The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The Mike Lowell vs. Gary Ferman Race For Charity
Mon, 24 Feb 2025
Dan cannot get over Greg Cote taking out Gary Ferman in the previous hour. What's the difference between a beat writer and a column writer? Would it hurt Greg more if you called him a "shitty reporter" or a "shitty writer?" Then, AROD is always in the middle of something, but this time, it leads the crew to a conversation about the most important athletes from South Florida. Mike Lowell? Frank Gore? Udonis Haslem? Plus, Greg Cote has a theory about why the Yankees finally changed their facial hair policy, and Billy Gil was well-informed while simultaneously chaotic on the FIU Panthers baseball broadcast over the weekend. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: Why did Greg Cote criticize Gary Ferman?
I am legitimately surprised that Greg Cody, and I'm sorry to belabor this, has taken out Gary Furman. I know we've spent too much time on it. I just, I'm, I am, I have been knocked over by a South Florida legend being less than respectful to somebody else who is another South Florida media legend.
And I happen to really admire in this business, in this town, the survivors, the people who could get to the very end of their careers, outlasting their businesses by evolving.
Greg, what do you think the perception of you is amongst the writers? Because you seem to not have a very favorable one of many of the writers. And I'm wondering if this is just like a writer thing or if it's like a uniquely you thing, like you have problems with the Furmans, the Hydes of the world.
Is this just a normal thing amongst all of you, disliking each other, but also saying you respect each other? Or are you the one that has a problem with everyone?
Billy, I don't know where that's coming from. Dave Hyde and I are good friends. Did he come to your 70th? He was invited and couldn't make it, and he told me why. But he was invited, and I think he's a wonderful columnist. I think he's really, really good.
Dave Hyde's not a good representation. What are you accusing Greg Cody of here?
I'm not accusing anyone of anything. I'm just asking the situation, because I think...
You don't know whether Greg Cody is liked by his colleagues. I don't know whether he is either.
No, I'm wondering if they would say the same thing about you and this is just kind of how you guys hang out. You know what I mean?
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Chapter 2: What is the difference between a beat writer and a columnist?
Who's got touch? I think... I think it's the thing he admires most. I'm theorizing on his behalf, but I think that's probably one of the things that he does because he really loves the craft of writing. Chris, what do you think is the worst insult you can give your father if you're writing him a nasty letter at the Herald the way that people used to do?
Like, what do you think is the single worst insult that you could give your father that would hurt him the most?
Doesn't show up to the games. Lazy. Lazy? Yeah.
That's not your opinion. No. How would you hurt your dad?
Yeah, I would think, oh, we see him at opening day in the playoffs. That's the only time Greg shows up.
That's fair. That's a fair criticism. You haven't been to the Fronton since you almost died. That's fair.
That's by choice.
I don't want to matter.
For me, I don't like that.
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Chapter 3: How do South Florida athletes rank in significance?
You can make the argument and not get a lot of rebuttal that A-Rod is the biggest and most important athlete in the history of South Florida. Like, And, you know, relevant since he was 17 years old and still climbing into ownership in power brokering ways because he profited, made a ton of money and cheated and resurrected himself after the cheating, which is just nuts to me.
You're talking about like from South Florida. Yeah, like homegrown. Homegrown.
Yeah, I'm just talking about most relevant athletes in the history of this market.
Dwayne Wade, duh.
If you put at the... Oh, but Dwayne Wade was... We raised him. Well, A-Rod hadn't played.
This is home. He'd never leave. He played down here, so... It matters that you're from here, does it not? Yes. Yeah, yeah, it matters. It doesn't matter as much, though, as playing for a team down here, right?
Yeah, like if we raised someone and all their playing was in high school and then they did all of their winning elsewhere, who cares?
I wouldn't say who cares, but to Billy's point, that's why I put a little asterisk by calling him the most influential.
Wait a minute. What's the asterisk that you're doing? Because by your standard, then Mike Lowell would be more relevant locally because he went from somebody who won a championship here. Right.
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Chapter 4: What is Greg Cote's theory on the Yankees' facial hair policy?
For the New York Yankees, for Jeff Passan to write a long story this weekend, because only the most important stories that are culture shifting get the Jeff Passan treatment. For Jeff Passan to write a long story about how monumental it is that 50 years after Steinbrenner implemented, the New York Yankees are now willing to allow their players to wear only a well-groomed beard.
And this being some sort of victory for America progress that the New York Yankees are embracing facial hair is one of the comically ridiculous, wonderful stories I've ever seen reported on a weekend in sports.
Dan, take the victories when you can get them. All right. This is progress. Udonis Haslam.
Yes. Greg, don't get distracted by the fact that Billy's doing his own show there. Just go ahead and refer to whatever it is that I was talking about.
That was a good comment.
Don't get distracted by Billy purposely trying to stop the show and extracts that way.
No, he's right about UD. Thank you. It's huge news mainly because it's the New York Yankees and because the rule, the no beard rule, was so archaic. It's nice to see the Yankees step gingerly into the 21st century because the old rule was straight out of 1956. It's ridiculous.
And I think what's happening here is the Yankees realize that in an age where the coveted free agent is getting a couple of $500 million offers, maybe the tiebreaker on that offer is going to be, you know what? I've had a beard my whole life. I ain't shaving a beard.
I don't think there's a person that's turned down $200 million for the Yankees over facial hair yet.
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Chapter 5: Why is A-Rod still relevant in sports news?
We were in the second inning when I said I don't think we're going to get to nine because, you know, we're already close to 40 pitches. And I think there's more of a buildup to that, but it's fine. Yeah, you know, second inning, four strikeouts. I said nine is going to be impossible, but no, it wasn't.
You're there for that kind of expertise, right?
IRL wasn't entirely discussed. They just said, would you like to call some games? And I said yes, so I assume it was for my expertise, not for silliness like what you're about to hear.
It's his birthday on Wednesday. You guys wish him a happy birthday? I did. Good for you. See? It's a real friend. Of course. Not like you, Zach. Do you know who his favorite artist is? I do not. Do you know who his favorite artist is? I don't. Picasso. Picasso. That seems like just something you say. Yeah.
I don't, I mean.
That's kind of difficult to get wrong.
Here I am thinking you were going to say a music.
Like Drake or like Future. I said, all right. No. What other information did they give you?
He loves a good burger. I'll tell you that right now. Loves a good burger.
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Chapter 6: What are some notable feuds involving Mike Lowell?
Did you enjoy yourself? Were you nervous? Working with new people, what's the worst part of it? Working with new people or collaborating with new people or just doing something for the first time?
Um... A little bit of all of it. It's difficult to build a rapport with people that you haven't worked with before. So hopefully the next one goes a little better than the last one. And that's just the goal. Just keep it moving. Keep it talking baseball. Keep it about the players and the game. And that's it. Billy, I have some advice for you.
Go watch the Alex Solana broadcast. Those are so much better. Just take some notes from Alex and then just redo it on your end. Because he comes prepared. He comes ready to go. He's got his hands going. And Billy, you've got to bring in a Picasso. After the media stuff is done, what are you going to do? The Picasso note is a good one. What is that? Solana? Yeah, what is this exactly?
What's happening? I just saw his broadcast very professionally. Really, you watched the entire broadcast? He came in a suit? You didn't show up in a suit?
I don't know what he wanted a shoot for. He wasn't on camera, so going in a suit is just... I don't care what he came in. Yeah. What is this business that we're doing now? I can't believe Tony took you out with Solana.
I can't believe he just did that. That is the bravest thing Tony has ever done.
You're not going to turn this broadcast team against each other. I'm going to tell you that right now. There may be a number of us, but we're strong. We're Panther strong, and we're not going to be broken apart by the likes of you who went to the school and was running around with a UM whatever.
Confirmed. Pause up.
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