
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
Mon, 27 Jan 2025
Do we need a Frankie Luvu rule to eliminate the Tush Push after the shenanigans we saw in yesterday's NFC Championship Game between the Philadelphia Eagles and Washington Commanders? Do we enjoy watching teams fight for a yard in rugby scrums in the biggest games of the season? Where do the Buffalo Bills go from here after losing for a fourth time to the Kansas City Chiefs in the Playoffs? Mike Ryan thinks that they need to make a drastic change, similar to the Florida Panthers trading for Matthew Tkachuk or the Boston Celtics trading Marcus Smart, in order to finally get over the hump. Stugotz wonders whether the drastic change needs to be firing Sean McDermott for Bill Belichick. Then the crew takes it even further and wonders if the Bills should just trade Josh Allen. Plus, we revisit Papi killing Fred Dreyer on last night's watchalong in hilarious fashion. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Are the rest of you supporting some sort of movement that calls it the Frankie Lou Vu rule of just keep at the goal line, jumping over the tush push or trying to get an offsides call because you're trying to perfectly time? The other team getting an inch in a rugby scrum. I said this last night, Stugatz, and I do think it's really dumb.
There are 11 minutes of actual action in a three-hour football game. But the action is great. I know, but so much of the 11 minutes is let's try and get this push on a rugby scrum on second and one, on third and inch. Let's do this two or three times and just let clock run out because all we're doing is let's just have all the fat guys push in this direction and see if we can get half a yard.
Yeah, that's why I'm a little confused by it because you always speak to the gladiator spectacle of football and the gridiron. You're, you know, a cyclone of menace and horror. You're so good with words and there is nothing more true. about that than a short yardage situation where it's will against will, mano a mano.
You like watching that? You like watching fourth and short for an inch?
On Championship Sunday, every single short yardage situation was captivating. Because these... believed that the team could actually stop it. In the regular season, bodies don't find the willpower on the opposite side to put up a fight.
Now, Washington was doing very creative things, trying to time the snap down, and it was very clearly getting to Philadelphia, so much so that they switched up the cadence, which led to hilarity, basically a 15-minute down.
The thing is, though, Mike, I'm watching The Will and The Gladiator and all of that stuff, and then it's an old guy deciding he's just going to put the ball wherever he thinks it should have gone.
We'll fix that part.
We will?
Yeah, I do think so.
I think in our lifetimes we're going to fix that. How about Josh Allen? Is he still going to be around? He won't be in his prime. No.
Do you feel bad for him today? Because he played well enough to win the game as he has. He's lost four times to them, and his statistics are better than they are when he's four and one or three and one against them in the regular season. Yeah, I'm sick for him.
I'm sick for him because, like I said, he'd be Mahomes. It's not a championship. It's not a Super Bowl appearance. And it's kind of like Dan Marino in that everyone realizes this guy's the frigging man. He's awesome. He's not the problem. It's everything else. And everything else is largely somebody else. One individual that is just a little bit better at it. Just a little bit more clutch.
Even though he's been pretty damn clutch and he's made the throws, his surrounding cast hasn't been as clutch.
I can't tell you what a tribute and honor it is that the Buffalo Bills have somebody who is very clearly and obviously the MVP of the league. And the strategy is still let me hand the ball off to James Cook here because I don't want that other quarterback to be having the ball too much. You want McDermott fired, right? Didn't you come in here today with McDermott bye-bye?
I mean, he has this all-time talented quarterback, and he's been unable to get them a Super Bowl. And in that spot, again, where it's fourth and inches and you're up a point and you're trying to close out the Chiefs on the road to finally get yourself to a Super Bowl, you don't realize how big that play call is. You don't realize the size of the moment there.
Like, Dan, you can't just run the same play you just ran. You can't do it. There's too much at risk there. And so I think Belichick should take over that job. I think there's still a chance for Belichick to win this battle against Brady. If he goes to Buffalo, okay, and he is the guy that gets Josh Allen over the hump past Kansas City to the Super Bowl and then wins it, forget it. He wins.
I was really following the take, and I really liked it before we went off into crazy land with Belichick. Really?
the mcdermott thing like like it is something that you have to consider no we've seen sports teams realize pretty emphatically like we're just not good enough what are we gonna do to drastically change this situation all buffalo did in its off season to drastically change its situation was get rid of offensive talent like there are recent examples grady little being you know
not brought back Paul Maurice being in a Matthew Kachuk trade for the Florida Panthers because they realize in a small window like we're never going to get past those guys unless we do something drastic Buffalo is at that point where they have to do something drastic are they Because they keep doing the same thing. What is the very definition of insanity?
Are they, though? Because you guys are telling me, a team I know to be good, you're telling me that I need to do something drastic about the fact that they lost by three points in a game where the ball wasn't spotted correctly. They need to do something drastic when Kincaid doesn't catch a ball that he needs to catch.
Yes, but I would say that... Losing four times in a row to one quarterback is drastic. We've never seen it.
But they also have beaten him in the regular season. I think that's what's so frustrating. It's not like he's 0-8 against Patrick Mahomes. It's like they've won in the regular season. In the playoffs, they can't. The playoffs! That's why they should hire Spags. Cut them off at the knees and then you have Spags. Win-win for everyone.
You say do something drastic, but I thought getting rid of Stephon Diggs was doing something drastic.
It wasn't enough. But in the wrong direction. We want drastic addition, not drastic subtraction, but still somehow they ended up in virtually the same spot.
I would say that it helps to have Patrick Mahomes because I'm watching an interview with DeAndre Hopkins playing in his first Super Bowl, and I'm like, what's the difference at this point between DeAndre Hopkins and Amari Cooper? What's the difference between those two people? Because the Bills got Josh Allen something like what the Chiefs got.
I would say I'd rather have Amari Cooper right now than DeAndre Hopkins. Nobody wanted DeAndre Hopkins the last couple of years.
Well, including the Chiefs the last couple of weeks. They haven't thrown the ball like two times. Right. He's just an extra weapon in case. He's there for funsies, honestly. He's there for a ring. If they want to shake things up a little bit, if they get a lot of injuries, they have DeAndre Hopkins. But yesterday, Travis Kelsey had four targets. They're not even using all the weapons they have.
That's how many weapons they have on that team.
I just don't understand where the Bills go when they have their postseason meeting and they all get together and their board of directors try to figure out, all right, what went wrong? The same thing went wrong again. Run it back? Like, extend our record of being the only team to lose to this team this many times consecutively and just hope that the math will work out for us in the postseason?
At a certain point, you have to try to take control of your own destiny and do something about it. So at least you can lay your head down at night and say, well, I tried something new this time.
They should honestly probably bolster their defense, which is not what people want to hear or see for Josh Allen.
It doesn't help that one of their corners went out with a concussion and then they were not able to play man coverage for the rest of the game.
But that is McDermott's specialty is defense, and their defense is lousy.
running interference so that Whoever was coverage, the linebacker just had no chance to do anything with what that play was. If you're playing with your backups, if they've had secondary issues all year, if the Lions season falls apart because, God, look what happened to their defense. Everyone's injured.
I'm asking when they're that close and it's a spot that's the difference, what's the drastic thing you would like them to do? You say Stephon Diggs, getting rid of him is in the wrong direction. You want them to trade for a number one who is better than Shakir? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Certainly. That would help. I would. Maybe let's put some shoes on.
They're not having any problem with offense. They're not having problems with offense. They're fine on offense. They scored 28 points every time they play the Chiefs. Josh Allen was a little YOLO-y in the first quarter.
Yeah.
Agreed? Old Josh was back yesterday early on.
He fixed it, I guess.
The answer was do more. Do something different. Change it up. Don't have the talent overall go down in one offseason when you're trying to chase this team like it did.
You think Matt Collins leaves the stadium in that outfit? Or he had a backup? He has to have a backup. Because he looked ridiculous. He did.
You can't do your postgame after that game wearing that outfit. That's not something that you can do. That catch he made, that game was a lot of fun. And I believe that whatever disappointment there is about that game today is only because people have some Chiefs fatigue that I'm hearing articulated.
more than I'm used to hearing winners get pulled down, even though we did plenty of this with the Patriots.
So what should the Bills do, Dan?
I just don't think they have to do anything drastic. I think they're pretty close. I think they're obviously a good team, indisputably a good team, and everyone's losing to Mahomes. There aren't front office moves that can be made by anybody that's topping Mahomes the last three years.
I also want to give credit to Kansas City as we just like try to wonder aloud. We always give them credit.
We don't need to give them more credit.
We just picked apart a true point that, you know, top corner was out injured. Let's not omit the times that Patrick Mahomes had a really bad ankle and he still found a way to not only beat them, but beat Philadelphia in a Super Bowl. Let's not forget the time that he got knocked out of a divisional round game against Cleveland and Chad Henney had to make the plays down the stretch.
They also got the benefit of a targeting penalty that didn't go against them. There should have been a touchdown that might have changed the result of that game.
But to Dan's point, if they did do nothing, it would be defensible because they were that fourth down call away from... being like scoring in the game and winning the game. And that was a very bad call. I thought, I thought he had the first down pretty obviously. And then you're talking about a completely different outcome in this game. And you're like, wow, what a great job they've done.
Finally getting over the hump.
You could, you could argue doing, doing nothing and just hoping that your, your luck changes is, is a move, is a calculated risk. But I would say that these are desperate times now for Buffalo. You look at the playing style of your quarterback. You look at all the comps. He's constantly compared to Cam Newton. A guy with that big of a frame that leans so much on his athleticism.
Granted, he can throw the ball, but we're nearing the end of the window where we can count on that same sort of physical advantage for him. So if these are indeed desperate times, there's a cliche about that and what it calls for.
Billy was saying earlier that the Chiefs have a whole lot of weapons, and I don't think they do. I think their skill guys are worse. Among the last four teams, I didn't like their skill guys. Kelsey, in this state...
Well, he was great a week ago.
Understood. But in this state, over whatever have been the last 10 games of Kelsey, at some point, that body is going to break down with that kind of wear and tear. And so he can do it occasionally, 117 of their 177 passing yards. But consistently over the last 10 games, he has not done it. And there are other skilled guys?
Meh. But it doesn't matter. They have so many options that they're serviceable enough for this system, where Juju Smith-Schuster gets 60 yards in an AFC championship game.
Juju Smith-Schuster was their second leading receiver in the Super Bowl behind Travis Kelsey two years ago.
Hollywood Brown is there getting more receptions and more targets than Travis Kelsey. DeAndre Hopkins is on the team. He'd probably be like a two or three on most teams. He gets one reception every year.
I've been saying this since Friday, and I'm not real sure why it is that people aren't just the numbers of this are eluding people. Give me all of their big plays this season.
Like, yes, they're great at 17 play drives and they're great at converting third and fives, but they are no longer the offense of like, I'm watching this team and they can beat me at any point because anyone is going 40 yards or 50 yards on a play. They don't have that player. Worthy's not that player. He's super fast. He's done that once or twice this season.
They don't have what Philadelphia has, which your 17 play drive, here's a one play drive. But who cares? Here on the first
play of the game they're winning exactly they lost one actual game this year the last game of the regular season didn't count they didn't have any other players playing the only game they lost was to the bills this year so like you might not like how they're doing it but they're doing it more dominant than they have in other seasons just a different style they've adapted you say who cares i'm simply objecting to you telling me how much talent the chiefs have it's how much talent the chiefs have at quarterback
On offense. Well, and on defense. On offense. On offense. It's how much talent the Chiefs have at quarterback. That was their first 30-point game of the entire season. Please look up for me all the other teams that haven't had a 31-point game this season. They're all bad.
They're all bad teams. The good teams don't get away with this.
There is no such thing. But we're arguing for style points, and that determines what a good team is. The Dolphins scored 70 points in a game last year, and they didn't do shit. So what are we actually arguing here?
I'm arguing what you're telling me, that their skill guys are that great. They have so many weapons.
No, they have enough weapons. They have a depth of weapons. They don't have superstars, but they have enough serviceable pieces that they get the job done with.
Understood, but you're telling me that Shakir's not a good enough number one receiver, that the Bills need to get Josh Allen more help, and what I'm telling you is if they gave him the Chiefs' help, you'd be like, eh.
Here's the list of teams, Dan. The list of teams that did not score more than 30 points in a game. The New York Giants, the Las Vegas Raiders, the New England Patriots, the New York Jets, and the Kansas City Chiefs. One of these things is not like the other.
I get that Patrick Mahomes is now doing the thing that the Patriots did, which is it doesn't actually matter what the pieces are. That they can just go get whatever.
We know we could do it the other way. We've seen him do it with Tariq Hill. So we know he has that in him, and now he's doing it a different way. As Billy said, that team in general is kind of rolling with whatever they have to do to win football games. And so now it's Run and play defense.
But Mike is making drastic changes to a team that's 17-3 in the postseason with Mahomes.
But the strategy you want is just hope the Chiefs fall apart. And then you can get past them eventually.
No, it's not the strategy. What I'm saying is everyone in that sport is strategizing to beat their know-how-to-win. And nobody can do it, whatever their strategies are. You're asking me for a strategy that doesn't exist. Like, they have something at quarterback that no one else has.
But two quarterbacks have done it. Joe Burrow did it. Tom Brady did it. Two quarterbacks have been able to beat them in the postseason.
It doesn't mean that they don't lose. I'm saying that these two teams look the same to me. Right. And one of them, you all know, has a quarterback who's going to win at the end, and the other one has a history of losing that goes back 40 years.
I just hope that they're thinking about it as much as we are. Yeah. If the bold chase, and I don't think it's not exactly not bold of them to decide, let's keep this unit together. I actually think that's kind of brave because four years in that sport is a very long time. Four years being told you're not good enough by the same team, losing pretty much the same way in the postseason.
I mean, that would wear on you. And I just hope that it's not just assumed, yeah, let's just run it back. Let's bring everybody back. We'll finally get these guys because you're already in uncharted territory in terms of not being able to get those guys.
Belichick would definitely take that job. I mean, he would.
Dan, we made a prediction on God Bless Football that Stephon Diggs is going to be on the Chiefs in two seasons.
The problem and the argument that I would try to make on your behalf of they have to change something is that's as well as a football team can ever protect the football for an entire season. And they still lost. Like they were playing a fairly conservative style for Josh Allen. That's grading on a curve, obviously. But it was all minimized mistakes.
And you can't account for the mistake that the line judge is going to make when he runs in on fourth and one and he spots the ball in the in the wrong spot. Like there's just no there's no accounting for that. You guys want me to put some out.
The chief still would have won the game.
I mean, I mean, that's pretty much even if I got it right. That's pretty much where we are. with the Chiefs where if they indeed lose this game in the future, we will expect them to win it the next day somehow because the league's overturned it or something has happened the following day that changes the result we just saw because they're in this rarefied air of they're always going to win.
We know they're going to win. We fear they're going to win. On third and nine, of course, they're going to convert to end the game so we don't get to see Josh Allen again. The Bills should hire Spaggs.
Wow, that's a great idea. That is a phenomenal idea. That is such a good idea by you.
I can't believe no one else had that. I can't believe that you're the first person I've ever heard argue that Spag's addition by subtraction.
Because he comes in, he knows the Chiefs. You see the game a different way, my friend. That was a blitz against Patrick Mahomes. See how he handles that situation at the end of the game. I'm honored to share this studio space with you.
You're brilliant. I've underestimated your brilliance. You know what? I changed my mind. I'm not wrong about the point spread, but I am wrong about saying that the Bills don't have to make drastic changes. They have to go with Chris Cody's brilliant pioneering idea of higher spags.
The point is profound because he has a cock.
I think that could have gone without saying.
Chris or spags? It's up to two and a half.
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Don Levitard. Bob Kraft. The only reason your organization is good is because of Bill Belichick. Stugatz. Belichick has done nothing since Brady left. He made the playoffs once. I think at the very least, he should not be a first ballot Hall of Famer. They should make him wait like 10 years to get it. He's an overrated coach.
This is the Don Levitard Show with the Stugatz. Let me play some sound here.
Just give it a couple of days. Let me play some sound here from last night. My father, I learned this on air with everyone else. He's been saying a version of this story for several years, and it turns out that there's a plot twist at the end. But let's hear, Papi was bringing it last night. He was eating cashews by the shovel full. That's what he does, yeah.
And he was just filled with a lot of energy, and so he decided to talk for some reason about former Rams defensive end Fred Dreyer.
Oh.
Can you tell us? I want me to hear the story that you're always telling people about Fred Dreyer, the old Rams defensive end.
Fred Dreyer. Oh, that guy. Oh, I tell you one thing. I was impressed. The guy used to play for what was it, the Rams? Was it defensive end or – And offensive, yeah. And after his football career was over, he went on TV and he went into the business of selling salmons. I guess he had a salmon product, a line of whatever. But the guy used to eat salmon. That's all the guy ate. And he was...
He was in real good shape. His cholesterol level was in tip-top condition. And he was, you know, all his vital signs, they were right on. And I said, oh, my God, this guy is going to live forever. And he used to go on TV, on national TV and shows and advertising products, you know. And one day I get up in the morning and I look at the news and the guy dropped dead.
I said, how the hell this guy could drop dead? You know, he's such a healthy nut. You know, well, that happened. So I stopped eating salmon. That's it. I don't need salmon anymore. Let's clip that.
Get that out of here. Let's push that clip out, too.
Did anyone kill Fred Dreyer? My father did. He's still with us.
Over years, right? Dan, this is a story he's told over decades.
Does your dad have Venmo? Is Fred Dreyer still with us? 78 years old. Spring chicken. Wait a minute.
Let's go live to my father right now and get whatever information. He's going to be stunned by this. Poppy, can you hear me out there? He's fiddling with his microphone. Someone help him, guys. There's just an on and an off, Papi. Look at everyone scurrying. Come on, GQ. A team of people are running toward the Pat Riley statue. Thanks for helping, Taylor.
Papi, I'm being told that Fred Dreyer's still alive.
No, I don't believe that. My source told me he dropped dead a number of years ago. Check it out good. Dad. Check it good, guys.
Dad, you've been saying for years that Fred Dreyer dropped dead jogging after eating some salmon, that he had a bad ticker, and it's not true.
He had a bad ticker, okay? You cannot blame it on the salmon. That was bad salmon. That was a bad ticker.
Poppy, we're having salmon for dinner now, it looks like. Dad.
No, I stay away from Tom. No, it's back on the menu.
Dad, he's not dead. Dad, you've been saying for years that Fred Dreyer is dead.
Google the guy. You Google the guy. You will see what happens when you Google the guy.
Google him good.
Mike has said that the Chiefs can't keep getting away with this. And the thing I want to ask you guys is, can CBS keep getting away with this? What I'm about to say, which is they promoted yesterday Matlock with Kathy Bates as America's new favorite show. And I just don't believe that's true.
I believe that it might be popular and that it might be good, but I believe that a lot of people can claim to be America's new favorite show and there's no way to quantify. Well, there are ways to quantify that, but ratings are so difficult these days that 10 people can make that claim. Is Matlock indeed that popular?
I think it probably does track, it probably does fit that criteria until FBI colon CIA comes out. So they're just trying to say it while they can.
Yeah, you can say things like fastest growing show where you can play with the math a little bit. But to call yourself America's new favorite show, you need to back that claim up.
It is the second most watched entertainment show on broadcast TV. So what's first? Probably an older show.
So you can claim that.
CBS always does. CBS does that, and it's always quantifiable because the ratings bear it out.
One of the things they were also advertising is just simply a show called Ghosts. Just Ghosts.
What's that about?
Sam Darnold? Play that sound again of Sam Darnold and the announcers so we can ask Dugatz why he thought London Fletcher was calling a Vikings-Rams game in Arizona. He's holding it too long!
Throw it, man!
That didn't sound like a linebacker.
I was trying to make sure you were paying attention. You weren't.
Yes, thank you. You got me. Speaking of television, I'm curious what you guys make of, in 2024, the Tom Brady roast was the most watched thing on Netflix of any kind. Netflix's stock is surging. The last quarter, they made a ton of money, and it's at least in part because NFL, Tyson, Tom Brady roast. They are getting in the game with so much money.
WWE as well.
That they're looking to change. They've been looking to change television and make Matlock and America's favorite new show be a thing of the past. That is one hell of a resurgence from showbiz. sharing passwords and some of the problems that they were dealing with during the pandemic.
Netflix having that kind of year where the stock is surging with the last quarter that was record-breaking because of live sports is super interesting.
Imagine that. There were Cachanels left and right doing the same thing over and over again, and they weren't getting the results, and they had to do something different.
drastic so do you guys have a suggestion on what this drastic thing is like i like that i like that replacing the head coach bags replacing a head coach who's won 70 of his 80 of his games dan it's a guy they fired his defensive coordinator they got rid of his offensive coordinator like what's next it's got to be him right and if bill belichick is out there and i do believe this is a job he would leave north carolina for who wouldn't the two things because one of them is plausible and
And the other one is a hot take.
I'm not certain, Mike. No, it's not a hot take. I'm not certain. Like, I'm not certain Belichick would pass up on the opportunity, if offered to him, to coach Josh Allen.
It's just two separate conversations. You don't need to put them together.
You will not find another team, I do not believe, that has what Buffalo and Josh Allen have, which is they keep winning a playoff game every year, but they never get to the Super Bowl. It's crazy. That's not something that you see a lot of.
And so what Stugatz is saying there is, I'm guessing that you're firing a coach who would have more one-loss success than any coach who would usually get fired in any situation. And he's got to have the highest winning percentage in Bill's history over even Marv Levy, given how much he's won in Buffalo, yeah?
It's kind of similar to Marty Schottenheimer, where he kept getting, you know, making playoff runs with the Chargers, but could never get to the Super Bowl. And eventually, and I think it was after an AFC championship game in which they lost, eventually they fired him.
Yeah, well, they hired Steve Belichick. They went 15-1 too, but Marty Schottenheimer wasn't running into the same one problem at quarterback every year in Kansas City.
Wait, hold on a second. So if Bill Belichick leaves North Carolina like Stu Gatz is reporting he's going to do to go to Buffalo, is Steve the head coach already? At Carolina. Yeah, because wasn't that set up for him to take over when Bill was done? If Bill never coaches a game, does Steve still get the gig immediately?
Let me rummage under my desk. Hang on.
Can you do me the favor, Chris Cody, of telling me what McDermott's winning percentage is in Buffalo?
Regular season, 656. Mark Levy, 615. What did I say? Oh, my bad. It's Marv. Marv, yeah. In the playoffs. Don't do that one. Marv Levy, yeah, over 500. McDermott, seven and seven in the playoffs.
Put it on the poll, please, Juju. Are we still making Marvs at Levitard Show? It's been a while, it feels like. Marvins, naming a baby Marvin, calling a baby Marvin doesn't feel quite right. Let's see what we have under Mike Bryan's desk here. Oh. Oh, boy.
We have a question for you.
What's the question?
Yeah, someone has to ask him something.
Yeah, the coach I'm waiting.
If Belichick leaves now, does Steve Belichick automatically get the Carolina job?
I think the implication is Belichick has to retire. If he takes another job, Steve goes with him.
Really? Implication.
That's what he said. He's reporting an implication as our North Carolina insider. Legally binding. It seems flimsy. It doesn't seem terribly.
I don't think you would have given Feinbaum that answer.
It doesn't seem very, it doesn't have a lot of nutrients, that particular answer. But it would make sense that Belichick would have to coach an actual game before his son gets handed the program.
Well, he signed the other day.
You should have held out. I understand that you guys can point out a number of legal discrepancies here. I'm going to go ahead and say. Let's do your own worst enemy here.
I'm not bringing it up. You're the first guy to the plausible take. Like, should they look at the head coach thing? And you're muddying the waters with this Belichick thing. Like, you have to. You have the good take.
I said Spags as well, but here's another take. Wow, Spags? We're getting dangerously close to Andy Reid being the guy they call the greatest coach in NFL history. Belichick may want to come back and stop that. I'm just saying. Just saying.
Marv Harrison Jr. Doesn't feel right.
Wow. No one else is saying anywhere in the American sports media that you fire the head coach who has a near 70 percent winning percentage because you need to get over the hump and do something drastic. And the drastic thing would be firing a coach with that kind of winning.
But no one thinks the winning percentage is because of him. is the biggest thing.
I'm never really impressed with him. His decision-making in some of these games has been hot and cold. I don't know, dude. Like I said, I hope they're having the conversation. And I hope it's not just like, yeah, we're going to run it back, right?
Running it back, right, looking to a room full of people that have experienced the first type of successive failure in NFL history, that seems insane to me.
So you say, though, that I'm never really impressed, and all I've been doing for two weeks is articulating some form at 56 years old, covering sports for a while, of just... complete confusion as to how that quarterback can be coached to never turn the ball over.
So you say you're not impressed, and I'm saying, good Lord, on his watch, Josh Allen went from someone I thought was terrible at quarterback to running a team that has fewer turnovers than any in the sport. And you're telling me, no, that linesman's got to call that differently, McDermott, unimpressed. And I'm like, okay, okay. And it's hard to get past my homes by a yard.
I think I know the answer to this, but when there is an important play that needs to be called for the Buffalo Bills. Most times, it's Josh do something, and the ball stays in Josh's hands. We know with Patrick Mahomes, even at this age, his go-to guy is Travis Kelsey. Now, I think possibly the go-to guy for Josh Allen right now is Khalil Shakir, but Patrick Mahomes' guy is an all-timer.
I feel like, yeah, no bad ideas. Tyreek Hill, T. Higgins, who's available? Who's unavailable? Let's get crazy. Let's throw everything for Justin Jefferson. Something crazy, something good, something game-changing.
All right, so there was an anonymous executive quoted as saying the Patriots are interested in a division trade for Tyreek Hill if Tyreek Hill is indeed available. You'd be welcoming, again, because you've got the same problem. You've got to go to Kansas City and beat Mahomes.
You'd be welcoming, again, what you did with Stephon Diggs, the drastic change after Stephon Diggs was, you know how we make Josh a better quarterback? We mix it up and give him no number one receivers. We give him a bunch of different options the way Mahomes has a bunch of different options, and we get him to play a more careful game. Now you're going back.
So we're doing what teams do all the time organizationally when they can't figure something out. We'll go from a coach who's tough to a coach who's a player's coach to back to a coach who's tough. So now we're going back to the number one Stefan Diggs disgruntled receiver who might be available.
You keep trying until you find a combination that works. Okay.
Okay, but Mahomes is the problem. It's not in your locker room. The problem is in another locker room. So you give up? You don't give up. You can keep changing. I just say tinkering versus drastic. I say they're obviously close. Like they're indisputably right there. And you're telling me they need another number one receiver. I'm like, okay, welcome Tyreek Hill in there.
Make sure he doesn't get 1,000 yards. See how that goes.
I understand mentioning Tyreek Hill as a possible solution is inflammatory, and you've done well to seize on that. But I'm saying we're close. We're right there. It's something that that franchise has famously dealt with its entire history and what it's known for. And I would say they need to have a conversation, ownership on down, buck stops here.
What can we do to make sure we're not even getting a shittier version of what we got in the early 90s?
You're right about this because the Heat were close and then they weren't. And it happened while we were watching them be close. Sometimes that's not quite enough. You need something else to put you over the top. But it's really difficult to do what the Panthers did. What the Celtics did. Make that move. The Celtics did what it is that you had to do, and it was unpopular. I just don't know.
When you say drastic change, you sort of have to tell me what it is, because firing a coach with that winning percentage would be drastic.
Why are we crazy for thinking they should think about changing the coach or get him more offensive weapons? They need to do something.
Well, they need someone on defense, like Max Crosby would be a guy.
They have to pay Rousseau, who might be in the conversation for highest paid guy on the defensive line in the league now.
Miami guy.
What I would give to be as close as the Bills.
Oh, yeah, just once. It's terrible.
This was the Steelers' experience. And in my head, I was like, well, as soon as Tom Brady retires, it's going to be wide open. Any team can win the AFC when that happens. When the Patriots' dynasty ends, who knows? We'll have the Texans in a Super Bowl. The Steelers will win another Super Bowl. I don't know.
the limit is endless it's no it's easy to say we're right there because buffalo's not alone in saying we're right there hell a team that missed the playoffs in cincinnati can argue and they've actually had success in the postseason against kansas city and baltimore we're right there baltimore we're right there you got to keep those guys away because the gulf between those teams is shrinking and you have to chase down the greatest of all time potentially
You trade Tyreek Hill, right?
Given the option, you trade Tyreek Hill today. I think it's time to get away from that.
No, that wouldn't even be the target. I'm just throwing names out there.
The Dolphins. Take one Tyreek Hill, you're going to have him, right? It seems like it's a problem. The Buffalo, though? Better to early than too late with him, right? I mean, it's already at too late. I know, but that's why you've got to do it now before it's really too late. Because now you're like, no, no, no, the wrist thing. No, no, he had a knee thing. Knee procedure.
What do you want from Mike Evans? He's going to be back next year.
What can I give you from Mike Evans?
Let's make a deal. Mike Evans. Mike Evans. That's an interesting piece, Dan, Mike Evans.
Yeah, sure. Everybody would want him.
Thank you for your contribution.
Bill, Mike Evans.
Maybe the quarterback's a problem. Let's trade Josh Allen.
Ooh, a king's ransom you can get for Josh Allen. That's drastic. That's drastic. No one was giving you drastic suggestions. That's drastic, Dan.
There are no bad ideas here. What I'm saying is what cannot happen is everyone just hopping on the bus, having a team meeting, all right, we'll get them next year. That cannot happen.
Do you think that if the Bills called the Chiefs and said, we will trade you Josh Allen for Patrick Mahomes, the Chiefs would say no?
I 100% believe that.
You guys, the reason that is both a ridiculous thing to offer me today and also something that I think... is funny to look at that I think gets ignored. When you guys keep doing this, they need to do something. They need to do something. The way the culture of sports argument is that we find blame, criticize, and the next day is not about celebrating the winner. It's about blaming the loser.
I really think that it ignores the historic greatness of Patrick Mahomes that you guys keep telling me need to do something when it's what every franchise was saying when Michael Jordan played, and it's what every franchise was saying when Tom Brady played, and there's a new one here now. on need to do something, oh, can't do anything, we're going to lose every single time, no matter what we do.
Burrow for Alan? Ooh, Belichick?
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