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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

The Big Suey: Greg Cote Explains Journalism

Thu, 02 Jan 2025

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The madness continues as we barrel ever closer to Game 6 of the Stanley Cup Finals between the Florida Panthers and Edmonton Oilers. Zaslow has left and the dust is slowly settling on the feud between Mike Ryan and Greg Cote, but now Dan and Mike begin taking jabs at each other. It's a 12-round battle on the show today, only interrupted by Dan taking a detour to discuss the rumored details of Stephen A. Smith's contract offer from ESPN. Before we head into the battle of our lives tonight in Edmonton, Greg Cote makes sure to explain to the crew what journalism is. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What is the significance of the Stanley Cup Finals?

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42.597 - 63.169 Chris Cote

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Cuervo.

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Cuervo.

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Football season is here, and there is absolutely nothing better than game day. But it can be a little bit stressful. You're placing bets. You're setting fantasy lineups. You're figuring out the most comfortable position to sit on your couch for the next 12 hours. No one has time to think about this part. Cooking. Well, thanks to DoorDash, you don't have to worry about that.

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Chapter 2: What are the tensions among the podcast hosts?

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Welcome to the Big Suey, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there.

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That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar.

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pull a little palate cleanser here to separate us from the tension here. Like it's sort of audio sage. I want Chris Mad Dog Russo mispronouncing something. Do you have anywhere back there Mad Dog Russo trying to pronounce Condoleezza Rice?

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The four or five things that I picked up that were interesting that I relate to you. Number one, Condoleezza Rice, you know, formerly of the Bush administration.

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Thank you. I need a little sorbet here. I need something just to soften the mood. Zaslow has left in true disgust. He just stormed out of here. He hit the microphone as he left, like he punched the microphone as he left, and he took the chair with him, I'm assuming, to just throw it into the bay. He's had enough of Greg Cody. Greg Cody's been giggling to himself here. while coughing and giggling.

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You've been giggling throughout the break. Are you okay? Like, what's happening?

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Everything is great. I'm reveling in... You have bronchitis. Yeah, no, I don't feel great, but everything else is great. It's another day in paradise down here. And I'm reveling in the idea that I am having renewed appreciation for my perspective, for how I see sports in the overall. And I don't want to be... Zaslow and Mike Ryan about any team. I just don't want to be.

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Now, that doesn't mean that I'm not rooting for the best story that I want to write. And in this case, that is a Panthers-Stanley Cup.

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But that's you rooting because the best story, I can admit this as a Panthers fan, the best story for hockey would be McDavid coming back from down 3-0.

Chapter 3: How does Greg Cody define journalism?

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Jeremy pretends to be a journalist.

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I do pretend to be a journalist. Is Jeremy a journalist, Dad? It's complicated, right? No, no, no, Jeremy, I asked my dad. Look, he's paid to cover the heat, right? I am, and technically the Panthers and the Marlins. Okay, if you are paid to cover those teams— You don't want to call him a journalist, though.

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Well, what I'm saying is, if you're paid to cover those teams, you're paid to be pro those teams, right?

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It doesn't mean you can— Covering them for the regional broadcast, you're saying. Like, covering them for Valley Sports, where it is the home broadcast and that— crew, yeah, we are paid to have a bit of a slant toward the team that we're covering, just as, by the way, you are in your columns to an extent.

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You're rooting for the Panthers to win tonight because it supports a positive column. You're saying Jeremy's not a journalist?

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I'm saying... I wrote a column saying the Panthers need to make big changes, or the Heat need to make big changes because you're never going to win a championship if Jimmy Butler is your best player.

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Jeremy can't do that.

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He would not be able to say that. Well, I wouldn't do that because it's wrong, but that's a separate conversation. Fine. And I'm not saying all of my opinions are right, but I wrote that. You couldn't say that.

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You're saying he can't be critical of the team, therefore he can't be a journalist. He's not as objective as you are, who's been a homer about the Dolphins since 1972. Correct.

Chapter 4: What does Greg Cody think about fandom vs journalism?

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Those f**k yous cancel out, though.

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808.732 - 816.679 Chris Cote

Are you at multiple? No, he got six of them. I had a half dozen. I had a half dozen. And some dude that happened to be in the same restaurant as Dan is like, hey, I'm a big fan. I like you.

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No, he went out of his way to be like, send this to Mike Ryan. He asked that I personally deliver the message. So I really am just the messenger here.

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You know what I'm most frustrated about? Because if they lose this game, I'm going to have... Oh, Monday. Monday. not just a horrible weekend, but I'm going to have to spend a lot of money because tickets are sold out on the primary market, and I only have one place to turn to, Dan, the Game Time app.

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The Game Time app, which honestly, there should be a loyalty rewards program for how much I've been on there throughout the Stanley Cup playoffs. And I'm going to see the Red Hot Chili Peppers on Sunday. Thanks so much, Game Time app. That could be a very depressing one, and I could really read into the lyrics of Under the Bridge.

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Or we can just talk about California the entire time celebrating a title. Your move, Florida Panthers, today. But if you're in the Edmonton area, or if you're hoping for a game seven just so you can witness someone lift the cup, go to the Game Time app. Download it. Create an account. Use the code DAN. That is D-A-N for 2020. $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Last minute tickets.

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Lowest price. Guaranteed. You get to see what your seat looks like from there. And amazing customer service. If you, for whatever reason, find a better deal out there on the market, Game Time will match it up to 110%. And it's easy to get them matching it. Thank you so much, Game Time, for your support.

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In keeping with the guarantee that I am giving you that the Panthers will win this cup they deserve in a sport that this year was magnificent because of how good all the teams were slaying each other. The Panthers will win the title. One of the next two games in overtime. I'm sorry to do that to you. I'm sorry to do that to you.

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But these games are going to be... Look, Messier said before game five, he's like, you're going to see the single best

Chapter 5: What are the implications of being a sports journalist?

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You don't have to tell me the role I play. this studio and his hand in it okay my Greg Cody show merch store is not selling McOval rated t-shirts and capitalizing on it they won the next three games after we did that that can't be blamed as a jinx they want they went up three

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hold on let my book look he's trying to stop you because you're getting there on your own greg you're getting there on your own your shop didn't try to sell it your shop didn't try to capitalize on your take which you know the hockey media's poked holes in which is fine whatever you've defended yourself but you're not trying to monetize it he is he's the one trying to put your face on billboards not you you what what is your opinion what is your honest opinion of these billboards

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What is your honest opinion? My honest opinion is that they should not be put up until the Panthers win the Stanley Cup.

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1124.962 - 1127.083 Mike

Same. Same. That's where my passion comes.

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I said that last Tuesday.

1128.564 - 1130.165 Mike

And he's not listening to you, bud.

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No, because the national audience wants me to put them up. It's his show.

1134.347 - 1152.857 Chris Cote

The national audience wants me to put them up. But South Florida, and why people are telling me to relay FUs to you, is you've never done this. You've never made us a joke. It's not just like the jinxing stuff. You're actively trying to embarrass people that like this franchise. No, I'm not. Yes, you are. No, I am not. Because you cannot... Okay.

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I'm okay with taking us being the subject of the joke. Egg on the face.

Chapter 6: How do personal biases affect sports reporting?

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And so you ended up with egg on your face. Just off the top of my head. I'd rather have rotten vegetables than egg throw at me, personally.

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Not me.

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At least the egg shatters.

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A zucchini would hurt. Right?

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But it's like... Yeah, it's still solid.

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I feel like if it's rotten, it's softened a little. It is softened. Softened, but still a solid object. The egg is just like, it's yucky, it's going to hurt.

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If it's a rotten avocado, it's going to be pretty soft.

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But there's a pit. Yeah, but it's got a pit in it. Yeah, but you're not going to feel the pit. Oh, I think you would if it's soft.

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What would be the vegetable, the rotten vegetable? Well, the egg's not a vegetable, so it's rotten eggs and rotten vegetables. The eggs are thrown in as a protein.

Chapter 7: What role does humor play in sports commentary?

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A lot more work that goes into it.

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And the fourth one, like our thing is worth what Stephen A. Smith is asking for.

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I think he deserves it.

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It's a ridiculous thing to say.

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1549.644 - 1567.537 Chris Cote

It is because he's the entirety of that network. Their entire daytime programming strategy is around him. Yeah, you're right. This is another one of your diversionary tactics, but game on. I got you. Yeah, you got me. I got you. But he is the straw that serves their drink. He sets a table for all the rights that they have unless it's the Stanley Cup.

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So what I would do if I'm ESPN is I would pay him $10 million for every sport he can actually cover because the daytime programming on a game that they have, their coverage was Mike Greenberg asking Udonis Haslam what he thought about tonight. This country is headed in to a World Cup in 2026. What the f*** do you think is going to be happening on that show?

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What do you think is going to be happening on that show? Because it's more likely to be Dak Prescott than it is to be about the World Cup. That show is limited. It is very limited. And it does what it's limited at exceptionally well. The greatest daytime sports show ever. Because he is the greatest sports talent. ever. But it is very frustrating.

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And it works against ESPN's overall best interests. I understand college football makes a lot of money. I understand pro football makes a lot of money. I understand the NBA makes a lot of money. And they haven't exactly figured out how to make a lot of money elsewhere, except just putting the game on. But they should take a note from what's worked well with Stephen A. Smith.

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If you have engaging, great, talented personalities that can speak with a wealth of knowledge, they can get you interested in in games. They can get you interested to watch that. ESPN is wonderful at producing these packages that'll make you care about stuff. They do it every college game day. I just wish that they weren't just a two-note entity.

Chapter 8: What are the potential consequences of a jinx in sports?

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