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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

The Big Suey: Down The Middle Dart

Fri, 25 Apr 2025

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Chapter 1: Who is Shadur Sanders and why is his draft status controversial?

151.16 - 173.087 Stugatz

And it either becomes a celebration where people are dancing to Pearl Jam, or it becomes a morgue where everyone just leaves because there's total despondency. I was brought in my head last night into the home of Shador Sanders, who did not show up in Green Bay, didn't want to go, sort of the anti-Cam Ward who loved being in Green Bay. Was super excited to be in Green Bay.

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173.888 - 189.595 Stugatz

I don't like Cam Ward anymore for that. Hates Green Bay. But Shadurah Sanders, nothing. And he knew it was coming. He had to have. He fell out of the top first round. His DraftKings odds to go below 14 was minus 450.

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189.976 - 205.825 Dave

There did feel like there was a momentum building to hold on. This may not go so well for him. I mean, heck, when we were talking to Diana yesterday, she made it sound like it was totally possible that he slips to the second round.

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207.006 - 218.616 Tony

In a sense, because when we brought up Pittsburgh and it was sort of like this tepid response of, well, maybe and that that would be probably the highest place that that shooter could go.

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218.776 - 234.383 Stugatz

So my query is, do you cancel the party? Before the party starts. You cancel the party before the draft starts. You're getting all these people. If you know you're trying to win best actor and you know you're losing, you're just happy to be nominated, you're going to have a full party?

234.764 - 242.887 Zazz

It makes it more sad, though, if he's just alone in his house on a couch. That's true. Regardless, they're going to want a shot of him, so you might as well have it look festive.

243.487 - 267.246 Dave

I would say a little bit of it depends on who you are inviting to your party. If your party is all of your family and closest friends. No, you'd like to be around the people that care about you and you care about if things don't go well. Maybe you want to be around people who you love. But if it's a whole sponsors, that kind of deal, you may want to pull the plug on that because you're concerned.

267.726 - 282.751 Stugatz

that you won't react well? Maybe. Because they're going to keep going to you and take a photo of you as one pick gets called, then another pick gets called, and you're still sitting there. That's one of the great visuals of any draft, is players who go. That's why players often don't want to go to the draft.

282.771 - 284.571 Dave

Well, I think that's why Shiderding want to go to the draft.

Chapter 2: How does media hype and perception affect NFL draft prospects?

483.74 - 510.247 Chris Cote

hey these teams are telling me this guy is going to fall this is how they feel and now i'm just communicating to the viewer that hey when you show up and you expect this guy whose number was just retired to be drafted day one that's not going to happen for sure but that's closer to the draft it felt like yeah like after the super bowl there was like all right there's a lot of negative momentum in the sanders camp where it's like things are coming out his pro day he's not going to throw here he's not going to be on space timing like that type of stuff and

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510.487 - 521.076 Chris Cote

On top of that, the Travis Hunter praise, it's like, is he going to play both sides? He says if he doesn't play both sides, he's not going to play. There was just a lot of stuff that was anti-Colorado, both athletes, that I thought was a little weird.

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521.216 - 538.311 Stugatz

We tend to ignore that, and I think teams, you don't pay a lot of attention to that anonymous assistant coach. who talked about how bad Shador was, how bad the interview was. It doesn't impact his draft status. Teams don't pay attention to that at all. But perception, though, Dave.

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538.672 - 552.265 Chris Cote

But not in the draft room of a team. For sure, but public perception. Now everybody starts thinking, oh, wait, is he kind of an asshole? We thought that he was this guy. Well, he also was flexing a $75,000 watch at students during the game, but whatever.

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553.038 - 558.451 Stugatz

Is that a flex automatic when you're Deion Sanders child? Yeah. To flex a 75K watch? Yeah.

558.872 - 579.356 Dave

I don't think... Well, I know. There's not another sport where... the team only cares about what can help them win. Like, the NFL, I feel like, is that sport. All the other stuff, don't care. Can he help us win? And certainly, Shigeru's not a bad character guy, no trouble off the field.

579.456 - 593.861 Dave

If anything, I think he's high character, obviously super arrogant, but if anything, I think he's high character because, I don't know, for me, if Deion Sanders were my father, You grow up that way. I don't know that I'm working as hard as Shadur did to get to this point. So I think that's a sign of high character.

594.261 - 612.57 Dave

But that's why I believe that it's a little bit, maybe it was a little bit of a media creation how good we thought he was. Because I don't think NFL teams are drawn away from, oh, he was very arrogant. You know, if he could help us win at the most important position in all of pro sports.

613.294 - 631.441 Stugatz

The ability for a quarterback to translate. We talked about Tony said college players who don't end up being good pros. That's every sport. There's there's a ton of college basketball players who are fun to watch during March. and they're terrific, they can even get to a championship, and they can't play pro basketball. Baseball, obviously that's the case.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of the NFL's fifth-year contract option for quarterbacks?

849.577 - 856.441 Stugatz

You're a good boy. Thank you. Go pee pee. God, the body's interesting, isn't it? It is. You can get it all done. All taken care of.

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858.004 - 867.778 Dave

I failed the test. Now, what do you like at concerts like tomorrow, David? Because I get worried about drinking too much and then I got to go to the bathroom during the show. I don't want to miss the show.

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869.386 - 883.156 Zazz

Yeah, I'm not a, that won't happen to me. They do a different set every time. I'm a big set list guy. I like to plan out my bathroom trips. If I'm going to a concert where the set list is the same every night, I prefer that. I want to see the set list. I know I'm going to go after this song, I'm going to the bathroom.

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883.236 - 888.98 Zazz

I got a two song bridge here where it's two bad songs I don't care about going to go to the bathroom there. That's how I play that concert.

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889 - 905.848 Stugatz

So Pearl Jam is not quite like that in terms of there are not that I'm aware of like five or six packs where you can know Bruce does this, where you know you're about to get a six pack and you can know where you can go to the bathroom and that should you want to go. But to me, the juice is not worth the squeeze to go to the bathroom during a concert. I'm with you. Only because it's such a schlep.

906.812 - 913.357 Stugatz

No matter the size of the venue, last night you were looking at five minutes door to door at least to get that done.

913.437 - 920.963 Dave

Oh my God, it was so easy. What a great venue that place is. Great, great venue. Super convenient. Really fun. Because it's in Broward.

921.243 - 938.011 Zazz

There is nothing worse than you're in the bathroom. And a song you're really looking forward to hearing is like, or you're in line and you're like two away from getting a beer. And it's like, you're running out of the line. All of a sudden you're going back for some song. It's just like that. I get your point there. There is nothing worse than missing a song that you really wanted to hear.

938.371 - 954.763 Stugatz

So therefore, if I don't want that to happen, I'm not going to leave the show because if you don't know exactly the set list, then you have no way of knowing what song is next. If it's all a surprise. Therefore, It can't be worth it to me. So I'm gonna start the concert with an extra drink,

Chapter 4: How do player comparisons like Johnny Manziel and Mike Evans inform draft expectations?

955.737 - 972.021 Stugatz

and I'm gonna then nurse it throughout the concert, maybe work in something that can last a few hours as a possibility instead of a drink. I see what you're saying. So what you're doing is you are making the plan because I don't want to be in that spot of missing my song because you never get it back.

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972.161 - 994.031 Dave

Yep. Yep. And I don't get hammered at shows either because I want to be in the moment. I want to remember the night, you know? You're talking about meth, right? No. Do you take video? Good question. I'll take a couple of pictures right when the show starts, then the phone goes away. A selfie with the kid? Yes, of course. Just to create the memory? Of course. And then the phone goes away.

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994.231 - 1000.934 Dave

I hate the recording. There were people in front of us last night. I think a guy in the row in front of us, a few seats down, I think he recorded the whole show.

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1001.614 - 1005.58 Zazz

No. And he will do nothing with that. You ever watch those videos? They're terrible.

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1005.94 - 1014.604 Dave

Yeah, like, is he sitting around one day, and he says, hey, hon, let's watch the video I took on my phone from last year at Pearl Jam. Like, let's relive this.

1014.644 - 1028.53 Tony

We'll put it on the TV, this grainy-ass footage. Some people put that on YouTube, and then there end up being people like me that never get to see someone in concert, and I'm watching some dude's shitty video of a two-hour and 45-minute concert where I can't hear half the songs, and they're $770.

1029.73 - 1054.575 Stugatz

total views yeah he's here for me critically important to understand that there's always going to be someone to serve me that is my view that if i need to see something again i'll search it on youtube and it'll be there i don't need to do the recording and not be in the moment because i'm going to have an opportunity to watch a moment from that concert somewhere else i'll tell you i'm learning right now i think dave and i have a good time tomorrow i think we're on the same page with a lot of this

1055.737 - 1078.146 Stugatz

I don't know that we're sitting together. Okay. But if we are, it could be fun. Though I'm anxious to be around Dan. I've been to a concert with Dan. A lot of neck movement, I'm telling you. And he's tall. He's tall and it makes it tough. But the good news is it is Valerie's birthday weekend. So the thought is he's on his best behavior. So I'm less worried about how he's going to be.

1078.166 - 1081.306 Stugatz

I don't know if that manifested itself last night. But the weekend starts today.

Chapter 5: What are the challenges and strategies for enjoying live concerts without missing key moments?

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1332.359 - 1340.088 Stugatz

Dan Levatard. Tatas. Stugatz. Tatas. This is the Dan Levatard Show with the Stugatz.

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1351.86 - 1358.45 Chris Cote

Somebody say look. Don't look now. Hit it. It's time for a new game.

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1359.572 - 1365.535 Zazz

Don't look now. Don't Look Now, presented by Smirnoff, the world's number one vodka. Please drink responsibly.

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1366.116 - 1378.58 Chris Cote

Boys, don't look now. Obviously, we had the NFL draft last night. Don't look now. Second round. I've been doing a little bit of investigative work. Zaz, are you looking? You've been looking? I'm looking at you. No, don't look at me. The whole point is don't look. I know Dave's not looking.

1378.6 - 1380.081 Dave

He follows directions. My eyes are closed.

1380.341 - 1380.841 Chris Cote

Nobody look.

1381.021 - 1384.902 Dave

Can somebody explain? I'm new here. Can somebody explain to me? I tell you. Don't look now.

1385.002 - 1403.773 Chris Cote

Don't look. Do not look. All right. Roy? Not looking. Okay, thank you. Pre-Don't Look Now, I was doing some investigative work. You're looking ahead, it seems like. I was looking ahead, but I'm not looking now, which is the whole point. You know who picks 37th in the second round? 37th pick, which is like the fifth or sixth pick of the second round. It's not 37th in the second.

Chapter 6: What is the 'Don't Look Now' game and how does it relate to the NFL draft picks?

1580.24 - 1598.472 Tony

Maybe you don't do it from the start because it's like a nice thing to be able to rely on if you can't sleep. Ooh, here's a second option that I can go out. I can change my routine. I can go do this thing that helps soothe me and get to sleep rather than if I start the night with this thing that's supposed to help soothe me, then what? Then what happens if I can't fall asleep?

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1598.532 - 1599.432 Tony

Then I'm up all night.

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1599.672 - 1605.135 Stugatz

If you already know you've got the backup plan, then your brain already says, all right, do the backup plan.

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1605.155 - 1612.638 Tony

Yeah, but some nights maybe you could just fall asleep. You're exhausted. You're able to go to bed. But this is just a break glass in case of emergency type of thing.

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1612.678 - 1620.402 Zazz

Does anyone in this room, do you guys have any backup? Like when you can't sleep and you've been rolling around for a half hour, what's your go-to? I'm going to think about this. I can always sleep. Do you have any?

1620.622 - 1643.703 Stugatz

Yeah, I go watch a movie. Really? Oh, so you stop trying to sleep. I only get, as you know, at most a couple hours a night. And so I'm watching content. And that is my prime time. I love the nighttime with the lights on. I love watching stuff. I watched a whole series the other night that I just reviewed. I'm nothing personal this morning. North of North. Have you ever heard of it? No, no.

1644.544 - 1653.411 Stugatz

So I get to watch so much more stuff than most people because I have so many more hours in the day. It's an eight episode arc, 30 minutes an episode. It's about a place that's way north.

1653.871 - 1656.193 Dave

I saw a preview of this recently. Yes. North of that.

1656.873 - 1660.195 Stugatz

It's way, it's more north than the most north we've ever been.

Chapter 7: Could Jackson Dart be a successful NFL quarterback and what makes his situation unique?

Chapter 8: How do the podcast hosts personally manage attending concerts and live events?

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1332.359 - 1340.088 Stugatz

Dan Levatard. Tatas. Stugatz. Tatas. This is the Dan Levatard Show with the Stugatz.

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1351.86 - 1358.45 Chris Cote

Somebody say look. Don't look now. Hit it. It's time for a new game.

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1359.572 - 1365.535 Zazz

Don't look now. Don't Look Now, presented by Smirnoff, the world's number one vodka. Please drink responsibly.

1366.116 - 1378.58 Chris Cote

Boys, don't look now. Obviously, we had the NFL draft last night. Don't look now. Second round. I've been doing a little bit of investigative work. Zaz, are you looking? You've been looking? I'm looking at you. No, don't look at me. The whole point is don't look. I know Dave's not looking.

1378.6 - 1380.081 Dave

He follows directions. My eyes are closed.

1380.341 - 1380.841 Chris Cote

Nobody look.

1381.021 - 1384.902 Dave

Can somebody explain? I'm new here. Can somebody explain to me? I tell you. Don't look now.

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