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Chapter 1: Who are the main hosts and guests on today's Local Hour?
This one promises to be interesting because Greg Cody and Zaslow are sitting across from each other. There is a history of something, something, a history of something there. Greg is pointing at me right now, but the reason this also has the possibility of being a cantankerous day is because you just muttered, I heard you right before we started, bleeping traffic, pain in the ass. Well,
You know traffic is traffic right so I don't like to complain about what's apparent and everybody who lives in South Florida knows rush hour getting from Broward to Miami is a pain in the ass but more so today I don't know why I left the house at the same time normally I get here 20 minutes earlier blah blah blah so I'm Breathing heavily.
You do seem, Chris, you've been laughing at him. His hair's a little discombobulated. He seems frazzled. He sounds frazzled. He's rushing in three minutes beforehand. Doesn't draft day's hell week for him? Sure.
Yeah, I'm a person who likes to show up early and not feel rushed. And today I showed up late and I feel rushed. So I'll catch up. Don't worry about me, kid.
I do worry about you every time that you're in because you tend to derail things with the way that you don't do things according to protocol.
It's one of the reasons that Zazz has been... Zazz and Dominique, I think, are perpetual... I don't want to speak for them, but they're perpetually... They've said on this show that they're frustrated that some basic things that could be easily learned around here are things you refuse to learn. Yeah, like what? Radio. The doing of... Broadcast.
Okay. I was under the impression I was speaking into a mic right now that people were hearing.
Very often that mic is not in front of your face.
But if I was writing, like if I was allowed one day to write a column in the Herald, and I wrote it in crayon, that would bother you, right?
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Chapter 2: What is the 'fine bucket' and how does the $50 fine system work?
So he owes $55. Can we get the sound here of Greg Cody with all of his hair disheveled from traffic? Greg Cody yesterday on the show killing Marv Levy. When the anonymous quotes come flying from the people who still admire Robert De Niro as a marquee movie star. The old coaches are speaking anonymously. I hate this. One of the many reasons I hate this time of year.
Well, if Marv Levy and Don Shula were still alive, the reference would have been there are no Lawrence Oliviers in this draft. So we have moved forward on that. Progress! I can't believe I missed that. Well, can I say something in all seriousness? I apologize to Marv Levy and his family. I didn't say that as a joke. I honestly didn't know he was still alive.
And I do think, I don't know who the commissioner of the fine bucket is, or if you're still calling it a fine bucket, but I appeal to the commissioner that a $50 fine should be reduced when the person I quote unquote killed is of the age 99. In other words, when someone is 99,
or would have been ninety nine i think is that is that what you're saying well there's a fair assumption that they might no longer be around and look when marv levy turns a hundred in august the city of buffalo the bills that nfl should throw this guy a parade he's a hall of famer in my opinion because time's running out what if well a hundred i mean who lives to be a hundred i kind of get where greg is going with this alberta i think if the person's in the upper nineties
The fine goes down to like $45. Tiered system. Yeah, it's a tiered system. Yeah, I think so. It goes down to like $40.
If you kill someone who's in their 90s, it's like $25. If they're in their 80s, it's $35. If they're in their 70s, you get to $50. It's minus five for every year over 100 they live.
Okay.
none of you are allowed to be in charge of the fine bucket none of you respect the fine bucket and this is a hard and fast rule no need for dilution or nuance if someone's alive and you say they're dead fifty dollars that's like there's no no we don't need any judges we don't need any we don't need to to do any gerrymandering here in order to get the right uh votes that we want it's hard and fast he killed somebody who's not dead fifty dollars
You know, in a democracy, you're allowed to appeal a verdict.
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Chapter 3: What happened with Jimmy Butler's injury and how are Heat fans reacting?
I'm bummed about that.
I didn't enjoy that. But I'm not a Heat fan, nor am I Zazlo.
I don't believe any of you. I know that you guys will say publicly whatever it is that you want to say. I believe the fact that Jimmy Butler left the game, and then champion Steve Kerr says, well, once that happens, we don't know what we're doing.
I wanted Jimmy to lose in five. I wanted the Warriors to lose. I won't shy away from that. I didn't want the Heat to get potentially swept in the first round and have the Warriors go on some miraculous run, of course. But watching Jimmy Butler get hurt in the postseason is one of the worst things to watch. He's one of the greatest postseason performers that we have.
And as an NBA fan, as a basketball fan, you're miserable. And as a Heat fan, you don't want to see the guy hurt.
hurt oh that's the nice thing to say Jeremy Jeremy you don't know Miami or Miami fans very well if you think you're speaking for all Miami fans I don't think I'm speaking for all Miami fans I'm thinking I think I'm speaking for more Miami fans than not though I don't think anybody wants I got so many texts last night hey can't believe Jimmy got hurt two games in like my phone just filled up that's how I got the news don't tell me that everyone's being nice about this I didn't say
Everyone's being nice about it. I said, I think most Heat fans with a soul are looking at this and saying, hey, it's a shame that he got hurt. I don't think anybody wants to see that. I think there might be people who send the text of, I told you so, and that's a different thing. Knowing that the guy puts his body out on the line and being worried about paying long contracts and blah, blah, blah.
That's a different thing than I'm feeling glee over the fact that he's injured and won't make a run now, right?
I have found very little around here pleases people more consistently than being able to say, I told you so.
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Chapter 4: How is Jimmy Butler's legacy viewed locally and nationally?
We found consensus. That's great. Yeah, good. All right. Good for us as a team. We did it. We changed someone's mind. I'm proud. I don't agree with you.
I like the idea of all the people texting you. thinking they're so original with their text. Oh, surprise, Jimmy Butler got hurt after one game. I'm not happy that Jimmy Butler got hurt. The part that I am happy with, the part that does please me, is I envision Pat Riley and the Heat front office like...
Yeah, this is why we weren't going to give him an extra $150 million on top of the two years that we've already guaranteed him, because that.
Why do you guys think that Heat fans would be nicer about this than people were when Anthony Davis limped off the court? And everyone took a certain glee in, ah, see?
Because that was funny. Like, that was funny.
This is also, like, we don't know how bad this injury is. Like, he's got a bruise on his pelvis. He could tough that one out. He was ruled out really quick. He can tough this one out. It could add to his playoff legend, possibly. It was also, like, a freak injury. He's just going up for a board. Dude behind him trips over Draymond. It kind of looked dirty initially.
Or maybe he did it on purpose.
You think? I mean, if he did, Draymond would have went at him. But Draymond was kind of responsible because a dude kind of tripped over Draymond's leg.
Yeah, it felt like he was just kind of trying to gain his balance. But I actually think that that's part of it, right? If Jimmy was just like driving to the hoop and rolled an ankle without even stepping on anybody and it was that type of thing, a little bit of that, I told you so, maybe even creeps into what we're talking about. But when you see a nasty spill like that, I just don't think that...
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Chapter 5: What were the key takeaways from last night's Heat vs. Cleveland game?
One way to say it. I think in South Florida, he's always going to be the trader who quit on the heat and pouted his way out of Miami. I think nationally, you're right. He's feathering his legend, particularly if they somehow win the championship. And he won the trade. He got what he wanted. He got the money he wanted. He got the teams, the situation he wanted. He loves it.
He didn't quite get the team that he wanted.
Well, he won the trade. Shaq's not thought of that way. Shaq did the exact same thing. It was probably less messy, but that didn't mean it wasn't messy at all. But isn't that because Shaq kind of did it in the shadows? Well, I guess. And media was different there. And Shaq has something that Jimmy doesn't have, a championship in a Miami Heat uniform.
But I do think time will heal all wounds, especially for a younger generation that maybe was adolescent during the Big Three era. Jimmy was their guy. And Jimmy is like the face that they associate with the franchise. Well, he won.
He became the face of heat culture wrongly. I don't think he was ever the face of heat culture. But look, the way he left is never going to be forgotten. It may be forgiven in time.
greg by you the noise of the moment with real legacy the noise of the moment isn't something that echoes okay this is this is 15 years of career and draymond green punched a teammate not how he'll be remembered like that's the noise of the noise of the moment is not the thing that sticks i
think that when we look back at the totality of his career it's going to be more he couldn't land anywhere he was never happy anywhere I mean yes he had the the bubble run with the heat but I think he will be thought of more generally as a guy who was really good that just couldn't fit in anywhere as a journalist I would tell you that I think that that's not going to be the way he's remembered here
Let's talk about the specifics of last night's game. Cleveland, extraordinary at threes. The way that Cleveland can beat Boston is by being better than threes. Better at threes than Boston. In last night's game, the Heat put together offensively a second quarter they kind of want to put together. Six threes in a second quarter. You do that over the course of the game. You've made 24 threes.
That's kind of what it is that you want to do. However, they're down 17 because Cleveland's made five more threes than them in the second period. It's the most ever in a quarter in an NBA season. postseason, and the Heat just basically trailed the entire game. And then late in the game, they got close. I'm curious how the rest of you feel about this.
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Chapter 6: What adjustments did coach Spoelstra make and were they effective?
Well, the Cavs rightly have the luxury of treating... as the only offensive threat on that team, and I thought that really shone through last night. This was a game where they needed, and I'm going to say Bam and Wiggins, they needed one of those guys to have a big game. Bam and Wiggins together had 21 points on 6 of 19 shooting.
They're never going to beat a team in the playoffs, let alone the highest scoring team in the league, the number one team.
Wiggins was three for 10, 10 points in 28 minutes. Doesn't look anything like the champion contributor that he was for the Warriors. He helped win the Warriors a title. He was that kind of important. Bam had 11 points on nine shot attempts. But let's hear from Darius Garland here. Again, Tyler Hero has been the screener defender on 50 pick and rolls through two games.
Since the trade deadline, Miami's been really good at turning teams over, but the first two games you guys have really held on to it. What's the key to playing clean basketball like that against a team like that?
Pick on Tyler Hero and take care of the ball. Don't play in tight spaces. And pick on their weak defenders. Go at them.
Is it less racist if the Cleveland Indians logo is upside down? Cool hat, bro.
You guys think what of that? Because when the Heat lose, they've lost more games this season than they've won. They don't belong on the floor with that team. That team has been exceptional all season, is better than them in every way.
The real only advantage that you have in that series is that you hope that over seven games, Spolster can figure out playing the same team again and again and again, that he's got something for them later in the series. Well, he was tweaking with the lineup a little bit.
Guys that hadn't played in a long time are finding themselves playing way more minutes than they're probably prepared for. But look, this is a one versus eight matchup. But Miami's going back to home court. And I do think that Miami has a shot.
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Chapter 7: How is player performance affecting the Heat's chances this postseason?
He said after the game, I thought this was sort of weird. I thought it was an off-key note by him. He said, at the end of the day, we were two points down, meaning late in the game with like four and a half minutes left.
It was 101-99 late in the fourth.
And I would say, Spoh, with due respect, at the end of the day, you're in a 2-0 hole. You've been outscored by 30 points. You don't have a second offensive option against the best scoring team in the league. Where is your lane to victory? And I can't see it right now.
I think their lane to victory is math. And that's why they shot more threes. They were clearly emphasizing we need to shoot more threes than we did in game one, which they did. And this way, let's just play with the math. If we get really hot from three, that ends up being the great equalizer.
Jessica thinks you're pathetic. I saw the look on her face. It can never be the lane to victory math.
I know. I think Jeremy's pathetic. You should hear him back here. It's so sad. Jeremy just delivered the most... absurd theater kid basketball analysis line that I've ever heard from him, which is really saying a lot.
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Chapter 8: What are the sponsors featured in today's episode?
My dad was talking about the adjustments that Spoh made and criticizing him last night, and Jeremy just back here, his adjustments were spectacular.
It's just like they lost. They're down 0-2. The only reason they were even in that game is the differences that they made in the rotation, moving Davion Mitchell in the starting lineup, playing Niko Jovic and playing Pella Larson. I had no idea he was even available. Right. Niko Jovic ends up playing just to show you the disparity in these teams, right?
Like the Heat just decided to ride a hot lineup that included a guy who hasn't played since February for the final, you know, basically 15 minutes of that game. And that's the lineup that got them back in it because they're still in this space with this roster of, I don't really know who we are. I don't really know what we have. And so changing the math was what they tried to do early in the game.
They tried to get Wiggins involved and he couldn't get going. And honestly, that was part of the reason Bam ended up taking four threes with like two seconds left in the shot clock.
They do know what they have. They know it's not good enough. And so they try a bunch of other things that they don't know. No, that's right. Because what they do know is that what they have will not work in the formations that they've been using them.
The emphasis that he put on spectacular was hilarious. The adjustments were real, and they were spectacular.
Okay, Jovic, Spoh was raving about Jovic after the game. We're a different team with him on the floor. Fine, that may be. But what I saw last night was rust falling all off the floor against him. He was one for eight against threes. If that's the impact they need, I don't see it.
God, how exciting would it have been if Jovic hit that shot. Warner would have brought them within one.
Had no legs, but the adjustments were a tour de force.
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