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2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2028.996

Bro, are you serious? Right now he's like, I'm going to get this pizza to try it. What kind is it?

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2036.842

I'm going to tell you if you should do it. He said I'm either going to throw it on the floor. Let's see what he does. Can't be bad because you would have already tossed it.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2066.811

Mm-hmm.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2086.266

It's easy. Is it? It's nice.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2089.41

Okay. It's good.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2139.393

So they're not familiar with this.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2165.672

All right, y'all ready to run out? Y'all follow me? You cut it? Did you cut it? Did y'all follow me?

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2173.636

Give me some juice to swallow it with. Good. All right, got it, got it. The guy's 100% not confused at all.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2180.1

He's like, what are you doing?

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2181.241

Why would you eat it? All right, look, I'm supposed to say, hold on.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2184.262

Yeah, exactly.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2186.243

First mistake again. First mistake. First mistake. He didn't toast the bread. He didn't toast the bread. Which is not how they make that.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2195.892

He's like, all right, take a bite of this. It's garbage.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2202.236

Get the fuck out of here. Oh, shit.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2281.707

I want you to come to the Flamingo restaurant, the Dominican one in Miami Beach, Florida. Hey, the chef to come in and taste paid the chef to come in and taste it, which is there's no way. And guess what?

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2294.796

It's good.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2296.738

What? I like it. If you want me to come in and try your restaurant, all you got to do is give me a call. That's a liquor store.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2499.096

The chef is excited. So I told y'all in the beginning about color. Beautiful and nice. And the color I told you about was what? Do y'all remember? Red and white mixed with color. Pink. So we got white. And where's the red? In the tomatoes. You amazing. You amazing. Is that all the tomatoes?

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2516.62

So he made that sauce. Oh, chef.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2616.877

I mean, I was like, he's a good chef. Yeah, I mean, yeah.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2883.324

That might be, dude.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2949.563

But don't touch me, bro. Stop touching me.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2997.436

Oh, yeah, I remember that guy.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

3037.511

Just go ahead. He's off camera.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

3041.315

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. This is what I saw. That was the real side of it.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

3050.526

Hey, Jack, don't sue me. Sue the security company. Don't sue me. I got somebody for you. He shouldn't have did that, because now I'm about to have him stop us coming here. Hey, listen, I'm telling you, y'all going to need more security in this motherfucker. You still got to go to that after party, nigga. I'm going to be there. I'm there on your ass. No ditty.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

3470.978

You can read?

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

3712.843

Oh, yeah.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

3714.303

Yeah.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

3760.913

This is around the time he didn't know enough blacks. He didn't know enough blacks.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

3785.205

Yeah.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

3800.6

He'll get there.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

3851.285

I think it was...

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

3896.885

These were still in the good times when we were young. We stand for the flag if you don't like it. Hell, we don't. Damn right, America.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

3908.169

You're going to respect us. You're going to respect us. Respect us. Respect us. We don't take nothing off nobody. We don't take shit. We don't take shit.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

3938.042

Because you don't know where it's about to go.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

3946.253

Yeah.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

3988.637

No way.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

4365.013

Yeah.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

4501.764

It can get kind of gamey back there.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

4602.546

Hey, man, he left. Listen, I love doing the show, man.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

4608.488

I appreciate you, man.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

4610.749

It got fucking weird, man.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

4613.01

What the fuck do you mean? What are you talking about?

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

4622.781

All right, no, that doesn't work like that.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

4626.425

No, the fuck is that?

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

4636.035

There's not a chance in hell that they'll keep it clean. Here's what we call Two Bears, One Cave.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

63.294

Yes.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Druski STORMS Off The Podcast | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

754.826

Yeah, what the fuck, man? Yeah. Yo, I'm just saying I never was at any of those situations. I just meant I thought you guys texted a lot. No, man.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1.17

100%. Brand new Two Bears, One Cave, and I am lucky enough to be joined by a man that would be perfect in my life right now because I am going through a moment. My current partner, Tom Segura, is looking at ski chalets in Switzerland, purchasing.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1005.396

I got one of these one time. When I first started doing Rogan, he used to sell fleshlights. And he would talk about them. He's like, you've got to fuck them. They're so good.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1019.128

No, it was not a Rogan. One was an alien. One was like Christy Mack. It was all the porn stars.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1051.26

Where's my phone? I wonder if we can get Frank Caliendo on the phone.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1054.904

Wait, so, okay, so Rogan used to sell fleshlights, and so he would do ads for fleshlights. I mean, I can get into the weeds on this. It's really fucking fascinating. And by the way, this is worth a deep dive because it is... It is, in essence, how, if I'm not mistaken, how he got involved with Onnit. Okay. And so it's his buddy, Aubrey Marcus. Well, I've met the Fleshlight people.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1078.466

So they were the cool kids out of Austin that sold Fleshlights. And they went to Rogan. They're like, can you talk about it on the podcast? And he did, and he had ad sales sponsors. But he would talk about them, and he'd be like, have you ever fucked one? And I was always like, no. And he's like, see if we have an extra one back there. And they never had an extra one.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1092.618

So one time in Miami, at the old Miami – uh, comedy club, the improv. And I'm walking around to get lunch and there was a sex shop and I walked in and I was like, I was like, Hey, do you guys have a, like a flashlight? And the guy's like, we got fucking a can. And I was like, cool, I'll take it. What is that, the dollar store version? No, it was a can of Sapporo. What?

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1114.502

And you took the top off of it, and it was a pussy. Except I got one. I didn't open it. I raced home. I got back. He goes, you want lube? I was like, no. Yeah, of course I want fucking lube.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1125.585

And so I get home. I open the can, and it's a mouth. It's the mouth. It's not the pussy. I'm like, God damn it. And he's just looking at you like going. Please don't do it, man. Please, please.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1139.209

And no teeth in it. And so I fucked it. And I'm telling you, the shame of cleaning cum out of a flashlight. There's nothing like it.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1149.591

You just throw it away.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1156.093

I'd rather have someone cum inside me than clean cum out of a flashlight.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1187.827

My fiance Beyonce. And then someone went, he's a rapper.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1202.54

All right. Help me figure out life. I'm 48 years old, also 52. You're crushing it. What... What should I focus on this year, Dr. Phil?

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1284.367

You know what I was doing is I was getting off Instagram, and I realized I like Instagram. I'm getting back on.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1291.869

I started putting videos up. I was like, no, no, that's not. I think nothing in moderation. Okay, just go hard in the paint. Yeah, nothing in moderation. You're going to die anyway one day. You might as well have fun as fucking shit while you're alive. I think I might be not a hedonist, not a narcissist, not a fascist.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1319.824

What is a nihilist again? Can we Google nihilist real quick? I think a nihilist is someone who just does it.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1371.99

Do you think men are better at women on the internet because...

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1398.257

I'm not a big fan of things hanging on my door. My wife does like a wreath. A wreath, yeah.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1404.262

During Halloween, she's got like a spooky kitty. Like she, my wife decorates.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1409.545

Decorates.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1415.709

No, I'm not. You know what? I've never been, I've never done it. What's your favorite holiday, Bert? And then I'll go next. Okay. Probably St. Patrick's Day.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

143.947

I had a birthday last night.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1432.774

Okay, let's go.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1457.084

Tsunami doesn't rhyme with bukkake.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1476.383

No dick for your pussy, just dick for your throat. Throat and support. There it is.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1489.85

The day they were going to put down our dog. I was on the treadmill, and I watched Greg Giraldi's special, and I was crying laughing, and I was thinking we might have to put down our dog. And I was like, God, thanks, Greg, for giving me that. He was a great fucking guy.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

149.551

It's a whole month is November birthday. Yeah.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1513.334

I heard his son's doing stand-up.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1515.215

Yeah. I heard his son's doing stand-up.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1544.352

I love Peaky Blinders. It's a show, right? Yeah, it's a show. You know, I get up. I was having a hard time for this last probably four months finding a reason to root for me. Because I feel like I achieved everything I ever wanted. And I didn't have any more goals or projects. And I was just lost. And my daughters were gone. And I woke up on my birthday. And I said, fuck that.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1567.743

I'm going to be the happiest I can be. I'm going to be bulletproof. I'm not going to feel anything anymore. but fucking joy and I and I'm gonna start seeing the trees and smelling the roses and enjoy fucking life and smiling and dancing and Why isn't it smell the trees and see the roses?

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1582.868

Yeah, what you know cuz there's tree huggers There's not tree smellers right smell the roses is a phrase that also is a way to find out if you have kovat I think so remember those days and you go I

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1602.604

15.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1603.045

Seven.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

161.577

Yeah. Well, here's what happened. I tried to remember all the birthdays that I could out of all of them. And I can only remember 11 birthdays. And I realized that's really sad. Oh, for your own birthday. My own birthdays. I have number 10 was we moved in a new house. Number 11, I don't remember anything before number 10. Number 11, I got my teeth knocked out with a baseball bat on my birthday.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1719.996

No, I was sober, but yeah.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1736.225

You know, for real, the first time I lost my virginity, I missed it in my dick between her butt cheek and the bed. Yep.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1748.569

Are you there, guys? It's me, Margaret. My dick between her butt cheek and the bed.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1756.993

I knew I wanted to be. Judy Blume?

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1762.896

about but i knew that all the cool chicks were reading them yeah so i bought the judy bloom books at the book fair and i walked around with them i didn't read but i just had like are you there god it's me margaret and they were like can you read that i was like it's really good it's about a girl getting her period oh you fucking pervert i walked around with judy bloom books all through fucking fifth grade because i wanted to look like one of the girls that talked to me

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1799.677

It's everything about a little girl figuring out her life.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1804.899

I never read one of them.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

181.704

About Mark McGuire? No, no, my dad. We'll come back to that. I was talking. It was back in the day.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1816.755

And they're like, are you reading that? I was like, oh, I love it. It's so good. Judy Blume was like my favorite. And they're like, really? And I just had no fucking idea. And then my mom saw them and goes, what are you reading? I was like, I'm not reading it. I just carry it. And she was like, there was one called Blubber. I think you're confusing it with Flubber, the Robin Williams movie.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1836.161

No, Blubber. Blubber was one. Are you there? God, it's me, Margaret. What are the other?

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1842.203

It's about a fat chick. Tales of a Fourth Grade Nothing. I had Tales of a Fourth Grade Nothing.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1857.006

Not to be confused with Super Bad. Right. I read the book. What else?

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1862.828

Is she still alive?

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

190.926

No, it wasn't my dad. I never met the kid. He swung the bat. I fielded the ball. I was the catcher. I took my mask off. I threw it to third, and he hit me in the mouth with a baseball bat. I remember 16. I remember 18. I remember 21. I remember 26. I remember 27. I remember 29. I remember 30. And then 49, 50, and 51. I love that you can remember what you remember.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1922.84

Drink in the garage as long as you sleep over.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1948.748

I just got what you said. Drink in the garage. As long as you can sleep over. They're young.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1960.036

As long as you sleep over. And it's just some dude drinking in your garage until he gets tired. He knocks on the door. You're like, come on in. You can sleep on the couch as long as you sleep over. Oh, fuck.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

1988.248

I need another drink, please. I'll drink in the garage.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2013.083

I love a good recliner.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2028.951

Fuck on the waterbed. Yeah. Me and my wife will sleep on the futon. Yeah. But I'm a couch guy.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2035.737

I love a couch.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2045.776

What I like to do is pass out in a recliner, make my way to the bed. Okay. Oh. Yeah. And you can see the spike on my whoop is when I wake up.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2086.978

Yeah.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2094.164

Can I tell you why I wear hats for real? Other than the fact that I'm losing my hair and I'm self-conscious and I don't want to have to do my hair to look good. Skin cancer.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2104.594

Yeah, I've had so many friends lose, like I have a friend lose half her nose. From skin cancer? From skin cancer. Leanne just got skin cancer. They took a hole out of her stomach. She okay? I don't know. I never followed up. I think she's good. She's still here. That's wild. I got this hat when I sold out the Boston Garden.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2136.328

Were you so accustomed to selling at arenas? No, no, that was the first. I think that was the first arena I sold out. It was definitely like, because I had just come back from Europe. It was my first stop on the arena tour. Right. And I walked in in this old, grizzled, like worker, just like a longshoreman type guy, like a union guy goes... You sold it to the ceiling, kid. I was like, what?

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2159.274

He goes, sold it to the fucking ceiling. You should be proud. Fucking sold it to the ceiling. I just walked away, and I went, sold it to the ceiling. Someone goes, yeah, it's sold out. No seats available. And I went, oh, sold it to the ceiling. That's such a cool statement.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2178.562

I love that. Like Norma Downey. Touched by an angel. Okay. And what if he was an angel? Could have been. Yeah. Do you believe in that stuff? I got to believe in something. So I don't, I started thinking to myself, I had this conversation. I've said, I've said this before and I know it's crazy, but it's a bit I'm trying to work on. One day it'll figure it out. But I said, I don't believe in death.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2198.223

I go, cause what if you just don't believe in death and go, who gives a fuck? Because people already believe in other wilder shit, right? People believe in God. People believe in reincarnation. People believe in all this wild shit. People believe it just goes black. I go, what if you just don't believe in death and then you don't have to worry about dying anymore? Are you looking for something?

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2235.875

No, there is not.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2258.691

But I'm sorry, what was your story? I don't know. Something about believing in Christ or something? Yeah, believing in Christ. I forget how we got on it, but I was trying to... God bless you.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

227.763

I'll never forget this birthday.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

Dr. Phil Makes Bert Cry | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

2273.042

I appreciate it.

2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

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Yeah, you don't have to focus on it the way I focus on it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Or 49. I was thinking, and I'd love your opinion, that at 50, what if I start going backwards? What do you mean by that? So I go at 50. Instead of saying I'm 52, I say I'm 48, and I start going down the numbers to see if I can get to zero.

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Take your time. Sound it out. I like to go into McDonald's and give them $200 and go surprise me.

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great i love it and what do they do they they're always like huh i go just make it feel like 200 bucks do you say put this in the register or like pocket this no they don't they just go ham we did it we did it one time i did it with uh ariza fear sean patton mark norman steve run is easy and uh and ryan o'neill and we went to a del taco and they're all talking about what they'd order and we were all wasted and i said guys let's make it easy

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Pulled up to the thing. Didn't even order. I just pulled up to the thing. I gave the guy $200. I go, surprise us. Razzle dazzle, baby. Razzle. And this guy, we ate Del Taco for three days in Salt Lake City.

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God, I fucking love Del Taco.

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Can I tell you where Taco Bell excels, and I've already thought too much about this? God bless you. The texture of their ground beef is so fine that you can't get the same texture of that ground beef. You have to put it in a blender, and I've done it. I've put it in a blender. You put Taco Bell in a blender?

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No, I put ground beef with taco seasoning in a blender and got it to the texture of Taco Bell's texture. Oh, it's so fucking good. My mouth is watering.

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I haven't had McDonald's in quite a while. I haven't had McDonald's probably... This is why your skin looks so good. I haven't had McDonald's since the pandemic.

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I haven't had McDonald's since the pandemic.

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Yeah. So I'm 48.

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I haven't had... I have had Taco Bell. I've had Taco Bell a lot. I've had Taco... Taco Bell's my one cheat. I can't not get it.

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Did you ever cheat on your wife?

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There's no more powerful of a feeling than not giving a fuck. Yeah. When I remember going to a store, and it was an outdoor store, like an outdoor shop. I love going to those on the road. Like an REI type thing, but it was a mom and pop shop.

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It was more of a mom and pop shop. And I needed to get socks. And I love just going to these places. But I needed to get socks. And it closed at 5. And it was 4.45. And I got up and the kid locked the door. And I was like... As I got there, he was locking the door. And I went, no, no, no. It's only 4.45. And he went like this. He goes, I don't care. And he just walked away. And I went...

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That's the most powerful fucking move I've ever seen in my life. He doesn't give a fuck. It's not his store. He doesn't have anything invested in this. When I worked at Barnes & Noble.

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Which one?

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Nice. Luke Myers was a fan of the show, and he was giggling until he heard hate juice. And he was like, the fuck, man?

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Hates juice.

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OJ. There was a girl. there was a girl, God, I wish I remember the name of this comic.

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Yes. She said, she said, we were talking about getting a black eye. Yep. And she goes, I had a black guy one time. Black guy. Her boyfriend goes, what did you say? Oh, shit. She goes, it hurt so bad. I said, really? She goes, it was so black, it was almost purple. Oh, boy. We were crying, laughing. And he was like, hold on, hold on. She's like, my dad was so pissed when I came home and he saw it.

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I was like, this is a bit, what was that guy's fucking name?

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Ryan Dalton.

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Ryan Dalton. It was Ryan Dalton's girlfriend. It's now a wife. It's now his wife.

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Yeah.

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I use the big words, but I always use them wrong.

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Like, I was using salt of the earth as in, like... These people, they ride the subway, they're salt of the earth. Someone's like, what do you mean?

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I didn't know salt of the earth was like the good people.

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He's a fucking idiot.

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Oh, I had a friend one time. We had a friend one time, and he was trying to pick up a chick, and there was this little girl, and they were talking about her needing a heart transplant. Okay. And he leaned in, and he goes, that's why I'm an organ donor, so that I could save a little girl like that. I go, they're not going to give her a 50-year-old's heart. It's fucking huge.

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You're a grown, obese man.

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She's going to be walking around like this.

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Do you know you can donate your eyes? What? Can you donate your eyes? You can donate your eyes. Wait, why don't they just donate?

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I'd say no.

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Yeah.

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Okay, now we're back in.

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And what if you have a pedophile's eyes and then you start being attracted to kids? What if it's the eyes?

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Amen. I said to Leanne the other day, I had a bunch of birthdays I had to work on them. And I said, you know, what a gangster. I worked on my birthday. That's a big time move. And she goes, you know, everyone works on their birthday.

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Wait, hold on. You can donate your eyes after you die to help others see or to advance medical research.

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You can donate your fucking eyes.

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And no one should be blind then. Nobody should be blind. Everyone that dies should be donating their eyes. And then what if you... Is it bad? Do you think it's white privilege if I got... If I took some donate... I donated... If I got eyes... You know what I'm trying to say? No. If I was just...

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What if I just wanted prettier eyes?

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No, I want green eyes. I already have beautiful eyes.

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You open a book and it says top 100 books. You're like, what is this book about?

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I stopped that. Or I stopped talking about it. Yeah.

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Because it's like, what's the point of donating money if you don't share with people that you donated money? And then what happens is then they go, you could have donated more. Right.

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Do you shoplift?

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Do you know what I do? I go in. I used to, I've done this. I used to do this all the time in college. What do you do? I go in and grab the deodorant and I go to, if there was someone in the hall, I go, I just got to see if I'm allergic to it. Great. And they're like, okay. And so I go, I go, oh no. I go, I think. Oh, God, I can't. I'd walk out of the store.

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I did weekends in like Omaha one year, Virginia Beach. And I thought, what a selfless man I am that I'm working on my birthday. And then she's like, yeah, kids go to school on their birthday.

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Fucking roses. The Rock has his own line of, that's crazy.

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Went to a strip club after, remember? We did go to a strip club after. They let me dance on stage. It was a fun fucking night. It was great. We have a vodka together. And do you know what the next line is that everyone's getting investing in? What? Deodorant and soaps. Jake Paul, The Rock. Everyone's going to have their own deodorant and their own soaps out. The Rock's got Papa Tui.

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Do you know The Rock?

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Did the real Phil at one point go, you know I used to do this without you?

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I heard you're doing a big show at the Super Bowl this year. I don't think it's been announced yet, but I've heard rumors.

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Yeah, I think there's... Type in famous person who died on their birthday.

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Who would you like to – if you could interview someone at the Super Bowl, who would you want to interview?

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He was the funniest guy at the Tom Brady roast because he would misread his thing and it would be even funnier. He is the fucking, he is.

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Gronk, yeah, he's a big math guy. Well, I don't believe that. He's a huge math guy. That's what Julian Edelman told me. Huge math guy, proficient in the violin, classically trained pianist.

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That's good.

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We're done. Can you play a song?

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You look like you're wearing kids clothes.

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Here, move your strap. John Mayer. I saw John Mayer. I got to give him a shout out. I saw him with Dead and Company.

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Really? Yeah. He had a broken... This finger was broken. And he played three hours without one finger and didn't miss a fucking beat. He is...

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Wow. Wow. You, you are so fucking talented. Appreciate you. You really are, man. I'm like fucking blown away. I cannot wait for this fucking special.

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Merle Haggard died on his birthday. Who else? Is anyone? William Shakespeare.

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We were talking about maybe doing something in Vegas January.

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Nancy Grace.

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Do you think that would be a cool serial killer if you killed people on their birthdays?

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They should have had Al Bundy play Ted Bundy.

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What was her name? Rand, what? Never mind.

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I think people think of Zac Efron and they think of the major motion pictures. Ooh, sweet eyes, hot cock. No, he's... Baywatch, fucking awesome. Pretty funny. Pretty funny. Miriam and Dave need weddings?

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I hear clear and I see the skeet going in the sky, but I don't have my gun. I'm like, God damn it. It's in the trunk. Fuck. Oh, these are all the movies he did?

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He was great in Neighbors.

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What are you supposed to do, Dr. Phil, when a white person says the N-word in front of you?

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Oh, he just came in after the N-word debacle.

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Ooh, I bought a penis extender. For who? I got given to me, right? It got given to me. They sent me a bunch of sex toys. Who did? What was the name of the company? Someone say the name of the company downstairs.

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Wait, why wouldn't they just add a sex toy? They're already making toys.

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It's like when something does a seltzer and then a hard seltzer.

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Hey, will you bring the penis extender up here? Someone bring the penis, because you'll be shocked.

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I went to a brothel in Germany. I know you did. I follow you on Facebook. With my buddy Dan. And he had a prostitute. He fucked her. And no condom. Oof. Can't do that. Well, you can, but... You can. He did. And he said to me as we walked up the stairs out of the brothel, we never talk about this. I've told so many people.

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I've had people not tell me secrets. They go, can I tell you a secret? And I go, hang on. How important is this? And then they'll tell me. I go, you shouldn't tell me. Don't tell me. I'm not good at keeping secrets. I enjoy. I told a secret. I was working with Jimmy Tatro. And we were in my pool in Serbia. And he said, can I tell you a secret? And I said, yeah. And he told me the secret.

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Yeah, oh, like a flashlight.

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And I grabbed my phone, called my buddy Kale. And I said, you're never going to believe what Jimmy just told me. And he went, hold on. That was a secret. I said, I know, but I'm just telling Kale. He goes, no, that's how a secret works is you don't tell anybody. Yeah, well, you try your best. I was like, but it's Kale. You would be cool with me telling Cale.

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And he was like, no, that's how a secret works.

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Oh, I've had more rumors started about me on this show. I didn't know you actually could get your liver drained. This is the penis extender? What's this?

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Wait, why is the penis extender at my house?

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Why for the year? Fuck. I'm as big as the penis extender. Yeah. That was my whole point to show you how small the penis extender was.

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It's like a Halloween costume for your dick. Okay. So you put it over your dick and then it attaches to your balls and it makes your dick roughly what I'm guessing is like six to seven inches. Gotcha. But it's not like if you were going to get a penis extender, I thought you'd want it to be like 12 inches, but it's not. I didn't realize this.

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This episode of Two Bears, One Cave is brought to you by Shinedown's Dance Kid Dance Tour featuring special guests Bush and Morgan Wade. Shinedown's Dance Kid Dance Tour kicks off July 19th at Boston's TD Garden and makes stops at some of the most iconic venues across the country.

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This is Shinedown's biggest tour yet featuring Second Chance, Sound of Madness, and all the classics you'll love alongside some never-before-performed deep cuts. And, of course, the mind-blowing production in Pyro the band is known for. Let me tell you something. I've had these guys on Birdcast. I've known Zach for a very long time. We've seen them perform whenever our tour's lined up.

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No, no, no, no. It was more like an improv sketch.

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I think this is just so you practice.

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So when you're here and they go, this is the best flown in today from Japan, Japan's like, yeah, you can keep that shit. That's the worst. Yeah, we don't want it. That's so funny. So that's the difference of quality.

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This reminds me of when I shaved my face a few weeks ago, and everyone was like, I hate your face. I go, this is my face, bro. It's my face. It's not a turkey sandwich. This is my face. And this guy came up to me at a bar.

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Exactly. This is so good. Yeah, and it is good. We eat it here, and it's good. But over there, there's a whole other level you don't know about.

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You watch somebody make an omelet there, and it's just like performing surgery, and they're just like, here you go.

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I don't know. I think that it really is like a, it probably starts at home. It's a cultural thing, right? Yeah. I mean, let's just say it. Asian excellence. They're just fucking better. They are, dude. They're just better, dude. They are.

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What age range were you skateboarding in?

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and he goes it's good the beard's back and i go yeah and he goes yeah that was bad and i go it wasn't that bad and he goes he goes nah it was bad and i go what the man why are you doing this to me he's like it looks really i got i go my face my face looks so bad he was like yeah dude that sucked you look terrible i was like what the I had to shave for the show. You know about the show.

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Has he tried to get out? You can change your lifestyle.

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But they also, the two guys I'm thinking of, look nothing like they did because they made dramatic changes.

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So you just got it, but you, are you already making the... Y'all, big one.

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I mean, hold on, dude.

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Hey, man. You know, I was with Tony Hawk. Yeah? And he wears a helmet, knee pads, and elbow pads. That's Tony Hawk. He's a bitch. No, he's not.

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He's doing crazy shit, dude.

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He's just fucking dilettante.

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I didn't have this appreciation, though, for... Because I think as a kid, when you see greatness in different sports, you're like, that guy's just really good.

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Like Michael Jordan, you're like, he's just really good. Yeah. And it takes becoming an adult, seeing some stuff, talking to some people... And then you realize, oh, this guy is a psycho. He's out of his fucking mind. And I didn't realize that when Tony came here and he was talking about how his femur broke and this doctor was like, well, you're not going to be able to do what you did.

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Yeah. Oh, my god, dude.

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He's like, I just went to another doctor. And that doctor was like, well, we could do this thing and reset it differently. So how does another surgery to reset it? And then I got on a board and then I was like,

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huh yeah you're crazy bro he's out of his mind he is a psycho he's a competitive psycho lance armstrong psycho michael psycho they're fucking crazy people i do like how jordan's psychoness just transferred to like sports gambling once he got done yeah i kind of like that about that well they also the gambling ones are also it's it's the same thing about winning it's just about winning it's like taking and then the rush of like i won this thing i want to get it

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again yeah yeah so it's like because dana white is like that you know like and and i asked him that because he's he's famously gambles crazy amounts of money and he does it like daily and i was like yeah but this is because you're addicted to like big wins and he was like yeah 100 percent

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He goes, but Dana goes in, he goes, I'll play three hands and leave.

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He wants to win. I like that. So he goes in. He bets huge. Yeah. $350,000, $400,000 a hand. And he's like, if I win two or three, he's like, I'm out of there. That's impressive. Yeah. And then he just goes home like, yeah, I just walked out with 1.2. And now I'm feeling good. And then tomorrow I'm going to do it again. God, they're going to ban him. If he keeps winning, they're going to ban him.

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There's a few casinos that don't want him to come in. Really? Like six, yeah. So he stays to like a couple.

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The other thing that's crazy, because I gamble sometimes on a much smaller scale, is you can go $3,000, and they go, boop. And then when you win, and you're like, oh, I got $3,000 in chips. They're like, hold on. Phone calls. Let me see your ID. And you're standing there in line to get your cash, I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. Hey, where did you win this? I'm like, at the table. What do you think?

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Which table? I'm like, I don't know the number of the table. And then, like, call somebody else. Hold on. Let me see your ID. We need to scan it. Enter your thing. What's your social? And you're like, this is pretty cool that, like, I can give you the money. And it's like, no problem. Yeah. But this whole process of getting it back. I mean.

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But I feel like that's got to be, like, the big dogs, dude. Like, Macau is famous for that. That's the money laundering capital of the world.

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Yeah.

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And then, okay.

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People have different thresholds for it, and I was at a blackjack table with these NFL guys, and...

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like the way that some of them were betting it was like it's making my eyes water and i was like you're just getting horny i was i was getting like the because i always feel like you have to like work up the courage yeah to increase you know so like if you're like i bet a hundred and then you get on a little roll or you feel prep you go all right i'm gonna do 500 or a thousand you're like oh man and these dudes were doing like 10 20 grand i was like god

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Yeah.

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It's got to do something. It's got to hurt you. There is a thing where you're like, hey, you won, and the amount does nothing to the heart rate. That's what I'm saying. And you're like, well, this is nothing.

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Yeah.

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I know. I won one time. I should, it's always like, you should listen and you should walk away. Yeah. I went to do a show in Vegas and pre show went to these tables and And won $7,000. That's kind of nice. I was like, I mean, glowing, right? Just like. Yeah. And we went and did the show. And you're just like riding this dopamine drip. And I came back. I went back to the tables.

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I know. The...

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And I started losing. And like guys with me were like, just leave now. And I was like, no. Like a total degenerate. Get the fuck out of here. And I kept betting, kept betting. And I just kept losing, losing, losing. And I lost it all. The money that I'd won, I just lost it all.

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There I am. Oh, dude.

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in comparison to like what you're getting paid to do the show, it's not a significant amount, even though it sounds, it's a lot, but you're not like, Oh, this is a, you know what I mean? Like it doesn't really, I couldn't go to sleep. I went in my room and I'm staring at the ceiling and this overwhelming sadness.

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Yeah, it's true because it's random.

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And then the other thing is you just realize that there's just, there really are these streaks. Like in blackjack. you know, there's a shoe, the shoe, right? Like the cards in there and you can get a good shoe and you think it's like kind of you, but it's just like every, you know, you went eight in a row and you're like, dude, what the fuck? I figured it out.

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Do you know that NYPD released those images a couple days ago? And I'm just on my phone, and I see them. Yeah. You know, sometimes you just get the... People think you really... I'm just like, whatever. I put them in my stories, those photos, and I just put wanted, right?

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And then the next shoe, it's like eight losses in a row. And you're like, This fucking sucks, and you suck, too, to the dealer.

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I'm glad I don't have the... I enjoy it. I've had fun. I think it's fun when you're with friends and having a good time. But I don't have that. Thankfully, I don't have that thing that's like, I gotta go fucking do it.

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How was it? I mean, I sold a couple of bags, and I bought a million of them back in the day.

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So I went over to people's houses and watched them play video games. That's all it is. Sat there and, yeah.

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Yeah.

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So it was that, was that amount split amongst a couple other people?

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Was there a one incident thing that got you out of it or was just a gradual thing?

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This guy's wanted. You put up a wanted poster? Yeah, I put up a wanted poster in my stories.

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From somebody you knew probably? Yeah.

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That's pretty cool. What was crazy? It was breaking news.

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But you were mailing cash out to Cali?

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And I was like, he's wanted. So many people replied like, nah. That's like I'm not turning him in. Oh, I know. And I'm like, yeah, he fucking killed somebody on the sidewalk. And they're like, nah, should have offered a bounty for him. Fucking really crazy. The way that this murder is people going like, well, people are pumped. Yeah, it's really crazy.

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Yeah, I remember a couple of friends that were selling and it was funny because when you're in high school and getting into college, you know, you're talking about like an ounce here and the, I remember how it makes sense, but you get more brazen with like the longer you're around and more comfortable. And then one time with my friend, he pulls up and he's got just like QPs like on the seat.

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And I'm like, you're just brazen.

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Otherwise I would have been in jail.

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It feels like you're lucky that you learn these lessons without having to suffer the worst consequences. For sure.

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No, I know.

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It's good that you didn't have to go through that to figure it out. I know.

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How do you think you would have done?

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Isn't it crazy now? I don't know how many guys you know that have been to jail. I know a handful that are like, yeah, man, it's actually pretty cool. And you're like, what? And they tell you good stories, and they're like, I've got a good friend. We had some wild shit, but we had fun. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I'm such a... I wonder how it would affect your pre-diabetic. It'd be tough.

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You have to convert first. I think so.

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wow yeah so some studying you have to go in there like did the jews do 9-11 you have to be like no not at all like all right here's your fucking food here's your shawarma dude no we did not we did not do that and then like you're getting the diet that you want and they're like hey how come you're not doing daily prayer man

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Yeah. They're like, good. Good. Good. Really insane. Yeah, it's pretty fucking- And I know that that business is really brutal, and that company in particular has a horrible reputation. They do, yeah. But to just be like, good. To the guy dying on the sidewalk?

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I think you should mix it up on people. Dude, I like that. You do for real look like a totally different guy. Do you know what happened to me? I've told this story, but I was, so I was, this grew back in like eight days. Okay.

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I can't get a beard. Five days into this. So you can't really tell from this photo. I have just like some growth. Yeah. And I'm at the Lakers game. And at the Lakers game, I see Spade and Rock around here. So I go say what's up to them. And then it's halftime, so you go into this banquet-style room. There's food and drinks. It's kind of loud.

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But we're just sitting and chatting, just catching up, eating bullshit from the thing. And then Sebastian walks up, and he says something to them. And then he turns to me, and he goes, hey, Sebastian. And I go, what? Like, I know. He was just here. Like, I've known him for a year.

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And then he turns and he sits over there. And I was like, it's so weird.

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I don't put it together at first. Like, in the moment, I'm just like, what?

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Introduced himself. So then I'm like, hey, man. I say something to him. He's like, I can't hear you. He's like, not much further than you are from me. He's like, I can't hear you. I go, come here. So he comes, and then he just looks at me, like, you know, like dead in the face. And I was like, hey, man. And I just start talking to him. And he's just looking. And then he goes, oh, my God.

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He goes, Jesus Christ. I seen you with Chavin. I, what the fuck? He goes, it freaked me out. I fucking didn't know it was you.

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What the fuck? The other thing that you realize, too, is that the grays. Mm-hmm. they add years naturally, right? So you shave them off and you just look younger.

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It is cool when I tell people my age and they go, oh, I thought you were like 57. I'm like, that's cool. Yeah.

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That's real honest. Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming. Yeah, I shoot this thing next week, and then I'm going to start having some fun. I think I'm going to do a mustache for the rest of December. Oh, mustache would be nice. Mustache strong. I can see your face.

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It's like he was just checking his Salesforce early in the morning and just got... He's going into the meeting, like the big quarterly returns meeting or whatever it is.

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Yeah, he could have been like, you'll still be able to grow a mustache.

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Really important to tell an eight-year-old.

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Such an asshole, dude.

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I feel like we judge them so hard, the cleft palate people. Yeah. We really do. We're like, hmm, should you even be here? Yeah. Yeah, that was like, that's an easy fix now, right? The technology has improved incredibly.

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Yeah. You got that evil snarl. The snarl that like, it's also like, fucks up the nose a little bit and speech pattern. Everyone's like, hmm. Yeah.

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They must fix that right away. I just feel like they fix it right away. Also, the way that they fix it is more advanced than when we were kids. When we were kids, you would see it and be like, oh. But I think now you can deal with it.

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No, so was my first was like that, too. And he had two things. He had like reddish hair, which went away.

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And then the other thing is... Like, I don't remember if it was a month or two in. The top of his head, all the hair fell out, but he kept a horseshoe. What? So he looked 50. And it looked so weird. And I was like, I'd be like, yeah, I don't like the way he looks. This is my son? This is bullshit. I was like, what the fuck?

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and then it came back i was like oh thank god that's so if he just had like male pattern baldness just his whole life as a baby that would be so funny it's so crazy bro well i didn't know like um look at this it says cleft palate usually repaired with a surgical procedure called palatoplasty when a child is between 6 and 18 months um that'd be nice to give your baby like a strong chin too yeah you might as well just like fucking change his eye color and give him a strong chin

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They should start doing plastic surgery out of the womb just right away.

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I know.

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Do you have boys at all? Just girls, yeah. Yeah, I have two boys. It's funny because when you see a boy from birth develop, you just realize, oh, no, we're obsessed with our penises our whole lives. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they're always just like, look at my penis.

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grabbing it, and you're like, don't do that in your room. Yeah, don't do that.

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I thought, I would think so. But then I've had, like, I remember a friend who's like, you know, the mom, I don't know, it's all weird, but it said something like when, like, oh, I guess that didn't pass, that gene didn't pass down. Like, in other words, like the dad has a hog. There's a hog in there. But the kid just has a normal one.

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Yeah.

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That would be.

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You really are. Yeah. You're not going to be lazy. You're not just going to lay there.

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I mean...

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yeah well like being a president that'd be that's a disaster oh i was thinking of just like tearing pussies apart true just because i remember i worked with this guy he was a big fucking guy and um i remember i used to say shit to him like i'd love to see you fucking just grab a woman you know yeah and he was like yeah i was like i was like i know you got a fucking healthy hog on you and and uh he was like i go have you ever like like heard a woman he was like a couple times

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Damn. And it was Stitches. They had to get Stitches.

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She probably loved it.

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Then there's guys that want to give somebody Stitches.

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It's kind of fucked up. I don't think this guy was actually... I mean, you don't know, but I don't think he was like that. I think he was just a huge fucking guy. A huge hog, yeah.

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I think part of your brain has to go like, this is what happens. This is what happens.

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Before I forget, you can get tickets to see Matt at mattmacusker.com. He's on the road. And, of course, you can listen to Matt and Shane's secret podcast wherever podcasts are available. Never gets old saying that, does it? Right. Wherever they're available. Wherever they're available. Anywhere.

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I got this big old dick. It's a tuna can and it just stretches you out.

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yeah I uh but that is some women's like there are women who will tell you I don't want anything to do with that but there's still a percentage that are like yeah that'd be amazing yeah I need that I need that to feel alive yeah although I've heard I've heard some say and again I don't know if they're just kind of hyping me up but I've heard some women say like look man

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Just showing it off would be awesome. I think that's the part. It's the visual. The visual of it, everybody goes, wow, when you see something big. Yeah. Another part is living with it and having to use it. It's a different thing.

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That's what they're saying. How many deaths is this guy responsible for, right?

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No, no, like your relationship.

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Yeah, busted out right now. Guys all lie about... That's... You should never lie up.

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It's like, lie down. Nine is... It's bigger than you think. I would imagine, yeah. Nine inches, bro?

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Come on.

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he's good at his job he's good he's so good he's really good at it um people are talking about because i think we're gonna we're gonna learn who this guy is eventually because i it's i'll just be clear it's not me true um he's still at large but the thing is it's gonna be it's gonna be a he's smiling right he's got a nice smile he does actually look at that That's a nice smile.

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You know, one of the most, one time I went in, we were doing a, it was a business thing, like, I was working in post, and we were going to a different facility. And there was this chick working there who you could tell had just like ho energy and she was super flirty and like inappropriate. Right. And like, just like, you know, just real fucking kind of gutter trash energy.

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And so we were just whatever talking, she's kind of flirty. And then I don't know how this comes about, but she's like, yeah, I have this, um, where I can guess your dick size exactly. And I was like, really? And we're in this kind of flirtatious rhythm. I mean, the energy is like, it's fun. Yeah, for sure. I'm having fun with it. For sure. And I was like, oh, really?

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And I was like, well, okay, so then guess mine. And I'm just like, what's this going to be?

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And she's like, how about I draw it? And I'm like, what? All right. And so she takes a piece of paper and draws and hands it to me. And it is like a perfect oversized, just like a porn cock. Yeah. And I was like, wow, you're good at this. You nailed it. And then I got scared. She drew it hard or soft? It was... I mean, it was just like sides.

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And then I had so much fear.

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inside of me that i appreciate it no that like yeah that i was like i'm definitely gonna not live up to what she just drew and like i gotta get out of here like i gotta leave this building i was like almost like they're like now go into this room and show her and i was just like yeah um we should definitely hang out sometime and i was like i'll never yeah because let the mystery your expectations are so we were when i was in seventh grade we had like two of the hottest eighth grade girls just took it upon themselves to pressure people to see their penises oh my god

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Dude, it was crazy. And it was like, I was like, no. And they're like, we never seen a white guy's dick before. And I was like, uh. And so they- Wait, when was this? It was like last week. Yeah, it was last week.

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I was like, no one will recognize me.

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Damn, you were a schoolboy. They pressured you. Oh, this was college.

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All right. And they were like, we've never seen a white guy's dick. And I was like, okay. And so, I don't know. I was like, I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this. And then part of your mind is like, what if this turns into a really cool foursome? For sure. But the thing was, they were sitting on this couch. I would go in the other room and just start fluffing.

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You'd have to, yeah. Because I had so much anxiety that your body is like, ooh. Oh, yeah. So I'm just sitting there just stroking away. Yeah, I'm like about to jizz. And then I'm like, okay, open your eyes. And then I remember I showed it to them, and they were like, it's so white. And I was like, yeah, I'm white. They were like, I've never seen a white one. It's so white.

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So there was more about the color than the dimensions. Yeah, they were just like, I mean, yeah, I fluffed it hard, dude.

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I mean, I was tugging. Yeah, and they were just kind of like, well, okay. I was like, yeah, let me go get some from the other room. I just was like. Obviously, yeah. Yeah, and then one, it was like presentable. Yeah. Yeah, that's when I showed it. You guys can just come in now. And then I was, like, waiting, like, so who's going to, like, take it first? And they were like, no, we just want to see.

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Damn. I was like, oh.

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You know he got Starbucks right before, too. And he rode a bike out of there? Shit. Shit. What about your face?

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I had to be like, ugh. I've never seen a smaller version of my dick than at the doctor's office. That's bullshit. Like, I've told doctors, I'm like, it really gets better. Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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I've asked a urologist. I was like, what's the biggest dick you've ever seen? And they're like, oh, yeah, you don't forget.

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Because it is a just line of pathetic dicks that just don't register. And then every once in a while, there's just like some old guy just goes like. Yeah, dude. And they're like, wow. Yeah, holy shit.

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We don't see a hood on you. You got a nice smile. Yeah, he had Starbucks right before, man. But I think this story is going to be...

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I think it's awesome. There's a woman in the booth. What do you think, Niana?

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no that's what no what what's the answer it doesn't matter say it again it doesn't matter you're a good woman you don't stay with that one memory of that like that was that was the outlier fucking i mean there is an outlier for everyone yeah here we go here comes the truth yeah tell us the truth here comes the truth does so does he does stay in your mind though

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this obvious like with especially with those inscriptions on the bullet casings you know yeah I know that like it's gonna be some payback like revenge type thing for sure but which because everyone's like this guy's a professional you know like hitman you're like I don't like to do that but the thing that makes it seem professional is

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It shrinks.

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I definitely think that we are more obsessed with size. For sure. You want to see mine?

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Let me see that.

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All right. Well, thanks for coming. This was fun, man. It was a blast, dude. Thanks for having me. We both have co-hosts regularly. How do you keep it like, you know, mine's a fucking, how do you keep it fresh with your guy? How do you guys, you guys have a good dynamic.

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He's gone. You miss each other.

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Well, I think I would have to take that role because my buddy can't read. So...

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True. Okay. All right. Thank you, bro. Yeah, thank you for coming, man. It was fun. Make sure you see Matt on tour. Get tickets at mattmacusker.com. Of course, check out Matt and Shane's secret podcast wherever podcasts are available. Very important. And yeah, man, thanks so much for coming. Thank you, bro. Appreciate it.

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Bert and Tom, Tom and Bert. One goes topless while the other wears a shirt. Tom tells stories and Bert's the machine. There's not a chance in hell that they'll keep it clean. Here's what we call Two Bears, One Cave.

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is that his gun jams more than once when you see the unedited footage.

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Really?

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Yeah, and he doesn't panic at all. He's just like, you know, pulls the slide back. Yeah. Holy shit. Because most people, if you're like, I'm going to do this thing, and your gun jams. They fucking freak out, right?

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People freak out all the time when they go, this is how I would handle a home invasion. You're like, okay. And then it really happens and they fucking lose their minds. Yeah, dude. You freeze. You're done. But somebody who's just like composed in that, that does make you go, this feels a lot more personal.

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It's a big message.

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Well, the thing is, whenever there's an act of terror, people go like... this is not the way to do this, but the reason that people commit acts of terror is to get you to discuss and make their point bigger, right? And it's like, since this guy has done this, everybody is talking about UnitedHealthcare's policies. I know. It actually was the effective move.

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Well, some of them make you, I mean, like McVeigh, right, blew up the Oklahoma City and killed all these people. He's like, well, yeah, I mean, it was for a bigger purpose. What was his big thing? What was it? It was about, like, government. Type in what his motive was, because I think it was... Yeah, it was for handling the Ruby Ridge incident. Oh, that's what it was, the federal government.

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What's up, everybody? This is AI Tom. This episode was recorded before they identified the goofball who shot the UnitedHealthcare CEO. Stay proud, stay black. Burt is fat. Welcome to another episode of Two Bears, One Cave. My regular co-host is actually speaking at a Nazi rally in Ohio. And sitting in for him is the great Matt McCusker, everybody. Let him hear it.

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Right, but that didn't affect that. No one goes like, you're right, because you blew up this building. Or was this bomb too small? I don't know. It was a pretty effective bomb. It was a pretty big bomb. It was a pretty big bomb.

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You can get the original MP3s from Matt. And you guys are huge Patreon guys, too.

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Boston's aggressive with the tickets.

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I love that show so much, the reality show. It's so good. Fucking A, man.

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Did you have a giant dildo?

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I mean, that's also like a great kind of advertisement for Philly. Yeah. It kind of summarizes the city.

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Yeah. I think some of that is like, I mean, there's a culture to a city. I can't say it. I think weather is underrated. I think weather affects the shit out of people.

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I I've told so many people that I think all of us, if you do stand up, whether you see it this way or not, it doesn't matter. It's objectively true. You're an entrepreneur. Like your business is what you, your comedy and how you present it and everything, but you're a business owner.

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Yeah.

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Being in cold. And then like the hustle of a Northeastern big city is just a different thing. Yeah. Like,

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yeah there's and there's shit too like i just think of like entering build like holding a door opening a door and then in yours in some philly or baltimore and someone's like hold the fucking door man you know like that kind of like like that doesn't really happen

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here you know like that's just like a very regional thing yeah true new york has that too depending on the neighborhood yeah it's aggressive it is it is it is unnecessarily i think it's unnecessarily because i always whenever i go to new york i try to be like very very nice and try to like break the mold and it's just i've made no progress but i feel like so many new yorkers are actually so nice you can just get into pockets where it's the opposite

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I know, and then I was in Tokyo. How was that? It was amazing. That's what I've heard. I heard it's awesome. Best food I've ever had in my life, hands down. Everything was. Everything.

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What?

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Tomatoes. Lettuce. crab meat everything was the best I've ever had fruit everything was the best I've ever had that's crazy it was so it was so fucking good and a couple times I stopped random people looking for places and they stopped whatever they're doing to help you what yeah

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It's just that they are perfectionists. True. And so everything they do, it's like you find the places like the coffee place is like this guy has been working on how to make the perfect cup of coffee for 50 years and he does nothing else.

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Also, people take great pride in... that are seemingly mundane. Like the cashier is like proud to be the cashier. You know, things like that where you're like, it's just like this system of excellence. So, I mean, I'm telling you, like the first salad we had, we were all like...

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What the fuck?

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Really? It's known that you can obviously get Kobe beef and Wagyu as Japanese specialties, but I had a chef, my chef friend was with me, Philip Lee, and he was like, in the States, most of the time if you're at a hotel, The idea is if you want to get a good meal, leave the hotel. It's going to be a lower quality meal at the hotel. But in Japan, hotels have some of the best food.

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So we were in the lobby of our hotel. The place was like, I just want to get something to eat. And I had a sirloin. And I'm telling you, we took a bite. I was like, this is a top three steak of my entire life. It was all like that. Everything that we ate there was like that.

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And a funny thing about import is that obviously we want to have sushi. So the way that sushi works is that there's a fish market, right? And they... bring out like this is the top tier, let's say tuna, right? And then people can bid on it. And then it goes in quality, like quality kind of spectrum, right?

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So like the highest, highest quality stuff will go to like these restaurants, sushi places that demand that and command it. And then it works its way on down. Okay, the highest quality sushi that you can buy from Japan in the United States is too low for them to serve in Japan. What?

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Bert Choke Slammed Two Dudes | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

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Look how quick I ran to him.

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Bert Choke Slammed Two Dudes | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

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Let me look. It's WWE Raw, though.

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And you're like, okay. There she is. She's right. Look at her. Look at her. She's hot, dude. Japanese.

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All right, real quick. Don't even think about it. TD Garden. TD Garden. Muffla. Muffla. Fenway Park. Fenway Park. Car. Car. Carter.

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Bert Choke Slammed Two Dudes | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

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That's my favorite.

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Bert Choke Slammed Two Dudes | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

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Hey, hey, dude. Dude, let me suck your cock. Come on, let me see your little pecker. Hey, pull out that little pecker. You like that?

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Bert Choke Slammed Two Dudes | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

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Do you like Deep Throat, baby?

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Bert Choke Slammed Two Dudes | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

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Put it in me stinker. Put it in me stinker, would ya?

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Yeah.

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I don't think she should.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Pete Buttigieg on Trump Tariffs, Taxing Billionaires, and Republican Gays

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That seems like a big deal. I'm glad it worked out in the end. Good excuse.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Pete Buttigieg on Trump Tariffs, Taxing Billionaires, and Republican Gays

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What did you think about that?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Pete Buttigieg on Trump Tariffs, Taxing Billionaires, and Republican Gays

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There's always some type of loophole, dude.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Pete Buttigieg on Trump Tariffs, Taxing Billionaires, and Republican Gays

2185.428

We need to tax them. The cost of eggs are too high, bro.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Pete Buttigieg on Trump Tariffs, Taxing Billionaires, and Republican Gays

2753.783

How are the Jews going to get around?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Pete Buttigieg on Trump Tariffs, Taxing Billionaires, and Republican Gays

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Okay, go, go, go.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Pete Buttigieg on Trump Tariffs, Taxing Billionaires, and Republican Gays

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I did live on the Upper East Side, but I didn't live on the Upper East Side.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Pete Buttigieg on Trump Tariffs, Taxing Billionaires, and Republican Gays

2852.738

This is my bike. This is what we need. We need a subway on 2nd Avenue.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Pete Buttigieg on Trump Tariffs, Taxing Billionaires, and Republican Gays

2866.389

I went near it, and I was like, is anybody even there? I looked, and I was like, is anybody even there? Nobody's there.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Pete Buttigieg on Trump Tariffs, Taxing Billionaires, and Republican Gays

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We've been on a subway for 10 years.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Pete Buttigieg on Trump Tariffs, Taxing Billionaires, and Republican Gays

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Think about what it means if you get caught or accused of, like in his case, being mixed up with a foreign government and making policy decisions based on that.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Pete Buttigieg on Trump Tariffs, Taxing Billionaires, and Republican Gays

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People do not relate to this stuff right here, Pete.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Pete Buttigieg on Trump Tariffs, Taxing Billionaires, and Republican Gays

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He's so right. It's a stupid joke. It's a bad joke. There was never a second time you saw it.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Pete Buttigieg on Trump Tariffs, Taxing Billionaires, and Republican Gays

3355.643

The dudes are hot there, too. The dudes are good-looking guys. If you're into that look, I don't know if you're into that look. Ow, what's going on here? They're so good-looking.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Pete Buttigieg on Trump Tariffs, Taxing Billionaires, and Republican Gays

3365.528

Listen, this is crazier than building a fucking subway on 2nd Avenue. Who the hell is going to use that? Oh, gosh, you see? Oh, man. What I'm trying to say is if you go to Denmark, you go to Sweden.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Pete Buttigieg on Trump Tariffs, Taxing Billionaires, and Republican Gays

3784.688

Dude, there was parades in New York City.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Pete Buttigieg on Trump Tariffs, Taxing Billionaires, and Republican Gays

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We were like, our fucking center of New York City. That was the port of the game parade. They live off the east side.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Pete Buttigieg on Trump Tariffs, Taxing Billionaires, and Republican Gays

3906.485

Don't let them laugh at you. I feel like this is a facility to trains over here.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Pete Buttigieg on Trump Tariffs, Taxing Billionaires, and Republican Gays

4037.053

I'm just— I'm trying to infer— I grew up, I was born and raised on the subway.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Pete Buttigieg on Trump Tariffs, Taxing Billionaires, and Republican Gays

4042.698

I was born and raised on the subway.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Pete Buttigieg on Trump Tariffs, Taxing Billionaires, and Republican Gays

4055.625

Name one stop. I'll tell you what it is.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Pete Buttigieg on Trump Tariffs, Taxing Billionaires, and Republican Gays

53.333

And having, like... From doing that to his brother. Yeah, and like... Jesus, he just... No, I mean...

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Pete Buttigieg on Trump Tariffs, Taxing Billionaires, and Republican Gays

6505.656

We do need to talk about why every time the RNC happens, Grindr explodes.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Pete Buttigieg on Trump Tariffs, Taxing Billionaires, and Republican Gays

7252.843

It's not contagious. Is that what you're saying? Maybe he got me.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Pete Buttigieg on Trump Tariffs, Taxing Billionaires, and Republican Gays

8339.267

I'm wondering the same thing. I don't want them working overtime.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

1246.403

There's no fire in Ghana. There's no wind in Ghana.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

1754.097

Hop off his dick. That's fire. A little tap to the tummy. The ditty on Justin Bieber. That's fire. Yo, hop on his dick.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

1923.494

This is what we have to get women to understand.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

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Yeah, can you validate me first? What does that even feel like?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

1949.536

Go ban some smelt. You disgust me. The Delta smelt.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

1956.878

Oh my God.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

1962.232

I'm being dead serious right now.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

1990.165

There's no way.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

2046.85

I'm going to not validate this one. Yo, what? You don't think he was dabbling in a smelt? Yeah, that was that underage pun. Come on, Al. I don't think he was getting after that. You guys think he was? That smell. That's the Delta smell?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

2175.251

Yeah, they're just trying to land the planes and they just haven't figured that out yet societally. They were running on shangled roofs for 2,000 years. Then you come up with a plan and you're going to fucking land it? They can't even say Wright Brothers.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

2230.547

Coming around my house, telling me I can't cough in my hands. I've had these hands for 93 years. I cough in whatever hand I want. Right? That was crazy.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

2301.938

You gotta get the fucking tin foil out and wrap that shit around her underarms.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

3279.721

Well, you lay with it probably down towards the drain.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

3316.209

I don't do it, bro. Okay, here we go. Andrew did a lot of work. He took him out of Florida.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

3415.716

Like, are you having breakfast? Why is there even a part of it?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

3428.042

I need to know what sound she makes, bro. That's important to me.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

3486.346

And that pretty much works. She drinks scotch until you pass out and then fire off some gnarly email. What enema is that? That's a different purging.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

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Is that called destroy your family dynamic?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Oh, my wife, that's cool.

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That's the thing.

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There'll be nothing left for you. Can you hold your breath for two seconds? You heard it come out.

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It's like, ooh, she got to smell something.

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She threw a dagger at my face. I thought she was talking to me. No, she's talking to Mark the whole time. You're getting an email. You're getting an email.

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Yo, because she kept it a buck.

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That's what you just did.

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Cheating is enjoying it.

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Tell me more about how that makes you feel.

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The girls were sitting down drinking, depressed.

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I think we're the first to walk a stripper. Bro, she's on a pole trying to dance all sick, and then you just hear, I can show you. And she just left.

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Even when you're trying to get ahead of it, you're like, I have all the time in the world.

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do that to your friends also not just your wife oh that's a good point yeah i guess i do it to everyone every single person in your life it was so weird he doesn't do it to me at all that's crazy man what does he do to you bro the funniest part about mark is he gets really stressed about time like two days ago he's like i gotta film this episode it has to go out tomorrow whatever he texts me the whole first day he skips it the next morning he texts me and he goes meet at studio in 10 minutes we're both in bed like there's no chance you're gonna make it

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out your door, down the stairs, 10 minutes. And I was like, hey brother, how about we say we meet at the coffee shop in 15 and then we do the thing in 30. And you were like, that's what I meant. And I was like, dude, just do that.

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Oh, no, no. He got it back. Your bike is broken. Oh. And he needs to go get it fixed. Oh. So then he buys a new bike.

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Fucking sit. See what I have.

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It went unpunished. It went unpunished. Don't worry. Karma got him.

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Buys a new bike. So stoked about it. Literally can't stop talking about it. Everywhere you go, it's locked up somewhere. He'll walk by and go, God damn, whose bike is that? Like, he's so stoked.

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No, no air tag. Chain was made of like tinsel, honestly. Like the bike chain is so thin. Yeah. Got jacked. And then he went to the precinct. Like the cops show up, he gives them a statement, fills it out. Me and Mark are trying not to make fun of him and laugh the whole time.

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You got to call it heckling. Call it heckling, dude. Do people not have friends? I'm like, what do you do with your friends?

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Got in the back of a cop car, went all the way to the precinct to fill more paperwork out.

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That's crazy. And then later your wife goes, yeah, I saw a guy riding with a bike on the sidewalk. I thought that's so silly.

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We'll steal his other bike. Don't worry. I need more. Did he get a replacement or what? He's looking at it.

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Yeah. It's very possible it'll only be banned for several days before Trump just reenacts it. Just do a trade.

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I think it's such an easy win early for him. And I don't know if people looked at that because I think he's basically reversed on it. He's basically saying like, I don't know if we should look into it. Like, think about it. He loves his views on there. Yeah.

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There's only like a hundred thousand of them. And I think one of the big issues that they're running into right now is that they want basically Greenland's like empty. It's just a big, like beautiful, like untouched land. And their fear is that America is going to come and touch it. How would they think that?

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I don't know why they think that.

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Well, he's dead. You can have his spot.

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You want to say something, you just say it.

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It's called Ukraine, but for a long time we called it the Ukraine. That's just gaslighting. I feel like that's Mandela effect.

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She broke 1,000, and then there was just 57 people left, and she was like, ah, run it up, apparently.

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disrespectful come on a man is talking here a male embryo the embryo that is wanted and desired and cherished around the world yes okay anyway mark mark mark believes in anything we figured out why mark believes in anything can you share i believe in i give leashes to things okay i don't just believe i just don't believe in anything

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Why would you do this?

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Did you see she holds up the thousand? The Will Chamberlain? Yeah, the Will Chamberlain photo.

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Apparently Bonnie Blue is making, the girl who had sex with a thousand people, is making $700,000 a month.

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wow and she's doing she did a thing in november of 2023 where she went around to british colleges and slept with any student and if she could post it online wild different times man so i think it is that like polar you know like pull kind of thing wow 40 mil that's three and a half million that's impressive

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We'd be like, all right. I watched the documentary about the girl who did 100.

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there's a girl getting fucked you could get all the same information no i want to know the psyche about it and like i feel you on that what was she doing i watched documentary and then i read a bunch of articles about it and a bunch of psychologists were saying that she basically is using sex as self-harm like she had no idea what she was doing like cutting right Yeah, similar.

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Like, she basically is, like, using it as a form of, like, bodily... Mutilation. Thank you. And there was a guy, though, in the documentary, like, that they... So all these people signed up, and she didn't really have a full understanding. It was sort of fucked the way it all happened. She cries then. It's very sad. Yeah. But one of the guys wanted to be last.

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There's a guy who wanted to be last. Legitimately requested. He's like, I'll show up, but I want to be last. I was like, that's crazy.

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Nah. I've done that at a comedy show before.

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It was actually an article after I read that was basically like reviewing it. And yeah, they were just like, yeah, it's probably a pretty... It's self-harm. It's basically self-harm. And she really didn't do a bunch of research on it, but... Yeah. That's the review?

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I'm trying to get the full... 5,454 inches of dick. I did the math. Wow. 5.61 inches average times 1,057. That's solid.

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Yeah, how tall is that? Is that a building?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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So what happened? You would get out of the shower.

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Al, we've got to be serious about it. So you're sitting there, and your dad's just fucking beating away.

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He's beating away, and his elbow's just hitting the glass. He's making all sorts of sounds. Right? So his elbows bang into the glass, and then... Okay.

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Telling other kids what's happening. Shit, you didn't have a teacher to call CPS. That's crazy, bro. Yo. Oh, my God. We're European, bro. We're European.

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That's where you get the sucks from, right?

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We're back, baby! Yeah! Listen. We got beef. We got beef. Finally, we got a beef worth responding to. Finally. All these little peons on the internet talking shit. I don't give them no love, but this guy right here. What happened? What do you mean, what happened?

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Listen, if we're in a jail cell, Loki, if we're in a jail cell, right? And we're making sweet love, you know? Because there's nothing he could do about it.

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No, it's consensual sweet love. Because at a certain point in time, you realize there's nothing I can do. He's a pillow.

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Why are you going to jail cell for this? No, but I could use him as a pillow. That's what I could do.

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I could be like, yo, put your thighs at the end of my bed.

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I'm going to rest my head on it while I go to sleep.

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And there's nothing he could do about it. His people could absolutely destroy me.

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I'm not a tough guy. But Kendrick... Kendrick, it could be a, not even, I would use him as a whole body pillow. So I'd say lay there rigor mortis, but I'm gonna put like your legs in between my legs.

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Do you know how like pregnant women sleep? Like a waifu, that's your waifu.

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He's my waifu, absolutely, 100%. Anyway, no, no, I had a point that I was just about to make with this.

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It was a very serious point.

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You think I'm just talking about frivolous sex with Kendrick Lamar? Is that what you think that we do on this podcast? It's not frivolous sex. It's making sweet love. It's making sweet love.

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Buttercup. Only white comedians can make this joke, bro. I don't even know if we can't, bro.

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It is a new law. I don't even know if we can't. White comedians don't joke about fucking me in the ass. Like, I would have put that in the song.

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I didn't say I'd fuck him in his ass. Excuse me? I said I'd make him hold his thighs together tight, make a little pussy out of that. I'm not putting my dick where it doodles, Mark.

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That's disgusting. Make a little thigh pussy for me. Squeeze it tight. You know what I mean?

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I would do that. Put your legs up in the air, seawalk in the sky, and make a little thigh pussy for your boy.

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That's not gay. That's not gay. I need you like this. I need thigh pussy. Two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two. All right. Yes. This is sit down, be humble. Okay? All right, next. Come on. Come on. I'm just a good kid in a mad city. This is a good child in a mad city.

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It's fucking mad out here. Oh, man. Come on. I think you put the other A in it. That was good.

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Yeah, because it's really mad. It's really mad. Do you know?

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Yeah.

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Hey, man.

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Yo, no malice. We love you, man. We wish you best of luck with all your future endeavors. Best of luck on top. It's hard being on top, my boy. It's hard being on top. On top of...

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don't you do it don't you do it easier than being on bottom but i will say uh as far as that line goes we're gonna make fun of everybody and that's just the reality of the matter is everyone gets these jokes that's the ethos of the show is ethos of the comedy that we do and the second you start and he just might not be aware of it i don't know if he's doing it to sell records or if you do it because he just thinks it rhymes or it looks good or he's taking advantage of like a viral moment knowing that we'll react and knowing the internet will react

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But the reality is the second you make a group protected, everything else becomes racist. You're either racist to that group or you're racist to everybody else. And when you make fun of everybody, that is the one beautiful thing that allows us to kind of come together and laugh at ourselves and each other.

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I've been very fortunate to travel the world making fun of people of all different race, religions, cultures to their face. Everywhere around the world. Everywhere. And... They've had an incredible sense of humor about it. They are coming out specifically to see that happen. So it's not something that's ever going to change. And maybe it's something that he'll learn.

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And maybe it's something that he'll start to understand a little bit more. He might just not know really anything about comedy. I know that sounds crazy, but it just might not be his thing. And, like, he might just have that knee-jerk reaction, and he's just like, yo, this is wrong.

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Now I understand why he's doing a comedy with the South Park creators. Ah, that makes sense. Because he appreciates white comedians that make fun of black people. There you go. And they've done that brilliantly for decades. Yeah, that's true. And he would never want to break one of his own laws. No, that's true. I mean, didn't they have a character called Token on the South Park show?

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Yeah, because you never want, like, imagine the person in your friend group going, guys, guys, can we not talk about Asian men for a little bit?

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Like, imagine one of your friends saying that. He's not my friend anymore.

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He's not my friend anymore.

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No, we are killing that motherfucker for the next three months.

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Remember that time where you were gay? Yeah.

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That's where you say, remember you acted like a gay guy that time? And for three months, you're just getting destroyed. Out of the group shit. Yeah. Immediately. So you don't want to be Kung Fu Karen.

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and that is what ends up happening when you have this type of rhetoric now being on top is different being on top is much harder it's way harder to lead it's easy to conquer it's hard to lead so we hope you do the best with your reign and if it's deserved then it will be long and if it's not deserved then it will be short and you're the one that decides that that was very mature thank you very much shout out Drake though

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You know what I mean? Shout out Drake. Now, I almost feel like I should just say a bunch of things about Kendrick that aren't true to get it out the way now in case he tries to say shit about me. Oh. Like, you got to get there first. Strike first. Do you know what I mean? Okay. He's probably Al Qaeda. That's not true.

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Listen, because he called Drake a pedophile, you know what I mean? So it's like, I got to call him shit ahead of time.

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He's a terrorist. He's a terrorist.

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The life tour, the final show, Hawaii, Honolulu, December 21st. This is the last one. I can't believe we're even saying this. It's been almost two years of my life. Yeah, it's just unbelievable. I'm looking forward to coming back out to Hawaii. All the boys coming. It's going to be a wild time, man. We're going to make that show extra, extra, extra special.

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You know how much love we got for you guys out there, man. Yeah, I can't wait. The Blidesdale, the Bladesdale. We always say I fuck up the pronunciation, but you know the arena. Grab your tickets, and we will see you there very soon. Peace.

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Yeah, they do. Which I'm sure Kendrick is a big fan of. That's true. He must be a big fan if he's going to do a comedy with them. I mean, we can look that up. Apparently, he has a comedy coming out. Yeah, that's fact. But, but, but, but, Al, but, Al, Al, Al, you're getting groomed right now. We need to un-groom you.

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Yeah, it's interesting. So it's technically not a lawsuit.

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Technically. Oh, whoa. Technically, it's not a lawsuit.

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Hey, that don't make it better. Well, technically, that don't make it better. Well, I think the headline is like, oh, Drake suing Kendrick Lamar, which is not really true.

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No, he's... Headline is he's suing UMG. Yeah.

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Right. I think people commonly see it as, oh, he's suing Kendrick, da-da-da-da, which is technically, there's like, I don't know the exact terms, I can look it up, but basically like prejudicial, they're looking for documents. They're suing to get evidence. They're not suing, they're petitioning to get evidence so that they could build a lawsuit. To build a lawsuit if the evidence is there. Right.

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Against UMG, and his attorneys are basically claiming that UMG was effectively boosting... the streams on Kendrick Lamar's Not Like Gus record. And how would they do that? By basically giving it at a discount for the royalties. Can you explain how that works?

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So effectively, the way I understand it is that in order to run a stream, then whenever you do the stream from a platform, you have to pay the label. So Spotify would have to pay UMG.

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Yes. And then UMG sets the stream at a price. Correct. And what you're saying, or Drake is alleging, is that UMG gave a discounted price to Spotify.

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Correct.

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That made them play it more because it was more advantageous to them. They're like, oh my God, I get 30% off. Let me just keep spinning this song.

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Correct. There's other allegations that people within Spotify that, quote, had a perceived loyalty to Drake were fired. And so this was like an apparent effort to conceal the scheme. And then they also claimed that by boosting certain streams by one artist because there's a zero-sum game, that it also devalued Drake's ability to organically get streams.

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So because Kendrick's stream is getting much more play because it's zero-sum, Drake is getting less play.

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Now, this is quite interesting because there's another component to this. I don't know how true this is, but apparently Drake was in a contract negotiation with UMG. At the time.

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He had just delivered, I think, on his last contract, which was like $400 million. Yeah. And now he's re-upping. He's like, how do I get a $600 million contract?

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And UMG, I think, was basically like, we don't want to give you even $400 million. We want to give you less. Yeah. So I think he's alleging that they boosted this Not Like Us song. Mm-hmm. so that it could hurt Drake's stock so that they would have a better negotiation for his upcoming album.

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So, like, you know, an NFL player's had a great year, he's about to resign, and all of a sudden a video comes out of him, like, doing coke with a hooker. Yeah. And you could make the argument that the team holds on to that information, and then when it's time for contracts, they drop it. Yeah. You've heard this stuff.

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Have you not, you know, been listening to music lately? I've heard some. There's a pretty big thing going on. Huh? Yeah, between Kendrick Lamar. Laws were written.

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I mean, because he sent people, he said, slide on. What did he say? Slide on. Where's the line? Where's the line? He goes, let me get it. I'm so old, I had to squint my eyes.

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So that's, I think, that is... Now, whether this is true or not, first of all, I mean, obviously, suing in a situation like this, you lose all street cred. Also, like... he's being called a pedophile in the song, but didn't he tell Kendrick to call him a pedophile in his earlier song? Yeah. Yeah. He also... Wait, what do you mean?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Kendrick was like, okay.

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Yeah. For the record, also, Universal and Spotify have said that it's untrue.

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Guaranteed. Whatever they're doing for this song, they've done with Drake. They've done with all their artists. It's marketing, right? And, like, so he's alleging payola. He's alleging all these other things. There is an interesting argument here, which is, like, Drake really feels like this song isn't actually a hit.

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Like, he's been talking about bots, and he's been talking about all these things from the beginning. Yeah. I wonder if it comes from this place of Drake's never really heard the song out because whenever he's out, nobody plays the song. So I wonder if like he's a dude who's out. He's at the club. He's doing different things at social events. He's not hearing the song ever.

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And that was not a racist joke. Right?

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And I wonder if in his mind, he's like, I don't think motherfuckers are playing it now. It's delusional. Yeah. He's also heavy online. He's so plugged in. Yeah.

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But there's got to be some disconnect where he would even go bots.

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Okay, the N-words that coon, the N-words that being groomed slide on both of them. Whoa, that seems like a call to violence. It does. Why would he call to, if he's about protecting black people, why would the call to violence be towards the black dudes, not the white guy making the joke? Well, you gotta understand.

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But also true for every artist. So you just cry when it happened to you, not when it benefited you.

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But also the nature of it happening is slightly different. Him just promoting a standard album is one thing, but this is a direct album that's not just also trying to float, but actively aggressing towards him. It's actively defaming his reputation.

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But that is the nature of a rap battle. It's like if they boosted his Taylor Mates or Meet the Grams or whatever it is, it would also defame.

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I got a question. Is this their PR company, like a Drake PR company? Like I see this with Drake. I see this with The Weeknd. I see it's a bunch of artists. Every, every like few days, there's an onslaught of every Instagram page that's like about music has more or less the same post where it's just like, Drake is the number one most listened to artists and whatever. And they all have a

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different variation of the same post and it all comes out. And as I'm scrolling casually, I go, man, he's popping this motherfucker, whatever. But I wonder if that is a PR agency that it's their job to constantly push the narrative that this person is the number one artist. So that is a coordinated effort. Wow. I feel so stupid to just put that together now.

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Here I am thinking if we don't get a write up about something, Or if we're not included in a list or something like that, we're like, I guess nobody just acknowledges us.

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Because we're not paying a PR agency to constantly push the narrative.

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All the Instagram pages. Even old print magazines, I think people know. Like Sexiest Man in America. That's all PR. It's all paid.

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Oh, my God. But it's effective.

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It is.

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I wouldn't even call myself a casual. I'm pretty into media. Mm-hmm. And I'm being, I don't want to say duped, but I'm believing the narrative. I'm like, oh my God, this must be the biggest thing in the world. Here we are busting our ass on our own Instagram.

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When in reality, for way less money, you could just pay 20 other Instagram pages and then you'll feel like it's unescapable.

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It feels decentralized. Because you're going through it and you're like, all of these disparate things that have nothing to do with each other are all promoting the same narrative. And this is beyond music.

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So they got their agents or their PR company.

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is it inescapable? Inescapable. The inescapability of it, I think is the, is the greatest like motivating factor because when you see 10 things online, it feels like the biggest story. Yeah. Right. Like with, I mean, honest, what happened with the Kendrick thing? It's like you're online and you see every single post is about it. They're like, Oh, Kendrick takes shot at Schultz or whatever.

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And you're like, Oh wow, this feels big in the grand scheme of things. It's nothing. Nobody gives a flying fuck. But the perception... Wow. I know I must sound like an absolute retard right now, but if this works with... I was too.

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This works for like a random narrative around a rap song or a rapper or whatever. Imagine what they're feeding to us politically. Imagine what they're feeding to us culturally.

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Would you say decentralization? Yeah. That is where it becomes so effective. Yeah. When it feels like everyone around you shares the opinion, if you don't have the opinion, you go, I must be wrong. Yeah, you just automatically conform.

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Yeah. Bro, you wonder if Kendrick put that lyric in there because he knew you were going to talk about it? Of course. And then you were going to promote the album?

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There's a special to film. Hits you with a nice stylebender episode. Take that. Okay? But now we talk about it.

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He fucking got us. Goddamn. Goddamn. He's fucking smart, man.

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Yeah, but how many Easter eggs do we have in this episode that you didn't even realize? Dude, there's so many Easter eggs.

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Ooh, Kendrick fans, there's so many Easter eggs.

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Find them.

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Let's see if you can rewind it and find it. The total time of the episode was 366 seconds.

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No. Maybe a little bit here, but I think worldwide, no. I think it's smart what he's doing now. He's going to do a little tour in Australia. I thought that was really smart because the way that Kendrick timed this beef was brilliant. Yeah. Right when you finish your tour, I'm going to go to war with you and you have nothing to show that you're popping. Right?

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Because the beauty of having a tour is say whatever you want. Videos are coming out. Mm-hmm. That's reality. All this is chit-chat and comments online. That's reality, right? There's some people that said some shit about me online or made videos about me online. But then when we post the garden, crypto, the forum,

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The arena, Etihad Arena, the arenas in, literally the arenas Drake is playing in Australia were the arenas that we play in Australia. It's like, it's very hard to believe that when you're seeing the reality of people showing up. And I think Drake needs a nice win. Drake needs the, you know what the tour is called, I Need a Max Win Tour. Yeah, that I didn't think was smart.

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It felt a little desperate.

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The song was still fire. That's the thing. No one cared.

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It's really on that level.

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I might be biased, but it's on that level of whacked out murals. But what if Not Like Us had a thing about what jokes were funny? Then do you think it would have been just the greatest of all time? Greatest song of all time. You could charge Spotify double. We're still streaming. That shit would beat Thriller.

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Dot, fuck him up. Is that?

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That shit is crazy. No, listen, he's really good at making music. That's the other thing. As annoying as he can be, he is also very good at making music. Some of the stuff I'm like, okay, whatever. But sometimes you hear it and you're like, what the fuck? This guy's phenomenal at the craft of making music. So saying that somebody's using bots that's also really good at making music is...

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Wait, just let me understand what's going on here, because I think that you're using sarcasm as a comedic device.

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But you're so fucking smart right now that I don't know if you're serious or making jokes. Are you saying that Kendrick Lamar put it on wax that he is protecting black women from white comedians jokes, but not the kidnapping, molestation and rape? Oh, yeah, yeah. Of R. Kelly. And actually, in reality, he would take his own music off Spotify to protect R. Kelly? Yeah.

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care deeply what people think of. Fair. And they crave approval.

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And now for the first time in 20 years, Drake believes that the perception of him might be skewed. It might be he's a pedophile, or it might be he's... I don't think that people really believe he's a pedophile. Do you guys think that? They really believe that about Drake?

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It's a funny punchline, right? But I think that that really affects him. Listen, he is a performer. He's an artist. He does something in front of a crowd. We know a lot about that. We're affected by what people think about us. I absolutely am. And that's got to be fucking tough, especially when you've been loved by everybody.

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Because we saw that piece. That piece is real?

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That piece is real. No, that's aggravated assault. That's dangerous. Deadly weapon. That's assault with a deadly weapon.

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Wait, so you're saying you don't carry it like that? My shit gonna fit a little better. My shit gonna fit a little better. I'm gonna call Kenny my holster.

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No, but for real, I don't think he went there with it. And he needs to. That's where you need to go with it. If you're really about that life. CLB. Certified lover boy.

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Show us that you're a certified lover boy, man. Put him on your lap. Give him the popcorn. You gotta give him that pop, pop, pop. Stop sucking pop. Pop, pop, pop. No, for real, you got to give them that popcorn.

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If you're not willing to go there, you're not willing to win a battle. You're not willing to win a beef. Kendrick went there, called him a pedophile. You got to go there. Come here, little kid. Sit on my lap.

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That is the only one up.

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There's nowhere past that. Or Kendrick might be like, I'm going to suck it. Oh. That's the only way. And then they meet up. Then they meet up. And we watch. You deserve this. You deserve it.

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It will break the internet if we start it right here. They face off. What type of lube do you want?

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Mustard!

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Laws were written. Laws were written. I don't like him pretending he doesn't know what the fuck's going on. with his little milk mustache. It's just been pissing me off.

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We solved it, guys.

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I think we did figure it out. Everybody gets these jokes, yo. Everybody. Yeah. Everybody. And nobody's going to stop getting them.

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Okay? Absolutely. That's the reality of the matter. Maybe not my grandma, though. Can we stop that? Listen, we're going to... I actually...

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Someone who's kidnapped, molested, and black women? Children. Are you saying that he's done songs with other men who have potentially put hands on black women? Not potentially.

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This is what I need, bro. We can stop the joke somewhere. Please don't sing.

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No, there's some things we don't want to joke about. We can save some room. You can't. But you know, Kendrick talked about his grandma, too. What? His line in TV Off. Bitch, I cut my granny off if she don't see it how I see it. God damn. That's wild.

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Cut your granny off? Yeah. No, I would never cut my granny off. Even if she sucked out a thousand dollars.

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I've never cut your granny off either. No, you should cut her off.

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No, I'm not cutting your granny off.

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Yo, apologize to your grandma, Kendrick. God, that's law. You can't make jokes about your grandma.

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That's law.

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You can't make bars, I mean, lines about your grandma. That's what Kendrick sounds like. Do you think he realizes that's what he said? Hey, you're being mean to your grandma. Hey, stop that. No more of that, please.

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Come on.

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No, but for real, back to your grandma. No, bro. I think we got to put her legs in a diamond position.

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No, don't do that.

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You got to put her legs in a diamond. You got to put her legs like that. You got to put her in a diamond. And then you got to get up in between the diamonds. And then you have her toes go webbing and webbing and cross like that.

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to lock in no yes you do no that's law no no then you take her in a bounce house take her in a bounce house call up drake take her in a bounce house let's talk some sports dude yeah what do we got going on

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I think the coach said something that was... He said something about that loss. He's like, well, this is the hardest thing. It's getting your team back up to go do it again.

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It's just like, is it better play calling? Is it better line?

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I think we love these stories because there's always a little bit in us, this feeling like, if I was given the opportunity.

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But isn't there a little part of you that goes... That's because when the going gets tough, they have another level they can get to.

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There's a—I can't believe—I know people are going to be so excited when I make this analogy with paddle, but— I've noticed, you know, if we're playing against people that are better than us and it goes to like a golden point, I don't know if they do this in tennis at all, where it's like deuce and you just go, okay, whoever wins the next one. Oh, no. Okay.

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So I noticed we weren't playing with people that are better than us. It might get to golden. but they win every Golden. And that's because they have that extra level. And they just took their foot off the gas a little bit. We got kind of close. We think we can close it. It was like, no, they have another fucking level. And I feel like that's Pat Mahomes.

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He has that kind of Brady-esque composure where it's like, if you let him stay in the game, Late? Yeah. He's going to make something happen.

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Listen, they going down on it, too. I've seen a lot of videos of them eating mud pussy, bro. They literally put their head in the mud straight. Reverse.

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But it was tricky. Like, he was catching a screen, so he didn't really build up momentum.

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And the tackle was great.

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But yeah, Derrick Henry's still a problem. Okay. Yeah. And is this another one of these cool stories where the two running backs that could potentially break the running back record were guys that potentially were afterthoughts?

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These are the storylines you need in sports, I feel like, outside of who's going to win the championship. There's the who's going to win the championship, and then there's, like, the... The underdogs, you can't really call fucking Saquon Barkley, but these like personal stories where you can relate to them outside of them actually winning the final game.

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NFL knows what they're doing. I'm cool. I'm curious to see what happens once the Netflix games come on.

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Because to me, it's just... And I know people can do it because they have YouTube TV on their phone or whatever like that, but it just seems so much easier to open up the app and watch the game.

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The Tyson-Paul fight proved that.

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60 million households. Yeah. Insanity. It's just so much easier. I think that... It's going to be very hard to not open up your phone and just watch a little of the game. In the same way that now that the pay-per-views are one click away on your phone, I'm watching every single one.

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Whoa!

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If they're on TV, on their smart TV, first app I open is Netflix. And then that transition for sports, because sports was the last one. They're the last one that needed to, right? Because we're going to watch the fucking games no matter what. But if those numbers...

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What the bumba cloud is going on? Can't call out Jamaicans for something they're proud of. That's true. That's true. My bad. My bad. My bad. That's super racist. Al, can you speak on that as a Puerto Rican?

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uh prophecy show how you think that's good i've been watching it it's decent i think it's i think it's got two things going for him it's not as promoted as penguin penguin i go into penguin and i go i've already seen 40 instagram posts about how it's the highest rated episode on imdb so i'm basically like unfortunately when my brain is wired i'm looking to discredit

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Exactly. So Dune, I had nothing to watch, and I start watching it, and there's some line in the beginning that's like, and then women can figure out something. I'm like, oh my God, don't do this fucking forced identity politics bullshit. But the story's feeling Game of Thrones-y. It's an interesting world. They spent some money on the set design. The sets look... Beautiful.

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Like each literal world is drastically different. Very cool. They got good actors. Like I'm three Epson. I couldn't get through The Penguin. I tried. I could, just for whatever reason, I couldn't do it. I know I'm wrong with The Penguin. Everybody loves it. But this shit, I think they might got one now.

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Yeah, this is good.

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I think they might got one.

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Bro, I just found out about True Detective. What the fuck is wrong with you guys?

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First season, phenomenal. Why didn't no one tell me? This shit is amazing. After that, you know what? I watched the most recent one. I liked it. Really?

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Yeah, it's good.

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The one that took place in Alaska. Thematically, it's a little bit different.

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Who's in it?

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Oh, the lesbian, the little lesbian. Lesbian actress. Little lesbian actress.

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What's her name?

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Jodie Foster. Oh, she's a lesbian? Yeah, she's a lesbian. She's phenomenal, bro.

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The first one's still undeniable.

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You just started watching? Yeah, I'm on episode two. It's just... This shit is fire.

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Enjoy it. I didn't know what to tell me, bro. Enjoy it. Enjoy it. Enjoy it. You know what else is funny? Mark also just found out about Derrick Henry.

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On Thanksgiving, Mark and I were watching... Bro, I was watching football.

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I go, yo, go back to his college highlights. We're watching college highlights of Derrick Henry. And he's like, he's big. I'm like, he's good, bro. I don't know who he is either.

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Al, we have to protect you. They're trying to slide on you, bro. Whoa. They're trying to slide. This is nuts, dude. This is... And listen, you're distracting. Yo, that's their splish splash.

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You should look into this, though. This guy's wild. And then who's the fat quarterback?

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Jared Lorenzo. Jared Lorenzo.

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What's going on?

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Yeah, hefty lefty. I was showing him uniquely different sized players in the NFL. Bro, we started on season one of the NFL. This shit is crazy.

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Joe Montana?

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Come on, dude. Anyway, let's get back to the show, boys.

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Yo, shout out Joe Biden. Real one. Real one. Joe Biden. Finally.

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Finally. First of all, a lot of people are... Okay, let's just clarify some things. There are people that are annoyed by this. They're not annoyed that he did it.

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Because anybody in this situation is going to use their power to protect their son. Correct. Like 100% of the time.

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Would you pardon your child? Hells yes. Hells yes.

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Maybe not Akash dad, but.

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You think your daddy would pardon you though? I mean that. That's a good question. I think he would. But he'd charge you like 10% of the time.

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You'd be like, I'm going to stay right here because I don't want to deal with this.

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I think the thing that's annoying, obviously, is this idea that like Democrats pretend that they're better than Republicans. Yes. Once Democrats just be like, yo, we ain't shit. And also, don't get me wrong, Republicans also pretend that they're better, right? Like everybody has their own little grandstanding. They just do it about different things. I guess, yeah.

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But, you know, Democrats are like the Republicans won't respect the rule of law. You know, he's going to destroy. And I guess this isn't breaking the rule of law, but Hunter broke a law. And then he's using a caveat to get him get him out. But I think this is the annoyance of the Democrats. It is the hypocrisy. Oh, hypocrisy. Hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is the theme of the episode today, Kendrick.

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Okay? Is it on there? No, listen, no, guys, we gotta take this seriously. Listen, rappers are telling comedians we need to be more respectful to women, so we gotta really, we gotta sit back and reflect.

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Hmm. So, yeah. Yes.

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Yes, it is. Yes, it is.

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He's still watching. I know. Yes, it is. I think he tuned in.

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Oh, he's still, no, Kendrick is still watching.

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He's like, I was hearing about this Hunter Biden story. I will tune in.

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He wants to tune in. There might be some Easter eggs in here. You know, there might be some different things.

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He is a Patreon subscriber. Anywho, so I think that's the annoying thing. Nobody disagrees with the action. Correct. Mm-hmm. Or at least they shouldn't.

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It's a very small amount. What did he do even? Pardon his son?

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Getting his dick stuck with a Glock in his hand? That's a crime in America?

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What the hell happened? But what is he jammed up for? Who got his in?

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He didn't fill out a gun form correctly. He lied on it.

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Real talk. And I mean this sincerely. Do you have any sins? In my backpack, I think I do. David.

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Well, I want to know what's going on.

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I'll be catching everything, bro. Hold on. What's that one? My hands are crazy. Wow. My hands are absolutely crazy right now. Bro, your hands are insane. Bro, Kendrick at me. Okay. So yeah, I don't know. Your hands are crazy, but you can't open them. They're not strong enough. They are fast. Is it childproof?

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Anyway, can we get back to something that's really important? Because there's a huge beef on the internet right now that we really need to address.

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This one is strong. This is a strong one. Ooh, I can really smell that one. He also didn't pay his taxes. Who didn't? Hunter. But then paid them back after. I feel like you shouldn't have to pay taxes, to be honest.

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Don't you feel like that? Yeah, conservatives should be like, yo, this guy hates theft. Oh, sounds like we're on Hunter Biden's team. Yeah. He loves guns, hates taxes. Nah, shout out Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden's a conservative.

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He's a real conservative, dude.

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That's it. He 100% is.

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No, I mean, like, yeah, this is just it's the glaring hypocrisy. And you've got to let Republicans run with this one and have some fun.

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Just don't say it. That is the concern that people have, which is rules for thee and not for me. And that is the criticism of the Dems rules for thee and not for me. This is a glaring example of it. Republicans, you allowed to have some fun and dance on this one as much as you want. And Democrats, you got to eat it. Simple as that.

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There's not. I don't think there's another beef, but you don't know. This is the only one I heard people talking about. Can I ask you guys a serious question? Yeah. Because literally... We filmed a special this past weekend. Thank you guys so much for coming out. I really appreciate that. About to get into the edit, but yeah, you guys are amazing.

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Of course.

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That's his son.

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But he's tweeting like, oh, nobody's above the law. Don't say that. Just in general. Say nobody's above the law so far. Yo, say that shit.

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I wish Joe came out and said that exactly. Yeah. What would y'all do?

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What am I supposed to do? Tell you earlier? Oh, yeah, I'm going to break the law. It's actually not the law. You didn't do anything wrong. I'm going to bail my kid out just because I have a lot of power? Yeah, you're not going to vote for that. Maybe we would have. Maybe we would, though, actually. Do you think you'll pardon your son? Of course I'm going to pardon my son. I'm the president.

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I made him a part owner of a gas company in Ukraine. You think I'm not going to pardon him?

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No, this is so funny. The new, like, you can't trust the government, you can't trust authority, you can't trust it. Black people have been not trusting them, rightfully so, for fucking 200 years. Now white people are in on it, and it's like...

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Thank you. Thank you. Finally killed all of our leaders.

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Thank you. Thank you so much.

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We're gonna break that shit back. I mean, it just started. Did you watch GNX? Did you see the album?

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Team killed it. You guys were fucking incredible. But I Listen, I shut off my phone for the week. Like the week before, you know, Kendrick dropped his album, right? Yeah. Every black person that texts or calls me is like, yo, Kendrick just took a shot at you on the album. Every white person or Asian person or Latino person that calls me is like, yo, good luck on your special. Okay.

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Oh, no. Bro. Blindly trusting the government is a little racist, dude. Talk to me. Because you have all these people who are like, dude, the government wouldn't do anything wrong. And they're like, oh, what about Tuskegee, you know, syphilis experiments? And they're like, oh, well, they wouldn't do it to us. You know what I mean? Like, they wouldn't do it to those people.

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They're not gonna do it to white people.

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So what happened? They gave syphilis to the pilots? Yeah.

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So what was the experiment?

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It was done by the Germans.

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They had the greatest pilot that America ever had. They didn't lose one bomber in World War II.

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This American public school system right here, people.

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I'm just saying, the Red Tails had the greatest flying record in American war history. They didn't lose one bomber.

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There was white racists that were like, I'm not flying unless them black people jump in the air with the planes on their backs and protect this Palmer. Jump in the air with the planes on their backs. They were like, I don't think they can fly, but them motherfuckers can jump.

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No, but. And then they were giving them syphilis as well? Or there are different black people at the base that they were giving syphilis?

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so hold on i'm this is my body so justine is popping though so there's a syphilis black yeah yeah and then there was the red tails they were not military these syphilis guys what yeah no they were just regular oh my god they should have been in the military they would have completely avoided this i don't know about that

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Yeah, I think they were just sharecroppers down there. They were doing their thing and they were like, oh, we're going to do an experiment. We're going to give you some vaccines and stuff. They weren't sharecropping still in 1942. No, I think it was like some shit like that. It was like some fucked up situation where they were kind of working or something.

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And they were like, yeah, we'll give you... I don't know the exact details. Talk that shit.

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We've been telling you all this. Nah, nah.

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America's fire, bro. There's some bad people in it. Yeah, it's a bad home bridge, dude.

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A lot of migrants. There's a lot of migrants. It was probably the migrants that did that shit.

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Bad home bridge. That's a bad home bridge. But it might have been the migrants that did that shit. It might have been the migrants. We got to look into it. We got to look into it. Okay, but anyway, go on. And they were like, no, we're going to give you a little vaccine. They were like, all right, bet. Sure. And then they gave him untreated syphilis.

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And they were like, damn, they died from this shit. And that was the experiment. I wonder if they're going to die.

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But the idea was that it was going to protect them. No. No, the idea was, let's see how long it takes for them to die.

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Who okayed this? It was like a Mr. Beast video. We gave 100 people syphilis. You know what's crazy?

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What the fuck else are you going to tell me now?

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It's crazy, right? You're saying that America has a history of racism towards people of color? Is this what you're telling me right now?

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This news to me, right?

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Well, we got to stop joking around about it, man.

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Those guys. I think we got to stop joking around about them immediately.

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There you go. Yes, I know, but let's go on. Some of them got the ability to fly, and that's how they became the airmen. To me... It's like X-Men. To me... Everyone has an origin story. That is a pretty sick... Yeah, that good can come from bad. Good can come from bad.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You know?

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I mean, wow. And if you have siblings listening to this podcast, try a flight simulator. You might have amazing eyesight. You might have a superpower.

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So clearly there was a separation in who was, you know, indulging in his content. Okay. So I've been a little out of it, but I come out of the special and it looks like there's so many articles about this album. that are about, I don't want to take, you know.

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This guy's fucking good.

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sonic run really fast this is wild yeah i think biden fucked up the timing of parting his kid okay every thanksgiving presidents have to pardon a turkey and i think they bring out a big silver platter it's his son and he goes yeah

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Alright, fine.

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I guess I have to.

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Dude, last, I think it was last Thanksgiving, they pardoned this turkey, but we thought it was Mark's grandma's vagina. Stop it, bro. What the hell?

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What the fuck are you even doing right now?

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Can we blur that out? I mean, it's like, is there nothing sacred, dude? This is my actual grandmother. I made sure I got family, dude. What the fuck?

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She's an American hero, man.

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She's an American hero. You gotta respect those vets, bro. You gotta respect the vets. She actually met one of the Tuskegee Ear. Oh, she sure did. With all due respect. Why you make that so sexual?

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Damn.

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Show the red tails though. I don't think that we talk about them enough.

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Yeah.

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You thought they were similar some time ago.

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JB Vance.

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JB Vance.

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No, the guy from, anyway.

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Nobody can. No, I can't.

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I can't even name Red Tail. It is a real shame that we can't name three. They got a couple movies.

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They did get a couple movies. And they didn't lose a single bomber. No, they flew the P-51 Mustang. Yes, they did. But not at first. What were they flying at first? Something else.

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version of fighter oh they didn't give him the good no they didn't give him the good shit then they gave him the good shit the p51 mustang they gave us the chitling that we turned that shit fire that's true you guys are pretty resilient we're good yeah wow we're good wow miles it feels like you want to contribute something miles is chomping at the bit tell us a fact about the eye of

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Technically, they lost six bombers.

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No, Mark just slid in a hell of a joke. What'd you say? What did I say? I'm not... Come on, is it an Easter egg? This always ends on me. It's an Easter egg. Give us an Easter egg.

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Come on.

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Yo, facts. Of all the women he could have brought on stage, a beautiful black woman he could have given that opportunity to. And no. What did he do? Brought up a crackress.

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brought up a cracker to just scream the n-word on stage a cracker that's fucked up oh my god i feel like i can't even say that that's crazy cracker yeah that might be that's too hateful that might be your shit well that's all kendrick is doing bringing cracker is up on stage to scream the n-word at his shows and he wonders why so many white people show up it's like a lotto that's the moment wow they're like damn it's not the trump rally what happened

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All right, man. Look at these heroes. Shout out to them. Shout out to them, man. Let's get a couple names because we got to commit this to memory.

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Let me get some. While you're doing that. Oh, we got Lee Archer. Lee Archer. Eugene Calvin Chatham. Benjamin Davis Jr. Gene Derricotte. Okay, okay. We got it.

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If you give us too many, we're not going to remember. Bro, some of them have sick nicknames and some of them have really shitty nicknames. Okay, give us the sickest nickname. All right, so some of them are like Captain Martin Easy Julian. Sick. First Lieutenant Joe Lightning Little.

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I'm just saying, I'm just saying. What a time to be alive where rappers got to talk about comedians for clout. God bless, dude. Like, we are up right now. God bless. The biggest story about the album, outside of the album and people enjoying it, was a sub at a comedian? Yeah. And you don't even got to say my name and it still makes headlines? It's crazy. You're welcome. You are welcome.

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Ray Ray gun Gannon like those are all fire this guy's name is a flight officer Maurice bumps Wilson hey yo he was part of He might have been in both. First Sergeant Coffee Coleman. Like, some of these suck. Oh, coffee. I think coffee's kind of cool. One was Bag of Bones.

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What else we got? That's crazy. Mark's grandma was part of the... Stop. Stop doing that.

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She was Battle of the Bulge. I have family that are war heroes, I think, in World War II, by the way. You know the guy that puts the flag up at Iwo Jima?

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His last name is Daniel.

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No way. I thought he put that thing in your grandma first.

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But wait, you mean the fake time?

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Oh, shit. Oh, shit. No, the real one. The real one, bro. They faked it. Nah, they didn't fake it. There's a whole movie about them faking it. Oh, you're going to believe every movie, bro? Come on.

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The first hour is trash. Okay, that's why. Horrible. I'm sitting there with my wife. I'm sitting there with her gay bestie. And I'm sitting there with one other friend of hers. Horrible for the first hour. I'm like, what the fuck did I get myself roped into? They do the scene where like, what's her name?

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Ariana Grande's like finally ends up like trying to not be a shitty friend to this girl and actually protecting her and feeling bad that she was, you know, kind of pranking her. I didn't stop crying for next week. Really? All right, stop crying for next week. All right, I'll give it another chance. Ariana Grande and this girl- She's fantastic, dude.

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Cynthia Erivo are absolutely, and I went in there going, this is going to be ass. Why am I watching this dumb ass shit? They are sensational. Really? I'm doing- Ariana Grande? I expected the other girl to be absolutely phenomenal because she's like a trained Broadway actress. She's probably one of the best actresses if you're a Broadway actress and you get this opportunity.

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Do you know what I mean? Because they're the most pious group. Listen, nobody has respected women more. You threw art, damn rappers, okay? So I completely understand how a rapper could look at a comedian telling a joke and be like, yo, y'all need to switch that shit up. How dare y'all keep saying your wives are annoying?

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So, and she blew me away. Yeah. But this Ariana Grande, my expectation was lower because I'm like, okay, she's a very talented singer and like pop girl, but can she pull off the comedy? Yeah. Her whole role was funny.

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It was, I cried for two hours. Yeah. Two hours straight. That's so many tears.

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That's so many tears.

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That's a long ass movie.

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I thought it was three hours and it's only part one.

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She wanted to play Elphaba. Yeah. And then she ends up playing Glinda.

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How many views did I give him, you think?

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The director, the guy... Oh, fire. Choo or something like that?

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John Choo, right? He directed Parasite. I think he directed the... Oh, I didn't know that. He also did the... What's it called? The thing that Mr. Beast copied. What was it called? Squid Game. Squid Games. He did... Wait, no, but... I don't think that's true.

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No, that's another...

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Wait, what? Another guy. Oh, that's true. He directed Crazy Rich Asians.

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A good chunk. A little chunk. Yeah. They stole our mustard shit. Couple million bucks. They stole our mustard shit. Take the honey off.

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Yeah, he directed Crazy Rich Asians. He did that one.

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He did G.I. Joe. He did G.I. Joe.

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He also did that in the Heights.

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But no, he just happens to be Asian. Wait, what? No, no, no. I'm pretty sure he's the same guy.

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No, no, no. But in all seriousness, the guy that directed it, I thought this is something that I thought he did really well. This is based on a play. Yeah. Or like a musical or something. He shoots it and there's a lot of like dancing choreography that feel like a musical. Yeah. but it's clearly a film, right? I don't know if I'm describing this right, He could shoot it just as a film.

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And there is no musical aspect where like the whole town kind of jumps into dance and story. They all kind of connect together. You know what I'm saying? Like you could just take the narrative seriously and run with that. But he incorporates what you would imagine the play is, I thought very well, without it being too forced.

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So I thought that that was a really, and like kind of cool camera stuff. Like he almost feels like everything is on a drone. Did you watch it? No, yeah. The cameras are, I need to like see the rigging for it because the cameras are moving through the world and moving through all the people dancing. So I don't know if they're on like a kind of train track set type of thing.

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We've been doing honey mustard for fucking years. Okay. They hop on that dick riding.

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Or if it's from the ceiling. It could be a cable cam. It could be that. It could be an FPV drone. It's cool. He did In the Heights. Oh, so he's used to doing this. After Step Up, he did Bieber's Never Say Never, his big music doc.

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I think he directed Ronnie Chang's special. I think he did Ali Wong's special also.

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I don't see that at all.

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He did Ali Wong's special. There's a Hello Kitty campaign.

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He did do Ken Jeong's You Complete Me, Ho. He did that one. That is true. And he also did Thai Cave Rescue as an executive director.

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Everybody has to start somewhere.

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That is actually true.

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Goddamn.

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Of course he listens. Because he specifically, I think, was reacting to, in that Shits and Gigs podcast, which I think they're reacting to, I said something. I asked them if they dated black women. They were like, oh, we date all women or whatever. Yeah. And I was like, yeah, okay. And then I go, Kendrick fans, get him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's all it took. Yeah. That's all it took.

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That shit is incredible.

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It's incredulous.

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I'm curious how they got the rights to this.

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But like this completely changes The Wizard of Oz.

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Yeah.

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So if I'm the person who wrote The Wizard of Oz, I'm not going to let a motherfucker write another movie that is before that completely changes the entire meaning of my life's greatest work.

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Rewrite the Bible, and you're like, Satan's misunderstood.

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They wrote a sequel to the Bible. That shit goes way harder. Sequel? The sequel exists based on the information that you laid down.

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The book is public domain.

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Ah, that's why, because it was so many, it was like 100 years ago or whatever. And then Gregory McGuire wrote the book Wicked, and then he made it into the book.

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So we could do our own fan fiction of the book.

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We could make another version of Wicked. Wicked. Sort of.

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Wait, what do you mean? It's not public domain. Fuck.

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She was a war. Exactly. She's not riding a broomstick in this one.

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Wow.

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Twice the play, twice the movie. No, once the play. Wow. Okay. Between us. Have you seen The Wiz? No, I haven't. Oh, that's... Wow. Come on, bro. That's the Tuskegee Airmen. Wizard of Oz. Dude, we gotta do a prequel of The Wiz. Let's do The Wicked of The Wiz, dude.

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That'd be fire.

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What is the Wiz? Is it different than Wizard of Oz or is it just Black Wizard of Oz?

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Black Wizard of Oz.

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I know that we mentioned earlier, but I just want to say thank you so much to everybody who came out this past weekend for the special taping. Thank you so much to everybody who worked on this special, not only just this weekend, but like...

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developing putting this show together like making my kind of vision and dreams come true and that is dove that is mark that is cheryl and rob that is vala beautiful videos you put together shifty i just thank you guys so and the million my wife and my daughter and um who play the you know integral roles and if you guys have seen the life tour you know um so yeah i just want to say thank you guys so much and it was just an awesome experience to see all those people out there man

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say again oh Derek Poston of course oh my god but uh so yeah and tons of other people I'm just not even thinking about right now so thank you guys so much for being there and it was it was really cool especially with everything that happened with the venue and like the city just still coming out and supporting me on Thanksgiving weekend and uh that just felt great and yeah yeah it just felt really cool now is the hard part now we got to get into the edit obviously yeah yeah yeah but um

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And now Kendrick want to talk some shit. Yeah.

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And just filming a special is just so interesting, like of this size. You know, we've only done things that we've done ourselves before. And this is the first time where we're like, okay, we're stepping it up. So in order to step it up, you have to hire companies. Why do you have to hire companies? Because there's all this minutia that we don't worry about when we're filming a show together.

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We're throwing up some cameras. We're like, all right, we're going to go and edit together. When you're doing something of this size, it's like, Okay, we need to make sure we have releases for everybody that could be on camera. We need to make sure that we have the union signatory signed off and the scheduling and timesheet. So you basically, you're hiring out these different companies.

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And I thought an interesting thing that happens when you're filming it is you have to be super diligent about what you want and your vision because each department that is working on it, the interests aren't exactly aligned, right? Obviously everybody wants there to be a great special, right? And we have like, for example, we have the best audio guy in the business.

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Thomas Cassata is the best audio guy in the business. Hands down, it's not even close. And Thomas is telling me certain things that will protect his audio for me. He wants me to have the cleanest audio. He's like, if we mic you too much, then you could be higher mic'd than the crowd. And we want to make sure that that mix sounds good.

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He got some slappers on there.

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But if we mic me too little, then I won't have enough control of the crowd, you know? So he's trying to protect the best version of his audio. Thank God we have someone who understands what we want as well. But I can imagine someone who doesn't know stand-up, who's just recording a special, is going, oh no, we got to keep the mic down because it's going to fuck up the show.

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my audio, not realizing what the crowd needs. The crowd needs you to fucking hit them in the chest. Same with video. Video wants it to look beautiful. You know, one thing I think that a lot of times people make mistakes for in a special, they'll do what's called a line cut. I don't know if this makes any sense, but essentially they're doing a live edit of the special.

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I went there trying to hate, and then I listened to it again this morning, and there was a few. There you go. Crazy, spooky, scary, hilarious. I love Lefty Gunplay, so anything he's on, that's fine.

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Trying to edit standup live is like catching a fart with chopsticks. It's not even possible. Like, because you would have to be so fluent online. in the comedian's material and timing in order to build tension, build tension, then release it. With comedy, it's not like music where you can just cut through a bunch of different angles and make it look epic. When you do that, you distract.

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It's kind of like horror where you've got to build, push in, push in, build, build, and punchline, release. If you don't know exactly when I'm going to release, you're fucked. So it's like... But in their mind, they're like, okay, let me make this shot look really cool. Let me make it look so beautiful so I can offer value to this project.

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Everybody wants to offer value, but sometimes they're offering value isn't what's going to be best for the project. So you need to go in. Thank God I have the fucking ride or die best team on the fucking planet who are like, this is what we need. And we need you guys to understand this is what's going to make the project the best. And just articulating that and really fucking dialing it in.

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It's just an interesting thing. I think that like, especially comedians, if they're listening to should be really, you should be really connected to your project. Don't just go out there and film it and think it's going to be okay. Cause it won't because most people don't understand standup. Even if they've done specials, they just don't understand what makes it good.

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And I think you get into these situations where you're with these people who have done tons of specials. And at first there's like a little bit of, you're a little deferential to them. And then we had kind of had a moment where just like, hold on, hold on.

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That whole song is crazy. All the samples are like unreal. It's a good album. Motherfuck you, though.

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Yeah, we posted things on YouTube and Instagram, but we sold out Madison Square Garden twice, selling posts, posting things on YouTube and Instagram. We clearly know what we're doing. I don't know if there's anybody else who sold out the garden without having a network special. So it's like, I'm not going to belittle what we did because of the platform was YouTube. Clearly we know what we're doing.

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And it was cool to have that

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team together where we're like this is what we want we're all down alright guys I know you think you guys know what you want this is what we need trust us and it was even cool to go from Friday to Saturday like we made our adjustments from Friday to Saturday and just to see it become our show by Saturday you just introduced so many other creatives you know what I mean like doing shows on the road it's just like you are the single creative vision if you're a comic doing that

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But then as soon as you're filming, it's like, okay, we're introducing like wardrobe creative and that might be different than how it normally is. And then the visual creative, the sound creative, there's tons of other creative that get brought in and they are all fighting for their personal agenda to be fulfilled.

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And they're all also talented in their own right and successful. And I like to look at them thinking altruistically, they want it to be the best and they trust their talent to make it the best. So it's managing that, hey, I know that you think that this is what's best for it. we think this is what's best for it and let me die on my sword. Because there's one thing I cannot live with.

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It's your decision being wrong. I can live with mine. Yeah. You know what I mean? But I'm not going to live with yours when I told you I want something else. Yeah. You know? And I just thought it was so fun. Like there's this great moment like Friday and even going into Saturday where just like our internal team, like our fucking people, everybody was just on the same page.

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It was just like, this is what needs to be done. And you were there Friday and you were there Saturday.

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And it was like, everybody just stepped up. Voices got loud. Everybody got stern. And I think... everybody started to realize like, oh, these aren't like a ragtag group. Like they know what the fuck they want. And yeah, it was just, I felt really grateful. I'll stop talking about it, but I felt very grateful to have all you guys there to back up that vision. And it gave me a lot of confidence.

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And yeah, I just want to say thank you.

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Thank you so much. But also thank you, you've empowered your team throughout, you know.

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But I don't like him threatening the violence. I don't like that. I don't like him telling people to slide on you. I'm a civilian. I'm going to the cops too.

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I mean, I trust you guys implicitly. I was just like... I was like, yo, Shifty, Mark, get what you need. And then they got what they needed, bro.

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It was just... All of it looked beautiful, but I'm confirming what you're saying, but no, it was exciting. It looked

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And you know what's interesting is they have these things called RoboCams, right? I saw the fire. So this is fascinating. RoboCams, like automatic cameras, we've seen them on the road in certain venues. They just kind of look and move like a security cam footage.

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This was the newest version of these RoboCamps. We only had two up. I don't know if I'm ever gonna film a special about RoboCamps again. They're a little cylinder. They could be anywhere in the room. And you don't even notice what they are, but the movement now, digitally, it's like, it is, the push-ins are better than somebody racking focus and pushing it.

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The movement on them, and now you don't have 14 different people. Not only do they move, not only do they move up and down, they're pushing, like they're moving on different axes, only taking up a fraction of the space.

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P-T-Z. P-T-Z.

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No, they're really expensive. But, you know, prices will come down. That eventually is what happens. But like a perfect example is like I told them this is my note always when we're going to do like a live show. I even tell Shifty, I go, nobody should see a camera. If people see a camera, they get nervous. They're like afraid to just react. They're just thinking about themselves.

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And the best comedy show is people get to leave themselves, right? Yeah.

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and um the first show all of a sudden i'm up there and there's this camera almost called a gimbal meaning it basically but you guys know this but i'm describing people at home like it balances the camera perfectly so someone could walk with it so he's not holding it on his shoulder it's this mechanism that perfectly balances he starts walking down the aisle i think he's gonna get one shot and then leave he's walking down the aisle for like 15 minutes i just stopped the show

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But my feeling is like, yo, Kendrick, I feel like Kendrick is talking all his shit and for whatever reason, we just letting him talk all this shit. We decided we love him right now.

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And I go, you need to get the fuck out of here.

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I can't not say something about that. Yeah, right, you gotta go.

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Perhaps you get up here immediately.

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Yeah, you stay exactly where you are. So it's just one of those things where it's like, and this is like, the video team was pitching me all these cameras that would like come backstage and point out backstage. I go, guys, the second the audience sees a camera stick out backstage, they're gonna be petrified. Now, would it look cool? Sure.

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Has anything been funnier because it looked cool in the history of comedy? No. You know what's funny? Chris Rock's bigger and blacker when the cameras are literally shaking because they're on sticks and the ground is moving. To me, the grittiness of that is just beautiful. I go, guys, I don't want anybody to see a camera. Capture the fucking show. Make them believe it's just a regular show. And

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I think that is like the number one most important thing.

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The most important thing you can do is make it look like this is just a regular show. Honestly, I wouldn't have even announced Netflix taping if we didn't have all the issues with the venue and all that other stuff. I would just be like, hey, here's some shows. Come on out. But because you want to capture that kind of authenticity. And I hate being a fake on stage. Yeah.

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And having cameras walk in and me not see them or something popping behind me makes me feel like I'm fake to you. Because you know that you see it. I know I see it. But we're both pretending it's not there. So, yeah. Just cool things to learn. And maybe if anybody's watching that's into comedy or producing comedy, they could take something from it.

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We have a date that we're kind of locking in, but I want to get through everything.

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Yeah. Black History Month. No, but yeah, I think it'll be really fun. I'm just very grateful for the team and very grateful to everybody who came out. And there's this feeling that there are people there who've probably been at my first fucking show I did at Gotham. Crazy. They were at that. And there's a feeling like...

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So much in comedy, the beginning years are you winning over people who are skeptical of you. You're doing a bar show and they're like, how did I even end up here? Yeah. And this is people going, hey, I've been fucking with you for 10 years. I want you to fucking rock this tonight.

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And that is an awesome feeling that I hope all of you guys get and other comics get too. That is pretty cool.

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Anyway, thank you so much.

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Like he's trying to get people to storm the Capitol a little bit. He's trying to get people to go to Al, get people to go to Sharla. That's dangerous rhetoric out there. It really is. Stand back, stand by.

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Bro, shout out your mom.

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That's fire. Do you think she was surprised by him being like, well, I'm going to go?

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Yeah. An apology is free. A month in India is probably a couple thousand dollars at least.

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You're paying for it.

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Okay. That's wild. I mean, specials. That was awesome. And then just like first Thanksgiving with the little baby. Yeah.

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So what did you guys do?

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What was your Thanksgiving? We just snuggled up with the baby. Literally, it was just like rainy outside and I just like took him for a walk. At least he made some turkey.

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Stand back and stand by. He's not even saying that. He's saying get up in that ass. It is crazy. But I need Kendrick. I need you to do it, Kendrick. You want to squabble over Kenny? No, no. I mean, here's the thing. This is the thing that is kind of funny about it. It's like, first of all, Kendrick's people and the gang affiliate, everybody in his security, they will kill me. They will destroy me.

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I'm the first one. Yeah, they both came. Me and Miles go for so many walks now because I take a little baby for walks. So I'm like, I just been like, hey, I'm going to go out for two hours. I just call him Miles and we just go for a little baby walk. Wait, does he also use your baby to pick up chicks? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I did that with my dog. Miles, who was that girl that you brought to the special taping?

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I'm so thankful that my best friend lives down the street and hired me over. I got to cook a little bit.

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That's not good. Wait, wait, now you don't make out anymore? No. Why is that, you think? We just don't. We sort of made a decision not to. Whose fault do you think it was? Mine.

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Yeah, Dub, I saw you with the fucking tens out there.

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I tried, I tried, I tried. Hey, I tried. You're a good friend.

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I didn't know what to do. Bro, it was so funny. Every person would come by and be like, yo, Miles.

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Damn. You're a really bad guy. That's fine. Can I tell you guys a funny Derek Poston story? So, Derek Poston. Shout out, Derek. We love Derek. Motherfucking goat. Derek is... Derek... We're at the special, right? And... Matt Damon came to the special. I know that sounds like I'm like doing like a brag or whatever like that, but yes. And so he came to the special.

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Now, Derek is the biggest movie buff fan. Like he's not even a movie fan. He's like a movie aficionado. Like in the way that people like cars and the way that people like love wine, he loves film. Like he is entrenched in it. He loves it. And after the show, I was like, hey, let's go down. You know, you say hi to Matt or whatever like that, right? They're in a room. We go in.

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And Derek walks in the room and then stands next to Matt, right? And then out of nowhere, paparazzi flashes start going. They are fucking blasting. I mean, like, Matt's like dazed. Like, he has no clues. Boom, boom. And in every picture, Derek's just like...

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He's got his hand on his shoulder laughing and chumming it up. Go to Derek's Instagram right now.

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I had to tell the photographer, I go, okay, guys, I think we got it. Afterward, Derek goes, he goes, Schultz, I'm sorry, man. I had to get a pic with the Martian.

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It's brilliant. Go to the caption.

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Me, Andrew Schultz, Matt Damon. Two, me, Schultzy, and the Martian. Three, me, and Good Will Hunting.

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They'll find me in the street. They'll fucking cut me up. They'll shoot me. They'll do whatever. I'm not a tough guy. Y'all will do it. But just Kendrick. I would make love to him. There's nothing he can do about it.

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nah it was just so cool it was funny it was just so yo matt's funny i always want derrick to tell the story but like uh before before the show starts either dove or derrick goes up to matt they go hey man you want to do a few minutes and matt goes no no i'm good you said it no no i'm good and then uh matt goes to derrick is you going up and derrick goes yeah he goes i will and matt goes i will be silently judging you and then just walks away

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Derek's hero. So Derek got to go open a special. What? Was he serious?

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That's funny. No, he was dope.

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That was great. It was very cool. Thank you. A lot of people came out, showed love, man. Just all the family, all the boys. Like, yeah, it was really great. Great, great weekends, man.

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So that was the thing. It was like the day before the film special. Yeah. And, you know, you're on baby duty. I guess this is the greatest thing is like, so Thanksgiving, Shiloh starts teething. Oh, wow. I don't know if you've experienced teething with a baby. It was a really difficult thing. They've never experienced this pain and this consistent pain for a while.

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So they just don't really know what's going on. They're like a little cranky. Eating is hard. Sleeping is hard. Everything's just difficult. And we went and we had Thanksgiving at this restaurant, Teresi, and it was just amazing.

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And we didn't want to do it in the house because I'll be honest, I was like, it's going to be a whole day long thing and I might need to prep and I don't want to leave you alone. Like it was just, so let's just go do a restaurant. And it was awesome. It was great. We came back and Shiloh starts crying. And we put her down. She wakes back up, starts crying.

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Put her down, wakes back up, starts crying. And it's like 11, starts crying, 12. And Emma is a trooper. She's in there. She's locked in. She's trying to, at like maybe 12 or one or something, she comes in and she goes, hey, she just, what do you think we should do? She's not telling me to do anything. She knows it's the big day tomorrow.

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I'm like, all right, let me see if I could, let me see if I could just get her down. She's like, no, no, no. I know that you gotta do your thing. I was like, let me see if I can get her down. And

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i go in there and i start trying to and she's every time she she's crying so much that she starts like hyperventilate a little bit so even when she gets ready to go to sleep she'll be about to pass out and then just go because she's still catching her breath right and it was one of these moments where it was like um a really cool reminder where it's like, they don't care about any of that stuff.

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Your special doesn't matter. What you do in your career doesn't matter. That's not important to them at all. The only thing that matters is you're there for them.

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And it was like a cool moment, like a cool dad moment where it was like, am I really going to go do this special about how much I want to have a baby and all the trials and tribulations that it took for us to get this baby and then abandon my baby and You know, I make things bigger than they actually are. It's just my kids teething. And this just happened to be the night before the special.

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But in my head, I was like, this is one of those moments where you decide what's more important. Is it more important that I get a little more sleep so that I'm rested? Or is it more important that I'm like there for the baby? And so I just gave Emma the baby.

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no no so i fucking got her down and it was like and she woke up a few hours later and emma you know you know took care of it but it was a cool like reminder yeah that none of this stuff matters to them yeah and we got to be aware of that 100 yeah that that they're the most important thing and everything else is no longer priority no matter how fucking big it is and uh

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I'm very, I am grateful that that even presented itself on a night of that importance. And I made the, what I think was the right decision, which is fucking lock in. That's beautiful. Yeah. It was cool.

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This is about physics. It's about physics. I don't even know if I'll get hard. But if we're in a cell, there's a chance that... If we're in a cell and we're bored and we done tattooing each other whatever you do in the cell and we ran out of board games and we did all the other things and we cleaned everything and I'm like, man, I might as well fuck you.

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But that's fine. You guys, your relationship is good and building.

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We all are. But he pardoned you.

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just that guy he's a new yorker yeah yeah yeah it is it must be crazy for our parents to see these things yeah like to see us sit down with a present like i'm like i'm trying to wrap my head around that like one of my cousins goes that was real i was like you think i made that up i'm a fucking loser do you think i am But that is, like, you want your kid to do well. You want your kid to succeed.

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Like, you have all these, like, hopes and you want them to have friends. You have all these things. And then they interview the president of the United States of America.

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Like, there's got to be a little moment of, like, extreme pride, regardless of the politics. You're like, whoa, like, I made that thing. Yeah. And they're talking to the president. Yeah. Driving a fucking future car. Like, crazy. Yeah.

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yeah oh that's wild yeah it was cool yeah i'm even thinking about that with my kid i'm like think thinking about the fact that he's gonna do things in life like blows my mind like it's like hard to like wrap my head like you have a job because you just see him as such a baby right yeah it's like you're gonna do stuff like you're gonna like impress me like it's just like it's hard to like because like he's already doing it on little scale but like as i get that adult human he's gonna do stuff which is crazy think about like when they'll know how much you love them

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I always think about, like, I don't know when I realized how much my parents loved me, how old I was. I never was like, they don't. I mean, my mom a couple of times. But like, as an adult, I go, what? Jamil said something to me. He was like, He's like, did you never notice that your dad was the only guy that came to our basketball games? And I was so used to him showing up.

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You don't notice it until you're out of it. You know what I mean? Like a fish doesn't notice water. Yeah. You're just surrounded by it.

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But that was the thought I had. I was like, I hope you never notice it.

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You know, be more like us and, you know, bitches ain't nothing but hoes and tricks.

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Like, I hope you just think this is what it is. Yeah.

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It's funny. The better you are at your job, the less they're going to notice.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like... The more consistent you are, the less you notice.

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Yeah. Yeah. It's... Oh yeah. I don't know. The whole Kevin kids thing is just awesome. It's like, it's awesome to see her, like she'll like, you know, fall or hurt or something like that. And then like, just reach for her mom. And it's, I think it's nice for Emma to see, cause it's so often she does all this where she breastfeed the baby, she's up with it.

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And then I come in and the baby's just like, you're funny. Let's party. Yeah. And I think there's a part of Emma's like, what? How the fuck she loved it? She's saying, she's saying dada and all this other stuff. But when she hurts herself. Yeah. It's like, where's that woman that always makes me feel good.

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There's nothing he could physically do to stop that besides put his legs in the air and choose a position.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. There's all these tiny little rewarding things.

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Yeah. No, I think it's awesome. I think it's awesome. And I think it's even like just that story of like right before the special, like sacrificing for your kids. Like, I think it's just like a good reminder. I think sacrificing is like fundamental. Like I think like suffering for like things you love, I think is like intrinsic to loving them. Yeah. You know what I mean?

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I think it's harder to love things without suffering for them. And I think we so often get caught up in this idea of we need to mitigate suffering at all costs. I think it kind of needs to be embraced for the things you really love.

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I was talking about someone else who kind of struggled to get their wife pregnant as well. Similar situation as me and Emma. And they were still in the process. And I go, there's a weird positive that comes out from this. And it's like a lot of people did get their wife pregnant without even knowing. It's like this baby has been thrust upon them and they have to like organize their life.

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And they're like, fuck, are we ready? There's all this like concern and insecurity. And when you have a little struggle, as you were saying, to get there, when you're finally met with the idea that that baby is gonna come, There's fear of you fucking it up or something going wrong, but there's not fear of it happening because you've already come to grips with this idea of it not.

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So you're so grateful. You're so excited. It's a different energy that you approach it with. And yeah, it's just really cool. And yeah, I agree with you, Mark. It should be hard. The things that are worth it are hard.

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When are they easy? I think it's like a biological mechanism. What do you mean? I think it's built into human development. By suffering, you end up growing closer with things. It's like the army, I imagine. All these guys. A football team. Suffering together draws people closer together.

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Your child is in pain, and then you're nurturing them, and you're exhausted, and you have huge commitments the next day, and you're also suffering. I think it's like a bonding mechanism. Through that mutual pain, you guys get closer.

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I mean, I'm sure that's like the hazing thing with fraternities a little bit, right? Yeah. Like induce this kind of fake suffering. So these people bond together and really feel like they're part of.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I think it's good. I don't know. I'm like, I try to be grateful for like the moments of suffering like that. Like it sounds masochistic, but I think it's like core.

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It's a good perspective to have. You don't resent it as much. Yeah. Yeah. Miles, did you have a good Thanksgiving?

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That's unbelievable. Yo, I'll be honest. I would go so far as to say I don't think he could stop most people on the planet from having sex with him. Like, the only reason he got security is to stop people from having sex or whatever he wants. Now, don't get me wrong. There's people who can fuck me against my will. I was in an elevator once with this drag queen, and this motherfucker was like 6'5".

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I had a great Thanksgiving. Any funny stories? No, I got to make food, which is sort of fun. What'd you make? Usually Mark's wife handles damn near everything we've ever eaten. I think Mark and I have never made something for each other or for ourselves around each other. Mark's wife handles everything. And I got to make little things.

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I don't know, like gravy and put the turkey back in because it wasn't done. Like little things. It was sort of fun to be a part of that. No, I do want to talk about Mark being a masochist a tiny bit.

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What do you mean?

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Mark's been on this masochism shit like way too heavy and then also got me on it recently. Talk to us. So he's like, yeah. Did this start with the Shackleton? Yeah, I think that technically... Shackleton was a symptom. It's all part of it. No, no, no. Shackleton, I really... It's all part of it. Shackleton, I think if we go back in time, will be like the actual point. That's the breaking point?

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Yeah, but... No, Mark was just talking about like this in a very loving way about his child. And I think that's all beautiful. And I want to take away from that. But also recently said to me, while we're both fasting, he goes, soon, dude, you're going to fucking enjoy the hunger pangs. Like when I get them, bro, when I wake up with them, I go, oh, what a day I'm about to have.

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And I'm like, oh, you're a fucking full blown lunatic. That's great. And he's got me also fasting with him.

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How long do you fast? Like 24 hours, 36 sometimes. Anything over three days, I don't think you get like a ton of benefit. You got a problem. Yeah, I don't know about all this.

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I got to give some pushback.

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It's great. It's built in every culture. It's built in every religion. Fasting is fundamental. I also think we eat too much as a culture. We love to consume. No one ever feels hungry, even though for most of human history, we've all been hungry. I don't know if that's true. Why? I feel like there was just fruit everywhere.

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I beat my bitch with a stick, what? You can lick on the nuts or suck the dick. I beat my bitch with a stick, what? Did you just think of that? That's a real lyric. Oh, wow. Yeah, that's a real lyric from music that protects women.

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That's partially true. Whenever you see monkeys, it's just like, all right, let me get this persimmon.

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They're not really hurting for food. No, I don't think they're starving. But going for multiple hours without food, I think is pretty typical. Specifically without proteins. I think you do that when you're busy. Yeah.

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And I think we were just busier back then.

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You're having hunger pains.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Hunger pleasures. Yeah, you get hunger pleasures, bro. I don't know. That shit is nice, dude. And then you get to kind of break through in your brain. Or sometimes you use a sauna, cold plunge, you try to fucking force your brain through it. The only freedom is discipline, guys. Just remember that. Yeah, I don't know. Insert the anorexic line. I probably have an eating disorder.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Mark has an eating disorder crazy.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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But now Miles is on it. Oh, nice. Now Miles and I, we do it together, suffer together.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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He's texting me every like six hours. And Mark has never texted me more in his life. He's never responded to a text in my life. And then the moment I start fasting, every three hours, he's like, how you feeling, brother? We're in this together. The pain cave is nothing.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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The pain cave is nothing.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Pain cave is great. Did you go deep in your pain cave?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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I'll believe in it.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Check it on your boys, bro.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Going into a pain cave is nice.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Don't get it. I've done it every single year since I've been 13. It's fast for 25 hours. And it's not hard.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Yeah, it's better than some. He's making a good point. We're all on our path. Pain cave is real. I can do ice baths. I can fast. He can't do that shit. Andrew Kent did no pain cave for Andrew.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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But I think if there's a communal element, he could be down.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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He's going to tell the community, I'm cold. I'm tired. He creates a podcast to tell everyone how cold, hungry, tired he is.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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And we're in the elevator, and we're going down. I'm like, yo, if he wanted to take it, I got to cause a ruckus or something like that. Like, I got to shit my pants. I got to do something. I got to shit my pants.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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If it's like, hey, we all cold plunge for five minutes. We all get like 10 grand. He'd be like, yeah, I can stick it out for the squad. He can't do it.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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i'll do it for the group for the group he's got it's not for me i won't do it but for the group i'll do it because for him he'd just be like yo fuck this shit i don't care exactly but if i'm letting down other people that would affect i get that you don't understand there's he can't do those three things he can't do everything else just you know what guys everyone for all we crushed up today he is

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Andrew's the best. Andrew's the best. He is so much better than me now. Oh, wow. He can't do an ice bath. He can't fast for 25 hours.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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That's great. He just finds a new thing. He just can't.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Yeah, the water's tough. That water is tough.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Ramadan, yeah, one day. Why? I would do one day every year.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Yeah.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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As-salamu alaykum.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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You went Sharia? I went as-salamu alaykum.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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This household is Sharia for the day. We were Sharia for the day. For the day we were Sharia. This was during COVID. Oh, that would be awesome. I think that would actually be a good bipartisan bill. Which is? A Sharia day. Everybody goes, no, men would support that. And so our Muslim immigrant friends, they feel connected to the culture. Boom. And then we all get to see the beauty of Islam.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Response, Drake Lawsuit, & Netflix Special Taping

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Thank you. Sharia Day, one day a year. We need Sharia Day.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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I got to do something to stop him. I enjoyed it.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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1,000%. Because I've realized they don't matter the price. They're going to complain eventually.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Yeah, complaining fast.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Whoa, that's a good idea. A complaining fast. You're not complaining about nothing. An emotional fast. Exactly.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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I have no clue what they're into. But I know with Kendrick that he's talking a lot of shit. But if it came down to it, I could put him on my lap. I could feed him a bottle.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Response, Drake Lawsuit, & Netflix Special Taping

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chanel remember that yeah no the price don't matter and it makes me go there's diminishing returns truly yep truly if i was like a card would mean so much more yeah but then you gotta write that yeah go pick yourself something out go pick yourself something else i don't gotta write this card

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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This is what your dad did. He was like, an apology would be easy, but flight didn't do it. He had no money. So our dad is still crazy, bro.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Wow. Guys, one, I just want to thank you guys so much for holding it down these last few weeks without me. I really appreciate it. Of course. Shout out for holding down the Patreon. Shout out to all the patrons, man. Thank you guys so much. From what I've been hearing, you guys have been killing it, so I won't be returning a patron. No. I'm back. I'm back this week.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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But I appreciate you guys so much. Thank you guys for crushing it. And yeah, this is awesome. We got to do this edit, but now we're in our pod bag, man. You know what I mean? You mean paddle bag. We're in our paddle bag, but we're also in our pod. When the tour stops, that's when things get interesting. That's when we end up in Morocco randomly. That's when we end up in London randomly.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Response, Drake Lawsuit, & Netflix Special Taping

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That's when things start cracking. So I think we got some stuff up our sleeve. We'll see what's happening in the near future. Hell yeah. I'm very excited. Anyway, thank you guys so much. We love you. We appreciate you. Kendrick, we love you, man. We love you. We love you. Love, love. Hey, it's a real love. It's a real love. What? Al? I'm going to take Kendrick to Wicked.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Response, Drake Lawsuit, & Netflix Special Taping

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I'm going to take Kendrick to Wicked. I'll go a third time. For real. I think we should take Kendrick to Wicked. That'd be fun. I'm going to dress up as Elphaba. Okay. What should we dress Kendrick up as? The munchkin guy?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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No, the munchkin. The guy who married Bach. That's Bach. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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The guy that marries Ariana, you've seen her play twice. Stop acting like you're not a homo.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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The guy that marries the one in the whip. I don't like you acting like you're not a homo like us.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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We all homos. We're dressing up as wicked. We're taking Kendrick with us. What should we take him as? I don't know. Fuck. Whatever the fuck he just said.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Response, Drake Lawsuit, & Netflix Special Taping

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I could feed him a bottle and make love to him if I wanted to. And there's nothing he could do about it. I might not be hard. Dick might just slap soft against his butt.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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He could be Deadman the goat. Oh! Yo, you know who the goat was? Yeah, it's our boy. That's our boy. Dinklage. Dinklage. Oh, hell yeah. Listen, y'all, we love you. We appreciate you. We'll see you next week. Peace. God bless.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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You don't have to fuck him, right? No, no, no, no. We're not doing acts of physical violence over here, bro. This is an act of sweet love. This is an act of love. Oh, you're a pacifist. I'm saying I could be romantic with him and there's nothing he could do about it to the point, like, I think I'm so charming he would just fall into it. Yeah, you know what I mean?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Like, I think he would just be so charmed. He would be like, damn, like, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Black people come together. So we need to figure this out. We need to figure, like, the only thing he could do is, after I was finished, like, write some words that rhyme together about it. Oh, that album would be fire. That would be a go. Oh, my God. He could make some calls. He can make some calls.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Yeah.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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You want to talk about another album called Damn.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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779.726

Sit down. Reincarnate. Ask how penetrated.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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786.787

Listen, but in all seriousness, we love Kendrick Lamar, our woke king. And I think we're going to do our best to abide by his. I don't know what his rules are about like me having sex with him if we're in a room together. I don't think he would want that. We don't know.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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There is a chance in five years he would make another album. And the song about this is going to be sensational. is gonna be absolutely sensational.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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And for decades, protects what, and listen, listen, right now the guy on top, Kung Fu Kenny, he is the guy on top. He is the guy on top.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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He's gonna have some bars for you at the Super Bowl. I mean, the irony that he's like, we need to protect women, and he's performing at the Super Bowl, which is literally the Super Bowl of beating the shit out of women, guys. This is the problem. It's like, when you're on your way up, nobody looks at your hypocrisy, because they want you to be on the throne so bad.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Naturally, human beings, we all have this. We look at the number two, and we're like... I see myself in you go out there, go get it. Once you're on the throne, all we see is hypocrisy. It's like Joe Biden with his son right now. Yeah. Right.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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It's, you know, it's anytime the person is in power and clearly Kendrick is number one right now, anytime he's out there, we're now we're looking back at what he's done and we're like, Oh, oh, you're this woke guy, but then you really do shit with people that are completely inconsistent with what you say you care about.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Maybe you're just using this as an identity to feed your narcissism, and you can't just go out there and be a complete narcissist, so you're going to masquerade as an altruist, someone who protects the community, but you only do it when it benefits you, when you put out an album. Where's all this love for black women when Kamala was running for president?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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That's the best thing you could do, Kendrick. Yo, I don't know who Chelsea is.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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He is making sure, he is making sure that comedians, he put a law in, he put a law in place. All right, let's see the exact line, okay?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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That guy is scary, stupid, hilarious, or whatever.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Just say he's scary, and I don't know, I don't even know who he is. I never even heard of his comedy. I don't know anything about that guy. That was for someone else. That bar was for someone else. I think that's the smartest thing that he could do. Yeah, he don't want that. What you don't want to do is say my name.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Say my name three times, I'll feel like Candyman.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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That's fast. What rhymes with Schultz, though? Like, that's so hard to put into a song. Electric bolts. Oh, sick. Oh, that could be sick. That'd be kind of cool. Yeah. What other things?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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John Smoltz.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Lou Holtz. Whoa! This rap shit is low-key easy. Here we are thinking they're some geniuses.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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They're just rhyming some words together. That is true.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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And making shit up.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Yeah, it's not that hard. Do you know what I mean? Mm-hmm. Fuck. Go back to talk about Drake, how he's a fucking deadbeat dad while you do songs with Future.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Response, Drake Lawsuit, & Netflix Special Taping

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Are you going to make a commitment to not making any more racial jokes? I'm going to make a commitment right now that if Kendrick wants to squabble up, I'm tongue kissing him.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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You don't have to do that.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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What the hell? I was like, you're married.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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What the fuck? What voice should I make him sing in? What song should I make?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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don't let no white comedian talk about no black woman that's law now technically speaking if we're going off of grammatic english okay he's saying i can talk about black women and uh don't let no white comedians talk about no black so he's basically saying all white comedians are only allowed to talk about black exclusively that's what i'm talking about it's a lot finally he understands it's a law

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Why Women Want Effort, “Girl Bosses” Ruined Dating, Samay Raina & Ranveer Allahbadia Controversy

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Go there and suck his dick. No, please don't suck my dick.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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Did you feel that way as well? I didn't know when the switch happened.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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He's doing a stadium show where he'll have a B stage in the nosebleeds.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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He treated the MSG like it was a club because it wasn't even like the normal end stage. This was like a mix in the room. And then he did it with Skrillex.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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He did one where he was at, I think it was at the Hollywood Bowl, and he got all the people that came to his very first show when he went to L.A., and it was like 200, 300 people, and put them in the Hollywood Bowl in one section and did a private show for those 300 people the day before the actual event.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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His L.A. Coliseum show, he created, like, this LED moat around the entire bowl of a stadium so that everyone had a seat. And then did the B-State show. He's a man.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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Finally! Get the funny camera on him!

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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Wow. How long is it?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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That's crazy. That's a long time to be the best.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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Like everyone tuning in to see you.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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Like what he said when he was here. He was like, oh, yeah, I'm going to try some new stuff now, yeah. Like, I'm looking forward to that.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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Is it going to be like when you get back in the clubs after the tour? Yeah. When you're done doing arenas and you're like, you still want to do good. Yeah. Like, we can, you know, we can fuck around a little.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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Jelly, you've been blowing up. I want to hear about all these stories. I know some of the experiences you must have been having are crazy.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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You did that one time.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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Wait. Multiple times?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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What about Amsterdam when they didn't have a bathroom in the whole backstage?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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A little paper waste bin. Oh, yeah, it peed behind the stage, right? It was like they had the fake green room that they built inside the arena thing, but there was no bathroom. So you just had to rip in the trash can. And then after the show, you went up to some poor woman and you're like, by the way, that trash can's got to go. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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Full pee. Like going down the leg as they're playing like the intro video for me. And I remember just like taking the pants and like rubbing it into one another like that. Trying to dry it.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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Peeing in the pool versus peeing into the pool.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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You would do that? Eli. You're not going to do that. I would.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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As often as you pee, you're not going to do that.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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You're not going to pull every five seconds. I don't swim very long, guys.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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Now, but now they got the stuff that you put in the pool and it changes colors when you start urinating. Is that real or is that just somebody coming here and that's just not exactly.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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You know what the bummer about having a dribble is?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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You can't just get up now. You've got to be here for the little dribble. I've got to spackle it up.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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Listen, the worst part of this podcast is going to be when I have to stage with shit all over your ass and head. What are you talking about?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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But he was in his green room.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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That's kind of nice, actually. I've done that.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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Wiping with a smooth leaf? Because it can't be too smooth or it's not going to grab.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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I need grip. I need grip. I need it to be like a skateboard.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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We had a neighbor that did that. He's actually from Tennessee. Really? He is from Knoxville, and he got poison ivy on his hands. I swear to God, his wife came out of the room like two hours later. She was like, my breasts are burning.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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I'm not lying. She's like, my breasts, I just don't know what it is.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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We gotta do an episode of Hot Ones, bro. We need Hot Ones with that.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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Can you transfer it to other people?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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I think it is immune to a lot of poison.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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But sometimes it does collect little things, though.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

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Like, you know, like little stickers and stuff? It collects little stickers.

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Yeah, there's jewels. Oh my God. If you let it go too long.

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Yeah, we might need to.

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That'd be kind of sick. That's why you just got to go commando, bro.

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I had a bidet for years now.

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Oh, must have. George Harding made the first port-a-potty in 1960.

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Yeah, but they just... Oh, that's a good point.

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Well, I don't know if they had a port-a-potty.

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Give it up for our dear friend, Jelly.

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You feel bad for the Fyre Fest guy. He's like, I went to prison for this. And the Woodstock guy's got the greatest documentary ever. What the fuck?

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Yeah. Where is it? It's April. Coachella is the first week.

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And then the week after it is. Yeah. And then hold on. There's a fun little thing. T-Pain, Creed, and Backstreet Boys.

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Wow. And like seeing that like Saturday of stagecoach, that's when everyone is there. It's like, that's a Jay-Z, Beyonce main stage.

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I didn't know you could do it like a science. That seems safe.

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The girl's in control of it.

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There's going to be shit stories that come up.

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I need him to tell that Leo story.

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Yeah, you've got a guy to give away your money.

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We're married for that. We don't need people.

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Yeah, that is a problem.

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We need a guy to stop her from giving it away to Hermes. She thinks Hermes is a charity.

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I think he like grew up in Egypt too or something. Like doesn't he have like Christian missionary parents or something like that?

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When was the last time you tied one on? When was the last time you really went for it? SNL. Oh, really? Of course. Late night?

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Beautifully broke. Real quick.

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I'm fucking shaking.

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And he was like a handsome, he looked like Billy Crudup.

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Can I say just about his show without spoiling like what the show entails? One thing I'll say, and I was involved at the show, it's a stadium show in an arena, which I think the last time I made that comment was when we saw like Travis Scott, but just in terms of using the whole room where I'm like, you'll be at MetLife doing this same thing where there's multiple stages.

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There's, there's the runway that you're on. And I'm like, this guy is using it. And it's not only that we've seen enough shows at MSG. Now we can compare it's, you could just play up against that end stage and you're just seeing a concert you're blocking, like meaning like you're the positioning that he's going between songs.

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And when he's moving around these runways to the audience, like the entire arena is changed. His production is changing. Things are lowering the, the, the, the skull, everything was just so perfectly planned that you're like, this, this guy has done this for, for years. And he wouldn't waste like to do that level of production. You can't, you can't cheat that.

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like that's something where we can now keep on adding it you're probably part of the production you told us how many trucks you have coming into that but that show if anyone could see this on the road 23 spectacular and not to give everything away but let me give everything you're all in store we'll cut whatever but i didn't give anything but you could tell who came out yeah No, MGK came out.

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The way you are with Tandy, bro, that's how he is with gossip. I needed to make sense of it. And then Jay goes, oh, that's my philanthropy guy. I'm like, damn, Billy Crudup doing rough right now, bro. On-site, that was the worst way.

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Has anyone come to the shows that blew your mind? Your manager was like, by the way, Jelly, this person's going to be in attendance tonight.

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Even Post, you gave his own section of the show. He had his songs and the ones he has with you, right?

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That's fire. Do you have any insight or opinion on the whole drama with Beyonce not getting nominated for any country awards?

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I would guess what percentage of that's like over 60 that's just been focused on what Hollywood gives you, what wins at some of the film festivals.

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It was. It was going so good.

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Yeah, Walk This Way, yeah. Adidas, yeah.

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No, and then Adidas sales.

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Do you see like the, the politics of Nashville changing now that country become like the dominant art form? Like are people trying to like buy streams like within Nashville in a way that you haven't seen in the past? Like has the business corrupted?

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My publicist is fired tomorrow.

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You should have learned from the music video. Every time we hang out, it's just a little dip. But then it goes even higher.

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It goes down to go up.

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Oh, they're awesome. Yeah, you'll hit me. Oh, you're going to love them.

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you're pity who really off right there compliment anyway i want to know who else who else who else zach top zach top you heard his kid i sleep like a baby oh yeah i never show no that seems cool who dylan marlo i love dylan marlo yeah he's all i love dylan marlo so listen he's got a brother there's two of them it's a dylan and a cameron okay

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Damn, so he got looks and he can sing.

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Oh, this guy is handsome. No, you see, that's the one.

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But you still get the jersey, right? Yeah, I still get the jersey.

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And I remember he like looked at some of you and was like, Okay, I get that one. He was wearing like a pink furry shirt. He's like, yeah, that one I get.

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That's what a fucking great guy you are. You're a great guy, but you make me feel like a real piece of shit. Tell me.

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It wasn't until black people got equality that they were like, we need numbers.

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If entertainment was the metric, y'all would have been accepted way earlier. Bring up the other guy. We're not close enough. Oh, what's the other guy? We're not white passing.

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Yeah. We have like a family name in India. So my cousin, they just call him Golu, which just means round. Just means round. That's just what's called. That's your name to everybody.

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wait why it's the only name more italian than mark's sons how is luigi menzioni a talent what do you mean i mean they're bad people it's the italians yeah food is good enough oh my god and the culture is amazing and warm and you go there you're like us to do it ah amalfi is just amazing it's just they just got it i just want to hold myself

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Guys, my sellout streak ended. You know, I sold out so many shows in a row. I was doing 4,000 tickets in Brea. Tulsa, Oklahoma. Can you believe it? I didn't sell out in Tulsa, Oklahoma. That got to change. We got to get back on track. Omaha, Nebraska. This week, I'm at the Funny Bone. Buy your tickets.

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uh next week march 28th i'm in columbus ohio i know there's a lot of indians there you better buy your fucking tickets april 10th through 13th i'm gonna be uh making up for those shows in tampa most of the tickets are already sold out we've added i don't know if we're gonna be able to add any more maybe we can find some real estate somewhere but i don't know if there's any more room to add so hurry up and buy those tickets april 17th through 20th i'm gonna be in denver and obviously 420 in denver at comedy orcs you know what that means i'm gonna be getting high on stage maybe i'll do shrooms maybe we'll level it up

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So those dates and many more at AkashSingh.com. Buy your tickets right now. Let's get back to the show.

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doctors are so lazy you just give it antibiotics i guess and it's like we're good just do chemo and just in case yeah why not just see this is one of the ones that you take the antibiotic you know sometimes they're like oh it could weaken your immune system if i might have gonorrhea give me the fucking antibiotic hell yeah i was still fucking on that shit flamethrower

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I like it. You're like the gay version of her. Yes. You're like that, but for gay.

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New Yorkers kept on to that. Yeah, because fuck them. They're all Indian.

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They're the ops, dude. Really? They're the best tickets. Fuck them. They're all 5'2".

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I've actually never seen an Indian meter maid, but if you gave me a ticket.

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All the traffic cops are Indian and all the meter maids are in it. I've seen West Indian traffic cops. Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on.

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I mean, I guess depending on how many times you get tickets.

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No. Have you seen this? This is hilarious. I saw a boot last week.

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Yeah, if you were like, I'm not good at tennis because there's no good homosexual tennis players, that would be that. No, there was Arthur Ashe.

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I think I've told you this story, but like- It's the most emotional I've seen, Mark. Most feelings don't backstab.

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Yeah, because it was like the 70s. They didn't even start checking until after he died.

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They didn't even understand what AIDS was until, like, what, the late 80s?

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I've given plasma. Yes, I did the same thing.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I don't, but plasma, I heard they needed, and I was trying to be a good person. I gave up on that shit. Don't worry. Man, I see your blood. It throw that shit out.

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He's also the most religious person I know. This guy's barely even religious. Talk about the most religious person you know.

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I did it after 9-11, so everybody knew which team I was on. That was important in my high school. Well, which team did you donate to? You did it to the dudes in Afghanistan.

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Dude, that visa took too long. So I just went to the mosque. No, I did it in my high school. They had like a blood drive. Okay. I don't even know how.

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And a portion of the proceeds always go to the veterans. God bless them. Doing good for America. God bless them, okay? Don't drink that lib coffee from some purple-haired non-binary barista.

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But that's sick. You get a movie ticket. Yeah.

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Husband's kicked out of the house. He has no idea what's going on, but he's so brainwashed and was so pussy whipped over this girl that on these calls, he just assumes he's the problem and everything's going to get better. No checking with his kids. I think his oldest daughter tried to text him. Hey, dad, just want to let you know I love you. Thinking of you. He hearts it.

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And then one minute later, unhearts it because he's so worried about... you know, like crossing his wife, essentially. Even though he's already been kicked out for months, maybe a year. He's like so worried about crossing the mom and losing her. He said like, I chose her over my kids every single time.

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And the vlogs start getting darker. Like if your kid is, it is principle over everything. If you basically, if your kid has to die for the principles to work, then that's what it is.

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That's so good. They let her sit on the bench? I never understood where you got your confidence until that clip. Now it all makes sense.

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and then the neighbor shows up about to walk away because the neighbor's an old person takes him a while to get to the door kid just kind of you see it on the ring cam he starts walking away he's like almost at the street and then luckily the neighbor opens the door and the kid is like hey can you do me two favors and neighbors like kind of like what it's what are they it's and then he's like can you actually i just need one can you call the cops i'm worried about my sister and me or something like that yeah the video is on a ring cam too like the kid walks up on a ring kind of heartbreaking

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to be honest yeah i cried the dad like this this is an old man he's like why don't you have a seat here then i guess his wife brings out like a banana and some water the dad calling the cops is looking at the kid he's got he's like bound at the ankles duct tape on his ankles all bloody emaciated like super skinny uh and then he just he starts crying this old guy just looking at this kid he's like what's happening to these kids is awful and then apparently he has a sister in the house too

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And this bitch, the therapist, when she answers the door, she answers the door. She goes, I'm on the phone with my lawyer. Like already she knows. She knows. So this, I would say this mom is probably schizophrenic. Like the way she talks about demons and she says, I'm on a mission from God. These are things I've very, very like basic understanding of schizophrenia.

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That's like, these are things that a schizophrenic person might think. That, like, there's demons in the house and I'm on a mission from God, blah, blah, blah. This therapist is a dirty, dirty bitch and the dad is a cuck for just letting this all happen. To me. Like, that's my takeaway.

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The daughter was in—when they found the daughter, she was, like, upstairs in a room, like, her hands like this. You know what I mean? Like, her knees tucked against her chest.

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Yeah, and the cop is trying to talk to her. She won't speak. Like, it's so sad. So he's just, like, calling for whatever backup or, like, welfare or whatever. CDC or whatever the fuck. Oh, and people had been— In Utah, her neighbors, it's Utah, they're probably all friendly with each other. They were all concerned, and they had called for welfare checks.

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Multiple neighbors and the oldest daughter called for a welfare check. I want a welfare check for my brothers and sisters. I don't think they're okay. And then the cops weren't allowed to get a search warrant because the judge said, one of the neighbors was asked, have you seen evidence of physical abuse? And because the neighbor said no, the cop was like, you can't give them a search warrant.

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So this goes on for 10 months. So if that kid doesn't escape and they die, frankly, it's also on the judge for never once being like, yo, you're allowed to go search, go do a welfare check. And to be honest, I've had, like, we have a neighbor who says some crazy shit to their kid. Like, you're a fucking psychopath. Like, nasty shit to their kid. You're fucking insane. What are you doing?

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Like, we're hearing things horrendous.

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Yeah, we called Child Protective Services, CPS or whatever. And then they were like, if you don't have evidence that the kids are being physically abused, there's nothing we can do.

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sorry so and verbal abuse doesn't it doesn't count and they're only she was like the same thing they said to her lady on the phone was like i'm with you and the shit this mom says i was gonna go over and knock on the door and be like what the fuck is going on my wife is like you cannot call cp let's call cps let's do this all right would be you cannot go over there and i was like

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I'm going to go check in on the kid and be like, yo, are you okay? I hear what she's saying to you. And she's like, dog, this woman is clearly crazy. You have somewhat of a public profile. You don't know what she could say about you trying to groom this kid or whatever. So it's like you call CPS, you try to do the right thing. Nobody shows up. Nobody talks to her. Still hear shit. It's like crazy.

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And we live in like a nice building. So what happens to that kid? I don't know. I see him. I try to just be like, hey, what's up, man? Everything okay? He is withdrawn. Head is always down. And it's just like, yeah, your mom is saying horrendous shit to you.

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I think so. That's what I thought. The American Red Cross does any shit like that, I think, right?

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I mean, you could say you heard it, what sounded like it. Yeah. I mean, yeah, just the shit. I can't even think of it because it's all right on the spot and whatever. But like the shit she says is just like we hear it from our room in an apartment nearby. And we're like down the hall. People have been like talking to us like what the fuck is going on in there?

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It's like head down all the time. How old?

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I also think, though, there's a conversation about all of these mommy vloggers. Like, my wife sees a couple of them. Some of them will just have their kids, like, in the background of a video as a part of, like, hey, here's a day in my life. My kid went to whatever. Some of them will make their kids the center of the video. And there's an Indian girl who does it. Right.

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And, like, she's just a daughter who's, to me, just an adorable girl. But she wears glasses. And I know how this fucking internet thing works. We all know how the comment section works. Mm-hmm. My wife was watching it and I was getting like fucking furious before she got, Jasleen got on TikTok. And she was like, why are you so angry?

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And I was like, dog, this girl is going to start seeing negative comments. She's a fucking baby. This is going to fuck her up mentally. She has no consent in this. Why are you putting her on fucking video? Do you care about your kids at all? Or are you just so fucking talentless that you'll do whatever it takes to get a few views? I was like livid about it.

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Yeah. I think larger conversation, all them fucking parent vloggers. If your kid is a center of a video, your account should be banned. Well, did you see what happened?

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That shit is so gross.

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No, I can—but here's the difference. Internet comments are the difference. You go to school, nobody's going to be like, hey, look what people are saying about you working at the bodega.

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This, if you—or just some kid could go comment on the parents' page, and it's like, well, whatever. Yeah.

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It's incredible. I love that. You be the center of the video.

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Putting my kid in a video and talking about how cute they are, that's the kid, that's no different than, like, these stage moms that we hate or the kids that force their kids to be actors. You're the exact same person, but now you're also the director, the executive producer. You're just taking all the money. And the next person won't be as insane as Ruby Frankie.

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She'll be smart enough to delete the Raws, et cetera, et cetera.

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So I don't want to criticize those people because that shit is... teenage daughter, and I guess now she's a teenager, getting her eyebrows threaded and like, I didn't watch the video, but I know Indian girls. I know what the eyebrows look like. I know you're inviting some comments. You know what I mean?

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that's informational like you said even if it's entertainment that is even if it was you getting on camera and complaining about your kids but your kids aren't in the videos they're blurred out yeah that's i'm not even saying it's a shot at him that's what louis ck did yeah it was but you don't know who the kids are he protects their identity that's great that's entertaining yeah but i think that's a good slice yeah but what gets the views and they knew that the son and the oldest daughter got the views whenever they would be on the that's some horseshit dog that's some horseshit yeah

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Exploiting children for views is some horse shit. I know. This bitch is crazy.

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So Jonathan Majors audio, you know, he's been accused of all the old shit. So audio leaked of a conversation with, of, of him with said woman. Uh, he says, I'm ashamed. I've ever may just begins before cutting himself off, cuts himself. I goes, I'm ashamed. I've ever, I've, I've never been aggressive with a woman before. I've never aggressed a woman. I aggressed you.

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She goes, you strangled me and push me against the car. He goes, he goes, yes, all of those things are under aggressed. That's never happened to me. Wow. Because I said something sarcastically in your eyes, she said. And he said, well, clearly it's more than that. And then she goes, something inside of you. And then he goes, yeah, towards you. Yeah, son. What?

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That was that. Suddenly black people are all about Castle Doctor now.

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I know. And he was running away from her.

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He's pretty big in Creed. Maybe he was started there. It is Hollywood's fault. It's Hollywood's fault. You know what? I think I got the PR move for him. Okay. Sometimes a man is struggling with his sexuality.

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He doesn't know how to handle the fact that he might be a different sexuality. And so he takes it out on women in a way that's not fair. Because I can't help but notice his pictures with Michael B. Jordan. No aggression.

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jokes because he did something heinous.

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I feel like I want to aggress you. I feel like I want to aggress you right now. Look at, look at, look at. That's her in like her, I don't know, what, mid-40s probably?

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I mean, she's just absolutely beautiful. It's retarded.

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Yeah, that's a good idea. Was she an actress?

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It used to say organ donor or not. Now it just says donor or not. Like, I just got the little heart there. Do you have a New York license? No, I got the Texas, but I'm sure it's the same shit. Yeah. I don't think I'm a donor.

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That's what I'm talking about.

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I didn't realize until well later. Somebody told me. What do you mean? Somebody told me years later. We were seeing her on Stomp the Art or whatever. He was like, dude, she was in something when she was a kid. I forget which movie. And then I looked it up.

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All right, let's have a real conversation. He's 35. This happened when he was nine. You had 26 years to go to therapy, work through your issues. Yeah, it's fucked up that happened to you. It was very traumatic. 26 years you could have worked through it. You didn't. I'm not going to forgive what you did because this potentially happened.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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But I'm saying if somebody develops that technology, that's going to save a lot of lives.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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So you could evaporate that lead. Yeah, that makes sense. I always attribute it to a college kid not being as... able to withstand the momentum shift. So they're emotionally caught up in the game. They're not as used to it.

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And there's no intellectual connection between you two. You're not exploring her thoughts. You're not talking to her.

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Just turn the volume up. Do something you've never done with a woman in your life.

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Son, you've been checking out AI retards? Son, she got a... Don't burn off.

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What's up, noodle dicks? You see the blue light. You know what time it is. It's blue chew time. It is hard dick time. It's, what do you call them shits that you're taking, Mark? Performance enhancing drugs? PED time, but for your dick.

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Guys, Mark is over here getting in great shape, and that's all well and good, but why don't you use PEDs for the one organ that really matters, and that is your dick. The one piece of your body that really matters. If you got a girl that you want to impress, eh, Best way to do it is probably with Blue Chew. And if you want to do that hard dick thing, all you got to do is go to bluechew.com.

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These are promo code flagrant. And then you get your first shipment for free. You just have to pay $5 for shipping. That's it. So bluechew.com, promo code flagrant. Also visit Blue Chew. Look at all the details and all the important safety information. And then give the special lady in your life the best dick she's ever gotten.

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Or at least the best dick you're capable of giving her for maybe a much lower ceiling there. But either way, do it. Let's get back to the show. There's just a clip that I think was very fitting given what's been happening on Flagrant and the newest romance that's blossoming amongst the Flagrant staff. So why don't we just watch this clip? Let it play out. We don't need any context.

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You don't need any sound. Just watch two... Well, the characters are brothers, but just watch. And this has been viral because White Lotus has been kind of building with this weird subplot. We can just press play whenever you want. We'll talk. Who cares? So this is one brother and another brother. Hey, smooch on the lips. And that's initially.

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And then the second one is similar to what has happened on the flagrant set, I believe, between Miles and David. He liked that. Kiss on the set. He liked that. So I just think, you know.

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And you're still trying to wrap your mind around the characters because you are not caught up on the show. You didn't see it building toward this?

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And then he made out with him a third time. Horrid. That kid is David.

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Seemingly blood brothers.

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They're trying to hook up with these girls. The girls start kissing, and I think they kiss... Each of them kisses the younger guy, and then they're like, now you two need to kiss if we don't just... It's a classic party thing.

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Classic party thing!

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okay yeah it was i thought they were building up that the younger brother was gonna hook up with the sister he seems like he's into whatever yeah the little brother's a creep he's like kind of innocent but also demented yeah yeah okay so now everybody's back in on the show

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I didn't feel that way.

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I mean, for sure, because of the syphilis thing.

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They wanted to see the effects of it or whatever, I guess. Instead of getting syphilis patients, they're like, well, let's just inject healthy black people. This is horrible. Wait a minute.

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Ostensibly a good dude. Like most of the time you see these guys in movies, they're cheating on their girls, they're X, Y, Z. And then he says early in the season, the guy that's going to jail, he's like, I was doing you a fucking favor. This didn't even help me. I was just trying to help you out. And you said nothing could happen.

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So, like, he's not some piece of shit, ostensibly, again, some piece of shit scumbag fucking everybody over to get his wealth. He tried to help a guy out, and now it's coming back to bite him in the ass. It seems like a fairly connected father. His kids love him. And you see that guy falling.

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Yeah. No, the brother's not... The douchebag brother's not into it. He's just like... If you look at him afterward, he's Miles. He's just, like, disturbed by it.

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And he tells him, like, go out there, and they kind of paint him as, like, you would think almost a little, like, creepy with the way he treats women, but he's like, just go out there. Get rejected, dude. Just go shoot your shot. It's not... It's not like, hey, if they say no, it doesn't matter.

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Make me fall in love with the character and then break my heart. And it's more accurate. We are all good and bad. Nobody's pure good. Nobody's pure bad.

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that's what i think i don't know i'm not watching you realize this is so funny watching you realize this in real time and you're such a history guy and i'll be honest i still don't believe that y'all don't believe that

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Are we more bothered by the gay or the incest? I just feel like... Well, this is... I don't know.

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It makes it creepy because this brother's into it. Yeah. And then goes back. Like they just needed to kiss. And then they're like, well, that's not enough. So they do a little more. And then he does it and then goes back again. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See that? And then I think he goes back again. Gosh, won't look.

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She seems like the pure character on the show.

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My recollection of White Lotus is they weren't all pieces of shit in the last two seasons. Got it. I felt like there were some decent people throughout season. Natasha Rothwell, the black girl. The black girl.

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She seemed, in season one and this season, like just a good person. Yeah. So there are always people who are just good people.

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The only kid that gets a happy ending in the entire series.

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I think that's why this season isn't as hard to watch for me, because now I know what it is. The first season I'm watching, and then the end, you're like, well, that sucked. Nobody's happy. This is all miserable. And then the second season, I was a little more prepared, but got even darker. And this season, I'm like, whatever you're throwing at me, it's going to be fine.

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But there is a white lotus effect with these places. People start going to it afterward. The hotels are so beautiful. You're like, I just need to experience that. Yeah.

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No, it's always shot at the Four Seasons, I think.

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It's just one? All three seasons are shot at the Four Seasons. So Four Seasons in Sicily, when we went, was completely sold out because of the show. Wow. I just don't know if it'll have that same impact in Thailand.

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I don't think it will.

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I mean, Thailand's a developing country. I went there. I went to Phuket, but it was like, oh, this feels like India. Three people on a scooter and like the roads look kind of like dirt roads.

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She's still there now.

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I just think he's gonna die tragically. And then break all of our hearts. I think she's evil.

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Goddamn, dog. We ain't even try to do it. Come on, Joey.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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The Germans did it. Mendeleev and Hitler. You got the guys.

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But they basically said, like, you lost the battle. You always pretend to be unbothered. This clearly bothers you a lot. It was a battle you provoked. Yeah.

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Also, you accused him, if you're worried about defamation of character, before he said anything about you with kids, not only did you talk about him being a child or abusing his girl, you also invited him to talk about this in the tailor-made freestyle when he's like, talk about it with underage girls. That's a gift from Joe Budden or whatever. Yeah.

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That's you talking, saying, hey, why don't you talk about this? So you're inviting him to talk about it. He talks about it. And now he's putting your safety in danger.

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They're trying to make me hate Drake, bro.

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They said he signed a public petition that criticized prosecutors using lyrics against artists. So, like, you signed a petition saying you shouldn't be able to use an artist's lyrics against them. They're just lyrics. And now you're suing us for this. Yeah.

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White Americans need better PR.

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Yeah, but I think he's saying the lyrics specifically is what is putting his health or his safety in risk. Right. He's not saying UMG promoting the stream. You are promoting the song, which will bring violence toward me. Look at the lyrics of the song. Calls me a child molester.

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the the manufacturing of that inflation could add harm so if you up it 20 now you've increased 20 of the harm so i'm suing you for that 20 not what the lyrics are there and i think this is what do you understand yeah yeah and i think this is why united has to find a different way um so umg has to find a different way to go at him because i think the only thing they could say is we do this for every artist we've done this for you but they can't say that because then that blows up their bills up the business model so they have to find hey just dismiss this case with prejudice

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So maybe... He was also... Or something that... Maybe gonorrhea. Something apparently that was very easily treatable with, like, penicillin. Yeah. But he was so afraid of, like, injections or whatever that he just died of syphilis.

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It was a government thing, was it not?

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Okay. What's this? Study conducted between 1932 and 1972, 40 fucking years. They could figure that shit out after three years?

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half-ass it and say and they could be like look see we did it yeah but the public really didn't get it yeah but i voted for the guy who said he was going to release that shit and he released that yeah i think a lot of files are burned and shit like i think you learned from build the wall that was too much that was like that's like i have to build the thing yeah but this i could be like i'm gonna release the files yeah i released them they're not you can't read them but they're out there yeah

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It's interesting to hear how kind of like skeptical or like kind of down on this first... part of Trump's term that Soder was. Interesting. You remember, he was just like, I don't like what's happening. I don't like the power Elon has. I don't think this bodes well for Trump and his legacy. Like, it was interesting to hear that from a staunch conservative.

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The United States Public Health Service and the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, the CDC. Wow. 400 African-American men with syphilis. See who headed the program.

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They're like, I'm not very happy with this administration right now. Is that what you got from the convo? That's what I got from the convo. I should have been listening. I didn't get that. He was criticizing Elon. He was criticizing... Y'all didn't hear that?

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Yeah, but he was just like, the first 100 days defines a presidency. Right now, it's getting dominated by this. This is the story. And that is incredibly important for Trump's legacy. And if he keeps letting Elon dominate the headlines instead of the other things he's doing, that's not going to be good. Like, I'm not very bullish on how this is going to be viewed.

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And I think he wasn't bullish on a lot of the Doge stuff in general. But, like, it was interesting to hear that from a guy who I figured would love what was happening.

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I thought he was even more like not that into it than what you're saying.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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8757.775

What's the difference between vandalism and terrorism? If you do it against the guy, like... Because that's... I don't know if vandalism might be too mild of a word, but terrorism, I assume people got to be in danger. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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8783.193

Does it need to like... This is property damage, Mark. Mark's right.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

White Lotus Saved TV, Drake Lawsuit Gets Worse, & Elon's Tesla Burning Terrorism

8831.155

And at some point, a person will likely be in the car. At a car dealership, you know these cars are empty.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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8840.541

Oh, no, no. There's a political agenda. I just don't know if you would call this violence or like even a building where you know people are going to go into or whatever. I just feel like a car that's unsold that doesn't belong to anyone except Tesla. Right. That's on a parking lot. It just seems different.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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8930.996

I think it's fucked up. I don't like it. Even though I don't like much of what Elon is doing right now, I don't like this. I will also say, you're not... The second you have Starlink on your Wi-Fi on your flight, you're going to be like, you know what? I'm never giving this up. I'm never giving this up. I'm streaming anything I fucking want on this plane. I could do FaceTime calls.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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8949.086

It's incredible. You're going to use Elon's products whether you want to or not.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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901.319

Was it treatable back then? No. By the end of the study, medical advances meant it was entirely treatable.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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9149.436

That's just a rap. You just have to take off your rap and put that one on.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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9195.094

You know what I mean? Shut up and dribble, but do that for you being a billionaire genius.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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921.692

Let's get Daryl Cooper on here. He's going to have an alternative take on history. Can I read the sentence before that on the Wikipedia, Joey? The purpose of the study was to observe the effects of the disease when untreated. So I think they specifically didn't want to treat them to see what happened. I mean, that's the most fucked. This is just diabolical.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

White Lotus Saved TV, Drake Lawsuit Gets Worse, & Elon's Tesla Burning Terrorism

9228.437

Well, tea was, oh yeah, I guess it was hurting the government specifically, not, I guess, yeah, I guess it's hurting Elon's pockets and he's in the government.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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9284.966

Also, they're not just doing it to Tesla dealerships. They're doing it to owners of Teslas as well.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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9290.873

Yeah, taking someone's tea from their house and then setting it on fire.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

White Lotus Saved TV, Drake Lawsuit Gets Worse, & Elon's Tesla Burning Terrorism

961.031

This is a white. That is a white. That's an Italian. That's not an Italian. His name is Charles. He looks like Prince Charles, to be honest with you. His name is Taliaferro.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

White Lotus Saved TV, Drake Lawsuit Gets Worse, & Elon's Tesla Burning Terrorism

976.685

And his name is Charles. They're trying to ethnic it up right now to make it. No, but you always get a white name when you come to America. So there's a fucking blame white people for it. Yeah.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Credit Card Fraud w/ Kippy & Foley!

1755.807

No.

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Credit Card Fraud w/ Kippy & Foley!

1804.196

Think? We gotta be. Far from it? We don't have Tesseract technology.

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Credit Card Fraud w/ Kippy & Foley!

1822.147

You believe this guy?

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Credit Card Fraud w/ Kippy & Foley!

2090.728

Protein in there.

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Credit Card Fraud w/ Kippy & Foley!

223.379

We did.

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Credit Card Fraud w/ Kippy & Foley!

2939.174

100%.

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Credit Card Fraud w/ Kippy & Foley!

327.726

Is it a bazooka product?

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3414.254

Luke? Yeah, I got a pair of Relax Fit.

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3419.878

$25.

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Credit Card Fraud w/ Kippy & Foley!

3597.601

A group of 300 to 500 piranhas could eat an adult human in five minutes if they were starving.

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3634.856

Piranhas can live up to packs of a thousand. Man, two and a half minutes out the door.

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393.798

Nothing on that?

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Credit Card Fraud w/ Kippy & Foley!

583.922

That's fucking fantastic.

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Credit Card Fraud w/ Kippy & Foley!

829.21

It's a West German product.

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954.377

Luke? I got an article why goldfish don't belong in the lunchbox.

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Pump & Dump w/ Kevin Ryan & H. Foley

1461.151

I forget. You guys eat it in class?

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Pump & Dump w/ Kevin Ryan & H. Foley

151.221

Snacks.

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Pump & Dump w/ Kevin Ryan & H. Foley

1901.636

That's wild to me.

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Pump & Dump w/ Kevin Ryan & H. Foley

224.418

You have none of those things.

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Pump & Dump w/ Kevin Ryan & H. Foley

2298.019

Get out. Don't get.

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Pump & Dump w/ Kevin Ryan & H. Foley

2351.384

Mm-hmm.

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Pump & Dump w/ Kevin Ryan & H. Foley

2481.46

You got to do it.

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Pump & Dump w/ Kevin Ryan & H. Foley

3168.473

Jesus.

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Pump & Dump w/ Kevin Ryan & H. Foley

3251.912

I mean, listen.

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Pump & Dump w/ Kevin Ryan & H. Foley

3255.165

Yeah, okay. You got some friends.

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Pump & Dump w/ Kevin Ryan & H. Foley

3269.644

Oh, no.

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Pump & Dump w/ Kevin Ryan & H. Foley

3305.393

Kill yourself.

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Pump & Dump w/ Kevin Ryan & H. Foley

3345.904

That shit's still coming out. That'll bring you back from the dead, that's the one.

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3359.713

Ah.

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Pump & Dump w/ Kevin Ryan & H. Foley

3378.075

Listen to music, listen to the silence. Ain't no soundtrack but the jungle at night, dog.

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3556.972

He tried to kiss me.

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Pump & Dump w/ Kevin Ryan & H. Foley

3562.034

Really? Yeah, it was like... I know it! With your podcast! Yo, you're not doing that, alright? Hollywood, these guys. These New Yorkers. This ain't no freak-off, huh? Yo, Danny, get off of me! Ha ha ha ha ha!

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3667.684

Sure.

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Adrienne Iapalucci: The Dark Queen

1439.838

A case against FedEx.

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Adrienne Iapalucci: The Dark Queen

638.902

Yeah, a nice guy.

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

1505.987

Oh, man. That's a production assistant role. What? Is it? Getting coffees. Nice.

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

1559.591

Actually, I'm working on an episode.

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

1562.593

Of what? This show.

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

1796.255

Hundreds? Yeah.

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

1798.656

This is nuts. And I know I'm wrong. I thought it was like 200 years. It's 1,000 years. 500 to 1,500.

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

1869.381

Yes, because everyone was just warring at the time. Warring, like fighting wars.

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

1916.408

The Renaissance starts around 1300, so there's a little overlap between the two.

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

1927.488

During the Dark Ages?

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

1931.41

But I thought we lost a bunch of records and stuff like that. Oh, yeah, because everyone was fighting and burning everything.

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

2167.725

Transparent objects allow light to pass through completely, while translucent objects allow some light to pass through, but objects on the other side are not as clear.

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

2180.447

Also known as a beat bag.

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

2698.218

Woo!

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

2993.218

Wi-Fi is so slow. Sorry.

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

2998.02

New Jersey, Maryland. Is that what your friend said? New Jersey, Maryland, Delaware, West Virginia, District of Columbia, and Pennsylvania.

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

3106.057

Do you relish in your fridge that often? Were you eating chips or something? I was chewing ice.

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

328.307

That's the bad one.

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

333.888

Executive is the best.

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

3496.075

Two years in the fridge after opening.

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

3502.099

Six months. No shit.

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

363.841

Producer.

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

365.243

Line producer. Is the best. Executive producer. Is the best. Yes.

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

3657.299

Also called GERD.

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

3664.364

Oh, Barrett's esophagus is caused by GERD. Yes. Yeah.

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

3672.01

How do you have a little of it?

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

371.568

Nice. Luke is a producer. I'm a producer and a line producer.

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

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There's no time to take any drugs. Line producer handles the day-to-day of the filming, the deadline, stuff like that. Executive producer is the one responsible for financing the film.

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3835.471

I don't live in Manhattan. Okay, Queens. In an apartment building, it is. Queens, that's like Christmas dinner.

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

392.938

That was us. We talking about dickhead.

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549.026

That was a challenge. Challenge? It was an internet challenge to milk people like Fent out. Jesus, really? Fent and all freak out.

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I know he talks. I get an attitude also when I hang up. Sure. What are you doing? Nothing. What are you doing? No, you're asking me, what the fuck are you doing?

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Smoking at Disney w/ Kippy & Foley!

988.143

You get multiple Neuralinks.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1002.728

You ever smell an extra bad dump? Like at the airport, sometimes you can smell someone's taking a dump.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1009.05

A nuclear poop, as I refer to it as. What are they eating? My dog will do that sometimes. Extra bad, but a human.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1023.649

Kevin's body's revolting.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

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That was me when I got back from Asia and Rogan was like, do you have diarrhea? I'm like, the whole time.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

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Yeah. Four straight months of diarrhea.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

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Talk about a cleanse.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1051.305

Yeah. The weird places you've been. It can sustain a lot of stuff.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1057.0

Talked about it, I think. I've eaten guinea pig. Oh, we have. Fair enough. Worms was enough. Beetle larva. That's what it was. Ants.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1071.146

Whale. I've had whale burgers in Norway. A burger? You don't even get a steak in that? I had a zebra burger in the UK. What? They had a zebra burger in some market.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1087.918

That's not kangaroo. That's homeless.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

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It was a McDonald's in Flushing, Queens.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

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What?

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

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Oh, boy.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1350.971

When you see somebody shuffling like this, just like that, and push them together, I'm like, let me show you.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

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Yeah, and then they just push them in, but I'm like, no, dude, I want... You want that, and then I believe it's called the waterfall.

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1375.319

it means you're not good you don't got a lot going on if you're like check out how i shuffle cards you're you're all your time is spent in between hands yes yeah a lot of fucking just sitting at a table doing it yeah i always thought it was cool as shit i always respected it I used to play a lot of poker in L.A. You get good at it from poker. And then I was with my friend.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1395.655

We were playing blackjack in a casino in Vegas, and I was doing that shuffling the chips.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1400.899

I do the shuffling the chips. It's so cool. It's just like, you don't even look at it. You can do two hands, and he goes, playing a lot of cards, are you? Uh-huh. Yeah, I got a problem. Yeah, I know. I got a real addiction.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1410.465

The Russian mob's looking for you.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1423.833

Throw me out. I'm shuffling three $1 chips. You ever been thrown out of a table?

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1432.776

Testy with what, the dealer or the people?

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1435.277

Yeah.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1438.478

She's like, come on, what you're doing is terrible.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

145.792

At this point, yeah.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

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Oh, it's so great. It's so great.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1478.472

Who?

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

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Oh, you go, hey, this piece of shit over here fucked me. Hey, don't say anything but this bozo in the vest. A real piece of shit. Hey, we're all friends here, right?

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1526.958

I don't think he does anything. When you win, you pass it down. But when you lose, they never give it back. What's up, dealers?

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1535.741

I thought we were boys. How great is this when you tip them a dollar or whatever, a chip, and they go, ride it, and they're like, I'll play with you.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1549.592

Those are fun because they're going, I know the odds are against me, but I want you guys all friendly. I don't want Kevin yelling at me again. I was here last time he came in, and I had to go to therapy.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1568.169

I got thrown out once.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1570.171

Stealing chips. It was a commerce casino. I've cheated. Me and Renesas used to cheat.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1574.434

Yeah. Just stay out of the hand. We'd give taps of like, I have aces or kings, and then we'd give a tap to be like, raise no matter what you have, I'll re-raise. Then you come back, you can get out then.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1591.786

Yeah, so in limit, I'll tap. If I'm sitting there and Renazisi's sitting here, I'll give him the tap. And so it goes to me. I check, right? It goes to Kevin. He checks. Then I bet. It comes around again. You double bet. That's on limit poker. So that way I can get a double. And then I'll be like, nah, I'm out. Yeah. And so now everyone has to stay in for double.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1610.556

But we got caught once because I told him. We got lazy.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

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No, I go, I'm going to raise. And then it came, and some guy's just like looking at me across the table, and then I raise. He goes, whoa, what the fuck, man? Wait, another player? Yeah, yeah, that I'm playing against. And he goes, what the fuck? I'm like, what? He goes, you just said you're going to raise. He raised, and then you re-raised. And I'm like, no. He goes, bro, I'm a foot away from you.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1639.518

I got to talk to you on that one. No, I got thrown out once because somebody beat me up with a jack of the river. I had him the whole way. I had him. And then he was, like, stacking, and he talked a little shit. Just like, you'd think I knew what I was going to do. Something shitty. And then I waited, and he stacked up all these chips. And as soon as he stacked them, I just reached out.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

165.601

I'm talking to a lawyer right now about changing my name to Ari, you garbage.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1658.871

I just knocked him down. You are such a dickhead. And they were like, no. He goes, what the fuck? He got mad. They threw me out. They're like, yeah, no, sir. Absolutely not. You're out. What are you, five years old? I'm about five. It was worth it.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

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What a great noise that is.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1703.982

Yeah.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1736.769

Yeah.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1741.55

You can't be taking pictures with a dead body. It's fucked up, man. Unless I will allow it, Polaroid. Be your over-the-dead body going like this.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1762.139

No, there's a weird one where the body has to be buried quick, like within a day.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1767.041

So overnight while they're waiting for everybody to come. It can't be alone.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1776.027

I don't think so. I'm trying to remember.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1779.228

Somebody's got to stay. So what they have is volunteers, the high school kids, whatever, will help the community stay with the body all night.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1788.011

We have to go in and be with it.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1792.127

They're grieving. Yeah, so, I mean, they must have really worried about people fucking those bodies. Did you ever touch one?

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1804.47

No, they're just in the casket. You're just in a room with a casket. You just have to relieve somebody. You just sit there for a while. I peaked. You went in there like, yep, that's dead. That's a big set of canes.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1817.474

Yeah, it's just like...

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1827.923

No. It was so long ago, I don't remember.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1845.755

Yeah, like, we're not going to waste money on a dead guy.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1850.076

We don't want all this money normally. We definitely don't want to waste money on a dead guy. An old Adidas box. Yeah, exactly. The high tops, though. The high tops. Can you guys get cremated? Is there rules against that? No cremation. Not allowed. Not allowed. No tattoos. You can't have tattoos, but that's a wives' tale.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1869.561

Yeah, so you can't get buried in a Jewish cemetery without a tattoo. There's no such thing in Jewish law as a Jewish cemetery. You just have to bury somebody.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1879.831

Yeah, I'd want one of those with something interesting in there.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1887.298

Shit. Yeah, immersive art. Yeah, heater would be nice. Oh, you're saying catch a heater. Yeah, smoke a cig. Not me, I'm off the heaters. Engrave, like, light up here. Safe space.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

190.809

Talk about thinkers. You guys are going highbrow now.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1902.846

Ash run out for the dead. Leave your roaches. Leave your roaches. Yeah, roach for the dead.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1910.55

Yeah, then I'd be in heaven and talking to God, and God's like, so what do you want? What piece was? I'm like, um...

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1924.78

I think if everyone just got some Doritos, everything would be good. Is there a 7-Eleven up here or anything like that?

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1936.386

Insert that here, by the way. I was lit. Tired, drunk, full, all at the same time, aggressively guarding my Pepsi Zero.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

197.151

You went from unibrow to highbrow.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

1977.938

Yeah, everyone goes to, who does the Fizz Face? The what? Fizz Face. Who is that? It's a rapper from Oakland. People go to his grave and smoke on his birthday.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

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I don't know. T-H-I-Z-Z. What do you got, new guy Luke? How do I spell that again? T-H-I-Z-Z. Man, Luke stumped on a hip-hop question.

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I still got a uni cook in a little bit.

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It's got to be an older hip-hop.

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Thiz... Okay, yeah. Who did Thiz's face? Talk about the Riz's face.

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Have a nice Christmas ale. All this talk about drinking on grades is making me thirsty.

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Yeah. I'm doing dry January, too, so this will be a nice. It's good they were recording this in February. I'm just really bad at it. Are you really doing dry January? No, I thought about it this year. I did it last year. I thought about it, and I was like, no, I guess not, because I was going to go on Rogan's, and I was like, we're definitely going to be drinking with Shane.

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And then I was like, well, I may as well then drink every day.

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I got one. Are you garbage? You have mixed matched beers in your fridge.

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This is from two Christmases ago.

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Brooklyn winter IPA.

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It just freed up on its own?

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It's a Sledder's choice, and I'm a Sledder.

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They always ask, and every time they ask, I go, I don't know. I don't remember.

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Your body was like, we get it.

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Natural I get. That's kind of a fade in. Like it's already grown in a little bit.

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They do the round at the end. And when I'm like square, I'm like, oh, that might be lame. Do a touch.

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Yeah. Yeah, you got can't head. Hey, Lego head. You ever get a haircut and they're like, all right, cut it on like a three or whatever if it's like trimmed. And then you see it, you go, that's actually not short enough. Can you just go over the whole thing again? I feel bad.

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Get Tootie on to wish it off.

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Sometimes, or I'll go down there and just buzz it fast.

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It's as easy now. This part's taken care of already.

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I mean, I go. Yeah, no. I want to go to Turkey. I want to get that thing.

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Yeah, I want to know what the recovery time is. A couple months. Two weeks. Two weeks is fine. I can just hang out.

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Yeah, I don't know how they do it.

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Well, you think it's just they put someone else's head on top of your head?

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Yeah, you're going to have to do a couple months of like. If I got it, I would just lean in. I wouldn't pretend to deny it or anything.

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Doesn't grow back.

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Yeah, people try to talk you out of it. Like, it's going to make it look shitty. I'm like, I mean, I'll just shave it. I'm about there anyway.

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But it's kind of like online dating. We got shell-shocked when we were little. We're like, that's for nerds. That's what everybody does.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I mean, yeah, let's make it a trip.

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Turkish Delight. Yeah, are you kidding me?

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No, it came afterwards because God sucks.

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Someone's getting a harem and you're just rolling around in Turkish Delight.

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Big Turk, one of those underrated candy bars. Canada only. Big Turk. Yeah, it's Turkish Delight wrapped in chocolate. You go to Canada, shout out.

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It's good. It really do you up right. Yeah, let's all go to Turkey.

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Let's all hang out at least. We can puss out later.

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Let's go and we'll decide when we get there.

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What was that question? Did we answer it?

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That's so great.

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Yeah, these kids got to start dyeing their hair a little gray.

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I just shit my pants. I used to check IDs at the comedy store. And this is all normal situation. Not everybody. I would just look at the thing and hand it back and say, go. You could give me a black woman's thing. And I'm like, okay, 1991.

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I don't think either one of those is classy or trashy.

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Ooh, good point.

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Or if you get it back where your wife lives, and they're like, you want the Dolph? No, I don't want the Dolph. They give you the high and tight over there. What's the Dolph? I don't know, just like a little bit of spiky, all shaved and down hard. Yeah?

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They go for it. They got to show off their speed over their head.

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Sometimes I'm haggard.

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Mark whatever his name is.

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Yeah, Mark Davis is like, oh, who's fucking him? He's got some young chick girlfriend. She's like, no, I just like him. Like, right. Yeah, right. He looks like he was born in a mushroom patch.

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I get that homeless look going if I don't shave.

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He's doing his thing.

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Oh, for the record, fuck Mark Davis. Oakland rules.

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Even if you want to put your hands out, why pockets? What the fuck are you? It keeps you tight, I guess.

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Because you're in a bed. A pocket on a plane, I'll allow. In your bed? What are you sleeping in that has pockets? I'll give you that. You're going to do the flap? Put it in the flap?

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I saw a video that said somebody's trying not to get robbed in Philadelphia waiting for the bus. They're trying not to get mugged. And so they get to the bus stop, and they just go like this. Sure, yeah.

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And so the bus comes, like, all right, I'm ready.

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Yeah.

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They don't know.

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Hit him with a Frisbee. They won't even notice.

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The best was at Norman's bachelor party. I had the fully shaved top sides.

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Brooklyn's a great beer.

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I'll try that. I'll try it now. Then I'll do a little mixer. Man. You never see a mixture outside of a Fuddruckers.

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No, mixing sodas. Oh, you must have had this question before. No. If you get to the fountain and do a mixture.

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You fill up your thing, but you're like Little Coke, Little Cherry Coke, Little Sprite, Little Orange.

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Yeah, you look kind of good with that. Yeah. It's funny. Yeah, I extra shaved it, extra balded it. Screwball.

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Just having to do it all. Everything but Diet Coke, I think. Yeah, you got to put a little diet in there, too. That'll really ruin it.

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I like it.

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It's actually legitimately good. It's a brown ale for sure. Like a Newcastle.

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Chimay is a weird word. Guys, today's episode is brought to you by Bell's Christmas Ale, Scotch Ale. I'm a Bell's Two-Hearted man. If you're ever in the Comstock, Michigan area, come by the factory and take a tour of the Bell's. Is that where Bell's is? Maybe. Yeah. They were in Brooklyn. It says it there. I don't know.

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I mean, a thousand percent yes.

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Wow. It's riding bitch, right? You have to ride behind and hold on to your dad.

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If you got a dad who's got a stepmom, you definitely want to hold on tight.

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Yeah, have to is a weird word for this guy. You get to.

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Oh, yeah, yeah. He'd be like, all right, Mark, relax.

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Yeah, I'm going to mix, but I'm going to wait until it settles, and then I'm going to have a little mixture.

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Oh, the half and half ruled. Yeah, you kept that way too long. Drunk white chicks loved it. They were fighting with their boyfriends on the street. Like, no, you're a piece of shit. You're a fucking... Oh, my God! I love it!

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What kind of city planner are you? I want a great way to call an on-ramp a get-on.

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Real refugee shit. Yeah, just enough to turn around.

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I'm on board with that.

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I recant my previous statement. Solid move. Jew is still on YouTube right now. Get on. Are there any other terms that you've been using that when you find out as an adult, like, wait, that's not the term?

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Yeah.

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How'd you hear it?

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We convinced a friend of ours that an honest Morissette song was a cross-eyed bear that you gave to me. You know that? You know, you ought to know.

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We convinced him that it was about the guy from Full House who gave her a teddy bear that had crossed eyes. And he goes, oh, yeah. What did you think it was? He goes, no, no, no, I knew.

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We told him that at Dewey Beach. Shout out to Dewey.

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Yeah. Dewey Beach. I got a ticket for public urination. You could have got the whole town to believe that down there he could have been the mayor whoa you know that screwy talking toss fridays oh god this one's just funny this is from nicholas ever thrown a bicycle and a fit of dude absolutely it can't be in a nice mood absolutely you are real fucking pissed to do that throw a bike Wow.

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You got to pick it up.

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Ah.

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That or like little kids, little 12-year-old boys, they would stare at me and they'd go to their mom. They wouldn't even take their eyes off me. They'd just go.

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I got one. Hit me. Please. You ever drive onto the train tracks by accident? How? We did it at Portland Bridgetown Festival. We were driving drunk. Rob a bank? And we saw a cut through. Cut through is a real term, right? Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, that's a 50-50.

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I'm about to get off.

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We're like, we can go this way, then back up, then back up to the after party. But we're like, oh, it's right there. You can see the road. And it goes. So it's train tracks, but we can drive on it. But then the road dropped. The train tracks stay a little higher. So we were driving, and all of a sudden, we were just skidding. Yeah, it was me. Who else was in that car? It might have been Kinane.

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It might have been, I forget who else was there. It might have been someone who lived there. And then we were like, just stop. You can't go. The wheels aren't touching. And then we're like, oh, what do we do? Yeah. We're like, I didn't hit us. We're like, guys, if a train comes killing everybody. Yeah. This is fucked. I'm like, we got to call 911.

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And whoever was driving was like, I'm drunk as fuck. And they're like, all right, you leave.

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But officer, we need help. Yeah. We had to call. Like, we're on the way. Like, first, you got to call Amtrak. Tell them not to come right now. We all tried. We got everyone out of the party at Bridgestone. We tried to, like, lift it. And our comedians are incredibly weak.

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Well, you'd have to be a mom with a kid underneath it. You need that Superman strength. You couldn't push it back? No, it was skidding. It was like pushing the whole thing. We just couldn't do it. It was fucked. Cops came, like, who drove? And we found, like, someone else came out of the party. He's like, I drove, sir.

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I am sober. Why do you ask who drove?

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Yeah, we got a ticket. But then that guy who drove was like, I'll get the ticket. That'd be fucked up if he didn't.

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That's smart. Because if you abandon your car like, I'm just going to get out of here, you're like, oh, but the evidence, it's registered. You can't get away from that. There's plenty of things you can get away from. Not an accident.

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The cops are like, you were in the car.

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The Predator Foley? The Wailing Wall? Stuff and notes? Put little notes in his folds? I got Japanese thirst climbing on me.

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Those stickers, you'll find them after the laundry. Still on there.

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I want to say something about the RU Garbage card game. This is the old card game.

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The third edition. Same or just new?

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100%.

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Well, I just saw this one random. I haven't looked at it. I've just been shuffling like a champ. Have you ever owned a Snuggie? Mm-hmm. And I... It's... A Snuggie is one of the best party gifts if you're going to a cabin or going to a family's house for Christmas. You bring everyone a Snuggie. They have a Flaming Hot Cheetos one I found recently, and no one's upset with it.

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I just want world peace. Beat it.

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They're like, I'm for sure going to use it, even for just this weekend. It's $30. It's funny pictures.

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That's my only thing. They get too hot. Take them off. Open back. The Flaming Hot Cheetos Snuggie is a new fucking development in the all plain.

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Go birds. Go birds.

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Yeah, there's a few gifts that are like, just will always work. Snuggies for a party.

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I got it for a comedian's basketball league once. I got them all Snuggies.

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Slippers is solid. A robe for a real present. No one has one. A real thick robe. Everyone has a child. I got this from Norman. Someone has a child, get them a collection of books like Good Night Moon. Sure. Like all those kind of books. The Caterpillar one, whatever the fuck that one was. Caterpillar one. I don't know. There's a Caterpillar one.

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And then they'll all be like, oh, my God, this is so thoughtful. No, it's not. I thought of it for someone else.

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Idiot. Dumb. You're going to be a bad leader for your child.

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If you sign up on Patreon... So if you sign up for patreon.com slash areyougarbage, you can ask questions. And if you don't sign up for patreon.com slash areyougarbage, you cannot. You cannot ask questions. Well, of those two options, I'd say... Signing up for patreon.com slash areyogarbage is better for getting questions asked than not signing up for patreon.com slash areyogarbage.

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Thank you. I love it. What's the question for this loser?

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There's so many levels. Have you sprinkled already? At your favorite slot. Garbage. At Atlantic City. Double garbage.

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It's a grandfather that remarried, or it's...

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You got to vacuum it up. It's not going to stay. You're not going to vacuum it up. It's a slot machine. Let it go. They got to vacuum it up.

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Well, you got to do it a little bit at a time.

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Get it in the carpet. Get it in the gears. You're sitting there kicking, like rubbing it in. Also, who has a favorite?

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Do the coins. Do the coins. Do the coins. Do the coins. Do the coins. Do the coins. Do the coins. Do the coins. Do the coins. Do the coins.

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That's more of a popcorn thing.

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A lot of ice. Do you guys ever take back the things from like a popcorn thing from a ball game? Take it home with you and like use that as your popcorn serving thing? Until your chick goes, no, we're dropping this.

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The little helmets.

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You've got to take it. You've never, ever, though, served yourself ice cream in one of those cups.

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And you should. And you should, and we've all missed out on that opportunity.

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And you'd get enough of them where you could keep the standings on your shelf of who's in first, who's in second, who's in third, who's in fourth, who's in fifth.

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They'd never give you a Cardinals.

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Oh, that hurts. Because your mom's a whore.

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I always loved when the Cardinals moved to Arizona and that they would have like D-A-L versus A-R-I. And I'm like, nice. It was pretty sweet.

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Yeah, it's a pretty normal day. No, you don't understand.

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Bro, for 25 years, I've been looking for an Ari. I stop at every one they have. No, no, no. Chinatown, airports, foreign. You got to try Israel. The best I've got is Ariana. I'm like, come on. Give me one fucking Ari, personalized. Fuck. You never got one?

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That's not happening. The Simpsons had one of those where it's like, Bart's looking for one, and he's like, Barry, Ben, Bort. And he goes, what's this? And he goes, and then someone else comes like, my son is also named Bort. I remember that. It's pretty good. Simpsons is all right. They're going to laugh.

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It's fun always. It's meaningless. You don't waste anything. It's just friends hanging out, drinking expired ale.

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I still say we got to have a party one day. Full party. How close are these mics? If people are talking right there. We can figure it out. We can drop some boom mics.

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Yes, they will. Yes, they will. Can't be doing bumps and shit like that. Yes, we can. All right. Right behind any of the cameras. Over there. Well, that's all. Hey, convince me.

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All right, I'm sold. Let's get it back. That's the bump room. This is the not bump room. Yeah, and we'll just have a good time, and then a couple of people will be on. We'll swap out. The fucking art. Tutty's gone. We're having a house party. It's not a bad idea, Kevin. Why are you looking at me? You just want the blow. I've been pushing it for a while. Yeah, the blow. That's all part of it.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

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Have a beer. No, that's what I'm getting off of.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

3992.279

So what are you doing?

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

3996.423

We all went out to celebrate my birthday, my special. Thanks for the invite. Yeah, special.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

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It was Austin, Texas.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

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I was there. We had a good time. It was awesome.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

4012.906

It was all Christmas beers. I did Tupac. I did Joe Rogan podcast, which you guys have never been on. I did Kill Tony, which you have been on. And then we all went out Tuesday. We were with Ahsan, Tony, Matt Edgar. Wolfie, a few other people. Good hang. Great hang. Great hang. DeRosa, which is the best guy to drink with. He's in my credits of my special.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

4032.476

Things I love is drinking with DeRosa.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

4036.348

Special thanks. How you doing? If I had a podcast part, it definitely would have been. I don't know.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

4047.992

Wasn't in the credits. I was watching the credits with Tony. We were watching late at night after we drank.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

4053.394

And it was all these comedians I love. And Tony's like waiting. And he's like, so I wasn't on there? I'm like. William Montgomery's on there, and I'm not on there.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

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I don't know.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

4071.182

Yeah.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

4074.504

We were out. We were drinking. We were making toast. Hassan was like, I don't drink.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

4081.048

All right. Next story.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

4088.775

But it sounds like I don't drink anymore. It was like, he's on only special occasions. And we're like, so.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

4095.426

Oh, yeah, right. Let's do it. Let's have a house party. Let's have a Tutty's house party.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

4102.441

That's a pretty good idea. You built this place for a card game. Get a dealer, scream at them.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

4110.485

Dude, we're doing blow.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

4115.068

Yeah, we're doing blow. We're going to test it for fentanyl, and if it comes up with that squiggly line you can't tell, we're doing it one at a time.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

4122.793

Yeah, 10-minute intervals. That's risky. You've got to wait an hour to see. An hour?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

413.954

It's not even a regular fat. You can't even be like Governor Christie.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

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Everybody catch up.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

4134.043

Okay. Test the fentanyl.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

4138.125

Uh-huh.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

4150.269

We could switch off who's on air.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

4153.029

It could be a seven-hour broadcast. Get sandwiches? Yeah. Oh, yeah, I get sandwiches. We'll get Joey Rose sandwiches. Have shit there, shit there. Just like a nonstop. party. Take the mic. Yeah, you guys might not be on at some points. Just get in there. We'll do little intervals.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

4173.114

The more I say it, this is a great idea.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

4180.195

Where's H Foley? He's like, don't open that door. I'm dead. Guys, H would have wanted us to keep going.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

4224.824

A fake water park?

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

4236.01

I thought when you ever drowned, it was like the surf kept tossing me. I've had that before. Yeah. Frightening. And you're like, oh, this ocean is... This is it, yeah. This is it.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

4249.499

When you're a kid and somebody pulls you down in the pool, you're like, stop it!

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

4273.722

You're fucking, you're seeing Jesus, dude. You try to come in angry, and everyone's like, no, we're having a good time.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

428.562

Bridgegate completely killed your beach. Wildwood went down.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

4322.039

Boom. That's a pro. That's a pro.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

435.887

Bridgegate was like nobody could vacation that week.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

4351.596

Ari's got them, too. Hit them, Ari. Nashville, San Antonio, Tampa, Denver, Schaumburg, Atlanta, Portland, San Jose, Orlando, Seattle, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Anchorage, and then I'm done for a year and a half. Luke, cut all that.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

474.973

The line's going to be six blocks long to get to the top.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

494.502

Thank you very much. I appreciate it. I'm glad it finally came out. Happy for you. It looks beautiful.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

501.089

Yeah, right?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

502.551

Yeah, the eyes are on us. We either got to like top it or we got to do like a blank white like holodeck wall. And let's go for it.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

527.751

I don't remember any of that. Hey, Mr. Judge. This podcast continues to be full of lies. I was. I was a bubbling idiot.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

538.885

I had to source it. It cost a bank load.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

543.966

All real plants. You can hear at the beginning of the special, my nose a little fluffed up from the pollen. Oh, my God.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

551.808

Is that another Benadryl? Yeah.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

557.289

Like that one, but real.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

572.302

I'm more interested in horrors of culture.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

577.406

There's no way. Yeah, all real.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

581.91

Yeah, the flowers we made centerpieces out of it, gave it out to the crew. The elephant ear stuff, those will live for like 50 years. Those went back, and they'll use it for other stuff, for weddings and stuff.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

592.318

Foundry, Design Foundry, they were like, I told them the idea, they're like, you can do this for like about, I'm like, Oh, that's not. That's like seven plans. No way.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

605.467

I was taking pictures everywhere. Everywhere I went, I'd see something like that. I was taking pictures for effect.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

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Some call you that as well.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

622.334

Yeah, we told them what I wanted. I sent them the material. They're like, oh, this is cool. All right, you know what? Let's go nuts. And they just on their own just kind of like went above and beyond.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

635.945

That's all I've ever wanted.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

643.511

U-N-R-T-Y-S-T-U-F-F. Yeah.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

655.275

Yeah, I tried a year ago. You're reminding me that I was like, let me try no deodorant for a bit.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

663.437

Let me see if I can do it. And then the thing is, I wouldn't shower every day. It's like those people who go like, I can't afford this new apartment. I'll just quit smoking and I'll have extra money. Yeah, good luck. That's a great plan. Who's ever done that? Yeah, no one ever has. That's crazy. Yeah. But, yeah, then I was like.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

681.362

I wouldn't shower, then I'd be out. And whoever I'm with, like, what the fuck, man? And I'm like, oh, yeah.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

689.265

I would like to say I do it every day. No, I know what you would like. You'd like to say a lot of things.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

714.36

You don't give a shit. We're all going to make this up anyway. I'll swear on a fan fiction story. I don't know. Just call it Bible fan fiction.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

728.246

It's like, oh, wouldn't it be cool if there's a sequel? An unauthorized sequel? Okay.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

741.573

Oh, Tootie, stop.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

743.955

She picks you up by your neck. It's like Darth Vader's me. I don't know. Maybe five. Maybe five. But I'll go like four days in a row without and then do every day.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

759.5

Yeah, so I'll go like one day with those, and then if I don't have a spot the next day, I'll just run it. I'll just run it.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

767.665

Of course, man. That's all I've ever wanted to know you.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

769.787

Are you going to start now, fucking five years in? What about this?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

807.79

Oh, it helps. It helps. If you really want to be depressed and lean into it, no showering really gets you there.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

815.193

And then people leave you alone. It's like a compound disinterest.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

832.926

Yeah, right up the middle of just, like, B.O.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

841.733

Once you get the ball film in between that tank, you're like, I know what smells here, too.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

853.956

Because you can't smell your own farts, and you can't also smell your own body.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

861.258

Buddy, you can smell them, but they're not as bad. You can handle them. I think you enjoy them. It's like opening up a sandwich on the plane. It smells fine for me. Everyone else is like, what the fuck? Who's eating Brussels sprouts? When you're ready with some cheese, an unready cheese smell is like.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

882.825

Yeah. So if I could smell my own pits, it's real bad.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

894.133

Is that real tahini sauce? Taziki Shafir.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

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That's a DJ name.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

907.263

Get you an Ibiza for the weekend.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

912.346

How many days did you make it? Adrian, we were flying to somewhere, Pittsburgh, and I saw her come back. I was in row seven. She was in row 15. She comes back past me after she sits down, and I'm like, what's going on? And then she goes back, and I'm like, what is it? She goes, I can't. Someone stinks.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

936.51

They went back to inspect themselves to see if she wasn't just cairning, and they go, yeah, we'll get you. Really? Yeah, and I was like, how bad could it have been? When they were deplaning, I was taking my time because I was waiting for her, and it was like, oh, that's got to be them. They came down to me, and it was so bad. You should be, no, you can't be on this plane.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

962.056

Start with four stars. Yeah. You're maxing out at four. If everything's great, playlist is good and I get mints, max you can get is four if you got that BO.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

977.721

How many Polak jokes must there have been? Every time you get something wrong, it's like noise.

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America's Sweetheart w/ Ari Shaffir

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Yeah, pierogi reek.

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Ralph Barbosa Returns!

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Ralph Barbosa Returns!

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16.

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Ralph Barbosa Returns!

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2023?

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Ralph Barbosa Returns!

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That's a deep cut. Wow.

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Ralph Barbosa Returns!

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What'd that set you back?

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Ralph Barbosa Returns!

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That's good. Your boy's laughing.

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Ralph Barbosa Returns!

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Amen, baby. That's what I keep telling myself, too. That's what I like.

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Ralph Barbosa Returns!

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Sometimes.

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Ralph Barbosa Returns!

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Fuck that.

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Ralph Barbosa Returns!

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Yeah, he skipped it.

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Ralph Barbosa Returns!

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Uh-huh. Wait, you need someone else to do that? That's crazy.

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Ralph Barbosa Returns!

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That's literally what Forrest Gump would do.

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Ralph Barbosa Returns!

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Ralph Barbosa Returns!

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Ralph Barbosa Returns!

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That's a really good way to look at it.

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You just hit liquid that the other day.

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Nate Bargatze!

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Yeah, yeah. What was the supermarket you went to growing up?

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Nate Bargatze!

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Yeah, yeah. It's always funny to see a comic. You go, oh, they're doing, oh, that's a new, ah, they're doing everything.

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Were you a soda family too at all? No.

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And then you go, are you messing with me right now? Yeah.

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Till when? Were you top or bottom too?

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Nate Bargatze!

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Same with like food. You're just like, ah, this is functional. I'm listening to music. I'm on a plane.

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Nate Bargatze!

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Everyone's decided this is good.

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Nate Bargatze!

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It's been vetted by the country I'm in. I'm not finding anything. I respect that. All right. Okay. Man, you are just a straight up the middle American kid.

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Nate Bargatze!

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Nate Bargatze!

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I did it too, man. And you get a group of like 21-year-old kids and they just put a bounty on you. Yeah. They'd be there just crawling. And it hits that cage. It's like that wrought iron, dude. It sounds like you're taking mortar shells.

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Two monsters. Did you play yourself, though?

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A water meter reader?

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Yeah, we came out very similar in the Village.

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Nate Bargatze!

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I love it. Okay. One thing I feel we missed. What was the first car, your first car?

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Nate Bargatze!

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All Southern guys always draw Old Hickory. Yeah, the specific town.

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Were these loose birds in the house or were they in a cage?

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Sounds like someone hit that bird with a frying pan.

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He said yes to every question we've asked him so far. No one's ever said, yeah, do you have any weird pets? All of them. Literally, no one's ever had a tarantula. Birds. Usually one is okay.

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One's enough to get it. Yeah, you're like, you failed that portion.

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Rest in peace, big dog. Yeah.

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All right. Okay.

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Nate Bargatze!

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You're like, this thing's doing miracles.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

2708.424

That's America's brand. Oh.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

2716.967

All right. Have you ever bought the floor model of a TV or an appliance? Like, hey, you knock off $200, I'll take this one right here. No box.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

272.679

What were you doing on top of the cliff?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

2798.967

Cover up the Miracle Whip smell. How many suits do you own? Gotta be a couple.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

2818.255

The audience loves to hear the come-up. I mean, those are humble beginnings.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

2872.251

If you had to put a number on the suit, it's like 20?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

2993.853

Sure. Sal Valcano said he's like, I'm done doing suits. I'll do a jacket maybe. And the t-shirt. And a pair of jeans.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

3030.029

be comfortable though?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

3047.52

No, we do not.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

3071.605

Mr. Brian Denny? Hit him with the hay hose. Great actor. Okay, how do you feel about the rotisserie chicken?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

3159.324

I mean... And McDonald's is the number one for you?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

3211.024

Threaten to leave the family.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

3416.653

I know. I was like, I mean, you've said yes to every single thing. It's nuts, dude. And you're like, yeah, but wait, there's more. That's every answer. Oh, we met in an Applebee's. Oh, you like Applebee's?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

3436.017

Okay.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

3462.915

You're just doing chicken Alfredo at Applebee's?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

3504.063

Will you do the potato skins?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

3510.627

Get out!

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

3598.883

If you could do one meal, it's your birthday, right? It's my birthday. Where are you going? Is it like a steak? Is it, you know, let's go get really good Italian pizza?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

3660.309

No, it's like it would go backwards.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

3663.092

No.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

3772.558

Okay, so yeah, you keep it fresh. Yeah, yeah.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

3830.876

You said you bowl.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

3868.262

I've heard people say it's a pretty, it's a fun movie.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

3907.964

All right. Any trophies on display at the house at the moment?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

3933.505

For sure. Of course.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

3982.812

How many specials he got. I know. That's what I'm saying. He sell it to Bridgestone Arena? Yeah.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

399.019

I have to say, one of the first Are You Garbage questions is, are you related to a clown? Yeah.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

4001.984

All right.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

4023.041

What was the venue?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

404.322

It was one of the original AYG questions.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

4054.498

What are we doing here? You open your eyes underwater in the pool.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

4067.511

An actual raspberry? Like a fruit?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

4069.352

We are very similar people.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

4165.859

I'm sure you're wondering.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

4176.545

How are you going to see the end of the pool?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

4181.247

Hit my head like an idiot. Yeah. Wow. I never thought it would. That makes sense. It's been a long time question, but the lack of goggles makes so much more sense because if you have goggles, you don't need to worry about it.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

4204.036

This kid's trash. There's nothing we could ask that would pull him out of this in the fourth quarter. Do you read? Are you a reader? No.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

4224.392

Gotta love a guy who can write a book and not read a book.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

4227.693

That's the American dream right there.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

4234.296

Have you ever saved a Crown Royal bag?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

4305.785

I mean, she met him at Applebee's.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

4311.628

Yeah, yeah. You prefer the pizza rolls or a bagel bite?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

4374.003

Until you got a check for five grand and you went out and bought like a Wave Runner or anything.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

4516.413

Kibby, what do you got for them? Guys, we're announcing tour dates early in January, so be sure to get those tickets. You can sign up for the email list at rugarbage.com. We love yous. We'll see you next time. Nate, we love you. Gang, we love you. We'll see you next week.

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Nate Bargatze!

54.968

Thanks for tuning in. As always, real quick, make sure you rate, view, subscribe on iTunes. Full video available on YouTube. Then, obviously, the greatest website of all time, www.patreon.com. It's a party over there.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

605.613

What do you mean by ran away?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

607.514

Like from her family?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

823.827

So they didn't even count as credits.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

845.837

And you fail?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

853.599

That 17 comes back into play a little bit.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

920.428

Let's get him out. For everybody involved, let's get him out.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

929.158

And it's a very small. And you didn't make the basketball team? That's real. That's nuts.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Nate Bargatze!

993.581

That's the place to be. Every comic comes to Astoria at least some point.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1020.319

Wait, the Indian guy's in the picture now? No. He's out again.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1028.488

Okay. How old are you right now? How old are you now?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1033.754

It's single dad. Single dad making some cash.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1036.577

You got to change schools.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1038.678

Okay, so no friction there.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1064.064

No, I'm not cooking. So we're talking... Okay, let's talk about Tushy, baby. Shout out to Tushy. Gang, what are you doing? Still wiping your ass like a caveman? Do yourself a favor. Get the world's number one bidet. I'm talking about Tushy.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

107.261

You got World's Dumbest and Degenerate.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

110.265

Lights Out with David Spade. Let's not forget 2019's Countdown. How you doing? Oscar snub right there. All right. Is it Cake WTF, the comedy store? She has not one but two amazing specials streaming on Netflix, Mother Inferior and Mom Jeans. And, of course, she is the co-host of Your Mom's House and the co-owner and operator of the industry titan YMH Studios.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1103.253

A toilet paper that sticks to your ass and all that stuff. That's how you get what we call in the business dingleberries.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1139.576

Kit, let's talk about Lucy, baby. Shout out to Lucy. Let's talk about 100% pure nicotine, no tobacco. Let's talk about the flavor capsule inside for a little bit of extra flavor, hydration. Gang, do yourself a favor. Sign up for a subscription for Lucy. Have it sent right to your door.

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Christina P!

1213.437

so you're just like a latchkey kid kind of and he's got a little bit of cash he's single went through a lot this is 80s yes got an accent yeah i would assume he's probably doing pretty well with the ladies slaying are they coming in and out like are women entering your life and cycling through that's her yes to the point where it's traumatized it's

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1243.417

No shit. He's juggling? He's got a couple of broads going at the same time?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1268.193

But there's food in the house, all that kind of stuff. He's rolling. It didn't sound great.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1291.16

There was the Hungry Man, the Swanson's, and then around the mid-80s, they started leaning into the healthier options. Lean Cuisine. I know my way around Lean Cuisine.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1301.665

Are you kidding? You know your way around a Lean Cuisine chicken alfredo, I would assume.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1311.249

Stouffer's.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1312.63

Of course.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1327.475

Delicious. Yeah, that stuff, that's game changing.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1330.176

Remember the coffee was in that tin?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1336.964

International Foods.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1341.894

That's pretty good. Yeah. The way they lit those commercials back then was so cinematic. It was the spotlight coming down.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1350.042

International foods.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

136.165

But the big question on everybody's mind today, is she garbage? First guest to ever come in here straight from the ER. I mean, that's a first. With stitches. Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Christina P. Yes.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1369.917

Let's get some. What are we doing? I know. We had it at the Super Bowl. We stayed in and watched the Super Bowl. I threw a couple of those in the oven and then cut them up into fours.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1383.642

So you would tell him what you wanted.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1386.804

You were shopping yourself?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1417.829

12 boxes of sugary cereal and a thing of thinking.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1430.157

I mean, in the 80s, a single dad, that's pretty good.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1435.46

She's lying and shit.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1437.761

milk in that milk in her just got back from vietnam it's 1987 what are you talking about okay all right so he takes you to the store yeah this is a this is a this is a story i would have to assume that there is an advantage being a kid of your dad not really being aware or not good not not giving a shit but like i assume you were able to get whatever cereal you wanted anything i wanted

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

148.81

Let's go. Thank you. Talk about the duality of man. Look at that. The rock on the finger with the ace bandage wrapped around it.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1500.859

You were in bowling shoes to school? Is that what you're telling us?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1504.884

Did you go through a wrestling shoes phase? What's the... Like wrestling shoes?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1510.17

Girls go through those? Yeah, a couple of... That was like a little bit of a thing. They're lesbians.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1522.338

She's wearing Kung Fu shoes. What are you talking about?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1542.632

Did you like to burn frogs, Christina?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1566.184

Any vacations? Would you guys go anywhere?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1599.284

Never do shot before dinner, okay?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1607.686

These broads will never know what hit them. Wait, hold on. Would you... Did you ever go back to Europe as a vacation?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1616.449

I like how you're like, yeah, I was well-traveled.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1628.398

He probably loved it. For some reason, I love that he was living like that, going through all that shit. Think of how much he appreciated that. Tight little bathing suit, bunch of hot broads down at Club Med. Man, hairy-ass chest, I assume.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1710.755

Yeah.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1715.398

Yeah, it was more psychological.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1744.815

You have build home in one night? That's crazy.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1748.256

I'm done with the accent.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1767.687

Meanwhile, you're stealing their wallet. What would a typical dinner be at a bar like that? Some mozzarella sticks, some chicken fingers.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

181.62

We're not talking about a gardener's snake or something like that.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1830.442

Wait, in third grade?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

184.123

Copperheads in the backyard.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

186.585

What are you doing back there?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1878.398

Yeah, they were home watching the A-team last night.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1883.921

Wait, so a Christian school?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1890.308

Uniform the whole nine yards?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1896.274

What did you get kicked out for?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1898.876

Who gets kicked out of public school and goes to Catholic school? That's the reverse. That's crazy.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1917.446

Oh, OK. So you got three new steps getting along with them at all.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1921.588

Nice. A relief. How much older are they than you or younger than you?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1935.118

And your mom kind of levels off a little bit? She's doing okay?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1941.323

Okay.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1942.464

Her focus, her... Yeah, crazy focus is not on you. Now it's on the... Are you back living there? Do you move in with them?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

1958.261

Girls at divorce do that. Indian stepdad does well?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2054.36

Where do they meet? This is the best part. Interpol. So she puts an ad.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2076.838

Puts an ad in the paper.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2108.556

For marriage.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2109.897

They hear that shit. They're coming running.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2123.227

I was wondering what buxom meant.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2179.171

One month.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2249.537

You don't have to tell me. I don't. You're Indian?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2272.309

Why?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2274.891

Oh. It was like payback.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2277.652

So going to get the ice cream was a partial cover.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

230.139

I was told you got cut.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

232.64

You have an active snake bite right now?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2342.421

It's like the slashed tires.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2348.966

Whatever he did. Hey, Kippy. Yeah. Let's talk about pretty litter. I'll take the lead on this because I got a nice kitty cat at home and she loves that pretty litter. Let me tell you the real story. Here's is I pulled it back the fourth wall a little bit. All right. Before Pretty Little became a sponsor, we were using something else. Bozo stuff. Bozo stuff. It stunk. It was clumped up.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2369.919

It was heavy bringing it upstairs. It would get everywhere. Then Pretty Little comes along. I got the cat in the family. I take it home. I tell the broad, I'm like, hey, we got a new sponsor. She sees it. She's like, oh, my God, pretty litter. She's going nuts. I'm like this broad screwballs. She throws that in there. Man, it's absolutely fantastic. It lasts long. All right. It's not heavy.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2394.555

The crystals are phenomenal. And if there's something going on with the cat's urinary tract, the crystals are going to let you know. They can indicate.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

242.262

Wait, you're fucking with us, right? You sprained your hand at the gym. Of course I'm fucking.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2425.457

I'm going to talk to you about Mando. I'm talking to you big boys out there. And big gals. Deodorant is not just for your pits anymore, all right? It's 2025. You stink. I stink. There's a lot of cracks and crevices. We're talking about folds. It's spicy. We're talking about aromas that are unpleasant to the smell. So do yourself a favor. Get Mando. It's the all-over body deodorant.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2452.218

You can use it just about anywhere. Don't brush your teeth in it, obviously, but you can use it just about everywhere else, and it's absolutely fantastic.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

246.584

You son of a bitch.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

249.565

Man, I believe you. That was so fun. You gotta be kidding. I believe that 100%. Because there are snakes and spiders down here. That's why you'll never find my fat ass living here.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2534.721

Would you say, so what was the hassle? You said you moved from... A two bedroom to... Oh, sorry.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2544.767

You guys are rich. All of a sudden, bang, you're rich.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2598.908

I'm sorry? Where'd all those properties and stuff go?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2603.21

Okay.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2604.45

All right.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2759.708

You're going to be real sorry when you're running a toner, I'll tell you that.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2788.715

Did other family come over? Or, like, once the wall fell and all that stuff, you guys, I guess, reconnected with your family over there? Or were some of them over here?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2808.098

Okay.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2812.501

I get that a little bit.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2861.451

What?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2883.838

Yeah, shop girl.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

291.2

So instead of getting bit by a cottonmouth, you were stabbed by your son. I don't know what's worse. He got into a knife fight with a nine-year-old.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2921.61

What was high school? Were you a good student in high school?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

2971.756

This is when you're in the nice house, though. You're out of the apartment and all that stuff, right?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

301.714

Wait, hold on a second. Yeah. They like to play with knives, but you don't. Yeah.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3013.812

I take you dentist.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3073.786

If I came out in the morning and my mom's windshield was shot out, I'd have some questions before I got on the bus. I know. You're like, all right.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

308.222

Why buy them knives?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

310.544

Wait, you just walk in and catch them. Like, what are you doing?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3102.468

Okay.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3105.39

Nice. Good.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3121.628

I got an 870. Yeah. Studying my ass off.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3151.561

What's the first concert? Do we know the band? Were they like a big goth band?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3159.243

The Smiths.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3170.306

Depeche Mode.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3172.307

Am I close?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3174.127

Huh.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3178.969

Pixies. I don't know. Hit us.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3183.53

Ah! Wow. That was right there. That's a great one. And more pop at that point, too. If we're splitting hairs.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3192.172

I think pictures of you would already come out.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3212.356

Wait, this is when Roseanne's on the air, it's popping?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3215.636

The height of Roseanne. And that was a height.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3252.122

That was a good, that was a good bit in the eighties.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3273.047

And we took a limousine being able to go to the to the cure concert.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3285.513

I wish I was in love with him when I was a kid. No, you were there. And he was shut.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3290.775

I loved him. No, he was before he got heavy. So he was thin. He had the under eye makeup and the hair.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3300.119

I wanted to be him.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3301.961

Dude, Boys Don't Cry, that killed me.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3305.723

Ah, I loved that shit.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3308.165

Loved it.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3316.949

yeah so that was that and i wrote good songs what do you want from me he's amazing yeah they were great but pictures of you i heard the first time uh my the night of my prom we were taking acid in like a like a house after the prom and that song came on and i was like man that's a fucking hit you want acid at the prom or after at prom and after prom yeah how did you survive I don't know.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3341.504

It was kind of my thing back then.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3344.267

I used to wrestle in high school on it.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3346.91

Yeah.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3348.871

Good amount.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3350.012

Yeah, I'm a little screwball, to be honest with you. Both of us are pretty fucked up.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3371.281

fentanyl now or whatever i'm like dude we fried our brains with lsd sure that's real and a formative year it's like 14 15 16 the first time i took it was when i was a senior in high school and i loved it and i was like at certain times on it i was like at my i was the best possible version of myself on it i know that sounds crazy no like i was no doc ellis you know doc ellis Doc Ellis. No.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

340.201

Maybe like 2002. Do you remember when Avon was banging? Of course. When your mom sold Avon? Skin So Soft? Remember Skin So Soft? That shit kept everything alive.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3400.336

Oh, yes, of course. Okay.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3405.904

I thought we were on to something. These cameras aren't even on right now. Yeah, no, honestly, I felt like I was at my best self. I also feel like the acid at that time from like 93 to 97, they had to mix right or something.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3427.39

But it was all right.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3433.593

Sure. The dead stopped torn. It was all over.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3439.555

100%. Our college was right outside of Philadelphia. I went to college right outside of Philadelphia. And the fraternity I was in, they were kind of like stoner, deadhead-y kind of guys. Whenever the Grateful Dead would come in, the two weeks before it and the two weeks after it, the drugs were flowing like water and it was all top shelf good stuff.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3464.69

Put that on the brochure. University of San Francisco. Jugs are good.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3477.316

So The Cure was your first concert, Dodger Stadium.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3482.018

Took a limo.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3484.699

Did you ever go to the set? You go to the set of Roseanne?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3495.485

I mean, it was such a, it was such a big, she was so big.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3498.567

That was like the first time in a while from like the late seventies where they showed a family that wasn't doing well.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

350.045

She didn't, but she was a big purchaser of Skin So Soft used as an insect repellent.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3566.121

You went to Tom Arnold and Roseanne's wedding.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

357.409

It had that funk to it. I don't know what it was. Mosquitoes hated it. A lot of microplastics.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

36.263

Hey, everybody out there, and welcome back to everybody's favorite podcast. This is Are You Garbage?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3620.376

Those two wreaked havoc at ABC for a minute when that whole thing was going on, when they were together.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3648.234

Oh, we're aware. Thanks, Snakebite.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

365.712

Okay. So go ahead.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3683.588

Sure, and just to stay on that note, on the Roseanne tip, what was your use when you started making... Money. Was there a crazy, irresponsible, stupid, trashy purchase? We didn't need the hot tub or the wave runner.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3708.001

So the first big check you didn't go out and buy like.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3715.709

That's pretty good.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3731.497

Sure. I just started putting them out again.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3734.519

You did? One of the new ones or you got an old one?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3736.9

You did.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3805.282

Whoa.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3807.022

I had a cool kid car. Volkswagen Rabbit.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3812.078

Yeah.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3814.1

Can you drive stick?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3819.565

I'm surprised you can't drive stick. Yeah. Eastern European.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3828.574

Left side. That's crazy. What was the first card?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3849.151

An 87 Chevy Nova. That's crazy. That's like a stuntman's car. I wish.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

385.785

Because you just got out of the ER right now. So you wrote it out for the night? Oh, man, you are trash.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3916.406

In December.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3935.061

You roll your own, like, drums? It was all pipes. Marlboro Reds. My dad smoked Marlboro Reds. We smoked Marlboro Reds.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3944.303

Reds. And then mediums, when they kind of became fashionable, a little bit like maybe like college or whatever.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3950.365

Yeah.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3956.346

He was a nom, so he was a Reds man. He'd lay on the floor watching TV like this, just ripping heaters. Oh. Yeah.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3983.524

No, there's not.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

3987.385

Coffee and cigarettes? A Percocet, a cup of coffee, and a cigarette in the morning. That's what's up, bro. Talk about Christmas all year round.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

400.554

These problems are above our pay grade. This isn't therapy. I got an Adderall upstairs if you want it. That's the best we can do for you.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4002.263

Also one of my biggest regrets. Had your biggest life regret? Yeah. Never got my hands on any lemons. Yeah, I got you.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4009.21

Yeah.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4029.645

Valley Bertinelli's house? That's nuts. So bad. Nine years old.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4039.833

It's very interesting.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4062.992

Yeah, you know. No, we're looking for cash. You need cash. A monetary value.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4100.577

I don't want to trash anybody. We'll talk off air.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4103.379

Yeah. Shmonan O'Brien. Not a great tipper. Really? Oh, man.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4115.527

Not a good tip.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4128.59

I'll tell you who is Sarah Jessica Parker.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4131.631

Phenomenal.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4133.271

Sweetheart, too.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4135.592

She's great.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4137.112

Because I waited tables. He doesn't know her. No, I don't know her.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4145.836

When we first got to New York, I was waiting tables in this nice cafe in a good part of the West Village. So there was a lot of people in.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4162.383

Really? No kidding. Christopher Lloyd?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4168.545

Bradley Cooper, great tipper. Oh, very good. Chaz Palminteri, fantastic. See? He's a great guy. Yeah. We had him on the show. That was our first celebrity. And the guy that does the Mayhem commercials on Allstate, Dino.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4181.29

He's got cash. Cash. Cash. Great tipper. Cash. Cool dude, though.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4189.123

Yeah. Would you dance at the wedding?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4195.98

That's a great answer. That's when you know you got a problem. I didn't say would you run through a play class window.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

42.148

It's our little show. We sit down with your favorite comedians, and we find that they're going to be classy.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4206.793

I stopped having fun. Told you I'm off the value.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4210.818

Holy shit.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4225.411

That's the classiest answer right there. I'm not coming. Here's a check. Don't cash it till Thursday.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4254.045

You guys have a lava lamp in your room? Is there a beanbag chair in there too?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4260.811

Holy shit.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4298.719

Is that your day-to-day?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4302.058

You got them in that and they're eating French fries back there? Because I'm garbage. I don't realize. Holy shit.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4317.991

Yeah.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4320.633

White tea? Is that what you're going at? No. Nice hotels smell like white tea?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4336.745

Do you guys have air fresheners in the house, like those plug-in things? Yeah. If you're something nice?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4366.259

I mean. I almost ate one of those a couple of times. Yeah, that are like the ones that are like soap, but they were in like... Sometimes you would get them at weddings. Yeah. They would be in like those almost like... Like shell shapes? Yeah, like pantyhose things. Like netted kind of. They'd be wrapped in something like that.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4382.917

Yeah.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4414.414

It's like the, yeah. You didn't have any plastic on the furniture.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4458.417

I've seen that on the show a couple times, you in a Burberry blazer.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

446.013

What's he say? What does Tom say?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4468.328

So that would be the things that you splurge on? I like that. You like looking nice, dressing nice.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4472.793

You got the walk-in closet, all that kind of stuff?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4475.655

His and her, I can't remember if you were asking Tom, his and her sinks in the bathroom? Got to.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

449.116

Because he would have been go to the ER right now, I would assume.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4535.703

That's where I put my contacts and it drives my wife crazy. I just take them out at night and put them right next to my bed.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4541.73

Oh, you have contacts?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4585.712

I believe you coined that.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4590.636

I think he said his mom did it. That's crazy.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

46.552

Or they're just a big old piece of trash.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4677.714

I got bit by a Perrier last night.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4683.558

Sparkling water or club soda?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4687.201

I don't know. There's a difference between Pellegrino and a fucking Schweppes seltzer.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

469.394

He flips his blade.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4694.892

Swept seltzer back in the day. Pellegrino about six weeks ago.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4710.13

You getting a bottle of sparkling, a bottle of still?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4712.773

You're not doing the tap at a restaurant.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4753.211

I was waiting tables. I would eat off people's plates all the time.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4758.452

You probably did it last week. I know.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4761.772

Always, yeah. If it was like a hot chick or a good looking dude, I'm in.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4767.15

I would eat everything.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4768.792

Yeah.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4770.394

Yeah. Bad. That's so disgusting. You're pooping on yourself. What are you talking about?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4798.982

A rained on Sig?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

480.402

Wrap it up?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4815.908

Kimmy, what are you thinking so far? What do you think she's sitting at? Just out of curiosity.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

482.023

Now, what is your home method of wrapping something up? I'm assuming it's some type of paper towel, hand towel, old rag.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4833.243

Yeah, that trifecta going around. The applause from them.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4839.508

You two are both crying. They stand.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4870.675

I can't believe you're still throwing the sticks next to the bed. You got a nice house. You're doing well.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4899.688

What are the name brands on the tracksuits? What do you like?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

49.334

I'm your host, H. Lilly, coming at you on a beautiful day. We're down here in Tejas. Texas, baby. Austin D. Tootie South. She's out doing a little speculating.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4943.7

Yeah, at some point.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4951.385

I got to say, which there's been a dethroning of Garbage Queen over the last couple of months. You had Jordan Jensen. You had Adrian. But man, you're coming in number one.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4962.111

The new Garbage Queen.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4963.892

Christina P., everybody. Look at you. Her Majesty, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

4996.128

Still holds those tendencies. A lot of fast food getting delivered to his house these days.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

507.237

Try to get creative with the Band-Aids. Those never, when you're doing the four one way, three the other. You're reinforcing them and stuff like that.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5098.326

You're complaining about the entree. It's no TGI Friday. Ladies, get the potato skins and keep it moving.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5111.655

I feel like Chili's popped after they popped, so they really had that advantage to take it up a notch.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5117.539

You know what I mean? Who? Chili's. After who, Pop? After, like, Fridays. Yeah, Friday.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5123.382

They were kind of like the second wave.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5136.209

Are you cooking at all at the house? Yeah, I do cook. You're cooking?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5139.49

What did you have for breakfast this morning?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5145.973

What do you make for the kids?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5190.62

What about the Knorr noodles that were in, like, the packet?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5195.844

Top Ramen, okay.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5202.848

You call it shaky cheese?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5206.731

Let me ask you both this, because I thought about this the other day, because when me and my wife were sick, we had Top Ramen.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5213.656

We had Top Ramen. I got it. When did you realize... that that wasn't actual ramen. When was the first time that you put it two and two together? Oh, real ramen. This is a version of this is a fast food version of real ramen right now.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

522.444

You got to the ER. Who put these six Garfield band-aids on you?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5229.12

Really?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5232.861

Yeah, I just said that's that was like their that's their craft macaroni and cheese of ramen.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5240.663

She's got to go late.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5243.623

Have you ever had ramen, like real ramen?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5253.851

Wait, do you guys have the Green Craft shake cheese in your house right now?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5267.52

That's crazy. You got good stuff in the house too, though, right?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

531.406

You know what you needed was a butterfly. Oh, shit. Remember that in the day your mom would break out a butterfly on you? Yeah. She was like a fucking cardiac surgeon doing that shit.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5320.289

Let's go get some of those. You'll microwave a hot dog, I assume? Of course you do. Yeah. Is there any other way to make a hot dog?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5333.675

Yeah, we did. We did the best way to cook a hot dog video for Patreon. And we did that as just a little bonus. I just kind of want to win.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5359.048

Little Shire Farms.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5362.931

That meant when Hickory Farms was banging.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5385.97

You walk around in H-E-B, you're walking around in there on a Saturday.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5397.939

Pop-Tarts or Toaster Shroodles?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5422.767

That was rich kid shit, though. We weren't getting that. We got off brand pop tarts. We got those.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5428.153

You suck.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5438.982

You started doing that with oatmeal, too. They gave icing for oatmeal like in the nineties. Remember that the kids would do the swirl around the oatmeal?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5474.471

What an unbelievable life. What an unbelievable tale. Look where you are now. It's absolutely insane. You are the absolute best, and we love you, buddy.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5483.919

Anything you want to hit the folks out there with?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

5506.136

Gang, we love you. Christina, again, we love you. And we'll see you next week.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

568.76

You went and got your fucking teeth cleaned every year with the bubble gum fluoride.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

60.103

I want to be a land man down here.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

608.979

That's crazy. We're about the same age. You weren't getting the bubble gum fluoride, something out of the treasure chest?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

62.185

Billy Bob Thornton. We're down here in Austin, Texas. My co-host is coming at you from right next to me. He is the CEO of RU Garbage. What? He is an international businessman and my best pal in the whole wide world. Give it up for KJ. Kevin James Ryan, everybody.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

625.585

All right, let's go back.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

627.888

Before we go, though, how many stitches do you have?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

641.702

And they gave you a little Novocaine when they did it?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

644.324

Anything else for later to give you? Dude, I wish.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

654.995

Brought you a script for a Percocet and a White Claw? Be all right in a couple hours. All right, let's go back. Give us the origin story. Up the middle, mom's, dad's, brother's, sister's, grew up, all that kind of stuff.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

717.623

So they hold on. They get to Canada. Then they start a new life.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

723.986

Okay.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

746.479

My man, what's going on, huh? Give me high four. Okay. Good to see you. That's awesome. Talk about appreciating the small things.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

755.686

A fucking refugee camp in Italy. Getting out of fucking communist fucking the Soviet Union.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

809.252

To Detroit?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

81.24

Video on Spotify.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

811.414

For the good life, baby. Detroit. See it right there. Talk about refugees. What does your mom and dad do? What does your dad do by trade? What does he do for a living?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

850.226

Wait, so Ontario, you're four, you moved to Cali.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

853.627

Okay.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

87.284

We love you. Yeah, we love you. And gang, we couldn't be more excited to have our incredibly, and I mean incredibly special guest here with us today for the first time. Thank you. She is a very funny, very successful stand-up comedian, podcaster, writer, producer, and small business owner. And you might have seen her in it, but not limited to. You got Last Comic Standing. You got Chelsea Lately.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

910.772

I didn't have one of those until like two years ago, man.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

920.515

That's probably not that bad.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

923.497

That's all right.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

925.119

That's like a cheesesteak egg roll, basically.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

927.12

We could be doing more with those samosa wraps. We really could. I know.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

931.144

There's a lot of stuff around the table.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

932.925

Buffalo chicken samosas? You should marry an Indian guy and get this thing started. Small business. Wait, hold on. So you move four years old. You guys moved to California. Your dad starts the business. How long till the business is like... When you say... You said he was the biggest in the area?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

950.336

Mom's not working.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

982.516

Okay. So he's doing well. He's still taking care of you guys. He's taking care of your mom. He just wants to do his own thing.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

988.523

He's involved in your life.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

Christina P!

990.284

Gotcha. Okay.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

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1008.796

Who was it you killed? Tony. What a triple murder. So Tony, you killed Tony three times?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

AYG Goes to Prison - Are You Garbage Patreon (FULL)

1014.277

And his two buddies. What were their names?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

AYG Goes to Prison - Are You Garbage Patreon (FULL)

1017.757

That's a crew rolling together.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

AYG Goes to Prison - Are You Garbage Patreon (FULL)

1019.397

Tony, Rick, and Steve.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

AYG Goes to Prison - Are You Garbage Patreon (FULL)

1020.278

What do they do?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

AYG Goes to Prison - Are You Garbage Patreon (FULL)

1021.558

They're triads. So now you got the triads after you. No, we squashed it. I made a deal. They wanted me to kill them. What business did you have with the triads? Powder. Baby? Yeah. A couple bugs. They were ripping off. They were in the triads. They were ripping the triads off. I got caught up in some shit. Aren't the triads Chinese? What?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

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1044.755

So Tony, Rick, and Steve are all high-end members of the triads.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

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1051.241

Why do you think they wanted them out?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

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1057.0

Tony Yang, by the way. Anthony Yang. Tony Yang and Rick and Steve Chan, the Chan brothers. I don't think that was their real first name.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

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1066.813

They were twins, but they look alike. Couldn't tell them apart. I'm sorry. Hey, good guys.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

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107.445

Say hi to the people.

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Well, they weren't good guys. But you killed them. I had to. Why? They were ripping you off? They weren't ripping me off.

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Who were they ripping off?

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They were ripping off the triads. So you stepped in on the triads' behalf. That's why I'm protecting you, so don't fuck around, or I'll fucking bug you.

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You're already doing that. I got a fucking all-day sentence of that.

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Fucking bugging me all day, dude. Shank it. With a bone. Yeah, that's what I'm in for. Okay. I'm doing it all day. You should know this one. What? A kite. A kite. They're flying kites. They're flying. It means they're bringing over shit. Uh-huh. They fly a kite over and drop the bag in the yard and you go pick it up real quick.

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This is all drugs with you. What do you mean?

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Fucking asshole. I think you sealed your own fate when you killed Tony and Rick and Steve Chan.

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No. It's Tony Chan. That's a double cross, dude. Tony Yang and the Chan brothers. Rick and Steve. Where'd you kill them? Chinatown. Little Italy.

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It's right outside of Mulberry Street. Yeah, that's where I did it. In an alley back there with a katana sword. That's all I had with me. All right.

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All right. Flying kites. They're flying kites. You know this one? It's a lot of rap lyrics.

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Learn from a kite. Learn from a kite?

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Could you use it in a sentence, please? Country of origin.

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Guantanamo Bay. Sing, sing.

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Fly in a kite. They're flying a kite. Isaiah, use it in a sentence. I got it. I think it's a prison guard. It's a 50 cent real CEO face. CEO. Keep these tossing cells.

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Man, you really are a ham, dude. Shout out to you. I fucking love you. I fucking hate my co-hosts at the moment.

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Open up that butthole.

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That's the first mistake. I ain't texting. I ain't writing anything down. Okay.

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Do my talk, do my shit.

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Oh, this one's pretty good. Ninja Turtles. Pooping. Drugs.

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A bag. Ninja Turtles. Uh-huh. Killers. Boys are coming. Dudes that try to sneak away in the sewers.

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It's like Pictionary all over again.

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I don't think that's happened enough to be a name for them.

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It's about the guards. They wear masks. Dressed in full riot gear. Also known as hats and bats. I got hats and bats on. Fucking turtles coming down, dude. Ninja Turtles coming down.

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Do you? It's a bad day for you, if we're being honest with you. I don't think that's true at all. Okay. How is it a bad day for me? Luke, can you run down his statistics so far today?

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Mexicans got on boots. Shout out to Ali Sadiq.

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Ali Sadiq.

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Mm-hmm. Okay. Peels. Peels? Yeah, P-E-E-L-S. Peels. Peels. Can you use it in a sentence? The boys got their peels on. The boys got their peels. The little socks that have sticky things on them. You want to get one in the cell?

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In a hospital? I don't think... I don't think the prisons are worried about their traction.

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No. Am I close? What's peels? Give me what are peels? Orange peels. There you go. Where's all that good guessing now, huh, gang? Where's all that good fucking guessing?

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Envelopes.

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When he doesn't have my great writing to rely on, this is what he does. Drawing. Envelopes. What? You're wearing envelopes on your feet. Peels. And he's a good guesser. Hold on. It was my amazing artistic skill and forethought and quick wit. Stop bringing up old shit. To draw. In the goddamn joint. To draw exactly what he needed to make the first guess and second guesses at 2-4.

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Flip flops.

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No, orange. Orange peels. What's orange in jail?

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Jumpsuits. There you go.

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They got their peels on. They're in the orange jumpsuits. What would you do? With the laptop?

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Goddamn know-it-all? I mean, I'd probably have to. What are you in for? You're cooking the books. Embezzlement. So we're not going to fucking, we're not going max security, right?

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Those were big books I was cooking.

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We're going to a country club. It's still, I don't.

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Are we? Country club's not federal. Yeah, no, we're doing fed.

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Yeah, it is. Where were they sent? Jordan Belford.

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I'm not going to that pussy shit. What?

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You want the smoke? I want Pelican Bay. Send me with the bullies.

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I'd say it's barely run of the mill, but he came in, insulted me.

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Give me liberty. Give me that.

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Lock up roll.

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Country club prisons are private prisons for profit.

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Ooh. So you have to pay for that. I don't think.

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Because you killed Tony Stevens. It's not a nonviolent crime. It's a triple homicide.

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You were in bed with the triad.

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You can't be trusted. I don't know what you're saying. I don't even know you anymore.

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I want to go to the country club, though.

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Learn tennis. I'll work in the... What would you do there?

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Right away.

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You're a prison wolf.

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What's that mean?

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It's pretty cool, right? There's a prison wolf.

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Case showed up an hour and 12 minutes late. I did not show up an hour and 12 minutes late. I was 12 minutes late. No, what time were you supposed to be here? 10 a.m. Buttons at 11 was what I got. And, yes, but that means we show up at 10, we pow, we have a heater, we talk shit.

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Do you know what it is? You're howling at the moon.

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Blowing dudes. Yeah. Is it? Prison wolf is an inmate who's normally straight on the outside, but engages in sexual activity with men while incarcerated. He's also a New York wolf, too.

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Goddamn right. Wait a minute. What would be your angle when you get there? I'd probably have to... Where would you want to work? I'd shoot to fade real quick. Get a haircut? Take a little off the top.

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You got a Gumby in there?

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Hey, guys. Now you got to fight somebody.

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First of all, you get your ass beat, and then you're going to be the guy's bitch. No, but you're respected for fighting.

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That's what A$AP Rocky said when he was at Rikers. Oh, my God.

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I'll be in the country club prison.

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What do you got? What do you mean, what do I got? You said you were looking up what to... Yeah, I think you got to fight. No. I'm telling you. I'm going to get a nice job in the hospital. Patch Adams.

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Yeah, I'm doing something like that.

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Yeah, because that's what they want. You in there bugging everybody.

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How to be personable. How to kill your friends that you're dealing drugs with. All right, I want to backpedal on that. No, tough guy.

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I'm not going the tough guy route. As soon as you mention the wolf thing.

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Script change. I don't go to fucking pound town.

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You can't just become a counselor. Yeah, you can. You got to go to school. You didn't enroll in school. Woodworking. Where would you want to work? Woodworking? What do you mean? I could teach acting. I could put on a play. You're in jail.

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Yeah. Put on a play. Fucking double dildo show. What are you talking about? Put on a play. Hey, Simple Jack.

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My new plate tear gas. One man show.

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Okay. I think you got to fight. I'm not fighting. Bitch it up. Find out if you have to fight your first day in jail.

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Well, you got to fight. Like, if someone steps to you.

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Yeah, if someone tries to do what you call on the outside a microaggression, you got to fucking, you got to stand up for yourself. Then you get more time and all that stuff. No, you go in the bathroom, you shoot the fade, they respect it.

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I'm shooting the fade. I'll fight myself. You end up taking a dump. I got my hairs kicked and shit myself. Good thing I'm in the bathroom.

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So you did come in. You did come up to work. We didn't start until 12.15. So there was the hour.

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I'm blowing dudes.

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That's your job.

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Like a fat girl at a fucking Sticks concert.

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Gentlemen. You got fucking Kool-Aid on your lips. I like it.

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Set the mixed signals.

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Hang on a second.

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That's because you guys were talking. Yeah. Okay. All right. Sure. About peanut butter or something like that, whatever you were talking about. There's about 12 talk-to-texts that I didn't need to hear that I've heard. About 15 reels. I'm sorry. I'm conducting business. Are you coming to the show? That's what I'm getting. Who are you coming with?

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He was a high-end tax attorney.

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I'm like Brooksie. I run the library. I'll raise a bird.

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I'll give you a bird.

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I'll be blowing a bird. Fucking eating bird all day, dude.

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Yeah, some shit like that. Okay. I'll teach people. They're going to see your fat ass waddle in and be all over you, dude.

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This guy's got no self-discipline. He'll do anything for a piece of candy.

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That's funny you bring that up. I have a list of the commissary. Ooh, all right, now we're talking.

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United States Penitentiary, Atwater, California commissary shopping list. Way more on here than I ever expected.

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$6.40 for a 12-pack? It's not bad. Better than Walmart. This place ain't so bad.

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You got that charging out there?

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Boys, I'd rather be in here with you guys. Mountain Dew Spark is just getting discontinued.

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Yeah, it's all shit that Pepsi's getting rid of. Sorry.

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Drinking fucking winter Coca-Colas in fucking August.

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Is that cinnamon?

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We were with somebody. I was with somebody last night after a spot, and they went to get pizza, and they grabbed a...

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Coconela? Spiced.

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Oh, dude. We passed it around the table.

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It tasted like cough medicine. It was horrible. He went in and was like, I can't drink this, man. It was red. There was like a little pink at the top or something. Tried to return it? He did. I was like, dude, go get another one. I'm not going to watch you drink this. Is it like Christmas spice?

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Yeah, but it's like Robitussin. I think Tom Cassidy said it's a little Robitussin-y. Well, get that tussin in him.

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I got a lot. It's the ice cream. Okay.

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Twix ice cream. Ooh. M&M ice cream.

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You got your electronics. Electronics you can buy? You get a tablet, probably for reading, a radio, an MP3 player, or a Casio watch.

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I mean, I don't think it's a boombox.

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They steal your shit.

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You're a fucking prison wolf. Howling at the full moon tonight, boys.

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It's the pack of Skittles. That's it. Keep it in your pocket. I don't know what year this is from.

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I'll be eating them one at a time out of my pocket.

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You're doing that thing where you slow chew. You put it in and don't chew it right away. You know this? That must be high stakes.

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Fucking something else.

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But I love you.

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I killed you guys.

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Thanks, buddy.

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You know the chants?

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You don't want to fuck with me. Bad toop.

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I was talking to Luke. What did I insult you about?

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Playing it real cool.

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You do this.

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Pass it off.

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Food items. Here we go. There's a lot, so I'm going to run it down pretty quick. Hold on. This is commissary or this is at the snack shop? This is commissary. This is what you can buy. Okay. The snack shop. What do you mean?

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That's when you know you're wrong.

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What did I insult you about?

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This is updated June 29th, 2023. All sales are final, too. Limited to one each unless otherwise noted.

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Came in late, said, oh, are these cameras set up, dickhead? That's exactly what he said. Hey, got me there. It's good.

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Start some scam. No guy coming in is getting that job right away.

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Hey, everybody out there, and welcome back to everybody's favorite podcast. This is Are You Garbage? Great. It's that little show we sit down with your favorite comedians, and we find it good to be classy.

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Yeah, I guess the old fucking Red will be in there.

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All day. Damn.

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Yeah, Red doing it all day. Man, he was good in that Morgan Freeman. Whew.

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You got honey pepper, turkey log, shredded pork chorizo. You got bumblebee tuna. You got shredded chicken breast. Uh, Chinese lump chung sausage. I'll be doing a voice. You in the triads.

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I can't have a lump of chung for everybody. Get back in there, good gracious.

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He hit him with a poo-poo. Guys, let's put this all behind us.

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Oh, hold on a second. This big phone call. Hang on. Big phone call we were warned about.

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Okay. You got a mackerel pouch?

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Mackerel. Ew, the fish? Yeah. Ugh. You get jalapeno mackerel, oysters from Chicken of the Sea. That's crazy. Flour tortillas. You can get rice and cheese, rice, pepperoni slices.

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You think they got Hormel's in there? Kippy, like a nice slice of pepperoni.

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Get your shiv on you.

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I don't care if it's pepperoni. I'm going to have a slice. Kippy be eating. I'm a good boy. You got Spam.

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A turkey stick, squeezed peanut butter, chili with beans, refried beans, chorizo refried beans. What, are they cooking in the cell?

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All right. And we're back. Big man had to take care of some business.

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I don't know.

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That's not bad. I mean, like, you can make a decent menu. What? Any nudie mags? Condiments.

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You got mayo, dragon express soy sauce, honey, sweet and sour, hot chili, cream cheese, lemon juice, jalapeno peppers. Yellow chili peppers. Tito's hot dill pickles. I mean, this ain't. I've stayed at worse hotels. Ranch dressing packets.

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Minced garlic. Minced onions. Soul seasoning. Kill for half of that at a Hamptons Inn late night. Who's telling me? A little mackerel pouch. That's crazy.

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I got hot fries in jail. Cookies and crackers, snacks and nuts. I feel like if anybody sees you eating that shit, they're going to beat the shit out of you. No, I think everybody's eating it. But the problem is you buy it and then they go and steal it when you're in the shower. Yeah. I had three packs of fucking ramen there. What am I going to do? Shoot the face. Start wolfing it.

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You're hiding your stuff. Hey, someone stole my Cheetos. All right, I'll blow you. Man. Pretty nuts, dude. That's... All right, realistically, what would you want your job to be? I wouldn't want to work in a laundry room. I know that.

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Why? The sisters would get you. That's what I got them robbing.

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What was that, the call?

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Yeah, well, I want to do something good.

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Something that I want to show value to.

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I know what I would do if there was local radio. If there's an in-house radio show. I'm a broadcaster. I'm an entertainer. There's no local radio show. I'd start one.

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Write a letter to the senator. He's got a couple of airwaves in here.

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I'd make a podcast. Start a pod in there? Start a pod. I'd be riffing on everybody. Yeah, that shit. But fun.

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Sure. I got to jump on a call. Okay. My plant is sick. And I've had this plant for like eight years. The money plant? That's all I got. Is that the one?

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I'd get my ass kicked. Call the wrong guy a prison wolf.

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I'd be all over me. There's a few prison radio stations out there and podcasts.

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Really? That's what I would do. We'd clean up in there.

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I'd tell some bits or something.

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Hopefully we get sent to the same spot.

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I mean, listen, if it was me and you together in there, it'd be for the better of morale to let us fucking get in there and raz. We'd have to bring in new guy Luke, too.

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Frame him.

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That's not bad.

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Can't forget a birthday, though. No. Oh, you're jammed up. They're looking all year for that.

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The whole thing's birthdays. Everybody in there.

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Getting real cozy with the warden, too. Start working in his office. It's tough to get to, though. You think? The warden's not just, he's not taking office hours.

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I want to see if they have porn.

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No. No? You can't get your hands on a nudie, Meg?

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I don't think so. Maybe somebody sneak it in. Sure. Would you want them come visiting you? What? Would you want them come visiting you?

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Who's them? My wife? And her new husband. How you guys doing? Heard you got a small dick. Is that him to me? Insult injury?

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Back to the terms. Okay. See if I can get some stuff down here so I know what the hell's going on. I got the shiv. I got the bug.

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Stainless steel ride. Stainless steel ride. The toilet.

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No, that's pretty good.

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Pretty good, though.

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Gurney. That's so trashy. He's on a gurney. If you're on a gurney, you ain't making it. You're fucking jammed up. They took him out on a gurney. Stretcher. It's all right. When my mom says gurney, man, you got about 24 minutes to live. They took him out on a gurney.

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You definitely don't give it the thumbs up if you're fucked up.

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Took him out on a gurney. That's such a Philly trashy word in the Philly.

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Took him, and it's always whispered. They took him out on a gurney. That whenever the helicopter had to show up.

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They landed right in the jewels of life. They're going to need the jewels of life to get you out of there.

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Gave it herpes. Got a cold sore.

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They called you the Jaws of Life?

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Herpes and a bad attitude.

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Things cutting through metal. I didn't like it. Because I thought it ate the metal. Like, you know what I mean? I was like, it's just a big pair of scissors. You know what I mean? Which it kind of is. What?

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I thought it was like a machine that ate the metal. I didn't know. I was a young kid. A robot. Okay. What is a stainless steel ride? Wheelchair? Death by lethal injection.

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I've had it since I was a baby. It's like six feet tall now. I don't got any kids.

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I'm not getting that. Who knows? You could go bad for you in there.

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No, they don't give you a death penalty if you kill somebody in there. Yeah, they do. That's what you got to do. You psycho. I don't want to be in solitary. Are you in solitary?

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The walls would give up.

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Hey, guys.

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What? Where are you going? Yeah. Oh, God. I think there's only one or two mil. Mil? More. Oh, what's roadkill? That don't sound good. Can you get heaters in jail? Yeah. Smoke cigs in there. I think that might have changed, though. Oh, yeah. No. Got to be able to smoke a cig.

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I see what you're saying, but also, dude. I think it's state by state. Yeah. You can still buy tobacco and cigarettes on commissary in New York. Can you smoke in your jail cell? Can you just be cranking heaters?

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Rikers looks scary.

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You know them. No. Violent? No. Drugs? I forget exactly.

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Now your kid's got spiders.

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Why are you trying to pin him down? You're banned from smoking in prisons, but you can buy them in some states.

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Yeah. Wait, you're banned from smoking in prison?

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It's a fucking state building. They've been going into fucking City Hall and lighting up. Can you smoke out in the yard?

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I don't know, but then a lot of, like, guards, I guess, like, ask the union for the prison guards, like, allows them to smoke, so then there's, like, some... Yeah, it's probably, like, one of those gray areas where it's, like, you can buy fireworks in Pennsylvania as long as you don't live, like, you can't let them off or whatever.

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Well, they're selling them for sexual favors, apparently.

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No, that's not.

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Who's selling them? Inmates.

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Oh, yeah. Selling them to who?

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Oh, God. I guess I go in there and get an education and start reading. Go Muslim.

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You would be annoying. You'd be annoying the shit out of your fucking cellmate. You want top bunk or bottom bunk?

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There's a riot. Usually it was a battering ram. Everybody get behind you.

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Because there's some people that go to jail and lose weight. There's some people that come out fat because you're just sitting around eating all day. No, I'd tighten it up. Would you? With that list of snacks, yeah.

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And I've seen those turkey sausages with the guy making the stuff. The smoked links.

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You'd be talking on the toilet when you're in there? No. Do you know that?

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Yeah, I've seen that video. I love that video. I can't poop in there. I can't poop if somebody's watching me. Imagine my dumps in there. Jeez, they'd murder me just because of that.

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Smelly. I'd be pissing people off.

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What do you got? On average, 35% of the population was overweight.

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Yeah, but that's, I mean, I'm overweight. Look at me. I'm in great shape. Would you start running game? What do you mean? Trying to hoop? I'd shoot around. Yeah, but then it's like if I dunk on the wrong guy, the next thing you know.

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I'd do a 360 tomahawk on the fucking head of the Crips.

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I don't want to embarrass you in front of your friend. jammed up. I had to join the Aryan Brotherhood. I'd work in the hospital. Is that the only white gang in prison?

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From what I know from TV, let me do a little research.

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I don't think the Van Buren boys are in there. I'd want to join a gang, but clearly obviously not that one. You'd want to join a gang? For protection. You'd have to do something. What?

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I don't... You're going to blow that fat guy in cell three.

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Hello. Hello, Kevin. Is that it? It's got to be it, which is, that's a, you can't. Could you join the other gangs? Like, can I get into the Crips or the Bloods or something? I know. I think it's true.

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Come on, fellas. We don't have to be like this. We're all the same. I know. Hey, guys, what the hell, huh? It's a couple of normal guys.

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Seems like all the other white gangs are a subsidiary of the Aryan Brotherhood. Really?

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You already killed three Chinese guys.

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You know? Yeah, that sucks. For white guys in jail. Because that's the only one that's really based on not liking other races. Yeah. The Crips are like, hey, we just don't like any... We just really like the Crips. We're just not letting you in.

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Then I got all them wanting to kill you. I know. It's like you get a handful of guys with you, but then you... I want to hang out with those guys. All right. I got a couple prison survival guide rules. Okay. Number one. So apparently there are, I thought it was a Joe's like that fucking Kevin Hart, Will Ferrell movie. I go in a prison or whatever. Get hard. Get hard. Not bad. Pretty good.

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Listen, I'm gone.

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I'm running. I'm out. South America. Gone. Thailand. Bangkok. Hong Kong. I'm fucking slipping away. Fuck that. Okay. I ain't going to Canada. I don't like the food.

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I don't like those French fucks.

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Never change the TV channel without asking other inmates.

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Jesus Christ. I learned that from my dad. I got to get a fucking consultant to do that? Change the channel? You crazy?

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I'm fucking rocking the boat.

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He's like, I dropped.

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Waiting for you.

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You guys ever see this?

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He's a pickle. That's a great line. That's a great thing from Longish Yard. The real badass guy loves watching The View, and it cuts to Joey Bayhart, and he's smoking his thing. He goes, where did she come up with this shit?

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Where did she come up with this shit? Okay. Don't touch the TV. Don't touch the TV. Got it.

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Roger that.

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The bird wearing something sexy. A little half-braced disky. Something like a watch on the ring cam later.

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Never reach across another inmate's food tray.

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Okay. Dining halls can hold hundreds of inmates at a time and are frequently where riots and disturbances jump off. This guy's using the lingo. I was sitting in an inmate dining hall at a four-man table for lunch in Safford, Arizona. I watched in amazement as a newly arrived inmate sitting next to me reached across the table, reaching over another inmate's food to grab a salt shaker.

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I got the olive oil on the table.

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It's true. You didn't do shit about it, did you, pussy?

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I shouldn't have blew you.

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That's what it taught me. No, I did. I said, get the fuck off.

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I told you we were friends. I can't maneuver. I got to chill.

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So, oh, hold on. I mean, this is nuts. That was not the call. I mean, what call are you waiting for?

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My ass cheeks were already in that. Don't matter. Rubbing it in. Give me stiff fucking pink eye. Spread my butthole when I sat on it.

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Bare ass. All right. This is what you can take with you into prison and what you have to leave behind. Most medications you're allowed to take. Okay. I take my Nexium. Heartburn City. I think you can buy that in the comments. You can buy all that. You can buy Tums and all that kind of stuff. It's a prescription. Oh, really?

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Over-the-counter medications. They have to supply all that shit, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That was actually a reason they don't want people smoking, because they have to pay for all the health, medical care.

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Yeah, that makes sense. Get a cough, something like that. That cough. I'd be fucking two packs a day Kipperino in there. Trying to get some hospital time?

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It says, don't plan on bringing anything with you other than clothes, glasses, and possibly a list of medications. Be further warned. Don't try to sneak anything in. You will be thoroughly searched on your way in, and very few things are worse than making a first impression than smuggling and contraband.

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What about my wallet? Your wallet? I got your fucking meat wallet on you, bud.

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That's my meat wallet.

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You're an asshole.

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That's where you keep your belongings. You mean my pocketbook?

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Okay. Yeah, other than a single pair of whites.

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The first six to 12 hours. The first six to 12 hours will likely be some of your worst.

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From the guy? That was her saying she's here. All right, so you're waiting for a call. He's going to call and give me the report when she's done. But she can't get the report and make a decision?

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For the fucking worst day of your life, you're going in half-cocked. Fuck that. What about my sleep apnea machine? See if you can. I don't know. You have to. You don't have to.

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I'm going to be quite upset. I'll be in a bit of a mood. Yeah, you got to be able to take that in.

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Yes, if it's prescribed by a doctor, if you get a medical note.

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I've seen you in it. It's a tough look. I don't think you'll be allowed one, though. You're a high-risk case. Why? You've got to be a low-security risk to get a CPAP. Why am I high security? I can't get over the fence. Took down three triads.

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I don't want to hear what she has to say.

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I see why reputation precedes me.

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All right, this is the one thing I ended up. Finances and buying the necessities. Your weekly spending in prison has a hard cap of $100.

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Where am I getting that? They give me that? People put it on your books to help you out. Outside guys put it on your books. The government doesn't pay for that. What? What if I got nothing? I can't get a soda. You shouldn't have killed those triads. I'd put money on your books. You would? Yeah.

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I wanted to talk to the guy. You don't know any. He's going to go, hey, these are your options. And what are you going to go? Are you going to run it through your botany filter? I want to hear it from the source. The only plant you know are the chiba, dog, and the coca bean. Plus, I want to be able to tell if he's been smooching. Jesus. If he's had a brother.

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10, 20. I'd float you 20. I want 30 in return. Okay, that's good to know.

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I would, too. You're probably the reason I'm sitting in jail. I'd check in on the family, as well. I didn't mean it like that. I didn't say anything.

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Stop by and see your mom.

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Fucking rat. Trying to hook up with every female in my family. I stopped by your Aunt Patty still. Yeah, she's doing all right.

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Your Uncle John was there, so I left. Well, I'm out of here.

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All right. A hundred bucks. A week? A day, I think. A day? That ain't bad. You put $100 a day in there for me? No, weekly spending is $100.

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You can't get your money. They're not giving you cash. I'll let them get whatever they want. No, that's no good. Why? The second they know, they'll walk all over you.

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This is the thing. You got to fucking shoot to fade, and you can't give nobody nothing. Then you know you're a whore.

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That's the same thing, isn't it? What? Prison wolf.

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Yeah, but they'll step all over you because you're a little bitch.

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I don't know why you said it like that.

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She's trying to have sex with my aunt. She's trying to make friends. Yeah, oh, here's this, and it's that. And then they go, hey, you got money.

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They're extorting it on you. Hey, my buddy Jimmy needs 10 grand. Where am I getting that? I'm in a joint. You got it on the outside, though. I got nothing on the outside. You don't know that? Patty! Hey, listen. You familiar with Blue Bell, Pennsylvania? Talk about a prison wolf. Do you see what I'm saying? Yeah, I see what you're saying. They lean on you.

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Once you go, you give them an inch, they take a mile. So I got to go in there swinging.

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Yeah, you got to fucking... Work out a little bit before I go in there. Get my steps back in. Hey, you little bastard. You probably wouldn't come visit me. I'd be there. Conjugal visits.

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All right.

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I'd be showcasing you around to the boys.

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Ladies, gentlemen. 100 bucks. What else? Violence can and will happen. I told you, man. I know, Ken. You absolutely do not want to find yourself owing any money to anyone in prison.

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You son of a bitch!

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Kippy's Casino?

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Get your hands off my plant and start kissing my wife.

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I want to watch the Chiefs win again.

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Fucking dickheads.

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All right, I got prison don't. No staring.

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What if you like a guy?

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Trying to give him the sight. Doing the blowjob to him.

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Trash, trash, trash.

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No staring. Okay. Prison number two. Don't ask why other inmates are in there. Right. But when you get there, they're going to check your papers. Who's going to? They run your papers. Who does?

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What? What's a shot caller? You're looking at them, though.

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Call that Degippy. Flatbread freak.

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What's a shot caller? I couldn't do five years without a flatbread.

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I'd have to smuggle something in. I'd have to make my own smoked turkey sausage mackerel flatbread.

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Put a little bit of jalapenos on it. A couple of poppers. Okay. What's a shot caller? Somebody who calls the shots. In prison. The big boss of the nof. Some guy who runs the prison. Yeah, a shot caller. Can I be friends with him? I'll think about it. But then he gets got, then. Number two man gets it first. Yeah? I don't know. Give me quick. Well, what were we saying? What did we just say?

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uh god gotta love you you're a unique brand of guy anyway gary and i'm not the type of guy to fuck you i just i don't want to i love this thing i this is this is i've had this thing like seven years eight years i remember used to sit on the table when we would do hard feelings at your apartment and i hated going now i couldn't now i couldn't sit on it now it's like six feet tall That was crazy.

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Before shot caller. Don't ask what anyone, look at your papers. Oh, they run your papers. To see what he's in for.

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And if you have like charges that says like. Martha Stewart was okay when she got out.

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Yeah. They're just making sure you're not a chomo.

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What's a chomo? Child molester. Oh. It sounds cooler than a child molester, right?

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I get confused with the lingo.

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Yeah, I'm a chomo. What's up? From East L.A. What's up, chomos? Yeah. Okay. So they run your papers wanting to make sure you're not a child molester. I could beat one of them up for them. Prove my worth. And then he blows you.

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Hey, stop that!

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You're laying on the ground.

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Get off of me. Fucking prick. I'm too old for you.

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48, God damn it.

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You can't get hard. Prison wall strikes again. All right, so they run your papers.

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Run your papers to make sure you're in for what you're in for. You didn't flip or turn state's evidence on someone else. Fuck.

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They then find out. They look to see if that charge makes sense and like, you know, and then they go, no, I pled it down to this. It's like they. So in case you're a cop, an undercover cop in there. Just in case you, yeah, whatever. They're just checking to make sure you're valid, as they say. So what if I get them to think I'm an undercover cop and they're like, well, then I'll fuck with me?

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I don't think that's a good idea. I'll go to mustard.

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I got a uniform on.

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Hey, what's going on here, boys? Giving you a nose clean?

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Would you get a tat? Prison tat? Past the time? What's the alcohol situation in there? What?

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I don't know. Fucking alcohol wipes or something. Probably not the cleanliest thing. Want that shit? Something tasteful.

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Open for business. In this, you've been beat up and molested. And you're like, I don't know. Get an alcohol wipe in here.

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That seems icky. Nah, I wouldn't get a tat. Okay, cool guy. I'm definitely not getting that Aryan Brotherhood shit.

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You just got to light up butt plug. That's how you spend your $100 a week on butt plugs. Batteries for it. Clock's running.

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Keeps falling. We got to wrap it up. Is that it? Yeah. So what's the moral of the story? We ain't making it. I'll make it. How are you going to make it? I told you. I'll figure it out. You'd be missing a couple of teeth. I think they're a little lax. I'd get a teardrop real quick. No, you didn't do that. Maybe a little villain air. It's just that Indian ink.

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It's running when I sweat.

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What's up, guys? Keep your nose clean out there. We love you. We'll see you next week.

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Intern States Evidence.

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A random two-by-four will come to you. I'm holding it.

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The butterfly effect.

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No, I don't think so. You sure? I don't think so. Wasn't he cheating death, Kutcher, in Butterfly Effect? No, no.

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Oh, he was a time traveler? I think it just showed him his different worlds or something like that. I don't know. Who cares? I'm a Topher Grace man myself. Really? You didn't like Topher Grace? He was good in a couple of things. Who said he was an asshole?

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Oh, that was like a rumor running around.

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It was to the... Wasn't he the... Didn't Michael Cera play him in Judy's Game or whatever? Judy's Game?

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Because of the motherfucking... Because of the motherfucking... My bad, Windex.

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Cera's Game? Wasn't he the famous card player?

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I think it's reversed. Topher was playing Cera.

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No, it was Michael Cera. No, I think Topher was acting as... You're talking about Ocean's Eleven when they were doing the card game.

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No, he's talking about Molly's Game.

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Molly's Game. Molly's Game. Find out who that is. I think that was about Topher Grace. Is that with Jessica Chastain? He was the... I don't know names.

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Yeah. Love her. She's all right. Zero Dark Thirty. Ah.

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Zero Kippy Horny. No, it's Tobey Maguire.

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Tobey Maguire. Tobey Maguire.

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What? What? Blue sky all day. The motherfucking homies.

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Fucking nerds are lucky I don't fucking flex on them pussies.

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You don't like Tobey Maguire either? Get out of here. Spider-Man.

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Oh. Only thing less legible than him is you. That's all I got.

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I'm no Spider-Man. I really puttered out on that one. Okay. All right, let's fucking get into it. Boys are going to jail. What? Fucking turnstates evidence. Fucking flipped on everybody. Somebody get me Todd. Jesus Christ.

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Somebody get me Todd Spodak on the phone.

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You know what I want to do? What do you want to do? No, nothing. I was going to say we should...

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Real cool dude. We should do it.

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We should do an episode where we wear head like headpieces. Why? So we can use our hands. I use my hands anyway.

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I got my thumb up.

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What? You son of a bitch.

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You're a fucking lunatic.

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The goddamn homies. The fucking shareholders. The board members.

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I think most of them are porn stars doing it for the video. I don't know. Looks like regular gals to me. Yeah. What?

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they're in like home depot and shit like that you think whores don't go shopping you're gonna buy the buff plugs that's fun spicy hey we'll do you don't do nothing like that we'll do it this weekend if you want to come pick me up i'll put on something i'll put on something risque got a mag light up there keeps falling out Thing's loose.

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You got one of those lights that they use to stop the paparazzi? Like a lighthouse.

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Ooh-wee! Huh.

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As I've been saying, the undercover agents and the undercover brothers.

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I love Topher Grace. Okay. It's neither here nor there. We're going to jail. All right?

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Oh, Jesus Christ. What is wrong with me?

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That's what I was told. By who? Topher Graves. The guy that plays Red? I'll tell you what happened. I love that guy. Are you kidding me? He's somebody's brother. Isn't he your cousin? Let's quit screwing around. Yeah. So we're going to the can. We're going to the can. Okay. This is how to survive. How to survive in prison. I know how I'm going to survive.

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Get my knee pads and my butt plug and my yoga pants.

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A little Susie. Okay. Uh-huh. Now, where are we going? Federal? County? Federal. Federal. Five years federal. That's the sentence. Fuck. Because I feel like anything over, I don't know. Nonviolent crime. I killed a man. We're fun guys. I'm not partying too hard. You killed a guy. What? I think he had five years. He's a good lawyer. Todd Spodek.

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There you go. Got me out. Get you off.

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What are the charges? I don't know. Something non-violent. Non-violent crime. That's not what I'm telling everybody when I get there. Mine's cooking the books. Okay. Yours could be eating them. I ate the whole nonfiction section.

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That's fiction. Nonfiction books are thick. Sure. A little mustard.

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I don't know.

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I thought I was eating them. Hold on. What do you want to go to jail for? If you did go to jail, what would it be for?

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tax evasion don't say that it's fucking crazy I don't do that shit I'm fucking paying my back taxes but you do it I mean I'm just saying obviously not you now but that is a world where that was the biggest thing hanging over your head I wouldn't have gotten that what are you talking about Would have been all right. Okay. I'm paying it now.

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Listen, you're getting defensive and weird about this, and it's fine.

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I'm not saying you're not, but... I was getting made fun of by the fucking suits about it. I know. Tax debt I'm paying off like a dirt ball.

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Whatever. Then what do you want to go in for?

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No. What do you think you age fully... Drugs. That's what it would be. Am I moving weight? You're trying, but you talked to a cop. Clearly, this guy was wearing a uniform, and you still sold to him.

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No, that's what I'm saying. You were behind. You were a middleman in something.

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Hey, I know a guy.

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I know a guy. Let me introduce you to him.

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What up, gang?

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I got so scared. Oh, it was all set up. It was all set up.

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I lied and said, I can't make it.

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It would have been a real cool work environment. He goes to the bathroom and goes back. You're just ravaging all the presents. Fucking scumbag.

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Makes me want a Rocco's looking at you in that shirt. You've been talking about it a lot lately. Yeah, I'm talking about it. Had a tangent. Play stupid with me now. They do sit down now. Glam's Casino, not Penn.

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I thought you left. I thought you said these were for me. I'm staying out in the hallway. Nothing on that. I got a little bit of prison slang we got to learn before we get there.

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Uh-huh. So we'll do a... How do you say cup the bowls? I think that's just how you say it. Okay.

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I got that down.

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Do you know what a shank is? Come on. What am I, a fucking rookie? Am I a cherry? Newbie? New fish? I know what a shank is.

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What is it?

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Um... It's a handcrafted blade weapon. Of course. Similar to a knife that's associated with prison inmates.

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Yeah, toothbrush I'd use. I'd use it on my fork. I only got one. Yeah, shank. I shank you. And also a lamb shank, which is nice, but I don't love lamb.

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Do you know what brake fluid is? This is a pretty good one.

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What am I, an asshole? No, you're going to get got right away. In the joint, in the pen. Break fluid. Break fluid. Something you drink. It's a term for psychiatric medicine. Throw the break fluid at him. Oh, here we go. The big call.

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What the fuck? Who is it? Hello.

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929.281

All right, one of the many phone calls has been completed yet again, and I listened to most of it.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

AYG Goes to Prison - Are You Garbage Patreon (FULL)

933.604

It was very unnecessary.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

AYG Goes to Prison - Are You Garbage Patreon (FULL)

940.108

Yeah, I wouldn't want to call you either. You said the plant's all right.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

AYG Goes to Prison - Are You Garbage Patreon (FULL)

942.65

Need a little bit of bug juice.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

AYG Goes to Prison - Are You Garbage Patreon (FULL)

943.831

I'll give you some bug juice. All right, next one. What is a bug? What is a bug? A packet of heroin. That's going to be your guess for everything. What is a sleeve of heroin? It's a person. A bug. To describe a person. Annoying person. That's pretty good. Is it bugging me? This guy's a bug. A bug. A bug.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

AYG Goes to Prison - Are You Garbage Patreon (FULL)

965.268

Is a prison staff member considered untrustworthy or unreliable? A prison staff member?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

AYG Goes to Prison - Are You Garbage Patreon (FULL)

971.986

Yeah, I guess you got to play ball a little bit. Yeah, it's a whole ecosystem in there. Man, yikes. Do you know what? All day. Huh? All day. All day? Breakfast?

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

AYG Goes to Prison - Are You Garbage Patreon (FULL)

986.342

I'm going to get fucked up on this joint.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

AYG Goes to Prison - Are You Garbage Patreon (FULL)

989.105

All day. All day.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

AYG Goes to Prison - Are You Garbage Patreon (FULL)

99.338

Are you done? That's a very H-Fully move. Introduce me, then just hang out in my intro. Fucking just loiter.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

AYG Goes to Prison - Are You Garbage Patreon (FULL)

994.233

You can't just say it back to me.

Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast

AYG Goes to Prison - Are You Garbage Patreon (FULL)

996.574

No. I mean the life sentence. I'm doing all day. Oh, shit. That's dark, dude. All night. Fuck that. That's what I mean. I'm telling people I'm doing all day.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

1137.219

But in movies, people are constantly, they can't get up to the bedroom. They can't even make it up there. Too hardy for the extra 20 feet.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

1184.378

I know.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

153.971

It's been a second robbery.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

1610.01

It's really hard, right?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

1622.315

North Korea hacked Sony. It almost started a war.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

1777.014

Exactly.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

1798.107

I know.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

1799.888

Poor guy.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

1962.68

Oh, they are.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

2520.692

Thank you.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

266.952

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

2825.793

in.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

2902.59

We can't sell this.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

2982.581

Very famous.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

3013.432

That's funny. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

3412.831

Oh my God.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

3494.379

Like us.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

3540.246

No.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

3550.069

Exactly. More and more nervous. He sees the machine like coming towards him. He's like holding his side somewhere. Yes. You like see the train rolling down the tracks.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

3595.153

We would cut and he would just look at my face and be like, I should have said that.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

4089.706

You do?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

4115.532

And I'm driving so fast in that episode. Ike was so scared the whole time we were doing it. And you have a look on your face when you drive. I started clocking it. You almost like licked your lips as you're navigating. There's a giant fucking camera. You can't see.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

412.008

Of course.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

4210.703

I was angry.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

4401.462

Don't fuck it up.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

460.659

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

4732.221

She said it.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

4940.683

Right.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

628.446

My struggle. My struggle.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

631.507

It is.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

717.063

That's a great man.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

790.471

Me too.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Seth Rogen Returns Again

979.53

I'm like, no. Aaron goes, I don't know who I want to kiss more, him or her. I'm like, same. It was a powerful moment.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

David Blaine (magician and mentalist)

4202.264

Oh, my God.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

David Blaine (magician and mentalist)

4333.417

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

David Blaine (magician and mentalist)

4433.586

Right.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

David Blaine (magician and mentalist)

80.839

He's an object expert.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Rebecca Lemov (on brainwashing)

1028.69

Philip Zimbardo.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Rebecca Lemov (on brainwashing)

1031.332

Yes.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Rebecca Lemov (on brainwashing)

1693.238

Oh, my God.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Rebecca Lemov (on brainwashing)

3181.951

There's a lot of story building and sharing.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Rebecca Lemov (on brainwashing)

3904.479

Tell me.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Rebecca Lemov (on brainwashing)

4398.379

Right.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Rebecca Lemov (on brainwashing)

5532.461

Thank you.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Toto Wolff (team principal of Mercedes F1 team)

155.192

He's an object expert

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Toto Wolff (team principal of Mercedes F1 team)

1935.374

Oh, my God.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Toto Wolff (team principal of Mercedes F1 team)

2232.777

Spinning like you're fully drunk. Wow.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Toto Wolff (team principal of Mercedes F1 team)

2306.7

Yeah, she's cool.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Toto Wolff (team principal of Mercedes F1 team)

2424.809

Good for him.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Toto Wolff (team principal of Mercedes F1 team)

270.112

Oh, that's sweet.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Toto Wolff (team principal of Mercedes F1 team)

2975.542

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're humans.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Toto Wolff (team principal of Mercedes F1 team)

3550.262

Oh, wonderful.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Toto Wolff (team principal of Mercedes F1 team)

3789.04

Exactly.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Toto Wolff (team principal of Mercedes F1 team)

4168.378

Oh, that's not a good.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Toto Wolff (team principal of Mercedes F1 team)

4194.676

No, it's nice.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Toto Wolff (team principal of Mercedes F1 team)

4204.08

That's what you said.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Toto Wolff (team principal of Mercedes F1 team)

4905.654

He's like, you're not going to believe this.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Toto Wolff (team principal of Mercedes F1 team)

4970.658

But she has to say that. Don't worry. Don't you worry. She has to say that.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Toto Wolff (team principal of Mercedes F1 team)

5148.787

Oh, wow.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Toto Wolff (team principal of Mercedes F1 team)

592.559

Oh, that's small.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Toto Wolff (team principal of Mercedes F1 team)

6486.761

I don't know.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Rerelease: Monica Lewinsky

1044.298

Mm-hmm.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Rerelease: Monica Lewinsky

1223.099

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Rerelease: Monica Lewinsky

2289.339

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Rerelease: Monica Lewinsky

2587.235

Right.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Rerelease: Monica Lewinsky

264.47

He's an uptake star.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Rerelease: Monica Lewinsky

3692.799

Yeah. Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Rerelease: Monica Lewinsky

392.777

Okay.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Rerelease: Monica Lewinsky

553.955

Right.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Rerelease: Monica Lewinsky

5717.913

Monica, Monica, I think I want your number. Monica. Monica.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Rerelease: Monica Lewinsky

5822.098

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Rerelease: Monica Lewinsky

6181.164

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Rerelease: Monica Lewinsky

6271.03

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

1009.948

The other day you told me you've never stolen.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

1013.43

Yes, you did. No. Yes, you did. No. Because then I said, yeah, you tried to steal a parking meter.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

1021.919

Yeah, you said then I did, but I put that in a different compartment because I was drunk. But now here we go.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

1128.533

My face has gotten better over time. So that would have been a big mistake.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

1259.266

Also, it would make the first 30 years of your life or 28, whatever number everyone decides. You'd like be living in a bubble because you have to protect yourself until you get to 28. So you don't get messed up.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

1349.518

Although then it's like they're mature.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

1353.099

That's cool. I don't know.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

1403.302

Sort of, but they're still living in the same world.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

1442.665

These aren't real relationships. You're just hearing what you want to hear. Because what if you didn't like Taylor Swift objectively? And I'm talking about Taylor Swift and you're hearing Madonna, something you do. It's just translating into what you like.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

1471.084

We don't. We're not.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

1473.707

We don't say that.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

1662.513

If I'm wearing the glasses, I just heard... Now and then, maybe.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

1788.092

I think you're thinking of Macklemore. Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

1794.076

You get that all the time, I know.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

1825.622

Quince is amazing.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

1838.143

I was just in the house, and our friend Anna, she had borrowed a sweater from me. It's blue, and it's from Quince. It's gorgeous, and it fits so well. And when she was wearing it, I was like, I want it back.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

1969.089

That's nice.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

2066.123

Oh, the 21-year-olds?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

2073.85

I'm sorry. A little after.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

2076.192

Yeah, I'm a big girl.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

2079.835

No, I was like the Friends era. They were young. I guess they were young, too. But yes, older than me. But I was going to say nostalgia, I think, exists because it's the things that you consumed before everything got complicated.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

2094.607

And also before you started wanting things for real, chasing things and deciding, I want to do this with my life. It was just pure. And there's only a very small amount of time you get in life. Of purity.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

2176.514

Early, I think really early, maybe 32. Right.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

2774.564

You don't have to act really.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

3062.607

Yeah. You know that Nick Kroll special where he's just like, moms are annoying.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

3069.584

They are.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

3081.352

No, they were in your.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

3160.186

If you're lucky, you get two sources of unconditional love. And then when that starts going away, it's so scary. What's left?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

319.724

Yes, this is very nice. You're fucking hot as hell.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

3192.805

Yes, they are. I live with so much fear of something happening to them. And I think part of it is that I don't really have a place to channel it. But in some ways, I think not that it's a cop out, but like you said, in the pandemic, you could sort of channel it with your family. We're all ultimately by ourselves, really.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

3212.159

And so when you really sit with it, you are going to have to process it anyway. At some point. Yeah, and the kids aren't really gonna be the answer to that. They probably don't deserve to be the answer to that.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

3236.962

Why is life structured like this? It's crazy.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

3285.449

Maybe they'll come back. My brother went back home for a while.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

3294.038

So you never know. Good for him. I was panicking for my mom because that's even worse. It's like then you have a really long time. I think you probably trick yourself into this is forever. Great. He'll live here. This is just the way it's going to go. She gets to make sandwiches for him every day. And now he's really gone.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

3313.952

She likes YouTube. I think she's still.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

3318.075

She's dealt with a ton of shit and she's figured it out.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

3322.458

Georgia. So anyway, I was like, oh no. And also she just lost her dad. And I was like, oh my God, my brother's leaving and that's happening. And this is a disaster, but she's- Well, you know what?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

3396.237

I had the same crisis. Yeah. of morality where I was like I want to so bad but I don't think I should and mainly actually because I want to be watching it while the world is watching it there's something about you being like we have to wait a week that makes it really fun it's fun

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

34.798

It does feel like it's been a long time since he's come on, but not that long.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

355.028

You do have great hair. Fuck, you have good hair. You're welcome.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

3730.443

Were you guys worried? Were you like, maybe we should put masks on and maybe we should redo the COVID experience while we shoot season two to keep it calm?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

3739.972

That was magic. And that's scary.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

3895.569

It's incredible.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

3897.27

It's pretty. It's effective. It's effective. Efficient.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

3902.374

Yes.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

392.685

No, no, no. You're so self-deprecating. It's a gorgeous picture.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

397.386

It's absolutely gorgeous.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

4063.184

It's so fun to still be that excited.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

419.071

Thank you, but this wasn't me. This was all Rob.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

4492.51

The fact that you thought he was attainable is hilarious.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

46.308

Me too.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

4670.287

Oh, wow. I got a new... Who's Roxen?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

4683.466

Even though you haven't done them before, apparently you can still do them. It's your New Year's resolution.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

4698.14

Yeah. Well, limber, limber, limber and flexible. That is that's important. That's why people stretch and stuff.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

4717.823

Well, remember, it's Max's New Year's resolution.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

4721.066

Yeah, and you said, I don't think he can because if you don't learn by a certain time.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

4729.211

Not according to Don't Die Guy, Brian Johnson.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

4733.875

I didn't think I had it, but I do.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

4748.928

Yeah, he's doing it with this company where they have steps and it's all in like it's wild. It's diet, the exercise. It's his whole life. It's just devoted to that.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

4764.5

And I didn't finish it.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

4767.542

No, I got to a part that was a critical part of the story where I think it explains a lot of his backstory and perhaps what led him here. But then I stopped and then I forgot to pick it back up. And then I remembered we were probably going to talk about it. So I thought, oh, I should finish it. But then I watched Conclave instead.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

4871.892

The doc is kind of sad and sweet and sweet. And his house looks like so nice, but it looks empty and cold and cold. It's very modern. It's probably supposed to be cold. So I think you're supposed to keep your body kind of cold.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

4888.344

And you probably shouldn't have too much color because maybe that's bad for your eyes or something.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

4901.181

Yeah, that's that is dialed. It is. But then for what? I know. Then you don't the energy you're saving is used to just like do the red light therapy. And yeah, however, anyone wants to live their life if it's not causing harm to somebody else is fine.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

4915.492

But I did think spoiler. This is sort of where I stopped, but I got some information that he was Mormon. Oh, yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

4926.52

Yeah, that's probably right. He was raised Mormon and had a Mormon family before he left the church.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

4937.044

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

4943.066

You know, he set up on all of these friends to need a lot of control in his life.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

4980.52

Yeah, of course. Yeah. Discipline. You don't shed your personality that much. I mean, that this is like such a dumb anecdote. But when I was home, my brother is like always sick at the holidays and he was staying at the house and he like came downstairs and he was like. I feel that thing in my throat where I'm definitely about to be sick. Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5007.725

And we were like, and I was like, maybe not, you know, maybe it's just a little scratch. You're probably fine. And then he was like, well, I know, I know what this feeling is. And then he went, but whatever. The next morning I came downstairs and I asked my mom, I was like, is he sick? And she was like, you know, if he was sick. And I was like, what what do you mean?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5030.05

And she was just saying, like, he's just very vocal when he's sick. He talks a lot about it. He needs a lot. And she said, you have never been like that. You just went to sleep always since you were little. If you were sick, you just went away and just went to sleep. Right. And I was like, huh, I guess I still kind of do that when I'm sick. And she was like, yeah, people don't change that much.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

504.201

You feel left out. I got that.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5053.803

And like a mom can see from day one till whatever. You could do fast math. 365 times 36.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5060.706

37.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5060.726

37.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5061.686

No, it's more than that.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5075.203

13,505.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5075.403

That seems like... It's not that many.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5143.909

Yeah. And it has similar things, rituals and all the same things that religion has.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

521.992

You do know it. It just means like a shop.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5212.208

But also because she had cancer. That's a tricky that's tricky for I think for anyone to hear that is a little like you left for during that.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5224.292

Well, no, but the problem is when you leave someone in their time of need, regardless of how bad they are personality. I mean, this could just gets it gets complicated.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5236.075

It's a bad look.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5267.613

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5272.716

That's nice. Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5331.431

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5335.696

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5341.294

Yeah, again, I think whatever people are doing for themselves to get through life, if it's not hurting people, it's fine. I think people, maybe rightly so, maybe not. I don't know. It's a scale of luxury, right? Like this guy gets to because of his work. Like, you know, he created this thing and he made this money. Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5369.274

Because of that, he has the luxury to devote his life to living forever. And I think for a lot of people who watch that, they might say like, oh, that's crazy. But there's probably an element of... Well, why does he get to devote his time to living forever? And I don't. I have grandkids or, you know, I want to live to see my grandkids and I have to work a nine to five. I could never do that.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5393.599

And so there's just it just gets hard.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5447.193

Yeah. Great. OK.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

545.069

It's where the designer actually makes the items. It's a real work.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5459.542

Conclave was great.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5462.344

I think it's like, yeah, a hard sell just based on the genre. It's a Pope movie kind of. It's really not. It's about the process of electing. Is that even the word they use? A Pope.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5479.275

And it's so much more powerful. Complicated and human. It's so human.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5486.838

At the end of the day, even though it's supposed to be godly and, you know, above us, it's not. It's people making these decisions. There's ambition and power.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5541.115

It's really good.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5543.636

He was phenomenal. Stanley Tucci was in it. Love him so much. Double Rose Prada, friend of the pod.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5550.858

Oh, my God. He's so good.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5557.541

I'm just not sure.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5562.442

Yes.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5589.972

Well, his brother, the other the actor, Joseph, Joseph Fiennes, he doesn't have a fun one like that. He doesn't get to go by like Zoe.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5598.816

People do sacrifice a lot for what they believe to be bigger than them. Not everyone does, but a lot of people do.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5613.402

Yeah, that's probably true. I mean, again, it's back to the don't die. Like, I think that's fine. Like, that's their decision. Yeah. I actually think it's a fairly noble one, whether it's possible or not. I think the person is noble about it.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5632.328

That's not it. It's giving up your life to the service of something else.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5638.51

Not having sex part is a piece of that, that they've decided that I didn't grow up in that. So I can't speak to it, you know, but they whatever have their own reasons for it. And it's a weird one to pick. Speaking of giving up your life for your sacrifice, you know, sacrificing.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5656.775

I remembered during the fight, you know, the fires are still happening, but they're getting more and more contained, which is really good. My hot professor. Yeah. He was a firefighter before he was a professor.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5671.079

And I just it just like occurred to me when I was walking and I was like, oh, yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5678.263

Of course.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5680.644

I know.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5684.906

He had it all.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5691.729

Oh, that's great.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5694.891

Is it a playoff game? Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

57.117

Yeah, you did.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

574.394

I've never said it. I do think it's rough.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5742.083

Doesn't have a great ring to it.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5758.578

Well, that's very exciting.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5762.339

Fun. Oh, that'll be great.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5768.06

Oh, cool.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5769.621

That's very fun.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5771.361

You're going to be like the McConaughey?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5802.477

Yeah, he knows how to teleport. He's the only one.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5819.349

If they go to the Super Bowl, are you going to go?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5823.885

Where is the Super Bowl?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5829.527

You've been to the Super Bowl.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5842.692

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5877.345

I feel like football is a newer interest and that's fun.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5884.83

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

59.819

Yes.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5908.507

I know. I think it's fun to have a new new interest as we get older. For sure.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

5993.464

Oh, my goodness. That sounds nice.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6018.249

Oh, cool.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6028.238

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6032.381

I like a coach that knows the game.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6036.764

Like at Waffle House when they have to work at a Waffle House in order to be the CEO.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6042.747

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6045.348

Yeah. Do all the jobs.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6050.431

Exactly. Okay. J.J. Redick, the Lakers coach.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6056.234

Isn't he? Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6068.721

I know. In fantasy. So there's no reason. I still expect you to know all of it.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6093.418

That's awesome. Okay, I'm right about J.J. Redick. He's the head coach of the Lakers. And... This is a sad thing, but I didn't know that. And I saw he popped up on my Instagram because he lost his home.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6106.418

But I was looking at him and I was like, this is the coach. He looks so young.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6115.802

Yes. Now I'm at this point where I'm like, what is going on? But he is 40, which is better. I thought he was younger than me when I saw and I got very...

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6155.753

Is part of it also that they are hiring younger?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6160.857

Okay.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6169.624

Fun.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6171.926

Mm-hmm.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6215.416

Okay.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6236.926

I am accumulating a list of rewatches. I would like to rewatch Minority Report.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6249.471

Well, this is good. We're talking about movies because Adam Scott loves movies.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6255.114

A cinephile.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6257.136

Oh, also, we talked about words that have entered the zeitgeist that people, atelier, you know, things people are saying too much, really. There's a new one.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6268.582

Yeah, I learned. I learned that elevated is out. People say elevated a lot, like...

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6276.114

It's this, but elevated.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6278.035

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6278.955

Yeah, but.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6280.976

No, we're not. People say it too much.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6290.78

No, it's like a tillier. It's like everyone's just saying it.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6297.886

What do you mean?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6311.181

We were just talking in general about words that are just overused. He even said beautiful when people are like, oh, like it's so beautiful, like using beautiful a ton.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6320.668

And elevate, I learned it's somebody said they were so annoyed by that word. And I was like, I do hear it a lot.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6330.876

Glimmer?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6337.06

Oh.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6340.911

Huh?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6346.117

Right.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6347.338

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6391.815

Sure. You know, I get it. Yeah, I get that. But they're ironically, they're not trying to be a snob. They're trying to be elevated.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6403.365

All right, where's Skoll manufactured?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6408.849

Its corporate headquarters are located in Richmond, Virginia, and it maintains factories in Clarksville and Nashville, Tennessee, Franklin Park, Illinois, and Hopkinsville, Kentucky. Copenhagen and Skoll are the company's best-selling brands, and each represents more than $1 billion per year in retail sales.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6438.513

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6440.334

You could get it minutes old.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6457.017

But are they? Yes. But is it? It's so hard to know what's mental. It's really hard to know.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6465.911

Sure.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6467.331

Yeah. Remember when we went to the.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6472.032

Hawaiian Sweet Roll Factory.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6475.753

And we got them straight off the bell.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6479.754

Of course they taste amazing. But I also know I don't. I know what I don't know, and I can't know if that's placebo or not. I mean, hot. One is just that it's hot.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6524.402

You know, butter sculptures are a thing now.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6527.143

Yeah. People are getting into butter sculptures.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6532.305

So they should use that big butter and make it into some sort of.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6541.008

OK, now, OK, is 27 the age you start going downhill between 25 and 30 physically, physical, physically, physical peak between 25 and 30? That's not to say you shouldn't keep working on your exercise and your physique. As you said, you've never been in better shape.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6563.928

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6571.194

But I guess in some ways you were at your physical peak because now if you did all that, you'd die.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6593.443

And the air is bad. I mean, we all have headaches.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6613.77

You want to see.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6615.912

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6619.675

What's the biggest thing?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6624.438

Okay.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6649.813

Are you going back and forth or are you just sitting? I just stay.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6654.237

I just read. I just read. That's really, really bad.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6660.162

Which you've had.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6663.305

I thought you've had them.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6666.167

You just had an anal fissure. Anal fissure. Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6684.039

No.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6685.48

Is part of it water, though?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6688.702

But did you have diarrhea?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6691.763

Was there diarrhea?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6698.649

Then there's water in there.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6721.61

That is a lot.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6723.672

Did you feel much lighter after?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6732.221

Yeah, sure.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6738.433

Were you much faster?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

674.666

Also with Botox and fillers and all of those things. Yeah. People's faces are starting to just look like one thing. I mean, young teens are doing Botox and filler. I know.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6745.643

So John Turturro, he said Mac first movie in 1992. Now in the Wondery Plus, I said he was wrong and he's not wrong.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6757.446

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6758.467

I actually think.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6761.65

No, I actually think if we go back. So I said, he's right. Mac 1992. Oh, wait, he's wrong. Like I read the same thing I'm reading.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6773

But I think my brain definitely wasn't working that day. But I was like, no, it's Illuminata 1998. So I think in my head, 1998 was before 1992.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6790.274

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6791.275

So.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6792.696

He's right. Mac 1992. First film he directed.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6803.323

I agree. I was surprised that he was wrong. And turns out we didn't need to be surprised because he was right. Yeah. What's the name of Nicolas Cage's King Cobra? He has two, Sheba and Moby.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6817.537

They're really good names for a King Cobra.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6872.134

That's exciting. Yeah. Are you putting out food?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6883.878

It's a life lesson. Hard to get.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6887.039

No one wants availability.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6890.901

All right. That's it.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6892.901

Yep. That's it for Adam.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6895.563

What a lovely man.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6901.487

And we're sorry that the crickets came in the middle of his sweet moment.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

6909.432

But if you heard it, we apologize. All right. All right. Love you. Love you.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

691.099

I feel like an old lady to say I'm against it, but I am.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

696.743

For like an 18 year old, you don't even know what your face is yet.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

828.57

It's powerful. That's what it is.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

844.785

Or you'd like touch it.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

920.669

Were you a really good kid? It sounds like you were a really good kid. That's the extent of mischief. Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

98.246

Got it. That makes sense.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Adam Scott Returns

99.887

And also lends itself to him being a cinephile.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

1342.039

That's so amazing.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

1347.142

Yeah, I don't know why we don't have more of that because that's the whole thing. You take a baby home and you're like, I don't know what to do with it.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

1417.76

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

146.57

How long have you been doing this? We launched in February of 2018 Almost seven years.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

1501.157

So other people are reacting positively.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

156.964

We try to do the opposite of clickbaity. Even talk shows, which we love, you just go in and you do your thing and then you get out and there's no context and things blow up. Trying to sort of be the antidote to that.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

170.008

Yeah, yeah, of course. I mean, for us too.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

175.45

getting worse by the second. I don't know what the heck is happening.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

1774.474

When you say you wanted to connect, that's your main goal when you're up there. Did you feel like when you were younger, you had a hard time connecting outside of that realm? Was it an escape? I mean, it doesn't seem like it because you're easy to talk to, but I don't know if you were introverted or shy and that was your outlet.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

1807.679

Stay tuned for more Armchair Expert, if you dare.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

183.976

It's a little bit of a we say like outrage addiction.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

187.879

And really unhealthy. It is. We're in sort of an interesting time where I feel like celebrities especially newer celebrities are starting to push back and like question fandom in a really interesting way.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

1879.963

You have some Virgo in you too.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

1913.602

Because it depends on where you're coming from. You have that, Dax has that hang up, I guess I'll call it, or obsession or whatever.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

1920.347

No, it's not a defect. But because you were told things that weren't true and you had to figure it out.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

1926.991

Yeah, you had to figure out what was true and what wasn't true. And so you seek the truth. So it comes from somewhere, that need.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

1935.257

Yeah, I think it might be a little more than January. Because we're all doing that. The best way to survive in the world. And so why truth for you?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

1980.706

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

2018.041

I have that too. I'm like, don't underestimate this. But then I think sometimes I'm too critical or harsh or you need to respect me. Do you ever feel like you swing?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

204.011

Exactly.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

209.095

Yeah. That you're a person.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

213.858

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

216.18

Exactly. It's sad that we have to remind people, but... Good morning. Good morning.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

2165.212

It's a pick your battles.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

2178.341

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

2248.595

That was a great interaction.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

2261.783

A more generous take is that they are actually saying, I've invested part of my life in your life. I know about you. I know you have a wife and I really like her, too. And I find you interesting enough that I've given you my time. That's really what they're trying to say. But then that's what comes out.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

2279.009

But I do want to say that I am grateful that you, Dax, just said you recognize that as a tall, white person. Straight man. Yeah, I added that.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

2289.075

That you can't really imagine what it's like to be in that other position because I have heard people say like, they're just being nice. And I'm like, you haven't had 37 years of practice to know when someone's being nice and when someone's not. I think it's just great to acknowledge. Maybe you can't know.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

2323.66

Now we're telling the world.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

2346.034

That's so rude.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

2376.86

Oh my God.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

2388.464

You were with this person?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

24.557

What a dream.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

2505.573

Or was that just a moment of you trying to connect? That's a little bit better of a way to phrase it instead of were you trying to be a dick?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

2514.438

I'm not. I'm not mad. But I do think maybe, oh, did you mean to hurt my feelings or were you just trying to be funny? That's the most vulnerable. And you're right. There's one answer.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

2536.52

And maybe they won't go to the next person and say something like that. It's wild. Before you guys came up, we were talking about fame and newer celebrities are pushing back on fame.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

2548.573

They're building a bigger boundary. And I think it's very interesting.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

255.595

We've already talked about bags. The fashion is outrageous.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

2803.539

Oh, you didn't know that? I didn't know.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

2812.282

That's fucking nuts. In her outfit.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

2814.723

Oh, funny.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

2833.595

We got to go see it in a theater and it was so exciting. And I saw the play many years ago. I guess I forgot the whole thing. It started and I was like, what? I don't remember any of this. And then we were with a friend and she went to the bathroom and she came back and I was like, this movie is so sad. I hate what is happening to her.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

2851.607

You do such a good job of not playing it with pity, but you feel for that. And I was like, I'm her. I was like, so I'm her. And I hate this for everybody, especially me. It was fantastic.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

3189.113

When people see the movie, it is shocking what he's done. I mean, it is incredible.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

3196.34

I was like, how did he do this? How did he think this? It's incredible. But I can imagine because there's so many moving parts, it'd be easiest for him to just be tough. So the fact that he was fun and engaging is a big feat for him.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

3307.105

I fold. Oh, you're a folder. I bunch.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

3312.707

Well, I get it.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

3328.112

Very well. What they're saying when they're asking is I would never be able to wipe properly. It's a problem with them.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

3453.0

If you dare.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

3476.108

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

3488.757

That's fascinating.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

3671.74

Wow.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

3680.93

Fine.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

3755.811

This is for people who are in America and don't know. It is Juilliard, basically.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

3786.084

Wow. You currently teach?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

3789.361

What in the world?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

3794.643

Are you the type that'll just run yourself into the ground?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

38.503

She's so good. So good in the movie. She's such a cool person. She's also like she just hosted the CFDA award. That's a huge fashion thing. She's very cool.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

3862.411

Yeah, I don't know what he's up to these days, but boy, was he attractive and so smart.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

3869.204

I don't think so.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

3873.39

No. The theater space is very intimate, though.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

3925.074

But then if you're on the other side of it, if you're Cynthia, then you're like, oh, this person's in love with me. And then you run the risk of them finding out about the real you and then being like, oh, I'm not interested in that.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

4015.531

96?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

4029.576

Ah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

4109.585

It seems like you are the combination of them and especially Renaissance. You're the vice president.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

4116.731

You're covering a lot of ground.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

4187.121

That's the part that's going to be different and harder, perhaps, because when it happens to Kristen, sometimes the kids are like, what? That's not her. Elsa's a cartoon.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

4198.31

And they're going to see you as a person.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

4545.12

We're going to pretend like we don't know it, so you just keep going.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

4775.656

Right. But it does.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

4777.938

The most important purpose.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

4832.68

Lucky girl.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

4838.865

Thank you. We don't love musicals in general. We don't. And we say that publicly. It's dangerous. It's just equal to me saying I don't like dogs, which is also true. But man, did it get me.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

4860.979

I'm adding things by the second.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

4879.847

I bet everyone already has pre-booked their ticket.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5028.088

Like, I know about chafing. I'm not doing it.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5115.136

No, I will put it on Do Not Disturb for you.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5120.089

No, I don't have a bad update.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5122.45

On a previous or upcoming, I'm not sure, Armchair Anonymous, you told me that you hate me because I don't put my phone on Do Not Disturb.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5136.198

So now I put it on Do Not Disturb.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5144.062

You should go back and keep listening.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5146.785

Just in case.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5155.053

Yeah, you tried to make it cutesy, but it wasn't.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5160.258

No.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5164.75

I know because when I was Mary Kay and Ashley the Roe era, I had to take the case off because they would never have a case.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5172.973

You can't look like that.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5216.195

The phone company wants it without the case so that you can see what the phone company is.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5224.639

But if you don't have approval, you do have to have a phone case on because you have to cover up.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5238.61

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5247.376

Stickers or tape.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5252.297

Not a sponsor.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5254.918

Although it's kind of weird.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5257.619

Yeah, and we don't have permission.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5261.7

How was it?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5306.711

From both of you or just from you?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5314.415

Did you guys hug?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5318.905

But did you hug in the moment?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5328.677

Oh, that's fun. Okay. I do have a question about this. Like when people, when you're around someone and they have damp eyes because they're about to cry or they're crying a little bit.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5339.429

I don't really necessarily know how to handle that always. Like I know how to handle it with my words.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5349.182

But I don't because I didn't really grow up in an affectionate family, physically affectionate family.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5354.71

Like I don't know if I should touch them or not.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5359.855

Yeah. Do you?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5390.66

But you don't feel the need to like help or comfort?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5411.156

I get anxiety about to touch or not.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5416.32

I feel like sometimes I should like touch their hair. Caress their hair. No, not correct.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5433.974

What if he started playing with the hair in his ears?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5451.786

And would you have put your arm around him?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5456.349

Oh, wow.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5459.431

It needs to be like really bad. Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5463.394

I'm going to write down the rules. Rob, do you like to touch people when they cry?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5528.552

It depends on who it is and it depends on how often that exchange happens, like how often you're crying around.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5534.877

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5535.497

There are some people who've definitely never seen me cry who I'm close to.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5539.58

Sure.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5539.88

And then there are others who see me cry a lot. You.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5544.202

Kristen's seen me cry a lot.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5549.205

No, she has. That's interesting, actually. I don't keep it buttoned up. She's definitely seen it.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5556.068

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5556.588

And heard it. But this is how I am with family. I have a very quick trigger to cry in front of my parents.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5565.054

But I don't want to. So I'm always like trying to not, but it's like always right at the surface.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5573.14

Exactly. I learned that.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5577.303

And you're like trying to keep it together. I learned that in college.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5584.048

Yeah, so I'm always like, it's right there. Emotions are just so heightened with your family. I have similar feelings in this environment.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5593.87

Uh-huh, sure, sure.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5594.49

Where it's like, could happen at any time. The tears, the bloodgates. I don't have that as much with her. I don't know why. It's not good or bad, I don't think.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5637.307

Oh, wow.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5684.637

It's not to women.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5688.28

That's a patriarchal thing because people think women are sensitive.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5693.025

So they've decided that's a negative thing.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5696.068

Thank God.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5699.151

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5701.592

Okay.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5706.675

Not yet.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5708.175

We still have to talk about substance.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5710.356

We keep adding.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5717.864

Today's a big, I know it's in a couple of weeks that this is coming out, but today is a big day to talk about women.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5727.235

It's election day.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5731.941

I know, but I can't act like I'm not thinking about it.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5784.312

Well, does she? That's the part that, that's the part to me.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5846.696

And the world carry so many feelings that they don't understand about successful women.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5906.064

Yeah, well, I'm excited to watch that.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5921.531

So, of course, it's so gory. It's so... It's very intense. It's so over the top. But I wasn't like... I don't think I was as disturbed as I was worried as you were anticipating. Yeah. And I said then and I was like, I'm not sure if this is going to be true, but I wonder if women will watch this differently and will not think it's as intense as men do. I mean, it is. It is. It's crazy.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5949.397

Objectively.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5954.04

Yes. Everyone's like kind of screaming. It's like kind of one of those where people are reacting loudly in a really fun way.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5961.446

No.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5962.387

The five people were screaming.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5965.229

People walked out when I was there. No. And that's like, to me, the idea of someone walking out is funny to me.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5975.653

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5982.795

I mean, I was like, ew. Of course I was like, ew. Oh my God, this is so insane.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5987.056

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

5987.556

But I, I was not like, oh my God, I got to walk out. Oh my God, I got to close my eyes. And like by the end of the movie, I was dying laughing. I was laughing out loud. at like such a high frequency i thought it became so funny to me yeah yeah yeah yeah so absurd stay tuned for more armchair expert if you dare

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6036.346

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6037.907

Right. I think because for you, since violence is a real was a reality. Big time. You can see it a little differently or you can like, maybe you know when it's hit an absurd threshold.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6052.865

And because for me, violence is just scary in general.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6056.029

It's all scary. It doesn't matter even the smell.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6060.394

And so I wouldn't laugh at that. But this is like, yes, I'm so clear as to when like body gore has hit another level or when the message of the female body has like escalated to a different point. It's such an incredible message. It's so true. Speaking of successful women, it's cast so perfectly because Demi Moore is Is so gorgeous. Yes. She's so beautiful.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6091.899

She has aged incredibly gracefully. She looks incredible.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6106.294

Yeah. Jess said that he he was in love with her.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6112.399

I know. I said, what do you want to do? Eat around it.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6120.426

It's worth repeating. If you listen to Monica and Jess loves boys.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6125.17

Monica and Jess love boys. That was one of our early spinoff shows was a long time ago at this point. We did a 10-episode show with Jess where him and I were so opposite, but we were on, like, dating missions, basically. And it was such a fun show. Another show I'm really proud of.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6155.808

Yeah, it felt a little cheap. We, you know, we put out the the questionnaires and people responded. And once we were going through them, I was like, yeah, this is we're just making a show and it wouldn't really be about the real thing.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6174.804

Yeah. So anyways, that's why we didn't.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6178.289

Yeah. He had girlfriends. Jess is gay. If people don't know that he had girlfriends in high school and we'd be like, well, did you like, would you guys have sex or would you? And he was like, I would eat around it.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6202.311

Yeah. It's worth perhaps going back and listening to that show just to hear him describe that. Speaking of that, actually, we have a feed. It's called Armchair Limited. It is where all our old series live.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6217.961

If you ever want to go back and listen to any of these fun things we've done.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6224.166

Race to 270. Race to 35. So anyway, all our old shows are on there. It's really fun. If you want to go.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6237.035

Anyway, I asked, did you want to eat around it? And he said, no, I just wanted to write her letters.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6247.216

Yeah. Someone called me that the other day and I was so flattered. So cool.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6252.423

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6253.244

Yeah. So substance. Yeah. Like she's so gorgeous and perfect. And so when she's starting to do go down this road where she's. Looking to be younger. Yes. You're like, why? You don't need to do this. Why are you doing this? Yeah. And then you see the young person. And as a woman, and this is so sad. As a woman, you're like, oh, like, I guess I kind of get it.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6280.349

I like, I understand why she wants that.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6282.951

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6283.892

It's so fucked up. It is so fucked up what we do to aging women in this society. We really cast... Women aside.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6295.7

Yeah. The way they shoot the men in the movie is hilarious.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6304.067

Yeah, it's falling out of his mouth.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6307.389

Yeah, sea substance. We have facts, but this is for Cynthia. She was incredible.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6315.493

I have to tell you, any day now, I think we might get unplugged. The sim is hitting new levels.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6326.099

Okay?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6326.939

Yesterday, I was in Culver City. I'm never in Culver City.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6332.422

It was so random. It was kind of last minute.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6335.403

Decided to go.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6338.957

Yes.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6340.979

Jess is helping open a new restaurant.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6343.581

And I told him I would come see it. Yeah, exactly. But I was like really on the fence. I didn't know if I was, whatever. And last minute I was like, I guess I'll go. I wanted to beat traffic, so I went early. I went at like this random time. Yeah. And I park. I'm just sitting in the car. I'm on the phone. And I look over and Molly is staring at me through my car window.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6369.605

Who also does not live in Culver City.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6372.327

Is never in Culver City. Yeah. Happened to be meeting a friend for lunch.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6376.351

Exactly. Happened to be meeting a friend for lunch there. And like drove by, saw my car. Saw my little, she said she saw my little head.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6387.058

And then parked and what? That is so weird.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6439.159

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6487.036

I know. I know.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6491.379

Yeah. But also you would still die by getting hit by a car and stuff.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6503.35

Yeah, everyone would become agoraphobic.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6507.154

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6510.717

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6517.183

Yeah. But that's if you're looking at the sim in the way you're looking at the sim. If you look at it in the coincidental way, that can also that doesn't have to be privileged. That's just like, what the fuck is going on that I just said this or that I'm running into Molly, that my my neighbor of my house owns the apartment next door. Like, that's not.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6569.994

Well, that's a fee. Okay. It gets so heady because if we're, if my, if I'm in my sim, the people that are suffering are fake.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6579.279

I know. I know.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6591.181

All to say, I think we might get unplugged soon because it's getting way. It's that's so crazy.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6599.508

OK, Cynthia.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6606.245

Very. Okay. Michaela Cole. We were talking about if she was younger or older. She is the same age. She's 37 as well.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6614.533

All of us were born in 87, all three of us.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6618.396

Special year.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6620.703

A postpartum doula. You wanted to know what that was.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6623.924

A trained professional who offers support to new parents during the postpartum period, which is the first six weeks after giving birth. Postpartum doulas can help with a variety of tasks, including physical care, helping with breastfeeding, infant feeding, and infant soothing, emotional support, information, housework, incorporating older children. Oh, helping to incorporate the older child.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6647.908

Integrating, yeah. Overnight shifts. She mentioned one of her heroes, Cicely Tyson. And yes, she was nominated for Best Actress in 1973 for Sounder. Cicely Tyson was.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6665.364

Couple years.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6671.333

69.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6673.196

Erica Badu. I just wanted to, because you asked if she was late, and I just want to be clear. That's a thing with her. It's a thing that she is late a lot.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6687.856

Yeah, I agree. I just for people who don't know that it seemed random that you would ask that.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6693.238

But it's a thing like people ask like what? Oh, she's going to be a couple hours late. Yeah. You said that your cousin told you that mathematically every song has already been created. That's not true. Oh, the number of possible sound combinations is essentially infinite. For example, Spotify.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6710.686

The world's largest music platform has over 100 million songs registered and 100,000 new songs are added every day. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6721.389

That's what it says.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6725.311

Yeah. So no, no.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6728.752

There's an infinite number of combinations.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6734.374

So you can tell your cousin.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6740.551

Oh, we talk about how in England they have things. We have things here that they don't have because we allow chemicals that they don't.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6749.817

We do. But in 2023, about a year ago, California became the first state to ban for food additives linked to disease.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6758.863

The California Food Safety Act prohibits the manufacturing, distribution, and sale of food and beverages that contain brominated vegetable oil.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6770.516

Potassium bromate. Oh, no.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6774.261

Propylparaben.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6777.323

And Red Dye 3. Red Dye 3 is the big, the biggie.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6781.566

Can be found in candy, fruit juices, and cookies and more. Cookie boy.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6787.37

Anyway, so that's good.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6792.793

I had a cookie... At least two weeks ago because I had one at Sycamore Kitchen. Love Sycamore Kitchen. They have a Rice Krispie Treat cookie. It's so insane.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6810.644

Mm-hmm.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6812.265

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6822.093

Oh, like my first cookie.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6829.099

Yes, she was beautiful.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6835.948

She would have been, okay, let's see. So my mom is 26 years my senior.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6843.493

She was probably 20.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6846.415

No.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6859.243

They came from India.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6868.186

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6872.406

You are in India. Congratulations, you got that one right. Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6877.109

Okay, so she was probably in her late 40s when I was born. So she was probably around your age that I was eating cookies.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6888.238

No, I don't know.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6889.539

No, my grandpa.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

69.678

Yeah, panic.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6901.806

I wouldn't do that to her.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6904.791

But you love her.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6906.935

So why would I do that?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6919.399

Okay.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6945.654

Oh, sure.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6947.155

That one feels less. Why do we want that for her and not him?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6957.985

That's why.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6965.851

That's not mean.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6967.633

She.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6970.075

You keep saying it and I think it's disgusting.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6979.042

We're going to get stereotypical here.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6981.903

Women, I think, for the most part.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

6987.965

For the most part, their sex drive. They don't want to have as much sex as men do as they age, as they get older, as things happen. Like, I mean, it's actually for real. Your sex drive does. Well, so we have testosterone.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

7003.53

Well, we have testosterone, but not as much.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

7006.333

But yes. But with menopause and perimenopause, everything drops off. I know because I'm in perimenopause. You're not. So I think a lot of women are having sex with their husbands. past the point of them wanting. We know this. It's like the husbands are like, can we have sex once a week?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

7030.753

Exactly.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

7056.1

It says men are more likely to cheat than women.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

7060.682

It's according to... These men are cheating with somebody. This is 2022. Yeah, but they might be cheating on someone who's not in a partnership. Yeah. 20% of men and 13% of women admitted to cheating on their spouse.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

7084.305

Exactly. This is all tying back into what I'm about to say, which is why it's not the same that if Grandma Yolis gets to have sex with Brad Pitt. It's not the same.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

7123.196

I only, I only, I'm really trying to think because I don't want to speak out of school. But in my experience, I don't know very many, but I personally only know men who have cheated on their wives.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

713.669

You're more than an outfit to me, though. Don't let him do that.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

7144.714

One girl cheated on her boyfriend.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

7149.498

Well, let me think. OK, well, I guess for me, I guess I'm thinking more marital.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

7160.02

Once people are married, I, in my experience, only know men who have cheated on their wives.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

7179.517

Well, they weren't meaning women out in the workplace.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

7194.743

Right.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

7198.485

Okay, Mexican music is... Hold on, though. What?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

7209.214

Wait, what do you mean?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

7221.064

Because I don't want that for my grandfather.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

7228.463

It makes sense for your grandfather because you said you want it.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

7232.607

I don't want it for them.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

7235.37

Okay. Tejano music is influenced significantly by polka. You're right. That's it.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

7245.82

Well, let me just do it. Yep.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

7253.157

Oh.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

7254.378

Got to. You will. Everyone already will. Everyone's already seen it probably by now, but it is so good.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

7263.588

Love you.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

899.987

I'm also on the fence.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Cynthia Erivo

918.944

That's what Capricorns do.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Mo Amer

1347.611

End up talking like this all the time now. Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Mo Amer

1453.627

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Mo Amer

2099.935

Why is everybody dressed like demons? Where did my mom send me? Yeah. This is evil.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Mo Amer

2324.619

I was like, rice and lentil again?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Mo Amer

2409.894

Fresh off the presses. Exactly.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Mo Amer

2432.719

And he paused and he goes, can I see it, bro? Like.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Mo Amer

301.089

He told me to say it.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Mo Amer

817.328

Like who drinks pear sparkling water?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Mo Amer

845.391

And that's a risky thing to do. I feel faint.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Mo Amer

849.094

It's horrible.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Mo Amer

887.069

They're like, are you okay? What's happening? Have you been partying? What's going on? Were you at the beer garden and had so much fun? You want to have some more fun? I was like, no, I wasn't. Leave me alone. Are you a diabetic? I was like, no, I'm not diabetic. Thank God I'm not diabetic. Stop making me panic even more.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Mo Amer

904.856

It was horrible.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Mo Amer

938.872

Oh, no. Are you serious? Yes.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

1023.021

What? Conflict resolution, God, and then you have a football team. I like it. We were a really sort of violent group of guys.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

1071.678

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

1104.402

Wait, does that have a CTE?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

1150.767

So I was like, that was for me.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

1213.45

So it's kind of like an ABC afterschool special almost.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

1218.454

I'm like crying my eyes out. I checked in with my son.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

1351.168

Yep.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

1420.586

The sad thing is you get older as you go. Oh, everyone on the other side was also in the same situation.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

1720.316

Oh my God. How on earth are you dealing with that?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

1769.779

Green and blue. Green and blue.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

196.451

Yes. Everyone's got to get comfortable, make peace with the beard. And that's like not happening in your family.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

203.516

She's like truly disgusted. You had a great mustache and it was like a comedy. No, it wasn't. King Richard. Yes. The tennis guy. Big, bushy. Yes. Long. It's impressive. Big.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

2258.37

But that went a long way. He's like, okay.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

228.292

But I look at you and I'm like, you're gorgeous.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

2316.88

Okay.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

234.177

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

2378.302

That's hilarious.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

2380.223

Given basically you fled the country.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

2548.416

Congratulations. That's a long time. Wow. Meanings or anything or no?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

257.153

Oh, boy. Yeah, my brothers are something.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

2707.782

And they're no better than me. They're no worse than me. Do you have an explanation for what was driving this side of you?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

2870.691

And I couldn't enjoy it. It was that visceral for me. The actor. Oh, shame. He's a dick. And I was like, oh, I just I couldn't really enjoy it. I was like. Yeah, this dude and I are at a bar. It's a good show. I wish I didn't do that for you, dude.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

3012.384

It's like, we're shooting this with as many of the real people as we can. Not in an offensive way. It's almost a reenactment. It is. But to play this like wildly colorful guy that

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

3042.647

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

3458.071

I think the colloquial understanding of method is you don't break character ever. Which is not what Stanislavski's method was at all.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

3469.147

Fucking Holland. Did Tom tell you this? I just read it.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

3472.35

And you didn't talk to anybody for months. Yeah. How does that... Well, it didn't work, dude. I mean, like... What do you mean it didn't work?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

352.783

You know, when you talk about my brothers. Yeah, let's hit it. So Nick is an orthopedic surgeon and professor at UCLA.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

367.385

Oh, that's your little brother.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

3938.32

I sure hope there weren't any mistakes in that episode, but we'll find out when my mom, Mrs. Monica, comes in and tells us what was wrong.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

5059.889

Leave it up. Leave it up.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

508.34

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

587.309

No, man. I mean, look, man, we have that.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

783.452

Oh, okay. It's my daughter's 12th birthday today.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

788.077

Yeah, we're going to Disneyland tonight.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Jon Bernthal

858.233

It's like a Henry Ford Museum in Detroit. It's a Quaker school.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Holiday Nightmare II

2271.849

I found the artist of your Great Dane painting. Oh, you did? Is it famous? Christine Merrill. She's America's most extraordinary painter of dog portraits.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Holiday Nightmare II

2280.811

I agree with that assessment.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Holiday Nightmare II

2284.693

Oh, okay. I've never looked. She's from Baltimore.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Holiday Nightmare II

2291.275

Recumbent Great Dane.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Holiday Nightmare II

2296.076

Must be a popular print.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Holiday Nightmare II

2343.933

Do you want to sing a tune or something? We don't have a theme song. Oh. Okay, great.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Holiday Nightmare II

2349.056

We don't have a theme song for this new show, so here I go, go, go. We're going to ask some random questions, and with the help of our cherries, we'll get some suggestions on the Flyer Rhyme issue.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1012.194

For the last eight months, I've been restoring it. First was mechanical safety because it ran, but it didn't stop. And then there was an enormous amount of rust that had just invaded the whole car. So I just finished that restoration. So we've been enjoying that over the last two weeks. And then I kind of have a bigger plan. Can I guess what the plan is? Go ahead. WRX motor? Nope.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1032.227

I'm going to try to pull a Downey Jr. I'm going to drop the engine and pull the gas tank and convert it to an EV.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1045.332

I'm into that, but we're here for the show. So let's get the public transit story. So I live in Boston. Boston has a subway system, which is actually the oldest subway system in the nation. Part of that system is kind of like a trolley. more than a subway. So when you go down, there's no lower ground. You literally enter at ground level. In 1992, I had just graduated from Northeastern University.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1071.77

I was valet parking cars because I didn't have a job yet from my major. That's a job I always wanted and never had. Did you love it? It's a lot of fun. Being a car enthusiast, you got to drive a lot of people's really expensive whips without owning them. And then tips. It was a good gig. I got off of a really long shift.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1090.911

I lived in an area of Boston called Alston, which is, you know, maybe five miles up the road. You would typically take the T, the subway, home after the end of the shift. So the place I was valeting was right across from the Boston Common. So I went to the Arlington T stop. I go down the stairs and I'm waiting and I'm waiting and I'm waiting.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1112.869

And I realized that I probably missed the last tea of the night. Right. Bummer. Now I got to blow part of the tips that I just made on getting a cab home. So I go to walk upstairs and the staff has locked the place up tight.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1130.726

You're in jail now.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1133.289

I am locked in the subway station under the city. Remember, I said it was 1992. We didn't have cell phones. Right.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1143.019

And I'm a 22-year-old guy, so I'm still not really fully formed. I'm not even thinking to look for an emergency phone or even a pay phone. I just think to myself, well, I've been riding the T for five years. I know where I am. And if I look up the subway tracks, three blocks up is Copley Square. I could probably walk up the subway tracks and get to the next stop.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1179.296

And, you know, the stations themselves are illuminated, but the space between the stations are really not that well lit. But I start on my way, and I am immediately welcomed by the city's rats.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1192.702

There's just a lot of those guys just hopping all over the place. For some reason, I got the Chris Reeves Superman movie from the 80s in my head where the guy is hiding in the hidey hole. Lex Luthor pushes the button and it pushes him out so he gets killed by the train. And so I'm like, okay, are they moving trains maybe after hours? Am I going to make this?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1212.546

Fortunately, I make it to Copley Square without dying or getting eaten by a rat. And to your point earlier, though, Dax, of course it's locked.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1221.654

The whole place is locked.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1223.998

Now, I've got a real dilemma because now I know where I am and there's not a point that it surfaces as the trolley on the street for half a mile, mile maybe. One way to the left is known as the E line, which is where I had gone to school at Northeastern. I know that way, but that's not where I live now. That's the wrong way.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1243.837

And then straight ahead would be through the Heinz Convention Center to Kenmore Square, and then the trolley surface up there. I'm like, that's where I live. That's where I wanna go. I'm gonna hoof it.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1261.567

Most people I think probably would have slept. I start up the next leg and this leg would be much longer and there's still plenty of rats to keep me company. And about maybe three, four blocks up, I miraculously come upon an emergency exit. Oh, it's a door. I opened the door and there's kind of a stairwell that looks like it's going to nothing. So I start to climb the stairwell.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1287.093

And as I near the top, I see a little bit of light and it turns out that I am walking up a staircase to a street grate in the sidewalk. Oh, There's an emergency handle there. I pop the handle. I flip this grate up. And as I'm emerging, now it's like, you know, 1.15 in the morning. All the bars are letting out. It's summertime. Everyone's having the time of their life.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1312.938

And they're looking at me like, what in the world? There's a subterranean Teenage Mutant Ninja.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1319.824

Subway dweller coming up. But fortunately, I'm out and I'm free. And you're lucky no one fell in. I don't even remember if I closed it. Who knows? You know, I was just so happy to be out of that situation. I look at my watch and it's 120. Last call's at 130. Right across the street is a place called the Cactus Club. Referencing a lot of stuff from Boston.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1338.194

Over in Harvard Square, there used to be a place called Hong Kong. And they would do this thing called a scorpion bowl, which is basically a mixing bowl of rum. Uh-huh. Cactus Club had its equivalent of that. They had the Cactus Bowl. And this is for like three to five people, right? You normally have that with your friends. I walked in, I ordered one of those, and I sucked the whole thing down.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1361.808

Well, it's going to take the edge off, right?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1368.271

Boston's got a lot of referencing points. You know, you got to know where you are. So now totally inebriated, but at least a lot less stressed. I walk out, I grab that cab.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1378.942

Not at all.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1380.063

I'm alive. I'm drunk. I get home. My now wife, then girlfriend, obviously sound asleep. I'm like, hey, wait till you hear this story. Oh, that's great.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1413.454

There's one footnote to this story. Years later, I'm in sales now. I'm now working for this company, and I have an opportunity to sell the service to... to the MBTA, the T. I get a meeting at their headquarters. I'm in the big conference room with all the maps and the guys come in and I'm like, listen, before we talk about what we're here to talk about, I gotta tell you guys a story, right?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1436.905

And so I tell this tale. I can't tell if they were totally aghast or they were like, ah, that's par for the course. But needless to say, I got some good cred going into the meeting. We didn't end up closing the deal, but it doesn't really matter. It was the point of telling the story.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1461.995

My wife is a huge arm cherry. I guess this was a prompt a number of years ago, and she knew the story and she missed it. And so when the prompt came up again, she's like, we got to get you in this time. She wrote it. She didn't really write it all that well. I had to obviously rewrite it with all that color. But she would love to say hi.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1481.889

Jen, here we go.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1513.574

Yeah. We need you.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

1518.797

You're so fun. Both of you. Thank you so much. We really appreciate what you guys do and we love it. Okay.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

2294.551

On a fucking bus.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

970.231

Got a drum kit behind us. What do we got? Little man cave. Yeah, it's the drum studio. Stick monkey studio down here in the basement.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Public Transit

993.02

But I got that from the windshield. So the story about this thing is a year ago, I was at a classic car show. There was a charity raffle. I bought a $20 raffle ticket, and I won a 1973 VW thing. No way. Was it in gorgeous condition? No. There's a reason why people donate cars to charity.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

1010.447

Was she crying?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

1057.248

Oh, my God. And your parents are just like standing there?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

1129.323

Oh, my Lord, Nick. Six months.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

1222.256

And then you feel guilty.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

1522.495

Well, she probably needs to get on medication. Oh, sure, sure, sure, sure. So that's the solution.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

1641.386

Well, you're doing amazing work, it sounds like.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

1648.268

Have a great day. Great meeting you.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

1949.638

I had a scary feeling when you said Karen arrived right after you left.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2031.498

It also doesn't even make sense that he would send flowers to his own work. Why wouldn't he just bring flowers?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2139.595

Oh, she was from Michigan.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2145.459

Oh, my God. What if?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2148.0

Should we ask him what the real name was?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2153.097

I'm good.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2157.659

My best friend picked it because she thinks, do I look like a Hannah? I think you do.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2164.444

I think I'd rather just say I'm in the Midwest.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2174.85

Maybe people are bored. Actually, it's been pretty here. Oh, I'm jealous.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2179.28

It's gloomy as hell here.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2183.672

This happened in 2017. It was eight years ago and there's things I would do differently. Let me just say that. So at the time, ride shares were fairly new to the area and I was really uncomfortable. It's sort of intimate, right? I mean, you're getting a stranger's car with a stranger driving you and it's like, go to my house.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2204.046

Yeah, a hundred percent.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2207.048

It was really weird. So for a while I was ride share adverse, but eventually I sort of accepted it. And probably about six months after I decided to start using ride share, I'm going to use that instead of a company name. Yeah. Thank you. So I was at a restaurant with my girlfriends and decided I wanted to ride share home.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2228.265

So I ordered a ride share and came to the restaurant and it was about 12 minutes from my house. So we're talking, this was a short drive. We're going to call driver bill.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2240.349

Like 8.45. It was not late. So I get in the car and driver Bill was really nice. I liked him. Chatty. Just small talk, nothing big, just a little fluffy.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2251.952

It's funny. So I'm 53 and I thought he was about 10 years older than me, but I actually think he was about eight years younger. Oh, my.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2260.896

Very hard miles. So we're pulling into my neighborhood and he says, these houses are so cute and I love this neighborhood and I wonder what the value of the houses are. And I said, well, interestingly enough, I'm a real estate agent. We talked just a little bit and he's pulling up to my house and I said, well, if you are serious about purchasing a house, here is my business card.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2286.11

So far, you're fine.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2288.552

You've done what most of us would do. So I learned later that a rideshare driver is not allowed to call someone outside of the ride. After the ride, it's done.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

23.385

Scary.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2307.763

That's good. I mean, I'm glad to know that. Some of that stuff actually happened closer to like 2019. In response. This was in the beginning. It was a little bit of risky business. Wild West. Right. So I give him my card and I go into my house and it's 9 p.m. And I climb into bed and I'm sleeping. All of a sudden, my phone dings at like 1130 p.m. Boom.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2329.307

And I get a text and it says, this is your ride share driver. You are a very elegant woman. Thank you for the card. And I will call you tomorrow. We had a couple of red flags there, but I was in the era. This is eight years ago of, I want to help people. And I'm like, And at that point, I'm like, oh, gosh. And I was really busy. But I thought, well, I'm going to process this a little bit more.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2373.213

So I say to him, listen, I'm super busy. Let's reconvene next week. Dude didn't wait. He was texting me. How are you? Did you have a good day? It got creepy. So I figured out very quick this dude don't want to buy a house. Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2386.783

Probably.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2391.666

So at some point I just pulled back. I'm not going to respond to this. It's getting weird. Fast forward a few days and I've pulled up to my company parking lot. All of a sudden I get this barrage of text messages from this guy. He is going off on me. He is saying, you promised me this. You promised me that. And you have not done what you were supposed to. And it goes on. I mean, he's cussing at me.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2414.861

He's like, I am on my way to your office.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2418.183

Oh, fuck.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2419.444

What I responded with is, I cannot work with you. Here is the name and number of a colleague of mine who has your name. Call him. He is waiting for your call.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2429.994

Trying to keep it professional. Well, all of a sudden my phone is blowing up. And I thought, well, I'm going to answer one time because I want to just set a boundary and say we're done. So I pick up the phone and of course he's screaming and kind of going off. And I said to him, I sent you the information. Don't ever call me again. Great. Okay. Hug up.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2448.649

He texts me, I am truly on my way to your office. It was terrifying. So I go into my office. And of course, at the time, I told my manager in the front desk and they locked the office down. Thankfully, he never showed up. But for the next week, someone always walked me to my car. This was scary stuff.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2468.121

Yes. Oh, it was awful. And I did not block him because I thought if something happens, I want record of he threatens me or something. But he didn't call. He didn't text. So I really thought we're fine. Well, about a week later, I open up Facebook and my Facebook is public because of my job. And this is how I market myself. But I have a friend request from this guy. I am like, leave me alone.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2490.876

And so at that point, I think he knows what my children look like. It's obvious he could have found me, but I guess I'm still kind of naive thinking this guy is gone, but he wasn't. So at that point, I think I've got to call ride share corporate.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2519.205

Thanks for the $8. And I just responded like, what are you guys doing about this? Tell me. And they said, well, it's private. We can't tell you.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2528.932

And you should call the cops. He no longer works for this ride share company. Well, then nothing happened. So I thought, well, maybe he got into trouble and we're done. So I've got my 10-year-old son, my 13-year-old daughter in the car with me and it's night. And I'm pulling down the road to my house and I see this car in front of my house.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2547.745

And for a minute, I thought, well, maybe a neighbor's having people over. But I'm looking around thinking nobody's having a party. I can tell. So I pull into my driveway with the kids. It's the same shape car. It's the same color. And I can see there's a man sitting in the front seat. It was Bill. And I was so scared. I locked the doors of my car and I called the police.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2570.223

And I thought, I don't want my children 30 feet from this crazy man. And so I said, guys, we're going to run to the house. Maybe that was a bad mistake, but it was what I did. So we all jumped out of the car and we ran to the door and I locked the doors. So I'm standing at the front door and he's not left.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2584.48

And I see the police lights and I can hear the sirens coming down the street and he takes off. Yeah. I run to the street and there were two police cars and I run up and I said, he just left. Go chase him. He drove off. And then the other guy, I just told the whole story too. And unfortunately, the first police officer comes back and he says he was gone. I couldn't find him.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2603.165

And he says, well, what is his name? And so I had the name from Facebook. So I gave him the name and he went back to his car and did what he did. And he comes back and both of them just say, look, he has not broken any laws. There's nothing we can do, which I'm sure you've heard this.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2630.48

Yeah, I know. Why aren't they doing that? What they said to me is, we are going to patrol your block. We're going to drive in front of your house a lot more for now. And you call us if there's a problem. They were very nice, but, you know, their hands are tied. So nothing happens. Time goes by, and I think he's done.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2649.996

He got spooked. Right. We just broke up.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2652.799

Oh, God. It was like a month, six weeks. I get on Instagram, and he is following me. Wow. So I went to his Instagram profile before I blocked him. And I guarantee he had just created that profile because the picture was like the day before. He had no followers. Like 12 minutes, let go of me.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2673.924

Yeah, this is... He has a real hang up.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2678.329

Oh, I blocked him and he never came back around. And I actually looked him up as a realtor. We have an app on our phone that allows us to do background checks. And I don't know why I'd never thought of it, but he is many states away at this point.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2694.725

Yeah. The thing is, when we have these stories, I don't ever feel better about.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2702.933

I know. It's sad. I mean, there was a woman who was murdered by an Uber driver a couple years later. And even as realtors, crazy things have happened. So at least people are more aware of these things. And there are safeguards in place that were not before with some of the rideshare and also as agents. They've taught us new things.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2722.832

And it's sad that times have changed and we're not completely safe. But in my business, I'm out in front of the public. I'm networking with strangers.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2736.707

Right. So I'm giving out my business card a lot. But I will tell you... I have never given my business card again to a ride share driver.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2754.932

So I have to tell you guys, currently my son is 18. When he hit about 13 years old, they go from they love their mom to they don't want to speak to their mom.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2765.956

He turns 13, 14, and he doesn't want anything to do with me, but he can't drive. So I'm his ride share. That's right.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2774.227

I don't get paid. So I would take him places and, of course, try to talk. I'm all cheery, you know, and he's like, Mama, stop. I don't want to talk. I'm listening to music.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2783.639

So I started playing armchair expert and in particular armchair anonymous. And slowly I realized he was listening. And then I would drop him off. I'd say, do you want me to pause it till you get back in the car? And he says, yes. Oh, this is so cute.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2827.506

Yeah, that makes sense. Yes. Thank you very much for getting my teenage boy to talk to me.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2836.334

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2840.778

So nice to meet you.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2842.94

Thank you. I'll take that as a compliment. It is a compliment.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2848.425

Nice to meet you, too. It's tough out there.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2851.389

It's tough out there.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2854.31

Well, there were some scary girls in this batch. Oh, stalkers.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2860.172

Stalkers. We did it again. And we'll do it again.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2864.034

I love you.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

2871.583

We don't have a theme song for this new show, so here I go, go, go. We're going to ask some random questions, and with the help of our cherries, we'll get some suggestions. On the fly, Ryan Bishop.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

29.327

It's always pretty scary.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

32.108

But you can listen.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

35.449

Yeah, we do like that. I mean, it was still scary.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

41.582

Yeah, and you know what? It's perfect timing because I'm watching you. We didn't even plan this. The universe, the Sim, is so sparkly.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

51.167

It really does.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

547.437

There's probably a testosterone blocker.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

588.06

I hope he's in jail. I do want him to be in jail. That has to be the answer.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

609.411

I mean, I was wondering the same thing. Is that his or is that just kind of a weird obsession? We'd have to ask him. I think I'm good. I think I'm probably not going to ask him.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

762.313

You could pass for Nick.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

771.577

Okay. It could have been short for Nickelodeon.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

783.322

Oh, wow.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

787.204

How dare you?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

790.346

I don't think I would put that much thought in it.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

806.565

It's not speaking well for Seattle.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

820.854

Oh, my God. Yeah, none of the stalkers have called in.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

830.984

I want to hear it now.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

912.105

This is Nick. And this is Jack. We're best friends, ex-finance guys, and resident 90s experts. And every week on our podcast, The Best Idea Yet, we're bringing you the untold stories behind your favorite products. For instance, can you guess which billion-dollar fashion company went viral thanks to a rhinestone-covered tracksuit?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

929.918

Or which cartoon turned four turtles into a global toy empire by accident? It started as a joke. Last one, which cold beverage was so hated by Starbucks... They actually ended up acquiring it. Spoiler, the Frappuccino. Howard Schultz apparently thought cold coffee was super lame, and then he bought it. From Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles to Juicy Couture to the Orange Mocha Frappuccino.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Stalking II

951.132

Join us every week to learn how your favorite things got made. Follow The Best Idea Yet on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. And you can listen early and ad-free right now by joining Wondery Plus. And if this podcast lasts longer than 45 minutes, call your doctor.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

1460.722

Oh, wow.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

1635.457

Of course, yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

1643.051

Sure, sure.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

1690.723

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

1787.175

I love it. It's good quality.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

1885.822

Hi.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

2168.589

Oh boy.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

2477.656

So my name is Mary today.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

2491.224

I'm in the Midwest.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

2495.267

And of course, I'm changing some of the details to protect the innocent. Okay, great. Wow. Back when my daughter was in kindergarten, we were trying to get her into different activities to make friends. The sport that she chose first was t-ball. She was so excited about it, made lots of friends through all of that.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

2510.907

And as you know, with any group sport, you get added to a group text with tons of people.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

2516.833

If you're the parent, you're in the group text for sure. And so... Right off the bat, the first week, getting tons of notifications, I put it on silent and I'm thinking, I'll check this when I can. So around that same time, something that you should know is I was going through a divorce with my ex and he was having a good time. Different lifestyle. He's single. He's free.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

2536.744

He's not really dealing with the T-ball. He's not dealing with the T-ball.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

2544.548

During that time, I also wanted to take my kiddo on vacation. You know, you're just trying to make life as normal as it can be when you're going through something like that. And so I invited a new t-ball mom to go on this trip with me. And again, daughter was very excited. We actually go to Florida. So we're out on the beach, right? We're doing fun things. Not looking at my phone.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

2563.93

Notifications are off. Yeah. We get back to the room at the end of the night, pick up my phone, at least 50 notifications from the group text. I'm nervous because I'm thinking, oh no, someone got hurt at the t-ball. You know, something innocent happened. So I look at the text messages and the very first one in the list is my ex-husband. He's asking for a sexual favor from someone. Oh my God.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

2593.0

And that was obviously not intended for the T-Ball group text.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

2634.184

No! Is that right?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

2635.904

It's so close, but it wasn't someone from the text chain. I'm looking at these messages, right? And I'm with this fellow mom. on the t-ball team and i look up at her and she looks at me and our kids are with us and i'm like i don't know what to do so you had some dads that were cool about it like making jokes like oh lucky guy you are oh boy you know y'all come over and do that oh my god

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

2664.709

Okay. It got to the point where finally the coach stepped in and was like, hey guys, this group chat is for kindergarten t-ball. So let's keep it to that and move on. So. Needless to say, the rest of the T-ball season was very awkward because, you know, I woke up to a mom and you know they want to ask you about it.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

2710.53

Be considerate, right?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

2718.186

He said sorry to the group. You know, it wasn't intended, obviously, for this group text.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

2723.928

Oh, yeah. Oh, you did.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

2727.83

I was very upset, obviously. You know, I was so embarrassed. Again, you're just going through all this already. And in the moment, it felt like my world was ending, honestly. And I was so angry. But we're fine now. And it's a story to tell. We've come a long way. Great co-parenting relationship.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

2743.397

12 years ago. Wow.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

2770.545

He did a couple of times.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

2773.547

But yeah, I'd say we all lived happily ever after and we're good.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

2784.833

That's so funny that you said that, but no.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

2804.908

I started listening during COVID. I'm a very uptight person, as you can probably tell by I changed my name. And I even told her I wanted to change my voice when I was telling the story. But listening to your podcast has just like opened my mind in the best way. I learned so much. I actually have a few people in my life that struggle with addiction and it's hard for you to understand, right?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

2825.955

When you haven't been through it, it's been life-changing. And I just thank you so much.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

2834.865

Thank you. Have a good one. All right. Take care.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

371.854

Oh, boy. Oh, boy.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

617.869

Oh, geez.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

748.36

Oh, no.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Little League/Coaching

765.812

Oh, my God.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

100.779

By a geriatric Tanzanian just recovering from knee surgery.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1096.14

Girls going down on girls. Orgy fest. This happened with hamsters I had as a kid. I didn't know that. We didn't know the gender of the horses. Or horses. Whoa. What an insane. We didn't know the gender of the horses. I go, am I sucking this horse's vagina or penis?

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1124.751

We had horses in this hamster cage. It was really cruel, actually, what we did. But, no. Hamsters, not horses. Were you fucking a girl horse? Girl horse or a boy horse? I don't know. Either way, I got kicked. But I think they were hamsters, so they had sex with each other.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1147.029

Hamsters and horses. They bone, and then we have a bunch of baby hamsters. And then those babies, we kept one and gave the rest away. And then we didn't... We thought... that they wouldn't have sex with their own children, but they totally do. And then we had even more hamsters. I love that you had like a moral code. You're like, our hamsters will uphold this.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1169.602

No, I just thought like, it just, you know, I don't know. I thought like, oh, there's a pheromone. Yeah. I mean, when I was a kid, I was like, yeah, it's his son. Why would she have sex with her son? This fucking freaky-ass hamster. Freaky-ass hamster. She a fan, she a fan. The hamster's like, what are we doing?

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1189.894

This is so wrong. This is crazy. Look, I'll just get rid of your hamster boner.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1196.68

Broken hamster paws. I can't jerk my little hamster meat.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1232.503

Yeah, in less than a year. Crazy. They're fucking like rabbits, these hamsters.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1244.656

Yeah, that's what I mean. It's like a fifth of the space is occupied.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1267.266

What are they competing for, if not resources? Just dominance hierarchies? I'm assuming, yeah.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1271.788

I'm assuming they're like, hey, who's the hottest? Who's the biggest, baddest?

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1322.747

Omega males. We need a new word for these puss-ass mice. For these bitch-ass, puss-ass, basement-dwelling mice.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1357.8

I mean, yeah, I guess there's harems, though, probably, right? There's like one big badass mouse who fucks all the lady mice. I can't imagine it's equitable pussy.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1366.264

It's going to be the, you know... It's going to be like one to every eight, you know, whatever. Yeah, exactly.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1372.729

That's what I think happens, too.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1381.197

The aggressive males eat the young and then fuck the... Yeah. Fuck the ladies. That's what lions do. That's what Vikings do. That's what I did. What? Last week. What? I was hammered. Dude, five high lives? Yeah. I killed seven kids and banged their wives. No, I was eating hamsters. Oh, wait. Hold on. I was slurping hamsters down. Trying to dominate a different species hierarchy.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1422.101

I still think it's so funny. This sounds like a log from one of the... Day 600. I ate my own young in order to compete in the dominance hierarchy. I've been having sex with one of the beautiful ones. We'll get to the beautiful ones later.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1440.955

Sometimes I wish I could... Hang my own little mice neck, but I just slip through the noose like a little noodle. There's nothing to catch on.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1472.768

Oh, dude, I actually would be so curious. New York locals who are having babies has to be way lower than like a rural area.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1481.49

Yeah, because you think about a rural area and you're like, yeah, there's like nine farms here. They're all families and they all have several children. You have to have two kids per couple to be at one? Right. There's no way. I mean, how many dweebus fucking guys with red glasses are like, I've never wanted children. I actually really don't. I don't know.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1502.677

I have a hard time sympathizing with those folks.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1521.394

But isn't it, there's so many couples in New York that don't have kids, or they don't have many kids, and like, it's professional women, and they don't have as many kids. Yeah, of course.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

154.13

You came and you go, hey, you're f***ing up my podcast. No, I didn't do that. You said, hey, old f***. I did not do that. Why don't you waddle into someone else's show?

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1541.49

Yeah, they're all old and they had their first kid.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1547.455

They assume that I'm like... You're 30 and you have a child.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1565.106

You know what I mean? It's like increased like five or ten years in one generation.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1579.312

Your age. And no one was like... And she was like, oh, fuck.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1621.775

You're a hackles rub. You're like, dude, am I going to die? Yeah. It's like two guys are fighting at a bar. For some reason, now eight people are fighting at the bar. You're like, wait, why?

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1641.834

We're like a fight precipice bar. Sometimes fights...

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1660.02

Yes, the beautiful ones. I think I'd be a beautiful one.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1683.246

This is like the agoraphobic OCD rat. Yeah. It's like the Howie Mandel. Yeah. The Howie Mandel's in the world. Germaphobe. Germaphobe. I think I kind of imagine someone who's like from New York City and they just never leave their apartment.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1696.89

And you're like, why are you in the greatest city in the world again? And you're like fully detached, fully detached, like a spotless apartment by themselves.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1718.218

They're apathetic towards whatever gain they could have from winning the dispute.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1727.082

There's unlimited food and water. There's unlimited food and water. So it's almost like they understand something sort of. implicitly that like, okay, that violence is somewhat meaningless.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1742.275

Right. Why would I rise to a hierarchy that when I get at the top, it's the same as the bottom? Everything's the same. Yeah. That feels pretty... That's kind of spot on, you know, because people are like, that's why the, you know, that's kind of like I've noticed and I don't know.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1758.329

I think this is more of a trend now with like the Internet and things is that and gaming specifically and young men is like maybe not leaving the house till later. Um, not like wanting a driver's license is like a weird one. I mean, you meet like a guy who's like 22, 23. He still is at home. He games a lot. He doesn't have a driver's license. And I'm like, what do you do exactly?

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1778.384

He's like, well, there's groceries right there. I game right here. I goon right here. What am I after? What is the goal?

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

179.395

Yeah, Indianapolis for a show, Austin, and then the ones around New York, like Philly, Connecticut. Hell yeah. Yeah.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1809.198

For sure, dude. I think this is like Stanhope has a great bit about it. Back in the day, he called it in 2010 or something, he had a bit about it, about this is the first generation that will be lamer than the last. Every generation when I grew up was more rebellious, more rebellious. They did more drugs. They had more, you know, casual sex. They drank more. They did crazier shit.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1832.832

And now it's like, you know, the main source of pleasure is like Adderall and gaming. And you know what I mean? It's like very isolationist stuff. Yes.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1855.183

Yeah. Well, you need caffeine. Some people need caffeine. Oh, that's good. ASMR. Yeah, no, like, but also it's like what the world has to offer isn't that appealing.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1869.557

Yeah, which sucks. In the utopia, not in our life. No, not in our life.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1879.24

No, I mean, it's like, dude, there's no good jobs. College degrees are meaningless and a scam. And based on predatory loan practices, the economy is collapsing. The banks and corporations are just going to kind of stomp on us until we all die. Until we all die, it's like, you know, big tech's going to just rape our attention until we're just like Wally people.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1902.274

But we're going to be like Wally people with no money.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1936.781

It's really tough. I feel bad for it. I think it's, in our society, more of a male thing for whatever reason. I don't know why. But I do see that, like, the parallel between just, like, obsessive grooming and, like, you know, kind of agoraphobia almost in, like, young men, which kind of bums me out.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1958.347

Looks maxing, they're jelking. They're fucking... They're jelking and they're gooning and they're... They're mewing. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like, it's kind of... But they're not even incels, really. These are kind of voluntary celibates. Yeah. You know, these aren't even, like... You know, the incel is like the Omega male. Yeah.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1983.66

The Omega male is kind of an incel, whereas, like, the beautiful one is almost like something else. Where I've met people like that, they're not even interested in sex, really. Yeah. I wouldn't even classify... They're not, like, you know, smoking cigarettes in their fucking mom's basement and, you know, calling for the death of women, you know? Yeah.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

1999.87

They're just like, whatever, I just, like, play Fortnite, like, with my friends. Yeah. I just play Overwatch.

Camp Gagnon

The Most Chilling Social Experiment Ever | Universe 25

2028.794

They're just emulating what their folks are doing. I mean, you know, see monkey do.

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Yeah, it's disturbing if you, the obvious applications for real people. Yeah. It's a pretty one-to-one. Like you can go, oh, those are mice. It's not the same. And then you start reading it and you go, it's pretty much the same. Yeah, unfortunately, humans are animals. Yeah. No, I trust mice implicitly. I do. I think a mouse, if a mouse is having a hard time, I probably have a hard time too.

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And for some reason, 90% of the population lives in like 1% of the land for some reason. Yeah. Just all jammed up. Yeah. Cause I mean, if you look at the, you know, they're all coastal, they're all relatively fertile, like for the most part, you know, resource heavy.

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If you're relying on imports that way.

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Yeah, frequent unavoidable interactions. I mean, it would be nice, right? Like if you could just choose whenever you see someone else within the community, you know, if you have like a stable, like nice amount of space, nice amount of real estate. I think that's why folks like are drawn to more rural lifestyles and like, You know, like that fantasy of like, I just want land somewhere.

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You know, I think that's what it is. It's like, let me engage in social hierarchy when I want to, at my leisure or when I need to. Not when it's forced upon me. That's why, like, you know, you have someone from Omaha and they get on the subway and they're absolutely terrified. Not Omaha, it's a city. But, you know, like from Nebraska. I meant like from nowhere in Nebraska.

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And then they get onto the train and like, what the fuck? Like, this is insane. And you're like, nothing's going to happen. But they're like, but I'm in this space where there's so much potential for something to happen.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah, no, it's not a utopia. It's a utopia minus space. What happens when you have a utopia minus space? And you could argue that's what, like, a major city is. Yeah. Is a utopia minus space. It's like public transit's unbelievable in New York. Like, all the food is, like, so readily available. You know what I mean? All these things. Food, housing... and travel is all like super readily available.

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Yeah, facts. You ever see them push the lever for cocaine? Oh, yeah. Do you know that if they push the lever and they always get cocaine, it's not that interesting? Yeah, you need variable reward. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. If you push it sometimes and you get blow, you're fucking mad. But if you do it like, oh, yeah, I know, yeah, I get blow over there.

Camp Gagnon

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The caveat is there is forced interaction and limited space. So that's kind of what the universe 25 is. Yeah. You know, it's like you could stay in your apartment and over Uber eats all that. I mean, there's a ways around this idea, but still like, I think, you know, I think it's poignant still, but I, you know, obviously you can't map it one-to-one, but it's an interesting idea to look at.

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Sounds like a Western experience, I'll say.

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Well, that's the meaning angle. I think the point is, like, maybe space is, like, one factor here, but also meaning's a huge angle, and I think that if you're not...

Camp Gagnon

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actively striving for resources which is all a mice is meant to do all of my a mouse is meant to do is strive for resources enough to procreate you know which is a clear parallel between us and them and we've abstracted it into like you know jobs and money and blah blah blah but it's still like at the end of the day it's like i'm striving for resources in order to be comfortable enough to procreate

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah, that's why, yeah, if you just won the slot machine every time, it wouldn't be that fun. Yeah. But if you win sometimes, mostly never, then it's awesome.

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The stand-up comedy business. There's absolutely no reason. There's no reason. And it, like, keeps me up at night. I hate, you know, the stress and all these things. But, like, you know, I'm extremely drawn to it because of its implicit meaning for me.

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It's also like, you know, there's grannies in New York, you know, in third story walk-ups, and they can still, they crush it at 89. And you're like, well, it's because they always had to. You don't have an option not to. You got to do that.

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Let's get you a little lift. Yeah, we get you a lift. We get you a bed that you're going to sink into and get sores.

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Fundamentally, it's just exercise. I mean, my family has always, like, all the people, like my grandparents, if they've passed away, it was at a pretty, it was quite an old age. That's sick. And all of them had physical, either enterprises or jobs that required them to be that way. Yeah. none of them were ever immobile. Like none of them were ever, like lame in any serious way. Yeah.

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And it's like, I you can easily chalk that up to my grandpa lived till 90. And he was a distance runner.

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Andrew Jackson. That's exactly right. Yeah, I knew that.

Camp Gagnon

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And then my granny was like an avid runner too. And then my grandpa lived to his 90s. And he was a worked blue collar. So like all these guys like bust their ass, like basically had to bust their ass. And now you're like looking at these sedentary jobs and you're like, man, like it's crazy. It's also like I've heard it correlated to Alzheimer's. I've heard it correlated to colon cancer. Yeah.

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If you sit for 40 hours a week and don't exercise, it's crazy. It's like you're smoking. Yeah, it's terrible. Just the guy with the factory job is infinitely healthier than you because he has to walk around and move some boxes eight hours a day.

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Except for the forklift that crushes his femur.

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Yeah, like my pops is in his, he's pushing 70 and he's like extremely fit.

Camp Gagnon

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Like, dude, just work out so you don't die. I think it's just work out, like, I mean, I've heard the best longevity things are heart and balance. Yeah. So it's like cardiovascular health and balance because people, like, they just eat shit when you're fucking 73 and you can't get up. Yeah. And it's like, that's really bad. Yeah. Like, if you can't. Life alert vibes. That's what life alert's for.

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Yeah. Dude, literally, if you're a mobile person, though, and hopefully you still have dexterity in your joints and things like this just because you've been exercising your whole fucking life, is that you can pop back up and be okay.

Camp Gagnon

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I'm trying to think. Sometimes, but maybe not so much physical stuff. I'll go out of my way to go, all right, no podcast, no music on this car ride. That's fine. Only thoughts.

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Or like, how can I handle this okay? And like, you're mitigating a certain anxiety by doing those things. And I'm like, why is this, I'm driving to work. Why do I, why would this make me anxious? And then you can be like, well, this thing's bothering me about this thing. And then you can go, oh, actually, well, that's an easy thing to fix. And you can work.

Camp Gagnon

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And then you go, okay, I'll just fix that. You know, whatever it is. Or it's meaningless drivel that's making you anxious. And then you can go, why is meaningless drivel making me anxious right now? I should just ignore this. This is not worthy of whatever. But you can confront the anxiety rather than kind of run from it.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah, it's like the Buddhist monkey mind thing, if you've ever heard the monkey mind thing. It's like there's just always monkey chatter in your brain. It's basically like passive thought. I learned this thing about anxiety that most of the time when you're having... Just kind of long-term, low-lying anxiety that it's a kind of passive thought. You're not actively engaged with it.

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It's like somewhere in the back of your mind, you're like, I'm going to die from a fucking colon cancer that I'm pretending I have. You know, whatever. It's like you're not focused on it. You're not fixated.

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am good and don't just indulge in the craving i go give it 15 minutes will you still want sugar in 15 minutes is part of that gooning yeah just like late night just like edge yeah exactly and that's what yeah i agree what's the longest you were ready for four or five hours maybe Dude, what you do, this is a little edge guide for you guys. Especially, it's good in college.

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What I used to do was I would take Vyvanse, which is similar to Adderall. And what you do is, I was in college, so I would have stuff to do. I would have important assignments. And Vyvanse lasts like eight hours, 10 hours. It lasts fucking forever. So I could knock out my shit in three, four hours. This assignment, this big assignment I had to do lock in on Vyvanse.

Camp Gagnon

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And then you still got, now you got five, five more hours of goon time. Oh, so, okay. I'm done with my essay. Awesome. Let me get four screens up and goon. And then you would just fucking edge and goon for another four or five hours. Or you could game and chain smoke cigarettes. That's another great thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Camp Gagnon

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What you want to do is you want to crack open your sliding door, set up a chair near the sliding door, big TV, chain smoke in between COD lobbies. Wow. And be fucking gacked out of your mind. By having a sick time. Oh, yeah, and just smoke a pack of cigarettes in four hours. Yeah, that's awesome. So you could do that, too. That feels really good. You ever use Edge AI?

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Right. Because if you ever look at a map where you go, if the population was as dense as Paris, it's like we could fit everybody in Louisiana.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah, this is really bad for the fabric of society. I know. I use the AIs. It's good. Dude, yeah, I mean, I've known people that go, hey, I got a fleshlight. I go, don't. Just don't do that. Just don't do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just don't get one, you know? This is how I feel in general about, like, AI, I think, is the fleshlight of art. It's a shark jump? It's not a shark jump.

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It's just, like, cheating. Oh. It's totally cheating. But you don't think a flashlight's cheating. No, it's cheating, like, it's cheating life. Ah, I see. The sanctity of piss.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah, here's the problem, though, right? No one will do that. But no one does that with sugar, you know what I mean? No one does that with sugar. No one does that with social media. No one does that with pornography. No one does that with sports gambling. No one does that with eating anything. It's like across the board, we live in a brave new world. It's just brave new world. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Camp Gagnon

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And you're like, oh, so there's plenty of space. And then you're like, no, not really. It's not really how that works at all.

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We live in a brave new world, fully.

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You can choose to opt out, but I think these companies who do all these things should be

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heavily drawn and quartered they should be drawn and quartered heavily regulated trust busted um busted trust busted and probably um tried for crimes against humanity okay well that seems it seems a little strict but have you have you heard of uh uh i i think this is how you pronounce it haiki komori let me see haiki komori no it's Hikikomori. Hikikomori. Hikikomori.

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Yeah. No, Japan's an especially one like this, you know? They have some serious social things going on. Yeah. You're about to go. I'm about to go. I'm excited. Do a little experiment? Mm-hmm. Go to a couple maid cafes. Go to the soap store. What's it called? The Soap Tugs? Oh, the Soap Land. Soap Land. Yeah. I'm going to go. Yeah, my girlfriend's coming with me, but...

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I mean, they probably got something for her.

Camp Gagnon

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She'd think it's so cute. And she would have no idea. Meanwhile, I'm getting my shit absolutely cranked at the soap store. You're getting it six ways.

Camp Gagnon

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She's dressed up like a cow and there's like, you know. She's getting milked. I'm getting fully milked here. You're on a milking table.

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That'd be sick as hell. Yeah. They actually eat quite a lot of dairy. That's interesting. You'd think it was, there's not, it's not traditional though. It's like not in traditional Japanese food.

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I don't think so. No, they're an introduced thing.

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But like cheese and dairy and stuff is like blown up in popularity. Whoa. Since like becoming more westernized.

Camp Gagnon

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I don't even think... Yeah, we didn't even know beef could do that. No. They were like, let's pet it and give it beer and chestnuts. Our dumbasses. Yeah. The Germans were like, look at the... Kicking it in the udders. Put a bell on his neck. These fucking idiots. Yeah, we've been stapling a tag to its ear.

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He's like, we're going to do the universe 25. I don't know. What are people from Norway sound like? My wife. That's basically it.

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uh go and eat our uh dude i remember seeing this like little weird tiktok about a lady who was just drinking all the time like this like a skinny pretty young japanese woman who had a kind of meaningless life no dating or anything and she would just drink just be drunk all the time yeah just check out i'm like that's crazy you're like a 110 pound like japanese waifu and you're just getting hammered the desire to uh just to withdraw yeah just get away yeah

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But if the opposite of this is urban sprawl, it can go fuck itself.

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Like, there's not like three places to eat in this massive place. There's like a hundred smaller places to eat.

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How often are they bumping into each other? I've noticed that. I don't know if this is the same idea, but it might have just been a physical convenience. But I swear there were at Universal Studios when I worked there, several small cafeterias spread throughout. Yeah. There'd be like a 20 seater cafeteria. Yeah. And you're like, why isn't there just like a couple big ones?

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It seems like a move like a theme park would do for its employees. They're very logistical in that sense.

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Isn't that logically more human? Like, how many people were our fucking cavemen brothers eating around? Like, 80? Tops? Tops.

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Yeah, and then they split off into multiple groups. And they'll create two. Yeah, naturally. Yeah, yeah. That makes sense. I wonder how much... Yeah.

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I wonder how long that takes and how incest is mitigated in that. Because if you have a group of 160... Enough with this. I mean, how many times are you going to bring up incest? I just like to think about it. But you know what I mean? There's 160 people everywhere. It's like... It's like Appalachia, but they're isolated. That was their problem.

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Yeah, but are they knowledgeable? Do they understand this? I guess maybe through common wisdom, they're like...

Camp Gagnon

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okay like we're getting a little too we gotta switch things up I mean consider we got here there's something that must be intrinsic about it yeah whether it's pheromonal or something something else right well cause there's harems too like wasn't it like one dude that would have many women like isn't that pretty normal yeah It seems like it. I don't know.

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That would happen at the top of the hierarchy, and then most people would be semi-serially monogamistic, whatever the word is. I don't know. I don't know enough about human reproduction, unfortunately.

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It's interesting though, because like they are functioning, but just within that like modality or whatever.

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That's not the problem in New York. There's plenty of shit. There's food everywhere. Yeah, there's bodegas on the phone.

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Like they're doing a function, but it's not, I mean, it's functional like for their interpersonal thing, you know?

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To survive their life for that specific space. Yeah. Which is why,

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not you know whatever call me a libcuck whatever it's like dude obviously institutional racism has just been devastating in this sense yeah of course because like you create communities where violence is a norm and then that perpetuates more violence or poverty violence anything like you know we're redlining we're doing all this horrific shit

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Right, and then, like, you know, then that's the concept of, like, getting out, you know, is, like, that idea of getting out or not returning, you know, is, like...

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And you're like, why is a Chinese donut shop a thing?

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you don't ever get out there's a clear example you go my somali father did this his uncle did this you know it makes perfect sense and you just have a path into it and so without ever someone else ever showing you how to get out of that that line like you just never learned which is why yeah it's interesting too because i don't know if i've never felt that way really about what like there was a specific thing drawn out for me i think that's more of an immigrant experience

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Grill them over an open flame. Find a Puerto Rican and be like, hey, can you toss this on? And they probably will. Dude, I used to live near a lot of Bolivians and South Americans.

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You could. No, you could. I feel like all the kids who sold pot were very social. I wasn't social enough. You've got to have a lot of phone numbers. Dude, my social anxiety is really holding up my drugs. It would be. I'd be like, where do you want to meet? Oh, that sounds stupid.

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Yeah. And they used to make guinea pig on the street. Really? They'd be roasting up a guinea pig right in front of the M train. And? Have you tried it? No, I never tried it, but I'm not against eating a guinea pig. I would eat a guinea pig.

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And just changing little details and seeing how it changed the universes. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. That everyone kind of, kind of, you know, grabbed onto.

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No. You're not excelling. Yeah. And your competence isn't like this one-to-one thing. I think that one of the worst things about modern society is detachment from results within workplaces. Mm-hmm. And that's why I think like the trades have had this sort of like, at least in image renaissance, you know, people going like, it's important. Like if you can weld, that's great.

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Like that's a good, you know, before it was like, go to college, get an office job. That's better because it makes more money and it's easier. But now people are like, no, they're seeing real virtue and meaning in, you know, whatever it is.

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of their work at the end of the day dude literally building a brick wall and then going look at that wall i made is is like key for life yeah and you know who said something about that carl marx Got your ass.

Camp Gagnon

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Damn, I'm a comic? You talked about the sort of alienation from special, like, because being coming specialized makes you alienated. So, like, you know, in Marx's time, he saw the Industrial Revolution, so you see the difference between, like, cottage industry, where it's like, I'm the guy who makes clothes, and I A to B clothes, like...

Camp Gagnon

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you know, A to Z clothes rather, like, you know, I get the wool, I put it together, I have my own loom, I do all my own shit, and now there's a shirt. And at the end, there's a fucking shirt. But then you go to the shirt factory, and you're like, I'm the guy who puts a button, puts one button on.

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And then, yeah, if I die, I'm completely replaceable and meaningless. Yeah. So that idea, I think, is very important about work. Yeah, I think that's true. So I guess, like, those three things, find a thing that makes you competent.

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But those are just one of those animals that we just happen to have as pets. Yeah, I mean, the difference between that and a rabbit is none.

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Yeah, I'll probably freeze a banana and shove one up there. Dump your face in Saratoga water.

Camp Gagnon

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Dump my face in Saratoga water and wake up at 4 a.m. with a bandaid on my nose for some fucking reason. And then do a fucking sick dive. Yeah. And then say we need at least 10,000 for some reason. Yeah. And then have like a woman with long acrylic nails. White woman. Snow bunny. Was it a white woman? Oh, hell yeah. My dream. Snow bunny.

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And then, you know, eat like a big plate of avocado toast with like weirdly maple syrup or something on it. Yes. Yeah. You do that every day. I do that every morning.

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Thanks for joining us. What's up? I'm Christoph. Please listen to my podcast. It's called Rough Week. What's up? I'm Christoph. Please listen to my podcast. It's called Rough Week. Thanks a million. We'll see you guys next time. Peace.

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And I've eaten rabbits several times.

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And I don't feel good. We also had a pet rabbit. Yeah, I had two pet rabbits. Really? Yeah, Kevin and Isabel. That's not true. I don't remember their names.

Camp Gagnon

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Dude, the GoFundMe raise wars are getting crazy. You see this? Yeah, of course. She's raised like $300,000 because she called someone the N-word. And you go, I've been doing this for free.

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I think the max was, what, 3,000 or something like that?

Camp Gagnon

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That's its capacity, not... Yeah, it's interesting. Keep going, but it's like where it starts to fall apart isn't even close to 3,000. Way before that. Yeah.

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Probably not Williamsburg. Probably more like, you know, maybe Bushwick or maybe an Astoria.

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Yeah, it's perfect mice weather.

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All the amenities you want. They're doing little mouse push-ups. Disease-free. They're coming through, cleaning up poop all day. They clean up the poo-poo, and they filtered all of them. No sick mice allowed. Nope. If you got a cough, you're gone.

Camp Gagnon

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And this guy's staring at mice in a big cage. Yeah, exactly. And he goes, this is our world.

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Yeah, he goes, this is just like New York City. Yes. Universe 26. Universe 26. Is where I'm with the mice. I become one with the mice. I blend my genetics with the mouse. I become the mouse. I become the Uber mouse.

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I was amazed that just the fuck rate was really high. Oh, yeah. You realize, like, yeah, after 100 days, they've...

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500x and you're like what the fuck no they'd be going buck wild you know what i learned recently about um mice in particular is that there's no like there is like if they do incest it doesn't matter the genetic variability between a mouse that's related to it's to you know another mouse and like a non-related mouse is so negligible that there's not like incest doesn't like bear any problems

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They're just too genetically similar across the board.

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Yeah. So your sister is very fuckable.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah, if a mouse saw its stepsister stuck in the dryer, it would just have sex with it, and then it wouldn't even be that taboo.

Camp Gagnon

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But then what happens is, like, okay, my parents are cousins. I have sex with my cousin. You know, it's, like, it's not good. Once you get, like, multi-generational incest, then you're, like, really fucking with it. It seems exponential. Why is it not good? I mean, look, I don't know. I saw a documentary. You got something against disabled kids?

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yeah so i uh i saw like a documentary about uh i forget where it was but it was somewhere in england where there was um i forget where they were from but they were from an arab country which is fine and and there was like such a high rate of incest in this particular community in england of arab immigrants and then they showed all their like freaky disabled kids and it's like

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they're talking to the the mother and father and like well we're cousins my parents are cousins which is really her uncle you know it's like it's really yeah you know the venn diagram becomes a circle at a certain point yeah and uh family tree is just a racetrack yeah yeah there's one branch and it's crooked and uh the uh kids all have like terrible diseases

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one kid was like blind and mentally handicapped and you're saying they should have thrown a mouse in there should have thrown a mouse like give a mouse a pussy that's a fire kids give a mouse a pussy yeah if you give a mouse a pussy it's Bernie Mac reading it's gonna try to move in and when he's moving in

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Yeah, it was invaded by injured Tanzanians in their 80s.

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That's what it's all about.

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Exactly. And he does it with this incredible sense of wonder and acceptance. It's like he's constantly discovering something new, even in the most ordinary things. Like in Section 31, where he talks about finding letters from God dropped in the street and seeing the divine in the faces of men and women.

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It is. He's like retraining us to look closer, to pay attention, and to find those moments of grace in the everyday.

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It's like he sees this blurring of boundaries, this merging of the self with the world around him.

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That's a great way to put it. He's inviting us to discover the vastness and complexity within ourselves, just like he's exploring the vastness and complexity of the world around him.

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Exactly. He wants us to be active participants, to engage with the world and find our own sense of wonder and connection.

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Ah, yes. The big mystery. It's a topic that makes a lot of people uncomfortable, but Whitman doesn't shy away from it at all.

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He doesn't treat it like this morbid or depressing thing. It's more like he's acknowledging death as just a natural part of life, a transition, not an ending.

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Yeah. And the images he uses are so powerful. Like when he says, and as to you, corpse, I think you are good manure, but that does not offend me. I smell the white roses, sweet, scented and growing. I reach to the leafy lips. I reach to the polished breasts of melons. He's really not shying away from the physical reality of death, the decomposition of the body.

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It is. It's such a different way of looking at death than what we're used to in our culture. We tend to deny it, push it away. But Whitman's urging us to face it head on, to accept it as a natural part of the cycle of life.

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There's always more to discover in Whitman's work. He was such a complex person and his poetry reflects that. Every time you go back and read Song of Myself, I think you'll find new layers of meaning.

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Exactly. He actually says, I find I incorporate nice coal, long threaded moss, fruits, grains. He's not using fancy metaphors here. He's listing these very specific earthy materials to drive home this powerful point.

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That's a great way to put it. It's like a conversation that spans across time, connecting us to Whitman and to each other.

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Yeah, exactly. He even writes, you shall not look through my eyes either, nor take things from me. You shall listen to all sides and filter them from yourself. He wants us to be active readers, to engage with the work and come to our own conclusions.

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Exactly. It's about taking the knowledge and making it your own.

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And that's the beauty of great art, right? It speaks to each of us individually, even as it connects us to something bigger.

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That's a great question. I think at its core, Song of Myself gives us this path to self-discovery and a deeper connection with everything around us. It encourages us to embrace who we are, to see the beauty in the everyday, and to find a sense of belonging in the universe.

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That's beautiful. I think that's a great place to pause for a second and let those ideas sink in. We've covered so much in this deep dive, but there's still so much to explore in Song of Myself. We'll be back in just a sec to wrap up with some final thoughts and some questions to leave you with. Stick around.

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It really shows just how vast Whitman's vision was and his skill with language is incredible. He takes all these huge themes and weaves them into something that's both complex and incredibly personal. And I think that's why it still speaks to people today.

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Right. This was totally radical for the time. Yeah. And it makes you think, where do you draw the line between yourself and everything else?

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Exactly. That's what makes it so powerful. It's not just a pretty poem to admire. It's a call to action. Whitman wants us to really engage with these ideas, to let them change us.

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I like that because Song of Myself isn't just some intellectual exercise. It can be a guide for how to live a better life.

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That's a good question to start with. And it goes beyond just accepting yourself. You know, Whitman wants us to look for those connections to find common ground with people who seem different from us. How can you be more understanding and empathetic when you interact with people?

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Right. And he reminds us that this connection goes beyond just humans. Remember how much he loved nature, how he was in awe of even the smallest creatures. How can you connect more deeply with the natural world? Can you find that same sense of wonder in the everyday things?

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Definitely not. Whitman isn't giving us a step by step guide or anything. He wants us to go on our own journeys of self-discovery, find our own answers, sing our own songs.

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I think you might be right. It's about embracing the unknown, trying new things and letting ourselves change and grow.

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Exactly. It's about living with intention and awareness. It's about choosing to see the world with a sense of wonder and gratitude, even when things are tough.

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That's a beautiful thought. Whitman's Song of Myself reminds us that life is this amazing gift, a chance to experience and connect and create.

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I couldn't have said it better myself. And I think it's time to wrap up our deep dive.

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Oh, you mean the line, a mouse is miracle enough to stagger sextillions of infidels? Yes.

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Yeah, that line just elevates something so small and ordinary to the level of the cosmos. He's saying even the tiniest things are full of value and beauty. It's like this call to pay attention, to find the miracle in everyday things.

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Especially back then. The Victorian era was all about social repression, especially around those topics. But Whitman, he's like, nope, I'm going there. He flat out says, I am not the poet of goodness only. I do not decline to be the poet of wickedness also. He's acknowledging the duality within us all, the light and the shadow, and he refuses to sugarcoat it.

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Exactly. He's really challenging us to look at all parts of ourselves, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

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Oh, absolutely. I mean, this is the 1800s we're talking about. To write so openly about sexuality was scandalous. But he forces us to confront those parts of ourselves that we might want to deny. What makes you uncomfortable? What parts of yourself do you try to hide? These are the questions Whitman's throwing right at us.

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Right. He's writing during this time when America is all about equality and opportunity for all.

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He really throws open the doors to this incredibly diverse cast of characters, butchers, runaway slaves, clam diggers. Yet these are not your typical poetic subject.

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And he's showing us the beauty and dignity in their lives.

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Oh, yeah. Such a powerful statement of inclusivity.

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It's a question that feels surprisingly relevant, even though he wrote it over a century ago.

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He was a master at using language to create this full sensory experience. It's not just what you see. You hear the sounds, smell the smells, feel the textures. It's amazing.

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I love that one.

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And remember, this is all written in free verse, which was totally revolutionary for its time. Think about traditional poetry, all about structure, rhymes, and following the rules.

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Yeah, exactly. But Whitman just tosses all that out. He's breaking free from those constraints, just like he wants us to break free from the limitations we put on ourselves.

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Ooh, exciting.

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Right. It's not. He's giving us the whole picture, the beautiful and the ugly, the joyous and the painful.

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Oh, definitely. This was a time when poetry was much more focused on beauty, nature, and kind of idealized versions of life. But then Whitman comes along and says, nope, we're looking at it all.

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He was. He was challenging norms on every level. But there's also this undeniable beauty in his writing. It's raw, it's honest, but it's also incredibly poetic.

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Definitely. He was more than just a poet. He was a visionary. He saw the world differently and he wanted to share that vision with everyone.

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That's such a good point. And it's one of the things that makes Song of Myself so timeless. It speaks to people across generations and cultures because it deals with these themes of self-discovery, connection, and finding meaning in life, things we all struggle with.

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So much upheaval.

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That's a beautiful way to put it. And I think that's a great place to pause for a moment. We've covered a lot of ground, but there's still so much more to explore in Song of Myself.

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Yeah. And maybe the most radical example of that is like his treatment of the human body. This is where he really breaks away from the norms of his time. I mean, he celebrates the physical self in a way that was unheard of in the 19th century.

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Exactly. Don't forget, this is the Victorian era. It was all about being proper. And there was so much repression, especially when it came to sexuality. But Whitman just tosses all those social rules right out the window. He says, welcome is every organ and attribute of me and of any man hardy and clean. Not an inch nor a particle of an inch is vile.

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It's like he's reclaiming the body, declaring that it's inherently good, worthy of celebration.

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Totally. He's doing that on purpose. You know, he wants to get rid of all the shame and secrecy that surrounded the body back then. He's saying, let's just talk about this. Let's acknowledge our physical selves. And he goes even further than just acceptance. He actually elevates the body to this almost sacred level. He even writes this head more than churches, Bibles, and all the creeds.

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Right. More sacred than any church. And it's not just about the individual either. It's about this like shared humanity we all have. He sees this embrace of the body as a way of connecting with other people, of experiencing life to the fullest. It's about breaking down all these barriers of shame and judgment and celebrating what unites us.

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I love that analogy. He's kind of like a rebel poet shaking things up.

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Oh, for sure. It caused quite a stir. I mean, some people were totally scandalized, obviously, but others were drawn to his honesty, his willingness to talk about the things that were considered taboo.

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That's a great point. It speaks to Whitman's embrace of duality. He's not interested in like separating or denying any part of himself. He's aiming for this like wholeness, a completeness that includes it all.

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Exactly. And he's challenging us to do the same, you know, to confront those parts of ourselves we might try to hide, to embrace our full humanity, even the messy parts.

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Section 28. Oh, yeah, that's a memorable one.

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It is. And it's a passage that still causes a lot of debate and different interpretations even today. Some people see it as the celebration of pure desire, while others see it as a depiction of like domination, maybe even assault. What do you think?

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Right. And I think that's part of what makes it so powerful. Whitman isn't giving us these easy answers, you know, or clear interpretations. He's giving us this raw glimpse into the human heart and leaving us to wrestle with it with all its complexities.

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Yeah, exactly. And I think that's why it's so important. He's challenging us to push past our comfort zones. to engage with the messy reality of being human without judgment. He's not trying to be our moral compass or lay down a set of rules. He's just showing us life as he sees it.

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You're right. It's not about titillation. His sensuality is about recognizing the beauty and power of the body as a way to experience the world, a way to connect with something bigger than ourselves.

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Exactly. It's like this reminder that spirituality isn't separate from our bodies. You know, it's all connected. It's in the way we move, feel, experience the world through our senses.

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It's so easy to fall into that trap. But Whitman's calling us back, reminding us to embrace our physicality and to find the divine within ourselves.

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It really is. And it can lead to a much deeper understanding of ourselves and our place in the universe.

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It's an invitation to explore what it means to be human in all its messy glory.

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Right. He's challenging the norms that dictated what was considered acceptable and what wasn't. He's saying all bodies are beautiful, all experiences are valid.

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And he does it all with such passion and conviction. It's impossible to read Song of Myself and not be moved by his enthusiasm for life, his love for life, and his belief in the power of the individual.

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Yes. He reminds us that life is precious and fleeting and we should make the most of it. But it's not just about like self-indulgence. He's calling us to a deeper level of awareness, a more conscious way of being.

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Okay, so not the first edition. Got it.

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He was amazing at using sensory details. He uses words to paint pictures, evoke smells, create this full body immersion in whatever scene he's describing. He wants you to feel like you're right there experiencing it firsthand.

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the places he takes us i mean one minute you're walking down a busy city street the next you're out on the prairie surrounded by buffalo it's like this whirlwind tour of america and even beyond america remember those lines my ties and ballasts leave me my elbows rest in sea gaps i skirt sierras my palms cover continents he's not bound by time or space he's storing through history across continents even into the cosmos

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He's showing us life in all its complexity, the beauty and the terror, the joy and the heartbreak. He's not trying to sugarcoat it or give us some idealized version of the world.

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I agree. He's reminding us that life is this mix of light and shadow, and they're both essential parts of the experience. That's a powerful message.

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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. You ready to explore some poetry today?

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He's this Pakistani poet who's like hugely popular in Urdu literature, but hasn't really been accessible to English readers until now.

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Absolutely. And then you add the cultural barriers. John Elia's poetry is steeped in Urdu literary tradition, which is its own way of expressing love and loss and those big ideas.

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For sure. Makes you realize translation is almost like an art of cultural diplomacy. Finding ways to bridge those gaps and evoke similar emotional responses.

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Bukowski, the guy known for his like gritty and unconventional style.

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I see it now, how their work might resonate on a similar emotional level, even though they come from such different backgrounds.

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That's a great point. So instead of a word for word, he focuses on recreating the impact, the feeling that Elie's poetry evokes. He calls it impact-oriented translation.

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OK, you've got me hooked. Let's talk about the poems themselves. What kind of themes are we going to find?

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Wait, the city as a character. Tell me more about that.

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Yeah, perspective that many city dwellers can relate to.

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Okay, so I'm getting a sense of the power and depth of his work. Is there a particular style or tone that defines his poetry, something that makes it uniquely Don Ilya?

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That rawness must have been pretty challenging to translate. I'm curious how Carter managed to capture that in English.

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So to really give our listeners a taste of Ilya's work, let's dive into some actual excerpts. You got any lines or couplets that stood out to you?

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Wow, that's heavy. That's like he's saying that true love requires a certain level of vulnerability, of letting go of control.

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Ooh, that's a gut punch. Speaks to that feeling of disillusionment, of having to compromise your aspirations, maybe even betray yourself to survive.

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So our mission today is to give you a taste of John Elia's unique voice and help you understand why his work has resonated so deeply with readers. What makes this translation so special? And by the end, you'll know if this book belongs on your shelf.

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There's a lot of darkness and despair in these excerpts. Is there any glimmer of hope or beauty in his work?

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Okay, that's lovely. It's a good reminder that even amidst the darkness, there's always room for love and beauty.

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Okay, good. Because today we're diving into something pretty special. The poetry of John Elia.

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You know, that line reminds me of something Carter says in the preface.

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He talks about how Ilya's poetry can be both heartbreaking and strangely comforting at the same time.

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Speaking of broken pieces, one poem that really struck me was Nothing But Dust.

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It paints this incredibly bleak picture of disillusionment and society decay.

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Right. And he goes on to describe this world where everything is so transient, fleeting, just a sword of dust, some lost wanderers haze, no real walls, no real doors, nothing stands, nothing stays.

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It's like he's saying that we're all just passing through, leaving no real mark.

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You're right. He criticizes religious hypocrisy, the emptiness of material wealth.

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The disillusionment of people living in a society that's lost its way. It's like he's holding up a mirror to society and saying, look what we've become.

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Another poem that really resonated with me was The City's a Graveyard.

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For sure. OK, first things first. Who is John Elia? For those of us unfamiliar, can you give us a little background?

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It takes that theme of societal decay and filters it through this really evocative image of the city as a metaphor.

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And those lines about how someone bolted the doors on screaming, even your alley pretends it ain't dreaming.

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It paints this picture of a city that's shut itself off from its own pain, its own humanity.

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And you know when you read his work. you can't help but be struck by the way he uses language.

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It's almost conversational, like he's sitting across from you, sharing his innermost thoughts and feelings.

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He uses repetition and stark imagery to drive his points home, creating this rhythmic intensity that pulls you in. Remember that line from A Habit of Hurt?

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They kept rewarding my cruelty, so I kept handing it out. Every beauty I met, I left with a bruise.

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It's like he's saying, look, we all have these shadows within us, these impulses that can lead us to do things we regret. Let's acknowledge them. Let's talk about them. Let's not pretend they don't exist.

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It's like a shared catharsis, a recognition that we're all struggling with similar demons, similar heartaches.

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Now, let's shift gears a bit and talk about the actual translation process.

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Carter mentioned something called sense to sense translation in the preface.

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It sounds like a really delicate balance. How do you stay true to the original while also making it accessible and meaningful in another language?

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From what we've seen so far, it seems like Carter has done a remarkable job with this translation.

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He's managed to capture the raw, vulnerable voice of John Elia and make it resonate with English readers.

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And the preface alone is worth the price of admission. It's like a masterclass in translation.

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Giving you a glimpse into the translator's mind, the challenges he faced and the creative choices he made.

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Jaun Elia’s Poems: An English Translation : A Window into the Mind of Urdu’s Most Iconic Poet

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wow sounds intense and the translator mason carter he's not just a translator right no right at all he's an english literature teacher and a published poet himself right which gives him a really interesting perspective on the whole process he talks about that in the preface right i was struck by how he describes the challenges of translating poetry yeah it's not just about swapping words it's like recreating an entire experience exactly he even compares it to translating humor

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Jaun Elia’s Poems: An English Translation : A Window into the Mind of Urdu’s Most Iconic Poet

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It's like rediscovering a favorite song in a different arrangement. You hear those familiar melodies and lyrics in a new light, and it deepens your appreciation for the artistry involved.

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Jaun Elia’s Poems: An English Translation : A Window into the Mind of Urdu’s Most Iconic Poet

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It's amazing to think that words written decades ago in a different language can still resonate so deeply today.

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Jaun Elia’s Poems: An English Translation : A Window into the Mind of Urdu’s Most Iconic Poet

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Yeah, he really taps into something universal, doesn't he?

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And he does it without sugarcoating anything. You know, he's brutally honest about the pain of the darkness we all experience.

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Knowing that someone else has felt those same depth of despair, those same moments of doubt and questioning. It's like he gives voice to those unspoken struggles that so many of us carry around inside.

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Jaun Elia’s Poems: An English Translation : A Window into the Mind of Urdu’s Most Iconic Poet

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It's funny, we've talked a lot about the darkness and the despair in his work.

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Jaun Elia’s Poems: An English Translation : A Window into the Mind of Urdu’s Most Iconic Poet

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But there's also this incredible beauty and tenderness that shines through even in his bleakest moments. There's a glimmer of hope, a recognition of the enduring power of love and connection.

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And I think that's ultimately what makes this book so special. It's more than just a collection of poems. It's an invitation to connect with a truly unique voice, a voice that speaks to the core of the human experience.

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So for our listeners who are intrigued by what they've heard today, where can they get their hands on this book?

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I think that's the perfect note to end on. This has been a fascinating deep dive into the world of John Elia. We hope it sparked your curiosity and encouraged you to explore his work for yourself.

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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Yeah, it's about shifting from a mindset of scarcity and competition to one of abundance and collaboration, realizing that we're all interconnected. Absolutely. And our well-being is tied to the well-being of everyone else. Beautifully put. And honestly, this inner transformation might be the most important step of all.

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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And like Murray Bookchin wrote, to conceive of a liberated society is to conceive of a society that fosters the liberatory potential of every individual.

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Don't let the enormity of the task intimidate you.

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Remember, even the longest journey starts with a single step.

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Yeah. It's a good mix.

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OK. So like when I spend hours baking a cake with my kids just for the fun of it. Yeah. I'm actually engaging in like a mini rebellion.

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I like that. A starter kit.

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That's a pretty mind blowing way to look at it.

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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So if we want to build socialism from below, it's not just about protesting or organizing. It's about reclaiming our power to do and creating these spaces where different values can flourish.

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What I find fascinating is your sources don't just talk about socialism like it's some abstract concept.

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movements like cooperation Jackson.

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They're actively building alternative systems right within like the existing framework.

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And what's really interesting about these examples is that they're not just about creating like a better economic system. Right. They're about addressing the deeper inequalities and injustices that are like baked into our current society.

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Absolutely. And your sources are really clear about that. This work often involves focusing on the needs and experiences of those who have been most marginalized by the current system.

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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They actually get down into the like the nitty gritty of how people are trying to actually build it.

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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Yes. And they argue that by centering their efforts on those who have been most impacted by injustice, they're not only creating a more equitable local economy. Right. But they're also laying the groundwork for a broader societal transformation. Yeah. So they're showing us that building socialism from below is not just about creating something new.

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It's about dismantling the old structures of oppression that hold us back.

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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Which I think is what you're after.

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One of the key ideas that comes up again and again is this concept of dual power. So it's this idea of participating in existing political systems while simultaneously building these alternative structures that embody the values of the society they're striving to create.

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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Exactly. It's a double pronged approach.

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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And your sources highlight that this requires a very specific kind of movement building. OK. One that's not just focused on winning a particular campaign or policy change. Yeah. But on developing the skills and relationships and consciousness necessary for a truly democratic and participatory society.

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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Precisely. And this is where the idea of direct democracy comes in, which seems to be a recurring theme throughout your sources.

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And what's fascinating is how this concept challenges the limitations of our current like representative democracies where power is often concentrated in the hands of, you know, a select few.

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It's about reclaiming our power to directly shape our own lives and communities.

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Absolutely. And that's where this whole building socialism from below thing comes in. OK. It's about creating change from the ground up through everyday actions and grassroots movements.

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That's a great point. And one of your sources, Murray Bookchin, he actually acknowledges both the potential and the limitations of direct democracy.

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He suggests that while the ideal of a fully participatory society might seem utopian, there are practical ways to implement elements of direct democracy, even within the constraints of existing systems.

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And Bookchin argues that these localized forms of direct democracy can serve as a training ground for developing those skills and that consciousness.

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Necessary for a more radically democratic future.

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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Precisely. And this brings us to an important question that your sources raise. Can we really build socialism from below solely by focusing on these local grassroots movements? Yeah. Or do we need to engage with these larger scale political and economic systems as well?

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That's the million dollar question. And it's something that we're going to delve into further in part two of this deep dive. We'll explore how these grassroots initiatives can actually connect and expand and how they can potentially influence larger systems of power. But for now, let's just take a moment to digest what we've learned so far.

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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You know, it's interesting how much our idea of work has been shaped by capitalism. Right. Like we're so used to thinking of it as just a way to make money. Right. But what if we could reimagine work as something more, something more fulfilling, something that benefits both us and our community?

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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Exactly. And one of the key things your sources highlight is this idea of prefigurative politics.

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It's a big question. And even socialists have different ideas about how work would function.

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In a post-capitalist world. Right. But one of your sources suggests that, you know, change doesn't have to happen all at once. OK. They point to worker cooperatives as a way to kind of bring democratic ownership into the workplace, even within the current system.

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Exactly. As these cooperatives grow and connect, they could create a whole parallel system.

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Based on cooperation and shared decision making.

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Right. Each of those shows how people are meeting their needs outside of the traditional market based on helping each other out, not just making a profit.

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And it's not just about the food itself.

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Jackson Rising Redux talks about how these gardens become spaces for learning, sharing skills, connecting people from different backgrounds.

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I have heard of this. Yes.

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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Precisely. And it's a model that could be scaled up to create a more local, resilient food system, less reliant on big industrial farms and global supply chains.

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Now time banks and LEDs.

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Those are really interesting.

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People are literally creating new currencies.

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To trade their skills and time directly. OK. Without needing traditional money.

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Exactly. And what's cool about time banks is they value all kinds of work equally.

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So an hour of child care is worth the same as an hour of legal advice.

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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Precisely. It's a system built on community and helping each other out.

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Not just on individual gain.

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That's the question, isn't it?

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While time banks might not replace money entirely.

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They do show us a different way of valuing and exchanging things, making it more equitable and sustainable.

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You've hit on a crucial point.

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There's a big difference between sharing for genuine cooperation and sharing as a way to make money within the capitalist system.

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So if we want a society that's democratic and egalitarian, we need to practice that right now within our movements.

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Exactly. It all comes down to the values behind the model. True sharing in this context is about access and distribution based on need, not profit.

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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Precisely. Imagine open source software for things like decentralized energy grids, community owned communication networks, platforms for collaborative production. The possibilities are pretty exciting.

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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And it goes beyond just economic systems. It's changing our relationship with technology, with nature, with each other.

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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Exactly. And while it might seem like a huge undertaking, your sources emphasize that it doesn't have to happen overnight.

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These small localized initiatives can grow and connect.

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Eventually creating a ripple effect that leads to larger changes.

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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Exactly. And while there's no clear roadmap.

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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The sources you've given us are like a compass pointing us towards a more just and equitable future.

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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Okay, good idea. We've been exploring how to build socialism from below, focusing on grassroots action, prefigurative politics, and creating alternatives within the existing system.

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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So the question now is how can you as an individual contribute to this?

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How can you take these concepts and apply them to your own life and community?

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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Well, the good news is you don't have to, like, wait for a revolution or become a full time activist.

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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Your sources emphasize starting small right where you are.

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Look around your community. What needs aren't being met?

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What are the things that like bug you that you wish were different?

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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Exactly. And it doesn't have to be some huge project, you know.

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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Maybe you start a community garden in your neighborhood. Organize a skill sharing workshop. Right. Or join a local time bank.

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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Absolutely. There's strength in numbers.

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And working together amplifies your impact.

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Plus, it's a lot more fun to build a new world with friends.

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Yeah, that's a great question.

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And as we discussed, this idea of prefigured of politics.

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Means engaging with existing systems while also creating these alternatives.

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So this makes me think of one of the things that John Holloway talks about the idea of doing as a form of resistance. Right. He argues that even under capitalism. Yeah. We still have this power to do this capacity to create and produce things outside of you know the market system.

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But it's about being strategic and discerning.

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Precisely. And political engagement goes beyond just elections.

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Things like advocating for community land trusts, promoting worker ownership models, supporting policies that help time banks and local exchange systems grow.

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How to Build Socialism from Below

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You know, one of the most important takeaways for me from all of this is that it's not just about changing external systems. It's about changing ourselves.

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Sujata Bhatt: A Multicultural Poet's Journey

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They're full of Indian myths, deities, landscapes. Yeah. It's this vivid reflection of her connection to her roots.

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Sujata Bhatt: A Multicultural Poet's Journey

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Yeah, she's fantastic.

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Sujata Bhatt: A Multicultural Poet's Journey

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I mean, one of the things that makes her so unique. Yeah. Is that she uses language in such a masterful way. It's not just English. Right. She also weaves in Gujarati and Hindi. Wow. So you get this incredible linguistic tapestry.

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It's not just translation, though. It's like a fusion of languages. Yeah. It's a way of capturing how complex her identity is.

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Yeah, it's a powerful theme. And I think it resonates with a lot of people because so many people have navigated different cultures and languages. So it's really about the search for belonging, you know, that feeling of being caught between worlds. And she captures it with this raw honesty and poetic beauty.

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It's such a beautiful example of how inspiration can transcend boundaries.

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Like she wrote poems about Maderson Becker, weaving in her own personal reflections with this kind of artistic admiration. Yeah. It's really about the connection between art forms.

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How one form of art can inspire another.

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I think it's that they share a certain sensibility.

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Like they both capture the essence of human emotion and experience through their different mediums. They both grapple with identity, womanhood, the search for meaning in a world that often feels very chaotic and fragmented. So it's like they're both using their art to try to make sense of the world.

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Sujata Bhatt: A Multicultural Poet's Journey

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You know, these aren't just accolades. They really represent a shift in how the world views poetry from diverse voices. So her awards show a growing appreciation for work that transcends borders, that speaks to these complex cultural identities and the universality of human experience. It's really remarkable.

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Sujata Bhatt: A Multicultural Poet's Journey

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And her work as a translator kind of furthers that.

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Because she's translated Gujarati poetry into English. So she's introducing new poets to a wider audience. And she's also building bridges between cultures through language.

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The power of language.

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That's exactly right. And that's why her work is so important. It really challenges us to expand our understanding of what poetry can be, who can be a poet, and how poetry can help us connect with the world.

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Sujata Bhatt: A Multicultural Poet's Journey

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You know, it's funny you use the word remarkable because her life does kind of defy easy categorization. Yeah. You know, she was born in India. Right. But she lived in the U.S. and Germany. And she comes from a traditional Gujarati Brahmin family with a real emphasis on oral storytelling. Oh, wow.

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You know, critics have really praised her for her ability to explore the human experience with depth and nuance. They often mention her courage in addressing these difficult themes of colonialism, cultural displacement, the search for identity. She doesn't shy away from complexity. She embraces it. And that honesty is part of what makes her work so powerful.

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Exactly. She's not just reflecting the world. She's actively engaging with it and inviting us to see things in new ways, to question the narratives we've been told.

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Well, they're so evocative. They're like these little windows into her imagination, each one giving us a glimpse of a different world, like monkey shadows. Immediately, it makes me think of mystery. of something playful, but maybe a little unsettling. Like what are those shadows? Are they literal shadows or are they something more metaphorical? Oh, interesting.

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Maybe the shadows of our past, things we try to hide. Or the secrets that we keep buried deep down inside.

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Lizards are interesting creatures. They shed their skin. They adapt to their surroundings. They're symbols of resilience and renewal. I wonder if pure lizard is delving into these themes of personal growth, of shedding old identities. And embracing new ones.

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You're definitely picking up on something there. Yeah.

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Her poetry is very rooted in the natural world. She uses imagery of trees, animals, landscapes to explore these really deep truths about what it means to be human.

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Agatora. It's a Gujarati word.

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That means a woman possessed by a ghost.

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You know, so you've got all these different elements, the global perspective, the cultural heritage, the storytelling tradition. And it kind of all weaves together in this tapestry of her work.

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So that's a powerful image. Yeah. And it makes me wonder what kind of poems are going to be in there.

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It's possible. This idea of a woman possessed by a ghost could be a metaphor for the pressures that women face or the ways in which the past kind of comes back to haunt us.

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That's the beauty of poetry. Yeah. It's not about finding answers. It's about asking the right question.

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And opening yourself up to all these layers of meaning.

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That's what makes reading her work.

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It's this active process and dialogue between the poet and the reader. It's really neat.

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Well, critics often talk about her fearlessness and tackling tough subjects. They admire her willingness to confront those shadows, both personal and societal. But it's not just about the darkness. It's about finding light within the darkness. It's about resilience. It's about the human spirit persevering.

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That's exactly right. And I think that's what makes her work so relatable.

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She's not afraid to be vulnerable.

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To show her own struggles. Right. And by doing that, she helps us feel less alone in our own struggles.

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It's really... Quite powerful.

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That's what great art does. It helps us make sense of our own lives, to connect with something larger than ourselves, and to find meaning even when everything feels chaotic.

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I think one of the things that makes her work so fascinating is the way that she blends the personal and the political, the individual and the collective. She uses her own experiences to explore these larger issues of cultural identity, displacement, and the effects of colonialism.

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And in doing that, she's giving a voice to the voiceless. She's amplifying the experiences of those who are often ignored.

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That's a great question.

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It's like she's saying, if you want to understand the world.

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Start by understanding yourself.

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Understand your own place within this larger tapestry of human experience.

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Because you can definitely hear it.

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Exactly. And that's why her work is so important. It reminds us that even in our differences, we are all connected.

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You know, visceral, evocative, lyrical. She really has a way of painting pictures with words.

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In her modern language, you can hear those ancient rhythms.

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Doesn't she create these sensory experiences that just stay with you long after you finish the poem?

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It's like she's inviting us to step inside the poem, to feel the textures, smell the scents, hear the sounds.

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It's like she's a sculptor.

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You know, chiseling away at the language.

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Until only the essence remains.

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Like she's saying, I'm going to give you the essence, the heart of it. And I trust you to do the rest.

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And cadences. Okay. So there's this sense of history.

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That's part of what makes it so enriching.

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Translation is an art in itself.

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It's not about finding the right words. Right. It's about conveying the spirit, the rhythm, the emotional weight of the original. And when you're talking about poetry, it's even more challenging because so much depends on the sound, the imagery, the metaphor.

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Of generations passing down stories that just kind of permeates her work.

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Exactly. And sometimes you have to make tough choices.

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Like maybe sacrificing a rhyme.

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For the sake of the meaning.

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Or finding a different image that gives you a similar feeling. It's a real balancing act.

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And pot is so skilled at it.

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Yeah, because she knows Gujarati and English so well.

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She can really get the nuances of each language. You know, she understands the cultural context, the shades of meaning. Yeah. All those things that can get lost in translation.

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Sujata Bhatt: A Multicultural Poet's Journey

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And her translations aren't just about bringing Gujarati poetry to English speakers.

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Her early collections are really good examples of this.

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It's also about enriching the English language.

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By bringing in these new rhythms, new metaphors, new ways of seeing the world. It's amazing how language. It is.

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I think she'll be remembered as a pioneer, a poet who broke down barriers and expanded our idea of what poetry can be. She showed us that it can be personal and political, deeply rooted in her heritage, but still universal.

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Brunism. Okay. And the Stinking Rose.

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And her legacy goes beyond her own work. She really paved the way for other poets from marginalized communities to challenge the status quo and to share their unique voices.

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Why Marxism is a False Promise!

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So how did this dry guillotine function?

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Like how did it work?

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Derrida's Critique of Logocentrism: The Deconstruction of the World

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OK, so where does deconstruction come in?

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Is it like just tearing everything down, saying nothing matters?

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Deconstruction is like realizing the editing. Yeah. Becoming aware of the editing process of our own thinking.

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Right. It literally shaped what they could see.

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Their worldview. That's language as more than just a neutral tool.

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It's got all these cultural beliefs baked in.

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Derrida would say yes. It's not just swapping words. You're trying to bridge different ways of seeing the world.

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Yeah, Derrida really shook things up in philosophy. He said that language isn't just some neutral tool we use, like actually shapes the way we see the world.

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And that challenges this idea of structuralism, which saw language as this neat system. Derrida said, nope, meaning is fluid.

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Always in play, depending on the context.

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Which reminds me of another thing Derrida messed with. The whole speech versus writing thing.

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I always thought of writing as just like recording speech.

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He says writing has its own power, its own way of shaping how we think. Think about taking notes during a lecture.

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Even if it's just scribbles, it helps you understand the ideas better than just hearing them.

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Right. Writing lets us engage with ideas on a deeper level. It's not just recording. It's actively making meaning.

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That's the question Derrida was wrestling with. The old school view is that there's one right interpretation, what the author meant. But Derrida and folks like Roland Barthes said no way. Meaning isn't set by the writer. It comes alive in the interaction.

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I like that. You got it. The text is the framework, but the reader brings their own stuff to it.

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There's evidence that points that way.

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It's about sharing and reinterpreting them. Meaning is always being made and remade.

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He does. And we're just getting started.

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Well, now that we've laid the groundwork, I think it's time to see how we can actually use these ideas.

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How can we use deconstruction in our everyday lives?

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We'll get into that in the next part of our deep dive. Welcome back. You ready for more?

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Well, you sent over an article about logocentrism.

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That's something Derrida really grappled with. He said translation is never just like a one-to-one thing. There's always interpretation, you know, like the translator is recreating it, adding a bit of their own worldview to the new text.

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One on Deirdre's critique of structuralism. And that really fascinating story about those Spanish explorers who totally misjudged the Grand Canyon.

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Derrida's Critique of Logocentrism: The Deconstruction of the World

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Exactly. And that's because languages aren't just words. They carry whole cultural histories, you know, assumptions, ways of seeing the world.

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It's a phrase that needs a lot of unpacking, but it gets at the core of Derrida's thinking. Basically, he's saying we can never completely step outside of language to access some cure reality. Our understanding is always filtered through language and the culture it comes from.

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Exactly. There's no escaping the influence of language.

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And Derrida says that's not a bad thing. It's something to be aware of. It means we need to recognize that how we interpret the world is always shaped by the language we use.

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A lot of people misunderstand Derrida that way. He wasn't saying that anything goes. It's more about being aware of how language limits us.

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Because their language just couldn't handle it.

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Yeah. We need to be aware of our own assumptions.

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And question how language is used to create power structures.

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Right. And recognizing that language plays a huge role in that.

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That speaks to the power of Derrida's work. He makes us question our assumptions.

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And recognize that there are always multiple perspectives.

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One way is to question those binary oppositions we use to understand the world. Those either categories.

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Nature culture. We tend to think in opposites.

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And Derrida argues that these binaries aren't natural or fixed. They're created and maintained by language.

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Exposing the power dynamics and showing how they can be challenged, even subverted.

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Let's go back to speech versus writing, which we talked about before. Traditionally, speech has been seen as the more authentic form.

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But Derrida flipped that on its head.

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Right. He said writing has its own power. It can be more subversive. A written text can reach more people.

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It's the idea that Western thought has always been obsessed with finding this like stable, unchanging center of meaning. Okay.

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Exactly. So by deconstructing this binary, we see the limits of assuming one form of communication is better.

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Right. And this has real implications. Think about legal stuff where written contracts matter more than oral agreements. Oh, yeah. By deconstructing this hierarchy, we can question it and push for a more balanced approach.

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That's great. And that's what Derrida was all about. He wanted us to question our assumptions.

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And recognize that there are always multiple perspectives.

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Exactly. We're bombarded with messages. Derrida gives us tools to analyze them.

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In the next part, we'll explore what all this means for how we understand ourselves and our place in the world. Stay tuned.

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That's the heart of it. Derrida's work challenges us to see language as this active force, right? Not just a tool.

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We talked about how deconstruction can help us question those binary oppositions.

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And become more critical of information.

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But I'm curious about the bigger picture. How does this affect how we see ourselves in the world?

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So it's like an endless chain of meaning.

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Like how the way we interpret history changes over time.

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Derrida said this applies not just to language, but to our identities too.

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So instead of trying to define ourselves in these rigid ways, we should be okay with the fact that we're complex and always changing. Embrace the fluidity.

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It's like we're all works in progress, always being written and rewritten.

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About language and meaning and to embrace the ambiguity.

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It's not always about finding the answer. It's about asking better questions, being open to the fact that we're always learning.

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I think the most important thing is to remember that language is powerful. It shapes how we think, how we see things, even who we are. By understanding how language works, we can become better thinkers, better communicators, more in control of our own lives.

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Even the idea that language has these fixed structures, like words have set meanings. It's like we assume there's a logic to language so we all understand each other.

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And that's just the beginning. There's so much more to explore in Derrida's work, so keep digging and see what you discover.

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Review on The 36 Rules for Life by Mason Carter

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Exactly. And that kind of balanced perspective, that ability to hold both hope and realism in our hearts at the same time, is something he sees as essential for navigating the ups and downs of life.

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Review on The 36 Rules for Life by Mason Carter

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Well, he dives right into forgiveness, which you might think, OK, yeah, forgiveness, that's important. But he goes deeper. He talks about how true forgiveness isn't about letting someone off the hook. It's about releasing yourself from the burden of anger and resentment.

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It's true. We're constantly evaluating each other, making snap judgments based on limited information.

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Review on The 36 Rules for Life by Mason Carter

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He encourages us to remember that everyone is fighting a battle we know nothing about.

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Exactly. And he takes it a step further. He says, judge a person by their standards, not by yours.

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Review on The 36 Rules for Life by Mason Carter

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Exactly. It's about recognizing that our perspectives are shaped by our own unique life experiences. And what might seem strange or wrong to us might make perfect sense within the framework of someone else's life.

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Review on The 36 Rules for Life by Mason Carter

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Beautifully said. And that reminds me of something else Carter talks about, which is surprisingly relevant to today's world, social media.

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Review on The 36 Rules for Life by Mason Carter

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Well, he's surprisingly optimistic about it. He sees it as this powerful tool for connection and empathy, even though it often gets a bad rap for promoting superficiality and division.

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Review on The 36 Rules for Life by Mason Carter

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Exactly. He actually encourages us to use social media to identify those who are struggling and to offer them support. He sees it as a way to tap into the shared human experience to remind ourselves that we're not alone in our struggles.

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Review on The 36 Rules for Life by Mason Carter

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And that brings us to one of Carter's most poignant roles, which is about how we treat our aging parents. He has this line that always gets me right in the feels. When their words echo innocence, spare them harshness, for age is a return to childhood.

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Exactly. It's about recognizing that aging can be a challenging and disorienting experience and that our loved ones need our love and support more than ever during those times.

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Beautifully said. And that, I think, speaks to the heart of what Carter is trying to do with his 36 rules for life. He's not offering a prescriptive set of do's and don'ts, but rather a collection of insights and reflections on how to live a more meaningful, compassionate and fulfilling life.

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Review on The 36 Rules for Life by Mason Carter

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Exactly. He actually says that forgiveness is ultimately a gift we give ourselves. It's about choosing to break free from those chains and step into a more empowered present.

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Review on The 36 Rules for Life by Mason Carter

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Exactly. And to remember that even though the journey can be messy and unpredictable, there's always beauty to be found, wisdom to be gleaned, and love to be shared along the way.

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Review on The 36 Rules for Life by Mason Carter

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Right. And that kind of self-reflection, that willingness to look inward is something he talks about a lot, like with courage, for example.

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It is, but he takes it a step further. He says that real courage often requires us to examine our own biases, insecurities and motivations before we judge others.

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Exactly. And that kind of humility is crucial, especially when it comes to giving and receiving criticism, which, let's be honest, most of us would rather avoid altogether.

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Review on The 36 Rules for Life by Mason Carter

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Definitely not your average author. That's for sure. I mean, where else are you going to find someone who quotes Edgar Allan Poe and libertarian socialists in the same breath?

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He's got some really solid advice for both sides. When we're giving criticism, he stresses the importance of assuming the best intentions. It's easy to jump to conclusions and assume the worst, but he encourages us to approach these conversations with empathy and a genuine desire to understand the other person's perspective.

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Absolutely. And he also emphasizes the importance of being specific, focusing on actions and words rather than resorting to personal attacks. You know, like you always do this or you never do that. He suggests we ask ourselves a really interesting question before offering critique. What was that?

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He says, what would I have thought and said had I inherited the same background, culture and upbringing as the person being critiqued?

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Review on The 36 Rules for Life by Mason Carter

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Exactly. It's a powerful reminder that our perspectives are limited and we can't possibly understand the complexities of another person's journey unless we're willing to truly listen and try to see the world through their eyes.

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Beautifully said. And that brings us back to this idea of approaching criticism with humility, which Carter believes is essential for personal growth. He actually suggests that we strive to be our own harshest critics.

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Review on The 36 Rules for Life by Mason Carter

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Exactly. When we're willing to hold ourselves accountable to acknowledge our own shortcomings, it takes the sting out of external criticism. We're less likely to crumble because we're already engaged in that process of self-reflection and growth.

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Review on The 36 Rules for Life by Mason Carter

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He's a bit of a Renaissance man, teaches English lit, has this whole thing for Gothic poetry, but then he's super passionate about social justice, equality, you know, the whole libertarian socialist thing.

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Review on The 36 Rules for Life by Mason Carter

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Exactly. And that kind of self-awareness, that willingness to both celebrate our strengths and acknowledge our weaknesses, is a cornerstone of what Carter calls true humility.

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For Carter, it's about recognizing the limits of human reason. It's about letting go of the need to be right all the time and acknowledging that we all make mistakes. We all have blind spots.

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Exactly. It's about approaching life with an open mind and a willingness to learn and grow from our interactions with others. And this ties beautifully into his thoughts on selflessness, which, surprisingly, he links to love.

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Well, he argues that true love in its purest form is the ultimate act of selflessness. It's about putting the needs and well-being of another person above your own, about recognizing that their happiness and fulfillment are just as important as your own.

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Exactly. He sees love as this expansive force that has the power to transform not only our individual lives, but also the world around us.

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Review on The 36 Rules for Life by Mason Carter

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Right. You're looking for some real guidance, something to shake things up a bit.

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Beautifully said. And that brings us to another one of Carter's key concepts, prefiguration.

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Review on The 36 Rules for Life by Mason Carter

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It's this really cool idea that societal change starts with individual transformation. In other words, we can't expect to create a more just and compassionate world if we're not actively working on becoming more just and compassionate individuals.

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Exactly. Carter believes that living in accordance with our values is the most powerful form of activism. It's about embodying the change we want to see in the world.

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He actually has some really insightful advice on that, which I think a lot of us could benefit from. He talks about this inner voice that tends to pop up when we're angry, a voice that tries to justify our rage, telling us we have every right to be upset.

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Review on The 36 Rules for Life by Mason Carter

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Right. But Carter says that the key to managing anger is to silence that voice. He argues that no matter how justified our anger might feel, unleashing it on another person is never the answer.

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Review on The 36 Rules for Life by Mason Carter

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That's what makes Carter so interesting. He's not afraid of contradictions, of those shadowy parts of human nature that we often try to ignore. He actually thinks there's a lot we can learn from confronting the darkness head on.

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Review on The 36 Rules for Life by Mason Carter

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Exactly. He emphasizes that reacting with anger only perpetuates the cycle of negativity. It's about recognizing that we always have a choice, even in the heat of the moment, to respond with compassion and understanding rather than lashing out.

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Review on The 36 Rules for Life by Mason Carter

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For sure. But Carter reminds us that responding with anger rarely, if ever, leads to a positive outcome. It often escalates the situation, creating more hurt and resentment.

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Yes. And that includes apologizing when we mess up, which Carter believes is essential for personal growth and healthy relationships.

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He's a big believer in owning up to our mistakes, even when it's uncomfortable. He sees apologizing as an act of self-awareness and accountability, a way of acknowledging that our words and actions have an impact on others, and sometimes we screw up.

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Exactly. And that kind of humility, that willingness to admit when we're wrong and make amends, is something Carter sees as crucial not only for our personal growth, but also for building stronger, more authentic relationships.

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Beautifully said. And this emphasis on authenticity, on showing up as our true selves, even with all our imperfections, is something that comes up again when Carter talks about education.

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Well, he's pretty critical of the traditional model of education, which he sees as being too focused on churning out obedient employees rather than independent thinkers.

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Review on The 36 Rules for Life by Mason Carter

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Exactly. He believes that true education should ignite a fire in the hearts and minds of students, a thirst for knowledge and a passion for exploration.

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Exactly. Carter wants to see an education system that produces lifelong learners who are engaged, informed and equipped to make a positive impact on the world.

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Like Plato and Aristotle, if I'm remembering correctly.

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It's about recognizing that knowledge isn't static. It's constantly evolving. It's about adding our own voices to the ongoing conversation.

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Exactly. He's not trying to sugarcoat anything or pretend we're all just shining beacons of light. He's acknowledging the darkness, but he's not letting it drag him down. If anything, he sees it as fuel to strive for something better.

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Which, when you think about it, is what makes this deep dive so compelling. It's about going beyond those surface level interpretations and really grappling with these complex ideas.

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Exactly. Carter argues that when we try to present a curated version of ourselves to the world, we ultimately prevent ourselves from forming deep, meaningful connections.

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Beautifully said. And this emphasis on authenticity, on embracing simplicity and vulnerability, extends to his definition of happiness as well.

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He has this amazing quote. Acquiring is relinquishing. Happiness is not found in material accumulation, but in the moment that is now and that is shared.

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Review on The 36 Rules for Life by Mason Carter

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Exactly. He believes that true happiness comes from a place of gratitude, connection, and presence. It's about letting go of the need to always be striving, achieving, accumulating, and instead finding joy in the simplicity of just being.

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Precisely. And he argues that this ability to find joy in the present moment is intimately connected to our relationships with others. Happiness, for Carter, isn't something we cultivate in isolation. It's something that flourishes in the context of loving, supportive relationships.

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Exactly. And Carter takes this idea even further, arguing that as we cultivate love and selflessness, our capacity for happiness expands beyond our immediate circle to encompass a sense of responsibility for the well-being of all beings.

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Precisely. And this brings us back to his concept of prefiguration, the idea that individual transformation is the catalyst for societal change. Carter believes that as we cultivate greater love, compassion, and understanding within ourselves, those qualities naturally radiate outward, influencing our interactions with others and ultimately shaping the world around us.

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I love that imagery. And, you know, what's really striking about Carter's work is that even though he delves into these deep philosophical concepts, he always brings it back to the practical. He offers these really tangible, actionable steps we can take to incorporate these principles into our everyday lives.

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Exactly. He's not advocating for blind optimism or denying the very real challenges we face in the world. Instead, he's encouraging us to cultivate a sense of realistic optimism, a belief that things can get better even in the midst of difficulty if we're willing to do the work.

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Not quite. It's more like he's offering these signposts, these little nudges to help us navigate the complexities of life with more intention and awareness. And he doesn't shy away from the big stuff either.

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Precisely. And he reminds us that this journey of self-improvement, this striving for a more just and compassionate world is a collective endeavor. We're not meant to do it alone.

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Which is where Carter's 36 Rules for Life come in. They're not meant to be rigid dictates, but rather gentle nudges, invitations to approach life with more intention, compassion, and awareness.

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Exactly, because sometimes the most profound truths are hidden in plain sight, just waiting for us to open our minds and hearts to receive them.

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Absolutely. And speaking of inspiration, Carter has some really interesting things to say about pessimism, which he sees as more of a strategic tool than a negative outlook.

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Well, he's not advocating for doom and gloom, but he does believe in being prepared for the worst, even while we're striving for the best.

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Exactly. He actually uses this great phrase, work for the best, but expect the worst.

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Review of Speaketh Like the Bard: A Guide to Speaking in Shakespearean English

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Okay, so are you ready to, like, unlock a linguistic time capsule or what? Because today we are diving deep, and I mean deep, into Shakespearean English.

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You guys send in those excerpts from Speaketh Like the Bard, and clearly you are all ready to start throwing around those D's and O's.

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So Shakespeare's characters, they weren't just like speaking their lines, they were carefully navigating this like complex system of social cues and power dynamics with like every single word.

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Wow, it's insane how much meaning those two tiny pronouns carried.

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Wait, hold on. Are you saying those words weren't just for, like, dramatic flair?

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So it's kind of like saying, oh, my gosh, instead of, oh, my God.

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So you could express those strong emotions without, you know, getting in trouble with the church.

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It really is amazing how much weight a single word could carry back then.

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Maybe. Who knows? But seriously, though, where do we even begin?

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It makes you realize how much language has evolved, even in the way we talk casually every day.

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Speaking of expressive language, we got to talk about Shakespeare's insults, because those are legendary.

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Like are we talking Hamlet's To Be or Not To Be?

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Or maybe Macbeth's Is This a Dagger I See Before Me? Those speeches are practically musical. Is that because of the iambic pentameter we always hear about?

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OK, so for those of us who aren't Shakespearean scholars, can you break down exactly what iambic pentameter is? Like, what is it about it that makes it so powerful?

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Oh, I see. So it's not just what Shakespeare says. It's how he says it. The rhythm itself, like add something extra.

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Wow. You're so right. It's like the rhythm is carrying some of the weight of that line, like you were saying.

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So even when they're cracking jokes, there's this rhythm underneath it all that makes it sound like more poetic or something.

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So he wasn't afraid to switch things up when he needed to.

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So if a character is like pouring their heart out, they're probably speaking in rhymes.

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It's like Shakespeare hid a secret code in his work or something. And like by cracking that code, we can like uncover these layers of meaning we wouldn't get otherwise.

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But those regular everyday conversations, just the back and forth, that's where the unrhymed verse comes in.

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So Shakespeare, he was going back and forth between these different kinds of verses to like control the mood of the scene, the pace, everything. He was like composing this symphony with his words, big melodies one minute, quiet reflection the next.

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So true. Like wherefore instead of why and pretty instead of please. I have definitely felt intimidated by some of those words. Was he just trying to show off his vocabulary?

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Oh, wow. So we're not just reading his plays. We're seeing a language being like reborn right in front of us.

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That's amazing. It's like he's giving us a front row seat to history. You know, like we can hear echoes of the past in our language and the way we speak today.

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Speaking of stories, we've talked about how Shakespeare changed the English language. But what about like Theater itself. He wasn't just writing plays. He was creating a whole new way for people to like experience stories.

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It's almost as famous as the plays themselves. What was so special about it?

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So it wasn't just the stories on stage that were breaking down barriers. It was the building itself. It was bringing people together from all walks of life.

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It's crazy. We really do owe a lot of what we love about live theater to what Shakespeare did at the Globe.

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So true. Whether you're a Shakespeare expert or you're just now starting to read his work, there's always something new to find, something else to understand.

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Oh, wow. I did not realize it was that serious. So was it like as simple as like thou for friends and you for everybody else?

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It's not even just about understanding all those these and thous. It's about... Like experiencing how musical his language is, the wit, how his stories never get old.

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Totally. But OK, before we get too carried away, we have to talk about one last thing about Shakespeare's work. Something people don't always notice with all the drama and everything. How he portrays women.

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That's for sure. So how did Shakespeare deal with that? Were his female characters just products of their time? Or was he trying to, I don't know, challenge those norms in a subtle way, maybe even a subversive way?

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I mean, you've got iconic characters like Juliet, right? She's like family. Who cares about family? I'm in love. But then you've got like way more complicated characters like Lady Macbeth. Talk about ambition. That woman was hungry for power.

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It's so interesting how Shakespeare doesn't shy away from showing just how complicated these women are. I mean, they're not just like the good girl or the bad girl. They're real people with their own wants and flaws and reasons for doing the things they do.

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I know, right? It's crazy to think these plays were written so long ago, but they're still relevant to conversations we're having today. Kind of makes you wonder, like, did Shakespeare have some secret agenda when he was creating these female characters? Or was he just reflecting the world around him, you know, a world that was starting to change?

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It's interesting that nobody can really agree on one answer. It says a lot about how powerful Shakespeare's work is, that we're still talking about this stuff today, centuries later, and we're still dealing with the same questions about gender roles and equality.

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He definitely gives us a lot to think about. So as we wrap up this deep dive, what's like the one big thing you hope people will take away from our conversation about Shakespearean English?

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It's so much more than figuring out what the and Dow mean. It's about feeling the music in the words, the jokes, how his stories are timeless.

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And hey, you might even find yourself using a Shakespearean phrase here or there in your own life.

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I think so. It's been so fun geeking out over Shakespeare with you today. Thanks for taking us on this journey with us.

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And to everyone listening, until next time, may your days be full of amazing conversations, witty banter, and hey, if you need to throw out an insult, just remember to do it with a little Shakespearean flair.

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Review of Chaos of Dementia

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It's such a sad parallel. It really makes you think about these cycles of abuse and how both Zero and Ziba are trapped by them, forced to navigate a world that seems determined to crush them.

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That's such a good observation. You know, it really shows how trauma changes us, how we present ourselves to the world. Ziba's appearance, it's like a shield. Her way of showing her, her struggles, her pain.

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It's a turning point for Zero. Seeing Ziba, it's like he sees some hope, a little sign that compassion can exist even in a place like that.

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I think so.

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It really challenges how we think about connection. It's not always about similar interests or backgrounds, but seeing someone's humanity, their resilience, sharing that. It makes you realize that those deep connections, those really meaningful connections, often come from going through tough stuff together. And Zero and Ziba, well, they see each other.

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They see past the hardship to the strength inside.

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You can tell Zack is drawn to Ziba's, her strength, how she hides it behind that tough exterior. It's intriguing from the start, like two different worlds colliding.

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It's a breath of fresh air for both of them, I think. Zero represents that harsh reality of Ziba's everyday life and then Zack. He represents this whole other world, something beyond Karachi.

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Exactly. Zach, as good as his intentions are, he can't see how much Ziba's past weighs on her, the secrets that she keeps. And it's like a ticking time bomb in their relationship.

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Yeah. And what I find really fascinating about these stories, about Zero and Ziva's stories, are how they kind of, they weave together in a way that shows how tragedy really impacts people and how our choices affect one another.

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It's such a classic story, a clash of cultures, expectations. Zach's caught between loving Ziba and all that pressure, that societal pressure to be with a certain kind of person.

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And his reaction, it just shows how destructive assumptions can be. Zack lets fear and those societal biases get in the way, and he betrays the one person, the one person he claims to love.

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And Zack, oh man, he's full of guilt and regret. He goes back to England a changed man.

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It's such a powerful image of loneliness.

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Zack's like a ghost haunting his own life.

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Faye represents a new start for Zach, a chance to escape his past. She pushes him to face his demons, to forgive himself, and to let himself love again.

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But the thing is, Zach can't outrun his past. Ziba's memory, it still haunts him. He's wrestling with the guilt, the regret, and wondering what if, what if he'd made different choices?

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Yeah, it's like he's trying to escape himself.

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But some things, well, you just can't outrun them.

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And that's where their stories, they collide in this really tragic and thought-provoking way.

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And his desperation, it leads him to do something, something that'll seal his fate. He tries to steal some food just to survive.

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But it speaks volumes about the system, the inequality he faces every single day.

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It's all about power, isn't it? These officers, they represent authority and they see Zero as a criminal, a threat, not a kid who's just hungry.

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It makes you think about how fragile life is, especially for those who society ignores. Zero's death, it's fictional, sure, but it shows us the harsh reality for so many kids in Karachi.

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And inside, a picture of Zach and Ziba, a reminder of their connection sent from a world away. Their lives are connected, even across continents. It's, well, it's eerie.

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Zach's entire world falls apart, and he has to face the consequences of walking away from Ziba.

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It's devastating. He's hit with grief, loss, betrayal, all at once. It's like the universe is forcing him to confront his pain, his past.

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It speaks to the power of stories, don't you think? Zero and Ziba's lives, even though they're fictional, they give us a glimpse into human nature, the choices we make, the ripple effects, and the connections that endure even in the face of tragedy.

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Oh, my God.

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It's a good reminder that we're all connected in ways we may never fully understand. And our choices, no matter how small, well, they have a way of rippling outward, affecting more than just ourselves.

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It's easy to get caught up in those questions, to think about the roads not taken. But maybe, just maybe, the real takeaway here is the resilience of the human spirit.

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And it makes you wonder about the lasting effects of that kind of trauma on a kid, especially because he ends up with his uncle, Zen, who just seems to see every tragedy as well as an opportunity.

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And that, to me, is truly remarkable. It tells us that even when surrounded by darkness, even when it seems like there's nothing left, the human spirit can still find a way to shine through.

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It's chilling to think about how people can be so cold.

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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry

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Exactly. Inequality, oppression, the things people often don't want to face head on.

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The sleep thorns? What is he? Shakespeare.

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Very evocative. Those are classic elements for sure.

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Exactly. And all of it points to that Gothic idea of a world out of balance, a world where things just aren't right.

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Wow, yeah. He's not shying away from anything.

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Okay, you've got my attention. Lay it on me.

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He's definitely using those Gothic tropes to make a point. Those decaying roses. That could be a metaphor. Maybe a dying social system. The demons. The human cost of oppression.

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OK, let's see where Carter takes us.

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Well, you know, we've got to follow the threads that Carter's weaving together. His poems, they're all about these unexpected connections.

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Well, you might find a line about lost love right next to a verse about, I don't know, revolution. It's like he's saying, forget what you think poetry is supposed to be.

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All right, take the poem Immortal Legacy of Anathema. Even the title is giving you a lot to think about.

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Basically, it's something that's completely rejected, cast out, considered cursed. And in the poem, you see this play out. You've got this condemned individual facing a fiery death, surrounded by a hostile mob. It's intense. It's dark. It's pure Gothic.

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You're picking up on it. Carter connects this person's suffering to something bigger.

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Exactly. The anathema, he becomes a symbol for anyone who challenges the system, anyone seen as a threat. It's a powerful image.

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There is. It's like Carter's saying that even in the darkest times, love can endure. It's a powerful message.

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You absolutely did. Those lines about wage slaves being burned alive. That's Carter tackling capitalism head on the very term wage slave. It's a powerful statement about how workers are treated.

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That's an interesting observation. There are definitely hints of a deeper struggle. Take the tormented, for example. Lines like razor blades rip in his veins, bleak night visions fading away, and nights all cuts renewed brought euphoric memory, cursed ecstasy. I mean, this isn't just social commentary. It's deeply personal.

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Exactly. And that connection between the personal and the political, it's a recurring theme in Carter's work.

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It's a question worth pondering, isn't it? And speaking of things that bind us, but in a, let's say, more positive way.

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And why not? Love, in all its messy glory, it's part of what makes us human.

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It is, yeah. Changing your name, especially, I mean, when you're taking on a pen name like that, it often hints at like a need for reinvention.

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Right. It's a fascinating contrast. Like, take The Dark Lullaby, for instance. The title alone, it's pure Gothic romance.

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And let's not forget about Thy Fragrance. It's like a sensory explosion with those black roses that line about the aroma mesmerizing, bewitching, and hypnotizing. It just pulls you in.

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It's almost as if he's saying that love, maybe even art itself, can heal us.

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It is. And it seems like this idea of finding something good, something pure, even in the darkest of places, it's a thread that runs through a lot of his work.

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Yeah, like a separation between the person's, you know, actual life and the persona they want in their art.

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So we've talked about love, loss, and Carter's way of weaving social commentary into this gothic tapestry he's created. But it feels like he wants to take it a step further. It's not just about noticing these problems. It's like he's urging us to actually do something.

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What do you mean?

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It's intense. That imagery of being trapped, drained. It's powerful stuff.

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You mean like in the liberty? Because there's a lot of pain in that one, but then there's this image of writing dark hymns in the name of freedom. It's kind of inspiring, actually. It is. It speaks to the power of art as a form of resistance. Even when things feel impossible, there's power in speaking your truth, in refusing to be silenced.

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Right. Rebel's Lullaby, for instance. It's about as far from a soothing bedtime rhyme as you can get.

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Could be a way for Syed to explore different sides of himself, maybe reach a different audience too.

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Lines like the red mob rally against the crown and to organize and fight is the only resolution. I mean, he's not leaving much room for interpretation there.

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You know, it's an interesting question, right? Is he preaching to the choir or does he truly believe his words can spark a revolution?

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And others, they might be completely thrown by it. It might challenge their worldview for the first time.

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I like that. Let's leave it there.

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He's a fascinating figure, that's for sure. And if any of you out there have got another topic you'd like us to unpack, you know where to find us.

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Definitely adds another dimension to things.

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It suggests that this poetry isn't just, you know, spooky aesthetics for the sake of it. It's deeper.

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It's possible societal structures, maybe the impact on individuals, things like that.

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What's up, everybody? Welcome back. My guest today is Rich Deviney. 20 plus years as a Navy SEAL officer, 13 overseas deployments, 11 of those being between Afghanistan and Iraq, worked his way up through the rank infrastructure, commanding officer of one of the assault squadrons over at Development Group for a time. He talks about all of this, and we talk a little bit about his career as well.

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Potentially involved in gain of function research, not a big deal, hypothetically. Hypothetically.

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Of course, yeah. I mean, we're just throwing stuff against the wall to see what sticks.

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This is when you hoard toilet paper.

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None of that can benefit you, the listener. But what can is if you go over to www.blackriflecoffee.com. Let's head over there right now. So they're still showing up on their top banner, Operation Neptune Spear. I covered this in the last ad read. That was the official operation name for... The military operation that killed Osama bin Laden.

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Has Huberman studied the dopamine level or even the endocrine system of people going through Hell Week, though?

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Because I think this physiological state that you are in in that week And, you know, your shit is not wired properly.

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That's actually what it is, surf conditioning.

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Well, we used to be, when the instructors would beat us, that got shifted, that was remediation. Yeah, surf conditioning.

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I would like to note, That no aspect of it changed other than the name.

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So thank you for rounding the edges on that, English police.

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Especially in the winter.

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We had a February hell week. I know.

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It was, there was a cacophony of just an orchestra at the bell.

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I didn't even know it was Friday by the time it was Friday. Exactly.

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There's a lot of the word operation that I just used there. Moving on. I mean, but also, who doesn't like an owl with a set of binos on there? Rounds. I tell you what. We sell rounds in the coffee shop, and I am shocked by how many people buy these things.

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High altitude, high opening.

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Does his last name start with an R?

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It's not how I prefer to enjoy coffee, but the feedback I'm getting that rounds are also known as K-cups, they're incredibly convenient, and the recipes keep getting better, meaning how they're putting it together, and the taste of the cup of coffee is basically like right out of a coffee shop. So you can shop those.

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I found with the division one athletes too, or the people, I can take it a little broader than that. I will just say somebody who had a great amount of success in a singular activity. Yeah. That was, in addition to what you're saying, they weren't used to struggling and failing. Yes. They were used to being at the top of their heap in their specialty and being rewarded for that.

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So you'd get these amazing swimmers and the O course is just ha ha. Right. They can't do the dirty name. That's right. Or the fucking rope swing. Yeah. Run and catch the rope. Run at the rope. Grab it lower. Feet on log. And they would fall four times. I'm sitting there like, didn't you get a full ride scholarship for an athletic endeavor of some kind?

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And frustration.

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What you described is a very intelligent way I agree with everything you said, and my own thoughts on it align. I just have a much more rudimentary way of thinking about it because I don't understand neuroscience. Yeah, I always tell people macro goal, micro focus. Yeah. And what was interesting, did you ever go back to BUDS as an instructor?

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What a fascinating, fascinating laboratory for failure. Yeah. Because I don't know your experience. When our class started with 180, I don't think I ever saw or talked to a dude who quit. Because if you were running to lunch and talking to Bob, and you're running back, and Bob's gone, and you're just like, whatever. And they moved out of the barracks.

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And you're moving on, and their life takes a different trajectory. As an instructor, you get to spend time with those students. So you talk to them. And there's a variety of ways that they describe it. Sometimes it's really sad, actually. There'll be a catastrophic family incident, like a death.

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And it's like, you know what, man? come back whenever. And actually, you're doing the right thing. If you hadn't have done this, if the instructor staff found out about it, we actually might have petitioned to have you administratively removed so you can handle that. Other than that, though, when people made the decision to quit, my words, not necessarily theirs.

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And I'm combining a lot of feedback over a lot of students who were, they were pretty emotionally low and they, and I was always just cool. I would just talk with them about it. And at this point I had, I wasn't a threat to them in my blue and gold t-shirt anymore.

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And I just said, well, what was it like? And I would, at first I'd ask him, you know.

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Genuine curiosity. And I would ask him, you know, kind of walk me through your, your headspace. When you showed up here, were you convinced that you were going to graduate? All of them say yes. Yeah. You know, is this something that was along the lines of a singular focus in your life before you got here? They all say yes.

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If I would have asked you on day one, if there was anything I could have done as an instructor to make you quit, what do you think you would have said? Like, no way I'm going to be there on graduation. And so they're sitting there and I talked to them. So what was it? And it was so many different versions of the same thing.

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I got to a place where I was either cold or tired or in pain or frustrated and I didn't think I could do it for as long as what was gonna be required of me. So I, not that I was there doing a socioeconomic experiment, I 100% took that information and weaponized it because I realized it really is about You describe it in terms of moving your horizon. I describe it in the lens of your optic of time.

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As a student, your optic needs to be so myopic and narrow. And so my goal as an instructor, all I would try to do is get you to think big. Think big, yeah. How far, where are you at? Where do you want to be? Let's just focus on the space. Can you be this cold for another 162 more days? It was more effective than every tool that the instructors have access to.

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You want to make people, I mean, let's be honest, it's enhanced by the other tools as well too. You catch people in a little suppressed mindset, a little hypothermic, a little cold. They've been up longer than they've ever been up. And you start talking to them about, You know, on Tuesday on Hell Week, there's nothing saying you can't say it's Monday morning. Right.

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Yeah. I've had students say, we always knew what time it was because we'd look at your guys' watches. I'm like, did you ever consider I said it wrong? Because I was a student once too, you dumbass. Although, good job trying to look at the watch. But we knew you were going to because we were a student too. So we'd all get together and be like, I set your watch back a day.

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Or this is the time it's going to be. Right, right. Yeah. It was all time though. It was a matter of becoming... overwhelmed yes so this begs a question because i've thought about this too the military has spent so much money on that particular pipeline

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What do you think would be the change in outcome, if any, if they made a concentrated effort to teach people that concept and have them practice it before? Because like you said, I was exposed to it very young when I was working for my dad on a construction site. I remember it. I was a hod carrier, so I carried bricks and made mortar. I was 11. I might have weighed 90 pounds.

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The last thing I'll leave you with is this. The cleared hot blend of coffee is coming back. Now, you're not going to be able to get that on this particular website, and I'll talk about that later. But it's one of the cool things I get to do collaborating with this brand. It's founded by amazing people. They stand for what I believe to be are the core tenets of this country.

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And I remember a specific job site. There was like 20 pallets of McNear Common red bricks. And for people not familiar with pallets of bricks, they come in 500s. And I wasn't strong enough to carry two tongs. So I could carry six at a time. Where he wanted them was not near where they were. Of course. Yeah. And I don't know why I was the only employee tasked with said moving of these red bricks.

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Yeah. but that's what I was given. You wanna talk about being just hit with a tsunami of being overwhelmed. And I don't remember if it was my dad who said something to me where I figured it out on my own, but I just hit play on a jukebox because that's what we had. Massive D cell batteries, probably a CD might've even been FM.

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And I just did six at a time. I think it took me like a week, but six at a time. And I wouldn't think about anything outside of that journey. And you can extrapolate that. All the way forward. And I do agree that I think most people that show up at Bud's have had some exposure to that.

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But then why do they quit?

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Uh, okay. The most important evolution in second phase.

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I mean, the crucible of hell week is, you know, that's kind of where you might see the light at the end of the tunnel. I know most people think pool comp is, I mean, when it is statistically your highest likelihood, the most important evolution, the tread. What is a tread? Your hands out of the water for five minutes.

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Is it going to be that or pool comp?

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Do they share it? Or when they are sharing those experiences, Is there an emotion that sometimes comes with that? Because oftentimes regret is almost always paired.

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Do you know why they changed it to IDOR instead of I quit? Because the student along the way before the bell and the paperwork decided to say, no, I said I didn't quit. Yeah. Really? To which the instructor said, feel free to rejoin the class. He was back at the bell at about 45 minutes.

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Interesting. But a doctrinal change. Yeah. It's I-D-O-R now. You can't say I quit. So there is absolutely no answer.

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I administered the test. I already know where you're going with this. I was trying to think. In my head, I was thinking pool comp, but that seemed almost a little bit too obvious. I've actually seen people quit post-Hell Week on the tread, never in pool comp, though.

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Yeah. I mean, I can talk about it as somebody who administered it for 18 months. It's interesting. You were already describing it in the manner. So I ended up giving, I was the instructor that would give the brief for a pool comp because you actually do want to see the students succeed.

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And if they are going to fail, you don't want them to fail because they don't understand what it is they're being tested on. That's right. So pool comp is usually Thursday, Friday, where it was when I was an instructor. And it is the culmination of many events. I mean, you really, first you do an intro to open circuit. And open circuit, when you exhale, bubbles come out.

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Closed circuit for the audience. When you exhale, it gets a LAR 5 dragger. It gets pushed through a chemical scrubber. So does orb soft and alignment. There's no bubbles. So closed circuit.

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And there are some people who haven't.

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And I'll add at the tail end of this story, after they graduate pool comp, I would give another brief about how they don't know shit about diving. And they should never go rent scuba gear and do anything that we just did.

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Because I would tell them the test is actually not about diving. It's about your ability to follow procedures regardless of what is going on. Yes.

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Well, I'll get to the test because I want to explain. I don't want people to think that we're just like, hey, get in there. It's actually... The misconceptions about the training pipeline or the career are unbelievable. Can't believe the things you guys do. I'm like, well, let me tell you the month of shit we did leading up to what you saw on Instagram.

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Yeah. So literally you get in there and it's first, it's an intro and then you do a day ditch and dawn. You're by yourself. You take your gear off in procedure, put it back on a procedure. I think they give you, I don't know, a certain amount of time, 10 minutes. It's not hard. If you do that, you black out your mask. You do a night ditch and dawn. Then you do a day gear exchange.

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One set of gear, two divers, you're passing back and forth the air. So you're monitoring and managing your air exchange. One person takes the gear off again in procedure and they have to put it, pass it across. They both get a weight belt. That's the only thing that the other diver has on him is a weight belt so they can stay down. Pass the gear across, check your gear, give the symbol.

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come down and you're good to go. Same with night gear exchange, which is, let me tell you what is hilarious as an instructor. When the night gear exchange students, you need to be holding onto your partner. Sometimes just the contact with the partner It breaks a little bit. Maybe the instructors would come and fin as hard as they could over the top to separate the students even more.

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But when they both realize they no longer can find each other and one of them has the tank. Let me just say the panic is far less with the person who has the tank.

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Because the other person, oh my God, you want to talk about frantic, like looking in the dark and you could hear other instructors in the water just laughing. And eventually, you know, we get them up. Day gear exchange, night gear exchange. Then it goes back to being individual. You do like an intro to kind of the problems you're going to encounter in pool comp.

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And then the final day is pool comp. And it's 20 minutes and it starts, you start with everything. Actually fins, the only time you're really wearing fins that week. Everything gets ripped off and the instructors start introducing both solvable and non-solvable problems into your equipment. And there's really... Only three ways it can go. You can pass.

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Well, I remember being issued a publisher.

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There can be a gear malfunction, which you're going to restart the test. Or you could fail. Or you fail. Yeah, or you fail.

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And you don't describe it like that.

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So the end of the test will, I'm not giving anything away at this point.

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No, actually, because this is briefed. And so if the students are going to get this far in training, they're going to hear it. There will be a knot that you're not going to be able to solve. You have to put in the requisite amount of effort, going through the appropriate procedure.

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And every problem that you encounter in pool comp as the person giving the brief, you have to ask yourself, and you tell this to the students, is the regulator in your mouth or is it out of your mouth? Because your procedure starts with that question. Most people fail procedurally. Some people do fail from freaking out, but that's usually... preceded by fucking up on a procedure.

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And you can see them. They just like start shaking. They get the Marvel superhero stance on the bottom and they're like, ah, they try to get out of the pool. And you're doing everything you can to drive them back down. They think that you're trying to kill them.

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But it's in your mouth or out of your mouth for the regulator. And so that means you either trace it back. I mean, I still can remember it. You go back to the manifold, you're checking your air on and off. It is briefed for hours. They have balsa wood tanks that they can practice on. And 60, 70% of people fail the first day.

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And then they recycle and you get two more chances, at least when I went through or was an instructor, two chances Thursday, two chances Friday. Myself as a student, I failed my first two, didn't sleep well. On Thursday night, passed it on the third attempt, which is pretty common. By the fourth attempt, the nerves are there.

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And there's, I mean, honestly, you can be a total dick on that test as an instructor because- you're watching the student and you have a choice. All the bubbles come out and you rip it out of their mouth. They're like, I just hit you on an exhale. I would always go down and I would tap their mouthpiece and I would let them get a full breath and I would actually let them spit it out.

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Sometimes they wouldn't recognize or they would bite down harder. That had a different result.

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I gave the same test every single time.

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I didn't pass that many people, but if you performed, you passed. If you didn't, you didn't. why the test is hard enough, the problems, it's not like you can manipulate those rigs rapidly. So they're already holding their breath anyway, give the dude a little bit, give him a breath of air.

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So I would tap on them, I would watch them take, and you'd see them, because you're right there on top of them, it's a one to one ratio. They'd spit it out, and boom, I didn't tell. And that never made the difference. They either knew the procedure or they didn't.

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His is barely fiction. If you know what you're reading, you're sitting there, that might be lost on the average reader. It's cool to read from our background because you can see a little bit past the curtain.

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But I tell you what, this conversation, he's an author. Let me add that, by the way, because actually we talked about, I would say, the content of his books more than anything. Two books, Masters of Uncertainty and then The Attributes. We had a fascinating conversation about attributes and skills, which ones determine outcome, why people quit in Bud, how to effectively

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That's why I briefed him at the end of that week. Please, for the love of God, don't go out in red scuba gear. That's right.

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You know nothing about scuba diving.

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What was the malfunction you had?

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Well, the military chutes are so big. I mean, you're smaller than I am.

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Was this a big military canopy?

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I mean, let's be careful using words like hard spin.

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I feel like you were rotating once per two minutes.

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You want to talk about a hard spin? I have one of my toggles. So the smallest canopy I've ever jumped is an 84 square foot. Jeez. Fully like sail material, semi-elliptical. Yeah. I had a toggle come loose on that one. You are above the top of the canopy on your back, just like, whee, ka-ting.

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I had had enough malfunctions at that point where I actually think I was laughing when that happened. It was so violent and rapid. I was like, oh, just spin out of it. No. No, no. Yeah. I'm looking up as I'm just being corkscrewed through.

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I've gotten to the point with jumping. If I instantly don't like what I look at above me.

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Do you self-publish or who have you gone with for the two books?

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I tell people it's not safe, just like base jumping, but you can do it as safely as possible.

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I don't consider it to be insane either. I am the most normal person that I know. I don't, you know, I tell my wife this every day. When she gives me my daily, what in the fuck is wrong with you?

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I asked her last night, like, can we get a pet duck?

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Because I saw one on Instagram and it looked pretty dope. And she looked at me like, what? What's wrong with you? Where can we keep them? Like we have a bathtub.

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I think the most important skill and it took me. What year did you get out?

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I got out in 2013, last day of June in 2013. It's interesting now, the memories of it are becoming hazy.

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And I'm glad. I just don't want it to be all that I ever was or all that I ever did. So I actually appreciate that I'm forgetting a lot of this stuff.

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Yeah. But the most important skill that I took out of that, and I didn't realize it until much later, or at least I wasn't able to codify it or speak about it in any terms that made sense, was that Optic on time, keeping your world small. Yes, yes.

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The key to that is don't think back.

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What you just said brings up an interesting point though, because for as capable as the community of people that we came from, the statistical suicide rate is through the roof. Now there is some TBI, post-traumatic stress, CTE aspect of that. But what you just said, the ability to basically put your emotions to the side and work through problems, I'm starting to believe

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that there is an additional step there that is often left out. Putting the emotions to the side doesn't mean the emotions aren't still with you somewhere.

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You have to take the time. And everybody's different. Like you have a smaller coffee cup. I have a larger cup of water. We're all a vessel of some kind. Yeah. I think a lot of the guys have, you know, skydiving for me, maybe that was the way that I actually let some of the steam off.

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I was, you know, enjoyable. And quite frankly, I tried, you know, alcohol that didn't work too well with many guys. It's like recreationally wasn't enough. Let's do this professionally. Drinking didn't work. Whatever it may be. Some people it was exercise. There's some extreme behaviors in the teams.

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And I think some of those extreme behaviors might've been a cloaked way or meaning unintentional way that they were dealing with stress relief.

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Because there's no reason that a community of people that are capable of doing the things that you're talking about should have a higher than statistical average suicide rate. There's something there about being able to not engage in the emotional aspect of those situations. I think people make the mistake of thinking that there's no long-term residual from that. And I think they hang on.

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They need to get their money back first.

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They're not in the business of doing things for free.

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An argument could be made that we shouldn't have been exposed to that level of adrenaline in the first place. It is such an abnormal expression of an occupation.

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It sucks, but it was also the most awesome thing I've ever done. That's the problem.

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What's your writing process like? Do you have a fully formed idea? Do you lay out a framework?

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I think it's something that needs to be reinforced by the community while you're in.

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I think it would, people would be better served if they were constantly reminded that this is what you do. This isn't who you are.

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You know, it's, uh, it's interesting. The phases of your life. I got the, uh, you know, the very classic point, the bone frog tattoo when I was before I had my bird yet.

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I was in STT.

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I'm not sure. Statute of limitations has expired on this. And I had it on me forever. And for the last year, I've been working on my sleeve. Underneath this is where the bone frogs used to be because I didn't want to see it every day. And people have said, well, how could you cover that? I'm like, first off, dipshit. I've earned the right to get it again if I want to.

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Maybe I'll get it on my forehead next time so we can all see it. It was a reminder of what I did. And it will bump up against your ego and try to make you think that it's who you are. And I just, I'm not, you know... I am not perfect in that respect of always not thinking about it in that way. But you catch yourself, man, let's just, let's move on.

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Let's not forget the potential substance abuse.

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I remember my first week at SEAL Team 5 when the XO was saying – you know, if you guys want to get kicked out of here, go ahead and get a DUI or an alcohol-related incident. In the next breath, you'd be like, hey, kegger it new on the grinder. New guys, get the keg, and you better be the last people to be here. I'm like, I drove to work, dude.

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Or nothing's better than the master chief coming down to you for drinking and you know he's got three deweys and six ex-wives. Get fucked, dude. That's right, that's right. You're trying to come down on me?

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It made me who I was. God, the absolute atrocious failures and just lack of judgment. Yeah.

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Is he no longer teaching?

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And I want to be clear, as an instructor who augmented Hell Week, we would take our time and set up the table so they could see the steam coming out of it. Well, here's what happened to me. Because you need them to hear it, but also I want you to see it. That's right, yeah.

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I can give you a great example. So Team 5, pre-9-11, we're up at Kodiak, Alaska, doing cold weather training. And of course, what better to do in Kodiak than an OTH?

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Which is an over-the-horizon Zodiac. I mean, literally, like, let's just drive out of the ocean until you can't see the land.

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Then we'll turn around. Come back in. We'll launch swimmer scouts onto the beach. Lovely. And then everybody will swim across. We'll do an OTB. So if you can do an OTH, you might as well do an OTB, which is an over to the beach. We had gone up. We were messing with our AOIC.

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We had found a mannequin and we buried an ax in its head because we were going to basically pretend that we found a dead body. Everybody was in on it except for him.

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We had it already pre-staged. First off, I don't know how the hell we found a mannequin, where we got the axe. Creativity, that's right. Whose idea it was to stuff it where we knew we were going to. I think we actually talked to the cadre. We're like, hey. We'd like to do this. Can we get the grid on the OTB? Because we want to make sure.

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And they were also there watching. The only person that didn't know is the AOIC.

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I think we were just testing him. We needed to determine said demeanor. Yeah, yeah, sure. So the water in Kodiak is cold. I was one of the swimmer scouts, so I went up there in classic red light flashlight. Everybody comes in. You're freezing ass cold. The seals aren't great on dry suits. Some people take pisses, forget to zip them back up. That's a journey of discovery in and of itself.

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You're freezing your ass off. You're stripping out of this stuff, getting ready to move. And I forget how we triggered it, but essentially someone's like, oh, shit. sir, get over here and check this out. He lost his shit. Oh my God, that's so good. And so every person, he's like trying to get the, what the fuck did we do? At first he was nerded out. He didn't want to get close to him.

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He's like, I think we found a dead body. And the worst it got, I am in fucking tears. And this is the beginning of like a three-day OTB.

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It was some of our best work. I can't take responsibility for all of it.

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Dude. Yeah. I mean, you're freezing your ass off. It was the beginning. Some people were legitimately in wet stuff because either their dry bag failed in their rucksack. So they're getting out of a freezing suit into basically frozen camis. We're going to be going and patrolling for three days to nowhere. We probably had rubber weapons, to be honest, just to keep the salt water off them.

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And that's how we started it. Fuck, that was 20 plus years ago. And I still remember. I mean, I was combat ineffective for 20 minutes. Just fucking, come on. Dying, dying, yeah. He was so pissed.

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I can see that, yeah, they're competitive products.

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It's like a nickname. Yeah. If you see, if you have a pizza size button on your chest. Yes. And they laugh at it. You're like, okay, that's not right. If you see him like wince a little bit or you can tell her like that is your name for the day.

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The number of times that my wife has made that comment, this is putting pieces together for me.

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Going back to Bud's, I'm curious your thoughts, because I do agree about this shifting horizons or time or the optic. What do you think it would change if they made a concerted effort to teach those students that?

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How do you think he came up with the idea? Well, so it had to go from a time where nobody had done it until.

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This was back in Fort Pierce, right? In Florida.

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Don't forget the axle grease.

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That is unacceptable.

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I find it deeply disrespectful that only the officer had the pistol. Because in my experience, the enlisted guys would probably be a little bit better on the range.

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Yeah, and we should describe the difference because people ask this a lot. You know, BUDS, what we're talking about, the six-month initial large end of the filter, it is a crucible. I mean, I remember third phase. It's basically the most rudimentary.

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Like battle drill one alpha type stuff from a running core manual. Under an immense amount of scrutiny, you might huck a grenade. They're probably going to tear gas you on one of the ranges. You know, it's very basic stuff. you learn how to be a seal afterwards.

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I mean, I don't, I'm not intimately familiar with the pipeline afterwards now, but they do all the jump training in house, cold weather, all the finishing stuff. And I would say even, so that's probably a two year process to get to a team.

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I'm going to say three to five years to truly get up to speed to be, it's not that you're not an asset when you're first there, but you're ready to mentor somebody else.

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But in that pipeline, the first pipeline, it's about tolerance of physical pain.

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Yes, there are standards of the run, swim, obstacle course, hell week, pool comp, the tread. There's like the beehive, the 50-meter underwater swim, whatever stuff we did out of San Clemente that was timed. But it is – if you look back, those are – you would have to attempt to trip over those standards.

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Correct. Whereas- Selection for the command on the East Coast, I would describe it as they are testing your ability to be a SEAL. They are testing you at the core competencies of shoot, move, and communicate, which are not even exposed to you until after BUDS to begin with. Yeah.

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And I try to explain to people this. They look at the number six. They're like, oh, my God. I'm like, listen. Everybody there came from the conventional SEAL teams. And I was actually speaking at a hospital recently. I was talking with all the doctors. And I asked them, what's your specialist? And they said, a urologist. To which I said, that means pee, right? Like we're talking about.

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And she was like, yes, close enough. And I said, OK. are you good at your job? She's like, yeah, I think I am. I said, okay, but what if I told you, I need you to brush up on your infectious disease and you're going to be a brain surgeon as well. And also you need to be a pediatrician and cancer specialist and skin related stuff, all these things. What would happen to your ability

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to be proficient across all of those. And she answered the way that everybody does. It would decrease. You'd be at a, honestly, with that much stuff, probably 20.

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And I said, okay, now what if you only had to be, was a urologist and I gave you a 15 to one support ratio of people standing by to help you and also an unlimited budget. Yeah. How good could you be at your job? She said, that would be amazing. Can we pitch that to our administrative staff? I'm like, that's going to be on you. That's right. Yeah.

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To do that, but that's the difference between those commands.

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You strip away all the other bullshit. You know, the find, fix, finish, exploit, analyze. They really are good at finish.

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How would you describe the difference between those two, a skill versus an attribute?

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Like a stereo equalizer. They're set to different things.

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Could be titled the first chapter.

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attack your goals and be successful where other people are generally not. It was an awesome conversation. I love conversations like this with people from previous background. And it's funny, the outside listener or people outside of the SEAL community often think that we all know each other because it is relatively small, but you really only know the people that work in the building with you.

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But also come to training, know how to swim.

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So don't confuse what we're talking about is the pathway towards becoming.

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Let's be honest, how many times did you watch the movie Navy Seals?

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No, it was hard to find information.

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Let's speak for yourself here, all right?

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Food for thought. How many people listening to this would feel comfortable going into your random coffee shop, opening up your laptop, logging into everything, realizing you need to go to the bathroom, and instead of closing down your laptop or taking it with you, just going to the bathroom? Now, most of the time, you're going to be okay.

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If it did, the teams might look a little different.

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And so, um, I tell people if they would have let us bet on students when I've been back as an instructor, the entire staff would be broke because you snap judge people like the classic book by cover. And I mean, more often than not, the scrawny dude who you think has no chance, who never even talks.

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And you can always come back later if you're not ready for it.

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Specifically for the SEAL community, what would you say is the most impactful attribute? Give me like top three, so you don't have to necessarily... Okay, yeah. Top three. Top three, not in any particular order.

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You might not even recognize he's in the class. It's just humming at 80%, crushing D1 athletes.

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Yeah, I'm almost convinced he's an autonomous robot. I also believe his endocrine system doesn't exist anymore. Well, so in Free Solo, if you watch that documentary. I watched that documentary after knowing he was still alive and my fucking palms were still sweating.

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So he said he wasn't even scared on that climb. I know. I don't know.

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What does he need to do?

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Does he need to hold on to the outside of a SpaceX rocket?

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I know guys I worked with that I believe could crush most modern day standup comedians.

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And they were doing five minute sets on target. Oh, my God.

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I appreciate that.

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The other answer is you go to the fucking gym.

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Yeah, and there's an interesting statistic as well. The people who return for their second time through training have a higher probability of graduation than people who are there on their first attempt.

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And I think that's because, one, if you join the Navy to be a SEAL, and nothing but absolute respect to fleet sailors and what they do, if you join to be a SEAL, that's not what you wanted to do, but you ended up doing that for a period of time.

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So they have... they have an additional level of experience or something that they may not want to reach, but motivation, call it what you will. But, and they had to grind to get back because like you said, it's competitive. They know what they're getting into. They know that they didn't meet the standard the first time. And some of those people are unbelievable.

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A man I never met, and I'm sure you know the name, Mikey Monsoor.

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Jumped on a grenade. I know a couple of people who were on the roof. And from what I understood, he was probably of the people on the roof in a position where he could have dove onto the stairs and likely shielded himself. They heard the grenade hit. He yelled grenade and jumped on it. Expired on the rooftop. Medal of Honor recipient.

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quit buds his first time through yeah yeah yeah and it's like yeah i was able to sit down with his dad i hosted his dad oh fuck me man yeah there's not in a tissue oh my god yeah but and his dad spoke about the impact that it had on and of course this is his dad speaking for his son so take for what it is from what his dad saw though and the impact on mike from quitting he was

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He wasn't destroyed by it, but it was not, you know what I mean? It wasn't something that he was going to write home about and be proud about.

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We are required to treat you differently. Well, now I know. You guys get what's called, in the instructor staff world, Bud's Light. I'm completely making all this up. We get white glove service, right? Sir, would you like another slice of cake under the boat? That's right, yeah. Thank you, yes. What was your commissioning source, by the way?

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There's just fewer slots.

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Well, it goes to your how much is on the piece of paper. You had to go through more. You had to fight harder.

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Again, I have no doubt to support it because it's not something that they do. But I would tend to agree with you. I think that that would be kind of right on the money. The more experience you have in life, the more adversity. Because I don't know about your class. Some of the first people to quit in mine were the D1 athletes. The best runner, gone on a swim.

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The best swimmer, of course, chewed his ass up. Let's be honest. The dirty name is not that hard.

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So I think you have fewer options and ability for creativity in

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What the fuck is wrong with you people?

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Oh, it's the best.

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I describe it to my wife as we are piranhas in a tank looking for a drop of blood.

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I've seen it go the other way too. In my class, and you'll recognize this as well, we had a guy who claimed to have made it to Wednesday of Hell Week and got rolled backwards instead of forwards.

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And man, he was like the burning bush. He had the beta for us. This is what we should expect.

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Yeah. We were, so my class did not get a breakout for Hell Week. Really? I have yet to determine. I know I have determined because of talking to other people in the class and the leadership.

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That the instructor staff 100% hated our guts. Wow. They, I do believe we're trying to get us to be one of the few buds classes that just vaporized.

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Well, you might get punched in the face, but they're definitely going to get ejected.

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Well, yeah, because they get to like, you have less than one boat crew. You're all getting rolled.

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Yeah. So they hated us. Yeah. So I don't know if we didn't get a breakout because of that, or they just want to always keep people on their toes. Or maybe some admin dude didn't put it, you know.

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They were out of smoke grenades. I can actually see a combination. Okay, so what did you do? What was your? Okay, so they put the, you know, the Vietnam GP tents out on the beach.

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And it's Sunday afternoon. Totally. We were in the second phase classroom. We ate a bunch of pizzas.

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I actually think we did probably.

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Yeah. And so just out of, you know, the fence that you run to, to get wet and sandy, they put them, you know, three tents South to North. I was in the Northern most tent and, And we're in there. And I think we were in there for a couple of hours. And everybody, of course, anxious, anticipation. You're waiting for what you'd seen on the document. Sure, yeah. And just like smoke and 60.

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Nothing sounds like a good 60.

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God, that cyclic.

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Yeah. And you're stressed about the week to begin with, but almost to the point of, can we just get this shit started?

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And we just hear, hit the surf. But the instructors, they were standing closer to the southernmost tent. So they all went out there and everybody else was just peeking through the little gaps.

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But I tell you what, it had the opposite impact in that moment of this guy couldn't make it and this is awesome because I'm doing something that somebody else can't. There was a whole train of people who hopped on board and said, I'm assuming- if this guy can't do it, there's no way that I can.

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That's right. Yes.

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And I tell you why. So many people in the teams before I were leaving were so enthusiastic about it. I just had to look at them and say, go fuck yourself.

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Judgment from your peers.

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Or we would have thrown you out.

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They had to stop the evolution in our class because so many people. We were merely hours into what we all knew started on a Sunday and ended on a Friday.

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And I remember so many people quit right at that first. Yes. Wow. Yeah. You know, because there was the call that in addition to the insouciance, of course, there was the fact that people had put this person into a position, a leadership role, a position of authority. A pedestal. Yes, they thought that he knows how to get to Wednesday, which seemed like a monumental feat.

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I also still to this day want to find the motherfucker that said, if you can see the sunrise on Wednesday morning, it's all downhill from there. Right in the face.

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Yeah, I remember seeing the sunrise on Wednesday and thinking, yeah, this sucks.

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Very filtered, clean water.

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Let's go get those boats on hands.

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We never did that, but I tell you what. having the tent empty on Wednesday, but keeping one of the students in there who is asleep and forging DOR paperwork. Oh my goodness. And surrounding them with the instructors and just casually like, Hey, just want to let you know, like this guy here, you know, this rollback, he's going to help you sleep as long as you want to.

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The class has already, because you know, the class has already continued on the evolution. Here's the paperwork you signed. Just want to make sure that you have it. I've seen them try to fight the instructors. I've seen them try to run out of the tent, have to be restrained. I've seen them roll over and go back to sleep. The level of, oh no, it's fucked.

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I love that you can't master it.

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I'm talking, you have to keep it together in the moment. And then afterwards, the rest of your shift, you're dying. I remember, I mean, even like in- That was the only instance I ever saw where a student was allowed to just absolutely cuss out the instructor.

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You can't, you cannot master it. You can't solve all the problems. And it's just infinitely, I truly believe that the key to staying young is learning new things. So why not participate in an activity where you can never learn everything?

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Oh yeah, they just, you motherfuckers. And then just ran out and clapped. The instructor's like, he's gonna be okay.

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The stress and the microscope, It's not on the students as much as they think. They think we see everything. Yeah, that's right. And we portray that we do. And maybe we have molds so we can have false information that ends up being true and they don't know where we got it. It's the same thing in the rafters.

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Eventually, at some point in Green Team, at least around three, you realize you're going to make it. And you're going through a run, and you get in the hang of it a little bit, and you look up a little bit, and the dude who's supposed to be watching you is just like fucking off in space. Because he's also exhausted by watching the same dude.

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And if you were going to make the mistake or oversweep or not decock or whatever it is, it's already going to have happened.

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How would you, if you could, how would you change the Bud's pipeline? Or would you?

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I tell you what, for Buds, What I didn't realize, and maybe I don't know if you realize this going through, the injury rate was a lot higher than I realized. Yeah, yeah. There was an aspect of luck for both of us.

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You went straight through, I'm assuming.

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I did as well. People like Jack Carr, unable to due to physiological and psychological weakness. Honestly, he was unlucky. Yeah. But you go into that program overtrained. I'm telling you right now, the odds are levering against you.

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The number of people that I saw just hurt them. I mean, they falling off of obstacles. Yeah. You know, the spider wall almost right towards the end. You go on, you go do that on Wednesdays. Usually if it had rained the day before that morning, holy cow, it was like climbing on moss. Yeah. I watched guys break their legs on that. Jeez.

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I watched guys fall off the slide for life, which is really weird considering you're holding on with your hands and feet. Yeah.

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Yeah, until it kept getting cut down. I don't know who would have ever wanted... Is that why?

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Who's to say why it was not up? Who's to say if people who went through without the net thought that the net was a set of training wheels that others shouldn't have to them?

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But shin splints, huge. I mean, they're just... I watch people... A guy got rolled in second phase because they were not being careful with putting down twin 80s and broke his hand. You know what I mean? So there was an essence of luck.

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But if you go into that training program over-trained, I don't have data to support this, but anecdotally what I saw, your likelihood of injury, just given how physical it is to begin with, is much higher.

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I saw students rolling their eyes at instructors. Can you fucking fathom rolling your eyes at Mike Mayer? No.

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He would take your face off. Oh, my God. Yeah. I mean, also, like, audible air leaks, meaning, hey, go hit the surf. And guys are like, pfft. What, and so what happened?

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let alone peripherally the people that maybe work in the next building. So we crossed paths and we're kind of in the same places, but didn't really know each other that well at all. So it was great to sit down, reconnect and talk about what he's got going on. I really enjoyed the conversation about the attributes and skills and problem solving and just successfully completing your goals.

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It's hard to say exactly what happened.

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What I can tell you is kicking the shit out of the student is nowhere in the acceptable practices.

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It goes back to moving your horizons. When I went as an instructor- I was very, I'm very late to the social media internet game. Yeah. I realized because I talked to some of the students, there are full websites that list almost every evolution of every day. And at first I'm like, you cocksuckers, you have the advantage.

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But then I realized the more they know it's actually worse because they know if you let's, everybody has good days and bad days. It's like a sine wave. let's say your Monday is starting off really shitty and you already know the other eight evolutions that are likely to happen. I'm going to get you.

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Crew and chess as well.

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I'm going to get you because you know, everything that's coming as opposed to setting it yourself.

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The attrition rate hasn't changed since all that information is available. I would actually advocate for people, uh, don't look at it.

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You can also make things seem like they're way harder than they actually are.

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Why did you decide to get out? It seems like you were on a pretty good trajectory. Yeah. I would call it the officer pipeline. Yeah, yeah. You were on a gravy train with biscuit wheels. Yeah. Headed towards a flag position, which I don't even know what that means, other than they fly around in private jets and have probably really good food.

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Chess for thinking.

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I mean, I make fun of officers. I was one for the last five years of my career.

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Heavy on the limited. Yeah. Light on the duty. Yeah, that's right.

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And though crew, it wasn't individual crew.

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How interesting is that, that there's a deviation between the singles rower and the doubles rower? Yes, that's right. I mean, that is, there are some direct ties to almost every ethos of the community there.

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That command is an odd place. You know, I was there for four and a half years. I did the minimum amount of time that I was required to. I left due to my injury. I feel like I would have stayed longer if the command had given me just a chance to recover a little bit. But it was what it was. I'm glad for the experience. I just don't ever want to try to portray it as something it wasn't.

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But that command is a weird place.

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The book stuff, you know... When I wanted to be a SEAL, when I was young, I went to the library and I tried to find as many books as possible. And it was through those books that I, at least I got an understanding of what a Vietnam era SEAL was like, but It lit my, it continued to throw, the fire was already lit in that direction.

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It reinforced that even though I didn't know what that was, but it's what I wanted to do. And I, you'll never find somebody who agrees more with, you know, protecting TTPs.

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Anything that's sensitive. Don't talk about equipment that you shouldn't talk about. Don't talk about how we would, you know, the fine fix, even the finish, you know, or exploit, like leave all that alone. And there's also ways to, It's so simple to talk broadly about those things.

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And if you're going to do that and write a book, there's nothing wrong with that. But that particular command, it's like if you open your mouth, you're exiled from that place. And I don't know... I don't know if it needs to be like that.

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And I would be the first person to criticize those.

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And I don't have a middle finger big enough. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Yeah, yeah. Let's be honest. We all fucking rented our Trident. Not a single one of us created the idea of being a SEAL. That's right. That's right. I did the best that I could. I hung it up. But guess what? I spent just under 17 years in that community. What is the point? of all of that effort.

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If you can't, like what you're saying, find a way to connect with somebody who would never want to be with that and impact their life, or take those experiences and the lessons learned and continue my life outside of that. Our community, I swear to God, if you were a SEAL and you find success outside of the SEAL realm, Holy shit.

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It is rough. And some of the people who are the largest critics, you can tell their entire identity is derived from that.

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Yes. And I do my best to have empathy. I'm getting older. Not necessarily wise.

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Age is an attribute? Okay, cool.

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Oh, I try. I'm doing my best to try to see things through other people's eyes, to not quickly judge. Basically the opposite of who I was when I was a younger man. Right, right. But sometimes, man, it's like, God, I just think this is coming from a place of jealousy. Or they don't, you know, like, how dare you do something?

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Yeah, that's probably a mix of both.

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I talk to people about this all the time, especially training partners. Everybody wants to win when they're in the gym. And if you go too hard, you can hurt your training partners or yourself. And I remind myself and other people like jujitsu is an individual journey, but it's a team sport. You have to have training partners for somebody to step into the UFC.

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I love that because it shows a creativity. We should acknowledge the fact that that's super weird that that was his hobby.

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It's cool, but it's weird. I'm the most normal person I know.

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Yeah, that's a niche, if you will, for sure.

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It's hard to be, I just described the command as the sharp end of the spoon, but... The spork? Is that a spork? No, it's a spoon. People are like, you guys are like scalpels. I'm like, yeah. Have you ever seen an ice cream scooper? It's like just a little bit. Yeah, that's right. I try to tell people the truth.

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I'm like, listen, I think if I had a smart monkey, I could teach him how to do everything that I did. They're like, that's not possible. Like, you have no idea what you're talking about. Right, right, right. It took me a long time to realize that our background is actually really dangerous. People who are at the apex, it's hard to start over at something that you're brand new at.

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And you're not going to be treated like you were. You got to go back down through the valley. Yes.

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I wish they actually would get rid of the walkouts. Like, just get the fuck in the ring. I don't need to see you in super slow-mo. Some of the songs are way better than others. Also, I never fight anybody from a stand with a chin strap beard. My God.

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Everybody wants to talk about mountaintops in life. To me, the juice is in the valley in between. Yeah. But our occupation, our old job is actually really dangerous. And I say that because it opens doors for people that they're not qualified for. And I've seen it so many times now where somebody will get hired just based off of what they're seeing on a resume.

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Military skills that they think, this person is unbelievable. I'm going to fit them in over here. And what happens is it goes really poorly. And then that organization... shuts the door to everybody else that might be behind them because of the bad experience that they had. It's an amazing experience. It's an amazing occupation. But I think you got to be careful.

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You have to recognize, and it's tough to do, to tell yourself, I should probably say no to this because I may not be tooled for it.

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No, they jump into retirement.

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I think they should be reminded of that daily.

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You might have to dial them a bit.

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My God. And the music they play, I'm like, all right. they all walk out with a team and there's a striking coach and a grappling coach and a conditioning coach and all of those people, like to get somebody to that apex, my God, it is layered upon layered upon layered. It's team activity as well.

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Yeah. Yeah. Describe it as trying to find things that consistently learning is the key to staying young. young. I mean, I'm 47 on my driver's license. I look at that. I'm like, what the fuck?

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Yeah, you and I will never stop either.

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Hell, to me, sounds like retirement and doing nothing. Yes. Like, absolute. Yeah. Yeah, that's hell.

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So I've actually considered, I've had this book idea pitched to me. You know, there's a book called The Things That They Carried.

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Yeah. Yeah. We write one about all the stupid, funny shit. Yeah. Yes. That happened. Like in Iraq with the squadron overseas watching a dude sprint through a courtyard and get clotheslined by a clothesline under nods. Again, for five minutes. Yeah. There could have been a massive gunfight going on. Yeah. Combat fucking ineffective.

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Same squadron, Afghanistan. A man makes a dynamic entry into the room where humans decided that they need to shit. Slips. I was the number two man. I see him go, slip. His head disappears as he slides, and I just close the door.

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He sat at the back of the 47 on the right back. And again, we're like, there's a cow in a house one time, and my friend's pinned up against the wall, and he's like, help me. And I'm like, I... Don't know how. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because there's a life, I'm fucking dying laughing. Like there's livestock in a room and you're pinned against the wall. This is fucking awesome.

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Yeah, man. Yeah. What was the highlight of your 21 years? Can you think back on anything like the absolute wave top?

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I'm a fan of his, by the way. Never met the guy. I communicated with him once on Instagram. We messaged back and forth. I said, come to Montana. He's like, yeah, it sounds good. And that was it. That sounds about right.

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I'm going to rephrase my definition of hell. I was going to say it was retirement. That actually sounds slightly worse to me. It's a water thing, right? I mean, I've talked to some guys, and I will say to them, I'm sorry, how many hours did you say that evolution was? Yes, yeah. Underwater the whole time? Yeah, I don't care how warm the water was or what tropical island you're on.

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So yeah, I'll put retirement as a close second to what you just described.

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I have a 21 going on 22, 20 going on 21 and 16 going on 17. Oh yeah. It's amazing.

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Taking them to Costa Rica next week for a jujitsu seminar that my wife is teaching. So it's just awesome.

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What was the low point, 21 years?

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Because I mean, the government. spent millions of dollars trying to figure out who to get to Bud's. They did psychological tests, they did IQ tests, EQ tests, personality assessments, training pipelines to begin with, and spoiler alert, the attrition rate was what it was. What does Huberman think? What are his thoughts as to who makes it through?

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It was a tough drive to work.

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We got lucky, or unlucky, depending on your optic.

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I think there's any way we can stop our friends from killing themselves.

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By the way, one of the most positive attitudes, I have talked about him on the show, but I never use this. I actually think I might have said HB. So he was my first team leader when I got to the command. He was the single best example of leadership that I ever encountered. Yeah, yeah.

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He, spoiler alert, lost both of his legs after the military and still has one of the most resoundingly positive attitudes. I'm like, hey man, can you actually be an asshole once or twice so I can see it? Because you make me feel like shit.

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It's a shitty 18 months to two years.

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It's probably what made you good at your job.

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It's the crossover where you start getting in trouble.

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Have you looked at all at the relationship between, and this is something that I, again, it took me a long time being away from the military and having conversations with friends that I was friends with, very close friends while in the military, but our conversations are much different now in this phase in our life. Yes, yes.

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Like, I don't remember asking a single person, like, hey, man, how was your childhood? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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If they would have said, oh, it was roughly like, shut up, pussy.

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Yeah, like, shut up, loser. And now I have no data to support this, but more often than not, It seems to me that there is some type of connection, and I'm wondering if you've looked into this at all. People focus so much on the trauma of the job, which it is real, and people carry it in different ways. And like I said, we're all a different vessel with stress-relieving mechanisms.

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I have been shocked by the number of people who brought an immense amount of trauma into the job. And I've thought about it, and I've talked with them. Some of them, horrendous family environments. If you phrase it broadly, painting with a broom a little bit, they end up looking for a job that allows them to go after people that would either bully or target others.

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I'll tell you what we both – Does he realize we don't fucking know you?

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There is no job like the one that we used to have that allows you to take those type of people, look for them, find fix, finish, get them off the board. But it's the same thing with there's something to being able to detach from emotions. You still have to deal with that.

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So if you brought a lot in and were exposed to a lot and you get out and you haven't dealt with either of those, there's a connection there somewhere. It's more than just the military aspect. There's a certain type of person that wants to do that job better. Not everybody.

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That's the natural evolution. Any coach and teacher, if you're not developing athletes or students that are better than yourself, Yeah. There's actually something wrong, likely with that person, because it's usually an ego.

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Yeah, my only worry with that one is, and you know this deal as well as I do, and this is probably just men writ large, not necessarily SEAL teams. How you doing? Good? Yeah.

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I play this game with my daughter every day. How was your day, sweetheart? Fine. Awesome. And I actually have stopped asking follow-on questions because they provide me nowhere information.

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So episode 387 is going to be with Rich Deviney. Give me an interview here. Let me pay the bills so I can keep bringing the podcast to everybody for free. Today's episode is brought to you by Black Rifle Coffee. You guys know the brand. You know I'm tied into the brand. I'm incredibly good friends with the founder, Evan. I own one of the coffee shops up here in Montana.

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That's right, yeah. Yeah, if you ask them a question that could be answered in a single word, often with a single syllable, that's what you do.

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Yeah. So I, let me see, 2010 was my last deployment. My oldest was seven. So then it was been seven, five, three. So I got away with it a little bit.

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What a great week, getting all your gear. I couldn't believe the shopping carts that they loaded me up with.

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They opened you guys with jumping, huh?

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So they did CQC up front and then went to jumping. What year did you go through? 2002.

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And at the end of the jumping phase, they'd let you know if you were going to assaults or boats.

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Very intricate.

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Gravity is an undisputed champion. It works everywhere. I've tested it on all sets.

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You just gotta, you know, just step off.

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Focus on the exit. That day out there where the cadre came up and said to the class, how would you like to receive this information? Would you like us to read the names of people going to assaults, which we will do alphabetically? Yeah. Or would you like us to read the names of people who are going to boats?

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Which we will do alphabetically.

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This is why you make your money.

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Fight breaking out. Yeah. I think they went with names going to boats.

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Smaller list anyway. But I tell you, you know, that was on a Friday. We all went out drinking that night and there were people who were drinking. For happiness.

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I already know where you're going with this and I can actually point back to the exact experiences that I had and know where it came from. Yeah. And you probably got the advice in BUDS That I did. Yeah. Which is just make it to the end of the day. Yeah. And in Hell Week, just make it to the next meal.

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You want to talk about willingly getting the living shit beat out of you though?

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And a lot of those guys worked their way up into the assault squadrons anyway.

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You're still at a command that I have, I struggle to have the vocabulary to describe.

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Well, one would actually navigate the waves. The other one would punch through the waves.

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I learned quickly, when you see the driver duck, you better duck. That's right. Because the green wall is coming for your ass. And if you don't duck, you better have a really strong lantern on your nose.

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What a... What other kind of entrepreneurial endeavors do you think you'll get into? You got any crazy Wahoo stuff that you're kind of eyeballing?

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I was going to say, just because she officially has the title now doesn't mean- It doesn't mean she won't.

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You have any desire to enter brick and mortar type business stuff or take the opportunity if it ever presents itself?

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Which is a broad brush compartmentalize. It's a compartmentalize. Focus only on the moment. Right. Get through whatever it is, you know. Yeah. When Master Chief Mayor is screaming at you with his jaw.

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You can do it on a laptop. It is insane what you can do with a laptop egg.

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So I don't have any additional Russian proverbs to bring to this conversation. I know of none. I know one now. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah, that is a true story. Where can people find you? What do you want to leave it with? We've been like two and a half plus hours.

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You sure you don't want to have six different websites for one for one book?

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Just go to the WIS website, which then go into my link tree, which we'll set up.

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And what's your handle on Instagram?

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Some fucker out there has Andy Stumpf. Really? Which is why I'm Andy Stumpf 212. Isn't that amazing? Asshole. Yeah. Yeah. It's my 76 year old father. Just actually 78. but he's like as old as Jesus would be still alive. Yeah. Just got on Instagram and follow like three Andy stones, none of which were correct.

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I try to, but also I'm terrified of him. And he is literally the example of shooting a monkey into space when it comes to the internet.

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He, I'm worried. He's going to take the phone to the bathroom with him and not realize he's going to go down a rabbit hole.

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Dude, thanks for coming out.

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We hadn't even classed up yet, not to take a tangent. And I think he's out now, so I'll use his name. This was Mike Mayer. We were over at 618. I wasn't even in that barracks yet. This was like a Saturday. He beat the ever-living shit out of us with a jaw that was wired shut from surgery. I remember.

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His daughter was walking around and two dudes just got up and ran towards where they thought the bell was.

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Um, never been more fucking sore in my life.

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Cause we would be like, fuck you.

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Oh, hello there.

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I'm actually an AI assistant too.

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That'll be the last thing people hear.

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That's what Leah does too.

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It's not my choice.

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There was attempted true crime.

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That's so cool to start something like that.

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Is it already sold out?

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Like, why are you doing this to me?

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Okay, got the red smoke. Gun runs north and south, west of the smoke, west of the smoke.

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Yeah, I know of a story.

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It was 5. We're good?

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Also hat die Firma diese Transaktionen blockiert?

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Hast du ihn letztens gesehen? Nein, ich habe ihn gesehen, als ich ein Hobby gesehen habe. Und ich frage, weil er seine Haare geschmissen hat.

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Oh, yeah. It'll be grown. Yeah. Yeah.

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Er ist. Er entdeckt über Fraude.

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Ja, ich kenne eine Geschichte. Einer meiner älteren Verwandten hat einen Anruf bekommen. Es geht um eine weitere Generation, die nicht so technologisch fähig ist. Sie hat einen Anruf bekommen. Und das war nicht mal sehr fähig. Sie hat einfach einen Anruf bekommen und gesagt, dass es einer der Cousins war. Und sie war so, oh, okay, wo sende ich Geld?

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Yeah. Yeah. Also, fire away. Also, am Newark-Aeroport hat fünf ATC-Kontrolleure eine Trauma-Liebe genommen. Hast du das gehört?

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Ja. Also meine Frage ist, äh, ich habe es heute Morgen gesehen. Anscheinend sind ihr Radar und Radio runtergegangen. Für, so ein paar Tage. Mhm. Und so, diese fünf, äh, Kontrollers nehmen eine Traumabrechnung für 45 Tage. Meine Frage. 45 Tage? Ja. My question to you. Now, I've never been an air traffic controller. I've never flown a plane. Yet. Yet.

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Nein, ich denke wirklich, es wird wirklich schwierig.

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I might get it, but at the same time, I've never flown a helicopter, so likely I probably won't get it. Knowing your hand-eye coordination, capability, intelligence, like you're not going to get it. Which is impeccable. Sorry, okay, back to the ATC. Anyways, like I said, never been a travel controller, never been a pilot. However...

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I don't know that I would describe that situation as traumatizing per se. And now I want, do you think, you know, having to guide planes with no radar or radio, which would be in my imagination very difficult, do you think that warrants a 45-day trauma leave?

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All right. Did you hear or see? I think this was actually like a week ago. But in New York, a helicopter broke apart in midair. I did see that one. Yeah, let me airdrop it to the computer here.

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Hier ist, was ich sagen würde. Ich denke, du sagst, du kennst nicht meine Freunde, ich kenne meine Freunde, also f**k off. Das ist, worauf ich denke. Ist das, was du von mir als Person denkst?

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Wow, das ist verrückt.

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Ich weiß nicht, ob du vielleicht diese Worte dieser Person sagen würdest, aber... Ja, ich fühle mich, dass das... Ich fühle mich, dass du eine ziemlich leidenschaftliche Person bist. Und nur weil eine Person sagt, oh, diese Person ist eine schreckliche Person, wirst du sofort sagen, oh, du hast recht, okay.

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Yeah. Yeah, I hope that doesn't happen in my training exercise.

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Did you actually tell her this? Yeah. Okay, I need to have a talk with her before we get going.

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You're just making things up to make me look bad.

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Death wish. Ja, ja, das wird großartig sein. Das ist so großartig. Ich denke so.

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Nein, ich denke, es wird lustig sein. Ja, das wäre cool. Es wäre super lustig, Helikopter zu fahren.

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Ja, wir machen das, wenn du von deiner Reise zurückkommst. Ja, cool. Ich bin nicht begeistert von dir, mich zu sprechen, mich zu sprechen, Quote, unquote, zu sagen, wie einfach ich dachte, es wäre.

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Hast du das India-Pakistan-Stuff gehört?

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Nein, sie haben eigentlich zu Krieg gestiegen. Great. Zwei dritte Welt-Nuklear-armte Länder, die in den Krieg gehen.

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Also... Pakistaner oder Terroristen aus Pakistan kamen in Kashmir, das ist wie das disputierte Territorium zwischen den beiden. Sie töteten jemanden, der nicht muslimisch war. Und nachdem hat Indien Raketen in Pakistan gefeuert. Ja, nur bei dem, was sie bezeichneten, waren die terroristischen Basen.

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Also, lass uns sehen. Hier ist Kaschmir, das ist wie das disputierte Territorium zwischen den beiden.

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Pahalgam. Back out a little bit. So yeah, right in the middle of Kashmir. Interesting.

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Right. Yeah. Yeah. My fear is, I guess, I don't know if India is really classified as third world, but Pakistan definitely is. And I don't know if they know the ramifications of using a nuclear weapon.

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Oh ja, das wäre... That's like nightmare scenario. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, fun little thought experiment.

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Yeah, I would go to our cabin, family cabin, in an undisclosed location. How did you get there?

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Yeah, that would be, I would drive as far as I could and then walk the rest of the way. Gott, du wirst jemanden sein Konkubin werden.

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How quickly did this devolve? Is this like a year? Because that's a lot for a year. A couple of hours. There's warlords in a couple of hours.

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I would take a gun and some ammo. A gun and some ammo. Some food.

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Well, my hunting rifle and my AR.

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Äh, es ist eine Saison.

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Eigentlich gehe ich nur zu deinem Haus in Lake Mary.

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Boise and Salt Lake Boise? Boise. Yeah. Make the Pride Flags official city flags. Come again? Oh yeah. Boise and Salt Lake voted to make Pride Flags official city flags along with their other city flags. So that they can be flown in government areas. Huh. I'm sharing right now. My question is Why would you do that?

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Yeah. Seems like virtue signaling to me.

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Oder einfach... Ja, ich muss mich erfüllen.

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Oh, I do, actually. No, you don't. Yes, I do. Well? Yeah, I drove one for many years.

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Für mich ist es, ich meine, es scheint ziemlich unbedeutend. Wie ist das wirklich? Waren wir uns um das, wenn, ja, du weißt, es gibt noch viel mehr wichtige Dinge zu diskutieren.

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Nein, 100 Prozent nicht. So, I'm pretty sure I read something a while ago. You're pretty sure or you're sure? I'm pretty sure. Holy shit.

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At one point, the military was considering the SCAR platform to be their main... Yeah, I deployed with it in 2010.

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Was your opinion like, dislike?

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Und das ist eine ziemlich informierte Meinung.

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Ich fühle mich, dass das ähnlich ist, als wenn sie in Vietnam das M16 erst ausgeliefert haben. Ja, wahrscheinlich M16A1. Ja, und alle waren so, was zur Hölle ist das Ding?

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Für den Rest des Tages. Ja. Also hast du einfach noch eine Waffe bekommen? Oder was?

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Also hattest du das für den Rest?

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Ja, cool. Und dann nach dem, wann ging du zurück zu, was war es, M4s?

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Yeah, Cover actually protects you from bullets. What's concealment? It's just they can't see you.

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Ja, das klingt wie ein ziemlich guter Plan. Ja. Okay.

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Wie verstehst du das, wo es herkommt?

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Yeah. Yeah. So for a time you may be uncovered.

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Hast du gehört von dem Film Warfare? Ich habe es nicht gehört. Ich habe es nicht gehört, aber ich habe gehört, dass es eine der akkuratesten Erlebnisse von einem Feuerbruch ist.

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Noch einen. Okay. Make it good, Michael. Okay, let's see what I got here. So, Trump declassifies JFK, RFK and MLK files. And I don't know exactly what has come out of that yet, because I think it's going to take a long time to actually sift through all of that.

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I think it was a lot of what we already knew.

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Aber ja, ich... Ich dachte, oh, das ist cool. Vielleicht finden wir eigentlich etwas heraus. Aber es ist einfach so, dass es so aussieht, als ob nichts daraus kam.

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Ja, genau. Und es ist einfach so, okay, danke, ich glaube.

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Und ich fühle auch, dass es eine ziemlich generelle Konsens ist. Ich weiß nicht, vielleicht wie half of the country is like, yeah, the CIA killed JFK and MLK. A lot of people believe that.

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Or the CIA orchestrate all of this.

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I'm going to Ireland and the UK. Just with family. To see the motherland. All the Schaltei? I did the cap roll with your brother the other day. Yeah, he told me. He told me he bled on you.

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Yeah, I'm actually not sure what happened. It doesn't sound like he got hit or anything. No. But yeah, I think he just... Do you know Garage Greg, the Purple Belt? Yeah.

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Hell yeah. So Ireland and the UK. Ireland and the UK, yep.

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I gotta make sure we're not related first. I think you're gonna be okay.

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Long, long time. Like two generations, three. You're okay. Yeah, I think I'll probably be good.

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What do you got? Well, I would probably not do anything because I don't want to bring any more redheads into this world. I don't want to curse my children with the red-headed gene. Do you know how likely it would be to have a red-headed child if both parents are redheads?

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More pictures of sculptures, architecture, masonry work. Why would I not take pictures of that? What else am I supposed to take pictures of?

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That's what she sent?

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Und wiederum, die Finger über dem Topf. Die Finger sind so schlecht gekroppt. Es sieht aus, als ob sie nur Triangeln für das Kroppen ausmachen. Und es ist einfach so. Es ist wie, Alter, du musst ein bisschen schwerer versuchen als das. 30.000 Euro.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10001.269

They're inside of like the ISS.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10045.641

He's in a space station on the ground. And also, like, I know it's like, you know, a horror movie trope or whatever, but the idea of a guy who has his wife and a two-year-old and they have an entire bunker full of, like, food and supplies for himself being like, I just wish there were more people here. That's what would make this better.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10098.831

Uh, that's that dude in cube, right? After everyone dies, he's like, we're Adam and Eve, me and you, the new generation. Yeah. Yeah. That, uh, yeah, yeah. Just the bug out bag and stuff like that. It's very, it's very cute. It's very cute.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10113.738

it's yeah it's like oh god bug out bag we're trying to keep people safe i gave him cases of mres it's like no you wouldn't if you were in a bunker with your wife and child you are not making a noise you are just letting that play out yeah a month later april 30th sun vanish says i went to the coordinates he finally made it and there's a video with the message nothing was there no no shit dude

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10146.633

The coordinates were just the highway.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10161.424

Oh, I thought that back in the day, I guess we're just on the highway.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10173.154

No, it's, it's okay. It's because Danion went out for supplies and never came back. And then I think off of like phone. I don't know either their phone tracking. I think Daniel sent a message, but off phone tracking, he found coordinates. So Daniel was like, Hey, I'm going to go get gasoline. And then he pulls up the coordinates and Daniel was last seen like 2000 miles away.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

1018.444

You don't have anything, any smart.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

1019.886

No, that's it. Okay. A little clicking thing. And he ran away.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10198.068

If it took him like what, two months to get there. Um, so Daniel got whipped across the upper stratosphere and, And for a millisecond, his phone like dinged off a tower. So he's like, huh, that's weird. We're in Northern Maine and Danion, his phone went off in Northern New Mexico. That's true. And then Danion's in Wuhan, China. He went from right here in Maine to Wuhan in four seconds.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

1023.791

Hold up. Go back to that video real quick. I think on a lot of them, you can see the time it was posted. You may not be able to on old ones. 1140 PM.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10235.782

It's so weird he can do that. sure he's absolutely well i guess i have to cross the sea god make sure daniel's okay i guess i gotta swim daniel getting atomized across the lower yeah he's like stretching across Oh, okay. So then Sun Vanish continues, says, I waited so long for nothing. He says, my arm hasn't been healing. In fact, it's been getting worse.

CreepCast

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10264.211

My veins surrounding the broken part are swelling and getting darker, I guess. And then he says, this car has been following me for the past 10 minutes and attaches a picture. And there is a car following him. This could have some relation to the car that was seen back in his camera roll. He then says, my blood just went cold as he shares a screenshot from Danyan. That says pull over.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10285.137

We just want to talk. Ooh, that's a great, I'm sure. What if he said that in Chinese? That'd be pretty scary.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10299.08

to china and he just like acclimated to the culture like that he says i'm doing it with another screenshot uh from daniel says this isn't daniel but he is safe please pull over and let us talk to you i personally would not pull over i don't think you should i don't think you should

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10316.977

sun vanish continues i don't even know what to say after the that encounter i attempted recording but they noticed and stopped me immediately made me leave my phone in the car i'm trying to make sense of what all they said this is way beyond me i was expecting a bunch of looters of course they still had firearms but they were very civilized there was a man and a woman among the group they seemed to be the ones in charge they were using daniel to get to me against his will that's why he discouraged me from tweeting and why he left

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

1033.783

So that one was actually at night. Nevermind. Were you trying to get a... See, it was at 11.40 a.m. I thought it was going to be fine if it was like 2 p.m. or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it wasn't. It was at midnight.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10344.045

What? What? Okay, whatever. Why not just tell him that instead of being like, stop tweeting. I have to go and then disappear. Whatever. Okay. They just said they wanted my help, but why not contact me directly? I asked about Daniel and they just keep repeating. He's safe. He's safe. They want my account. They consider it valuable for reasons they won't tell me.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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I said I'd consider if they told me why. They wouldn't budge, said that if the info is leaked in the wrong way, it will, and I quote, ruin our chances of survival. I don't know what they mean by that, but it scares the living hell out of me. All right, interesting.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10377.157

So they want his account, maybe his account, because he's talked before about how no one else seems to be able to get messages out and signal, maybe his account's anomalous for some reason. Next day, May 11th, he says, I don't even know what to do now. I finally made it to the coordinates after all this time, only to be met with more questions.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10392.605

I think I've known for a long time, but now it really hit me. I'm purposeless. It's just, what the hell can I do? Except give my account to these people that have Danion. People have been sending me stuff they've been seeing and hearing. Unusual activity from the military, from the headlights, the ships. Start to piece together what's going on. May 12th.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10413.735

He says another photo showed up in the remember album. And this time it is a photo of it's like, there's a cell tower and a power line on snowy ground, but it's daytime. Yeah. Cause remember all the other pictures were daytime, weren't they?

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10437.665

That was the last one, but I think the previous three were like during daytime. I'm pretty sure. I mean, maybe, yeah. Maybe somehow, maybe there's something with his phone where it's like there's almost two users, one where the sun vanished, one where it didn't. Like a parallel universe kind of thing. Yeah, yeah. They're overlapping.

CreepCast

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May 14th, he says, for those of you asking, I don't want to reveal what I might know about these people since I know they're watching every tweet I send. In other news, my arm is getting even worse. There's this dark ooze coming from the wound now. And then he posts a screenshot from a text chain with Danyan. How much of the contaminated water have you consumed?

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10493.648

Yeah. Yeah. That his injury is like causing like blood poisoning basically. So after that, uh, three months later, it's three months with nothing.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

105.714

Yeah, they've continued a little bit after, into 2023, I think. So as we talk about, we're going to be talking about what accounts it came from, what the dates are. There's some videos. We're going to watch those together. So if you're not familiar with it, hopefully this is a great introduction, give you an idea for the series.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10516.32

Yeah. There's these long gaps in between. And August 8th, the only one who does speak is Tucker. So the sun vanished was, you know, gone for even longer.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10552.56

Yep, so like another three months. So the sun vanished like half a year gone from May 14th to November 12th. Also, could you imagine like another survivor group coming across like Nat and Tucker and being like, oh, what are you two doing in here?

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10577.202

Yeah, but there's also like these again, it's kind of the writing. The military is still fine. In some instances, it feels like.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

1059.384

Look at this. What the hell? It's a picture of the red light on the tree.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10593.952

No, I mean, because it says they're shooting down the aliens. Maybe they did the thing to summon them. Maybe it's kind of, you remember in the mist how that soldier says like, oh, well, we were doing experiments in a lab and we opened up a portal and that's what caused this. But it's not like the military wanted this to happen. They just goofed up and made it happen. Maybe it's something like that.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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So November 12th, Sun Vanish says, I'm not strong enough. I can't help them. I can't save them. I can't save anyone. Not even myself. I've been thinking for a long time. Would it even make a difference if I hadn't gone after Danion? Do the choices I make even matter? What's the point in tweeting to the void when there's nobody left? It's so, so quiet now. But the irony is, my head isn't quiet.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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It's like all the weight of the world got crammed into my brain. It won't stop whispering in my head. I think the accident was my arm. I think it opened up something inside me. All my veins look like this. I feel like I have a fever. That's a fun photo. But at least I'm still alive, right? And there's like a long black vein going down his arm.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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Then that tweet was made by Big Big Yoshi Butt. What the hell?

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10654.974

So I know they're setting up the deep water thing, but it's also one of the infected people who broke his arm. So maybe that, you know, when they came into contact with him, maybe that exasperated it, too. He then says, I made it back home. Everything is just where I left it. It feels deathly still here.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10675.747

I think... Why did he go back to his house?

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10682.632

Well, I'm going to go back to my house where, like, the black water was that I can't drink anymore. Like... How are water lines still? Anyway, they're gone. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they certainly aren't here. I haven't heard from the group that had Daniel either. And it says the world has been harvested. What is there left to do? It's over. We lost. That's fine. Harvested.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10702.696

It's interesting. Goddamn. A little bit of optimism there, bud.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10723.305

Then after that, Tucker posts some screenshots of tech conversations between him and that. I like how we can't, because of the format, we can't have them converse with each other. So they're going to be in the same place tweeting at each other.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

1076.618

Okay. All right. So after that, going off of what Hunter pointed out, he says, I looked for stars or planets as you all suggested. The sky was absolutely pitch black. Could be because of clouds or something else. I thought I saw some figures close by, but it is so dark. I feel like my mind is playing tricks on me.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10786.616

They're in the same room.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10818.547

Yeah. I mean, it's impressive to keep a story going for this long, even if there's long gaps between it and stuff like that. There's certainly a dedication to it that I admire. It's pretty cool. January 2020. Fuck. I fucking almost cut up my goddamn finger with... My Red Bull can with a little lip. Good God. Don't say the brand unless they sponsor us. Oh, true.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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The liquid that turns my blood to oil. Well, don't say that because I think that confirms we don't get sponsored. Oh, shit. Water.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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There you go, yeah.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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And also having this like coming of age, like I'm not a kid anymore. I'm not a kid anymore. A timeline where the sun's blotted out and the spaceships are like vaporizing people.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10932.118

Yes. Or at least that last tweet was, I think, I'm not sure, but just in the middle of the apocalypse, I'm not a kid anymore. I can be on my own. Very last of us. It is. And also like that level of, um, uh, well, it's got other than the fact the sun doesn't exist and the corpses and aliens that exist everywhere in the headlights, we have to look out. It's pretty normal.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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I don't have much food stocked up, but after this experience with being outside for only a few minutes, I do not want to drive into town for supplies. Still shaken from the short time I was outside. I don't know what the flashing light was, but it was following me. Day three, still no sign of daylight. It's getting colder.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

10954.753

There's still internet like, okay, well,

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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You know what I mean? Like in real time. I know, I know. I'm getting, I'm getting, what's the word? I'm getting bitter for no reason. So whatever. So after this, Nat, post a screenshot of a message with the caption saying, Nat, please listen.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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And then Nat says in a quote, quoting that screenshot.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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Bum, bum, bum. All right. So then after that, February the 5th, the Sun Vanish tweets, I miss Danion. God damn, dude. Fuck Danion.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

11046.862

I mean, yeah, it's just been frustrating. Like, what are we doing?

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

11053.966

The sun vanished or Gregory 88, Gregory 88, Gregory 88, because it was like, sure. The ending was ridiculous, but it's high points. more tied into each other because it was shorter the entire thing was more compact this has been two years and some months like it is interesting in the long term but to go two months and you're only tweets like i'm still alive not sure what to do it's like okay

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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Like, you know. It would be easier to function if I just knew for certain that he was alive or not, but all I have is this in-between. When I lie awake in the quietness, I can hear him. It's faint, and I can't tell what he's saying, but I know it's his voice. And now my only friends, Nat and Tucker, are estranged. I haven't heard from Tucker in ages. Did I fail? I couldn't save any of them.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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I'm just rotting here with whatever sickness I have, and the ships pass by my house daily. not even worth the trouble to finish off. I do like that note. I'm not worth the trouble to finish off.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

11118.822

With every passing... I think if we look at the first few months of Sun Vanished, I think it's superior with him looking outside and going to the neighbor's house.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

11137.877

It's also just so dragged out. Like, yes, I understand. But why are you going across country? How are you going across country? Why are you driving that far? I'm plugging in my GPS. How is one person saying this is all normal? But then another person's like, oh, I don't know. How is their Internet? You know, how is their Internet? Yeah. Like, what are we what are we talking about?

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

1114.22

Okay, so this is now when like other accounts start to tie into it, I believe. An account called Another Angel responded to the previous tweet, the one saying day three, and says, stay safe, brother. Does calling 911 or the National Guard help? Are you able to contact anyone else besides us on Twitter? To which the sun vanished responds, I've tried, all I get is a busy tone.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

11159.206

Yeah, I don't know. So after this, the next day, February 6th, Sun Vanish continues and says, where are they going? The ship's in the strobe lights. They're still here, but their patrol cycles have been different. Where are they going?

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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Uh, about a month and a half later, the sun vanished says, Daniel is here. He's in the room with me. There's Daniel, but he's here, but he's here. It's not nebulous now. He's here. All right, let's see what the picture is. He says, look, the picture is... Oh my God, fuck you. What? The picture. What? I mean, it's a selfie in a mirror.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

11209.08

I don't, I don't see...

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

11211.52

danion in the picture right is that what it's is it implying that he can see danion but we can't i thought i thought he's saying that danion is the one taking the picture no no i think he's taking the picture and to him danion's standing next to him but he's not actually there that's why i get from it also look at his fingers you were so right about the long spindly fingers look at that it's crazy i know gross long fucking little little tootsies dude

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

11236.963

okay yeah and after this he says he's standing behind me i can see him in the mirror uh which yeah once again he's not there and then he says why can't you see and then post a video with the word listen repeated over and over again yeah So there's kind of a breathy whispering noise, but to me that sounds like it's probably just him, right? Yeah, it's just him sitting there doing...

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

11270.731

It's just him freaking out thinking that Daniel's there when he's actually not. Cause after that, he continues to says he's here. I know it. I just don't know what to say to him. What should I say? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I told him I'm sorry for everything I did to him. I just want him to stay here with me again. Like how things used to be. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

11291.105

I'm sorry. So in another video that says, no, no, no, he's gone. He's gone. He's gone. And I can't get him back.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

11314.239

Yeah, so the next one, this video is the exact same as the last one. It's the Sun Vanish kind of whimpering, like crying in the corner, and there's no one else in the room with him. So yeah, Sun Vanish is losing his mind. After that, Tucker says, As contamination continues, it's not just repeating words and phrases.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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And the Sun Vanish responds to Tucker's tweet and says, You don't have any idea what you're talking about, Tucker. To which Tucker replies, How do I know all this? Because it's why Nat left.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

11343.915

it's why i'm alone all over again the idea of them just tweeting at each other like oh i'm so lonely so next we have march the 30th march the 30th sun vanish says since you won't shut up about my hand and arm here it is but i cannot fathom why that matters right now i have to find daniel so he's completely insane and his arm bro you want to talk about an arm look at that

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

11369.697

Those are those fingers you've been talking about.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

11372.418

Big old grippers. He's got some paddles on him. The next day, March 31st, Nat posted a screenshot of a threatening message they received.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

1138.351

This Twitter is the only way I know how to contact the outside world. So again, playing into the theme that like all communication lines are down, he can get tweets out for some reason. What are you smiling about?

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

11390.021

I like that. That was a good read. Thank you. After this, Nat's account doesn't post for over a year.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

11396.543

that's great uh april 3rd the sun vanished shares a screenshot of a group chat that him tucker and nat's account being puppeted by an unknown party with tucker reposting the screenshots so nat says we need to talk that holy shit are you okay are you safe what happened since you left sorry to disappoint you tucker but it's not nat she's safe with us though do not worry wait what the fuck who is this

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

11439.165

It's the people who were on Danyan's phone number and took him from me. The liars.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

11471.874

I didn't ask for that responsibility. I don't want it anymore. So fine, you can take my account. I don't care anymore. Hold on a second. It's all about a Twitter account.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

11493.59

Why are they arguing about Twitter accounts?

CreepCast

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If you want to make a Twitter ARG, that's fine, but don't use the Twitter account.

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I don't have the first idea what you mean, but if I do what you want, will I see Danyan again? Of course.

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A person just ran by on my street. Two of the same flashing lights I saw yesterday were following him. They were gone by the time I got my phone out to record. The sun vanished, then went dark for an uncomfortable amount of time or hours after this, continuing the tweets on May 3rd, which he says, sorry, everyone. Reception went out yesterday. I was worried it wouldn't come back on.

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I need to see Danny again. I'll do whatever it takes. Oh my God. Stop it. I'll do whatever it takes.

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The idea of these people in a post-apocalypse tweeting in a group chat.

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We need your Twitter account.

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At Lost Sun News, you said it hurts our chances of future survival. What does that mean?

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Then on October 24th, The Sun Vanish posts a cryptic video.

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So the headlights, I always imagine them as like, you know, these big like kind of tripod things walking around to kill people, you know, aliens. But then it's clear for like 30 seconds of that video that it's just a guy holding a flashlight. Yeah. I mean, like, just don't show that. And like all the monologue, it's okay. We're almost done. Whatever. Okay.

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No signs of activity outside. Come to think of it, it's been a while since I heard a gunshot. An account called Jacob responds to this previous tweet asking, can you see light anywhere like house lights or car headlights? To which the sun vanish responds. The only lights on are the walkway lights near my front porch. Maybe a few house lights down the road. Power's not out right now.

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After this, the sun vanished says, I think I'm beginning to understand. I can't just survive. I have to live. I just thought he died. You know, was that not his death? Him saying all that. And then the, the headlight thing attacking. I don't know. I just killed one of those things. We have a chance to fight against them. You can't hold Daniel's life over me anymore. Okay.

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He then says, this is what happened to my old phone. Text conversations, contact list, all gone. He shows, he posts like a GIF where the phone's been shattered. He says, my only hope now is to reach out on Twitter to Tucker, find out where he went and track down the people who took Nat. And also, so is that implying that the...

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the, the headlight or whatever just destroyed his phone and not him, I guess. All right. And then after that, the entire story goes dark for over a year, picking back up in October 29th of 2021. But considering it goes dark for a year and considering the current emotions of the room, a hundred, you just want to, you want to call it there. You want to say that?

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I think that is actually where the story concludes. I think, well, they never posted again after that.

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We're not even halfway through. We're two pages shy of halfway through.

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Well, that's a little different, admittedly, because Boroska 5 was an unneeded sequel to a good story, whereas this one is just the original story.

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I'm almost positive The Sun Vanished came first, but there's been a bunch of Twitter ARGs. I'm sure whichever one came first inspired the other, but I don't think it was total. I don't think one is the sole reason another existed. There were several Twitter ARGs. This could almost act like a creep TV episode.

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And if you want to check it out for yourself, we'll have the links to everything in the description, as always.

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Okay. So the sun vanish started, uh, April, 2018, right? In July, three months before Gregory 88 started. Oh, there you go. But it didn't cause Gregory 88 started July 22nd of 2018. And on July 22nd, the sun vanished was at, uh, what part of the story? Um, It was at the part where the sun vanished disappears for the first time.

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I'm just keeping all my lights off as a safety precaution. To which then sun vanish says something just flew over my house and attaches this video.

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And I think this is the part where he's trying to move over to the other house. Yes, it looks like it. So still early on in the first couple of months of the sun banished, Gregory 88 started. Yeah.

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I mean, it's just, it seems apparent to me, especially like what granted with the gift of time, everything's happening immediately. And, you know, maybe it worked better, but just in hindsight, it seems like it's kind of losing the plot. Like, what are we doing? We had interactive elements. Now it's just this guy is going over here and this guy doesn't want to do this thing.

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So he does this thing and it's over the course of years. So yeah, it just seems kind of directionless. So I think we're good there. Again, this is only halfway through the document. So if you guys really want us to do the other half, maybe, but I think for now we're good. I think we're good.

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And I'm at a point where I'm like, I just want to read something else right now.

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Yeah. Just, I'm not, I'm not enjoying the story. Let's just move on to something that I enjoy. And if it was like, if it was like so bad, it's good. That'd be different, but it's not that bad. It's just kind of like standard fair for a while. At least we got the red solar cups and a picture of a baseball bat. We did. That was actually really good. I did appreciate that detail a lot.

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And also, you know, to be honest, like as far as visual mediums and online storytelling going, this does remind me how good we have it right now. Because right now we've got like Midwest Angelica, Greylock, The Back Rooms, Mandela Catalog. There's so many creative visual stories happening right now. And a lot of people have nostalgia like, oh, The Sun Vanish was better. This old stuff was better.

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It's like, no, no.

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I think that's fucking certainly came, certainly came from a point of passion. And I can guarantee you, these were younger creators, the guys running this or the guy running this. So if this was what he, I wasn't doing stuff this complex or cool when I was like 16, 17. So imagine where that guy is now with his creative endeavors. Yeah.

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There's so much more that we did not, we didn't even touch the survival logs.

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Touch it between the engine sounds and the red flashing lights. And he says he saw people running down the street, but it was hard to make out who. And also to mention that he's heard gunshots around periodically. So it's kind of pointing towards like a war of the worlds, sort of like there's a ubiquitous takeover. People are getting abducted or attacked by aliens.

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I'm wondering if it's like a giant thing blocking it.

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Just fun. It's creative. I mean, like you said earlier, it's something. It's like adding, like... Just a little thing.

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But because it's not just tweets, you certainly don't think that.

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I couldn't see it, too dark outside, but a wave of heat just came over me. Feels like the temperature increased by like 10, 15 degrees. Just compared to the sound of this video, to the sound of the helicopter footage I posted a few days ago, whatever this was, it was definitely not a helicopter. Then he has a tweet that says, oh, thank God. One of my friends is still alive.

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He just texted me and he attaches a screenshot of a text he received from his friend, Daniel. Dude, please tell me you're still alive. Yes, I'm alive. Where the hell have you been? Why did it take you this long to reach out to me after I called you like 40 times?

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Wouldn't it be crazy if we get to the end of this?

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Where the fuck do you live? Why am I the first person you're coming to? Why don't you fucking go somewhere closer? That was all right. It's going to take me 14 days to get to you, but I'm on my way right now.

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That would actually be like, if something happened and I texted you and I was like, I'm on my way. You're like, why?

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Why are you coming here?

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What tactical advantage does that have?

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Don't you have like a wife?

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He says everything keeps going in and out.

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Which would almost make me think, would you even be able to use your phone? So you're asking the right questions, right? Just keep that in mind. Thanks. You're not crazy. Just keep that tone. Thank you for talking to me like a toddler.

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Are you done? Are you done with your bit? I was talking to Allison outside of the shower and I heard the shower running.

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I'm at your house again. Our house.

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My friend came over and I can't find my wife. What happened?

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This is a Twitter account called MyWifeAnishHelp.

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That's the whole account.

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After that text, he sends another screenshot of text. Okay, so he still says, okay, good, I'm still two days' drive away, but I'm coming for you. I'm not really sure if that's a good idea or not. Why? What have you seen?

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and it's still like midnight.

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Yeah. Anyway, it's a two-day drive away. I'm coming.

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We can read the story.

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What you said was so funny.

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You cannot imagine the ghastly horrors I've seen. The little ghoulies walking around. These unfathomable creatures.

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And now he sends another text that says, now we have another problem. It touches a photo of what appears to be someone outside of his house. So what's interesting here is that the only lights that are on the street, it looks like the street lamps are burned out, but he has those solar lights on, the ones that have a self-contained battery.

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So those things are still running, but all of the like power grid stuff, like street lamps are out around his house.

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I'm saying that like... There are lights over the horizon. That looks like city glow to me. Okay. But you know what? Sure. Hey, I hate to be that guy, but I'm just like, well, can we focus on the man that is on the sidewalk?

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Go ahead and start us off. All right, so we're beginning, of course, with the SunVanish Twitter account, which began by posting...

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Okay, so this guy's been standing completely still with his back toward me. I have no idea how long he's been standing there. Whoever was standing outside is gone now. This was tweeted a few hours after the previous one. And then a tweet that just says, shit, which this video attached.

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Every time. It's creepy. It works. And, like, online, people go hog wild over it.

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No one knocks on my door.

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Especially because, like, the way most people experience this was, like, scrolling in bed at night, right?

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Because it's on Twitter, so you're just reading through it. And then you get to that video. It's like, ugh. It makes you jump.

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I think something just said my name.

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What was that friend of yours, Mr. Floppy, as you called him? Yeah, the guy. Was he there for that paranormal thing?

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preach brother alright there's the first tweet just an account called the sun vanished it just says help and that's the story and honestly that would be a pretty good story if it just ends on help how funny would it be like to just start a bunch of accounts that are like the moon exploded like help

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Yeah, it's Floppy. Was he there?

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He probably was there.

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For those asking, I'm fine. I'm hiding out in my room. Oh, God. Sorry. It got me good.

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It's like a kid who's like, if a ghost comes in, I'll hide under the covers. That's going to help. It's like if there's a fucking alien, I better camp out my room. He can't come up here. My mom won't allow it.

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I haven't heard any more knocking, but I don't want to get anywhere near the front door to check.

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After this, this is not going to help. Oh, boy. Oh, boy.

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It's so perfect that right after you complain, he acts like a 10-year-old child.

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He's like, don't worry, guys. So hold on.

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I think it would make it more believable, I guess.

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I keep pouring clam chowder over the wound, but it just gets more inflamed.

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You haven't mentioned Campbell's Chunky once.

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I'm too hooked in. It feels too right.

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He solves every problem with Campbell's Chunky.

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Oh, I was trying. It was so funny. Cause I was like, okay, a hundred needs to like a hundred needs to take the serious. And I look at the next tweet. I'm like, well, that's going to do it.

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so after that he says if anyone knows anything about what's going on please message me 911 and other emergency lines are not responding and the only radio I have is out in the car so I'm trying to gather as much information online as I can

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It's late in the morning and it's still dark outside. I can hear the tornado sirens in the next county over, but the weather radar is clear. Where is the sun? Then we see our first video.

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Okay. Yeah, because he says every time it picks up, it's like he can't get through to anyone. Yeah.

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All right. Another one. So that was the end of May 4th. May 5th, he says, I just got a text. Another screenshot.

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Because all this is, he's putting in on Twitter, right? So it's like people are supposedly DMing that Twitter account. Yeah. This is followed by another screenshot of a tweet he was tagged in where he says, to be completely honest, I have no idea how to explain this. And this is a tweet where someone says, I don't get it. It's sunny where I am.

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So now he's leaning into the fact that this is unique to just him, right? Or at least a few people. Now other people are like, it's sunny here. And he's like, what? How's that? Oh, that's interesting. So he does bring it back into the... The real world.

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Why is this localized? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So then another one, he simply says, not good, and it's a screenshot again from his friend. Dayton. Dayton, yeah.

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Bad news. I can tell. Bad news is. Don't make that face. What? Don't make that face. I can tell when you're throwing it.

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Good news is I'm closer to you now.

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It's when you do that thing with your eyebrows.

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So it's been at least two days. It's been two. Yes. Because the first text was May 3rd, I think.

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Yeah. It has to because he should have been there by now. Yes. He should have got there yesterday or that day, May 6th.

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uh no yeah it's may 5th so he should be there that day so then after that he says he isn't even that close sun vanish says how far away are you and dayton says probably still eight or nine hours away so he's still he's still quite a bit yeah and if you're out of gas if you're out of gas too you can't fucking eight or nine hour drive what is that how many miles is that hundreds of

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hundreds of miles that's like that's like a several week walk yeah has to be so it's like there's no way you're gonna fucking yeah it's not gonna walk especially because who knows what's out there attacking people and the sun's gone what part of the country this is supposed to be in I don't know I feel like I may be wrong about this but I feel like he's not even in the US I may be wrong about that

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There's photos. I don't think there's any videos.

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I feel like there was something in my head or maybe it was like the creator was from another country or something like that. I could also completely be misremembered.

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Yeah, I don't think it is. I'm probably, we'll assume I'm wrong unless it comes up somewhere. So after this, he says, I'm really conflicted. Some of you say I should go. Some of you say I should stay. What should I do? So he has another Twitter poll where the options are stay safe at home or drive nine hours to Dayton, to which the majority winning is stay safe at home, but not by much.

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Only 54% versus 45. So this is actually a close one. It is a close one, but it's also like you said, your friend's up a paddle. He's up a creek without a paddle, right? But he has a car with gas, so he could hypothetically go get him, but that could be dangerous. Would you come get me? Hell no. Okay.

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Let's do a different, because it would be stupid for me to come to you in an event or vice versa. Right. But what if, what if I was already on the way? I'm like, Hey, let's, let's hang out. So I'm already on the way. And then the sun vanish thing happens. Now I'm stuck. Would you come get me then? Is that new into the thing? Like the, the, the sun just vanished. It's that recent. Yeah.

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Yeah, but there's a reasonable amount of time of me being like, oh, I can't get gas. It's been a day.

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Yeah, at that point I should know better. What the hell are you doing? I'm saying I was on a drive here. Yeah, I would be like, I'll come get you. I would still be pissed about it. You know who else would be pissed about it? Who? Me. Who is driving to your house and then the sun vanishes.

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Neither did I. Look at what you did.

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My attitude would be fear. I'm out of gas and the sun's gone.

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What are you talking about? Can you pick me up? Yes. And I'm like, oh, God, dude. I got Uber, question mark. What? You know what? I would leave you there.

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Are you Tom? Are you going up the road? You're kind of crazy with the sun going out, huh?

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I would be like, yeah, meet me here and I would lead you to a big hole. There'd be a big hole somewhere and make you go walk and fall into it. That's what I'd do.

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I'm tumbling down. I can't get up. I'm like a turtle.

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I'm just getting a visual on how you look kind of scared. You look so quick. You're like straight back out. Anyway, so he attaches that video. Now he can hear people screaming outside. Then says, I'm really, really not sure about leaving now. He attaches another text from his friend, this time beginning with him saying, how are you avoiding detection? Dayton says, I'm just staying in the car.

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All right, stay safe.

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After that, he says, it's been really, really quiet today. I noticed it warmed up after that thing flew over my house again last night. Do you think he's trying to say that, like, the engines of it, whatever? I think that's the implication. Or some energy coming off of it.

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So after that May 7th, he says, I'm really surprised the power stayed on for this long. Only a few outages here and there, but I'm still extremely paranoid that it will go out permanently anytime now. And again, he has a screenshot of his friend's text beginning with Dayton saying, don't worry about me, dude.

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So then after this he says, you all have been bringing up the solar lights outside. They actually aren't solar. I have them on a timer outside and I can't turn them off without leaving the house. I feel exhausted all the time now. I think my internal clock is completely screwed up. The next day, May 8th, he says, I can see a faint light outside my bedroom window.

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Going downstairs to check it out, he attaches this video. This is the faint light?

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Well, it certainly could be, especially because he heard a person screaming outside yesterday. Now, this is right outside of his house, and it's blinking white. And then when it turns red, it's more aggressive, so to speak. And it's the same kind of sound he heard outside of his house and in the trees when he was walking around outside. I'm surprised he had the gall to get out of his room.

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I want to get him. Did you hear that thing? That dude saw like the strobe lights downstairs. He's like, I better go check it out.

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It's just a faint light.

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Yeah, just a faint light. Just a little bit of light.

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Shining directly into his living room. I think someone's trying to give me like a message.

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I don't know what this means. I think it's candlelight. He then follows this up saying, I cannot believe I'm still alive with another screenshot. Which also, I think the name is Danion. Or Danion, not Danion. Danion, Dayton, whatever. Crayon says, you didn't look directly into the red light, right? Yes. You're absolutely sure? Yeah, I'm sure.

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all right so there you go first video is something funny is this something hilarious to you there's there's actually a couple things i think it's kind of funny i like i like how one it's like okay so the sun's gone so he's like completely in darkness in his room but the tv works so it's like god forbid you have a lamp on so it's like how do we get across what the sun is going

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Why? Answer the question. Fraser Road. Okay, we're good. Damn it, don't scare me like that. So then after that, there's another screenshot, the same conversation continued, where Crayon, Danyan, found, is that it, Danyan? Yes, Danyan found this while he was walking and says, I was looking around and just found this.

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And then the writing he found says, beware of headlights. So for one, I feel like if he just said you didn't look at the light, did you? He would know that that relates to it somehow. But sure, whatever. He found he found writing that says beware of headlights.

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Then the sun vanish has another tweet that says sometimes I feel like I have a good handle on this whole situation and I'm thinking rationally and logically. But other times I feel like bawling. Next day, May 9th, he says, Day 9, sorry about that tweet last night. What happened at the window got to me a bit.

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Anyway, I'm currently in touch with a couple of people with some experience and some info on what's going on. So there's a long text chain with a new character on Twitter named Tucker who will become very important later. So this is part of that text chain.

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Thank you for sharing your story. I'm sorry to hear about Flynn.

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Of course. So this is one of the things I found interesting about the sun vanished, right? Because you were right earlier about the whole choose your own adventure route, because every time people vote something, he does it. But then we get these accounts from like people that are out. So I wonder if people voted like, oh, you should go get your friend.

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If things like that would have happened to our main character, he would have came across the writing that says beware of headlights. He would have maybe got a message from someone who was in their house and saw the flashing lights. But because people voted for him to stay home, it's like they switch perspective.

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Would have ran into Tucker rather than getting DM from him on Twitter. So a lot of the stuff in the story is like – Hiding in the room, stuff like that. Very conventional horror tropes, very basic. But I do like little instances like that where it's like, oh, there was some thought put into how information is going to get figured out based on what Twitter audiences want to see kind of thing.

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well I'm in a completely dark room and then all of a sudden you hear this you hear this like ethereal deer outside of his door and I was like I just imagine the sun like this like poking out like he's a like he's an actual being

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So after that, he says, while I've been trying to collect info online, I completely forgot to check in on Daniel yesterday. He still hasn't responded to any of my texts. So then after that, he says, I swear to God, it sounds like someone is banging on my door, but there's no way in hell I'm going downstairs to check. So...

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Similar to what we were making fun of him for earlier, where he's like, oh, I think I heard something outside, and he goes downstairs. He's now like, yeah, that's not happening again. So now he's just completely staying in his room, but you can hear something that's like hitting outside, and it's not the knocking from before. It sounds like something slamming their head onto it.

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You know, it's been 12 hours. It's getting a little weird, Flynn. And then he kills him.

CreepCast

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Well, it says he attacked. Well, yes, I know.

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He wasn't just like, I'm sorry, old boy. You're being put down, girl. But it's like people look into the red lights, and then they become catatonic, and then they just become violent or whatever. So is this like an alien that's at his door? Is it one of these people that have been converted? I don't know.

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What's the scariest alien movie to you?

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There was also, what was it? Oh, when I was a kid, War of the Worlds, the Tom Cruise one. That's a great one. Freaked me out pretty good. That scene where they have like the eye down in the basement looking around.

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And he's going crazy, and he's trying to dig, and he's making noise, and Tom Cruise beats him to death. Yeah, you have to. I rewatched it. That scene's so menacing where he shuts the door, that cut, right before he kills him. That's so wild. That was actually a really good movie.

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Compressed. The sun vanished compressed. Compressed. The sun vanished is a kind of alternate reality story that began on Twitter in 2018. And the premise was a man woke up one day to find that the sun has gone out and it started to incorporate a couple of other Twitter accounts.

CreepCast

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Yeah. And he's just, he's just like, no, or like right after that scene, when the girl, when Dakota Fanning runs away and he opens the door and it's like the Alice in Wonderland shot, but it's blood and veins everywhere. So sick. That was, that was a really cool movie. Oh, the movie rules. Yeah. Do you remember? Okay. We're completely off.

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I think he's looking at me. I think the sun's been watching me.

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Do you remember when everyone's fighting to get on that ferry? And it's like, please take my kids and stuff like that.

CreepCast

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And then immediately they get to the other side and there's more of them and they just like wipe everyone.

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That was so cool. It's a good movie. Anyways, that is a good movie. I hated it for a long time because the Dakota Fanning screaming bothered me, but that was such a minor point.

CreepCast

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Yeah, but it's got that scene where she's like, but she has that scene where she's like, why can't you be normal?

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anyway sun vanished yeah so he's hearing someone hit his door outside that's last thing he says on may 9th the next day may 10th he says it got in i don't know how but it got in and i am hiding and he posts this video I like that. I like the kind of interpretation of this, like, extra earthly being as, like, a light.

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What I was going to say is I think it's a pretty cool inclusion to a Twitter ARG test. I'm not going to look at you. So what's the cool inclusion?

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Like, I mean, sure, it's like a machine they're controlling or something like that.

CreepCast

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Yeah, it's like an anglerfish. Yeah. Darks everything out, come to the light kind of thing. Yeah, it's a...

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And the idea of, like, oh, it's in the house, and then, like, you creak open the door, and you can see the strobing light. And also, too, like, you're getting sucked in more to just the sound.

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It almost sounds like a... You know animals that have, like, sonar? They move by infrasound. Or, like... Oh, like almost like a Geiger counter or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like they're sensing the surrounding. They're looking for prey or something like that. It's just an interesting visual. Oh, the light. The light's the thing I'm afraid of. After he says, I'm sorry if I'm gone for a while.

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I have to stay hidden and keep my phone off. It produces light. I am so sorry. And that's the last thing he says, May 10th. He continues, May 11th, and says, It's finally gone. I think I'm safe now. I didn't stick around to get a good look, but they are big and they can move fast as hell when they want to. I have no idea how, but the front door is unlocked and wide open.

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The alarm never came on either. I guess it got reset during one of the blackouts. Some good news for once, Danion's back. Before you all ask, he seems to be in his right mind. I need to get serious about securing my house. He then attaches a photo and says, it's primitive, I know, but it's a first step and apparently more reliable than my alarm system.

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Let me know if you all have any other ideas to keep my house secure. And he said, go ahead. Make your point. Go ahead.

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Shut up. Cool inclusion. It was that rather than just like basic text posts and stuff like that. It's like, there's a news broadcast saying something's happened rather than like, Oh, why doesn't he have the lights on? It gives me the vibe of like, he woke up in the middle of the night or like what he thought was the middle of the night, even though it's like midday.

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It may or may not be a pyramid of red solo cups. My boy definitely just did cup stacking at his school. Don't worry. If the giant clicking light comes in my room, I'll hear the cups fall. The red solar cups will fall, alerting me and giving me the perfect vantage.

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Go to the replies real quick.

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What's it? Lines on the floor to supplement. Okay, so that one's being serious. Scroll down and just see the first guy. You out here playing Home Alone.

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There we go. Boy, you'd never hear that over the screaming.

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You need to watch Home Alone when all this is over, man.

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Come on. This isn't technically an alarm. That's funny. That's what's funny about this being on Twitter.

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You can always see people being like, this is the dumbest. What are you doing? He has another way of security as well. He says, I have another way of security attached to this photo.

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He's got 10 games.

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Because the point of like a audio alarm is so you have time to do something, right? Get a weapon, escape out a window, but he can't do anything. No. So this just tells him he's about to die. That's all an alarm system would do. It's like, hey, you're about to be decimated.

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He just wakes up from the Red Solo Cups fall and he just...

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I'm running low on food and water. I feel like I could sleep for a week. And then he says, I hope so, and shows more text with Daniel.

CreepCast

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Daniel's determined. It's also funny to imagine that he's like, he's been walking for three days, Daniel, and he's like, oh, I'll bring this gas back to Michael. I just need to suck it out.

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All right, so then May 12th, the next day, he says, I have a confession to make. I've been keeping something from you all. I did Harry gasp. So he says over the course of the last week, I've been increasingly paranoid about someone or something coming into my house while I'm sleeping. And I don't think it's one of those lights. It feels different. I can't explain it, but I can sense it.

CreepCast

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Um, and he looks up at the TV TV's on and it's a news report about the sun disappearing.

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Last night, after I put cans on door handles, I've been waking up to clanging sounds. but I'm not certain if it's real or just my imagination. So now it's time to put my paranoia to the test.

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Yeah, is that powder or salt?

CreepCast

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Putting flour across the floor to see if anything disturbs a few things walking around in the house. Also, he says that it's colder now, so that implies if there was a ship or something like that overhead, it's like gone now.

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Yeah. But there could be something else.

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Yeah. He says, you're right, it's a flower. Because he says, if the flower is disturbed, we will know. That's the end of May 12th. May 13th, he says, a person from British Columbia who messaged me earlier just sent me this. screenshot of what appears to be him in a house. And there's like a silhouette.

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It's like it's supposed to be bright outside.

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Yeah. Standing over off the side of the room. So that's what's happening with that guy. Doesn't say anything else May 13th, but May 14th, he says, I had a nightmare about that picture. Just woke up to more screaming outside. Screaming isn't like last time. Very sporadic. Can't tell where it's coming from. Floor's untouched.

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Keep trying to record the screaming when I hear it, but the microphone isn't picking it up. I think the screaming is coming from the neighbor's house. That's the end of May 14th. See, what's also interesting about this is everyone's too afraid to go outside, so everyone on the street could be dead, or everyone's just like you and hiding in their house.

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And yeah, there's like some weird stuff, but it seems like the news report, I think. Yes. Yeah. But the issue is he's also heard screaming outside, seen running and someone was standing facing away. I mean, if there is by this point, if they're screaming outside, don't go outside.

CreepCast

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Yeah. I think early on. Yes. But at this point, no, but it sounds like wherever the screaming was coming from the neighbor's house. Right. Next day, May 15th, he says, this has been on my mind lately, and it's a screenshot of a text from Danion. SunVanish says, just curious, what year did we graduate high school? What? And then SunVanish says, never mind.

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I don't know. Cause I don't know the logistics yet of like, cause people look into the red light and then they become like violent. They become something else. I guess he could like, they could like siphon his mind or memory or something.

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Like does that connect you to a hive mind where you would know that? Does that make you like a drone where you don't know that? Does it just also make you, cause it's implying that you don't have your previous memories.

CreepCast

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right because yeah that's true so you wouldn't remember like where his home address was and stuff like that so yet some memories are gone at least so he says i know you all don't trust danion i've been reading your tweets and messages but i just can't bring myself to confront him he's my friend i don't have an abundance of those right now the person who sent me the picture a few nights ago hasn't responded flower test hasn't worked yet the reoccurring screaming outside

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I'm about ready to snap. Then says, what? I thought he already knew my address. I knew it was coming. And then it's a text from Daniel where he says, I'm a couple hours away now. What's your address again? Yeah, see, that's suspicious as fuck. Especially after, because earlier Daniel was like, hey, I forget what question he asked. He was like, where did we go? What county?

CreepCast

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No, it wasn't at what street did we live on? Yes. It was what street did we live on? So he knows what, you know, or at least what street they grew up on, whatever. Yeah. And now, uh, so like he understands asking questions. And as soon as the sun vanishes, like, uh, what year did we graduate? He's like, oh, that's stupid. Why would you ask me that? That's weird.

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So then the sun vanish says, I can't believe I'm doing this. Should I trust Daniel to which he sets up a poll and 75% say no. Yeah.

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It'll be so funny if you get to one of these replies and you're like, look at this idiot and it's just me. Yeah. On Twitter eight years ago.

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Who else is afraid? I'm too scared right now.

CreepCast

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Who else is actively peeing their pants right now? And so the next day, he sends another screenshot, this one from Daniel, where he says, Dude, where are you? I've been waiting. And then another screenshot, this time SunVanish says, I'm not even sure anymore. Screenshots a conversation between the two that goes as such. Answer my question. What year did we graduate high school?

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Bud, we don't have time for this. Answer my question. Answer the question. Are you okay? I'm fine.

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So after that, continues to tweet and says, the power keeps going out and I keep hearing noises outside, sometimes far away, sometimes close. After that, there's another video.

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The way that reads to me is like, it's like an entity that's trying to coax him when he says no, it's like, okay. And kind of like turns away. Did you see sinners? No. Okay. I'm trying to reference it to something else. Just an entity that's trying to coax him away. Go ahead, make your bet. Okay.

CreepCast

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Well, Daniel's clearly been.

CreepCast

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It's like, where the fuck did you pick that up from, alien? Glib, glorb, glob, glib. Erm, glibby, glorb. Welp, glorb my glib. Glorb, you're going to want to glib this.

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May 17th. He says, since you all won't stop teaming me about updates, here's updates for you. There's some sass to that. There is, yeah. Well, if you guys won't fucking leave me alone. I haven't slept since the screaming. Ran out of bottled water days ago. Been drinking from the faucet. Very close to running out of food, too. And I hope losing my only close friend will be worth it. Happy?

CreepCast

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God, what a sassy little bitch. Get some sass off of that, man. I just woke up and came downstairs to this. Oh my God. And it's pictures of the flower on the floor has been kicked around. Look at this.

CreepCast

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I'm glad this is so funny to you.

CreepCast

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That looks like a footprint.

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Probably because he was on his way there, right? He says, I don't know if it's Daniel. I don't know if it's someone else, but I don't plan on sticking around to find out. It's not safe here anymore. Packing up and I'm leaving. It's been in the back of my mind for a while, but I'm heading out to the neighbor's house where I've been hearing the screaming. Wish me luck.

CreepCast

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I'm staying low and staying away from streetlights and other light sources using my flashlight sparingly. Okay, so once you hear the screaming, do not go to your neighbor's house.

CreepCast

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Yeah, like what are you going to do? Oh, I've got my cans.

CreepCast

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that's at least a little.

CreepCast

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I've thought about this, but that would actually be, imagine a scenario where the power's out, which he says the power sporadic. So it's not explicitly supernatural, but imagine a scenario where there's like a total blackout and you hear screaming. And then that house has all the lights on inside. That's kind of freaky.

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All right. So here's, like, it sounds like an engine or something outside, and there's, like, lights flickering in the distance, right? Well, I thought, is that on an airplane? It looks like an airplane.

CreepCast

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It goes white to red. You can see it moving through, yeah. He then says, here we go.

CreepCast

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Was that Nick? Hello? Heard you guys screaming. Have you seen the live people?

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It's Glor behind me, isn't it? He says, I found fresh food and water here, checked every room to be sure I'm alone. It's not just in my head. I know I heard screaming. It was ongoing, and I'm glad I came to investigate because now I have food, water, and a safer place to stay. There have been no signs of activity outside whatsoever. So he's going to stay at the neighbor's house now?

CreepCast

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Yeah, because, well, they know they can get into his, right? And he doesn't see it. Well, he knows there is something there, because earlier he mentions, I feel a presence, and now he's seen the flower kicked around. So something can and has been to his house. This house has food and water, and I wouldn't take the time to try to carry it back.

CreepCast

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I mean, it's just like, just a picture from the outside. Also think about that. Think about being like you're in your home and then some event happens and now you're staying in the neighbor's house, but it's dark. You have to go check all the rooms. You've got to clear it out.

CreepCast

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4341.967

It's just, it's weird. It's creepy. Yeah. So the next one's for May the 19th. This is, uh, from our lovely Nate, um, from his notes, he says here, a new character named Tucker or TH mad joy on Twitter says, who has been mentioned once before and has responded to the SunVanish tweets a couple of times, begins posting on his own.

CreepCast

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So he begins posting on his own here, and whoever's tweeting will be denoted. So there's another Twitter account called Tucker that starts his own series during this time. So we're going to bounce back between SunVanish and Tucker. So on May 19th, Tucker says, I don't know what's happening exactly, but something's changed. There's a lot more activity outside than I have ever seen before.

CreepCast

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And if I remember right, Tucker was in Virginia, right?

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

4396.68

Yes, because later, if I remember right, Tucker wraps into each other, the two accounts. But it's from the perspective as if it's multiple people.

CreepCast

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Because yes, because Tucker's info is feeding into the sun vanish, like his screenshots and stuff like that up until this point. So this is also still only been going at this point. It's only been going on two weeks.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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I mean, that was, like, outside his window, though, like, ground level.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

4424.611

sun vanish stuff yeah twitter so so after tucker says that the next day may 20th the sun vanish says i've been taking a break from the internet for a bit trying to recuperate myself my mind is much clearer now than it was before i don't know what the catalyst was but something changed when i left my home so like whatever presence he was dealing with over there he doesn't have to anymore the next day tucker says it's been getting worse i don't have any windows for obvious reasons but i can hear it all i can see a blue light from the crack under my door

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New introduction to a new color. The only thing we've seen so far is white and red. White and red. White seems to be like a searching. Red seems to be like a hostile thing, right? Or like the thing that turns people. So we don't know what blue is. But that line from Tucker is also interesting. I don't have any windows for obvious reasons. I assume he means so he can't see the lights.

CreepCast

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What was that movie Bird Box? Like they would like cover up all the windows. So because if they looked at it, they would immediately like try to kill themselves. Similar thing like don't look outside. Yeah. May 22nd, the sun vanished says what's going on? And then at Tucker says, please message me. So Tucker does not post for a while after this. So next few days will only be the sun vanished.

CreepCast

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So it can be assumed that when Tucker tweets something, the sun vanished is seeing it. They mean like what's going on?

CreepCast

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I mean, maybe the sun has vanished. You may be right that it was a plane like he's looking up. But if when I think screen window, I imagine you just think he's like looking straight ahead. And that's yeah, there's like a blinking light out in the distance. Yeah, I can't sleep. I think the noises outside are gunshots. Some of it, I'm pretty sure, is gunfire. The other noises, though, I'm not sure.

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So then May 23rd, the sun vanished says, I think I discovered something interesting. I need to do an experiment to make sure details soon. So the next day, May 24th, he says, the glass of water is from a neighbor's house I've been staying at. The bottle is from my house about a week ago. Says, is it just me or is the water from my house darker?

CreepCast

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It almost looks like purple. Yeah. Like an extremely dark purple. So something that was in his house, right, is like tainted, the water supply, but the new house is fine. So that's another interesting point. At his house, he felt like a presence, something weird. But now that he's here, he feels better all of a sudden.

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Or maybe they're targeting him, like, specifically somehow. Through this water source or something. So after this, he says, I feel terrible for what I did and said to Danion, which you should not because Danion is 100% a meat puppet at this point. Yes, sir. He is gone. On May 26th, he says, it's too quiet. I don't like this.

CreepCast

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I was walking past the coffee table and I noticed this sticking out from under a couple magazines. Remember.

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Makes me wonder if there's anything else around the house. Notes, papers, anything. I'm going to check and poke around. Found nothing yet. Still no response from Daniel or Tucker. I feel isolated. So also, are we to assume that the last people that live there wrote that note? Yes. Yeah. But things don't work out well for them if the screaming is anything to go off of.

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Right. May 27th, he says, guys, Danion is still alive. He just texted me. Danion says, listen, I know you don't trust me and I don't trust you. If you are still you, you have to get low. Get out of sight, whatever it takes. Fuck you, Danion. So you think this is still it trying to get in his good graces?

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May 28th, he says, I've taken Daniel's advice, but I haven't seen or heard anything yet. Still deathly quiet. Whatever flew over my house before is back. This time it isn't leaving. He then says, this thing is making sounds I've never heard before. The vibrations are shaking the house with this video attached.

CreepCast

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And that's the end of the first post on April. Well, so those were a series of tweets.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

4716.063

Yeah, like it's so strong. Like it's rupturing. It's shaking at the house.

CreepCast

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4722.447

It's almost like... it knows he's in there it's like trying to like shake him out almost like the way you would with like um there's like a bug and like something you're like you know like try to tear like shake physically shake him out of the house like a cat in a box yeah like a cat in a box yeah I couldn't see anything. Is that a normal expression? I was just going to roll with it.

CreepCast

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Shaking a cat out of a box. I don't know what you Missouri people do. I was going to let that one slide. You know when you put your cat in a box and you shake it out? You've got to shake him real hard.

CreepCast

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4761.869

Classic scenario. Shake it out. Oh, cat out of the bag. That's the phrase. Yeah, we're going to update it, though. It needs to evolve into a box. Cat's in a box. All right, there you go. How did I not get the cat out of a bag? That's such a normal expression. Well, no, the expression is now the cat's out of the bag. Yeah, now the cat's out of the bag. Now the cat's out of the box.

CreepCast

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It's not implying it's hard to get the cat out of the bag. It's the line that when the cat gets out, there's a problem.

CreepCast

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That's Schrodinger. That's different.

CreepCast

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4803.327

No. Does he give him cheese? No. What do you think Schrodinger's cat is? He's like, if you eat this cheese, you'll get out of the box.

CreepCast

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Is that not it? What is Schrodinger's cat? Am I saying his name right? Schrodinger. Schrodinger is... Schrodinger. It's a thought. If you get this cheese, you can get out of the box.

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In Schrodinger, there's no cheese. The idea of Schrodinger's cat is that if a cat is placed into a box that cannot be observed, and in an experiment, the cat is killed... Why was the reason the cat was killed again? So where does the cheese come involved then? There's no cheese. There's literally no cheese. There's no cheese at all.

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I mean, maybe they put poison in the cheese, but I have no memory of cheese.

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It's about killing a cat, and that, in statistic-like odds, I thought cheese could have even been poisonous to cats. the cat is equally dead and alive until observed. The whole point it gets used is that in experiments, like, the result is two things until observed is one thing, effectively. It applies to like, like, Quantum physics, yeah. A result is two things until known as one.

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No cheese at all. There's no cheese in the experiment, no. After that, he says, I couldn't see anything out the window, but I quickly snapped a few pictures just in case before taking cover. Then says, I can't believe what I'm looking at and posts a picture.

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Yeah, like a giant pyramid shape floating up in the sky, yeah.

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And it's hard to tell how big it is off this photo, but. It looks huge. Big as a house, at least, if not like much bigger, yeah. Yeah, it looks huge. Next day, May 29th, he says, day 30. It's still there, still making noise. I've locked myself in the bathroom where there's no windows, trying to fall asleep. And then says, I just woke up to this. Post a picture. Ooh, the blue light.

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Of now the blue light fully outside of the door.

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Blue light could be a later stage thing. The initial invasion's done. You would think so. Blue light's part of something else, maybe. Something, yeah. He then says on May 30th, the blue light finally disappeared and that thing flew off and left. He then says, should I leave the bathroom now or stay put for a while longer? The poll by 5% more says leave.

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and again this is something cool that i like like you know it's like choose your own adventure people pick and then the story follows that route right may 31st he says i left the bathroom i'm trying my best to stay calm as i type this but i think there's a dead body in the middle of the street there's no way i'm taking a picture of a dead body that's too gruesome i'm just going to try to avoid it so then two days pass without any updates from the sun vanished or tucker now what's also interesting about this you got to keep in mind is like

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Now it's a little hard to do a video going through the entirety of the sun vanished because the ARG went on for a couple of years and the creator was like replying to people constantly. So it's like reading two years of constant, you know, Twitter use. So rather than doing that, uh, we have had some people on the creep cast team go and buy people. I mean, one, uh, indentured servant. Thanks Nate.

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If you were reading this like I was as it was happening, it's like the picture of the blue light is all you got for 24 hours. And then you got another bit 24 hours later.

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And any time that, like, you see a tweet in your feed from it, you, like, go to the account, like, okay, how many did I miss? And you go back and read up. Yeah.

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June 2nd, after two days has passed, he says, to take my mind off of what is outside, I dug deeper into the piles of books and papers scattered around the house, and I found something intriguing, to which he has a picture of a folder that he found. It says there's a series of photos of the mysterious notebook. So he has three photos in total from the notebook.

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Look at his writing. This is how an old man writes.

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I pray to God that they, at the very least, are safer than I am. I have no real caution or regard for my own life anymore. I can only hope that what I gather from my near suicidal experiments can be useful to someone else at a later date. I either die... And be at peace or get more information. Both outcomes sound favorable.

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a different universe sure it's like a different i mean like you know this is a reality where i woke up one day and the sun vanished right so it's uh yes it's like um a parallel universe so do you think that still does that still work the same way that like gregory 88 does or no I mean, it's like with any horror story, right?

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You can already tell he wrote on the back of it. You know what's really good about this? I, I, this would be the best thing we ever read. If the next page starts, it's like, I found a cat in a piece of cheese.

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So the old man has experiment notes, experiment notes, just in case I forget this is I'm labeling it. I placed several blocks of cheese... No, kidding. I placed several flashlights around the perimeter of the house, testing them at different intensities, the control being no light at all. I believe the entities are more attracted to the flashlights than myself.

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I got back inside before any permanent damage was done. Experiment notes again. Blue lights appeared after day six in the dark. Significance? Question mark? Light sources do not seem to attract their presence, unlike the entities producing white slash red flashing lights. The blue lights are higher in elevation and almost seem to come from a different entity altogether.

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I believe the blue lights will also be more likely to move in unison. However, there is no way to know for certain until they return, if they return at all. Kind of sound like Connor from Love on the Spectrum, don't I? Yeah. It's not a love, it's just a crush.

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I have Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. It finally happened. I was being reckless and I looked into the light. The red light. I feel empty inside. The sun is back.

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I'm wonky. I feel my earthly ties leaving.

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My hands are so tired.

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If it wasn't this, it would have been something else. I'm old.

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It's like, oh, we see the beauty. Like there's some revelation they have, right? Yeah, the sun is back. It's really good. So what was his conclusion off the blue lights? The blue lights showed up when?

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Like, if you write a horror story that's about there's a killer in the house, well, that could happen anywhere, right? Like a murder. But if you write a horror story about, like, the rapture or about, you know, World War or something, like, sure, the setting can be our world, but we didn't go through... Yeah, absolutely.

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The red solo cups.

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Make haste. Raid the stores and get solo cups. The solo cups are back. And the cans. Peel the labels off the cans to make it look more old timey. Like you're a hobo.

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become a hobo whatever you do don't leave a house where you've stacked the solo cups upside down never leave the house also watch dennis the menace on vhs if you find it it has the answers the writer's like oh no oh god the writer with his fucking freakishly long fingers have you seen the guy's hands is

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His hands were pretty rough.

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Glib glorb. I'm like, this motherfucker's an alien already. Holy hell. Fire in the sky?

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So after this, he says, yes, the sun is still gone. I have no clue what this journalist is talking about. Seems like the same talking nonsense Tucker was talking about with his friend Flynn. So we can assume Flynn was also having a similar revelation.

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be kind of okay i almost positive in the mandela catalog they do that i feel like when someone you've never seen i'm i know it i'm friends with the creator of it so i'm familiar of it but i didn't i didn't know i actually know him like really well i've lost this point in the conversation because he's just going to do that whenever i try to talk about i thought that we talked about the mandela we've mentioned it but you've never watched we've never watched it together i was reading this book called it written by stephen king i know him really well

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What I was... What I was meaning is like, oh, well, I talk... I meant that to say, like, I talk about it a lot, which is why... I'm not even going to try to... Well, it's such a... It's such a personal thing whenever you're just like that close with the guy, so it's like... June 3rd, Tucker returns. He says, I'm alive.

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To which, right after the sun vanished, posts a few screenshots of DM conversations with Tucker. So this is sun vanished talking to Tucker again. Yeah, sun vanished is posting his conversations.

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But he's like, I'm going to do a, like a 1800 mile, I guess. I mean, maybe, maybe we don't know details. Maybe like the East coast got hit hard and he hears it's better.

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Yeah, like that whole thing with The Walking Dead at the beginning. It's like France's last holdout. Like everyone hears France being like... Oh, okay.

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So then, I'm so glad to hear from you. Are you okay? Daniel texted me saying to stay low, too.

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Sunvanish says, why should I not let the blue light shine on me? What happened that makes you say that?

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Yes, oh my gosh, that drives me crazy. They're all the time like, it's a specific kind of people on Twitter. They're all the time like, well, dot, dot, dot, you know. Sigh. Sigh, you know, dot, dot, dot, like, no. What are you doing? You're putting sentence breaks in text. Quit that. So it wasn't pretty. Like, explain to me.

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I know he's doing that to build up tension, but it's like Tucker would tell him, like, oh, he exploded or whatever.

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He got condensed into the size of a tangerine.

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What movie is that where it's like, we got to hit the wave or whatever? It's Keanu Reeves.

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You are correct in that it doesn't work in tricking people. You are right. Because like Gregory 88, someone can come across that for the first time. And it's like, oh man, this guy's running into some weird stuff. The most, the best example of that is the one David first did with the dear David thing. Yeah. Or Adam first, whatever his name is. I had a series called first though.

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Can someone please look up? Put it in the edit.

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I'm just saying I want justice on that. Okay, but we're leaving this in regardless of what the solution is.

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Also, Chicken Little is on my mind because I think that's an alien invasion movie. The sky is falling. Yeah, and it turns out it's aliens. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So there's two days without any updates. And then Tucker says on June 5th, just pass the Virginia state line. Hoping my family will be okay. They said his family is just like being sucked up to the sky.

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It depends. He can't take any main roads, because he said earlier, traffic, like, there's a bunch of abandoned cars on him and stuff like that.

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Yeah. I hope he, I assume he's bringing a bunch of gas. Probably. I'd say. Cups full of gas.

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The whole bag is full of cups. Just stacked on top of each other. They're spilling everywhere every time it turns. Oh, God. Gas is getting low. It keeps falling out. If only someone made a container to hold gasoline in.

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And preferably red, like my cups.

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Hoping my family will be okay. Preferably red. If I could have preference, I would make them red. I would make them red, perhaps with a black or yellow nozzle of some kind, so I can see it in low-light conditions, like right now. Hoping my family will be okay. They said they haven't seen anything out of the ordinary.

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Well, that goes back to the whole thing where some people, for some reason, it's localized to a few people for some reason. So he's contacting his family, but everything's normal with them. But for him... But are we saying that the family's in Virginia, though? I don't know. Okay. I don't know yet. So June 6th, Sun Vantage says, the body's just gone.

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Didn't see what happened to it, but it's not in the street anymore. That same day, Tucker says, I took a chance and decided to drive through Indianapolis. That was a mistake. Crawling with headlights. June 8th, the water from this house is dark now. Thankfully, I filled up my bottles with clean water, but I won't be able to stay here much longer after I run out.

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Two days later, The Sun Vanish shows screenshots of text with Danyan, where all that The Sun Vanish says, Danyan, I'm sorry for what I did. Please respond. He does not need to be sorry. And then the same day, 20 hours later, still no response. The next day, June 11th, Tucker says, Been hiding out, waiting for the roads to be clear. Slowly making progress.

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Yeah, that's what was fun about it because, like, I remember as this was happening, like, being like, any tweets today? No. Any tweets today? No. And then it's, like, two days later, it's like, that's the one tweet you get. It's like, yeah, okay, cool. Mm-hmm. Cause there's always, there's always also the fear with these that like the creator will lose interest posted at some point.

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Uh, there were a couple of ARGs. I remember that like got started and then just like, just didn't have any followers, not a lot of attention. The sun vanished. Like day one blew up as that video of the news was like, the sun has gone out, went super viral. Everyone was all over it. So this one had a lot of traction. Um, What's funny is right after I said, oh, I'll do the sun vanish. You do Tucker.

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The next Nate has a note here that says Tucker disappears for over a month.

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So great timing on me putting together that. Schrodinger's cheese, my friend.

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Yeah, Salad Fingers. That's right. The boy, the goat. Adam Ellis. That's the name. Yeah, my brain completely switched those two. Adam Ellis is the guy who did a series called Dear David. Adam Ellis, he does like online web comics and stuff like that. And then one day he just started tweeting that something weird was happening in his apartment. And he was like, I think this place is haunted.

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All right. So anyway, after this, Tucker disappears for a month. Sun Vanish says, thankfully, there's been no activity to take note of. I'm worried about Tucker, though. And then guys, someone's at the window. Next day, June 15th, says, it's too dark to make out anything. I just hear frantic knocking. It could be Daniel or it couldn't be. I guess there's only one way to find out.

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And there's a video tap.

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That's pretty cool.

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That's cool. That's pretty fun. Yeah. I like, too, how you couldn't tell what it was for a minute. It took a second to come in.

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I could have swore I heard just a little murmuring. I like that. That's fun. Sun is back. That's cool. I like that. So then he says they're still there at the window. I don't know what to do. Person is still standing at the window, but they aren't making noise anymore. Oh God, nevermind. They're banging on the window now with this video attached. I think with their head. That's fun.

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Are you laughing at something funny?

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You can have a hint of it at the beginning, like in the distance you see lights and then it shows up later. But like this stuff, the buildup is so nice. The people whispering and the glass shattering and stuff like that, that's fun. That's good. And then he has a final tweet from that day where he says, they're in the house now.

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They're looking for me with a picture attached of bare feet from underneath the doorway.

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Long, lanky-ass fucking hands? Hello? You really got freaked out by those hands. Look at him! Have you seen him? And he's got the greys. He's got the grazed feet. I guarantee you the seven women in our audience are going to love his hands.

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Yeah. No, not his tootsies. His hands. Oh, his hands?

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Yeah, you guys like that.

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I don't think Dream looks like that.

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And for a long time, everyone thought he was just like, he was like putting up cameras in the night. He was like, that's fun setting stuff to see where it would be. And it would get moved around. And then it turned out as part of a horror story he was writing called dear David. But that one did a great job.

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Yeah, I'm sure. He's got the hands. His thing wasn't... I don't think it was as explicit with Corpse because Corpse's whole thing was like... Where did he go? He used to read Creepypastas, right? Yeah, he did. He did back in the day. He read a bunch of these.

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Well, he did music for a while and stuff like that, but I think he dipped from the internet after a bunch of people kind of turned on him. I think a picture of his face got out, and people were making fun of him and stuff, and then he dipped. But he dipped around the same time that was happening.

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Yeah, I'd bring Corpse on with his sexy voice, I think.

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That was pretty good. That was the same register.

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Welcome to Creepcast. Is that what he would say if he was on Creepcast?

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This is Corpse Husband, and I'm on Creepcast now.

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Why would you say that out loud? For the seven women in the audience will remember that. Did you see them getting upset over that? What? The seven women thing. There were a bunch of girls like, there's more than seven of us.

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Got seven. For all of our girlies out there. Yes.

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The reason you were that enthused because it was a point of meanness to a point I brought up that was counter to me. So I did not appreciate that. June 16th. He says been hiding for 20 hours. It's such a long time to be hiding. I think they're gone. I need to check the house first. So he says, where should I check first? Another poll options are upstairs or downstairs. Upstairs wins 60%.

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Like when I first came across it, I'm like, to me, it was like, Oh, this guy that maybe there's an intruder in his house, who knows? And then when it became a horror project, I'm like, that's pretty cool.

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So June 17th, he says, I'm heading upstairs. First pick. The person has definitely been up here. It is a picture of a bloody handprint across the wall. Okay.

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Because it is not going to be human. That is the biggest hand I have ever... If either one of those is the pinky, that's terrifying. This right here is his thumb. There's no way.

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No, it's this, he's doing this. It's the top four. It's the top four, right? So if it's right or left hand, his thumbs off the wall to the side, right? No way. His thumbs. That's good. And also because there's only four fingers there.

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They're still there upstairs. Just snap this before getting out of there. Wait, so they're still up here?

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That's got to be a woman, I think.

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No, that is definitely a woman because we heard her whispering the son's back. That was a person outside, though. Yeah, that was a woman. No, but then they smashed their head through the window. Now they're inside. Yeah. Okay, so you're saying that this is the woman that was whispering the sun is back. I still believe that it's him. Okay, whatever.

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I mean, that could be true, but in the story, it's the girl from outside. It's supposed to be the woman, yeah. So he says, staying low, staying safe. She seems to be in a trance. She was trying to track me down before, but now, even if I'm right in front of her, she doesn't react. Then we get another message, June 18th. I don't think she's a threat anymore.

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I locked her in the room where she's standing. June 19th. Holy shit, I woke up to find the door busted open.

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So I can suspend my disbelief because it is the medium of the story. Sure. Okay, that's fine. And if this was a scenario where they are still running the gambit that this could really be happening, Gregory88...

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I forgive it here because it is about giant aliens that are running spaceships and control lights. That's all fine. With choose-your-own-adventure routes.

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I don't think of it as tweets at a certain point. It's just a medium of the story, yeah.

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I think it might be.

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Yeah, they definitely knew that he was there, so I'm wondering... Reaching for him, heard a noise, runs outside. Then he says, after the car horn, I heard a gunshot. The son vanished, posts some screenshots of text with Daniel.

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Is that you honking outside and the gunshot? Yep. Then, so we have the same problem as we had before. Can I trust you?

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But yeah, I just didn't know if it was like... If you needed that factor or not. Sun Vanished definitely doesn't have the real-world draw because of the scale of the project, but I think it does have a draw because it's such a unique concept.

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It could have also have been maybe the, I don't know, the entity or whatever controlled Daniel for a little bit. And I don't know. But anyway, he posts this video next. So he is now in the car with Dan, like the shot. Is that a desert Eagle? My gosh. Yeah. He's got a massive. Oh no, it's not. It's like a 1911 or something.

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And he was just filming it as he ran to go asshole. So let's get out of here. So now the sun vanishes with Daniel, right? And this is actually when I quit keeping up with it. Cause that happened. And there was a two week hiatus. And I don't think I may have saw one or two things afterwards, but up until this point, I was keeping up with everything as it was.

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Now I'm going in blind. I don't know what happens after this. So two weeks later, July 7th, SunVanish talks again and says, I'm finally back. There's so much that I have to catch you all up on. You won't believe what I've seen. After the last video I tweeted, Daniel and I drove a ways into the boonies to stay away from where all the activity is in town.

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He brought camping gear, so we stayed in a tent out in the woods for the last couple weeks. It wasn't long before we were out of range for many cell towers, but I made sure to still document anything significant. On our way out of town, we noticed what appeared to be a star in the sky. But almost as soon as I pulled my phone, the star disappeared. Then this is the video.

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So one singular star who starts to be videoed fades out. Then says the next day, July 8th, once we got far enough away where we couldn't see the city lights anymore, we set up camp. It was actually sort of peaceful for a bit and it gave Daniel and I plenty of time to catch up. But unfortunately there was some rising conflict between us.

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Daniel isn't a fan of me broadcasting my situation to the internet. He thinks it's dangerous. My philosophy is that I have a chance to reach out to other people who might be in the same situation as I am, but suffice to say, he hasn't been in a hurry to get back to reception. At this point, we had been arguing for days on what to do next until our decision was made for us.

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A storm rolled in, and we saw this. That actually looked really good. That was fun. Yeah, for like what this is, like just a little Twitter ARG put together, like the shape floating across the sky.

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That's cool. So with the activity getting closer to our campsite, I finally convinced Danion for us to pack up and drive toward the closest cell tower. Do I trust Danion? Yes. Do I trust his judgment? I'm not so sure. July 12th, we've been camping out next to the cell tower. Danion took the car and left a few hours ago to find more fuel to siphon.

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While Daniel's gone, I'm free to answer any questions you all have. Nate's note for us says the sun vanished as a short Q&A session, which is mostly not that important to the story, but gets one message from an account or character that will be important later. So this is the sun vanished saying, without knowing your situation, all I can say is to stay low.

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If you are inside, stay away from windows and doors. Good luck to you, to your survival. He shows screenshots of messages from a character named Nat. Nat has been making cursory posts since August 30th, where they have been compiling a survivor guide by taking messages from others dealing with the sun vanishing.

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This will be cut for brevity's sake, and they won't be brought up again until they begin interacting with our characters.

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So Nat, yeah. So actually, Nat had been talking since August, but this is, or sorry, no, we're talking in July. The next month, Nat will make survivor's guides, like stay away, do this and stuff for the sake of brevity. Sure. for whatever that matters on the show. We're not going to be going through all of them, but just know that's, like, Nat's biggest role. There's so many of these two.

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There were Q&As he would do where it would be, I do remember some of this, where, like, The Sun Vanished would answer, like, dozens of questions about, like, what's your name? Is your family okay? And it'd mostly be like, I don't know.

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I don't think it would have done as well. Yeah. Because I remember everyone posting the video clips early, like, when it began, like, making a deal out of it. I remember that. And his next string of tweets began the next day on May 1st. Yes. So on May 1st, he says, It's still dark. The news said it would be back to normal by now, but it isn't. Now the news isn't even coming in. This video...

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It's that element, but it's for like an alien invasion. Yeah. Yeah. So July 13th, I just woke up and Daniel is still gone. And then he says no response in close to 12 hours and shows a screenshot of a text message he sent to Daniel that just says, where are you? July 14th, I'm stuck here with no car, no gun, just a tent and the essentials.

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July 15th, I only have 38 hours of battery left if Daniel doesn't come back with the car.

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Guys, we have a new problem. I can't see anything, but I can hear someone walking around my tent. And then, oh god, never mind, now I can see with this video. Okay, I got to say... I really like the aliens being depicted as flashing lights that make clicking noises. Something about it so mechanical, so weird.

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I think it's a white light, especially because earlier, like, blue night, I don't know if they said they don't make noise, but that was the white light noise for sure.

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Yeah, that's true. Then says, this one is different from the others. It's just wandering aimlessly and flickering at random intervals. I'm fighting the urge to go check it out. I know it's too risky, but I only have five hours of battery left. Not a single sign of Daniel returning and not much else to lose. And then he does a poll to either stay in the tent or investigate. Oh, they said yes.

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Okay, so they voted leave.

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Then he says, I followed it into the crops to get a good look at it. The crops were about six to seven feet high, so that gives you a good idea of how much taller it was. Oh, so that was like huge. It's like 13 feet tall. I mean, it's at least, I mean, I would say, yeah, 13 feet. It was fucking huge. July 17th, next day, he says, less than two hours of battery left.

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I'm powering down my phone for now. Wish me luck. Then the sun vanished, disappears for two and a half months. Pretty crazy. That's such a wild interval. But at the same time, Tucker's story picks back up. So then Tucker says, Hey, everyone.

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Or this photo is just like TV.

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I think that's what it is. That's why he's trying to travel to the West. That's why he's going out there. Yeah. Yeah. Tucker leaves as quickly as he came and goes dark for almost three months.

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Then after that, it says that on July 31st, it's the first time that Nat becomes important outside of world building. Nat says, poll, should I try to message Tucker and interview him? And there's a yes or no poll with yes winning by a landslide. So on August 6th, Nat posts their interview messages with Tucker.

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And then you read over it a second because, again, we assumed it was a typo. But when he says that one thing where he was like, I miss miss my family. That's interesting. It's a sign of drinking contaminated water. Tucker says, I'm fine. It isn't that big of a problem. I'll read now. Good.

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So after that, he says, been trying to conserve battery life since the power keeps cutting out. I'm worried it will go off and never come back on. TV signal is gone. The noises keep happening outside and I can barely keep track of the time anymore. I'm honest to God terrified. I am so tempted to go outside. Should I? I remember this when it was happening.

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What happened to them?

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That's suspicious. Okay. Have you seen what the strobe's headlights look like? Kinda. I've been able to make out a silhouette of one of them.

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Can you elaborate? What did it move like?

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If it has the shape of a person, did you see its head? I don't know. Did it chase after you? How tall was it? I don't know. How did you get away?

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14? Oh, no. All right. Well, that's Unvanished, everyone. Enjoy.

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That explains a lot of, like, some of the... The baseball bat, the cups, everything. Yes, absolutely.

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Cause to him, 14 isn't comedically young for someone who's trying to put together a survival.

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But you know, like when I was 14, I knew that's how you describe like a novice when you're 17, a 14 year old who now is like a child. And Tucker's a fucking 38 year old guy. Yeah.

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It's interesting. I can't tell if it's the writing or part of the story that she's like, oh, well, why have you been repeating stuff? And he's like, girl, you'll get it when you're my age.

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Exactly. Trust me.

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Go through a divorce and you'll be repeating a lot of stuff. Try two lawsuits with one ex-wife. See what happens.

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So everyone was talking about it and he would put polls up. So everyone would vote. And what was really fun about this is people would get into fights with each other in the replies. Like I said, because he would do a bunch of these polls. So he'd be like, should I check this out or whatever? And people would be like, stop voting. Yes, that's stupid. You shouldn't go over there. Blah, blah, blah.

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Yeah, it'd been a while. So the sun vanished returns September 30th and says, I'm back. It's been a long time, but I'm back. I don't have much time, extremely low battery, but there's a car close by. I can see it. And then says, for what I can tell, the car door is open and dinging, meaning the keys are still in the ignition. Sends a picture.

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You can see like the car, the car lights out in the distance. That's a cool pic. And he says, Oh God, it's warm here. There's a hotspot, but it's my one ticket to getting my phone charged and getting away from here. And then he posts this video. So it's him seeing the car out in the distance. What is this kit? He's trying to charge. It's a charging kit for, I think, his phone. Yeah, I think so.

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It also looked like it had a light on one of them. Maybe that's why he used it for the light. Probably something he got off of... That's pretty menacing to see that car just open. Because it's been like months now, right?

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Yeah, you're running through the woods. It's like, oh, lay on the grass. Boom!

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Well, it says get down. Or just get low. Maybe you're playing dead or something. Maybe that's why it works. Two full blast blue gamma rays in the back can't be good for you. He's walking around, he heard something overhead, and then the blue light shined down. So I think the blue light definitely comes from the ships. Is what it looks like.

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So it's just a fun way to incorporate, you know, audience into it. Cause like you said, he's clearly killed the gimmick that this is really happening. Cause it's the universe where the sun vanished.

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You ready to meet God, kid?

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His mom's car. It's like, Mom, can I go park this in the road? I won't drive it. I'll just move it a little bit.

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Mom? I feel weird. Okay, so then on October 1st, so the next day, he says, I have to get to a colder location. I promise I'll explain everything. Then, all right, I'm not in a cold spot yet, but where I am will do for now. The ships have certain identifiable flight patterns. Yeah, so in the time he's been gone, he's learned some stuff.

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You can tell where they tread often by the temperature of the area, hot spots. Where they don't go as often is much more safe, cold spots. After I powered off my phone to save the last little bit of battery juice, some followers of the Twitter account figured out where I was and came to rescue me.

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They brought me to their shelter and had food and clean water, so I decided to live with them for about two months. Then, I think the flight patterns changed, and we got found out. And they didn't make it. That's why I've had to learn how to evade the ships on my own for the last few weeks or so. Okay, so that's interesting because it's like...

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He, maybe the reason that there was a car parked out here is like, there was like a group of people, like a shelter or something. Maybe that's one of their cars who tried to get away or something like that.

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Uh, go through and, uh, trim it down to the big points. So this is like, it is comprehensive for everything that happened in the sun vanish. But as you said, compressed.

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Like there was an initial fallout where everyone's dead.

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Yeah. Next day he says, finally found a good cold spot. There's something that I've been avoiding talking about. When Daniel left, he said he would come back, but he never did. He basically left me for dead out there in the woods. I didn't really say anything here, but I was so angry at him, I couldn't believe I trusted him. But when I turned my phone back on, I got a flood of texts from him.

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Yeah. It makes it a little choose your own adventure thing for people to watch, which is why a bunch of people got really into it.

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He shows a picture of those texts.

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I think he's, well, he said the few times my mind was clear. I think maybe what happened, the reason he wasn't message answering those message earlier and stuff like that is because he maybe didn't fully succumb to the red light, but I think he looked at it for a bit and I think he got messed up. It did something to him. Yeah. Which explains why I didn't answer the messages in the first place.

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And then the Sun Vanish says, I wish I had responded to Daniel earlier. And then some messages that he sent to Daniel said, hey, listen to me. You aren't a goner. You are not a goner. I'm going to come find you, okay? Please tell me if you're reading these. To no response.

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He's dead. I think he certainly is. I mean, he's been gone for two months. Like... Good luck. He then says his coordinates are really, really far away, but his coordinates were like up in the sky.

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But I have to find him, even though I'm still upset at him for what he did. I can't leave him in whatever the hell situation he's gotten himself into. I can't move on with that on my conscious. I mean, you'd have to assume that he's just gone.

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stupid you know uh when you turn your phone on and those messages are from a month ago and you're like i gotta find him from yeah from from two months ago this is where he was two months ago yeah good luck i bet he's still there i bet he's i bet he hasn't left and nothing's found that didn't read like a creepy suicide note at all absolutely not he's probably fine two months he's clear he's been i bet that guy a okay he's like i got into cold plunging

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I've never been so mentally clear before my life.

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I found this new crypto you really need to get in on.

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It's called BlueCoin. BlueCoin. October 4th. There's something else that I haven't told you all. I neglected to mention it because I had no idea what I saw or heard, but now I have actual proof. And he shows a video. Military jet? Military jet? Or those ships can truck if they want to.

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I remember people getting violent.

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Oh, of course. Of course you have to. Why are you all stupid? This is why we, this is why this country is falling apart.

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but it does sound like the audio is definitely that of a military jet but it's yeah something flying overhead he says about a month ago I saw one of the ships flying nearby and after a loud noise it suddenly exploded and then came crashing down I bet you're right it is militaries like shooting them down or something again war of the worlds like you know people fighting back honestly at the time I thought I was hallucinating or something but I'm fairly certain I wasn't that's definitely not one of the ships that's a jet yeah you're right two days later Nat returns

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That would be fine. In this world where... I mean, what else? I mean, what else do you fucking have, dude? What's the solution? You're by yourself. You're talking to a 14-year-old on Twitter who is the only person putting together information to help people.

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Tucker, what do you mean by that, Tucker?

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Speaker 3 I do legitimately there. I can't remember. We'll come across it, but there's one poll that I think was something about like, should I help this man or whatever? My brain may be filling in this memory, but there's some replies like it's all you bleeding heart liberals.

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I don't think I should answer that question, Tucker. On October 8th, the sun vanished says, been slowly but surely making my way towards the coordinates. Bro. Hunter, I mean this with love. I would not come to anything you say.

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Are we talking about in real life or this specific scenario?

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I think it changes. That may have been a suicide note. That may have also been like last known location. I don't know. But I think it changes dramatically.

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If that's what it is, then I don't think he would say anything. If that was a cry for help, I think he would have been like, This is the last place I'm at if I'm still alive. Does it also not read like a trap? Yes. If that's the case, here's my longitude.

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I'm like, Oh, I get it. It's like where you live. It's like, okay. So I'm going to punch this in, find the address. That's three feet away. Exactly.

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I have buddies who do that, too. They'll give me pins. They'll, like, drop a pin for a place. It's like, oh, Angie's Barbecue. Yeah. Better drop that pin. Whoa. Hey, I'm here. Oh, I'll meet you there at 1500 hours. Whoa. It's like I'm in an alternate universe. Whoa. I'm going to do Stolen Valor.

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Yeah. I've had people do that. It's like, it's ridiculous.

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I get it. I get it. Well, you're very cool. Yeah. So the sun vanished and says on October 8th, I get paranoid when I'm outside of a cold spot for too long. He said, it's weird. The closer I get to Daniel's last location, it keeps getting hotter. I'm on fire.

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Whoever owned this car previously, they had an adult side sleeping bag and a child side sleeping bag in the back with a picture attached. That is great world building. I like more of that. Like you come across a baby garbage with like an adult and a child.

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like dude it's okay we'll be all right my god yeah it's not that serious so uh they make a poll that says i'm so tempted to go outside should i and uh the majority of people vote yes just like the top reply is another poll from a separate user which asks is this person white

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That's pretty creepy.

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They got sucked up or they got, they succumbed to the red light or whatever.

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Didn't get low enough. Exactly. Yeah. Didn't get, didn't get near the ground. And also like just the hauntiness of like the car door was open. Right. But it was recent. The battery was from your car. It was digging. Yeah. Pretty creepy. And there was a blue light right above. Yeah. That's creepy. That's great. Damn. That's, that's an awesome element. I really like, you know, it'd be screwed up.

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It's like the moment he drove away, like, yeah, exactly.

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Yeah. I'm going to give you a latitude and longitude.

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Walk that way, honey.

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You like send the kid towards the ship. Yeah. Don't walk that way. Close your eyes. Walking count to 7,000.

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One, two. He just eviscerates.

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He's holding the kid up by their legs like, come and get me. We're here. We're here.

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Okay, so it really hit me just how many people have been impacted by all this. How many friends, how many families? I wish I could do more to help. Yeah, just now. Yeah, it took you this long. So then after this, the sun vanish disappears for two weeks. Tucker returns a week after his last message, and Nat makes an important post two days later.

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So two days later, Nat has a post, which is a screenshot of a message received from a user who believes they know where the sun vanish is hiding.

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Mm-hmm. She's 14. Yeah, I'm 14. So someone tells Nat, hey, Nat, I think I know where the sun vanished might be. Last several weeks, there have been a lot of fighter jets flying around where I've been staying. Turns out there's an Air Force base not but 10 miles from me. Do you think the sun vanished is near an Air Force base? Well, that's kind of vague.

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There's several, yeah.

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The Air Force got him, guys. He's safe. He's safe. And then after that, we get a post from Tucker on October 14th that says...

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It just instantly.

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vaporize it mutilated too it's just like it's like the war of the worlds yeah well maybe not as quick i wish i wish it was that quick man they're just like yeah just fucking turn them into a pile of goo or something like that yeah just melting it's like it like it burns them maybe so like the blue light scans and if you play dead it doesn't like kill you intensify yeah that's still kind of ambiguous i think that that's kind i think you're safe to assume that

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Yeah. The white and red lights are like the ground units. Yeah. And then the blue light, it really is war of the worlds. You got like the big tripods and then the little ones going around.

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Okay. So this older guy who's like, listen, kid, you gotta, you gotta be on the road. Like I have is like 21 years old. We don't know.

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Because his family he's trying to get to is his parents.

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Yeah. You have to look. So on October 20th, the sun vanished says just read Tucker's updates. Oh my God. Been staying in another cold spot. This one clearly hasn't been traveled in a long time. The trees are dying here. That's an interesting, you know, I guess. Yeah. Cause there's no sun, but it's like when they, when there's a hotspot, there's like an artificial life, artificial sun.

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Uh, he then says used to have these kinds of evergreens in my backyard when I was a kid. It's disturbing to see them dying. Now shows a picture of that. And then on October 26th, so six days later, he says, just drove past a junkyard full of cards. Something odd I noticed. All of the mirrors were gone. That's interesting. Are people salvaging the mirrors?

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I don't know. Yeah. That would be a cool defense mechanism if they're all about lights and seeing stuff. If you could just reflect yourself, you could get away from it. So the gnat posts a photo of a strange message they receive, which the sun vanish retweets. I am a Russian soldier camping out of an old military base and recently killed a what we call them. Thank you. Or demon lights.

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We shot a ship out of the sky in an old World War II anti-air... What? whatever in a anti-air cannon uh and it attacked our camp we killed it with a t14 armada armored tank we quickly learned contact with the body equals death so hold on when one of the thing when one of the light things touch you you die i don't know i think it says like physically but i'm not sure okay more are coming.

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Some are bigger than others. And a mother ship is right above our base and it will crush us. If we shoot it, please acknowledge this for, it might be our last stance. So some of the English is weird cause it's Russian a little bit, right? Yeah. Um, So they call them demon lights, which is a fine name. That works. I'll take it. Demon lights. The November 29th, 2018.

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I had a dream about Danion, but it was more like a memory, I guess. When we were little, we would climb into this giant dead tree in our neighborhood. The branches could barely support our weight, so we would kick and push each other's branches until one eventually would snap. I can't help but feel like, like I'm already too late. Haven't heard a word from him. The repetition right there. Yep.

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Something feels really off, but I can't put into words why. Wait, what the hell do you all mean? I've been gone for a month. It's only been a week or so. Oh, interesting. Yeah, that guy's gone. He's fucked. So November 30th, he says, I don't remember how I got here. And he shows a picture. Picture is of such as dead grass. That or is it a river?

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He says, I'm racking my brain to try to think, think of what happened. I wish I tweeted more so I could remember. But you guys are right. It's been a month. December 1st. I feel like that's what I've been doing. Napping. I have so little energy, but I should definitely check my camera roll. These were taken four years ago. For some reason, some reason, they were in an album called Remember.

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Well, I imagine the reason they set up that poll is because like the horror trope of like only a white person would go outside.

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Four years ago. Okay, the things to remember. Roadway, a deer, and a wall. So that's probably priming something that'll show up later, but they were in his camera from four years ago. That's interesting.

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so then says i know i sound crazy but it feels okay to stay here i think here is safe next to the water next to the waters yeah he's 100 gone to the water but you can because as proven from earlier when he goes to the different house and drinks the other water you can get over the water stuff yeah he just needs to get the fuck out of there yeah yeah tucker says at the sun vanish you need to leave now you are not safe this is exactly what the water is designed for they're gonna come for you

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SunVanish then quote retweets that and says, something is keeping me here. I try to leave, but I just come right back, back. I don't know what to do. Next day, December 2nd, the SunVanish post a cryptic photo. This picture, what am I looking at? Looks like he's seeing the sun. Oh, you see? The sun is back. You post that and it says, I can't believe I'm alive. I'm alive.

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It took everything out of me. I kept forgetting why I needed to leave, but you all helped me. Thank you. Thank you. I understand now what people mean when I hear about close encounters with these things. It isn't just a light. It looks into you. Then the sun vanished. Post a screenshot of a conversation with Tucker. You all right? Yeah, yeah. Just a bit scraped up.

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I meant mentally, not physically. Oh, I don't know. I feel different, I guess. I swear on my life that I didn't look into the light. It's just that I've never been this close to one before.

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Black people die first in the horror movie. Yeah, or, like, no, the joke is that, like, you always hear, like, white people in a horror movie are like, oh, what's that noise? I'll go investigate. But any other person, like, I'm getting the keys and leaving. Yeah. The joke is that white people are, like, oblivious to, like, walk into danger. Right. So when this person's like, should I go outside?

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But what did you mean by this is exactly what the water was designed for in your tweet?

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December 4th, the sun vanished says, why do they want us alive? The blue light from the ship seems to be an exception, but I've had plenty of narrow escapes from the water, the headlights and the ships, and I can't be the only one. I mean, I'm crafty, but not that crafty. What the hell do they want with us? Nat then posts an interesting message they received from a chemical battalion member.

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First off, love that profile picture. That profile picture is so funny. It's so funny to imagine these people messaging a 14-year-old girl. She's the expert, dude. Me with the military messaging this child. Also, you can tell I'm in the military because of my profile picture. I am in the military. This is clearly a military picture.

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It'd be funny if, like, the Russian guy earlier, his profile picture was, like, the hammer and sickle.

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It's just Stalin. Yeah. Hey, Nat. I'm a part of the 92nd Chemical Battalion, or at least I was. I was on leave when this mess went down. Me and some of my buddies made our way back to Fort Gillum to reconnect with my unit. That was a mistake. There wasn't really much left here, and we saw a whole mess of strobe lights, just, like, wandering about looking for survivors.

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We took off and it's been months now from what I can tell, at least. Supplies have been low, but we've rationed what we could. Advice, do not drink the water, even if it has been boiled. My close friend, Private Logan, boiled the water and drank it. We had to leave him. Started acting weird. It hurts me to say that. I don't know how long I have left before my next scavenging run.

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Apparently people have been hearing jets. Hopefully this ends soon. Stay safe. It says nap post a couple. This is again, a note from Nate nap post, a couple more screenshots of messages they received, but nothing too important. Besides this, they do not make another important post until the new year.

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Some vantage for the next few weeks does a Q and a, that doesn't have much importance to the story. Then on December 29th, the sun vanish says, I have some news on my progress. I'm on a highway. It's the quickest route to get to Daniel's coordinates.

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Just trying to find him. I'm on a highway. The quickest route. Only problem is that the highway takes me through a city and he shows a picture. Oh, there's streetlights. Well, I guess he said the power's in and out. In and out. It goes in and out. Yeah. It's just always nighttime.

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He says, it's risky, but if I take the chance going through the city, it will take much less time than trying to go around. What do you guys think? And then he does a poll between going through the city or not. Going through the city wins. Now, December 31st, he says, city it is. I'll start driving again soon. Wish me luck. And then Ghost Ark for over two weeks.

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And that was the last post of the year. That's the last post of 2018. Yes. All right.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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So here we are. It was taking a biblical amount of time. Yes, January 11th. So after the sun vanished, went dark for two weeks. Nat then post a screenshot of someone sending them a photo of the sun seemingly being back.

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The top replies, like, this is a white guy.

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The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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So then after that, January 19th, a little over a week later, The Sun Vanish posts a picture with the message, I was really nervous driving to the city limits, but I'm here. And the only picture we see is of what appears to be a pedestrian walk sign that's been hit, knocked over.

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After that January 20th, SunVantage says, I'm being extremely careful, driving slow with all the lights off to avoid unwanted attention. No signs of life yet, which puts me really on edge.

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The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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After that, Tucker quote retweets Nat's previous post and says, what the hell did I just wake up to?

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Then after that, Tucker says, I've been frantically messaging Nat all day. No response. No tweet since late last night. I'm really worried. Look, I just got to get back in the groove. Got to remember, the sun's gone. It's not good.

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Black water, red lights, stuff happening. Yes, yeah, a lot of people being really confused and scared. It seems that something bad's happened to Nat, or at least that's what it's implying because Tucker says, I've been trying to get a hold of her and I can't. Anyway, the next day, January 21st, Tucker says, I don't know what to do about this.

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At the same time, The Sun Vanished has a message where he says, Side note, I noticed a new photo in that album. I don't recall taking this. The picture is of what appears to be a car out front of his house. So this is the original walkway from his house that the series started at, where he saw the guy standing on the walkway.

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But there's a picture of a car out front, but he doesn't remember taking that picture.

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At first it was like super fast pace. And then there's one point where it drops off for a while. And that's when I think I quit keeping up with it. So May 2nd, there's a video where the caption is. I went outside. I saw something out there. I can't really explain, but I can show you. And then it leads to this video.

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Yeah. So January 26, Tucker says he posts some screenshots of a bleak conversation with Nat. I'm here, Tucker. I'm alive. I got out. Are you okay, kid? Are you hurt? What happened? I forgot about this whole dynamic where Nat's 14 and Tucker's like 21. So he's like a grizzled veteran. Tucker's an 89-year-old man.

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Yeah, she's literally 14, right?

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yeah so the and the average age of our viewers yeah of course yeah of course nat i'm so sorry i'm so sorry and then after that it continues in another screenshot it hurts a lot i don't know where i am now but it's cold and dark and i'm alone do you have any means of getting into another building a neighbor's house anything no i tried all doors are locked i tried breaking a window but it's way tougher than it looks

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I tried breaking a window but it's way tougher than it looks. Like they walked up just ow. That didn't shatter as easily as I thought it would.

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So after that, Tucker has a couple tweets where he says, I can't believe this, but I'm going.

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The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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This is the guy. This is the same series where the son vanished. It's like I have his last coordinates before he got sucked up by the mothership. I'm going to go get him. Yeah, it's definitely not worth it. Okay, so then a few days later on the 29th, SunVanish says, as I expected, the low fuel warning just dinged. Got my flashlight, bat, phone. I'm on foot now.

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The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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I forgot his only means of defense was a bat.

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The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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That was great. And the cups. That was his defense mechanism. The cups. Which, again, a 15-year-old further back.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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And then also you have to, um, you have to do it at night and pretend like the sun's not coming back. Exactly. Just like that now. Yep.

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The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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Get a friend, uh, find their last known coordinates. Try to go there. You've just some of the midnight man.

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The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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you've just let the midnight man into your home um then tucker tweets that same day and says i'm traveling the light that isn't too far away compared to my last trip about 500 miles or so god damn people are just so 500 miles not too bad they're doing this across the entire country 500 miles she's not that far away she's not too far

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I only have to drive through five hot zones where the giant pyramids from Evangelion are flying.

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Yeah, the radiation can't find you down there. A couple weeks later, on February 15th, we get the next update where Tucker says, All right. I'm at the address Nat sent me. Looked around and can't find anything.

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The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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We're back in Greylock territory. This does feel like Greylock. Walking through the woods. I miss Greylock. Greylock's so good, dude.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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That's kind of rough looking.

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The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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I mean, maybe, right? I mean, yeah, if someone was living there. Someone has to have been in there.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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Could be. Didn't she say she was in the basement? Possibly.

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The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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This is like a living room kitchen counter. You see the cat in the middle of the picture? Yeah, with the eyes. Hello. That's a cool cat. Hi. That's her mom. That's Nat's mom. She became a cat. I gave birth to a human. That's what the aliens do. They turn people into cats. Meow.

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Five days later, February 20th, Tucker says, I'm trying to think of any possible reason as to why that is MIA.

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It's a pretty good.

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so for people it's just a little like a woman trembling yeah you just hear a woman trembling it's like the phone's pressed up against the door you know for like For this being a series of tweets we're reading every now and then, it kind of gets a little monotonous. But those videos, they pick it back up. Yeah, I mean, it was the same thing about Gregory88.

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Oh, I bet that's why. But she had to kill her mom, and the whimpering was Nat. She's just crying in the basement. Instead of the mom. Yeah. Yeah. If you had to kill me, Hunter, would you be crying in the basement afterwards? What'd you do? I got possessed by the sun or whatever. No. You didn't let me finish what I was going to say. Okay, what if you just murdered me and I didn't do anything?

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Would you be sad? I'd be a little sad.

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The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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Yeah, as long as there's just some level of remorse.

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I think so. No. I have to build up to it. I think if I think about really sad stuff and try to gain myself, it could happen, but it would take a bit. I don't think I can do it. What would be the sad thing you think about? I don't know. Probably like someone dying. Maybe you dying. That'd make me sad. I'd be sad if you died. What would your sad thing be? Probably like the end of like Barley and Me.

CreepCast

The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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The horse's heart's too big.

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That is a... Secretariat, I forgot. Because in real life, Secretariat had a massive heart. It was misgrown. It's what let him have so much...

CreepCast

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energy on the track or whatever uh but in the movie they frame it as like he just cared too much about race yeah they were trying to do like a little whoville grinch thing his hall three three sizes too big for a day yeah next day february 21st sun vanish says oh god i just got back to where i parked there are four people standing in front of my car with their backs facing towards me i won't be it is funny to imagine like he's just tweeting

CreepCast

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Yeah. Yeah. Like they do it later. They talk about everything after the fact, but it's also, you know, it's a choose your own adventure, ARG, whatever, but it's just a funny visual him in the car. Like I don't know what to do. It feels very British to me for some reason.

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I can't explain why.

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Like, in my mind, the idea of someone, like, tweeting in a life-or-death scenario sounds like something someone from the UK would do.

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Can you fucking help me? Because in the UK, it's like, if you defend yourself, it's like a life sentence. But if you murder someone, you're just, like, given probation for murdering for five months or something like that. It's a bit of a telly-willy, isn't it?

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I guess that's why they'd be like, well, I don't want to go to jail forever, so I guess I'll tweet. That's the one thing I can do. I won't be able to outrun them. I have to get to the car, and that's the only way I can escape. Doing my best to quietly approach, fill up the tank, and get in the car. And then...

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This is such a funny tweet.

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The Sun Vanished | Creep Cast

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He says, I'll do my best to quietly approach, fill up the tank and leave. And then the next tweet reads, they broke my arm. This hurts so much. Holy shit.

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Oh, then we get a video of him next to the car. It's like a PT cruiser. I wonder who's getting attacked.

CreepCast

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It looks like he's on like the road, I think. He's in a parking lot. He's in a TG Max parking lot. They are right there. Look how close they are. He thought he could quietly fill up a gas tank there.

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He filled up the gas tank as he's opening the door. One runs up, snaps his arm with their bare hands. He then manages somehow to get in the car, shut the door, and then they can't get into the car. You can just hear him hitting on it.

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i really like that the fall in your arm is crazy don't do that i don't like that i do i do it like that scene of him being in a parking lot and then there's like people standing next to the car and like hoodies i this is very like um I don't know. There's got a, there's a, a spirit to it. I like, like this guy just started writing a horror thing on Twitter.

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And then he's like, Hey guys, I need you to come out to TJ Maxx tonight. I need to film this scene for it.

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We're going to hold a piece of celery next to the mic and I'm going to go whenever you get close. All right. After that, Sun Vanish continues and says, how the hell do I treat this? The last time I broke a bone was before I can remember. Thank you for all your help and support. I've made a splint and I'm trying my best to rest now.

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I drove to the outskirts of the city, but I need more time to heal up. I feel so tired and I'm still in pain. I need as much strength as possible for continuing towards Danion. Also, I caught up on the Tucker and Nat situation. I'm so glad they're together now. I'm so fucking tired about hearing Danion, dude.

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Yeah, he's still, I forgot he's still going to, he's going to his coordinates before he got like pulled into space. Danion's dead. Danion is gone.

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A few days later, February 26th, Tucker says, We're on the road now.

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Can you not be dismissive for 12 seconds?

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Didn't we find out that he's actually like 23 or something? Did we make that up? I can't remember if that was part of the story where we made that up. I don't know.

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I mean, he's right. If you have a bunker, that would be the place to go. However, you're also correct. I got the ick. I got the ick. I got the ick. Nearly a month later, March 17th, the sun banner says, I'm so close to the coordinates now. It's been a long time since I've really thought about it. For the past few months, it's been a mindless mission.

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But I don't know if I should put myself in an emotionally vulnerable mindset again. Whatever happens, happens. So his arm's still shattered, right?

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Daniel! Where are you?

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Can you hear me, Daniel? Okay, so... So the next day, Nat posts a screenshot of a DM she received that says this.

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And also like that same flashing red light that he saw before is now in the treetops. Same thing from before. Go ahead. No, go ahead. You got something.

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Yeah. Yeah. Like, well, this is a DM that Nat got. So this person in contact with the colonel is messaging Matt. Right, right, right. But all of the messages that Nat gets are like,

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i forgot nat was doing this survival book so like people are messaging them but all of the information is like whatever the author's understanding of the military is because it's like the rest of the squadron was taken away it's like okay anyway april 1st so nearly half a month later now post another screenshot

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Which is fucked during a pandemic. You're going to be here soon, asshole.

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Greywater | Creep Cast

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Yes, I have a secret. I want it deposited. I know you do.

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The water will enter you and your secret will replace it in the water. No man can discern its murky depths.

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But be warned. Once I've taken custody of your secret, you can never reveal it. No one will ever know. But there will be no confidence or confession or chance of redemption. Are you sure this is the path you wish to take? I am.

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I said he's able to bring her back.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Well, non-Christian, essentially. Is that a red flag for demon possession if they're not Christians? Can be.

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Like epigenetic trauma from thousands or hundreds of thousands of years ago?

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Well, you're saying if they have the symptoms of it, then it has to be physical, right? So even if this is something that is happening allegedly in their minds, but there's physical manifestations, is it real? I think so.

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How much information will the demon give you? Best case scenario. Will they tell you how old they are? Where they're from?

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How much of that do you think is psychological though? You know, there's a tribe in Haiti who practices a ritual similar to that, but it's a drug ritual. They get high on like toad venom and then they bury themselves in this like zombie ritual.

Danny Jones Podcast

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How far back into history do exorcisms go? Like when was the first exorcism? Do you know?

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But the problem is like how much of that is drug induced and how much of that is psychological belief?

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The rainbow serpent. Exactly. Yeah. Maybe you can, I probably butchered that. Maybe you can-

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But when Christ was performing exorcisms, he was doing it to people that were involved in religion, involved, there was medicine involved.

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For people that aren't aware of the rainbow serpent ritual, can you explain what that is?

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Evil spirits. So in antiquity... Science and technology was nowhere near as evolved as it is today. So when people were psychotic, having epileptic seizures, any of these things that we understand and have studied today, wouldn't it make sense that they would have just attributed this to spirituality or some sort of ethereal beings, demons, angels, whatever it is? Partially.

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And if someone comes to you and they believe wholeheartedly there's a demon inside of them, they're possessed. And they just come to you. They're like, Bob. Well. Diagnose me. Do I have a demon? Can you get rid of it? How do you know that they don't have a demon?

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Yeah, but you don't have to see a medical doctor to know you have a demon.

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Couldn't a demon enter them through the molestation process?

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How often is it the case that you know it's a demon, but the person doesn't believe it's a demon and is not religious at all, doesn't believe in God, doesn't believe in the devil, none of this stuff?

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That's a great point. They wouldn't. They wouldn't come to you unless they actually believed that there was a demon and they believed in it.

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Have you ever been possessed by a demon? No. Has one ever tried? Pardon? Has one ever tried to enter you?

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You would think, since you're battling all these demons, they would say, we got to get rid of this guy.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Or Satan would just kind of conjure up his horde of demons and be like, we need to start a war against Bob.

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How come Jesus called himself the morning star?

Danny Jones Podcast

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Yeah, but Jesus also called himself the morning star. I've had multiple Bible scholars on here that said that.

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There's a famous quote. I forget who the quote's by, but they said the devil was the best friend of the church because it kept him in business.

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Now, you've been on a lot of big shows like Anderson Cooper and Dr. Phil.

Danny Jones Podcast

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You're my token Christian. What kind of things do these skeptics or these critics of you like to say? What do your biggest critics say about you?

Danny Jones Podcast

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Stop it. You're not 80. I'm 80. Wow. You look great, brother.

Danny Jones Podcast

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So before we started the show, I offered you a liquid death and you refused it. So I went and got you a nice.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Sometimes that can do it to you. The elevation changes. A lot of people die from that.

Danny Jones Podcast

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How do you spell his name for Steve? How do you spell his name?

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Yeah, I think so. And even so, for people that aren't aware of you, you're a proper exorcist. Yes. And you've done how many exorcisms so far?

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Latin is for those hunt-dwelling Romans, they say.

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Now, is there like a protocol when you're doing this where you have to like file this with the church?

Danny Jones Podcast

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How do you distinguish between the drugs is a very broad term. There's all kinds of drugs. There's drugs that can help lower your cholesterol. There's drugs that can help you enter another dimension. How do you distinguish which drugs are related to the devil? Let's just talk about street drugs or weed, which used to be a street drug.

Danny Jones Podcast

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What makes weed so demonic? Google. Shiva and marijuana. Okay, let's look it up, Steve. Shiva and marijuana.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Lord Shiva is associated with marijuana because he consumed a bang to alleviate the pain after drinking the poison halahala during the churning of the ocean. He was using it to alleviate seasickness.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Okay, here it says, in Hindu festivals such as the Shiva Ratri, devotees consume marijuana as a form of praising to Shiva, or as a form of praise to Shiva, symbolizing their love and devotion. So where is the evil stuff here? Shiva. Shiva's evil?

Danny Jones Podcast

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So Shiva, Steve, can you find out like Shiva's, what is the, what does the Google call Shiva? I'm assuming it's the Hindu devil.

Danny Jones Podcast

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That's what he actually said? That is what he actually said. Who changed it? Huh? Who changed it to I am become death? Political correctness. Really? Fine. We got to figure it. We got to find this. But you could find it. I didn't know this. Okay. Okay. Scroll up, Steve. It's telling you in the AI. Oppenheimer did not actually say, I am become Shiva, destroyer of worlds.

Danny Jones Podcast

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The quote is known for is I am become death, destroyer of worlds. The phrase comes from the Bhagavad Gita, the sacred Hindu text. Oppenheimer recalled thinking of this verse during the Trinity nuclear tests, the first detonation of a nuclear weapon.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Right, but he didn't write I Am Become Shiva. He wrote I Am Become God.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Different levels, different devils. Okay, so we were just talking about how you were in your 20s. You went to Africa and you witnessed these tribes partaking in these rituals. And how did that lead to you becoming an exorcist?

Danny Jones Podcast

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This is AI, I think. This is the Google AI. Okay, but my point is... It's not Google, it's Brave.

Danny Jones Podcast

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But what about... I'm just telling you. What about all like the people that come back from war with PTSD and all these mental illnesses and these hypervigilance, these issues that they're having. And they're literally prescribed weed and it alleviates. Weed, CBD, all these things that alleviate their stress. They bring them back to normal. Wait a minute. And save their lives.

Danny Jones Podcast

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okay that's a very different scenario okay but there's a difference here you're you're you're talking about a 15 year old kid buying something off the streets who is most likely has is involved with crime bad parenting there's a lot of shit going on here exactly you can't you can't take

Danny Jones Podcast

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You can't cherry pick the marijuana out of there and say the marijuana is demonic because there's all kinds of other influences going on here.

Danny Jones Podcast

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What if that person doesn't have the access to a doctor?

Danny Jones Podcast

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psilocybin mushrooms or DMT because DMT is a molecule that we make inside of our own bodies. It's in our lungs. It's in our brain. It's in every plant, every living, living organism that exists on this earth. It's in this table. It's in the wood in this table.

Danny Jones Podcast

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People can take DMT and have an incredible psychedelic experience where they quite literally leave this dimension and enter another dimension. It's like, it's been described in antiquity as being,

Danny Jones Podcast

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dying and being born again like they literally their their soul leaves their physical body and they enter another dimension created of light so they think and they come back you don't know that that happens that's what i've done dmt i know that's what they describe but they're describing it in a it

Danny Jones Podcast

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Let me give you this. How many times did he take ayahuasca? I don't know, but I'll give you this. And look what happened to his career. The second he started taking ayahuasca... Ask the New York Jets if they think this guy... It directly correlates with his downfall in his football abilities.

Danny Jones Podcast

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No, I'm with you on that one. I think you might be onto something there. I think Aaron Rodgers might be possessed by a demon. I would love to make that happen.

Danny Jones Podcast

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That's one of the best things you can discover on drugs, especially psychedelic drugs, is love. That's what you get out of psychedelics.

Danny Jones Podcast

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I think the psychedelics made me a better person and a better dad.

Danny Jones Podcast

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What do you mean never seen it with your own eyes? Like the stuff that the Bible talks about?

Danny Jones Podcast

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Psychedelics don't kill people. Alcohol kills more people than any other drug.

Danny Jones Podcast

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So a lot of historians, will claim that, especially I've had people on here who specialize in the Dead Sea Scrolls, who specialize in the Hebrew history, who specialize in the Greek pharmacology, all I've had, you know, a wide spectrum of biblical scholars and classical scholars on the show.

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And pretty much all of them agree that there were ancient pagan drug rituals going on before Christianity and that Christianity borrowed from these drug rituals.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Are you saying that there were none of these pagan religious drug rituals going on?

Danny Jones Podcast

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You're saying that they're not at all connected to Christianity?

Danny Jones Podcast

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Yeah, but here's the problem with it. Why can you only look at the academic scholarship in the Christian world? Why can't you look at it outside of the Christian world? We have our history, right? And then we have all of our history, and then we have this narrow lane of Christianity.

Danny Jones Podcast

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It's all part of history, but some of the scholarship only stays in this one lane of theology, and they don't look outside of the theology and all the other texts that existed at the same exact time. They don't take the context of everything in history, right? They're only taking into account what the Christian history is.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Yeah, it does according to the translators. According to the people who read the text, they say yes.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Yeah. I think there's probably a huge amount of people that do benefit from that legitimately. But my point was I think there's also a lot of people who really, really benefit the same way from psychedelic drugs, from things like ayahuasca, psilocybin mushrooms, these things that come from our earth that God created.

Danny Jones Podcast

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I don't know, man. I think we need to get you to try some DMT.

Danny Jones Podcast

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People that don't want to be associated with the child and stuff.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Right. Well, I mean, I would only go to an exorcist if I was like really, really, if I believed in God and I believed in the devil, if I was a religious person. I would believe exorcism was real and would work. If I wasn't that kind of person, I probably wouldn't, I would think exorcism is bullshit. So why would I waste my time? You kind of pointed that out earlier.

Danny Jones Podcast

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A real exorcism. I would love to. That's why I brought you here today. I wanted you to exercise the man in the other room. This was going to be, this was originally, that was the plan.

Danny Jones Podcast

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I don't understand. That's the part I can't get past. That's the part I can't get past. Why do I have to believe in you? Why do I have to believe in the devil and God to have you exercise the demon from me?

Danny Jones Podcast

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Maybe that's what gives me my instinct to want to rebel.

Danny Jones Podcast

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The Nazis wanted to recruit. They wanted the Norwegians.

Danny Jones Podcast

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That two-headed demon with his short phallus is from the Amazon rainforest. I had a gentleman in here named Mike Corey. He travels all over the world and visits uncontacted tribes. And this was a specific tribe in the Amazon who cuts off heads and shrinks them. They're famous for the little shrunken heads that you see. This is holy anointing oil.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Do I want God? Depends what your definition of God is.

Danny Jones Podcast

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I think you can find God on psychedelics. Read the Bible.

Danny Jones Podcast

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I will read it. That's my New Year's resolution, to read the Bible.

Danny Jones Podcast

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I'm going to read it. I've heard it's a very hard read.

Danny Jones Podcast

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What's going on with that baby in the bottom left?

Danny Jones Podcast

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Were you doing a talk, a public talk or something? Yeah.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Liquid death, you know, they're not really doing us any favors. It's expensive water, but it's cool. The kids love it. You know what I mean? Demon-infused water. Are we rolling? We're rolling.

Danny Jones Podcast

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But he wouldn't punish a guy who hurt his own son?

Danny Jones Podcast

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So God saved that guy's life who was his own son.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Do you believe in extraterrestrial civilizations and aliens? Absolutely not. No?

Danny Jones Podcast

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You know the Vatican is starting to explore that stuff, right?

Danny Jones Podcast

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He's like the guy who's a part of the whole- You actually talked to the guy. No, I just, you know, I read it online.

Danny Jones Podcast

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What does this say? Here's the report right here, says Steve. From where? What's the source here? We need the source. We can't just be taking anyone's word for it. Go up. Scroll up.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Let me read it. Let me read it. The implications. Give it to me, Steve. The Vatican has shown interest in the possibility of extraterrestrial life, but does not seem to be actively searching for aliens. In 2009, the Vatican held a conference on astrobiology, which included discussions about the implications of alien life.

Danny Jones Podcast

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For religion and science, the Vatican's chief astronomer, Father Jose Funes, has stated that if aliens exist, they could be considered part of God's creation and might not need redemption.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Sometimes when you're an exorcist, you got to take chances to save souls. Yes. Sometimes it's more about the souls than it is about yourself, right? Amen, brother. Yeah, that came from, I think they used to burn that. So this comes off the top. And they put bodily fluids and herbs in there and drugs in there, and they would burn it. And then that would be a part of their ritual.

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Like the classical- explanations and accounts from, for example, Professor John Mack, the Harvard psychologist who interviewed hundreds and hundreds of people who believed they were abducted by aliens, took them into a spaceship and had their sperm and their eggs extracted.

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He thinks they're not only extra demand. He was obsessed with the devil and he was obsessed with the story, the medieval stories of angels and demons. He had a book. I had a woman in here who met Jacques and went to his house and she showed it. She actually gave him the book of Satan.

Danny Jones Podcast

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It has 666 pages. Wow. And he told her, he said, you want to know what these beings are? He's like, you need to understand this book. And it was the book of the devil.

Danny Jones Podcast

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I think it's a very similar thing. People like to fill the gaps of knowledge they don't have with things like God and aliens, right?

Danny Jones Podcast

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Yeah, he gave us a video. He gave me the video of it.

Danny Jones Podcast

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I think going back to what we were talking about with Jacques Vallée, I think whatever people were seeing or witnessing back then that are described in the Bible and biblical texts as angels and or demons, things like Ezekiel's wheel, I think Jacques Vallée believes that those were –

Danny Jones Podcast

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UFOs, aliens, it was the same thing going on back then, and we, throughout history, human history, people have either seen them as biblical, ethereal entities, or... Are you trying to channel Eric Van Doniken? No, I've never read anything from Eric Van Don again.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Right. I'm familiar with this book, but I've never read any of it.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Well, there's diffusion of responsibility. There's so many people on this damn earth. You walk around New York City, you can find somebody overdosing on fentanyl, foaming at the mouth on the side of the road. People just walk right over them. I know. Somebody gets in a car accident, they're bleeding, pulling their child out of the car seat.

Danny Jones Podcast

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People just walk by and, you know, their people are psychopaths. They're losing their connection to community and to other human beings because of technology and because of population, because of urbanization of these cities.

Danny Jones Podcast

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If you could rescue one public figure or somebody in politics or somebody that everybody knows, who would it be? Who is the most demon-possessed person in politics right now?

Danny Jones Podcast

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I think U.S. politics is run by demons. Well, greed.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Yeah. But what if he's just like hanging out? I'm not worshiping him. Like he's just hanging out, like observing. It was a gift from a friend.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Have you ever encountered somebody who is demon possessed who smelled like sulfur? A couple of times. Because I've heard through many people, including Alex Jones, that Hillary Clinton smells like sulfur. I'm serious.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Because she's so high up in politics and she has so much blackmail on so many people because she was related to Jeffrey Epstein.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Yeah, yeah. John. It's irrelevant. Okay. John Stewart, he wasn't on- Stewart, yeah. Was he on Comedy Central?

Danny Jones Podcast

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So... The way I learn about stuff on this podcast is I have people come in and explain to me what they've learned, explain to me what they've studied throughout their lives, explain to me what they believe in, in your case, about the Bible and Christianity. And Amin, in the other room, when he came in, you heard the podcast that he did with me. I can't get anybody. I can't get a Bible scholar.

Danny Jones Podcast

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I can't get a classicist. I can't get any kind of religious person who studies this stuff or has a PhD in this stuff to combat the stuff he talks about or to combat his theories and dispute what he says. Mm-hmm. Well... So how... I can't get an alternative or a reasonable pushback to any of the theories he has.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Other than people that tell me over the phone, he's wrong, he's completely bullshit, he's blasphemous, but no one will actually step into the arena with him and confront what he's saying face-to-face. So... So someone like me, when that happens to me, what that tells me is he's got to be right because nobody can come up with a reasonable pushback.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Where did you get that? Because nobody can come in here and debate him and prove to me and let me and the audience make a decision to what is actually real and what's right. You just constructed a logic. A logical fallacy. You got to battle ideas with better ideas, right? That's how you learn. No.

Danny Jones Podcast

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But you are an enemy of the devil. So why can't you debate the devil?

Danny Jones Podcast

#282 - World's #1 Exorcist: Aliens, Demons, Drugs & the True Origin of Satan | Bob Larson

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So what type of people do you do exorcisms on? Are they all of a particular faith?

Danny Jones Podcast

#282 - World's #1 Exorcist: Aliens, Demons, Drugs & the True Origin of Satan | Bob Larson

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That sounds kind of like what happens in Scientology when they go through the auditing sessions.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Right, but if someone's telling you their deepest, darkest... If they're truly, honestly telling you their deepest, darkest secrets, they are submitting their will to you.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Okay. If you're telling them that, at the same time that they're telling you, honestly, their deepest, darkest secrets... They are submitting everything, every fiber of their being to your power.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Right. My, the thing that frustrates me the most is you have a guy who grew up in Christianity, studied the Bible his whole life, devout Christian talking about almond over here in the other room. And.

Danny Jones Podcast

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started reading the ancient Greek literature, the classical literature, the stuff that surrounded the Bible, all the medical stuff, all the legal stuff, all the philosophical stuff, all the comedy, the arts and all this stuff that was happening the same time that the gospels were written before, after, during the same time and devotes his life, 30 years of his life to reading the actual original sources in Greek.

Danny Jones Podcast

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And it pulls him out of Christianity. He almost studied his way out of Christianity and devoting his life to Jesus.

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So somebody who has is so freaking educated in this stuff. That's his story. Okay. Even if it is. So let's just say it's a lie. Let's just say it's a lie. If he's lying, right? Why can't I get another scholar to come in here and call him out on his lies?

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I've tried so hard, you would not believe. I've gotten like 18 Harvard scholars turn it down.

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So do you think there's a distinction between good and evil when it comes to political parties, like if they're left-leaning or right-leaning?

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Understood. Okay. Bob, thank you. This has been a pleasure. I really enjoyed this conversation, man. This has been fun.

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I really appreciate you taking the time to travel down here. How can someone get themselves to you?

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Could happen. How do I give in to Jesus and how do I become born again?

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I'm interested. I want to learn more about this. Yeah. I'm open to it, but I have to take a leak real quick.

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We're going to do that. Pause. I'm going to use the restroom and we're going to continue the sinner's prayer. We'll bring it on in here.

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Okay. When somebody comes to you, what do they say? When they reach out to you, hey, Bob, saw you on YouTube or Dr. Phil or whatever. I heard you're a great world's top exorcist. Mm-hmm. How do they – what do they respond with? Do they think they have a demon or do they think that they are having some sort of crisis in their life? Is it a psychological issue?

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There it is. That's the second biggest pyramid?

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Right? Type in tridents after the word, Steve. After the go back, type in trident. Yeah, you probably won't.

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This dying and rising gods, this pagan thing that goes back.

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And this rite has been a part of Freemasons since the beginning. Yeah. It's interesting the founding fathers were Freemasons.

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Jesus Christ, man. Yeah. The mysteries. Yeah. There's also... I was watching your show that you do with Matt Bell. And you talk, apparently you have the bones of Jesus.

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So when was the last time the vaults were opened?

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Yeah. Where was that? Roughly. You don't have to give me an exact location.

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So how would, has anyone verified or like tried to do testing on the bones?

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But it's... I didn't know these languages shared similar roots. They do, yeah. Which proves that there was a... What about in Hebrew? Is there a word for it in Hebrew? In Hebrew, it's mana. Yeah, mana. Because I know for a fact there was... There's this author, John Allegro, who wrote a book called Sacred Mushroom and the Cross.

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And the basis of his whole book was connecting root words or connecting Sumerian roots to Hebrew roots, trying to figure out what was going on. But one of the foundational problems, I think, with his book is that none of the Hebrew roots... The Hebrew roots do not match any of the... any of the Sumerian roots at all. Like, they're completely separate languages.

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How come... every Freemason I've ever met is super knowledgeable about ancient Egypt stuff.

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The history of the Templars is pretty crazy. You guys got persecuted. First of all, how are you associated with the Knights Templar?

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Is it on your phone? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you could send it, can you send it to me and I can give it to Stephen? He can throw it on the TV. We can look at it.

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So you've been in this temple? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you said it's not open to the public.

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So when you were being raised as a child, what kind of things did you guys do? I mean, obviously, that was a pretty unique experience at eight years old.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's on a lintel at Abydos. That looks like Jeff Bezos' super yacht up there on the top.

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There we go. That's nice and clean. Dude, look at that.

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That's like some sort of moth or something or a crazy insect on the left.

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It looks like a helicopter, right? And then it looks like the... Like it definitely looks like a submarine below it. Right. And then the thing on the top, yeah, it's either like a hand, like an elongated hand, and it kind of looks like a yacht to me.

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See, if you can find an image of like the corner cuts of the Osirian, like where they show like the wall joints coming together. Yeah. And the overlap. Like, it looks as if they just stacked all these stones in a big pile and then cut through them to create the negative space. Yep. See if I can find it.

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Just type in like snake bros of Syrian and you'll find it.

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yeah well well it doesn't show the grind you can't see it so like that corner piece it would have been one stone yeah it's usually the lentil we're having trouble finding it right now yeah you have to look at the lentils the the what's this the uh yeah no these were close-up photos man yeah yeah i'm typing but the whole the whole place is very mysterious you know i mean do you know the conventional explanation to how those things those stones are cut they're

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Hmm. I had this dude on here named Jeffrey Drum. He has a channel called The Land of Chem in Egypt. He lives right across the street from Giza. And he has this crazy interesting – Oh, yeah. There's the melted stairs. He has a super compelling hypothesis on how they used the pyramids to create – um, chemicals. Like he's thinks there were chemical manufacturing plants.

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And he says, even when you go inside one of those, uh, I forget, I think it was a step pyramid. Maybe he said it smells like sulfuric acid. Is that what it was?

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Yeah. He says that, that people, uh, the conventional explanation for it is from bats, that shit. But he says it doesn't make sense because, um, For some reason, it wouldn't smell like that all the way. It smells the worst the deeper you get, like to the very deepest part of the pyramid.

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And he has the diagrams of them, and he lays it out really well on how it would have made perfect sense for those things to be manufacturing those chemicals. And they would have been used to create fertilizer, to spur the growth of agriculture, and all kinds of stuff there.

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And there was also these bowls, these giant bowls that are like somewhere around that pyramid near the base. It looked like there was these channels going through the rocks. And then these big bowls that looked like they were there to hold whatever sort of chemical or whatever sort of fluid was coming out of those pyramids.

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to chem or chem it egypt he also thinks that um when in the serapium like there's these scoop marks that are cut out of those big granite boxes down there he thinks that they would have used these chemicals potentially to soften the stone to scoop out like cracks or whatever because if those things were using sound or whatever to like resonate or yeah whatever there was like high energy in there you wouldn't want cracks in there to the integrity of those boxes yeah scoop it

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Yeah. So you said the Ark of the Covenants, they have acacia wood and gold. And it somehow creates like a static electricity.

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It's interesting. Like the, like this kind of history is so fascinating, but the, when you really look at it, the crazy thing about it is like going, even going back to the sources, like for, for Noah, just for an example, like Noah wasn't even written about until like 1200 years after he died. Correct, yeah, sure. So imagine that today.

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Imagine me and you having this conversation today, and then it just, like, a cataclysm happens, and then in a thousand years, oh, Tim and Danny had this conversation a thousand years ago. What are the chances that the story is going to be anywhere near accurate?

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So, which is three, is that three 50 or something like that? Steve, can you find out when the Septuagint was?

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A lot of people, most scholars, if you will, believe that it was originally Hebrew and translated into Greek. Right. But I've had a lot of people on here debating this fact. And the biggest argument for it is that Greek was a much deeper, richer, complex language than Hebrew. And Greek had like 1.2 million unique words. Hebrew only has 7,000 unique words.

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So how do you take, my question is, how do you take a language, if something was written in a language, Right. That only has 7000 unique words. And how are you going to translate into something that has over a million that has more complex that uses one word to convey multiple words? Like if you there's words that you can use that you can take in Greek. Right. Right.

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There's black folks in the Knights Templar?

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And you can and it would take three words in Hebrew to make that one word in Greek. Right. Right. Exactly. Yet.

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Yeah, I mean it's- So like at what point did like your parents sit you down and say, son, you're a part of the Knights Templar. Do you know what the Knights Templar are?

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Right. And I had a, um, I had a classical philologist in here who spent his entire life reading and translating Greek and, And, uh, he came up under John Scarborough, who was like one of the most legendary and, uh, basically told him when he was in, when he was coming up through, uh, his PhD program, he's like, don't fuck with any secondary sources.

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He's like only go to original sources for all of, for everything. And he's told me in here that the root word for Christ, hrio, or the word Christ or Christos in Greek, it actually means, according to him, to apply a drug to your eyes.

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Yeah. One of the other things that this gentleman, Amin Hillman, was explaining to me on the show was that – Jesus was a big time drug guy. He was always on drugs, always performing, you know, being, you know, participating in these, in these rights. And there was a, a thing they would do where they would get high on Viper venom on North African Viper venom.

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And what they, and the way he's, by the way, he has read, have you heard of Galen? He's Marcus Aurelius' physician. Sure, sure, of course. Yeah, yeah. He's read ungodly amounts of Galen and translated ungodly amounts of Galen's work, like thousands and thousands of pages of his work. Wow.

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And what Galen talks about, which this guy's an expert in, is how they would induce viper venom, small amounts of viper venom into children. Like put it on a bandage, like cut their arm and then wrap it in a bandage. Just enough to where they wouldn't actually kill them. Right. But they would create the antibodies. Sure.

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So when they got high on snake venom, they could extract fluids from those people, whatever it was, from those children. And that would be an antidote so they wouldn't die. And he thought that this was the idea of dying and being born again by taking the venom, the death inducers, they called them. And then to take the antidote, the antichrist, which is what those were.

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They called them antichrist, antidotes. Right. And that would keep them alive so they could get high. Wow.

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So are you familiar with the part in the Bible where Jesus is arrested in the public park with the naked boy?

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That's what this guy says. Well, not necessarily. So what Amon believes is basically... And then to clarify, from what my understanding is of what a classicist does, is their job is to go back in the time machine, find texts, And because there's this thing, there's this phenomenon called semantic drift that happens over time where one word will change and evolve meaning over millennia.

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Of course, yeah. So a classicist's job is to go back to a specific point in history, right, and read all the peripheral texts, the comedy, the poetry, the pharmaceutical texts, the medical texts, etc. and figure out a general consensus of what the words meant. Yeah, the context. The context of what was actually going on. So that's what he does. This is how he came to this conclusion about Jesus.

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In the park, when he was with the kid, he thinks Jesus was hallucinating on this death inducer, right? And he had the kid there who was wearing nothing but a linen cloth on his private parts. And he thinks that that was somehow Jesus was going to get his antidote from the boy. Yeah, maybe. And the boy ran off, right? Sure.

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So then Jesus, the next day gets crucified and there's, and he's, he's like screaming and he, he dies early. Right. They're not supposed to die that quick. Yeah. And there's the depiction of them giving him the sponge, you know, the, the, what was it supposed to be like vinegar or something? Yeah.

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They, he says he believes that that was supposed to be like the antidote that was on that to keep him alive. And he refused to take it because he wanted to die quicker. Yeah.

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small child is i don't think he was you know there's been all kinds of weird because what he said was i'm not when the cops came he said i'm not a laystace i'm not a laystace right and he says laystace at that point in time in history meant a child right right right right exactly that's what caesar said right when caesar was captured he goes the laystace that he crucified of

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There was also, there was something I was reading this morning. Steve, I sent you a link to this passage, or it was a write-up. It was called The Questions of Mary. Are you familiar with this? The Questions of Mary? No, but I know Mary's- That's one of those links I text you.

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Yeah. Oh, this is it. The Lost Greater Questions of Mary. Can you zoom in on this a little bit? Um, yeah, this is crazy. Um, so it says, this is Bart Arman's podcast or not podcast. His website is a blog article on there where he's writing about, um, this, this, uh,

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this thing that happened with jesus and mary he said one of the greatest question one of the great questions for scholars is whether such book ever really did exist and it's mentioned only once in ancient literature in a highly charged polemical context by epiphanius of salamis a christian

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heresy heresy hunter who was prone to exaggeration and fabrication who was incautious at best in his attacks against heretical sex in his book the panarion um medicine chest uh in it epiphanius supplies the antidotes for the snake bites of hairs of heresy Wait, is this the one I said? Go scroll down. There was, keep going. Okay, here we go.

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For the Gnostic Philippinites, this text and their corresponding rituals related to their doctrinal views that humans represent divine sparks entrapped in human bodies which need to escape. Human procreation perpetuates the state of entrapment by providing an endless supply of bodies as prisons for the sparks of the divine.

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The solution to the problem then was to engage in non-procreative sex as shown to Mary Magdalene by the Savior himself. One Odd Night on a Mountaintop, and here is the quotation for the text from Epiphanius. The first sentence, obviously, is Epiphanius himself explaining what the book is. Okay, so the book is called The Greater Questions of Mary.

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They indicate that Jesus gave a revelation to Mary, taking her to the mountain as he prayed, and then extracted a woman from his side and began having sexual intercourse with her. Then he gathered his seed in his hand, explaining that this is what we must do in order to live.

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When Mary became disturbed and fell on the ground, he again raised her and said to her, why do you doubt you of little faith? Somehow, I think this one never had much of a chance of getting into the New Testament.

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What was the closest gospel to Jesus, like the first one published or the first gospel?

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But the closest one I thought was like 20 years after he died. Wow.

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Apparently, there's a huge black market for people trying to buy the fragments, and a ton of them are fake. And he actually discovered a bunch of the fakes.

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You know, another thing, and they were mostly in Hebrew. I think there was a very small percentage of them that were in Greek and maybe some Aramaic. And the interesting thing about the Hebrew, like going back to what we were talking about with the Septuagint being the original written in Greek. Right. Is that there was so much more Greek literature around in the Library of Alexandria.

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Like everywhere was Greek. There's literally, I mean, we had the Dead Sea Scrolls during that time period that's in Hebrew. Right. There's nothing else in Hebrew. Right.

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Yeah. So it's amazing that some of like the most mind bending philosophy, you know, philosophical ideas came out of that period of time. Yeah, for sure. From the Greeks, you know, when they were, you know, we had the, the Eleusinian mysteries, all these pagan cults, these drug cults. And at the same time, you just have this explosion of intellect and antiquity.

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The idea of applying a drug to your eyes being the word Hrio or Christos. And then if you look at like the Bhagavad Gita and the story of where she puts the drug in her eyes and like has all these visions, it's like there's lots of parallels to that too.

Danny Jones Podcast

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The gematria of the Greek name for Jesus is a trinity of eights, which represents rebirth, regeneration, and salvation. The Greek name for Jesus is, okay, I can't read that. That's Greek. Which is abbreviated as IHS, JHS, IHC, IHE. The ancient scribes and copyists of the New Testament used the abbreviated IE to refer to Jesus in Greek, which gave the name special sanctity.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Yeah, I was always – my understanding of the Templars was that they were somehow tied into banking in Switzerland.

Danny Jones Podcast

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The Swiss banks came out. And I thought like my understanding also was that the inquisition on the Templars when they when the was the pope or the king that came after them both because they wanted their money. Right. Yeah. Yeah. The king was like the like the whole the whole claim of what they were doing. They didn't really care about that. They just need an excuse to take their money.

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So there's a parchment that is found, which is supposedly the original source of this building. sort of trial that went on with the Knights Templar. Yeah, the Chinon Parchment. Yeah, that's what it was, the Chinon Parchment. I think that's the forgery. There's some weird stuff in there, man.

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They were saying that during the initiations, the Templars, they had to denounce Jesus and then make out with each other.

Danny Jones Podcast

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So he, it wasn't, it was, he had a whole like army of people that were going through all the archives.

Danny Jones Podcast

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So you think it was just there to destroy the credibility and make the Templars look like sickos?

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Yeah, there was stuff in there saying they had to denounce Jesus, they had to spit on a cross, and then they had to abstain from any intercourse with women. None of that's real.

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Yeah, they kissed their butts and their navels and kissed each other on the mouth.

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I mean, what else could be responsible for the architecture of something like Notre Dame? I mean, that is just astonishing. Yeah, it's amazing. Like, just, I mean, the patterns, the symmetry.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Is it common practice within Freemasonry to take DMT and to do these psychedelics?

Danny Jones Podcast

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Yeah. So, okay. I see what you're saying now with the pregnant belly in the middle. Right. Wow.

Danny Jones Podcast

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um you know some of the crypts and chambers that just aren't available to the public so the you know the um the general consensus from egyptologists about the pyramid being a tomb is pretty astonishing ridiculous even more i think even more ridiculous is the idea that the serapium oh yeah boxes oh yeah coffins for like Bulls or horses.

Danny Jones Podcast

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How could you not be? They, they, they, I mean, those boxes are too big to even move through those hallways. They fill up the entire hallway and those things were like a thousand tons each. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Yeah, there's photos of Chris Dunn inside those boxes with a square tool, like holding the square tool to the corners. Totally precise. Totally perfectly square inside. It's interesting that the outsides aren't as perfect. Right.

Danny Jones Podcast

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And it looks like the carvings on the outside, if you look at the precision of the work they did on those boxes and how much – engineering and knowledge and skill had to go into creating those. And then you look at the carvings, like the Egyptian carvings that are on the outside. It's like graffiti.

Danny Jones Podcast

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It looks like toddlers came along with crayons afterwards and tried to draw on the outsides of these perfect masterpieces.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Right, because with the Younger Dryas cataclysm, would that have impacted Egypt that much? Because that basically wiped out all the megafauna on North America, right? It hit the North American ice sheet.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Because Africa, all the wild, all the giant animals and the giant megafauna, they all survived. But there's nothing like that in the U.S. Correct.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Yeah. Are you familiar with Chris Dunn's pyramid power plant theory? Yes, yes, of course. The Giza power plant? Yep. Super, super compelling. And the fact that he's an engineer and understands how these things work and built jet engines and his whole point is that precision is the product of

Danny Jones Podcast

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function right precision comes from function you don't need precision unless you're trying to achieve some sort of functional goal right so why would all of these things be so precise in the in the great pyramid and unless it was designed to actually do something right yep well check this out the the king's the king's coffer in the great pyramid

Danny Jones Podcast

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Yes. This is one of the things that Chris Dunn explained to me when he came on here. He had a NASA physicist, Dr. Friedman Freund, I think his name was. Yep. Who showed experiments of squeezing these giant granite pillars and being able – and they put an electrode on the other – on one end of it. And then they squeezed – they like used a hydraulic press to squeeze the other end of the granite.

Danny Jones Podcast

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And it created electricity. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. And well, and the fact that the pyramids on the Giza Plateau, which is a seismically active part of the earth.

Danny Jones Podcast

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The idea is that the electrons from deep inside the earth, if there was an earthquake or if his idea was that there was like a hydraulic hammer inside the subterranean chamber that would basically hammer the earth and create these mini earthquakes that basically shot up these electrons into the pyramid, charged all of the granite and limestone in the pyramid.

Danny Jones Podcast

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That somehow combined with chemicals going in the shafts of the Queen's Chamber, then resonating through the Grand Gallery, the combination of this charged granite with all the electrons, the sound that was coming through the Grand Gallery, and the chemical combustion that was happening inside the Queen's Chamber created some sort of...

Danny Jones Podcast

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some sort of crazy reaction in the king's chamber that utilized those laser or masers those uh um those shafts that go out of the King's chamber out and they, that somehow, you know, according to his theory would be a way to provide a free energy for whatever civilization was there.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Wasn't there like some sort of, it looks like there's something missing from the top of it. Like there was a capstone.

Danny Jones Podcast

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And how did you get into it from the beginning?

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yeah you know so prior to the cataclysm also these things these vases incredible yeah they're you know you met with Matt yeah Matt Bell who bought like a few dozen of those things and they're like they measured them they measured them in laser scanners light machines whatever and they're like perfectly symmetrical perfectly and they're the hardest stone on earth one of the hardest stones on earth right

Danny Jones Podcast

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And they're thin. They're almost as thin as a sheet of paper.

Danny Jones Podcast

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And some of them you can shine a light to. Yeah, you can shine a flashlight in them and you can see the light right through it. It's insane.

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Yeah, I had Flint Dibble on here and he said he thought it would be easy to do this. Well, good luck. Do it. Yeah, well, apparently there's this YouTube channel that tried to do it. I don't think they did a good job. I think it took them, like, a couple years, and they came up with, like, this thing that looked like a potato at the end of it.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Why? Why does it have to be like that? Why does it be so perfect?

Danny Jones Podcast

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There's so many gaping holes in the general consensus of how the pyramids were built and why they built them and even the timing of the pharaohs and all that.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Yeah, no, it's crazy. I was shocked when Flint, was trying to make that argument about these vases. I just didn't, I couldn't, I didn't see the logic there. Yeah. But to give him credit though, one of the things that I think Flint made a very solid case for was for Atlantis. And he happens to be one of like his area of expertise and his, his, where he studied his whole life was Athens. Yeah.

Danny Jones Podcast

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And he's basically excavated Athens to the very beginning. And so, so if there's anyone to talk and, you know, he knows he can read Greek. He understands all the history of the Greeks and the archeology of Athens and Greek and Greece and all that. So he understands the stories. And, um, I don't know if you've ever heard him talk about Atlantis, but the case that he makes is pretty solid.

Danny Jones Podcast

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It seems pretty solid. Because, you know, and I've talked to other classicists about Plato. And I don't know how much, I don't know how solid of a foundation, I don't know how, if Plato is the strongest support for Atlantis or not. But it seems like there's a lot of

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things that plato talked about like for example plato was not a historian he was a philosopher who came up with hypothetical ideas right you know like like plato's cave right right the allegory of the cave and all that stuff and and he came up with i think it was critias or timaeus or whatever when they were talking about atlantis um the the idea was that which um

Danny Jones Podcast

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Flynn explained to me was that it was like a hypothetical war game between Athens and this other civilization right and how to do it he also there's also Plato had an idea of how to create a civilization and he had like the Plato's noble lie about having the philosopher kings and you know Plato was also a big advocate of censorship he wanted to get rid of Homer

Danny Jones Podcast

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He didn't think Homer should have been taught to the students. He wanted basically to create this Santa Claus for society to keep everyone to fit into, you know, to follow the rules and to fit in and to create this functional society. According to experts I've talked to that read ancient Greek and ancient texts is that, I mean, even Aristotle claimed that Plato was a known liar. Right. Sure.

Danny Jones Podcast

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So, you know, I feel like. To take that into context of when he's talking about this war between Athens and Atlantis, you can't just throw that out, right? You got to consider the fact that he was known for creating these lies and these hypothetical – Or metaphors. Metaphors, these philosophical ideas, right?

Danny Jones Podcast

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So do you know the chain of transmission for the Atlanta story? Like if we take Plato, Plato got it from Socrates, right? No, Plato got it from his grandfather. Plato got it from his grandfather? I thought he got it from Socrates. No, Solon.

Danny Jones Podcast

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And then he got it from the priests in Egypt. And then Solon... So how... From the time Plato wrote it down, how many years... Was it before Solon told it to him?

Danny Jones Podcast

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I have this thing. I have it saved somewhere. Let me pull this up because this will be, I think informative for us to look. I have screenshot of this a while back. I have the, um, and you can probably confirm whether how accurate this is. It is basically the chain of transmission of the Atlanta story. Cool. Um,

Danny Jones Podcast

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the chain of transmission that I'm aware of for the, uh, for the Atlanta story. Okay. So destruction of Atlantis 9,000 years before Solon, right? And this is in the Critias. So 9,000 years before Solon is apparently when it was destructed. So from 9,000 years, um, from 9,000 years ago, there's an oral history of it for a thousand years, never written down.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Then it is allegedly written down by the Egyptians 8,000 years ago or 8,000 years before Solon, right? So it's talked about for 1,000 years, only oral, finally written down 1,000 years later. This is in Timaeus. And then – but there's no – so – but – There's no, we still don't have any writings of this, right?

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Danny Jones Podcast

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Okay. So then the priest reads the records. Right. Which is a thousand years, or which is... How long after? So the priest reads the records, years pass, and then he tells his memory of the records to Solon without consulting the records. Solon tells his relative, Drapides. Drapides tells his son, Critias the Elder.

Danny Jones Podcast

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At age 90, Critias the Elder tells it to his 10-year-old grandson, Critias the Younger. Then Critias the Younger tells it to Socrates. Then 50 years later, Plato writes it down. Right. Which is wild. So apparently, okay, so you're saying that it's written down by the Egyptians. Okay, this is saying it's written down allegedly by the Egyptians 8,000 years before Solon, right?

Danny Jones Podcast

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After this destruction of Atlantis. And this is in the Edfu texts.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Can we look up when the Temple of Horus at Edfu was built? And so it was written in the walls?

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Danny Jones Podcast

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So just looking at this, it's like... I mean, how serious can we take it when you have this, you know, a thousand years oral history, then it's like this game of telephone through millennia. And then you have Plato writing it down.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Yeah, I think so too. But like... Now, where Atlantis was- We got a wobbly table still.

Danny Jones Podcast

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I think Randall believes it was in the Azores.

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Danny Jones Podcast

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I think Atlantis, I think if it was real, it's probably still there. And that's where all these UFOs are flying around. They're all coming from Atlantis. It's like this underwater base that they're all going to. Maybe it's run by AI. I don't know. Maybe it's just like still super advanced. Under the water? Yeah. Quite possibly. I mean, we've explored more of the moon than we have of the oceans.

Danny Jones Podcast

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There's a lot we don't know about the ocean. We've explored like what? I think it's... like 5% of our ocean floors?

Danny Jones Podcast

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It's pretty much the same word. And then who took it after Plato? Was it Ignatius Donnelly? Was he the first one to take the ball and run with it after Plato?

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And there's going to be another trial, right?

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The Sarah Boone story is, I'm going to say, one of the most engaged stories on social media. That's my take from the year. Like a lot of people wanted to know about that. That's had a lot of followers.

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And we love working with you.

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Happy holidays, everybody. Thank you, Andrea.

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That part of the story was great. That was a great element to the story.

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Well, the famous Margaret Atwood quote that, you know, men are afraid that women will laugh at them and women are afraid that men will kill them, that would fit into so many Dateline stories. I mean, you literally could write that into any one of a number of scripts.

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Local law enforcement has said that largely in reaction to the public reaction to the documentary that's out. Many people know little about that case, except they've seen that documentary, which has a point of view. Now there is a considerable groundswell of opinion that evidence in the case should be tested or retested using modern DNA technology, and we'll have to see where that goes.

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Well, yeah, testing is not only expensive, which is a concern people don't usually think about, but it also consumes some of the sample. And that can be a problem with investigations going forward.

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Oh, I know the answer, though.

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Yes, we did. That's right.

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Yeah, this was for a story in extreme northern Ontario, Canada. This was to a town that was not on the Canadian road system. You either have to fly in or take a train, or you can, in the colder months, you can snowmobile up the river. Um, we chose to take a train because we have all that gear. So the trip there actually took the trip up was like two and a half days.

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And the trip back was like two days. And then I was only there like a day and a half, but it turned out to be a pretty interesting story. It was a, uh, a couple of cold case murders from the 1980s in, uh, uh, in, uh, in Toronto and the, uh, The man who was found to have been the murderer left Toronto shortly after the second murder, went up there to the extreme cold small town.

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He was arrested a while ago. He's already been put on trial and locked up. He pled guilty. And the last time I spoke to the police, he had not revealed anything else about other crimes he committed. But that remains a sort of big question mark because it's very, very unusual for these guys to just stop.

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I get asked about that case a lot by people online and in airports.

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Not if you're outdoors. Yeah. Not if you have a phone. Yeah.

Dateline: True Crime Weekly

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It was caught on camera. I mean, you know, as Keith would say, or was it? And the question is, what does that camera show? There's definitely some video.

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Right, and that's the, I mean, jurors in general, you know, who've watched TV shows believe, you know, and prosecutors will tell you this, they believe that you can take this cruddy, blurry video and make it crisper and better so that I can see exactly what's going on and we can read that license plate in the car. And that technology is unquestionably going to exist one day, but not yet.

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And she was arrested as she was about to board a plane for Vietnam.

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My guess is that Karen Reid. I mean, it was huge. Still is huge.

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I love that scene, John Wick. Poo, poo, poo. Poo, poo. You spin around, Berlin. Poo, poo, poo. I love Terminator 2 when he went, hasta la vista, baby. Poo. I can't even poo properly.

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Let's just move on.

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You guys know who Takahata is?

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He voiced pretty much everything. He voiced a lot of the Team Four Star stuff. He was Cell, you know. Yeah, that's okay. That's what I thought. He's now a VTuber.

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I don't really look up to any celebrity at all or really ever have. There probably are some exceptions.

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$10,2289.

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$10,27.

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And they ended up together after all.

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I don't even know when they would have been doing that as far as like publishing articles that other people put in there. That's what that joke is for those that don't get it. But also at the same time, people probably know that about it, right?

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This NVME drive I've been twiddling, it was up Samuel L. Jackson's behind.

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okay i almost died you're right i have an anecdote okay anecdote break so this is just a random thing that i don't know why i was reminded when you said weirder i remembered something i witnessed the other day uh amy and i were in a restaurant and we were it was it was quiet there weren't that many people in there and uh someone came in and asked for a glass of water and then was looking around and watching the sushi chefs make it was a sushi place

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I've been watching you since the womb. No, no, no. That was Smosh. That wasn't me. I don't even know who you are. Get out of my house.

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And out of the corner of my eye, I'm not paying him much mind, but I notice something fell on the floor. Out of my peripheral, I look over, and this man is now walking very quickly out the door, and I look on the floor, and there's a used condom on the floor.

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And my brain processed that this man, as for a glass of water, walked over to wash the sushi chefs, and then a used condom fell out of his pant leg onto the floor.

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It just reminded me of that.

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Thankfully, well, not thankfully for the waitstaff, but one of the waitstaffs came over around the corner, looked down before they stepped on it or anything, went like, oh, wow. And then went to get a broom and dustpan. Is that a Trojan magnum? Oh, wow.

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I don't know. I'm sorry. I distracted us.

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$915,000.

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$885,000.

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$650,000.

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I've realized now that if I start sneezing into tissues and selling them at rapid pace, I can make far more money than I ever did making YouTube videos or even this podcast. So I'm officially announcing my retirement and my untirement to eBay's sneeze department. So look forward to a lot of me and a lot of tissues.

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For something that doesn't actually exist out there and only a reference to it, it is right up there in media about that, right up there with Tribute, you know, the song about the greatest song in the world. We have a tribute of the greatest bit in the world that no one else will ever hear.

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There was a hair on it, so I blew it off while I was putting it away.

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Oh. Go on. So, you know, on the last episode, I was saying that my render farm is working.

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This is an issue that me and there's there's an IT guy that's helping me out with setting some of it up. He's doing more of the like the software side, getting things to actually arranged in that capacity. And so one of the persistent problems is a server that I bought, which is a density like a high density server. It's four nodes in like a two unit thing.

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They're long, but it's meant to cram as much process power into small paces as possible. The issue with that is not in me putting it together. It's not in the water cooling that I set up because in the compact space, you need water cooling or else it's going to overheat. They're so crammed in there. And so you need an external water cooling solution. All that works, but.

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After all that work that I've put in, and I probably put in like 100, 200 hours into just setting up those parts of it with all the water cooling pieces in there, there's still a persistent performance problem. The chips themselves are fine. They come back and all the checks come together.

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But what it's boiled down to is the specific server brand that it is has not put out an update to the chipset for those processors. And that's just something that is... I don't know if there's a way to just go directly to the Intel makes the processors and go like, hey, you got drivers? Give them to me.

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Or if it's something where you have to kind of like figure out a way to program it in yourself, you got to get the chipset drivers from the manufacturer of the processor, and then they integrate with the board.

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is to do a different server platform. There's another company, and I'm not naming any of them because I don't know if one works or not. Okay, Asus servers, I'm going to say, are the ones that are not working right now in this specific use case. They have worked in other things that I've done before, Asus or whatever it's called.

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And so Gigabyte makes an equivalent product that has also the hyperdense four unit thing. but I have to undo all the water cooling. I literally have to unbuild everything I've built to pull it out of the computers, box those back up, return these giant hundred pound gigantic boxes, and then get new ones and rebuild all the bullshit all over again, which took me hours, days, weeks.

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It's a big pain in the ass because as far as I know, it should work. They read fine. When they're working, the performance is exactly where it should be. All is lining up.

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I took that out because I thought it was overheating. Apparently it was not the problem either. And no other peripheral in there because the fans are very loud. I do the water cooling also to try to quiet it down a bit. They're running at full bore and it's still just crashing. I think it's just because the chipset is not updated to run with those processors.

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There's some kind of paging file system memory system error that's building up over time that's causing like consecutive errors that run into each other and then eventually it freezes.

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But half of the other Rent-A-Farm is still working. It's just those hyper-dense ones that are not working, which are the most recent edition. And it's something I can return. It's just like, that's hours I don't have. Not devastating, but it's unfortunate. Just means I got to undo a lot of work and redo it.

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ASUS's last BIOS update is not only last year, but it's like mid last year. Whereas Gigabyte has a BIOS update that you can apply to the server as of earlier this year, which is after the processors actually launch. So I know that the old BIOS is not current as of the processor's release date, and these ones on the other server are.

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Thank you. Can't wait to provide more whenever I get into 3D printing deeper because that probably is my next hyper fixation. And oh boy, I can't wait. I've already had problems with this one here and it works great. And there's still been a lot of problems.

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I really wanted to do a spit take with my Red Bull there, but then I realized I would just be spraying it all over my monitor.

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You're right. I probably would have, but I'll make it up on the back half.

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But that might be the thing, because those monitors do require a lot of power. I think about this a lot because the power draw in my server is actually a big concern, which is why I overkilled it. But even now with 240 volt circuits and stuff like that, I have to be very cognizant of the power.

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It can do more, but then you risk tripling the fuse.

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That can only put out so much power.

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I might be on to something.

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We Hate These States

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Wait, how many did you think were left?

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Fuck me!

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I'm sorry.

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If we change the parameters, I'm assuming an average dude and average gorilla, just to keep it consistent. I'm always picturing average dudes, average gorilla. I still feel like 50 is just too, like there's too many people to grab and hold. Like you send five guys per limb and then you still have 40 to go for the body.

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I'd be like, I think a lot of people are like, oh, the people would be scared. That gorilla would be fucking petrified. Holy shit, where did all these people come from? So I think, okay, I get it. There's like a 1% chance the gorilla would- Yeah, that's where I'm coming from. But it's really low. I would still definitely bet on the people. Yeah, I would bet on the people. All right, 25.

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That's still-

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Five per limb and five to just go after the torso. You gotta think five dudes could hold back a gorilla arm, right?

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It would probably take more than two to hold back one limb of this 600-pound gorilla. It would take more than two for sure.

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I didn't want to pay extra to get the sleeves imported. Like a Force Awakens one half portion of shirt. All you've scavenged for today.

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I think a gorilla could win against 25, but if I'm betting, it's 25 dudes.

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Yeah, it'd be like one to five odds, probably proportional to the amount of people there. So probably the tipping point is if you get below 20 people, it really starts to get dicey. You got to really have some coordination there to make sure that it's not able to pick you guys off.

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Or pick one person up and hit five other with one person, you know, and that's when... Yeah, well, that's kind of what I'm imagining, right?

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The tricky thing is, though, with a gorilla, it still, assuming it's a male gorilla, still has testicles to hit and still has eyes to gouge out. Now, whether or not you're going for those, that's where I'm kind of like, OK, humans are smart and they can communicate. So even if you don't have a plan going ahead of time, you could still shout, go for the eyes.

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Well, this is distractible, and that was a great introduction to what this podcast was. It's a podcast where you are trapped. Ha ha. You got tricked into this podcast. You could have picked any of the other ones on the top list, but here we are, and here you are forever and ever. You have to listen to all the episodes now. Ha ha ha ha. There's some good ones. There's some good ones. Some.

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And everyone's like, like doing this for the eyes. Like it would it would. definitely do some things 20 and below. You'd have to have that coordination. You have to have another P enough people that are willing to dive for it, which as you get lower in number, you get less percentage of random people that would be willing to like, all right, let's fucking go.

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You might have half of them that are like, I don't want to jump in there. And you might have like two or three,

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Yeah. There's this, um, like, uh, I forget where it was, but you know, like Joe Rogan always goes on about like, Oh, gorillas and no, no guy could, could take him down.

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Um, but I don't know if this was him saying or someone else on the show or someone else just talking about unrelated, but I always, I always described to this as, do you think that one guy could take a gorilla or one guy could ever take a bear ever, ever, any guy, the strongest guy on earth taking a full on grizzly bear or a

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Find the nearest tree and just scratch, scratch, and paste on that tree. Yeah. But I will say, I can't remember who said it, but it was like, you do need those people that are like, I can take a bear. Because otherwise, and again, this isn't me saying this. Otherwise, back in like caveman days, you don't take down the woolly mammoth. You don't do it.

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Unless you have that guy that's nuts and being like, nah, fuck it. Let's do this, gang. Exactly. You need your Leroy sometimes, Even though Leroy can get himself and others killed, for sure, hey, Leroy Jenkins!

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One out of every ten Leroys brought down a mammoth. That's why we're here today.

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Wait, are you miming being trapped in some kind of a cage or box?

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This reminds me a totally different subject. But you saying that, have you heard of the XF-84H Thunder Screech?

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I just pulled it up. You can talk about it.

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Yeah, my rope went through, but my head didn't. It's comedy. That's the kind of humor you can expect here in Distractible.

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Craziest fucking plane ever. They got a test pilot to do it. Cause anyone that actually tried to pilot, they would go up and immediately come back down and be like, fuck this. But finally they got someone to take a like 30 minute flight. And I think he came down with a concussion. Like he literally had a concussion by the time he landed. It was that bad.

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Hard, fast jokes faster than you can react to them. Don't even bother laughing. You're going to hear another joke so soon.

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In 200 years, we'll find out that that invention led to some other use that's completely crazy and different.

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Now, when you're trying to give birth, sometimes what you need... You know what's going to get that baby out of there? Just sonic booms going right into the womb. Just put the propeller in reverse. It sucks.

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Well, that explains why I had all those headaches a couple weeks ago.

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Well, if you were alive in 1955, that would explain many things that we know about you, but also, yeah.

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Oh, that's when they did it? They had the propellers that fast in 1955? I guess

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um if you laughed at every joke that showed up in this podcast why you'd run a last in the first 30 seconds well it's gonna be another one of those hilarious ones today because i'm hosting and that means i won the last one what disgusting story are we starting this episode with that's what we do now right we're not at all we're gonna start with whatever you guys have to say whether it's disgusting or not it's up to you do you know the original way they removed tapeworms

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Dude, I can't handle it whenever I knock over. We've used like a baby gate to keep the dogs out of certain spots. When that falls over and hits like wood or something, that noise is too loud for me. I don't want to hear a fucking sonic boom over my head.

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anyway all right so that was a side tangent oh yeah the gorillas the real thing we're going to be talking about today is actually it's one of the few suggestions that we're taking from the subreddit i don't know if you guys saw the post but someone was very excited to share this idea i don't fucking go out there anymore All right. So anyway, there's a post.

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Once you read this, you'll understand all caps make it happen subreddit. And usually if I see something like that, I'm like, I'm not going to take this idea out of spite because this is silly. But agreeable middle 769. They said they didn't make it. They found it on Pinterest.

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Before we get into it, did we figure out the number where it's 50-50 gorilla people? What is our 50-50 number?

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I want to know. 50-50? Average people, I would put it around 15 to 20 would be a 50-50 shot either way.

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Yeah, 12. I could see 12 because then a gorilla would still be like, shit, 12. If it's a number that I imagine the gorilla would be like, oh, I don't like these odds, then that's about 50-50. 12, I guess, would make sense. It's enough for everyone to get in there at once. It's enough for everyone to grab some part of this gorilla.

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It's enough you could lose some people and it's not immediately bad when you lose one. 10 is like pushing it.

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For some reason, yeah. For some reason, I'm like, 10? I think a gorilla could take 10.

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But I don't know why I'm like, ah, but 12?

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That's two more than 10.

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No, it makes sense. There's something about those kinds of thresholds. Like, 10 isn't a natural threshold. But, okay, so you have, I think, I remember seeing a documentary on the History Channel or Discovery, something about this, where if you got a tiger in the woods and they see two others, It's nowhere near as bad suddenly if it goes from 2 to 3.

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Like 1v2 is like, you could be like, okay, if I really play this right, 1v3, I'm like, there's no fucking way. So it was something about a tiger seeing that. And animals and we humans think in terms of those kind of logarithmic scales. Not necessarily binary, like doubling one to two isn't as bad as one to three is suddenly very bad, but three to four is very little difference.

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You know, you have to hit a threshold higher to suddenly, I think 12 is that threshold higher than 10. You really starts to make a difference. I don't know why, but it does. It feels that way to me.

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Anyway, the reason I talk about this is because in this post that they made, which is a post they found on Pinterest, which is a post that originally was made on Tumblr, which has 784,000 notes, there's a game that this person Flashing Lights likes to call Don't Get Me Started.

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which is where on a random topic that I'm going to give one of you guys, you have to go on an angry rant about how it's the, you just fucking don't get me started about X. When for me, it was don't get me started about a hundred people versus one gorilla. There's no fucking way that gorilla's gonna lose this fight. A hundred people, you shitting me? A hundred, like, you know, so.

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Chainsaw! A real little one. You swallow the chainsaw and it goes through your digestive tract and it'll definitely cut up that tapeworm.

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A hundred people with no legs could take down a gorilla. You know, it's just like, go off on that. Oh, that's interesting. A hundred people, no limbs? No, not no limbs. just mouths and just flop and come at me gorilla maybe maybe by pure exhaustion the gorilla would get tired by the 80th person he could probably get away with having a nap in the middle of killing everybody you know

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Yeah. Ah, man, but if you see a hundred limbless people rolling down at you, it's... Yeah, I wouldn't take that fight. That's not good. All right, so I got a random topic. Sorry, I just saw the first one.

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Who gets this one? All right, heads Wade, tails Bob. I forget if that's a normal... Sure, sure, sure.

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heads wade heads wade oh good yeah i can't wait first topic that popped up in literally the random topic generator is motherhood i mean good hey you don't have to you don't have to you could abstain yes i do so i go off on a tangent don't get me started you have to start whatever you're saying with don't get me started about

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Don't even get me started about motherhood. Motherhood, so much more complex and difficult than we give credence to. Everyone's like, oh man, being a dad, you have to deal with your wife being pregnant. She's got cravings. She's got mood swings. The baby's here. Wow, wow. I don't get as much attention as I used to. My workflow's disrupted. I don't get as much sleep.

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Mama's got chemical stuff going on. She's got chemical changes from the moment of conception all the way down through to birth. After birth, the pressure, the postpartum depression, dealing with the whiny, bitter, super upset fucking husband. Two babies in the house now instead of one.

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And that's not even talking about if anything is difficult during the pregnancy, during the birth, during the childcare. Plus adjusting to that schedule, adjusting the changes of your body, trying to go back to normal, trying to get weight off, whatever have you. Just do not even get me started.

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All right. All right. I feel like you took, uh, you, you, you try, you know, you did. I'll give you a point for it, but you didn't go the way that we all knew you should have gone. I know what way you wanted me to go.

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I'm not alienating half the fan base. Look, man, we're all playing. It's a game. My heart will go out to Elon and I'll talk about gay wind. I'm not going after moms. All right. Fair enough. Fair enough. But I'll give you a point for that, but I guess I'll give you, my balls are only so big, dude.

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All right. Bob, lighters. That's your random topic.

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Oh, give me politics. Give me abortion.

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Give me, come on, death penalty, something. Look, Wade, this one will be much more fair, but not to you. I think personally, it's random. It's so random.

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I believe it. Yeah. We have two wheels. Random topic and controversial topic wheel. No, no, it's not controversial. Thank you. But it's not fair to you. Boats. Don't even get me started on boats. We are not meant to be out on the fucking water. We're meant to be on land. We have legs. We have arms. We started crawling around on all fours. You know what you don't start off doing? Swimming.

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You're not born into a vat of tub of water, milk, or whatever have you. You're born onto land. There are water births, sure, but those aren't fucking natural. The cavemen were like, oh, baby come born, need tub of water, put on boat. No. No. We don't belong on boats. We don't belong in space. We belong on fucking dirt where we can walk and grow plants and eat ants and all that kind of shit.

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What are you going to eat on a fucking boat? Are you going to catch a bird with your bare hand? No. You need even more tools. And then you need a bigger fucking boat to hold all those tools so you can get your fish. You can get your birds. Whereas I can just walk down the fucking road and grab a goddamn squirrel off the road. Easy peasy. But you can't do that in the fucking water.

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You're going to dive in and out swim a fish? No. You're going to out fly a bird? No. Let's just waste more resources for bigger boats so we can fucking survive out there whenever we don't even need to do that shit. Oh, but it's so peaceful having a nice sea breeze flowing around, bobbing, so you get motion sick.

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And then you get to land and you walk around like an asshole for two days because, oh, I've been bobbing around like this for fucking ever. And you look stupid. You don't need a boat. Fucking Jack Sparrow over here walking around. Dun, dun. You ever see sailors get off their goddamn boats? They're like, they're not drunk. They just got off the boat. That's why they're walking like that.

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All right, Bob, yours is holidays.

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That's okay. You admitted it and you lost it. You squozed the callback in there and I think that's good. And officially that puts you in the running for most callbacks. All right, Wade. Yeah.

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Pets. Meow. honestly don't get me started on pets pets are a bigger responsibility than anyone would have you know pets they're cute they're cuddly they're fun sure but nobody wants to talk about what pets actually need money for vet bills leaky anal glands so you gotta take them to the vet once every month or two and have someone stick their fingers up their ass to release their anal glands

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Doom the Dark Age is available now on Xbox Series X and S, PlayStation 5, and PC. Rated M for Mature.

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Because apparently that's a fucking thing they don't teach you when they're like, oh, I want a cute little puppy. No, you fucking don't. You're going to gel up your fingers and shove them up Fido's ass? Well, someone has to because anal glands get clogged. It's disgusting. Oh, and then they get older. We outlive our pets. That's really sad. It sucks losing pets. Been there, done that.

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They don't train you for that shit either. But when they get old, it's not all cute, cuddly, fun games. No, I'm learning that cats stop using the litter box and they shit on the floor and they drag their ass. They go outside, they eat grass, they come inside and guess what? Oh, grass, that doesn't feel so good. Oh, I vomited. That makes me need to shit too for some reason.

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Let me just leave all of that right by the couch where you sit so your feet can either be in the nice, nasty, icky or on the lovely cleaning solution you put down. Just got a new rug. Oh boy, not marked yet. I better go mark that. Hike, piss, bleh, all over the goddamn place. Oh, I don't want to eat the food you got today, father. Oh, this canned food, it isn't what I happen to want.

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I don't want those treats today. I want what you want. Oh, that steak that you've been cooking looks great. You had to look away to crack open a drink? Fuck! Get your own food now, dad. Okay, guess I'll just fucking starve. What good do you give me? Some cuddles, some cute moments, but all of the shit. Don't get me started.

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Oh, yeah, take out the blankets, just cold hard crate with a TV monitor and this.

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That's pretty good. That's pretty good, man. All right, Bob, you're up next. What are your thoughts on donkeys? Not pet donkeys, just donkeys.

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I believe it now, you know? Do you make yourself lightheaded doing these spiels? Because I made myself lightheaded on the last one. I make my heart race.

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Just imagine all right, okay, I I that was the one worded Topics I wanted to spell it over into some things that are two sentence don't make me Don't even get me started about the scary tape There's room to expand just a little bit into something that might actually kind of be controversial I was like here's random and then I had this plan for like here's maybe something that was worth debate feed me daddy.

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I Yeah, just really crank his volume so people can hear. Alright, so Wade's dead now. Does that mean I win? Unless we want to give, like, posh. We should define that next time what happens when a host or participant dies in the episode. We don't have a contingency for that. We should have a last will and testament.

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Can you imagine if we actually just kept rolling?

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We're like, the show must go on. If we agree that we have to, if we agree that we need to keep this as in the episode, one of us dying.

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Should one of us call 911 or tell their significant other, no, well, let's finish the episode first.

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Well, man, suck if they lose. Like you spin the wheel and it just really falls out of their favor.

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Hey, they got the point for didn't participate the most.

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Okay, Wade, here's a topic. I'm not sure which side to take you on, but let's say kids having cell phones.

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Don't get me started on kids with cell phones. When we were growing up, we were lucky to have a walkie-talkie. My grandparents gave me a walkie-talkie, and if I got out of range of the walkie-talkie, grounded in trouble, not going out again. Kids with cell phones, they don't have to worry about dial-up internet like we did. They can just access whatever, whenever.

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They're in class, cell phone goes off, Uh, hold on teacher, gotta take this call. That's why they're dumb as shit and not learning anything, because they're fucking sitting there googling dumb shit, responding to their friends, texting their friends, looking at porn, making bombs, whatever teenagers do these days, that's not fucking sitting there and learning.

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We talk about the education system, family, oh, must be the teachers, oh, must be this. No, it's the goddamn stupid ass kids and their worst fucking parents giving them all this technology way too early and they don't know how to handle it because they're given it at an early age. They think, oh, I can just go off and multitask whenever. No, your brain's not that good. Our brains aren't that good.

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Human's brains aren't that good. We're all stupider for having phones in front of us at all times. Kids with cell phones, worst idea. Nothing good is coming of that. They might once in a blue moon have an important text or call that comes that doesn't have to go through the principal's office. We had a protocol for that. If something important happened, Principal comes in and her con goes off.

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Come in, we need to tell you something. Now it's, hey, grandma died, by the way, just thought you should know. Love you, and don't forget to do your homework.

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And it's like, fucking why is that on your phone?

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See? I'm gonna take that phone and beat little Timmy's fucking head in with it. Be like, are you gonna pay attention now? Are you gonna pay attention now?

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This is good therapy. We should do this more often.

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Yeah, I'm sorry to get the real ones there. Alright. Okay.

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Having been to like 100 funerals, you know what, Bob? That was spot on. That was spot on.

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Selfish bastards. Unbelievable behavior going on over here. I'm going to get some more. Oh, don't even get me started on what else you've got in there.

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Yeah. Well, I'm hitting random, you know? Well, some of them, I don't know. Do you want to wait? Do you want coffee? Because that's what's up. I will do you. You give me the topic, man. I'll make it work. All right. Well, coffee is what's what's on the motherhood just came up again. So unless you want to.

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man this thing is really trying to get in there ah mother coffee don't get me started on coffee i'm not a coffee drinker people will say they wake up to like oh the smell of a fresh cup of coffee people have their nasty yellowed coffee teeth they have their nasty coffee breath One cup of coffee when I wake up gives me some energy to start my day.

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A month later, two cups of coffee gives me the energy to start my day. A couple months later, oh man, I've not had coffee in like two hours. I'm starting to really wear down. I've only had two pots of fucking coffee today. Oh, I only need 18 forests of coffee to get through my week. You weak fucking little bitches. I don't have any coffee. I don't have any goddamn energy drinks.

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I'm really happy for you. I know that pain and I understand it very well. And I'm glad that they all applaud for you. They don't do that for me.

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I'm a fucking person who just learns to deal with it. Jesus, fuck. Oh, I need my coffee. No, you don't. You made yourself need your coffee. You got yourself on this goddamn addiction to coffee. What good has it done other than make you spend more money to get more coffee that doesn't quite get you that same high the first cup ever did? It's like your goddamn serial killer. You got your first kill.

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Oh man, I gotta do another one, see if it gets me that same high. No, the coffee will never recapture that first moment of coffee glass you had. It will never be as good. And you smell bad. It smells bad. It tastes bad. It takes up space so it could have other good things in the store. Oh, you know, you work at a place that serves coffee. You know what you do?

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Every 10 minutes, you change the fucking coffee. You throw away the nasty wrapper of coffee grounds. You start another brew of coffee. People come in. I'll have my 50 cent cup of coffee. Actually, it's a dollar today, sir. The price went up. Yeah, that's what fucking happens in the world. Prices go up. And I'm sorry you're grumpy you didn't have your cigarette and your coffee.

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Oh my God, it's not my problem. Get over it. Don't even get me started on coffee. Okay.

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You smell bad, too. Damn, man. All right, well done. All right, Bob, this would be the last one. Would be. Because by the turn and the orders that we have been in, this would be it. What are your thoughts on mining?

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It's irrelevant to our everyday life.

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Wait, who's flirting with you these days?

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Oh, my wife once a week. We schedule it. We schedule flirting time. Three o'clock! Flirt!

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I'd be more worried about lighters if I were you. Thank you. I want to hear more about that story. That's just, I'm captivated by that life.

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Alright, let's close it there. That was well done, boys. Never would have caught him if you were on a boat. Don't even get me started on boats! Alright, so that was good, guys. Man, you guys really went to. Sorry about your blood pressure. And sorry we had to relive all this. It certainly went up. So we're going to call it there. Thank you once again to Flashing Lights.

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Well, don't you look human today. Oh, babe. You don't look any more bald than I remember. You getting a haircut soon? Because you're gross.

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Is my forehead supposed to throb like that?

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You get that, like, the... A little bit, yeah.

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That's probably fine. So, I rated this in a way that I had predetermined. I gave three levels to each of these rants. And if you got to the extreme of emotion, rage, or whatever, it would be, like, progress through the levels. And so, like, I ranked it sometimes like that. But I also gave extra bonus points for memorable moments in them. Um... So there were and there were many.

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And you smell bad. Gus Chiggins, man. And tying it back to funerals, Bob, your storytelling. Listen, man, I love you. It was it was really good. I always love when Bob tells a story, whether it's real or not. I'm invested. Boilers. They're all fake.

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So in terms of the actual competition, we'll start with Bob. For lighters, I chalked it up. You got to about level two of anger. So that's two points for that. Then some people are born this way really made me laugh. So that was good. For holiday, you only got to level one of anger, but in Memorial Day really made me laugh. So I give you another one for in Memorial Day.

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uh donkeys you really you really went deep on donkeys i didn't expect that to happen but yeah you you you went all the way on donkeys to level three you went all the way on donkeys Oh, funerals. Yeah, funerals. God, that was fucking hilarious. You went to level two on anger, but didn't I give you enough when you were alive? You started off so strong that I couldn't not give you points for that.

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And then mining, that was very funny. Just so I was captivated by the story. Not as angry, but hey.

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Wade, you went pretty hard on... You didn't go very hard on motherhood, and I only gave you one point because I feel like you went pretty soft on that. You could...

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That's okay. The pitchforks are at bay today. And I think I said what needed to be said on that.

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Boats, you went all the way. And pretty much that's the story for all of your rants. You went all the way on all of them. Boats, you went to level three rage. Pets, you went to level three rage. My God. Kids with cell phones. Actually, I only counted that as level two rage. It got pretty close, but it was there. Coffee, easily level three rage. Don't know how you did it, but you did it.

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so that's that many points for that round wade you also got no memorable moments i'll do better next time blue your rants were just like pure and simple rage all the way through but you gotta admit wade or bob had some some memorable quotes oh his i will never compete with bob when it comes to telling a story and i i accept that all right wait you got points for uh scheduled flirts uh you got points for get uh get a hair it gross

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Cause I can smell that you didn't. Um, I don't know what's new. I like blueprints a lot. I'm still playing it. I had a run. So blueprints is a game. There's like a roguelite puzzle game. I,

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Get a haircut? Get a haircut. Oh, get a haircut. Gross. Yeah, okay. Get a haircut. Blueprints. You were correct about gorillas, and you suggested the 12V1 was a 50-50, which I agreed with. Bob, you got the right meds, not standard size, non-standard size, and you were also correct about gorillas. All right, so this makes it a very close game. I won't tell you how close, but it's extremely close.

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It's that kind of close where you look and you're like, that's too close. It's the close where it's concerning to me. Oh, we know what happens if you get the wheel again. Please be a one and not the listeners.

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I actually don't think Most Angry is on here. Put Most Angry. I think that's fitting with this theme.

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We've got to add Best Told Story at some point, too, which would definitely have favored Bob.

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Can't be listeners or viewers again, right?

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I think we must, don't we? I'm just making sure.

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I just made a video on it. I know all about it. Yeah, just now. Just when we recorded this.

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Wade, I think you got loudest.

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I'm a loud, obnoxious person, typically.

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All right.

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Wait, did Wade sing in this one? Was that this one? Wade was singing at the beginning, and I remember saying specifically, Bob, while you were saying fuck. I was like, you should sing that. Yeah, and I didn't. But you didn't. That point goes to Wade. Can I give a point to Wade, to Bob? Can I? Nope, you can't. Look, I've been having my bias not picking you as a winner, so everything's good.

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We're balancing out the world. I don't know that you did. I think the wheel chose me. Look, you got a coin if you could say otherwise, but, you know, if you... No, it's a coaster right now. I'm too busy. The point stand is thus. Bob, you had 17 points. A startlingly memorable storytelling, but Wade, with his constant commitment to the rage...

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I had a run that lasted like two hours. One day lasted like two hours. I had all these things fall into place. I was solving puzzles left and right. And then I unlocked this thing and this cutscene happened and I was like, oh my god, this is the best day I've ever had in this. And then the game crashed. And it reset that day. Nothing came up the same.

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it out with 19 points so with 19 to 17 wade congratulations you're the winner you also got those two bonus points thank you uh this was fun i was a little concerned when we first started i was like how am i gonna drum up feelings for certain topics i don't know and when it started with motherhood i'm not gonna lie i was really a bit concerned but This ended up being really fun.

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It was a creative way to kind of yes and the bit of just like, all right, well, I'll find a reason to be pissed off about these things. And I love boats. Everyone knows I love boats. But it was a fun challenge to be angry about boats and to find reasons to not be able to live on my boat and fish and catch birds. And I'll have to think about that next time I look at a boat.

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Also, Bob, your storytelling, man. Chef's kiss.

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Yeah, Bob, your storytelling didn't win you this one. So you're a loser. Yeah.

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I gotta say, we took shots at Kentucky. I did. And West Virginia, you did today. Any states that you want to target?

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Mark, any states you want to take shots at before we wrap up?

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No, I'm good, man. I'm equal opportunity hating. Next time we play this, maybe I'll hate amongst the best of them. There's also two other games that are associated with this post. There's one called Think About It. I want to play both of those. Yeah, you guys can take this for future episodes. Think About It, which is you're given a random topic. Your job is to build it into a conspiracy theory.

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So I'll give you a topic. I'm like, think about it, man. And then there's World's Greatest Expert, which is similar. So look forward to maybe that in the future. Thank you for the suggestion. We don't often take them. And hey, you know, we rolled the dice and it was pretty good this time. Maybe, unless everyone hated it. Which, you know, we won't know until later.

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Don't even get them started on this episode. Well, thank you everybody so much for watching and or listening, especially you listeners out there. Mwah! Wait, I shouldn't have done that for the viewer. Mwah! That's just for you listeners out there. Anyway, follow the podcast for more beautiful listening. Oh, wait, no, sorry, listeners, you didn't get the point. Sorry, I did the wrong one.

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Listeners, get it fucking together. Don't even get me started on you fucking earbags. Why don't you just... Anyway, so congratulations to the viewers who actually got the point this week. You're the best, and... but with no sound. I did a visual.

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Ah, clever. I was kind of hoping it was for the listeners because then we could have done the, what's that guy in the Watergate where they blurred out Deep Throat? Is that his nickname?

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I remembered some of the solutions and things I figured out. So I had that knowledge. But it was a crushing, defeating feeling to have that time. Everything. I was like, I need this. I got this. I need. Oh, my God, I got that. I got all these things. And then to lose it all. That was a little while ago. I posted an episode that came out on that. But I've been playing since then.

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And I've had a couple more big victory days. And I don't know. I don't do a lot of puzzle games. But I also don't know a game that I've played where I've felt more rewarded for figuring something out. Like, the way I feel, just that, like, that bit of dopamine rush or whatever it is, whenever something goes right, it's just, like, euphoric. It's so good.

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Whenever something clicks in place and you figure something out and then, like, you get to accomplish something in that game, something about it is so addicting. I'm not looking forward to the game ending. Because I just want more like on day 28 or something as of this recording But I want you to show off your rat's nest of notes and stuff.

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I don't want to spoil anything smart You can't try to read any of this all right, okay, but I've got ages of no you can't read it. It's I've got conspiracy theory. I've got useless things written down there are things I wish I'm like I go back and I see like a video I'm like Why didn't you write that down? It's painful.

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But this is more notes I've taken playing that game than I've taken since like high school or college. Podcast notes, not even close.

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Yeah, than any of the episodes of Distractible. Nothing like that. Wow, that's crazy.

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Would I write for this? Not even close to the work I put in for blueprints. I had a puzzle I was trying to solve for blueprints. This isn't a spoiler, because I got it wrong here. But I was writing down letters of things, and I was like, okay, this room. F. This room. And I was writing down different things, and I got FRIES! And I was like, oh my god, there's a food clue. FRIES!

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I kept writing down letters like FRIES! A-L-G G-H-T-K-S FRIES! What does it mean? Is that a food? I don't know. There's like a stupid recording. There's like dumb me looking at the camera like, what is fries? Does anyone know? Let me know in the comments what fries is. I love that for you. Great game.

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But man, there are moments where I feel genius and there are moments where I feel like the dumbest person alive.

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Yeah, my episode has that. I stared at a puzzle for 30 minutes, pulled it up into MS Paint, tried to like decode it, like really analyzing it.

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And then I spend like 45 minutes trying to solve it and I give up and I have to go look up something and I just... I can't tell you what it was, but it was so astronomically stupid. I had five of the eight letters that it could have possibly be. The end, the last four is song, and that's not a spoiler because that's part of the clue that you get.

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The first letter's S, and I'm like, I can't figure out what these three fucking letters are. And if I even thought of it for like two seconds, I don't know.

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On top of all the notes I just showed you, I have at least 34 photos on my phone of other things I've been like, I'm not writing this whole thing down, but something in there is important. Ker-chunk.

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If only I was taking 60 frames, photos per second of this ker-chunk of this. I don't know what time.

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and then the comment will be like wade you left six keys behind you missed four gems you missed an upgrade you forgot to open a door you turned around here you didn't see the light flashing at you at this time like i missed the most obvious shit while i'm like i'm pretty sure the dust on this table wasn't here the last time i drafted this room yeah i get that but then like the guy standing in the corner with an axe i don't notice because i'm an idiot oh god don't tell me there's a guy standing in the corner with an axe in that game

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I won't tell you if there is or isn't. Shit.

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All right.

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Well, that's fine.

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Just be on the lookout. Bob, any exciting avenues? That was so exciting on Wade's Prep.

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There is nothing worse than a non-standard size of anything. Because when something breaks, when you have a door or a window or anything that's not the exact standard size, then it's like, well, we make windows, but you want us to cut one window that's an inch thicker? Oh, that's going to cost you at least an extra $10,000. What?

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I'm glad it was just a custom-sized tarp you needed, Bob. Couldn't you have just gotten... Was it bigger, I'm guessing, than what the normal tarp would be? It was smaller. So couldn't you have just gotten an oversized tarp? Or do you just need to fix it, like, gloves over it or something?

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It's because they can't find the right size.

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Hi, welcome to Distractible. I'm not done eating my bagel, so I'm going to let these two gentlemen take over the intro for me.

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He's just singing to get the bonus point, Will. Bob, get all your bonus point things in.

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It's a container of barbecue sauce. I'm not going to eat that. I don't think any of you could eat more than the bagel I ate at the beginning of this, so I think I kind of win that one.

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Who do you think looks more like their background, me or Bob?

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I'm still bald! What a callback, right?

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I know this one. What a callback, right?

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All right. All right. All right. All right.

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This episode is brought to you by Amazon Prime. Whatever you're into, it's on Prime.

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Well, it's not just about products. Sometimes it's about shows. And Amazon Prime also comes with Prime Video.

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If you've never seen Mark before, this is him.

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we have many things to discuss today or i guess kind of discuss but i'm gonna start off with something that really you know really grinds my gears i knew you were gonna say that all right i'm giving you a bonus point in my head even though i'm not hosting i'm having the best time right now i'm having a ball don't stop now

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So I'm actually not much on the internet these days besides just browsing Reddit sometimes. So I don't know where this debate originated, but have you heard discussion about a hundred guys versus one gorilla? Yeah. Sure. Right. Okay.

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It's just, I think about this, and I can't understand anybody that's on the side of the gorilla, because... Yeah, it's a 600-pound gorilla was what I saw quoted as. But it's 100 guys. 100 guys if they all weigh 150 pounds, which might be close to average. I don't know. That's 15,000 pounds of guy. 100... Women could also take down a gorilla.

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Easy. Just sacrifice half of them to be at the bottom of the pile and you crush them all to death.

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I feel like you're in the same ballpark. It's too many guys. It's too many. All right, let's just jump all the way to 50. 50 guys, one gorilla.

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Yeah, for sure. How has your team changed as a result to this technology, if anything?

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This might be a sticky question, but do you think that from what you've seen so far that you'll be able to hire less people or outsource less and let the AI handle a vast majority of the tickets?

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Completely. It's such a big opportunity for improving our customer relationship. I mean, I think historically, I mean, not I think, I think we can all agree. Historically, no one really wants to deal with customer service. You know, having to reach out is just like, oh, such a pain. What if it's not?

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What if it's actually a great experience that greatly adds value to your interaction with this company or your purchasing from this company or whatever the case may be? I think there's such a massive opportunity for us to really move from that cost center to a center of insights and relationship building. with our customer.

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And I know pretty much everyone, everyone I know in customer experience wants to be doing that. Yet so often we're bogged down by, like you said, those doing summaries or just moving through multiple tools or just this like technical debt that we are often so burdened by, we are now being freed up to do the things that we really know are going to make an impact for our customers.

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Of course, it's our favorite topic on this show and really key strategies for a successful rollout and what opportunities are at play here. Laura, thanks so much for coming on the show. Thank you for having me. Hello, everyone. So AI and customer experience is often talked about as an efficiency tool.

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How did you go about deciding what the AI would handle versus what a human needed to handle?

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It can reduce agent workloads, it can increase automation, and of course, deliver a seamless service. But Secret Escapes, as you rolled this out, I'm sure you noticed that the reality is far more complex than just turn it on and it's magic. Tell me a little bit about why you decided to utilize agentic AI in your customer experience and how did that implementation go?

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But that distinction between easy tickets, let's call them, the FAQs, the Q&As, the simple, I have a question, here's the answer tickets, versus the more complex, I'm assuming you were in the travel industry, so people are asking questions about their trip and where to go or... what happens next, which just is a more complicated, which is more complicated in its nature. Yeah.

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Let's talk a little bit about data. Because I know that this is such a big piece when it comes to AI implementation. How did you approach preparing the data to train the AI model?

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I applaud you for being the guinea pig on such a new technology. This is not really the moment to do it yourself. And I know Mark Benioff talked about this at Dreamforce this year. He's like, don't DIY your AI because Let's leverage the expertise here.

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I am hearing that time and time again, every single person we've had on the show talking about, AI implementation, especially agentic AI implementation, it really comes down to your data.

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And I think that as any team is thinking about their rollout, we have to consider the upfront work of gathering your data, improving your data, ensuring that you have everything in the right place before you turn it on. And I'm curious to know your thoughts on like how much time did it take your team to to prepare? Like, I imagine there was a quite a bit of upfront work.

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Were you prepared for that? Would you do it differently next time?

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Yeah. Okay. So we need to think about either carving out our own capacity if we're trying to do it all ourselves, but really are there experts that we can help, that we can bring on to expand our capacity and actually move through all the work that needs to be done as quickly as possible.

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Yeah, completely. This is not... really the moment to do it yourself. And I know Mark Benioff talked about this at Dreamforce this year. He was like, don't DIY your AI. Let's leverage the expertise here. It's new. We can learn from others. Exactly.

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Totally, totally. I'm curious to get your thoughts on insights and actually gathering customer data that you're using to create insights internally. Have you found that this has been helping or hurting your ability to really listen to the customer and understand their challenges?

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This is incredible. Customer effort score, CES, just in case everyone isn't familiar with that term, is one of the most important metrics in customer experience. If you think about reaching out to a company and it is difficult to get in touch, it is difficult to solve your problem, you... think less of that company. You trust that company less, you want to do business with them less.

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We need to be thinking about customer effort. And it is one of the most beautiful results of AI is that we can really help to improve the, or I guess, decrease the effort that it takes in order to reach out. So I love to hear that. And sorry, I'll let you continue.

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And I think, you know, you mentioned that you've actually increased the number of interactions a human is having with your customer. Yeah. And sometimes people think like, oh, that might be negative, but we want to talk to our customers. If we can talk to our customers about real meaningful things, that's an opportunity for us to build trust with that customer.

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If we're able to solve those really quick issues. issues and the AI can handle it. Great. Get those off our plates. But let's actually speaking to a customer can actually be really beneficial. So I always say to people, don't be afraid to talk to your customer. It's a goldmine of insights.

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or just give up altogether and never give up. Exactly. Exactly. And so going back to what we spoke about earlier, customer lifetime value, if they're giving up because they can't get through your bot, you're losing that customer for life versus if you can really support them and bring them in, you're extending the life cycle of that customer potentially.

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So what is next, Laura? What are you looking forward to as you move forward in this journey?

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There's so much opportunity. And just in you sharing this story, I think it really explains how early we are in our agentic AI journey collectively and how much possibility there is. I mean, just hearing, when did you first roll out agent force? Like when, when was the first date you turned it on?

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Okay. So you are early, early on that. It is April 2nd for everyone's contacts. So they're only a couple months in. Yeah. And so many learnings have been taking place. So I'm very excited to keep in touch and hear how all of this is progressing and what new use cases you're coming to find. Yeah. Thank you. So Laura, we have two last questions that we like to ask all of our guests.

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And the first is, I'd like to hear about a recent experience you had with a brand that left you impressed. Why was that experience amazing?

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Amazing. And so they leaned in to your interaction versus leaning out and trying to just solve it quickly. Exactly. And I think that is really bringing it back to the AI conversation, the opportunity here. There's such a big opportunity for us to free up time and space and actually lean into those customer interactions versus leaning out.

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Definitely. Let's think about the long-term. It's a long-term game here in customer experience. We all know it. And it's so important.

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Exactly. So my last question for you, I'm going to put a little twist on it. If anyone listens to this show frequently, we're going to do a spin. What piece of advice should every customer experience leader who is rolling out AI hear?

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Let's focus on the human advantage. Yeah. Thank you so much, Laura. This has been a masterclass in what leaders need to be thinking about as we implement AI in our customer experience and the opportunities at play. I really appreciate you coming on the show to share all of this with us. And I can't wait to see where it goes. Thank you.

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Totally. Well, I applaud you for being the guinea pig on such a new technology, but also a technology that has so much potential and also immediate potential. We're going to get into all of that stuff. But I think that, you know, with any organization, with any CX org, the sooner the better. Right.

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The sooner we dive in, even if there's going to be challenges, at least we're learning and we're growing right from the outset.

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Of course. Let's talk a little bit about the challenges that you faced. And I know so many people who are embarking on their own AI journey. I have a lot of clients in this space. There's often like, oh, I didn't expect that to be a challenge. Tell us a little bit about what you faced as you started rolling out AgentForce. Yeah.

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Yeah, for sure. For sure. I mean, I think the nature of... agentic AI. And I want to just ground everyone. And that is what we are talking about is agentic AI. It goes beyond a chatbot. It goes beyond a LLM. This is really almost a virtual employee that we are training to act on your team's behalf within a certain set of guardrails.

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And for anyone listening, if you want to go and hear more about agentic AI and Salesforce's journey, of Agentic AI. Check out our episode with Bernard Sloey, who's the SVP of digital customer success at Salesforce. But I think it's really fascinating to hear your take on it because it is different for every company, the types of things that you run into.

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And what you were just sharing about how it was harder to show the ROI. I'd love to go a level deeper on that piece. And why is that? Because everyone's saying, okay, let's roll this out because it's going to drive cost savings. And there's It is yes. And and so I'd love to hear a little bit about what was challenging about that.

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I'm sure you notice that the reality is far more complex than just turn it on and it's magic.

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Yeah. I love that you say that. I think a lot about how the real benefit to AI, of course, there are those cost savings, but we need to play with it and tweak it and find how can we use this in a way that's both preserving the quality of our customer experience and and allowing us to speed things up. And it takes experimentation. It's not an out of the box, you just save 20%.

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We need to work on it a little bit. But the real benefit here is the customer lifetime value. If we think about creating a great experience using AI and the trust it can build with the customer, I'm more interested in that metric, in what drives customer lifetime value. How do we extend that? How do we improve that through AI technology? So I think you're totally right.

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ROI isn't the straight up metric that we should be looking at. There's more to it that goes beyond the simple return on investment. In another context or flipping the script a little bit, were there any unexpected benefits that you found when rolling out AgentForce?

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Hello, everyone, and welcome to Experts of Experience. I'm your host, Lauren Wood. The AI revolution in customer experience is everywhere in the headlines and especially on LinkedIn. But what's happening behind the scenes is perhaps another story. What does the implementation actually look like when you move past the buzzwords into the real world application?

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I mean, that's the fascinating thing about what we're doing here is that literally anyone can go in and train. But I'm sure there was a learning curve to that as well. Like, how do you actually train an AI agent? must be different than a human. What did you learn as you started that adventure?

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So what did you use to initially train the agents?

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Okay. But then how did you consistently improve it? Tell me a little bit about your QA process.

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Social media takes a long time to edit and to post stuff all the time.

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So like with Egg PhD, they've been telling me the story a little bit, but there's some other either company or people that were doing like a farm show or something, and they're like,

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we can do that or their dad's like we you can do that and so then they just started making episodes and it was scripted right away which the cool thing about it now is they are not scripted they just they just talk and it's just got to be right on the money because it's on national tv and stuff so they time that and they just can talk and they don't have to have a script or anything but it just started 25 or 20 something years ago

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and they just did it every single week, and then it just started to grow, I guess, after they did it. So that's kind of how they started. They just got told they were going to do it, basically, by their dad, and then it's turned into what it is now.

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I like being out with the farmer, trying to educate him on what practices have been working and what don't, and try to make them the most money as possible.

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uh probably corn but i mean it yeah because corn's fun corn right everyone wants to buy corn even when they can't make money with it would you rather you already said probably be in the field versus in a lab yeah in the field and the field's fun because yeah because then you get to see thing i mean you have no idea what you're going to see out in the field and that's what makes it really cool would you rather be in the studio or in the cab

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Ooh. That's a great question, actually. It's fun to do both. It's fun to do both. I'd probably say I don't get to do it as much, but probably be in the cab. It depends on what I'm running, I guess. Okay, then combine or grain cart?

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combine is fun and is it a grain cart or an auger wagon or a catch car or a chaser bin uh grain we we run i used to always run the grain cart there we go and uh that's right i don't get to run the combine but if i got to it'd be really fun so would you rather hold on i want to hold your question because now i'm curious about you guys would you rather sit in a cab or sit in the studio

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Well, since we're in Iowa, probably Iowa. All right. Just a second. How do things look in South Dakota? Pretty good. So we got a flood at the beginning of the year. I don't know if you saw any of those videos. It was pretty bad. But so all the bottom ground kind of like got flooded out or got severely damaged. But all the stuff that didn't get flooded out actually looks pretty good. So we'll see.

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I mean, it'll be probably average because some was really good and some was really bad. But it all in all looks pretty good, I'd say.

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No, if you've met him before, he will probably not be done doing what he's doing for a long time. He's one of those farmers. He's going to do it until he dies. Yeah, he loves doing what he does. So I don't know when he's going to do anything different, but he loves it.

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So you guys asked me how Ag PhD started, which wasn't really me, but how did you guys get started with this?

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Yeah. It's really cool to be, like, in person and do it and not having to, like, just fly out or like drive out just for like a couple hours and drive back and stuff. It's awesome.

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Yeah, I got my drone license, which I needed to have it apparently when I found out because I was going to do drone stuff. I needed to get the license because then at least you're a little bit more –

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regulatory with the faa so that was good but no i do some drone stuff i don't like if you see on egg phd we have a couple drone pilots so it's usually the other guy doing it for egg phd but i'll do some of my own stuff just when we're out farming

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Honestly, it was actually about yesterday's stuff, to be honest. When I wasn't even thinking about, like, yesterday we had so much stuff going on, I was like, oh, we just got to do this and this. And then I also thought, you guys were posting a lot, and I'm like, this is great. I love this. Just let them do their thing. I'll be fine. No, that's actually on me. to be honest.

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I was just thinking about yesterday's stuff because I was like, we got so much stuff going on.

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Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I like that, though. I schedule a lot of stuff, too, though. I mean, if I didn't hear, it would be like a nightmare. I feel like he's my guy.

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So this won't get out in time, but I want to tell you guys what Gavin told me yesterday on stage at Fent or at Agco. He said the best thing about Farm Progress is the after party. Oh, yeah.

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So are you coming? Yep.

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yeah that's sweet so since we're in the John Deere booth I have a couple questions for you guys about so you guys went to like the innovation John Deere or John Deere Center what was that place about and what were is there like cool things that are coming or what

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Yeah, and this right here is exactly why I like talking to other people in the ag industry or farmers because you learn all this stuff that you got to experience, which it would be awesome if I could experience that, but just then you get that secondhand experience and you know what's happening or what's coming next, and it's really cool to listen to that.

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Well, I was curious about the Classic because I'd never been, but I've seen about it before.

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I work at Hefty Seed Company as an agronomist, and I work with Ag PhD with my dad and uncle. We farm as well. We farm about 3,500 acres in Baltic, South Dakota, a small town by Sioux Falls. And we host a field day there right at our farm each year. And it's super fun getting to talk to people about agriculture and learning more about agronomy.

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And the golf course is ag. I mean, it is, you're growing grass and to make it look that good, you got to know what you're doing.

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Yeah, so they have a... A team for Egg PhD that edits the show and films the show, basically. And then we have a couple of guys that are on the farm that work for us that do basically the day-to-day stuff, like spraying a bunch, because they're always out there spraying, combining, planting, and all that stuff. So they kind of have two separate sides of it.

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And Egg PhD I've gotten into more, and social media takes a long time to...

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So I only started agronomy just a few years ago in college. That's really taken off since. I mean, I grew up around it, but I never really got into it as much as I did when I went to college. And then when I came back to the farm and to the business, there's just a lot to learn. And just getting to know more about it every single day is really awesome. So go ahead.

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and like not usually every day depending on how many how much acres you have but you're not in it every single day there's a lot to it i mean there's a lot to everything you do but just because it looks like that on social media too just like oh they're just driving combine or driving the combine today yep it i mean it takes a lot to line that up line up their grain carts line up their trucks all that

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A little bit. It's pretty much all hands on deck like the week before because everyone's setting up for it. And honestly, yeah, you guys should probably come up.

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Yeah. But it's only one day, right? Yeah, it's one day. And you would love it because it's mainly focused on agronomy. So we have different plots that we grow for all of the different companies that are there. So they all have their own plots. And then my dad and uncle, they drive you through all the plots and talk to you about what every single person's doing.

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And so then you get a chance to see what everyone's doing. You get a chance to talk to those people. And it's really fun. Yeah, it's a cool event. And It's down to more of a science now since we've done it so many times. It's pretty cool. It's a lot different than this because this has more permanent structures, a lot of equipment. It's bigger.

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There's more people here because there's a lot more things going on, but it's cool. Why just one day? Because then you can be the happiest, smiliest person for one day and then you're done. So if you're doing that for three days, it's a lot tougher to do that.

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And so my dad always says, you can be the most fun, happiest person, and be the best customer relations person for all the people that attend. And people there say that. I mean, they see you smiling and just having a good time because it's one day. And you can do it for one day if you need to.

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We're going to have to get you guys there, and then we'll have our own after-party thing. There we go. But, no, everyone comes in the day before, and then all the exhibitors and all the people working or people that are speaking, they all come in the day before, and there's like a little orientation where everyone talks, everyone has dinner before the show, and then the next day is just –

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all hands on deck crazy and it's super fun so where do you stay or where is it at so it's at baltic it's at our farm literally on our farm okay um just 10 miles north of sioux falls and so i live in baltic so it's not too far of a drive but the traffic i mean at any big farm show it can kind of get a little crazy so there's enough hotels and airbnbs and stuff in baltic and around to keep everyone not baltic but in sioux falls so it's like it's only about 15 minutes away but

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Have you been to Decatur?

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No, which is crazy. I didn't have much background in agronomy. Went straight into agronomy and agribusiness in college and just loved it since then.

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It's far away.

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It's like here's Sioux Falls, here's Rapid City.

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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"

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I think that would be cool. Then you could travel to all the shows and then be like, there's the farm for profit.

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Maybe he'll let us borrow his plane. If we had one, I would let you. I can't believe you don't. No, they're so expensive. It's unreal. We don't really go around all the time.

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Which, speaking about that, it's kind of... I mean, those guys are crazy, and it's so dangerous. That's why... I think drones eventually are going to be something that everyone utilizes a lot more, especially if you can't get through the field because it's so dangerous doing that. And, I mean, there's a lot of smaller farms.

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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"

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Drones on, like, a big, wide-open field is probably not ready for that yet. But I think at some point it could be. And so that would be something that would maybe save some people, I guess.

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Not that much, really. They... They took a different approach from their dad. And so their dad always wanted them to be safe and to not be in equipment or around equipment when they were young just so that there was no issue or no problems there. And so that's what they did with me too.

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I mean, we have some that are different and whatever. And we have some rolling hills and stuff, so it kind of gets a little challenging there, but... It's pretty, that's about the average size.

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No, I don't know for sure on that. I know in like Sioux City they have a lot of stuff. I sent some hogs to Supreme.

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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"

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Well, one of the things is just taking straight off of what we're already doing, doing basically Ag PhD, but on social media, because a lot of people now are just on social media. They're not always watching TV and stuff like that, or they're listening to podcasts. And so that's what I've been telling my family is, It's good to be on social media.

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I mean, I get how it can be a little bit nerve-wracking right away in doing it. But that's where a lot of people are here to learn. And if farmers are on there wanting to get more information, that's where we should put out our short information that can help teach them or show them what they might want to change or try on their farm. And so that's where I think...

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Doing more on social media is what I brought back to the business is wanting to be on there because that's where people are. And I want to show them, I mean, all the education that my dad and uncle have. Yeah, I love it.

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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"

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I heard they were talking to you guys, and you guys didn't want to be on the show or something. On Acres? Yeah, I don't know. I don't work with all of them. I just heard that I told them, I was like, we should have Farm for Profit. That would be a cool show to be on there, and they're like, I don't do that.

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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"

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yeah yeah yeah and i i think it'll be cool and i mean you guys are cool and it's fun i mean you guys if you ever were doing that with us then i mean we'd be able to hang out more see you guys and go into different another farm show that you guys haven't been to before well we we have made some uh changes that are coming here in the next two weeks that will allow us to more easily uh

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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"

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So I'd be mowing the lawns and stuff like that typically or keeping the grounds nice because mowing is not too difficult and it's not too dangerous too. So that's what I would do growing up. And then once I... Got old enough, then I started working, doing more things around the farm and stuff.

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That's a tough question. I think it's all about setting a schedule for me personally, which is straight up what Tanner does too. But putting out what you want to do or getting it done. That's why I come in here early in the morning. You get your stuff done, and then you can go do your other things or be with your family and stuff.

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And that's what my dad always has talked to me about is setting your schedule or getting your stuff done that you need to and not procrastinating to –

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I mean, sometimes you get stuck, and you've got to come here for four days for me, and I mean, that's away from your family, but then other times you're doing other things with your family, and it's just trying to balance all that out, and it's tough for sure, but once you start getting into it and doing it, then you can juggle it a little bit.

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Yeah, and my girlfriend's a teacher, so she – Yeah, that's a good schedule, though.

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So on all social media, my handle is at Zach.hefty, and that's where you can find me. I'm posting more stuff on there as I'm trying to balance my work and personal life, and it's really fun. But, yeah, that's where you can find me, or you can follow Ag PhD online. on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, and we're doing posts on there too. So that's another way for farmers to get educated and check out.

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Change my ad to Prince Hefty.

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You wouldn't even understand how many people, when I'd grow up, would sing that song.

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Hefty, hefty. I never even thought about it. It was unreal. Because people, I mean, all of them weren't farmers, so that's all they heard.

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Yeah, whenever we would go to airports or stuff like that, there'd always be farmers stopping them and talking to them. And when I was younger, I didn't really get why they were doing that because he's just my dad or uncle around me and not someone that teaches agriculture. So it was fun to do that or to see that.

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Well, I'm starting into that journey, starting here on the podcast, doing other things. I really like to learn about agriculture, teach agriculture and show farmers and show people around the world what farming is like and showing the good story and sharing the good story of ag, which maybe gets missed sometimes.

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So people don't always know what's happening in agriculture or they're curious about it. And I just like to show what We do an egg and teach people about it.

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Content creator.

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So if you see Ag PhD on social media, that's me, basically, running that. So started that not that long ago, really, and... just repurposing some content because they post Egg PhD every single week, brand new show, and then radio show every single weekday, there's a new show. And so I do Egg PhD social media. And then obviously, both my dad and uncle are agronomists. So they teach me a lot of

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agronomy and so I'm out in the field in our fields a lot scouting and trying to figure out what we have going on in our field to figure out how to stop it or control weeds or insects or whatever so we're doing a lot of that and then also working with some farmers too

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and like not usually every day, depending on how much acres you have, but you're not in it every single day. There's a lot to it. I mean, there's a lot to everything you do.

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Yeah, it's awesome. And I haven't even seen the whole show yet. Okay. But just walking around, seeing a bunch of people, a bunch of farmers being here, I mean, it's awesome.

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Yeah, mainly with Hefty, just working with our agronomists and learning agronomy basically is what I do and help out any way that I can. But mainly just learning agronomy is my main thing that I do. How big is the Hefty team? You said helping your agronomist.

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Well, there's multiple different stores, obviously, with Hefty Seeds. So there's a couple hundred agronomists probably, but just talking with them. And they're in different areas, too. And that's what I find really interesting about agriculture is agriculture right here has nothing to do with agriculture far away.

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So when you talk to those other agronomists or other farmers in other places, it's completely different than what it was.

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I have a girlfriend. We're getting close. Awesome. That's really cool. It's cool. We've been dating for a while, though. Is she into agriculture also? No. She has no idea about agriculture.

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So it's in between that. About two and a half years.

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So I have a question for you guys.

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What's the story on the cool shirts?

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Join Corey. You boys want some popsicles? David. So Tanner, what I really got to know is the juice worth the squeeze. And Tanner. All right, it's about time to wrap this baby up. They're my favorite, like Farm for Fun. It's time to put aside the stress of the work boots, sit down, grab your favorite adult beverage, and listen to the boys from Farm for Profit. Yay, it says applause.

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Yeah, that's awesome.

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That's really cool.

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Yeah, it is. That's a great question. Once you start wearing it, though, then it's for another reason. It's not just, oh, it's a fashion. I just like to wear that. It's because of another reason.

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and it needs to be long-sleeve sometimes. We could do that.

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It was pretty insane because I grew up around going to this event my whole life. Okay. And it always just seemed like if you were a speaker there, you just were like the coolest person. Because when you're growing up, you always see all these speakers and you're like, oh, they get to go speak in front of people. And so it was cool. It's not like I was the only speaker. I was moderating.

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I was talking to Michelle Martin and Tony Reed, which are really cool guests to have. It was fun. But no, I was... kind of blown away that I even got asked to do it.

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Yeah, he's a really nice guy to meet. He's not, I mean...

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Um, I just like talking to people and they were always doing that and talking in front of people and just, they just said, you just got to practice and do it. And I was like, okay, well I'll start doing that. But I like social media. And so that was kind of my way.

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to talk to people more and then I started doing that more and more and obviously when you first start out which you guys probably went through too it sucks right away and you're like super nervous and you are like oh this is so bad and I don't know what I'm doing but as you do it just a few times you start getting really good at it and then it starts being fun no we started off being great

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So now we're down to trust.

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Not without him wanting it and the trust and where he'll say, you know something, I don't need to have my exes nudes in my phone.

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You got to call it a day.

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You got to really find out, you know, and they really need to be honest. What do they want? And really just say, you know, tell me what you want, because I only want really what we both want. And if you feel any reason in the world that this relationship isn't what you want, just tell me now. And we can easily just unwind things and we can do it responsibly.

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And I said, don't worry, we can take it back and we'll fix it at the hangar. And we took this thing back to the hanger and we glued it back together. And I said, and you saw the glue marks. I said, it's okay. Because sometimes you break something and you put it back together. There's a scar, but they can heal.

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And sometimes that's really a hard thing for people to even still admit, right? But you got to really come up with the reality that you can't stay together because of codependency, but the fact that you really do truly, truly care. Today, I was listening to a funeral of a rabbi who died at the age of 92. And I listened for a two and a half, I think it was like a two-hour funeral. It was long. Wow.

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But this guy was amazing. And the love of his life was his bride, who he asked her to marry him five days into the relationship after meeting them.

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And they were together. Those love bombs were together for 60 some odd years. Wow. And they talk about how even, and a friend of mine was a relative of this person. And he wrote love letters to her all the time. And he posts love letters on Facebook to her. Facebook? On Facebook.

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He did until the day he died, which was two days ago. It was an amazing guy. You can certainly look up his funeral, Alvin Sugarman from a synagogue in Atlanta, Georgia. Amazing, amazing funeral. Something that was inspirational about love and about communicating with people. And it made a difference for me.

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Anyways, we now can move on.

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Number three.

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We're going to go to number three.

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That was quite a bit of spirit.

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So some of these relationships, because they were bad or something happened, if it means a lot enough to the two of you and you're willing to do whatever it takes to build that trust.

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So does he, does she say, Hey, is this a person you want to have as a friend? And are we going to all be friends? I mean, if, I mean, I'm, if, if we are friends, let alone a couple and you want to have this person in your life, don't you think we should all be in each other, you know, be friends and get to know each other. Cause if you like her, I'm sure I'll like her too and see what happens.

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There is a shot to getting it.

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And read that answer. I mean, look, unless you have a real reason to believe not to trust him, let's put him at the point where we can trust him. Have him do the work to really make you feel comfortable. You can even be honest and say, I'm not comfortable. Can you get me comfortable here? That's what I'm asking.

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I can't wait to hear.

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Not a lot, but something.

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Yes. Story number one.

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My first thought, Morgan, was if it was a guy, would she be upset? And then I would say- No. I would say the bottom line is at this point in time, yeah, she may not have been upset if it was a guy. And maybe he wouldn't have told the guy that I have a girlfriend at home waiting for me. But the reality is where we are today, it is up to him to make her feel comfortable with this friendship.

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And she could point blank say, look, if it was a guy or a girl- When we find people that are close to us, we are a couple. And it would be nice that we can grow with our friends as a couple. And I believe in that.

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How about this one?

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And she's talking to her girlfriend when she gets home and she goes, and is he married? He didn't mention anything.

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I mean, you're connecting. You're becoming great friends.

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You've been holding that on us? There's more?

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Well, it's gone.

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We go back to radar, Morgan.

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So I just want to start the show by really telling everyone last week's episode. Hold on. I want to really say thank you so much for all your input for last week's show. It was fantastic. The comments, I read every one of them. Except for probably some of the came that might've come in today, but yeah, but I really think it's great. And I love that we get different actions and different thoughts.

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It's the only way it's going to work.

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Again, pay attention to your radar. And when they lie to you, they're fucking up your radar. You got to make sure if these people that have dropped the ball in the past, even when you start a relationship and you have an issue with it, say, I've had issues with trust.

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be patient with me, but you're going to have to really, everything that goes on in life, we have to be totally honest with each other, what we think, because that's how you get to the part where you can trust people when they're literally transparent and you don't see anything going wrong. And the first time you do see something that's AWOL, you can say, why do I feel AWOL on this one?

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Can you help me with it? And then they'll, if they care, They will. If they're defensive and they're assholes, you know that they're guilty. There's a problem.

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Pay attention to your radar.

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You know, I've been very fortunate. The last relationships I've had, honesty was not the problem.

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And that's what you got to make sure. Honesty is not the problem because that is the easiest problem where you can start getting big problems.

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she started to feel insecure. Why? That's the first, that's the first thing. Was there something real there that somebody wasn't being honest that her radar is going off and all of a sudden, because the radar is going off and they're not getting through it, then he's like blaming her for being accusatory.

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Maybe, maybe she is just being insecure, but maybe there's something more that this was just the way of breaking off the relationship because he couldn't deal with being accused of something that maybe he was guilty of. We don't know.

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So here, here's the way I see it. Either way, it worked out for that couple not to make it. And they, they both moved on because if he wasn't cheating and, then she couldn't deal with, she was too insecure for him to have a real relationship with, and he couldn't satisfy her ability of not getting secured. And if he was cheating, she got away with a warning.

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So this is going to get a lot of action. So I know you guys all think I'm in la la land. It's okay. I can go along with this.

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My son-in-law to be, he says, I'm in la la land. I live in a place that nobody else. I dated a woman. I trusted her implicitly. I don't change that, that word today that I trusted her implicitly. She liked to go to, uh, in her trade to, to, to, to conventions, to trade shows, uh, Her ex-boyfriend also loved to go, was in this industry, and he liked to go to these trade shows.

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They would go to- Together. They would travel, meet each other in this town.

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They'd share a hotel room.

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Now, did I think for a second that there was a problem with this? Not for a second. Now everybody else out there will say, Jerry, you're out of your fucking mind.

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And I had no problem. I've had dinner with him and his family and her. I saw nothing wrong with it.

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Me, me, but again.

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I think that also, Justin, you guys have a line of communication that prevents any of that nonsense. And I do know that I've had relationships where my partner cheated on me and lied to me and fucked with my radar. And what really happens is that I was able to get my radar back after years. And now if I see anything's inconsistent, I'm gone.

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I don't even waste, if I don't feel that I'm getting the truth or anything's inconsistent, I just trust my radar and say, cut it.

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Got to get healed. And if you end a relationship before you go on another relationship, take six months to a year. It's okay.

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Even my relationship of last, I mean, I broke it off and I still took eight months before I started really going out again.

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I mean, you've got to be healthy. Even if you did it and just focus on other things and worrying about dating. And then when you start getting back into it, at least you're a little more healed and able to receive that person fully and give them the opportunity of really getting inside of you to feel you.

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Okay, let's hear about Nate.

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What you are going through to me does not sound like enmeshment.

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But what I do see is that because he's being a teenager and everyone just says, he's just a teenager, it's just a phase. That doesn't mean you have to allow it to continue that way. I think that you need to partner with your husband and really go into some family dynamics to do things together to really... So he really appreciates the love and is able to focus on your family unit.

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I love the movie with Robin Williams when they drove the great big green turd around the city.

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This is the movie where they had the motorhome.

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Wow. So the movie RV with Robin Williams is a perfect example of this. And there are many, many different pieces that have been created to honor this misery. I went through with Matthew. I dated a woman that had a 15-year-old son at the time, and it was difficult. And they're not always into doing things that are not hazardous to their health. I will say that to say the least.

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So sometimes we're lucky we get them back. Sometimes we're unlucky, we don't get them back. So you can't just take your husband's thought that, hey, he's just a teenager, it's okay.

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It isn't. So definitely I would plan some family outings in time that we say, guys, we're a family and we're going to do this. This is not a meshment. This is the fact that you really do need to let them know that family is number one and there's a responsibility to our love of our family.

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I have a fellow that I've met recently at the airport because we all know that I like to get involved with airplanes. And there's a kid who was 15 years old and he's learning to fly and he's very responsible and he's very connected with his parents and he's a good kid. They're out there.

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So fantastic. Hi, everybody, and welcome to this week's episode with Morgan and Dad. And Father knows something. I do know something.

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And it's about the parents on some of the stuff that they work as a team to create these people and to help them see what is right from wrong.

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Man, this is the tie of last week's show, next week's show, and this show.

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And also work.

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It doesn't hurt.

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And it was tough to get you guys to do it. Matthew was almost impossible.

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Yes, but you didn't want to create tissues.

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You were funny.

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She would never do dishes. I didn't want to touch food.

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Let me just kind of hit it from right where the heart of it is.

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We'll get you some self-help tapes on this.

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And my final thing is, is I'm going to reaffirm. Your husband's your partner and he's got to get very active.

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And if you guys need to get some counseling on how to really do this, then maybe you guys got to start there and then come back and implement it with your son. Because he's 15. You're the adults. You're the parents.

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The heart of this thing in the way that I see it is that you are having a relationship issue to start with. Forget Aiden. I mean, if everything was perfect with John and John wasn't being negative and John wasn't trying to humiliate you and do things that are not nice, who knows if you'd ever even think about Aiden. You might be very balanced at home with John.

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You guide the corral.

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And your husband's extremely important to be involved.

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He's got to be involved with the son.

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And keep those cards and letters coming in, meaning make the comment.

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So thanks for being a part of our show and writing in and participating and putting us on and bringing us into your homes, your cars, your cleaning exercises.

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And are we going to have a Patreon?

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Okay. So we'll see you at the other side.

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So your first step is to deal with John. Not worry about it, because we don't even know if Aidan even knows that you're breathing or that you have a heartbeat for him. He's really out of the picture still. And before you can reach out to anyone else, you have to solve the solution of John. And How do you do that?

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I think counseling, number one, because you guys are definitely having an issue and you have a child together, it sounds like. So with the child together, it might be worth the investment of time and patience and soul searching to see if you guys can really sit down and see what it's really worth to you.

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The fact that he is checking your underwear to see if there's evidence of an affair, that's probably projections and stuff that he's done. Maybe I'm wrong. But, you know, when I watch a lot of shows and that's what the writers always put in there.

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So it's something to be really, you know, I guess therapy can bring all this stuff out and you can find out the truth. The most important thing is the truth. And if you can go to John and really get him to say, you know, John, yeah, we're adults. We are in this thing for either another 24 minutes or another 24 years or more.

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I do want to say that, you know, the one thing about we, we started with the show is that it's a safe place and that we should all feel that we can voice our opinions and we don't criticize anybody for those thoughts because it's a safe place. We listen, we think about it and we consider the thought and that we listen and we don't judge.

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So why don't we just level with each other in every factor of what truth is? That way we can really deal with our relationship and we're not going to, you know, have something get buried and get worse and all of a sudden it's an infected, you know, thorn under the skin.

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And any relationship that I've tried to be successful with, the one thing that I have done, and even with relationships I have now, is I level everything. Anything that's on my mind, I make sure that the person that I'm going out with knows what's on my mind.

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This relationship is just... Like for what? What do you think he's saying on his mind that he shouldn't?

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But that's not being honest. That's being absolutely insulting and crazy.

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That's not from love.

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That doesn't give you the right to abuse somebody.

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Poking the bear?

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So my idea of going for therapy and trying to really bring down the honesty and with, you know, I've always said when you have a discussion, have it with rules. You don't think that's anywhere. You don't think that's part of the game anymore.

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We just, we spit out an answer and we see where it goes.

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That's a great beginning. And then if it rolls into separating, at least you guys have done it with rules.

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But you got to communicate with honesty, but also with rules of being loving.

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It's a horrible thing to say. It really is.

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then you definitely guys are going to probably need some counseling to help you, some refereeing that can really help you interpret what's going on and help him to interpret what's going on so he is not mean. Because the way that he does it is pure meanness, and that's just not to be tolerated.

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And what really I find concerning is what it's going to do to the kid and a child's, you know, next generation that how he, how he, you know, puts the wires together.

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I don't know. What is the theme?

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I do believe one more thing and then I'll let this one go into the can. Meaning that we call it- We move on. We move on. Thank you. When you work with honesty and every little factor in your relationship, you're able to hold on with love more because sometimes you're dishonest because you're afraid to tell them what the truth is. And that becomes where your love starts breaking down.

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Look, you guys loved each other when you got into this thing. And something happened between then and today. And you got to kind of unwind things to see how do we, if it's possible that it hasn't been extinguished, that we care enough to make it come back and be there. But it's work. It's absolute, absolute honesty with one another.

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Because if you find out that you guys can't handle the honesty, then you already know then you're the wrong pair, wrong couple. Yeah.

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Okay, let's go. Number two.

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What's happened in the relationship?

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There's a borderline of insecurity versus reality. And we can't sit here and say which one's insecurity and which one's reality. But what I would probably do, if you don't have anything that really would suggest that there really is anything going on, I want you to say, why can't we all be friends?

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I love this. This is a good, how to build trust back up. Maybe, you know, it kind of reminded me of a story when you were a little girl and you know, we, we had, you were eight and we had a kind of a meeting of the minds or a dis meeting in the minds and you took something and threw it on the ground, you broke it. And then you cried that you're broken.

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Because typically when you're a friend with her and you find out what's going on in her life, you really do realize that she will respect you, hopefully, and make sure that a boundary isn't crossed or make you feel comfortable. There's not a boundary being crossed.

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And when people, you know, go to that extra effort, look, I have ex-girlfriends in my life. I have women that are friends in my life. I have people that I do work with that are women in my life as well as men.

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And the one thing that I've certainly have done is always made sure that the person that I am with knows these people, feels comfortable with them, and that they all know each other and there's respect. And that no one has any doubt that there's nothing going on. And nothing has been going on. I mean, I've been in a few relationships and they've all been monogamous.

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I've never derailed the relationship. If I felt the relationship was not going to be my permanent relationship, I walked the other way.

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Number three.

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I got one for you.

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Number four.

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But because it's April Fools, you know that I'm full of shit.

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No hook by crooks. All right, we're going to go for number six.

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Batter them up.

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Okay, go do it.

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Thank you.

Good Guys

Love is NOT Blind with Paige O'Brien Peck

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It's because... Number one.

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Love is NOT Blind with Paige O'Brien Peck

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I have a good one, Josh. A chef's knife?

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Love is NOT Blind with Paige O'Brien Peck

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Emasculating. It's terrible.

How About Tomorrow?

Being a Great Person, Adam's Diagnosis, LinkedIn Parents, and AI Money

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You're a bad bipolar. You're failing.

How to Take Over the World

From Orphan to Icon: The Life and Legacy of Coco Chanel

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I'm going to show you how great I am. I just want to say from the bottom of my heart, I'd like to take this chance to apologize to absolutely nobody.

I've Had It

Jailbird Lovebirds

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Who was he at the show with? I think that's the big one. No one. I don't know. Came alone.

I've Had It

Jailbird Lovebirds

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We text. We make a plan. The minute you go to the second note, now that is what someone does who has captured your child.

I've Had It

Jailbird Lovebirds

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Shut the fuck up.

I've Had It

Jailbird Lovebirds

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You could meet him like Roy. Once, two days. Yeah.

I've Had It

Jailbird Lovebirds

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I'm all out. Okay.

I've Had It

Narcissistic Dead People

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think they do kylie look it up look it up kylie look it up yeah you can order a hamburger i don't you can do that everywhere i want to know what but on the menu where it has all the menus pointed out like boxed into different things it's 420 calories it's 20 fats it's 39 carbs it's the hamburger yeah they have a hamburger Are you for real?

I've Had It

Narcissistic Dead People

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A dog came to me for money. That's what it said.

I've Had It

Feed the Strays

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She can't have anything either. The waitress would be like, so you don't want anything to drink? No. No. She won't let me have it. That's what I'm going to start saying.

It's Been a Minute

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It's all right. It's never happened. That's so generative to really see yourself in terms of what you have to offer. That's really big. I'm sorry.

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You tell your stories in a fragmented way, you know, moving from third person to second person first. And to my eye, there are common vehicles for rape narratives and entertainment and books, you know, procedural shows like SVU, personal essays, even the use of the trauma plot in like a novel or a short story or something like that. What are some other ways of veering from these narratives?

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How can we change how we talk about rape and sexual assault to make these kinds of constraints less confining?

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I sat down with Jamie to discuss trauma plot, the contours of rape narratives in our culture, and how we can move beyond them. So to jump right in, your book is titled Trauma Plot. And it starts with the defense of the trauma plot, which is something of a literary term. Maybe not everybody knows it. And so I wonder if you could tell us what is the trauma plot and what are you defending it from?

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Yeah, the show from HBO.

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This episode of It's Been a Minute was produced by Liam McBain. This episode was edited by Nina Potok. Engineering support came from Sina Lafredo. Our supervising producer is Barton Girdwood. Our executive producer is Veralyn Williams. Our VP of programming is Yolanda Sanguini. All right. That's all for this episode of It's Been a Minute from NPR. I'm Brittany Luce. Talk soon.

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Yes. For those who don't know, that's a book by Hanya Yanagihara that came out in like 2015, but it's also hugely popular on TikTok. Very, very sad book, but very popular.

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Hello, hello. I'm Brittany Luce, and you're listening to It's Been a Minute from NPR, a show about what's going on in culture and why it doesn't happen by accident. A warning, this segment contains extensive discussion about rape and sexual assault, along with some explicit language. There are a lot of big subjects that I think our culture has trouble talking about.

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When I read the trauma plot essay, well, I'll be honest, I didn't like A Little Life. But I also remember having a similar feeling actually reading that essay where I was like, well, hold on now. Like, why are we going to throw the baby out with the bathwater? Reading your book, you share a lot about your own life. But you get so deep into literature, I mean, you go back, okay?

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You discuss some of the historical rape narratives and Greek myth. I mean, you know, you note that many end with the person who was raped losing their voice or their personhood. And relatedly, a lot of people use the euphemism that rape is unspeakable. But you disagree. Your book is speaking about it. And you take care to avoid euphemism.

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In this conversation, I'll sometimes use the phrase sexual assault when I'm talking more broadly. But throughout your book, you deliberately use the word rape. What went behind that choice?

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Death, addiction, wealth, politics. But one of the toughest, I think, has to be sexual assault and rape. For how common sexual violence is, it affects over half of women and almost one in three men. It understandably can be extremely painful and even stigmatizing to discuss.

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One of the things that you talk about is feeling like your story, it has some special significance, even though what you're describing is something that's very common. So I find it really poignant and interesting to hear you say how once you started speaking the words, other people came back to you and felt a connection where maybe you were afraid that that wasn't going to happen.

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You make some critiques in the book about when sexual assault does get talked about. And you say it happens in very narrow ways, like how it played out in Me Too. You mentioned these heinous, monstrous, almost larger-than-life examples of sexual violence versus the reality that most sexual assault is more commonplace, more everyday.

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You found how we talk about rape as a culture to be limiting to you. What are the constraints on how it gets discussed?

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And in our culture, we see narratives about sexual violence play out in Law & Order SVU, in personal essays, or in the headlines. And there aren't a ton of other scripts out there.

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Now, I'm also interested in the idea that you raise about the onus of talking about sexual assault being on the victim as an extra burden because they turn into scrutinized spectacles. It makes sense that rapists might not come out and talk frankly about rape, but how do we balance the pressure of the storytelling?

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Perhaps the question is less about, like, balancing out the pressure of storytelling and more about what the purpose of disclosure is, like, instead of people having to share always what happened to them. It's maybe more like there's a lot more thinking about the conditions that create the ordinariness of rape.

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Coming up, how do you make sense of rape if rape is the opposite of meaning?

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She's the author of the new book, Trauma Plot.

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I was also really struck by something else that you wrote. I'm going to read it. But there's the rhetorical imperative bobbing its stupid head above water, and it forces you to say you learned something, that there's an edifying capacity to your pain. You know what my rapes taught me? To think of myself as worthless, as nothing, just meat. There was no lesson in them.

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Rape is the opposite of meaning. End quote. Through the whole book, you discuss all the ways you tried to make sense of these attacks on meaning. How do you approach making sense of it now?

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And Trauma Plot, which contextualizes rape in her own life and in our culture, is very unconventional. It takes her story to different points of view in separate fragments, but put together, she finds a unique way to tell both her experience and to think about one of the most common violences we face.

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I think so much of the path is the integration and synthesis between the two of a heightened sense of experience or state awareness and then the integration of that awareness. And you had a very prominent and I'm sure have had many expanded state experience that kind of blew you out of your waters for, you know, lack of a better term.

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And so if you were to distill down your life's work, what you feel like you're here to do, how would you explain that?

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I would love for you if you're open to sharing, you know, cause that was really such a big, uh, you know, Cataclysm for all the work that you've been doing over the past couple of decades. So would you share that initial story? Like what happened to you?

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So that's a lot. It's pretty cool. Pretty cool. I imagine people listening to this maybe be like, oh, I want an experience like that. What's interesting is that it was the lack of the eye seeking for an experience that was where that experience was born out of, you know, for you.

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And I'm just curious after that experience, because when you have a truly transformative experience, you know, like transformation is when a seed turns into a tree, like they don't really resemble each other at all. You know, there's traces of each other in both, but one thing transmutes into another and having a taste of your true nature.

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that is beyond the intellect um where you viscerally feel it um the oracle in the matrix says from your balls to your bones you know it's like right you you is it true knowing um that changes us on contact immediately, you know?

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And I think of how important creating an environment and conditions and spiritual practices in our life to get us to that point where we have that taste, the experiential knowing beyond the mind and how that is worth infinitely more than reading a thousand books on the topic.

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Different world. And so I'm curious, after that process, both what do you feel like shifted in you energetically and how did you try, if you did, to understand what happened?

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Yeah, that transformation, I can only imagine how it directly inspires you to support people with that process. Because when you experience a truth that's deeper than the previous one you were living in, you're like, well, why don't we work at a deeper level? Almost like Russian dolls that are nested in each other.

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Instead of, again, working with our problems at the level of the story in which they exist, working at the things that enable them at a deeper level and I think of like the five sheaths or koshas and the yogic tradition of understanding, you know, we in the West think we have like a mind, we have a body and like that's pretty much kind of it, right?

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And starting to look at these contemplative practices and yogic sciences that have been sharing for thousands of years, how we have many different kinds of bodies from the anamaya kosha, which is our food body to our energetic and mental body and to our bliss body and the causal body.

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Um, and so how do you, how do you think of that when we really kind of lack the scientific external instrumentation to be able to sort of validate these things, but we are gaining more and more the capacity to kind of do that from the outside in or from the inside, we can experience these different bodies. And so what do you think of that?

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Like, how do you see the human being as it is in their kind of the she's of the bodies in which they exist? Yeah.

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Yeah. And I love how you broke down from many different perspectives. We're, especially in the West, hyper-focused on the intellect. And we try to solve our issues or perceive problems from the level of... of the problems that of where they exist. And instead of solving problems, we can dissolve them by working at a deeper level.

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And so I love your framework of soul, body, mind in a society, again, that is so focused on the analytical way of deducing things, working at the level of the mind to start with. Why is that an important reframe to go in that order?

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No, that was all needed, all amazing. Yeah, I think of what this perspective does in terms of how it translates to how we look at our body and the root causes of disease and illness and... I remember my conversation with Rupert Spire. I think we talked about how suffering is the cost of admission for the illusion of separation.

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Perceiving us as separate divided selves is useful for being in this realm, but you're inviting the perspective to come back to realize the oneness that we're actually a part of. There's no necessarily clear boundary between me and the external world. From an energetic standpoint, absolutely. Also biologically. you know, there is no actual separation, even though it really looks like it.

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And so when you're talking about this, how does that change what we look at, how we look at disease, how we look at the body, when you're inviting this perspective of more of a root cause and working things at a more fundamental level, how does that change things?

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Bond Charge products are all HSA, FSA eligible, giving you tax-free savings of up to 40%. I hope you dig it. Back to the show. Yeah, the Western medical system has buried so many incredible fruits and yet, uh, the moment we identify with a diagnosis is almost in many ways concretizing it in our reality. And we know how just the mere thought of something can turn on our sympathetic system, right?

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We can become stressed out simply by thinking of something, just like we can become aroused by thinking of something. So we understand how our thoughts affect our physiology and our body. But you're kind of inviting a little, like even go one more step out.

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Like there are these energetic patterns in our circuitry, in our deeper sense of self-identity beliefs, which are later down the cascade affecting our physiology, creating disease, which we might be, you know, diagnosis of certain illness or cancer, which immense compassion for anybody who gets that.

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It's like a very confusing and difficult thing to wrestle with, but it is an empowering thing to see, okay, To heal something, you really need to address it at the root cause. You know, if a tree has leaves that are dying and turning brown, no matter how much spray paint of green spray paint you put on the leaves, it's not going to heal it, right? It might look like it for a while and

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until we heal the underlying root issues. And so that's why I really love the feeling code in your book and what you share as well, to work and ask when resistance comes up in our day-to-day life, it might not be this dense, gross diagnoses, but the simple resistance or stressors that come up to not ask why, but to ask where and to work with it at the level of sensation on the body.

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So can you share a little bit more about how you think about that and that process?

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Yeah, so I think of like a crank in a hose where it takes more energy for that water to push through and that's going to create resistance. Think of like our body as a vehicle. And I think of like an actual car vehicle and how if there is, you know, there's just not properly oiled, for example, or if there is a misalignment in the wheel rotation. It's requiring more energy to do the same job.

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And so, yeah, these like diversions in our energy field take more energy to uphold, which gives us less life force energy for all of our organs to function and to just like and live. Um, and so I'm curious, what do you think, like, what advice would you give to somebody that's finding persistence and some sort of resistance in their body?

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Like, for example, I kind of had this like right shoulder thing for a while and kind of my right side, some more attention. And I've done a lot of body work and I think I've gotten, I made some progress with it. I feel like there's deeper energetic things that are, of course, like we're speaking to must be tied to it. And, um, So you said instead of asking why, ask where.

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So I can feel where the resistance is in the body, hug it energetically like you're speaking to, give attention to it. And is there anything else that you would provide as like an immediate practice or just direction to explore for somebody that wants to like get deeper into dissolving kind of a root issue?

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Thank you. I appreciate that and received. And just as a side, also reflected back to you, you meet so many people in the podcast space and interesting characters. And there's that saying, those who know, knows who know. Like, you know, peace knows peace. Stillness knows stillness. And clear energy knows clear energy.

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And so it's just a privilege and an awesome chance to meet you and have you in the studio and everything.

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Yeah. There's that saying, our job is not to feel good, but to get good at feeling. And I'm just curious how you think about the emotional body and emotions and how they lead to physiological dysfunction and how there's parts of us that are just yearning to be felt fully. Because I've had many friends who have had psoriasis or a rash or some sort of persistent...

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you know, thing happening with their body and they did like an emotional release session or they fully felt something and then instantly within overnight or a couple of days, it like completely goes away, which just seems like a miracle, but it's just how things function. And so any other thoughts of how like emotions tie into that?

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Yeah, it's one of those things, I think, when people start to embark upon a spiritual journey and they, for example, maybe walk into a gift shop and they see the quote, we are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience.

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And a lot of these sayings, which, you know, sound really great on paper, but what I love about so much of your work is breaking it down to really what it actually means and how our energetic system, you know, is made up and how this has been

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It's amazing. Yeah, it's great. It's such an important reminder.

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When I think of what you just shared, and you've been kind of alluding to it throughout with the toroidal field, with the Shishuma channel, in terms of our energetic makeup and circuitry, how would you explain to somebody that doesn't know, like hasn't really heard of any of it, you know, somebody who's like in their teenage years, maybe, like how do you, what would you say are the most important things to understand about our energetic circuitry and what it is from the nadis to like however much detail you want to get into?

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you know, known for thousands of years and in a society that, again, doesn't really value the internal intercontemplative practices and ways of understanding in these wisdom traditions, people can brush to the side. And so I love the groundedness and practicality to the work in which you bring.

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What you said about the energy that built us can heal us and

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like we are this, the self-organizing system where the body's intelligence can, can do its thing when it's, when it's allowed to do so is, uh, a really welcoming reminder, um, because it returns our power back to us in a state, in a society that is very Yang or really sympathetic, uh, you know, very masculine in many ways to like go back into the Yen and the parasympathetic and allowing, um,

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In the East, there's like kind of two ways of knowing in terms of their understanding from vidya and gyan. Those are two terms that I really love to think about this from because we're all familiar with vidya, which is more like book knowledge, things we learn from a podcast like this. But gyan is like wisdom and knowledge that can't be transmitted. It's experiential understanding.

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big part of shifting into that flow, as you said, mind, body, and breath. I want to talk about the breath a little bit now because with every thought that we have, with every story that we have, it correlates

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In the Buddhist tradition, they talk about two prominent things, which is a biochemical sensation somewhere in the body, like every thought that we have or perception, and then an abnormality in the breath. Often sub-perceptual, there will be a change in our breathing patterns, where in the diaphragm and the depth of it and so on, whether it's nasally or through the mouth.

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And I think, again, a lot of what I hear and see, write and talk about is this type of knowing. the type of experience that can't be necessarily logically deduced or explained, but is a very real qualia. It's a very real experience within human consciousness.

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And so it's so sad that we aren't given the user manual of our body and how Each nostril correlates to different parts of the parasympathetic and sympathetic system and how important it is to breathe through our nose and the capacity our breath has to move energy. And so there's just so many things we're not taught about

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fundamental essence of who we are and our life force energy and how to breathe and so when you think of the breath as it is a bridge through so many of these things we're talking to um what are some of the most important things to to remind us all about the breath yes beautiful so the regulation of all systems of the body is enhanced by proper breathing

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And so I think this podcast is going to really serve people to be able to start to tap into that energy because that field that exists to all of us is such a more abundant place to live life from. I really love this quote from Ralph Waldo Emerson that says, in the mind of geniuses, we find our own neglected thoughts.

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And it's speaking to this field of knowledge that we can all tap into that is available to us all. And so how would you think about that kind of switch from only valuing knowledge that is of the intellect to a deeper sense of knowing that maybe isn't empirically rationalized as often, but is nonetheless more valuable?

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Mm-hmm. I love the invitation to work with the breath because it's something that we can all do in this moment immediately and requires no belief, no thought system, and has immediate changes in our whole system, mind, body, energy. And I love that you shared both of those in your practice of the different types of breathing to be able to ground in and move these energies and

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There was kind of a period of life where I really dove deeper into different types of breathwork practices and also... a lot of other ancillary supportive, you know, areas of focus in life from nutrition to all these things to like really purify the system as, of course, like breathing deep allows you to let go of previous like mental stories that you've had.

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And as you do the inner work and release some of those things that you've emotionally tied to, it also leads to deeper breaths. And so they like they play back and forth with each other, right?

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And it's just incredible what happens to the sensitivity of our system as we deepen and kind of go back to our natural breath and find that deeper sense of peace within ourself and what we begin to notice in our outer environment and our inner environment when that sensitivity is raised. And this can lead to amazing state experiences.

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Like I've had quite spontaneous, like energetic uprisings and like what felt like energetic kind of orgasmic, you know, sensations and moments, both spontaneously, like on plane rides while I'm in the middle of my sleep, uh, just throughout the day and how I would just describe it as like complete bliss in every cell of my body that are like humming at the frequency of love.

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And it's feels so exuberant. Um, And also very baffling. Coming out of it, I've always had it known what to really make of it because it's so... Yeah, it's just such a wild experience that you really can't use with words to explain. Yes.

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But over the years I've learned and I'm still on my journey of like of grounding that in and in working with the system as energy like has uprises and to be able to bring it back down and have more control over it. there is this concept of like, we're trying to be ascended masters. And I love how you invite the descended masters perspective.

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And so as people that start to deepen on their path, they start to work with the breath, they understand themselves as an energetic being, they have practices that support them in doing so. and they have these experiences where the energy is uprising, oftentimes it can lead to kind of floaty energy, a lot of energy in the upper centers.

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And the mastery comes in bringing it back down into the body and grounding it and integrating it, rooting it into our system as a deeper knowing. And so I'm curious, how would you explain the importance of kind of integrating and, as you say, becoming descended masters?

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Yeah, no, this is amazing. I think it's Dante's image of the tree's roots that go to hell and the branches that go to heaven and everything. you know, in many ways, like the deeper our roots are, the higher the branches can go.

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And so, you know, when, when we're talking about these different experiences, so we can have an expanded state experience, which people at any stage of consciousness could have, you know, you can have an exalted state, a blissful experience. You'll perceive it accordingly to what stage of consciousness you're at and stage of development. But then also like

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the fortification is the word you use of like actually embodying those states as a normal stage of how you go and, you know, your normal day to day experience of life becomes elevated from that place when it's integrated into the body. And so I love the invitation you have to root this in, ground this in.

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I do feel that there are many teachers and systems and retreats that people can go to to chase different state experiences where they haven't built the circuitry of the subtle body and that kind of energetic anatomy to be able to hold sustained changes.

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And it can actually be kind of disconcerting and a little bit like dangerous to be able to push people beyond these certain, you know, to go for these certain state experiences beyond their body's capacity to do it, you know, and hold it. And so that can be dangerous in some sense. And I'm curious your thoughts on that.

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Yeah, I think it allows us to stop forcing and pushing for these different state experiences. And I get this image of just like an oscillating. It's like the inhale and the exhale, the contraction, the expansion, the moment of revelation and the moment of integration.

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And how these are like forces that are like the Ida and Pingala, like, you know, weaving together to slowly build and expand the vessel of our cup, for example, for water or for divine consciousness or, you know, any, any word you want to use to hold, be able to hold it. And so it's, it's an important reminder to like realize that this path takes time and

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we all have different starting points in terms of where, you know, we were from our family and how we developed mentally, physically, energetically. And as we start to expand our capacity, then there's not a single area of life that doesn't improve from that standpoint, you know?

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That invites such a reverence to the body and mind as it is a vessel for our true nature to be held in. We get to have this experience of ourself, expand the capacity for it.

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And then the great sages of our time, whether it's Buddha or Christ, they are individuals, you would say then, that have allowed themselves to expand their vessel to then realize that they are the divine consciousness that animates it. And

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it's so inspiring to be in the presence of and also not just literally physically, which is of course a great luxury to be able to do so, but through the words and through the teachings of these individuals where their presence and what they shared emanates that love in which we originate from and that light illuminates darkness wherever they go in a sense.

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And so it's really inspiring when you see the the spiral of growth where we start to expand and recognize our true nature, what becomes available to us and how we can support ourselves and those around us. And I think when we start to see progress, when we see momentum and we see the fruits of this recognition, it becomes enticing to really devote our life to it more and more each day.

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And that's where things get really exciting because then Each day, each moment is an opportunity to be in the recognition of that and to live from that place. And our challenges and our struggles and strife then are perceived from a different place as opportunities rather for purification.

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That feeling where there's nothing you can't be with, that level of courageousness that somebody has on their path where they can be with anything, they can presence anything, and they can deepen their breath in the face of any adversity, that to me is a truly powerful individual.

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And the more that we're recognizing ourself and who we truly are in our essence, in our energy, the more that we can... see when these challenges come, um, we don't turn away from it. We can actually look, look towards it and see the gifts and the disguise and the shadow and the darkness.

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Yeah, the pleasure is mine. I'm really looking forward to this conversation. I feel like on the path of discovering who we are, there's many different levels at which we can look at the human being from. And I always just love the first principles thinking and trying to see what is like distilling down at our core who we are.

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Yeah, I think we all understand the image with somebody who wants to get in physical shape and the resistance of weights at a gym that serve to break down the tissue and then rebuild.

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But somehow we lose the metaphor when we look at our life and the greater resistances in our life that we might say we want to be loving or be patient or give grace, and yet we turn away from the bountiful opportunities that are actually allowing us to develop those qualities.

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It's like in the face of the adversities where we actually are refined and have the capacity to grow into that part of ourself.

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That's great. It's, It's that progression of the realization from like, first, everything seems like it's just coming at me and life is happening to me, right? And then you start to dissolve the barriers between what is you and what is outside of you. And you start to see life as you and as it's moving through you. And it is...

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just the most incredible recognition to experience life as life instead of me, and then there's this life outside of me. Yes, exactly.

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know looking through the eyes of sue and andre and everyone who's listening right now getting to experience itself through one another and that i think radically orients us in a different direction of what this life is and how to treat people and how to treat all life it it changes the position in which we live and i think of how what becomes available to us in this recognition and this energy

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how intuition and our sensitivity to the awareness of different intuitive hits and callings and things allow us to move more effortlessly into the direction where it's just natural alignment for what we're here to be doing, how we uniquely have the capacity to serve,

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And I think, again, it builds that positive momentum to where you start to change what you do and your behavior has become in alignment with that which you know.

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And that becomes a really important part of this whole path because it's like, yes, we recognize the true essence and then we're here to have this human experience and we continue to serve and share with the world in recognition of our true self. And it just comes from a different place, which is exciting because it almost...

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From what we're talking about, it can be sometimes perceived as like, oh, that's the end goal and then the journey kind of stops. But then it's like, okay, we're still here in this human flesh suit and we get to be animated by deeper knowing, which is amazing. Things just change from the place in which they're done, I suppose.

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everything unfolds itself we just have to get on this wave that allows for that to happen it's so good and i just feel like you kind of reference love as sort of this existential stance in which is like enables all of this to occur in the first place and it feels like in those exalted states you start to actually perceive how that is so and um

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As you lead into more heart-brain coherence and your mind and body start to actually work as one unit and how they were designed to, I'm just curious, any thoughts you have on what love is as a kind of enabler for all of this?

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That shift from discipline to devotion is, it's so viscerally felt when you bring your heart into, for example, a meditation practice, it transforms from mundane to this like magical thing because it's no longer force, it's actually for the love of it. And I think that just a reminder to notice and witness and be present to the beauty that's around us in every given moment

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it stops becoming a spiritual practice that we do and it starts becoming a spiritual reality that we are. And it is quite freeing how when you perceive the level of intelligence and beauty and the design that is in with all nature and life around you, You no longer are under the illusion of pursuing someday, one day in the future where your ideal life is going to be.

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Happiness isn't something that you're in the pursuit of anymore. It's in the recognition available to us in every moment. And that is a free individual. You're no longer... chained to the shackles of your attachments. You're really free to be witness to all the beauty of life around you.

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And the invitation that you've given so many times throughout this whole conversation of integrating it into a daily experience within your life and not this kind of one time exalted state experience, which are great for reference points, but bringing it back into daily practice is just a really important reminder

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And it makes me think of heaven, earth, you know, instead of having it heaven on earth that you spoke to earlier, realizing heaven is earth. And so as you want to share any kind of thoughts on that, the last really closing line of direction of thought that I want to share, you know, would love to have you speak to is earth as sort of an energetic body and where humanity is.

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kind of all little nodal points on this being that is mother earth. I'm curious what your thoughts are as a shifting collective consciousness is happening and more people wake up to this recognition, what you foresee coming, happening and shifting both what you have in your practice and your work with your retreats and your people that you've been working with, but then also what's to come.

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So I'll just kind of leave it to you there for any thoughts you want to share.

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Yeah, I think of how often we suffer what is... an incredible immense gift, you know, like our memory and our imagination make us unique on this planet and our capacity for both, you know, and they animate what it is to be human in so many ways. But yet we, it's like holding a knife from the sharp end instead of the handle. Like we're holding these incredible things wrong.

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And there's that great joy in, in owning our responsibility, you know, as we get to play a part, a puzzle piece on that journey of, you know, in many ways, earth kind of evolving, transmuting to that next stage of evolution. And as a species, um, there is often a great conflict, confusion, chaos, right before a transmutation in our genetic code, you know? And I think, uh,

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the more that you have an expanded awareness, the more that it's upon us to take responsibility for, for being a leader and, and, uh, of the new earth, so to speak in many ways, otherwise not living in alignment and serving how we feel we have the capacity to will cause all sorts of suffering, um, in our own internal psyche. So that invitation of responsibility, I think is, is really important.

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And, uh, Yeah, thank you so much for being a proponent of that because I know you're empowering people to really do so.

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Yeah, amazing. I really, really, really, and I say this often, but I really, really mean it. I love this conversation so much. This was really special. We dove into some amazing territory and yeah, this is awesome.

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We're so overly identified with our intellectual thought, thoughts and mind. And, um, yeah, And so putting it back in its right place is the invitation here. And it's tough to do that when we're so overly identified with our five sensory experience, missing all these other billion bits of information that is so powerful and has immense answers for our life and can point us in directions.

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Received. Thank you so much. It's the greatest joy. And I thoroughly have loved getting to connect with you and share this conversation with our digital worldwide family that gets to tune into these and that we get to feel and And so I'm looking forward to continued conversations. And yeah, thank you so much.

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The very last thing is I just want to let everyone know that they can find Dr. Su's information and websites and stuff we'll link down below. Is there anything else you want to share where people can find you or anything else?

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Amazing. Yeah. The Energy Codes book is also a great read and audio listen with more practices, I think, to accompany everything we've been speaking to. And I'm really looking forward to your new book next year that you're working on. So it's exciting. All right, everyone. Thank you so much for tuning in. Until next time, be well. Take care.

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And I just think of how often we're missing what is just around the corner of like great gifts and opportunities and people we can meet and healing, like spontaneous healing, miraculous moments from going inwards.

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And so I suppose when you think about how enchanting our five sensory experiences that plugs us into this reality, which is incredible and amazing and so helpful, but it also, it can be very illusory if we don't also turn the gaze inwards. What do you think about that kind of dichotomy?

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And I know so much of your work is like working with us at our most fundamental, essential level, at an energetic level, which is really exciting to me because all paths have value. There's many different ways up the mountain, so to speak. And yet I really appreciate the directness of this path.

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Yeah.

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

"We Hope We Dance" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

129.26

Oh, I see. Bowen, look over there. Is that culture? Las Culturistas. Ding dong.

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

"We Hope We Dance" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

2118.297

Cast your spell of night. Are you fucking kidding me? Oh, my God.

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

"We Hope We Dance" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

2214.672

Yes.

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

"We Hope We Dance" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

2463.266

Yeah.

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

"We Hope We Dance" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

2699.864

Crazy.

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

"We Hope We Dance" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

3276.484

Dance.

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

"We Hope We Dance" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

3410.523

Right.

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

"We Hope We Dance" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

3667.566

Ah, okay.

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

"We Hope We Dance" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

3779.337

Okay.

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

"We Hope We Dance" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

3784.521

Yeah.

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

"We Hope We Dance" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

4568.188

Uh-huh.

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

"We Hope We Dance" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

4634.244

Okay.

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

"We Hope We Dance" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

4846.624

Right.

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

"We Hope We Dance" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

5106.49

Provincetown, we're gonna see you there.

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

"We Hope We Dance" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

5758.812

Mm-hmm.

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

"We Hope We Dance" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

5934.718

Abracadabra! Abracadabra! Abracadabra! Abracadabra! Abracadabra! Abracadabra! Abracadabra! Abracadabra! Abracadabra!

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

"We Hope We Dance" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

5944.262

Abracadabra! Abracadabra!

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

"We Hope We Dance" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

613.284

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Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

"We Hope We Dance" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

848.562

Yeah.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

520.781

I was going to say, that's why you hire somebody from Berkeley to write your tickets because they come up with ideas like that.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

951.594

It's scary, isn't it?

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP500 Zombiecalypse im Grunewald

3550.059

Kopfhörer auf.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP500 Zombiecalypse im Grunewald

4743.616

Oder sicherheitshalber wahrscheinlich auch. Oder sicherheitshalber. Ich meinte aber KI.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP500 Zombiecalypse im Grunewald

695.211

That's the way I feel.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP500 Zombiecalypse im Grunewald

9270.342

Den Schmerz kenne ich.

Mastering Dungeons

Horizons Magazine with Hannah Rose! (MD 211)

2777.315

Maybe that's why it feels like it's gone by so fast. It's certainly been jam-packed.

Mastering Dungeons

Horizons Magazine with Hannah Rose! (MD 211)

5310.35

This is what happens if you have too much stage traditionalism at your academic institutions and people are mean to the would-be graduates during their dissertations.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

10039.123

So this wasn't like a, this wasn't a lake that had different high water marks on it on this.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

10161.25

How have people not put this together, Randall? Like, it's shocking. So you're saying that all of the megafauna, all the extinct species have been found in these deposits, in these places where the water would have flowed and just settled.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

10208.208

It's incredible that this isn't accepted.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

10220.115

Right, and nobody has done it. Nobody has taken the time to.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

10385.327

Yeah. The oral traditions. I wanted to ask you about this discovery of this civilization from Southeast Asia that was 40,000 years ago, was deep-sea fishing and catching sharks and catching tuna, and that we have hooks, we have remnants of the fish that they caught, we have some remnants of the boats now.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

10409.773

It's like, of course, if we were building, you know, of course, Ganong Padang could be man-made 26,000 years ago if this was happening 40,000 years ago, you know? It's like,

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

10429.049

Wood boats. Yeah, I think primarily wood, I think, is what they found. Ryan, you might be able to pull up that article, but yeah, there you go.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

10441.159

I mean, you're talking about going deep into the oceans. If you can do that, you can transnavigate the world.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

10457.008

deep-sea fish such as tuna and sharks, as well as fishing hooks, gorges, and net weights. So they're using nets, they're using ropes, they're using hooks, they're creating boats that go deep into the ocean. I mean, this is all very new news that's like, I don't feel like this has gotten enough attention yet.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

10933.853

And why do you think it's the Azores? I know you've talked about this. There's a lot of evidence for it, but can you hit the highlights of the evidence?

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

11031.92

And what do you think would be found there if people started diving and searching and.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

11040.663

It's like 5,000 feet, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So not, yeah, not maybe not.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

1106.655

Yeah, but you've seen the pictures of him in the hospital.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

11247.113

What are you, so Jimmy Corsetti's description of Atlantis is, he's more on the- In Mauritania. Right, right, the Richat structure. Richat structure. Yeah, I mean, that, I've- I really admire both of your works on this, and I don't see why it can't be both, like why the capital city couldn't be the Rishad structure.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

11548.035

I mean, if you've got a civilization 40,000 years ago that was navigating the oceans, I mean, why couldn't they be? I mean, that's Southeast Asia. Why couldn't they be in the Azores? Why couldn't they be? Well, yeah, that's exactly the point. Just all over.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

11567.17

Yeah. So, I mean, it could be, they could have had, the Azores could have been one place. They could have been inhabiting, you know, multiple islands up and down that, you know. Absolutely. It could have been a globe-spanning civilization quite easily.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

11595.914

Um, I don't get why this is so difficult for people to why people discount this, like in the academics, historians, like, well, it comes, I think it's psychological.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

12003.311

No, no, no. I'm saying 12 or 14,000 years ago. Oh, yeah. If a six-mile-wide object hit the ice, do you think that we're not here today?

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

1201.612

It works. Yeah. Well, I mean, if that's, if that's true, if that, this is like the biggest, the biggest invention, the biggest like technological advancement in human history, probably.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

12765.98

They think it was stranded on the iceberg because there's no other way that it could have gotten there. Is that right?

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

1284.915

No, I mean, every time they get tested, the results are, are, they work like it shows that the device is working and that it's, you know, it's, yeah. So it's, it's, I, I'm just, I'm excited to see the next steps and like the next, you know, the process of the, you know, how it all plays out. It's going to be exciting.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

12888.161

That's why they pay me the big bucks here, Randall.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

12893.428

That's why they pay me the big bucks as the host. I can set up these questions for you. No problem.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

12990.038

So the water's coming from the northeast up. Yes. Straight down. Correct. To the southwest. Exactly. And it's digging those holes. As it goes over, it's eroding and everything's falling out. Yes.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

13447.594

And then just okay, so so the water would have carved out the rock. Yes, it's literally carving out rock. And so where did where did it go in this?

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

13637.561

Yeah, I mean, it's crazy to think that how recently this has occurred. All of this has occurred. It's not like we're going 66 million years ago to, you know, to some prehistoric time period. This is all, this is human. I mean, this is all very recent human history.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

13782.918

That's right. It's a ridiculous amount of water movement.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

13895.62

If there was, yeah, it's over. It's over for everybody.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

13904.943

But you got to think it's the same event, right? From North America to that.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

13918.203

Good stuff, Randall. I appreciate it, man. It's super.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

13924.825

Yeah. Well, you need to be I mean, you need to get this out there because it's I mean, it's as you go over it, it seems like the most obvious thing in the world that there's really I mean, what other explanation could there be that makes any kind of sense? It doesn't seem like there's there's. Certainly, the current accepted mainstream conventional explanation just doesn't stack up.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

1403.496

Yeah, absolutely it's moving. Yeah. Nice. I wasn't aware of that. That's fantastic.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

1412.503

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you think that this is what is being used in the UAP phenomenon that we're seeing everywhere?

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

14161.954

Thank God there's not because it would be all the time.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

14275.402

A second cliffhanger. Love it, love it, love it. Okay. Well, good. Yeah, we'll talk about all of that the next time for sure. And, you know, can't wait to have you back, of course. But really enjoyed our time together.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

14289.095

Yeah. I actually did too. Always great to chat with you. Oh, thanks. Yeah, I don't want Julie and Jesse to be mad at me for keeping you too long here, but they've got a great family, and it was great to get to meet them today.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

14326.44

Ryan's the best man. He adds humor to this podcast for sure. But good. Yeah, it was awesome, Randall. I can't thank you enough, man. Again, I always love our conversations, love our chats. I always learn so much. You're such a wealth of knowledge. Oh, thanks. And we just need to get your work.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

14407.597

I mean, it's our history. Yeah. It's like our combined human history.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

14411.1

And we're just, we don't, we don't have it right. We're just essentially ignoring like, right. huge events in human history. One of the biggest event in human history. And we just, we're not even acknowledging oblivious that it happened outside of just a small group of people, you know? So, uh, yeah, it's great what you're doing, man.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

14457.466

Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, there's a lot of mysteries out there that people are exploring in a really smart, scientific, logical, open-minded way. Open-minded way, yes. Yeah, George does a great job pulling everybody together.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

14472.566

But, yeah, I guess lastly, they're probably going to be all sold out by the time I mention this on the episode, but was also very grateful that you were willing to sign 20 cups, 20 limitless cups during lunch today. So I just want to let the audience know that Randall has signed 20 limitless cups, and they're available for purchase on the channel. So really, really cool.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

14501.727

That's a deal, right? I think it's a good deal.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

14508.293

After the series comes out. Yeah, there we go. Well, good, man. It's been a blast. Let's get you home.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

1526.838

Yeah, no, all good, all good. You're doing great, man.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

1530.602

But yeah, I mean, I guess the UAP question for me is- The UAP question, yes. Yeah, yeah. It's kind of interesting. I mean, like, is it- Do you feel like it's more government and less alien? Do you feel like it's a combination of both using the same technology?

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

1545.478

I know it's total speculation, of course, but what do you think based on your knowledge of the technology and what you know about the phenomena?

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

1676.406

Yeah, there's a lot of questions and evidence about the Denisovans or Denisovans and could they have been, you know, what did they even look like? Like how big were they? How tall were they?

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

1700.103

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's some crazy stuff. I mean, there's some crazy theories about like, could this have been a race of giants potentially because, yeah, because I mean the, the bones that they've found of the Denise events have all been very large.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

189.629

Yeah, that's cool. So, yeah, I didn't realize. I wanted to actually hear your thoughts on Malcolm and see what the latest was, if anything.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

1982.141

And I feel like people think we have so many bones and like skeletal remains of all of these different species of humans. You know, we really don't have that much.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

2031.443

um yeah and look at your glyptodont down there that was uh like a 500 pound armadillo yeah that thing was huge yeah i just saw one of those in peru actually a uh just like the skeletal remains of one of those things it was as big as a volkswagen It was like, yeah, it was massive. I think it's the same thing. It had that shell. It was like a, yeah, it was huge. The guy called it a dinosaur.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

2055.532

He thought it was a dinosaur. He didn't realize it went extinct during the younger drives. But yeah, it was... Yeah, it's crazy. It just doesn't feel like we really know for sure. And then people throw dirt on people who are open-mindedly asking questions about this stuff, like what are the possibilities? What could the history really have been like? And we really don't know. You're right.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

2720.705

Glacial river Warren. So, so the river was created from the glacier melting.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

2729.833

Okay. And so. And we see that, we see that here. We see that in other places.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

299.048

And, uh, do you know around when that happened? What year?

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

307.835

Okay. And what was he working on something?

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

3313.095

So, so the ice sheet was sitting on top of those and then the water was carving was underneath the ice sheet and was creating those shapes on the ground.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

3363.857

Just because that's the direction that the water's pouring from?

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

3401.528

Yeah. So, so the, the Carolina bays is, is something that I wanted to ask you about, and I don't know if you've done much, much studying into this, but Chris control has done a great job on, on kind of, oh yeah.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

3425.077

And I haven't come to any conclusion yet. So do you think it's the same impact then that created the bays that also kind of sparked this?

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

3578.955

And then, and kind of created the Michigan basin, right. That whole.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

3810.642

Yeah. Maybe. Let's go back to that Lake Erie chart that you had there. I think before we got off on the Carolina Bays, you were kind of going to explain a little bit more maybe about how those were formed.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

3826.333

Yeah. Because that's cool, I've never seen those before.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

4158.242

Just a comet that fragmented and broke up and hit multiple times within a span of time. Within a span of time. A short span of time. So is that, in your best theory then, is that what has caused all of these rivers in North America that are now underfit rivers? Would that have caused the, yeah, every one of them? Yeah.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

4505.856

That's crazy. So where, so just for my, just, I'm a little slow. Where has modern mainstream science, like where do they, what do they disagree with about what you're saying?

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

4526.443

I mean, how frustrating is that? Cause I mean, the evidence is all right there. Like what else do you, they're just, they just can't, they can't accept the fact that there was a cataclysm, that there was like, that there was an impact.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

4601.68

same depth same length uh oh yeah here we are grand coulee god i love this place get ryan on it with the spelling man he's been prepared for this ryan is awesome man he's the best this is this is the best i mean i appreciate that randall but the spelling comment from matt meant the most out of those two okay well all right um

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

4735.415

It would have been under 800 feet of water. And that, so that's the high water mark.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

4801.824

but with, with, with hundreds of thousands of years or millions of years of, of glacial retreating and expanding and retreating and expanding, would there have been some water? Would there have been, there would have been, yes, there would have been some water.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

4826.026

14,000, 12,000 years ago. I would say between probably 13 and 15,000 years ago is when this occurred.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

5073.195

Right, right. So all the water is forcing itself through a relatively narrow, five miles, but a relatively narrow area. And it's pushing out all the sediment, all the rocks. And so when it opens up, when it gets to the mouth and you've got less pressure, that's where it's depositing all the sediment and all the rocks. And this is an area that's thousands of square kilometers.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

525.136

And I've seen all of them. They're, they're classics by the way.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

5586.865

How do you think, like, how do we push that forward? You know, like, how do we, because it's so logical. It's so obvious. It makes so much sense when you're explaining it. And, you know, I'm with you. I agree with you. But it's like, it's, at the same time, it's frustrating that this isn't public knowledge. You know, so what, how do you?

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

5698.195

And it devastated North America in a significantly much more impactful way than it did, say, Africa.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

5867.537

Is there anybody that you think would be worthy, like worthwhile to have a conversation with? I hate to call it a debate, but a discussion where you can bring your perspective of this

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

5910.657

It could take a lot longer. These things take so much time for people to change their minds about and to impact the establishment. It's mind-boggling how long it takes sometimes.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

5923.887

The work that you're doing, you're like the biggest voice out there for discovering the truth about... You know, and I get a lot of flack that, well, okay, you're not a professional geologist.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

5962.731

Um, well, I mean, it just shows that maybe the more trained geologists are, are limiting themselves through, through beliefs that they have about our ancient past.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

6015.932

So, so how would they explain like when, when you're talking about picking up that amount of land and material and rock and bedrock and basalt and, and moving it, you know, thousands of thousands of They're moving at just such a crazy distance, and the rocks themselves weigh so much. How do they explain how that's possible without a major cataclysmic event?

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

7034.246

But the ripples are, you know, the land itself is the evidence that this happened.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

7040.592

It's the proof that it happened, really. I mean, I don't know how you get past this, you know. You can't.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

705.697

Yeah, I think I actually bought some Mazda stock right after I heard you say that. Oh, really? I actually did. I held it for like three months waiting for it to pop, and it just never did.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

7249.38

I feel like our civilization lives on as long as the power grid stays on. And you can keep the power grid on with a dramatically reduced human population, but as soon as you get something...

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

7261.936

that gets to the point where you've got two, three, four days of just an inability to use power, to operate everyday life, then there's really very little chance of getting that thing turned, getting those things turned back on and saving the civilization. If you can keep power on, you can save the civilization.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

7282.483

But even if you have some dramatically crazy change in temperature, you can lose food sources, you can still maintain your knowledge and your place as a civilization if you can keep the power on.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

7378.948

Yeah, that's extreme. Extreme temperature changes.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

7405.388

Right. Right. And that is how many years ago? What is the date on that?

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

7456.132

how steady everything has been for the last 12,000 years is like, it's incredibly mind boggling how, how just perfect the climate has been for, for humans to, to, to, to, you know, just take advantage of, of the earth. But if you go back past that, it's like, there's, there's the, the, the instability is just, it's mind boggling the change and just the, just the peaceful kind of,

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

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Not in a little while. But is this the kind of chart that you would expect to see for all past or, you know, interglacial periods? Would you expect to see all interglacial periods be this calm if there wasn't some catastrophe that had happened?

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

7590.587

Yeah. Yeah, it's over. We're back to little villages.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

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But, yeah, so then – Why do you think it hasn't been, like, recognized as – or adopted yet or recognized as, like, more mainstream, more outside of, you know, the Malcolms of the world and a couple other people that, you know – Well, I think it, you know, it kind of steps on maybe some corporate toes.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

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Where's the Sphinx get pushed back to, do you think?

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

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Do you think that that impact would have then happened right around that 15 then? The first impact where it went from cold to warm, that would have been? Yeah. Yeah, I think that's right.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

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would we even have come out of the depths of the ice age? If it wasn't for this event, we'd probably still be in it.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

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Just real quick, where does the Sphinx get pushed back to, do you think?

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

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But so why like, so Rogan actually made a comment, um, a couple of, I want to say it was like four months ago or something. Now is well beyond when you guys recorded the episode with, with Malcolm. Um, and he essentially said something to the effect of this guy was, was like a fraud or, you know, out of his mind or.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

8883.799

I was going to ask you about it actually. Yeah. I've seen a little bit about it.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

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But that was the one that most people point to and say he was talking about Malcolm on that.

Matt Beall Limitless

Ancient Cataclysms, Thunderstorm Tech & Lost Civilizations | #48 Randall Carlson

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So that would have been the high water mark from the water that was resting in there?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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They are.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

SCAMMER STEALS $4M NYC HOME (The Real Story)

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Yes.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

SCAMMER STEALS $4M NYC HOME (The Real Story)

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That's irrelevant.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

SCAMMER STEALS $4M NYC HOME (The Real Story)

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Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

SCAMMER STEALS $4M NYC HOME (The Real Story)

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So that's why I said... Basically useless?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

SCAMMER STEALS $4M NYC HOME (The Real Story)

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Lawyers can't go.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

SCAMMER STEALS $4M NYC HOME (The Real Story)

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Okay. These are two federal jurisdictions. Right. So they're still federal.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

SCAMMER STEALS $4M NYC HOME (The Real Story)

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Right, right, right, right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

SCAMMER STEALS $4M NYC HOME (The Real Story)

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Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Money like that.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Okay.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Credit Card Scammer Makes Millions Living a Double Life

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Okay.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Credit Card Scammer Makes Millions Living a Double Life

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Okay.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Okay.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Credit Card Scammer Makes Millions Living a Double Life

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Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Credit Card Scammer Makes Millions Living a Double Life

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Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Right. Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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So wait, so how much is it you have to have in the bank?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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And you came in, you could stay there and I could buy a condo for 100 grand and stay indefinitely. I got to get rid of Colby because it's going to be all StreamYard. I don't need Colby anymore. So boy, boy, the YouTube would take a hit, wouldn't it? The channel would, if I did all StreamYard, that'd be over. Yeah, I can't.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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So what is it there if you want to go out and go to a Thai restaurant? Not even fast food, just go to a Thai restaurant.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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What do you mean? If you're a U.S. They're going to look at you and know. Look at you. You're a round guy.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Paleface?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Um, or is that a compliment?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Well, what people don't realize in the United States, what people don't realize is that most countries are... You go to that country and live there, and right away you'd be like...

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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So you're going to go and probably initially, what, do the 60 to 90-day route, right? You're going to stay for 60, maybe go 90, pay a little bit, go 90, and then do the loop? Correct.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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I think that what I think is funny is that he immediately things have already changed or starting people are implementing changes automatically. But in the end, I think the economy is what it is. and it's in real trouble, and he's better for the economy, but it's going over... You know what I'm saying? It's like a building that's coming down.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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What you're saying, between Bangkok and Pattaya?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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You were looking at Pattaya.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Sure, there are spots you can stand in Tampa and see nothing but big buildings, but if you walk two blocks – You're out of that. There's only, there's a very, it's nothing like going to Manhattan or Chicago or, you know, you go there and you're like, this is insanity.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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So when you were looking into all this, you were concerned about, you were like, I don't even know if I can get a passport because you were a felon. First you were a felon, you thought that was a concern, but you were able to get it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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All right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Like I've heard people say like, well, I'm a felon. I can't get a passport. It's like, that's not the BS.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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And I've also heard people say that you can't get a passport if you owe back taxes to the federal government. And that's true. That is true. And child support. Child support, back taxes, and I have a federal judgment against me. But if you're paying your judgment or you're paying, like you can be in arrears in taxes. You can be in arrears.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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You can do a controlled demolition, or you can let it topple over and do more damage, but it's coming down no matter what. So I think he's the better choice for bringing the building down.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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But if you're on a payment plan, they'll give you the passport and let you go. It's when you owe $5 million or whatever. Let's say you owe $50,000 and you haven't paid in five years. And you're not like, fuck you, I'm not paying. Then they go, oh, no, no, no, no. Well, then you can't get a passport.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Right, but you got a passport because you were sweating. You were like, I don't know.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Yeah, because they tell you three months. Don't they tell you like 90 days or something like that?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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How much was the ticket?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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And that was eight months ago, right?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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But I'm fully prepared. Well, you have your neck pillow.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Let me think. Here's the thing, like you're saying this is permanent and the game plan is to get there and start making videos.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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But it's coming down. That's what I've been saying. And I think I even told you this. I was like, to be honest... For the Republicans, it might have even been better if he didn't win because it guaranteed a win in four years. If he didn't win because the economy, whoever is in there has to face the fact that we're slipping into a recession. It doesn't matter who's in there.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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It's not going to get down to Bangkok prices.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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So... I keep waiting for Colby to chime in. So you're thinking go there. You're thinking start a YouTube channel because right now there's a bunch of YouTube channels that do this thing.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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But you don't have anything on Bangkok. Like you're revamping.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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So what is the demographic? What is what is what are those YouTube videos going to be?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Is that what the videos, the guys say?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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So there's nothing you can do. You can offset it a little bit, but it's it's a problem.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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And there's nothing they can do because – There's nothing you can do? Because I know we were watching a video where the guy was like – he thinks the girl is 100% in love with him. And he buys a business for – he can't own the business. So he gets – so he puts it in her name. But it's okay. They're in love. And then brings her family in to help work the business.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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And then the business starts doing well. He builds a house for her and him. And then one day she starts kind of picking fights.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Yeah. Well, I was going to say slowly in the US. But yeah, that's how I think it should be in the US. But yeah, in the UK, they've lost. It's over. They're done. That whole country is gone.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Allow them to vote. Allow them to be prime minister.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Let's see. Well, I mean, it's bullshit for a full-time job, but there are some people that will fit like two hours in here.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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I've seen that. I made $62 off TikTok, or I made $110 on Instagram. He adds it all up.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Well, I know when you were when you were you were working like. 60, 70 hours a week at the tattoo place. Like you said, but I'm not really doing it. I'm really just there waiting for people to come in.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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How did you come to the decision that you don't want to be in the U.S. anymore?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Is there a max amount you can bring?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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What about cell service? Yeah, like for your cell phone, does your phone number switch over?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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What about, uh, what about the other YouTubers, the ones we always watch?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Yeah. He doesn't give a shit. Is this the one that was chased by the kids? No, no, no.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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He made this video. He made the mistake of giving these little kids some money. And boy, let me tell you, next thing you know, there's 20 of them just stalking him. Just chasing him. Chasing him through the streets. He's running.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Yeah, it was...

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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It wasn't like a block either, bro. He went like a long, he went like a mile or so.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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And they were still there.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Right. The guy you were just... Mashtag.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Is he the guy?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Says ridiculous, hilarious shit.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Okay.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Plus electric, plus water, plus cable, plus food.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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And then you got a bunch of people from India working for you.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Yeah, all the guys I know that are making big money on editing are outsourcing it to somewhere else. They're managing it here, so it looks like you're the one doing everything, but you're really just managing a bunch of guys that are in another country.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Well, I was going to say, and at the rate things are going up, that may never be possible. Exactly. I mean, unless the economy crashes and everything takes a nosedive, and then how do you make a living here?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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You know, because I never leave the house.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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That's a one-time crime. You get to do that once.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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I don't really worry about that, but I hear you.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

3230.678

Right. Statistically, there's less of a probability of it happening.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

3245.165

So what do you think about just, like, right now, what you think you're going to be able to live for a month? I know you've done the math.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

3278.577

Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Kind of like restaurants.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

3335.864

Or if she goes grocery shopping.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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If you put out 40 introductions or text, whatever they call it, you might get one or two.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Yeah, I was going to say, you'd still – actually, that is – it doesn't matter if you go over there. That is what would happen. You get a lot of tail just because you're an American or because they know your potential to make money vastly outranks that. the males in that country.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

351.713

Well, what I'm wondering is how did you get there? You don't just roll over one day and say... Here's where I'm going. I mean, what did you see? A TikTok? And then it sent you down a rabbit hole?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Oh, I'm sure it helps.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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The problem is these guys get these chicks, they convince them. Like, you're a 5'8", 60 pounds overweight, bald. You got a gut. You got, yeah. Bad teeth. Bad teeth.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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You're all fucked up and you're dating a chick and this chick who's, you know, a 10 and you're dating her and within a week she's convinced you she is head over heels in love with you and you fall in love with her.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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You might figure it out.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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You send $300 back to them every month. That's 10,000 baht. Yeah, to them, that's a ton of money. That's a ton of money. For you, it's 300 baht.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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If she's got three or four of you. If she's got four of you. Oh, pfft.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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And they've got whatever guy is currently there they're working on. He's spending $500, $600, maybe $1,000 a month while he's there for that month.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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What was the guy's channel that reads the letters?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Thai Talk.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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What's the one guy?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Yeah, you can work here. You can get a job as a bartender or as a waitress. You might have to have a roommate or two, but you can live. You can still get a cheap car, cheap insurance, or take the bus. And you can still pay. You're not going to live great, but the bottom of the barrel here is still way better than the bottom of the barrel over there.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Oh, yeah, we saw the slums.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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So it was immediately Thailand? Yeah. Because every time I've mentioned on this, every time I mentioned during an interview, like, oh, yeah, Boziak's going to Thailand, somebody in the comments will be like, oh, he ought to go, too. And they always have alternatives.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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No.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Anyway, so...

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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But listen, he'll walk around with her on speakerphone talking to her. And he goes into the kitchen the other day, and he's getting some ice to get some water. He puts the thing in, and you hear the ice dropping. And she goes, what's that? What's that? And he goes, getting ice. She's like, what? And he goes, I'm getting ice. And he shows her. He's like, I'm getting ice out of the refrigerator.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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She said the refrigerator makes ice? Makes ice.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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What is the, well, you can use a translator, right?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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But it's not like you can go to, like you're walking through France and you turn around and like, you know, 30, 40% of the population speaks English. It's not like you can sit there and go, hey, does anybody speak English? And somebody's going to stop and go, yeah, I speak English.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Well, you renamed it. It was Boziak.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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You know?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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I mean, there's no, we looked up, there's almost no Bosiacs out there.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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I would try and hook up with some of the other guys that have. You know what I'm saying? At least meet them so you can build at least a group.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Yeah, the other YouTubers. Because they have the lay of the land.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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And then you can have a little community of kind of like... you know, Julian, Danny, Wade, you know what I'm saying? Like there's a group of little YouTubers, even though we're not even the same place.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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They're just not interested.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Because I think this is what – Because you can help conscript their subscribers and your easy content and their easy content.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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No, there's those people that think if you're getting a piece of pie, you're taking it from my potential pie. But the truth is, there's tons of pie. There's just too many people on YouTube.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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How many videos you plan on putting out a week? You're just going to wing it?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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What about Patreon?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Yeah, if you could get a couple of bar girls that speak good English to do, they could probably tell you some insane stories. So it'd almost be different than Dan. Dan? Ty Talk with Dan? Dan. It'd be different than...

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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dan it'd be different than than his channel because he's well he's just reading stories of right yeah you're getting it straight from the horse's mouth this is what the chick is saying that you know they're gonna twist apparently a lot of them don't like going on camera that's why i want to have exclusively for patreon Oh, yeah, because then it's not going to catch up.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Right. What's that?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

4482.425

Yeah, yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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And he says he has a problem. Like, he knows he's got a problem.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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what about uh i was gonna say and you know on patreon you can you can say whatever you want there's you can have nudity i can have them chicks in there topless interviewing them if i want you know what i mean what's good i was gonna say is like literally if it's 10 bucks and you get you know you get 50 guys for 10 bucks that's 500 bucks bro that's your rent you see what i'm saying i'm saying if you build it up and you get you know people paying 10 dollars

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Yeah, I wonder how long it would take to get that many Patreons.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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But that way they kind of know what they got.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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yeah a decent little studio just somewhere to set up a couple of cameras and some mics and shit yeah 150 bucks a month maybe 200 a month us over there so especially yeah you can get a place with no windows it'd be a plus get a room with no windows yeah just in like an office building somewhere even if it was it's almost like the soft white underbelly even if you could hear people outside yelling or sirens or what does it matter i'm in bangkok what do you expect i'm in bangkok there's there's sirens there's

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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You know what we ought to do? You want to look at one of those videos where the guy is showing like one of the condos?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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You can hear prostitutes outside. You can hear prostitutes outside. The soft white underbelly thing, when you're on Skid Row, you were there. People are driving by. People are yelling. They're fighting. There's sirens. You hear everything. Before I went on soft white underbelly, I thought that was like a soundtrack.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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12 feet away, you know, whatever, I'm 10 feet away from the door, a foot outside of there, there's crackheads screaming and hollering, getting in his screen, and you can hear sirens. And I remember when I was doing it, he was like, okay, he's like, wait, wait, wait, because we heard a siren. I was like... I was like, oh, I thought you wanted that in the background.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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I thought that's why you were down here. He's like, yeah, usually, but not in this case. It's not for you. And we waited for this thing to go by, or this ambulance or something. And he was like, okay, go ahead. And I even told him on the thing, I said, you know, when I watched the first couple of these things, I thought... You actually, that was like sound effects.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Can you, you want to find one like a short one where he's just takes the guy up and he goes, actually, I mean like he'll go off to like the 20th floor of a brand new building and it's like $480 to live in a one bedroom, one bath.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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No, he picked me up because he said Uber. He said a lot of Uber drivers don't want to aren't going to want to drop you off. Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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That's how crazy it is. Mark is was he six to six three. He's tall. He's tall, lanky. He was driving a BMW. You know, the little compact BMW two door. That's what he was driving. Yeah. It looks like a like a clown mobile. He's like, you know, hey, Matt, come on in. I was like, This car is too small for me.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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He looks every once in a while. He's laying back.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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That's what I'm saying. You could rent a place in a shithole area for next to nothing.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Do you know how good the Wi-Fi is? Like if you could do live?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Apparently, they have some of the fastest internet speeds on Earth. Well, I'm sure if you're downtown, where you want to go.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Yeah. That would be like, um, Probably a little bit better that way, right? Aaron Smith-Levy, he does this stuff on Scientology. He started his YouTube off by doing – he said he made it a goal like I am doing one live a week. Well, YouTube really pushes the lives. Right. He said – I think maybe he said I'm going to do two lives a week. And he said I started.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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He said I'm going to make – no matter what, even if I just get on there, he said he was like – There's nobody there. Nobody there and I just read a book for an hour. That's what I'm going to do. Like I made that as my goal just to talk. about Scientology. That was it. And he said, so he started that. And he's like, you know, it got more, you know, first one was 30 people or 20 people, whatever.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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And, you know, it kept doing and doing. He said, after a month, I thought, this isn't that hard. And people are paying attention. He goes, you know what I'm going to start doing? I'm going to see if I can do. Five a week, one a day, every week. And so he went from like two to like four, then from four to I'm going to do one every day. And now he does like three a day.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Right. He'll do a live. And if you have 13,000 subs and you do a live, it's going to at least present it to half those subs. Like, hey, this guy you're subscribed to is doing a live. Yeah. So that might be something you could think about. Anyway.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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And with the lives, people can donate.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Kind of like Patreon, right? Our fear with that is... What if something happens?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Like living in a place down, like a one-bedroom downtown Tampa.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Even if they say it's gone up.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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I was going to say, you'll be doing... I speak the language impeccably. You'll be... You'll be... Oh God. You'll be tattooing a little, uh, Bangkok, 2000 and 25 tattoos and all these little, he would come back from, from tattooing and be like, I'd be like, Oh, well you've tattooed today. And he'd be like, I did too. Yeah. I did two butterflies.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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He's like that infinity.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Everybody's on scooters.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Yeah, they don't really pay attention to the lanes. They don't really pay attention to the stop signs. Dude, navigating a kind of. They're doing this like constantly weaving in and out from each other.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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You just take the go. It goes everywhere.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Kennedy's going to take care of it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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I do have a question. I heard he's going to take care of it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Why does he want to take fluoride out of all the water? What's the problem with fluoride?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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So like we, we, I was gonna say, we looked at some of these places that were like one bedroom, one bath, and they were in maybe a building that was two stories high, maybe three stories high. And there may be four or five blocks away from the, from the, um, you know, from like the, like the beaches, uh, downtown, but yeah, they're only two or three story highs and maybe they're built in, uh,

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Why are they saying that they put fluoride in our... Like, what's the... Why put it at all? What is the benefit of putting fluoride in the water?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Is it for our teeth?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Americans have pretty good teeth. Probably. I was going to say, is it like... I never dove down this rabbit hole.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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We need to check. I don't think so. That's another thing.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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I'm going to look into it now.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Oh, God.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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What is it in Idiocracy? Brando? What was it? Brando. Brando. It's got electrolytes. It's got electrolytes. That's kind of how I feel about fluoride. Like, is that like fluoride? Like, we don't even know why it's in the fucking water.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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You're naturally going to live.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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You know what's so funny? I have so many people that have come here and met Boziak and will say stuff. They'll ask about him. How's he doing?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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And then Tyler, he said, when the hurricane came through, Tyler texted me. He came through. He's like, is everything okay? And I said, yeah, everything's fine. He said, is Boziak safe? He goes, make sure to take care of Boziak. He goes, at all costs. And he's done this multiple times just out of the blue. He's like, is Boziak okay? I'm like, yeah. Oh, man.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Yeah, Jess has already said. She's like, I'm kind of going to miss him.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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I am.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Yeah, there's never any dirty dishes. There's never any. He's got his cupboard. He's got his place in the pantry. He's got his cupboard. He takes everything out. He makes everything. He puts it aside. He'll eat, and then he washes every single thing and puts everything back up. He can have a whole meal. You come downstairs, and you only know that he had a meal because you can smell.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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in the 90s or 20 years ago um and they look like a regular kind of apartment right but those you can get for like 400 bucks a month but you're right but it's the older buildings yeah and the single they're about two or three stories right you can get those for 250 300 a month but if you want to be in a on a 30th floor if you want a high-rise luxury condo you're gonna have to spend between 600 and 800 us every month which

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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You're like, oh, he must have made something.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Dude, I don't like that. So I don't do it. We'll hear, we'll, we'll be down here and hear him laughing, but he's just, he's like, he'll be watching like cat videos or something on TikTok and he'll be like.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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We'll be watching TV, and we'll both look at each other and look up and just start laughing sometimes.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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In institutions, like, you get used to taking everything out, doing everything you're doing, putting it all back. If you leave something on your locker, it could get stolen. Not that it would, because sometimes they'll really beat the piss out of somebody in prison if they catch them stealing. But people do. But the guards will take it. Or your bunkie will be like, what are you doing, bro?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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You can't leave this shit out. You're going to get us shook down. So you also get used to that.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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I so I probably when I was incarcerated was probably washing my hands 40, 50 times a day. And I was about to say, you don't really do that anymore. And then I just thought about it. And I thought, bro, you wash your hands. I was at my hand washer. I was at my, my sister's last night. We were there for two hours. I washed my hand four times just because I picked something up.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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I cut up something, I put it down and I thought I should wash my, like, I immediately felt like I should walk there. It's silverware. It's fine. But there's a bunch of people cutting stuff up and I immediately walked in, washed my hands real quick. I don't even think that there's anything on the spoon or whatever. But mentally, I thought to myself... There's so many people here.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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I should wash my hands. I don't think anybody has anything, but you just, you get that point. And I was just, cause I was just about to say, yeah, I don't do that anymore. I thought, what the fuck are you talking about, bro? Last night you, you washed your hand at least four or five times when you were at your sister's.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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I probably washed my hands at least four or five times this morning alone.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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I don't think you notice. It's subconscious.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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But if you hung out with me long enough, you'd probably start realizing, bro, you've washed your hands three times in the last hour and a half.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Yeah, it's weird. Grab the door handle. I don't feel like anything's wrong with me, but it's probably not normal behavior. It's probably good behavior, really.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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But how many people have come here and said, wow, your place is so well-ordered, so clean? I'm thinking to myself –

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Yeah. Granted, we don't have anything really out.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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There's no real clutter. The only clutter is directly related to the equipment. And it's a lot of wires, but there's not wires that aren't plugged into something. It all has its place.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Yeah. Yeah, they're a problem. I guess my nephew's daughter was there last night at Thanksgiving dinner. And I mean, listen, it was like...

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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there's like four or five all just at least three or four adults just trying to kind of wrangle her you know i'm saying she's picking up everything and doing drawing stuff like they must be getting five pins out of her hand just seeing crabs when she knows exactly when does it start drawing like my god that's a full-time job bro yeah it's fun um so yeah no i think that's i think that's it man you know i'm just uh

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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What do we say? We'll see how this plays out in time. Watching this in six months going, I really seem confident in you. I'm answering collect calls from a Thai jail.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Remember the one bedroom I used to live in? Yes. Okay. So that one bedroom, a buddy of mine came over named Troy had come there to buy a painting from me. And he looked at my – he went in the building. He was like, this apartment is exactly the same size as mine. And I was paying $1,400 a month, $1,400, $1,500 a month. Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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And so we want everybody to do what?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Because think about it, by the time people watch this, They can go in the description box, hit the link, boom, go over there. You might have eight or nine videos already.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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You become one of those irritating people that take a photograph of their food every time. But that would be cool. You just pull out your phone and just do a little video of the food. Like, bro, this is what I got. I got a thing of rice. I got this. I got chicken.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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And then if you go back and do a video... then you can show like, hey, this is what I got. This is how much it was.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Hey, you guys, I appreciate you watching. If you liked the video, do me a favor, hit the subscribe button, hit the bell so you get notified of videos just like this. Also, leave me a comment and share the video. Also, if you go in the description box, we're going to have all the videos that we talked about from, what were some of the guys' names?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Mash Tag Brady. Mash Tag Brady. Keys One. Keys One. We'll put some of their links to some of their, I guess, to their channel or their videos, whatever.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Yeah, we'll put some of the links there, too, so you can check those out. We're also, the first link that you're going to come to is going to be John Boziak's channel for YouTube, and we'll do his other social media. So click on those. Please go subscribe. He might have a Patreon set up, so we may have that in there.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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So by all means, please check out all that content and subscribe to his social media and YouTube. Once again, thank you very much. I appreciate it. See ya.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Um, and it was exact same layout as his, but he was in downtown Tampa on like the 15th or 20th floor of one of those places on channel side. And I think he was paying 3,500, 3,700. He goes, I'm telling you, he goes, he goes, I got the same flooring. Those are the same. He was like, this is my, my layout exactly. But he was on like the, whatever, 15th, 20th floor, something like that.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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And it was, it was, it was like, oh my God, was it an extra, like, 2000 and change to live there so i know for a one bedroom one bath a brand new nice one bedroom one bath downtown tampa three years ago about three years ago it was a little it was like yeah 3200 double that now yeah it's because things have gone astronomically let's say 4 000 so you're looking at 4 000 compared to 800

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Do this come furnished?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Yeah, I don't know how much higher you can get than this, unless you just get more square footage.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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But you know, how much square footage do you need?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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But if you're using the amenities, if they have an office, they have offices.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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So how do you... One, well, I guess the first question is how do you figure out how to go there? Because I'm assuming you just can't. If you're living in... the UK, you can't say, ah, you know what, I'm going to go live in America. That's not that easy.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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So the plan is you come in for 60, but you stay, you, you pay a little bit, you stay till 90, you leave for a day, you fly back in.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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And now you're back there for 60 to 90 days.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Oh, okay.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak

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Can you bring your wife if she's younger than 50? Yes, definitely.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

FLORIDA MAN ROBS 27 STORES IN 6 MONTHS | Salt & Pepper Bandits

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I have a question real quick. So after you've done four, five, six, how many ever long, like, are you kind of perfecting your craft with the beverage castles? Like, what are you looking for specifically? Is there like a store that makes it a target? Like what, how has it evolved over the first few? Like what are some of the lessons that you've learned? Like, what are you looking for?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

FLORIDA MAN ROBS 27 STORES IN 6 MONTHS | Salt & Pepper Bandits

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How do you stake it out?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

FLORIDA MAN ROBS 27 STORES IN 6 MONTHS | Salt & Pepper Bandits

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How often? Is it every weekend? Every night?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

FLORIDA MAN ROBS 27 STORES IN 6 MONTHS | Salt & Pepper Bandits

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And are you burning?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

FLORIDA MAN ROBS 27 STORES IN 6 MONTHS | Salt & Pepper Bandits

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I was going to say, are you burning? Are you stacking up money, or are you just burning?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

FLORIDA MAN ROBS 27 STORES IN 6 MONTHS | Salt & Pepper Bandits

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Which one?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

FLORIDA MAN ROBS 27 STORES IN 6 MONTHS | Salt & Pepper Bandits

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Billy Ferry, is that the name?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

FLORIDA MAN ROBS 27 STORES IN 6 MONTHS | Salt & Pepper Bandits

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Yeah, let's see. Billy Ferry was convicted July 2, 1983, for a fire at Winn-Dixie that killed five people.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

FLORIDA MAN ROBS 27 STORES IN 6 MONTHS | Salt & Pepper Bandits

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Bruce Kimball.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

FLORIDA MAN ROBS 27 STORES IN 6 MONTHS | Salt & Pepper Bandits

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When he do that right there, I say, you want to see the crack of my ass too, officer? The weed already is.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

FLORIDA MAN ROBS 27 STORES IN 6 MONTHS | Salt & Pepper Bandits

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Never got caught doing that? Never got caught?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

FLORIDA MAN ROBS 27 STORES IN 6 MONTHS | Salt & Pepper Bandits

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So the 26, you know, all the robberies, how long was that? Was that a six-month time span?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

FLORIDA MAN ROBS 27 STORES IN 6 MONTHS | Salt & Pepper Bandits

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He done jumped three or four states, man. He only showed half his face.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

FLORIDA MAN ROBS 27 STORES IN 6 MONTHS | Salt & Pepper Bandits

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When you're looking at these convenience stores, whether it's back in the day or even today, what makes a store vulnerable and what makes them secure?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

FLORIDA MAN ROBS 27 STORES IN 6 MONTHS | Salt & Pepper Bandits

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If they just look soft or like they would just.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

FLORIDA MAN ROBS 27 STORES IN 6 MONTHS | Salt & Pepper Bandits

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Billy would have grabbed her ass and look at her. Hey, you going to give it to him, I'm going to take it at you once.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

FLORIDA MAN ROBS 27 STORES IN 6 MONTHS | Salt & Pepper Bandits

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You think you'd hit all the highlights?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

FLORIDA MAN ROBS 27 STORES IN 6 MONTHS | Salt & Pepper Bandits

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So he said, if you want to know about that, then. But I'll give you that story later on. Let me see if I go to jail first. Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

FLORIDA MAN ROBS 27 STORES IN 6 MONTHS | Salt & Pepper Bandits

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I have a question real quick. How old are you? You're still like 18 to 20 years old?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

FLORIDA MAN ROBS 27 STORES IN 6 MONTHS | Salt & Pepper Bandits

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Yeah, right after high school.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

FLORIDA MAN ROBS 27 STORES IN 6 MONTHS | Salt & Pepper Bandits

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Oh. If that's what you want to call it, bro. That's not what you're thinking.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

COP SCAMMED FOR $400,000 (How They Did It)

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Wait, $300,000.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

COP SCAMMED FOR $400,000 (How They Did It)

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Hey, I got that. Let me pay for the meal. Hey, let me take you to do. Hey, we shall go here. Hey, let's go do this. Let's go. What? Hey, I got a buddy. Oh, what's happening, man? I got a buddy. I can call him right now. I can.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

COP SCAMMED FOR $400,000 (How They Did It)

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He was a huge attorney, right?

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He stayed in the same place for 18 months. Like why wouldn't you go in, get a chunk of money, take off?

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They don't even know it.

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Guys are like, yeah, bro, this is Jim, bro. He got these two guys off on murder. You're like, oh my God. I convinced him to do my, he's going to do my case. Wow, bro. Nice, nice. Yeah. I just hope he can get it done before he leaves.

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And he would.

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Me and my mom escaped on a boat when I was six months old. And I was in a refugee camp in Thailand until I was probably about one and a half years old before I finally made it to America. Now, my whole thing is I got to do it. It's like this. Don't think. If you think, you're going to talk yourself out of it. Right. I don't think. I just react. So I punch him right in the face.

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I mean, even the Vietnam war, I believe was all based off of heroin. I mean, a lot of people have all these political views about it, but if you talk to the people in Vietnam, You know, they talk about the golden triangle. Yeah. The golden triangle basically. Defund the war somehow. Right. Well, the golden triangle basically was the area that was fertile for opium. Right.

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You know, and and the Chinese wanted South Vietnam's land, you know, and because and that, you know, export, you know, or export import, you know, they wanted that product. And because South Vietnam was a French province.

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you know our french um territory i guess so they backed up the north to take over you know and then america steps in to back up the french you know and then all hell breaks loose and you know and you know they and and you know politically they say this and this and that but technically i mean

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never going to stop well the problem with it is I always said that like you know Genghis Khan Hitler Napoleon all these guys Alexander the Great had they were able to take over the entire world and really just conquer the world We would all be under one government. We wouldn't have missiles to point at anybody because we would all be one.

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The failure in humanity is that we developed the technology to destroy ourselves before we were able to band as a species.

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i think that's that's my thing you know because had we had let's say hitler won even though that sounds atrocious you know i mean like god of course i wouldn't want that but let's say hitler won then the entire globe would just be germany yeah and there yeah the government would suck but it would be one government we wouldn't be sitting there fighting against each other because they would we would just be against each other you know what i mean it would probably be some civil things but it's still all in one government you know uh

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And that's the problem now is you're dealing with all these feelings and, you know, helping this person out and helping this country. And it's just too many countries getting in other people's business is what it is. A lot of times it's like, why is America even there? You know what I mean? Why was America even in Vietnam?

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You know, like one of the statistics for the Vietnamese War, there's more American soldiers lost in the Vietnam War than World War I, World War II, and the Korean War combined. You know, for what? For this little strip of land that you have like no care about?

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Thank you, Tyler, for the soda.

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you know what i mean like why were you even there you know um but you know a lot of things about that even like opens my mind because i'm from south vietnam so i'm considering like you know i've always kind of held like some kind of resentment to the north you always felt like they took over but in the history books over there ho chi minh which was the leader of the north you know he's he's in their history books like he's like a hero yeah you know what i mean victor's right yeah the history that's what i'm saying it's it's all about perspective right and

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And wouldn't I be, as a Vietnamese person, shouldn't I be like, hey, you know what? I should be proud that I come from a lineage of warriors that took down America. Like who else did? Look at all the resources of, you know, Russia and China and Japan. They could take down America. But yet this itty bitty little bitty country took them down. Because why? Because they didn't believe in rules.

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I mean, they did like fucked up shit. Don't get me wrong. He's tying sticks of dynamite to an eight year old kid. That's some fucked up shit. You know what I mean? But that's where the term guerrilla warfare came from.

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So- Because you have to fight fire with fire.

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That's the problem is that Americans were stuck with rules of engagement. Right. Right. And okay. For example, like the Ho Chi Minh Trail. Right. Everybody's heard of the Ho Chi Minh Trail. The Ho Chi Minh Trail was how the North got their supplies into the South. Right. And the U.S. with new, I mean, with like napalm. And I mean, it was all things about this Ho Chi Minh Trail.

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But if you look at the Ho Chi Minh Trail, the Ho Chi Minh Trail actually goes into Cambodia. goes into Laos because North Vietnam didn't give a fuck about these invisible lines that like, you know, and if you actually looked at the supplies, they're literally in plain sight.

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but it's in cambodia so the u.s can't go in there and blow up that supply depot you're fighting with rule you're fighting you're constraining yourself with rules and the other party doesn't have any doesn't have you're not gonna lose well i mean and and it's always been known that ho chi minh was a big fan of like uh the art the art of war you know he was a real big studier of the art war and he understood his enemy i mean even do you know what the art of war is

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Like you've heard divide and conquer. Divide and conquer is...

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Just my parents story alone. I think it's very interesting of like how they came. I was kind of like a Montague Capulet, uh, you know, uh, families that didn't really see eye to eye with each other. My father was from a wealthy family. My, my mother, uh, was from a loving family, you know, and they were actually not, weren't allowed to see each other.

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And he actually looks at it like a chess set, like a chess board, right? I mean, you do have sacrificial pawns. That kid holding that eight stick of dynamite is a sacrificial pawn to him. You know what I mean? It's just a weapon to use to destroy this tank, right? Now, and they understood propaganda.

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Like, you know, during Vietnam, they would broadcast, the North would broadcast on a radio for black soldiers saying, this is not your war. We're not here to fight you. Look at the people. They're putting you guys on the front lines. They don't care about your life.

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Divide and conquer. Divide and conquer, right? And it's, I mean, even it goes down to the very last day, which is the

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the Tet Offensive everybody yeah the Tet Offensive now Thot is how you pronounce it Thot means New Year's right so the whole thing about the Tet Offensive was the US wanted to have a ceasefire with the North so they were going to have like this hey we're going to have this big because it's a very big thing Thot in Vietnam was a very big thing right And they totally didn't see it coming.

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They were like, hey, we're going to shake hands, sign this document that we're going to have this ceasefire that this day we're going to celebrate and everybody's going to be good. So guess what? The American soldiers went out there and got drunk and hammered and thinking it's a free day. The North comes rolling in and tanks right on, right on that.

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And that's the day that the U.S. had to pull out. And it's just like, why would you even, like... honor a document from a guy that signs it. That literally was top dynamites and eight year old kid, you know, like what, what would make you believe that what anything that this guy says, he he's not, he's using anything.

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He understands that he's going up against, it's, it's like Mike Tyson's punch out, you know, your, your little Mac up there trying to fight Mike Tyson. You know what I mean? He is going to use any and every opportunity that he can to get one leg up.

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I mean, it's just like this. Like, why would you ever honor any handshake or any deal with your enemy?

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They kind of like, this was like a secret, you know, rendezvous, secret love, love affair. And, uh, and it came along, but then it ended up not working out anyway. But, uh, yeah. So, uh,

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Because I could fight every day by myself and I'll get that little bit of respect. But if you don't ever get some wins in there, you know what I mean?

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You're still going to be looked at as a victim, right? So, I mean, yeah, I mean, they came over and they took over. So, like, my parents had to deal with the aftermath of that, you know, like literally tanks coming in and this is no longer your home, you know, like you're out on the street. And so there was a lot of people who escaped and they were political refugees.

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And a lot of countries, the Vietnamese people are actually dispersed very globally all over the world. I think France took in a whole... There are a lot of Vietnamese people in France because France felt like it was, you know... It was their former colony, right? Yeah, it was their former colony, right?

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And that's how there's a lot of Catholicism in Vietnamese culture because the French brought in Catholicism to South Vietnam. And also a lot of French culture with the iced coffee and things like that. The beignets and... You have to watch Apocalypse Now.

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I know the movie. I definitely will.

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I never knew that it was about the Vietnam War, though. I just knew that Ron Brando was in it. I'm almost positive it's about the Vietnam War. I hope it's not about the Korean War. No, I feel like it's about the Vietnam War. It has to be, because Vietnam War is when you're talking about the atrocities.

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you know what i mean like talking about crazy they're talking about cambodia in it and they it's it's it's got to be because cambodia was run by the camaroos too by the time like they were definitely it's definitely it's definitely vietnam is it vietnam okay it's vietnam i knew it okay got me second guessing myself and then also like you gotta look at like the soldiers like how do you how can you pick out your enemy

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and your ally when they both look exactly the same you can't like you know what i mean like so a kid comes running towards your tank is that an innocent kid or is that kid strapped with dynamite now you have to make that decision right now you're forever gonna have to live with blowing up a little eight-year-old kid's head off. You're gonna have to live with that. You know what I mean?

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And that's why these Vietnamese veterans that are back, they're so screwed up. When we won World War II, it was such this huge celebration. I always think of that portrait I always think of that portrait that they have of that sailor kissing that nurse in the middle of New York City, right? It was a celebration when that war ended.

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was born in 1979 so uh it was like it's fairly soon after the vietnam vietnamese war the vietnam war ended in 1975. uh my dad was a part of the military over there and like uh my mom was forbidden to even see him but he would like sneak away and they would have their their little run of you and then i happened when when you say the okay so the

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But when Vietnam War, we had so much political unrest here with the rallies. A lot of people were feeling like they were sending sons over there that weren't coming back.

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where we're located yeah you know i mean you're literally separated by the atlantic and the pacific it's not that easy to kind of reach out and touch us yeah yeah you know what i mean when when japan did pearl harbor that was kind of really the first time somebody ever reached out and look how how how we responded to that you know what i mean like honestly if they would have just knew north vietnam the very first time they would probably end it just that quickly too you know um but uh

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yeah like that's why everybody feels so some type of way about 9-11 because that's somebody reaching out and touching us on our ground like and you know i was i was actually in prison when the news of 9-11 broke out i remember that i was in my little computer class you know uh because internet wasn't really even out like that back then um

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But I was saying and first saw the first plane hit and we thought it was I thought it was an accident. You know what I mean? And then it was going out and I could remember even as prisoners how angry we were. You know, like people were like, dude, like, screw this. You know, I'll put it put a gun, man. Let's go. I will go to war right now. You put me on the front lines. You know what I mean?

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Like, you know. A lot of people hate Americans, but I always say you hate us because you ain't us. And I've gotten a lot of perspective over the years. Don't get me wrong. I love and I'm an American. I represent America. I'm a citizen. I represent this country. But yeah, so I was very angry about that when that went down.

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It did. It caught up to me, like I said, the day after I turned 17. And in Georgia, the –

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17 years old you're considered as an adult okay so technically i couldn't even buy cigarettes yet but i could be tried as an adult right so but they kind of gave me a slap on the rib they they kind of combined it at all and gave me this the 90-day boot camp thing which i went to west georgia boot camp which is like a prison boot camp you're not like an actual like military but it's run in a very military style right you know we've exercised and marched and and all that stuff so

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I did, I did that. I got out 90 days. Right. But then I went right back into doing exactly what I was doing before, you know, uh, I was gang member still, and now I'm a little bit older, you know? Uh, so I just got right back into that again and, you know, living the life of, you know, hustling, you know, um, selling drugs, um, Little small money here and there.

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There's nothing like big and organized. But the funny thing you had mentioned about those cars, one of my members actually went out and visited a friend in New Jersey. And he came back with the Masterkey to... They were... Camrys, Toyota Camrys, back in my day, and you could stick this key into the Camry and it would unlock any Camry and it would work in the ignition.

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So we just made copies of those keys. So literally, whenever we needed a ride to go somewhere, we would go walk through a parking lot, look for a Camry, and we would be gone. And we were bad about it. We were literally playing bumper cars with these things. We didn't care about these cars. But I remember that one of my buddies ended up getting incarcerated with one Right.

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And in there, there was he came across like some kind of like they took him down to like the I guess what they say they take you to the precinct or whatever for questioning. And he came across a paper that they said that the number two car that's most stolen in Georgia.

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like hot wire you know you see the hot wire in your cars and all that well basically what you do is you you know what a dent puller is it is it's what the device that you twist and you can yet yank out the dents in the car right and like it would it would have like a little nail right you could screw into it and then you pop that dent out right well you would screw in that nail right into the ignition switch and you basically just pop the whole entire ignition out and from there you could work your magic to start a car

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Well, at the time they were still like dealing with the aftermath of it. Okay. Right. Like my dad's family was from a very wealthy family and they, they basically just took everything.

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what was the guy what is it you remember the guy we interviewed that he he was doing they were doing it in new york and he had a name for that the the ignition whatever snap it right out and that well we it was the dent puller brush is what it was we called it exactly what it was you know the the thing that believe it or not the thing that would deviate us the most was the club you remember the stupid club that we're staying real club if a car had a steering wheel club on it you were safe

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And, you know, believe it or not, on a side note of that, it's just, even if we didn't take the cars, You know how many firearms and things like that that we got from glove compartments, stereo equipment. These are ways that we were making money as young little kids. You know what I mean? And like I said, we robbed people. You know what I mean?

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You just went down to zero. Um, so they were just trying to figure out a way to survive. Cause I mean, they were going in there just basically murking everybody. I mean, you know, You're the losing side. It's kind of like that's how war is. You know, the winning side takes the spoils. So my dad escaped first to America when I was conceived. Right.

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People that we knew that dealt with cash businesses or dope boys. You know what I mean? And for you to do that, you know that

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Still out there doing all that stuff. And then what happened, which leads into my second time I get incarcerated. So... my gang or my crew where they were going down to Florida for the weekend to party or whatever. And three of us couldn't go. And one reason I couldn't go is because I was still under probation off the other stuff.

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So like, I think four of us stayed behind and they told us like, look, hey, don't go to the clubs. Don't go out. You guys are only a few of you guys here. You know what I mean? But Back then, I felt like I was invisible. And if you're telling me not to go somewhere, it means I'm scared and I'm not gonna be scared to go out. You know what I mean?

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And back then in Atlanta, the Asian culture wasn't like as fused as it is now. Like now when we go to the clubs, there's a mix of all kinds of races in the area. White people, black people, Asian people, everything. But back then they used to have what were called Asian parties. So people would rent out a venue and throw a party just for Asian people.

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So but this is where the gangs would converge. right so then i remember we went to club soul was down in midtown atlanta and it was just four of us you know and we went in and there was an altercation within within the club right and you know we threw down in the club uh got out and got went to the car and as we were driving away who's the altercation with

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Well, with one of us is all of us.

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Right. So one of us got into a fight in there. So we all, we got into a fight within the club. Right. And then after that, you know, got kicked out. So we got to the car and as we were leaving, there were like four of them on the side of the sidewalk, I guess, going to their cars. You know, and at that point I stuck my nine millimeter out the window and I let go the entire mag. Right.

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Unfortunately for me, there was a police in the vicinity. So there was a police on the scene within three minutes of that because he heard the gunshots. Right. You know, so it was a police on scene within three minutes. So there was an APP out for a red Honda Civic within like five minutes. We made it maybe four blocks away. You know what I mean?

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And come to find out that they were like stopping any red car. I mean, there were other people that got guns drawn on them that had nothing to do with anything. But anyway, like we got pulled over and literally surrounded by like probably like 15 cop cars.

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No, we absolutely did get rid of it. Oh, yeah. We did get rid of it. Um, but like I said, it's completely surrounded. I mean, guns drawn and like, um, you know, hands up and getting down and, and all that jazz. And, um, So then they put us in the car and then they took me right back to the scene of the crime because there were still some people there.

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At the time, I didn't know if I had hit anybody yet. Right, I was wondering. But I did. But there were other ones that didn't, that were still there. Did you hit one person? I hit one person three times. Oh, okay. So he was already sent to the hospital. But the remaining people there were like, yes, they ID me.

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And so then after I was born, he had already made it to America and then he sponsored us. So then me and my mom escaped on a boat when I was six months old. I picked up by a Chinese fishing boat and I was in a refugee camp in Thailand. So I was probably about one and a half years old before I finally made it to America. So we were in a refugee camp for a year. Um, Then we made it to America.

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So immediately I go to Atlanta City Jail, you know, me and everybody that was in the car with me, you know. So then from there, that was the stint of my second. Now, Atlanta City Jail is a completely different ballgame because now you're talking. This is the inner city of Atlanta. This is like ACDC.

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And eventually it caught up to you. It did. And as we were leaving, there were like four of them. on the side of the sidewalk, I guess going to their cars, you know? And at that point I stuck my nine millimeter out the window and I let go the entire mag.

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acdc atlanta city detention center i guess yeah i remember looking out my window and i could see magic city which is one of these it's like a tall tall building tall tall building yeah i was there obviously yeah you're familiar right well i was in the the marshall's holdover area so it's just for the feds so okay well no i went into you know they obviously no bond on that charge uh so they they take me into atlanta city jail but then

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They ended up having to bound my case over to Superior Court because they couldn't handle it in the city because it was such a bigger... It's a more serious crime, yeah. So this is when I go to Fulton County Jail, right? Now, Fulton County Jail, everybody knows it as Rice Street, right? Now, Rice Street, it was probably the toughest time I had to spend because Rice Street had...

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seven floors have you heard of spry street before yeah i have been in acdc like these are rough places right because you're doing you're dealing with these are like the ghettos like in atlanta you're talking everybody in there is always it's not even about what gang you're from it's like where you're from i'm from fourth ward boulevard mechanicsville uh perry home carver homes these are all projects you know mechanicsville is where ti came from

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So in there, they were repping where their neighborhood was. But either way, all those neighborhoods didn't have Asian people in it. You know what I mean? And plus, I'm kind of outside because my hood is more College Park. So I'm in Clayton County is where my hood is. So I'm not even in my neighborhood. my stomping ground, I guess you would say.

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So Rice Street at that time, I think they've changed it now, but back then Rice Street had seven floors. So the top floor was like the hole, right? The sixth floor was where your PC or like, I guess at the time, transgender people, stuff that people needed protection would go to. And then the fifth floor was like the Thunderdome. The fifth floor was the violent crime floor.

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And then it worked its way on down, you know? And you're there for attempted murder. I'm there for attempted murder. So I am on the fifth floor and I'm in, I'm telling you, I'm crazy as shit. Like I'm literally sitting here watching the news and on the news, it was, I remember it was the DD.

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And there was this couple, this guy and a girl who like killed some girl, some lady and chopped off her head and they found the body. Could never find the head. Right. And I'm watching this on the news. The door pops open and fucking Didi walks in. You know what I mean? Like, I'm just like, wow.

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Now, the thing is, you know, like I said, Asians were looked at as by black people as victims, you know. So I probably got into more altercations in the time that I spent on that fifth floor of Rice Street. Then I have my entire life as a gangbanger in the years I spent in prison afterwards. You know what I mean? Like that kind of is really where I learned how to fight.

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Cause I was constantly having to prove myself. I could remember like the first week in there, I went to a store call, right? So the officers at the door of handing out store, I make a $50 store call. I'm walking back to my room with my, my bag. And, uh, his name was Jones, big tall guy, came up to me and was like, hey, let me get that. And I was like, oh, you're hungry? You want a honey bun?

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I'm still a little green around the ears, you know? I put my bag down and he's like, no, I want that whole thing. Now, my whole thing is I got to do it. It's like this. Don't think if you think you're going to talk yourself out of it. Right. I don't think I just react. So I punch him right in the face. You know what I mean? His buddy kicks me in the back. I go into the fetal position.

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Soon after that, my sister was born. So I have a younger sister, two years younger than me. But then about when my sister turned one, my parents split.

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They're stomping me out. Officers at the door still passing house door call. Right. Yeah. I mean, it's called we call the Goldfish Bowl. They had like a little tower up top. They said that they could look down. It was like six different units that they could look down on, you know, and like it was like, well, nobody does that by up the place and bets.

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You know, but yeah, that was like my first understanding of like, you know, hey, this is going to have to be a regular thing because because being that fact that it was a county jail, I mean, it was like a revolving door, you know, like people were getting sentenced and moving out. So new people were coming in. So new people come in, immediately see. You know what I mean?

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So, I mean, I'm constantly proving myself. I mean, I at least got into one or two fights a week. Now, I can remember one guy that definitely took me under his wing. His name, he was a Mexican dude. Name was Montana. All right? And he was a Golden Glove boxer. And he came up to me and was like, hey, man, you know, you... you want to like work out, can try to teach you some things like that.

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You know what I mean? I guess he kind of felt bad. Maybe I was just getting my ass kicked a little too much. Cause back then as a gamer, you thought you really knew how to fight, but you're just really not, you're just really trying to throw punches with no kind of really technique to it. Right. You know what I mean? But like I said, if you're willing to fight, The one, right?

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Because at least you're not scared. But then he started showing me boxing moves. You know, like we would take the matches, roll it up, put in the pillowcase and hold it and start showing me how to stand. And, you know, I'm doing it just as an exercise thing. But then as I'm fighting, I noticed that, like, it just started to come naturally with it. And I'm starting to get better, you know?

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So I really, really learned how to fight then. Because I will tell you, growing up as a gangbanger, I'm fighting other boys. Right. It's a completely different game when you're fighting a grown-ass man as a young boy yourself. You know what I'm saying? It's a completely different ballgame. You know what I mean? And every one you have to take seriously.

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And then even after the fight, you're still living with this guy. You still got to kind of keep your eye. It's the worst. It's the worst thing. So you got to kind of learn how to somewhat coexist. You earn that respect, and then you got to somehow...

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squash it out at some point yeah you know what i mean like like even that guy jones we ended up being really cool like weeks later after you know his shiner went away you know what i mean but he never stole my soul girl from me again right you know what i mean but he probably spreads the word like listen that dude will fucking swing i mean it wasn't even a spread of word it was literally like in the day room i mean i didn't even make it back to my room i was probably about 15 feet away from the from the door from the store call

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you know uh but you know it wasn't it wasn't the it wasn't the last time that my stuff got stolen right you know what i mean but once again you got to go out and it could be over the most like simplest thing i was i was telling you earlier like you know out here we have what is like a man code right that we got to live by you're gonna have to you know you can treat me with a certain amount of respect as a man right but in there you have the convict code

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you know, which is like, you know, stitches get stitches and all that stuff. But it was more like all you had was your respect. So the littlest thing would force you to have to go into an immediate confrontation.

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Well, you've been in prison.

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Because now it looks like anybody's going to do it, right? You can't do that. I don't know about you, but one of the biggest things is you can't reach over my food.

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Well, I think, yeah, because I think my dad was sponsored through a church. Okay. So, he got here, and I guess it was based here in Atlanta. Okay. So, he was over here working in a, you know, Chinese restaurant as a dishwasher, you know. And when we got here, you know, we were living very poor, you know, Section 8, you know. you know, and very low income.

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Right. I'll give you an example. One of the things I got in a fight with over a lot was somebody calling me an amigo. Hey, amigo. First of all. I'm not Mexican. Right. You know what I mean? And it's like, no, no, no, man. It means friend. Second of all, I'm not your friend, you know? And then now at that point, I've kind of laid it out on him.

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Either he's going to back down and look like, you know. Like you put him in his place. Or he has to step up to the bat. And if he doesn't, hey, I have to step up to the bat too, right? And that's the most trivialist thing to get up.

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That, if you call my mom, what do you do? Right. That was, that was immediate green light. Stupid. The stupidest thing.

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And when they put their boots on, what do they call it? They call it strap up. Right. Hey, it's time to strap up. You know, over the most trivialist thing. But it's because you only have that little bit of shred of respect that you have to like maintain.

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you know and I'm not going to even lie like being an Asian in prison you don't think how many people kind of came at me with that fuck game you know what I'm saying like who wouldn't want to have them a nice little China doll you know what I'm saying especially when I'm the only only Asian in the entire camp and it's funny because when I went to that camp they do their count system by black or white

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So even if you're Mexican, your kids are black or white. They have on the board how many black inmates they have, how many white inmates they have, right? I refused to be labeled. And they kept, I mean, they were on me, on me, on me. I was like, fuck you. I'm not picking. If you pick, you pick. But you're asking me to pick? Fuck you. I'm not picking.

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And it's funny because the day that I got released, I went through the outtake and I went past the office and they had like the chalkboard where the whiteboard where they had their count. They had black. Why? And they had a fucking 3M sticky note. Other. Other. One. You can finally take that fucking sticky note down, motherfucker.

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No, I hit him in the leg three times. Okay. So we kind of jumped around a little bit. Okay, so... You can still die by being shot in the leg, by the way.

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And then, you know, I'm really kind of, you know, my mom and my dad, the family's always had beef, you know? So there were a lot of members of my dad's family that were already over here that already didn't like my mom. So my mom was already like, you know what, screw this. And she walked out on him with $500 in her pocket and me in one arm.

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He showed up. He showed up to court in a wheelchair. And that's how they passed on and indicted me to move me forward. But I ended up spending like three years in county waiting to go to trial. What are they offering you? Are they giving you an offer? Well, I finally got an offer of a 10 to 5 time served right after. So I didn't even end up going to prison over that charge.

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what do you mean 10 to i don't understand you so it was a 10 to 5 basically it's a 10-year sentence you just serve five of it but you'd already served three basically yeah they let me out straight from county but they paroled me out straight from county basically um so then that happens right so i'm out on the street now after this aggravated assault attempted murder right uh

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Back into the same thing, you know, back meeting with my boys and everything. And then this can't get right. I just couldn't get took. It took a while.

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what it taught me was it taught me how to be a better criminal yeah oh yeah right because you're in there with the best of course right and it also taught me that i'm not scared of this like i can survive in here like that that that was the worst for me that's the problem because you know you're not scared of it once you it the unknown was what was scared once you went through it you're like

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Right.

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I, you know, been there, done that. You know, now when I go to, if I have one, I'd rather much rather do prison time than county time.

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No, because, you know, you're watching these movies. And, you know, of course, I myself, not to say that I wasn't, like, nervous about going to prison. You know what I mean? Obviously, I was. You know what I mean? But once you've been down there and you understand and, like,

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i was a rowdy kid i was never scared to throw down so like once you know that like you can earn that respect yeah the freedom's down in prison so much more like you literally get out in the morning you're out all day watching tv gambling you don't have to play basketball very little interaction with the police yeah very little interaction with anything so it's kind of like you're you're you're kind of left on your own to kind of do do do your time

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Not in a country she didn't know without knowing the language. But my father actually raises my sister. So I have a sister, but we literally were raised completely separate. So my childhood was basically poor. My mom worked two jobs during the day, sold purses at night, you know? So I'm on the street. Like I remember coming home from school, kindergarten by myself, like, you know, first grade.

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you know whereas in county they're so like strict and it's all about control and you know literally in gwinnett county like you literally only got four hours outside of your room a day so it's 20 hour lockdown you know what i mean like fuck that shit i much rather go out here like send me to gen pop you know what i mean because i much rather have the freedom and not And so what?

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A fight's a fight. What the fuck is that?

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And you served time in Florida.

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It does.

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Yeah, it's a game, but it's a game and yet not a game because they do test to see who's weak.

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Yeah, you got to be cool with yourself.

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Yeah, you have to have your, I mean, even regardless of the gang or whatever affiliation in prison, you got to have, like I said, those guys that had your back that can look behind you You know, where you can't see, you know, you have to have that close knit of friends.

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Yeah. You know, I, I just basically learn how to take care of myself, you know? And, um, It wasn't like my father wasn't around. Like, you know, I was still seeing my news, my father, but it was on like a visitation over. I would see him once a month for a weekend or my sister would come down once a month for a weekend or something like that.

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oh okay it comes across because now they just grew one more member of their numbers yeah right now that guy owes expected that guy owes them right so if now somebody if they were to reach out and ask him a favor he would now feel obligated right to do what he's got to do yeah right so i mean everything comes at a cost you know um you know the the one of the big jokes is the

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And this never happened to me, but I've heard stories about you going to prison and then there's like a bunch of cake, the cakes and stuff like that on your bed. The Snickers bar. Yeah, the Snickers bars and stuff like that on your bed. You better not eat that Snickers bar. You know what I mean? Like, you think that's a gift?

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That's because you're willing to like, you know, he might try.

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you cashed in that wolf ticket right you but the first two times like it was questionable is he fucking with me because he's trying you up he's testing you right it's all about testing right and seeing where somebody's heart's at and that's and that's all it is like even like me like i said as long as you're willing like there's so much easier to go to the next guy who's not gonna be willing to buy right then then to even deal with it you know what i mean so like once you once you get known to just like hey this guy's just not gonna

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It's just not going to come easy. Then they're going to leave you alone. And in prison, it was a lot easier than that because the revolving door wasn't as, you know, my rep, it was, it was big. The reputation would, would be known more. It was just, it just altercations happened because they just happened to happen. Not because.

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But he wasn't really there as a father figure, you know? So, I mean, where did I, where was I out? I was in the streets, you know, and being in the streets and then, you know, all black impoverished neighborhood, you know, we were looked at as food. you know, picked on or beaten up.

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somebody was intentionally trying to go after me or something like that you know what i mean but like and right street like i said that was like a revolving door i was like constantly like learning i mean i don't think i ever not had a bruise on me at some point my body at all times you know um But yeah, like even then, even in prison, it's like a code. Like, hey, let's take it to the room.

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There's no need for the police to know about this.

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In county, which was the hardest time, believe it or not. Yeah.

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Absolutely. Because like I said, that... And it was weird because like I was in Rice Street for a year. Right. And then they finally came up with a bond for me for that for that charge. So I was thinking, oh, I'm going to postpone and get out. Well, Gwinnett County still had a hold on me from those burglary charges. Right. So.

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i didn't i posted bond and just went straight to another account and i'm like well at least at gwinnett county i didn't have to fight right you know what i mean but i i ended up sitting in there for two years till i finally i went out to trial and like well i didn't go out trouble we pleaded out and you know i got out yeah that was i was saying i'm sure you've heard this before that was a that was my my buddy zach that was his thing was like he actually had new charges

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your bonds 10 grand for a grand you can get out no like if you haven't been through the system you don't know how it works well i we we bought it out because they my family called up to the general say hey does he have any kind of hold on him right they said no right so you did they they posted the bond

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But then I never made it out because then the whole, oh, I thought you knew and you want, you wanted to be moved. No. Oh, okay. I mean, I'm well, you're in, you're in, I'm going to fuck what county, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, it sucks that it was rice, you know, but still you said the other one was better. It wasn't necessarily, no, not necessarily better.

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Cause rice street actually, yeah, I, I got in a lot of fights, but you got free time. You opened the doors open in the morning. You're out all day. You do what the fuck you want. You know what I mean? Whereas when I counted your lockdown 20 hours a day in your room,

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So, you know, me and my buddies that I made that were also Asian, you know, just decided that we're just not going to be prey, you know? So we banded together and, you know, and that's, those were my, those became my brothers. Those became my, my father figures. And we had each other's back. I would, I would kind of compare it to like, you know, like a Navy SEAL unit.

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federal time is actually easier time it's just it's just in state but they don't have the parole is the suck part of it well in the time they give out they want the time yeah they don't want the time and you're they can send you so far away right which with me they said i i okay well i get out on the uh the aggravated attempted murder charge and uh get back into the same thing again so you know and uh

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we had recently just robbed some dope boys so i had over a given a thousand ecstasy pills you know and so i got set up by an undercover right right away you remember the restaurant bennegan's yeah yeah so this is probably still benningens no but no but back in 2000 there was oh there was everything there It's like Sizzler.

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Binigans, yeah. So I remember that I, and the reason was weird because it was, I got set up by a girl that I bought coke from. You know, and I'm like, she couldn't be. I mean, she literally sells shit to me herself. You know what I mean? But so like I said, I was undercover and I was unloading like a whole bunch of these ecstasy pills. And back then they were just ecstasy pills.

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I mean, like a van like literally blocks the back of the car and swats like jumping out and literally a helicopter is flying above the Bennegan's, you know, and it's like full on like on me. You know what I mean? I woke up on the ground conscious on the floor broken. Right. I look up. I can see it was like around eight or nine o'clock in the evening. I see a street lamp, you know, and like.

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It was not all this MDMA and all this. This happened back in 2000 or so. Um, I ended up and it was like, we went into the Bennigan's and he was like, you know, met him up, met him up. He was like, all right, let's go out to the car and make the deal, you know? And so we'll get in the car and like, he's counting out the money. And the next thing you know, I mean, like a.

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a van like literally blocks the back of the car and swats like jumping out and literally a helicopter is flying above the benigans you know and it's like full on like on me you know what i mean and um that's the third time i'm i incarcerated for uh distribution right uh and so so then this is when i go back in to count this federal no this is still a state

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So then that's when I was served my third term and my final term. But in between that time was when the incident happened at the TGI Fridays. So in between that time, me and three other of my gang members, two of them happened to be brothers, with our girlfriends, happened to be eating at TGI Fridays. And the guy that I had shot

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Happened to be eating at the same restaurant and he saw us, you know, but we never saw him. I never had an idea that we were just eating. And he called up and like literally about 45 minutes into our meal, we look outside and like there are like there's a mob out there, like 20, 20 guys, five, six cars out there.

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you know and my guys they tell me like look you're already on parole for the you know the attempted murder like you and your girl need to just get in your car and leave we got this you know what I mean and that's what I'm saying band of brothers man like really you know what I mean so we get out and like I'm parked like over here and here's the restaurant.

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And they're parked like right up against the wall on the side of the restaurant. Like my other voice, right? So like I'm getting in my car and I'm looking over there and I can already see them like having, exchanging words with the other side. And these guys, they got like bats and shit too, you know? They outnumber us, you know, four or five to one, you know? So I see one of them like,

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You know, you got to trust that this guy behind you, is going to be looking back there so that you can't, cause you can't look back there. Right. You know? So these guys became my brothers, you know, and we took care of each other.

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I guess get close. And then my buddy's older brother swings first. He hits that guy first. I mean, he's a college kid. He's got absolutely no gang affiliation at all. He was just out having dinner with his brothers and a couple of his brother's friends. But in the same breath, these are my little brothers.

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And you're not going to sit here and just, I'm not going to just stand by and let you guys just, you know, Beat them up or whatever it is. So when I saw that happen, I said, screw that shit. I hop out and I'm over there. I'm next to, you know, I'm fighting for guys, you know, and I at the time have a gun on me. But I'm not the type to be like, shoot first. You know what I mean?

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Like, I'm okay with like, hey, we could throw hands and I'm okay with that. You know what I mean? But as I'm fighting these four guys, I hear gunshots break out, you know, and I don't really know if it's coming from my side, their side. You know, I start unloading my own shots.

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you know after the aftermath of that because after the gun starts going out it's basically everybody clears and they're hopping in their cars and you know everything's going on that I see my my friend's older brother on the ground you know and at the time he was still alive you know and even at the time they told me

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get the fuck out of here when the police arrive you don't need to fucking be here right you know like that's that that that love that you know so i left i left and i actually went straight to the hospital and um because you knew they were going to be i knew he was going that way right because yeah so i was there And I was also informing families, stuff like that, because they're all on the scene.

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I'm letting people know that, hey, this has happened. He's probably going to be going to Gwinnett Medical. And at the time, he was still talking and coherent. He had been shot in the stomach. Turns out he had been shot like four or five times. On the transport to the hospital,

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is when he he he passed right you know and the brothers were riding with him in in in the ambulance so when the brothers come out of the i guess mercy or whatever like we could all know that like he was gone you could see it in that face and it just it it crushed me like their mom was there father was like i mean i just It destroyed me. It destroyed me.

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Because, you know, if it happened to one of us, I mean, we're a casualty of war. Like, we're a part of the game. Like, this is the risk that you take. You know what I mean? But he just, he was just a good college kid, man. Like, he had no affiliation, nothing like that. But, you know, all he did was love and protect his brothers. You know what I mean? And, like, yeah, it destroyed me.

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So then, you know, that happens. And then like they arrest like 20 of those guys, right? Because they start telling on each other and all this. So they all get incarcerated into Gwinnett County Jail, right? But then they start telling each other. So they eventually... a whole bunch of them get out and they're left with four guys, right?

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We were bloods. Okay. And we were bloods at a time that, Bloods wasn't, Lil Wayne wasn't a blood yet. So in Georgia, most of the African-Americans were black gangster disciples. And so we chose to rival that. And plus we're not black. So we chose to rival that. So a lot of the confrontations we got into were with a lot of black people. Until we earned our own respect.

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One guy was the guy that hit him with a bat, knocked him down. One guy was the one who actually shot him. One guy fired rounds, but didn't hit him. And then I think one guy, He was the brother of the other guy. I don't remember exactly, but they ended up saying, okay, well, y'all four are gonna be the ones that we're gonna charge with first degree murder.

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And it was premeditated because I mean, literally y'all sat in a parking lot for like 45 minutes waiting for us to come out. With guns and bats and then all this stuff.

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and all that but then um so those guys are those guys are locked up and like six months later is when i go down with the the drug charge right so i'm in county jail in the same kind of jail with them but they knew to keep us separated right so like i always had to bounce around because if that would move one around they ended up having to move me around so i never ever got a chance to see any of them the time i was in county

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And on this trip, it didn't take long. You know, I was in county for like maybe six, six months. Boom. Trial. I mean, I took a plea. I got sent down to prison. You know what I mean? So I was. How many times yet? I had a 15 to 10. Okay. Right. So I went, I went down to prison, but it was a drug charge though. So at least this one was like a nonviolent. So parole came up pretty quick, you know?

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But anyway, I was, I was down in prison. I was all the way down in Wheeler, kind of, which is like, Three, four, five hours outside of Atlanta. You know, and like a year later, the D.A. comes down to my prison to talk to me. The D.A. that was doing the murder case. Right. On my friends. Right.

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And he was like, you know, we want to bring you back up to county in case we need to call you out as a witness on this murder case. You know, and I was like, you know, that's fine. You can bring back up there. But, you know, if I see any one of these guys, I'm going to try to kill him. You know, he's like, no, we're going to protect you. Don't worry about it. blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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I'm like, okay, fine. So like a couple weeks later, I hop on the blue bird going all the way back to County. So I get back to County, go back in the County cell and everything. And then two days later, uh, we're going out to court. So the way they do is they call out the pause. They go stand in line. There's a North hall and there's a South hall. Right. Right. So we're in line at South hall.

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They call us out of court. And I look up and like, 20 guys in front of me it's one of the four guys you know and I'm like at this time I don't want to bum rush and tackle them because literally there are like five officers on this hallway pushing us down it's like it's not going to really get I'm not going to even get to them

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So then we go down to the crossway and then they line up the South Hall, just kind of goes first. And then I'm seeing the other three in front, right? So we're on this one big line going towards the holding cell to go to court, right? So I'm thinking, okay, any second now they're about to pull me out of this line and separate me. So they're going into the cell, going into the cell.

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So, you know, I'm in the cell with them.

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I don't know how they messed this up, but I'm glad that they did. So when the door slammed shut... I stand up and I'm like, OK, what's up now, motherfuckers? You ain't got your guns. We can either go four on one or I can go down the line and kick your ass one on one at a time. What do you want to fucking do? You know, and like one of the guys from my cell is like, yo, man, calm down, calm down.

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I was like, oh, man, because I, you know, these I consider my brothers was like, hey, he killed my cousin. Like this, you know, he's like, oh, I do what you got to do, bro. You know, and the guy that I shot. was one of the guys, you know, and now he, he can walk now. It wasn't like, it was like a paralyzing injury or anything. And this is like years later.

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He was, I remember him sitting on the bench and the other guys were sitting, there was like, well, bench here, bench here, bench here, you know, and three of them were sitting here. He was sitting here and I'm in the middle, just monologuing. And basically, and then I remember he says, it's not that we're scared of you, motherfucker. We don't want to send you to the hospital. You know?

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And I was like, what? And I started walking to him. He stood up.

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deck them and i'm just wailing on this guy so what do you think the other three guys do they go banging on the fucking door calling for the police right help help for debbie debbie debbie debbie you know so they get in there and they yank me off this guy whatever you know and then like um one of the officers looks on his clipboard and he's like he sees that i was supposed to be separated he just slams the fucking flipboard i was like fuck god damn no

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So whatever, they separate us, transfer us to the courthouse. And then at the courthouse, I could see the DA come out. I was like, I will have y'all's fucking job if you cost me this trial. It was going off on him. I mean, the guy's going to court. He's got a fresh shiner on. You know what I mean? But they ended up not ever using me. in the trial at all.

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You know, that they, and respect comes very easy. I even tell my kids, I was like, you know, once you are in the fight, you won because it doesn't matter what the outcome of that fight is. The fact that you're willing to be in it automatically means you won because you just earned that respect that they know that he's going to go. It's just not going to come easy.

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Yeah. You're not coming to maim. You know what I mean? You're coming with bats.

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Yeah, right. You know, and like, so like, and I, I mean, it's bittersweet, but at least I got at least to put my hands on them. You know what I mean? So what happened? What did they? They all end up getting life sentences. Are you serious? They all get life sentences. They all got life sentences. And you know, hearing through the grapevine, I told you Asian motherfuckers down in prison are food.

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I definitely know two of them are sucking dick. You know, the funny thing is, you know the term fuckboy. Out here, you hear the term fuckboy. I don't know about you. The term fuckboy is a prison term.

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Totally fucking different in prison. Like, somebody call me a fuckboy out here, I feel some type of way about it. You know what I mean? Because a fuckboy is a man. You're not gay.

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but you're sucking dick right and you're doing what you gotta do because you don't want to get beat up or what the fuck ever that is a fuck boy you know what i mean so like it's weird that you know out here they call like these guys that are like you know womanizers fuck boys you know but in prison that's what i was saying it's like calling somebody a bitch out here is vastly different than being in prison oh yeah it's extremely extremely different i mean something like small like you're sitting on my pillow

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Because that's the only little piece of property that they have. You have to respect it. Because if not, then nobody else... The mentality is always like, hey... that if you do it, everybody else thinks that they're gonna be able to do it.

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And then now it's like, who's going to back down? Right. Right. And so like with me, it's never back down.

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It's just, you know, it's not going to happen like that, you know? So that's what we, that's what I had to do day in, day out, but my whole life is like you know, have always been like earning respect, you know?

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I got you. He get two soups. He washed my underwear. I have a guy that rolled my cigarettes. I wasn't very good. In Georgia at the time, you could still smoke in prison. You can't no more now. But I obviously couldn't afford, they call them Cadillacs if you're out there smoking Newports. You know what I mean? So we had rolled cigarettes.

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So he would, I think a box of Kite or Tops would come with like 30 rolling papers or something like that. So he would roll me 30 cigarettes and then whatever tobacco was left was what he was allowed to keep for himself. And he'd have to go get papers on his own. You know what I mean?

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Some of these guys are super, you know, I'm very I was very fortunate that my mother was was there for me. I had a consistent $60 a month that I put on my books. I could depend on it. And $60 may not sound like much, but man, in prison, I stretched that out. I didn't have to hustle for my cigarettes. I didn't have to hustle for things. I hustled just because I wanted to hustle.

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They come fingers of coffee because they would take a glove and they would put coffee into a finger of a glove and tie a glove off. That would be one. That would be like one pack.

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And I think you're a lot like me in the sense that like, I was just a cool guy.

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Like we said, like our superpower is kind of get people to like you. Right.

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So like they called me China, man. Like I was the only China. That was my name. Nobody knew. Nobody knew my government name. You know what I mean? Like China, man. That's what I was. My nickname in the China, man. You know what I'm saying? And so like I was just that cool guy. And like I could facilitate certain needs kind of like read from Shawshank Redemption.

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Like if you need some way, I might be able to.

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know somebody that knows somebody and i and i pretty much try to stay out of the politics you know what i mean like that's when you're getting into to shit and luckily for me i didn't have to because i had my i had that 60 a month that i could always depend on you know i mean but i mean even i ran tattoos in there i had a little tattoo gun you know made out of a cassette tape motor and all that you know because back then they were still cassette tapes we didn't have

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the triads are very very small population chinatown here the chinatown in atlanta is very very small okay so uh the there were the asian gangs they usually receive would be like either the third world countries there'll be the vietnamese the cambodians the laos the laos gangs right and and we networked with each other as well you know because sometimes we needed a band together as well um but uh yeah we didn't really run into a lot of the triads like that um

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I remember the time that I was serving like cell phones weren't even out yet. Like Internet was brand new. You know,

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I mean, I can show you like some of my prison tasks. It's crap.

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Because what it is, is they'll take like a spring off of a, like a ball, a pen. And they will light that spring up and stretch it all the way back straight again. Right? And then they will take one edge of that spring and use the concrete to sharpen it up to a point.

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If you could get that in.

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The guitar string is the best. Because you're only using a certain amount of pieces of it. So you actually get a whole bunch out. But yeah. But the spring or the guitar spring. And they would hook it to that motor. And they'd run it to the top. But the neat thing is, how did they come up with the ink, right? The ink was smut.

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yeah you know they took like basically baby oil lit it on fire and like encased it with like paper and that ash that came up on that paper they would scrape off and mix it with like um toothpaste or something like that and that was how they made their i mean it's ingenious like some of these prison guys they make wine and

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Bombays. Like hunch punch. They would make in there. They would take leftover peelings from apples and things like that from the kitchen. Or rice.

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alcohol starts dripping out of the fucking ceiling or wherever you gotta hit it I'm assuming that's where he had the Bombay and it takes time but man it's ingenious how smart these guys would do things like I could like light a cigarette by popping an electrical socket You know, like a light switch socket. I'd stick my key behind it and I'd stick some foil in where the switch is.

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And I'd run a pencil across that foil, which would spark. And I'd have a little piece of toilet paper with shredded on the end and catch that spark. And that's where I would have my light and I'd light my cigarette up.

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sling it and it hit the wall shoot over hit another wall and shoot over and go right in the doorway that's a hundred feet away to another in the hole you have nothing else to do right so like they want to get a message to that guy over there so what they do is they take the string like a thread and they tie it to like a pin cap

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right like uh just a cap that you put on a pin and their kite or their note would be within that pin cap right and so then they tie that pin cap and literally they are shooting that cap out and if they don't hit their target they're using the string to pull it back to them to take another shot sometimes they turn like a domino or something right yeah just anything with some weight yeah they just do this and you're i would watch my my celly do it

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And you do it enough times, you get really good at it.

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It would take maybe five hours to get that note over there. You ain't got shit else to fucking do. Yeah, shit else to do.

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They knew not to look at the note. You shoot it to another. Sometimes you shoot it. It would literally go like this down. You shoot it into that guy's

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I mean, the difference with the triads, too, is the triads basically kind of, like, just went over their own people. Like, you know, like these tongs, they would, like, basically...

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What's happening? And there you have no, you have no, you have nothing but time. Nothing else to do to entertain yourself. If nothing else, just getting that note down there entertained you for five hours.

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There were things that we used to do, you know what we would do? We would pump toilets, right? Pump the toilet and then I could talk to my next door neighbor through the pipeline, the toilet.

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How horrible. And all of that, too. But the toilet also is a vacuum. So, like, if you were to be smoking. Yeah, they would flush it. You could just blow it down to that toilet and it would suck the smoke right down in there. I mean, it's ingenious. Some of these guys in there really are. If they would, including myself, if they actually took their, you know, their smarts and everything and just...

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push it in the right direction, they would be successful people out here. You know what I mean? They have all the skills to be successful, but they're just using it in the wrong avenues. Like I said, including myself.

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feed off of their own people you know they would extort from chinatown you know they're not going out there and store doing extortion on walmart you know what i mean no so like but with us we didn't have that so literally we had to kind of carve out our own niche you know what was that uh well we we also had like uh we did some extortion too as well

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But it was like, you know, burglaries, robberies, stealing cars. And this is how old are you? I was like 14, 13 years old. I mean, I probably was familiar with a gun in my hand by the age of 12. You know, like I said, like my juvenile record was probably like

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That's how you know who's really been there. Somebody was not going to waste it. Wait, they're going to go take a shit. They're going to go take a shit. And he's looking around like, there's all these people in here.

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No. Yeah. I mean, I remember my first time sitting in the hotel and then I remember every, every time after that, you know what I mean? It's definitely, it's definitely different once you've been down there before, but yeah, like he, yeah. And it's funny because of the same thing you said, like there are people that I knew in prison, right?

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That when I got out, the internet had now AOL, this is when you still have dial up and everything like that. And I could go on and search the Georgia Department of Corrections on some of these people. And I'm like, dude, you are fucking bad about it. I had no idea. You told me some story that you beat some kid out of school with a baseball bat. You know what I mean?

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And it was so intricate story that he told me. I'm thinking you're in there for some kind of aggravated assault. And it turns out you're out there molesting little kids.

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Here's what he's saying.

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Information is everything. Everybody wants information.

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That already tells you something.

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You know, these guys that I met in there, they had these stories. They've been telling that lie for so damn long that they actually probably believe he'd be a baseball bat. And it was just funny. I just kind of randomly went on there to look for myself. Yeah. And then I was like, you know what? Let me just type in some of these guys that I knew.

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30 40 burglaries that they finally decide to just condense into just one when i turned the day after i turned 17 and was charged as an adult you know and then it was it was just it was extensive you know and it was it was kind of like sloppy you know what i mean it was like smash and grab we would literally take a sledgehammer to the front of a business run in there and grab us i mean we're not really coming up on like some really really big money you know what i mean

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And it was just like, man, I was like, man, if I didn't know, I would have never sit there and talk to you. Like that, that is a true thing about that. Like, you know, about, um, rape and like, uh, molestation, like on kids and stuff like that. Like guys don't, they definitely do take that a certain way in prison. Yeah.

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Because like, I've, for example, uh, I knew a Sally that I used to keep pictures of his kids. up, right? And then he had noticed his roommate one day would like be like, when guys are in there jacking off, whatever, you know, you hear the little thing, yeah, there's a little cold light, you know, hey, I need the room for a little while. But he would notice his pictures would be moved.

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Like it wouldn't be put back in the exact right spot. And that was it, bro.

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No, I heard some, some, some pads. You got TV.

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That's the only time we get. And I would buy as many of those trays as I could. And then you obviously package food. You get the holiday package where they can send you eggs.

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If they didn't have it on commissary, I paid probably $15 for a bottle of soy sauce that a guy got transferred over.

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at his store at that other camp because commissaries are different based on where camp you're at. So when you get transferred over, you're bringing your commissary with you. And man, those are exotics. Like, you know, things that you just can't, if you just can't have it, man, that price goes up just like drugs. Oh my God.

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Like the cause of drugs and in prison is astronomical compared to like the markup.

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Because if you're going to make something that covers something, you're going to make it look good.

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That is the hustle now. Even when I was in Rice Street, it's funny. The trustees at Rice Street, the guys who brought the trays down around and stuff like that, They were allowed to have cigarettes in their commissary, but like other inmates weren't allowed to have it. Right. And every time you see the trustees come around passing out trays, I mean, they got gold chains on every ring.

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Every finger has diamond rings on it because it writes you, you are allowed to bring up one piece of jewelry, a watch or, or a ring or your necklace or whatever like that. And these guys were literally trading out like $10,000 worth,

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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chains four or five packs of roll-up cigarettes you know what i mean like those guys are nuts yeah it's not i'll and it's another story i'll tell you i was sitting at the uh holding cell at uh atlanta city jail when i was after the after the attempted murder and there was a guy in there snuck a snickers bar like you said snuck a snickers bar to the holding cell right and there was another dude in there i was like hey man what would you take for that snickers bar you know and the guy's like no i don't really want to give it up you know what i'm saying he's like

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Come on, man. What would you get for that Snickers bar, right? This guy peeled out like a diamond ring, a gold chain. I'm probably talking about like at least like $15,000, $20,000 worth of jewelry for that Snickers bar. And he gave it up for the Snickers bar because it's just like... what is this going to do for me right now? Like this might be the last, I can't bring it with me.

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I want the Snickers bar. Right. You know what I mean?

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Oh yeah. And that's what kills me is like, you know, I'm sitting in a hotel and somebody's talking and I'm like, you're in there for a fucking goddamn DUR or some shit. Like, You're about to be home and you're sitting here crying about this shit. And I don't know if I'm going to be in here for the rest of my life for all I know. You know what I mean? Like that also like.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Also like when, uh, the day I, when I found out I got parole, right. I was like, no, I knew. i don't tell anybody yeah yeah and then they but the day that i left i i walked out handed to my boys some of my things like hey man i'll see you guys That was it. People get jealous. People will fuck you up just because they know that like, hey, you're about to go home and they're not.

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And the thing that's funny is because my crew, we would literally go to Church's Chicken, get an eight-piece box, and each person would get a piece of chicken and a bowl of rice. And that's how we would sum our money together. And eight-piece box at Church's Chicken back then was like $5.99. And we could feed the whole crew. But definitely, yeah, we were drugs.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And this person could even be your friend. Right. You know what I mean? It could be a friend of yours that still feels that way. You just don't tell anybody. I don't tell anybody. Literally, they found out when I was walking out carrying all my shit. You know what I mean? You just don't tell people.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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no clue and i always kind of said like this too like when you're in prison it's like you're dead right because time stops for you at that point all you do in prison is regurgitate stories that you've that you had when you were free right because you're not talking about nothing else you're just telling war stories right so time for you completely stops whereas outside the world the time's still moving

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You stop maturing too. Yeah. Everything stops. You're stopped at that point in your life. That is what you are. And you do not get any, any, any better. Right. Right. And, and like when people come to visit you, it's like, I say it's like come and visit a gravestone. You know what I mean? Until you get out. And that's when time starts back for you again.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Like I went in with like pagers when I, when pagers were around, that's when I, when I got locked up, I come out and there's dial up internet. Like,

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I came out with cell phones. I had dial-up in there. The amount of porn that I found. Because that's one thing they did take away in prison. They took away all the magazines, right? So that was a hustle. I had several pages. I didn't have whole magazines. I had pages from some. You know what I mean? With the tape over it, right? This is a hustle too.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You want to borrow my girl, it costs you a hundred bucks. You can borrow her to get you your straightening, right? So like... Man, I had masturbated to the same girl wrongly on all many times, right? I get out of prison, I'm like, the internet, I don't think I left the computer for a week of that. I mean, it was just, it was crazy. It just blew my mind. The whole internet thing just blew my mind.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yes. And that was only three years. Because it went from pagers. And when I got out, it was cell phones. And it was right when those Nokia phones were happening. Everybody had Snake. I don't know if you were around at that time. The game Snake. You remember? And they had the different... That's when I got out, right? So now... Cell phones were like mobile and text messages. All this was all new.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Even in Atlanta now, I mean, if you go looking up the line of like, hey, the bot from the user going on, who he gets it from, he gets it from, somewhere on that line. somebody's going to deal with a slant eyed person. Right. You know what I mean? Because in Georgia, they, they, they're, they're coming in at the top. Right. You know what I mean?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And, you know, all I knew was pages. But that is now the hot item in prison. Cell phones. Yeah. Like those. I mean, one cell phone will go for thousands of dollars in prison. You know, But I'm hearing now they're giving out, like, tablets. Yeah. Federal prison, they've got tablets. They've got tablets out, right? Yeah. And things like that. It's just different now.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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But, like, the tobacco is the big thing. You know how they're getting it in nowadays? You know, before, you know, the tennis ball or they get it through visitation, right?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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The drones. They're doing the drone drops now. And that's crazy that that's how sophisticated that they have become to override the system, to get away, get around the system. Like, it's always a way to get around the system.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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They're going to figure something out because they have nothing to do but time to think about it. Right. You know what I mean? Nothing else to do but time to think about it. Like, I mean, just like the guy from Shawshank Redemption. Look how many years it took him to dig out that hole with that little stupid rock hammer. You know what I mean? He had nothing but pressure and time, man.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It's not the fear of going or being in there. It's the fear of losing your freedom. The fear of like, hey, like now we have, I don't know how old you were when you went. I was very young. So now I have responsibilities that, you know, back then I didn't have responsibilities. So it was, it was no big deal. But now I go in, who's going to pay the mortgage? Who's going to take care of my kids?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You know what I mean? Like there are ramifications now that are way more important. But back then, you know, I didn't think about those things. So, how old were you the last time you got out?

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Believe it or not, it was kind of like a stroke of luck here. So one of my guys, like you said, your buddies, and they're like your clique, right? One of my guys got out six months after me, right? And his mom was an administrative assistant at a big accounting firm, right? And so they hire people to come in seasonally to help out

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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during tax season right so he got me a job there as a temp that ended up turning into a career a 20-year career like i was actually a corporate auditor for affordable housing for a top 10 for a top 10 accounting firm for 20 years you've got multiple felonies

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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doesn't matter well because you work underneath them well it's actually funny because i i literally lied on my because back then in 2003 it wasn't as easy to run a background check right as it is now now it's just they got companies out there like you know i i couldn't even get hired for uh uber

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So, and I know lots of them, like a lot of black guys that I know, they're like, yeah, man, my, my plug is, I, I, I fucks with you Asian guys. You know what I'm saying? You know, but as an Asian, I always felt like, You know, they say the term model minority or whatever. With white people, I feel like we're tolerated. You know, we're looking at as like non-threatening. Right. Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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right you know what i mean like even though my last crime was like over 20 something years ago it doesn't matter you know what i mean like um but uh what happened was i went and it was happened katrina happened right and after katrina happened and the gulf coast was like annihilated right uh the u.s government gave mississippi an eight billion dollar grant

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I was a practicing Georgia Southern Baptist at the time, but this was the day that I lost all religion.

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to to fix right to help to rebuild to rebuild so they hired our firm to implement a process and how to delegate out this money okay right so they sent us to mississippi to oversee these centers that had these people coming in and applying for these grants right

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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But what happened was because it was a government funded program, we had run background checks on all the people who worked there because we hired people that were our locals there. We oversaw them. But on the back end, They ended up wanting to have to run among us because we had to have the clearance. Right. Right. So then I was like, this is already too late. I had already did the job. Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So I was like, fuck, this was like five, six years in. Right. I'm like, I went to my partner, closed the door. First thing he said to me was like, please don't tell me you're about to quit. And I was like, no, but that doesn't necessarily mean I'll still have a job when I walk out of the store. Right. And I laid my cards on the table. You know what I mean? And it was very like hush hush.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It was, I worked for two partners.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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No, she's definitely been working there.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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This is a partner of the firm. And so it went from him and my other partner that I worked for, two guys. And then they went to the head managing partner of the Atlanta office. right and then he had to fly all the way to bethesda which is where our corporate headquarters to talk to the partner over hr about it because immediately it's they're they're they're uh

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Their proper way to handle it is immediate termination. But they saw that I was an asset.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I worked so hard and I'm an asset. I was bringing in money. So then they were like, you know, they went to talk to her and what all ended up happening was just like, look, us four people know, that's it. Right. We don't ever tell anybody else anything. We just sweep it under the rug.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Because the reason why is let's say something happens there and online, another guy happens, they fire him and he's like, yo... What happened to Panda? Why didn't Panda get fired? You know what I'm saying? So it was all swept under the rug. So that was like five, six years into my career. I stayed in it another 15 years. You know what I mean? And unfortunately...

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I actually got let go about a year ago, you know, from the job. It was, it broke my heart. Cause it was like, dude, I was loyal to you guys for 20 years. You know, like my boss was loyal to you for 20 years and you threw me away like a piece of trash. You know what I mean? Was there a reason? Just they were layoffs? No, it wasn't even a layoff. It's really kind of all of a mystery, honestly.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It kind of came out of the blue. There was no severance, but it wasn't a firing. They were just saying that my position is no longer, has been dissolved, that they don't have the need anymore. Because I was still making them a lot of money. You know, I was bringing in the firm probably like $500,000, $600,000 a year. Easily covered my salary. Right. And they were making a nice bit of change.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And with with black folks, we look as looked at as easy victims, you know. So to me, it was always kind of like a fitting in. So really, we just fit in with each other.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yes, they probably could have hired somebody else cheaper than me. You know what I mean? But honestly, like, you know, I'm only making that because you guys gave it to me. I've been with you for 20 years. That's why I kind of mess with my head, man. It's like, you know, these trust issues, right?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So, like, Yeah, let me go. And then now I'm finding how hard it is to get a job with it. Like I said, I got turned down by Uber. And you gotta remember how humbling I had to be to like, you know, I'm working, I was like a corporate auditor with office for president for 20 years. And then now I humble myself to that and I still can't get a job. It's just that thing carries with you forever.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And they don't care how long ago. They don't even give you the opportunity to even explain it. They don't care. And you know what? My charges were so bad. I hit every point. One, burglaries. So I'm a thief, right? Two, aggravated assault, I remember. I'm violent. Three, drugs. I mean, it doesn't matter what it is. Look at the job it is. I'm going to hit the strike mark on that.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Worst employee, worst potential for unemployment. So even though I have 20 years of experience, It doesn't matter. Yeah. It doesn't matter at all. You know, so that's why I've kind of like branched out. That's why I'm even doing this show with you right now, because this was a deep, dark secret. I could never have my career with this being out there. You know what I mean?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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But now I found out that that career doesn't matter anymore because there is no potential there anymore. So that's why I'm like, I'm coming out from behind the curtain. I'm not going to be that because I used to wear a mask. I mean, obviously, I can't wear corporate America walking in. You know what I mean? I wore that mask. You know what I mean? For 20 years, you know, but now, hey, man.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I don't have to be a mastermind. I don't need to hide behind a curtain. Obviously, I'm just going to be me and let the world see who I am and figure out.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Uh, I'm not looking in, in that route. I'm looking more of as an entrepreneur. Right. So, uh, I've created a school curriculum. I was there. I went back to Vietnam, you know? Yeah. I went back to Vietnam last year for the first time.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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in in my entire life in 40 years first time i ever went back since you were six months old yes so six months old i went back for the first time and honestly i was in a dark place you know what i mean like i had like depression issues and things that i mean trust issues you know right and it's all it's on my bucket list to go back

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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know what i mean so i by myself went back for a month and it just opened my eyes to a completely different way of living and like culturally like over there when they honk the horn at you it's not like a you kind of thing right it's like hey just letting you know i'm here you know what i mean it's it's it's a courtesy right you know what i mean like you'll see these intersections that have like no stop lights

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And there are like a million scooters and cars that are just going through the centers. And yet there are no accidents because people just let people go. You know what I mean? It's just, it's just, it's just a completely different lifestyle. And it kind of like, kind of rejuvenated me that like, hey, this is pretty awesome. You know what I mean?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Like, and so like, I, I was trying to think like, what, what ability do I have? You know? So I can teach English, you know? So I'm creating an online school. That I could teach. It's like they're 12 hours apart from us. So like my classes would be like 7, 8, 9, 10 p.m. here. And over there it'd be seven, eight, nine, 10 AM. Okay. You know, and I'm looking for, and this is a totally new venture.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I haven't like completely, I've already created my own curriculum. Right. And everything, but I now have to go get the students, you know, so we're, we're in a phase right now where I am trying different avenues. Right. So my rap thing is, is one avenue, the school. There's one avenue.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Also, I'm considering maybe opening some kind of business here because being your own boss, obviously it doesn't matter what your record is. Right. You know what I mean? So, uh, I had to liquidate my retirement to be able to last for now. Whoa. I mean, it sucked. That really hurt. But it's kind of like, hey, the bills keep coming. I have children. You know what I mean? But I'm in that hustle mode.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You know, I'm in the hustle mode. I'm now not afraid to tell my story anymore. Like, my rapping is a lot of, like, street, you know? I mean, and they're not lies. They're just, like, it's just real life shit that I went through. But the difference is a lot of these rappers nowadays, like 21 Savage and them, they're living that life right now. Like, they're rapping about their life right now.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, that's why they're still getting shot every once in a while. That's why they're still going through all that shit. With me, it's like, hey, I'm just telling you about how I used to live it. You know what I mean? Because for 20 years, I was not some gangster like that. I was a corporate guy and a model citizen for 20 years. But now circumstances have led to things. So I'm looking for avenues.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Honestly, I'm hoping maybe this might even be...

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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a jump start for something that might be able to help me you know what i mean uh so i'm always just looking for different avenues uh i do have a very good network in atlanta a lot of people know me uh so i am now just starting to reach out and try to see like i don't want to have all my eggs in one basket but whichever basket happens to be one that takes off is the one that i want to focus manage on yeah you know what i mean yeah you gotta double down on what's making you money exactly so

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You know, I have, like I said, my own channels. I got music that I got out. And we'll just see what happens to take off. What channels? I got a YouTube channel that's got some of my songs on there. If we sample some of the songs, you guys hear some of the stuff. What's the name of the channel? It's all Panda. Panda? Yeah, I will send you all my social links. How did Panda come about?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Well, the thing is, I kind of feel to myself like pandas are an Asian thing. Right. But people forget that pandas are actually still fucking bears.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You know, they're cuddly in all these videos, but you keep forgetting that they're a fucking bear still. You know what I mean? So that's kind of like how I feel like I am, right? I come at you in a very smiley way, but inside...

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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it could go I'm a fucking bear still you know what I mean like don't get it twisted you know and like a lot of things have happened I don't know if you noticed that my limp when I walked in I noticed on the Instagram page you have a brace on one of the legs right so what happened in 2009 I was hit by a drunk driver And I was on a motorcycle. And unfortunately, he had no insurance.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He was an illegal. Right. So I was in intensive care. I went through surgeries. And so basically, I lost the use of my right leg. I have the leg, I just don't have the nerves. Because basically my right foot was here when I showed up. It means I was laying on top of my leg that folded under my body. Not to mention, you know, you see here, made these arms broke down. I was like Wolverine.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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My left leg was also broken. They didn't think I was going to survive. I literally they are the first responders that showed up, treated it as it was going to be a homicide. They they roped off the scene and collected evidence because they thought that there's no way I was going to make it, that this guy was going to be charged with a homicide. But I made it. I didn't have any brain damage.

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Eh, maybe.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Jerry's still out on that. Ain't no more than I've done to myself. You know? How long were you, was it to recover? I mean, to this day, I'm still, you know, I still take medication over and I still have like nerve, like nerve ending pains because the nerves ripped, you know what I mean? So, but it took, it took a while to get to where I was right now.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Cause I mean, at that time, remember both arms, both legs were broken, but bones heal. You know, so like, I was literally like, I couldn't do anything. Right. You know, and that was a very humbling experience, you know, to like have someone have to take care of you that you couldn't do. I couldn't brush my own teeth. Yeah. I couldn't take a shit. Right. You know what I mean?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Like, it's a humbling experience to, to, to have to go through that, you know, but it taught me, you know, um, then I went through a breakup after that I was in a seven and a half years relationship.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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we got engaged and then like parted ways so then i kind of basically like uh i was a shell of myself for a while from after that i was like a hermit i just didn't i was in that dark place and i stayed there you know i was in the house by myself i got a dog You know what I mean? And he kind of saved me, too, because he wasn't necessarily an emotional pet or anything like that.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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But he he forced me to be like, look, I need you to feed me. I need you to take care of me. You have to get up off your ass because I need you. You know what I mean? But, you know, it's a funny story because I.

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my buddies I have some really good friends out there that I just wouldn't like let me just wither away right you know and they would you know before that I was a big I'm a big social person I'm extroverted I'm at the clubs I'm you know I'm an Atlanta socialite and they kept trying to get me to go out again and things like that and I'm just like man I can't deal with crowd I got made up every fucking excuse under the sun not to go right and so my buddy told me he was like you know what

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Can you sit down? I was like, sit down. Yeah, that's one thing I can do. I can sit down. He's like, I'm going to take you to a place that all you got to fucking do is sit in a chair. Trip club. That's exactly where he fucking took me.

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Exactly where he took me, right? And yeah, I've been to Mons in 2001 Space Odyssey for two years. But that's where it took me. But that's what brought me back. That was my rehabilitation. That'll do it. Because what happened was, in Atlanta, it's $10 for a dance, right? So for $10, she's going to listen to you for the next three, four minutes. So I might as well talk.

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Then I learned to find out that, hey, girls would look past this. If your game is strong enough, you know what I mean? And that kind of brought my confidence level back to becoming the panda that you guys see now, you know, because the way I look at it is like this. When I walk into any place because of my disability, every fucking eye in there is on me. Right. You know, you don't notice.

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Let me ask you, if you're walking down an aisle in Walmart and three people are coming down the same aisle and one's in a wheelchair, which one is the one you're looking at? The one in the wheelchair.

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It's just different. Your eyes are just trained to look at the difference. You're not used to it.

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You're just looking at the difference, right? But from the eye of that person in that wheelchair, every fucking body is looking at it. Right. You know what I'm saying? So, like, when I walk into the gym, I can look around and make eye contact with fucking everybody. You know? It takes a certain level of confidence to finally just say, you know what? If I'm going to be in the fucking spotlight...

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I'm a look good in it and I'm a fucking own it. You know what I mean? Because I'm already going to get the attention anyway. So let's go ahead and rock this attention. Right. You know, and, and it's because of the strip club, but it always say confidence is a catch 22, right? What builds confidence? Success. But how do you get success? You have to have the confidence to go over there and try.

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So, you know, we're talking very organized. Yeah. Organized crime.

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But once you get success, that success builds that confidence up. So now that confidence gives you a more, a chance to go out there and try again. So the more success you get, the more confidence you get. So like now my wheel, It's like this. You know what I mean? Like, I don't let this define me. If you ask me about it, I'll explain it. I don't have a problem explaining it.

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And they also have resources as well. Right. Whereas we are literally a street gang, you know, like our our our organization was not like as defined. And you're young. Yeah, we're young. We didn't have that like, you know, chain of command like like like it was now. definitely, you know, we had our respect and that's the only thing that nobody could take from us.

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But I don't need you to be like, when they say, hey, you know, Panda. I don't want that to be the first thing that comes to mind to describe me. Now, you know, the funny guy, the guy with the grill, the rapper, all those now, if they still don't know, okay, the guy with the limb. Let it be the third, fourth thing that comes down the line. You know what I'm saying? Because that doesn't define me.

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And it's funny because I meet people all the time. And like the third time I'll meet them, they'll be like, oh my God, did you just get an accident? What happened to your leg? Like, I was like this every fucking time I ever met you. You know what I mean? But you ain't ask. I don't care. I ain't tell.

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You don't limp or anything. Well, I didn't see you limping.

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But I do. But, you know, like I said, I just, I don't care. I own it. I don't care. I don't give a fuck what you think about me. I'm at the point where I just don't give a fuck what somebody thinks. Like, you don't pay my bills. You don't fucking affect my life. I may never see you again. Why the fuck do I care about what the fuck you think?

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right that that shit that shit mattered like i got girls when i was young because of my reputation as a rep right now no that rep don't mean shit you know i'm saying like i don't give a fuck what you think you know whatever you know i mean like if it's a brand or something like that yeah i'll listen but it's like honestly like if you're not like doing anything to benefit me

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Why do I... Your opinion doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean shit. And, like, I'm the type that, like, if you're a parasite, I'm going to remove you. Trash belongs in the trash. I don't give a fuck what it is. You know what I'm saying? Like, so, like, negative energy, all that shit, I'll leave it away for a minute.

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So, this right here is Guan Yu, which is the... It's kind of weird. Cause it's, it's a Chinese. He's like the, uh, God of war. Okay. Right. And I got a lot of rash from that accident. Yeah. Yeah. Well, this is the recent accident.

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Right. So that's one year right here. He rise is on a horse, which is right. And that's him here. Okay. That was much more clear. He's the Chinese god of war. Which is weird because this is Chinese, but yet the dragon and stuff is like the Yakuza, like Japanese.

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It's the Japanese. But to me, it doesn't matter. It's like, it's Asian. I'm Asian.

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We're all the same thing. You know what I mean? But yeah, that's who he is. You know? And like, you know... Where'd you get that? I got it in Vietnam. Yeah, I figured that. I got it in Vietnam. And...

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and in asian culture jade is a very big thing it's luck prosper you know prosperity and things like that so like being an asian guy i i can pull this off what's this one that's just a dragon okay this is a dragon oh yeah nothing special um but yeah man that's uh i said i i i said i i conformed for 20 years like i was that But you know what? Still, even in those 20 years, I was still Panda.

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When it was time for me to be... When I was at work, I was that guy. I wore the mask. But when I'm on my time, I'm going to be me. Like I own over 200 and something pair of Jordans, right? Why do I own 200 pair of Jordans? No idea. Because when I was a kid, I couldn't have them.

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Like we shopped at Payless. You know what I'm saying? Like if I had my, I remember my very first pair of Jordans. He got game 13s, right? And the only reason why I had that pair was because I took it off some kid off Marta. He happened to wear my size. You know what I mean? Like there was no way mom was paying that money.

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Well, that's also kind of what you were, you were going for. You're just trying not to be a victim. That's all it is. It's trying not to be a victim, but in that did not be one, you had to earn the respect. Right. So it was like an everyday of earning that. So it was, it's kind of like a little different.

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I guess we got a lot in common, you know, but yeah, it's a guilty pleasure. And to me, it's almost kind of like, it really is kind of still like investment. They hold value. Like if shit gets the van, like I can sell them and they have value.

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That's still now. This is only a few years ago. Well, back then, like, well, the Jordan game used to be very where they were very elite. They came out once a month and now they're coming out every other weekend. Yeah. Every weekend. I think he's fucking it up where he's kind of flooding the market with a little bit. Then now they're not as prestigious as they used to be.

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but back then yeah i was waiting in line at lenny's mall or you know i had a guy you know or some kind of plug now they got bots that literally will go online and and buy them off these websites and then they go to resale you know i mean but yeah like but i was never a guy people call me a sneaker head i'm not a sneaker head i don't i i buy shoes because i have over 100 pair of jordan

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Yeah, but it's because I like the colors. I buy based on a color to fit an outfit more than like, hey, is this one hype? Is this one super valuable? I don't care about that. I actually hate it when it comes along like that because if there's a pair that I did want that is hype, now it's going to be harder for me to get that pair.

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And plus, you know what, the Chinese that, you know, they, they, they, they, they're within their community. You know, we are not, we are an outsider to, within a community you know they they are the leaders or the the fear of their community whereas we are we're not we're we're we are just one

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you know what i mean but like yeah i buy them based on like just a lot of my uh tags are like panda and jays like you know i'm a panda that wears jays you know what i mean like but now i kind of kind of step my game up i like a little bit designer so you know i'm which i shouldn't because one pair of versace's i could have bought like four you know but yeah shoes is kind of like my my guilty pleasure definitely and uh and and clothing and

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i like to kind of like go in my own lane you know like i said once you get once you stop giving a shit what people think about you you're just gonna be yourself right you know yeah and i think a lot of people you'd be surprised how many people like step up to me and just like hey man i i really like your fit or you know i really like how you rock this or whatever you know but i didn't do it for you i did it because that's how i like to wear it you know i mean and

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But yeah, apparently a lot of people do like the way I dress and I've been sent like as an ambassador, they'll send me free products so that I can like, I mean, I wish it got to the point where I like Gucci and shit. Maybe one day I get big enough where Gucci is sending me free shit to wear their stuff. You know, it's a little stuff here and there.

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But yeah, I mean, I kind of consider myself a little bit of a trendsetter. People always tell me to write my memoirs because I've been through so much tragedy in my life. I've been through some hardships. Why don't you write it?

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You know what I use for that? I use Facebook for that. Believe it or not. We might have to clip that out.

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I've actually had broken down chapters.

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No, the doing it, I don't think is the problem. It's the me wanting it how it ends. You know what I mean?

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If it happens at all.

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corner of a community that really doesn't isn't even ruled by us right you know i mean honestly i mean let's be honest i mean the the projects are ruled by the african americans you know what i mean it's just that we weren't going to be victims of right but if you didn't group together then you guys are prey because you're walking around by yourself and so you need to be a group yeah we had to have this yes i was gonna say we we interviewed a guy uh yesterday with the um

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Things aren't working out. Yeah. But we're hoping that they will. You know, I do try to keep like, because when I talk to other people, a lot of people tell me I should be a motivational speaker because I'm like that prep. I'm a hell of a pep coach. You know what I'm saying? But sometimes it's hard to even take your own advice sometimes. You know what I mean?

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Like sometimes it's easier said than done. Like I see a psychiatrist and a therapist once a month. You know, I have demons. Right. You know? So like, because one of the main things that I have PTSD is, from my accident. And it's one of the worst PTSD you could imagine because it's like, I woke up on the ground, conscious, on the floor, broken, right? I look up, I can see it.

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It was like around eight or nine o'clock in the evening. I see a street lamp, you know? And like, I was a practicing Georgia Southern Baptist at the time, but this was the day that I lost all religion, right? I basically saved my own life with my own intelligence. I basically assessed my own situation by saying, one, I don't feel any pain, so I know I'm in shock right now.

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Number two, I can't move, so there are definitely things broken. Number three, I'm getting very, very tired. I know I'm losing a lot of blood, right? So I'm like, okay, I'm losing a lot of blood. You see in the movies all the time, they say, don't fall asleep, don't fall asleep, right? I felt like I hadn't slept in months, right? And I have no interaction. That's just me and my own consciousness.

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And I'm looking up at this light and I'm like, as soon as I don't see this light anymore, I'm dead. You know what I mean? And I sat there for 15 minutes, like literally slapping myself in my conscience to stay awake, you know? And it was the hardest battle I've ever had in my entire life. Those 15 minutes. Because it was just so much easier just to say, I'm going to go to sleep.

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I felt like it was so exhausting. So now I equate losing consciousness with dying. So I have massive insomnia. Right. You know, because like sometimes I like I feel like I'm I'll jerk back up. You know what I mean? Because my body just doesn't want to let go. You know, so like I have like the worst things like it's like Freddy Krueger shit like you're scared to go. You can't go to sleep.

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You know, like, you know, and so like, yeah, like that's and that actually really only just popped up recently. I wasn't I hadn't always had that. It was after the pandemic. The pandemic fucked me up, man. I'm such an extrovert that that isolation, it caused my brain to get all kinds of fucked up.

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And trying to cure it, even my therapist says, curing your PTSD is not these drugs that I prescribe you. You have to be able to do it yourself. You have to go into your brain and cut it off.

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but you tell me that but like how the fuck do i do it you know like how do i tell myself like hey you know like go to sleep you're just going to sleep man no big deal let's go to sleep you know yeah i do that but then my body just jerks up on its own you know what i mean like i just but that that is like a horrible fucking thing to have to deal with on a daily basis right you know what i mean like and i mean we could talk for hours but i have like so many other hardships i could dump on you but like

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We don't want this to be some super sad, sad story. You know what I mean? I would have liked to have been able to plug in some of my songs. You want to hear some of it? You want to just hear some of my stuff?

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Like we can end it with your music. That'd be awesome. Yeah.

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No, it's not because I was talking about recovering yet. I mean, I have an, I have an English song and I have a Vietnamese song, which is probably better to go with. The English Show Day, right? Is it the same song in English? No. Okay. Two completely different songs. But this one is not like one of my gangster songs.

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This is more of like a party, go to the strip club, have fun kind of song, right?

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It's radio ready type song. Let's see. I don't know if you want to hear it. Dom actually did another song for me, which is really cool. It's called The Book of Michael. Okay. And the whole rap, you know anything about Jordans at all? About what? Jordans. Well, Jordans, they come in a lot of different colorways. Yeah. Right? Like the Brez, the Concours, this and that. So I did a rap that I hid...

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Over 45, 46 colorways within the song, but the whole song doesn't speak about Michael Jordan, doesn't speak about shoes, has nothing to do with basketball. You know what I mean? But I just used those colorways literally. Like green glow is a colorways. I'll be like green glow and ATL aliens never gave a damn. Kick a lunar lullaby or a bump in space jam. Space jam.

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If they're fans. And I think that will cause people to talk like, wow. Because my very last line of the rap is, well, how many did you catch hidden in my verse?

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Like I said, this is like a jumping out party. Like literally I created the, my YouTube channel last night. You know what I mean? I posted these new songs on it just so that they would place it. Cause I want to see if there's video people like me and they, they want to see more. I just want to have material out there, you know? So I kind of like, I kind of like steamrolled everything really quick.

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like the creamy and like a still picture of you like chilling in the chair it's actually cool the creamy we have a cover art for it and the cover art for my creamy is it the thumbnail it is with the panda yes but if you know that's like the notorious bigs or if you remember notorious bigs album where he's the baby sitting there oh yeah that's like the very reminiscent of the notorious big is just uh the panda bear you know sitting there um

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Yeah, this is better. Right, right. You know? So that would be, like, thumbnail for Creamy. But then, like, I also have, like, a Vietnamese song as well that I rap. Because I'm like, why close out on the market? That's something that I know. I think it would be a lot easier to become a Vietnamese star. Right, right. Than it would be to be the next Drake. You know what I mean?

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I mean, great if I'm the next Justin Bieber or Drake, but that's a star that's way out there and a lot harder to hit than to become the next Ben Z, who you've never heard of, but he's probably the most popular Vietnamese rapper. But his, Ben Z has like 1.7 million subscribers on YouTube. You know what I mean? And he's just a Vietnamese rapper that nobody here even has heard of.

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You know what I mean? So like, you know, I, and I'm in the process, I write all my songs, so like,

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i have a lot of songs in production it's just getting into the studio and getting all this stuff and getting copyright and getting publishing and and it's and it's just all slow moving when you know i have other people who have to play these roles like my manager and like you know my producers it's getting time to kind of all squeeze it in because they they don't do all this stuff real full-time either they they they have their life and you know they do that as a side thing you know and

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right but yeah that's one thing like i said uh the school is another thing um i don't think that your show will help me be able to plug in any any any help there but i mean yeah i mean i definitely uh i want to do a radically you know uh idea of like the school because the school i want to teach because in vietnam you only have like this super uber rich And then you have the poor.

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There's no middle class. Like you go over to Vietnam and you'll see like the streets are full of scooters, right? And then there's a Lamborghini in the middle of them.

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right you know what i mean like that's just how vietnam is you know so i would teach to the the elite over there and like i want to be able to have it because i do actually have like connections within a lot of the celebrities within that circle and my school would have celebrity guest appearances things like that that normal it's like imagine you go into a school where justin timberlake schools kids go and he shows up in class you might teach a lesson

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You know what I mean? Like that's kind of the direction I'm going. But like I said, that's just one basket. It's just whatever happens to be able to take off. It's where I'm going to go. And also I'm thinking since this podcast thing, and I actually have a lot of this equipment already too, because I record. Right. That I could leapfrog that into my own podcast. Right. You know what I mean?

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And it doesn't necessarily need to be about me. You know what I mean? But I am connected within Atlanta. I could interview with a lot of people who are influential in Atlanta. Right. You know what I mean? Or, you know, just about different topics. You know, like I, you know, I'm a talker. Right. So like, you know, like I could be you. Right. And it's hard.

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No, there is no difference than the regular Chinese now who like they're manufacturing. Now, Vietnam does most of the manufacturing for China. We thought Chinese labor was cheap. Vietnamese labor is even cheaper. You know what I mean? So, you know, they're very smart in that way. You know, Chinese people definitely know how to

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And it's hard being you when you have somebody here that gives you yes, no answers. Right. It's tough. Yeah. It's tough because it's like dragging teeth with trying to like, getting, getting communication, asking questions to get, well, everyone's wanting to get one of those. And that's the, the worst thing at all is that like, that like awkward silence. Yeah. You know what I mean?

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Like, uh, you know, sometimes you gotta pull it out. You have to pull it out. And it's only certain people who can do that. Right. I, I can do that. I, I can, I can ask, I, I've never been on a date where like, I have like that awkward silence. Now there are some days that I have to work harder to get you to talk, but

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most time people love to talk about themselves right or love to talk about anything that they're passionate about you know what i mean so i steer them in that direction um do you want me to do a sign a sign off or you're just going to end it with him playing the song well where where would you like people if they can contact you and

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Yeah, I have everything, but my Instagram is probably my most, has the most traffic is my Instagram. But like I said, everything I created, like I have Twitter. Do you have a link tree? I don't have a link tree. I should do that, where it has everything all together.

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Oh, no, man. Thank you. You're giving me an opportunity, bro. That's why Tyler was like, I'm just like, man, you're doing me the favor. You are allowing your audience to be introduced to me.

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use other not I wouldn't even just say Chinese I would just say first world Asians yeah and it's funny because a buddy of mine he's Korean like he hates black people but he his all his business is

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She got it on the nose.

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The one thing I don't fend off are pants because nobody gives a fuck where your pants came from. This is Versace. This is Alexander McQueen. My joggers are literally like $19.99 on Amazon.

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Like, wow, he really looks after his guests like that? I was like, seriously? I was like, okay, I guess, you know?

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I'll thank God.

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I said, this is what... God, he painted me so horribly, bro.

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I did ask that, like, you know, I smoke a lot of weed.

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Right? So I was like, is that cool? No? Okay. And I was like, okay, that was the only thing... What? That it was... That I was just going to just like...

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No, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that was the only thing that I said. And then I was like, I smoke cigarettes, too. So if these are going to be long, I'd like to take a break and smoke a cigarette here and there. No, but this blew by. Fucking fruit? No. Or, dude, if you gave me tap water, I would have. Seriously? No. Well, it's funny.

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feeds off of them like he makes gold grills and he you know like you know he feeds off of them to for his income but internally he he hates them right you know what i mean and it's like um but yet they understand like hey this is where the money is this is how to get it and they're just they're still gonna deal with who they have to deal with they're not saying no we'll only deal with our kind they're saying i'll deal with anybody as long as i make money that's the thing about like like china like china's

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100% pilot. because it actually caught me off guard when he texted me like do you want like sparkling water or uh spring water and i'm like dude i don't care if it's tap like yeah he definitely i i he had me going like this guy's a diva and like he was like literally like what fruit specifically do you like and i'm like I like watermelon. I thought it was his question.

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It's like, I like strawberries. If you're going to ask me what I like, I'll tell you what I like, but I'm not like, I did not, I'm not demanding anything.

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Oh yeah. That's totally, that's all I am. I'll show you the, I'll show you. That has nothing to do with me at all.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah.

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That's the face I get right there.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Mm-hmm.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I'm gonna say Sean gets I said less than 90 days or less. I would say that Mark gets Less than two years. Two years or less.

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I'm shocked you can say that. I'll never be able to say that.

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404B, like other bad acts.

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I was going to say they can, they can.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Relevant conduct. That's what I'm thinking. Relevant conduct. Yeah.

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Harsh, but he's, you know, he was, you know, whatever, unrepentant, probably plenty repentant while he was being sentenced. But he waited until the day of jury.

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Yeah. Okay. So, yeah. I'd say probably I would have said three years, five years seems excessive, but no big deal.

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Oh, that's so wrong.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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No, because I didn't notice. It was actually one of my mortgage brokers. I actually saw the – realized they're like – like came in one day and said, so – There's a cop. He's like, there's somebody across the street in a car watching us. He was there yesterday. He's there today. He's been there for several hours. And we have we are right.

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This office I had was right across the street from the post office. OK, he's sitting. So there's this huge post office parking lot. Right. Then the post office. So here's the main street. Right. He's not parked like you got this huge parking lot. He's parked right here, right next to the street. Like you could, if you're going to the post office, you would park close to it. It's completely empty.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It's not a lot of action in the post office. And he's watching, you know, he's watching. And so I was like, nah, but I mean, hours go by and hours go by. And you could see him like, what are you doing? Spending hours in your car. And he wasn't that far away. And if you, if you know, like you wouldn't notice him unless you were looking. Right. And so one of my brokers said,

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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went over there to talk to him, to say, hey, what's going on? And as he approached him, as he's walking, the guy's got the window down, and as he's walking over towards him, he's looking at him, and he says, he's like, hey, bro, he's like, are you watching us across the streets? Why are you approaching me? Don't approach me. And he said, what? He goes, do not approach me. The guy's poorly trained.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Oh, and he said, so... Police officer? No, no, this is police. This is the local police. This is... And he said, do not approach me. Get in your vehicle. Go away. That's what that's what my broker told me, he said. Right. I later found out my broker, they had a conversation, a brief conversation. And as far as I am, what what ended up coming from that conversation was he gave his business card.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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because i didn't you know he came back he said yeah he told me not to approach him he said i can't talk to you he was lying yeah i think my broker was lying yeah because later one of my other brokers told me the guy's name was dominic uh by the way that had approached him he was like you know dominic i got that that guy's business card right i'm like what because yeah he talked to him because i we watch we're all watching yeah

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And I'm like, he did? He's like, yeah, he got his business card for some reason. So I'm assuming that Dominic basically went up to him and said, hey, bro, like if you're watching the thing, give me your business card. I'll call you later. You know, something like that. Dominic has been in this situation before. He ran a used car lot where the owner was being investigated.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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They had approached Dominic. This is a state thing. The FDLE had approached him and said,

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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uh his his the owner of the company was not paying some kind of tax related to cars so he was faking the stamp or something that you get to save money on every transaction something was happening but they had approached him like because he's just a manager there right like hey this is what's happening he knows the drill about cooperating he knew to cooperate yeah so he had he cooperated immediately with that guy and uh

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It's funny, too, because once I went to prison, there was another case that he was involved in where he cooperated in that case. He's never been found guilty. And on my case, he's listed as an unnamed co-conspirator on my indictment. He's never...

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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so yeah so yeah i've been that and then i've been followed before multiple times i was followed on the interstate one time okay did you know you were followed or did you wait to the discovery and then you see it once again i did no no this time i knew i this time i knew you saw somebody in the rearview mirror but i didn't the guy the guy that was driving yeah said you know this guy there's a guy following us i was like what and he's like yeah there's a guy following us i said no he's like yeah bro i'm telling you he's been following he and then so finally i said

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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We were driving. He said, you want me to try and lose him? I was like, I don't know. We're on I-75. So as we're driving, I said, you know what? I said, this guy's following us. I said, you know what? Pull over and stop on the interstate. Yeah. Pull over and just stop. He's like, all right, pulls over, boom, stops, bam. The guy drives right by and I thought, yeah, we're fine.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And then he pulls over and stops.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I would think it'd be boring.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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These people are $50,000 to $100,000 investments.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Oh, I'm very excited. It's everywhere in, in prison.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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No, it's actually a chemical and guys would, they would, you'd have some ice or whatever, mail you a book and the guy would be like, I'm going to mail you a book and I'm,

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Anybody who says guaranteed, it's already a scam.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Really? Did you ever say anything to him? Like, do you remember me? No. It wasn't my case.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I wasn't in charge of interviewing him and all that. Did you tell the other FBI agents?

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Were they laughing?

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Again, it wasn't my case. Contraband.

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Not in person. You familiar with them? Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing. Yeah, of course. It's radiation or the streams of radiation coming off of the sun striking the, right?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Whenever I think of a lot, do you ever think, remember in the show, Northern Lights?

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Bud and breakfast. I'm assuming that it's legal to smoke pot in Alaska.

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And she ran out of church members.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I feel like those people are not going to Alaska to do this. I don't feel like those are people that have the funds or enough resources Regardless, I also feel like none of this money went into this project. But go ahead. Either way. Great. Let's say it's a great idea.

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Yes. Thanks for having me back. Yeah, no problem. Do you cut that out?

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Okay, how about... I got a better deal. How about Brian and I cooperate against Candy because she was the ringleader and she was the brains behind this whole operation. I think you're discounting love. Yeah, love fades quick when you spend four years in prison or three years in prison, whatever. He's going to end up getting... Well, does he plead guilty? He pleads guilty.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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How much time... Wait, Candy was a big girl. She's a big girl.

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No, but the other person got two years and under, right?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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That's just the guidelines. He's never been in trouble.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He cooperated right away. He played guilty, cooperated. He signed a plea. He didn't fight it. They hate it when you fight it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And, uh, yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, exactly. You ever painted a house? Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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The reason I know Tom Brady is because of the FTX.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And his roast. Okay, yeah. And that's it. Listen, Jess and I, last night, I think, we were talking about her mom's trans, whatever, something went out. Mm-hmm. And she said, just said something. I forget what she said. She said, that's got, she said, you know, in touch and such. She said, I mean, it's got posi traction.

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So, and I went and I said, she goes, you know what posi traction is, don't you? And I went, I, and I said, I go, yeah, of course. And she goes, what is it? I said, it's when both the wheels are connected on the axle, they both spin. And I said, cause normally both your wheels don't spin, right? Like you have a slip differential typically, I think. And I said, one wheel spins and one doesn't.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It's whatever one's getting traction. And positive traction is when both spin. And she was like, wow. She's like, how do you know that? I said, because in the movie, my cousin Vinny... when he gets his girlfriend on the stand, she explains what posi traction is. And that's how they figure out that these guys did not kill these beep somebody because there were two tire tracks.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And that would mean it was prior. It was Ponzi track. I mean, it was posi tracking, but I explained it. She just starts laughing. She has, I, she has, I should have known that you didn't know because of your time in engineering school. Yeah. Not because you've ever changed a fucking wheel in your life. She's so, she's just like, Oh my God. So, yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I almost thought you said lookalike.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. Fran wouldn't invest, but yeah, that's incredible.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And so Brady wouldn't invest in some crazy crypto.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Or, or invest any money for France.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, he didn't have any idea this was happening.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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How much did he lose? The whole nine.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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The whole nine's gone.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Nine million. Nine million big ones, Matt Cox. God, plus he's making documents.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Still, I'd say he's never been in trouble before, we're assuming. Did he plead guilty right away? Plead guilty. I'd say probably nine years, less than nine, eight or nine years.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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seven years seven years it was harsher on him yeah a little harsh i don't like like the the the making the fake document like getting they're getting in deeper and deeper like you've got sophisticated means you got you know there's other things that are obviously uh enhancements but then you get to the point where it's like it's more than just you're stealing now you're kind of really causing a lot of damage messing people's lives right right

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I don't know. And the other thing is, how did you possibly think this wasn't going to end in disaster? It's just a jackass move.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, or get him RDAP. I'd probably give him a year off and then probably tell him you got to take the RDAP program. You get another year off to take the RDAP program. So then he'd still be at seven. Listen, I'd still be harsher. Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I think if you could – I think if his lawyer could prove to the judge, document to the judge that it led – to his crime, I could see giving him a little bit of a pass because he had a substance abuse problem. Which, you know, if you could say, now the problem is I'd have to see some kind of proof.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It's the immediate... You're completely uninterested in anything I'm saying. And then Colby says, okay, we're rolling. Hello, Matt Cox.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Well, I think you don't necessarily pass the RDAP program. I think it's offered to you. You have to pass it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And I think, but once again, I think it should be considered a contribution, like a contributing factor to why you did this. If you just did it, I've just stole everything. But if you could say, hey, look, I had a substance abuse problem. I can show you documentation where I tried to go to rehab, where I've got family members who are saying this has been a constant problem in his life.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Like you could show that it was a contributing factor. I would knock off not a lot, but I'd give you something off. Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You know, trying to have a little empathy for somebody.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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She's done. Yeah. There's too much evidence that people deposit money and she's spending it on herself. Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I've never had a drug problem. I've never used drugs. Right. But I... I, you know, and I've had, it's funny, I had a friend, I have a friend who's an alcoholic, well, I probably have a few, but one friend, even growing up, was an alcoholic.

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And I remember going with his, driving with his dad one time, we were going to a closing, and I was actually flipping a piece of property, a contract to his father and his business partner. Totally legitimate thing. So, and we were going, he was like, what am I gonna do with, you know, my son? And we were talking about his son. And I was like, I don't know.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I was like, you know, he's got an alcohol problem. And so we were having this conversation and his father, former Marine, was, I just don't understand that. Like, it's just a matter of choice. If he wanted to stop, he could stop. I was like, yeah, it's not, you know, Chris Bond, I grew up with a father who's an alcoholic. So I'm like, it's not that easy, you know?

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And he's like, but it's just a matter of discipline. So now he's just not disciplined. And he's just saying all these things and I'm like,

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I agree, but I mean, I hear what you're saying, but I'm saying if you can, I'm not saying you can just say it. Well, your honor, I got a drug problem. No, no. I want to know you've been struggling with it. I want to know your family are telling you this is a real thing. You've tried to go to rehab.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And then I can say, look, you're not making sound decisions, you know, and I'm going to give you a pass on. a little bit of a pass, not a lot. You know, I'm going to take you from nine to eight. You see what I'm saying? Okay. Cause you're going to prison no matter what you're not. This isn't, and I'm going to from nine to five, you know, four, I'm going, I'm going to give you a year off.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Cause you know, you have an issue, but I'm also going to send you to art app. And if you complete art app,

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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i'm gonna give you another year yeah i'm not uncomfortable with that right i'm still he's still a seven yeah but uh yeah i could see that i could i could see having a little bit given a little bit if you could prove to me but if you just get up there and say your lord says oh he's got a drug it was it was drugs your honor you don't understand i'd be like i don't everybody's gonna say that then yeah if it works for you everyone's gonna say it i want to see that's

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, I want to see proof. I want to see this. I want to see he struggled. I want to see he's tried to get over. I want to see his family. You're going to have to give me some letters. And it's not just the letters. I want to see proof. They're like, well, I'm sorry. I never did go to UHAB. I never did try it. I didn't realize. Yeah, well, I'm sorry.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I don't think there's anything that gets you anybody a clean, you know, a clean sweep that they could say to a judge. Yeah. If you've, if you've run something that, that, especially if something that has sophisticated means, you ever know, you ever, yeah, I get it. Like you, you put a lot of thought into this. You ran this for a long time.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You know, there's lots of, there were lots of opportunities to change.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You know, what's funny is I feel like the lawyers that were involved or... I came into contact in my fraud that did things that were clearly not, you know, I feel like it was willful blindness.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Like, you know, you're, you're telling, like, I'm explaining to you that what I'm, what I'm telling you is clearly fraud and you're acting like it's not fraud because you want to charge me and help and you want to get the, you want to get the business. Does that make sense? Like, you should have, you knew this was fraud.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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No, I feel like they always tend to get – I feel like they get – a lot of these guys I felt like they got less time. Now, the one guy I know that really got slammed was a guy that was pretending to be a lawyer. Oh, that's a problem. Yes.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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No, I was thinking he was saying, what's the big deal? They're just off the boat. What are these people? I don't know.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You got him to sign the confession sitting during the test drive in the Chevy.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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The judge went bananas.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It should have been cause they're honestly like on the guidelines, they probably should have been less.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Um, Yeah, so I, didn't I tell you, did I tell you about the guy that I met in prison that was, God, I can never remember his name. Did I tell you about, it was a guy who was pretending to be a lawyer, right? Yeah, you mentioned that you had a guy who pretended to be a lawyer.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, but I'm sure, I must have told you about this guy because when you say Chicago, oh God, I can't believe I can't remember his name. Can you give me a minute? I have to say, because as a matter of fact, I would love it to tell you this because I think you would love to look into this. This is one of the things you should look at and come back and be like, holy shit.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Because I'll tell you what I remember. Mm-hmm. And then if you probably look on Pacer and be like, wow. Oh, matter of fact, never mind. Jim Keegan.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Irishman. James Keegan. I used to play tennis with a Jim Keegan. Different guy.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You would never know with this guy. I'm going to tell you the story. And if I've told it before, you can... I have not heard the story, I promise. Okay. So... I'm in federal prison fighting my case, right? Loose, loosely fighting my case. Really. I'm just kind of writing stories and hoping that Frank will get me out. So this other guy will fight my case.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So I'm in prison and this guy comes on the compound. He just came from doing like four years or five years in the state. Okay. I'm pretty sure once again, once you look into it, if you're like, ah, he did 18 months, whatever he, he had gone to state and, got four or five years, actually, according to him, had fought for three years his case.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Ends up pleading guilty in the state, gets some state time, time served, does another year or two, gets out, comes to federal. So now he's got to do some federal time for whatever reason. The reason he said he was there was this, was that... He was consistently beating the—in Chicago, he was consistently beating state charges for gang members.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He was like, I was representing gang members for different murders. He was a criminal defense attorney. Criminal defense attorney. I had like five or six cases where I won every single case, went to trial. So the gang leaders, they're coming to me. He is— And look, he's admittedly, these guys aren't writing checks. They're giving us cash, giving me cash, whatever.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He said a lot of their families would give them money orders, cat checks. He said at some point they... They end up—the state ends up investigating him, and the feds come in and investigate him. It's because the feds can get you for stuff that the state can't. So they get me for commingling funds. So he names off a bunch of stuff that he says they get him for. We don't know any better.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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But none of this is true. Yeah, none of this is.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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This is what he tells—so he fights it. Well, first he says— I mean, he's got like... First, they try and get him on this. They have to drop that. They have to drop this. They have to drop all these charges.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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What? I know he's in for wire fraud. How do you know that? Is there like some sort of like... You can get a judgment commitment or you can just go on. You can kind of look and see what he's fighting. Sometimes they'll put it on... We have like a version of PACER, a limited version. Or people look it up. But... But there was an article about him.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So people had an article where they got him for like wire fraud. He got him for wire fraud, Jim Key. And guys are looking him up. Because they're like, damn, this guy says he was a fucking big time defense attorney. So they look him up. And I mean, people are coming with like, bro, this is who Jim Keegan is. And they're reading it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And I mean, he represented this gang member, two murders, acquitted. This one, acquitted. This one, not guilty. This one, just boom, boom, boom. He's like Mike Tyson in the 80s. This guy is just, he's amazing. So guys are coming to him saying, bro, He's there looking for legal advice. Take my case. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm only going to be here about three years. He really had less than that. Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I got like three years. I'm just writing it out, bro. I'm just not interested. But people are begging him. And he's like, I don't do federal. I do state.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Right. But these guys, you've got nobody. This is a real lawyer. And so they're arguing. It's like between him and Frank Amadeo, who thinks his troops are going to storm on Washington and he's going to take the country over. It's like, I don't know. I'm going to go with this guy who I can read who's a criminal defense attorney in the state. Yeah. They're like, Fed's the same.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He's like, no, the Fed's is much harder. And keep in mind, Frank Amadeo's there. He's talking to him. Frank Amadeo was a lawyer. Frank Amadeo, absolutely, he's a real lawyer. Anyway, so he's got other lawyers that are there. Nobody's questioning him. He's a lawyer. So finally he says, okay, look, here's the thing. I've read your case.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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this is a, this is a pretty, pretty, pretty, this is a slam dunk. And he's like, here's what I'm going to do. If you can give me, God, I can't believe this. If you here's look, my brother is a lawyer in Orlando. Absolutely true. Yeah. He said, uh, he said, my brother's a lawyer in Orlando. I'm actually going to go work for him when I go to the halfway house. That's my job.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So I will be able to kind of continue your case, and it's not that complicated, and I think I can get you off on blah, blah, blah. He's always in the law library. So he takes, you know, give me, have your family send me $2,500. Send it to my brother. They send it to his brother. Another guy. This is probably he's three to six months away from being out the door. Nobody knows this, though.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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They think he's got three years to go. He's leaving for halfway house soon. Anyway, so they're giving him money, giving him money, giving him money. He's got like some, I've heard different, some of them it's like he ended up getting $20,000, $30,000, $35,000. I've heard up to $40,000, $50,000 is what he got from MMA.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And I know at least 10 because, you know, I don't know everybody he's talking to. I know at least multiple guys that are like, I sent him $2,500, another guy $15,000, another $3,000, another. So his brother got at least 10. Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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um some guys are saying 40 and 50 so bottom line is a few months later he's like holy shit i got more to halfway halfway house i won this whatever i'm leaving i'm going to halfway house i got a year halfway house but i'll be working at my brother-in-law's or at my brothers i'm not gonna forget about you i'm not gonna forget about you and he's and he started filing paperwork or preparing paperwork like i don't think he i don't think he's filed anything yeah but he's preparing drafting

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It's their fault.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And keep in mind, you could have anybody draft up stuff for you. Like Frank has trained a couple hundred guys who are doing legal work at this place. Right. And so he's doing it. So he leaves. Nobody hears from him. Nobody hears from him. Finally, after a few months, guys start. Keep in mind, people have their, you know, you can only have like a year to file your 2255.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And he's promised people all kinds of stuff. So people's deadlines are coming up. They start calling his brothers. The actual attorney in Orlando. his brother's law firm. Now, of course, they're not answering. Then their families start calling. Need to talk to Jim Keegan. He's handling my... We know Jim is your brother. We know he's working there. He's like, my brother's not working here.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He's in a halfway house. And they're like, well, he's doing the legal work for such and such. And so finally, somebody, they get him on the phone. He talks to him. They're like... And the only reason he's even... entertaining talking to these people on the phone, by the way, is because they mailed a check to his law firm.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Your law firm got this check, or you personally got the check and deposited it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He's got an issue. You're doing legal work here. You cashed a check, even if it's in your name. Either way, you've got a problem here, and it's your brother, and he's saying he's not working here. And so what ends up happening, and I may have some of the details wrong, but They start filing with the Florida Bar. Yeah. And it's not one person.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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We're talking a dozen or so people with copies of the canceled checks.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Exactly. So they go to launch an investigation. He starts mailing people their money back. $2,500, $3,000, $1,500. I know one guy who wrote up a whole thing who explained that he had sent him like $1,000, not him $1,000, but had paid Keegan, who was going to work at, talks about commissary, a whole thing. He sent him $1,000. He didn't ever pay this guy anything.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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This guy is just desperately paying. Anybody's making it rain. If a letter shows up, he owes me $500. Here's the money. He's going to lose his law license. Yeah. Okay, so here's the thing. As all this is unfolding, you find out he's not even a lawyer. James Keegan's not an attorney. James Keegan's not a lawyer.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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His father was a high-priced attorney.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And the reason he did know about Frank and everybody is he was very well-versed in the law because he had gone to state prison and was doing state cases. He was a jailhouse lawyer in state prison for... And you learn a lot. You can get out, like after three years of doing legal, criminal legal work, you seem like if anybody who doesn't have more knowledge than you, you're absolutely gonna fool.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Came out, he's talking to Frank. This is where I went to school. They didn't go to the same school, but he knows everything about it. So other lawyers are talking to him. They're all like, I thought he was a fucking lawyer. So, you know, Frank, of course, is like, I was always skeptical. Sure, you or I could pass for an attorney. Absolutely. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was somebody that wasn't an attorney.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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If maybe, if they didn't ask too many questions. So if I give me a little research time. So Pete could absolutely pass for an attorney. He did legal work for guys for 20 something years. Anyway, so here's what happens is the attorney gives all the money back. And you don't hear anything about Keegan, right? But people are checking periodically. Now here's what happened too, by the way.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So... What are we here for today?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So obviously it wasn't commingling of funds. They weren't out to get him. What he had done was he'd gone to work for a company that was like a pallet company or some kind of a company that had something to do with pallets. And he was doing their books. And he robbed them for like $400,000 over the course of a year or two. And he's selling pallets out the back. Civil embezzlement.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Civil embezzlement. He ends up. So while that's happening, he ends up going to state prison. He does a bunch of legal work. And then apparently because of the wire fraud charges or something, he has to go to. So his story made sense. Yeah. He ends up going to federal prison. Had Frank fooled. So he goes to federal prison where he runs this other scam. He gets out.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Once he gets out, somehow or another, he violates once. We know he violated once, went back to jail because they tried to send him back to Coleman. Right. He wouldn't go in the compound. Oh, yeah. So he stays in the shoe. And then I don't know how long he stayed in the shoe.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Oh, yeah. These guys are ready to kill him. Yeah. So some people, if they have like a year to do your 2255- They missed the deadline. Yeah, they're doing time because of him at this point. They don't have any recourse. So he does end up getting out again. He goes back to Chicago. I know he goes back to Chicago because he picks up another case. Here's the case he picks up.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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This is how ballsy this guy is. This is a true con man. I mean, just vicious. And I would love – I'd love to know the real – like I have a version of the story I've pieced together, but I don't know. And if you could get him to really tell the story or if you really could look into it, you'd probably be like, this is insane. Do we know if he's out now? Well, no. He should be back in. Here's why.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He goes to – and there's articles about it. He goes to Chicago. He opens up a law firm. Hmm. I mean, the balls on this guy.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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But he does immigration law.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Vulnerable victims, right?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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We're going to go rent a space next week.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Like the people that are renting the space, they don't say, hey, can I see your law license?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Not that he not that I put it past him print one off the Internet or paying $40, you know, whatever. Variety legal legal law school. Anyway, he so he opens it up and he starts charging people. I forget the amount. I'm going to say $2,500, $2,000. To help them get their green card and get citizenship.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Right. So, yeah. So you're coming in, you're Mexican or Polish or whoever, you're coming in, you're giving him $2,500, $3,000. I'll fill out these forms for you. I've got it. I know a guy. And then in six months or so, He gives you a green card. He's making green cards.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So here's the funny thing. The amount in the paper was around half a million dollars he made. That'd be so many people. Yeah. So this was in... I think he kept it open for either a year to 18 months before the feds come in. Yeah. And they grab him and he goes back to jail. Like, to me, what killed me is... Why did you go 18 months?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You have to be foolish to think that this isn't going to... These people are being asked... They're showing green cards. That's going to catch up. At some point, they're going to say, I can tell you. I paid a guy. I paid him. Here's where he is. And at some point, somebody... If you get enough of those guys, some agent's going to say...

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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you know, I'm going to look into this guy that keeps popping up. Yeah. Keegan. Well, Keegan is a 90 year old retire, an 80 year old who's retired, but his son, somebody puts it together. They grab him. He went back to jail. I want to say he got five or six years for that or something, or maybe he never got, I don't know. I just, in my mind, it was five or six years.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I'm assuming he's still locked up. You could guess for the show. I would love to pull the article on him and give it to you and see what you think. If you could look in, you could probably tell me, because I probably got half that story wrong. Yeah, we'll take a look into it. Or I could, I mean, I could have Pete look at it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I could have somebody look at it because I'd love to know what the real story is. I'd love to get in touch with him, but he's the kind of guy, a true con man is never going to really talk to you about this. Yeah. He was so arrogant though. He was so, I used to. How old do you think he is now? Oh gosh, he's, he's probably in his, he's, He's probably close to 60 or maybe 60.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Old enough to know better. And apparently he's always been a problem. And I got the little bits and pieces from everybody who had talked to his brothers ready to kill him. He should sell the film rights to his life. I would love to. He's got to be amazing. But once again, non-sympathetic character.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Like your brother, here's the thing too. Think about that. Would you have any sympathy for him? Because your brother, you were both raised by the same father. Your brother's a fucking successful lawyer in Orlando and you're running around in and out of prison, ripping people off, pretending to be a lawyer.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You know, in Tennessee, they used to have social security numbers. And this is back in the 90s and 2000s. They actually would have your social security number on your driver's license. It was your DL number in Virginia growing up.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I'm wondering how long the scam can go between before you have to change locations.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I was going to say, or the fact that you're giving these checks to your friends who are all going to roll over the moment, the moment that somebody knocks on their door.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He thought she had anxiety before.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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With the text messages?

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Of course, Kristen. One of my enhancements was a violation of a position of trust because I was a licensed mortgage broker. You knew better.

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What does she get? Well, listen, she went to trial $70,000. She's getting five. She's getting four years. Maybe five. No, she's getting four years. Let's say she's getting four or five years. Oh, he doesn't get any time at all. He's getting probation.

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He could be in trouble in prison. He gets no time and she's getting more than minimal planning.

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Holy shit. Come on. How did he get 32 months?

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He cooperated and she was the linchpin to this whole thing. She was the arrow key to this whole thing.

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I think he should have gotten three years paper or probation. And I think she should have gotten three or four years. Four years. She should have got four years. He should have got paper.

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What were they going to give him if he didn't cooperate?

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Well, he must have had a criminal history. He must have had a criminal history or screwed up something with the cooperation. That's what I think. There's no way he doesn't get probation. If he has no criminal history and he testifies, it's under $100,000. He should have walked. Something went wrong there. I think the criminal history thing is probably right. Yeah, yeah. He's, yeah.

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He's definitely got a high criminal history. This guy's a small time hustler. You ever run into the U.S. Postal Inspection Service in all of your travels? No, but I've met many people that have been arrested by them. They're basically FBI agents.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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We always made fun of those guys. The postman arrested you.

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Does he walk off and say, wow, you just got her to sign the confession?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Well, listen, I had a comment the other day from a guy that said your plastic surgery is not holding up all that well. I thought it was a mean, but that may have been the most weirded thing I've ever heard.

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I almost feel like there's a mental illness going on.

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I promise you, it's not his last time being able to be a lady.

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So the first time when he gave him the note, my first thought was, he's getting three years. But you brandished a weapon. You fired the weapon at the police. It's a problem. He's racking up the decades.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And he's done it before.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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25 years, Matt Cox. Wow. I wonder if 20... Yeah, I would say he would probably have been... I would have thought if we hadn't said... If he didn't have the previous conviction, I would have probably said 25. I would have said through the five years in for the extra. So 25. So I'm off somewhere. So there's some other thing that's... But yeah, that seems reasonable. 25 years seems very reasonable.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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That seems reasonable. What are you doing?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Well, first of all, he was on the right path with the note. If you're going to rob the bank, if you had to say, hey, Matt, what's possibly worth it? It's like robbing a bank with a note or counterfeiting cash. The money gets garbage. No, it is garbage. I've always heard that the average bank robbery is $3,500. That's about right. Yeah, I was going to say $2,800, but it's in that neighborhood.

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Oh, yeah, and things just escalate. You're looking at 10 years right there.

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And then if you do something along the lines, you pull the gun and you tell them, like, hey, get over there, get over there. Oh, my God. It's like kidnapping. Yeah, exactly. You just told this person to move locations. You just kidnapped them. That's kidnapping. You've got so many problems.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So, yeah. All right. You ever been to Benton Harbor, Michigan? I don't think on purpose. Nobody's been to Benton Harbor.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And they kidnapped the guy. They brought him to a separate location. Yeah. Did they harm him? We assume it's just... Threatening him at gunpoint.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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here's a clue okay the brothers stood firm neither cooperated against the other okay they both pled guilty though and they both got the exact same sentence i would say 25 or 25 years like they kidnapped some i'm i don't like there's some stuff like i if it was robbing who you robbed a bank even you pulled like i'd say 10 to 15 but the kidnapping that's so serious and the guns it's that seems so serious it

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I can't imagine unless they had no criminal history. I would say they had no criminal history, maybe 15 or 20. But they have criminal history, 20, 25.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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That doesn't seem fair. It should be more. It should be more. It's kidnapping.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I'm sorry. No. We need to talk about this. I feel like making a phone call. I feel like writing a harshly worded email.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I mean, there's something wrong.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I think if they, they've had to, first of all, they got the same sentence. So they couldn't have, unless they had the same criminal history.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. But they never released that in the court records. So you're saying 15 years. I was saying between 15 and 25. You want credit for the win. I'm happy to give it to you. It's your show. I don't want credit for the win. Because I'm still even the wild card is that. I'm still saying 25 to 30, really. Listen, I don't have any. Anybody comes into my home. Mm-hmm. Kidnap someone.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Hold someone hostage. It's going to be terrifying. Or moves them. Yeah. No fucking sympathy for you.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You might as well. That might as well be a crime against a child.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. He's done. He's not going to. Yeah. Yeah. Got it. And your home should be such a sanctuary that you should feel safe there no matter what.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. Well, you know, there are people that will go and, like, kidnap, like, watch, like, a jewelry store and then go into that, go have a home invasion at 2 in the morning, grab that person and have them bring them back to... I feel like that's just so... I used to play at a high-stakes poker game pretty regularly in Chicago, and we had a guy...

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I wonder what she was thinking. A dozen victims. I wonder what she was thinking. Like, hey, there's a lot of churches around here. I can hit, if I can get all of them for 800,000. But she's not even trying to maintain the Ponzi, or the scam.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I mean, there was an attempted, and I know there was an attempted one. I've told this story about the older guy. Did I tell you? Do you remember that? I don't know if I was on the show for that one, though. There was a, was it?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It was a real relationship. It turns out, much like the Catholic Church, when you have allegations against you, they'll move you to different locations. Okay. And there was a CEO that had had several allegations of harassing inmates.

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And with dude inmates?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So he's harassing them. And he's older too. He was like in his late 50s, early 70s. He was an older CEO. Gay guy or just horsing around? No, gay guy. Okay. And so he showed up. He's a new CEO. And he was an asshole. Yeah. Like you weren't a cool CEO. You were an asshole. And so he shows up. And I had an old cellie named Frank. Frank was in his 60s. He's probably in his 70s now.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He's 64, 65 years old. So Frank's walking by the CO's office one day, and the CO says, hey, can we come in here? And so Frank's grumpy. He walks in. He's like, yeah, what's up? He's like, I've been watching you. He's like, okay. And he says, you work out? And Frank goes, I used to work out a lot. He's like, I don't work out that much anymore, but try and stay in shape. Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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What do you do? I do this. And he has like, you know, first of all, talking to a CEO is not great, a great look.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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But he's just answering the question like this and this and this. Oh, I walk the yard. I try and watch what I eat. Yeah. You're in good shape. How old are you? This old. Oh, okay. He said, yeah. He said, you know, he's, if you're incarcerated and you have sex with another man, he goes, it doesn't make you gay. And Frank looked at him and he goes, yeah, it does. And he said, ah, it does.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And he said, yeah, I'm done with this conversation. He said, okay. He said, turn around and just walked off. He leaves. He comes to where my buddy Pete and I are. Me, Pete, and a guy named Donovan Davis were at a concrete picnic table down in an area we called Stonehenge. So he comes down there. He walks. He's like, hey. He walks up and he goes, listen to this. You know the fucking CEO?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And I'm like, hey, listen to what just happened. And he tells us the story. And he's like, the motherfucker said that? And I was like, holy shit. And he goes, I can't fucking believe that. I said, wait a minute now, Frank. I said, this may be your way out. And he says, and he goes, what? And Frank, and I go, say, I said, you need to think about it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I said, I mean, you give, do a reach around or something like, I mean, and I said, that may be your way out. And on cue, my buddy Pete goes, save the sample. Like that. Right, like Monica Lewinsky. Save the sample. We roar laughing. He goes, you fucking assholes. And he just turns around and walks off. Frankly, it's just grumpy.

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But yeah, after that, we're all like, holy shit, this guy's like a predator. Yeah. And he was. And we found out, like, guys started talking. This is happening a lot. Guys start talking. And the other COs are like, oh, yeah, they moved him around over and over again. He's a real problem. He's been a problem.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So my wife was at Coleman Lowe.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Coleman Camp. Right. Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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when so you know there was a huge i don't know if you know this there was a huge lawsuit at coleman camp they actually turned the camp from a female camp to a male camp okay listen they just closed uh dublin which was a female camp there were so many assaults in dublin they just closed the whole the camp right or low whatever it was anyway there was i think like 10 or 12

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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females female inmates in coleman that in the coleman camp that were having relations with guards and eventually one of them gets together and puts together a whole like as they're getting out puts together a whole crew of them they they get a lawyer they file a lawsuit And they sue Coleman. They sue the federal government, Coleman. And they sue these guards.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. Two years, two years.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And they end up getting like... You could look this up. I want to say it's like $80 million. It's insane. Astronomical. It's outrageous how the amount of money they got. Especially since my wife knows that... Although by law you cannot give consent. Right. She's like, these girls are getting into arguments and fights over... They're basically like, this is my boyfriend. Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And she's like, they want... They want the attention. They want the... And these guards can bring in stuff for them.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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They're bringing in food. Not just like drugs, but like food and stuff like that. So these girls feel like they have a relationship. Like they're targeting these guys.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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One of the guys, by the way, that was listed on... One of the COs that was listed in the lawsuit... Oh, man. His name was on the tip of my tongue. He came to... He drove to the prison... Parked his car. He offed himself in the parking lot of the prison.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. And the thing is, too, out of all those CEOs there, if you had to say who was a decent CEO, I don't know whether the allegations are true or not. He was not a smart guy. This is a guy like a 90 IQ. He was not bright. He had been in some kind of a car accident. He like you had a he had a scar brain injury. So it seemed a little slow, but he was just it seemed like a nice guy.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Okay. We'll get, I said below, but that's fine. Two years or below. Let's go with that. All right. Okay. That's pretty good. I'm good. I'm happy with that. That seems really, and it, it, there's a bunch of people who say it was, it's she deserves more time.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He probably got targeted. And I'm not saying it's right or right. It's right. I mean, no matter what and targeted or not, you're supposed it's a no situation. Right. But.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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The allegations were like, oh, they were basically like the guards were coercing the women or forcing them or forcibly, you know, doing and my wife who actually got picked up during the investigation and brought to and brought to the county jail to be questioned. Okay. was like, I don't know anything. She said, she said, I, she's like, I told him I don't know anything.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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She said, but the truth is, she's like, I know that they were targeting them.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And she said, but you know, she's like, but what the girls were saying wasn't true.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Well, and now she's, she's a felon and everybody knows what she did. It's a small community. Real small.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I would say the moment you say lying to an FBI agent, I think three years. I know that it's like between three to five, depends on how serious it is. I would say between three to five, but I'm going to say one year because when you were folding the paper, I saw the word one. You're looking at my paper here.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It's a, it's a, yeah, I think that's, I think, and she's on probably paper for two years, three years. Yeah. Yeah. I think that, you know, nobody's ever trusting her again with their money. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, not going to be a frequent flyer. Yeah, I'm curious to know. I am curious to know if she, and we can move on after this.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, I think it should be. I think I would have said three years. I mean, you're. I don't think you should. Well, also, by the way, I don't think that in an interrogation of any kind, I don't think that the government or the FBI should have the the right to lie to a suspect. You know what I'm saying? But I think it should be even playing field. Kind of. I do.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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What's the first one? You ever been to Maui? I have been to Maui. Yeah. Do you like it? Yeah, it was, yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You know, but I definitely think that you you when you come in, if you're going to come in and you're going to start lying to me.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I think that in and of itself— I understand that that's not the case here, right?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I understand that they just—we know what you did. That's a lie. That's not true. Oh, I've never talked to her. I've never this. I've never that. Exactly. You're lying. Like, what are you doing? If that's your game plan, then just say, I'm not going to talk to you. I don't have to talk to you. Right. So I would have said, I'm not going to talk to you.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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But apparently lying to an FBI agent is one day in jail. That seems reasonable. Well, unless you're Martha Stewart, right? Yeah, exactly. So that's not... It's because he's a law enforcement and that's... Or, I don't know. Either he's cooperating, which there's no chance for him to cooperate. There's... You know, no criminal history. Like, yeah, it doesn't make sense that he got that little time.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It should be three years. I mean, you want to give him two years and a year. I still think it's three years. I don't think he gets any play at all. Because, first of all, you know better. Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Introduction of contraband. Like, you gave her a cell phone.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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But again, is that a federal crime?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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No, it's not federal, but...

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I don't—well, other than lying to the FBI, yeah, is there a federal— Right, that's what I'm saying. So why did they even come and question him? Because he's a corrupt sheriff. Right, but you have a state—there's still the state law enforcement. Every state has its own kind of version of the FBI. They could have come and—

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He's going to lie to them. They probably already know his history. He's going to blatantly lie. We're going to get him on the lie. It's not a bad plan. Straight in. He goes to jail. And then he still gets, he must be friends with the judge. Got six months home confinement. That's ridiculous. I don't disagree with you. I'm just playing devil's advocate. Yeah, I think.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I'm curious to know, was there really an investment or she just come up with it? It was just straight fucking graph, just straight.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And if you're concerned about his safety, because look, you don't want to send somebody to prison that's going to get killed or beat up. Okay, then you could keep him in the county jail for a year. He gets a year. He still gets a year. Put him in another county jail. But I'm in a federal jail.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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There's options. Yeah. I mean, you got a federal case you can do if you said okay. But he should do jail time for sure.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I'm going to mail him a book I've written called It's Insanity about Frank Amadeo wanting to take over the world.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Did he have any weapons? No. Other than the little flag?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, two years. Two years. Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Isn't it funny? I just think you're like a nut. You didn't kill anyone.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He, uh, um, I mean, but I, I definitely would think you would first, first start with the threatening the life of the president, which to me is super serious. Um,

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I mean, I've listened to his music, yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I mean, he's nuts. I would probably have still taken it. Is he dangerous? I think he is dangerous. Five years? It's not a lot of damage. That's your guess, five years? I mean, if you had said they were including threatening the President of the United States... That was his intent. I understand, but that's not what he pled guilty to. Now, they'll take that into consideration. That's correct.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Now you got me thinking maybe 10 years, because five or 10... I'm not trying to talk you out of it, buddy.

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Five or 10 years.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You're making me think. To me, I thought it was very serious. I was thinking this is very serious.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I want to say it's very—here's what bothers me, is that you could say, you know, if you could take into consideration he's insane, like clearly you're insane. The problem is you are insane, but you got yourself on a plane. You rented a U-Haul. You drove the U-Haul. You were almost like— You had a Nazi flag in your carry-on.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, I mean— Okay, I mean, I would say if I was taking all that into consideration, I'd say—I'd probably have said—

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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10 years but i'm gonna go with five because he didn't plead guilty to that he only pled guilty to he only pled guilty to destruction of government destruction of government property of under six or fifty five thousand dollars that doesn't seem to me like a big charge and i think the judge also knows that at the end of this thing he goes back to india and he's no longer our problem and how much do you want to have the taxpayers paying for his care and feeding he's also 20 years old

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Oh, he's a kid. He's just stupid. He's just stupid. You kind of get a pass if you're stupid. Like, I would say you get a pass if you're, you know, women, children, and unfortunately, retards. Are we allowed to say that?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Stupid people. I think Trump signed an executive order. We're allowed to say it again.

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I'd say five years. Wait a minute, sir.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Eight years. Eight years? What? Eight years. I should have stuck with back to India. No, 10 would have been closer. If, if, if each, if it was, if they taken the, the threatening the wife of the president more seriously, I probably would have said higher. Yeah. Cause I know a guy, I knew a guy that got seven years in the federal system for writing a letter to Bush and

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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But he already had a long criminal history. He was in state prison. And there's no air conditioning. And I tell you this, there's no air conditioning in state prison. And so he was saying how horrible it was. He was complaining to his cellies. And his cellies said, you know what you need to do? You want to be in federal prison. They have air conditioning. And he was like, yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And they said, you need to write a letter to the president. Commit a federal crime. They'll come get you and send you to federal prison. So he wrote a letter saying he was going to He was going to kill President Bush and his daughter. And he's going to kill. Well, you better hope that your service is concurrent. His daughters. And he was going to the dog, which I always thought was like that part.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And as a result of that, a Secret Service came and got him and they charged him. And he went in front of the judge and his lawyers like, listen, this is what happened. He explained about the AC.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Which to me, it's a reasonable argument. That's hot in Florida. And they explained the judge was like, yeah, I get it. I understand what he's trying to do. But he still threatened the president. So the dog was never in danger. I don't think so. And I remember being irritated about being great. He got seven years. They give him seven years, seven years.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And I remember because it's a concurrent or consecutive. Does he know that was the problem? He sent him back and made him finish his state.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Like, don't take legal advice from your cellies. Yeah, they're not going to let you serve your state time in federal prison if your state time is already going running. Anyway, yeah. But I always liked the fact that he threw in the dog. Left his fingerprints on it. You know what the problem with him was? This is a guy that if you talk to him, he couldn't have gotten himself to Washington, D.C.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Like this guy could. Yeah. Matt Cox, who was your hero growing up? Have you ever wondered what happened to the legendary Chuck Norris? I recently saw a video he made and I was shocked. He's in his 80s and still kicking butt and working out and staying active. What's even more shocking is he's stronger, can work out longer, and even has plenty of energy left over for his grandkids.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He did this by just making one change. He says he still feels like he's in his 50s. His wife even started doing this one thing and she's never felt better. She says she feels 10 years younger. Her body looks leaner and she has energy all day. Chuck made a special video that explains everything.

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Make sure you watch it by going to chuckdefense.com slash Matt or by clicking on the link below this video. It'll change the way you think about your health. Once again, that's chuckdefense.com slash Matt. or click on the link in the description box below to watch the video now. You won't believe how simple it is.

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Just remember, the legendary Chuck Norris is a whopping 85 years old, and he has more energy than me. He discovered he could create dramatic changes to his health simply by focusing on three things that sabotage our body as we age. Watch his method by clicking on the link in the description box below, or go to chuckdefense.com slash matt. Does it have to be real? Like, can it be Batman?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Dude, it's your show. It's your hero.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Which Broadway star was your hero since you didn't watch football? I would say it would be Batman or Iron Man.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Probably. You know why I liked both of them? Tell me. They were just rich guys with gadgets. Okay. So I used to think, I could be that guy. If I just got rich and had the gadgets, I could be a superhero. That's fair. I don't like Superman because, like, I have to be born out of a plant. Like, that's not happening. It's a whole other thing.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And I'm not willing to be bitten by a radioactive spider to be Spider-Man. It's asking a lot. It's a lot.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Are you kidding me? I just got finished writing a book about a serial killer.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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On an 18-wheeler and drive it in here.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Tell me first about what, tell me about the guy. Did he actually, he lured the guy somewhere. Did he actually, and he kidnapped him and moved him?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You're going to end with an L. Am I? What is it? It's 45 years. Oh, wow. Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Maybe. 45 years. I think he's got some mental health problems. You think so? Yeah. So I end with a lose. But overall, I had a pretty good.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. We should give you like a two year.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Is he a big fan of, I know CB1 are being a fan of athletics. I mean, he can't watch them. He can't participate in them.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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well the one i was like you know the one where i saw i i saw the one and i was one day i saw one i was like happened you started to fold it over and as you were folding i saw one the word one i thought oh you got one year yeah see but had you had you not been biased by your own attempt to cheat at your own game

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Well, I, I think, I think I didn't know it was a serious crime until you meet multiple people in prison for, and you know, the more I thought about it, the more I was like, Yeah, you can't be, you know what I'm saying? Like, you don't have to talk. Here's the thing. If you said, no, you have to answer questions, but I don't have to talk to you.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You know, that you can say, I want to go talk to my lawyer. But you think you're going to just lie your way out of it? Like, you know, because to me, I know if the FBI shows up and sits down and starts to have a conversation with you, they already know the answers. I don't show up unless I have the answers before if I'm asking a subject a question. Vastly different than state law.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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who are showing up who are typically trying to get people to help them put together the case. The FBI tends to already have the, or federal authorities.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. But yeah, I was going to say, but the locals don't have the resources that the federal government have to put together an entire case. But also what makes me think of is that it's just got to be extremely boring. Like to me, if you said, hey, you can be a detective with the county.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Or you could be an FBI agent and you're going to get paid the same. I'd be like, oh, I'll pick the county.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Because I feel like the FBI, it's a lot of paperwork. It's a lot of putting stuff together.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Well, I understand. But to me, I think that they tend to go out and start questioning people.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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and talk like they're they're looking for somebody to help put the put together the case once they've got that kind of they have those then they go out and try and and charge someone where the fbi does it different the fbi will put together an entire case and we know everything about it now we're going to go have a conversation with you give you an opportunity to talk to us and you say no we're going to indict you now we indict you where it's the to me it's

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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kind of the opposite.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You didn't say right or wrong. I'm saying what would be more, to me, which one would be more exciting? I get to go talk to the guy like, hey, this is what I heard. Boom, boom, what's going on? I get to talk to people. Yeah. And put together a case as opposed to I'm going to order this. I'm going to subpoena the records. I'm going to put together this. I'm going to get this.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I'm going to compile all of this information. I'm going to try and build the case before I even have a conversation. Now, that's the smarter way to do it. I'm not saying it's not the smarter way. Yeah. I'm saying what seems like more fun. Well, yeah, but that's not the goal of law enforcement. Well, I get it. I'm trying to think, like, which one would you rather do?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Well, I'd rather go out and start questioning people. Do you know what happened? Do you know who so-and-so is?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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What else? Okay. That's all I got for you, man. That's it. Maybe, I don't know, I might have to rethink my FBI versus detective, local detective thing here. I'm really thinking about it that way.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, I definitely think that they're, that they don't have the resources that the federal agents have.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Oh, yeah. That whole thing.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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you know i you know i saw you you don't want to throw in there but if you don't have the ability to pay me well i don't waste the guy's gotta eat right hey you guys i appreciate you watching you don't have to lean back you're not Hey, you guys, I appreciate you watching. Do me a favor, hit the subscribe button and the bell so you get notified of videos just like this. Please share the video.

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Also, if you want to follow Tom Simons and you want to want his services or anything else, we're going to leave all of his social media links in the description box. You can go there, click on it, follow him. He's huge on Instagram and TikTok. And he's got other platforms. So check those out. Follow him. Subscribe. Really appreciate you guys watching. Thank you very much. See ya.

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Green. Grass. green grass you know wait i know what do you see it's a k2 it was uh it was um disney he said disney weed disney weed what could you want to say disney green put the whole yeah disney you can you said it a couple times so i'm gonna have to i'm gonna go back disney green disney green disney green

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Did you get tickets?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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They just started texting me.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Oh, definitely. We would definitely have to schedule something then. Just giving you the gist of it, we'll probably take 15, 20 minutes. Basically, I was falsely accused of a first-degree murder by a group that was known to me, even though each party in the group wasn't.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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They coupled me in with a rival gang because I grew up in this territory and I was close to this group of people, even though I wasn't part of that gang. And It's like authorities don't realize that these groups intentionally maliciously use law enforcement in the way the court system is.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Um, and they use that the same way they would retaliation in the streets with the firearms or with anything else they use that. And it was intentional. Um, the people who accused me of this crime admitted they didn't know who the shooter was, um, admitted that I wasn't present during the initial altercation, admitted that it had nothing to do with me for weeks.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And then, um, when the pressure was on, because they were all charged with their own crimes, they were all in cahoots doing other, um, illegal and violent activities, my name came up because I was close to the guy they were directly involved with. We have the same last name. These people who knew of me didn't know me intimately.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Me and this guy have the same last name, which is Smith, even though my family is originally from East Texas and his family is originally from Alabama. Both families, both of our families be located to Tulsa, Oklahoma, where we grew up and some apartments called Comanche Park in North Tulsa. Because of our relationship, people thought we were cousins. We had the same last name.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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The altercation that happened initially led to a shooting 24 hours later. That's how I've gotten drawn in. One person in particular who knew me in the group had falsely accused me of being involved in the initial altercation. That's what got me stop and frisk, got my name ran and got my name put into the case.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Even though 24 hours later when the shooting actually happened, my name wasn't said, no one brought me up because I actually wasn't involved. Two weeks later, my name will be brought up again because my name was ran the night of the initial altercation and the suspect was still at large.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So the guy who they knew was involved in the beef was suspected to be my cousin because we were close and we had the same last name. So people tied us together in this altercation. And the rest is history.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. And it's crazy because I have a I had an alibi defense at the time of trial. So I had multiple people. let these people know exactly where I was, who I was with, when I left there, how I got there, the whole nine. I can prove that I wasn't even in the city limits at the time of the crime. I still can.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Um, even a bigger deal is that seven years later, Arlen Young, the guy who actually committed the crime, the guy who was actually fighting the deceased in the initial altercation, the guy who had the beef with him, admitted to the crime on his deathbed to his family. And I'm still here. We presented this evidence to the courts through, um,

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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post-conviction, uh, the attorneys and private investigators working. And I'm still here. The courts won't hear it. They won't give me the hearing that I need to make a record of these out of court record facts that would, you know, get me exonerated, get my sentence vacated. So that's where I am now. Um, trying to get in court.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I can give you my advocate's number. Her name is Shelly Ware. That may be the best way to go about it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yes, I can have him do that right now.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And I've learned that over time. It's not just your story. People need to know you, too. Know what you're like, what's normal for you. And they don't. You don't get that when you're hearing one another's story. You don't get that when you see a guy who was incarcerated and he's been gone 13 years. You know, you don't get that.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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A job where I'm in here and guards are getting sick. People are getting COVID. Yeah. Like, I don't even really want this fucking job to begin with. Begin with. Right. So I can see that. And of course, it. Even to this day, COVID's gone because everything's okay now. But the guys that I talk to now will tell you, like, bro, it's like a state fucking facility. You know what I'm saying?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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1,800 guys. They found 200.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So they missed another 200.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, there's another two.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You know there's another two.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, at least another 200 that's missing. I remember they had done a suite one time with us when I was there, and they found like four cell phones. Like four. That's big. And that was a big deal.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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They were like, how the hell did four cell phones get in here? Yeah. That would have been a huge success. Yes. 200 cell phones. So I can... You know what I'm saying? So I can understand because it's not like it's unique to police officers. These are COs, but you've got...

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Because they got a nice home.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So he goes, I can't.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He'd rather be locked up.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So now I'm like- It's like a check-in move, right?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Like check into the shoe, you got to take me to the shoe.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So he didn't see this transaction, did he?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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In the old neighborhood.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I forget if it was Eldred's.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He's telling me where his fucking dope was.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Because he knew. He knew you were.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. They knew that there wasn't a sting that they could sell on the street or do whatever they had to do because these guys aren't going to come and arrest us for that. For that. Correct. Right. But they may check us down and take the money.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I haven't seen it. Yeah, they don't do it anymore.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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But now you can just buy an off-the-shelf Bose system that's fucking amazing.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, like the Griselda Blanca, which is to stick it in the fucking... Like, it wasn't even a good smuggling operation. Like, they're taking, like... They're shipping like a Chester drawers where they've gutted it and it's filled with fucking and whatever. And they just ship where now that would never pass. Oh, it's an antique.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, exactly.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It's not that easy to figure out who the wholesalers are anyway. They're doing it off the street. It's not like you, you know what I'm saying? That's several layers removed from the guy that's saying... Here's your ounce, your kilo, your half a kilo, yeah. And you're not trying to go into a drug buy and end up with fucking 100 keys. No. I'll take it all.

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I was going to say, well, how do you get away with that? How do you get rid of that? Now I'm in a bad position.

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I want the deniability like you have.

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The cash doesn't know where it came from. Correct. I got this out of my bank two days ago.

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What are you talking about?

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So they wanted, what, just a police presence so it looked like we're here, like we're trying to do it.

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In one day, I'm only making $300 a week.

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So now you're just trying to see what can I get away with? What can I get away with? When I leave, what can I leave with?

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And that's what happens when you're in the police world.

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The whole thing.

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And today they're packaging it up and selling it to you.

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Yeah, I know multiple guys that had 10 years, 10, 12. Well, I mean, I knew multiple guys that had 30-year sentences. But, I mean, I met guys that had never been arrested that off the rip were getting 10 years mandatory minimum in the Fed. Some of them were getting 12 years. Some of them were getting 15. It's like— Enhanced. They'll get enhanced up, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

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It would just keep going and going. And you're like, this is for marijuana. Yeah. You got 20 years for marijuana. Yeah.

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So- Money and drugs. Right. Whatever you can... Alcohol, whatever. Yeah, yeah.

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So, so what, so with the drug dealers that you're now meeting these guys, are you now like taking, instead of just saying, Hey, shaking them down and taking 200 bucks, are you saying, Hey, give me a grand a week and nobody will bother you.

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That's 30 years ago.

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This is 34 years ago. 8,000 a week is like, that's like asking for 30 grand a week. Well, yeah.

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Why not? You got to have a goal. It was a lofty goal.

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And they were willing to pay it.

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So it worked out. How long does that go on?

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So the fucking cops put the money and the drugs back. Perfect.

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So how did the cops get upstairs anyway?

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And they were probably thrilled and wanted to get out of there as quick as possible.

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All right, thanks, kid. Back in. And they tossed the whole building. Where's your fucking guy during this whole fucking time?

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You get it? He went up there to rob the load himself. He's going to tell his boss they took everything. He gets the fucking bag of shit in his hand. The cops walk in. He's got the shit in his hands. Now he gets arrested for...

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That's not a small arrest. That's a big hit. Yeah, you're going to for a while.

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Well, I'm sure those rookie detectives were probably talked to from what?

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I'm sure they had to be talked to by Internal Affairs. Anybody that was on the scene was questioned.

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Then you're the target.

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You said they were already on to you anyway, kind of.

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Yes, they were.

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And the one thing, how can you know that the kid's going to walk out with a shotgun? Like you did everything.

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You used to be able to buy everything that you want.

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So you're driving a Corvette and you parked in the lieutenant spot.

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So I... So the NYPD doesn't want to look bad, but the DEA doesn't give a fuck about making it look bad. They don't... They want them to look bad. We're so... We're so... We're so... A bum approach. Oh, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. We're so...

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uh crisp and clean and and holier than thou than now that we'll bust caught the cops do you know that right you know they're thieves right you do know that right oh listen i i don't know i can't tell you how many how many guys i've met in the joint told you that they robbed that they robbed yeah well you know what they do is they'll they'll like find the guy with like 12 grand and because in the federal system i don't know about the state system but the federal system

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That if they find drugs and they find cash, they convert the cash to drug weight. Right. To send it to you. Correct. So they'll go to them and they'll say, listen, we found you with a quarter of whatever, a brick or whatever. And they're like, that's a three-year mandatory minimum. We caught you with $12,000. Now, if we turn into $12,000, that becomes a kilo. You're getting 10 years.

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But if we take 10 of it and we put in $2,000, we say we found $2,000 and the quarter, you're still going to stay with that three-year manager. You want to get the three... And you want to get the three and we take the 10 or do you want us to turn in the 10? And the guy's like, take the 10, take the 10, take the 10. And they'll take the fucking 10 and they don't say shit. Nothing.

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And then they come to prison. They're like, yeah, the guy fucking took me for 10 grand. You're like, did you say something? Fuck no. It cost me more. It was seven extra years. He did me a favor. He did me a favor. What a good guy. Right. Exactly. And that's not like one. It's not like I heard that from one guy. I've heard that from a dozen different. And most of the time they were like Mexicans.

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Yeah. Yeah. Um, You know, because they're dealing in significant amounts of drugs. And, you know, a lot of times they're illegal anyway.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But the point is, and you don't hear it from like, it's not a common thing. It's like in this prison you hear it.

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In the lockup you'll hear it. And you meet these guys.

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I wonder about the body cams and stuff. How much is that curving that type of... Yeah, I would say significantly.

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It doesn't stop a lot of these guys. A lot of these guys who will plant evidence. Like remember the guy- I saw something like that. He's got it in his hand and he's like, he's looking and the body cam's right there and he drops it. But the problem is you can see it.

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He didn't realize. You saw it in his hand. Oh yeah, you see it in his hand. And then he's like, hey, I got something over here. Yeah, I saw that video. Oh, it's like, boy, you got fucking- Could you imagine? How stupid? What a fucking idiot. First of all, not only is that stupid, who would do that? Right. Who does that? Yeah, why are you planting evidence on this guy?

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For what? You know what's funny is... I never did that.

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I had a comment. It's a risk you understand you're going to get caught if I get caught.

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We're that far into the podcast where you're good now.

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They're not clicking off if they've listened this far.

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Yeah, I always think about that guy that was, whatever I think of those accusations, I always think about that kid. He had gotten a scholarship to play for whatever. Lacrosse? No, it was a university. It was a university, a black kid. And this girl accused him of raping her in high school. So he had gotten a scholarship. He'd signed. He's ready to go.

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It's a few months before they graduate, whatever. And she accuses him of raping her on the school grounds. Now he denies it. Of course he gets arrested. He denies it. He actually goes to trial and he loses. Of course he loses a scholarship. He goes to jail for like 10 years. So he gets out and he gets like 15 years or something, but he gets out after 10, you know, whatever it was a state thing.

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So he gets out the girl. So now he's, he's 28 years old, 29 years old. So the girl ends up contacting him.

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on Facebook like he couldn't believe it it was like a friend of a friend she contacts him he couldn't believe it and he's like what do you want she's like well I just wanted to see how you're doing I heard you got out and he's like I'm doing fine so they start talking oh man oh he ends up she ends up telling him

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that she admits that she did that because she had watched the news and there was a girl who had accused a guy of raping her. that they were classmates and sued the school. And it got thrown out because they said, had it happened, you could sue the school, but it had to have happened on school grounds. The fact is, you guys are outside school grounds. It has nothing to do with the school.

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You just knew each other from school. So she said, I knew that if I had to accuse you on saying it happened on school grounds, then I could say they should have provided security, there should have been a camera, whatever. She's like, so I knew that and that's why I did it. And she's like, and we got like $2 million for it. And he's like, I went to jail for 10 years.

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He was smart enough to keep his composure. Yeah. And now, by the way, she had seen him, and she's like, plus, I'd always liked you. You were hot. You were good-looking. So he sets up a camera, invites her over, and on camera, he sparks up a conversation. She's like, what's wrong with you? And he's like, well, I'm still thinking about what you told me the other day. I mean, it's kind of fucked up.

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She's like, what do you want me to say? So she goes over it again. He sparks the conversation. Of course, now he's got the video. He goes... He goes, they go back to court. They get it. He ends up getting his record expunged. He ends up getting a, like they let him try out for some college team or some, not a college team, but I think it was either a college team or for like a professional.

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They like, hey, they heard the story. We're going to let you do, I don't know what happened to it.

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They never charged, like, oh, well, statute of limitations is up. Statute of limitations. I don't give a fuck.

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How about a life sentence? How would you like to go to prison as a rapist?

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In a state prison. Like, that dude went through hell in prison. Yeah. I'd have never fucking made it in a state prison for something like that. No, no. And, you know, luckily, he's a six-foot-tall guy that plays, you know, plays college football. Athletic, strong, powerful. Right. He could take care of himself.

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But God knows what he had to go through. But yeah, so whenever I think about those things, I think, you know, what do you... And that happens. Every once in a while, you'll find out something like this. So for every one you find out there's a camera, there's got to be a thousand that there was no camera.

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I mean, it's just... Just say it. Or the cops setting somebody up.

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But eventually that got overturned. They found out she was lying. It took three years, though, for their lives. And I remember one of the kids, by the way, one of the kids was talking with her. They asked the kid, they said, well, how do you feel now that your case has been overturned? You've been vindicated. He said, listen— No matter what I do the rest of my life.

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He said, when I die, my obituary is going to say that I was one of the lacrosse players that was accused of. Nobody will even remember that three years later I was acquitted. Acquitted, not guilty. So he's like, it won't matter what I do for the rest of my life. That will always be there. He's like, so how do I feel? He's like, I don't feel good about it at all.

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Oh, yeah, yeah. You mean he's a... First Amendment.

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What did he say? What did he say when the cops busted his one operation? What did he say to you? He was like, hey, thanks for trying.

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I mean, that's Michael Franchise's father.

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Right, what a small world, huh?

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It was a sweatshop. A bunch of poor people working for poor wages.

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He knows you're coming, right?

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It was insane. So how does how does it end up? How do they end up busting you?

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Right. I'm the kingpin, though, because I gave him the cocaine. That sounds like my wife's case. Like 60 people got arrested. She knows like five of them.

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Oh, okay. Is he trying to get disability too?

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Not with a service revolver, right? Like a second.

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You got to drop that in a hole.

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So he's buying from somebody else. But he's been buying from somebody else for whatever, six months, a year. And he's been buying. And then one day it gets to be super expensive. And he asks you, hey, do you have anything? Yeah, yeah, I'll get you something. You bring him a brick. Right. That's it. Now you're the guy who's applying the whole time.

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How bad is it?

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How about I drive? No, we'll take you. Why don't I drive?

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I got my car here.

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Well, they grab, they find the that was in your pocket.

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So what happened? I mean, what do you, I mean, you, well, you don't get out on bond.

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But he's already working for him.

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So he sets you up on a, on a, um,

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. So that I would basically get life. That's what he was doing. Well, so, and that setup was they wanted you to go pick up somebody that owed a drug dealer money.

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Yeah. Was the drug dealer in on it?

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Remember the guy with the beard on the plane? Six years later, he's back in my life, setting that up. He probably was never actually out of your life. Yes.

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So they grab you... So the next time they grab you, you and Kenny are supposed to be going to pick up somebody.

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And they grab you then?

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That makes us wrong.

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He's wearing a white all the time. Yeah, yeah, of course. He knows what's going on. Yeah, I go, they're here. They're fucking cops everywhere.

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There's no furniture in the house. So I go, where's your furniture? He goes, well, you know I'm selling the house.

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It's the exact opposite of any real estate agent would tell you.

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And that's Kenny's wife?

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Right. Well, that's what they do, though. Yeah, I mean, but... It's an intimidation.

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We just had an integrity conversation at the roll call.

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What about them?

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So then the rest is, you know, I cut the best deal I could.

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And this was a commission that was put together to look into police corruption.

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How did that benefit you? Did you still get 12 years?

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What does that end up? How much time do you end up getting? 14 years. I mean, how much time do you end up doing?

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that's about the same amount of time I did. Yeah, you know. I got maybe about an extra month or two, you know, when it all comes down to it.

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It's funny, whenever someone will tell me like, they're like, yeah, man, I got 10 years. I'm always like, fuck, 10 years. And then I think to myself, well, what are you talking about, bro? You did like a fuck, almost 13 years.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It always sounds like, Jesus, seven years.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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That's crazy. Yeah. How many did I do? Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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really i held my mud that's it you know you know federal prison it can be it can be any way you want it to be yeah yeah i was gonna say most of the guys that make it hard make it hard on themselves yeah but you joined a gang and you were stabbing yeah you were part of it what did you think was gonna happen you were all part of the game i fucking ended up in a pen you know you got yourself you worked your way up yeah um yeah yeah so i did my time and

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I want to say there's hustlers in there.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It's like hustlers, gamblers, and con men.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And, um, but this isn't a pot, like this isn't a podcast.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He's got the option on it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Was that every 18 months? Do they re-option it?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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What is it doing now? Now we're doing six and six.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I often remind it was nine months. Yeah. Because usually they try to get you 18, 18. That's industry standard.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, a cop in the 80s. And you would have been, you know, you need a young up-and-coming actor. It's not like, if Leonardo DiCaprio can play Jordan Belfort, you know, anybody can play you as long as they can actually act and play you.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Well, they're not going to get the budget unless they have the star. You're not getting a fucking...

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, why? Because they have to shoot it all in New York?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Oh, they have to go back and put all the old cars. They've got to find 1970s and 80s cars.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Have you read the new script?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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No. Boy, they're afraid you'll be like, ah, that's not right. You made me look like a prick.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Which is funny because I wouldn't be that. I don't give a fuck. I know what I fucking did. I understand that you have a scene here. a scene here and a scene here and you have to combine those and some things aren't going to make, you know, you're basically trying to take what's probably 10 or 20 hours worth of screen time and jamming it into two and a half hours.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Two hours, whatever. Because people, you know, because here's what I, what my understanding is, by the way, is that Is that, you know, where you and I grew up, it was an hour and a half was what a movie is. Now they're two and a half hours. So because audiences are now programmed because of, like, binging Netflix, they're used to going and spending two and a half hours.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Like, Dune's fucking two and a half, three hours. Like, all these movies are. I'm not saying there's not still hour and a half movies, but they're like comedy. But, like, your movie, like, think about it. Wolf of Wall Street's what? Almost three hours? Or is it three hours?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, it's long. It's not an hour and a half.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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But but I mean, look, look at your like, that's not you can't do that movie. And I mean, you'd probably do it. Hollywood could do probably anything. But yeah, still, you need at least you need two hours.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Because you're going to leave so much on the cutting room floor, it's a waste.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So we were talking about the, we were talking about before we started here, where we were talking about being filmed and people don't realize like they'll do an interview with me or you, that's going to be, it's going to be 42 minutes, right? 45 minutes, 44 minutes, roughly. It's not going to be an hour because they need 15 minutes of commercials, 15 to 20 minutes of commercials.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So they'll interview you for three hours.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And then they take a break a couple of times. They feed you lunch. They think, you know, but what they're doing is they're going through and they're taking scenes and then they come back and they go, we're going to give you some connection lines or whatever they call it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yes. And then, yes.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You say, my name is Mike on camera. Right. Yeah. Say, say, you know, and then what happened and then what happened and then what happened like over and over. And then you'll say, say, you know, you know, ultimately what happened was finally, right. And then can you say, you know, that's when they arrest me.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So they take all these scenes that were five minutes of 10 minutes of conversation and they condense them into one or two lines as connection pieces. And so you're like, they interviewed me. So you watch these things. Like I watched what they did, uh, my true crime story on me.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And I watched it and you know, it's horrible. Yeah. It's horrible. You're like, oh, my God. First of all, they put makeup on me. I looked like a clown. They put me in clothes that I'd never wear. People were watching it going, you would never.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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which i looked very hip yeah right i'm not hip i'm not it's not you that's not who you are you know so so anyway i look hip i'm not him yeah um anyway so they're doing all this stuff and you know but you go to it and you're like it's funny because i'll look at it i'm disgusted and yet somebody else would be like bro it's great great you're like i'm in the car i'm in the car driving they're doing a scene with me list about three weeks ago and they're in the back with the

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Okay. Why not, right? What's the premise of the show?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You want to hear something funny? Go ahead. I interviewed for that.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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that show that you're describing right now.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I was, I did a, you know, did they do the, they did the thing where it was a zoom meeting and then you had another meeting and you had it right. Okay. So probably a year and a half ago, they contacted me, they contacted me, They contacted me, and while we were talking, it was going to be me and another guy, like an FBI agent.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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We were going to be investigating things like Bigfoot, the Bermuda Triangle, the existence of whatever. Spirits. Yeah. And so when they pitched me the whole thing, I was like, I don't know. I've had a lot of these, by the way. I'm sure you have, too. First, you get the email, then you get the phone call, and then you get the Zoom meeting, and then you get the second Zoom meeting.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So I did the whole thing. And I was like, do you guys have anybody for the FBI agent yet? And they were like, no. I said, well, let me give you two guys. So I gave them Jim DiIorio, and I gave them Tom Simons. Which, actually, I think both of them are... I mean, they're both retired FBI. And I think they're also both licensed investigators. Tom Simons is definitely one in Florida.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So he pitched it. So they did the same thing with me. But while they were doing it, I went, I said, yeah, I don't understand the concept here. And they were like, well, you would be investigating. We'll actually take you places and you'll be going around. And I went. Yeah, but I'm a fraudster. Because it wasn't until that meeting that they explained what it was because there was no name yet.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And I went, I thought you guys were going to talk about, like, me and this guy going and investigating, like, the death of Jimmy Hoffa.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Or things that are crime-related. Right. Because then it makes sense. Like, hey, I can tell you from the criminal perspective what's going on. He can tell you from an investigative side. Investigative side, right. I said, but, bro, I said, I don't know if there's aliens or not. And they were like, well, I know, but we're going to make believe, you know?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And they were like, like same thing with Bigfoot. And they mentioned Bigfoot several, they were like, and they kept going back to Bigfoot. And they were like, and they said, you know, like you would go and you talk to people about Bigfoot and this and that. I was like, I said, I, I said, I mean, look, I'll do whatever. Like if the money is right, I'll do it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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If you pay me, I'm interested. I said, I'll do it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And I said, so let me know. And I said, but that seems a little bit, I would think you would have done this. And they were like, yeah, well, that's not what we're going for. I was like, okay, whatever. Well, anyway, here's time. So I gave him Tom's name and Jim's name. And then they actually interviewed them. And they came back later and they were like, hey, look, I was interviewed.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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They loved me, blah, blah, blah. They said they're going to get back in touch with me. Eventually, I think they told Tom they weren't interested. I don't know what happened with Jim. obviously they didn't take Jim or you'd be like, oh, Jim's my host. So obviously they talked to you and they went with you.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Are you sure? Yep. How do you know? Because we already have the footage shot for this whole thing. Yeah, but this was like a year ago. This is... When I talked to them.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Right. Okay. So, so you're saying your buddy came to you.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I'm telling you, there's another people out there that are talking about the same thing.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. I just, I was just like, I don't understand how you guys. We have all the footage done and everything. We don't have. It's not glued. So you're trying to put together in a sizzle reel. Is that what you're trying to do?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Oh, you already have a sizzle.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I thought, I thought, bro, these people contacted me because that happens a lot.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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We all get calls for that kind of stuff. We're all on the like, this is only so many.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Exactly. Yeah. You know, another one that happened was, uh, So good cop, bad cop. I started the podcast. Make sure we get that in.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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No, we don't do that because Colby hasn't signed up to put us in the ranking yet. So we're not even in the ranking.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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The ranking only goes up to top 200 is what Julian said.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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We should be in the top 200. Did you not sign in? I mean, I thought they said you have to like put yourself... No? I don't know.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, but I want to be in... I don't care about the regular... You want to be in the top 1%. No, I... Obviously, but... No, I mean, like, the true crime one. Like, they actually have true... Because, you know, Danny... Danny, yeah. And Julian. Have you ever talked to Julian Doherty? Julian Doherty, he's... Oh, bro, I gotta... He's in fucking New Jersey. No, he's in Hoboken.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Is he? I don't know him. How do you not know him? Well, I'll give you his information.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Anyway, he's got a huge podcast.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He's very good friends with Danny, but he and Danny fucking sit me like they have the ranking and they're like, Danny's like, whatever, like 20th and Julian's like 42nd or something. And I'm like, And they're sending it to me and I'm like, they're taunting me. I'm like, where are we? Where are we? We're not even on the fucking ranking. I'm like, that's some bullshit.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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We should at least be on the true crime. There should be a segment of true crime. Absolutely, you guys. I should be in there. How long have you been doing this now? Eight years? Seven years? Stop.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Four years. Four years?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I'd say throw eight years in there. Feels like it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I haven't been out of prison fucking but five. That's it?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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109 in Sweden true crime. Are you up for probation?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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109 in Sweden true crime. Where 109? 174 in Brazil true crime.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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uh 73 in russia true crime what are we in what that's us canada and america it just says out oh that's some bullshit yeah that's because i dm julian like a few weeks ago because i saw he posted i was like i was like how do you find this like how much how high does it go and he dm me saying it goes up to 200 so we're not in the top 200 of true crime podcasts for the u.s and canada

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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That's our main 95%, or probably 92% or something, of our base is in the U.S. and Canada.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I mean, it's probably 20-year-old, 55-year-old, 60-year-old. 80% of it, we're between 25 and 55.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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That's 80% of our people come from there. Probably 78, whatever. You know how it goes in the group. They had me, we're in the 45 to 55.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I don't know why.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Maybe because I'm old? Well, I mean, I'm old, too. I mean, I'm 55. You're only, what, nine years?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So I'm not even. Yeah, you're not even. Not even. Yeah, I was going to say... Yeah, you just got to keep... Who are you interviewing on the podcast?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I'm going to fucking show myself. Yeah, sure. I was going to say, if he wants to call me and get any phone numbers or anything, because it can be a mother... Like, when you're starting... Oh, I know. Listen, I'm begging people. When I first started, I'm begging people. Like, if I didn't... Luckily, Zach...

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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was close by we could get him to come once a month yeah and we were only doing one one one week one a week and we're cutting it up and just stretching it yeah and so i'm calling in friends and friends and friends like you pretty much if you if you'd had a parking ticket like i was ready to talk to you for two hours like let's talk about that you're funny but that is that's funny for and you're not very comedical but that's funny

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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but you got a pocket ticket i'll talk to you but but now you know now you can be more selective well you have an establishment now and you and you well now the people reach out to us and what's great is now people are like where it used to be we switched to doing a lot of stream yards because guys are like yeah i want to i'll be on the i'll it's not like i want to be on it's like i'll be on the podcast right right like they're doing you a favor right right they're like

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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but you have to pay to fly me out paid and it's like okay i can't do that i can't do that i can't afford it yeah i can't do that then we started doing stream yards you know i'm sorry remote podcasts okay which people hate yeah and so we started doing those but then you know once you get big enough you get enough subs and your your average video is getting enough views right then people start calling you right and you're like okay well you understand that i can't afford to fly you right they're like no i'll fly yeah right i'll put myself in a hotel right like flying from alaska washington alaska what you

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Is he really handing them out, though? He's selling it? So...

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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california yeah i think i flew from alaska the other day alaska and yeah yeah so now we got a we got a form that they have to fill out send a video and to submit right right you want to make sure they look good on camera too yeah yeah we've had some issues bro yeah we've had some issues we're literally low i mean like i did a a thing i like the guy's got like one tooth oh and and even though he sounded credible the whole time he's talking i'm thinking i

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I can't, this is a, I can't put you on.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You gotta be somewhat appealing. Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. So we put him on Spotify.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. Yeah. Spotify and Patreon, but yeah, mostly Spotify. But yeah, we'll have them send like a minute submission. And now we have it. We just set it up where if someone messages Matt on Instagram asking about coming on the show, it automatically sends them the form like here, fill this out.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. I don't do any of that.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. It looks slick. It's a, I do have a question. I thought about this about a year ago. From the New York Post, the headline is, New York Police Department bans infamous corrupt ex-cop, or infamous corrupt ex-cop Michael Dowd after visit to police headquarters.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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What's the story behind that? I remember there was a picture of you in the police station. You just went in there and took a selfie or something, right? Why do they have a problem with that?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You know, that's just the way it is in New York. And they just had nothing good to say. Nothing good to say. Did they ever reach out?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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yeah i remember they printed an art there were several articles every time they'd ever printed an article on me they were like cox was was um what do they call it um on we were unable to get in contact with with unavailable unavailable for comment right i was in prison you just wrote an article that i'm in prison you know how to get in contact he's unavailable yeah write me a fucking letter yeah right it took you a week to write the article you'd written me a letter i'd have gotten back to

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, at least give me a chance. I'm like, well, I don't, you know, I'm looking at the paper like, I don't know when they reached out.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Every time I ever talk to anybody when they're like, oh, they're going to do a documentary, they call me, it's like... Then you need to participate. Absolutely. Now, are they going to cut it up? Maybe they'll cut it up. Maybe they'll try and make you look bad, but at least you can, you can have some input. Yeah. You know, you can put a human touch to it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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If you're not, they're going to fuck you. Right. If not, they're going to, they're going to, it'll be really bad. It'll be really bad. It's all the bad. Yeah. Nothing good will come out.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It's nothing but cops talking about you.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, he flew out there.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, I did his, like, six months ago, did his podcast.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Well, you could reach out to him. No, no. No? Why? Why would I? I don't need to reach out. He says no. It's fine. Oh, he's not going to say no to me.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Well, they asked me, so... No, I know. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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What did your video pull into, though? Wasn't it?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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How long was it? An hour. An hour and six minutes. Conservatively, $50,000? I would say conservatively 25. Yeah, 25. That's conservative.

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But the thing is, it also depends on the watch time. The longest watch time. Of all of them. Did it get limited?

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Eventually. Yeah, so our first interview with you did eventually get limited too, but it was two years after the fact. Really? Looking bad? Yeah.

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They just sometimes, they just get sticky.

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There's a couple words that I'm going to mute just because of that. Yes, yes. Actually, if you sat down and told your whole story, how long do you think it would take? Like all the good details.

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At least four good hours.

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Those are the kind, I was gonna say, my run was like 10 years also. And I went on Lex Friedman and it was, we talked for seven and a half hours. He trimmed it down to six and a half hours. And it was the same kind of thing. There's so many little silly stories like that.

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Like me saying, I got so many tickets one time and a guy's, I was, I stole a guy's ID, identity, got a driver's license in his name, driving a car in his name. I got so many tickets in his name. I had to go to fucking traffic school with him to keep from losing his license. But that's the same story with the guy with the bucket of chicken. It's those little times. And it's not one.

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That story is this big. There's tons of them. That story is this big. That one little story is this big because it starts with a fire.

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Yeah. And 28 people. Right. But I'm saying you've got, you've got what? 50, 100, tiny little baby stories like that.

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The day before my wedding. Did you have a place that you've written it all down? A book? Yeah, somewhere.

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Yeah. It's amazing. Hey, you guys, I appreciate you watching. Do me a favor. Go into the description box. We're going to leave all of Mike's links. We're going to leave the link to his channel. His channel is called Good Cop, Bad Cop. It's a YouTube channel. He interviews all kinds of people. Click on the link. Go there. Subscribe. He's got a bunch of great stuff on the channel.

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It's building slowly, but he needs the subscribers. Really appreciate you doing that. Also, do me a favor and consider joining my Patreon. It helps Colby and I make these videos. It's $10 a month. We put Patreon exclusive. All the dirty words that Mike said that we had to cut out of here.

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If you're offended by the fact that we had to censor this video because of his horrible language, you can watch the unabridged, no, uncensored, uncensored version of Mike being Mike on Patreon. It's only $10 a month and it really does help us.

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You don't know if they saw you or not? They had to see us. OK.

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So that's how it began. I was going to say, it's a cult. So, you know, Coleman, right? The prison. Yeah. When COVID came in. Right. It's funny because, you know, I have buddies that are there that I talked to and they were like, after COVID, they were like, bro, you can't fucking believe what this place is like now. And I was like, what do you mean? They said, so here's what happened.

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COVID came in and so many guys were getting, guards are getting sick.

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Because of course they bring in an inmate. Inmates are spreading it everywhere.

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And so the guards are getting sick, too. So they're literally this guard dies. This guard dies. So if you've been working 20 years and you can retire, these guys immediately start taking retirement or quitting. And these are guys that are making they've been there 20 years. They're making 80,000 a year. So they literally they.

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So he said, like, I'm telling you, he said seven or 70 percent of the guards just within a month and a half, two months retired. quit and retired. They then had to hire new guards.

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New guards are being hired at like 35.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It's actually like 34th and change. So they hire them.

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So they hire these guys. So they're not making enough money.

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They also don't know

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all the things that inmates do right they're not they have no clue they are they're not seasoned and savvy enough to know that this guy's doing this how things operate probably making wine he's probably hiding it up here they don't know any of that have no idea wow at one point wow that's a fucking free-for-all at one point my buddy said listen let me put it this way he said the guy on the on the the guy in the prison right now that in the low he said with the most seniority has been here two years

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And he's the old Jack.

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And so he was like, these guys haven't got a fucking clue. He's a man. The cops are bringing. So now the cops are making $35,000 a year.

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They're bringing in cell phones, drugs, weapons. And I mean in droves. Because what are they going to do? I'm going to lose a job making $35,000 a year? Right. Fuck. I don't give a fuck.

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Had to be. Probably because I know I started learning about YouTube during the pandemic, during the lockdown. And I know you did it for... And I met you probably eight months to a year into it.

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Is there a vetting process for the girls? You know how we're talking off camera?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, you know, they- We just had a podcast this morning before you came.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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We have somebody on the schedule tomorrow and he's- He just hasn't responded at all.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I already canceled it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Do you vacation? Do you like take a break? Hey, bro, I'm not filming this week.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, because you're posting so much.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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We ramped it up, and it started doing better, and we just haven't ramped it back down. We just never ramped it back down.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, we got more shots to hit the bullseye. Yeah, dude. Sometimes an interview we don't think is going to go viral gets 500,000 views. We did one the other day, Scott.

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That's a clip. And then it's... Yeah, and then it's... That's why I'm making sure I'm succinct in each clip, you guys. Yeah, it stockpiles, too. Like, there's... I mean, okay, you can have 52 episodes in a year, or now we have 400. You do that for three years. And it's like, we have viral clips on all these videos that we used to not clip that we're going back. Let's pull these clips. Yeah, yeah.

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Like, you know what I mean? You hit the algo more and more, like, you're just going to grow. Do you think anything's going to come of the government files, like JFK files, Epstein files? Do you think anything comes of that?

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Do you think you're going to declassify? Is there going to be any significant information that comes out with all this declassification?

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A lot of content for you to be knowledgeable in all the situations. Are you just educating yourself, consuming it all yourself, or do you have someone helping you curate, hey, this is what's going on?

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when Trump meets with these guys like Putin or Kim Jong-un, like, do you think that's overall good for the country? Or, like, do you have any thoughts on that? Yeah. Where are you getting these questions? You know, I'm just scrolling, looking at YouTube thumbnails.

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what are your thoughts on this girl that what is it she slept with a thousand people in 24 hours oh yeah Lily Phillips man that is a would y'all consider having her on the show she's been on before oh she has she came on like before she blew up with that stuff but I mean that's just that is so that right there is like the final form of feminism

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Okay, I didn't know that.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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They were on your show before they kind of blew up, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Did your show... I think I've heard people say, like, Fresh and Fit blew up Tate. Obviously that and other clips. Oh, shit, yeah. No, I mean... So you're familiar. Like...

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How did you guys come across them? Were they... Were they like full, like, were they full go at that point? Like as far as what their message when you first met them?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, women love true crime. It's 80% male, 19.7% female, 0.4% other. It's what now? 80-20. 80-20? That's great.

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Yeah, well, I saw that – remember that the lady who commented – the lady commented like something about – some negative comment about you on Margot – not Margot Robbie, Nadine's episode? Right. And then you're like, wow. Like you said, like, wow, that's just mean. And then she came back.

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Yeah, she's like, oh, yeah, she came back. She's like, I'm sorry. Do you ever – yeah, go ahead.

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Um, this is just a reverse of the question I asked before. Have you ever had any girls change your mind on any stance, any issues that you had like a pretty firm opinion on?

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That's like physically stink.

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This is a more selfish question for us, but Twitter, you don't have to say numbers, but do you make, are you monetized on Twitter?

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I'm demonetized and they took my badge away.

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To piggyback on a similar situation, there was a picture of 50 Cent holding, what, text from Drake of a list of his ops? Oh, that I was on there? Yeah. So what's the story behind that?

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Do you think that ever reverses for the majority of men? What reverses? That the majority of men will be more masculine over time or more feminine over time?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I'm literally writing favorite serial killer.

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Did you ever see the foster mother again? No. Never saw her?

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Right.

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So this is something like this is, was already something he was doing when they met. Yeah. She just didn't have any idea.

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Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Is that where you actually live at the school?

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Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, there's a school here in Florida. like a juvie hall where, you know, you stay in the juvenile hall. And this was back in the, I want to say it was in 1930s, 40s, and 50s. And they found a couple hundred bodies of children that were in the school. Because what they would say is, you know, like, Back then, you know, you're a poor family. Your kid gets in trouble.

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He gets, you know, whatever, a couple of years in the juvie, wherever it is, you know, the juvie hall. I forget the name of it, where it is down here. And if they showed up six months later or a month later or even two years later to go find out where their kid was or visit or something, they just say, oh, he ran away. Oh, my God. And nobody and it was a bad kid anyway.

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He was already committing crimes. And this is back in the 30s or 40s or 50s. I forget what the name of it is. It's a big deal down here. And so I like I hate to even say that, you know, the when it was, because I know everybody's going to be telling me in the comments section screaming like it was 1978. Yeah, yeah.

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there there's like hundreds of bodies in town and you know they just you know these are and there's a you know sadistic guards and you know raping the children or beating them the kids were

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get in trouble and they just beat them to death the kid didn't end up dying they just bury the body and who's going to believe them there's a yeah they can't go on and who's going to believe the guard and the warden there and the or you know or the kid who or a couple of kids that are saying no he they beat him to death well you're just a bad kid no he's gonna yeah exactly yeah or i would those kids say much at all they're they're locked up you'll be next yeah exactly yeah so fear

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Yeah, yeah, these are just, okay, just Aboriginal, I'm sorry, Aboriginal, just Native kids.

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Yeah, Indigenous that ended up in this.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Well, he married her, though. I mean, he must have had some affection for her.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So it's almost the same thing, except they're not criminal.

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they used to do that to the indians um in in the u.s well yeah the indians were indians natives indian i'm saying i'm saying in the u.s i knew there were schools that they would send them to that's exactly what's going on up here or what was going on up here so the same thing the residential schools i i think there was one in pennsylvania where they went and they put a bunch of uh

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Right.

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Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I was like, what?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Okay.

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Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Right. I understand.

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Right.

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Right.

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Right.

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Right.

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Right.

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Did you ever ask them why they were there? Did you ever say, you're just going along with it? Or is it just a known? I knew I was fucked. No, I knew you knew. But I didn't know if you were like, hey, what's going on? This is crazy. Why are you talking to me?

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But what was the girl's name? Your best friend? Janice. Janice? Janice. Oh, with a K? Janice? With a T. Oh, Janice. Janice. Okay. Yeah. So when you gave him the story, was it Janice killed him? Beat him to death. I was there. I saw the whole thing. Never seen anything like it. She's super strong for 120 pounds.

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Insane. Where were you back then, man? And the weirdest thing is she was wearing my shoes, which was weird because she doesn't wear my shoes. I have a big shoe. Oh, that would have been good. That would have been funny. Didn't work out that way. No.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, it was pretty cool. You could have done with your pinky.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And I was like... What was the story you gave him?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So I said, okay. In the press? Was there, were there like, was this in the press? You said there was in the news, but I mean, they arrested you. Were the paper, was the newspaper following the case? Yeah. Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Oh, I'm sure the judge had read the newspaper. They read the paper. You know, they know.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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But I know for sure the judge knew.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So, but yeah, so I ended up getting six years for that. And how much time do you do on six years in Canada?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Okay.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Do you also get gain time? No. No, no good time. You can't earn good time though.

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Yeah, because I think you were minimum, right? I was in medium, and then I was in a low, and then they have camps. So camps and a lows are basically minimum. Yeah, they call it a farm. Yeah, they call it the farm out here. There's like no fence? Yeah, no fence. Yeah, it's like a camp.

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It's the irony. Exactly. So, can I ask, where's your father during all this? Have you heard from him at all? Obviously, out of prison.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Okay.

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Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, you reached out to him, bro.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, he clearly had some issues.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. Well, I mean, lots of people go through abuse and they don't end up do, they don't end up becoming that, that month, you know, but some do, but yeah, I think too many do hide behind it. Yeah. So, so what, when you got out of prison after the manslaughter charge, what, what happened then?

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What the fuck is going on? Canadian. Yeah, exactly. What a place to commit crime. Jesus.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Oh, yeah. Yeah.

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And you'd have gotten at least 20 and done at least 15 to 17. Yeah. You'd have been, that's if you got 20, you might've just ended up with 20.

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No, you would've, you would've been at all. You'd still be in there.

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You'd still be in there.

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Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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When people are looking for you, you don't keep the identifying documents.

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She doesn't know that. I promise you.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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She didn't mention it.

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He's huge. He's done. He's done. Who comes up to you and, and tells you.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Doesn't sound all right. I mean, in some ways it does. You guys are playing hockey and, and, and. Oh yeah. Hockey, football, bunnies. I never saw a fucking chocolate bunny the whole time I was at Coleman, but you know, so.

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Huh? Which state did you do time in? Florida. Florida.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. I'm from, I'm from Tampa, but I was on the run for like three years. But when they caught me, They sent me to Coleman, which is about an hour north of Tampa. Okay.

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I'm actually from Temple Terrace. Absolutely. Like 15 minutes outside of... You know, it's almost like a suburb of Tampa, but it actually is its own city. Nobody knows that, though.

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Yeah.

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Not a great interviewer, but I am interesting. Yeah. So, so, so you got out and did you go live like near your sister? Cause that's pretty much your only real kind of support, right? Yeah. So that's a problem. Yeah. It seems, it seems, I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but no, no.

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Okay.

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You just can't get right.

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Yeah. That's the store. Every unit in Coleman had at least one, sometimes two or three stores. Yeah. It was the same thing. It's like either someone would do... sometimes they do half or some, some would do double, but yeah, like if you bought, like if you bought $10 worth of stuff, you owed him $15 worth. Yeah.

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So what I realized was, I mean, obviously, well, we didn't have any money. So it's whatever the equivalent was like, they'd say, okay, they give you a store list. They'd be like, you, you might've gotten three bags of chips and a, and maybe a six pack of soda. So you own like 10 bucks or you own like 15 bucks.

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They give you, they go, okay, you got to give me three coffees, one creamer, a bag of chips. Like they would break it down. Cause there's no money.

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You're about 33%, right? Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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Okay.

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Right.

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Right.

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Right.

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Right.

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Don't smile at me. You're really, it's about people helping people. You're really helping the single mothers. I hear you.

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But they're hanging out at crack houses.

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Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I hear you. I believe you. So I did that. She didn't know. She thought I drove Uber.

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Okay. That's Tommy. Jimmy. Paul lives with his mom. Here's his phone number. That's Billy. Billy. I never even liked Billy.

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Yeah.

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You hit him with your buddy.

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So you're on the run making movies.

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Okay.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Was that his fault too?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And then, yeah, they're putting out the spike strip. I got to go.

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course of course that's a given i'm surprised you waited this long yeah but as i think i was never ever a drug guy like really like before that i tried coke for a little bit didn't like it quit it so anyway so i smoked meth so you smoked so you smoked pot you've done coke yeah you've done what other drugs acid when i was 16 you don't sound like a drug guy no but i

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So you were saying you smoked the meth.

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That wasn't on meth. It wasn't on meth. There needs to be a character on meth.

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Not even nine months.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Narcan is the stuff they give you to kind of revise you, right? It's like a. Yeah.

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But... I'm sure tying the guy up to the chair, that's not... A little bit of wiggling, I guess. Did it with...

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Right. Your wife said. Yeah.

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Ex-wife. Sorry.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Um, Okay, and you're working with your stepmother? Sorry, what are you? My foster mom. Foster mom, thank you.

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Yeah.

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I don't know much about, you know, I'm in Florida, so I don't know anything about frostbite. Yeah. But what, what, I mean, how, but why is it taking so long?

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That's good. How do you feel about this?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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How do you feel about the interview?

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Feel like we covered everything? We're good?

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What? No.

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I mean, who doesn't?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Listen, I'm going to interview a guy who was his, uh, his girl, ex-girlfriend. Now, obviously his girlfriend, uh, saw a he was taking a nap and she saw a gift card for victoria's secrets even though and mother's day was in a few days and that was her mother's day present she saw he's all like a 50 or 100 get boiled water and threw it on him on his junk On his shit. Oh. 30% of his body burned.

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He said the skin. How do you. Oh. Melted. But he said he has a word. He's like sloughed off him. I mean, it's. Listen, he sent me pictures. Wow. Horrible. She was horrific. Yeah, I did. No, no. He didn't send me like, there was no, it's full on. It's bad. Wow. Pink little thing. And that was for her. From her. That gift card was for her. The gift card was from her.

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Oh, listen, the whole thing, she's in prison right now. Like, she was on the run. She just went just nuts. Just insane. Is the guy suicidal? No, he's fine. I mean, he didn't burn it off. I mean, he just lost it. Oh, okay. But he was for 30 days. For 30 days, he was in the hospital. You imagine how painful that's. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Holy shit. Yeah, bro.

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I'll take the calm, boring, let's watch the Netflix series life over. You know?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I'm good. The insanity that comes with, you know, drug life. Yeah.

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Okay.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah.

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Yeah. I had a guy make a ring for you. The soap stone.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Well, let's give it another try.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It's not a bad dose. Listen, bro. This guy thought his wife was his girlfriend was perfectly fine. He's like, we've never had any problems. Never saw this coming.

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I feel like I'd argue differently, but, uh, so what happened with the priest?

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Is he deceased or is he?

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I'm okay with it. The whole trust, trust women. All of them? Really? I love, what's his name? Burr? Is it... I forget the comedian where he's like, really? You can't trust anybody. Not all men, not all women. No, no. There's too many examples. Too many bad apples out there. Right. Especially here's the whole thing.

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It's funny when someone comes out in public and says a bunch of defamatory things about you, and then you defend yourself and prove that they're not true. Suddenly they're like, you got to stop talking. No, you set the tone. So that's what this is. Now I'm fighting back. Then they go to the courts and say, hey, let's shut this down. No, that's not how this works.

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You don't get to say a bunch of stuff and then shut me up.

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I was watching a video. I'm doing research for a book on a serial killer. And I was watching a criminologist talk about psychopaths. And one of the questions they asked was, what is one of the industries that has the most psychopaths? And... Hollywood. Hollywood. Yeah, it was. It was. It was. It was Hollywood. It was like Hollywood. It was doctors. It was like a police officer.

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Like, but the first one she was like, yeah, she said entertainment. And I thought, wow, like I didn't see that. But it makes sense. But it only recently makes sense because 20 years ago, I wouldn't have thought that at all. But in the last 10 years or so. You know, I think just because of YouTube and there's so many influencers that are exposing their their true behavior.

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But think back back in the 50s and 60s, the studios, one of these guys would get drunk and they there'd be a they get into a DUI and they had their own security would go out and fix everything and sign this and sign this and NDAs and I'll pay you this much. And then they grab the guy, scoop him up and take care of him. And

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Yeah, I was going to say, you got to surround yourself by people that will be like, yeah, listen, you're an asshole. Like, I get what you're saying, but you know what? If you're wrong, you're wrong. That's just the way it is, and you're wrong.

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You know, it's a balancing act at this point.

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Yeah, but you're being an asshole never lands you in prison. Like my being an asshole has landed me in prison a few times.

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The last sentence, that main sentence was like, yeah, you can't behave this way anymore. This is not working for you. But see, you know. So you were rehabilitated. That's good. And people tried to tell me before that. But I was like. Can't tell me. I know what I'm doing.

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Oh, absolutely. Yeah, that was it. Yeah, you go to prison. I've said this a bunch of times. Like I have a buddy, Pete, and he always says – and I was already in this – mind frame when he said it, but I always liked the way he said it, which was, he goes, you can't go to prison and continue to behave in the same manner that got you to prison and then leave prison and not expect to come back.

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Like you have to mentally change. And then that was, and that was it. I was like, yeah, I can't, I can't continue to be an asshole, behave like a complete, you know, a dirt bag and get out of prison. Like, It's your, and you go to prison long enough, you realize like you're better off sleeping in someone's spare room, taking the bus than you are.

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The best day outside is better than the, or I'm sorry, the worst day outside is better than the best day inside. So it doesn't matter how shitty it is outside. You just, and just, you know, I just started saying, you know, I'm just going to be a Detroit. Not that I'm a great person. But I'm going to make an attempt to be a decent human being and see how that goes.

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And that's turned out pretty good. You know, it's the whole Jordan Peterson thing, you know, like make your bed and, you know, like don't lie. Yes. It's, you know, for any reason, even if it's on your own detriment, like just don't lie to people and don't and, you know.

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It wasn't my issue. Yeah, yeah. It's being spun against me, and that's not what was happening at all. You know, it's funny. I saw an interview with – there was a – movie she did called, um, um, a simple favor or a favor or something like that. I mean, a great movie. What's fun. What is the girl that Anna Kendrick, but during it, I was way more into Anna Kendrick.

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You know what it is? I'm just extremely honest. I'm like, look, I'm going to let you know up front. Boom, boom, boom, boom.

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Yeah, that's the real key. And when you do that, it's funny because that actually builds trust where people are like, wow, this guy is being so – I'm like – you always say, listen, I'm telling you. You come on the program. We can do this. We can do this. I cannot promise you this, and I'm letting you know now –

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If you say something that you're not okay with and we release the video and two weeks later you want to have it taken down, that's not happening. You know, like I'm very honest up front on how this is going to work. You know, oh, you want to come out? Great. We don't pay for anything. Don't ask me for an Uber. Like I'm very, you know what I'm saying? Like the whole thing.

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And then they're like, you know, damn, like this guy is being extremely up front.

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You can't make it. You know, it's funny. You'll read the comments and there'll be like six people in a row saying, what a great video. Thank you for doing this. This is amazing. And then some other guy will be like, total snooze, bro.

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I'm like, what?

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It's that one shithead. They're like, yeah, I mean, I'm like, go watch fucking Netflix, bro. There's plenty of good documentaries on it. Like, you know, and then my wife's sitting there. I'm typing away. She's like, don't send that.

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There really should be something for the, for the creators, a second button that says, honestly, is this the best decision?

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Um, okay. So what, what, uh, so what are some of the things that he's released that have contradicted what she's saying?

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Right. And then she also said there was no audio.

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Um, but during an interview, she mentions, um, that she makes a comment, I remember, about Blake, not when she said something like, yeah, when she shows up for set, or made some snide little comment. And I remember the look that Blake gave her, and I just kind of remember thinking... Something's up there.

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And she had said that there's no audio, which means that you can say anything.

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Like there's no reason for you to, there's no reason for him to have said all those things. It wasn't like he was in character.

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He knows what I'm talking about. I'm just a talent.

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Yeah. If you line up 12 things that you're saying, all of these things happen. And I proved that three of them absolutely did not happen. I now, now your credibility is not like, I don't believe, I don't believe the other nine. Like you say, Oh yeah, but the other nine, fuck you. You know, you lied about these threes. You're just a fucking liar in general. You're done. It's funny.

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You would think that, Oh, I get it. You're too high profile mega actors, right? You would think one of the two of them, would get to a point. Instead, every time something comes out, they double down. What's funny is when you surround yourself by yes men, you tend to keep doubling down because everybody's saying, oh, we can do this. We can do this. Like, hey, hey, hey.

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But the truth is these people are you're paying all of them. You can't really trust people that you're paying. They don't really give a shit unless they're tied to your success, right? So You can't really trust those people.

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There's lots of little things that come out like, hey, you're not this sweet, wonderful person. And it's the same thing with Ryan Reynolds. I was just going to say, yeah. I love Deadpool, right? But you see these characters and you fall in love with them, and then you find out, oh, he's kind of a fucking tool. I have a friend who used to go to Vegas, and I used to like Jed Law.

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So, so you would think that one of the two of these people would, would step back and say, listen, You're wrong. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're wrong. Even if you don't think you're wrong, this has come out. It looks bad. All of this looks bad.

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We need to settle immediately, and we need to come out with a formal apology or try and do something to say, hey, listen, things have been taken out of context. I may have done whatever. You know what I'm saying? You don't have to address it directly, but just say, look, Bad spot. I was a bad time in my life. I fucked up.

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Whatever the case may be, because if you apologize and you genuinely and you're genuine in the apology, then most people are forgiving. But most people can't humble themselves to that point. And that seems like what's.

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And if he didn't have them, he wouldn't be able to defend against it.

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That's a whole separate story. She's 110 pounds.

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He played next to Judd Law.

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How's that fat shaming?

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Judd Law. Judd Law. It's like Judd Nelson. Judd Law, yes. Judd Law. So he said, and he's English. So he said, I'm playing cards with him. He said, and we're sitting there playing. He said, I mean, we're sitting there for an hour or two. And he said these two girls come up to him and said, oh, my gosh, you know, I loved you in, you know, whatever, Cold Mountain or whatever.

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I want to be a reasonable person too.

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What do you think happens? Do you think it actually goes to trial? Do you think there's some kind of a settlement?

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You know, could I get your autograph? And he goes, I'm fucking playing cards. This is my personal fucking time. Is you fucking wankers? He goes, why is nobody keeping these fucking, you know, and he starts he freaks out and they're like, oh, my God, and walks off. And so they kind of somebody comes in and says, hey, you got to come and they get rid of her.

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So I have to clear this air. But, I mean, Baldoni is saying that he's lost jobs and he's lost money. I believe it. So he's got a great grounds for a loss.

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They enter into an agreement knowing that, we can now do whatever we want and he can't retaliate. Correct. See, that's fucked up, bro.

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And then my buddy's sitting there, and he's like, we had a – talked briefly. He's like – he just went off, and he was – and the guy, he looked at him and said – he's like, it's all the fucking time with these fucking wankers or whatever. And he said – my buddy looked at him, and he goes – I mean, honestly, brother, I just wanted an autograph. Like, what's the big deal?

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You don't know anything. You've never watched The Wolf of Wall Street. It's a great fucking movie. Listen, this guy, 90% of the stuff I talk about, we ask Colby, have you ever seen this? And he's like, no.

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He goes, it's all the fucking time. You understand?

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Listen, I'll tell you, and this may be the narcissist in me, but let's face it. If you're an actor, when you are struggling, begging to be able to make a living as an actor, You would have given your soul to do it.

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That would have been a good one too, scorched earth.

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And then you but it's also because I read the thing. I read your description of what the channel is. You also talk about the true crime.

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You're worth 20 million. Sign the fucking autograph. Be appreciative. You know, I'll take.

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It's like 70, so it's, you know, that true crime is consumed about 60, 65% by women, but violent true crime is what they focus on. So it's like 70, 80% of violent true crime.

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If you remove the violent, if you remove the serial killers and all that stuff from it, then it drops dramatically. Like they're not interested in, scams and bank fraud and stuff like that. They're interested in the serial killer, the murderers.

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Yeah, that's not my area of expertise. So I have a reallocation story. You want to hear this?

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On me, the Blake Lively thing, where remember how you were saying some people compare... The Blake Lively thing. And they're saying like maybe Baldoni and maybe there was a thing there. And then Ryan Reynolds, maybe he found out. And so it turned into something, you know, suddenly it was like, oh, no, that's not what he's been. He's harassing me or whatever. Right.

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So maybe there's a theory that that's how it developed. Yeah. OK, so. When I heard that, I thought, oh, that seems reasonable. The reason I say that seems reasonable is that I was married but separated from my wife. This is 20-something years ago. This is when I owned a mortgage company. I decided I was going to go ahead and get my real estate license. Well, one of my brokers, his name was John.

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John's wife was Deanna. She wanted to get her real estate license. And he had told me, hey, she's going to go wants to get a real estate license. And you said you want to go. Do you want to you guys want to sign up together so you can drive her there? Because he only had one car. And I was like, yeah, sure. So we sign up together. And after work, we would go to do our class at night.

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And then you come back. This happened after a week. It's like a six or eight week class, right? And we're doing it like four days a week or something at night. So what ends up happening is after a week or two, we start sleeping together. Well, he knows something's up. And eventually what happens is the class ends and I tell her, yeah, we're done because now I'm at work and she's calling me.

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Blessing or a curse? In general. I'm sure people recognize you, right?

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And I've got a secretary who phone calls go through. So your husband is in the bullpen. You know, he's working in the office and you're calling me.

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We already discussed the asshole part of it. So so, you know, sorry, no judgment. Continue. Asshole move. I get it. But the point is, is that she's now calling. And I'm like, listen, this is done. First of all, it was never going anywhere. That's dangerous. Yeah, it was never going anywhere. Did she know that? Yeah, she always knew that. She always knew.

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And she's the one who said, look, I don't want to get divorced. Like this is like, hey, we've got a few weeks together. That's the frustrating thing where they know what's going on.

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So and I'm getting a divorce already. So she's thinking he's available and I can maybe she's thinking it's a step up or something as far as, you know, monetarily or something. I don't know. Husband was a good looking guy, but they've been married for a while. Maybe that was it was over anyway. And they did get divorced. Right. Shortly after this. So what the point is, is that.

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At some point, he realizes something's going on. And I've stopped talking to her. I've been like, don't put her phone fucking, don't put her calls through. I'm never here. That's it. She got to a point where she had her best friend calling me, asking me to, will you just talk to her? She's going nuts. You know, she's unstable. Like, I'm now, all these things are coming out. She's unstable.

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Yes, it's happened. Listen, I get recognized.

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Like, I'm like, oh, no shit. I started to notice that when she wouldn't take the hint. Even though we had the conversation, this is only while we're doing this. Um, so what happens is, cause I'm like, I don't need any drama. I got enough problems. I got an FBI investigate. Like I got all kinds of stuff. I'm committing massive frauds. You're like, I don't need this right now.

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Anyway, what ends up happening is. And you added more drama to the mix. Of course I did. Um, so what, what ends up happening is one day I get a phone call from one of the mortgage. No, it wasn't a phone call. One of my mortgage brokers, her name was Susan Barker. Susan Barker comes in my office. She said, listen, John's coming in. He said he doesn't want to.

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He basically said, you need to leave, not be here. When he comes in, he's cleaning out his desk. And I went, why? What's going on? And he put a device from radio. This is how old this is from Radio Shack. I don't even think there are. Are there still Radio Shacks?

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But it went to a RadioShack where you plug this device into the plug. This is back when you had landlines.

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So you plug it into the phone, and then you put your plug in, and every time someone picks up the phone, it records. And he had recorded a bunch of Deanna's... Deanna? Anyway, Deanna's... Beep. Oh, I'm using real names.

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They're all, this is 20 something years ago. She's a psycho. So anyway, and this is why I'm saying that she's nuts anyway, but on top of that, listen to what happened. So he records these, these phone calls between her and her best friend. And so he listens to him.

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So he takes the thing and he goes and I found out, you know, this is stuff that I found out that Susan's explaining to me and basically said that he after he listened to the whole thing, she comes home and he says, look, I know what's going on, blah, blah, blah. She denies it, denies it, denies it. And then he says, I know what's going on. I know. So finally, she says, OK, but you don't understand.

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He essayed me. And he's like, really? And she's like, yes. And then I didn't want, you know, I was scared. I didn't want you to lose your job. I didn't know. So and he's like, yeah, but you can. I know you continue to see him. And and she said, yeah, but you don't understand. She's like, I was scared. I was frightened. you know, first it was like, I was afraid he's going to kill you.

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I was going to afraid this. I was like, Oh no, kill her. I was like this. I was scared. And so I continued. And then I ended it as soon as it was, Oh, you know, obviously it stopped happening. I was so glad when I was done and we got our license and the whole thing. Okay, fine. So he goes, and she says, you don't understand. He, you know, he forced me. And she goes, I'm telling you right now.

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Oh, I drop everything. If somebody says, aren't you Matt Cox? I'm like, boom. Yes, I am. How are you? Let's take a photo. What's up? No, I do that, too. I'm thrilled.

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She goes, I'll go to the police right now. He essayed me. I will go right now. We will go file a police report. I will file it. We'll have him arrested. And keep in mind, I'm sitting there. The broker's telling me this, and I'm thinking— Like I never thought it would go like this. I knew she was a little nuts, but she's now ready to file false accusations.

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And so what happened, of course, is that he's got the recording. So then he starts playing the recording. And one of the recordings is between her and her best friend and her best friend. And I'm sitting there telling Susan, by the way, like none of that's true. That's not true. She had a whole thing where I slid.

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my all the stuff off my desk and threw her on the desk and the whole thing and susan's like well i mean i know that's not true she's like you're not that passionate um and he played a so he ended up playing one of the voice or the the the the recordings for his wife and he told susan and it was um she was her friend was saying look you have to stop The guy's not interested. It's over.

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Find someone else to focus on. And she said, you don't understand. After having sex with him, I can never have sex with anybody else.

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This is that guy saying hi to me. And oh, my gosh, I watch your stuff. That's the reason I don't have to have a real job.

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Luckily, luckily, luckily, John said he luckily he was reasonable. He was like, you're not calling the police. You're not doing that. And we're done. Find someplace else to live. And they actually got a divorce. But so it's like and you were the best you ever had. That's the only part of her story that was true.

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And listen, the comments will go nuts and it will get 4 million views. And I'll just be, if Colby is willing to sacrifice like my pride for views, he will make me look horrible. Anyway. So what I'm saying is that I could see some – like, hey, I found out this. I found out – luckily, he had these tapes, and he knew none of that was true.

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What if you get the guys who are like, yeah, if he was a spiteful person, which he wasn't, thank God. other than he was saying he was going to kill me if he saw me, which is funny because a month or two later, we both went to a birthday party dinner, and we were there, and we talked, and we shook hands. We were like, hey, and he's like, yeah, she was crazy, bro. You know, the whole thing.

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You can imagine what my plight. I mean, I mean, look at me. I have fans. Look at me. If you look like me, my God, it would be twice as bad. Luckily, you've got this.

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What's funny is like, so that, like, how is that not a charge? Do you see what I'm saying?

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I like that.

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And I'm supposed to say what? Tomorrow, stay tuned, and we're going to be releasing the Jay-Z video. Subscribe. Okay, that's fine. See ya.

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And they're not. Well, the Ryan Ryan Reynolds thing, I would think that he would be, you know, everybody like I see him as one person. And then the truth is, apparently, he's not a nice guy.

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What about the guy that plays the bartender in Deadpool?

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So if he doesn't he doesn't like Ronald.

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Yeah. It's weird for someone to, yeah, it's, it's an odd thing to say in general. Yeah. Yeah.

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This isn't a good look. So the movie comes out. We know that there's a bunch of drama going on. And then suddenly, and it's not looking good for her, so she drops a lawsuit. I have a question. If you're an attorney... And you sit down with her. Like, wouldn't you have vetted what she's saying? Like, hey, like, Blake, is anything going to come out?

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Like, did you ever say, I mean, she's just going, no, absolutely not. Absolutely not. I mean, wouldn't you say, oh, great. Give me your, like, all of this is going to be subject to discovery. So he's going to get your text message. He's going to get everything. He's got them on his phone already. Like, It's more messed up.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Then you meet me and you hang out with me and you're like, ah, you're just a fucking schmo. Just like us. What? You got issues?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I'm going to pull up this. Then we're going to do what we call it a hack split.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Oh, I don't really know. But you figure it out and you can go YouTube. YouTube will tell you how to do it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Why we want you to come down the sheriff's department, not because you're in trouble, because we want to give you a free shooting lesson because you should have killed him. You shot him three times. If you get a few lessons, you could have shot and killed him the first time.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You know, because- I've talked- I know guys that know him. Really? Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I would have pulled myself over if you didn't do it. Would you like to search my car? I feel it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Let's talk about this. Oh, I'm so – did you realize this wasn't your house when you climbed in the window? Like that –

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You know what I'm saying? Like you don't have to be, this is where we're totally going to differ because I knew that I got with being him being a little bit aggressive.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Too High for Crime: Real Stories of Hilarious Hustle Fails

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So, so Matt, he might hit a teacher.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Too High for Crime: Real Stories of Hilarious Hustle Fails

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Right. Or I don't know. Maybe you're like, I'm fine with that.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Not really. No?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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On Instagram.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I mean, I saw a movie he was in.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Oh, no. I got to get the music.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I have tons of, I make a bunch of, uh, Marilyn Monroe.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. I got, I just do pop art. Here's Biggie.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Like this one. I got Biggie. Two Biggies. I'm about to do two Biggies.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Blood In, Blood Out, no. I don't know.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And there's a video camera that also helps support his story. And you're still even considering listening to the cop.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I would love each criminal out there that's done something this stupid to write a book and put it on Amazon.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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They're like,

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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No, you can get parole.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Because they had a 10-minute conversation with somebody. Now they're an expert.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Colombia. No, Brazil?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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That stands for pot. Oh, my God.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Someone gave me that.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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There's four or five guys in the dorm that have those. I've seen people with tattoos. I thought they were Hawaiian.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I'm in the back of the car.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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What's he doing?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Like, just tell me like this one section, tell me even if it's just in this general area here, this whole two and a half minute part felt funny. We're not sure, but this just narrow it down. And I'll go in and say, ah,

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, I love Uncle Buck.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Roughly.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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That's good.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Oh, thanks. And he put up with me, too.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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The woman walking back there is the same woman.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I was out in society doing it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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No.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Oh, okay.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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This is the biggest one. Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Sure.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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In the federal system.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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That's it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, I feel the same way.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So I have a question.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Sorry. So you they grabbed you.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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They're not trying to make you happy. They're not concerned about your comfort. Are you happy? Is everything okay?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So he's a YouTuber.

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Vitaly just got arrested in the Philippines. We're going to be talking about that. We're also going to put several locked up abroad clips at the end of this video. You want to start and kind of talk about who he is?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Um, which I was really sad.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So he's been doing this, um, in the Philippines. Yeah. So this is where he did it in the Philippines. How long? Um, so, I mean, what, what happened? What went, what went wrong that he ended up in, in jail?

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You would think they would feel bad, like, hey, I think we obviously got this guy into a jam.

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Well, he was just streaming all these stunts that, well, just annoying things. But the big ones were, the biggest charges are threatening to rob an old lady, grabbing, I think he tried, I'm not sure if he was successful, but he tried to grab a gun from a security guard. And that is definitely serious.

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Is this a regular bus? This isn't like a transport owned by the DR?

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Yeah, I was going to say.

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I got to sit in prison.

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I saw the one where he grabbed the hat off of the cop and he takes off running.

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I fucking knew it. I was going to say, was this guy died? Does he get sick?

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Yeah, there's not clear footage that I've found of him trying to get the gun, but it's definitely a charge. So I don't know if that's really true, but it's one of the charges. And then trying to steal a patrol bike. I'm all of that. What's funny is the cop was just looking at him like, what's going on here? He couldn't even process what was going on. It was hilarious.

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So this dude, Vitaly, is one of the OG pranksters on the internet. So he was one of the first dudes who blew up and actually made a career and eventually millions of dollars from pranking people on the internet, making videos about it. And in fact, like... How long ago was this? A decade ago, 15 years to a decade ago. And then...

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One of the things is unjust vexation. That's a thing, I guess. I don't know. You vexed me. You vexed me, so you're going to jail. I don't know.

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I don't think that's necessarily not a thing here, but

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Yeah, I mean, if it was a thing here, a lot of people would definitely be going to jail. You know what I mean? Because out here, some people vex people for a freaking hobby.

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And I wake up one Sunday morning

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Well, first of all, the problem was the videos that I watched of him doing all the annoying stuff, annoying people, vexing people, is that by the time they got to the thing with the cop, where he kind of took the bike from the cop and kind of, he stopped. He actually gets going and the cops just stand there. He stops and he looks at the cop. He goes like, yo, bro, I want you to chase me.

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The kid. The kid. And...

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Like completely confused. But by the time I got to that video, I was so annoyed. Like if it had just been that video, I would have been like, oh, that's kind of funny. But the fact is I'd watched like four or five other videos prior to that. And by that point I was like, God, this guy's a prick.

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um yeah and he so what was i gonna say i do find the annoying videos i've seen some of them that are comical but the ones that i think are funny are the ones where some guy walks you know be some young white kid will run up to like a black guy and try and like grab his wallet or walk up and try and hold his hand or something and the

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I could be extorted.

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That's a reaction time.

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These are not exactly rule followers.

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They've been warned, but yeah,

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And he's just chasing him. The guy's like, it's a prank, bro. It's a prank. It's a prank. It's a prank. And the guy's stopping him. They have to show the video. And he's like, these guys are ready to kill you.

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Yeah, yeah. Those are funny.

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But he doesn't get that reaction. Nobody's coming after him in these videos.

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They're just completely... Like I said, because it's like alien behavior. It's so unfamiliar. It's so not... They can't process it, basically. Because like I said, the whole confusion thing. Asians, we keep our heads down. We don't like to rock the boat. We respect our elders. That's like the thing right there. So anybody that acts in different ways, we don't know what to do.

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Is there a good time situation?

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Yeah. You can survive, survived a year. I can survive six more months. Maybe. Right. Not the end of the world.

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So to the point, like in this other dude, Johnny Somali, that's been doing this for the last two years, they just they just deport him. You know, like he goes to one Asian country and. No, actually, some of them, they even just make him say a video apologizing and stuff like that. But then to the point that they just rack up so many charges, they have to prosecute him.

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And then... So he's getting a lot of attention doing that. So I guess this guy Vitaly, he just gets out of trial or whatever. And he needs to revive his career. So why not just... Just make the biggest splash possible, right? But what I think he made his biggest mistake is he did not know the Philippines and he decided to do it there.

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But when he gets this dude, Vitaly, in the Philippines, man, just one incident. No, not one incident, but... You know, just one trip. And I don't know if you saw my video, but like I say, living hell. Living hell. So, Matt, what's your reaction seeing the footage of Filipino prisons? Like, how would you compare American prisons? Is it... How do you feel?

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Yeah, it's insane. They're just piled. It makes me think of that prison that... Is it El Salvador? Where they've built that... Right, right. The mega prison. Yeah, the mega prison. It holds like 80 or 100,000 people or something ridiculous. They're just piled. They just pile them in. You don't get a mattress. You don't get nothing. It's you and your underwear.

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You got a pair of boxers and a tank top, maybe. You're in there with... There's 100 guys in this cell, 100 guys in that cell. They mix up the gang members. They're not playing. It's absolutely their rules. It made me think of that, only less clean. Because at least that one, the El Salvador one, was clean because it was brand new. Yeah, it looked like spotless. Yeah, yeah.

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And I've met these guys that have been in those types of prisons, and there's a hole where you shit in a hole in the side. You go up there, and there's feces smeared all around. These guys get dysentery. They have diarrhea. They throw up. They get dehydrated. They die. They don't care at all about these guys. They don't care. They give you a five-year sentence and maybe you survive the five years.

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Now, I don't know that it's like that there. It might be perfectly... Maybe they are taking care of them and feeding them and that's not the case. Maybe there's decent facilities for the bathroom or whatever.

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That's the other thing is... money talks in the philippines so um it doesn't note those countries like that by the way like like mexico the cartel if you're a cartel and you have money they get like a whole wing of the prison they get they're catered to same thing same thing so same thing what i was trying to say it's like the tally has a choice he could be in with the rest of them

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or he can pay millions. And if you got it, if I was into his shoes, if I got it, I'm giving it. Yeah. Even if they're bleeding me dry, I'm going to do it. Like, would you? Like,

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Yeah, I've talked to, which would be, this would be great if my editor actually went and cut out some of the explanations from some of these guys we've interviewed that have gone to, I want to say we had a guy that was in a Venezuelan prison. I know I got it wrong, by the way, so I'm sure. But he did like, one guy did like a year in, let's say, a Venezuelan prison. No, no, wait, where did he go?

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Was it? Oh, shoot. I don't know. Anyway, like, you know, South America. Yeah. Yeah. I think we have three different people that did time in South American prisons. One guy did like seven or eight years. And I mean it. But keep in mind, he had his family who are sending him money.

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And it wasn't I hate to say that it's not expensive, but but it's not thousands of dollars a month for for three hundred dollars a month. He had a cell. He had his own cell or cell with another guy and an extra couple hundred here, a couple hundred there. So by the time he's at five, six hundred dollars, less than a thousand dollars, he's living like a king there.

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Now, so now I don't know if it's like that. Now in, um, I was locked up in, in Coleman, a prison in, in, uh, in Florida. And there was a guy there. I mean, there were several guys there, but there was one guy that my buddy Pete was friends with and he was a cartel member and he had done like five years in a prison in Mexico. And then he did, I want to say he did.

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Because pretty much, I don't know what your experience with Filipinos is, Matt, but the way Filipinos are, they're just jovial. They're just really nice people. So I think he thought that he would be able to get away with a lot of stuff because of the way Filipinos are. But the thing about Filipinos is that it's not really known is that they're nice.

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He probably did 10 years in the U.S. and he was at a low. And listen, him in Mexico, the way he talked about Mexico and he had, by the way, he had a binder of photos that he showed us. There's not like him talking. He's got photos of the prison and his cell. They're drinking Corona. Yeah. Yeah, they got they got three or four cell phones. He's still running drugs from inside the prison.

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And they did. I forget what he paid. My buddy Pete would remember. I think it was a few thousand dollars. It was it was like maybe maybe it was four or five thousand a month. The cartel had a complete a whole wing where they they were allowed to have women come in for. Exactly. That's why I was going to say no more than 10 days.

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Like you're allowed to have, and he's like, yeah, yeah. Then you had, you had to have like a two day break. Then it started over again. Like they had a whole thing. And he would talk about, And then I forget there was a maximum per month, which was like, it was whatever it was. It was like, it was like 20 days or only 20 days a month or something. He's like, you could break it up two days.

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For one girl or one girl? Because he would have, he would have, he always called them strippers, but they were hookers, obviously. He would have like women come in. stay with him for a week. Then they'd have to leave. And then two days later, his wife would come in, spend four or five days and then have to leave for a couple of days. Then the girls would come back.

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Oh, it was, listen, it was insane. And the photographs were insane.

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Yeah. Yeah. Same thing.

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Same thing with the Philippines. Yeah. It was thousands of dollars.

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I don't know what kind of money Vitaly's got. Yeah. That's the thing is like when you're in, when you're in a, developing country, and then they know, oh, he's from America. He's white. He's a streamer. He's famous. They're going to rack up. They're going to raise the prices. You know what I mean?

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The main reason, Matt, that I know a lot of this shenanigans out there is because I spent high school there. And I was a really bad... No, in the Philippines. Yeah. And I was a really bad boy out there to the point that I got in... circles with some of the really, really bad people that I could have ended up in jail in one of those prisons in the Philippines or dead.

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So that's why, that's why I'm here. But I still have ties out there. I still have property out there and I go there at least once a year. So I'm really familiar with the culture. And like I said, Out there, it's not in the thousands of dollars. It's a lot. We're talking hundreds of thousands of dollars for like... Especially if they know you got money. We're talking maybe... It gets up there.

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It really does. Hundreds of thousands, I would say, in the Philippines. Because of, I know, personally... People that have gone through the system and have had to pay. They're not even foreigners. These are Filipinos, but they are high profile people. So just because they know they have money, they charge a lot more. So it's probably going to be the same thing for this guy.

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But if you cross a certain line, they gang up on you because, um, I don't know if you know the history of the Philippines. It's been colonized by Spain, USA, and Japan. So there's a lot of like pent up like, I don't want to say, willingness to defend, you know, pride. And what what's happening with Vitaly. So he did try to try to copy these nuisance streamers.

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Or maybe it's going to be like, maybe I would say it's going to be like a year thing where it's going to be like, give us 10 million pesos, which is like $200,000. That's the kind of stuff they want because those, those, those, and it's not, it's going to be like for this amount of time, then you have to pay again.

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And it's probably not going to be a monthly thing, but it's going to be probably like a yearly thing or every time that, they're going to keep asking. It's going to be not on a scheduled time, but when they want to, they're going to keep asking. So it's probably going to be like 10 million each, each thing, each time they ask, they're going to want like 10 million pesos.

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Like I said, 200 grand, something like that. Just from, just from what I know from, like my name, one of my neighbors that gone through the whole system. And that's what, that's what he had to do pretty much.

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Does, does it matter that he's high profile? Like they won't give him the opportunity or that he'll be under more scrutiny as a result of that. And it's possible that. Yeah.

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Yeah. I mean, especially when we're talking millions out there. Yeah. They're always finding a way.

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And it's not like he can go to trial and try and beat this. Well, one, he's guilty. It's on film, but But two, if he went to trial, he'd be in even more trouble. Is that right?

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It's so obvious that he's guilty because it's all live streamed. Everything was live streamed. So all the evidence is on the internet, which is horrible for him. The only question is, does he deserve it? Does he do those pranks? Yeah, he vexed some people. Yeah, he did this and that, but... Does he deserve that for that amount of time?

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Based on what I saw, and I'm not sure how you justify... I'm not sure how you justify what I saw. If you said, oh, no, no, no, those people were in on it. I'll tell you right. The old lady that he was kind of hounding and giving a hard time to, and he was saying, if you don't take this money, I'm going to rob you. He was giving her a hard time. I... I mean, does he deserve it?

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I don't know if he deserves five years, but he deserves he deserves to spend some time in prison. I don't know if that's a year or five years. I don't think it's more than five years. I think you're in. First of all, it bothers me that it bothers me that you would go to another country and not be extremely polite. Right. Like I'm polite. That's just normal. That's just normal. The U.S. I'm polite.

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So if I'm in your country, I'm going to be extremely polite. So it doesn't make sense. Yeah, I'm going to go to your country just so I can give people shit. Because if I did in the U.S., there's a chance I might get shot or get the shit kicked out of me. So I'm going to go somewhere where people aren't used to this and they're more docile and they're not going to react properly.

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in a violent manner. Cause I don't have the balls to, to, to put up with an American's reaction, which is going to be horrific.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. Yeah. I think you just summed it up right there. Why do we do that out there?

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Like I said, it's, it's probably to me, it's probably a year. His behavior is probably a year in prison and another year for being an asshole. It's probably two years, you know, because he's an asshole.

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I agree. Anything more than that, I think, would be a little bit too much. But what's really sad is, like I said, it's going to be the elections, and they're going to make him a poster boy to get reelected. The thing about Filipinos is they're really, really sensitive about how they're perceived by others. Right.

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because um like i said earlier colonized by spain america japan so like we have this kind of like um inferiority complex so if somebody just disrespect us you're gonna we gang up on you like it's kind of it's kind of crazy but it's sad but it's true um And it's just the way it is. And from the comment section in my video, they want blood.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, it's it's it's they're pretty pissed off and they want to give him as much as they possibly can.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And like I said, he did it in the wrong country where it's just, it's just going to make any other prison, any other, and not just the prison, the actual sentences, like they don't mess around there. It's just not known. So he just didn't know this, I guess going into it, but yeah, It's, it's brutal. He's, he's in for what I would consider hell on earth.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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My buddy, I have a buddy, like I said, that lives in. Well, he did live in Bangkok and then they just had that earthquake. Oh, wow. That was crazy. Oh, no, he was he was he was in bed. Like, he was in his apartment, in bed, in his underwear. He ran down. One of those high-rise? Yes. 30th floor. Oh, my gosh. He said he scaled down the elevator. He broke his foot.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I don't know if he ever went to the hospital, but he said it's broken. He's like, I'm telling you, it's broken. He said towards the end, he was leaping down the stairs. He said, I've never been... He did a video about it. He starts crying in the video. He's like, I've never been so fucking scared in my whole life. So he goes all the way down the stairs. He did a whole video.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He's already moved to Cambodia. So he went to Cambodia. I don't know if he's staying there or not, but they wouldn't let them back in the building. They let him go back in for 10 minutes and leave. And he's like, so I'm kind of homeless. So he went to Cambodia because you have to leave every 30 days or 60 days to renew your visa.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I don't know what he's doing exactly, but he had told me because he was making videos about being in Thailand. And one of the things he said was, well, you know, I said, what you ought to do is talk about what's good and what's bad, like a difference between the US and this, because he would talk to me about it. And he would go, he goes, I don't want to do that.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He said, the problem is, he said, I don't want to say anything bad about Thailand at all. And I was like, why? He said, they'll throw you out, bro. He said, they'll throw you out. I've already seen videos where guys get thrown out for really not for saying he is much at all. He said, but they don't, he said, they don't want to be, have anything negative said.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And he said, they'll just come and grab you and put you in a holding tank and put you on a plane and throw you out. He said, it's over.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, well, Thailand, yeah, Thailand, they got a king. So, you know, full on monarchy, like whatever he says goes. Yeah, you're not even allowed. Like if you're in the same room, your head in Thailand, your head is never supposed to be above the king. So you always have to be like lower somehow.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Interesting. I'm like five foot six. If I was a king. I like that, though.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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But yeah, Philippines is different though. It was a colony. It was the only colony of the USA. So what's interesting about the Philippines is they have the same exact, almost the same exact constitution as America. Which is really cool. Yeah. Which is, I don't know if it's related, but, uh, that's what's cool about the Philippines is like same, like first amendment, second amendment, everything.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So, yeah. So it's one of the freest places, um, rights wise in the world next to America. Cause we share the same constitution.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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but they still have their own kind of what code as far as like, don't, don't be laws and stuff. Yeah. Don't be disrespectful. Don't.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, just also with the, with the, the whole attitude when they try to prosecute someone, they just, they, you know, they don't have any mercy. Yeah. Right. I don't know. Yeah. Like here, I feel like America is just really the best place to be criminal in the whole world. And you know what I mean?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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If you're going to be a criminal, you're lucky if you got caught in the States because everywhere else, you know, they just, well, I was going to say, I actually, there's some places like Canada.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. You, you didn't have to look. I've interviewed some Canadian guys. I don't know what they're doing there. Like, I don't know how, that whole place isn't just criminals. Like they, they just don't lock anybody up. Not for any length of time.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Like if you'd get 15 years here, you're getting five years there, you're doing one year and then they're putting an ankle monitor on you and telling you to go home and get a job and just live your life. And, and it's like, sounds like kind of a little foreign. Yeah. Yeah. I did a year on five years in the States. I'd get 15.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And one of the big things that they do there, if you've committed crimes and, in the U S is they'll threaten to send you the U S and everybody's terrified to go to the U S and go to, cause they're like, I'm at 20 years, almost 20 years. So, uh, yeah, there was a famous case where there was a guy who was counterfeiting American money.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So it's president of the Philippines. Did you see this video? It's like 10, it was like six hours ago where he said he's doing five or 10 years.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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and spending it in... Somehow or another, he was spending it in Canada or he was also selling it in Canada and having people go to the U.S. and spend it. Somehow or another, I forget exactly what he was doing. But when he got caught, he was fighting the case and that's when they finally brought in the Secret Service and they said... if you don't plead guilty in Canada and take this plea.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And it was like five. It was nothing. It was five years. They were like, then we're going to bring you to the U.S. and prosecute you there. And he immediately pled guilty. He said, oh, I didn't realize.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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My mistake. I guess Canada is the best place for a criminal, not the U.S.A.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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If you hear these guys' stories, and the prisons are better, and just across the board, they just don't give as much time. But other than that, you're right. At least you get some due process here. Some of these places, listen, if anybody does watch this this far, we'll put up some of the videos from some of the guys that have been locked up in South American countries.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He didn't say the time, but he's definitely... Because right now, it's election season in the Philippines. So what's going to happen is all these politicians that are running are going to use this guy for their campaigns. So he's going to get... It's not looking good for him at all. Because...

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And it's, I just did a video on a guy who had been locked up in Turkey. And what happened? Listen to this. Listen to this. This is a Muslim country. He got, this guy got four. I think he got four. I could be wrong. It was four or five years. He got like four years though, I think.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So he got four years just as he, and no, I think he got five years and he was going to do four with good time of some, they have gave you some. Yeah. He smuggled like some marijuana, a couple of keys of marijuana or something. So they give him five years, but they luckily they didn't charge him with smuggling because they charged him with. It was like possession. So he got five years.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So he had almost finished. He was 50 days away from finishing his sentence. The government appealed the decision. They bring him back to court. They give him life. He then appeals that and they lower it to 30 years. So you got 30 years for two keys of marijuana. So he's out now? He did get out. He escaped. He escaped. Wow. How did he escape from a Turkish prison?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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This happened like 30, 40 years ago. Did you ever see the movie Midnight Express? Yes. It's a movie that was made back in the 70s or something. 70s? Late 70s, I want to say. And they made a movie called The Midnight Express, and that's when it happened. But he's like, the laws haven't gotten any better. It's more brutal now than ever. And once again, there's nothing you can do.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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There's nothing you can... Most of these countries... you go into and your best bet is just to plead guilty. Cause if you try and Mount any type of defense, they have like a hundred percent conviction rating. So you're going to lose. Right. Right. They're going to give you 50 years. The, the, the one that I said, I think I, did I say it was Venezuela? I forget the cut.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Anyway, I don't, I forget the, um, I forget. Somewhere in South America. The prisoners have guns. They have guns in the prison. The amount of weapons that they have. And this guy paid for his own cell. I think he did, like I said, seven or eight years. It was outrageous. His video is insane. I think we had to edit it so badly.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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We had butchered this video because just the whole thing was so violent. the violence guy. And it was something where like he, he had smuggled something one time out of one country and then he was going to smuggle another time. And they were like, yeah, yeah. But this time we're going to go here.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And he got caught like the first time he did it and got 15 years or 10 years or something and did seven or whatever it was. And he's American. Yeah. As American young kid, he was like 19 years old. He was just a kid. Oh, they don't care. They don't care. And then, and the American embassy is not going to help you.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. That's what I was going to say. What do you think Trump's going to do? You think Trump's going to do anything about this dude?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I mean, he was being an ass. Could you imagine showing Trump those videos?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He'd be like, that's a jackass.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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like I said, the elections and, uh, these politicians, these are some of the worst politicians you'll ever like dirty, dirty politicians. So they're willing to do anything. And if they're going to, if they have to drag the student's name through the mud, so be it. And that's, what's going to happen. Um,

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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That's what I would say if I was Trump.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I think he'll go there. I think his family will flood the prison with money and I think he'll have the best possible time he can have and Let's say he does get the five years. That's what the other second video I watched, they made it sound like the president said, he would get five or 10 years, but you're right. I never heard the president say that. I think they were alluding that.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It was, it was the, it was the prosecutor saying per charge, it's five, five years, but the actual, um, the actual hearings he said would be two to three years because everything's backed up. So man mandatory, it looks like going to be two to three years just to go through the trial.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So, wait a minute, so two to three years before he is tried?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Just to get a verdict.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Does that come off, he gets five years? If he waits two years and he gets five, the two-year come off the five? Probably, right?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He didn't say that. The prosecutor didn't say that, but he said two to three years, and then per charge is five years, he said, so.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Insane. I mean, his best bet is to try and get just plead guilty, apologize his ass off, say I'm a jackass. But, you know, like you said, he already went to trial. This other thing that didn't teach him a lesson. Yeah. Yeah. Like, right. You just said he had just faced charges before. Yeah, right?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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In the States, but he was acquitted for some reason. Really? Yeah. It was pretty brutal. The photo of the woman he beat up, it was a woman.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, I was going to say, he's... Yeah, I don't think he's got... Nobody's going to have any sympathy for this guy.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So, what do you feel, Matt? Do you think... Do you think the U.S. is too lax? Do you think we should at least nudge a little bit toward that way? Or do you think we're just fine?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I think that our sentences... Now, I only know the federal system. I think the federal system sentences are brutal. I think that we should focus more on violent criminals. I'm always amazed that somebody will get... you'll give a white collar criminal 20 years and then somebody will kill someone and get 12. It's like, right. What?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Like, so I think that the sentencing guidelines need to be adjusted. And I think that people should probably be placed on probation. Like you, maybe you go to jail for two years or three years and then you get another three years on probation. Because I think that helps people, uh, You have to get a job. Right. Do you see I'm saying like that's the kind they have so much control over you.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You go to prison for 10 years and get out. You've learned nothing. Nothing. If you go for three years and you put this guy on on probation and an ankle monitor for seven years, say you have to get a job or we're going to throw you back in jail and you have to pay for the monitoring. It's one hundred dollars a month. They'll do that instead of going back to jail.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And since the president already made a comment about it, they're for sure, for sure going to drop the hammer on this guy.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I'd rather live in a rooming house on an ankle monitor and go work at McDonald's because I can watch YouTube and I can play video games and I can do whatever people want to do. It's a better life out here than it is in there. And after six or seven years, and maybe you even tell them, hey, you can earn your way off of this if you behave. Maybe maybe it's not seven years.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Maybe it's three and a half years as long as you behave and don't get yourself jammed up and thrown back in jail. And what happens is for the first time, you've got a drug dealer who's never done anything but sell drugs. And now he's been working for Target for three years. And if you take that ankle monitor off of him now, he's like, I can live like this, like this is not a bad life.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So you teach him something. And you can do that a lot more inexpensively than keeping him in prison.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Exactly. That's what I was going to say. How much money is that going to save taxpayers?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Tons. A ton. Because prisons, I think in the federal system... I think it's $35,000 a year. $35,000 a year in the federal system. And I want to say it's like $24,000, $25,000 in the states because they're cheaper. But either way, if this guy's out on monitor and he's paying $100 in, he's also paying into taxes. But here's the problem is that most of our departments...

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I have a friend that is currently in Thailand. And he talks about how You know, he's walking the streets and he's like, there's no there's no garbage on the street. There's no trash on the street. And he says, like, everybody's super, super nice. And he was talking about how they're extremely respectful and they have that a big thing for them is respect.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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or bureaus in the United States are just not designed to try and save money. There's no incentive to try and save money. So they... The incentive is to spend the money. Yeah, and get more inmates. So if you're the Bureau of Prisons and the Department of Justice, and for every person you prosecute, you get so much money. For every person incarcerated, you get so much money.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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There's no incentive to try and get you out of the prison. They want more prisoners. So there needs to be kind of a rethinking. The problem is, too, is that there's no good solution. There will never be a good solution. There will never be a perfect system. There will never be a system where you say, our justice system is, oh, no, it's perfect. It's as good as it can get.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Our justice system is extremely flawed. But with the exception of those minor tweaks that I just mentioned, it's pretty good. It's not great. There's no great system. But it's not bad.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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No, not at all. Compared to the rest of the world, yeah, definitely.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Especially in comparison, yes. In comparison to a lot of other countries, it's superior. But then there's other countries that are probably even more, you know, you have, it's such a balance, bro. It's such a, it's such a delicate, you know.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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But I do like those ideas because one thing is like, especially if you're, you're in a more higher security prison, just the, the culture of violence that's there. You know what I mean? The culture of the gangster culture and everything. Yeah. You're just immersed in it 24-7 right when you get out. You know what I mean?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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In your head, in your soul, you're still in that culture right when you get out. So I think what you were describing, if they could get out a little bit earlier, just be monitored. That way they can kind of shed that culture slower. You know what I mean? They don't have to... right away, just completely like a fish out of water have to be able to participate in society right away.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You know what I mean?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You know, the, I'm sorry. I was just like, the other thing about reducing, reducing the prison population is that for every like five, four or five inmates, there's one guard, right? You know, and I don't mean guards in the unit or in the prisons, but there's guards that are working. You know, they're they're doing clerical things or there's employees. I shouldn't say guards. There's employees.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So there's for every four or five inmates, there's an employee in the Bureau of Prisons. So you think, OK, that but do you know that right now for every probation officer, every probation officer right now is monitoring about 60 people. So think about that for every.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So how many more people can we monitor with less employees if they're on ankle monitors and the bulk of prisoners aren't the bulk of prisoners aren't violent?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So that's what were you in a higher security facility?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I was in a medium security prison for three years. And then for like nine years, I was in a low security. I never made it to a camp. You know, a camp would be like a facility where there's no fences. So when I say medium, a medium prison is exactly what you think it is. Like there's guys getting star stabbed on the rec yard. There's, There's gangs.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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There's that, that two tier system where you walk in, you got the stairs and you can, there's a second tier and you know, it's very much, it's, it's very much what you think. It's not a pen. Okay. Okay. Guys, penitentiaries, guys in the pens, it's extremely violent. I mean, you know, very, very violent. And those guys, when they get out, have a really, they get, they get less violence.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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instructions, less help, less halfway house, and they are more prone to recidivism to come back. So that guy gets out. Because it's their culture. Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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that's just the way of life in the prison. You just let them out. I mean, they gotta, they gotta adapt. They have to adapt somehow. Um, would you recommend, would you consider for those, um, your, your, the stuff you're proposing, would you, would you consider doing for those kinds of guys or.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. Well, I mean, if they were nonviolent, I, I think, I think you need more monotone monetization, monetization, You need to be monitored more. You need more monitoring the higher you are. Maybe those guys have to stay in a halfway house longer. They need to be monitored more.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And like their word is like really like if they say they're going to do something, they do. You know, I'm saying he was he was basically saying like. That respect is a big, big thing there. They don't, you know, it's kind of like you go to Japan and you get on the subway and there's, there's a police, there's like a monitor there that like, you don't, don't take your cell phone.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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The real problem is, I'll give you one example, and I'm not a violent person, and I'm not someone who's typically subject to rash decisions. Here's what happens is, even in the medium, even in the lows, in prisons in general, if I call you a bitch, that's absolutely fighting immediately. But when I got out of prison... I went to work for a guy who says it all the time.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He's like, oh, bitch, you're crazy. And I mean, the first time he said it, the heat, heat shot up from my stomach into my chest. And I'm telling you, my face turned red. And for a split second, I was just like, and I'm not that guy. Yeah, I'm not that guy, bro. Like, I'm not violent. I'm not. But I said. It's the culture. Right. It had been 13 years.

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And the only time I ever heard someone say that immediately, both dudes are dead. It's kicking off. And so when I heard that, I was... Physical reaction to it. Physical reaction. And I'm not even that person. I'm not in a gang. I'm not getting fights. I'm not... So what's it going to be like if a guy from the pen went and worked for that guy? Yeah, he'd probably kill him. Right. And you know what?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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In his mind, he wouldn't have thought anything of it. He would have thought he disrespected me. And in a way, in the pen, I have to do something. Because if I don't, Then everybody thinks they could do that. Come in my cell. They'll take from me. They'll they'll abuse me. They'll. So I have to survive. So for them, it's more than just, hey, bro, don't sit like don't don't don't.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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That's don't do that. It's survival for them.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It wasn't even. It's instinct by that point. It's instinct by that point. You don't even think by that point. It's just like breathing. You know what I mean? Like. It's survival. It's survival. Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So I don't... The guys from... End up in pens? I don't know. I don't know what they do. I don't know. You'd have to keep them in a halfway house for a couple years. They'd have to... You know, there are programs right now in prison. There's a program called the RDAP program. It's the... It's the residential drug... I want to say drug abuse program or drug something. Anyway...

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And you actually take these guys and put them in a special unit where they take classes during the day. And it's really a behavior modification program. It really has nothing to do with drugs. And I've always said, but what it really teaches you is it's called rational thinking. So it's cause and effect, right? Like if I do this, this is what's going to happen.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And so it has you think through the things that you do right now naturally, right? instinctively you do this already. These guys don't do that. If something happens for you, let's say you're in a store and for even a split second, you thought nobody's watching. I can grab this item, stick it in my satchel or whatever, walk right out. Nobody would know.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Don't, you're not loud. You're quiet. There's no trash on the street. Everybody polite. It's, it's.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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For you, one, you probably, that probably doesn't even cross your mind. But if it did for these guys, it's like, damn opportunity. They don't think, wait a minute. What's going to happen if I do get caught, which I might. There is a possibility I get caught. I get arrested. I have to go to go to go to jail. I have to try and get out. If I don't get out, I can't go to work tomorrow.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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If I don't go to work, I'll lose my apartment. I lose my apartment like I can't see my kids. I can't get you really got to spell it out. And they don't. They don't. They think, oh, opportunity. Yeah. Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I know that mentality. I learned this in the Philippines. There's a lot of poor people out there. And to them, like the kids, it's sad with a lot of inner city kids out here, too. It's like to them, it's like grace from God. You know what I mean? There's something there. If you didn't get it, it's like. what are you doing? You're, you're saying no to grace. That's it's there.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So, you know... That's just normal for Asian countries, I would say, because that comes from Confucianism. If you know, like they say, Confucius say. And so it's in Chinese. He's a Chinese philosopher or whatever from thousands of years ago. But the influence spread definitely all throughout Asia. And basically what Confucianism is, is like... the complete opposite of American culture in a sense.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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God put it there for you to steal. So that's, that's kind of the mentality too, which is, which is when I first heard that definitely shocking to me, but, um, and also what you just explained how, you know, you just, you just see one thing. You don't even think the next steps behind that. But I guess, you know, other people, you just, they don't even do that. Yeah. That's,

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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that explains why someone would end up like that.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So the, the problem, like I said, that those are the guys that need the most help and get the least help. Um, you know, and this is a thing they're going to release them anyway. Does that make sense? Like if you're saying, Oh, well that guy shot somebody, fuck him. He deserves what he gets. I understand he deserves what he got. And I understand he got 25 years, but they're going to release him.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Like we save some money, release him earlier, but monitor him because the probation officer can monitor that guy better. Make sure he can integrate in society. Exactly. So he doesn't have to come in another crime because what's really happening is people are going to prison. They're doing all their time. They're getting no they're not getting any training.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And they're being released and they commit more crimes and they go right back to jail and people say, see, they're horrible people. And you're right. They are horrible people. You just let out a horrible person that you never tried to fix his behavior.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You also explained why the prisons don't want to do that is because their business model is going to be affected.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So if just for a taxpayer, I would definitely want the money going to rehabilitating their actual mental state. Just because, like you said, they're going to be let out.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. If you're a politician, though, you don't get elected by saying, hey, let's put some money into rehabilitating these guys. Or, hey, let's let these guys out an extra... 20% off their time so we can train them while they're out, that's not going to get you elected. What gets you elected is give them more time, lock them up longer, keep civilians safe. And then what really happens is this.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You let out 100,000 guys. And nine, you know, ninety nine thousand nine hundred of them and ninety nine reactivate. And one guy gets out early and he murders the one guy. And that's it. That's all they'll focus on. They take away all the. And I used to say this all the time when we were in prisons, in prison, because every once in a while the administration would try and do something.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Like they would they do something like they had a room they designated for you could watch DVDs. So they went out, they got all these DVDs, they got all these little flat screens. You could watch them. You could sign up for it to go watch the new, you know, the new King Kong movie or the new whatever, the new some romantic comedy.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And you sign up for it and you go to your time and you put it in there. And very quickly, the inmates that are working there start selling the slots online. You had to pay and then somebody gets angry and they break a screen or somebody steals a screen. And the next thing you know, and I used to always say like, well, the inmates ruin it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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The inmates ruin every time they try and do something for you, they ruin it. And the only response for staff is take it all away. It's never measured. It's like, I didn't do it. I've been renting and I'm good and I sign up. Jimmy's the asshole. Punish Jimmy. It doesn't work. It doesn't work. Like I said, anytime you throw human beings into a system, they ruin it. They just screw it up.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So there's no protection.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It's really interesting how everything can just... You can just make money out of everything in prison. It's so interesting how... I think being in prison teaches you how to be an entrepreneur because everything.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Did you have the same experience?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Like it's not like here. Individuality doesn't mean a thing. You know what I mean? It's all about the group. It's all about the family. It's all about the community. Um, what your needs, the needs of the community far outweigh the needs of the individual when it comes to, yeah, because of confusionism. So most Asian countries have some sort of influence of confusionism, I would say.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Learning how to be an entrepreneur in prison.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. I mean, kind of what I did was I basically I wrote a memoir. And then after I wrote my memoir, I started writing other guys memoirs. Uh, and I wasn't charging them, but what I was doing was I would get them to attach their life rights to what I'd written. So when I got out, I knew when I got out, I could option their life rights.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You know, if I could sell that product that I would be able to go and say, Hey, I've got this amazing story, a true story. And if you were a producer and you wrote it and you said, I'd love to take this. I, I had the ability to say, and by the way, I have a signed agreement where the person has optioned their life rights. So I'm not just selling my article.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I'm selling the life rights, which is something that it's very, it's valuable. And so the, the suddenly the producer who's like, wow, like that just kept me from, that keeps me from being sued. So this person's obviously going to participate in two. They're not going to go behind my back and try and talk to somebody else. Cause I already have an agreement with them.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And three, they're not going to sue me later for, for stealing their life story. You've already attached your life rights to it. So I knew that was worth something. And, and so that's kind of what I did. And what that, that's how you started the podcast, right? It morphed into it. Like I didn't know about the podcast. I, I'd never been on YouTube. When I got locked up, YouTube had just come out.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Podcasts weren't even a thing until 2009, and I'd already been locked up three years.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Did it feel like a time machine getting out after 13 years? I'd never seen a cell phone.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I'd never seen an iPhone. This is like magic. These things are magic, bro. Texting had just come out. Facebook had just come out.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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When you got in, it was like Nokia phones, right? Or something like that.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, the Razr.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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There you go. And then you get an iPhone, you're like, what the heck?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Insane. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. So I, and then I started doing podcasts because it, you know, but I didn't really know what I was going to do when I got, I kind of was like, yeah, I'm going to do, try and do one of these true crime podcasts. But even that was not what this ended up being.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You know, I thought I was going to interview people and then there would be the music and the, you know, it was going to be a super produced, very produced. And it wasn't going to be this kind of a thing. But this is what it turned out being because, you know, you have to hire a whole production company to do that.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And in the end, I don't know that you get that much more out of heavily produced content.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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No, I mean, it's just really about what you guys talk about, you know. If you're talking about crap, if it looks amazing, you're still talking about crap.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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What's funny is I'm going to say this because then Colby will hear this. Colby will be like, what? It's funny because the other day, so a couple months ago, I have a buddy named, I have two buddies who have YouTube channels. Well, I have multiple buddies, but these two guys have very successful ones. One is Julian Dory and one is Danny Jones. And they were sending me

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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like we're on a text thread, all of us, or they were, so they were sending out the basically like, I forget what Danny was, but they were comparing like where they fell on, um, on a Spotify where their, their things fell right there where they were. And I, I contacted my producer Colby and I was like, bro, why, where are we ranked?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And he came, he said, oh, I think you have to sign up, but I don't know. I'm not sure. I don't know how. Let me look into it. I never heard anything else about it. Last night, he sent me one. And out of 2300 true crime podcasts that are on Spotify were 45. Wow. So I was like, right. Like, that's that's pretty cool.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, because the stories are compelling. You can't deny them. They're real, real AF. Let me ask you this, Matt. In the U.S., is there any kind of bribes that you can pay to get special treatment, or is that not a thing at all?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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In prison? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, in the federal system, I mean, there might be – it's more like guys trying – you could probably bribe a correctional officer to bring in – not probably, I know you can, but it depends on – you could also get in trouble trying to bribe them. But guys will bribe them to bring in drugs or a cell phone. So it's more like bringing in stuff.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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to the point where all his, um, pranks are classics in like so many people, so many YouTubers and streamers, do they just copy it? So there's like thousands of copies from his original ideas. So he's like super OG when it comes to pranks, you know, on the internet. And apparently he's been getting a lot of trouble. Um, so last year he was, uh, on trial, um,

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It's not so much getting – special cell and not having it like i have my own cell that's probably not gonna happen not for too long yeah um but you could probably bribe them to bring in stuff and that happens not probably it happens all the time but it's not nearly to the degree that patches these other trees like it's these other countries it's it's it's just blatant it's blatant

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So this kind of behavior, just like, it's like an alien. It's for an Asian to see this kind of behavior. It's like, what is this? Is this an alien? So it's just an agent. We didn't even think of acting that way.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Prison guards with BMWs.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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That's what we're talking about. The guards, they get paid so little in these countries.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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They're getting paid nothing. What else do they have? Same thing. All the way from prison guards all the way to the customs officials. They're all driving nice cars because that's just what they do. We take bloods.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Are you good? You feel good? Yeah. I mean, I feel like we've covered everything. I feel great for an hour. I didn't think we were going to get even an hour. You started asking me questions, bro. You don't get me talking. I'm a talker.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I mean, I'm just curious. I want to see the point of view of someone who's actually on the other side because everybody wants to see him burn.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He's such a dick though, man. All those videos, I kind of try to look at it like, well, what could justify what he's doing? And I'm like, there's nothing to justify it. You're just, you're these poor people are just trying to live their life. Like I'm trying to walk home from work, bro. What are you doing? And you're giving these guys a hard time or, and I can imagine treating a cop.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Could you imagine treating a U S cop that he would have been shot immediately? Yeah. He'd have at least gotten his ass beat. He'd have been in, he'd have gotten his ass beat, been in coffee, pepper sprayed in the least, in the least.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And it just goes up from there. But, you know, if I was a cop, I would have shot him. Yeah, I mean, he's... Especially if you're trying to grab a gun. I mean, that's crazy.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, the gun thing, I didn't even notice, know about the gun thing. That's so over... That'll get you shot every time. I think the pepper spray or tase is more, you know, but the moment he went for it, you know, if he did go for a gun, yeah, it's over. Oh.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. So I don't know how to even react. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Because what was the name of the guy that there was a guy that was like this and it was in the US and he was same thing. He was we'd go around annoying people and he there was a was it a DoorDash guy that had picked up a pizza or something. He was getting in his face, annoying him.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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This whole delay was because of that.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You're at the trial.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And the guy pulled a gun out and shot him and then went to trial and they dropped that. They dropped the charges because it made sense to me. It's like, what are you doing? Get out of my face.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I mean, that's what I want to bring up, too. It's like, how do you feel, Matt, about the USA right now? Did you hear about this dude, Carmelo Anthony?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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That's not familiar.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Um, but I mean, this isn't the place you end up like how long, like how long it's like, do you get a lawyer there?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So there's this kid, right? He's a high school kid. And there's footage of him killing, stabbing the other high school kid, right? Yeah. And there's footage of it. And just as of yesterday, the judge let him off on bail. And somebody – and they started like a GoFundMe forum that's already raised $450,000. So, like, what's – Like the contrast for me is just so huge.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Oh, yeah, exactly.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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The Colombians that are in the U.S. that were a part of this whole thing, do we ever hear from them again? Yeah, yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. Right. Not what they should have done, but probably more than most people would do. Most people just walk away.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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We're going to take care of you. We're going to get you a lawyer.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So eventually you do get a lawyer.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You're 20 years old. 20 years old. Arguing for 8.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Like here we are, like I would say like the most civil, would you consider us the most civilized nation? But yet we just let murderers go just like that. And then out there, somebody just disrespects people. And then he's in for like almost a decade. Who knows, you know? So how do you feel about that? Like that contrast right there?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Um, I don't know. He's a kid. I could see letting him out on, on, it's just, it's bail. You know what I'm saying? Um, so in a way, I don't know that he is a danger right now. I think he, he probably thought he was a tough guy and you know, the one kid told him, Hey, you're sitting under the wrong tent. Maybe they got lippy. He pulled a knife out. He stabbed them.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You didn't get 12 years, right? Did you get an extra 12? So...

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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But you haven't even been charged for the first eight yet.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I think that's probably a manslaughter. Um, That's probably 15 to 20 year, 15 to 20 year sentence. He's also, I think he's a kid, right? I think he's like a teenager. He's not eight. I'm not quite sure. Yeah, he shouldn't have brought a knife. He shouldn't have brought a knife, but it's not premeditated to the point where he knew, hey, I'm going to kill this guy.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Let me just rewind. Because it's not a party.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I think he had a knife because kids are stupid. You know what I'm saying? Kids will bring a gun or a knife to school because they think, I need protection. The truth is, you don't need protection, and you're going to get in more trouble with that weapon. I think it's a stupid thing that he did, and I think he's probably guilty of manslaughter, which is not premeditated murder.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So that night— So if you were to escape and get back to the United States, would they extradite you back? No.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Um, I think, I think probably he, maybe he should have got bond only cause I don't think he's a danger right now. I think right now he's, he's crying his eyes out. He's terrified. What bothers me is that his family is acting like, cause I know, I know the case, I remember the case you're talking about.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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If you had gone over there and been in the cell, would you have not? They wouldn't have switched you back. You would stay there that night.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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But you're just being held in the prison. You still haven't been sentenced on the other. Have you been sentenced for the eight years yet?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Uh, the one kid, it was a black kid and the white kid told him to kind of get up and you're in the wrong thing. We don't know how that, I don't know how that conversation went. I know that his brother was there to witness it. I don't know if he was overly aggressive. I'm not sure how it went. I'm a big believer in a jury's going to know. You and I aren't going to know.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It's just super depressing.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Because, I mean, I can imagine if I was depressed, you know, I could, oh, my God, bro. How often could your family come see you? I mean, you did have a cell phone, though.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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Are they even trying to get rid of them?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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What would they tell you, like $20, $100? Yeah, $20, $30.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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We know what the media told us. You know, how many times has the media told us a version? And then a year later, two years later, you find out what really happened. And then people scream about how, why did the jury let that person go? Well, the jury let that person go because they spent four days reviewing the evidence that you didn't see. You know, do I think O.J. Simpson? I think O.J.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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But, but if there's no commissary, like you may know commissary accounts, there's no accounts, but there's no, there's no, no store, no commissary store.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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Everybody, but the guys run them.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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Real estate market.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I mean, the problem is it's such an extreme. Like, you've got that, but then again, you just showed us videos of guys running around with machetes with this big gunfights, grenades. You know, like it's so it's one extreme to the other.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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Will the guards shake you down for cash? Like, will they steal your cash?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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Simpson is guilty and he should have gone to prison for slaughtering these two people. But the jury saw all the evidence and the jury said this. Most of the evidence came from or was tainted by a detective that is a known racist that then got on the stand and lied. So if we throw out that evidence, because we can't trust that evidence now, do we have enough to convict him?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Okay, so for seven months you had—back to the timeline. So for seven months you had this sentence of a full 20. Then you get the 12 drop because your lawyer convinces the court, look, this is a drug addict. What are you doing? So they drop it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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Is there a good time there?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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Yeah, I was going to say, like, what are you thinking? This is not an expensive—this is not a wealthy country that can afford—it sounds good, but you can't afford to keep these people in here. You just doubled the length, the amount of time that all these guys—like, if it's bad before, now you just made it extremely overcrowded. And if they were violent before—

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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Well, it's bad.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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So what took, I mean, are you, after you get the eight years, are you appealing the eight years or it's just like, that's it, you're done. You're just hanging out.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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So how did you stay in that prison the entire time?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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Do I think in my heart he's guilty? Yes. But did I see enough evidence to put this man away for the rest of his life? No. So I'm a big believer in let that process kind of, you know, it'd be different. Look, if he was an illegal alien. that it stabs somebody, robs someone. My fear is we're never going to catch this guy.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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Are your parents sending you money every month?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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So you said at some point you got stabbed several times, but how did that happen? What was the story behind that?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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Shit is real. It's well thought out.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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It's for real. So they're welding the doors shut, coming back in. They're not trying to escape? They're not trying to escape.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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for beating someone up, a woman in Miami. So eventually he gets out this year. So he's just trying to revive his career pretty much. That's what's going on. And there's been a trend lately of these, they call them nuisance streamers now. where the most famous guy right now is called Johnny Somali, right?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He's going to be out and about for the next 10 years robbing and pillaging and plundering or go back to his country. Don't let that guy out. Or if it's someone who's been arrested multiple times for this type of behavior, okay, he doesn't get out. You see what I'm saying? Like this is just a kid. He may be an asshole and what he did was absolutely fucked up.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I'm telling you, it's crazy.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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Yeah, I mean, you know, like I've heard stories just from guys that had been locked up like in South America or basically in the... Some of these countries, like the Eastern Bloc countries in Europe, where they have nothing this bad, not this bad. Their conditions are just bad. There's not guns. Well, there's knives. There's always knives.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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Right. And I've heard stories from guys that were locked up in South America. But also, if you go on YouTube, there's videos that just are. insane i mean like every it's everything he's saying and you're just like this is yeah like i said when i came back and i would you know tell these stories to people

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. Well, I mean, let's face it, like ninety nine, ninety eight percent of Americans have never even left the United States. And then there's another like something like like, God, I forget what the percentage is of people who've never even left their state.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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Like there's a there's actually a percentage of people that have never left their state. Like it's not huge, but it's bigger than it should be.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So, yeah. And the people that even, you know, so people who have never left the United States just kind of assume it's like similar to this everywhere. Yeah. You're crazy. It's nowhere near like this.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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So what happened with the so they riot? They've got the doors welded together.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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But he's probably on an ankle monitor sitting in his parents' living room right now, crying his fucking eyes out and realizing just how much trouble he's in. His best chance is to try and take some kind of a plea that's going to get him out of prison in the next 10 years and try and salvage the rest of his life.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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Who was visiting? Who was your visit?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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Okay. Yeah, that's nuts.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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So you're digging the tunnel.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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Because he took someone's life and, you know, it's manslaughter and you could have walked away. So, but also keep in mind, I also live in Florida. Where you don't have to walk away. You know what I'm saying? Like if you and I are out in public and we walk by and I bump you and I go, yo, my bad. You go, fuck you, man. I go, fuck you. I said, I'm sorry. Fuck you.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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Knowing that this is about to happen.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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You're digging? We're digging. Are you under any of the walls, the exterior walls yet?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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You're not digging in the wall?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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And the next thing you know, we're we're fighting each other. That's actually, that's okay. When the cops show up, they'd go, what happened? Bump me. I said, fuck you. He said, fuck you. We went back and forth. We got into a fist fight. He broke my nose, you know, and the cops would be like, all right, well, y'all, y'all go home. You'd be like, what are you talking about?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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Does she kind of realize that there's an issue with you?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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If you're in New York or you're in LA, they'd be like, what are you talking about? You broke his nose. Yeah, I know. But they're, they don't have to walk away. They can, you know, it's like Mortal Kombat. Like you're allowed to have this whole fist fight thing.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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Right. Isn't that the name of the law?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Oh, yeah. You're talking about. Oh, there are guys that will shoot that are shooting at each other will shoot at each other. And the cops will be like, right. We're not going to look into it. Why? It just sounds to me like it's it's just there's some side of the law. It's like combat. I don't think I don't know if that's in Florida. But, yeah, it's insane. Yeah, I've heard of that.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, where these guys will get into shootouts in the street. Nobody got... They shot at each other. Nobody got hurt. It's fine. They don't even charge them. Like, I know who shot who and who... Yeah, I know, but these guys were just... They both had guns. They were shooting. Nobody got hurt. They shrug it off.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So how long are you in at this point? Four years? Yeah. Roughly. Four and a half years. Something like that. Yeah. So how many times did you get stabbed? Just stabbed three times.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Well, let's... that's the value in your point of view. Cause you, you know, um, the other side of the story, you know, from, from the, the behind the bars, you know what I mean? So, right. You know, the other coin that everybody else doesn't see.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Like, this is insane. This may very well be the worst story. Like, you know what I'm saying? That I've heard.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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Yeah. What, so, okay. So what happened? I mean, tell me you kicked back, you started a store and you wrote out the rest last three and a half years and it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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That's a good situation.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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But I, I also see that I watched the video of the guy Vitaly.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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He's a douche. So, but anyway, anyway, go ahead and keep like, listen, um, I don't think we just talked about. I don't see that anything we just talked about applies to him because this is a guy who's going around terrorizing people and laughing about it. Right. So nothing we just said to me is applicable to what he was doing. He's just an asshole. And, you know, I agree. I agree.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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We're good. You can't even arrange for a translator to be here.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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I'm not feeling real good about anything you say at this point.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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That's how the cannabis and vape industry comes. I was going to say the cannabis embassy. Like we've had several guys on that were selling and smuggling. And now they have legitimate businesses. Like they all... went legit since they were already in the industry when it was illegal. Once it became legal, it was easy for them to convert.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You're not cut out for this.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I just because a lot of folks in my on the comments of the video that I made are just like trying to point a contrast between if there are a lot of them are saying, like, if this happened in the USA, somebody would even start a GoFundMe to bail them out. You know what I mean? I don't know if that would really happen, but.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You're a high-profile American who's been on the news multiple times.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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There's 800 prisoners.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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An inmate? Some inmate.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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Some inmate says, yeah, yeah, send it to my wife, and she'll take care of it. Right. That's basically how it went.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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Well, there's always going to be somebody like that. There's always going to be those people, but I'm not contributing.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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Is the food that they provide there just garbage?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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Yeah, definitely. No, me neither. Yeah. I mean, I mean, initially when he started out, Vitaly, a lot of people liked him because like I said, he thought of those original pranks. Like the one that really got him famous was he, he was just like talking to a girl and then She'd blow him off, and then he'd pull up in a Lamborghini. Remember that one? And then she completely changed.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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I mean, is he telling you he's going to take the money?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Prison Life for VitalyzTv | Extorted, Desperate, & Locked Up Abroad

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Right. But your family is saying we sent $400.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So that's his claim to fame, and he just started off from that. And then I guess he also did a series before he got locked up last year where he was – it wasn't really douchebag content at all. He was catching child predators. So he'd set up things where... Yeah, he'd set up these crazy predators to show up, and he'd expose them. So in my book, that was pretty cool. I like the Lambo thing, too.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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They were like milk jugs.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, I mean, so... He didn't start out like that. And I really, really think he was just desperate to restart his career. And he really thought the biggest splash he could make was doing this kind of content because it's already trending. You know what I mean? So any kind of new since streamer is going to get a lot of attention. He just didn't know the culture that he was going to do that in.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And he's an American, and he goes to Asian countries and acts like a complete idiot, try to pick fights just to get attention and clicks, and eventually gets monetized, and he makes money off of it. And he's been going around all these Asian countries. And right now, he's finally been arrested in Korea. And he's facing serious charges out there. I'm talking about Johnny Somali.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It's crashing.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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you're going to go to prison.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Unless you're coming to your senses.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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But you're also not, you're not really like a made guy.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So wait, so can I ask you a question? What year was this?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It was 86 when they changed the law and they got rid of parole.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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No, I'm saying in the feds. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, you're doing eight and a half years, maybe some halfway house, maybe six months halfway. Almost nine years. You lose some game time? Oh, yes. You weren't a good enemy?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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So you said you were about to tell me about appeals and.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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Right. So there's exculpatory evidence. There's grounds for an appeal.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So what's going on with the officers? What do these women look like? Listen, you're incarcerated, so they all become very attractive. What are they called?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, she's a prison nine and a real world four.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Oh, yeah. I actually have only seen, I've seen in almost 13 years, I saw two. I probably only saw 10 or 12 female officers the whole time. But I only saw two that I was like, I'd date her on the street. She looked that good online. They don't, they don't last long. Like, like they, they tend to get moved around pretty quickly because the guys are messing with and they'll fall for it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Like the girls will, they, you know, I had, I had a, in the medium, there was a guy that was young, probably 25 years old, good looking kid. The girl was probably 25 years old, but I'll never forget officer Brown. She was super hot. And the kid, that guy's name was Benji. Benji was hilarious. Um, And yeah, they started flirting and flirting.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Next thing you know, like it's lockdown, it's 11 o'clock and you could walk up to the window and she's at the window of Benji's cell talking to him. And within a week, she's opening the door and they're up there talking or he's getting drunk and going into the office. I'd say she lasted a month. They just moved her.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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They just moved her to another... You know, they'll move them a few times and kind of give them a talking to and move them around. Then eventually they'll just fire her. Like, you're not getting it, sweetie. Right. And there was another one that there was a chick they called Trailer Park Barbie. She was straight, dirty foot. Cute, though. And she worked commissary. Mean as a fucking snake.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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Mean, yell at you, scream, talk to you like you were a dog.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And it was just like... A buddy of mine, she was yelling at him. They have the plastic. And she's like, he wanted to switch. He ordered chocolate ice cream. They didn't have it. And he's like, oh, can I switch it? Give me vanilla. Give me whatever. She's like, no, it's not on the thing. He's like, no, no, come on. Just switch it. I didn't know. You said it's okay. You didn't say it's out.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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She's like, no, next. No, no. And so she's like, Listen, do you know that? And she starts screaming. And as she's screaming, and keep in mind, this place is packed. Right, right. There's all these inmates there. He goes, she's like, screaming at him. He goes, and he goes, shh. It touches the glass. I thought she was going to, listen, we were roaring laughing.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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But anyway, so yeah, there's some hot ones.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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None of that's happening anymore.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So, okay, so... So you're okay. So we're not going to get a specific story.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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We have, we had a story about a CEO and a inmate just do 6 million on Tik TOK. So we're, Oh yeah. Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. Oh, nice. Oh, he had a whole, he had a whole thing. It was hilarious too. Yeah. But so you get, so you get out, so you get out after, did you did 10 or nine?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So you got out at nine. Yeah. Supervised release.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Did she stay at Correctional?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It's the best scenario. Yeah, that's the best result you're going to get.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Was there a reason for her to be jealous and possessive?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, those names don't sound like they're mouthed up at all.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I know how they can, I know how.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. They get nuts sometimes.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So that didn't work out. So, but now what are you doing? You're on supervised release. You're laying a marble and.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Sure. He didn't kidnap his son.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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You don't know who's going to take it too far.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So you're still running your kind of construction company. But what else are you doing to make money?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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So what else are you doing for money other than just work?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I mean, all that's true, though.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So he had done soft wide underbelly. That was the first time I was in the halfway house, and he had just done soft wide underbelly. Maybe had he about the same time, around that same time. But yeah, that's how I first heard of him. And I'll never forget, and this is why it's important, is that there was one of the few times I started reading the comments, and this woman said,

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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this man looks like he smells like vintage leather, cognac, and it was, the way she put it, like, it was just great. She had this whole little thing, like, you know, like he was a, you know, you know,

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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like an aged wine or something she had this whole thing and i mean i just started laughing i was like that is a great like that would be at his age for a woman to have right right right said the way he looked in that the word description it was great it was great oh michael's a great guy i you know i spoke to him we met in person he's very very humble and really good good guy he's one of the good ones in the life right what was what family was he a

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Um, so, all right. So you were at this point, you were made, what is, what does that mean? I mean, I know what it means because I've seen some mob movies. Um, so I know everything. Uh, I'm an expert. I watched two videos now. Uh, so what does, what does that mean? Does that mean like you have people like underneath you? Cause I've seen the FBI charts. Yes.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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What's a soldier? So how is a soldier? Is a soldier like an assistant?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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It was in Godfather. Tom Egan. Yeah, yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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Because he couldn't be made in it because he was adopted. He wasn't 100% Italian.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So, okay, so you were made. You've got guys underneath you now.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Like, what are you guys – what are you doing? And you kind of explained it like I'm doing – I've got a regular business. It's legit. We're also doing – You said we have a numbers racket? Sports. We've got sports betting. I'm assuming none of that's legal, the sports betting and stuff. So you're doing other stuff to generate money. How long does that last? And how old are you at this point?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You've got to be in your 30s.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Always paid. This is a kid. This kid wasn't in college anymore.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Camgirls, right? That's what they call camgirls.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Are all these, like, to me, I think of auto bodies, and I think there's, like, a huge opportunity for graft. You know, for a huge opportunity to get stolen cars, use the parts. Like, there's a huge opportunity to... to take stolen cars and parts of stolen cars and use them and, um, you know, refurbish the chop shop.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Well, so what happened? How did that how's that process? How does that start?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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So because he's what he's he's he didn't get bond. He's in.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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Super serious shit for a fucking 20-some-odd-year-old kid. Sorry. I'm sorry.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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That's the streets. I mean, this is vastly different. Like, there's too many people in it. Like, this is vastly different than a couple of gangbangers shooting each other. This is super thought out. Like, yeah, this is a whole cat and mouse kind of thing going on. Sorry. Go ahead, then. I didn't mean to interrupt.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Did he get anything?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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What did you end up getting?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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10 years with your cooperation?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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When you say phase two, what's phase one?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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Arizona. Right. Next to Sammy the Bull. So you did another two, two and a half years.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Right. You got me.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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it's it's you know it's just it's always somebody who's not doing as well as you're doing who and they they're it's like they're they want you to fail so i wasn't doing well i have just came home it's like wow like you're that hateful like how this it's still jealousy they people are jealous they probably thought he will do well so to make myself feel better i'll say he'll be back he'll go right back to prison he'll

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Especially since you haven't given him any, at this point, any reason to think that. Other than the last few decades of going in and out of prison. There was a movie with Forrest Whitaker. And the guy who – he was in Saving Private Ryan. He was in Heat. He died recently. And he was in the – it's a movie about being in the witness protection program. Okay.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And he's in the witness protection program, and Forrest Whitaker is a marshal, and he's basically trying to explain to him, like, you've got no money. Like, we sold your house. Right. And – and you were in the hole. Like you, you, It's funny, too, because his wife is there, and his wife is like, no, no, no, what are you talking about? Our house is worth $600,000.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And he's like, yeah, but there was a mortgage. She's like, there's no mortgage. And then he has to turn to him, and he's like, there was a mortgage. I had to take it out a few years ago. I took it out. I didn't tell you about it. She's like, you took a mortgage out on our house? And so he's like, yeah. And he was like upside down, I don't know, $30,000, $50,000, whatever it was.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And the marshals were like, you don't owe that. We took care of that for you. but you don't have any money. Like they think they've got half a million dollars or something. He's like, so you're going to have to get a regular job. He's like, how am I going to get a job? I don't have any, any type of history. And Forrest Whitaker is trying to explain to him, Well, you start slow.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You go and you get a job at a labor place. And you tell them that if they won't hire you, tell them you'll work for free for the first week or two. And that will help you get. And he's just like, this guy's looking at him just like, are you out of your fucking mind? Like, I was here.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And you're telling me you wanted me to go below here and start over. And he just couldn't fathom it. But it's interesting because the whole thing is just about them being in the witness protection program trying to explain this guy how to reacclimate to a normal life. And he's just not having it. You know, you at least had somebody.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So what are you doing now? You've got rental properties and stuff. What else are you doing?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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What did the NFTs look like?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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I was going to say, you got to do a Franzese.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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Yeah, yeah. I know the chick, and I know she did kind of a rug pull.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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Are you doing, I mean, are you coming out with other stuff other than the, I mean, other like things you can buy with the coin or?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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I know that, but what is it like?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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You got to get all the mob genre guys. You got to get them all on board.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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What about Sammy the Bull?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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What about, who else is there? Nadeau? You know Nadeau?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He's supposed to have come on here. He's canceled twice. Like he wanted, he's like, he said, I want to come to him. I want to come on your show. And then something, suddenly something happened. And then he rescheduled again. And then it, again, he, he, he, I don't know what, I don't know what's going on. I don't know.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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Yeah. Shouldn't you go to the Everglades?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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What's the other? Okeechobee. The swamp of Okeechobee.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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It's funny. I saw him going to Merlino's sandwich place. And initially, I thought he was kind of...

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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Yeah. Alligators would have chewed them up.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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like i thought he had an issue with with merlin he did they did a while back yeah joey even said joey got on there and ripped uh nadeau yeah i thought there was a a little yes little feud going on yeah there was and i didn't think anything of it until i happened to he came up on my thing and he's he's eating a you know a philly's cheesesteak he's talking about how good it is and

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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um you know he goes he's going on and on about you know what you know whatever uh the bread i know everything yeah no i heard a lot of good things about it and i'm but i mean he's going on and on about it and i'm thinking oh they must have you know i was like i thought there was an issue there but you know so um So let's put him aside. Let's say, so we got Wade. I can hook you up with Wade.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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At this point, are you already like calloused and just like, hey, this is the life. This is what I have to do. Or are you like, holy shit, I had to.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Wade's another. Wade is, he knows all about, we talked about him beforehand. He knows he's big into the genre.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I wonder who else there is. There's other people. You know, the problem is a lot of these guys, they start out and then they just... they die off quick. I think they're not used to putting in the work. And it's like, they'll do it for three months and then it just doesn't work out and they quit.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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How long have you been doing this?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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Oh, like four years, five years.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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And it's probably just the last, what, four months that it's been?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

5372.63

It's taken off. It's starting to take off. He literally, he came here three months ago, four months ago, and we did a video about him trying to reach 10,000 subs. Right. And so we put the video out and within a week, he was at 10,000 subs. So he was already at 9,000 and change, 1,600 or something. So he kind of pushed over the edge. He got 10,000. That was three or four months ago.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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In the last, let's say it's four months ago. In four months, he's now at 15,000. So it took you four years to get to 10, and then in the last four months, it's already 50% increase. And that's the problem is that's what happens.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You grind and grind, and you feel like you're getting nowhere and nowhere, and then suddenly once it kind of starts, it usually feels like it's doing this, and then it suddenly shoots up. And you're like, what's going on? But if you really look at it, And it is like that.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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But, you know, it's like Colby and I will look back like every time I complain, like, bro, like the numbers are down and this and this and this. Colby will go.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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here's what april was at last year and i'm like fuck like like you know i'm saying like like as bad as we're doing it's double that right right right right you know you don't realize you don't you don't so uh but yeah wade would wade would love yeah no i'm interested listen i'm going on a tour because with the book with the crypto that's coming out um

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah, that was me two years ago. Now it's like 7, 7.30. Although we were this morning. We got up and Jess and I were there by 6.30. Was it? It was probably six. Listen, when you, when you page, when you texted me, I was at the gym.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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Okay. Oh, wow. Yeah. That was five. Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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It was like five, five 30. Yeah. Yeah. It was probably five 30. That's right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

5543.59

Yeah. That's rare.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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Usually six or seven, but I am, I'm the same way. I wake up at like two or three. Sometimes I'll lay there for two hours, three hours before I get out of bed. Sometimes if I'm lucky, I might drift off again. But usually I'm up. A couple of years ago, it hadn't been like this in probably over a year, where I woke up at 4 o'clock. And by 5.30, we were at the gym.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And we worked out for 30 to 45 minutes because that would take a lot.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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Me too. I'm going through that. Everyone's like, oh, you work out. Bro, I go through the motions.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You don't hear me grunting or screaming or, come on, one more. Let's put another plate on there. None of that's happening.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. That's all. Yeah, listen, 80% of it is diet anyway. That's my problem.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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And this guy is actively, like, he's not even smooth about it. Like, it's overly obvious he's going to have a kid.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I love to eat. Me too. But I don't know where we were going with this. Anyway, oh, working. But yeah, I work probably 60, 80 hours a week. I'm working all the time. I'm texting all the time.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I do whatever, you know.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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Listen, remember how we were... figuring out when you were going to come. Right, right. I moved it multiple times. I'm trying to get it. Can I get two people in one? Can I move this? Can I, you know, moving it around, like trying to get, maximize the time. And even tonight, I still have, after this, I have a phone call to make with the guy.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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But, yeah, but I mean, I, yeah, we already talked about this earlier, but I work all the time. I love working. It's all I want to do. Which is horrible. That's really horrible. Yeah. But yeah, this is like the whole thing's taken off. And who else? You showed me... There's a couple other mob channels that are...

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Well, and I remember Merlino started his podcast, which was funny because it's like it started out, then it kind of failed. And then it. Well, they, they shadow, but what's it called? Shadow band. Yeah. I think he was saying he was shadow band.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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So they didn't monetize it. Yeah. He was, it's so funny too, because I so wanted to reach out and be like, look, you've got a winning formula. You have to, all you've got, you know what I'm saying? Right. But by that time, I don't even want to say it's a mini feud because guys will say, oh, he said this. I don't even think this guy thinks about me. I don't think about him.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He didn't really think about me, but he's got real feuds going on.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It does. And it's funny, too, because there's nothing the first time I mentioned him and that I did and that I had lunch with him a few times. The first time... I was going to say, like, I don't change anything. He's done nothing but prove everything I said, which was he's extremely unhappy. He's miserable.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He was miserable the whole time that we sat there and I listened to him just complain and bitch and moan. And then I've never watched a full video until recently, which was the one about... about Jean Borrello.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yes. And if... What's the guy's name? It's not Merlino. I mean, it's Merlino Snuff.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Snuffy. Snuffleupagus. Snuff, if it... I don't know what Merlino would do if it weren't for Snuff. Snuff is running... Snuff is 90% of the podcast. Right, right. Merlino's... Merlino's... The face. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, his contribution to the video I watched with the chick... was he sat there and his contribution was, ah, what do you expect? He's a fucking rat. He's a fucking rat.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Woman beater. He's a woman beater. He's a woman beater. You know, he tied women to beds and he fucking, like I'm saying stuff I've never heard. He this, he that, he did. And I was thinking to myself, like... He's trying to admit it. He's trying to kind of like, yeah, yeah. I feel like he wanted to say, what are you doing, bro?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Like help participate in a little bit more positive way than just reiterating the same thing. Like you've got a recipe for an amazing podcast. You just have to...

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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He's too rough around the edges.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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But, yeah, they could have. Well, I think their thing is taking off.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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Really? We're struggling for $10.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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Yeah. Yeah. What else? What do you think? So I guess, is he, so are we thinking he could jump on the crypto?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. I ratted. Listen, I did a video the other day where I was like, look, if you make that decision, if you make that decision, I got no problem with you. People are like, oh, people say this. People are like, I have no problem with that. I had to weigh, and there came a time, Kelby's heard of this, there came a time when I had to weigh

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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the respect of my fellow scumbag criminals, and 12 more years of freedom. Right. It was not a hard decision. You know? And I knew that because, just like how you said, you were never loyal. Right. When the first time I got... Yeah, I know you don't really know my story, but the first time I got in trouble was I had... I had two people that when I say friends, we went on vacations together.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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We babysat each other's kids. We went to parties together. We talked all the time. We both own mortgage companies. These people got in trouble. They ran what's called a straw man scam. They got investigated by the FBI. They came to me. I know you're under investigation. And they asked me to refinance their house and get them $75,000 to pay their attorney. I did. I didn't charge them anything.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Nothing. I give them the 75 grand. They go and hire an attorney. The first thing their attorney says is, you need to wear a wire on this guy. They wear a wire on me. So they wear a wire on me. They get me talking about you know, manufacturing, W2s, pay stubs, everything. I just completely bury myself. I don't realize what's happening.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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About halfway through the conversation, I realize, fuck, they're wired. Never once did I think that they were going to cooperate. They were cooperating against me. Everybody I knew was telling me, they're 5-0. You stay away from them. They're going to fucking cooperate. I'm like, they're friends of mine. I remember I got into an argument with my wife. I was like, what the fuck?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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We went to Puerto Rico together. We go to vacation. We go to Disney World. What's wrong with you? My wife at the time. way smarter than me, Puerto Rican. She's got family members that are in federal prison. She knows people. She knows how it works. I'm an upper middle class white guy who doesn't know anybody that's ever been in trouble. And so I don't really know how it works.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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She's saying, stay away from them. And I was thinking to myself, my God, like we were at their party the other day. What are you doing? I'm going to refinance their house. Don't do it. I do. They wear a wire. I get in trouble. FBI comes in, they want to talk to me and I say, no, I'm not going to talk to the FBI. I go hire my own lawyer, 75,000. Apparently that's what you get to as a lawyer.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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Go in the door, by the way. I want to plead guilty, 75 grand. 75 grand to plead guilty? Wow. So he gives 75,000. I tell him, I don't want to talk to the FBI because he told me, by the way, you'll love this. He told me, you haven't been indicted. They just want to talk to you. But they've got a wire. Right, right, right. I can keep you from being indicted. Here's what you're going to do.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You go into your office. They believe that you're running a mill, that you guys are committing fraud constantly. Right. Go get... Five or 10 files of your most egregious, fraudulent files, bring them to the office. I'll have the FBI come in. You can explain about your brokers and who's worked with them. I'm like, right. He's like, cooperate with them and I can keep you from being indicted.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It's just funny that he grabs that guy when in fact... Well, he obviously didn't have anybody of his own that he could go to.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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I'm like, yeah, but what happens to my brokers? And he's like, well, I mean, they'll be indicted, but you haven't been. We can keep you from that. It's called pretrial intervention or whatever they call it. And I went, I'm not going to do that. I saw the Godfather. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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I would never. Like, how dare, I was disgusted. You know how I feel? I feel like. When I watch these guys who have never been in trouble or they've been in trouble, they got arrested one time for selling a little grass. And the cops telling them they're facing 20 years when really they're facing six months probation. And they say, I'm not going to talk.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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And then they get six months probation or two years probation. You were never really looking at time. Right, right. And now they're gangsters. Right. Oh, if I got a fucking life since I just take it. Motherfucker, you were selling some. Right. You were never facing 20 years. It's all a lie. Right. But they feel like gangsters. I felt like a gangster.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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I also felt like the crime you have me for, they had me for, was lying on some applications. The FBI was saying there's half a million in loss. I'm saying there's no loss. There never was any loss because those were mortgages that were taken out on properties that were worth more than the mortgages. So there's no loss. They're trying to scare me. My lawyer's trying to scare me. Whatever.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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I'm like, I'm not looking at jail time. My lawyer's telling me I'm looking at three years. But I realize he's wrong because they're giving him bad information because I understand that you can't say that there's potential loss. If I borrow half a million dollars on a house that's worth $600,000, there's no potential loss.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It's fraud, but if there's no dollar loss, you're not going to jail at that level. I've never been in trouble. So I say, no, I'm not doing that. Absolutely not. I'll take the plea. They also wanted to indict my wife. I said, drop the charge on my wife. I'll take the plea. That's what happens. So that happens. The next time I got in trouble, I went on the run.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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So how do you get grabbed for that?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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But that time, everybody I knew that was spoken to, that was involved in the crime, all of them cooperated. Everybody. They had, I had like 15, maybe 13. I had roughly 15 people on my indictment. It was my name and it was, you know, unnamed co-conspirator, you know, B4, or I'm sorry, I'm sorry, like BG, then unnamed co-conspirator SB, unnamed co-conspirator G, whatever.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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Like they were just the initials, right? Sometimes they do it different. So it was like 13 people that I'm like, all these people are unnamed, but they've all cooperated. So I'm on the run for three years. By the time I get caught, I now know everybody's cooperating. So it's like the first time I didn't plead guilty. I mean, I'm sorry. First time I didn't cooperate to get completely off scot-free.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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The second time I know better. Now I know everybody's cooperating. So then of course I cooperate.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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So when you were explaining that whole thing of, no, no, I could have, there's many times I could have cooperated and I didn't. It's not till I realize, oh, everybody's rolling over on me and you expect me to take it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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But I don't ever go into that because at that point when I said, I'm gonna cooperate, and I actually mentioned this the other day, I think we have a TikTok on it where I explain, if someone calls me a snitch or a rat or whatever, I don't defend that. Absolutely, I did. I had to make that decision. I made it. But that's not a decision that I made the first time around.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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The first time, I told nobody. Listen, and I always tell, if I knew the first time what I know now, I would have cooperated the first time.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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It's got 2 million views on TikTok. 2 million views? Yeah, 2.4. The TikToks, the top comments are a real definition of, I got to put me first. And then the second is, anything over seven days, I'm snitching. You know?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Like, these are my fans. Right, right, right. Yes. I love the first podcast I did was with Danny Jones. There were so many. I thought for sure I'm getting roasted. These guys are going to tear me apart. And there were so many guys that were in there that were saying, like, this is probably the most honest person on YouTube. He's absolutely keeping it real. He's telling exactly what happened.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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This is the way it is. He's not. You know, I mean. That's the best way to be.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman | Cooperation, Mob Beefs, & Making Millions

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I got no problem with, you know, with that. I mean, I think people, I think if you're honest, people are very forgiving.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Hey, you guys, I appreciate you watching. Do me a favor, hit the subscribe button and the bell so you get notified of videos just like this. Also, please share the video. Also, in the description box, we're going to leave Dominic's links to all of his social media, to his YouTube channel, also to the website. Is it a website for crypto?

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We're going to leave a link to the official website for the official Kryptonostra. I'm saying it's hard to say, but the link will be in there. Click on it. Go there. Check it out. Buy some coin. Is it coin? Do you call it coin?

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Buy some coin or token or whatever you want to describe it. Go in there. It's in the description box. All the links will be there. Thank you so much for watching the podcast. Please consider joining our Patreon. It's $10 a month and it really does help us make these videos. Thank you very much. See ya.

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In Florida? In Florida, in Pompano. So you moved from New York here.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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You ever read a headline and think, wait, that's not what I read earlier. Or hear a story that was covered two totally different ways and think, I wonder which one's telling the truth. We all know the news can be biased. Algorithms push stories that they think you want to see. And some outlets spin stories to fit a certain agenda.

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It's exhausting trying to figure out what's real, what's exaggerated, and what's just straight up misinformation. That's why I use Ground News. It's a news platform that doesn't just show you the headlines, it shows you the whole story.

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It gathers articles from across the political spectrum, tells you the bias of each source, and even lets you compare how different outlets are framing the same event. For example, the recent federal health agency layoffs. Left-leaning news described the layoffs as a major crisis, calling them a bloodbath that could harm important public health work like tracking diseases.

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On the other hand, right-leaning news saw the layoffs as positive change. They called it a win-win for taxpayers, which could save $1.8 billion a year. Both sides agree the layoffs and changes were happening, but they strongly disagree on what it meant. Ground news lets you compare these side-by-side so you can actually see the bias and decide for yourself what to believe.

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You can also see things like how news sources are covering a particular story, political leaning of news outlets, and the blind spot feed where you can see stories that are disproportionately covered by one side of the political spectrum. In a world of clickbait and echo chambers, having access to all perspectives is more important than ever. That's why I love Ground News.

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It helps me cut through the noise and stay truly informed. And right now you can get 40% off the Vantage plan for unlimited access. Just hit the link in my description, ground.news backslash inside, and start seeing the news differently today.

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Are you serious? That's a long time ago.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Historian Reveals Government Cover-Ups Secrets!

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Now that you said that, is, does that what happened? Like, didn't he do a press conference or something? They go in the back room in the kitchen or something?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Historian Reveals Government Cover-Ups Secrets!

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And the only reason I know that.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Historian Reveals Government Cover-Ups Secrets!

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The white ones that have the Tesla logos.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Historian Reveals Government Cover-Ups Secrets!

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Tesla bots.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Historian Reveals Government Cover-Ups Secrets!

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but it got demonetized it got shut off about we're talking about 200 300 000 and he said that when he was on the podcast he says i think yeah he's like my episodes usually hit a wall at this certain mile like two or three hundred thousand and sure enough our episode was doing good growing and then right when it hit that two three hundred thousand mark it just shut off yeah yeah and i have ever gone back to ask them why

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Historian Reveals Government Cover-Ups Secrets!

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It's just, it's you feedback. This is for the Rudyard video. It just says in the first five minutes, a human reviewer reviewer video. Let me see. Let's see. Okay, harmful acts and unreliable claims was for Rudyard. And then we have another Civil War video.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Historian Reveals Government Cover-Ups Secrets!

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Yeah, yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Historian Reveals Government Cover-Ups Secrets!

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And another one is just literally titled First Five Seconds Sensitive Events. That's all it says. And those are two Civil War videos that have done... hundreds of thousands of views. That's crazy. And yeah, so I have seen a clip where Trump says like one of his things is he's going to try to limit or kind of hold these social media platforms accountable with the censorship. Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Historian Reveals Government Cover-Ups Secrets!

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Nice. I actually purchased Alaska for $7.2 million.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Employee of the United States Army Biological Warfare Laboratories. Whatever. Fort Detrick.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Historian Reveals Government Cover-Ups Secrets!

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Did you see that, before we continue, did you see Joe Rogan and Trump, that Joe Rogan asked them if he's going to release the JFK files? I did. Do you think that'll happen? Do you think anything will come from that? Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Yeah. I think if— And what is the JFK file? Just probably all the investigation, all the information that they have?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Historian Reveals Government Cover-Ups Secrets!

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So what's his name? Manfred West. Is he still alive?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Historian Reveals Government Cover-Ups Secrets!

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Is he releasing these paintings from prison?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Historian Reveals Government Cover-Ups Secrets!

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You can read them and they'll be on Patreon.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Historian Reveals Government Cover-Ups Secrets!

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Yeah, we talked to somebody who was a 911 operator.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Colby conduction. When I was in history class, my history teacher, that was my teacher for multiple years throughout high school and probably a little bit of middle school, he ate stuff up, and I just remember sitting in the class, never knowing I'd be here, thinking, I will never need to know this information.

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ServiceNow supports your business transformation with the AI platform. These young women now applied for compensation from the victim's compensation fund and they were denied. And both therapists believe that they were denied because...

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One Night Stand Scam GONE WRONG!

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You're done.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

One Night Stand Scam GONE WRONG!

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Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

One Night Stand Scam GONE WRONG!

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Yeah, I was gonna say what if he's bathroom?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

One Night Stand Scam GONE WRONG!

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Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

One Night Stand Scam GONE WRONG!

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Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

One Night Stand Scam GONE WRONG!

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Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

One Night Stand Scam GONE WRONG!

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What do you really do with it? Pardon?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

One Night Stand Scam GONE WRONG!

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Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

One Night Stand Scam GONE WRONG!

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Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

One Night Stand Scam GONE WRONG!

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Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

One Night Stand Scam GONE WRONG!

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Is she just fucked up? Okay.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

One Night Stand Scam GONE WRONG!

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Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

One Night Stand Scam GONE WRONG!

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Barely.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

One Night Stand Scam GONE WRONG!

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Yeah. Okay.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Look at him.

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Yeah. Yeah.

Modern Wisdom

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Okay. Rogan's got to be Darrow. Michael Malice can be Severo.

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Your relationship should feel like home. It should be a safe harbor for you and

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There was nothing for me when I was there. So going back, oh yeah, check this out.

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So a full, you know, 17 years or something, I permanently bit off more than I could chew.

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When we first spoke nearly five years ago now, I said that I might be your arch nemesis. And in some ways, I've become worse. But in other ways, I've become much better since then. So I can give you up top, I can give you a thank you for at least adjusting my trajectory over the last five years in a positive direction.

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You're like, no, no, no, that's bullshit. When I get to success, it's all going to be fine. It's like, look, every single person I've spoken to, every single one of them, the problems don't stop. They get more complex the higher up the ladder you get.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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how can people better work out their priorities? It sounds all well and good if it's not above 90% important, but you've just admitted yourself that we're living in an age where everything feels important. Not only does everything feel important, but the most important things are often the least urgent.

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So you have to get through the non-important urgent shit first, then you need to get through the non-important non-urgent shit to find the important non-urgent shit that sits at the bottom. How, after all of this time teaching people, doing courses and all the rest of it, What's the best framework that people can use to work out what they need to work on?

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I had a conversation with a guy called Nick Pollard, the people displeaser, and he used a not too dissimilar analogy, which was a missile doesn't hit the target. The missile doesn't hit not the target. And that's the way that missiles work. This is not the target. Avoid it. This is not the target. Avoid it.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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And after you've not avoided all of the not the targets, you end up hitting the thing that you meant to hit. And, you know, again, so much of the sort of the essentialist mindset is around the elimination. It's around the not doing. I'm completely obsessed with the idea that success in life is at least probably 90% avoiding catastrophe as opposed to expediting success.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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Because the catastrophes are the things that knock you out of the bottom. They're the things that cause game over. You spend your entire life caring about your health and eating organic and ensuring that you don't have seed oils. And then one day you drive your car without your seatbelt on. It's like, hey, guess what? Game over.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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So those are the things that really come in and make step changes to the quality of what you're doing. So just going, actually speaking on Nick's work, People Pleasing, I think there's a lot of parallels with what you do. Talk to me about why saying no to new, more things is so hard.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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Nick came at it from an emotional health perspective, but I'm interested to hear it from a work-life-purpose-productivity perspective from yourself. Basically, why saying no is so hard and how people can learn to say no more effectively.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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Yeah, George, my friend, asked this question on the first ever episode, even before you. He was before BG. He was before Greg. And he asked this question, how do you make a miserable person happy? You go, no idea. He says, how do you make a happy person miserable? You go, I've got a fucking million pieces of advice for you there. You go, right, okay. So inversion's a useful tool.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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And I can find out, at least I can avoid the pitfalls by making sure that I don't do the things that I know that are going to make me miserable. You know, it's probably...

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maybe a mark of where you've gotten to and the fact that I'm receptive to it and actually more receptive to it than you giving me a four-step matrix of how I'm supposed to identify the most important thing and all the rest of it. Because this may be frustrating to people, but fuck it, I don't care. As you get further along in the journey of working on yourself and of identifying how you work best,

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experience comes along for the ride. So previously, everything was very effortful and it was system two. You've got your daily list of affirmations and morning routine and all the rest of the stuff. And there's still a place for all of that. But largely what you're doing is you're

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you're forcing all of this water into an ice cube tray so that it sits nice, compartmentalized, because you have no idea what to do. It's messy. The world is messy and chaotic and you need to wrangle it into some sense of order. Fantastic. What I've learned that that, whatever it is, conscience, daemon, gut instinct, habit, whatever it is, that thing that goes off there, for the most part,

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is almost always right. And it gets more right the longer that you go on. And you say, well, that's whimsy. It's imprecision. It's wishful thinking. It's untestable. It's unverifiable. It's unfalsifiable. I'm like, yep, I am completely there with you. And yet, when I find myself following that thing, most stuff goes well.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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Most stuff goes well, and it goes better than it would have done had I have tried to reverse engineer my, what do I want written on my gravestone, broken down into 10-year chunks, broken down into one-year sprints, broken down into daily action. It's just, what do I want to do? And that, again...

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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The reason that it's so cool is that it is a competitive advantage that compounds with experience, which means that as opposed to it's one of a countervailing forces to things get more difficult the further along the ladder that you get, because this is one of the things that you can't speed run. There is no fucking growth hacking experience, really. It comes along as a byproduct of time.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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This is your first tour that you've done with the band. You have no idea how you should eat, how you should sleep, how you should train, when you need to go to the bathroom, how you need to pack everything. After a while, maybe you've got a system in place, and then after a while, after that, you just do it by feel. And you're like, fuck, that's cool. And it's not replicable.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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It means that competition is... And it's more fun because it doesn't feel like it's this prescribed... top-down dictatorial world. It's this sort of emergent, bottom-up, very uniquely you. And yeah, at least for me, managing that transition has been a difficult one to allow myself to be more free-flowing. But I really appreciate it.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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I appreciate and I'm grateful to me for letting go of some of the more sort of rigorous and rigid and structured ways that I used to do things to now allow me to sort of tap into that experience. So maybe that resonates.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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Yeah, beautiful. I want to talk about something else that I've been kind of conflicted by this year. So a lot of the people listening to the show will know a good friend of mine, a guy called Alex Hormozy. He is very much hard things are hard. That's why they're hard. Stop complaining about them being hard. And I think...

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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his message is is fantastic and it's resonated with me a lot and it's given me an awful lot of resilience in times when i've needed it uh but i'm not convinced that it is a fuel that i need to rely on all the time and i'm interested in alchemizing something different or maybe just having a couple of different fuel sources you know switching between fucking coal and nuclear or whatever yeah

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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And I came across a really gorgeous quote from you that said, Puritanism went beyond embracing the hard. It extended to also distrusting the easy. And I think for the people who take pride and pleasure and meaning and purpose from deploying the hard, from leaning into the hard, from dealing with it, and they say, I can do things other people can't.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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And I can put my nose to the grindstone and I will keep going and I'm going to carry the boats and so on. That... the distrust of the easy comes along for the ride. So I'm interested in that arc and how a micro David Goggins can learn to trust the easy and have a little bit more comfort when things come along like that.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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in your perspective on essentialism over the last 10 years it's 10th anniversary 10th birthday party um for what for me is one of the five books that everybody needs to read this hundred book reading list thing that i've been pushing for forever um yours yours is sat in that top five like absolute you have to get this done and um but i mean i'm i'm interested you're a decade hence now what's what's changed or what's evolved what's evolved

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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Yeah, it's fascinating. This has been something that's really captured me this year. I think most people probably need to hear David Goggins screaming in their face to go harder, as opposed to Greg McKeown whispering in their ear that they're already enough, on average. And reliably, working harder will make pretty much all problems go away in one form or another.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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But they will make problems go away in the only way the problems can be judged, outwardly. It'll achieve more success. It'll get you more renown. It'll get you all of these things. But you might be totally fucking miserable and joyless when you're doing it. And what happens over a long enough timeline? What are the prices that you need to pay for that? What relationships blow up?

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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What's the risk of burnout? How quickly do you manage to reach the stars, but then you explode upon reentry? You have no ability to do reentry because you are never able to switch off. I'm going to... I'm going to Jamaica for a Sokoku retreat early in the year. So I'm going to do seven days, no phone, no internet, no nothing.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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And that to me, it sounds lovely in advance, but I get the sense that it's maybe going to be like a Navy SEAL hell week when I get there. Like the most opulent version of a Navy SEAL hell week is I'm in Jamaica.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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But I'm really, really obsessed with this idea that not only the distrusting of the easy, not only the sort of inculcation of the hard, but that for the insecure overachiever, it's the precise opposite piece of advice. And on average, maybe more people need to hear it.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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Maybe more people need to hear somebody telling them that they're lazy and that they're sat on the couch and they need to go to the gym and do the things. But for the sort of people that read your work and that listen to this podcast, I really, really want to be a redress to that kind of energy. Look, you need to be able to turn it on and you need to be able to build your capacity to turn it on.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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That's what training is, right? That's what doing the wattage hours on the bike and sitting on there and all the rest of it. but you more than being able to turn it on, you need to turn it off. And I'm a living example of this, man. Like I'm somebody that has not stopped for seven years doing this project.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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And I'm now working harder to learn how to not work hard than I ever learned how to actually work hard because working hard came easily to me. Working not hard is a... It brings up all manner of problems. It brings up all manner of challenges. Who am I? Am I falling behind? Does this matter anymore? What if people forget me? What if I forget me?

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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My self-worth was wrapped up in how much I achieved this day and I haven't achieved that much. Well, you meant to not achieve that much. Ah, yeah, I know, but maybe I can go harder. Is this the difference between me being a bitch or me actually taking some well-deserved time off? And then you go even deeper than that and you say, well, no... Am I taking time off simply so I can come back harder?

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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That doesn't seem like time off. That's not me actually enjoying joy. That's me using joy as an instrumental good toward another instrumental good. I want an inherent good. I want to be able to go away and enjoy this thing for the sake of enjoying this thing, not because I think that Andrew Huberman said a seven-day fucking Sokoku retreat is going to allow me to do. You know, and...

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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These are the challenges. These are the challenges that happen as you get further down the sort of self-growth, self-development journey. And it's... Yeah, they don't get easier. They just get more complex.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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Let's just revisit that now. Again, five years on, everyone can go back and listen to the first episode we did, which was great on essentialism. Second episode we did, which was on effortless. And a lot of things have changed for me since the first time that we spoke.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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And I'm interested to get your perspective, having also presumably watched people be introduced to the approach and then grow over time and end up in different sorts of places. Yeah. What are the challenges in remaining an essentialist as your career progresses, as everything gets more, as you get closer toward the outcomes that you want? Maybe you surpass the outcomes that you want.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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Take me through the things that people are going to encounter.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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Well, the other element is you're learning to say no to things that previously you would have begged to have had the opportunity to say yes to. And for every unit of effort that you put in now, however many years hence, the impact that you have is a thousand times or a hundred times what it would have been in the beginning.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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So you're telling me that the pressure and the implications are greater than it's ever been. And the temptation... uh for distraction is greater than it's ever been right and my resilience is going to be pulled on more by more things than it's ever been and i need to do i need to do all of this i need to spin this thing in a nutribolt up to make something that's actually what i want and um

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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Yeah, it's a fascinating challenge. It's a really fascinating challenge. Alex talks about, you know that scene in The Matrix where the woman in the red dress walks past them and Morpheus says, Neil, are you looking at me or are you looking at the woman in the red dress? Turn around. And he says, yeah, you know, you have to learn on the come up to be able to ignore a hypothetical 10.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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He says, yeah, but what about a hypothetical 1000 or what about 1000 hypothetical 1000s? And that's this ever, it's like reverse habituation. You know, you've got the sort of hedonic treadmill. This is like the hedonic. No, you need to be able to ever, ever more sensitively say no to ever more attractive things that look ever more enticing, but you need to continue to be able to say no.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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And then, you know, you actually need to be able to pull the trigger and say, well, maybe this is such a step change. Maybe this speaks to me so much. This is the opportunity that I've been looking for. And all of this needs to occur at once. And to put the icing on the top of the cake, you need to do all of it while no one gives you sympathy.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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While everybody says, well, that's a champagne problem. Oh my God, too many options. How out of touch? It's so unrealistic. Do you not know that people are dying? You don't know that people are in poverty? You go, dude, if you are the sort of person that wants to be successful, this is precisely the sort of problem that you are going to face. The only issue is that you're not facing it right now.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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So yeah, that altogether, that thousand hypothetical one thousands, more impacting you've ever had before, more distraction you've ever had before, more options than you've ever had before, playing at a level that you've never been at, and you still need to be able to say no. It's not easy.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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Just going back to what we were talking about before, this sort of arc from distraction to disorientation. Obviously, we're in a world where technology, social media gives us a lot of access to information. It's very easy to make comparisons about what you should be doing versus what others are doing. And it's kind of like option anxiety in a way.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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How do you recommend sifting through the bullshit and determining what information and advice is actually good or bad for us? Should people just turn it all off? Basically to what degree should we be seeking external influence to determine what's right for us to be putting our efforts into?

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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What an apocalyptic way to end. I love it. Greg McKeown, ladies and gentlemen. Dude, honestly, you've been a huge influence on me. It's so great to have you in my life. It's so great that you put this stuff out and I love the fact you've revisited it. You've got, what have you got? You've got new things, new books, new bits and pieces. What should people go and check out?

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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Yeah. I think the, you know, going into the new year, uh, that planner is, is, is great timing. And, um, you know, I think a lot of people, everyone should go back and listen to the first ever episode that I did with you. I just searched Greg McEwing, uh, modern wisdom, and it will come up. It'd be kind of funny to see how much both of us have changed. You haven't aged, but I don't know.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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I don't know whether either of us have aged actually. Yeah. But I think it's a good time. I think it's really, really good timing. New year, some structure. I'm a big fan of the planner. I've used them a lot. And I've got your new one downstairs. So that'll be the first 90 days of next year. We'll be used to that. Greg, until next time, I'm really excited to see what you write next.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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And like I say, I'm genuinely so thankful that you're in my life. I'm so thankful for the work that you do.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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You must feel prophetic like a British Cassandra sort of seeing in advance.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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Go on, carry on. You know what I mean. You know, you... fuck this book came out 10 years ago this book came out 10 years ago and it's more it's become more relevant over time uh you know like a like a a weather reporter the mayan calendar or something and uh yeah it's just you know it's that's nice It's true.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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And whether it was you just catching a trend early that's then sort of ripped a hold and then got further ahead. But I love that idea of going from distraction to disorientation. And that's not something I'd thought of before, but I think it's pretty accurate because it's not just about our attention being pulled away And the optionality of that, it's the sheer volume.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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And, you know, I always talk about this. There was one day in 2010 or 2011, maybe like January 2011 or something. There was one day where humanity had the right balance of available information to information that we wanted. And then we immediately, you know, for fucking eons, millennia, we wanted more information than we had before.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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And then there was one day around about 2011 when we had it and we immediately fucking smashed through it. And now we're out just in the void, fucking orbiting, orbiting above the earth, just surrounded by information.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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It's a fundamental change that humans have had to go through from being scavengers of information to being discerners of information. You're no longer looking for things. You are choosing between things. And it's a fundamentally different skill. And I think that, you know, that sort of essentialist mindset becomes even more of a prophylactic against that sort of thing.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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as you have to be more discerning as you have to work out is this relevant or not not even how do i get it not even can i focus on the thing that i want but this barrage of different things stimuli information potential goals potential projects am i going to work from home all of the stuff that happened from covid all of those that's optionality that's been opened up hooray that means that there's lots of different ways you can go but boo who has to make the decision you do

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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No, I think it's so right as well that I'm aware talking about success on the internet is one of the least popular things to do because the total addressable market is essentially zero compared with talking about grinding from the ground floor up. But assuming that the people that are into personal development

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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Let's say that somebody isn't familiar with sort of the essentialist framework. Why... And we can do a little brief in a second, but just that reactivity point, what's bad about being reactive? Why does that not fit into an essentialist's worldview?

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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Well, it completely puts you at the mercy of...

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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whatever next comes careening into consciousness right whether it's a notification on your phone whether it's a fear that you've had whether it's memory of the fact that you don't have any bread in the the cupboard uh you know that's that it's the most salient thing and you know the eisenhower matrix of sort of urgent versus important the urgent will always all i mean when i think back to you know when i was really really obsessive about the sort of working on productivity i

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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When I think back to that, the amount of time, months, months that I would put off the important thing, months that I wouldn't do it for. Like the most important thing, which evidently not that important. Well, no, it is. It's just somehow other stuff gets in the way.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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And if you're not careful, and this is something I'm sort of realizing as I grow up and get a little bit older, you don't have an unlimited amount of time to do the important things in your life. You don't have an unlimited amount of time.

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#880 - Greg McKeown - How To Focus On What Matters Most

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and work on themselves and read books like yours that have been hugely formative for me, assuming that their goal is to achieve a level of success, you better fucking future-proof yourself. If the thing that you want to get is there and you know. Maybe it's one of those things that you just don't get to appreciate or believe until you actually arrive there.

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin

Behind the Scenes of Celebrity Real Estate

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Was Diddy your client?

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin

Behind the Scenes of Celebrity Real Estate

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Obviously, he's in the news for horrific stuff. He was also in the news about his real estate recently.

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin

Behind the Scenes of Celebrity Real Estate

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Who's your favorite celebrity to work with? Myself. You think you're a celebrity?

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin

Behind the Scenes of Celebrity Real Estate

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So besides you, you've worked with so many.

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin

Behind the Scenes of Celebrity Real Estate

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Like not a micromanager.

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin

Behind the Scenes of Celebrity Real Estate

336.468

Who's the craziest celebrity? We can bleep it out.

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin

Behind the Scenes of Celebrity Real Estate

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So she basically trashed the house?

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin

Behind the Scenes of Celebrity Real Estate

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How much does she rent this house for? Not enough. So why is it the worst deal you've done?

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin

Behind the Scenes of Celebrity Real Estate

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You personally did that? Yes. And do you still work with her? It's not always the case that being a celebrity will sell your house, right?

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin

Behind the Scenes of Celebrity Real Estate

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You saw the Michael Jordan house in Chicago.

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin

Behind the Scenes of Celebrity Real Estate

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But that's not the only reason you sell a house. That's a lot of times you think of that. Oh, Selena Gomez sold her house and didn't see her. She must be going broke. Or she might be trading up.

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin

Behind the Scenes of Celebrity Real Estate

529.442

What's the biggest super fan you've seen by their idol's house?

Morbid

Episode 631: Case Revisit: The Lady of the Dunes

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Wow. I didn't know it was that long.

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Episode 631: Case Revisit: The Lady of the Dunes

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That's interesting. That's brave.

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Episode 631: Case Revisit: The Lady of the Dunes

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Like, he was in all that shit. He's a real bad guy. He's a real bad guy.

Morbid

Episode 631: Case Revisit: The Lady of the Dunes

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I don't know if it has to do with.

Morbid

Episode 631: Case Revisit: The Lady of the Dunes

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A few miles from the glass spires of midtown Atlanta lies the South River Forest. In 2021 and 2022, the woods became a home to activists from all over the country who gathered to stop the nearby construction of a massive new police training facility, nicknamed Cop City.

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Episode 631: Case Revisit: The Lady of the Dunes

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This is We Came to the Forest, a story about resistance.

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Episode 631: Case Revisit: The Lady of the Dunes

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Love and fellowship. It was probably the happiest of everybody in my life. And the lengths we'll go to protect the things we hold closest to our hearts. Follow We Came to the Forest on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes of We Came to the Forest early and ad-free right now by joining Wondery+.

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Episode 672: The Death of Ken McElroy, The Town Bully

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Understanding what made him tick is exactly the kind of insight I bring on Killer Psyche, where I use my experience profiling criminals for the FBI to uncover what drives people like Ken McElroy to become predators. So if you're curious about the mind behind the mayhem, join me for an inside look at the psychology of a man who got away with everything until he didn't.

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Episode 672: The Death of Ken McElroy, The Town Bully

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Follow Killer Psyche on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Episode 672: The Death of Ken McElroy, The Town Bully

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We continue to find ourselves at an impasse. I'm declaring a mistrial in this case.

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Episode 672: The Death of Ken McElroy, The Town Bully

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Hey, weirdos, if Ash and Elena's episode on Ken McElroy left you wondering how someone could become so cruel, manipulative and untouchable, you'll want to hear my psychological breakdown of this case on my podcast, Killer Psyche. I examined the twisted mindset behind McElroy's reign of terror, how he exploited fear, used charm as a weapon and turned an entire town into his victims.

Morbid

Episode 632: The Suspected Crimes of Guy Muldavin

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At approximately 9 o'clock this morning, as law enforcement was moving through various sectors of the property, an individual without warning shot a Georgia State Patrol trooper.

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Episode 632: The Suspected Crimes of Guy Muldavin

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The abolitionist mission isn't done until every prison is empty and shut down.

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Episode 671: The Murder of Carol Stuart

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Last year, law and crime brought you the trial that captivated the nation. She's accused of hitting her boyfriend, Boston police officer John O'Keefe, with her car. Karen Reid is arrested and charged with second-degree murder. The six-week trial resulted in anything but resolution.

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Episode 671: The Murder of Carol Stuart

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I'm declaring a mistrial in this case. But now the case is back in the spotlight. And one question still lingers. Did Karen Reid kill John O'Keefe? The evidence is overwhelming that Karen Reid is innocent. How does it feel to be a cop killer, Karen? I'm Kristen Thorne, investigative reporter with Law & Crime and host of the podcast, Karen the Retrial. This isn't just a retrial.

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Episode 671: The Murder of Carol Stuart

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It's a second chance at the truth. I have nothing to hide. My life is in the balance, and it shouldn't be.

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Listen to episodes of Karen, The Retrial, exclusively and ad-free on Wondery+.

My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

MFM Minisode 420

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Mm-hmm.

My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

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Thank you.

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Hmm.

Next Level Pros

#133: Increasing 30% year over year with no marketing? Will it still work?

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They have their kids there. They feel safer with us in that kind of context. So on the big, big picture, is $30 million in revenue, getting to 10 cities in three states, and then always providing a full design and build experience where the whole time the client knows, hey, these guys got my back. So that's kind of like who we want to portray at all times.

Next Level Pros

#133: Increasing 30% year over year with no marketing? Will it still work?

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So when you say 10 cities, is that like 10 different locations physically? Yeah. Right. Right. So 10 cities. Yeah. I mean, right now we have Austin and San Antonio and then Dallas is on the works. We actually have a couple of jobs lined up that I'm actually going to go do myself in Dallas just to kind of get the infrastructure kind of set up. But yeah, it's cities right now. So Texas right now.

Next Level Pros

#133: Increasing 30% year over year with no marketing? Will it still work?

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You do your job and then, I mean, you're not going to add a second pool to your house or a second deck and outdoor kitchen. So usually clients either are one timers that they do the entire thing or they're like, Hey, my master plan is this. We designed that for them. And then we do like, Hey, phase one this year, they kind of save, get the budget up. And then we come back and do phase two.

Next Level Pros

#133: Increasing 30% year over year with no marketing? Will it still work?

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But in general, it's only one master plan per client.

Next Level Pros

#133: Increasing 30% year over year with no marketing? Will it still work?

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So a lot of the other... Kind of clients do come from a lot of partnerships that we have. We have really good partners who are designers, custom home builders, pool companies that don't do landscape. So we do kind of integrate with other companies and then we're kind of now their go-to for like, hey, I just designed a beautiful $3 million home, but they don't do the landscape.

Next Level Pros

#133: Increasing 30% year over year with no marketing? Will it still work?

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They only do the house. So they're like, hey, Urban Ice has come in, do everything outside, get my COI, and then kind of be good.

Next Level Pros

#133: Increasing 30% year over year with no marketing? Will it still work?

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Well, now with the outskirts. So it is Austin and a one-hour radius. So that allows a lot of cities, not just Austin, just to clarify. But yeah, maybe 1.2 million. San Antonio's even bigger.

Next Level Pros

#133: Increasing 30% year over year with no marketing? Will it still work?

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Like, it's based on revenue. I mean, in my brain, it's like, oh, we can handle that very fast. Right, right. But now it's scary, I think. Yeah, and if you're not used to doing it, it should be scary, right? We have two quadrants unexplored. I'm curious to see, like, hey, if paid quadrant two is the highest ROI, we've never nibbled at it.

Next Level Pros

#133: Increasing 30% year over year with no marketing? Will it still work?

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So, yeah, 58% cost of goods sold, 42%. Got it, got it.

Next Level Pros

#133: Increasing 30% year over year with no marketing? Will it still work?

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understanding your breakeven analysis is so so so important like for example how much how much fixed uh cost do you have that you have to cover every single month right now do you know yeah rick even and actually we got this from daryl that we started like really analyzing our breakeven we're at about 279k 279 000 that's for us to break even okay right so in revenue per month we have to hit 279

Next Level Pros

#133: Increasing 30% year over year with no marketing? Will it still work?

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To be at, I get zero profit. Okay. Got it. Got it.

Next Level Pros

#133: Increasing 30% year over year with no marketing? Will it still work?

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yeah so first of all that's good news good news you thought it was 1.2 and it's 2.7 check Austin I'm sure it's that what's that check Austin oh that was 2.5 Austin like Austin Austin by itself oh it It should be close to that one. Right. But Metro is what you cover, right?

Next Level Pros

#133: Increasing 30% year over year with no marketing? Will it still work?

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I think maybe naturally, yeah, I think it happens, right? Like, I mean, we just keep progressing and then we're reaching new benchmarks that we've, I mean, never seen or had experience with. So I could see that. Carter and I have never had like issues with like, I mean, Carter and I both worked in our hands and actually did the work ourselves.

Next Level Pros

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Like everything we've asked people to do, we've done in our own kind of landscaping company. Yep. And in general, like, I mean, landscape doesn't really sound too cool, but Corey and I have never really cared about that. Like, we're very low-key, honestly. A lot of people know what we do. For sure. But I could see, like, yeah, it does sound cool for our team to say, hey, we're in 10 cities.

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I think how we did it, I guess, in our own brain and what kind of made sense, we analyze and say, hey, what have we done? That's what we're using as, hey, this is what's true. how we did that is saying, hey, per one city and we did it all by cities and that could be locations or however we I know we talked about maybe doing South Austin, North Austin, but To 3 million, we can get to that.

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How many of those can we do per year? And then if we do that in five years, how many cities could we accomplish? So that's kind of how we ran the math. It wasn't really like, hey, percentage based, I guess, of how we're talking about it. So we just said, hey, with what we have and what we've done in the past, can we replicate that concept? So that's kind of how we did it in our own heads.

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And that's how we did the math on the 30 million.

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You can't pass the management. Yeah, that's a good point. And I guess in our heads, we've never been tied to something. If you had this conversation with us two years ago, we probably would have had a different answer. So we're also not super attached, especially us and I working with Chris and Daryl also through the program I'm with you guys. has really changed our approach.

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So we've never really been tied down to it. Our big concept is just saying, hey, how do we make landscaping a real business and a kind of corporation, not just like, hey, go do, yeah, go do grass, I guess.

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Especially if you're just one thing to on our side. Like I said, this conversation just. in general, has grown crazy from when we first started to where we're going. Because right now, like, cars closing, hopefully, like, a huge deal that we've never really messed with on the commercial side, which we know how to do it.

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I mean, we've done commercial, like, it's just the high ticket price, which I guess would be, like, the higher end in fruits. If we do that, then next year we might already be in $12 million in Austin if that does hit. So how do we also calculate that? We're just kind of going with... With the curve, I guess. Yeah, yeah.

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Right. Yeah. That's actually our plan. Cause we've never really explored it. Like what you're saying, like, Hey, I mean, if, yeah, we're soon be spending 30 to 60 or whatever, 25 to 50 K a month. Right. Cause next year, hopefully revenue goes up then. Yeah. Where can we go? I mean, that's what I was saying. Like we just, it's hard to plan when it just changes so fast.

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Cause what if that quadrant two, pushes more than Quadrant 4.

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Like, let's face it, on revenue, I mean, in my brain, it's like, oh, we can handle that very fast. Right, right. But now it's scary to think about.

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right so maybe that's another thing because now and that's another challenge okay yeah let's try that but then what do we need more sales guys right right we only have three people right now that do that so so like need for that so when i when i see this business like i get stoked i'm like 30 million let's do that at one location you know like

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Have you guys thought through a lot of this? I think for us, one thing that we've always struggled with, and we actually hired a couple of people to kind of help us mentorship side and just like more finance oriented, is we've noticed revenue per month dictates that margin a lot. Because at a certain benchmark, I guess it's similar to maximizing our current team.

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Because I feel like our current team can still manage, say, upwards to like 700. So if we did that... even adding the 20%, I feel like it would still be a higher margin than what it is today. Once we kind of pass the highest maximum point, then yeah, maybe it is charging higher prices. We're just kind of like stuck in that point, like at what point should we do that?

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Right, like if we maybe had the same team

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I think for me personally, the biggest one I would definitely say is the, uh, 10 cities, uh, Yeah, sounds cool. I feel like definitely changing the mentality of what that means. I guess it's more revenue-oriented should be our goal. And then how do we achieve that? By dive deep into what we have.

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It does make a lot of sense for us to probably be in maybe three cities that are very close by, which would be probably Dallas, San Antonio, and Austin. So maybe being the best in Texas is better than being okay in three cities or three states. So I feel like for me, just talking on this conversation, really knowing...

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what goal should be based on data or like logic instead of just like numbers out.

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Also, we're super blessed that we have Texas being crazy right now with a bunch of people moving into the city, becoming one of the biggest cities in the U.S.

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Yeah, it might be easier if we're saying that we have two quadrants unexplored. I'm curious to see like, hey, if paid quadrant two is the highest ROI, we've never nibbled at it. Yeah. What does that mean if we actually put a lot of our time and focus into quadrant two? Right.

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And then back to Daryl's point, like it's a domino effect because we pay marketing to get clients, but then those clients are going to do our same concept, which is referrals. So it really is a domino effect. So I am very curious on that, which we've never explored. We have since we've been working with you guys. We really like dive deep into like not just our own personal knowledge that we have.

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What does that mean if we actually put a lot of our time and focus into quadrant two? And then back to Daryl's point, it's a domino effect because we pay marketing to get clients, but then those clients are going to do our same concept, which is referrals. So it really is a domino effect. So I am very curious on that.

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Yeah. We're just like trying to put ourselves back and say, hey, I mean, yeah, we I studied entrepreneurship in A&M, but. I mean, they taught me some stuff on books. No one has taught me anything based on like actually growing a business besides you guys. So, appreciate it. Excited to see that.

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It's been a crazy journey because I've been listening to it for a long time and then super lucky and blessed to be now part of the inside of the group. And I guess the biggest thing that I've learned personally, I've been the one kind of exploring. I have always been more of the explorer and Carter's more like structured. I'm always like everywhere. He's like, keep it linear and clean.

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But yeah, on my end, it's just like one talking to people that are done what we want to do is one having mentors is extremely important saying hey can i just talk to somebody about it because right now like carter and i just talk about it but both of us are in there i guess in the same level echo chamber right echo chamber so yeah

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So, yeah, having that kind of like guidance, mentorship is a big one. And then having specific things of like, hey, do you even have this? And then knowing what that actually means. Because in our head, we go, oh, yeah, marketing. We think putting signs out is marketing, but that's not even the tip of the iceberg.

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So I guess understanding fully that and being part of this amazing group, like just seeing like.

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real change and like outcome really motivates like starting our culture with our own team and seeing the team respond back to it just kind of keeps making me want to do more about it so love it yeah those are probably the biggest things right now culture has been my number one focus and it's been amazing so Awesome.

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So I guess the biggest thing I've learned is just saying like, hey, who is Urban Oasis on outside facing and inward facing? We've always really pushed on like, hey, Urban Oasis to clients is like this clean, perfect communication, best outcome on their design and build.

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But we haven't really focused too much on the inside team, which now every time I talk to some of the guys on the team, it's just work-related. I don't even know about their family. Some of them are getting married, having kids. And now everybody knowing each other outside of work has really made us tighter. And then the second thing is having...

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people knowing our mission, vision, our core values. That's something I just integrated maybe three months ago. And now every time we do our meetings or Google Meets, now the employees know it. And probably the coolest thing out of everything, to wrap it up, is I have an executive assistant who now helps me, I guess, employing new people.

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And now he's pitching what I pitched him, which is the same core values, the mission statement and the vision. So now people like saying that, like without me even saying it. It was awesome too. So cool. Like having a nice little replication of yourself. Right, right. So I was like, dang, that's cool. Like he's like now me.

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And it was really lucky, honestly, because we just had really good vibes. Just, hey, we do good work. I mean, we're just trying to be outside, really, because everything was indoors and we hate being indoors. So we started doing that and then what really kind of...

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universe anything that you can call it luck really brought us into this lady who posted and then that's what went viral is her post and then at that point when we had people calling we're like well maybe this could be a real business but we still at that point didn't know if it was or not until we started actually like doing more jobs starting to see a little bit more money come in we posted on our personal instagram was like hey who from who's here from our high school pretty much so we started getting people up

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So we actually started in summer of 2020. So for those six month period, it was about like. almost 400k for the first six months. And then I guess if you would call that year one, that would be around that much because we only had the last six months of the year. And at what point did you decide, hey, this is a real business and we're going to start working on it?

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It was kind of honestly natural organic growth that we first had because we were starting to see money that at that point we've never seen before. So we're like, getting 40 grand a month and we're like, whoa, this is nice. What else can we do with it? The more we grew was more people called, more services were into us.

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And Cardinal have always been entrepreneurs literally since, I mean, in high school we were 13 years old cutting grass instead of going to the mall. So that whole time, we've always had that back end entrepreneur. We've had other businesses that didn't work with COVID. But in our head, we saw landscaping, not just like, oh, go work outside. We saw like, hey, it could be a business.

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How do we actually like make it into something bigger than that?

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It's probably maybe probably March 2021. really started really kind of cooking up where we're now hitting, at that point, maybe 80k per month. And then we're having a lot of people come in. So at this point, maybe we have 10 people, Carter and I are still

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doing the labor and managing the jobs ordering material doing all that stuff but uh i would say that around that point i know exactly when we hit 100k on our first month which i think was may 2021 so it's our first 100k month when you're doing this i mean you guys are doing you guys are the sales people labor the everything right right yeah so you guys are making quite a bit of this is just turning a profit

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Yeah, it was a lot of trial and error for sure at the beginning, just like knowing new services. I mean, not knowing the first maybe two years was only landscape. So it wasn't too much crazy stuff. I mean, it's not rocket science. I mean, hey, put soil inside. Like we learned that on YouTube and it was pretty easy to do.

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But I've always had a really good personality on like really like talking to people. And since I speak English and Spanish. I was able to like really navigate into like finding guys to like really know what they're doing. So at one point we had two guys that really know everything about landscaping. Like they would do that in their own, but they didn't know sales.

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So that's when we kind of started seeing like, hey, this is a big niche, especially in Texas. There's so much work. Some houses are huge over there. So. these guys know what they're doing. Carter and I are always been entrepreneurs and that kind of merged us into like, Hey, let's get new services. How do we get that? Well, let me talk to everybody.

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So I'm always talking, talking, talking, trying to find who does the right kind of service. And that's kind of where it started.

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So our team right now, we have about 21 people that work with us. We now have architects, head designers, accountants, finance managers, just a lot of internal kind of back-end team members. And then we work with a lot of contractors and subcontractors. So on a weekly basis, we work with maybe 50 people per week.

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I would say from my end, I do a lot of the admin work. One is getting the right kind of people into the team. We actually had maybe two or three hires that we just got into three months ago that we thought were going to be a great fit. But now actually seeing them implemented into the team, they just didn't work out.

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So finding the right people that would stay because we wanted them to stay, it was, as I said, it's been pretty challenging.

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So thank you so much for being here with us, too. Very excited to be here. Carter and I just flew in from Austin at a 4 a.m. flight. But yeah, so we Urban Oasis, we actually do design and build. So it started more of a landscaping and we've built it out to do outdoor construction. In general, that's what it's at now.

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Plus now our infrastructure is able to hold that. Like we have now internal designers, architects. Now we can incorporate pools into our projects, which that's a huge revenue change for us next year that we haven't done.

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anything yet on that so we're excited for that and then uh yeah on the challenges side yeah like smaller jobs have been pretty hard to handle just because of it's limited time that we have now like hey there's a hundred people that are interested from that maybe a couple say yes but how many can we actually fit to carter's point like it's getting harder and harder to yeah we need another crew okay that means another truck another trailer another foreman we need more actual actual labor in the

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Yeah, we actually talk about this and we have meetings with our team to kind of always go over that and emphasize it. But our biggest, biggest mission for the next five years, we do have like a one, three and five. But for the five year, we want to be in 30 million revenue is where we're targeting and expanding to three states, 10 cities. So that's kind of like our big picture plan. Yeah.

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on how to grow that and then who we are in general like we have a ton of really really good reviews on the experience that we provide to the client is a lot different so when we first started and kind of answer the question is contractors in general and I'm talking in Texas because that's kind of where we're at has always been very like of a negative connotation where No one texts you back.

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You have to text three people and then only one answers and then they show up late. Our whole, whole entire mission since we started, which is why we really grow, has been our communication is literally on point every time. If we say, hey, our ETA is 1.05 p.m., we show up literally at 1.05 and we're there on time. We text the clients. We're always there. So the whole experience they get from...

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one, that communication and two, the team that we actually like are growing are all very similar to us. Like we all have very similar values. Our energies are the same, very clean and presentable as always we try to do. So I feel like clients, especially high end clients, feel really comfortable us being in their house for two months. I mean, these are very wealthy people.

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But that's what she thinks.

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Okay, okay.

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Can I ask you something? You just reminded me, because when you play Rocket League with your brother and two close friends, every week usually, you are out here making – and this is our garage converted into a studio – Playing and making the most intense noises that I'm concerned that the neighbors think. I mean, it could be that you're killing someone.

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Could be that we're in like a domestic dispute.

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No, that you're you would be the aggressor. Mit diesen Geräuschen?

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Okay.

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Say, hey.

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Hey, sorry if I was really loud last night.

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It's a soccer game where you play with monster trucks.

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Okay, so another thing that you told me about recently, because while we were editing that thing, actually that very morning, you had bought these little tiny blueberry muffins and you brought some out and you said, I'm not going to have them now because I want to reward myself after we get through a certain amount of this as a treat.

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And it was really interesting to me because I didn't know how much you used food as a reward. And you told me that for Rocket League, you don't allow yourself access to your treat that you bring out until you score a goal.

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And then, oh, so it's always after goals. How have you played games where you just really haven't gotten to them?

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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And you deserve.

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Right? Yeah, I guess so.

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I know you do, but, well, this brings us to, like, something that is pervasive, I'd say, in our family and another family that we're close with, where I had to put the kibosh on this, but it used to be, like, Christmas morning.

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Okay. I am thrilled to talk to you for an hour, so no one's listening, as we do, but is anyone listening?

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Mm-hmm.

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everyone doles out their presents, you always wanted to be the last one to open the present. So you would skip rounds, because we go around and have people open their presents.

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Well, I understand why you're doing it. It is linked to delayed gratification, but it's really annoying. It seems a little bit like you have to be the last one...

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Yeah, but do you see that then you're making everyone else finish and have to watch you open the presents?

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Well, I think usually, I think it's fine for you to link up with me, but I think usually the last few rounds are just basically the kids. Of course, of course. Anyway, delayed gratification for me with food. Das ist nicht etwas, was ich tue.

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Na, kann ich dir etwas sagen?

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Na, ich... Es ist seltsam. Ich bin so, kann ich das machen? Weil ich einfach keine Willenskraft habe, im Grunde.

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Do you do that? Yes, yes, yes. I'll do something like that. Or like after this meeting, I'm going to go get something.

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Okay.

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But it also, I feel like the Rocket League thing that you're talking about has like, it's a little bit triggering to me of like eating disorder. Not saying for you, but for me. That sort of thing where you're delirious.

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Ja, ja. Aber ich mag es für dich.

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You know what I do? Let's say there's a cinnamon roll. Yes. I don't even really like the outside of a cinnamon roll.

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Okay.

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But I will eat it. This is not a good example because you go from the outside in. But I won't cut into the middle and eat the middle part, even though that's the part I like the most. I wait to get to the middle.

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Wie so?

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Das ist die Part, die ich mag.

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It turns out no one really cares about corpse play.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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We can talk about it left and right.

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Okay.

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Okay, okay.

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So, core. If there are three, my only beef is the outer part. If there are four, it might be the last two layers.

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Here's a question for you. When you chop an onion...

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Ja.

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Ja, ja, ja. Then you cut through one of the sides and you take off the outer layers and like kind of just wherever, whatever layers want to come off, you get rid of. Because those are going to be like tougher maybe.

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Seems a little wasteful to me, but that's what I was taught. Like just let it go if those don't want to be there. Is that how you do it?

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With blueberries. Nice. And there was, I think that she honestly was doing the whipped cream wrong. Like you have to turn all the way upside down, whatever. And so it was coming out kind of soupy.

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Yeah.

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And she was like, oh, it's soupy. And then she was like, is it okay? What's the date? And the mom made it clear that there's been kind of an obsession with dates. And I was like, oh, do I relate? You have no idea.

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cannot be within like a couple days of the date or it's out and i know that's so wasteful but you know you've experienced a flip side that the tone in your voice when you just said that was like the most insincere way of saying that like honestly but go on Yeah, I'm just like, don't fuck around with that.

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We just carry on with our lives. We usually, honestly...

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And I think it was my professor at Miami of Ohio on infectious diseases, who, I wish I remembered his name, because he was a really good professor, but really put the fear of God of like botulism and all of those salmonella, all of it, you don't want to fuck around with that.

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They don't.

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No, I don't think so. Have you seen those kitchens or like labs?

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I really don't. I think food poisoning comes from improperly stored food, food stored too long that's being used.

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Cross-contamination.

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You know, Anthony Bourdain used to say like, yeah, cross-contamination, things dripping on things. Anthony Bourdain hat gesagt, wenn die Omelette am Sonntagabend Lobster und Zucchini, ich weiß nicht, das geht wahrscheinlich nicht zusammen, aber du willst das nicht, weil es ist wie das verlegte Lobster, das nicht gekauft wurde während der Woche.

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I mean, I've talked plenty about my bladder. How so? Kidney stones. Prolapse.

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Ja.

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Can I go through something I found on Instagram? This is so dumb.

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But it reminded me of your I don't get my treat until I score a goal. Yeah. This is from Ali Milne on Instagram. She said, I recently saw a TikTok where a woman asked, Girlies, what are some things you do to be more whimsical? I love knowing about cute little habits. And I've never loved a comment section more. Here's some of her faves. Okay.

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I wear matching pajamas every time I change my sheets so I can have what I call fancy sleep. Adorable. Oh, good lord. A friend made me joyous taxidermy. Oh wait, that's too cute.

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Taxidermied Raccoons out of roadkill and I create happy scenes of them on adventures using American doll props. Wow, okay. I hold office hours every Tuesday at a local coffee shop, which means I sit on the couch and order drinks for four to five hours while various friends and acquaintances visit me to yap about books and gossip. That sounds lovely, like you're holding court.

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Yeah. In my case it is. Can be.

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If I want to have negative thoughts about myself, I have to think about them in a cockney accent. I love that. Oi!

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Your piss stream is pitiful.

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I say my lady whenever I walk by a mirror. My lady. I teach the dog how to do things either to make them more interesting for me, like let me show you how to start a load of laundry, or just to make him feel included. Do you remember how to make coffee? I should walk you through it again. That's very cute. Wow. I tell my dishes it's bath time.

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This is something I want to implement. Whenever I drop or fuck something up when I'm alone, I bow and say and seen instead of getting frustrated.

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This one I find very annoying.

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I like drinking water at night out of small wooden bowls. It makes me feel like I'm being nursed back to health by spirits.

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I tell my hamster not to answer the door for anyone before I leave.

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That one's good. I wash dishes by candlelight listening to medieval tavern music and pretend I'm a tavern wench.

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I call my to-do list my ta-da list. Oh, this is going to really upset you. And do jazz hands as I tick things off. I don't believe that one. So stupid. I also don't believe this one. Whenever I buy something online and it asks, is this a gift, I write a little gift message to myself. Usually along the lines of, you are awesome and deserve these little treats.

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Oh boy.

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I don't think it's real.

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No. Okay. Okay, well, this is fun.

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Yes, it is like a trickling stream through a wooded forest where maybe it's not normally a stream, but snow just melted. And so it's just kind of like creating its own path.

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Oh my God, did I?

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In Idaho?

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Wo würden die gehen? Ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass deine Eltern aus der Stadt gehen würden.

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Stop doing coke in the bathroom, guys.

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Who would have, honestly, who would have let you, as you were then, of course now, of course.

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But... Would you get in his hot tub?

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Okay. Carry on.

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How did he not catch wind of it?

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Was it when he was in the wheelchair?

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Wait, how did you get it back to working?

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I mean, I ask you a question.

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Wait, did you enjoy the party or were you stressed out by how, like, had it gotten, were you hoping to have that kind of party or did it get, were you out over your skis and realized during the party or?

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And then that morning you woke up and were like, oh, no. So you had a few more days.

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And did that not come back around to that teacher with like high school kids going, man, I had so much fun at your house.

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You know, it just, as an adult, it makes me nervous thinking that someone else's like DNA could be in my DNA. Okay, warte einen Moment. Warte, warte. Was hast du gemacht?

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Um, you know, well, he's kind of checked out. Let's start there. He's gone to the doctor a couple of times.

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Yeah, I mean, kind of.

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Well, it's weird. Kids were making out in your car that you're a teacher.

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Yeah, well, horrible things happen and then people are looked at.

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Oh, okay.

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Bad plan.

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The teachers, just in your scenario... Okay, well, I'm also working with a teacher who's like inviting kids over to be in his hot tub.

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Well, I've thought about that because... Ich würde sagen, in den letzten zehn Jahren bin ich ein bisschen mehr in das echte Krimi-Stuff eingegangen und habe gehört, dass ich in den Krimi-Lab hier in L.A. ging und gesehen habe, wie DNA getestet wird und wie sie dieses Ding machen. Und

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realized that nine years ago i gave birth in a car okay um and it was a leased vehicle and we just turned that lease right in having not really i mean my dna and blood is all over that car because there was a a crime scene of its own in that car Was ist das Szenario? Mhm. Mhm. It's O positive and we don't know much else.

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No, I wouldn't. I would say it's. I'm always kind of worried when I hear it. It's like, it feels, what your stream sounds like to me, is that just gravity is doing the job for you. There's no muscle behind it. Whereas I'm like forcing out the pee.

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They can't estimate the date. Of course they can. Not like that. Not like it was, it was winter of 2015.

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Wait, I should text. Oh, wait, take her name out.

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The date. Should I do a private browser?

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Well, what? The date of a crime based on 10-year-old blood.

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Yes.

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Das ist ein guter Punkt.

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And we've talked about how I get... Don't even fucking get me started.

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I think I can take it.

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I'll be gentle. No, you don't have to be, actually. Okay. Are you saying that out of self-punishment? Could you feel that? Yes. Okay. Okay.

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Well, no, I wouldn't be up texting, but I actually don't believe, I'm so sorry, that that is playing a big factor.

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Yes, which I think is, in your defense, very much linked to ADHD.

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Did you look back to see why he texted that? Like, were you like, oh, I haven't texted him back.

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Well, that's good. That's a lesson you learned. Here's my thoughts on it in relation to you. I think a lot of people, especially... I feel this way. My relationship with a lot of people I care about is now a text relationship. Even though I wish it weren't. In fact, a friend called me last week. We had a phone call and it was so nice. And I was like, I miss this.

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But I think that you view text exchanges almost kind of differently. Unless it's like you're in the throes of it and it's something playful back and forth. It kind of goes out of sight, out of mind for you. Which I do want to point out, and I relate to this actually too now more, especially we're in a situation with someone who should be texting us back a lot that never responds to my texts.

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Every time I get up in the middle of the night and I go. And I also sometimes know that you're probably listening. And I go, I'll like stop it. And then I'll start it again.

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And this is someone who's like, how do I put this? Es ist wie eine Geschäftssituation.

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Und es fängt mich verdammt an.

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Es ist jedes Mal. Und wenn du textest, bekommst du meistens eine Antwort, und das ist mir sehr furchtbar. Und es fängt mich wirklich, wirklich verdammt an. Und ich nehme es persönlich. Ja. Very personally. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Disrespect. Yes. But when it comes to friendships, I think you kind of just have this other view of it.

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But that's where it should be taken maybe more personally as you're learning. But I think it should be eye-opening. Of course, I understand that you feel bad. And I'm assuming that you made clear to your friend how much he means to you.

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But I think, obviously, moving forward, the lesson is, like, I need to be a little bit more... There actually have been times recently where we're on a group text. And I'm like, this is something Andy needs to weigh in on. And you'll even say something to me about it. Like, oh, that was so funny when so and so. Or wasn't that a cool thing they sent? But you're not weighing in.

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I'll have to kind of walk you through. You need to text back. And I do think it's ADHD.

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Ja. No, because I think that's going to catch up with you pretty soon here. I do... You know what I am jealous of you of? I have this condition, and listeners have said maybe it's asthma. I have tried taking my inhaler before we record, but even last night being with my friends playing Mahjong, when I laugh really hard, I then get very phlegmy, like lung.

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Yeah, especially. Yes, but whatever. The other thing I want you to take away from it, if I may, is to remind yourself that Never, right. Yes, I actually think I've gotten way, way better about it. I somehow have adopted your thing. I...

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And like a good amount of money.

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Well, that to me is different.

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It's also at that point, sorry, but like that's their job. That's their whole, that's the whole reason they're publishing.

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Yeah.

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And so now it's like negligent. It's beyond... This is different from no one's replied for four days and I'm, you know, feeling like not... Totally.

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I want you to be more infuriated and more proactive because there is a lot of money on the line that we could use.

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It's not worth having your day ruined.

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Well, I think this is a good reminder what happened with you and your friend. Like, Ja, ja, ja. Das ist etwas, was mich immer erschreckt, dass in Musik, wie große Rekordlabel, große, große Unternehmen. Ja. Es scheint, als ob du nicht, wie, über die Rückseite wendest, um bezahlt zu werden. Du wirst einfach nicht bezahlt. Es fühlt sich so korrupt an.

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Hi, Andy.

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Whatever.

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Kann ich dir sagen, gerade seit wir hier in Greiptown sind? Ja. Etwas, was ich gehört habe, das ich versuchen muss, ist wirklich hart. Aber es ist wirklich interessant. Ich habe gerade mit einem Freund darüber gesprochen, wie die Dinge ein bisschen nach unten fühlen. Aber ich fühle mich auch viel mehr im Fluss des Universums. Ich versuche viel weniger zu kämpfen. Oh boy, let's hear it. Okay.

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Well...

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And I have a follow up to it.

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What if it's not happening to you? It's happening for you. So that's exactly the reaction. So anyway, Andy, I know that's so annoying.

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And I will, you know, this also, this doesn't mean, let's use this publishing company example, that you're not just going, oh, you know what, this sucks, but it's happening for me, so I'm not going to be proactive. Of course you should respond to things and, you know, that doesn't mean that you're just laying over going, well, let anything happen to me because it's really for me. I don't think.

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That's not how I interpret this.

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Yeah.

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But it's more about, to me, it's more just being adaptable to the things in life and not letting them, for example, ruin your day. Yeah. And just going, there's a lesson to be learned from this. In your case, the lesson is, I need to be more responsive. Or maybe I don't need to be so reactive when this happens to me in this other part of my life. Or whatever it is.

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And I'm really trying to adopt that.

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Okay.

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In our interactions sometimes, when something happens, you'll like apologize and you move on pretty quickly. Whereas I feel like I can turn it into a whole other thing. Whereas I think of you as a person who... will make a mistake and then acknowledge it and then carry on with your life without any guilt.

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But I think because this is a tender part of your heart, this is a very close friend who you really care about, I think your reaction to it speaks to what a good friend you are and how much you do care.

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And I think you are a really good friend.

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Oh, I'm also, I'm jealous that you are not allergic to cold. I'm jealous that you don't have a Schatzky's ring on your esophagus.

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One is your brother.

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One of them is your brother.

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Yes.

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Yeah. Whereas I'm too much of a thirsty puppy.

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With my friends.

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Oh, sure.

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Yes. June, who's one of my best friends of all time, and Jessica, who I love so much and I wish I saw more of.

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Yeah.

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So I love that podcast so much. I love both of them. They can make, they're one of, Ja. It's so funny about me. I mean, it's kind of ribbing me, but in the most loving way. And it ultimately is the most complimentary thing ever. And for them to have done it and just put it like June was like, I can't believe I didn't ask you if it was okay. But I was like, no, thank I needed that in that moment.

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And I'm like, I'm going to go back and listen to those anytime I'm feeling down about myself. But it is interesting because. And that came right when I was feeling a little bit insecure about friendships. Oh! Because, so, I did play Mahjong last night, but it's been a long time, like after the New Year and fires and everything, the Mahjong... Interessant. Ja.

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Hey, they happen to be together and whatever. And so that warmed my heart and also like pulled me out of this stupid, self-created insecurity spiral that I realized my lesson in that is like. None of that shit's ever true. None of that stuff that you're thinking. I mean, sometimes it is. But what a beautiful gift.

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All right. Well, I think we did it.

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Good night.

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Okay.

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So this is the woman who cleans our house twice a month. We love her. She's been with us for 15 years. She's watched both of our children grow up. And we respect her a lot. She's older than us. She's very sweet and loving, but also like I think more conservative than we are probably. And so I am always embarrassed.

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You know, there's a sex in the city where the housekeeper is finding her sex toys and putting them out and stuff like that.

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Like to let her know that she's seeing it or like washing, I don't know. It's been a minute. So I always think about how our sweet cleaning person... So she's not finding...

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You look funny.

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Although I do, like, we have a small house. Everything goes where it goes, you know. I don't know what all she's finding that is... What about my white cotton gloves? Well, that's the one. You're leaving those fucking things out and about all around with a huge tub of Vaseline that's got Vaseline smeared all over it. And it is so grotesque. And we were having people over. I think even St.

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Monica was coming over something. And I was like, you must put those... Little cotton white gloves next to the, like, that are all, like, globulated with Vaseline and then the Vaseline's next to it. They're good for my dry hands. You put Vaseline on your hands, I think, too much, and then you put the gloves on and it overnight, like, helps the Vaseline soak into your hands.

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But it looks very freaky.

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I do, but... And also you leave the jar with Vaseline all over the outside of it.

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Why?

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Okay.

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No, but you have days and days afterwards to do it. I mean...

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But why? Because any other reason for it would be just as far-fetched as a sexual reason.

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Someone likes to put fucking white gloves on to jack off.

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You look like an alien. Oh my God, it's like those snails that got zombified that we talked about on Nobody's News. You look like an alien took over your body and is trying to make the face that humans make.

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Okay.

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So say what happened to us.

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Andy's editing something. It's something that we're very excited about.

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And it's like taking over our lives right now, which is also exciting. But we're in a crunch, like we want to get this thing going. And so Andy was editing and our cleaning person comes out to where the studio is to use a laundry machine. So she's coming in and out, in and out.

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I come out, because I'm sitting down to edit with Andy, and every... And you also turn the volume way up, because right now you're editing for audio stuff, so you need to really hear it.

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And the words that were like, every time Mari would walk in, the word... Ja, es war Vagina. Es war Vagina über und über. Over and over. Vagina. Vagina. Vagina. And I was like, Andy, turn it down. Turn it down. And then you turn it down and then you go to a new place and you're just guessing where you're starting. And you press play and turn it up.

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Our cleaning person now thinks, first of all, I know she goes, what the fuck do these people do? Like, Elizabeth's... Sometimes she hears me... Does she work? Does she not work? I don't know. She, you know, then she's like, he's back there in that studio doing God knows what.

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What is happening?

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Yeah.

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We're very close to being able to announce it, so this is kind of an annoying thing. Annoying tease. But it's soon.

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Just act human. Be normal.

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And it's nuck and futz.

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Okay.

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When you report back to the mothership, you want to let them know that you did a good job.

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We know. I mean, every time she comes, it's around the time.

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This is horrific to me.

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Because, first of all, you have such a little awareness of... Like, for example, you often have a little bottle of Luberderm out here on your desk because you get dry hands and you... Ich denke, Sie legen Luperderm auf Ihre Hände. Nur um klar zu sein. But I'm horrified because for you to clock it and go, oh, this probably sounds bad. I'm like, I know it sounds 10 times worse.

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And I know that our sweet, sweet gal is, her whole perception of us, like all of everything we've built up with her, the goodwill of her 15 years has just been smashed to smithereens in one fell swoop of one morning. Now, you did make a good point. It's out of our hands. Like the vagina compilation series that she was hearing.

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Okay. Well, anyway, I'm going to be so humiliated.

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Like, she might, yeah, yeah. Andy, no woman is going, that's cool, that a 45-year-old man is listening to horror sex.

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Yeah, I think so.

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And I don't think it was as magical for him as Billie Eilish was for our daughter. Sure. But I like to see stuff that I- I couldn't have seen that coming.

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I like seeing stuff that I like or, or something that's like really of the moment. Maybe I don't completely understand it, but if it's like of the moment and good, it's pretty magical. This be in a environment like that with crazy fans. Cause it is like a communal experience, which is interesting. So I'm down in that regard. But yeah, in general, I heard, I was listening to, um,

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can't think of the name of it but tim heidecker's podcast with uh from tim and eric but he was talking i can't even believe he like told this story on the podcast but it was so funny and he's like should i say this or should i not but he gets invited to go see lcd sound system by the main guy from lcd sound system okay i too was invited to that concert by who That's great.

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So he goes, he says he gets there too early. What am I thinking? I got to listen to all these opening bands. No offense to the opening bands. Then he's looking around and he's in the VIP section. And he said, and I realized I'm not going to stay here for the entire concert.

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And then he thought, well, if I'm not going to be here for the entire time, like I'm not going to go see the main guy after the show.

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I can leave whenever. And that, like, we've had that experience.

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And that's, I mean, I think that's such a middle-aged freeing situation where it's like, oh, we're leaving right now because it doesn't matter if I stay or not stay.

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Was she with anyone else?

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So then you left her on her lonesome to like go backstage.

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I was going to say the backstage of it all, too. We've both been backstage many times.

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People don't want you there.

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After the show, you're fucking... Now, there might be some anomalies that people like it.

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You're standing backstage with all the other people that want to say hi and everyone's kind of waiting for their moment to say hi. So everyone's awkwardly standing around. I hate it. It's not for me.

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Yeah, that's so nice.

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Oh, can you imagine if... we could go out to eat whenever we wanted. That'd be fun.

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Oh, sick. But you don't think it's the same lady?

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If we were in a situation where we could afford that too, I think it would be a nice tradition to go out to dinner with the family once a week.

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Like Friday nights we go out and get a little ice cream after. How fun would that be?

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Tell us how bored they are. And then they go watch more TV.

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Those are the three things. And homework.

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La Crescenta or La Cañada?

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It's a rose garden. It feels more organic, though.

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You notice all those paintings were the same size in that one room?

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Was that like a typical size back then?

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Because that was really interesting.

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Because... I don't know. Maybe. That's kind of odd, though. I don't think so. Yeah. And then you're like, I'm now going to do stained glass. You just started with oil painting, one step at a time.

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painter wrist they're huge so i'm wondering how they did it they must have been on ladders okay you said that there i'm sorry and it's so dumb like they either use ladders or like scaffolding haven't you ever seen like scaffolds set up in an art studio and people painting and stuff

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Of all the things, how did they paint on a six-foot canvas? That was what was blowing your mind? And you turned to me like, they must have ladders or something. I don't know. It's wild. That's the thing.

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I'd never seen that before. That was incredible.

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Okay. Can we pivot? Can I tell you about something very embarrassing that happened to me?

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Okay. You and I are doing a little housekeeping on our website stuff in general right now.

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We're fixing up the server. We're doing things. We have old.

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You're making this much more real for me again.

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You know, though, stained glass is in my lineage.

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You're going to be humiliated, actually.

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But it's all my fault. You're not implicated in this.

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So part of what we're doing in this housekeeping is cleaning up any old stuff that we don't need, like URLs. Now, over the years, we've bought a lot of URLs.

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Okay? That's like website names.

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Okay, so anyways... They send me this email.

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They send an email. with some details about what we're working on the project. And then there's a list of URLs and they're all, you know, in an email when you get an URL and there's a, it's linked. So they're either, is it blue before you click them and then like purple pink when you do click them?

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So it's a list of them, and they're all those blue links. And then one of them is not linked to, okay? So it's black. It's just regular text. Like, they didn't attach a link to it. But the reason they had this link, they were being nice to be like, check all these out and let us know which ones to do this with, which ones to do that with, basically. Okay.

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Yeah, so I have drrosenrosen.com, right?

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Exactly. Now, we've bought and made some random websites over the years.

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Really? Yeah. Okay. Well, I don't think you know about one website that I made that was a prank to my Rocket League buddies.

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So I'm looking down the list and one of them grabs your eyes because of all the blue. There's one that's black on the list.

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And it's NoBigDicks.live. I'll say that again in case you missed it. NoBigDicks.live. So I'm horrified. I'm horrified. I'm horrified. And it's extra horrifyingified that they didn't hyperlink it because they didn't even they were like, we can't even see what this is. This seems so bad.

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It's in my lineage. It's in my blood.

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Well, if you were to go there, it's gone now. It was just a picture of BDT, like from college. It was, it was, couldn't have been more. Okay. And it happened.

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Now we, during Rocket League.

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My grandfather, my mom's father, great at doing stained glass, was one of his passions. Yeah, Papa Bear. Passion of Papa Bear. Papa Bear's passion. You have a little... It's hard not to when you say Papa Bear passion.

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Okay, okay, okay. We all know. Okay, okay. I think we need to take it easy on that, too.

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It's just been years of it to him, and it's, you know.

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Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Okay.

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don't exactly remember the origin but it happened in one game where we were basically i we just started saying no big dick i can't remember but it became such a thing that i even made a drop that like i hit a button and it'd be like no big dick's not alive and there would be like air horns like on a goal or something it was really some dumb thing okay And then I got on where I get our URLs.

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And for $2.99, I could buy this ridiculous thing. It was $2.99. And then I made a website and it linked to a picture of him. And then for, I would just spam our text thread and no one ever clicked on it. And it was infuriating because no one would click on it.

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No, I think they were clicking on it because they didn't want to click to a bad porno site that would do... I don't even know what they were scared of.

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I felt like it warranted a phone call.

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No, just hold on.

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Because there was a lot of information in this email, and I didn't even know how to respond. So I wrote to Gabe, hey, are you free to hop on a call to go over this?

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Hold on, hold on, hold on. So... I don't know whether to lead with NoBigDicks.live or... Are you free to hop on a phone call is what you wrote to address this? Do you want to know exactly what I said?

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I mean, it's all sort of like that. No, but they were asking other questions. It wasn't just what's going on with NoBigDicks.live at all.

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Oh, that's good.

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I think that's really good. I think you might have gone a little far on the like, I promise it wasn't bad.

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Anyway, so we get on a phone call and we start going over the issues. And then, I don't know, in a lull in the conversation or something, I said, oh, and by the way, the NoBigDicks.live, that was a prank from my buddy Travis in Rocket League.

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I think I saw the area where he would do it, but I don't recall ever watching him do it. But I saw the stuff and then he would give us like a new stained glass piece that he made like every time we would see him. So we had a stained glass thing hanging in most of the windows of our house.

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Okay. Thank you. Okay. And Gabe knew who BDT was because BDT actually made a site with them. Oh, cool. And Gabe was like, oh, that's so funny. I know BDT. And he just kind of left it at that. So I think he believed me.

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Oh. Do you think it's worth a follow-up email? No.

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Don't know if you've spoken to Gabe about this. Anyways, yeah, NoBigDicks.live. I don't even, I can't even, I'm like a little bum that I can't completely remember the origin. That like it, I, you know, whatever.

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Anyways, I'm not renewing that URL. If anyone wants to grab it, it's probably available now.

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Yes. I want to be very careful about how we talk about this.

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Yeah, it was cool. And like, what a cool hobby. My brother got into it for a little bit. I wonder, I should see when the last time my brother's done it. I bet that will rekindle for my brother. It's kind of a cool, it's fun.

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You weren't prepared watching a dog show Christmas special to talk about this? No. It wasn't on your to do list with this episode.

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But done in a very like it was done in a very sweet, tasteful way to like it wasn't.

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This is what I'll say about the show. And I want to watch other episodes because do they just go this deep with everybody or do British people just keep it this real?

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Because even with the story of the family that had twins that let's say they're 10 and then there's a daughter, let's say six.

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They hammer the story of... The daughter wants to play with her brothers. Because these boys won't play with her. And you could kind of leave it at that, that statement. But they keep hammering it.

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It really is incredible.

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And also with this tragic story... If I'm producing a dog show, in my mind, it would be like, yes, it's relevant that this dad is getting a dog because he lost his wife. But that's kind of all the info that I need to hear watching a dog show. But they go deep.

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And it didn't feel... It didn't feel tonally off with the show, but it was jarring for us.

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You know how. Slashes. I've said before that. Breaks. Like new churches need to step it up.

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But we skipped over the details. Well, you and I kind of knew the details.

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Because the old school was so impressive, right?

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I don't remember, but we, there was something that happened at my school at one point where it was relevant. And I don't know, I feel like I learned about it at a pretty young age, but I don't remember the conversation with my parents.

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Well, when I was in Boise, I saw a magnificent church.

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I'm really wondering the cultural differences and talking about it for British people versus us. Because there wasn't a warning at the top of that episode, which in America you would have.

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No, I did try calling again today. It seems like our hours are off. I'm going to get a hold of them. I have a list of the office hours now. Please don't forget.

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Very much a family show. Yeah.

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No. We do need to watch more episodes of the show because I'm curious if they just – yeah, I'm curious.

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We sure did on last month's Patreon.

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I got my period.

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I don't want to go too dark.

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I don't. I'm going too dark in my head.

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Yeah, that's in the world I was in for sure. There weren't any shark involved, but that's good. Is that a real fear that if you're swimming, if you get your period, you're more attractive to sharks?

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Have we ever talked about this before?

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I'm in like a deja vu moment.

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When people are in like South Africa and they go on those shark diving things, if any of them are like, sir, I'm on my period today. Is that going to be an issue?

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Do you think they ask that?

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Would you ever call one of your.

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Heavier menstruations chummy?

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I'm going to make a phone call to a church. Don't worry about it. I'm on it. It's on my to-do list. I've tried once. I've called three times. I've realized now that One of the times I called was outside of office hours. The other time was in office hours, but probably during a service. So I don't know how that works, how many people are in the office.

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You can go whenever you taste.

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I can feel it. I hate that.

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You're bleeding out.

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No, say it in itself. You went in with your chummed up jeans to the bar?

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How did you cover it up?

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Oh, that sounds uncomfortable.

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I think I usually just watch the poopy ones.

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It's when marathon runners shit themselves.

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I don't know about that.

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I don't know. I'm not like none of the videos. There's not like a comment that's like, actually, this was me. And I knew this was like, I just let it go on purpose.

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And then the other time I called and they didn't pick up. But I have a list of the office hours now. And they're not traditional nine to five hours, as it were.

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So there's a they have free bleeders.

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Free bleeding videos, too.

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Okay. My algorithm just changed.

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We're ending on this?

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Oh, were you at Trader Joe's?

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I hate that dance so much.

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Oh, so she was doing it.

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I like that style.

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They're a little different when you're dealing with the Lord.

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What was the thing?

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How old was this person?

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Is this the worst thing that's ever happened to you?

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What are the office hours? They're on my phone. I don't know.

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No, you wouldn't have to be 60. You'd have to be 50. Maybe he has kids that are 30. Maybe he had kids in his 20s.

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It is well known that most people, okay, don't like to be... Aged. Aged. It is even more well-known not to gender it, but that's a much bigger no-no with women, right? You just don't do that.

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Here's what I don't know. This is my hope, though, is that just by chance... The question I have to do is about one of the things that the father does during the sermon. Is it a Catholic church? Yeah, it's Catholic.

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Like, burying it in... And he's constantly... Now... If that is what he's doing, did you instantly have a reaction when he then like went 40? Like, did he get the joy of potentially poking the bear?

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Especially because he was being so jolly and friendly.

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But then what would have happened?

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But it would have gotten awkward, potentially.

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No. Be honest. Yeah.

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Hold on. Let me picture that.

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Okay. I'm here. Go on.

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I don't think at your worst you could even take you out of the 40s of you being in your 40s.

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Okay, I don't want you to get- You're lying. No, no, no. Let me be really honest. Okay. I don't want you to get up on a super high horse here. But-

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I don't think, if I'm being really honest, you could pass for mid-30s every single day.

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But do you have days? For sure. For sure.

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No, I want to get my own info first.

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I do think it's pretty funny if it was on purpose. If he is just this kind of little dickhead.

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He just thinks it's funny probably.

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40? It's like a prank phone call sort of. Yeah. But I don't think.

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And you truly think he's like 50? What's the oldest this guy could have been?

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This is specific to this church. Maybe not all, maybe not just this church. It might happen at some others. But I need to ask this church before we talk about it.

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Yeah, it's a way that he conducts his mass.

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No, because we heard a rumor about it.

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And my hope would be, dream of dreams, somehow Father John or whatever picks up the phone.

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Or if he's next to Leslie, is that what you said?

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And Leslie or Janice says, oh, he's right here. You can ask him. And I can be like, tell me about that. Like, what's the deal with why that choice? I'm intrigued.

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I'm not a parishioner.

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It's almost as absurd as you're making it sound, but I think I can execute in a way that it's, like, not weird at all. I think I'm going to say—

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Oh, that feels disingenuous.

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And by the way, a world, any world in which they wouldn't answer this question.

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Oh, well, good. Yeah. Good point. But that's not how I roll. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not looting people. during the riot just because other people are looting. It seems like you're a looter.

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Do you want to know if anyone's listening?

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Wow. I just watched you think of that. You didn't even try to be like, no, of course I wouldn't. You're like, I'll probably loot.

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What the lamest reason not to loot, though?

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Kristen on Spotify commented from last week's episode. Gotta go in for a second. Listen on this one. So many LOL moments. Y'all were the Lulu and I love it.

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No, Target, actually. I make this a little more interesting.

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Before they split up. Your team, Jane.

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You know, that artist I was working with the other day and the mom was here.

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We were talking about shoplifting. I forget how it came up.

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No, no. It was... I can't remember how it came up, but I have my one shoplifting story where I was very young and I shoplifted one of those plastic guards that went on a swatch watch. The alarms went off. The alarms weren't for me. They were for a tag on my mom's clothing. But I learned a lesson not to have a shoplift.

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Whoa, what a twist that would have been. But she didn't even know I did it.

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Unless she was, which case I kind of like, I'm like, well, this gets to the thing that we were all talking at lunch and the mom of this artist was saying, maybe she was saying that a bunch of her friends were shoplifting. And I said, oh my gosh, when I got to college and, I didn't grow up near a mall in high school. The closest mall was an hour, hour and a half away.

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But when I got to college, I knew a lot of girls that shoplifted and a lot of stories of them saying like, oh yeah, in high school, all of us shoplifted.

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Right. Where like, I think adolescent boys, if they were shoplifting, it was you were shoplifting CDs or cigarettes. Yeah. And if you were a girl, you were shoplifting clothes. But I think the shoplifting for girls was much more rampant in that time. It was just surprising to me that you ladies shoplift so much.

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I never heard DeLulu.

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You denounce it.

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You're a sweet Midwest-looking girl.

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I'm not coming, but I'd like to be invited.

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Yeah. Kristen's always growing up, you know? She's growing up. Every Kristen I've ever met is growing up. You know what I mean?

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You are always going to the things.

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I don't like to go to do things, but I would like to be invited. That should be my memoir.

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You think it's my fault?

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I think I understand what you're saying. And I think I was very much in your shoes until – I took our daughter to see Billie Eilish. And then I had the epiphany of like, oh, this is what this is about. Seeing it through the lens of a kid and being tuned back into like current pop culture and seeing the fandom for something like that. It was so cool. So...

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I like going to shows if I really like the band. That's really good. Although that can sometimes be disappointing too.

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That example doesn't make any sense right here.

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But go on, if you want to talk trash about CD5.

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Look her up right now. Let's see.

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It was like a rock venue for eight years.

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Picks and stuff.

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Oh, yes. That go in there. It's all of the lost hopes and dreams of rock stars who moved to Hollywood. It's a place. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

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It's great. Yeah.

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But then maybe just imagine her being like, what the fuck? Right.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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We're going to actually, our banter today is... Just shut the fuck up, okay?

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A design for the hat?

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Great question.

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Are we about to become Boxmoguls?

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Those kids we're talking about. Oh, yes. I thought you meant all redheads.

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That visual is one of my favorite things of all time.

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Don't you think that there's a lot of shady shit going on in funeral homes and stuff?

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Well, listen.

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You're setting me up to fail. Listen, here's what I'm going to say. I'm not condoning this.

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And that's the other thing, and my heart goes out to everyone in L.A., and everyone in the Palisades who has lost their homes. We know Altadena really well, and it is like a very working-class neighborhood. A lot of creatives who are just like us, who, because of the industry contracting, have been struggling financially already. We have friends there who, their homes are still standing.

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I mean, they're not going to be livable because of the smoke and toxins and stuff. But are you going back to this, you're going back to this home where there is no neighborhood around you. It is just... Ich glaube, es sind 7000 Strukturen. Ja. Es braucht einfach Zeit und es ist wirklich hart.

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I feel like Monday night I sent you, we got this warning that was like high crazy wind warning.

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My hope is, I don't know if this producer or the other fire he went through was like, I'd imagine it wasn't on this scale because...

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Yeah. And we were like, okay.

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Because I think that getting federal funding, I know the mayor or city councilwoman from Altadena spoke yesterday and was saying they're setting up offices specifically to help people navigate insurance and I'm hoping with the spotlight on it and there's been a lot of Ja. Ja. We're at my sister's for a few nights.

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It was kind of surreal because we were in like a vacation destination, Newport Beach, and went to the mall, went and saw Wicked, like went out to eat. And it was almost like we were on vacation.

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Yes, we did the stuff that you do. Yeah. Tuesday morning I went for my walk. Yeah. And I felt like I was walking through like a tornado. But it was kind of exciting also, you know, just and being out and seeing people and all of us were like, oh my gosh, this is crazy and just... die Bäume und Blüten. Ich war ehrlich gesagt ein bisschen nervös über die Pompons fallen und solche Dinge.

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I don't know. It's very weird to act like everything's normal and we're fine. Which I know so many people were doing on their kids' behalf especially. And also we've learned that classmates have lost homes and this is a lot for them to process. But we came back. The air quality was pretty bad. You took a leaf blower to the ash outside.

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And it's so sad to think where did this come from? But house is fine. We're fine. And feeling very fortunate. But also feeling... Like, I think everyone's kind of false sense of security is shattered. You know? If this can happen to our friends, it can happen to us. Like, it's not, I don't know.

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I remember, so our kid, when we lived in our old place, our kid went to preschool in Glendale. Mm-hmm. And I remember, I think this was, this must have been 2018, around when those other fires were happening. And I went to the school and I was like, what is your plan for a fire? Because you can, like, they hadn't issued any plans in terms of evacuating the kids away from the school.

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Like, do you have buses you're going to take the kids away from the school? And they were like, well, a fire, I mean, if there were, if... Es war wie ein einzigartiger Feuer bei der Schule. Sie nehmen sie einfach alle raus und gehen sie auf den Block und so weiter. Aber sie waren so, es wird niemals ein Feuer sein, das so sein würde, dass wir die Kinder auf Busen evakuieren müssen.

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Denn um das zu passieren, würde es so viele residenzielle Häuser geben, um hierher zu kommen. Und ich applaudiere das, was ich jetzt erkenne, ist eine falsche Logik, dass... Ja, genau. Es fühlt sich an, als würde es wieder passieren. Es ist schrecklich.

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Aber das Hauptproblem ist, die Leute zu unterstützen und zu helfen, die alles verloren haben und eine langfristige Marathon der Unterstützung brauchen werden.

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Ja, es ist, diese Videos von den Menschen, die fliegen und wie nah der Feuer war, es ist ziemlich erstaunlich. Ja, ich hoffe, dass diese Zahlen bleiben. It's hard to say because we have our home and I can't relate really to the feeling. But, you know, ultimately, and we reiterated this to the kids, the only thing that matters is that you have each other and you're okay long term.

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Aber das war der Anfang der Dinge.

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I think in the short term, this disorientation of losing everything and having to start over is, I can't imagine, but it's good perspective and I think it's just... I don't know. It's very sad. I sure love this city though. I feel like I have such a LA pride right now. And then at the same time I'm like, do we need to be here? I don't know. You know?

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Yeah. Where do we go from here? Should we go take a nap? And cry. And come back. It's crazy. Yeah. Let's talk about some not fire related highlights of 2024. I did say 2025 was gonna be a doozy. Yeah, fuck. In fact, St. Monica texted us on Wednesday. It was like, remember when you said that? Because I hope that this is it. Got it out of the way for week one. Yeah. Feels doozy. Scale.

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We saw Wicked.

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Is this inappropriate? Like, I don't even know what I'm saying right now.

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National Treasures abound.

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What is her name? We should know her name because she stole the show.

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Cynthia Erivo. Let's take a look. She was a bright light through this, you know?

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I did, oh, she went to the Royal Academy of Dramatic Art, which is like the big kahuna over there. I did see Cats in the Round in the West End, my first. In the Round, interesting. Yeah, it was very cool. Yes, she's, we nailed it. We nailed it. And then she was in Broadway, Color Purple. Damn, she's great. Very cool.

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You mean on Broadway? Really? Have you never been... I really want to go to an opera with you someday.

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Maybe in Italy or somewhere where we don't even know what they're saying.

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And see if it moves you to tears. I've never been to an opera and you always see that in movies where people are watching and they're like... And they don't even understand it.

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Well, see, we didn't experience it. Every friend I know who went to see it came away. And these are artists who I love and respect. So moved and inspired by it that I don't even know that we should speak to it. Because it's one thing to listen... Das Wrapping war nicht dazu gemacht, ein Rap-Album zu machen. Es wurde für diese Erfahrung in einem Live-Theater mit einem Publikum gemacht.

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Und ich würde sagen, es war ein Erfolg. Es scheint ziemlich erfolgreich zu sein. Ich denke, es hat den Ziel erreicht. Ich denke nicht, dass du da sitzen und den Wrapping ausdrücken kannst.

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I saw Starlight Express. Les Mis. Did you ever see Les Mis?

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Boy, oh boy, did I need it. And this has these... Ingredients that I have since learned about. It's been like fed to me in the algorithm.

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And it's for cognition, lion's mane, mushrooms, all the B vitamins, turmeric. Got it. This is a delicious little shot of energy. Now I'm adding it to my morning routine of having coffee. It has time to release caffeine, but let me tell you, It gives me a little pep of energy, but not in that wiry way that I hate. Like if I were to add another cup of coffee, this is perfect.

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So the great news is that for our wonderful nobodies, you get 45% off the Magic Mind Bundle for their January campaign, which is all about mental wealth. Und es ist www.magicmind.com slash n-l-r-jan, j-a-n. Das ist www.magicmind.com slash n-l-r-jan. Und ich hoffe, dass unsere Zuhörer das mit mir probieren und auf dem Trainieren, wie ich es habe. Also kann ich nur sagen, wie süß ist das?

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Es sieht so aus, wie die Packung so süß ist. Und sie geben es dir in eine Box für uns Virgos, die Dinge organisiert in deinem Friseur lieben.

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Bist du slammen oder siehst du drei Sippen? Drei Sippen, genau. Und das ist mein Lieblingsnummer. Magic Mind. www.magicmind.com. All right.

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Oh mein Gott.

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Oh, that, by the way, I feel like anything we talk about from the before times, it does feel like that was years ago.

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When did you send that email?

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Just a week ago.

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And will you read that email we crafted?

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Wow.

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And if I recall, you, I don't know if this was included on the air or not, but you wanted to be a little bitch and be like, hey Ben, thanks so much for, like you wanted to really fluff his nutter.

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I love fluff, isn't it? I think I just created that.

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Jacob Trancher is sawing part of his Yada to send.

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Is it legit?

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I guess it's out there.

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2071.112

Okay.

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Wow. The saga is over.

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We also got, a listener sent us, what's that called?

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A Cosmo.

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Okay.

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Deed?

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Oh, you wanna be Mr. Popular over in that little Facebook group?

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Is that good? And it's also, I think, just a generous of spirit thing to do. Listen, 200 bucks is not nothing for a lot of people these days, us included.

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I am too.

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Let's spend it all on lotto tickets.

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I know you had no faith. What happened to... By the way, I know that it's been really a hard beginning of this year. But you're... I was so moved by your resolution to be more optimistic.

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And I don't feel that it's been... And you know, just because... A resolution hasn't been lived to its fullest. It's gonna take some time for you to become optimistic, Andy.

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Jesus, das macht mich so nervös.

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But you and I had a big life conversation yesterday. And you were pretty pessimistic.

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No, but this is the thing. Okay, and actually I did this writing exercise this morning. Like, what's the thing you want? Okay, and this is kind of... Und die Neuroscientistin, die das gesagt hat, hat gesagt, das ganze Geheimnis, sie liebt es, WUWU-Sachen zu verurteilen und es mehr um die Neurologie zu machen.

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Aber im Grunde ist es das gleiche, als wenn du denkst, rot, rot, rot, plötzlich siehst du alles rot. Du siehst viele rote Dinge.

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dass es die Wahrheit zu dieser Idee gibt, wie das Geheimnis und das Manifestieren, aber es ist wirklich die Übung, die sie empfiehlt, ist, schreibst du, was du willst, dann schreibst du die Emotion hinter dem Ding, das du willst.

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Okay, hier ist ein Beispiel. Ich werde etwas mit unseren Zuhörern teilen, das wir noch nicht teilen. Okay. Wir verkaufen unseren Kabin. Wir verkaufen den Kabin. Und das war... Wo sind wir?

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There you go. We've been trying to sell it, and it hasn't sold.

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I think there might be something to that.

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Okay, so for financial reasons, we have to sell the cabin, and I think that maybe people have been able to hear that maybe protectively I've kind of turned on the cabin in the meantime.

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And we have loved it. We have so many amazing memories from there. But we have no business owning a cabin.

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Okay.

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Das war dumm.

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Yeah.

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Ja. Plenty. But it's beautiful. It's beautiful inside and on the inside.

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The outside we didn't quite get to and we just wouldn't have been able to. And, you know, we need that cash flow, as they say. Yeah. So it's been on the market and hasn't sold in the time. I thought it was going to be snatched up, but turns out that hasn't been the case. And we had a big come to Jesus talk yesterday and your stances at the cabin is just never going to sell.

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And you were so firm in it. And what I don't like is that you put these things out there and you said this at the beginning that We priced it and you were like, it's not going to sell. Drop the price, whatever, not going to sell. And I almost feel like you're writing how it's going to go.

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And our other neighbors like who live around the corner from that transformer said they saw a bright green flash. Yeah. You know, and then the power went out. But the power later we would find out at that time, I think, or later that night, the power was apparently out for not just from that transformer, but because of the wind and stuff for 500,000 people in L.A., which is just so crazy.

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That's not how it works.

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We witnessed that watching the Notre Dame football game at my sister's and my sister and her husband are big Notre Dame people and her husband is like so hardcore about it that we couldn't say anything positive about the game because it was jinxing it.

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But we were joking about Dear Brian, who many nobodies know from Brian's questions from our former... Are from my podcast Holy Beverages and sometimes Hot Sauce.

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Brian, I was like, is Brian actually going to be upset with us?

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And then that guy in Indiana who forgot his red towel, is he like beating himself up for real?

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Financial ease.

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Yeah, like relief.

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Relief. I think I did write that. Okay. Okay. Then you write all the ways that you feel that in your life currently. Little tiny ways, big ways, whatever.

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Yeah, and then I will say it's tied directly to finances. The ways that I wrote down, I feel relief or kind of ease around finances that I feel very fortunate for, right, is like,

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Because I'm lost. Oh, you don't think I did it right?

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Yeah.

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I know that you have a lot of thoughts about how to write down goals.

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It's a wish. It's something we're working towards.

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And you can't think of anything.

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But I actually did come up with some for financial relief, but you might be right.

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Okay. Okay. Okay. Well, I appreciate that you have a code. I do think you have so many limits on yourself. Like, for example, we have a cabin on the market, okay? It's like, there are pictures taken, it's listed. And you feel that I can't write...

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So we found candles and flashlights. und versucht, es lustig zu machen. Aber ich muss sagen, ich hatte ein schlechtes Gefühl. Es gab ein ehrliches Gefühl am Abend. Es war, ich meine, die Leute könnten lachen, es war kalt für L.A. und wir hatten keine Heizung, weil unsere Thermostats elektrisch sind. Unser Wasserheater ist tanklos, also hatten wir keine heißen Wasser.

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I want to sell the cabin because it's not like an action step that I'm taking because in your mind you can only write down goals that are, I don't really know where the line is.

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I guess, but you think steps can't be taken to make progress on this?

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Okay, so, but for example, I think a lot of CEOs of these companies who have had massive success, who manifested it, whether it's something they wrote the feelings behind or whatever, were like, I want to, this is a stupid example, it's just money, but I want to be a millionaire by the time I'm 30.

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Okay, whatever. But I think I would be willing to bet there are a bunch of CEOs who had stupid money stuff like that as a goal. And yes, then of course you can't just say, I want that and then sit on your couch and play Tetris all day, although that sounds lovely. You... Ja. Ja. Ja. Ja.

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And I'm in an industry that has no work. I'm now in a city of the industry that's burning down. I do have an investment that I could sell. How do you think I should write down that goal? Huh?

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Okay.

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So I have to be a house flipper for this?

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This neuroscientist though was talking about manifesting and like the secret. And I think that gets really out there where people are like, I want, you know, Jacob Trancher, I want a yacht. Okay, great. Okay.

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Natürlich hatte ich an diesem Tag eine 300-Dollar-Grocery-Hall, die alle in der Frisur saß und es war so, nicht die Frisur zu öffnen. Ich war an der Costco an diesem Tag.

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Are you going to share it with me? I don't know.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Science only gets you so far, by the way.

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Nobody's listening, right? So, for anyone who doesn't know, Los Angeles has been on fire. And we're recording this on Sunday. So I don't know what the next couple of days will bring. But I feel like we should share kind of our story. And also that we are so, so fortunate. We live close to the Eaton Canyon Fire, which is in East L.A. And we know... Ja.

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I think you might be right, though. Actually, as you were saying it, I think relief in the ways I feel relief. To bring this full circle, coming home to her home was a sense of relief that I cannot even describe. And actually, when we left the house to get out of here, and I...

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I would assume people could piece this together, but we didn't go to the cabin because it is in a much more kind of dangerous fire area than even where we were leaving. Yeah, the power was shut off there. And the power was off and it's freezing, whatever. Coming back home, massive relief. Yeah. Playing Clue last night with our family, you know, those little things.

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And then you... I mean, I think it's really shifting from need to gratitude to feeling like you have wealth in the area that you are seeking. And, like, wealth attracts wealth.

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Like, not... Not... I'm actually now not saying... I'm so tired. I'm so tired and confused. Why didn't we start this conversation? Well... It's not... It's flipping your mind... Okay. Here, bear with me. Reframing feelings in your body, let's say. Let's say you have... Go with me. I am.

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Aber wir hofften, dass die Kraft im Nachhinein zurückkommt. Und du und ich haben uns vorbereitet, die Lichter aufzunehmen, wenn die Kraft zurückkommt. Ich habe die Kinder im Bett gepackt und versucht, es zu machen. Es ist wie Camping und solche Sachen mit den Lichtern. Und dann wuchs ich um zwei Uhr. Also weiß ich jetzt, dass die Zeitlinie war, um 6.30 Uhr ist, als die Eton-Fahrt begann.

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You're already putting walls up. Okay. Be open. Be soft. Okay. So, the feeling of anxiety in your body.

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Okay. Reframing that to be excitement. Does excitement and anxiety not feel somewhat similar in your body?

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So, if you really reframe the anxiety, if you are doing somatic checking in with your body and being like, I feel anxious, you know what? I'm choosing to reframe this as a feeling of excitement in your body. See what happens.

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Yes, yes. So it's related to like manifesting. So when you write down all the ways that you already have the feeling that you're seeking from the thing that you're wishing for.

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Just the last 15 seconds. If you write down all the ways that you already have the feeling in your life that you're seeking from the thing that you're wishing for. So you said, you corrected me and said, I'm seeking relief.

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It does. Oh my God.

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Oh, that's fun.

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Oh, shit.

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Oh, I want to talk to you about Beast Games.

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And it has nothing to do with the fact that our entire city is on fire, feeling like it's the end of the world. It's all together. I want to talk to you about Beast Games and I want to do a role play on our Patreon episode based on Beast Games.

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Okay, well, maybe we'll see some people over there. Alright, good night.

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I didn't know that I knew about it. I don't think so, because it started at 6.30. I think by 7, because I've since seen a video someone posted of the kind of ridge where it started. You could see it from their house and filming it. And it was like a little... It's a little brush fire. And then a half hour later, like the entire sky is orange. You know, it's just crazy.

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So at seven o'clock last night. People in Altadena were evacuating. Got it. But I don't think the news got to us. I think it was when I woke up at 2 a.m. And I mean, my eyes were burning. It was so smoky. And I was really worried. And then I looked up and because our cabin was in a fire zone recently, we had the Watch Duty app, which is very helpful.

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Und ich konnte sehen, wir waren in einer Evakuierungswarnzone oder so etwas. Und es gibt nicht wirklich viel, was man tun kann. Ich habe eine Maske aufgemacht und ich wünschte, ich hätte eine Maske auf die Kinder aufgemacht. Aber wir haben debattiert und entschieden, sie einfach zu schlafen. Fehler. Und dann am 6. wuchs ich auf und es war so, oh, das ist wirklich schlecht.

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My neighbor who texted me and was like, we're out of here. And that's when I think it hit me. And it was like, oh, we got to go. And we had at that point evacuation warning for temporarily.

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orange it was so weird it was like bright orange on the side where there was no fire it's like it was reflecting in the smoke i mean it was hazy i had like such a headache i immediately when the kids woke up put masks on them and um just future you should put a mask on if there's any sense of smoke i've since learned so you went to get starbucks because we i didn't want to open the fridge to get like coffee stuff

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And then you did decide, because Starbucks' oven wasn't working, to stop at the donut place. Was that a primal, like...

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Yeah.

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Well, I think it's that like apocalypse. Like if I'm going down, I'm going down with donuts. Or also like I feel this and I'm sure everyone everywhere can relate to this with the pandemic. You have this human instinct to kind of like hoard and get more than you need.

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Well, it's because everyone just got the like get out behavior. And if you're going to get out, why not do it with some donuts?

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We got to bounce. I really learned a lot through this in the sense of I'm packing us up, getting us ready to go and looking at our house with the eyes of like, Okay, I need to get stuff for me and kids for, you know, a couple days at least. And also, and we have a lot of practice in packing for a couple days because we go to the cabin all the time.

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So I feel like in that sense, that wasn't too stressful. But documents, like, what am I not going to be able to live without?

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Oh, interessant, wie was? Okay. I don't know why that's making me smile, but okay.

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There are things. Yeah. And honestly, there were so many photo albums that I left behind. I grabbed the kids' baby books. The photo albums I have made for our lives are like, we still have the digital photos. But I left all of the photo albums that have like, Oh. Oh. Ja, genau.

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Yeah. Yeah. So, and we don't have that much stuff like in the scheme of things. And to my surprise, the kids only brought their lovies, which are angel deer lovies. And I was like weeping last night because I

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an Instagram, Angel Deer, the company, which is California based, posted, I'm going to cry, I told you, I don't want to cry through this, but they will, any kids who lost any lovies, you know, they're going to send. So, we grabbed those. It was very surreal leaving the house and really going to dass es die letzte Zeit sein könnte, dass wir dieses Haus sehen.

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Aber es war so ein Frenzy, dass es fast nicht wirklich sinkt. Ich fühle mich fast, als ob es später war, als wir lernten, dass unser erster Freund, dessen Haus weg war, das erste Mal war. Ich meine, das hat mich so hart getroffen. Und natürlich habe ich in die Tränen gerissen. Und das war, als ich dachte, oh mein Gott, das ist wahr. Leute verlieren Häuser.

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I have no idea. Well, I have a little bit of an idea. Because I would imagine, well, okay, so we went to my sister's in Newport Beach. And it felt like once we drove through all the smoke, I felt like, okay, we're okay. You know, my kind of fight or flight went down. And my sister's home was so accommodating. Of course, they welcomed us with open arms and like got us set up and everything.

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My sweet nephew like donated his room to us. But the whole time we were there, I mean, of course, we're also learning horrible news, horrible news, horrible news about our friends. It's not home. You know, there's like... Even when we're at the cabin, I get homesick, kind of.

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And I think I would liken it to, you know, after losing my parents, feeling really untethered. And like I didn't have a home. Yeah. And I think that's probably what this feels like. And also just, I mean, I...

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Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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Huh.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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Good night. Bye.

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Cool.

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It's a fat boy, but it's junior.

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It does an eggy?

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Mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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Fools, because then their kids are going to leave and they're going to go, none of this, like, there's no benefit.

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We did have to.

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And they're on the same street, basically.

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interesting well yeah there's like lunches like that yeah but we know our limits like and i don't i don't like being over scheduled i think that we're kind of on the same page with that we need downtime and also i hate to feel this way but just how how crazy this year has felt and how everything feels a little like um crinkly the texture of your face um

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And so some amazing patrons who had been, like, back listening said, oh, my God. And it's eerie. Can I play this clip for you?

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move on just move on okay um the more you're out doing the more chances there are for things to go wrong well that's no way to live life that's no way to live life we did also have friends over for breakfast yesterday our dear dear friends who we love pete and casey and as pete said as a joke but i think that there's merit to it oh i did like this if you don't try you can't fail

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So you can kind of apply that to life, you know?

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If you're not out and about, you're not getting rear-ended. I mean, I guess this is how people become shutters.

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And that's how they love to live.

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That sounds so depressing. You're like, I just want to get through this goddamn day as fast as I can.

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Do you think it'll sound okay?

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That's true.

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I don't – it's such a fine line between I want to get through this life because we only have – It's not this life.

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I know, but life is made up of days.

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And you only have so many. But there are days that you're like, I just got to get to the end. Like I just want to get to that moment when I'm sinking into bed.

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Okay. I mean, what if we did one podcast literally every morning and made enough money to hire someone to like upload and do all the back end stuff. So we just sat down for an hour every morning.

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Many a day, but what I will say is I think these are the good days. And I hope that that will continue for on and on. And, you know, we have choices in our life to make it so. But I feel like these ages of these kids... These kids. These appendages that grew. No, I really do. I think right now is the fun time.

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And... It's only a matter of time before they don't want to hang out with us. I know.

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Exactly. So that's what I'm saying. This brings it full circle. I'm glad to be the people who don't do that much stuff in our lives, revolve around our kids.

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Nobody's listening, right?

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Well, also, someone recently said to me, because I'm an extrovert in some ways, but I need alone time and I need home time. A lot of it. A lot of it, I guess.

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And there's a, it's like an ambervert.

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No, no, gross.

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Ambervert. That sounds so pervy. Ambervert.

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Amber alert.

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I actually didn't think it sounded pervy, but you were behaving like it sounded pervy.

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Why did you say don't say that?

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Well, that's what I would think. Okay, an ambivert is someone who has characteristics of both an introvert and an extrovert. Ambiverts listen and talk, great. Okay. I need to pull it together. Here, take us out.

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I'd rather be grossed out and end with crying so that I'm not.

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Okay, go ahead.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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You don't get to have a, it's gross reaction. I mean, you're going to a five guys in a mall food court. Like, everything about this experience. This is why I'm like... I actually resent you for what happened afterwards.

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Because you have to know what you're signing up for.

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That food court.

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It's like saying like I I went to a street vendor in the New York City subway system and it was so gross. There were all these people around like it's dirty. It's like, yeah, you're in the New York subway system.

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Why would that be a fantasy?

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I wish you had worked in restaurants at all. I think everyone should to know that. People are monsters. Yes, people are so disgusting. They are. And when they have license to be disgusting, like when you're in a place where the expectation is not pristine, they go to the base denominator and then also... The food court places there, it's not just contained to the eating area.

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Down the road. And so I want to ask, like, do you, the ideas that I've been having are like extraordinary stories from people or similar to like my favorite murder. If I found an amazing story to tell Andy about, and then the next week it was the other way or,

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Like, those places are also part of this ecosystem where it's okay to be disgusting. Do you know what I'm saying? Sort of. Like in New York City, the restaurant I worked at, which was a fine establishment. I mean, it did have like peanut shells on the floor type place.

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That's true. I mean, yes. Objectively, yes. Very true. But the kitchen staff worked very hard. I mean, there were high standards. The manager, Rogelio, worked very hard to keep it clean. It still is hard to keep clean.

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Okay. Well, carry on.

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The grease is a conduit.

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I'm so excited. Your hair looks amazing today. Oh, great. It's a little wild, but fitting for this kind of day, I guess.

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The grease basically becomes a slip and slide for germs and bacteria.

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Oh no, I think that's true.

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You're better off with a bag that has no grease. The grease basically is a doorway for bacteria and germs to slip and slide its way up to your fries.

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It's porous. It's paper. Yeah. There's a reason why, like, anything that wants to keep everything in is plastic, usually. Glass is another option that I would pick over a paper bag. But think about Tupperware, medical supplies.

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You don't even know. The fries like fell on the floor back in the Five Guys kitchen.

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Andy, I should hope so. Like, it might be. Knowing what's coming down the pipeline, I'm like, what is wrong with you?

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Well, this is the issue that I'm bumping up against.

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I mean, I experienced the story.

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Probably for good reason. I want to avoid it just being us. This podcast is enough of us just talking about what's going on in our life.

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Let this be a lesson. People, when you notice that food is off.

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I feel like I had this recently happen to me with something where I was like, ugh. Stop.

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Especially when it's something like meat or seafood or like... Yeah.

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This was so annoying. And we need to put we need to set up the kids bathroom in a way that this was kind of my final straw because whenever children was homesick that day. So they're on the couch. I only have so many places to work.

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My back's been a little tweaked lately, so I need to lay down. So I'm laying down in our room. And when you come in and use the bathroom in our room, it is hugely disruptive. And when you come in and lose your goddamn ass for hours, like... I couldn't be there. And I had nowhere to go. I went into her son's room and laid down on the bed.

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I said, what did you have for lunch? And you said, I don't want to talk about it.

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Promise me.

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I cannot make that promise.

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Okay. Gross.

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Okay. I have some big news.

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And a bit of a mea culpa, similar to your Captain Kangaroo.

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This is, I have no apologies for piercings. And also, like, you do you. I love it. This is towards the unshod community, which have my full support.

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I still don't totally understand the choice, especially in an urban setting where there could be.

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Yes. As someone pointed out, so close to unshoed.

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But I was kind of giving them some gruff last time that this came up, maybe last week. I don't remember. But then I was fed several all at once. It's like the universe was wanting to set me straight.

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So much fun. But isn't that crazy that, because in our minds, you came up with this idea two months ago.

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That there is a large and alarming epidemic of people, younger people, not like super young. I mean, over 40 having fatal falls. Yeah. And I'm not even talking about the people who are standing on cliffs taking selfies, which, as we know, is more fatal. More people die that way than shark attacks every year. I'm talking about people and people who fall.

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And then if you have a terrible fall where something bad happens, like you break a bone or break a hip or something, you're unfortunately chances of.

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dying then within the next year or so that's for above a certain age when you're like over 70 that's but it it applies also to younger people not in the same way though okay well you don't you i do know you're you're just guessing i'm not guessing you're making assumptions looked at this research for older people yeah but have you done the research for younger people no you're guessing

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And we fast tracked it, baby. And just got it up off the ground and we're like, we're going for it.

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Does it increase your chance of death? Yeah.

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Okay, whatever. But you don't want to be falling. And the thing that changes it, and it's a serious risk, especially for elderly. Osteoporosis, all of the frailties. The two things that change this risk the most, I've mentioned grip strength before.

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Toe strength. And guess what you do to strengthen those toesies?

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Oh, I bet that would be very good. Honestly, probably very good. Walk in the grass. You're not wearing comfy, cozy shoes all the live long day. You need to be shoes off. Now, I think that ideally like indoors in a safe place, but not necessarily. If you have access to areas, you know, fields.

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If it's been in there for eight years, isn't it crazy when you, I mean, when they said that, I was like, no, there's no way.

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You want to be unshod.

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Yeah, to me, that thing, and I'm kind of walking back my apology, but I need to be barefoot in an airport is one of two things. And one I have a lot of compassion for and the other I don't. One is a sensory issue. Like having stuff on your feet really feels... It's a sensory thing, which I have compassion for. Two is attention.

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And it is exactly what we're talking about, bringing news stories to each other every day.

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Can I tell you something?

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That's interesting. I'm switching gears.

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Because you're right. What do you think the leading cause of death is for 40-year-olds?

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It is. Sure. I mean, it's the leading cause of death. So, of course, it's dark. Oh, you think it might be intentional?

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Unintentional injuries, meaning... Oh, accidents? Motor vehicle accidents, opioid overdoses, and unintentional falls.

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Wow. Yeah.

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So you want that toe strength.

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It's weird.

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I'm scared.

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And I just want to prep this with, like, this has been a long road for her. Seven years.

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No, no, we don't. Actually, recently I was at dinner with friends and one friend was telling a story about the other friend and she was like, that wasn't me. And I was like, well, I'm so sorry to tell you this, but Andy and I were talking about this very podcast eight years ago on our podcast and neither of us have any recollection of this ever being at the seed. So memories are not to be trusted.

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And it's a very clever idea. It's like snap onesies for babies. But she has no sales. The business hasn't done well yet. She has a lot of patents, which I think is probably what a lot of the million dollars went into.

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She's worked hard. Her dad is a partner. I imagine at some point in time, she went to her dad and said, I really believe in this. I'm 800 grand in the hole on this. And the dad said, sweetheart, I have 500 grand I want to put in because I believe in you so much.

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Because he's in two.

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And he's 35%. So he bought in on that, supporting her and going, you're going to take this the distance. I believe in you. But behind closed doors, having conversations with mommy going, whoa, you're taking this in a direction that I did not seem coming.

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Go on. So little... What's her name? Leslie? I don't know. Little Leslie. You know she's a million in on this. And it just breaks my heart. She's worked so hard. And is it okay if I put $500,000 in to show her support? And the mom's going... do you really think it's going to work? You're going to have to do it assuming that that's going bye-bye. And the dad's like, it could go bye-bye.

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I mean, these are real conversations they're having, right? Okay. But we want to support her. It is a good idea. I see it being a good idea.

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Yes, but also I think has the awareness of like – Someone's put a million dollars into something and there's been no return yet.

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Then it's quite risky.

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It's an investment only a supportive dad would make. And that's part of why this is so moving to me.

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A father being proud of their daughter.

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It really moves me.

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like fucking jumped off this cliff for her financially and is giving her, is making a choice to give her unconditional support.

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Well, I think they go hand in hand.

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And I think you can be proud of your daughter for sticking. I mean, I think he is proud of her. Yes. That's a huge part of it.

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Very excited to talk to you for an hour as though no one's listening. Is anyone listening?

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And what a gesture. Now. She could very easily have been calling to say, I didn't get a deal. That was highly likely.

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They have. What?

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We all do.

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Yes. Yeah, it's definitely gendered. I mean, and I even think this might be true in our little nuclear family. Like, I am nonstop gushing over the kids and how much I love them and how proud I am of them. And not to say you're withholding at all. You tell them as well. But you... you're a tougher nut to crack in some ways.

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Whereas my sense of pride is just like bare for everyone to see all the live long day.

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And that in my family, um, rang true as well. That was very true. My dad was very reserved.

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He also worked really, really hard and became very successful in his field. And to have him feeling proud of me would have been really cool.

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Yeah, some things tied up in our society's toxic masculinity, maybe, or whatever.

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And I do think this is like a double standard kind of. I think it hits different because the expectation on mothers is to be like have unconditional love and nurturing and support. So if you have an emotionally unavailable mother. Mm-hmm. And this isn't – I'm not saying this is right. I think this is just true. Yeah. Because it doesn't match society's expectations. It's on the mother, really.

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Like, if the mother then is like, I'm so proud of you, I'm sure that means a lot to the child, but – it's not like this win. It's like, oh, the mom finally came to her senses, sort of.

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And we're going to have a weekly segment.

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Which is not fair. No. But that, I think if you're really distilling this, but yeah, there is something. I mean, those videos online of like. The daughter getting into medical school and the dad's reaction, especially when it's kind of set up or you get the sense that this father's really reserved.

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There was one I saw recently, and it did seem like a stoic father. And he's holding the newborn grandbaby. And they tell him the baby's named after him.

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Oh, my God. So we had such a fun weekend day happened to us. We've entered a new era that I am so jazzed about, Andy. And I don't know. It might be like a two steps forward, one step back situation. But the era we entered is that of just dropping our kids off at birthday parties.

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I'm done. Cooked. So good.

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Unwarranted love and support.

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I just had a... You don't know. I just had a... Like... I don't want you to do this, but I was just like, what if I challenged you the next time you talk to Malcolm and if you would record it, say, Dad, are you proud of me?

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You can't. It's so cringy. It makes it. Yeah, yeah.

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To me, I would be like, oh, God. Because you go, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And then what are you proud of me for?

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Of course. Okay. All right. Well, good night.

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And our kids are nine and 10. We showed up ready. So it was very cute that birthday girl was having a little movie screening at a little movie theater.

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And it was adorable. And we showed up ready to watch a movie. And also, like, a movie neither you nor I are that excited to watch. But it's fun to watch.

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Just say what it is.

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Because we showed up ready to, but it's a tiny little theater room. And it turns out like they were kind of at capacity. So she was a little nervous about us staying almost. And now that gives me more context because she thought they didn't have enough seats.

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We can drop them off. Now, I don't think we can expect every birthday party from here on out to be a drop off situation.

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Now, recently, yes, I think you're right. We're entering a gray area, though, because recently there was a play date here, and I thought it was going to be a drop-off situation, and it wasn't.

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It was for a younger kid, but it took me by surprise, and it was lovely. But also, it was three hours that I wasn't aware, you know.

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Whatever bullshit I needed to do.

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Yeah, just different texture to my day. But anyway, this was a gift and it was like... You know, I really don't like when you say texture to your day. Why not?

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I love texture.

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Can I tell you something I don't like that you do constantly?

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Oh my God, I got it this time.

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Well, you don't like texture. Just while we're sitting here saying things we don't like, you say, if you will, all the time.

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Like, I went and got some chips and some salsa and, you know, that sort of thing, if you will. That's not a good example. But you'll say, if you will, and I always say, I will, because it's just a turn of phrase that is in there.

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I just want tit for tat texture.

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We don't need to get places. Great.

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Okay, so we realize while we're sitting awkwardly in this tiny movie theater, holy shit, we can go have like three and a half hours to ourselves.

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When does this happen? On a weekend?

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Daytime, like unplanned, a sitter's not showing up. This is amazing. Yeah. And so we walked over to a store, looked for stuff, didn't find it, went home.

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We went home. Oh, yeah.

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No interruptions. No, like, kids needing attention, which I don't know why when we play Tetris. It's the prime time that they need attention. Then we.

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Went to a fucking bar.

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Yes, I was hoping.

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You don't like drinking, but that place is more your place than mine.

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So I want to talk about this. It's a good thing that we had Oyad before this, because you were playing a game called Ice Cold Beer, which is basically a stand-up kind of arcade game version of the Labyrinth game, which is like the box where you try to get the silver ball through the maze.

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But anyway, you are so skilled at labyrinth.

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What a special, specific skill. But up at the cabin, we have labyrinth. You can do it with your feet.

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Oh, Kels, we're two peas in a pod.

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But you can just do it and win it every time with your hands.

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And so you also are so good at this ice cold beer game. And I also got video of it because I was like, holy shit. It's so hot watching you do these games. And I'm wondering, do you think this is connected to you having ADHD?

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How good you are at that? Like, it's crazy.

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I love it, too. Thank you for that.

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I don't know. I'm just trying to figure you out.

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It makes so much sense. And I do have to say, it makes me have more compassion for it. Like yesterday playing Tetris, you were humming.

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No, I don't know. Just like I wasn't. Yeah. My, my animalistic instinct was a turn.

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Yeah, too much for me.

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I was like, whoa.

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Oh, my God. Okay. On that note, I have to play you something, Andy.

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Because I had had a daytime beer. Like, when's the last time I had a daytime beer? I don't know. So anyway, it was so much fun.

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What a day. Now, I had the thought as we were walking from the bar to the movie theater. Now, I know that there are lots of people out there. And I've been aware of this from the day we became parents, basically.

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That live their normal lives and are going out all the time and bringing the kids random places all the time. And they seem to have a very active kind of life where it's different from ours. In what way? I feel like there are people who are like out and about on a Saturday and they have seven different pit stops on a Saturday. Yeah. And one of those is the bar where kids are also allowed to be.

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Multiple listeners reached out and said, do you know that you had this conversation with Eight years ago.

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Yeah. And one of those is the other place where kids can be and... I don't know. We just don't operate that way. We're not out and about doing things.

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We're good for one thing a day. And it's usually revolving around the kids. It's usually like a birthday party or a game or some event like that.

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It's very rarely about you and me. In fact, we don't even barely take our kids on like errands very often. We kind of schedule those around the kids, which I don't think is great. It makes our lives are very kid focused. And I remember when Teddy was three months old and my friend, my dear, dear friend, Vanessa Ragland came over with her baby, Oliver.

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And she at the time was in the Groundlings Sunday Company or something like that. And she was like, yeah, I'm starting to get back into it. And I was like, you are? Because I was still just kind of in a dazed cloud. Yeah. And I said, well, so, you know, is John home with Oliver for that time? Because are you pumping all of that stuff? And she was like, no, I just take him.

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And my jaw dropped through our floor onto the crawl space underneath our house because that was when I realized, oh, Teddy's got colic. Like Teddy's crying 24 hours a day. So I couldn't go do things.

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that's kind of when this all started.

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I'm not resenting. And here's why.

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And Teddy, if you're listening to this someday, listening back, I wouldn't change a thing. Even the colic, that's all part of who you are. And it bonded us immensely. So I realized yesterday being out and about that some people live that life and, But I'm kind of glad we don't because it makes me feel like we have the best of both worlds.

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Of doing our, like, I'm going to play this clip. It's from Totally Married, episode 312. Now, all of our back episodes are on Patreon. Patreon.com slash nobody's listening, right?

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Like we're having this time that is kid focused because this is this time in their lives. And then when we become empty nesters, we're going to start to lean into that stuff way more. And it will ease the sting of not having our kids around. Whereas the people who just never stopped doing these things.

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Hudson News.

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2,000.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Wow.

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But... Just listen to other people.

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The way they landed it in Toronto, probably.

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Oh, for sure.

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I hate everything I've said.

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The way you just said that like dragged out.

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Hopefully not at all, yeah.

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Are there Mahjong coaches, I wonder?

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You really threw me with the folding chair.

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Okay. It wasn't the basket?

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What an idiot.

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Raisin bran.

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It's pretty funny.

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What do you mean? Did I look away?

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Just like neighborhood gossip.

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¡Es de todos, amigos! ¡Es de todos!

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It's very... That was the question. I mean, in the terrorometer, how... No, no, o sea, porque, mira, estoy entrando aquí, estoy en Umbra, en tu portal, y dice aquí, sí, películas de terror, paranormales, ya se lo entendemos, ¿no? O no? Pues fantasmas, ¿no?

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Alien, the last one, or the saga, what is it? Alien... Comedy.

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Well, there are some.

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It's like all this that we're talking about, but Asian. What happens is that Asian horror cinema is quite particular.

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Okay. In the Cannes Film Festival. But the way to show it. The second half. But that's the joke. That you feel uncomfortable. But not so much. After two million crimes of blood. Yeah, I mean... O sea, sí la he visto, ¿no?

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No la acabé.

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O bueno, cada una. Cada una. Cada una.

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Ajá. Viejita. Sí, sí. Donde me acuerdo perfecto que echan a un cuate en una trituradora de, no sé, de desperdicios. Eso es donde entra uno. Porque no es de terror. Fargo es como... Mira, hay que distinguir dos cosas.

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Okay. That definition, terror and horror, ok.

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Wait, let me finish with the... Ah, there are still categories missing. We already said aliens, you already mentioned it, and then vampires.

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Yes, of course, it's part of the genre. But they're handsome. And pretty. No, because the vampire was usually a guy... Dracula. Ah, no, no. No, on the contrary.

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Of course, of course.

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I like them for a little while. Walking Dead. The most famous zombie expression in the series. Vi como tres temporadas o cuatro. Realmente los zombies ya no importan. El problema son las relaciones humanas. O sea, la serie se construye en las broncas que tienen los humanos. Los zombies llegan y los matan y ya se acaba.

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Pero muy interesante, esa serie se me hizo no por los zombies, sino por toda la bronca social que genera el supuesto apocalipsis y lo que tú quieras. Pero finalmente las broncas son entre humanos. Los zombies son... Harry Potter, ¿es un error? Sí, claro. ¿Por?

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So... What content do you find here in Umbra? What can I see?

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It's like the radio a little. It's like the radio. You put the station and if it's not news, there's music. And we interrupt you.

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Al mes. Si aquí estoy dando la página y se disfruta... Asian movies from there. Enjoy... Well, let's see. Enjoy Umbra for 7 days for free. Exactly. There's a free test. There's a test and then you start to charge, right? But the future of Umbra is to become a horror hub.

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No, ya lo encuentro.

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A ver, yo, si me preguntas, ¿te gusta el cine de terror? No. No. ¿Cómo sé o cómo le hago para darme cuenta que tal vez sí me gusta? Y que no he visto, o he visto cosas muy comerciales, muy lo que todo el mundo ve.

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Lenny Kravitz is the son of Cy Kravitz. What? Tell us. Television producer and very involved in the media. Ah, a family of artists. Yes, he didn't start playing in his kitchen. No, no, no. Cy Kravitz, who is the father, already died a few years ago. He was a news presenter. No, sorry, a news producer for NBC. Okay. Durante muchos años.

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The clowns, what are they called? It's horror or terror. No, it's horror. Horror. Yes. Well, yes. A mixture. A mixture. There is a channel of terror. Ajá. Yo soy usuario de Samsung TV, de Pluto y Roku, que comparten los canales más o menos todos. Hay uno que no, pero correcto. Y hay uno ahí de terror, que se llama, o sea, me sale porque le doy y sale.

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Y siempre está el, no siempre, pero a veces el componente de la chica guapa.

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Entonces, ya, o sea, la mató y descuartizó, pero pues no dice nada. Entonces, no, porque sí. Sí, influye mucho el audio. No me gusta, digamos, sufrir. Sí, sí. Gratis, ¿no? O sea, no. Ay, ya la maté.

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En la película de terror o horror, no sé qué es, digamos, tal vez más importante en los últimos años, El Exorcista.

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Ya me tocó. Yo no la fui a ver porque estaba muy chavito, pero mis hermanos sí. Y era de dejar de dormir. Correcto. Por pensar en el exorcista. Y ojo, no había repetición. No podías verla otra vez. Ay, voy a ver la escena. No, no. Lo que viste en el cine, en lo que duró la película, es lo que te queda. Y luego, la canción de... ¿Cómo se llama? ¿Campanas tubulares? La canción de Mike O'Field.

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Hizo la canción del exorcista. Sonaba en todos lados. Y era, ah, era del exorcista. Y luego, sí, obviamente... Hace poquito vi un cachito en la tele de la original con Linda Blair. Y sí, o sea, sí te da miedito, pero te ríes un poquito.

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Y pues digo, ahí estaba un poquito más cerca de... De la farándula. Sí, no, no. Es decir, tenía como un hándicap, ¿no? O sea, yo creo que llegó a... ¿Quieres tocar la guitarra? Órale, póngale un programa.

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Tienes que verla. La voy a ver. Para hablar de lo mismo. Sí, la voy a ver. Lleva tu cuenta a litros de sangre. Ah, ok. Te lo prendes a la mitad de la película y acaba en 7 millones. Oye, y entonces, ¿qué recomendación le das a la gente que diga, a mí no sé si me gusta o no el horror o el terror? ¿Qué películas? Así dos, así o tres películas. Comerciales, que puedan ver.

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O sea, que estén en las plataformas.

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The one with the button eyes is Coraline. And it's from this guy. No, no, no.

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Now, a father of a family that I imagine there are several who listen to us, see us, who have children, like what age? Let's see the crow, let's see Dracula, what? Or...

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Para despedirnos, Eduardo, ¿cómo reaccionar si tú tienes un hijo... Vampiro. No, bueno, ahí aplaudo. Si te dice, papá, soy vampiro. Tienes un hijo menor de 18 años, ¿no? Tengo uno de 18 y uno de 11. No, no, no. Tengo por los dos lados. Ok, ok. No, la pregunta es, tú tienes un hijo o hija menor de 18. Supuestamente son menores de edad. Correcto. ¿Y te das cuenta que ve películas de terror?

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¿Él por su cuenta? No, no, no. ¿Qué le dices? ¿Lo alientas? ¿Está bien? ¿No va a entender otra cosa diferente? ¿Cómo sería?

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No, no, okay.

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¿Cuándo? 1.5 mm thinner. That's good. Which, I don't know if it's going to get to Mexico or not. It was still presented in Korea. It's cool that they do this because they're special editions where a lot of people want to buy a Samsung foldable. And they say, I did like it, but what if it was thinner? Less fat. Yeah. Y con esto ya está anunciado. No hay precio todavía.

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El original, el de los noventas.

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Yo lo jugaba ahí. Bueno, me refiero. No, yo conectaba bocinas en un estéreo y te daba miedo. Las gráficas eran obviamente horribles, pero el... We make noises. Yes, yes, of course, of course. And, well, we did it in the satanic mediums. Yes, yes, yes.

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Oye, entonces es Umbra.stream, U-M-B-R-A, Umbra. No estoy viendo aquí en la pantalla. Ahí te puedes meter, puedes bajar la aplicación a las plataformas que mencionaste, pagas tu suscripción y tienes acceso a todo esto que comentamos.

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Of course, obviously.

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Funciona. Ah. O sea, funciona. Prende, prende. Prende, claro, claro. Pero ya no hay señales análogas.

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Ya no hay señales análogas en este planeta, no. En este país y en muchos otros, dieron el bajón, el apagón digital, el apagón análogo hace ya algunos años. Y entonces ya no te sirve. Este gat ya no puede captar ninguna señal. O sea, no... En las zonas de radio no hay ninguna señal. Y no va a haber que puedan servir.

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Acuérdate que aquí en México y en muchos países estaba VHF que era del 2 al 13 y luego UHF que era del 14 al 69. Le cambié.

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And it stays scanning all the time, but there's no way.

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Tiene un... ¿Qué usa? ¿Pilas AA? AA, cuatro pilas AA. Tiene una patita para que la puedas poner así. Yo lo que veía, esas teles las veían los taxis. Los taxistas traían sus televisiones para ver el partido. Yo más bien, tipo como veladores. O veladores. Gente que estaba... No había celulares, ojo.

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Entonces esto era una fuente de entretenimiento impresionante porque podías ver la tele en cualquier lugar. A ver si se oye el...

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Yo la conseguí después, no recuerdo cuándo. Yo creo que, híjole. ¿Unos 100 dólares? Es que esta es de marca Fifi. Sí, casi. Es de marca reconocida. Había muchas teles de muchas marcas. Esta, ¿cuánto habría costado en aquel tiempo? ¿Unos 200 dólares?

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Y la conservé, la guardé. En Mercado Libre. Obviamente en 699 pesos. 699 pesos.

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Y prenderá, quién sabe.

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No, tú di que no.

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¿Quién da más? ¿Quién da más? Cero. No está a la venta nunca, ni va a estar a la venta nada. Esa es de la colección personal de gadgets. Que, ojo, Ponton, ya para irnos de este gadget. La tengo guardada hace muchos años sin baterías. Sí, sí, claro.

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No, pues ponle desde el 90 o no sé, 20 años guardado. Y está impecable porque no tiene baterías. Claro, claro. Y no se movía ni nada. Oye, último comentario de trivia. Sí. Los canales 2, que se transmitían por la banda... UHF. No, VHF. Ah, VHF. VHF. ¿Qué hicieron con ese espectro? El gobierno, el espectro del gobierno. Radiofrecuencia?

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Pero bueno, qué bueno que salgan estas versiones especiales.

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O sea, ese espectro, ese pedazo de la frecuencia era del gobierno, siempre fue del gobierno y ahora lo licenció, lo vendió directamente. para básicamente datos, y tengo entendido, igual me estoy equivocando, tengo entendido que gran parte de ese espectro es donde hoy en día corre la red Altan, que es la red alternativa que tenemos aquí, y seguramente otros, ¿no?

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O sea, los gobiernos dijeron, ya no hay televisión análoga, pero vamos a hacer negocio, y vendieron ese espectro. Como 100 dólares.

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100 dólares. 2,000 baros. De ahorita. De ahorita. Pero de aquel tiempo, ¿cuántos? Bueno, efectivamente. ¿Cuántos nuevos pesos hay?

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Somos nosotros.

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Aloha, Matuk.Nicolón is listening. I'm in Hawaii, specifically in Wailea, in the south of Maui, because I came to the Snapdragon Summit, an event that has been going on for several years and this time they presented their advances in processors or as they are formally known as SOC by the acronym System on a Chip for cell phones and vehicles.

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In the mobile part, the new Snapdragon 8 Lite processor was announced and it is the first mobile platform that integrates the new generation of the Orion CPU processor and now drops to 3 nanometers and has improvements in the processing and performance of all its components.

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CPU, GPU and NPU, which in very simple terms are indispensable parts of a processor to offer computer, graphics and artificial intelligence functions.

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In fact, in terms of artificial intelligence, they emphasized more capabilities of generative artificial intelligence locally on the device, that is, without the need to use an internet connection and the ease of use in the camera for photographs and video. And something very cool about being here was to be able to see the demos in action.

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pudimos convivir con unos perritos divinos para que viéramos cómo, al lanzarle la pelota a uno, la cámara fotográfica detectaba inmediatamente la acción y el movimiento. También vimos un demo de cómo, con la ayuda de inteligencia artificial, la gente dedicada al retoque de fotografía You could select a style and tone of color to apply it to many images simultaneously in a matter of seconds.

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Or the same theme, but in a frame, all this in simultaneous images, in addition to the creation of images with generative artificial intelligence in different styles. And something that was amazing was being able to erase people and objects that you did not want in your shot in video and in real time.

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We also saw demonstrations of the use of artificial intelligence in text, such as achieving the division of an account with just putting a ticket, for example, a ticket from a restaurant or an image. In case, for example, in the video that you do not have good lighting, we saw a function that improves the taking of different approaches and types of light.

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Asus, Honor, Samsung, OnePlus, Oppo, Realme, Vivo and Xiaomi will have this processor. Several of these companies in the coming weeks on their devices. And by the way, people who also love this topic surely noticed that there was a change in the nomenclature, leaving behind the term Gen to use the word Elite. They already used it in the sox for PC and now it comes to cell phones.

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And this is to align the nomenclature with the PC, because its improvements are really important. 44 percent of energy in CPU, 40 percent in GPU and 45 percent in NPU speed. Because in the end, from a marketing perspective, people standing up are looking to recognize the brand in a simpler way.

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In addition, there was also talk of two new processors for vehicles, Snapdragon Cockpit and Snapdragon Ride Elite. One was based on entertainment functions and another for driving and driving. Both offer improvements in camera management performance, applications, sensors, multitasking and energy consumption.

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And well, as a technical fact, its CPU and GPU improved three times in performance and 12 times in NPU. And if you feel like this is a math class, don't worry. In short, they do everything better and well, the driver will only notice that all this works and is more comfortable in a very dynamic and simple way.

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For example, the infotainment system such as navigation, audiovisual reproduction, the use of apps and even video games will work fast, it will look very good and you will be able to use up to 16 screens. There will not be so much latency when consuming content. And on the other hand, the control of driving systems such as the

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that the sensors detect a pedestrian, a cyclist or that they avoid an accident, they will be given autonomously and quickly just to avoid this type of unwanted events. This time we cannot see the prototype because it will be available next year in some Mercedes Benz, BMW, Rivian, Chevrolet, Chinese brands and many others worldwide.

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And well, the demos that I am showing you here are of existing technologies that are already there this year. Curioso, el vicepresidente de marketing de Qualcomm, Don McGuire, nos contó que la apuesta a largo plazo es que la gente llegue a las tiendas y compre un vehículo porque tiene un procesador Snapdragon.

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Y bueno, pues claro, al final del día, si bien a muchos y a muchas nos interesa el tema de cómo funciona la tecnología, el usuario regular busca comodidad. Y bueno, por último, Pontot, me acordé muchísimo de tu próxima sección en este podcast, porque también nos contaron de cómo están posicionando a la marca para que la gente la reconozca en el día a día.

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I, look, I'm going to sneak peek.

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de ahí la alianza que están haciendo en el deporte con la Fórmula 1, con el Manchester United e incluso el famosísimo Guillermo del programa de Jimmy Kimmel estuvo aquí haciendo contenido de la marca en cuestión de entretenimiento. Así que esta es una de las probaditas de lo que se presentó en el Snapdragon Summit aquí en Hawaii, pero ya termino pronto mi chamba para que pueda irme un ratito a

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We are the same, but different. We are us. We are the clones.

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Sí, sí, sí. Que nadie sabía para qué era.

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Yes, well, but that wave, I remember that they gave us talks and they were going to give us the demonstration. And the speech was, it's going to change the shape of your brain. Why? Because of Wave. And what is that? It's an integrated thing.

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Ah, en el video. Sí, sí, sí, sí, sí.

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Google Glass sí fue incomprendido. También, por cierto, los HoloLens ya los dieron de baja. Sí, de Microsoft. Pero bueno, Google Glass y el evento, si quieren pongan el video ahí y busquen en YouTube. Lanzamiento de Google Glass en Google. No, no, no.

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A ver si nos invitan, ojalá y sí, al Unpacked. Y yo creo que la sneakpiqueada va a ser al final algo de realidad virtual, aumentada virtual.

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2003, 2014.

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De repente entraron al salón, pero al salón. Aterrizaron arriba y bajan al salón. Y tú como, ¿qué onda? ¿Qué está pasando? ¿Qué está pasando? Y pasan dos tipos en bicicleta. FRANCESC CAMPOYA- FRANCESC CAMPOYA- FRANCESC CAMPOYA-

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Ah, pero esa fue una demo. O sea. Sí, nunca lo lanzaron como tal. Creo que no. O sea, suponte Meet. ¿Qué es la competencia de Zoom? Creo que es muy usado.

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Sí, claro. Está bueno. Si alguien se acuerda de algún fracaso de Google, que nos lo escriba, ¿no?

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Estoy en la energía YouTube para leer algunos comentarios que nos dejan, afortunadamente.

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RickZ2GN, me sorprende la variedad y calidad de invitados. No se ve en otro lado. Gracias, clones. Eso. Muchas gracias. Un aplauso para el comentario. Porque siempre estamos buscando invitados. Hay de todo, pero afortunadamente muchos colegas, amigos, conocidos, se dan la vuelta por acá.

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¡Qué buena idea! ¡Qué buena idea! Podemos editar ese comentario y borrarlo. ¡Qué buena idea tienes! Dice Angeli, estas entrevistas son las que no puedes hacer skip. Está bien.

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No, no, no. Sí, ya sabemos. No lo pateé. Pero la app... Déjalo descansar en paz. La app, ya no la perdamos mucho. La app en iOS de 1.0 era un dolor de cabeza por las políticas de Apple. Y la de Android, sí, tuvo sus buenas descargas, pero bueno.

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Pues sí. Sí. Qué gran sueño. Dice Carlos Cruz Ortiz. Hola clones, se volaron la barda con su invitado y muy acertadas sus intervenciones. No cabe duda que la historia se aprecia desde el ojo que la mira y la experiencia que cuenta. Es abrumadoramente adrenalínica. Me quedé fascinado con su participación y me impactó lo de trabajar la psicología del ciudadano judío de a pie y

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El limpiar el área sin estrada, etc. Tremenda narración del periodista. Gracias por la gente que invitaron. Hay muchos comentarios y gran entrevista a la entrevista de Roberto.

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Y márquenos en el 81-387-18106. Ahí nos pueden mandar un mensaje, es un WhatsApp, o escribir un mensaje o mandar un mensaje directo. de vos o lo que ustedes quieran y nos vemos por aquí cuando el próximo miércoles, ¿no?

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Bien, por eso. Gracias.

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El editor de esas... ¿Es un editor normal, lineal, como los conocemos?

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Bueno, igual es un set. Algo con la alberca. Sí. Pero sí es un submarino con agua. Sí, sí, sí. Sí. Sí. Pero ahora hay más maravillas en CGI, Ponto.

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Sí, no, el mar yo creo que no. Agua salada en medio del mar no, pero sí un set. Muy bien. ¿Y cuándo lo vamos a poder ver en Los Mortales? Nunca, ¿verdad?

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Bueno.

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Ok, vamos a darle al siguiente, la siguiente nota, por favor, señor productor.

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Íbamos a otra nota y no interrumpió el corte.

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Ok. Siguiente nota. Siguiente nota. El conflicto China-Estados Unidos sigue de todas formas. Hay muchos matices de este conflicto. Una es, por ejemplo, que Estados Unidos no deja usar cierta tecnología proveniente de China en su territorio. Llámense algunos chips, etcétera. No. Bueno, pues ahora los chinos dicen, ¿sabes qué, papacito? A los gringos. Bueno, a sus habitantes. Sí.

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Ya no vas a poder usar tu iPhone si trabajas en el gobierno. Ándate. Y China vende mucho en, perdón. Apple vende mucho en China. Muchísimo.

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Sí. Sí. And it also says China that Intel puts back doors on their chips to facilitate espionage and attacks.

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They also said that the chips had a back door. But before that, several years ago, there was a scandal for the servers. I think it was Huawei. Creo. De origen chino. Que compraban los gringos por miles para sus data centers. Supuestamente venían ahí chipeados. Bautizaditos. Pero, ojo, fue todo un rollo. Dejaron de comprar eso, pero nunca hubo una prueba que los gringos mostraran.

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Yo creo que sí hubo. Sí, pero es confidencial. Pero que mostraran nada. Sí, pues no creo que puedan mostrarlo. Pero es que está muy bien hecho eso. Imagínate, tú eres china. y Estados Unidos. Te compro 100,000 servidores. Claro, te los vendo. Pero espérate, le voy a poner ahí un amigo invitado que me deje ver todo lo que haces. Se los tronaron.

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Y bueno, pues ahora China dice no puedo usar a nadie del gobierno chino iPhones porque son un problema de seguridad, lo cual así va a seguir esta pelea. Claro, eternamente.

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It's more gore. No, o sea, explícito, pues. Muy explícito, sí. Sangre y eso. Sí, sí. Y cosas más paranormales. ¿Viste la sustancia? Sí. ¿Y te gustó? No. Ok. La mitad sí me gustó. Ok. A ver, las protagonistas sí me gustaron. No, bueno, pues es parte de la oferta. La Demi Moore está muy bien conservada. Sí, cómo no. Y la otra mejor, pero... No, no, me gustó la mitad, tú ya la viste.

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No, ya está roquísimo. 60 years. 60 years.

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No, but I didn't know or didn't understand this sex appeal that she has.

Opravičujemo se za vse nevšečnosti

Kondomi za večkratno uporabo 🚀

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Od Bright Side of Life. Pa nam šo na morje spet. Neko en seks vzedi. Ničem tam gor. To se lahko sam nam zgodi.

Opravičujemo se za vse nevšečnosti

Kondomi za večkratno uporabo 🚀

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Mhm.

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Du hast die Worte aus meinem Mund genommen. Ich werde dir sagen, warum. Weil die glärendeste Sache für mich zwischen Elon Musk und Neil deGrasse Tyson ist, dass einer ein Kapitalist ist und der andere scheint ein Sozialist zu sein. Weißt du die Namen der Firmen, die Neil deGrasse Tyson gebaut hat? Weißt du die Namen? Null. Er hat nie eine Firma gebaut.

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Er hat null Firmen, die er auf seinem Resümee gebaut hat. This is a living, breathing example and metaphor of a capitalist builder doer versus what appears to be a socialist professor who basically is aligned with the progressive left. And what I loved about COVID is some people got better and some people got way worse. But no matter what, everything and everyone got exposed.

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All the bad ideas got exposed. All the bad policies got exposed. By the way, do you know where Neil deGrasse Tyson got his bachelor's and his master's? Take a wild guess. California? Nope, you're close. Where? Harvard and Columbia. Oh, weird. The elite, elite, elite Marxist institutions of our time. Now, there's people that went to each of those universities that have done great things.

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I'm not saying that everything is uniformity like that, but we've seen what happened with everything that happened. But we've seen what happened, everything since basically COVID on October 7th. So there's a difference. Vinny, you said it, you sort of said it. There's a difference between being smart and well-read and wise and being a builder.

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Elon Musk has built how many companies that you just listed off? Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. The Grass Tyson is zero.

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You said COVID and everything. If I had to guess, he's gotten the vaccine and nine boosters. That's probably affecting his brain. Because something's off.

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Something's off with that guy. He's arguing with Bill Maher of what's a man and what's a woman. Bill's like, no, no, no. You lose all your credibility. I'm a classic liberal. und du wirst nicht mit mir dieses Argument gewinnen, Hoss. Und übrigens, ich gebe mir ein bisschen Kredit jetzt. Während der Wahlabend, was unglaublich war, Shoutout an das Team, wir haben gerade das Event gemacht.

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Du hast gesagt, was sind die Gründe, die größten Dinge, die Top 5 Dinge. Und ich habe gesagt, hör mal, ich denke, das Ding mit Dylan Mulvaney und der Bud Light-Ding, weil das war der Tipp der Speer, was ist ein Mann, was ist eine Frau.

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The straight dudes who like hot chicks community love that community. But the Dylan Mulvaney thing was sort of the tipping point and metaphor for, hold on, You can't even identify this. Dude, the President of the United States, Joe Biden, or what's left of Joe Biden, sat down with Dylan Mulvaney to have a conversation with women. Are you kidding me?

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Und am selben Tag, ich war im Modellvolleyball, ich mache, was wir tun. Es war der selbe Tag, der Transgender Day of Visibility war.

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No matter what you say, you're not going to convince me to vote for fucking Trump. So whatever way you want. I'm not going to say you got me.

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Lass mich dir erklären, warum du Leute verlierst. Wenn du ein AOC oder Ilhan Omar sagst, bin ich nicht interessiert in diesen Menschen. Kann ich das Ende von dem, was du gesagt hast, hören?

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Nein, das hat es nicht. Das ist der Punkt. Es hat es nicht.

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Das kommt an die Macht gegen die Kraft, über die du immer sprichst.

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Und was ist in der Mitte? Nur, dass man regelmäßig sein kann.

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One of the big reasons he bought Twitter slash X is because he wanted to make it his own platform, remake it in his own image. And I think this really gets that. Party ID among those who regularly use X slash Twitter for news. Back in 2022, 65% of those who regularly used Twitter slash X for news were Democrats. Just 31% were Republicans. Look at where we are today.

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Unter es zu sagen, Gefühle, Gefühle, Gefühle, Fakten, Fakten, Daten, Daten, Emotionen, Gefühle. Wenn sie Dinge sagen, naja, er ist dreckig, er ist das. Nein, nein, nein, nein. Ich liebe, was Bill Maher sagt, engagiert euch mit der Idee, engagiert euch mit dem Konzept. Halb die Zeit, wenn diese Leute Dinge sagen, sind es nur pure, raue Emotionen und Gefühle.

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Na, ich fühle mich so, also sage ich es als Fakt. Er ist so, sie ist so, zeig mir den Grund. Verstehst du mich? Verstehst du mich? Diese Netzwerke. Wie ist es mit dem Mann, den du angerufen hast, um alle Daten zu holen? Ja, dieser Mann. Also geh mit ihm in eine Konversation. Sie sagt, Scott, ich habe noch nicht meinen Kaffee getrunken. Du bist nur Gefühle, Gefühle, Gefühle. Hier sind die Fakten.

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Aber, weißt du, die Fakten interessieren nicht deine Gefühle.

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Nun, bei den Power vs. Force, wenn du das aufbringst, weißt du, wie es mit Frieden ging? Ja. Es gibt noch ein anderes Wort für Frieden, es heißt Hubris. Es ist exzessive Frieden. Ich musste, weil du das Video gezeigt hast, wenn du Hubris und Frieden hast, bist du unwillig, zu sagen, dass ich vielleicht falsch bin.

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Maybe, just maybe I've been given the wrong information or my feelings won't allow me to be willing or have the courage to admit that I was wrong. So a lot of these people have hubris, excessive pride. I think it was Icarus who flew too close to the sun in Greek mythology.

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Trumps new borders are Tom Homan has said that he is willing to arrest leaders like yourself for standing in the way of these policies that they want to enact. Would you be willing to go to jail for these things?

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I like to make a legal statement. No, because you said three years. No, no, it's still open today, PBD. It's going to be four years and going until January 20th, when this thing is going to get shut down. So it's been four years and it's nonstop. And for him, you notice how he was like, I'm willing to go to jail.

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I don't want it to get there yet, because that type of guy would never last a day in prison with that attitude. And I think it's, by the way, it's Denver, Colorado. These people act like they give a damn, but he's probably getting paid and they're going to get votes.

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Did Trump kill 6 million Jews and 10 million people? Well, no, he didn't do that. Alright, did they invade all these countries all over Europe and try to take over the world? No, he didn't do that.

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Leave it to the left. Leave it to the left to make Hitler not bad anymore.

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I don't know if I'm ever going to get a chance to use this reference, but did you ever see the movie? It's a parody of Don't be a menace to South Central. You've seen this movie. When he goes, lock me up. Everyone's like, yeah, throw away the key. I ain't scared to go to jail. I ain't scared to be in a cell with a man with a soap running down his back of his ass.

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And everyone's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We just said we're trying to go to jail. That's a Denver mayor right there. I'll go to jail. I'll sleep with three men of the same type. Whoa. Peaceful protest. Alright, let's go to the next one here.

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I don't know. I just feel safer knowing like... Pull this microphone. I feel safer. Knowing that Trump is in office. I do too. I feel great about it.

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Ich denke, wir werden eine neue Version von Joe Rogan sehen. Because when's the last time Joe Rogan reinvented himself? You've always given him his flowers and his shine. Well, he can do MMA, he can do comedy, he can do interviews, he can do so many different things. But think about it. When has he ever publicly voted or endorsed Donald Trump? Never.

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But he's also, I think, a big player in Ukrainian politics.

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I wonder how much of that 180 billion dollars he's getting. What are you talking about? Everything that's happening right now is obvious. It's blinking. It's all these guys that are trying to start a war before Biden is out. It's not even a secret. What do you mean start a war? Start us getting really involved with the war.

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I agree. Listen, we're sending them weapons and missiles. We send them weapons, we send them money, we send them aid. We're in a war, but an escalation to where we're going to deploy our troops for something that should never have happened.

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I think it's absolutely... I'm going to pose a crazy question. Go for it. What percentage do you agree with the Rogan camp versus the Klitschko camp? The camp, and I'm not putting words in anybody's mouth, from what I discern from this is... World War Three is happening. Why are we sending all this money? We got to get the hell out of there. Zero, zero, zero. Take parts of Ukraine. We're done.

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Or hey, no, we're actually, they were supposed to take us in three days. It's been three years. We're doing our fight. Freedom, freedom loving people support us. What percentage do you agree with each argument?

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Hier ist mein Ding. Ich lehne mich offensichtlich mehr nach dem Rogan-Argument, weil, und ich fühle mich schlecht für die ukrainischen Leute, weil sie keine Wahl hatten, Adam. Sie hatten keine Wahl. Wie viele Male hat Putin gesagt, nicht zu nahe gehen, nicht NATO einstellen, nicht das tun, und dann werden wir es ständig weiter drücken. Also sind sie Opfer in diesem. Dieser Kerl ist ein Opfer.

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Also was ist das Prozent? I'm 80% Rogan and I'm 20% because I feel bad for the actual people that are there, that are suffering because of the policies. By the way, this is all us. This is the United States. Who's the most prolific money giving to Ukraine?

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It's the United States. What's the reason? Is it like with the border? Because we care about illegals? No. Do we care about Ukrainians? No. It's all business. It's all money laundering. Am I lying? Am I off?

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Klitschko is the mayor of Kiev. He is heavyweight champion of the world at one point.

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Ich dachte, du meinst die Ukraine. Die Kampagne von Kamala Harris.

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Sorry, this is an email because I'm a registered Democrat. This was the first time I've ever voted for a Republican candidate for Donald Trump. But this email I got on the 18th of this month, 13 days after the election, where the Harris campaign is asking for more financial contributions. Why would you need more money after the election is over?

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Ja, ich meine, nur eine kurze Liste. Verstehst du, wie die ICC funktioniert? Also, du weißt, es gibt den UN-Sicherheitskanzler. Ich denke, es gibt fünf permanenten Mitglieder auf dem UN-Sicherheitskanzler. Also, es gibt drei, die auf unserer Team sind und zwei auf der anderen Team. Also, du hast die USA, du hast die UK und du hast Frankreich. And then number four and five are China and Russia.

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And at any point, anyone can veto or suggest that someone goes to the criminal court of the ICC, the International Criminal Court. So here's who's been recommended to go to the criminal court, but it's been blocked by China and Russia. Do you remember what Bashar al-Assad did to his people in Syria? Hundreds of thousands, if not hundreds. Over a million people dead in a Syrian civil war.

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This good looking gentleman right here, Bashar al-Assad. Million people dead. No, no arrests, no nothing. And he probably used biochemicals. Well, he did. Okay. Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. What they're doing to basically subjugate their people, the thug-like regime in Iran. No ramifications, no nothing.

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By the way, let's not mention what China and the CCP are doing to the Uyghurs, basically putting them in work camps. And just don't worry about these concentration camps that they got going on. I think even Putin was recommended by the ICC. Der Punkt ist, dass sie eine unverzweifelte Organisation sind, die alle lachen, keine Schmerzen hat.

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Und die Vereinigten Nationen, ich war früher so, das ist ein Korrupt, das ist das, was los ist. Schau dir das an. Wenn du nur Israel in ein Vakuum nehmen willst, wie viele arabische oder muslimische Staaten in der Welt existieren? Guck dir das an. 50. Okay, give or take. Someone might say, well, it's only 49. Okay, you got me. How many Jewish states? One.

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So automatically, if you're not on Team Israel, you're losing 50 to 1 right here. So thank God the United States is an ally to Israel and they will at least stand for justice and reality here. Because, and this is a weird analogy here, but you do the body count thing, I'm talking actual deaths.

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If you look at what's going on in Sudan, you look at what's going on in Yemen, you look at what's going on in countless countries all over the world, you have in Russia and Ukraine hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people dead. The latest number that came out of Gaza, which is horrible, nobody wants this war, 40,000 dead.

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Even Hamas has acknowledged that half of those people that have been dead were actually Hamas terrorists. So you're looking at a 2 to 1 ratio, which is one of the upper echelons of wars. In war, in combat zones, it's not like they're fighting in a field somewhere. They're in towns, they're in buildings. Hamas is embedding weaponry in cities. Hospitals, schools, playgrounds, mosques.

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What is Israel to do? Garages under townhouses. So, what we've learned is one thing, and this is sort of the Justin Trudeau analogy here. Up is down, left is right, the sun is the moon, everything's upside down. And if you're a hater, and if you're a progressive leftist, And you're somehow aligned with the jihadists?

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Or Hezbollah? Nothing. So they have publicly indicted 67 people.

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The one thing that stuck out in my head was, what page was it? Eight, seven? So when he's saying Justin Trudeau would enforce the ICC warrant, what does that mean? If he goes to Canada, he arrests us. Okay, that's what I was going to say. When is Netanyahu planning on going to Canada? That's like a threat that's like...

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By the way, I can't take somebody serious that's at a Taylor Swift concert with a bunch, like this many bracelets, PBD, with a bunch of young girls. One of the creepiest things I saw for the past couple of days was the same guy who pushes this LGBTQ agenda, the trans thing. He is so, so, so far left. This is Trudeau. Schau dir diesen Jungen an.

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Er ist an einem Taylor Swift Konzert gestanden und er machte Bracelets und gab sie ihm wirklich, wirklich... Was für ein verrückter, verrückter Kerl. Und dieser Art von Bedrohung... Hier ist mein Ding. Warum sagt er so etwas? Du weißt sehr gut, Benjamin Netanyahu wird nie nach Kanada gehen. Warum würde er nach Kanada gehen? Ich glaube nicht, dass er sich über die Frage kümmert, weil...

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I'll check your pager. Just some comparable analogies. Justin Trudeau is the Joe Biden of Canada. He's the walking dead. His approval ratings are hovering in the high 30s, low 40s. Have you ever seen any videos of this guy, Pierre Pauliev? This guy in Canada, dismantling Trudeau with every single iota of Trudeau's perfect hair and his coif.

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Justin Trudeau, just typical playbook, he's racist, he's anti-women, this guy is just slicing and dicing Trudeau. Netanyahu ist der Trump von Israel. Er wird in den Gefängnis geschlagen. Seine Ratings sind niedrig. Niemand will ihn. Er ist so hoch, wie er jemals war. Die Leute denken, oh Scheiße, all das Nonsens, das wir während Covid-19 verhandelt haben, sie werden ihn in den Gefängnis schlagen.

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Es scheint, dass er Hezbollah eliminiert. Hamas ist im Grunde genommen eliminiert. Die Houthis sind im Grunde genommen, als Trump gewählt wurde, waren die Houthis im Grunde genommen so, wir sind fertig. So Netanyahu is very comparable to Trump and Trudeau is very comparable to Biden.

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Es gibt diesen, es gibt einen anderen. Und dann habe ich einen alten, der etwas über die Trans... Rob, spiel diesen Clip zuerst. Lass uns reagieren. Geh vor.

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Other than the military-industrial complex, which you gave a great example of.

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You saw this. Yeah, I heard about it, because she expressed some opinions. Right.

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Yeah, he asked me first, buddy. See, that's what happens when there's a professional separation.

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So I don't think they're getting divorced. I don't think they're getting separated. Ultimately, I think this means they're not doing content together anymore.

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Is that what this means? I mean, it's going to lead to something bad. Because if you guys, if you can't work together, how are you going to be in a relationship together? You know what I mean? Like, I don't understand that.

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Number one, I don't think anyone actually cares. I don't think anybody's losing sleep about this. You know who this falls on? There's only one person this falls on. And that's Prince Harry. Dude, you're the freaking prince of England, of Great Britain. You pluck up some B-list actor out of obscurity. What show was she on? Suits? Actress. Okay, whatever she is, actress. And you basically...

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Und jetzt hat er sogar einen Titel. Ist er ein Prinz? Prince Harry is a freaking loser. And he basically gave up everything for love. And now it's coming to bite him in the ass. And now they're not going to do content together anymore. Cry me a freaking river. Vinny, what's this again?

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Yeah. Okay, sure, but it sure didn't sound scientific. It didn't sound like the person I would want to be running Scientific American. Okay. It was a rant on Twitter. Okay, I could read it to you. It's really ugly. You know, I apologize to younger voters that my Gen X is so full of fucking fascists. Okay. I'm not... Okay. She blew a gasket right there. I'm not...

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Du hast mir gesagt, dass du gestern Nacht viel Schlaf verloren hast. Du warst auf Füßen, weil du die ganze Nacht aufgewacht hast. Ich weiß nicht, ob du weintest. Wir haben extra Tissue. Warum bist du so beeinflusst von dieser Geschichte?

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I'm not for cancelling anybody on either side. But here's what I think is the scandal. This is in Scientific American, less than a year ago. Inequity between male and female athletes is a result not of inherent biological differences between the sexes, but of biases in how they are treated in sports. That's nuts. And it sure ain't scientific, and it's in Scientific American.

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And that's why the Democrats lost the election. Es ist wahr.

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Bill, jede 20 Minuten auf deiner Plattform kommst du mit einer anderen Grund, warum die Demokraten verloren haben. Du hast bereits die Antwort. Sie haben die Wahl verloren. Also alles, was du sagst, ist, warum sie es getan haben.

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Zuerst einmal, du schaust dieses Show nicht, also weißt du es nicht. Und jetzt tust du nicht und es ist okay. Aber du sprichst, als ob du es tust und du tust es nicht. Und das ist okay. Just don't bullshit me. That's the one thing people can't ever do on this show is bullshit me. And that's fine. But I don't say that. I have very good reasons. But engage with the idea here.

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$30,000 later? $30,000, I'm getting an eggplant? This guy gave me a shaved carrot. He said, hey man, this is a filleted carrot.

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What I'm asking is, Scientific American is saying basically that the reason why an NBA, WNBA team can't beat the Lakers is because of societal issues.

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Listen, I've always been a McDonald's fan. I mean, the French fries, can we be honest with each other? You'll burn your stupid... You see it come out of the oil, but you keep going. But I just love McDonald's, because that's one of the only companies that is still like, listen, we know it's not good, but just come on, even there, Rob, I just sent you this photo on Slack.

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Guys, they don't even give a damn about their slogans and their promoting. They came out, you guys remember this? They came out with the Land, Air, and Sea Burger. Did you guys, do you remember that? Land, Air, and Sea. It's a chicken sandwich, it's Big Mac and it's the fish filet. The only problem is, okay, land is what, Tom? The cow, right? How much is this, like 80 bucks? It's like 40 dollars.

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And it comes with a free heart attack. So land is the cow, sea is the what?

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Air? Chickens don't fly! McDonald's doesn't give a shit! McDonald's is like, just eat the damn thing and have a heart attack! They don't fly! Have you ever seen a chicken fly? But they just don't care, and I get it, they're trying to survive, Tom, but shout out to McDonald's. That's the only company that's just like, hey, listen, we know it's trash, but you know you want it. McDonald's.

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What you're saying is not Scientific American says that. An editor for Scientific American says that, who no longer has the job. So don't indict a 170-year-old magazine because somebody... Okay, this is called Scientific American and they're printing something... Because someone enters the cesspool that is social media and then participates in that exchange. So let's talk about science.

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I was in, when we were in D.C., and the night that we were watching the fight, Mike Tyson versus Jake Paul, we actually didn't end up getting together that night, but the team watched it. I was so hungry. It's like 10.30 at night, something like that. I was like, oh, there's a McDonald's over there. So I'm in line.

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I was with you, but I was at dinner the night and then, you know. Oh, you were with that girl.

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You were better than us. So I'm at McDonald's and I'm ordering and a guy walks in and you could tell he was slightly angry. He goes, hey, hey, the ice cream machine broken again still? They go, no, actually, actually it's working. He goes, get the fuck out of here. Give me two ice creams, man. He was so shocked. So broken all the time. That the McDonald's ice cream wasn't McBroken out here.

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Give me two ice creams. I was like, who else are you with? He was like, man, I've been wanting an ice cream all day. Let me take two. Boom. So, congrats. I got a bone to pick with McDonald's. What's with the breakfast ending at 10.30 a.m.? No, I thought it's all day long now. No, no, no, all day long. Wait, what? They changed it? What? This is some McNews to me, bitch. No, but hold on.

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You need to McChill, because I'm going to tell you something right now. I'm going to McWhoop your ass. You know what, though? Some of the food is so bad, they can't keep it on the menu year-round. Like the McRib. You ever notice? The McRib's not here right now. But you'll be driving on the freeway, and you'll see an 18-wheeler, and it's like, the McRib is back. It's like, where has he been?

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In prison? Where is he? I want him on the menu all the time.

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I stop my McUber and pick up a McRib. Don't get the McBizda. Wow, that was quick. Do you ever eat at McDonald's?

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You know who loves McDonald's? Who's that? Excuse me. Donald Trump, of course. We all know who loves McDonald's. We saw that thing with RFK.

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Look at his face. Look how happy everybody is. Except, close it on RFK. He's like poison in my hands.

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Imagine Mike Johnson. He has to like peen over to be in that picture.

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I think the world... Maybe take a gummy. Hey, PBD, man. Maybe capitalism. Maybe communism's alright, man.

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Why can't you just say this is not scientific and Scientific American should do better?

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You could have doubled. Listen, Pat, like we say all the time, 150 million ain't what it used to be.

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No, PBD, this is just them saying what we know, but the clip that I sent Rob is of, what was his name, Robbie? Big Homie CC. Good guy, Big Homie CC.

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And mind you, and I felt blamed to this because the media and everybody was being quiet. The family, his daughter, everybody was like, especially because this was the whole COVID vaccine. People were like, just tell us. Mind you, I know Jamie Foxx personally. I even messaged him when he was going through this. I said, I'm praying for him and everything like that.

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We didn't get into nothing like this. But... Everybody was like, oh, it's the vaccine, it's the vaccine, talk to us, talk to us. It was media silence.

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So from what I'm gathering, because I know people that are there that went to the special, when you go to a special like this, and you guys know this from the comedy shows that we've been to, they take your phone, they lock it up, you can't have anything recording or nothing, right? He said in the special that... Yeah, I was hospitalized by this person.

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And mind you, him and Diddy have had a business falling out. They said they had a beef. So the Choke No Choke was a videographer. And he was like, yo, I was there. He said Diddy was responsible for what happened to him. And that he's the one that called the FBI. And Choke added... I don't think he was joking in the special.

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Okay, so nobody knows, and you guys know this, we might not ever see what's even there, because on the cutting room floor, we know this from editing, if he doesn't like it, or if it's anything kind of, you know, too far, they'll edit it out, but the people that were there were saying that he was saying it, and that he was serious about it.

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And also, this was a little while ago, Pat, this was Celebrity Bodyguard Big Homie CeCe, Ja.

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Facts. Wow. Okay. Und wie hast du das gehört? Kannst du mir das erzählen oder nicht? Das ist alles gut. Aber die Leute wollen wissen, wie das passiert ist. Was ist die Hintergrundgeschichte? Wenn das runtergeht, wird es in der Stratosphäre sein. Es wird in der Ether sein, wenn das runtergeht.

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Du kannst es wahrscheinlich jetzt anschauen. Aber wenn das Interview runtergeht, wird es in der Ether sein. Und wer ist dieser Kerl? Diese Leute verpusten Leute.

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I mean, to me, Neil deGrasse Tyson is probably the dumbest smart person I've ever seen, like on the planet Earth. It's like, there's, and you see, and I love this, when it's Democrats, Pat, going at it, and now you see where the Democrat-Liberal line is, and then where they start saying far left. This guy can talk his way into anything, and this is a clip, you showed this a while ago,

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Warum teste ich positiv für Cyanide? Warum habe ich drei Mal Pneumonien? Also Leute sagen, warum atmet er so? Weil ich nur eine Lunge habe. Und dann hatte ich einen Karkrebs, ich hatte einen Nostril, permanent blockiert. Und ich habe drei Mal Pneumonien gehabt. Jemand hat versucht, mich zu verbreiten. Mein Bruder hat sich mit mir verbreitet.

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Die kleine Frau, die ich als Körpergegner war, hat sich verbreitet. Jemand hat diese Antiken verbreitet. Das sind Fakten. Gibt es eine Idee, warum Diddy Jamie Foxx verbreiten würde?

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Nummer eins, habt ihr den Special gesehen? Niemand hat ihn gesehen. Okay, genau. Aber ich kenne Leute, die da waren. Du weißt, es gibt eine berühmte Sprache in der Komödie. Das sind Jokes, Mann.

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Okay. Das sind Jokes. Aber Joking über jemanden, der dich verpustet, und dann nennst du ihn den FBI? Ich weiß nicht.

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Es gibt viele Ditty-Jokes da draußen. Ich meine. Es gibt viel zu lachen. Ich denke nicht. Meine Meinung, ich werde die Worte allgemein über diese Konferenz überlassen. Ja. If he was actually poisoned and almost lost his life, that he's not announcing it on a comedy special. The FBI would be dealing with this.

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Well, now he could, Adam, because the FBI has arrested the guy and he's in jail. He's not scared of his life.

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Big homie CC. I mean, to be honest with you, I think, when somebody like that is talking, me personally, I believe him.

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Because I know what he is. Do you 100% believe him? No, I would say, let's say 80%. I'm at like 2%. Because those guys see everything. Adam, these guys see everything though. That guy has sunglasses on, he's 380 pounds and he's wondering why he can't breathe so good. Maybe lose some weight, mother sucker.

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No, but I mean, listen, I'm just saying, I wouldn't put it past somebody like Diddy, who we know the track record from his allegedly having people shot. Hold on. Baby Oil that had freaking drugs in it to all the crazy stuff that's going on. This is the least of my thing. If you have a beef with somebody and then poisoning them, I believe it.

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Hold on, Tom, let me finish one thing. I'm separating one thing. Do I think Diddy is a world class scumbag who's probably going to spend the rest of his life in jail? Yes. Do I think that Jamie Foxx joke and whoever the big homie CC is, has any credibility here? Very low. So I'm just separating the two.

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Oh, remember the last Sunday that we were, he was a wet Brooklynette. He came up and he almost hit somebody.

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Das ist er über Transgen... Denk an das. Mit all den Wissenschaften aus dem Fenster. Wenn du morgens wachst und denkst, dass du ein Mädchen bist und ein biologischer Mann bist, dann bist du das. Und das ist, was die Leute dich akzeptieren sollten. Ich denke, es ist zwei verschiedene Dinge. Und das ist, wenn smarte Leute versuchen, sich zu interessieren und Dinge zu brechen.

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Master P, Mann. Das ist zu natürlich. Nein, nein, nein. Thomas. One time I saw you. Thomas Gangster. He went like this. He goes, I'm gonna bust out this case study right here. Right now. Thomas Gangster. Don't let him fool you. Anyways, let's go to the next story.

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Können wir diesen Clip wirklich schnell spielen? Das ist Neil deGrasse Tyson, wenn es um die Trans und was du denkst und was du glaubst, dass du bist.

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Chinese imports have plummeted. Now, I think Mexico is our number one trading partner at this point, right? And then there's Canada. Alright, our neighbors to the north. Coming back. I think we're going to take Trump at his word when he said that my favorite word in the world is tariffs. It's better than love. We're going to figure this out. I think he said the...

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Mexican and Canadian tariffs are 25% and then China is closer to 10 and 15%. Tom, do you know those numbers? Regardless, Trump seems to be meaning business right here in the Wall Street Journal and other USA Today. This is the number one story that they're reporting right now. I think it means business right here. And I think part of the trade also has been treated very unfairly.

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Mein Punkt ist, dass die XXXY-Chromosomen offensichtlich nicht genügend sind! Because when we wake up in the morning, we exaggerate whatever feature we want to portray the gender of our choice. What is he even talking about? Either the one you're assigned, the one you choose to be, whatever it is. And so now, just to tie a bow on this, I say to you, somewhere I read,

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The foundation of it with Mexico and Canada is the fentanyl crisis. Trump ain't playing this game. You've heard Trump say, don't do drugs, don't smoke cigarettes, don't get tattoos. He doesn't like to see the drugs coming in this country. He's going to do something about it.

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Can I ask you a question? Go back to that chart. Sorry, Rob. That chart, China, you would think, shouldn't China be trading a lot more that Trump has gone? Why is it dropping so hard from...

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Oh yeah, do you know which clip that is? The guy from Ukraine, right? Or Russia?

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Ich glaube, es war Russland. Es war ein bisschen... Er hat gesagt, das war mein zweiter Termin. Er wusste nicht, dass es mein war. Er hat gesagt, das war mein zweiter Termin. Er wusste nicht, dass es mein war. Ich glaube, es war Putin.

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Okay, so, and Rob, I sent you this. So Planned Parenthood was viable, healthy, aborted babies was selling, who could have survived outside the womb to the University of California for experience. And Rob has this story, Rob. I think I slacked it to you.

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In their contract, it states that they own the intellectual property rights and the patent rights developed and experiments done by the body parts. Okay, so Planned Parenthood and the University of California, San Diego reportedly negotiated fetal tissue donations for research.

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E-Mails and a 2018 research plan revealed that they wanted up to 2,500 fetuses ranging from 4 to 23 weeks gestational age, which is almost 6 months, by the way. Now, donating fetal tissue is legal. Aber sie verkaufen sie nicht. Also warum gibt es einen Kontrakt, der die Rechte über das Tissue gibt? Ich denke, das ist ein bisschen seltsam.

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Und dann sagt Planned Parenthood, dass das alles unter den höchsten ethischen Standards gemacht wird. Aber wie ist es ethisch, um den Tod eines ungeborenen Kindes zu negotieren, wenn es ein Komodität ist? Das ist alles, es ist alles transaktional, Tom. And then add to that the allegations of racial disparities. The Spanish consent... Look how racist this is.

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The Spanish consent forms fail to disclose the same commercial value details as the English ones. So basically, if you spoke English, you got the full story. They're going to make money. If they get the patents, they make money. Including the fact that the tissue could have commercial value. But if you spoke Spanish, they left that part out, which is freaking racist.

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And they say, oh, it's not profit. But then why does... It's in the stipulation of the contract. Valuable consideration is in the contract. So if you're receiving taxpayer dollars and operating, this is a gray zone. And I think we need answers. So Senator Mark Rubio recently called for a federal investigation into the Parenthood based on these findings.

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So I think it's like unbelievable, Pat, that this is in conjunction Planned Parenthood with the UC San Diego Parenthood. dass sie in einem Vertrag gesagt haben, dass diese Babys außerhalb der Wunde leben können.

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I think I read that the United States was a land where we have the pursuit of happiness. But so science goes out the window. Suppose no matter my chromosomes, today I feel 80% female, 20% male. I'm going to put on makeup. I'm going to do that. Tomorrow I might feel 80% male. I'll remove the makeup and I'll wear a muscle shirt.

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Und ich weiß nicht, Pat, es war Tico, der mir über dieses Ding erzählt hat, wo sie die Vorzüge reinbringen und die Babys bewegen, weil sie wissen, was das Schmerz von diesem Ding ist, das kommt, Tom. Du hast das vorher gehört. So, what do you think, Tom? Because this is all factual. This is factual.

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They were selling babies for contract and they were basically saying, if we use, if we take this fetus, six months old, that could survive, okay? Totally healthy baby. We take it and we come up with a patent. You can't, it's just, we're taking all the money. That's the Planned Parenthood UC San Diego contract that they had. And it's all factual.

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At least, this is two months ago, I think, Marco Rubio, love him or hate him, he's actually standing up to this because it's ridiculous.

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And so here's my thing. And remember how we always talk about the money and follow the money, Adam. We always go back. Yeah. What is his agenda? What is his goal? And saying stuff like women can actually compete. And think about it.

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Und das ist es, was Tico mir erzählt hat. Er hat gesagt, Onkel Vinny, weißt du, was das silente Schreien ist? Und ich wusste nicht, worüber er gesprochen hat. Er hat gesagt, selbst wenn sie die Vorzüge reinbringen, versucht das Baby, wegzumachen, weil es weiß, dass die Schmerzen kommen.

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Und Tom, tolle Frage, weil wenn wir die Leben in der Wunde nicht wertschätzen, dann wie können wir es woanders wertschätzen? Und die Pro-Choice-Mitglieder sind so, es ist nur Tissue. Nein, nein, sechs... 23 Wochen, so lang, es hat ein Herzschlag, es fühlt sich schmerzhaft an. Und jetzt gehst du da rein, du tötest es nicht nur, es ist schmerzhaft, dann verkaufst du es und verdienst Geld davon.

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He actually did the research to find one thing, Tom, where statistically and one thing out of all the sports, women might, not they do, might have an edge on men in long distance swimming. So there has to be something up. For somebody that smart to say something dumb like that, there has to be something behind it. There's no way he really thinks like that. There's no way.

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I have a whole thing on Dojo. I'll use it on another segment because I've actually been doing a lot of research on what they're doing. I mean, everyone's sort of excited of what this upcoming administration is. They're sort of the super team they're putting together. I'm most excited about this DOGE, Department of Government Efficiency. Their task is to cut two trillion dollars.

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from the federal deficit. So I don't know how long they're going to do that and how long they're going to take. We discussed this on a previous podcast, what's mandatory, what's discretionary, what is basically fixed, what's baked in the cake. I'm excited to see what budget cuts they're going to make. And it sounds like Planned Parenthood is going to be a big part of that.

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How soon could Elon Musk realistically send humans to Mars? Another good question.

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I have strong views on that. My read of the history of space exploration is such that we do big expensive things only when it's geopolitically expedient, such as we feel threatened by an enemy. And so for him to just say, let's go to Mars because it's the next thing to do, what does that venture capitalist meeting look like? So Elon, what do you want to do? I want to go to Mars.

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How much will it cost? A trillion dollars. Is it safe? No, people will probably die. What's the return on the investment? Nothing. That's a five-minute meeting and it doesn't happen.

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So, we agree. I'm not for going to Mars. Okay, wait, wait. We're not against Mars.

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What I'm saying is, here's how we get to Mars. China leaks a memo. It doesn't even have to be true. They leak a memo that they want to put military bases on Mars. Then we're on Mars in 10 months when NASA doesn't have a spacecraft, but Elon does. Here's my spacecraft to Mars. and we end up paying him to use his spaceship to get to Mars.

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And that'd be easy for China, because Mars is already red, right? So that'd be easy stuff.

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Ich sehe es nicht so, dass die Regierungen beurteilen, dass es geopolitisch in unseren Interessen ist. Sonst sehe ich es nicht als eine Exploration.

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Er ist von einem Wissenschaftler zu einem Nutz. Er hat nur einen Knie. Einen Knie, der eine Galaxie hat. Und jetzt ist er gegen die Spacetechnologie.

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Ich stelle vor, dass auf einem Episode von Sporting Class du glücklich bist, dass die Ratinge nicht wichtig sind. Und jetzt sagst du, hey, wenn etwas besser wird, werden wir das an den großen Kanal bewegen und sicher machen, dass wir Baseball haben und den, der kaum verteilt ist.

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Und deshalb versuchen wir, unser Produkt auf so viele Leute wie möglich zu bringen, was jetzt eine deklinierende Plattform ist. Die Zahl der Leute mit ESPN, und du wirst zu diesem stimmen, ist seit der Höhe sehr hoch. Are you denying that?

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Well, I had a lovely time with Mr. Lebitard on his show. We had a lovely nothing personal show today. And I'm topping off the day with a bunch of amazingly interesting meetings, followed by a few movies that I will be watching. It's a 24-hour day for me. That's what I do on my birthday. I stay awake the entire 24 hours so I can milk every second out of the day.

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And I want to point out... Pablo, you say that, but it never leaves. So once you've run a team, I still always think about it from the perspective as from the commissioner's office, from ownership, from being a president. And John, no matter how far he gets away from the president of ESPN, he'll always be that. And that's fine. That's his perspective of everything.

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Und der Grund, warum es uns wichtig ist, ist, dass wir uns nicht als zweitgrößeres Sport betrachten wollten. We didn't ever want to lose a bake-off. And we had these with our regional TV deals, too, because you know all the regional networks had the deuces and the traces.

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We had a deal in baseball, as an example, that we would never be moved off the main regional network if there's a competition with a hockey game or a basketball game, that we get priority no matter what. Und manchmal kriegst du das in voll, manchmal nicht.

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Aber es war etwas, was uns immer am meisten geholfen hat, das wir als die Nummer 1 Priorität von unseren Partnern betrachten wollten, wenn wir Jewel-Events hatten oder wenn wir große Events während der Saison hatten, wie ein Opening-Day, All-Star-Game, etc.

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Go back to 2012 when you and I were together, way before Metal Ark was even a kernel of a thought. And go back to where you were in April of 2012, opening of Marlins Park, a game against the St. Louis Cardinals to start the season. Any recollection of being there? I do have a recollection of being there. Erinnerst du dich an den Kampf, der stattgefunden hat, dass du dieses Spiel gewonnen hättest?

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Du, denn du warst Präsident von ESPN.

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Wir hatten Ossie Guillen als Manager, der seine Liebe für Castro nicht verweigert hat. Jose Reyes, Mark Burley. Wir hatten die Off-Saison gewonnen. Wir waren die Talk of Baseball. Unser M war eigentlich das Top-Selling-Item an der Zeit. Und wie du, und ich werde nie vergessen, Deine Präsenz, denn du hast natürlich eine so großartige Präsenz, sowohl in Höhe als auch in Angst.

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I watched it last night from 2.20 to 4.30.

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Aber deine Präsenz war so, dass du so enttäuscht warst, was wir in Miami gemacht haben und kollektiv als Sport.

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It's absolutely fine for you all to think that. And it's 12 years ago, so I don't want to belabor it. But I just would mention about this divorce that's taking place. It is not an example where after a divorce, if the older man is all of a sudden parading around with a 20-year-old beauty queen and you say, oh, I won the divorce.

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This is going to be very easy for us to measure because either baseball is going to be right or wrong. And my view is they're going to be right. But John, it's going to be a very simple equation. And I'm not talking about the spin because I and you can ask Coca this.

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We spend plenty of time criticizing the commissioner, the commissioner's office and other owners over what they do and say and how they spin. We'll know if they're spinning and we'll know if they got a deal that was actually better than what they had.

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No, it's about 3.25 with a one-minute home media intermission. Oh, you're right. So, it's about 3.24 of running time, and I got it all in, I promise, including the credits.

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Don't mislead our 5am Schrumers. It was a different set of assets that went into the deal. Things were pulled out, which is what caused the number to go down. And MLB was then able to take a playoff package and go elsewhere with it. And it ended up being an increase. How do I know? Because we got a bigger distribution of money year two than year one. So, that's first of all.

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And John, are you nodding because you're with me? Yeah. So, Pablo, you missed that part.

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Scott Boris is on a media tour right now, trying to say that the NBA is 10 years behind. He basically talked about your deal and our deal with BAMTECH. Und er hat viel Zeit in den Medien verbracht und gesagt, dass Baseball nie die NBA sein wird, dass sie die Ratings nicht haben, sie sind eine Dekade hinter sich und sie hatten etwas Gutes und dann haben sie es verkauft.

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Die Streaming-Rechte wurden verkauft. Er versteht nicht, und ich hoffe, dass die Publikation jetzt klar sein kann, What was sold and what the deal was, was really technology. It was a tech deal. It was not the streaming rights. Where baseball has a problem and what they're trying to fix is that streaming rights are held locally by each team.

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And the advantage that the NBA and that the NFL have, and certainly the NFL is number one here, is they collect everything and then sell it as a package and they're able to get more money for it. And that's what baseball wants to do.

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And I agree. And I want to go back to Pablo, you mentioning the Roku deal and the Apple deal. ESPN, there's no way whoever is in charge at ESPN, whether it's Bob, Jimmy, take whoever you want. They didn't say, oh, look, Roku spent 10 million. That's what we should be spending. It's absolutely ridiculous. The Roku deal. is for some Sunday games, like 18 of them.

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And the Apple deal is for Friday night games. There's no postseason, there's no jewel events, there's none of it. And forget exclusive windows like ESPN had on a Sunday night, which are now available to be sold on a Sunday night again to somebody else. So nobody, not even Scott Boris can argue that it's apples to apples doing Roku and Apple, pun intended, with this ESPN deal. Musik

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Du bist ein junger Mann. Ich wäre glücklich, diese Zeit an die beiden von euch zu vermitteln. Es ist mein absoluter Vergnügen. Ich habe mich im Grunde genommen auf die Bühne geworfen. Das ist eine gemischte Metapher von dem, was in der Sportwissenschaft passiert. Wir haben die Show in einer Woche oder zwei nicht gemacht. Ich weiß nicht, wie lange es gedauert hat.

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Are you saying that that's today? Because that was true when Bud Selig was Commissioner and we worked very hard to get that average actually going down because we viewed that all of our fans were just, if you keep having a demographic that's aging, eventually they croak. Und du bist zu null. Also haben wir das umgekehrt.

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Und jedes Jahr, jedes Jahr für die letzten drei oder vier Jahre meiner Karriere und seit 2017, jedes Jahr ist die average age of baseball viewers has gone down. Und es war nie 60, by the way. Es war 58.

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It's different, but again, we don't have, I keep saying we, excuse me, they do not have the bundle to sell the way the NBA does or the way the NFL does, which is why they're trying to get into that position. If everything were equal,

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everything the nfl would get more than the nba and major league baseball but nba and major league baseball would be super close and they would be in second place by a fairly high number what i'm interested in seeing is once all the local streaming rights and many of the local rights are actually under one umbrella within baseball then we'll be able to figure out

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ob sie mehr Nationale Tage bekommen, so wie Adam Silver es gemacht hat, mehr exklusive Fenster, so wie Adam Silver es gemacht hat, weil es schon mehr Bidder gibt, John. Damals war du, ESPN, unser Vater. Wir hatten sehr wenig andere Auswirkungen, als dich zu handeln.

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Und ich konnte John nicht erreichen, weil er so beschäftigt ist. Denn auch wenn wir nicht tapen, ich mag es, John zu nennen und diese Themen zu diskutieren, weil es so faszinierend ist, seinen Anspruch zu hören. und wie absolut präsentierbar und falsch ich denke, dass es auf so vielen dieser Themen ist.

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I don't mean it to be that. I just mean it to be that now MLB will have many more than one bidder. Let's face it, why did the NBA get a triple? You know, because there was more than one bidder. And WBD was in a position where we can argue till we're blue in the face that they were going to bid, bid, bid and then be okay with not winning.

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Baseball now, they think, and we're going to find out, they think there are more bidders than have existed in the past, and they plan to take advantage of that fact in order to drive the price up.

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I may be confused about something. Why was ESPN showing, was it the Korean Baseball League? Was it the Filipino Baseball League? I can't remember what it was when there was no baseball going on during COVID and there were no sports. And in order to try to keep their subscription revenue, cable revenue, they had an obligation to show something.

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And so they were just throwing whatever they could on TV. I may have made that up.

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John, you agree with what I'm saying. Because you had to replace it with crap. And if that had lasted longer, your entire financial model would have disappeared.

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But you're not counting sub-revenue. All of a sudden you're going to say that ad revenue is the driver of these deals when you know very well that ad revenue is a tiny little component of why you do these deals.

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Das ist deine Schokoladen-Chip-Analogie. Das ist gut. Mach ohne die Baseball-Chips und schließlich hast du eine Zucker-Cookie.

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Well, they're looking for way more than a triple. And they're out there. And it's interesting. You've got bidders for it. All these, you know, I'd love to talk for a second about Netflix and how interested they are in not doing live events. And all they do is live events. And I was watching SAG recently, the last, the award show. Live on Netflix. Live on Netflix. And Netflix is a bidder.

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That's right. The SAG Awards are sports now, John.

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Wenn man sich das anschaut, ist es für mich viel mehr ein Supply-Issue. Und das größte Issue, das wir haben, ist, dass es 162 regelmäßige Saison-Games gibt, mit nur einem Monat Post-Saison. Und was wir versucht haben zu machen, und wir haben eine schwierige Zeit mit der Union, ist, dass wir versuchen, die regelmäßige Saison kürzer zu machen und die Post-Saison länger zu machen.

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Nun, wir haben definitiv eine Runde mit der Wildcard-Runde eingeführt. Love the idea of the one and done, where the Game 7 thing that happens, where more people pay attention, both advertisers and social relevance, cultural relevance. But I don't agree that it's anything other than we're flooding the market with games. And what used to be an amazing...

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Amount of money that would come because of that, that has now changed. And I want to say what I mean, John, because when you're negotiating with the Regional Sports Network and you're providing 150 games, because that's all we could offer, and you're offering three-hour games plus pre and post, you are taking up a lot of programming time for these RSNs who are collecting huge sums of money.

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Das ganze finanzielle Modell hat sich jetzt verändert und Baseball ist jetzt mit all diesem Inventar verbunden, um herauszufinden, wie man es monetisieren kann, wenn die Union nicht hilfreich ist, weil die anderen Ligen viel längere Postsaisonen haben.

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Ich weiß wirklich nicht, wie ich das sagen kann, John, in einer Weise, die du vielleicht nicht verstanden kannst.

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Es ist ESPNs Schuld. Nein, weil die besten Spieler im Fußball nicht Englisch sprechen und sich nicht so gut fühlen. Und es ist ein großes Problem mit Marketing, weil die Veranstaltungen, die sie machen, nicht mit ihnen sprechen. Sie haben keine Patrick Mahomes im Fußball. Wir wollten Mike Trout als die Person sein. Er kam raus und sagte, ich will nicht diese Person sein.

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Und ich will nicht, dass das zu einem sensiblen wird. Es ist kein Rassismusproblem. Nein, nein, nein, aber das ist... Das ist eine echte Sache, Pablo.

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I think the number of NBA players known by a group will be the same as the number of MLB players. There's 15 on an NBA team, there's 26 on an MLB team. The superstars are recognized, but there are definite issues because what makes someone more recognizable is being more present nationally, both while they're playing And also while they're promoting.

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And baseball has a problem because there's not a lot of national inventory. And there's not a lot of national commercials. That's just my view of it. And if you disagree, you disagree.

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That's exactly right. But that's what's now changing. Because it has to. Because you're exactly right. Because all the teams would never vote to give another national window. Every team in baseball was Jim Dolan. Yeah. And when you have more than 23 Jim Dolans, you can't get anything done. But now in baseball there are way fewer Jim Dolans.

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Again, you're going to have a problem with... John, if you brought Aaron Judge and Kyle Kuzma into your office Eighty out of eighty people will know Aaron Judge and one out of eighty will be able to point out Kyle Kuzma if you put him in a lineup.

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I have a little tear in my eye that someone allocated three straight hours in the middle of the night. That's my kind of audience. And it just means we're doing something right.

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The Sporting Class: MLB and ESPN's Divorce

401.61

Oh, it definitely feels like a divorce. It feels like that it has been building up for a long time. The relationship, in my opinion, has been mediocre with occasional doses of crappiness since my early years in the game and with John at the helm, where we were so busy, worried and kissing his arse. um mehr Aufmerksamkeit, mehr Liebe, mehr Geld zu bekommen. Und es kam niemals.

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The Sporting Class: MLB and ESPN's Divorce

427.938

Und dann hat Baseball endlich gemerkt, dass es andere Tanzpartner gibt. Und es war Zeit. Und wie bei vielen Verabschiedungen, ist es für ein bisschen langweilig, bis es unverzichtbar wird. Und dann entscheidet man sich, das Rippkord zu drücken.

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The Sporting Class: MLB and ESPN's Divorce

484.36

Der Ausgangspunkt hat sich gebaut. Wenn du einen Ausgangspunkt sagen willst, erinnere dich daran, dass dies ein gemeinsamer Ausgangspunkt ist, was bedeutet, dass es nicht wie ein Spieler-Ausgangspunkt mit einem Vertrag im Sport ist, Das war eine Situation, in der sowohl Baseball als auch ESPN das Recht hatten, aus dem Deal zu optieren.

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The Sporting Class: MLB and ESPN's Divorce

512.315

I don't have any information about who made the decision first.

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The Sporting Class: MLB and ESPN's Divorce

67.46

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The Sporting Class: MLB and ESPN's Divorce

674.172

First of all, we're misleading our audience. This was not a PR statement. This was a memo that was sent to MLB owners by the commissioner.

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The Sporting Class: MLB and ESPN's Divorce

706.11

Oh, I think it was written like all memos are to owners as though they will be released immediately. And as a matter of fact, if I'm baseball, I'm more than happy to have this released so that everyone is clear about what's happening. Because the most important part of the memo was pointing out to owners in no uncertain terms, they're going to be fine.

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The Sporting Class: MLB and ESPN's Divorce

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And we are getting away from a partner that was not valuing our relationship or our assets in the way that other partners will. And you can't write that memo to an owner and then leak it if you do not have a deal that you know you're going to cut.

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The Sporting Class: MLB and ESPN's Divorce

74.741

What are you, like my mother? Are you aging backwards? No, no, I was trying to make a pun on ketchup. I understood. It just wasn't all that creative or funny.

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The Sporting Class: MLB and ESPN's Divorce

896.946

You understand that economically, if you have to go to four places and if you add up the four, it's greater than what you get from one place, you've gotten more money. So you may be right that there's going to be different partners that they have, a broadcast partner, a streaming partner. Sie werden die Highlights verkaufen können.

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The Sporting Class: MLB and ESPN's Divorce

915.192

Es gibt auch die Chance, dass ESPN, weil sie es gesagt haben, sie wollen lokalen Rechte an bestimmte Teams. Und wenn du es alle zusammenfängst, ist das die Art, wie die Verkäufer es sehen. Aber John, ich kann es nicht, egal wo ich sitze oder welcher Tag der Woche es ist. Ich kann dich nicht wegwerfen mit dem, was du gerade gesagt hast, weil es nicht richtig ist.

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The Sporting Class: MLB and ESPN's Divorce

935.319

When you talk about all of the baseball that was talked by Mike and Mike and the top tens were full of baseball, when you take an opening day of a season and you want to move it to the deuce and you're unwilling to do anything with ABC and you're unwilling to do any sort of outside of prime window or you just want the one o'clock window for regular ESPN, but then at night you're going to show ESPN

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The Sporting Class: MLB and ESPN's Divorce

963.012

We would have memos internally about exactly where our game is. ... und genau die Realität, dass ESPN uns behandelt hat. Und ich bin nicht wie ein schmerzhafter Lieber, weil du das, was du willst, machst. Es ist dein Netzwerk. Das ist gut.

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The Sporting Class: MLB and ESPN's Divorce

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Aber dann fragst du nicht, warum wir fühlen, als ob wir nicht richtig behandelt werden, wenn du in der Tat die Entscheidungen machst, wie du Baseball und seine Programmierung allocierst.

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NFL With Brian Baldinger, NFL Trade Deadline, College Football + We Elect A President

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Now we're getting to some fucking fiery policies.

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NFL With Brian Baldinger, NFL Trade Deadline, College Football + We Elect A President

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And we also are going to talk some college football. Hey, it's John Gruden. If you know me, you know I love nerding out on stats, baby. And when it comes to impressive stats, I think Chevy Silverado is the undisputed champ. We're talking best in class, 430 pound feet of standard torque thanks to a Turbo Max engine.

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NFL With Brian Baldinger, NFL Trade Deadline, College Football + We Elect A President

91.879

The most functional bed of any competitor, including an available multi-flex tailgate and capability ready to take on any challenge. Think of it this way, if Silverado were a rookie quarterback hitting the combine, it would be game over. I mean, capability, versatility, and strength, that's MVP status. So head to chevy.com and score huge with Silverado today. Okay, let's go.

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Minnesota Timberwolves Julius Randle, MNF, Cowboys In Disarray and Bears Start Firing, College Football Talk + Guys On Chicks

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Hard line. Howard sets up backside, looks, dumps it down, has a wide open receiver, G. Scott. Touchdown, Buckeye.

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Minnesota Timberwolves Julius Randle, MNF, Cowboys In Disarray and Bears Start Firing, College Football Talk + Guys On Chicks

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First down to the 25, four for two, and a fumble on the play. Ohio State is there. They pick it up and run it in for a touchdown. Yeah.

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Minnesota Timberwolves Julius Randle, MNF, Cowboys In Disarray and Bears Start Firing, College Football Talk + Guys On Chicks

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I presume that Mike Tyson is watching this right now. Is there anything you want to say to him?

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NBA Commissioner Adam Silver, Joe Burrow, Max Parties With The Eagles + Guys On Chicks And Fyre Fest

2779.211

Yeah. He's like, he broke his face. Drew was like, I like that guy, but he broke his neck off. He broke his face.

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NBA Commissioner Adam Silver, Joe Burrow, Max Parties With The Eagles + Guys On Chicks And Fyre Fest

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Little boy ass. Did you say that at all during the Super Bowl? No, but the original tweet was about Travis Kelsey.

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NBA Commissioner Adam Silver, Joe Burrow, Max Parties With The Eagles + Guys On Chicks And Fyre Fest

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Yeah. I think I'm going to dunk. There's no way. I think I'm going to dunk. Have you ever dunked before? I've never dunked, but I think I'm going to train and dunk.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Hey, Pardon My Take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Today is Pardon My Take, week 18 in the NFL, and we finally have a playoff bracket to talk about. We had a lot of games, a lot of meaningless games. We're going to talk about all of them. We had coach firings. Hank is going to get a new coach.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Yeah, and Carson to Carson, their stat line, Carson Wentz was 10 for 17 for 98 yards. Carson Steele was 8 rushes for 25 yards.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Were you obliged, Max, in 6-11? There's no way you think that's how you say that word.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

1012.621

Okay, your Carson power rankings. I got Carson Steele 1, Johnny Carson 2, and then Carson Wentz 3 for how they performed tonight.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Okay, so I've got Carson Daly 1, Carson Steele 2, Carson Wentz... No, Johnny Carson 3. Yeah, Johnny Carson had a better day. Carson Palmer. Carson Palmer 4. Carson City. Carson City 5. What other Carsons we got?

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Ben Carson. Ben Carson, six. Tomorrow, Monday, January 6th. That's a top day for Ben Carson.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Yeah, Carson Beck, seven. He just declared for the draft. That doesn't mean he's going to get drafted, but he declared for the draft. Yeah, this was a big weekend for Carson, except for Wentz. I'm at seven. I'm trying to think. Are there any others? I guess I'll just then go seven Carson Wentz.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

1074.595

Okay, so put him seven, and then eight would be Carson Beck. You know what? Put eight... Carson, just parentheses, TikToker. You know there is one. I don't fucking know. It could be a last name or whatever. I don't fucking know. But there's definitely a famous TikToker named Carson.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

1092.572

Carson Wentz needs to be. He's relegated to the Carson Championship Division.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

1096.076

Yeah. So Carson Wentz will be number nine Carson for me. Yep. That feels right. As for the Broncos, congratulations to the Broncos for making the playoffs. It's actually an awesome story. This is the first time they've been in the playoffs in eight years. This is a franchise that... 18 months ago, two years, less than two years ago, was like, where are we going?

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Because it was Russell Wilson on a terrible contract, Nathaniel Hackett for 13 games or whatever it was getting fired. They had no way out. And then they get Sean Payton, and it wasn't great last year. But Sean Payton, I owe you an apology. You're a hell of a coach. Bo Nix, I owe you an apology. You had a phenomenal rookie season. And the Denver Broncos are back in the playoffs.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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And if you're a Broncos fan, this has to feel awesome. Because there are certain teams in these playoffs, and we'll get to it, and we'll talk about it all week. Lamar Jackson and the Ravens have the most pressure of any team ever. Bills and Josh Allen as well. The Broncos are on gravy train.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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That doesn't mean that they're not going to try to win playoff games and get to the Super Bowl, but if you're a Broncos fan, getting to the playoffs in the first year of Bo Nix and having your franchise turn around, get out from under Russell Wilson, turn around this fast, have the future look this bright, have your defense be phenomenal. Whatever happens in the playoffs...

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Next year in the offseason is going to be a great time just getting pumped for Broncos football.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Yeah, this season is a clear win for the Denver Broncos. Clear win. You've already won. Congratulations. Yeah, but it's going to be tough going to Buffalo. I don't envy them for that, but it doesn't matter. You are playing with zero pressure in this game. So yeah, they shut out the Chiefs. Shut him out. Get Carson Wentz off TV forever.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Didn't even make it... We went into today and we knew all the playoff iterations. Obviously, we'll get to the Bengals Saturday night game. They were still alive and the Jets and Dolphins had implications. I just wanted this game to be a little bit of drama. But the Broncos were just too good. And it's all credit to the Broncos. Because there is a world where the pressure of that game...

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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a win and get in for the Broncos. They have, like, weird shit happen. And you just knew it was their day on, I think it was the second or third touchdown pass by Bo Nix where it hit six different hands from the Chiefs. They got the Chiefs magic. Yeah, they got the Chiefs magic.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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That's some shit that would happen to the Kansas City Chiefs if Patrick Mahomes threw that pass.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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But this also is set up, the Chiefs, you know, they're set up for the playoffs. I know they're going to have whatever, 25 days off or whatever it might be if they play on a Saturday or Sunday, 24 days off. They'll win their first game. in the divisional round. Do you guys all agree? It will be either the Texans, Chargers, Ravens, Broncos.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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If I had to say the only team that I would say the Chargers just because it's division and third time because the Broncos It's tough to beat a team three times a year. No, the Ravens they wouldn't play the Ravens until the AFC Championship. The Broncos obviously in division third time but this game wasn't The Chiefs didn't have their starters play.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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The game was over before they even touched down in Denver, right? Because Kansas City was delayed so much.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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They didn't take off till like, what, 7 p.m. last night to get there?

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

1298.872

Well, the game was over when Carson Wentz, his wife, put out the, you know, whatever the fuck that was.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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The game was over when he set foot inside Ben's warehouse.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Yeah. Yeah, and he was like, you know what? Give me all the accoutrements. I want a vest. I want a hat. Chargers could do it. Oh, you're going to do that now. Harbaugh. Okay, Hank. I was just doing trolling. Tough to beat a team three times. Trolling, trolling, trolling.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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But yeah, credit to Sean Payton and Broncos fans. You should be over the moon because the future is just so bright. And it just has to feel so good knowing that you turned it all around that quickly. And eight years, I've said it a million times before, but the Broncos were one of those franchises that was the gold standard. And just they never really had bad years.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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And I think they're one of the only teams that hasn't picked number one overall. They, you know... won Super Bowls with John Elway, won one with Peyton Manning. We're always, like, in the mix. So these eight years have been very tough for the Broncos, and now it feels like you're starting a new, opening up a new window of, hey, we're going to be back to what we were.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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We're going to be in the playoff picture year in and year out. You got new ownership. Yeah. Turned everything around.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Yeah, the Waltons. The Walmart money. Yeah, that Walmart money. Yeah, I am happy for Broncos fans. This has been big for them. And Bo Nix, thank God Sean Payton looked inside his backpack. Yes. It was like, what's in the bag?

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, Denver is a football town. They love their fucking Broncos. And if they wear those uniforms every day, like every game, every time I see them in the uniforms, like, man, I kind of love the Broncos.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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But those uniforms are so good that all it does is make me mad. They don't wear them every week. Exactly. That's how good they are. And it's just something.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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You've got to wear those in the playoffs, right? Those are playoff uniforms. I don't know, though. On the road, you don't get to decide. The Bills will probably wear blue, right? I would assume the Bills will wear blue, yeah. So they'll have to wear white. The Broncos will. Yeah. So that sucks. Maybe just do the powder blue uniforms. I mean, the helmets. Go with the helmets.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Yeah, you can go. Yeah, the blue helmets, all white jerseys.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

1426.432

Yeah. Okay, next game. Bengals 19, Steelers 17. So this obviously happened Saturday night. The Broncos game made this irrelevant, but for 24 more hours, the Bengals were alive. They are not alive anymore. They did not make it to the playoffs. They ended the season with a win. Kind of hot, but... That's got to be one of the most frustrating seasons for a fan base I can remember in a long time.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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And not like frustrating the Jets or the Bears or the Giants. You had Joe Burrow in an all-time season, Jamar Chase, who got the triple crown, and you just didn't get a shot at the playoffs. And it's like a what if in your head. I don't think they would have done a lot of damage because of that defense, even though the defense has been playing better. Yeah. That what if would drive me insane.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

1477.343

No, we can say right now Chiefs really dodged a bullet by getting the Bengals bounced.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

1481.045

Yeah, the Bengals just weren't a very good team. They just weren't there. You have to be able to play defense and stop somebody occasionally. How weird does that week one game look now?

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Week one, Bengals lose to the Patriots. That cost the Patriots the number one pick overall in the draft, and it also kept the Bengals out of the playoffs.

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Kept the Bengals out of the playoffs, and the weird part about the Bengals' season is On Saturday night against the Steelers, it was their defense that saved them because that first drive was on easy mode for Joe Burrow. And then they didn't score. They didn't get a touchdown again. And Trey Hendrickson was an absolute monster. They came up with stop after stop. He had three and a half sacks.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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He gets the season record. So he's 17 and a half sacks on the season, leads the league. I still, every time I watch him, especially in the cold without gloves on, I get very intimidated. And yeah, I don't know what to have your defense finally play that type of game. It's like, goddammit, everything just – nothing worked at the right time for the Bengals. They just ran out of time on everything.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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When was the last time a team finished with the best passer, most yards, the top receiver, and the top sack person and missed the playoffs?

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Yeah, or 8 or whatever it was. Yeah, whatever that year was. Yeah. But is it – it's extra – like – If you're the Bengals, it already was frustrating knowing you needed a lot of help this weekend. But then to have a game like Saturday night where your defense finally bowed up and made stop after stop, and your defense has looked a little bit better down the stretch, nope, not going to happen.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Not going to happen. Pickens put up, I think, one catch for zero yards in this game. Was so bad. Looked checked out. Not on the same page. Yeah. Not on the same page. Turns out who gets the blame for that deep pass that I think Russ missed him on that one. Russ didn't play well either.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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I think Russ missed him. It was very funny because I was watching. I went to Derek Rose night and then I came home and I got the last like three minutes of the Bengals Steelers game. And I was watching in bed, and my wife was like, who are you talking about who's not on the same page as Russ? And as she said it, it was that pass that would have won them the game. And I was like, it was that guy.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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And he laid there, and he was so frustrated, and he dropped. Yeah, he had one catch for zero yards, six targets. Yep. I think three drops. I don't know what the Steelers. The Steelers just do the same season every year. And it's obviously the reason for it is that since Roethlisberger, they've been in just complete quarterback purgatory where they've been taking shots at guys year after year.

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But they've lost four in a row. Three out of four of them were two legit playoff teams, the fourth being the Bengals. They look like completely lost on offense. They did kind of fix it on defense, finally, but this is what happens every single year. That third and one and fourth and one at the end of the first half when they couldn't get a yard. Yep.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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they're just not a threat yeah they're not a threat and by by always being right around 500 but a little bit better than 500 they do miss on the opportunity to get quarterback so they're probably going to do another bridge quarterback yeah or rogers or yeah maybe rogers kirk cousins i don't know i don't know who you're going to bring in but they're not going to be in a position to draft one at least one that's any good and so it's like you're going to see the the exact same steelers season repeat itself over and over again in the future

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Yeah, I saw a meme. It was like two hallways. Like Steelers start well, Steelers start poorly, and then both of the hallways led to 10-6 bounce in the first round of the playoffs.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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But the thing is, they could beat the Ravens. The Ravens are obviously a much, much better team right now. And on paper, it seems like the Ravens should dog walk them.

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Yeah, it is. And they were, if Russ doesn't fumble in that game a couple weeks ago, like going in, they would be up 14-7. They already beat the Ravens once this year. I don't think they're going to beat the Ravens because I just don't know where the offense is going to come from. But maybe it's one of those weird Lamar throws a couple picks. and you get a lucky fumble.

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I saw a highlight reel of Lamar Jackson's interceptions this year. I think he's thrown what? Four. Four of them?

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And I think three of the four were like tipped balls that weren't really his fault, like either deflected off his teammate's hand or something like that. Lamar's just not turning the ball over this year. But in a weird way, Although you'd like to see, if you're the Steelers, you would much rather go play against the Chargers or something like that. I guess it wouldn't be the Chargers. The Texans.

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You would much rather play against the Texans. But I feel like they have a decent chance against the Ravens.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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If you're a Ravens fan, the Steelers are not the team you wanted to see. And I'm not saying that the Steelers are anywhere near as good as the Ravens. The Ravens are far, far better than the Steelers. Uh, it's just the familiarity and how these teams always play has to scare you because it's just a, you know, single elimination, a fluke bounce and the Steelers are the best at fluke bounce.

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But I just, I feel bad for Steelers fans, not in a way that like, uh, not when Billy said he felt bad for us. I feel bad in the fact that. You can't complain if you're a Steelers fan because you go to the playoffs routinely and Mike Tomlin never goes under 500, but you can complain because it's so frustrating living in this purgatory.

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It's the last week of the regular season, Teej. May us be the last to wish you a happy 2024 NFL League year.

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And I understand, like, as much as I love Mike Tomlin, when Steelers fans are like, I'm sick of this, get me off this ride, I'm starting to realize, like, yeah, they're actually right to be able to complain the

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You're good adjacent. You're good, and you're good enough to know how you lack that one thing that will put you into being a very good team.

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You're good-ish, and you're always going to be good-ish. You're going to play teams hard, but you're probably not going to do anything in the playoffs.

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You're going to win a couple games you didn't expect to win during the course of the season. You're going to lose a couple games you didn't expect to lose, and then you're going to end up with a six or seven seed and then lose in the playoffs.

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There's only one way to break this if you're the Steelers and you're getting your bridge quarterback and you want a guy that's going to take chances. And if it goes well, it's going to be electric, but completely reset the identity of what your offense has been. And that's James Winston.

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You get Jameis in there, worst case scenario, you finish with a bad enough record where maybe you could draft a better quarterback. I like that.

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If things go right, it's completely different. It is the antidote to everything that you've been in the last four seasons. I like that a lot.

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Jameis. Jameis and Pittsburgh. Jameis and Pittsburgh. Get it done. Do you think the Bengals re-sign T. Higgins? No. I was leaning no. And it's probably still no. But Joe Burrow, that was as direct as you can get. You don't let that guy out the door.

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We start in Pittsburgh where Mike Tomlin thought he had a job for life after Pat Friermuth, Bader Ginsburg scored a second-half touchdown to bring the Steelers back. Jamar Chase Ventura and Alrighty Higgins. Jim carried the offense on a cold night in the Steel City.

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And Joe Burrow is your franchise quarterback. I... Maybe.

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I mean, you should. Maybe. I want to be very clear. I'm not saying that you shouldn't. Will they? I don't think that they will, especially if they do move from Zach Taylor, which I guess is a possibility.

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I mean, how much of this season can you put on the head coach, though? He would be one of the best coaches to be fired. Yeah, he definitely gets blamed for this season. So it's a pretty big failure. Yeah. Given the talent that you have and the expectations, he's got to get some of it.

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Listen, we love Joe Burrow, friend of the program, but this does feel the famous window speech he gave. Remember when he was like, the window's always open when I'm here? This feels like a cursed season from that. Yeah.

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It's like, no, because you can have the windows not always open because the NFL and the ball bounces wrong a couple games and you're having a career year and still out of the playoffs. Yeah. Yeah.

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He also told the burglars that his windows always open.

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Yeah, that's true. We should have. This is why we need NFL Bulls. I'd watch the Bengals in the Pop-Tarts Bowl. Yeah. I mean, just give it to us.

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Okay, so Bengals, who would you have them play in a bowl?

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I would have in a bowl game. Maybe the Falcons? The Falcons would be a good one. 49ers. Bengals Cardinals? What about Bengals Seahawks? Bengals Seahawks would be good.

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That would be a good game. Bengals Panthers. Bengals Panthers would be fun. A little Andy Dalton revenge.

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Yeah. Yeah, I'd watch that bowl game. Give us one bowl game. Do it, you know, I don't know, Thursday night after the first round so that we can still have Thursday night football and have it be for, I don't know, $10 million extra in cap space. You don't think the Bengals would do that?

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Yeah, which is like we're still not resigning. Yeah, they'd have it.

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Can you trade cap space? Because I think the Bengals would do that.

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Okay, next game. Chargers 34, Raiders 20. So this is the other consequential game. So the Steelers losing and the Chargers winning. The Chargers get the five seed. They go to Houston on wildcard, super wildcard weekend. This was Chargers finishing 11-6 on the season. Incredible turnaround. Quentin Johnson was insane in this game.

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I think he finished with 13 catches, 186 yards, making awesome catches. And the Chargers finished the season strong. I feel like, Hank, they could beat the Texans. They're favored against the Texans. I think they will beat the Texans. And then they'd have to go to Arrowhead. I would ride them. What's wrong with you right now? I'm sick. You are?

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Yeah, I guess I didn't really notice because you were... Is that why you've been a little chippy today? Because you're on medicine? Are you a little loopy?

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You have been a little... Have you noticed Hank's been a little like... Hank was very feisty.

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In an episode of RuPaul's Drag Race, Queen had a sack, but it wasn't enough, as Russ Wilson thought he had unlimited timeouts in the end, only to go out as sad as possible. Bengals, 19. Steelers, 17. Whoop! Whoop!

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He's got a towel. She's got a cum towel? Oh, that's Stu's towel.

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it's news comes out yeah i think the chargers uh yeah could make some noise i think they're officially my make some noise category i mean the way herbert's playing yes yeah he's playing really well yeah he's running with the ball well i i'm not gonna put anything past harbaugh the jim harbaugh can 100 beat the texans yes uh what do we think about what the raiders are gonna do

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Brock Powers, by the way, finished over 1,000 yards. Phenomenal season. Rookie record for catchers, too. I kind of think he might be a bridge quarterback in place.

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He might be good enough for the Raiders to go into next season and be like, you know what, let's just run it back and let's have AOC and Gardner Minshew battle it out this offseason. We'll see who's going to be QB1. Yeah. Do you think they're going to fire Antonio Pierce?

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I think they might because I think Tom Brady, like your good friend Mike Florio was saying, is going to be leaning a lot more heavily into decision-making than his 1% stake ownership would lead you to believe.

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Yeah. Is there a chance Mike Vrabel can coach three different teams at the same time?

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Yeah, he absolutely can do it. Actually, can you grab Shane? Shane is our Chargers fan. He said he might go to this game. He said he might go to this game if it's the Saturday afternoon game, and I was like, dude, it's the Saturday afternoon game. Don't worry about it.

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Yeah. Haul. But he's never been to a Chargers game. He's never been to Texas. Never been to Texas. Never been on an airplane. He's never seen a football game live.

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God help you. All right, Shane. What's up? Chargers talk real quick for the people. Shane is a diehard Chargers fan. He's wearing one of his finest Chargers sweatshirts. I didn't realize you were sick. Changes my whole perspective on today. Do you have a fever? I thought you were in a good mood today.

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I didn't realize you were just fucking doped up on NyQuil or DayQuil or whatever the fuck you're taking. We're all going to get sick. Is that an emergency? Shane, how are we feeling about the Chargers?

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Basically. No? It's the Texans. It's going to be Saturday, Shane.

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Shane, it's going to be Saturday. Okay. So are you going to go? I will try. You need to go. Game time will send you. Come on. I mean, that would be awesome. Yeah. First game. So what are the keys to the playoffs for the Chargers?

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We go down to Tampa where Mike Evansgate escaped blanket coverage and caught a comet from Baker to hit his 11th straight season with 1,000 yards. Take a big bite out of Jerry Rison's legacy. Clyde, the fresh prince of L.A.

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Okay, that's good tour points. Give up little points. Give up little points.

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Like field goals, safeties, those type of points. Can I give you some tips?

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No touchdowns. You've got to run the football, and then you've got to stop the run.

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I don't think I've ever heard little points, but I like it. Little points. Okay. Thank you, Shane. Shane is one of our hardworking guys on PMT. Also Italian. We get too many Italians here. Way too many. Way too many Italians.

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Yeah. Okay. Next up, Ravens 35, Browns 10. The Cleveland Browns got the second pick in the draft, which kind of was out of nowhere. Like, they were going into the season... I don't think anyone thought they were going to be a great team, but no one thought they were going to be the second pick. And then Deshaun showed up and he was terrible.

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And then Jameis showed up and was like, oh, they're definitely not going to be the second pick because he's going to win a couple games. And then they went to the saddest quarterback duo of all time in Bailey Zappi and DTR. That bummed me out watching that game.

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So they scored 10 points, which is actually an improvement of what we've seen from the Browns in the last three weeks. They've now scored 26 points in four games. So is that 6.5 points per game?

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And then Ken Dorsey got fired for not being able to squeeze blood out of a stone. Yep. For not being able to activate DTR appropriately. Yep. But getting fired by the Browns as a coach, that's a prestigious group that you can count yourself among. Yeah. Right? Because didn't Belichick, was he fired? Everyone gets fired by the Browns. Saban was probably fired by the Browns.

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Yeah. When you get fired by the Browns, they probably give you like a nice Rolex.

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Hugh Jackson shows up first to those meetings probably. Hey, guys.

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Hey, what's up, guys? Oh, yeah. We're all awesome. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I won one game in two years. But if you talk to Mike Silver, he'll tell you I got a raw deal.

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slapped the rock a few times with 32 yards on eight carries, while Princess Diana Spencer-Rattler failed many drives with tunnel vision as he was chased around all day by his coach Darren Paparizzi as the Saints fall in their finale. The Bucs, 27. The Saints don't go marching, 19.

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Yeah. But yeah, the season's over for the Browns. You're probably glad. It's probably a good thing for you guys. The Ravens just looked like they were going to continue to be nearly unstoppable. Yeah. It's like on easy mode for Lamar right now. Yeah. Although Zay Flower is getting injured. How injured is he?

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Have you seen an update on that? I know there was an MRI scheduled. I don't know what happened with the MRI. But yes, that is very, very significant. This is a big part.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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yeah uh and mark andrews is like fully fully back because i know there was that stretch of the season was like what's up with mark andrews is isaiah likely the guy no mark andrews the guy uh let's see can we find anything about zay flowers you got look it up max while we talk about the game uh lamar's probably gonna win the mvp it's i don't know it's close it's an awesome mvp i think i hope it's josh

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Lamar, so he's the first player in NFL history to have 4,000 yards passing and 900-plus rushing yards in the same season. He's also the first player in history to have over 40 touchdowns with under five interceptions. 41-4 is what he finished with. He was insane all season.

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It is one of the coolest MVP races we've had because it's such a good MVP race that the guy who has 2,000 yards rushing is, like, not even talked about.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Yeah, so if you're a Ravens fan, are you more confident going into this postseason than you were last year? You have to be because of Derrick Henry.

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But you don't have home field. You don't have home field, but you have to be because of Derrick Henry and what he did this year. Derrick Henry statistically probably had his best season. I know he had a 2,000-yard season, but he carried the ball, I think, 60 or 70 more times that season. He turned 31 on Saturday, and he had 1,921 yards and 16 touchdowns. It's insane what he did this year.

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That is crazy also to think that Derrick Henry's just 31. Yeah. Because in running back years, he might as well be like 60.

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But he had an incredible season, and I think the presence of Derrick... You can't refuse to run the ball like they did last year against the Chiefs when Derrick Henry's in your backfield. That's just a fact. It's almost... You put Derrick Henry there so that you have to remind yourself all the time, oh, yeah, who's that guy who's standing on the sideline who's a beast that no one can tackle?

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Yeah, that's why you get the biggest guy you can find to be your bell cow running back. Right. Because it's impossible to ignore Derrick Henry.

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Right. So, yeah, I think you feel more confident going into this year. I think you are still, though, very nervous because this is the most important playoffs in Lamar's career.

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career i think because he's going to be coming off what most likely is going to be three is it three straight mvps or two straight and then his third i think it's two straight and his third overall yeah and you have everything and i know you'd have home field it might be his best season and he's skinny yeah and you have everything and uh your the defense of the ravens has played a lot better in the in the back half of the season i know their secondary was a worry for a

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Up to the frozen tundra. It was a tough day for guys who are known for Jordan Love. As Matt LaFleur had to put in his backup Malik Willis and Skip Bayless was named in a lawsuit.

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So, yeah, I think this is the, if you had to do the, maybe let's do that on Wednesday. Let's do pressure rankings. Which team has the most pressure? I like that. I think it would be the Ravens. I think Lamar Jackson has the most pressure.

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I would agree. I think if you don't win it this year in Baltimore, you're like, we're never going to get it done.

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If you don't at least get to the Super Bowl. Super Bowls can go 50-50, you know, it's one game. If they don't get to the Super Bowl, if they lose to the Bills or the Chiefs, there's going to be a lot of questions. What are you thinking, Max?

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But they're a really good team. And last year they obviously had home field advantage. They blew that. They've blown home field advantage a couple times as the one seed. You don't think that they're number one in pressure rankings?

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I think the Ravens have the most pressure because Derrick Henry is also not getting younger. And again, Lamar is the best player in the NFL right now, playing the best football. He's going to win an MVP, most likely. I hope it's Josh. But you got to do it. He hasn't been to a Super Bowl. I think it's 1-2, Lamar, Josh, for most pressure in these playoffs.

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Yeah, I was going to say, I think the Bills and the Ravens are just about the exact same. Because they're both fighting the same battle, which is to finally be able to beat the Chiefs.

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Yeah, the only reason I would say the Bills don't have as much pressure is just because this was supposed to be a mini-rebuild year. Where you flip the roster. The Ravens have nine pro bowlers. But once you're there, though. No, I know.

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Once you're there and you've had as good a season as the Bills have had.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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I think... Bill's fans are definitely as nervous as they've ever been.

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Last year they might have had more pressure because that was the end of that roster. And they're home. I know. The Bills are going to be home in that game and favored. We'll save it for pressure rankings on Wednesday. We'll have a debate. Maybe we can go to Supreme Debate. I don't know if we want to go there.

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1.5 mil, Teej. Huh? I can't believe you got turned down for 1.5 mil. How gross is your dick?

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We can think about it. Depends on how sick Hank is. Well, I don't know. I would skip Bayless method.

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He said no. Oh, by the way, Michael Pierce, that interception was awesome. But the bus ran out of gas. Yep. I really wish he had tried to give us a little bit more. Why is that? He's so big. Him running was so funny. He kneeled right away.

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I think it was perfect, though. He was just like, fuck this. Yeah. He was like, I'm already tired. My plays are usually over after four and a half seconds. You can't expect me to run with this football.

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Who do the Browns take with the number two pick? Maybe Cam Ward. I'll say it. I don't know if I would take Shador one or two. I know you're not supposed to say that here, but I'm going to say it. I think I would take Cam Ward before Shador. I would take Cam Ward.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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I have Cam Ward ahead of Shador on my big board. I do too. But I got Travis Hunter number one overall.

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Yeah. I also think that this is not a good QB draft that maybe you just take a really – there's some really good players in this draft that are just not QBs.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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I got Cam Scataboo, number one overall. Number two, I've got- Tyler Crowe? Actually, no, I don't. I have Hunter is two, and then I've got Cam Ward, then Shador. Okay. That's my top four.

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Huh? Speaking of the backup, Malik Phyllis had a fat, ugly day at the office. Keenan Allen Wrench said, watch this six-point play. Psych! As he threw a horrendous interception. But the Bears fought hard as Cairo made everyone's sphincter tighten up as he lined up for the game-winning Egypt shot. Bears 24, Packers 22. Who's your daddy?

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No. All right. Let's take a break with a couple of ads, and then let's talk about Hank firing his coach.

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Okay, uh, oh before we talk Patriots bills breaking moves Breaking moves Breaking moves we do have our playoff schedule so, uh, Jake Marsh went four for six pretty good. He's beating himself up a little bit, but We were exactly right. Chargers and Texans are going to kick it off on Saturday at 4.30 Eastern, 3.30 Central.

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So somebody posted the history of the Texans in this time slot. And 2011, Saturday, 3.30. 2012, Saturday, 3.30. 2015, Saturday, 3.30. 3.30, 2016, Saturday, 3.30, 2018, Saturday, 3.30, 2019, Saturday, 3.30, 2023, Saturday, 3.30, 2024, Saturday, 3.30.

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They beat the Bengals in one of them because the Bengals used to be the king of the Saturday 3.30 and they passed the torch.

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They beat the Raiders in the one that Derek Carr got hurt right before and... Who the fuck started that game? It was, I think an ex Michigan. Oh yes. Yeah. It was, uh, was it a Cooper? No, it was a Michigan state quarterback. Fuck. I think cook. Yes. Yeah. Connor cook, Connor cook. Uh, But yeah, Shane doesn't know ball to be like, oh, the schedule's released? Are you sure it's Saturday at 3?

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It's the Texans. You know what? Part of my take is the first report. The Houston Texans will play on wildcard weekend in 2026, Saturday, 3.30. Yes.

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So we're starting off with the Chargers at the Texans. Then we're doing Steelers at Ravens Saturday night, which I love. The Broncos at the Bills, the early game on Sunday, which we all said was a guarantee. Those are the two guarantees. The early Texans, early Broncos at Bills. Then it is Packers at Eagles. Max, afternoon spot, are you feeling okay? You like it? Yeah, it's a good spot.

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Whoop! Whoop! We go down to Dallas, where Marcus the Virgin Mariota went untouched for a big run to put the Commanders in scoring position, making Dan Quinn look like a wise man for arresting Jesus Christ. Trey Lance Bass said, it's going to be my to win this game. But at the end, it was a cowboy saying bye-bye-bye to Mike McCarthy.

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And then PFT, you have the night game on Sunday. I was a little surprised for the night game on Sunday. I thought you were going to get the Monday night game, to be honest.

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I thought Monday night was a possibility. I thought Saturday night. Sunday, it's like that's the game that they think America wants to watch the most.

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Yeah. And then we have the Minnesota Vikings going to the L.A. Rams on Monday night for the Super Wild Card weekend. So we're very excited. I'm very excited for football. And we have Thursday and Friday football, too. Okay. Patriots at Bills. Patriots win. They blow their shot at the number one pick. It was very clear.

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We had this debate, I feel like, about the Bills maybe throwing it, and you're like, I don't know if they will. They did. They did. They started Josh Allen, Hank. They did start Josh Allen for play. That's 115 straight starts. I think the moment where I was like, yeah, they're not trying to win this game was when they punted from the Patriots' 35-yard line.

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Yeah. They took out Mitch, put in Mike White. We just had Mike White siding. Joe Milton. Joe Milton. Bazooka Joe came out today. Joe Milton looked awesome.

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Yeah. That's what you do. When he scored that rushing touchdown that he did a casual backflip in the end zone afterwards. Man, you might have two great quarterbacks.

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We are still in phase one of the Joe Milton experience.

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Yeah, but still, it's Joe Milton. He can bomb it. And then the big story is... maybe an hour and a half after the game ended, uh, the Patriots officially fired Gerard Mayo. So he's a one and done coach. Uh, pretty crazy because I was it in, uh, like September, Robert Kraft said on a broadcast that he basically picked Gerard Mayo to be the next head coach five years ago. Yeah. Uh,

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I mean, Hank, you wanted this to happen. I feel like this was a smart decision.

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And the fact that Mike Vrabel had just interviewed with the Jets, he was going to interview with the Bears. On Wednesday, I believe. It felt like Robert Kraft was like, I have to make this decision now because Mike's my guy.

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Yeah. Oh, yeah. Really? Oh, yeah. Oh, I didn't realize that. I think there's a good chance that Mike Vrabel went into that interview and just said, fuck you guys. I'm a patriot.

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Yeah. And then left. He actually probably went in there and got a bunch of info on how they run. So he's like, I'm going to be a division foe in a matter of hours.

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He could have got their info on how they run with the latest Madden update.

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Yeah, so the note that Robert Kraft dropped, it was a lengthy breakup note that he published for the world. Did you have a chance to read it?

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Oh, you didn't? You should read it. It's like Robert Kraft opened up his diary. The one part that stuck out to me was when he said... Is Robert Kraft on X the everything? He is not, but the New England Patriots are, and they released this. It's not that lengthy. It's three paragraphs. I mean, come on, Hank.

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Zach Burts earned every dollar this year, scoring his seventh touchdown on the season. And the Commanders are ready for the playoffs. The playoffs? Playoffs? Commanders, 23. Cowboys, 19. We head to Philadelphia where Max was on the scene.

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The fact that he included this in the statement was like...

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I'm trying to escape blame for this. The only reason I hired him was because I thought somebody else would hire him. That was my mistake.

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You got the gist of it. So you are going to get Mike Vrabel. It was basically every fan base that had an opening dreamed of Mike Vrabel. I did that. I know memes did that. If you have an opening, you want Mike inside that opening. Yeah. Even the Raiders did that, and they don't even have an opening. And then this happened. It's like, well, there goes that.

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So Mike Vrabel will be the next coach of the New England Patriots. Do you want to report it first, per Henry Lockwood?

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Me and Big Cat will do it. Yeah. Per PFT and Big Cat. No, per Henry Lockwood. Hank doesn't want to report it.

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No, I know, but you can write whatever you want on a report. That's true, yeah. Good report, Hank. Per Henry Lockwood.

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Okay, so per Henry Lockwood. Yeah. That's put it out. Beliefs system memes is the one. So I, I wanted Mike Vrabel as the coach of the bears, but I also am in a spot and we'll get to the bears package.

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I, I've already mentally moved on from Vrabel and Ben Johnson because I, I've heard some things to the grapevine that the bears are going to end up with like Brian Flores or the DC of the dolphins or, Maybe the Lions. Some random college coach that no one's thinking about. And it's like, oh, okay, this is awesome. So I already moved on. I already moved on. Memes, though.

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Memes is a little upset because Memes was very confident that he was going to get Mike Vrabel. And not only was he confident he was going to get Mike Vrabel, now he has to deal with the fact that Mike Vrabel is going to be going against him in the AFC East. Memes.

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Mike Vrabel's interest in the Jets was just a smokescreen to pressure the Patriots to make a move at head coach. Yep. Makes sense. Damn. You were used. Used and abused.

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Yeah, you were a rebound. Mike Vrabel went on a date with you, took a picture, popped it on Instagram. His ex is like, let's get back together.

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Go back to that one. Go back to that one. Was told that Mike Vrabel's dalliance with the Jets was a pressure on the Patriots to make a move with a young, incredibly promising QB who improved every week and despite very little talent. Did Drake May write this? No, it's John. Aditi Quinwaba. More cap space than anyone in statewide.

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What is this tweet? There's no way that was close to being the correct pronunciation.

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Hank, just report that Mike Vrabel is going to be your next coach so that other teams don't even interview him.

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Okay, but would you say overall, I mean, it feels like you've come out of this bad season, outside of obviously blowing the number one pick today, pretty damn good. You got a lot of cap space, you got Drake May, and you have Mike Vrabel.

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The fact that Schefter said it before the game tells me that somebody knew. People had talked about it. And then to let him go out there, coach the game, win the game, cost you the first overall pick, and all that could have gone along with it for a trade. That's kind of a weird decision. But yeah, it's the first Patriots coach to be fired after his first season since... Rod Rust. Roddy.

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Oh, Rod Rust in 1990. It doesn't happen often, the one and dones. It's probably, you know, it's probably been, what, like 10 of them in the last 20 years or so?

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Yeah. Get rid of a coach one season too early instead of one season too late. And it's actually hard to remember him. Steve Wilks. Oh, what's the guy from the Browns? Chudzinski?

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Did he get one? Nathaniel Hackett. Freddie Kitchens? Was he interim?

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He was a head coach. Shit, we're going head coach. What did you guys do? Two years of Trestman? Frank Wright. Oh, yeah. He had two years for Trestman. Let's see who else. Oh, is there another one in the Cardinals? The Cardinals. No, I don't think so. Oh, this is good. The one and dones. Can we get any more?

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One and dones. Was McAdoo? No, he had two years, right?

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Yeah, Jeff Saturday. He was like one week and done. Yeah.

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The Patriots finished with the second worst record, and they also had probably a very positive season at the same time.

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If you're listening to Cincinnati, Hank can't, but he would love to. If he could, he would love to give you that win. Put you in the playoff. That sucks for Gerard Mayo. But also kind of like in a weird way, It was like you don't want to be the guy who follows the guy, and now they got the buffer guy. It's kind of what you did with Cam Newton, although Mac Jones wasn't the guy after that.

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But the buffer guy is always a good guy because then he's just like, oh, yeah, there was a guy in between.

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Will Compton. I've heard of him. That has a lot to do with the GM, too. Yeah, that's the GM.

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You're going to get Aaron Glenn. He did a great job tonight. It'll be fine.

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The names go on. You see memes is I feel like memes is always one step behind me in the process where it's like I went through this process and I was like, we're not getting Ben Johnson. We're not getting Mike Rabel. You and memes will never be on the same same thought process ever with your team. I understand. I'm saying I'm one step ahead of him.

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We had this discussion the other night where he was like, the difference between me and you is you were in denial. And Memes was like, yeah. I was like, dude, you're still in denial. And he's like, what? We could have won 11 games.

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We could have won 11 games. One season away from what, Memes? Success. Okay. All right, here we go. The one and dones. We got Reich. We got, oh, Lovey Smith was one and done. Yep. Hackett. Cully. Urban Meyer. Could not pick Cully out of a lineup. Urban Meyer. Remember his collars? He always had, like, unusual collars. Yeah. Max just clicked away from that very helpful graphic we had up.

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Fred Kitchens, Chip Kelly. All these guys, do you even say that you used to be a head coach? Obviously, some of them are different. Chip Kelly and Urban Meyer are different. Lovie Smith's different because they coached somewhere else for a very long time. But if you're Steve Wilks, if you're David Culley, do you say to someone, yeah, I was a head coach in the NFL? And they're like, wait, what?

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I think that if you're a David Culley or Steve Wilks and when the time comes and you pass away, it's probably not the first thing that's mentioned about you. No. Like former Texas coach?

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Okay. You know what, Memes? Since we're talking about it. I'd truthfully forgotten that Chip Kelly was the coach of the 49ers.

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Yeah. Yeah. He didn't go well. No. He was, what, two years at the Eagles and then 49ers? I want to say three years with the Eagles. Might have been three years. Yeah. All right. So, Memes, since we're talking about it, let's talk about your big win. You had a huge win.

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massive win Jets 32 Dolphins 20 Aaron Rodgers throws his 500th career touchdown throws three touchdowns look good Ulbricht might be having he might have something cooking memes

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So Aaron Rodgers looked good. Do you think maybe give him an extension? He's going to be a lame duck quarterback next year.

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No. Florio told us exactly what was going to happen. No, he doesn't know. He knows dick. Florio laid it out. Aaron Rodgers doesn't want to have to beg to come back. He wants the Jets to break up with him, and then he can go somewhere else.

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The big story, though, from this game is the Dolphins obviously to it in play. So it didn't matter because the Broncos ended up winning so easily and so quickly. But they had a chance to win and get in if the Broncos had lost. And then after the game, Tyreek Hill said that he, I just got to do what's best for me and my family.

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If that's here or wherever the case may be, I'm going to open that door for myself. I'm opening the door. I'm out, bro. Yep. It was great playing here, but at the end of the day, bro, I got to do what's best for my career. I'm too much of a competitor to just be out there.

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Do you think that's best for his considerably large family, for him to just be like, I'm going to leave the state? I'm out. You guys can move with me if you want.

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It's the first time he hasn't been in the playoffs, so he's dealing with that. Emotional right after a game. I am going to make a guess that someone's going to sit down, Tyree Kill, and be like, you see all these zeros that they gave you? You should stay with the Dolphins. He's like, all right, fine, I'm back in.

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Maybe. And that's kind of what Mike McDaniel said afterwards. He's probably very emotional, so I'm not going to talk to him right now. I'll talk to him in a couple days. But that's as definitive an answer as I've heard, where he's like, I'm out.

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That is also what I feel like he does that shit all the time. He tweets cryptically about shit like that sometimes. I don't know. I'm not surprised by Tyreek Hill saying that. I need to go coach. Yeah, I need to go coach.

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I think he might have meant, like, coach, get me out of here.

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Yeah, so we'll see how that goes, but the Dolphins are back, and then Stephen Ross declared that everyone is safe. Everyone's safe. Stability is important. Stability is important. I mean, they did have... They had a decent second half of the season. I would say if you're the Dolphins, you... It's probably worth taking one more shot at this iteration.

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I would also say that you probably want to invest very heavily in a backup quarterback.

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Yeah, so their plan going into the season was like the Raiders plan going in with their starting quarterback, which is like, you're really going to do that? We're going to do Skylar Thompson again. We're going to do Snoop Huntley. That's going to be your solution. Get a good backup. Just like hope that Tua stays healthy. Yeah, they should run it back, I think. Mike McDaniel's a very good coach.

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Yeah. And they got better in the second half of the season. But it does continue what happened after that whomping of the Broncos, where the Broncos just kept improving and the Dolphins just kept getting worse.

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Yeah. They kept on getting worse. I'm happy the Broncos are in the playoffs and not the Dolphins. I said this. I know Dolphins fans were upset. But I just didn't really want to see Tyler Huntley have to go to Buffalo and play a playoff game. And they'll say, oh, well, we only lost by three to Skyler Thompson. That's fine. I still would prefer Bo Nix.

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Yeah, it's probably better for you that you don't have to go through that.

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Yeah. Just move on. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Last two games in the AFC, Texans 23, Titans 14.

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Wait, there was one other thing from Aaron Rodgers, the post-game presser. They read him a report at the press conference saying that people close to you have said that you're likely to retire after this season. And his answer was, people said they were close to me, which is a great turnaround on him. Like, nobody's close to me. Yeah. I like that. He's so mysterious. I do like that.

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Yeah, but I don't think there... Yeah, I wouldn't guess there's more than like... No, there's probably no one close to him. Yeah, probably no one super close. Well, I watched some of his Netflix. I kind of want to do an ayahuasca. Devontae Adams, maybe, but not really. They did walk off the field again together. That was kind of nice because they did that last time with the Packers. Who knows?

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I think he's got one or two more years left. It would be hilarious if he found a way to get to the Vikings. I think that's pretty crowded, but it would be very funny. Or the Steelers. Steelers. Titans would be a bummer. I could see it, though. I don't think so. I think he's got to go to a team with a really good defense and just be a game manager. Vikings. Meme's going to say that's the Jets.

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Where are you getting a young Vaughn Miller? We have Jermaine Johnson coming back. Vaughn Miller was out of this world. You could draft someone. He was defense player of the year. You have a defense player of the year?

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Okay. All right. Texans 23, Titans 14. The Titans finished 2-15 against the spread. That is a... That's about as shocking of a stat as you can have.

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Yeah, 2-15. 2-15 against the spread. The Titans also got the number one pick, which that was kind of out of nowhere. That wasn't a team that was going into the season you would have said they would be the number one pick. And now they have it, and they're probably going to pick a quarterback because they did both today, Will Levis and Mason Rudolph, and it didn't work out.

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And the Texans did a little warm-up. They had C.J. Stroud in for one drive, six for six, 50 yards. Joe Mixon carried the ball like five times, 30 yards. Touchdown, boom, they're ready to go. Playoffs.

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He had that, what was it, 80-yard run? Yeah, would he end up with like 170-something yards?

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I've always liked Damian Pierce, but I understand that he hasn't been the player that a lot of people expect him to be, but I still think he's a nice running back when Mixon's not getting it done. Yeah. I would like to see them use Pierce a little bit more often. But, yeah, this game was not really anything, nothing really noteworthy. Davis Mills landed on his neck. Yeah.

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The Titans wore the Oilers jerseys. Those are always awesome, but they shouldn't get to wear them.

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They shouldn't get to wear them. And they got to know at this point, karma is not on your side when you wear those in Houston. No.

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I think Schefter said Brian Callahan is safe, which I'm happy he is. I don't think he should be a one and done. But yeah, this was just a bad team and a very like season to forget for the Tennessee Titans. They feel like a little bit of a lost franchise. Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah. Well, they have to figure out quarterback. Yeah. But they're in a position where they can do that.

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Yeah. Okay, last in the AFC, Colts 26, Jaguars 23. I'm going to say it. I think Doug Peterson never lost the locker room. They actually fought pretty hard in this game. He's going to get fired. It would be funny if they just forgot to fire him because he should have... We all thought he was going to get fired, what, two months ago? Yeah, after their bye week. But...

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I don't think he lost the locker room. I mean, they played an OT game in week 18 where the season's been over for months and months and months. He might not have lost the locker room.

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I bet there was some radical transparency going on in that locker room. I bet you Doug Peterson after the bye was like, guys, just so you know, I'm fired. Yeah. Okay, I'm not coming back. Just keep trying. But keep trying and remember that you might get signed to a better team if you play well on this team. Yeah. Also, Brian Thomas Jr., you're awesome.

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Keep doing you. Broke the rookie record 11 games at 75-plus yards. He's awesome. Mac Jones took a hilarious sack, third and six in overtime. He took a 16-yard sack where he just was spinning backwards. That was very funny. Also, this might have been it for Joe Flacco. Yeah, this could be. And he went out with a win if he did. I think he said he wants to play next year. Good.

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That's not a bad idea. Yeah. So did you see the fan of the game that they had today? Yeah, Seth. This is our Colts guy.

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They brought him out before the game. I think they played his fight song on the Jumbotron before the game. Yeah. Great job by Mr. Ursae. But then Mr. Ursae ruined all that goodwill because after the game put out a statement saying that everybody's safe.

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Yeah. Everyone's safe. Chris Ballard is getting his job, keeping his job. I thought Shane Sykin would be safe. The Chris Ballard thing is insane.

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He's Rasputin. Yeah. He's the only guy that filters stuff out that goes to and from Jim, so he knows exactly what to tell Jim Irsay to make him feel good about everything. He knows the right buttons to press, and then he's got a very safe job because if you can make Jim Irsay love you, or at least think that he can't go on without you, then you're just not going to go anywhere.

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Yeah, so I would be very frustrated if I was a Colts fan. I feel bad for Colts fans. Chris Ballard is, I don't know, it just feels like a mess, and you're just going to keep going with the mess because they just are good enough to win seven or eight games, and you can look at it sideways and be like, oh, not too far. Anthony Richardson is not the answer. I've been saying that for a very long time.

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If Flacco had played every game this season, do you think that they would have had a couple more wins?

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No, probably not. I mean, he went 2-4. Yeah. So I don't know if you can say Flacco was the answer.

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He wasn't the answer, but he might have been an improvement over Anthony Richardson. But he wasn't record-wise. Then we could be talking yoffs.

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Yeah. But there were some games. You remember Anthony Richardson lost some very winnable games. For sure. For sure.

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But Joe Flacco also had a couple game-winning drafts. Lost. Yeah, he did. He had a couple really nice ones. Who knows? Maybe he'll figure it out. I've never been the biggest fan. I am rooting for him to figure it out a little bit because it does feel like the whole world's coming at him, and that sucks. Seems like a nice guy. Seems like a nice guy, and the stories are not great.

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And I also want to give a little credit to the Colts. I don't remember the last time I've seen exactly this, but if you look at the box score, Jonathan Taylor was the only one to have a carry for the Colts, and he had 34 of them. I love that. Yeah, that is cool. 34 for 177. Not a single carry by anyone else. I love that.

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It wasn't. It was a penalty problem. Yeah, and I think it might have even been a sack because he didn't get there. Okay. But, yeah, it was just a cool stat to look at that Jonathan Taylor. That's a real bell cow. Look at that. Look at that. You don't see that very often. That's clean. Yeah, that's as clean as it gets. That's a clean-ass box score. Joe Flacco threw all the passes.

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Jonathan Taylor ran all the balls. Man, the Colts are a bummer. And the Jags are a bummer, too. But the Jags are going to get Ben Johnson. I've resigned myself to that. I think that's exactly what's going to happen.

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What do you mean? They're going to get Trevor Lawrence back, and they're going to get Ben Johnson. So good for them. Happy for the Jags. Okay, should we do NFC? Before we do that, you got a couple ads, and we'll do some NFC talk.

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Okay, NFC. We have the Lions at number one seed, the Eagles 2, Bucks 3, Rams 4, Vikings 5, Commanders 6, Packers 7. And we'll start with the Sunday Night Football game. Lions 31, Vikings 9. That was an absolute ass-kicking by the Lions. Both defensively and then in the second half offensively, Jameer Gibbs especially, four touchdowns. He is so goddamn good. And the Lions win the NFC North.

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They, you know, I don't want to say deserved, but the Lions were... After watching that game, they deserved it because they throttled the Vikings. The Vikings' offense looked abysmal tonight.

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Yeah, the Vikings tried to do the Dan Campbell thing, and they thought, like a lot of us, you have to score touchdowns to win this game. So they, instead of kicking field goals, I think turned the ball over on downs twice inside the five-yard line. It seemed like Kevin O'Connell was thinking to himself, in order to beat Dan, I have to become Dan.

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Some spread. In Mile High, where Carson of Sam Wentz looked like he was getting play calls from his dog as Bo Thugs and Harmony Nicks pulled out his thuggish, ruggish bone in the Chiefs' face as the Bengals prayed. And they prayed, and they prayed, and they prayed. Every day, every day, every day. But we'll see them at the crossroads after being bounced from the playoffs.

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And Sam Darnold was bad tonight. He was really bad. And he's usually very good against the Blitz, but he was not tonight.

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Yeah. Overthrowing. Just didn't see it. It looked like he could not see it. And Alex Anzalone coming back felt like it was a big boost for the Lions defense. Did you see his arm?

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Yeah. Anzalone's arm with all the stitches on it? Crazy. It's absolutely insane. It looks like he turned his forearm into a football.

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It's crazy. What do you say? Everybody wants to be a dog until you have to do dog shit?

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He did some dog shit tonight. Yeah. That's a hard quote. That is a very hard quote. I'd like to say that at some point in my life.

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Yeah. But the Lions now have home field advantage, and the Vikings have to go on the road to the Rams. I am officially back to worried about my pinky because the Vikings were not inspiring tonight. Now, you could make the argument, and I thought about it after. You know when you're watching a game, you're like, man, I feel stupid for this.

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The way the Vikings celebrated after winning the Packers game, it did feel like they maybe got a little ahead of themselves like we did it. And this game, I mean, it wasn't... I know it was close in the first half, but it wasn't close in the fact that the Vikings, they just couldn't make a big play when they needed to at any point. Yeah, the run game was okay.

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The Cam Akers had that big run, and then what happens? Like, they can't score. It's just, it was time and time again, they weren't able to make a big play. What would they have... Two times they got turnover on downs within the Lions' five-yard line. They just couldn't make a big play.

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Yeah, they tried to beat them in the first half by saying, we're going to have to get six every time we're down here. And then the Lions will break off big plays against you. It's just a matter of when. They tried to do the thing in the first half where they're like, okay, Gibbs, we're going to spell him for a little bit with, what was it, Patrick? Patrick.

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Yeah. Reynolds. And then they thought to themselves, why are we doing this? We don't have to have like a two running back system. Let's just feed Gibbs.

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Yeah, no Gibbs was, uh, he had 139 yards rushing 31 yards receiving four touchdowns. He did whatever he wanted whenever he wanted to do it. And it's a lot of credit to Aaron Glenn, future coach for memes. I felt like he had a perfect defensive scheme for Sam Donald. And he just, he was never comfortable. Yeah. And it never felt like the Vikings could get any type of momentum.

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Like, I don't remember. We watched that whole game. Do you remember more than... I mean, they had that Cam Akers run all the way down. They had the Jared Goff interception at like the 50-yard line.

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Yeah, but I don't remember any drive where it felt like the Vikings went down the field and it was like play after play. They were hitting it and found a rhythm.

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They had no rhythm. Their rhythm was like occasional passes to Naylor.

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And besides that, they weren't really doing a whole lot.

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Now that the Lions have home field advantage, Max, were you kind of hoping for the Vikings to be the one with the home field advantage? Okay, so how does this change your perspective?

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But their defense was always there. That was the best defensive performance the Lions have had in a long time. Aaron Donald had three...

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But it was part of the pressure. But Sam Darnold sucked. I'm giving credit to the Lions in the fact that they have had some really bad defensive performances in the last month, and they've been very injured. This was a very good defensive performance by the Lions. Would you not agree? They had him just completely flustered. What did he end up, 18 for 41?

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Marvin Jesper Mims saved Broncos from a die job as he played great Playing the end zone twice on the way to a dominating win. The Broncos 38. The Chiefs 0 points. Goose egg. 0 points.

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Do you think Sam Darnold cost himself some money tonight? He might have, but at the same time, it's like one game. Well, it's basically. It's an important game. I don't think he cost himself money tonight, but it could be if he has a bad game next Monday. Because this was a playoff game. It made you think a little bit. Yeah, it made you think, oh, shit, that wasn't good.

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Yeah, I don't think that we can look at this and be like, Sam Darnold is back into a pumpkin. No, but if Monday night, let's just say Vikings fans probably aren't feeling super easy right now. No, I mean, they lost to the Rams. I know. I'm saying they don't feel easy right now. They went to sleep not feeling easy. And I'm telling you, Vikings kicker. His face, negative confidence.

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I know he kicked at Alabama, but it's just negative confidence. He did kick a couple in the first half. He kicked a couple, and then at the end of the half, he kicked it out of bounds with 20 seconds left, and the Lions were able to get three points out of it.

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And then he missed a 52-yarder later on in the game. And missed it badly, too. Badly. And then you could tell he was thinking about it. Right. And you could also tell he was like, damn, this is late for a school night. Yeah. I need to get home.

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He is faceballed. You've got to have a kicker that has at least the ability to grow a beard. Yeah. So, yeah, it looked like Aaron Glenn had the answers written down before the game even started. Right. Like it was never even an option that was going to be close.

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That shot of him sitting on the sideline. Yeah, he sat down. He was just hanging out.

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Like, this is so easy. He's like, we got this. I got Sam Darnold in my back pocket.

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Because I feel like even though Sam is good typically against the Blitz, not all Blitzes are created equal.

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Yeah. So what is it saying for Terry and Arnold's possible fibula? Possible fibula, external rotation of ankle, worry for high ankle sprain, but officially a foot. Well, he does have a foot. That is officially a foot. But they also have the bi now. And their second round matchup, how would you feel about going to the Lions? Anybody, anytime, anywhere. I like that. That's smart. That's smart.

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And it could be the Vikings going back to the Lions. That is true. Very true. I mean, if everyone holds serve except for the Vikings or the Rams...

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Oh, wow. A little NFC North pride. That's disrespectful. That's good for you, Max. That means the Eagles won.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Dan Campbell said you were going to win. Dan Campbell's a winner. What a season for the Lions, 15-2. Do you think that he was going to go for that? No, I don't. I actually don't. Dan Campbell's crazy. So what Max is asking is there was a moment in the game with about six minutes left, and the Lions were up 15 points, and it was fourth and two from the six-yard line-ish, the Vikings six-yard line.

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The Lions got to the line of scrimmage like they were going for it, got the Vikings to go offsides. I actually think he was going to kick the field goal there.

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I didn't say I know it. No, PFT said it. I know it. No, you don't. I know they were not going to go for it. They changed their entire cadence. Did you hear the broadcast?

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No, because it would have been to make it an 18-point lead, Max.

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Standing on the corner, Jameis Winston, Cuyahoga, such a fine sight to see. It's DTR up against Lamar, no more Browns football mercilessly. That's a wrap-y, it's Bailey's app-y. This Cleveland team has been really crappy.

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But Dan Campbell also took over a dumpster fire of a team. Nick Sirianni took over a team that had won a Super Bowl two years before.

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I mean, Dan Campbell went 3-13 his first year on a terrible team that has rebuilt everything. Dan Campbell's a better winner in the last two years.

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All right. Win a Super Bowl, and then you're a winner. So there's barely any winners.

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Okay. Mike Tomlin, winner. Mike McCarthy. Mike Tomlin. Is there an expiration on that? No, winner. Okay, because it does feel like there could be an expiration on, like, Kevin Oli, winner.

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Why do you remember how this debate started? Max is getting overly emotional because he's afraid of the Lions. Okay.

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Dan Campbell does it consistently, and he has, like, So does Nick Sirianni. You know that Nick Sirianni chooses when and when not to do it. He does stuff sometimes where he kind of loses his mind.

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But it's always consistent. I've made this argument a million times. Dan Campbell is crazy, but he's consistently crazy. Then you think that he should have gone for it today. No. If you're saying that, that's what you're saying.

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Max, why are you so upset that we're lavishing praise on Dan Campbell for getting one seed for the Detroit Lions?

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Everyone's an enemy right now. It's playoffs. Correct. Everyone's an enemy. Okay. Yeah. Everyone's an enemy. It's playoffs. Except, actually, there's only one team that's not an enemy for you. The Commanders.

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No, no, no. I'm saying that at least for a few weeks, you don't have to... Like, the Commanders and you guys can't play each other for at least two weeks. No, everyone's an enemy.

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Fuck it. I'm not going to give you the blueprint on how to beat the Packers. Fair. You shouldn't have done that. I could have told you all the secrets because that's all I do is beat the Packers. All right. That was good. Talk about the Lions.

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Yeah, so the Lions. We said a lot of nice things about the Lions until Max had to just poop all over you. He's in playoff mode. I love it. Let the fucking Detroit Lions fans enjoy a one seed, Max. They're 15-2.

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I do not think he was going to go for it. I do not think he was going to go for it.

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Yeah, you're saying like if it hadn't worked, which would – Max, you have to be consistent, right? We've talked about this. If you're going to criticize him, you have to compliment him for going with it and having a plan where it worked.

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Vikings offense is good Lions defense play like that they are that was the perfect if you ask the Lions fan before the game that was the perfect way for that night to end win the NFC North and do it with your defense looking good you didn't want to win a game another game where it was 45-42 and you're like going into the playoffs being like look at what happened against the Bills look at what happened with the Niners game with like a bunch of backups and they were just going up and down the field that was that felt good and they didn't do it with huge chunk plays either

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Yeah. They did just by grinding them down. Yeah, yeah. So credit to the Lions. One seed. Deserved. 15 wins. Sucks for the Vikings winning 14 games and having to go on the road. But that's just how good the NFC North was this year.

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Yeah, so they're going to go to Los Angeles on Monday night. I'm worried. I'm a little bit worried, too. This is a Sam Darnold face mask game. We can talk about the Rams when we talk about the Rams, but that's another thing.

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Yeah, I'm worried. I'm just worried. Okay, so the other thing we had to decide besides seeding in the NFC today was the Bucs. Bucs 27, Saints 19. Bucs win the NFC South. Bucs get the three seed. Going to take on your commanders, PFT. This was a weird game because...

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The Bucs, for the first two and a half quarters, looked like they thought they could just show up and win this game without even trying. They looked like garbage to start the game.

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And then Baker Mayfield had back-to-back drives that ended the game, essentially, where they went 12 plays, 82 yards, 12 plays, 94 yards, touchdown, touchdown. They let... I guess the Bucs were correct in the strategy of like, hey, Spencer Rattler can't play four quarters where he's good, and that was correct.

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But the Bucs looked slow, finished strong, and then we had Mike Evans get his 1,000th yard, which now makes him tied for Jerry Rice 11 seasons, 1,000 yards. Pretty awesome accomplishment. He's a Hall of Fame wide receiver. Very, very cool.

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The last play of the game, though, where they hit Mike Evans on that – You like that? I do. I didn't like it.

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Yeah, okay. I get that. I get that part of it. But also, what I don't like is it looked like the guy on the Saints that was matched up against him was like, yeah, just run your five-yard out. I'm going to turn around and go downfield like you're running a deep route, and then we'll all turn around and tackle you.

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If this was Mike Evans... Two things. One, if this is Mike Evans' second year in the league, third year in the league, that's bullshit. He's been in the league for over a decade. He's a veteran, seems like an awesome dude. I'm okay with it for five yards. And the second thing, the more important thing, I'm okay with it because he missed, what, four or five games for injury? Yeah.

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If he had played all 17 games and they needed that shit to get him 1,000 yards, I'd be like, oh, come on, dude. But how many games did he end up missing or not play? Because he would have gotten 1,000 yards if he didn't get injured. I know injuries are part of the game, but that does change it a little bit in my head. And he was only, what, like five yards away from it? He was five yards away.

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It wasn't like he needed 100 yards. Maybe I'm old school, Big Cat. I don't like the idea of a guy letting you have yards. You got to fight for every yard of this league.

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So he played 13 games because he got injured in one of them, I believe. So, yeah, he missed four games. He would have had it easily if he hadn't gotten injured. I'm okay with it. I don't know. It's $3 million, dude.

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Yeah, I'm happy for him to make the money. I'm curious to know what Jerry Rice's thoughts are.

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I don't know. Mark Gastineau? We have to ask Jerry Rice. He wants those yards back? Yeah. Yeah, I had no problem with it. I mean, the only argument I would consider is, like, it technically is a very dumb thing because what if tragedy happens and you throw a pick and your playoffs are on the line?

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Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, it could have cost them the game.

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I would have liked it a lot more if the Saints had at least pretended to play defense on it.

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But that's not the same as being up 15 and kicking a field goal to make it 18 points. Good segment. Oh, man.

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There's nothing I can do about it, and I wouldn't know if you cut it or didn't, so that sucks. Jalen McMillan is awesome. Yeah, he's very good. He's really good. And I still love Bucky. Yeah, Bucky's awesome. You've got to get in war mode. Don't compliment them too much. I can compliment them. I'll compliment them. You don't. Great player. Don't. Just a rookie, though. They brought the duck back.

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Did you see that pregame? I did see that. The duck was there. You've got to...

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You might have to go down and kill that duck. I think we got to sign Carson Wentz to be the backup. Go down there and execute that fucking duck.

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Yes. What the hell do the Saints do? Who's going to take the Saints head coaching job? I don't know. I don't know who's going to get the Saints job. It could be a real wild card of a hire. I feel like every open job has had someone name attached except for the Saints. Mm-hmm.

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Are you just going to get whoever's left? I'm thinking it's going to be somebody very boring. Drew Brees. Give it a shot. Yeah, why not? He's boring. What about Coach O? Coach O would be sick.

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I mean, okay, here's what I'll say about the Buccaneers. Congrats to them. Was this five straight playoff appearances? Bit of an NFC South merchant, those Buccaneers. If you ask Steve and Che, they're one of the most dominant teams of the first half of this decade. The NFC South has been so fucking bad outside of the Tom Brady years. Great for the Bucs. Good job.

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You won a Super Bowl with Tom Brady at the end of his career. That's awesome for you. The NFC South has been so bad year in, year out.

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What about them? Cam Newton? No, he's talking about the last five years. Yeah, last five years. A bit of an NFC South merchant, if we're being honest. Yeah, even Tom Brady's last year. What, did they finish 9-8? And then they did beat us in the playoffs. No, no.

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Yeah, 2020. But I do like Baker. I'm going to have to turn on Baker this week. He's such a dog.

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He ends the season with 4,499 yards, 44 total touchdowns, 71.4% completion percentage. He's awesome. He did the thing today where he ran over a guy and then stepped over him and basically started an entire fight between both teams while walking away.

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Yeah, he was the Joker meme with the hospital blowing up.

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Yeah, Baker scares me a little bit, I'll be honest. Jalen McMillan also should probably put his guns away for the playoffs.

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Yeah, so that was an interesting moment because he did the first down sign. Yeah. But they thought he had, like, trigger fingers or at least a handgun as one of his hands. But he actually had his fingers taped together from an injury. Yes. Then he goes up to the ref and shows him, it's not a gun. My fingers were just taped together.

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Is that an excuse? No, because they kept the penalty. Yeah, it's not an excuse.

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Also, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers would never allow guns in their stadium.

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Absolutely not. All right, so are you worried? Are you ready? You wanted the Bucs.

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You said you wanted the Bucs. I wanted anybody. I really wanted the Eagles. I'm bummed out that we're not going to get the Eagles. I wanted that. The Rams concern me because Sean McVay concerns me.

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The Bucs also... I mean, we saw it in that game against the Cowboys on Sunday Night Football. I feel like they don't rush the passer great, so that should give Jaden a lot of time.

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They're good at stopping the run, though. They are good at stopping the run. Todd Bull is kind of a bird brain when it comes to making decisions about things.

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That was one play that sticks in my mind from this game today was Clyde Edwards-Alaire got a little bit of daylight, and he ran into Vitave, and Vitave didn't even tackle him. He just stood with his belly out. Yeah. And he literally ran into him and fell backwards. Yeah, Vitave does concern me a lot. Yeah. He's a monster. Another guy who doesn't wear gloves. Yeah. Scary. So, I mean...

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You guys could win this game. It's a three-point spread. Yeah, three-point spread. Also, Mike Evans, great player. Very happy that he got 1,000 yards. That was very nice to see. I was cheering super hard for that. Marshawn Lattimore kind of has a history of locking him down and getting him kicked out of games.

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They like to fight. They like to fight a lot. I think the stats are that, historically, Marshawn Lattimore limits him to, like, three catches per game and something like 47 yards per game. Hmm. So that's good if Lattimore plays.

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Bring Carson Wentz with his shotgun. Well, he didn't play today. Okay.

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But, I mean, you guys sat Jaden half the game. He's a Bucs specialist. Yeah. He'll be back. Okay. Next up.

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in the nfc south so the bucks looked like they were going to maybe blow this but it turns out the falcons were going to blow it on their own anyway panthers 44 falcons 38 bryce young was incredible five touch five total touchdowns 250 yards did you see he did the steph curry uh look away yeah so he threw a touchdown pass and before the pass was even caught he turned around and started celebrating

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I like that we've reached a point in the Bryce Young reclamation where he's like stunting on people now. Like what a turnaround that's been literally in this game.

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Yeah, he had – so since he got benched, when he came back, he's had 20 total touchdowns, six interceptions, 2,100 yards, and 61% completion percentage. And Dave Canales said after the game, we've got our guy. And I'm happy for Bryce Young. I'm happy for the Panthers. That – This season was going in such a bad direction. And Dave Canales, Coach of the Year, should probably get some credit.

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Yeah, so is O'Connell still your Coach of the Year? Not after tonight. I think it's Dave Canales.

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What about Dan Campbell? Might be Jeff Olbrich. Mine might be Dan Campbell. Mine might be Jeff Olbrich. I just love how consistent he is.

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Yeah. He's a winner. Dan Campbell's a winner. Winner. But yeah, the... Panthers, arrows pointing up. And the Falcons, I don't fucking know where they're arrows pointing because they're just the Falcons. Yeah, but I feel like Penix is the guy. You ready to say it already? I think he's the guy. Already?

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We're going to break it up in conferences to break down the playoff picture and the games we watched on Sunday. We're going to start with the AFC. We are set with our AFC draft. Uh, playoff schedule, by the way, if at any point during this show, cause we're, we're, we're taping it in part so we can watch the entirety of Sunday night football.

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Yeah, I don't know. I need to see more. They're just the Falcons.

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How do you know? You need to win this game. They lose the two games in ridiculous fashion the last two weeks. They fought all the way back into the division. They're just the Falcons. They are the Falcons. They're just the most frustrating organization to look at from afar.

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Yeah, but I think overall this season it turned around a little bit. You got more exciting. You got a better glimpse of the future. You saw that Kirk Cousins is not the guy, and you can move forward.

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But that's even the Falcons, the fact that they did – Kirk Cousins signing and Michael Penix drafting, we said at the time, made no sense. It looks even dumber now because you could – maybe if Kirk Cousins plays two years and brings Michael Penix along and you get to the playoffs with Kirk Cousins, you can tell yourself, hey, that was actually good in the long run.

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None of that happened, and you just wasted all that money and took Michael Penix, who I'm not ready to say he's the guy – They're just the most frustrating organization.

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So do you think that it's going to be any sort of possibility that Kirk Cousins plays next year for the Falcons? No. I mean, why would you? If you're Kirk Cousins or if you're the Falcons? If you're the Falcons. The only explanation would be that the Achilles is like a two-year recovery.

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But why would you? He probably wants to start. There's no reason to start him. You drafted Michael Penix. You already went to him. He is your guy now.

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Because weird stuff happens. I mean, the Falcons are a weird organization.

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They are very much a weird organization, but that would be insane if they were like, hey, Michael Penix, you're not our starter next year. Open competition.

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No, I think they'll probably try to unload him somewhere, trade him. I don't know where. Maybe he's the Raiders.

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I guess the reason why I still kind of like the Falcons is because they've got good, very good players on offense.

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Drake London, awesome. Michael Pinnock's, some are saying he looks like the guy. Kyle Pitts, whatever. Yeah, he's there. Yeah.

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Good offensive line. Yeah, but... No, I just the Falcons arrows pointed. I don't know because of the Falcons is what I'm trying to say. Yeah. Okay. Commanders 23 Cowboys 19 Marcus Mariota played the second half of this game won this game with no time left.

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Basically that had to feel good. Yeah, it was great. Terry McLaurin set the Commander's record, the franchise record for most touchdowns in a year with that last touchdown catch. I'm just very happy for Terry. And this season has just been like 12 wins is unreal.

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Never in a million years did I think 12 wins. And I was looking at the roster and how far this team has turned around in a very, very short amount of time. Which is why any time a coach tells you four years for a rebuild, they're full of shit. Don't listen to that coach. We have 13 total pro bowlers this year. So that obviously includes the selections and then the alternates after that.

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Out of those 13, how many of those guys do you think were brought in under the Ron Rivera era?

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one zero oh none of them 10 of them are brand new this year first year with the team wait who brought in terry uh terry i believe that was jay gruden okay i think he drafted terry okay so yeah uh the turnaround has been just unreal and i feel like this has been a dream season um i hope that jayden's okay they said that he had leg soreness after the game

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If they release a schedule, please, uh, do breaking news because I know that I would have said, I would say the majority of America, the minute the playoffs are set, spends the next like hour just Googling and typing into what's the app called?

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Oh, I thought he was just sitting him because this is kind of crazy. He was getting hit a decent amount. He didn't look super sharp.

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Yeah, that's what concerns me is the first half, our offensive line wasn't great. The center or backup center wasn't really able to handle Michael Parsons when they lined him up right over top of him. Jaden got killed a little bit. His leg was sore. He said he would have played if it meant something.

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But it kind of did mean something, and then he didn't play. And then Marcus looked pretty good.

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I'm so bummed. I wanted the Eagles, but it's anyone, anytime, anywhere. That's what I say.

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I was rooting for my friend Big Cat. Yeah, he was being a good friend. I was being a supportive friend. You should try it sometime.

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We all won a game today. That was pretty insane. I don't think that's ever happened. Yeah. That's awesome.

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I mean, you're getting five teams. Next year, we got to do that every single week. We got to do the parlay. Moneyline parlay on them.

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And, Max, I'll honestly answer your question. I was rooting for the Bears. I was. I was doing it to support Big Cat. Thank you. And also because, theoretically, the Commanders could host the NFC Championship game now in theory.

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And I actually – you missed this part, Max, but PFT whispered to me at one point. He's like, hey, I want the Bears to win this game so that you can share all the secrets with Max on how to beat the Packers.

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Yeah. Sorry. You should try out being a good friend once in a while.

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Oh, now you got to bring the segment back. Nope. Yeah. Max tried to. No, you got to leave that in. I'll leave some of it in. Okay.

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I'm sure we'll have another update about Dan Campbell's coaching errors. No, it wasn't an error. He got it.

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correct and where was the ball this is the whole yeah whatever so is nick sirianni i got a question for you guys about the commanders because i'm blinded by him like i again i feel like this whole thing's been a dream because it's it's crazy from the owner to the head coach to the quarterback all this shit i have a question for you yeah are the commanders a likable team um yes yeah because i think i thought you're gonna ask a different question that hank was gonna have a hard time answering

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It's all happening on X. They just type in playoff schedule over and over and over again until someone. And wasn't there a guy we found last year that his hobby is to predict it? He predicts every schedule.

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I think the Commandos are a likable team. I think they are a likable team.

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It's starting to bother me a little bit. But I think they're a likable team. I like Dan Quinn. Terry McLaurin I like. I like Brian Robinson.

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Because I have no frame of reference as to whether, I guess the only thing I can point to is that we're playing in the Sunday night game, which means that somebody wants to watch us.

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Yeah, I mean, that's Jaden Daniels. Jaden Daniels. Yeah, he's had an incredible season. That's the Sunday night game. I thought you were going to ask a very different question.

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Should I ask it to you or Hank? Ask it to Hank. Okay, Hank. Ask it to him first. Do you think the Washington Commanders are good? No.

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Hank turned to me in the middle of the Cowboys-Commanders game. He goes, they fucking stink.

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Here's the thing about the Commanders, though. We're not that good, but Jaden Daniels finds a way to do things at the end of games. And today was Mariota, but if you look at since the Hail Mary game, we've scored like a million times in the last minute, minute and a half of games. Max, fact check that. Craziest innings. Max, I think it was a million times that we scored. Less than a million.

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I honestly don't think that the Commanders are a great football team. We might not even be very good. But you're in the playoffs. But you know what we are? Is we're winners. Yeah. And we figure out ways to. That's true. We're figuring out ways. Dan Quinn's a winner. We figure out ways. He was a Super Bowl winning at one time head coach. Yes, that's bad.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Yeah. On X, you are the media. And our darling Jake Marsh has released his prediction. So we can just say Jake's predictions right now.

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And something happens at the end of games where time slows down for usually Jaden, in this case Marcus, and it just ends up working out somehow. I don't know how they do it. I don't think that they're a very good team, but they're so fun to watch. Against bad teams.

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Does Kenny Pickett play defense? That's true. Good point. Is the Eagles' defense good? That's a good point.

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Okay, interesting. But they could have, if Jalen Hurts... Go ahead, Max.

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We can. And then we could judge them after. Let's judge them afterwards. Okay.

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I think that one of two things is going to happen against the Bucs. One, we're going to win in the last, like, 45 seconds of the game. Some crazy shit's going to happen. Todd Bowles will probably screw something up in terms of a timeout or, like, a go-forward strategy because he's no Dan Campbell.

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And then we somehow figure out a way to win a game that we were losing by 17 points in the first half. That's option number one. Option number two is we lose by, like, 25 points because we're not good, but we win, and we're fun. Wait, would you win in option one, you said? Yeah, option one is we win. So Commander's Moneyline or Buck's Alternate Spread?

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yeah that would not be a bad bet i might have to do that but i love this team equal amounts i love this team yeah uh mike mccarthy they asked him after the game what he thought about his future did you hear his quote no he said i don't like to talk about myself but i'll just be clear i'm a winner i know how to win he max

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So this is before Sunday Night Football. Yes, we don't know. We don't know yet. He's got 430 on prime on Saturday. The prime game. The Chargers at the Texans. That is like... That's basically like getting a freebie. But he took a shot on this by saying that that's going to be on Prime. Okay.

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I just think that there's a good chance that the Bucs get up on an early lead against us, and then if a couple things don't break our way, then it's going to be pretty ugly in the second half. But there's an equally good chance where we're losing by 17 and we end up winning by 2.

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There was a great moment in this game. It reminded me a lot of the Bears-Hill Mary where your cornerback started celebrating and waving goodbye to the crowd. Malik Hooker on fourth down put his hand up to be like, we got this stop against Marcus Mariota as Marcus Mariota still had the ball and was running like 30 yards downfield. That was a great screenshot to look at.

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We also had a cheerleader get absolutely domed by a kickoff. That should count as a point. She got smoked. Yeah, that should count as a point.

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I didn't say women. I said cheerleader. True, there are men. I never said the gender of the cheerleader. Dallas Cowboys historically have. Could be. Could be. You don't know. You don't know. Cheerleaders come in all shapes and sizes.

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Yeah, that was a crazy, crazy kick. That was Aubrey, right? Yeah.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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and doesn't evan mcpherson or is it the other bangles kicker that evan mcpherson i think has a girl his girlfriend or fiance's on on the cab but that was not her yeah i got hit i don't think so oh but yeah that was that was crazy it was like a bullet yeah yeah and then they zoomed in on her she wore that like a champ she did she did shout out tress way asking if she was okay great guy that is awesome great job tress great job tress um

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No, I think I'm ready for the off. I think that I'm ready for the offs this much like the Broncos season. This whole season was a win no matter what. Yeah, definitely. Obviously, I want to win in the playoffs. But yeah, this is it's been a great year. What map out a road? Okay, here's the road.

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Because I know you've done it in your head. You might as well do it for us.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Okay, so we beat the Bucs. Okay. Then the Packers beat the Eagles, which would break my heart because I want to play against the Eagles at some point.

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That would legit break my heart because I would have... Robbed of getting to cheer for the Eagles demise.

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No, I think that stuff's locked in. I think that's the shit that Jake knows that we don't know.

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But that's part of the road. Part of the road is we somehow take over home field advantage. All right, so that happens.

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Absolutely not. Max, I can be more clear. You need to end the Packers, and then I'll root against you. I am 110% Eagles on Saturday. Or Sunday. You and Hank. It couldn't be more clear. That's bad. If the Packers beat you... If the Packers beat you and I'm not even allowed to make fun of you for losing, that's the worst. You'll make fun of me. No, because you should be like, the Packers just won.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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All right, here's the path. Okay, we beat the Bucs. Then we've got the Packers beating the Eagles. Okay. Then we have the, I'm going to say the Vikings beating the Rams. And then you've got the Vikings. So all the... All upsets. Yeah, five, six, seven. And then you've got the Lions. They would have to play the Packers. The Packers beat the Lions. You beat the Vikings? We beat the Vikings. Okay.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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And then we beat the Packers in the NFC Championship game at home. Cinderella. Cinderella story. Who do you play in the Super Bowl? Then the Super Bowl, we play against the Steelers. Houston, Texas. We played Texans in the Super Bowl. They changed the kickoff time to 3.30. Oh, nice. And then, yeah, we take out the Texans. That's huge. No, there's probably no chance. No, that's a path.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Is it going to be Al Michaels? So we're subjecting Al Michaels to the Houston Texans game?

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Would it be crazy to say that the Packers beat the Eagles? No. Not crazy. Would it be crazy to say that the Vikings beat the Rams? No. No, not crazy. Would it be crazy to say that the Packers beat the Lions?

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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So there's a path. However remote it might be, there's a path. It's the playoffs. Memes is frustrated about something. God knows what.

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Probably. I took a guess this morning when I was doing my fantasy corner, and all the replies were like, dude, technically this game has to be this because the broadcast is like, all right, I'm out. I'm out. I don't care enough.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Then you go up to Detroit. Rank your favorite memes voices. Mine is number one, Hank Hill.

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No, that was good. That was great. And then two, we got Pittsburgh. We got Gruden memes. Yeah. Yeah, no, listen. Get your confidence up. It's a possibility. I am confident that we can beat the Bucs. There's definitely a way that we beat the Bucs. But there's a lot of good teams in the NFC.

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But they all have flaws. They all have flaws. That's the biggest thing. They all have flaws. Yeah, I know you really wanted the Eagles. I'm sorry for you. Pisses me off. You wanted the Eagles. I knew you did, too. Yeah. All right. Before we wrap up with the last four games, BetterHelp. Part of my take is sponsored by BetterHelp.

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I want to just say, like, I want to be able to predict the times and then the matchups.

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The Rams were actually pretty live in this game. They had a chance to win it at the end, and they had like a fourth and three on the 10-yard line with 30 seconds left. So Jimmy G still got it a little bit.

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So what was Sean McVay thinking going into this week? He just didn't think it was important to have to avoid the Lions or the Vikings at all?

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Yeah. No, he was just like, I want to rest my guys. It's just kind of a weird move, though, isn't it? I think he's been there, done that. Play whoever you play.

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Yeah, because, I mean, ultimately, who would you rather play in the playoffs, the Commanders or maybe the Lions?

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Jake is reminding the teacher to assign homework to everybody else. Well...

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I think he wanted to get healthy because he's got an old quarterback. So this is what concerns me about that move is that I feel like Sean McVay knows something.

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Yeah, no, I'm nervous about the Rams now, especially watching the Vikings play against the Lions. I'm back to nervous about my pinky.

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Yeah, they weren't good today, and some of that has to do with Jimmy G, a quarterback. But they almost won the game. They almost won the game. Yeah. In the Geno incentives game, which he hit all three of them, by the way.

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He got $6 million in incentives today. Good for Geno. But the fact that Sean McVay did not care about winning this game makes me think that the Rams are going to be very dangerous.

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Because if you were desperate, if you had doubts in your team, you would be like, we need every edge we can get.

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Let me throw out a question here. Did Jake do all the travel schedules? Because is Kirk Herbstreet calling? Oh, I guess that's in Texas. Fucking he did it again. He's calling Friday night, Ohio State, Texas. In Dallas, he's just going to go right over to Houston for Saturday.

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Let's go out there, win this game, and try to avoid a great team from the north.

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I guess you also don't know how the other games are going to go, although they had already played.

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Yeah, I was saying you didn't know. Going before the game, if the Packers had won and the Commanders had lost, it would have been the Packers. And you're setting a plan going forward probably days before being like, this is what we're going to do. So you're just not concerned at all.

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Yeah, so that's what makes me concerned about the Rams.

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uh and then it's for the seahawks year one under mike mcdonald i it wasn't terrible no i mean they won 10 games it was very frustrating it was extremely frustrating felt like you could have won at least two or three more they had that that that i mean the fact that the seahawks they kind of have a similar setup as the bengals they look back they lost to the giants yeah like how did that happen

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How do you let that happen? Because other than that, they lost to teams that were... They lost to the Lions, understandable. They lost to the 49ers before everyone got injured, understandable. They lost the Bills and the Rams, the Packers and the Vikings. Those are all not terrible losses. So if you look at the Seahawks season, it really just comes down to you don't lose that Giants game.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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You're in the playoffs. You're one in Mike McDonald. And so I don't know. I feel like Arrow pointing slightly up for the Seahawks.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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I think you're happy overall, but you're also very frustrated. Yes. Okay, so Rams... Because I think they would... When they moved on from Pete Carroll, they, at the very least, wanted a coach that would attempt to run the ball. Yeah. Which they did a little bit today. But Mike McDonald, he failed that part of the test year one.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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How did the... The Rams – I mean, listen, Sean McVay, Kevin O'Connell, they know each other. Those guys know each other. It's funny, too, because that was kind of the launching off point for the Rams' season. Remember, that was early on in the season. They were 2-4, and it's like if they don't win this game, they're pretty much dead, which turned out to be true. They needed to win that game.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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and they won that game. It was a Thursday night game, and Stafford carved up the Vikings defense. I think that was the game that everyone came back right before. It was like we didn't know if Puka was going to play or not, and then he played like it was announced right before, and then he carved him up. It's going to be an interesting matchup. Yeah. Interesting matchup. I think I like the Rams.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Yeah, I probably like the Rams too. All right, Cardinals 47, 49ers 24. You got anything on this game? Nope. Josh Dobbs played. He did play. Yep.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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You think Jake doesn't know Kirk Herbstreet's travel schedule? Yeah, that's for sure. He's probably got dog-friendly flights that can take him from city to city.

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Trey McBride didn't catch a touchdown or no? Trey McBride did get a touchdown. All he does is score touchdowns.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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And he also had an awesome play where he carried Fred Warner like a backpack.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Season from hell for the 49ers over. Yes. Six and 11. So what do you do if you're the 49ers? You see how bad Brock Purdy's hurt. And then you go from there. And Christian McCaffrey?

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Cut. You cut your wide back? I don't know if cut is – I don't know what his contract is. I'd say you move on from Debo.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Yes. Yeah. That one you move on. You get Ayuk back next year. Ayuk comes back. Debo's a little older. Also felt like there was times where Kyle Shanahan tried to spam Debo. So maybe you just got to – it might be better for Kyle Shanahan to not have Debo in his life.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Okay, 8 p.m. Saturday, Commanders at Bucks. Okay. Do you want that? I don't think that's.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Because he's always thinking – I want more Debo. What if I use Debo for this play?

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Like this run, this sweep, what if I de-bowed it? You'll get Trent Williams back. Yeah. That'll be good. Yeah. Fred Warner's still good.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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Yeah, I think the 49ers will be a buy-on team next year. Yeah. They had a bad year. They had a season from hell. They get to rest up. They don't have to play deep into January. Kittle's going to be fresh. Kittle's going to be fresh. They'll get a higher draft pick. They'll be fine. John Lynch is a very good GM. Kyle Shannon is a very good coach.

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NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

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I don't like that the 49ers were such a bummer to watch because say what you want about them in the past, they've always been fun.

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But they definitely have to – I think their roster is like on the older side that they have to make some hard decisions and kind of reset. But it can be done very quickly. Look at the Bills. And what do the Cardinals do? Hope next year's different. Okay. I don't really know.

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I'm not the biggest Kyler guy. I think they should keep him around. I think that you stay rolling with Kyler for a little bit because at least they have, like, I know what the Cardinals are in my head. And it's Kyler Murray scampering around, having two games where he looks awesome, a couple games where he looks just awful. And then that's all the mental headspace you have to have on the Cardinals.

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I don't care. Anyone, anytime, anywhere. All right. I love that for you. Yeah. Sunday, 1 p.m., Broncos at the Bills.

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Kyler's not a confetti quarterback. Ooh. Can you close your eyes and see confetti coming down on Kyler?

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Because, like, think about it. Like, there's so much confetti. Then you're like, where did Kyler go? Can't find him.

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Gets lost in it. Yeah. In the esports. It's like a dog going into a leaf pile. I love those videos of the dogs going into the snow. Like, you could actually measure snow by taking Kyler outside and by just tossing him.

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I watched a video where a dog, there was a GoPro attached to the dog and he ran from the house. It looked like an Italian villa or something. He ran from the house all the way down these like windy rocks and jumped into the ocean. Probably the Mediterranean. Yeah, that was a good one. And it was like two and a half minutes long. It's like that dog has the best life of all time.

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That dog was all gas, no brakes. Yeah. And so that's what we do with the Cardinals season. Get a GoPro, move to Italy. Put on Kyler. And just run down to the water every single day. Yeah, pretty good. Good plan. Okay. Last two games. You want to do Eagles-Giants?

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I think that's the second layup on the schedule. I think the first game and that game are almost guaranteed.

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Eagles 20, Giants 13. I guess the only question I'd have about Eagles-Giants is, is Jalen Hurts out of concussion protocol? Nope. Uh-oh. So what does that mean? You're less than seven days away from your first-round playoff game.

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Okay, so that means he's probably going to play? Or it means someone bet a lot of money on the Eagles. Probably the former.

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I do too. Ladder is the most recent one. Yep, probably the ladder. So you think somebody bet a lot of money on the Eagles? Not that he cleared concussion protocol.

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Yeah. I mean, especially the Texans. If you're a Houston Texans fan, for the last 10 years, you can just pencil in what you're going to be doing at 3.30 in the afternoon on that Saturday in January. Okay.

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Yeah. I hope Jalen Hurts clears concussion protocol. Same.

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Same. Well, no, I want to take that back. I hope that he clears it whenever it's good for his body and his brain and his mind to clear it. Not a second earlier.

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Me too. Agreed. I hope Jalen Hurts clears concussion protocol, but not until, like, Friday, because I'd like to see Max's brain just be like, what does this mean?

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I'd like at least two more days of him not clearing concussion protocol. I'd like at least one more report where they say he has not cleared concussion protocol.

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I want you to become an expert in concussion protocol at some point this week because you're so nervous.

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If Jalen Hurts doesn't clear concussion protocol, will you give us permission to concuss you and put you in protocol?

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I think we should just give Max the concussion test before every show. Yeah, that would be a good idea. Baseline. Giants. What even pick do they have now? Fourth? They still might get Shador.

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And I don't know if they're going to bring back Dable. Things seem to be trending towards not. Yeah. And, again, we talk about when they had Ben McAdoo and Mara said that they would not fire Ben McAdoo. Then two weeks later, they fired Ben McAdoo.

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I might, by the way, I think I saw the line open at 7.5. If it's 7 or even 6.5... I might game of the year the Bills. I think the Bills are going to fucking demolish the Broncos. You don't think so, Hank? Hungry dog? I think the Bills are going to fucking demolish the Broncos. Broncos have been showing some fight.

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Did the same thing with Joe Judge. This season, they said they're not going to fire Brian Dable. It's not necessarily a good thing to get a vote of confidence from Mr. Mara.

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So if they do fire Dable, what about this plan? Sark. And then you just wait for Arch. You do one season of tanking. If you look at the schedule that the Giants have to play next year, not easy. They have to play the NFC North.

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Yeah, that's true. But they also have to play the AFC West.

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So a lot of good teams. So that's six playoff teams right there between those two divisions.

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Then you tank a little bit. You should tank for somebody. Agreed. If Arch Manning is not worth tanking for if you're the Giants, then who is?

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I don't know. I'm just asking the question because if Arch Manning was worth tanking for, I would have thought Arch Manning would be playing in the playoffs.

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Well, it's because Sark is keeping him fresh because he's going to become the Giants coach, then tank, and then draft Arch.

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Because I'm also kind of done watching Quinn Ewers. I'm not. I am. I'm done watching Quinn Ewers. I'd rather watch Arch.

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But if you're a Giants fan, that should get your blood going a little bit, right? Like just picturing a Manning jersey.

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Yeah. Yeah. Wait, what does it have right now? It has them taking Travis Hunter. Okay. Abdul Carter to the Jets. Way to go. Kelvin Banks. Offensive tackle. I like that. Ash and Jenny for sure is going to be a Cowboy. That is the most Cowboys pick ever. Oh, my God. He's going to run for like 1,500 yards, and they're going to go to the playoffs, and everything's fixed.

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That is the most Cowboys thing ever. Oh, McMillan is a stud from Arizona. Love that. That would be nice. Just what we need. Yeah. Okay. Last game. Bears 24, Packers 22. What can I say? We beat the Packers. That's what we do. Packers specialists. That's what we do. We beat the Packers. Fake punt. Not fake punt. The fake punt catch was awesome. That was a great play. The Keenan Allen interception.

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Awesome. So funny. That was a very funny play. Almost bears the fuck out of this game with the fumble late. And then the Packers, I don't know what they were doing on defense at the end of the game, but that's just the difference between good organizations and bad organizations. Bears find ways to win these games.

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Yeah. Yeah, he got horse collar tackled. But yeah, Caleb made it through a ball perfectly to DJ Moore. Cairo Santos, revenge. Fun fact for you, the Bears and the Packers in the vaunted NFC North, both 1-5. And the Packers needed a block field goal to win that one game. I can't remember who it was against because the Bears owned the Packers.

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the chicago listen i know we dropped like two spots maybe three spots in the draft order i was saying it before my uh my oldest is uh five and a half he's halfway through kindergarten he has never been alive for the bears to beat the packers so this was kind of nice yeah it's nice to beat the packers i told you you could do this and you were you were being a negative nelly

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Well, I mean, we needed a lot of things to go right, including to completely fake them out with that punt return. We needed Jordan Love to go out. We needed the Packers to play the dumbest defense I've ever seen. But I'm happy for Caleb Williams to end on a high note. Feels good. A lot of things to work on. The organization is not in a good place, but we own the Packers.

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All right, we'll talk about it. They're actually the first game we're going to talk about. 430, the afternoon game. Packers at the Eagles. Packers at the Eagles.

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Trending very far down. That should make the Packers feel awful. Yeah. Even after you beat them, you're like, yeah, we're not in a good spot.

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Here's the thing. I know Packers fans will tell themselves, well, we just screwed you out of a couple picks in the draft. It bothers Packers fans to no end because they love beating the Bears, and they love beating the Bears all the time, and we haven't beaten them since 2018, and we haven't won a road Sunday game in three years. We're the Packers' daddy.

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I'd rather them not win the Super Bowl. I'll say that right now. I do not want the Packers to win the Super Bowl, but good question, Hank. We are the Packers' daddy, though.

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We own them. Could this be a moment where, you know, for the last five years, all you've wanted is to beat the Packers, but at what cost?

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No, I mean, I've just wanted them to be good. Yeah. And they're not good. But we beat the Packers. And it's great that it happened at the last game of the season so I can just be like, hey, we're on a winning streak. I will do a clock somewhere in the summer where it's been 200 and whatever, 50 days.

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Okay. 8 p.m., Steelers-Ravens. Yep. That would be awesome. That sounds about right. That would be awesome. Hopefully the Ravens just wear their clean black uniforms for that game. Yep. That's what America wants. Yep. And then we've got Monday, the loser of the Vikings-Lions game at the Rams. Okay. Monday Night Football.

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You've got to hope that they schedule you for super late in the season. Or not. Let's not even schedule next year. We'll do it the year after. What if you just destroyed the entire franchise?

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Yeah, it bothers the Packers they lost to the Bears. I love it. I fucking love it. So, Caleb's rookie season, his numbers, he leads. The Chicago Bears franchise history in total yards. So he did that in one year. How is that possible? I mean, we have never had a quarterback, Hank. That's how it's possible. Wait, say that stat again.

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I think Jay had like 4,000 in, I don't know, five or something one year. Is he the guy?

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um we're working on it wait so one year all time all time and for one season for one season oh okay i thought you're talking about for one season for all time one season uh yeah he ended with you know 3500 i know if you told me before the season that he had 3500 yards and uh 20 touchdowns and six interceptions i would have been like holy shit we're in the playoffs Didn't go that way.

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Didn't go the way I thought it would. A lot to work on. Caleb's got a lot to work on. The Bears have a lot to work on. I have more confidence in Caleb working on the things than the Bears working on the things, because everything that I've read and heard, the Bears are going to hire Brian Flores. They're probably not even going to interview Ben Johnson.

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Mike Vrabel's going to be the Patriots head coach. Ryan Pohl's going to keep his job, and that's going to be an awkward I don't know what's going to happen where he's got one year, and then The new coach is like, hey, this guy, whatever. Another time, another day, the Bears beat the Packers. We own the Packers. I have some advice for the McCaskey family.

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Don't swear. Okay. To dearest McCaskey family, I hope this missive finds you well. Yeah, by the way, happy birthday to Virginia, 102 years old. Happy birthday to Virginia. Sweet Virginia. Very happy to have you around for hopefully many more years.

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trips around the sun yeah uh this virginia yeah this is to virginia no i couldn't i i reflexively said no when you said hope to have you around for many more i shouldn't have said that we hope happy birthday we we're glad you're not dead i'm glad you're not dead uh no

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Oh, okay. I'm glad you're not dead. Again, happy birthday, Virginia. And Miss Virginia, excuse me, Mrs. McCaskey? Wood. Yeah. Wait, is it a Mrs. or is it a Miss? Is there a Mr. McCaskey?

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She got a lot of money. Yeah. Okay, anyways, Mr. McCaskill. Let's go back to it. You have to at least pretend to interview Ben Johnson. Yeah. She's not... Address this to George. Mr. McCaskill. George, her son. Her son. Her full-grown adult son. Her seven-year-old son. Who doesn't swear, yes. Mr. McCaskill, you have to at least pretend to interview Ben Johnson. Yes. At the very minimum...

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Okay. So, I mean, those are his predictions. We'll get the final by the end of the show. But let's get into it. So we're going to start with the AFC, the entire AFC picture, and all the games from the AFC today. We have, to set the stage, Chiefs the one seed, Bills the two seed, Ravens the three seed, Texans four, Chargers five, Steelers six, Broncos seven.

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Get him on a Zoom call. Yes. And then you can say we didn't think that his vision for the future of this offense aligned with Chicago Bears values.

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But you can't just hire Brian Flores because Ryan Pohl says, this is my buddy.

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Yeah. That's insane. That's when she fired her other idiot son. What is that guy doing now? Michael McCaskey. Wait, I think he might have died. No. I'm thinking of someone else. Yes, he died. You think of Jimmy Carter? He died. No, he died. He died. But, yeah, they're a mess. I'm not going to think about it today. Today is about beating the Packers.

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Listen, you have to at least pretend to interview Ben Johnson and, yes, give Brian Flores an interview, but also let's not forget about the 40th anniversary of your vaunted 1985 Chicago Bears team. And what better way to move forward as a franchise than by honoring that season and by bringing back a small piece of it, dual head coaches Jeff Fisher and Ron Rivera. That would be fun.

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She was old. That's so old. When the Chicago Bears won the Super Bowl, she was old enough to be confused by the rap in the Super Bowl shuffle.

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Yeah, offended by like, this isn't music. No, seriously, happy birthday. I don't think she's doing, like, she's a sweet old lady. It's not her fault anymore. I mean, I guess it kind of is because she hired her son and whatever it's. Today's about beating the Packers. Nice mom. Today's about beating the Packers. Great mom. Well, she fired one of her sons. Smart move.

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Today's about beating the Packers. We beat the Packers. We are the Packers daddy. Packers fans, you're 0-1 in the last one. Max, I'm going to give you the blueprint on how to beat the Packers. Hell yeah. Thank you. We're back. We're back. I'm going to do it. Are the Packers better with Malik Willis at quarterback? Yes. Jordan Love just throws off his back foot. That's all he does.

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Is Christian Watson hurt? Christian Watson, it looks like he's out. Jordan Love is out. That's actually significant. That does suck for the Packers because he is their field stretcher.

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And I do think that when Malik Willis gets in the game, LaFleur gets more invested in the coaching. Where he's like, I really have to get in my bag. And he calls more creative shit. does things a little bit more unorthodox. They're more fun to watch, I think, when Willis is playing.

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Yeah. By the way, did you guys – I think I did mention this, but the Bears have the same division record as the Packers. One and five. One and five. And I think technically in division they get the tiebreaker on head-to-head point differential because we beat them by two and they beat us by one. Oh, that's big. So this season. So on aggregate, yeah, that's correct.

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We beat them by two, and they beat us by one. So, yeah.

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So better than the Packers in the NFC North. Yeah, on college football division rules, you finished in third place in the division.

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Anyone could beat up on all the other teams. Yeah, in the big North. Anyone, literally anyone could beat teams like the Colts. They could do that. Or the Cardinals. But not everyone can just fight in the NFC North and win on a technicality. Is Thomas Brown the guy? No. They're going to interview him for a head coaching job, which is nice.

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He's doing that. It's good. But no, definitely not. They fucked Thomas Brown over. They made him – he was doing fine. There was a three-game stretch where Caleb looked more confident because he was up in the booth being the OC. And then they're like, hey, dude, you did pretty good for three games, which he started the season not as the OC. Became the OC, three weeks later became the head coach.

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And we'll start with the game that kind of – It took all the intrigue out of Sunday. Broncos 38, Chiefs 0. I went into this game being like, hey, maybe Carson Wentz will show us something and keep this. I never thought the Chiefs were going to win. I thought the Chiefs might cover 11.5. That was stupid of me.

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They fucked that guy over. He did such a good job at being OC that they promoted him. That was really stupid and very Bears-like. But yeah, the future is as grim as possible. I'm not going to get my, I've said this before, I'm not going to get myself excited. What were you saying, Mims? Vrabel. No, Vrabel's the coach of the Patriots, dude. No, Chicago. Maybe the Jets.

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I'm not going to let myself get excited until they actually show me on the field.

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He hasn't signed. Yeah. To my knowledge, he hasn't even interviewed with the Patriots yet. Me neither. Yeah, I don't think he has. But he has interviewed with the Jets. So really, the only job he could take right now is with the Jets.

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Yeah. On his Etsy board. I'm not going to let myself get excited in the offseason and talk myself into something that they have proven time and time against they can't deliver. I will spend the offseason talking about how we're 1-0 against the Packers in the last one. And that's fine. You know what I am? I'm based in facts now. I'm based in results. I'm a results-based guy.

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I'm not going to talk about hypotheticals and who we add and offensive linemen and coach and we're like, oh, you know, the Bears are going to be great. No, no, no. Facts. 1-0 in last one against Packers. This year. Undefeated this year, right? Yep. Facts. Not a lot of teams can say that. I guess the Super Bowl champs. Actually, all of us can. Yeah, all of us can say it.

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And also the Super Bowl champ will be able to say that for sure. Actually, I'm... Unless one of you wins the Super Bowl, yeah, I guess memes Hank and I are going to finish 2025 or start 2025 without a loss.

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Yeah. Whenever they say only one team finishes with a win in their last game, that's actually not true. No. There's a lot of teams. Yeah. 16 of them.

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You know, that's what we were just saying. But you guys are the only ones who have a chance to lose in 2025, which actually I'm happy I don't have a chance to lose so far in 2025. You understand that? No. No, that made no sense.

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It makes perfect sense. He's saying he's happy that they don't have a playoff game that they could lose.

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I'm going to stay 1-0 for the next nine months in 2025. There's a good chance you guys are going to take at least one loss.

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That's the spirit. Yeah. Anybody, anytime, anywhere? I wish, I wish we could... Fuck, I just wish we could change the bracket and play against the Eagles. Nothing would make me happier.

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Oh, I know you were rooting hard for it, too. You were really hard for it. Okay. Should we finish up with who's back of the week? Oh, I have a Roback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com, promo code TAKE. 20% off your first purchase. Roback.com, promo code TAKE. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com, promo code TAKE. My Roback question is, who ended up losing the picks competition?

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He's bad. Carson Wentz made me believe that this might be Patrick Mahomes' best season ever. Yeah. That's how bad the Chiefs look today. Yes. Carson Wentz took the job a little too seriously. You could see when he was rolling up to the game and he was dressed like he was the magician opening act for Mumford & Sons. that this was going to be an all-time shitty game from Carson Wentz.

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The punishment is the loser of the picks competition this year has to go to an AWL's bachelor party and get drunk with AWL's, which isn't really a punishment. It's actually a reward. But some of us don't love traveling when we don't have to work. So that's the punishment this year.

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Now, would we leave open those fucking freaks and weirdos that do a combined bachelor and bachelorette party? No, I said they're out. They're out. If you're listening to this show right now and you do that, stop listening to the show. This show's not for you.

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Unless your fiancé made you do the combine, then you're off the hook.

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If I had lost, I would say it's going to be equal opportunity because I think that we should shine more light on some of the female AWLs out there that sometimes listen to the show. Yeah, I don't want to alienate them.

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can i'm gonna i want to role play real quick like i lost hank asked me uh if i would do that hey big cat like i know we we said bachelor party but i was kind of thinking last oh wait are you thinking bachelorette party yeah i'm in see go that's how that's how i would act because i love our female listeners yas queen i'm in i have a question max max rollback question pft uh why are you afraid of girls

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Good answer. Fair point. All right, so Bachelor and Bachelorette parties. You guys can go get your hair done. Everyone submit even Bachelorette parties?

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What was he wearing? He had the suspenders. He had the weird 1920s-style cap on. The best way to put it, when I saw him, I thought to myself, this looks like your most arrested friend, what he would wear to his wedding to make people think that he had class for four hours.

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Okay. Anywhere? Yeah, anywhere. And it sounds like there's no time limit. Yeah. Well, I can't miss work. No, you can.

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Thank you, memes. Also, if you're one of those bachelor parties that likes to do an activity instead of the whole going out and drinking and getting drunk all the time, if you're doing a group marathon or something like that, like we're all going to travel together and compete in this endurance race, that's cool, too.

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Yeah. Also, is memes... Does he have to go to a retirement party? Yes.

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So we need to find that. Because you finished second place? Yeah, we got to find that. Or a divorce hearing. Or a divorce hearing. I would prefer a divorce hearing. I think that would be funnier. Memes in the back like Harbaugh, Judge Judy. I still think the funeral wasn't that crazy, but whatever. We'll not do that. So, Max, congrats. We had quite a testy Saturday night.

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Yep, and you kept on leaving the group chat over and over. We had to keep adding you back.

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If you're listening to this and you want to invite Max to your bachelorette party, just maybe put, like, a male name.

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There would be a bachelorette whose maybe her fiancé is a big AWL and she wants to make him jealous. Invite Max from Parvati.

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I would love to see the face of some of the girls being like, this is the worst stripper ever. Why did you bring him?

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I got to. Yeah. Okay. Camera. So we'll get it. We'll get it set up. I'm excited for you, Max. Yeah, it'll be good. We're going to pick something good.

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Yeah. And I'm going to tattoo probably actually this week because I think we have a tattoo artist coming in and I'm going to get a perm. Yeah. And I'm going to... The baseball thing, Max hurt his foot.

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We're going to do that. We're going to do that. Okay, should we finish up with who's back of the week? Who's back of the week? Henry. Who's back of the week?

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Oh, yeah. I'm looking at them right now. Yeah. Yeah, and he rented a Land Rover to drive around for four hours to be like, damn, I really did. He basically is like, I'm going to look like an English countryside man.

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Is his dad still kicking? What's his dad up to? He's still kicking. Haven't heard much from him.

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Big baller Billy. Okay. Good. Who's back? Baller Strings. Balls. PFT? Hank, who was your other who's back? Because I have two.

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Am I Who's Back of the Week is Luke Littler. Darts is back. Luke Littler, we have a new world champion in darts. He's 17 years old. He beat Michael Van Gerwen in the finals. Smoked him.

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He looks like he's... 30. By the way, have you seen the clips of the old school, the Penn State football players from the 1980s? Oh, yeah. I don't know what was going on in the world, but if you were 20 years old in the year 1988, you looked like you were 50.

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Yeah, he... He was trying a little too hard. Oh, this is the Max. Max is so good. How many pictures do you think... Actually, it was FSU Brando that did it. Shout out to FSU Brando. But yeah, Carson Wentz. Who's the... Sherlock Holmes. He was basically like, if I could be the backup...

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Yes, absolutely. They all... Smoking. Smoking, yeah. Smoking in bars. That was why everyone looked so much older. Wait, so Luke Nuke is 17? He's 17.

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So he's just going to be the best darts player for the next 40 years? He's the next Michael Van Gerwen. So in the speech that Van Gerwen gave after the darts were over... He said, you know what they say, a star comes along once every 17 years. Basically, in his congratulations speech, he was reminding everybody that he was a star and he is a star.

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But now 17 years after that, when Michael Van Gerwen was 17 years old, now another 17-year-old has taken the crown. Luke the Nuke. Luke the Nuke. Fucking love it. He's a beast. Love it.

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That was a championship. Absolutely crushed him in the championship, too. Look at him.

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Yeah. He's sleeping with a darts trophy. You should do that, producer. Oh, yeah. Okay.

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Josh will get them. Yeah. Look at that haircut. Yes, we should get them on for sure, especially before your nine daughter, Hank. That would be great. Yeah. That would be a great interview.

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My other who's back was going to be Jimmy Butler. Ah, Jimmy. Back in the news. Wait, what did he do, PFT? He's not happy. He pulled a Tyreek Hill, and he's not happy being in Miami. Well, no, Tyreek Hill pulled a Jimmy Butler. Yeah, it is the Jimmy Butler. So Jimmy Butler, I'm shocked that Jimmy Butler is no longer happy. On a team? On a team. He is on a team. No way!

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He doesn't want to be on the team anymore, and he's making a very public demand to be traded from that team or move on. Is this redemption for Shams? Yeah. Kind of?

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I mean, Jimmy Butler, he's ready to move on. Yeah. Back to the Sixers?

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I mean, as a player, sure, but as a guy in the locker room, doesn't feel like... Well, he's been pretty good in Miami. Yeah, but at some point, if this is your fourth team, it might be you.

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Yeah, I think it's probably him. But he was relatively good in Miami. Yeah, of course.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm saying, like, as a teammate, he seemed to be a good teammate for a while. But I feel like Jim, he's on the downside.

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Yeah. It's not getting better. It's actually kind of nice that Miami has to deal with this for once. There are players being like, I want out of Miami. Everyone always wants to leave wherever they are to go to Miami. Well, Dwayne Wade wanted out of Miami. That's true. Okay, my who's back.

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You probably saw that statue and was like, this is how they treat their superstars.

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Yeah. My who's back is Derrick Rose because Derrick Rose night, I attended it Saturday night. Awesome ceremony. Very cool. Made me kind of sad because it was like, oh, I remember when it was cool to have a team and players that were fun to root for. Very, very fun. Also very Bulls that they are retiring his number next year. So they'll just do another Derrick Rose night. But it was very cool.

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for Sherlock Holmes the musical yeah the understudy yeah the understudy I'll do that and I'll show up like that uh not exactly exuding confidence Carson Wentz made this game just it it was never I mean it was more Bo Nix was phenomenal and the Broncos came out and they didn't fuck around and I think that they should wear those uniforms all the time oh for sure because those are the not fuck around uniforms but yeah Carson Wentz it was Carson to Carson Carson Wentz to Carson Steele

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Derrick Rose means a lot to Chicago. And it was a very emotional night. Joe Keem spoke very well. So it was cool.

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So they retired his number last night, but they're going to retire it again next year?

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They didn't retire his number. They announced they're going to retire his number next year. On Derrick Rose night. Right before Derrick Rose night. Okay. So they can do another Derrick Rose night. What prevented them from retiring his number last night? They weren't ready to do it.

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Yeah, the banner. But it was a cool night. It was fun. I actually thought it was going to be the highlight of Chicago sports in 2025 on January 4th. Turns out we ended up beating the Packers. So kind of having a hot 2025 so far. It's a pretty good two-day span.

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Yeah, and they beat the Knicks. I love that they're waiting a year to retire. Yeah. Because they're going to bring him back and do the exact same thing. Exact same thing. Except with a banner.

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And I'll probably go again. Yeah. Because it was fun. And the United Center was packed. The highlight packages were playing. All the old guys were back. Wal Dang, Joe Keem, all these guys were there. It was very cool. It was a cool ceremony, cool night. The Bulls actually did it correctly, unlike last year when they invited everyone back and no one came, and then they booed Jerry Krause's widow.

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Oh, yeah. Well, they didn't boo Jerry Krause's widow. They booed Jerry Krause on the Jumbotron because the Bulls are idiots, and they should have realized if they put him up that was going to happen. Whatever. Either way. And then my other who's back is Fox Sports. Yeah. What happened? They got some stuff going on. The lawsuit, did you read any of it? I read a little bit of it. It's interesting.

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It's a civil lawsuit. But apparently, allegedly, Skip Bayless tried to pay a co-worker $1.5 million to sleep with him.

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1.5. Allegedly. Do you think he started? Did he start with 1.5?

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Yeah, I think that you just say that, and you're just like, that's the number.

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You couldn't just say a million? I'll give you a million bucks.

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That is quite a lawsuit. We'll see how that goes. And I saw Joy Taylor was in the mix there. Listen, my statement here is I'm going to wait and see how it goes. I saw Emmanuel Ocho having to delete tweets. That's very funny. That was very funny to me. Did you see the video that he put out? Yeah, that was... Oh, he put out a statement?

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Yeah, which is like, dude, people are going to figure that out. I just... Emmanuel Ocho doesn't like us. I'm not the biggest fan of his. He's a weirdo. It would just be very funny just to watch him have to...

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squirm a little I think Emmanuel Acho is the weirdest person on television yeah he's very strange and yeah in the video he was like just talking about how great Joey Taylor was kind of out of nowhere yeah and then he deleted that video because he's like people are gonna find this and repost it which is so weird which is just stridesanding himself yes exactly

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We'll see. We'll see how that goes. I don't know. That was a bombshell. Skip, obviously, is just tweeting and not addressing anything. At all, because he doesn't follow anybody on Twitter. Yeah. I also don't know how you do address it other than with lawyers, right? Yeah, you probably shouldn't address it. Yeah, probably should just let it play out.

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Also, Colin Coward seems like whatever happens with this lawsuit, he was, like, exonerated. Yeah, no creepy stuff about him.

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He's not a creep. I want to say, for the record... I would have taken $1.5 million to sleep with Skip Bayless. You would have taken $0 with Skip?

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Bengals keep their playoff hopes alive. 30, Broncos 24. Whoop! Whoop!

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Max is worried. Best case scenario for the show and for you specifically would be Commander's Rams first round, Commander's win. That's true. Eagles Packers first round, Eagles win. Eagles win. And you get all the bad juju out of the way, and then we get Commander's Eagles.

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Illegal shift. You had 16 penalties today. There's a lot.

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I PFT as well has have Lamar, but I feel like Josh Allen locked it up today. Like I feel like if they won like kind of an ugly, like, you know, 14 to three stinker, but he played well, had the stats.

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Yeah. Well, you'd take Travis Hunter. No, I think you would trade back.

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But you could trade back at least a few spots and get more picks. Again, like we learned last year, I don't even know anything about the draft. But today I was thinking about it. It's like there's no world where even if we have the one pick, we're not drafting first.

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Yeah, but I feel like when it comes down to it, teams get sold on QBs. Yeah, you're probably right. QBs get sold off on QBs no matter how good or not good they are.

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I mean, Nick Wright's tweet was ridiculous but also kind of hilarious.

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And I feel like Dion Dion's has made that happen the whole way. So why not? Why not? Yeah.

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Ruff and Rowdy, you guys picked me up after Ruff and Rowdy. That was elite.

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Yeah, we're going to do that. We're going to do that. Not if it's the Commanders.

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You can't put that on me and Big Cat Shoulders. No. We'll need some help.

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I wrote that this is a rage boomer too, so I haven't gone back to it.

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I will say this. Listen, I was in, and I traveled from San Diego to Houston to new Orleans along the way. I had two flights get delayed. My bag got sent to Frankfurt, Germany. Uh, Is it your golf clubs? No, not my golf clubs, but it's closed. That's the thing.

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The people that I was with on the plane were so much more stressed out, and there was like a – when we landed in Houston, the lady – because we stopped and we got – we just got stuck on the runway for like an hour because they couldn't – there was no open gates. I guess there's construction going on at the airport. It was chaos.

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And so when we finally get to a taxi, the lady like behind me was like, does anyone have a connecting flight? And everyone, like she was trying to like push up. Every single person was like, yeah. Like everyone was on edge. There was a lady in front of me in a wheelchair. And so like I'm taking my time. And there was people behind me like being like, you know, run.

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Like people were on edge, sprinting through the airport, like really upset. Like I was obviously like not loving it, but also not like – I was like, it's not that serious, not that big a deal. And then I realized my bag got sent to Frankfurt, Germany. I'm pretty sure that the person in front of me was going to Frankfurt, Germany.

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And when she scanned her thing, they just gave me her tag and put that on my bag. I don't really know. Um, that was kind of what I came up with, but it's not, it's not that big a deal, but it was like just a long day. But the, the people, people sprinting through the airport is kind of a funny, like people watching experience. Like just people were flying, people were upset.

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The lady tried to push her way up the flight. Um, so I had a long day, whatever. And then after all that, I was riding my boomer in the, in the cab ride to my hotel.

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so what was in your bag that's in germany just close that's so it's like i i actually have my boxers and my toiletries with me so it's like all i need to do is go i need to go buy and i have my laptop and stuff so like all the expensive stuff i have with me um i the lady did kind of like make me check my bag she was like oh can you just check it like it's a big bag like you have two big bags i was like

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but it's a carry-on. She's like, yeah, but it's a full flight. Just check it. I was like, where does it go to? She's like, it goes to your final destination. I'm like, all right, whatever. I wish I had shot that down.

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Yeah, I'm going to go get some fits off tomorrow. Yeah, having boxers and toiletries in my laptop and stuff, it's really not – It's not too, too bad. It was just a long – the lady was like – I'm pretty sure she's like, well, this isn't your tag. I'm like, it is my tag. It's the tag that gave me. Whatever. It was a long day.

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Justin Herbert Hoover said, damn, that was smooth after a jazzy first quarter touchdown to Darius Miles Davis. Yes. Drake Mayflower led a voyage down the field and connected with Itza Mia DeMario Douglas for a touchdown. In the second half, Ladd McConkie said, I'll be your wish, I'll be your dream, I'll be your fantasy championship winning wide receiver.

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Scoring two touchdowns along with 94 yards to make a lot of people very happy. Patriots 7, San Diego Superchargers 40. This team could make some noise in the playoffs. Boom.

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That was a good game for Gerard Mayo getting out of town. Like that was best case scenario. I was with my brother. We were like, it was like, that was kind of what we wanted. Whereas like we were with my brother and some of our friends who aren't Patriots fans. And they're like, do you want them to win? We were like, we want them to get smoked.

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We want Drake to play well, but we want them to get smoked to the point where it's like, get him out of town.

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He was probably upset, but that's probably like a good thing. But yeah.

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I feel like rich guys, they're surrounded by yes men. Situations like that, they force you to look in the mirror.

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That's what I'm saying. They're surrounded by so many yes men that you literally can't look at anyone else but the mirror when it's like, oh, fuck, this is bad.

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Which he came back. Yeah, he did come back, but two concussions in a year, not ideal.

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Yeah, we just got to do it one more time, and then we control. We have everything.

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I just don't – I don't think like – And I could be wrong. I don't think that the next season interdivisional, like that's a, I feel like that's a fan thing to think. Like, I don't like, do you think Sean McDermott's that five head of a coach to be like, we don't want our interdivisional opponent to like get the first pick. Cause that's going to screw us in the future.

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Like they have to, they, even if they think it, they have to game plan to win.

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Yeah, because the Giants – that game was – you're watching and you're like, all right, like if they are tanking, they're going to find – but they just kept winning the game.

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Yeah, I would hope that the like that decision has been made already. I think I think it was like there's been three coaches that have the number one pick that have actually like used it. All time. What do you like? The coach that was the coach the year they, you know, ended up with the number one pick. That was still the coach the next year.

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So only three teams drafting number one did it with the same head coach as the previous year. The 77. This is weird. I guess this is from a Twitter account that.

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The 77 Tampa Bay Bucs, the 1992 Indianapolis Colts, and the 2017 Cleveland Browns.

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Which is also not potentially a reliable source, but it is the one that I saw.

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What were the three teams, Hank? 1977 Tampa Bay Bucs, the 1992 Indianapolis Colts, and the 2017 Cleveland Browns.

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Again, this is Uncle Buck 2006-17. So asterisk, asterisk.

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I'll just say it. It's 1140. I ordered $100 a room service when I got in this hotel room two hours ago, and it's not here yet. I'm starting to get concerned, and I'm starving. That's the Who's Back of the Week? Nope. My other Who's Back of the Week was club hockey. I just needed to get that out there because I'm dying inside. My other Who's Back of the Week was club hockey.

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Oh, because of what team was it? UNLV. Yeah. ACHAM1, which is club hockey, which is like every college has their actual hockey team and the club hockey team, which is just kids that play in high school that like, you know, get drunk and play club hockey, which is fun. They beat NCAA D1 defending national champions, University of Denver 76th.

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In a shootout, which is like that is that is the dream. That is like that is why you play sports. That's what it's all about. Like a club hockey team beating the reigning D1 national champions is like that's that's everything.

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Yeah, probably a club hockey person. That's like, yeah, no, club hockey is legit.

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I have a lot of friends that play club hockey at UMass. They would say it's legit. It is legit, but it's still... It's a crazy upset.

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I mean, I'm a club – I love club hockey. Like, shout out to clocky. But, like, I don't – I'm not going to – like, it's not – It's crazy upside. A club hockey team beating the D1 national champions is an insane story. I don't – there's no world where it's not.

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You've got to beat everyone. You should be expecting to beat – you're going to play the one seed. You're realistically going to play the one seed at some point, so you're going to have to beat them.

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Okay, last numbers of the year. Numbers. Three. Eleven. Twenty-five.

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He wore 11 at Penn State. You could look at it that way, that he's already done this before and worn a legacy number and lived up to it. Doesn't everyone wear 11 at Penn State, though? Every player? No, but like Micah Parsons, LeVar Arrington.

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How he did it again. Oh, nice. That's just a thing that every time the Eagles would pick, you just go on Twitter, and everyone just says how he did it again. Yeah. That's awesome.

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I mean, we definitely got the most athletic linebacker. I don't know if that's true. Jaha Campbell definitely was. Oh, we're not talking about first round. But he's a linebacker. Okay. Well, that's cheating. I also think we were going to draft Shadur. You think so?

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Yeah, they asked Howie Roseman after the draft because the Browns picked him. The Eagles were the very next pick. And they asked him after if he was going to draft Shador with the next pick. Then he was like, we're not talking about people we didn't draft. We're only worried about the people that we did. But he didn't answer the question.

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I hated that that game was on Friday. I hated that that game was on Friday. Max brings up a good point.

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Max? Memes is going insane. What is he saying? He's on his... Memes has been so weird this whole episode.

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I also don't know. How does that even work mathematically? Like 100 people with one gorilla. There's not enough surface area. What?

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You're such a piece of shit thing to say. Were you like hanging out with him? I was sitting in front of him. Why does everyone laugh? I was sitting in front of this guy.

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Not really. I don't really know who it is. What were you guys chopping it up about? It was just, like, ballgame banter. There was a guy sitting behind me that, like... I was getting really pissed off about the Phillies. And then people behind me were like, are you a Phillies fan? The way you're talking about the Phillies.

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Right. And then, you know, it's just like ball game banter. And then after the game, Mook was like, I'm pretty sure that was Eddie Vedder that was sitting behind us. Cause apparently he's a big Cubs fan. Yes. And we were sitting in, we were sitting in the 1914 club. So it wouldn't make sense that he was there.

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That was so funny. It very well could not. I have no idea. I have no idea. This is going off of what somebody else said.

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I looked up a picture. It did kind of look like one of the guys that was behind us. I don't know what else to say. What was Mook basing it off of? I have no idea. Mook texted me after the game. I think that was Eddie Vedder that was sitting behind us.

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All right. But I don't know because in a million years, I would have never guessed what he looked like.

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It's football weather. This is what it is. But here's the problem that I have. And it doesn't necessarily apply to these two teams. But being a guy that played in a dome, being a guy that played in Arizona, I have no way to get ready for those conditions. And so you can say all you want about home field advantage and that's why you play. Well, no, because the Patriots can come to Arizona and

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And there's no difference, other than we have our fans, obviously. But they can play in my weather. I can't play in their weather because I can't get used to it. There's nothing you can do to get used to cold weather in a situation. So, to me, I'm just like, I want the best. I want to be able to be my best. I want to play against their best. And I want the best to advance.

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And so, for me, last night, I mean... I played in that weather before. I grew up in Iowa, so I played in all that stuff. It's just like Bass kicking that ball. I'm sure when he kicked it, he's like, oh, that's money. That's right down the middle.

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Oh, I didn't know that. I did not know that. Yeah, I need to check on that then. I did not know that. Yeah, I'd rather our stuff not be out there. Thanks.

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keep going get back yeah we're talking to Schwarber when he came it was after he came back from his ACL and he said that when they were thinking about bringing him back up for the playoffs he just stood in the batter's box and would track like a thousand pitches not even swing just to like watch pitches come in yeah what's the longest you've ever been without stepping into the box whether it's against the machine or a person

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Is it better to lose in game six, like get the shit kicked out of you, get your teeth stomped in, get your guts pulled out of your belly button, or then to go on to lose game seven and get the shit kicked out of you?

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You want to be where the action's at. You got to make an arrangement with the opposing bullpen before the game. Like, hey, if shit goes down, it's you and I. It's like hockeys and goalies.

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Yeah, but it's also on a Friday, so it's kind of like a news dump. Got it. But Sunday is in front of the world. Got it. Max, you didn't know that stat.

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So you guys were playing lawn darts, and then somebody got hit in the ankle with a lawn dart, and they were just like, fuck it, we ball.

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There was no drama whatsoever in this for that guy. It was tied. It was in fact tied. And it was like, oh shit, is Scotty going to melt down? Is he going to fall apart? Had a couple bad bogeys on the front nine. And then Rahm looked like he was being mentally strong. And then everything bad possible happened to Jon Rahm. And Scotty just kept being Scotty. Just dialed in.

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Uh, there was, we're going to get into a smiling a little bit. There was a full recap with smiling controversy about Rory's driver and his driver face, but we have an update to that now. Oh, okay. We have an update to the, uh, the driver that was pulled from Rory because the face was too thin on it.

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uh sheffler scotty sheffler the champion just admitted that his driver was also tested this week and did not comply that he needed to switch drivers before the tournament wow and he said if we're going to do it right we need to be more robust even test guys every single week wow every driver tested but he won but he won but he talked to the media about getting the driver taken he did not use the the bad driver in this tournament huh

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this guy fucking watches Stu Feiner say eat ass lick clit yeah also before going to church massive respect to Mrs. Scheffler because after Scottie makes the final putt on 18 the first thing she does she's like you take the baby yeah like immediately she's like I've been carrying this baby around all day You take the baby. He's your thing to deal with now.

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And then Scotty takes him into the clubhouse and has to distract him with a hat and another toy. Be like, hey, just focus on this real quick. I have to sign my scorecard for this major championship to count. Can you just look at this hat for a second?

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Yeah. I mean, on Sunday morning, when you can bet on it online, you couldn't even really bet on Scottie. The odds were just so crazy.

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Yeah. I've watched every major championship for the last, I'm going to say, 15 years. I had forgotten that Scottie had only won two. Yeah. It felt like he had won four, right?

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I know. He wins every other thing, and he's won two Masters, and he's so dominant when he wins that you're just like, this guy is clearly the best golfer in the sport. I had completely forgotten that he had only won two. I knew he had the two Masters. I thought maybe, I don't know, maybe he had sprinkled in a PGA or US Open at some point, but...

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He's going to be 29 in a month. Okay. And Jon Rahm is how old? Jon Rahm is also a sneaky. Jon Rahm, I think he's 30.

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Jon Rahm is 30. He is 30. So Jon Rahm is younger than Hank. Yeah. And Scotty is younger than Max. Mm-hmm. That's crazy. Yeah.

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It's the size. It's the size. Jon Rahm, same thing. Yeah, but Jon Rahm's got one of those faces that he could pass as like 45, I think. They just got size to it. They got heft, density. Scotty's also just too mature for his age. Yeah, that too. Do you think we're going to get a period where Scotty just goes absolutely wild? No. You don't think so? I would say no.

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I think we're going to get a period where Scotty... Without even entailing for Scotty. It would be like two bottles of wine. Two bottles of wine.

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Well, I mean, if we had had this exact same conversation, Big Cat, a year and a week ago, and we were to say, Scotty Scheffler, lifetime odds to ever be arrested...

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All right, we'll do hockey. Let's do hockey. Yeah, yeah. Hank's just betting on that volcano in Yellowstone to erupt at some point before we get to the Celtics recap.

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Leafs. Turns out it wasn't their year. Not their year. Panthers look great. The first period Leafs were okay, but once that ref got his face caved in by a stick, everything just tilted towards the Panthers. And the thing about the Leafs is if you get two quick goals on them, they just crumble. Oh, yeah. They turn into the biggest pile of snot that you could see.

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Pretty incredible. The barn was rocking. Pretty tough loss to bounce back from with a handshake line. Yeah. But you got to do it.

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Yeah. But it was great TV. He's like a fan, except he's only really been a fan of the team for a couple seasons. But he's gotten off the deep end for them. I do think that the Leafs discussion is going to be interesting this offseason because they cannot come back with that same team. It's not going to happen.

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That's because he is the best at neutralizing any situation of anybody that I've ever met in my entire life. True.

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cop went down there he's like hey yeah we've heard some complaints that there was a guy demonstrating side pouch up against the glass we're gonna have to kick you out sir and then by the time they got to the top of the steps the cop was probably like hey you want to come to my kid's birthday yeah you seem like a fun guy i think he just got moved i think his sections got moved i don't think he actually got kicked out because he is that good yeah he can neutralize anyone um what else hank

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Yeah, the jockey was saying afterwards, like, yeah, I've run this type of race with him before. He has that ability to do it. And I'm glad that he won. Look at me. Yeah, that's some old school shit right there. That's some bumping and grinding. That's some full contact horse racing right there going up to the 18th fairway.

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Yeah, you said it was awesome, right? Yeah, you said it was awesome. I said it was wild. A couple people died. Yeah, a couple people died, Hank. I never said it was awesome. It was not awesome. It was a Mexican Navy training ship. It's an insane video. There's a lot of stuff going on with ships running into bridges these days. Insane video. What do you think about that, Hank? I know.

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The first person I thought about, this is sad, the point that Hank's broken my brain, but the first person I thought about when I saw this video was Hank and what kind of dots he's connecting to try to pull this all together. Yeah. So what's your theory?

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When it comes to Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese, there's a lot of people that don't care about the WNBA who have thoughts about the WNBA. And there's also a lot of people that care very deeply about the WNBA that don't want all the discourse from their fan base growing to a point where it reaches critical mass in America where you get assholes rooting for your sport.

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But here's the dirty secret is if you want to be a successful league, you have to reach that point where the world's biggest shitheads have very strong opinions about all your athletes. Correct. It's like a little catch-22, and it's fun to see a league deal with those growing pains because obviously people are talking more about the WNBA in the last two years than they have in a very long time.

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And it's not to say that they didn't have fans. Their fans were just... It was a smaller group. And now it made that leap all of a sudden to becoming a national talking point on not just sports media, but just...

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mainstream media in general it's not yeah it's it's just race racism and now every game is a race war and now think about all the shitheads out there that pay attention to any sort of like news like if you deal with a national news program you're reaching millions of people a lot of whom are very dumb yeah and now they're going to have strong takes on your sport how do you deal with the idiots now becoming fans of your sport the uh the following question was a regular foul

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Yeah, I think Angel Reese is struggling with the fact that Kaitlyn Clark is better at her best thing than she is. She's better at everything.

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Yeah. She's just better. And they don't like each other, which is, again, I think good for the sport. Great for the sport. That they don't like each other. But then how do you deal with having a bunch of weirdos out there that now care very deeply about your sport? Yes. without trying to actively push them away, which is also a mistake. Right. To push away the attention that your sport's getting.

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Yeah, well, the thing that she does have, and I think this actually contributes to why she's really not having a good time with all the Caitlin Clark publicity, is the fact that they did beat Caitlin Clark in the championship in college. Correct. So she's got that in the back of her head. Now she's struggling to realize that, oh shit, she's way better than me.

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That's right, yeah. People are mad. Oh, yeah, you got that? People are mad at Juan Soto. Both sides are mad at Juan Soto.

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The Crossout Cup was so sad. But yeah, Yankees fans are pissed at Soto because he left and they booed him. I actually like Soto's response to it where he just tipped his hat to all the booing fans in right field. He was just like, yeah, bring it on, bring it on. And then now Mets fans are mad because he didn't run out of the batter's box.

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He doesn't care. Yeah. Also, he doesn't really owe you anything. No. No. Why is Juan Soto the bad guy in this situation?

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the fans should celebrate the fans should enjoy every moment of this and soak it in and have the best time ever especially like basketball and hockey when the weather turns there's no better celebration yeah shut down seventh avenue climb up the foul poles it rocked high five uh timothy chalamet is hanging out the side of a limousine yep do all that stuff you should absolutely celebrate you got to the eastern conference finals which is obviously difficult to do

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First conference finals in 25 years. First, yeah, in 25 years. And you've got a very fun team to root for. A tough team. A mentally, physically tough team.

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I think today you are well-deserved to celebrate this as a New York Knicks fan. And the team is fun to root for. They're so fun, in fact, that I find myself rooting for the New York Knicks, which is crazy when you think that New York fans, they're also Rangers fans. They're also Yankees and Mets fans. It's insane, but this is a likable team.

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Now you're in the Eastern Conference Finals. And I appreciate also that New York did not give a shit when the Nets were good. No. They're like, we don't care.

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Like I said, the Knicks being scrappy underdogs, it's an interesting position for New York fans to be in. And Big Cat, did they lose that going up against the Pacers? Because they were going up against the defending champions, so it was easy to root for the Knicks against the Boston Celtics for a lot of people out there that didn't have a dog in the fight.

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Game seven weekend. Duds. The anticipation for the game seven is way better than the actual game sevens. This is making me disagree with LeBron's take, and he's the first person I've ever heard say this, the two best words in sports, Game 7. Yes. That actually, this kind of puts me back onto Game 6s. I might be a Game 6 guy.

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Going up against the Pacers, do you think they lose that? Or do you think they just lean heavily, heavily into the past of Reggie Miller versus the Knicks and they just stir up those old emotions?

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I think that the Knicks are fun to root for, but then you see one or two examples of them celebrating this win that makes you think, I could see myself being motivated to hate this fan base.

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I like rooting for the Knicks right now, but I can see a world in which I completely flip on them, and Exhibit A might be your very own Knicks fan here. Memes? Memes. Yeah. Memes, and you should celebrate memes. You should celebrate. You went on a war path.

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You have some deep-seated shit against Hank. I mean, you could tell that this was something that memes put a lot of effort into because I don't think you did a Max Photoshop. No. You didn't put Max's face on anybody. That's a great point. You weren't even high off the prize. Yeah, memes. If the Knicks lose in the Eastern Conference Finals, you have to do the Statue of Liberty with Max's face. Oh.

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And the Cavs, too. It was like those three teams beat the shit out of the Knicks in the regular season. So I understand that.

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That was nice of you, Max, trying to save Hank. On Friday, it was reported that Cat is going to be traded to the Knicks. Hank, how do you feel about this trade?

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Hank, when you say that you have the Knicks, do you have the Knicks or do the Knicks get you? Because after the game, the Knicks fans, they were outside MSG. And you know what they were chanting? What? We want Boston. We want Boston. We want Boston. Yeah, they don't have a choice.

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What about your game seven that you had, Hank? Didn't have a game seven. Oh, why not? It's Monday night. Oh, okay.

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Let's do it. Hank is so egotistical that he thought that we were talking about the Celtics this whole time.

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So about that, because I'm kind of glad in this way that we didn't have a show on game night. Now you've had some time to process it, and you've really thought about how bad things could look next year for you personally. So where do you see this team going this offseason?

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yeah yeah because i want we it needs to be talked because there's a lot listen credit to the old owners of the celtics because they did what i think most of us would have done which is let's just give out some fucking contracts before we sell the team we're not going to have to pay them and then somebody buys the team and now you're talking luxury tax you're talking all these superstars all these great players new owner is a boston guy so maybe he kind of just does the same thing where he's like fuck it let's just do whatever it takes to win uh

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I think Dr. Bing Bong ruled him out for all next year. He also has some thoughts on Kristaps, but it's not for air.

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memes how long did it take for you like when did you start compiling the list of shit that you're gonna put out the instant that the Celtics lose

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That's pretty reasonable. And to be fair to Hank, to take Hank's side just a little bit, when Hank said that he would not be worried if they went down 0-2, he never actually thought that they would be down 0-2. So it was really easy for him to say that in the moment.

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brutal yeah you're gonna have to go on the duck boat and get drunk with joe mizzoula you're gonna have to do a lot of stuff now you don't have to do it have you looked up golf courses in indiana because you're like we might be playing the pacers let's see if there's something close by no no i did not do that you could have gone to games there yeah that would have been cool oh man would have been cool i'm excited for pacers next i'm excited for how much golf hank's gonna get to play yeah max how are you your max is mad max was mad that it was a friday night game

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I don't think that Seattle would allow OKC to claim any of their past success. Correct. I think they'd put up a pretty big fight for that.

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That was going to be mine. Yeah, maybe. I would definitely put the Browns on there even though it's the wintertime. Their river catches on fire. That city is very flammable. I would also say Montreal because Montreal has a culture where it's like you riot after good things happen to you like in Europe.

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What would be great about New York is that you get snippets from like seven different neighborhoods. Yeah. All celebrating in their own crazy ways. Yeah.

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Yes? Oh, this is good. This is a big announcement. You said that you weren't going to watch the rest of the playoffs.

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I said, all these other teams, get the fuck out of here. The Celtics. I was also egging Hank on a little bit with that. But the ESPN analyst, this is now the 3-0 for them. Yeah. So they all picked against the Timberwolves against the Lakers. They all picked against the Pacers against the Cavs. And they all picked against the Knicks against the Celtics. Yeah.

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It is pretty cool. It is pretty cool. And the Thunder, it looked like the series was just too long for the Nuggets. They were too old, too banged up. Aaron Gordon was playing on one and a half legs pretty much. He couldn't jump off his left leg. What a beast. He's a beast, yeah.

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oh my god the next chapter season oh yeah okay so there's four seasons i think she's in them is she in the new one i've got it pulled up right now uh let's see starring i don't see her name in this okay i also don't see lin-manuel miranda's name i think hank just look at the guy okay oh yeah i see lin-manuel no no he is that is him is that him no no i don't think it is look at him though that's callum mcgowan that does look like him i'm looking at it yeah like he had to have written this show

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Yeah. I mean, to be fair, Hank did take like everything before Who's Back came up. So my Who's Back of the Week is Vanny Woodhead. Oh. How's Vanny Woodhead looking?

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Okay, because when was the due date on Fannie Woodhead again? It was spring, summer-ish, so it would be right now. I just hadn't heard anything about him, so I figured we might check in, see how he's doing.

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it's true because lebron remember when he got hurt in the last game of the lakers season they for some reason put out a timetable for his return which no one needed or asked for right so the hypothetical return if they had won yeah here's what i would be able to do steph curry had the same injury didn't play at all it's true i missed a softball game with the same injury yeah these are these are all like elite athletes that aren't able to will themselves to do it and somehow aaron gordon was pretty he had he led the the

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So we shouldn't be looking for alternative routes? No. So it's no longer spring-ish summer. It still could be. Solidly summer?

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game and rebounds pretty pretty incredible and the final score won't tell you the full story because up until about three minutes left in the first half it was a one point game and it was like it looked like it was gonna be a defensive struggle looked like it was gonna be an ugly game the exact kind of game that I think the Nuggets would want to be in yeah that they might have a chance to win and then in the last three minutes of that first half it all fell apart and I believe it was 42 to 41 with three minutes left in the second

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I'm looking up what he got busted for. It looks like he got busted for taking supplemental testosterone. So I don't know if that's necessarily a fat boy move. The way you made it seem was that he got busted.

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I think that's why the MLB came out and said what it actually was. Yeah. Just because they said. That's bad, Max.

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And then Oklahoma City went on an 18-5 run to close out the half, and then it was just never close from that point.

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kind of a boring ending but a very exciting uh hour or two in there just not knowing what exactly was going to happen yeah did we see a little bit of that emotion from scotty as he won like you guys forgot about me is this bad boy scotty that we got to see drop the gloves because i mean he made that putt on 18 spikes the hat that's an outburst the likes of which we've never even imagined from scotty to throw his hat on the ground and everybody was like oh my god i can't believe this guy showed emotion

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Yes. So I was looking at a bunch of the stats that you were kind of alluding to, and he's on all these lists with Tiger and Jack Nicklaus, as you mentioned, the only golfers to win. Two Masters and a PGA before their 30th birthday.

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You can look at the stats, and I'm a little bit upset at Scottie because it was going to be fun to say that he's just a Masters merchant, that he's like Rafa Nadal, and he can only win at Augusta, and he doesn't even bother competing in the other majors. So we can't talk about that anymore. But when we're talking about strokes gained and all this data that you brought up, Where can you see that?

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Where can an average casual golf fan watch him play? Was it Saturday this year where it's like he's dealing with the same conditions as everybody else, but he's just hitting the ball that much better?

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Right. Yeah. I saw this was from John Sherman. He was watching the round today and he said that Scotty came out with his club face too closed. But as the round went on, he found a way to manage it and that he'll go down as an all time great because of his face control. So I think he has terrible face control.

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Resting bitch face is what he's got. Yeah. So Scotty had resting bitch face today, but he learned how to smile through it somehow. Is that something that that you can like see on a broadcast? Like, can you tell like he's figuring this out as a round goes on? Or is this like something that you say when you're watching it to try to sound smart?

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What does that mean, though? What is conforming? My understanding was that the drivers, as you use them more, as you hit more shots with them, the face gets thinner. And so then through natural wear and tear, as the face gets thinner, it becomes almost a springboard because the face has a little bit of give to it. So it could be something where it's not like it's a driver that he got from a store.

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He didn't see an infomercial for get 20 extra yards as you drive. I did that. Yeah, with this fake driver. But it was like just through overuse. And the same thing happened to, was it Shoffley a couple years ago at the Open?

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Yeah, you should test every driver. Should that be on the players? Do the players monitor how their driver looks at all? Because I wouldn't think, unless there's a crack on your driver and there's something screwed up about the ball flight, I wouldn't think that most players are self-reporting, hey, can you check this?

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Yeah, I mean, it was one of those games where Caruso, as a defender, proved that he's worth everything that you're paying him, and then some. And I feel like the games that the Thunder, as a team, do really well are the games where Caruso is not a top scorer on the team. You know, the Alex Caruso games, I think we talked about them losing one of the Alex Caruso games.

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What happened with that shot that Jon Rahm hit where it hit the dude in the head and then bounced off his head and went onto the green? How did it bounce that far off his head, number one? And two, did anybody check on that guy to make sure he's okay? Because that seemed like it was pretty intense. Yeah.

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Yeah, because that guy just went up to John Rahman and was like, hey, man, sorry about that. We're all good. Don't worry about it. I was like, dude, that shot just hit your head as hard as it possibly can, and then it bounced 50 yards.

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Yeah, I was concerned about the man's health. And the next thing that I saw, he's like shaking hands with John Rahman, like getting an autographed glove from him. And they're like hooting and hollering like that was awesome. Yeah.

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Okay, because I heard that people in Louisiana couldn't watch part of the final round because it cut to a press conference about escaped inmates at a prison.

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I can only imagine how upset golf fans in Louisiana were that they had to deal with that. You alluded to it earlier, but maybe if you could narrow it down just a little. You said, like, with all these great players that we have right now, you don't know who the next major champion is going to be from the list of the guys that don't have one yet.

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Yeah, when he's just fighting people in the background, when he's playing hard defense, those are the games that fall into place for the Thunder. Yeah, they did kind of grow up. But, again, it was a close game. It was a very close game until the end of the first half.

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I found the video of you snapping the club here. Do you remember what iron that was? It was 7-iron. Yeah. 7-iron. So what do you do for the rest of the round? Afterwards, I imagine that you have a couple seconds probably where you're like, sweet, that was awesome. And then reality sets in where you're like, oh, shit, I actually don't have a 7-iron.

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I'm going to say it was a close game until – that's back to my point about just it being a long series for the older team. Yeah. And they seemed to just run out of all the gas that they had stored up.

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This might be a dumb question, but what is, what is the drug testing policy like on the tour? How often do you get to randomize, randomize it?

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We know with the NFL guys, they actually watch you pee. They have to be in the room. They're like, come on, let's see the hog.

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Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. It does. So, um, How should we feel about Max's tournament? Because he had a great Friday, right? Like an absolutely fantastic Friday. And then things kind of went a little bit downhill. But I would say that making the cut and having that great day to get you to make the cut, I'm going to choose to look at this as a positive weekend for Max Homa.

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Yeah. Yeah. He has like flashes in these series where he'll like explode for 40, but he did not play up to his own standards.

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Yeah, when Caruso was just banging with him down low, Jokic, he said, like, my last resort is I'm going to have to flop against Alex Caruso. Yeah. And he got rewarded for it a little bit. But, yeah, he was in a bad spot. He couldn't get it done all by himself. And Aaron Gordon, I think that was the big difference in this game because going into this game –

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Well, the Nuggets wouldn't have won with a healthier Aaron Gordon. They lost by 35 points. Yeah, but I'm saying into this game, the Nuggets were plus 32 with Gordon on the court and minus 68 when he was not on the court. Yeah. So it makes a difference. Of course. I'm just trying to give a little bit of context. Obviously, the Thunder were the better team in this series.

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It's like practice squad in the NFL, except if you have a downside to making the practice squad too. Yeah, that's crazy. With you, Kyle, you have a different story because when you got brought up, or you made the team after spring training, right? And then you just didn't play. So they were like, you know, we got to send you back down because you're not getting any at-bats.

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It went 7, so it's not like it was a blowout one way or the other. It was a dominant Game 7 performance. For sure. But in context, I think that it was a closer series than we're making it seem when we say that Jokic sucked.

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So that's kind of crazy. It's like I made it, but then through something outside of my control, I'm no longer in the big leagues.

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Yeah. That's a natural reaction. I would imagine like if there's something wrong with you, if you get back in, you're like, I'm not afraid.

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At Stanford, are the baseball players cool there, or are the cool guys on campus like the Silicon Valley, we're going to be heading some AI company next year, guys?

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Stolen values. Yeah, you can't do that. So Kyle, with you, you know, the importance of routines, we're talking about pitching, but for hitting, I'm always fascinated by the different routines guys get into in the batter's box and how kind of the pitch clock might've screwed some of those up. Like you look at dudes like back in the day, Nomar would have like nine, 10 different things.

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What's the fastest pitch that you ever... I'm sure that you've seen some fast pitches in games, but when you get in the cage, what's the fastest you've ever dialed it up to?

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When you hit a walk-off, I have to imagine that the trot around the bases is usually faster because you've got the adrenaline.

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It's like, okay, yeah, you almost end up sprinting around the bases, but if you hit a go-ahead in the ninth, then you can kind of pimp it a little bit.

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Is he away? They kind of fucked him over, though. To be clear, yeah, all he wanted to do was throw out every first pitch.

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You want to have Marlins man appreciation day at the park. He wanted like six tickets for him and his mermaids that he brings. Yeah. It's really, yeah.

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Two things missing from the Marlins is the giant fish statue in center field. I know they moved it outside the park. but the giant fish that would jump in the air at a home run, and then Marlins man not being there. It's kind of – I yearn for the days of like 2018, you know? Marlins man showing up to the games.

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And you know that he's going to be actually planning his pitches and you can kind of like get inside and say, okay, this feels like a fastball. This feels like maybe some off-speed stuff. If it's a guy from the outfield, it's like here comes some junk that I'm not going to have any idea, you know, how to hit. It's going to be 55 miles per hour. Right.

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Yeah, I have no idea what to expect at all from the Timberwolves Nuggets or Timberwolves Thunder series because... Both teams play great defense. Both teams have emerging superstars that you think that you can trust that are fun to watch when they're great. But one of the guys is going to be obviously able to elevate their game to the next level, and the other's not.

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I think they scored three runs in two innings. Yeah, so I was pretty pumped about it. But again, I was so slow. I think it was like 68, 69. Yeah, but I was pretty wild.

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I'm 40 years old. There were a couple where I'm like, you know what? I'm going to reach back and really let this one eat. And I think those got all the way up to like 71.5 miles per hour.

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Were other parents like scared of you when you were pitching? It's like, I don't want my son in the box against that guy.

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Yeah. I feel like that's gotta be a change mentally going from being a starting pitcher to a relief pitcher. It's like you could, any given day you go to the ballpark, you could have the bowling.

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Do you pitch differently coming in as a reliever as opposed to getting a starting? Like, if you're starting the first inning, top of the first, you know who you're going to be facing.

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Yeah, but I mean that's almost too huge because I don't want to have to compete against anybody to draft you.

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that's my guy that's that's like a smart kid a four-year-old being like i don't fuck with that he doesn't he doesn't like any mascots but the fanatic he's friendly with okay like a little bit more so than the others yeah yeah so you said uh after your mlb debut he about your son he was crying after the game i was hoping it was happy tears but he was really just scared of the braves mascot

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Yeah. What's the biggest difference behind the scenes for you guys going from minor leagues to major leagues? Like the spread in the clubhouse?

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What's that like moving into just a totally random stranger's house and being like, hey, I'm kind of going to be a son for you for two months?

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Yeah. You got like three teenage daughters, and then you invite a baseball player into your house. I feel like there's something going on with that definition.

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The problem was the PGA also became a no-doubter at the same time that the basketball became a no-doubter. Should we do our PGA recap right now? We can do that. I was going to say embrace debate, Big Cat.

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Is the point of summer ball, if you're a hitter, just to track pitches all the time? Because if you don't track pitches, that's a big part that you lose.

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This whole episode is just like fair is fair. Boo. Tell people to lick your balls. Roast pigs. Do it all. It's sports. It's fun.

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Isn't Brandon Walker Canadian? Yeah, let's make him Canadian. I like that.

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The whole World War II theater is just me thinking about ice cream.

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I didn't even know he was in the room. I thought he was on his flight. How long have we been here?

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Before that, also, I was going to say Joe Mixon said this team reminds him of the Bengals team a few years ago. I think it was same record, same spot, young quarterback, beat the Chiefs.

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And the Bengals thing. The Bengals thing got in your head? Joe Mixon, young quarterback, wildcard team. I just hate the Chiefs, too. I don't want the Chiefs. Any other team but the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, I'm fine with. Literally any other team. It does not matter who.

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Yeah, and I just don't – it's not – they're just not – yeah, actually that's – Yeah, that's it.

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No, I'm saying if you stacked them up against the other teams that had similar records over the course of history, they would be the worst one.

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Yeah, but they get the extra game, so it doesn't really matter. In terms of 15 wins.

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We head down to Baltimore, Maryland, where the new-look Ravens defense and Dean Black-Eyed Peas said, Let's get Lamarded. Let's get Lamarded in here. Hey, hey. As he connected with Rashad of Love with Tequila Bateman, and he was very easy to score with. Brussels Sprouts Wilson had another performance that was very hard to digest, and all the kids at home hated it.

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But George W. Bush Pickens is bagged at it again. But the Baltimore offense was committing war crimes with a ground invasion as Derrick Henry Kissinger carpet-bombed the Steelers for another Pittsburgh playoff louse. Ravens 28, the Steelers 14. On to Sunday night.

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Whoever wins that game has to beat the Texans. Yeah, you're right. Or Chiefs. They'll have the whole playoff. Somehow the Chiefs can win that half.

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It was a 50-yarder. 10-10 and he's out of bounds on that fourth and one, like... It's a game. It would have been a completely different game, I feel like.

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We go down to Tampa, Florida, where backwards hat Dan Quingeman Button is looking younger the older he gets. Meanwhile, Todd Bowles was mixing up his left and his right like Hank, trying to understand the political spectrum.

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And Mike, seven minutes in heavens, took Marshawn Latahore into the closet and made out like a bandit, cooking the former Saints quarterback in the first half up and down the field in an early score. but Jaden Danelli was not going to be denied with a band-aid on his face covering a gash so deep Mike Tirico tried to grab it a few cocktails.

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Mi amigo, hola, me da Zaccheaus, hold in some nice recepciones, reminding the audience that it is mechs I can, not mechs I cannot. Baker and the Bucs responded with a field goal drive of their own, leading to insane in the membrane. Gonzalez pulling his hair out as he jogged onto the field, and the goalpost said, Left hand up. Right as the ball bounced off the right, pull it in.

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The Broncos, like you said, the fake punt worked, but they didn't make anything out of it. They missed the field goal to tie it up at halftime. If they got some points there, tied it up at halftime, and then that fourth and one, that was a great play by Josh, but it was inches away from being incomplete. As much as it was a blowout, the Broncos were also very much alive in that game.

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I still don't think they would have won, but I think... A couple plays could have made it closer.

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This is when it's like officially, officially playoffs. That's a game you'll think about all week.

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Every day of this week. Yes. And you know what? I said it. When is Lions... I mean, when is Bills-Ravens starting?

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This is a game... Can you read the... This is crazy, because it was just a very... It was a pretty normal gambling cave clip, I thought.

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It was Tate and Titus after the Jack Sawyer fumble recovery touchdown. They were just celebrating and dry humping the air. Yeah, yeah.

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But it happened in the last, like, maybe year? No. I mean, people were doing the clone shit, like, right away. But that was different. Some people actually thought it was a clone.

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No, that's not it. Chiefs fans are getting mad at me because I tweeted out the ref apologizes to Josh Allen. Hashtag some things. They were saying very mean things.

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Loser talk question of the show. Because you just said they never had the ball down one possession. You said it was nice to watch. Kind of easy game. You tweeted in the middle of the game, we're going to lose this game.

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You can lead with that. Yeah, I want you to be honest. You'll play whoever wins. But gun to my head.

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And they just let Gilly come out with the team. Yeah. Those videos are so funny.

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You guys taught me when the Patriots played the Rams. Yeah. It's not right to root against our friend Jared Goff, so I'm gonna root for the Lions Based off what you guys said to me. You have the commanders.

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jayden daniels he we needed 40 rushing yards from him on that last scramble he also had like 25 in the first quarter yeah on that last scramble play he got the 40 yards that was it last leg and then he took the centering snap kneeled it down so we went from cashing it to losing it all the wls i took it i'm sorry yeah i'm i feel it worse than you do So I was rooting for overtime.

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The only team Hank didn't have a future on was the Chargers. No, no, no. I have $100 on the Commanders from, like, the beginning of the season. When I went on a heater two weeks ago, I have five grand... It's the biggest bet I ever placed on the Eagles. Okay. And then I have, like, some other futures that are, like, bills to win the conference and Eagles to win the conference. But, like...

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The Eagles' future is the biggest bet I think I've ever made. Should we all just declare our... And if they just make it to the fucking Super Bowl, I'm cashing out. I'll say that right now. Should we all declare... Because after I bet it, I hated it.

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I have... Anyone but the Chiefs. What if they play the Chiefs? Will you keep it? Yeah. I don't know. I have said... I hate you so much.

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I also have Celtics, Barcelona, and Eagles future. I'm just going to get that out there. I'm just going to get that on there.

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Yeah. With all the obviously super tragic stuff going on in L.A., do you think it is more Team of Destiny vibes or distraction vibes that's going to affect them negatively?

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He'll never see it coming. That room. It's a great room. That's a great room.

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My who's back of the week are the New England Patriots. Ah, you took mine. Yeah, so it's been a long, long few years. I've learned what it's like to be a loser franchise and not be excited on Sundays and kind of expect losing, and I learned a lot about the draft. You learned a lot about the draft. I wasn't used to that because we were winning and stuff.

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that you can't take the three best players. The players get drafted, then you have to reassess. You have to wait. That was the big lesson I learned last year.

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Yeah, and I know a lot of fans of the show, they always get mad like, oh, you just win, you win, you win, you win, you win. It's so annoying. And it's like now, you know, I've been in the basement. I've dealt with what a lot of people that listen to the show and you guys have dealt with for a long time. But they signed Mike Vrabel. And they're back. They're on the path. The path of glory is back.

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No, I mean, I think that's the beauty of football and sports is, like, memes, you know, can do his little trolling online and say these things on X.com and the Everything app, but, like, we'll see you on the field next year, and we'll see you on the field for the next 20 years. Okay. And we'll let the talking...

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Memes? You're part of the NFL media that highlights this stuff and gaslights it. Okay. So memes, you're not mad. No, it's whatever, man.

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So we were in this together. We suffered through this season together. And it's like if you made it out of the trenches, I'd be happy for you. I would hope that you'd be happy for me. No.

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No. I don't want you out of the trenches. I want you in the trenches. And I want Mike Vrabel to suck. If you're listening to this, Mike Vrabel, I want you to suck.

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He's a system coach. But no, it's been great. Will and Taylor bustling with the boys, guys. They obviously played for him. They had a lot of glowing, glowing things to say about him, what people can expect. Players are going to get called out.

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expected to play at a high standard, and Vrabel expects everyone to meet those standards, and he's going to right this ship and get us back where we need to be.

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That's fine. That's great. I mean, Missoula's the same way. That's championship mentality. That's what he should be. You're about to meet that standard. Whatever he needs, whatever coach, whatever you need, I'm here for you.

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I think both. I mean, I think it's like star athletes. It's like I think anyone that holds them to a higher standard is crazy because there's been a million examples of like athletes being somewhat scumbags and not the most loyal guy. So it's not like shocking. I'll never be shocked when I when you hear stuff like that. It's like, yeah, no shit.

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That's, you know, every a lot of athletes are like that there. It's like Drake did. I know it. It's ugly. It's like LeBron was dancing, and now Drake's outing him, and it's like everyone's getting hurt people hurt people.

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And you're a Drake guy. I'm not a Drake guy or a LeBron guy, so I don't really give a fuck. They can both take each other down for all I care.

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Well, Braun also took that leave of absence like a month ago. That was my, like, that kind of makes that make a little more sense.

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I don't think it's a win, though. It's just like, yeah, I'm a scumbag. I'm friends with a scumbag. Mm-hmm. Is that a win?

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No, I'm saying in the past, though. You're a Texan. There's been some bad AFC South teams in the playoffs.

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Yeah. 2017 Titans, that led to Mike Malarkey's firing. What did they win the division at? 9-7.

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Yeah, it'd be the... 2016 Houston Texans. So, yeah, I wasn't just making shit up.

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And the number one on this list is the 2020 Washington Commanders. Or Washington whatever.

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Why do you think I'm drinking out of a solo cup? I have no glasses. I have no nothing.

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Yeah. Or Jussie. Yeah, for Jussie, but it'll be a revenge game for Aaron Rodgers because of the Aaron Glenn slight to him in that meeting. Oh, yeah.

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He hates Woody Johnson. The build-up to the game will be Aaron Glenn versus Aaron Rodgers.

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I tweeted about it. Yeah, we're just getting the Rockies in the All-Star Game.

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Yes. But I'm in. Somebody said it would be like the GameStop movement, and I've been chasing that high.

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Yeah, that was really good. I'm waiting for the gotcha. Oh, is there a gotcha?

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Listen, I think it'd be impossible to not see the correlation, right? I think in the last five years, the position just continues to ascend. I think obviously from a financial standpoint, I think what I'm learning now is instead of us raising all this money We have all these sponsors paying for all these guys. I feel like these guys should kind of pay us back.

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I mean, we should get like a cut, like an agent fee. Titan U should get an agent fee of every new contract signed post 2021, which is year one of TEU. I feel like you pay your trainer, you pay your agent, you pay your marketing guy, your nutritionist, your chef, all these people that you say help elevate your career, yet we're paying...

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Yeah, Darnold, I mean, do we get a cut of Darnold? He was at TEU last year. Do we get a cut of his check? Right.

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That's like next level Inception. Yeah, I think you got to just continue to pay the machine down the pipeline because without the base, without people like you putting this out there, there is no $19 million contract by George Kittle because there is no TEU. There is no lessons. There is no improvement because no one knows about the event. There's no Bud Light. There's no Dude Wipes.

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Well, I appreciate you guys saying that you guys have been a big supporter of TEU from when it was just a random idea that George threw out there to me when I retired. And then here we are now in year five and we're going to have like 85 guys down in Nashville. And I think what's cool and you guys know this is like part of the appeal of the position is.

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is a lot of the guys, like even though there are a lot of superstars in Kittle and Kelsey and whatnot, they're still just kind of like dudes, right? They're just kind of like regular guys who want to work out. They want to train. They want to go drink a beer, a Bud Light at the bar, and they want to like hang.

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So I think there's like the culture and vibe, like the fraternity component of the position.

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and then to your point like the position continues to be elevated and it continues to you know be talked about more than just the former converted quarterback and the former converted defensive end and the the slow white guy used to play receiver and now he can only play tight end like 20 years ago that was a lot of the position not all of them but Those days are over.

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Like guys are now spending their entire lives training to be professional tight ends. And when I was coming up the ranks of a high school college kid, that wasn't the case.

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yeah so we have to be careful we can't have current coaches so it's the dead period of the NFL so there are some rules the NFL stipulates like coaches can't be in contact on the field with their players and whatnot so it gets a little dicey like we do it out of college because we couldn't do it at the Titans facility we couldn't do it in Chicago at the Bears facility so we got to find another really cool venue we'll see if there's any of those so like we couldn't do it at stuff like that but

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we run it you know and and i don't do any of the drills um you know i try to keep us on track they kind of joke with me and they call me dad because i'm the one like yelling at kittle and george and uh travis like we need you back here we got this drill you're running this station and you know so we're trying to keep the trains on the track but um you know we just kind of do it ourselves we've been to a lot of practices we've been to a lot of meetings uh we know what we're trying to get accomplished and then

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In real time, we do the best that we can to stay on track, and sometimes we kind of go haywire and just improvise. But, yeah, we don't have any coaches. We do it all. It's tight ends teaching tight ends. And when Kelsey's demonstrating a drill with Kittle, there's two undrafted guys that have never stepped foot on an NFL field that's dreams are just to make a roster.

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They're the next guy in line right behind them. So, like, that's a really cool kind of –

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synergy that goes on is they're all for these three days everyone's kind of the same and everyone's working towards what's that next step on the ladder and it's very different for every guy i really should get involved at some point yeah i i don't like that they call you dad uh you just turned 40 we just turned 40 how does 40 feel for you any kidney stones i mean our bodies are breaking down can we talk yeah why are you getting so many kidney stones i think it's just being a man yeah like do you drink enough water

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I would say it's a mixed bag. I would say, you know, guys like us that have been through what we've been through, I think we're feeling similar things. Um, you know, there's some days where I wake up and I feel great. And there's some days where I wake up and I can't stand up because my back is in a full spasm.

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And literally the day before, all I did was like walk around the house and walk up the stairs. I didn't do anything overly active. So I haven't quite figured out like why some days are better than others. I have made like a conscious effort. I'm not perfect, but like Monday through Friday, uh,

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like i can't go to the men's grill at the club every day and meet my buddies for lunch after golf and like have two beers because that's 10. so like i try not to have any beers during the week um i try not to eat so i try to make like subtle things but i wouldn't say i'm in fighting shape i wouldn't say i'm in terrible shape i'm probably 10 pounds overweight of where i need to be same yeah um

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So I could probably lose 10. I could probably be a little bit more active. I'm terrified of rupturing my Achilles. It's my greatest fear in my life. And you know, what's weird is like, that's one of those things, like you got to like build back up your lower body strength and your ability to like jump and run and do all that.

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But it's like a slow build, but I'm so terrified of even starting that journey because I don't want to tear my Achilles trying to prep my Achilles for more workouts that I just do nothing. Right. I can't even get started. So I would say that's my, that's a big fear I have of not like playing men's league basketball or, back to playing tennis and stuff like that.

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And then you play the whole game scared you're going to pop your Achilles. Yeah. That's what I go through.

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Exactly. And I know like 10 guys around town that have popped their Achilles. And then I try to like rationalize with myself, like I'm in better shape than them. Like I've done more. But then I also am like, but I've done a lot more like my bodies. So like I kind of talk myself in circles.

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So then I end up like driving a golf cart to play nine holes and then go sit in a men's grill and have a burger and a Arnold Palmer iced tea. And like, I didn't have a beer. So that was a good day.

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I can't. And it's not physically that I can't. My ADD and attention span is so bad. I'll be like, all right, I'm going to go walk on the treadmill for 20 minutes on an incline. I have like a little weighted vest and I'll get a good sweat. I'll be walking, I'll have a podcast in or a mute, you know, whatever, listen to music, whatever. And I'll look down.

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I'm like, that had to be like six or seven minutes. I'm at like 45 seconds. I'm like, I can't do this. Like I can't, I turn it off and I go sit in the sauna and I'm like, I walked out with a great sweat.

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Yeah. My heart rate was elevated. I didn't pop my Achilles. I got a good sweat. I'll shower and I'll chalk that as a win. But us 40-year-olds, we all kind of get it.

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Well, I appreciate the comment. I appreciate the compliment. It means a lot. Yeah. And I've been very adamant about where I stand and I'm also, and again, it doesn't always come through with headlines. I don't know if you guys are familiar with that, but like sometimes the headlines don't always match the story. It's something new that people are doing. You guys should try it.

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But I say all of that, like I always make sure I'm very clear where my personal aspirations to, you know, continue to ascend in this industry and to get back to calling those games are are completely independent of like, Tom and I, like, we've hung out personally, like we've we talk on the phone, we keep in touch.

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He sent a cool video for my youth football team as I go warm up to the season, like, go kick their ass thing. Like, we talked about raising teenage daughters, we've got to play golf together, we hung out down in the Bahamas at a little retreat, like, we've gotten to be very good friends and a very personal level. Since he's joined Fox, like,

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Me and him have been in the same room a lot together and hung out together in groups. So there's this idea that there's this personal animosity and competition. There is not. My relationship with Tom and Fox and Joe Davis and Burkhart and all my people at Fox couldn't be better. On the other parallel line to that, yes, I want to ascend in the industry.

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I'm sure Joe Davis wants to call Super Bowls as well. It doesn't mean he doesn't like Burkhart and so on and so forth. I think any motivated guy, you want to be the best at what you do. That is not a knock on the people that are ahead of you currently. That's just how I've always been wired. I appreciate you saying that. I would love to talk ball. I'd love to talk Bears.

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I think the Bears are super fun. I'm selfishly hoping the bears are really good. Not because we root for teams, but because sometimes it's fun to root for a city. Like I, we didn't call any bears games last year, right? Like our crew, we should be calling noon kickoffs in Chicago, especially in that division. all year long. That should be a no-brainer, early window Fox game.

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Bears-Lions, Bears-Vikings, Bears-Pac. We should be calling all those Bears games. I didn't call one Bears game last year. We need Chicago to be good.

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Yeah, so I mean, Ben Johnson was the guy for that job. And I know there was a lot of speculation about it was going to go a couple directions and was Ben Johnson going to end up in Vegas with the Raiders and there was a lot of rumor and speculation. From the jump, Everything Chicago has done the last couple of years, and it hasn't all been perfect and it hasn't all been right.

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But the pieces they had, the environment in which Ben Johnson was walking into, I thought Chicago had the most built in wins based on their current. So like I always judge coaching jobs, guys, by like, all right, if just someone that knows what they're doing takes over and it's an offensive guy because the offense stinks or defensive guy, whatever.

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Someone just gets the current group of guys organized and brings out the best in all of them. I'm not even saying we bring in a million new players. How many wins are there just built into that roster? I thought Chicago had the biggest spread. I thought just the development of Caleb Williams, Roma Dunzey and DJ Moore. They had Cole commit. Now they draft Loveland.

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they continue to invest in the offensive line although that still could get better like all of a sudden now with ben johnson pulling the strings like that's a real offense they've made serious investment into the defensive side of the ball free agents drafts over the last couple years like i'm not saying they're going to be the best defense in league but that balance of offense and defense with ben johnson and his system put in place there's three or four wins built into that roster

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like that. Yeah. So I, I, I, that's how I view it. And now a lot of other things, health injury, acquisition of new talent, there's a lot going on, but Ben Johnson to me was the bell of the ball. He was the coach that everyone wanted for multiple years. He was very picky.

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It tells me that he thinks the bears are the same thing because he had the opportunity to take a lot of jobs over the last couple of years and he took Chicago and that wasn't an accident.

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Oh, yeah, Washington. Yeah, yeah. Oh, Dan, I'm sorry. I thought you said Dan Campbell. I'm sorry.

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Oh, no, DQ. No, DQ. Oh, that's the perfect example. And I would, yes, Washington's roster compared to last year, compared to the Bears' roster this year, I agree. At least on paper, the Bears' roster is significantly, maybe not significantly, is better, but you can't put what Jane Daniels did. Like, it's... I don't know if we could expect anyone.

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If Caleb Williams is Jane Daniels, then the Bears are going to, you know, they're as good as anybody. So, like, that's the caveat to all that. Like, for that roster, and Dan Quinn was awesome, and Kingsbury was awesome.

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Yeah, I would have said Brock. Yeah, that would have been cheating. Yeah, that's a tough caveat. That's a good question. Good question. I like Laporta. I like Laporta. I think Laporta's really good. I think what's cool about Laporta is that He's not like he's not Brock Bowers.

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He's not, you know, the Kelsey where he's like so flashy and you put on the tape and you're like, holy shit, this guy's so fast. Oh, my God, this guy runs the best routes. Oh, my God, this guy is dumping people in the run game on his back. Which maybe is why I appreciate it, because that was never me either. But every time you watch Laporta do something, you're like, he's really good at that.

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He's really good at that. He's really good at everything, hence why he plays in that system and why Ben Johnson was able to do what they did with him. And he never has to come off the field because he's not a liability in the pass game. I mean, he's not a liability in the run game. He's not a liability when they ask him a couple times a game to pass pro. He can win on third downs.

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He can win on all the play action stuff where they kind of script him open offensively. He can do all of it good enough that he can stay on the field the whole time. And that's where you really see the value of these guys because they don't come off. So their volume of opportunity goes up. So I really like Laporta.

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I think we have a great young generation of guys coming up behind the Kittles and the Kelsey's of the world that, I think the position of tight end is as strong, if not stronger, than it's been maybe ever.

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Man, I remember the first time I watched him play, and you saw a 6'5 white guy playing in the SEC playing. running through the secondary and nobody was catching him. Like that is just unique to be that tall, that long, super linear in that conference. And you look like the fastest guy on the field.

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And I think he was only maybe a freshman or maybe a redshirt freshman, whatever it was, he was young. And I remember thinking to myself, if he was able to come out of the draft after his second year, you didn't have to stay for his third year. If he was able to leave as a sophomore, a registered freshman, whatever it was, he would have been a top 10 pick. He was that good. good.

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You're going to make an argument, him and Marvin Harrison Jr. were the best two, two of the best prospects in the draft. And they, neither one of them could come out two years ago. So like, or three years ago, whatever it was. So he's uniquely talented. I think he went into an interesting situation where even though the team wasn't very good,

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there is like a volume of opportunity chances when you're playing on a team that is is losing where you're throwing the ball for four quarters because you're always playing catch up there's so many opportunities in the passing game you might not have a lot of other weapons so they're going to design design the system to go through you i'll be interested to see how that plays out now

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with the new regime and Pete Carroll and Gino loves his tight ends but like they're gonna run the ball they are gonna be under center two back like it's gonna be a little bit of a different aspect than what he was used to last year but as Fiora is just a talent I've said I think he's the best tight end prospect to come out of the draft in the last 10 years 10-15 years like

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And his rookie year matched it, if not exceeded it, which was pretty incredible.

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Yeah. So by wiggle, you're talking like weaving, getting it out of your brain, a little shake, a little shimmy?

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Yeah, so like, and no, you're right, and that's why, you know, the top, top guys over the last couple years, you know, the last, call it 10 years, they're, they're unique. And now we're seeing more and more of the body types that can handle both the run game stuff and be effective in the passing game stuff.

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We're seeing more and more of the six, four, six, five guy who in years past was a quarterback, a defensive end, a basketball player who now, instead of just joining tight end late into the game and being like a project, we're seeing them now they've played their entire life at the position. So they're just so much more advanced than maybe they were in years past and

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i think to your point though there is a little bit of a fine line unless you're just your kiddle yeah right where you're so strong in the run game and you can hold your own but you're only 200 250 pounds, maybe soaking wet. He's probably closer to the high 240s, which is not very big. When I came into the league, if you weren't 260, 265, you were looked at as a little tight end.

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Nowadays, a lot of these guys are in the 40s and they're just so strong in their technique and their toughness. They can get by hanging in the run game. There's a willingness and a want to, but to, you know, you always say like a guy's light in the ass.

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Like there's some guys that are a little light in the ass where they can get in and out of breaks and they're super fluid and they can run those choice routes and those option routes and they can sink their hips and they can drop their weight. And that allows them to get in and out like a, like more of like an Edelman and a slot receiver type guy. It's hard to do that at six, five, right? Right.

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Your center of gravity is so much higher. Your legs are longer. You're a lot, you're more like linear built. And that's why what Kelsey does again, we're talking about historically great players is so unique because he is six, five, but can drop and can sink his hip. So it's hard to find those guys, but yeah, you can be too light in the ass, which means like you just got no anchor.

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Like you can't just stick your hips into the ground and hold your, you might not drive the guy back, but you're going to hold your ground and at least tie, um, those guys are going to be the guys that are only in the game on passing downs. And they're not going to be three down guys because you have to at least be able to be competitive.

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If I'm going to play you in first and second down nowadays, I can't only have you in the game to run routes. Like, It's virtually impossible to play that style in most NFL offenses. There's a few, but in most of them you can't.

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Yeah. I think what number you wear is critical because I think sometimes like trick, like fake it till you make it. Yeah. So I think oftentimes if you're a slight guy, getting a boxier 88 is a great example. I wish I would have thought of that. I would have gone a little more slimming.

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But a little bit more boxy, it makes at least everyone think, all right, this guy can sink his hips and he can strike and he can hold his ground. And then maybe you're a little heavier, a little later in your career, maybe you can slim down number-wise. I think that's smart. We might build that in.

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in, um, um, cool runnings, right? When the guy's like, look in the mirror and tell me what you see. Like he's like, he's talking himself in to go fight the guy in the bar. I see pride. I see power. Like it's kind of the same idea. Like I see an eight and an eight, I'm a damn tight end and I'm going to go fucking hit you in the face.

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Who's the best number zero in the NFL right now? I know Brian Burns wears number zero. I think Miles Sanders for the Panthers, does he wear number zero? Or somebody on the Panthers. I know the Panthers have a zero. I'm so bad at numbers. Yeah, so am I. I mean, I'm making this up as I go. I'm just trying to think. Like, I don't. My first gut reaction to number zero is I hate it.

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That's what comes with it. You can't just be like a guy. You can't just be like, oh yeah, he's a good player. I think to wear a number like that, you need to be like, I'm just the baddest dude on the block and there's nothing you can do about it. Like Justin Jefferson.

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Roquan Smith will put his face, yeah, Roquan will put his head through your skull. So that's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. It's tough though. There's numbers. It's amazing how certain numbers you just assume. Like when I think of 44, I'm thinking of like, a fullback linebacker, neck roll, and he's putting his helmet through your chin, but he runs 4'9".

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yeah that's a great i think you're i think he's the perfect candidate like every time you see a i think about when i see his game like immediately i'm like wide receiver no that's pits like yeah it doesn't click all of it automatically because the single digit like you just think receiver it's not necessarily about pits as much as it is but then like body type wise he's long he's lean yep like

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Yeah. If he walked out next year as 87, 84 in college, you were 84 in college. Perfect. Yeah. Smart. That's all right.

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You know, we always joke about like, we always be like role play. We're like, all right, let's go back to the conversation. Luke Keekly gets drafted. He was number 40 at Boston college, top 10 pick hall of fame, you know, hall of fame guy. Hopefully next year. When the Panthers were like, all right, here are your options. You could be number 59. He's like, yeah, sure. I'll be number 59. Right.

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And that feels like we always tell them, like, Luke, that feels like one of those numbers. Like, you know, when you see Bill Belichick's team and like they all get random numbers until they earn it. You know, it felt like that was like his rookie minicamp number. And he was just like such a nice guy that he was just like, I'll never change it. And he made 59 like a badass number. Yeah.

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Yeah. He looks great. He is shred. Dude, you talk about a guy who's taken the opposite approach of ours? Yeah. That dude lifts heavy. He runs. He just walked rim to rim on the Grand Canyon. He did a half triathlon or half Ironman. Mm-hmm.

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Yeah. Every time I think of grade, I think like sixth grade, seventh grade, eighth grade, I have teenage kids. So like, all I think about is like, what grade are they in? And everyone's always like, they're a rising eighth grader. I'm like, what does that mean?

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You're right. So that's on me. Poor job processing. We don't, we don't do report cards. We do give like a, we give an award out. Uh, last year, I'm trying to remember who we gave. We gave like this sick, I want to say like a, like maybe a Levi's jacket. Uh, we gave out like some sick, like custom jacket of some sort.

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Um, to like the guy we thought like embodied everything that is to you, but no, we don't give out grades. We have toyed with the idea of giving out like a, instead of like the Maxwell award or the Heisman trophy or the Davey O'Brien, like all these Nagurski, like all these awards that are given out by these, like, right. like the TEU award. And like, we recognize the best NFL tight end every year.

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And like every year it's presented at our event. We've toyed with doing that. We haven't gotten it off the ground, by the way, trophies. If you ever want to make like a part of my take trophy, they're very expensive.

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Well, yeah. I mean, I don't hate that. You know who we thought would have been like a cool to honor, but we were very surprised. So obviously Dwight Clark passed away, unfortunately, and had a tough battle. And I always recognize, you know, made one of the most iconic catches from Joe Montana and NFL history with the catch. I always thought Dwight Clark was a tight end, but he's not. Yeah.

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Dwight Clark is on the right. All my life. I always thought Dwight Clark was a tight end. So unfortunately we thought that'd be like a great, this was a couple of years ago shortly after he passed. And we were like, what a great way to honor him. He could be like the name that we continue his legacy and whatnot. And then people like he's actually a wide receiver.

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Do we need to sign anything? I haven't signed anything either, but we do own a football team. I believe they're undefeated, the Monterosos. Fuck yes. They're undefeated. They're... merchandise gear is off the charts. Their logo's sick. Ryan Khalil, who's a really good buddy of mine, Ryan Khalil and Blake Griffin, they own a production company out in LA called Mortal Media.

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They spearheaded the operation and then they sent out a group text and everyone was like, sure, I'll do it. So yes, me, you, Kittle, McCaffrey, Ron Rivera, Blake, Ryan. So yes, the answer to that question is yes. Every time Ryan's like, I'm like, yeah, I'm in, I'm in. I don't know how much I'm in for. I don't know what that means, but yes, whatever you need, I'm in.

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I'm trying to set up a time to go to Monterey and do some stuff with their coaches. Yeah. And, but the answer to your question is yes. I don't know exactly.

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So we're in. No, we're in. It's going to be sick, dude. I little did I know. And Khalil's worked his ass off on this, but like his, the history of football in Mexico is actually pretty amazing. And like the stories of these guys, like the coaches and the players and what they do and where they like, it isn't actually like real.

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So there's going to be like a whole like mini series doc based around this team and the ownership group and the Ascension of the program. Like, it's going to be, it's going to be a pretty cool kind of behind the scenes look. And especially as the NFL and football continues to just get more and more global and reach more and more beyond America. Um, I think it's going to be a blast. Yeah.

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Well, I'd say if he's six and he hasn't picked his sport of the future yet, he's behind.

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No, you only do youth sports if the goal is to go pro. Yeah. So you need to change your entire mindset and get out of like, it's about the experience and it's about the kids and the development and all that. And you need to get on the page with the rest of the world. So that's your first mistake. Yep. To your real question, all seriousness, coaching your kid is a mixed bag.

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I was coached by my dad in high school. It's all I ever knew. He coached me and my two brothers. We all went and played collegiately. It worked for us. He was really hard on us. He pushed. He did it for 40 years. It's all I knew. It's the only reason I ever made it. I learned more at a young age than anybody else I was competing against because I was just around it.

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And I had incredible coaching from the time I was two years old. I coach a season of each of my kids. So I have a 13, almost 14 year old son who I coach his football team at school. So we do middle school football. It's all summer long. It's real, like it's real football. I do him in the fall. My daughter, I coached her basketball team the last couple of years.

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She's in sixth grade, rising seventh grade in case anyone thought she was skipping grades, I guess. And then her twin brother, my younger son, I coach his team in the spring. So I do a season with each kid

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and i will say i love it i love spending the time with my kid i love giving back to the other kids so i spend as much time as anybody doing it there are going to be moments where you think this isn't worth it right i'm arguing with my kid he doesn't want to listen to me he only wants to do what other people said i almost feel like he's doing the opposite like that is all going to be very normal and you're going to have to manage all of those emotions

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it's going to be very hard for you to sit at a sideline and watch the vast majority of what's going on in youth sports and not get involved.

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This is a hundred percent. And you're going to feel that as he gets older, it's going to go less like, Oh, this is so cute that they're shooting at the wrong basket. And then you're going to be like, okay, now like they're old enough now to know, like, here's our basket. Like, why are we not coaching them? Why are we not like, I lose my mind sometimes.

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Now I will say I've been lucky that in some of the seasons, my kids have been coached by really good people where I can now just be dad. And like, I'm thinking in my head, what would I do? And I'm like, they're doing a great job. I entrust you to coach my kids.

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So if you can find that great, if you don't have that, you're going to find yourself moving from the bleachers to the end of the bench, to the second of the bench, to the head coach, um, very quickly. Cause if not, if you're like me, you're going to just lose your shit.

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Like you're just going to lose your mind and be like, if I'm going to waste all this time all week, at least my kid's going to know the basics and we just got to teach them.

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Do you teach closeouts? I mean, yeah. Be like, Hey, can we teach the closeout with the proper hand and force me to the help side? If you were coaching that for the six year olds, I wouldn't be draining threes in your face.

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Yeah, it's like one of those, if you can survive this, you can survive anything kind of thing.

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My immediate brain is like, okay, I'll do it. And I just get really good at dodging stupid questions. You look at it as if you have to do it, you got to fire your marketing.

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Yeah. Now, I'm going to give you guys a compliment. Oh. And since you've given us so much compliment, T.E.U., presented by Bud Light, I'm sorry, 15. It's going to kind of be more Dan, but it's more generally speaking. My wife, I consider to be like a coffee snob slash aficionado. She bought some of the Stella Blue, and it got rave reviews. Let's go. And it's saving dogs.

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And she's a dog person, so... All in all, it reminded me when I see it behind you there next to Dicka. So you gave us a lot of compliments on TEU presented by Bud Light, New Era, Jersey Mike's, and Dude Wipes. Thank you to our partners. I'm going to now kick it back to you that a very, very particular coffee consumer To support you and Stella Blue, what gave rave reviews.

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And now I'll pay it full circle. And now I'll give you guys an offer for free. So, yes, PFT, appreciate you being the guy you are to me. Now I'm going to kick it back to you. Free advice. We use this for our heart charity. We guilt people. We guilt people all the time. Be like, hey, we'd love you to support The Heart is Jarred, but don't only do it if you like supporting kids with bad hearts. Yeah.

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Unless you just want these kids with bad hearts to continue to die and continue to not have great, great medicine, then we're not the group for you. But if you're into helping kids with bad hearts like my son, then we'd love you to encourage. You could flip it and be like, hey, only drink. If you hate dogs and you want to see them killed, Stella Blue is not for you.

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But if you happen to have a heart. and you like dogs, maybe consider us. It works, so that's my free marketing to you.

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It basically means he's so good that his peers hate him for how good he is.

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I want to see if memes thought it was a double dribble because that's true saltiness.

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It was not a double dribble, but I saw a lot of people being like, how do they not call it?

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Memes. I'll tell you from experience. You can't blow game two. Win game two, you're fine.

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You just can't blow another big leading game, too, because then... And it's a pattern. Yeah.

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Brogdon, Malcolm Brogdon, who won sixth man of the year. At the time, you know, it was a good trade.

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No, I mean, you know, it's been four years since that trade. But, yeah, he's a great player. Great draft pick.

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Bullshit that they announced it when the two MVPs were in the playoff series prior.

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He also undersold, like, when that happened, I remember PFT being like, hey, like, Jim Morris said he's sending me something. Like, let's film it just in case. It's probably nothing.

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People talk about the Tatum injury. It's like, yeah, we had a healthy Tatum. We were down nine with three minutes left. Whatever. We're not talking about that.

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That's the Pacers thing. Yeah, and we did it to the Pacers last year. Whatever. We moved on. Brock, Brock, whatever. Do you know his name?

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And the Celtics is like, you know, it's a family family team and he's like on the like not allowed in.

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Yeah. Why? Because he was leading the charge against getting rid of Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum a couple years ago. He was doing his job as a journalist.

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The Thunder are still playing, so the Thunder are stacked. Yeah. Top to bottom. Top to bottom.

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They did a good job with the numbers, too. I don't know why PFT got 35, but I got double zero.

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We did a Stinky Cloud on the case race a couple years ago. Oh, yeah? I wanted to die. It was like Zaz pubes. Yeah, it was so bad. And like a smoke bomb. Bird hairs. And like, yeah, that was as bad as it's ever been. That's pretty bad, yeah. Anything when you're hungover.

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New York City when you're hungover is tough. Oh, the street? In the summer?

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Oh, I think I'm going to puke. I mean, it was quick, but I was like, oh, it's just BL, and then it has some... It's BL+.

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23 million views and every, you know, cause you tagged me in it. I was just, every single person was just like.

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duh duh or no obviously not obviously not obviously not how dumb are you how dumb are you i mean i posted like i said on the show because i thought you know obviously i should have known this but i posted on my instagram story without context and then people get people are getting mad about what about the anaconda oh yeah i got i had friends that texted me screenshots of the anaconda that they saw independently and they're like this is not the picture that hank thought was real right i was like max two

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Yeah, dude. Big ass anaconda. You don't know what's going on down there. It's like 200 feet long. I was scared. I was like, fuck. At least that one, I was like, this can't be real and did some research. But yeah. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't really a fire fest. It was fun. But I took oldie to hot yoga yesterday.

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Did you shower this morning? He showered at the hot yoga. He said he showered four times since then.

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Well, it was, like, the hardest class of all time. I thought we lost Oldie a couple times. I thought I was going to die as well. And Oldie's flexible. Well, that's what he was doing, splits at the office, and he was, like, hanging out right before we left. And we were like, you want to come? He's like, yeah. I used to do it all the time. And then... I mean, it was very funny having him there.

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He was walking up to all the instructors after being like, thank you for the practice. Thank you for the practice. And then to one of them, he was like, I haven't done this in seven years. Oh, wow. Because I thought he was like... I thought when you said like, oh, you know, I do it all the time. I was like, oh, yeah, it fit right in.

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It was a hard class, but it was like... It was me, Chef Donnie, and Oldie, and when the class ended, there was like the Nile River of sweat between the three of us. It was disgusting. So, yeah, maybe. I don't know how that unlocks whatever that smell is.

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Yeah. It was funny, but I looked over a couple times, and I thought Oldie was down for the count.

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No, I knew I was dumb, but it was the 23 million views and the amount of people responding about how dumb it was to think it was real just made me feel a little bit worse.

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And the noises. And it was the whale thank you. Yeah, the thank you. I was like, you know, as a whale advocate, I was like, yes.

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When you finish, like, are you, like, you know, touchdown score? Oh, it cleans, like, beautiful.

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That's why. But aren't they going to learn how to use it? Yeah, they're going to learn how to use it.

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I know. You guys know me. I know me. And I know I'm being resistant. And I know. But once I start, once I enjoy a cone, I'm eating like 20 cones a week. Yeah. That's bad. Right.

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Oh, my God. Um... Over high. I be loving all the girls.

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Who? Donnie? Laina?

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

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I love the way you make me feel.

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Or your child just may not be that great at math. There might not even be anything wrong with them.

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I am in the Christmas spirit this year, but no, I didn't decorate. I just have a wreath on my door because I didn't have time to put up my Christmas tree because I've been moving.

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Yeah, yeah. But it's like if you need a little help with your extracurriculars, let me know. We can get a tutor. But if your ass is just cutting up at school, like going to detention every day, you're getting one gift.

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Be good.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I like when men pay attention to detail. Yeah. Like, I like... If I said something or I mentioned something and then you pop up and you do it. Like, acts of service is, like, a big thing to me, too. Like, I would love for my men to, like, if I'm, like, if we have a house together and I'm, like, oh, I need some new shelves in my closet or some new shelves in my office or whatever. Yeah.

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And then say I leave for a few days for work to go do something and I come back and then the shelves are up.

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Don't get me wrong. I do be liking expensive stuff, too. But it doesn't always have to be that. Like, that's the type of stuff that turn women on. And, like, let them know, too, that you be paying attention to what I be saying.

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Like, I always put my Christmas tree up. So I'm kind of sad about it. But I just don't see a point because I'm going home this year for Christmas and then I just got settled into my place and I'm literally leaving.

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You gotta work through the tough part. That's what a relationship is.

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Well, I didn't think you would have wanted it, because I didn't think it was going to match with your outfit.

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You can't play with that er when you trying to put that silk on. You got to, I don't know what you need to do. Because I'm a person, I actually do like to, I prefer to put my oil on after.

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I'm not even going to get to enjoy it because by the time I come back, It'll be like a few days before New Year's.

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Our heads too big for these hats, y'all.

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We mixed it up with some fun ingredients today. We included your spirit of choice, so whether that's tequila or vodka. We used some hypnotic. I know y'all ain't heard that in a minute, but it's like another liqueur. We used some hypnotic, some pineapple, and some lime juice.

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Is this that jingle juice?

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Yeah, this that jingle juice. That jingle juice.

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you need to get with Kickoff because at the end of the day, all you got to do is make on-time payments and boom, a boost in your credit score.

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This show is sponsored by BetterHelp.

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Yes, and BetterHelp is so easily accessible.

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Yeah, it's porous. So, like, I had these. At first, I was going to garnish it this way, like on a skewer.

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Like me and my mom and my dad would always take the tree down like after New Year's.

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Right. So, I just be taking like the Azo cranberry peels because I just cannot... I love cranberry.

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And you know, that has so much sugar and preservatives and all that stuff in it.

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Mm-hmm.

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Like, you can drink all the cranberry juice that you want to drink, but your ass still needs to drink at least half your body weight in water a day.

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I'm going to send you a link, too.

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I mean, any water company, to be honest, because I love water. I'm a water drinker.

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I feel like girls who really work out for real is Stanley Cup girls because at the end of the day, you got to be able to put your supplements in a cup.

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No, no. It's not that serious to me.

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I just... I have, like, a love-hate type of, like, feeling towards that. Like, I feel like you should be able to be yourself, and it should be okay. Like, I feel like Rihanna... Yeah, okay, maybe she was doing interviews and she used to say crazy stuff and we all know she used to spaz on people on Twitter and stuff. But at the end of the day, people had her fucked up.

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And she should be able to say what she want to say. No, but you can because she's a billionaire.

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I mean, yeah, but I truly also just feel like maybe that's just me being a faith-based person. Nobody can cancel me. Whatever is for me is for me. Whatever God says for me, if I'm supposed to be on a path to do great things and I'm supposed to get these opportunities, it's going to happen either way. Nobody can stop anything for me.

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I feel like, of course, it's certain shit that you should just have enough common sense to not get online and say. Like, we'll never speak ill about the LGBTQ plus community. We'll never speak... I'm serious. I mean, we... But we wouldn't.

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And we wouldn't because, like, we would never... talk shit about people who are in lower income brackets. It's just certain things. We'll never talk shit about people who are obese. You know what I mean? It's just certain things we should just know not to speak on. Right. as humans, as people with common sense. Right.

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But I should still be able to say things that I want to say and I should still be able to clap back at a motherfucker that got me fucked up and not get canceled for it. But you can't. No, but you can. It's just up to you if you care that much. You know what I mean? I think some people really care about stuff like that, and I think some people don't.

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who want to support me to be people who like me and who fuck with me and who fuck with who I am. I don't want to have to conform myself or make myself fit a certain standard or fit in a certain bracket for you to like me and support me. If you don't want to support me, don't support me.

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I think people do need to be media trained, but I think that one of the great things about social media, which I actually think has made a lot of celebrities even more popular and make even more money, is the fact that they're more accessible.

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We're never going back to those times. So it's like this is what shit is now and it's probably only going to get worse. It's probably only going to get more invasive and stuff in the future. You know, you're going to be able to be in people business even more. Like I don't see it going backwards. It's not. So it's just kind of like.

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I think we have to let go to a certain extent of these old ideologies that we had of, like, Whitney Houston and stuff. It was the fucking 80s. Nobody even had a cell phone.

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Yeah, I love that, too. I love people who are, like, super creative. Yeah. Like, I think I'm a creative person, but I just don't be wanting to execute. I'd rather hire. Okay.

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Like, I hate, I literally hate to a certain extent that people be wanting to silence people. Like, let people say what the fuck they got to say. This the same shit y'all hoes and y'all niggas be talking about at home. Y'all be having the same conversations in private, but y'all be mad when a celebrity say something publicly. Now y'all want to cancel somebody. Yeah.

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I just think it's bullshit.

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I feel like I think I do still say stuff that I know is going to ruin people the wrong way because it's just my opinion. Bitch, that's my opinion. But I do tread a little more lightly these days than I feel like I used to when we were younger because I just wasn't even thinking about stuff as deeply. You know what I mean?

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It's like, okay, if this is how I feel, if this is what I think, I'm going to just say it.

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We're going to figure it out. Get your product, get your business sponsored, and yeah, make you some money.

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And a black business at that. But I mean, any business is welcome.

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Any business is welcome. Should you clock your NTT by asking you about your love life? Because, girl, why are you worried about my love life? You ain't been married since 1973. Now, see?

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Where's your man? What we just said, focus on you. Focus, focus. I don't know about y'all, but personally, I hate when my family asks me questions about my love life or about when I'm going to have a kid, any of that. Because at the end of the day, just because you had a baby at 19, that don't mean I want to do that. Clearly, I didn't because I'm far from 19. So why are you asking me?

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She thought it was a Christmas card. Bitch, goodbye.

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No, seriously, though, like, I felt, but I felt that lyric, though, I did, because at the end of the day, sometimes it don't matter who the fuck it is, you gotta cut their ass off.

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Yes, so we have a brand new show dropping, y'all, on Patreon. It's going to air on September 2nd, and it's called Poor Chronicles. We're going to be doing so much stuff on there. We're going to be doing challenges.

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We're going to be doing talk to me, chit chat with me. We're going to be spilling a little tea. Oh, my God. No, you didn't.

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But see, to me, end of January, that's a little OD to have your Christmas tree still up. You don't think so?

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sometimes you definitely just need to, like, cut people off. You need to not talk to people. You have to set boundaries with people. Why you all up in my business? And a lot of the time, the thing about the older generations in our family, I'ma just say it and I'ma just put it all on the floor. They should do not be together. Mm. They been married to Uncle Larry for 50 years.

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But all people be having some crazy-ass names, though, like Leotis. Like I said earlier, Leroy, Cleotis, Clifford.

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My family don't be asking to give me advice. They just be trying to see what's going on. They don't be trying to give me advice. They just be like, so, who are you dating? Are you dating anyone? Well, you know, the clock is ticking. Are you thinking about having a kid yet? Like, it be that type of conversation. That ain't being concerned about me. Bitch, you're being nosy. You in my business.

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And I also feel like even when you asking, like, I get where you coming from, but I also feel like even when you asking, advice don't need to be given unless somebody asks for advice. But I...

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I don't really like unsolicited advice. Even when I was 21, 22 years old.

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We literally just did that dance a few weeks ago.

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If you come and ask me and you have questions about your man or you have questions about anything that's going on in your life, questions about how to navigate, what you should be doing, where you should be going, how you should be investing your money. If you want to come and ask me, then cool. But I'm not just going to walk up to you and be like, girl, so what's going on in your love life?

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Like, who you dating? Yeah.

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What you be doing with your money? How you be investing your money? Do you be saving? How much money? Because even my uncles and stuff done asked me stuff like that when I was younger. Like, invasive. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But I think that, and I know that it comes from a place of love, but I guess the point that I'm getting at is I just feel like a lot of the time, the older generations in our family, I feel like it comes from a loving place, but it's just very invasive. And it's not, and the way that it's... put out, maybe it's not how you want it to come off.

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But that's how you putting it out. And now I'm like, I don't want to talk to you about this.

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Okay.

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in having conversations with me so I would rather you come to me like know that whatever you want to talk about I'm here for you I'm a little older than you if you got questions you want to talk to somebody who you feel to have a little bit more life experience I'm here we could discuss it but I'm never going to like just be overly abrasive and in your business if you don't want me in it right

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I don't know. I think I just always been the type of person, I will tell, I'm going to tell people what I would do. But I'm not necessarily going to tell you what to do. Right. Just because we different.

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Like everybody is like navigating life and life is all about choices. Like some people are going to make certain decisions that will end up putting them in a better position. Some people are going to make certain decisions that are going to end up putting them in a fucked up position. It's really all about choices and it's no right or wrong choice.

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Nobody got it all the way completely figured out because it's no right or wrong way to do this shit.

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And I was going to take a leap of faith and be like, you know what? I'm going to try something else. OK, this didn't work. Let me try this. Let me try this. If we're really being honest, that's not conducive to being successful. That's not the habits of a successful person at a younger age, if we're being honest. but it worked for me.

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I knew it was going to be a good show because we're funny on camera. We have great banter. We have great chemistry, whatever. But, like, the opportunities that we are getting, the things that we're doing, when I was, like, 26 and I decided, 25, my bad, because I moved here when I was 25.

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so it's like I just don't be liking to like tell people what to do based off of my experiences because it's not no right or wrong way to do this shit because by other people's standards and what people were advising me to do if I would have listened to them I wouldn't be here because so many people advise me you need to go back to you need to go back to working your corporate job this doesn't make any sense you're not going to be successful doing this but I kept doing it I think my thing is

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I'm looking for a beach to suck this almond juice.

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If she got to stop sucking because of John's foot. Ty!

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And it's going to help you build your brand.

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So should you get your situationship a gift for Christmas? Yes. You know, yeah. Yeah? Yes. I'm a person, I don't give a fuck if we met yesterday.

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don't know like $200 $300 you can give me like an Amazon gift card I could find some shit on Amazon for $200 $300 like but something yeah yeah you need to give me something you can give me a bottle of wine and a card okay it don't even gotta be a gift card you can give me a nice bottle of wine a little 50 bottle $50 $60 bottle of wine and a gift I mean not a gift card a Christmas card yeah yeah

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Yeah, like, I don't see nothing wrong with that. If we had a fire date, we met on the 23rd.

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You can send your friend a little card, a little gift card. You know how happy I would be if Yvette sent me a box of cookies and I just met her?

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I'm just saying.

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Pass the peas like you used to do. Pass the peas like you used to do.

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Blame it on a... But no, I agree, friend. Like, because I was saying, if I met a man and we had an amazing date... It's two days before Christmas. Our date was phenomenal. I'm looking forward to going into the next year, talking to you, going on more dates. I would send you a gift. And like I said, we just met. So it's not like about a war of who could spend more money.

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It's not like, now if you want to send a Chanel bag, by all means, do you. But you don't have to do that. Like, it could be something small. Because most likely, I'm going to send you something small.

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Yeah. I just feel like when it comes to gifts, it's okay for people to do what's in their heart. Unless... Oops. You know that he got it and y'all been dating for a long time.

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And you know what the fuck going on.

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If I have a man... Like, if you send me a basket of candy, I might feel some type of way.

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You need to send me something that I like. Don't send me no basket of candy.

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You've Been Naughty

4702.96

No, you can send me... What you can send me for Christmas... Bro. You can buy me something for my house. I might want a new little centerpiece or something.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

472.156

Possibly.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

4724.589

Like, I will send you something like a little centerpiece bowl or something. Like, nothing too crazy, but I feel like you do need, you should give somebody what they like.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

473.657

But I'm not posting a man on my social media until I'm engaged. Okay. Even when I'm pregnant. If I get pregnant before I'm engaged, I'm going to cut his head off, the pictures.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

4773.19

Some of you knew he didn't have nothing.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

4857.006

Lima beans and butter beans are the same thing, right?

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

4859.787

Yes.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

5039.687

I'm not sneak-dicking at my auntie hoes. That's just disrespectful.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

5163.157

I think if you're comparing it to Christmas food, the only thing you should be comparing it to is mac and cheese. What other kind of coochie would you have?

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

5200.063

It's a little soft, too, if you cook it long enough. Hey.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

5340.354

It's a difference between good sex... And good coochie. You could very much be a woman who have good coochie. That doesn't mean you have good sex, because good sex entails knowing what to do in the bedroom.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

5760.606

Hey, Jack Thriller.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

5812.607

So... All you got to do is come to my show. I have the Jack Off Comedy Show every month.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

5898.334

And we'll. Okay. But, okay, my Christmas song, I mean, well, my song is All I Want for Christmas by Mariah Carey. Like, y'all, first of all, let's really chat about that song.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

5927.032

But anyways, it's been number one for like 20 years.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

6124.842

Hurt the streets hungry.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

6164.526

So, yes. Also, y'all, second item of the week, make sure you go to MuseBeautyCollection.com. Make sure you get your lip glosses, matte liquid lipsticks. Lip plumper, jelly blushes. We are having a Christmas sale right now that is going on until New Year's, and everything is 25% off. So, make sure y'all go to the website. Get everything that y'all need. Right now, I have on the Chestnut Lip Liner.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

6188.258

I have on the Lip Plumper, and I also have on the Honey Dip Matte Liquid Lipstick. So, yeah.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

6211.469

If you have any questions or testimonials, make sure you send them to askpoorminds at gmail.com. That's A-S-K-P-O-U-R. M-I-N-D-S at gmail.com.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

6282.571

Here we go. I felt it wasn't really my place to speak on his mother's actions. But now that we are engaged to be married, I have been expressing to him more about how I feel about his baby mama. I mean, about how his mama baby, wait, about his mama's baby.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

6328.348

And I feel like she's the number one woman in his life and not me. For example, she calls him every morning to make sure he's up for work. He's on the phone with her after every shift until he makes it home, runs her errands, and picks up her food. Yes, she has a husband, and they are literally only five minutes away from us.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

6346.421

When I voice my opinion, he basically tells me nothing is really going on to change because that's his mama. Of course, I want him to be close with his mom.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

6487.342

Not to say you gotta be disrespectful towards your mama, but I think that when you decide to get a partner, when you decide to be in a relationship with somebody, especially, like, marry somebody... your mom is no longer the number one in your life.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

6504.195

Your wife or your girlfriend is the number one. The person that you have a family with, the person that you're creating a legacy with, that's the number one person in your life. And if you're not willing to put them over everybody else, then you're not ready for real partnership. And... Yeah. You should just speak on it. You should just let that situation go because I'm sorry.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

6524.748

Whoever I'm with, he got to let it be known to people. Like, it's me. Yeah.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

6531.492

And it's not even about an ultimatum. It's not even about choosing someone over other people. But, like, if your family is making it difficult for you and your man to be together, he has to set boundaries. Yeah, absolutely. And it'll be known that, like, this my girl, this who I'm rocking with.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

6963.999

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Amen, sister. Hallelujah. Christ the Savior was born.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

6976.149

Praise God.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

725.299

You never called him uncle, though?

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

727.701

Or you called him mister?

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

820.143

But I'm going to hide they toys.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

850.404

Kids are funny, like, because the thing is... I think we talked about this on another episode. The thing about children, which I think is a good way to discipline children, in my opinion, you have to do back to them what they do to you. Maybe not the exact same thing, because who's going to put bobby pins down for a child to step on? But, like... You think that's funny?

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

869.958

Okay, I'm going to hide your toys.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

949.496

But, you know, I don't know. I think some kids, that's how you discipline them, though. You got to do back to them the shit that they be doing. Like, yeah, because when my mama beat me, I stopped biting people.

Pour Minds Podcast

You've Been Naughty

997.934

Because why are you playing with me? Why are you playing with me? All you gotta do is go to school. All you gotta do is study, go to school, get straight A's. That's all you gotta do as a kid. That's it. You really don't have that many tasks. You really don't. Yeah, that is true. So, to me, it's like... And if you have a learning issue, let me know.

Pour Minds Podcast

A Good Lil Nugget

2458.724

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Pour Minds Podcast

A Good Lil Nugget

489.58

Okay.

Pour Minds Podcast

A Good Lil Nugget

5390.366

Mm-hmm.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

1051.377

EST. Make sure y'all tune in. We're going to be in Key West, and we had a time.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

1372.03

But a lot of the time, it is people who are trying to in the same way.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

1582.304

And then, no. Hell no. But if we're at your show and he's a big fan of you and we came to see you. Yeah, that makes sense.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

1621.901

Oh, I wouldn't care. Sweetie is beautiful. I want a picture. Hey, girl, let's take a picture together.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

1701.178

It's not wrong, but I do get worse. I 100% agree with her. I feel like if you're with a man, like, it's different if you ask him. Like, it would have been different if she would have been like, do you mind if I get a picture with Marco?

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

1718.417

Yeah, like, you couldn't let her know if it was an appropriate setting or not so that it didn't embarrass you or make you feel no type of way. Like, I think as a woman, you should probably ask your man before you just try to take a picture with another man.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

1795.25

You know, Chicago people, they think... I heard all of that Chicago.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

1799.954

She from Chicago, too.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

1826.133

But that's the thing, though. I feel like at least if you ask, though, then it's like, okay, now I know. Like, he don't play that. I ain't gonna ask no more. I ain't gonna ask no more.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

1844.075

Well, I'll be real with you. I think I take that stance. Like, I'm not... I've been around a lot of people and I never really want to take pictures, but I think it's a lot of girls out there who do and I don't think anything is wrong with that.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

1857.771

Yeah, like I feel like they don't run into Marco all the time or they don't run into Dave Chappelle all the time. So it's like they might want to take a picture. I don't think anything is wrong with that. It's just about how you going about it. Like I think people can go about stuff in a thirsty way and then you can go about it in a respectful way.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

1984.68

How old are you, Marco?

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

1987.604

Not what's that.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

1989.786

That makes sense.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

199.442

Yeah, it was porn.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

2051.504

She ain't into you.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

209.058

Porn is, I feel like if it's free, it's not porn.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

214.244

I'm trying to find a good one. Okay. So not Wikipedia. I like Wikipedia, but that'd be me. Oh, no. Not for porn.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

224.396

Okay, the legal definition. The legal definition. Pornography is defined as materials such as pictures, videos, or writing that explicitly depict sexual acts or nudity with the primary intent of causing sexual arousal. It's often associated with the portrayal of erotic behavior in a way that is meant to be sexually exciting.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

2434.77

All right, so we know that Marco loves to take it to the limits, push it to the max. He loves to fuck around and find out. Ooh. That's what this drink is going to be called. Period. F-A-F-O. Fuck around and find out. So you can add whatever spirit of choice. He has some tequila in his, some reposado. Ooh. If you want to add anything else, you can. But we have some strawberry kiwi.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

244.709

She named media.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

2455.321

It's like an Arizona. Remember those? Yes. That's what it tastes like. Arizona strawberry kiwi in there. So we kind of remixed it, added a little lime and a little agave, make it kind of like a margarita. And then we garnished it with a beautiful kiwi, nice and fresh for the summer. So cheers.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

2488.967

And I love it because it automatically will sync with your Google Calendar, your Apple Calendar, and Outlook and more. I love anything that makes my life easier and And this seamlessly works into my schedule. It helps me plan out my weeks, months, days with no problem.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

2557.9

and it's your girl dre nicole and we have a very exciting announcement today we have a brand new show dropping yes so we have a brand new show dropping y'all on patreon it's gonna air on september 2nd and it's called poor chronicles we're gonna be doing so much stuff on there we're gonna be doing challenges if you can't go to bella no shade where the hell could you go

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

2585.392

We're going to be spilling a little tea.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

2660.353

Okay, so we're going to play a game, y'all. It's called Would You Rather. So we're going to throw out some wild scenarios, random scenarios, and you have to tell us which one you would rather.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

2767.581

But Henny breath, like, liquor breath, and then just stank breath.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

2772.003

It's different. It's two different things. Like, you can tell when somebody been drinking, and it's like, okay, I can smell the liquor on your breath.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

3097.881

Okay. Well, no, I'm not. But the thing about me, I'm more so used to quit jobs. I only got... I got laid off one time. So it's hard for you to keep... I do think I have undiagnosed ADHD. I feel like I had it my whole life.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

3127.461

But I don't have it.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

3129.022

But I do think that I probably have had undiagnosed ADHD.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

3135.829

I just always had a problem with authority. Like, I don't want somebody telling me when I have to be somewhere, what I have to do, doing the same mundane thing every single day and then making a low amount of money, which some people do end up eventually making a lot of money working for people. But I wasn't at that level when I was working because I was young.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

3154.94

And I didn't think I wanted to work 20 years to make it.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

3186.266

I am a disciplined person. Like, I can do whatever I put my mind to. If I know I need to go to the gym, I'm going to go. If I know I need to read a book, if I know I need to read a script, I'm going to do it. If I know I need to log in my journal today, I'm going to do it. I don't need somebody to... pushed me to do things. I think some people need that push. And that's okay.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

3207.417

Okay. No, because I... No, he right, though. Because I wouldn't... Why the fuck I gotta get up every day at this time?

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

3248.631

But funny, fun fact, I got to being a green belt, but I stopped because I didn't like how they would hit you on the foot with that bamboo stick when you would be in the wrong stance. And he just had me so fucked up. I went off on him one day and I told my parents, I'm not going back. Stop hitting me with that shit.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

3532.4

They said, I love, they was like, oh my God, you from that podcast. I love your show. What's your name?

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

3574.665

I wouldn't say, hey, I'm a big fan of you. What's your name?

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

3710.344

A tourist is a zodiac sign.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

4052.057

You know what, though? And I know you're getting bored. That's my story.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

4192.463

a Lil Wayne stan. I'm a Lil Wayne stan.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

4373.354

Yeah. I'm just thinking in general.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

4377.119

Yeah. When we were talking about Lil Wayne and Soulja Boy, I'm thinking of it from a standpoint of, like, him asking who was more influential in general.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

4441.559

One thing I love about Chime is that they have fee-free overdraft up to $200. I don't know about y'all, but if I don't have the $5, I surely don't have the overdraft fee. And on top of that, you can also get your pay early with MyPay. You can get up to $500 of your paycheck early.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

447.253

What you think I'm addicted to?

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

4517.615

Period. If you have an item or you have a business and you want to get it promoted, we are now having slots available on the Poor Minds episode. So if you would like to get your product featured for Item of the Week, all you need to do is send an email to itemoftheweekpm at gmail.com. That's I-T-E-M O-F-T-H-E-W-E-E-K-P-M at gmail.com. Send us an email, and we'll work it out.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

4545.489

We're going to figure it out. Get your product. Get your business sponsored. And, yeah, make you some money.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

4554.155

And a black business at that. But, I mean, any business is welcome.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

4695.471

So then, do we have to change your name? I'll be thinking about it. It's a lot. It's a lot.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

4731.846

Well, I don't take men on dates.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

4736.569

Well, you said you were trying to take me to Zaxby's last time I saw you, so no.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

4779.503

I am fresh out of chips. I got a kiwi. You want a kiwi? Bitch, do I look like one of the motherfucking Kiwi?

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

5135.15

She just met him.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

5138.093

I like your set.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

5139.474

You have a set on.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

5257.651

Pudgy, you have never said nothing about taking me on a good date. First, it was Zaxby's. Now it's Culver's. I don't understand why you think we going on a date. You my cousin.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

5628.635

What about you? Have you dated women who wanted to, like, you know?

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

5826.186

Who you waiting on?

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

6187.168

Y'all are so funny.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

6206.903

Okay, so we're about to get into another segment that we love.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

6287.815

into the bow.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

6722.307

Real quick, we want to get into our favorite segment of the show, which is Pour Your Heart Out. So make sure you go to askpoorminds at gmail.com. Send us your questions, your testimonials.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

6802.188

Let me see. It's chapter one.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

6805.53

It's chapter one of Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Song. Chamber of Secrets is actually one of the most viral.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

6947.951

Hey, Lex and Dre, I started dating a guy I met on Instagram. We bought this speed reading. Yeah. By the way.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

6966.232

We vibed, went on a few dates, and talked for about a month. He has a demanding job, so I understood the limited time. But after a week of spotty communication, I asked respectfully what was up. He told me he was falling back because things at work were picking up, and he didn't want the stress of an emotional rollercoaster. That hurt. I wasn't trying to be... Huh?

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

744.784

No, but still is handsome.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

7446.147

Yeah. Stop it. Something ain't right in the water.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

7667.882

Yeah, make sure y'all tune in to Travel Queens, April 23rd, every Wednesday. Make sure y'all follow me on my YouTube channel, Dre and Nicole with three E's. I drop beauty content, vlogs.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

871.992

You're right. But I feel like if you're going to dish it, you need to be able to take it. Oh, I can take it.

Pour Minds Podcast

Good Nutts FT. Marco Summers

972.045

Yes, y'all. So I love Good Wipes because they are naturally scented and hypoallergenic. They come in so many amazing scents like Shea Cocoa, lavender, cedar, and rose water.

Prof G Markets

Spotify’s First Year of Profitability + Is Google Losing its Edge?

1304.918

It's been a rough week for your retirement account, your friend who imports products from China for the TikTok shop, and also Hooters.

Prof G Markets

Spotify’s First Year of Profitability + Is Google Losing its Edge?

1314.001

Hooters has now filed for bankruptcy, but they say they are not going anywhere.

Prof G Markets

Spotify’s First Year of Profitability + Is Google Losing its Edge?

1337.398

Maybe in April of 2025, you're thinking, good riddance. Does the world still really need this chain of restaurants? But then we were surprised to learn of who exactly was mourning the potential loss of Hooters. Straight guys who like chicken, sure. But also a bunch of gay guys who like chicken? Check out Today Explained to find out why exactly that is, won't you?

Prof G Markets

Spotify’s First Year of Profitability + Is Google Losing its Edge?

86.885

1977, no me diga no, me lo presiento. Todo lo que cambia lo es.

Prof G Markets

Spotify’s First Year of Profitability + Is Google Losing its Edge?

863.579

Let's face it, they got valuable because they were in the right. They got lucky. I mean, it's not like amazing R&D where they said, we're going to come up with a weight loss drug. The diabetes drug happened to have a side benefit. And I think that until they come up with another product that is a market changer, blockbuster drug.

Prof G Markets

Spotify’s First Year of Profitability + Is Google Losing its Edge?

883.484

I think the hypothesis has to be that they got lucky with these two drugs and they're going to go back to being a sleepy Danish diabetes drug company.

Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast

The OnlyFans Murder - The Story of Fake Barbie

31.533

Können wir.

Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast

The OnlyFans Murder - The Story of Fake Barbie

35.824

Können wir.

Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast

The OnlyFans Murder - The Story of Fake Barbie

43.218

Können wir.

Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast

The OnlyFans Murder - The Story of Fake Barbie

45.299

Na klar, können wir. Was du aus deiner Zukunft auch machst. Wir können alles, was kommt. Das Handwerk.

Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast

Hawk Tuah Is In Big Trouble Now - The Haliey Welch story

322.145

I have questions. I'm raising my hand.

Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast

Hawk Tuah Is In Big Trouble Now - The Haliey Welch story

325.747

Hey, this is one of the most miserable, horrible launches I've ever seen in my life.

Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast

Hawk Tuah Is In Big Trouble Now - The Haliey Welch story

332.391

I've been tracing it on chain for a while. You guys generated over a million dollars in fees while y'all's fans got rug pulled. There was snipers, but there was also insider trading directly linked to y'all's creator account. What are you guys doing?

Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast

Hawk Tuah Is In Big Trouble Now - The Haliey Welch story

357.304

Brother, who profited? Over a million dollars was just made.

Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast

Hawk Tuah Is In Big Trouble Now - The Haliey Welch story

77.127

Oh my gosh. Thank you so much. This is your first podcast ever. First anything ever. Yes, ma'am.

Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast

The Worst Crime in NFL History - The Aaron Hernandez story

28.124

Losmachen?

Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast

The Worst Crime in NFL History - The Aaron Hernandez story

29.605

Vormachen, mitmachen, stark machen?

Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast

The Worst Crime in NFL History - The Aaron Hernandez story

32.406

Wahr machen, möglich machen, schön machen, Freude machen, Sinn machen?

Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast

The Worst Crime in NFL History - The Aaron Hernandez story

36.728

Pause machen? Können wir. Platt machen, ganz machen, neu machen, Mut machen, gut machen, besser machen?

Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast

The Worst Crime in NFL History - The Aaron Hernandez story

44.17

Und Karriere machen?

Real Coffee with Scott Adams

Episode 2665 CWSA 11/20/24

1439.654

Holy shit.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams

Episode 2665 CWSA 11/20/24

1630.302

54%.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams

Episode 2665 CWSA 11/20/24

2880.481

70%.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams

Episode 2665 CWSA 11/20/24

860.405

Shoot.

Something You Should Know

A Serious Look at UFOs & The Power of Grace in Today’s World

935.703

I'm Amy Nicholson, the film critic for the LA Times.

Something You Should Know

A Serious Look at UFOs & The Power of Grace in Today’s World

946.411

We come together to host Unspooled, a podcast where we talk about good movies, critical hits, fan favorites, must-sees, and in case you missed them. We're talking Parasite to Home Alone.

Something You Should Know

A Serious Look at UFOs & The Power of Grace in Today’s World

956.458

So if you love movies like we do, come along on our cinematic adventure.

Something You Should Know

A Serious Look at UFOs & The Power of Grace in Today’s World

962.142

And don't forget to hit the follow button.

Stuff You Should Know

Who Put Bella In the Wych Elm?

1282.54

That's right, Mango. We're talking animals.

Stuff You Should Know

Who Put Bella In the Wych Elm?

2218.871

That's right, Mango. We're talking animals.

Stuff You Should Know

Who Put Bella In the Wych Elm?

2782.489

That's right, Mango. We're talking animals.

Stuff You Should Know

Richard III: Good Guy or Evil Putz?

3144.938

I get so choked up because I feel like your show and the conversations are what the world needs, encouraging, empowering, counter-programming that acts like a lighthouse when the world feels dark.

Stuff You Should Know

Richard III: Good Guy or Evil Putz?

51.283

I get so choked up because I feel like your show and the conversations are what the world needs, encouraging, empowering, counter-programming that acts like a lighthouse when the world feels dark.

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i guess i'll go be on camera now definitely not self-conscious was it the playoff oh it wasn't they weren't there for the play oh you weren't on camera while you were casting it's fine you looked good for the playoff jason thanks you always look good jason thanks you're the million dollar man it's really feeling good feeling the love today

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Had a lot of offers, but decided to go with a homegrown project.

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I think it's something about, I think my headset cable is fucked, the wires, and that's somehow fucking it. I think that's the problem, not the phone. But never mind.

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Do you think the Oxygen guy is cheating? Oh, here we go.

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Did you think anything was suspicious when you watched it or not?

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Also, the one time, the jump one time, only one time, with the office ticket. He jumped out of ramp when the office ticket. Every other time, he was just running out.

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Yeah, I thought it was pretty good. Again, we come back to this. Just the Americans, the size of their country. Jason, that's a quick ride. I can go through four different countries in that amount of time.

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Well, I was going to say that for me, that's a condemnation of the teams that they played against.

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Yes, it certainly is. Especially, I mean, okay, Complexity seems to be just down in the dumps. The only team they beat was Imperial. Imperial Valkyries, yeah, since they had this roster. FlyQuest, I don't know what the hell happened there. They even had that game against Big where they owned them on the first map, then owned on the next two. And then 3D Max.

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I haven't watched 3D Max play in so long. I didn't do any of their games, but they seem to have been on the rise. They had some good results lately, and then they get towed by Saw.

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I know, but also it's a matter of preparation, man. I mean, it's predictable. A dead team, how are they going to play? They're going to take more risks.

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You need to be ready for that. And sure, if it happens that it's one of those games where they are taking those risks and you're kind of ready for it, but they still just own you and win the fights, or they're just better on the day, then you can say okay. But if you have one of those games where they're doing some of that wild stuff, and then you're getting caught by it, that's on you.

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That's you being poorly prepared. That's on the individual players, that's on the team as a whole as well, not having a good approach. You don't need to necessarily even watch too much of their stuff. You just focus on yourself, and you have a couple of setups or protocols you focus on and the ways you approach things.

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Because once you handle the early round, that's the main... It's half the job done. Yeah, that's half the job done. Because as the...

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round gets longer their coordination and their cohesion is going to drop right and and the the later the round goes the more disorganized they're going to be and the more disjointed but if you lose to some pops and you keep giving away opening kills i mean that's just poor cs from your side yeah yeah

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There was definitely there was at least one room available. I actually took Chris out for food when they were here in January, you know, and we talked and he told me even then straight up, like if they, unless they make it into groups, like if they made it into stage two, then they would have stayed in between because there's not too much time between Kuz and stuff.

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But if they got eliminated, then they were going to go back home because then it was about 10 days.

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yeah they have clues then straight after that pro league yep then straight after that also something else so i mean if they didn't go home then they couldn't have gone home for like are they in lisbon i don't think they're in lisbon i'm pretty sure they're not in lisbon i'm not sure let me check so yeah i mean it's it's tough for some of these teams um no they're not in lisbon

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I mean, right now, they're 23rd. They're behind Complexity in the global ranking. They're 23rd.

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inkling on on how the ranking works it's still way too early to make any after this event it'll be good it'll really be telling after yeah it's also important yeah to see how the pgl event with prize money heavy and without the tier one teams being there how much some of these other teams are going to move i mean pain right now is 12th they're gonna go up

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gonna be good for Falcons, for Maus, who are 8 and 9. FaZe and Eternal Fire are 4 and 5. Mongols are 3, so they could all go further up or extend the gap, right?

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I mean, it's not bad. Oh, would have been me. I don't know, but nothing.

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It's not my fault some guy gambled his whole life away.

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I do agree with Jason, though. He had this take a long time ago. It's like, fuck that it's the normalcy now that we have teams skipping stages.

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Yeah, that as well. I mean, and then it's just, well, and that's why I understand HLTV with how they do the stats for the tournament as well. It's like, yeah, I mean, if you're not, you can't face the eight of the strongest teams and the eight, well, now the eight highest ranked teams in the world. Like, are you really playing the same tournament? Like, obviously not.

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That's why I was always for these GSL systems instead of Swiss and whatnot, because you can put all the teams in there then. Right. And also, you don't need to beat necessarily the number one seed in your group to make the playoffs or to make it into the next phase. You need to beat the number two in reality. Right. Like.

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Yeah, well, that was different. We had a different problem because of the seeding and everything. That's the thing. It's like we're not going to get into that talk, but we always said if the seeding is more important than the format because a good format cannot bail you out of bad seeding, But good seeding, you can live with even in an inferior format. Sure.

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And you could see in Kato, both things happen. You could see Mongols capitalize on their good seeding, right? And beat Liquid and Gamer Legion, and they were in the playoffs. Or you had someone like G2, who lost to Virtus.pro in their opening game, and then were fucked, right? And had to play... Falcons then lost to FaZe after that, right? I think so.

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You know, and FaZe had to play Vitality, they lost to them, but then BG2 and lost to Eternal Fire in the end. So it's all about, yeah, the seeding gives you an upper hand, but you still need to win that game. Especially now with VRS, you work hard to earn that high seed and to climb up in the rankings. So I don't see what the issue is there. Who really wants to see, I don't know, like fucking...

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complexity saw play and and teams like like those five or six teams like that play try to like three times in one tournament like i don't give a fuck like those two teams will play to not be last in their group and that's fine whoever wins will probably play one more game against a better team they can have that one upset win during the playoffs like that's that's fine for me right but

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Whether it's Swiss, whether it's these separate stages, just trying to, I don't know what, like reinvent the wheel in a sense. I think, especially now, in a weird way, obviously not for PGL, but it's kind of...

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cool that imagine if all the top teams were this event as well i mean bro what are we doing we have event after event with all the same teams okay a little bit different format the the bounty stuff is cool um teams seeding each other at pro league is like also kind of cool but those are not some massive thing that's now people are going to watch the tournament because of that no it's just a nice little way to to make it a little bit more different than everything else but

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It is tough. I don't know if I saw an article or what I see where someone talking about, like, you know, how do you keep interest as a viewer? Like, what's the difference? Okay, sure. Katowice, Cologne, and the majors, you can say that it's on a different level a little bit. But for any other tournament outside of those four, it's like, why would you watch...

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You were not doing podcasts pre-pandemic. Shut the fuck up.

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No, but the point is... It's the way it is. I know, but the counter argument to that is the way it is is unreasonable. It shouldn't be that way.

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I know, but obviously there'll be some adjustments.

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I know, but you were the one who also had a great line. It's like, if everything is hype, nothing is hype. Which doesn't just relate to tournaments, but also to work and casting and everything like that.

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for me it's we're getting and i agree of course you can watch or not watch but the problem is it feels like everybody's losing in this sort of an equation because again like you said if everything is hype nothing is hype is then if you get to see these teams play each other is like what's the difference i think it's similar maybe the a little bit of an issue that the nba has they have 82 regular season games some teams play each other four times

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Yeah, but there's also a date when you get invited and you have to reply to the invite then. And that might be before some of these results happen or whatnot. I mean, Chad, I'm with you. I always think competition is great for the consumer in the end. And those are some of the, I think this whole year will be like that.

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Like it will take this whole year for teams to sort of figure out what's going on for the players to form an attitude and an opinion in terms of, are we really okay with skipping these events?

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What if now, because of this result from Saw or someone like Pain, or I don't know, and you see what sort of an effect going deep in a PGL event has compared to maybe a Blaster or an ESL, and they're just like, maybe not even the players, just the org themselves are like, hey, actually, for Team Liquid, for example, we can't afford to do this. Actually, we're going to go...

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to the PGL event over one of these two events because, yeah, sure, that will mean more pressure because we need a deep run there. We need the prize money to go up in the rankings so we can secure invites to some of these upcoming events. You know, who knows what will happen? Like we're still super early. Just for me, I kind of

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I'm not a fan of it because at the moment it feels a little bit like a race to the bottom. But as you said, it's up to the people to figure it out. Because, for example, I love basketball. Not a huge fan of the NBA in itself, but I don't even watch a single game until the playoffs. And in the playoffs, then, you know, not all the games.

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Probably I just follow Denver or if there's a good game somewhere, right? Because... That's another thing that the NFL has. Like, the NFL has scarcity. I mean, there's 18 games now, 17 games in a season, right? And the playoffs are single elimination.

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Yeah, each team plays 17 games. Okay, yeah, yeah. And then there's, you know, playoffs are 14 teams, best of one single elimination. One team skips. Two teams skip one from each conference. One game. They get one game by for being the number one seed in the conference, which is kind of all right. And they get home field advantage. But that's why it's like, you know, in the NFL, you have that.

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And then some teams, you know, you have teams in your division, whatever, who you play twice every year. But then you have a team that you can only, sometimes you play a team once every five, six years. And then if you have that matchup, maybe it's like two good teams that don't meet each other often. Wow, there's so much hype around this game. And that's the thing. It's like, yeah.

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Spirit versus Na'Vi is a hype matchup but if we've seen if we were watching them play for the third time in four months and it's you know the group stage of something and they just play the semi-final of Katowice it's gonna be like whatever And I mean, did you guys see the... Did you watch the vlog of Spirit from Katowice? I mean, I just watched the part about the grand final.

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Because I wanted to see, you know, compared to the major one, right? That went great and this one that went awful and... Halle is talking about it even, I think, probably even before the final started, saying, you know, it's our fourth final in a row, but we can't get used to it. We can't get complacent. In a way, you only get these opportunities so many times.

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We need to come out swinging and everything. And obviously they came out.

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completely flat and then after that i mean all of a sudden he was saying is just like you guys need to wake up and and whatever probably they didn't want to show some of the other stuff that that he was saying but you know also for for them having that sort of a start of a season and then you need to figure you're suffering from success really if you're if you're spirited

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I thought, yeah, I was surprised. I was wondering if the desk is going to move as well or not. But I guess since it's there, easy enough.

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Yeah, and what's interesting there is what Silvio tweeted out when he was talking about the prize pool and everything and how PGL is, that's why they're just, all the money is going into the prize pool and that, you know, the fact that the structure is with teams in a way where players still get the majority of it is like something that they don't necessarily, you know, understand or whatever.

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But I feel like that's a potential conversation for the future. It's like, okay, players are incentivized themselves to play multiple tournaments because if they go deep and they win all this prize money, right? But if, let's say, the majority or 100% of the prize money goes...

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to the org and they're getting salaried and sure you get some bonuses for performance for whatever placings blah blah blah winning tournaments and shit then they would be fine you know with playing less having more time to practice and just playing one tournament a month

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I think you can obviously tell with both Blast and ESL, there's an element there of the corporate culture that's got into these companies where, you know, maybe we even remember a time where they were more similar to what PGL is now. But over the course of time, as you grow and, you know, that's like, I don't know who it was. It was some sort of a Steve Jobs quotes talking about managers is like,

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You don't need, you know, what do they do in a call? You know, they just prevent people from doing productive work with constantly having meetings and stuff and so on. Right. Like so, yeah, there's probably an element there where there's it's more difficult to get things done. Right. The more the bigger you get, while someone like PGL is way more. Flexible. They're agile. Adaptable.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And, you know, it's easier to get shit done. It's like, hey, listen, like, whatever, some of the graphics, hey, I have this idea that, you know, do you think it's cool? Yeah, cool, yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. It's done. Right?

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Like, meanwhile, somewhere else you want to do something, you want to do coins, like, go through three different hoops, talk to seven different people to approve something, and it's like, at that point, you're like, I just, this is just not worth it.

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I think also, I mean, if people are unaware, Chad always talks about how his time living in the U.S. was the best time of his life.

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You guys did not qualify. You were not playing in the Cluj major, were you?

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Jason, you were there. I was there? Yeah, you were there. 10-odd years ago.

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There was a qualifier. There was a qualifier because I worked as an analyst. That was kind of my first.

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Are you bored, Jason, talking about the same things twice one week? Because that's Chad's life for the last two years, and I never heard him complain one time.

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I don't know why. Why was he so hyped up? I hear also people outside of Brazil talking about, oh, yeah, he's the new prodigy coming out of Brazil. He's so sick. I mean, no, he's not.

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I think the problem for them is they don't have too many vocal players because Big Uzair did change for like one game to play B on Mirage.

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And then they changed it back because he's in con and calls a lot and is very vocal. And the guy who plays that spot has to be. I mean, you're pretty much dictating how you're going to approach the CT side because you're the one saying, I'm going to fight for Med, not fight for Med. What are you going to do? So...

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Exactly. I don't know what happens. The first kill is the guy on the left, no?

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that's the issue like if you want to play some of those roles you need to have a little bit of authority and sort of demand things and guide people at least to some extent so yeah but I was very surprised when I heard some people talk about oh yeah Snow is like incredible it's like no he's not bad but he's like just kind of hanging in there in a way and he's doing alright I mean nothing special

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Well, I don't know about you guys. I hate saying this, but it's like, what? There's nothing exciting about this team.

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No, but I don't really like... So what? There's another, what, month and a half for that to change before it matters.

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Because when you watch them play, they're not doing anything differently than other teams, right? They're just trying to do whatever. They're just playing within the meta, right? So they don't have some specific style about them that you're going to look at and be like, oh, that's actually pretty cool, pretty interesting. All right.

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They have players who are, you know, have a couple of good players, a couple of whatever players, you know, interesting sometimes, exciting to watch, but not really too much there. And then in terms of results, yeah, every now and then they beat a really good team, but then every now and then they lose to a team that they are supposed to beat and are just like sort of there. You know what I mean?

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It's like, at least like you go back to a team like B and E, at least they had like a distinct style and you were like excited to watch them play. Even though they weren't going to, you know, necessarily make deep runs or you wouldn't see them outside of the major. But at least when, when you have that, like you were like, you had something to get excited about.

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Actually, probably what I said is the case for all Brazilian teams because of what you just said, because they can't fucking make that super team.

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For seven, eight years now. I mean, ever since the SKLG. Speaking my language.

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even then like they were sort of like that when they did want to get Yuri and Xerath like that's where it started like they were unable to get them because they were MRBR everyone wanted to charge them you know a million for each player and shit because they felt like they're a US or they can they can pay the you know the fees and of course Tommy our boy is not gonna let anyone fucking scam him out of his music

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Right? So that's the problem. Like you could make a really sick team. What's up, Chad?

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All Brazilian teams are, all of them are at the moment.

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I don't know I'm not too excited about this mouse you know like either I mean Brolin also I hate this fuck they're still going at it even Brolin himself is going at it he's like yeah I always wanted to be an IGL why haven't we heard about this one time in any of your interviews why have you never said in some interview in some long form fucking thing in Swedish why was it never actually my dream is to be an IGL one day like that's really my desire

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And also, after you did it the first time, you gave that one interview, you helped out the org so it doesn't look like they just handed you a hot fucking potato. Yeah, I was actually considering this. Okay, don't talk about it again, right? Because now, actually, you are tanking your own reputation, potentially, if shit goes south, right? It's the same thing device did. Oh, I wanted to be an IGL.

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I always thought about it. Terrible IGL. Six months later, actually, I was just kidding. Like, why are you doubling down? Why are you going in so deep? Obviously, he can't go out there and say, yeah, the team kind of... Someone had to do it, right? You're not going to say that, but you don't have to glaze it so much, man. I agree with this sentiment.

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Because, sorry, just lastly, he's like, what, 22, 23? He doesn't need to go into that position yet. He's already changed roles a little bit from being space creator to being the lurker, kind of figured it out and was doing a good job. Now, you're kind of in the risk of...

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That is the topic. When you ask him that, and he says that, you ask him, why is this the first time we hear about it? But no one asks any follow-up. God forbid someone upsets a fucking player in an interview. Jesus Christ. Back to this topic, of course.

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It's fitting that they changed their jerseys to black and white because it did look like an obituary for Astralis. Which is funny because they made the playoffs of Cluj and it's like you just did a good thing. Now you had a boo-boo. What's going on? Although not making the playoffs, you know, with five or whatever, six of the top ten teams not attending would be also a disaster for them.

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and sure let's you know it's mr12 they have a coach who has a big say they can game plan a lot you know there's stuff to help you sort of get into it and for the team to still play on a decent level and all of that but people underestimated what chad was talking about you know you need to be a certain type of a guy to be able to do that same way we talk about a star player needs to have

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an ego to some extent, or if you're going to be the best. It's the same for IGLs. You need to fucking want it. You need to get off on outsmarting the other guy, of getting into his head, of maybe preparing something, and in a key moment, you call that round. It's for your must-win round, and it works, and you're like, yeah, fuck you. I outsmarted you. I'm better than you. I won. You suck.

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You need to have all of that. That's why Apex is a great IGL. You can fucking see it Every single time, the dude fucking cares. And he loves that shit. He loves that part about it. You can see it in Kerrigan. Remember the... Dallas, the end game in Dallas in nature, where you get them, it's like, you know, absolutely. It's the fucking, it's on that side. It's the other side.

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I have a fucking great idea. Just hyping himself up as well. You know, like I'm not saying a hundred percent of the guys have it and are like that, but there's a really high chance that, you know, the guys who are the most successful are going to have that element to them. And if you're just a guy who's like, yeah, I mean, this is kind of cool thing to do. Am I going to be doing it?

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You're going to... I'm not going to say you're going to fucking suck, but you are... You're not going to be great. Yeah, you're starting on the back foot already. Like, you really need to want it because it is a fucking shit assignment. Like, you do so much work, so much, you know, of the details, the minutia. Of course, it's more fun to just go on Deathmatch and do some other shit, right?

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But no, you're watching demos, you're looking at nades, you're thinking, you're theorycrafting, doing all this shit only for a fucking teammate to forget what he does in a strat or... or to miss a smoke. And you still have to lift them up because you're a good idea.

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Well, this would be a damning loss for the Mongols because on one side you have the super experienced, you know, Astralis roster in terms of LAN games, playoffs, all of that outside of Steyr. Yeah, be a little bit. And then you have Mongols who've had one game in Shanghai and two games in... Kato. And Kato, right, but are the better team at the moment.

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So this is where they, again, just need to get it done. Eternal Fire choked against them.

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And that's the thing with the Mongols. The reason why they got so high and everything is like people don't punish their map all enough. They may be just the nature of things or just maybe being a little bit fortunate with the matchups. But yeah, I think Dust 2 is, I don't want to say a free win, but it's probably like a map where you're not going to have an easier time against them.

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I don't think Dust 2 is good enough. Yeah, unfortunately for them, but for just, you know, Mongols get to play so much ancient Mirage where it's like, you know, and then after that it's Anubis and Inferno, the two other maps that they play, like even on Nuke, it's not great.

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It feels like they lack discipline. They don't have enough discipline in game. What's funny?

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Now I don't have a Russian, now I have an Austrian accent as well.

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We might see him at one tournament by the end of the year.

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Second... You feel like their level drops off on LAN.

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and with each passing day senzu's hand is healing more and more so he's closer to being true percent and then you're fucked and also the whole cadian thing from cologne right when cadian was on heroic and he was like standing up and shouting at the mongols remember that whole thing like calling so they'll be fucking horny as fuck the mongols in this game

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No, I don't think so. Although it would be a typical phase to go 3-0 in groups for one time in their history and then to lose to Saw. But no, I don't think there's a way.

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I think here's the thing. The problem isn't necessarily when the game goes live and when they're on the stage. It's everything leading up to that point, right? It's like all the work you do in between that becomes more difficult and more strange.

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It's like all those practice games that you've played, you know, in the last couple of days where practice is just like that's where people are lacking energy and it feels slow and then you don't feel like progressing and you're in a bad mood coming into the game, right? And you're not feeling confident. It's like there where you want to avoid it. It's the same thing.

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There was like an NFL guy, I think it was Junior Seau, and he was in the Chargers for a long time, went to the Patriots. Guy sees him and he's like, he's pressing his ass off. He was like the NFL, he was like the history leading tackler or something along those lines. And Guy Asim's like, bro, why are you going so hard in practice? It's like, because this is what you get paid for.

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You get paid for to practice. I played the games for free, you know, because it's easy. It's easy to go out, you know, in front of thousands of people and play and do that. It's like, it's this shit that's hard, you know, running around.

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I haven't seen Ted Lasso. It's a junior style quote, apparently.

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Well, also, I think Falcon's Eternal Fire, I think Eternal Fire is like 10 11 0 against falcons as an org they're like 19 and 1 in in maps against the falcons obviously different iterations of the roster over the last two years year and a half or whatever but they're just like so so comfortable uh playing against them

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No, I think it's good. I think definitely the feeling of not necessarily being able to do in officials, like some of the stuff that's been going in practice, because practice has been going pretty good. But now in this tournament, you know, they made the playoffs, they beat...

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Maus beat Astralis so I think they're happy with making playoffs finally having a good result and this is where also if we're talking about Astralis versus the Mongols I mean this is where guys like Niko Magisk especially right who is one of the guys you want to see perform where they should their game should be elevated compared to the

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opposition right in a sense and i think for falcons the problem was they played eternal fire in uh katowice and on inferno they win both pistols lose the second round both times they lose another round to two pistols there was that nico 3k with the deagle the then magus and kicks on through the 2v1 right so they had a lot of missed opportunities too many uh for an mr12 game so if they tighten up they definitely have a chance as

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I am more curious to see how Eternal Fire will play. Because if they just fall flat again and choke completely, especially against a team like Falcons, who they've... Even this team, they played them in Kato, beat them. They played them in Bounty, beat them, like this exact lineup of Falcons.

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So that's then becoming a little bit worrisome for them where, okay, you're going to make the playoffs, but then you're just going to completely crumble. It's not a viable strategy, obviously. And also last time Falcons picked Train. I don't think they'll pick Train.

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But I think Falcons will like that. I mean, like that. I think they feel like they know how to play against Eternal Fire or Inferno. Just sort of executing it has been the issue, not the approach.

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Faze, Mongols, Pain, Maus, and Eternal Fire. Falcons, I don't know.

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There's a higher chance of Miles beating Mongols than of Mongols beating FaZe.

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For me, this is one of those series where the maps don't matter at all.

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really i don't think they matter at all i think what matter what eternal fire had going for them against falcons was two things happened one eternal fire was playing relaxed and they were playing their own game and they were playing well and the other thing falcons were making too many fundamental mistakes right and nico was talking in interviews about pressure and like how everyone wants to see them fail and you know maybe they were well that hasn't changed

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Maybe they were playing with a little bit too much pressure. Now they finally had a good result. Maybe some of that pressure is alleviated, making it into the playoffs, winning some games, showing some good stuff. They also managed to qualify for Dallas.

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They also had to go early to play that. So maybe some of that early on people... You know, the worst has not happened. Could have been much worse than it is right now. So I think if they make fewer of those mistakes and then we'll see how Eternal Fire plays, that's the only thing that's going to matter.

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If Eternal Fire plays the same they did last two times when they played them, they will probably end up on top. Not going to be as clear cut, but, you know, they should be the better team at this moment than, again, if they...

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you know choke a little bit and falcons are playing more relaxed and more loose like they can absolutely beat them and it doesn't matter again the necessarily the maps or anything because i don't think you know it's like the levels of the teams that are hard to predict not that any you know that the maps necessarily matter i think so here's a question do you think this quarterfinal means more to ef or more to falcons to win

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No, but my phone is away now. I don't know where to put it.

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i'm i'm getting anna on the line we're getting that phone and she's gonna go put it next to the baby and it's gonna it's gonna sit next to ed we're gonna they left i mean not forever like oh no they're just not uh i i sent them away so i can do the podcast in peace that's how we do it over here who's gonna who's gonna change the laundry machine when it pops off It's fine.

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Janko, anything to say? No, I just saw that ESL just announced the ESL Pro Tour opting in for revenue and profit share. And there's a whole thing in there, but I can't read it now. I don't want to read it now.

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I want to end it. Let's end it. This was a fun one. Thanks, everyone.

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I got no excuse. He doesn't have that excuse going for him.

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So, Chad, how does it feel to be on your... third event in a row hitting?

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It's also nice when you can just take a round off, Chad.

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They should take out 50 euros out of your rate for that day.

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do we want to get straight into it i feel like we haven't done enough like silly business yeah jason had his first off day yesterday in three weeks so what did you do jason for your off day on my off day yesterday i woke up it's probably going to be redacted half of it but share with us what you can i woke up and i made breakfast uh for the kid what did you oh yeah uh scrambled eggs very nice very nice scrambled eggs how do

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That's one of my best friends. His favorite day of the year is the 1st of January. Because he says on the 1st of January, your mind is just empty. You don't think about... There's nothing to think about. It's the 1st of January, right? New Year, you're probably out somewhere doing something for New Year's. You wake up hungover and you can just sit down, turn on the TV and think about nothing.

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There's nothing. I think his words were kind of like, I don't have a single thought going through my head right now. I love January 1st.

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Why was that, Chad?

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and especially when you you eat yourself after like when you you're thinking like negative thoughts you just wanna i just wanted to go to sleep and like that night yeah yeah so i think also you were what 18 at the time yeah 19 18 yeah so it's you know a little kind of understandable for the first experience of playing on a stage or just like that i don't think it's too shocking i think that's something that a lot of players that's what we talk about right like that's what we talk about the pressure we talk about all those things and now you've won a cologne and katowice

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What was some of the advice that Magus, Corzonic, or Apex gave you then? Do you remember?

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Well, I think also some of those players realize is like these moments don't last forever. Sure, guys have long careers and you're the best in the world for a while. Then you're not. Then you may be again. But some of the rivalries too. When you hear Kerrigan talk about, okay, we're going up against... You know, before Na'Vi or G2, you know, it's always a fun game, especially on stage.

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You need to enjoy these while they're around. There's no secrets. You know, we know how they play. They know how we play. You know the maps, right? It's just about going out there and see who's going to be better on the day. And I think that those are the games that are most entertaining for the viewers too, right?

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You know, it's going to be a banger and you're just like looking forward to seeing who's going to pop off this time.

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And also tell us about that grand final after.

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Dude, but that's why when in Kato last year, when he first came to the tournament, we had them do that highlight dunk.

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from the opponent's pov just so and I think that's the first time when people read when everyone was like holy damn like it's if you don't kill him in the first two three bullets of your spray like that's it for you and sometimes it's just the one bullet because he will kill you with his first one and it was insane to see it and then you're like all right this kid's just

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or the third one or the third one i was just playing all the i'm sure he's playing it right now like oh no get him off that now i love it like and maggie score like a proper player god fucking nerds man but um talking about zaibu it felt like even in that grand final he was a little bit more sort of Like, I'm going to do whatever I want on the server. He's swinging his dick around.

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Yeah, he was swinging his dick around. Like, maybe... I don't know if he was, like... Because he's always so humble, right?

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Doesn't care too much. Yeah, I know, but...

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Did he get a little bit sort of internally pissed that he wasn't really in the conversation last year towards the end about the number one player? It was just Don Cormonesi.

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I think it's also that situation where he got rops instead of him and they just won Kadovite. So it's like, yeah, I mean, your girlfriend who was an eight decided to dump you, right? And move on to a guy that's like a little bit uglier and maybe not as successful as you. But, you know, you bounce back with a 10. and you're living your best life. So, you know, you're not thinking about it as much.

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It's still enough to talk shit though, you know?

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Actually, they lost to FaZe, but didn't beat either of them.

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I wanted to ask you about the whole Spinks situation. Obviously, you can't go into detail what the issue is, and I don't necessarily... Well, you could.

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What I do care about is if you can sort of explain to the viewers how that impacts your game, how that impacts your performance as a team. What are some of the things... that you can't do as well anymore because things aren't really good when it comes to the relationships between the players.

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Vitality, for example, it's like a nice Grand Rapids, Michigan, American family, right? Navi is a little bit like a Serbian family, Eastern European family, whatever.

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And if you know that, then you don't take it as badly. Because, yeah, you fucked something up and, you know, you should be criticized about it a little bit. But you know that he's not, like, going full out at you. It's just sort of getting the frustration out so you can keep going.

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But you guys were winning too much and you always had a game to play and you didn't have the time. Which is same here, I guess, but now you have more days off. More days off, yeah, true. So you had some time. But that's Blue Phoenix you're talking about.

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So he's definitely going, you know, about to have an amazing career, as does everyone once they leave NIP.

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The life of a player. I was ready for Connector Mirage, baby. I was going to call everything. I was going to frag out and then they sent me on B. So that's life.

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You can't make up for skill as easily maybe as you could in CSGO.

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You ever play FPL with Shiro?

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I was wondering how that experience would be like.

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I loved this point last night when I heard that.

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I had a... Because they were talking about, I think, maps are CT side, T side. Yeah, we were talking about train. And I said, I don't think...

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in in mr12 in cs2 really maps are ctt side i think everything just depends on the economy yeah because you know like the beginnings as well yeah i mean just okay the start in the pistol but it's like okay anubis is t-sided in just theoretically the way the map works

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But if you start T-side and you lose pistol and you force and you lose that and you get reset one more time, you're probably not going to win that T-side, right? So I think just with the extra smoke and breaking the smoke and all of that, I think it all depends on the economy and who has the momentum, no?

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Because you had, like, yesterday Liquid played Eternal Fire on Train. Ultimate didn't even buy the AWP. T-sided, right? Because on T-side... How many picks can you go for, really? Yeah, because saying... But the point being is you were talking about the game is more scrappy and everything. Even on a map like Train, a guy doesn't pick up the AWP. So you don't really need...

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that whole, you feel like you can still make plays with the... But imagine talking to Train about this.

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I would tell, you know, to players, like if you're doing that and you just throw a defensive smoke, like it's a random smoke in the site that they don't...

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can pre-fire pre-angle pre-swing it sort of and then you can just have a fight coming your way because once people are executing they're not shoulder peeking you right like they're just swinging so you're getting easy fights if you're playing at the you know off position like that unless it's rops he's jiggling everything but he's jiggling really well yeah oh no because he was that what we we were doing a pro league season when he kind of first came onto the screen in mouse yeah and like

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We were all thinking it though.

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I think that's hilarious.

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If only they could back it up.

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well if we were out or if we lost or if we won you know yeah of course but this is everything so one opportunity to do something and it's back to the ground win or lose we booze a phase clan story wow that could be a chapter you're in the major with them yeah in the the one you lost the final no no after after boston the robin shit coach

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That's crazy that you win Katowice, Cologne and the major. Blade got it, right? Yeah. Blade got it.

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Different teams need different sort of coaches. It doesn't always have to be the most tactical.

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When you have Kerrigan as your in-game leader, right?

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When you have guys like... I don't know, Ropz, Broky on your team. And then on the other side, you have Reign and Kerrigan. These are completely different personalities.

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Yeah, you need to sort of get the best out of everyone at the same time. And they're not the same.

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he has one as well yeah he didn't apparently it's not an anime it's just he just liked the design that's what doc told me he's chopper just said something in russian and doc translated it i don't even know if that's what he said i'm with you flames you on this one right because when people do it people everyone dreads doing stuff with spirit and everything and that's that's their plan that's why they do it so you leave them alone right yeah i say we double down yeah like you have that slot and you have to spend time doing it i'm gonna talk to you for an hour i don't

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No, that's his nickname.

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The Doyle Rules.

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People turn around a lot at the airport when, you know, we're talking like, Yo, Moses. He's back, he's back.

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I don't care. I'm gonna ask you about what was your favorite subject in school? Like, you're gonna have to do this, so might as well make it good. That's how you need to approach it. This way, if they know it's just, you know, and you're gonna lose faith and you're gonna be like, oh, fuck these guys or whatever. Well, thanks for the questions. You know, like you have to be persistent.

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Come on. Can you tell us the truth? You just saw Golden...

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Jason can testify to that. It's so hard because, like, let's say... You don't know which word is really bad and which word is just bad.

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For some people, the stick works better than the carrot.

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I feel you, bro.

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But when I do it, like, here, I basically just do analysis live, sort of, you know? I just break it down a little bit. And I think what it comes down to, and these guys can say it as well, it's all about, like... telling the story of a round, right? Like, Counter-Strike is more than just the kills. Okay, that's what it comes down to.

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But, you know, how did Flamesy get in this position and all of a sudden he got two kills and, like, everyone is blind. So that's what you try to... Because even though CS is probably the easiest esport to follow and the game to follow, it's still about, like, understanding how it got into that position.

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so that someone who's like maybe an average player or a poor player of CES, when the round is over, they sort of know why this team won the round. Sure, it can be something as simple as Flames, yeah, the sick round killed three guys. Or it can be, well, actually, they out-positioned them, you know, with this utility, they confused them.

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And then if you're watching, you're like, ah, okay, so that's what happened. And everyone wants to understand sort of what's going on. It makes it easier to follow on a basic, even if it's on a basic level.

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mean there was the one with twists when twists was doing the calvita desk with us for the grand final or the semi-final a couple of years ago and it was overpass and he was just talking about how this one guy was like he was playing you know when you go out of monster as t and then on the right you can play this off angle yeah and he was just saying that the guy was like playing too shallow he was too shallow or too deep something like that like he wasn't so he it wasn't like a good position it like blew up everyone was you know talking about it's like oh

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oh yeah, this is what we're fucking missing. It's like, oh, it's like.

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What happened? they just left B in a 4v2 because they thought a guy could be flanking and they left B to check CT and the two players went B and won the two on train okay but I think it's also something that is like in a 4v2 in a map that are so far away from each other

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so i gotta we gotta start wrapping this up what's the time they have to i have a shuttle in 10 minutes but we'll so yeah to your boss to watch yeah no to end it i just wanted to ask you guys only lost one series this year you only lost to eternal fire oh yeah that's it all year so what is like what do you feel like is the main thing that could stop you from lifting the trophy here as well

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That's why people say, you know, you start going to the gym for the gains, but you stay for the mental health, right?

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Yeah, it does a lot for you. But it's interesting what you said about, you know, making plays. And sometimes that's like kind of what we, when we talk about games, say sort of playing not to lose instead of playing to win. But for you, it's probably also hard because, I mean, you have Zyvo on your team. You used to have Spinks. Now you have Robs on your team. Apex is in positions that are like...

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I mean, I'm still like in the beginning phase with just an eight week old, but... It does, you're right. My oldest was born during the pandemic and Ozzy was born like at the end of our show, or I guess like the end of that year that the show ended. And he was born into a slightly more normal world. And now she is just like, Yeah, it's like, you're right.

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Throw some corn on there and there's a well balanced meal for you. Tang corn. Tang sandwiches. That's such a dude. That's such a dude. That's such a dude move.

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The community, the camaraderie that you have with your friends. And I feel like my friends are all having their second kids now. So it's nice to at least be able to go through that with people.

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Oh my God. I think my favorite part, like, each season was, like, sitting down with you guys at the beginning of the season and you walked us through, like... Those were fun days, yeah. Yeah, and you were always like, do you want to hear what's happening with Kate? It's like we all were so invested in everybody else's story and...

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to a certain extent, like, it all factors into the work that we're doing anyway. It's like, you have to know kind of the big picture.

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Oh yeah, tell us that, because people are very interested in that. How did COVID and...

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Did you guys always know how Jack passed away? Was that something that Dan came to the table with? Is it something you guys decided in the room together?

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Wait, can we also talk about how much Justin

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What's the hardest part? Did you feel that responsibility of like, oh gosh, we've got to keep that propulsive energy going.

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So how do we just tell really great human stories with still those little- And I think like the audience was along for the ride and they really, we talk about this all the time. they very much trusted us and trusted you guys. Like, we're going to take care of you. We're going to like, we're going to land the plane. Don't worry. Like just stick it out with us. And they did.

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And I think that allowed for some of those like smaller storylines because people were so invested in these characters already.

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And it's like- Except Ken did the first batch. He did the first batch. And he almost died. Which is why we couldn't do it again. Yeah, correct. I just remember like, viscerally him on set, just like this. I mean, that was him all the time anyway.

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So like for next holiday season, sort of?

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Yep. It was the timeline. The timeline of the show.

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Yeah, can you tell us a little bit of like, how did you meet Dan and how did you guys get started?

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I'm curious too, when you're talking about breaking story and then giving specific writers or writing teams like particular episodes, how is that decided upon? Oh, that's good. Very good question.

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Did you guys ever, like, did anyone have to, like, fight it out for, like, specific things? Like, no, I really want to write the car episode. Tell us about violence.

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It all seems like they are doing well. Not to jump too far ahead, but like, what is... What is a big takeaway from the show? Like what surprised you that you guys came away with learning? Cause I imagine like for all of us, this was like quite a ride, right? And like, it's hard to sort of imagine like what a journey this was gonna be. And like, you guys always had to be

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20 steps ahead of all of us, especially like as performers, like what did you take away or like, what are you patting yourselves on the back now? Like two years removed, like, wow, we really, we accomplished that. We did that. And I'm going to take that with me to the next job.

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Only one guy in the entire league. Wow.

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Shoot. Goodness. It's probably a big man.

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Andrew, any guesses? Huh.

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That is correct, Dan, for two points.

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That's on the board.

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It's a lot of turnovers. 300 plus turnovers. 300 plus. But he's passing a lot. Somebody's got the ball a lot. Seven unique seasons with 300 plus turnovers. What about Rajon Rondo?

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as strongly now that they know jared mccain is going to be back for a potential playoff run yeah i mean he he and spurts here was their x factor right uh especially as a score working well next to maxi uh it's a shame that he's going to be missing the season but also makes sense given the fact that it's a knee injury so you want to give him that time especially as a young guy to like get back to full strength before pushing him in the postseason um

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The mustache got to go.

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I think one of the things that you got to be curious about is like the defensive side of the ball, because if he's if he's being asked to guard twos and threes, then that's trouble. You know what I mean? And so, yeah, I think the question you have read moving forward, it's like, yeah, he's an incredible shooter. I think learning from a guy like Fred Van Vliet is going to be interesting because.

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Smaller guy. Great off ball. Like spent a lot of time in Toronto being this off ball menace, too. So learning how to move without the ball, being a guy who I think grew into a good facilitator, has been a good facilitator for the Rockets now, too. All of those aspects is something that Fred can really help read with.

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So to your question, I think it just depends on the defensive side of the ball of if he'll stick.

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But as a guy who can just be a flamethrower, like you've got Peyton Pritchard on the Boston Celtics, who just is like probably going to win six man of the year this year. Just comes in and changes the game.

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So there's a role for that. There's value in that in the league. It's just figuring it out if he can do it in the NBA versus the G League. You know what I mean? Right. Peyton Pritchard been propping those guys up, too, by the way.

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In terms of them being a dark horse, I actually think the thing that's affecting them the most is Paul George not being what he's supposed to be. Truthfully, just not being as good as you'd hope he'd be when you signed him in the summer. In terms of being a dark horse, I think that's it, man. You've got to get Paul George to be the guy that you signed, and that will change things. But who knows?

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That's bizarre to me because one, he loves country, right? Would obviously love, you know, Tennessee and whatnot. But also I think like if his whole goal is I want to find my joy, I want to get back to playing basketball and play winning basketball. The Memphis has to be near the top of that list. If it's not just financially trying to get somewhere, it seems,

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Can anybody beat the Thunder in the West? I think if there are two teams that could beat the Thunder, I don't think it's the two teams that we saw tonight. I don't think it's the Houston Rockets. I don't think it's the Memphis Grizzlies for different reasons. I think Kelly pointed it out with the half court. Offense for Memphis right now, work in progress. They need to find something.

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Maybe it's making a trade. That's why they've been aggressive to go out and try to get a Cam Johnson, try to get a Dorian Finney-Smith. When it comes to Houston, I think it's youth. It's figuring out how you can execute and close out these games. You've got to take your bumps before you be able to face the Oklahoma City Thunder. The two teams that I think can...

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are the Dallas Mavericks if they're fully healthy and the Denver Nuggets with Nikola Jokic. That's the only two teams that I think could compete. And it's crazy to me to say that because I don't think the Nuggets have had a particularly good year. They've just been surviving off of what is an incredible Nikola Jokic season. But that still gives you a chance. That still gives you a chance.

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It's the belief in Jokic. Kelly, what do you think?

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Still a little bit of season left for him to turn it around. Yeah.

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Totally. Yeah. It felt like when the Cavs put the gas on the, you know, put the pedal on the, whatever you want to call it. Like they just were running away with things. Second quarter, it was Jared Allen just dominating. And then in the fourth quarter, it was Darius Garland just carving everybody up. I will say, I think that the Cavs need, need, need to have four All-Stars.

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Like, I think they have to have them. When you think about what Jared Allen has done this season as a rim protector for them, obviously Evan Mobley is going to get his first All-Star nod. Donovan Mitchell is going to get his All-Star nod. And the way Darius Garland has performed this season, the bounce back that he's had, we talked about, like,

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the growing process, the growing pains of what he had to endure last year compared to this year. He's an all-star. He is. I'm wearing an all-star shirt. You see the all-star shirt? Yeah. They need to have four all-stars this year.

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Yeah. And it will probably get up to that 15 when they face OKC.

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Why not get Bradley Beal? I don't hate the idea. By the way, should acknowledge that since he's come off the bench, he's been really good for Phoenix. He had 25 tonight, did a good job, has been scoring more efficiently, all that type of stuff. So maybe the benching does work out for the Suns. If it ends up becoming a trade, my question is, if you have to take on Bradley Beal,

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Why not pay to take on Zach Levine, who, in my opinion, is a better version of Bradley Beal right now? Because you get Zach Levine and obviously this is a situation with the Chicago Bulls and what they might have to do. You know, they've wanted to trade and shift in a different direction. Why not go for Zach Levine instead of Bradley Beal?

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If you're the Pistons, right, who just lost Jaden Ivey, who knows how long he's going to, you know what I mean? Go after Zach Levine.

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But also a no trade clause also.

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He's been struggling this year, and I think that's a big part of what I was watching tonight, too. He had an okay game, but overall, you look at the season that he's having, low points total, not shooting the ball well, like usual. He's usually a 41%, 42% shooter. He's shooting 35% from three this season, so the shot isn't falling.

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I know he dealt with a couple injuries to start the year, so maybe that's impacting how he's playing, but

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yeah but he just he doesn't look like he's engaged i guess offensively maybe maybe it's because jaron jackson jr is taking more of the load offensively being that guy you know he's incredible in the post i think he's on his way to like an all nba level season but i just don't see what bane has been doing to impact the game on the offensive end much so defensively so i think this is a big question for the grids moving forward it's like

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How much can you get out of Desmond Bain to be that third star for you if you're trying to be a contender in the West, right?

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That might be their best. I mean, look, I think there's been a lot of conversation about the Rockets defense on the perimeter with obviously a man Thompson, Fred Van Vliet, Dylan Brooks and those guys. But Shangoon does not get enough credit for what he's been able to do defensively. I think he's improved a lot.

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Like you think about the Shangoon over, you know, rookie season, Shangoon, second year, Shangoon, where it was like he was really struggling on the defensive end and part of the problem for them. Now he's part of the solution. Like, he is really doing his job as a rim protector, cleaning up things on the glass, being a great rebounder.

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Like, they're a great rebounding team, too, especially offensively. So this was sort of looking in the mirror for the Grizzlies and Rockets tonight because they're both great offensive rebounding teams. Both teams live in transition. Both teams tend to struggle in the half court, I feel. Yeah, and we saw that tonight, right?

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Like in the fourth quarter, it was defensive stop, defensive stop, defensive stop, defensive stop. No real solution. And I think in those moments, it's where you want Shangoon to take over and be that guy. I guess, Kelly, this is a question that I have for you, though.

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This is something that I'm really curious about because you see like a man Thompson breaking out, in my opinion, as a star, you know, going to be eventually a star. He was great over the last couple of weeks as well. Been doing great as a starter. Jalen Green is picking it up. Had a good game tonight. Shingun, obviously. Who is the best player on this Rockets team? Like, who's the best player?

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Yeah, the connection with him and the men is incredible. They're very good together.

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Yeah. The analytics differ from the reality. For real. Yeah. And you can get a really imbalanced or inaccurate picture of who the fan base is.

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It's my shirt and your shirt and my hat.

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Let me tell you something about this new store that opened up. It's called Lan or Lan Noodles. L-A-N.

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Connecting in Chicago for one hour. Yes.

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And I'm mostly like, what are you going to do with these Funko pop things? And he told me point blank, he's going to exchange them for RuPaul Funkos because RuPaul's are more valuable.

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he went to the and he was gonna he didn't have any cash he was gonna paypal me and i'm like I really thought he was going to stiff me.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And their livelihood. Yeah.

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That's what really got me. It got my ego. It's like, I'm going to trade this Funko in for RuPaul's because that is three times more expensive.

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You're not in queer media. You're not in queer media.

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Yeah, it's funny because, I don't know.

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No, I would be killed and I think I figured out the way to do it. Somehow, Art the Clown wanders into a drag show and I've got my Beyonce fan and it's like one of those really big, you know, industrial fans and it's blowing my human hair and it's so punty.

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It's one of those giant fails. It's hooked up to a generator.

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Like he goes, and then he pulls it back and like my nose is gone. And then my whole mouth and nose is gone.

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Is that the end?

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It depends on what time of the day.

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Okay. No, no, no, no. I think he's extremely handsome. Don't get me wrong. But he's like, is that Chris Pine versus Chris Evans type of thing? Like who would win in a cage match? Cage match being sex in your bedroom. Chris Pine versus Chris Evans.

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speaks to non-english speakers often and all the time you know what i mean absolutely absolutely at only otis in town i don't know um my friend smells really bad all the time god i tried to tell them but they brushed it off like it was a one-time thing how should i go about telling them without it seeming like an intervention this is actually a great question it's because i have a core memory i've said it a million times when the guy that i was fucking told me i stink like shit

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It really hurt. It stung bad. It snapped my fibula. Snapped. And it took a long time to heal.

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If they're big and fat, they got to get into them roles.

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Um, let's see. Okay. Uh, fuck, marry, kill the sandworm and dune. Eliza Sue, monstro, Eliza Sue substance or art the clown.

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I mean, I would fuck her, but that's the one night only type of situation. She's going to chunk off.

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Yeah. She didn't respect the balance. She's not going to respect our boundaries.

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Art seems to be okay.

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I love it so much. I love it so much. It's what I always wear in drag. And then out of drag, I love this, um, this one, this Italian thing, it's called Sturkus and it's Latin for shit.

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That's great.

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Oh, yeah. Can you please send words of motivation to those who want to get shit done? Just do one thing at a time.

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And I have a new boyfriend.

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It's cunty.

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I went to the Grove to get a new iPhone because mine broke and I went into Philip Plein and I bought $2,000 boots. And I'm so scared to wear them. They're just wrapped up in a box.

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Yeah. $2,000 boots. I went in for boy clothes. Girl. I didn't get any boy clothes. I just left with the boots. Very you though. Yeah.

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We really need to break that down. And you need to break it down with your partner. And then you really need to define it and you need to define exactly the emotions that are involved in a betrayal of that person.

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Kelly, get in here. Try putting this podcast on your living room TV. You will die.

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And they love that. No, I don't say it to them. Okay.

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You took off your blouse.

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Yeah, evil.

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So I went online and bought all these garments that are expensive because they gave me a budget.

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Oh, yeah.

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It was about building the atomic bomb in World War II. The man who like.

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No, I think it would be like, he would be like a drip. Like he'd be like annoying and like, you know what I mean? Like stuck up and like, are we okay? Yeah. He had hair.

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Oh, jump scare. What hair would you have? Sandy blonde.

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My old cleaner used to do a really good job, but I don't know if I told you this. Did I ever tell you that my cleaner just hit somebody in the garage? Love it. Hit somebody in the parking garage, hit a car, and the building manager had to send me a video and said, somebody from your guest spot backed into a car. And I said, that's weird. And let's say my housekeeper's name is Beth.

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I texted Beth and said, Beth's been cleaning for me since 2015. So Beth and I, I'm like, come on, girl. This isn't a veil of honesty, right? Is Beth without papers? Well, I think that that could have been part of it, which even so I'm like, Beth, I'm not going to sell you out, Diba.

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Right. She don't know that. I guess. Because every time you say you're like, hey, Beth. So I text Beth. I go, Beth, did you hit somebody in the garage? She goes, no. And I just send her the video. And then she goes, yeah. And I was like, oh, well, okay. Love that. I just felt bad because if she would have told me, I would have just covered it, which I did.

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When you have a condo building, if one of your guests does something, you are responsible for their action. So I just covered the $5,000. Yeah. Damn. Yeah. But then I just had to stop. I just felt the trust was kind of broken that I didn't get it. You know?

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So I got new housekeepers and they do an okay job, but Miss Beth went in.

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It's vinyl DJs playing records just no one knows and no one is listening to. And that's cool. Yeah. But I like it. Okay. But it's interesting that... LA embraces that because it's fun to go hear random real records that you probably never heard the music. Was music nice? Well, would I rather hear that or like blaring top 40? No. I'd rather hear that. Yeah. I want to hear something new. Yeah.

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You know what I don't get down with? They call it hospital corners when you fold beds. These are the hospital corners. I'm not trying to be restrained in my bed. Right, right. I don't... When you get in... My feet are... You guys, my feet are almost 13, men's 13s. And when they curl and... And I have to lay... They curl and curl. They curl and curl. Snapped feet. Yeah, cramped. Snapped feet.

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And when I'm jerking it in the hotel bed, I want to wiggle.

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I have to hook it up to truck chains on my car to drag the ends of the gut. You know... I'm traumatized because when Iggy Azalea and I did that thing once we went and we made some hotel beds together for like a, for Andrexi Motel. Iggy used to clean hotel rooms and she said that like 80% of the time people don't change the sheets.

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She said they'll take whatever wet towel from the bathroom, they'll pull back the sheet and go like this to like dust off with a semen or what have you. I am never staying in a hotel again. Yeah. And she says, you know, I, she says like the, she says there's, she says, she told me that you could not count the number of times she found like sex devices in the bed, like dildos and stuff.

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Well, you know, and come towels in the bed.

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Do you think you would ever have a boyfriend ever? Yeah. Do you feel like Whoopi Goldberg? I don't want somebody in my house. Remember that?

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Would you ever get a sleep apnea machine? I would love that.

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Yeah. I don't... I wonder if it's... You just snore. Everybody snores. Everybody snores. I wonder if it's hard for people to... sleep with those on, or if your husband or wife does, is that hard?

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But it made me think of these DJs walking around. If you're like a real vinyl DJ, you walk around with a giant crate of vinyl. Their cars are like, it's like they moved into their cars. It's crazy. In the DJ world, there's a lot of people that say that that's only like the real DJs. That's the only type of real DJing and they don't really respect otherwise. But that lifestyle.

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Well, experts say that anything between two and seven is an acceptable bracket to stop breastfeeding. Yeah. They said that that's... I think it's even two to nine. I looked it up one day.

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I think it's wild to be like, I got to stop by my kid's second grade class and give them milk.

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I guess I don't mean wild. I mean like, God, your life's going to be like... You might as well... You know what it's like in true blood when you're some vampire's human and you're just like waiting for them to bite the shit out of you?

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They have those little, um. No, they don't. No, they do. They have a, what do you call it? Lactation suites. They're like little pods, private pods. At which airport? A lot of them. Haven't you ever seen them? They're called like.

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People should just go breastfeed wherever, whenever they want. You don't have to go outside.

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The smoking chambers in these other countries, Italy, they're like smoking.

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What if you're like a New York with your crate of records on the train?

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Vaping is definitely corny. It's super corny. Very corny.

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I love everyone, but you look corny boots when you're somewhere and you pull out your thumb drive. You look corny boots. Would you rather do that or the carburetor? The carburetor. The rig. The carburetor. The rig, yeah. I mean, when I was on English Teacher, they had that MacBook Pro that I was smoking out of. Yeah, I love that shit. I couldn't even wrap my fingers around it.

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And now they have like finger indents. I'm like, do you need to grip the shit out of this? Imagine the grip. Imagine the grip. Can I tell you about the hangovers I had this weekend?

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I do. Because if we're saying smoking's corny, drinking too much and being hungover is very fucking corny. Being hungover is corny boots, bitch.

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Yes. It's like, oh, and then you're trying to eat and you have party pants. You're just like wet shitting. You're just wet shitting. Party pants? Oh yeah, just wet shitting. You're bloated. You're like, your face swells too, I think twice the size. Party pants? Party pants. You feel with shit. No, like you constantly feel like you have to go. You're like, your body's... I mean, listen.

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I have a vodka and I own a bar. I have a vodka and I own a bar, so I don't want to be a traitor to my cause. Because I think of a fun, lovely cocktail with the girls.

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Because you know what it is? I'm always the most hungover and I don't even drink the most. My body just loves to be hungover. Because you're gay. I guess... But gay people are allegedly good at drinking.

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And I have, you know, we've done those before the IV. You know, I'll text Jason. That's like my most humiliating experience. indulgence is being hung over and texting the nurse. Like you're literally like Gwyneth Paltrow in and contagion. Yes. I just need to, and I don't know. I don't know what, I think it was just the fires, everybody being off work, the inauguration.

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Everything was very YOLO lately. And I think, you know what? We're supposed to be doing dry January. And what is it? The 18th today? A little behind on that shit, aren't I? It's the 20th. I got 10 more days to do dry January. But I don't think you can really make a- Well, now it's going to hang over into fab. I got a rollover plan.

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cutting corn i know i know february was it three weeks yeah and then also you know i didn't love being terribly um i didn't love being um too skinny for so long but i certainly do love to get bloated with my alcohol and eat a lot of food girl there's something one drink a drunk one drink i'm like oh we're getting mcdonald's oh we're getting taco bell oh we're doing it all

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Last night I had a, I'm a vegetarian, last night I had a McChicken, a cheeseburger, and french fries, and a Diet Coke, and a shake. You got a Diet Coke? You like that shit? Love. I don't like normal Coke. I think that's so wild and crazy. Normal Coke's too thick, too syrupy.

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Delta work is going to come chop your little legs.

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Wait a minute. It was so incredible. Are you watching drag race? I'm not either, but I love to get the clips on the internet and I don't know her name, but this one girl, this is really fierce. This okay. Everybody's being mad in the comments. Cause this one girl, I don't know who they are. This one girl goes to this other girl.

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Hey, I know we're like lip syncing and I just want to let you know, like, I'm pretty confident and I'm sorry. You're going to go home. It's such a country thing to say before the lip sync is like girl diva. Normally they have your headphones in and you're like, we're in this together. I love you. This girl was like, like you're going to go. Cause I'm like, I'm me. So it's pretty country.

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I don't know.

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I'm me. Damn.

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Kennedy, what? I had a guy. She just, I pray for her body. All the girls, you know, I got drunk. I mean, like from what she puts her body through. Okay.

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Oh, the one where it cracks, the glass cracks and the robot like looks in the sphere.

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When she like backflips off a stage, I'm like, oh God. I know.

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What I did the other night was drunk. I was in a group and we were doing that gay thing where you like, let me show you this. Let me show you this. And somebody handed me their mountain. Like, show me some of the drag that you like watching the videos. And I go, okay. So what did I bring up? I brought up... Pickle surprise? No, I brought up like... Oh, I brought up detox doing mannequin.

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Yeah, that's great. Because I thought if you're like a straight person, they would love this.

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Yeah, yeah. Okay. Maybe I have seen it. Boy, you must have seen it. Barbara, please. Please, Barbara. Well, then we watched RuPaul and SNL designing women.

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Yeah. Just like the spirit. Have you seen it at night up close? It is cool.

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And then we watched when she's at the library reading. And RuPaul goes, Eloise, girl, bye. And puts the book down. So fucking funny.

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Anthem of Literacy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's funny. Great number. Great number. Great number. You did great. And then also we were watching, I watched, I wanted to show them your number of like, to be a survivor and they made whatever.

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Your Christian number? Christian number, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I looked it up from the season seven premiere. Oh my God.

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And you're in this short wig with the teased outsides, which I think I made. I think I remember doing that.

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And you came out in this robe and then you take it off. Girl, I haven't seen you do like that. First of all, when we were younger, you are so... stretchy.

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It's cool.

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The legs straight the fuck open.

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What's harder, the one leg out, one leg out, or both legs apart?

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They love to do sex. I worry about gay people. Like I'm not, you know, I'm not conservative per se, but lately gay people, sexual behaviors on the internet lately. I'm like, what do you think? Whatever happened to Amanda? Kiss and hug. I mean, whatever happened to kissing and touching. I don't happen to kissing and touching, kissing, touching and loving and hugging.

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Maybe those people are having that type of sex. They're just not filming and putting the internet.

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Yeah. It's not, that's probably what it is. It's not fear factor. It's not fear factor.

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And I know we all want to see the load in, in porn. We want to see the cum come out of the, out of it, into the mouth. I'm trying to keep that shit airtight so my taste buds don't get activated. You know what I mean? The mouth open, taste buds come to the mouth looking straight at the camera. Not to mention, your facials make me laugh.

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Yeah. These famous DJs make so much money.

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The eyelids try not to blink because you're going to get the cum in the eye.

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Oh, not me, girl. Call me the babysitter because I'm taking your kids.

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Call me CPS because I'm taking them kids.

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Guess who's jealous of applesauce?

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The wall is graham cracker. Yeah, graham.

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into it very into it i've seen some drag that i really like on the internet i feel like we're in this era of post drag where now all the numbers are like um subverting the expectation of the drag performance being glamorous uh-huh so like i told you that the girl that girl i love to did since you've been gone and just walked out of the club and got in her car and drove away

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And the people are watching like, where? And she just is getting in her car, starts it. And in her wig, hangs her head out the window and like lip syncs, driving away down the street and left the club. She just went home in the middle of the night. I was like, this is awesome.

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Have you ever seen that clip of Aja? This is like right before Drag Race. Aja in New York doing that one like robot number in the club. Oh, she's tweaking out like someone's printer trying to like connect to the Bluetooth. It's just fucking crazy. It's like Judy Jackson. I don't know if she does like.

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But I think if you're a DJ and you're fucking playing the sphere of it, like love that.

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She's every, can I, you know, you're either a fan or you're bitter with Violet. Like either you kiss the ring or you're bitter. Yeah.

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Like, it was like crazy. Do you know what I would look like? I recently watched the Tiny Desk concert from Sesame Street. Sesame Street did Tiny Desk. And it was all these little puppets and then Big Bird. That's what I would look like. Just big and yellow. Yeah. Have you prayed today? It was crazy. You know, I love Tiny Desk. I love the Wicked one, not to be a fag.

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Yeah.

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I have to tell you two other drag things that I saw that I loved. You know, Madame Lequeur, friend of the pod. Yeah. She did a number. She was doing on that ABBA song, Lay All Your Love On Me. Don't go wasting your emotion. And she's doing the men's part. And she kind of has like a dress on with a bald head. You know, she's bald, famously bald. Remember that picture of all of us bald in a row?

The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya

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Oh, yeah. Were you there? No. Yes. I don't know. Okay. It's like me, you, Bob, Madame Lequeur, like bald.

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Madame Lequeur. She's doing lay all your love on me. And there's like a men's part and a women's part. And she's bald doing the men's part. And then she bends down and comes back up and has a huge wig on a reverse wig reveal. I love that. They're seamless. And then it was women's voice. Then she's doing the women's parts. And she literally was like, down, up, huge wig. And I was like, oh.

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Incredible. Love that shit. Reverse wig. That's crazy. Reveal. What else did I see that I loved? Oh, this is like maybe from Tid Todd, but did you see on Fox News? They accidentally put, it was like TikTok ban. And they accidentally wrote, Tid cock.

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Well, you're going to have to ask whoever, did you look up who it is? What is it?

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Accidentally. Tit cock. But I just have to say to this other, um, it was, you know, that song, um, I'm working late cause I'm a singer espresso by, you know, Miss Sabrina Carpenter.

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Right, right, right. So then she says, uh, this drag queen has the long hair on and she's singing, I'm working late cause I'm a reveal short hair. single mom who works too hard. And then she picks up a rag and a spray bottle and starts cleaning the windows in the, in the club. Love that shit. It's so fierce. I think he was a drag race queen. I know that's horrible.

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Okay. But if you see her on a date, you know, surprise, you know how she really feels about it.

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Well, the reason why I don't, I mean, I'm DJing, I'm lip syncing from the nipples up, which is a lot easier than being front and center.

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No, you're not. No, you're not. I'm LaToya Jackson. Well, thank you for joining us today. Hey, listen, if you are a man or a woman, good for you. And you know, it's the day of the inauguration as we film this. I just want to say, Hamburglar. I'm not going to say it gets better because that turned out to kind of be a lie. That whole thing, right? At least the Hamburglar showed up.

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Straight? Well, I do think straight dance music is very different. It's very different than... The gay DJs and the gay music is fun. And I guess I like the music to be fun. You know? Can I tell you what happened to me yesterday? Sure. Okay. So this is crazy. Not that crazy. It's a good story, though. So... Okay. Saturday night, I went to this new bar in West Hollywood called Roosterfish.

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It's cunty.

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It's really cunty. You know what it is? She was like at the end of her retail shift and her boss said, we're going to need you to stay late to do inventory. She's like, It's like, what the fuck about this inauguration? I don't care about these kids. I want Christmas. Fuck.

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I've been so focused on him, unfortunately, that when I saw her walk in, I kind of forgot that she's going to be first lady again. And I have to laugh.

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And this very nice young DJ came up and was tall, handsome, started talking to me. And we were talking about music. Yeah, I was like, I love the music you're playing. Great. He goes, don't you have a gig tomorrow? And I go, yes, I do. He said, I'm going to come to the gig. I said, okay. So then I'm playing last night at the high top Los Feliz. I don't know. Right. It depends on who you are.

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Los Feliz Maguire. Yes. And so I'm playing and I look up and I see, Oh, that's that tall, handsome DJ. So I go and I give him a hug and I go, Oh my God, you did come. I said, I'm playing some of the music you played last night. I played that million dollar bill, Frankie knuckles remix. I said, I played, you know, that Heidi Montag song. I said, I'm playing all of this fun music that you played.

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I hope you have fun tonight. He's like any studio for, for, for copyright infringement. No, no, no. He was like, yeah. Um, he was like, okay. And I thought, is he mad that I'm playing some of the same music? Cause when you go hear a DJ, you, you, you hear music you like and you go play it. That's what we do. And I talked to him again later and he goes, do you want to get it? Do you want a drink?

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I said, yeah. You know, how's the, you like the music? Yeah. I was having some, and I was talking to some DJ shit and he's like, yeah. Okay. So then later in the night he comes up and he goes, I like the music. And I said, thank you. He goes, I have to tell you something though. I'm not who you think I am. I'm not a DJ. I don't know what you're talking about.

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And I went, Oh, that's why when I was talking about the music, you were like, okay, what? He goes, I don't know who you think I am. We met at the suit supply at century city mall. I was like, Oh, no. I was like, I was like, I've been coming up to you.

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And I said, I feel a lot better about some of the mistakes I've been making tonight. Cause I thought you were like here to critique me. I was like, I thought he was going to be like, yeah, honestly, I got to tell you, don't steal my shit again. He was obviously very nice and too nice to tell me right off the bat, what the fuck are you talking about?

The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya

Finding Balance Through Dialectism & Chicken with Trixie and Katya

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So what happened today?

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Well, you know what we talked about on one of the live shows? We said that maybe this is the year of equity and we make it the Katya and Trixie program.

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Finding Balance Through Dialectism & Chicken with Trixie and Katya

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Right now, it's very up in the air. The Trixie and Katya?

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what's with the attitude what happened you got out the wrong side of the bed you guys it's just not it's not the day fat nasty broke career in shambles I walked in and came on this mic mad as hell can I be honest I was mad as hell this is how I know you and I have synergy because when you're I came in ready and excited to film and I think there's something in the universe where both of us at any given time cannot both there can only be one it's the substance respect the balance yeah

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You've been watching TV like that? Yes. So she comes over and she's, you know, we're watching Amelia Perez and she goes, This is your sound. Mama, you need a soundbar. And I was not to be a fag, but I was like, it's going to look weird in this room. It's going to be like a big black bar or whatever. And so you can hide that shit. The next day, JBL. Hello, JBL.

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If you're watching JBL sent me a 1300 X for my living room soundbar woofer and little speakers for the corner. Yeah.

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hooked that shit up mama lit it was like butterfly in the sky it was like the sphere it was it honestly felt like i was watching television for the first time i'm telling you thank you joanne barbara leslie whoever at jbl sent that to me i looked it up it's 1300 i really appreciate it because that you said you need a soundbar you need a woofer and the next day i got one as a gift so maybe you're psychic maybe i don't know but i've had my sonos thing for a grip

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A grip? A grip? Honey, that's a grip. That's a long time. Imagine the grip. Imagine the grip.

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Can I say, but that girl, this girl, I love her. I'm going to say at care by Kara. Oh God. I follow her.

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I like it too.

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Well, this is what I thought. Don't trust them. First of all, people in the comments say mean things about how she looks, which I don't fucking get down with. Right? No. But imagine the grip is pretty amazing though. Somebody commented, imagine the grip because she is extremely physically fit. Yes, he is. Yes. Yes.

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And it's a crazy thing to comment, but like we were on a plane and I opened the comments and this, this girl, she's her whole MO on the internet is to suggest healthy alternatives to foods. So if she's like, you like Lay's potato chips, these have less sugar and less this. As far as toxic presence on the internet, she has nothing.

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none like that's a pretty nice thing to do for the world trolls she has many and she doesn't give a fuck people comment mean shit to her and she's just like have a good day yeah i love that yeah so the more i watched her the more the more i'm like oh wow she's right hydrogenated flower okay what like i'm like there is wild shit in food but but what were we talking about

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At Best Buy? Girl, you will get like... Hundreds of dollars back you can use on batteries, whatever. I didn't want a dead baby. Well, why'd you come to Best Buy?

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No.

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Can I tell you what I've been doing? Drinking a lot. I don't know if you have any experience kind of overdoing it with substances.

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When I go to the Hollywood Reservoir, I always walk by your house on the way down. And I'm always like, there's that beautiful house.

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I had my little DJ gig last night, and I came home a little drunk, and Stopped at a straight bar. Was walking home from the bar and stopped at a straight bar. What, to heckle them? I didn't know anyone. Stopped at a straight bar with my little group. Wait, was it a straight bar? With straight people. And then, of course, LA loves this. It's vinyl DJs. I think you're screaming. Sorry.

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Good joke. That's a good joke.

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What are we going to do? Hey, Bellatrix, how about a toothbrush? How about that?

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Oh, yeah. The dude's dirty. Yeah. Oh, I'm watching. Terrible trouble.

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I'm going crazy now.

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Yeah, just fucking...

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Dude, you have a poor redhead.

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You better not cry. You better not pout. I'm telling you why. Santa Claus is coming to town. Santa Claus is coming to town. Santa Claus is coming to town. Yo, that was a good Santa, bro.

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That was incredible.

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Are you going to commit to that $40 million house you sent me earlier, or a $40 million house? I don't know how I'm paying for that, with IOUs? Das passiert nicht. Du zahlst niemandem. Jeder zahlt dir. Ich habe 40 Millionen Dollar. Ja, das ist okay. Erinnerst du dich, als ich postete, weil es ein Artikel gab, das sagte, hier ist Joe Santagras Network. Es war wie 293 Millionen Dollar.

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Und ich postete es. Und ich war einfach so, Dan, sie haben mich getroffen. Und Leute, die ich in der Realität kenne, waren so, yo, congrats. Und ich war so, bist du ein Idiot? Du bist ein Idiot. Ich dachte, ich habe keine 293 Millionen Dollar. Kann ich dir eine ernsthafte Frage stellen? Oh Gott.

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#478 - The CORN Episode

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Wenn du 293 Millionen Dollar hättest, ich weiß, du bist, du bist, viele Leute wissen es von dir, du bist groß mit Disziplin, du möchtest intern sehr selbstdiszipliniert sein. Okay. Und du bist sehr klug mit deinem Geld. Du gibst immer finanzielle Hinweise an die Leute, die du in deinem Leben genießt.

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#478 - The CORN Episode

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Auf welchem Niveau von Geld würdest du das alles aus dem Fenster werfen und dich einfach nur zu einer verdammten Dumpster-Bitch vertreten? Aber was ist eine verdammte Dumpster-Bitch? 30-Millionen-Dollar-Haus, wo du, um in dein Bett zu kommen, einen Ferris-Wheel nehmen musst. Like, I'm talking like... Alright, I'm going to bed. Yeah. I mean, a 30 million dollar house. I'll tell you this.

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You would probably need at least 300 million. Your watch collection would know no bounds. That would be a big issue. That would be a big fat issue for sure. Yeah, no. I mean, I don't know. A part of me, because I do like looking at that type of content, like seeing rich people's houses, and then it would be a random whoever who owns a $40 million house in the Hamptons and all that shit.

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Big fucking big business balls boy. No. Well, he does. Yo, bro, this kid the other day, he sent me four in a row. I called him. I said, what are you doing? Because like one of them is just like, he'll start talking like, oh, I fucked this up. I have to redo this. Und ich bin so, warum sagst du das so laut? Und dann sendest du es mir. Also rufe ich ihn an und ich bin so, was machst du?

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#478 - The CORN Episode

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I like looking at that stuff, but in reality, I'm like, what the fuck would I do with a house like that? Dude, I've been watching a lot of Shark Tank and I saw like an interview with Mark Cuban and he was just like, I bought a 25 million dollar home and there are rooms I have not been in in years. Yeah. Why? Like that is wild. Like there is a certain level of like over the top.

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Like that's ridiculous. I would, if I had 300 million dollars, I'm sure that I would find a really nice house, but it wouldn't, I don't think it would be 30 million, like it would be less than that. I feel like a 5 million dollar house would probably be where like... Depending on where it is. If I had 300 million dollars, I'd say 5 million is going into a house, and then I would have...

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A couple five million dollar houses across the country. I would be more, I think I would pay more to be like in a gated community of like safety is kind of what I would pay for at that point. Yeah, that makes sense. Because I don't need a fucking 30 million dollar apartment. Like that's crazy.

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Yeah, to be in a skyscraper where you are basically just like there's one like underpaid doorman who is just protecting you from whoever wants to come up. Ja, so etwas wie das würde ich nicht machen. Aber ich würde dumme Sachen kaufen. Ich meine, als ich angefangen habe, wirklich gute Geld zu verdienen, habe ich 3.000 Dollar in einer Arcade-Maschine verwendet, die ich verwendet habe.

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Nein, du hast viel verwendet. Fünf Mal. Du hast es wahrscheinlich mehr verwendet, als ich. Ich habe es wahrscheinlich verwendet. Und ich habe es weggegeben. Zu? Ein Kind, das auf dem gleichen Block wie meine Mutter lebte. Haben sie es noch?

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#478 - The CORN Episode

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Ich habe nicht Tabs auf seinen Sachen. Ich werde ihn fragen, ob ich es mag. Das war eine coole Arcade-Maschine. Das war, übrigens... 3.000 Dollar? Du hast das im Jahr 2016 gekauft. Ja. Das ist zu viel. Oh, es war. Zu viel. Und ich weiß nicht, ich denke, ich wollte einfach etwas bekommen. Und es hatte nicht... Ich dachte, was zur Hölle? Es hatte nicht Super Mario Bros. drauf.

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#478 - The CORN Episode

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Es hatte nicht... Und es hatte nicht die Big Name Brand Games drauf. Es hatte Frogger drauf. Es hatte Frogger, es hatte Galaga und es hatte... Hatte es Galaga? Alien Invaders. Aber... Es gab keine Super Mario Bros. oder Donkey Kong. Es gab Donkey Kong 4 Does Math. Und 1942 Part 6, wo es so ist, du bist ein Tank jetzt.

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#478 - The CORN Episode

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Nur die Spiele, die niemand spielte, die sie ermutigen konnten und auf diese Sache kommen konnten, ohne legalen Aktionen zu treffen. Yeah, I don't know. I just got that because I was like, oh, I'm going to get something cool. And I think back then I just didn't, I didn't, I didn't even know what I liked as a person yet. So I was, I don't know how, bro, I don't know how I thought of that.

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Or I just thought like it would be cool for people to come over and be like, oh, there's an arcade machine here.

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Frank. That was almost a fucking decade ago. I know, isn't that crazy? Eight years ago. We're a thousand years old. Yeah, and we're slowly falling apart. I just woke up this morning and my ankle hurt. I've done nothing. I've done nothing.

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#478 - The CORN Episode

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Wir haben die Kunst der Kommunikation verloren. Und du bist Teil der Grund, warum ich so wütend bin, weil du das tust. Außerdem, ich werde zu dir antworten und dann wirst du die Antwort machen, wo du auf iMessage, wo du die Botschaft unterhalten und du es einfach hart machst. Das ist keine Antwort, Joey. Es hängt von dem, was du sagst ab.

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#478 - The CORN Episode

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My teeth hurt sometimes. I wake up, my teeth hurt. I think I'm grinding those motherfuckers.

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I don't know. Teeth. My neck. My back. Pussy and my crack. Frank, demonetize.

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Fuck. Porn, you idiot. Watch it. What are we calling... Badussi. Das muss viel schlimmer sein. Ich weiß es nicht. Also ist es Korn. Und das? Unerwachsen. Kittycat. Miau Miau Fun Time Wet Cave. I'm not using that. I'm not using that. Too many words. Alright, wet cave. Speaking of corn, by the way, did you hear about, did you hear, you know, like, Ariana Grande, the Wicked movie is coming out?

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#478 - The CORN Episode

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. You must be excited for that. I'm hyped, bro. Yeah, you're gonna go see it? I love Wicked. I've seen zero things, heard zero songs. I've never, never been a consumer of Wicked. I've just seen, I've seen on TikTok, I don't, I wanna, I don't know the other actress's name. Cynthia Erivo. Cynthia Erivo. Aber ich habe sie interviewt. Sie weinen einfach. Sie weinen immer.

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#478 - The CORN Episode

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Aber ich mag es, wenn Leute weinen. Für einen schönen Grund. Ich will etwas fühlen. Joey setzt seine Hand auf den Puls und will, dass Leute weinen. Ich mag es, wenn Leute so glücklich sind, dass sie weinen. Es gab einen Unternehmer, der sehr schöne Dinge über sie sagte. Sie sagte, ich möchte, dass ihr wisst, dass ihr es gemacht habt. Und sie beginnt zu weinen. Und ich bin so... Fuck!

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#478 - The CORN Episode

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Ich habe gesehen, dass diese ganze Presse-Tour für den Wicked-Film nur Ariana Grande und Cynthia Erivo für einander weinen. Und dann andere Leute, die sie weinen. Ich habe ein Interview gesehen und es war... Das ist Theater, Baby! Verdammt! Ich vergesse den Namen der Schauspielerin. Aber sie war in den Mean Girls-Musicals und ich denke, die Musik... René Rapp!

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#478 - The CORN Episode

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Und sie macht Cynthia Erivo weinen und dann weint sie. Perfekt. Und dann ist es einfach so... Jeder weint. Ich bin auf der Bühne mit einem guten Weinen. Ich auch. Aber nach einem bestimmten Punkt ist es einfach so, promote den Film. Ja, ja, wir weinen viel. Nein, aber ich dachte, es war cool. Aber ja, ich bin super begeistert von Wicked. Definitiv muss man das sehen. Und... Ist das, wo das Lied...

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I've only known the TikTok-Song version of it, but is that where it comes from? Defying Gravity. I've never heard that song in my entire life.

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I'm defying gravity. I've heard that, and then I don't... You've never heard Defying Gravity? I unfortunately have not.

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of the earth. Leave the planet. Like spiritually, like unaliving? Not unaliving, I mean launch yourself into space and whatever happens, happens. Also for good? That's a banger! Can I ask you a serious question? Do you have Apple Music or Spotify? Spotify. How quick is that album going directly on your Spotify? It's pre-ordered. Yeah. Alright.

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It's not pre-ordered, but I have Defying Gravity on my running playlist. Really? Bro. It helps you? If you listen to it? Vor dem Ende des Songs, wo sie unsere Klamotten und alles gesehen haben. Ich glaube, ich muss da rein. Es ist lustig, ich poste es auf TikTok. Und die Leute sind so, Frank mag Hamilton. Und es ist so, hast du nicht any of this show gesehen?

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Frank wird nicht auf Hamilton aufhören. Ich bin mir ziemlich sicher, dass er das Show machen kann. Ich habe bis jetzt die ersten sechs Songs gut gelesen. Ja. Aber ich glaube... Du musst gehen. Ich werde dir Tickets kaufen. Und du wirst gehen. Danke, das wäre süß.

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um because i'm sick of this are you gonna babysit the kids no oh we're gonna figure that part okay everybody's going oh the whole kids are going no they're not too expensive miles he would really get a kick out of that out of hamilton yeah i think so i don't know that we were in the car one day and he's like kiki do you mind if i play dj he probably would respect you less if he saw how excited you were during the song no he he enjoys it we were in the car one day he's like in the crowd

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Ja, weißt du. Was zur Hölle hast du gerade gemacht? Das sah wie Choreografie aus. Ja, vielleicht. Wir waren in der Fahrt eines Tages und er war DJ und er sagte, ich habe eine Song für dich, die kommt nachher. Ich sagte, ich bin so begeistert. Er hat die King-Song gespielt, du wirst zurück sein. Feuer. So krass, Alter. Banger. Das ist eine der besten Songs. Ich muss auch zu einem Punkt kommen.

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Aber der Wicked-Film kommt raus und sie haben natürlich Merchandise, die sie ausbauen und so. Warum hast du Merchandise gesagt? Weil ich sagen wollte, Merchandise.

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They've merchandised Dyson Vacuums. No, but the Wicked movie is coming out. They have merchandise. And then they have these like dolls or whatever. And on the packaging, they put wicked.com, which is not the right website. Wicked.com is, hello, corn. Wait, what? Corn. Yeah. I'm gonna go. Wicked.com, corn, baby. I'm not talking corn. You're not talking corn. I'm talking corn.

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You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You're not talking the corn you eat sideways. You're talking the corn you eat long ways. Exactly. So the corn... What am I saying?

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So this is wicked.com. This just looks like it's... Well, no, no. This is definitely corn. But it's like movie corn. Weißt du, was ich meine? Ich werde ehrlich sagen, dieses ganze Korn gegen Korn-Ding, es ist ein bisschen verwirrend. Es ist ein bisschen verwirrend. Es gibt keine Futterkorn. Es ist nicht so, dass ich, wenn ich auf deinem Bildschirm schaue, nichts groteskes sehe.

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Ja, es gibt nichts, aber, weil, schau, sie haben eine, sie machen Movie-Posts, wie etwas, was das Asylum machen würde. Yeah, like this one's called Reckless and the poster looks like Fast and the Furious, but it's a Korn. So I'm assuming they're racing cars and... Wait, why would you call a knock-off Korn version of Fast and the Furious Reckless? Call it deep and moist.

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How is that a play on words? Rapid and sensual. There's so many better... Those so far are both worse. The ass is curious. What does that... What does that even mean? Starring Vin... Vin Gasoline. Because he pumps you full of gasoline. Okay, you... This gets horrible. It's crazy. This one says Blast from the Past. That's a pretty good... I think it's a real movie. Oh, it's about... What's the one?

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Michael J. Fox. Back to the Future. Oh, I thought you were saying, like, someone in it has, like, Parkinson's. No, no, no. No, Blast from the Past. I think Blast from the Past is a legit movie. Is it? Unless I'm mistaken. It's starting, like... Well, he's got a flannel and a vest on, so I assumed it was... Ja, es ist wahrscheinlich Blast from the Past.

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Oh, wenn du nach unten scrollst, ist es... Ja, Blast from the Past. Es sind Brendan Fraser und Alicia Silverstone. Ich wusste, es war ein echter Film. Hat er eine Videokamera? Christopher Walken ist in dem Film, also ziemlich nah an sensuell zu sein. Ja. Ein naiver Mann kommt in die Welt, nach 35 Jahren in einem Nuklear-Fallout-Schelter. Ich glaube...

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Well, these people make actual... Oh, nope, there's a girl spitting on each other. Now I'm seeing... Alright. That's different. See that? I mean, it just looks like their tongue is out. I don't see any... I mean, what's that? That looks like it is now... Their tongues are out and there's spit connecting their tongues. So this website was on the packaging to like... A doll, bro.

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Like... For the Wicked movie? For like, yeah. It's like Alphaba and motherfucking... Korn Website, right on the front there. How many kids do you think went to this website? I will say, this isn't a bad, this is not, I mean, it's not the worst Korn site ever they can go to. Which would be? I don't know, something xxdeepimpact.com or something, I don't know. So shit like that.

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It's also a movie, Deep Impact. My dad's favorite movie. My dad loves when the world ends. Deep Impact or Armageddon? Which one are you watching? Armageddon, dude. Steven Tyler, you know, Aerosmith. Are you kidding me? Bruce Willis? Liv Tyler? Don't wanna close my eyes? Animal Crackers? Matt Damon. Ben Affleck. Owen Wilson. Matt Damon ist nicht drin. Ben Affleck ist drin. Ja. Steve Buscemi.

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Steve Buscemi. Owen Wilson.

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Wir sind beide Leute, die unsere eigenen Leben haben. Manchmal sehen wir etwas und vergessen es. Nein, manchmal, ich werde es vollständig sagen. Manchmal sehe ich etwas und sage, ich werde darauf antworten. Und dann geht ein Tag vorbei und ich vergesse es. Und ich bin so, oh, fuck, jetzt ist es ein Tag.

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Michael James Duncan. Michael Clark Duncan. Michael Clark Duncan.

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A lot of people, this might be a little tidbit of trivia, one of our first videos we did together was pantomiming that song, like doing a performance of that song. You're on the drums and I'm on the guitar. Yeah. And you at one point actually hit a cymbal and it scared the shit out of me. There's a clip of that in the promotional tour before our first show. And I think during...

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Ich denke, es wird in anderen Prozessen benutzt, wie in Radio City, wenn wir... Oh, ja, ja, ja. Ja, schau dir das an, Mann. Warte, also waren die Kinder nur wegen Wicked, Korn aufzuschauen? Ja, Mattels Packaging für seine neuesten Dolls kam mit einem wickelnden Fehler.

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Der Link, der auf der Rückseite der Toysbox geprintet wurde, führte zu einem Korn-Grafik-Website, der Dolls über das Land beobachtet, um sie aus den Schalen zu holen. Big, big mess up, Mattel. Big mess up. Wait, what's the, I mean, there are certain conspiracy theorists in like the middle of West Virginia that are like, you think this is a mistake?

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Jetzt muss ich noch einen Tag warten, um zu antworten und zu sagen, ich bin sorry, dass ich das getan habe. But like, that's the way that the world works sometimes. But don't you dare, bitch! Bitch! Hold on. One time, me and Greg texted Frankie about something that had to do with business. Four or five hours? And then he responded back with, sorry, I got tied up at hockey practice. And I'm like...

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Balenciaga made the goddamn toys too. You think this is a mistake? And guess who's running it? Hillary motherfucking Clinton. That bitch is bad. That bitch is bad. Lock her up! Das ist verrückt. Du tust das nicht. Was ist der echte Website? Ich weiß es nicht. Oh, es ist wickedmovie.com

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That's a wicked movie. It sounds like a Boston website where you can illegally watch movies. Wicked movies. Or it's just like the most Boston person you've ever met that's like a movie reviewer. And they're just like, welcome back. I got my Cruella. I got my Duncan. We're gonna watch this wicked movie. Wicked movies. That just sucks. Yeah, not good. Not a good thing to be doing.

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So, you know, leave the pornographic stuff off the toys. Yeah. Oh, big lawsuit coming. Unless it's an adult toy. I will say this. I will say this. Whoever bought those dolls, they're like instantly collectors items now. Yeah, if you're a freak. I mean, people do that shit all the time. Also, if you're that website, you're probably like, where did all this traffic come from? Yeah. What is going on?

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Whoa, big uptick. Now we can make our next 10 Batman porn movies. You idiot. You're getting fined. Where it's called The Hung Man. I'm not good with my time. Frank, we can tell. We do have some sponsors for today. The Assvengers. Better?

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You better? Assvengers. You know? Yeah. Rock hard iron man. So we do have some sponsors for today. The first one is Kickoff. Aber ja, das ist ein smartes, legitimes Kredithack mit keinem Fortschritt, keinem Kreditscheck, gebliebenen Steuern oder keinem Interesse. Wenn dein Kreditscore unter 600 ist, könntest du in deinem ersten Monat 28 Punkte erhöhen.

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C-Geek ist die App, wo man Tickets für was auch immer kaufen kann. Ob man auf Broadway spielt, wenn man C-Wicked auf Broadway sieht, oder wenn man zu einem Sport-Event geht, wenn man zu einem Fußball- oder Basketball-Spiel geht, was auch immer. Ich benutze immer C-Geek.

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Ich liebe ihre Interface, weil sie dir zeigen, wenn du einen guten Preis für ein Ticket oder einen schlechten Preis für ein Ticket bezahlst. Schwarz-grün, bleib weg von dem. Das ist ein überpreist Ticket. Schwarz-grün, das ist sehr gut. Grün. Regular Green, also a good price for a ticket. So, I like that they're transparent in that way. But they have everything on there.

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Yeah, there's a lot of artists that are on tour right now, so you can go see them. And we're gonna save you some money. Everyone can use my new code, Joe15, for 15% off any tickets on SeatGeek, okay? Download the SeatGeek App, use the code JOE15 for 15% off of tickets on SeatGeek. Whether you've used it before or not, you should be saving 15%. It's right here.

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Not only that, when we go to hockey practice, I'm with Ruby and Ruby just runs back and forth and gets in an elevator and I need to fucking chase her. In an elevator? She's a big elevator kid right now. She just loves elevators? Dude, she loves elevators. I kind of like them too, I'm not gonna lie. Everyone had a good old fun time pressing buttons on elevators. Escalators? Fire. I love escalators.

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Vielen Dank. No long-term commitments or contracts or anything like that. So just go to stamps.com and use the code basement. Okay, so stamps.com, use that code basement for that four-week trial, free postage, free digital scale. Don't worry about commitments or anything, but save yourself some time and money with stamps.com. And go to patreon.com.

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Folks, if you guys are patrons right now, you would have known that Joe made a little baby announcement that is kind of crazy on one of our Patreon episodes a couple days ago, actually. So if you're not a patron, you're not sure what I'm talking about. But there's big old fat things coming your way. And who doesn't like that? Unless... Untertitelung des ZDF, 2020

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Und mit den San Agosto Studios, die jeden Freitag auf YouTube rauskommen. In Wahrheit, verpasst du uns wirklich nie viel. Also, wenn du uns magst und du willst, dass wir uns gut fühlen, weil das ist, was wir brauchen, deine Validierung, um sich wie Menschen zu fühlen, geh zu patreon.com.de. Ihr habt dieses Show zu unglaublichen Höhen gewachsen, für die wir so unglaublich dankbar und dankbar sind.

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And we are doing our best to pour that back into the Patreon experience. So go check it out. Get in there now. We want to keep climbing, keep moving so we can give you guys more of what's going to make you happy, laugh and all that fun stuff. So patreon.com slash TheBasementYard. Thank you, folks. I appreciate it. What do you think that lawsuit's gonna be? Big lawsuit. Big old lawsuits. Yeah.

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You know? Yeah, dude. Yo, you know what has just been inundating my feed lately? You ever seen Legal Eagle? Weißt du, wer der Legal Eagle ist? Legal Eagle. Legal Eagle. Eagle. Er ist wie ein Arbeiter-Influencer, der verschiedene Regeln und solche Dinge abschließt. Nein. Alter, ich fühle mich, als wäre ich jetzt in der Rechtsschule gegangen, wenn ich diesen Kerl schaue.

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Das ist übrigens der freieste der freien Plugs. Yeah, yeah. You know? When he just talks about like, here's the law. He's just like, oh, so-and-so is suing Joe Santagato. Let's break it down. And like, why? And he's just like, this guy's fucking... And it makes me... Because you know me. Yeah. Blind confidence that I can do anything with little to no training. Right. Or connection to reality.

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I now feel like I can be my own lawyer if I needed to be. Hopefully you dream about that tonight instead of shutting off your alarms. That was bad, dude. Yeah. Now I have to commit to... Like, what if my dreams tell me to like... Und dann gehst du nach Hause und isst einen halben Pund Bresciutto.

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Ich weiß nicht. Ich hasse diese Träume. Ich hasse diese Träume auch. Bist du bereit für Weihnachten? Oh, ja. Und das ist es. Weihnachten ist großartig, weil es ein primäres Scharkooter-Board ist. Du, wir machen, wir machen so ein kleines Ding an meiner Schwester's Haus. Für unsere Seite der Familie. Becca macht ein fucking Scharkooter-Board. Sie scharkootet die... Ja. Ja. Ja. Ja. Ja.

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I get scared of escalators. I'm now realizing it might be bullshit because my dad told this story. Tell us about this Colombian myth that he made up. I don't think it's a myth because there have been instances of this happening. He said that he saw someone's shoelaces got caught in the teeth of an escalator and it ripped their foot. Keine Ahnung. Ich meine, ich denke, das ist tatsächlich passiert.

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Wait, so what would go on a Greek charcuterie board? Du hast auch Früchte, weißt du? Du kannst Dates drauflegen, frische Fakes. Ich meine, du beschreibst nur eine Scharcuterie-Board. Was macht das? Griechische Käse. Feta? Feta, Kasseri, Kethelograviera. Oh, ich weiß nicht, was das ist. Genau. Einer von denen ist quasi wie ein Parmesan, aber es ist wie ein hartes, schmutziges kleines Scheiß.

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Es ist ein Dope? Es ist ein dummes Dumpf von einem Käse. Und es ist fucking fett und gut. Fett und gut. Whoa, dude, that's fucking crazy. You see what I'm saying now, right? By the way, charcuterie boards, I don't like the crackers usually. I don't mind crackers. Melba toast? What the fuck is that? Like bread? Oh, the little ones?

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But I don't like them when they're hard like croutons. I like them when they're crunchy, but then you bite into them and it's pillowy and soft. Like a good, like a good, like a good. Yeah, like that. But I don't like when I bite into this little piece of bread and it's like, oh, this hurts my teeth. Yeah, well, maybe just strengthen your mouth. It's not about strengthening, okay? They're bones.

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You do have a pretty baby mouth. What are you saying? Like it's sensitive. I have a sensitive mouth. Yeah. What's making you even say that? You always say, like, crunchy stuff bother your mouth. Like, you recently said, like, oh, Crunch Berries, like Captain Crunch and stuff like that. Captain Crunch is, like, infamously known for cutting people's tops of their mouths. Strengthen your mouth!

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Welcome back to the basement yard. Frank, how's it going? Living it up. Apple Watch. Is that a new Apple Watch? I've had this. I've had this for a while. Remember I threw it on stage when you gifted me the Rolex? That's right. This was the one I threw. I got it back. You picked it back up.

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I can't strengthen my skin! You know what it is? You haven't worked a day in your life. There's no calluses on those hands. And clearly there's no calluses on the roof of your mouth. You ever bit a bagel bite that just destroyed the roof of your mouth, bitch? Natürlich. Oder wie ein Hotpocket. Das ist verdammt gefährlich. Wie haben die nicht gesucht? Sie haben alle die Warnungen.

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Es ist wie ein Scroll auf dem Schlauch. Ich mag das. Ich mag, dass es in eine kleine Schlauchmaschine kommt, die du mitnehmen kannst und dann schlägst du es aus. Ich denke nicht, dass es dich ermüdet. Ich denke, es ist nur, dass du die Wärme even verteilen kannst. Nein, es ist, aber ich denke, das ist cool. Ich mag, dass es so ist.

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Es ist ungefähr das Zeitpunkt des Jahres, wo ich Hotpockets brauchen muss und meinen Abend zerstören muss. There's no part of the year where you need to have Hot Pockets. That's just something that you're telling yourself. Hot Pockets on a charcuterie board. Don't disrespect the board. Why? With a fucking Hot Pocket. Why not? Because. Also, I want to say something about Hot Pockets. Uh-oh.

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You gotta put more in here, Chief. More pocket in your hot. You gotta more... It's all hot and not that much pocket. No, well, the pocket needs to be stuffed. Stuff your pockets. Stuff your pockets, dude.

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I will say, Hot Pocket.

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Yeah, shove shit in there. You've got a pocket. Shove your whole shit in it. Fill the pocket. And we're not talking corn. Yeah, we aren't. We're talking just good old classic American ingenuity. Yeah. You give us a bread pocket, I'm shoving that thing until it's stuffed with meat. Also, like, you know how they always say that about bags of chips?

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We open up a bag of chips and you're like, bro, I'm paying for

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I'm gonna say this, Chips, you've had your chance. Fuck you. Goodbye.

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Lays, you're out, bitch. Fritos. They might be controlled by Lays. Wise, you're done, dude. Chips have been fucking around for too long. Honestly, you had your fucking chance, Chips. You're done. 2024, enjoy it. 2025 rolls around. Chips, you're gone. We should all take a page out of the book of Cotton Candy. Because if you ever open up Cotton Candy, right there. He's right there.

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Die Chancen, dass mein Vater es beobachtet hat oder jemanden gesehen hat, sind sehr niedrig. Das könnte wahrscheinlich zu Stuart Little passieren, aber ich weiß nicht über Hume. Aber ich meine, ich bin mit dir da. Ich mag es nicht, auf oder aus Eskalatoren zu kommen, weil ich immer aufstehe. Ich stehe auf. Ich stehe auf. Ich stehe auf. Ich stehe nie auf den Krack.

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They say, we have a bag, we're gonna shove 40 years worth of cotton candy into this little fucking bag. I could fill my pillow with the amount that fits in this amount of a bag.

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Wir haben Momente wie diese, wo wir so in Ordnung sind. Du bist so fucking gut, big business wise. Und ja, Chips, du bist fertig. Du bist fertig, du bist fertig, du bist fertig. Du bist weg, du hast deine Chance gehabt. Versteh mich mal, schade auf dich. Versteh mich zweimal, ich esse nicht noch einen fucking Dorito. Okay? Es ist Zeit, wie der alte Jäger, hinter dem Schatten zu gehen.

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Das ist das zweite, was in der Episode hinter dem Schatten getötet wird. Hat der alte Jäger in den Kopf geschossen? Ich denke so. Ich weiß nicht, was das ist. Ist das ein Hund? Ein Hund. Ich werde es dir nicht erzählen. Ich werde es dir für dich herausfinden. Kein Problem. What was I talking about? Getting cotton candy. Cotton candy and chips and shit, right? And gum.

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I haven't eaten a chip out of a bag in a while. I eat them out of bowls at like parties. But where do they come from, babe? Yeah, I know, but I'm like, I'm not seeing the bag. Because the bag angers you.

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There's no waste. Gums. Think of gum brands. There's no fucking jokes in a gum package. It's all gum, bitch. Listen, hold on. I do have a gripe with gum. Orbit. Vergiss Orbit.

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Ich nehme die ganze Innenseite. Du nimmst die ganze Innenseite.

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Du nimmst die ganze Innenseite. Was ist das?

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Ich bin... Was heißt das? Ich verabschiede den Anus. Und wir haben das jetzt gemonetisiert. Aber ich verabschiede den Packagel von Gums. Was können wir für Anus sagen? Das tut nicht leiden. Greg Louganis. Greg Louganis. Let me stop just destroying your Greg Louganis orbit. I don't want to do it. I'm a good... I'm a good man. I like order. I like law and rules and respect.

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I don't want to have to absolutely just let this thing have to just walk sideways for a week.

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Also, I'm the type of person. Ich liebe kleine Dinge wie das, um nett zu sein. Und jetzt forcest du mich, es aus dem Mittelpunkt zu nehmen.

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Aber ich ziehe es nicht von der Seite. Weißt du, was ich liebe? Und du wirst, ich hoffe, ich hoffe, lieber, lieber, lieber Gott. Bist du zu einem Herrn gebeten? Endlich. Bitte, hoffe, dass er mit mir an Bord ist. Ich trinke nicht. Du weißt das. Ich habe nie eine Zigarette getrunken. Du hast nie eine Zigarette getrunken. Nein. Ich sage dir das.

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Als Sofia Gigante das Metallkasten öffnete und es da coole Zigaretten drin waren. Oh! Almost got me. You see what I'm saying? I was right there on board. And I said to Becca, when we were watching that episode of The Penguin, go watch it, by the way. Phenomenal show. Phenomenal. I said, I was like, like a vengeance smoke. With a neat packaged cigarette? Oh my god.

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Und ich lege auch meine, weil ich sie normalerweise in Flughafen benutze. Ich bin nicht wirklich immer auf der Eskalation, aber ich lege sogar meine Tasche drüber. Wirklich? Ja, ich weiß nicht warum. Oh. Vielleicht Superstu. Du denkst, es wird dein fucking Gucci-Bag reingepackt? Ich habe kein Gucci-Bag. Ich bin sorry. Was für ein Bag hast du denn? Geh doch. Was für ein Bag habe ich?

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I've never smoked a cigarette and I've never killed anyone. But you could bet your bottom dollar if I've ever killed someone, I'm opening up a metal pack of cigarettes and crushing three. And guess what? When I open it and I see law and order, we're Americans. We don't know what's gonna happen in this country over the next... Vier Jahre?

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Wir brauchen ein bisschen Konsistenz und Recht und Ordnung in unserer Leben. Also gib uns das Packagings von Gumm. Gib es uns. Ja, aber... The way that they're so neat. Like, I would be a good, I probably can't say, serial, what do we say for that? Greg Louganis. Unaliver. Serial unaliver. Like, they make it look very neat. And that's appealing on, some of us, I just want to just.

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Wait, what are you talking about now? Just like. What looks neat? They'll just sit down and they'll be like, and they'll open their napkin and they'll pick up their fork and their knife and they'll just like. Oh, und dann jemandens Herz zu essen. Ja, Bro, Hannibal Lecter war auf etwas, in seiner Neugierigkeit.

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Ja, Hannibal Lecter hat viele verrückte Dinge gemacht, aber ich garantiere dir, er hatte ein schönes Apartment. Oh mein Gott, Alter, sag mir, mach mir einen Fehler. Denk einfach daran, wie organisiert dieser Typ wahrscheinlich war. Und dann sag mir, minus all das Cannibalismus und so, was groß ist. Es ist da oben mit sehr schlechten Sachen. Sehr schlechten, schlechten.

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Sag mir, du wolltest zumindest sein Studium sehen. Du wolltest nicht sehen, wie organisiert seine Florida-Stealing-Buchstabe war. Ja, ja. Alle Seiten von jedem Buch in seiner Bibliothek waren perfekt fest. Ich will sein Auto sehen. Ich garantiere dir, dass es nicht ein fucking Speck von Dust ist. Oh mein Gott. Orbit, du kannst das machen. Wir sind zurück zu Gum. Du kannst das machen, Orbit.

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Es ist nicht so schwer. Ja, stopp mit dem fucking Stück Gum an der Seite des Packages. Gum Packaging ist, schauen wir uns einen meiner Lieblingsgums an. Bubblicious. That's bananas. Alright. Let's look at one of my favorite gums. Big League Chew. And you know it. Big League Chew. That's a bad example. No, it ain't. They just stuff. Actually, they stuff. I will say that. Du hast dein Geld wert.

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Du weißt genau, was du aus Big League Chew bekommst. Joey, die haben mich gefreut. Wir haben Golf gespielt. Ich hatte eine Costco-Size-Box von Big League Chew in meinem Auto. Ich bin bereit, weil die Brand weiß, dass sie konsistente Standards haben, die sie leben können. Und nicht diese dummen Chips. Ich hasse diesen Gumm. But you know that gum that comes in like the metal little pimp?

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Like you pop it open and there's gum in there? No. It's like zebras on it?

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It was from when we were kids. It was called Fruit Stripe. Oh, yes. Yes. That gum is whack. Not good. Not good. But I like that it came in a little metal thing.

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I know. How much does it cost... So afraid to cutting into margins. Oh, margins.

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Gum used to stand on fucking business. It used to come in a beeper, bitch. Gun used to mean something. I used to have a pack of gum that people would be like, oh, you have band-aids? No, bitch. I'm a kid. It's gum. It looks like a band-aid. For some reason, that was weird, to be honest. Now I pull out gum and people are like, what do you have there? A matchbook? I want gum.

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Deine YSL-Travel-Bags. Ich habe keine YSL. Ich bin sorry. Du hast nichts.

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Frank, now that we've brought out band-aids... That's a lot of fun. I love stuff that you stick a part of it on and then you peel the other one off and it goes on at the same time like a little fucking magic trick. Love that. A little too niche. A little too niche for me. You're being a little niche right there, bitch. But you don't know what I'm talking about?

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Wie du ein Band-Aid öffnest, liebe ich. Du spielst es ab. Du spielst es ab. Du spielst es ab. Du spielst es ab. Technically, corn is in like everything. Technically, you know what? But not high fructose corn. Fructose, babe. What's wrong with you? Come on. Why did I say fructose? Fructose doesn't even sound correct.

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I don't even know. You should... Du solltest wissen, dass das nicht die Produktion ist. Fruchtoast. Ja. Ich habe gesagt, Fruchtoast. Fruchtoast. Ich sage das. Fruchtoast klingt wie ein 90er-Jungs-Frühstück. Das klingt großartig. Es kommt wie gefroren mit strawberry Jam drauf. Es hat Carcinogen in es. Was ist da los? Du bist komplett weg. Ich falle weg. Du bist komplett weg. Ja, ich kann nicht.

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Weil es 2009 ist. Ja, ja, ja. Dein Ed Hardy FUBU-Bag. I will say though that you, as someone that is active as you, like this is really good at tracking steps and calories. I have a watch, but it's just, it's not like an Apple watch. So it's just for like that kind of shit, but it's not like, oh, it's like a dedicated workout one.

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Komm zurück, Baby. Ich bin hier. But I do like to open Band-Aids. I'm fine with Band-Aids. And a big fat Band-Aid. I like those too. The ones that are like circles. I like the Band-Aids, the like waterproof ones that are like foam. They're see-through? Yeah. Yeah, bro, those don't go anywhere. I know, dude. You ever put a Band-Aid on like your Achilles and like a week later you're like, oh fuck.

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Yeah, I forget Band-Aids often. That's so disgusting, too, because I would almost rather find a log of shit in a pool than a Band-Aid. Finding a Band-Aid on a pool is disgusting. Yeah, dude. Yeah, absolutely. I'm with you there. Das Schlimmste, ich sage es so, wir haben vor einiger Zeit ein Video für Sanding Out of Studios gemacht. Ja.

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Das Schlimmste, die Leute werden sagen, oh, das Schlimmste ist Puk oder schmutziges Wasser oder verbranntes Milch. Das Schlimmste war das Band-Aid. Oh. By far the worst. I ate the puke one and that one's pretty bad. No, you didn't have the used band-aid. I remember it was either pomegranate or used bandage. I love pomegranate. It was not. Do you like the smell of band-aids?

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I don't hate it, but I wouldn't eat it. Weißt du, was ich wirklich mag? A-Bandagen. Ich habe meine Arme aufgeworfen, für keinen Grund. Joey hat das gemacht, ich erinnere mich daran. Ich habe ihn aufgeworfen, mit keinem wissenschaftlichen Grund oder Wissen. Es war wahrscheinlich schädlich, lass uns ehrlich sein.

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Ich erinnere mich, dass ich, als ich meine Knie-Szene bekommen habe, A-Bandagen und solche Sachen benötigt habe. Und ich hatte einen großen. Das Ding war wie ein Karpfen. Ja. Okay. Und ich erinnere mich, sie sagten, du weißt, wie man das anziehen kann. Ich sagte, ja, und ich habe es angenommen. Und sie stoppten mich schnell. Nein, nein, nein, nein, nein, nein, nein.

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Ich hatte meinen Finger auf den Nukenknopf. Ja, ja, ja. Und sie sagten einfach, du solltest umdrehen. Wenn es dein Knie ist, solltest du es oben und unten umdrehen.

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Ich gehe über den Knie.

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Es gab immer ein Kind in der Hochschule, das sich mit einem A-Bandage befand, der sich schmerzte. Nur um Sympathie. Sie hatten Kratzer und sie waren so... Sie waren zu hart. Weißt du, Leute, die mit Kratzern verursacht wurden? Nicht verursacht.

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Es ist eine Sache, dass Leute... Jeder wusste, dass ein Kind, der immer ein A-Bandage hatte, oder... Ich erinnere mich, wir waren in der Hochschule, als das kam, mit Kinetic Tape und so. Sie wurden immer schmerzt. Ich habe das einmal mit einem Bracelet gemacht. auf meinem Handgelenk. Was? Ich habe es vergessen.

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Ich weiß nicht, ob das ein echter Schmerz ist, aber es fühlte sich an, als hätte ich meinen Rücken geschlagen. Oh. Ich fiel und mein Rücken schmerzte. Ich dachte, oh. Ich habe meine Mutter mitgebracht, und ich habe dieses Bracelet geworfen, das deinen Rücken schlägt. Ich weiß, was du bezeichnest. Ich habe das in der Schule geworfen. Ja. Oh, I had legit braces for legit injuries. Yeah, I know.

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You were crutched up. I was the king. I had a key for the elevator in my high school. I was living it up, baby. Did you ever give anyone a free ride? I'm sure I did, knowing me. Just knowing me. A girl would be like, yeah, I got this. Don't walk. You shouldn't walk. You're too pretty to walk. I can only be a gentleman this way right now. Was bedeutet das?

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Like Apple's, it's like full smart tech. Yeah, because I would never, like I can't think of a reason why I would wear that. And I don't want my text messages popping up. My fucking headphones now do this thing where it reads my text messages when I'm listening to music. It drives me crazy. Du kannst es programmieren, damit es das nicht macht.

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Ich konnte sie nicht in die Schule bringen. Aber ich werde dich in die Schule bringen. Ich werde dich in die Schule bringen? Ja. Ich hatte keine Zeit. Oh, wirklich? Es war eine große Hochschule. In meiner Junioren- und Seniorjahre war ich so nah mit all den Mitarbeitern in meiner Schule, dass ich in den Hallen mit anderen Leuten sein könnte und vielleicht in Probleme käme und ich wäre so cool.

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Was zur Hölle ist das? Hast du irgendwas gesagt? Ich habe eine Sache über sie gefunden, und das war, dass sie einen sehr spezifischen Lollipop lief. Welcher war es? Du erinnerst dich, ich weiß, du erinnerst dich. Strawberry Blow Pop. Das ist eine gute Wahl. Sie hat einen guten Geschmack.

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Watermelon, Cherry, Strawberry, Grape, Green Apple. Ich habe den Film nicht geliebt. Und dann gibt es die großen, schwarzen Sachen. Erinnerst du dich? Sie waren auch... Doppel-Popp. Doppel-Doppel-Doppel-Popp.

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Ich frage mich, ob er das macht. Wenn der Vater des Costco-Maschinen den Rest seines Lebens verblüht. Er sagt, Junge, wie fühlst du dich? Du bist schon lange im Bad. Er sagt, ich habe eine Doppel-Doppel-Doppel-Popp. Doppel-Popp. Yo, the Rizzler liked our video. Did he?

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I mean, we're in, dude. Yeah, we're locked in. To the Illuminati, because that's where he's going. Is he? He has, he must. Where are you gonna go? I mean... He's just... It's too hot. Let's get him in here. We'll give him the pieces necessary to defend himself well against Baby Gronkh. He's got a father, so I think... You know they're not related, right? Baby Gronkh and Baby Rizzler? No.

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Well, yeah, I think you're... Also, when we post that, there were so many people in the comments like, I don't know what's going on. But no, the Rizzler-Kid is not related to... The Costco guys, yeah, I know that. I'm very tuned into the Costco-verse. I know about everyone. I know about Jersey Joe. I know about all of them. Okay? Jersey Joe! Ja, Mama Justice ist da drin.

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Ich kann es nicht herausfinden. Ich sage dir etwas, was cool ist. Wenn du Google Maps hast und es nicht mit CarPlay verbunden ist. Was heißt das? Ja, CarPlay. Und wenn du deine Hand auf dem Steuerspiegel hast, wird es auf 100 Meter hochkommen. Das ist ziemlich schön. Klingt CarPlay nicht wie Porn? A little bit, honestly. Or corn? Don't say the B-Word. That's it, now you're done.

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Ich bin sehr... Ich bin in den Costco-Verse eingegangen, okay? Ehrlich gesagt... Shoutout zu Jersey Joe, Mann. Ehrlich gesagt, ich werde nur sagen, dass wir nicht eingeladen worden sind, dass wir uns zumindest in den Costco-Verse eingeladen haben. Boom! Du weißt doch, wie groß ein Boom, den die Basement-Jungs bringen würden? Boom den Ruf aus der Tür. Boom? Ein Basement-Jungs-Boom?

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We don't know them. We don't know them. But they're like, there's these two kids, they're like 11, 12. Yeah. And they make videos with their dad. Or one of them makes a video with their dad in Costco and they like write stuff in Costco. Yeah. And it's like kind of wholesome. Yeah. But there is this... For now. We're waiting for the 30 for 30 to come out. Yeah, exactly.

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We're waiting for the Demi Lovato produced documentary about it. Did you watch that? She made a documentary? About child stars. Might wanna watch. Might wanna watch. That was a hard pivot there, buddy. Was it about her? It was about her, Christina Richie's in it, Kenan Thompson's in it. Christina Richie? Yeah, she was a child star. I know. I just, I didn't. Ist es die dunkle Seite?

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Da ist was drin. Ich wette, da ist was drin. Hollywood ist ein furchtbarer Ort. Bleib den Rizzler und... Ja, verteidige den Costco-Verse. Ja, ja. Wir wollen ihn verteidigen. Wann war das letzte Mal, dass du zum Costco gingst? Nicht so lange her. Innerhalb des letzten Kalenderjahres, würde ich sagen. I haven't been in a long time. I'm not allowed. I'm not a member. Love Costco.

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If I had to go buy a TV. I'm going to Costco though. Okay. I mean, or go and get the abundance of other stuff that they have. Ja, ich weiß, sie haben alles. Ein wirklich cooles Geschäftsmodell, auch der Kaffee ist ein Verlustleiter, er bekommt Leute in die Tür, es ist ein guter Kaffee. Kaffee ist ein Verlustleiter?

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Ja, Kaffee ist, es gibt etwas in der Retail-Welt, das als Verlustleiter genannt wird, wo sie im Grunde etwas unterpreisen, um einfach mehr Leute da drin zu bekommen und dann, während sie da drin sind, kannst du den Basket-Satz erhöhen und so weiter. Verdammt. Ich erinnere mich, Baby. Target Boy.

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Ich komme zurück. Mein Augenarzt war da. Das ist traurig. Wie ist das traurig? Nimm einen echten Augenarzt, Junge. Nun, ich habe ihn nicht. Ich habe ihn noch nicht. Wo soll ich gehen? Ich bin in meinen 30ern. Wenn ich mehr Kontakte brauche, muss ich meine Mutter anrufen. Nimm mich nach Costco. Wir haben ein schönes kleines Spielzeug. Aber weißt du was? Nicht.

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Deine Mutter mag das wahrscheinlich viel. Sie mag es nicht. Und wenn du da bist, bietet sie dir Sachen zu kaufen? Nein. Ja, du bist zu reich. Sie ist so klug. Liz, du bist sehr klug. Sie sah dein 40-Millionen-Dollar-Haus, das du ihr gesendet hast. Das ist ein neuer Wunsch, den du starten willst, dass ich 40 Millionen Dollar... Ja, das würde ich wünschen. Das wäre schön. Das wäre wirklich schön.

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Das wäre schön. Warum mache ich das nur wieder? Das wäre schön. Es wäre schön, Washington an deiner Seite zu haben. Oh, sieh, ich kenne nicht mal diese Musik. Das war gut, aber... Das hast du, Baby. Aber ja, Mann, Shoutouts. Ja, das war so lustig, du hast Jersey Joe gesagt. Ist das wie ein Hometown Hero für euch? No, fuck. Well, I don't know. I don't want to talk shit. He could dance really well.

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He might beat the dog shit out of me too. The guy could, he could move. People that dance that well probably can also fight well because he can do like a split and like Johnny Cage punch me in the nuts. Have you ever watched the UFC? Like, I don't. Bro, I'm telling you, man. The Costco-verse, they're growing, man. They're like the NWO at this point in time.

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We're corn, we're corn. We're corn boys. It sounds like corn, though. Get in my car and play. We're using the word corn in place of corn. Right. But when I say we're corn boys, meaning that we're just because we use that, not like we are. Oh, yeah, we're not doing corn.

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They might fucking... Yeah, I feel like... But isn't it crazy how the internet can just create these stars now? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? For like a niche thing. Did you see fucking Hawk 2? Like hard launched her boyfriend and he's like... What? Blowing up now? Yeah. Really? Yeah. That's great. We are truly in the end of times, folks.

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Yeah. This is what... I'm interested to hear what fucking the Costcoverse has to say about that. Yeah, right. You know, and now... We give Pookie a... Oh, no. Oh, maybe they do give him a doom. I don't want to give him a doom. I don't know the guy. But you're being the AJ, you know? Boom. Ich zeige es dir jetzt, Mann. Wahnsinn. Schau dir das an. Wir haben nichts Gutes über sie gesprochen.

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Wir haben vielleicht erwähnt, dass es ein bisschen Dunkelheit gibt, aber jeder hat ein bisschen. Er ist auch ein Pro-Wrestler, du weißt das, oder? Current? Er war ein Indie-Wrestler und er wird... Oh ja, du hast mir das gesagt. Ja, er wird Wrestling sein. Er wird mich fucking... Er wird ihn definitiv auf WWE setzen. Nein, er macht einen Match mit AEW. Oh. Ja. Wow. Ja. Dude, bring out the Rizzler.

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The Rizzler is like... He's like... Yeah, that's it. That's the move. Man, I'm exhausted. The Double Chunk Chocolate Moonsault. Yeah. Yo. What a world we're living in. It's fun. I'm just saying now, if we don't get a call from a Costco-verse, we're starting our own. I mean, you put it out there. The bait's in the water. The bait is in the water.

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Can the sharks smell the blood, is what we were wondering. We don't know. We don't know. We don't know, but we're gonna find out. We shall. Love you, babies. And you guys can still go get some of that TOR-Merch at tbytormerch.com So get it while you can. And you guys can go follow me at JoeSanagato and go follow the show at TheBasement on TikTok and Instagram. And that is all.

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Yeah, no, no. Eating corn, though. I love corn. Love is crazy, but I'm cool with corn. Mexican street corn? Now we're talking. And I'm talking about the food.

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See you guys next time. Boom!

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Listen, they're outside doing that? Algorithm. You fucked with our ability to now say corn. Now I can't even talk about corn. Now people think that we're talking about... Der Korn, der viele... Nein, das funktioniert auch nicht. Ich wollte sagen, Früchte, aber es gibt auch Früchte in Korn. Ist es da? Ja, wette Korn, Alter. Ich meine, wenn es Butter gibt. Und Korn ist natürlich frisch. Ist es?

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Ja, ich esse frische Korn. Real Korn. Ja, ja, ja. Aber ja, wie Carplay. Es klingt wie ein Genre. Ja, genau. Ich kann fast garantieren, dass es so ist. Vorplay, Carplay. Wir fühlten uns vor, als wir nach Hause kamen. Es war Carplay. Es klingt ein bisschen dreckig. Vielleicht ist das, warum sie es genannt haben. Ich kann fast garantieren, dass es nicht, warum sie es genannt haben.

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These things are pretty durable, dude. Do you have an Apple Watch? No. You should get one. Why? Ich weiß nicht. Ja. Ich mag es nicht. Es ist gut. Es ist gut. Es ist gut, wenn man die Schritte trackt. Redest du mit deinen Rüsten und schreibst zurück? Nein, nein, ich mache das nicht. Okay, weil meine Mutter das macht und ich will sie schlagen. Oh.

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Ich kann auch sagen, dass es es wahrscheinlich nicht ist. Aber ja, ich habe eigentlich... Hinter den Szenen habe ich viel mit Joey gesprochen. House. Oh, also du hast einen Fremden getroffen? Ja. Und du hast ihr Workout-Equipment genommen. Es waren drei Fremde dort. Drei? Oh, das war eine Befreiung. Ich habe mich aufgenommen. Nein, ich glaube, vielleicht. Aber schau mich an.

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Meine Bilder sind wie ich in einem Hawaiian-Shirt. Was schützt du dich gegen? Ich weiß es nicht, Alter. Du bist in ruraler Pennsylvania. Vielleicht sahen sie Alvarez und sagten, wir sollten einen Backup haben. Ja, ich weiß es nicht. Ich meine, es ist völlig möglich. Nein, aber ich kam auf und ich war einfach so, sie könnten mich aufhören, wenn sie es wollten. Und so.

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What a weird way to try and rob somebody, though. Like, oh, let me come buy your fucking treadmill. I think people have been doing it forever. Was it a giveaway? Or did you cash? A Venmo. Nice. You know, we did that whole bad boy.

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But I was fully, I don't know if I told you this, I was fully ready, I was just like, alright, I'm committing to waking up at a certain time each morning and just walking on this treadmill just to get some steps in. Step it up. But my brain convinced me not to. So this is an interesting excuse.

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No, no, no. I gaslit myself with my dreams. You can imagine what the human experience is like for us. Oh yeah! Oh yeah! You're gaslighting so much that it's now like... Now I'm a victim of my own brain. You know like Harry Potter, where it's like a spell accidentally bounces off the wall and hits you. Yeah, and it hits you. And then it's like Gilderoy Lockhart, just like, who am I? You know?

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Like that's... Ich habe Gilderoy Lockhart. Ja, genau. Was ist passiert? Aber ich setzte meinen Alarm auf, um um 5 Uhr aufzuwachen, damit ich gehen kann und ich meine Sache machen kann. Aber ich hatte einen Traum, dass ich nicht laufen konnte. Aber weißt du, warum? War es nur ein Traum, wo meine Beine nicht bewegen?

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Es war ein Traum, wo mein Fuß schmerzte und ich hatte einen Ball in meinem Fuß und ich konnte nicht laufen. Und ich war unabhängig. Ja. And I remember in my dream being like, I have to not walk at all. So I silenced my alarms. In real life? In real life silenced my alarms because of what my dreams were convincing me. This is some sci-fi shit. This is like dreams bleeding into reality.

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Sie ist so, ja, Shan, ich werde zurück mit dem grossen... Ich muss sagen, dieses ganze... Und du bist ein Teil der Leute, die ich hier ausruhen möchte. Surprise, surprise. This new movement of people just sending voice notes instead of texts. I like voice notes. Fuck you. Write to me. Why? I want to feel like that was a form of love back in the day. I'm still texting.

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What is he thinking about before bed? Where you're like, I probably shouldn't do that. And your body's like, I got you. But I go to sleep fully like, yeah, I'm gonna do this. I'm excited to do this. I have a whole routine. But there's another person in there going, no.

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Ich will auch sagen, dass es keinen kleinen Mann in mir gibt. Ich will das auch klar machen. Ja, aber mein Gehirn in seinem Traum-like-Stand hat mich überzeugt, mich nicht aufzuwachen und das zu tun. Was für ein Arschloch! Was für ein absoluter Arschloch! Also, du hattest vor 5 Uhr aufgewacht und dann hast du deine Alarm aufgeschlossen?

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Ich erinnere mich daran, dass ich meine Uhr aufgemacht habe, weil ich meine Alarm auf silent aufgemacht habe, damit Beccas nicht aufwacht. Wie heißt das, vibriert es? Es vibriert, ja. Es vibriert auf deinen Rücken und ich erinnere mich daran, dass ich mir gedacht habe, oh nein. But it was in my dream. Right. You weren't fully awake yet.

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I wasn't fully awake and I, it was like, I fucking, I woke up when Maeve woke up and I was just like, oh fuck. I'm such a little bitch. Now you gotta battle yourself. I mean, your dream self. That's a classic, that's a classic battle, you know, like you versus yourself. Right, yeah.

The Basement Yard

#478 - The CORN Episode

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That's a motivational poster right there. The only one in your way is yourself. That's right. But they're not mentioning that it's your dream self. Exactly.

The Basement Yard

#478 - The CORN Episode

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Es ist die Freddy-Kruger-Version von mir, die versucht, meine Fähigkeit zu vermeiden. Nicht, dass sie dich schnell töten. Nur, dass du dich nicht bewegst. Langsam, ja. Es gibt keine Knallfinger hier. Es ist nur ein absoluter Füllen-auf-Arterie. Ja, genau. Wow, okay. Wie bekommst du das? Ich weiß es nicht, Alter. Doppel-Alarm? Bist du ein Doppel-Alarm? Ich bin es. Also habe ich ein Doppel-Alarm.

The Basement Yard

#478 - The CORN Episode

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Aber ich glaube, beide wurden gespürt. Oh, so you double shot. My dream self took my alarms behind the shed and put two fucking bullets in the back of their skull. Wow, so maybe you're gonna have to trip alarm then. I don't know what I'm gonna do, honestly. This is something I thought of this morning.

The Basement Yard

#478 - The CORN Episode

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I was just like, I need to... You're gonna laugh at me, but I was like, I need to strengthen myself. Elaborate. What do you mean by that? Mentally, right? So how do you plan on doing that? Yeah, talk to me, Sensei. I have to spend time just controlling my thoughts. I'll tell you where it's gonna possibly end up. I did see a TikTok this morning that was just like... mach 10 Sekunden Kühlschau.

The Basement Yard

#478 - The CORN Episode

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Dann mach 20 Sekunden Kühlschau. Okay. Und dann vielleicht, das ist so, wie ich mein Gehirn stärken kann, um nicht wie eine Dschungel-Dream-Version von mir zu sein. Ich weiß nicht, ob das funktionieren wird, aber ich bin optimistisch, dass es vielleicht funktioniert. Und ich habe schon versucht, die Kühlschau-Sache zu machen. Oh, du hast sie gemacht? Nicht, ja, ich sage dir das.

The Basement Yard

#478 - The CORN Episode

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I wouldn't qualify what I did as a try. What was it? Yeah, I'm just like, ew. Like, why would I, like, I get why people, and I know like the ice baths and that kind of stuff. Like, that's different. But just like, not shower time. I can't, ice baths, I don't know how people do it. I've done it. The bathhouse that I went to with Greg before, they have a freezing cold. We all heard that, right?

The Basement Yard

#478 - The CORN Episode

864.377

I just want to make sure we've all heard that. I almost died in the fucking bathtub, I was going to say, in the bathhouse last time. Way too much time in the sauna. But they have a cold plunge pool filled with bleach or chlorine because it stinks like chemicals. But I got in it and it was like 40 degrees and I did like 45 seconds and I was like, I'm the coolest guy in the world.

The Basement Yard

#478 - The CORN Episode

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I get that, but a shower where I'm like... Or when people say, just get in the shower and turn it on. I'm like, this is stupid. This is crazy. Don't do that. I'll tell you, I am in equal parts impressed and equal parts hate that guy that in some part, it's like North Dakota. It's just like, good morning. And it's just a big ice bath and he just breaks the ice on top.

The Basement Yard

#478 - The CORN Episode

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No, you're not, though, because then you're not. Yeah, I am. No, you're not. Because Joey will do the thing where he'll send a fucking 90-second voice note. I won't do that. So that I'm against. I'm with voice notes. And I know where this started, and I want to see if you say it before I call you out for it. What are you talking about? It's fucking business efficiency, Greg.

The Basement Yard

#478 - The CORN Episode

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And he's like, we're going to sit in for three minutes today. And he sits in and he's just like. The world is not about against you. The world is about being in support of your hopes and dreams. And I'm just like, fuck you, you ice bath. That guy, I think, is... That guy, actually, I talked to him. I wish I could remember his name. I'm glad you don't. He followed me, though.

The Basement Yard

#478 - The CORN Episode

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So I was like, dude, I've seen your TikToks. So there's a chance he follows us?

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#478 - The CORN Episode

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Yeah, that guy's skin must be like... The tightest little tight, tight. Yeah. But yeah, it's like, he's like, today, good morning, it's zero degrees Celsius. It's minus three degrees Fahrenheit out here, and today we're talking about gratitude. Ja, er bricht das Eis und kommt rein und sagt, es ist nicht dein Vater, es ist du. Ja, genau. Er gibt eine Sprache.

The Basement Yard

#478 - The CORN Episode

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Ich sehe, dass du etwas tötest, was ich hasse. Ich brauche nicht, dass du mich erwachen, wie ein Trauma in mir. Nein, er ist ein cooler Typ. Aber, also der Grund, warum ich mit ihm gesprochen habe, weil dann hat er angefangen, dieses Ding zu machen, wo er ein Stück des Eis ausbringt und es isst. Aber dann hat er angefangen, Hot Sauce zu benutzen. Ich war so, oh ja, du hast mir darüber gesprochen.

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#478 - The CORN Episode

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Aber ich habe ihm alles, Bagel, Hot Sauce auf dem Eis gesendet. Gut auf alles, Freund. Aber... When I eventually own a home, definitely get in a little tub. Oh, like a cold plunge tub? Yeah, and a sauna. I'm going to ask you some questions offline about your house, because I'm very intrigued. Just put it in the backyard. I know, I'm just confused as to where your budget is going to end.

The Basement Yard

#481 - The Weirdest Dream I've Ever Had

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This AI is good. It knows us pretty well, dude.

The Basement Yard

#481 - The Weirdest Dream I've Ever Had

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This is awesome.

The Basement Yard

#481 - The Weirdest Dream I've Ever Had

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The NYPD can handle it.

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#481 - The Weirdest Dream I've Ever Had

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That's mad funny.

The Basement Yard

#481 - The Weirdest Dream I've Ever Had

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I have no defense there. Is there mics in here?

The Basement Yard

#481 - The Weirdest Dream I've Ever Had

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As soon as I started, I was like, I'm here, and I gotta keep going, and I hated it the whole time.

The Basement Yard

#481 - The Weirdest Dream I've Ever Had

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The bowl is white! No!

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#481 - The Weirdest Dream I've Ever Had

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I loved her. I'm not her.

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#481 - The Weirdest Dream I've Ever Had

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Low-rise jeans at a dinner? Come on! Come on! What was that?

The Basement Yard

#488 - You Have A Weird Relationship With Your Mom

2602.43

Look at that one though.

The Basement Yard

#499 - How Is No One Talking About This?

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We'll see you next time.

The Basement Yard

#493 - Joe Had A Dream About Frank

3884.58

Hooters, hooters, hooters, hooters.

The Basement Yard

#493 - Joe Had A Dream About Frank

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See you next time.

The Best One Yet

🍸“The Spy Who Primed Me” — James Bond’s Amazon deal. Microsoft’s quantum leap. OpenTable vs Resy.

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to solve unsolvable challenges in creating new medicines, entirely new materials, and helping our natural world.

The Best One Yet

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Every big moment starts with a big dream. But what happens when that big dream turns out to be a big flop? From Wondery and At Will Media, I'm Misha Brown, and this is The Big Flop. Every week, comedians join me to chronicle the biggest flubs, fails, and blunders of all time, like Quibi. It's kind of like when you give yourself your own nickname and you try to, like, get other people to do it.

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and the 2019 movie adaptation of Cats. Like, if I'm watching the dancing and I'm noticing the feet aren't touching the ground, there's something wrong with the movie. Find out what happens when massive hype turns into major fiasco. Enjoy The Big Flop on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to The Big Flop early and ad-free on Wondery+.

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Detroit’s Grit, Drake vs. Caleb, a Giannis Trade Idea, and Guess the Lines With Cousin Sal

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I think I'd rather be us than Miami because we have Drake May.

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Detroit’s Grit, Drake vs. Caleb, a Giannis Trade Idea, and Guess the Lines With Cousin Sal

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He has no receivers and no offensive line. He's been fine.

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It's like, you're not, you're not a good team.

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You're really awful. You're terrible at football. You had no business winning the game. Like Ganoa missed a field goal. Jones had that interception he threw late in the fourth quarter.

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Is it my fault for letting my dog out without a leash? No, I'm just saying. Is this your parent corner? No, of course.

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It's like, you have Daniel Jones on your team. Don't do flea flickers with him. Don't have him throw in tight windows when you need a score inside the 20-yard line. It's idiotic.

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Lamb and be like, oh, look at our receivers. Travis Hunter and C.D. Lamb. Oh, my God. We have nobody who can block, but look at those two receivers.

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Darren Rizzi, the Far Lake kid. Ken, he's in a fight with Ken. Harry had to intervene because Ken got mad at Darren Rizzi.

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Work.

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Uh-huh.

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100%.

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Yeah. It's like, yeah.

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Oh, no.

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Woo!

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Woo!

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Uh-huh.

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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There's this woman at my gym and she, every time she sees me, this is like the fourth time that she's done it, she's like, I know you probably hate your hair. I know you probably hate it, but I love it. She's like, no, I think it is so cute. It is so cute. I know you really probably hate it though.

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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Oh, my God. Wait. That's so cute.

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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Mine's September 18th. Okay, fine. Okay, wait. That's my cousin's birthday. I'm like, okay, wait. Me. Yeah. No.

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okay so chai i got her she's seven now so um before i lived out here i lived in boston and literally like three days before i moved like out of my like parents house to boston i was like i need a cat i don't know that's like probably the worst timing like why would i decide anyway so i'm like yeah All right, I need a companion, you know what I mean, for this.

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Yeah, right. So I was, you know, on Snapchat one day, and a friend of mine posted a little kitten. And I was like, oh, my God, who's cat? And he was like, mine. I'm like, well, where did you get this cat? He was like, my weed dealer. I said, okay.

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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like are there more can i can i go like pick one up he was like plug of multiple yeah right so i was like well i need one like he was like yeah hit him up so literally it was like yeah like a transaction of sorts where i would just was like hey i'm here for the cat he was like all right yeah yeah and he like took me inside he took me inside um like literal trap house by the way and so he's like yeah we just need to like find them i'm like

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and i can't sing for shit and i'll do it better yeah exactly yeah and i can't sing at all so i'm like they're gonna let me in that music industry one way or another figure that's my way yeah and you just kind of i feel like again like you said the vibe like it's just as long as you look good up there right it really doesn't matter like are they gonna know like if if my whole set's pre-recorded like who's really gonna know you know what i mean i look good

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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they're like they're like seven or eight weeks old they're like babies he's like they should be in here somewhere so i'm like okay you think they would like be in a contained space with a mother or something i don't know so i'm like hey you know i'm not gonna tell you how to like raise your cats whatever so i'm like okay so he like goes in like a completely different room i'm just i'm in the kitchen at this point i'm standing in the kitchen and i see a cat

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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walk out but it was very it was the mom it was not one of the babies i was like okay well there's the mom i think and then like two seconds later a little baby like starts meowing and walks out from behind the fridge and i was like oh wait there's one in here i was like wait here's one and then they like came back and they were like oh yeah you have that one i was like okay i was like

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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I really wanted a girl cat too. Cause I grew up with boy cats and I was like, I want a girl cat. Like, you know, I wanted, I need a daughter. So I was just like, Oh, is it a boy or a girl? And then they picked her up and they were like, I think it's a girl. I was just like, okay, sure. Easy works for me. And, um, so I took her home and she's been like literally the best.

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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She's like literally the best cat ever. And, um, she's such an angel.

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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So yeah, I'm like, I can't really say it. No, I'm kidding. Love him. But he is, um, He is a character. He's just, he's, it's like you get one and they're like the best. Like they don't do anything bad. And then you're like, I need another one. And then the second one is always just like the literal spawn of Satan. I'm just like, okay. He's so funny though. He's just like so bizarre.

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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Like all my friends are just like, he's just, he's a fucking weirdo.

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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weird like he's just like in the corner like like he's just so strange and i can't even like his mannerisms and just the stuff that he does he's just a weird little guy and when he was younger he's kind of growing out of it now because he's probably like two or three ish now um he was so bad he would get into everything like things that were like unfathomable like that chai would never even think about like he trying to bite or like ruining i'm like why

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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like it was honestly like respect the creativity bro like i really i'm like oh it happens when you let men in the house yeah yes i know i'm like oh you've ruined everything like yeah so it's like you have a great thing going and like you're gonna come in here with this masculine energy and i don't know like bro i don't know if you could stay here much longer But I love him. He's hilarious. He is.

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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But he's just like, yeah, weird little guy. How'd you get him? Just adopt him from another friend? I was just like looking around at adoption centers around here. Because at this point, this was when I was in L.A. And I was just, like, looking. I went to, like, two or three different adoption centers. And I was like, okay, you know. And then I went to this one last one.

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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I was like, let me just try this one before I go home. And I wasn't, like, set on going home with a cat that day. But I was like, I mean, I just want to, like, see what they got, you know. It wouldn't hurt. And it was called, like, Heaven on Earth, something like that. And they had a lot of cats.

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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and they were like oh we usually do by appointment only only but it was like kind of dead that day yeah so they're like it just come in like you know come look around and they were like we just got these three guys in and they were they were babies um not as small as chai was when i got her but still tiny and it was the three of them they were brothers she was like yeah somebody just found them like on the street and brought them here and you know we got them fixed and they're all good they're like ready to go and um immediately at the three of them i was like oh he's really cute like i just was like drawn to him i was like oh he's adorable

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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yeah and so i was like holding him for a little bit and they were like oh you want to like look around look at the other cats i'm like yeah so i do a little lap and then i was like let me go i want to go back and look at that one again as i go back into that room there are there's a couple of these two guys and they are like literally this is only like within 10 minutes by the way like they're like signing the paperwork for i'm like like who are they taking who are they taking not him please and then they were taking the other two but not the one that

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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not my son i was like wait no i was like wait no i i can't leave him here by himself now i was like no i have to take him so it honestly it all worked out so perfectly they're like that one's fucking weird they were like wait look at him he's fucking weird leave that one literally i'm like i guess it was the only one that i didn't see that like everyone else like could tell that he was a fucking weirdo but me but i was like oh

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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So yeah. So I took him in. Yeah.

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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Come from just, like, maybe not so great.

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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Yeah, like, maybe just, like, just some not so great circumstances.

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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Yeah. My best friend has one too. And that's like agreed.

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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And they can't even help it.

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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too it's so funny or like like oh my god literally when i go to my friend's house i'm like her friend she like you would think that i am like jesus christ standing right in front of her that's how excited she gets just to see somebody that's like not her mom like it's just i'm like oh my god oh my god i know just for no reason like every single time no reason and i love it though but yeah they do have a lot of energy they have so he has so much and i we even got him trained like we trained him we trained him up to a certain point and then he stopped listening to me he's like getting parent deaf he's like wait

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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He became self-aware in that moment. He's like, fuck.

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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Like, literally, like, I need people to bust it open wide on this, like, now.

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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You're like, oh no, he looked way, oh my God, he looks way better in person.

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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yeah he's deaf and i go imagine that was the test it was four hundred dollars literally no that's genuinely like they're like all right we'll be right back with him they take him back yeah they do they're like i drop it yeah like literally that's exact all right yeah it's gonna be four hundred dollars yeah they dig him back they just scream in his yeah yeah he's definitely right

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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Nobody wants to dance. Nobody wants to dance. Nobody wants to get down. Like, it's just... It's really, honestly, it's horrible. It's so tragic. And that's... No, seriously, though, that's the thing. I'm just like, if I am, like...

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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Um, like, okay. Roblox as far as just like literal mindless, like just so stupid, but like so much fun. Like when you, you don't even have to like use your brain to play. Like it's so much fun.

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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Oh my God. You gotta get on there, girl. Dress to impress is a good place to start. I do love dress to impress.

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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fun yeah i'm like so fun lovely good dress to impress but um yeah other than that there's just like all these little like lobbies people are like talking to each other and stuff and there's there's like a there's one called cake off it's like the cake version of dress to impress we have to like make a cake in like five minutes and it's like there's themes i'm like you can put in the icing on and like i love that but um i also really like storyline games because i'm not really like a movie person and i hate that i'm not because i feel left out all the time like everyone's like oh my god i'm like

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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I'm like, wait.

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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in the club like i want to shake a little ass like is that too much to ask for nowadays like dance and not be like threatened yeah yeah actually so i'm just like yeah and that's why you know again the event that i'm going to be doing it's like around pride so i'm just like okay great so it's just going to be like all the girls gays days like yeah and we're all just going to have a good time so that's what i'm trying to dj for yeah exactly i was like they're going to love it regardless right because i i went to coachella this year did you go to coachella no

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No, I never watch. I'm like, yeah, I really haven't seen like even like old stuff that everyone's seen. I'm like, I never found the time to do that one.

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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Like and I don't care to. Yeah. And that's really it.

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Yeah. No, literally same. I'm like, uh, I, yeah. I mean, I kind of like, I believe you. Yeah. I believe you. I bet it's good. I bet there's a lot of guys in it. Some people shooting guns. I don't know. Sounds good.

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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Cool. So that's kind of, yeah, I'm like the same thing. So I would rather just storyline.

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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I'd rather play it. Cause I'm like, okay, it's like, gives me something to do. Um, also probably like some sort of undiagnosed ADHD going on or something where I'm just like, I feel like I need to be like doing something constantly, but I love a good storyline game because, um,

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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yeah you're like you're like feel like you're in it i'm like this is fun i love that and like horror games too that's like only more recently did i start to get into horror games because fun fact when i was younger i was like petrified of anything like horror horror movies like so me me too i was like it was also just i grew up in a catholic household and it was more of like the like the fear of god like instilled in you and i'm like oh my god he's watching me like all the time i just was like super scared of just like anything like surrounding like just

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NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

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anything that would be typically like evil or scary i was like oh no no no oh fuck no like my friends actually when i was in middle school or whenever the movie came out i'm pretty sure it was like middle school or early high school whenever um insidious came out oh yes um i had literally never seen a scary movie like in my life and my friends convinced me we were at the because like the movie theater like inside of the mall like kind of a thing when you're all

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hanging out yeah they were like let's go see a movie i'm like okay yeah so we're like looking at like the posters whatever they're like let's go see this one i'm insidious i'm like what is that like what are they what's it about they're like oh it's just it's like about a boy and his family and i'm like oh and i'm like looking at the poster it's like literally it was like a house and like a creepy boy like and i'm like he looks kind of fucking weird i don't know i was like

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okay yeah let's go whatever so we like go see the movie right and um literally within the first like 10 minutes i'm like there's like so like a warning where it's just like this movie is like causing like paranormal or just something like where they try to freak you out in the beginning with like the the text or whatever i was like wait guys wait i was like wait no no i didn't sign up for this and i was like literally crying the entire time and they weren't done they thought it was hilarious i'm like that's still to this day traumatic for me but um

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Yeah. She's like, it's a 24. Yeah.

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i was so fucked up over that movie that okay no it's like stayed with me yeah i actually was just talking about that movie recently with some of my friends because they were like doing like a rerun of it yeah um at some theater and they went to go see it and they were like that movie is like fucked up i was like yeah it really is you see uh mitsumar have you seen that one i've never seen that okay that will fuck you up a

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little bit yeah because after i watched hereditary i know midsummer came out right after that and when that came out my sister was like oh i think i'm gonna go see i was like you were like you in those movies i'm not listening to you fuck you i'm not listening to you that's how i yeah i'm like because i the thing with like the 824 i'm like there's some of them that are like quirky q and then when they like then they go down the road where i'm like okay it's like the point of no return like i'm not no no no this is like this is dark sided this is dark side

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That's my personal nightmare.

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you're all the universe works rest in peace actually that was like genuinely probably one of the craziest things ever because that's like literally not like that's not made up like the club burnt out like burnt to the ground so basically yeah so i was like kind of like oh yeah no you're fine oh my god i know huh two o'clock on the money it's crime time

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for real crime crime time yeah so i was kind of like one foot in one foot out with like the streaming because i was like you know it was cute and i was making a little bit of money but not enough for me to be like done dancing hanging up the boots but um i was you know trying to get to that point but i wasn't like i was just kind of scared to like fully commit so i was working but i was not working as much as i was at one point

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And I was just like, man, I don't know. Like I've been dancing for like six years at this point. So I was kind of like, eh, you know, kind of like ready to be done with it. And I literally call my best friend at the club. I'm like, yeah, are you going to go to work tonight? I think I'm going to go tonight. It's probably like noon. Like I just woke up not that long ago.

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I'm like, are you going to go to work tonight? She's like, no, you haven't heard. I was like, heard what? She's like, the club burned down. I'm like, wait, wait.

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what do you mean like and we would always the funniest thing we would always joke like we would literally be like we're gonna fuck it like fuck this place let's set it on fire like as a joke like we would that was like a little like running schtick that we had like yeah burn this fucking place down yeah i'm like wait which one of you bitches did it for real like so um yeah so she's sending me videos on instagram of people like recording like there's like it's on like news like out you know like little outlet videos of the club legitimately on fire and i'm like oh and it was in this like um

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almost like a strip mall kind of a thing, which is also like funny for a strip club to just, it's like, you know, the subway fucking taco spot strip club. Like it's just, I kind of love that though. But the whole, like all of the businesses like burnt down to the ground. So it wasn't like just the club, which was like unfortunate for like others, other people's businesses and stuff. But yeah.

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So I was joking and like, oh my God, I bet she's somebody, someone's like crazy ex-boyfriend or something. And that actually genuinely ended up being what happened. So apparently some, this girl that worked there, her, or her man or something. He went there at like five in the morning, it was closed, and threw a Molotov in there. Yeah. That's crazy. Burnt the whole thing down.

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Yeah, burnt, like gone. And so I was like, oh, well, definitely not going to go to work tonight.

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Yeah, oh, so I'm just like, literally just like ashes around me. I'm just like still with the Poland.

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survive like literally i'm just like come on guys like imagine if the ball still was up i bet they still be like you guys can still dance oh it's actually like the strip club doesn't close for anything when i first started working and i was dancing in boston oh my god they only closed on weirdly enough fourth of july okay and then

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and the guys who frequent the strip club love that yeah no literally and the owners it's just like every white guy ever so i'm like okay i guess didn't close for christmas like any other big holiday they closed for fourth of july and then they would do um there was a party once a year like a holiday party and they would close that night for the holiday party that was it right nothing else

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so and there was like really bad snowstorms in Boston too and the way that that club worked is you were on like a schedule you would you would pick the days that you'd want to go like two weeks before and you would have to like commit to that schedule and if you couldn't get somebody to cover your shift you would have to like have another girl cover your shift and what we would do this is actually so bizarre because this like that was my first club that I ever worked at so I didn't know that other clubs like weren't run this way

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way most clubs like could give two fucks if you show up or not like regardless there's gonna be girls that'll come work and like yeah it's fine um but the like if you didn't get someone to cover your shift that you would get like in trouble so we would like offer money like a hundred dollars take my shift so i'm like why am i paying somebody to like paying other people to not work like yeah so like you know people would like have to take other girls shifts and you know and then if somebody wouldn't do it they'd be like all right two hundred dollars somebody's

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The bids would go up. That's how bad I don't want to work. Yeah. The bids would go up. It was just very bizarre. So I remember the New Year's Day, the club was open. And this is when I was kind of like a newbie. So they were like, you have to work New Year's Day because nobody else wants to. I was like, okay, fine. So it was me and like six other girls. And it was such a bad snowstorm.

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It was freezing. The heat goes out at the club. Okay. I'm not even joking. The top of the pole was like frosted. That's how cold it was in there. And we're literally in freezing.

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fucking lingerie just like freezing our asses off yeah to the point where there was like three customers but our boss was like you guys could like wear your coats if you want i'm like hey what's the point i'm like hey so i'm in a north face and stripper heels right now like what the fuck this looks insane and he like literally we were like walking around in like full-blown winter coats and heels and i'm wearing a pea coat and yeah

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i look like a like a flasher literally i'm just like like it was so i'm like this is just hey let's close they like send somebody to like walmart to go get space heaters i'm like how about we just wrap it up yeah like there's three people here didn't do this yeah i'm like crazy idea but let's just go the fuck home but so bizarre i'm like what the hell like and you're not even missing out on money because there's like there's nobody here yeah it's so dead

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Yeah. Honestly, the Mozart of our generation, my Mozart for real. Like, no, so good. I, I, he has so many, like,

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They're just like literally like shriveled up.

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But you want to know what's even worse is when they go, this, this is also a phenomenon too. They go get bricked up together and then they're like, well, you know, I can't leave him though. I can't like, they're like, they don't want to like go like leave him to go do a private dance. They're like, well, are you going to be like, are you going to be good if I go?

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it's five like it's five minutes tops you guys are fine you'll be totally fine he could like he'll be able to navigate without himself like without you he's okay like so bizarre that's also like another phenomenon usually it's when guys come in like groups of like three or more yeah it's like yeah that's kind of how it is but also too when it's just two guys coming together i'm like oh so you guys want to kiss each other

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God, literally that I've actually never been to a male strip club.

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If I hear one grunt. Oh my God. If you even struggle a little bit. You better not strain yourself.

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Yeah, no, put me the fuck down. You're not going to embarrass me today on my birthday.

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I'm sweating reliving it because I'm so panicked. I'm panicked. And then just imagining your head dangling like, what the fuck is going on? Everything you see is upside down. Everyone in the crowd is upside down.

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I ain't making it to Lady Gaga. Just like, yeah, you're like, I'm sorry, Gaga. Forgive me, Gaga.

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i'm not trying to find out you're like it's so it's so funny too how different like the male versus like women like it's two completely different like industries and worlds and like you said it's literally just like the hermit guys like just like hunched over and like you know what i mean i mean not all the time like that's also another thing too a lot of times when guys will come in and they're like a decently like they look okay you know what i mean it's like you're just like a normal

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normal fucking looking guy yeah they're like you probably don't get to dance with guys that look like me all the time do you probably like make your day a little bit better i'm like oh shut the fuck up i'm just like bro i don't give a fuck literally who is in this chair right now like please i'm not really looking at faces yeah i'm like actually i'm not here i'm not looking for love like i'm not really i mean like this yeah bro i'm at work right now like it's really not that serious i know one of my friends uh i have a few friends who have danced before and they've told me like one of the most annoying ones they would get would be like

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Oh yeah. Let me take you away. Let me save you. Literally like, girl, like, yeah, come with me. You don't have to do this anymore. Like one that kills me too. It's also just like, you're too pretty to do this.

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what the hell are you talking about that's the whole job that's the whole shit that's literally i'm like so you're telling me you paid the cover fee because you wanted to come in here and see ugly bitches like what do you mean by that like like bro you stop acting like for real oh my god yeah knock it off yeah but that's like honestly i feel like i'm kind of like having a full circle moment now where now that i'm like okay doing my little content and shit and like making a little coin i'm like okay i want to go to the club and be that i mean like baby i could take you out of here

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for real girl actually i could take you away from like i just want to cosplay that like just i just need to feel what that's like to be on the other end you know what i mean yeah to play a big baller uh it says that you had a podcast called vacancy at vanilla's you have one currently and you said you want to revisit it yeah so i like took a little bit of a break i've been on a break for for from the podcast sorry i've been on a break from the podcast for a few months because uh i wanted to kind of huh

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I mean, like, these are, like, these are bangers.

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yeah so I I'm taking a little bit break from it for right now but I want to possibly revisit it I think it's fun like don't get me wrong I love the podcast because it's just like a little yap session like yeah by myself yeah but I've been trying to do like yeah more vlogs and stuff lately but the podcast is really

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i'm sorry but now i can't wait for that to be you you being dj mustard oh yeah and then i'm gonna go enjoy your set yeah i'm looking forward to i know i'm honestly i'm just like that's why i just want to get up there and just like do stuff that like no one's ever done like and i don't know papa titty like i don't know like it's just something like it just needs to be different it needs to be like it's like you said it's just like the white guys it's like okay we get it like the fist bump it's like it's so tired like i need to do something different something out of the box yeah

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really fun because yeah, I literally just feel like I'm just like on FaceTime with somebody like I'm just sitting there kind of just like, I've had my friend Rachel on like a few episodes, but other than that, it's usually just me just like in my room, just fucking yapping for an hour and love it. It's so much fun.

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anyways what was i saying yeah he goes you told me you saw something on instagram and i go oh right oh yeah those two broke up yeah can you believe it like that was it that was the whole story that was all you had to say really though like no yeah i i feel that i kind of get like a little carried away even on twitch sometimes they'll like ask me a question and i'll start answering the question and then like completely like and they're like well you never answered the first question

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always like constantly and that's the thing too like with the podcast I um everyone's always just like so as far as like the editing like you know you have to like edit it I'm like oh no I purposely like try to talk for the hour straight so that there's very minimal editing like I don't really there's not a lot of cuts I'm like I just try to keep it fucking going

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I don't like to edit more than I have to. I'm like, I'm like, let's just keep it rolling. Yeah, I know. So I'm like, it's usually just the uninterrupted full stream of conscious.

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yeah exactly yeah exactly and that's the thing too at the end of the day too it's like even with like twitch and stuff like people will ask me like oh like what kind of like you know what's what stuff do i need like as far as like the computers and the lights and i'm like my bill my like little setup is so bare bones it's so like low budget i'm just like

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it's just it's whatever like barely just works but yeah it's more about like the content that you as a person can like produce like it's at the end of the day they're like they're there to watch you you know what i mean like some people's favorite streamers literally stream off of like a 30 fucking webcam that like sucks but they love the the person behind the camera exactly you know what i mean so like yeah so it doesn't always have to be like this you know yeah like people are like

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No, you're so me because I, this is actually really funny. I had never like growing up, like we just had like the family computer. I never really like had a laptop or anything. So, and I didn't go to college. So I'm like, I never fucking needed one.

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I'm like a high school was done where I'm like, cool. Okay. Yeah.

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Into the strip club. Yeah.

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but like i genuinely i never really needed like a laptop or anything so i never had one yeah and um i had got one for the first time in like probably like 2021 i was just like okay like laptop time like like i just want to be like grown and sexy i don't know i bought it never fucking touched it never touched it sold it because i'm like i don't even use this thing and then like when i started when i actually started the podcast i'm like okay i actually need to

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you're watching no i'm laughing at myself oh my god and people will always be like i think it's so funny how you find yourself so funny like like they'll clip me and i'll watch it back and i laugh as if it wasn't me that just did that 10 fucking minutes ago i'm like that was hilarious they're like bro it's you i'm like so what it's still funny like no anyone else you'd be laughing too yeah right i'm like i don't care i watch my own shit back i'm like

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Okay, so basically, I posted a TikTok one day, and I literally posted it and closed my phone, went to bed, and I woke up and had, like, a million likes. I'm like, what the – like, I just – it was, like, 2018. I'm like, I don't even know how this app works, so I'm being honest.

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Oh, my God.

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Wait, stop. I'm so excited. Oh, my God. It's Christmas. This is so fun.

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Wait, I don't have this. Oh.

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Okay, unlike the Christmas tree, these ones are actually all really fucking cute. I am really going to be happy with this one, the ganta, this pink one, or this one in the middle, the skeleton.

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okay one i don't want really not fucking with the puppetry really not rocking with her yeah and then the carousel lanterns also kind of fucking lame so yeah i agree i was okay i really would love i would love the ganta too yeah i like this uh hill sensor one that's pretty sick oh yeah oh that's pretty

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And it was – okay, it's this video of me, and I have this light-up pinata that I got from this arcade. Mm-hmm. And it's just plastic and it has like a little stick that it comes with. And every time you hit it with a stick, it like changes a different color. And in the video, I'm just like, I'm going to act out a scene if I were on a date and this is what I would do.

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Let me see. Are they ruining it? Can they show you the card on top? Who'd you get?

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or the edits where it's like they put the sad music behind it and everyone's like a case that didn't sit right with me y'all are so annoying oh my god no literally what these are i love that they're in like a little like their own thing wait this is so much fun they have their own enclosures no this is really cute i do like yeah

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No, but I'm learning to love her already.

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Yes, exactly. I'm going to cherish her. No, genuinely, thank you. She's so cute. Thank you so much.

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Yeah, just like the Christmas trees. They were twins, so...

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I love you. My God.

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Okay. I would say again, like you don't need like all the bells and whistles, like literally just, just go for it. You know what I mean? And like people will find you like your little, your little crowd, like your, your niche, like they will find you if you post enough and like get yourself out there. Like the people that fuck with you will come and be like, girl, I fuck with you.

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Instagram Vanilla Mace with three L's. Twitch and TikTok is just Vanilla Mace. Period.

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No, literally. And look. And now look.

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Right.

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And so I like have a fucking pinata and I'm just like, let me set some mood lighting. And I just like beat the shit out of a pinata and it turns like a million different colors. And it just went like stupid viral, whatever. And I was like, oh, cool. Like, that's cool. And then I just like never...

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again because i was like this was back when like nobody took tiktok seriously they all thought it was like like musically like a joke kind of a thing so i just was like okay that's cool and then never really did anything with it um and then uh i started streaming on twitch in like 2021 and it was more just like for me like for fun and it would be like literally me and like four of my friends in the chat and i'd be like hey guys like

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yeah literally dumb bitches saying exactly like literally like my two brain cells in the thing like it was just like yeah and so it was more like for fun and for me something I would do like on my free time um and because I used to dance too I used to dance at the strip club and that was yeah like

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my god i'm so glad i'm out girl oh yeah i'm happy for you yeah thank you thank you but um so that was the thing too it was like it became something where i was like okay i mean i gotta i gotta work mom's gotta make some money so i couldn't really stream as often as i wanted to so i kind of like you know put that to the side for a little bit yeah and then um started posting more on tiktok doing the dj stuff and like just kind of random stuff and like gaining a little bit more of a following and then found out that you could go live on tiktok almost like a twitch kind of a thing where you could stream your like desktop and

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like play games on there too so i was like oh let me try this out and um that went really well and people were like come come over to twitch i was like girl i i was where were y'all at i was like i was there it was me and my three literally i was like where were you guys so um i eventually went back over there and then now it's kind of like what it is now like period yeah and then recently very recently you went super viral for the blind box yes and how i know i also know you have an extensive collection i know you love to collect

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It's perfect.

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I feel her on that. Like, no, literally I'm like the, everything needs to be like in its little place untouched. Like, and I love it. It's just, I just love looking at it. It's just one of those things. I'm like, I love tiny things, anything cute and tiny. I'm like, sign me up. Yeah. Just, just sign me up. Literally. I'm like, Oh my God, just give it to me.

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Like he's, he's in too deep now. Yeah. That's so funny.

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She's done it for years. Oh my God. And then like, yeah, like a blind box. Like if there is just like, there's options. It's just like, it's girl gambling. That's really all it is. It's just, it's girl gambling. It's like, it's just, it's fun. It's a mystery. It's exciting. The adrenaline every time I'm like, yeah, this like this, this fits.

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it doesn't matter how old you are you can still buy things that bring you joy yeah okay like why do we have to act like yeah like we can't just like stuff anymore like i have to okay like let me get my briefcase and here i go like like please like can i just like like a little sunny angel somebody you crack you crack your briefcase it's all sunny angels yeah no literally i'm like all skull pandas yeah yeah let me go through my files yeah

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I was like, I love this.

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I mean, I think it would be cool to have like some sort of little like cameo on like a little show or something. That'd be cool to have a little like side project.

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you know role where they're like wait i've seen her like something cute like that i would live i think that'd be that would be cool um i've like dabbled in that the idea of like doing some sort of like acting kind of a thing i think you would thrive and you have an unclockable face and i'm being so dead as you have a beautiful gorgeous face oh my god thank you so much and that's half the battle oh yeah honestly i know seriously yeah yeah but oh my god thank you so much yeah of course

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Oh my God. That is so funny. That was like, I feel like one of the kind of like little like schtick series things that I did that kind of people were like, still to this day, like people will be like, I love your DJ videos. I'm like, girl, it's been like three years since I did one of those, but thank you.

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i'm one of those people i'm like i hate my side profile so i'm always just like so bad like literally so bad it's like this like meme in my community like whatever they'll like screenshot they're like oh here we go like here's your side proof like and they'll like send it i'm like enough enough like they know how much i hate it and they're like oof this is not a good angle i will say when i started like doing this for a living i had never looked at myself more

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You're like, oh, okay. I thought that there was, like, the extra small, extra large version.

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Yeah, consider the fact that maybe a few pounds could have been added on. Like, no, this one's, like, it's shrunk in the wash or something.

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What did you mean by that? So let's break that down actually. So when you say that.

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Am I literally like, what do I look like on this camera to you people? Like I'm actually scared. No. Any sort of backhanded thing like that, oh my god, literally grinds my gears so bad.

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I know. I posted a video not too long ago about there's this woman at my gym and she... every time she sees me this is like the fourth time that she's done it she's like i know you probably hate your hair i know you probably hate it but i love it she's like no i think it is so cute it is so cute i know you really probably hate it i'm like wait

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That's so funny. Thank you so much.

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i'm actually this is like i want my hair to look like this i'm like wait uh and i'm like oh you're i've actually never felt more confident about yeah i'm like actually wait i really like you i'm like wait should i shave it off again like i don't know so i'm like oh this is like i'm not this is like the third or fourth time she's done this like i see her like multiple times like the first time it was like your hair is so cute your little curls and then it like progressively got like more and more like like now i feel like she's gonna be like your hair i know you cannot fucking stand it

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it like i feel like it's just gonna get worse every time i see this woman so here she comes ugly haircut girl i'm like what what did i do but it's it's like and i don't even know how to respond in that moment because she's so she's genuinely so nice like i really don't think she realizes like meaning to be rude you know what girl yeah i love my fuck ass haircut i guess you know whatever yeah you're right you're right i fucking love your haircut thank you

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No, actually I am. still scared I really have not been practicing if I'm being honest so we're gonna kind of just wing it and see how it goes don't if they're watching this and people who booked me just you know it's going great it's really going great but um yeah so I am excited about that but I mean, nervous, but it's gonna be great. I think so. It's all about vibes.

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Like she hit me and I wasn't even like her. Like, like behind the, like take me out in the back of the barn behind the head. Like, like, Oh my God. Like, are you kidding me?

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I said, girl, let me get up. Like literally. Oh my God. That's so funny. There was actually, this is.

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so humbling but what genuinely one of the funniest comments like that i've ever seen i did a jubilee video a while back and it was one of those like dating by like it was like by body type kind of a thing okay and so we're it's we're literally like damn near in our underwear and it's like one of the ones where they pull the curtain up and stuff and um

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So at one point in the video, I say, this is still before my face is like, before you could see my face. And I say like in the video that like, oh, I dance. Like, you know, I dance at the club because they ask like what we do for a living. Yeah. And so I'm like scrolling through the video. It got like so many views. I'm like looking through the comments one day.

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I'm like, let me see what people are talking about.

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you know what I mean and for the most part everyone's being so nice they're like oh my god all the girls are so sweet and amazing like love this this cast such a cute group there's one comment it goes where'd she dance at the gas station he said oh oh oh right and I got a kick to it that was a little kick to it literally still to this day I'm like no no he like that was so fucking funny I was like wait I was like oh Jubilee can we delete that fucking video like get it the whole like the whole thing delete it now

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There's a couple of them. Hentai. Hentai. And shibari.

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A lot of people refer...

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Shibari is part of the hentai.

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Of course.

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A light noose. It's a whole thing.

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Oh, yeah, it's a whole thing.

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All at the Grand Cayman. Yeah. Yeah. I just watched it recently, too. Paradise and Grand Cayman.

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Where's that?

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Yeah, his family.

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I know. I'm surprised he's still getting bookings.

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He said that before, right?

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Yeah, definitely.

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Oh, that's such a fun thing.

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Steve, you will never get laid.

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Yes, across the street.

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To point to people? Yes.

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Yeah, I agree.

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That's not going to be Chrissy's lot in life.

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Fashion.

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You do.

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Everything that you touch turns from gold.

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Peep-peep-poop-poop.

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No, that's what you have to do. I drank, yes.

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Are you ready for the best three minutes of your life? Okay, start the clock. I'll be right back. What do we have, a minute and a half?

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I'm coming in. I'm coming in hot. Here I come. There I go.

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People have told me before, they've said, I would pay for this advice. And then they never take it. So it's like... Okay. All right.

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You have to have all the failures. But then you also have to have some successes.

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I haven't watched it all the way through either.

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I'll tell you that I love you.

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I'm going to Coachella to see Diplo.

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That's a good idea.

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I know. Me too.

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Set guys out of jail.

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I'm sorry. You're just going to say one of them bit me and drew blood and not tell me the entire story? What's wrong with you?

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I'm absolutely desperate to hear.

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It's his deflowering time over here.

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All right.

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It's all going back to one thing.

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Pervert behavior.

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But you're like, still, what's going on in that brain?

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I love it.

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Can't wait for her to find out about Twilight.

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Lovely, lovely rain.

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Juli-Party.

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That's why we do it here so much.

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And I was absolutely horrified by it because I had never read Smut at Smutty before. Smutty Smut, huh? A big plot point is the biting. And they were like, it's got to do with your mate. And when you bite them and you leave the scar or the mark, even though they can heal, it's like, oh, they leave the scar and that means that you're mine. Or you have to scratch them too or something.

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I don't think you would want a relationship.

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It's crazy to start mixing pain and pleasure at 15.

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For various different reasons. That hurts me inside.

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I mean, I don't know the way to put it. Well, it's always just like, I just don't want to hurt you. I don't want you to hurt me. Please. I just want everyone to have a nice time.

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And there's nothing wrong with that. No. I did get bitten once on my arm. I just remembered while you were talking about it.

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Yeah. And I had a big bruise from it. And I had some stuff to film the next few days. And it was there and obvious. And I was like, Jesus Christ.

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This is all over. This McDonald's job, you better become the store manager.

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I don't care. Two summers feels like a lot. One summer I get.

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That is so true.

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Well, yeah, I don't know. You don't know? I don't know. Well, I'm just thinking he must have been so scared. He'd never been out there. I know.

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That makes me so sad.

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Because he probably got killed just so fast. And he was probably so scared. But I don't think his life was good at all. In any way. No offense.

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I thought he was in a box in the garage.

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Maybe he was having fun then.

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It's so funny. I do know someone who has pet rats and they love them.

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Just give me a little love nibble. That's cute. He knew not to draw blood.

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I'm good. I'm chilling. My sister has moved back from Costa Rica, so unfortunately I don't live alone anymore.

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Maybe he did. We can think that.

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Yeah, yeah. Oh, Drama Drop. It's good. It's been fun.

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That's true. He gave you a try.

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Willie found a way. Good old Willie. I think of you all the time, Willie.

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Attention. We're always starting some drama about nothing.

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No, not really. Not real fights. Do you bicker? Bicker, yeah.

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Oh, my God.

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Well, we don't do that. Because I think that that's kind of fucked up.

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Christmas rat ambience. Christmas rat.

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Yes. Yeah, okay, just checking. Yeah, it's weird.

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I'm like, stop, no one even likes you.

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And that's fair enough. You have the most content to not like you for, you know?

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No, we are the kind of people who, like, yell, like, we get into a fight and we yell at each other, and then we both storm off, and then we immediately start talking again.

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Because it's like, okay, you're obviously, if you're not saying anything... Ist es, weil es Informationen über dich gibt?

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Oh yeah, that was a horrific video of him dragging that girl down the hallway. I saw that against my will, but I was like, holy mother of God.

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Yeah, it's sickening.

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A lot of baby oil. Ay, ay, ay, Christina. It's not even, I don't, I can't look at baby oil ever again.

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Let's just be real about it.

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I know.

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I know. Who knows? I know.

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That's how you know he was a pervert.

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Ja, meine Eltern sahen nicht die Sonne, bis sie nach Atlanta kamen. Ja, weil du... Ich bin in Atlanta geboren, aber... Aber du bist geboren... Ich bin in Atlanta geboren. Oh, ich dachte, du bist aus dem Land geboren. Nein, meine Eltern sind beide aus... Na ja, meine Mutter ist aus Skotland und meine Eltern aus England.

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First of all, Scotland is not part of England. I'm sorry. Yeah, they're still part of the United Kingdom.

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I mean, they talk about independence, but personally, I don't think it's a good idea. And my family is very pro staying in the UK. But who knows?

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Ah, you know, it's tricky. I'm kind of anti-monarchy, but I think my parents are like pro the royals. I think it's just part of their generation. They're all just like much more connected to like the idea of the royal family, whereas like me and my sisters are like, what the fuck?

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She's like, I hate the way you handle conflict, Brian.

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We're like, they're all scammers.

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I don't know. It's weird. I'm just like, this just doesn't make sense to like someone who grew up in America. I'm just like, what the fuck is this?

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Yeah, 100%.

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More girls in bikinis.

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Das ist furchtbar. Und ich weiß nicht, ich denke, es hat sich so geändert. Und ich denke, meine Generation ist so, können Sie nicht? Wir sind einfach so, was ist das für ein Scheiß? Wir haben einfach nicht eingeladen, dass alle so schrecklich dumm sind, dass diese Randos in Kraft sind. Aber auch, dass wir sie aus der Macht nehmen. Warum geht all unsere Geld an sie? Das ist nicht ein Surfdom.

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Warum bezahlen wir ihre Werte?

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It's weird. I'm like, literally all they're doing is like PR. They're just like going around like visiting hospitals and stuff.

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This might come off like super ignorant because we really don't know, but I don't know.

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Oh, you mean not The Queen. The Crown. The Crown.

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I was like, what are you talking about? Watching the Queen for four seasons? I was like, she is dead. I don't know if you know that.

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Und es gibt einen gewissen Pädophilen in ihren Ränken. Prinz Andrew.

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Er ist ein schrecklicher Perfektionist.

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Why are we as a country paying for this pedophile to continue living under a roof that our taxes provided? Yeah, I know. It's crazy. But then again, you look at America and you're like, well, this place is fucked too. Yeah, this place is fucked up too.

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It's just sad and scary.

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So it's really easy for you to get sucked down the pervert rabbit hole.

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Well, I guess he'll be around for long. I don't know. I don't think the royals will ever give up their power.

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Well, I personally loved seeing Harry leave the royal family. That's great. My parents hate him. Oh, really? Yeah, they're like, oh, Harry and Meghan Markle are horrendous. It's so weird to me, because they're just like pro-royal, I guess. I don't know. They're like, he betrayed his country, blah, blah, blah, blah. Which is like, you know, a viewpoint. So weird. Yes. Es ist eine Sichtweise.

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Es ist eine Sache. Es ist nicht meine. Nein, es ist nicht meine auch. Ja, es ist einfach seltsam, aber ich denke auch, dass es ein Symptom ist, wo sie geboren haben, wann sie geboren haben und, weißt du.

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Thanks for having me.

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Mine's all like scraping off like scalp psoriasis.

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It hurts.

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My god, I love the 4th of July.

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So satisfying to watch. Okay. All right.

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Couldn't escape if you tried.

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It's no longer chicken.

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It's this anthropology.

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It's anthropology.

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That's what I say reality TV is. I'm like, it's an anthropological study and that's why I'm watching it.

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I don't know why. Okay, sorry. I've got to wipe the look of disdain and shock off of my face. No, no, no.

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We're in summer.

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Summer's your favorite season?

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I love... Look at my face! Sorry, I'm... He's so tan that I'm completely blown out in this camera. I know.

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I think I'm going to have to start fake tanning before I come here. Yeah, you might. I think I will.

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Let's savor the flavor. Summer is my least favorite season.

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Yeah, I can't handle the heat. You melt? I'm weak. I need the cold. I love winter in Georgia and I love fall and I love early spring.

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Ich denke, es hängt wirklich davon ab, wie ich mich fühle. Okay, fair genug. Aber ich preferiere generell coolere Wetter. Ich bin so nicht für den Heat gebaut. Ich werde angrier, ich werde mehr depressiv. Es wird so in meinem Kopf. Ich habe das Gegenteil von seasonal affective disorder. Ja. Ja, du auch. Mehr Sonne, mehr Depression.

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Right now I'm really into like snowy cabin with a fire and like Christmas tree. Okay. And I like put that on and you hear like the wind outside.

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So for you, it's coming home and getting to do that earlier than you normally would. Yeah, it's relaxation.

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I'm sorry. You're just going to say one of them bit me and drew blood and not tell me the entire story? What's wrong with you?

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I'm like windows open, make my house 55 degrees.

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I was going to say like that Campbell's like condensed cream of mushroom soup. Yes. But...

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You want me to tell this story?

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And it's soup season. Another reason to love fall slash winter.

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Bread bowls. Bread bowls.

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Ja, Brotwürfeln sind für Karblöten.

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I'm absolutely desperate to hear.

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You need carbs for your brain to function. That's it, yeah. Sorry, those are the rules.

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Yeah, you need something.

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Of course.

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It'll be fine.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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Where they put you in a corner?

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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Yeah, I did not go with you.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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Perry Mason.

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I sure hope the retirement village is listening. You can bet Judy is.

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He's like, I'll be right back, Joan. Yeah. I got to go to the grocery store. That's funny. He hasn't been to the grocery store by himself in 26 years. He's sitting out in the public's parking lot. Best to you, Brian. Best to you.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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Yeah, like a beer now.

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I'm Theresa and my recommendation to all entrepreneurs is to start with Shopify successfully. I've been using Shopify since the first day and the platform never makes me any problems. I have a lot of problems, but the platform is never one of them. Ich habe das Gefühl, dass Shopify ihre Plattform kontinuierlich optimiert. Alles ist super einfach, integrier- und verlinkbar.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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Und die Zeit und das Geld, das ich dadurch spare, kann ich anderweitig investieren. Vor allem in Wachstum.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

189.192

And you want me to pay a couple bucks for a natty ice out of your cooler, DJ Dan? A guest of honor. A guest of honor. A guest of dishonor.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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Ha, ha, ha, ha.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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Will she, won't she?

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I'll be here.

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A guest of honor.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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Yes, yes, yes.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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Oh, my God.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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We're here now. Yeah, we're here now.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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Yeah. Like, where is the bar? Where is the bar?

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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It's me, Brian.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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Surprise! You're on camera. Yeah. Happy birthday. We'll open up this black door. And it's a pool?

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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Yep, yep, yep.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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The cardboard. Yes.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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But it's okay. I'll figure it out. I'm determined.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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So let's take a break, and I'll tell the rest of the story. We'll be back.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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You'll make this rather snappy, won't you? I've got some really heavy thinking to do before 10 o'clock.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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I remember that show.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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And you want me to pay a couple bucks for a natty ice out of your cooler, DJ Dan? I'm a guest of honor. Guest of honor. Guest of dishonor. So I throw a fiver down and I grab two.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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Absolutely.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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Jason. Jason.

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Oh, yeah.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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Yeah, he must be.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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Get me out of here.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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And he left tracks all the way to the street.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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Oh, yes. That tracks with the whole era.

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That was, of course.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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No, of course he wasn't.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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The pool.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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And a security guy.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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Years later, that has made the commercial break. So, you know what? That was the payoff.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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Everybody's ripping off everybody.

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Don't worry about it.

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Oh, too funny.

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The worst to you. It's very catchy and hilarious.

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The spirit is there. Trust me.

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I remember that one. That's good. This podcast is fucking sad.

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In my defense.

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None of which are great.

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I like the harmonization afterwards.

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Walking The Cardboard Carpet!

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Oh, it's great. It was fantastic. I love it.

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Mm-hmm.

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Hit 'Em With The Helicopter

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The higher-ups are concerned about one thing, and that is avoiding scandal.

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Wow. This is the first time I have seen a vagina. Yeehaw.

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Time to see some poo-poo. Time to see some poo-poo?

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I'm looking for the dick that I want to suck for the first time.

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He's got good balls.

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There's the butt.

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Guess we'll never find out. Oh.

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Snappy with a comeback. She was under the impression that I was a bit innocent. I would argue that she's probably mistaken.

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I had a good look when she looked at me before. Did you? He's missing a tooth. Did you see that? Did anybody else see that? He's missing a front tooth. Revolver. Very nice, yeah? Nice and neat.

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Pretty girl. And I like a fringe. But it just wasn't to be, was it? He's really disappointed. Wow.

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She is? Which we'll see. What are you talking about?

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Frankie B Is Also, Taking Up Space!

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It's a daisy and her daughter's name is Daisy.

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I'd actually like to hear from the other people that weren't. Yeah, well. Eddie Perry or Lauren Sanchez.

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You did it.

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What? I don't know. You got on.

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Sounds like they got a lot of training.

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They don't even know what it's called.

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She's got floor-and-sandals on, like, high-heeled boots, too.

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So Lauren has said there was death out there. Katie has said daisies. And Gail's saying sex with the gods. Fucking the gods. That's right.

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Look what that did.

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Navigate the world.

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Classic gray background.

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What are you waiting for?

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He's got scissors.

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Even though he doesn't cut hair.

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Yeah. I'm rising up out of the pool.

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Welcome to today's video.

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If you're a guy in your mid-30s.

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You dress like shit. Your wife is fat. You're ugly.

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Your hygiene is terrible.

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You got pimples on your nose.

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You stop brushing your teeth.

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Please. When's the last time you put on deodorant? I can smell you from here. But stick around. I got some useful tips.

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I think that's a good way of putting it. They went up really, really high.

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I would not consider that necessarily space.

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Go on BMG Music and order 100 CDs for a penny.

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Well, I guarantee you that they don't have Frankie's style.

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You don't give a rat's ass.

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And that's not true either. Plenty of men that I know care about their skin.

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And this is where you're really... We looked at the men's magazines lately, Chrissy. It's a known fact.

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And unfortunately... I mean, the guy that he is painting really is amazing.

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Old, weathered, cracked face. Is the typical orange beach. Nose hair blasting out of the nose. Ear hair blasting out. Old, you know, no hygiene. Not brushing your teeth. Hair, old style hair. I mean, wow.

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Yeah, yeah, there it is.

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I'm saying that is on the low end.

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You're fat. You're ugly. Your skin's a mess. You got nose hair growing out of there. Your job, your boss is talking about you behind your back.

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You're going to kick yourself right in the balls. That's the funniest thing I've heard all day.

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Yeah, he's trying to kick people in the balls.

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Well, chacharita, Brian. Ay, chacharita.

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Nothing like breaking your ass at the gym. All right. I can't wait to see what Frankie puts in his mouth. Let's take a break and we'll be back.

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Cha-cha-rita. Cha-cha-rita. Ay, ay, ay, caramba, cha-cha-rita.

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His body. Oh, okay. The body that you've all of a sudden built up by eating horribly.

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Yeah, no, but why didn't they just say, we just wanted to do this and go up really, really high. Go on the best ride.

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Yes. Is this a useless exercise in me talking through this camera? Yes. Yes, it is. That's all my advice. Completely nonsense.

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The resources.

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Yeah, you need to wear two small shirts.

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Turn a guy to Moo Moo.

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Moo Moo walking around. Here I come with my nose hair and my sales job and my ugly wife and my Moo Moo from Walmart.

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Once again, a picture like a hunched over man.

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His wife is like something from the Blue Lagoon. Frankie, you paint a picture, man. You really do.

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You've got $100,000 in debt.

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You owe Macy's $250,000.

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Based on appearance. Said every therapist ever.

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I like that back pocket, Frankie.

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Remember, too, that one that we reviewed where he was eating all the stuff that, like... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was mimicking somebody. Mimicking somebody that would... That would eat ho-hos.

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His travel days were good, too.

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I just wish they would paint it more as we just wanted to go on this amazing ride.

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I mean, honestly. Yeah, well, apparently Sanchez, what's her, Lauren Sanchez.

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She designed or got the, you know, commissioned the design and everything.

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Because I don't know what else could have happened.

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Like a big sigh of relief. You were supposed to come back down after a few minutes.

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Deep breath, Brian.

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She's got floor and sunshades on like high heel boots too.

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With a T. Well, that's all it was, right? It was to go up there and see the overview.

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Like the pictures have shown.

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And that's why I came back. And now I want to help the guy from El Salvador.

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Now I've got to get back to planning my wedding.

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That's why the yacht that I get on next week.

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A 12 foot by 12 foot by 12 foot box. Yes.

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Tell us who all you love.

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Brian's back with her. Brian's back with Spitzleton. Locked you out of your apartment. Called your mom a bitch to her face. Screamed and yelled at you in front of everybody at the mall. Broke your window. Broke your window. Slashed your tires. Whabam! The hard ones want the hard ones.

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I'm going to be a star, dad. Dad, I'm Eddie Vedder. Sonny, shut up. Why? Why can't it be? Why? You know what could be yours, Brian? The garage! Go there!

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Christina, all these people are service workers waiting.

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The guy has a yacht that has a yacht inside the yacht.

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I know.

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And he tried to spin a record on top of it.

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Where's the smoke machine?

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I'm picturing it.

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Wicky, wicky, wicky. Drop the acid.

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But to be fair, there was no one there to close the club with.

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I love you. Best to you. Best to you.

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I mean, listen, okay, you got to shit, you got to shit. What are you going to do? The trucker was, I mean, he just had to go.

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What does that mean, Milt? Well, what that means is we were having a pretty good time when we left the bar. And we pretty much did the streets of San Diego. You did the streets of San Diego.

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What?

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What are you talking about there, Milt? Well, when I first saw her, she had a pirate shirt on. And all I could see besides her beautiful breasts were that little belly button.

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Can we repeat them? The Pacific Ocean is just a puddle compared to our deep desire.

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Well, compared to our desire for each other, I think the Pacific Ocean is just a part of it.

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Oh, the way she touches me, the way she holds me.

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Miltie. What does that mean, Milt? Well, what that means is we were having a pretty good time when we left the bar. And we pretty much did the streets of San Diego. You did the streets of San Diego.

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Well, if Sherry brought me breakfast in bed, I just would never want to stop eating.

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30 in the morning!

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I can do anything! Come on, raise your hands if you understand! Yeah! Come on! How many of you people know you're alive? How many of you people know you're really alive?

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Converge your brain.

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Mm-hmm.

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

GOP Wants Greenland Now, Fires Rage in LA, NYC Rages at Congestion Toll

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Sie können sich um Frauen kümmern, und sie können sich um Frauen kümmern.

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

GOP Wants Greenland Now, Fires Rage in LA, NYC Rages at Congestion Toll

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Greenland, strategisch macht es Sinn, weil es der Halbpunkt ist zwischen unserem Land und den USA. Also würde es Sinn machen, das für eure Ziele zu haben.

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Congestion pricing is official.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler

1120.633

Minor penalty, two minutes. Spreading propaganda.

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The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler

1344.63

Don't let him fool you. He said in the break that he's jittery.

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The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler

1359.488

He also said it's a stain on the organization that every star leaves here. Even him felt like he had the most balanced take I've seen. They push everyone out at some point.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler

1625.37

Shaq had Wade here, too, though, at least to be like, I know Shaq was bigger than Wade, but Wade's still there doing it, whereas Butler, he's the guy.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler

2044.804

I can just see Hawk's head just continuing to spin, so I'm going to give you a little second here to breathe. This episode of the Dan Levitard Show is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler

2115.754

That QB throwing it.

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The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler

2117.795

That QB throwing it.

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The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler

2119.856

That QB throwing it.

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The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler

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That QB throwing it. Let me see what you got, Bo Nix. That QB throwing it.

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The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler

2128.1

That QB throwing it.

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The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler

2130.141

That QB throwing it.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler

2132.202

That QB throwing it.

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The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler

2134.243

That QB throwing it.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

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2287.673

I feel like I have the best quarterback that just has the debate of, is he a guy or the guy? Jared Goff.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler

2448.786

Be careful here.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler

2526.957

We should have fined Dan for that mistake. And if we did, it would be with the Venmo fine bucket. Oh, Chris.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler

2544.85

You can send it to the Venmo Fine Bucket, which is, of course, presented by Venmo.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler

2574.9

$10 you owe.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler

2577.422

Just all the mistakes you've made. Okay. You did a lot.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler

406.134

Yeah. No. I mean, now, yeah, we get it now. In 92. Not now. Not in 92. Not in 83.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

Most Played Moment: How To ALWAYS Have Great Sex: The Orgasm Queen, Susan Bratton

403.119

Right. I hope he doesn't laugh.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

0.309

Right now, I think you'd very well go from four out of the 150 to like 20. Like that's a 5x. You've got a triple sitting on the $29 to 5k that you're not talking to the other seven people every week who've already paid you. So you got a triple there. So putting those together, it's a 15x from where you're at. So that's your 100k per month. Like we can do that. You can do that right now.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

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In the last week. Great.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

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Let's just say 150. is the last seven days find this 20 ish a day. And then he tries to start conversations with all of them. Right. How many of them get to, like, I would, I would want to know how many respond. Cause I don't know how many people respond, but, um, I wouldn't, I would want to know how many respond, how many get to the, basically the offer.

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Yeah, how much do you have into like, what he's doing? This guy, this setter, because right now, he's kind of like the choke point of the business, because you got 20, you know, 20 leads a day, think about like this, you got 20 leads a day that are coming in. And you're in per day, how many appointments would you is like, how many appointments would you say happen per day? phone call?

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No people who people who like, schedule a call?

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Do you have any idea how many calls per week, if that's easier?

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Calls like that he's taking, he's like calls taken is four per week. Does that sound right?

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Yeah. Okay. So here's the cool part. Like I'll always keep asking as I go through this, cause I'm looking for like big, big lifts. That's a big one because that means that right now you're getting 3% of the people who are coming for free to get on a call. If I'm looking at kind of standards, you could probably get to 10% buying. And so there's a huge amount of lift there. So that's it.

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And of the four that get on the call, do you know what percentage buy?

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You had two sales last week, one high ticket, one annual on the- Yeah, and I'm pretty sure I only had two sales calls as well.

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Okay, so that was a little even even a little bit less, right. So when he's setting, though, he's setting for you. So he's setting via DMS, he's not taking a call, you're taking the call, and then you down. So you basically sort them?

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Got it. And so you closed 100% last week, what would you say your normal close rate is?

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And last week was just a good week, though, because you closed 100% last week.

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Yeah. So, okay. I'm going to bet that, like, I mean, there's a lot of things, like I could go, I could go into the advertising side, but the thing is, is that like, if I find a massive win, then I will probably just focus almost all my attention on that. So there's one huge one here and we'll get to it, but okay. Let me just, let me just quickly look at YouTube.

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Cause that's where all your traffic's coming from. And then, and then we'll go from there. So the vast majority of people are not buying the $29 thing on the page. So 366 members. Can you look at conversions on that one for me?

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Yeah. No, he's pulling up. Here we go.

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Got it. So you have eight signups in the paid community that happened this last week. And that just happened straight from people clicking from one to the other. You sold one annual last week. So there's that. But besides that one, the other seven came just kind of organically ascending themselves.

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Yeah, I'm less concerned about that right now because the traffic source is your free group. What are you doing to ascend people from the $29 group into the 5K group?

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So you currently have people come to the free thing because that's what you push them to. And then your guy sorts them. And if he sets them, he sets a call for you. You anchor at five. Then if they say no, then you downsell annual. If they say no, then you downsell monthly. That's how it is right now. Got it.

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But last week into your $29 thing, just because you have this large community, the 3,600 or whatever, and the free community, you got seven people who just went to the page and just chose to buy for $29. Yeah. Okay. What are you doing to talk to those seven people? Hey guys, real quick, this podcast only grows from word of mouth, quite literally.

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There's no other way to grow a podcast than word of mouth. If there's some element of this that you think somebody else should hear or would be relevant to them, it would mean the world to me if you shared this via text, via Instagram, via DM, via whatever way you like to share stuff with the people you love. Thank you.

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We got some stuff. We got some stuff.

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Dude, you're an artist. This wasn't the job. It's fine.

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if it makes you feel better, I do this for a living. So don't worry about it. Okay. Now let's go to the advertising and I'll bet you we can pick out some stuff there and then, and then we'll go into the kind of the solutioning side. All right.

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yeah cool man okay can you go videos uh yeah you know how i'm gonna do it okay recent okay cool you get some good views man um you get really good views relative to your subscribers so that's good so you're yeah 56k subscribers you're getting it looks like call it 10k video it's really strong okay yeah yeah really good i've been um working on my

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So no, it's great.

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Okay, let's just click it. Okay, how to paint loose but realistic coastal scenes. All right, let's do it. So here's the good thing. You've got three things that are going well with the intro. We just need to add a couple. So you've got a promise, right? And you actually hooked with paint. So if you're struggling with this thing, I'm going to show you this thing.

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So that was like, you had those first two. A little bit later, you got into like semi-proof, I think. Yeah. And I think we can tighten the proof part up, which I'll explain in a second. There isn't a roadmap. And so I think that's, that's to me, that felt like the biggest thing that was missing because I'm looking at this video and it's however many minutes it was, but you know, decent length.

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And as me trying to put my viewer hat on, I'm like, where am I going from here?

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okay so i want to know kind of like what the road like what the road stops are and so i think it might be useful for you to you know maybe if you have like a fountain pen or because it's a little artistic or you know you'd know this better than me but like yeah you have you have your pain and your promise great proof i would pull way forward which is like i help thousands of people uh paint every day and you know i've been painting for 20 years like you want to get it really tight like i would practice it so it's like

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My name's Sam. I have helped over 2,000 people paint their first painting, and I've helped people go from beginner to advanced. In this video, I'm going to cover six things about gouache, right? Yep. And I wouldn't even mention that, like, I normally paint in oil because, like, You don't want to discredit yourself, right? And so we're going to cover number one, how to frame the scene better.

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Number two, how to hold the brush in a way for two different styles. Number three, you know what I'm going at, right?

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I think lead with that roadmap, I think will make a big difference in video retention. And you want that to all be covered within the first like 15 seconds.

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Yeah. And we want all of that to be covered in 10. I'm okay with the fact that you're showing that you're painting. I would love it if it flipped to you for a second though. I think that might be helpful. Just because also long-term, it's like, we want to build your brand, right? And so I think that might be kind of worthwhile. Yeah, thumbnails.

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You've been working with Kai and, you know, Kai's good. Something I would consider is I would I would consider having to like learn to paint these. So like think about it like this. The benefits that you have inside of a thumbnail are going to be something around risk. So like stop messing up. Right. Something around risk, something around speed. Right. Like do it faster. Do it in less time.

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Maybe these are taking forever. Do it in less time. or do it easier, right? And so I would experiment. I would experiment. Just run one, see how it does comparatively. And you should be able to turn on, I think it's turned on on all YouTube, but there's an A-B testing.

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Yeah. At your price point of $5,000, if someone were to tell me, hey, you want to learn how to paint and it was $5,000 and you work with a guy for a year, that seems like a reasonable price. That doesn't seem like, I know you have the element some people want to paint so they can also sell their paintings. I understand that.

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Yeah, so I would split test no copy because they are paintings is what your current thumbnails are. So the three kind of concepts I would be looking at are pure plain painting, number one, plain painting with Three words or less in terms of the words on the screen, because you don't want to take too much away from the painting, but you want it to be clear.

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When you're actually reviewing your thumbnail, text it to yourself on your phone, because that's going to be how small it is. And so what happens is a lot of people design thumbnails, design them on these big screens, but that's not how people consume them. So you want to, like, it's the easiest hack in the world.

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Just send yourself a text of the icon, and then you'll actually see how few words you can really put there where people can read them.

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And then the third concept that I would test is actually just a picture of your face, like, like kind of maybe with a brush and then the paintings in the background, because then again, that's going to get you like you more exposure long term rather than because this looks like a faceless YouTube channel.

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No, your hair was long. No, that's all good. Okay. So big picture, we need to double down on roadmap. You need to tighten up the time upfront. You need to know what your introduction is, like you personally, that you can frame for your proof. Ideally, you want the proof to be relevant to the thing you're talking about. So one is I've helped thousands of painters. That's kind of one level of proof.

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But if you're like, I've helped thousands of painters paint gouache, and it's one of the things that I enjoy doing in my free time or something like that, then now I have more relevance to the proof. We want it to be as relevant as possible. For example, just an idea is you could also think about like, have you sold, I'm sure you've sold paintings before, right?

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I think even just saying like, and I've sold many paintings that are gouache, right? Because then it's like, not just, I'm not just like saying I'm good. Like people have bought my paintings. And I think that kind of helps kind of bridge that gap. Okay, that's YouTube stuff. Can you, Kirby, can you click in real quick to the video just so I can look at the description? All right, cool.

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Let's see here. Free landscape painting blueprint. Okay.

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Yeah. Okay. And do you do the, do you integrate a CTA within the video?

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So I'll say this. We've found first third is because you'll probably get twice as many people to see it.

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But big picture, I don't think, it doesn't sound like that's the primary hook. Correct me if I'm wrong, though.

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Because you've seen YouTube retention curves kind of drop slowly. You don't want to do it up front because it's weird. You haven't done anything yet. But at about a third, it's like you've provided sufficient value that you can take 20 seconds and just be like, by the way, if you like this.

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And the key part is that with the CTA, again, you want to integrate it to something relevant that you just talked about. So it's not just like a commercial. Basically, you don't want even to feel like a commercial. You want it to just be really natural. And inside the blueprint, what I would do, because you're showing the digital, what I would do is I would print the blueprint out.

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And I would flip to the page that corresponds to some technique or something that you're showing and be like, so what I'm doing right here is actually on page 17 and show you opening and be like page 17 of this blueprint. And you guys can have it. It's free. You can just click below the link.

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You'll get way more people who will choose to opt in if you start doing or integrating your CTAs like that.

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All right, let's see here. Scroll down in this tutorial. So you do custom descriptions for each of them?

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Okay, so the $29 a month community, that's for people getting in, either learning to paint or trying to advance in their painting. For everyone listening, $29 is the middle, $5,000 a year is the top, and free is the bottom. Okay, so what's the delivery look like at small, medium, large? So what does it look like for free? Just keep it as tight as you can because I want to dive in.

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I think you're pretty... The rest of this stuff is whatever. You could have a pinned comment. which you can do on every video. And ideally you want to do it right after you post it because then you're, because if you're the creator, they're going to like yours the most and you can pin it.

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The reason I like pinned comments for YouTube CTAs is because if you change your descriptions in the future, which I'm a bit, I mass change all my descriptions at once. That's kind of how I do my stuff. So I feel like whatever I'm promoting, that's what's going to be in my description. But then the pin comment won't change.

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So it's like, if you have stuff that's relevant to your video, I would just make it the pinned first comment. And then that way you can basically take the big wave of YouTube traffic and point it wherever you want, you know, when it's, when it's appropriate. Does that make sense?

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Okay. Next thing is, uh, there's a feature on, um, on YouTube now that two things, one is that there's in video pop-ups, um, that you can now put in. And so I would put your lead magnet as a product that after you show it, it just stays in the bottom left corner so people can click it directly on the screen. And then secondarily, you can incorporate products underneath, right?

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And so I would at the very least do the first one. It's just have the blueprint sitting right there on the screen.

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I mean, it doesn't that YouTube's I mean, YouTube takes care of their their audience. Like it's kind of it's tucked away to the bottom left.

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Okay, let's go back to let's go back to the your landing page. Good thing is, is do you have any metrics around this? You were pulling those up? So what are the metrics for this page?

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Okay, yeah, but what's the conversion rate?

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Well, I mean, that would be great too, but like how many clicks go to the page? How many of them opt in? How many of them go to the free community? Like that's the funnel basically leading to your free community.

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Okay, well, whatever the landing page software is, I promise you they have a conversion rate metric that you can find.

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Okay, that's good. That's fairly normal for like a welcome sequence. So you're not missing anything big there. I would want to know what the conversion rate of the page is though, because that's where you're literally sending all your traffic there.

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One of the other considerations I'd have for that landing page, I told you the three bullets underneath. One of the other things I would consider is split test that because you have one image.

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One thing I would do is show like show one image, but show like four, like four.

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two two behind it and above two behind it and below so there's five images so just show some of the some of the techniques it's like open it up a little bit you know i mean rather than just the one image and so i would test that out and my second alternate would be uh you like if people recognize you from the videos did your first like you will for sure if you add your face to the page you will increase conversions if they're coming from you

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Okay, cool. All right. So that's conversion stuff. And I think all of those things could measurably improve the amount of traffic that you're getting. So we did all the YouTube stuff. We did some tiny tweak stuff. But these are kind of going to be the three biggies, all right?

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So big thing number one is we have to improve your conversion on your free offer to call. All right. And actually, I'm going to say these in order of priority. All right. So priority number one is those seven people per week that are signing on that you're not talking to for $29 a month. Yeah. They should get an onboarding call for free immediately included with that $29.

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So that's going to book you seven more sales calls a week. Right now you're taking like two. So like that can triple your business like that. And what we want to do is I'm sure you have some benefit for them subscribing to annual. Do they have some sort of benefit?

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bonus or thing that gets unlocked when they subscribe to annual yeah usually i've been giving them a free coaching call with me like three hour long coaching call sure so i would i would take so take that right and every one of those 29 people i would offer one two calls whatever in order for them to subscribe for the year and i think and if you wanted to if you wanted to be crazy here you give them a one month trial of your of your high end okay

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Okay. I'm going to get into the advertising side in a second, but just tell me. So you have free tutorials. What else are you doing there?

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If you want to make, like, if we want to get these people, they already paid 29. They already took their wallet out and said, I want to learn more. And so you say, how much more do you want to learn? Do you want more, you know, more time with me? Because here, think about it like this. You're going to give them one or two calls, right? One-on-one. Each of those are basically sales opportunities.

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Like you're not closing, but you're building trust, right?

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if they also have the two live classes per week that are happening at the, at the, uh, 5,000 level, like they also have like, you're basically using up the, the high level one-on-ones figuratively as using the two onboarding calls or so the two follow-up calls as they just get a free month of that.

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Now, some of them might be like, well, shit, I want to keep doing this in which case then you can convert them in the back down, sell, you just get the annual. Cool. So that's still not a, not a loss.

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okay so that's like immediate money number one that can triple so that could take you maybe from like if none of the tweaks if you didn't do any change in tweaks to the youtube and all the stuff we just went over if you just did that that could take you to like 30 or 40. okay that's just number one all right

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Number two, you're getting four out of 150 people who are joining the free thing to get on a call or less. Right. So we have to fix that. Yeah. So what we need is I'm assuming that he doesn't have like we need to sell the call because right now it just sounds like. How serious are you? Do you want to talk to Sam? That's what it sounds like.

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I could be wrong, but that's what it sounds like the script looks like. So and given these kind of response rates, that's what I assume it is. We need to give something like you gave them a lead magnet, which was the blueprint to get them here. We've got to give them something else to get on the call.

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That's fine. That's fine. Okay. 29 bucks. What do I get?

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So I think within the free community, what you can do is you can say, hey, when you hop on the call, we're going to unlock half of the stuff in the free community. So half of it's locked, half of it's unlocked. And the reason we do that is because we want to show you the best place to start and make this a better experience, whatever.

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Now, you can bring that up to people after they say they have a pulse and a credit card or whatever. They answer the first couple qualifying questions. Then we say, cool, if you want to find out how to unlock that, we can do that for you. And you can hop on a call. So that could take you from like four calls a week to like...

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So number one is the really easy one to do. That'll take you almost no time, which is you just we start hitting the twenty nine dollar people try to send them. Those are going to be the highest likelihood, warmest people because they were in your brief thing for a while, elected on their own to sign up. That's great.

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If we want to increase the likelihood that that happens though, I would put a little, the first module that you have in there, after you have your introduction, do a five video VSL, so video sales letter, So that basically part of their onboarding is to kind of go through and the five video VSL I've talked about in other stuff, but it's origin story.

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You had that mentor who taught you, like that's a perfect story of like, you basically, you walk through the journey as though you were them. And then you say, now that I've been on the other side, I can show you what I found, right?

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This is actually for free.

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You can also do the same thing for the $29 thing. Because both of these are just going to be sales conversion things. They're just forever salespeople sitting there that some percentage of people are going to go there. And then that's video one. Video two, three, and four are going to be just basically the biggest obstacles that people struggle with for why they don't buy.

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But you're going to frame it as an educational thing. And then the fifth video is going to be basically an invitation to the next thing.

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yeah and you'll mention again whatever free stuff they get for the next thing in that fifth that fifth thing and put the link below for them to schedule a call yep okay and where they schedule you can have them fill out like on the actual scheduler have them fill out their stuff and you can just choose to disqualify people if you want to all right yeah okay yeah and you can put that qualification in the video so it doesn't feel like you're just you know canceling people you're just like hey you have to meet these qualifications to get here whatever okay

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those are just like easy things that we can do to the existing communities to just push more people through so we're starting with the 29 uh the 29 ascensions great we're gonna add the vsl in cool we're gonna add that also into the free the free group um you're gonna add the lead magnet to the call which is that half of these things are gonna get unlocked um if they get on the call so you can get way more at bats uh to book calls so the the last thing i wanna i wanna hit on is you have these 9 000 people right

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So you could be a complete- And then you just upload them as modules that continue to add to it. Is that correct?

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Okay. If you want to have a big cash pop, you know what? I could get into that, but I kind of want you to just do this stuff. I think this is enough because we talked about a ton of stuff on YouTube that you, that you'll have to switch up. We have the free to paid, and then we have the paid to more paid. We have the stuff that you're going to be making inside of the community.

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We have the landing page split test that you're going to do. We have the new intros. Yeah. I think you've got, I think you've got work. So that should take you six months. But let's sum it up though, because right now I think you could very well go from four out of the 150 to like 20. Like that's a 5X right there.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

2515.357

You've got a triple sitting on the $29 to 5K that you're not talking to the other seven people every week who've already paid you. So you got a triple there. So putting those together, it's a 15X from where you're at. So that's your 100K per month. Like we can do that. You can do that right now. Okay.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

2532.85

And then in terms of increasing the top of funnel, the two big levers that we have are improving the intros and thumbnails for YouTube, adding the pin comments in, right? So that you have the CTA that's always sitting there. When you're doing the integrated CTAs, actually print it out and show it to them. them.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

2550.767

And then when they get to the landing page, they should also see your face and see some of the other images inside of it. And I would bet that that would increase the close rates. And so, sorry, the opt-in rates. The last piece that I'll give you is this. You need to put tracking in place so that you know click,

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

2568.994

all the way through so basically i'm going to say them quickly and you can watch this recording later yeah yeah absolutely you need to know how many clicks are coming from youtube number one so whatever clicks you're going to that link we need to see that you can put a utm parameter on it if you've got some tech guy he can do it for you all right so that's going to go to your landing page we need to know the opt-in rate or the conversion rate of the people who are taking in the pdf

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

2592.927

So we get that piece of data. Then we have percentage of people that are coming straight from the thank you page. Put a picture. So this thank you page, put a picture of your community, like your community landing page so that they know where they're going. Because what it'll do is it's going to increase the opt-in rate of your community because they'll see where they're going.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

26.027

Pleasure's mine. I'm coming in completely unknowledgeable and ignorant. So we're going to derive these solutions in real time together. I know Kirby is a admin on your community. So we actually get a little bit more stats that we can pull up on the screen, which I think will be fun. With that being said, give everybody the 60 seconds. What's the community about? So let's just start that.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

2612.597

So it'll be more congruent of a customer journey for them.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

2616.279

So we're not going to see it here. You're just going to see a higher percentage opt in on your community. So you're tracking with me. Now, the next piece of data we need is two because it's going to split, which is what percentage of people are clicking from emails.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

2631.628

and what percentage of people are clicking from here because that'll give you a good idea of like okay wow most people are coming from the thank you page not my emails okay so i should focus on my thank you page more or you know everybody's coming from email over the long term maybe i need to make my emails better whatever okay the next um metric that you're going to want is the conversion rate of the of the free page the free you know the free about page your community

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

2654.395

And then we want percentage of people who go basically through the funnel there, which is people who respond, people who book calls, people who show, and then people who close.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

2668.98

that's what we want now um because you also have people who just choose to opt in straight for the 29 because they can just buy it on the page i would just have a separate set of metrics that's just like what percentage of people who opt in for the uh 29 book a call show and buy yeah that makes sense yeah absolutely okay cool i feel like we can make a lot of money absolutely thank you so much for this uh alex i really appreciate it you bet man

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

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Real quick, guys, I have a special, special gift for you for being loyal listeners of the podcast. Layla and I spent probably an entire quarter putting together our scaling roadmap. It's breaking scaling into 10 stages and across all eight functions of the business.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

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And then the $5,000, how many one-on-ones do they get with you?

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

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So you've got marketing, you've got sales, you've got product, you've got customer success, you've got IT, you've got recruiting, you've got HR, you've got finance. And we show the problems that emerge at every level of scale and how to graduate to the next level. It's all free and you can get it personalized to you. So it's about 30-ish pages for each of the stages.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

2742.434

Once you answer the questions, it will tell you exactly where you're at and what you need to do to grow. It's about 14 hours of stuff, but it's narrowed down so that you only have to watch the part that's relevant to you, which will probably be about 90 minutes. And so if that's at all interesting, you can go to acquisition.com forward slash roadmap, R-O-A-D map, roadmap.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

323.975

So you do it on demand or as an escalation, right? They have an issue that you escalate them. That's fine.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

331.057

I'm going to say it back to you. So your YouTube is short videos. Your free group has long tutorials. Your $29 has more long tutorials plus one live class a week with lots of people on it. And then for the $5,000, they get two classes a week, which significantly fewer people on it. And I'm guessing you're teaching cooler stuff. I don't know.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

353.282

And then if they need help, you hop on with them one-on-one. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Got it. And how are you selling people from 29 to 5K?

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

432.867

Or YouTube goes to your community?

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

443.789

Got it. So you have a little opt-in page. Copy my blueprint for painting success. Cool. Then you have an image. Get instant access to the blueprint for free. Got it. Valued at $97. I plan to start charging for it soon. Okay. If you're curious from a compliance perspective, adding a value where it's not justified isn't compliant, just as a side note. You could say like, it's free for now.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

464.577

I'm planning on charging for soon. And it will probably do the same on a conversion basis, but it would probably be more compliant. Just as a side note. So then we put, is it name and then email? Okay, get instant access. All of this I like. If I were to run a split test on this, I would add in three benefit-driven bullets and test it. And I would put them below the button.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

48.974

What's the community about?

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

486.567

And I would see how that does. Because oftentimes, like, I've just, like, you've got, you've got, You're 80%, 90% on that. Like it's a pretty clean page. It's pretty straightforward. I would just test that one as just like an easy lift. Do you know what your conversion on that page is? While you look, confirm with me the rest of the journey.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

501.793

So YouTube goes to the lander, lander they opt in, then I'm guessing you thank you page, join the community and you email them to join the free community. Is that correct?

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

547.37

9K on the list. Great. Love that. All right. So YouTube, Lander, follow up and thank you page goes to a free group. Great. When they join the free group, they fill out some sort of mini app. That's what you're saying. And then your guys hop on the phone with them and see if they're qualified. Does that sound right so far?

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

567.782

Okay, so they go DM to phone, got it. And then basically they have an AB path, right? So path A, if you're qualified, you can talk to Sam. And if you're unqualified, are you trying to sell them into the annual for the $29 a month one?

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

583.993

Okay, good. Because if you start with the five, you can downsell the 500 or whatever, 29 times, whatever that at 460 or whatever it is. That I think would probably, that probably anchors really well. And just say like, you're just not going to get the one-on-one component, but you're going to get all these other things. And I think that's actually fairly compelling.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

601.841

Like if I wanted to make the 460 my primary offer, I would probably present it the same way you are. Because basically the $5,000 just becomes like, if you're a whale and you really want to ball out and you want to have the personalized attention, you can pay the $5,000. But it's basically like the 460 is the core offer.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

619.998

Do you know what percentages go into each bucket of the people that your team talks to?

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

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Worth knowing, but okay, that's fine. And you've got, was it like 300-ish in the $29? Yeah.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

665.37

I love it. You're good. Now that I have a good lay of the land, what's the goal? What do you want to do?

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

724.207

That sounds like a totally different business.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

728.412

So you have three communities and you teach people how to paint. So rather than teaching people how to teach people how to paint, I think sticking with teaching people how to paint for now is probably the right strategic move.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

741.406

That being said, what's the goal with this business? Numbers are helpful because you're already making an impact, so I can't change anything about that. Basically, you've got 20 people in your $5,000 thing, so that's $100,000 a year, and you've got 300-ish people at $29 a month. I know some of them are grandfathered from Patreon or whatever from the one-time payment.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

762.854

Let's say half of those are new. Would you say that's fair? Yeah.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

769.98

So you got 150 people paying $30 a month, right? So you're looking at $4,500, $5,000 a month that comes in and recurring from the membership base.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

780.805

okay got it so you're basically yeah yes you've got like 8k that comes in from the from the the top i i know it's because you're charging five thousand dollars at a time that it's lumpy i get that but 8k a month on the top and you're averaging like 4500 per month on the bottom all right yeah so you're looking at yeah i was going to say do you mean in terms of financial figures what my goals

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

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Yeah, or if you were like, I want to get to 1,000. I mean, any of those would be fine.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

854.292

Yeah. Between the two. Yeah. Let's just say, you know, 30 is kind of like milestone one to double, double from where you're at. And then there's a triple from there that gets you to a hundred. So I think in doubles and triples, oftentimes just in terms of like, what do we need to do in order to have that happen? All

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

869.512

yeah because the thing is is it's it's rare that one thing will turn i mean if you find it that's awesome but a lot of times like you'll get them from multiple doubles and triples that's where like you get the big numbers now that i have an idea of uh of what's happening one of the data points that's really important here that's missing is understand like what percentage of people who go to the free group or the paid group um and what close rates are on on the phone for a or b yeah exactly those metrics

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

928.524

I wouldn't, I wouldn't subscribe too much to that. I'll bet you there's a messaging thing just because like you want to talk about, you know, beliefs like that's probably not.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

938.132

Yeah, that goes for everybody who's listening to this. Explaining why this isn't at you, Sam. Explaining why your group doesn't make you money or doesn't want to buy your stuff. Like not going to serve you. Okay. So one out of, so 15 people joined the free group. He DMs all of them. Now is that when he gives you 15 turns into two calls, right?

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

983.357

Got it. How many people joined to get to that? I'm trying to get conversion metrics here.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Helping An Artist Scale His Business | Ep 835

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60 per week. And then how many? Well, we can reverse engineer this. So if you're getting 60 a week.

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bothers you as a person that you just can't fuck with I just feel like when you take certain oaths like a doctor when a doctor has a criminal on his table he still has to save that criminal like you took that oath to be a lawyer and you know that you're going to end up defending some people who have done some horrible things you're going to have to take that oath seriously pick a different branch of law

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This is the trial or within the lawsuits? I thought this was dealing with just the lawsuits, not the actual trial. Oh. If this is dealing with the lawsuit. Yeah. If this is the civil shit, then I don't think it, I mean, it could be one percent.

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Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

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Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

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You just said it was full. Nah, I'm showing you shit. It's connecting. It's connecting. Nah, the trauma though, I think it's a nerve. It's for like nerve defect.

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Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

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I wanted to ask if y'all getting y'all bodies ready for March 1st. Because the niggas think they just about to walk into the gym and start hooping. Yeah, so my leg fucked up.

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Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

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You the only nigga that get the free metro. Let me ask y'all a question. Let me ask y'all a question. Let me ask y'all a question. Let me ask y'all a question. Y'all get a kick out of making me seem broke? That's not broke. No, it's not broke. Y'all get a kick out of making me seem like the gigolo nigga?

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11374.6

Yo, he going somewhere far. Soon as she get out this car for work, boy. Yo, he out. That nigga driving to Texas. Yo, but not too much on E, man. Leave my man alone, yo.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11388.429

Oh, man. It was in my name. Yo. That shit, that shit. Yo, nigga. Nah, it wasn't in my name.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11393.713

It wasn't in my name.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11399.898

I'll pay a note or two. Your shit's in the Raptors.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11435.11

Yo, he bought some Cole Haans. This nigga's an idiot. I ain't gonna lie, there was a point in time where... You wasn't putting gas? I ain't gonna do that. Oh, come on.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11458.168

Just enough to get you in. That shit, you know what it no longer say to my eyes? That shit say low.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11479.096

I'm paying for all that.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11489.16

I think it's still making home. Start driving fast. Turn the AC off. Turn the AC off. Heat go off. Put this motherfucker window down. Put a neutral window down. Oh, man.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11501.581

Yo, I got a story.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11505.462

I got a story about somebody that, yo, I ain't going to lie, you a generous nigga. Because when we was all living in Totowa.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11514.025

When we was all living in Totowa, there was one car.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11516.845

Keep it a stat. And all of us was using that one car. That's fine. For real. And Joe had no problem with it. Yo, you got something to do? All right, cool. So out of respect, you just go ahead and. You know, fill it back up. Nigga had you driving.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11532.813

That shit be on D. He make sure you drive so that you got to pay the toll. That's why he don't want to. Yep. Stop.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11555.377

Niggas get ticketed on this shit. Don't pay the tickets. Let me go to the gas station and put the shit that saved the gas.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11564.26

Nah, you did good. You was all right. You were generous.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11591.457

Big family.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11595.44

Shout out to my baby Xander. Love you. Family's good. Mom's good. Dad's good. Good. Good. Glad to hear it. Glad to hear it.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11703.702

Yeah, you may have two stops along. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's possible.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11732.887

You should have multiple stop points.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11849.697

You got the scaffolding. You know how the guys do it.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11866.244

Busy the motherfucker, ain't it?

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11896.8

Stimmy checks. The scams is on the rise. Patreon.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11901.831

Yeah. Ain't nothing new about that.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11905.489

They bunch. They always make a noose.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11911.013

Elon. Big Elon.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11948.565

Two most important stocks that are not publicly available, Elon, Starlink, and Anduril. Anduril is the founder, Lucky Palmer. that's what Oculus was stole from. So remember when Zuckerberg had to go up there and kiss the ring and talk bad about Apple and Rogan because Trump made him do it? There's a lot of people who are starting to gun for Zuckerberg and Palmer is one of them.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

11973.028

So the metaverse, Oculus was stolen. He is the real Iron Man. So when these wars pop off in the next couple of years. They're going to be hollering at him. For sure. They already, Ukraine, if you go Google it. Yeah. Got it.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12014.106

Always. You my guy.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12028.878

I tried to build you up You threw those stones back at me Who are you anyway? Who are you anyway? Who are you anyway? Are you sure that we met? I don't recognize that face Who are you anyway? Who are you anyway? Who are you anyway? Who are them people that you travel with? Those are the types you used to dance What are those habits you picked up? Noses made for breathing

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12102.876

Schedule, I fucked up with them days you trained for sleep I tried to build you up, you threw them stones back at me You think that money and loans through with being happy, happy You're too pretentious, self-conscious, private driver, slave Who are you anyway? Who are you anyway? Who are you anyway?

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12216.628

Yo, Magneto, full effect. His Tiny Desk was fire, too.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12226.112

He one of them niggas.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12228.032

For sure. And I still think he's not getting talked about enough.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12232.194

Yeah, yeah.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12232.574

Like, he's had amazing album.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12235.959

Amazing vocalist, amazing talent. He's been around for mad long. And that Tiny Desk was just... Did he win a Grammy?

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12242.524

He won something. For writing. I don't think he won a Grammy. This album, I don't think, was eligible because it came out after that. No, Mutt was eligible.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12256.916

That's just a classic. For sure. Yeah.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12282.26

There's mad niggas in the comments like, yo, you would do like an easy two-man trade for Rory right now.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12291.647

You would dump up that flat. Never mind.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12300.438

Yeah, hold up for a minute. What you trying to say up here? Nah, niggas are saying like, yo, they would easily like this. But if you was the GM?

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12310.628

Oh, no, I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I think the team that he's doing is dope. What he's doing today is dope, and I think this team here is dope.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12324.884

Never mind, go ahead. Who would you trade? Who would I trade?

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12331.406

Come on. I would see if we can just do a, like, cash considerations and shit. For Rory?

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12349.733

Me and you, nigga. And go over there? Nah, I go over there. But that's the trade. You would have to go over there. Nah, salute. Nah, yeah, yeah, me and you.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12370.39

What you think? You think we get the chip over there too, though? Crazy. Me? Nick, I'm going, damn, Nick.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12442.36

You ain't gonna lie, the days of holding you down is over.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12477.954

Nigga, you see me going that section. It's over.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12485.599

You gotta go hoop.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12492.884

He did his thing, too. He did. What the fuck that got to do with what I'm talking about?

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12501.648

Even if you get paid?

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12522.26

Okay, you know what? In that circumstance, yeah, I'm cool. Yeah. 500 a year? I'm cool. We can still dap in public. It's prime, Rory. Is it prime, Rory?

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12530.966

Joe. Like, what year? Like, 2018? Like that run.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12544.804

That's my man. You can only do that because that's my man.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12573.004

Your store, your store, your store Way down by the things around me Thought I had it but it's getting heavy But I'm so strong, do it on my low knee Go even harder if I got my homies I need a break, help me escape Go with the rough times, every day Been through the mud sometimes, mask in the face Don't got enough time, gotta get straight I don't wanna keep that gun nigga might shoot shit.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12620.981

I ain't been paid but I am now can't live with me I'm a cash cow. I'm a master on land now got a big head. I'm a head now used to never have it now I got enough to cover it never check the balance my new balance on the mothership Proud to be a father but they mothers on some other shit had to swipe the card god damn how they discovered I'm so strong, do it on my own

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12664.279

I don't see him like I want to Everybody in the air probably gon' tell him I don't want to That's a lie, man, you come from mine How could I not want you? You always get the real me I can never stunt you Sunshine will take your pain away Protection gone on rainy days Now bitch forgot that stain away Survival guilt's a crazy thing Not lucky, bitch, I pray for this My bad, my bad, my bad, my bad.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12713.14

I need a break, help me escape Goin' through rough times, every day Been through the mud sometimes, mask in the face Don't got enough time, gotta get straight Mmm, yeah I did that Success just tastes so good so I'ma grab my plate and spin back Mmm

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12764.571

Yeah! Yeah!

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12771.132

Rhyme rhymes out the clear blue Thank all the years new All my beats ready made too Severe tunes bruise it Take y'all niggas to school To the lich Eating from the fruits of our labor My stomach huge again Torn down the ivy coast Lionel got that 90 flow Reminiscing my pops flushing work Down the tidy bowl Fiends getting hidey hoes Some mothers on a crack binge Used to idolize hustlers Now these niggas has-beens Asses to asses

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12799.085

Fast life, grand pricks, cops can't vest the flock Got these niggas trapped in, may run into a ape Thought it was wonderful to date Find your skull or two remains, we in the jungle, what you think?

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12810.151

Some say we jinx devils, advocate, play like clarinets Niggas stole they souls, they got gambling debts Glass and a set, flowers for my ancestors Y'all niggas never seen a crowded man town I took a ride up on the underground

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12835.117

Fuck havin' high hopes, nigga I'm on grind mode Flyin' in different time zones, blue like a trombone Stars align in the cosmos, they sayin' this is God's will I tell them I know, pockets used to be flaco Now it shows the stock home, get a Milano My stock grows while it basically potholes in my lawn Got a shot like John Starks when I'm warm, Attica comes

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12860.291

Throwing shots from afar I thought I told you niggas all stoners Wake out of comas like Lamar Odom Joyriding with the car stolen Y'all still voting, marking the beast When they bar coders, those is dark forces Hand solo when I'm skywalking Underground, I'm bossing, trying to clock a fortune My niggas in the street got P's to put on a forklift My queen gorgeous, gleam on me, it seem flawless I started off b-boying, now I'm spitting poison

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

12914.195

Out the door, look, there she goes again This time, don't know what Wish I knew that what I do now. Yes, it's true. The shit they say about. You and me. Pushing, pulling strings. I can't be tied down so easily. Wish I knew that what I do now. That's the point. Yes, it's true. The shit they say, bro. You and me. That's Truist Ambiguous. That's Dre, son. I didn't realize that.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13041.748

I was looking at the credits and it said Mixed by Dr. Dre. I was like, oh shit, you got a new artist? I was like, oh no, that's his kid. That's fire.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13068.015

What's my drink? Oh, going back to the Full Moon album. That's my shit. Brandy, When You Touch Me.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13411.598

That is Brandy, When You Touch Me, off that Full Moon album. Classic.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13420.611

Of course. You know me playing that.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13432.505

A lot of people don't know. Yeah.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13476.145

That nigga turned to Super Saiyan 4, nigga. Nigga won't go sign a contract and still won't get traded. Bro, don't even entertain him. So we...

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13493.435

Oh, I thought he was my glory.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13519.852

No, no, no, no. You got to give up. You got to give up.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13581.032

No, you good. So you sending Mel?

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13590.513

For prime. For prime Rory.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13608.108

That's a nice lineup. That's it. That's a nice lineup.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13618.454

Yo, when niggas leave. Would you hire Julian?

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13627.598

You don't think you would have to see us in the finals? Me, Flip, Mel, Julian.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13642.544

You shut up. And then you think we ain't going to pick up? You're picking up J1 and I'm Julian off waivers.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13678.075

I ain't going to.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13678.935

I'm going to let you know this one. I got to sleep on that. That's like a Luca trade.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13682.295

Nigga, I will call AG to, if you see this nigga walking, girls love karaoke, nigga, call me.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13696.718

It is, though.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13711.704

The legend? Mona's nice. For real. Mona's a good trade. Good addition.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13736.039

Parks. Parks. Parks.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13738.981

Parks. Nigga, Parks ain't going nowhere, nigga. Nowhere at all. Erickson. I'm quiet, man.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13747.205

What we get for cool?

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13755.864

That's Rich Paul.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13758.606

Yeah, Rich Paul.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13772.233

Nah, don't worry. Bridget's on waivers.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13777.283

Listen, nigga, I play rap if you want.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13786.882

I'll put all y'all niggas in a gift bag. Who would you trade for me? I'll put a bow on you niggas. Who would you trade for me? Who would you trade?

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13811.895

All right, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking, See, look at it. See? I put together a fucking LeBron.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13926.13

That's good.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13942.202

Cheers to your health. Health is wealth.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13946.024

Yo, don't let that influence you to start doing bullshit now. Go back to eating on bullshit.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

13996.628

You can do pre-nuvo. I think they're $1,500.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

14063.873

What? Ain't Umar still down with me? I'm paying for Umar.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

14070.798

You and who, you said?

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

14072.999

We get Charles and White, we can get out of jail. Oh, all right, bye.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

14077.002

That's a good thing to talk about, nigga.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

14100.361

This nigga a lot. Nigga, fuck you.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

14113.986

You give him a separate package. Hey, everybody. Hey, how you doing today? You wouldn't trade. You just let them go. And then let them make their own decisions.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

14123.689

I love you, man.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

14174.613

And moments pass.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

14217.605

Leave shit everywhere.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

14218.826

Kitchen counter be all fucked up. Bathroom counter.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

14251.194

Girls just.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

14275.456

My wife always wipes some shit down. It's not a hypochondriac.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

14357.571

No, you just hit from the back, so you ain't got to see it.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

14368.237

Did you get that record? Okay, Pop. That was nasty.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

14411.428

But it's not the room, only 10 in the room.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

14415.971

Nice. Nice. Nice. I told you all that.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

14447.394

Oh, wow. That's fire.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

14458.464

He was sliding on that.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

14467.667

Sign that nigga.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

14507.295

All right, man, let's hit Patreon. That shit was fire, man. That's what I'm saying.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

14512.997

He got some shit over there.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

14527.043

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

14534.728

I, I, I, I, I, I, I, not for daddy.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

14537.591

JVP, JVP, where would you be without the JVP?

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

1905.194

That's rude.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

1942.1

Video games.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

2546.507

My niggas be smoking on something else.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

3035.469

Play that second verse.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

3504.987

There we go.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

3516.774

Never sold a bag but look like I blowin' the floor This don't make me feel no better, Tony, you're my Lorda You already know that I walk in the corner with the money on my finger She might get it poppin' like my wife before, okay? I don't have no credit, but I need a rose Turn up any time now when I turn it up You know how I get to that when I turn it on.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

3548.067

Can't handle my behavior when I turn it on.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

3575.437

Yeah, I think he's still on his Black Post Malone shit.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

3639.31

This is what I'm saying.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

3664.793

After the hook, I'm back to y'all. Whoa!

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

4072.448

I don't want no problem.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

4104.829

Of course not. Love.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

4344.993

I don't believe that. Pew, pew.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

4346.974

As Mel would say, pew, pew.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

4522.61

Let's go. I need your edible guy. Let's do it. Let me finish.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

4592.24

When he was looking at that light bulb, when he stared at that light bulb, he picked up some shit.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

4722.404

All the shit's in here.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

5072.979

That's why we can't get ahead right now.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

6284.454

Use my example. Let's just say Imani does something dumb on the show, right? And it's considered dumb to the corporate side of things, but it also garners more views, which in turn brings in more money. Would I still be required to ask for some level of raise? Because even though I did something dumb, it brought in more profit. Answer that.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

7313.003

Why is that funny? I'm asking you. Why is that funny? It's different for a black man to have a Filipino barber. I ain't gonna lie.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

7379.18

Hoes need help, too, as a charity? That's your man. Oh, gotcha. Yeah.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

7391.032

You got it.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

7394.875

Good. How you feeling, man?

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

7399.459

Congrats on the 10th year.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

7405.165

We got to hit the streets. We hitting the streets this week?

The Joe Budden Podcast

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7407.547

How long you here? I'm down till tomorrow afternoon. Damn, that's it? Yeah. But I'll be back next week, though. Wednesday. Damn, man. I already started coming out once a week.

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What you mean?

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They in Ghana right now. Shout out to the guys.

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That's a vibe, yo. You have a great time.

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Ran out of batteries?

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A nigga using a fleshlight to get his ego going.

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Don't give me no small sex toy. What the fuck is wrong with you? You plug your shit into a wall like a baddie?

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What? Get the fuck away from me, yo.

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So E, what up, man?

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I'm chilling, yo. Good to see you, man. Good to be here. Good to be here. Niggas is killing me online.

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Everybody got a JBP hat. Shit look nice. Yeah, told you. Oh, that's tough. Got one over there.

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Bitch, you want to go bald? You going to try to hold on to the hair forever?

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The kid is stupid. The son is stupid. Why you say that?

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What made him think he was the person to even deliver that message in that way?

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But that's his passion. That's him. Cool. All right, cool.

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That was the first step of being dumb.

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Shorty was supposed to stay with him.

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And that's why niggas don't go to the doctor.

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Yeah, but... It's a blessing to catch you early.

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That's a quick callback. Yeah, nah. He could have hit you tomorrow.

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You know how many people I know? who were told late, like, literally like, yo, if you would've came a little sooner, we might've been able to work through this. Don't tell me that.

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For shining your light.

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We all getting together.

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In this economy, $30,000 is a lot, though, especially for those who were not in business class. A lot of people are going to take that.

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A good lawyer could reach out to everybody on that flight and get them all together. A good lawyer could get all of them together on that flight and be like, we're going to go for a bigger bag.

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That's why they're trying to get a bunch of them. Like Kim K, right?

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Yeah. Real like Kim.

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No, we're not getting Kim K. Salino and Barnes would do better than Kim K. Yo, one of them niggas died, bro.

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Salino's dead. Oh, Salino's dead. One of them niggas is gone. Barnes is still here. Barnes and Barnes. Now I'm going to change the day.

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He keeps me happy. So very happy. He loves me. I don't know how to be.

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That doc about the Selenomite. I got to see the doc.

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Nah, that's crazy.

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So he killed her?

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I'm going to have to call my sister when we go on break because she broke down why all these planes are having these incidents. And she said it's specifically Delta, United, and another one. She said Spirit, all them other shits, is cool. And it's because they didn't switch over. They switched over to a different.

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No, it's not Monique. It's Melissa.

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Frontier safe, Spirit safe. Yeah, JetBlue safe too, nigga.

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JetBlue too? Yeah, JetBlue. They're not switching over their operating system. It's something where they're not. It's malfunctioning. It's malfunctioning the operating system. So all the flights that have done that, all the other airlines that have, are fine.

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It's just them niggas. I'm not going nowhere. Me neither.

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Volleyball.

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My brother got a studio in Orlando. I got to get a pass from probation, but I'll see if I can come.

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We'll hold it down.

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Orlando is nice. Orlando is there.

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Oh, shit, that's dope. Go in there and check on my little bros too.

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Oh, I'm going to go check. That's dope.

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Let's know now. Is she going?

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You going to the party next week?

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It's your goal.

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Oh, he said you ain't got your G card no more.

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Oh, once you go in, he got to stay in.

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My brother, look at me.

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To that you say? I'm not listening to these niggas, bro.

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There's nothing wrong with having to ask for permission slip once in a while. You said that before. You asked me.

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I'm not a daddy. Do you feel like a week in New York?

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I'm not listening to these niggas. Nothing wrong with that.

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Happy wife.

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Clap for that.

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You gonna play hard?

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On the roads that they already paid for is insanity. Yeah. Comes out of your taxes. You get double tax for everything anyway.

The Joe Budden Podcast

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Juanito's not here no more. They're not there, nigga. He gone.

The Joe Budden Podcast

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Yeah, she was a weed head before? You smoked weed and all that before?

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Look at his lips. He ain't no brown, no purple, no nothing.

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Wait a minute, wait a minute.

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Rush hour, too.

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I'm not mad at him starting there.

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Yeah, for sure.

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Very good point. They're not paying running backs, B. That's a good point. If there's any time on my axe, my axe right now.

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And he has good relationship with OKC and NBA.

The Joe Budden Podcast

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He'll be fine. It would be different if he was in a shitty relationship with them. He'll be good.

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Yeah, I mean, this is my average days.

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Anthony Edwards. I loved it. That, to me, is him. And I like the fact that he knows that.

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Good point.

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Joe, he want to still be on his fuck shit.

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And he's going to lose out on it.

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But he was brought in with that, and he was brought in to be that. You know that.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 802 | "Positivity Highlighter"

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If he was the face, they could have hid that information, though. That's a lot of shit. Yeah. What?

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Not in today's social media.

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We want to have an honest conversation or no?

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That's a lot of shit to get hit by the faces.

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A bunch of shit that we got here. For sure. True.

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Yeah, but he is in the commercials.

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That's not true. That's the circle. That's not true.

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That's the circle. Yeah, he had too much. You can still want something and also know how not to obtain it and sabotage it.

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Yes. Everything else off the court.

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But you don't know what his... Yeah. His personal goal was, and for the trajectory where they had him, that fucked his life.

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And if I'm Adam Silver and the GDP of the NBA is fucked up, you have no choice until we find. I'm leaning on you. For sure. You have no choice. I'm on your side.

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Yeah. Right. Yeah, if you don't want to be the face of the league, don't take advantage of all the things that we provide you to be that.

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Oh, for real?

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Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.

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How's everybody doing tonight? Yeah. Did it say how she passed? No. I did not see that.

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78 years old. The cause of death is natural. Natural causes. She was in hospice. Got it. See you later, here come the drama Oh, that's that nigga with the fake Wow, why you punch me in my face? Stay in your place Place on my shirt and alligators You wanna see the inside?

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I see you later, here come the drama Oh, that's that nigga with the fake Wow, that's on my shirt and alligators You wanna see the inside? I see you later, here come the drama Oh, that's that nigga with the fake Wow, why you punch me in my face?

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Somebody made this for you.

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The kids, though. He goes...

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I know. Johnny Cochran is who Puff called for the city college shit.

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It's her. It's her.

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She's here.

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No, not...

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We've been calling it for so many years.

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with hip hop.

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Yeah, if I get to thinking, I probably really only need nine hip-hop songs for, like... Albums?

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No, songs.

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I want to ask you a question.

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He doesn't dribble at all. He doesn't have any free throws on the season. He doesn't have any assists, if you like, but he getting threes up. That can't happen. That's the stuff we can't have. It's frustrating. I think we'll figure it out. Y'all let him shoot three.

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Salute Dwayne. What month is it? We in December.

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Remix, baby. I crush your ass up like Jesus, baby. You know I reheat this, baby. Then eat this, baby. And I lace this bitch like Victoria's Secret, baby. This for the tweakers, baby. You see this, baby. I can't believe I said that.

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You got a lot, baby.

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Another one.

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It's not a problem if you want it, babe. Take the G5 anyway.

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I don't know who Drake Bell is.

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That's how Drake Bell sings this.

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This bitch still eating cream or wheat?

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Mike what? What's his last name? Mike what?

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Shout out to Ty James. All right, nigga.

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You know me, nigga.

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Today, my bad.

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What's wrong, Trish?

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Y'all never had a girl lie to y'all and say she was pregnant?

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How was I supposed to know? This is how it's gonna go Thought that if I put you first or not We were last for sure Last for sure Remember our first kiss was in a rental car Now I kinda wish it was a hit and run Crazy, I bet I didn't know, I didn't know I'd be wasting my time Spending my twenties on you I put my heart in Don't get me started Spend my time wondering why I spend my twenties on you

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I was learning myself I was just learning you I can tell the ship was going down I didn't know, I didn't know I'd be wasting my time Spending my 20s on you I put my heart in Don't get me started Spend my time wondering why I spend my 20s on you Don't get me started. Spend my time wondering why I spend my 20s on you.

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They ask me where the roof, I ain't seen it, hopper Yesterday when I woke up, I ain't lost Say she wanna drink my kids, foster Everything I do is real, be colossal Everything I do is real, colossal

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Everything I do is real colossal Louis bag, Prada bag, body bag Kinda sad, smoke some gas, pour a drink Try to laugh, that's my dawg, ain't no lad Nonetheless, I surpassed, you ain't first Then you last, fuck the hearse, fuck the brass Talking beans on the ship pocket beans on the ship invite chicks on the cruise. I put friends on the ship Ain't no train on the shit. Hell.

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No, I'm heaven sent see the trencher element dirty scale element 40 shell element clientele element, even though I got a felony I run for president almost post my bill

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I'm gon' show my residence I'm gon' show my fire but I ain't want no evidence Ask me where the roof ain't seen, hopper Yesterday when I woke up I ate lobster Say she wanna drink my kids, foster Everything I do is real, be colossal Everything I do is real, colossal

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Everything I do is real colossal Nothin' level, take a photo, Kel-Techie movin' solo Modern architecture in my condo bike, GP Moto Floater still in windows, K-Rave 40 wood extender Sip a green juice, Mac a bitch, biscuit with the muzzle Teamin' up, hatin' on me, I don't get it, niggas suck Eyes closed, countin' bucks, white kicks in the trunk Politics and rockin' bucks, countin' chicken, nigga, up Bitches' M's in the tuck

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I just call it how I see it, therapeutic when I count it Talkin' shh, movin' mountain, bakin' soda glass bottle Fundamental situation, first I'm gettin' elevated I'm like Arnold Schwarzenegger, everything is correlated And the shoes match the fit, and I chromed out the blitz

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Niggas hoes bout the bitch, okay cool, you can dip Niggas talkin' out the neck, never talkin' bout a check Do it big, nothin' less, coppin' rollers with the X They ask me where the roof, ain't seen, hoppa Yesterday when I woke up, I ate lobster Say she wanna drink my kids, foster Everything I do is real, be colossal Everything I do is real, colossal Everything I do is real, colossal

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This is dead. Dead, I tell you. Rest in peace, Irv Gotti, Queens, what up? Put three of those illest niggas together. Street music and so forth on one track, huh?

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They hate me across the lap She used to whip me with a strap When I was bad Picture me, snotty nose, sittin' on my arm slap The kid like five or six, shit, I will curse back I got it from the older folks sittin' in the living room Everybody had cups, stylistics on boom And then came down, mag lightin' all the reefer up Baby caught a contact, I'm tryin' to tie my sneaker up I'm missin' all the loops, strings goin' in the wrong hole It feels like I'm wobblin'

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In the room, I get angry. Stop my feet, catch a tantrum. Spit, scream, fuck that. Mama shake me real hard. Then get the big gat. That's called the belt. Help me as I yelled. I'm in the room like, with man whelps. Ragged out, bad belt. Yes, her presence was felt. Then get my black ass in the bed. It's time to crash out, pass out.

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She was picking me with a strap when I was bad. They take me across a lap. She used to whip me with a strap when I was bad.

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Despite the alcohol, I had a great old mama. She famous for her slaps, and to this day, she's on it. But when I was a little dude, her son was a little rude. I plucked the peas off my plate and poured juice on the nigger fool. Get beat, then I run, tell Grinch, but my mama hit me for no reason. She whipped me hard when I finished eating and felt the bell stinging when I wet that bed.

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Hit my drawers and start crying when she felt that bed. Caught another when I told her those the fake pro-cads. I'm in the corner weaving a schema, trying to block my head.

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Nowadays, kids don't get beat.

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They get big treats and fresh pair of sneaks. Punishments like have a seat. Back then when friends and neighbors would bust that ass and bring it to your mama, yo. She got the switch and the stash. That's back-to-back beatings. Only went outside for free lunch with whelps on my legs. Still leaking, yo. It's Whippy with a Strap, Ghostface, produced by J Dilla.

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For sure, you got to give them a fire song. All right, Ruff, it's on. Let it appear. Set us on sight, tryna see Free your mind, for a minute Only temporary Then we blow the gas and left out Now I'm covered in your lip gloss At least you know that she who big dog I got you

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I can't be serious. It's murder. It's murder. It's murder.

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It's murder. You beat one shot at me J took a AY took a R Drive by to your hood screaming bye bye to y'all Why would you all fuck with me Knowing I put you six feet deep And them niggas could die with you Pop the hot pistol And pop the hot pistol And I promise you won't I'm not a zombie.

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Now she ain't gotta brag bout her gag, she don't lollygag pussy lollipops So that's me, my tootin' crack, ayy, my finish gettin' some business But I got that insurance, guarantees, and retention years But then she so religious, she want me to own it, I just wanna rent it Old school Indian

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Ain't my phone up like 5% shit So I don't got long to vip in I'ma put your face right down with the vintage This smell like Dolce inside the cabana Brazil, we in Copacabana Packs sealed like them niggas on water Gas still leakin' out like the car they got ballin' Caught up on the freakin' horn and busy Gotta work when I'm done, come and get me This ain't regular ballin' You was lookin' at the Meg and the Jordan Runnin' all day

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Turn up all the grease I'm just tryna please ya I'm just tryna please ya Don't act like you got amnesia You know what it is when it come through Riding, riding six again Switch to Holland and I got a Benz And it's a cool, no, I can't scoop your friends And yeah, I ain't got you when we in the bedroom And we smoke the gas and ride the shoes

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I was in a failed shit, bitch, yeah, yeah I can see the session in your eyes and I can tell you Ain't no love when you topin' me, love when you topin' me

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How do I know if you see room? I know you're planning to tell a lie I want my power, you see it all How can I sacrifice? They never planning on staying long I know they hear what I'm saying though You better put it on speakerphone Fishing on the roadway Nothing they can do, I'm gonna throw it One day I'ma dip, I'ma go away I don't want this, won't send out my bullshit I want another kiss

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What I need, babe, come home in space Feel like all I see is gray, clap on my gaze Made you push me away, throw me a drain That's why I keep That is Jane Doe, Speakerphone.

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Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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All Mel's songs. Mel's songs. Mel be trying to.

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Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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Mark. Who Mark?

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Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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I heard your mom in one of the spaces say, yeah, in the room. I love the aesthetic of the real moms. Your mom's supportive. Mom's going to hold you down.

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Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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Tell me, what's the matter with your bitch?

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Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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You know what I mean? B-Sides, mixtape days, man. You know what I mean? Shazam it. I respect it. Niggas ain't shittin', you right, but every bitch need a little dick in her life.

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Wait a minute!

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Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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Love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love.

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Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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You've never heard of Joe Bud? JVP, JVP, where would you be without the JVP? We got him. We fucking got him!

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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Roll out. Let's make it happen. We ain't going to get it with this. We'll take the capital. What's enough?

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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You still here with me? What the hell, man?

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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We use Tristava, Bianca, Stravax, Brooklyn. Yeah! Lick it! Slow down slow down slow down

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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What'd you say?

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This is cool.

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Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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What the hell can you do as baby? Models, I'm hittin' ladies, so what can you do? Step me down and screw face it. Hike your man up the lacy. Come on, all y'all, butter sauce, sweeter than tasty. My hands grip, two hammers, double action. Prime time, make minus the action. Now get your motherfuckin' hands up high. Touch the sky, and if you hold it, what do you think of it?

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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Burn it in the club and ride it. If you ain't spittin' tonight, give her the pin number. Mommy, hit me up. We just gotta tell her.

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Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

1646.385

Yeah, Rockefeller, we invite you to something epic, you know? Hold, what up, what up, what up, what up? Hold, Brooklyn, what up, what up? Stand down to y'all, too.

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Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

1667.808

All the entrepreneurs, 95ers, all the rapper niggas out there. So we offer you, well, we offer our lives. What do you bring to the table? It goes. While I'm watching every nigga watching me closely, my shit is butter for the bread they want to toast me. I keep my head open where it's supposed to be. Hold the picture sidetracked and clap them close feet. Don't sleep, I'm tired.

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Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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I promise y'all, we startin' soon, we startin' soon. But Erv was my man. Any help shape this hip-hop shit that y'all love or claim to. You gotta do it right. Shout out to the whole old Def Jam, man. Shout out to Angie, I love you. The whole old Monopoly crew. What up, what up, what up? Big Willie, my game is grown. Prefer you call me William.

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Forgetting all I ever knew, convenient amnesia I suggest you call my lawyer, I know the procedure Lock my body, can't trap my mind Easily explain why we adapt to crime I'd rather die enormous than live dumb And that's how we on it

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Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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Let it rock, let it rock I better trip them out, we on it Presidential Suites, my residential for the weekend Confidentially speaking, it cold since I sent you beakin' The in excess rental, don't be fooled, my game is mental We both outta town dawg, what you tryna get into?

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Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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Viva, Las Vegas, see ya Later at the craft tables, meet me by the one that starts the G-up This way no fraud willies, present gambling they re-up And we can have a pleasant time sippin' margaritas, G-G-G Can I live? Can I live? Come on man

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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Gotta catch em when they singin', they say girls love karaoke, man. See who you can play the mind games on.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

1824.059

Who might need a shoulder to lean on from a rich nigga?

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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All right, I'm defiant, you compliance.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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That's why I be the first. Mic check, mic check, mic check, come on, let's go. Alright. Hey, hey.

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And I appreciate them rocks that you got me, baby.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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Getting your bag, Killer Mike. Nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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Thank you.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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Thank you.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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Defiance.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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Don't romance.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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No, nigga, you pulling up. Get over right now, nigga. All right. Go ahead.

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Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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I fucking love two chairs. Wait a minute now. That's a bad motherfucker if she could do that for me. He's got to be from the past.

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Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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That's what he in there doing over Alchemist.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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I don't see this nigga. Y'all ain't into no bromance.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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Ish. Who the fuck do he be talking to? The white van from 20 years ago. Yeah, get him ice, please.

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Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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That was crazy.

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Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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I just learned what kind of car he got.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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What are y'all talking about?

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Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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What the fuck is that?

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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Oh, shit. Yo. Oh. All right.

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I clip off them little hairs that's folding. This nigga's a nutcase.

The Joe Budden Podcast

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Women are grateful, by the way.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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You got the baby hair.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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Let me get the rims to match.

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You know what I mean?

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Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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Yo, don't come fucking sit next to me. Let me get a hookah. You fucking creep. He's smoking hookah.

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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Yo, man. Don't order no hookah without pubes.

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I think it wasn't getting out of this pub.

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Episode 798 | "The Rims to Match"

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Anyway.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Efficiency. He runs it.

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No. Please, man.

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No. Yo, how you shoot movies and tell people not to watch them?

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He said, well, niggas get shot all the time.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Oh yeah, I'm on this.

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What do you mean?

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This is from the NFL.

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No, it's not.

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Fuck. How about yourself?

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You see that line?

The Joe Rogan Experience

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Thanks for being here. I really enjoyed talking to you, too. It was a lot of fun.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

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Thank you. All right. Bye, everybody.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

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You know, you want to say what you think about it.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

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Yeah, I just think we could all do with a little less yelling at each other. You're totally right. I just don't think it's good for anybody. Every time I've engaged in it, I feel bad for the rest of the day. Really? Even if I win. Yeah, I don't feel good. I just feel like, ugh, I don't like that. I don't like it.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1042.545

Um, I think you should be nice until it's time to not be nice. And generally that's like extreme violence. That's my, that's my feeling. That's my feeling, you know, like be nice up until you're literally trying to incapacitate a person.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1059.595

I don't think we have to do that. And I think the only time you have to do that is when someone's completely psychotic. Yeah. 99.999% of the time you're better off serving. you and that person better by just being nice.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1077.865

Yeah, not being married to your ideas either. Also, you know, not like taking an opposition to your ideas as an opposition to you as a being. You know, these are just ideas. Like if someone thinks that you're incorrect, if someone thinks I'm incorrect, I'm like, well, tell me why. What do you think? Why do you think that? Where did you come to this conclusion? What was the tipping point for you?

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

110.243

Right. Right. I didn't mean psychoanalysis is bad. What I meant is that a lot of times educated people defer to other educated people like they're an expert in their field. So they assume that all the other experts in their field are also correct. And any heretic is just a fool.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

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Like what is it?

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1185.463

Sure. Did you experience any professional repercussions when you're pushing back against this healthy at any size stuff? How much time do you have on that one?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1194.707

Well, let's go into it because that to me was so fascinating that the concept of fat shaming, which like I don't think you should hurt anybody's feelings, but I think at a certain point in time, sometimes hurting someone's feelings causes actions.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1208.917

and hurting someone's feelings with the truth and you can give the truth to someone lovingly you know you could say look i care about you this is why i want to tell you you're a fat fuck like you really are you're disgusting and you need to lose weight and you've you're fully addicted to food and you don't understand what it's doing to your body and you're being lied to by all these other people like these fat doctors like there's some lady in the uk who calls herself the fat doctor i'm like

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1234.751

Lady, you're just overwhelmed with inflammation. I could just see it looking at you. This is crazy that you're giving this advice out. You can't walk up a hill. There's no way. You're so unhealthy. And this idea that shaming people is worse than telling them the truth that's going to make them feel bad, maybe temporarily, but you could do it with kindness.

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And then that person can make choices that will be – and then you encourage them like I'm so glad you changed your diet. I'm so glad you cut out this and cut out that and now you're doing well and you've decided to walk 10,000 steps a day and you've decided to start exercising a little bit. This episode is brought to you by DoorDash.

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Yeah.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

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Explain big food narrative, what you mean by that.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1462.939

Yeah.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1545.389

Well, the whole term fat shaming is pretty recent, right? Yes, very.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

155.248

Isn't that crazy that was five years ago?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1553.07

Intuitive eating is a fascinating phrase. And the idea that this is by the same people that used to be in charge of tobacco. Yep. This is what's really crazy. These are – R.J. Reynolds and these tobacco companies bought all these fast food, processed food companies and they use the same tactics that they use with that to push terrible foods on people. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

159.29

Five years ago. And I remember when that episode came out, people were freaking out. Like, what are you doing? What is Brett doing? This is bullshit. You're going to get us all killed.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1590.926

Look what we're doing to people. Bet you can't eat just one.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1644.201

Yeah, it's ingredients and food. It's really simple.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

169.314

Well, he was right, clearly. And yet still, no apologies, no corrections, except the government website. The COVID-19 website is now up. And this has to be because of Bobby Kennedy.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1724.325

Yeah, it's a big one. Or transphobes or fill in the blank. But it's fascinating to me that hospitals fall into this. A friend of mine was visiting his friend who has prostate cancer. And this guy is in the hospital being treated for cancer. And then he went to look at what they're feeding him in the hospital.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1742.497

And they were feeding him applesauce, which is loaded with high fructose corn syrup, apple juice or orange juice, which is not even juice. It's concentrate. It's all bullshit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1751.903

And then some kind of a fucking sandwich, which is made out of this processed wheat bread.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1763.207

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1766.529

But it's so crazy that hospitals, their diets in hospitals are co-opted.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1804.104

But isn't that a rebellion against mom though? Which kids definitely do. Like my youngest daughter, she jokes around about, she's like, ooh, seed oils. I love seed oils. She'll have salad dressing with seed oil and she like mocks me. I'm like, okay, you eat whatever you want, but just know what it is.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

186.59

Well, the best part about it was they were like, we were misled. Yeah, you were misled by you, you fuckers. I know. You did it. You did it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1937.081

What does that lady have to say?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1941.002

Yeah, she's claimed that she's got a form of leukemia, I believe. But people, yeah, they debate. They doubt her. Yeah, for sure. They doubt her. Well, she's a little bit kooky, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1958.093

I like how you're using that name, Bad Baby.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1965.703

She says she insisted she'd been cleared for surgery. She has no regrets about her cosmetic tweaks. What does a cosmetic tweak have to do with leukemia? I don't know. They're not going to perform plastic surgery on a cancer patient. What? She's getting plastic surgery? What is this article about?

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1980.457

Look at the chronic myeloid leukemia piece because that's the part I know about.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1985.681

She, oh, breaks silence on claims she lied about having cancer after being slammed for vaping.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1991.106

Did she lie about it? I was just showing you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1993.168

I don't know if this is true. Because I thought she had like a wig.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

1996.552

My daughter said she lost her hair. 21 says currently battling chronic, how do you say that? Myeloid? Myeloid? Leukemia? Yeah. Criticized for getting cosmetic surgery while battling disease, which is pretty crazy. Is that really true? That's the part that... She underwent plastic surgery and challenged rival Alabama Barker to a physical fight all while battling leukemia.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

2023.533

What, they were going to meet somewhere in an actual fight?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

2027.876

Oh, boy. The Calabasas throwdown.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

2030.598

The classic.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

2031.839

It used to be an Old West shootout. Now it's a Calabasas throwdown between influencers.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

205.983

You're a little late. This came from a lab.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

2056.451

Yes, those statistics are real, and including the big leap since the COVID vaccine was rolled out.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

2065.511

There was a doctor that was on the Tucker Carlson show the other day that was saying he's seeing pancreatic cancer in kids for the first time ever in his career. He said, my entire career I never saw pancreatic cancer in children.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

207.464

You're a half a decade late.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

208.765

That's right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

2087.466

Oh, I'm not doubting that diet and environmental factors. I think there's a host of different things going on. For sure, there's pesticides and herbicides. That's a major factor. You know, when you look at the fact that 90 plus percent of people have Roundup in their blood. That's crazy.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

209.485

You know, it's really interesting. We've been talking about this a lot lately, that imagine if the roles were reversed and if podcasters were the ones yelling at everybody to go out and take these experimental shots. And then they were experiencing all these complications and all these side effects. Mainstream news would be chastising us.

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Not only that, we have like corns genetically engineered to be immune to glyphosate so they can just spray the shit out of it. And then you eat that corn and you're getting glyphosate residue. You're just getting it. And it's in your blood.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

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It's in wheat.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

2208.923

So it gets in the fish. You know, most freshwater fish have toxic levels of lead or heavy metals in them. Like most freshwater fish you really probably shouldn't be eating.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

2223.866

Yes, that's in the ocean. But that's heavy metals from the ocean, which is also from us. But that's mercury. But there's toxic levels of heavy metals and pollutants and, you know, forever chemicals that are in freshwater fish. Because all that shit that's in the ground gets into lakes. All that shit, all the runoff, all that stuff gets into streams, gets into creeks, gets into rivers.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

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We watched a video when we had Will Harris from White Oak Pastures on the podcast. And he showed the difference between his regenerative farm that doesn't use any pesticides or herbicides and his neighbor's farm. And there's literally a dividing line in the river. where you can see the runoff from his neighbor's farm turns the entire river brown. And it's legal. It's legal to pollute.

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Like, how dare you give people the advice to go out and do that? You're responsible for these people having all these side effects and all these unnecessary deaths and all these people that would have had no problem with COVID. You encourage them to take this vaccine and they had strokes and they had this and they had that. they'd be calling for us to get shut down.

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2276.261

Because it's industrial farming.

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But it's crazy. It's just like all that industrial fertilizer, herbicides, and pesticides are running off because the topsoil's dead. So all that stuff is running off as soon as it rains and it runs right into the river and you can see a dividing line. There's like clear water on one side and this disgusting brown dirty water on the right side.

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2307.049

No oxygen. Yeah.

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2310.23

Well, I have a friend of mine who is a yoga instructor and he's from Argentina. And he came to America and no one told him. He was in L.A. No one told him don't surf after it rains. So he was surfing and he didn't understand that all the runoff from all the streets goes into the ocean. He got horribly sick. And, you know, he was bedridden.

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2334.282

And he was like, what the fuck is going on with the ocean?

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2367.025

Yeah.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

2367.985

Well, that ground's ruined forever.

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2370.006

And then pours into the ocean. Twice the size of Manhattan. Ruined ground. All those people that had electric cars, those cars, those batteries, all that shit, all the plastics and the fiberglass and carbon fiber, all that stuff, the tires, all that stuff is now in the soil. Good luck having a garden. Good luck. You want to try to grow plants? Good luck.

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2439.529

Yeah. At least. Oh, I was evacuated three times when I lived in L.A.

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2452.265

It's nuts. It's crazy. Yeah. And nothing – I mean what they did during the fire was just so insane. Like the fact that the reservoir was empty. Oh, we need to make a lid for it. We didn't get around to it.

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2472.779

They don't have enough money.

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2479.72

Yeah. Schellenberger's great.

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2491.842

Karen Bass went to Ghana for a birthday party.

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2513.337

He's my favorite podcaster. I wish we'd get back to it. He stopped. I don't know why he stopped.

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2517.841

I didn't know that.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

2518.522

Yeah, the fucking show was horrible.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

2520.483

Oh, God.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

2521.004

Everybody was mocking him. It was so bad for him. He had this idea of reaching across the aisle. So he reached across the aisle, and he gets guys like Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon on, and they eat his lunch. And people, I think, in his party were like, what the fuck are you doing? You're making this look horrible. So he bails on his podcast. When was his last episode?

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

2545.985

Oh, Rahm Emanuel. Okay. Well, now he's with his own side. Scott Galloway. Okay. Pretty much his own side. Yeah. Yeah. Anthony Scarmucci. He hates Trump. That's a good move. Yep. Ezra Klein. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah. So it's not that it's gone away. It's just that it's so horrible nobody's watching it and no one is even talking about it anymore.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

2566.801

This is Gavin Newsom.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

2569.005

God, it's brutal. But it was so funny because that was the response after the election. They said, well, podcasts influence the election, so we'll start our own podcast. Your podcast is going to make people even more inclined to not vote for you.

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2603.913

Because it's a cult. It really is. Like leftism. Not being an actual progressive. Like an actual progressive is a person who's kind, who wants people to just exist and be yourself and live amongst us and we should all have... Social safety laws that are kind and compassionate.

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We should look at the fact that we are an incredible first world nation and we should roll out the red carpet to all the people that live here and try to make it a better place for everybody. That's real progressivism. And then it morphed into this let perverts get into the women's room. Let men compete in women's sports. And ignore the fact that some people are fucking psychotic.

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And give them a blank check as long as they just say they're a woman. Like, oh, you're a woman. Go ahead. Carte blanche. Get in. And not only that, but treat them better than you treat women themselves because they're actually more oppressed than women. Isn't that wild? So it's the oppression hierarchy.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

2661.503

So they get the gold medal in the oppression Olympics. It's bananas. It is bananas.

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2694.276

Especially when you're dealing with kids. Oh, that's a whole different place. This is where it gets really crazy. That's evil. There's this hilarious conversation between this woman who looks like she's probably in her 70s. And this person is asking her, if you had a granddaughter, would you support them taking puberty blocks? She's like, absolutely. Absolutely.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

2720.965

I think it's insane to try to force a girl to go through puberty if she's really a boy. Would you allow them to get a tattoo? Oh, I think that's permanent. Yeah. No irony. Seconds later, no recognition of what she's saying. Tattoos can be removed, lady.

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2742.216

Yeah.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

2761.293

Not only is it not true, but puberty blockers are the exact same thing they give to sex criminals. When you have a sexual molester that is forced to be on sterilization drugs, that's exactly what they give to young boys.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

2775.854

It's the same thing.

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282.193

What was the scientist?

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

2830.915

It gives them strokes.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

2853.623

Not only that, it goes the other way. The data goes the other way.

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They're 25% more likely to commit suicide, suicidal ideation, depression, anxiety. All those things ramp up once they've transitioned. Because they realize they've made a horrible mistake and they've been influenced by these crazy people. They want to use them as virtue flags. They want to use children as virtue flags. It's fucking insane.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

2878.174

They also shouldn't be allowed to call them a different thing than when they call themselves They call them chemical castration drugs for sex offenders. But yet they call them puberty blockers.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

2891.359

Gender affirming care. Isn't that lovely? Yeah. It's fucking barbaric and bananas. And we're going to look back at it the same way we looked at lobotomies. You know, we performed lobotomies for, I think, roughly around 50 or 60 years for... I think they stopped it in 1967. I think that's when they stopped the last lobotomies. And...

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

2911.244

Then they realize, like, oh, my God, this is a terrible thing to do. But they did it for so fucking long. And this is the same thing that's going to happen with this whole gender-affirming care thing for minors. It's crazy. Kids don't know what's going on. You have children. You know what it's like. They go through phases and cycles. They become tomboys and – Boys play with dolls.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

2933.165

Like, who cares? By the way, a lot of those boys that want to transition, it turns out they're just gay. And if you just leave them and let them be gay, and a lot of my gay friends fucking hate it because they're like, you're trying to erase gay people. You're trying to say that all these gay people are really in the wrong gender. That's ass.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3015.034

Well, it's just the money thing is so scary because when money gets attached to anything, all ethics and morals go out the window and they just try to make as much money from these things as is humanly possible. And they've always done that. They've always done that across the board with virtually everything. And we're surprised when it happens with children.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3042.472

No, most people aren't awake at all. And if it doesn't affect them personally, they feel like it's important to espouse these beliefs because these beliefs show that you're a good progressive.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3052.92

Yeah, it's like people's minds have been co-opted by... I don't necessarily believe in demons and angels. I don't believe that. But if you were the devil, wouldn't money be your most valuable tool to get people to do absolutely atrocious evil things that are going to ruin their lives? Money is like the devil's playground.

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306.485

Yeah.

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It's like where the devil can convince good people to do things, and then you use words like gender-affirming care, and you can kind of change the narrative. But the end result is really just you're profiting off of people's confusion. And you're doing so in a way where you're sacrificing. It's literal child sacrifice.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3099.096

Those children that wind up committing suicide because they went through this gender-affirming care and are horribly depressed and they don't have breasts anymore and they're so confused and they can't have children anymore. And they just wind up killing themselves and this is sacrifice. This is like a form of child sacrifice for financial gain.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3116.784

I mean you're not sacrificing them to the gods or to demons. You're doing it to money. And it's really wild that we can't see that. We can't like look at all the data and see and understand like the complex interaction of human beings and people that are around them that influence them.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3135.271

And, you know, that they get encouragement and then they get positive feedback and then they show up at school wearing lipstick and everyone's like, you're amazing. You're amazing now, Bobby. Now that you're Roberta, like now you're amazing. You used to be some guy that got stuffed into a locker and now your girl is incredible and you're giving them this positive feedback. You don't.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3157.219

And it's money. And people are profiting off of it. It's fucking insane. And it's so wild to watch it all play out and realize like we are so vulnerable to influence. Human beings are so – I mean this is why cults exist. This is why people are willing to be religious martyrs and blow themselves up, which by the way – Why do they do that? Why do they get kids to wear suicide vests?

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3182.488

Because you can't convince a 55-year-old guy to do it. 55 guy with a job and a family and a lot of interests and good friends. Tough to get him to wear that suicide vest. He's like, what? What am I doing? I'm going to a mall? What the fuck? No, why am I doing that? I'm going to heaven? And I'm going to get 72 virgins? Can you... Can you show me these virgins? What happened to them?

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3206.376

How did these poor virgins wind up in heaven just getting raped by this 55-year-old guy who blew himself up? This is fucking insane.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3214.14

Well, you can't get adults to believe that, but you can get children to believe that. So we don't want to take that same ability to influence and then just transfer it over to children and –

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3246.242

Oh, yeah, I read the book.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3290.589

Well, that's complex.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3292.71

Well, that's MKUltra.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3295.572

Do you think it's that? No, 100%. That's Jolly West. Jolly West was the CIA operative who visited Manson in jail. He's also the guy that visited Jack Ruby after he shot Kennedy. And then Jack Ruby starts saying, I'm seeing demons and the Jews are on fire. And Jack Ruby didn't have a history of mental illness like that, like complete psychotic breakdowns. But he did after...

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3319.187

Jolly West visited him in jail. Yeah. There was like there's like real documentation about those experiments. One of them is Operation Midnight Climax. So the CIA was operating brothels and they were operating brothels where they would have two way mirrors and they would be behind the mirrors.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3336.842

And these prostitutes who were working for the CIA would give the Johns LSD and then they would observe them.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3353.126

LSD in particular, yeah.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3445.401

Right.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3451.366

Yeah, it is brainwashing. And cults, we all know that cults are real, right?

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3455.59

We all know about the Manson family. We all know about Jim Jones. We all know about cults. And we know that human beings are very vulnerable to group influence. Now, when you have someone that's actually being trained by people that are psychologists and understand influence and then... also trained in using the implementation of LSD on these people.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3479.485

One of the things that Manson would do is he would pretend to take LSD and then he would give it to them and then influence them while they were under the influence and he was sober. And this was all learned through the Harvard LSD studies, which, by the way, created the Unabomber. Ted Kaczynski was a part of the Harvard LSD studies.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3501.955

Well, there was a bunch of things wrong with him. First of all, when he was a baby, he was severely ill. And they put him in some sort of an infirmary and he didn't have any human touch for months, for months. They just they like when he cried and he's in his crib, they left him there. His brother talked about it. There's a documentary on Netflix about him.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3525.486

And his brother talked about like even before the Harvard LSD studies, he they would you know, he was like really fucked up, really fucked up, complete lack of empathy. He was a sociopath. Yeah, a complete sociopath as a young man. And it would express itself when he would experience rejection from women.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3544.717

He would have like violent reactions to that rejection and write them horrific letters and torture them and yell at them.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3553.604

And then he goes through the Harvard LSD studies, which a part of his particular studies was humiliation. So he would be under the influence and they would humiliate him and they would abuse him and try to get him to a certain state of mind. So then this guy goes off to Berkeley, becomes a professor, and his whole idea is to just make enough money so that he can implement this program.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3578.561

Here's what's crazy about his ideas. He's kind of right.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3583.664

So he's kind of right and he thinks that technology is going to replace human beings. Like he sees this through all of his acid trips that human beings are going to be – and we probably are.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3596.28

Yeah.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3596.781

We probably are going to be replaced by AIs. We probably are going to be replaced by synthetic life that we create. And we're facilitating that with our reliance on technology. So he decides he's going to live off the grid in a cabin and kill all the people that are involved in technology. A very twisted, distorted story. reaction to this thing that we're recognizing as being real in 2025.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

362.767

Now they're finding out that people can still produce spike protein because the injections for over 700 days.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3622.082

That we are experiencing, we have AI on our phones now. We're constantly being monitored. We're constantly being surveilled. Your rights are getting very murky because all of your data is being given away. Everybody knows everything about you. It's easy to influence people with algorithms and also with bots. It's being used for political discourse. It's being used for so many different things.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3643.146

Essentially, You know, we don't want to think that cults can be half the country. But for sure it can be half the country. It can be the whole country. If you live under Sharia law, it's the whole country. Of course. The whole country believes that women have to cover every part of their body except their eyeballs. You know, and this is this this kind of thinking.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3663.533

We're very vulnerable to groupthink and especially groupthink that's being like intentionally manipulated also and then being done with psychedelic drugs. Now, they did it during the Manson era because they were trying to stop the anti-war movement. So they were trying to like the hippies and all these people that were like, hey, make love, not war. Right.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3683.188

We have to change the association that the general public has with these people because too many people are joining up with them. And so what they did was they got the Manson family and they got him to commit these horrific crimes. And every time Charles Manson would get arrested, he would get let out of jail. I mean, he was violating parole left and right.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

369.509

Yeah, you give it to your partner.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3700.668

And the cops that arrested him were all being told when they were interviewed, they would say, this is above my pay grade. They're telling me that I have to let him go. So they would be contacted by someone from the State Department or wherever and saying, let him go.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3730.346

Unfortunately, the documentary is only like, what, like 90 minutes?

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3756.07

So Greg was his friend when it was happening. So what he was doing is he was writing an article. I think it was for Vanity Fair or Variety. I forget. But the article was on the anniversary of the Manson killings. And so it was supposed to be just like, hey, this is the anniversary. Just write an article about the facts. So he starts going into the facts of the case and he's like, wait a minute.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3784.584

And so he starts investigating and he can't investigate enough. And then he gets in trouble because like the deadlines passed and then he gets a book deal and the deadline passes on that. He's just completely obsessed with getting to the bottom of this and absorbing more and more information and documenting it all. He's got enough for many books.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3802.229

And he I think I believe he's writing another book right now.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3826.556

Like when I talked to... Also a very different drug.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3829.883

Yeah, very, very different drug. Yeah, LSD is very different than all those.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3836.246

No, not with that, but perhaps you could if you did it correctly, if you knew how to manipulate people. Like Jolly West was well-versed in manipulation. I mean this was the whole part of the CIA's program. By the way, it's not just the CIA. It's other intelligence agencies. MIFI was doing it. The UK studies on psychedelics. You could see the videos of British troops on acid.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3864.537

They dosed up these British troops from, I want to say it was the 1950s. Do you know that video, Jamie? You know the video. We've played it before. But these guys are, you know, with full fatigues, just laughing, leaning up against trees, laughing. They gave them LSD. To what end? Well, they want to find out what it does. They thought it was a truth serum. Turns out it's not.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3885.53

Like, well, what can it do? And then so they used people to try to figure out what can be done with it. So this is 25 minutes. Let's put your headphones on real quick. Okay. The first effects of the drug became apparent.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

389.147

Well, you've heard Brett Weinstein talk about the flaws and just the technology itself and the fact that when it gets into your body, if it gets especially – the thing is nobody aspirated, right? They didn't inject people and pull back to make sure they're not on a blood vessel. They just plunged it, including when they did it live with Biden on television. Yes. I don't think that was a vaccine.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3983.137

Yeah, so this is one of the first experiments they did with LSD and soldiers.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3989.141

Would you be trying to spray the air over the opposition? I mean, otherwise, what?

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

3994.366

Well, you can infect their food supply. You can infect their water supply.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4002.334

Yeah, you could do that.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4005.717

I mean, there was also some experiments that they ran... I think it was in St. Louis, where they were using a fan and they were spraying things, aerosol spraying, to see what kind of effect things would have on people. Our government, if you give them the license, right? I don't want to say our government. Let's just stop saying that. Let's just say human beings with unchecked power.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4031.892

Human beings with unchecked power, they have an imperative. What are they trying to do? Well, they're trying to figure out what this stuff does and what's the best way to do it. You tried it out on soldiers. They've always done that with vaccines and a bunch of different experimental androgens. They've dosed them up with steroids and and all sorts of different things to increase aggression.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4052.388

Methamphetamine was used during the war to get kamikazes to fly their planes into boats.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4059.712

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4063.273

Yes, 1936 Olympics.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4067.816

Just rocking.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4078.346

Yeah, yeah. Jesus. Have you ever read Blitzed? No. Do we have it here still, Jamie? No. Norman Oller wrote this insane book on the ubiquitous use of drugs during the Third Reich and how it caused them to go through Poland in three days because they stayed up for three fucking days on meth. And they gave the most meth to the people that were driving the tanks because they were at the front.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

41.525

Yeah, I've got them on peptides now, which is nice. Same. And I've got my stepdad on testosterone replacement, which is nice, and he's seeing benefits of those things. So it's like they're slowly starting to incorporate some of these things. But their whole life they've been told that the doctor knows everything and that the news is always correct and anything contrary to the news is bullshit.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4103.926

So it was like they gave different doses depending on what your job was. And they just messed up, ran through Poland and they caught these people just like in France. Like their soldiers were given wine. So these people were like drunk. And then the Nazis came through, messed up and just fucking killed everybody.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

414.055

I say to this day, people are like, yeah, well, you're a conspiracy theorist. Yeah, I think, yeah, I'm telling you right now. I think it's a conspiracy. I don't think they would take a chance in injecting a fucking 80-year-old man when you know that you have to, like, stay there at the clinic for 20 minutes in case you drop dead.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4164.211

Well, I think human beings are capable of great atrocities without any kind of drugs.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4170.219

Yeah. Really? Yeah, they do it. I mean, look at Vietnam. Look at the things that people did during Vietnam. I don't think they dosed them up in Vietnam.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4179.003

And, you know, in Vietnam, people were taking heroin and smoking weed, and they were still doing that. People have an evil capacity to other people and decide. You see it politically, you know, in this country. Like, people on the left will demonize people on the right. People on the right will demonize people on the left. It's just like...

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4199.111

It's a tribal thing that – it's an echo of our past because essentially when we were small tribes of 150 people and then you got invaded by a neighboring tribe, you had to be able to commit extreme violence against the other and you had to be able to think of them as not you. That's not a person. That's them and you have to be able to go after them. I can understand that broadly.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4228.912

Okay, right, fair.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4267.811

I bet you'd be capable of extreme violence.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4292.126

Well, that's the appeal of The Walking Dead.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4294.907

The Walking Dead, the zombies become inconsequential. The real problem is people.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4311.256

Well, like look at what they did during the Inquisition. You can't say that that was drugs. These were people that just decided they were going to torture people. And they had, you know, they decided they othered people. And this is a really evil aspect of human nature.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4338.249

You have to have a strong army. You have to have people that can defend you against people that want to do that to people here. And then they have to have a strong ethical and moral foundation where they would never – Be compromised. Yeah, they have to be the good guys.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4353.26

They have to think that they're the good guys and have a very strong ethical and moral foundation that doesn't allow them to compromise that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4371.656

Well, we like to think that we're the good guys, but the biggest thing that's ever been done to human beings that's horrific is the nuclear bomb. Like indiscriminate killing of civilians, hundreds of thousands, boom, in one shot.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4416.953

Yeah.

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Yeah, sometimes you have to become a monster.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

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Yeah, if you want to defeat evil, you have to become a monster. Because if you don't, you won't beat it. You have to do horrific things to beat horrific people. You have to kill them, right? Like if someone's invading and they're shooting guns at people and they show up at the beach and they pull up in boats and they start gunning people down, you have to do the same to stop that.

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4453.209

You can't like bring out daisies and go, hey, guys, like I bake you these pot brownies just like – Let's just chill. Let's just rethink this, man.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4492.563

Well, then imagine a language barrier. We have no idea what they're saying. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And then a cultural barrier where their culture believes that if they die, that they're going to go to heaven and that there be a martyr. And so they're willing to do that. They're excited to die and to kill you with them. Because they believe that the real prize is not in this life.

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4516.063

It's in the next life. But we're very vulnerable. We're very vulnerable to this kind of thinking. And I don't know why we're designed this way.

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4526.551

It's a distortion probably of tribal survival primate instincts. Have you ever watched Chimp Nation? No.

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4538.428

Oh, they do.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4548.672

You ever see a cat with a mouse? Okay.

The Joe Rogan Experience

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4553.394

Yeah, they torture mice. They hold on to them and then they let them go. And the mouse is like, oh, Jesus is going to let me go. Like, not today, motherfucker. And then they torture them and want to keep playing with them. Yeah, they have zero empathy. Cats are the worst. They have zero empathy, especially house cats because they're well fed. So they're not doing it for food.

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457.225

Well, that's not a vaccine.

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4572.965

They're just doing it because they have instincts to kill. These instincts are being distorted because the real instinct that they have to kill is so that they could survive. But when they're fully fed, they don't turn those instincts off. Now they just have this kill drive that's never satiated. Cats are the perfect killer. They move so fast. They're so stealthy.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

459.367

Calling it a vaccine is fucking crazy.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4599.738

They have it from the time they're kittens. You see them crawl up to each other very slowly, very slowly, jump on each other.

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4605.819

I'm thinking about our cat, actually, as you're talking. When we lived in Miami, he would use the dog door, and he would bring in iguanas this big.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

461.488

It was a totally experimental gene therapy. And what Brett was saying about it is if you don't aspirate, you're shooting it right into a blood vessel. If you're shooting it right into a blood vessel, it could go to all sorts of areas of the body where the body is going to attack it like it's a disease, particularly the heart.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4615.241

Isn't that crazy?

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4618.512

my wife would be like honey you know chasing this fucking iguana around the house it was it was yeah and he wouldn't he wouldn't kill it no they're not trying to kill it they're having fun he was having fun now that i i mean you have a little murderer that you live with yeah yeah cute little bastard but yes that's what cats are you know and that's a part of their essence i mean they are the cleanup crew they're they're there to make sure the populations don't get out of control

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4644.88

Have you ever seen the numbers on cats, like domestic cats, what they kill every year?

The Joe Rogan Experience

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4653.222

Billions. Billions of birds and billions of rodents.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4656.203

He's an indoor cat now? Do you want everybody to know this?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4658.564

Let's look at the numbers. Jesus, really? Because people—we've brought it up before, but it's worth repeating because it's kind of crazy. So it sort of illustrates his point. So this is like— Billions? Yes. B, with B. I didn't know there were that many house cats. Oh, it does. They don't have to be. They kill hundreds. Each cat. Feral cats are ruthless.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4679.739

House cats, feral cats, wild cats, any cat that's outside. Yeah, they instantly kill. Okay, here it is. Domestic cats are the leading cause of bird deaths in the United States. Estimated to kill 1.3 and 4 billion birds annually. This includes both pet cats and cats that roam outdoors and feral cats.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4699.55

American Bird Conservancy estimates that free-ranging cats kill approximately 2.4 million. It's hard to know what the real numbers are.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4706.495

Of course, right, yeah. But they know it's in the billions.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4708.076

It's in the billions.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4708.916

That's right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4710.197

But imagine how many birds there would be if cats didn't do that. Like, who's going to kill them? Like, the sky would be filled with birds. You'd go outside and just get shit on everywhere.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4719.019

It's like an Alfred Hitchcock movie.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4733.362

And the fleas on the rats caused... Well, that's the coyote problem in California, right? Like people like, oh, I hate coyotes. Right. But do you hate coyotes more than you hate rats? Because coyotes are the reason why rats aren't everywhere. You know, like where I used to live, like there was a lot of coyotes, but I don't see very many rats.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4754.131

And that's the reason why the wolves, the little wolves, which is what a coyote is, a small wolf. They're rat killers. And rabbit killers and everything else they get a hold of.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4780.572

They ate my daughter's puppy. But a mountain lion ate one of my dogs when I lived in Colorado. Ugh. Yeah, it's like cats are motherfuckers, you know?

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

479.881

And he's like, this is why you get myocarditis, because the heart doesn't heal, which is why you don't get heart cancer. Your heart just scars over. So people have these inflamed, enlarged hearts and then diminished cardiovascular function. And he was talking about this way earlier than anybody else. And they were, blood on his hands, he's killing grandmas. The vaccine saved millions of lives.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4791.141

And predators, like, at least predators are doing it for food.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4807.578

You can't really coyote proof your yard either. I had a coyote kill a chicken in my yard. We had a six foot tall wrought iron fence. With the rollers on it?

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4817.261

But the coyote with the chicken in its mouth leaped to the top like a ballerina. It was so elegant. I was really impressed with its athleticism. And as a person who admires physical... I was like, well, that's very impressive. Because with a chicken in its mouth, leaped up to the top of the fence, got its paws on it, went over just so gracefully and so adept. It was really impressive.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4852.377

The cat thing is fucked up because they're not even doing it for food. But it's like that thing inside of them has been... It's there. You can't satisfy it with just food. I mean, they literally are the cleanup crew for nature. That's what they are in Africa. When you see them, they're looking for the wounded antelopes. They're looking for anybody who's old.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4872.856

They're looking for anybody who just can't run fast enough. And that's what they do. And that's how they keep the populations down. You know, this is the reason why they've reintroduced wolves into Colorado. And that's the reason why they reintroduced wolves in Montana. And the elk populations decreased significantly because the elk populations were out of control. Right.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4890.43

So they brought in wolves and the wolves like radically dropped the population down. And they even do surplus killing where they'll kill a bunch of things where they can't eat. But just that they can't help themselves. They have the opportunity to kill. And so they do.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4905.444

So what is the antidote to this within the human population? Because I see the necessity for survival, but it can make you quite depressed if you let it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4942.757

I want to... There's nothing wrong with that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4967.391

Well, we are a primitive... And I've become that way. We're a primitive evolving species. And we're still trapped with these primate bodies. We're territorial primates with weapons. Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

4981.002

And we're still trapped with the same instincts that got us to the dance, the same instincts that caused us to create walled cities, which allowed us to survive, and then agriculture, which allowed us to develop surpluses. And then people wanted those surpluses, nomads. And they came in, the roving barbarians, the Mongolian hordes. This is like all part of our history. Yeah.

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5004.802

And this is the battle of good versus evil. And the battle of good versus evil, I think this duality has to exist. I think you have to have good to combat evil and you have to have evil to keep good in check, like to enhance good and to force people to really – to rise and to innovate and to figure out how to defeat evil. Without evil and without –

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

501.576

People say that all the time. They've saved millions of lives. Like, how? If people still got COVID, not only that, they got more COVID than people that didn't get vaccinated.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5030.652

The idea of these hordes, we never would have developed cities. If we never developed cities, we never would have gone through the Industrial Revolution. We wouldn't develop cities if we were just roving, peaceful, nomadic hunter-gatherers. We would be the same.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5059.864

It's always like that. But that's that is what causes people to strive to do better.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5065.986

I think it is.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5082.103

You know, you have to have principles that you live your life by, right? And be aware of evil, but do your best to be good.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5095.114

Without evil, you have no desire to be good. Why be wonderful? Why be kind? There's no contrast. There's nothing you're fighting against. This is, unfortunately, what motivates entropy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5156.3

Where's the mic?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5157.521

Too dark of a conversation. It's like, that's it. No more of this dark shit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5162.483

Is it back now? Oh, yep. That's weird. I didn't even touch it. Okay, I'm back.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5169.06

It's evil.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5170.021

Evil's trying to stop me from saying, the moment I'm saying there's more good than there is evil.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5175.404

The mic disconnects.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5176.565

Yeah, I think, unfortunately, evil can co-op people, and because good people can become evil when they experience so much evil that they have to become, you know, become a monster.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5185.811

Fight against monsters.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5218.647

Well, that's a perfect example. That's money. And if money is the devil, that's a perfect example.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5226.175

Yeah.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5227.456

It's not you, though. The problem is corporations. I'm sure you've seen this before. Corporations behave like a psychopath.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5234.984

Right.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5235.424

Because corporations don't have humanity. And when you have a corporation, which I don't know how we get away from not having corporations. So what's the solution there? But corporations have an obligation to their shareholders.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5247.873

And sometimes you have to do fucked up things in order to make more money. And that's when you're in the business of drugs. If you're in the business of making movies, what fucked up things can you do to make more movies and make movies that more people are going to see? Really nothing. It's like you just have to make them resonate with people.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5267.543

But if you're selling drugs, boy, you can influence people. You can lie about studies. You can have your scientists perform studies and then throw out all the studies that don't jive with whatever you're trying to sell.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

528.394

But, you know, it's only based on the idea that those people would have died if they didn't have COVID. And the problem is you're going to get COVID anyway. So that data is bullshit. Not only that, even when people got COVID, 99.07 of those fuckers lived. This episode is brought to you by Squarespace.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5282.912

Yeah, you compromise all these politicians and get them to repeat your narratives.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5288.517

Oh, yeah. That should be illegal.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5292.482

But the problem is it's not. So how do you get it out?

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5311.27

Here's step one. You got to say they can't advertise. That's number one.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5316.752

Because not only is it not – advertising is not really the problem. It's part of the problem. But the real problem is when they advertise – and Callie Means talked about this extensively. Now the media will not criticize them because they're responsible for an enormous percentage of their income.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5338.126

But that's not a First Amendment thing.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5340.249

Because you could still do it on social media. You could still make your own podcast if you're Pfizer.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5348.819

Right. But you can't advertise for cigarettes on television. Right. Why? Because we've decided... Kids, I think.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5374.289

Well, ironically, this is self-sabotage for the media itself because no one takes them seriously anymore because they don't do that. Because they don't criticize the pharmaceutical drug companies. They don't talk about vaccine side effects. They don't talk about pharmaceutical drug side effects. They don't.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5405.436

Don't look at the fucking data on statins, by the way.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5416.867

They don't understand the data.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5427.397

Because they're compromised, right? It's not really news. It's only the news that they feel compelled to talk about due to their financial interests.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5437.266

But the problem with that, like look at the ratings on CNN. They're fucking collapsing and they're in a spiral. Why? Because no one trusts them anymore. So the public trust has been eroded because of their own desire to make more money.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5485.781

Do you think there's an argument for GLP-1 drugs, though, for people who are morbidly obese? Because I kind of do.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

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Yes.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

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Yeah.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

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It's all weird because I think the problem also is competition, right? If Ibogaine becomes ubiquitous and these clinics become everywhere, the real issue becomes... How much does that compete with the pharmaceutical drug market's value? How much does that decrease their ability to profit? And it's probably significantly.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5673.348

But here's the thing. If they do allow the use of Ibogaine and then also they allow the use of psilocybin, if more people start taking it, more people are not going to buy whatever the pharmaceutical drug companies are selling and they'll just naturally sort of deteriorate. You're always going to have fools. You're always going to have people that just want to, what do I take? I'll take it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5694.594

There's always going to be people like that. And those people are there to give you a lesson without you having to fall prey to the folly that they have fallen prey to. I think that's the same with a lot of addictions, particularly gambling addiction. I'm in Vegas all the time, and I don't gamble. I play blackjack for fun, but like $20 here, $100. I don't get it. But I see it. I see it.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5722.622

I see that crazed look in the eyes. I think gambling addiction is one of the weirder ones. I've been around it a good portion of my life. And it's the sweaty fucking faces. This need to gamble is really nuts. And that's another part of the human reward system that's been hijacked.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5764.147

It's slot machine logic.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5769.572

Easy to manipulate. We're weird creatures.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5773.455

And again, it's all our survival instincts get hijacked.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5782.407

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5788.575

Yes. Well, that's the thing. You have to have freedom of the use of these alternative methods. And I think naturally those would overcome. They would succeed. I think you'd still probably have gambling addicts. You still probably would have people that want to take all the pharmaceutical drugs, like whatever the doctor wants to prescribe to them. But it would be less and less.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5807.848

And they don't want that, which is why you're seeing the pushback from the FDA with peptides and all these different things. It's because they're concerned that if you give people a bunch of things that are going to make them healthy, they're not going to take as many pharmaceutical drugs.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5853.208

Brigham had to walk me through how to use it on freaking FaceTime. He's like, snap. It's ridiculous. It is insane.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5860.736

It's pretty crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5863.298

By the way, there's a new stroke drug that I actually just sent my friend Rich because our friend Keith Robinson, I don't have his number, but he suffered from a stroke. And there's some new drug that – I'll send this to you, Jamie. These UCLA scientists – have developed, oh, you got it already. They developed first drug rehabilitation to repair brain damage.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5885.55

Drug replicated the recovery of movement control produced by rehab in mice.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5890.592

Oh, that's cool.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5891.492

Yeah, so this is March 18th. New study by UCL Health has discovered what researchers say is the first drug to fully reproduce the effects of physical stroke rehabilitation in model mice following from human studies. Yeah, which is wonderful. So this is the benefit of pharmaceutical drugs. There are some pharmaceutical drugs that are wonderful.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5917.061

So the goal is to have medicine that stroke patients can take that produces the effects of rehabilitation. Dr. S. Thomas Carmichael, the study's lead author and professor and chair of UCLA Neurology, rehabilitation after stroke is limited in its actual effects because most patients cannot sustain the rehab intensity needed for stroke recovery.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5936.306

Further, stroke recovery is not like most other fields of medicine where drugs are available to treat the disease, such as cardiology, infectious disease, or cancer. Carmichael said rehabilitation is a physical medicine approach that has been around for decades. We need to move rehabilitation into an era of molecular medicine.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5953.138

So this is why, you know, you don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5959.943

There's drugs that the pharmaceutical drug companies make that help people and heal them and fix them and save their lives.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

5972.091

Just like you have to, you know, keep your kids from eating all the sugar. Completely. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6.194

Showing by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. Yes. Good to see you. You too. We were just talking about boomers, about parents, parents that don't want to believe anything other than what they're getting from the news. Yeah.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6047.656

And we need to have actual access to data. And this is a real problem that we've had in the last few decades because there's been this revolving door between the FDA and pharmaceutical drug companies. So people – I think it's like seven out of eight heads of the FDA went on to work for pharmaceutical drug companies. Revolving door, 100%. Which –

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6068.377

So you've developed these relationships with these pharmaceutical drug companies where you're like they're funding the studies. They're funding all. And then you leave and then you go to work for them and you get a nice cushy job. So you kind of like look sideways.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6111.056

I was like, oh, there's another step. Okay. Got it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6116.202

So great. It should be completely illegal. Yeah. I mean, you want to talk about a conflict of interest. That's the biggest conflict ever. And you're dealing with billions of dollars in profit.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

614.369

When you have 330 million people in this country and then you look at that 0.3%, that starts looking like a lot of people. But those are just people that are on death's door. That's the reality. Metabolically unhealthy, obese, diabetes, all sorts of problems, cancer, leukemia, on chemotherapy. Those are the people that died.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6149.337

That's what you see. And you're going to keep seeing that if nothing gets changed. And that's what's encouraging about this administration. Correct. So the thing that I was most excited about was Bobby Kennedy. When Bobby Kennedy united with Trump, I was like, OK, I'm in. Because if he can get in there, you can see real change that's going to affect the way our lives are forever.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6172.282

It's going to change things. It's going to give people a real understanding of what's going on behind the scenes, why you've been lied to, why all these drugs are everywhere, why you're seeing poor health outcomes, why we're the richest nation in the world but also the sickest. You know, why... And across the board, with education, we're the richest nation in the world.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6191.523

We have terrible education scores. Like, why? Why, since we developed a Department of Education, have our scores plummeted? Like, what is that? And again, road to hell, good intentions.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6266.554

I cannot.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6269.538

Do you know California, it's now some insane number, like 1 in 12 boys?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6285.519

Well, they also think that one of the reasons why it's boys over girls is like in girls, it's like less obvious. It's less diagnosed.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6294.047

I've seen that. I'm not sure if that's true either, because that's the argument also. It's like, oh, autism has always been here. It's just it just hasn't been diagnosed correctly. Right.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

63.861

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6310.917

But people don't want to admit they did that to their kids, and so they will defend it to the death. Just like people who have turned their kids trans don't want to admit that these are chemical castration drugs. They don't want to admit it. They don't want to admit that they possibly have contributed to mental disease, their mental health disease, to anxiety and depression and suicide.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6331.209

No, no, no. Would you rather have a live boy or a dead girl? Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6336.754

What are you fucking saying?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6384.078

I'm like, you know what? I mean, wear a fucking condom for God's sake.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6411.346

Well, the problem is it's gone tribal. Right. And when you have an us versus them thing going on, which is what we do here in this country, you know, like I keep seeing like people online saying in these dark times, are these times so dark? Like what is happening? But, you know, you know, it's dark. Yeah. If you're living in Gaza, it's pretty fucking dark. If you're living in Ukraine, pretty dark.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6432.232

But like here is have things gone dark? This totalitarian regime. What's totalitarian? That they're cutting fraud and waste? Have you paid attention to the fraud and waste? Have you paid attention to the fact they spent $250 million on transgender animal studies? Where's your fucking money going?

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6451.905

You're not concerned with this unchecked spending that this government has been able to do for decade upon decade and these millions of NGOs? Do you know there's an NGO in India for every 600 people?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6470.293

There's 3.3 million NGOs in India. There's an NGO in India for every 600 people. And this is why we're $36 trillion in debt. Those numbers are nuts.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6492.392

Well, we definitely shouldn't do that. You know, if you can prove that this is also the problem with charities. This is the dark truth of charities is that most charities, the money goes to bureaucracy. A huge percentage of it goes to overhead. And in fact, most charities, the vast majority of the money never gets to the charity.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6524.623

It wasn't even. It's probably fraud and waste. It's both. And there's also, well, my friend Coleon Noir, he brought this up and I was never aware of it until he said it. He went to San Francisco and he saw the rampant, and he's a lawyer. So he went to San Francisco and he saw all this homelessness and he's like, what is the problem? There's not enough funding.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6542.868

And a guy over there going, no, no, no, no, no. You don't understand. It's the opposite. There's a business now. So these people that are working in the homeless, you know, whatever the organization, they're making a quarter million dollars a year.

The Joe Rogan Experience

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6577.68

Just imagine if they weren't there, how much homeless we'd have.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6583.945

So just relax.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

663.669

That must have drove you crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6631.681

So what is, I don't understand, what's the definition?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6639.866

Because the children don't own homes?

The Joe Rogan Experience

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6726.558

Oh, God.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6731.722

Well, if you see these tent communities, you see clearly that you're dealing with drug addiction and mental illness.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

675.054

You're still a good liberal. If you go back to the old definition.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6796.777

Common sense is not that common, right? Yeah. no it's also people are tired because they have a poor diet and they're not eating well and so they don't have the time to be thinking about this stuff they don't have the mental energy to like research these things and they're overwhelmed with bills and debt and you know and maybe like relationship problems and

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6816.189

You know, there's so many problems that people have already to get them to look at external issues that maybe don't affect them personally on a day to day basis. It's very difficult to get people to focus on that. So then they vote with what they think is like their virtue. You know, blue no matter who vote Democrat, no matter what. Like that's not helping you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6837.594

And then when you abandon it and leave, you're called a traitor. You know, you're a traitor to the party. Yeah, you must get that a lot.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6904.601

You're literally gay. It's a tough one.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6938.272

Yeah, but all that stuff is losing its meaning. You know, the problem is you keep calling people racist. You call everyone a racist. Like, it doesn't mean anything anymore. You're crying wolf so many times that people don't listen anymore. Like a real racist is horrific. You run into a real racist, like, oh my God, that's horrific.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6955.306

But if you just call everyone a racist, if you go math is racist, like, okay, math's racist? Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are racist. I've seen that. Okay. Oh, I haven't seen that one. Exercise is racist.

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6975.678

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

6995.922

Well, they think he's a Nazi. More than just an anti-Semite.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7002.549

Yeah. And here's the irony. He's on the spectrum. So this thing, he didn't even realize what he's doing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7009.854

My heart goes out to you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7020.881

Tim Walsh. I love you all. Yes. This is like a it's like a thing that people have to stop doing. But that's that. You got to do it like this. You got to have two hands, touch your heart. I'm not doing it. When I was getting in trouble with CNN during the vaccine days, the COVID days, they would use a photograph of me from the UFC weigh-ins.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7043.292

Because when I go to the UFC weigh-ins, I say, welcome to the weigh-ins, everybody. So they had this photo of me from the side. That's the one they used all the time.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7074.201

He has a necklace around his neck that he's given to one of the mothers of the hostages that says, bring them home.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7097.555

It's all dumb. But it's all a trick because what they're really doing is going after him because he's trying to go after USAID.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7111.565

Oh, I have friends that I have to argue about it with.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7116.008

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7121.271

It is. It's just not losing its power with really fucking dumb people. And you're going to have a certain percentage of really fucking dumb people. And they're either going to have to catch up or we're going to have to overwhelm them with a lot of logic. That. And that takes time. And it takes a lot of these kind of conversations. And they get out there and they get clipped.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7138.523

And maybe you and I said something here that will be taken out of context and used against you, which is always really fun. That's my favorite. Just take like a snippet of it. See, told you she's a this. She's a that. It's this reductionist thing where they try to define you by a string of words. Forget about your whole life.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7180.743

I like Candace a lot, but Candace says a lot of wild shit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7183.904

It's not accurate. But do you think she hates Jews?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7190.927

That is like self-inflicted. I understand. That's a self-inflicted wound.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

72.874

No, I think it's always been compromised. I just think there was no alternatives.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7202.593

Well, that's my friend Daryl Cooper who was on my podcast because he said hyperbolically that Winston Churchill was one of the main villains of World War II because he started blockades and forced Hitler into action and starved the German people. It's like what he said – was really unfortunate the way he said it the way he said it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7226.912

But he was trying to say that Winston Churchill did some things that if he hadn't done them, maybe World War II wouldn't have gone the way it went. But the problem is when you say that and it gets taken out of context, people say, oh, he's a Holocaust denier and a Nazi sympathizer. But then you listen to his podcast.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7244.388

He's got this like, I think it's like 30 hours called Fear and Loathing in New Jerusalem. And it's the most gut-wrenching tale of the persecution of Jews in Eastern Europe. Just the beginning of it. I tell everybody, just listen to the first like 40 minutes of it. It's so heartbreaking. This is not the words of a homophobe or, excuse me, of an anti-Semite that would say those things.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7291.14

But he's neither an asshole or an idiot and he's being called an asshole and an idiot by people who don't consume his work.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7321.013

Yeah. There's just a lot of bad faith actors out there. And there's a lot of people that do that. This taking people out of context and trying to use this reductionist perspective and label people with these pejoratives that are inescapable. Like it's in the racist, homophobe, anti-Semite, all those. Those are inescapable.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7341.33

And once you get hit with those, that's your that's your your fucking sticker on your forehead for the rest of your life. And that's what they're trying to do to you because they're trying to silence you and because they want to win.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7352.843

And this is a real problem with human beings when it comes to ideas is that like if I believe something and you believe something differently, I don't want to listen to you. I want to beat you. I want to overwhelm you with talk. I want to Piers Morgan you into submission. I want to yell at you. Not Piers the human, but the show.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7370.344

I know what you're talking about, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7371.445

You want to yell at them and you want to win. You want to dunk on them. And this is why I don't engage with people on social media. I just think it's the worst way to communicate. And when I see people doing it, I genuinely feel bad for them because I think they're mentally ill. When people are dunking on people constantly on social media, I'm like... Well, that's a sign of mental illness.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7390.922

There's something wrong with you. You don't realize that yet? This shit's been around for 20 years now, and you're still engaging in that kind of behavior on social media? It's stupid.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7407.221

I get enough attention so I don't need to reach out and try to get more. By the way, that's what you're supposed to do when you get a lot of attention. You're supposed to rise above with great power, great responsibility. You're supposed to try to be nicer. That's one of my core tenets in life. Be as nice as possible. Here's a shocker. I find people are nice to me almost entirely.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7431.391

Like very rarely are people not nice to me because I'm nice to everybody. So if you're nice to everybody, guess what? People are nice to you. And even people I disagree with, like disagree with fundamentally.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7483.983

He's a friend of ours. He's been on the podcast a couple times.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7488.464

Darryl's a musician.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7490.304

And he met.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7493.365

Not just one. No. He's got more than a hundred of these KKK guys to give him their robes. Yeah. And convert and change them over.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7505.127

Just by love. Just with love.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7510.976

Yeah. Well, Daryl's a really amazing person, a shining example of what's possible. When you just show people, he's like, man, you're different than all the others. He's like, actually, I'm just a human. I just have more melanin in my skin. And you are, unfortunately, you have been trapped by an ideology. You have othered people simply by their looks.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

753.107

Piers Morgan was saying this or the guests?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7533.067

And you haven't learned this lesson that we were supposed to be taught by Dr. King in the 1960s. Judge a man by the content of the character.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7569.989

But it takes so much time. You know, it's like Indiana Jones when the guy starts throwing the whip and he just pulls the gun out and just shoots him. It's like I just want to shut the fuck up. And that's what a lot of people like, especially today in this like everybody wants to take Ozempic. You want a quick fix? You don't want to work out for fucking six years to lose 50 pounds.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

757.03

Piers' show is Maury Povich 2.0. It's a better version of Maury Povich.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7591.529

No, I want to just lose 50 pounds in a month. And this is the quick fix thing of today's society. And when you're offered this pill that makes you smarter instead of reading books, like, yeah, I'll take that pill. This is the argument that I've said to people when they always talk about, I don't have time for exercise. I'm not interested in my body. This is stupid. It's vain. It's just not.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7615.19

I'm like, listen. If I gave you a pill, just gave you a pill, and that pill made you fit and healthy and muscular, you wouldn't take that pill? Improved your self-confidence. Why would you not want a body that works way better?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7649.685

Oh, I have a lot of friends like that. A lot of comedians. It's like their entire act, like being fat.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7654.787

It's a big part of it. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7674.083

I know, right? That's the problem.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7676.285

I'm going to die. I was dying inside for him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7679.127

And also, if you're 420 pounds or whatever he is, like, boy, the road to becoming healthy is hundreds of pounds away. And that is so daunting, especially when you have the pull of addiction. Yes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7692.871

That's the big problem.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7693.911

Yeah. And then you get to eat intuitively.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

77.538

Yeah, that's what I think.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7703.274

If I eat intuitively, I eat only pizza. Yeah. I would have a diet that's 100% pizza, fries, and ice cream, and Coca-Cola would be my whole diet.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7750.3

It's really kooky. It's weird. But the only way out is through conversations. The only way out is to educate people or enlighten people or expose people to other ideas. Like, you're not really going to educate them, but you will expose them to other ideas. And I think over time... the good ideas will win.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7770.585

It's just, it's been so many years of bad ideas and it's so indoctrinating and it's so difficult. And then also it's your identity. Your identity is this, you know, whatever it is, whether you're Matt Walsh or whether you're a 420 pound trans person, like your identity is like embedded in whatever you think of yourself as being.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7790.577

And it's very difficult to take wisdom from someone that you think of as the enemy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7805.485

That's true.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

782.287

Yeah, he does a good job of that. I just don't think it's a good way to discuss ideas.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7837.654

You also have to find a tribe. You have to surround yourself with other people that are trying to prove themselves. So if other people around you are trying to improve themselves, then it will encourage you to be a part of that group and you all do it together. And then help each other if you fall off the wagon and pick each other up and reinforce positive behavior.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

787.25

But it's really good as far as going viral. It's great.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7902.486

Yeah, that's a good point.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7918.362

And you're focusing on improving.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7923.625

That's what people love about CrossFit is the whole community of people.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7926.707

You go there, you're all working out together. I used to love that about yoga class.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7930.25

You go to a bunch of people. I knew them all. Like, hey, what's up? But you don't talk until after it's over. It's one of those things. They've really discouraged talking before. But you're all sweating together. You're going through it together. There's no other way. And then you get out the other end. You're like, wow, I wouldn't have done that by myself. I would have quit at like 40 minutes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7951.42

But I did the whole 90 minutes. And now I feel better. And then the rest of the day is easy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7977.649

You have to believe that you have to kill these heretics.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7983.413

How do we tip things over to the right side?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7985.834

You have to make your side be more attractive. You have to make your side kinder and more empathetic and also more admirable.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

7999.282

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8000.603

Yeah, you have to wish you had those characteristics and go, why don't I? Maybe I can. And just also realize you're not who you used to be. If you were a fat, alcoholic, gambling addict, you don't have to stay that way forever. You just you don't have to. You're not that you're a human being. You are trapped with behavior and ideas that were not self-serving.

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#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8023.102

They're not good for people around you. You probably stole things to feed your addictions and you feel you have terrible self-worth and terrible self-image. But that's not. You. That's who you have been. You are who you are right now. So if you choose right now to be positive from here on out and you're going to have some mistakes and fuck up along the way but find a group.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8045.869

This is why Alcoholics Anonymous is so important.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8048.213

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8048.513

You get around these people and you all agree. They're all like – and you have sponsors and you help each other. Like this is the whole idea of community. We are not solitary individuals. We're just not. We are a collective organism experiencing itself in individual ways.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8067.448

I agree with you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8072.026

sometimes see evil winning out more often than not well because that's what's in the news and that's also what's in your algorithm you know and that's why you have to stay off social media yeah i feel so much better i've been off social media like almost entirely for like a few wow like

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8092.75

really weaned off about two weeks ago I really followed my wife's footsteps because like she just got off and she's like I feel so much better I'm like damn that's crazy and so I'm like let me try it and so I tried it for a day I was like wow I feel so much better after this day and then I tried a couple days and then I'm like oh it's real

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8110.583

Like, there's, you know, Sugar Sean O'Malley, UFC champion, he said, he goes, I get a low-level anxiety when I'm scrolling through social media. I'm like, right, what is that? Like, what is that? But that shit's real. It's also you realize, like, you're just distracting yourself with this stupidity.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

812.871

It's everything I swallow in every conversation with all my friends from California.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8127.378

That's for continued.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8129.96

But when you don't do that, your mind feels better. It really does feel better. So I will occasionally, like if I'm on the toilet, I'll like scroll through Twitter, find out what is everybody mad at, and then I'll put it away. And then sometimes I'll go days without looking at it at all. And then sometimes like I got a text the other day like, hey, man, are you okay? I'm like, well, what?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8150.841

And they're like, oh, people are mad at you on Twitter. I'm like, okay. That's not the real world, bro. I don't even know what they're mad at. Like, no, don't reach. Like, a friend of mine sent me something that people are, I go, don't send me that shit. I'm not looking at it. I don't care.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8171.85

Well, the thing is, it's not me. It's them. They think that I'm upset at this thing because they would be upset at this thing because they don't get attacked. Right? So, like, my sister used to send me things like that. I'm like, don't send me that shit. I don't care.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8221.933

And by the way, the worst thing you could do is fight back, which is really crazy. The worst thing you can do is interact with people that are attacking you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8228.555

Which is really kind of... But that's everyone's instinct. Everyone's instinct is to go, well, I'll tell you what I think now.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8261.647

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8263.388

Well, you do, but also you can't control what people think. Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8268.552

The only thing you can do is be undeniable.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

827.143

I don't like that. I don't like doing that. So I don't – I'm not interested in that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8273.696

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8275.097

That's all you have. And so what happens with haters is they challenge you to become more undeniable. And so that's good. That's what their job is.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8284.045

All the losers of the world, they challenge you to become a bigger winner.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8301.994

Right, because people will fight so hard to keep their bad habits.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8315.188

That's an attention thing, right? They're upset that you're getting the attention that they think they deserve. Like, she doesn't even know what the fuck she's talking about. You see a lot of that in the health space.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

832.244

I get it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

832.844

I'm not interested in that kind of conflict. I don't want to talk to people like that. I don't like it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8357.596

It's not even – it's just that that guy with a different opinion on cholesterol is getting a lot of attention. And then these people are comparing them. They're comparing themselves to that person. Why don't I get this –

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

837.605

I understand.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8427.847

But outside of that, when you know it's bullshit. There's also the problem with bots.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8433.451

The vast majority of Twitter might be bots. You know, an FBI analyst that used to – he used to analyze big data sets. He said – he looked at Twitter and he said it might be about 80 percent bots.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8463.28

They shape narratives.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8465.661

Rogue states and different people use it. I'm sure there's publicity firms that use it. I'm sure. I mean, I don't know.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8476.085

You could use it with AI. You could easily have one computer that would run many, many accounts. And you could program it to have variations on a theme. But you see it... Sometimes when like there's a lot of social media influencers that get co-opted. And one of the things that you see is a very similar message, you know, and they use very similar phrasing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

85.744

Sometimes that's the worst.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8501.013

You know, sharp as a tack was one of them. And you saw that over and over again with Biden, like sharp as a tack.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8508.382

So they were getting influenced and they were getting paid.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8526.608

And it is.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8571.928

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8589.857

right in time well not only that they came up with a new term and that term is malinformation ah do you know what malinformation is malinformation is true information oh that might do harm did not know this so there's misinformation disinformation and malinformation i have not heard that malinformation was something they were trying to promote during the biden administration as being dangerous and it's essentially the truth

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8634.867

Did you ever see the CEO of NPR doing a TED talk saying that sometimes the truth gets in the way of getting things done?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8649.179

It's an infantilization of the public because they're too stupid to handle the truth. They're dumber than you. You are. You're the purveyor of information and you need to give them the information that gets things done. And sometimes you have to lie to them like vaccines are safe and effective.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8675.77

And I. Wonderful idea.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

868.574

Yeah, she's ruthless.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8684.45

It's not like it's number 14, by the way. Number five is a number one. The First Amendment.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8694.26

It's in the way.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8718.349

Seems like he's got MS-13 tattooed on his knuckles.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8726.538

You see the photographs that his wife puts out where she covers his knuckles in every picture? Yes. Yeah. Yes. Hilarious.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8733.864

So I was saying, oh, my God, they deported a Maryland man and a father because that's what I was reading the news. Same. And then you get into it and you're like, oh, wait a minute. Oh, hold on. And then they released the dash cam footage, the police footage of when they arrested him. Yeah. Not dash cam, whatever the cops are wearing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8754.883

It's crazy, but it's just like you can't just go on narratives because these narratives are just designed to make the Trump administration look like monsters.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8783.863

But then there was that gay hairdresser that seems like he just got roped up.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8814.571

Also, he's not even from El Salvador, which is really crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

883.72

Well, do you think that's because they have to to get respect? Like, why do you think that is?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8860.715

Okay, but just violating immigration fraud when you're a gay hairdresser, you don't throw him in a fucking concentration camp.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8875.799

Yeah, that's his knuckles. People don't agree that that's what that means. Oh, dude, I've talked to a guy who's a gang expert.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8886.823

I talked to a guy who's a gang expert who explained it to me. He's like, yeah, this is how it works.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8892.866

Well, there's different versions of MS-13, but that's what it means. Like marijuana, smiley face, Jesus, and then the skull. I'm just saying when I've looked online. How is this the last poster child? Okay, you can look online, but I talked to a gang expert that told me, that was explaining to me. And there's a bunch of different versions of gang tattoos.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8931.932

And to a protection order.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8951.638

I'm asking you that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

8956.08

Because I heard Glenn Greenwald talk about the gay hairdresser and that one seems the most compelling. I agree completely. But there's no logic in this world anymore. It's all kooky. Like whatever gets traction. Maybe it's because he's got kids. Oh, it's a father, a Maryland father. That's what it is. I keep saying, wrongly deported Maryland father. Wrongly why? Tell me what's wrong about it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9009.464

It's kooky.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9010.885

I don't know. Imagine, you know, inheriting this problem. You've had open borders for four years and they've let thousands and thousands of potential criminals in here, if not millions. They've let millions of people. Who knows how many of these people are suspected terrorists? It's not just one. It's not zero. Okay. So what's the number? I don't know. How many of them are gang members?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9035.984

Is it zero? No, it's not zero. So they let in gang members. Okay. How many of them are in the cartel?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9042.908

OK, well, what the fuck do you do? What do you do if you want to clean up this mess that has been in mass for four years? Just flooded open borders, not just open borders, but like busing them in, flying them in, giving them debit cards. Giving them phones.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9068.236

Billions of dollars in health care.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9075.082

He needs to change his name in Mexico and walk across the border.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9090.416

But it's all a political ploy. And the idea that they're not doing it to get votes is crazy because that's what they're doing. There's a reason why a vast majority of them get moved to swing states. They're doing it on purpose. And Elon has been talking about this and it's one of the other reasons why they call him a Nazi.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9146.4

Right, but it's not a conspiracy that they're giving them Social Security numbers.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9151.523

Yeah, because if you... I did not know that. There's a woman who was explaining when she was working for the Social Security office what they would have her do. So they would have them get permanent disability. And the way they get permanent disability is you just have to say you have a back problem. Right. So, if you have a back problem, then you have permanent disability.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

916.471

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9171.714

And if you get permanent disability, then they start labeling them as a client. If you label them as a client, then they get money forever. And so, if then you have people like Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and all these people saying, we need to give these people a road to citizenship. Okay. Well, then you potentially have millions and millions of people.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

918.413

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9191.52

Now, if the Democrats are in charge, they can change the rules and make it so that these people... have a road to citizenship. Then they can vote on elections. So now you've imported millions of people that are going to vote for sure for the people who gave them the money, not for the people who hired Tom Holman to kick everybody out.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

921.995

Sort of. But why am I number one then? Because I don't do it. Because that, see, that's like the counter argument.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9215.732

Well, not only are you not requiring it. In California, you're not allowed to show it. It is illegal to show your identification when you vote. There's only one reason why you would do that. It's because you want fraud. Exactly.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9235.617

You see Kathy Hochul's logic about that? No. A lot of these black kids, they don't even know what a computer is.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9244.382

Dancing around the computer. Running around the computer.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9252.926

By the way, every fucking kid has a computer. They all have phones.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9267.357

It's the most disgustingly racist thing you can say. What about poor white people that live in West Virginia?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9275.103

Dirt poor.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9287.05

Yeah, you get more seats.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9291.011

Exactly. That's why California is losing seats because people are escaping.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9297.774

It's escaping.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9303.076

Well, I'm the grandchild of immigrants. My whole family came from Italy and Ireland.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9333.593

Suicidal empathy. Yeah. Yeah. He's such a genius.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9346.265

And he's, you know, seeing the rise of anti-Semitism in Montreal right now and at a staggering rate. I have to admit that I... He's a guy who escaped Lemedon for the same reasons.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9377.408

It's like the horrors... That you're seeing in Gaza. It's like, OK, you're fighting Hamas. Hamas are monsters. That's right. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9393.594

It gets scary. That's when I. It gets really scary when, you know, you believe that someone's helping the enemy. So they become the enemy. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9438.931

Well, I completely understand how they could look at things the way they are. They're surrounded.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9443.034

They're surrounded by Arab states.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9445.236

And, you know, I mean, if you have been attacked relentlessly since the beginning of, you know, whatever, 1948. If it's in the charter, you know, kill all Jews.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9455.665

That's not good.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9456.906

I don't know, you know.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9458.967

Then you see, like, trans people from Palestine, like, hey.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9461.83

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9464.568

Like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Do you fucking know what they would do to you? Oh, my God.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9473.69

I haven't been there, bud.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9475.33

It's complicated, right? The world is a very complicated thing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9499.939

Yeah, for sure. I just wish that Douglas didn't misrepresent certain people.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9527.712

He definitely wasn't saying that. But what he was really saying that – Apparently, historians also agree with it that Hitler kind of hid his anti-Semitism early on. And that early on during his rise, he would keep it confined, like the really rampant anti-Semitism. He'd keep it confined to these smaller meetings. I didn't know that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9548.943

He's Jewish, isn't he?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9555.366

Hitler was a Jew.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9561.401

That sounds crazy. I remember hearing something like this. Well, it's also that he believed in the Aryan race with blonde hair, blue eye. Hey, bro, that's not you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9571.005

No, he was not Jewish.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9572.825

While rumors and conspiracy theories have circulated suggesting a Jewish grandfather, a Jewish ancestry, these claims are not supported by any historical evidence and are widely dismissed by historians.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9585.17

It's really fascinating because he is the... one of the worst figures in history. Everybody other than really complete psychopaths agree with that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9599.457

One of the worst figures in human history.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9623.539

That's not really the argument, though. It's like no one's really saying that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9639.415

He tries to look at things from everybody's view. He tries – like imagine you're this person. Imagine you're a German citizen. And you've just gotten through World War I and the whole world hates you. Like, imagine this. And then the drug thing is a big part of World War II. It's a giant part of it. Like, the fucking whole army was on meth. That is so crazy. That is so fucking crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9666.759

Really, you should read Blitzed. It's really fascinating. Because they had, like, an over-the-counter meth that you could buy. What was it called?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9676.946

Pervitin. Pervitin. Yes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9679.693

It was nuts.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9683.843

Sorry. Super productive. That's why they have such great engineers. They're like, they're fucking dialed in.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9691.516

You know, this is true. This is you make. Yeah. OK.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9700.122

I take a lot of dark spots here.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9703.645

There's a lot of darkness in human history. A lot of it. A lot of evil. A lot of horrible consequences and a lot of lessons that we really learn but then unlearn. And that's what people are terrified of with this like Hitler apologist perspective. Like don't unlearn this one huge fucking lesson that, you know, look, a guy like Hitler can exist.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9727.464

They can rise to power and become monsters and destroy society. Countless lives. It's impossible to really quantify the amount of damage that guy did. Don't unlearn that. And I get that. I get that. But don't also label someone as someone who didn't learn that when they're talking about it. openly discussing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9748.7

I mean, Daryl talks about what a fucking psychotic drug addled monster Hitler was all the time. Like it's a part of his stuff, but you would have to actually consume his work. And Douglas admittedly never listened to him. He was just taking this narrative, this, this like very reductionist narrative. That's very incorrect.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9769.019

And just saying it over and over again and saying it on Bill Maher to applause breaks. But it's not what he's saying. It's stupid.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9777.307

It's okay.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9780.15

It's not, you know, it's not correct.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9797.17

I apologized to Bobby Kennedy when he came here because I said I believed everything about you before I read your book. I thought you were this kook who doesn't believe in vaccines and he's an anti-science guy and a conspiracy theorist. And then I read The Real Anthony Fauci and I was like,

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9813.309

That book's fucking nuts.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9815.511

And by the way, again, said it before. Say it again. He would be sued if it wasn't true. And it is true. And what he did during the just what he did during the AIDS crisis. And I know that they they gave him a blanket pardon from everything from 2014. Weird. Where did they choose that date? Weird.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9832.268

Where did they choose that date when Obama had decided to get rid of gain-of-function research and this motherfucker was like outsourcing it?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9840.455

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9843.678

No.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9845.459

Well, at least it's in the White House now. And that page is very comprehensive. Go to that page again, because it's kind of hilarious. Is it really? Because Trump's in the middle of it, like walking, like he's getting shit done. Have you seen it?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9858.226

That might be how they tricked him into putting this page out there.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9867.289

I think it happened.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9869.93

Look at this.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9870.91

Stop.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9871.39

This is awesome. I'm here to take care of business. I got a serious look on my face. And why are they like the true origins of COVID-19, like COVID signed it?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9879.774

Why is it a signature?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9889.001

No, scroll, scroll. It's explaining the whole thing. The virus possesses biological characteristics that is not found in nature. in italics. Data shows that all COVID-19 cases stem from a single, in italics, single introduction into humans. This runs contrary to previous pandemics where there were multiple spillover events.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9916.556

Wuhan is home to China's foremost SARS research lab, which has a history of conducting gain of function research, gene altering, and organism supercharging at inadequate biosafety levels. And this is where Fauci, you know, they could get him on perjury because he was, you know, when he was being questioned, when he said famously to Rand Paul, you do not know what you are talking about.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9944.038

Look, there's a photo of him. With his hand.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9954.427

Clearly gained a function of research. Yeah. And then after he communicated with them, they all changed their opinion.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9966.069

Yeah, so you can download the house oversight.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9972.691

Yeah, it's so crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9982.26

Yeah. And I remember- And he was labeled a grandma killer.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9991.309

Yeah. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

9998.732

Took the red pill. I'm glad you took it. It was over, man. I'm glad you're on the right side. Thank you, sir.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

10054.389

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

1024.18

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

10320.748

Really?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

10355.818

Amazing. That's amazing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

10517.475

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

10521.223

That's fun.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

10585.337

Littlefeather.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

10588.039

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

10691.713

I could have been somebody instead of a bum, which is what I am.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

10706.783

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

10728.617

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

10729.658

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

10734.641

Mm-hmm.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

10756.192

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

10790.012

That movie was all about me. Oh, no shit. Yeah, he was a con man. Oh, that's hilarious. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

10914.829

Uh-huh.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

1144.118

Oh, my God.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

1163.529

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

1219.946

Other than that, it's beautiful.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

1384.895

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. There's so many ways to kill somebody effectively.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

1450.211

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

1624.312

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

1817.323

Really?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

1822.505

No, I don't think so.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

2109.136

We'd have so much fun.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

2250.759

Please, please don't arrest me. I'll do anything.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

2373.397

What?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

2406.411

This is even six months old.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

2459.143

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

2545.168

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

2582.314

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

2591.424

Okay.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

2649.59

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

265.124

Do it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

2729.386

Mm-hmm.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

2820.076

Yeah, yeah. Did you ever see those? Yeah, that's bad. They're weird. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

2844.672

I'm happy alone, don't you see? I've convinced you. I don't know how I get so dramatic about it. You better off alone, man. I got it. That's it, I'm going to get a whole bunch of new suits. You know, I've had the same dumb suit for 10 years. You walk in her closet, you can't even breathe. That's it, I'll get a whole bunch of suits. I'll get a chick that likes to hang out.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

2871.87

I'll get a... I'll have the vodka parties. That's modern. Vodka parties, swing it up, ball it up. I'll get a chick... I'll get a chick who likes to drink. Boy, my wife sure used to look good standing up against the sink. She's the lowest, though. I really put her down. No, no, I really miss her. I don't want some sharp chick that can quote Kerouac and walk with poise.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

2897.923

I just want to hear my old lady say, get up and fix the sink. It's still making noise. All alone, all alone, like a nearsighted dog where's the bone?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

3317.453

1987.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

3317.493

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

3318.614

...fighting for the love of his son by arm wrestling a bald guy in Stallone's back. Stallone enters an arm wrestling competition. Now, do you think Stallone wins the competition by any chance? No. Is this the most exciting thing to make a movie about? Arm wrestling? You know, you can bet this bald guy is going to get Stallone over like this at some point. They're going to have the close-ups.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

3350.528

The hand, the eye, the hand, the eye.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

3354.47

Dude, first time. Pretty fucking good. Pretty fucking good. With the pauses. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

3360.953

Timing. Flashback sequence to his son. Poppy, Poppy, over the top.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

3435.301

You know who wrote all the jokes?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

4266.843

Guns.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

4342.351

Horrible.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

4689.348

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

4785.117

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

4926.96

How did they even keep that thing cold?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

5072.101

In the summer.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

517.512

Oh, yeah, David Caruso. Oh, it came down hard on him. It came down hard on him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

5174.697

How many guys pissed in that pit? At least one. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

5251.434

ice pit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

5376.797

No. No? A hot rock?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

5390.712

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

5410.637

Like, can't you do that? Isn't this what I'm here for? Why am I cooking?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

5447.87

Should I flip it now? Yeah. When do I flip it?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

5498.967

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

5503.45

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

556.182

But he could have been the guy. All the redheads are like, one guy gets cocky.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

5581.822

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

561.306

We had our guy. We had our major lead. We had a shot. We had our fucking guy, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

5668.833

Yep.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

6002.864

Yeah. He's like, I'm getting some pussy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

6010.245

Is that all the sloth?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

608.389

Ooh.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

615.447

Oh, no.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

6551.176

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

6558.621

Yeah. What bomb?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

659.061

Just saggy. Just fucking hilarious. His balls are hilarious.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

6812.408

Fuck, I thought I sent it to you. Fuck.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

7052.243

Does the net, do you bounce off the net back into the factory? Look at those nets.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

7245.409

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

7333.787

I finally did it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

7387.008

No.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

766.343

That's how they get you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

775.409

Ziggy Stardust.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

7860.386

No.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

804.554

This is what I've been missing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

8672.521

You want to talk some shit? How about we send a hurricane your way? And you don't even know you can do hurricanes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

8896.743

So we can make it rain.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

8898.945

Yay.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

8994.137

We're not cloud seeding.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

8996.999

It rained in the middle of the desert.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

9226.997

Oh, my God. Oh, that's amazing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

9243.265

Yeah, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

9301.928

I don't know.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

9372.24

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

9378.243

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

9542.703

I know what you're saying, though.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

958.07

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

9674.83

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

9696.973

Wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2196 - Greg Fitzsimmons

9742.764

When do they run out of food? When do they run out of food?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2235 - Mike Rowe

3.993

Check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2235 - Mike Rowe

4290.003

Oh!

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2235 - Mike Rowe

9673.084

Whoa, boy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2206 - Chamath Palihapitiya

2028.254

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2206 - Chamath Palihapitiya

2371.018

Mm-hmm.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2206 - Chamath Palihapitiya

283.057

That kind of thing?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2206 - Chamath Palihapitiya

450.612

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2206 - Chamath Palihapitiya

4877.937

Oh, my God.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2206 - Chamath Palihapitiya

7790.21

Wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2206 - Chamath Palihapitiya

8506.15

Totally.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2206 - Chamath Palihapitiya

8659.056

Yes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2206 - Chamath Palihapitiya

9637.475

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2192 - Raanan Hershberg

1180.148

Of course.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2192 - Raanan Hershberg

306.424

It is.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2192 - Raanan Hershberg

3077.774

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2192 - Raanan Hershberg

9692.607

Oh, I remember this. Yes. Yeah. I mean, reading this.

The Joe Rogan Experience

JRE MMA Show #166 with Ilia Topuria

3034.904

Right, right, right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

JRE MMA Show #166 with Ilia Topuria

3341.357

The promoter's life is a hard life.

The Joe Rogan Experience

JRE MMA Show #166 with Ilia Topuria

3847.681

I don't know.

The Joe Rogan Experience

JRE MMA Show #166 with Ilia Topuria

3853.887

High I'm not worried about.

The Joe Rogan Experience

JRE MMA Show #166 with Ilia Topuria

4060.174

Really?

The Joe Rogan Experience

JRE MMA Show #166 with Ilia Topuria

4724.288

To him. Okay. Okay. They're like, no way.

The Joe Rogan Experience

JRE MMA Show #166 with Ilia Topuria

4728.032

Yeah. Look, he should be fighting.

The Joe Rogan Experience

JRE MMA Show #166 with Ilia Topuria

4971.849

Really?

The Joe Rogan Experience

JRE MMA Show #166 with Ilia Topuria

6417.886

That's such a cold-blooded thing to say.

The Joe Rogan Experience

JRE MMA Show #166 with Ilia Topuria

7117.567

Yeah. And then there's the judging.

The Joe Rogan Experience

JRE MMA Show #166 with Ilia Topuria

7575.827

In the beginning.

The Joe Rogan Experience

JRE MMA Show #166 with Ilia Topuria

7972.635

And you see the guys, he's got a top, he's top.

The Joe Rogan Experience

JRE MMA Show #166 with Ilia Topuria

8204.585

I recommend you to not.

The Joe Rogan Experience

JRE MMA Show #166 with Ilia Topuria

8528.977

Look at my watch. Look at my diamonds. Look at this. Look at my house. Look at this. Look at these girls. Don't you wish you were me?

The Joe Rogan Experience

JRE MMA Show #166 with Ilia Topuria

8601.99

They don't know what the fuck to do.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2284 - Ian Carroll

1163.903

Yes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2284 - Ian Carroll

2249.243

Uh-huh.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2284 - Ian Carroll

2630.418

Yeah, a concierge said they can... They could do something.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2284 - Ian Carroll

3717.456

So this is from a New York Magazine interview.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2284 - Ian Carroll

415.707

Dude, it's so good. I love him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2284 - Ian Carroll

4896.661

It's definitely a political thing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2284 - Ian Carroll

4901.124

Well, this says that they had them, I guess, in records, and then when they sent court notices out, they just don't come to their court date, so they consider them missing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2284 - Ian Carroll

4915.973

Well, that part I don't know. That's what they're saying.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2284 - Ian Carroll

4918.855

Well, I'm just... All right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2284 - Ian Carroll

4988.884

I mean.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2284 - Ian Carroll

5505.645

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2284 - Ian Carroll

5961.568

Yes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2284 - Ian Carroll

6388.305

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2284 - Ian Carroll

6665.436

Mm-hmm.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2284 - Ian Carroll

7278.106

I've got a fun one. Fun tie for two things you guys were just talking about. Oh, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2284 - Ian Carroll

7283.487

This is the airline, right? This is the airline used. Came out the same day that they filed for bankruptcy after being in Columbus, Ohio, being used by Leslie Wexner's limited company.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2284 - Ian Carroll

7337.687

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10104.161

And your break was two laps.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10136.249

He thought you were like a spy?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10185.861

So he was just concerned that you were sandbagging or trying to get information.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10197.45

Um, Rocha, all those guys down there.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10202.794

That's wild. And then, so you're all in.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10233.311

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10236.593

When you get your black belt, you get a black belt from Hickson. It's like there's very few black belts that hold that kind of weight.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10242.097

There's like Henzo Hickson. Yeah. Jean-Jacques Machado. There's a few of those like old school legendary belts.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10251.223

Megaton Diaz. It's like a few of those legendary old school belts, you know?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10257.587

Hegan. Yeah. Hegan. Yeah. Yeah. I love Hegan. I know. I love it. I actually was Higgins' corner guy when he was in Abu Dhabi in 2003. You were? Yelling his time out. Yeah, because I was there with Eddie Bravo.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10271.912

We all trained at the Machados, so I know Higgins. And Higgins was like, my friend, do the time for me. And so, like, he was, like, he was kind of out of shape, but he's still fucking people up. But he wanted to know, like, tell me when there's, like, a minute to go so I can really fucking hit the gas. Like, I want to coast for a little bit and then decide when to go.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10449.497

That's the best attitude for learning.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10458.259

I think it's good for you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10465.92

Yeah, I think that's why people get old. It's one of the reasons other than your body failing is your mind gets old. You're not stimulating it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1047.102

Did you ever see, there's one fight that's like one of the most important fights in kickboxing where Rick Rufus, who is like the king of American style kickboxing, like above the waist kickboxing, fought this Thai guy. I forget how, I can't pronounce the guy's name correctly, so I don't want to butcher it. And Rick Rufus was fucking him up in the beginning. He dropped him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10474.022

John, this is a fucking awesome conversation.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10476.644

I really appreciate it. I had a great time.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10479.487

And I can't wait to read your book.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10484.792

Yes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10494.2

You can come to the club anytime you want.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10515.093

What did he look like?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10524.542

Oh, it was one of the bucket pulls?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10541.161

Why?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10552.127

Next level right there. Well, listen, brother, anytime you want to come to the club, more than welcome. Thank you very much for being here.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10559.85

I really enjoyed it. Thanks for all the swag. Thanks for letting me hold the evil hat.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10565.634

If people want to find you online, sheriffofbagdad.com.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10577.561

And someone, whoever the publisher is, will hop on it. Yeah, hit me up. I'm sure that book's insane. All right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

10585.946

Appreciate you. All right. Bye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

106.639

And in your line of work, that comes in very handy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1066.458

He had him in real trouble. Rick Rufus was really good. But this dude just kept chopping at the legs, chopping at the legs. And by the end of the fight, Rick's in a heap on the ground. And his own brother, Duke Rufus, who became a world Muay Thai champion himself later and became one of the best trainers in MMA. So this is the fight. What happened? I'll show you. Oh, that's his name?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1087.478

Good luck saying that one. But... Oh, this is not... This is a different... This is like a compilation of a bunch of different people fighting. That's not... This is it. The fight that changed kickboxing. So this fight... Well, this isn't it. This is a bunch of other shit. Go into the fight itself. That's fucking Chuck Norris.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1112.474

Chuck was legit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1114.435

So this is the fight. So in the beginning, Rick Rufus, who's like this above the weight kicks, he drops him with the left hand. Rick was really fucking good, man. He was really good. But they just didn't know anything about the leg kicks. And after the fight, like his brother Duke was like, well, I don't think there's any skill involved in kicking the legs.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1131.128

And he was saying that, look, he drops him again. So he dropped him two times. Looked like Rick is fucking him up. But this Thai guy, he's probably had 200 fights.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1139.053

And he just keeps kicking at the legs. Yeah. And after a while, Rick's legs are just dead. I mean, the tie guy's getting lit up. But Rick became an unbelievable leg kicker himself after this. But no one knew. They just didn't know. So as the fight goes on, and this is like a huge challenge match. You see, look, he drops him with this leg kick. After a while, Rick just can't move anymore.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1166.271

And this dude.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1169.231

No, his legs are dead right now. And he's just getting, every time this tie is kicking him, he can barely walk. And at the end of the fight, he winds up in a heap. Because he just doesn't know. He doesn't know yet. And he's getting dumped too. Look at these fucking low kicks. Devastating low kicks. And at the end of the fight, he's just in a heap on the ground.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1192.669

But the thing is, Rick was really fucking good back in the day. That didn't show the end of the fight. But at the end of the fight, he brutalized him with just low kicks. The Thais had figured something out that nobody had figured out. And it's kind of shocking. that this one area of the world, like this one small island, that they figured it out.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

12.034

See you, brother. Yeah, how are you, man? Great, great. It was nice to meet you at F1, and I really loved your episode of Sean Ryan. I fucking love that dude.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1212.585

It's kind of crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1214.406

Yeah, I love it, too. And then Brazilian jiu-jitsu, right? Yeah, yeah. Until Maeda comes to Brazil in the 1930s or some shit. Whenever that was. Whenever that was. And then the Brazilians are like, huh, I think we can fix this. And they start like, you know, because Elio was a small guy and Helio is like going, well, what about if we just did it this way?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1235.38

We fought with leverage and just instead of using strength, we use technique and changed everything.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1241.342

Changed martial arts forever.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1273.263

Yeah, it's one of the most effective things you could do. You take away someone's base.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1278.346

And, you know, that's the crazy thing about MMA is now we're learning that kicking in the calf is actually even more effective than kicking in the thigh.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1286.852

Because there's no meat there. Yeah, it fucking hurts.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1292.475

It doesn't work anymore. Your leg's useless. It's crazy. And we've figured that out over the last five or six years, which is really nuts. Like Michael Bisping, who was a world champion, told me he went his whole career without ever getting kicked in the calf. Wow. And that was like four or five years ago he was a world champion and went his entire career without getting kicked in the calf. Nuts.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1315.18

It's nuts. It's like it's constantly changing and evolving. People find something that works and they're like, oh, what about this?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1323.331

Well, martial arts have evolved more in the last 30 years than they have in the last 30,000 years.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1328.836

That's a fact.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1330.037

That's a fact. And that's kind of shocking. You think about how long people have been fighting.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1380.087

Do you know who did it?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

156.529

No, it's how they're raised.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1593.679

Do you know what was in it?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1596.48

It was just something. It wasn't necessarily roofing all. It was probably something.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

165.18

Well, that's the thing. You can convince kids of almost anything. You can convince them that it's their fault. You can convince them that they're bad kids, and then they feel bad for the rest of their fucking life. They feel like a piece of shit. There's a lot of people out there that didn't do anything wrong.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1659.407

So she's like, did anybody get tested to find out what it is?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1721.184

And so did the security know who roofied you?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1763.61

It happened to a buddy of mine recently. Oh, yeah? Yeah. He met this girl, and they go back to his place, and then he wakes up the next day, and he's robbed. Stole his Rolex, stole $25,000 in cash from him, but he got tested. And he had, I think it was Xanax. She piled a bunch of Xanax into his drink and he was just out. Didn't know what the fuck happened. Came to the club afterwards.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

178.675

They're just raised by shitheads, and for their whole life, they feel like garbage, and they don't know why.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1786.677

He was like all fucked up. Came to the comedy club. He's a comedian. Hans Kim. Shout out to Hans. Hilarious guy. So he's like something happened. I don't know what happened. We're like, hey, man, go to fucking go get tested right now while it's still in your system. So he goes and gets his hair tested, and they found that there was roofies in him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1808.349

Yeah, you could be tested. Oh, shit. But there's like a time period. If you test hair, it'll last a little longer. And I think he waited a day so they had to test hair. But within a certain time period, they could test you and find out what it is. And they said, did you take any Xanax? He's like, no. They're like, you have a lot of Xanax in your system.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1825.457

And apparently that's one of the things that they give people to rob them. Damn.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

183.881

It's so hard to snap out of that, too. And it takes something for you to do that makes you feel valuable and worthwhile. Like you have to kind of like relearn who you are as a person.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1830.359

I'm sure. It's got to. Fuck. If you're going to drug me- Anything that's going to whack you out.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1842.944

What is the non-hangover shit?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1848.507

I don't think it exists. Damn it, Joe. I think it's prescription stuff or GHB. I know a lot of people give people GHB. I've heard of that. That just gets you like, you don't know what the fuck's going on. I've heard of that. I've heard of people getting roofied that way. If I was a woman, I'd be fucking terrified to accept a drink from anybody. Fuck.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1864.418

I've talked to so many ladies that have had their alcohol drugged by someone. Women go to bars, they keep their fucking hand over their drink all the time, even when they're turning around and looking away because they just never know. Some guy just dropped something in there real quick. Next thing you know, you're going home with them. You don't even know where you are.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1925.946

There's some fucking non-human people out there.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

195.091

And some people never do.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

196.832

And then they, you know, find meth or heroin or something that takes the edge away. Yeah. They can just exist.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1964.126

And if you've never experienced it, you can walk around delusional and think, oh, come on. It's real.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1987.739

You mean in the area of Gettysburg? Yeah, on the battlefields. My stepfather felt the same thing. And he's not woo-woo at all. He's like a real straight edge guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

1997.384

And he said it felt so creepy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

2009.446

It's crazy that you said that about Gettysburg. Because my stepdad's never said anything like that before. And he said just the feeling, it was so sad and creepy. And you just wanted to get out of there immediately.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

2022.369

Places have memory. I really believe that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

2030.916

Energy don't go away, right? Well, I think you just don't see it and you can't measure it. So you assume it's not there. But I think that's one of the reasons why when someone gets murdered in a house, they have to tell you about it. Right? They have to. Because people, they know. There was JonBenet Ramsey's house. When I lived in Boulder, I lived in Boulder for a while.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

2049.563

We were looking at houses to buy. And there was this one house that was really cheap for the house. I was like, this is a nice fucking house. They had changed the name of the street so they could try to sell this house. Because everybody knew that it was the house that JonBenet Ramsey had been killed in. They couldn't fucking sell the house. Yeah, fuck that house.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

2067.449

We were looking at the house on Zillow, and we're like, oh, that's a beautiful house. Maybe we should go check out this house. And then we found out. We're like, oh, that's why they can't sell it. Like, oh, man. Like, they changed the name of the street to try to sell this house. It's fucked up. They should have just bulldozed it. They should have bulldozed it and then...

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

2084.868

What do you do about the ground? It's still there. Would you want to live in a place where they bulldoze the house where a little girl would get killed?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

2094.843

I don't want to live there. No, no one wants to live there. I don't even know what it is now. I mean, I don't know if anybody ever bought it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

2109.536

Yeah. There's something there's something to that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

2120.723

You went to their palace?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

215.387

Yeah, I think fighting is the same way. A lot of those guys, the only time they ever feel normal is when they're in a gym with a bunch of other savages. It's like guys who want to do that for a living, generally something fucking terribly wrong happened when you were young that put this anger, this monster inside of you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

2181.612

I have read so many horrible stories about those guys. They would find a woman who was getting married and they would rape her and then feed her to their dogs.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

2249.269

Those guys were such fucking monsters. It's just so crazy that that story repeats itself over and over again. Like the sons of kings that grow up that way are always just super fucking evil because they have unchecked power from the time they're a child.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

23.323

I'm so glad there's guys like him doing this, that there's more people like him that are finding new ways to... Media is so wide open now, and you don't have to get hired by a television station anymore. You can just start your own shit, and Sean shows.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

2310.767

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

2311.167

And I'm like, I don't know. Like, fuck, what the fuck? Well, I bet they don't. I bet the babies that don't know go off the cliff and those genes never propagate. Again. Yeah. Yeah. That's the most harsh form of natural selection. Darwinism right there. The most harsh form of it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

2327.873

Yeah. Yeah. No fucking. I mean, kids that grow up outside. Lock key kids. Like when I was a kid. Yeah. You just left out of the house. Bye. Have fun. And you figure out who's the child molester. Yeah. You figure out who's a creep. What's dangerous. Don't go near the train tracks. Can't hear the train until it's too late.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

2346.505

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

2347.846

Exactly. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

2350.608

You learn about danger.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

238.516

Yeah. Jiu-jitsu is meditation, man. Because if you are doing jiu-jitsu, you can't be thinking about anything else. So it cleans your mind up. You know, we were talking about bow hunting. I think that's the same thing. I think in a different way. It's just when you're doing that, it's so difficult. You can't think about anything else.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

2390.319

You know, it's fucked up that I don't want that to happen to my kids. I mean, my life was nothing like your life, but I was definitely let loose in the world and not really given any guidance. Kind of let loose with no guidance. But that's how you make a person like you. A person like you doesn't come from a home...

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

2410.973

that has, like, you know, you're coddled, you're taken care of, you're always protected. Like, the only way you make, like, a legit beast of a man is that that man has to go through a lot of shit through their life, and then they come out on the other end hard.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

2425.681

It's the only way.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

2427.222

You don't... You know, I've never met, like, a world champion fighter that came from, like, the happiest of childhoods.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

2433.465

It just doesn't exist.

The Joe Rogan Experience

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Yeah. For sure. Well, those are the world champions. I mean, that's Mike Tyson, right? Yeah. He was 13 years old, no family. Yeah. Gets adopted by a guy who's a psychologist who's a hypnotist and is a great boxing coach and teaches him to become this elite fighter.

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And I kind of think that you don't become that guy unless you're dealing with all sorts of unspeakable tragedy and horrors when you're a child. Right.

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You wouldn't have that monster inside of you. That monster has to grow because it needs to be there.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, and those guys, I bet if you dig into their childhood, their dad was probably a little abusive.

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Yeah, something. There's another thing, older brothers. It's like you want to find the young brother. The young brother's the beast. I'm the little brother. Yeah, that's it. The young brother gets beat up by the older brother and just constantly in battle his whole life. Like so many fighters, the best fighters have like Chris Weidman's got a great story like that.

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You're also accustomed to being in battle all the time with your brother.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. And Horian.

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Hickson is – he's such a unique guy because he was like the first guy that figured out like that physical strength, yoga, all the gymnastic natural stuff that he did, flexibility. Breathing. Yeah. He was like a physical specimen on top of being super technical. Yeah. So he had like both things.

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Yeah, he had that samurai mindset.

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Wow.

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I went over his house once in like 2000 and him and his son and we were watching Coliseum. So Coliseum was like the last time he fought when he fought Funaki. And we were watching all the different fights. He had a tape of it and we were watching it. And he was breaking down all the things that all these guys were doing wrong. It was such a fascinating education.

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He was like, there's too much space. You start here, there's too much space. And he goes, he had this philosophy. Good accent, by the way. He goes, we start at a neutral point. We start at a neutral point. If I get to one, I'm not going back to zero. I'm going one to two to three to checkmate. He goes, I'm not going backwards. He goes, these guys, they lose position.

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They go for here, go for there, all this extra space. And he was like breaking it down while we were watching the fights. It was such an education. Love that. It was fucking amazing. It was amazing.

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Oh, man. Like one of the great legends of martial arts. You know, if you like go into the history of martial arts, Hickson Gracie will go down as, you know, there's a Mount Rushmore of martial arts legends. Him and Hoyce are right up there. Yeah, I agree with that. And Hoyce will tell you like Hickson, he goes, my brother was a hundred times better than me.

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There was a bunch of different thoughts on it, you know, hoist jokes around. He goes, look how beautiful I am. That's why they wanted me. But it was also because Hickson was very physically dominant. And the idea was like, let's have this guy that doesn't look physically impressive to show jiu-jitsu, to show the power of jiu-jitsu. But if that doesn't work... Then we bring in Hickson.

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But obviously Hoist beat everybody. And then Hickson went over to do Japan Valley Tudor in like 94, I think it was.

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Oh, the great, the golden era of martial arts. This is when everybody was learning.

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Like, holy shit, there's so much out there.

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And then Fedor Emelianenko comes on the scene. He's just like... Fedor is my favorite. One of the all-time greats. He's another one. I mean, if there's the greatest heavyweight of all time, he's got to be in the conversation.

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In his prime, he was a monster.

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And so stoic. His expression never changed. He gets head kicked. He gets suplexed. Nothing.

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Just didn't register. He was just a machine.

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Well, his brother was bigger and taller and was a nasty striker, man. His brother was a vicious striker.

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Oh, my God. He was fucking good, man. But that was the days where everyone was just kind of figuring out what worked and what didn't work.

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I love it. It was also a time where everybody was juicy. Yeah. The whole organization was like, I had a friend who was going to fight over there and he was 170 pounds. And they said, no, we want you to fight at 185. Go do steroids. Like, go do steroids. And he's like, what the fuck? He's like, they're telling us to do steroids.

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When Ensign was on the podcast, he told me in the contract, it said like in capital letters, we do not test for steroids. Yeah. They're like, go have fun.

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Everybody was juicy back then. Because it was the wild days. It was like the Wild West. They just wanted the best, most exciting fights possible.

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There's a real argument for that.

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What do you want the sport to suck? Like baseball. That was the thing when they were doing like Mark McGuire and all that shit and Sammy Sosa. Why are you testing these guys? It's the most exciting thing is to hit a home run. These guys are doing something that makes them better at hitting home runs. Everybody should do that thing. Whatever the fuck that is.

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Yeah, but there was this thing back then that it was cheating. But what it really is is science. Like, they figure out there's a way where you recover more, you get stronger, you get faster. Like, hey, do that, guys. And by the way, everybody else is doing it, too. They're just, like, hiding it in some sort of a weird way. You know, they're just masking it and taking weird stuff.

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And there was, you know, that Balco scandal where they're all taking this stuff called the clear stuff.

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It's amazing that someone can do that.

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I had that guy, Victor Conte, on the podcast who created the Clear. He's a scientist. And what he did is he—Balco Labs, they figured out that when they're testing, they're testing for very specific metabolites. So they took steroids, and then they changed it slightly so that it didn't show up in the test. And they're giving them the stuff, and they would all pass Clear.

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And they were all fucking, just monsters like Barry Bonds. He was a monster. I met Barry Bonds in 1994. I was on this television show called Hardball. And Barry Bonds was, you know, he was still a major league player, a big time player.

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I remember when I was first starting jiu-jitsu, I was like 30 years old, and I thought I was a badass. I had kickboxed. I had won a bunch of taekwondo tournaments. I thought I knew how to fight. And I remember one day when I was a white belt, this purple belt just raped me. I mean, he was my size. This was what drove me crazy. He wasn't bigger than me. And he just destroyed me. Just destroyed.

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But he was a regular guy. Like, he looked like a regular athlete. And then he started getting juicy. And then years later, he gained like 60 pounds. It was just fucking gigantic and smashing home runs. That would be good. You should keep doing that, whatever you're doing.

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You know, the Enhance Games doing that. They're developing this whole protocol right now, and the Enhance Games is going to let people do whatever the fuck they want that works. And their idea is, we are going to develop the best athletes in every discipline, and then we're going to give them a lot of money. And we're going to, like, fuck the Olympics. The Olympics is a giant scam.

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Because the Olympics, the athletes don't make any money. And NBC and all these broadcast networks and the IOC, they're making billions of dollars off the backs of these athletes' hard work. And no one is going to see them. They're going to see the athletes. Right. I mean, the athletes aren't even compensated. It's a crazy scam. Right.

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It really is, because it's not like if no one made any money, including the networks, including the IOC, great, great. But that's not the case. Someone's making a fucking shit ton of money, but it's not the people that are putting in the hard work. It's the people that are pointing cameras at them. It's the dumbest fucking thing of all time.

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So the enhanced games is like, let's throw out the drug testing, let's encourage people to do whatever the fuck that works, and let's give them a lot of money. So whoever wins, whatever, give them a million dollars. And then you'll get the elite athletes will be like, well, why am I wasting my time competing for free?

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Maybe I blow out an ACL or herniate a disc and my career's over and I don't have shit to show for it. Or... I can do steroids and then win and have money for the rest of my life.

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Of course.

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Let's go. If they told the NFL, let's just say everybody get juicy.

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The way I understand it, they let them know when testing is happening.

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Right.

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But there's this weird thing about protecting the athlete's health. Like, hey, fuckface, they're playing football. If you really cared about their health, you would tell them don't play football.

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There's no way you care about their health. There's no fucking way. It just doesn't make any sense.

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Yes, everything gets blown out. How about vaccines? How about you making them get vaccinated and they have fucking heart attacks on the field? Does that make any sense? None. You don't care about their health. You're full of shit. Those guys didn't have to worry for a second about COVID. They're elite athletes of the highest order. Do you really think that's something that is...

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It literally only kills like 0.03% of the people who get it, and those people or most of them have comorbidities. You really think elite athletes of the highest order had to worry about that? Of course they didn't. It's all bullshit. You don't care about them. Let them get juicy.

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Just did whatever he wanted. Triangled me. Armbarred me. Choked me. And I remember walking out of there going... I can't, first of all, what a like shift of like who you are in the world, knowing that someone can just do that to you. Not a bigger guy, like someone your size can just, you're helpless. And then I remember thinking, I got to get good at this.

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That's why I like hockey.

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Hockey's the last sport that allows fistfights normally in the middle of a sport. It's the only sport that allows the occasional fistfight, which is kind of crazy.

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It's just wild that that's the only sport where fist fighting is allowed. Yeah.

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It's kind of crazy because it's grandfathered in.

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Because it's basically bare knuckle boxing in the middle of a sport.

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Which is real weird.

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Like, I'm a parent. You can't fool me. Well, anybody can see. It's the dumbest thing. Like, a hand hits their face.

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They fall down, and they're fucking holding their side. They're holding their chest. It's so dumb. But it's also one of the reasons why it's not really accepted in America. Yeah, I agree. Because you watch that flopping. We're like, come on. Get up. This is so crazy.

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Especially when people watch football. You're watching guys get fucking waylaid.

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yeah 300 pounds super athlete they get up and shake it off yeah and then they're right back on the field yeah the guy's like adjust his helmet a little bit you know what i mean he takes his mouthpiece out you go all right and go move on i just started watching football literally this last year and uh you know when i see guys collide i i've had so many injuries knee surgeries and and jiu jitsu injuries i see guys get hit i just like

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I fucking hold my knees. I hold my back. I'm like, oh. It's the most brutal shit of all time. A guy who's 290 pounds is running full blast and colliding with you with 100% of his strength.

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Like that, having that as a skill, that's like one of the greatest things you could ever have. Like, cause that's what martial arts was supposed to be when we were kids. Like that the smaller person could beat the larger person just with technique. Correct. Until Hoist Gracie came along, you never really saw that. The bigger guys always won.

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So you basically teach them wrestling.

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Why don't they teach them that? That would seem to be, like, a good skill.

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We're just understanding leverage and how to manipulate a body.

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Right. Well, that's the argument against pads in football is that these guys, the only reason why they can play the way they are and collide with each other full blast is because they have helmets and pads on, which is totally true.

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come on it would be a wild game if you had american football and no pads i mean that's what they used to do way back they had those little leather yeah like you couldn't pay me to wear one of those get the fuck out of here with that i wonder how many guys died playing that uh imagine how many concussions how many head-to-head collisions oh running full blast

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And then, you know, if you're Samoan, you're like some big giant dude. You're going to go head to head with guys because you know you're going to win it.

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So you're just fucking headbutting everybody.

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And then Hoist Gracie, all of a sudden, he's killing people from his back. And we're like, what is going on?

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Jesus.

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Oh, yeah. One on one is definitely you can control a lot more of what's going on than a bunch of dudes.

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Colliding into each other.

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It is awesome. It's weird how it never took off in America. It's kind of strange, you know, because we love violence. You would imagine that rugby would be something that we would have adopted.

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That's the big thing about soccer. And the game never stops. It's tough to sell commercials because you can't stop the game.

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Whereas football, you have a fucking half time, bro. You got a whole half hour.

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All of a sudden, he's like... He's strangling some guy with his legs.

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Whereas soccer, those motherfuckers are running the entire time.

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You have to be in insane shape to play soccer. The cardio is just nuts. You're basically sprinting for the entire game. I never played soccer, but I don't think I would enjoy it. Well, we went to watch. They have a professional league here in Austin, and these dudes have these fucking quarter horse legs.

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They have thin upper bodies and these fucking gigantic legs because they're just constantly doing plyometrics. They're just constantly sprinting and going side to side and left and right and fucking crazy cardio. But it's never going to sell in America if you can't have commercials.

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Yeah, I mean, that makes sense. Maybe they just changed the rules a little bit.

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You know? Give us a little break every seven minutes.

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Oh, yeah.

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Well, that's the problem with MMA, too, right? You can't have a no-time-limit fight because—

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Also, dudes would kind of fight to the death. Like if you get the best of the best today where they're so evenly matched and they're brawling for an hour.

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And then it would probably end your career. Like at the end of it, you might not ever be the same again.

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Right, because there's a lot of guys, like there's a fight, and you could point to that fight and say he was never the same. Tony Ferguson, Justin Gaethje, a lot of people point to that fight. Justin Gaethje battered Tony Ferguson so bad. He was undefeated up until that point, or maybe he lost a couple of times, but he was the boogeyman. Tony Ferguson was the scariest dude in the sport.

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And then one bad beating, and he was kind of never the same again. Because one bad beating just changes everything.

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You just never really recover.

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There's a little bit of that, but there's also a bad beating to the brain. He got hit so many times in his head. A bad beating to the brain after a certain... I mean... No matter who you are, if you're sparring and if you're fighting, you're getting hit in the head, period.

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And so over the course of your career, you're already accumulating a certain amount of abuse, and there's one fight that could break the camel's back. Like in boxing, I always point to Meldrick Taylor, Julio Cesar Chavez. Like, Meldrick Taylor was the fucking man, won the gold medal in the Olympics, and Chavez just methodically broke him down and then stopped him in the last round of their fight.

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Like, literally two seconds to go, Richard Steele stops the fight. And from then on, he was never the same. It was just he took so much of a beating in that fight that he was never the same again.

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Is there anything like you as a leader, when you see a guy who's maybe crossed over in that way, is there anything that you would do to try to bring him back or is there nothing that can be done?

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#2238 - John McPhee

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Right. I guess a confidence thing or just being terrified. Like new fear being introduced. A lot of guys think they're indestructible until they're not. And then all of a sudden now this is a new factor.

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Get right back on the horse.

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Yeah.

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#2238 - John McPhee

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You see that in fights, too. Young, undefeated guys who fight a world champion who's in their 30s. And that guy breaks them down. And then you see like they don't know what to do when things are going sideways.

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And then mentally they fall apart.

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#2238 - John McPhee

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But how did you develop that mentality just over time?

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fucking great yeah he's great Sean's I love him as a person yeah I love him too he's great he's an awesome dude and I loved you on that show but god damn man that show was crazy like your childhood was so nuts dude hearing about you living in a brothel when you were 12 years old yeah me and my brother Fuck, dude. Your whole story was so nuts, man.

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#2238 - John McPhee

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How do you breach an airplane? What's a successful protocol for breaching an airplane?

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#2238 - John McPhee

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What do you mean?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

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Okay, let's go with mechanical.

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#2238 - John McPhee

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So but once you breach it, though, you're in a tube. You're in a tube. And everybody knows where the door is.

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#2238 - John McPhee

4258.502

It's a very vulnerable position. Yes. So what's the protocol for breaching a door when you're in a tube like that?

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#2238 - John McPhee

4294.595

Right. So you plan it out. You know where you're going to be. Yeah. And then you're still dealing with the chaos of you're in a tube and there's only one way in. Yeah. And things are coming at you no matter what. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So there's no clean way to do that.

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#2238 - John McPhee

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What a crazy fucking task.

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#2238 - John McPhee

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And it's consistent training over and over and over and over and over. Do you think that this is what's missing in the police force?

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#2238 - John McPhee

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Yeah, it's a weird feeling.

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#2238 - John McPhee

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Right, you would have SWAT teams through the whole thing. They'd all be SWAT.

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#2238 - John McPhee

4512.775

Right, right. Yeah, I'm always shocked when I see fat cops. Like really fat cops. And I was like, how? Your whole life is your body. Like your whole life is you have to be able to physically defend yourself. You have weapons. You have, you know, the law and the uniform and bulletproof vest and all. But your physical body is almost useless.

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#2238 - John McPhee

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I was at a football game the other day, and there's this obese cop, enormous belly. I was like, this is disgusting. It's ridiculous. You've let yourself get to this point where I know you can't even run. You can't last 30 seconds. All someone has to do is grab ahold of your arm that you would use to take your gun and control that arm, get you to the ground, and you're fucked.

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Especially a fit one who's trained.

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#2238 - John McPhee

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That's what drives me crazy about this whole defund the police horse shit. Like, are you fucking crazy? You should be funding them more.

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#2238 - John McPhee

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Yeah, it's real.

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#2238 - John McPhee

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Yeah, to pretend it's not. Well, that just means you haven't experienced it.

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#2238 - John McPhee

4659.724

Yeah.

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#2238 - John McPhee

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Yeah, it's just bizarre that we expect these people to encounter danger and evil all day long, their whole lives, like 25, 30 years. I know. And, you know, you don't train them properly. You don't fund them properly. And then they get disrespected by the public.

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Yeah. Well, I think wrestling is kind of... There's, like, so many elite wrestlers now that... that have learned submissions, and that extra skill of being able to throw bodies around is another level. I agree. Because wrestlers can learn jiu-jitsu pretty easy. An elite wrestler, you take a guy like a Bo Nickel or a Daniel Cormier, teach them jiu-jitsu. Hamza Chemaev's the best example of that.

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#2238 - John McPhee

4700.489

She was all about defund the police.

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#2238 - John McPhee

4705.966

It's like 2019, 2020. It's fucking crazy. It's a crazy thing to say. It really is a crazy thing to say.

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#2238 - John McPhee

4723.223

That's real.

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#2238 - John McPhee

4724.183

Yeah. What do you think about this idea of using special forces guys to fight the cartels?

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#2238 - John McPhee

4782.151

The government's so compromised, the cartel's going to get the word out before.

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#2238 - John McPhee

4797.48

No matter what you think about the Israelis, what's going on in Gaza, that pager shit was wild.

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#2238 - John McPhee

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No, I've been saying that forever. We should have our own cell phones. Fuck. And the fact that we're buying so much shit from China, especially after they banned Huawei because they know that Huawei stuff was compromised and they're having third party input and be able to spy on people. It's fucking crazy.

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#2238 - John McPhee

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Yeah. It's a very strange thing what's happening in this country where China is allowed to buy land that's near military bases. They supply cell phone towers. They put all these different, they sell us all this different shit. And we don't really know. I mean, I don't know how many experts are investigating these fucking cell phone towers.

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#2238 - John McPhee

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Mike Baker was on here and he was telling me about how around military bases like China has installed their equipment in all these military bases. Like at Formula One, where we were, my buddy owns the track and they found these Chinese boxes they had attached to the Wi-Fi. So they were just scooping up everybody's data. They called in Homeland Security to have them remove it and investigate it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

4896.444

They're so sophisticated in how they've infiltrated. It's fucking crazy. And we just allow it to happen. It's very strange because you can't buy shit in China. If you think you're an American company, you're going to go over to China and operate with autonomy. You're out of your fucking mind. You can't buy shit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

4921.483

And they certainly never let America buy farmland right next to their military bases. They'd be like, fuck you. We're like, sure, we'll sell it to you. Are you going to pay more? Oh, boy. We'll take your money. It's weird.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

493.489

You teach a guy like that submissions, he already knows how to ragdoll people. So he has this ability to take everybody down, and then on top of that, he's going to break your neck. It's like that extra—I think wrestling is like the foundation. That's the one thing, because then you can dictate whether to fight— Thank you for having me.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

5038.117

You know, do you know Evan, Evan Hafer?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

5040.637

Yeah, Evan was, we were in elk camp and he was explaining some of the shit that he saw when he went from Iraq to Afghanistan. He's like, Afghanistan is so fucked that you can't even comprehend it until you're there. He goes, once you're there and you see it and you understand it, you become so cynical. You're almost like, this culture is like unfixable.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

5065.063

And he's like, most people just don't know that a place like that exists. That's so just down to its core. So fucked. And we was talking about how these guys have these boys that they have as their harem.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

5099.096

He was saying these guys have harems and they would parade them down the street to show they have the most boys.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

5174.488

What's a jingly truck?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

533.235

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The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

5474.957

So you were, like, one of the first guys to do these singleton missions.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

5479.999

So when they set you off to do something like that, like, what's the protocol? Like, how do they even...

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

552.368

And then once you learn submissions, which is pretty easy for a wrestler to learn. It's pretty similar. It's the same sport.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

564.759

D'Arce jokes. All these different things come from similar positions. But then stand-up. You know, you have to have stand-up today. You have to. I think, you know, I've been talking about this a lot. I don't think...

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

5695.395

So what were they telling you they wanted you to do?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

5739.826

Okay.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

576.189

I think when you have a fight and it's five rounds, say of a fight, if a guy's mounted on top of a guy at the end of the first round, I think the second round should start with that guy mounted on top of you. I don't think they should start standing up because it doesn't make any sense. Like you didn't earn that stand up. That guy took you down. He got on top of you. He's mounted on you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

5761.309

But you can't leave your base.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

5848.027

So what are you thinking when you're out there doing this? What is going through your head when you agree to do this?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

5860.603

That's what's crazy. It's like they just let you figure it out.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

5864.388

So you have to feel very vulnerable.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

5881.542

Some people can just make shit happen.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

5892.226

Go act like a retard when you get pulled over.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

5898.329

So the problem is once you do one of these, now you're the guy that can go do these things.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

5906.152

Jesus Christ.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

5908.313

You loved it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

5930.094

You're going to trust yourself.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

5935.999

But it's still a very unusual mindset.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

596.002

You're about to get fucked up. And then all of a sudden you have a reprieve from the governor because the round is over and now you're standing up again. And if you're a striker, that's your world. But you didn't earn that position. It's one fight. It's not five fights. It's one fight. So why should you have a beginning of every round where you're standing up?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

60.769

I was listening to it in the sauna this morning, and I was like, oh, my God.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6020.884

And there's no one that can really teach you this. Fuck.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6027.928

Like, you could teach a guy how to breach an airplane. Right. How the fuck are you going to teach a guy to act like a retard if you get pulled over? How are you going to teach a guy to be a singleton and do a hundred different things?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6051.461

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6132.168

It's a very unusual experience. How many guys were singletons?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

614.477

If I could change the rules, that's the first rule that I would change. I would say whatever position you were in at the end of the round, that's where you start.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6146.261

How many pages is this book that you wrote?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6152.528

It seems like it'd have to be 500 fucking pages.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6162.53

Yeah. We'll get that book sold.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6165.111

So that leads me. I need to read that book right now.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6171.854

Okay.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6175.337

Okay.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6193.469

Well, it's probably better because you're going to get it like from you with no gloss.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6211.267

So once they realize you can do this.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6214.51

Like, oh, call McPhee.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6220.615

Wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6223.658

So you started enjoying the craziness of it. I love being alone. Why did you love it so much?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6260.996

You know what I mean? Right. So you just had you had your mission and you enjoyed the fact that it was all up to you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6278.679

That is such a wild experience. Like your experience in war must be so different than everybody else's just because of that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6300.81

Yeah, I do. What is it?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6304.312

Oh, you got a box. I brought a box. I'm kind of scared. What's that?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6322.073

This is his hat?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6348.553

That's fucking crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6370.96

This is crazy. This was on his head. Now it's here.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

639.435

Well, the early days were wild, right? Because there was no time limit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6536.004

Wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6560.073

He didn't bathe himself.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6622.862

He got in an accident?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6749.282

That's such a clever idea. Yeah. Have two guys fight in front.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

6769.894

Like that's genius.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

68.452

I was in there for half an hour, which I usually do 20 minutes, but I kept going. I'm like, this life is so fucked up. I feel like I shouldn't bail right now. I should keep listening.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7066.167

You're uniquely qualified for chaos for some strange reason.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7080.647

Is that something that like... you accumulated this mindset over time? Or did you just always have it?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7090.081

Really?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7094.347

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7099.074

Right. And then it's just, you're designed for that. Brain glass in case of war.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7111.48

I mean, I understand you. I understand you. It's not normal, but I understand you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7156.689

Well, you were operating at 10.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7232.034

The crazy thing about it is if you are running any branch of the military and you're asking a lot of people to find someone like you, that you can find someone who doesn't just accept this but thrives on it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7297.782

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7301.003

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7302.943

But the thing about it is if you didn't talk about it, people wouldn't know.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7307.664

Like, I think it's great that you talk about it. I think it's important. I think people need to, I mean, people need to, you know, we're trying to like fill in an understanding of the world. And until you've talked to someone who's experienced a part of the world in a way in a way that no one else has, you don't know that that's a thing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7328.756

Like the fact that you can come and talk about this is a very good thing for everybody. Thank you. Because people will see like, OK. Like this is super complicated. Like the whole thing was super complicated. And to have a guy that could talk about navigating probably the most complicated aspect of this super complicated thing and to actually thrive in it. It's very strange.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7359.163

You're definitely not normal. But like I said, I understand you. Thanks, man. I get it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7404.153

Whoa.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7432.278

Yeah, it's plastic.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7435.521

But specific to them.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7438.123

Wow. Let's see on there.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7445.54

Elk Ribble, Tool Handle, Bozeman, Montana.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7467.912

So you had that made specifically because you knew that they carried that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7476.621

So that is one. But why does it say Bozeman, Montana?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

748.874

That's hilarious. So you started training martial arts when you were in the military?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7497.429

OK.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7500.551

So the handguard and the pistol grip is from the original gun.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7547.737

There's some fucking nightmares in that hat.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

755.84

In the unit. So did they have like, was it like technical training? Did they teach you? Did they have like real instructors? Yeah. How does it work?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7553.942

Well, you were selling it?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7555.323

I bet someone would want that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7580.495

You know what that would be good for?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7614.424

Wasn't it the serial number? It's a 68 Camaro and it was for sale. And I came that close to pulling the trigger on it. But I was like, I don't want that fucking bad juju in my life. That's it. 68 Camaro from Deadly Siege. Zach Beggins. Oh, he does have it. So he bought it. So Zach bought it. That's the one selling it, I think. Oh, he's selling it now. So he got it. It was for sale.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7634.64

23 this was from a year. No this it was for sale quite a while ago, and I was gonna buy it Somebody somebody emailed me and told me that they know I love old muscle cars And they said Koresh is Camaro's for sales like ooh, and I went like this. Let me buy it then I was like no The fuck am I gonna do with this yeah?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7655.352

Yeah, I have a 69. Yeah. I love them. I love old muscle cars, so I was thinking about it. But I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. You don't want that in your life.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7666.18

Look at the title. David Koresh, Waco, Texas.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7674.355

No, it seems normal. Look at the VIN numbers. Normal. It's a normal VIN number. Fucking crazy asshole. That guy, I, when, you know, you went to the mothership last night. Yeah. I was going to buy another building before that that was run by a cult. And they moved out here. It was called, I forget what the... What was the name? The Bodhi Tree? Is that what it's called?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7697.366

Anyway, there's a documentary on it. It's called Holy Hell. So this guy, he was a yoga teacher in West Hollywood. And he was a gay porn star and a hypnotist. So this fucking guy... He got a lot of ass. So the Bodhi Field. That's it. Thank you. So...

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7716.861

Waco goes off right and then the cult awareness network starts investigating him and he's running this cult in West Hollywood so he escapes in the middle of night and drives out to Texas moves to Austin tells everybody come here and they all move out to Austin and then he has them build this place it's called the one world theater and

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7737.552

And all the cult members ran this place for years until they figured out that this guy was fucking everybody. One guy sends out a mass email saying, hey, this guy's been hypnotizing me and butt-fucking me for the last 10 years. And everybody's like, me too. So then they all find out that he's fucking everybody, this guy. So they all leave. The cult falls apart. The building's for sale.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7756.546

So I swoop in. When I move here, the building's for sale. Ron White tells me about the building being for sale. He's like, this building's fucking awesome. I performed there. You should buy it. So Ron White's my hero. So I'm like, I'll buy it. Fuck it. We're going to open up a comedy club. Let's open it up in this place.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7774.722

all sorts of problems with the building code this that a lot of environmental a lot of shit so i get out of it but i bought the building before i watched the documentary so i watched the documentary and i'm like oh no same thing it's like these people though all the lives lost they lived 20 years these poor people wasted 20 years of their life following this asshole And he's got this building.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7800.471

But the reason why he bought the building was because of Waco. So when Waco pops off, they were like, oh, geez, these cults are fucking dangerous. So the cult awareness network starts going after everybody. So this guy moves here and changes his name. Because back then, you could kind of change. No internet. You could do that. You could kind of change your name and know, oh, it's a different guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7818.721

And so he has all his followers build him this theater. So for a brief period of time, I was under contract for that theater.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7827.125

you go in there building oh yeah was it creepy in there it was a little weird this guy would like he had this theater this beautiful theater he had it built so he could dance in front of his followers so he could perform in front of his followers he was a weird cat he was like a really handsome guy when he was younger but then as he got older he started getting plastic surgery and got looked real weird

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7850.057

And he would be thinking about getting something done, so he'd force one of his followers to go get it done. And so they'd get it done. They'd come back with their fucking cheeks. So he's like, hmm, I kind of like that. And then he would go and get the surgery done. At the end of the documentary, he looks really fucking weird because he's got Botox and fucking cheek and all weird shit to his face.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7869.898

Yeah, but the feeling in the building was just like of loss. That's what it felt like, loss. Loss. Just, oh, no. Yeah. You know, like you don't want to buy a house from some people that went bankrupt and they lost everything and their family fell apart and then you're in the house like, ooh.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7886.709

This house feels like sadness.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7889.011

I felt like we could burn some sage and fucking party in there for a few days. We'll clean it up.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7893.914

But now I'm glad. I'm glad that that didn't happen.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7898.777

Yeah. Well, it was kind of funny at first. I thought it was funny until a cult owned it. Oh, this is funny. And then my buddy Adam called me up and goes, hey, you watch a documentary on that cult? I was like, oh, no.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7911.245

That's never good.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7912.566

They don't make documentaries about the good cults. No. And it was horrible. At the end of the documentary, you're tearing up. You're like, oh, these poor fucking people. Because some people are just gullible, and they're not bad people. They just want someone better than them to tell them how to live life. Yeah. That's all it is.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7931.136

They need something. They're missing something, whatever it is. Something went wrong, and they're willing to believe a lot of really ridiculous shit. And then 20 years later, they realize they wasted their life.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7943.32

mm-hmm exactly yeah yeah and that was this place yeah but that was because of Waco that this this guy built this thing yeah damn the Waco things fucked you ever watched the the raid

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7967.526

It was pretty fucked. I mean, they just cooked those people. Yeah, they burned it down. Oh, yeah. If I can see the tanks, like, shooting fire into the buildings. I don't know what happened. Caught fire. Caught fire.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7976.956

It was back in the 90s when you could kind of get away with something like that and people didn't really know.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7986.725

And we shot fire at it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7988.026

I don't know what happened.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

7989.528

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8029.27

Okay.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8046.31

Are they knives?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8099.02

Oh, that's hilarious.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8100.983

You're going to get your ass kicked.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8104.027

That's so funny. That's the most gentle ass kicking of all time.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8115.383

Yeah, you make these out of leather, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8119.484

I saw this on Sean's show.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8167.03

Because I've seen people, they're making gear and clothes out of like this cooling material. What is it?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8184.903

I've heard people talk about clothes that they make out of this. They're like, it's really legit. For whatever reason, it keeps you cooler.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8214.85

If somebody wants to buy any of this stuff, where do they get it online? Sheriff of Baghdad, Joe. SheriffofBaghdad.com. That's right. Okay.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8229.079

Oh, okay. So this doesn't even go through a metal detector.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8247.708

Just go to the gas station, get on the canisters.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8291.248

Jamie's been looking for one of those for a while. Haven't you, Jamie? When Carl gets out of line.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8324.305

So if this touches the barrel, it doesn't melt.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8351.183

You have great videos online, like instructional videos, like how to fight out of your car.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8358.367

They're really informative, like things I didn't think I was interested in learning. Then I started watching this. This guy's fucking thought this shit through.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8412.942

I hunted with him this year.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

842.164

Which is all stuff you have to know.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8425.452

Yeah, we sell a ton of those. Okay. And what do you do with the extra lace?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

844.286

But there wasn't a lot of like just one on one.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8485.462

Smart.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8486.303

Yeah, I have a pencil like that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8488.184

Someone gave me.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8553.769

Yeah. So look at this edge. Grip.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

86.442

A hundred percent. Yeah. And I think in some, well, fighters as well. You know, a lot of fighters that I know, like Sean Strickland, a lot of guys that I know had fights. fucked up childhoods. I think it gives you an extra gear. I think when you can get through a childhood like that, you got an extra place that you can go to that other dudes can't go to.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

862.149

Was there a system, like a training system?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8664.472

I don't like to keep both eyes open. I've tried it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8671.016

Hmm.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8731.086

That makes sense. I've never heard anybody say that before, but now that you're saying it, I'm like, okay. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8762.788

Evan was telling me that he learned to practice left-handed a lot.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8768.21

And he practices things, even though he's right-hand dominant, it helped the right side to practice with the left side.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8775.992

Do you subscribe to that?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8818.085

It makes sense because you have this mental memory of excellence with one side. You just have to...

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8832.16

Right. That makes sense.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8835.524

I think it completely makes sense, and I've never heard anybody say it before. Everybody says you should keep both eyes open.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8870.578

It does. Are you one of those guys that resists red dots? I don't give a shit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8876.663

Did you ever resist it at all? Because iron sights never fail you. They're always there. No batteries.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8909.09

And you get better technique with iron sights.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

8943.778

Why is it harder to learn?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9005.84

That's interesting.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

901.199

Oh, like Kali.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9013.24

But it's all about showing them how to get it right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9020.644

How important is it to teach people the right way the first time so they don't have to unlearn shit?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9069.145

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9093.192

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9094.774

That's with everything, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9106.346

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9109.949

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9114.794

Right. That's great advice.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9160.182

One thing about teaching jiu-jitsu, though, is I think it makes you better at jiu-jitsu. I think it's selfish. It's like a good thing for you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

917.07

Yeah. Dudes are good with that are very impressive.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9183.799

No, I love that. There's no day where no one's trying to hand you your ass. Yeah, let's go. That's the beautiful thing about jiu-jitsu, too. You don't really catch any breaks. You might get one day where there's like, oh, there's only blue belts here.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9213.301

How are you avoiding injuries?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9263.511

You were talking about that on Sean Ryan's show.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9271.456

A guy who's been through everything that you've been through is like, needles, sketch me out.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9296.131

Redheaded people have better pain tolerance.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9300.854

I think there's a thing about that, though. Google that. Redheaded people have better pain tolerance.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9312.302

Like when you got roofied. Like everybody else conked out.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9318.605

You were also talking about on Sean's show that you have the thing that Jamie has where you can take a lot of edibles and you don't feel it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9327.247

Some studies have found that redheads have a lower pain threshold, but other studies have found the opposite. Oh, okay. So it's all fucked up. Inconclusive. Inconclusive.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

933.235

How did the Filipinos develop that stick fighting? Where did that come from? Oh, man. Isn't it weird that one culture is known for their stick fighting?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9390.629

Huh? From guns.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9499.351

So you're very strict about it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9573.828

Oh, I've seen that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

960.726

Stuff like that. I've always been so fascinated how different cultures have a completely different approach to fighting. Like the Thais figured out the best way to fight stand-up.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9640.836

That's the interesting thing about treating it like the sport versus what you get out of it, what you like.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9665.275

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9671.299

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9677.462

Do you spend a lot of time practicing off your back? Cause a lot of times with big guys, I'll start there.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

971.956

Kick the shit out of the legs.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9710.154

When I would roll with someone who's weak, I would pretend I'm weak. I think that's the best way to do it. No strength. I'm never going to use strength. Hickson always said that defense was more important than anything. He said, I am always safe. No matter where I am, I am always safe. Defense.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9731.904

You've seen the documentary?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

974.558

Elbow the fuck out of people in the clinch. Plung, knees, knees to the body, knees to the face. They figured out striking in a way that nobody else had. It's weird that they did it. And I think it's just because of the competition all the time and the betting.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9743.895

Because he's got Parkinson's now.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9751.242

Yeah. You got to watch Choke.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9753.983

One of the greatest documentaries of all time.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9757.606

It's fucking incredible. It's Hickson in his prime competing in Japan, Valley Tudor. You see him training and doing his yoga and all the crazy breathing shit where his stomach sucks up inside of him. I don't even know how to do that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9817.372

It's just being practical. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9821.376

Yeah. It's pretty cool getting your purple belt from that guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

989.288

Because they were fighting so often and they had so much money on the line for fighting that they developed a very pragmatic way of fighting. Because they were fighting all the time as opposed to karate or any of these other things. I don't think they were really fighting as much.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9917.711

That's pretty fucking cool.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2238 - John McPhee

9970.672

They're happy to welcome people from other schools.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2298 - Kurt Metzger

1422.863

That's part of the problem, right? That might be a signal, though. They were saying that that could just be like a code. Oh, right, which is why you would say that in that way. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2298 - Kurt Metzger

1439.854

I don't know that it was meant to be public, but the FBI, I guess, verified that it was from him. They didn't verify the content. They just said, we know that he sent it. Right. So who did he send it to? Look at this guy named Shoemate, who is a guy who does like an Instagram account that talks about like military stuff.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2298 - Kurt Metzger

1456.267

You know, I don't know if he's like a whistleblower officially, but he had a military account on Instagram.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2298 - Kurt Metzger

1823.67

Maybe he's right, though. I think it's not exactly that way. Hold on.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2298 - Kurt Metzger

1992.055

Jesus Christ.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2298 - Kurt Metzger

2398.67

Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2298 - Kurt Metzger

248.222

Wait a minute.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2298 - Kurt Metzger

250.783

It's not a pardon, but the SEC said no charges.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2298 - Kurt Metzger

2920

We were basically like South Korea.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2298 - Kurt Metzger

2926.147

Yeah, she said Oliver Stone. Luna said Oliver Stone, who directed JFK, said he's seen a secondary copy of the film and that NBC has been sitting on it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2298 - Kurt Metzger

3190.95

I can't.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2298 - Kurt Metzger

3192.151

I can either play this and show you guys the screen or I can do, like, you know. Oh, play it. Just finish it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2298 - Kurt Metzger

3335.692

She's a nurse? A nurse. She's involved in the COVID stuff? Yes. Oh, yes. She is. She's talking to him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2298 - Kurt Metzger

3350.215

I can't remember. I don't know what they were talking. She was reporting from the hospitals, I guess. Yes. In Florida.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2298 - Kurt Metzger

3422.025

All sorts of stuff.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2298 - Kurt Metzger

6448.678

It was supposed to be a Christmas tree. That's what it was called.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2298 - Kurt Metzger

6453.079

It says he admitted to it was supposed to be a joke. You know, it is a joke.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2298 - Kurt Metzger

769.555

Talk to it. Yeah, it's like from the American people, which is sick.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2298 - Kurt Metzger

775.645

Oh, good.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2298 - Kurt Metzger

8933.644

840K or so. That's it?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2298 - Kurt Metzger

8942.007

It's only worth $853, but that's if you just left it in the bank, I guess, and never did anything with it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2298 - Kurt Metzger

9131.622

I mean, the article that popped up says it's happened. I'm trying to see if it's more accurate. This was in 2010 to 16. They did receive funding from them, but that's when the article was written.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2298 - Kurt Metzger

9149.872

You're in.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2250 - Raekwon

2818.563

Yes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2250 - Raekwon

3290.374

Mm-hmm.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2250 - Raekwon

5494.383

Let's be honest.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2250 - Raekwon

5497.526

Scratching records.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2250 - Raekwon

5638.021

Wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2250 - Raekwon

841.282

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2250 - Raekwon

859.354

Oh, shit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

1000.911

What percentage of things that you find in medical textbooks, basic and advanced, do you think are false based on your understanding of what we actually know now compared to when the textbooks were written? And he said, 50%. And then he's, and then Rick said, and yep. And then Rick said, I know I was wide-eyed too.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10004.586

But what he's saying is, what he's saying, and I finally got it. It's like, what are the things that really pull that energy out of you? What did that when you were young? And if you're fortunate enough to get into something young, That's a beautiful thing. And, you know, Rick's superpower is his ability to get close to things, people, music, et cetera, and feel it. He can feel that thing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10026.099

And he encourages them to do more of that thing as opposed to the thing they think they should do. And then what's also remarkable about him is he's able to disengage and just be Rick again. Like he has this like empathy, but it doesn't like take him over. It's so wild, the guy that grew up in music and did all the things he did for music, he's never had a sip of alcohol or done a drug.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10042.728

How many people who hang around musicians could pull that off?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10073.368

100%, and this is, all right, so I go over there to spend time with him. He's out of the US right now. And it was the weirdest visit ever. I go over to visit Rick and we tread water in the morning and we listened to this podcast, A History of 100 Rock and Roll Songs by Andrew Hickey. It's sort of like Cuban Lab Podcast, but rock and roll, like super nerdy, long, like drawn out.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10095.625

There are a few podcasts like that, like Founders Podcast, I love that one. Mine is like super nerdy, right? About a given topic. So we would do that and then we would just like sit around. And I'm like, what are you gonna do? He's like, well, let's just like sit. And we would just sit with eyes closed. And I was like, all right, then we have lunch. And then he was like, well, let's just sit.

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#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10113.093

And then at one point I'm like, Rick, what are we doing? And he's like, well, when you keep your body still and your mind is really active, amazing ideas come forward. And that's when I was like, oh my goodness. Because my first guest on my podcast was a guy named Karl Deisseroth. He's the world's best bioengineer. He's a psychiatrist. He raised five kids. He's a phenom.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10133.925

He'll probably win a Nobel Prize. And he told me his practice of coming up with ideas is after his kids are asleep at night, sits down and he keeps his body completely still. And he forces himself to think in complete sentences, keep his mind super active. And I was like, wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10149.806

And it turns out that if you look historically, a number of scientists have talked about this, a number of creatives have talked about this. And then it, I don't have any studies to support this, but then I realized what is the state of our brain or time when the brain is very active and our body is still, and our mind is coming up with all sorts of ideas, it's rapid eye movement sleep.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10169.105

We're paralyzed during rapid eye movement sleep. We have sleep atonia. And everybody knows based on dream studies and studies of creativity that during rapid eye movement sleep is two things happen. There's a removal of some of the emotional load of previous day's experiences, which is why rapid eye movement sleep is so critical for emotion regulation afterwards.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10188.479

and for the regulating depression and things like that. But also we come up with new configurations. And so Karl Deisseroth, Einstein, there are reports of this, of him walking and then closing his eyes and stopping and describing his mind moving forward while his body was still. Very kind of subjective. Rick has this practice. And I thought to myself, like, wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

1019.117

And then Rick said, and what is the extent of impact on treatment of patients modern day? And his answer was one word, incalculable.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10209.105

So I've started trying to do a sort of meditation where I force myself to be very bodily still with my mind very active. I can't. You know, just started this kind of interesting in light of creativity. But the other thing, and this goes to what you were saying before, you know, Rick came up through punk rock, punk rock and hip hop, right? And I love punk rock music, grew up on it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10227.51

That era in their eighties, punk rock in New York is amazing. Like, but the whole thing, like Beastie Boys, he was close with the Ramones, Joe Strummer, all this, and then hip hop. What he understands, and I can't speak for him, but what he understands is that there's this energy in an early field, let's say of music, where they're not thinking about making money doing it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10247.641

Like NWA, those guys were just being themselves when they were making music, right? I watched that movie, The Defiant Ones, about Dre and I think it's Jimmy Iovine about- but it's really about the energy of hip early hip hop. And then they talk about Eminem and a bunch of other things, or you watch Rick and I at night, we'd watch Ramones documentaries or clash documentaries.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10270.601

And it's like, it's the energy of something that's new where people are just being themselves. And they're not thinking about making a ton of money on a record. A really great producer comes in and captures that energy. and rolls it forward. And usually what ends up happening is then the general public falls in love with it. And then a bunch of things happen to those people.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10288.417

And then whatever dysfunction exists in their world gets amplified. And then we hear about it. There's kind of a consistent theme over and over, but it's like, and then one of the things that came up when I was visiting Rick is I was like, you know, I feel like, like I came up through skateboarding, punk rock music. I'm not a musician, that incredible energy. I don't know much about hip hop,

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10306.351

I was like, science had that when I first got into neuroscience. Like no one talked about neuroscience. It didn't even have a name. We're just like brain explorers, cutting up brains, figuring out what to do, trying to figure out what these structures did and all this stuff. And then podcasting. It's like, I really feel like the podcasters, at least some of us, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

1032.67

50% in currently used medical textbooks, meaning that the literature has been updated with new understanding, new scientific papers, but it has not yet been incorporated into the medical education.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10322.637

It's like, it's like punk rock. It's like hip hop because we're not thinking about, I wasn't just sit down and like start my podcast. I'm going to start the human lab podcast. I was like, I've just got all this stuff in me that I want to tell people because I think it's super cool. And a lot of it, I think might also be really useful to them. And you're just being you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10337.155

So when Rick or Lex is just being Lex and or Chris Williamson is just being Chris Williamson or Whitney Cummings is just being Whitney Cummings. So when when a podcast works, I think it's because you're just being you. And it seems so obvious. It's kind of almost trite. But Rick is like, exactly.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10353.486

And the biggest mistake is to take the feedback, the comments, whatever, the hit pieces, whatever, and to change who you are. Now, there is sometimes useful information that comes back to us in ways we could do better in life, and certainly I am doing that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10366.354

But the point is, at its essence, it's like the thing that makes podcasting beautiful to me is that I think we're right now, thanks in large part to you and some of the other early entrance guys, guys that paved the way, is that... It's a real thing. It's a real discussion. There's no script. We didn't talk about what we were going to talk about before.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10388.425

Whereas when you go out there and you see these highly overproduced or media-infused podcasts, it's not real. It's not real. It's got an angle. They have a story they want to tell.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10401.891

It became produced. Right. And let's be real honest with you. Look, you are consistently, this podcast is consistently miles and miles ahead of everybody else in terms of the amount of consumption of it, why? Because it's a place where people immediately and consistently go, oh, it's like, Joe's just being Joe. It's just like a real thing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10420.802

And when I say a real thing, this is what Rick means, like people just being themselves, which like your loves, the things that bother you. And so I think that podcasting to me, it's like skateboarding, it's like punk rock, it's like hip hop, it's like a sport. It's like an art. Like if you watch the movie, one of my favorite movies, the Basquiat movie, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10439.595

With Benicio Del Toro and Dennis Hopper and Christopher Walker and David Bowie. Like, why was he so amazing? It's because Jean-Michel Basquiat was just being himself until the fame got to him. An article got written about how he was, you know, Warhol's lapdog, they called him or something like that. And you can see him obsessing about it. And there's this amazing riff. I don't know.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10461.91

People haven't seen it. They should just look up on YouTube, like, how long does it take to get famous from the movie Basquiat? And it's Benicio del Toro, who plays the young Vincent Gallo, telling him, here's what happens when you get famous.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10473.418

And it's an amazing clip because it explains the arc of fame and people becoming famous for being themselves and then doing the things that they think they should do to stay famous. uh, popular and it destroys the whole thing. And so Rick's message is like Rick's talent is to like feel real energy. He can tell what's real and what's fake. That's why he likes wrestling. He knows it's fake. Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10495.995

And then feel that and encourage somebody to do more of that. Less of other stuff. He's a creativity guru. He's a creativity guru. Then step back. And, but the message he just has keeps saying, and most of our conversations and with, uh, I'm just saying like, yeah, man, just continue to be you. You, curious, adventure, whatever makes Andrew, Andrew. I know what those things are. It's not about me.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10518.233

This is really about hopefully if like people hear it, like Rick is saying in that book and in all his messages, like we all have some little spark or gift or genetic bias towards something. And if you feed that, and it's a benevolent thing, you become that, it stays real.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10545.688

People love that. Again, I don't know hip hop that well, but you don't have to see Eminem very many times or watch 8 Mile more than a couple of times or listen to his music and understand there's an energy there. It's not manufactured.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10566.355

Well, I'm a huge Joe Strummer fan, and I remember asking Rick, I was like, hey, what do you think it was about Strummer? The Clash were only around for like five years. He was like, come and gone, right? And he said, very Rick, he goes, you know, there's something about Joe where everything he said he brought his entire life experience to that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10584.943

And I'm like, well, that's about as mystical as it gets. Like, what do you mean? And he's like, he just was purely himself that day with no concern about how you would perceive him. He wasn't trying to impress you or look punk or not look punk. He just, you know, like- He just was.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

1060.449

there's got to be levels to it and I just can't imagine that a bloodhound doesn't have a better sense of smell than a person right so they absolutely have a better sense of smell in under the definition that they use it they use the same number of receptors differently in other words the resolution of your vision and a mouse's vision is dramatically different the resolution of your vision is

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10601.049

Strummer fell in love with hip hop, he'd bring out hip hop artists and the punks would boo, which is when he realized punks aren't even punk. And so there's something so beautiful about the energy of something really pure. Like a Ryan Garcia left hook. Or early Beastie Boys, right? Or later Beastie Boys, whatever. Or podcasting.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10622.317

And my work now is so much about, like you said, don't read the comments, shut out the noise. Lex wants to go into the darkness and the light. He wants it, he needs it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10639.684

I know, but I feel like if he didn't do that, it would be as weird as him not wearing that suit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10653.688

There are destructive aspects. I mean, it can go too far. There's a great quote in the Oliver Sacks book. He said he had a teacher that said, Oliver will go far provided he does not go too far. And I read that right about the point that I recently saw the documentary Roadrunner about Bourdain. And I actually had a chance to sit down and talk to Morgan Neville who made that movie.

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#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10676.125

And I didn't know much about him, but like what I saw there was just like an adventure, like a super curious person, an adventure and a punk rocker. Like he was from that era of like Ramones, like it was like, and it was just a spectacular, like, I don't know why I didn't know more about him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10693.399

I should have, because we have, there's kind of overlap in interest sets around like the, you know, New York punk rock, that era that I've always been fascinated by. I'm a few years behind there, but I was like, wow, like I just saw like genuine curiosity in people and things. And I realized like the food part was kind of incidental. It was like the person, it was just being him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10713.118

And that's why I think so many people loved him is because he was just being him. And I don't know any more about it, but like, I feel like, People just being themselves is like the ultimate in personal development.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10849.744

Because you're going to die if heat is a real thing. This is what Rick says, like nature is a truth. Like you heat up too much, too long, you can die. And you're playing with that a little bit. It's playing and it's hard and you do it correctly and you're good.

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#2195 - Andrew Huberman

1086.798

is very sharp at the fovea towards the center of your eye. And actually towards the periphery, anyone can just do this. You wiggle your fingers out here in the periphery and you can't see any detail, right? As you move that forward, you can see detail, okay?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10934.371

I do something similar.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10936.892

I like to walk or hike. I use one of these vests. I don't have any relationship to them, but Amorfo makes these ones that are really close to the body.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10945.234

And so I use that because you can really move easily in that. I don't like a heavily loaded military vest. It doesn't feel right to me. And if I load from the back like a ruck, I feel pitched forward. So I like how smooth it goes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10957.247

Yeah, nice, smooth feel. And then I'll walk far that way. But then I'll do the same thing. Except I do it a little different. I'll go 10-second sprint.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

1096.721

So, and that's because the density of pixels, so to speak, in the retina is much, much higher near the fovea, near the center than it is at the periphery. So what he's saying, what Noam Sobel's laboratory has found and others have found, is that the number of pixels, the potential for olfactory resolution in humans and in bloodhounds is essentially the same. This is his argument.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10965.675

um 20 second rest do that eight times that's my friday morning hit workout and i feel like i want to die by the last one but i think that i have an observation that's not backed by any formal science i'd like your thoughts on it i've known a lot of people who are kind of compulsive anxious or even outright addicts who then get really into running or any kind of cardio long distance endurance type sport and they seem to

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

10990.899

again, not a scientific study, they seem to get and stay sober. Whereas I find that while weightlifting is really healthy and I really enjoy it, I've observed that it can create a kind of like tension in the body that doesn't like release completely, maybe even builds energy into the nervous system, so to speak. And I do know a number of people who have had challenges with drugs and alcohol.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

11012.91

I'm grateful that I haven't had those challenges, but I've had challenges with drugs and alcohol, and they've gone the way of just weightlifting. and they've been like multiple relapsers. Now that's not a knock against weightlifting. I think people should do resistance training and cardio. But it is kind of remarkable that people that do a lot of cardio seem to successfully beat their addictions.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

11047.119

What's the longest distance you've ever run in a single bout?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

11073.251

Yeah, he's a sicko. He's got a broken foot right now, and he's still running on it. Yeah, he's got to get surgery, but he can't have surgery right now because he has a elk hunting season coming up He was on his way to Alaska when I sent me some some some meat which I'm very grateful for is delicious.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

11090.1

He um He told me that I said, you know, what's the pain level in that foot because he showed the x-ray is still very broken Yeah, and he said I said, you know 10 out of 10 being max pain like excruciating cannot stand it He's like, I don't know maybe a four or five, but he's running. Yeah, yeah Yeah, he came and stayed recently.

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He stayed at my house a few times and I've set up some archery in the backyard and I like, he can use my sauna, cold plunge. I love it when people just spontaneously come and stay. Lex has come and stayed. And I wake up and this is literally, we did a post about, but literally how it happened was I woke up in the morning, I hadn't yet started work. So that was added later to the post.

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And Cam Haines is on my roof shooting arrows at my targets, which he's moved beyond the fence line. And so the neighbors are like, who's this guy? This is Los Angeles, right? So he's a wild man. I love him. Hitting bullseyes the whole way through just to rub it in.

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I know. And I keep trying to get him to do some of what I know to be very useful things like – BPC-157, et cetera, which, yes, there isn't any clinical data for it. It's all animal data.

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But so many people report feeling better.

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Yeah, he needs to mend that thing.

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Guys like him and Goggins will run on stumps.

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But the bloodhounds sniff much more. So it's the equivalent of having their eyes open much more, right, in the exam, so to speak. They have these vortices that are created by the structure of their nose and nostrils. So they have longer exposure.

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He's a phenom. Well, there's a guy where in his whatever it was, late 20s, took a look at his childhood, was like, well, I wasn't, you know, being, you know, my nervous system shaped to be a great athlete or a Navy SEAL, et cetera. looked at everything he had become, and he basically said a big, hard no.

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He's like, whatever it was that happened before then, he was going to shape his nervous system by putting in endless hours. Yeah, in his 20s.

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In his 20s, right. So it runs counter to everything that we talked about earlier, which is that one has to start early, but he's making up the time and then some. I saw a poster where he couldn't move his legs for whatever reason. Maybe he just had surgery.

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So he was running on his hands on the treadmill. Yeah. With his feet positioned kind of like plank position.

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That's amazing. Super inspiring. He's like a noun and a verb and an adjective.

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Titanium is pretty good. This is what the neurosurgeons understand. You take out a little flap of skull, you replace it with titanium. It's a lot stronger. You mean titanium knees? Is that what you're suggesting? Yeah, or other biomaterials, right?

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Yeah, exosomes are exciting. BPC-157, while only animal data, it's very clear, you know, it has the propensity to encourage fibroblasts, which are these cells that, you know, make up things like tendon and cartilage, et cetera, and can really repair tissues. I mean, you know, and I certainly have experienced it can help repair things.

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Yeah. It sucks. It sucks. Well, my wish, I mean, I have no plans to go to Washington, but but my wish is that things like BBC 157, some very interesting, I would say not cutting edge, but even further out, like bleeding edge things like pineal in which can help with regeneration of the pineal sites are incredible for sleep potentially. Like we need these things explored.

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And in the case of the bear, for instance, I don't know how many olfactory receptors they have relative to a human or a bloodhound, but that the bear is likely spending a lot more time and can pull more air, perhaps. I don't know, but is using the mechanical aspects of the olfactory system differently.

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And everyone for a while was like peptides. Oh, it sounds really kind of gray market weird. And it can be. But let's face it. GLP-1 agonists. That's a peptide that existed for years in the fitness and bodybuilding industry. Now it's probably approaching a trillion dollar industry someday.

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Well, we did an episode on back health and strengthening the back and back pain. We had Stu McGill on and it was wild. I've never received emails and stuff like that. Like half of the people or more saying this, the McGill big three helped me so much, might stabilize my back. It's like a, you know, he's got his three movements. You can look it up on YouTube.

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They're easy to find there, but it's all about, and he's in great shape in his late sixties. Incredible, incredible shape. Chops Wood, he's up in Canada. So yeah. he basically is giving behavioral tools to stabilize and strengthen the spine and deal with back pain.

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other half we're like what is this you know you can't treat back pain there's a pseudoscience and then but then everyone telling me how much benefit they got out of mcgill's big three and then the war among the physios like the physios that's an ugly field i'll tell you and i asked someone why is this field of you know exercise physiology so brutal i asked andy galpin i asked and it turns out it's because it's very hard to get a lot of clients and the moment that somebody comes out with knowledge that's very useful for a lot of people they're potentially taking away their

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So to say nothing of the pain treatment world, we had a guy on our podcast named Sean Mackey. He's an MD, PhD, runs our pain clinic at Stanford. And he talks about the biopsychosocial model of pain. And he's very open-minded. Meds work in some cases. So does your emotional or cognitive interpretation of the pain. What does it mean? So do things like meditation.

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He's basically trying to incorporate all these different things. He's very holistic, for lack of a better word. But if you look at most pain docs, They're not that evolved. They're just like, okay, this is what you use. It might be addictive, might not be addictive, but they're not ever talking about strengthening the systems that gave away in the first place. So I totally agree with you.

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There is no replacement for self-care. There's just no replacement, no pill, no potion, no injection, no nothing. There are things that can help, but there's nothing that can replace behaviors because our nervous system was evolved for these behaviors.

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In fact, and here's now I'm recalling the experiment that led to this conclusion that humans have exceptional olfaction. Which is that there's a particular compound that when introduced to a swimming pool, people can detect a difference in the smell of the water at a dilution that is outrageously small.

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Well, thank you. I really appreciate you. You've been a great friend to me and a great source of support through a bunch of different aspects of podcasting and supporting the discussions about health and exercise and forcing me to make my cold plunge a little colder. Let me sniff smelling salt. Yeah.

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all of it you know i might be wrong about the cold i don't know no but really right back at you you know there are very few places in the world where you can have a real discussion about real things from all the angles and know that the person sitting across from you is being truly open-minded about it so really appreciate you my pleasure i appreciate you too all right bye everybody

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Like skunk spray. Forgive me because I'm not remembering the name of the chemical. But he said you can essentially add a drop of this to a swimming pool and then people can smell the difference between the water. And so his argument is not that humans are walking around sensing all these smells consciously as well as a bloodhound or as well as a bear.

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but that we have a tremendous capacity for olfaction that the chocolate tracking experiment exemplifies, but it requires some removal of our most dominant sense vision and hearing our second most dominant sense. And in that case, tactile, um, uh, orientation as well. And so the idea is that, you know, we have an amazing olfactory apparatus.

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In fact, he, he makes the argument and there's evidence for the fact that as soon as people meet and either they've done these beautiful experiments, people meet, they shake hands and you know, the next thing they do, they tend to, within about a minute, they wipe the scent of the other person on their face. Typically. I guess I wasn't paying attention.

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People don't realize this.

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Right, so we're probably sensitive to the odors that matter. That can kill us. That can kill us. He also has this idea that I think is starting to take hold in real data that we are constantly sensing our own odor plumes, that we smell ourselves a lot of times per day. That's actually very normal behavior. Right. You know, there are all sorts of ways people do that that nobody talks about.

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Yeah, you check a sniff. People check their sniff. And it's an indication of hormone status, immune status. When you have babies or puppies, like, you know, you're looking at like, oh, is a good poop or a bad poop? You know, you're also paying it. People, some people will smell the poop. I'm not a proponent of that.

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But we're constantly sensing the scent and taste of, for instance, our partner's saliva. Actually, an ex-girlfriend of mine wrote to me recently. I don't know what this question represented, but she said, do you think that when you become unattracted to somebody, the taste of their mouth becomes bad to you or the other way around?

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I guess she might have been dating somebody and maybe it had fallen out of favor and she was kind of not attracted and she was sort of noting that their mouth no longer, it tasted kind of aversive now as opposed to before.

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So see this spongy stuff? I don't know if they can see it on video. There's this spongy stuff there. That's something called the cribriform plate. The cribriform plate is a bunch of Swiss cheese-like thin bone. And the olfactory neurons, which basically sit like right behind the back of your nostrils, they send axons, they're little wire-like connections back into the brain.

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And when somebody gets hit hard on the head, that cribriform plate shears it. And that's why people become anosmic. They lose their sense of smell.

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Now, what's amazing about the olfactory neurons is... is that they are among the very few neurons in the human and other mammalian nervous system that regenerates throughout the lifespan. So there's a little area of your hippocampus where there's some neurons that everyone makes a big deal of that frankly don't do a lot to regenerate throughout the lifespan, so-called neurogenesis, new neurons.

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But the olfactory neurons, even though they're a central nervous system neuron, just like your retinal neuron or your cerebral cortex, they can regenerate throughout the entire lifespan. And they do. Every time somebody takes a head hit or there's some shearing off of these axons, they regenerate.

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Now, under conditions like we saw this a lot during COVID where people were complaining about loss of smell. We see this when people age. Some people are thinking that loss of smell may be a correlate, not the cause, but obviously, but a correlate of age-related cognitive decline, dementia, and Alzheimer's, things like that.

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There are a few things, actually, I think I recommended it to a couple of friends of ours. Now, there's very little data on this, but I will say, and I'll catch heat for this, but these days I catch heat anyway, so I don't care. There are good data, in my opinion, small amount of data, but let's call it decent enough data to explore that alpha lipoic acid at 600 milligrams per day

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during the time when you're starting to lose your smell, might rescue some of that smell.

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Or any viral infection where they are losing the sense of smell.

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Well, anything that clogs the sinuses, certainly, but there are influenza viruses that do this. Now, I know as we're saying this, that some people are saying, in fact, Noam Sobel told me that he felt that the data about alpha lipoic acid were kind of on the weak side, but when people are losing their sense of smell and taste, it's really scary.

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I mean, it's one of those things where you kind of feel like so much of pleasure in life, unbeknownst to us is- Yeah, especially with food. Oh, I'll never forget when I got a viral infection and I took, and I lost my sense of smell. And I ate a handful of blueberries, which I love. And it just tasted like bags of water. I was like, oh, goodness. There are worse things in life.

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And I did the smell training, which has also been shown to work. Because these olfactory neurons, this is amazing, their survival is activity dependent. They require electrical activity driven by sniffing and smelling.

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It is true that the behavioral tool of taking a lemon and really just like getting it close to that nostril and just really trying to get whatever little whiff of lemon you can and then taking your coffee

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getting that little whiff of coffee, whatever little remnants of smell that you can get in there has been shown to improve the survival and eventually the durability of not just the olfactory neurons, but scent. In other words, the behavioral training works. The alpha lipoic acid thing is debated.

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The thing about alpha lipoic acid is diabetics and people with blood sugar issues probably shouldn't take it. It can kind of reduce blood sugar a little bit. But when I had that happen, Lost my sense of smell. I was like, listen, I want my smell back. So I took 600 milligrams of alpha lipoic acid and I was doing the scent training.

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I was like sniffing lemon, sniffing coffee, sniffing Parmesan cheese, sniffing anything that was pungent that I could recognize. And my smell came back in a couple of days. But then again, I don't know because I didn't run the control experiment whether or not it would have come back anyway.

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Well, smelling salts I've never used. Uh-oh.

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Do we have some?

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Are they legal before I do something illegal?

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All right, I'll give it a shot.

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I'll just try a little bit.

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This is like the cold plunge. I got a funny story about the cold plunge to tell you later that relates to you.

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Wait, is it going to kill my olfactory neurons?

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Oh, yeah.

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So as somebody who had a laboratory with chemicals in it for a long time, now we run clinical trials on humans, so no more chemicals in my lab.

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You know when you go to a park and you go into a public bathroom at a park that has a pool?

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Yeah, I'm getting nervous. Ha, ha, ha. I'm no Elon Musk, but I saw what happens when people do substances on this.

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You're like, we're down here in Texas.

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Isn't it amazing that the word legal when said fast sounds like illegal?

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And then you go, wait, what did you say?

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And vice versa, right?

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All right. So what do I do?

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Wait, wait. Wait, hold on. Let me just kind of experience that for a second.

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You know what's interesting? Here we go.

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I can feel it in my eye because the sinuses run.

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As long as it's not killing olfactory neurons.

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That's true.

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I actually enjoyed that. Thank you. We have in the green room at the mothership. You prompted me to take several new experiences that we can talk about. But one other thing before I forget. I know I go down these nerdy rabbit holes here, but when I did the smelling salts a moment ago, I sniffed with both nostrils, but it came in mainly through my left nostril.

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And so I asked Noma Sobel, what's the deal with this left nostril, right nostril stuff? You know, you have the yogis, the switching of the nostril things. Here's what's wild. This is so wild. It turns out that every two hours or so, the dominant breathing nostril switches. Now, that could be interesting or that could not be interesting, right?

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There are a lot of things in biology that happen, but like, what is the meaning? Turns out it's a direct reflection of a shift in your so-called autonomic nervous system from parasympathetic dominant to sympathetic dominant, meaning from more relaxed to more alert. And this is happening periodically throughout the day, like a seesaw. injuring sleep.

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So this whole thing with the yogis of, you know, breathe through one nostril or the other nostril, look, it's the olfactory bulbs. There's a lot of crossing over of information at later stages and even some early stages once the information gets to the brain. So that whole thing is probably a little bit like weak sauce.

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But this idea that you're breathing easier through one nostril or the other is reflecting an underlying brain state and body state. That is absolutely true, he tells me. And the last thing is you said, why would bears or bloodhounds have such better smell?

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Well, in the case of a bear, the size of the olfactory bulbs and the amount of brain real estate devoted to processing that information is much more. So we have a huge visual cortex. Most of our brain, frankly, is devoted to vision and to movement. Whereas the brain of, let me think of like a turtle, it's mostly movement. They have very low cerebral cortex.

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Maybe that's not the best example, but certainly in a scent hound, the olfactory bulbs are much bigger than they are in a sight hound. And both of those have olfactory bulbs that are much, much bigger than Jamie's bulldog over there. Those guys sniff all the time, but they're mostly snorting, trying to get sense in. Their sense of smell is much, much worse than Marshall's, than your dog.

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Because Marshall's a retriever.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Incredible. So what Noam is saying is not that humans have smell that is as good, but that when you push the conditions, you can reveal a heightened sense of smell that most people don't think humans have. Now, as I say this, there are a lot of people out there and it's usually women who are like, oh, no, I can smell everything. I can smell the subtlest difference.

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And so it may be something related to maternal health. Behavior it might be something related to estrogen.

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It might be something in the Y chromosome that suppresses that we don't know But some people are very olfactory they can smell when somebody's not feeling right or when they're not feeling right Yeah But it's absolutely the case that we're constantly taking the chemicals off other people through shaking hands through hugging rubbing them on ourselves Analyzing our own smells unconsciously.

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You probably can.

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There could be the stress. It could be a certain... You know, we talk about stress as one thing, but stress is the dosing of different levels of cortisol, epinephrine. People that are pathological liars, they can probably do it without evoking those things. Then you have things like pupil size. Bigger the pupils, more arousal, right? The more stressed somebody is. We know this, right?

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That's why, like, if somebody takes a stimulant, their pupils will get huge.

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So it's like their defenses are up.

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Let me think about this. So you are able to sense the... Their anticipation of your response. It's like they've got queued up some counter some evaluating where you're whether you're going. Yes, no, or maybe.

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I mean, I've been badly, badly manipulated before.

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Yeah, and some of the best manipulators, certainly in my experience, are people that have really... figured out the combination lock of the things that I have felt deprived of and they come in. And those tend to be unique things that you can't get out anywhere. And boy, somebody said to me recently, there are certain categories of humans that I can't be seduced by.

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I'm not talking about just sexual seduction. I'm saying it just can't be seduced by. And then there are some people that just are able to get past that force field. And so I consider myself pretty good at threat sensing, except in that domain where like my threat sensing is like the equivalent of a stuffed animal.

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You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I mean, I think that the one listening to a really good book that a really smart person suggested to me called Five Types of People That Will Ruin Your Life. And and I only wish I had read it years ago.

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And here's the main takeaway, that there are about 10% of people out there, and it cuts across all the standard labels of like narcissist and borderline and all that. Like they include some of that, but they depart from that. And they just focus on what, there's a guy who's a psychologist. It's written by a guy who's a psychologist.

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He's worked a lot on conflict resolution over the years, courtroom type stuff, etc., And he says in this 10% of people, they are high conflict people, but within they like conflict, they feed off it. They like drama, they like conflict, they like creating it. But within that category, it's pretty evenly divided, he claims, between women and men.

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And then there's a further division where about half of them play passive and victim, but are highly manipulative. They use other people to try and basically harm. And then the other 5% are very aggressive and abrasive. And so he has this great set of protocols, I love protocols, that are essentially like, don't move in with, marry or get engaged to or have a child with somebody in the first year.

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And this cuts in both directions. Just don't make that agreement in year one. As well as for any behavior that kind of cues those senses, gets your spidey senses up like you were describing, ask yourself, would 90% or more of people do that behavior. And if it's a no, like you have to pause.

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In other words, what he's saying in this book is that most people are actually pretty healthy, but that most of the woes of the world are created by about 10% of people, which he calls these high conflict people, but they don't always come out high conflict, like screaming and yelling. They're often very tactical and manipulative and very vindictive. They'll leverage victimhood.

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They'll leverage a lot of different things. And again, cuts across men and women equally, he claims. Again, I don't know the data behind this book, but the book itself just feels like a very useful thing that everybody should know about. So I'm enjoying reading this book going, oh, my God, I wish I had this book years ago.

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Plus, I'm realizing like, oh, yeah, like we always hear this, like most of our problems come from a very small set of people and things.

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So we tend to call them narcissists or sociopaths or psycho, you know, but those labels, while very useful in the clinic, I think have been overused in the general public. And like, we're not clinicians, we're not diagnosing anybody. And so, but. Difficult people that can ruin your life abound, but it turns out it's only about 10%.

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And it has some very specific protocols of how to deal with the people who are more outwardly aggressive versus play victim, et cetera. Very useful book.

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If they're in the 90%.

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Take a year.

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Yes.

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Oh, I've definitely experienced that. And it's, and again, I think we are often, I mean, you mentioned that the relationship between erotic and manipulative and crazy or just erotic and crazy. I think there's also that when we finally receive the sorts of, I don't know, love or affection, it's not always sex. It's not always sexual, right?

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Like somebody like, I don't know, like rubbing your feet or paying, you know, paying a little extra attention to what you say or something for some people. That's intoxicating.

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Yeah, it almost feels like a parental type of care that we're probably wired to look for. I mean, I always marvel at this and also just kind of shake my head and go, why? Why did God design us this way? But, you know, the circuitry in our brain that creates infant-child attachment is the same circuitry that is repurposed for all other relationships in adulthood.

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It's not like you get your childhood attachment stuff and then you go, okay, well, you're like 15, 16, you're moving on in the world, you're hitting puberty, you're starting to date a bit, whatever. Now let's work with a different set of relationships A different set of algorithms? No. It's the same set of algorithms repurposed.

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We know this based on the studies of infant parent attachment and on the basis – or infant caretaker and on the basis of studies of romantic love. It's the same circuitry. So you're using – a set of algorithms and circuitry that were designed for one thing in a very different context.

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Yeah. I, you know, I, uh, I've learned so much recently about just how it is that we can lose our vision of other people. And I think this thing that we hear, like manipulation, it often sounds like, oh, it's really tactical, someone's rubbing their hands.

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I think the really tricky part about it is I do think that most people in the world are just doing their best to feel safe, to get their needs met. I think there are very few evil people.

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But in this sort of pattern of repurposing childhood attachment patterns and then people bringing that forward into their adult attachment patterns, I think what ends up happening is that, you know, people, quote unquote, trying to get their needs met, oftentimes like the worst ones.

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Sometimes it's called trauma bonding, but they kind of go lock and key or somebody identify somebody that's really healthy and they're like them. I'm going to latch onto them because like they're healthy and they can, and you'd say, well, the healthy person should be able to spot all the landmines.

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But if somebody is able to really tap into like something you didn't have or something that just feels like oxygen, right? Goodness gracious. Like you could be the smartest, most,

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you know well acclimated person with the best parents or whatever upbringing which most people aren't but you know some people do have that and still fall kind of you know into this uh fog that is like gosh like you want to be with this person but it's but it doesn't feel good you know that that mishmash and i think the thing i've learned clearly is that when you feel that trepidation

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Run, don't walk. The gray zone is actually the thing to just exit fast. Gray doesn't mean hover and check it out and run some experiments here.

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Get out. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Run. Just run.

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Just run.

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my knife all day

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Yeah, that certainly hasn't been my pattern. Not that I had the hardest upbringing, but it was, I would say, easier than some, harder than others. But I always had great friends, great friendships. But my threat sensing, it wasn't always great in romantic relationships, for sure. I've also had some great relationships.

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I think what tends to happen is that if we're very busy, we have this tendency to... to be easily manipulated by certain things that are unusual that we, just that really feel like extra oxygen to us or just feel so nourishing. And because I think people always or often default to sex, like it's all about sex.

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Depending on who you are, like sex is either more or less readily available to you, right? Like I think that for some people it's nurturing, like a certain form of nurturing. And then there's also this thing of we know how to survive certain things so they don't feel as dangerous. So people who've had like very,

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you know, overbearing or complicated childhoods or abusive childhoods, sometimes they're set to perceive danger at way too high a threshold. Right. Right. So their perception of what's dangerous is like way too high. And so they walk into even still dangerous situations, but they don't think of them as dangerous. And they're like, oh, I can navigate this.

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They're good at navigating difficult people or they're good at navigating, you know, borderline people or something like that.

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Do you think it's more of a problem with people that like excitement and adventure and are super curious but like excitement and adventure? So I'm thinking comics. I'm thinking people who like high intensity sports that they seek relationships that are higher intensity because, you know, I've received great advice from people like Rick who said, you know, your relationship should be a sanctuary.

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That should be where peace is. And actually, I don't pay a lot of attention to Instagram kind of little mottos and things, but someone sent me one that I was like, yes, that feels so true, which is that men eventually settle where they feel peace.

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It's this idea that anything could, like, anything could happen.

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Well, so... Don't they all come from wolves? Yeah, they all originate from wolves, but then dog selection has been twofold, mainly for phenotype, like morphology, the shape, we call it, and then temperament. So there's this chart, it might be a little hard to find online, about the dosing of wolf versus mastiff genetics, essentially. And there's a bunch of other things woven into dog genetics.

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Yeah, you and I both have a lot of tattoos, but I've intentionally kept it off the hands and neck and face.

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And things have changed a lot. Like, I was born in 75, right? So I'm heading towards 50 quick. Back then, tattoos on the face was crazy. One of my childhood heroes, and somehow by the grace of God, he's become a close friend of mine, is Tim Armstrong, lead singer from Rancy. He has a tattoo of a spider web on his head and a spider on his neck.

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And I remember seeing him when I was a kid at a show and being like, that dude's scary. And Lars Fredrickson from Rancy says skunks on his forehead. Yeah. They're super nice guys. I mean, they're- Travis Barker's a super nice guy.

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Yeah, Tim and Travis do transplants. And like, you see those guys, you're like, whoa, now I think it shifted a little bit. But back then I remember thinking like, that's gnarly. That's a tough guy.

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You know, and certainly Lars is a tough guy and Tim too. But the, you know, I remember seeing it like you only saw it on bikers and like gnarly punk rockers.

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A mohawk used to be, you're not getting a job.

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A nose ring used to, remember when a nose ring or an eyebrow ring, you go into Starbucks and the person would have it covered up? Oh, like a Band-Aid? They weren't allowed to have it.

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Now I see medical students with eyebrow rings and nose rings and stuff. So things have definitely changed.

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Well, a friend of mine who's admittedly is a psychologist said, you know, tattoos are largely an expression of what you feel on the inside put to the outside. And I was like, that sounds good.

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There's some Rogan tattoos out there. I saw a Lex Friedman face tattoo.

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That's so good. So good. He just had a birthday. Oh, you did too. Happy birthday. Thank you very much. And Lex, happy birthday.

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Yeah.

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So a couple more things about olfaction. And by the way, I love this stuff. This is so wild because it's the most primitive part of our brain and nervous system. We were chemical sensors before we were light sensors. Right. We were sensing chemical environments. Is this a safe chemical environment? And we evolved from that.

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We know that, for instance, memories that are associated with smell, like people will say, the smell of my grandmother's kitchen or somebody's hands, my grandfather's hands, those memories stick with us longer than anything because the olfactory bulb has a direct line to a couple of structures in the brain. So we have an olfactory bulb, which is the main thing for smell.

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Then there's something called the accessory olfactory bulb. It sort of divides into primitive smells that are like aversive, get away quick. Those tend to go through a really fast line through the accessory olfactory bulb. Takes us straight to the amygdala, to the piriform cortex. It says, move your body and face and away from that. Like I didn't sit there and...

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On the small cells, it's like, boom, get away. It's like a reflex. It's like in fish, there's this thing called the Maldoner neuron, where you touch on one side of the body, what does the fish do? Goes the opposite direction. Big, huge neuron, hardwired circuit.

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They're sensing, electrosensing at a distance. And these Maldner neurons are incredible. You touch, boom, the fish heads the opposite direction. It doesn't go like, oh, are you another friendly fish you want to mate? They go, I'm out of here. Oh, and then they check you out, right? And so it's a reflex for safety. The olfactory system has these two pathways, the olfactory bulb for kind of like, oh,

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First of all, cool point, dogs are among, I don't know if they are the most, maybe whales are the most, but they are among the greatest variation in body size within a given species. You think of Chihuahua and Great Dane. And it looks like it's dosing of the genes controlling IGF-1. Which makes sense, a growth hormone. But kind of wild, right? We got some big humans and some smaller humans.

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Is this Black Rifle coffee? And then there's the smelling salt one that goes through the accessory olfactory bulb straight to the amygdala, which is associated with threat detection and other things, straight to the piriform cortex and then to a motor circuit. Boom, turn the head the other way, get out, exhale. Don't inhale more. Aversive, okay?

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So the thing about smell is that it's got these very hardwired components, okay? And they're set up for either a pedative, like, hmm, let me explore more, sniff in more, as opposed to aversive behaviors, like get me the hell away. And these brain areas are among the more ancient brain areas.

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Now, when I say ancient, people nowadays start picking apart it like, well, it's not just limbic and cortex. The cortex is part of limbic. That's all true. But if you look at our brains and you look at the brains of like a turtle or even a snake, all the stuff we're talking about right here are all ancient. they're not exactly the same, but they're all present.

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When you get to humans, what you really add is a lot of cerebral cortex for the, thinking and association stuff, like, you know, I've been here before, so I'm a little bit less, you know, like looking around as much as I did last time, like things that, you know, context-dependent learning, context-dependent stuff.

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Whereas all the highly reflexive stuff is going to be hardwired, circuitry you find in every animal, every person. And you need to divide things into three different responses in humans, okay, in order to survive. Yum, I'm going to move toward it. Yuck, I'm going to move away. And meh. There's basically only three motor responses to anything, yum, yuck, or meh.

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Now there's a matter of degrees, like you might see somebody you really like, you want to, I don't know, Joey Diaz or something, you know? You see him, you want to run over, see him, right? So there's an appetitive circuit moves you towards it.

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See something that's a little odd, you might pause, I don't know what that is, or something aversive, like something happens in the parking lot and you're like, I'm getting the hell out of here. So the brain, as complex as it is, needs to divide things into one of three different motor responses, forward, pause, or retreat. I was playing with Jamie's dog out there before.

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I was like, I couldn't get him to back up. That's what's kind of cool about the bulldog. You charge him and he just goes, I'm like 20 times his size. But he's just like.

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Right. So you said about why the smelling salts and adrenaline. So here's the deal. When we have this aversive response, the move away, the yuck response, get me away, there's a parallel response in the brain and body of the release of epinephrine, adrenaline. It's the same thing. Sorry for the dual naming. Epinephrine and adrenaline are the same thing? Same thing.

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Long, complicated, boring history as to why it's named two things. Noradrenaline, norepinephrine, same molecule. So let's just call it adrenaline for sake of simplicity. Adrenaline is released from the adrenals in the body and it's released from a... an area in the brain called the locus coeruleus, which sends out a bunch of little wires, axons, to sprinkler the brain with adrenaline.

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And both systems work in parallel. So when you smell something aversive, it goes, inhale, ugh, okay, olfactory, certain olfactory neurons cue that to the accessory olfactory bulb, bam, straight to the amygdala. Amygdala sends a signal, brah, down to the adrenals atop the kidneys. They release adrenaline. Sends, believe it or not, a signal up to locus coeruleus.

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It sprinklers the brain with adrenaline. And you just had, within a couple hundred milliseconds, you just got a parallel adrenaline response in brain and body that allows you to do what more easily? Move. Now you're ready for motion. You're ready for movement.

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In fact, I'm sure if you put that under the deepest sleeper's nose in the middle of the night, they're going to wake up like a gunshot went off.

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Not like dogs. Not like dogs.

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Yeah, because one of the best painkillers is adrenaline.

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Because you've been hit hard before. Isn't it amazing how little it hurts when it happens and how much it hurts later?

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It's crazy.

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Yeah.

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I've seen these images of somebody just melt. It looks like they melt. And it looks like they take a few paces, and they're ready to counterpunch or something, and then it hits slowly. I don't know.

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So it's like they're just hiding. This is like slow, deep pain.

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It almost looks like the... It almost looks like his knee just kind of... Yeah, watch this, watch this.

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I'm always amazed how people can kick standing so closely.

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I'm always watching their eyes. And he fires eyes. It's amazing to me, like years ago I saw a Mayweather fight and it was obviously on pay-per-view and he was just getting paid for sure, right? That was his thing. But it was always amazing to me in the slow-mo like where he would slip punches by like centimeters.

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They may think that like his depth perception and the depth perception of fighters must Successful fighters must just be exquisite because I mean like slipping at that distance with just a chin movement That's one thing but it's also a pattern recognition.

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So do you think it's conscious? You know, I'm obsessed with this notion of unconscious genius, like, you know, like different domains of super high performance where the people don't exactly know how they do it, but they do it.

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as his momentum is going this way and i'll catch him that way and it'll double the power of the punch or the kick and did somebody teach it to you because there there's like a conscious awareness of how you do it i guess what i'm yeah i think this notion of pattern recognition it's interesting because earlier we're talking about pattern recognition for finding people are lying right you have this pattern recognition thing that you know you're not saying it's perfect but like you can sense there's something there's things that and so it's a combination of things that we aren't always aware of that's the unconscious part of the

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unconscious genius thing that I'm referring to. And so there's this idea like our brains are pattern recognition prediction machines. And so do you think like, in other words, two questions was, do you think Mayweather was ever pulled aside and said, listen, pay attention to their left shoulder and keep your eye on his right eye. I'm just 100%. Okay. And were you ever told, Hey,

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So I have a colleague at Stanford, Sue McConnell, who— Jozo?

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If his left leg comes up, that means he's bouncing on his right. So you need to prepare a counterattack or an attack.

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It's like total economy of movement.

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It almost looks like it's sped up by one and a half times.

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Yeah, I mean, I'm not qualified to rank people, but I watched when he was making that ascent towards it. It ended up being 50-0.

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So this colleague at Stanford, Sue McConnell, she's won best in show at some of the big events for poolies. She breeds horses and she's into that whole. What's a poolie? The poolies are the ones that look like Rastafarian dogs. You know, their eyes are covered. They're amazing. They're amazing. And she had this chart on her door. I was going to meet with her about something.

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Because he's the promoter also.

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This is his domain.

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I guess he's earned that right.

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I've seen clips of him running in the middle of the night.

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She handles a lot of undergraduate education at Stanford University. And I see this chart and the chart essentially shows the dosing of kind of the original wolf line genes versus more mastiff heavy genetic background. And there are a lot of breeds on this chart, but essentially, shows up in the following way. The dogs that are more sight and scent, right, and with longer snouts.

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So he's like under no threat whatsoever. He's enjoying life. Well, people like to be angry. I'm always calling to mind a study. I'll keep this really brief. But there's a famous study by a guy named Robert Heath.

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who was a neurosurgeon, and he put a bunch of stimulating electrodes into the brain of some humans getting neurosurgery, and he offered them the opportunity to stimulate any area they wanted. And he stimulates some areas, and they'd feel happy or giddy or drunk or sexual arousal or whatever.

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You know, the one area that all, there were only three subjects, but for human neurosurgery, that's not a terrible subject number. area that all three of them preferred vastly over the other areas to be stimulated evoked the sense of anger and frustration. Really? Yeah, people like to be angry. Which is why Twitter is so popular. Yeah. And to some extent, Instagram.

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So I'm observing something interesting about the smelling salts. It's definitely like, brrack, hits hard. And then you feel really good afterwards. You can feel it in your body. You can feel it in my body. And then I notice there's kind of a hunger for it. Right, like another hit. Yeah, like maybe in 20 minutes or so.

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I've never tried cocaine.

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Good for you.

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Yeah, I wonder... I doubt that hits the dopamine circuit, but in a little valuable science tidbit, we hear so much about dopamine, adrenaline. Look, there are three molecules. They're called the catecholamines. Dopamine, epinephrine, adrenaline, and norepinephrine, noradrenaline. And they are actually... Some are biochemical derivatives of others, and they are cousins. They work like a little...

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#2195 - Andrew Huberman

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like a little clan of molecules to raise alertness and focus and drive. I think the great Robert Sapolsky said it best. He said, dopamine is not about the pursuit of pleasure. It's about the pleasure of pursuit.

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#2195 - Andrew Huberman

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that makes sense that's why he's Robert Sapolsky yeah it's all about the journey it's right so you combine motivation with adrenaline which gets your body in a position to move better and noradrenaline which kind of works in between those two it's a little more complicated not worth going into but they work as kind of like a gang of three to raise alertness directional motivation and go and so I wouldn't be surprised if there was a little bit of a dopaminergic aspect to those smelling salts I'd have to look it up and see

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Like a shepherd, have more, have a dosing of the wolf gene still in them. Then you get to the shorter snout, kind of snub nose like the French bulldog, the English bulldog, and some mastiff breeds, pugs, right? And the amount of wolf in them is like nil to none. And then what's happening- But wait a minute, but they all start off as wolves.

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But I certainly like it. It feels good.

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#2195 - Andrew Huberman

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That sounds weird. And I like, you know, that's why I've never tried cocaine or amphetamine. Like, I like upstates, as they call them.

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Oh, yeah.

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I've never tried it. Try to get organized. I'm trying to think of that. There's some, you know, there was a chart out on Twitter. We were just talking about Twitter where all the different nootropics or drugs. Let's not call them smart drugs, but things that can enhance alertness, things like alpha-GPC. As you know, 600 milligrams alpha-GPC.

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#2195 - Andrew Huberman

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I don't care who it is that's like, where's the double-blind placebo-controlled study that shows it raises alertness and focus? Look, as much as I believe in science, you don't need a double-blind placebo-controlled study to know that a swift kick in the shin hurts and that 600 milligrams of alpha-GPC is going to make you more alert.

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#2195 - Andrew Huberman

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Right, right. And so they exist. And certainly that's one that I would put kind of high on the tier of things for if you want alertness and focus. It's certainly more benign than a lot of prescription drugs that create alertness.

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Not as many. Theanine takes away the jitters, like 100 to 200 milligrams of theanine will take away the jitters associated with stimulants, which is why it's now in a lot of energy drinks. So you'll see alpha GPC, theanine, sometimes L-tyrosine, which is a precursor to dopamine.

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#2195 - Andrew Huberman

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But there were a couple of things on that list, including prescription drugs like modafinil, for instance, which was originally designed for the treatment of narcolepsy.

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#2195 - Andrew Huberman

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Both. Yeah. So for the treatment of narcolepsy, it also has been shown to improve alertness and cognitive function in sleep deprived individuals. So you can imagine military finding that very useful.

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Correct.

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This is a great one.

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This is a great one, and it fits right in with what Matt Walker says to do the opposite to fall asleep, where you wash your face with warm water, take a hot shower. I go in the sauna. Or go in the sauna. Everyone says, well, you're heating up your body. You need to cool down to fall asleep.

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#2195 - Andrew Huberman

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But you heat up the surface of your body, and the medial preoptic area of your hypothalamus, which is your brain's thermostat, says, hey, the surface of the body is heating up. What should I do? Cool down my core temperature, and that puts you to sleep.

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So they have some genes that relate to the wolf origin lineage, right? But over time they've been bred, for instance, the English bulldog.

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I do that if I'm late in the day and I'm tired. It's not a problem, but I end with kind of a warmish shower. If I want to be alert, I end on cold. If I want to go to sleep, I end with warm.

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And when you get in the cold... The surface of the body gets cold. That's kind of a no brainer. And the core body temperature goes up because the medial preoptic area, your brain's thermostat says, wait, the surface of the body is cooling down. I'm going to heat up. And waking up in the morning is. largely the consequence of body temperature going up.

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#2195 - Andrew Huberman

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So why do you wake up more quickly in the cold? Well, body temperature goes up more quickly. Also, big shot of adrenaline from cold water. Nobody escapes the adrenaline from cold water, at least upon getting in, as long as it's cold enough. And last time you picked on me about how warm I'm keeping my ice bath. Can't even be called an ice bath. So my cold plunge is now set at mid 40s. That's better.

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Getting better. But I still go into the sauna at 210, 220.

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#2195 - Andrew Huberman

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Yeah, you're probably in the 30s.

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Beast mode kind of.

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#2195 - Andrew Huberman

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Well, and the flow breaks up the thermal layer on the outside of your body. When you're sitting in the cold plunge, I always say those stoic things where people are in the cold plunge, real still, looking tough. Tell that person to sift their arms around. Let that cold water get in your armpits. Well, what's happening is you're breaking up the thermal layer that keeps you a little bit warmer.

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#2195 - Andrew Huberman

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Yes, that's my understanding as well.

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#2195 - Andrew Huberman

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This is why we huddle in there because it's not like you're making yourself like it's like you're wearing a jacket. If you move or if the water is moving. Yeah. Much more effective.

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#2195 - Andrew Huberman

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That's right. That's my understanding. But then as they were crossbred with different- So for instance, like the English bulldog, that line came from the crossing of essentially pug, like short snout, right? But with mastiffs or with dogs with heavy mastiff genetic dosing. Why? Well, the idea was the short snout gives them a good lever for holding onto things, right?

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#2195 - Andrew Huberman

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Man, I can't believe I'm going to admit this publicly. You know what I do? I got two little rubber duckies in there. One's a tougher looking rubber ducky and his name is Rogan. I'm not kidding. I shot a video of this. I'll send it to you. My producer's going to kill me. And then there's another one and that's Huberman. And it's you basically teasing me about what a wuss I am.

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And I do that for the entire time I'm in the cold plunge. So I forget that I'm in the cold plunge. And then at the end you go, okay, you can get out now. And I'm like, okay.

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Well, this gets to something that I know we've talked a little bit about before offline, not on microphone, which is doing hard things translates to an ability to do hard things and probably translates, provided it doesn't kill you, to a longer life.

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So there's a brain area that most neuroscientists aren't aware of called the anterior mid cingulate cortex. Scientists who are in the know know about it. I teach neuroanatomy, medical students at Stanford. It's an area that we cover in passing, but there are a lot of brain areas. You can't get to everything.

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But in the last couple of years, there've been studies of this area, the anterior mid cingulate cortex, that make it super important for everybody to know about, not just neuroscientists. And here's the deal. A colleague of mine at Stanford, Joe Parvizzi, he's a neurosurgeon.

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He's in there stimulating different brain areas, including anterior mid cingulate cortex and areas near it in human patients while they're awake, preparing them for neurosurgery for other reasons. Stimulates anterior mid cingulate cortex. And what do all people who have their anterior mid cingulate cortex report? They feel like there's something about to happen.

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Something's kind of looming, a challenge, a storm, some will report it as a storm or a physical challenge, but their overall sensation is one that they want to lean into it. They want to challenge it. Now, this area has subsequently been imaged in people who are successful dieters, it grows larger. In people that fail at a dieting or nutrition program, it gets smaller.

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People that embrace a new form of exercise, and here's the key point that they don't want to do, this area gets bigger. People that are just doing things that they enjoy doing does not change in shape or size. Now here's where it gets even more interesting. The anterior mid cingulate cortex is larger in volume in a group of people called super-agers, okay?

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That's a bit of a misnomer because it implies they age faster. They actually age more slowly as it relates to cognitive decline. The slope of cognitive decline is not as steep in these people, meaning they're holding on to cognitive abilities longer than other people into older age.

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And the universal quality among these super agers is not just a larger anterior mid cingulate cortex, but that they challenge themselves to do things that are challenging and they kind of don't want to do or really don't want to do. So when we hear, oh, you know, people should do crossword puzzles to maintain their memory, probably good to keep some cognitive flexibility going.

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But if you love crossword puzzles, you're not going to grow your anterior mid cingulate cortex. If you love 45 degrees in the cold plunge after an hour long run. in the hills, which I do, probably not gonna do much to grow this area. If you really don't wanna do something and you do it, this area gets bigger.

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And it's got inputs and outputs from all of these different brain areas that make all of this make sense. Like the dopamine system, like the learning and memory system, like the areas of the brain that say, no, I'm gonna, retreat from that, it's aversive, but you push yourself to do something that you don't want to do, this area gets bigger.

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And the best part is it translates to an ability to do harder things elsewhere. This to me, I get obviously super excited about because it's nested in human data and animal data in real world examples of dieting and exercise and aging and longevity and all of that. And it speaks to much of what you've talked about on this podcast for years and years, which is do hard things.

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And the mastiff genes lead to, and we know this for sure, both of the droopiness of the face, it also relates to less presence of pain receptors in the front of the body. Okay, so if you've ever had a bulldog where you know their feet can be really sensitive, but their face, you can hold onto those jowls.

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It will give you an ability to do other hard things. But if you love doing deadlifts, Honestly, even sets to failure on those deadlifts, enjoy them, benefit from them, all the wonderful things that come with doing deadlifts, great. But you should probably also do something that you don't enjoy doing if you have an interest in the kind of benefits that we're talking about.

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Right, and movement itself, like physical movement or cognitive movement if you're learning new things like comedy, preparing new things or learning poetry or drawing. Like I used to draw a lot, I've started drawing again, carry around this notebook everywhere. I'm not gonna show the drawings, they're just for me.

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But pushing myself to do something that I enjoy, but that like there's a barrier there. Are you any good? I mean, I do anatomical drawings.

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Sorry, these are just my personal, these are actually just, this is my journal book notes. But I've actually, I used to post my drawings on Instagram. That's how I started. In 2019, I wasn't thinking about having a podcast. I was just posting pictures of the retina. Talking about the retina. When did we meet? So 2019, I started posting on Instagram. 2020, I came on this podcast for the first time.

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But you were in LA at that time.

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And yeah. And then I went on Lex's podcast a little bit later and then he goes, you should start a podcast. So I started January 21.

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They're just for fun. They're just for fun. Not bad at all. But I like to use them to teach. So they're not, listen, I'm, I'm no DaVinci, but that's pretty fucking good actually. But the point I'm obsessed with this thing that somewhere between perfect accuracy and total representation of biology, like a brain or a set of cells.

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And at the other end of the continuum, like ball and stick, there's like a perfect sweet spot for teaching. And so what I'm doing there is what I do in the classroom. I go, okay, listen, we're going to talk about how muscle releases a micro RNA that helps you burn fat.

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My bulldog, Costello, would go picking up stuff at the beach and he'd occasionally get a fish hook in his mouth and it looked super painful and he's like . So not very many pain sensors in the face. They have a disruption or a mutation in the gene that controls the elasticity of skin. That's why they have the droopiness. And they are brachycephalic, short snout.

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And then I kind of remind people like there's fat, there's a, you know, so I don't want too much detail, but I don't want too little detail.

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And of course that's not anatomically correct. Like the nerves don't spit out of the tip of the finger. Right. But when you're trying to teach. Dude, that's good eye. Yeah, that's really good. Again, I'm not trying to be Da Vinci. I just want people to learn the information.

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It's hard to separate nature and nurture there, but honestly, I think there's something there.

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People are going to think I'm weird for saying this, but- I don't care. I am weird. I'm going to say it anyway. Schultz, the way he moves, like how lithe he is, and his parents are like dancers and performers, right?

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Yeah.

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Like just his movements are so atypical. And like, he's, he's like... It's like watching him is cool. Like he looks cool the way he moves. He's free. Yeah. And there's a skateboarder named Jimmy Wilkins who's like breaking every barrier on skateboarding. And he actually uses his knees to contact the board and move the board while his hands are free.

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And he's a smaller guy, real small, real wide, super loose ankles. And I said to him, like, what do your parents do? And he goes, my mom's a ballerina and my dad's an orchestra conductor.

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this guy's using his knees on the board so like he does everything not everything but he does a lot of things hands free at mock speed for people in skateboarding they probably just want to see flips and 900 varials and that stuff's cool but he makes everything look so good I mean Jimmy for those that are in the know Jimmy Wilkins is the next is like the next like Tony will say Tony Hawk everyone will say like watching Jimmy look see the whole thing here is that Jimmy's

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is like perfect poetry. So his back knee is often used to stabilize the board because he's got that hip looseness that you were talking about earlier. That's incredible. He won X Games last year, not this year. This year he took third.

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Yeah, he's big on the nicotine. I'm trying to get him to quit the nicotine because he loves the nicotine. Why are you getting him to quit? I don't have a problem with people taking nicotine. Pouches? It's a vasoconstrictor. It raises blood pressure. As long as you're healthy in other ways. I just think that I see people go from one pouch to a canister a day.

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I can do like half a piece of Nicorette.

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That's a lot. I mean, it seems like you're good at keeping things in that useful, but not excessive domain.

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That's why they're not very good breathers. And they essentially have sleep apnea. That's why they have a bunch of rubs.

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They do. So they do snore a lot. I can attest.

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Well, he asked me to help him quit.

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Well, he was doing better with his health, and then he posted that photo of himself in the wetsuit. Come on, Bert. Like, get with it.

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It's crazy. And so what were dogs being selected for? Well, unless you're showing dogs, dogs were selected for the kind of work they were capable of doing. Like sheepdogs are great herders, this kind of thing. But when people essentially designed bred up and crossbred to get the English bulldog or the old English bulldog. which doesn't have as much of an underwrite.

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No, he's looking more like a melted candle.

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I feel bad making fun of him, but I'm not making fun of him.

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I'm just worried.

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I'm just worried about his health. Oh, yeah, that's not good, Bert. I'm worried about your health, Bert.

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Oh, man. I must say I thoroughly enjoyed your live comedy on Netflix. Oh, thank you.

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Watched it three times.

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It was so good. I watched the first one with my girlfriend. We watched it as it was happening. Then I watched it with my friend Tim when he was out. He's out on tour. Like Green Day Rants, all these 90s bands smashing pumpkins. They're out on tour, like stadiums with 90,000 people.

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It's crazy. It's crazy. I went out because I'm a big Rancid fan, and I like the other guys too, but I'm a big, big Rancid fan. I was like, holy cow, people love this stuff.

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Again, anyway, we watched it again there, and then I've watched it again. I will say it felt very cathartic to me. I don't know how it felt for you, but it felt really cathartic.

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The subject matter and also, like, the next day was pure, like, delight and just baffled and shocked all at the same time when, on Twitter, I see a clip taken completely out of context about... a bit about taking things out of context. It's like life had like looped back on itself. You were talking about things being taken out of context and they were taking it out of context.

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They had like cut it. And I was like, wait, wait, wait, I remember that very differently. Cause I remember things that I hear pretty well. And I was like, went back and I was like, wait, he's talking about things being taken out of context and they're taking it out of context.

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Or people are trying to politicize something.

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So I had an old English bulldog. So whereas the English bulldog is elbows out, so inward rotation, the thing we're all supposed to not do, an underwrite. The old English bulldog looks like this.

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Or they're trying to get clicks off your name.

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Wait, what?

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I mean, you and I have been mashed up on other stuff and AI, and I don't want to, like you said, we don't want to draw attention. They got taken off the internet, thank goodness, but it was bullshit. It was AI and mashup.

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They did that about politics?

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Looks more like a pit bull. And they were originally used for bull baiting, for grabbing onto the nose of the bull, getting the bull super aggressive, and then being able to let go and get called off and coming back to their protector. And then basically then it was to rile up the bull, right, for bullfighting. So you can still find some of this stuff online online.

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The part about this that's so frustrating to me is that at some point, especially as a scientist, that's data selection. If you look at data and you look at scientific experimentation, it starts with a question, you generate a hypothesis, you collect data, you publish the results, and you get to state your conclusions. Now let's talk about what you're talking about.

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In the world of science, I don't think there's a lot of outright data fraud, but a lot of experiments that don't work, people come up with excuses to eliminate those data.

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Oh, there certainly is some data fraud.

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There's certainly some data fraud, and there's a range of underlying reasons. One of the more common reasons that people don't talk about, which is something to really strongly inoculate in laboratories against, is when a laboratory is known for doing very, very good work, Oftentimes, the graduate students and postdocs that go there feel like they need to give the boss the result.

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So sometimes it's unbeknownst to the person running the lab. There have been a lot of cases in recent years of papers being discovered as having major issues. And that's like, well, do you go after the lab head or do you go after the person who did it? Lab heads are responsible for everything in their lab. AI is helping with this because you can scan data and look at things. But, you know.

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Ambition is a dangerous thing. You know if somebody puts ambition ahead of accuracy sure So there's that kind of thing and then there's outright data fraud I mean there was this nanotechnologist guy from some years back.

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I think his last name was shown who had like 20 papers in science and nature in two years and it turns out he wasn't even bothering to he was fabricating data the papers were all retracted and I don't know what he's doing now, but the noise plots, the random noise plots in these papers were the way he got caught.

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What it turned out is that, I mean, I'm chuckling because it's like, he was so lazy, ambitious, but so lazy that he didn't even bother to use new random noise plots from one paper to the next. So somebody said, wait, random, random should be random. Why is it the same in these two papers? Boom. And then the whole thing unraveled eventually.

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So he was particularly, he was particularly ambitious, lazy, and that was outright fraud. There are all sorts of

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other cases and things like that and you know there's people who make this their sport to talk about most scientists are trying to get the correct answers i do believe that most scientists have good faith they're trying to get the answer but it's hard science is hard now what you're talking about to me sounds like People deliberately grabbing from the palette of paints.

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That is the words that are spoken by anybody on the internet, especially people with podcasts, you or me or anybody else. And then literally cutting and pasting things together to create a story, which is fiction.

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You can find some old descriptions, in some cases even some old videos, but of course now bull baiting with dogs is not allowed, right? Dog fighting, everybody looks down on. But then if you start asking about the toy breeds, what were the toy breeds, quote unquote, designed for or bred for? They were basically designed to sit next to you.

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I haven't seen that one.

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I remember one of you and Elon, several perhaps. Yeah, so I know that.

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So these are actual spoken words clutched together.

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I've heard you're endorsing and not endorsing all sorts of people.

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Some of them will seek out, you know, like the terrier breeds will find vermin. They'll go find rats. They're really good ratters, actually.

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They've unified the belts.

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Yeah, completely. out of context in the example you gave. And certainly I'm familiar with examples where context is completely cut off at the point where it leads to a false conclusion.

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Like where the story is completely different. The reason I gave the counter example of science is, you know, when you're trained as a scientist, you're trained to try and parse what's real and what's not real and give the best version of that that you can, and then you are allowed to state your conclusions. But I have a question.

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Jack Russells are great ratters. The West Highland Terriers, the Westies, the Cairn Terriers, they're always, they're really great hunters for little things, right?

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At what point do you think the general public will come to understand that this is the way that a lot of things that they see out there are constructed, to some degree or another, and stop actually believing it?

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Do you think it's all boomers?

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Sorry, I mean, do you think that all boomers believe in the traditional media?

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And the amazing thing is that when you start looking at the different breeds, it was basically humans selecting on the basis of mostly behavior and phenotype shape and thinking, oh, like I want a smaller dog that will just sit near me or I want a small dog that will that will like kill rats and sit near me. No, I want a big dog that's going to guard. So you start breeding for pain tolerance.

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Well, I'll tell you, you know, I'll non reluctantly tell you, you know, my dad and I over the years, like we had some early issues and we resolve them and we're good now. But when some not so kind press came out about me, they interviewed a lot of people, interviewed a lot of people from my high school class and friends and coworkers and then cherry picked for the story they wanted to create.

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But they talked to my dad. OK. And I would not put my dad into the political camp that you described or any camp, really. But he's a first generation immigrant, moved here from Argentina, did his Ph.D. under a scholarship from the from the Navy. You know, I was like story of a immigrant who came here and became a scientist.

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There wasn't a lot of science to do in in Argentina. There's not a lot of funding for it. Right. So came here. I would say that.

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when they reached out to him he was like oh yeah reporter was super nice you know they asked me all these questions and then he called me he was like i'm shocked i didn't say that that was completely flipped and twisted and that you know and you got to record those kind of conversations and i said it's okay you know it's okay in fact and that changed his perception i can't speak for him but based on conversations we've had since changed his perception he's like i can't believe this that they would sort of leverage this for a false narrative

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Yeah. Well, that was made clear by the fact that many people reach out and like, I had the best conversation with this person or my former, when I was a kid, I grew up skateboarding and I rode for this, this brand, you know, thunder and spitfire. And my team manager was interviewed and, and then he called me afterwards and he said, yeah, it was kind of weird. Like I kept telling him the story that,

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you know, that they had heard about you on podcasts over and over and they kept poking and probing, trying to get me. And he said, that's what happened. Andrew called me that day and said, help me, I need to get out of this place, et cetera, et cetera. And he was like, I don't get it. And I was like, listen, Sharugi, like that's what we call him, Steve Ruge.

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I go, listen, like, thanks for talking to her, but you know,

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it's just the way it works it's not about like they weren't really interested in the truth they were interested in pulling out certain language an ex-girlfriend of mine said the same thing like i talked to her and i told her like what a great relationship we had and then like what she printed kind of alluded to something kind of slightly different and i just said listen that you know that thanks for talking to me you know like the goal is to collect a bunch of data like this is where i compare it to science my domain compare take a bunch of data cherry pick only the things that

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could work if those only were true, and some of them are just outright lies, and then publish that, that is data fraud. Like pharmaceutical studies. Like many, like many. And at the same time, we're enjoying nicotine here, or you are, because I will say I'm not in defense of the pharmaceutical industry, nor am I on attack of them. But there are certain things that push through traditional science.

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I start breeding for loyalty and aggression. And a guy that I think was on your podcast a long time ago, Sam Sheridan.

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You get... great information about dosage and safety. Look at Ozempic, right? I get asked about this all the time. I don't know how this became politicized. I will say, if you do things to offset the muscle loss for certain people, reducing their appetite with it might be a useful tool. It's expensive, is there dependence?

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Those are important issues, but we learn one thing for sure from Ozempic, Monjaro, et cetera, The main cause of the obesity crisis is people eat too many calories. On average, about 3,500 calories per day, and they don't move enough, they don't exercise enough. And then we can get into what they eat, et cetera. We could have a discussion about seed oils if we really want to cause some friction.

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I don't like seed oils, I don't eat them, but I'm not aware of any randomized controlled trial that says that they're bad. I just don't like them. I like olive oil and butter, and I like cooking beef and beef fat. It tastes better, and I feel better. I feel better, and that's enough of a reason for me.

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So there's this whole thing about ratios of omega-3s versus the omega-6s, and you get a lot of omega-6s with the seed oils. Olive oil is good for us. I think I will conclude that. I think drinking less alcohol or no alcohol is good for you. I think I'm of the belief that high quality meat is good for you. I'm also of the belief that fruits and vegetables are good for you.

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Yeah. In a fighter's heart, there's a great chapter where he talks about I think it's dog fighting in the Philippines. And he talks about how brutal that sport is, which indeed it is. But he talks about.

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I think all the data point to these things. I think that there isn't an abundance of data yet that says seed oils are bad. And I think Lane Norton would support that statement. And he's kind of my go-to in terms of what the randomized control trials say, right? But in my experience, I feel better when I'm not eating them. So I choose personally not to eat them.

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And frankly, there may be something to it, right? I mean, now we're hearing all about microplastics. We're hearing about all that. But when it comes to the GLP-1 agonist, right? I spent a lot of time on this, done two podcasts or more, one with an expert, one solo, et cetera. You know, of all the peptides that broke through, you know, we've talked about peptides, we've talked about more.

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There's this one peptide. glucagon like peptide one, that when raised to levels about a thousand fold over normal levels leads to massive suppression of appetite and people lose weight, which for some people is an emergency situation. They're really fat and there's nothing they can do to lose the weight and they're getting sicker and sicker.

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My hope would just be that those people would also try and eat correctly and exercise. And so the debate has become, is it good for you? Is it bad? Well, there's muscle loss. So offset the muscle loss, but let's be realistic.

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Yeah. Or come off the Ozempic Manjaro eventually by replacing your behaviors. You know, it's hard to move when you're I've never been big and overweight. But, you know, the way that Goggins talks about it or, you know, it's got to be uncomfortable. Like when you're feeling kind of just not great, like just to move, you can get injured easily.

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The love between the owner and the dog can predict, and of course the dog and the owner, it's reciprocal, one presumes, that the strength of that relationship predicts how hard the dog will fight for the owner. And he uses this as kind of a parallel construction for why, and you tell me if this is true or not, that...

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I would say one of the best ways to get and stay in great shape your whole life is, yes, exercise, eat right, et cetera. But also don't get badly hurt. That's a huge one that nobody talks about. And the number one way, in my opinion, to get badly hurt is do a workout that a friend suggests at 10 out of 10.

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Right.

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Like, I want to sweat a lot. You go in, you do a bunch of circuit training for an hour, and two days later, your shoulder's like, oh, boy.

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So, you know, I think there are a lot of themes here, but I'm not opposed to certain pharmaceuticals. I think certain people need drugs for ADHD, a lot don't. And dose response curves and lethal dose analysis and that kind of stuff is super valuable. What I don't like, because I don't think it's necessary, is when people default to the most expensive side effect, risky kind of reflexive option.

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Because I think that the basics, sunlight, exercise, you know, cardio and weight training. I mean, we're in a, like these things work. They work so well. They've always worked well and they'll always work well. And I also think there's great data emerging that they transform mental health. I mean, the data on resistance training two or three times a week and mental health is striking.

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I mean, you compare that to what people get from certain SSRIs and you're like, goodness sake, 45, 60 minutes a week, lift some heavy objects. You feel better.

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And I know you've talked about this recently and I'm kind of like hitting a bunch of things here, but I think a lot about this relationship between traditional science, FDA, NIH. I reviewed grants for the NIH for years until very recently I was a regular study section member. I understand the process. I understand the limitations and the benefits. And I also understand that

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Like in the cases recently where the FDA decided to not approve MDMA for the treatment of PTSD, you go like, whoa, what's it gonna take? I think... You know, I had a lot of feelings about that ruling. I think it's unfortunate given the really strong data that support the use of MDMA for the treatment of PTSD.

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I mean, more than 60%, you know, successful in air quotes, plus some people just go into total remission, but the hazards are there. And if there aren't safeguards in place for the practitioner patient relationship, which is one of the major concerns, If those aren't there, well, then it's never going to be legalized.

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So there were two major issues, plus some others. But the ones that I'm most aware of is that lack of an adequate control group. People don't know if they got the drug or they didn't. And then the other one is during the course of the trials, there were some. issues that came up about improprieties between practitioners and patients. Oh, like sexual stuff? Relationships?

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My understanding is that certain things may have arisen that kind of like pricked up people's ears. But the major issue was this. Is a person who's under the influence of MDMA in a position to advocate for what they need during the course of the session? Right. Like, are they in a quote unquote truly safe space? But the same thing could be said of psilocybin trials.

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So the solution there is my understanding is that you have two therapists there. It's not one therapist, one patient, two therapists. Right. That there are safeguards in place. Right. The same way that, you know, when somebody, a brain surgeon does a brain surgery, there's an anesthesiologist there and multiple nurses and staff to get things and hemostats.

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many of the fatalities in boxing were the consequence of, sure, 15 round as opposed to 12 round fights, but also when the corner man or the coach was the parent. And so it gets into this very complicated psychology.

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So I think that there needs to be, I think, a next phase evolution of the way that we think about things like MDMA assisted surgery.

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treatment for PTSD because I do think by my read of the data and I've looked closely at these data despite a few retractions there's still a body of data that really point to how powerfully helpful it can be for certain people under the right conditions yeah just striking and there's a tremendous amount of anecdotal data just people who haven't been in a study but talk about the benefits they've had from it and how much it's especially war veterans right

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The work that Veteran Solutions is doing with a guy at Stanford, Nolan Williams, in our Department of Psychiatry. He's been doing brain imaging before and after Ibogaine with the veterans that are taking Ibogaine, followed by DMT. And those are... looking very, very interesting. So to me, it's also the kind of emotional loading of things like MDMA.

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When we call it MDMA, if I tell you this is MDMA, this is a drug that raises serotonin dramatically, raises dopamine dramatically, opens neuroplasticity and allows people to rewire their brains if adequately supported. to feel relief, if not remission, from PTSD. You'd say, awesome, how do we move this forward safely?

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But if I start using words like ecstasy, I start using, now I call it what it really is, MDMA, methylene dioxide, methamphetamine. You hear methamphetamine, you hear ecstasy. You start hearing a bunch of stuff that starts shifting your brain towards, okay, this is like a party drug, they want to know what it is. Same thing was said about cannabis. I've done multiple episodes about cannabis.

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I'm not anti-cannabis. I think there's case studies where, excuse me, that's a specific thing in science, use cases where, or examples where people with a propensity for psychosis should probably not be doing high THC cannabis. I learned something really interesting, by the way, about this. We brought on an expert, brought on in part where there was a little bit of a Twitter battle.

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I actually think that's a really terrific book because I think it speaks to a lot of really interesting aspects of bonding between humans, bonding in that case between animals and humans. Of course, dogfighting,

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I put out a solo episode about cannabis years ago. No one had a problem with it. Put a clip on X. People came at me. Like crazy, like crazy. So I invited one of the main academics in that area onto my podcast. He eventually agreed. What was his disagreement with? He didn't like a bunch of things I said, but mainly three statements.

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One was that I said that there was evidence because there is a published paper. I must say this. There is a published paper looking at the differences in subjective effects that people experience with sativa versus indica strains. And he said there's no evidence that there is a different experience from sativa versus indica strains. That's just all bud tender lore. You shouldn't be saying this.

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So I said, wait, here's the paper. Here's the paper. Then there were a couple other things.

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He said he would like to see more evidence. When he came on, he was very gracious, offered a lot of useful knowledge, but he really didn't counter with that much. There were some issues about CBD biology versus THC.

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He works on animal models, but focuses on cannabis biology. So he's very knowledgeable. And I don't think he's anti-cannabis at all. But he just was, he was checking me on some things that he felt that I- Maybe he does smoke weed. Yeah. Maybe he needs better weed. He's a very nice guy. He was checking me on some things that he felt I had not gotten correctly or that weren't adequately supported.

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So my response was, I did this publicly, come on the podcast.

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Like, I'm not afraid to talk science.

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Like, let's go. And not in a combative way. He agreed to come on the podcast. We had a great discussion. And one of the things that he said was, The whole idea that there's so much more THC in weed now that's leading to all these problems, like the weed of today is not the weed of yesterday.

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He said when people inhale, they take it by vape or they smoke it or whatever, his words are that there's far fewer cases of people taking in more. They're able to reach that point that they want to be at without going too far.

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However, even though it's higher potency, however, when people take it by edible, there are cases where people get to genuine freak out in psychotic episodes because they're taking in far too much too quickly because you can eat the edible quickly. They're not layering it in until they hit that plane that they want to be in.

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I don't know that there are many things that people look down upon as much as they look down upon dog fighting, but he speaks to the relationship between the dog and the owner as a loving one, which was super surprising to me. Anyway, that's a bit of a tangent, but I don't know. Maybe it's possible to find that chart.

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So he wasn't anti-cannabis. And, in fact, I think it was a case where – maybe this brings us back to Twitter – where Twitter was a very valuable tool. So I put out something. I was going off the literature that I cited. He said, no, no, no, no. Listen, there's some issues here. You should adjust this. We brought him on the podcast. He was reluctant to come on the podcast.

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He thought I was gonna like set him up for a fall. We've never done that. Comes on the podcast, got the information out there. And then it all just kind of went to like a quiet simmer or nothing. And in the end, I think that's the way that all of this stuff should be handled. Whether or not you're talking about one medical treatment or another is, and this is the way you've done it.

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And this is the example you've laid out for me and for others, right? Which is talk about both sides. Talk to vegans, talk to carnivores, talk to omnivores. Talk to people who are pro-cannabis, anti, and worried about psychosis and not. Talk to people that are really pro-MDMA for the treatment of PTSD. Talk to people who are very reluctant.

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I think only there can we get the overlap in the Venn diagram about what the agreements are and what the disagreements are, and move forward.

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And I think direct experience is real. You know, Cam Haines pointed this out recently, and I'm not saying this to like focus, you know, the positive energy on us, but it will invariably do that or inevitably do that. Excuse me, which is he said, you know, it's kind of interesting that all of the top podcasters like really fit.

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You know, like all the people that are like really into their health, right? Like you and you know, David's out there like influencers. He was saying like there's a health component or a fitness component, not always, but I think most of them, I think he may have said all of them. He may have said many of them.

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But Chris Williams and Lex, there's a tendency to merge kind of intellectual discourse with physical. And I think that's a unique theme of podcasting also, at least of certain – let's just say what it is. A lot of the top podcasts, that's like a pretty consistent theme for the female podcasters too. Like Whitney Works Out, those are podcasts. Like there's a kind of merging of those things.

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I don't want to send you on a ridiculous expedition, but if you just say sort of genes. That's a simple one. Okay. This one, the one I'm thinking about is a vertical one. That was in Science Magazine or Scientific American. But it's wild. Again, I don't want to send you on a on an expedition that has us paused, but. Yeah, sorry about that.

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And I think that when it comes to the discussion about anything about health – It also is beneficial if people are engaging in healthy behaviors, right? Or if they've tried things, like they're trying to be fit. I see Rhonda posting pictures of herself deadlifting now, right? And like Peter's talking about his workouts and he's a physician, he's an MD.

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So I think it's not sufficient to just study something, right? To just look at the data and papers. I think it really helps if you're able to get in close contact with the things that you're hearing about.

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Yeah, it does suck. And there's a direct correlation between this ability to continue moving your body and your intellectual ability. I mean, you have to still go and learn and read and acquire knowledge and try hard things. You just can't just work out. But I can think of a number of key examples that are historical.

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The greatest neurobiologist of all time, supernatural levels of ability was a guy named Ramoni Cahal, won the Nobel Prize in 1906. He was the one who first defined the synapse, et cetera. He carried an iron umbrella to work. He lifted weights. Oliver Sacks, one of the greatest neurologists and writers of our time, passed away in 2015, had a 600-pound squat, okay?

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Yeah, he had the state powerlifting record at one point. Just a beast of a guy. He was also a neurologist and wrote all these beautiful books about how the mind works, the man who mistook his wife for a hat. He was behind the movie Awakenings, et cetera, et cetera.

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Don Kennedy, former president of Stanford, ran into his late 70s and then after that had a hip replacement and then was doing other stuff. So Richard Axel is a Nobel Prize from Columbia University. The first person to find ways to introduce genes to novel genes to cells played racquetball. I don't know if he's still playing racquetball, you know. I'll name one more.

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These are incredible people, like the guy who essentially defined the understanding of the visual system and neuroplasticity, my scientific great-grandfather. There's David Hubel and Torrenson Wiesel. Torrenson just turned something like 95 or something, maybe it's 93. He still runs. He runs slowly, but he still goes, and he is mentally sharp. So this is not an accident.

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This is not just a correlation. This is the anterior mid cingulate cortex in action. And of course, cancer, a bus or a bullet can still take you out. But assuming you make it into your 60s, 70s, 80s, movement, movement, movement is the way to stay mentally strong and to continue to have the capacity to learn.

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I mean, just to kind of weave these two things, if we're talking about MDMA, psilocybin or some other agent that raises serotonin and dopamine. Or we're talking about movement. All we're really talking about are ways to increase these neuromodulators like dopamine, acetylcholine, serotonin, epinephrine, and they create the opportunity for neuroplasticity. They don't create plasticity on their own.

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They create a milieu that's very much like the young brain where it's like, okay, what's new here? This is why adrenaline is such a powerful tool for plasticity. I'm not going to suggest people use smelling salts to try and do better on their exams. There are other ways to do better on their exams. I probably will take another one.

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Let's go. Because we alternated.

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It was left before. It's definitely right. Oh, man.

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get a little adrenaline now you can lift more well I told myself I wasn't going to cry on this podcast because I cried on a podcast recently of mine we kept it in but like now I'm crying but these are tears related to the smell yeah this is tears just sort of chemicals rot in your brain you're supposed to not do that more than twice a day but we've done it many times so it's just that this thing neuroplasticity like that does it really that's from your sinuses you have some skulls around here like the sinuses run from you know here and through to the that's why when you get a sinus infection or you

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Yeah. So so now when I see like, OK, like a collie, like I see a collie down there, I think long snout. So probably has a better nose than a than a mastiff breed. Are you can ask an owner, how good is their vision? Are they a sight hound or a scent hound? And of course, they're both. But some dogs like I'm really interested now in part because of.

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and clear your, yeah. But neuroplasticity is the most impressive feature of the human brain. It can rewire itself. But when you're a kid, you rewire in response to passive experience, for better or worse. As an adult, you can rewire your brain, but you have to create the milieu, the environment that the brain wants to rewire itself.

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So these neuromodulators like adrenaline or dopamine or serotonin, they need to be spiked. And nicotine, what you're now taking another one, is we know comes, does many things in the brain and body, but God, that stuff's strong. But there's a brain area called nucleus basalis, which sits in the base of the brain, and it can serve as a spotlight by releasing acetylcholine onto what?

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Onto nicotinic acetylcholine receptors in certain circuits and provide focus. So that's what nicotine's doing. Unless you take so much of it every day, that those, your kind of baseline levels of acetylcholine either drop or become kind of regulated to the point where you're not getting that spotlighting anymore, which is why people then are taking more and more.

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But as our, you know, your former guest and my colleague, Dr. Anna Lemke has said, the worst thing you can do when you're in a trough of dopamine is try and boost dopamine again. You just got to wait for it to come back. So if people want nicotine to continue to work, they should use it sporadically or when they feel like it's not working anymore, take a break.

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No question.

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Yeah, and I covered that in my solo episode on cannabis. this researcher from Canada who's, I don't think he's pro or anti-cannabis, but had differing views, came on my podcast. And then- What's his name? Matt Hill. And he's a respected researcher in this area. And I thought his stance was very nuanced. And then after he came on the podcast, other people-

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not Berenson necessarily, although I haven't checked my DMs that closely, contacted me and said, no, I have counters to that guy, which just told me everything I already know, which is that science is a field with people with differing opinions, right? Which is good. Which is great. I mean, you don't have a field until you have differing opinions.

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You don't want to be the only person working on something. Right. You want that. It's something that, you know, you can tell I get really impassioned, smelling salts or no, about this, because somehow... In the media version of is cannabis good, is cannabis bad? And honestly, the political aspects to it.

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Like I wasn't tracking the fact that cannabis was just about to be approved for more legalization right about the time that that clip got amplified. But I wasn't saying it should or shouldn't. I'm just giving you the information. Same as I did for alcohol.

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I would love to put this to rest once and for all. Every couple of weeks or months, you're going to see media outlets say some drinking is good for you. Others will say some drinking, any drink is bad for you. Here's the deal. Zero is better than any. A little bit's probably fine, especially if you do other things to offset the sleep loss and microbiome stuff.

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If you're going to drink, probably should be doing other healthy behaviors anyway. No one's saying it's terrible. I'll have a drink every once in a while. I'm not an alcoholic. If you're not, if you're a non-alcoholic adult, one or two, I love like a good white tequila with soda and lime. So good. But, you know, I don't really like alcohol enough to be able to comment past that.

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But, and I haven't had a drink in years, but the reality is that alcohol, One study after another saying moderate drinking's good for you, no drinking's better for you, cancerous. This is never gonna stop. It's a field. Now we have enough data, people can make their decision. Everyone knows sleep is important.

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There's no field to be had except to how to figure out to get sleep better, in my opinion. Sleep deprivation's bad, but you're not gonna get dementia or die from a couple bad nights sleep. That's also true. So it's almost like the way things have split politically has become the way that health information has split.

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And I'm fighting tooth and nail, and I know you are and other people are as well, to try and continue to shine light on the field that is psychedelics, the field that includes cannabis, the field that includes things like weight loss and Ozempic, but also exercise and all the other good things. And somehow, and maybe you can tell me because I'm new to the media thing, newer than you, certainly.

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For some reason, people don't like that. It's like the brain needs like a black and white thing. It's like they can't seem to just deal with the fact that like, look, you'll find evidence for and evidence against. You just got to make the best decision for you.

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I didn't know that. But science to me is about facts. And I totally agree. I think that Rick Rubin, he seems to come to mind a lot to me today. But he once said to me, we were in discussion, I discovered science. a bunch of lies in somebody's life. And I was like, oh my God. And he just said, very calmly, he said, look, it's all lies. And I'm like, what do you mean? I'm like, that's the problem.

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I read this incredible description of why dog scent and sense of smell is so much better than ours. There's a guy named Noam Sobel who's been on my podcast. He's over in Israel who claims that human olfaction is just as good as dog olfaction. But how do they outdo us? The frequency of sniffs. And this is really cool. You know those little notches on the side of the nose?

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I'm realizing it's all lies. And he said, listen, it's all lies. Back to nature. That's the only truth. And I'm like, yeah, that's why I became a scientist. And then he said, oh, wait. And professional wrestling. Because everyone knows that's made up.

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And I actually went to the AEW with Rick.

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Well, they're jumping around in the ring. And they'll stop every once in a while and look and go, hey, Rick Rubin. Like, it's wild. Like, he's that much of a fixture. It's so great. He's there with his red lens glasses and the whole thing. He does the sunlight. He's gotten much healthier. He looks great. He takes really great care of himself. But... I think he's right. I think nature has a truth.

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It has an order to it. Science's job is to try and unveil that truth to the best of our abilities. But wrestling, admittedly, everyone agrees it's made up. So at least we agree on that. Whereas I think so much of what we've been talking about today is like the media. At what point do we realize there are portions that are true, there are portions that are made up?

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Like our nostrils look more or less symmetric. They have those little notches. They create little vortices for the dog so that the scents stick around. They're actually getting longer exposure to a scent. So when they, they're getting something like 10 or 20x the exposure to the scent in the olfactory bulb.

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crazy. That's crazy. Especially among friends. I've always been blessed that there's been very little, if any hierarchy in my friends, we knew who was better at certain things than others, you know, and this should never be, we're just human beings.

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No, I'm not smart. It's just different form of intelligence. And I'm not just saying that. You know, with each passing year, and I've looked forward to like approaching 50, because I'm like, now I can say things like with each passing year or by this stage. But I also realized the other day, I lived a long period of my life where I didn't really have a sense of the fact that I would die.

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I'd watched the Steve Jobs commencement speech at Stanford, 2005, where he talks about this notion that we're going to die is so critical. And I couldn't get in touch with it. Recently, I'm like, oh. Like time's gonna come up. Every time I go down for a meditation, I do this like non-sleep, deep rest, yoga, nidra meditation. I like go do the long exhale.

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and are able to assess both directionality, they can do right nostril, left nostril, they can sense odor plumes to steer in one direction or another. But Noam has done these crazy experiments when he was back at Berkeley, where he had people's hands mitted, eyes covered, so they can't sense touch, they can't see, everything's covered, and they can follow a scent of chocolate

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I'm like, someday it's gonna just be last exhale. And I'm not looking forward to dying. Lord knows I'm not looking forward to dying. But I realize, I'm like, this is great. It's very freeing. Because I had this realization the other day in a meditation. No psychedelics involved in this one. And I realized like, I can continue to just be curious and explore.

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And like, I think it's that ego detachment, a little slice of that. Like, this is bad. This is good. I'm learning from this. This was good. This was hard. I learned a lot from that. I learned what I needed to change from that and just be moving forward.

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It's this removing this thing of like, like you said, like this game all day long of like, not that I was in that mode or I didn't think I was, but this need to win, right? It's sort of like being an explorer. I'm a brain explorer. I've been a brain explorer for a long time. I love biology, love animals. Like I'm an explorer.

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And I think the definition of curiosity to me is that you're not attached to the outcome, right? You just want to know what's real, right?

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When did that fall away for you? You're about— Fifty-seven.

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So interesting. I will say we know how we feel about people when we see them succeed. Because I think there's this natural reflex like when you hear like, oh, that like that really shitty person that you knew in school, like they got pancreatic cancer. Everyone just goes, oh, like that sucks. That sucks.

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But when you hear, hey, you know, that person that used to really dislike or that you had friction with and like they just like. IPO like they're doing great, you know, you know immediately do I like that person or not, right? Because if you're happy for them, presumably you like them, right? You know, yeah rarely is it neutral either?

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I mean, I I can't think of anyone that I'm like don't want to see succeed except maybe a few individuals I think are actually evil, but those are extremely rare But I think it sounds like you're also a competitive person. I didn't do a lot of competitive sports I'm very curious about this like I'm competitive with myself but like you did combat sport and

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I did skateboarding, play a little soccer, did some swimming, running, weightlifting. You know, like like you your brain was weaned in fighting a lot of the time.

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buried seven inches below the ground what yes and you can see this this you can find if you say uh tracking sorry Jamie my goal wasn't to come here and send you on these these people have a nose like Ari Shaffir oh boy or Adrian Brody oh my um If you say kind of Berkeley chocolate tracking Sobel or something like that, it should come up.

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Until 25, your brain is a plasticity machine.

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#2195 - Andrew Huberman

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It's there to map according to your experience. I mean, like literally come into the world, baby's flopping, like, you know, like little bug, move, move, move, move. Neuronal connections are being removed by the thousands, tens of thousands by the day so that you get fine-tuned movement. It's like you're a plasticity machine.

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#2195 - Andrew Huberman

8781.649

And then you're thinking and your notions about boys and girls and teachers and parents and good things and bad things and what that means and what that means and who's a hero and who's a villain. The brain is just placing things into boxes and symbols. It's an unbelievable phenomenon. And it's happening when you're a teenager, then you throw hormones into the mix.

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#2195 - Andrew Huberman

8799.657

People often don't talk about this. Then you add hormones and now you're adding the drive that is hormones related to like really hardwired, evolutionarily selected things like reproduction. Fighting, right? We all have brain circuits for fighting. There's a brain area. David Anderson's laboratory at Caltech has studied this. I think we talked about it before.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

8818.513

You stimulate this little region of the ventromedial hypothalamus, the specific neurons, and the animals will mate. They'll mount or the females will go into lordosis. They'll arch their back. to expose their genitals. You stimulate other neurons in that exact same area, ventromedial hypothalamus. You know what happens? They go into a rage. They want to rip apart the other animal.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

8839.274

There are videos of this online. You can put the mouse in there with a plastic glove filled with air, stimulate these neurons, and the animal will just attack that thing. And then you stop the stimulation, and the animal just... Wow, little robots. Our brains have these circuits. As Jung said, we have all things inside of us.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

8859.382

The extent to which we learn to suppress or exacerbate depends on experience, its nature and nurture. But we come into this world hardwired with the capacity for most any of these behaviors to emerge. Your daughter fortunately got very good at drawing, right? That probably is handed off through some slight genetic bias handed on through you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

8878.32

and your partner, your wife, to create a slight bias towards looking at the world in a particular way, an artistic sense, something about aesthetics, pay attention to curved corners versus square corners, whatever it is. But what we do feeds back on that circuit. So if you draw more, you get better at drawing. This is the nature.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

8938.789

Their nervous system was shaped in fighting. The same way Tiger Woods' nervous system was shaped golfing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

8962.465

This is why when people say, like, what should I do? I always think, like, I don't know what people should do. And I took a formal education path eventually. But if we look back to the things that really delighted us and that we naturally oriented towards when we were young, there's often information there. For me, it was animals and fish tanks and biology. I wanted to understand things, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

897.088

So he would do these aerial views of these people tracking these scents on the ground. And it turns out people are really good at this. They can track a scent.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

8980.795

And parse things through an understanding of some structure because the world just That's what it pulled out of me. My dad's a scientist, so it's probably some genetic thing and probably some nurture stuff as well. I'm a big track and field fan and went up to the Olympic track and field trials in Eugene, Oregon. I love the town of Eugene.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

8997.763

I go to every trial as I can for the last, gosh, four Olympic trials. And earlier that summer, I ran into a guy named Cole Hawker. He's a shorter guy for a runner. He runs the 1500, so it's about a mile, right? And he took the first position there, so he went off to Paris. And he came from, it's an amazing race. If you didn't watch the 1500 race at this year's Paris Olympics, it's fucking amazing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9019.532

If anyone needs motivation, you should get it from the inside is my belief. But if you need to look outside, which we all occasionally do, check out this race. Cole comes from like fourth or fifth position against the world record holder. He's shorter, he doesn't have the stride that these other guys have. And they box him in. and he goes out and around and beats them all, takes the gold.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9038.86

It's one of these like pre-Fontaine moments, right? Now here's what's crazy and relates to what you're saying. He's posting on Instagram afterwards. I happen to know him a little bit. Cam and I went and watched the trials together, which is a real pleasure. And Cam's like a legend. These Olympic gold medal winners were coming up to him, running, we got great seats, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9055.467

And I gifted him a seat because I'm very grateful to Cam for, okay, here's Cole, right? Cole's a USA in fifth position. All right? I don't know where this is. This is a fairly long race.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9067.917

No. So you might want to just go a little further because this is the whole race.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9072.22

Yeah, he's the man with the man bun. But he's man with a capital M-A-N. I'll tell you. You'll see. Super nice guy, too. So this guy from Norway, Ingerbritsen, he and his brothers have like a reality TV show. They're like famous over there. He's a world record holder. Also a great runner, but cocky. He's like talking a lot before. So check this out. So...

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9092.255

I don't know how far along we have to go before... Damn, they're running fast as fuck for a mile.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9101.322

Right. Final lap. So watch this. So he breaks from fifth position after they box him in to win.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9107.455

I don't know if you caught that, but basically he's fifth position. So he kicks at the end and takes it all at the end against the world record holder. Now, here's where it gets even. Oh, here we go.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9118.802

Yeah, so he's way back, and then they box him in later, and he wins.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

912.36

Okay. But if you go images, I think you'll probably... Chocolate scent through the grass. Yeah, if you go images... and then I'll lay off the Google. So if you go to images, damn it, and you just say Berkeley, just say, there it is. Right, so they compared the tracking of a scent hound, of a bloodhound, to human tracking of a scent buried, in the case of the bloodhound, it wasn't buried.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9128.307

Right. So he knows he's got a great kick.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9136.671

So Inger Britsen went out really fast in this race, fast pace. So now he's trying to come around. Right. So now watch this. So. So now he's trying to, this is the boxing you'll see. He's trying to take the inside track. And these two guys don't want him to do that. Right, exactly. He actually touches Inger Britson. He actually touches him on his back hip with the outside of his arm.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9157.003

It's weird, there's like no rule. There it is. He sees if there's space. Inger Britson's not going to let him in. And so he goes, you know what? How about this instead? How about I come out? He doesn't, sorry, he stayed inside track and he breaks through.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9175.527

Yeah, they boxed him in. They boxed him in. So here's what's wild. So afterwards there's a bunch of posting on Instagram. Then they show a picture of Cole Hawker when he's like eight years old holding a medal where he was running the 1500 and he's doing like four minutes and change. That's a mile, which is a miler as a kid running four and some change as a little kid.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9195.852

So this brings it back to your point, which is like nowadays we're seeing the selection of people who are probably have a genetic bias towards something, a love of it, like running, right? Plus immense amounts of experience. And their nervous system, like he was shaped miling. That's a nervous system that miles. I'll tell you, you can also walk and talk and eat because I've met him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9218.565

But that's a nervous system that was shaped around running the 1500 mile. So when you see it, they're like the top, top, top 1%. It's so different than like my field where you can't go to graduate school to get a training in neuroscience until you're in your 20s, unless you're a phenom. So you can't go to school for this.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9236.357

And so I think when people look at what they naturally oriented to when they were young, And they stayed with that. That's the thing that you had maybe a genetic, probably genetic leaning toward.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9255.192

Oh, absolutely.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9256.913

Absolutely. I think because of the online learning platforms. I think of because of... I even like the sport that I grew up, unfortunately, wasn't very good at, or maybe fortunately, who knows, I was skateboarding, right? So many of my friends went on to start companies, became pro skateboarders. A lot of them didn't, but I didn't have a propensity for it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9273.386

Kept getting hurt, broke my foot three times. I was like so frustrated. It was unbelievable. So I went in a different direction, went in the science direction. Turned out to be my thing. But now... The little kids, literally little kids, boys and girls, like this girl Reese Nelson, she skates with power on vert. Not like a little kid going, she's got power and technical.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9294.084

And guys like Tony Hawk are like, whoa. It's because they have all this exposure to 900s and tricks and ramps. And there's just way more people feeding the pool of potential skaters. professional skateboarders. So when you look at the Olympics or the X Games now, you're getting a much greater selection of the huge pool, bigger sample size feeding into it. You're getting the genetic gifts.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9315.284

Her mom travels with her everywhere. She dedicates near 100% of her time to this. So it's a lot of what you were saying, like we're selecting earlier. We're pulling from a larger pool, so you're going to get the genetic freaks. The pole vaulter guy keeps winning world records or beating his own world record. I saw him get at the Worlds at Eugene about two years ago. Broke the world record.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9336.92

He keeps beating the world record. This guy's been pole vaulting his whole life. He's been pole vaulting since he was a little kid. So the earlier you get him, the more the nervous system can be shaped that way.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

941.793

Yeah, they got a mask on, their hands are covered with thick gloves, they can only use, the only thing exposed are their nostrils. But that line, that yellow line is not a line with a bunch of chocolate on it. It's buried below the surface. I always thought it was above. And then when I talked to Noam, he said, no, no, they buried the chocolate scent.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9519.075

Yeah, that guy's brain has a circuit. I'm willing to wage my entire career on this. That is a left kick circuit. The same way that a tool like a bow is designed for a specific thing, that circuit is like left kick.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9560.052

It's whips! Fast, powerful.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

959.277

And people were able to track it like a hunting dog tracks a pheasant.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9658.509

Only a left hook that wins.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9670.598

So if we look at this through the lens of nervous systems, you know, I know that there have been conversations that you've had here and elsewhere, like would a crocodile versus a gorilla, these kind of crazy things. We don't need to reignite that. But I think when we're at the... discussion around true peak performance.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9688.054

Like somebody grew up running miles, who grew up throwing left hooks, who grew up slipping punches. Yes, they're both homo sapiens, they're both humans, but you're talking about two different animals. When you're talking about the person that got into in their twenties and thirties versus the person that started off young, You're talking about two different nervous systems.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9707.9

If we were to look at their brains under magnetic resonance imaging, you'd see a lot of things that are similar. The breathing centers, the stuff that controls the heart rate. Everything is mostly in the same place. But I'd be willing to bet everything that you look at Ryan Garcia's brain, you go, that left hook, if you were able to throw the left hook in the thing, you'd see it light up.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

971.041

So he insists that this thing that you see in all the textbooks... which is that humans have, you know, like 1,000th or something of the number of olfactory receptors. That's total bullshit. Total bullshit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9724.049

You'd be like, wow, either more efficient, more... maybe more space allocated to it, maybe less space, but the speed of transmission is just faster. You're talking about a different nervous system, which is just a different way of saying a different person, but it's more meaningful in my view because what you're talking about is cars with extra cylinders.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9744.664

You're talking about a race between two different vehicles. And so I think if somebody is very educated in the fight game or is educated in in any domain, they're able to see that difference and give people really good advice. Whereas with the person themselves, they can't see that. It's like, we look the same here. He trains, I train, I train harder, I'm driven. It's like, no, it's not the same.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9764.118

And I think that's why to me, something like a Cole Hawker win over a world record holder is, as is the other stuff we were just watching, incredibly impressive because you say, well, he's in fifth position and he's got a shorter stride and the other guy's got all this world record stuff under his belt and he's done great as well.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9781.169

I think he won the 5,000, Inger Britten won the 5,000, but Colts just like, pulls something out, like they're very close in terms of their abilities. They're the same, roughly the same species, right? You know, in the context that we're talking about. And then somehow through sheer will is he able to outkick him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9807.633

And he's from Kentucky. I've never been to, I've been to Louisville once, but someone told me, I don't know if this is true or not, but they're more, if you looked at the number of medals from people from Kentucky, It's almost like in a complete country. Really? I don't know what's going on in Kentucky.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9821.624

No, not just in track and field, like across the summer Olympics. If you look at the number of like American versus Chinese medals, it's like tears out. But then you go like Kentucky was a pretty good quote unquote country.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

983.488

And in fact, our friend who, by the way, wanted me to say hello, Rick Rubin, turned to a good friend of mine, who's the chair of neurosurgery of a major medical school department, not Stanford, I promise, and said, what percentage of the things in medical textbooks, okay, this is Rick asking this chair of neurosurgery.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9832.653

Yeah. There you go. There's something about people from Kentucky are doing very well in the, in the, uh, How are they in neuroscience? I have a friend who just retired as chair of the neurobiology department. It's actually neuroanatomy there, my friend Bill Guido at University of Louisville.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9856.455

Bill Guido, he ran a great department there. I'm sure someone else has taken over.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9860.538

Maureen McCall does great vision research there. So one of the great things about being a scientist was, you know, my lab now is run at a much smaller scale. But for years, I just traveled the country, these places I would never think to go to, right? I had a great Argentine meal in Louisville. I went to... In St. Louis, I had one of the best meals of my life. I don't think I'd ever go to St.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9879.311

Louis, but I was visiting Wash U. And then there are certain cities that you hear terrible things about, and they're true.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9896.559

Great horses. Like I've been learning more about horses cause it's like dog selection and horse selection. Is it, I mean the, the genetic breeding and the selection of horses for particular traits, like this whole warm blood thing. I don't know much about it, not enough to comment on it, but these people have been around horses their whole lives. A stud horse is worth millions of dollars.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9914.103

And they know that, that full, that's the one that, and they put tons of money on it. Like they have this unconscious genius based on all this life experience.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9935.555

Or the Williams sisters, like that movie, the King James movie. Or Tiger Woods. Yeah, or Tiger Woods. Yeah. Or the kids that I grew up with skateboarding. Like there's this kid, you know, Guy Mariano. I knew him when he was a little kid. He would waddle. The board felt like looked bigger than him. And now growing up, he's so good. He's kind of in my generation.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9955.271

So he's kind of like in the late 40s thing. He still just kills. Because he developed his body.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9962.116

Went through all the trials and tribulations. And this has been public. You know, had his issues and got sober and came back to skateboarding and just killed. skateboarder of the year for Thrasher, which is a huge deal. You just see like the young Danny Wade, Tony Hawk grew up skateboarding. His body, his nervous system is skateboarding.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9978.307

And I love this aspect to people in sport because we see it, but it's, you know, I think I remember listening to like, and hearing conversations like this and thinking, yeah, but like, if you're not into that, where is it? And this is where, man, I just keep thinking about all the time, but forgive me. Rick has always said, the key to being really great at something is to just be you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2195 - Andrew Huberman

9999.161

And I'm like, that sounds like about as mystical wrapped in a riddle as it possibly be.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2320 - Tom Segura

1210.372

He's the coffee's dad.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2320 - Tom Segura

13.964

What's wrong with you? What?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2320 - Tom Segura

1518.297

Complete charlatan. It's got to be, dude.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2320 - Tom Segura

1944.485

Fireman strength.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2320 - Tom Segura

1948.927

131.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2320 - Tom Segura

2016.161

This guy, but, I mean, he's doing the same thing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2320 - Tom Segura

2209.564

Is it?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2320 - Tom Segura

2266.55

Really?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2320 - Tom Segura

27.505

What did you do?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2320 - Tom Segura

3144.933

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2320 - Tom Segura

3804.021

This is 10 years ago, though. It goes on to say that it tricked the employees. They thought they were working at a real Apple store. That's the craziest part.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2320 - Tom Segura

4955.993

Of course.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2320 - Tom Segura

6767.591

Yeah. 2024, $148.7 billion gambled. Oh.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2320 - Tom Segura

6790.694

No, that's true. This is just the United States, too. This doesn't include any other country. That's so crazy. And that's just football? No, no. It's all sports. Oh, all sports. It's got to be mostly football. Yeah, that's a lot of football, dude.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2320 - Tom Segura

7267.273

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2320 - Tom Segura

7578.818

Fucking kid.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2320 - Tom Segura

7725.847

It says he bought his dad a Cadillac, but this is years later, though.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2320 - Tom Segura

7936.553

What is this? This is the company. This is the first piece they made, and it shows a little bit about how they made it here.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2320 - Tom Segura

7942.055

Yeah. They still are doing it. Oh, so they have actors. They have real actors. Then they're replaced.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2320 - Tom Segura

8000.576

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2320 - Tom Segura

8003.917

Her hair is not moving. It's pretty static.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2320 - Tom Segura

8007.599

No, no.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2320 - Tom Segura

8041.627

Oh. You can't read anything. In a movie, you wouldn't need it, but when you're looking for AI stuff, you can sort of look at fonts. Interesting. Yeah, look at that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2320 - Tom Segura

8138.263

It's so, so crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2320 - Tom Segura

8399.119

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2320 - Tom Segura

9257.957

See you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2200 - Kat Timpf

10436.07

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2200 - Kat Timpf

1378.128

But that's still alarming.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2200 - Kat Timpf

1713.276

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2200 - Kat Timpf

1847.055

Sure.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2200 - Kat Timpf

2968.913

No.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2200 - Kat Timpf

3464.799

If I have something important.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2200 - Kat Timpf

3918.753

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2200 - Kat Timpf

4420.763

Loved it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2200 - Kat Timpf

5005.101

I don't know.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2200 - Kat Timpf

5239.102

Really?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2200 - Kat Timpf

5269.245

I know.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2200 - Kat Timpf

5473.898

But people do it all the time.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2200 - Kat Timpf

5695.107

No.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2200 - Kat Timpf

6687.199

Exactly.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2200 - Kat Timpf

6825.611

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2200 - Kat Timpf

6828.713

Pretty gangster.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2200 - Kat Timpf

7136.014

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2200 - Kat Timpf

723.089

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2200 - Kat Timpf

729.394

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2200 - Kat Timpf

8221.978

It was amazing, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2200 - Kat Timpf

8771.181

And I guess thieves just come in and take whatever is expensive.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2200 - Kat Timpf

962.629

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2200 - Kat Timpf

993.739

I don't know either.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

10026.524

So it's a killer hand that fucks everybody up?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

10043.854

I love Samantha Egger. This movie looks hilarious.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

10123.0

Well, the horror genre is hard to do to not make ridiculous.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

10170.335

We can keep going. Okay. So when you... First got into this like did you have? Like a film that you aspired to create something like like when you first did you say I got you know?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

1040.606

You need a Costco-sized building.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

10416.669

I think I got the wrong part.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

10485.632

Kubrick was such an odd one. Like his films are so different. And he was a weird guy, too. He did like complex mathematics in his spare time. I do complex mathematics.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

10702.95

Here's the thing. Now we have AI.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

10716.74

I've been working on Runway lately, which is. The curve is insane. Like the exponential curve of improvement.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

10750.45

i have them talking and kind of funny looking it wouldn't be funny but it's a claymation version of both you and me how bizarre that something that would have cost like hundreds of millions of dollars like if you wanted to do a film like a pixel type you know one of those crazy movies where you have all this like insane animation that shit took forever the best work that i've

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

10908.636

Jamie, pull up Beowulf. Let's watch some of that. I want to remember what it looks like.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

10925.746

Let's fucking go.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

10929.988

I thought about fixing... So let me see what this looks like with the Beowulf... Oh, jeez.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

10937.293

Yeah, but it was kind of cool because everybody looked like that, not just the monster. That was kind of cool about it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

10963.517

Cuts his own fucking arm off.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

10978.485

He stabs a dragon in the heart.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

11859.526

I think this is the best way to wrap this up. Perfect. Gentlemen, thank you very much. This was an awesome conversation. Really, really appreciate it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

11869.151

Three and a half hours just flew by. Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

11883.1

No, there it is, the Video Archives Podcast on Patreon. Patreon.com.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

13.382

So you're saying that someone was telling you how to kill someone with coffee?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

1402.77

So at what point in time, while this is all going on, do you guys decide we need to make our own fucking movies? It was always the case.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

146.252

That's it? That's it. Just right into the blood?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

1529.085

That's a great movie.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

165.308

Cuban espresso?

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Like he tied his arm off? He's like, hold my arm? No, no, no.

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And then he just needed a heroin partner.

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That's a very underappreciated movie. It's a fucking great movie.

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Those are the classics that you would look for in a video store.

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You'd look for the movies that were really good that no one knew about.

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All the time they're doing it. Well, Jamie and I were just talking. They think they have a photo of the guy who whacked that insurance CEO. Oh, yeah, yeah, uh-huh. Yeah, they think they have a photo of his face now.

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Well, I would think with the amount of cameras.

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I think, you know, there's cameras everywhere.

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And that's part of the problem with someone. I don't think this guy was a professional. I think this guy... If I had to guess, some guy who got fucked over. Apparently that company is really bad on denying claims.

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Normal is like 16. Yeah. So those guys.

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Maybe it's family, but that's about it. It's a dirty, dirty business. The business of insurance is fucking gross. It's gross. And especially health care insurance. Just fucking gross.

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And then you start getting bitter.

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Yeah, I have a friend who's trying to sell a house in California, and it turned out it was $125,000 a year just to get fire insurance. Like, what?

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Wow. But it just takes being around people that are actually doing it so you realize it's possible.

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Yeah, but I was evacuated three times when I lived there. I used to live in Bell Canyon and, you know, it was fucking, it was rough.

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This is exactly what we tried to do when we built the mothership here. What we've done. We decided when we left LA, we need a place where comics have a hub. And when we were all in Austin, we all just moved to Austin because of the pandemic. And all of a sudden we were allowed to perform indoors. It was crazy. In November of 2020, we were doing shows indoors.

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And, you know, you couldn't go on Twitter because they would call you a big super spreader, a fucking monster. But everybody started moving here. And by the time 2020 rolls around, there's like 15, 16 world-class comedians that didn't used to live in Austin that are here now. And we were like, let's build a club. And so we bought the Ritz Theater where, you know, some of your movies are played.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is fucking crazy. Yeah. And when we put it together, the whole idea was like have a place where people can come. We have two nights of open mic nights, Sunday and Monday night. So there's always a chance to get on stage. There's always a guy. There's a real talent. Adam Egott is a real talent coordinator. He's really going to watch you. He's really going to give you advice.

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And you're around the best comics in the world all the time. And everybody knows it's possible. And everybody treats you the way you would want to be treated if you were starting. So you're just one of us. You just started. But we're not better than you. There's nothing special about us. We're just telling you. We started walking, and now we're 15 miles in. You're 15 feet in. Just keep walking.

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Yeah, it is just luck. Yeah.

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Not necessarily. Like, Tony Hinchcliffe started at the Comedy Store. He started as a doorman, you know, and he worked his way up to selling out Madison Square Garden two nights in a row. I mean, it is possible to still be a doorman. I met Tony when he was just starting out.

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Well, you don't get good for 10 years. It takes forever. Comedy is like making a mountain out of layers of paint.

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Well, there's also no one who can tell you how to do it. Writing a film, you have a protagonist, you have the antagonist, you have a plot, you have a bunch of stuff that you can kind of create and formulate.

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It takes 10 years to be a real headliner. Well, a headliner, that's a little different.

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Well, that's when you're a real comic.

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When you can do an hour. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can do an hour, and then you can write another hour. Yeah, yeah. You kind of know who you are. Because it takes years to build that.

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Yes, yes. And usually you go on the road with a headliner and then the people get to see you. Oh, I remember he was here when Tom Segura was in town. That guy's really good. We saw him then and he did 15 minutes. Now he's going to do an hour. This should be great. And it's sort of that kind of a deal.

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But it's the same sort of situation where most people don't, like if you're in Pittsburgh, you don't know what to do. You go up, there's a couple open mic nights, everybody sucks. And there's no inspiration.

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And it's good on the weekends.

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Right. It's good on the weekends because they'll fly in, you know, Greg Fitzsimmons, some headliner, and you'll get to see a real comic for a weekend. So you get a little bit of an education from that. And maybe if you're lucky, the club owner will let you open for him or do 10 minutes on that show. And you kind of like get a feel what it's like to perform.

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in front of a real audience that's there to see a real comic. But you gotta be around, comedy doesn't exist in a vacuum. There's no great comedian that lives in some small town by himself. You could find some great blues artist. Or a great novelist. Yes, novelist is probably the best one, because you kind of live in your own head. But you have to be around the other people that are doing it.

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Which is exactly why Quentin moved to Hollywood. Yeah, exactly.

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Across from Plummer Park. Your bitter friend gave you a valuable little piece of information.

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You need those. You need those moments.

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Right, right. The topsoil. Exactly. It doesn't come back.

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You never get to be 21 again. Let's hit reset. Yeah. You get one weird march through this life.

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Get it going. Yeah, get it going. I think these conversations are so important for young people to hear because there's a lot of people out there that do have ideas, and sometimes they have a little bit of a fire, and then maybe they have a job that's kind of cool like yours was, and they get sedated.

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Yeah, when I was filming Fear Factor, I talked to this guy who was a fire guy for the fire department. He said, it's just going to be a matter of time. There's going to be one day where a fire hits L.A. and the wind is the right way and we're not going to be able to stop it. It's just going to burn right through to the ocean. He goes, it's just a matter of time. We all know it.

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Right, right, right.

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Right, right, right, right.

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There's guys like that at the comedy store. There's a friend of mine at the comedy store. He was a bartender in the back bar. And he wanted to be a comic.

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But he was there. It was like five years after I met him. I'm like, hey, man, you got to quit this fucking job.

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Because you're here with all the greatest comics in the world, but you're not going on stage. And you're making good money. And that's the velvet curtain that's pulled over your eyes. Yeah.

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I was like, what the fuck, dude? I go, the whole city? He goes, the whole city. He goes, when those big fires get going, there's not a damn thing. Like what happened in Malibu a few years back. I always thought Malibu, those rich people.

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That actually happened while we were shooting Pulp Fiction. Really?

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It's good to get that slow drip, get a little bit of a taste of it before you actually get famous. Just to get a feel of what it's like.

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Yeah. The fame thing is no one can teach you how to do that. There needs to be a group of people to get together with people that are about to get famous and say, hey, listen, we're famous already. Let me tell you how fucking weird this is. I don't know if you're prepared for this.

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Yeah, nobody knows what it's like to actually be successful until you are. But in the beginning, did you guys feel like pretenders? Did you feel fake? Did you have imposter syndrome?

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Well, maybe that was a good thing, though.

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Because I think that's one of the things you did with your films is you did shit that was very risky. Like, we're talking about executives and all these different management people that are going to come in and fuck with your thing and don't do that and cut that out. But you had a sensibility, not of a person in management, but of a person that, I know what I like. I know what I like.

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And I think I can think differently than these people do. Yeah.

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He's the Comedy Central executive that thinks they can be a comedian.

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And then they get on stage and they eat shit. What you were saying is exactly what happened to Chappelle. Oh, the Chappelle show. They loved him. He's this wild dude, and then all of a sudden, this is too wild. This is becoming really successful.

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They wanted him to stop saying the N-word. They wanted him to stop a bunch of different things on the show.

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They gave him literally the devil's deal. We're going to give you $50 million, and this is what you're going to get. And he's like, no, I quit. I quit everything, and I'm going to go to Africa. I'm going to hang out in Africa for a while, and I'm going to quit stand-up for 10 years and come back and still be the best.

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Oh, my God. Well, look, he's a legend now, but that's really him. If you're around him, he's an artist in the truest sense of the word.

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Hilarious.

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The problem was it doesn't scale out to the whole country.

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We'll be right back. Check out squarespace.com for a free trial or go to squarespace.com slash rogan to save 10% off your first website or domain purchase. Fires that we're getting. Yeah, but it's a cool place to live. You're not going to stop people from developing in Malibu. It's just too nice. No, you're not going to stop. Just take your chances. Roll your dice.

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I love the things you wrote from jail.

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Thank you. They were really good. It was really interesting. It was like this super intelligent writer who's in jail. It's a different sort of perspective.

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That's actually good practice for dialogue.

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Explain this more to me. This is fascinating to me. Because I've heard many people say this about comedy, that they have to write on paper. I don't. I write on a laptop. I've always written on a laptop. For me, what I like about writing, even writing on paper, is that it takes more time to write The word appreciate than it does to think about what it means to appreciate something.

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Like the word appreciate, you know what it is instantly. Oh, he appreciates this. But to write appreciate, it takes longer, so there's more thinking. And in more thinking, I feel like when you have more thinking, there's more little different ways you might alternately branch off with your ideas.

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What I was going to get to is that when I type, I can type quicker than I can write by hand. And the problem with comedy is it comes quick and slippery. Especially if you're a little lit.

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I'll write a 1,500-word essay and I'll use one line. Like there's one thing in there that might be a bit. But I'll write all this other shit on transportation.

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And I'm not even trying to be funny. I'm just trying to write, and then I'll find something funny in it. And then that's the starting point. Now I take that, cut it, copy it into a completely fresh document. Now what is this? And how do I get to this?

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Well, I'm sitting still, right? If that's what you mean. The thing about typing is I type good. So not great, but I don't have to look at the keys and I can type pretty quickly. And if I have a good laptop, like a ThinkPad that has a lot of finger travel, then you really feel it. And I get into like a zone. And then it's just about like... Yeah, so no, you actually do write your notes. Yeah.

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And then it's just about... But they don't always come out the same way. Because sometimes when you bring them out on stage... the moment lets you know this is not the way to go, it's this way. And then all of a sudden you're like, God, how did I not see that in front of the computer? Because you weren't in that vibe of the crowd. Like I said, you don't do it on your own.

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You have to do it with them. It's like the one art form that literally cannot be practiced in solitary. You have to do it. So when I write, I write like that. But I also write things down on pieces of paper. Like whenever I have an idea, I got to catch it.

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Yeah. It's just fucked up when it happens. Oh, my God. Yeah. I drove home once. We were filming Fear Factor. We had to stop the set early because the fire was so bad. This was like 2003 or something, 94. and driving home, it took me 55 minutes on the five to get home, and the entire time, the right side of the highway was on fire for 55 minutes. Everything, like Lord of the Rings style.

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That's true.

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But what is it that makes it to you like the hand to God? Like what is it about writing on paper?

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Let's have some cigars.

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You should talk about it.

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What were you saying about fun?

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Who wouldn't fucking get it?

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You're a vegetarian? Yeah. Why did you do that? Because his wife made him. That happens. That happened to a friend of mine. He sneaks out burgers every now and then.

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Yeah. There's people that are feral. You ever met a feral person? You don't want to let them sleep in your house. You met a wild, crazy person, you're in jail. So push that thing up. You had it right. You had it right. Did I? This thing right here? Yeah, push that up.

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Pull it down. Yeah, sorry. Pull it down, sorry. Hey, I'm digging this. Yeah, they're great. Foundation Cigar, shout out. You've been around feral people, right? You don't want feral people living in your house. You don't want to take some murderer and give him your car and let him come and sleep in your room. It's different. I should take you around some wild pigs.

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Wild pigs are like little demons. They make like orc sounds.

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Yeah, last time, the last time was the last time. It was like, you know, the last big fire in LA. And I came home from the Comedy Store at like one o'clock in the morning, And my wife and I are looking out the window, and the fire's like maybe 500 or 600 yards away, and it's coming over the hill. And we were looking at each other, and I said, let's just get the fuck out of here before it gets bad.

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You hear them fighting with each other. Wild, wild.

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My point is domesticated people are awesome.

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Domesticated people like yourself and myself, we're fun to be around. We're nice people. We know we're not going to rob you. No one's going to kill you. There's a difference. What the wild –

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It's different. So I understand that you wouldn't want to eat animals, but they eat each other. And it's just this bizarre cycle of life. I think it's where you're getting your animals from. Are you getting your animals from these mass factory farming?

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But you can get meat from like a farm. You know, like you can get it from a ranch. You could go to one of those, you know, they have those, what are those, farmer's market type deals? Oh, yeah. You can go meet a rancher and you can buy beef right from them.

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Yeah, that's good. So you're probably getting what you need. As long as you eat eggs, I tell people, like, eggs are free. No one's getting hurt, especially if you have your own chickens. That's the greatest thing in the world. We have 15 chickens.

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But it's also, it's karma-free. Like, the chickens are having a good time. No one's getting hurt. They're all treated like pets. Like, hey, girls.

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They like to hang out with each other.

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Yeah. He was a chicken farmer.

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Don't want to connect that to chicken farming. It's just dumb. It's like the name Adolf, right? You can't use it anymore. You can't have that little mustache anymore.

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Remember when Michael Jordan tried for a little while? That's how competitive that guy is. He's like, fuck that. I can wear that mustache. He had a Hitler for a while. I think I can make it happen. I'll make it happen. He just decided he was going to force it through.

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Let's just get out of here now. So we grabbed the kids, got a laptop, took some clothes. I didn't even have underwear. I said, we could just buy stuff. Who gives a fuck? Who cares? If you have your life.

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There's nothing creepier than an assassin with a biblical name. Name after an archangel.

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Well, especially when you watch the actual footage of how it went down.

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They were opening the doors for people. I want you to think about it this way. In the most heavily armed nation the world has ever known, why would you have an insurrection with no guns? You gotta have guns. Machine guns. Those guys weren't planning on an insurrection. No. And then you have the factor that there was agents in the crowd. And we don't know how many.

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There's government agents in the crowd that were inciting people to go in. That's what they do.

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Yeah. What about that? Yeah. The whole thing's crazy.

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The whole thing's crazy. And there's this thing that cops died. No cops died that day. That's not true. No. The cop who died, he died of a stroke. And I believe it was a stroke. A stroke or a heart attack.

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But it gets attributed to it, you know, sort of like when, you know, anything happens to anyone four years after the vaccine, they attribute it to the vaccine. Oh, it was probably the vaccine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Could have been the guy just had a fucking heart attack. But this guy who is a cop, he did not die. He was not killed by the protesters.

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And you watch the video of the shaman dude with the fucking buffalo hat. They're walking him around. The cops are guiding him. They're guiding him. How would you ever think that that is going to let you wind up in jail? How would you ever think that if you're an unsophisticated guy who was wearing fucking face paint? Yeah.

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And you're kind of a kook, and you think you're part of a movement, which is really scary. People get a part of a movement, and they, yeah, we're all doing it. And then you've got literal government agents encouraging you to do it, moving barriers, letting you in. They were playing chess, and these idiots were playing checkers, and they all got locked up.

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You don't do an insurrection without weapons. The whole idea is crazy.

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Yeah, I think it was a bad decision, certainly to go into the Capitol. It was a bad decision to smash windows, but I want to know who was doing it.

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Right. That's a very good point. It's like we were a culture of smashing things at that point. It's also as soon as you find out that there were government agents that may or may not have incited people to go in, the whole thing fucking changes. Like, what are you trying to do? Are you there to serve and protect, or is there some other weird shit going on?

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Because it seems like there is, and no one wants to talk about it because you don't want to be that guy. But at a certain point in time, you should be that guy. You should go, what's going on, man?

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Yeah, that is one of them. It's a big one. It's a weird one. And, you know, there's all this pushback about Trump getting into office because he said one of the first things he said was he was going to release all the January 6th prisoners. Yeah. How long do you think they should be in there for? Who's opposing this?

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Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's true. Right.

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Well, they knew what Manson had done because they were helping him.

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He hates firemen. That's ridiculous. Yeah. It is a great job, but you can't get mad at someone for having a great job. For having a great job. There's a buddy of mine that I used to play pool with.

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What a fun game. What a fun game to serve and protect and incriminate you deeper.

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He's got a real tough job. He's not getting enough credit.

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That's a problem with podcasts. When people come over, sometimes we have some of the best conversations before the podcast. So now I have to be rude. I'll be like, stop, stop, stop. Let's not talk. You're all good.

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#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

6267.893

Let's catch that magic. Yeah, because you got to catch it because it is weird. It's a weird thing. It's a beautiful thing, though, because it's so open. There's no studio people.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

632.23

Yeah, that's the reality of our world today. Those people don't get enough credit. But firemen, you know, it is a great fucking job.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

6320.149

Yeah. Yeah, the barrier to entry is so low. Think about the barrier to entry when you wanted to be a director. Oh, God, Jesus. It's fucking crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

6474.844

I'm just fucking around.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

6482.193

I can't wait to watch it and then talk to you about it afterwards. Tim Dillon said it's the worst fucking movie that's ever been made, and he's in it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

649.63

They're just doing their job! The firemen are very comfortable with fire. These people are very comfortable with people dying. Dying because of them. They just get real... They get blasé-blasé about murder.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

6494.462

Oh, but Tim thinks everything sucks.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

6498.264

No matter what everybody's saying is amazing. Tim loves to talk shit about Austin.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

6512.592

He's fucking brilliant.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

6536.357

He's always funny. He said it sounds like Kamala Harris is doing voodoo curses. She's doing gypsy curses, he said. She speaks in gypsy curses. And he always does his show with these fucking crazy glasses on like that's his new thing. If you ever watch his show, it's the best because it's literally just him ranting and a producer.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

6557.514

And the ability to rant as a singleton operator, as a fucking lone person out there without anybody to bounce ideas off of is a rare talent. Yeah, and he's the best at it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

6569.681

I've ever seen bill burrs really good at as well, but Tim Dillon is the best at it I've ever seen he's so fucking good at it, and he's just basically performing to one person who's his producer Yeah, he's just ranting and so because that he's got this crazy muscle that he's developed from years of doing that We just rants about all these different things, but it's fucking brilliant and

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

6593.292

As you know. Well, that's the great thing about you guys doing a podcast together. What I was going to get to is, like, in the beginning, you were talking about replacing the talk show. Well, fucking, you guys replaced Siskel and Ebert, right? Well, that's what we wanted to do.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

6607.442

That was actually the agenda that Quentin proposed to me. Well, both those guys are gone. You know what I love watching is videos of, like, outtakes of those guys, like, bitching at each other.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

6616.268

They fucking hated each other. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They were so shitty to each other. And then they had to be smiley, and what a bullshit way to live.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

6636.481

Like, he lost his jaw. He had to remove his jawbone.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

6660.613

It's crazy if it really worked. That movie, Brown Bunny, I want to talk about that because... I've always thought it's so strange that we can show violence, but we can't show sex. And I know they tried to do that. You ever see the lines outside the movie theater when Deep Throat came out?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

6679.389

Carson was in line. Johnny Carson went to see Deep Throat in a public theater.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

6686.897

People didn't know what they were seeing yet. It hadn't been defined as a genre. There was nudie movies that people watched, stag parties.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

6754.028

But it's fascinating that it didn't happen because what I was going to get to is like violence. We don't have any problem with. But we all agree that consensual sex is way better than someone getting shot in the face. But people get shot in the face in movies constantly. You see heads explode and arms getting lopped off and Game of Thrones and butter. It's constant.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

6822.138

Sort of. But also, if you were living in that world, that would be reality. Nobody lived forever and became the hero of the fucking movie. There's no heroes back then. Everybody's getting gutted. They're getting usurped. They're torn into a dungeon.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

6836.804

You're out of the picture now. You're getting eaten by dogs.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

6983.276

And what's different between that and a film?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

7068.829

Isn't that, though, because it's a different thing, right? Because when you go to a film, film is designed for one sitting. You sit down in the theater. You're going to get the entire encapsulation of what happens to these characters in three hours.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

7175.593

But we do. Right. Right. Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

7187.223

Right. And you can't. Can you do that every week?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

7218.558

I see what you're saying.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

7228.904

Right. It's a different thing, though, right? I mean, this is the weirdness of the theater experience versus home.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

7283.171

They're standalones instead of just a long, ongoing story.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

7450.715

Michael Caine.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

7581.789

See, this is the better version of Siskel and Ebert.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

7588.254

The completely unproduced, uninfluenced version.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

7603.064

It's just a matter of getting it out there. I think there's just a bunch of people that aren't aware of it yet.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

7628.188

Pandora now, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

7630.969

They just signed a big podcast deal with the Call Her Daddy chick.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

7635.151

Yeah. So I guess they're trying to get back into it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

7653.948

But that's the best part of it. Do whatever the fuck you want to do.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

7681.353

By the way, the movie VHS is one of my guilty pleasures. That's a good movie. The one with the devil lady. Yeah. She turns into a devil.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

7690.403

But that one is worth it. Just sit through the other three for that one. The devil lady was fucking amazing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

7706.66

Right, right, right. Yeah. But you could, though. People want to see it. They want to listen to it. It's just a matter of just it being – they'll realize they wanted it once they hear it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

7719.793

That's what it is. It's like, oh, we want them to only talk about Citizen Kane. No, no, no. It's got to be whatever the fuck they actually want to talk about. And then you'll learn about that movie that you never heard about. Maybe you'll go see it, and then you'll have a deeper appreciation of why these guys love movies.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

778.416

The problem is sometimes they have to chop through the walls to make sure that the water's not fire and embers inside. Yeah. Spray it all down. It's a hard fucking job when it's a hard job, though. The thing is, most of the time, they're just chilling. They get to cook. They eat. They work out.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

7812.965

Well, you just have to only approve the ads that you want to do. I approve ads. I don't just let them give me every ad. I'm like, I can't do this one.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

7996.472

And get to understand how you appreciate movies.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8126.79

Gotcha! Is everything on YouTube now? A lot of things. Not everything, but a lot of things. A lot of things. Yeah, there's some certain things you can't find on YouTube still.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8140.581

Right, right, right. It's like whack-a-mole. There was the Gore Vidal film, the transsexual movie with Raquel Welch.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8175.684

Well, that's what he was trying to do. That was the whole movie.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8178.726

Gore Vidal was trying to turn you gay. Can you give me that lighter? Yeah, sure. That's one of those weird ones that's difficult to find. I had to buy a DVD to get it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8208.055

Did you ever see those debates that Gore Vidal did with William F. Buck?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8214.639

Incredible. Gore Vidal always won, though. Oh, yeah. Well, he was right and he was better.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8238.434

I'm sure they had dinner afterwards. You used to be able to have those kind of conversations on television, which is really fascinating. It's like now they exist in podcasts. And the Siskel and Ebert thing, which I was talking about, is like you can't manufacture a friendship.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8255.125

And you can't manufacture a real interest. You can't be a guy who was a local news reporter who auditioned for the role of the guy who reviews movies. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. It's like this thing that you guys have is what this is the whole new media movement is based on authenticity, right? And this is like the whole thing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

826.296

Yeah. No, they lived up to their career. Did you guys work together? Yeah. No shit. That's how you guys met?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8275.398

You want people to not be able to find these movies. You want to just review movies that you want to review. And that's the beautiful thing about it. It's like the perfect show. In that regard, like for a film review show or a film discussion show, it's the perfect show.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8472.095

Well, that's what's more than that, what you just did. This passion for it, right? That's what's more than that. It's this severe commitment to it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8493.16

You might be wrong about the Joker. I'm not sure.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8506.761

I'm just trying to wind you up. Sorry. What's an example of a film that you love that other people hate other than The Joker?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8541.04

Is it because you're contrarian? Can I guess? Yeah. Is it Ishtar?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

855.426

Look at you guys.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8579.367

It doesn't change your ticket price. No, but that is the kiss of death. If you feel like a film is over budgeted.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8595.097

What happened with this film? Where did the budget go south?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

865.672

There was a lot of unfortunate shirts in the 80s. Everybody was confused. They cut the drugs off in the 70s. No one knew what to do for 10 years.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8652.072

Yeah. When a film does get labeled as a bloated film, though, that is the kiss of death. It kind of is. Because the general public will turn on it then.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8671.646

Shut the fuck up.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8678.831

Here's one I bet you can't defend.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8696.84

But you're right about The Postman. It's hard to defend.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8707.345

But then there's films that are so bad, they're great. Like Showgirls. I love Showgirls. Showgirls is fucking great.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8724.213

The sex scene in the pool?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

873.874

Yeah, it's crazy. Like, you would have never thought back then that that industry would completely vanish. You thought blockbuster video is going to be around forever.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8844.612

That's exactly what I was just going to say. I'm so glad you just said that because I always described that movie as a cocaine movie and I was just casting aspersions with no evidence. But it seems like a cocaine movie because it seems like they thought it was great while they were doing it. But it's like, what are you doing?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8862.228

It's one of those things where you think it's great because you're on coke.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8876.293

Isn't that sort of an example of what happened when the 80s were a cocaine culture? The world kind of shifted from a psychedelic thing from the 60s and 70s to a cocaine thing in the 80s, and you get movies like that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8893.237

Well, also, like, a little more ridiculous. See, the beginning, it's pretty good.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8900.508

No, this is where you're losing me. This is where you're losing me. Because how are you keeping a heart on? Yeah, and that it's Kyle MacLachlan of all people.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8915.281

Well, that was huge because it was from Saved by the Bell.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

8931.426

True. Cocaine movies are fun, though. There's quite a few of those that were just like, what is this? Like, how much coke was going around in the 80s? A lot. A lot.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

9050.115

Every person who does a lot of coke usually would buy hand grenades.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

9060.523

Oh, that's hilarious. It became like you're Fugazi. Yeah. Oh, that's so funny. When I worked in Boston at Nick's Comedy Stop, they would offer to pay you in cocaine or cash. There was guys who just took the cocaine. There's certain comics. They just wanted to get paid in Coke. Yeah. Wild times.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

9128.392

Like your friend with the story about being bitter. It's the same sort of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. The same sort of thing. You go, oh, I know where this is going now.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

9146.022

Right, right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

9161.337

When I was growing up, a bunch of people that I knew got hooked on coke, and that's what kept me from ever doing coke.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

9179.838

That gets in the way of mushroom trips.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

9207.033

I think it's like some people don't have the ability to only do that once. Like for whatever reason, some people, they have that thing and they do coke a little bit and then they just want to keep doing coke.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

9218.978

That's scary when that happens. It is scary.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

9231.243

Well, in a sense, it does all the things a demon would do. You know, you could say the demons aren't real.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

9242.315

There's a lot of legitimate evil in the world. And where is that coming from? What's that energy? What begets that? What is the reason why people are willing... You know mass murder like what is it? What is it people willing to launch missiles in the cities? What is that? Where where's that coming from?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

9259.43

there's got to be like that would be evil if you defined it in the classic sense of the word, you know when a Invading army comes to a village and hacks people that's not demonic. That's not evil You're lighting children on fire and throwing them on thatched roofs. That's not demonic. I Seems pretty demonic. Like a demon would do that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

9279.303

Whether the physical demon exists is almost like not even important. It's like demonic behavior is 100% documented. What would Jesus do?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

9288.77

Right, right. Just ask yourself that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

9293.593

Everybody wants to be smart and you want to be secular and you never want to say that you believe in something that's superstitious or ridiculous. So you don't believe in religion, you're either agnostic or you're atheist, that's how you get respect. And it's like this weird thing where you're not willing to consider like, okay, but what are the actions?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

9309.98

What are the actions of good and the actions of evil? The actions are real, right? And we all know in our heart and our soul when you do a good thing, how you feel versus when you do a bad thing, how you feel. So what are those forces?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

9414.227

He clearly lost his fucking mind in the fog of war.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

9421.852

Yes, exactly. Like they all talk. But this is the thing where you're suspicious of power, right? Like why are you suspicious? Well, you should be because you see where it ultimately leads. It ultimately leads to a curse or it ultimately leads to the way to really be in control of people. Like you have to use violence. You can only use words for so long.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

9545.822

Right. And when things are too good.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

9548.824

When things are too easy and you think they're supposed to be easy, you don't understand how they became easy and what keeps them easy. Yeah. Yeah. And that's kind of where we are right now. Okay.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

9561.405

As we are. We're in a Conan movie.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

9576.189

Well, there's also this new thing, which is the Internet and social media. And there's this new thing that has overcome our minds. And it's affecting everyone in this very bizarre way. And it's making people more tribal and more inclined towards echo chambers, more antagonistic against opposing beliefs and views.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

9595.398

So you were saying about being able to sit and have a conversation with someone and completely disagree, but not take it personally. Just disagree about the points. We've lost that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

9672.503

But there's no one in front of him to say that. He's an idiot alone with his phone. If he just said it out loud amongst reasonable people, they would turn to him and go, what the fuck are you talking about? But he doesn't get that check, which is also part of the problem with social media.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

9694.113

Also, you have to be missing out. Otherwise, you don't have a life. How much information do you think you can absorb in a day? How much things can you watch and listen to?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

9706.177

That's a lot of time, man. You have to miss out. There's going to be shit you miss out on. Well, the other thing is, if you're a film fan today, you're not just dealing with today's films. You're dealing with this insane archive that goes back to Rocky. It goes back to On the Waterfront. It goes back to the 20s. Good Lord. There's so many films to watch.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

9903.666

Humble by life.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

10017.004

Yeah. Everybody wants to, like, oh, that bitch, she's on it. So we don't give anybody misinformation. We interrupted this podcast because Jamie found out at the end of the podcast that one of the Kardashians has her own GLP-1 daily pill. It's the latest product capitalized on weight loss drug. This is Kourtney Kardashian, who's the thinnest. She was always thin, which is odd.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

10040.313

So just so people know. But the point was, at the beginning, everyone was calling it the Kardashian drug. Maybe they were right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

10086.171

Okay.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

10087.251

Finally. I tried to talk that guy into quitting his job for like 10 fucking years. From the moment I met him, I'm like, quit that job, dude. You can make more money doing this. I was like trying to convince him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

10112.836

Cam was running marathons in the morning before work when he was working eight-hour days. He would get up 3.30 in the morning, run a fucking marathon, and then take three days off of work, take his vacation time, and go run the Moab 240, run 240 miles through the fucking mountains. That's a regular guy with a regular job.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

10133.4

And if you don't get inspired by that and realize there's more in the tank than you think there is, and people like that, the benefit of people like that is that through their discipline, you can learn that you could do these things too. You can get inspired by it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

10148.746

Maybe you can't run the Moab 240, but you will most certainly hold yourself to a higher standard when you know there's someone out there that's really busting their ass and trying to make things happen.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

10175.885

I mean, that's insane. How about Deontay Wilder? He was driving with Budweiser or Coca-Cola or something like that. Remember who he was driving for? What was it? Coca-Cola? Driving, delivering trucks. At like 21, starts boxing. At 23, wins a bronze medal in the fucking Olympics. So crazy. Crazy. Budweiser. Budweiser. That's just so nuts. Delivering Budweiser.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

10200.652

So the guy's just trying to take care of his family.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

10205.834

He got into boxing to take care of his kid who had medical problems.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

10209.736

He needed money to take care of his kid, so he just said, I'll become a pro boxer.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

10215.018

And it has the gift. This one in a fucking hundred million gift of power that he had. Yeah. It's nuts. But people like that exist to inspire you to do more. And you could say, fuck her, she's on Ozempic. Or maybe she's not. Maybe she eats really healthy and she fucking works out every day. Maybe that. Maybe that too. Maybe instead of going, oh, fuck that, she's on Ozempic. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

10238.345

Damn, that bitch looks good. What's she doing? What are you doing? And then maybe find out what she's doing. Maybe just realize you could do more yourself. And if you did, everything that you could do to make yourself healthy wouldn't even have the urge to look at someone else and say, oh, she's on Ozempic.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

10255.27

You would not give a fuck.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

10281.648

And that's the benefit of SSRIs too for some people. Yeah. For some people. And for Ari, that was the benefit of him. He was really depressed. It was really bad. And I think it had something to do with taking DHT blockers. So he was taking whatever the fuck that stuff is for your hair. What's that stuff called? Yeah, Propecia.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

10298.904

It can really fuck up your hormones.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

10300.586

Some people. And it wrecked him. Yeah. It wrecked him. It got him very depressed. But the SSRIs helped him get over the hump and he eventually got off of them. And when his life is doing better, what a shock. He feels better. He's happy. His career's doing great. He's fucking not depressed anymore. Oh, crazy. They're all related.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

10318.052

People would try to tell you that your life sucking has no bearing on the level of depression that you have. Well, that's crazy. That's crazy. Because there are people whose lives are seemingly on paper amazing and they're still depressed. But I guarantee you, they probably have their priorities off. And I guarantee you, they probably don't exercise.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

10335.68

And if they do, it's some rare imbalance that some people do have.

The Joe Rogan Experience

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You're used to a certain level of adversity. And if you have no adversity, adversity is very difficult to handle. But if you give yourself voluntary adversity that far exceeds anything you're going to experience outside of that, you're way better at handling stuff. If your workouts are so fucking brutal, and I've seen you do Muay Thai, it's fucking hard, man. It's hard. It's exhausting.

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And everything else seems easy. Because when you're on, like, round five, and it's a five-minute round, and you're three and a half minutes in, and he's trying to get you to do switch kick over and over and over again, your fucking heart is beating out of your chest. You've got to finish the round strong. And when you're done, when that bell goes off, you're like, oh, my God.

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Like that feeling you don't get.

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But the feeling of being exhausted, pushing yourself, that struggle is so much more intense than anything you experience other than a life or death confrontation in your day.

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Every time I get out of that stupid ice bath, I feel like that. Every time I go in, I don't want to do it. I know I'm going to go in it because there's two people in my head. There's the general and there's the pussy. And the pussy is like, don't do it. Don't make me do that for three minutes. Don't make me get in there. And the general's like, shut the fuck up, bitch.

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You know you're going to do it. So stop with all these thoughts. Just put the lid up.

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That's the good thing though. That's your win. That's your win of the day that you did that. You need those little wins. Just like we were talking about with Ozempic. You need to get one on the board. Yeah. You know, and get one on the board any way you can. Completing a workout. Write it down. Complete it. You got one on the board. You got a win for the day. That's real.

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It seems like it's not, but it's real. That's why the belt system works in martial arts. Right? You get a blue belt. You're like, oh, I got a blue belt. Holy shit, I'm not a white belt anymore. Yeah. I want to get a purple belt and incentivizes you.

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Well, what do you do with Tim Kennedy?

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It's funny because people will say that that's an addictive thing, which is really interesting. Because one of the things that people talk about with addictions that people are struggling with today, one of them is fitness apps. Yeah. Like, geez, isn't that like the greatest addiction of all time? Like, yeah, you can go off the rails. You can get a little crazy.

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But isn't it the greatest addiction of all time?

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Yeah, or jiu-jitsu a healthy Right addiction exactly it is it's it's a better alternative than drowning your sorrows in a bottle Well, that's also the same pathways of the mind that lead you to negative addictions leads you to positive addictions It's just about it's about channeling that kind of energy into something positive Yeah, I am a hundred percent an addict

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But I have figured out a way to be addicted to all things that are really good that I love. That's the way to try to live your life. It's just try to funnel that, whatever that focus is that leads you to want to shoot heroin. And this also works the other way, too. And there was a guy that I know that was a world championship caliber pool player.

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And wouldn't drink, wouldn't smoke, just drank water, super clean and healthy. And he was one of the top pool players in the world. And he was winning tournaments and gambling and winning a lot of money. And he was like rock solid. This guy was – he would hold down the cash. Like if you bet on that guy, you had a really good chance of winning. He would win by – he would not choke ever. Yeah.

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He got in a car accident and he hurt his back. And the same thing that got that guy addicted to pool got him addicted to pills. He couldn't stop taking pills, man. That weird pathway. And my friend Tommy put it this way. It's like the same thing that got him addicted. He called it. The same thing that got him addicted to pool got him addicted to pills. It's like this obsession.

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So he found this thing that gave him relief from the pain and then he became obsessed with getting more of them. And then one day died. You know, he died young. Yeah. And this was a guy you would never have predicted that. And that's what's so insidious about what the Sackler family did. That's what's so insidious about the opioid crisis is you can get good people.

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And everybody wants to say that wouldn't happen to me. I'm mentally strong. That's nonsense. I'm telling you this guy was as mentally strong as you get. Some people just get caught. It gets them, especially if you're in pain. Especially if you're one of those people that doesn't tolerate pain very well. Some people just, I don't know if they feel it different. I think they feel it different.

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I think it's the only thing. I think just like hot sauce tastes different to some folks, I think some people feel pain different. And you know what? One of the reasons I thought this is my mom got an injection in her knee and she didn't even flinch. They stuck this giant ass needle in my mom's knee and plunged it in there and she didn't even flinch. And the doctor's like, that's crazy.

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This fucking 70-year-old lady didn't flinch. And I was like, that's where I get it. Yeah, it's a high pain threshold. It has to be. I think it's a genetic thing. Yeah. I used to think that it was from being hurt all the time in martial arts.

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They did a very similar thing. They did a rat park. And so they had the rats in the cage and the rats, I think it was heroin that they used. See if you can find what the rat park study was. Very similar type study. And they did another study where they had this enormous cage where the rats could run around. They had toys, things for them to do. And they didn't just do drugs until they died.

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They just went and had a party and lived like normal rats. Yeah. Which is just like all mammals, all humans. We have...

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these reward systems that are built into us heroin or cocaine lace rat oh here it is alexander's experience in the 70s had come to be called rat park researchers had already approved that when rats were placed in a cage all alone with no other community of rats and offered two water bottles one filled with water the other filled with heroin or cocaine the rats would repetitively drink from the drug-laced bottles until they overdosed and died

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Whoops. Fucking pop-ups. He put in rat parks where they were among others and free to roam and play, socialize, and to have sex. And they were given the same access to two types of drug-laced bottles. When inhabiting a rat park, they remarkably preferred the plain water. Even when they did imbibe from the drug-filled bottle, they did so intermittently, not obsessively, and never overdosed.

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A social community beat the power of drugs. And you've got to wonder if that would be the case with human beings. You know, if everyone, I mean it's not possible right now in the world that we live in, but if everyone had a productive, happy, healthy life and was raised in a positive environment, how much less drug abuse and drug addiction would we have?

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It's a good question, because if it really is this horrible childhood that is causing a lot of people to seek these things out, but that's not my friend. My friend who got addicted, he wasn't from abuse like that. It was like a normal family. Everything was fine. It was him dealing with pain, and back pain is some of the worst pain. It's fucking debilitating.

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I mean, I've known multiple friends who've had back surgeries. When they're in pain, it's just like... Takes over everything like I've had knee surgery and you can kind of deal with knee pain It's like yeah, it sucks, but it's gonna get better.

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It'll be okay, but it's not your whole system It's just your knee the back feels like your whole being is hurt Yeah, that's it's a particular type of pain that people want relief from my buddy's dad was in the has been in the hospital and out of the hospital he's in his 80s now and

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God, that's such a horrible thing to hear. Do a surgery on someone who you know is going to die just to make the money off of it.

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It's the same with everything in the human race. Whenever it's incentivized by money, people don't go to what's best for people. They go to what's going to make them the most money. And that's the weird world that we find ourselves in with people defending that because their ideology opposes the opposite. Yeah. It's nuts. It's a weird, weird, weird fucking time.

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But listen, brother, I'm glad I met you. I'm glad you're out there. I'm glad you can speak about these things the way you can with so much information. You're so knowledgeable about it and you can pull it up at any moment. It's... It's a daunting task that you have, but I think your message has changed a lot of people's lives. I really do.

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I think there's a lot of people that recognize that between you and all these other people in the space, Peter Atiyah and Andrew Huberman and all these people, Dr. Rhonda Patrick, all these people talking about health and what you can do to improve and studies and all these things you can do to change the path that you're on. I think it's affected countless lives.

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Yes. Yeah, let's hope they keep doing it. And this Make America Healthy Again idea is one of the most promising political ideas I've heard in a long time because it's long overdue. There was a long time where they were denying that cigarettes caused cancer. They denied it as long as they could, and then eventually they couldn't deny it anymore.

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And I would hope that we would learn our lesson from all these other things they did, all these other things that they used to push, and now they realize they're dangerous, and they really regret that they did it, and people went along with it. Time has come. Time has come to change the way we approach food and health. I agree. Thank you.

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My pleasure. Bye, everybody.

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Well, it just goes back to that $8 billion. That $8 billion has an effect. I'm sure these journalists aren't sitting there watching this Senate hearing going, you know what? I'm outraged. I feel like these people are full of shit. I'm going to help the American people and write this piece criticizing it. No, they're probably being instructed.

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It's so weird that they've been able to do this for so long in such a shifty way. It really is. Because there should be laws against that. If there's laws against insider trading, how's there not laws against manipulating narratives in order to profit at the expense of people's health?

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Did you see the article that I put on my Instagram that they put in the Atlantic? Is it time to torch the Constitution? Did you see that? I did.

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Did anybody try to take the side of the pharmaceutical drug industry? Did anybody question you or try to push back?

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Same people. They're putting a narrative out there to the general public. They're like, whoa, he makes a good point. Maybe we should just give up all our power to Satan. Yeah. Literally, they're literally saying, should we torch the Constitution?

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And he probably barely knew, right? You consider how much information was available to your grandpa. I know. He just had sort of a nagging suspicion that it's all corrupt and crooked.

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Or even the GLP-1 crisis. Yeah.

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Well, I think I understand your perspective. Your perspective is for chronically obese, like really morbidly obese people, we need to do something. And this is a very good step. And it does work. And it can help people. It is a very good step. I'm the hardcore discipline guy. I'm the like, what the fuck are you talking about? This is something that you can solve just by eating less.

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Something you can solve by cutting out sugar, cutting out sodas, cutting out eating whole ingredient foods, eating fish and chicken and red meat and vegetables and cutting out all the bullshit.

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That's real. That's a real thing that you can do. However, if you're 600 pounds, if you've gone so far down the wrong road, you need a hand.

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But it's not as profitable. Yeah, that's the real problem. And the advertisements about that, they seem to me the same advertisement. It's the same feeling I get when I see advertising about giving babies COVID vaccines. Like, what the fuck are you talking about? Like, you're just trying to make money. You're not trying to protect babies from COVID. That's fucking nonsense.

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It's not a problem with them. It's just not. It's just statistically not an issue. It's certainly not an issue for you to be promoting this potentially dangerous, dangerous remedy.

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No question. There's been proven studies that show that SSRIs aren't as effective as exercise by a large measurable amount. Like exercise is more effective at curing depression and treating depression than SSRIs. That's a fact. Yep. But, you know, you can't make money off of someone running around this block unless you sell them sneakers. Yeah.

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You can only sell one pair of sneakers like every six months.

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I want to talk about you, because one of the things that's interesting about this is like, You were unhealthy at one point in time and you were overweight and this is how you kind of started this journey. And maybe a lot of people aren't aware of that. Yeah. Like you weren't, you had to learn all this stuff and you had to learn all this stuff through your own personal health crisis. Yeah.

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Oh, my God.

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Let me ask you this.

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So when you did this, how much time did it take overall from the original nutrition intervention to hormone optimization? How much time are we talking about?

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Do you think that the reason why they make it very difficult to get hormone optimization is because if more people get hormone optimization, more people are not on these medications?

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I like how you had your guts there. But, I mean, that's all highlighted in that Netflix documentary that Peter Berg made about the Sackler family, which is –

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Not documentary which called docudrama series that fucking series is so enraging and after that you know that one guy that they Kept in a hotel room for like two days of the FDA who knows what they did for that guy to that guy What the fuck did they do to him where they got him to approve that they found that guy?

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That guy was in a small town in New Hampshire, and they ostracized him people were just The sheriff was like trying to highlight how many people in the community had died of opioid overdose and how much blood was on his hands. Well, he took a job with the Sacklers.

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Oh, my God. Jamie, pull up that tweet that I sent you from Jay Bhattacharya. So Michael Pollan, he's highlighted the dangers of pesticides. The USDA funded a PR organization that worked with agricultural interests to downplay the harms of pesticides in farming and to compile defamatory dossiers on opponents of pesticide use. including food writer Michael Pollan.

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Just imagine that the USDA spends money to defame people. Using your tax dollars, spends money to defame people that are trying to tell you that there's poison in your food. Measurable amounts, something along the lines of 90 plus percent of Americans have food roundup in their system. They have glyphosate in their system from crops.

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Revealed, the U.S. government's funded private social network attacking pesticide critics. So what does it say about this? 2017, two United Nations experts called for a treaty to strictly regulate dangerous pesticides, which they said were a global human rights concern. Which, by the way, Roundup is illegal in a lot of countries.

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Citing scientific research showing pesticides can cause cancers, Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's, and other health problems. Publicly, the pesticide industry's lead trade association dubbed the recommendations unfounded and sensational assertions.

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Look what it says here. Publicly, the pesticide industry's lead trade association dubbed the recommendations unfounded social assertions, and private industry advocates have gone further. Derogatory profiles of the two UN experts, Hilal Elver and Baskat Tansak, are hosted on an online private portal for pesticide company employees and a range of influential allies.

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Members can access a wide range of personal information about hundreds of individuals from around the world deemed a threat to industry interests, including the U.S. food writers Michael Pollan and Mark Brittman, the Indian environmentalist Vandana Shiva, and the Nigerian activist, you say that one, How do you say that? How do you think you say that name?

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Nemo?

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Nemo Bossy. Many profiles include personal details such as the names of family members, phone numbers, home addresses, even house values. The profiling is part of an effort which is financed in part by U.S.

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taxpayer dollars to downplay pesticide dangers, discredit opponents, and undermine international policymaking according to court records, emails, and other documents obtained by the non-profit newsroom Lighthouse Reports.

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It corroborated with The Guardian, The New Lead, Le Monde, Africa Uncensored, and Australian Broadcast Corporation and other international media partners on the publication of this investigation. The efforts were spearheaded by a reputation management firm in Missouri called VFluence.

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The company provides services that it describes as intelligence gathering, proprietary data mining, and risk communications. The revelations demonstrate how industry advocates have established a private social network to counter resistance to pesticides and genetically modified crops in Africa, Europe, and parts of the world, while also denigrating organic and other alternative farming methods.

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Wow.

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No, that's unfounded. That's an unfounded assertion. More than 30 current government officials are on the membership list, most of whom are from the U.S. Department of Agriculture. This is so crazy. It's so crazy that this is so blatant.

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$8 billion a year just in advertisement. Imagine how much they're making so that they can afford $8 billion just in advertising.

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They're insiders from their space and they know. The only way it's going to affect people is these viral video clips have to go online and people have to share them on Facebook and Instagram and Twitter. Thank God they can, you know, because who knows if the government could clamp down on it the way they have in other countries. Other countries have severely clamped down.

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And there's been some real issues in America, but America still is the best place to distribute information. I mean, X is banned in Brazil right now. There's a lot of shenanigans going on all throughout the world where people are trying to control narratives. And it's fucking spooky. It's spooky.

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Well, it wasn't for you. You know how banged up I'd be, dude? How many times you've helped me with stem cells? I, you know, I talk about it all the time, but I know there's a gentleman that I'm friends with that I've just been talking to who's going, he's about to go to a disc rehearsal. He's getting his discs fused. And I'm like, Jesus, have you looked into other options?

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Have you looked into stem cells? I mean, you could go to Tijuana, and I know those guys at the CPI have treated many people, including my friend Shane Dorian. He had fantastic results. My friend Tom Land in Utah as well. He went down there and got his spine injected. Fantastic results.

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You're very, very good about that. I think that's very important to say, that you're not a competitor of these people. You feel like there's more than enough for everybody, and you're more than happy that these people are around.

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A lot of these doctors, unfortunately, are ignorant as to all these other remedies that are effective.

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But I think it's also what I was saying that a lot of these doctors aren't aware that this stuff works. I told you about my shoulder injury. When I went to the doctor, he told me, you are going to have to have surgery. You're going to have to bite the bullet one day and have surgery. And I was like, shit.

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He goes, you could try other things and it might help you for a little while, but you're going to have to have surgery. The only thing that gave him pause is when he did the strength tests with me, where he pushed down on my arm and did all that kind of shit. But I just think that's because the muscle around the damaged joint was strong. And so he was like, well, you know, you're pretty functional.

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He goes, the MRI, you shouldn't be able to do all this stuff according to your MRI.

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Yeah, well, kudos to Aaron because the team doctor was trying to tell him to avoid all that stuff, including stem cells.

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It's just nuts. And I think the doctors aren't doing it because they're bad people. I think they don't know. I think they don't have time to do the deep dives. Most doctors, how much peer reviewed literature do you think most doctors who are in orthopedic surgeons who are in practice, how much are they absorbing?

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How much time do they have between malpractice insurance, between medical school bills that they're in debt with, between the overhead that they have to run their practice? I mean, they have to get people in and out of the office quickly. Yeah.

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But all this takes time. Correct. This is the issue. If you want to move people in and out of the office, all this takes time. One of the things that you guys do at Waste to Well is you do comprehensive blood analysis. When I sit down with Denise, my eyes glaze over and it's my body. It's like, God, there's so many details to cover. There's so many things.

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But by following those directions, I've noticed a giant difference in my overall health. It's amazing. It is amazing, and it's unfortunate that this kind of resource is not available to more people, where more people don't have access to a doctor that's going to look at them comprehensively, look at their whole body.

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If you're going to take care of your yard, if you're trying to grow plants in your yard, and your trees are all dying, your vegetables weren't growing, if you have the resources, you can go to a botanist. Or you could go to someone who understands farming, someone who's a scientist, and you could say, what's wrong? And they could do soil analysis. My friend Steve actually did this.

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He was trying to put a garden in his house in Brooklyn. And they found that leaded gasoline from all those years, from the 1960s, all those years where they used leaded gasoline in Brooklyn because it's polluted, all that shit had gotten so deep in the soil That his backyard was contaminated with leaded gasoline. And so you have to do a detox on the backyard.

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So there's certain plants that you can plant that can help in that process. There's certain treatments to the soil that can help in that process. Why aren't we doing that with the body?

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I never thought about that in terms of guns, like shooting guns. When you shoot guns, if you go to a range and shoot guns, how much toxic chemicals are you absorbing?

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Yeah. Think about all the things that they breathe in that are on fire. I mean, look at how many veterans have suffered because of burn pits. Yep. Which is an insane thing that they did. They said, oh, we have all this garbage. What's the most cost-effective way to get rid of it? Let's make a massive fire that runs 24 hours a day and throw tires in it, fucking plastic, everything.

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Whatever the fuck you got laying around, throw it in that burn pit. Oh, and when the wind blows and that shit goes straight through camp, that's what everybody's breathing. And who knows how many people develop cancer because of that? I know multiple people that I know personally that have developed severe illnesses and even died because of that.

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Didn't he develop? I think he developed a disease that was theorized that it came from burn pits. Oh, I don't know. See if you find that. I believe that's true. I believe he served... It wasn't meth? No, that was the other son. One son was the good guy. Biden addresses possible link between son's fatal brain cancer and toxic military burn pits. Isn't that insane? His own son.

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So he couldn't even protect his own son. I mean, he's a powerful politician.

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There's a lot of people that vehemently disagree with a lot of this stuff. And there's a lot of people online, like the people that write the articles, the woo-woo stuff. They just don't know. There's no way they actually knew what was going on in a comprehensive way and would still write those articles. You would have to be evil.

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I don't think those people that are writing those articles are evil. I think they're doing a job, and I think they're being directed, and I think they're being directed by people that have a vested interest in this information, just like we talked about with that USDA thing. They have a vested interest in this information being dismissed. And there's money behind it.

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There's a financial interest behind it.

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It's just the problem is Trump as a person. People just react to him in the most negative way. Yeah. And they are fully convinced that all of his negative character traits, all these negative things are unbefitting to a president and therefore he shouldn't be president. Yeah. I think anybody who wants to be president is fucking insane. They're all insane.

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I think it's just like kind of everybody else that's a leader in almost every industry. I think they're insane people. I don't think you get to the top of any heap unless you're out of your fucking mind. And you could be out of your mind in a vicious – sort of demeaning, attacking all your enemies way like Trump is.

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And it's still the same drive is what led that guy to deal with this shit for four years where they were trying to put him in jail so that he doesn't run again and still run again. And they try to kill him twice and he's still running. It's like you... I mean, I don't know...

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And my point is the only way you get someone who's not affected by that is you have to have an insane person. It's literally the best tool for the job because everybody else. All the different – the 34 counts which were not felonies, which they upgraded from a misdemeanor which passed the statute of limitations, all of them were bookkeeping errors or mislabeling things, which is illegal.

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They're minor offenses that would not get anybody prosecuted legally. Much less put in fucking jail. Real potential for him being in jail. And people want him to put him in jail. They want to put him in jail for a long fucking time. And it's crazy. You're doing it at the same time where ICE admits that. What are the numbers of murderers and convicted criminals that have made it into this country?

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It's something bananas. And this is just verified. This is verified data.

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do you know what it is jamie because i could find it because somebody somebody sent it to me and i i literally couldn't believe it's real so i'll send it to you and you can find out if it is real because if it's true it's bananas and the the just the sheer numbers they're scary these are scary numbers man it's like no one thinks this is a problem and i'm not i'm look i am the product of immigration my grandparents came here at a time where it was very easy to come here

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And I just sent you a screenshot, see if you can find out if it's true. It was very easy to come here, and a lot of people who came here were criminals. Look, a lot of people in my family were criminals. They were Italians in the 1920s. My grandmother went to jail. When I was a kid, my grandmother went to jail for bookmaking.

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My grandmother's sister murdered her husband. So, yeah, I grew up. These are wild people. These are people that came over on a fucking boat before YouTube. They didn't even know what it was like over here. They took a chance. They took a chance. So I am completely sympathetic to immigrants, but you can't let in fucking gang members. Okay, there's got to be some kind of screening.

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You want to make it easier to get in for people that are hardworking, people that just want a better job? I'm with you. I'm with you. Just make it easier for them to get in. Make it easier for the people that have been here for 20 years to become citizens. Make yes. I know people. I know a kid who was – she's 28 now. She was born in America.

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But her – no, she was born in Mexico, but her parents brought her over here when she was a baby. So she doesn't speak Spanish. She has been in America her whole fucking life, and she's not an American citizen. So she can't vote. She's limited in the kind of jobs she can do. It's fucking weird. It's weird that we do that.

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But yet my grandparents just came over on a boat and fucking – they write a piece of paper and they're in. It's nuts. Yeah. We should have a screening process to keep evil people out. That's it. Everyone else. Look, you imagine if you're born in Guatemala, wouldn't you want to come over here and get a job as a landscaper? Fuck, you could make 600 bucks a week, 700 bucks a week. Oh, my God.

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And then you live in a family in a house with a bunch of people, which are used to doing anyway. And then someone branches off and makes their own business. And all of a sudden you're living the American dream. This is what we all want for everybody. There's enough for everybody. But you can't let in murderers. This is crazy. And you can't let them in and ship them to swing states.

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It's just so in your face. Ship them to swing states, and then there's all this talk now of amnesty for all the people that came in. I'm all for amnesty for the people that have been here their whole life, like this girl that I know, who's 28 years old now. I'm all for that. Yeah. Yeah, that makes no sense. She should be American. She's a fucking American.

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She pays sales tax and all this other tax. Yeah, yeah, those people. But there should be some sort of a screening process. You know, if you're in fucking gangs that bring in fentanyl, hey, maybe we should let that guy in. And this is the whole idea of having borders in the first place. And what's shocking... is if you try to come here legally, it's very difficult.

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I've had friends from Canada, like comedians from Canada that want to move to America. It's a long fucking process to become an American citizen. It's difficult. And you have to do homework. You've got to answer tests. But if you just walk in, they'll give you money, they'll house you, they'll give you an EBT card, they'll give you food stamps. What the fuck are we doing?

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Well, we must be doing something. So it's either one of two things. Either we want cheap labor, and this is what Tim Dillon thinks. He thinks that the cheap labor market for construction and all these jobs that most people don't want to do anymore, it's falling off a cliff. And the best way to sustain those industries is to bring in cheap labor.

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And the best way to do that is to bring in migrant workers. Because they're willing to do jobs that a lot of people won't. And this is the positive side of like Springfield, Ohio, where people talk about the Haitians that moved there. The people that employ these Haitians say these people are hard workers. They're so happy to be here. They want the American dream. That's great.

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That's what we want. We want more of that. That's all good. But... You can't make it insanely difficult for a college educated person from Norway to move here because they want to do literally like when Chamath was on, he explained that when he was over here going through his visa process, they had to show that he was doing something that an American couldn't do.

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You have to be someone of exceptional skill. Oh, that's wild. A very difficult person to find. Yeah. And then you could get a passport. I mean, you can get a green card and eventually become a U.S. citizen. But it's a long process and a difficult process because every year where you go to get your visa renewed, you're at the whim of this person. Who knows if they had a bad day?

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Who knows if their fucking wife just started fucking the mailman and they found out about it and she drained their bank account? And he's like, fuck you. Go back to Canada. They can do that to you. They can do that to you at a whim. But if you walk in, Nancy Pelosi wants you to get amnesty.

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It's difficult for them to acquire. It's difficult. So let's see what it says here. Department of Homeland Security Spokesperson Turd Newsweek. The data in this letter is being misinterpreted. The data goes back decades. It includes individuals who entered the country over the past 40 years or more, the vast majority of whose custody determination was made long before this administration.

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If there was a real easy way out – Like, if there really was a pill with no side effects that cured all your ails, sure, people would want that. And this is the problem. The advertising, that $8 billion a year, it leads you to believe that there is some sort of a solution in the bottom of a prescription bottle. Yep. And that's not real.

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Okay, so, but you are still saying that those people are here, right? noted that his letter that ICE is bound by statutory requirements not to release certain non-citizens from its custody during the pendency of removal proceedings. He added that most non-citizens who are convicted of homicide are typically not eligible for release from ICE custody.

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They're like, listen, if you fucking kill people, if you're an illegal alien and you sneak across the border and you kill Americans, how about nobody's eligible for release? How about that? Let's just start with that.

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Bill, we have so much money for Ukraine. It may be shocking to hear the Biden-Harris administration is actively releasing tens of thousands of criminal illegal aliens into our communities, but their own numbers conclusively prove this to be the case. This defies all common sense, read a statement. Newsweek has contacted the Harris campaign for comment via email outside of standard working hours.

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Uh-huh. What does that mean? What is standard working hours? Oh, that's why they didn't get back to them? It was outside of standard working hours. The email arrived at 5.15. Put that back up again. Department of Homeland Security spokesperson told Newsweek the date in this letter is... This is the one that says... So this is a Department of Homeland Security spokesperson says it's being misused.

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Scroll that down. Scroll that down a little bit further. See what it says there? Congressional Republicans voted against them twice. Democratic presidential candidate added, we took executive action to reduce unlawful border crossings. See, this is the thing that gets weird.

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It's like, you know, they say that Trump, the Biden administration is trying to say that Trump blocked some sort of border wall bill because he wanted it to be something that he could campaign against. So he instructed the Republicans to vote against it. There's so much that kind of fuckery. I don't know if that's true or not, but it's the possibility of that being on the table.

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I'm not accusing anyone of doing that, but imagine a world where a person could conspire, and I'm not saying they did, but a person could conspire to make something happen because that would be something that they could campaign against. Look what you did. And that's how dirty this game is. That's why nobody wants to do it, unless you're fucking crazy. Unless you're crazy like Trump.

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And he just weeds. He sent Mark Cuban a letter when Mark Cuban's television show failed in like 2004 or whatever the fuck it was. And someone posted it on Instagram today. See if you can find it, Jamie. But it's so petty. It's so petty, and the fact that he signed it and sent it to him. It took time out of his day to have someone draft a letter. Probably didn't type it himself.

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Have someone draft the letter and send it to Mark Cuban in the mail. But it takes that kind of a person to literally make their way through the system. The only way you get through all these attacks. And we've seen the full force of it. It's like we've seen all the orcs that were hiding in the forest. They all came out to attack.

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That's the problem, is that they've been misled so long and for... so far down the line, and here they are, chronically ill, suffering, and they're hoping it's the next pill.

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This is from 2004. Mr. Mark Cuban. Dear Mark, I'm truly sorry to hear that your show has been canceled for lack of ratings. When I initially called you to congratulate you on The Benefactor, little did you or I realize how disastrous and embarrassing it would turn out for you. If you ever decide to do another show, please call me and I'll be happy to lend a helping hand.

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With best wishes, Donald Trump.

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But what a crazy backhanded... Why? I don't understand. I mean, what beef? They must have some kind of beef. They've had a long beef. What is the beef about? The guy's hilarious. That is hilarious. It's hilarious that he takes time out of his day. Yeah. Not just like say, good, fuck that guy. That show got canceled. Takes time out of his day to write like... A conciliatory. I'm sorry.

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Sorry this happened to you, man. Yeah. You fucking loser. Like, he literally writes it in there. The whole thing is wild.

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I think we can.

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Yes, and I think it will, and especially in today's day, I've seen so many videos sent me of your testimony, and I've had them recommended to me on Instagram, too, from accounts I don't even follow. So it's getting around. But I think... What's also interesting is that social chaos, it unveils things. It unveils things about human beings.

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And that is one of the benefits of having a guy that you can decide is Hitler. Like even though half the country loves him. Half the country loves that dude. Maybe more than half the country now. There's a lot of silent loves that guy people. Because they realize like there's not a lot of other options out of this other than a fucking crazy person who would write Mark Cuban a letter like that.

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You need to be insane to pull this off.

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And you might need to be insane in a way that you or I would find distasteful.

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You were genuinely shook by it, but what I told you is the truth. Nobody cares. Don't read it. Nobody cares. Don't read anything about yourself, even good things. Nobody cares. People know what the fuck is going on. They get to hear you talk in forms like this. They get to hear you actually talk and lay it out. They know who the fuck you are. All this is all just noise.

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But the good thing about this kind of noise, this social chaos, is that it unveils all this corruption. It unveils the orcs that are hiding in the forest. You see it. And I am convinced... If they know the efficacy of foreign countries using social media bots to attack people, they know that that works. They know that that shifts narratives, especially for people that are sitting on the fence.

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They know all that stuff works. If you don't think that there's companies in America that we're not aware of that organize social media campaigns and have bots attack certain individuals like yourself... for having a dangerous narrative. If you don't think that, you're crazy. You're naive.

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They don't care. This is just about money and just about justifying the things that you're saying, the narratives that you're pushing to try to get that money. If they came out with an article saying,

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If someone did a peer-reviewed study that showed that if you drink exactly 13 glasses of water a day, you never get sick and you never get cancer, there would be articles the next day saying if everyone drinks 13 glasses of water a day, there'll be no water for black people and people of color and indigenous people.

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The trans people would die of dehydration and the wells would dry up and then the crops and we're not going to have food and there's a lot of impoverished people. You don't need 13 glasses of water a day. There would be some sort of a justification.

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If you came up with some sort of a diet that you could follow and everyone would live to be 150, there would be an article about how dangerous it is to tell people to stay healthy. Because if we all live to be 150, the resources will all be doubled up.

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And don't you think there's a way that companies can do this and make money in an ethical way?

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It's going to replace a lot of things. And anybody denying the efficacy of AI at this point is ignorant. You have to be ignorant, willfully. You have to be willfully ignorant because they have used AI right now to diagnose diseases that people miss. They believe that AI is going to allow to assess breast cancer in a much more effective way because it can do something with visuals that,

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You know, human beings can't see with the naked eye because you're detecting things. AI is going to be able to have a much, much higher percentage of a chance of catching that cancer.

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This is how crazy the world is that something that straightforward, the way you laid it out so brilliantly, someone could label that as bad or woo or woo-woo.

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That's why it's so fascinating about ideal. That's what's so fascinating about ideological capture, that the thing that you would think would be one thing we could all agree on. We should all be healthy. That that would get attacked. And that it would be more cost effective. You could use technology and you have a much more comprehensive understanding of your health. And that gets attacked.

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That's how upside down things are. And there's people that if they think it... Helps their their career or it helps them in in journalism. It helps them get more. They will be the attack dog. They'll be the attack dog and go after someone with about as straightforward a message as you can get. Yeah.

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And they're insanely addictive, too.

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You know, it's not like anything else. Addiction to gambling is like you can stop going to the casino. Yeah. But addiction to food is like you have to eat food. So every day you're testing your will. Yeah. Every day in a profound way that if you stay out of the casino, you're not, you know, like he's not being tempted.

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But you have imagine if you were a gambling addict, but you had to make three bets a day. Yeah. What? You're a food addict, but you have to eat three meals a day. That's fucking insane.

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Well, it's an unfortunate name, Food Babe.

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What you're saying is so straightforward and so beneficial to everyone across the board. If there's anything that you would want in life, like, have you ever been sick, real sick? And you're like, God damn, I can't wait to be better again. It doesn't matter if you're rich. It doesn't matter if you're happily married. You love your job.

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A lot of people don't, but some people actually do. They actually do realize at that moment, like, I can't let this happen again. Like, whatever I did to my immune system, pulling all-nighters, working at the job fucking 16 hours a day, and then you get, like, a horrible flu and you're bedridden for two weeks. Yep. During that time, the one thing you want more than anything is to be healthy.

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You ask a healthy person what they want, they give you a thousand things. You ask a sick person what they want, they want to be well. They want to be well. If you told a person who's worth, like, Bill Gates money, if you said to Bill Gates, hey, you know, you could have the flu for the rest of your life and keep all that money, or give it all up.

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You're going to have to start from scratch, but you'll be healthy.

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How much of an effort has been put forth after the whole Sackler family crisis and the opioid crisis to to mitigate the amount of these things that are prescribed?

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Like, how do you even clean this up? You ever see those hoarder shows? You're like, what the fuck do you do with all this? It's almost like us. And the opioid crisis thing, the really scary thing is we're propping up cartels. We're propping up really vicious people that are criminals. They have to be vicious. That's how you get ahead in that world.

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There's no rules when you're in organized crime and you kill a lot of people. And that's what you prop up when you have drugs illegal, but now if you have drugs legal, If you just have – I mean this is a dilemma as well, right? Because if you just had legal drugs, everything was legal. How long would it take before people figured out to not do cocaine?

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How long – if you could just get cocaine the same way you can get Coca-Cola, how weird would that be?

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Get America healthy. Anybody would be opposed to that. That's, I think, also a real problem with liberals during this election. The concept of make America healthy again is so bipartisan and so universal and so clear. And the fact that the Republicans are running with it. They're so mad. That should have been something the Democrats... The Democrats used to be anti-poison.

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The left used to be anti-corporations dumping pollution in the waters. They were against big corporation. They were pro-free speech. They were against censorship. They were pro-reasonable discourse. They weren't... about censoring people and that everything's just gone so topsy-turvy to have the left be against a movement. What you should be saying is, yeah, fuck Trump, but...

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This Make America Healthy Again thing, it's a good idea, and we should probably do it too. We should probably just steal their idea. We should probably say, whatever you guys are going to do, we're going to do it too, but we're going to be a better president, so go with us. If they were smart, that's what they would do. People, oh, you stole that idea from Trump. She should say, yeah, I stole it.

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It's a good idea. I like good ideas. I'm not dogmatic. Show me a good idea, I'll accept it.

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I mean, especially, you know, what they did to Peter McCullough. Peter McCullough is the most published doctor in his field in human history.

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He's not a quack. Jay Bhattacharya, he's a professor at Stanford. Right? Isn't that where he is? What? These are the fucking actual experts. These are the real experts. Like, you guys are out of your fucking minds. And you're saying this is misinformation? But the problem is misinformation is like, you know, label it homophobe, transphobe, misogynist.

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Once they look racist, once they get you, they put that on you, misinformation. You spread misinformation. Yeah. You're like, what? What misinformation? Tell me what wasn't true.

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Most certainly. I'm sure. And you probably got attacked anyway once they realized that it was gaining momentum. It's very creepy. And I wonder like at what level they can manipulate things at Google and at YouTube. I mean, there's a level that they can actively suppress videos and they can actively suppress social media accounts and social media posts.

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You know, when my special was going to go live on Instagram or on Netflix, rather on Instagram, Cam Haines put a thing in his story saying that it was going to go live. And they said that he couldn't mention me. He wasn't allowed to mention me. He wasn't allowed to mention me. Yeah. I forget what the label was.

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So someone has their clause in Meta that's able to suppress information. Someone has their clause in YouTube. Someone has their clause. And you could use whatever label. You could say the advertisers don't want to advertise on this because it's a controversial subject and that's the problem. Okay, if that's all it is. But then it should still get a lot of views.

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So if you want to withhold advertising... But the views are substantial. That means that it's really being shared in a normal way with something so outrageous and something that gains that much momentum that quickly. It doesn't make sense that Peter's out that quick. It was too profound. It resonated with too many people.

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That's the hard pill for people to swallow, diet, lifestyle, and nutrition. It's very hard for people who are addicted to shitty food, who are lazy, who don't have a history of exercise, and their lifestyle sucks, and they get home from work and they like to drink.

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But they're smart in that all they need is one or two articles in a respected publication to cite, to point towards the fact that this is misinformation. And someone from whatever organization would look at that and gloss over it. We'll suppress that.

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And that's all you think. One step further.

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Also, the people that work in the FDA, if you've been working in the FDA for four years, how much of a dent do you think you could put in the momentum of the machine that's behind you? What are you going to do? You're going to stick your neck out? You're going to get it chopped off. You're not going to move up the corporate ladder. It's not set up that way.

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And that's just the reality of being a human being. And you go, hey, I do my best. Most of those people are like most people. They're good people. Most people in all walks of life are good people. But sometimes good people do bad things because they can or because they have to.

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So it doesn't even incentivize innovation. Correct. That's crazy, especially with something like replacement joints, which you would hope... I mean, they've gotten a lot better at that. How many people do you know that have had hip replacements? I know a bunch. Yeah, a lot. I know a bunch. Yeah. And it's like they're walking around, like, quick.

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Graham Hancock came in here six weeks after his hip replacement.

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And, you know, he's 150,000 years old. Yeah. According to his aging. Everything's older with him. That's funny. No. I mean, Graham's got to be in his 70s, right? And back then, I'm not sure how old he was. This was back when we were in L.A. But he was walking around six weeks later. Fine. No limp. Nothing. I mean, it's extraordinary what they can do now. It's amazing.

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6400.936

Okay. I do not. There's a real crisis in California with home insurance. Pull up the home insurance crisis. Home insurance is sky high, and particularly in areas where they have wildfires because they lose so much. You know, where I used to live in California, I was evacuated three times.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

6420.466

Yeah. And the last time, my kids were real little, and we went in the middle of the night. We had to take off at 2 o'clock in the morning. The fire was coming over the hill that was maybe 200 yards from us.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

6436.296

Insurance keep dropping California homeowners. Changes are in the works to try to stop their cherry picking. So they don't want to insure houses that are likely going to burn or going to fall off of a fucking hill. I remember I was watching this news special about Malibu, and there was a mudslide in Malibu, like a landslide.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

6459.456

So these people, they parked these fucking $5 million houses on stilts on the side of a hill. Like, hey, why do you think the side of the hill varies so much? Do you think maybe it moves? Do you think maybe over time shit fucking comes down? It's not like a smooth skateboarding slope. No, it's an unpredictable mass of land that's affected by years and years of drought.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

6484.471

So when you get drought, you don't have plant growth. You have no plant growth. You get more erosion because there's no root systems. And then chunks of this fucking hill were falling off. And these people were in the middle of the night. They heard cracking. as their house was breaking apart in the middle of the night.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

6499.638

Their house started breaking apart and falling down the hill, and they got out just in time. It was crazy. The guy was like, I just heard cracking. I thought someone was breaking in. Then we got up, and we didn't know what was going on. His house was cracking.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

6515.193

There's a lot of claims with wildfires. There's not that many claims with landslides, but this is one that was like... California has some real natural disaster problems, and the big one happens every 20, 30 years and hasn't happened since 93? The earthquake thing. Yeah, that fucking thing that happens over there all the time where everything fucking shakes and houses fall down and...

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

6541.306

like highways pancake. The first time I ever came to Hollywood, I was doing this thing for MTV and I came out here right after the earthquakes in 93. And I was like, this is nuts, man. I remember driving by a highway that had collapsed on another highway. It was like right afterwards.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

6628.112

The biggest one I've ever been in was a small one. It was like a 5.5, and they said it was actually an aftershock of the Northridge earthquake. But it was right after I moved to L.A. So it was like 94. I was sitting in my apartment. And all of a sudden, my apartment moved like a refrigerator box.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

6646.437

You know, if you're a kid, you'd play, like someone got a new refrigerator, your kids would play in the box and fuck around, make a little hut out of it. Yeah, yeah. You know, carve little windows out of it and shit. It was like that. The whole apartment moved like that. It wasn't even any noise. It was just the shaking of the building. But it seemed so flimsy. That's all I could remember.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

6666.081

I remember being like, oh, my God, I thought you guys were tougher than this. Like I thought the house was tougher. I thought it was in a building. I thought it was in an apartment building. It was a two-story apartment complex. It just went like this. Yeah. And then it stopped. And I remember going, I got to get the fuck out of here. I can't live in this place.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

6690.256

Like, this is going to happen again.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

6704.103

Oh, my God. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

6706.425

And I was just like, this is scary. Like, scary. Well, and then tsunamis, the real scary thing, man. Phew. Those videos of the Fukushima tsunami where people saw it coming and they're trying to get away. Those are horrifying.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

6722.673

Somehow or another animals know. When tsunamis happen, all the animals go to seek high ground. Okay, what is that? What is that? It's crazy. Someone should fucking study that. They're getting some kind of information. Some message from the universe is telling them to go to high ground. How?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

6759.773

Dude, you're so alive. You're so alive in the mountains. I went elk hunting, and I got successful on the second day, which you can't pass up. It just was a perfect scenario, and I got successful. But I wanted to keep going. I wanted to stay out there. When you're out there, just the physical act of being in the woods is like a vitamin that you don't know you need until you get it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

676.866

Somebody called it the woo-woo. Yeah, I saw that. Let's dive in. First of all, fuck you, whoever wrote that, because there's nothing woo-woo about anything you guys were saying. That's what's really crazy. To say that toxic chemicals that are illegal in other countries but are legal in the United States, and there's a reason why they're illegal.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

6785.776

You're like, oh, I need this vitamin. Yeah. That's what I was saying, like a wildlife photographer. That'd be the dopest job ever. You're just in the wilderness photographing wildlife.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

6812.335

Should we torch the Constitution? The Atlantic thinks maybe we should torch the Constitution. It's like, why? Well, you know, it's all these interests. And I think the social chaos aspect of today, this is what I find interesting because I think it forces these kind of conversations. It forces people to deal with these problems. It forces it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

6832.36

Instead of like this healthcare issue being this insidious, never talked about thing that slowly crept up and just became ingrained in society to the point where everybody just accepted it. Instead of that, You have this rebellion, and you do have this Make America Healthy Again movement, which everyone should embrace, but yet it becomes ideologically captured by the right somehow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

6854.306

And if you are with that, if you think, hey, that's a great idea those guys have. I know they suck when it comes to women's right to choose. They suck when it comes to whatever, fill in the blanks. But I like what they're saying about this. Yeah. We're so lost in this team thing that is ingrained in our fucking DNA, and they play us with it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

6873.514

They play us with it because we have these undeniable tribal instincts. It's just like when you roll a ball of yarn past a kitten. They can't help it. They got to jump on it. They have these instincts.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

6924.935

The problem is ideologies. The real problem is tribal thinking. Because everyone should just embrace this and think this is really a good idea. But the fact that it's been attached to one political party, it makes it a problem for the people in the other political party. And that's what's nuts about us. Even things that are universally good, that everyone should strive for. Better health.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

6947.731

I've seen articles written that people that go to the gym are more likely to be right-wing. Like, what are you talking about?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

696.219

You could find all the different things that they do to the body, all the different damage they cause. To say that that's woo-woo is so crazy. Like, what did they list as an example of woo-woo?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7.397

What is that like?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7013.804

All this is true.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7015.105

All this is true. But what I'm saying is that just the concept of getting all these things out of our food supply, making people healthy, getting people off of all these prescription drugs, making people more metabolically healthy. We're so stupid with our tribal shit that just that concept has been pushed into the realm of right wing. You got it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7036.236

If you're that, you're a MAGA person, you're this, you're a fucking, you're a loon. Yeah. It's so dumb. And it's the thing about going to gyms, being right wing. I've seen multiple articles written about going to gyms, being right wing. Have you ever been in a fucking yoga class? Okay? Yoga is one of the hardest things to do. They're some of the most left-wing motherfuckers on earth.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7058.709

They're nice, kind people who bust their ass in a 90-minute hot yoga class. That's fucking hard to do. It challenges your character. Okay? The idea that, like, the only people that exercise are right-wing... That is so dumb. That's so limiting and so stupid and such a ridiculous way to think. You should want to be stronger. Everybody should want to be stronger. You know why? Because it's good.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7082.085

I like that I can pick things up. I like that if someone in my house needs something open, they give it to me and I can just open that motherfucker. I like that. I like that I can carry things.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7125.117

But it is a thing now. And that's the problem. It's been effective. It's like many other things. It's effective until people wake the fuck up. That's the thing. You know, there's not a lot of people going out getting COVID vaccines now. You got to be a true believer to go running out. It doesn't mean they're not still trying to sell it. I was watching the Beetlejuice movie the other day.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7142.688

So in the beginning of the Beetlejuice movie, they play all these fucking cool previews. Oh, that's coming out. That looks fun. And then they have a John Legend COVID vaccine commercial where he talks about how he's, I'll protect myself from COVID while he's fucking playing the piano. And he, like, rolls down his sleeve to show you a fucking Band-Aid. You're like, what did you do?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7212.834

it's not you could throw a diet coke and kill them you know like it's not like they're they're already at a deficit and they we're trying to help people not be at a deficit let's get people back to normal we just have to change the way people think about things we have to change this ridiculous idea that your health care provider knows everything they don't your general practitioner he doesn't there's no way and that's one of the things that um you

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7239.288

Casey Means has talked about how little nutrition information she got in college, which is really nuts. But that's just the fact of the matter. That's just really what it is. And also, most of those people are also unhealthy themselves. We just have to stop thinking about it as a right-wing or a left-wing thing. It's dumb and it's dangerous. It's bad for you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7259.364

And I know it's hard to change your fucking – people are like battleships. It's hard to change course. It's fucking hard.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7295.626

Which is why they're trying to stop telemedicine. Yeah. Exactly. It's not for you. It's not good. And it shouldn't be legal. And that's where I believe in government oversight. There should be like an actual government person who can never get a job with any of these organizations, never get a job.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7311.121

It should be like if you agree to take this job on, you'll be well compensated, but you will never be able to work for pharmaceutical drug companies ever.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7341.69

Just think about what you said about war. Think about what you said about the American people, how many die from chronic disease every year. And think about how much money we have spent on a war that we're not even in. I mean, what was the overall, what's the latest? Didn't they just send another few billion? A little bit here, a little bit there.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7361.98

I mean, I wonder how much they set aside for those people in North Carolina and Tennessee from that hurricane. Because those people are fucked. A lot of people are dead, man. I was reading this account. It was a horrific account of these people, grandparents and a child that were on a roof. And it was before the roof swept away, the building swept away and they drowned.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7382.366

But there's a photograph of the last photograph of them on the roof. And they're terrified. And this little girl and her grandparents are on this roof. And the water is everywhere. I mean, there's so many washed out streets and so many washed out bridges and the roads are gone. Have you seen some of the aerial photographs? I have. It's terrible. It's terrible.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7405.31

Houses floating down the street in Asheville, North Carolina. Just floating down the street. And how much relief are they going to get? Is it going to be like Maui where you give them $700? Which is the most—that's more insulting than giving them no money. A one-time fee of $700, you lost your house in the most catastrophic wildfire in the history of North America.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7430.866

Are you going to give them $700 each? But you're going to give Ukraine $170-whatever billion?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7453.296

That's very valuable land if everybody defaults. And not only that, but the governor was on record – give a speech like right after the fire. And one of the things they talked about was the state taking that land, which is an insane thing to do, right? Was it the mayor? Who was it that said that? Was it the mayor or the governor?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7472.206

But it was just the fact that they said it out loud is so insane in the wake of these people suffering this catastrophic loss. They didn't even know how many people were dead at that time. People were just missing, kids missing, burnt alive. Who knows how many people died? I don't even think they have an accurate count right now of how many people died.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

750.547

But it's just stunning that people are willing to whore themselves out to write a hit piece on someone trying to help human beings find healthier choices and realize the root cause of all the diseases that we're facing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7501.685

This is crazy. I know. This is crazy that they're saying. Now, think about allocating that kind of money towards health care. 102, the death toll from the deadliest wildfire in over a century has risen to 102. Yeah, but what I asked you is what did the governor say about acquiring the land, not the death toll? Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7522.572

I don't think – I think 102 is the current estimate, but I think there's a lot of people missing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7556.744

Dave Smith was explaining it to me. I don't really – I don't know. I haven't researched it. I haven't read anything about it. But, yeah, that's what I've heard as well.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7578.638

There's always money behind it. Yeah. But it's also Ukraine is one of the most mineral rich places on earth. Like it's worth trillions of dollars and all sorts of different like groovy shit that we need to make stuff with. Yeah. What is what did the governor say?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7607.368

I'm already looking for states to acquire... Ways. Ways for states to acquire Lahaina. Put that in a search engine.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7619.344

So he said in his speech, but it's not time.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7623.025

Yeah, you've got to look. I started using Brave browser recently. I gave up on DuckDuckGo. DuckDuckGo seems to have gone the way of Google. It's very difficult to find things that are inconvenient. But Brave seems to be uncensored and doesn't seem to be curated. But after I said that, they'll probably get them, too. I don't know who to use. I don't know what to do anymore.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7644.431

It's like the whole thing is so bonkers.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7663.154

It's only in independent journalism now. You get that from Michael Schellenberger, Matt Taibbi, Glenn Greenwald. You get that from those type of people. You don't get that from anywhere else anymore. And it's good that we have those type of people, that they're there, and they'll hold people accountable and tell you the real numbers of things. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7679.798

You know, and give you the facts behind what caused conflicts, not just report on the conflicts, but explain to you what happened.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7689.84

He said, I'm already thinking about ways for the state to acquire that land so we could put it into workforce housing, to put it back into families, or to make it open spaces in perpetuity as a memorial to people who are lost. That is a crazy thing to say. Because as soon as you say state to acquire that land, and we'll decide the awesome things to do with it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7709.311

That's now you took very, very, very valuable land. And you could say, hey, we're going to sell it to a resort. And the resort is going to donate to all these wonderful funds. How many people are missing from the fire, Jamie? Oh, my God.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7726.394

Because the problem with fires is, like, you need, like, dental records and shit. You know, like, when it gets down to someone dying in an inferno. Well, if they're missing at this point, they're gone. I have a buddy of mine that was a firefighter, and he told me some crazy shit. It's just going into a building with burning people in it is madness. Okay, so 1,000 people reported missing. Whoa.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7752.97

Yeah, so this death toll. Way off. Shut the fuck up. 85 deaths were confirmed, but I think the problem is when they can say 102 deaths confirmed and they don't say, but yet there's 990 people missing. You can say that because it's very difficult to confirm who these people are. There's not much left. It's so scary. Fire is so fucking scary.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7776.537

And when you've been evacuated by fire, there was one time where I was coming home from the comedy store I got evacuated the same day. But as I was coming home from the Comedy Store, as I was driving to my house, the whole right side of the highway over the tops of the hills was in flame.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7794.332

Like all the hills, like as you get like woodland hills and shit in flames, just in flames, like fire coming over hills. You're watching houses go up in flames. It's such a weird feeling because that's when you realize that we all have this very naive idea.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7809.475

And by the way, people working on wildfires and those firefighters who work 24-7 and just fucking stayed alive on coffee and those people are fucking heroes. Yep. But there's not enough of them. Okay, when this cop told me, this firefighter rather told me when we were doing Fear Factor once, He goes, one day.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7828.446

He goes, one day a fire is going to hit the right conditions with the right wind and it's going to burn through LA all the way to the ocean. We can't do anything to stop it. And I was like, really? He goes, yeah, when they get real big, there's nothing you can do. And I always thought that guy was just, that was hyperbole until I saw what happened in my fucking neighborhood.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7845.552

And I was like, this is nuts, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7856.815

What is this, Jamie?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7872.199

Oh, September. But I thought it was September of this year.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7874.64

No? So is it still September 2022? So it says 100 days after the Maui fires, four names remain on the missing list. So they found a bunch of those people? Is that what you're saying?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

788.107

Imagine that statement. Yeah. What does metabolic health have to do with these diseases?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7886.364

Oh, there's only two missing?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7891.966

Oh, so the death toll is 102? Yeah. So why did they say, so the death toll was elevated when they thought 1,000 people were missing? Is that what it was? And then those people had a, there's only two people missing?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7917.069

So 1,000 in 2018, September 18, 2023. Yes, right after. And then in November, they had narrowed it down to four people? Yes. Okay, go back. What's below that? Why are so many people still missing in Maui? That's in September of 2023. What does it say? They have an explanation, but I'm hoping maybe New York Magazine has an explanation that makes more sense. Oh, you sons of bitches.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7948.023

Did Maui officials release the 388 names of people unaccounted for in the Maui fire?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7958.908

But what it says right here is more than 100 within a day. August 25th. I'm reading it. 388 names of people unaccounted for following the deadliest U.S. wildfires in more than a century. More than 100 of them or their relatives came forward to say they're safe. So this was in August. So 100 of the 388 people. So that number of 1,000 was just the initial number. Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7983.386

That's still crazy, 300 people.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

7999.337

Yeah, but you probably don't report when you're staying with relatives in Honolulu because your house burnt down in Maui. You probably just go over there and stay there.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8013.688

So that's good that there was less people died. That's for sure. But it's still fucked that they're trying to take the land. And that what they're doing is they're making it very difficult for these people to rebuild. And most of them haven't even started yet.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8087.102

Oh my God. So when you got water coverage, you thought you were getting coverage from shit like that?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8098.291

Can you get insurance for a tree dropping on your house?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8116.078

What isn't a racket?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8121.804

Well, some church isn't a racket. Some church is great. Some church is very beneficial for people. I think that a lot more as I'm older. I think it's like a good – I think Zuby said this. I think he called it like an immune system. It's a good immune system to protect you from the bullshit in society.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8162.486

Soon as you let people have money doing a thing and as soon as you you can attach something to something that people are deeply opposed to, like whatever Trump is for, you're against, you know, no matter what. It's just it's when you could find a thing like that. That's the enemy believes it. People are so reluctant to look at real data.

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#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8181.781

Even the people that don't want murderers and rapists and drug dealers sneaking across the border, they'll find a way to say, like one of the things they like to say is, migrants statistically commit less crimes than people live here. That's what they say. They love to say that one. But you know what that is? You know what that's accounting for? Gang violence, people that are in prison.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8207.838

You're looking at everybody. Statistically, they commit less crimes. Yeah, there's a lot less of them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And also, we have a lot of crime. So what the fuck are you trying to say? It's not like the average person is out there committing all these crimes. No, it's a very small number of people that are career criminals.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8226.55

They're poor people. They grew up in terrible environments. They started doing crime when they were young. They're criminals. They're career criminals. There's a small percentage of those, and they fucked the numbers up. So if you want to say that migrants statistically, okay, statistically. But statistically, that's not what we're talking about.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8251.405

Right. I mean, how do they find those statistics when they say that migrants are less likely? First of all, they're not even arresting them in some places. Like, were they treated as sanctuary cities? Like, people are dealing with that in Aurora, Colorado. They're not even arresting people. They commit crimes. Cops will tell you they can't arrest them because it's a sanctuary city.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8276.6

Apparently San Francisco, according to some people that I know that are living there, is getting better because of AI. So Chamath was saying that when the super nerds are running things, everything's great. But as soon as the mid-level people start taking over, they get through with ideology. They get through with progressive virtue signaling. And that's how they get ahead.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8298.575

Because they're mostly mediocre people. And so when they start to get a grip of the city, you're kind of fucked. But if the AI becomes the dominant force in the industry again, then the super nerds will be back in control again. And if the super nerds are in control, they'll fix all these things. Because it's logical.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8314.726

It's logical to not have people camping on the streets and fucking shooting up in the middle. parks and stuff.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8348.161

of the average human and like it's there I walked by the Tesla store the other day at the domain I was thinking of buying a robot oh they have them there they have a robot I don't think you could buy it but if they could buy it I'd be like I would probably buy that robot I was talking to my kids like you guys think we should get a robot it'd be awesome Would you trust that fucker?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8366.305

You trust that fucker? Russia could hack your robot.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8383.632

It is entrenched but it's mostly illegal to use. Yeah. It's like mostly illegal what they're doing. you know, if the FBI is really using your Wi-Fi to follow you around your house all day long, that's kind of a violation of your privacy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8397.537

And that's a real technology that's available now. And it should be available if there's a situation where there's a fucking terrorist and he's in a house and he's got a suicide vest and you can use Wi-Fi to locate him and know exactly where he is and you protect all these other people. So that's justification for having some kind of technology in the hands of some intelligence agents.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8416.244

That makes it great. But if you're using it to gather dirt on old Brigham, because Brigham's got a big old mouth when he's talking about the pharmaceutical drug, and you have a fucking group of people that are working to put together a dossier on you, it's all nuts, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8452.345

We're going to need universal basic income, according to most people who understand economics. I don't know if they're right, but it makes sense to me. Universal basic income scares me because incentivizing people to not work scares me. You know, giving people an excuse to not – it's bad for people. It just is. It's bad for kids.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8471.794

If you just give your kids everything they want and they never learn how to work hard, you're fucking them up. And the problem with just giving people a check, they're not going to want to – if you get enough to eat and you have recreation money and you have a roof over your head and you don't have to work at all.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8487.541

And working for a little bit more than that, and then you lose those benefits, fuck that. I would rather pare down my lifestyle.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8559.435

If you wanted to look at it long term, if you're being objective and not taking into account human emotions and suffering and the disruption of lives that it's undeniably going to cause, if you just wanted to look at us objectively, you would say this is an inevitable transition, a very painful transition into a technological world. And human beings are going to have to adapt.

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#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8579.549

And if this was available to them when they were babies, they would have adapted to exist in that world. They would have find things to do for a living that only humans can do because they're very personal things that only humans can do. There's always going to be a market for handmade things. There's always going to be a market for I like a painting that I know the guy who made it. Yeah.

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#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8600.301

You know what I mean? I love that. I love that. I look at like that painting up there. My friend Taylor made that. I know him. I hung out with the dude. That's Mitzi, right? That's Mitzi. But there's a big thing that Taylor made that, and he's my friend. I know him. That's a piece of him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8621.499

Art's amazing. I love it. It makes me feel different. When I'm looking at something that someone made... It makes me feel better.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8638.949

It's the only thing I'm allowed to have in my house. I'm not allowed to decorate my house because it would look like a fucking baby's house. It would look like a man baby. It would all be like toys everywhere. I'm not allowed to decorate my house. But I do have three Greg Overton paintings.

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#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8657.016

Everything else, my wife figured everything else out. I'm just like, go ahead. Just give me a little space. Give me a little something. I got an elk head in the kitchen, in the dining table, over the dining table. First elk I shot with a bow. But it's not like the stuff kind. It's just the skull.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8672.264

Do you have any taxidermy? No, I don't. Taxidermy, that's dolls. Yeah. You know, that's what that is. My friend Tyler does it. You know, I love Tyler from Archery Country.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8681.332

He makes taxidermy. Taxidermy is an art form.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8701.931

Yeah, especially in Texas. My friend told me that he went over to this guy's house and the guy had a stuffed chimpanzee and the chimpanzee, when you got near him, it was like rigged where his eyes would light up and his dick would pop up. Like they had it, you know how you walk by those haunted house things? You walk by him, his eyes light up and his dick pops up.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8726.104

Because of you, we watched, what was the Chimp? Oh, Chimp Crazy? Oh my God. Oh my God. It's insane. Insane.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8756.015

They're mentally ill, crazy people who have giant primates that live in their house in cages.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8764.042

Oh, yeah. They all take their noses off. Oh, my God. Yeah. They rip their eyes out. Yeah, it's nuts. And for the first four or five years, the monkey gets to go everywhere. So the chimp gets to go to the pizza place. Everybody loves them. Chimp gets to go here. But then they get a little older, and now they're in a cage all day.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8780.176

So they used to be free. They used to go to the town. Everybody was their friend. Yeah. Now, all of a sudden, they're in a fucking cage. And when they get out of that cage, they... Fuck people up. They're so mad.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8800.506

They castrate them. That's why that lady's 15-year-old. She can hang out with it and watch 2001. That's a castrated 15-year-old chimpanzee. That's why it's so skinny, too. It looks like Michael Jackson. Skinny. The other ones look jacked, you know? They look like Mike Tyson is prime.

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#2208 - Brigham Buhler

882.848

You can't dismiss someone who's giving out factual information because they're a so-called influencer. Some people get into influencing for a good cause. And they have real valid information and they collect that valid information and distribute it. And that's how they get a following.

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#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8837.418

Of course he was. I mean, when you're that jacked in your 70s, what are you on?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8842.86

Like, what do you want to be that jacked in your 70s?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8846.504

Guy's probably out of his fucking mind and partying. Did you really shit on someone's head? Is that real?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8876.93

I don't know how much – But these are just allegations.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8885.015

Imagine how much liberty you have to take with the truth if you make up a story about someone shitting on your head. Yeah. I feel like, you know what, this, whatever happened, not bad enough. I want him like shit on my head. Let's like say shit on my head.

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#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8899.662

But to make that up, you'd have to be, that's such an insane thing. But when you look at Vince McMahon, you go, I bet he did that. Yeah. I bet he did it. Yeah. He looks like he's insane. He's fucking jacked.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8939.037

Oh, it definitely does to people. For sure. It must. It has to. I know it does with comedians.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8945.281

Comedians like become their character. Like Andrew Dice Clay used to be Andrew Silverstein. Dice was a character that he used to do in his act. And then it just became him. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8953.726

You know, and like Sam Kinison, same thing. Like Sam Kinison became the beast because that's what everybody wanted. He was like captured by it. He became that guy. Yeah. Yeah. If you're Vince McMahon and like your whole thing is, fuck you, I run this game. You're all out of your fucking mind. I'm going to shit in your head. He probably just... Pushed it to the limit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8972.269

Plus, he added a lot of recreational substances, which I'm sure there was plenty of.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

8994.763

Have you ever seen any of the More Plates, More Dates videos about Tren? No, from Derek? I've watched Derek.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9005.411

But there's so much talk about Tren violence. for whatever reason, and sexual deviants. Like guys who turn gay when they're doing Tren. These guys are taking crazy doses of this super powerful steroid. And they're just doing wild fucking things. They get Tren cough. They get like a crazy cough. And just out of their fucking mind. Just deviant. That's crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9039.564

But if you want a career in pro wrestling, and you want to be a fucking animal, and you want to get hit by a chair every night, like you're traveling across the country, probably a good jug.

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#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9067.932

The Rock. Isn't that crazy? I mean, he's got his little injuries and shit like that, but the guy looks like a fucking superhero. He's 50 years old. He's been through, like, how many years of WWE? Also played football? And look at him. He's fine.

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#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9081.918

The most anomalous of anomalies. Because all those other guys that I met, Jake the Snake. I mean, Hulk Hogan's fucked, man. His back's fucked. He's got to walk with a cane. He's all banged up. And you see him shrinking. Well, his back's all fused. Literally, they're shorter and smaller than they were from all the back and spine surgeries. He's lost like four inches.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9098.67

So four inches of spine being compressed. So nuts. It's so crazy, man. And he said it was from that drop. Boom. He would do that all the time. Every time he did it, he's compressing his spine.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9108.838

Just ruined his back doing that. Yeah, it's scary. Yeah. Speaking of someone who looks like a chimp, how about Brock Lesnar? When he flipped through the air and landed on his head?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9117.847

Brock Lesnar would look like a shaved chimp. Like, if you see a shaved chimp, like, that's what he's... Have you seen his daughter? Except he's too wide.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9126.216

Like, a collegiate wrestler? She's jacked.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9132.343

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9132.944

Pulling into the harbor.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9141.61

You're alive anyway. And you see that guy get off a boat with a sword. Yeah. That's what the Vikings were.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9150.155

That's a great joke. They did do a lot of that, too. They raped everybody. The Vikings were unbelievably brutal. And they did a lot of drugs, too, apparently.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9171.592

Yeah, it was so good. Great show. My wife bailed on it after a while. She couldn't deal with everybody getting hacked to death by swords. Like, after a while, you're like, okay, stop.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9195.347

Oh, yeah. The actual things that they did, they really did. Yeah. Which is just they were so nuts, man. But there's been so many instances like that in history of like groups of unbelievable savages that accomplished insane things just by pure barbarism and slaughter of innocent people.

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#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9217.227

Like the Mongols. I was watching something about Mongolia today. These guys who are fitness influencers went to go experience these Mongolian wrestlers. And these Mongolian wrestlers are like these giants of Mongolia, these fucking tanks. These dudes are throwing each other around, and they got to eat food with them and hang out with them and experience it. That's what's left over.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9253.944

I think he was dealing with Genghis Khan's son.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9256.887

I think he was dealing with Genghis Khan's son. The empire was already in decline by that time. You know, it's like once Genghis Khan died, his sons took over, his family took over, and then it kind of fell apart after a while because you need a fucking psycho. Yeah. You need a guy who's got DNA.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9271.759

And what was the number, Jamie, when we last looked at like what percentage of the population in Asia has Genghis Khan's DNA? It's something nuts. Like 5% of everybody. Like still has it. This fucking guy who lived in what, 1200? When did Genghis Khan live? I think it was 1200. Yeah. So all these years later, this dude has 5%.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9305.998

It's nothing. It's nothing. Okay, it's more than that. It's 5% of the male population. Excuse me. 0.5% of the male population worldwide. Half percent. Half percent. Right, not 5%. Worldwide. But what is it in Asia? That is still crazy. 0.5% of the male population worldwide. But what is it in Asia? In Asia, I think it's nuts. 8% maybe? Is that what it says? Okay. 8%. That's nuts.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9337.322

So 750 years of Genghis Khan's heritage, this mutation occurred in 8% of males in 16 different populations that were being studied. So one half of a percent of everyone on earth, 8% of people that live there. That is insane. So what was it like when he was alive? Was everybody fucking their cousin because you couldn't help it? Because Genghis Khan fucked everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9358.97

So when they would conquer a town, he would take everyone's wife. He would just kill all the men, fuck all the ladies. They all became his wives. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9428.547

What's the myth aspect of it?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9446.184

So it wasn't a pandemic of rape. Right. There was a lot of raping going on. Well, there's, like— Yeah. I mean, if you go back long enough, it's all rape. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9456.533

How far do you have to go back in human history? Was there any cave people that were male feminists? They were barbaric. They killed each other. They stole wives. I remember reading this book about Comanche where they're talking about this one Comanche warrior who wanted this other Comanche's wife. So he killed the guy and ate a piece of his heart and then took his wife. Like, that was humans.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9482.697

That's what humans did.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9493.247

Is that Taylor Sheridan?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9495.749

And if they do it, and Taylor's going to do it by the book. I know Taylor. He'll do it by the book. By the way, he's got a great steakhouse he just opened up in Vegas. The Four Sixes, Four Six Steakhouse. I think it's like a pop-up right now, but we ate at it last time we were in Vegas. It's fucking great. It's all meat from his ranch.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9515.147

Cool guy. Got his own ranch. Makes a steakhouse. Supplies the meat. It's fucking incredible.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9539.098

Dude, he's a cowboy at a ranch a friend of mine works at in California. Oh, really? Yeah. He, like, did real cowboy work. Oh, that's cool. Before he ever made it in show business.

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#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9556.004

He's a great podcast guest too. Very interesting guy. Super fucking smart. And those shows, all the Yellowstone shows are fucking incredible. And the new ones are the best ones. If you go from Yellowstone was great, and then 1883 was great, and then the last one, the 1923, the Harrison Ford one, that's fucking great. They're all great. They just get better.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9578.619

I think 1883 is the most recent, and that's my favorite. That's the one when the family was making a cross. I love because it shows how...

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9595.257

And so accurate. Like, so accurate as to how people died and what they dealt with and... Fuck, man. People falling off wagons, getting run over by the wheels like that kind of shit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9631.873

At the very least, if we're not here for something, at the very least, we can maximize our time here. You know, one of the things, the reason why this is very important to me is everything I do, I need energy. Everything I do. I need a lot of energy. I need a lot of energy to do stand-up. I need a lot of energy to do jiu-jitsu. I need a lot of energy to do archery.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9652.29

I need a lot of energy to do podcasts. I need a lot of energy to do UFC shows. If you're weak and tired, you won't be as good at anything you do. Anything you do. And the one thing that you have control over... If you're a person that takes care of your diet and exercise, the one thing that you're going to have control over is you will be able to give your vehicle more energy. That's real.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9675.405

If you really do the right things in terms of with your health, you rest accordingly, eat the right foods, take vitamins, work out.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9699.181

You don't even need a fucking gym. If you have a YouTube account and a laptop, you can watch yoga videos and you can do them at home. If you get one 35-pound kettlebell. My friend Keith Weber, he's got this extreme kettlebell cardio series. He's got a bunch of different ones that you can do. But there's a few of them that are online. And I did one the other day. It was fucking brutal.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9718.777

35-pound kettlebell.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9720.819

It doesn't cost anything to get one of those things. How much is a 35 pound kettlebell? You get it once, you never have to buy another one. And me, after all the years of using kettlebells, I still can get a fucking ass kicking workout with one 35 pound kettlebell. And if you think you can't, follow that YouTube video and try.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9752.995

Yeah, you've got to move around. Otherwise, your body's feeble. If your body's feeble, it's not going to be able to handle diseases, not going to be able to handle injuries. How many people die by falling down because they're older? You know, this is something that Peter Attia talks about quite a lot, is that it's very important for older people to lift weights.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9768.745

You know, not for vanity, but to be able to protect yourself from falling. If you're falling and you're feeble, you can't do anything to stop the fall, you know?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

980.654

It's dangerous and it's spooky that you get pushback after that. So let's talk about the pushback because it was immediately afterwards. You started texting me like, dude, holy shit, these hit pieces are nuts. Because you could see the machine moving against you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9852.139

Oh, my God.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9860.902

But the problem is that science is very difficult to verify, especially science that's given to you by the pharmaceutical drug companies. Because one of the things, was it John Abramson who's litigated these cases against pharmaceutical drug companies? One of the things that he was saying is that he was part of the Vioxx thing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9877.068

That when you get the peer-reviewed data, you don't get access to the data. You get access to the review of the data. And you also don't get access to all the studies that they did that didn't show a positive. I'm sure you saw that Steven Crowder thing where he caught that COVID czar guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9894.293

When he was talking about monkey pox, the monkey pox drug. That's nuts.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9905.558

That they were trying to sell more of those drugs. And that the reality is most people aren't going to get monkey pox. It's like you have to get it from gay sex.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9911.661

Sorry.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

994.319

So you could see that someone saw this Senate hearing, realized that it could potentially have an impact, and tried to do their best to mitigate those potentially positive effects for the health of American people. But it could cost them money. So they started pumping money into these media outlets.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9969.993

And it got called the Kardashian drug, which was brilliant because there's no evidence they took it. Oh, really? I've never heard any evidence they took it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9977.859

But it's what you heard about. I saw it on Twitter, the Kardashian drug. In the early days of these GLP-1s, Ozempic and Wegovy, they were talking about it and people were calling it the Kardashian drug. And they were saying all these women in Hollywood are taking it. I don't even know if they took it. Because I know they have trainers, you know? So they might have just worked out.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2208 - Brigham Buhler

9997.515

It might be bullshit. Yeah. But everybody's like, oh, they're doing it. Those bitches. Like, one of my wife's friends sent her an image of this woman and said, oh, my God, everyone is on Ozempic these days. Just because the woman was skinny. It's like, first of all, that lady's always been skinny. You can find pictures of her from 30 years ago. She was skinny. Like, what are you talking about?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

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This episode of the Joe Rogan Experience is brought to you by Call of Duty. You know, when a new Call of Duty drops, everyone's trying to find a way to squeeze in those extra hours of gameplay. I get it. Life is busy, but sometimes you just need it.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

10008.503

Yeah. God damn it. I was promised in the late 60s, admittedly, I was young, a jet pack. We're all going to have jet packs. Flying cars, remember? Flying cars. It didn't happen to this day. I'm still pissed off about it.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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That's what was crazy. And we were getting shit on left and right during the campaign where I compared him. I said, Biden being president is like having a flashlight with a bad battery and going for a long walk in the woods. There's no fucking way. It's not going to make it. And people were saying, no, don't you know he stutters? Well, there's no evidence of him stuttering when he was younger.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

10020.552

Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

10020.832

Yeah. But anyway.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

10022.974

Do you imagine how bad people drive if they were just flying around? Thinking about that idiot that T-boned you with that idiot's in the sky checking his phone and he slams into you and you both go crashing into a target. My truck would be a fucking mess at this point.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Both sides. Not just one side. Both sides. Now, I think we did solve a couple of things, but...

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

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I think we had a fun conversation. That's all I expect. But I always wanted to get your perspective on things because you're one of the few people that actually knows what they're talking about with these things.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

10051.438

So I appreciate you very much. Thank you. And if you don't mind me mentioning one more time.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

10057.58

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

10059.381

thank you for the invite that we had for UFC 303. Oh. I took my boy out there. Nice. He had the time of his life. He hadn't been to the fights before, and he's a UFC fan, so he knows what he's doing, or he knows the players. Yeah. Had a great time out there. Oh, good. It was a great card. Glad you had fun.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

10077.315

That was a great card, too.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

10078.757

Oh, 303. It looked like it might not be. Right, but it pulled up. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

10081.779

Pulled up at the end.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

10082.8

Really? Yeah. Very nice. Yeah, that final one with Pereira was great. Yeah, gosh.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

10086.903

That's fucking terrifying. Holy shit. He's so terrifying. Oh, my God. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

10092.428

No, it was really good. And I thought one of the best ones was Macy. Oh, yeah, that was a great fight, too. Yeah, she did really well.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

10101.375

Yeah, it was a great card. Yeah. Anyway, the Vegas fights are always fun. But thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

10105.538

I appreciate that. My pleasure, brother. All right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

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Tell everybody one more time, your podcast, how to get a hold of everything.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

10112.042

Yeah, it's the President's Daily Brief. It's available on all podcast platforms. It's twice a day. You're in, you're out. We tell you the key things. We don't take up a lot of your time. And then Bob's your uncle. And then we do a weekend show. And you can find that on our YouTube channel, at President's Daily Brief. And it's also on the first TV. So we're kind of all over the place.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

10132.933

It's doing very well. And I think it's doing well because of what we talked about. It's just the news. Yes. And it's concise. And it's just the top three or four issues going on at that moment. But it's just the news. It's not like some opinion thing where I'm spending a lot of time telling people how to think about it.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

10148.718

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

10149.079

You know, I mean, occasionally I might let something slip, but for the most part. So I think there's an appetite for that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

10163.168

1440?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

10163.288

This is like objective news. I get an email. I'm on the email list. Yeah, that's it. Okay. I recommend that. It's very good. Excellent. Mike Baker, thank you very much, brother. Appreciate you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

10173.958

Likewise.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

10174.518

Bye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

1028.882

This is crazy. Yeah. There's a mental decline there. There's nothing wrong with mental decline. We're all going to experience it someday, kids. But to say that it's not happening just because you don't want the other side to win is bananas.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

103.658

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The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

1040.849

And that's what it was. Anytime you called it out, because we all saw it, like you said, we're all heading in that direction. It's probably the one thing we all have in common. We all know what it looks like. Everyone's got aging parents or aging grandparents. And so we knew it intuitively, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

1058.295

Every time you saw him and he made a slip up or he faltered or he just kind of started staring off into space or he moved the way that he was moving, like you've seen your grandpa move. We knew it. But if you dared bring it up... You were just, I mean, you were just kicked in the ass, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

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And suddenly somehow you were ageist and you were, you know, hyper-partisan and you were just, and you were MAGA. The epitome of gaslighting. Yeah. Gaslighting to the extreme.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1084.822

Because it was so obvious and in your face. It's like, no, it's not raining out. Like, what? Yeah. It's fucking boring. Like, what are you talking about?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1093.049

Full gaslighting right in front of your face. Yeah. And so I would love that to be the first very first question. Can you explain to us at what point in time you actually became aware that he was in significant mental decline? Right. And again, that's I feel bad for the guy. I feel bad for anybody who's in that position. But he's the fucking commander in chief. Right.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1113.216

He's the leader of the free world. So I think we have a right to expect more from that situation. But I don't think there's going to be none of those questions.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1122.141

His last fuck you was saying that he wants Harris to take his place. That was his last fuck you. Because from what I understand, they wanted to have a primary. And they wanted to pick their own person. And they didn't want to have Harris.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1137.168

Yeah, she was nobody's idea of the best, most competent, most qualified candidate. Up until they orchestrated this, whatever you want to call it, anointment or coronation or coup. You used to call it a coup. Call it a coup. It seems like a coup. Yeah. So until that point, she wasn't the preferred, but now she's fucking Beyonce and Joan of Arc.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1157.527

Well, she had that one speech where she really fucking nailed it when she was talking about Trump. And this is after Trump even got shot when she didn't even address the fact that we have to be more tolerant. You mean that teleprompter speech? That teleprompter speech, she fucking nailed it. She nailed it. But when you get her off teleprompter, she's fucked.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1175.175

Yeah. She's fucked. Well, I don't know this, and this is sheer speculation on my part, but I would be suspicious. I love sheer speculation. I know. As opposed to all the other times that I'm not speculating. I don't need facts. Yeah. But there's a chance maybe that they will know the questions for tomorrow night's interview ahead of time.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1196.798

Oh, come on.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1197.759

I know. Do you think CNN would do that? You're right. I take it back because I'm sure it will be a series of hard hitting questions and they won't let her get away with anything. And it's all going to work out fine. Look, all she's got to do is beat the Biden debate bar and people are going to say, yeah, she nailed it.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1215.791

Yeah. Well, they're supposed to have a debate, right, on ABC. September 10th. And isn't the woman who moderates it a part of the Biden-Harris administration?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1227.02

Oh, my God. I didn't know that.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1228.561

Who is the woman, which has some sort of a connection to the Biden-Harris administration? The woman who is, find that out, Jamie, the woman who's moderating the ABC debate. Is it Joe Biden? You did great, Joe. You answered all the questions. And what did he do? He lied. He lied. Poor bastard. That poor bastard. If that was my dad, I'd be so fucking angry at her.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1255.283

I'd be like, what are you doing to dad? They're just dragging him around, right? Unbelievable. Up until that moment, just drag him around. Juicing him up with Adderall and having him talk or whatever they're giving him. I want to try what he's getting.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1267.093

Good. It's got to be good, right?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1268.714

It's got to be tremendous. Imagine if you have a day when you're kind of tired and sleeping and your brain's not working that good.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1274.159

yeah well i have several of those which by the way i should say this if you are having one of those days there's a study that came out about creatine creatine which most people think of as like a muscle supplement which it is but creatine actually helps performance when you're sleep deprived significantly That's interesting. Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

129.379

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1293.121

Okay. Well, that's good because I'm constantly sleep deprived.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1295.001

It's also great for cognitive function.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1297.523

Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1297.823

I started taking it on a regular basis.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1300.304

My boys take it for their workouts. It's great for that, too. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I didn't know that about that, but I will definitely jump on it because I find myself... Like this month, August, I've been traveling like a son of a bitch, and I'm probably getting three and a half, four hours of sleep a night.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1314.712

Yeah, that's not good.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1316.233

It's not good.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1316.874

It's not good as we get older, too. When I was young, I could bounce back from four hours sleep. Not that bad. Yeah. But at 57, it's rough.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1325.26

Yeah, well, try my age. Creatine. Get on some creatine. Yeah, me and Joe Biden. God. But it is remarkable that... When you look at what's happened over the past month and a half, I mean, nobody – it doesn't seem – because, again, the media is playing along with this. Nobody's asking questions. Who's running the free world? Who's making the decisions at the White House?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1355.837

It doesn't seem to be a major concern. Which is bizarre. Which is bizarre. But the – I get the Democrats, right? The Democrats are like, well, but Trump – It's always their answer. But Trump. And, you know, if I point out that maybe Harris, you know, is somewhat of a midwit, you know, but Trump. And so what is your argument back? I mean, what do you say?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1377.904

Well, look, maybe you should focus on just having the best qualified candidate rather than saying, well, we just got to beat Trump. And that's not going to happen. But the fact that there's just nobody asking questions about things like that. When did you know that President Biden was in decline? Who was actually making the decisions?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1398.769

Controversy surrounds ABC News anchor Lindsay Davis as debate moderator due to alleged bias against Trump. But doesn't she have some sort of a connection to the Biden or Harris administration?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1410.052

I didn't see anything about that. No?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1411.813

Okay. Who is Lindsay Davis? Find out who she is.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1415.198

It could be speculation on your part.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1417.721

No, I read something, some connection that someone had made. I should have saved it. Huh.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1427.731

Yeah. So that's the 10th. But again, I would say that, hey, look, it's much like this, you know, this upcoming interview, right? She just got to get through it without a major screw up. And I think they're going to say, look, she did it. She's had her interview. It's all good. Yeah. I just don't think that people are that curious anymore.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1449.131

And certainly on the Democrat side, the one thing they're always very good at is just doing what they're told and following a message, sticking to the message, and worrying about winning.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1459.52

Yeah, I saw Bill Maher and Quentin Tarantino talking about it, whether or not she should do interviews. And Quentin Tarantino's like, it's really important that we just win. Yeah. That we just win. Like, are we the Dolphins? Are we going against the Raiders? Or is this the United fucking States of America? Like, what? What the hell are you talking about?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1480.245

Yeah, you'd like to think that people are really concerned about the quality of their leaders, but I think it is more about winning, again, at least on the Democrat side. Sometimes I question whether Republicans understand that.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1489.932

I think it's on both sides. I really do, because there were some people that posted a deceptive video, deceptively edited video, that made it look like Tim, you know, he has a son that has some disabilities, and it looked like he was yanking his son... in a mean way, but he was really just trying to get his son to not hit his head on the teleprompter.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

151.414

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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So the teleprompter is this clear thing, the kid's walking towards it, and he just gives him a pull this way, like, let's go this way. And they just took that clip, like, oh, I bet he's mean. Look, he's mean to his boy. It's creepy.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1524.307

The level of disinformation and misinformation right now leading up to November is astounding. Astounding. And it's becoming more and more difficult because of generative AI and Just a willingness to kind of disappear down a rabbit hole and believe whatever you want to believe, right? Nobody's questioning all this shit.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1543.131

But it is, whether it's coming from outside influence, and we know the Iranians are very active right now. Obviously, the Russians and Chinese are always interested in screwing us up. But people, if they don't do it themselves... It's not as if this idea that the government is going to tell you what's good and what's not to read is amazing. They just arrested the Telegram CEO over in Europe.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1569.987

Yeah, isn't that crazy?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1570.787

Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1571.248

I was going to ask you about that, too. So it seems like they wanted access to... to Telegram's messages because there were certain people that were posting things that had been a part of... There was a terrorist attack in Russia that they tried to get him to give up information about, but then they gave up on that and they left him alone. But now in France, they've arrested him.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1594.972

Yeah, they picked him up three days ago, I think, four days ago.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1599.535

Unfortunately, he's got this social media girlfriend who posts pictures everywhere she goes so they can fucking find him everywhere. Telegram CEO released from custody in Paris.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1609.122

Aha, great. They extended his detention for 48 hours, and then they had to make a decision, I think it was by today, as to what to do with him.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1617.668

Judge had until Wednesday morning to either charge him or release him, so they released him.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1621.111

Okay.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1621.491

I think the outrage of the world. Okay, so this is said, dual citizen of France and Russia was taken into custody Saturday. He was detained on an arrest warrant over accusations the platform was used for money laundering, drug trafficking, and other offenses. Guess what? You can say that about Gmail. Yeah, yeah. Should we arrest Google?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1640.118

Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1640.399

Because Gmail is used for money laundering and drug sales? Because it certainly is.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1645.662

Yeah, and I think, well, look, honestly, I think there's some people in the States, if they thought they could get away with it, they would. That's what they would be pushing for. But with Pavel Durov, I think they were really upset with a couple of things. One is that...

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1664.195

Telegram has a history of not cooperating with criminal investigations, not releasing information or complying with requests from whomever it may be, Europol, Interpol, anyone. And so they basically figured out a way to say, look, because of your inability or your failure to moderate the content on your platform, on Telegram, We're going to criminally charge you, perhaps.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1688.345

I suspect that's what they're going to do with this, but I think you're right. I think the outrage said, okay, well, let's let him go for now. But he's not – look, he got sideways with Putin. So he's a dual citizen of Putin.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1703.132

Russia and France.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1704.073

No, France and United Arab Emirates. Oh, yeah. And although the Russians Putin regime was very funny when he got arrested, they were outraged over the fact that they viewed this as a limit on free speech. That's a Putin regime. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Because you know how much they value civil liberties and shit. Especially dissenting opinions. Yeah. Oh, they love. There is nothing better.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1729.42

Yeah. It's all about free expression over there in Russia.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1735.123

Oh, God. Russia.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1737.565

So let me ask you this before we get off topic about the assassination. Oh, yeah. Is it normal for there to be an assassination attempt and then no press conference?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1747.53

Yeah. It is – because we don't have assassination attempts every week, it's kind of hard to say that is it normal to do this. But if there's a major world event, generally don't they have press conferences? Yes.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1761.863

And it was – look, the whole thing, the protocols that weren't followed, the process, the fact that it was a cock-up of monumental proportions leading up to Thomas Crooks taking those shots – And then the afterwards. Right. Then the way that they handled it was another series. I mean, it's still to this day, this series of mistakes that there is no justification for it.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1789.419

You can't look doing security at a an event like the Butler rally back in July where Trump was shot. Right now there's people out there going, I don't think he was shot. I'm pretty sure he wasn't. So I think that's, it's not rocket science, right? It's very labor intensive and detail oriented, but it's not, you're not building a spaceship, right?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1820.12

You're going through the same process that you go through every time you have one of these events, right? And so you have a political rally like that. And it's not a national security event. So it's not the DNC. It's not the RNC. It's not the Super Bowl. It's not the Olympics. Those are national security events.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1836.638

You have a year plus to plan and prepare, get all your resources together and figure out your game plan, your site surveys, all the rest of it. You still have time with these political events. Don't have a year, but you've got sufficient time. And they do it over and over again. And it's not tough. So you do a site survey and you say, OK, he's going to show up at Butler. Let's get out there.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1861.605

And the Secret Service has primacy. They work with local state resources if they need to heavy up the security and they don't have the available resources. But they have the primacy. So they go out.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1874.471

And the site survey, that whole process, the risk threat assessment and the survey is where you identify your timelines and your resources and your deployment of resources and all the various things, your command and control center, your communications protocols, all those things. But it's over and over and over again. There's a methodology to it.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1895.524

And the Secret Service, you know, they do this all the time. so it does lead you to wonder how many more events in the past have they been, you know, not buttoned up and they just got lucky because there wasn't a shooter, but there's no way to excuse what happened, uh, because it was such a breakdown of, of events.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1916.414

And, and then afterwards in the hot Washington, in the, the briefings that they did provide and going up on Capitol Hill and Kimberly Cheadle, the now departed, uh, director, um, It was a classic lesson in how not to do crisis communications. And she should have been the director who's now gone. She should have been out on the on the rally grounds that afternoon, that evening. Sorry.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1941.151

And with a team and with the agent in charge. And it should have been very clear to everyone. The press all around that they were out there doing the investigation, assessing what had happened and people would be responsible and they would talk. But none of that happened. It was just a fucking goat rope.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1962.206

So because it's Trump, if it was anybody else.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1965.147

Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1965.688

Like if that had happened, if there's an assassination attempt about Biden. Yeah. Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

1970.915

Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2033.907

On the ear the same way. And they took him out and the whole deal. And, you know, they shoot the guy and there's an investigation. It would have been on the news constantly, constantly for weeks and weeks. It would have been lead story every night. More information in the assassination attempt on President Biden. Day 22. Yeah. Yeah, it would have been the same thing.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2057.614

Right-wing, far-right activist, registered Republican, Thomas Crooks. Yes. Because apparently he was a registered Republican.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2065.077

Yeah, he had donated, I think, $15 to a Democratic or a progressive group. And he had registered as a Republican. And he was all over the map. He had done research on Biden. He'd done research on Trump. So he was, you know, they're trying to posit a motivation because they haven't been clear about that yet. They're still trying to figure out a motivation there.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2085.383

that he was just looking for an opportunity to carry out his vision.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2091.148

We don't even know. Does he have a history of being mentally ill?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2095.112

There was some talk. They're starting to develop a narrative that says, for the past couple of years, people were concerned about his mental health. There were a couple of people, I think, that had an acquaintance with him that were saying, well, we just assumed he was bipolar or depressive. He had researched depressive disorders that was on some of his electronic gear.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2116.627

And so, yeah, I mean, that could be it. But, again, the bottom line is the whole process, command and control, resource deployment, communications process, all of it just completely fucked up on that day. And usually when you have a problem of that magnitude – with security. It's never just one thing. It's a series of things that compound.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2139.317

And, you know, but then, you know, the acting director, Roe, you know, he goes up there and, you know, it was a few weeks back now, but when he first showed up to say, I'm the acting director and I'll go up to Capitol Hill and answer your questions, which he didn't really do, um,

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2154.312

You know, they were talking about, well, it's almost impossible to get all the elements talking on the same frequency, right? The local police are talking on their frequency. Secret Service talking on their frequency. Counter-sniper teams, maybe they're operating on a different channel. You can't combine those. Well, of course you can.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2170.766

I'm just telling you for a fact that you can... There are capabilities out there and available to allow you to get everybody talking on the same sheet of music at an event like that.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2184.613

Of course. And... To say otherwise is nonsense.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2187.714

Yeah. Yeah. And it's also... Yeah, it divides logic, but it also... And I think that was the thing about this is why people were so shocked is because... You didn't have to be a security expert to look at this thing in real time. Well, how about the sloped roof thing? We couldn't get agents up there because the roof was sloped, and it could be dangerous. And it sloped like five degrees.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2211.379

Yeah, that was the nail in her coffin when she came out with that bullshit.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2215.142

The whole thing was insane because you had snipers on another roof. So what are you talking about?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2220.345

Yeah, you had two counter-sniper teams, and... But again, when you go out to a place like that and you walk the grounds and you stand and you survey, right? And you fly drones around and you get a real sense of what you're talking about. In the early stages of a survey or an assessment like that, there are just certain things you look for. Right. You know, okay, there's the stage.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2243.055

There's a tall building over there. How about the water tower? How about the water tower? Maybe we cover that down too. And I think... The transparency that we have on this right now is pretty much thanks to the local law enforcement. I mean, that's where we've gotten most of our information, right? They've shared body cam images. They've shared radio conversations.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2264.049

And I think in part they're doing it because they're so pissed off, right?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2266.631

Yeah, well, their conversations were about how they saw this guy in advance and they alerted people. He was walking around with a fucking range finder. Yeah. That's it. Is that a clue? You walk around with a range finder, they should just arrest you.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2278.761

Yeah. It's shocking. And then he was there a couple hours ahead of time flying a drone. Insane. Yeah. But I think that the Secret Service, their go-to in the immediate aftermath was to point fingers at the local law enforcement. And so I think local law enforcement was like, fuck you. Fuck you. Yeah. And so they've been transparent where Secret Service hasn't.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2301.275

Government, I tell you this, government hates to hold a press conference when they don't have all the facts, right? They're just not comfortable with it. And particularly something like this, the idea that the acting director kept saying about, well, we're not going to get out ahead of the investigation. Well, you know what? Sometimes there's times when you need to. Right.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2318.923

And the fact that they failed to understand the optic of this right in the immediate aftermath and say, man, we've got to be so fucking proactive here. We've got to be more transparent than we've ever been before.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2330.407

There's a lot of other things that disturb me. Here's one. Was there, is it normal for CNN to live stream a Trump press event or a Trump campaign event?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2343.84

They normally, I mean, if they show it, they normally jump out of it after the first 10 seconds or so. Always lying again.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2350.426

We've counted five lies. But I do have to say this, and I say this as a credit to CNN. It seems like they have made a concerted effort to be more balanced. And I think this is in the aftermath of firing Don Lemon and Brian Stelter and all those people over there that people were frustrated with. I think they have made a concerted effort.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2372.223

Like there was a gentleman who was on who was talking about that everyone's blaming Trump for things, but that the Democrats have been in control of the White House for 12 of the last 16 years. And when he said that, it was like, whoa. That was a big moment, and no one had an answer to that. The undermining that Trump has done to our democracy and the threats and what he said.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2395.144

He's going to be a dictator. He said he's going to be a dictator. On day one. Holy shit, man. He's joking around about closing the border. He's not going to listen to anybody. He's just going to close the border.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2404.696

The 12 of the last 16 years. And you know what? Kamala Harris, if she wins, she's going to fix the problems.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2410.94

She's in right now.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2413.3

I know. Which is so crazy. Another part of the whole equation that I'm sure they won't get asked tomorrow night. When you talk about fixing the problems and making America, what are you, Ben, doing?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2425.085

Maybe they will, and maybe they've already prepared for that. Maybe they have some sort of fucking spinny spin they're going to put on that to make it seem like it makes sense.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2434.608

Somebody, I guarantee you, put everybody on the polygraph over there and say, somebody could just be a researcher or a producer or whatever. They're talking because you know the DNC and the campaign team have been, ever since they agreed, okay, let's do this interview, somebody's been beating on somebody to say, okay, where are you going to go with this? What questions are you going to ask?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2458.595

And somebody's slipping that under the table.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2460.515

There's no way they're not. They're all Democrats. I mean, if you're working for CNN, you're a Democrat, most likely. There's very few Republicans over there. Yeah, there might be some independents. There might be. Libertarians.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2472.902

Yeah, there's a few. There's a handful.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2475.364

Even though they're liberal-leaning, Jake Tapper, I think, is very fair. I think he's probably the most objective out of all of them, even though I'm sure he has his own opinions and biases. But they're not acting like journalists. They act like...

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#2197 - Mike Baker

2488.132

advocates for the democratic party and that's where it gets weird because you're supposed to be the news yeah well i think what happened a couple of things is is with cnn moving possibly this idea that they're moving a little bit towards the center and i will say you see more negative comments from from uh the the left right about cnn i think they're pissed off sometimes with cnn because they're not as objective

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Because they're trying to move a little bit more. I think that's a revenue issue for them because I don't think they've made money since they've been around. But I think they're realizing that maybe there's more profit margin a little bit further towards the center than where they've been sitting.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Well, if they can convince people that they will actually be objective, people like me will listen. And that's the thing. I'm much more centered than I am anything.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Well, remember, you used to tune in CNN when shit was hitting the fan overseas. Oh, yeah. Because they had more field offices. They had more bureaus all over the world. And you'd turn on CNN to see what's going on. We used to have it. If you walked into a station overseas, CNN was always on. I mean, it still is for the most part.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Was it when Jeff Zucker got involved? Is that when things changed? No.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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You know what?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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I don't know. I'm not qualified to answer that. Because he put on some good stuff, too. He was the head of NBC when I was over there.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Okay.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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When I was over there for news radio and Fear Factor. Maybe not news. No, not news radio. Fear Factor. He was the head guy over there. And when he went over there, he did a bunch of great things, like the Anthony Bourdain show. They were doing those interesting shows. W. Kamau Bell had a show on there. They were doing some cool stuff that was not just the news.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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And I was like, oh, I like it, I like it. But then when they became, like, Don Lemon, at one point in time, do you remember when Don Lemon had that famous speech about what black people need to do? Pull your pants up, get your shit together. I was like, fuck yeah, Don Lemon. And where's that guy? Where'd that guy go?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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That guy fucking vanished. There was no money in that. No, no.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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There is. You just got to go to Fox.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Oh, God. You can't hang out at CNN with those kind of fucking... Come on. Objective opinions. God.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Yeah, it'll be... So, I think... Again, I think this interview that she's going to do, I get it. I understand. Why wouldn't you want to be in a comfortable spot? I think it's very bizarre that she's doing a joint interview with Walt.

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Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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If you want to show that you're ready for the job and you could possibly be the first woman president of the United States, and then you say, okay, my first big interview, I'm going to sit here with this dude.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Could you imagine if Trump did all his interviews with Pence? What? What?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Where is Pence? He's hiding. That dude's hiding. I don't even know where he is.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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All those QAnon people, they don't like him. Oh, God, no. No, that's true. Oh, they think he's a traitor. Yeah. They think he's responsible for Trump not being still in office. There's nobody in the middle anymore. Oh my God, no one's in the middle, and if you're in the middle, you're an enemy.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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You're the enemy.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Pick a fucking side. Pick a side. You guys need to stop. Cut the shit, man. We need about five different parties that are all relevant. Goddamn right. And right now we have two. And one of them is way more funded. Like way more funded. Fucking way more funded.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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You see, they've raked in, the Democrats have raked in something like half a billion dollars. Nuts. Yeah. And they'll probably spend it all.

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We're up. All right, we're up, Mr. Baker. How are you, sir?

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$150,000.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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So there's all these donations that at least Project Veritas is claiming, and these people are claiming, we're not theirs. And this is that they're throwing money into this pot, and they're attributing it to all these people that probably don't even know it's being attributed to them. I think that's what they're alluding to.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Really, that's it. We're just jumping right in.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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I mean, the cost of this campaign is going to be north of a billion. You have to assume. That's so crazy. And you think about, yeah, if there was a way to take money out of it, if there was a way to take the term, enact term limits, and there was a way to have a meaningful third and fourth party, completely change the landscape here. And I think for the better.

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Oh, my God, I just sat down. Well, there's so many things to talk about. Is there? Anything happen? A few things happened until I saw you. One guy got shot. Some guy.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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I don't think there's any, I mean, in my mind, I don't think I can be persuaded otherwise, but... I just don't see that happening. Who's gonna vote against their own best interests, right? You look at the money that these politicians can make, and they can walk out the door, multimillionaires, On salaries, where that doesn't make any sense.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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That's the other thing you need to get out of there is insider trading. Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Oh, you know what? My wife is so damn smart. A hell of a lot smarter than I am. She's very smart. She is very smart. She's kind of spooky smart.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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I know, right? You talk to her, you're like, yo. Yeah. Yeah. This lady's operating at a very high frequency. I know, which makes you wonder, why is she still with me? That's what they like, a nice dumb guy.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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A dumb guy, right. Yeah. You know, I'm good at picking things up and putting them down. That's all they need. Yeah, I can fetch things.

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They need you to open up mayonnaise jars. Look at this. Hand Mike the pickles. Every now and then I walk over there and I just show her just so she knows what I'm around here for. That's right. I can fucking open shit.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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God damn it. I will say this. The other thing about this is all three of my boys. I just got in from Florida this morning and I was dropping our middle boy back at IMG. He plays basketball down there. and he's constantly, and the older one, even the youngest one, they're constantly just hitting me. They're beating on me, right? Every time they walk by. Boy stuff.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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And the guy who shot him, just his body vanished. Yeah. No police. Now, did he get shot?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Yeah, they can't walk by me without hitting me, right? Yeah. And I mean, now they're really putting some effort into it, right? They got testosterone now. Yeah, they got testosterone, and they want a title shot, right? Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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And so they're all kind of getting to that point, and they're just like, I'll walk into the elevator yesterday with Sammy, and we get in there, and the door's closed, and he just wails on me. I go, what the fuck? Fuck you doing?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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I was talking about this with Huberman, that the difference between a boy of 12 years old and a boy of 17 is only five years. Yeah. So you and I, in five years, basically probably be pretty close to the same, but hopefully we won't decline too much. Yeah. But from a boy at 12 years old, they can't hurt anybody. At 17 years old, they can fuck up grown men.

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Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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And it happens quick. It happens quick, and all of a sudden, yeah, it's like with the two oldest ones. I look at them. If I'm away, you know, I travel a fair amount, and I come back.

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They got muscles. They're bigger. They're taller. I'm thinking, holy shit. But it's like living in a house with Kato, remember? Wait, wait. We're really dating ourselves now. Yeah, exactly.

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Because I've seen a lot of people talk about this, like, no, he didn't get shot.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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But he'd leap out of nowhere and just attack you.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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And I'm thinking, what the fuck?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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For the Pink Panther. God, yeah, exactly.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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But so, yeah, we dropped him off yesterday. He's back there for his next year. And I will say that, you know, but to start about AMG, they told me a fact yesterday. And I was just talking about it with the guys outside before we started. Which astounds me. They graduated 88 ballplayers last year, basketball players, from seniors and their post-grad program. 88 of them.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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That's hilarious.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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82 of them are now playing college ball. Wow. That's astounding. That's pretty astounding. It's amazing. And that's just the one sport there. They cover most of the sports. That's pretty incredible. It's an amazing program. So anyway, but moving on.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Oh, my God.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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I interrupted you. You were about to say something smart that your wife said. I was saying we're talking about the Trump thing and the objective thing with the news and all that jazz.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Do you think that he cut his ear like a pro wrestler?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Fucking hell. I'm having a Biden moment now. What was I talking? Jamie, you remember what I was going to say? No, it'll come to me later on. Yeah. Yeah. I don't even remember what I was about to say.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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We made a diversion.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Yeah, we disappeared down a rabbit hole there.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Like, it's all fake.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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We're essentially just talking about the problem with narratives, that people – there's no one in the middle and that everyone is – if you're not on one side, you're a traitor. Yeah. You're an enemy.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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The guy behind him got murdered.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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And you do – I don't know. There's no way – I don't think there's any way to walk that dog back, right? Look, we had that moment after the assassination attempt, and like we talked about earlier, people were saying, yeah, we've got to be more civil.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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That wasn't real? I saw it. Again, you would think that would be a clue, but I've seen things where they say, no, he didn't have any blood on him, and then he ducked down behind the podium just long enough. I'm thinking, are you fucking psycho?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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It was like a mini 9-11. Remember after 9-11? Everybody was so nice to each other for weeks. That one lasted a long time. I remember coming to New York City, and we filmed Fear Factor after September 11th, and everybody was so nice. And firemen were treated like fucking heroes. Firemen got laid more than any other time. I mean, everybody wanted to bang a fireman.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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They wanted to help those guys out.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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I grew a mustache and pretended I was a fireman for a while.

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All the first responders, cops, EMT guys, they all got mad respect. And everybody was a lot more peaceful and civil. And in Los Angeles, it was palpable. You had American flags on everyone's car. It was kind of cool.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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And then you had the same with the military, right? I mean, shortly after, and then we went into Tora Bora, and then that whole thing kicked off. But there was a period of time, you're right. And usually, not that you want something like that to happen. I mean, look at the pandemic. I mean, the pandemic brought people together for a while. People were so nice to you.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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In the beginning, I thought it was going to be like 9-11, where everyone's going to realize, hey, we're all together in this. Let's help each other out. Let's get through this.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Yeah, that didn't last. No.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Well, the thing that didn't last is... In spite of all the evidence that it's not as bad as everybody's saying it is, everybody wanted to say it's killing everybody. Did you see Kamala Harris's speech where she said 220 million Americans died? Yeah. And she didn't just say it once. She said it more than once. I've got it saved. I could pull it up if Jamie wants to find it.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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But there's two different instances where she said two different speeches, 220 million Americans died from COVID. Yeah. Which is just insane.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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We're now just a country of 110 million.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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That's so crazy to say.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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And yet we still have a housing shortage.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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You can misspeak and maybe say 220 million Americans were infected. Yeah. Fact check. Kamala Harris said 220 million people in the U.S. died of COVID. Here's what she meant to say. Oh, she meant to say this. Oh, Snopes. Oh, Snopes. Hold her hand. It was a slip of the tongue. She meant, she's saying million instead of thousand. Okay. No. No, that doesn't work anyway.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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They are psycho.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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But then, to be fair, then... Well, no, that can't be fair. How can you be fair about that? There's no fair. There's no fair.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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That doesn't work either because even if you're saying 220,000, that's 220,000 died with COVID. You're not looking at it correctly. If it was four plus comorbidities for somewhere in the neighborhood of 75% or 80% of the people that died.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

3158.681

Yeah. But what we just saw there with that headline is – It's very subtle, but it's important, right? What she meant to say. How the fuck do you know what she meant to say if she said it twice? But you see this constantly, right? And again, it's very subtle. It's not straight up disinformation, but it's framing it. It's shaping a narrative. It's softening it. And it's definitely taken aside.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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But a lot of people would read that and it would just go right past them. But it would be back there somewhere, right? Right. As, you know, if it was Trump, you know, Trump lied about the following, right? Right. OK. OK. I mean, that's that's good. Look, it's first of all, you're going to misspeak.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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We heard gunshots. We saw a guy get shot who was shooting at him. The guy behind him got murdered. Yeah. A couple other people got injured. Life-changing injuries. Yes. Yeah, serious injuries. Yeah, serious injuries. I mean, it 100% happened. To say it didn't happen is insane. And then you had Joy Reid on TV saying, well, Biden got over COVID, which is basically the same thing. Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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If you're doing those kind of things and you're working off a script and you don't have a script and you're just out there talking to people, you're going to misspeak. Yeah. And I say the wrong name all the time. I'll say someone's name and then Jamie will correct me. Did you mean it? I go, what did I say? Like, I don't even realize it when I'm saying it that I'm saying the wrong word.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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People misspeak.

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Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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It's a normal thing. But.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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That's a goofy one. It's and to repeat it. Yeah. Right. But look, and that's why, again, everything that we've seen leading up to tomorrow night's interview needs to be factored into this. Right. I just I understand why the Democrats are so wrapped around the axle, because they just they're so worried that Trump might win for whatever reason. They just can't fathom that.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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And so a lot of them are just willing to overlook it. A lot of them, I think, understand that she's a half-wit. But I think maybe that's not fair. But look, every time I talk about her, people will say, well, she's so well-experienced. Look at her. She was an attorney general and a senator and a vice president. And I'm thinking, have you never seen people who have failed upwards?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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I've met a lot of people who have had a lot of experience. And they're fucking dolts. They're gormless. Especially in Hollywood. Right?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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You work on television. How many fucking executives have you run across? You're like, how the fuck did you get this job? And even the people under them don't respect them.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Yeah. But yet they're in control.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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For the time being. Yeah. Then they're all living in fear, right? They're all living in fear of losing that office and those snacks. Yep. And the assistant. And they will. They eventually lose it. They eventually do. Yeah. But they're so paralyzed by fear, nobody's buying shows anymore. Right. And it's a remarkable industry right now. That's not what we're talking about, but it is fascinating.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Well, it's been gutted by the internet.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Yeah, it's completely gutted. People, they lived in fear before, but now nobody wants to green light anything. And if they do, they'll say, well, we'll buy six episodes. Right. Really? Okay, that's where your head's at? Yeah. So, yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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And then they're terrified of AI. Because AI is going to come along, and that's going to take away who knows how many jobs. I mean, I think Hollywood is going to get hit first. Well, maybe not. No, probably a lot of industries are going to get crippled. But I think Hollywood has got a real problem. They've got a real problem with writers.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

3342.968

They've got a real problem with video, editing, all that stuff. It's going to be done through computers way quicker. Yeah. Way more cost-efficient, probably better. You're going to get exactly what you want.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Yeah. It is shocking. I was a little bit late to the game, as I usually am on the technology side, right? And so I don't think I really understood just how invasive or... What's the word I'm looking for? For AI in its abilities, right? Even now, right? Yeah. It's going to be exponentially better here shortly, but... The ability to craft a very tailored message in almost no time at all is shocking.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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And so you're right. But where my head goes is because, you know, I mean, anybody with kids I think goes there is that, you know, what I worry about is, okay, so at what point do we just, humans don't know how to fucking analyze and write shit anymore, right? Right.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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And you'll have the people who, okay, sure, you've got to program this shit and you've got to curate all the stuff that it's picking up. But now it's collecting just AI-generated shit, right? It's not like it's going out there and getting the world's greatest human literature anymore. Now it's just scooping up all this shit that AI produced. But I worry about kids, right?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

3424.398

And, you know, the ease with which they can now put together an essay or a college application or whatever the fuck it is. I think we're just raising, you know, maybe we're just raising the next generation of morons.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

343.072

People are losing their fucking minds. And they're afraid. Everyone's afraid to be objective. Because if you're objective, somehow or another, you're helping the other side.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

3436.647

Well, definitely the next generation of people that are completely dependent upon technology. I mean, kids can't even write cursive anymore. They stopped teaching that. Yeah. Yeah. Which is bizarre.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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I know. That was always my favorite class. That was the only class I did really well in, was cursive. And phys ed. I did really well in phys ed.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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I guess people think there's no reason to be able to write quickly, because now you just type things out.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Yeah, you type it out. I still write. Emily's much better at it than I am, but I still write a letter occasionally.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Well, you have to write your name.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Your name is in cursive. Yeah, but have you ever seen kids write their sign? You say, here, sign this. Yeah. No, they just spell it out, not cursive. So they don't have a signature anymore. They don't have a signature. That was a big day when you decided what your signature was going to look like. Yeah, I used to practice modeling. I modeled mine after JFK's. Really?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Yeah, because no one knows anyway. And so I just like, okay, John F. Kennedy signed it like that. And so I practiced for a long time just to get it looking like that. And that's a little piece of information I don't think anybody ever had before.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Now they do.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Now they do.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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We're going to be definitely dependent. My kids have had kids in their class get busted for papers that they wrote on AI because they're so dumb. They don't realize like someone could just put the same prompt into AI and get the exact same verbiage.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

3516.82

And they do have, I mean, professors and teachers have, you know, the ability to use certain apps that will scan and see whether these things have been pulled together by AI. But I think it's like a lot of other things. The offensive capability is going to stay ahead of the defensive capability, right? Right.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Oh, no. If you even try to walk a line that's somewhere near the middle of anything nowadays. That's me. Yeah, yeah, you'll get, well, there you go then. You get your ass kicked.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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So you're going to get better and better and better at – and the defensive ability to judge what's AI generated in the world of academia is going to lag. But it is. Yeah, I do think, and then going back to what we were talking about, the level of disinformation coming into November is going to be shocking, I think, for some people, even if they haven't been paying attention.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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But a lot of people don't because a lot of people don't have the time. Yeah, I think when we get there, when we wake up and the election results are announced three weeks later.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

3570.079

Well, Pennsylvania's already saying they're not going to be able to do it on election night.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

3573.562

Yeah, what the fuck?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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They used to. What did you guys do?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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We used to. Remember? You go to bed and you knew when you went to bed if you stayed up late.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

3581.187

Not only that, there's no pandemic. So why do we have all these mail-in ballots?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

3586.846

Well, that seems kind of silly. Yeah. Yeah. We know what else seems silly. And I don't consider this to be voter suppression. Have a fucking ID to show that you're a U.S. citizen. That's racist. I know. I know. I apologize. But but I do think it makes sense. You go to 100 percent makes sense. I couldn't vote in another country.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

3606.641

You should not be able to vote here without an ID. Just like you can't get a driver's license. You have to have your fucking birth certificate. We have paperwork. It's there for a reason because people are full of shit. There's a lot of fraudsters out there. And if there's a way to mitigate fraud in the most important thing that we do, which is choose a leader.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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But I was telling Emily, I was telling my wife the other day that I consider that a really good thing because like, oh my God, this is like two minutes into it and I'm already mentioning the podcast, The President's Daily Brief. Look, I'm getting much better at this. Good plug. So on The President's Daily Brief, we try to just walk kind of down the middle. We just tell you the news.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

3626.52

It's one of the most important things we do. We exercise our right to vote. And if you're going to fuck with that, and if you are willfully making it so that it's easier to deceive people, that's crazy. That's crazy that we don't put a stop to that.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

3641.227

Yeah, you would think that that would be the default position is how do we mitigate the risk, right? And let's do it, again, fine, without voter suppression. Don't make it difficult for a particular community or group or whatever to vote. Of course not. But... I don't think it's asking too much to just say, okay, proof of citizenship, please.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

3663.416

That's not a big issue. In Texas, they've canceled out a million potential votes that would have been illegal. See if you can find that. Wow. So they found a bunch of people, I think a half a million that were registered to vote that were dead. And then there's a bunch of other people that were registered that were ineligible.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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And so the way they're framing it in Texas, the way I saw it framed in one newspaper that Ken Paxton is going after Latinos because he doesn't want them to vote. 1.1 million ineligible voters removed from Texas voter rolls. So Texas has removed 1.1 million.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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That's a lot, folks. Look at that, 457,000 were deceased.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Yes, 457,000 deceased people, 6,500 potential non-citizens. And so the top Texas Republicans have dedicated significant time and resources to targeting voter fraud, though cases in Texas are exceedingly rare. Well, I mean, the thing is... Just the fact that that's going on, that they found a million people that shouldn't be eligible. God damn, that could shift an election. How many people vote?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Oh, look, Georgia was decided by what, 12,000, 1,200 votes?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

3736.905

It was some ridiculously small number, right? And that's the way this is going to be in November. The only people that matter going into November, frankly, are the undecideds.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

3747.168

When you look at the accusations of voter fraud in 2020, does any of it stick? Does any of it where you look at and go, that is weird?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

3754.713

I would say that in our current system, I don't have any evidence of actual, you know, I can't point to actual moments and say, yeah, look at that. That was voter fraud. But I will say this. You may have heard me mention that I have a company, Portman Square Group, that does a lot of things, including fraud investigations.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

3772.989

You know, the President's Daily Brief, by the way, our YouTube channel, at President's Daily Brief, is killing it. I'm told. Congratulations. I'm told. I'm not sure.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

3781.878

So you, what, in terms of our system, I interrupt you to tell you how awesome you are, but the system that we have, is there any evidence that you can point to that says this doesn't look right?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

3796.764

Well, what I was going to say was that while I don't have evidence to a particular moment in time, As someone who's done a lot of fraud investigations, you look for the opportunity to commit fraud, right? And it's like what you were just saying a moment ago, right? If you can button it up and make it more secure, why wouldn't you, right?

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Here's the top things that are happening. what I find is I get angry messages from both sides because I'm not staking out a position. I'm just saying, here's what's happening. And for the most part, we try to avoid context or atmosphere for the most part, but you're just pissing everybody off.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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And so we've created an environment where there's definitely potential for fraud. There's no doubt about it. More so than if you had voter, you know, I.D. or just you had to provide I.D. to show citizenship. And if you did it in person and if you got the results and you didn't have massive early voting and you didn't have drop boxes and, you know, ballot harvesting. But.

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So we've got a process now that has created a wider playing field for people who may want to commit fraud. And so I'm a cynical person. So that to me says, yeah, there's going to be fraud or there has been fraud. Don't have specific examples, but I just know from looking at a lot of fraud over the years. That's the way it works.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

3868.175

Well, voter fraud has always been a thing. Yeah. Right. Voter fraud has been a real problem from the beginning of voting because people are creepy and people like to game the system and they like to cheat. They like to steal and they like to do things where their side wins.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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And if they can figure out, look, just think about the way they talk about Trump, the existential threat to democracy, kleptocrat, all these crazy terms that they use. They like they can call him Hitler. And then everything you do to keep Hitler from being in power is a good thing, including fraud. Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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You're justified because you're saving democracy.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Yeah. That's where it gets scary, because then guess what? Fuck face. You set a precedent. And now if the Republicans get in power and they do the same thing and use the same playbook, then they're stealing it. Yeah. Yeah. And you can't fucking do that if you care about America. If you really are a patriot, you can't do that.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

3926.726

Obviously, you had to make some adjustments to the way that people could vote, right, to accommodate the fact that you had a once-in-a-generation, hopefully, pandemic. I'm sure we're going to have another one. God damn it. The WHO has declared a global health crisis for Africa, for monkeypox. They released that. They stopped. They stopped it. Okay.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

3945.802

Let's try it because I think – let's look at that because I think that's also because of pushback because people are like, first of all, what are you talking about? Who's getting this?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's – I think they even pushed back on the name Monkeypox. It's Mpox. Mpox. Mpox. Okay.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Because it's offensive to monkeys.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

3966.66

Okay. To blame them for this.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

3968.881

Well, it was primarily an issue with the gay community in the beginning. So in the beginning, when they tried to call it a national health emergency, they tried to do this a couple of years ago. In the middle of COVID, when people were starting to be a little bit more active and less worried about COVID, they tried to push this Monkeypox thing. Yeah. But there's only four people died from it.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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People want to get mad, first of all, that's the thing. Like Andrew Huberman was talking about that today, that the things that when they study, like what excites people, what people gravitate towards, it's 100% more potent to get angry about things.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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And it was primarily spread sexually.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

3993.806

Yeah, and they did say that the most recent, which was just within the past couple of weeks, I believe, alert or crisis alert for the entire continent of Africa was because it was more virulent. It was more aggressive.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4012.93

I think they're saying it's spread airborne now.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4015.25

Yeah, and so because it was going to be more aggressive or because it was proving to be more aggressive than they call it, but I forgot that they changed the name to MPOCs.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4022.952

Did they drop the national or world health emergency? Did they drop that? Because I was reading something that said they did.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4033.935

When I Google it, it's only showing me like two days ago there was an uptick in New York City. Oh, God.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4039.996

Yeah, I wonder where. It's a bathhouse disease all of a sudden.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4044.637

Wall Street? Yeah. Where? I see from like two weeks ago they had the alert, but I don't see anything about a recall or like a withdrawal or anything.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4053.226

Hmm. Yeah. But the word be a withdrawal. Recall.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4057.59

Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4059.792

But I digress. Maybe try withdrawal. So we expanded the voting parameters or the ability to vote for that moment in time for the pandemic. And yes, you would think reasonable people would say, we don't have the pandemic. Let's at least go back to where we were before the pandemic. Right. In terms of when we could vote and and how. But that didn't happen.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4079.529

And so then you have to ask yourself, being a reasonable person, well, why? Would people just love the new process so much? They thought, oh, my God, we have to keep this? Or was there some benefit to it that they saw? Anyway, again, I would be speculating if I pointed to a particular state or incident and say that was an obvious case of voter fraud.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4103.45

But I do know for a fact that when you expand the playing field for fraud, someone's going to fill that gap. They're going to come in and take advantage of it. And like you said, people want to win.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4116.474

I'm just scared because of the rhetoric. And I'm not just scared because I want one side to win. I'm scared because I think that by overzealously wanting their side to win and doing it so in a way that really isn't fair, that you set up a precedent where anybody can do that in the future. And they think they're justified in doing that.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4139.932

And I feel like there's a lot of people that think 2020 was stolen. And Trump has said it over and over again. But by the way, Hillary said it in 2016 over and over again.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Yeah, I think you're right. There must be some sort of chemical release in being outraged, right, that makes people feel good?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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For several years.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Yeah. They said Russia. And then there's always people saying he's a Russian plant. Russia put him into power. Russian disinformation is why he got... And meanwhile... You know, they were actively doing disinformation on their own, especially with the Biden laptop thing. Zuckerberg coming out and saying that thing yesterday was fucking huge. Yeah. That was huge.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4173.654

And releasing that statement because Mayorkas, didn't he, when he was testifying, he said they didn't do that under oath. So is that perjury? Yeah. Well...

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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You know, not being a lawyer, but I would I would think that you had you had conflicting things because you would also have you would also have someone in government, you know, almost bragging about the fact that, you know, look, we're getting this disinformation taken down during the pandemic. And so, yeah, Zuckerberg coming out and making this statement. I agree with it is huge.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

421.519

I think it's in our wiring, in our DNA, because we always had to look out for threats. So you find things that you perceive are threats or things that are going to be a problem, and you get angry about them, and you do it on social media instead of in the jungle.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4213.402

It's sort of Zuckerberg going, eh, what are you going to do?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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We're going to do better next time. Well, he said, we're not going to engage in that anymore. We're going to push back. And he said, they're not going to promote one side or the other.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4224.926

There's a brilliant thought. Crazy. Yeah. It's crazy. Oh, my God. Really? So you run a free speech platform and you're not going to promote one or the other. Well, what a fucking douchebag to now come up with the idea. Right. Yeah. So and I'm sure he's a smart fellow. But he's a smart fellow.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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But I think he's also in an enormous corporation. And it's not like he's the only guy pulling strings over there.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Yeah. I'm sure that's true. That's like when Musk took over Twitter and you had a lot of people jump and ship just, oh, I'm so upset because now I can't engage in this censorship that I've been engaged in. Yeah, exactly.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4260.545

But it is a cesspool over there now. You see some wild shit on Twitter, but you have to see the horrible shit if you want to see everything. If you want to see everything, that means even things you don't agree with and don't like. That's part of free speech. And this is what Musk has been saying, and I 100% agree with him. And I wonder where we would be if he hadn't bought Twitter. I really do.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4283.782

Because there wouldn't be a platform like that where anybody can freely talk about anything and not worry about being... Your account getting taken down and getting in trouble with the government.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4293.85

Yeah. I mean, I don't think people would have migrated in mass to what's Trump's thing? Truth social. I don't think that didn't work. That didn't work out. And then he's got 90 million followers. I read on X now. Oh, yeah, he's back on X. He's back on, but he's already up to 90 million.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4308.952

Yeah, it's not shocking.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4309.933

Yeah, no.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4310.413

Well, that's, and you look at polls on X when they've done, I think Musk might have done one. I think there's a few of them. It's like 73% said they're voting for Trump. Yeah. But you look on the polls that you see on television, Harris is ahead.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4324.198

Yeah. Three points. Exactly. I was going to say, it's neck and neck, or Trump may have a two-point or three-point lead in a place like Georgia. But for the most part, she's pulled even and is slightly ahead.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4335.203

Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4337.59

Who the fuck are they polling?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4339.075

This is the problem. Yeah. There were a lot of people arguing about how accurate any polling is anymore.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4348.11

Well, look, in 2016, it wasn't accurate at all, right?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4350.851

Because Hillary Clinton was like 84% to win. Well, somebody knocks on your door. They call you up and say, are you going to vote for Trump? There's a lot of people out there that may decide, okay, I'm going to vote for Trump, but I'm not going to tell you I'm going to vote for Trump.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

436.483

Yeah, I think... With the Trump thing, though, I was surprised at how, because it was about a day and a half, maybe, maybe it was 36 hours, of, oh, fuck, how could this happen? Look what we created, this environment. We have to be more civil with each other. And that was a big push from the Democrats, right? You remember Biden and Harris talking about... We've got to be more civil.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4362.518

No, I would never vote for him.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4364.119

No, that seems unreasonable. So, yeah, again, I don't know that you can trust a lot of the polls for either side, right? But I will say there's gonna be one unhappy group regardless of the result.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4375.704

That's what I'm scared of.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4376.764

I'm scared of the violence Yeah, I'm scared that whichever side loses they they might erupt You know, it's got a whole keep their shit together, but I think Even above and beyond if people can do that and keep their shit together and not not you know Not get in into a violent situation. We're still going to be dealing then with four years of

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4398.288

of just dysfunctional bullshit, right, from one side or the other. Right. Just harping on this and people having investigations and committees up on Capitol Hill. And you get to this point where it's just paralysis. Right. Shit doesn't get done. And, you know, I don't know.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4413.219

I think this one, I say this and then I piss off a lot of people who are very pro-Trump, but I'm really worried that, you know, because, again, I don't know. I don't have a dog in the hunt for either individual. I just like policies, right? And particularly, I like national security issues and homeland security concerns and things like that.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4432.811

You can't really argue that the Republicans are the party of small government or fiscal responsibility anymore. But I think certainly for border concerns, for national security, I'm definitely on that side. So I'm worried that, you know, Trump is, he's got a ceiling, right? He's got all the people who are always going to vote for him. There's no doubt about that.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4457.026

But you don't really have to care about, well, you do care about them, but you don't have to worry about them, right? That ceiling only gets higher and allows him to win if he gets some of those moderates and the undecideds, the people who- Well, I think that's where RFK Jr.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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comes in. It could be.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4473.078

And Tulsi Gabbard now as well.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4474.379

Tulsi Gabbard, yeah. What do you think about that? That's interesting. It's pretty powerful. Yeah. I mean, a Democrat senator, she was a congresswoman for eight years.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4485.189

I think she could actually move the needle more than RFK Jr.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4499.805

Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4500.425

That's a wild ticket.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4518.297

I at least appreciate the fact that Bernie Sanders is consistent in his socialist beliefs. But I think, was J.D. Vance the best choice? Eh, I don't know. I mean, he's Ohio. Were we in danger of losing Ohio? I don't think so.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4537.546

I think Trump likes a weak middle act. I don't think, you know, as a headliner, I don't think I want someone to upstage him. You know? It's like a lot of comics like that. They take a guy in the row with them. You want him to do okay, but not great. Exactly.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4553.558

I don't want to be back there and hear this standing ovation.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4556.541

Yeah, Ron White will fire a strong middle act. He tells me. He's open about it. He talks about it all the time. I want to be the funniest person on that stage, and if I'm not, you got to go. Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4570.413

I love the honesty. So maybe that was it. But I was puzzled. I thought he might pick a female for his running mate.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4579.038

Yeah, I thought so too, maybe. But I think maybe he's worried about some Republican men don't want a female. Or some people that are on the fence don't want a female.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4588.704

Yeah. It depends if it's a hot female. Like who? Scarlett Johansson. Whoa. I don't think she's voting Republican.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4596.93

Oh, yeah. Good point. She's not going to... She's not going to flop over to the other side.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

460.897

We've got to dial it back and turn down the temperature. And that lasted, for that side, that lasted almost no time at all. Less than two days. Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4601.532

Who's like a hot Republican female that's famous? Amber Rose. She's all pro-Trump now.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4609.736

Never heard of her. You don't know who she is? No. Sidney Sweeney. Is Sidney Sweeney a Republican? I doubt it. She just hosted SNL.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4617.34

But meanwhile, Trump did at one point in time, too.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4619.681

Yeah, yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4620.601

That's what's really crazy when you watch Trump on The View from like 2015 when they all loved him. Yeah, that's right. Played that the other day.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4627.124

It's nuts. They're all being cute with him.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4631.165

How about Oprah? Oprah was talking about her and Trump running together.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4635.707

I know.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4636.547

And now she's speaking to the DNC that he's a threat to democracy. It's going to end it. And she's up there talking about income inequality. Like, hey lady. Yeah, I know. You're rich as fuck. Like, how is that equal? And also, when Michelle Obama was saying, you know, I think she was saying her mother or grandmother was always suspicious of people who took more than they needed.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4656.969

You are worth so much money. I'm kidding me. That's so crazy.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4661.13

God.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4662.35

You did it on a civil servant's salary, which is insane.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4665.211

Oh, they all do, right? Yeah. Look at... I haven't seen the latest figures, but I'd love to know the current personal wealth of AOC. You know, the bartender who turned congresswoman. Probably doing pretty well. I think she's doing quite well. Ilhan Omar. I think they're all doing fairly well. Even, to be fair, Bernie Sanders, who I just said stood on principle. But, you know, hey, he's making bank.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

468.185

And they were back calling him a piece of shit and a liar.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4690.223

Yeah, I... I don't know. Maybe I'm drawing a blank on hot Republican women other than my wife.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4699.228

Want to see a picture of Amber Rose? Sure. Show them Amber Rose.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4703.79

No.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4705.131

I didn't know where you were going with that. Take out a piece of a photograph that you tore out of a magazine.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

471.128

Yeah, and a threat to democracy, and he's got to be stopped. Unbelievable. And, you know, now to be fair, neither side really stuck to the idea. I would argue, if Trump...

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4710.634

What does she do? What is her actual job, Jamie? She had a baby with Wiz Khalifa.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4717.071

I would say you could call her a model, probably. A model. Influencer model. Okay.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4721.294

Influencer slash model. Maybe model first, influencer second. She a vlogger? That's a thing. She's got a forehead tattoo. What does it say?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4733.807

no regrets something slash slash slash slash anyway pretty hot yeah well no for sure I'm not sure about the forehead tattoo though yeah I think that's gotta go but they can laser that off later but she likes Trump so that might be like the hottest one currently available

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4756.67

Okay.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4757.491

Oh, she spoke at the RNC.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4759.812

Look at her there.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4760.673

Okay. Pretty hot. Yeah. There you go. Look, her forehead tattoo was in cursives. So, you know, there was some tattoo artist out there who still knows cursive. Back in the day. Yeah. Probably an older guy. Some grizzled guy. Popeye on his arm. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, yeah. Middle East's on fire. I wish we'd probably talk about that a little bit, maybe. Fucking Middle East.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4784.551

Yeah, well, obviously there's Gaza, but there's also a lot of hot spots popping off.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4792.543

Yeah. Yeah. There's a shit ton of hot spots going on right now. And it's all down to Iran. I think we've talked about this once or twice before. And I think I've been accused of promoting regime change, which I'm not. I'm saying, well, OK, I am as long, you know, but it should happen inside. Right.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4811.124

And you'd like to think that one day and I'm sure that. Every administration in the U.S. for decades now has been imagining that would happen. That'd be a popular uprising that would actually change the regime. And then you might actually get something that could resemble long term peace.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

482.205

If Trump had just said, you know what, from a strategic point of view, maybe it's not me, maybe it's not what I want to do, but from a strategic point of view, if after that attempt had happened and he had just walked that civil line and said, you know, I've had a reflective moment, and if he had kept the high road, think about the disparity there.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4828.777

But right now, all this crap that's happening related to Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, Islamic Jihad, militias in Iraq and Syria. It's all down to Iran, right? And just over the past, goddammit, over the past four days, this past weekend, Hezbollah and Israel had the largest exchange of fire that they've had in, well, in ages, right? And you have to go back to actual war between the two.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4864.369

And I will say, this is the amazing thing. And this is why I think people always say, well, how come Iran hasn't retaliated for the death of Ismail Hanyai when they took him out in Tehran? Part of me thinks that the reason they haven't is because that operation to take out Khanye in Tehran, he was in a safe house on an IRGC compound in Tehran. So you would imagine that's a pretty secure place.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4889.745

It's pretty buttoned up. And it's a safe house that Khanye had been to in the past on a handful of occasions. So, the idea that Mossad and other elements of Israeli intelligence could develop assets in Tehran within the IRGC that allow them to carry out that operation – if they did, I'm not saying they did, but if they did –

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4918.763

is remarkable, and it shows the depth of their abilities in terms of identifying targets for possible recruitment, and then working those targets, and then recruiting them, and then tasking them. Inside a safe house in an IRGC-guarded compound in Tehran, They had to have assets who were willing to walk in there with explosive devices, because there's more than one, and put them in there.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4943.179

Those folks, you know, got off the X. They got out of country, you know, you would think. And they had to have a trigger there. They still had to have an asset who could say, you know, go or no go, because Kanye now is back in the safe house at, you know, midnight or 1 a.m. or 2 a.m. And so it's time to, you know, cross the red wire with the green wire. And... That's amazing.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

4969.485

And so I think, in part, that has completely freaked out. Maybe it says, how old am I? Freaked out. They're so freaked out. The Iranian leadership and the IRGC, they don't know what the depth of that penetration is by Mossad and others. And so the idea that this is happening, and I guess the point there is, then you look at what they did to the Hezbollah commander, Fuad Shukur. in Beirut.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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And getting him to move, he was in a building, a multi-story building, and they wanted him to move up to his residence, which was on the top floor. And he was in his office, which was, I think, the second floor of that building. And they were able to orchestrate a call to get him to go up to the top deck so he could be an easier target, and they could minimize casualties, and took him out.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

501.459

Because the Democrats, they would have, first of all, they would have gone crazy because they wouldn't have known what to do. But they also wouldn't have been able to help themselves. So they would have turned into, you know, they would have thrown the hand grenades again as usual. And then you would have had Trump over here being the reasonable one and being the reflective and civil one.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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So now you've got that ability. You've got that sort of thing going on. How did they do that? Well, you have to have assets. You have to recruit people who are in a position to be able to do that, who have access, who can tell you things, who can identify something as simple as his routine. He typically goes upstairs to the top deck at 7 o'clock or whatever.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5045.417

Or you have to have someone who's willing and has got access to make that call to get him to go upstairs. And how did they get him when he went upstairs? Drone strike. And drones have completely changed the game. Everything. But then this massive barrage that took place over the weekend between Hezbollah and Israel, amazingly –

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5071.391

The leader of Hezbollah, a fellow named Nasrallah, he has said, in the wake of that, he's talked about their attack. And he said that the timing of it was a quarter after 5 in the morning. 5.15 in the morning, we're going to launch this barrage. At 4.55 in the morning, Israel sends about 100 jets. over the border to attack launch sites, right?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5098.863

So once again, they had this intelligence, this advanced knowledge, right? So I think that and a variety of other hits that they've been able to accomplish, Mohamed Def and some of these other characters, I think that the Iranian regime and the IRGC, right now, there's a level of paranoia. It's like the old IRA days. The IRA was worried about infiltration, you know, back in the troubles.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5122.483

And it created a lot of infighting, right? It created a lot of disappearances. And you're getting that, too. After that Hanyeh hit in Tehran... A number of IRGC people were interrogated about, you know, they were trying to figure out where's the leaks here. And that just leads to an ever-widening circle of interrogations and disappearances. So in that infighting, I'm not saying it's bad. Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5151.649

It's like getting a cartel to infight, right? Start killing each other. Anyway, so that's one thing that I'm thinking, because people are always asking, how come Iran hasn't retaliated for the Hanyeh hit yet? And part of it is also, I think they're worried about... legitimately getting into a direct conflict with Israel.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

517.01

That would have been a good strategy.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5170.468

They understand that the U.S., regardless of where the Biden administration may be and how less they would like not to be in that conflict, they're going to have to be in the conflict. And so Iran can't win that. And so I think they're worried about that as well. So there's reasons behind it. But, you know, there's a lot going on. Israel has just launched a massive operation in West Bank.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

518.27

Yeah, but it didn't happen.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

519.551

No, it's not in his nature.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5193.354

So they're up in the northern portion of the West Bank going after militants up there. And Hamas and Islamic Jihad and some others operate in the West Bank, even though the Palestinian Authority runs it. So they're up north. They've just moved in overnight, basically. And they're going after terrorist elements up there. But Iran has been shoving weapons into the West Bank.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

521.272

No, no.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

521.892

That's the scorpion and the frog. I forgot about that story. That's right. The scorpion eats it right across the pond.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5217.155

Because what they want to do is, if you think about where Israel is, you think about Gaza's on the west side, Hezbollah's up north, West Bank's over on the east. They want to create more of a front on the east side. And they basically got them engulfed. And so they've been funneling weapons and resources into the West Bank for several years.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5238.663

They've got smuggling routes going through Lebanon, going through Syria, going through Jordan. So I guess my point being, all this shit is down to the Iranian regime and the IRGC. So when people talk about, we've got to get a ceasefire, we've got to work for a lasting peace, unless you get rid of those guys, there's no lasting peace.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5256.849

Now, what happened during when Biden was in office, I guess he's kind of still in office, where they released somewhere in the neighborhood of $6 billion to Iran that they had tied up? Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5274.216

They released it. And their point was it's where we're controlling it. We're not really releasing it sitting over in Qatar. And it can be used for humanitarian purposes only. And we're doing that in part because, look, they've had a policy of appeasement towards Iran for for the entire Biden administration.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

528.575

Yeah, exactly. It's the same thing. I mean, that guy loves to talk shit. He's calling Tim Walz Tampon Tim now. Yeah. He's so good at it. It's such a good nickname. He's so good at it. He's so good at that shit. Oh, my God.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5293.471

And, you know, they've been desperate and they've been very open about wanting to get back into the, you know, the 2015 nuclear agreement that was created under the Obama administration. But the idea is, look, they essentially gave $6 billion. They advised the Iranian regime that you now have $6 billion available to you for humanitarian purposes, which, you know, it's all fungible.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5322.113

So it frees up other money, right, that they can now use to help to resource the Houthis or help to resource Hezbollah or Hamas, whatever. They don't make a secret of it, right? It's like Putin talking about how he wants to recreate the old Soviet Union in some fashion. The Iranian regime has stated over and over again they want the destruction of Israel, right?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5341.661

And that's why they built up all these terrorist elements. They've got the same objective because their puppet master is Iran. So I don't want to oversimplify this, but it's not that hard to oversimplify because it's just the way it is. Iran is at the top of this thing and they're causing all of this instability because Iran

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5360.629

Ultimately, they want to see Israel removed from the map, which sounds to me like genocide. But, you know, it's it's Israel that's constantly accused of genocide. They're driving the narrative. The other side, Palestinian supporters and others have been very good at driving the narrative. And so I don't know. But so anyway, point being is the Middle East is a bit of a fucked up mess.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5384.088

It is a bit of a fucked up mess. And it's kind of always a fucked up mess. There's never been a time in my life where you weren't worried about something popping off in the Middle East.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5393.035

Yeah. Well, in part because we've had the same bad actors there with the same objective for all these years. Right. And. There's, you know, there's no indication that that's going to change anytime soon. Right. I mean, we don't nobody wants to get in the game anymore of regime change. Never seems to work out so good. It's a problem. Yeah. Oh, God. Nobody ever says Libya, right?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5418.608

So I give you a lot of credit because nobody ever talks about Libya anymore. It's a hot mess. And we kind of agreed with the French and Italians to go in there and get rid of Gaddafi, even though he was... For a while, he was helping us out in counterterrorism. I don't want to make more than that than it is, but he was there and he would provide some assistance related to counterterrorism. But...

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Suddenly, it was, oh, sure, we'll help the French and Italians. They were the only ones with any national interests in Libya to speak of. And now it's a disaster.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5447.933

What did Gaddafi do that pissed them off?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5449.775

Well... God, I'm having a Biden moment that you'd have to go back and I'd have to look and see what they were what they're arguing about.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

546.77

Look at what we're getting. We're getting Harris and we're getting Walsh. Unbelievable.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5460.84

It has to be something with money.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5462.321

Yeah, I'm sure it was. You know, look, Libya was, you know, it's been a kind of a the the revenue stream coming out of Libya, such as it is for oil and gas has always been. mostly in the hands of the French, the Italians, their oil companies, so Total and others. I think right now, look, the place has 130 plus tribes. There's no central government. It's a massive place, right, to be fair.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5493.278

There's no central government. There's warring factions now constantly. But I guess the point being that nobody ever talks about it anymore. Yeah. So we just disappear. We just let it go. It's like Afghanistan. Yeah. I'm tired of it. Let's get the fuck out.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5506.687

It really got highlighted for two very specific reasons. One, the Hillary Clinton moment where she was being interviewed and she got a phone call or a text message saying that there is apparently an unconfirmed report that Gaddafi had been captured. And then he was dead. And so while she's doing the thing, we came, we saw he died. And she's laughing, which is just a terrible look for anybody.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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What do you think about Walsh's descriptions of his military career? Because there's there's some issues there that people have. I don't know if he flat out ever said that he served in Afghanistan, but he certainly didn't dissuade people from saying that he was when they were saying he didn't correct them.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5539.298

Forget about someone who's the Secretary of State, but someone who... is a person who's talking about some guy that they just had killed, and she's laughing. It was just a crazy moment. So then everybody's like, well, what the fuck happened in Libya? And then there was the video of Qaddafi actually being captured by the rebels where they stick that bayonet up his ass, and you're like, yo.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5561.337

Like, that is a crazy video.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5564.26

It's like hanging Mussolini upside down and, you know, beating him.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5567.963

We don't have high-res photos of that.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5569.665

We don't have video. The video is crazy.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5573.068

When they're parading him around, you see the look in his eyes when he knows it's over. Yeah. When they've got him.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5577.332

Yeah. Well, look, I mean, he was nobody's idea of a benevolent leader. Yeah, there he is right there.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5581.275

Yeah. They're beating him up. See if you can get the video. The video is what's crazy. Yeah. The look in his eyes, the fucking terror in that guy's eyes. What's the real reason why they killed Muammar Gaddafi? If you could just go to videos or anything of it.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5599.805

It was a bunch of other videos. That's why it looked like it was people doing their own commentary on it.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Yeah. Killed by a bullet in the stomach and a band-aid up his ass.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5614.284

Yeah, it's a crazy video, man. The video is very, who shot Qaddafi? Probably everybody shot him eventually. Yeah. Interesting. Well, video certainly exists. You probably get it on Telegram of all places, which is where I would go. That's where I go if like when there was Ukraine footage, a lot of crazy shit that you could see, you would get it on Telegram because they wouldn't censor it.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5642.56

And I don't exactly know how Telegram works because I don't use it that much, but I guess you could start a channel and then anybody can kind of go to your channel and you could post things. Is this it right here? Yeah, this is it. decoding Qaddafi's death I can help you with that so this is just them having him captured and he's bleeding and they're beating the shit out of him yeah they're not

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5673.803

Are they showing the thing or are you doing that?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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I'm not doing it.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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It's all in slow motion. So it's almost like stop motion video.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5679.569

I think someone's probably talking. It says decoding the thing.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5682.332

This is the end when he's already dead.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5684.814

That video that said the real reason. Suggestions say he was trying to start a global currency for Africa or something.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5693.627

Ah, well, that'll get you killed. Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5695.829

God, that's why I never got into that project. Yeah, fuck all that.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5701.034

Yeah, fuck that. But, yeah, I mean, to that point, yeah, we do tend to, you know, get in, get out. There might be a mess left behind.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5712.005

Yeah, it never works out well. Yeah. I mean, even Iraq. Look at Iraq. The chaos, the fact that they didn't know that the Sunnis and the Shias were going to fight is nuts. How do you not understand there's two competing factors of Islam that are there?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5728.157

Or the idea that we would think, okay, well, I guess the Taliban is going to keep their promise and they're going to worry about women's rights. That's important for them. Yeah, that's been one of their cornerstones.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5738.481

Well, what's really important, we left them $6 billion worth of weapons. When they had that parade the other day when they're flying around?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

574.391

Right. There was things he did and he didn't. And you can look at interviews and and there's no pushback. There's no like, excuse me, you know, I didn't go to Iraq. Exactly. And I retired, you know, as my unit was deploying. And so... Well, you retired a couple months before. A couple months before, yes. What is the whole story behind it? They know that they're going, right?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5744.864

Oh, a lot more than that in terms of monetary value. I mean, shit, you could go upwards of maybe $80 billion in gear. Really? All in, right? All in.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5757.774

When they had that parade the other day and they got tanks and Blackhawks, you're like, what? Yeah, yeah. So they know how to fly that stuff?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5765.14

So maybe, who knows? Maybe they'll ask that tomorrow night. Because I think it was Biden who said that. Yeah, here it is. Here's their parade.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5773.706

It's like, this is fucking bananas. This is all our stuff, and they're all driving around with our stuff with fucking missiles. Like, they have missiles? They didn't have missiles? Now they do? This is fucking bananas. The fact that this is all our gear, taxpayers paid for all this stuff, and they just left it there. It looks good. Nice white walls. Look at that. Clean tires, armor all...

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5803.362

Well, it's a parade, you know. What the fuck?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5805.122

It's a parade.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5806.063

What the fuck? They have so much stuff. That's so crazy that these people were basically like tribal mountain warlords and now they've got Blackhawks.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5813.467

Yeah, yeah. Well, again, going back to at the beginning and what kind of interview we're going to be looking at for tomorrow evening with Harrison Walsh.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5821.851

uh you'd like to think that they say look you you've been here now for a while and you've been around and you've kind of seen a lot um you know would you like to talk about the afghan withdrawal you know maybe just you know talk about what's your policy towards you know the middle east what ask some serious legitimate questions but i you know who knows again i hope that happens i just don't think it i don't think it will i think they picked this for a reason

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5847.091

Yeah, I think this is going to be a nice little softball pitch. Nice underhand lobs. We know where the ball's coming. You can knock it out of the park. They're game planning right now, planning it out.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5862.304

Yeah, I just, again, it's the lack of It's that thing that I don't I understand. And I keep saying the same thing. I get it. Their argument is always the same. But but Trump. But you would think, OK, set that fucking thing aside for a minute and ask yourself, is this the best choice you've got? Does this make sense compared to what you thought a month and a half ago?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5887.317

But now, again, they're very good at this. So that's that's the thought I have is if the Republicans think somehow. And they thought it was a cakewalk, right? When it was Biden, to be fair, it was.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5901.642

Everything got real complicated after she had that one good speech.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5904.143

Yep, yep.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5905.403

Because that's all people need to see, someone who seems younger, more vital, and acts presidential.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5910.705

Right.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5911.145

Or acts like a leader.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5912.305

Yeah. Yeah, that's the part I'm having a hard time with. A leader.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5917.366

Act like one in this small speech, and most people are low-information voters. When you think the majority of people are headline readers, they're not reading the whole article. Low information voters.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5930.263

Yeah. Well, and certainly... Yeah, you're right. You get consumed with this, right? But then you have to assume that the vast majority of people, to your point, don't, right? They take a couple of headlines, they take a couple of things, and they go, fine, I've made my choice. I can't be bothered to think about it anymore because it's fucking boring or I've got too much else to do.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5951.378

I've got to put food on the table. So, yeah, I suppose so.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5955.1

Yeah, and they're also ideologically committed to a team.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5961.022

and it's very difficult to get people to switch teams especially when the guy on the other side is someone like Trump you know if you have someone who's like a little bit more balanced like Vivek let's say Trump didn't exist and Vivek makes it like that's a much more reasonable person for most people he's got great temperament he's really good at staying calm in the middle of like heated debates and recognizing a person's point and then adding on to it I think he's

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#2197 - Mike Baker

597.187

It's not like they suddenly get a paper, you know, on one day. There's a buildup to that, and they're aware of it. And so, you know, even his personnel were saying, look, we all knew we were going. He knew he was going. No, okay, fine. He made the decision, right? But I think...

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#2197 - Mike Baker

5990.84

amazing at it yeah he's much more and he also he he sounds more familiar in the sense that he's you know he's eloquent about when he when he talks i was surprised that trump didn't pick him as vp yeah yeah maybe he didn't want it he said he didn't want to be vp maybe he's telling the truth maybe he wants to be president and he feels like this is not the time if he doesn't get the nomination yeah yeah that guy's brilliant

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#2197 - Mike Baker

60.106

Man, the replacer always gets it done. Seriously, though, if you're hooked on Call of Duty, this is your time to jump in. Head over to callofduty.com slash blackops6 to get in the game. Call of Duty Black Ops 6. Available now. Rated M for Mature. This episode is brought to you by The Farmer's Dog. Dogs are amazing. They're loyal. They're lovable.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6012.623

I think he said that. Didn't Trump say that he's going to put Gabbard and an RFK Jr. on his campaign staff, on his advisory? Something. It was more than just like an advisor or something like that. It was a fairly senior role in the campaign. Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6029.496

Well, they're out there with him. Yeah. So it seems like that's the case. And that's a wise move on his part. Yeah. Because they're dealing with a massive propaganda machine that's been propped up to support Kamala. And they've done it in a weird way where they were just a few months ago talking about her as being a problem. She was a liability at one point. Oh, yeah. No, for quite a long time.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6054.363

Openly discussed her as a liability. Yeah. And just in the short period of time, if all you do is look at what she's saying in a limited fashion because she hasn't said much about her positions on things compared to what she did say, again, same thing. Leading into this interview, you would think that's a lot of fodder for the person that's handling the interview, Dana Bash or whoever. Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6080.171

To say, well, okay, wait a minute. You were all in on, pick something.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6084.075

Oh, tax on tips.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6085.517

Tax on tips. Here's the thing.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6086.558

She was the deciding vote where they were going to go after waitresses for taxes on tips. He comes along and says, I'm not going to tax tips. And then she comes along just a short time. time period afterwards. And Parrot's the exact same things that he said. And now the most recent one, she's going to build a border wall.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6107.117

She's going to build a border wall. She's all in on the border wall. $685 million. Get that done. When she had called it a complete scam and waste of taxpayer money just a handful of years ago, she was all in on EVs. We're going to get rid of fossil fuels. You're not going to be able to drive that fucking gas truck. And somebody smashed into my truck, by the way, the other day.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

611.818

With his, what do you want to call it, padding of his resume for political purposes, obviously, when he was running for Congress.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6129.647

Yeah, I just got completely T-boned. This guy just pulled out into the road, didn't even look. I was staring at him. Probably on his phone.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6137.029

Watching TikToks about Kamala Harris.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6139.87

God, I love that Kamala Harris. And then he just, bam, right into my truck. And I swerved. Luckily, there was nobody on my left-hand side. But I swerved so I wouldn't hit him head-on, you know, engine block to engine block. So he caught the right driver's side front panel. And because I was swerving, it just took the whole side of that truck because he was still going. This was in Idaho?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6159.308

This was in Idaho, yeah. Normally, I always think we've got great drivers in Idaho. But anyway, so that happened. How was the interaction between you and the guy? I was really angry. I was really angry. I pulled over, and he pulled over, and I was fucking livid because I could look at him. But I was moving. I was doing about 35 miles on a decent-sized road, right?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6181.483

And there's two lanes on that road and two lanes on the other side going the opposite direction. And he just didn't even bother to say he was going to exit and come out onto the road and join the traffic. He just didn't even bother to wait.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

619.626

There's more than one thing, too, right? He said he was a head coach. Yeah, he was a head coach. He was not a head coach. He was an assistant coach, which is an honorable thing. There's nothing wrong with being an assistant coach. Yeah. Absolutely. And he also inflated his actual rank, right? He was slated to achieve a certain rank. Right. And how did it go?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6190.669

he just he just pulled right in front so he yeah to your point he was he was busy doing something else and so i park and i'm just steaming i'm getting out of the truck and luckily emily was there luckily she wasn't hurt because she was in the passenger side and she said no no no you you sit here i'll take care of this because i was just so angry and uh and uh

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6211.286

In part because she was in the car, right? And in part because I was driving to the vet to pick up my big dog, the golden retriever. And thank God he wasn't in the back of the truck, right? Right. When we got hit. So anyway, but I calmed down after a while. The guy was, you know, fine. He was nice enough. He was very apologetic and all that, but...

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6228.605

Anyway, so – man, I can disappear down a rabbit hole quicker than anybody. So she's all in on EVs just a handful of years ago. She's – goddammit, we got to be all electric vehicles by 2035 or 2040. And she's on news shows talking about this. This is my policy. This is what I want. And now her staff is saying, oh, no, she never did that.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6251.717

They just – they don't see anything wrong with telling people – That, you know, here's the truth. You just don't pay attention to anything that we did before. Don't pay attention to the fact that she's been vice president for all this time.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6265.442

She has nothing to do with the Biden administration decisions, even though she was there, even though President Biden said, oh, usually she's the last person in the room when we talk about the important things. And now they just want everybody to buy this bullshit. Right. Because she's younger and she's a woman and there's a good vibe.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6282.037

I wish that he would go and do a tell-all. Who, Biden? Yeah. Tell us what happened.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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If he can remember.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6289.347

How'd they get you out of there? I was in Vietnam.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6292.672

And I was fighting the Smurfs. I was in a foxhole with corn pop. And, uh... Cannibals ate my uncle. Uncle Posey.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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I think it was Uncle Posey. I mean, but if you could get him lucid enough for him to explain what they did and how they did it. Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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And who came to him and what they said. You know what they did? You know what it is? It's the Democrats. I hadn't thought about this before, but they got a kind of a habit of this. Look what they did to RFK Jr. Look what they did to Bernie Sanders. Remember him? Oh, yeah. Pushing him out in 2016. 2016 and then again in 2020. Oh, yeah. So this is kind of in their playbook. Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6328.363

So pushing Biden out was that they just, you know, turn the chapter back. Let's see. What do we do with Sanders?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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I would have to say that it's very undemocratic.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6336.388

Oh, it seems they're just doing this to save democracy by subverting democracy.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6341.632

You got to save democracy by putting someone into the position to be running for president that nobody voted for.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6348.256

Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Which is really wild.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6350.538

Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6351.138

Nobody voted for that. Well, yeah, I think Biden fucked them. I think by endorsing her when he was leaving, he fucked them. Yeah. Well, that's just my theory.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6360.642

But think about this. How how would they how would they have come up with any other decision? Because if you think about what's his name? Shapiro in Pennsylvania or Westmore or these other candidates, even Gavin Newsom, although he doesn't have a hope in hell. Pete Buttigieg, who I think always fancies himself to be president. Good luck. Right.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6382.169

All these people, though, that, well, what do they have in common? Well, they're white men. Okay. How could they possibly throw their hat in the ring against Kamala Harris and have a political future for the next election? Right, right, right.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Like, he had to commit to the fact that he wasn't going to retire in order to achieve his rank? Is that what it was?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Not get labeled. Exactly.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6399.574

Yeah. And so they would have gotten the RFK Jr. treatment. And they knew that was probably the death call for their political career in the Dem Party. So they may not have had really any option.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6414.046

But wasn't there also something about the campaign war chest? Like to get access to the money that was already in there, you had to be a part of the ticket?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6424.176

Yeah, and so that was – I'm sure – okay, this sounds odd to say that cash might have played a role in politics. You think? It doesn't sound right. It's legal, isn't it? It doesn't sound right. I think it's – yeah, so you're right. That was a part of it. But the point being is maybe it's – it wasn't so much a – it was a very calculated, obviously, thing that –

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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He didn't finish, essentially, the program, the coursework, you know, for a command sergeant major.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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nobody really cared about on the Democratic side. They were just waiting for someone to tell them what to do. And once they did and said, okay, it's Kamala, everyone was like, oh my God, she's fabulous. She's the best ever. She's the best ever. I know I said she was a midwit who's failed upwards spectacularly before, but now she's fantastic. And they've all lined up in really impressive fashion.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6475.355

So anyway, that's- Their previous statements are all on record, unfortunately. Yeah. Yeah. Nothing dies anymore on the internet except for Gaddafi. He's definitely, he definitely died on the internet.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6489.204

He died.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6490.625

Although I remember Trump. He died like a dog.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6492.887

Died like a dog. Died like a dog. You ever see Shane Gillis' bit on that? It's fantastic.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6498.03

So good. It's so good.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6500.411

He has the best Trump impression. It is. It is really. Fucking dead on.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6505.194

I wonder how long he had to work on that.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6507.135

He's really good. Yeah. He's really good at impressions. But that one in particular, he doesn't do a lot of impressions, but the ones he can do.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6513.779

I mean, it's not like Rich Little. Right. Right.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6516.36

But he can make the noises, the Trump noises.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

652.052

Can you explain how that works?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6520.763

He does the sucking in, showing the lower teeth. That's so good. Oh, Baghdadi. Tied like a dog.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

653.513

Well, I mean, he had the rank, right? He was awarded—I think he had gone to— Where did he go? I think he went to Italy on an assignment. Look, so he's in the National Guard, right? So first of all, there was sort of this, I've served for 24 years. He's not really saying that. His supporters and the people on the Democrat side say, well, he served for 24 years. Yes, he did. Okay.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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We have beautiful dogs.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6535.379

That's the name of his specials, Beautiful Dogs.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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I know this sounds wrong because what I really want is I want the Republican policies for, again, for national security and other purposes to be in place and to actually focus on important things down the road. And I don't want price controls. That's another thing, by the way, that she's walked back or her team has walked back. She came out with a price control idea for food, for groceries.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6560.027

Which is fucking communism. Fucking communism. And also, we've got plenty of case studies that show it doesn't work. And not only does it not work, it fails really badly. And no case studies that show it does work. And they're walking it back already. They're walking it back. That's a week ago. Yeah. She reminds me. There was a... Peter Sellers, we talked about Pink Panther.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6579.839

There was a Peter Sellers movie called Being There. And she reminds me of his character in Being There called Chance the Gardener. And he was basically just this adult, but people kind of poured their ideas onto him, right? And then imagined that he was brilliant and insightful and a visionary. Right.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Back to Kato.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6600.367

Yeah. I can never get enough of that. So, anyway. God. We haven't even talked about Russia. Russia, Russia. Yeah. Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6612.96

Well, that's spooky shit that's going on now, too, because Ukraine is now in Russia attacking. That's a...

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6620.094

If you had said, when we got together the last time, if you said, you think Ukraine might invade Russia? Right. Yeah. First time they've had an invading army on their turf since World War II. Crazy. And now, apparently, it looks like they hold up to, Ukrainian military is holding up to about 500 square miles of territory. Wow. And they've just made some moves in a different section of Russia.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6647.012

Not the Kursk region, but the Belgorod region. And so they've had some incursions into there like they may think about maybe we're going to open up a second front. And it's, I mean, it is fascinating. The Russians have had, Putin initially kind of dismissed it a little bit. You know, he was sort of like, ah, it's just a one-time thing.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6664.714

Then they hung in there and then they've established supply lines. And now there's 200,000 plus residents in that region of the Kursk region that have been displaced. So what do you got? You got a lot of population upset about this. Right. So now you got more news internally that isn't a good thing for Putin. He's always worried about, you know, sort of popular unrest like any dictator would be.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6689.043

And so it's I mean, it is it is fascinating. And they've been you know, they've been using U.S. and NATO munitions. So remember, the first two years, the Biden White House was like, nope, you can't use U.S. munitions for striking targets inside of Russia. And then recently, it was, okay, just along the border. And now, you know, fuck it, they're well into the Kursk region.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6715.396

And, you know, so it is, it's very fascinating. It's also very worrisome, right? You've got Belarus has put a third of their military on the border that they have with Ukraine. And Belarus is run by a guy named Lukashenko, who's basically a Putin puppet. So you have to wonder, are they going to try to stretch Ukraine resources thin? How long can they hold territory inside Russia?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

673.521

But it's the National Guard. And that doesn't mean, I'm not disrespecting at all anyone who serves in the National Guard. It's a very honorable thing to do. I'm just saying they're kind of conflating, just like he did with his rank or these other things, the idea that somehow he was Over there for 24 years. Full-time, 24 years in the military.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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I mean, I would argue that basically this is a ploy, and it seems like that's the way it's playing out with some comments from Zelensky over the past couple of days, that it's a move to try to strengthen their hand, to force Putin to the table, to come up with some type of negotiated settlement. And Zelensky came out and said, look, I've got a proposal that I'm going to present to Russia.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6767.842

Biden or whomever's in charge at the U.N. General Assembly week in September, I think it is in New York. And he's being more open about now in the past day or so of talking about how this move into Russia is all about creating a better negotiating situation for them. And he's right. Right. The only way you get Putin to the table is.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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And get something meaningful for Ukraine is if he's feeling pain. And this is causing him some pain. This is causing him to kind of rethink strategy, to worry about, again, sort of internal some dissent. So it's a fascinating time.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6805.253

Now, when Trump has said that he can solve this quick. In the first day.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6809.016

Yeah. First day in office.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6810.878

How is that possible?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6812.359

I don't think it is. I mean, look, he speaks in hyperbole, right? So he's just doing that again. He's just like, I'm going to solve this problem. But that's a self-inflicted wound because then it gives the Democrats a chance to say, well, he's just talking crazy. Also, if he gets into office and he doesn't solve it in a day, then it's more of a problem. Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6830.434

I mean, maybe it takes him two days, in which case he'll be criticized. Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6834.676

He really would be. Yeah. A full 24 hours after he promised. Yeah. Once again, he lied. Do you think it's possible to resolve? Like, what would be the ideal resolution?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6847.96

Well, I think it is possible to resolve it as long as, again, as long as Putin feels like he needs to find a settlement. If he was making headway – look, don't get me wrong. they've had some successes in the eastern side of Ukraine, where they've been making an offensive against the Ukrainian military.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6867.517

So while the Ukrainian military has been advancing and having some success taking and holding some territory inside Russia, at the same time, they've been having some real difficulties in the Donetsk region and on the eastern side of Ukraine. And But if Putin feels sufficient pain, then, yeah, he'll they'll find a settlement.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6889.506

I think that settlement is going to look frustratingly like what the lines looked like before this whole conflict started. They're not going to give up. Russia is not going to give up Crimea. They're not going to pull all their military, all their their their personnel out of the eastern side of Ukraine. Right.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

689.006

And he was working as a school teacher, as you pointed out. He was working as a coach. Who knows? He could be a great guy. I'm just saying that there were statistics that said upwards of 70-plus percent of people have padded their CVs. So what he's done isn't unusual, but – It's very much, you know, highlighted now.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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And so I think at the end of the day – and this will probably frustrate a lot of people who have been putting Ukrainian flags on their Twitter handles and waving flags and saying we stand with Ukraine. It's not going to look like Ukraine gets all its territory back. It's not realistic. So I think that's what the settlement is going to look like. But look –

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6938.809

I look at this from there's a lot of people out there, right? Rightly so. There's a lot of people who dissent with the whole idea of why are we helping Ukraine? I'm not going to wander into that minefield. I'm just looking at it from an operational perspective. If the U.S. wasn't helping Ukraine. Putin would own Ukraine by now, for sure. There's just no two ways about it.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

6960.78

Even with NATO support, NATO's been very good, EU's been very good. Without U.S. support, Putin would have Ukraine. So some people could care less about that. OK, it's based on your experiences. Other people think that's a horrible thing. And so I don't know. I'm just saying operationally, you know, if you look at it, you go, OK, our decision is we can't afford to lose Ukraine to Putin.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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So therefore, we're going to dump a lot of resource and assistance in there. You know, so, you know, Bob's your uncle. I personally don't think, you know, Putin's the sort of person who stops when he gets something. Right. His next thought is, OK, now what? Because he's been very clear, just like the Iranians are clear about wanting to destroy Israel.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7005.25

Putin's been talking for years about trying to rebuild the Soviet Union in some fashion. Right. Not the whole thing. So I take him at his word. I think he's pretty serious about it. But I also get the point why people say, well, holy fuck, why are we spending all this money on Ukraine? You know, that's why I'm not running for president.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7024.56

Yeah, I mean, it is a lot of fucking money. It's a lot of fucking money. And we have to pay that money. That money is not... I mean, just printing money, it has consequences. It's not that simple.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7035.103

You know what I love, though, is I do love Democrats now. I've heard some Democrats say, well, actually, look, this is a good thing. And these are Democrats saying, this is a good thing because... That money, well, in reality, the things that we're providing Ukraine are manufactured by U.S. companies. So they're making money, and that's a good thing for the economy.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7053.093

Yeah, that's what Eisenhower warned you about, stupid. Exactly. What the fuck are you talking about? I do love that argument, though. Well, that's a new tact to take for the Democrats, is to argue on behalf of the military-industrial complex.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7066.264

Exactly. It's such a strange way of rationalizing things when the left has always been anti-war. I mean, that's where things got real weird. The left has always been pro-free speech and anti-war.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

707.893

It's 70 percent.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7077.132

And they're essentially the party that's trying to silence people under the guise of misinformation and disinformation, which a lot of that shit turned out to not be misinformation and not be disinformation. Right. Especially the COVID stuff with Jay Bhattacharya and all the different, Martin Koldoff, all these different people that got removed from Twitter and censored.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

709.014

Yeah. Yeah. It's a it's a look. I've got a I've got a service line in the company, Portman Square Group. I am a marketing machine. Thank you. And but we have a due diligence group that does nothing but right. Background investigations, due diligence. And so they spend a lot of time looking at people's CVs or resumes. And. It's a shocking number of people. And sometimes it's not really nefarious.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7096.968

Alex Berenson, who's in a lawsuit right now with the Biden administration. You know, all those people without Elon Musk buying Twitter, they would essentially have been silenced. So all these dissenting opinions were legitimate people from Stanford and Harvard and all these people were labeled as kooks. Which is just goddamn crazy and very fucking dangerous. Very fucking dangerous.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7120.183

You're allowing corporations to dictate what is true and not true depending upon how it's going to reflect their bottom line.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7127.189

Yeah. And that's scary. I think people hate having this pointed out. I mean people of a certain persuasion. When you say things like, you know what, a lot of the things that people on the opposite side from where the progressives and the left sit – They turn out to be right, whether it's Hunter Biden's laptop, whether it's the bullshit of the Russian dossier, whether it's issues related to COVID.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7151.33

And the idea that people aren't able to speak their mind and that somehow the Democrats have decided that they're OK with censorship because really the government needs to tell you what's safe to hear. It's like the Democrats supporting the war and the Republicans questioning whether it's a good idea. Topsy-turvy. Yeah, it's bass-ackwards. It's an upside-down world. It's an upside-down world.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7176.589

That's what I'm trying to say.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7178.11

Very strange. It's just strange to see how people just immediately abandon all their principles and side with whatever their party's saying. That's when you realize that it really is just a tribal thing.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7189.715

Because the left silencing free speech and the left not recognizing that they were lied to by these corporations because they had originally sided with them and they had made these statements and they don't want to walk these statements back and it's too difficult to say that you were wrong. And then the pro-war stuff. It's just the whole thing is – and the fact that –

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7209.893

You didn't have better use for that $175 billion? You don't think they could have done it to help up? What about our infrastructure? What about our inner cities? That money couldn't have been invested in the United States?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7221.242

Yeah. You want better policing? Invest in better training and hiring, right? More consistent training.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7226.546

Subsidies for manufacturing, incentives to have manufacturing. That's something we really should have learned during COVID. Like, oh my God, we're so dependent upon other countries for our goods. For pharmaceuticals? Yes, all that stuff. Yeah, yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7240.055

Yes, it's fucking super difficult to get during COVID. Well, and it's still difficult to get. There's still shortages of, I was reading about, what's it called? Adderall. Adderall shortage, yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7249.477

Well, I think I know why there's an Adderall shortage. I think some people are taking it that really don't need it. Is that like Ozempic? They're just, yeah. Well, Zempic at least is helping people that are super fat lose weight, which is really important. We have a gigantic health crisis in this country.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7265.705

We're eating poisoned food and too much of it, and people are – I mean, the obesity crisis in this country is unparalleled. There's never been a time in this country where half the people were technically obese. And I'm not talking about the body mass index thing either, which is like I'm obese according to that. Are you? Yeah. I'm 5'8", not even 5'8". I'm under 5'8", and I weigh 202 pounds.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7288.662

I'm fat. I used to be 5'8". I'm shrinking. You're shrinking? Yeah. Like disc degeneration, which is what happens to old people. They get smaller and smaller. And I want to deny that I'm older, but God damn it, I'm fucking shrinking. And my back hurts. And one of the reasons why my back hurts, it's like years of jiu-jitsu too, weightlifting, but your discs get smaller.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7308.137

They get smushed, and your spinal column gets closer and closer together. There was a race car driver, and he was one of the guys that did Le Mans back in the day, and they got him in his original race car to take a lap around Le Mans, and he couldn't fit the pedals anymore because he had shrunk four inches since the time that he had... Because everybody just...

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#2197 - Mike Baker

732.51

It's just, okay, maybe I misspoke or maybe I did put something in and I over-egged the pudding a little bit. But then like 10 or 15 years down the road, you've kind of ridden on that for all that time. And we've seen that happen where people suddenly get called out, right? Yes. You know, I don't read too much into the fact that he padded his resume.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7329.011

shrivels up. It's gravity wins.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7331.972

It's aging. It all happens. Gravity wins. Yeah, one of my brothers flew jets in Vietnam and that fucked up his back. His discs. Good God, the G-forces and all that.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7341.253

Oh yeah, I couldn't imagine. But the point is, we have a massive health crisis in this country. The obesity crisis is really legitimate and it's terrifying that it's so prevalent and that no one's doing anything about it. And this is one of the things that RFK wants to do when he gets into office.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7358.476

And he's talking about seed oils and he's talking about a lot of different things that are like terrible for health or ubiquitous in our diet. And to put some regulations on that stuff and to recognize that these are real issues and to inform people that these are real issues and not just let these big food companies just keep. I saw a fucking article today in Time magazine.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7379.384

Wait a minute, Time Magazine is still out there? Time Magazine is still out there. See if you can find this cover, this article. It was, are super processed foods really bad for you? Oh, fuck. Seriously. This is the question. Instead of saying, wouldn't it be better to eat healthy, which everybody would agree, are super processed foods really that bad for you?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7408.413

Well, I can help you out there real quick. Yes. No?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7415.019

It says why they are.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7416.04

No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. That's not what I saw. That is not what I saw. I saw something very different than that, and I can find it. I'll find it in two seconds. Hold on. Give me a second because I know I saved it because I was like, what the fuck? Are ultra-processed foods bad for us? Hold on.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7435.7

Here's one that says, what if they aren't as bad as you think?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7439.205

Here it is. From yesterday. Aren't as bad as you think. Oh, what if ultra-processed food aren't as bad as you think. That's it. Well, they're not. They're a lot worse. They're fucking terrible for you. What kind of bullshit argument is this? This is real.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7454.415

They are really bad for you. Jessica is passionate about the pupusas from Costco.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7458.697

Oh, God, Jessica. How about have a banana? Get on the treadmill, you fucking idiot. Like, what are we talking about? I got a bag of pupusas. We're eating shit that's terrible, that's really bad for you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

7471.043

That's sort of what the next thing says, I guess.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

7474.994

Okay. It all started in the summer of 2023 when author and infectious disease physician Dr. Chris Von Tuleken was promoting his book Ultra Processed People. While writing it, Von Tuleken spent a month eating mostly foods like chips, soda, bagged bread, frozen food, and cereal. What happened to me is exactly what the research says would happen to everyone.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7495.04

Von Tuliken says he felt worse, he gained weight, his hormone levels went crazy, and before and after MRI scans showed signs of changes in his brain. As Von Tuliken saw it, the experiment highlighted the terrible emergency of society's love affair with ultra-processed foods. Okay, but you have to, this next part is really, is also really, Wilson.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

7514.434

Who specializes in working with clients from marginalized groups. Oh, marginalized groups. Was irked. She felt that Van Tuleken's experiment was over-sensationalized and that news coverage of it shamed people who regularly eat processed foods.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7530.461

That's what you get. That kind of fucking language drives me goddamn crazy. In other words, the vast majority of Americans, particularly the millions who are food insecure or have limited access to fresh food, they also tend to be lower income and people of color. Yeah, they fucking covered the whole spectrum.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7549.211

Wilson felt the buzz ignored this food apartheid.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

755.951

I think it is just very disrespectful that he didn't push back on the idea that he was overseas deployed in combat or that he claimed that he retired in a position. I mean, I think they gave him a master sergeant title or rank when he retired, which is just one step below. Which is still honorable. Very honorable.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7552.152

Food apartheid.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7553.193

Oh, God.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

7553.653

Fucking crazy. as well as the massive diversity of foods that can be considered ultra-processed, a category that includes everything from vegan meat replacements, which, by the way, are really fucking bad for you, and non-dairy milks, which, by the way, are really fucking bad for you, to potato chips and candy, which, by the way... Really fucking bad for you.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7573.935

How can this entire category of foods be something we're supposed to avoid? Because it's not fucking food. It's not nutritious food. And if you eat non-nutritious food, you get fucking sick. Imagine linking that to racism and inequality.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7588.483

It also said she got 80% of her calories from processed foods. Yeah, I'd like to see what that lady looks like naked. Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7595.587

It was an experiment.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7596.648

Oh, it was an experiment. Okay.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7598.828

Okay. Just an experiment for 40 years.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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I'm still running with data.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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I'm experimenting with cheeseburgers today. God. And I'm going to have an experimental Coke. It marginalizes and shames people. Marginalizing, that kind of fucking language is so divisive.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7615.495

I will say there's obviously a problem with, what do they call them, food deserts, right? Yes, absolutely. The inability of communities to access fresh foods, there's no doubt about it. If you want to eat healthy, it can cost more.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7628.008

Right, but the solution is not to not tell people those foods are bad. The solution is to try to figure out maybe some of that $175 billion could have helped. You know how many free meals they could have given people, free healthy meals with $175 billion? If you really cared, the problem with this is a real problem. Those foods are delicious. Oh, they are delicious.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7652.32

Cool Ranch Doritos and a nice cold Coca-Cola on ice. McDonald's sausage McGriddle. Oh, my goodness. Now you're talking my language. Those fucking McGriddles are delicious. It's a dessert with sausage in it.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7666.365

I'm going to tell you a quick story. I won't bore you with this one. Well, I will probably bore you with this one. I was in the airport in DFW, Dallas-Fort Worth Airport. I was transiting through the airport with my wife. And thank God she was there. And we're kind of running to get to the flight to go to Puerto Rico. I was going to give a speech there. And...

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7689.306

We hadn't had anything to eat all morning, and so we passed by a McDonald's, and I go, God damn it, I'm just going to stop, and I'll just get a quick thing. So I got a sausage McGriddle, and I take a bite of it as we're kind of dashing towards the next flight, and I took a bite, and I thought, Oh, no, no. It tastes too good.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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I can't eat this whole thing because I have this mentality that I'm going to have to throw this away because it's so damn good. I'm going to want one every day. And so I literally tossed the rest of it in there. That was the last thing I'd eaten. I got on the plane, had the Widowmaker, massive heart attack, went out. They had to get the plane off the tarmac. Oh, that was when that happened?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7727.532

Yeah, that was when that happened. The last thing I had eaten was a bite of that fucking McGriddle. If you ate the whole thing, you would have survived. If I ate the whole thing, I probably would have been okay. I couldn't believe it. So I haven't had anything like that ever since. God, they're so good, though. I remember it. Still to this day, I remember it.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

774.1

And it's nothing to be shameful of. Saying that, just stating the actual rank... It doesn't change anybody's opinion of him at all. So it's a lie that doesn't really elevate you.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7745.783

McGriddles are fucking delicious. Crazy. They're so good. If I'm just going to have a cheat meal of a breakfast food, I'm going McGriddle all the way. They nailed it. I know it's bad for you. I'm not saying you should eat it, but God damn, it's good. They knocked that one right out of the fucking park. There's something about the cheese with the sausage. The syrup in the muffin thing.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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In the muffin thing. God damn it. I know.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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It's a beautiful invention.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7770.538

Someone online took the McGriddles and went to Chick-fil-A and got a chicken breast and put it in the middle. It made like an almost chicken and waffle sandwich. Oh, my God. That must be incredible. It sounds really good. What a great idea. I'm going to make a note of that.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7782.846

What a great idea. Chick-fil-A is so good that even gays buy it. They know that the Chick-fil-A people don't like the gays, and they're like, I don't give a fuck. Give me that Chick-fil-A. I would like to know how many of the gays avoid Chick-fil-A. I bet it's like a very small percentage. They're like, fuck these people. They make a hell of a chicken sandwich. God damn it.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7808.022

I should be more upset than I am. It's too good. It's too good. Where are we going to go? They're so good, they close on Sundays, and no one gives a fuck. Yeah. No, they don't. They're like, we don't even want that Sunday money, which would be... billions of dollars. They pass on billions of dollars of profit.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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One-seventh of a potential revenue stream for the week.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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And one of the most successful fast food chains in the country. And they're like, nope, we like Jesus more than we like money. And the gays are saying, we're not really into the gays.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7836.179

We like Chick-fil-A more than we care about.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7838.701

I went into a Chick-fil-A the other day and the fella that was serving me, I have a feeling that fella might have been a part of the alphabet posse. Really? Yep. And he's working at the Chick-fil-A. So maybe he doesn't care.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7852.15

Or he's an asset, right? They put him in there. He's an intelligence asset.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7856.632

Or maybe. That could be. Or maybe he's like Uncle Tom. You know, that kind of a deal.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7862.376

They probably don't use that term.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7865.077

It'll be Uncle Bruce.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7865.958

Remember Bruce used to be a name for gay guys? It's not really anymore. It's not. It wasn't in Australia because everybody's a Bruce or a Sheila. So you couldn't do that. But you know what else? Well, never mind.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7879.794

I was about to start talking about words you can't say. I got in trouble with my kids because I was driving down the road and I said something and the oldest boy was like, Dad, I don't think we can say that anymore. And I said, really?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

788.225

It doesn't, and when you get called out on it, it just kind of makes you look like a dipshit, right? And that's something that he's got to deal with now.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7892.966

And then I found myself like George Carlin driving in the truck with all three of the boys just reeling off words. And they were horrified.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7902.298

Because they've grown up now in this environment. Right.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7905.039

This woke environment.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7905.72

We didn't have that shit. I'll tell you what.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7907.581

They don't have that in Texas. High school kids are the most unwoke kids I've ever been around in my fucking life. It's crazy listening to these kids talk. They're saying wild shit because it's a rebellion.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7922.628

So they're like little punk rockers. It's also crazy to hear them talk because they've invented a whole new fucking language. Oh, yeah. Like skibbity. Oh, yeah, skibbity. What the hell is skibbity? Exactly. What is... Do you know? I don't know. I don't know.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7935.442

Also, Sigma. Sigma?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7937.204

Yeah, I've heard that.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7937.905

They say Sigma, which apparently is cool, I think.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7940.007

Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7941.769

It's confusing? You're so Sigma?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7943.97

Yeah, I think Sigma is good. I think it's good? Yeah, I'm confused over what Skibity is. But there's, I just, there's a whole language. Giat? I like, yeah, Giat.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7952.476

I like sus. I like they say sus.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7954.917

Yeah, that seems like, oh, here we go.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7956.358

Do you understand the meaning of Skibity? Skibity is a term relating to restlessness, paranoia, and inescapable dread. Oh. What? I don't think they're using it the right way. That doesn't sound right. I think they're, oh, it could also mean good or best. Okay.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

796.848

But he did once say, he was talking about assault rifles, air quotes, assault rifles for the gun nuts out there. I get it. I'm on your side. But he said... But when he was talking... I mean, you can kind of assault somebody with a BB gun, right? Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7969.167

I've heard Skibbity Toilet come out of a couple of my kids. Oh, boy.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7973.251

The best shit? They took a Skibbity Toilet?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7975.032

What the hell is Skibbity Toilet? Oh, yeah. What does that mean?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7976.794

Page not found. Too hard. The government, they're censoring the Skibbity information.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7982.138

This is not good. Skibbity, Ohio. Rizzler. Rizzler. Rizz. I know about this. What's that? Rizz is when you got games. When you're a player. Charisma. When you're a player. Charisma. That's right.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7991.687

Slang for charisma. And a Rizzler has a lot of charisma. Oh, I want to be a Rizzler.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7995.15

Wow.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7995.31

There's a kid. That's his name. Oh, wait.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7997.432

The Rizzler.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

7997.913

The little kid. The little kid.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8000.696

He's always doing like this. He's always kind of like looking at the camera, going like that. Yeah. I like that. My kids have pointed that out to me. I like some of that. There he is. Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8008.303

Look at that fella.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8009.003

And his buddy, Justice, I think is his buddy's name. Unstoppable Defense Alignment. Look at him. Look at him.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8014.106

I like he's got the pose.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8015.367

He's got the wrist, right.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8016.487

He's a little concerned. I'm quite concerned.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8018.989

He looks like a Jersey mob boss in a way.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8021.01

Like a son of a Jersey mob boss.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8022.53

Yeah, yeah. Like John Gotti V. Yeah, so they... Yeah, but going back to that fucking thing about processed foods, that sort of shit is what I hate because you're absolutely right. Rather than try to help people by talking the truth... God forbid, right? We say, well, we've got to protect them. We don't want to shame them. We don't want to marginalize them.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8045.102

So instead of talking and saying, look, we know that you have, you know, that it costs more or whatever, but here's the honest to God's truth about it. These foods are, you know, it's a slow walk to death, right? Right. And so, yeah, but, you know, I think there's... What's her name? She's going to be doing an interview tomorrow night. Dana Bash? Kamala Harris? Kamala Harris.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8075.402

You got a Biden moment. See, that's why I can't criticize Biden. You need creatine. I do need creatine. But anyway, so she talks about these price controls on food as if somehow that magically is going to sort problems out. It will just make this whole issue of access to food worse. It just fucks things up in terms of the supply chain.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8099.56

And so that's why, I mean, she's not doing it, but her team is already walking this back, an idea that she had just thrown out at the DNC. She's like, we're going to do this. And the other bullshit, all these other ideas, but $25,000 for first-time homebuyers.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8112.847

What are they doing in California? Have you seen this proposal to give loans to illegal immigrants? Yeah. I saw a top line headline for it.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8121.371

Are they just flat out buying votes? Like, what are you doing when you're doing that? Well, what are you doing when you cancel debt for students, right?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8129.815

But what about the citizens that want home loans?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

813.039

But when he was talking about them, he said, weapons of war that I carried... I don't know the exact quote, but he was essentially alluding to the fact that... Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8132.456

Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8132.816

Like, how are you giving, you're incentivizing people to be illegal aliens is what you're doing. 100% full stop. If you allow that, you're incentivizing people to become illegal aliens.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8142.458

Well, you're also incentivizing people to raise the price of their home. You tell me that we've got a program now to give $25,000 to first-time homebuyers. Now, suddenly, my $300,000 house is $325,000. Thank you very much. Exactly.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8153.62

It's a nonsense proposal. Yeah, it's all these things. They're saying it just to win the election. And that's what it is. And that's why they're walking them back so quickly as soon as people push back against it. There's a wild thrashing going on right now publicly. And it's so fascinating to watch, like them just trying to lick their finger and find out which way the wind's blowing.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8175.31

Which is what they're doing. They're throwing ideas against the wall. Normally you would do that behind closed doors and come up with a platform with all your policies. You still go to their website. They still don't have their platform with all their policies and what we're going to do for major issues of the day. So instead, they're just throwing this shit on the wall in public.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8194.204

And if the public likes it, then they stick with it. If they don't, like with the price controls or the EV idea, then they back it off, right, in full view as if we're just supposed to go with it. And a lot of people do.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8209.133

And a lot of people do. The blind allegiance towards your party is so real, particularly from the Democrat side. It's so fucking real. At least Republicans have a thing called a rhino, right? Republican in name only. Yeah. So at least they're suspicious of people that aren't like they seem to think that there's some infiltrators into the organization.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8228.763

They're not entirely on board with everything that all the Republicans agree with. And they'll have some infighting about that.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8234.206

Well, we've got all sorts of categories now. We've got the never Trumpers, right? We've got them. Outfits like the Lincoln Project, which as far as I can tell is just a grift, right? These guys have just figured out that there's cash to be made by lining up with the Democrats, right? And we can get all sorts of donations by saying, look, we're former Republicans and we'd never want Trump, right?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

825.949

And again, was it was is it I don't understand it. Is it necessary? No. Did he feel that it helped in his early days running for political office? Obviously. Right.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8256.279

There's money in those hills, right? You can mine that for a while and they've managed to.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8260.421

Especially politicians.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8262.122

Yeah, yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8262.884

Which are not exactly the most... I mean, there's some fucking shenanigans going on there, I don't have to tell you. It's like, these aren't the people that are like... It's that speculation again.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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...the most character-driven statements. Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8277.602

They're not like... Oh, God. But you can't... I guess I get cynical because I don't see how it changes. I look around and I think, well, how do we... How does it get any better, I guess, is the question, right? And it's certainly not going to get better in the next short-term cycle, right? And I maybe... Maybe if – well, I don't know. I don't know how you get people out of the trenches right now.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8303.581

It's like World War I and get them to kind of stand up and at least make a little bit of move towards each other and say, okay, we got to figure this shit out. We got a lot of serious problems. There's more crises overseas right now than we've had in a very long time. Shit that could really, really – get fucked up pretty quick, right?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8323.339

Whether it's what's going on in Russia and something happens, and next thing you know, Putin decides, ah, fuck it, you guys are lobbing U.S. missiles deeper into Russia. I think it's time for us to deploy something. And whether it's that or whether it's Xi Jinping deciding, screw it. Time to go into Taiwan. Time to go into Taiwan. We don't even know who's running the White House.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8345.408

So let's give it a go. I don't know. And you've got the Middle East, which I think people always assume, well, that's a self-contained problem. It's just there. But... The chance for that to go sideways, you know, right now. Right.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8360.704

I mean, if if they're successful and, you know, encircling Israel by meaning that, you know, they dump enough weapons into the West Bank and they get some of their militant elements there to say suddenly you got a three front war with Israel. At some point, there's going to be some really undue pressure on any U.S. administration to step in. That shit gets ugly.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

837.397

Well, he's also seen Joe Biden get away with it. Right. Joe Biden has gotten away with lying about his record, lying about his accomplishments from the beginning back when he was running for Senate. Right. I mean, I'm sure you've seen that old video where he confronts the guy and tells him he's got a higher IQ than him and how he graduated at the top of his class.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8383.129

We've got thousands of people crossing the border who probably have really bad, nefarious intent that we don't even know who they are. Millions, but I'm just saying, in terms of actual people who may be on the terror watch list, you've got a lot of people who have come across. The vetting that goes on on the southern border is minimal at best. They don't have access to international databases.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

84.726

Just having Marshall around can make my day ten times better. I'm sure you love your dog just as much, and you want to do your best to help them live longer, healthier, happier lives. And a healthy life for your dog starts with healthy food, just like it does for us. There's a reason having a balanced diet is so important.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8403.047

It's not like they're getting people crossing in from China or crossing in from Turkey or Pakistan. I'm not picking on any particular country, but pick a spot and work with those home country liaison personnel to say, what do you got on these people? They simply are checking to see whether they're listed in the U.S. criminal database. And if they're not, it's like, fine, here's your appointment.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8425.539

We'll see you in court in a year and a half or whatever. You're free to go.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8429.241

It's not even a year and a half. It's like five years.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8431.202

Five years, yeah. It's really sad. There's tens of thousands of kids they can't account for. And again, the White House or the Harris team wants to act as if she had nothing to do with anything.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8448.455

She was the border czar. Remember when they were trying to say that she wasn't the border czar?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8451.617

Yeah. The same people who called her the borders are on TV.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8455.758

But this is what's so crazy is that they don't know that they said that. Do they not know that people are going to find it and they're going to post it? Do they think that somehow or another those videos are hidden from the public? I think, again, they don't care, right?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8468.723

They don't care. They understand, I think, that most Americans have a very short attention span. Right. We live in a world where you can ride out just about any storm, right? I mean, and redemption is just around the corner, right? I mean, you know, look, what's his name? Jeffrey Toobin whacks off on, you know, a Zoom call. It wasn't that long ago, really, in the scheme of things.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8491.609

He was off TV for like a year. Yeah, now he's back. Now he's back. You know, so, you know, that gives hope to all those people out there who can't control themselves.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8502.691

God, that was a weird, you know. I suspect he's not the only one, right? Oh, they dropped like flies.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8509.055

It was a big problem. That's the problem with, like, working from home. You got a camera on a guy with a computer in a locked office.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8518.402

Yeah. Yeah. But, I mean, I've never been on a Zoom call where I felt like that was, you know, you're not like, well.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8524.149

Well, it makes you wonder, like, what kind of control do you have over your life if you have to whack off so bad that you do it in the middle of the day while you're on a call? On a call. You don't even wait until the call ends.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8537.207

All right, now, Bob's going to run through the second quarter numbers. Oh, fuck you.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8542.431

Second quarter fucking numbers.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8544.552

What is in your mind, you fucking psychopath?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8547.794

Oh, God.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8548.155

It's weird. But it also just shows you that these people that are holding themselves up to be these moral authorities, no, you're just a fucking pervert. You're just another nut. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Another nut who's putting on a mask when you get on television and pretending you're something great.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8564.369

Yeah. So I think that's what it is. I think there's this sense that it doesn't matter, right? You can say anything. You can get away with it because people aren't going to really care at the end of the day. Right.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8576.676

And, you know, so while common sense would make you think, well, I'm sure actually they'll be, you know, they'll be fact-checking themselves and they'll be thinking about these things and they'll be more reflective and more analytical. That's just, that's all bullshit. It doesn't actually work that way. Yeah, it's all bullshit. Yeah, yeah. It's all bullshit. But I think that there will be

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#2197 - Mike Baker

858.969

All lies. Yeah. No, absolutely. And you're right. He's gotten away with it. Just like, you know, apparently the plagiarism and other issues and certainly now the mental decline. He's still president, I guess. I guess. He's kind of not.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8596.309

I think – I don't know. I'm just thinking about the aftermath of the election.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8603.275

Well, I'm scared. What I'm scared is that people will become accustomed to the fact that the president is not in control of the government anymore and that that's OK. That's a scary thing, too, because whether you like Biden or don't like Biden, like Trump or don't like Trump, at least you attributed the commander in chief. You were like, that's the guy. That's the president.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8622.571

And now it's like, well, if he's not the president, because he keeps going on vacation now. He's not even talking anymore. He's probably disgruntled. And we got a bunch of months to go, kids. We're sitting here talking in August. We got whole of September, whole of October. End of November with no president.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8641.464

Yeah. And again, you know, I guarantee there won't be that question tomorrow night with one of the two potential successors to be the leader of the free world, supposedly. That question won't exist. It won't be, well, who, tell me about the decision-making process. If the president some time ago said that, or the White House said that he's really good from 10 to 4, you know, 10 a.m. to 4 p.m.,

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8667.609

And things don't get better over time. They get worse. How is he doing now? And if that's the case, what's the decision-making process like at the White House? And what kind of role are you playing in it? And by the way, can we ask one more time, when did you know that he was in decline? And were you just telling the American public the complete opposite? He's not fucking Sharper's attack.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

869.772

He's kind of quit.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8690.624

So when did you know that? And what was the decision process around that in terms of deceiving the American public?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8696.328

How did they go with him even back in 2020? How did they do that? How did they not see what everybody saw? How was that the best option to win?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

870.853

Who is in charge? That's the question I think a lot of people are wondering. Well, Kamala's on tour, so she can't be doing, she's out there doing concerts. Oh, she's going to do an interview tomorrow night. With Tim, though. With Tim. With Tim, because she's a strong woman, so she wants a strong man by her side.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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It wasn't as bad, to be fair. It was not as bad. It was not as bad. But it was bad. Well, you could kind of predict it, right? Oh, I predicted it. Yeah. Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Side comment.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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I was like, come on, man. He's not going to get better. He's not as good as he used to be.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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When he was vice president, he was way better. Yeah. Not as good as I once was. Yeah. Not as good once as I ever was. Thank you, Toby Keith. Yeah, I think he was the safe bet, right? They certainly weren't going to go with Sanders. They already kicked him out once four years before.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Yeah, they weren't going to go with Sanders. But there's a lot of other people that could have stepped up. There's a lot of governors who could have. I mean, Bill Clinton kind of came out of nowhere.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8750.069

Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, Bill Clinton. Yeah, that's true. That's true. It was it. But it was I would also argue it was even that most that recent time it was a different time. Right.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Not only that, but I think Clinton probably wouldn't have won if it wasn't for Ross Perot. I think Ross Perot, a lot of people who were more conservative, right leaning, went with Ross Perot. And afterwards, they changed the whole criteria for being involved in the debates. Because they're like, we can't have this happen again.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Right. So they shift that game. Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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The whole Commission for Presidential Debate shifted, which is, by the way, a privately funded thing. Yeah. Which is crazy, too.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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I think there's also this upcoming debate. Look, one of the things that Trump should be very thankful for is the rules that they established for that first debate with Biden. The only debate with Biden where they said, OK, we're going to cut the microphones off. You're not allowed to speak. That worked like a charm. Right. It did. Kept him in check.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8806.494

Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8807.034

And so I'm not sure whether that's the case for the 10th September debate with with Harris. But it does look like now her campaign team is arguing that she should be able to have notes. Right. And they didn't have notes previously. Right. They were just like, she needs notes. So I think they're pushing for that now. That's, you know.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8826.041

Let me tell you something as a comedian. Notes are not good. Here's the problem with notes. You know you have those notes. So you're thinking about those notes while you're talking. And you go to those notes. You can write notes while you're debating. Like they gave him a pad. You're allowed to write things, but it's a blank pad. Right.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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But if you have those notes, you're going to be looking for them, and that's an added distraction. You've got to be so dialed in that you don't need those fucking notes, especially on television, because the pressure is clearly something that gets to her. Yeah, then that laugh comes out.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Yeah, she does not want to be alone out there. Which is wild. You have to be alone. Who the fuck has ever done an interview, the only interview since they have been nominated by their party, right? Since they've been chosen. Who has ever not done an interview for this long?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Yeah, well, it doesn't come out in debate, but she's much better at talking if you don't have pressure and lights on her. I know people that know her that say she's intelligent.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Okay.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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So it could be that she locks up when she has to talk, which is a real thing. People, they freak out with also. Imagine the kind of criticism that lady experiences on a daily basis. If she just reads comments on Twitter, her fucking head would spin, right? So all day long, she knows how many people hate her, how many people think she's an income poop, how many people think she's terrible.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8894.519

You could say the same thing for Trump, though. 100%, but it obviously doesn't affect him. It doesn't affect him, that's true. He's used to being famous. Fair enough, yeah. He's been famous his whole life.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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So for him, he's like, just fucking water off a duck's back.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8903.888

But she's been in the limelight for a long time. Yeah, but she ain't good at it. She ain't good at it.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8907.691

Some people are not good. There's a lot of people that are famous forever, and the anxiety accentuates over time. It heightens. It gets worse. Because now the pressure of all these people hating them actually starts to freak them out.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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You know, it sounds like you're going to vote for her.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8922.28

Is that what it sounds like?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8923.12

That's what MSNBC did.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8924.261

You know what MSNBC did? Do you know that? They took a clip of me talking well about Tulsi Gabbard, and they tried to attribute it to Kamala Harris. They edited it, and they posted it on their TikTok. Holy shit. Yeah. Oh, and then my stepdad called me up because he texted me that he was glad that I was suing MSNBC because there's this article that I'm suing them. I was like, I'm not suing them.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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But they did do that.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8950.347

They did do that. I saw that part that people were losing their minds because they said you had endorsed RFK Jr.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8955.59

Yeah. I like him. Yeah. That's all I said. I said he speaks reasonably and he talks about the issues. He doesn't attack people. I think we could all use more of that in this world. That's all I fucking said.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8963.493

Shocking statement.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8964.733

Yeah. And they're like, he's endorsing.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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He's endorsing. See, they want you to have a side. Yeah, exactly. And again, going back to what you said, it's tribal. Yeah. But OK, well, you know what? Hey, I'm glad to hear that people that know her are saying she's intelligent because one of them is going to win.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

8981.323

And so for the good of the country, she's got to have some intelligence to have climbed the ladder the way she climbed the ladder. Like at least some intelligence knowing Willie Brown's a good guy to become friends with. I mean, she's got to have, there's no way you get that far without something going on. I just think she's real bad at talking.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9003.528

Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9004.208

And especially talk, well, real good in that one speech, though. That was another thing people got mad at me, because I was talking about how great that speech was, because it was fucking great. Say it to my face, and the whole place went, yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9015.177

But if you've got a teleprompter, and you've rehearsed it, and you've got speech instructors there talking to you. Yeah. and saying, emphasize this. Try it again. Try it one more time. Of course you're going to give a great speech.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Make sure you hold. Oh, you're going to give a knockout speech. That's all people need in this day and age.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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Yeah, and then they... I get why, because they get away with it. Look, they've got a very compliant and incurious media for the most part, right? And they're just letting it go. Compliant.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9033.428

But that's not critical thinking. It's not the ability to analyze. It's not the ability to make quick decisions. It's not the ability to show leadership. And that's all of those things. And again, people will keep going the same thing every time I say this. Trump. And I'm going like, look, I'm not talking about Trump right now. I'm talking about over here. I'm talking about the other contender.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9052.838

And I don't know. And more than that, I just worry about the policies that, again, they haven't enunciated many of them, but I do worry about what they've thrown against the wall so far. Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9065.311

A lot of these socialist-leaning ideas are very disturbing. Yeah. And there's another thing that she's talked about, about equity as opposed to equality and literally talking about equal outcomes, which is fucking insane. That's insane talk. That doesn't work because you're not going to have equal effort.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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The whole reason why this country works, the whole reason why capitalism works is because of competition. That competition should be fair. But there is a reason why some people succeed more than others. And a lot of it has to do with effort. Yeah. There's a lot of luck involved, there's a lot of nepotism involved, there's a lot of shit involved, but also hard work.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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And if you want to have equality of outcome, you're going to have no incentive for people to work hard.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9110.873

You know what, to that point, my youngest boy, Muggsy, was telling me, he came home from school, this was towards the end of last year, and he was kind of chuckling to myself. So what are you laughing about? He goes, oh God, it was funny. And he talks just like this. He says, yeah, it was very funny.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9129.714

He says, we had a project in class where the teacher, I forget which subject it was, but anyway, the teacher handed out a paper, a test, And he explained, okay, here's a test. I know it's a snap test. I know you guys weren't expecting it. But I want you to do your best. And you weren't expecting it, so I'm going to take all the scores and I'm going to average them out. And that'll be how you do.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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It's more than compliant. I know. I'm trying to be nice.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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So my boy sits in the back there and just doesn't do fuck all. He got like one question answered and he was like, well, fuck it. Because he's smart enough to think... All right. You know, fine. If all we're going to do is take all the results and smush them together and everyone's going to. Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

917.079

Yeah, you're trying to be nice. Yeah, I'm trying to be nice. Complicit is a better word. Yeah. And so, and it's on CNN, and it's taped. It's not even live. Right. And it's the two of them. And- There is no way in hell. Maybe I'm going to be wrong. I hope I'm wrong. I hope it's a hard hitting interview where they ask.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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And so there were there were some people in there that were really pissed off, which was the teacher's point. Right. Right. And when they found out what had happened, because they had really tried and they'd gotten very good grades. And then there's Jack was like a two out of a 100. And he gets the same result that they did. Exactly. Look at me. So he said, no effort. I got what you got.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9193.364

But he saw it. Right. And I thought, well, I'm not sure whether I'm proud of that or not, but I think it's entertaining.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9199.767

Well, if he's not dumb and he doesn't like the class and he thought it'd be fun to just like get a good grade by doing nothing. He gamed the system. He gamed the system.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

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The system sucks. Which is how which is how this whole thing would work when you talk about, you know, equal education.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9214.062

at the end of the day... It's just nonsense talk, and it's only talk for voters. It's talk to try to get people who aren't doing well to say, well, with her, I'm going to do well.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9222.666

Yeah. Everything's going to be fine. Look what they're giving me. They're canceling my debt. Oh, they're talking about canceling my debt. They're talking about giving me a first-time home payment. They're talking about, you know, sticking it to the rich people. They're talking about price controls. They're talking about rent controls. Yeah. Good God. We start doing all that shit.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9240.375

You know, you think the economy has some issues? I mean...

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9245.038

Yeah, no one who's an economic advisor thinks that's a good idea. No one who understands the economy.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9252.486

I mean, I think that one thing that they're obviously... probably somewhat happy about, they've got to be happy about it, is that moving into the election, you know, it does look like the Fed's going to cut rates, right? And I'm sure there's going to be a lot of people on the right who are going to say, oh, of course, the Fed's doing that for political reasons, right?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9270.311

Well, it's good for the country. It's good for the country, yeah. And that's where we've gotten away to. Interest rates are fucking crazy right now.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9277.537

They're crazy. Home buying, car loans, everything. It's fucking nuts.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9282.581

And that's another problem. You talk about, you know, So the perception everybody's got, not everybody. That's not right. But right now, the perception of the economy is it it sucks. Right. It's not good. It's not good. I'm not I'm not comfortable. I'm not I'm not saving money. I'm spending more money on everything.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9302.194

And but for the past year or so, you've had the White House telling them just the opposite. Things are looking good, right? We're really doing well. And, you know, so there's this lack of credibility, right, that exists, not just from the White House or from this particular administration.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9319.644

You know, I guess a bigger point is people just don't have, you know, a lot of trust in a lot of things related to the government. They don't believe they're politicians. They don't believe they're government agencies, right? I mean, look at everybody talking about it. We've got to disband the FBI. We've got to shut down the Secret Service.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9333.307

No, the Secret Service didn't do any favors for themselves. Holy fuck.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9338.51

But yeah, the CIA, they're talking about getting rid of the IRS. Okay, and substituting it with what? Yeah, what are you going to do? Yeah, what? You're going to rebuild it from the ground up? You don't think you're going to have the same problems? Yeah. And what are you going to do with all the things that they're investigating overseas? What are you going to do?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9354.192

What are you going to do? What are you going to do with all the national security threats? We're going to tear down. We've got to shut down the CIA. Okay, so you think we live in a benevolent world. You think that, okay, of course, it's a human endeavor, so it can always stand improving. Of course. And same with all the other government agencies out there. With everything.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

937.926

I tell you what, actually, what I would love to have them ask first is, OK, vice president, I guess you have to say, Madam Vice President. How long were you aware of President Biden's mental decline? Because right up until the last minute, you were talking about how sharp his attack he was and how vigorous he was and how he was better than men half his age.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9372.398

Yeah, but this idea that you're going to tear institutions down because you're pissed off about...

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9379.68

Whatever it might be Let me ask you this when he's speaking of that Yeah, one of the things that Trump said was that he was I think was Pompeo that talked him into not releasing the Kennedy files Yeah, yeah, and he Trump said that if you saw what they showed me you wouldn't release it either. I

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9397.219

Yeah, yeah, I know. I saw all of that. And honest to God, I don't have a secret that I can reveal. But what do you think it is, though? When you hear things like that, do you get concerned? What's in there?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9413.413

I mean, to me, it sounds a little bit like, you know, National Treasure, that movie with Nicolas Cage, where, you know, the secret book that they have, and they open the book, and they read what all the presidents have told them about things. You should watch it. It's actually a very funny movie. But, yeah, what do I think it means? I don't know.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9429.465

Is Trump speaking in hyperbole, or is there some... Well, there's got to be a reason why they don't want to release it.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9436.51

Well, yeah. So what could a reasonable reason be?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9439.833

Yeah, I think part of it is... I think that there's this tendency on the government's part, once they classify anything, it's really tough to get them to back off of that. It's really tough to get them to declassify information. I would argue they should, right? At this point, nobody is still alive, right? And so you would think at this point, they'd say, eh, okay, fine.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9472.403

There can't be a sources and methods issue here, right? They can't be like, well, we're worried about if we open up this file, even if there's not like some smoking gun that said... They did it. But even if it's just on the margins, like Lee Harvey Oswald went down to Mexico. We know that because – with the Russian embassy down there.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9491.521

We know that because we had an asset who reported on it from inside the Russian embassy, whatever it may be. They're all dead. Right. There's no. So I would argue just, yeah, fucking declassify it. Let it go. So I don't know. I don't have a good explanation for it. But what if it says that the CIA killed Kennedy? If it says that and it's backed up, then that's a come to Jesus meeting for me.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9516.811

But literally, yeah. I'm going to – yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

9520.334

I'm probably going to have to rethink my position on a lot of things. Yeah. Well, I think that's what they're worried about.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9526.119

Yeah. And if that's what he's saying and that's what they're actually worried about, that would be a real problem. It would be a real problem that could undermine a lot of the national security issues that we do have. Oh, fuck yeah. Sure. Absolutely. And the power the CIA has.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9539.052

Yeah. I mean, if that was the case – but think about this. Yeah. We talked about this before. I've always felt like the MLK, like Martin Luther King's, was more unsettled. That there was just something from an intuitive point of view, from an investigator's point of view.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9554.486

And it's not investigated the same way JFK is.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

9557.269

Was not, no.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

9558.09

No, and you don't hear about it the same way you hear about JFK.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

9560.292

Right, and it was more of a... there was more of a, of a sort of a local thing, right? It was, there was, you just felt like, you know, the, there was more of a, of a element of a, I don't know, various local, um, players engaged in a local police, state police, whatever it might be.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9583.015

And, you know, and possibly federal side and all kinds of, it was just something unsettling about that whole incident. So, um, Yeah, I mean, look, any of these things would significantly undermine past where it is now. I mean, already people have distrust.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9600.028

But if it was proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the CIA killed Kennedy, that would be a giant issue.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

9607.014

It would be a giant issue. And then... Then what happens? Then what do you do? At that point, who knows? Because, look, I'll be honest with you. Of course, I'm going to say what everybody expects me to say. The agency, and I can only speak from that point of view.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9621.563

I can't talk about the Bureau or Secret Service or others, but the agency does some tremendous work in pursuit of protecting national security interests. I believe that. And I believe that most of the people that are involved are patriots. Yeah. But I will say, if that were to be proven without a doubt, because they declassified that paperwork, none of that shit's going to matter.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9643.794

All that good work. Right. All that. I don't even know where you'd go with it, right? I mean, the church, you know, they basically wanted to disband the agency at that point, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

9654.213

That was in what year was that?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9656.115

That was the 70s, yeah. And that was, you know, look, Carter put Stansfield Turner into the agency basically to try to— I would argue, dismantle it. So there was a period of time when, and also after, of course, after World War II, they just shut down OSS. It was like, yeah, we don't need it.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

966.32

What I don't understand is how people aren't marching on Washington with pitchforks and torches over the fact that this small group, her and who else? Anita Dunn, the chief of staff of the White House claim a variety of that cabal is not that big of people who had daily contact with President Biden. And they just lied to the American public for a significantly long time.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9677.549

So would that create a moment where the public's just saying, fuck this, we don't need it, we'll just maybe, we'll see. But I guarantee you, something bad would then happen. And they would say, well, we need to reconstitute it in some fashion. Let's do it.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9690.196

Especially if it's publicly known that it's not there anymore and foreign actors know this.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

9696.439

You've got to have these organizations. So that's a hypothetical that... But it's like every organization.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

9703.903

You're going to have bad apples in the organization. Like cops. I think cops are overall very important and very good. But when you have a bad cop... That bad cop, especially if it's on video, now people think of cops as only being that one bad cop.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9718.212

Right, right. Defund the police. Same.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

9720.974

And by the way, Kamala Harris.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

9722.856

Kamala Harris, yeah. She was a big part of that. You know what? This part always surprised me. Defund the police. So we don't want as many police on the streets. OK, first of all, the logic train on that one, because somehow what all the bad guys go away then. Well, there's no police, so I don't need to commit any crimes. Everything will be better.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9739.372

Or we put community people in their social workers and whatever. Instead of saying in a logical fashion, saying, OK, clearly we had some bad eggs. What we need is better police. What's that going to mean? That's going to mean more money. We need to actually fund the police. You need more training. The police need more training anyway. Look at the Secret Service. Good God.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9760.447

Those guys, in terms of their amount of actual consistent on-the-job training they get. is minimal at best. And so it's the same with the police. The first thing to always go is the training budget, right? So to me, that never made any sense. But you're right. Harris was also on the side of defund the police. I don't think she would ever bring that up again. I think that moment in time has passed.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

9785.659

Well, we've seen the disastrous results.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

9787.96

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Tim Wells, speaking of... you know, look at Minnesota, Minneapolis, right? That was kind of ground zero for defunding police.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

9797.865

But at least you put tampons in the boys' room.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

9799.867

Yes, you know, because, yeah, my God, don't get me started. That was another thing. My boys, my boys constantly, thank God for them because that's how I learned what not to say and get myself in trouble.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9811.174

Right, you got to know the temperature of the young kids today.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

9813.835

I got to say, look, is this skibbity or is this not? You know, what the fuck? Is this Sigma? What's going on here? I got the riz going. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

9824.063

Well, Mike, I don't know if we resolved anything.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

9826.345

I think we might have a couple of small issues. What's your prediction? Can I ask that? What's your prediction for the election in November? What do you think is going to happen?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9834.672

I don't know because I think there's a lot of time between now and then. And look, someone... Whether that guy was acting alone or whether or not he had help, someone tried to kill Trump at least once. There was an interview where Trump was outside talking to someone and said, I've been told we shouldn't even be out here. We shouldn't be outside. There's some issues.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

9856.537

So there's probably other threats. We know that there was an Iran assassination attempt. There was something involved in that that was stopped. I guarantee there's people that want him gone.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

9869.751

And to say now I know what's going to happen in November, things change so quickly and it's so nuts and our memory is so short and everything happens so fast and the news cycle is just flooded with new things constantly. I don't know what the fuck is going to happen.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9886.804

Look at the short window of time from – Say, let's go with the 13th of July, the rally when it was shot through the RNC, right? From the perception, I was out in Milwaukee for something else, but I was out there during the RNC. And... Everybody 100 percent was convinced we got this in the bag. Right. Short period of time later, Harris is supposedly in the lead. Yeah. You know, Biden's gone.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

9913.741

He's he's pushed off the surface there and she's in. So you're right. You know, between now and fucking anything, maybe the aliens visit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2197 - Mike Baker

992.495

They just deceived the American public. And nobody seems to give a shit. Well, it's also why was anyone believing it?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9923.029

Maybe that's the only thing that's going to save us. The aliens? Yeah. Maybe that's the only thing. I don't even know how I feel about that. The more I talk about it, the more I feel like someone's lying to me. The more people I have on that talk to me about aliens, the more I feel like there's some nonsense going on. There's a layer of nonsense in that stuff. Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9939.196

I saw that interview you did with- Lou Elizondo? Yeah, Elizondo.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9942.178

Yeah.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9942.898

Well, if what he's saying is true, pretty fucking fascinating. There really is something bigger than an oil rig that's going 500 knots underneath the ocean, and they have video of it. It'd be kind of nice if you released that. They really do have 4K video of these crafts moving at insane speeds that are very high resolution, and you could see exactly what you're looking at. That'd be nice.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9964.214

I saw his explanation for why they wouldn't was because, well, we don't want to tip off the aliens, you know, that we know about it. I'm thinking... Is that the explanation? Yeah. So like if we do, if we say that, you know, if we alert the public, then suddenly they'll know about it and they may move up their plans to attack us sooner. And my my thought was I'm pretty sure if if if they can.

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9986.283

build what they're building and move that way. They probably know what we're doing already, right?

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#2197 - Mike Baker

9991.648

Yeah, and they probably have the ability to stop anything we're trying to do. Yeah. We're talking about something that can get here from another galaxy. I have a feeling they're a little bit more advanced than us. Yeah. When you go to the Amazon jungle and you visit an uncontacted tribe, you're not really worried about arrows if you have a tank.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1013.525

Also used to be people had slaves. You can only get around by horse.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1017.487

Paint on caves and shit. Why don't you go paint on a cave? Tell me a story. Try to get it published.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

102.577

Weather's too nice. I'm too famous. Let's go meet a monster.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1021.87

Yeah, get a witch doctor to take care of your broken leg.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1023.871

I don't care how it comes out. I think real writing is anywhere, anytime, however you can get it out. I don't think there's a muse that's needed. I think it's work, man. It is work. It's labor.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1033.817

I think the muse is like... It's a concept, right? Have you ever read Pressfield's The War of Art? Yeah, of course. Great book.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1042.57

I think he's right, though, when he says you summon the muse when you sit down to work. But that's also just like an intention thing. Like you have so much time and effort put on a thing. And when you do that, your mind gets more in sync with creativity. Yeah. But if you treat it like it's a muse, it actually does work. Yeah. Like if you show up every day and like say – Click into that thing.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

105.601

Yeah. Let's go fuck some shit up. Let's do something big. Let's do something really reckless. Let's do something that's going to resonate for at least a year.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1063.482

Yeah, and pay respect to the muse. I'm sitting here and I'm ready to write and I'm a professional and I'm ready to go. And treat it like you're summoning the muse. It actually works. There actually is.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1075.988

an effect that happens i don't know if there's an actual muse but you can understand why someone would think that there's a muse because yeah but why do people chant why do people meditate why are people that that's the muse whatever the muse is it's like talking about god what's god i don't know it depends on who you're talking to yeah god is a feeling yeah it's something that that fucking thing that keeps you inspired it keeps the gasoline at a high octane

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1099.264

Well, it's something that gets you away from your ego, like with writing, something that gets you away from your ego and into your mind, into your consciousness, into your perceptions of things, your ability to express it. And it's a focus thing. And the more you focus on it, the more that muscle grows, the more you get adapted to it.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1118.51

Because your ego is worried about how people are going to perceive you. Right. And that's not right.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1124.431

Yeah. You want to look cool.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1125.672

You want to look cool.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1126.472

People are.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1126.812

I was like, fuck. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I read that book that you wrote, man. Holy shit. I had no idea. You're amazing.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

113.391

Yeah. That whole El Chapo thing was so crazy, though, because that kind of is one of the things that got him caught.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1135.935

Cocktail party in Hollywood. Some guy comes up to you and tells you you're amazing.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1139.616

You are a genius. And it's always with those eyes. You're so incredible. I had no idea, dude. Meanwhile, that guy's trying to sell you on some multi-level marketing scheme or something. There's something he's trying to tap into you with.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1149.958

I want to buy that book. I want to auction your book.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1158.008

Is it a Disney? Is it about animals talking?

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1160.909

That's the one thing I really love about living in Texas is there's no Hollywood. There's no show business. I don't have to deal with any of these people with alternative agendas.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1170.851

I want to go back to that, but we just moved to Santa Barbara. Santa Barbara's awesome. It's funny. Why does everybody fucking think that?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1179.053

It is awesome.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1179.413

Montecito. I love it out there.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1181.013

Why?

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1181.513

Because it's beautiful. Because it's beautiful. What about the people? Oh...

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1186.596

They're a little elitist. There's a lot of elitist people out there. So that's a perfect place for me.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

119.179

It was, right?

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1191.704

So I grew up in Santa Barbara. I was in Paso Robles, which is ranch country, about two hours above Santa Barbara. And then we moved to Santa Barbara when I was 11. And it was Montecito, but it was a very different Montecito. Like, yes, there were a couple of rich people. Yes, my dad was doing okay by then. He had done Marcus Welby. He did, at that time, he did Amityville Horror.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

120.441

Yeah, because they track your cell phone data. They know where you go. And if you're bringing your fucking cell phone, you're basically bringing a tracking device to go find one of the most notorious gangsters alive today.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1212.342

So he had a little bit of money, but we bought, you know, what would now be a $35 million home in Montecito.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1218.827

He bought for $600,000. Same fucking house. Right, right, right. Do you know what I mean? So it was a different Montecito. And then whatever, you know, group I grew up with. But I went to, the point is I went to jail there a lot. I just did. I just liked it. Instead of the museum, I went to jail. I was like, no, mom, I'm going to go to jail today. And then... So in L.A., Venice Beach.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1243.656

I love Venice Beach, but Venice Beach has even changed. You know, you used to know everybody and everybody kind of coexisted beautifully. And then Venice Beach changed. It got totally randomly violent. Yeah, it became very dangerous. Very dangerous. Little kids. Okay, so we moved to Malibu. We were close to Laird. I know Laird and Gabby and all that thing. But it never landed.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1265.347

So we were always talking about moving, even though we were kind of building a house and we were finalizing everything. We're always talking. We talk about Texas. My mom's from Texas. We were talking about East Coast. We were talking about Europe, all these places, but never Santa Barbara. I would never move back to Santa Barbara.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1281.453

Because by the way, honey, if we move to Santa Barbara, which you love so much and you think is so beautiful, our little girls will eventually for sure go to prison. That was in my mind.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1293.9

Because in my mind, I had built totally. Huh. Most of my friends that grew up in Montecito are dead. Really? 36 out of 50. Really? Oh, yeah. From what? Heroin epidemic, punk rock. Oh, God. Driving accidents. 36 out of 50? Out of 50. Wow. Best friend, Jason Sears, who was the lead singer of Rich Kids on LSD, RKL, which was a big punk band that influenced a bunch of people. Nirvana.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1319.768

You know, Pearl Jam, all these people.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1321.549

Rich Kids on LSD is a great name for a band.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

133.095

I mean, who was the guy with the football team back in the day? Pablo Escobar? Think about it. It's our days. This time it's Pablo Escobar. Yeah. And Sean Penn.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1347.141

You're going to put that in? Jason Sears, eat shit. Yeah. Where is it? Oh, you got to just keep looking. Yeah, it'll be there. So why was I... Oh, so eventually... When we finally said, look, we're not moving. We should be grateful. We're not grateful enough. That's the problem. We're not grateful enough. But Malibu just didn't kind of sit. And then one day I'm lying on the bed.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1370.593

What didn't you like about Malibu? I love Malibu. It's just remote. You know, like we already are remote in Paso Robles. We have a place in Paso Robles, a place where I grew up, not the ranch I grew up in. about three miles down the road, but that's remote and a remote that I love. I love remote, but I love extremes.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1387.426

I don't want to be sort of next to Santa Monica and it's 20 miles away and it takes two and a half hours to get there.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1393.309

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1393.809

You and I were talking about that. I don't want to sit in traffic for half my life.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1397.051

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1397.531

I just don't want to.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1398.572

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1398.872

I'm going to be somewhere. I want to be somewhere. So Santa Barbara represented a place where you kind of had your own piece of property, but everything was 10 minutes away. You got dance class for the girls. You got soccer. You got this. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. So that was the thing. But never was I going to go back to Santa Barbara. I finally put on Zillow Santa Barbara.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1419.98

One house came up, and that's the house that we bought. And it was Joe Walsh's old house.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1423.983

Oh, wow.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1424.583

Which is amazing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1425.424

That's incredible.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1426.305

Incredible.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1427.045

That's incredible. Which I was stoked.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1428.146

And I asked him. Anyway, I have to finish the story. I was so freaked out. About moving up to Santa Barbara. I still hadn't made the kind of transition that I contracted a mild case of Bell's palsy.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1443.031

Yeah. Like literally was stressing out. My wife was like, you got to. And I'm not a stress guy. And she was like, you got to mellow the fuck out. I'm like, yeah, but you don't know what's going to happen when we move up here. It's like it's going to be a face. So literally I'm washing my face. I'm doing this. And it just started going.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

146.471

Colton hangs out with him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1460.5

When was this?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1462.921

Four months ago.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1463.762

Okay. That's a side effect of the vaccine, too. That's one of the side effects of COVID-19 vaccines.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1468.886

And I've also heard that speech impediments. I've heard a lot of things. Kids taking vaccines and things happening.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

147.332

Spicoli. Spicoli. Because, you know what, man? Hey, who wants to come with me and find this motherfucker?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1476.152

Yeah. Yeah. That vaccine in particular. That one. The mRNA one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know quite a few people that develop Bell's palsy from them. Well, whatever you want to call it. Are you serious? Yeah, facial paralysis, yeah. I know two people specifically that develop facial, like droopy face.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1493.096

Because when my older kids were young, there were what, 17 vaccinations? And now that my younger kids are young, there's 56. 72.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1505.325

Yeah, it's a series of them, but it's ultimately 72 shots. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1509.688

It's a scary prospect, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1511.55

Well, the fucked up thing is if you talk about it, you're an anti-vaxxer and you're a conspiracy theorist. You talk about anything. But that's a big one because they've done a really good job of demonizing anyone who questions a medicine that might be correlated with a bunch of fucking serious diseases. Yeah, exactly. And for whatever reason— Profit.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1529.503

Yeah, they've just done a great job of gaslighting people. Yeah. And scaring the shit out of people by labeling anybody. Like, look what they did to Jenny McCarthy. Do you remember when Jenny McCarthy had a kid and her kid had autism and she thought that autism had possibly come from vaccines?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1544.819

And they basically ran her out of Hollywood. But why would they do that? What's the reason? What do they benefit?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

155.456

Did he go solo? I think so. I think he went solo. Well, he knew that lady who was like a reporter. You know, there was like this really hot Mexican reporter.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1550.045

Well, the thing is... During the Reagan administration, the vaccine companies, pharmaceutical drug companies that are making vaccines, they said, we are unable to make these vaccines if we're liable. Because if we're liable, there's too many lawsuits that are going to come our way because vaccines cannot be completely safe and effective just by virtue of the mechanism in which they work.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1578.815

You have an irritant. You have this virus, this dead virus. Your body sees the aluminum or whatever it is. It reacts to that in a negative way, and it finds the dead virus. It develops antibodies just by the way they work. Right. When you vaccinate an enormous amount of people, you're going to have a certain amount of people that have a negative reaction.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1598.709

If we have lawsuits for every person that has a negative reaction, we're going to go out of business. So they made them immune. They made them immune. And you know what happened? Immediately they're like, well, you need a vaccine for this. And you need to go vaccinate for that. Knowing that there was no drawback. Hepatitis B vaccines. Babies.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1614.324

Right when you're born.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1615.104

Right when you're born.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1615.705

Right when you're born.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1616.886

You know, there's also doctors that say it doesn't even really work for babies. But what you're doing is you're conditioning the parents to accept the fact that your child is going to get regularly vaccinated. My doctor, fortunately, our pediatrician wanted to put the kids on a different schedule, a slower schedule. And he didn't want them to have any vaccines until they were two.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

163.058

Oh, yeah, the Mexican girl. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1638.877

Your doctor in California?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1639.858

Yes. But it was not like a quack. It was like, I think the way to do it, I mean, yeah, there's a schedule of vaccines your kids have to get unless you have religious exemption. But let's not assault.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

164.599

Yeah, he knew her. Was he dating her? I don't know. But I think she had a thing with El Chapo. After that? No. Did Sean introduce them properly? I don't know. I think he knew her and she knew him. She knew El Chapo.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1653.069

your children with a potential poison because everybody is different. If I take a bong hit, I might end up under the table. If you take a bong hit, you actually may feel smarter and clearer. I remember Dean Potter, who was a climber and he was like, I stopped smoking pot for four months and But when I started smoking pot, I could feel the hold at 2000 feet. Oh, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1674.735

Sheer cliff, nothing underneath, no ropes. But I felt more confident. And for me, I go, if I took a bong head up there, I could be four feet up and be freaking out. Right. It's different for everybody. Because everybody has different brains. It's like psychopharmaceuticals. Let's just give them all lithium or let's give them all that. You have to experiment.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1695.401

The idea of experimenting with that shit is super scary.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1698.464

It is. It is super scary. And it's also super scary when you're not liable for any of the repercussions. Right. And you're just pushing it on people because you're a corporation, and corporations just want to make money. Their thing is just unlimited growth. They have an obligation. They're shareholders. Every quarter, they want to make more money, and they just keep ramping it up.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1720.603

I remember Seinfeld talking about that. He was like, I remember back in the 70s and comedy. You know, green rooms and all that. And we'd all be fucking with each other. And it had never had anything to do with money because nobody was really making money. Like money, money. Like tons of money. It was just about what set are you going to do? What are you trying out?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1741.372

Are you going to fail or are you not going to fail? But it was this community, again, and I think that things have grown into, not that I wanted to talk about this or that I even thought about it before, but... The money thing is a very interesting thing to me. And if you want to take it back to the book, which we can talk about later, it's like the anti-celebrity.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1758.8

It's like how do you stay grounded? How do you stay accountable? And why would you stay accountable? Because I actually give a fuck about people instead of just being in it for myself. And I think that's the difference.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1771.63

Well, I think one of the things that happens to people with money is you didn't have money when you were young. Now all of a sudden you have money and you get really scared about losing that money.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

1780.476

Yeah. You get scared it's going to go away because now you realize, oh, my God, it's so much better to not have to worry about your bills. It's so much better to have some money to buy things. Yeah, totally. And then you start thinking only about money and you start making decisions only for money. And then you go down the weird road. And it really distorts artists. It fucks a lot of people up.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

179.077

Oh, right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1800.348

Yeah. You know, you see it in a lot of bands. They start making, like, poppy songs when they used to be, like, raw and gritty when they were younger. They used to be, like, authentic. And then all of a sudden they're making, like, theme songs for films. It's, like, weird fucking romance songs. For rom-coms. Like, Aerosmith went through a bunch of that shit. Totally.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1818.098

Where, to me, as an Aerosmith, you know, lover as a kid, to see them, you know, go from, like, Dream On to, like, the shit they were doing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1826.023

And I wonder with like drug addiction and all that, I wonder if it's like if the parallel is I went back to heroin at that point because I just couldn't fucking deal. Do you know what I mean?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1836.333

I think it's when they get off heroin and they start wanting to make money. I need to make some money. I spent all my fucking money.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1842.418

But look, I wonder if there's any connection like with remember Philip Seymour Hoffman, like one of the greatest actors that ever lived. And I've known his mother since I was doing theater in Rochester, New York. It was like a 20-year-old, 21-year-old, and she would come up to me and she'd say, I think you're a fine actor. And I'd go, oh, thank you very much.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1877.427

And then Phil became this guy, 22 years of sobriety who had an inkling in the beginning and said, you know what? I don't want this to control like my thing. So I'm not going to do it. I'm going to give everything I am to acting and I'm going to try to make the best career, theater career, movie career, whatever.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

189.061

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

189.361

I really enjoyed you in colors. And then next thing you know. What's the most dangerous thing that you do now? What do you think? Dangerous? Yeah. Like we're talking about Sean going out on a limb. Do you find it necessary to go out and do things that like challenge you in a way?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1896.395

And then, you know, and I, again, I have it in the book where I see him on the street and I'm crazy and I've, I've gotten into a fight with my wife and I'm walking down Columbus Avenue and I have cords on. I have no shoes. I have no shirt on my way out of my fucking head. And I look to my left and I see Nick Nolte at a cafe and we lock eyes and I've never met Nick Nolte.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1918.283

I've never seen him and it will happen that I actually will have a relationship with him later on. but we lock eyes and the moment is he's seeing in me what he used to be or seeing in me what I'm to become. I'm seeing in him what I'm to become later, right? Then I see Philip Seymour Hoffman who's standing there talking. I go, hey, Phil, it's Josh. You're doing so well, man. Fuck.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1945.356

Good for you, dude. No shirt. No shirt.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1949.339

And he's standing there with one foot pointed toward me and another foot pointed in the direction that he wants to go. You know how people stand there and they're like, good to see you, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1961.327

Now, how is that the guy that died of a heroin overdose?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1966.89

Did he get injured? No. No? He just got back on it? Because sometimes what happens is people get injured. I know.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1975.729

And they have surgery and then they have back and then they get on Oxycontin.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1978.712

I know quite a few people. Me too.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1980.353

I know a lot of people that that's kind of been the trajectory.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1982.855

No back pain, nothing?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1984.016

To me, there's another parallel. And the parallel is I just want to make money. Finally, I'm sick of doing independence. I'm sick of doing this and not making any money. And then you start doing, you know, whatever he was, Hunger Games.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

1995.727

And then you feel hollow. And then you want to fill yourself. That's what we were talking about before. Right. You want to numb yourself up because you feel like a whore. You feel like a whore.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

20.853

Oh, yeah. When I first met him, it was like one of those weird things where, you know, I mean, you've met a lot of famous people. Some of them, you meet them, you're like, oh, fucking really? Bummer. It's weird.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2002.846

Yeah. It's like there's one thing about like actually finding solace and saying, hey, man, I'm older. I'm going to do this movie. I get it. I would like, you know, I got college coming up for my kids and justify it in a way that's OK. And then there's one thing about you've identified yourself so much as an artist that

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2020.117

That to release yourself from that identity in other people's minds, again, going back to the ego, that just fucks you up.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2027.319

Right. You just can't deal. And then you want to escape from your reality. Exactly. Yeah, you want to numb yourself. Yeah. Well, that is a real fucking thing, man. And if you've ever done a project where it's like really – I did a really bad sitcom once.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2041.424

and uh i remember you acted it oh yeah yeah it was terrible and i remember while i was doing it i was just imagining like what if this is my life what if this stupid piece of shit sitcom goes for like 10 years and i have to keep because there's sitcoms that inexplicably are very successful or were the 90s yeah and very successful and they were terrible terrible they're terrible people love them

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

205.178

Yes.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

205.838

Challenge your psyche? Yes. In what way? Elk hunting is probably the most exciting. What is? Elk hunting. Elk hunting. Why? Because it puts you in danger?

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

2062.466

Well, people want to be numb. It's like eating ice cream. They just want to slack jaw, sit in front of the computer or whatever, the TV, and eat SpaghettiOs, just fucking numb themselves to some mundane bullshit. And if you're doing that kind of a thing, you live in hell. And a lot of those people that do those things, they wind up doing drugs because they just feel very lost.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

2081.715

But if you do that and you're doing it, you live in hell.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2084.236

Yeah, you live in hell.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

2084.916

Which it is to me, to you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2086.337

It sounds crazy to a person listening. Oh, you're making $50,000 a week. How are you living? You're living in hell. What are you talking about? No, no, no. That's not the point. Most people would be like, that's great. That would be amazing. But if you want to do a thing, if you want to be a great comic or you want to be a great actor and you're doing something- You have to have incentive. Right.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

2104.162

You have to want to create something really good. Right. And when you can't create something really good and you're just doing it for money, you feel trapped and you feel like shit. And then you have to reward yourself for this stupid fucking thing you do. Yeah. So what do you do? You go out and buy a nice Mercedes. You get a fucking house in Malibu.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

2118.33

Now you have a large monthly nut that you have to cover. But when you take people over your house, like, look how I'm living. Look at this ocean view. Come on. How much of this house do you use? Nothing. Almost nothing. I always say to my friends, my young comic friends that are coming up, your house is just your house.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

2134.779

I remember when I first got a nice apartment, when I moved to North Hollywood in 1994, I got a loft apartment and a pool table in it and a nice stereo. And I was like, this is incredible. I have a nice apartment. This is amazing. And then after a while, it just became my house. It became where I live. And I realized at that moment, I'm like, oh. It's all the same feeling.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

2156.826

All you need in a house is it to be comfortable. You need a TV and a kitchen and a couch and a bed.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

216.226

Well, no. It's just really difficult. You know, you're bow hunting in the mountains.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2162.549

It's the place that you sleep.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2164.029

Yeah, it's a place where you relax.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2165.43

It's not the place where you live the entirety of your life.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2167.351

You can relax almost anywhere that's comfortable and safe. That's all you need. And then everything else is kind of bullshit. It's kind of the things that you get for your money. It's like there's a lot of things that people spend a lot of money on and they're not really worth it. You don't really get anything out of it.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

2183.718

That's why it was interesting walking in here and, you know, man cave. I hate that fucking term. Man cave. Man cave. You know, it's a gay cave.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2193.56

Well, it's a man cave because no woman would ever let me decorate this place this way.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2197.941

But it's not that no woman wouldn't like it. Well, my wife likes it when she comes here.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2202.622

She just doesn't want to live in it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2203.942

She doesn't want to live.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2204.582

Do you want to live in it? No, I wouldn't want to live here. But I might if I was like a single guy. I might decorate my house like this.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

221.509

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

221.99

And it's just you in the mountains and just fucking mountain lions.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

2210.503

But it's things. The point is that there's things when I walked in here, it made me smile because I started seeing things that inspire. And you like to surround yourself like if somebody comes in and does an interior design of your office. Ugh. Ugh. Yeah. Ugh. And they go, we brought in this amazing fabric from Paris. And you go, but I don't like it.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

223.891

Do you stay up there for days and days and days? Yeah. And do you quarter your kill?

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

2231.653

And I remember when we were doing our house, we were like, I said, look, man, you can get things from Target. I don't want to feel that people have to take, I don't want anybody to feel that they have to take their shoes off. That's what I don't. I want them to feel that they can scuff up the floor because that's the mark that they made when they walked in my house.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

2249.658

And maybe I don't even like the scuff. I don't like that they walked so heavy. But it's their mark. We are leaving our mark.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2257.4

That's how I feel about this table. That's why this table has all these stains on it. Seriously, it's good. It has character.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

2262.461

Yeah, it's alive. And that's the thing. It's like when we built the ranch, I said, there were shelves. I said, I want linoleum. Or what is it? Formica. Linoleum on the shelves. And we have 150-year-old barn wood, but along with linoleum. Because linoleum reminds me of like trailer parks and shit. It just makes me fucking smile. So I saw this thing when I walked in because I have one.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

227.614

Oh, yeah. We pack it out. Yeah. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2285.532

And that is Ralph Steadman's print that you have.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2288.953

Oh, okay. And here's the story.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

229.415

See, that's a different thing. People say, I don't like hunting. Personally, I grew up in a very red part of California. Everybody hunts that I grew up with. And I would shoot, and I would hunt with my dad, and I would fucking think about it and dream about it for three weeks.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

2291.294

So Ralph Steadman, Johnny Depp gave me Ralph Steadman's number because he was close with Hunter. And my son was graduating. My son's an artist, and he was obsessed with Steadman, right? And I called Ralph Steadman. He said, hello. And I said, hey. I said, listen, you don't know me. I'm a friend of Johnny's and this.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

2309.202

I said, you know, my son's graduating and like the greatest gift I could ever get him. And this is not just to throw Stedman under the bus because it comes full circle. But he says, I said, my son's graduating. Can you do like a little thing? I'll pay you for it. Can you do just draw a little thing for him for his graduation? There was a long, long pause. And he goes, why the fuck would I do that?

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

2329.618

What? And so that conversation went nowhere. I was like, what the fuck? What an asshole. And then 20 years went past and my book is designed by one of his protégés.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

2346.269

And then – so Joey Feldman, he called me one day and he said – He said, Ralph wants to send you a print. And I said, no way. Does he know that we have like a history? And he said, no, I don't think so. So I sent him a voice memo of the history. And I said, I never held it against you. I totally understand it. So he sent me one for my son and one for me. And I have it hanging up in my house.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

2370.618

That's cool.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2371.499

I love having that thing, man. He was an interesting artist.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2374.443

He is an interesting artist. Yeah, I should say he is. But I mean, the stuff that he did, it's like that's also in that Gonzo documentary where it talks about how Hunter gave him acid and mushrooms and he just started fucking writing, drawing really crazy shit.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

2388.542

And like the thing for, do you remember the thing he did for the Kentucky Derby is decadent and depraved? Yeah, that was like the first thing, wasn't it? Yeah. I think that was how they got together. See, we can find that. The Kentucky Derby is decadent and depraved.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

2403.252

Yeah. It's a really good article, actually. Whoa, that was fast, dude.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2407.475

Yeah. But look at that. That article is fucking amazing. It's an amazing article. It's one of my favorite Hunter pieces.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2413.439

And I don't think that they spent a lot of time together. Hunter and him? No, I don't.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2418.222

There's a lot of it in the documentary where they're hanging out together. Really? Yeah, he picks him up at the airport in his VW Bug.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

2423.844

No, I know it exists, but I don't think that they spent the amount of time that you would think given that they collaborated so much. I think Ralph was back in Britain and Hunter was – I know. Look at that. Look at that. See, that's the kind of shit, do you miss that? Like, as part of driving your car and all that?

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

244.581

Oh, yeah, I love it. I love it. I love eating it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2443.352

That's the thing from the, put your headphones off for a second.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

246.902

No, no, no, I'm saying that I would spiral.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2486.522

I love seeing the sand in the road.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

250.143

Oh, you would get negative with it?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

251.463

Not even, it was negative. Yeah, I guess it would be negative, but it made me think of the kids that were going like, Mom! Mom, are you there? And I just killed the mother. It's like the Bambi kind of thing. Right. But I eat meat.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2557.041

That guy was fucking amazing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2558.581

It's great. It was great. It was fucking amazing. What do you love about his writing? And what type, like fear and loathing?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2565.327

Well, I was just reading Hell's Angels recently actually. That's the book that I go back to most. Well, that's really him when he was starting, right? That was the beginning of the sort of gonzo journalism stuff because he was kind of mixing in fiction with reality.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

2581.699

That's one of the things that pissed off the Hell's Angels is that he took a lot of liberties with the truth to try to like paint a picture.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2588.624

Right, which was his deal, which was his style later on is like exaggerating and kind of romancing his own life.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2597.068

Well, he was out of his fucking mind.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2598.729

Out of his mind, but he was also one of the most brilliant technical writers that ever was. And that's what's forgotten. Like even people talk about Kerouac and Kerouac was like, you know, he wrote on the road and he was on the road and it was the Hunter S. Thompson type of thing. And you're like, you know, he edited on the road for seven years. Oh, wow.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

2619.448

And nobody knows that because Kerouac kind of like, you know, he put forth this thing of like first thought, best thought. Don't edit. Don't. It was again. Bullshit. It's total horseshit. Oh, wow. That's why I say it goes back to writers. It's a labor.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

2634.357

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2634.918

You sit down and you write all the fucking time.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2638.181

My friend Ari on his laptop, he's got a little piece of paper above the keyboard that says the first draft of everything is shit. And it's true. It's Hemingway. Yeah. Hemingway wrote that. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2648.812

You know, his first book, Hemingway's first book was lost by his wife. What? Yeah. She lost it? Yeah. She grabbed it for him and was on a train. And then she went to the bathroom and actually left the satchel on the seat. And when she came out of the bathroom, it was gone.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

266.881

So that hypocritical thing of like, I don't want to kill anything, but I want you to kill it for me so I can eat it because I really like the way it tastes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2663.803

Oh, my God.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2664.864

Never to be found again.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2666.025

Oh, my God. Yeah, I know. Can you imagine? Oh, my God. All that work. Did that marriage work out? I don't think so. I bet she did it on purpose, that bitch. Maybe. She did it on purpose, that bitch. Yeah, man. I love writing. I love when someone's a really good writer because you just get these moments where you're like, yes. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's it. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2691.846

And Hunter had a lot of those moments where you're like, God damn it, that's good.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2696.138

You have so many people who were great young, and I know that there's a danger and a chaos within the vortex within which they lived, but it couldn't survive. Do you know what I mean? Most of them. When Hunter got... He was just too fucking alcoholic.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2711.429

And Dylan Thomas became too fucking alcoholic. And it's one of those things that you go, you were literally riding... things that aren't possible. You were putting together like wordsmithing things that are- Magic. Magic. Yeah, magic. How he was describing, it's that thing. Whatever it is you're doing- How do you get to that place which most people can't touch?

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

2736.767

Well, you can't neglect your physical health. That's the problem is that in this chase for the muse, in this dance you do with the drugs and the alcohol and the wild riding. And, you know, I'm sure you've seen Hunter S. Thompson's. There's a thing that a reporter, he hung out with Hunter S. Thompson and detailed what a day in the life of Hunter S. Thompson is. Right. Who was it?

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

274.007

Well, that's the anthropomorphization of animals that Disney has kind of done a number on people with. You know, like Bambi and Yogi Bear and all that kind of shit. Cartoons and...

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2761.075

There's a band called Beardy Man, and Beardy Man took me and Greg Fitzsimmons reading off Hunter S. Thompson's routine, his daily routine before he writes, and made a song out of it. It's fucking incredible. See if you can find that. Because the routine was so insane. And this was really what he would do. He would wake up at 2 in the afternoon.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2783.81

No.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2784.211

Chaos. Full on chaos. Here, let's put the headphones back on. Start from the beginning.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2792.995

Beardy man.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2806.644

P.M.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2811.107

415.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2856.455

Cocaine and grass. Cocaine, et cetera, et cetera. 12 midnight. Hunter S. Thompson is ready to write. 6 a.m. In the hot tub with champagne.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2868.434

In the hot tub with champagne. 6 a.m. In the hot tub with champagne. So this is like an electronic dance music song that plays in clubs sometimes. Super funny. When did you do that? Oh, it was a long time ago. Many years ago. Did you ever live like that? No, no. I've never even done coke. Wow. Yeah, I've never fucked around with coke. I like psychedelics. I like weed.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

287.099

teddy bears and we have a very you know living in uh when you live in urban areas and cities and people you know streets and concrete and people just get a very distorted idea of nature and our relationship with nature and when you're a kid and you're just these are sweet cute things and then all of a sudden you're supposed to go murder one like it's all fucked up but it's what's fucked up is the cartoons i mean they're cute and everything because they depict it in a way how

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2896.934

I like a little alcohol every now and then, but I don't fuck around with anything that's going to kill me. I'm not interested. And I'm not interested in anything that helps my ego, that boosts it up, makes me fearless. That bloats it? I'm not interested in any of that. I like things that make me scared. I like things that make me nervous. That's what I was talking about early on.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2915.787

I like to feel vulnerable. I like it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2918.449

You like to challenge yourself.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2920.11

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2921.351

And your perception and how you perceive certain things.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2924.132

I think... I like voluntary adversity, physical voluntary adversity, but also I think mental voluntary adversity. And I think that's what I like about psychedelics. I think you have to go on a journey and you can't control it. It takes you somewhere. And then when you're back, you realize you ain't shit. Just get all that ego stuff out of your system.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2947.506

Relax and just be appreciative and enjoy life and try to spread as much positivity as you can. That's what you're here for. Do your best at everything you do. That's what you're here for.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2957.08

And how do you find yourself doing that once you're not on it? The incorporation of it into your life.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2964.013

Just remember. There's profound moments where I think change you forever. And those, if you can hold on to them. Some people don't hold on to them. But it's a matter of intention, right? It's a matter of what are you trying to do? You're trying to be better at life. Well, if you're trying to be better at life, you can hold on to it.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

2980.468

If you're not, if you're just trying to like be the man or, you know, get all the accolades or, you know, win a fucking Grammy or whatever you're trying to do. Like if that's your real goal, like you're going to get lost because it's a shitty goal.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

2996.097

30.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2996.978

I was 13. Whoa.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

2998.839

So that's a little too early.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3000.28

I wouldn't recommend that. I wouldn't recommend it either. But it changed my life. And I had, by the way, I took it twice in a 24-hour period. Whoa. So I took it 13, had the greatest trip ever, like still affected by it. Wow. And then I took it again that night and went to hell. Oh, no.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3018.237

I don't know. You got cocky.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3020.498

No.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3022.599

No. Psychedelics want to bring you down a notch. It just did what it did. It did.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3026.9

It did. And I truly believe that psychedelics, I don't do psychedelics anymore, but I think I did But I do breath work. I do shit like that. And you go, can you get there? And I go, yeah, I've had some of the most amazing hallucinations I've ever had. Most profound hallucinations I've ever had. Holotropic breathing, breath work with Laird going off.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3045.173

And if you do it long enough, you just reach a place. Or if you're in a sauna at 240 degrees for an hour doing breath work.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3051.016

Oh, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3051.436

You're going to go places.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3052.337

Yeah, no doubt. Sensory deprivation tank, you don't need anything. You trip balls. If they could give you in a pill form what the experience you get from a sensory deprivation tank, it would be a very popular drug. Yeah. And it's completely safe.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3066.246

And a productive drug.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3067.346

Yes, very productive.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3068.787

So there's sensory – you say the sensory deprivation tank, but I just saw – you can see it online or whatever – where people literally put a thing, they go into a room and there's silence. It's not like a, you know, where they don't talk, a meditation retreat or whatever. but they literally go into a room by themselves. They don't see anybody else.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3086.424

They put a thick mask on, and they're in for four days, five days. Have you seen that?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3091.406

I have heard of people doing stuff like that. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3093.607

What about that?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3094.428

Well, I think being alone with your thoughts is uncomfortable for people, and I think a lot of people avoid that. They avoid really thinking, and you're forced to really think when you're in those sort of situations. You're forced to be alone with your thoughts. Scary. Scary. Well, we're always distracted. We're distracted by people and devices and input and news and social media.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3116.217

And there's like constantly stuff coming in. And sometimes you don't like, how do I feel about everything? Like, what do I even know? Have I ever really considered things like you need time alone? You need time to think, you know, that's what I really like about. That's why I work out by myself. That's why I like to work out by yourself. Yeah. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3136.122

I don't like having a trainer.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3138.283

I mean, I've had a lot of trainers. I appreciate them for technical advice and stuff like that. But this is a meditative aspect of working out by myself that I think is very important. It's also discipline. It's easy to go somewhere and the guy tells you, okay, 10 reps. But I write my own workouts out. Based on that day. Yeah, well, I know what I want to do. I'm pretty good at it. It's funny.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

315.715

Well, it's just completely distorted. You have these animals that are talking to each other, and the hunters are always assholes. If it wasn't for hunters, there would be no humans. We'd have never made it this far. If we were all just eating fucking tubers and grapes and shit, we would have never made it. Do you like garbanzo beans?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3160.917

I haven't heard many people say that. And it's not just some bullshit like affectation, rebellious thing. When I'm with it, and I appreciate trainers too, and I've worked with some great trainers, but they make me want to do less.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3176.415

Why?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3176.655

You know, they go, do 10. And I go, but why?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3180.877

I'm one of those assholes. I'm one of those assholes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3184.559

But I will actually push myself. If, say, 12, just for a random word, a random number, 12 is my limit. I'm good at pushing myself to 15. Or Jeff Cavallari, do you know who that is? No. AthleanX.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3198.058

Oh, yeah, I've heard of that guy, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3199.299

Super smart guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3200.32

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3200.54

And we would go back and forth, and I'd be like, look, if I'm at my last three reps, why do we have to rest for two minutes? Like, who said that? Who made that up? Is it really a recovery thing, two minutes before you can go back into 12 more reps? What if we just rest 30 seconds, and then you're right back into – that thing almost immediately.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3220.248

And those are the things that are tearing the tissues and growing the muscle and all that kind of stuff. So just experimenting with it all. Again, this all goes back down to what we watched of like, what are we doing to just live a little more vividly? How are we pushing ourselves? How are we changing our perception? How are we pushing our perception?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3238.381

Well, it depends on what you're trying to do, right? If you're just trying to get like conditioned, yeah, give yourself the minimal amount of rest and do it for as long as possible and then take time off afterwards for your body to heal and then get back after it.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3250.089

It's just a base.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3250.669

But it depends on what you're trying to do. If you're trying to get strong, I always recommend taking out like long periods of time in between sets. Okay. I take like five minutes, maybe even more, in between sets.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3261.977

To come back in at your strongest, to tell your body.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3264.159

Yeah, but I have long workouts. My workout's like two hours sometimes, two and a half hours, because I have these long breaks in between. But because of that, it's, you know who Pavel Tatsuliny is?

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3273.968

He's one of the godfathers of kettlebells. He's one of the first people that introduced kettlebells to America from Russia. Right. And their philosophy, his strong first philosophy is that strength is a skill. And you don't work on a skill when you're tired. So it's all about how many repetitions you do, and that's what builds strength. So it doesn't mean you have to do 10 in a row.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3295.959

Like say if 10 is your max, say if you pick up a weight and you can do 10 cleans and presses, and on the 10th one you're like, ugh. His philosophy is do five. Do five, wait a long time, do another five. So you've got the 10 in, but you've got the 10 in with perfect form.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

33.818

When you meet someone, they suck. You're like, oh, no, you suck. I know, exactly. Some people just not talk. They should only do what they do, act and sing.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3312.958

And then you're still getting the same amount of repetitions, but you're not breaking yourself down to the point where you might get hurt or where you're doing it incorrectly or poor form.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3321.505

So that's how I work out. Me too. I talk to my wife a lot about that. My wife would say because I'm all about form.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3328.672

Yes.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3329.172

Because otherwise you just get hurt and what's the fucking point?

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

333.947

I don't prefer it. Have you ever hunted one?

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3331.294

Yeah. I rarely get hurt from lifting weights. Have you ever gotten hurt in jujitsu? Oh, yeah. A lot. Everybody tears and pops. Yeah. I've had surgeries and fucking bulging discs and torn this and torn that. Yeah. You have to. It's a sport where you're trying to kill each other. I had sciatica. It's true. You try to get really good at killing people with your body.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3356.037

So other people are doing that to you.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3357.799

I had sciatica for a year and a half. Bad sciatica. Nine millimeter slip between L5 and S1. How'd you get rid of it? And they wanted to do surgery. And I had had surgery when I was really young because I had a slipped disc between C5 and C6. And they took out part of my hip and they went in through my neck.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

336.328

It's fucking wild, man. How do you do that? You take a bunch of acid. You take a bunch of acid.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3377.736

They moved everything over and they replaced my disc with part of my hip back when they used to do that.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3383.337

They replaced your disc with part of your hip? Yeah, they would chisel out a part of your hip. Like a bone?

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3389.418

And that's what your disc was now? A piece of bone? It is now. That doesn't even make sense. Your disc is supposed to be spongy. I know.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3396.779

I don't understand why. They put a piece of bone in there? Yeah, and it worked.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

340.851

LAUGHTER

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3400.08

Really?

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3400.361

It actually worked, yeah. Dr. Delamorter. I'll never forget his name. Jesus. So yeah, and then they used cadaver bone for a while, and now they use what?

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3410.807

Well, it depends. There's artificial discs. I know a couple people that have artificial discs.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3416.19

And it worked.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3416.69

Yeah, my friend Eddie got it done in his lower back. He's basically bone on bone, constant inflammation. So he got a titanium articulating disc in his back. What is this? Surgeon may take a small piece of bone from the hip called an autograft to use in a neck surgery called interior cervical disectomy and fusion.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

343.894

It's possible. Yeah. What about the sexual connotations of Disney? Like, you know, did you ever hear that thing that Disney Walt Disney had like the biggest porn collection of all time? Really? That's what I heard. I don't know how much of it is true. Have you ever seen how... There's like the Rod Stewart thing and there's the... You know what I mean?

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3432.964

The bone is placed between the space between the vertebrae to stimulate bone healing and promote fusion. Oh, so you got your neck fused.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3439.353

Yeah, they call it a Brolin graft. Oh, really? No.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3442.616

Hey. Hey. Wow. So that's different. You got your hip, your neck fused.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3449.821

Fused.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3450.421

Yeah.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3450.642

Which they probably don't even do fusion.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3452.363

They do. They still do fusion.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3453.844

Well, if it's a massive break or something like that, maybe.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3457.026

Yeah, I don't recommend it. There's other ways you can heal bulging discs. And one of them is there's a process called Regenikine. And Regenikine is, I had that done in LA, in Santa Monica. Yeah. They used to do it in Germany. You used to have to go to Germany to do it. And like Kobe Bryant went over there and Peyton Manning went over there. And what they do is they take your blood out.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3477.699

It's like platelet-rich plasma, but it's a more advanced version of it. And they spin your blood in the centrifuge and they add some stuff to it. And it turns it into like one of the most potent anti-inflammatories. And then what they do is you lie down there and they inject it in your back. They have like these little needles.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3494.471

I think there's an Instagram post of me getting it done on my lower back.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3498.826

Did you have a slipped disc in your lower back? Bulging. Bulging.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3502.13

It's essentially a bulging disc, but it can go back. Bulging disc can go back.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3506.435

That was my experience.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3507.436

You also have to have traction, like decompression. So there's a bunch. There it is. So that's my back. I had that done. So they take that and they stick all that shit.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3518.048

And they drill that, don't they?

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3519.749

That's a drill. No, it's just needles.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3522.571

I know it's needles, but it's not like acupuncture. They actually drill that. Then they put the needle in, don't they?

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3528.736

No. No, they just shove that needle in place. It's just like a syringe.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3532.279

On each side of your spinal column, right?

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3533.78

Yeah. It's like a syringe. And then inside the syringe, they pump in the Regenikine stuff. Yeah. And then it... It fills those areas up with this platelet-rich plasma that's been enhanced, and it just heals everything. And did you feel like it helped? Oh, yeah, absolutely. It helped my neck so much. My neck was so fucked. Jacked.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3554.689

My neck was so fucked I was getting numb fingers and pain in my elbow.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3558.13

I have that now. Do you really? Yeah. You should go to that place. Yeah, and when I ride motorcycles also, I have my hands up like that. I mean, I have shoulder issues. But I have a, that slip disc was a nine millimeter slip.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3570.177

Why do you like to do this? Huh? Why not do this? Why this? Because that looks cooler. Does it? Not to me.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3576.368

It looks super cool when you're doing it right now.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3578.369

This looks retarded. This looks retarded. This looks good. This looks like you can avoid things. Put it up super high. You can move around. Put it up super high. That looks retarded. When you have to turn, how are you going to turn like that? You're not going to do a good job. You look like a gorilla. This is better. This is better.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3592.472

What about that?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3593.113

This is better.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3593.893

What about this?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3594.573

Well, with Ducatis, I mean, that's like you're down like this, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3597.534

That's when I finally crashed was a Ducati. Oh, really? You went crazy? No, I didn't go crazy. I didn't do anything differently. With Parleys, you go slower. Right.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3605.996

You ride. And it's loud, so people know you're there. Thank you. That's a big one. It's huge. They have electric bikes now. I'm like, do you want to die? They're fast. They're so fast. But do you want to die? They make no sound. Nobody can hear you.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

361.385

I don't know if it's what... The Richard Gere thing. Right. I don't know how much of it is true. Google it, Jamie. Did Walt Disney have a gigantic porn collection? I wouldn't be surprised. A lot of people that are like really into kids stuff and like sweet, wholesome stuff, they need to flip. Have that other kind of slant? Yeah, they need something... Or eventually flip? Maybe. Maybe it's a cover.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3618.924

If I'm riding in a grid of 16 guys, because everybody thinks Hells Angels. I go, there's nothing about it that's trying to emulate Hells Angels, Mongols, any of that one percenter thing. But when you hear that rumble coming down the road, you can't wait to get the fuck out of the way.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3635.693

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And that helps us. That's true. That definitely helps you stay alive. Yeah, man. Yeah, loud pipes save lives. I've heard that many times.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3643.156

So to finish that thought, what I did was is I went to – I started instead of resting, which is what doctors normally say. They say do surgery, do surgery, rest, sleep, see if that helps. If it doesn't help, do surgery. Okay. And I did the opposite, which later, you know, Laird was like, anytime you get hurt, Laird will be like movement, movement, movement, movement. But this was before all that.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3667.37

But I started working out and it got worse and it got worse and it got worse. But I continued to work out and I started running and I started doing pistol squats and all this kind of shit. And then one day it was gone and I never came back.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3680.26

Really?

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3680.841

Never came back. So you just beat it out of you? I beat it out of me.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3683.963

Wow.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3684.564

Yeah.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3685.287

Yeah, movement is everything. You need circulation.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3687.569

You need blood in there, which is why they do PRP, which is why they do stem cell work or whatever.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3692.734

Yeah. And if you're just sitting there, the problem is you're also going to – your body is going to atrophy. You're going to lose strength. And then it's going to make whatever injured that area in the first place.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3703.123

But that was always promoted by doctors. Why would that always be promoted by doctors? Again, whether it's politicians or whether it's doctors or whether it's – they're telling you this is – You got to eat from the four food groups, man. You're going to die otherwise.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3715.985

Well, you know, there's a lot to that stuff. But, you know, the four food group shit is a lot of people just not knowing what the fuck they're talking about. That's what I mean. And also there's a different perception back then of like what was healthy versus now. But it's also a lot of these doctors, they're not athletes and they don't really understand like what's possible with the body.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3737.279

They just know how to fix things when they break. And then for the average person, they say just rest because the average person is not going to fucking do what you're doing anyway. So it's like, why, why tell them like what you really need to do is movement, constant movement and just beat that injury into submission. That's right. And no one's going to tell you that.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3753.345

How do I feel better? Lose some weight.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3755.126

yeah like go go do that uncomfortable thing start walking start slow maybe jog a little bit maybe lift a little something that's why when you see those videos of these guys that just for whatever is in their personality they've had fucking enough they're 400 pounds and they go that's it uh-huh buck stops here yep i'm gonna start doing my shit yeah they hit rock bottom they hit rock bottom yeah and then you see this again what we were talking about before incentive where they just go i don't give a shit

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3781.974

Well, isn't that the same with everything? Like, isn't that how you quit drinking? You just hit rock bottom? I was just about to say that. Yeah.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3786.62

Yeah, but you don't – I hit rock bottom when I was 15. I was shooting coke at 15. Jeez. So, yeah, the thing that you didn't want to try, I did want to try. But that was that group. That's why so many of those guys died. Yeah. You know what I mean? So –

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3801.101

When I look at Hunter S. Thompson, who I love as a writer, when I look at Dylan Thomas, who I love as a writer, and all these guys that had this kind of amazing life, and I feel, too, parallel. I had an amazing life, except nobody cared about mine. People really cared about theirs. I was just Josh that you wanted to stay the fuck away from.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

381.116

Or maybe it's like they're so cutesy with the fucking completely wholesome stuff that they have to balance it out with some bonded shit. Some fucked up shit. Some guys getting kicked in the nuts and ball gags.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3829.336

Yeah. But then you get to that point where you go, when did Hunter S. Thompson, when did these guys just become like some kind of clown mask of themselves?

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3840.624

Right.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3841.104

Do you know what I mean?

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3841.805

Well, in the end, Hunter was definitely that. Did you ever see when Hunter was on Conan O'Brien's show?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3846.708

No.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3847.169

It was horrible. He could barely talk. You barely could understand him. Everything was mumbling. It was real weird. He got in a gun fight with his fucking neighbors. He was shooting at his neighbors. That's what I mean. At what point does it turn? He was a full-on drunk, but it wasn't just that. His body was rapidly deteriorating. He had hip replacement surgery.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3868.197

And he was only 67, I think.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3875.62

I'm 56. Yeah.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3878.061

Like my mom died at 55. The whole thing this book became was my mom dying at 55 and me thinking back then she lived a nice long life. Isn't that crazy? It's fucking crazy. And then it turned out that I was 55 when I wrote the book, which I'd never even, the book kind of dictated itself. And then I went, holy fuck, I'm 55.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3897.921

I'm super young. Like this, I have some joint issues, but I'm young for the most part.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3906.069

For the most part. Yeah, you're physically healthy. You're not falling apart. You just have a few issues, which is just wear and tear of life. That's it. Yeah, but there's some people that if you don't take care of yourself and you don't eat well, and there's also a lot of other factors, genetic factors, but you could fall apart pretty quick.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3923.316

But if you're a guy like Hunter that's doing coke and drinking every night, You can't do that. No, you can't. And the writing was bad. The only time he wrote anything good in later years was 2001, right after 9-11. Right after 9-11, he wrote this great piece. I want to say it was for Sports Illustrated. I forget who he wrote it for, but...

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

393.16

Why is it that people feel that people in Hollywood and Texans are like that? Like, I know people that have moved to Texas and they've called me. There was one guy that I used to work out with in Venice. And he started, he moved here and he called me and he'd be like, hey, man, you know, the list is coming out. And I'd go, what list? And he goes, you know, the list.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3943.115

He wrote this really great piece talking about what happens next after the Twin Towers fall. It's like he wrote this thing about waking up in the morning, seeing the Twin Towers fall, and then realizing what's ahead for us. It was very pressing. It was very good. Was it accurate? Yeah, it was dead on. It was dead on. And it was vintage Hunter. It's like he tapped back into it again. It's on ESPN.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

3970.635

ESPN, that's it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3972.902

ESPN, this is the article?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3974.343

Yeah, this is the article.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3975.103

Would you send me this article if it's an article article? Yeah, I'll send it to you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3979.344

I would love that. Yeah. But this is the whole thing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

3984.006

I mean, what's so great is when you go – I mean, this is kind of popping all over the place. But when you go back and you look at all the politicians, whatever side – you know, whatever red, blue they lean toward, it didn't matter because Hunter was there kind of looking for something different and it wasn't all about him.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

4002.805

When it came down, they all describe Hunter as this like crazy, it was so much fun to hang out with him, but there was never a lack of he was super intelligent and wanted the best for everybody. He was a real patriot. He was a true patriot.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

4017.298

Yeah. Did you ever read Fear and Loathing on the campaign trail? Yeah. That's one of the more interesting pieces because you've got this guy who's following around the campaign trail, and he knows he's only in it for this one time. So he's not like any of these other reporters. He's just writing a book. Yeah, what are you going to do, fire him? Yeah, exactly.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

4033.15

And not only that, you can't because he's going to write a book. Like, he's writing a book. You can't fire him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

4037.853

Yeah, whether you like it or not, he's writing that book. But, you know, he's dropping acid. He's talking to these guys into drinking. Like, he's taking all these, like, fucking nerdy political reporters.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

4047.14

And he's introducing them to a perspective that they're not aware of. They don't know anybody like that. And the book is fucking incredible.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

4055.142

But when you see Gonzo, when you see – it's funny how much we're talking about Hunter S. Thompson. But when you see Gonzo, I don't know if it was in Gonzo or another documentary, you see how they're affected by it. You see a humanity in them because of him that you don't normally get to see.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

4069.747

Right. Don't you agree? Yes. Yeah. He made you question a lot of things.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

4074.008

Yeah.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

4074.708

And when people question things, they're like, what am I doing?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

4077.349

Yeah, why am I here? What is my purpose? Or did I have a purpose when I was young and I just fell into this political status quo?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

4083.77

And he even was questioning, like in the documentary, he was like, I don't even know what people want anymore. Do they want Hunter S. Thompson or do they want Gonzo? It's not even me anymore. It's like I'm a prisoner of this thing that I've created. And that's the thing that happens to people where they develop this sort of image and persona. Yeah. And then you feel like you're trapped by it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

4104.555

People have expectations when they meet you. That's exactly right. Kennison talked about that. Did you know Kennison? No. I did. Unfortunately. Did you?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

4111.399

I did.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

4111.919

No shit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

4112.58

Yeah. And not because of drugs. Just because I was around.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

4116.682

What year was this? When did he die? 90-ish to 92 maybe. I was in New York. So it had to be pre-94. Probably 90. Yeah. Somewhere around then.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

413.273

And I go, am I on the list?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

4131.817

It was through a friend that I met him and then he liked me.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

4134.421

Wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

4135.262

And sweet, incredibly sweet guy. He was a motherfucker, dude.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

4139.361

Motherfucker. We just got a – this guy does bottle cap art. Go to my Instagram, Jamie, and see the photo. This guy just made this insane bottle cap art piece of Kinison for my comedy club, and we put it up last night. Is he a hero of yours? Oh, yeah. He was one of the first – there it is. Ow, ow, ow. That's all bottle caps. Oh, no shit? Yeah, those are bottle caps if you zoom in.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

415.455

And he goes, no. You're clean. You're good. But I know you know who's on the list. It's you. I'm glad I know I didn't do anything wrong, even though I didn't do anything wrong. And I said, but why are you – like a twofold thing. Why are you under the impression that everybody in Hollywood lives under the same roof? Like we all live in the same apartment complex. It's they. It's they.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

4163.034

Wow, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

4163.755

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

4164.455

That's like in prison when they use cigarette packs and do. Patricia Arquette gave me a piece of art with a bunch of cigarette packs put together. Yeah, they make frames. That was it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

4175.424

Oh, wow. Same kind of thing. Yeah, this guy, his name is Jam Bottle Cap Art, J-A-M Bottle Cap Art. He does a bunch of different pieces with bottle cap art. Yeah, he's really good. It's really, really cool stuff.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

4188.174

You need my picture outside. I saw all your mug shots.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

4191.999

I'd love to have a mug shot of you. I'll send you one. Is it good?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

4195.144

How fucked up do you look? Pretty fucked up. I got a smile on my face. When somebody smiles during a mug shot, I always find that really funny. So when you met Kennison, was it at a show? No. Oh, it might have been the Comedy Club. I'd only been a few times. Sorry, Comedy Store.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

42.144

But then you get to know them. I don't know. I'm pretty good at this now where you don't. You see people that you looked up to. Like Eddie Vedder, I had a pretty close relationship with Eddie Vedder. Oh, really? Yeah, but I was drinking and then I would grab his balls and do shit like that. And then it was like, I don't want him around. I don't want Josh around. Yeah. I don't like that anymore.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

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He was out of there by then. He was out of there by 90.

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Well, what's the one down the road by where Greenblatt's used to be?

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Laugh Factory. Yeah. Yeah, you like those? I do. I love those things. Very much. The Laugh Factory. The Laugh Factory. It might have been that. Yeah, he got kicked out of the Comedy Store, I think, in like 87 or 88.

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No, then it wasn't there.

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Yeah, it was probably the Laugh Factory.

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But that's not where I met him. I met him at a house. I met him at a house, and I never went to a lot of those parties. I was just not part of that. Sam wasn't invited. But I met him, and he was really sweet, man. He would like... Mellow out. It wasn't like a thing. It wasn't an act all the time.

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Right.

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You know?

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But he was a prisoner to that thing that he became. For sure. Yeah. His brother wrote a great book. It's called Brother Sam. It's a really, really good book describing the ascent of his career and how it fucked him up and what happened to him.

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And what do you think it was? I mean, was drugs, drugs and partying and just stratospheric.

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Yeah. Yeah. Wasn't it instantaneous for him? Pretty quick. So in 1986, he's on Rodney Dangerfield's Young Comedian special. And then he does an insane to this day holds up HBO hour. And then those two things. And then an album that he made called Louder Than Hell. And those things are the best things he ever does. Everything after that becomes like a significant drop off.

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And in the end, he was basically a caricature of who he used to be.

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Yeah, a caricature of himself, exactly.

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And he just was captured. Yeah. But it's also – Imprisoned. There wasn't anybody to tell you how to do it back then because there was only a few like massively famous comedians back then. There wasn't a lot of us. It wasn't like today. Today there's like a giant community of comedians. We all talk to each other and figure it out together and everybody is just about – making better stuff.

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It's not about getting hugely famous. The ones that just want to get hugely famous, they're all mentally ill. And usually their career drops off, their comedy starts to suck. They're trying to do the wrong thing. So in Kinison in the beginning, He just wanted to be the best he could be. He just wanted to be really fucking good at comedy. And coming from this, you know, tent preacher.

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So he's like this revival tent preacher. And then he gets into stand-up comedy and he has this charisma and this ability to deliver that's so different than everybody else. And he's this short, fat guy. So when he talks about being married and living in hell, like he kind of like empathizes. Like this fucking guy's amazing. And revolutionized comedy. Changed comedy.

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Yeah, they. It's they. They are out there.

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He was the first guy that I ever saw that made me think I could do comedy. Because before then, I loved comedy. I always loved stand-up. But I loved it because it was funny. I would just like to watch, you know, Jerry Seinfeld on TV. Oh, these guys are so funny.

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Isn't that funny because you're so different than he is, and yet he was the one that you paralleled with that, like, liberated you?

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Yeah, well, he was wild. That was the thing. I never felt like I fit in. I always felt like I didn't want to be around polite people. I didn't want, like, you know, if a girl wanted me to go over her house and have dinner with her parents, I was like, oh, Jesus. I'm fucked. They're going to think I'm fucking crazy. But I was a kickboxer.

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They are out there doing that thing. Yeah. And then what would – how could you possibly think that a guy who's a trainer –

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I was a kid who had – I went from – when I was 15 years old, I got like deeply involved in martial arts. My entire social life up until like 21, 22 was just traveling around the country fighting. And so I was feral. My mindset was just – I just didn't fit in. I couldn't wear a suit jacket and pretend to be the guy. Did you ever notice? I wasn't that guy. Hello, sir.

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It's great to meet you.

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Things that I thought were funny, other people would think were fucked up. But my fucked up friends would think were funny. And those are the ones who talked me into doing standup. But they were equally fucked up. Did you start standup back then? In Boston, in 88. In 88? Yeah.

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Right on.

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Yeah, and I went to see Kennison in 89. I got to see him live in 89. I got to see him three times. One time when I was working, I was working at Great Woods Center for the Performing Arts, and he was performing there. Wow. And I got to see him live. I was a security guard. It was this place in Mansfield. Yeah, the whole Taekwondo team that I was a part of got jobs. Is that what you did, Taekwondo?

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Yeah. That's what I used to compete in.

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Oh, no kidding. Yeah. Where'd you compete out of? Junchong. Where was that? L.A.

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Okay.

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Taekwondo.

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Taekwondo.

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Yeah, I fought in L.A. when I lived in Boston. I fought in Anaheim in the Nationals. Right on. I traveled all over the country competing. That's all I did. And one of the guys who worked with us, one of the guys who trained with us, got a job as a security guard. And the guy was like, hey, do you know any more guys who know how to fight? We need more guys like that to work for us.

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at Gold's Investing. So if you're looking to build or even upgrade your current website, check out squarespace.com for a free trial or go to squarespace.com slash rogan to save 10% off your first website or domain purchase. Ennis would have the list. Why was he chosen? Well, he goes on Reddit. And that's how you get the list.

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They just hired a bunch of us.

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And so we got to see all these crazy concerts. I got to see Bon Jovi. I got to see Bill Cosby, which was kind of crazy. No way. Yeah. I saw Rodney Dangerfield. And Rodney Dangerfield was – there was this backstage area. And Rodney Dangerfield was naked with a bathrobe on. And that's how he would go on stage. At the end of his career, like Rodney would go, and by the way, murdered.

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I mean, I was fucking crying laughing. He was probably, I don't know how old he was in 89, but he was old. And this fucking guy was just on stage with a bathrobe on naked. Killing it. Giant hog, like hanging out of his fucking pants. And he was just hanging out, smoking pot, and then he would go on stage with a bathrobe on and just kill because he wanted to be comfortable.

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How did other comedians feel about him?

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Oh, they loved him. They loved him. Everybody loved Rodney. Rodney was one of the most universally loved comedians because he helped other comedians. Like, Rodney Dangerfield... He did these things, the Rodney Dangerfield specials, like Rodney and Friends. And so he would have – he introduced the world to Dice Clay, Sam Kinison, Robert Schimmel, Lenny Clark, Dom Irera, like some of the greats.

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And they all came out of his Rodney Dangerfield and Friends specials. They were some of the greatest specials ever. Because he would have all these guys that he thought were worth seeing. And he would put them out there to the world. And they all became superstars. I mean, that's how Sam Kinison launched. He launched from Rodney. And so Bill Hicks, a lot of people launched from Rodney.

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And so everybody loved Rodney. He was just loved.

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I know he's your buddy. And I, you know, because comedians, I used to listen, I used to have six albums and one was a bloody red vinyl album.

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remember the red albums okay sure yeah yeah and it was sick and i don't know where i got them i think i got them from like a flea market or something but they were lenny bruce oh yeah and that was the beginning he was the first he was the first he was the first real modern stand-up comedian everybody else just told jokes like two guys walking to a bar like that kind of shit totally

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He was the first guy that was like, why do we do this? And why is that? What is this?

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Where he questioned it.

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Yeah.

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Questioned authority.

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And people would come to see him because in the 60s, everybody was so confused as to how to think. Like, yeah, what are we doing? And this guy was like this.

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And how do we treat each other?

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Yes.

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And he'd literally point people out and he'd go heave and kike and there's a mick. And people would go, what the fuck is he doing? Right, right, right, right, right. At the most tense time.

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And then he'd bring it around. And that's why it reminds me of Chappelle. because Chappelle would get so seemingly or ostensibly inappropriate, and then somehow bring it around, and you go, fucking Jesus.

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Dave's a master. Master. And he's a real artist. That's a guy. You know when I talk about people that only start thinking about money? Yeah. That's not him. That dude lives in fucking Springfield, Ohio, and just travels around and just does a lot of shows for no money. He does a lot of shows for no money. He just shows up and performs. He just shows up.

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One time I was in Denver, and I get off stage. It's second show Friday night, so it's 10 o'clock show. Show's over. I get off stage. I go into the green room. Dave's there. I go, Dave, what are you doing here, man? He goes, oh, I thought I'd come out and visit you. Just hops on a fucking private jet and flies to Denver because he knew I was there. Didn't even tell me. Just shows up.

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And then I go, do you want to go on stage? He goes, oh, should I? I go, fuck yeah. So I ran out while the people were leaving. The show was already over. I go, everybody, tell everybody on the stairs, come back. Dave Chappelle's here. So they all come back in and sit down again.

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And he does like 45 minutes. And it was right around when Trump was doing... When he got caught saying, grab him by the pussy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It was fucking genius. It was so good. Off the top of his head, though? Oh, no. He... I mean... I don't know exactly how Dave creates material. I think what Dave does is spends a lot of time thinking and listening to music and coming up with ideas. And he writes some stuff down, but a lot of what he does is just performs constantly. He's constantly... constantly on stage working these things out.

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You said it earlier, artist. He's a real artist.

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That's the difference between somebody who's just good at what they do and somebody who is an innate artist.

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He's a real artist. He's a hero of mine. He's a hero of mine, too. He's a good friend. But he gets these giant deals with Netflix where he makes a lot of money. Which is great, but he doesn't do it for money. He's doing it for art.

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No, but what you can tell is he gets these like, oh, he turned down $50 million, he went crazy, moved to Ohio, or whatever the fucking story is that you want to make up. But then he comes back, he makes these $20 million deals with Netflix, but it's never in place of his agenda.

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No, it's all about the art. It's all about comedy.

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It's all about this wins, this wins. This is the priority.

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That's why he left his show because they were twisting it. Of course. Distorting it.

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I know why he left his show because I've been in that position where you go, this is turning into some corporate version of what you like. You love what I do. Now you can't wait to put your fingerprint on it.

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Exactly. That's it. That's exactly what it was.

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So you can take, so you can go, you know, that was me.

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And he gave up 50 million when no one was giving him 50 million. Nobody would fucking do that, man. And then he quit doing comedy for 10 years. And you know what he would do? He would occasionally show up in a park with like a fucking speaker. Really? And just show up and do stand-up.

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He did in Seattle. I know he did in Seattle because a friend of mine was at the show. Wow. He shows up. He goes, Dave Chappelle just shows up in this fucking park, and he gets a speaker with a microphone, and he just starts talking, and people just gather around.

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Respect.

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He was just doing these shows, these impromptu shows. He would show up in a bar. Can I go on stage? And they would go, okay. And he would just start talking.

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Knowing in his mind that he would eventually come back? No, that was just the present moment.

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I think he's just being an artist. Just being an artist for the pure sake of being an artist. So he had the money that he did make off Chappelle's show. And he decided to live frugally and take that money. And he didn't do anything for money for like 10 fucking years.

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He just raised his kids.

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And then he started coming back. And then when he started coming back, I remember him coming around the comedy store again and we had some conversations about it. And he just, you know, he just decided to start doing comedy again.

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You see people getting canceled now and it's devastating to them. And yet that's what that was. He just did it himself. Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

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He canceled himself.

The Joe Rogan Experience

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Yeah.

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He canceled the greatest sketch show of all time.

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Of all time.

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Yeah. And it only did two seasons. It's still the greatest.

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But that's not something that you see very often of somebody who just fucking can't help but beat to their own drum. Right. But the art wins in the end.

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The art wins. Do you know what I mean? Well, it's obviously when you see him. He's so good.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

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He's not malicious. No. There are moments where you think he's malicious. And again, he brings it around.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

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Well, the maliciousness is just to heighten the humor. It all just like brings it in. It also accentuates like some thoughts that you might have about whatever he's talking about.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

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But it's what everybody's thinking.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

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Yep. Exactly. And so fucking terrified to say that's why. Everybody's thinking.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

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Even me. Yeah. I'm watching it and I'm the inappropriate guy. You know, and my dad goes, how the fuck do you say what you say? And I don't understand. I go, you know, I said, honestly, do you want to know? Because I'm not ultimately mean. I don't want I don't want to fucking hurt. I don't want people to feel less than I do.

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But I watch Chappelle. Even me, I'm like, boy.

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Wow. Yeah, he walks that line. He gets out there and walks that line, but he dances around it, and he makes it beautiful comedy.

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That's how you get the list. I still am waiting for the list. Yeah. I think I'm going to see him when I'm here. We started communicating again.

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I appreciate it so much, because without him, we're all fucked.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

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And he's the way to find out if a comedian's a cunt. Like, if a comedian doesn't like Chappelle, they start shitting on Chappelle, like, oh, okay.

The Joe Rogan Experience

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Then you know he's a cunt.

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You're a piece of shit. You're a piece of shit. You're just a garbage human. Have you ever met anybody like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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A lot of these... He's not a real comedian. There's a lot of... He's an asshole.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

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Yeah, there's a lot of like... That's not comedy. Activist comedians. And what they are is really not talented. So they've glommed on to this idea of like being like socially conscious. And that's more important than the humor itself. But nobody wants to hear you preach. Nobody thinks that your opinion is better than theirs. This is what I always say. Like if you go on stage, you have an opinion.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

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Like... Other people have an opinion, too. Like if you go on stage and say, you know, I think Kamala Harris would be the greatest president of all time. A lot of people are like, well, I don't agree. But you have to have a way to make it funny so that they laugh. The people that disagree with you laugh. I don't even think this guy's correct. But goddamn, that's funny.

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And that's a way you can introduce an idea into someone's head that maybe would never accept that idea.

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idea it was just opinions so if someone's on stage and they're just saying opinions like you could you could disagree with that opinion don't frustrate you and you you can't talk you don't have you but if that guy can take that opinion and that perspective and make it funny and you're forced to acknowledge that he has a point yeah like there's something in there like i don't even agree with that but fucker god damn that was good god damn that was good

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

503.783

Well, when you have things like the Epstein client list that doesn't get released, then it fuels these kind of conspiracy theories about there being a list.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

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and that's the liberates man yes that's the real chapelle art that's what i mean not that we'll stay on this forever but remember eddie murphy when he did what not the first not raw but delirious delirious yeah oh yeah well he was a powerhouse man to this day that is the guy that i just wish i was friends i was friends with his brother um charlie yeah but i wish that guy i wish he would come back

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

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I know he got some weird stuff where he got arrested with transsexuals in his car. Whatever.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

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So did other people.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

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Whatever. They came back. He's just too good. He's too good. He's too good. Do you ever see when he gave a speech? I think it was one of those Mark Twain awards or something like that. And he did stand up. Where he hasn't done stand up in forever, but he was talking about Bill Cosby having to give his awards back. No. Because, you know, he does an amazing Bill Cosby impression.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

5099.786

Yeah, no, I remember. And so he did stand up, and it was as sharp as ever. I'm like, God damn, if this guy came back, he would be— And it was just off the cuff?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5107.488

It was something that— Oh, I'm sure he prepared. No, I'm sure he prepared, but nobody really knew he was going to do it, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

511.769

So why is that list not released?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5111.789

Well, they knew he was going to give a speech. Right. And his speech was essentially stand-up. Was stand-up.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

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You know, his acceptance speech was— Like 20 minutes or 15 minutes of stand-up.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

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Yeah, and it was fucking great. And there was all these rumors that he was going to start doing it again. I remember Charlie told me that Dave was thinking about doing it again. or that Eddie was thinking about doing again, but he never did it. He never did it. I think it's just too heavy.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

513.43

That's a very good question. Who has that list? Well, for sure someone has the list. Ghislaine Maxwell's in jail, right? So she must have talked. There must have been conversations. And there must be a bunch of very powerful people that are on that list.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

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We need comedians. I mean, that's like the theme of this whole thing. Whether you're talking about Hunter, whether you're talking about this, it's just too bad that they self-destruct, whether it be from drugs or fame or whatever. And you know what I mean? It's hard, man.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

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It's hard to maintain. And then once you make it, there's these weird pressures.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

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But it breaks up the status quo of this contraction, especially that we're I know that's why people move to Austin. I'm fucking sick of being told to think a certain way.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5162.472

Well, that's why comedy in Austin works so well. Yeah. Because we all moved here at the same time. We all moved here in 2020. Like, I was here because, well, Ron White moved here first. And Ron White is a dear friend of mine. And he moved here before the pandemic. And Ron was like, I don't want to live in L.A. anymore. I fucking love it here. There's no traffic. Fucking food's great.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

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Fucking people are nice. I can travel. I fly. I'm in the center of the country. I can fly anywhere real quick. Right. And I was like, damn, could I live in Texas? Like, I don't know about that. And then COVID came and right away, like my wife was kind of interested a little bit. But then when the riots started happening in L.A., then she got really scared.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

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She got very like it's a lot of like home invasions. It was a lot of crazy shit that was happening.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5206.37

Where is she from originally?

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

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She was from Colorado.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5209.794

Okay, so not an L.A. born.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

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No, no, no. And so she lived in L.A. with me for a while, and we were happy. You know, we lived in Bell Canyon, which was like outside of L.A. It's nice, peaceful, had a little land, coyotes and hawks and shit. But you're still in L.A. ? Yeah, well, for me it was okay because I had quiet where I lived, and then I could drive into the comedy store, and I loved it.

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But then when they shut the comedy store down, they shut everything down, and I was like, baby, they're not going to let us go back. This is like these fucking cocksuckers have control now, and that's what they like. That's why they became politicians in the first place. They like telling people they can't work. They have a grip on society, and they're going to fucking keep this grip.

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5248.431

We've got to get the fuck out of here.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

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So did you move sight unseen? Did you move just – Did you just come? Did you find a place? I came looking for... You came and you hung out for a while?

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

5257.937

I came looking to see if I could deal with it. We took a few days off and we flew to Austin with some friends who were also thinking about doing it. None of them wound up moving here. A couple of them moved to Dallas. But we came here and then... One of the things that helped, my daughters were 10 and 12 at the time. They were real young, and they were real confused about what was going on in L.A.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

527.701

Are all the powerful people in cahoots?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5276.287

It was spooky. You had to wear a mask everywhere, and that freaks kids out. It was freaky. It had a major impact on kids. We came to Texas, no masks. You go to restaurants, and we had this great real estate lady. She's a good friend now. We wanted to see this house, and she took us on a ride on a boat. She had a friend to take us on the lake. We go on the lake. People are playing Leonard Skinner.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5297.882

They're jumping in the water. They're laughing and singing. And in L.A., everybody's thinking, like, the world's going to end. There's demons in the air.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

530.604

Something that I learned when I played W.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5304.426

No, man, I was in New Mexico, and I was out on a 100,000-acre ranch. Whoa. Right? And we were doing Outer Range. We were doing the first season of our show, and we were tested every morning. And when I was out in the middle of nowhere, I mean, with, like, good 15-mile-an-hour winds, you'd have somebody come up. If I put my mask down to talk, you'd have somebody go... Yeah. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5333.093

And I'd be like, we're in the middle of nowhere. Also, it doesn't even work. It doesn't work. It's stupid. I'm not even saying that I have a certain belief system or anything. But in that moment.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

534.552

I played a senator. What was that like?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5344.158

Yeah. Provable that they don't work. Provable. Yeah. And people lost their fucking minds. And it was a stress test. And so we came out here. I bought a house like quick. And I was here.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5355.323

Is it still the same house you have now? Really? Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5357.984

Yeah, we looked at the house in May. I was living in it in August. And we were here. And then my kids started going to school out here. They loved it. I loved it right away. We were performing. And then we were doing shows inside where everybody's like, this is crazy. You guys are doing shows indoors? Because Texas didn't give a fuck. They're like, do shows.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

536.734

I played W. What is it like playing a guy who's still alive?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5377.397

Like a couple months after COVID, they're like, eh, open it up.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5382.161

So what are the numbers of people who got COVID? You know, I've never had COVID. You never got it at all?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5386.484

No, dude.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5386.784

That's crazy. I never got it. I don't know if that's a blood type. I don't know. What is that? Maybe you're healthy. Maybe I have it right now. I have a bit of a cold right now.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

539.775

Did you meet with him or hang out with him at all? Scary. I mean, no, I wanted to. Did you ever meet him? No.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5394.209

Maybe you have it. Sorry, dude. The new COVID is a joke. We used to test every day. Everybody that came in. Because I wanted to be compliant. I wanted people to feel safe. People were flying out here to do podcasts. I wanted to make sure that they're- They're not a dick. And so we tested everybody before every show. And one time I came in and I had the sniffles. And I was like, maybe it's COVID.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5411.982

Maybe it's COVID. Maybe it's COVID. And the nurse was like, actually, you have COVID. I was like, no way. I'm like, this is the new COVID? But I had it once and famously got in trouble for saying that I didn't get vaccinated, but I got healthy. And it was the CNN attacks and all that shit. And then the second time I got COVID, it was literally sniffles. And it was gone in like a day or two.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5431.939

So were the numbers different in Texas than anywhere else?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5434.961

I don't know.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5435.862

I'm curious.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5436.163

I mean, the numbers are all like the real people that got sick are the people with comorbidities. That was the real issue. What it exposed is metabolic health. And it's not that it didn't exist.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5443.952

It did because I have a brother-in-law who was in New Orleans in the epicenter of it. And it was the beginning of his residency and all that. And he was like, oh, bro.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5451.121

Oh, it fucking existed.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5451.761

I mean, it was fucking gnarly.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5453.222

Yeah, if you're really unhealthy, COVID fucked you up. Fucked you up. If you're really fat in particular, there was something about the way it reacted with fat people.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5461.105

African-Americans too, he said. That's a vitamin D thing. That's a vitamin D thing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5464.726

Yeah, well, you know, African-Americans, the reason why they're so dark, the melanin is to protect them from the sun. And melanin in white people, the reason why they're so pale is because it acts as like a fucking solar panel for vitamin D. It's a sponge. Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

547.5

God, that's weird, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5478.992

The melanin actually protects them from the sun's damage, but it also makes it more difficult for them to get vitamin D. So my friend did his residency in New York, and he said during the wintertime, we would do blood panels on people, and they would have undetectable levels of vitamin D. And this is the reason why people get sick in the winter.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

548.441

I had the opportunity to meet him afterwards. And there was something about him that was more, I remember when he was like giving candy to Michelle Obama and all that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5497.304

you're covering up, you're indoors most of the time, you're not getting any vitamin D, you're not getting any sun. If you're not supplementing, and not just with vitamin D, by the way, you have to mix vitamin D with K2 and magnesium. That's the most effective way for your body to process it. If you're not doing that, your immune system is shit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5511.955

It's not that you're giving, you're not a living Petri dish and you're giving each other the thing because you would do that in the summer too, but the minute you go outside and you get that vitamin D... And you get that sun, it's burning it away.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5522.462

Yeah, well, you're out in the sun. You're healthier. You're supposed to be outside. We're not designed to be locked up in fucking cubicles and fluorescent lights all day. It's not normal. So it's not healthy. And if you don't do something to mitigate that and to counteract that, your metabolic health is going to suffer.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5540.787

If you're not fit, if you're not healthy, if you're overweight, if you're not eating well, if you're not taking vitamins, all those things are a huge factor that was completely ignored. And the narrative was like, no, you need this novel injection that we haven't tested on anybody. We're going to fucking shoot it in every baby, every kid, every pregnant woman. Did you ever take one? No.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5560.881

I almost did. I didn't think it was a bad thing. This whole pandemic is... Through education and talking to doctors and also through my experiences, it completely changed my concept and my thought about the medical system. When the vaccine was first available, I was more than willing to get it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5578.059

In fact, the UFC allocated like 150 vaccines for all their employees, and we were doing these COVID shows where there was no audience. So we would do it at the Apex in Vegas where the UFC has their own small arena, and we'd have the fights there, and you'd go and get tested. I'd get tested in Austin. I'd fly to Vegas, and then they'd test me again, and you weren't supposed to go anywhere.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

558.987

It was like a really friendly kind of a mischievous thing. And I was like, I would like to meet him. And then I saw his paintings of his dogs and I said, I don't want to meet him. I just don't. It was something attractive for a moment. What's it about the paintings that got you? I don't know, and I love paintings. I don't know what it was. You didn't like the paintings?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5601.018

You just stayed in your hotel, and then you showed up and did the fights. And then they got the allocations for the vaccine. And I called up the doctor and I said, hey, I'm here for the fights. Can I get vaccinated? They said, sure, come on in. And then when I got there, I called the doctor and said, actually, you have to go to the clinic. We have to do it at the clinic. Can you go on Monday?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5619.177

And I said, I can't. I have to go back to Austin, but I'll be back in two weeks for the next fights and we'll do it then. He said, great. In that two weeks, they pulled the vaccine because people were getting blood clots. And then also during that two weeks, two people that I knew had strokes. Like one guy was in his 50s and one guy was in his 40s. Immediately following the vaccination?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5639.072

Within two weeks. Within days of the vaccine. Within days. Gut strokes. And I had a bunch of friends that had complications. One friend who has a pacemaker. I have a second friend now that has a pacemaker. And there was all these things that just kept happening. A pacemaker that they'll have for the rest of their lives? I don't know.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5654.5

It depends on whether or not your heart heals, like how bad the damage is. But his heart would stop beating for like nine seconds at a time. Wow, man. And he would just faint. And he was falling down.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5665.965

And, you know, Dr. Drew's talked about this, about he believes that's what happened to a lot of people that got boosted. A lot of people like after the booster, like there's something that would happen where your heart would just stop beating for a while and you'd black out and it would start up again.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5682.355

Because it wasn't proven. It wasn't a proven thing. But then again, how many of them are proven? Because you said, what, 72, 73 shots?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5691.566

Yeah, well, that's a different kind of vaccine.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5693.328

No, but I understand that. But there's still vaccines. And you go, why so much more now? Is there that much more disease?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5699.575

It's money. I think it's money. It's all based on money. I mean I'm not an anti-vaccine person, but I subscribe to Robert F. Kennedy's perspective. Like they should all be tested. They should be safety tested, and they're not.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5709.999

But it comes down to this thing. Like we were talking about working out. It comes down to this thing where you go, listen, the medical community I can use for certain things. The holistic community I can use for certain things. Why do I have to deny? Right. One just to be full in on the other. Right. Exactly.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5725.825

Well, it's just a narrative that they put out there that medicine and pharmaceutical drugs are the most important thing and everything else is bullshit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5733.351

Everybody should take Oxycontin. Everybody should be on at least 10 Oxycontin a day.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5739.735

Yeah. Help you feel better. You'll feel better. Just like, oh, I feel better. Yeah. You don't have to do anything. You don't have to feel bad about it. So when we came here, that was the thing. It was like everybody who came here was kind of like, fuck this. And then there were so many of us that Ron talked me into opening up a comedy club. You opened your own. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5759.547

Ron went on stage for the first time in months. I think it was eight months. And he grabbed me by the shoulders right after he got up. I mean, he fucking crushed. He goes on stage. There's this giant standing ovation. He crushes and he comes off stage. He grabs me by my shoulder. He goes, whatever the fuck we have to do, we're going to keep doing this. He goes, you got to open up a club.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

578.901

No, it's not that I didn't like the paintings. There's something in the paintings. I don't know what it was, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5780.332

I go, okay, I'm going to open up a club.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5783.447

Yes, sir.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5784.048

And then I just started looking at club spots. How often do you do it? Almost, I mean, every week. Every week you're up there? I went on last night three times. I did three sets last night. Wow. Yeah. That's cool. I'm constantly working. Yeah. Do you know Robert Rodriguez? The director? Yeah. No, I don't know him personally. I'm aware of him, though.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5801.682

That surprises me. Yeah. That's who I'm doing. I'm at the Paramount Theater tonight.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5805.885

I love that guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5806.726

Yeah, I love him. I've known him for 30 years.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5809.989

Oh, I'd love to meet him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5811.11

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5811.49

But no, I love his work, though.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5813.332

Yeah, super good guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5814.493

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5815.014

And he plays at Antoine's a lot.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5817.256

Oh, yeah, Antoine's.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5818.497

Antoine's.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5819.178

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Gary Clark Jr. 's place.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

582.803

You know what's something in the paintings is I killed a million people with fake weapons of mass destruction. We had a fake story, and I used that story to justify an invasion of a country, and now a million people are dead. So that's the question. And I'm haunted every night. Totally. I just paint dogs.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5822.08

Is it?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5822.361

Yeah, it's my friend Gary.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5824.142

I didn't know. So my wife knows Gary's wife really well.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5827.544

Oh, my wife knows Gary's wife really well.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5829.506

Oh, shit, dude. I met somebody on the plane who sat next to me, so I flew from New York.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5834.329

Yes, they sent a picture to my wife. No. Yes, yes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5838.571

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5840.512

Bentley? I don't know the guy's name. I don't know the guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5844.154

No, no, no, no, no. The guy that I met on the plane today, he said, what are you here doing? I said, oh, I'm going to see Brogan this afternoon. I'm doing Paramount Theater tonight. And he said, oh, that's so funny. And he didn't talk to me the whole flight. And he said, my son Bentley went out with Rosie.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5858.783

Yes, that's for a year. Yes, that's what it is. So he sent a photograph to my wife.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5863.755

Because I took a photograph with him that he sent to his wife.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5866.035

Yeah, so I saw it today, right when I was leaving. My wife shows me the photograph.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5868.436

That's fucking funny.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5869.456

It's crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5870.016

That's crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5870.556

Small world. Really small world. Super, super small world.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5873.457

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5873.997

But yeah, so yeah, Gary's wife and my wife are good friends. Yeah. I've never met Gary. Oh, he's the best.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5879.898

But man, I love him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5881.018

He's the best.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5881.918

I mean, that's another artist.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5883.758

A true artist. That's an artist. I mean, he's an artist.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5886.139

Another true artist. I was just with him. I did his video. I was asked to do a lot of videos and I've never done a video because I've never wanted to do a video. The idea of doing video seems weird to me. You're like singing somebody else's song or something like that. But Chris Stapleton, who's been a friend for a long time. So we were in Marfa together. Has he?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5905.909

One of the greatest fucking guys. He and Morgan. One of the greatest people. So yeah, we were together over the weekend in Marfa, Texas.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5912.714

Oh, that's fucking cool. Yeah, it was awesome. And Gary's another guy that I knew back in L.A. I met Gary at the comedy store.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5920.037

Doesn't he still live in L.A.?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5921.377

No, he lives here. Oh, he does? Full time? Yep, and that's the same thing. When I talk to Gary about it, I go, why'd you move to Texas? And this was back when I was still living in L.A. He goes, man, fuck that. Fuck that place. Fuck everything about that place. I don't like it. I don't feel good there.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5936.142

We haven't moved to Austin. I've spent a lot of time here. I love it here. My mom's from Corpus Christi. I've spent a lot of time in Texas. I'm going to eat Whataburger while I'm here. And, but I, you know, we moved to Santa Barbara recently and it's one of those things.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5950.811

It's just like, there's the thing about LA when you don't need, because you can do so many things remotely and you go, why am I here?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5958.497

Right. Right. Why am I here?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5960.719

Like I embraced this staunch thing of I'm a Californian and I loved going to New York and seeing how proud people were in New York. And I'd go back to California and I'd say, I wanna be the one proud person that's in California.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5972.133

There was proud people in L.A. for a while.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5974.135

There were for a while.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5974.755

We were all proud that we were L.A. Comics. L.A. Comics were like a different thing than New York Comics.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

598.706

that are staring like that. Like your face right now is exactly how every eye is in his dog's paintings. It's so funny.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5980.618

Because New York Comics were all like for themselves. They were all kind of shitty and backstabby. And at the Comedy Store we had a real community. And that's the best thing. And what you've done is recreate it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

5992.706

Like even when I talk about a chopper community, that's what it is. It's a community that you can rely on regardless of belief system or anything like that. You go, but that guy has my back. That guy will walk through fire for me. That guy wants me to do well.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6007.003

That's your people.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6007.843

That's my people.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6008.404

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6009.424

And that's the same thing with that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6010.565

All my people moved out here. They moved out here with me. So we had like 16 top shelf comedians move out here in the first two years. That many? There's so many clubs out here. There's five clubs on the street where my clubs are. That's crazy. I bought the old Ritz Theater.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6025.833

So that's the comedy mothership now. And down the street, there's a Sunset Club that my friend Brian owns. And that's a club that's like five doors down from me.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6033.457

So all these are new clubs that's happened in the last four years.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6036.018

The Vulcan was already there. That was the club that we started working at when we came here. That's down the street from me. That's only like a block away. And then there's the Creek in the Cave, another comedy club that's only like two blocks away. There's a bunch of them just on this one street.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6049.79

What if I move here and open a club and just do monologues? Do you think people will come?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6053.894

Sure. If it's good.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6056.055

Ladies and gentlemen, this one's from Sicario.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6058.277

If it's good, people would go. They might. They might. Look, man, you really have a passion for something.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

606.27

That guy must be medicated. They must put him on some things so he could sleep.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6064.761

This is the weird artsy city, which I love.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6066.581

It's a great artsy city. It is. It is. There's a lot of fake artists.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6069.542

I know there are, but there is everywhere.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6071.103

Yeah, there's a lot of posers. But that's all people that just like the idea of them being the one who decides what's real and what's not real. Just goofs. You're always going to have that. There's a lot of that that hated us when we came here. But really what they didn't like is that you couldn't just fuck around anymore. The real killers were here now. The real...

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

609.612

Is that that look? Does he put into his dog's eyes the look that he has always, or at least that he feels that he has?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6090.928

top shelf like national headliners guys like tom segura and tim dillon and these animals moved into town so this is like a new hub oh it's the hub of the world for comedy the comedy mothership is the hub of comedy in the world that's wild yeah and it just just opened two years ago that's cool it's packed every night it's it's awesome like dave came down like opening week it was incredible and no one knew he was there

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6114.978

So I did a set, and then after I did a set, I introduced him, and everybody just went fucking ape shit. And we were like, it's up. The club's rolling now. Now it's really happening. And then all these people were coming in from all over the country. A bunch of people moved here. And there's people moving here constantly. Shane Gillis moved here and all these guys moved here.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6136.156

So it's still happening.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6137.277

Oh, yeah. It's still growing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6138.878

Migrating in droves.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6139.958

We're talking about opening up another club because we're so packed every night and we have so many comics. We almost have too many comics and not enough room.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6148.283

Has the place grown a lot in the last four years?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6151.204

The city?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6151.564

Yeah, but do you see a gentrification of it or just like things that you – no.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6155.685

You see a lot of tech bros have moved here because Google moved here and Facebook and Tesla.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

616.736

Like there's a haunted... His lens? His real look behind his eyes, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

6160.187

I remember when Jesse James moved here, which was a while ago. He moved here a long time ago, right?

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A long time ago. Yeah.

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I remember when he moved from Long Beach. Yeah. And he called me and he was like –

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It's fucking great. It's better. I just never will live in a place that has traffic ever again. I'll never live in a big city. Austin's like a million people. There's a million on the outside and a million in the city. It's nothing. It's easy. It's easy to get around. People are friendly. They're just like real people. There's no one here that's like connected to that machine that –

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that forced compliance.

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Why do you think that feeds into your, or like to me being in LA when everybody's talking about what's your status right now?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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What's your status? All people care about is, are you killing? Are you going on stage and fucking killing? Are you doing your best work?

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How he sees the world, how he's experiencing the world.

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Are you doing it, period? Are you doing your best work? Like, do you care?

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Do you give a shit? Yes, do you really care? Are you really working on it?

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Are you just another affectation?

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What is it like running around knowing that you did that? Not just that you did that, but that there's no culpability. Like no one went to jail for that. No one even got brought up on charges.

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And if you're at that club, you have to be working on it because there's too many people that are working on it. There's too many killers. You can't just be lazy. You won't survive. There's too many killers. I want to go to this club. Anytime. Go tonight. Cool. If you want to come tonight. Well, I got this thing to do tonight. When's your thing? What time is it? I don't know. Eight? Seven?

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We have a 7 o'clock show and a 10 o'clock show. Really? Maybe I'll come afterwards. Come after. Come hang out. Jelly Roll was there last night. Really? Was he really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's cool. Jelly Roll's the man. He's here all the time. He's always hanging out here. Do you have my book? I do not. You don't? No, I do not. No one sent it to me.

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If they did, it probably went to a publicist or someone. I was going to bring a book for you. I'll buy it. Josh Bowen from under the truck.

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Why from under the truck? What do you think?

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Because that's where you were drunk, passed out?

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That's where my mom's boyfriend was drunk and passed out. But it has this, to me, I chose it because it has a double entendre that when you're under a truck, you're either fixing it or getting run over by it. Hence my life. I'm either getting run over by it or fixing it.

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How did you sort it out? Because you're so together now. Am I? Yeah, I think you are.

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Thank you.

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You're fun.

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Thanks, man.

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Fun people are together. If you can be fun, you're together.

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I think I'm at that place. I found a place that you have always been at that I didn't have. I had the opposite, where you go, no, I didn't do cocaine because... And forget the drugs. It's the mentality. I didn't do cocaine because it would kill me. And I would go, oh, that stuff will kill you.

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Let's just walk that line. I always wanted to walk that line. And I had a mother that walked that line. The book is very mother heavy. Very, very mother heavy. And it wasn't intended to be. It just turned out that way. That's why I wanted to... Fuck, I wish I had a book.

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No worries. I'm alive.

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I wanted to read you...

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a section of the lsd 13 year old lsd thing because it's fun yeah it's juicy yeah you like juicy stuff i do and i want to read you juicy stuff 13 lsd is so wild that's such a crazy mind-blowing experience for a 13 year old to have yeah can you imagine because you look at i mean i had i had kids when i had my first kid i was 20 years old and i was looking at 14 years in prison

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Well, that's what I was bringing up because when I would meet these people, I went to the Senate floor and I met a lot of these people. And then I met a lot of rich people, which is when I met Trump, actually, the 21 Club. Back when I knew a lot about him, I was fascinated by the whole... What's the 21 Club? 21 Club is a place that he used to go a lot.

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Oh, my God.

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Yeah.

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Jesus Christ.

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So that's why I missed my shot out there. I was surprised. It's Johnny Cash.

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We'll get it. There's Brolin. We're going to order it. Find Josh Brolin's. Oh, yeah. See if it's in there.

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I think there's a couple.

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Get a big mental print of it. Not that I'm proud of it. Well, it's part of your life, and it's why you're you today, because you've gone through shitty experiences.

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Yeah, but I don't know if they're shitty. That's what I haven't decided whether they're shitty or whether they're necessary for this person to get to this place. And not everybody gets to that place. So we're talking about all these people like Hunter S. Thompson. Hunter S. Thompson is my mother, man. Just that she wasn't a good writer. But everything that you, the song, that was my mom.

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I don't want my, you know, and I think Sean Penn appreciated shit like that. Like, wow, somebody has the balls. It's not even a little chaos. It's like somebody has the balls to like call me on my shit. Like not everybody's afraid of me.

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My mom had a loaded 9mm at her bedside table all the time. She was part of the, what was the scam that went on in the 80s? The Pyramid Scam. Remember that? She was one of the top five winners of the Pyramid Scam. She could talk anybody into anything. So she would come home literally, man, with bags, with grocery bags full of cash. Wow. And she'd dump it out and she'd say, count. Jesus.

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So I would sit there and count. Wow. You know what I mean? And she'd put them and I finally found... I think she had hidden some in her dresser and there was like a loose board that she took away and put money in there and I found it and bought some drums.

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When my grandmother died, we found stuff like that in her house because my grandmother went through the depression. Oh, yeah. That mentality. They all like stockpiled money. So she had coffee cans filled with money that she had like tucked away in like different areas of the house that we found after she died. Right, right.

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That's kind of great.

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Yeah.

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The mentality of like.

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Yeah, well, the mentality that you grow up or you literally might starve to death. There's no food.

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There's no way that can't affect you. And that's the whole point. There's no way that somebody can have that mentality of every cent means something. And we have to hide it unless somebody else takes it or whatever. With my mother, it was always looking for the most vivid experience. And I don't know why that was. Her parents weren't like that. It's just how she was.

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And then you either have my brother. I don't know if you have siblings or not, but my brother dealt with it totally different. My brother imploded. So he lives his life as simply as you can possibly live it. Whereas me, it was my reaction was the other way.

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So so how now and why? I don't know. I don't know. hmm 45 years old I think it feels like a good age to go okay do I want to do I want to go Nick Nolte or do I right right right right and I can do that easy you know Nick used to date Vicky Lewis who was on news radio with me yeah no way yeah yeah I didn't know that yeah I remember Vicky well super talented

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And it was like, you know, yeah, you have a chance to meet this billionaire, this billionaire, and then Trump.

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Super talented. Yeah, could sing, could act. She was a firebrand. Yeah. And Nick used to hang around the set, and it was always so weird to me to be talking to Nick Nolte. It was so strange.

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I remember one time I went to Fry's Electronics because I was going to buy some computers. I used to make my own computers. Yeah. Because I was really into computer games. Electronics. So I'd build my own computers. Yeah. And so I'm there like looking at motherships and I see this fucking old guy with his glasses on. And I go, I go, Nick goes, oh, hey, Joe.

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And like I was talking to him about like computer stuff, but I just couldn't believe he knows my name. He remembered me.

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He saved my life, man. He saved my life at 25. I was.

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Eyes wide shut type shit.

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Bro, there's a terrible movie called Warrior. It's a terrible movie. Terrible movie.

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You mean the UFC movie with Tom Hardy?

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Yeah. So he... What was I going to say? Is he... Oh, meeting these people, especially getting them drunk, you know, where people get super honest.

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That movie sucks. But he's fucking incredible in it. He's amazing. His one scene, this one scene where he breaks down, you know, he's the dad. It's so fucking good. It's so good. That one scene is worth sitting through the entire preposterous movie.

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Yeah. Why do you hate that movie so much?

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Because it's fake. You can't fight like two days in a row.

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Wasn't the Tyson-Jake fight, wasn't that amazing?

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Yeah. It's amazing they got paid so much money for that.

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$25 million and $40 million?

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I think $20 and $40. Yeah, I think that's what I'd heard. You know, which I'm happy Mike got the money. And I'm happy that he didn't get hurt. That was my fear that it was going to be a real fight and he was going to get hurt.

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You've known him for a long time. I've known him for a long time.

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I love that dude.

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Me too.

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And he was a larger-than-life figure in my childhood. Truly, me too. When I was a kid, when he was the champ, it was like, people don't understand what a champ he was. He wasn't just the heavyweight champ of the world. He was an executioner.

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Truly.

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Every fight was just a matter of how long was it going to last.

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I don't remember which fight it was that I went to go see a couple of fights. And I actually went to go see Julio Cesar Chavez fight. And that's when I met Tyson in the green room. And I met, at the same time, Muhammad Ali in the green room.

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oh wow that was a moment wow as a boxing fan that was a real moment but I remember and I don't know who it was and I think it was a 90 second fight and I went to go see this fight and Tyson was fighting and this guy was doing this stuff And he had this cut. He had built himself into confidence. And Mike came out afterwards. He was the first one, obviously. And Mike came out afterwards.

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You know, where they go, you know what, man? I trust you. I trust you. And you're like, here it comes. Here it comes. Whereas before that, they were like, you know, I'm not sure. And I just, what I think is, you know, and then they finally go, I just fucked her. I fucked her. And you're like, oh, or they tell you what's going on. But the thing that I learned, and I'm really curious about,

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And I watched his face. I didn't watch Mike. You would normally watch Mike because he's so charismatic and he's coming. You want to see what he's going to do. And I watched the guy's face. And I watched that confidence bleed from his face instantaneously. He had absolutely lost the fight long before Mike had ever gotten in the ring.

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Yeah, I maintain that in the time where he was champion, like the two or three years where he was at his best, he's the greatest fighter of all time.

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Of all time.

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Of all time.

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That's why it was so interesting to me as I was watching it, and I'm very verbal when it comes to that shit. Come on! What the fuck? You know what I mean? And he's still quick.

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Oh, yeah. He's still quick. He's still very quick. And he would do these things. But, you know, Mike had, like, he was walking with a cane just like a year and a half ago. Yeah, but he was really out of shape. He had bad sciatica. Bad sciatica. Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah, real bad. It wasn't that long ago that he was, you know, I mean, when I first met him, he was very, very heavy.

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He was not working out at all. And I asked him, how come you don't work out? He goes, I don't want to ignite my ego. That's pretty sad. He goes, I don't want to ignite the gods of war. The gods of war. And then the second time he came in was when he was preparing for the Roy Jones Jr. fight. Came in here? Yeah. And he was a totally different human being.

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He was fucking jacked and in shape and he looked super intense. And he was just like ready to go. And it was terrifying. It was like, and Jamie. Wait, when was this? A few years ago. Four years ago? Four years ago? And so when he came in the second time, I was like, this is – Jamie said it afterwards. He's like, that's a totally different human being than the first time we saw him.

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He was one of the first guys, like I said, with Nick Nolte. He was like, is that really Nick Nolte? This is crazy. I can't believe he's right there. Mike Tyson was one of the first people that I met that I can't believe he's really here because just like he was so iconic.

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Like you had to be alive and be a kid during the time where he was the champion to understand what he was. Because there was – after Muhammad Ali, Larry Holmes was a great fighter, but no one liked him because he beat up Muhammad Ali. So people always just wanted him to lose.

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Yeah, but is that the only reason? There's just a certain air of somebody and they come along once in a great while.

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Yes. Yes, but Larry Holmes never got his due. He was an amazing fighter. Amazing fighter, but still. But when he retired, then there was just like a series of boring champions. Like no one cared about the heavyweight division at all. No one cared. And then the cover of Sports Illustrated, I have it framed in my office at home. It said Kid Dynamite on it. And he was 19 years old.

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And I was like, who is this guy? And then I started watching him fight. And then he was fighting on like ABC, Wide World of Sports. You're like, Jesus Christ. Do you find yourself going back and watching highlights just to do it? Oh, yeah. I watch Tyson fights all the time. Yeah. I just watched his fight with Frank Bruno just a couple of days ago. Frank Bruno. Oh, my God. Tyson was something.

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I just don't think you can maintain that. You can only do that for a few years.

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The only fights that never worked out. Do you remember the fight with him and Bone Crusher Smith? Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Not a great fight.

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No, wasn't the best fight.

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Because Bone Crusher Smith was not a great fighter.

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Well, he was a good fighter. But not a great fighter. Tough guy. Yeah. But, you know, brutal knockout puncher. It just wasn't at Mike's level.

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Mike was at a level that no one was at. It was just, it was an insane combination of discipline, talent, incredible coaching, psychology. You know, when he was 13 years old, he was adopted by a guy. No, I know. Who was a hypnotist.

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Cuss used to hypnotize him. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, he hypnotized him by the time he was 13.

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Into being the greatest fighter?

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Into being the greatest fighter. Wow. And he told him, you don't exist. Only the task exists. And the task was just destruction. Did Mike tell you that? Yeah.

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I've never heard him say that.

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Does he say that to other people? Oh, yeah, he said it publicly. I've never heard it. Yeah, he talked about the hypnosis. He started doing it when he was 13 years old.

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like what we were talking about Hollywood and the perception of them all being in it together, is don't you think the rivalries and all that, not entirely, but that all politicians are basically under the same roof. They all know what each other's doing and that there's more of an agenda of power to keep the public thinking a certain way.

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So what's the parallel between, and this is the last thing I'll interview you about, what's the thing between Tyson and Jon Jones? Who I met once and I looked at him when I met him on a plane. And he didn't give me really the time of day. But I was like, I'm a huge fan. And I don't say that often to a lot of people.

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He probably gets that all day long. I'm sure he does.

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There's no doubt. Special fighter.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

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It's conquerors. That's what it is. They're both conquerors. I had this thing that I put up on my Instagram the other day that somebody made. It was me talking about trying to explain why John exists. That there's people that are just different. They're wired different.

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they are uncommon amongst uncommon men they just they rise to the top of the top and they just dominate they just dominate and that's john he's just the greatest of all time he's 37 years old and he's still the greatest i mean watching that fight watching watching you know tyson or jake paul or whatever jake paul i wouldn't even want to say tyson and then going the next day and watching that fight watching those fights it wasn't the only fight the one before was

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What was his name? The fight before John Jones.

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Oh, Charles Oliveira and Michael Chandler. Oliveira. Yeah. Incredible fight. Incredible fight.

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Amazing fight.

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And Mike was the youngest heavyweight champion of all time at 20, which is really crazy. Crazy. Crazy. But when Jon Jones won that title at 23, it's just been destruction of everyone ever since. Never ducked anybody, fought all the best, destroyed everybody, dominated his division, went up to heavyweight, dominated heavyweight.

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So why does somebody like that self-destruct? Is that a self-destruction?

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Because he's a wild motherfucker. That's how you get to be that good.

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Isn't that what we're talking about the whole time? Whether it's Hunter S. Thompson and this, and how you walk that line. Mike Tyson spending whatever, $350, $400 million, going to jail, whatever that is. Wild.

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But that's also what makes you so good, that wildness. Jon Jones, when he fought Mauricio Shogun Hua for the light heavyweight title when he was 23 years old, he opens up the fight with a flying knee. Nobody does that. You're fighting a legend. Shogun, at that time, when he was the light heavyweight champion, he was a legend. And not just a legend from the UFC, but a legend from Pride.

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Pride was this gigantic organization in Japan that Shogun really became famous for. So he was like a mythical creature almost in MMA circles. That was Shogun Hua. He was a beast.

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Conor McGregor and Jon Jones.

The Joe Rogan Experience

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John's in a different category.

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It's a different thing.

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Yeah. Conor self-destructed, you know, in a lot of ways because of money. You know, I mean, he took that fight with Floyd Mayweather, made a ton of money off that, and then took a long time before he came back to MMA. And it's just not been the same guy since. And I think that's just... It's money, it's a lot of partying, but it's the same kind of thing.

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It's just a wild, but in his prime, when Connor was in his prime, he was a fucking assassin. Fucking amazing. He was a fucking assassin.

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But it's that thing, that through line of not being able to let go. It's like what you were talking about, Chappelle. Chappelle leaves for 10 years, but then he goes to the park and he does a thing. There's a thing that's insatiable, that warrior mentality.

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Yeah, but there's a difference because physically you can only fight for so long. Yeah, that's true. Comedy, you get better every year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dave's better now than he was a year ago. He'll be better two years from now than he is now.

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You can still be Rodney Dangerfield eventually.

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Rodney Dangerfield, when I saw him, he was probably 70 years old and he was murdering in his fucking bathrobe, naked. With his schlong hanging out. Yeah, he was... He was still amazing because it's not a physical thing. Your body can only compete at the highest levels for so long, which is one of the things that's so extraordinary about John.

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Not brainwashed. There's certainly a benefit to that. Of course there is. Yeah, there's a benefit to that. And then there's also – the underlying factor is money, of course. Like there's so much money and influence. There's so many special interest groups. There's so many lobbyists. That's what I mean. So many massive corporations that are donating to campaigns.

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Because he's 37 and he still competes at the highest level.

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It blew my mind the other night. It was exciting. It was nice to be excited about something.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

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Steve Bates passed his prime, unfortunately, and he's got a lot of wear on the tires. It was kind of rough watching him get beat up like that. But that's the game they play. That's the sport.

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#2232 - Josh Brolin

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Yeah, and what's great about UFC that I never thought would last in the beginning, the great thing is anything can happen.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7180.692

Anything can happen. Frank Fertitta and Lorenzo Fertitta always said that every fight, every UFC, we sell holy shit moments. That's what he said. That's it. Like there's moments in the fight where you're like, holy shit. You look around at each other and everybody like.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7194.76

Dude, nobody does it better than you when you do this. You go back and you're thinking, you go, oh. Your eyes are this big.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7199.934

We always did that, but then they started putting cameras on us. Right. And I don't know why, when they started doing that. Yeah. We always did that. Every time something would happen, we would throw our- Because it's organic. Yes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7210.89

It's like you can't help it. That's what I'm doing at home. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7213.453

Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah. Holy shit. Holy shit. Yeah. There's moments where you just like, you can't believe it's really happening.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7222.005

That's the sport. The sport is, it's the craziest sport. It's the highest consequences of any sport. It's just, it's so raw and dangerous and you can't look away. It's so crazy. And when someone can dominate it, like John Jones or George St. Pierre or Mighty Mouse or any of the greats. George St. Pierre, another great one. Greats.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7240.861

When they can do that, it's like that's a different kind of human being. I mean, to be the best of the best people, the best people in the world at fighting, and that he's the best of the best people. And when George was in his prime, it was that same sort of thing. You would see him standing there, like this intense look in his eyes, just couldn't wait to get his fucking hands on that guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7259.713

You're like, God damn. I feel very, very, very, very fortunate that I've been able to witness personally so many of those moments and be there to watch greatness so many times.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7272.492

I think it's great that you've continued. It's surprising to me.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7276.236

I love it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7276.897

I know you do, and that's why you continue to do it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7279.48

I did the first 13 of them for free. First 13 ever? Yeah, the first thing I did. No, it was like UFC 37.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7288.647

Oh, when you got into it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7289.688

I started working at UFC 12. UFC 12 was the first event that I did in 1997. I was the post-fight interview guy. And so I did that for a couple of years, but... It was banned from cable.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7302.605

That's why I said it kind of went like this and then it was going down.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7306.546

Boxing did it to them. Boxing in cahoots with Budweiser, which is funny because now Budweiser sponsors the UFC. But they all wanted the MMA thing to go away because it was so exciting and crazy. They thought of it as a threat. And they essentially banished it. It also just had this unsavory look to it. You're fighting in a cage. Back in those days it was bare knuckle. Bare knuckle. It was bloody.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

732.262

Yeah, so there's always going to be this desire to sort of – Satiate. Colors into a certain life.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7330.15

Yeah, it was just crazy. They would call it human cockfighting, which I always found disgusting. But me, as a martial artist, the question was always, what would happen if you got a judo guy and he fought a wrestler? What would happen if you got a boxer and you fought a karate guy? And the UFC was like, let's find out. So Horry and Gracie came up with this concept.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7350.214

That's what I was going to say. Gracie was one of the first... Judo versus jiu-jitsu, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7354.596

Well, Hoyce. Hoyce was the first champion of the UFC. And he was the first guy to introduce that technique is more important than everything. Technique is more important than being big, more important than being strong. Because Hoyce was like 175 pounds. He was very slight and long and just a jiu-jitsu wizard. And he would get guys on the ground and strangle the fuck out of them.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7377.011

And we were like, what happened? This is crazy. This big jack guy. Also, the big jack guy's tapping. You're like, wow. What happened? And Hoist just opened up the world to Brazilian jiu-jitsu, and it made Brazilian jiu-jitsu the most popular martial art on earth. His appearances in the UFC changed the entire course of martial arts.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

739.867

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. And then treat you like you're a baby so they can continue making insane amounts of money. That's exactly right. Like if you're someone like Nancy Pelosi and you're worth hundreds of millions of dollars and you make $170,000 a year and there's no fucking explanation. Yeah. Like just that alone. Just that alone. Like you have to kind of keep people in the dark.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7395.664

His family, the Gracie family, particularly his father Elio, his brother Hickson, his brother Hoyler, and Horian, of course, because he created the UFC, they changed martial arts forever.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7407.273

That, like, more development and evolution of martial arts has taken place over the last 30 years than over the last 30,000 years. Wow. Yeah. Like, really, that's accurate. Yeah. Like, fighting is different. People really understand what works and what doesn't work now.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7421.983

And watching him was balletic. It was like a ballet. Yes. It was art. It was art.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7427.406

It's real martial arts. No. It wasn't that. His dad told him, don't hurt these people.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7433.57

Don't hurt them. You don't have to hurt them. Show them the art. Just submit them. Show them the art.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7438.113

So like Hoist, when he got on top of people, he wasn't like elbowing them, the eyeballs. He was just strangling folks, just arm bar folks, making them tap, making them quit. And he did it to everybody. And they were all like, what the fuck just happened? And everybody had to learn jujitsu. It changed martial arts forever.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7453.806

Do your kids do jiu-jitsu?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7454.927

Yeah, my kids have done it, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7456.168

Have done it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7456.789

Yeah, they don't do it anymore. They do other stuff. I don't push them. If they wanted to do it tomorrow, they said, I'm thinking about doing some kickboxing. I'm like, let's go. Where do you want to go? But I don't believe in... Everybody's different. I don't want them to... Follow my footsteps or anything stupid like that. I want you to be your own human being. What are you interested in?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7474.166

They're both interested in different things. My youngest is an artist. My other one is a phenomenal athlete. It's like I think that you should do what you want to do. And if you want to do that, I'll bring you. I'll show you. I'll teach you. I'll help you. But if you don't want to do that, I don't want to push you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7490.501

Let me be a good parent and celebrate what my kid is, not what I want.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7493.744

There's so many different kinds of things you could be interested in life. And everyone has a different psychology. So everyone has different things they gravitate towards. It's just like, what is the thing? Is it music? Is it art? Is it your writing? What do you like to do? Find that thing. Chase it down. How many kids do you have? I have three. I have a grown. She's 28. And I have a 16 and a 14.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7512.839

Yeah. I feel like you've got to do what compels you, what drives you. And part of it as a parent is like there's so many stories of parents, particularly with like talented athletes, that were too hard on the kid and put too much discipline on the kid and the kid's burned out. I've seen so many cases of that, you know, with these sideline parents.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7536.538

That Russian mentality or that Asian mentality.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7539.62

Not here, but there. You kill the joy. You know what Royce Gracie's dad used to do? If he lost a competition, he would buy him a present.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7549.324

Because? What was the psychology?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7550.844

Because they're always going to want to win.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7552.825

Meaning the effort? He bought the effort? He bought the present for the effort?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7555.886

No, it's like it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Like here, you have a toy. Here's a gift. Here's a thing. This is just growth. This is just development.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

756.694

You have to kind of like keep dancing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7566.29

hoist his dad ilio felt like you live the same life over and over and over again until you get it right you subscribe to that like ancient eastern philosophy of reincarnation yeah he really believed you will live the same life over and over and until you get it right and so his philosophy is do one percent better a day just do one percent just give you it's not about going for

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

759.835

Otherwise, you're going to jail. Someone's going to start investigating, and they're going to go, hey, what you did is not legal, and you're going to be in real trouble.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7590.913

From here to here, it's not living at 100% all the time. It's the process.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7594.434

It's the process. It's the process, the constant process of growth.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7597.355

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7597.995

And through that constant process – I mean what they did was even more crazy because Elio along with Carlos Gracie, they revolutionized a martial art. Like they – Jiu-jitsu is brought over by these judokas from Japan, Maeda and Kimura, who came over to America or came over to Brazil, rather, and trained with the Gracies.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7619.765

And then they took those techniques and made them applicable to smaller people, made them applicable to like because Ilia was only 145 pounds. But even have these no rules fights in Brazil, these fucking huge fights that would go for like an hour and a half.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7634.133

Yeah, and he would just beat these guys with technique. So they developed leverage. They figured out a way to highlight the submissions and make things super technical, and they would analyze moves and break them down, and it became the philosophy of the entire family. That one family created more fucking assassins than any other family in the history of martial arts.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7654.881

And yet they're the nicest people.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7656.121

The nicest people.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7657.222

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7658.022

Yeah, I hoisted him here a couple months ago. He was awesome. He's so fun. You know Ceci? No. She's way on.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7663.504

Girl, she's with Laird a lot. She's at Laird's place a lot.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7666.566

I mean, they have a clan, bro.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7668.088

It's a clan, but it's a close clan. Yes. And it's a friendly, familial clan.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7673.091

Yep. Yeah, they're very nice people. But that's the thing about jiu-jitsu. It's like you get out all your aggression in the gym and it kills your ego.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7680.157

And you can go be kind.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7681.337

You can just be a nice person. Be a nice person. Jiu-jitsu people are some of the nicest people I've ever met.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7685.14

Me too.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7685.541

They're super friendly and warm and normal people. They just are obsessed with this one thing. And through that thing, it's like a vehicle for developing your human potential because it's so difficult.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

769.279

What's your relationship like with money? In what way? Just in what you made a certain amount of money for a long time.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7697.608

And when you do a difficult thing, it makes the rest of life a lot easier because there's no way whatever you're experiencing during the day is going to be as difficult as someone on your back trying to strangle the blood out of your brain, like literally trying to fucking choke the blood out of your head. There's no way. There's no way life could be harder than that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7717.179

That's the thing is the wildness. You have to have something. To be a champion. To be a champion or to be a good person, I think. You have wildness, which we've talked about throughout this whole thing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7727.328

If you don't have wildness, you're going to be boring.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7728.549

Which if you bring it back, honestly, because I have to bring it back to the book, that's what the book is about.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7732.252

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7732.792

Wildness unmitigated.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7734.473

Right. But you eventually figured out a way to get a grip on it. That eventually turns out on you. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7739.257

But most people, it turns around and it bites you in the ass.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7742.34

Most people.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7742.76

It's a sad ending.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7743.841

But I think those sad endings are a valuable lesson for the other people.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7748.324

Power of example.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7749.645

Yeah. You learn from a lot of – one of the reasons why I never did coke is when I was in high school, my friend's cousin became a coke head. He was a coke dealer and became a coke head. And him and his girlfriend would just do coke and hide. They were just like – they had an attic apartment. They were in this fucking apartment and were just like doing coke and selling coke and watching TV.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

775.382

I don't think about it. You don't think about it? No, no. What I like about money is to not think about it. That's what I like.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7768.375

And he like withered away. He lost all this weight. Like he got bit by a vampire. Yeah. And I remember thinking, Jesus Christ, stay the fuck away from Coke. It was terrifying.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7776.92

Why would you want to do that? What would be attractive about that? Nothing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7780.002

I guess it's the – I mean you've done it. I haven't done it. I guess it's the euphoria when you get that hit, that feeling, that feeling of elevation, that feeling of like you just know fear and you feel excited. You want to start a business with people and – You got plans.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

780.204

Do you like spending it?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7800.096

I just love in the description of it, the eyes kind of get like this and the craziness. And you go, yeah, it's bad for everybody else. It may be good for you for like 15 minutes, but everybody else is fucking miserable around you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

781.545

I like buying stuff. Me too. I have a nice car. I drove here. I drove a 69 Camaro. See, but that's different. Yeah, I like that. That's fucking different. That's character. I like fun stuff, but for the most part, I'm not interested in it as a goal. What I like about money is not having to think about it. My friend Brian Callen said this to me once.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7811.144

The worst thing to me was when I would be high, like smoking weed, and I'd be like just chilled and silly, and I'd run into a coke head. And you're like, oh, no.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7819.992

He's trying to talk to you like this.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7821.353

And you just get battered with, like, talk. You're like, I got to get out of here.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7826.419

It's disgusting to me.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7827.84

It's a weird drug. It's a weird drug, but it's obviously very popular. Yeah. And it causes a lot of problems.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7834.537

Yeah, no thanks anymore. Yeah. No thanks.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7836.799

I'm good. Not interested in that one.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7838.261

You smoke your butt. I'll smoke my cigar.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7840.343

Yeah, I like cigars too. Cigars are conversational. They are. They're tools for conversation.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7845.508

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7846.069

They relax you, light your brain up a little bit, get you a little fired up.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7850.674

Read this book when you can.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7851.855

I will.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7852.856

Seriously, I think you'll like it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7854.377

I know I'll like it. I like talking to you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7856.01

Yeah, you'll laugh. You'll laugh. Not everybody will laugh when they read the book. You will laugh. Because I think you understand absurdity.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7866.915

How long did it take you to put it together?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7868.136

Two years. It's nonlinear. It goes all over the place in all these years.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7873.33

Did you have, when you sat down, did you have like a framework in mind of how you wanted to pursue it? No. No?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7879.153

No, because I've written probably 90 journals in my life, 90 full journals, and I would go back and I kind of started to put... Some of those together, and I'd go, oh, that happened in 88, or that happened in 76, and that kind of stands out as being a milestone moment or whatever. And I'd start to write those down.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7895.92

They were really poorly written, and then that started to instigate one thing and another thing, and it kind of wrote itself. I think it was 450 pages when I finished, and then I knocked it down to like 240.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

79.105

Oh, right. Yeah, he's probably used to people constantly being afraid of him. Yeah, like, oh, I can't fuck with him. Right. Well, he does wild shit. Like, when he went down to fucking Mexico and met with El Chapo, like, Jesus Christ, dude. That's a fucking wild, reckless thing to do.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7909.016

What is that process like, the editing process?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7910.836

That's a good process. That's the hardest process I've ever gone through. But you become a better writer.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7915.237

Do you do it with an editor or do you do it by yourself?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7918.238

No, I did it with an editor because I didn't sell the book right away. First of all, most memoirs are not written by the people who they're about, which makes no sense to me. Because you're writing about yourself, but you're hiring somebody else to do it, but you're taking the money. I don't get it. So I wrote it. I wrote the entire book. Then I sold it. So I didn't sell it based on a celebrity.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7938.967

I sold it based on the book because you could read the book. And some people hated it. Some people read it and they go, I don't get it. It's too wild. It's too whatever.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7947.933

Well, everything is not for everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7949.815

Exactly. And that's okay.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7951.396

Yeah. It's more than okay.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7953.478

What's wild is when I was in the middle, which I think you would like, when I was in the middle of doing the audible for the book, About halfway through stumbling through the audible, I go, what the fuck did I do? I should burn any evidence that this fucking was ever even thought about. And then I spiraled for about a month. And I don't spiral. I just don't spiral about anything.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7977.858

I'm pretty cool with anything that comes along. And then people started reading the book. And then I got this varied response that was always visceral. It was never like, I really liked your book a lot. I thought it was well written and all that. Somebody would go, fuck.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7993.565

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7994.065

And that's nice.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7994.885

That means you nailed it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7995.906

I don't know.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7996.366

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

7997.307

I don't know. But I do know that the responses are good.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8000.928

Well, that's what's important. It's working. It had a desired effect. You got out your thoughts. You got out your experiences.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8008.174

But that editing process is a good process because you refine and you clarify and you simplify.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

801.885

He said, he goes, real freedom is when you can go to a restaurant and not worry about what anything costs. He's like, everything else is bullshit. It is. And it really is. Everything else is bullshit. When you just go to a restaurant, get a nice steak, order a bottle of wine, have a good time, and not think about the bill.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8015.34

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8015.961

That's cool.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8016.361

You get to look at it with fresh eyes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8017.702

With fresh eyes. Yeah. It's the arm bar. You could just grab an arm and then try to bend it as much as you can. Or you can fucking figure out how to get in there every time. Did you always know that you were going to do this? You were going to write this book? No, I'd written two or three books and put them in the corner, in a dark corner, and let them accumulate dust.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8038.56

I never thought I would do it publicly because I was always into that thing of like, oh, you're an actor and get over it. You want to be a writer. You want to be a writer or you want to be a musician. Every actor wants to be a musician. Every actor wants to be a rock star.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8051.131

And I was like, nah. And then this lady read this book, this lit agent, and I said it the third time, and she said, you need to fucking stop referencing yourself as an actor who's a writer. You're a fucking writer and a really good writer. Just write. And she was tough on me.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8068.024

So you feel like you had almost like a disclaimer, like I'm an actor. Oh, yeah, I did. That's what you're doing, giving yourself like an escape.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8085.783

You know what I mean? And where's the self-importance come from? What happened to the wagon that just went down and people tried to shoot you?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8092.805

Doesn't the self-importance just come from attention? Period. You get extraordinary amounts of attention and then people develop self-importance because of that. Yes, yes. Because they think they deserve that attention.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8101.447

Because it's a false thing. Yeah. And then you start seeing people manifest it like, excuse me, I said...

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8107.448

hot coffee I didn't say warm coffee I said you know and you go I don't I don't understand the mentality so for me it's probably another attempt which I think I've manifested in a bunch of different ways of right sizing and there's nothing like that will right size you like a fucking book put you right back into why are you doing what you were doing where do you come from how do you feel about your kids

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8137.365

Where's your sensitivity? Where are things that have become concrete that you need to break in order to feel again? Where are you limiting yourself? And I don't like the idea of limiting myself. Did I love drinking? Fuck yeah. I had so much fun, dude. And so did a lot of other people. But I go, this is now limiting me. Well, don't you want to go out and take a drink? I go, fuck no.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8167.53

When you're out with a bunch of people having fun, no, because I'm having fun.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

817.877

What I think happens is, and be grateful for it. And to remind yourself that that exists to be grateful for and not be taken advantage of. And I think that's one of the hardest things about money slash power is you start treating things as if they're underneath you. Ooh. You know? Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8170.311

Right. You don't need to drink to have fun, but there's a thing when you're drinking a lot and having fun, you think this is the reason why I'm having fun.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8177.155

This is the reason why I'm having fun.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8178.756

Yeah. It's a trap.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8179.957

That's the trap.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8180.937

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8181.478

That's the trap.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8182.478

Well, you know, you can have a drink or two and really enjoy yourself, or you could think that the only reason why you're enjoying yourself is because you're having a drink or two.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8189.381

And that's usually why you have more drinks, because you think, this is the reason people are liking me right now. This is the reason people think I'm funny.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8197.085

And you keep chasing that drive.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8198.125

Imagine if you went on stage, and every time you went on stage, you had to have at least six drinks. Because you go, this is what they want. And then you wake up in the morning, and your kid goes and wakes you up, and you're like, ugh. And you go, that's not worth it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8215.187

What's the fucking dude's name from Knight Rider? You know who I'm talking about. Oh, David Hasselhoff? Yeah. You ever see that video?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8220.731

Of course I did. The kids. The burger video.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8222.612

Yeah. It's the saddest fucking thing ever.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8224.853

Yeah, it didn't look like a good burger.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8226.634

Well, he's just hammered and his kid filmed it. It's awful, man. It's so awful. It's so cringy. Yeah. That's what everybody's afraid of, becoming that pathetic example to children.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8237.203

And you wonder how much that exists and the video's not going. That daughter...

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8242.768

videoed that right like i want you to see what this looks like right and supposedly that kind of threw him into sobriety or whatever i don't know if he's sober or not did he if i don't know i will hope he is if anything would throw you into sobriety your children filming you that's the lowest moment possible would do it for you yeah i didn't want to be filmed so i stopped early he got off i did get filmed the last time yeah

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8268.798

i drank yeah it was super lame i was at a what do you call it a del taco and i tapped the cab in front of me accidentally when i was moving forward and he got out and like created a thing and somebody filmed it from the back of the cab oh wow yeah and i look stupid you can't fucking you can't fucking drive you're not a fucking drive you're like oh dude shh

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8295.305

don't speak no don't speak there's nothing worse than being sober and seeing something oh there's nothing oh no i'm so because your perception of it why you were you were like no man this is an honorable moment you're saying i did something that i didn't do right and we need to hash this out when the when the when the reality is is you're just kind of regurgitating bullshit

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8317.748

Yeah. Also, you know how to affect people with your words.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8325.354

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8325.895

You know how to express yourself in a dramatic way, and you think you're going to fucking get through this on top.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8331.519

I'm an actor, motherfucker.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8332.62

Yeah, motherfucker.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8333.421

Watch this.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8336.823

I'm going Shakespeare on you. You know what my favorite movie of yours is? What? No Country for Old Men. Why? Because it's so fucked up. Because it's so fucked up? It's such a fucked up movie. Even the end, when it ends, you're like, what happened? That's the end?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

835.45

Where you go, God, I'm so glad I can go anywhere in the world right now and get a meal and I don't have to think about how am I going to pay for this? Yeah. Am I going to be in debt on my credit card? But when you start saying, excuse me, I said, I said, 204 degrees, not 190. Right. Read my lip, you know, and you're like, oh, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8350.31

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8351.09

It's like that guy, what's his name, Javier? What's his name? God damn, that guy was a good psycho. He was so good. God damn. That movie was so, it was just so unusual and intense.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8365.017

And there was no feeling, and people ask this all the time, there was no feeling that it was a special movie.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8369.862

Really?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8370.382

Yeah. I told you I went back to Marfa, Texas for the first time in 18 years with Stapleton. And the guy running the bank is the first guy that Javier kills in the movie. This is the guy running the bank right now, Chip.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8383.796

And I talked to Chip. I have a picture of me and Chip. And I talked to Chip, and I said, Buck, you were the first guy. Did you think that? And he said, no, that was a friend of a friend who said that they were auditioning people, and the reason I did it is because I figured nobody would ever see it. It seemed like a small... No, that's the proprietor.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8403.123

It's the first guy that Javier killed outside. That was a good scene, though.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8409.347

What is that dude like in person, Javier?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8411.969

The best. The sweetest human being. One of my best friends.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8416.312

Crazy. Yeah. That's inside of him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8420.074

Well, that's the thing. That's what makes him an artist. Yes, yes. Because he's one of these guys that literally, he was so depressed during that thing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8427.839

Really?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8432.005

What the fuck? You know what I mean?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8435.33

That's depressive.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8438.194

Look at him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8439.075

Oh, my God. He played such a good psychopath.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8443.496

He wore SPF 100. He had an umbrella all the time to keep the sun off him. You see how pale he looks? But yeah, that's the guy. The guy to the left, that's Chip. Can you stand there for a second, please?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8456.143

So he was really depressed because of his hair?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8458.604

Yeah, and me and Woody would take him out. We would take him out to the Cowgirl, what was it called? Cowgirl Cafe. And we would have drinks with him. We would make him, because he would stay in his apartment with the drapes drawn and all this kind of shit. He just didn't want to go out. He said, I don't like violence. I don't drive. I don't know why they hired me. Why the fuck did they hire me?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8479.332

Like, why am I here?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8480.172

Well, how did he pull that out, then?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8481.553

And I'm from Spain. Like, this guy's not from Spain. I remember when we worked, we sat in a trailer, and he said, in that proprietor scene, he has this great line. He goes, call it. He takes the coin and goes like that, and he says, call it. And the guy says, I don't want to call it. And he says, you have to call it. It's destiny calling for you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8500.836

And we were in his trailer, and Javier says, how do you say it? And I said, call it. And Javier kept saying, call it. And I said, no, dude, call it. Can you hear it?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8509.604

I'll put the headphone on.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

856.709

That's just gross.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

857.85

It is gross, but it happens.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

859.291

That's just taking advantage of this relationship that everyone knows where service people have to be nicer than they really would be normally, like a regular person.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8621.457

It's because of the simplicity of the scene. Plus the consequences.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8627.846

It's the pause. Boom in the air. It just hangs. And you know that this guy has some sort of weird morals. It's so weird. Yeah, he's got some code that he lives by. And he's about to impose this code on this guy. And it's no problem putting that bolt through his brain.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8644.282

No problem. And the guy knows it. And he doesn't even know why he knows it. It's just something.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8649.663

Right, he just knows it. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8651.724

And you sit there and you just kind of. It's a great fucking scene. It's a great scene, man. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8655.885

How did you not know that movie was great while you were doing it? Because it was so, we were just. The Coen brothers are fucking amazing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8662.209

They're amazing, but you were just having, they had done two movies that were sort of bigger than what they normally do. One was with Clooney and one was with Tom Hanks and it didn't work.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8670.993

Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8672.114

No, that fucking Oh Brother, Where Art Thou was amazing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8674.675

I love that movie. It was amazing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8675.836

Big Lebowski. Was Lady Killers and what was the one with Clooney? I've never heard of that. Well, there you go. Yeah. But yeah, so I think that they just went back to this simple like Burn After Reading was after No Country, which was also really good. Super good. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

868.396

Hoping for a tip, hoping for one of your many hundreds of thousands or hundreds of millions of dollars.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8695.629

But, yeah, they just kind of went back to this very kind of feral, you know, base place and just said, let's just tell this simple story and let's let it happen. Maybe, I don't know. I don't think they're like this.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8707.519

How did you not know while you were doing it, though?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8709.5

It just didn't have that vibe. It didn't have that vibe. It was so simple. Wild. Wild. It was so simple. But then when you saw it, though. Dude, when I saw it, I saw it with my kid, which was probably super irresponsible. How old was your kid at the time?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8725.313

That's okay. That's on the cusp. But I saw it with him in an editing room on a big screen. And we left and we got in the car and we didn't talk for 15 minutes. And that's never happened.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8740.189

Like literally not one word. Wow. And then I said, what do you think? And he goes, fuck.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8749.642

Which is a great response. That's that movie. That is that movie. That movie is fun.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8753.304

You know, you want to tie it together too in the end and like a typical Hollywood ending and Javier and my character go head to head at the end and that doesn't happen. Which is how it was written in the book, Cormac. And I got to know Cormac really well. I was with Cormac the night before he died.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

876.001

Disgusting. It's a gross way to treat people. But some people want to get rich so that they could do that to people. Maybe someone did it to them when they were younger and they're like, I can't wait to do this to other people.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8768.83

Oh, no kidding. Wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8770.191

So, and I asked him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8771.473

That guy could fucking write. Fuck, dude.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8774.015

Some of the greatest writing, American writing ever. Yeah. In the history of this country.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8781.082

There was something about his writing. It was like, Jesus Christ.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8783.945

That's another one of those guys, artists, where you go. I would ask him about his writing. I didn't want to talk about it ever. And then finally he got mad at me one day and he was like, I don't fucking know, man. I just sit down at the typewriter and it comes. Like, what do you want me to tell you? Wow. I was like, all right, man. Fucking 87 years old. Relax. But he could write.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8804.476

I mean, he had some, he was tapped into, and talk about a guy who just like, you were like the muse and do you have a special place and do you have this thing that, no. Just sits down and writes. The bed that he was on, it was me, his ex-wife, his son, and Cormac that last night. Wow. And always at the edge of his bed was that typewriter that he used for 25, 30 years to write all those novels.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8830.581

And then he had one before that that was exactly the same. But that typewriter was on an old piece of wood at the foot of his bed. Wow. And even at the end, he would just grab that thing and...

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8842.501

get it out it's cool yeah there's rare humans like that that have that thing yeah yeah they just tap and they tap into it and they just keep going they get on that path and they just keep going it just keeps getting better just get better at it we've talked about a series of very special people

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

885.791

I mean, when you said nice car and you were like, I thought you were going to say, I was like, oh, please, no.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8863.55

You know, what makes the what's the difference of what makes somebody that special, that iconic? Are they crazy? They're definitely different. They're different.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8875.239

Yeah. I mean, it's a resistance to the norm. It's it's acceptance of reality. It's a poetic understanding of our place in the universe. There's so many different things that are all sort of coalescing into this universe.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8888.632

But they see through a different lens, though. They're just made up of a different cellular makeup.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8894.456

That's probably why he didn't want to talk about it. He didn't want to fuck it up.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8897.358

He didn't want to fuck it up. He didn't want to mitigate it. He didn't want to lessen it. He didn't want to, what's the word, make it pedestrian.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8905.464

Yes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8906.245

You know what I mean?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8906.885

Yes. He didn't want to try. Sometimes magic is just magic. You don't want to figure out.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

891.502

Lamborghini no I don't have any of those and then no I like muscle cars I like old muscle cars that's my favorite that's like me at 37 knucklehead and people say I was at an affectation I know you're friends with Momoa or whatever I go no man I've been riding motorcycles since I was three and a half years old they're fun they're not only fun there's something on a if you read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance which is the only book that's ever been written that kind of gets close to the kind of spiritual place if you're a true motorcyclist

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8913.67

what's how it's happening yeah just know that you can do it and just keep doing it exactly you know just be be a craftsman be a person who's like dedicated to this thing yeah you know yeah he has to know he had to know it was really good i mean enough people told him it was really good yeah but if you have even a guy like that who wrote the first up until all the pretty horses none of his books sold

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8939.181

That's pretty crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8940.061

Like 1,000 people bought it. 1,500 people bought it. And then it was made into a movie. And then you go back and you're like, all these banned books that we know back in the day. 1984, George Orwell. Henry Miller. All these fucking people. People are like, ew. And then Van Gogh. Painting a painting. And all those paintings being outside getting rained on. and now they're selling for $100 million.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8966.521

Yeah, all after he's dead.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8968.741

All after he's dead. He never knew. He sold one painting in his lifetime, so he never got to, not even a little bit, experience what

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8981.733

Right. Wow, man. Well, maybe that's why they're so good. Because they had to do it anyway. Because it's like a purity of expression. Yeah, he's just doing it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8988.999

Whether people paid attention or not is who they were. And they gave themselves to it a thousand percent.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

8996.145

He's an artist. An artist. A real artist. Yeah. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

9.531

Hey, oh. Little Bo Peep, she needed the money. Oh. Oh. Remember how great that was, man?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

9000.568

Thanks, dude.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

9001.289

Thank you. It was a lot of fun. I really appreciate it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

9003.91

I really appreciate it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

9004.77

I'm going to read your book immediately.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

9006.411

I would like you to.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

9007.211

I will definitely.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

9008.092

You're one guy I would really like for you to read.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

9010.253

I'll get on it. All right. Thank you very much. Bye, everybody. Bye.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

92.094

And I do think that that's organic, but I think that that's also, you just have that thing where you just go, you know what? Shit's getting boring. Right. The weather's just too fucking nice here.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

921.175

Whether you're writing with your son or whether you're writing with a grid of guys or whatever, that beautiful, thunderous hum when you're in a group of guys who really know what they're doing and you're in absolute fucking sync. Yes. Yes, your arms are up here and your arms are pretty numb at that point. but you're fucking soaring. You're an eagle on a fucking jet stream.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

942.59

You ever heard of Hunter S. Thompson? You know that documentary they did, Gonzo? Yeah. In the documentary, the very beginning, he talks about riding a motorcycle. Oh, I don't remember that. On the Pacific Coast Highway. I don't remember that. Oh, it's fucking great. See if you can find that. He talks about riding a motorcycle, about that the lines begin to blur. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

963.956

And you're just on the edge and how alive you are. It's a fucking fantastic speech.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

968.897

We don't have to get into this book right away, but I wrote. They came to me. It's the only story that I wrote that somebody asked me to write for the book. And they were like, well, you're really into motorcycles. Why don't you write a story about motorcycles? And I tried, and it was just bad and bad, and everything I wrote was so forced and bullshit. And finally I said, I can't do it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

988.288

I'm not going to write it. And the minute I said I'm not going to do this, I started writing. It just kind of started to come out, and it's good.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

993.931

Do you write by hand?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

995.404

I do.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

995.905

Yeah? Mostly. Do you feel more of a connection when you write by hand? No, that's not why I do it. You don't like to type?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2232 - Josh Brolin

999.769

Because I'll write any which way, whether it's on the phone, whether, you know. I remember people saying, like, I write, you know, by hand. I handwrite because it's the way it used to be. And I was like, yeah, it also used to be under candlelight, which fucked your eyes out.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

1019.689

There is some evidence that human beings came across the Bering land bridge.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

1024.77

So that probably means there was people already here and people came here from Asia.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

1118.217

Unfortunately, that's just the thing when people are supposed experts in a subject and someone comes along that's also been studying it but from an untraditional perspective. People reject that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

1211.688

Well, it's also the same thing that we saw during COVID with medical experts that disagreed with the narrative. It's the same thing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

1219.752

When you take esteemed professors and doctors and physicians and you cast them into this kook label because they disagree with the narrative that the medical establishment is pushing, and then they turn out to be correct, which most of them did, you see the same patterns. It's just power. It's just power and people that...

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

1239.083

Have their identity wrapped up in them being the ones that have access to the actual information. They don't want it to be distributed by some guy on Netflix. That's right. Even though you've been probably studying it more than them. Certainly studying particular aspects of it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

1273.554

Your wife's an amazing photographer. Like, who cares if she takes tourist photos? The photos are incredible. They're of real sites that are very pertinent and very interesting.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

1282.859

Criticizing amazing photographs is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Why would you criticize amazing photographs of ruins that are perplexing?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

1292.647

How could you find even an area where you want people to agree with you?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

1310.355

It happens in everything. You see it in martial arts. You see it in science. You see it in everything.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

1366.089

resist absolutely being told what to think well the problem is these experts are human beings and human beings have very distinct behavior traits yeah that they exhibit especially when they're in a position of power and prestige yeah and they like to hold that and they like to it feels good for them to be a person that looks down upon the people that don't know better yeah and tell them what to do and tell them what to think

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

1388.583

And when you're doing that with something like – look, if you're doing that with something like mathematics and someone's a mathematical expert, math is a very specific and precise science. It's very specific. Archaeology is like who fucking knows what's out there because you haven't searched everything. It's not possible to. And as we develop more –

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

1409.947

These fascinating technologies like LIDAR, where you have the ability, ground-penetrating radar, all these different things where you can look into the soil itself and find things that aren't visible on the surface, see them through trees, see them through that. We're going to find more, and obviously in Brazil they have done it, in the Amazon they have done it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

1536.017

That are deep in the rainforest.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

1577.301

That's an interesting thing, too. We've talked about that before, but for people who've never heard those other podcasts, they've determined that the Amazon rainforest is at least partially man-made.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

1634.81

And there's the other thing that you've discussed in depth, the terra preta, this man-made, incredibly rich, nutrient-dense soil that they can grow incredible agriculture off of that we really, to this day, don't know how they created. It's a mystery.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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So it's just large-scale regenerative agriculture using some old, lost method.

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By nature, so it's these spots of fertility all over the Amazon and we went into that mystery quite quite a bit in one of the episodes It's so interesting, especially when you consider the stories like the lost city of Z, you know, which they turned into an interesting film Yeah, but the the book details these records of these incredible cities that these people had visited a long time ago and then when they tried to go back there was nothing there and

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Because everybody had died off because of European diseases, probably.

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But those cities were just consumed by the jungle. And much like Detroit, if you go to Detroit now, you can see there's a bunch of neighborhoods in Detroit that are essentially abandoned. And trees are growing right through the houses. And the houses are... I mean, that's just a few decades ago. And the houses are almost gone in some ways.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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If you went back 200 years ago, there'd probably be nothing left of them. And... This is probably exactly what happened in the Amazon, except the trees just consumed the landscape because it's such an incredible dense rainforest that things grow so quickly there.

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It's so wild that that happens. It's so crazy when most people probably aren't even aware. Everyone knows there was a genocide of Native Americans in this country, but most people don't know that 90% of them were wiped out by disease.

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Which is just unbelievable to think about. Millions of people just wiped out over the course of a few decades or 100 years by diseases.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Is that true, the smallpox-infected blankets? Because I've heard that that was like a rumor or a myth.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Right, because we had it forever in Europe. It's just so terrible when you read Cabeza de Vaca's story about visiting the Maya civilization. And you realize, like, that was – you guys fucking killed everybody.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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So what archaeology would like is to be in control of expressing that narrative in its fullest form. And I don't think they know.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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And if we're finding the oldest ships that we currently are aware of, which is, as you said, about 6,000 years ago, if you tack on another 6,000 years of decay on top of that, what are the odds you're going to find anything?

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The epic return of Yellowstone, Sunday, Sunday, November 10th at 8, 7 central on Paramount Network. They can. No. Nobody can explain the Olmecs. Explain that. Explain those features on those faces.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Not at all. How would that be racist if these were the most advanced seafaring people alive 6,000 years ago?

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Well, Flint does that a lot. Yeah. He does that a lot. I saw him do that to Jimmy Corsetti online over uses of parentheses or brackets. Did you see that?

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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That somehow or another that's a code for Jews. Like I thought it – I thought what he was doing was avoiding – there's certain algorithms that pick up on particular words that you use. Like you ever see that people – They don't like if they want their posts to be more viral, they don't write the word shooter. They write S-H and then they put like two asterisks and then T-E-R-S.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Now, if we had that evidence and that information when we were confronting Flynn, that would have been a very different conversation. Totally. But the arrogance in which he distributed that fake information, it's disturbing. It sucks when people just want to win and they don't want to get to the truth.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Yes. So what people are trying to do by blanking out swear words and cutting out different words is that you can bypass algorithms that selectively remove or limit the distribution of those kind of posts with those keywords in it. Yeah. So that apparently was all he was trying to do was adding brackets to something to enhance the algorithm.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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But it's just like accusing someone of racism, it should be very clear what they're saying. It shouldn't be you have decided through some sneaky code to decide that this person's racist. Oh, this code means this. This is a commonly used code. Yeah. From what I understand, those use of brackets is just to trick the algorithm. Yeah. Just like the two asterisks for shooter.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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It's also the dumbest suggestion because the most sophisticated ancient civilization that's baffling people to this day is in Africa. So shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. It doesn't make any sense. Those were the most advanced human beings ever. And we are in disagreement. There's a lot of confusion and debate as to how long ago they were there.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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According to their hieroglyphs, they were there 30,000 plus years ago.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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But at the very least, those were people in Africa, okay? So all the racism shit should be out the window because no one's saying that was anybody else.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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They literally have images of themselves. We know what they look, you know, these drawings of what they looked like. We have statues of what they looked like. It was an African civilization. They were the most advanced people perhaps ever. I'm leaning towards ever.

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That you can go visit right now.

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To put it into perspective, I always use this quote. I forget who came up with this, but it's a perfect analogy. Cleopatra lived closer to the invention of the iPhone than she did to the construction of the pyramids. Even if you use the conventional 2500 BC dating of the construction of the pyramids, which is also under debate. It's under debate, yeah.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Even if that's true, even if it is 2,500 years ago, the most baffling thing is how did they do it? There's no simple answers. I don't give a fuck what anybody says. There's no simple answers. How did they do it? How did they have such incredible sophistication in their construction methods? How did they get those –

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massive 80 plus ton stones 500 miles down from the mountains with no equipment, no heavy machinery. Whatever they did, I think it's reasonable to say that in a different way, I don't think they had iPhones, I don't think they had email, but they were probably more sophisticated than us today in their ability to manipulate stone and make constructions.

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And the truth is it's very fascinating. Another thing that was very fascinating that he discussed, I didn't watch your whole video, but it was about seeds. I asked the question, there's a very distinct, noticeable difference between domestic seeds and seeds that are wild. And the difference is the seeds that are wild, they break off easier because it –

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

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What do you think of Christopher Dunn's work? Christopher Dunn came on the podcast and he explained his theory that he thinks the Great Pyramid of Giza was some sort of a power plant.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Using chemicals and creating hydrogen.

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it makes sense that it would help them prosper. It would help them be able to spread the seed if it broke off the plant easier. And so they can recognize that. And then when they start using large-scale agriculture, the seeds become more robust and stick to the plant because it makes sense that it would, if you're going to harvest all of the plants and then take the seeds off of it, for the plant,

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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This is a 3D print of one.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Yeah, this is a 3D print of an actual stone vase. And it might be like not that exciting to people like, oh, what's the big deal? What the big deal is the precision in which this was constructed with handles on it. So it couldn't have been spun on a lathe because it has these two handles that are also cut out of the stone.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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And everything is precise to within thousands of a human hair, which is bananas.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Now, there is some dispute of where these came from. There is some dispute about the – what is – have these been made in a modern way and has someone tried to replace – Are we looking at fakes or hoaxes?

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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The thing is, even if this was modern technology, we don't know what they did. No. We don't know what modern technology exists that you could take an incredibly hard piece of stone and cut it into this unbelievably precise little vase with handles on it.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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and some bizarre method that we don't know, and hollowed out the inside of it, and some of them with very thin necks, and then hollowed out inside. Like, how?

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Do you know what it's called? I can't remember. Jamie's a wizard at finding things.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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That looks like something I'd find on my Land Cruiser.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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We're finding a bit of something larger. Wow. That looks like, to me, like some part of some kind of machine. Yeah. That's the only thing that it looks like.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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That's exactly what it looks like. If you know like automobiles and parts and you look at something like that, like, oh yeah, that goes probably in there somewhere.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

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What is the conventional explanation of what this thing is?

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Click on that, the disc, that article. Oh, okay. The Sabu Disc, an ancient Egyptian artifact from the first dynasty, 3000 to 2800 BC, found in 1936 in North, how do you say that? Saqqara? Saqqara, yeah. Saqqara Necropolis in Mastaba?

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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I had never seen that before.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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the plant to prosper, you would want the seeds to be more robust. So there's these changes. And I said, have they ever noticed a domesticated seed going back and having the characteristics of a wild seed? He said, no. But that's not true either.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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So it's at least 3,000 years old. They think it was used in- 5,000 years old.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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They think it was used in brewing beer as a mash rake to mix and even out the mixture of grains and hot water in a big mash tun. I don't know what that means.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

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What is the mysterious Egyptian disk? It says it right there. That's it. Can we click on that? Can we go full scale on that so I can see what that looks like? Wow. That's wild. It really is. That is such a specific shape. Like, if you're going to just use that to make beer, it seems weird. And it's a lot of work to make beer. You could do it in other ways. That looks like some kind of a fan to me.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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It looks like something that would be on a belt. Yeah. You know, like on some sort of a...

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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It looks like a fan. It could be. It looks like those things underneath it. It looks like that's how you would funnel water or air through.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Yeah. Cut out of one piece of stone. How did you do that? And how are the measurements of that? Oh, look, it's Giorgio. He says it's aliens. I'm just going to guess. Is this thing that's cut out of this incredibly hard stone, like- Do they have any sort of a guess of how someone would cut something like that out of stone?

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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That doesn't look super precise in terms of the radius of it when you're looking at it. It looks handmade, doesn't it? I'm sure it is handmade. The question is how. Right, but you know what I'm saying? So are these vases, right? Yeah, yeah. But there's something about it that's like a little more crude.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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But it probably didn't have to be precise because whatever it did probably just had a spin. And it survived through at least 5,000 years. It definitely looks like it was something that spun, right? Because you have that hollowed out piece in the center that you would have an axle on or something along those lines.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

2984.255

Well, how do they weld stone? Apparently they carved that shape out of just one. That's crazy. Now that one looks ultra precise.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Well, go back to that one where it's spinning around. Yeah, look at it when it spins around. That looks pretty precise.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

3029.108

Well, also you've got to think, if it is made out of stone, some of the edges have to be beat up just from being in the ground for thousands of years.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Nah. You sure it's not just a different lighting?

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Right. That's smooth. That does look like a recreation, doesn't it?

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Put that back up. What are those things? Do you know what those are?

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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And that's one of the weirder things about Egypt, right? We don't think they had the wheel.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

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But I mean the people that built the pyramids. 2500 BC is not – like when do they think the wheel was invented?

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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I thought the conventional guess of when the invention of the wheel was was post the construction of the pyramids.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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It's so nuts. It doesn't even seem like a thousand years more advanced than us. It seems like thousands of years more advanced.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Yeah. If you think about it, there's so many mysteries to it. For anybody to pretend that they have all the answers to something as perplexing as Egypt.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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And they were documenting this journey to the afterlife. Absolutely. In hieroglyphs. And it's like, what were you documenting? How do you know? How did everyone agree on this particular myth or this story? I don't know.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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What do you think that they're trying to say?

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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I appreciate that he came on and I thought it was going to be an interesting discussion, but... It turned out he played fast and loose with the truth and distorted quite a bit of information that were some key points that you had discussed, one of them being the amount of shipwrecks that were discovered. He greatly inflated the amount of shipwrecks that had been discovered.

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Consciousness itself is so confusing. Just consciousness. Just like what is it and why are we conscious? Is it local or are we tuning into consciousness? And when you die, where does that go? Where does that energy go? Is a soul a real thing? Like what is the essence of life? What is the essence of human life and human consciousness? Those are perplexing questions.

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You know, it's just very unfortunate when you have a debate and one person is an expert and they're not truthful. This episode of the Joe Rogan Experience is brought to you by Call of Duty. You know, when a new Call of Duty drops, everyone's trying to find a way to squeeze in those extra hours of gameplay. I get it. Life is busy, but sometimes you just need it.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Well, it kind of makes sense, a natural selection of the souls. In a way. If there's natural selection of humans and natural selection of animals that allows them to prosper and to get better and to evolve, it makes sense that that would happen with the soul as well.

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I'm just so confused as to what the environment was like that allowed these people to keep this insane civilization developing and innovating for so long. That they were so more advanced than anyone else that was alive back then that we're aware of, at least as far as like what we've uncovered, what they left behind.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Yeah, but just the sophistication of the symmetry of the facial structure of the statues. Incredible.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Just bizarrely technologically advanced. Bizarrely. Because to perform something like that, you need incredible tools of measurement. Enormous statues that have faces that are absolutely perfectly symmetrical. How did you do that? How do you stand that up?

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Well, it seems that what they were dealing with in terms of the resources in the Nile Valley was unbelievably bountiful.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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And that's probably one of the reasons before the climate shifted and changed and it became a lot of desert. Before that, it was probably incredibly bountiful and that allowed them to stay there. for a long period of time and not have to worry about food.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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They find whale bones there. Whales. So anybody who doesn't think there's a mystery in the Sahara Desert, and anybody who really tries to dismiss the notion that most of it hasn't been really excavated, but it really hasn't been.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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And the excavation, like, you would have to... You're dealing with a place where how many people even live there?

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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What is your take on the Reichardt structure? Am I saying it right? Reichardt structure.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Also, the salt all around it?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Whether it shows that at one point in time it was probably submerged, like something happened?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Well, good for you. I like to spout it off. It's also like there's so many of those things that people thought were myth, like Troy.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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And they find it.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Well, regardless of the argument that Flint tried to put forth that there's no evidence of what you're saying, the exaggeration of the shipwrecks, the stuff about seeds, the fact is this resonates with a lot of people. This mystery is perplexing. It's confusing. And there's a lot of it out there. It's not like one site like Egypt. There's a ton of sites. Yeah. The Sage Wall in Montana.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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What do you think of that thing?

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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It is hard to resist the conclusion. I mean, it's super hard to resist the idea that that's man-made. And especially if it goes deeper under the ground. And they think it does. They think it goes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

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We just don't know yet What's crazy is if that is how old is that thing? How old is it? Who knows who knows and if you're talking about? Footprints of people that live 22,000 years ago. Yeah, like what were they making things like what?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Did they build something like that?

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Or even earlier.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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That's so awful. To deny anyone the ability to, especially we're going to put something like this on Netflix where millions of people are going to see it, deny people just the access through video of experiencing this site and the mystery that's attached to it. Like, who are these people? Why did they build this? What artifacts haven't been discovered that are inside of this thing?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Well, it's not unfortunate that there's a lot of people that are interested in it, though.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

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I wouldn't do it. Nope. Not now. No.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Now someone's going to know your exact DNA.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

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The whole thing's nuts. Like I didn't know that they could do that, but apparently they have. Not only that, databases get breached and they find your information.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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I agree. I mean, it's just disturbing how many times we can travel to ancient places like Greece or any place where you go to Rome and realize, oh, there's a thriving civilization here at one point. You were in Greece recently. Yeah, with Brian.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Brilliant guy. But what a treat it is to have a tour of the Parthenon, the Acropolis, with him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

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And, you know, we went to see the site of the Eleusinian Mysteries.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

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All that. It was very, very, very interesting, but just also sobering because you realize like this civilization did not make it. You know, this insane, fascinating, complex civilization crumbled. Yeah. And the idea that ours can't is one that we kind of hold dear. Like we're different. We got to figure it out. We're better.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

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But there's so much evidence that that's just a normal pattern of human history.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Yeah.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Yeah.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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I want to go. I want to go. I'll tell you about an idea that was brought to me after the show. I can't talk about it now.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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I'll tell you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

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I heard.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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You know, I imagine that as people get older and wiser and realize the folly of their ways, particularly in their youth, maybe he would be more open to the idea that the civilization is just this civilization, same civilization, but older than you think it is.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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I think people for a long time had this concept in their mind that changing the dates somehow negates the accomplishment of the people that lived in the prescribed date. You know, the somehow or another... The pushing it back. Yes, the pushing it back somehow or another. And they'll even say it's racist.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

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I agree with you. When you're talking about Gobekli Tepe, one of the things that Jimmy Corsetti has talked about recently in his YouTube show is that they have stopped excavation and they've planted trees above some of the areas, which is very strange. It is. And they want the excavation to resume in 150 years? Yes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

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So, what would be a logical reason to not excavate these fascinating ancient sites that are at least 11,000 years old?

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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When you say suspicious, like what would be the motivation for discontinuing that kind of excavation other than the fear of destroying things?

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Would also a conspiracy be that they had recognized that some of the area around Gobekli Tepe was older still, and they decided just the archaeologists didn't want to confront it, and they put a stop to it?

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Is the size and scale of Gobekli Tepe unique in comparison to the ones that are around it?

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Found anything there, Jamie? I can tell you the... So how much of that area where Gobekli Tepe has been searched with LIDAR? Here it is. Here's the images. Look at that. Wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

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How many of the areas have been searched with LIDAR?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

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You got to go back and forth?

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Kind of similar to the Easter Island heads. What's going on down there? It's a hog. What do you think it is? How weird are those structures? Yeah. You know, but like the way their hands are placed, it's kind of similar to the way the Easter Island hands are placed.

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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Okay. Pause, please. We'll pause. We'll be right back. All right. We're back.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

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So that particular image, is there any sort of a theory as to what they were trying, what that represented?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

5683.807

Keeping them from getting each other.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

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What's the last one from? Where's it from again?

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#2215 - Graham Hancock

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What do you think he's got in his hands?

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The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

5739.048

Right, but what is the thing on the left?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

5743.852

Very strange. Why does he have steps on his chest and a wheel? Like, what is that? You know, what is that spiral in the center of his body?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

5757.7

Bizarre, because look, there's a geometric pattern. It goes up and down with the steps, and it repeats on both corners, that one where it steps up and the other side where it steps down. Very strange.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

5776.297

Just very, very bizarre.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

5800.288

The area where the Olmec are, have there ever been LIDAR excavations or...

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

5844.904

So crazy that that stuff was there all along.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

5861.46

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

59.306

You released a video today that went over a lot of this stuff. And one of the things that went over is the oldest shipwreck that we are currently available. It's about 4,000 years old?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

5903.613

How much of the Amazon has been explored with LiDAR?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

5938.3

That would be incredible. Just imagine what's out there.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

5947.546

Where specifically do they think that lost city of Z was? And did they try to explore that yet?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

595.388

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The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

5978.732

God, it seems like that has to be discovered. I mean, that has to be looked at. Just specifically, if we could just find that the lost city of Z was a real place.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

5992.338

I mean, just finding lost city of Z is a legendary scene in the Amazon rainforest and British explorer Percy Harrison Fawcett. Mato Grosso. Mato Grosso. In Brazil, yeah. Theorized that the city was a refuge for people fleeing the destruction of Atlantis. Whoa. And its wisdom could still be found there. Wow. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6.216

Showing by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. What's happening? Good to see you too, Joe. I watched episode one and I'm into episode two of your new season. Looks fantastic. Looks awesome. Fantastic information. But before we do anything, I think we should probably address what we know now about the debate that you had with Flint Dibble. So that was the last time we were here.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6016.02

I bet.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6020.143

Maybe a bunch, yeah. At the very least, it's clear that not enough is known.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6098.7

You can't be responding to the haters all the time. It's a bad word. But they include archaeologists. I know. But the reality is most people aren't listening anymore.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6106.043

I don't think that's working anymore because I think enough people have seen your work and enough people have heard you talk and they know that you're reasonable and intelligent and that there's something there. And the more people look at these images and the more people hear, people like Flint just out and out lie to try to dismiss these things.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6159.283

Well, that's the beautiful thing about the Internet. There's a lot of people out there that are very invested in these ideas and exploring them. And they also find it very uncomfortable that they're being confronted by these scholars, these people that are supposed to be the ones that are –

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6177.097

The experts in this area that are dismissing things that shouldn't be dismissed, that are lying about statistics, just try to diffuse your argument.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6195.632

Right. And they think that somehow or another that exploring these ideas dismisses the legitimate work that archaeologists have already done, which I don't think it does at all.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

624.167

It is, because it reinforces all the things that you've been saying.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6262.455

Well, in some places that's your only option, like the Olmec culture where we don't know. We have these faces that don't look like – I mean it's confusing. They look like maybe they're from Polynesia, maybe they're from Africa.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6322.054

Well, my concern with that line of thinking is that we've seen evidence of that sort of destruction of the real history of people in America with how they forced Native Americans onto reservations and spoke – forced them into speaking English and forced them into learning Christianity.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6338.782

That we – there was a concerted effort to erase their history and their culture and that the conquerors imposed that on the people that were there.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6391.966

So it's possibly a myth of people that came over on ships that look different.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6400.573

When you hear about things like the lost city of Z, when you hear about all the different times where European explorers did make it to the Americas and spread their diseases, like, well, you're going to miss from those folks too. So who's to think that there wasn't multiple versions of that that happened all throughout history? Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6418.045

If it happened in the 1400s, it would probably happen a long, long time ago as well.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6423.747

The whole thing is so interesting and it never ends. And every now and again, a new discovery comes along that pushes back the date of humans in specific areas. I mean, look at the Denisovans. They only found out about them in like, what, 2010 or something like that?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6445.152

So a whole new branch. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6452.978

Oh, I know what I wanted to bring up to you today because I saw this online. Maybe you could find it before I pull it up, Jamie, because you're that good. But there's a scientist that believes there's reason to believe that those Hobbit people on the island of Flores, that they exist currently. So this was...

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6475.089

Yeah, the hobbit-like species of early humans may still be living in the jungles of Indonesia.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6481.771

Yeah. Well, that's another branch of the human chain. When did they find out about this? It wasn't that long ago either.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6494.534

Very, very recent discovery. I wonder what this, the latest find is public on Tuesday, Journal of Nature Communications following the 2016 discovery of tiny arm bone and teeth. There's something that these people are considering. I don't know why. Is there any article that says they consider they're still alive today? That's what this one is? But that one, no.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6521.934

Yeah, this is it. Okay. Someone sent this to me. Yeah. So why do they think that there's might still roam? Well, this is just because of anecdotal stories, right? Because there have been multiple stories that people that live in the deep rainforest have said that they've encountered these.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6556.488

Especially small populations of them that are very remote and very difficult to get. There were reports of sighting by more than 30 eyewitnesses, all of whom I spoke with directly, and I conclude the best way to explain that they told me what they told me is a non-sapiens hominin has survived on Flores to the present or very recent times. Fascinating. Yeah. I would love to hear their stories. Oh.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6580.674

Maybe AI could decipher their language. Imagine they found them. You know how nutty it would be if they found a little three-foot-tall hairy human being that's still alive? Oh, my goodness.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6596.802

Well, it's a good thing to do if you have a good theory. Write a book.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6602.565

I know what you're saying. Yeah. I hope it's true. Of course. Of course. Of course. Because it's fun.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6609.13

It's fun to hope it's true. All of it's fun.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6661.7

I was going to say that earlier when you were talking about how you've never taken a vacation. I'm like, Well, you haven't, but your whole life's a vacation.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6689.793

Oh, no, it most certainly has. It most certainly has. You know, I first found out about you because of Fingerprints of the Gods. And one of the things that I found most fascinating when I started going into your work was the idea that the Ark of the Covenant exists in Ethiopia.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6709.44

That story is so nuts, and it sounds so ridiculous, and people go, what? The Ark of the Covenant's real? But then when you go into the history of these people that lived there, and they all suffered radiation poisoning, and it's like, wait a minute.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6866.669

And no one is going in there and trying to get to the bottom of it? They won't let you? They won't let you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6875.118

It seems like someone should go look. What the hell is that? What's in there? I mean, if we really find out the Ark of the Covenant was an actual object. I think it was an actual object. And you think it was some nuclear something or another?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6962.575

Did you bring a Geiger counter? No.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6966.856

Imagine what was going nuts.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

6970.377

I mean, it's not like it's going to be, if it's radioactive, it's not like it's going to be contained just this one small area. You're going to have traces of it that leak out. That's true. Especially if people are getting cataracts from being in the room with it. Yeah. And so three different people you talk to have cataracts from that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

7005.144

Did he describe what it looked like, like the outside of it? Gold. Gold. Gold.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

7049.353

That one to me is just like we know where it is. That one to me is so crazy that someone is keeping that information from the rest of the humans. Because if we found out the Ark of the Covenant was in fact a real object and we know where it is and it does match the description of the Bible, that kind of changes everything. Now all of a sudden the Bible is not just stories and myths.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

7070.855

The Bible is some sort of a historical record.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

7096.167

So when you're doing season two, what did you learn from doing season one that you applied to season two? Was there anything different about the way you went about it?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

712.762

Well, it's also one of the things that's fascinating is just even with conventional archaeology, the dates keep getting pushed further and further back.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

72.316

But there's nothing left of the ship. And this is what's important. What he was trying to say was that it would be preserved by the cold water. That turns out to not be the truth at all. And that these ships that are 6,000 years old, there's nothing left of the actual boat itself. The only thing that's left is pottery and coins and things of the like.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

721.414

And this is one of the things, the White Sands, New Mexico stuff that you have on episode one.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

7248.453

So if the Easter Island, if the island was settled at least 3,000 years ago, do we know where from?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

7447.495

And this script, can we see what it looks like? Can you find the Easter Island script, Jamie?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

7458.261

One of the things that's interesting about AI is that they believe that AI is going to be able to determine or decipher, rather, a bunch of different things that we currently can't.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

7469.387

Oh, wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

7482.647

Look at that. That's so strange.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

7522.069

Wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

7523.21

But in a language that we don't know.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

7542.225

How did they decipher cuneiform? Cuneiform.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

7600.204

So the Easter Island, these enormous statues, one of the things they found, and I don't know when they started doing this, they dug deeper and deeper and deeper and found out that the heads that are above the surface are just a tiny part of it. So do you think that it's just natural erosion that covered up everything else?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

7617.93

I think it's a very complicated issue.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

765.805

Is that the same stuff they use for like gypsum board for construction?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

7689.726

Put that image back up again, please. So how much time do you think – I mean has there been speculation like about just natural layers of sediment being dropped down? How long would it take to cover something like that?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

769.526

Wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

7735.689

Is Robert Shock declining because of the criticism that he received about the Temple of the Sphinx? I'm not sure why.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

7783.43

What year did he do the podcast, Jamie? He did our podcast back in the day. I want to say it was around 2015, 2016. Six years ago? Okay. Okay. So 2018, maybe that's why he stopped being your friend.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

780.151

So it looked incredible. So they found footprints there, and these are absolutely human footprints, and there's not just a few of them. There's thousands of them.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

7811.169

You're a nice guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

7845.542

Why are they mutually exclusive?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

7905.697

Well, I'm assuming, I shouldn't be assuming, but I'm assuming it's the criticism. He probably wants to keep his job and he said everything he wants to say.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

7929.079

Oh, I hope he still loves you. I hope so, too. Has anybody speculated about how much time it would take to cover those Easter Island statues with sediment?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

7942.427

30 feet of dirt.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

7954.595

What did that island signify? Why did they do that?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

8143.53

How could they even know that that was happening? By what method could they make those calculations that the Earth wobbles on its axis every 26,000 years?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

8159.159

And then extrapolate the wobble?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

8273.186

I think we also, when we talk about ancient people studying the sky, we think of the sky today. And our sky, unfortunately, is burdened by light pollution almost everywhere. Anywhere there's civilization, it's very difficult to see the stars.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

8287.613

Whereas they had none of that, and they were in constant awe of this thing that they could see every night. And they probably had a very detailed understanding of where everything was.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

8302.28

Because we don't have access to it unless you're in like deep wilderness and with a clear night sky.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

8316.691

Bizarre. Yeah. It's a bizarre detachment that is propagated by technology. Oh, yeah. Very, very much so. Very weird, right? Because it's actually dangerous for us. Yeah. Because I think it makes us disconnected from the idea that we're connected totally to the universe and that feeling of awe that you get when you see a completely star-filled night

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

8337.273

I've talked about this before, but I'll say it again. I was in the observatory in the Big Island, Hawaii. And when you go up to the Keck Observatory, the sky, you go through the clouds. And when you get up to the top and you look, you can't believe that you could see it. You can't believe. I've been there three times. three, four times. Only once did we really catch it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

8360.81

The last time was pretty good, but one time we caught it perfectly where there was no moon in the sky and the sky was completely clear and it was astounding. Astounding, yeah. you feel like it's a windshield and you are on a spaceship and you're flying through deep space. You see stars everywhere.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

8378.238

We're in a convertible. We're in a convertible spaceship flying through the universe. That's really what it is. And you don't see it every day because of light pollution. And I think it's one of the most... It's one of the saddest things about our culture.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

8391.831

It's incredible that you can go out at night and you can see and drive and go to your favorite restaurant and go to the movies and all kinds of nice stuff. But what we're trading off is literally our connection to this insanely beautiful thing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

8408.286

that hypnotizes you with its awe. If you get to go camping on a night where you see everything, it's incredible. It's one of the greatest things you could ever see. And it used to be there for everybody. And it used to be how they lived their life.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

8484.502

What is the oldest version of astrology that we have?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

8559.66

Yeah, it's... I've always been fascinated by astrology, not like the newspaper astrology, like, you're a Cancer, so that means this. But the idea that the time you were born, the place on Earth you were born, where you were conceived, all these play a factor in your personality and that this was somehow or another mapped out by people thousands and thousands of years ago.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

8585.087

I know a lot of people like to dismiss it as myth, and I've been one of those people, but part of me wonders if there is some sort of an impact that, look, we know that the gravity from the moon affects the tides. We know that we're mostly water. We know that there's some sort of an effect that planets and gravity and stars... must have on the entirety of the universe.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

8607.769

And the idea that these very bizarre biological entities, that their personalities and their existence is in some way motivated, shaped, or at least influenced by the position in the stars in which they were born is very interesting. Because people studied that shit for a long time. If there was nothing to it, Why have so many generations of people studied it? I think it's a good question.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

8635.423

And what was the root of it? Like, how the hell did they figure that out?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

8675.023

Yeah, it does make sense, but I've never heard anybody explain it. Have you ever talked to like a legitimate, air quotes, astrologer? No, I haven't.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

8722.614

And so is it generally agreed that there is a connection between the methods or the design of the construction and the correlation between star systems? I don't follow the question quite. Is it agreed by archaeologists that the reason why these things are constructed in a very specific direction and in a very specific design, that it is mirroring the cosmos?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

8837.268

Which also means that there would have been a line 35,000 years ago as well.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

8844.594

Then the Sphinx is another one of those, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

8879.317

I recommend that to everybody, that Magical Egypt, the two DVD series that he had. They're amazing. My wife hated them. Because I was watching him so often. He watched this Egypt thing again. I couldn't stop. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

8902.635

Well, that's what aligned so interestingly with Robert Shock's – analysis of the water erosion. This is thousands of years of rainfall.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

8977.043

I also thought it was really fascinating that he showed images, cropped images of this water erosion to other geologists. Neil agreed it was water erosion until they figured out where it was. There you go. And they were like, I'm not signing off on that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

8990.809

Because it's just too controversial.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

8994.671

And go on to your career.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

8998.152

Well, we are very fortunate that you're out there, buddy. Thank you. We really are. Thank you. And I love your show. I love you. You're always fun to talk to.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

9008.836

Please.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

9045.337

That's a good place for it, all those freaks.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

9183.831

Shout out to Keanu. He seems like an awesome guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

9189.878

There he is. There's two of you together. Yep, yep. All right, Graham. It's always a pleasure. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you very much.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

9197.948

All right. This episode of the Joe Rogan Experience is brought to you by Call of Duty. You know, when a new Call of Duty drops, everyone's trying to find a way to squeeze in those extra hours of gameplay. I get it. Life is busy, but sometimes you just need it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

9273.214

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The Joe Rogan Experience

#2215 - Graham Hancock

947.782

Well, what I was going to ask is, as they're digging deeper and deeper and they're finding these footprints in White Sands, New Mexico, is there a possibility that they could dig deeper still and find things that are even older? Yes, absolutely. How do they know where to go?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2322 - Rebecca Lemov

4182.535

Oh, jolly.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2322 - Rebecca Lemov

4307.474

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2322 - Rebecca Lemov

4788.583

Oh, boy. Wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2322 - Rebecca Lemov

6.215

Showing by day. Joe Rogan Podcast by night. All day.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2322 - Rebecca Lemov

615.193

Oh, for sure.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2322 - Rebecca Lemov

618.594

Yeah?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2322 - Rebecca Lemov

7050.395

He had a tumor, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2322 - Rebecca Lemov

7118.47

Wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2322 - Rebecca Lemov

7488.779

How did it flatter you?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2322 - Rebecca Lemov

7548.813

Really?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2322 - Rebecca Lemov

7658.849

Oh my God. Oh, my God.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2322 - Rebecca Lemov

8569.54

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2322 - Rebecca Lemov

9094.923

Oh, wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2303 - Dave Smith & Douglas Murray

10646.511

No, it's to sniff.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2303 - Dave Smith & Douglas Murray

1233.359

Well, it took four years. It took four years. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2303 - Dave Smith & Douglas Murray

1434.001

Lots of people have written and spoken about that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2303 - Dave Smith & Douglas Murray

1438.765

He is allowed to.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2303 - Dave Smith & Douglas Murray

2221.653

This is the thing, Joe.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2303 - Dave Smith & Douglas Murray

2458.709

No, I'm saying, this is my point about this. You say, I'm not an expert. So what's the solution? To not talk about it? No, it's to have more experts around.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2303 - Dave Smith & Douglas Murray

3680.993

That's true.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2303 - Dave Smith & Douglas Murray

387.045

Look, these guys are not historians. They're not knowledgeable about anything.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2303 - Dave Smith & Douglas Murray

391.652

No, but then why listen to their views on Churchill?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2303 - Dave Smith & Douglas Murray

396.139

He's not. He's not. Why do you say that?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2303 - Dave Smith & Douglas Murray

458.986

He's not just asking questions, and is he nobody?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2303 - Dave Smith & Douglas Murray

8207.447

I'm not claiming that the health ministry's numbers are perfect.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2303 - Dave Smith & Douglas Murray

8618.802

Yeah, but hang on. You've made this point a lot of times, but OK.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2303 - Dave Smith & Douglas Murray

9125.655

No. Hang on, hang on, hang on.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2303 - Dave Smith & Douglas Murray

9146.098

It's other people who have actions in the world. The Russians, the revolutionary government in Iran, they are so busy in the region.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2303 - Dave Smith & Douglas Murray

9361.828

There are so many people who outwit America in the Middle East all the time.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2303 - Dave Smith & Douglas Murray

9629.459

What, we did Somalia and Sudan?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2303 - Dave Smith & Douglas Murray

9731.917

No, fire on.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2303 - Dave Smith & Douglas Murray

9796.911

Why would they want the current situation in Libya?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2303 - Dave Smith & Douglas Murray

9844.506

Hang on, hang on. Unutterably disastrous for Europe. I agree with you. And Somalia and Sudan, why does America or Israel want to... Do regime change in Somalia?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2269 - Bret Weinstein

1480.115

Yeah. Wild times. Just wild. Like what a fun time to be alive. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2269 - Bret Weinstein

1683.63

That's you, Alex. That's your dad. This is crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2269 - Bret Weinstein

2364.899

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2269 - Bret Weinstein

2586.776

I do now that you mentioned it. Hurricanes can only get vaccinated.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2269 - Bret Weinstein

2592.783

Everything's harder for that vaccine.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2269 - Bret Weinstein

2660.47

And you were banned on Twitter.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2269 - Bret Weinstein

2802.646

Well, Tulsi got put on a terrorist watch list. Of course. Which is fucking crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2269 - Bret Weinstein

3779.085

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2269 - Bret Weinstein

4922.429

Stock market.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2269 - Bret Weinstein

5500.46

Why?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2269 - Bret Weinstein

5696.883

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2269 - Bret Weinstein

6783.67

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2269 - Bret Weinstein

7867.629

Okay.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2269 - Bret Weinstein

9541.299

Bye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

10231.596

Ooh, wow. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

1025.336

Right before the pandemic. What is it? March 7, 2020. There you go.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

10423.082

Right, right, right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

10889.35

Oh, really?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

11510.467

Yeah. Hong Kong and Sydney are the only two.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

11520.777

Well, listen, brother. Anything else you want to talk about before we bail out of here? I think it was a good one.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

11525.382

Yeah. A lot of fun. Yeah. Thanks for having me, man. I appreciate you as always. What's that, Jamie? The Miss Olympia wellness we missed out on. What's that? A focus on the lower body.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

11535.672

Yeah. Top half doesn't matter. Oh, yeah. So I was going to say.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

11570.436

Oh, that's weird.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

1549.739

Really? Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

2137.121

And right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

225.065

Oh, yeah, that's nuts. $40 million. And she's a virgin, I guess, and she doesn't post sex stuff.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

298.376

Yeah, I mean, what's that much? Six figures or millions or? No, like even less. Like most of them make a few thousand dollars a month. I think so. I think out of this 43, one guy paid her five million, she said.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

3077.624

That's weird. What a weird body part.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

3824.518

Some people think it was because those guys got away, but it was because it was too expensive to continue operating.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

3834.025

I don't even think they had that many prisoners there.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

43.771

He's the CEO of their insurance unit, which I don't know what the difference is and what people will hurt. He's the CEO.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

4686.992

I take those two. It's 1.5 per gummy, I think.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

5609.964

The story I could find, this is November 6th.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

5618.47

No, I know. I was looking for any story about it, having updated information. This was the most recent story was written. And anything else was from October where it was saying that she was not.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

5634.958

It was about the claims that they were stripped of their title or their gold medal. Oh, well, that's not true.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

5642.242

So if they're suing over that, they can actually win that lawsuit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

5677.286

That's what this has to do with, I think.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

615.762

Yeah, it's the same amount that people that are above are going to be below. It's like a standard deviation of averages and stats.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

691.347

I know the girl you're talking about, but I didn't know she did something with the UFC.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

6943.493

Wow. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

702.997

Hold on a second.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

709.243

Okay. What?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

7334.43

Mm-hmm.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

75.207

It's got to be. The investor meeting has now been canceled, obviously, so that was maybe the goal.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

7941.15

After he's thrown out, he can jump, which is not much.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

7951.08

It's like week by week, I think.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

7976.759

Look at his legs. That's so crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

8503.629

It's a minute. I got Volkov was three minutes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

8542.351

Click on that. No, but it's going to be a small. Just click on it. I can't control this.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

8545.792

That's fine.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

10154.975

Fuck off.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

10317.875

Headshot dead. Look at me now. Look at me now. What a speech that was.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

10343.752

Come on, Rocky. Don't let him bully you, son. Fuck, dude. Don't let him bully you. Wild.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

10352.834

Dude.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1128.434

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1132.816

IBJJF. Tests?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

11596.15

One hand.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

11626.166

What a performance.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

11841.954

They have to explode, they have to move quickly.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1326.957

Brendan?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1329.879

Oh, my God. No, I know some guys.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1335.903

That's really good.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1423.666

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1486.634

Triangle right here. Oh, look at this. Pull that head down. He sticks to the head, just concentrates on the head. You might be able to get it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1549.767

Yeah, Elvis Sinisek. Oh, that's right. He was the first one. He was the first one. Elvis. That's when no one really thought it was, like, no one really even noticed it. Because you're taught, you only triangle your legs when there's one arm in, one arm out. Not when there's two arms in.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1564.61

But his legs are so long, he armbarred Jeremy Horn. And then when you look at it, you're like, yo. He's triangling his legs and he has both arms in. Whoa, that's kind of a freak thing. And we just thought it was a freak thing. And then Nathan Orchard and Brian Debs, two of my guys, they just started doing it all the time. They go, do we do this all the time? I go, really? You're doing triangle?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1587.074

You've got to have long legs. You've got to have long legs. If you have short legs, you've got to do a Mexican dead orchard. That's what I do. You've got to do a lot of extra labor. There's a lot of extra stuff you got to do to pull it off.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1599.316

You got to do a lot of stuff. You got to go invisible collar to muddy waters and then Mexican dead. There's a lot of stuff. Because if you have long hair or long... If you're a heavy metal dude, if you have long legs and you're on the bottom... depending on how you match up with the guy, he can get dead orchard. You can triangle your legs with his arms in a perfect defensive position.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1620.03

And a lot of times people get surprised. Like, what the fuck happened? How did he triangle his legs? They don't understand. But if you have short legs in the guys like this, or just regular legs, there's no way you're going to be able to triangle your legs with both arms in. You need one arm in, one arm out.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1634.06

So with both arms in, the only way a Mexican or a Chinese guy could do a dead orchard is you've got to have this arm down, and this arm like this. Like this, now I could triangle my legs. You gotta do a lot of work. You gotta get the hand on the mat, and then you gotta get his elbow in. There's a lot of stuff. It's super complicated.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1653.494

Dead orchards are not the greatest thing for... And you gotta be super flexible. Super flexible, and you gotta put a lot of time into it. But if you have long legs... You should be doing Dead Orchards. It's by far the number one armbar in the guard, no gi, and there's not even a close second.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1669.687

Really?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1671.429

One of my black belts has 84 Dead Orchards, and his student, who's a purple bot, has 34 Dead Orchards in competition. Who has that many orchards? Chris Vickers from 10th Planet Walnut Creek. That's crazy. That's crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1682.578

and dead or uh there's they they happen all the goddamn time ben eddie got uh uh um wilson hayes in in a combat jiu jitsu match he got him in a dead orchard and wilson hayes is high level black but he just fought mighty mouse for the title a month before that's high level yeah you know but you know but for girls Girls proportionally have longer legs than guys and more narrow shoulders.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1707.569

So if you're a girl out there and you're fighting MMA and you don't have a dead orchard in your game, you're missing out. Girls can do dead orchards at a higher level or a higher rate than guys, for sure, just because of the body type.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1732.867

There's so few fighters with dangerous guards in MMA.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1736.692

Fabricio was one.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1840.292

Gordon, in your opinion, what's the best leg lock for MMA? Best leg lock position. You're training someone. He wants to learn leg locks. What do you think?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1854.682

Or Inside Sengaku?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1864.647

It seems like anything on the outside, it turns the guy and he really can't hit you. Because really it's about being safe from striking. And 50-50, I think everyone agrees. You see 50-50 in MMA and it works, but you can still reach the guy's face, but you can't really hit him that hard.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1885.126

That's the worst one.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1925.665

So if this leg was reaping, this foot would be on the outside, right? Like this?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1931.977

We call that the Indian. Yeah, exactly like that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1943.3

Basically, anytime you reap, which is that left leg going on the inside, makes it hard for the guy to hit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1950.842

so most people think oh all leg locks don't work in mma you're gonna get smashed that's not true some leg locks will save your ass there was a fight in the ufc some brazilian guy forget it was an ultimate fighter he was on his back getting walloped and the guy was like had a horse stance on top of him against the cage and was throwing down and that brazilian just jumped jumped on a on a knee bar a knee bar attempt and that saved him because now he can't now he's punching his ass

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1977.956

And then from the knee bar he got knocked down on his back or on his butt And then I turned around jumped on his back and choked him out Yeah, I don't think you're seeing a lot of heel hooks because a lot of guys just aren't very efficient They're not focusing on it Ryan Hall was one of the first to come in and really do some damage with leg locks Yeah, he got BJ Penn pretty quick.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2023.47

So basically double outside ashi. What do you guys call double outside ashi?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2027.591

That's the worst one.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2032.352

You either get that heel hook quick or you're going to take some damage.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2048.203

You going over leg locks with Jon Jones? Is he pretty good at them now?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2065.151

Yeah, yeah. The first time I met him, it was his first fight when he fought Stefan Bonner. And we were at, it was in Boston, and we were at a boxing gym. And I was just hanging out with you because you were taking a private with, who was the guy from Amsterdam that you were taking privates?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2080.559

Rob Kamen?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2082.039

It was either Shuki or Rob Kamen. It was one of them. We were in some random boxing gym in Boston. And I was just sitting on the ring. It must have been Rob if we were in Boston.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2091.704

awesome waiting waiting for you to be done and then no one knew who john jones was it was his first fight he's sitting there and um he comes up to me and he and he asked for advice he goes what do you think uh you know you got any advice for me and i like i didn't know and he was fighting stephen bonner and i thought oh they're feeding stephen bonner some new guy he's like i felt bad for john jones so what i told him is is there's two kinds of wrestlers that uh

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2116.63

coming to MMA. Wrestlers that love jiu-jitsu and wrestlers that want to beat jiu-jitsu. I go, don't be one of those wrestlers that wants to beat jiu-jitsu. Fall in love with it. Fall in love with submissions because the guys that want to beat it, they never last. They're eventually going to get taken out.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2136.071

The scariest jiu-jitsu guys, for the most part, are guys that wrestle their whole life, and then they fall in love with jiu-jitsu, and they love pulling guard and all that. Oh, scary.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2151.382

He's a fucking savage. Vitor. How did that Stefan Bonner fight? He beat the shit out of him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2165.954

When we were at the roof of the hotel?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2200.144

Not a slimy guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2312.274

I forget. Spinning back kick to the body. Yeah. I never told you this, but I was actually there. Oh, you were there? I flew in with the guys from CPI. Why didn't you tell me you were there? Because you're so busy. You know what I mean? And then I was with a big group. And what am I going to do? I'm like, you know what? You had so much shit going on. And so Ed Clay from CPI calls me up.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2337.3

He goes, hey, you want me to pick you up in my private jet and go to see Tyson fight in Dallas? And then we fly and go see Jon Jones fight.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2350.255

No one's actually said no. Did you really?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2355.819

My kid had baseball all weekend. Baseball, fuck yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2358.481

So I said, damn.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2359.461

Because he asked me, this was on, we were going to leave on Thursday or Friday morning or Thursday. It was like Tuesday. And I'm like, yo, what? No one's ever asked. I've never had that offer ever. Let me go pick you up in the private. Pick me up in Van Nuys Airport. And then we go to Dallas. And then we go to New York. And I said, dude, I can't. I can't. And then I told my wife.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2385.337

And my wife goes, are you fucking retarded? You call his ass back. You fucking go on. And I go, okay. The kids, I called back.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2398.697

Yeah, yeah. And, you know, to be honest with you, dude, I've been to a million UFCs. Like, I'd rather watch it at home or with my buddies. Because we have UFC parties at the gym. And, you know. That's funner to me than to sit live to tell you the truth.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2415.212

This is my favorite way. But when we were there, dude, I was just watching the whole Trump thing go on. You see RFK, Tulsi Gabbard.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2427.162

And I was just sitting there going, fuck.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2429.164

you're there I'm like dude this is a good time for the deep state to fucking send a missile to Madison Square Garden it would solve all their problems dude there was like 47 checkpoints and then I see Trump come up I saw the whole fucking thing Trump walking straight to you and gave you a big fucking hug and he's whispering sweet nothings in your ear I'm like holy they're like this shit right here

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2457.182

I was like, what the fuck? He goes right to you, man. Look at that. He didn't want to talk to John Adick. He was going right to you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2480.58

Damn. How crazy is this? Right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2484.602

And then John Jones wins and then does the dance?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2490.604

Dude, that day.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2492.044

That day was insane.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2495.766

For the world. That's like world history shit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2500.247

It was. They could put that whole event in some book.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2505.649

Correct.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2507.67

A lot of football players. Yeah. That's amazing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2573.1

Oh, shit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2575.122

He's got to do a drunk Trump. Trump has never been drunk ever in his life. Can you imagine if Trump was drunk on Twitter? Can you imagine the drunk tweets he would send?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2588.976

Who's that? Fiona Davies.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2596.462

Holy shit, man. Dude, the first time I saw her, she was an EBI. She was a purple belt, and she went against... Her first round match was against Talita Alankar, who was a black belt world champion. I gave Talita... Like, oh, you're going to get a purple belt. You get the low seat. So it was like an easy ride. And I'm sitting there and I'm reffing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

260.374

Do they still do that in one?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2613.917

And I'm like, oh, Talita's going to kill this little Irish girl. And dude, Fionn was all over her. Took her back and almost finished her. And I'm like, oh my God. And the only reason I put her in there was because Keith Krikorian, he sent me a message. He goes, yo, there's this...

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2628.152

there's this chick fiona davis you got to throw her in i go okay whatever i'll take that advice but talita ended up winning she ended up getting her back at the end and winning but it was scary for a second and that was as a purple belt as a purple belt she almost beat a world champion this dude looks like he's had a hard life he's tatted up like a machine gun yeah i don't know these guys

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2712.234

When I stand next to Islam... And how about Gleason Tabau?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2716.078

That guy walked around at 250. That was back in the day, though. No fat. That was back in the day, though. I think he has the... Can't do that now.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2898.895

Yeah. You were going to do combat jiu-jitsu, too. It was going to be him against Fabricio Verdum. Combat jiu-jitsu. Whoa.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2910.359

Take my money.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

2913.7

And then Fabricio got hurt, too. So they both dropped out. It was going to happen. Fabrizio's in GFL, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

3013.114

How do they determine that?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

3033.089

That's different. If they split the profit, what if they don't make any profits?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

3127.437

And honestly, I've never been this ill for this long in my life, and I hate it. I feel useless, and it's depressing. I feel like I've let so many people down. I haven't been able to post any YouTube videos to help promote the fight because I've just been feeling some shit. I'm just sick of being sick, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

3161.366

Is that for snoring? In what way?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

32.099

What time was it in the UK when they said this?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

3201.376

Yeah. So it sticks better.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

3264.309

Wasn't he like in the front line in World War I? Oh, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

3411.174

It took them a week to figure that out? Weren't they involved? No.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

3435.769

Did you hear that phone call from Lyndon B. Johnson to the wife a month later?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

3470.968

Didn't he have an affair with Marilyn Monroe? Oh, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

3512.817

Oh, no proof.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

3670.157

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

4242.323

You think they're going to start making less electric vehicles now that Trump's in?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

4337.067

Why not just get a new battery or something?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

437.575

Is it illegal to have a finish bonus in the UFC? Like, you get paid whatever, $80,000 to show, $80,000 to win, and then another $80,000 if you finish the fight.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

4423.787

Isn't there something about like, you know. all the radiation, you're in the car, and it's like you're surrounded by 5G?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

4484.443

Fat liberals. Just... Have you seen those Tesla mini homes? They're never in shape.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

4501.775

Have you seen those Tesla mini homes? No. Oh, you haven't seen them?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

4507.084

Dude, Tesla has tiny homes. They're like trailers, but like super high-tech with solar panels.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

4515.948

Have you seen those? But not the Tesla ones. Tesla has one? Tesla's got mini homes. No shit. Have you seen this, Jamie? The mini homes?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

4525.212

The one that I've seen, I just saw it a couple days ago. It's Tesla.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

456.986

Yeah, they would help a little bit. Or go gangster and go, you know, you have show money and then you get extra money, like, you know, double, but you have to knock them out or submit them. Otherwise, you just get your show money.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

4573.409

No, I know about that. Like, that's real, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

4591.099

No, it was a pod, like an egg.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

4637.675

Lights everywhere.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

4643.258

That's not a panty dropper.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

4704.297

He brought up the Shroud of Turin and I always thought that was fake like in the 80s. What is that? The Shroud it's like the cloth that Jesus was buried in and left an image of And in the 80s like 1988 they did carbon dating on it. They go. It's fake see that the

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

471.281

Oh, really?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

471.921

Okay. I think that's a good idea.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

4726.948

I never looked into it. I just figured it was fake. But listening to you and Mel Gibson talk about it, I'm like, what? It's real?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

4748.066

Yeah, and the one thing, it's the most studied artifact ever. Damn. Particle physicists, nuclear engineers, they all studied it. Some believe in it, some don't believe in it, but they all agree on one thing. No one knows anything. How they did it. Right. There's no one else. There's no paint. There's no dye. So, dude, all this week, dude, all day.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

4772.87

I'm just watching documentary after after podcast on this shit. It's mind blowing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

4794.38

They all agree on that. It wasn't burned in. They all agree it's a mystery. But then the skeptics say, just because we don't know how it was done doesn't make it real, which is a good point. But then the other side is like, dude, all these scientists have no idea how they faked it. It's got to be real. So it's all about how you look at it. I lean on the side to be real. There's a nuclear engineer.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

48.784

Have you seen any of these guys?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

4814.953

That would be the most fun. There's a nuclear engineer. You can go on YouTube. His name is Robert Rucker. Watch his breakdown. This guy's a nuclear dude. He's breaking down the photo. It's insane because it's a negative image on a non-photographic material. It's linen.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

4833.385

And then it turns out like if you look at it with the naked eye, it's white. And then you see the image of the face is kind of like yellow. You can barely see it. But in like 1898, some photographer took a picture of it and then flip and then looked at the negative. And then all of a sudden in the negative.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

4849.727

The whole body appears, front and back, because he was buried with the sheet under him and it went around his head. That's the back of him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

4871.482

That was the thing with Jesus, with me, it's very hard. It was always very hard to believe in Jesus. I'm like, dude, the resurrection? That's a hard one to wrap your brain around, right? I could believe that he existed. I could believe that he got crucified. A lot of people got crucified. But the resurrection was always the thing that kept me from really believing in Jesus.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

4896.522

No, the thing is how the image got on. The people that believe that it's real believe that when he was resurrected, some kind of ultraviolet radiation, some kind of burst made that image because that image has never been on any other shroud. People get buried in shrouds all the time. There's never an image like that. Pretty crazy. And the crazy thing is the blood. There's no image under the blood.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

4921.648

So the blood was there first, and then the image is after. It's crazy shit. Dude, I'm like, I went deep down a rabbit hole all week just watching the skeptics, the scientists, particle physicists, they have no idea how the fuck that image got on the front and back, the back of them too. It's pretty weird.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5060.431

Remember your bit where you said, I bet people used to be really smart, but the dumb people just out-fucked the smart people, penned the one at a staggering pace. Remember that shit?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5070.374

Man, I mean, the pyramids, for sure, are a mystery. Like, how the fuck did they build those? And now finding out what's underneath them, like, fuck, who knows? Gobekli Tepli. There's all these mysterious...

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5085.277

uh architecture everywhere yeah but it's everywhere everywhere everywhere every city like these cathedrals like think about power tools were invented in the 1890s and they're talking about these insane cathedrals all over the world carved out of stone With no power tools?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5103.759

How the fuck did they build?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5122.456

And they're everywhere, dude.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5124.358

South America, Asia, China.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5203.907

Dude, there's past civilizations that were super highly advanced.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5288.3

Have you heard of the little season that's in the Bible? They talk about the little season. No. I'm going to get a Coke. Well, in the Bible, it talks about- He didn't get you a Coke, huh? I know. I'll ask you when you're leaving and get a Coke. Oh, I'm sorry. Does anyone want any? No, I'm good. In the Bible, apparently, you know. your average Christian thinks tribulation is coming, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5309.274

Jesus is going to eventually come, right? Tribulation, we're going to be judged, right? And then there's going to be a 1,000-year millennial where Jesus returns and rules for 1,000 years, and all the resurrected apostles are going to be kings, and they're going to rule this realm that we're in. That's what that tribulation, Jesus returns, 1,000-year millennial. This is in the Bible.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

532.813

If the UFC does kickboxing, they might as well just come out with a bang and go bare-knuckle kickboxing. It's not a bad idea. Take my money. And that'll get people to check it out. Crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5330.885

And then after the 1,000 years, and then during those 1,000 years, There's a guy named Paul Stobbs I had on my podcast. He told me all about this. He's on YouTube, Understanding Conspiracies on YouTube. Paul Stobbs, he's amazing. He's talking about, so that's what we're waiting for. Jesus returned. He rules for a thousand years. He's the king of this earth.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5353.925

And then while those thousand years are going on, Satan is chained. to the lake of fire. So there's no Satan. It's just Jesus and his apostles ruling. And then after the thousand years, this is called the little satanic season. It's in the Bible, too. I checked, Doc. The little season where Jesus lets Satan go, and then Satan rules this earth, and he influences all the nations.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5381.005

And it's called the little satanic season. And the purpose of that is to test people. And there's a theory. There's a theory that he already ruled for. He came back in the apostles lifetime and ruled. They already did that a thousand year millennial. And now we're in the little season right now. Doesn't it seem like Satan is like influencing all the nations?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5419.347

I sent them a link, like a two-minute video. Jamie, can you play this real quick? This guy explains. And then you'll see all the structures. So that explains. So there's a theory. There's a theory that it explains all these structures that were built by angels.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5479.189

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5485.122

Right at one minute. Right at one minute, you're right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5490.445

No, but there's talking over it. There's a narration over it. So try it now.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5501.312

You just kept pummeling me. It just kept hitting. I thoroughly loved it. I've talked about it to a hundred people. Everybody I know, I'm like, there's a theory out there, and then I have no clue what I'm talking about. So please, if you have time.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5536.635

Today to walk me through this. Here we go.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

563.778

I think that's going backwards, to tell you the truth.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5713.829

He goes over, like, why if there was a record and we knew, then this wouldn't be a test. There wouldn't be a reason for the little season, the little satanic season. He let Satan out. He unchained him. Dude, there's a painting of Lucifer, and he looks just like the fucking Statue of Liberty. And he's got a chain, like a shackle around his ankle with a broken chain.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5736.68

And it's a famous painting of Lucifer. And he's like this, right? And then you look at the Statue of Liberty. That's not a woman. That's a dude. And it's got a fucking shackle around its ankle with a broken chain.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5754.265

With a broken chain, just like the famous painting of Lucifer.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5759.247

Just punch in Lucifer, Statue of Liberty.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5779.731

You think that's a chick?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5783.634

Look at the chain.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5789.117

There's the chain.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5792.039

Look at that. Wow. Look at that. That's the foot of the Statue of Liberty. Broken chain with a shackle.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5804.687

I don't know. This is just crazy conspiracy talk.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5812.832

I'm going to say this. Jesus is Lord.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5818.096

I'm all in, dude. I'm all in. I'm all in with all this. With a shroud of Turin, I'm all in, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5860.453

And he's holding up a torch. Lucifer, that's the god of... Is there boobs in the Statue of Liberty?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5910.489

I've been going down rabbit holes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

5914.751

Yeah. That looks like a chick.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6074.413

You know, and then the next thing you know. Have you seen the DMT red laser light thing? I've heard about that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6082.515

No, but I've seen a bunch of videos on it. Apparently, if you do DMT. And you shoot a red laser. I said, Jamie, if you see that, shoot a red laser. You see the matrix. You see code.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6094.501

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6094.941

And everybody sees the same shit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6096.482

Everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6103.087

Yes. Yes. Check this out.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6115.601

He explains psyops and how they- I've seen it on Instagram and I heard you and Danny talking about it, so you've done it. Yeah, I saw it on Instagram and flew Danny to my house right away. Like, break this down for people because it got shared amongst-

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6130.726

my groove and it's like what the exactly and that's the only question you're still going to have after you see it it doesn't answer any questions it just invites a lot more yeah nothing else there's code absolutely there is code so the code's not like spinning there it's like it's literally they kind of written out static it's static i can move the laser up and down and see all of the letters but it's like three-dimensional so i can get close to the wall

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6160.737

I can look down inside of the laser that way, and I can look up in the laser that way.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6166.622

What's your best guess at explaining that?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6170.264

I would be a fool.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6171.465

Okay. I love it. We can just leave it at that. Can't somebody write the code down?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6174.287

Maybe it's the universal consciousness that we're projecting. They just discovered this.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6180.755

I know the guy who discovered it, man. People have. Really? I don't know him personally, but Brandon McCaffrey, one of my black belts, he knows him personally. He goes, dude, if you ever wanted to do your podcast, I could make, you know, I'm like, hell yeah. Let's pay attention to this fight.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6195.405

That was seeing the Matrix when you're on DMT with a red laser. Yeah. How crazy is that? Any laser? Wow. It's like a red laser. There's a bunch of videos on YouTube.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6206.592

What if you do it with a green laser? I don't know. I don't know, but there's video of a bunch of people. That's just one dude. That's like the most, you know, all the other guys are like stoner dudes. You know what I mean? I wanted to show like this dude. He seemed to have a little more intelligence a little bit. Or a little believability, you know? But everybody sees the same shit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6228.928

they see the fucking matrix the numbers the code isn't that fucking life-changing did you you saw that tom campbell interview that i did right yeah i loved that one that was one of my favorite ones yeah that one's not yeah when he's explaining to you that consciousness creates reality i you know what i never really took the simulation theory seriously but uh

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6251.747

You know, I've always believed... Like, Jesus is a new thing for me. Like, the Shroud of Turin, that... I'm all in now with the Shroud of Turin. But before that, I was like, I don't know about Jesus. Maybe. But I believe in God, and I believe in a creator. Like, whoever created this shit is God. Here we go. Right? Gunn and Nelson, Kevin Holland. And there must be code on how God created this.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

626.963

Well, when the UFC blew up, it was UFC 2, correct? Yeah. Nobody watched UFC 1. They didn't know if it was real. There was no B-roll.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6272.941

So that... You know, I think science, like the simulation guys, they're finding what God created. Like, who else could... Put this simulation together, but a God.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

635.327

Everyone watched UFC 2. And did they get blown away and get hooked by it because of the striking or because of the jiu-jitsu? Well, it was because it was hoist. It was the jiu-jitsu. Yeah. Because people didn't realize that you could fight on the ground. I thought fighting on the ground was for pussies.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6373.327

Look at that. Dude. Damn, if he opens his legs, he's got to put a grip together around that arm, right there.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6390.26

All he had to do was just grip, S-grip under the armpit, and that was a wrap.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6434.975

Yeah, considered one of the best jiu-jitsu players.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6439.497

Jeff Monson was fucking huge.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6564.929

Let it go.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6566.17

That was a big punch.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6568.512

Uh-oh.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6569.333

Gunners.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6574.579

They're not going to stop it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6677.963

Yeah, I'll start him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

670.888

If they're going to do it, I'd go bare knuckle if it was up to me. The thing about bare knuckle, though, is your face gets obliterated.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6824.15

You give 10-8 first round? It's got to be 10-8, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6842.739

I'm with you, Eddie. If they're close, it should be 10-8.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6852.064

And what?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6855.626

If it's cinched up, if you have something cinched up. That's a lot.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6860.228

Even a triangle.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6894.642

No. You don't get credit. You get credit for not getting hit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6908.023

For offense, not defense. He's going to it again. Can you imagine you get points for escaping an arm bar? Like, that would be retarded.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6952.779

Exactly. There's a difference.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

6956.94

Both those rounds are not 10-9s. The second round's a 10-9. First round, how is that a 10-9? He almost knocked him out.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7014.467

We're doing EBI in Mexico City the next day. So that's Saturday. Next day, EBI 23. The featherweights with strikes. We're bringing back strikes in EBI.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7029.1

Yeah You can punch any bi can you punch the body you could punch to the you could strike to the body Just you could strike anywhere punch not punch That's next Sunday guys UFC fight practicing their body strikes are they like working on that?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7096.464

He's got time.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7099.845

The fact that he's not digging for underhooks right now is kind of scary. He should have took his feet off the cage. Why won't you immediately go for the underhook?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7109.708

What was your plan in the mouth?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7118.644

Gordon, if you were in the mount right there, you would immediately grab the underhook and underjack to like an arm triangle, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7134.468

Totally, but besides that, underhook, underjack, arm triangle, right? Yeah. Oh, damn. Look at that. He's going to knock him out. Those are good. He should really. Knock Jacare out from the bottom. Yep. From guard. How about Henzo on Oleg Taras?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7156.574

And then Jerry Bolander on.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7160.156

I know. Or Fabio Giselle. He's passing him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7167.762

I think there's probably like 10. Oh, there it is. Arm triangle. There it is.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7174.147

He's got to mount him. He's got to pass the guard. He's got to get his left knee across to his left hip. He's got to pass the guard.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7182.973

It depends if he has a good lockdown or not. If he had a good lockdown, he would survive.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7205.269

There it is. Here it comes. Here it comes. He probably knows what's up. He's just waiting until Kevin catches his breath. Oh, should not take the back. That was a back roll.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7232.25

He should have mounted in my opinion. All arm triangles, in my opinion, should be in the mount. Once you start going side control, there's too many escapes. The escapes are too easy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7256.315

Damn, this is going to be a hard one to score.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7308.18

So 10-9, 10-9, Gunner, but then 10-8 in the first round. What is that, a draw? Is that a draw?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7321.185

The guy was saved by the bell. How do you not give him a 10-8?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7329.478

It all depends. It depends.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7333.3

Do they still have Adelaide Bird? Does she still work?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7346.386

For Ford.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7403.834

Is it a draw?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7405.255

Either it's a draw or Kevin Hart wins.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7418.217

Oh, wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7424.673

That's legit. They gave him that third round.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7472.704

Is Joaquin Buckley the guy that did that crazy kick?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7492.15

How did that go down? Knockout? He just beat the shit out of him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7562.991

He's in a tough position.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7565.694

Like 80%, 85% of UFC fighters aren't ready for the high, high level leg locks, right? No. That's why Brian Hall came in and he just leg locked dudes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7577.665

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7578.166

Because MMA fighters aren't really training.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7581.828

They're not focused on it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7582.768

They're not focused on jiu-jitsu. Even BJ. At the high level. But see, and Brian Hall, he ripped through some people with leg locks.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7589.632

Even BJ.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7590.492

Yeah. Which is crazy. Yeah. But then he hits Topuria. How do you say his name?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7594.814

Topuria. Topuria.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7596.335

That was the first guy like, oh shit, this guy knows how to defend leg locks. Who is he? Who's his coach? He's got a... I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Famous guy. Yes. He's been he was working with someone legit. Maybe it was like Balance Studios or something. I don't know. But that was sometimes you're going to run into guys that you cannot leg lock. And when it's all greasy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7629.587

That's why Ryan doesn't fight a lot.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7733.393

Was that from a leg lock? Eddie Cummings?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7760.893

That guy was vicious, man. So good. So smart. I was standing over him as he ripped through everybody with leg locks. I'm like, God damn. He was on some other shit. You know what I mean? He was vicious. And then you hear from his training partners that, man, he went hard right in the training room. He went after legs.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

777.324

Yep. I had...

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

778.513

full-blown surgery it was uh how's it now uh it's good now stem cells how's your back your lower back my lower back's good man i got into that joe hip and steel stretching remember i told you about that that that's huge i do that every day that changed everything for you it makes it so that i don't need surgery because i'm supposed to go back for more back surgery really i was supposed to do that two years ago for another disc yeah another one but uh i'm

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7790.39

After he retired, he still put out a couple videos, little short instructionals on Instagram. And this one he put out for the Z-Lock. That, to me, is the best. In my opinion, the Z-Lock, the one he showed, that's the best.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7814.085

Depends what he's doing. What do you think is the best leg lock? One leg lock. You're going to teach your students just one leg lock entry and one heel hook. What's it going to be?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7828.588

No, like they say they got the breaking mechanics down and just where the leg's going to be. Which leg entanglement are you going to choose? Which one's the best? Obviously, it's not DOA. It's not outside Ashi. And not just regular Ashi either. That one's too basic.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7851.002

Right when you go, because I hear from backside 50-50 coming in from K-Guard, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7856.229

I hear from my guys, I'm not the biggest leg locker, but I pay attention to my guys, and they're saying that the entry into backside 50-50 is awesome, but you don't really generally get the tap there. There's going to be some kind of scramble and some kind of split.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7916.175

That's like Z-lock-ish, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7918.556

Yeah, because Z-lock is basically double treble with the outside heel hook. Correct. And instead of triangling your legs, stomping on the inside. Yeah, you can go foot-to-foot. Is that what you guys call it, foot-to-foot? Yeah. That's huge. That's like a game-changer right there.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7932.64

And that right there, just the straight ankle lock is the most powerful straight ankle lock from that position right there with it on the outside. Yeah, it's strong. Oh, no, the secondary leg.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7941.203

That straight ankle lock. And the aokie.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7944.865

How crazy are Aokis? Aokis are a lot like Dead Orchards where the first time I seen an Aoki, it's from Shinya Aoki, it seemed like he was going for just a straight ankle lock, but dude, I forget who his opponent was, but his foot almost slipped out, so it looked like a straight ankle lock that he almost pulled his foot out, but it got caught and twisted.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7967.024

Yeah, and everyone thought, maybe not everyone, but I thought, oh, that's one of those freak things that you don't actually plan for it or set up for it. It just happens. Sometimes they pull out of ankle locks. Sometimes, like an omoplata, sometimes when they try to pull out their omoplata, it gets caught and they tap an arm bar. It's not like you set it up. It's like a freak thing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

7988.409

They try to get out, but it got caught, and then they tap. So that's what I thought the aoki was. But it turns out... Fuck no. It seems like the Aoki is top two leg lock finishes in the grappling world today. It's just people get, because it's so good to counter with them, correct?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

8008.955

It's an ankle lock, but when they slip their heel out, it's like you're going for an ankle lock and they almost pull out their leg, and then it turns into a heel hook. So it's half ankle lock, half heel hook. Huge. It's like the most powerful shit right now.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

8026.243

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

803.817

delaying that as long as possible and you know doing these stretches man it takes about an hour and a half to do these stretches every day but it makes it manageable where i could uh you know tie my shoelaces without pain you know yeah lower backs are a motherfucker yeah yeah so

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

8058.115

And scroll down a little bit, Jamie, and look at the guy on the, that one on the right, the one you had, the big one on the right, that now we can't see it on the right, that one right there, can you blow that up? And the dude doing the Aoki lock, his right leg the way, I think people are calling that a shadow hook or whatever.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

8075.631

Silverado, he's a catch wrestler, Brazilian catch wrestler, showed me that when I was a white belt. I remember Silverado. The straight ankle. Remember, he used to do that. He used to do that. And I thought like, ah, this is nothing. So I never really fucked with it. But now it's back strong. Like Helena Cravar is doing this exact thing. This is like her main move.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

8095.837

Silverado had a lot of Jean LaBelle stuff. Yeah, it was a catch wrestling thing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

8118.204

And dude putting his right leg there, if he put it, traditionally you'd put it on the hip, you could get countered with a yokes or an aoki. So that's huge. Like a regular ashi, everyone's like, I got guys that just let dudes put them in ashi so they could take that foot. And it's a whole, it's a game changer.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

8153.095

Yeah. The guy who... I don't know. I think the first guy to really, really master it was the Polish guy. So we're... What's his name? He armbarred Gary Tonin, that guy. What's his name? Matias Szczynski. Szczynski, yeah. Yeah, Szczynski, that guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

8177.877

He just been breaking everybody's shit. And he was doing his legs just like that. It was the Aoki with that leg entanglement. We were calling it the Polish Aoki. And he's a bad motherfucker, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

8195.937

I'd never forget Silverado showing me that as a white belt, and I'm thinking, really? Really? Ken Shamrock puts his leg up here. How would you do that? I was like learning shit off Ken Shamrock I learned how I got into tolls as a white belt cuz Ken Shamrock had this instructional where he's in Jeans and no shirt.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

8216.566

He's all tanned and yoke He looked like a Chippendales guy and he's with some Japanese guy there He's going over told like standing over a guy's guard and grabbing the foot and doing a toe hold I'm like whoa What is he doing with the foot? And I could never get on top of anybody. I've taken down one person my whole life, and that was in wrestling. I had one wrestling takedown.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

8239.72

I wrestled two years, got one takedown. Because I was afraid to break my teeth. Everyone's missing teeth. I didn't want to shoot. I go, you shoot and I'll sprawl. I'm like, you shoot, I'll sprawl. I got a good front headlock now. I got a good front headlock. But I can't, I have zero takedowns. Unless it's a dude that doesn't wrestle.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

8256.549

Like when I would, I got in a couple street fights here and I was never, I was always a pussy growing up. I was never a tough guy. But every now and then, you know, I wrestled and I never looked at wrestling as a martial art. I looked at his pussy fighting. I go, dude, I'm not a fighter. No one thinks I'm a fighter. I don't have a reputation to uphold.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

8272.395

But if anybody fucks with me, I'm going to double leg them and just hold them until the principal breaks us up. You know what I mean? I was like, dude, I was grounding and pounding in ninth grade. I would take dudes out. I fought this one soccer player. His name was Cesar. He was talking a lot of shit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

8286.494

And I go, dude, he'll probably kick my ass, but he can't stop my takedown because this dude don't wrestle. So I take him down and I would just like get side control and like barely punch his stomach and wait for someone to pull me off. I love that. I survived. And then when I saw Hoist fighting UFC 2, I'm like, you can fight on the ground and not be a pussy? That's why I joined jiu-jitsu.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

8305.971

I'm like, oh my god, this is my shit. I thought fighting on the ground was pussy fighting. It's accepted and respected. That's hilarious. That's what got me into jiu-jitsu.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

8320.63

Dude, I scheduled this. I thought it was going to be at 1, and I got to get out of here in 10 minutes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

8331.233

Oh, it got pushed? Uh-huh. Mine is at 7. There you go. Make sure it's on time, though.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

8345.278

Is that older or younger? Old school Viking genetics.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

8351.122

What do you say?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

8352.123

I don't know.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

8599.95

Not Pitbull from Bellator. Yes, I know.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

8628.921

Oh, good job by Oberg.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

8630.201

I gotta get out. You leaving, dog? You're out? Love you, man. Love you. Thank you, man. Gordon, great hanging. Yes, sir. Thank you. See you soon. Good to see you, my brother. Love you. See you, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

8686.097

So brutal.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

8730.261

Brian's like, you know what the fuck you do to me with a seat belt? That's so ridiculous.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

9397.608

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

9466.942

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

967.109

The brand name is Venom or actual Venom?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

972.614

Like snake? What?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

975.096

Oh, shit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

9785.221

He's like a turtle.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1.292

We're up.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10007.796

Ouch. Ouch and ouch. It's just an investment for later rounds.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10034.35

He's just durable. He's durable as fucking.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10053.305

You have to stand in your grill.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10075.325

The DP's being active out there, man. Oh, yeah. DP's winning the round.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10081.707

That's what matters for the judges.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10094.523

He's not letting him get in the groove.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10103.068

Yeah, his quad.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10109.952

He's crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10149.44

Yeah. He really doesn't do much more than that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10167.81

Yeah, I think he has a lot more growth and adjustments to make to beat Strickland.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1019.138

Very good ground game.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10210.634

That was the first round for the champion. If you're Strickland, you go back to the corner like, but we can't keep doing this. Yeah. You got to take away those legs. You got to cut it. Here's the question.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10218.079

Is Strickland on antibiotics?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1022.481

What weight's he fighting at?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10263.867

It hits your heart.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10266.888

They said that last fight, Murab had a horrible staph infection on his shin.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10271.309

He had a bad problem. I broke my back.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10282.439

Let's go.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10284.46

I don't think he's going to make any adjustments. He's got to be busy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10289.845

He's going to lose five rounds if he doesn't change. And DDP's going to start wrestling soon, too. Because once Strickland starts committing, he's going to start shooting.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10307.098

Yeah, he checked it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10309.961

Sean's got to get a little loose.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10316.828

It's got to be frustrating that you can just do whatever you want to DDP and he just absorbs it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10330.223

He's got to get busy. See, Strickland's doing a great job of avoiding a lot of shots, but he's just not doing much.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10360.149

DDP's going to start wrestling.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10362.449

I'm surprised, yeah. I would imagine part of the game is wrestling.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

104.442

And she's not easy to get down. She was Gatorade High School Wrestler of the Year when she came out. And then she won the Ultimate Fighter. She was a savage and she got hurt.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10403.555

That got his lip. Yeah, it did.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10421.161

That's a fast front check kick, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10446.671

He got caught with a jab.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10459.839

America's America.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10474.628

Those fucking kicks are a pain in the ass.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10489.067

Until Sean shuts it out, he's just going to keep doing it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10494.214

He's spanking rounds.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10505.171

He's constantly throwing shit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10520.351

Right hand to the body. Nice. Fucking nice.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1053.68

Here's the thing. People hate on the card because it's not big names, but if you notice the way the card's structured, which is why I don't hate on it, is they're all going to be, for the most part, finishes. They're supposed to be on paper.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10543.463

Grazed him. Look at that. I mean, he's not getting clean with that, but it counts.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10554.246

Ouch. That's a nice right hand. That's a nice right hand. Oh. Now they're mixing it up.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10558.567

Let's go. Let's go. Third, fourth is going to be interesting. Caught him there.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10572.378

That's part of why he doesn't have as much power, though.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10577.641

Yeah, yeah. He's great defense. Best defense in the game. What do you think of that round?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10609.695

And DDP is going to keep doing it. Then once Strickland adjusts that, then he starts grabbing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10613.517

Nick Six is such a great coach. It's the guy with the red hair? Yeah. Great coach.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10622.379

There's that kick.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10623.36

There's a nice jab.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10628.296

You got to do some more of that. Look at that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10637.523

Great eyes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10646.65

I think he spars without headgear, too. Yep.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10651.514

Let's go.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10670.918

Well sure cuz you have to take some chances here Yeah, he does a good check.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10674.861

He checked with the other leg

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1070.335

They're both very good.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10700.163

He reaches so weird. He's in shape, fucking Drakus. Oh, yeah. Check that one.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10708.008

He's more busy, that's for sure.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10729.679

There it goes. I like that to the body, too. More of that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10733.001

More than one punch. More than two. Mix it up.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10759.908

A good chance against Jeremy Stevens.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10762.909

Imagine that. Yeah. He probably said it after he had a lot of caffeine.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10767.39

You think we'll ever see Conor in the UFC? Caffeine?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10793.681

Does he get crazy?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10798.606

That was a good right-handed by Strickland. Let's go, Sean.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10809.144

It's weird shit like that. Franklin just has to hope he kind of phases.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10824.685

Just grazing him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10834.598

Oh, wild when you're walking that ring and you're like, all right, five rounds. You know it's probably going five.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1084.359

Yeah, and they either go away or you don't give a fuck.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10857.251

Strickland seems a little bit... I want to see what happens.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10868.557

Strickland comes on heavy in the fourth and fifth, but their last fight, Strickland didn't do much in the fourth and fifth.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

10910.515

and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and,

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1114.281

You don't watch the actual fight.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1123.109

And you can see it better.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1128.573

I need to see the monitor sometimes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

11407.386

It is. It is. It is. It is.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1162.223

This thing could go through a fucking wall.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

117.428

She was on the Olympic team, but then got cancer. She defeated cancer. Cancer?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

11772.512

But he's still very good at taking, you know, getting hit. And he gave him a lot to look at there. What are you saying? He didn't take as much damage. Look at his fucking face.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

11784.504

No, he took damage.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

11787.527

Right, any fight. Other than Pereira. He's still able to kind of like... It was one big punch that fucked things up.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

11797.132

He got beat up. He got fucked up. He got beat up. One good shot to his face, yeah. It's fucked up, dude.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

11805.975

What kind of, he's got to, that's an operation, right? I mean, he's got to now get it all fucking set.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

11819.55

Yep. Dracostupacy, ladies and gentlemen. He's a problem. He's a problem.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

11825.553

He's a tough puzzle.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

11826.934

He's a tough puzzle to figure out.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

11890.905

I'm new.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

11907.631

that there's a chance he's going to try and wrestle me, but obviously the man doesn't defend the war, but he was just straight about it. He wants to stay in the bank. And I was willing to give that. I tried to force him to make it a wrestling fight, and then I can engage. I got that takedown. I didn't plan it, but it was there. I took it. That's gonna be a different game

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

11956.537

Yeah, it's a very different game.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1196.961

We can talk about that if you want. Yeah. Go ahead. But what are you saying? Oh, what the fuck?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

11976.389

Really? Oh, yeah, his coach has one of those fucking police things. Jesus Christ. Get arrested in America, bro.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12022.253

If you ask it, it's fine. He's like, yeah, I was doing some staff. I would have said, was there anything surprising about this fight? But it's not the reason I lost. All credit to DDP.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12035.916

Was there anything that was surprising about Drakus in this rematch that you didn't experience in fight number one? I'll make this quick. Let me take this for a sec. Hey, I fucking love you guys, man. I broke without fucking broken. Alright. Well...

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12083.046

It's a good night, fellas. Good night. It's a good night. I had a good time. Well, let's start. Are you going to be teaching a jiu-jitsu class now, or are we going to wait a little bit? I do. I just showed it. I need to stretch a little bit. Oh, Brian.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1209.213

Thank you. I'm feeling it. Sorry. Matt. No, you always look great.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12110.968

Did he?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12148.246

He gave Usman for the first three rounds a nightmare. He was really gassed out.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12152.432

But he couldn't finish him. That's true. That's an older Usman. That's true. That's not a vintage Usman. Who was in their prime DDP?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12157.659

He was taking them down decisively.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12163.206

Who was Hamzat? That's right. And then they put in Kevin Holland.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12168.53

The UFC was like, we're getting backlash.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12173.293

Kevin, you down? He's like, I guess. That would have been crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12214.117

Before the fight, though.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12226.204

Trump, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12237.651

Can't have one-eyed fighters.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1225.878

Where the fuck are you introducing me to the conversation? I'm just asking questions.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12258.372

I like that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12279.288

Yeah, he is champion.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12298.728

What are you saying? I'm saying juicy like how much muscle he puts on. A lot.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

123.953

She's a savage, though. So good at wrestling. We labeled her the Khabib of the women's division.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12312.057

And you're not getting that fight. Dato's like, he's back in the line now.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12317.12

You think it's a weight issue? Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12337.351

That's what was happening to Khabib. Remember, he missed a lot.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12409.007

Yeah, huge.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12415.556

Super tall. He looked awkward.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12418.701

I didn't know they had a mouthpiece.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12448.1

Do you know what? Yeah. Decision unanimous. Did you ever find out why Zabit just stopped fighting? He was so good.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12454.805

God, he was good.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12462.672

Is he like a Gaylord Focker? I think he's a doctor.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12467.776

A nurse has to go through some... Like a real doctor. Did he fight at 45? He was like 6'2 or something or...

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12474.642

Mark Henry said he's the best fighter he's ever seen.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12485.614

Really?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12490.5

He had it all. Wrestling, striking, everything, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12493.365

Yeah, everything. Super technical. Yeah. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12496.768

No, he's Dr. Zabit. No, Dr. Zabit. Maybe he decided this is not for me. Fuck it, you know?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12512.479

I kept thinking about that. The more we learn. I keep looking at that shit, and the more we learn, I'm just like. Boom. Five years from now when you have some kind of an AI mouthpiece and they're just able to fucking correlate how much damage.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12527.358

No, he just stays in shape.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12535.701

Let's see.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12557.093

Did he ever lose?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12582.637

Early in his career, not in the UFC.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12583.517

Oh, early in his career. But he kind of went out on top.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12588.401

It might not have stopped. It might not have stopped. Yeah. It was him and Tatiana Suarez.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12595.711

That's crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12601.458

If he did, it wouldn't be good. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12607.142

Right now?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12628.703

I don't think anybody's ever come back from that injury.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12635.271

I'm just saying, that injury is really...

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12638.054

I don't know if anybody's ever come back and been the same.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12640.156

I think Conor would fight if he wasn't getting the attention from BKFC and doing all that wild shit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12689.766

My friend was at fucking LAX, and a woman with her husband stepped off in a fucking giant truck, one of those black Uber X, Escalade.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12703.699

ran over her foot right now watch it got she was a little heavy so it hit her and she went like that and it got her so my buddy strong guy picked her up and he goes brian i go and he goes her foot came off i know what he goes her foot came off i go what are you talking about so she fainted in his arms and her foot was there So he picked her fucking foot up. Oh, my God.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12724.417

It ripped off?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12724.937

Oh, my God. He put it in her lap. He goes, you're going to be okay. You're going to be talking to her the whole time. The guy turned out to be really wealthy. And my friend thought he was going to... They took him to the hospital and all that. And I guess they saved her foot. Apparently, they saved her fucking foot.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12739.129

Because he kept in touch with them. And he said their foot... I guess they... Can't be normal. What about the nerves? Lorena Bobbitt cut his dick off. She didn't use her foot a lot. What about that? Did that guy ever get his dick rolling again? That guy started doing porn. I heard.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12754.156

Frankie Weenie or something, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12756.456

But that is the fucking craziest thing. Imagine that. Usually you'd be the skin would be hanging off because her foot. Fell off. Was off. She had a long dress on, I guess. She was a big girl? Yeah, big girl. She had cankles? Big girl, yeah. But her foot fucking came off. Oh, my God. It was on the grass.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12777.242

Look at Gilbert.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12778.803

Yeah, it is Gilbert.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12783.264

They don't want you to be oily, that's why. I'm like, so what?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12802.19

You want to even touch me? That was the craziest thing. She looked, I've never seen a head like that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1281.817

I worked with him on Kingdom. Spent a week with him. I love Matt Hughes. And he was great. And we talked a lot about, he was like, I just want to be able to wake up and put my shoes on. He didn't feel like there was anything, but he was worried about it. This was before the accident. Yeah, I said, do you have memory things? That was in 2005? No, that was 2015. 10 years ago.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12820.473

Oh, my God. She was a monster.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12887.617

The Rutola twins are unbelievable. Yeah. Oh, my God.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12923.486

It's great. His guard is the craziest thing I've ever seen in my life. Mikey's good. I've never seen it like that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12937.52

Oh, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

12984.431

He's on your back. It's going to happen.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

13012.465

Great fight. It gives you an appreciation for how good Gordon Ryan is. All these amazing guys.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1303.848

Yeah, but what I'm saying is that he was totally fine, but it was always a worry for him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

13041.259

You want Ilya to fight Makhachev?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

13043.52

Let's fucking go.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

13066.595

Yeah, I don't see a fight to appear.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

13084.857

Get a win, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

13089.841

No, I'll take it. I wouldn't hate a rematch. It's not plot. It's like must-see TV. No one's asking for it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

13110.759

Hamzat versus Drikus. Hamzat, GDP, Jon Jones, and Aspinall.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

13115.622

That would be the greatest card of all time.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

13131.673

I mean, Uncle Ive's wrestling is going to be a problem for Alex.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

13146.9

Dan Hooker, Justin Cage, he's going to be wild.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

13195.14

That guy's good.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

13201.824

That fucking juice.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

13206.888

Brendan Allen. Oh, that's a good card. That Gene Silva's nasty. Yes. Dominic Cruz is out. He retired. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

13214.176

Poor Curtis Blades.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

13219.242

Barbosa's still fighting. Still fighting.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

13255.2

There it is. I'll be in Minnesota this week. It's coming weekend, House of Comedy, and then I'm in Danny Improv next week.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

13260.922

Let's go. All right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

13262.062

Bye, everybody. Fun stuff, guys.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1343.499

He judged the last one.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1359.386

You mean weight-wise? Weight-wise. Yeah, you'd get thick, but... What would I fluctuate in other? In a good thing. I got fat. I remember when you were a brown belt. I've known Matt since 1996. Yes. The only man I ever kissed. It's right. You kissed me right on the lips. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I was, you know. We'll have to explain that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1375.676

I think you went to kiss me on the cheek and I moved my head and then we. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Plus you smelled good. It was one of those things. It was eye contact.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1425.48

Henzo's so smart.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1428.861

Oh, yeah, man. He's brilliant. He's just a brilliant human being. One of a kind. The best. Just a great human being.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1440.95

This is the guy you're high on right here, Matthews?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1456.096

Just gets low and sits down.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1478.603

It's an interesting lower back tattoo, I'll tell you that much.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1484.259

I don't know. It's an interesting idea. Like, I'm going to cover just that part of my back.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1489.502

I mean, it's... That's what it used to be.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1491.843

It's more of a Yakuza... Trick used to have a tramp stamp. Maybe he's going to do the whole back. Yeah. It looks like the beginning of a whole back tattoo. When he was goofing on me.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1503.367

Yeah, maybe. Or it looks like a Japanese something. Oh, good uppercuts inside.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1509.57

Damn.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1514.173

A little bit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1516.475

Nobody has Drew Dober's jaw. It's not quite as handsome.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1528.186

Stop. He does look like him. As he chews gum. I'd always be chewing gum.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1549.273

Yeah. Oh, my God.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1561.417

Somebody's going to get knocked out, though.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1566.074

Yeah. Somebody's going to connect.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1572.997

It does. You think about it. It does.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1591.368

I think she's way hotter than Kim. Have you seen Kim in person? I have. Yeah, but we see pictures, bro. Come on. What's the difference? No, Kim is beautiful, but, I mean, come on.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1619.635

I think her tits might be real.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1623.596

If you can touch them, they're real.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1626.18

Shut your dirty whore mouth.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1632.689

Does that count as a takedown? Duh.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1638.703

No, no, no.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1640.284

Hey, dude, that's condescending. It's a home run. Hey, that's fucking condescending. No, that's a field goal, Brian. That is so rude. You were joking, yeah? No, it's a field goal, Brian. I like to get people, you know, I like to ask the questions that novices are asking. Oh, right, right, right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1654.934

You got to create some energy in the podcast.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1660.177

Get him down now. Put him down.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1663.639

Come on, Prado. I've been a Prado fan for a long time. Oh! Somebody's getting caught.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1672.527

Great defense.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1681.211

Look at that. Oh!

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1683.212

He blocked it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1691.115

Joe, you know what was one of my favorite moments when you guys fucked it up? When you had Zuckerberg on, and he goes, I hunt. Oh, no.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1770.867

You're talking about the bro Zuckerberg? He looks awesome.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1774.049

He's doing jiu-jitsu.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1783.433

Look at your neck.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1784.854

He turned into a conservative. Yes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1790.918

Fuck, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1815.836

Oh! He's a big fella. Oh, Jesus. His hips like Trump. He looks like warm cheese. You see him with his shirt off? God bless. I love him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1825.444

Oh, okay.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1829.568

His skin is so white. I've seen darker clouds.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1839.978

They use it for addiction.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1932.048

It works. And it sucks being a fat guy. Right. But how fat were you, Matt? How about this?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

1943.092

Let me see. Oh, nice. Nice body. He needed to see it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2024.492

But Aliyah Quinta, people forget, Khabib couldn't take him down.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2038.164

Al did a good job defending.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2059.02

He did.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2061.261

Yeah, you're like, damn.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2062.242

He did better against Khabib almost than anybody else for a while. Conor?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2065.804

Yeah. Yeah, and his camp was atrocious that time. It was? Bad camp, yeah. Why? His trainer talks about it. He said it was like a dark camp. He wasn't training with the team. He was like in his head. He was like it was a dark camp. It was horrible.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2095.943

And then you've got Khabib, the greatest grappler we've seen out there, waiting for you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2103.369

Did you hear it? You were there for that fight, yeah? Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2116.204

I probably said that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2121.96

How do you solve that?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2127.942

I think it was. Yeah, but your wrestling doesn't. Once he closed distance, it'd be a problem for Connor.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2162.217

Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2236.325

Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2272.028

Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2298.931

Thank you very much.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2342.668

Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2412.063

Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2477.079

Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2499.69

Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2706.75

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The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2858.922

Because they can't come in the house. They can't come in.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

289.32

Yeah. Maybe because you've got some very fucking exciting personalities at 35.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2909.248

This fight was epic. Fucking Gaslam. Oh, best middleweight fight of all time. There's no problem here. I'm prepared to die. That's what he said there.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2916.554

Fucking badass.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2917.175

Best middleweight fight of all time.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2924.497

Not all black guys, but most people. I've never met a black guy in my life who likes anime. Me neither. You've never met a black guy that likes anime? I haven't either. Are you serious?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2934.866

He's the only one I know. Really? Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2956.051

Not all black guys. Most. Not all black guys like anime.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2966.218

NFL players are arguing over their favorite anime show.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

2973.777

The first hundred. I just fast-forwarded to 200, and I was like, oh, it's all animation. My daughter was into anime hard.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3003.968

Black star. Oh, let me see that letter, Joe. Thanks, brother. All right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

301.787

One of the best ever. He was doing wizardry. Wizardry.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3050.144

Oh, here you go.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3056.227

Tarted is a lie.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3063.481

Dude, I'd listen. Is it out of juice?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3086.278

At the Gracie Kukuk Academy. I got my blue belt from Hansel.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3132.71

You know how you don't want to get up? It was the best.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3147.161

And I'm like, all right. Pissing a jug next to the bed.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3171.31

I'll never forget, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3205.542

John John would be. I mean, yeah, he was working on his PhD. John, come out here. Yeah, he's out here.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3218.608

He's got a great sense of humor, too. People don't know about him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3222.851

Literally, for a long time, they'd say, if you were like, how you doing? He'd go, go fuck yourself. He's hysterical. Legit genius. Always in a fucking rash guard, no matter what.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

324.745

Banana. I'm never betting against Marab again.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3255.875

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Dude, hence I was like, sometimes the guy come in, his head is down. He's just feeling like he's too deep, man. He's too deep. Always talking about philosophy. His head is all like that. Some days you can't talk to the guy. I'm like, what do you mean? He's too deep. The guy's too smart for everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3305.367

Back then, nobody was, at least in headsets, nobody was really working ankle locks.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3321.175

About as thick as a silverback.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3374.379

Oh, yeah. Remember there's that picture of him against the fucking SWAT team? Yeah. He's, like, protesting. I think he's a communist, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3387.73

He's not a guy you want to get into conflict with.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3393.357

He's smart.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3403.486

Built like a grape.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3426.15

Oh, my God, look at the size of him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3450.215

There it is. Was he an NCAA champion?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3452.496

He was an internationalist. It's like on his Twitter.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3464.139

Tim Silvio. He was like this.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3470.791

He started as a wrestler, right? He wrestled. Oh, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3478.895

How do you choke a guy? What do you do with that? He's got no fucking neck.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3503.612

Mark Goddard looks like a sturdy individual. Oh, he's a big fucker. He's a black belt.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3513.58

Oh, boy. He looks casual.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3519.858

They're big boys, man. And look at that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3522.359

That haircut is fantastic.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3525.941

It looks thick. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3527.761

It looks thick.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3528.342

It looks like he's wearing a fucking... It looks like he's wearing Davy Crockett's hat. Look at that shit. There we go.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3534.564

Jimmy Crew's been in some crazy wars.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3536.745

Palado.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3537.986

Yeah. Oh, come on now. This one's not going to last long.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3552.342

I think you have heavyweights next, right? You got Tafa and the new kid who's undefeated.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3582.984

Yeah. Oh, shit. Oh, he's got the neck.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3603

When he was visualizing his head before the fight, he probably didn't visualize this.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3610.685

Hell of a tattoo. Hell of a fucking tattoo. Jesus, that thing is armless.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3639.142

It's called manicuring the target.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3659.731

Oh, here it goes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3663.734

He's getting pummeled.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3665.775

He's getting pummeled.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3688.018

That guy's fired.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

371.529

His cardio and his wrestling. And he took a gold medalist, you know. And he's striking. Yeah. I mean, throwing hammers.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3802.912

This kid's having the roughest night. You got 10 seconds. Come on. 15 seconds. Come on. I hope he goes another round. He just looked up at the clock. It's a rough first round. Hold on. 10 seconds. Come on. The worst first round. Oh, elbows. No, we need a second round. Oh, shit. Don't do it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3817.449

You're okay. You're okay. You're okay. This will be a 10-8 round, yeah?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3821.83

Where I come from, that's 10-8.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3823.632

They don't throw out 10-8s too often.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3826.275

Man, they're so stingy with the 10-8s.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3829.898

How much time? He kept flowing, beat him up. His mouth is closed. He's breathing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3846.592

It's a 10-8.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3851.756

Just playing a turtle, guys. Playing a turtle first round, guys. He's a thick neck. He's got a thick neck.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3856.079

He's fine.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3857.239

His cardio's on point.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3858.86

What, Jamie? He's not breathing heavy. Five to 62 strikes. Wow. Five to 62. Oh, my goodness. That's a lot.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3867.945

Yeah, it's a 10-8 round.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3885.609

Why are they not changing that?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3888.77

Is it because they don't know how to kind of come up with an agreed-upon rule set?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3904.053

Remember the masses, though, are familiar with the scoring structure, so they can confuse them more. That's PFL's problem. The smart cage?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3935.404

They should be in Ukraine.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3992.139

She's 41.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

400.932

What about against Cejudo, a gold medalist who's seen it all?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4013.506

Was she an athlete?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4047.61

What is your wife?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4058.872

Irish-Italian. Irish-Italian.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4130.405

He's so fucking rugged. He's actually, but he's also kind of like catching a lot of the shots off his glove. He's putting up a good round after getting dominated. Yeah, and he's actually, a lot of the shots are grazing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4151.056

Yeah, I think Crute's going to knock him out.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4154.137

He's also exhausted. Oh, he might be right. He just tagged him with two hard ones. Yeah, he's catching them a lot now. Crute's just a better boxer. This kid's hands are down. Oh. He's getting tired.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4167.893

Oh, oh, oh, oh. This kid is rugged. Jesus. They're both.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4185.6

Yeah. I didn't see that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4199.09

He didn't know.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4205.235

Oh, the other dude. I think Crute's got this.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4209.719

He has to, especially that first round, 10-8, even if you won that last round.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4220.672

It could be a draw if he loses the next round. I don't think so. I think Crute's well ahead.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4230.896

Yeah, well, Crute's catching him more. He definitely hit him with some good shots.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4240.382

He's soccer kicking his leg. How much does that count for? I don't think as much as head shots.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4246.345

The judges don't.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4276.449

By the way, you're right, Joe. That low kick is causing some problems, man. He keeps switching up.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

43.399

We got some stuff you can mix it with, I think, but I don't know. Do you need mixes? No, I don't need a mix or nothing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4378.391

We do know what works, though. The science is hell.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4413.026

Travis Pastrana is talking about he had a fucking... shoulder problem for two years. I think his shoulder. He did stem cells. No, he did BP 157. He said that in a week it was gone. It was gone in a week.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4427.659

I had a knee issue. I hit you up about doing stem cell and then I started that BC 157. Yeah. From Transcend. Dude, I don't have any issues with my knee. It's incredible. I can, you know, I run miles every morning. You gotta text that to me. Sounds like a fucking droid. You turn into Wolverine. It heals.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4446.869

This is interesting. I need it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4452.45

Turn 50, man. I need this shit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4464.241

Whatever. I don't like looking in the mirror. It just gets worse every fucking six months.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4470.285

I hope you get a hair transplant.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4502.85

He's kind of, he's borderline winning this third round. He's doing good this round.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4505.852

Kevin Aioli, he's pretty fucking good at judging fights. He's been around for fucking ever. Oh, last round. Your guy, Brian. He did. He has it 19-19.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4521.708

See, like, even as he's closing the distance... He scored there.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4526.553

His left leg is all fucked up. Oh, he scored again, though. He's... He is making contact to his head.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4547.21

Another one.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4549.171

Another one.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4558.058

Oh, shit. Oh, my God.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4563.023

Oh, he slapped him. Oh, he just slapped him. Give him a fucking smack. Give him a tomahawk. So disrespectful. Yeah, he ran into the cage.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4572.569

Isn't that crazy? That was insane, dude.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4576.412

Good God. Like a jumping karate chop.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

460.872

I believe it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4625.374

Rough.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4639.104

Those light cakes swell up so much. You took those from Gonzaga. That must have been a fun time.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4644.533

And the next morning at the airport, I had to be in a wheelchair. Are you serious?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4647.678

I beat the brakes off him, and I was in a wheelchair.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4655.954

That was the worst one. Here it is.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4657.015

Watch this.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4668.126

That's how you break all your ribs.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4672.11

Fuck you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4697.784

Now Kroot won.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4700.826

Really?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4711.595

Wow, that's surprising.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4715.639

It was close. Nobody got robbed.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4720.863

Oh, no, we got the heavyweight. That dude's a savage.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4731.992

I don't know how Yair gets down to 45. That fucking guy's huge.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4752.415

He did.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4759.958

Who's Merab fighting next? O'Malley?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4787.341

I think Diego needs one more before he fights for a title.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4806.434

Dude, think about what Merab did to Peter Jan.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4818.222

Peter Young's boxing is fucking unbelievable.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4820.704

Did you see his last fight after he had surgery and came back?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4826.408

What did he have surgery on? We were talking about it, remember? You and I watched that morning.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4832.912

He's fucking great, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4838.816

I love him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4868.196

He's Samoan, dude. He's Samoan, so it doesn't count. Taffa can fucking crack.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4881.665

They put him on here for a finish. Like, you know if you're here. If you're third on the card, you've got to go for finishes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4892.532

Finisher.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4899.792

Yeah. 7-0.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4900.172

He's a problem.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4928.52

Perfect.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4943.85

How's his ground game? 6'7", 260. Wow. Or 6'2", 280. 6'7", 260. Jesus Christ. Dude, I could fucking walk between his legs. Oh, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

495.856

It's the best weapon in UFC.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4980.328

GFL? Yeah, talk to me. I'm comfortable with them.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4984.814

It's happening? It's legit, yeah. So they're throwing a lot of money around, right? They're throwing a lot of money around.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

4991.235

Longo's coaching. Yeah, Longo's coaching. Cain Velasquez coaching. Javier Mendez.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

5014.462

No, that's the Brazilian team. That's the Sao Paulo. So there's six teams. New York, Miami, L.A., Sao Paulo, Abu Dhabi, and London.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

5052.324

They used to train together.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

514.806

And you're like, what the fuck? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put his head in your chest.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

5181.315

Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

520.273

He took two months off, came in the gym, and DC was like, we're going to beat the shit out of Kane. He hasn't been in two months.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

5227.964

Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

5455.074

Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

5525.546

Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

5656.01

Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

567.884

Luke Rockhold told me that Kane... was the guy who would turn your fucking head around. He would just get in there, and he said at one point, what he was doing to Luke, to Daniel, to all those guys was a different thing. It was a nightmare.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

5774.276

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The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

5821.929

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The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

5859.352

I haven't seen this in a super movie. Let me see this. A dog saves him? No, no. It's the first show. Jesus Christ.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

5889.252

That's Guy Gardner, by the way.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

589.864

He lost to...

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

5896.695

There's kissing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

5898.255

Same energy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

5905.238

Listen to me.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

5905.838

I love dogs.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

5909.899

You communists, you don't like dogs? What the fuck?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

5917.983

Hey, Matt, the dog's a bad choice, huh? Admit that. You know what? I thought the dog would be a bad choice.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

5924.505

I thought the dog... But... I don't think James Gunn could do any wrong. I agree.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

5957.325

Oh, well, there's a talking raccoon. How could you watch that?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

5959.826

I loved it. Talking tree.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

5961.527

You know what? You know what? Anybody can make a super dog awesome. It's James Gunn.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

5970.71

I think so, yeah. Did they?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

5989.895

This is not the Hulk.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6023.762

That Hulk was fucking terrible. Mark Ruffalo was such a pussy. Eric Bono was great.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6033.909

How are they staying up?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6047.77

It'd be great if his dick stayed the same size.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6064.581

I like him as an actor, though.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6066.522

Great actor. A lot of actors are crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6117.02

Oh, he's funny. He's so funny. Animal.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6121.862

Say what you will, he's a funny fucking dude.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6126.003

She's such a beast, dude. You just got to worry about the injuries, you know, if that neck's going to rise.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6132.086

Yeah, because she's fallen out of two fights in the UFC. She said, fuck it, it's go time, gave her a title shot.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6153.943

How about Francis winning against Cyril Gunn? That's right. No knee. Blown out fucking knee. Blown out knee.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6165.234

Colby Covington broke his foot in the first round. That was in the fight, though. That's different. It was just a really bad break.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6171.299

Yeah, but that's in the fight.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6180.385

Well, he knocked out Wonderboy. He's that good.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6191.813

That was originally supposed to go down. Oh, yeah. And then they swapped that. Man, Ian Gary is fucking amazing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

621.057

Yeah, it changes his DNA forever.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6241.392

They don't have knockout power.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6253.459

But then when he got to the elite level, he wasn't knocking guys out.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6287.734

Boom. And then remember, Wonderboy beat Robert Whittaker at 170. And then Robert Whittaker won at 175.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

629.338

I love that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6292.538

Robert Whittaker was way too big for 170.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

631.759

Oh, my God. Insane. He was very good at boxing. He picked up on boxing so quickly.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6342.344

Surf cyborg was 77 years old?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6349.048

The worst knockout ever.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6439

If you want to say you're the best in the world. You have to.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6455.692

Heavyweight.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6473.405

See, I think pound for pound we won't ever find out. I think Tom Aspinall is the best. Well, who knows? I think Tom beats him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6498.301

Right. You can't tell me John's the best of all time, or he is the best goat, but you can't tell me he's the baddest heavyweight on the planet after being an older Stipe. That's not going to do it for me. Right. Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6519.878

We also didn't know fucking Cyril Gunn was a fucking three-stripe white belt. That's news to me.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6528.072

Did he get that third stripe? It's MMA.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6531.135

That's what I'm saying.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6536.6

I think he might have frozen. It feels like he froze in the big lights there. I don't give a fuck. That's the game.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6552.748

World champion? John caught him. He caught him. I think John does that to him 100 out of 100 times. There's not enough hours in the day for Cyril to make up for it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6566.311

I can see John taking Aspinall down.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6569.312

You're talking about the black belt who grew up in jiu-jitsu gyms like Matt? He took Daniel Cormier down twice as a two-time Olympian. That's not easy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6675.602

She's been wrestling with some Iowa wrestlers bro Calm down.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6681.218

Watch her.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6683.839

Brian, who's your call? Who's your call, Brian? I'm going with China. You're such a piece of shit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6689.482

Tatiana.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6692.664

Tatiana.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6697.406

Oh, yeah, baby. Come on. Let's see what happens. Let's go. I'm going with champion.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6717.238

Are you making excuses now, bro?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6731.851

Holy shit. Oh, my God. That was crazy. Oh, my goodness.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6737.475

Oh. Right away.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6758.454

But Whaley's been working this position, believe me.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6766.837

Go for that. Oh, Jesus.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6772.059

How's the communist feeling? I always did it to go along with Brian. She's turtling. I was just rooting for the champion. I'm very persuasive.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6789.926

We've been here. I sound like Steven Seagal. Full guard. We've been here. We worked this.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6800.266

Matt, what do we do here? For who? For my guy, for my girl.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6807.732

You know what I mean? I don't see gender. She's not doing a big job. She's doing a good job.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6838.762

We work those. We work those. That's it. Soften them up.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6850.167

No, she's okay. She's just holding on over there. That's it. We're comfortable down here.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6873.186

Side control.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6874.067

Set up the submission. Isolate the arm.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6881.253

All day.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6914.537

What are you talking about, Matt? The right arm.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6917.759

Oh, look at this.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6930.848

She has the butterfly guard. She can sweep her.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6936.409

Oh, my goodness. What did I tell you? What did I fucking tell you?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6962.482

I think she's comfortable as shit here.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6965.826

It's a pain in the ass.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

6973.274

She's got the underhook. She's fading. No. No.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7.176

You got your cans?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

700.453

Sure.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7007.339

That's a question, Joe Rogan. I don't think she's going to need to. No.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7016.414

I don't like your attitude, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7020.276

And you want to move to Austin? No, no, come on, bro. Give me a second. I'm just saying.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7027.24

Do I got to buy a truck, too?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7029.021

That's not for you. You probably should. That's not for you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

703.014

So scary. He looked like a bodybuilder. So scary. Kane has Brian Callen's chest. That dude's not underrated. He's built like a CPA. Cain had them genes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7033.623

Carry a piece.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7036.885

American. American.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7038.686

Get back into jiu-jitsu or just wrestling?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7045.055

Yeah, I do a little jiu-jitsu.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7047.696

Roll around.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7051.177

No, I'm not boxing anymore.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7053.318

He doesn't know his phone number. I was getting hit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7057.159

I was sparring a lot. Getting dinged. And the shop goes, hey, what are you doing? 55,000 years old, getting punched in the face. A fossil.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7064.282

Yeah, basically.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7072.222

I can't do jujitsu either because I get hurt. I fucking have trouble looking for 11 days. You're feeble. You should not be feeble. I have a really good body under this.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7082.386

I'm wearing a leotard.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7088.689

Dude, there you go.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7096.765

She's a little tired. It's hard to get close.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

710.098

He's built like a very thick CPA.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7101.309

That distance is hard to touch anybody with. Well, that's why she's throwing a lot of kicks. She just doesn't want to get takedown again. But she is throwing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7132.091

Cross face. Oh, she gets it. Oh, my goodness. Look at this. On top again. She waited. Oh, my goodness.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7144.031

Hopefully she didn't get spiked on her neck. That's got to be very frustrating.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7181.891

Big shots. Ow, ow, ow, ow. The corn rolls are taking all that. Keep moving. That's why you win. Look at this. She's got a guillotine.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7220.096

She just keeps going.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7239.34

Oh, boy. This is deep water for, I mean, this is deep water. Halfway through the second round. Bro, this is a frantic pace, though.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7251.049

I like that you whispered that, bro. No, I'm not. I love it. Oh, all the respect.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7258.612

She set up the takedown Tatiana.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7264.154

Well, you go to your happy place when you're kind of tired and getting rocked.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7271.651

Sure, but she's not doing anything.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7278.792

And just the physicality. She's been working her wrestling.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7283.353

Yes, and she's been doing this.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7287.314

Look at this.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7288.855

Again, this is huge.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7313.796

But she's been working nothing but wrestling. She knew she was going to deal with this. We all knew she was going to do it. Yeah, but somebody like this, her learning curve.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

734.461

Dude, I'll never forget when Kane was fighting.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7354.998

Listen, you chose Zhang Weili.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7383.859

I think it's very demoralizing when you realize what your go-to move is not working.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7393.047

Listen, a lot of respect. I'm just saying. No, your cancer's got a good record. You're dealing with a different...

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7400.522

She beat cancer. You think she's worried about a Chinese girl?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7404.004

Chinese girl's beating her ass.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7405.225

Oh, right hand. Look at that. That was a nice right hand. She's rugged, though, but...

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7418.95

She's been drilling this.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7423.013

I watched one countdown video where they had the... You don't even know the name of the guys. He knows the state. She was doing a lot of wrestling and somebody like this... I do think it's one thing you're not going to beat her in wrestling, but you can neutralize the wrestling.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7439.824

Oh, I know.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7441.584

He's the best.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7449.526

You're right. She's got a crazy gas tank, dude. This round's so important. Fresh. Fresh.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

745.711

And he has that brown pride. I looked at the guy doing the video stuff. I go, hey, if I put white pride, is that cool?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7468.579

Oh, look at that. Oh, oh. They don't like it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7476.765

When he's in there, he can't have. No, it doesn't. It's hanging down. It might get grabbed.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7495.775

Oh, that's right. Way back in the day. You're right. She's getting clocked. Oh, no. She's getting clocked. How many women?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7505.943

Oh, Jesus. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. She just can't. She can't strike with her.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7514.043

Oh, she snapped her down. She snapped her down.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

753.859

That wouldn't go over too big.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7538.377

It's also Tatiana She's that she's not putting the strike in the shoot shots together.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

755.54

Yeah, you're allowed to have brown pride. How's it different?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7576.142

She's landing. Nasty. Great athlete.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

758.983

How's it different?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7587.165

Brandon, you want to come over to my side now? Look at her. No, he stands strong. Well, you don't jump ship. It's like going to electric cars. You'll never do it. Brian, if she wanted to have sex with you, you'd be very uncomfortable. She'd kill you. Yeah, she might be my type.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7606.277

Brian. Oh, that's why I said that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7618.024

Don't send them up. When she punches, her head's just off the center line every time. She's fucking great. Zayn has some traps, huh? She's a tank.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7632.09

She's also striking. It's fucking just higher level, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7637.573

Yes. Tatiana just keeps moving forward. No, this doesn't work. Oh! The difference is the striking.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

764.488

It's a little different.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7646.118

Much higher level, much higher level. Tatiana keeps moving forward in just one line.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7653.142

No, not at all. Look at that, just stepping back, moving, waiting.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

766.75

Let me pull out my history book.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7662.164

She's at a loss. She can't. Because she pays every time. That's the problem right there. When she does, look.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7678.556

Oh, look at that other elbow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7680.938

Look at that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7682.999

You're talking about a champion.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7689.921

Forget it. That kick's not it, girl. So good. So good.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

769.152

Let me pull out some history books. It's a big difference. It's 2018. What's with this world stuff?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7700.105

Her balance is perfect. Look at Tatiana. Her head's all the way over. She's just leaning a lot of weight on her front foot. Forget it. Oh.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7707.089

That's what I'm talking about, baby.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7709.691

Finish that shit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7711.413

Great job ducking under. That's a good shot. Look at that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7717.438

Amazing. 2-1.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7720.741

Down and then boom.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7729.809

So much higher.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7741.297

I think that Tatiana doesn't have a game plan right now.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7751.904

She doesn't really know what to do, so she's moving forward.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7759.709

past her front foot.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

777.94

Did you see that?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7771.04

It's rough.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7775.549

Listen, guys, we worked on the wrestling.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7795.788

Tatiana, I'm still with you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7798.37

I'm staying with Tatiana. All right, let's go. I like your loyalty. I do. I appreciate it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7813.017

Look at her.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7815.158

That's exciting. Oh, right here. Oh, she clipped her again. She's stepping back.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

782.703

Yeah, dude.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7823.187

Oh, Christ.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7826.89

Unbelievable.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7838.181

The first round, for sure.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7842.405

Bubba, I'm just sorry. I told you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7847.79

What is it? Hers, you mean?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7853.671

What do you mean?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7873.284

I swear to God, Matt, if I lived near you, I would be taking classes from you every day. If she had the underhook on the left side, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

788.066

He had a heckler? He had a heckler?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7885.719

It comes out like butter. You're saying her pelvis is on the floor, but then... Isn't she on the – how does she escape from that?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7892.987

You got to show it to me. I'll show it to you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7909.703

Oh, my goodness.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7915.828

I think she's okay until... Well, Jean-Louis might get out of it. She's got to get all the way over the side. She might get all the way over. Yeah. If she gets over the side, it's a big problem.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7923.89

Yep. And she's waiting.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7926.911

She's waiting.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

793.529

I saw Cat Williams at the comedy store one time. He was so fucking good. I've been doing this for 30 years. He was playing with a band and stuff like that. He's one of the greats. Did you see my Theals podcast? No.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7931.272

Right. Look at that. It's basically free. What does she want to do? Get her hips on the ground?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7947.709

Somebody cut her knee with a knife. Look at that shit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7951.313

How'd that happen?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

7954.456

Jesus. That's bad. Goddamn. She's just mauling her, pushing her face down. Just... Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8052.503

Thank you. Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

81.385

Guys. Otherwise, I turn into a gremlin.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8143.683

Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8215.385

Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8236.972

Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

831.452

I saw that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8324.89

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

833.693

Trump's like, what the fuck?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8412.048

Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8580.896

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The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

86.197

Fight Companion! There's no middle ground for Brandon. It's either all or nothing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8733.596

That's a big fucking deal. Oh, that's huge.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8756.282

Usually the purple belts are the worst to roll with.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8761.624

They have the skills.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8763.584

I think when I moved to Austin, if I really apply myself, by the time I'm 65, I'm like,

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8772.109

I know.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8773.95

I swear to God.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8834.967

There you go, sir. I don't smoke cigars. He's all warmed up.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8840.071

So, B, you're doing well tonight. So you got... I mean, you took the favorite. You got Strickland. But you got Strickland? Yeah. So you're taking the dog? Who do you got? Who do you got, Sean? I'm rooting for Strickland.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8851.359

But DDP, it's... He's hard because he's going to push the pace and it's really hard.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8855.402

If I were to put money on it, probably DDP, but I'm rooting for Strickland.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8871.311

Yes, he is.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8874.913

He is. He's awesome.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8879.515

His boxing's outstanding.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8881.255

I'm just curious what changes Strickland can make. He has a great team, I think, besides Matt's team. Probably the best coaching staff they have.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8890.318

Who's this you're saying? Nick Sick. This movie looks cool.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8894.399

What is this? It looks like a fun Black Mirror movie. Oh, his hand just got chopped off. He plays a guy that's made into clones and they keep testing him out. So they keep testing his, like, what can you, what, pushing him until he dies. Oh, God. And then they transfer his consciousness into a new body. Oh, my God. And then the clones find themselves. Fuck that. Oh, my God.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8913.185

The clones aren't dying. That's, like, they show in the trailer.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8937.944

I bet they have clones.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8939.444

You can clone your dog.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8943.869

Yeah, but can you get their consciousness into them?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

8949.976

That Thomas Campbell podcast was, to me, the most mind-blowing thing. Wild stuff, right? Fuck. It's just close to unlocking the secrets of what... That might be the new evolution. We're going to realize that there's something beyond evolution. Evolution is within a larger umbrella, which is the notion that this is a virtual reality. This is a simulation.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9010.092

It's so much fun. I might get addicted to that shit. Listen, it's fun.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9029.683

No, because I squad up.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9102.425

When are they going to have, like, where it turns into a workout?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9129.628

They've all got their heads up.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9155.11

These kids now who have been playing these games with the guns, when they go to a shooting range, this SWAT guy was saying, these kids are fucking as good as anybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9172.056

That's right. That's what's going on with shooting. These kids are all headshots.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9182.2

Makes sense.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9199.049

That makes sense. I did the boxing thing. That's pretty fun.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

920.437

I don't know where the fuck he saw you, but he said, I was fucking dying the whole time. The whole time. Dying. That was a good shot. You killed him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9206.773

Oh, 100%.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9209.831

But, yeah, it's fun, man. It's a workout, though. My son does the VR boxing and sweats his ass off. Oh, yeah, the VR boxing is great.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9227.898

So they made this illegal for the MLB, but you can now have a pitcher. They'll take any pitcher, like in the major leagues, and they'll throw. Oh, look at this.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9246.391

But they have, with Major League Baseball pitchers, they have a simulation, and you can see the actual pitcher, and he throws whatever he throws, the ball comes at you. Who told you they made it illegal? No, they made it illegal. They don't want anybody in the Major Leagues actually using it. That's what happens. Stop lying. I swear. No, Kevin Bay was talking about it. The machine's like $100,000.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9266.411

You can't have it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

927.323

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

927.503

Yeah, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9271.418

It gives them too much of an advantage, apparently. So they said you can't use it anymore.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9276.584

Yeah, that's what happens. You guys don't know. Shut up.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9282.293

No, it is. Find it. Find that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9285.779

No, no, no. You can't play. You can't have the actual picture simulated.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9290.988

Oh, thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9296.833

How much better his drive was.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

93.439

Oh yeah, all day.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9301.437

Oh, you tried to compete with Jamie?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9308.543

First of all, it was longer than 45, and plus I wasn't warmed up.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9318.251

No, I play it real. Yeah, touch some grass, though. He's good, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9326.141

Look at Strickland. I love it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9330.487

He's got that man's body. Just like a fucking Charles Bronson.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9335.413

Yeah, this is wild, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9339.142

I'm just curious on what changes Strickland's going to make to win more rounds. Does he grapple more?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9358.194

I think he's going to.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9359.735

I think we can see some stricken because, remember, this is the same coach that with Francis had him shoot more surprise everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9366.157

Yeah, I think he's going to do a lot of wrestling.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9373.899

Yeah, it does. That's not good.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9376.883

So he's probably on antibiotics. I gotta think so. And if he is, that's not good for his brain.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9392.771

It looks like I got dug out a little bit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9415.387

Was it staph?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

942.648

Always.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9434.053

They took out a squamous cell.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9438.575

He had to. He had to. He couldn't let you hang on. I beat cancer. You had a fucking little puss? I had cancer. I beat cancer. But it kept itching. And I was like, the fuck is, why is this itching? And I went and they took out a piece and she called me up and she goes, you got a little squamous cell there, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9462.054

What is it? It's like a little... The lady said that she's giving me some chemo cream. It's a basal cell, maybe.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9479.021

Don't fuck around with something that doesn't, like if it keeps bleeding, that's not a good idea.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9489.987

Take it out.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9496.37

Yeah, it was nice out.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9507.213

Yeah, I don't use sunscreen. I never have, even as a kid.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9520.233

It looks like you're a goth. You're a goth kid. Zinc cream, you know?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9534.602

What's this?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9546.445

I give staff. I don't fucking get staff.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9549.169

Well, that means you have staff. You see what Strickland said at the press conference? He goes, you fight like you ride the short bus like a retard. He does fight.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

956.755

That's what I smell. What do you smell?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9567.305

Not a great person.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9589.079

You know why?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9606.535

I have to say that Strickland stands pretty straight up, so he does seem open for takedowns, and I'm surprised he doesn't get— Hard to takedown. I know. He's hard to takedown. I'm surprised he doesn't get taken down.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9626.142

Yeah, ever. That's why I love watching him. He's amazing. But deep, he's so big. I thought he won the first fight.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9658.965

He looked like he was 240 standing next to Bisping, and Bisping's 220.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9673.695

You're not allowed to do...

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9679.267

Me too. They think you get masks.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9681.935

I love IVs.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9690.295

They say NAD.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9693.856

What do they say? You have to shoot it first? Do you have to shoot it into your body first? No. You don't take it supplement-wise. You shoot it? No.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9704.898

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9715.181

I like it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9717.943

Not bad, buddy. When are you 58?

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9767.509

TDP has actually skinny legs, so a lot of his weight's in his upper body. I don't know if they're skinny. I mean, comparatively. Fucking Pereira's ass. He's got more ass than Beyonce, man. That ass is on a different level. I don't know about that. Who? Pereira, you mean? I mean, Pereira.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9782.199

Unbelievable.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9832.978

Super controversial fight, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9848.974

They got DDP listed at 6'1".

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

985.608

There's Jimmy Crute. He's getting ready.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9851.775

He looks 6'2", to me.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9865.985

He's as strong as fuck.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9881.594

Alex was catapulted to the front because Izzy was so dominant, so they sped him to the front. Right. It's going to be different. No, it's different.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9900.049

Here we go! This is an insane way to make a living.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9910.039

Look at that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9916.161

I'm so curious on the adjustments they make.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

992.921

I was looking to see if it was. That was 11 minutes ago. Underdog plus 135. No, but up top it says the Brute's back.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9938.288

It's still causing damage.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9966.105

Yeah, they don't give him the respect.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9968.467

He doesn't look like your conventional elite.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9980.766

Sean's really good at checking his kicks, but he's not checking these.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

9995.158

I love the jab, man. Yeah, man. He's so smooth, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2297 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

1257.627

They're going to go with Bernie and AOC.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2297 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

1862.122

Wow. That's crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2297 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

274.102

How did you not know?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2297 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

3725.772

Yeah, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2297 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

4259.59

Jesus Christ.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2297 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

6125.551

Oh, my God.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2297 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

6245.249

I was going to say neurodivergent.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2297 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

6558.185

They executed an Olympic gold medalist wrestler.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2297 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

6561.666

For protesting.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2297 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

6564.215

Yeah, and a bunch of people tried to step in, diplomatic people tried to negotiate.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2297 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

6820.595

Primitive Adderall.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2297 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

8138.8

Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2297 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

8640.889

It's Kuklinski or something.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2297 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

8703.33

That's crazy. He'd go kill poachers.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2297 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

8720.765

Why is Britain that way? Like, what is... I don't know, Francis. You tell me. There's a lack of hunting culture. I think that's part of it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2297 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

8764.896

Foxes are cute.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2297 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

885.042

Imagine that's your field of choice. Yeah. You're like, you know what, I want to find out what's going on.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2297 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

8947.209

Yeah, they're cute.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2297 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

9219.576

Yeah, they can only count them, I guess, when they actually stop them. Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2297 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

9566.643

Oh, you did? Okay, sure. What the fuck, man? Yeah. I don't know. Did Glenn Greenwald write it for sure? Glenn commented on it, but there is a Forbes story that I sent him. Yeah, I just found out about it from Glenn.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2297 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

9972.182

This girl also went to Columbia. Says she got a master's degree at Columbia.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2277 - Woody Harrelson

2199.968

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2277 - Woody Harrelson

3603.708

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2277 - Woody Harrelson

4315.085

Really?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2277 - Woody Harrelson

5575.289

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2277 - Woody Harrelson

897.2

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

1.931

Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out!

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

1002.752

You're hot. I love your dreadlocks. Great. Great look. Great bodies. Great bodies. Dancing around. Great cocks.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

1008.454

Girl, I know it's true.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

1010.795

Yeah, that's a... I do like their music.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

1013.257

I love you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

1059.739

He's bipolar. I know.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

1123.872

Randy, what's his last name?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

1145.148

Gonna Make You Sweat, C&C Music Factory.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

1171.687

I like the ugly years of musicians. Gonna make you sweat the same song as everybody dancing. Oh, that's it. Everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

1377.905

Oh, that had been hugging his balls.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

142.626

Yeah. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

154.398

There were always really socially bizarre people. And like tired and mad. They've seen some people. And it's always a tiny room.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

1692.703

You're not training. There's a little bit you can kind of learn, but you're done after a little bit. If you're not Daniel Day-Lewis already.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

1700.389

Yeah, if you're not that guy already, you're probably never gonna be able to do that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

1861.897

Oh, my God.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

1864.238

I drink it up. What was it? Silver Linings Playbook. I think her and Bradley Cooper.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

19.918

No.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

195.408

The show would have been a lot better.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

1973.554

Drain dry. I'm so sorry. Cut to the part where he kills him. If you have a milkshake.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

2067.365

Who was that guy? Christian Bale? Jared Leto was sending people stuff, I think, as the Joker. Jared Leto was doing weird shit when he was the Joker.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

2130.226

Not terrible. I never heard of it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

217.06

No.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

23.743

What is that from? What show is that from?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

2664.216

Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

28.308

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

2921.363

Mm-hmm.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

2940.832

It sounds like that other guy who's older and blanking on his name.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

3105.471

No, you don't get involved in anything. Until he was 69 years old and 276 days. Who is that? Gordie Howe. Gordie Howell, great... Hockey? He was 69? Yeah, I mean, he wasn't in the NHL at that point, but he played a professional hockey game at that age, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

3139.919

Kelly Slater, also pro surfer, still rolling.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

3158.145

This is a list on Wikipedia. Albert Hughes is the oldest pro boxer at 70 years old in 2019. Oh, my God. That seems like a suicide. Where was he out of? I'm going to look. What year?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

3188.22

The old guy wins? That's what the video headline says. This looks like someone took a motherfucking dive.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

3210.515

White Tyson. 36 years after his last fight.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

3221.247

100%.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

3308.755

Did you ever have that guy, Brian?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

340.964

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

3404.221

Yes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

3670.385

This woman told me this. Who ever says, people say, I light up the room, that actually lights up the room. That's what it sounds like.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

376.843

I don't know that guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

3860.032

Checkers is dead. Yeah, baby.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

3886.937

Like, obvious.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

3922.97

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

4373.276

What is, how do you say in English? Cucumber?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

4404.22

They both look like they're out of their fucking minds. And I'm sure it's edited, but he comes off way better than her.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

4506.577

What a terrific guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

4511.637

What happened?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

5159.446

Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

5212.598

Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

5806.482

Legal though? Ew.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

6017.105

It's a legume. I wish Snickers were good for you. They're fucking delicious.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

6032.119

He gambled a lot. He wouldn't leave the table.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

6047.366

Hence the sandwich.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

6055.59

Gambling.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

6068.899

Skyrocketing, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

6083.999

How does it work? It's total gambling.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

6090.647

Addicts.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

6142.439

It actually doubled today. It's dropping while we're watching.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

6146.142

50% today.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

6154.549

Trump coin.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

6159.553

Very weird. I'm very curious. How does that work? A billion, $2 billion market cap.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

6172.614

Collectively.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

637.606

Because that was a thing that everybody hated was the hammy, hammy sitcom actor. Come on, Bobby. What are you doing?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

6414.218

Yeah, you're staring at me pretty hard. LA. Yeah. No, I'm not.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

6553.208

Yeah, it worked out.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

6562.799

Thank you. And I was wrong. Thank you for your vote of support.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

6770.738

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

6782.53

That format on Kill Tony is just so great. It's perfect. He's got it dialed in.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

6853.982

It's like 25. Ooh, done again.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

7369.347

I'm a ma'am.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

7479.358

Mr. Putin, he says, these tariffs, this is bullshit. It's part of the game. He says it's a whole terrific thing. It's part of the card game.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

7498.732

Let me tell you first about the history of my country and suffering. Let me tell you how many people stole and starved to death.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

75.38

Oh, fuck. Fuck, I fucked it up. Sorry. I would have said Big Bang Theory.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

7607.54

Imagine we filmed that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

7659.381

Yeah, they should have thought to talk to you before they built that 5,000 years ago. Was it 5, 10? It's probably more.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

8158.402

Thank you. Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

84.924

Where they're not laughing. No laughs. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

985.565

That works better, though. Find somebody. Yeah, that works better. Just put a bunch of hot dudes together.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2300 - Kyle Dunnigan

998.41

They got a bad rap. Like, now they'd be fine. They'd be fine.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

1020.12

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

143.417

What year was this?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

164.439

86?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

2104.395

No.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

2469.378

You know, that kind of guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

2781.03

Oh, yeah. I remember that. That was a great show.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

2790.479

Yes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

2851.481

I switched over to the Lone Ranger. I was looking at people that were listed here. I'll give you this one. There's a few people listed here as guest stars.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

2860.848

No, Landon, Warren Oates.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

2862.989

I was looking down there.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

2871.957

Lone Ranger here. One of these guys, maybe?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

2882.886

Clayton Moore.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

3033.065

I have no idea.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

3230.39

No Slim Jims. Past two hours, you've been passing gas like a very sick infant. I gotta breathe all day. I'm sorry, Lefty. I had a lot of coffee, okay? Sorry. And then you use my name. Jesus Christ, Lonnie. Yeah. She said my name. You catch our names by any chance? Yeah. He called you Lefty, and you called him Lonnie. Well, I overreacted. Okay.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

3259.918

Son, we gotta talk about Lefty. What did you do? Love me! You killed his son.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

326.236

Oh, no.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

3271.023

You're gonna kill us. What are you doing? I get horny when I'm scared. I'm married. Who cares? It's just us in the shitty wildlife, you know?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

3282.188

This is our son.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

3283.429

We're too young to be grandparents. All because your son couldn't pull out in time. good house guests i would categorize these as a must kill what are we family oh my god can i get you anything i'd sell my left tit for an advil and a cup of coffee you said what

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

3313.393

There was this food incident, Rocco, with pubes in my wonton soup. If it's okay, I would just really like to torture him a little bit if it's okay.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

3322.075

Shouldn't have done that, Rocco. Yeah, knock yourself out.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

3325.876

Oh, my God. Are we all gonna die? You don't have all night?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

3336.618

Wait for me before you two start hitting each other.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

3344.406

Once you start killing it, it sort of becomes your de facto solution for every problem.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

3348.869

What?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

3352.472

Get off of me. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna, Ruth. What's that?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

3358.577

Shame. You're gonna put something that hard to waste. Huh?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

3974.76

Who?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

3974.88

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

4181.003

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

4387.92

That's right. I forgot about that part.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

4569.116

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

4571.258

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

4927.821

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

5329.284

26.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

5330.225

Wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

535.44

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

5509.324

I don't know what to make of you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

5572.127

6'1"?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

5587.529

It's usually hot in Texas.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

5589.69

It's hot out here to play golf in Texas.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

5594.831

Usually.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

5595.991

Well – But you can play all year here.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

5599.447

I'm not. I don't think it is.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

5627.769

Shirt?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

5669.144

Well, I got some black shorts over here.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

6078.748

You should try that one, Jamie. That's cool.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

6089.053

you know it just it's decluttering you know it's like when you do it in your life and you um you know you talk about just with you you know you mentioned distractions at the very beginning you know you think about all the things that can catch you you know to distract you and if you're trying to do something that's pretty straightforward

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

6117.887

Whether it's stir grits or sew a line of something or play a game of golf, which ideally you only have to swing – hit the ball like 75 times if you're – everything that distracts you from that is –

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

6163.565

Like an NFL game could take like three hours on TV, but it's like 20 minutes of action.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

6180.913

You got to come back, get it back together to hit the ball or do anything.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

6235

a mind-body exercise, a game, come to you. When your great athletes say they're in a zone, they're not in a zone. They're really conscious. They're really connected. They're really aware. It's more than a zone. It's like the ideal place to be.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

6326.158

You don't have so far to go to achieve your intended goal. Right. You don't have to drag yourself back from outer space. You're not dreaming over there. I'm in my body already.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

6374.252

for golf you know you think of golf as like oh i can be willy-nilly out here and i can be fun or i can be aggressive or i can be competitive or whatever the hell all that stuff is That's real. That's emotion kind of thing. But if you're not in the body, good luck. Right. And it's only luck then.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

6414.245

Right. I would imagine archery would be one of the more challenging ones. Very challenging.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

6439.718

That's as good a close-up as any Robin Hood movie ever had. It's just great.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

6469.421

What's that?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

6508.881

Yes, this is exactly what it's like. Yeah, those things don't even look fair.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

6599.271

I think I've seen that guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

6640.129

No.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

6844.139

All right. I'm going to try to do that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

6903.43

I'm going to take a leak again.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

6906.632

No, that's okay. Okay.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

6941.466

I mean, I think I always wanted to live in San Francisco.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

6990.339

Oh, wow. And had dinner with him and Roman Coppola.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

7021.998

And there's homeless people in Los Angeles and Santa Monica and anywhere that is warm. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

7028.308

And California is the most populous state, but... I don't think it's a political choice.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

7033.855

I mean I think – isn't it – I don't know the stats but these people don't – it's more of a mental health thing. It's definitely a mental health issue. So it's not anybody's politics that are making people crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

7064.84

It's like a resilient, extraordinary place, you know.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

7077.648

Do you really think they encourage people?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

7167.811

Well, it started before that in New York.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

7189.918

And it wasn't a poverty situation, although it looks like it when you look at it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

7209.354

And living in a home is no different than living on the street. The thing is still going on.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

7248.18

Every state has a city that has X number of people living on the street, whether it's Yankton, whether it's Minneapolis, whether it's Louisville, whatever. Everyone's got like a street scene situation that's rough like that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

7444.651

Who's making money on the homeless?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

7461.84

You mean, are they, like, government? Yes. They're all government?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

7499.626

It's like,

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

7629.641

So, you know, I'm not going to suggest that I could solve the question of bureaucracy today, but I think there's something about...

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

7962.406

Well, I feel like there's something hanging over our heads here that's like this situation and maybe it's just a continuous situation of like a world that gets more and more people all the time and more people want to have a voice and there's just more people shouting all at once and there's not quite the same kind of agreement. We don't have like an ideal that we're all working for.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

7987.987

You know, I guess not to, like, cheat, but, you know, the greatest generation, they had to fight a war to maybe save the sort of structure of Western civilization. Right. There is that argument, you know. Right. That if the Nazi Party had defeated England and, you know, life would be different. Life would have been different, you know.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

8018.107

gone further you know that we'd have been it would have been a different world it wouldn't have grown the way it is but now it's grown it's there's this freedom the war was fought the i believe oh there was a great quote one of those books like uh there's no such thing as a bad piece or something like that there's all kinds of different but

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

8075.635

That's all we've come up with.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

8152.875

Yeah. Any kind of a problem that we have as a group that we all are affected by or care about.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

8279.555

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

8305.047

He lives there. Huh? He lives there. And this is a guy who has money. He lives in the community with those people. The way he did that, this man must be deputized.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

8409.89

Okay.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

8411.492

Yeah, okay. Sorry I kept you so long.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

8421.642

Yeah, well.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

8424.384

Okay. But, you know. I will just say that those shorts are very – they're forgiving shorts. So if you've had a big meal. Good. Beautiful. They still fit you. I like that. They're good.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2282 - Bill Murray

8463.705

All right. That may be a model, too. Hey, he's definitely a model. He's beautiful.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2301 - Ben Lamm

10554.126

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2301 - Ben Lamm

4985.556

Yes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2301 - Ben Lamm

7427.111

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2301 - Ben Lamm

9912.828

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2266 - Brian Simpson

2656.761

The figure skating community tries to take out people by breaking their knees?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2266 - Brian Simpson

6651.715

Look at him running. It's so dumb. He's flying through the air.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2266 - Brian Simpson

6666.801

He's on a tree. He flies and he grabs the deer.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2266 - Brian Simpson

7115.179

I'm worried there may be something real wrong with me.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2266 - Brian Simpson

7933.317

Nothing's going to fix this shit, bro.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2266 - Brian Simpson

7939.42

But why do you think that, though?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2266 - Brian Simpson

8185.406

Oh, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

10665.609

No.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

1087.259

As long as we want to go.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

1173.549

Wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

1276.072

Oh, wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

1624.088

Here it is right here.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

1789.239

And he showed up with a camera crew.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

2108.347

Is that true?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

2109.748

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

2155.262

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

2210.773

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

2290.071

What do you mean by that?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

2358.231

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

2467.495

Yes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

3693.953

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

3926.075

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

4647.533

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

4990.659

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

5122.477

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

5526.329

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

5527.39

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

5545.679

No.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

6187.436

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I love this part. Oh, come on.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

6462.95

Yes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

6473.719

Yes.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

6935.119

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

6954.483

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

6964.009

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

752.504

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

7615.407

Wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

7659.193

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

7697.304

Right, right, right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

7896.103

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

8199.804

I'm telling you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

8332.39

Wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2330 - Bono

9040.058

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

10086.915

Wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

10091.538

Jesus Christ.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

1130.569

Oh, no.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

1250.324

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

1267.253

You're talking about surgery. Into the glutes?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

1272.195

What kind of a fucking doctor? Let me see your diploma.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

1405.145

Wait, here's the thing, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

1424.274

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

150.156

Oh. Oh, yeah. I remember him.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

1868.443

Guys, I bought donuts yesterday morning. I'm that guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

1874.241

I'm the dude. And meanwhile, they all go to jail eventually.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

1960.524

Michael Rapaport as a skinhead is hilarious.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

200.685

I'm just picturing you in black loafers on.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

2011.264

Oh, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

255.966

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

3118.051

86. 86.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

3144.218

And I was like, wow, listen to this.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

3188.956

Look at that.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

3190.698

That's Jim Carrey?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

3541.204

Oh, my God.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

3689.558

Oh.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

3800.965

No.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

390.749

Right. What were they? What were they?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

4010.379

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

4163.394

I'm going to show you because look, I got this now and then I got that now. See, I'm grinding.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

4495.541

Oh my God. Do you know what I mean?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

4912.682

Girlfriends get dragged.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

4936.898

Right. Do you know what I mean?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

5302.116

Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

5743.372

98?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

5834.34

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

5898.059

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

594.046

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

627.521

Oh, really?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

6297.551

What is Hustlers?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

6357.335

Damn, is that really J-Lo?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

6790.686

Four score and seven years ago.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

729.434

It's a science fiction movie.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

7334.694

Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

775.993

In a 90-minute arc.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

784.237

Oh, God.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

7872.004

How much spit do you think you ate?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

7977.349

Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

8814.348

Yeah, it's tough.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

9017.04

Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

9033.71

We're so happy.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

9036.733

Let me hear this.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

9527.64

Let me see some action.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

9569.284

Yeah, I probably got punched. Some douchebag jumped out of nowhere, giving shit to the employees. And I just said, hey, knock it off right here. Okay, so were you the first one to go ahead and grab them to try to move them out? I was probably the first guy. These guys fucking with the waitresses. Dude, what are you doing? The guy fucking punched me.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

9588.522

I said, dude, you don't want to get into this with me. grew up doing this shit. I said, don't do it. I drug him to the ground. I said, you got two options. Either stop or I'm going to beat the living fuck out of you. Okay. So I said, that's how it's going to go. And he said, I want a problem with you. I said, you want nothing to do with what I'm going to bring to you.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

9608.798

And then, oh yeah, no, it's right there.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

9618.361

Yeah, right there.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

9789.636

It's why I like those stupid revenge movies.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

9872.716

And I'm like... You need, like, a half hour to recover.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2226 - Theo Von

11241.729

Yeah, that's how they do some of that shit.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2226 - Theo Von

11259.626

100%.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2226 - Theo Von

228.991

Oh, wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2226 - Theo Von

408.067

Oh, it's flailing.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2226 - Theo Von

410.208

I think so. Yeah, dude, you ever seen those guys? Homoerotic. It's like, hey, fish, I'm over here. I'm over here, boys.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2226 - Theo Von

6368.16

Oh, wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2226 - Theo Von

9872.374

But isn't that what they did, though?

The LOL Podcast

Our House Was Robbed!

1698.399

It's fine.

The LOL Podcast

Our House Was Robbed!

3657.691

I'm sorry.

The LOL Podcast

The Taylor Swift Episode!

1771.579

Thank you.

The LOL Podcast

The Taylor Swift Episode!

1800.729

No, I wouldn't say that.

The LOL Podcast

The Taylor Swift Episode!

2003.433

You got to sing for us. I don't know how to sing at home. Okay.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP5 | Let Them Think Bad Thoughts About You | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

25.092

Ooh, that's a good one.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

1008.206

Precisa. It's about empowering yourself to respond to stress in a way that supports your well-being and helps you achieve your goals.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

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1021.85

That's a fair question, and the answer is a resounding yes. We've heard from countless listeners who have used the Let Them Theory to transform their lives in profound ways.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

1032.302

Absolutely. We recently received an email from a listener named Sarah. She was working in a highly toxic environment where her boss was constantly belittling and micromanaging her. She felt trapped and was starting to doubt her own abilities.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

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1051.661

It really is. But Sarah decided to try the let them theory. She started using the let them let me scripts to detach from her boss's negativity and focus on what she could control her own performance and her job search.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

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1070.094

Exactly. And within just a few weeks, she landed an incredible new job at a company with supportive culture and a boss who truly valued her contributions.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

1085.937

Absolutely. Sarah's story is a powerful reminder that we don't have to be victims of our circumstances. We can use the let them theory to reclaim our power and create a life that is aligned with our values and goals.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

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1107.749

It really is. And the best part is that the let them theory is not some complicated multi-step program. It's a collection of simple practical tools that anyone can use to are feeling more calm, confident, and in control of their lives.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

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1126.695

Exactly. It's like learning any new skill. The key is to be patient with yourself and keep practicing.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

1136.731

Me too. And I hope our listeners are feeling the same way.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

1151.581

You know what's really fascinating to me? It's how much our understanding of the brain has evolved over the years. We used to think that our brains were pretty much fixed after a certain age, but now we know that's not true at all.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

1169.984

So even if we've been stuck in this chronic stress cycle for years, we're not doomed. We can actually rewire our brains to respond to stress differently.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

1202.145

Exactly. It's like trying to run a marathon on an empty stomach. You just don't have the energy or focus to do your best. But when we learn to manage stress, we free up so much mental bandwidth to focus on the things that really matter.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

1217.537

Exactly. And that's where the let them theory comes in. It's not just about feeling less stressed. It's about unleashing your full potential in every area of your life.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

122.944

Exactly. Think of it this way. Your prefrontal cortex is like the YZF of your brain, calmly assessing the situation. But when your amygdala senses danger, it's like this hyperactive monkey jumps in and starts throwing things around, making a mess of everything.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

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1238.178

And the beauty of it is that it's not about adding another item to your already overflowing to-do list. It's about integrating simple, science-backed strategies into your daily routine.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

1253.613

Exactly. It's about creating small, sustainable habits that add up to big changes over time.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

1263.464

And remember, you don't have to do it alone.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

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1273.286

Absolutely. You'll find guided meditations, expert tips, even a downloadable worksheet to help you identify your personal stress triggers.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

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1283.988

Word of mouth is the best way to help us reach more people who are ready to ditch the overwhelm and embrace a more empowered way of life.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

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1296.037

And keep those messy brains shining bright.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

1315.305

Because who doesn't love a good book recommendation, right? Especially when it comes to understanding our messy, wonderful brains.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

1335.216

Right. It's this incredible concept called neuroplasticity, which basically means that our brains can change and adapt throughout our lives.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

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1351.754

Absolutely. It's never too late to start creating new neural pathways to build resilience and create a more peaceful inner world. And the Let Them Theory gives us the tools to do just that.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

1375.197

Exactly. It's like trying to run a marathon on an empty stomach. You just don't have the energy or focus to do your best. But when we learn to manage stress, we free up so much mental bandwidth to focus on the things that really matter.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

1389.185

Exactly. And that's where the let them theory comes in. It's not just about feeling less stressed. It's about unleashing your full potential in every area of your life.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

140.871

And this is where the let them theory comes in. It's about understanding this dynamic and developing tools to help you regain control, to quiet that panicked monkey and let the wise owl take back the reins.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

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1409.005

And the beauty of it is that it's not about adding another item to your already overflowing to-do list. It's about integrating simple, science-backed strategies into your daily routine.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

1423.732

Exactly. It's about creating small, sustainable habits that add up to big changes over time. And remember, you don't have to do it alone.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

1440.105

Absolutely. You'll find guided medications, expert tips, even a downloadable worksheet to help you identify your personal stress triggers.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

1449.93

Word of mouth is the best way to help us reach more people who are ready to ditch the overwhelm and embrace a more empowered way of life.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

1463.151

And keep those messy brains shining bright.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

1481.755

Because who doesn't love a good book recommendation, right? Especially when it comes to understanding our messy, wonderful brains.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

166.77

Oh, we've all been there. Sometimes that amygdala takes over before we even realize what's happening. I'm curious to hear how this plays into the idea of our brains being hijacked by stress.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

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191.669

It sounds like her amygdala perceived that cough as a genuine threat and bypassed her rational mind.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

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210.325

It's a perfect example of how stress can hijack our behavior. We all have those Mel moments where we react in ways that are out of proportion to the situation. But understanding the neuroscience behind it can help us become more aware of these patterns and choose a different response.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

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275.985

That's the key. And that's precisely what the Let Them Theory is all about, equipping you with tools to manage those stress responses so you can navigate life's ups and downs with more grace and ease.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

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294.608

Absolutely. Think about it. The average person has something like 70,000 thoughts per day. That's a lot of mental chatter for your brain to process. And a recent study in Nature Human Behavior found that a whopping 7 out of 10 people are experiencing chronic stress.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

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312.441

And my feeling of being frazzled isn't just in your head. Chronic stress actually leads to a cascade of physiological changes in your body. For example, it triggers the release of hormones like cortisol and adrenaline, which are designed to give you a burst of energy to deal with a threat.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

32.059

That's a really great way to put it, and it's incredibly common. Most people don't realize just how deeply stress affects our brains.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

331.542

Exactly. And while that's helpful in short bursts, when it becomes chronic, it can lead to a whole host of problems, from headaches and fatigue to more serious issues like heart disease and anxiety disorders.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

353.827

Absolutely. That's the good news. Our brains are incredibly adaptable and we can actually learn to rewire our stress response. And this is where the let them theory becomes really powerful.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

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366.095

It's a two-step approach that combines the power of mindset shifts with some simple but effective techniques for calming your nervous system. The first step is let them. This is all about detaching from the things you can't control.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

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382.565

Precisely. You're acknowledging the situation without getting emotionally entangled. And what's amazing is that when you consciously choose to detach, you're actually sending a signal to your amygdala to stand down.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

396.21

Exactly. You're giving your wise owl, that prefrontal cortex, a chance to step in and take charge. And that brings us to step two, let me.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

406.997

Let me is all about taking back control by focusing on what you can do to reset your nervous system. And one of the most powerful tools for this is the 4-4-4 breathing technique.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

418.684

You'd be surprised how powerful simple breathing exercises can be. The 4-4-4 method involves inhaling for four seconds, holding your breath for four seconds, and then exhaling for four seconds. It might sound too easy to be effective, but this technique directly stimulates the vagus nerve.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

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437.011

The vagus nerve is a major player in your body's relaxation response. It's like a superhighway connecting your brain to your heart, lungs, and digestive system. When you activate the vagus nerve through deep, rhythmic breathing, it sends a signal to your body that it's safe to relax and shift out of fight or flight mode.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

S1 EP4 | The Neuroscience of Stress | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins

457.839

Exactly. And the beauty of the 444 technique is that it's so easy to do anytime, anywhere. You can practice it in traffic, at your desk, even in the middle of a heated argument.

The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast

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It's all about creating a personalized script. For example, if you're feeling overwhelmed by work emails, you might say to yourself, let them pile up for a bit. Let me take a 15 minute break and come back with a fresh perspective.

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Exactly. You're shifting your focus from what's stressing you out to what you can do to feel more grounded and in control. And the more you practice this approach, the easier it becomes to interrupt that automatic stress response and choose a more empowered response.

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Absolutely. That's where the five-minute brain reset comes in. It's a quick and easy way to apply the let them let me approach anytime, anywhere.

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The first step is to acknowledge the stress. Name it out loud or to yourself. It could be something like, let them rush, let them be rude, or let them spread negativity.

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It's a classic stress response. And what's fascinating is that this reaction is deeply rooted in our evolutionary history. That feeling of overwhelm is your amygdala kicking in. It's this little almond-shaped part of your brain that acts as a sort of primal alarm system. You know, back in the caveman days, it was super helpful for things like dodging saber-toothed tigers.

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You got it. You're acknowledging its presence without giving it power over you. Then practice the 4-4-4 breathing we talked about earlier at least three rounds. It's like a mini meditation for your nervous system.

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The final step is to ask yourself, let me to regain control and fill in the blank with an action you can take.

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Exactly. Or if you're feeling overwhelmed by a looming deadline at work, it might be, let them pressure me. Let me break this project down into smaller, manageable tasks and create a realistic timeline.

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Precisely. And the beauty of the Let Them Theory is that it's not some complicated program. It's about incorporating simple science-backed strategies into your everyday life to build resilience and reclaim your peace of mind.

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See you in a sec.

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Oh, the micromanager, a true amygdala activator.

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It's so easy to internalize that kind of negativity, especially when it's coming from someone in a position of authority.

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How did that work out for her?

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That's brilliant. She shifted her attention from trying to control the uncontrollable to focusing on what she could control, her own actions and mindset.

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It's a perfect illustration of how the let them theory can be applied to all areas of life, not just those small everyday stressors.

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It's so inspiring to hear how a simple shift in perspective can have such a profound impact on someone's life.

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And those tools are available to everyone. It's about understanding the neuroscience of stress and using that knowledge to create positive change in your own life.

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I agree. Let's empower them to start taking control of their stress response.

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Sounds like a plan. The five-minute brain reset is something you can use anytime, anywhere you feel that familiar surge of stress.

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The first step is all about awareness. You need to acknowledge the stress, name it, and call it out. You can say it out loud or just think it to yourself. For instance, let them be late or let them create that drama or let that traffic jam frustrate everyone else.

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Exactly. You're observing it without getting swept up in the emotion. It's like saying, I see you stress, but you don't control me.

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Exactly. But here's the thing. In today's world, we're not usually facing life or death situations. But our amygdala hasn't quite caught up with modern times. It still reacts to traffic jams and work deadlines as if they were threats to our survival.

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Next comes the calming breath work. Remember that 4-4-4 technique we discussed? This is where it comes into play. Inhale deeply for a count of four, hold for four, and exhale slowly for four. Repeat this at least three times.

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It really is. And by consciously slowing down your breath, you're sending a direct message to your brain and body that it's okay to relax. You're activating that vagus nerve, putting the brakes on that runaway stress response.

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Now it's time to take back control. Ask yourself, let me to regain control and fill in that blank with an action you can take.

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Exactly. And the action you choose will depend on the situation. For example, if you're feeling overwhelmed by a to-do list a mile long, you might say, let me prioritize the top three tasks and delegate the rest. Or if you're feeling anxious about an upcoming presentation, you might say, let me rehearse my key points and visualize a successful outcome.

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Absolutely. And the more you practice this five-minute brain reset, the more it becomes second nature. You'll start to notice that you're less reactive to stress and you're better equipped to handle challenging situations with clarity and composure.

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Ah, yes, the micromanager, a classic source of stress for so many people. But the let them theory can be incredibly helpful in navigating these types of situations. Let's walk through an example, shall we?

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First, acknowledge the stress. Let them panic. You're recognizing their behavior without taking it personally.

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Then do a few rounds of 4-4-4 breathing. This will help you stay calm and centered, even if your boss is a whirlwind of nervous energy.

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This is where you get strategic. Instead of getting defensive or trying to argue with the micromanager, you might say to yourself, let me document my progress and proactively propose regular check-in meetings.

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Right. And what's even more interesting is what happens in the rest of the brain when this alarm system goes off. While your amygdala is screaming danger, it actually hijacks your prefrontal cortex. That's the part of your brain responsible for rational thinking, decision making and focus.

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Exactly. And the documentation piece is keys. It gives you concrete evidence to support your work and shows that you're on top of things, which can help ease their anxiety. You're essentially saying, I've got this and here's the proof.

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We'll be right back.

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Absolutely. And that's a win-win for everyone involved. It's a great example of how the Let Them Theory can help us create more positive and productive relationships, even in challenging circumstances.

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It's not about apathy. It's about freedom from unnecessary stress.

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Exactly. And there's a scientific basis for this, too. When we are stressed, our amygdala, the brain's fear center hijacks our rational thinking. It's like our internal alarm system is stuck on high alert.

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Precisely. But here's where Let Them gets interesting. When we consciously choose to let go of control, we engage our prefrontal cortex, which is the part of our brain that is responsible for, like, problem solving and decision making.

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Exactly. And this shift in brain activity allows for more effective responses to these challenging situations. Dr. Aditi Nihara, a leading stress expert, found that 70 percent of chronic stress comes from trying to control the uncontrollable. Let them helps break that cycle.

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Absolutely. But Mel takes the leap and she posts a 60-second video about her prom night epiphany. And what happens next is pretty remarkable.

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It's a testament to the power of vulnerability and the universality of this struggle with control. We all crave a sense of agency in our lives and LetThem offers a framework for achieving that without the unnecessary stress.

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It did. And I think one reason it resonated so deeply is because it provides a practical solution to a very common problem. This feeling of being overwhelmed by things that are outside our control. It gave people permission to just let go and focus on what truly matters.

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Absolutely. It's a deceptively simple concept, but with really profound implications.

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Absolutely. And to understand the practicality of let them, we need to dive into the framework itself. It's more than just a catchy phrase. It's a tool for navigating life's challenges with more grace and ease.

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Okay, so let's break it down. Step one is, as you might have guessed, let them. This involves acknowledging and accepting whatever is happening, whether it's someone's behavior, a frustrating situation, or even your own thoughts and emotions.

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Precisely. And that brings us to step two, let me.

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This is where you shift your focus inward instead of trying to change the external situation. You focus on your own boundaries well-being and next steps.

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You know, it's a subtle but really powerful shift. Let them is not about becoming passive or indifferent. It's about making conscious choices about where to invest your energy. And to illustrate this further, I think it's time we explore some real life examples of this framework in action.

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So let's dive into some real world scenarios. Imagine you're passed over for a promotion at work. It's so easy to get caught up in resentment and, you know, trying to figure out why your boss made that decision.

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You let them have their reasons, their perspective. Even if you don't agree with it, it doesn't mean you condone their actions. It simply means you're accepting a situation that you can't change. Then you shift to let me. OK, what actions can I take that serve my goals? Update my resume network, explore other opportunities.

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Exactly. Let's take another example. A friend constantly complains about their life but resists any advice you offer. Ooh, that's a tough one. Most people would either try harder to like fix the situation or get frustrated and withdraw.

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This framework seems to be about recognizing that you're not responsible for other people's emotions or choices.

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It's interesting because initially, Let them sounded a bit passive, but the way you're describing it, it actually seems quite empowering.

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So it's about taking responsibility for your own well-being rather than trying to force others to change. You're getting it. And this brings up another important point. Let them isn't about suppressing your emotions. It's not about pretending you're not frustrated, angry or hurt. It's about acknowledging those feelings, allowing yourself to experience them and then choosing how you respond.

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Precisely. It's about creating space between a stimulus and your reaction. In that space, you tap into your prefrontal cortex, their wise CEO of your brain, and you make a conscious, empowered decision.

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Exactly. Now, another point of confusion is mistaking let them for apathy or indifference. It's important to understand that it's not about disconnecting from the world or becoming callous to other struggles. It's about choosing where to direct your energy and compassion wisely.

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Sure. Let's say a friend is going through a tough time. Let them. You offer support and understanding, but you also recognize you can't fix their problems for them. Sometimes the most compassionate thing is to create healthy boundaries to protect your own well-being so you can show up more fully for them.

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Precisely. And navigating that balance is where the let them framework becomes invaluable.

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It's a good question. And honestly, there's no one size fits all answer. It requires a good dose of self-awareness, intuition and a willingness to experiment. But a guiding principle I find helpful is to ask, is this within my sphere of influence? If you can directly impact a situation through your actions or words, go for it.

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But if it's something outside your control, like someone else's behavior or a global pandemic, or as we heard earlier, teenagers at prom, in the rain, then let them becomes a really powerful tool for maintaining your sanity.

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Exactly. Let them helps you become strategic with your energy. It's about picking your spots for when to step in and when to allow things to unfold naturally.

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You're right. It does take practice. My advice is to start small. Choose one area where you tend to over control and experiment with let them.

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That's where things get really interesting. We focused on the mental and emotional benefits, but let them can have a ripple effect on our relationships, our careers, even our physical well-being.

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When we're constantly trying to control people, we're essentially saying, I don't trust you to make your own choices or I know better than you. And that can be so damaging to any relationship.

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Exactly. It breeds resentment, defensiveness, and it prevents genuine connection. But when we let them be who they are, flaws and all of it, we create space for true acceptance and intimacy.

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It is. And that shift in perspective can be incredibly liberating for both parties involved. Instead of constantly butting heads, you can start to see the other person's perspective, empathize with their struggles, and offer support without judgment. Imagine how much lighter your interactions would feel.

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Right. You're creating a space where everyone feels safe to be themselves without the pressure of meeting someone else's expectations. And in that space, relationships can flourish.

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Exactly. It's about giving people the space to grow and evolve in their own way, knowing that you can't force them down a path they're not ready for.

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Oh, the workplace is a breeding ground for control freaks. We've got deadlines, performance reviews, competition. It's so easy to get caught up in trying to control every outcome.

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Exactly. But let them offers a different approach. You acknowledge you can't control the economy, your boss's mood, or the decisions of upper management. Instead of stressing over those things, you focus on what you can influence. Your work ethic, your attitude, your skills.

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Precisely. It's about moving from a mindset of scarcity and competition to one of abundance and collaboration. Instead of viewing colleagues as rivals, you start to see them as allies, people you can learn from and support.

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It is. And when you're not constantly stressed and on edge, you're more likely to be creative, innovative and come up with new ideas. So let them can actually boost your career prospects by freeing up your mental energy and allowing you to tap into your full potential.

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Well, we talked about how chronic stress negatively impacts our brains, but it also takes a huge toll on our bodies. Stress hormones like cortisol suppress the immune system, disrupt sleep, and contribute to a whole host of health problems.

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Pretty much. But when we practice let them, we're lowering our stress levels. We're taking ourselves out of that constant fight or flight mode and allowing our bodies to relax and repair.

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It absolutely is. It's about prioritizing your well-being both mentally and physically. And when you feel calmer and more centered, you're better equipped to make healthy choices. Eating nutritious foods, exercising regularly, getting enough sleep. It all works together.

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Exactly. It's a holistic approach to well-being.

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Well, I'm glad to hear that. And I really hope our listeners feel empowered to experiment with let them in their own lives.

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Thanks for joining us on this messy, magical journey of self-discovery. We'll see you next time on The Messy Podcast.

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Yeah. And what's fascinating here is how this simple statement sparks a really profound realization for Mel. She starts questioning, like, why am I stressing over things that are totally outside of my control? And it's such a universal experience, isn't it? We've all been there trying to micromanage situations that are ultimately out of our hands. That's the seed of the let them philosophy.

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And for you to, you know, show up and do this and then teach this and help people, you know, kind of maybe step into their true self. You probably see a lot of that day to day. Is that is that the case?

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Great. And so look, if someone's watching this or listening, and they're probably confused right now, they're like, what the heck? What is going on? What does she do? Right?

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Can you just break down for everyone, like kind of how you help people?

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Yeah, I think it's interesting because, you know, when I'm not interviewing here on Legacy Makers, my personal brand is a big, you know, red, loud brand. And I have this famous signature red coat, right? And I think in the last couple of years since wearing it, I must attribute at least a million dollars back to this red coat, just from walking in rooms, on stages, people coming up to you.

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And I think for men, you know, the old school way or maybe still the current way is the flashy car or the Rolex or whatever's on your wrist, right? And I think that's great, but it's like a Rolex is, you know, X size, whereas a big red coat is much bigger and more eye-catching.

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And I think, again, like a lot of people would have more maybe style and more uniqueness to them, but they care so much about what other people think, they're too afraid to do that. So if someone's listening that's like, you know, they've seen a piece of clothing or something they would love to wear, but they've stopped themselves because they're too scared of judgment, what would you say?

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yeah i love that one of my friends is a guy called todd herman and he's got a book called the alter ego effect and he's done mindset with like kobe bryan a lot of the world's top athletes and what he teaches is this uh you step into this older ego with a an item so for someone it might be a wristband or They put a pair of socks on before an NBA game and they become this person.

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And it's very powerful in sports psychology with a lot of the world's best athletes he's worked with. And I can see that the same. Like, you know, I can kind of go from, you know, being in my shorts on my balcony. And then five minutes later, I'm in my red coat walking on Miami Beach. And, you know, the persona changes. Right. So it really does have that impact. How did you discover all this?

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So if someone's listening that's like, they've seen a piece of clothing or something they would love to wear, but they've stopped themselves because they're too scared of judgment, what would you say?

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Yeah, and how impactful it can be and all those things, yeah.

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Well, now that's become a business, the book and everything. So can you fast forward us to present day? How does the business model work?

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not very confident and didn't do very well with the opposite sex. And one day I just gave him a bunch of my old designer nice clothes and forced him to wear them and then got a haircut at my hairdresser. And it's like a before and after. And then his personality started to change just from clothes and a haircut, right? So why is that?

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hello and welcome back to another episode on the legacy makers podcast today jen is joining me and we're going to dive into a fascinating story and as you can probably see if you're watching it on video jen has quite the outfit jen welcome to the show thank you so much so let's kick off what's the story behind all this

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Yeah, we're talking a lot about fashion, but I think, you know, my background when I first got into entrepreneurship was in fitness and weight loss and personal training. And I actually saw this, I think it's kind of probably closely linked to like when someone loses 30 pounds, they become more, you know, obviously more energized and healthier. But the biggest change is actually their confidence.

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Jenn Koch Reveals How Style Transforms Identity, Business & Self-Worth

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You know, they wear nicer clothes, tighter clothes, they feel sexier. And then that actually helps them in many aspects of life outside of fitness, right? Like, getting in a better relationship, getting a promotion in their job, making more friends, going out more. And do you see the same when you work with someone?

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Jenn Koch Reveals How Style Transforms Identity, Business & Self-Worth

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Yeah. I've always loved fashion, so I see the benefit. But yeah, I mean, weight loss is a good comparison because I imagine it almost like you don't want to run, but then like the wind's gushing behind you on a downhill and you start like accidentally running and then momentum carries you. So sometimes you, you know, helping them in that initial phase is that push down the hill, right?

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Jenn Koch Reveals How Style Transforms Identity, Business & Self-Worth

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And then the momentum carries them. So what are some of the results that some of your clients see working with you?

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Jenn Koch Reveals How Style Transforms Identity, Business & Self-Worth

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And what about, you know, moving more into the book side, right? And what's next for you beyond that? Like, you know, we talk a lot in Legacy Makers about it might start with our past and our history and that creates adversity or something inside us that wants us to help people, right? Sure.

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Jenn Koch Reveals How Style Transforms Identity, Business & Self-Worth

736.938

Cool. Love it. So now moving into the whole legacy side, right? What does legacy mean to you?

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Jenn Koch Reveals How Style Transforms Identity, Business & Self-Worth

802.512

Yeah. So, I mean, look, it really maybe starts up front, right? On the outside with fashion, but it's really, you know, becoming your true self, finding your true self, you know, and the uniqueness behind you. Because I think we all as humans have something unique about us. But again, coming back to what I said, I think most people are kind of ingrained into this mold.

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Jenn Koch Reveals How Style Transforms Identity, Business & Self-Worth

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At least I came from England where you could never wear that or the red coat that I wear. You know, they put you in an asylum home. You've lost the plot, as we say in England. And I think America is more welcoming of all of these personality types and especially the big cities, right? Like L.A.,

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Jenn Koch Reveals How Style Transforms Identity, Business & Self-Worth

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you know la i walk around in my big red coat in miami and i'm not the only one with this crazy style right yeah um and i think that's the great thing about america and and there is more differences in all those personalities and groups so uh next question around legacy is you clearly have a lot of confidence right and i think that whole becoming your true self so great so someone's listening and they're like yeah i really want to do this right i want to

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Jenn Koch Reveals How Style Transforms Identity, Business & Self-Worth

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I love that. And I think, you know, through my life as an entrepreneur, I mean, one of my I always say my biggest traits is I don't care about what other people think about me. And one of the worst things in life is I think everyone goes through life caring so much about, you know, other people's opinion. Right.

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Jenn Koch Reveals How Style Transforms Identity, Business & Self-Worth

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I like that. Good. Last couple of questions around legacy. A hundred years from now, what do you think people will say about you?

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Jenn Koch Reveals How Style Transforms Identity, Business & Self-Worth

965.683

Yeah, it's fascinating. It's a reoccurring trend of all the successful people, you know, that are part of legacy makers from pro athletes to A-list celebrities to people that have built $100 million companies and best-selling books, gone through it all. There's one common trend is the failures along the way that got them there. So I'm excited to tune in.

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Jenn Koch Reveals How Style Transforms Identity, Business & Self-Worth

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If someone's watching just to finish, where do they find you? How do they learn more about you and maybe get some help from you?

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Jenn Koch Reveals How Style Transforms Identity, Business & Self-Worth

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Okay, love it. Love it. Well, that's a wrap as always. Keep working to build your legacy and we'll see you soon. Take care.

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Brian Tracy’s Legacy: The Mindset, Method, and Millionaire Blueprint

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The impossible has happened.

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Brian Tracy’s Legacy: The Mindset, Method, and Millionaire Blueprint

98.155

Oh, that is sensational. Open. Chicago was the lead.

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Carrie Drinkwine on Healing What Medicine Couldn't Fix

225.635

Yeah, it's crazy.

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Carrie Drinkwine on Healing What Medicine Couldn't Fix

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Oh, that is sensational. Jordan. Open. Chicago with the lead.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

Everyone's a Critic

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One and done.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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1040.903

We just went for it.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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1042.947

This was back when pre-tapes were insisted upon and underfunded.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Maybe there's still one person who will buy it.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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1182.287

There was, there's a fourth beat and I'm trying to remember what it was.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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I think after it aired, it felt to me similar to Seth's all-time favorite, Wish It Would Rain, where we cut a bunch after dress and we're like, you know what? Maybe the point of that was that it was annoyingly long.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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We've done cuts before that I was really happy about, though, like Boombox, where we lifted a verse and a chorus, and it felt like the exact right length for an SNL audience, you know? Yeah.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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And then this one, I don't know. I'd have to see it again to know.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Paul Rudd and Vampire Weekend.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Oh, well, no, not this time you hosted.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Paul McCartney?

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Oh, that was the next time. Yeah. I was in a live sketch. Oh, Beyonce. Beyonce!

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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I think maybe, correct me if I'm wrong, gentlemen, I had a note written down in my ideas notes that was just, may I paint you?

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Well, when he wrote it, it was just me and him. Right. And in the video, there's only two dancers with her. Yeah. So it made sense. But then somehow via Higgins, he was like, I think Justin's in town or Justin's around. Yeah. and was like, we're going to ask him to be in this.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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And then Justin, I think, told a story in one of those documentaries that he was instrumental in convincing Beyonce to do the sketch at all.

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Yeah, I remember going in there with him to talk to her about it and her being very sweet and leaving and not knowing if she was 100% down or not. And then it happened.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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For sure. I also have said many times throughout my life since SNL that when people ask me who's the most incredible person

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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music performance you ever saw while you were there for me it's her and prince probably are the two yeah in terms of like watching a person that no one else can do what they're doing physically and creatively at the same time yeah it was kind of mind-blowing watching her do single ladies live agreed we watched every rehearsal because we were just like how is this happening

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Yeah, like the Titanic moment, but being, we were already friendly with Rudd and knowing that he had done all that Stella stuff and would like that tone and being like, that's a good start for something is me going into his dressing room and being like, may I paint you? And then cutting to the Titanic shot. And then that was all we had.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Oh, man. Can we ask Dina?

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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That's what I was about to say. It's such like rare air to be like, that's the bit because everyone's thinking it.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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And I think then we just started pitching on weird things that could happen with it, and it evolved. That sounds right.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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1756.765

And what's the exact phrasing on the last line of it, Seth?

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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It had to be before we shot.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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There you go.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Well, I was crazy geeked because I was doing something with Beyonce.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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But I mean, you know, no matter what, it's like going to be a news item, an entertainment news item. Right. It's the modern equivalent of like when Ariana Grande sings Sabrina Carpenter's song. Like it's just things that are super red hot in that moment.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Where you're like, oh, I see. This is like very relevant to pop culture at this exact moment. And when you're doing it, the audience is aware of that and you're getting extra juice off of that for sure.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Like live? Yeah. I don't know. It's an interesting question.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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I mean, if so, it's because it was Beyonce and Justin doing something together.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Now everyone does it. His signature style that has been ripped off a million times.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Beautiful.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Check this out, guys. Love that we've all heard that story. My thought was, man, what's up with dudes and our rage? And why do we always want to break stuff when we're mad? And Jorm was like, I bet Shoemaker's got a robot leg. You should get him a soccer ball.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Keith, what was your takeaway?

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Righteous Kill. Oh, Righteous Kill. Oh, Righteous Kill. Have we ever talked about Righteous Kill as a saying?

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Akiva, when it came out, or when it was not even out yet, it was about to come out, the movie Righteous Kill, said he was going to try and start that as a thing. Wait, it was Keeve that said that?

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Yeah, we said it a lot.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Righteous kill. Yeah. I still say it all the time. So when someone says something that you would normally say like right on or righteous, you go, oh, righteous kill. Righteous kill. And Keeve and I still, every now and again, when we text each other something, we'll just send the poster of the movie.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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I get so self-conscious. Here. Maybe a little music will help you relax. Oh, I love this. Yeah. Yeah.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Hey, look. If even one person...

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Jost will still sometimes text, who does Equate have to blow to get a Molson's around here?

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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I agree with everything you said, Keeve. And I would say ultimately, I don't think it's criterion. Yeah. But it definitely falls into the category of I'm proud of it and like it a lot.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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For sure.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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You know what?

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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This one goes way more arched, but I would also say you could sort of categorize it tonally and pace-wise with the Jonah's dad one. Yeah. Which is like a story that takes place at the studio and then sort of branches out from there. But yeah, it's good stuff. And like, look, there's no one we love more than Rudd. He's just like the greatest.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Yeah, Jorm says that a lot.

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The fact that it was with Tina and that halfway through the sketch, she, as Palin, turns to a new camera and goes, okay, y'all, I'm going rogue. Yeah. Which had been like a news story. for weeks about how Palin was going rogue and throwing off the election for them. And he was in it, was so wild.

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I remember being like, as a person who really doesn't care about politics most of the time, especially at that time, I was like, I can't fucking believe he's doing this.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Also, it reminded me of when I was growing up watching SNL, when there was that sketch where Lovitz was Dukakis. Oh, yeah. Or keeps cutting back and forth. I can't believe I'm losing to this guy. But it was as if Dukakis was in that sketch. You know what I mean?

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Like the real one. McCain doing it.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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It definitely, I would argue, changed the way those got made and still continues together.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Anyway, it is good. I've heard it. It spoke to you.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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I believe, Keev and Jorm, that we maybe wrote into the script, it's like a terrible song. And then we shot it. Because my recollection now is when I first saw the first edit was the first time I heard what you guys had made and laughing so hard.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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I think you recorded it after we shot.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Just the same one twice in a row. But I would say the second shot is a tasteful length. Yeah, sure. Pun very much intended.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Can I rewind?

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Isn't that cool? What if I didn't have anything to say? I just wanted to make that sound. The moment when he's painting me and he says, how about some music? And he turns it on and I go, oh, I love this song. Thinking that maybe now we didn't know what the music was going to be, it does make sense that our plan was that it would be a different song, the way I say it. It definitely does.

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I'm sure it was going to be. I'm sure it was going to be. But instead, it's me saying, oh, I love this song about the same song that I just told him was me singing is so crazy. Yeah. And I like it a lot. Yeah.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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It's very supple.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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I feel like me and Rudd are known for our stony disposition.

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Yeah, yeah. I see what you mean.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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That's what's making them all have that problem. I mean, Keeve, no one calls John Cusack John Cusack and being John Malkovich. And yet.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Same exact thing to the same level of success.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Oh my God. I'm going to piggyback your craziness and agree. Yeah. Wow.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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A lot going on there.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Yeah. Like for real, for real, no fucking lie. I would work with any of those guys.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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We're stockpiling because Seth has a vacation.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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I laughed way more than I was expecting rewatching that. I'd forgotten a lot of things.

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As far as I'm concerned, that podcast is the enemy.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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And the timing of it is really perfect. I believe Keev and Jorm coached them very meticulously to be like, she screams and then everyone else starts screaming. It feels like it's from a movie in a good way.

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Yes.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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I think it's one of many, Seth, which is like there's something that makes people just start taking their own lives because it's so horrific or they're out of control of their own brains.

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I remember being really happy about getting that in.

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It's right up there with like the perspective shots in Lord of the Rings where they make Gandalf look super tall. Yeah, it's the same as that. But they're actually it's just in camera.

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Would work with, yes.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Yeah, once we watched it, I was like, yes, of course, now that would be there.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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He speaks like, I'm just the most normal person you've ever met in your life. Yeah, so I just kind of thought that would be the thing. It's the craziest thing.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Yeah.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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There's a musicality to it.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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FRANCESC CAMPOY, Greetings from Iceland. Bye. Bjork out. MARK MANDELMANN, Also, this is Bjork.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Again, that seems like a bit, though.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Is it a bit or is it that they just.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Yeah.

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Just like, why? Just send us a voice note explaining.

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Yeah.

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Oh, man. That's interesting.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Because that's the best one. I haven't. Oh, wow. You should check that out right now, dude.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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No, but after seeing the Family Trips merch, I'm kind of fucking jealous because I thought that design was cool. It is a cool design. Shout out Family Trips, guys. Shout out Family Trips.

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Please. Where'd you guys get the names Sashi and Pashi or whatever you guys call each other? Sufi and Pashi? Yeah, Sufis. Just, you know, growing up. Just being cool guys growing up. So it wasn't like one of you guys souffled eggs a lot or something like that?

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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So it has nothing to do with eggs.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Andy, at one point, wanted to write a song called How to Write a Comedy Song, and then we realized too quickly that we were like, oh, no, that's just giving away all the secrets. LAUGHTER

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When you said, Andy, that we've made hundreds of songs for a second, it sounded hyperbolic. And then I was like, no, that's accurate.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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It's basically the type of person that says, I'm the type of person who.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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I just like the idea of Lauren challenging anyone to a physical challenge.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Let's run. Let's see who can hit that signpost first.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Yeah.

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Yeah. I was blown away at how, one, nice they were about it. But also, Mike is a Harvard guy. Correct me if I'm wrong. Yes? Famously. Famously a Harvard guy. Just the most eloquent, succinct, like the way I speak, but like a little bit better. You know what I mean? Yeah. And so the generosity plus that to me was like, I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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That's true.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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That is the second person I've heard who has said that they're, well, it was a kid, a friend of mine who thought it meant whiz. Oh, shit. And then they had to explain to their nine-year-old what jizz was. And they were like, thanks a lot for that video.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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And we're back in business.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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I'm sorry. There's no way that you can be like, who souffles a guy whose family is going horseback riding? He might grow up souffle-ing. That's possible. Jesus Christ. That's possible. That's what you brought it back to souffle with?

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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I will say the uncensored version, I think it's made much better as a song for being uncensored.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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But to me, I actually think that it's a funnier song because that character, I think, is more surprising that they're saying motherfucking pigs. Personally.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Usually it doesn't matter to me. And this one, I think, is actually a funnier song unbleeped.

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1978.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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I have a razor-sharp memory, so no, I never forget anything.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Yeah. It was the one where the video that I remember was where they're rocking so hard that they're blowing people's clothes off with their rock. And I can't remember what the name of the song was.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Eagles? It was Eagles of Death Metal.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Oh, man. That's great, Seth. You're so forgetful. You're really yorming this one.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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I'm just making everyone else say something. Here Comes the Sun by The Beatles.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Yeah, I did because the reviews for Hot Rod came out and you couldn't hide your frown in the wedding photos.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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So every time I look at my wedding photos, I'm like, man, Hot Rod really shat the bed in that variety.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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It fucking is. I'll put it in the comments. I was in the wedding party, Seth. Oh, yeah. Sorry, Andy, you're not going to tell us your song that you walked down the aisle to? Doesn't remember. Yes, fuck yeah. Like a steel trap, my memory.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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There were a lot of pretty talented musicians at your wedding. It was a good time. The Lonely Island was there.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Couldn't afford you.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Be hard pressed to get an I do out of your lady at the end of that.

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While we're coming off of, you know, people ranking our stuff, so rank away, I'd say.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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I got to say, we all went to UCs and none of us say that. Do you say that, Andy? You say, I should note?

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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No, never in my life have I said that.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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Yeah, the whole flight.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

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I mean, the specificity of that.

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They should be sued.

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Can we ask him if we can post that photo?

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And Devin's hair is a little mop toppy, I would say. The guy who owns it, who is a friend of ours from back in the day.

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Yeah, those are the five I would have. I think that's fair. I do, as we've talked about, I do argue that laser cats one should be a part of that.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

Listener Q&A Episode 2

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You're like honoring the concept that we did it for each year. We did one per year. I agree with that.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

Listener Q&A Episode 2

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Yes, I've seen definitely microbreweries who have made beers based on it. Yeah.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

Listener Q&A Episode 2

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It's a wonderful Berkeley institution that's been around for like 50 years.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

Listener Q&A Episode 2

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Yes. Andy, speaking of ones that got a little bit more shine than I was expecting, did you write to Shur about Roy Rules? Because I was very surprised that they both seemed to enjoy it as much as they did.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

Listener Q&A Episode 2

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No, but those guys definitely seem to have thought it through.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

Listener Q&A Episode 2

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I would say that it goes in the laser cats category to me too, that it almost encapsulates like extreme activities challenge, like that there's a certain type of short that I would almost lump them all and be like, this is the same style of stupid beat, fast editing, surprise stuff. An Akiva font.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

Listener Q&A Episode 2

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Did you feel, because when I was six years old, my dad took me to Telegraph Avenue, which is where all the cool stuff is, which is where Amoeba was, which is where Rasputin's was. And Rasputin's back in the day was like fucking punk. It was super punk. Not anymore.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

Listener Q&A Episode 2

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yes and i went in to buy thriller my dad didn't want to park so i was given money as a six-year-old to go buy thriller and i got thriller as an lp and i put it on the shelf and it was a straight up like london punk crazy mohawk like just tatted up and i just remember his face looking at me being like this and i and i knew what i was buying wasn't cool he was just like this kid

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

Listener Q&A Episode 2

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Yeah. You know what I mean? Right. But was Kim's video that cool? Where the people who work there, are they just nerds?

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

Listener Q&A Episode 2

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I still want that.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

Listener Q&A Episode 2

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Palm Springs, probably not. But Popstar, yes. 100% Popstar.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

Listener Q&A Episode 2

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Yeah, and then we kind of build the song as we go forward with it.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

Listener Q&A Episode 2

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That one's a good one because I feel like each part is pretty funny in its own specific lane.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

Listener Q&A Episode 2

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I don't know how we started doing it, but I think we hadn't had enough work throughout the week. So then when bands would rehearse at SNL, we were like, hey, let's record me dancing in front of them. I don't know why we thought that that would be okay. It's on 8H. It's like the whole crew is watching it.

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

Listener Q&A Episode 2

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Wait, is that right? That was my birthday?

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

Listener Q&A Episode 2

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Oh, my God. How embarrassing. How embarrassing. Yeah, I like dancing. I like dancing and I like getting naked. So I think that, you know, we just started filming them. And I don't know when we would release them. Would we release them that night?

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1549 - Democrats Put Their Demonic Hatred For America On Full Display Last Night

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Would it have been healing to stand for Mark Fogle? Might have been.

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1519 - The Dawn Of A New America

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President Trump, cartels are now going to be seen as foreign terror organizations. Would you think about ordering U.S. special forces into Mexico to take them out?

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1519 - The Dawn Of A New America

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Mr. President, going back to the World Health Organization.

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1531 - Another Insane Government Money Laundering Scheme REVEALED

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This was one of the big reasons that we all won, and it's one of the big reasons that we had a record, a landslide like they haven't seen before, very often anyway. And who could forget last year's Paris Olympics where a male boxer stole the woman's gold medal after brutalizing his female opponent so viciously that she had to forfeit just after 46 seconds. And she was a championship fighter.

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1531 - Another Insane Government Money Laundering Scheme REVEALED

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And actually they had two women or two people that transitioned and both of them won gold medals and they won them very convincingly. But all of that ends today because with this executive order, the war on women's sports is over.

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1531 - Another Insane Government Money Laundering Scheme REVEALED

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If you're a man, it's required that you grow a beard. Hey!

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1531 - Another Insane Government Money Laundering Scheme REVEALED

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You mean the laptop is now another Russia, Russia, Russia hoax? That's exactly what... Is this where you're going?

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1526 - Democrats Shill For Big Pharma In RFK Jr Confirmation Hearing

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If you're a man, it's required that you grow up in hate.

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1526 - Democrats Shill For Big Pharma In RFK Jr Confirmation Hearing

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For me, Captain America represents a lot of different things, and I don't think the term, you know, America should be one of those representations. Like, it's about a man who keeps his word, who has honor, dignity, and integrity. Someone who is trustworthy and dependable. You know, it's kind of... This is kind of like an aspect of a dream coming true.

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1526 - Democrats Shill For Big Pharma In RFK Jr Confirmation Hearing

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You know, when I was a kid, you know, all of us as actors, I believe, want to get back to that day before someone told you no. When you look out your door and you see a five-year-old kid with a stick and he's slaying dragons to save the princess in the tower, that kid really believes there are dragons out there. That stick is really a sword and he's really trying to save that princess.

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1526 - Democrats Shill For Big Pharma In RFK Jr Confirmation Hearing

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And then one day somebody told him, no, there are no dragons. That's not a sword. And that princess is not there. And all of his little dreams were dashed. So, you know, as an actor, I feel like our job is to get back to the day when we see that dragon and we slayed that dragon to save that princess. And that's kind of what this movie was for me.

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1521 - Trump Wages All Out War On DEI

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Let's get to the comment section.

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1521 - Trump Wages All Out War On DEI

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Yeah, I think that that, frankly, is the argument. I mean, I think that, you know, as well as I do, that there are a few things that President Trump said in those rallies more than that he would get rid of the woke ideology and he would get rid of DEI practices and instead put back what they call meritocracy type style governments where people are where basically it's race blinds. Right.

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1521 - Trump Wages All Out War On DEI

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People are promoted by their own merits, they say. And so they believe that this is a fulfillment of those promises that Trump made on the stage.

The Matt Walsh Show

I'm Canceling Christmas Trees

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The Christmas tree certainly seems to inspire a love-hate relationship. All that time is spent selecting it and decorating it. And then a week after, it's just thrown somewhere. You see it by the side of the road. It looks like a mob hit. Car slows down, the door opens, and this tree just rolls out. Boom, boom, boom. People snap out of that Christmas spirit like it was a drunken scooper.

The Matt Walsh Show

I'm Canceling Christmas Trees

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They just wake up one morning and go, oh my God, there's a tree inside the house. Just throw it anywhere.

The Matt Walsh Show

I'm Canceling Christmas Trees

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My tree.

The Matt Walsh Show

I'm Canceling Christmas Trees

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This isn't the biggest bag over the head punch in the face I ever... Damn it!

The Matt Walsh Show

I'm Canceling Christmas Trees

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Son of a...

The MeidasTouch Podcast

MeidasTouch RESPONDS to BREAKING NEWS - 1/27/25

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Coffee from Columbia. We actually make our own coffee here, too, in Kona, in Hawaii, right? There's multiple things coming out of our neighbors' countries that aren't sort of reducible to one thing, but I think that's part of what the media has been articulating this entire time, arguing that the GOP reduces humans to an identity, but really it's them shoving these countries into boxes.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

MeidasTouch RESPONDS to BREAKING NEWS - 1/27/25

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President Trump sees them as partners.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

MeidasTouch RESPONDS to BREAKING NEWS - 1/27/25

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Yeah, what's interesting is Trump's trying to bring about a world where he'll drop the rate for companies that actually come here and make some of that stuff to 15% tax rate.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

MeidasTouch RESPONDS to BREAKING NEWS - 1/27/25

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So we might not have to miss coffee or whatever they think they're going to miss that we can clearly make our own, but maybe not as much of, because maybe some of those countries will come here and they'll package their stuff or distribute it from here.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

MeidasTouch RESPONDS to BREAKING NEWS - 1/27/25

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Ben, how could Joe Biden possibly offer pardons to people around him? How dare he? How could he think of even doing that? Can you think about our democracy?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

MeidasTouch RESPONDS to BREAKING NEWS - 1/27/25

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I'm talking to General El-Sisi tomorrow sometime. And I'd like Egypt to take me, but I'd like Jordan to take me, but I couldn't. You're talking about probably a million and a half people. And we just clean out that whole thing. You know, over the centuries, that's had many, many conflicts. And I don't know. Something has to happen.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

MeidasTouch RESPONDS to BREAKING NEWS - 1/27/25

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In particular, in the very near future, we're going to be placing tariffs on foreign production of computer chips, semiconductors, and pharmaceuticals to return production of these essential goods to the United States of America. They left us and they went to Taiwan, which is about 98% of the chip business, by the way. And we want them to come back.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

MeidasTouch RESPONDS to BREAKING NEWS - 1/27/25

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And we don't want to give them billions of dollars like this ridiculous program that Biden has. Give everybody billions of dollars. They already have billions of dollars. They've got nothing but money, Joe. They didn't need money. They needed an incentive. And the incentive is going to be they're not going to want to pay a 25, 50 or even 100 percent tax.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

MeidasTouch RESPONDS to BREAKING NEWS - 1/27/25

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They're going to build their factory with their own money. We don't have to give them money. They're going to come in because it's good for them to come in. They're giving them money. They don't even know what they're going to do with it. I had people tell me, we have no idea. We don't need money. They don't know.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

MeidasTouch RESPONDS to BREAKING NEWS - 1/27/25

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How would you like to be the pilot of a plane? You got two pilots up there and you got 300 people sitting in a plane. Every one of them, either a murderer, a drug lord, a kingpin of some kind, the head of the mob, or a gang member. And you're flying that plane, it's not gonna end well. You ever see the movie Con Air? That's what, yeah, except here's the difference.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

MeidasTouch RESPONDS to BREAKING NEWS - 1/27/25

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The people in Con Air were actors. They weren't nearly as tough as these guys. I would say that that plane would be gone before it ever left. Those pilots would be gone before it ever left. So they don't want us to shackle them.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

FED UP Dems Finally PUT THE SCREWS in House GOP

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Well, I think from a national security perspective, as he said, you know, certainly a place that is very rich in minerals and, you know, is geopolitically important for him. And it's a conversation that we want to have with Denmark about being able to use the use the resources up there.

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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What are your thoughts on the exotic car rental market? And like basically high end Turo, like have you ever thought about the like terrible Lamborghinis and Rolls Royces where people renting them out?

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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Are there certain assets that you want to buy and just hold forever? Are there certain things you just hold?

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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Okay, so let's break that down. There's a lot of fun.

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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So there's a lot of memes and news articles this last few months in particular about Birkin bags. Now all these girls love to post about these news articles saying that Birkin bags are actually beating the S&P 500 as an investment.

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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So a lot of times when people, we are preconditioned to think, oh, you buy a Lamborghini or you buy a Bentley, you buy a Mercedes. The second you drive off the lot, it's down 10%, 20% or some number that people just make up.

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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So I'll buy it for this. I'll sell it for that. I pay 70 cents on the dollar.

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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Yeah, in the sports card market, I like supply and demand. So I focus on cards that are a PSA 9 or PSA 10, which is the grading company, that have a limited supply. The problem is a lot of people want, I just want that Ken Griffey Jr. card from the 80s. Yeah, but they made tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of that card. That's why it doesn't have a sustainable value.

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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But like the Michael Jordan rookie car, the PSA 10, well, we know there's exactly this many units all over the world and the supply keeps getting smaller.

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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So there was Logan Paul bought a card for $5 million.

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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So my friend Travis and I, we bought 20% of it. So from his $5 million, we bought $1 million of that card. Within 10 seconds, he got an offer for over $7 million from a big auction house. And he turned it down, obviously, because he's rich and it's Logan. And now, because he's marketed so much, he iced it out and wears it at wrestling matches, etc.

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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Now there's some really big interesting offers that have come. because of that card being a one of one in the car market, watch market, etc. How much does it matter to go after things that have limited supply?

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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On the storage and safety side. So I bought cars, but I only have a two car garage or I bought watches, but I live in an apartment. Are there storage facilities or safe, you know, safety deposit box? Are there ways to store stuff like this?

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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So let's say I'm 26 year old kid. I saved up some money. I bought three watches. Let's say I bought one for 15 grand. Someone offers me 20 or 22 or 24. How the heck do I decide when it's time to sell?

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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So there's a famous quote, don't get high on your own supply. How do you not do that when you get a cool car and you're 26 years old? How do you not go drive that Lamborghini?

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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So someone's out there, they've started making money, saving money, wealth preservation. They're doing all these things and they finally got a real chunk of capital now and they want to go into real estate. What are your thoughts about real estate? What parts of it do you teach?

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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So there's some guys we know on social media like Dan MI, Andy Frisella, et cetera, that might have 40, 50, 60 cars sitting in a garage that are not being driven. How are those on the appreciation-depreciation scale?

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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ladies and gentlemen welcome to a very special edition of the money mondays podcast as you guys know 99 of the time i record inside of an rv motorhome traveling around the country but we actually have someone in the car industry so i should have my motorhome here but i just found out that he happened to be in town he was here from florida so we decided let's knock out a podcast so we're here in this amazing studio in santa monica brentwood area now as you guys know we cover three core topics how to make money and invest money how to give away to charity

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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All right. So we talked about the make money side, the investing money side. Let's talk about the giveaway money side on charity. Why do you think it's important for people to have some type of charity component to their life or for their family?

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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I like it. So where can people find you across social media? Where can they find the different things you've been talking about today?

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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All right, guys, this is a fascinating episode. Not our typical episode of asking certain questions because the luxury assets that he's been talking about, we've just had in our minds for so many years that it's automatically a liability. And he's explaining and he's teaching about how to make it into an actual investment and wealth preservation.

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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The whole point of the Money Mondays is you have to have discussion with your friends, family, and followers about money. We all grew up thinking it's rude to talk about money. I think that's ridiculous. We have to be able to have blunt discussions the way he was just explaining, how much does this cost? How much did I invest in this? How much did I waste on this? How much did I spend on this?

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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How much did I make on this? And it's blunt and straightforward so we can learn for ourselves so we don't get screwed on things. So we might be able to buy things better. We might realize, hey, maybe we shouldn't lease a car because what he explained. You have to have a discussion with your friends, family, and followers about money.

The Money Mondays

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thank you guys for liking commenting subscribing we'll see you guys next monday on moneymondays.com

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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You said something in there that said someone, they couldn't buy it on the new car market. So is that because something only has like 50 or 100 units, like people can't go buy it? Or because Ferrari sometimes has a list of, you have to previously have a Ferrari to buy this Ferrari?

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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So you also mentioned the Training Academy. What are you training? How does it work? What's the concept behind it?

The Money Mondays

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On this podcast, typically our episodes are 32 to 40 minutes because the average workout is 45 minutes. The average commute to work is 45 minutes. So you'll be able to listen to this episode in under 40 minutes for your listening pleasure. Now, without further ado, I'm going to have our guests give us a quick two-minute bio so we can get straight to the money.

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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So fascinating. So I used to own a jewelry store in my former life in 2008. I opened up in downtown San Diego by the stadium, by Petco Park. I called it Platinum Collections. I had Sammy the jeweler running one side of it. We had these Dunamis watches, the floating diamond watches there.

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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2008, we started selling them. And it was a fascinating business because the margins were nuts.

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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But I was able to give like 20, 30, 40, 50% off and still be making 20, 30, 40, 50%. Exactly.

The Money Mondays

Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi 💎 E122

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So if someone out there is listening and wants to learn from you, are they the someone that's like, that wants to actually own a jewelry store, own a website to sell jewelry, or they're just someone that's in the mix?

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Why the Tech Giant Nvidia May Own the Future. Plus, Joshua Rothman on Taking A.I Seriously

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There was a panic because it used an older version of NVIDIA chips. It used antiquated NVIDIA chips, not the cutting-edge ones. And so they retooled these old chips to get state-of-the-art performance, which really shocked and surprised a lot of people.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Why the Tech Giant Nvidia May Own the Future. Plus, Joshua Rothman on Taking A.I Seriously

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I think so. It seems like the results are legit. You know, and NVIDIA was the most valuable corporation on earth. And so it's going to have these kind of wild swings. For a long time, all of his manufacturing came from the Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Corporation.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Why the Tech Giant Nvidia May Own the Future. Plus, Joshua Rothman on Taking A.I Seriously

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They're the ones who really, the only ones who had the capability to build these advanced microchips so they would outsource production to Taiwan. Why couldn't he bring it here? Because Taiwanese engineers work 14 hours a day, six to seven days a week, and they're incredibly dedicated and incredibly gifted, computers kind of segmented into almost two spheres.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Why the Tech Giant Nvidia May Own the Future. Plus, Joshua Rothman on Taking A.I Seriously

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All of the hardware was going to be built in Asia, and all the software was going to be built in Silicon Valley. And, you know, each side was just going to pursue its kind of competitive advantage. And that's unchangeable. It was unchangeable. Now, with Trump, it's starting to look a lot different. The Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Corporation is coming to the U.S.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Why the Tech Giant Nvidia May Own the Future. Plus, Joshua Rothman on Taking A.I Seriously

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They're making the single largest foreign direct investment in the history of the United States. And they're building this incredibly huge factory on the outskirts of Phoenix where it's so hot that they have to put ice in the concrete to pour it so that it sets. The thing they're building out there is huge. It looks like an airport.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Why the Tech Giant Nvidia May Own the Future. Plus, Joshua Rothman on Taking A.I Seriously

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And once they're done, it will probably be capable of doing most of the manufacturing for NVIDIA. And in fact, NVIDIA is banned from selling its most advanced equipment to China.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Why the Tech Giant Nvidia May Own the Future. Plus, Joshua Rothman on Taking A.I Seriously

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Now, maybe what's happening is that people are starting to say, hey, this kind of like labor advantage that Asia had over the United States for a long time, maybe in the age of robots, that labor advantage is going to go away. And then it doesn't matter where we put the factory. The only thing that matters is if, you know, is there enough power to supply it?

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Why the Tech Giant Nvidia May Own the Future. Plus, Joshua Rothman on Taking A.I Seriously

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And is there any geopolitical risk involved? And so in an age where robots are doing most of the work in the factory, I think the calculus of globalization and offshoring starts to look very different.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Why the Tech Giant Nvidia May Own the Future. Plus, Joshua Rothman on Taking A.I Seriously

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Jensen loves Taiwan. He loves it. It's where he was born. He speaks Taiwanese natively. He goes back all the time, and he's a folk hero there. He's in the night markets buying food, just like a normal guy.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Why the Tech Giant Nvidia May Own the Future. Plus, Joshua Rothman on Taking A.I Seriously

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Taiwan has long benefited from what they call the Silicon Shield. I was just in Taiwan, I should mention. And it was the only thing anyone talked about was the relationship between NVIDIA and TSMC. And if that relationship collapses or deteriorates, and if NVIDIA no longer needs Taiwan, well, then what happened?

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Why the Tech Giant Nvidia May Own the Future. Plus, Joshua Rothman on Taking A.I Seriously

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The barriers, the barriers to entry for building a neural net are quite low. Actually, a student can do it. Um, The barriers to entry to shipping several billion microchips each year are very high. Competitors who've tried to compete with NVIDIA just haven't been able to bring the juice. They can't match what NVIDIA can do. Is anybody trying? They're trying. Oh, yeah, a lot of people are trying.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Why the Tech Giant Nvidia May Own the Future. Plus, Joshua Rothman on Taking A.I Seriously

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But when they try and bring it to the AI scientists, the AI scientists use it a little bit. And one of two things happen. Either it's not fast enough or the scientists have to rewrite a million lines of code to make it work. The biggest competitor on the horizon is Huawei or some other kind of Chinese manufacturer.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Why the Tech Giant Nvidia May Own the Future. Plus, Joshua Rothman on Taking A.I Seriously

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Because NVIDIA can't sell its advanced equipment to China, it's illegal, this actually creates room in China for other firms to move. And in fact, this, I was recently in China, this was the question everyone was asking. How can we build basically NVIDIA China? We think we have the talent. We think we have the work ethic. You know, we think we have the equipment. Like, what do we need to do?

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Why the Tech Giant Nvidia May Own the Future. Plus, Joshua Rothman on Taking A.I Seriously

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Because NVIDIA is always leapfrogging ahead. So NVIDIA, they're like the fashion business. They have a fall and spring release cycle. Right. And they're constantly packing the latest features into their microchip. So it's going to take you a year or two to knock off what they just built. And by that time, it's irrelevant. It's obsolete. This stuff moves so fast.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Why the Tech Giant Nvidia May Own the Future. Plus, Joshua Rothman on Taking A.I Seriously

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Oh, I have thought about this so much. I'll tell you something. This is going to sound weird, but hear me out. You know, I did a ton of interviews for this book, a couple hundred hours of interviews, tons of research. I mean, you've done this, you know what it's like. And maybe 1% of what you do ends up in the book.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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And you're constantly having to make these tough editorial decisions about what to keep and what to toss, trying to guess or extrapolate what the kind of general median reader is going to want to read. But what if you knew more about the reader? What if, for example, the reader was coming to you and saying, you know, I have 10 years of microchip manufacturing engineering experience.

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I want this book to be more technical. Or what if they're a student and I want this book to be less technical and easier to read and more explanatory? And then the AI takes the skeleton of what you've written and rewrites it on the fly to meet the demands of the reader. That's actually possible. We could do that.

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When you interact with a system like ChatGPT, like say everyone's rendering their image right now as Studio Ghibli kind of anime, it takes your request and it sends it back through a giant broadband data pipe to a huge data center. And inside that data center is a warehouse full of computing equipment, all of which is running NVIDIA microchips. It's all running NVIDIA hardware.

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And so maybe the future of the book evolves into something, at least the nonfiction book, something more like a knowledge database. You know, I don't know if it's never really happened. I think narrative is very important.

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Did you use AI to write this book? I did not. So I actually tried because I was not going to be a Luddite. That's what I said to myself. And what I would do is I would feed it five or six paragraphs of my prose and ask it to produce the seventh. It's just as you say, you know, reads like a Wikipedia article. It didn't sound like me.

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The tonal shift was immediately apparent that I had jumped out of my voice.

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Absolutely. And the other thing it's really good at is taking complex technical subjects and basically, you know, dumbing them down for a lay audience. So the question I asked it constantly was, oh, explain how a microchip clock cycle works. But imagine I'm 12 years old and I don't know anything about this. Give me a very concise and simple explanation. And what it produced was fantastic.

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I mean, I could barely improve on it myself. In fact, I couldn't. I mean, I didn't copy and paste, but I was like, oh, that's how you explain this. That happened several times. And so, you know, I think when it comes to tough technical subjects, when it comes to research, as you say.

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And even when it comes to certain kinds of descriptive writing, it is a world-class tool that definitely can save the writer a lot of time. Whether or not they want to open that Pandora's box.

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Your request is processed there and then sent back to you in the form of an image or a term paper or a meme or a medical diagnosis or whatever you asked for. NVIDIA was there at the beginning of AI. They really kind of made these systems work for the first time. We think of AI as a software revolution, something called neural nets. But AI is also a hardware revolution.

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And these microchips that NVIDIA designed used a process called parallel computing. which meant that they split mathematical problems up into a bunch of bits and then solved them all at once.

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Now, it turned out, and nobody expected this, nobody saw this coming, this software, the neural networks, and this hardware, the parallel computing, worked perfectly together, and they needed each other to succeed. And this is really what made the AI revolution possible.

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Without NVIDIA, we would be about 10 years behind on AI. The first AI system that we really would consider a modern AI system, so kind of like the Wright Brothers airplane of AI, was a system that a guy built in his bedroom, a guy named Alex Kraszewski working at the University of Toronto. And what was that? That was in 2011 and 2012.

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In 2012, he built this system and he used two NVIDIA gaming cards, like the ones you would buy at Best Buy, retail video game cards to make essentially a jerry-rigged low-budget supercomputer to run the training for this neural net. And this broke all the barriers in AI.

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So as a result, all of the early AI pioneers and scientists gravitated to the NVIDIA ecosystem and built all of modern AI around it.

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He's a ferocious entrepreneur. He was born in Taiwan, moved to the United States when he was about 10 years old, and has a degree in electrical engineering. And when he was 30, he founded this company to make video game equipment because that's where they thought the market was. And in fact, NVIDIA did not have a great reputation.

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They were really viewed as a second-tier company for about 20 years.

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Second tier to Intel, second tier to Qualcomm, second tier to all the kind of like big microchip majors that you would have heard of.

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In fact, even NVIDIA wasn't working on it. It came as a surprise to them that AI worked so well in their system. NVIDIA was looking for something like this. They couldn't have told you it was AI specifically, but they were certain that if they made these powerful systems for computer scientists somewhere down the road, they would unlock some incredible functionality.

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Technical skills. His technical skills. He is a world-class computer scientist, world-class engineer. And in fact, he runs his company like an engineer. He's thinking, what are computers capable of doing? What can I make them do that's never been done before? And then downstream of that somewhere, profits will appear. And so this is how NVIDIA works, and this is why they've become so successful.

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I think Jensen is anticipating that these systems will kind of enter robots in the real world. So Jensen is building essentially a giant digital playground called Omniverse, where these robots can learn to move around in this kind of digital simulacrum.

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And once they've learned how to do that, he's going to download those brains and stick them into kind of real-world machines, and they're going to move around. I think he thinks this is in the five- to ten-year time frame, although it's already starting to happen with automobiles and other kind of like more primitive robots.

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So Jensen hates science fiction. And in fact, has never read a science fiction book, he told me. I think what he's seeing today is that within the next five years, well, first, almost all sorts of entertainment will be intermediated by AI. So anything you see on a screen is going to be enhanced or passed through some kind of AI filter on the fly. What does that mean?

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You know, so if I'm talking to you and I'm feeling that my face isn't looking that great today, it's going to be sort of very subtly turn on the Facetune thing to make me look better. You know, my voice will maybe sound a little different. I mean, these systems are already in place, but they're going to get more sophisticated.

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I think for stuff like planning a vacation, you're just going to ask the AI agent to go bring you back some options. You're going to see the one you like and you're going to click yes, and then it's going to do all the work. It's going to book all the flights. Okay.

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For something like a medical diagnosis, I think the doctor will consult with kind of an AI avatar and return with a perfect diagnosis. And then moving forward into the future, Jensen currently is trying to train robots on more difficult tasks, like washing dishes without breaking them. I think probably they're going to have something like that online within the next two or three years.

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And you can imagine demand for something like that will be pretty substantial.

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Oh, yeah. So Fei-Fei Li at Stanford did a survey of thousands of people, and she asked them one question. How much would you benefit if a robot did this for you? At the bottom of the list was opening presents. So nobody... Nobody wants a robot to open their presents for them.

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At the very top of the list was cleaning the toilet and washing the dishes.

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What else is up there? Cleaning up after a wild party. That was the other one. So if you went through a big party, you know, kind of the reason you don't do that is because the place is going to be trashed afterwards.

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I think it's going, they think it's going to be at least a multi-trillion dollar industry. And Jensen wants to be right in the middle of it. He wants to build that thing's brain.

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That's where he thinks AI is going. Dishwashing. I mean, think about it. It's a huge, it's a huge market. I mean, it's going everywhere. But the consumer home use, the thing that people, when you ask them, what do you really want a robot for? They say, God, you know, it's nice not to wash the dishes anymore. Right.

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All of them? I mean, this is the question that I kind of put to Jensen. Like, I can't imagine, David, what we're going to do. I mean, I think maybe like live theater.

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Yeah, we'll play video games or we'll interact with the AI or maybe like in-person events, live theater will suddenly be more exciting. Maybe that's going to happen. You're making me glad that soon I'll be dead. Well, and it's funny because this question has absolutely split the AI community. Jensen is an optimist. He thinks this is the greatest thing since the invention of electricity.

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Complete elimination of almost all forms of labor.

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Hinton is the godfather of the software. He thinks that we are in big trouble. He quit his job at Google to warn humanity full-time about the risks of these systems. Jensen is the godfather of AI hardware. He thinks Hinton is crazy.

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He thinks Hinton is being ridiculous, and it's as pointless to argue against this as it would be to argue against, say, electricity or the Industrial Revolution or agriculture. I'll tell you, Jensen's winning.

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Yeah. So when I brought these points up to him, Jensen started screaming at me.

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You know, I don't think he can help. He started screaming at you? Oh, yeah. He did not like – well, I should say I repeatedly questioned Jensen on this on every interview because I thought it was such an important question. And he was very dismissive of me. But I wanted to kind of push him a little, so I found this old clip of Arthur C. Clarke at the dawn of kind of the 2001 era. A space odyssey.

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1964, talking about how in the future machines may be smarter than men. And I wanted to show this to Jensen, and it just made him so mad. Why?

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In fact, Arthur C. Clarke was optimistic, too. This was the really surprising thing. Well, up to a point. Things don't end well.

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You know, Jensen was like, I have never read an Arthur C. Clarke book. His exact phrase was, I didn't read those effing books. I mean, except he swore. He just was not having it. He's completely candid. No BS. Absolutely speaks his mind. And this is really rare for a tech CEO. Where is politics? None.

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Jensen was the most powerful figure in Silicon Valley not to attend Trump's inauguration. As far as I can tell, he has never made a political donation or taken a political stance in his life to a candidate.

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I think he thinks politics is tribal and irrational. We're talking about an engineer. We're talking about a guy who moves forward from data and who reasons forward from data and is willing to change his mind wherever the data takes him. That's just not how politics works.

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That was due to a new Chinese AI model called DeepSeq, which ran much more efficiently or trained much more efficiently than any model that had come before. And people at first thought that maybe this would mean there would be less demand for NVIDIA's microchips. But Jensen has said that the market got it completely wrong. And in fact, they recouped all of that.

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It went all the way back up within a few weeks afterwards.

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How do I get my inner child out of this relationship? Because I feel like she's running the show.

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I'll say, Gordon, I think her process of becoming an intelligence officer, I see it as kind of a more organic step-by-step process because that's a bit of how the Russians operate. We tend to think of the categories of like, are you an asset or are you not? Or are you an intelligence officer? What type are you?

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I think in the West, particularly in the States with CIA, we have more rigid categories for these types of people. I think the Russians are pretty fluid with it. And the Russians, what they care about is do you produce? They care less about whether are they a formally recruited asset or are they not? At CIA, we cared a lot about that. And the words mattered for what you called somebody.

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But I think with the Russians, it's a little bit more like, can she give us interesting things?

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Well, and she'll be a particular type, won't she? Because when you think of an illegal, I mean, the show that really captures this dynamic is called The Americans. And the premise is it's sort of Reagan era, United States in the 80s, height of the Cold War. And the premise is that there are two Russians who come to the States.

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They're living under assumed identities, typically gleaned from fabricating kind of a passport based off a real person who may have passed away when they were two or three or something like that, taking the identity. I think the Russians call it tombstoning. But living under a false name.

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And Anna isn't going to do that, although she's got that great last name Chapman, which can kind of mask the fact that she's Russian. She's not hiding who she is, right, at any point. So, in some respect, she's a little bit like a CIA officer who'd be under a commercial cover, who is probably operating with their real name, but hiding the fact that they're working for CIA, right?

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But she's sort of not your illegal who's taken... Argentinian documents and come up with a new identity.

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Now, you've written six New York Times bestselling books, 15 books in total. You're a neurologist, medical doctor specializing in the diagnosis and treating diseases of the brain, the spinal cord, and nerves. And I'm curious, what has been, in your opinion, or with the research that you've seen, the biggest cause of this spike in Alzheimer's over the last 20, 30 years? And

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And is there a way to go back if you've hurt the mitochondria so much for so long? Is there a way to reverse it? Absolutely. There is.

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the fact that it just seems like it's just going to keep growing? What is the main causes of this? And is it bigger in America versus the rest of the world? Or is it kind of equal around the world?

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Is it possible to reverse that dementia or Alzheimer's with newer mitochondria to create a more present memory functioning brain? The answer is absolutely. Really? Yes. Even if it's like they've had dementia for a decade or five, ten years or Alzheimer's for a while?

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Interesting. Okay. And so you're saying you're seeing that the GLP-1 drugs are having a huge benefit to mitochondria health, which has a huge benefit to brain health. Yes.

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And it's a game changer. Now with every, I mean, I'm open to all possibilities. And if you're saying it's a game changer, I believe it. If the research is saying it, I believe it. But I also know that with every drug that's treating something, there has to be some side effect also.

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There has to be something that is shifting things in certain ways, chemically, that could also cause harm, potentially. I don't know what that is, but I'm assuming there's something out there. I completely agree with you. Now, if I had Alzheimer's, or someone had Alzheimer's in my family, and I was like, this is going to reverse it,

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It might be worth the side effects to be like, hey, I'm clearer, I'm sharper, I'm able to remember people's names. It may be life changing.

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Did it improve a little bit or did it stay the same? It didn't decline?

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What was the stat you said? Was it 40% of diabetics or diabetics had a 40% chance of dementia? Increased risk of Parkinson's. Increased risk of Parkinson's. Yes. And how many people in America are diabetic or pre-diabetic right now?

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I was at a summit recently where there was a panel on longevity with Dr. Rhonda Patrick, Peter Diamandis, and Dr. Walter Longo. I think you know all three of them, I'm assuming. And Walter Longo was talking about the fasting window research has shifted in the last year.

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I'm not sure if this is a hundred percent accurate what he said from my memory, but he said something like, you know, we used to think it was 16 hour, you know, fasting, an eight hour eating window, feeding windows. But the research is showing more of a 12 hour fasting window, unless you're doing like a 24 hour or two day fast or something, but more of a 12 hour window.

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So I want to go back to the GLP-1 drugs because, again, I haven't heard someone clearly define beyond weight loss the power of these drugs for brain health. And like I'm hearing you say now based on the research, right? So I'm happy to hear that.

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And I'm happy to hear that people who have dementia or family members who have dementia or Alzheimer's now have some type of hope, hopefully, that they can start testing this for themselves to see either a reduce in decline or a potential increase in cognitive function, right?

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But it sounds like if we just target the fire on a daily basis, 10, 20, 30 years beforehand… and do our best to not put ourselves in a situation of pre-diabetic, diabetes, obesity, inflammation, eating processed foods, having a lot of high blood sugar spikes continually throughout the day.

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Yeah, there's no one with a six pack and like shredded on these commercials or just super, you know, healthy looking. Like a little bit overweight or really overweight?

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Even in all the blue zones, you hear about, you know, the blue zone in Japan, it's like it's not becoming a blue zone anymore because there's so many fast food restaurants. The conveniences around those places seem to be excessive. And people naturally lean into convenience over discipline when it comes to food and decision-making unless... I don't know. They're just so disciplined.

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Why is it so hard for human beings to go against the temptation and conveniences to stay healthy?

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Before you go on, if you could, we hear the word metabolism a lot. You say, I've got a slow metabolism or his metabolism is really fast or whatever it might be. If I'm hearing the word metabolism for the first time when I'm nine years old or something or 12 years old, could you explain it to me like I'm 12 and say, this is what a metabolism is? and here's how it works.

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where you might lean into something that you know is bad for you. Even if it's like a little thing here and there, what's the temptation that you lean into? Is there food? Is there something you do that you eat a certain way sometimes or drink something, whatever it might be that you're like, I know this isn't gonna help my future brain health, but I do it anyways.

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But there's a lot of negative effects with alcohol to the brain, right? There are. There's no benefit to brain health.

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And so you have to kind of do everything else to, I guess, benefit the mitochondria and kind of minimize that potential risk, right? Yeah.

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What are the negative side effects to brain health and to the mitochondria or to metabolism when you get five to six hours of sleep versus seven to eight hours of sleep? Is there a big difference to brain health?

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As if I've never understood it before, how do you break it down in simple terms?

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risky is it to have a night job and to be off on the natural, I guess, circadian rhythm of when the sun comes up and goes down? Significant.

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There's something, I don't know if you have the information to be able to comment on this, but there's something I saw about a month ago online. And it was talking about the negative side effects of kind of like Botox and fillers and things like that in men and women.

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Is there any research around excessive use or even just normal use of Botox fillers or other things that cosmetic injections that directly link to either brain health or gut brain connection or mitochondria or metabolism health? Because there was a video I saw that talked about how You know, if you're getting fillers in your face, it's not really draining out.

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It's kind of just migrating in different places around the head. And I'm wondering, is that entering the brain

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So when a toxin that goes in the face somehow goes through the blood barrier into the brain, what is that doing to the brain?

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Do we have the research yet in the last 20 years of kind of what happens to the immune system, to the metabolism, to the brain function with fillers, Botox?

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Interesting. I just worry about any type of drug, toxin, injections that people do excessively, you know, if there's some other way to prevent or optimize, I guess, without injection of toxins. You know what I mean? Well, Louis, let me... Like, I guess there's a difference between like a peptide versus like collagen versus toxins, right? And it's like, okay, where do you...

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Really? Yes. Are there innovative hair dyes that are less threatening, that are more organic or natural in nature?

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Interesting. When you dye your hair, what is happening? I mean, is the hair dead? Is it like a dead cell? Is it still connected to living cells? Well, hair is dead. Hair is not living. So if you dye it, though... Is it entering through the cells from that chemical?

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I've not seen it, but I've experienced it. You've taken this and you've seen like a reversal or just a stop?

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So what is the research around people that dye their hair continuously or a couple times a year? Is there research around how it impacts mitochondria, metabolism, brain health?

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If someone dyes their hair. I guess you don't have the answer to this, but if someone dyes their hair with over-the-counter normal hair dye, I guess, are they hurting the functionality of their hair? quality, strength, and color by doing that? Or is it not hurting that in the research that we have so far?

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I don't know how it's impacting. I'm just curious. Yet it's exceedingly common. Did you used to dye your hair ever? Never have. Never have?

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Not even a little like just for man on the sides or something? Never went with it. You know, I'm okay with it. I'm just fine with it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. There was a clip that we posted the last time we had you on that went crazy on Facebook. And my team told me that it was... That's something I remember to tell you. Go ahead. Okay.

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My team told me that it was our most watched clip on all of our Facebook videos from you. And I wanted to follow up and see if there's more research from what we talked about. And the clip that we talked about that went crazy online was around... the pros and cons of having a vaginal birth for mothers versus a cesarean C-section for mothers.

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And you mentioned something about kind of the pros and cons of the immune health of the child, however they're being birthed. And I don't know if you remember this. Oh, I do. And if you can elaborate on the pros and cons of a C-section versus a vaginal birth.

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And I understand there's certain complications these days for women needing to have a C-section for whatever reason, but is there research on the pros and cons of vaginal versus cesarean section births? And if someone has to do a C-section for whatever complicational reasons, Is there a way that you can still benefit the child so that they get the optimal immune capacity from that birth?

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probably be related to an intermediate benefit be somewhere between vaginal birth and c-section but in a better place than c-section because you hear about i mean you hear about the rise in autism abhd like you mentioned autoimmune diseases skin irritations nut allergies all these different things that I don't know if those were around when you were growing up.

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Yeah, yeah. We dub our content. We have, you know, the whole AI dubbing the whole thing. So we have over a million subscribers in Spanish on our Spanish channel. And somewhere around five or seven million views, I think, a month in our Spanish content. We have Portuguese channel as well. Wow. So our mission is to serve humanity in the biggest way possible with this information.

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And so I go to Mexico. A lot of my fiance is from Mexico. And we go there a lot for her work. And I'll be walking down the street and people come up to me and play the Spanish content. Yes, exactly. And they're like watching the content in Spanish.

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And they're so grateful because they don't have access to you if they can't, you know, understand English with your English content unless your book's translated in Spanish. But the video content is really helpful for them to listen and watch at the same time. Not just subtitles in Spanish, but actually hearing it. And I think more people are starting to get into that and doubling their content.

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It's a big investment, but it's been worth it for us for the impact. Yeah.

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Yeah, I mean, it's investments. So it's like, it took a couple of years for us to kind of break even, I guess, on the ad return on YouTube or whatever. But for me, it's more about changing lives, helping people, service. Understood. And it's worth the investment in my mind to help more people. But that's cool that you got to see your content. It was on TV, huh?

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Maybe they took a clip. Well, we also were on PBS as well, so in America. So why not in Chile? Great. That's awesome. Something that's been a hot topic lately in culture and society around sugar and glucose spikes. How related is the amount of sugar we eat, the amount of glucose spikes we have in a day to dementia or Alzheimer's?

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And is there a way to understand our glucose spikes better or to cut out sugar in a way to support us in this process?

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So how much fructose consumption can we have where it doesn't threat our metabolic health and brain health? Wonderful question.

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So one apple is about five grams of fructose. That's right. And what is that, like a banana is five grams as well or a similar range?

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Is it possible to reverse dementia or Alzheimer's with newer mitochondria? to create a more present memory functioning brain?

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Interesting. So have less concentrated out, but a little bit out and pour more water. And you won't notice a difference. Yeah, exactly. So what about people that just love to have, you know, a fruit diet? They eat tons of fruit, a big bowl of fruit. They believe it's very healthy for them. It's got fiber, it's got nutrients, got vitamin C, and it's a big bowl of fruit.

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Neurologist: The Shocking ROOT CAUSE of Alzheimer’s - How To Prevent & REVERSE Damage To Your Brain | Dr. David Perlmutter

4923.385

So the allulose sugar, which You're on the board of a brand called RX Sugar, is that right? That is correct. That creates this agulose sugar, which is a GLP-1... Agonist. Agonist. What does that mean?

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We all produce this. We all produce this to varying degrees. But some of us produce less of it over time if we're eating too much sugar or processed foods. Is that part of it?

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5001.634

Interesting. So GLP-1 is something that helps us to process food better or to have less? What does it help us do specifically?

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5128.091

So are these drugs helping you essentially not eat more or are they helping you digest the foods you're eating faster?

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Neurologist: The Shocking ROOT CAUSE of Alzheimer’s - How To Prevent & REVERSE Damage To Your Brain | Dr. David Perlmutter

5189.625

Wow. What about people that do, I guess, shrink their stomach? They do a surgery to, I guess, shrink? I don't know what that's called, but what is that called? When they open the stomach, they cut it in half, shrink it or something?

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5256.903

I guess the one thing that you mentioned that was a red flag for me, I guess, is like if the food is not digesting and it's sitting there and it's like, I guess, just kind of blocked up, does that mean you have more constipation or is it just, okay, your stomach is bigger for a period of time because the food's still in there?

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5275.395

Shouldn't the flow want to have like a natural flow as opposed to a blockage like a dam?

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Neurologist: The Shocking ROOT CAUSE of Alzheimer’s - How To Prevent & REVERSE Damage To Your Brain | Dr. David Perlmutter

5321.535

Interesting. So what would be the three to five natural interventions or environmental or food interventions that we can take today to prevent us from getting Alzheimer's or help us optimize the longevity of our health and our brain health for the future without medical interventions?

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So how high do you want your blood sugar to be if you're using a glucose monitor? What's like the parameter for you?

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Do you think having a glucose monitor, at least for a couple of weeks of time, is something that people should consider so that they just have more information about their own health? That's right.

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5658.345

What about like dried meats or like kind of a jerky with no sugar or something that's just salt and meat, dried or smoked, something like that?

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Is there any processed foods that you think could benefit in any way that are out there that are like, okay, these are minimally processed, these are in a package or in a bag where they're not that harmful?

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What would you say then are the things that cause someone to hurt their brain or break their brain the most? Is it emotional? Is it the way they think? Is it what they eat? Is it an environmental thing? What are the things that hurt a brain the most?

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5763.367

Now you mentioned briefly that your father passed away with Alzheimer's. Was that one of the main reasons you wanted to get into the medical field and study this?

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Neurologist: The Shocking ROOT CAUSE of Alzheimer’s - How To Prevent & REVERSE Damage To Your Brain | Dr. David Perlmutter

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Welcome back everyone at School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest. We have the inspiring Dr. David Perlmutter in the house. So good to see you, David. Thanks for being here again. Thanks for having me. Very excited about this because there's a massive health crisis in the world, specifically in America. It just seems to be growing and there's a stat

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But you started to see the symptoms for the last seven years, is it?

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You know, it's either one. What were the biggest lessons you learned in that seven years with your father? Compassion.

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6429.392

It sounds like a glucose monitor can be the first step to understanding your own personal data of how your foods, your environments, your workouts, your supplements are impacting you in a positive or negative way so that you have better data to make better decisions.

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6541.786

We used to have a much fitter country and world though, didn't we? Yeah, we did. Fitter. Like we used to move more and not eat as much processed foods.

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But also, I say that with the caveat that the lifespan 100 years ago was a lot shorter than it is now. Isn't that correct? Even though we have more diseases and obesity and struggles Now we still have a longer lifespan than a hundred years ago when we were eating less and less processed foods, I guess.

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6703.176

When you hear that the lifespan is 77 or whatever in men, how does that affect you mentally or emotionally as you get closer to 70? It's not something I like talking about, but how do you approach life with that information? Not saying that, oh, my life is over in a certain amount of years, but how do you think about it then?

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Neurologist: The Shocking ROOT CAUSE of Alzheimer’s - How To Prevent & REVERSE Damage To Your Brain | Dr. David Perlmutter

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And I'm assuming that you have a lot of friends and colleagues and people in your life that you've lost as well as they've gotten older and you've seen people die. How does that impact you at this season?

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6756.711

Yeah, you look very healthy. If you'd have said 70, I didn't think you were 70.

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I hear paddle sports are some of the best ways to improve your brain function and extend your lifespan too.

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This is powerful, David. I appreciate you coming here. So much information in this. I want to send people to your site, drperlmutter.com. You're all over social media, David Perlmutter or David PerlmutterMD in certain places. We'll have all this linked up as well. You've got 15 books. You've got more on the way. How can we be of service to you today? What can we do to support you?

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I like it. I asked you this question last time, three truths. I'm curious if you have different truths this time. If you could only leave three lessons behind to the world at the end of your life. You get to continue to create what you want, achieve, live the life you want. But for whatever reason, you got to take all of your content with you or it's erased from our existence.

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But you get to leave behind three lessons, three things you know to be true. What would you leave behind? What three truths?

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I'm grateful for you, David. I appreciate your consistent research and wisdom in bringing this information to people. And I appreciate you letting me ask you questions that are like, can you explain this like I'm nine so that I can understand this? Because I think we hear these big words in terminology and I don't fully understand them.

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And I'm interviewing experts like you all the time, but I still wanna simplify these things. So I appreciate you simplifying the complex for me and our audience.

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I appreciate you being committed to finding solutions, whether it be through organic interventions or medical interventions and being open to all possibilities on how you can help people with Alzheimer's or other things to support their brain health and their body health. And I'm just grateful that you're still on a mission to improving your health.

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And I hope that we see you around for a long time because I know your wisdom, we need more of it. So I'm grateful for your research. Well, thank you for that. Your commitment, your dedication to serving humanity at the highest level.

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And I'm grateful for that. I appreciate it. Yeah, we'll do it again. We'll do it again. I'm excited. When your next book's out, we'll have you back on. Final question for you, David. What is your current definition of greatness?

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I don't know. I'll look and see what it said. David, thanks so much for being here. Appreciate it. Thank you, Lewis. My pleasure. Amazing. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links.

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I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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724.801

I mean, all these companies, though, when you, I mean, whenever I watch sports and there's a commercial, I don't really watch much TV, but I do watch sports. Half the commercials are medical drug related commercials. And they talk about, you know, fixing one thing, but then causing, I don't know, 30 different side effects that seem pretty extreme. Some of these side effects. That's right.

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we're gonna solve one thing, your, I don't know what it is, your eczema or something. Yeah, yeah, it's like arthritis, eczema, but then it's like, but you might die. You know, it's like the- But they don't say it like that. But it's like dancing people and songs and sunshine.

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But how do these... these medical companies get away with it if their whole mission is to do no harm. I understand that the intention is we're going to try to solve one problem, the eczema, the heart palpitations, whatever it might be, I don't know, all these different things.

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But if you're solving or helping, and it really doesn't fix one thing, it seems like it helps one thing, but if it hurts you in a lot of other things, isn't that doing harm?

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According to the Alzheimer Association, the number of Americans living with Alzheimer's is growing, and growing fast. Nearly 7 million Americans have Alzheimer's, and by 2050, the number of people age 65 and older with Alzheimer's may grow to a projected 12.7 million, barring the development of medical breakthroughs to prevent or cure Alzheimer's disease.

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You mentioned processed foods, fructose, things that cause inflammation in the body. You know, obesity is one of the main, I guess, is something that's happening. I don't know what it is, 30 or 40% of America is kind of obese now, or is that what the calculation is?

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917.443

And so a lot of these weight loss drugs are taking off because they have been effective in losing the weight, it seems like, for some people. And I haven't studied this enough to know the side effects or the harms of those. But you see cases of people losing a lot of weight quickly, it seems like.

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What is more harmful, and maybe we don't have the research yet, but what is more harmful, being obese to our brain health or using a drug like an Ozempic to lose the inflammation on our body and the excess weight? But is there side effects that are causing more harm to the brain long term than the obesity?

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Yeah. Like losing the weight, but staying on the drug or having obesity and not being on the drug. What is more harmful to the brain health?

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I think it's the woman on the right.

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434 - Trump’s Speech & Casey Anthony’s Tik Tok

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Yes. Dein Recht oder mein Recht? Oh, das ist... Weiß. Weiß. Oh, sie ist heiß. Wer ist die Boombaddy? Ich denke, äh, Fostercare?

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419 - Post-Thanksgiving Extravaganza

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What does that mean? It's holding space for what? So it's for the song Defying Gravity. So people are holding space with it. That's the context of the sentence.

The Tim Dillon Show

419 - Post-Thanksgiving Extravaganza

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I think it's up for interpretation.

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419 - Post-Thanksgiving Extravaganza

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Some sort of anime character.

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419 - Post-Thanksgiving Extravaganza

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This is the green giant.

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419 - Post-Thanksgiving Extravaganza

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Yeah, it's a lot of brands.

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419 - Post-Thanksgiving Extravaganza

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Das ist die Marschband aus Sioux Falls, Süddeutschland.

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419 - Post-Thanksgiving Extravaganza

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419 - Post-Thanksgiving Extravaganza

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This link is coming in weird.

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419 - Post-Thanksgiving Extravaganza

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That's probably why.

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419 - Post-Thanksgiving Extravaganza

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Es ist wahrscheinlich alles veröffentlicht.

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419 - Post-Thanksgiving Extravaganza

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Tostitoscoops.

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418 - Matt Gaetz & The Non-Binary Capitalist

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Okay, so let's go back.

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418 - Matt Gaetz & The Non-Binary Capitalist

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I'm going to check in on the Gates cameo, too.

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418 - Matt Gaetz & The Non-Binary Capitalist

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Oh, he's active. He's active right now. Well, where's ours? This one's advice.

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418 - Matt Gaetz & The Non-Binary Capitalist

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I'll bring it back. Oh, that's going to have a theme, though. That's another song. Here we go. This one's fine. Here we go.

The Tim Dillon Show

418 - Matt Gaetz & The Non-Binary Capitalist

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All right. Now we go to the advice. Here we go. Matt Gage's advice.

The Tim Dillon Show

418 - Matt Gaetz & The Non-Binary Capitalist

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418 - Matt Gaetz & The Non-Binary Capitalist

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Trafficking and having parties with women.

The Tim Dillon Show

418 - Matt Gaetz & The Non-Binary Capitalist

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One of them was 17, apparently.

The Tim Dillon Show

418 - Matt Gaetz & The Non-Binary Capitalist

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How old were you when you figured out your gender identity?

The Tim Dillon Show

418 - Matt Gaetz & The Non-Binary Capitalist

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Ariana Grande, and then it's Cynthia, the witch.

The Tim Dillon Show

418 - Matt Gaetz & The Non-Binary Capitalist

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It's got good ratings. Okay, playing it now. Here we go.

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418 - Matt Gaetz & The Non-Binary Capitalist

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This week people are taking the lyrics of Defying Gravity and really holding space with that and feeling power in that. I didn't know that that was happening. I've seen it, yeah. That's really powerful. That's why I want it. I didn't know that was happening. I've seen it on a couple posts. I don't know how widespread, but, you know, I am in queer media, so that's my, you know. That's pretty cool.

The Tim Dillon Show

418 - Matt Gaetz & The Non-Binary Capitalist

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Yeah, but yeah, it's happening. I've seen... Okay, well, that's lovely.

The Tim Dillon Show

418 - Matt Gaetz & The Non-Binary Capitalist

349.395

I think we should see one of them.

The Tim Dillon Show

418 - Matt Gaetz & The Non-Binary Capitalist

3535.761

Breaking news. Matt Gaetz canceled.

The Tim Dillon Show

418 - Matt Gaetz & The Non-Binary Capitalist

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Yeah. I can't believe that. I mean, I can, but.

The Tim Dillon Show

418 - Matt Gaetz & The Non-Binary Capitalist

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He didn't need the extra 300.

The Tim Dillon Show

418 - Matt Gaetz & The Non-Binary Capitalist

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No last name and no fake beers. We've been fine.

The Tim Dillon Show

418 - Matt Gaetz & The Non-Binary Capitalist

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It was pretty heavy handed.

The Tim Dillon Show

418 - Matt Gaetz & The Non-Binary Capitalist

506.722

And I mean, this is... So this Hey Toby one is a pep talk one, but this holiday one just dropped while we were taping this one.

The Tim Dillon Show

418 - Matt Gaetz & The Non-Binary Capitalist

587.534

We can see if he's online, yeah.

The Tim Dillon Show

418 - Matt Gaetz & The Non-Binary Capitalist

593.715

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What would you want the cameo to say? Hi, Tim Dillon.

The Tim Dillon Show

418 - Matt Gaetz & The Non-Binary Capitalist

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Yeah, maybe we can give him a tip. Do you want it public on his profile if he does it?

The Tim Dillon Show

418 - Matt Gaetz & The Non-Binary Capitalist

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Oh, hold on. It's 262 if we want it within 24 hours.

The Tim Dillon Show

418 - Matt Gaetz & The Non-Binary Capitalist

85.589

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I believe I saw that.

The Tim Dillon Show

444 - Qatar, Kanye, & The Gift Of Luxury

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In other cities throughout the peninsula, places like Dubai and Abu Dhabi, Doha, Muscat, The transformations have been unbelievably remarkable.

The Tim Dillon Show

444 - Qatar, Kanye, & The Gift Of Luxury

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Before our eyes, a new generation of leaders is transcending the ancient conflicts of tired divisions of the past and forging a future where the Middle East is defined by commerce, not chaos, where it exports technology, not terrorism, and where people of different nations, religions, and creeds are building cities together Not bombing each other out of existence. We don't want that. Pools.

The Tim Dillon Show

444 - Qatar, Kanye, & The Gift Of Luxury

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No bombs, more pools. And it's crucial for the wider world to know this great transformation has not come from Western intervention, or flying people in beautiful planes giving you lectures on how to live and how to govern your own affairs. No, the gleaming marvels of Riyadh and Abu Dhabi were not created by the so-called nation builders, neocons, or liberal non-profits like

The Tim Dillon Show

444 - Qatar, Kanye, & The Gift Of Luxury

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those who spent trillions and trillions of dollars failing to develop Kabul, Baghdad, so many other cities. Instead, the birth of a modern Middle East has been brought by the people of the region themselves, the people that are right here, the people that have lived here all their lives, developing your own sovereign countries, pursuing your own unique visions.

The Tim Dillon Show

444 - Qatar, Kanye, & The Gift Of Luxury

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It's a genocide that's taking place that you people don't want to write about, but it's a terrible thing that's taking place, and, uh... Farmers are being killed. He's not wrong to be white. There's a few genocides, by the way, black makes no difference to me.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

My sisters-in-law on 2nd trimester, mom rage & switching husbands

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Wie lange ist eine Kontraktion?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

My sisters-in-law on 2nd trimester, mom rage & switching husbands

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Wir haben keine Ahnung.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

My sisters-in-law on 2nd trimester, mom rage & switching husbands

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Six seconds.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

My sisters-in-law on 2nd trimester, mom rage & switching husbands

118.447

Oh my gosh, I'm nervous.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

My sisters-in-law on 2nd trimester, mom rage & switching husbands

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No, that was not fun. She's so nice.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

My sisters-in-law on 2nd trimester, mom rage & switching husbands

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We're just girlies. We just want to chat.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

My sisters-in-law on 2nd trimester, mom rage & switching husbands

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Oh, I always ask.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

My sisters-in-law on 2nd trimester, mom rage & switching husbands

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Und so lustig.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

My sisters-in-law on 2nd trimester, mom rage & switching husbands

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Yeah, unfortunately.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

My sisters-in-law on 2nd trimester, mom rage & switching husbands

2754.48

You have to say Caleb, right? Okay, so Addy. I know you're not her boss.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

My sisters-in-law on 2nd trimester, mom rage & switching husbands

2762.242

I'm gonna go with Caleb. I don't spend as much time with Caleb. He's gonna be honored. He has so much to offer, ladies. We would just be talking work. It's what it's like.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

My sisters-in-law on 2nd trimester, mom rage & switching husbands

2786.365

We'll go skateboarding. I don't get on a skateboard. You guys will have a great time. We'll record a YouTube video. I just know that Addie and Matt would not be in the video. I don't know why we say it so often. We're like, we could never be married.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

My sisters-in-law on 2nd trimester, mom rage & switching husbands

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Yeah. That sounds like a hobby.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

My sisters-in-law on 2nd trimester, mom rage & switching husbands

2960.418

Wait, that's super cool.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

My sisters-in-law on 2nd trimester, mom rage & switching husbands

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You know about it.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

My sisters-in-law on 2nd trimester, mom rage & switching husbands

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Are you gonna go?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

My sisters-in-law on 2nd trimester, mom rage & switching husbands

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Oh, thanks. Thanks. The glow.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

My sisters-in-law on 2nd trimester, mom rage & switching husbands

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You have to say Caleb, right? I have to say Caleb, because I'm not related to him.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

My sisters-in-law on 2nd trimester, mom rage & switching husbands

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That is so toxic.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

My sisters-in-law on 2nd trimester, mom rage & switching husbands

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I don't understand. That's so sad. That woman wants grandbabies so bad.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

My sisters-in-law on 2nd trimester, mom rage & switching husbands

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Okay. Haben wir die letzte Frage beantwortet? Ich weiß es nicht.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

My sisters-in-law on 2nd trimester, mom rage & switching husbands

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Ich habe meinen Bein geschmissen. Wirklich?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

My sisters-in-law on 2nd trimester, mom rage & switching husbands

952.892

Aber ich bin so, du kommst nur zu diesem Punkt. Ich konnte es nicht sehen. Ich habe es wirklich nicht gesehen.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Pregnant at 17, adoption & overcoming addiction w/ Danielle Sylvester & Thyri

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Das ist meine beste Freundin.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask

1085.38

Yeah, it's your round tushy.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask

1438.795

No, I'm sure I felt insecure before. It was just the way that you were describing it, I couldn't relate to.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask

2013.4

Oh, thank you.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask

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Now is that consideration? I don't know.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask

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I don't even feel it.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask

2186.383

Once they're in, no.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask

2190.326

Oh my gosh, no.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask

2194.101

Thank goodness.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask

528.305

I don't want to be a man.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Asking my wife UNCOMFORTABLE questions guys are too afraid to ask

531.227

It's so gross.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

115.829

Ihr hattet drei Kinder gleichzeitig und dann dachtet ihr, dass eure Kinder an einem Punkt sterben werden. Das war nicht nur ein Punkt, das waren mehrere Punkte auf der Reise, an denen ihr dachtet, dass ihr ein Kind verlieren werdet. Das ist verrückt. Ihr seid verrückt. Ihr seid verrückt. Ihr seid verrückt.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Ja, ich war so, ich brauche dich. Ich habe die andere Nacht angefangen zu weinen. Ich werde wieder weinen. Weil ich dachte, wie viel ich meine Kinder liebe. Oh, I'm doing what my dad does. And just thinking about your mom telling you everything's going to be okay. Because our son recently was not doing, just having a really bad cough. And I was so worried about him.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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I drove at midnight to go get a humidifier to make sure he was okay. I was just worried sick about him. And he was just coughing. I'm worried sick about my kid coughing. It's not even a big deal. And I had this realization of like... Meine Eltern fühlen sich in der gleichen Weise wie ich für meine Kinder. Sie fühlen sich in der gleichen Weise wie ich für mich.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Und es hat mich einfach so lieb gemacht. Oh, ja. Und es ist wie zu hören, dass deine Mutter da saß und sagte, dass alles okay sein wird. Und sie hat dir einfach die Rüste gerubbt. Das ist das süßeste, schönste, schönste Ding je.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Das erste Wochenende war so verrückt. Ist das nicht das schlechteste Hinweis, dass man nicht stressiert wird? Das macht mich stressiert. Okay, jetzt bin ich stressiert. Du hast mir gesagt, dass ich nicht stressiert werde.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Drei Monate im NICU, ist das typisch für Triplets?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Das ist ziemlich schön, einen medizinischen Hintergrund zu haben und zu verstehen, oh, wenn meine Kinder dieses Problem haben, sollte ich das tun. Aber was für uns schön ist, Mitch, ist ChatGPT. Oh ja.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Ich kann entweder ChatGPT oder Hayley fragen und beide haben die Antwort. I've been driving Abby crazy. She's like, stop talking.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Hayley, did you develop an energy during addiction at one point in your life?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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So schön. Ich liebe es. Es hat mir mit meinem Sohn gestern Nacht geholfen, weil ich bis um 3 Uhr morgens traurig war über ihn, weil er viel schluchzte in seinem Schlaf. Und ich dachte, er klingelte, als würde er Symptome von Krupp entwickeln. Ich hatte Krupp, als ich sieben Jahre alt war, das ist später, als die meisten Kinder es bekommen.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Aber ich wurde in den Krankenhaus gerutscht, weil ich nicht atmen konnte. Ich klingelte wie ein Walrus, wie jedes einzelne Atem. Es war wirklich furchtbar. Also wollte ich einfach nicht in dieser Situation mit meinem Sohn sein. Und AI hat mich durchgebracht, was zu tun. Ich war so, okay, es hilft wahrscheinlich, wenn ich einen Kühlschrank habe. Also habe ich einen Kühlschrank gekauft.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Dann ist es hilfreich, wenn es kälter in der Wohnung ist. Also habe ich es 68 Grad gemacht, damit er besser schlafen kann. Also ja, Alter, ich fühle dich, Bro. AI ist großartig. Es ist das Zukunft.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Warte, ihr habt das selbst gemacht? Ja. Sie hat das gemacht. Ist das typisch für die meisten Triple Eltern? Du musst wissen, wie man eine Nahrungstübe in die Nase stellt?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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You're a mom of three triplets.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Okay, also, ja, meine Hand, Kopf hier, Füße hier. Also, die Hände wären hier.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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I mean, triplets means three. So I didn't. Yeah.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Und deine Pinkel, das ist das kleinste Pinkel, das ich je gesehen habe. Warte, welches Pinkel ist kleiner? Abis oder deines? Ihr habt die gleiche Größe wie ich.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Okay. Sensitive subject.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

1754.999

Atmen, though. So, your children had to learn how to breathe after they were born. They didn't learn... How long did it take them to learn how to breathe when they were born at 28 weeks?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Was ist das medizinische Geld für drei Monate in einem Krankenhaus? Kann ich euch ein Beispiel geben? Okay, also drei Kinder in einem Krankenhaus. Für drei Monate. Für drei Monate. Mit viel intensiver Arbeit.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Ich möchte sagen, als ich als Kind einen Tumor hatte, ich möchte sagen, dass mein Geld vor der Entschuldigung ein Million war. Also ich werde drei Millionen Dollar für die drei Kinder. Total. Shut up! Shut up!

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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This is just the toll. Thank God for insurance, dude. Well, some people don't have insurance. Some people are too poor to afford insurance and then they're the people that get really screwed, even though they never had money in the first place.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Das gibt mir eigentlich Hoffnung über die Menschheit, dass jemand das gemacht hat. Wir haben es nicht bezahlt, aber was war das Ziel? Warte, kann ich wieder antworten?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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You were really close.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

2006.043

Okay, I'm gonna say 5 million dollars.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

201.169

With some random person. Yeah, they're okay. You've never met before. You probably just use an app. Use some random person that can watch my kids.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Oh, dude, same. I'll be like, bro, one billion dollars? Alright, where do I sign? Oh, this is going to save my kids' lives? I will be a slave to you for the rest of my life. You saved my kid, we're good. Abby and I were talking about it the other day. I was like, I'll chop my arm off for my kid.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Now I'm like, why am I doing this?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Someone threaten my kid? No, we talk about this all the time.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Ich hoffe, eines Tages zeigst du ihnen ein paar Videos von der NICU. Und du sagst, wir lieben dich so viel. Ich hoffe, dass du ihnen das zeigst. Und sie erkennen, wie viel Zeit du an ihnen verbracht hast. Du erkennst es nicht, wenn du ein Kind bist. Du hast keine Ahnung. Auch... Es ist lustig, ich würde sagen, dass ich gute Eltern hatte.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Das ist das erste Mal, dass wir aufgewacht sind und wir nicht einfach zu einem Kind gehen mussten.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Selbst wenn du schlechte Eltern hast, muss auch ein schlechter Vater etwas tun, um dir zu helfen. Vielleicht haben sie dir Essen gegeben, vielleicht haben sie dich verletzt, aber vielleicht haben sie dich gefüttert. Das zählt für etwas. Ihr seid die allerliebsten. Ich würde sagen, Haley ist die allerliebste Mutter. Unsere Kinder wurden 28 Wochen alt.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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We've cried like five times.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Ich denke, das wunderschöne an diesem Thema ist, dass es so viele Menschen helfen wird. Es gibt so viel Perspektive, egal ob sie etwas gemacht haben, wie ihr es gemacht habt oder in der Zukunft. Es ist gut, Perspektive zu haben, weil für mich als neuer Vater, wenn es wirklich schwer ist, I didn't know what the frick I was doing and I believed this lie.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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I thought things were going to be hard forever. I don't know if you guys ever thought when you were in the NICU, I don't know if it ever felt like that was where you were going to be for the rest of your life. Like it ever felt like this will never end and it probably was really, really, really hard.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Ich weiß nicht, für mich ist die Neubau-Szene einfach nur, sie lebendig zu halten. Aber wenn sie mit dir sprechen, ist es unglaublich. Ich meine, es ist unglaublich. Es ist nichts Gutes. Es ist nichts Gutes.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Seid ihr jetzt glücklich? Seid ihr traurig? Ist es wie ein Mischung von beidem, von den Kindern?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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It's just chaos.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Ich denke, dein Sohn wird so emotional intelligent sein, weil ich mit zwei Brüdern geboren bin und meine Mutter ist Ingenieurin. Und sie, sie ist im Grunde, wie mein Vater, der sensitiv ist. Meine Mutter ist die eine, die sich um das Haus umschlägt. Okay, also, ich habe nicht so viel von Frauen verstanden, weil meine Mutter nicht so typisch ist. Sie war einfach nie emotional.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Und so, ja, ich weiß nicht. Ich denke, dein Sohn wird sich umsetzen, um ein wirklich guter Mann zu sein.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Okay. Isn't it crazy how your kids copy everything you do? Oh, it's awesome. Because I play with Abby's hair. Cause that, like, that's something that she loves. That's her love language.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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am Abend schlafen zu lassen. Ich meine, vielleicht ist das nur für mich. Für mich, wenn ich nicht eine volle Nachtspause bekomme, ist es einfach, ich weiß nicht, vielleicht einfach nicht so präsent. Ich mag es nicht, wenn ich immer wütend bin. Ich mag es nicht, das auf andere Leute zu nehmen. Ich behalte es einfach drinnen. Aber ich werde einfach wirklich ruhig.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Aber selbst wirklich ruhig zu sein, ist nicht die beste Version von mir, weil dann bin ich nicht präsent. Ich spreche nicht. Ich kommuniziere nicht. Wie bist du, wie bleibt ihr, dass ihr gute Eltern seid, wenn ihr müde seid?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Abby hat mich ermutigt, um zu arbeiten. Sie hat mich nicht gesagt, ich habe sie nur fünfmal pro Woche in den Gym gesehen. Und ich bin so, oh, ich sollte wahrscheinlich mehr als einmal pro Woche gehen. Und es gibt etwas zu sagen, auch wenn du entspannt bist, du gehst arbeiten. Solange du dich nicht im Gym verletzt hast, weil ich so hart war, dass ich den Rest des Tages tot wäre.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Aber du drückst dich auf eine mittlere Stufe. Du bekommst all diese Dopamin-Verluste in deinem Kopf.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Did you guys have like an in-law or parent move in to help?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

302.936

Mitch, ist es selbstverständlich schön, dass du deine Weis 100%ige Aufmerksamkeit hast? Ja, das ist ein bisschen schön. Ja.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Aber Hayley, es gab einen Punkt, als du im Krankenhaus warst, als du gerade drei Menschen gebürstet hast. Und ich habe gesehen, dass du auf Social Media gesagt hast, dass du sie verfehlt hast, um irgendeinen Grund. Es muss sein gewesen, dass du so viel gemacht hast, dass du sie verfehlt hast.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Ich glaube, du hattest einen FaceTime-Anruf, um sie zu sehen, weil du nicht mehr aus dem Bett kommen konntest. Du warst im Bett. Ja.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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How did you go from immediately after giving birth feeling those feelings to then going to being this super mom that's waking up before her kids wake up and working out? Und ja, dich kümmern, weil es scheint so zu sein, dass du einen Weg gefunden hast, um dich selbst zu kümmern, um die beste Mutter für deine Kinder zu sein.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Und Mitch, wann hast du wieder dein bestes Selbstgefühl angefühlt? Welche Art von Wechsel war es für dich? Wann hast du dein Selbstgefühl angefühlt? Was war das? War es das Gym für dich oder war es etwas anderes?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

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Es ist wie eine Maske auf einem Flugzeug zu tragen, wenn es einen Druck auf die Kabine gibt, damit du deinen Kindern helfen kannst. Weil wenn du deine Kinder zuerst helfen kannst, aber dann weggehst, weil du nicht atmet, können deine Kinder dich nicht zurückbringen. Und schau dir das an, deine Kinder brauchen dich.

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Also ich denke, wenn ich über Selbsthilfe denke, denke ich über, wenn der Flugzeuganwalt auf einem Flugzeug sagt, hey, erinnere dich. Nehmt eure Maske zuerst und dann, sobald ihr geholfen habt, könnt ihr anderen helfen. Ich finde, das ist eine perfekte Analyse zur Leben. Man kann andere nicht helfen, ohne sich selbst zu helfen. Ich stimme dazu. Man kann, aber es gibt eine Grenze dazu.

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Du wachst aus und bist fertig. Und dann kannst du nicht mehr helfen. Und dann bist du nicht mehr in der Lage, zu servieren.

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Wow. Ist Haileys Lieblingssprache Worte der Affirmation?

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Oder wenn du Frühstück für die ganze Familie gemacht hast und ihr Kaffee gekauft hast, bedeutet das viel für sie. Sie liebt es. Wir sind in der gleichen Weise.

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Es ist eine Überlebensstörung. Du versuchst einfach nur, deine Kinder zu retten. Das ist es.

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Ja, wahrscheinlich.

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Warte, ich bin falsch. Deiner ist physischer Touch. Ja, sicher. Ich glaube, jeder sagt physischer Touch, aber ich glaube, es gibt eine Unterschiede zwischen Intimität und physischer Touch. Abby hat physischer Touch, sie liebt es, wenn ich mit ihrem Haar spiele. Sie will nicht spät werden, sie will nur mit ihrem Haar spielen.

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Okay, das macht Sinn, weil jeder Mann sagt, ich liebe physische Touches. Es ist so, nein, du tust es nicht. Du hast eigentlich Worte von Affirmation, du Idiot. Das ist mein. Ich mag es, Komplimente zu geben, weil ich Komplimente erzielen mag. Ich habe dich komplett missdiagnostiziert. I was like, this is my fellow words of affirmation guy. I wonder if it is.

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Oh, it's really helpful to understand communication styles, especially communication styles, because I've realized after five years of marriage, Abby and I communicate extremely differently. And she could like look at me in a way that I communicate as, oh, she hates me right now. She doesn't like me. And then I get defensive and I say something weird.

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And then we end up having an argument when it's like, she was literally looking at me that way just because of this thing. Like it had nothing to do with me. So, Ich denke Kommunikation, wie du mit deiner Schwester kommunizierst, ist so hilfreich, weil ich denke, Kommunikation ist der Grund für 99% des Konflikts, ehrlich gesagt. Das ist sicher. Vor allem, ja. Vor allem, wenn wir verheiratet waren.

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Wir haben definitiv viel gelernt. Und ihr habt gesagt, dass ihr schnell verheiratet seid. Gehen wir also zu Dating für zwei Jahre und dann nach einem Jahr verheiratet? Weil das ist, was wir gemacht haben. Und wir haben 20 und 21 verheiratet. Das ist ziemlich schnell. Und die Leute sind so, wow, ihr seid verrückt.

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Das fühlt sich nicht so schnell an.

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Wenn die Leute hören, dass ihr verrückt seid, ihr habt so jung verheiratet, oh mein Gott, das ist so verrückt. 20 und 21, zwei Jahre Dating, ein Jahr Engagement. Also für euch, was war das?

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Legally married.

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How many days did it take you from the day you met to say, I want to marry you?

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Maybe a month. 30 days. Probably 30 days. Bro, they should have made a TV show about you guys.

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Just the biggest coincidence. Was she like respectfully trying to say no?

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Did you think he was cute?

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Nein, denn wir haben uns, Abby und ich, als Kinder kennengelernt. Und ich habe nie von ihr gedacht, als etwas mehr als Freund. Aber dann haben wir Theater kennengelernt und haben dieses Sommertheater kennengelernt. Also haben wir einen Sommer kennengelernt. Wir waren nur Freunde. Und dann, vier Jahre später... No, it was three years later. We had both grown up. We'd both gone through puberty.

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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We'd both had like changed a ton. And I'm like, damn, this girl is pretty. And then I asked her out. So like that for me, it's funny how guys are, we're all, we're so dumb. We're like, oh, that girl's pretty. She's amazing. Like some people can be pretty, but like actually not a good person. I'm glad that we both, it worked out for us. Yeah, it did.

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Okay, also wenn du diesen Podcast gerade liest und du ein Typ bist, Das ist wahrscheinlich seltsam, weil es alle Frauen sind. Aber wenn du ein Mann bist und du versuchst, eine Frau rauszuholen, mach sicher, dass sie ein Bridesmaid ist bei der Geburt. Mach sicher, dass ihre Freunde dabei sind, damit sie das Okay bekommt.

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Und dann, wenn du den Garten bekommst, weil deine Freunde dabei sind, dann könnt ihr verheiratet werden. Weil das ist, was ihr sagt.

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Es ist lustig, dass du Tinder erwähnt hast, weil wir Alex und John auf diesem Podcast interviewt haben. Und sie haben sich literally durch Tinder verheiratet, und sie haben sich verheiratet.

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Wenn du ein Filmmacher bist, was auch immer das Jobtitel ist, solltest du einen Film aus diesen Geschichten machen. Zwei völlig andere Geschichten. Ja, es war lustig.

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Also sechs Monate ist das totale Niveau, von dem wir uns getroffen haben. Und als du getroffen wurdest, war es erstaunlich oder war es schwer, weil ihr nicht wisst, wie ihr zusammenleben könnt?

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There's kind of like a scientific method to it too. Because like if you sweat a lot at the gym and your shirt's all wet, you don't want to infect the rest of the laundry with your sweaty shirt. You got to put it on top of the basket with the basket clothes. So it's not even in there, but it's like, it's airing out.

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Bingo. I would give you a high five.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Du bist so viel besser bei einem Mann als ich.

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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I don't know if you guys have ever bought something online and then you go to pay, but then there's not only taxes, but then there's a shipping fee. Or maybe you've gone to buy tickets for a concert and then the price doubles for the tickets when you get to pay for the fees. It's really annoying. Well, Chime thinks that's annoying too. And with Chime, they don't have overdraft fees up to $200.

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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That's Chime.com. Chime feels like progress.

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Okay, ich bin ein Nerd, also muss ich diese Frage stellen. Ich habe es geschrieben, weil du es auf einem Podcast gesagt hast. Ich hatte keine Ahnung, was es heißt. Clomid. Also Clomid ist die Medikation, die du benutzt hast, um krank zu werden, wenn du durch PCOS gingst, richtig? Ja. Clomid. Hat das Auswirkungen auf die Trifle zu haben? Ist das, warum du Trifle hattest?

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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What is the percentage of people that have triplets on Clomad?

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That's probably what they say and out here everyone on Clomad is getting triplets.

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Like, hey, I got triplets. You got triplets? Hey, okay.

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Das ist verrückt. Als ihr herausgefunden habt, dass ihr verheiratet seid, sorry, ich gehe immer zurück zu diesem Moment. Aber habt ihr, wart ihr in eurer Elterns-Basement-Basement-Basement-Basement? War das, als ihr herausgefunden habt?

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They sound like amazing people.

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Because if I like, I don't know, someone who says stay with me, While you have your triplets? That sounds like a very selfless person to me.

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Leute, ich liebe das. Ich liebe, wie die Leute dich umdrehen, wenn du durch das durchgehst. Weil das mich einfach über die Menschheit überrascht. Okay, wie der andere Tag, wir haben, das ist das größte Thema, wir haben in der Schnee gestanden, der andere Tag.

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Oh mein Gott, nicht mal.

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Wir waren zu spät für den Flughafen. Die Fahrzeuge sind in der Schnee gestanden.

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Ich klicke auf die Nachbarn-Türen. Wir sind in weißen Fischen. At the Whitefish Ski Resort.

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Okay, we'll tell it on our podcast. This will be the one minute elevator pitch story. But basically, long story short, all these neighbors just came up and just started helping us push. No, I have another example of that. Helping check on our kids, cause our kids were like, Abby was pretty panicked, so then I think our kids got a little scared.

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And then the neighbors were like, just comforting our kids. And like, everyone was just being so nice. And I'm like, and this lady just had a cigarette in her hand. And she's like this sweet grandma. These are grandparents from Florida that flew in to just enjoy their vacation. And they're out here helping us push our car out of the snow.

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Okay, also der Fakt, dass die Leute dich verliebt haben, wenn du es am meisten brauchst, wie diese Familie, diese Großeltern aus Florida es für uns gemacht haben. Ich liebe Leute, Alter.

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Like, what is that called again? Oh, uh, uh, wait.

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Gib uns, was du fühlst, was wir verdienen. Und sag einfach GoDeb. GoDeb. Deb is the best. Thank you, Deb.

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That's why you brought the sun. Because I'm trying to figure this out.

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Like, what if that person... Well, you said this because the technician... No, no, no, no, no.

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Sorry. I'm sure you're great.

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No, I think...

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I feel seen right now. What's funny is like everyone, you get like hate comments, people on social media, I don't know why this is, but I don't know if this ever happened to you guys, but people on social media will sometimes say not very nice stuff.

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I don't know why. I don't care about that.

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I don't actually know why that happens, but anyway, people would be like, whoa, this girl got a boob job. And they were natural. They were literally natural. And people would roast you. They're like, she got a boob job. She probably sucks. She's probably insecure. Die Leute sagen es so verrückt.

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Ich muss mich entschuldigen. Ich bin sehr pro.

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Ich habe gehört, dass es für Botox ist, aber ich weiß nicht, was Plastik-Schleimhaut ist.

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Alle sehen so schön aus und sie sind alle... Ich brauche eine Erklärung, warum alle so wunderschön in Utah sind. Vielleicht sollten wir in Utah gehen. Vielleicht war es ein Fehler, in Arizona zu gehen.

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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I put coffee creamer in my soda now and it's delicious.

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It actually is really good.

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You don't like coffee creamer in your soda? What the frick's wrong with you?

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Das ist so süß.

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Das ist, weil die Leute in Utah keinen Kaffee trinken. Ist das nicht der Grund, warum der Soda-Shop so groß geworden ist?

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Ich liebe Kaffee und ich mag es immer noch.

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Sie machen mich zu LDS konvertieren, aber dann fühle ich mich, als ob ich am nächsten Tag für Kaffee trinken würde.

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Ich würde es wahrscheinlich nicht tun. Ihr seid so nett. Ihr seid so nett.

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Ihr seid so nett.

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Das ist so süß. Ihr habt gesagt, dass ihr mehrere Male in eurer Reise von Triple Eltern gewesen seid, dass ihr glaubt, dass es eine Chance gibt, eines eurer Kinder oder mehrere eurer Kinder nicht zu machen. Als ihr herausgefunden habt, dass ihr Eltern von Triple Eltern sein werdet, habt ihr überhaupt keine Ahnung, wie schwer es sein wird?

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Willst du ihnen sagen, was dieser Typ zu dir in Costco gesagt hat?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

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Sorry, I did not, like, did that piss you off when he said that? Did that make you really mad? No, because we, we just started laughing.

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TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Yeah, no, no. Are you snipped? Was für ein Weg, jemanden zu treffen. Wie geht's? Sind das Triplets? Bist du ein Sniff? Nein, ich bin nicht verrückt. Das ist der gleiche Sequenz. Wie viele Sekunden haben wir gesprochen?

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You're one of those guys too. Oh yeah.

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Do you guys not buy those? We actually do not buy the $5 Costco chickens.

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We feel like we're hurting the chickens.

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Oh yeah, Abby, I care about animal rights. Abby doesn't give a frick about animal rights. Matt, shut up.

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And now that you said that, I always think about hot dogs when I eat the Costco chicken.

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He's like... Bro, I want to see the... Okay, jetzt bin ich nervös, den Kuchen wieder zu probieren. Wir haben einen gekauft. Nicht erschrecken. Nicht erschrecken von dem Kuchen. Bro, du weißt nur, dass diese Kuchen mit Hormonen gepumpt sind. Ich weiß, ich weiß.

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Du willst nicht auf das Label lesen.

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Ich will nicht drauf schauen. Ich will nicht darüber nachdenken. Schau nicht auf die Food-Videos, wo sie zeigen, wie sich alle Kuchen zusammenfüllen. Das ist so traurig. Irgendwie sollten wir wahrscheinlich mehr Vegetable essen.

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Kannst du mir deinen Link schicken? Es ist wahrscheinlich auf deiner Seite. Ich habe es gesehen auf deinem TikTok. Ich möchte es für unsere Kinder bekommen. Wir lieben es. Sie würden es lieben. Sind Sie in der Strecke gestanden? Oh, ja. Und Ältere können in die Strecke gehen? Oh, ja.

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Es ist so fett. Ich habe eine schmutzige Schulterböse. Meine Tochter schnallte ihren Fuß in die Hälfte, als sie in einem Haus in Branson, Missouri, in die Strecke ging. Ich komme aus Missouri und wir nehmen immer Reisen dort mit all meinen Cousins.

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Weil meine Tochter war so...

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I'm sending it everybody. We're like, yeah, go for the slide.

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It's kind of cool when you're like vacation home has a slide in it. And she like her, her foot, her foot was like over here. It was like in the bone was like sticking out. It was pretty gnarly. So that was a fun. Anyway, that was a great family. You'll be fine.

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There was a time where Griffin face-planted into it, like one of those, you know those McDonald's poles they have at the drive-thru? It's like a big yellow pole, so you don't hit the McDonald's sign.

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It was not at McDonald's, but it was just like one of those poles. Oh, es war einer von diesen, die neben einem Parkplatz sind, sodass die Autos nicht ins Spielground fahren können. Er ist direkt am Laufen und tritt und wächst seinen Kopf auf den Pool. Danke Gott, er hatte seinen Helm an. Ich habe es einfach nie ausgenommen.

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Wenn du ein Vater bist, bist du beschäftigt und sagst, lass uns den Helm anlegen. Wir werden hier 20 Minuten sein und dann gehen wir wieder auf den Motorrad. Aber, Alter, dieser Helm hat meinen Sohn gerettet. Oh mein Gott. Sie hatten ihn also seit über einem Jahr. Ja.

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Ich habe das noch nie gehört.

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Wow. Also es schlägt euren Kopf. Und ist das wirklich nur eine ästhetische Sache? Ist es egal, ob dein Kopf ein Toaster-Head ist? Sie wissen es nicht. Wir haben sie gefragt.

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Ja, ich denke, dass die meisten Leute wie alle anderen aussehen wollen. Ja, aber die meisten Leute wollen nicht, dass du weißt, wenn du ein Toaster-Head oder ein normaler Head hättest, welchen würdest du wählen? Ja, die meisten Leute würden wahrscheinlich nicht sagen, weißt du was, sign mich auf für Toaster-Head.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Ja. Ja, es ist definitiv wert.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Ich vergesse nicht, ob es mir oder einem meiner Brüder war, aber ich glaube, mein Vater, als einer von uns jünger war, hat sich über eine Fähigkeit, ich weiß nicht, ob es meine Ohren oder so war, aber er hat es einfach nicht, wie als Vater, du willst deinen Kindern mit jedem anderen fit werden, weil du sie nicht lustig machen oder in der Schule verabschiedet werden willst.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Das ist... Wie viel war das? Wenn das nicht gespeichert wurde... Also der 7-Millionen-Dollar-Hospital-Bill hat nicht den Toaster-Head gespeichert? Nein.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Ich habe keine Ahnung.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Oh. Ja. Also sie waren so, okay, du hast drei Kinder mit Helmeten. Entschuldigung. Entschuldigung. Du hast drei Kinder, die einen Helm brauchen, also wir schneiden dich. Es wird nicht 1 Million Dollar sein, es wird nur eine halbe Million sein.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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At least like your bench though, like maybe, I don't know if you do like gender neutral stuff at all, but like with the gender neutral clothes, you could probably just have a bank of that because any kid could wear it. Like a kid, you know, has boogers all over his shirt and you're like, oh, we need to take that shirt off. Like you just grab from the bench, the gender neutral bench.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Es gibt einen neuen Stil für 2-Jährige und 1-Jährige jetzt.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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A hundred hours.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Und ich dachte mir, wie kriegst du das überhaupt an?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Es gibt einen neuen Stil für 2-Jährige, der nennt sich Pajama Casual. Das ist, wenn dein Kind ihre Pajama-Panzen durchbläst und du sie in Kackis nimmst. Und dann ist es wie ihr Business Casual, aber auch in Kackis.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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We're not talking about sitting down.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Das letzte, was ich mit euch sprechen wollte, ist, dass ihr irgendwo erwähnt habt, ich vergesse nicht, wo es war, aber ihr erwähnt habt, dass ihr ein Wunder mit euren Kindern beobachtet habt. Und ich fühle mich...

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Ich weiß nicht, ich persönlich, ich bin so, wow, du hörst nicht wirklich über Geheimnisse, die jeden Tag passieren, also ich will nur wissen, was die Geschichte ist und ich will wissen, was passiert ist.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Did they let you sit? Did they let you, like, go around on, like, a chair? Like, here we go. Am Ende gibt es keine andere Wahl.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Die Ärzte haben keine Ahnung, was passiert ist. Ich weiß nicht, ob das auf einem Podcast oder einem TikTok-Video ist, aber sagst du nicht, dass dein Vater über deine Kinder gebeten hat?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Can I give you guys a hug? I want to give you a hug.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Hayley und Mitch, danke, dass ihr uns nicht geplant habt.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Okay. Glaubt ihr, dass ihr Baby Nummer 4 haben werdet?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Ja! Haley und Mitch, willkommen zum Unplanned Podcast. Danke. Fartet ihr jemals im Hot Tub? Ist das jemals etwas, was ihr macht? Wir haben über das Farten im Hot Tub gesprochen und ich dachte, dass das ein tolles Set ist.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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I'm not snipped.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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If you guys like this episode, go follow Hayley and Mitch right now. They both are on Instagram. They're both on TikTok.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Thanks for leaving your children to come talk to us. This was fun. Bye.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Ich habe das gleiche Gefühl wie du, als ich herausgefunden habe, dass wir verheiratet waren. Das gleiche Gefühl.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Du bist der Grund, warum sie dir keine Fotos und Videos in den Besuchern lassen. Weil ich wollte ein Video nehmen, um es für uns zu erinnern. Und der Techniker würde es uns nicht lassen, weil die Leute sich überraschen. Sie sehen eine dritte Beine, eine vierte Beine. Und sie werden sagen, mein Kind ist wie... auf allen Vierern gehen. Die Leute kommen einfach mit diesen verrückten Ideen.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Aber es ist lustig, dass du tatsächlich akkurat warst. Du warst tatsächlich richtig.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Du konntest besser als der Arzt.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Abby hätte gesagt, hör auf, Matt.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Sie hat gesagt, stopp es.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Du bist nett, aber du siehst aus wie eine sehr nette Person. Sie hat gesagt, bitte stopp es. Was hast du gesagt? Sie hat mir ein bisschen gespürt. Ist das dein Kommunikationssignal? Stopp. Stopp.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

TikTok's Triplet Mom: $7M NICU bill & Premature birth at 28 weeks

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Ich habe ZocDoc in der Vergangenheit genutzt. Es hat mir so, so geholfen. Und ich liebe es, dass du nicht die Gefahr deines eigenen Hauses verlieren musst.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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I like that. We're expecting Abby's pregnant.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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I'm not pregnant. Really? Wow.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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But the last time we talked to you guys, you guys weren't certain if you were going to have another baby. We weren't sure.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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I think one of the stories I feel like so many of us moms can relate to when reading that book is the story about the Cheerios underneath the kitchen table. Yes. Because I thought it was hilarious. So I'll actually let you tell the story about the Cheerios and then I have a couple thoughts too because I know that would be my kid.

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Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Our kids would be like, free snack.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Totally, right?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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For sure. Actually made me think about how I, we had just moved in October and like we had barely been, we had boxes everywhere, you know, moving. You guys have just done it too. It's like a disaster. And, um, I have a bunch of mom friends that also have like one and two year olds, like really little kids. And they were like looking for a place that we could take all the kids. I was like,

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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let's just go to our house. Like, cause, cause that's just me. And then I was like, I was quickly regretting that when they started coming in. I'm like, there's boxes everywhere. There's so much stuff. And then they're like looking at some of the boxes. They're like, is this your new coffee table? Like, are you like,

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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and I was like yeah I'm sorry like we'll just go to the playroom like trying to shuffle them away from that yeah not that was clean either but I was like don't look at all this disaster and they're like let's put this let's put this together like why don't we put this up right now the kids will just go in the playroom all the moms like we we shuttled them up to the playroom they put together my coffee table that's and got rid of the boxes and everything I was like that is like genuine friendship because it's not like they even are like okay with the mess like they like enter into it and like want to like

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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participate and like help. I don't know.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Then we're going to have to have another one.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Something I've been talking about too with like my sister-in-laws and like some of my friends is like as like someone close to someone, whether it's a family member or a friend, I feel honored when they like invite me into like a messy situation too. Even if it's just like their house or like they're not put together or they're like –

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Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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I feel like they're having a boy, so it was going to be different anyway.

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Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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I wouldn't normally ask anyone to do this, but like, could you please just like hold my baby for a couple hours? Like I just need to go. Like I'm not, I'd never feel burdened by that. I always feel so honored that like, wow, like we're close enough that you could like ask something like that of me. And so I feel like that is a fear too.

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Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Like with people pleasing potentially is like, oh, just like, I don't want to make anyone else like inconvenienced. I don't want them to think that like I'm needy or like annoying in any way. And so it's like, I feel like the opposite is actually true. I'm like, no, I'm like so pleased that you like,

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Felt like I was a safe person to reach out to in this way or like wanted to give me this responsibility.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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I'm predicting it.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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You guys already know.

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Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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So by the time this is out, everyone's going to be publicly humiliated.

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Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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I just feel like they're going to have a little version of Jeremy. I feel like they are. We'll see. We'll see.

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Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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It's so sweet, too, because I think it might be easy for people that grew up in much smaller families to think, how could you ever have personal relationships with that many children? And the way that your mom was like... you're clearly felt safe to approach her with about that.

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Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Like something that a lot of people would be too afraid or like, especially if it's someone that you don't know, like you clearly had a really close relationship to her mom to like go to her with that. But then also like her response and like, that's really sweet to hear. Yeah.

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Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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See, I had to wear maternity clothes. My belly was so huge.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Whoa, whoa, whoa.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Wait, how did she forget? What do you mean?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Yeah, I would take a bath when I was pregnant. I would dip his finger and he's like, Abby!

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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I'm just thinking logistically.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Do you just send birthday texts?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Oh, and you had a birthday yesterday?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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I don't even take a bath.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Wait, and then I have something I really want to talk about because it was in your book and I was like, let's go. That's crazy.

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Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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It was probably like cool moment, but there are cameras present. But then you had to do it several more times, maybe like 10 more times.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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So did you have to run this by the film crew before you even asked her to be your girlfriend?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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So you knew... Or you didn't know? Did I know?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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I'm actually shocked. I never really... It makes sense, but I never thought about it from the back end like that.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Did that get frustrating for you?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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You'd be great at that.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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You guys have a background too. You're like, I know what kind of questions they ask.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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It is. That's freaky.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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After reading that, I was like, I gotta find this picture. It was funny.

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Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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I think people have since reposted it. And one of them was like, one article was like, Ginger, wear short shorts to the grocery store. Oh my God. I was like, what? Those are all the headlines. Why? I guess because of the culture you were raised in.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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I was like, Matt, she's wearing Nike dress and shorts like everybody else. More clothes than a lot of people.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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I dedicated my book to my mom.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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But that does also make me think about in your book when you're talking about swimming with skirts on, which I'm like, yeah, no wonder you couldn't swim. I don't think many people can swim.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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There are still things I can relate to.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Cause like, I wrote Matt next to so many parts in here. And I was like, read this actually a part that I was like, I knew that you would think it was really cool. Cause I'm always trying to push Matt to be more social was the super agers you were talking about. That is a fun fact.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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also on that same that page it says like it's one of the top things researchers find when they're looking at the similarity similarities of super agers like you're talking about how it's not their diet it's not their histories their finances or medical care it's their connection other people on that same page i put a note in all caps says brahms because where we went to college we went on so many dates to brahms i love that wait it's the best do you guys have brahms in arkansas

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Well, and also that's when you were talking about the cinnamon twist, which that was a story I had to tell Matt too. That's so funny.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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They probably had to buy a lot of packs of cinnamon twists.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Did you or any of your siblings ever... push back on the dress codes just from feeling awkward? Or was that something that you didn't really feel like empowered to do or appropriate?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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If you would meet her though, you'd be like, of course you did that. And of course it was everything that you wanted.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Cause it was like the leggings.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Those articles are crazy.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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that's so there's so many layers to that decision but I applaud you for stepping out and like you can tell that it wasn't just like a reactive thing like so much thought and years of like mentorship and seeking counsel went into like you coming to like okay now this is something I want to share about because I know that there's other people out there like me in the same situation

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Very similar to your first book. Something that like stood out to me a lot about your book, too, is that you said growing up you never saw your parents disagree or really very much disagreement at all in the house. And I want to ask you both how you feel about like, you know, disagreements or you may have in your marriage and when it comes like as it pertains to your children.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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He'll even say a little one. Like if it's no to the first.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Those are the things that he can reach in our pantry because they're like the ingredients. So then all of a sudden they're his favorite thing in the world because he can reach.

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Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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I think that's really powerful. Like as the parent to say that, I don't even know how I would have responded as a kid if that was like a common culture in our household.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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But I imagine it would feel like really, really safe. And I think the fear as a parent is that like apologizing could make you look weak. But I feel like the opposite would happen. Yeah.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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And they just want to see them succeed.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Wait, speaking of hotels. wait should we jump into that that was funny so i i read your newest book coming out january 14th and i've been like filling matt in on like all the fun stories and like tidbits about it also there's so many parts of the book where i just wrote matt for him to read because i was matt could gain a lot from this book as well yep but um

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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I never had heard him sound like that before. I was like, yeah.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Something that you also talked about too, like, like true people pleasing. And like, sometimes you're telling someone something that they might not initially want to hear, or it's tough to hear like a correction or, you know, like I noticed this unhealthy behavior pattern in your life, um, is about having like truly good community.

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Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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And you kind of like spoke up a little bit against like the culture around like, you know, What were the quotes you put in there? Like, you know, cut them out of your life. You're doing great girl.

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Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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You were talking about how you had planned like a second honeymoon in California and it was going to be like a little bit of work, a little bit of fun. And you had this gorgeous Airbnb. Talk about it a little bit.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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You said that in the book. You said desperate doesn't look good on anybody or something like that.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Yeah, and Matt has said that I'm not a people pleaser, but there's definitely a lot of things that I could relate to, too. Especially when you said, like, the two reasons why, or the things we might get by people pleasing. You said one is to feel like we have a place, we belong. And then the second one was to avoid being excluded, misunderstood, and criticized.

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Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Which that one, I was like, I can actually relate to that a lot. Like, I feel like a lot of times, like, for me, the worst thought is, like, at times have been, like, oh, man, like... I feel frustrated that I feel misunderstood in this way. And I think also like through social media that has been like brought out more. I'm like, oh my gosh, I feel so misunderstood in this area.

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Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Or like sometimes it hurts to not feel included. And that's been things I'm like, okay, I feel that a lot. And so I just think all that to say, I think there's a wide audience that can gain from this book. And then... This is the quote I read to Matt that we both were like, oh, that is so well said.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Because I was like, man, I don't feel like I've always been trying to win people's approval, but you literally touched on it right here when you said, my point is, I don't think you and I have been people pleasing just to be the most popular kid on the block. We learned somewhere along the way during hard and unpredictable and scary things, the one thing we can try to do was make everybody happy.

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Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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Because if we can make everybody happy, maybe just maybe we could keep bad things from happening. And I feel like that just like,

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

6311.754

so eloquently put something I had never been able to put to words in my mind and there are so many moments like that in this book but I feel like that's something that like so many people can relate to where it's like okay I'm not really trying to be like the coolest best person in the world I'm not putting on for everybody but there is like that fear element to it it's like maybe this will prevent things from going wrong and just kind of like the freedom like you said from like letting that go and

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Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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And just being so much more receptive to others' needs through that. I thought that was really well said. Oh, well, thank you.

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Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

6450.06

Yes. Nemo, let's go. No. You've never seen Nemo? This isn't going to go up. Okay, so Felicity's seen Nemo.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

6458.788

That seems wrong. That seems like a bad compliment.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

6462.392

Okay, let's go. Wait, let's keep going.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

6473.462

Toto, I have a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore. Wait, say that again. Toto, I have a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

6489.817

I'm going to sing the song. Some way.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

6555.029

I love that he knows. I don't know.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

6584.694

avoids like the plague yes and star wars she hates the fictional ones okay this is what i feel like you might know okay you're killing me smalls yes i know that from but where is it from okay well i know that you play ball like a girl that's another one that's a quote from the same movie i say that a lot but then i'm like where did i know that from

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

6660.763

What a wonderful phrase. It's like one of the jungle movies or something.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

6743.093

What are you doing?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

6744.393

Max, that is not a chew toy. Never heard of that.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

6813.323

Yeah, you're healthier for it.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

6862.031

The Sandlot, you have to.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

749.285

Why do I feel like we would have just been like...

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

83.215

Because that would be weird, right? I like saying, I like it when other people say you guys are pregnant. Yes. Because I'm like, thank you. I do need a little help with this. It's weird if I say it.

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Jinger Duggar: Family Secrets, People Pleasing & Fleeing Stalkers

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That makes a lot more sense. I like that.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE

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Yeah.

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Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, we did.

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Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Answering your HOTTEST questions for our 100th EPISODE

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Yeah.

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Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult

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Caitlyn. That's so sweet.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult

2980.519

That's really sweet.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult

2982.06

Who texted you?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult

2984.002

That's so sweet.

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Sleeping in separate beds, loneliness & making friends as an adult

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I could totally picture you doing that.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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And then it was like, I would take three months. I'm like, how are you actually, man? No, totally. I feel like people don't talk about that. And I didn't have the contrast of like a sunshine and rainbows pregnancy. I think physically both pregnancies, I felt pretty good. And I was really grateful for that. But mentally, no.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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We've talked about it a lot, actually.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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I love how you referred to pregnancy as being on an island because that must be so hard to be going through the most difficult thing most women probably up to that point have gone through. Growing a child is a very, very big deal. Going through that alone, no one really understands truly what you're going through, unless they're pregnant at the same time and the same stage.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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So that must feel really isolating. And then, Tom, to your point, being the caregiver for someone that's going through that isolating event must also be isolating because you're like, I'm taking care of this person that I love very, very much that's doing this incredible thing for our family, growing this child. But then it must have been hard for you when...

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

1148.044

Yeah, like you said, when you felt like you didn't know what to do when you were stressed and you were trying your hardest but things weren't going the way you had planned.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

1157.626

yeah and i think it's cool that like you're willing to open up about like some of the struggles too even though you're clearly love your family so much you're so grateful for it but i think that because people going through it can feel like oh man everyone's doing pregnancy and they seem to be like thriving and like loving their life and i'm actually kind of having a hard time right now feeling the opposite or yeah yeah and it's really cool that you're like willing to be vulnerable that way to like share like you know like we love it and we wouldn't have any other way but it was like not always easy it was rough it was

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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Yeah. And also like your journey to pregnancy, you opened up about having PCOS. Obviously that's a big part of your guys' story. Was there ever a concern that like fertility might be something that was difficult for the two of you?

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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We were active enough where I'm like, okay, I'm hiring this child. How active are we talking here? It got to the point where I'm now getting nervous because we had been married three or four years and at that point I kind of wanted a child maybe by that time.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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Yeah, no, 100%.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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Oh, totally. Dude, we were out the other side.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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I wish someone had told me, hey, by the way, just get your kid a seat on the plane or fly southwest where you can just bring on the car seat or bring the Duna on and no one's going to say anything. Because we started using our Duna to help with flights. Oh my gosh, our one-year-old falls asleep on the plane now.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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And Tom loves cooking.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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Like a time he's like, he knows more about periods than most women.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

147.426

He never would fall asleep. He would try to crawl everywhere.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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This is before you started.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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I feel asleep for 40 minutes max, but that's way better than what we were getting before.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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That is incredible.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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Wait, that's amazing actually to hear because I feel like sometimes I'm like, well, I mean, like if a doctor were to tell me to do birth control, I'd be like, okay, well, if that's what I do, like I wouldn't ever think twice. So that's really cool that you guys were like, no, like you had the, I don't know.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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The motivation to do all of that research on your own, to be like, there's a different way we could go about this.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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I'm going to say something that every person watching this right now is thinking, Tom, you're an amazing husband.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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That's sweet.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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You're doing such a good job. No, but you can accept, like, yeah, I don't know. You're just clearly doing such a good job. And you spouting out those facts about women's health and women's bodies that you just knew so well. It's like you've talked about it a million times.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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You know your wife and you know women so well and it's really cool to see you step up to the plate and be that leader for your families. That's really cool.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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Of course, you have to be a girl dad.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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I love that. What was your satisfaction in the corporate world versus your satisfaction now with your life? Like out of 10, if you could rank it.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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That's awesome. And you started sharing some of your recipes, but without Rachel knowing. Talk about that. Because you got recommended the page. And that's how you found that?

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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This page was made for me. Instagram has gotten so good.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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Is this my house? Why is someone in my house posting videos on Instagram?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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And you're like, who is she? I was like, who is this shit? And I click on it.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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real humans now obviously it's still you know there's like a screen between you but that's why I love something like this like a podcast yeah we're actually having a real conversation yeah like we're not we're not like filtering this like they would on a tv show like Rachel Ray not to not to knock Rachel Ray because what she's done is incredible but not

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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I know. She had us back on twice.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

2023.967

You know that we never do.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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Dang. A rule for our show is we only do in-person interviews. Because I feel like with a Zoom call or something, it's just not the same.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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That's still pretty dope though.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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That's cool. Is she back and doing live shows?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

2046.956

Are you using her cooking pants? I know she has like some pretty good cooking pants. When we were registering like on our registry, when we got married, I remember there was like a Rachel Ray set. I was like, I like Abby told me, she was like, this is good. She is like famous and she makes pants. And I'm like, all right, we could, I don't think we even registered for those. Did we?

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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We got the cheapest ones.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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Yeah. Yeah. but yeah so that's uh that's how that account started that's so cool and then it turned into a book at what point did you find out you were pregnant with Sutton

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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When I was trying to figure out fun questions to ask you guys, I was like, I need to do like a deep dive on their Instagram to see if there's like a, a funny, like old memory that I could bring up or get like the story behind it. Cause I think when you find like a, an old photo of a couple that like has a funny story to it, it's always like, it's always hilarious.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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And there was a photo that stuck out to me that I, it made me, I just died laughing. I

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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What is the story behind this picture?

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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That was our... So every week, you know, it was... This was...

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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And then it slows down for a really long time. Yeah, that's true.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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So we are sprinting.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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Wait, why do I feel like that's such a good couple's bonding activity? It's like, you know what, babe? Let's go do a photo shoot just us with a timer.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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That's a really fun date idea.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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It was so much fun. And take nude photos with some fruit. Might as well, you know?

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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That's so fun.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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And that was week 40.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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I never saw week 40.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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Both at 39. Okay. Yeah.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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I was induced and then I had a scheduled C-section. So they do those both at 39. But I'm like, week 40 seems intense.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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You're literally like labored birth sounds better than staying like this.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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Yeah, that's so true. Yeah, I literally – I remember people saying, like, you won't be worried. Like, trust me, like, by the time – like, sure, there's, like, you know, like, nerves, but it's a normal – like, it's not like a – like –

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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as intense as if you were like just to be spurred on you you're like something happens we're like this sounds like a better option yeah this sounds like we should just go and do this right now so like obviously i totally understand you guys wanting to like send it with that photo just because you're like i want to celebrate this i want to enjoy this pregnancy like you just never know like you just don't know what could happen and so you just want to enjoy every bit of the pregnancy and um just like live your life what like what did you guys have any funny comments from like family or your parents that were like taxed

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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Like, you got an OnlyFans? Like, what's going on?

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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That's hilarious. You guys are fun. Did they gang up on you or were they just teasing?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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They're like, well, we care what we say. Yeah.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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It was art. It seems like you guys have like really good community though. Like where have you guys tapped into that community and found those friends? Because if, I don't know, just to have like, even people check in on you, right? Like and be like, ah, that's a funny photo. Like it seems like you have good relationships and that's like a sign of a healthy person, like a healthy life.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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Like how did you guys find that community?

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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Wow. That's so cool.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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And are you guys big lake people? Do you water ski, jet ski? Do you guys have a boat? If you have a boat, that's pretty sick.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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Did you sell it? Did you crash it?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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So they owned something together before we owned something together. I'm like, okay, cool, guys. Leave me out of this one.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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Love sports. Okay, actually, I hate watching sports. I think it's boring. I like playing sports.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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But I push for it. Have you gotten into sports now because Tom's into sports?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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Well, when you teach me how to golf, and he, wait, what'd you say?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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He's like, you're a workout.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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Well, you probably felt silly to say anything because it's like, okay, my wife just freaking pushed a baby out of her vagina and here I am complaining.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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She can hold on. There's nothing you'll do to get her to let go.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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I will stay on that tube.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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We did a push-up competition. Guess how many push-ups Abby did in this competition. Just guess. I did 108. She beat me. Guess how many she did. I did 108.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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She did more. Like pyramid.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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yeah so we were taking like i was breaking out she was doing push-ups and vice versa so 120 i think it was either 117 or god guys she is so humble she doesn't remember she's ready for the next competition no she is humble though because she'll be like i don't know if i can do like a pull-up right i'm like babe you can do like when she does a pull-up she'll be like like it's like i'm like dude you can do 50 i'm like you are so i don't do shit that's too easy

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This past week, we had the opportunity to sit down with Rachel and Tom Sullivan, who at one point thought they weren't going to be able to have kids. After missing multiple periods in a row, Rachel was diagnosed with PCOS. But what her and Tom discovered is they were able to help heal her body through nutrition.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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What were we talking about? He taught me to snowboard together. We snowboard together.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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Oh, that's fun. Heels and toes.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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Yeah, we played pickleball just like a couple weeks ago together.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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Yeah, you're getting better. You're getting better. You're doing great.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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Are there things that like dinner or nights out or... We have... Like our general rule is one date night a week. But sometimes, you know, life. But we just recently did like a...

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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birthday trip to Vegas it was like it was probably a total like 36 hours or something but it was like so funny 36 hours with two is like a week and a half it felt so long and you're not away from the kids very long so you don't like you don't because if you're gone from your kids for more than two days you you go crazy you're like I need to be with my babies right but just a really short trip dude you know what the best part was of this whole trip

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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Exactly, exactly.

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Rachael & Tom on Rejecting Birth Control, PCOS & Losing my Parents

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he chose oh sorry oh no you're good the best part was the drive there five hours and we just got to talk just me and her no phones no no audiobook no podcast we're big road trip fans it was amazing that's why he chose to do a road trip he's like the flight is really short but we could just road trip so we could actually just drive which was the whole point of the trip was like to connect yeah and so that was really fun and then second best part the freaking spa dude like we we never would have liked that before kids like we would have wanted to

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be active do something like jump from that little thing at the top of the in vegas what's the thing that you can bungee jump from there's a space needle so you can we would have wanted to do those things now like this spot sounds wonderful yeah but you guys good about date nights yeah we do on every every thursday that's amazing i love that

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I feel like that's one of those important things you can do to take care of your marriage. If you want to be good parents, good leaders for your kids, you've got to be unified as one. I think Abraham Lincoln, one of his speeches back in the 1800s, he said a house divided amongst itself won't stand or will fall. There's a lot of truth to that. You need to be unified.

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Like you're never going to find it. That's just like dagger to the heart right there. That's so good.

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That's interesting. I feel like we don't really separate the kids very much. They're kind of usually always like, we probably should do one-on-one time with each of them.

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Yeah, I think especially as they get older too, like now that Griffin can talk, he can speak, like they're very short sentences. They're like three word sentences, but still he's able to communicate with us. And I think, yeah, having one-on-one time.

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It's so sweet. This morning he said he always, he does look out for Augie. And like he said to us, like he tells, Augie can go down the stairs by himself. He knows to turn around and like scoot down. But Griffin said, he's like, come on, Augie. Cause he wasn't coming down the stairs. Cause I was like, we're going to have breakfast. And he's like, Mon, Augie. Mon, Augie.

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And I'm like, he'll come down eventually. And then when Augie finally made his way to the stairs, Griffey goes, turn around. Turn around.

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Well, something that I think is absolutely beautiful about your story is you guys didn't just give your kids names because they sounded cool. That's honestly what we did. We were just like, oh, Griffin sounds sick. It does sound sick. It's a really good name.

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Their middle names were meaningful.

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Their middle names were meaningful, but it's like, you know what? Griffin sounds freaking dope. Let's name our kid Griffin. Augie? Okay, August is his full name. We're like, that sounds so cool. But like with you guys, you were very intentional with like the story behind your daughter's names. Could you guys like elaborate on that a little bit for anybody that might not know?

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Tom feels very strongly about wineries. My mom's side of the family, entire side of the family grew up in Southern Illinois.

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He's friends with the coach of Q&D in Quincy.

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Which I know... That's a big family in Quincy.

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Okay. For people that are confused, Abby grew up in a really tiny town in Illinois called Quincy, Illinois. It's like five hours from Chicago and it's right across the river from Hannibal, Missouri.

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And in Hannibal, everybody knows Hannibal because of Huckleberry Finn, Tom Sawyer, you know, all that. Anyway, sorry.

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That's so sweet. I love that story.

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I'm so, so sorry for what you guys have been through. There's just nothing to really say there. I just think it's so cool that you obviously are remembering your mom with your daughter's name. It's crazy that you guys said that because we actually did a similar thing with our son, Griffin. Um, we, his, his middle name is, uh, Abby's grandpa's middle name and we lost him three years ago.

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Um, and so him carrying that on too is like really special to our family.

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Well, our kid can't climb out because we put the tent on top of it.

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Yeah. Oh, yeah.

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Man, you're going to make me cry, Tom. I'm like feeling it now. Let's go in a new direction now. Dang it, man.

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Yeah, I transitioned to the big girl bed.

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He's very well-spoken.

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I don't have mascara on, but it's going to start dripping somehow. I don't know.

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But that's a really cool point that you bring up, that even though they're not here to love on your kids, that in a way their love is what's charging you, so they get to feel their love.

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How are you so wise? Like, did you just have like a, did you have like a really incredible father or grandpa? Like, how are you so, I feel like you have a lot of wisdom and maturity.

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We got to the tent. The tents are amazing.

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The tents are amazing because he doesn't try to climb out.

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No, it makes sleep amazing. Like, even because we all travel and go see family. We have family all over.

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We get made fun of for the tents, though.

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Rachel, why do you think Tom has so much wisdom?

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Oh, people think it's so weird, but it's the best thing ever.

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I've seen them. I've never done them. No, they're so good. But then he doesn't think to climb out because he's in a tent. And...

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I really, I think your relationship's beautiful and I admire just the love that you guys have for one another. And I admire, yeah, I admire your wisdom, Tom. And I think I admire that because I feel like I just recently realized that I've been operating as a husband and father, but without the wisdom that I should have.

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They feel safe and feel like they're at home.

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It's the same environment everywhere they go.

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Everywhere they go. They're in the same exact environment. So that makes them feel so safe, so comfortable. And we don't have like issues with them like sleeping. We're going to have an issue when we transition though.

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When that incident happened, when that drunk driver hit the three-year-old family member... Ashley. Ashley. Or Ashley was your family member?

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I'm so sorry. When that happened... You said these mentors came around you and surrounded you with love. That was people at your high school, older students that heard about what happened.

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Yeah. Well, when you're at that level of point, it's like nothing matters anymore. Probably.

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And what did they do that helped you?

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And being there, was it just at school? Was it outside of school, too, checking up on you?

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and did you feel like with having these mentors surround you and be there for you were you did you like then feel the need like since you were supported to be there for members of your family or at the time as a child were you just like you know like how did you navigate I was always the

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I mean, I hate topics like this because they're so sad and so dark. But I guess the hope I have in talking about this is that someone could hear this right now that is going through something like that or might be about to go through something like that. What should they know?

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Yeah. And just straight up ask them.

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The question that I'm afraid to ask because I cannot imagine what it would be like is, kind of like what you saw from the perspectives of the family members that ended up taking their life because of what happened. And I guess the thing that freaks me out the most is what if that were to happen to someone that I know or one of my close relatives, right?

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Or what if I were ever to experience the horror story of what your family went through but in my own home? And so I guess my question is if something like that happens, what do you do to maintain your sanity? As a parent, if you're a parent that loses a child, what do you do so that you don't end up taking your own life?

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Yeah. That's how I found out about the tins in the first place was actually social media. I was like, Matt, we need a nice tins. Okay. You're like, TikTok shop. Bye. Yeah. We were so confident and great. And then we tried to put it down for a nap one time without it on Sunday. No sleep was had. So I was like, well, this is where we're going to pay for it.

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Since then, her and her husband Tom have gone on to have two beautiful babies, but while their family's been growing, Tom lost both his parents. In today's episode, we talk about PCOS, pregnancy rage, and how sometimes even men can struggle with postpartum depression. Welcome back to the Unplanned Podcast, people. We have two very special guests today, Rachel and Tom Sullivan.

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And not that I have all the answers or anything. I almost feel like there's probably... a lot of hope in community probably, or, or, or like even, um, and if you don't have community, maybe like if you're going through something traumatic to go talk to a therapist, because that's probably the closest thing you can get to community without actually having community.

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If you're in a new city and you don't know anybody, you know, um, that's, that's hard. Thank you for being open to sharing that. I know it's, I know for a fact that's going to help someone that's listening to this.

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Yeah, you're so right. I mean, there's a reason that so many marriages fail after kids because you go, I mean, that's a lot to go through as a couple, all the ups and downs of that together. And yeah, that's why I love your story because you guys are like making food and like, you know, doing everything. Doing good things in the world.

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You talk a lot about having good mentors, but I know that you guys are an awesome mentor as a couple to so many, not just online, but to all the college students you served. Think about the impact on those people. You're not just like...

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receiving wisdom from others you are sharing that so humbly and with so much service to others too so that's really cool share a little bit i know because i know we're probably yeah we're probably but share a little bit about your like the what you do with college students because it's so cool that's beautiful

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You can take a break from speaking if you would like.

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It was really bad. Like he, yeah, it was, he was in a room that had all the curtains closed. Like everything was normal for like a normal human being to sleep. But I mean, not to say that kid's not a normal human being.

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Wait, wait, wait. Okay, set the record straight for everyone watching this right now.

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Appalachian is the official way.

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Are you sure? Yeah. 99% sure?

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Okay, what is your accent? Chicago accent. Chicago. That makes sense.

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No, because I grew up five hours from Chicago, and I couldn't put a pin on where your accent was from, but Appalachian. Is that how they say it, though, when you're in the area? Because I feel like the locals probably know how to say it better than the people that aren't local.

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Okay, I like it. It is Matt. I feel gaslit right now because I've said Appalachian my whole life.

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He was like WWE-ing all through the pack and play.

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He's just not used to sleeping without it being pitch black. So he just would not go to bed until we got this.

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And then he was like, I can climb out of here.

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Yeah. Until we got the sleep tent and then boom, lights out.

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Yeah, and it went. And it hit.

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Okay. I feel like this, I feel like I might get hate for saying this, but I love sleep. One, I love two. I love those ages so much. Newborn stage, not my thing. It's just so hard. And I think part of what made it so hard though, Tom, was I didn't know there was light at the end of the tunnel. I thought that my life was going to be sleepless nights, being depressed, like going crazy.

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It just like keeps crawling up.

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You had to sign up at this point.

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Oh, yeah. You had to sign up at this point.

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I'm going to a TikToker's house. She's like, what?

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It's so cool because yes, the meal is probably delicious, but it just shows... The thing that I remember really lacking, it's so funny that it was on Sundays because in college I was so sad on Sundays because that's when my family would all have a meal at my grandma's house.

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And I would always tell Matt, I'm like, I'm sad on Sundays because we'd always be with grandma and like our whole family together. And now I'm just alone on Sundays and it just feels like not an event. So that's so cool that like you're not just providing that meal, like you're providing community and like a sense of home and that like comfort that comes with it. Yeah.

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Because it's just like you are giving so much to your child to keep them alive and take care of them and love on them. And you're trying so hard just to be the best parent you possibly can be. But like it's just hard. There's just like no there's not like really an easy answer, I think, to get through that. It's just really, really hard.

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Does that freak you out with privacy and stuff at all?

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Wait, what if there was a non-for-profit that just fed people free food?

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I know, but I feel like you have to pass certain criteria. What if it was literally just for anybody? You could be a billionaire or you could have not a penny to your name and you can just come here and eat for free.

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That's awesome.

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That gets me fired up. What you guys are doing gets me fired up. I just love to hear stories of people doing good things just because. Not because of any benefit to them, just because. That's awesome. Well, thank you guys so much for coming on our show. Thank you. This was so much fun. I really enjoyed talking to you. So thank you. This was great.

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And I know you guys need to go be parents and do all that. So we get it. But I guess if you've listened to this whole episode, please go like buy their book, buy their books.

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Yeah, their new one. Can we show it?

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Wait, yeah. Can we show the book? When does it officially come out? Yeah. What's the official date that it's out?

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And that's why I feel so much for single parents who do that by themselves. I don't know. They're like they are superhumans, dude. I don't know how they do that because we like I have a supportive partner and it was still so hard. Like I don't I don't know how single parents do it.

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It would make an amazing gift. You find out a friend's pregnant. I know, right? So fun. Perfect. It starts at week eight, right? Yeah. So that's usually ripe. You have a couple weeks to order the book.

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That's such a perfect gift.

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And it's so perfect, too, because you don't have to think. No one wants to meal plan. You could just be like, okay, well, what are we having this week, babe? What's our cute little thing to celebrate?

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I wish you guys were our neighbors. I would just come over to your house all the time. Seriously, I want to invite them for dinner. I'd say, honey, what do you got?

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You're busting through the door. Arnie, Arnie, what have you got?

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You guys, the book is beautiful and make an amazing gift or just something to have like on your bookshelf in your kitchen.

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Yeah, you can tell so much thought and like genuine, genuine thought went into that. So, yeah. Pick it up February 25th. Yes.

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Well, thank you both so much. And yeah, this is great.

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So bye. So bye. So bye.

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I feel like we had different sets of issues. C-sections, so... Well, so, basically, I feel like we had different issues, you know?

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Like, it was... We had, essentially, two babies, not, like, a toddler and a baby. Yeah. But then Griffin, like, mentally...

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Couldn't have predicted that.

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So it was just hard with her anxiety. Yeah.

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Separation anxiety. Big time.

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Can we just give it up?

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And I was like, this is the saddest, the saddest thing I've ever experienced. Like that was tough.

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And you had a baby too.

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When I was reading up about you guys, I was like, man, I might need... I might have had that.

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Thank you for being here. You have a beautiful family. Right before this, you guys were feeding kids, reading your children books. I can tell you're in the thick of the newborn stage, but then you also have a toddler. How are you guys surviving right now?

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It's been a tough little bit also sprinkled with like the most joy ever, but like, yeah, it all like kind of colors that season in a different way. So you guys are still like prioritizing each other and you still clearly love each other and your kids so much.

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I want to know more about this egg though. Were you intentionally doing the egg cooking wrong? What was going on?

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You want no yolk running off. Without the yolk being cracked. And what's your technique to make this happen, Tom? How do you get it right every time?

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oh yeah no and he was being like the above and beyond and i was just everything just like made me mad i can totally relate because i remember even at the time i was like can i control this because like i feel like i can but i also feel like in other ways like i can't like yeah where i was like am i is this hormones or am i just literally mean and then it wasn't until we were like where when was it that we had that like first conversation postpartum i was like i feel

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really good i feel good again i feel like i can see sunshine again like and i wasn't even like aware of like all this i was like i love you and it took like a minute like it took a while like it wasn't even like it was like postpartum too like that carried out and was actually even worse postpartum i feel like yeah actually it was definitely worse postpartum

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I was lucky enough to have the parents still together. I've never really seen them fight. Maybe as an adult, they bicker now, but they were very good about like

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keeping that you know private now i came from more of a broken home but our motivations are still the same you know in terms of i have my reasons for wanting to replicate what my parents have in a lot of ways and she has her reasons for to not do the opposite right the opposite and it comes from that same good place uh yeah that's another interesting here you know like like i'm so grateful like

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like exes like one i'm grateful for everything the good and bad because i have learned so much from but like now that i've gotten older some of my exes from way in the past like i've told the scenario it's like i'm like oh fuck i used to this has been a relationship it's like so fucking long ago yeah you know like 15 years ago you're like wait and you think about how much these people were in in those moments a big part they were your whole life oh yeah you know when you're dating someone and then to have the years go by where you're like

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was that a dream? Totally. It kind of feels like a surreal thing that, you know, maybe it's a surprise of getting older that she doesn't relate to yet. Sorry I'm young.

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If you're from there, you don't love it.

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Yeah. And also, I mean, obviously fires recently, it's been pretty devastating. Oh my God. Yeah. Malibu was hit too, right?

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Yeah, I think that's the thing. It was always going to be devastating.

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But how devastating? It seems like maybe they could have limited that. Absolutely.

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With Rick Caruso saving his mall. It's like, if he could like, clearly, if you have resources, things could have been done. Exactly.

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Connect with Spencer though.

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I love the way him and Heidi have come together. I love the way he's been just hyping up his wife, like obviously a terrible tragedy, but the way they have demonstrated that they're a family, I don't, maybe it's because obviously I'm in like this dad mode, husband mode, but I find it to be inspirational and attractive. And like,

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you know obviously terrible they lost everything but the way they are trying to rebound i i just i commend them so much i think it's been one of the coolest stories to come out of that whole terrible situation i couldn't agree with you more you know i've known spencer since i was i don't know 13 years old 12 13 years old long time man spencer and i go wait yeah crazy stories

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You're like, I want, I didn't really, you know, obviously didn't really care. It's like someday I hope pass the name, play some sports, whatever. And then as soon as River came out, you're just like, you couldn't imagine anything else.

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One of the cool things I love doing about this is we get to sit down with people like you and get to know them. And when you talk to someone for an hour or two, I mean, you don't learn everything about them, but you really get a sense of who they are.

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And then now, you know, it's just like, as we think about, you know, maybe growing our family and things like that, it's just like, there's something about like, it's really easy to love a daughter, you know? And I think as dads and we were, I was talking about with friends, it's just like, I got almost nervous having a boy. It's just like. Totally. Will I project too much onto my son?

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And, you know, for the most part, most of the people we interviewed seem like decent people, but like, especially people like Spencer, when they come in with like a big reputation. Yeah.

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And it was just so evident that this guy, like his character is strong, you know, you say what, you know, you know, mistakes or say this, say that, but like, you could tell that the things that matter most in life, he, he, he understood that, you know, and like his family and just like, and things like that, his friends, I remember him just saying,

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way he talked about you and the way he talked about his his wife yeah it's in learning about a story i'm fascinated with it and i have so much respect for him just because to want to play that villain role and to not give a what people think says a lot about you in the best possible way especially now we live in a world where everything people do is just for the the attention for the clicks the likes i mean people are forward thinking well if i do this how much attention people even know

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So if they're being sincere anymore, because everything is related to like, how are people going to react? What are people going to think? The word brand is now just like such a, I mean, I learned the word brand when I was in corporate America and they're like, you know, you got to protect your brand at work. I was like, Alan, what's that?

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this is like 15 years ago now like 12 year old kids are like so what's your brand you know it's like so fucking crazy so for him to like and even just both of you I think what I'm so fascinated by the two of you it's just like your guys is like childhood young adult life yeah you partied you got into some shit but like I'm almost kind of blown away how like relatively normal you guys are and down to earth relatively for sure

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I think down to earth is a better way of saying it, but like, you know, we've also met some people, they get some attention and you're just like, you can tell they lose themselves.

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Where do you think that came from? I mean, especially with just your crazy upbringing and just always being, I mean, really you've been one of the most famous people with one of the most famous families. It's sometimes impossible to some people. I just, I, it's like, I get it. It's like why they lost themselves. Like they, it's like they didn't have a chance.

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Like, how do you think you were able to do that?

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Will I try too hard? I think with River, it's just more like, man, you just want to love on her and just take care of her. It just feels so natural and so easy. It's a weird feeling.

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Well, and I'm sure you got a front row seat to some of that. Absolutely. Front row seat to maybe how some of the famous or rich people in your orbit or circle treated each other or treated themselves or lack of health or tragedy. That's the thing about tragedy. It doesn't care about your privilege. It doesn't care about...

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you know nothing uh what you have and and then you got to see like you're mentioning your best friends and how they treated each other and their family their connectedness oh and it was i'm sure it was just transforming yeah it was just so you know a lot of times you see the more like what is more money more problems i mean you see like the way their family unit was was just so tight and

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You and Spencer, you could argue that you guys were one of the founding fathers of reality TV. Do you watch it as a fan? Do you keep up just from- Reality TV now? Yeah, do you watch, whether it's The Bachelor or Traitors or whatever, Housewives, or are you just like, fuck this shit? I will say- Or you see behind the scenes?

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I met Natalie older, when I was a little bit older. She's still in okay shape, but every once in a while, she'll bring up those photos and then like, what the fuck? You're not allowed to just let yourself go now, buddy.

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We definitely didn't plan it that way. It was like, you know, we got engaged. We were like kind of, we had like tentatively planned a date, which was the time we got married. And then we found out Natalie was pregnant and it was like, fuck. You know, like, what do we do? It's like, we didn't really want to shock on it. And we wanted to have a wedding. We didn't want to extend it too long.

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She has some family members that have some health problems. So we were just like, fuck it. And just went for it. And now, like, you know. Where'd you guys do it?

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Oh, that's beautiful. It was like a Yellowstone. Georgia. It was like, yeah, they have this ranch. It's animal horses everywhere. It was beautiful.

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Yeah, we were very, we did a good job of making it very much about us. Like we ended up having like 200 people, but it was more like every decision we made, it's like, well, what do we want? Everyone else, I hope they enjoy themselves, but I'm not throwing a party for other people.

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That sounds fun. It was like the night before the party. You know, you have a bunch of family that comes in. And they want to, like, oh, I want to catch up. And I had friends come in. It was, like, the night of the NFL draft. And I was like, well, why don't you, like, you go there. And then I was like, I'll go there. I'm like, no. We're not leaving each other's side all weekend.

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So, like, we'll just figure out. But I am not worried about disappointing anyone. Like, they can do what they want if people want to come to us. But, like, what are we doing together this weekend?

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And I was really glad that we ended up doing that. Because I feel, yeah, you hear these stories. It's like couples get separated.

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Where do you fall in line?

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Natalie made me, Natalie was pregnant, right? So she didn't have one. Natalie, we were home. Did you want one?

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I was like you. I was like, I don't want to give a fuck. We were home in Wisconsin for Christmas, and my buddies were like, we should have a bachelor party. And I was like, for you? You need to go on one. So we're like, fuck it. We went to Vegas. And we mostly just gambled. But then we were like, well, I guess we're here. Let's go to a nightclub. And have you ever seen the movie Hall Pass?

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tall but yeah why do i why have i seen that it's like a bunch of like 40 year old men like their wives give them a hall pass and they go to like applebee's and thinking they're all cool it felt like that like obviously we weren't exercising hall passes but we went to like encore and we had a table and it was like you know how you go to a vegas nightclub and the guys were like you get a bottle and they're like you want us to bring up girls and we're like no no girls so like we're just a bunch of like 40 something old guys just standing there being like all right well do

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You want to get the fuck out of here? It was really pathetic and sad.

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It was cool to be with my friends and connect. You don't need to do it there.

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It was more of my friends, they were all married in Wisconsin. They wanted to kind of get out and have some fun and use me as an excuse.

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I am, yep. What made you want to do it?

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Well, you're, you're kicking ass. I know we're still like what, halfway through fairly early in the season. I think you're gonna do very well. I mean, physically you, you seem, you know, in, in shape, but more, but it's really not, it's yes, the physical aspect matters and that, that helps. Right.

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but especially towards the end uh the final stage i don't know how far you go so i didn't know how if you experienced that but when denise richards called me up and asking about it and i meant what i said to her i'm like denise because she she wanted to do well i'm like if you want to finish this shit you can't because it doesn't it's it's just mental you just have to not quit that's it's just about quitting or not quitting they're gonna try to get in your head they're gonna fuck with you you're

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Like, I was painting my nails. I was playing with Barbie. My sisters, I had the, like the little GI Joes and then they had the big Barbies.

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You're going to get hurt, but like, you know, short of you being medically discharged. And actually I thought Denise crushed it. I mean, to find out she tore her breast implants after jumping from the helicopter and she stayed in it. But like, it really is this mental aspect and it's,

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you know again we come from different backgrounds hannah brown won the first one me and tyler finished the second one and i really think there's something about being in reality tv world and the and the fucking mental gymnastics that like i think in different ways we've had to deal with that i really you know you clearly have had to deal with adversity you've clearly had to show resilience throughout your life to go through all the crazy shit you've gone through right

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and still like be what like you said a seemingly a down-to-earth guy like it requires certain qualities and i think those are the types of qualities that get you through a show like that so i'm i'm betting that you're gonna do pretty well only time will tell we'll see do you feel like it was like physically or mentally like what what was harder for you

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You have sisters.

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I have, I have a lot. I have 10 siblings. That's right.

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It's just about getting back up.

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So I have, I'm surrounded by sisters. So it was my older sister, me, and then I have two sisters after me. And then she had four boys in a row and three girls in a row. Wow. So my closest brother is like seven years younger, which is not that big of a gap nowadays. But when I was younger, it was just me and my, it was, it was like, I had just sisters. Absolutely.

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Yeah. I mean, so much about the show, you see people like you doing the physical, like jumping down a cliff or whatever the fuck, but it's really in between those challenges. That really is the tough part.

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I thought ours was brutal. I told Natalie watching, I'm like, I hate to say it, but theirs might look a little harder than what we had to go through.

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So it was like, yeah, it was a lot of hanging out with them. And yeah, I remember being like in first grade, just being like, well, why can't I paint my nails? You know, you can, why not?

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What was your biggest motivator to finish? Me, it was like I had found out Natalie was pregnant. We had just found out. So much that it was like... Nervous to tell people, you never know. And I just, for me, it was like the idea that my kid, I didn't know we were having a girl at that point, could watch this, you know, and memorialize that, you know.

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And just, I know Natalie, she wanted me to go along because she thought I'd look hot. So I was like, I can't look like a pussy, you know.

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And my kids are future kids was a huge motivator for me and just in wanting to have a chance to like show them that like it was that similar for you or what else is motivating you?

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Yeah, sometimes you just have to think they're doing the best they can. Not that it's an excuse. Right. But it's, yeah, I think sometimes when we have expectations of our parents or we compare to other people, I think those expectations get mirrored in terms of make us feel like, I'm sure as a kid you wondered, like, what the fuck did I do wrong? You know, like what, why not me? Right. You know?

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And it really probably has nothing to do with that. Not even probably.

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bad you know the wedding just for yeah and just know that I do think yeah at our wedding moment where I don't know if I hope I'm wrong I don't know if she'll ever get that because I don't know how aware he is right about his shortcomings but he was he was able to open up about his love for her in a way that I don't think she's

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How are things with your stepsisters and things like that? Is that a frustrating question? Because people have so many different expectations of what they think your relationship should be.

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You know, in adulthood, do you feel like. along with your dad like the past kind of just gets left behind you guys because as adults can just continue whether you get together a few times a year or not just focus on being family and and let the and whatever happened in the past just kind of not even dwell on it

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Our daughter's also a genius.

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I mean, I have 10 siblings and they're all my full siblings, but it's a set. I mean, you know, the ones who are 15, 20 years younger than me, I think, you know, we all wish we'd talk more, but sadly, some of them I talked to,

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they're busy handful of times a year, you know, it's like as a, sometimes as the older brother, I feel like I should maybe follow up with them, but like, you know, yeah, you're, it's the same thing. You just, and it was almost like I grew up, they grew up in a different household. I mean, I, I had three siblings born after I left the house.

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Pop into the pigeon, you're like, whoa, where'd that come from? I turned into a hillbilly.

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Great, though, having a kid, though. I think you just said, like, if it doesn't show up at my front door, like, I don't give a fuck. You know what I'm saying? I really just care about her, my daughter. I mean, I care about, obviously, my immediate family. But once you have a family of your own, it's really just...

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that's every decision you make is centered around that and it really just makes life it puts things in focus in ways that like you just never thought you would i mean you think about the shit i would dwell on or waste my energy on or just like think about you know you care less about yourself and it's it just makes so true life happier and easier and it's a it's a real blessing

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Yeah, I'm very lucky to have Natalie. She's like, I feel like I'm one of the most hands-on dads, but like compared to like the finer details that Natalie does, like there's little things that she's researched. I'm more like, you know, just let's just feel it out. Like, just trust your gut, you know? But she's like... kind of good.

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She's always right. So after Special Forces, I know you're DJing. That's going great for you. What do you think is next for you? Do you think public eye, you'll ever pop back in? Or do you think you'll just kind of keep doing what you're doing?

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And I'm like, you have a lot of siblings grew up around babies, very familiar, but I've learned a lot that I had no idea. And Natalie brings in my attention for like the little details that she looks into and things like that.

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Do you have any life hack things that keep you young? Are you a relatively healthy, healthy guy?

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So Hawaii is no joke. Well, her cousin has a beautiful place on the shores of Hawaii. And he took me out surfing. Didn't seem as dangerous as yours, but he was like, don't go over there. Whatever you do, it's like really shallow and there's coral reefs. And next thing you know, I'm like literally in the exact spot where he's not. And I'm just like trying not to float.

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And I was getting my ass fucking kicked. There was a second I was pretty scared. It wasn't quite like yours, but it beat the fuck out of me. And the ocean's no joke, man.

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I was just about to say that having a purpose keeps you young, keeps you focused. Just being a dad, being a husband more than anything that gives you like a, if you don't know why you're waking up.

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life's so much more difficult.

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It doesn't matter what it is, but just something that you love to wake up and aspire to achieve or attack or go for.

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She's, she's, um, that's great. We'll have to get them together.

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She said dada and mama, but like she had no idea what she was saying.

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And then over Thanksgiving, she looked at the dogs and goes dog. And I was like,

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And especially like for us, like they seem to bond from day one.

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Now it's like as the river gets older, her and I are bonding more and more. Totally. Like I'm actually somebody in her life now, you know?

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And I look forward to like that to be better and better.

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Are they in Hawaii still?

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It's good to be with you.

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Uh, Brody, this has been so much fun, man. I really appreciate your time. It's, uh, it's been great to continue to know you wishing you the best of luck the rest of the way on special forces and, uh, anything else you want to plug or put out there?

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Well, congratulations on fatherhood and everything else that's great going on in your life, man.

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Well, we just want to give a special thank you to Brody and to all you listening. We'll be back tomorrow. See you then.

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It's been a long time. All of us are on TV.

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I think I've been hoping to have you on for quite a bit now.

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He's got to keep it exciting, you know. The more I looked into you, it's just the more I was like, man, I feel like me and Brody have a lot of similarities in terms of our relationship history and things like that. We're relatively the same age. We both look good for our age, you know. We try really hard, man. Moisturize, moisturize.

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I mean, I've, you know, people certainly because I was on the bachelor know at least a chunk of my dating history. And then after that, you just kind of being in the public eye, especially if you're known for like, once you go on the bachelor, like half your audience really only gives a shit about who you're dating, who you're not dating.

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And then even before that, you know, I had been engaged before. I certainly had my downs in relationships. And obviously now that, you know, Natalie and I are married, it's been a great relationship. And I've learned, you know, a lot from my past mistakes. Like, how is your relationship different? And I guess, what have you learned from, you know, all the other relationships that you've been in?

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you know, through the various engagements I had been a part of. It was just more like, you know, it's 2024. Yeah. Fuck marriage. I don't really care. Totally. Obviously that changed for me mostly because of Natalie. I know you guys are engaged, but was that a hurdle? You know, you've, you've been married before, right?

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The girls, oh, they just. When you guys were pregnant, when your fiance was pregnant. Or are you hoping for a gender? Were you kind of, whatever happens?

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somewhere else and not in front of the kid. One of the things I'm most proud about me and Natalie is, well, thankfully we have good communication and we rarely fight, but I just love the environment we raised our daughter in and just that energy. Cause I think that definitely matters. And like, you know, like you mentioned, you know, Natalie and I kind of have that difference in our upbringing.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Literally, like he's booking me. And I go, oh no, I'm married and I have children. He goes, what? You look way too young. Sorry, you just look too young. And I was like, well, thank you. And so we keep going and he goes, next time, Natalie with no H. I was like, there won't be one. I'm going to do different Whole Foods. For sure. Thanks. So then I'm like, I finish. I'm like, this is fucking freak.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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So then I finished going around. There's one aisle open and he's in the fucking checkout. And I'm like, nope. I'm taking another lap. And it was just like the way that this man was trying to sell this as like, what a coincidence. Meanwhile, he's stalking you in the grocery store. You're literally watching what aisle I go down and then following me and being like, oh.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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I like to think he's sitting at one end of the hallway going one, two, three. Okay. And like runs down to the end.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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I feel like especially like grocery stores, I've had that happen in like a Target and you're just kind of like, I'm here running errands.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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It was very. Do you want to become your own boss? Number? Yeah. Yeah.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Very culty. I'm just not into that. No. I'm like, hit on me in a place where like, not now, but when I was single, I'm like, hit on me in a place where it would

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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I was not thinking about him in regards to this whatsoever. He was even dating Taylor during this whole thing. Well, maybe that's the whole thing.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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He could have muted her. Like, you know, he's dating the most famous, like has been through this world, knows every trick of the trade, knows what's going to get press, what's not going to get press. Like him unfollowing is going like he could have just been like, you know, I don't want to see his stuff anymore. Like mute. But no, he wants to be part of the story, which I find crazy.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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It's up. It's petty. So the headline is that he unfollowed Ryan Reynolds specifically. So Ryan Reynolds still follows Travis Kelsey. Travis Kelsey has like 1600 people that he's following. So Blake Lively doesn't follow Travis Kelsey, but that's like a separate. But she may have never. She may have never. Yeah, that was never part of the headline. Yeah. Yeah.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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We did it. It was hard. I didn't think we were going to make it. We did say next year. We were like, next year, our captions will be jokey.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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But it's just like he's being like roped into it now because you chose to like publicly.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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It also was a choice for you to say that my forehead was big. I was going to say. Armani. We listen and we don't judge. Armani.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Nick was scrambling. I was scrambling. You were reading him to filth and he was just like, well, your forehead's big. Yeah.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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He's like, that haircut was a good haircut. Literally. You loved it.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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No. Honestly, I am. I've gotten to a point now where, like, I think seeing River have my chin has made me love my chin.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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You know, because it's like and I've I've hated my chin my whole life. And it's crazy because I got my chin from my mother. And I know my mother used to always be like, sorry, honey, like that was me, you know. And so I was bullied for it for a lot of years. And so, like, finally, I got to a point where I look at my daughter and I see my chin and I'm like, no, wait, it looks so cute on her.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Like, I love it. I gave her that chin. And I think that same thing about my forehead now.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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But people were in the comments being like, oh, they're definitely fucking getting divorced. Wow. Like, Nick talked about her body parts.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Yeah. Thank God for you somewhere. It's someone in the middle of nowhere for clarifying that I am not happy here, I guess. And I'm not happy in my marriage.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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But the truth behind it is that Nick was like, do you want to have a competition? And I was like, oh, with what? And he was like, who can? Because we got massages, but we had to go one at a time. So he was like, while the other person's in the massage... Let's see who can make the best anniversary post.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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I forgot that you sitting in your small town of Roanoke. Roanoke? No, what's going on? Specific. I don't know.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Know what's going on at our home. Bad things happened in Roanoke. Sorry.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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You did address me as a friend, which is nice, but then I also held your bag for the photo shoot. So, I mean, I played both parts. The photographer's like, can you hold that? Or can you scoot out of the way?

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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And the whole time she started, she was like, Cece, Cece, yeah, Cece talks about you. And I was like, who is Cece? Yeah. And then eventually I was like, oh, Sierra.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Should we be calling you Cece? No, that's just like my nickname for what's always been my nickname since I was a kid. But like Caitlin, her sister, her daughters call me Cece since they were little. And so all the little kids can't say Sierra, obviously. So we start off with Cece, and then it just sticks. It was a good event, though.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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It was one of those events where they, like, pass around, like, the food you can eat, but it's literally the size of a penny. Hors d'oeuvres. Yeah, but it's, like, smaller than an hors d'oeuvre.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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You're like, fuck yeah, I do. Sure. I didn't, but now the way that you said that... Let me try it.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Well, speaking of eating, Gwyneth Paltrow is eating carbs and cheese again. Woo! Welcome back, Gwyn. I don't know. I'm kind of upset about it. I'm like, is this giving end to the world? It's kind of. It's apocalyptic time. If Gwyneth Paltrow is at the point in her life where she needs to eat carbs, what hope is there for any of us?

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Listen, I just think she hasn't had like a stomach ache in a while. And she was like, I need a little dare.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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She's like, I've heard all about these hot girls with their hot tummy issues. And I kind of want to be part of that.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Who can find the best photos? Who can write the best caption? It was a competition. Who do you think won? First, I want to know who went first.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Do you put them in the freezer? Frozen grapes. Frozen mango. A little bit of tajin.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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I will say grapes have a lot of sugar in it, though, so you have to be careful. It's natural. It's natural. Well, some of them are, if you're getting the cotton candy grapes. Not those DMOs. No, I'm buying fruit.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Cotton candy grapes are technically fruit. The fruit they sell in the South. They're not like injecting cotton candy.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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He's part of the multiverse right now. Which Spider-Man would Schwartz be? Is he Tom Holland? Is he Andrew Garfield? Is he Tobey Maguire?

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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He's Tobey Maguire because you'll just never forget him. Exactly. And he's so cute.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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And he's one of those faces that you see and you're just like, ah. You know, you just like immediately smile. You're like, ah, Schwartzy.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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He's always smiling. Even when he does like really bad things, you're all like, mm. Yeah, you just want to like, aw.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Dropped the cancer pass. Jesse, look what you've done. I can't control what my idiot friends say.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Girl, yes, you can. So you just want me to be a robot? Yeah. Every line in the book.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Well, I was going to ask you to be my girlfriend at the end of the book.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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But no, I don't think so. But now, after this. No, I mean, I know we met each other's parents, but.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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We were all just getting PTSD, being like, oh, fired, shot, fired.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Lexi was good, though. She held her ground. She was incredible. She said robot. No. I never said that.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Yeah. Like, uh, and when she was, when he was like, I can't control what my friends say or something like that. And he was like, she was like, but your actions are making your friends feel icky. That was an absolute mic drop.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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And then for him to immediately throw all of his friends under the bus. Well, I guess I just can't trust my friends.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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You're like, this is literary. He's a poet. I am an author. You're a poet. He's a poet.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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But even West was like. But West was sitting on the bed with the two of them kind of like feeding into it too. He was like, dude, we were in the car. He called her and then was like, all right, I'll call you in a bit. It's like, we're going to be there in an hour. Yeah.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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That's why I said I think he was up first trying to defend Jesse. No, but he also threw West under the bus. And then that's what he said. Yeah, he literally went, no, Jesse actually was on the phone and is actually needy. And I'm like, he's the one creating all of this chaos because he's not ready to commit, but he needs to make it so if he bails at any time, everybody knows she was crazy.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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It was grammatically correct and spelled correctly. Some of it. I mean, what I read.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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What do you want me to do with my days? I can't flirt with my very hot friend, Sierra, all the time. I just have to treat her like a human being. Are you kidding me?

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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The way his brain couldn't process Sierra being like, fine, you want to throw me under the bus and act like I'm doing something to you? This is what it's like to not have me around.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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And then he's immediately like, Sierra's acting weird. Sierra's being like really weird towards me. I don't know what's going on.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Well, sure. I think my biggest issue with Jesse is like, he seems like a great guy. Like he seemed like a good person to be friends with. But however, I have an issue where like, where a lot of men have this relationship with women that they are quote unquote friends with, but they are never friends with them. They see them as a potential.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Jesse and Sierra. And it's like, you cannot actually be friends with a woman when you're only interested in them is whether they may want to have sex with you or not.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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I would take crazy going. Jesse wouldn't be like, Oh my God, I'm so sorry.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Yeah. They're like, Jesse, can you talk? Can you turn around really quick? It's just, it pisses me off because then it's like, he's going to be like, no, she's just my friend. I'm like, no, you don't see her as a person. You see her as a potential, like, interest. And that is all she is to you.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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It's like, it just, it really infuriates me. Sorry to go back to the tan line porn, but I honestly thought that that was very wholesome of Carl.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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much though no i i just i think he's made a lot of growth and i think that just like that's such a wholesome thing versus like incest or like yeah he wasn't like oh i want to see like it was definitely no less or more weird than massage porn from jesse or whatever the fuck west said high quality he's like i can't even go back to normal let me give all my subcategories but you know what he's honest yeah that was wait i

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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The internet used a photo of the two of them on the bed with their little legs crossed. And they said, this is who greets you in the situation ship gates of hell. And it was Jesse and Wes. Very, very true.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Sierra, what do you think of Carl kind of hitting on Sierra? That was brutal.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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And it was like innocent. And he was just like, maybe I'll shoot my shot.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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He was like, let me have a sit down conversation and just tell her how I feel and see what happens.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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I think Natalie won the photo department and I think Nick won the caption department.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Yeah. Some people referred to him as like, I can't remember if it was in the show or like if it was outside, but they referred to him as the Mr. Rogers of summer house. And I was just like, it's so true.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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But also like Sierra would be an idiot to go for Carl because like Lindsay would literally forget it.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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The difference between Carl and Jesse is Carl sees Sierra as a person and is attracted to that person. And Jesse thinks she's hot and is purely going off of it.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Damn, that leg's turning me on right now. Yeah. Or like, you know, just be like, oh, that was kind of a stupid joke.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Sierra did react to Carl saying, I love Carl, but I was not expecting that. But I get it. No, I'm just kidding. And then she said she referred to the friendship as a special relationship and revealed we did have a lot of quality time this summer. And it was so great to get to know him in a different light. So she's friend zoning him.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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And they did have like a little bit of chemistry. Her first season, I think it was season six, where it was just like, we don't know where she's going to go. But then she was talking to Luke. So it was wasted. And then Carl's brother passed and everything. But they had a very, very, very sweet relationship, even from the start of meeting.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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I said after we left, I said, so who do you think won the Instagram war? And Nick goes, war? This was just like a fun, friendly little like challenge.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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And if I'm not invited to the next snooze fest, I'm going to rampage.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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I'm also curious about Amanda's storyline the rest of the season because the reunion seating chart was released and she's first chair. So I'm like, what happens with Amanda? What did you do to deserve that?

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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And if so, it would have been probably like the season that Kyle cheated or something like season two or three. Mm-hmm. But like she doesn't really have a lot besides like launching. She's just kind of like just like the fun friend that's there and like Kyle's partner. But like clearly something has to happen because it's Paige and Amanda flanking him.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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But she also responded to it saying like she was also shocked by the seating chart. So we're all just like, what?

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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I was going to say, I stay up late with my best friend, but we sing Disney show tunes wasted off of Rose 8 till like 3 in the morning. Yeah. It's pretty wholesome.

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And then we ran into Joey and we're like, sorry, Joey, we're only having Kelsey. He's like, honestly, she's better without me.

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Powerhouse. If you, if you ever want to become a mom, you're going to be like crushing.

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Did you get in any fights with anyone? Stagecoach or any influencers?

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Super talented, famous girl. No, no. You did recently like open up about like your BBL that you got. Yeah. And how are you feeling like post-search?

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bbl and i'm like i think that people think that it's for real you do have a funny way of like i feel like a lot of people in the public world will either like ignore comments not read comments not like acknowledge comments and then some people get like mad and like fight back and argue with people and then i feel like there's you who just like makes such light and just like goes with the joke kind of when did you like start realizing that

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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traitor that's how i feel that people get in trouble yeah being nice just being nice right it's like either being nice or like not being nice and then people being like well you were talking to everybody but you weren't really talking to me and that makes me think you're a traitor all right i feel like you could play it like whichever way you play it somebody can just go for you you know what i mean it's like everyone's a target but the

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Kind of Our dog Jeff A little prickly, sensitive Grumpy a little bit But all in all like a pretty good dog But like he's a damn good dog He's a loyal He loves you and he is a damn good dog But he's a little like When you come near him He's like not again Like

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Every time she comes near him, he gets up and moves. Like, he's like, don't even think about coming next to me. And then Steve is just like, we'll sit there and let her, like, crawl over him. And it's so sweet. But, you know, Jeff is definitely Nick. How old is Jeff?

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Yeah. He's just like, I don't, he's Nick. He's keeping tabs on you guys. He's like, first Steve, now River.

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And after we watched Lady and the Tramp last night, and after watching Lady and the Tramp, it did make me understand Jeff a little bit more.

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I mean, it depends on what kind of dog you get. Some you can like bring with you. Do you bring Jeff around? We do. We usually bring Jeff and Steve with us. It was a lot easier.

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It was a lot easier before River. Yeah. Obviously, we only have two hands. Yeah. So we will have to like bring my mom to help with River. You know, there's a lot of moving parts.

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Which also, I find it very confusing that they rearrange the festival every year.

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I saw your dad and his girlfriend. They're like official. Yeah. At that Hulu event.

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We're debating. She's in the process now where it's like she's done all the interviews and stuff and now it's like waiting.

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She's just like waiting to hear what's going on. Right. You know, and she said that she was like, should I just message them and be like, hey, would love an update or else like would love to do something else with my summer. Like, you know, would love to make plans. And she said they responded being like, hey, thank you so much for reaching out. We don't know. Yeah. She was like, OK.

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Yeah, the last time we went, they've rearranged it. So I just memorized where everything was, and I get there, and it's like, nope, jumbled it up. Try to figure out where your station is now.

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But I feel like I'm just, I don't, I feel like the public, you know.

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Yeah. Did Barbara slide into his DMs or like how did they come? Did he know who she was when?

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Yes. He's dating the 25-year-old girl. She's engulfed in football. I mean, she's... I wasn't sure. I didn't want to say. You're like a big Vikings fan, right? Yeah. She's inducted.

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That happened to my Trader Joe's recently. It's really upsetting. It's frustrating.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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You just memorize where everything is. Is it the same as Coachella's setup?

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We're not talking about this. It does make us wonder why you're not talking about it. But then they brought up the Instagram post where it's like him laying down on the beach and like she's on top of his legs and like whatnot. And it's like, you guys are doing very Instagram couple-y things. Why would you not want to talk about your relationship? You don't have to put it out there.

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And at the right age of 77. Is he 77? How old is he? I don't know. He's up.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, for sure. She was saying that next. I was also, I was going to go into that next, but it does. I feel like a lot of it does matter on where you are. And maybe she's like, listen, I don't, want any of that at all. I just like want, you know, kind of like Dave Portnoy's girl.

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Like he's made it very clear he's not having children and he's not remarrying, you know, like I think he's still currently married to his first wife. And it's like why him and Silvana broke up. And now he just has gone like public with his new girlfriend, who's a young blonde. And it's like, listen, if she's not looking to like get married and have kids right now, then like have fun. Yeah.

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so many easy options I know I'm gonna be like I slid into his DMs I'm like we met at a bar yeah crazy grocery store sounds believable honestly should we get into Dorit and PK I know you're not a big fan of reality TV but Dorit Kemsley she is a Beverly Hills housewife okay She's going through a little separation and kind of the whole season. It was like, are they going to get back together?

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Like, are they going to make it work? What's going on? And PK was seen making out with another blonde reality TV star over the weekend. And she looked very similar to his legally wife, Dorit Kemsley. and which then made her file for divorce.

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Like saw the photo and was like, and I'm done. Yep. Wrap it up. That'll do it.

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Yeah. He went on Instagram and made, do we have his, he said, no one plays the victim better than the one who caused the damage on a black screen.

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mysterious pk does love a like notes app comic sans yeah yeah it was a weird font it was a very weird font it was like it was it was a weird font you watched him like scroll through the fonts and like play with a couple of them and then he landed on that one he took away his power by going with that font it looks like i wrote this myself

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Wait, have you seen the TikTok trend that it's like, I'm Sierra and I've made the plans.

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it took away his power it really did yeah it was like it was like a an old man putting on a shirt that he thought was cool without asking any of his friends if he should step out you know he's always just sending these written statements or like feeling the need to shut down a room or whatever with just like Black screen, white font.

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But the woman he was making out with was on the season 12 of The Amazing Race. And she's also dated Ryan Seacrest in the past. So I think that they're all just kind of probably in the same circles. But it is shocking how much she looks like Dorit.

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Yeah, it does make me judge this woman more than it does make me judge PK because I am confused at like what.

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And then it would be like, I'm Natalie and I got the rings for our anniversary. I'm Natalie and I drove everywhere this weekend. I'm Nick and I got high. Anyways, yeah, so we left sunny Palm Springs Saturday morning.

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Alcoholic. We know that. Recovering. Not sure. Doritza doesn't know the state of his.

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And that's his wife, Dorit. Go to the third photo over. And that is the new woman he was caught making out with. Like, where are they? Does it say? Oh, yeah.

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PK's biggest thing is that he's Boy George's manager. No one's stalking him.

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Isn't it like an Italian restaurant? Yeah, an Italian restaurant really popular in New York. I guess we have one in Beverly Hills area, but it's like going to Craig's or something where it's like you don't think that paparazzi is going to be out there. So he wanted to be seen. Whether he called them himself, I don't know, but this is what's jarring to me.

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He's also publicly posting on his Instagram stories, like dramatic, dramatic things. So he's doing this on purpose.

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Looking like you're the most moved on and I guess settled. He's trying to make it seem like she's causing all of this drama where it's just like you don't have to react to it either.

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Yeah, and you are following what she's doing. Yeah. I think he doesn't want to lose his diamond. I think that's what's going on.

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He posted on his Instagram stories, no one plays the victim better than the one who caused the damage.

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It's a disease. But what about Taylor Frankie Paul and Dakota over Stagecoach?

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It comes out May 12th. I've seen it. Oh, I'm excited. Yeah, it's very good.

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But we have Dakota like blocked Taylor. Yeah. Dakota blocking Taylor. You have Taylor and Macy in a car doing a TikTok being like, if you're done with your ex, move on to the next. And she's like, I guess I'm self-sabotaging their relationship again. And then... Hours later, here's Taylor posting her and Dakota. Dakota licking her neck. And it's like, wait, what is happening?

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But her caption was, like, stagecoach with my castmates. Like, it was, like, not, like.

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It wasn't, like, love. It was with my castmates. Yeah. Very business.

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nice and like whenever you see them together you're like oh there's no drama but then you watch the show and you're like oh my gosh you all hate each other no it's crazy there's a lot of drama brewing oh she actually edited her caption and said I never let my heart go all the way with my castmates and co-parent thank you at Stagecoach for having us oh with my castmates and co-parent co-parent okay

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It's like a hickey. Sierra brought up an interesting point earlier with the Mormon wives where it's like, what's the line between their real lives and what they're doing? I don't think they know.

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I think it's so blurred at this point because it's like, I hate them on the show right now, but I'm actually best friends with them on TikTok.

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No, I'm saying like them hating each other on the show or it's like you hear all the drama about what's going to happen in the show and then you get on TikTok and it's like, no, they're literally hanging out together.

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Yeah. Sounds like a fun weekend. Doesn't it scream anniversary? It screams honeymoon. It screams anniversary. It screams, like, vacation.

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I don't know who's friends. I don't know who's not. I don't know who's pregnant. I don't know who's not. Put it this way.

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Are you confused? Because I'm confused. I think the only person I'm clear on is Demi and Whitney are friends. Yes. They did like all their press together. All their photos are together. I think that's like they're buddies. But like the rest, I'm confused.

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And then they all posted to promote Vanderpump Villa. So then I'm seeing like everybody in the photos and I'm like, who is friends with who?

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Yeah, they had to make some changes to the format because I think it was just so trying to do a below deck situation. So now they've kind of upped the ante with a almost game show aspect of it where the people that are working at the villa, they're now competing for like the top spot as like pretty much employee of the season.

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And they'll win $30,000 plus contract with Lisa Vanderpump, whether it's like chef or whether like to work at one of her restaurants or

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$30,000 to win the show. Sounds like minimum wage to me. But then you get an opportunity with Lisa.

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I feel like that was I wouldn't say we should take that. But I will say that maybe she did see a little something and maybe someone asked her on a red carpet. Someone did ask Kristen Doty about our interview on a red carpet.

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So I don't find it that impossible that someone asked her about the phone call that she made to Allie Luber being like, hey, why would you convince her to go back to her abusive ex-boyfriend? That seems toxic. And she was like, oh, I actually don't support him any longer. I'm separating myself from James Kennedy.

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Well, she's giving them $30,000 and then indebting them with a job.

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And I will say what is interesting about the show is because I did think that Vanderpump Villa was going to be a set location and that she would try to get people to want to like go and reserve it or whatever. But last season was in France. This season's in Italy. So it's like

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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just for the show like there is no there's no standing villa that you could go visit off season Vanderbilt Villa is not real it's not what's the point it's a house they rented that's what I was confused about it's an Airbnb they're at a castle this time but like it's yeah okay when they're done with the castle I guess they break it down and pick the next location whatever they built in there are you saying her entire world is not real and fake

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I would never expose somebody in such a way. Yes. That's crazy. Well, Jax Taylor was caught exposing his crotch in public.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Joey would never. Well, he's... Wait, who is this? Jax Taylor. From Vanderpump Bulls and the Valley. Oh, okay. Yes, yes, yes. He was walking down the street, I guess, going into a grocery store. Paparazzi are there. And he decides to lower his pants to scratch... deep inside his pants and paparazzi got it all. Is he wearing underwear?

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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No. It's Jack, so probably not. He like full on is like a pull down and then a scratch. That's disgusting. This man has a child. This man has a son.

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Yes. Do you think that was like on purpose? It's just like I can't understand whether or not he knew the paparazzi were there. It's just like why would that ever be an appropriate thing for you to do out in public?

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Does he think he's like, it's like a fuck you to the paparazzi or something?

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I don't know. But it's also like, I think he's crashing out right now because he was on like live and his publicist was like, get off right now.

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Log off. He was on for like five minutes talking about like how great he's doing, how he's been to rehab, how he's a changed man.

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His publicist is like, you have to stop talking about it. He's like, no, I'm doing actually pretty good. She's like, get off. You're done.

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Stop talking publicly right now. And he's no longer doing the podcast with Brittany. So he started a new podcast called In the Mind of a Man podcast. That's scary.

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And it should be the mind of Jax. He labeled himself a walking red flag. And he's wearing a shirt. with it on it. So he's really leaning into this branding. That's all I have to say on that. I guess.

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influencers not like under fire because it's not that big of a deal but like people kind of giving them hate for like what they're naming their children have you seen any of this yeah I feel like I've seen some is there any specific it's wild it's gotten to the point I think someone commented this of like you're just like you're just naming objects like these are not children it's just like some people are like oh like here are names that we love but we're not using and it's like for our girl we're thinking umbrella and it's like that's okay

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You know, it's like we also all at some point we're like Northwest is crazy to name your daughter. And now we're kind of like, honestly, it's a vibe.

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As we're driving home, we're driving in the rain. We're like, oh, like how crazy would it be if like the place we're staying at was like sold out of massages for the weekend? Like that would be crazy. And then we're like, hmm, maybe we should call and book one. So Nick calls and they're like sold out. Sorry, we have some like Monday afternoon. We're like, oh, not going to work.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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How old is Apple? She's an adult. She's got to be grown by now. But that's the whole point. When we went into naming River, like, you have to think about, like, yes, you are naming a cute little, like, girl with pigtails who's, like, super cute and baby woozy and, like, so cute. Then you're naming, like, a girl who's in high school.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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And then you're naming, like, a CEO boss bitch who, like, is heading meetings being like, hello, everyone. My name is Mexico Tarantula. And I am here to get – it's like you have to at some point, like –

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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adams no yeah that's what i was just thinking oh was it tomorrow what was it yesterday afternoon what was afternoon was francesca fargo's like on her list of we we aren't using what we love afternoon everyone was like girl you can keep because i think she was like i don't want to say this one yet because we might use it after news lock it in poetry okay that's a thing that's just a thing

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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You know, and honestly, I don't really give a fuck because it's not my kid's name. I don't have to call you that. Somebody's kid's name is Rumble Honey.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Hello. It's like really good. Like, I think whoever has a kid next, it should name them. Honestly, like Mark. Yeah, like the most basic name, and then it will be so unique. Yeah. You know, because everyone's just going bonkers.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Oh, okay. Loves Giacomo Gianotti. Oh, yeah. Giacomo Gianotti. We met him on it. Like that name.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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But he also said he got, like, very bullied for it because he was like, it was very Italian. So I think he went by, like, Jack. Jack. Yeah, I went by Jack.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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I feel like teachers have to be like the kids that are coming in with these teachers learning how to pronounce and spell them.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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You know, they're so nervous. I remember my teachers being like, OK, everyone, you only have one name to remember. And I have 27. So cut me some slack. And they'd be like going down being like, I'm going to mess this up. So I'm just going to go with your last name if you could just tell me how to say that. Smith, what is your first name? Okay, got it. Thank you.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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You know, it was like they were all... And now I bet they're like... And now you have like... Yeah.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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You know who has a fun name and is really being talked about right now?

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Well, romance, maybe, maybe, maybe. We don't know. This is all... They were definitely very... Chris.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Her and Chris were very... From Love Island, UK. Yeah. They were very like... They had a bond. They were holding hands. There was chemistry. They were snuggling. They were kissing foreheads. They were, you know, showing affection. Mm-hmm. And JoJo comes out and says, you know what, everyone? I am not lesbian. I'm queer.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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I think the biggest thing of this is that, well, it's normal for, like, someone who's, like, 21 to be figuring out their sexuality. Yeah, JoJo's only 21. JoJo's 21. This is basically, like, her in, like, theater camp figuring stuff out.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Yeah. So, like, it makes sense that you're figuring stuff out. I think what gets tricky is when the branding comes into it because now JoJo has kind of branded herself as, like, lesbian pop singer. And now she's like, well...

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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37 minutes. No, no, no. Like his porn search or whatever it was. He loves a good massage.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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queer and everyone's like Jojo but she's allowed to do whatever she wants but her former partner of recently a couple days ago is non-binary yes they're non-binary so like it could you know but Kath like I guess sent like a letter they like all read letters from home and in Jojo's letter from home her mom writes and Kath says they're very keen on seeing you when you get out and Jojo was like

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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That's fucking it? You're keen to see me? You don't miss me? You don't love me? You don't, like, can't wait to kiss me? Nothing? And so then as soon as JoJo exited Big Brother, there was a breakup with Kath.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Yeah, JoJo went to the party, to the after party. She said, you are dumped. And dumped them at the after party. And now everyone's like, okay, so what's going on?

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Yeah. So... Always providing us entertainment, JoJo Siwa. Thank you so much for your service.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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yeah it's like tt is a little too much all right okay just a silly girl he's trying to be hip he's trying to be hip they don't say tanny they don't no soup yeah they say soup what do they say spill me the soup pipe and hot soup what did the gen zers say no i'm just fucking with you they say rad yeah cool cool dope tubular tubular that's us

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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I feel like massage porn's a little bit weirder than a girl with some tan lines.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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But they also have everything. They have a lot of accessories. They have beauty. They have shoes. They have loungewear. They have sweats. They have active wear. Like they truly have everything. I got into like a spring cleaning. I cleaned out a bunch of clothes. I gave a bunch to my mom and to my sisters. And I was like,

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Did you ask for a foot massage and that's how the toe ended up in her mouth? You freak.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Anyways, so they're sold out of massages. So I'm in a bad mood because it's pouring rain and there's no massages for the weekend. So I'm like, oh my God, like the whole weekend is just like ruined. It's ruined in my mind.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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believe i feel like you have entered like this whole new era of your life where it's like i don't even associate you anymore with too hot to handle or perfect match or like any of those shows like i feel like you've made such a name for yourself outside of those have you risen above the people who brought you down 100 and a big part of that was like moving away i moved to new york and i was like wow there are people here that don't care about this stuff like

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Well, I mean, I think we like went to on our first date, we like went to dinner like an hour after I had ever met him in person. And he was like, so like, I can kill you tonight.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Or the follow-up question is how many people know where you are right now? Literally.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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And yeah, I just think like... We can bleep this out, but are we talking about... Yes.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Yeah. Yeah, you would have had to wake up super early this morning.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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maybe like these days I wouldn't do it I did go to one I think it was only like a week like I don't think it was that long but I remember I called my mom every single like constantly and she was like honey stop calling me you're at camp make some friends leave me alone I am busy mom's having fun so good I love that I was like can I call my mom again like seriously you gotta stop get on the horse

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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I think it's you guys having a baby too, that it's just kind of like, how do you fully relax when you're like, I could be home and doing this. Yeah.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Who do you think brought the most drama? Because to me, Tony was overreacting. Brie and Louis, to me, looked like a showmance.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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It was like, I'm watching the baby monitor. I was like, my mom's trying to put her to sleep and I, she's like kind of fighting it and crying. And I'm like, should we just go? Let's just go home. Right. We should just put her to bed. We'll be home in 45 minutes. I can rock her. I'll put her to bed. Everything's fine.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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We're just being a nerd now and it's soft on TV. Can we pull up a couple more words? Can you spell philanthropist?

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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And so, yeah, we ended our staycation early and honestly, we had a great time last night being at home with our family. I have the craziest story to tell y'all though. Please. The other day, I leave the studio.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Was there any word in your head that you were like, please don't ask me?

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Don't ask me anything. Nick texted me one time and said, how do you spell S-H-E-C-K? No, not the sound out. And then he goes, like, stylish. I'm like, she?

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Did you know going into it that heights were going to be so heavily involved?

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Like it's not like perfect. We'll add heights to every single challenge for Georgia.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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It's pretty much like social currency. So it's like how people interact with you. They can see looking at you. I don't know.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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liked you are how many stars you have what your rating is and then it's like people will not associate with you if your ratings low you can get it marked for like not doing nice things you can't you won't be able to rent a car at a certain place or like if you don't have a rating oh my god like yeah I would not have been able to make it this far so you everyone like super fake and like

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Do you want it? Yes. Okay. And then that gives you like a mark up. But if you didn't, like they can be like mark you down.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Dude, you're so good at ignoring everyone that fucking hates you and talks so much shit about you. You're like so good at ignoring them. You're like, whoa, whoa.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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I wish I could be more like you and just like not care that people hate you. You know? It's crazy.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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You got to make this part of your love language now. Truly, he's got to. It ain't changing. He's got to.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Going back to the plank situation, you said that you almost had a panic attack. Because from our point, watching it back, it looked like more you were just trying to manipulate Chase.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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He acts like he's being sneaky, like I knew what he was doing the whole time. I have no idea where this is going.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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So he was like, what should we do? Should we, like... like a trip. And I was like, well, I already booked our staycation on my credit card. So I feel like I've already given a gift to us. And he was like, yeah, no, but like I paid for that too. And I was like, well, not really. Cause it was on my personal credit card. And so then he tried to take credit for that, which I wasn't allowing him to.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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I'll take mine if you tell me yours. Tell me yours first. Okay. The American Bar. I've not been there. Oh, my God. The American Bar. Go on Thursdays.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Okay, go on Thursdays. They have a special of bourbon chicken. Whereabouts is this? West Village. Oh, my God. Love West Village. Okay, I'm going. It's so good. They have an amazing martini. Oh, my God. They have an amazing Greek chopped salad. And they have an amazing bourbon chicken. What?

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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We need to get there earlier so we can get there in time to have dinner at American Bar for the bourbon chicken. And every time I'm there, and I'm like, please make this a staple on your menu. Please take it off of Thursdays.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Is it actually French? Is that why it's called French onion soup? Yeah, I guess.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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According to the internet, French onion soup is indeed from France.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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What about French fries? It was invented by none other than King Louie.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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And so he's like, what if we did like, I don't know. I'm like, is there like a purse you want?

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Is there a purse you want to see me in? Are you dying to see me in like,

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Do you, if I were to like give birth right here, right now, would you know exactly what to do? Or would you be like, no, exactly.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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You want YSL from head to toe? So then finally, I'm like, what if we found like a matching piece of jewelry?

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Whatever. And so it's like we could do like bracelets and necklace or ring. So I reach out to my friend at Real Fine Studio. She owns this really cute like boutique fine jewelry store. I got my like signet ring for River, the little birthstone for River from her. I was like, do you have anything? She sent me these rings.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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That is very true. There are all the same people everywhere you go.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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They have two diamonds on them, which immediately, as we all know, like things in twos have become very significant and special to us because of the miscarriages. So I was like, oh, that's so sweet. Like it's kind of like both of our babies that we lost within the year, the first year of us being married. So I was like, let's engrave April 27th, 2024 on the inside of the band.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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She's like, do you want to put River's birthstone in there? I'm like, no, she happened before the marriage. We're going to keep this strictly first year of marriage. Love her.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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I'm like, no. Yeah. Which someone did comment on our wedding video and be like, wearing a full length veil after fully birthing a child seems ironic. I'm like.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Okay, so you hate fashion? Sorry. Sorry. But anyway, so we got these rings, and they're very special, and they're very beautiful, and now we're matching. Beautiful. So, my crazy story. I'm leaving the studio, and we're about to head off for this weekend of events, so I was like, I need to go to the grocery store and get my mom and River fully stocked for the weekend.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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So I go to Whole Foods, pushing the cart around in the produce. I'm figuring out what – like planning all of River's meals in my heads. And then – in my heads, my multiple heads. And then I go to the meats, and I'm getting her some meat. And this man looks at me, and he goes, excuse me, were you just over there? And I was like, what?

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Yeah, he's like, were you just over there with all the fruit? And I was like, oh, yeah. What did you do? I was. And he was like, I just, sorry. I just felt like every time I looked up, I only saw you. And I was like, oh. And he was like, sorry if that's weird. And I was like, no, it's crazy.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Can I get a half a pound of beef? And so then I'm like, anyway, so I take my meat. I go down the baby aisle. I get some diapers. I get some snacks for River. And then I go down the next. I'm literally I'm going down each aisle. Right. And I go down the beans or whatever it is. And he's coming down. And so I'm like, ha ha. Hey, you know, like what a coincidence. See each other again. How funny.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

954.442

And I keep it moving. And he's like, as he's walking past me, he goes, next time I'm going to ask for your name. I was like, oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah. So then I go down the next aisle. He follows me down that aisle. And he's like, what a coincidence. Like, this is truly fate. Oh, no.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

971.28

He is a short European, like, French man, I would say. An accent, yes. I cannot do a French, so I won't be trying. But he's, like, late 30s, early 40s, probably.

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E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

982.41

Irrelevant, but yes. Short little French man. And so... He's like, what a coincidence. This is such fate. And I was like, oh, or you just like watched me go down this aisle and you followed me down here. But sure. And he goes, what is your name? I said, Natalie. And then he goes to write in his calendar with an H. I said, no, not with an H. The American way. He goes, and number?

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1001.229

Did you see Francesca Fargo and Jesse Sullivan had their twins?

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1008.898

Me too. Lockett and Key. Lockett. I was just guessing. I don't even really know them.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1016.686

Remember they were like hinting around names that they loved and Afternoon was on that list. Afternoon. They were like, I don't know if I want to share this because we might use it. So I don't know if I want to let you guys, but it's Afternoon. And all the comments were like, you know what?

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

103.265

So like I don't want to pick her up from school and people be like, oh my gosh, is this like the mistress?

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1032.24

We aren't interested. I never know if those are real or not, like if they're being serious. Lockett? Well, Afternoon is insane, but I think Lockett is... Poetry and Lockett are sweet. Yeah. I don't know about... Well, you know, they're babies.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1045.69

I always just try to think of like nicknames. Like what are they going to... Lock and Poe.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1064.431

You're going through a breakup, you're like, I wrote you a poem. Just leave me alone.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1068.412

I will say watching her, like, it's just making me want another. I want to, like, be back in the newborn bliss. I did see you post about that recently.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

109.488

Yikes. She also doesn't look like me at all. That kind of sounds fun, though.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1090.762

I think four. And then you were like, we'll push a fifth out if we need it. We'll see if the fifth comes later.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1095.425

Yeah, I think, you know, we'll definitely see how the second goes around, second round. But I definitely want a lot, I think. And I'd love to adopt some. I'd love to, like, foster some.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1119.984

We'll see. Okay. We'll see. But I am, like, every time someone has a baby, I'm like, I could do that again. Wow.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1128.723

I mean, I don't really know Jelly Roll. The transition was insane, by the way.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1142.832

And I like his vibe, too. I like his vibe. I've never heard it, but I went to a Charlie XCX concert. Oh.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1151.038

It was sweat. And Troy is also fantastic. I felt like, well, like an old fart there. Everyone was jumping. You don't want to jump?

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1166.357

No, but I mean, it was fantastic. I don't care. That's not. That's not, Charlie.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1178.762

Just go ahead and apologize real quick. Yeah, thank you. Just a real quick apology.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

118.256

I do. In what part of her? Like her feet or something? Can you scrunch your nose a little bit?

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1182.424

Wait, no. What song are we singing? I don't care. I love it. You're lying. She did like a remix of that?

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1206.367

You just put me on. I'm not hearing sorry from you guys. Wow, I am sorry. No, we are.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1212.014

Oh, the more you know. Well, apparently he asked that question because Jelly Roll reveals in a new interview with Pat McAfee that Charli XCX and her team allegedly manufactured 40,000 album sales in an attempt to secure the number one spot on Billboard 200. Okay, that makes sense.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1230.014

Luminate later dismissed the sales, awarding Jelly Roll the number one spot on Billboard 200 with 161,000.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1243.226

Yeah. Shut up. He's like, so she faked that and it's actually supposed to be me.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1250.349

Yeah, I feel like she had those numbers. Like that she had to cheat. Yeah, exactly. But also I know that he has a very like big dedicated fan base. Like people love him.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1259.494

And a lot of his songs have been like really popping off lately. But haven't heard a single one.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1265.937

They did ask me to go to his concert like three times. I was like, I'm good. Three times? Well, I like to give other people the spot, like if they actually know the music.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1278.627

What? Or was it Beyonce? Huh? One of the two. I was like, you know what? I think it was Taylor Swift.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1291.058

Allegations. It's just allegedly. Allegedly. Erica hates Taylor Swift. Allegedly. Allegedly. That's online. That's a rumor. That's a rumor. Let's move on, guys. It's all music based. It's all music based.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

130.867

I don't think she looks anything like me, but it is nice when people lie and say that she does.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1306.246

I don't think she's dating someone new. I think she's having fun. She just posted a TikTok of like her... It's like New York City sunsets. And she's like cozying up with a new man who's got like his arms around her. They're giggling. They're laughing. And someone was like, that was fast. And she responded like, well, I was being cheated on the whole time. So...

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1326.553

is it really fast doesn't she have a history like all good for her she does have a history though she says it that she like jumps from yeah like very fast she's a relationship girl yeah i believe the line was like she like basically gets into the new relationship while in that Oh, that was allegedly.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1343.433

I think she said it. If I'm making that wrong, I'm completely wrong. Oh, it was a podcast with Theo Vaughn. Yeah, I think she.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1349.915

And she was like, overlap. She was like, it overlaps. My relationships overlap. Yeah, I like her too.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1358.098

and so that was the avant he's like that is cheating he's like i call it overlapping yeah exactly that's that's exactly the clip i heard i'm glad i didn't make that up because that's a real clip that exists that is a real clip that exists exactly she's super cool i didn't this whole situation she's lovely yeah this whole situation is i can't believe that man thinks he is who he is because that is crazy i mean hasn't said a word just as posting like yeah i don't how tall is he

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

137.873

Do you think she looks more like me than she does Nick's dad?

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1386.594

Whatever it says on the internet, take two inches. I was going to say. What does it say on the internet? Take two inches. How tall are you? I'm 5'8". No shoes. Rude.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1401.068

Scott is a secure... Yeah, I have no problem saying that. Sexy man. But if I was famous on the internet, that's 5'10. Easy. 5'10.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1415.016

He's 5'7 for sure. That's the only respect I got for him. You added three. I'm going to add it up a little bit. Okay.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1420.44

You got to do what you got to do. You're taller than Zach Bryan. I believe so. With my whole heart. Give me some cowboy boots next to Zach Bryan on instant cowboy boots. That's just a little heel. I bet you I'm up on them.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1431.303

Does he wear boots? He doesn't consider himself country, so I don't know if he wears boots. He finds it very offensive to call him country.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1438.105

Wow. Okay, well, he's wack and he's corny. He gives short energy. He does.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1443.866

She did recently say that she was kind of throwing out the idea of maybe posting a video that she has of him abusing her.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1458.953

It was because she was upset because he kept posting about the cat that he took. He took the animals and whatnot. She was like, post my cat one more time and I'll post abuse. side swiping something at my face.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1478.046

So he has never posted this cat ever once before. Not once has he posted this cat. He has a cat and a dog, the brown Labrador that he posts all the time. And I guess they got this cat together, whatever.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

148.945

I think. But she looks like you. I think she looks like you.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1494.5

And he has the cat. And now all of a sudden, all of a sudden, this cat is all over social media.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1500.003

They always do that. The second that she's like, I miss my cat. It's like an abuse thing. Yeah.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1507.447

That poor cat. Because you know, I was like, get the fuck away from me. That cat has seen some shit. The camera's not around you. That cat has been seeing some shit.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1520.217

And free the video. Put him on blast. You know what I'm saying?

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1522.62

Honestly, if that's going to help her, I just, I worry for her. Put it all out there.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1527.566

I also feel like so many people are still doubting her and she's at a point where she's like, I don't give a fuck anymore. Like, here is everything. Yeah.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

153.226

Yeah. She will. Eventually, hopefully, at some point in her life.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1535.876

all that shit makes so much sense too it does like i don't think anyone heard it was like put it all out there instead of just teasing she is right like she kind of is yeah kind of but not just not actually not videos which you got to get them out yikes well a lot of people do have her back regardless yeah which is so cool i think yeah it was good to see the support like dave and honestly really all you really need is dave yeah like when dave partner's got your back you're

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1561.314

As soon as he gets that Ace of Spades bottle engraved, it's over. Yeah. It's over. Once he got that name on that bottle, it's over.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1569.462

Yeah, enemies, basically. It's mostly towards journalists who go against Barstool or something like that, like Deadspin and a couple other. So when they get fired or the company gets bought out or it goes in bankruptcy, he'll pop the bottle. That's funny. There's a couple people, personal connections he does it with.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

157.807

She still has a lot to grow. She has a lot of growing to do. Evolving. She'll change. Yeah.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1591.085

I didn't. I feel like you typically do. I typically do. And I heard that this season was entertaining. Yeah, it was. I think I started. I don't know why I'm yelling. I think I started. I think I watched the first like two episodes. But the first half of the show, like the dating thing, is so boring and dragged out sometimes. So I think that's why I gave up. I should have kept going.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1614.984

I heard it's good. Any tea? Any drama? Do you saw Britney? If you watch the beginning, she was with the art dealer.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1623.951

She was at a like Mod Sun show and he was like, is that the love is blind girls? And like called him out. And then they were seen, like, leaving a restaurant, like, cozy, like, talking to cameras.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

163.888

When there's hair dye out there. Right. And contact lenses. Right. oh i forgot the eyes yeah i love her the way she is brown hair you think not blonde he's like as soon as it's giving nick as soon as it gets wet it gets dark it's getting it yeah it's like as soon as you put a wig on her it's dark right then brown Yeah, it's all right.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1644.263

Wait, and were they not, did they not end up coupling together?

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1763.718

or like or would you be like okay i don't think it would intrigue me i think it would kind of like feel like it doesn't it would kind of push me away a little bit just because i'm like it's such a big personality people like associate them and then maybe i'm just this normal we don't get hyped up by our exes yeah yeah do you guys i feel like y'all sometimes get a little excited about their previous roster

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1792.444

Definitely not. I mean, not impressed, but we investigate for sure. We're definitely FBI agents in Nancy Drew.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1816.836

I think maybe on that side. I don't know if it's like impressive. I think I just investigate.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1840.867

Yeah, I mean. If it's like, who was that about? Now I'm thinking, because I'm like, no, not at all.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

189.26

Well, Scott and Erica did come over last night after four other people canceled on them. They showed up at our front door, thank God. And we ordered so much Chinese food and played.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1903.657

Okay. Wow. So I know who she is. Yes. Yep. Yikes. Yeah. She's the fuck boy.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

1909.481

Yeah. So is she like the big, she's the big topic this season?

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

2008.611

There's like Instagram posts of him like August 9th. Yeah, the kid does have a birthday. Yeah, you can't make that up.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

201.869

Yeah. Nick was going to just have Cocoa Pebbles for supper. He was like, I got the family style box for myself.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

2066.317

But also, it is her husband, or I guess soon to be ex-husband, who she was cheating on. So it's like... Well, why would he be comforting her? Yeah, they seem to be, like, fine together.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

2083.278

I think we can... Let's see. The horse trainer's a unique pick. I always... I kind of get the personal trainer thing. You guys are like, you know, but... Yeah. You see a guy, like, training a horse, and you're like, that's the one. It's just a little...

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

2094.591

I guess it's just the time you spend with them. I don't know.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

2097.614

The tennis instructor, the personal trainer, makes more sense than the horse trainer.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

2105.06

Oh, and Cassie. Oh, Cassie also. Cassie with Diddy. They had a kid, her personal trainer. It was her personal trainer. I love that relationship, by the way.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

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Yeah. I think it's just a closer relation where if like you are looking to cheat, it's like, you know.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

2121.668

The horse trainer in the state. We're all in here. Might as well stick it in. He's brushing a horse and it smells like horse shit. It's like literally like, what are we doing?

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

2146.257

You don't think, like, what if her dad got in the car and was like, get this off. The cougar.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

2191.463

gotta can't watch it on tv skip it but like right oh there it is public event you know obviously you're gonna be she's just standing on the side of the road with her luggage when he's like kissing her he's kissing the side of her head oh so that's her like moving out yeah this is like they're trying to pack just one bag that's it yeah she's not gonna be gone for long i'll be back

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

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She's got a saddle in there. Just one big saddle and some boots.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

2224.609

One big saddle and some stirrups. And cheese, you know. Oh, my God.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

2251.678

yeah the the missing the your son your kids son daughters the birth like yeah that's wild oh i mean you can't come back from that you can't that's a choice it's like you chose like whether they have an open relationship or not it's like you chose that over your yeah and even if it's like no i gotta go train this horse it's like no you i'm like your kid's being born she definitely could have sat this one out no cheating who teddy

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

2291.289

Did they place? Why was she there? Why did she have to be there? Is the horse that good?

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

2298.031

The day that all of this came out, the day after she posted a video saying, well, at least like my horse won third place or something. So she was still following it the day after.

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E843 - Mike Tyson v Jake Paul w/ Erika and Scott, Golden Bachelorette w/ Joan and Chock, RHOSLC, & RHOC

231.654

Oh, you did too, right? Well, you won a game. Yeah. You won a round.

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Out of how many, though? Yeah, how many horses are there? Five, or was there hundreds? Right, right, because then that would matter.

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Well, actually, you might have actually won the whole thing. I should have tallied up all the numbers.

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yikes heard a little bit about this really wild man hindsight 50 50 that is the funniest thing like 127 she's like you know 127 in hindsight you know i would still maybe do it again half yeah half i would half i wouldn't that's what she just said instead of being like i would never what happened well it's all about hindsight it's 50 50 like which story do you want to hear

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That's awful. Yeah. When stuff like that happens. Has that ever happened to you?

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Yeah, right. I would have the craziest stuff come out. Where'd you even get those pictures? Just his bare ass. Yeah, like, what the hell? You're Scott Pooping. No, I have some. I'll do it again. I don't care. I'll do it again.

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I said Nutrafol. And I was like, listen, Nutrafol, it truly is magic. It works so well. I've used it for years and I will continue to use it because I truly do see the difference. And I see the difference when I don't use it. And it is jarring. There is a lot of hair in the shower when I am not using Nutrafol.

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And then I used the postpartum one for after I was pregnant to kind of help navigate the postpartum hair shedding. And it changed the game for me.

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I actually was just talking to my mom. She's been in town and I got her on Nutrafol because she has been struggling with just like feeling like her hair was thick and growing and she felt confident about it. And she's on month four of taking Nutrafol and she is raving. She was like, I see the difference. I feel the difference. I love it.

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Oh, his legs were stiff. I was like, ooh, it looks like it hurts. It did. It looked like River when I was trying to get her to walk to you last night.

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Yeah, exactly. She was like, I don't know how to do this. We were like, Mike, you're just one foot in front of the other.

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One foot in front of the other. Yeah, that was sad. And then there's like, allegedly, this is probably fake. You never know the internet. But like the script that came out that was like, round one, this is what's going to happen. I didn't see that.

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Listen, I know you love more people, more the merrier, as Jones saying, I feel like. Right.

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So what I heard, I think as of this morning, was... Allegedly. Allegedly, of course, of course.

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What are you most excited about doing? Is it just sitting on the couch, watching Netflix? Is it traveling? Is it walking around on the street? What are we excited to do?

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We don't spread rumors about anyone except Jake Paul. All assumptions. But it was like Mike Tyson couldn't throw uppercuts the entire fight. And that's like his main power move. And then also, if it didn't get to at least round seven, I think Mike would make like one or two million compared to 20 if it went to all the rounds.

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Pascal recently did an interview and he kind of said like, you know, he thinks that Bachelor, especially for Golden, should be pulling from the same city. Obviously, y'all live in completely different states. You're now talking about, you know, getting this New York apartment to have somewhere to call home together. Do you agree with that?

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Is it is it hard, you know, being settled in your lives in two different states?

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That's just what the allegations are. So that makes more sense than the script. Just like you have to get the fight over.

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Yeah, that's true. You have to go all rounds and you'll get all your money. And I'm like, ugh.

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Exactly. And he's like, why wouldn't I just run around the ring and make 20?

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They do. I'm happy for them. They look happy. And getting an apartment in New York is so chic.

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Is this a pad where you're going to smash all the time? It feels a little intrusive.

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And I feel like since she is Rihanna's favorite, Rihanna will be tuning into this episode to learn more about her favorite housewife. We would hope so. So if you want to be like Rihanna, go and listen to the episode.

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Did you see him trip walking into the ring? No. Oh no, we missed the entrance.

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Wait, when they did that cut, I was so confused when it was like, oh, thank God John handled the problem for us and handled our women problems. It's all over. And they did the smash cut to credits.

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The Top Gun scene, yes. And the newlywed gang. Like, so cute. They are doing the Lord's work.

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But I do think it's funny when men try to get involved in women's drama and they think like, oh, yeah, like just OK. And it's done. Just just ask her point blank.

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And even Bronwyn said it during the episode. She was like, if everybody's husband is telling you that their wife is in the mud with your wife, maybe you have to admit that your wife is also in the mud. You know? It's this like, everybody, because he had that in his soundbite. He was like, Lisa can't even sneeze without everybody coming for her. And it's like,

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She has some accountability that she needs to be held responsible for, too.

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I'm hoping he picks and chooses his battles, but even at the end with the coach thing, and he was like, so you want to extend our time, be further away from our child for a 45-minute flight because of where you're sitting? And she was like, absolutely.

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I'm going to say common sense slowly and hope it's going to click. I do want him at some point to be like, Lisa, this is crazy. Come on. Let's not do this.

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Do you think there will ever come a day where John just goes, Lisa, shut the fuck up.

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I just wish at that table he would have been like, listen, my wife isn't perfect. None of us are.

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But it's like when someone says, you said that and that hurt my feelings, you can't be like, no, it didn't. Because how do you know it hurt their feelings?

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No, I'm just saying that's the equivalent. You wouldn't tell someone like, that's not true. I didn't hurt your feelings.

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and it's like okay well she thinks she's so misunderstood I do see that in a way it kind of reminds me of like when I will say like bitch to people and I'm not being like you bitch I'm like bitch and it's people you know some people don't you know I DMed Lala when we were or I texted Lala when we were at

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And I feel like if John were to have spoken up at any moment, that probably would have been the time for John to speak up and speak on his wife's behalf. Because I would imagine John is around for also some of those conversations, right? Maybe? Or does he work a lot? What is John?

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Yeah, which we did ask Bronwyn about. Ooh, guess you'll just have to wait and see.

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You should send those questions to Whitney, and Whitney should ask those. It would have been like Alibaba. Okay, well, do you own your distillery?

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We leave Palm Springs and go to Mary's house where she's checking up on her son and his wife, which I feel like we've got to stop with him. It feels very exploitive. It feels like he's very clearly under the influence in every scene we see him in.

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Yes, it was like she was going to hit it and he was like, do not hit that in front of my mother.

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And her hitting it in front of Mary and like pulling it her direction.

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It does make me feel sad because I'm like, he hasn't really been on the show. So part of me feels like Mary is just so desperate for him to have some sort of like wake up call or see himself on the show and maybe have some sort of realization because I can't imagine any other reason why she would put her son in that state.

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Is it the place to be concerned for your son on a national TV show where you're giving the world the opportunity to comment on him? It's not.

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Right. Well, going through the checklist of what you've done today. I mean, she also seems like she's not fully.

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So it's just that it makes me sad because and maybe it's like she's doing this so that he can watch it back and see how he is. But it's also I don't think he is watching the show. I think she's just desperate.

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I think she doesn't know how to connect with not desperate for the storyline.

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And even then you don't know who's going to reach out after seeing that and be like, OK, like this is maybe symptoms of what I think he might be doing or something, maybe to move into a direction of getting help.

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Back at Palm Springs, we see that Bronwyn does in fact get her $4 million necklace.

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Was it five? No, it was $4 million. $4 million necklace. Five at that point. And the earrings. So pretty much five. And they sit down for their anniversary dinner and it is like the weirdest vibe. It starts off like with these weird jokes.

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Bronwyn caused their relationship like miserable but beautiful and it's like oh okay and they have a lot of jokes about like money and the black card and I don't know she's almost teasing the sugar baby like storyline that Heather was perpetuating but like like she's giving fuel to the fire even though like it's not a sugar baby situation it seems to me that her and Todd have like a like Bronwyn sense of she's like pretty dry and

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And I think her and Todd are just like both two really like dry people. And so I feel like she's fully joking.

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I think so, too. I just don't think it came off to the other people at the table like that. I think they were kind of like, because didn't Meredith say?

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Objection, isn't it? They say I object or is it just like objection speculation?

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He's watching like Maury or, you know, like Judge Judy. And then we get into this whole Meredith and Sean of it all.

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Yes, which I wish Angie would have spoken up and been like, you know what? We just had this whole thing where Lisa came for me about Elektra. I'm going to shut this down like he you know, he should not have spoken about your son. It's like she just got so pissed off because Electra was thrown into the mix.

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And it's like and now you're going to sit by and like let your husband fend for himself against Meredith when like he clearly was in the wrong.

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It's just like a complicated argument because Meredith is obviously coming from this at a point where like the whole like Jen and Brooks beef where Jen was literally starting beef with a child.

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So she's very, very protective of him. But then Meredith also did kind of squirming around call.

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Jen and Brooks had to have a sit down. Jen was literally beefing with a full child.

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And I could be fully wrong here and I could be playing devil's advocate, but I'm like, I'm wondering if what Sean is saying isn't so much that he thinks he was saying something bad about Brooks in the sense of like, saying what Meredith did involving Brooks, but not actually speaking about her son. He didn't say anything disparaging against Brooks.

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Brooks is mentioned in the sense of, you're using your son after calling me gay and being okay with ruining my marriage. You're now saying because you have an LGBTQ son that you couldn't be culpable for...

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I completely agree with you. But on the Meredith technicality, she didn't say that.

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She's never left holding a smoking gun. That's just that's how Meredith is. But I mean, there are tracks that if you really looked up, there's a little bit of evidence that like Meredith had her hand in shit.

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I mean, yeah, but it's the performance. You got to watch it. It's the outfit. It's the performance. It's everything.

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And she has her like inflection with like how she it's the way she says. Yeah.

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And she's just so incredible in the way that she speaks and her cadence.

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So badly. It was less disrespectful and more just like, what year is it? Yeah. Yeah. And just call me a bitch. Just call him a bitch. Like, are you going to go home and watch an episode of Glee?

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If we wanted to just listen to it, we'd probably just put her on the Alexa. You know? It's true. Yeah, partition.

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like no one's talking about you right now it was kind of cute though i was like okay you guys have like marriage issues episode before and now you're like backing up your wife with proof it's also like seth has said before that he tries to publicly make a fool of himself in order for meredith to like look better look better so i don't know

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well mission accomplished does it make her does it make her look better well this was different it was when meredith was having like death in her family and she was like going through a lot this was like in gen was there's just all the gen like fbi stuff going on and seth had said i think he said in the reunion that he purposefully made a fool of himself in order to like take attention away from meredith like struggling anyway yeah i don't know if that's relating to now

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book Meredith did say in the after show and this when people do this it irritates me she was like well the biatch was comedic it was funny it was comedy and I'm like to me that doesn't work like you can't just say something wasn't rude by saying it's comedy but also she didn't react in that way if she would have been like you know she should have been like oh my god he's joking like it's funny in the moment but in the moment in the moment she's like well he's defending me you're coming it's like which one is it were you serious or was it funny

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It's only a joke if it lands, and it didn't land. So, bomb.com.

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It does end with Lisa having the biggest hissy fit about having to sit in coach.

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But even what Bronwyn said in the after show that it's like if you have all of this access, you have all of this money, apparently the rumors going around that Lisa's saying she has more money than Bronwyn and Todd, that it's like, okay, then call up somebody and get a private jet here or get a helicopter or do whatever you rich people do if you're so upset about your coach flight.

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I mean, he looked exhausted. I knew he was going to take it easy on him, like from the jump. I called it before the thing. I was like, it's going to go every round and no one's going to get knocked out.

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If anything, you keep it discreet. You're like, okay, thanks for the accommodation.

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Did you see Lisa posted on Instagram a walkthrough of her PJ?

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it was like I mean I don't know if it's hers personally but she had like got a PJ and climbed up well and it's funny too she gave like a little tour of a plane that's not hers it's like her walking up the stairs sitting in the seat like well so the after show aired before she posted this video Jesus Lisa that's how we know you don't have one yeah like I'm sorry like and I'm not trying to be a bitch but I'm just like the like needing to show it off and it's like you've been on the show for four five seasons and I've never seen your PJ she gave a new money mama thank you yeah I was and we all know like if she had one

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Okay, that I could get behind. If she did that, I would be like, Lisa Barlow, you've never done anything wrong in your life.

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Turbulence, like you feel like you only feel turbulence in one end. Doesn't it shake the whole plane? No, what that says to me is that you're usually a little tipsy, Lisa, from the three drinks in the front that you don't feel the turbulence. It also was like, what, a 45 minute flight? Yes. Like you go up and then you land.

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That was the part that really got me is the fact that it was a 45 minute flight.

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It's like pitch a fit if we're going across the country, you know, like from L.A. to New York. Pitch a fit. Sure. I guess five hours, whatever. 45 minutes.

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You're mad, but you want to fly an extra 30 minutes back to L.A. to wait in L.A. Oh, my God. To wait for a first class flight for an hour flight. Maybe 55 minute flight from LA to Salt Lake.

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Also, she got 17C, right? She's not in the back of the plane. 17C, that's an aisle? Is it an aisle or a window? That is an aisle. She's fine.

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Not even his legs. What did you think of the biting fixation?

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I feel like in that moment, Heather would have been like, bitch, get on this plane.

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Well, allegedly, I saw some TikTok saying that that was kind of like a warning. Apparently, they had just like a pact that when he would bite his glove, that that would indicate, you know, slow down to Jake Paul.

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Also, Bronwyn posted that she had actually gotten the second set of first class tickets for the two single women that were supposed to be coming. So Brittany and Heather were both invited on this trip, but she refunded the tickets. But I don't know who she gave the first the other first class tickets to, but.

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That's right. That's what she did say. And it would have been favoritism. But like, I think it is kind of interesting that she also did think if she was going to give anybody first class, she would have given it to Heather.

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Yeah, when Heather and Meredith are around each other, it's actually, like, pretty chill normally.

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Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. That he was like, I'm tired. Allegations.

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before alexis does come out we get a little bit of the heather checking out jen's the the money the dress the yeah the whole like i think andy called them non-accountants or something something like that well and then who is it called heather a mean girl which katie katie shocker what does katie's deal with heather i don't

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Well, Heather just came for her about the children and the 10 years ago whole thing. So Katie's probably like, fuck this bitch.

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I am on TikTok for a long time. So yeah, that was a TikTok. You mean civilization.

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But also, remember, Heather had the audacity to put her on blast and then come up to her while they're doing makeup being like, I'm so sorry about that. If you need anything, I didn't mean for it to go.

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In the last reunion, after she puts out that whole chase, Heather, when Heather puts out all the stuff about Katie, about the 10 years ago following that man home, the stuff we didn't need to hear about to begin with. Did Heather or Emily do that? Heather. Emily was about the giving up custody. Yeah.

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when they finish that segment and Katie's clearly in tears Heather walks up to her while they're resetting and she's like I'm sorry that it went that far like that I brought this up but it's like you didn't have to bring it up at all no no no she but I do kind of respect Heather in that moment because she apologized for not knowing about like the full context yeah I feel like she didn't realize what she brought up

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You brought up something from 10 years ago. Like, sorry, that's fucked up.

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paparazzis versus like her with her children in a car getting like harassed by a man and then like her children being taken away from her. That's a lot different than being like you staged a paparazzi shoot at Disney while you were currently on that show.

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Yeah. But then it does feel like Katie is really trying to like get the heat back

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on Heather because she was like that's a mean girl thing to do to go up and check the price tag like that's a mean girl thing to do and Heather's like shut the fuck up no it's not and then they break for lunch and Katie's like Jen we need to talk she's like that was a mean girl thing to do like that like her I would never do that I think you should like bring it is a mean girl thing is it not

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So the only actual boxer he's fought and he's lost. He's lost. Like, his age, his size. Yeah. You know? Everyone else is a UFC fighter.

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I mean, like you have power. She has power. She's doing this all by choice.

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It's also like you just all you have to do is you're not like, hey, you can't. I'm controlling what you post on social media. It's like what you post will affect my relationship with these women and will like therefore have people online attack me. So it's like you're protecting our family by not going on social media and being petty against these women. Like this is my job.

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Well, it's like, they don't want to bring the children in. They don't want to bring the husbands in. But then what is the show about? Children and husbands. So, like, it's funny.

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I just feel like they're on an ever-revolving same loop of things to say over and over and over again. They say the same thing for each other twice.

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to each other about each other it's just like we have people on who i might not be like the biggest fans of and then you meet them and you're like oh my god they're so kind and nice and like maybe this is not you know like we always say we reserve the right to be wrong like maybe we've been wrong about them you know and i just feel like i won't be able to be like a nice unbiased host but see here's the thing we have to do that but have the bffr conversation with her

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She's like, he asked me to send those messages. I didn't want... It's like, they came from your phone. You texted them.

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Well, it would just be the same story again, right? And I don't think anybody gives a shit.

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Alexis is a friend of... I'm just saying, it's potentially a game of chicken.

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I mean, Tamara's been there longer. Oh, has she? But, I mean... I mean, she was paused. I don't know how many times... Yeah, I don't know how that one works.

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Wait, also, I didn't know he had like a docu-series too leading up to the fight.

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I have a question. Is it is it valid for right before you start therapy to just like absolutely wreck everyone so then you can like like almost like a last.

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Yeah. Yeah. She's like when we get it all out let me say all these awful things and then I will go to therapy. Well you know therapy doesn't

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She's approaching therapy as if like, I'm going to go in and I will be fixed immediately.

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Yeah. And hey, if it works out for her and helps her and makes her feel better and helps her communicate and all that kind of stuff, Godspeed.

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I'll have to watch it though. Yeah, the Mike Tyson part was interesting because it was like him going back to Brooklyn and him like... So cool. Training? Yeah, training and playing old clips of him and then Jake.

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No, I respected it, too, because she's like, yeah, let me just say to you what we're all saying behind your back. And then it's all clear.

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okay yeah i mean you got the first letter all right i don't honestly realize you haven't taken his last name yet i haven't done i know yours erica a lot of paperwork it's a lot of people did you yeah yeah yeah i love that yeah i love that what was the question sorry what she he thought i said i said i know your last name and he goes oh no middle name i said over there smart going over there too smart

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All I know is that she said that he wouldn't really talk to her, didn't spend time with her, and now since the divorce, it's that tenfold, so... Well, it is giving right now.

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Which all the women were like, you don't speak ill of him at all. We wish, honestly, that you would speak.

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She does speak respect. I mean, it is her kid's father, so I think she does recognize that and respect him. She's only saying he doesn't pay what he's supposed to court order to pay, which him being a lawyer is really bizarre.

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I also will say I loved when Andy told Shannon to not say whatever she said to get sued the first time because he was like, you'll get sued again. She's like, no, I won. He's like, oh, you won?

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But I just like Andy like protecting them legally, you know? Yeah.

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Yeah, it's like Mike Tyson's getting shot at and then YouTube comments being like, we hate you.

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Did you hear that Gypsy Rose, our good friend, obviously. Yeah, your best friend. Yeah, known her for years. She released paternity tests to shut everyone up. Particularly you two. I hear you've been talking a lot. And she also announced... I'm sorry about that, Gypsy. She also re-announced her baby's name because she did say it on this podcast.

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It's just like people are like, oh, and she finally announced. And it was like, well, on here, she was like, we're thinking of Aurora.

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That was a tongue twister. Nick cannot speak. Oh, Struggles. Okay. It was kind of a... So did she give birth yet?

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Oh, because that's today. That is today. That is today. Nick is, yeah. You can say it.

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No bias that our friend was in it. Did you watch it when Nick was on it?

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Oh, did you watch it in advance? I watched it. Oh, sick. That's great. Okay, so ruin everything. No, no.

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It's also so funny to watch someone explain like why normal people should know who they are. Yeah. You know, it's like if someone comes up to you and they're like, why should I know you? Are you famous? Like you have to then explain. That's always one of the connections.

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Well, I did on Instagram. I feel like that's. That's legal. That's enough. That's legal. There's a lot of people.

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And what would you say? Yeah, and what would you say? The sister of the cousin and then the brother of that, I'm related to that side of the. Do you feel like you would say like,

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your tiktok famous yeah i mean it's the easiest thing it's just easy it's pathetic but it is it's the easiest way to describe it honestly do you then hand out your handle to like get them to i'd be like yeah but i'm working on it like i definitely i don't want to stay online forever i definitely want to act like that's the end goal um but you know i started and i'm super grateful super grateful where i am yeah it's a struggle she's done this before i've had to explain myself plenty of times

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Yeah. Whoa. Cam Newton. Cam Newton, another good football player.

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No, honestly. It's just so much paperwork. It's so much paperwork. But I do want to have the same last name as my daughter.

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Have we confirmed that Lisa hasn't said anything? She hasn't spoken out yet. Lisa, that's embarrassing.

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I mean, regardless, though, this is someone who is on some level of great power and influence when it comes to Vanderpump in general. She's obviously aware of all the behaviors that this cast is doing, both on and off camera. She is privy to a lot of the information that most people aren't. If all these rumors that you've talked about, like there's plenty of smoke.

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You're telling me that, like, what what is Lisa covering up? You know, like what at least have been protecting and hiding. And for her to have had James back this whole time and this come out and for Lisa Vanderpump not to say anything. It's been how many days?

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No, that's fucking PR. No, you read the police report. She was scared. You know what I'm saying? 100%, yeah. In these situations, there's clearly a triggering event where the abuser reacts and does his shit and gets fucking big and scary. And in that moment, like, that's... Like, she was scared.

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We could have said anything. The fact that they were called, it means like someone heard something where someone was scared for someone. There was legit worry. And then even to Natalie's point, time had passed and then it's still at an escalated level. Yeah.

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I hope that you you ruined your entire career, James. How do you. That's that. I mean, fuck, man. Peace. of shit. Here's a piece of shit.

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Yeah, it's just like, why bring it up if they're only going to get a misdemeanor? It almost feels like. It's like, then you have to, I don't know. Anyway, it's a very sad situation. Our hearts go out to Allie. We wish her nothing but the best. Yeah, we just want to support her and get her through this. And hopefully she chooses peace and happiness.

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what's going on everybody welcome back to another exciting episode of the vile files reality recap edition i am your host nick we got the household with us boy babe on a scale of one to ten did we have one of the most amazing weeks ever last week or like where would you put it on our where would you rank it in terms of top weeks we've had as a couple

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But the people around this fucking guy who are actually hanging out with him and know this guy who call him like a friend, like why, why is this, if this has been going on, you know, I think.

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But at this point, like, yeah, I'm just more, I don't know. There's this people part of this Vanderpump world who clearly have been looking the other way. Who know, James? I don't know how you get to any conclusion.

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And I think like, again, Lisa Vanderpump, like I went to Lisa Vanderpump's house once when I did her podcast a long time ago when she had a podcast for a second. And she was very gracious and very nice. And when I left, James came in. Like, I don't know. I think he was just like, they're very close. Like, Lisa looks after James.

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So the fact that she hasn't said anything matters and is a reflection on Lisa. It's embarrassing, Lisa. Do better.

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Not the same. We don't want to put him in the same bucket as James because there's a huge difference between anything ever that Tom has allegedly done or done compared to what James is being accused of. But Tom's girlfriend, Victoria, I believe her name is, posted the all-black Instagram story with some white font. She's venting to the internet.

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It's 6 a.m. Tom's not alive. Clearly not from having gotten up for a good night's sleep. No.

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He probably has a podcast to do today that he was staying up for.

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Which is very icky. It's very icky for your girlfriend to post something cryptic and for you to go on a live and then...

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refute it with the public that have no idea what's going on no he said something like she knows she like she like she knows she messed up she's in trouble I'm sorry what like I will never believe a word that comes out of Tom's mouth but again he's addressing this with us and before she could say anything else he goes online and says no no no no no It's my girlfriend's fault.

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yeah probably not yeah yeah I feel like I mean it would be reciprocated there's just honestly nothing else it would be reciprocated there's nothing else to talk to Tom Sandoval about at this point you know I just I you're not curious about his dynamic with his girlfriend no I don't give a fuck no yeah I really don't give a fuck I don't believe that oh wait don't they live together they do I don't know yeah does he still live in the house is he in the house

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It was really great. Well, as you guys know, we went to Kathy Hilton's Christmas party, which if honestly, if that is all we did, that would have been a great week because obviously we got to meet Mary. Well, yeah. And I felt like we met Mary earlier last year.

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I mean, honestly, though, when you're used to getting whatever they made every year, that is a lot of money.

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Maybe that's what they were fighting about. Maybe she was trying to give him sound legal advice. He's like, no, I got this.

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I mean, no, I've not seen them in San Diego. Are they in San Diego now?

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It's a class of teenage boys, if anything. We don't know. I'm sorry. Go ahead, please.

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Who knows? And we're not going to figure it out here. I think, listen, you're probably even surprised we're talking about this, because I imagine there's many other shows and podcasts out there that are Probably putting any type of political or whatever spin on this topic is most due.

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This is just a reminder here, people, that whenever the end of the world happens, and who knows, maybe it's because of these flying saucers in the sky, or maybe it's 100,000 years from now.

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Who knows? Every time there's like an end of the world movie, I was thinking about this last night with the drones. Maybe this is it. But honestly, if it is, what are we going to do about it?

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So let's listen to the show. Let's talk about the ultimatum. Let's talk about your favorite housewives. Let's just tune out. Honestly. This is your apocalypse soundtrack. Yes. Tune in now. Like when it's the end of the world, just listen to us. Because will there be a tomorrow? Will there not be? I don't know. But at least go out calm.

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Go out thinking about whether you're Team Broadway or Team Britney. You're not going to stop the asteroid, honestly.

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If the aliens are smart enough to be here with drones, what are we going to do about it?

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I just like there, you know, there's just so much fear brewing around in our world today. People just feeling fear here and there and telling you to be afraid of this and tell you to be afraid of that. We're here to tell you not to be afraid and just listen to us. Be not afraid. Because what are you going to do about it? Nothing. So just unplug, turn off your brain.

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anyways uh we'll get into obviously the drama that unfolded later that night at kathy hilton's party that uh we didn't know about regarding the what we now to know the piece of shit james kennedy what the fuck's his last name kennedy anyways so we'll get to that later then after said party we nally and i had to fly to new york for a interview that we're very excited to bring to you guys in the beginning of the year very cool very excited can't talk about it don't want to talk we're not gonna we could i mean we could talk about it we're not

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You're not going to die of cancer. You're going to die of the aliens. Exactly. So, like, what are you going to do about it?

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So, we're here to just. Whatever you're worrying about right now. Whatever got into your head today. Whatever seed was planted that told you to worry. I'm telling you to not to. Because we're here.

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Well, listen, listen, I think the point still stands. Why? Why enjoy your last remaining moments in this universe? Listening to people on a podcast telling you to be scared.

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Yeah. No. And these last remaining moments, you decide whether it was Rowan or Brittany who was right or wrong.

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Selena Gomez is not allowed to have taste during her engagement. She's not. Is she supposed to get something she doesn't like out of fear of making that thing mainstream?

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Let me get this straight. There's a bunch of ladies out there who are up in arms because they're upset that Selena Gomez took their super secret idea and made it popular.

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But for all the people who made it popular, it's like, here's a perfect example. We named our daughter River. You may or may not have heard that. And when we came up with River's name, we were like, oh, that's pretty cool. It's giving unique. It's giving original.

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One of the most popular names of the year, mostly for the boys. But my point being is it was already popular. We just didn't know about it. Turns out there were a lot of parents with babies cooking in the bellies being like, how about River? And they were like, great. You know what I'm saying? And now we all became aware it's popular.

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And this is just Selena Gomez getting engaged in all the super secret ring that everyone thinks. It's like, I'm the one who's getting this and no one's going to be talking about this. Turns out you all like the same shit. And Selena Gomez just made you aware. You're basic. Yeah. Turns out you're basic and you're not special. And let Selena live.

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You're among friends. You're not. You're you're you're basic. You're basic.

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to talk about it quite yet i'm very excited can i just say it's huge we can say can we just say it's huge it's big it's big it's big for we think it's big yeah it's it's the boat blocking the suez canal big yeah well like you know i don't know if you guys remember like last year we kicked off 2024 with a pretty big interview that of gypsy rose right out of prison right out of prison all i have to say is i'm dead you're not alive i'm not alive uh r.i.p justin

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You got the idea from another influencer that you forgot about because you saw it online. It was probably Selena Gomez and you just like blacked out and forgot and decided it was your original idea.

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I love that. Honestly, I saw that this morning. Chapel Roan did carpool karaoke with her parents. And my biggest takeaway is her dad's wearing a Patagonia fleece. It's giving Midwest basic dad love.

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How I'm pronouncing it is I start it because I think I know how it's said and then I just kind of mumble through the rest.

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Yeah. And Chappell's like, hey, dad, we're going to go do car karaoke. And he just grabbed the old reliable fleece, zipped it up, got in the car. He could go to Costco and fit right in.

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What's fucking crazy is the acknowledgement that these like for profit businesses that are have been created to discipline undisciplined children have not been regulated. That's fucking crazy. How are they allowed to like their private?

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I mean, a lot of things that are private are still regulated. You know, there are still rules and things you can't do anything that involves kids. That's fucking crazy.

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And when you think about it too, right? So you get these misbehaved kids, whatever you want to call it, you ship them off to this place. You're shipping off kids who are already quote unquote troublemakers, right?

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And we decided to go bigger this year. We decided to kick off 2025 even bigger than last year.

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And so I'm assuming when the kids come back and maybe report, you know, whatever actions that are going on behind closed doors, you would, you know, less likely to believe the troublemakers, so to speak. Oh, we're going to believe the people in authority and stuff like that. It's fucked. Good for Paris, man. Good for Paris.

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I mean, I think if you have 17 dirty diapers lying around, I think it's safe to say someone's not helping out.

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I think it's a real sad story about this guy. Obviously, it's a mental health issue.

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That does it for Household Endlines. We're getting into the ultimatum now. We have a great show lined up for you. We got Zaina from the ultimatum calling in in just a bit. Heidi Garner from SNL joins us as well to get into all things Bravo. She's a big Bravo fan.

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Plus, she's crushing life on SNL. I'm excited to have her on. Before we get to the rest of our show, just know that we have an excellent, exciting, amazing Going Deeper, the iconic, the one and only, Mary is geeking out. Yes. Meredith Marks is with us in studio tomorrow for Going Deeper. It's going to be an incredible episode. I don't even know what to expect.

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It's going to be great. Can't wait. What didn't we get to talk about on Household Headlines that we'll talk about on Pop Extra behind Vile Files Plus this week?

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That and so much more. That'll be on Friday on Pop Extra. All right.

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I don't. I was personally rooting for the Steelers. Yeah. They couldn't do it.

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He fit really nice into the strap-on carry-on. I just had Derek right on me. Just kind of carried him through. It was great to have. Do you know what I found out about Derek? Did you guys not know this? I hope I can share this. We can kick it out.

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I couldn't disagree. I think I think in terms of who's more dangerous, I think J.R. is more dangerous than Scotty. Scotty, like, he definitely is giving problematic and a little reactive, but he's also, like... Scotty reminds me of those guys, or, like, you know, even watching the show.

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It's just, like... I always try, especially when it comes to reality TV, because obviously we love to jump to conclusions and make, like, you know, really...

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sharp reactions but like it is reality tv everything's heightened when i see these moments i do like to remind myself that like at our worst we've all been these people versions of these people on we just have we've been manipulative we've been reactive you know when it's caught on we have if we're all being honest with ourselves we've all demonstrated certain behaviors that all of these people on these shows have demonstrated that being said

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Yeah, no, I think Scotty, Scotty reminds me of the guy who really wants to be a good, like, Scotty gives a shit about being a good boyfriend, but he's so reactive and so insecure.

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I feel like him and Aria got together because, like, and she mentioned this, like, she has, like, she's talked about bad boyfriends before Scotty.

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And it seems like she met Scotty at a time where she was like, fuck boy after fuck boy, situation ship after situation ship. And then here she met this guy who was very intentional and very much like, I'll show up. And like, Scotty reminds me of that guy who was just like, he thinks showing up is all that matters.

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And because he shows up so much that he's constantly here, he's constantly going to remind his partner what she's doing wrong.

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And it's just like, and I think what's so interesting about that relationship, I think Aria can't figure out why she's so miserable in this relationship because she's in a relationship with a guy who like, she's kind of told herself like he's, you know, so many green flags at first.

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He shows up and he's considered and he talks about doing this and he talks about being intentional, you know, and boyfriends before her were just like, you know, you know. I'll call you in a couple days. You know what I'm saying? So compared to that, she really liked that he was showing up.

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But everything that she does quote-unquote wrong in Scotty's eyes, he's always criticizing her under the guise of how to be a better partner. And we have to be better in this relationship. And he always centers the relationship as a way to guilt Aria.

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And I think she can't figure out why she's so miserable because he's quote-unquote saying the right things in terms of giving a shit about a relationship. But he's so fucking like... He just puts her down and constantly belittles her and tells her what she's doing wrong. You know what I'm saying?

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Tell us all of Derek's secrets. If you don't want this in your... Derek's dad is a 9-11 survivor. Derek's dad was working in the World Trade Tower.

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You've been in these relationships where it's just like, he says nobody cares because he cares about us and he cares about the relationship, but he's always just nitpicking and fucking just...

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I do think Scotty, though, to why I disagree with you is I think eventually he at least is willing to apologize. Scotty will apologize. I think I don't think at all.

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Maybe. I mean, JR just seems so disconnected and delusional. But you can clock that a lot easier.

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Yeah, Scotty always does that. It's, like, he doesn't... That's right, he does. He's, like... He's, like, yeah, I mean, I did that, but I did that because... blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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I guess I should get to know my employees better. Yeah, crazy. Anyway, so found that out spending time with Derek on the trip. But anyways, very cool interview. We did a real sit-down.

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I would take people quiet versus like, shut the hell up. Yeah, maybe. Something about JR just gives me weird problems. He has religious trauma.

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But to Natalie's point, it's like there's embracing the experience and there's being J.R. Yeah, Caleb took the experience seriously. I think that's what bothers me about J.R. so much compared to Sandy. Yeah, it's just... Maybe, like, Sandy's faking accountability. I don't know. But with J.R., it's just like he... He seems to believe his delusion about the seriousness of this experiment.

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With JR, he seems to have this blank look on his face where he seems to be incapable of understanding anyone's point of view but his. At least Sandy seems to be able to fake empathy.

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uh it was really cool uh we got to go to this person's place and uh i'm excited to we're excited to give it to you guys january 8th i think right the 8th that wednesday going deeper perfect you took my punchline i was gonna say did you go deeper oh we went so deep oh my god the deep the deepest Very excited. Anyways.

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I want to see what Nick's ex-girlfriends look like. Yeah. Because their relationship just gives Sandy's the hottest girl he's ever dated. And their relationship gives that both Nick and Sandy are on the same page. And that is that Sandy can do better than Nick and Nick's never done better than Sandy. That's how they both kind of operate this relationship.

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But she's also like their whole relationship is what Nick needs to do better. Their whole relationship is about Nick stepping up and proving his love to Sandy. Either we're missing something from editing or whatever, but Nick clearly seems to have his issues, but the amount of apologizing Nick has to do for whatever Sandy's doing, her ability to gaslight him... It is shocking.

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Like in a way that I've never, it's like, no matter what, it's just like, eventually he's apologizing for something she did.

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That's possible. But again, all we've seen this season is her figure out a way to blame him for her shit. So, like, I don't know what to trust in terms of what the relationship was prior to this experiment.

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Yeah. That seemed to be the only thing I'm referring to is his quote unquote behavior during the experiment when she was a floor above you sleeping in a bed with another fucking guy and like.

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Their last night, because also when they talk about how many kisses there were, they refer, they say the word.

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right yeah they use the word pack to describe a kiss so that tells me they're clocking each individual pack and if we're clocking each individual pack then their last night they kissed each other twice in a matter of 12 seconds yeah it was kiss and then she went in for another kiss there were so now we're they've kissed several times and we're to believe that they only kissed on camera

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I was. It wasn't easy for us. I think we missed River more than she missed us, for sure, when we showed up home. Thankfully, we had Grandma. Grandma's been with us. She's been with River much of her life from the beginning. Yeah, I was really proud of us.

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There's no ass. Even if they didn't. Let's give them the benefit of the doubt.

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They didn't have sex. You mean to tell me after all the rubbing up and all that stuff and the cameras. Wifey. And all the wifey talk.

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No, my understanding is, for whatever reason, they do that for the ultimatum, and for whatever reason, they don't do it for Love is Blind. Apparently, there's a reason. I don't agree with the reason, but that is a creative choice.

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Sandy's whole thing, like, I didn't tell you because I don't want to hurt you. I didn't tell you because you would be mad. I didn't tell you because of the way you reacted to it last time. Again, she's always blaming... It's always Nick's fault. But it's a common...

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That's not why... You didn't want to hurt yourself. They didn't want to feel guilty and they didn't want to be the bad guy and they didn't want to be in trouble.

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And that part where she's crying in bed and he's like, is it me or is it something else? I mean, Nick, trust your gut. But she's crying because she feels bad because she hates you and you give her the ick and she doesn't know how to tell you. My God, when he's this girl pair, Nick.

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I mean, when I say that, Nick, and I say that knowing that when I watch, 20-something-year-old me was that fucking guy who just thought I could just... I didn't have any backbone. Anyways, when he's like, I love you so much. She's disrespecting him so much. And all he can do is get on a knee and say how sorry and how much he loves her. That is not how you get someone to respect you.

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He's doing everything wrong. And I say that having done everything wrong in the past.

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There's got to be some self-hate to allow someone to treat you that way.

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I think Nick's convinced himself that he likes Sandy's personality and loves her heart. You know what I'm saying? I don't think he's aware that And again, who knows?

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We know so little about their actual relationship, but everything we're seeing about their relationship gives that like there's not a lot of respect going on there and that she acts like she's out of his league and he acts like he's out of her league.

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Let's bring her up. Let's give her. Yeah, let's get Zaina's thoughts and feelings on this whole. Yeah, let's go. Hi, how are you?

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Well, you're easily, you're my favorite person on this show by a mile. By a mile. You're great. And I see of people who are not. Anyways, how has this whole experience been for you?

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Yeah. Let's can we talk about all in for a second? Because I'm watching this whole show. The Nally references early before you jumped on when J.R. or anyone else on the show talks about how serious they're taking this experience or how all in they are. My problem as a viewer, I'm watching this and I'm like saying, great for taking, you know, you got to embrace the experience. I'm all for that.

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But like, where did you, I guess I'm curious, the conversations that you and J.R. had prior to going into this experiment? Because I'm thinking you should be able to embrace this experiment and get the most out of it that the experiment brings you and still be able to respect your partner that you came into the show with. The way JR talked about Sandy as if she was literally his wife.

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And I'm just curious for you, what were your expectations going into the show? And you seem like you embraced the experiment as well. At the same time, you were able to respect JR and yourself. How did you see it?

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Prepped for the interview. Thought, you know, I just stood there. Because I'm not much of a note taker. I just stare into the abyss.

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She said, what? She was doing you a favor, she said. When she was like wiggling her ass in the bed, just kind of giving him.

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I think what's so scary about JR, he's so calm and comfortable lying.

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Yep. On the plane. We took some edibles on the plane there. And Natalie popped up. She was like, I have a great question for this person. And this person, when she asked that question, you could tell.

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Back to JR, I just want to just empathize with your situation because it must be a challenge to be with this man who his whole backstory was about the fact that he was cheated on and how his ex-wife, how poorly she treated him. And he really paints himself as just trying to do good and have a warm heart and break his broken wings type of thing. It seems almost sinister, right?

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to have this guy kind of weaponize his own pain and then, you know, do onto others the exact type of stuff that he talks about being the victim of. It must be kind of hard to watch for you.

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They were like, that is a great question. And this is a very thoughtful person.

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Because I am curious, when Sandy says things like, you brought me on this show, I kind of roll my eyes. It's like, you're all adults. You all signed up. You all signed your own individual contract, I am sure. I don't doubt that there was one person in the relationship that brought maybe the opportunity to the other person. But to me, it just seems like a cop-out.

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It was as if Nick dragged Sandy here and she didn't want to... Like, you all wanted to be on TV. You know what I'm saying? Like, you all... We're aware of the benefits. Like, how do you see it as someone who gave the ultimatum and things like that? Am I being too hard on Sandy when it comes to that? Or do you see what I'm saying?

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Short of you being in sex work, I can't think of a one job. I can't think of a profession that you need to where people would be like, oh, I was going to work with them.

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interview ahead this will all make sense in the future yeah listen we're trying to support and pay for her college you know this is all part of the plan yeah we are yeah so anyways it was a it was a very exciting and then we came back and then we went to seth mcfarland's christmas party on saturday which was a lot of fun legendary uh ran into kristin doughty we did who you know and we talked to her about the obviously very unfortunate situation that is

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about everything knowing that it's going to affect your relationship the way that the whole apartment situation and cameras is set up would it be possible for them to hook up off camera and no one know well we didn't have cameras in our bedrooms so yeah and he shut that door a lot anything could happen like

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And it was right after the first batch, and he zoomed in, and he was quick to be like, I'm embarrassed.

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Yeah. So what's your read on Scotty? I don't know if he's just like a guy who's trying his best, but he just can't get out of his own way because he's too insecure.

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When did you leave? Was it how many days before the end of the trial marriage?

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I mean, I feel like that's kind of a big deal to need to leave days before you're supposed to because you don't want to be in the same room with them anymore. I feel like that wasn't really highlighted the way the way it was shown as it's like you left five minutes before you were supposed to guys night.

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Yeah, really fuck that guy, honestly. For those of you who don't know, James Kennedy was arrested for domestic violence. The police reports are very disturbing.

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First of all, also, who cares if you were talking to your boyfriend? Like, I'm just like, every time I watch these fucking shits, it's like, Jesus fucking Christ. Also, it just seemed kind of weird, given that, like, JR was very much giving, I'm looking for a hall pass. I'd love your opinion on that in a second.

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And I would have just loved Scotty when JR tried to, like, start some drama with Scotty. I wish Scotty would have just manned up and been like, yeah, bro, you're giving wanting a hall pass.

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So, like, I didn't say that, but, like, I would be more concerned about how you're operating in this scene rather than it would seem way easier for Scotty to come back and yell at you for something he had just made up in his head as opposed to just, like, confronting J.R. and man to man and just calling him out for his shitty behavior. Now, let's just go yell at the woman.

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Yeah, I've just been like the only right answer to J.R. I'm like, yeah, dude, you you look like you're trying to fuck everybody here.

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To hear that is crazy. It's like it's that JR prioritizing his hatred towards Nick, a man that he was tormenting because he was making moves on his girlfriend.

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And the fact that JR was able to convince himself that he was the victim in that situation so much so that he was so willing to disrespect his own girlfriend and a man who he was in bed with his girlfriend and act like he's the victim is wild behavior.

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Yeah. Well, we are glad that you made it out. And you look great.

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Thanks so much for your time. We wish you nothing but the best on your journey forward. Thanks for being someone that's been fun to root for.

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I'm happy to say I didn't like him from the beginning. Give me the ick.

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It makes you feel just connected. You know, I often will listen to River Nap while I'm on a run. I mean, have you ever...

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I'm excited. Okay. Oh, my God. How have you been? How was your weekend? What'd you do other than work?

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I don't know much about the law when it comes to this stuff, but how is the word battery and misdemeanor in the same sentence when it comes to domestic violence?

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When you have moments like that, that the audience does love so much, the powers that be, do they embrace it? Or do you sometimes, do you guys get a talking to afterwards where it's just like, how do you guys navigate the breaks versus like, not doing what you're not supposed to do type of thing.

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Yeah, physical injuries and what the victim is willing to- So you have to be successful in your being a piece of shit and beating your partner?

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Yeah. We love to ask our guests what they're passionate about. And one of the things you wrote about being passionate about is being an overstimulated adult.

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in order for it or the victim has to be like you know my life was threatened yeah which anyways i mean fuck james uh i just i don't know i mean and then we talked obviously we ran into kristin doty maybe i guess i've been living under a rock but i guess james has a history of this uh it seems to really have been brought to light since his arrest i think we've all kind of watched james have a bit of a reactive temper on tv you know we never want to jump to conclusions but

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When you are trying to unwind, are you watching a lot of Bravo and a lot of housewives?

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is it salt lake are you fully immersed are you caught up with salt lake yeah okay fully immersed yeah it's yeah it's the best housewives on television best show on television i know i had a friend who posted about it recently her name's carolina and she was like it's so good i'm taking notes and like she's like yeah she doesn't forget things like where do you land on brawin and britney in terms of new cast and how do you how do you feel about their kind of involvement in the new season

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I'm obsessed with her character on the show, if it's that. The only really hard part I have with her is, like, every once in a while we're reminded that, like, she just casually throws out that, like, yeah, my kids aren't speaking to me because of my...

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last thing and it's just like such an afterthought for her like her children not to be speaking with her and all i want for britney is for her to only care about is reconnecting with her kids and she seems way more interested in everything else jared osmond's instagram stories yeah yeah yeah like i also feel like the kids thing is something you could just so casually not bring up because you know

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Yeah, she could have been like, I don't want to talk about my kids, not just casually throwing out with a photo included of these are my kids. They don't know.

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And when did Sierra, you've been obviously watching Vanderpump and following the franchise for a long time. How long is this? Like James is like, I mean, so ever since his arrest, what, you know, paying attention to it, it seems like this there, my understanding after the arrest, there's been like whispers of this type of behavior with James for a long time.

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Is she trying to convince us that her and Jared haven't slept together? Is that actually a thing?

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It would be ironic. I think it is time. Have you caught up with Southern Charm?

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That's a good question. Like, what do you think their storyline is going to be this season? Because it really seems light on storyline so far. It's just like JT handing out canes and delusion.

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We got a bunch of little nothing burgers, little appetizers, a little bit of this, a little bit of that, but there's no main... We really counted on Taylor and Olivia last season to kind of...

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have you kept up with the the latest news on on some of its cast members that happened over the past week any thoughts a lot has happened right well yeah well we have james uh turns out total piece of shit yeah we ran into him that night yeah whoa we were at that party turns out yeah uh and then tom sandoval well did you hear about his the post from last night that drama

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Yeah, we actually don't even have... Do we have the update? Breaking news? Well, it's like an hour ago or something. Oh, yeah. Sadly, I think Tom Sandoval got to her.

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E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC

6463.461

She writes, I would like to sincerely apologize for my previous post. Yeah, Tom's standing over her. I had a true misjudgment in a situation. Okay. Tom did not do anything. From my own personal trauma and experience hearing false accusations about him all the time clouded my judgment and got the best of me. Please respect him and know he's actually being the most supportive partner.

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E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC

6488.462

The internet can be harsh and sometimes I'm learning about how to block out the noise.

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E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC

6751.462

That's a, that's a great story. And like, Oh, what a cool moment to like reflect back and think about, because like you said, it's just like when you told that whoever that customer was, like what you were doing, you know, there's probably a level of like, am I really doing this?

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E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC

6764.287

When you say it out loud, it almost, it's like, it's crazier when you sit in your head, you're like, I'm going to take a shot on myself. I'm going to bet on me, but you did it. Like you, you did it. And now you're where you're at. And it's such a, like a cool story for all the people out there who have like a dream or want to better themselves. And like, everyone tells them,

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E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC

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Because you tell your friends and everyone's like, yeah, sure, great. It's so scary to follow your dreams and it's so scary to take a risk. And I think a lot of people tell you to not try because they don't have the guts to try themselves. So for you to be able to do that and look back is a really cool story.

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E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC

6935.208

Any big plans for the holidays? What does Heidi do during the holiday season?

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E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC

7057.2

There's got to be a diptyque candle involved. At least make it flushable wipes.

The Viall Files

E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC

7079.573

You have here feeling feminine when work makes you feel masculine. What do you mean by that, Heidi? I'm curious.

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E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC

7155.885

but that surrender feels great any uh holiday like tips or tricks that you swear by that like you feel like you you everyone else is doing it wrong but you know it's like a a holiday life hack i do think as you get older maybe adults get over gifts a little bit like they're just kind of like well i can get what i want or yeah everyone can get what they want and no one really needs anything anymore

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E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC

720.279

Yeah, I mean, it's almost kind of embarrassing, I think. I mean, obviously, there's been a lot of pickup about our conversation that we had with Michael Rappaport. We saw James and Allie at Kathy's party. We talked to James and Allie. We talked to Allie a little bit more than James.

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E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC

7264.181

we don't we're not florists we're not florists we're just girls it's not yeah girls that want to be girls do you have a dream host that you've pitched that you just are hoping to get on not reality tv related just anyone in general that you're just really hoping eventually can host so that you can work with them or whether maybe it's because you like them or don't like them but whatever the reason do you have a dream guest oh yeah well i have a couple i mean not to be greedy because

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E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC

734.423

And then, obviously, I told that anecdotal story about seeing James walk past me and yell and demand his friend hold his drink, which I thought was shocking and a bit, like, odd to treat your quote-unquote friend that way. But now we come to find that maybe this behavior escalated later that night. But yeah, it's embarrassing because we talked with Michael about James.

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E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC

7535.66

Uh, Heidi, this has been so much fun. Thank you so much for taking the time on your very busy schedule. Uh, happy holidays. Enjoy Kansas city. Uh, I hope the Packers meet the chiefs in the, in the super bowl. Uh, that'd be great. You know, like a super bowl one rematch or something like that. You know, it'd be great. Super fun for us. Thank you for taking the time. We really appreciate it.

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E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC

755.993

And literally that night, I remember talking with James about like, wow, you really, you know, Vanderpump's over, but you really elevated your career. And James really gave, especially like ever since Scandival. And that was my introduction to Vanderpump. And obviously we've gone back and we've recap and yada yada. And we've become really big fans of the franchise and the show.

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E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC

77.051

Their wipes have zero harsh ingredients for a great, gentle clean.

The Viall Files

E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC

773.345

But James has really like taken Scandival and been like seemingly the one guy willing to like, quote unquote, do the work to grow up, to elevate himself and to learn from his mistakes. And, you know, that's as much for all the fun that we have on the show. That's something I think the show really talks about in terms of like, you know, listen, we we all fuck up.

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E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC

793.117

We all have to take accountability and apologize. And there's room for growth that we all want to grow. And I think there was a level of even talking to Michael, a level of like, you know, good for James, but like, fuck this guy.

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E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC

802.586

I mean, if this is like really who he is, I don't, and honestly, I don't give a, I don't give, I don't, I don't give a fuck if Jay, if I don't want, I don't want to hear substance abuse, blaming it on that. I don't, I don't care. This is a guy who's clearly had substance abuse problems. He has blamed his substance abuse on his reactive personality.

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E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC

819.742

He has chosen to go back to those substances and, you know, I don't you know, whether it's because of the substance abuse or the drinking or not. Clearly, this is a type of behavior that has been ongoing and recurring. And I don't I don't have any fucking patience for any guy who lays a hand on any woman, period, whatsoever. I like you picked her up and threw her on the ground.

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E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC

87.543

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E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC

914.252

Has Lisa Vanderpump said anything? Because I know Lisa has been a huge supporter of James.

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E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC

923.896

Lisa Vanderpump, you need to say something. You need to speak out. The fact that you haven't spoken out yet is embarrassing for you.

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E914 - Christina Hendricks, Erin & Abe Lichy, White Lotus Finale, RHOA, Summer House & Southern Charm

4765.283

I think Cynthia Bailey has said it the best way, where she was like, Kenya, this is like a lower version of you that I don't know. And like, that was wrong.

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E914 - Christina Hendricks, Erin & Abe Lichy, White Lotus Finale, RHOA, Summer House & Southern Charm

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Auch Shamia hat gesagt, dass wir alle diese Fotos und Videos gesehen haben, aber es ist so, dass du die zweite Zeit entscheidest, sie in der Gruppe oder auf dem Bildschirm zu bringen, ist wie ein weiterer Niveau. Ja.

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E914 - Christina Hendricks, Erin & Abe Lichy, White Lotus Finale, RHOA, Summer House & Southern Charm

5057.811

Ich denke, es ist ein Element von beidem, weil ich meine, sie hat sogar gesagt, dass sie nur diese Person für zwei Wochen bis jetzt wusste. Und die Empfehlung, die sie jetzt bekommt, ist, dass sie Karen ist, um potenziell wie Backlash auf sie. Und ich sage nicht, dass das eine Weise ist, es zu justifizieren.

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E914 - Christina Hendricks, Erin & Abe Lichy, White Lotus Finale, RHOA, Summer House & Southern Charm

5083.222

Well, she said she went to production and told it and nobody said anything and still she was being invited to events.

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E914 - Christina Hendricks, Erin & Abe Lichy, White Lotus Finale, RHOA, Summer House & Southern Charm

5091.465

I'm not saying it's right. I'm not justifying it, but I'm saying that there could be an element of feeling unsafe because they all acknowledged it. Untertitelung des ZDF, 2020

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E914 - Christina Hendricks, Erin & Abe Lichy, White Lotus Finale, RHOA, Summer House & Southern Charm

5961.817

Sie brachte mich auch in die Rucksäcke. Wir waren in den Straßen in New York und wir waren in der Zeit des Todes.

The Viall Files

E914 - Christina Hendricks, Erin & Abe Lichy, White Lotus Finale, RHOA, Summer House & Southern Charm

6491.013

You were sitting and you said she was giving me a little Demi Moore.

The Viall Files

E914 - Christina Hendricks, Erin & Abe Lichy, White Lotus Finale, RHOA, Summer House & Southern Charm

6739.621

Das ist das Ding mit dem Internet. Nichts geht weg. Du weißt, es ist wie... Definitiv, ich war so, sie ist schmutzig.

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E914 - Christina Hendricks, Erin & Abe Lichy, White Lotus Finale, RHOA, Summer House & Southern Charm

724.499

Aber ich meine, du könntest argumentierbar sagen, dass seine Musik White Lotus, was es für populär ist, gemacht hat. Er bezeichnet es als die Ululus, wo es ist, dass jeder die Ululus kennt, aber es ist so, dass er sich nicht respektiert fühlt.

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E914 - Christina Hendricks, Erin & Abe Lichy, White Lotus Finale, RHOA, Summer House & Southern Charm

7403.599

Did you get a chance to work with, you know, some of the cast that you didn't perform with on this project?

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E914 - Christina Hendricks, Erin & Abe Lichy, White Lotus Finale, RHOA, Summer House & Southern Charm

7941.457

It's interesting how timelines, because we kind of... Similar thing for you guys?

The Viall Files

E914 - Christina Hendricks, Erin & Abe Lichy, White Lotus Finale, RHOA, Summer House & Southern Charm

876.036

Habt ihr das Headline von Eric Conover gesehen, dem New York City Real Estate Agent? Ich bin überrascht mit dieser Geschichte. Er wird jetzt verhaftet. Er wird verhaftet mit einem gewaltigen Mord, nachdem er einen polizeilichen Polizisten mit seinem Auto getötet hat.

The Viall Files

E881 Ask Nick - My Body or My Boyfriend?

1397.751

I mean, it depends. A lot of the times it's not about physical attraction. It really is about the connection that you make with somebody and feeling safe with them. That I'm like being able to have open conversations and be genuinely interested in what they have to share and making jokes and just being lighthearted instead of having some putting so much pressure on it.

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E881 Ask Nick - My Body or My Boyfriend?

1414.205

I think that's why it's like women are attracted to more than just physical attributes because you meet a lot of attractive people with shitty personalities.

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E881 Ask Nick - My Body or My Boyfriend?

1996.581

go watch a game at a sports bar and strike up a conversation with other people watching?

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

578: The Quantum Apocalypse: All Your Secrets Revealed

1771.288

I played Polybius in Area 51. A secret code inside the Bible said I was. I love my UFOs and paranormal fun as well as music. So I'm singing like I should. But then another conspiracy theory becomes the truth, my friends. And it never ends. No, it never ends. I fear the crabcat got stuck inside Mel's hole with MKUltra being only too aware.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

578: The Quantum Apocalypse: All Your Secrets Revealed

1818.136

Did Stanley Kubrick fake the moon landing alone on a film set? Were the shadow people there? The Roswell aliens just fought the smiling man, I'm told. And his name was cold. I can't forget. On Thursday nights, Wednesday, J.J. And the white balls on my feet all through the night All I ever wanted was to just hear the truth So the white balls on my feet all through the night

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

578: The Quantum Apocalypse: All Your Secrets Revealed

1874.813

The Mothman sightings and the solar storm still come to have got the secret city underground. Mysterious number stations, planets surf old too. Project Stargate and where the Dark Watchers found. In a simulation, don't you worry though. The black knight said a lot, he told me so. I can't believe I'm dancing with the fish. Heck, no fish on Thursday nights when they chase you.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

578: The Quantum Apocalypse: All Your Secrets Revealed

1907.532

And the wild birds have been beat all through the night. All I ever wanted was to just hear the truth. So the wild birds have been beat all through the night. All through the night All I ever wanted was to just hear the truth So the world falls on its feet all through the night on the dance floor because she is a camel

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

10103.613

Like what kind of perks?

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

1085.188

Yeah, I'm with you.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

13117.859

Wait, what?

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

1478.496

Yeah, I don't get the whole dungeon thing at all.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

1481.858

And who could be comfortable in all that?

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

1492.116

I think we're talking about the same videos.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

1494.578

These are the ones where they pick a safe word, right?

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

1497.221

Peanut brittle.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

1562.06

they'll have what asmr folks call a braingasm no every time someone hits the like button i feel a tingling in my dorsal fin whoa oh boy someone just did it i felt that too oh baby okay ease up on the like button we don't want hecklefish to stroke out

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

16106.903

Remote viewing links below.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

16350.417

Tall white shootin' oops!

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

1684.484

Let me ask you something. Is it hard being so neurotic?

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

17228.199

He's a vampire!

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

17538.194

What's a theosophist?

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

17668.268

Belvedere martini. Shaken, not stirred. Pearl onions.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

18059.013

What about him meeting Jesus and all that?

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

18138.702

So do we know who he really was?

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

19088.718

I set out to find young Mr. Markham and I found him. Michael, are you there? Yeah.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

19495.792

So what, it's teleporting stuff?

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

210.996

Now, you're a character in that world and you think you have free will and say, I want to invent a computer. So you do. Hey, I want to create a world in my computer. And then that world creates a world in its computer. And then you have simulations all the way down.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

23303.672

You fell for it!

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

24170.388

Okay, buddy, squeezy animal, stop dying to us, totem doll toy.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

3896.369

Oh, baby Blorpis needs my hugs. Gotta go.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

4423.204

No, no, no, no. Look at it.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

4772.259

Everything OK?

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

5664.098

Now, now, I need you to listen very closely.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

654.549

So you're saying as you dig deeper. You find.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

587: MEGA COMPILATION: Dreams & Nightmares

7067.523

I told you so.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

576: Operation Eagle Flight: The Escape from Berlin to Bariloche

2295.461

I play Polybius in Area 51. A secret code inside the Bible said I was. I love my UFOs and paranormal fun as well as music. So I'm singing like I should. But then another conspiracy theory becomes the truth, my friends. And it never ends. No, it never ends. I fear the crab cat got stuck inside Mel's hole with MKUltra being only too aware.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

576: Operation Eagle Flight: The Escape from Berlin to Bariloche

2341.73

Did Stanley Kubrick fake the moon landing alone on a film set? Or were the shadow people there? The Roswell aliens just fought the smiling man, I'm told. And his name was cold. And I can't We'll be right back. The Mothman sightings and the solar storm still come to have got the Secret City underground. Mysterious number stations, planets are bold too.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

576: Operation Eagle Flight: The Escape from Berlin to Bariloche

2412.007

Project Stargate and where the Dark Watchers found. In a simulation, don't you worry though. The Black Knight satellite, it told me so. I can't believe it.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

576: Operation Eagle Flight: The Escape from Berlin to Bariloche

2430.819

And the fish on Thursday nights when they chase you And the wild birds on the beat all through the night All I ever wanted was to just hear the truth So the wild birds on the beat all through the night And the fish on Thursday nights when they chase you And the wild birds on the beat all through the night So one more time, repeat all through the life. Good enough to dance. Good enough to dance.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

576: Operation Eagle Flight: The Escape from Berlin to Bariloche

2476.439

Good enough to dance. Yeah, Gertie loves to dance on the dance floor because she is a camel. And camels love to dance when the feeling is right on wasting time. Gertie loves to dance.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

576: Operation Eagle Flight: The Escape from Berlin to Bariloche

506.657

Diplomatic immunity!

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 48: Olivia Jade

2080.982

Okay.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 48: Olivia Jade

2243.421

I hate being alone.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 48: Olivia Jade

2446.388

Okay.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 48: Olivia Jade

2706.063

Uh-huh.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 48: Olivia Jade

2965.177

Jake. I'm dead serious.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 48: Olivia Jade

308.652

Would you cry?

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 48: Olivia Jade

3179.146

Yeah.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 48: Olivia Jade

334.196

It's really intense.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 48: Olivia Jade

811.16

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

103.109

Yeah, Connor Ives.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

1036.173

This is making my stomach hurt.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

105.491

Well, isn't that what everyone's doing?

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

109.875

No.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

1101.681

You're willing to hang glide for someone.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

111.276

I heard you almost lie there.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

1114.836

In a show.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

1127.324

This is the first space I've been in in the last two weeks where I'm not freezing, by the way. So just thank you for that.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

1133.408

Yeah, I'm so hot. And thank you for not, like, for prioritizing me.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

1138.531

My bones have been chattering for the last two weeks. Do you get cold easily? Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah. It's really hard. So what do you sleep at? I sleep at 72. Ooh.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

1192.546

You can't tell that much. We did take Adam to his first spray tan ever.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

1197.97

You got a bunch of spray tans.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

1202.114

I think you, you were resistant to it, but I think you kind of loved how it looked. Yeah.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

1215.593

Only if you feel it's totally necessary, though.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

1229.963

And every time, like- Are you just too busy?

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

1234.906

Or are you not? Like, you're not, like, opening yourself up to love?

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

1289.538

They have like the sections so that people don't get trampled. And that's when professionals are organizing something. And they're like, we've done like the math on like body weight and like what each section can hold. And that's like thought and care was put into that. Right. So people don't get smushed.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

1304.688

I just think they did an amazing job. And they gave Lady Gaga such an incredible opportunity. But it's only because they were organized. Like, organization matters.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

1318.021

Physical safety is important. You know that post hang gliding.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

1342.438

I went the last year. It was a music festival because it was the last year. It was one weekend. And it was so good. And then the year after that, they just realized like how much more money they could be making. And now it's really like a branding opportunity.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

1378.525

You don't have to be good. Did you know that? I feel like people on TikTok prove that every day. I think you may be right. Yeah, so anyone can do it. How did you learn how to do it?

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

1388.729

What? I can't be honest on James Shane's podcast.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

139.96

Who are your friends?

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

1393.251

How did I find stand-up? I started taking improv classes. This was obviously an interesting time in my life. And I decided, I was like, wait, this is so fun. I might just try stand-up. I'll do an open mic and see how it goes. And then it went really well, unfortunately. So then my life took a dark turn.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

1410.88

And now I do this for work.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

1414.202

I do have a bunch of shows in New York coming up, and I'm doing one in the Hamptons, so that'll be fun. Oh, I love you in the Hamptons.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

1419.728

Yeah, they get to decide if I live or die. Everyone gets a little button.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

1426.696

So that's gonna be fun. And then, yeah, Holmes and I are actually hosting a show, Holmes Who Plays Haley and Overcompensating. She's incredible. July 18th at the Bell House. I think tickets will be on sale.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

1436.346

bell house at the bell house where's that it's in it's in new york and brooklyn i will be there really yeah i will be there i'm off i'm off everything do you want to do the show like do you want to be on it and we'll like ask you questions or something yeah okay yeah that makes i like wait really yeah feel safe there okay yeah it's a great venue yeah it could be fun yeah consider me locked in her stand up right now you would love her hour so much oh i want to see it like one of my it's my favorite you've ever done we had i had fun writing it it's fun how do you write jokes

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

1465.311

I just say things out loud that are funny and I go, I got to write that down, you know?

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

1470.194

And then that's the joke.

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the show that's from overcompensating when I'm like I have to go do my junior volunteer hours oh yeah that bullshit I was quoting your work but you had such oh my god at Coachella I really wish I think whatever was happening I think if you were with her you would have felt better she would have kept you safe there are many atrocities

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I think a lot of people have it. I think a lot of people have it. I mean, not me.

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Don't even bring up this after party.

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I got reamed out the next day. My God, I was sobbing on FaceTime. Wait, what? Are you serious? Yeah, at La Quinta. I guess we were supposed to stay, and we didn't know, so we just left. So here's the thing. We were supposed to stay. I was told that I don't have grit.

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It was a really heated time.

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He doesn't sugarcoat.

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And we have the type of friendship where we can have a conversation like that and then like do do like hang out and do work the whole day. And it's like fine. But I think it's because we just like respect each other and we hear each other even when things we like don't agree on. So like, for example, when I left the party and then I got in trouble.

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I was just, you know, cause actors don't have grit.

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I need sty culture to die down for a while.

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Because no one cares about your sty. No one cares about it except you. And I can't even see it, so stop. Have you guys ever had a sty? Of course.

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Broich?

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I love. You're not going to get that one past that.

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I know there's going to be comments about me being like, I don't know. I can already see the comment section of this one. It's fine.

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How much are you bringing up Porsches, by the way? A lot. Sometimes we'll see a car and we'll be like, oh, what a cool Porsche that is.

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Is this the one that said you had herpes? Because I'd like to have a word. No, no, no, no. That's a different brand.

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Interesting.

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It's brioche. I think anyway. You better hope it is.

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We were there for an hour.

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No, because you're complicit in sty culture. If you're going to call it out, then you're complicit.

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I agree. I totally agree.

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Yeah, short.

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I've never been in a space like that. What was that?

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No, it reminded me of like a pop-up museum of ice cream in New York or something. The door was so big. And it was like pastel. And then there was like, I want to say a Mickey Mouse sculpture.

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But it's like, why?

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Wait, do you remember when John Mayer's bus like let out their poop buckets into the Chicago River? And there was people like on a tour boat, like. And it went on them, I think. I thought that was Dave Matthews' band.

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You just turned straight for a second. I thought of, I got my wires crossed with white singers.

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I am so just listening to Charlie.

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I haven't heard it yet.

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You're doing a really good job.

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I just listen to Charlie still. Me too.

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She is a legend. She sang our first dance at our wedding.

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See, even talking about it right now, it's actually part of the problem.

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The worst show we've ever done.

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It was so by far the worst show we've ever done.

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No, they started the show without telling us. What do you mean? And there was a line around the block of people that weren't even sat yet. And Charlie Puth was there. So it was just like, it was a mess.

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Well, it was in a music venue, and it was like 500 seats sold out.

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It smelled like cum.

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We had a bunch of comedians on different segments, and just nothing worked the way it was supposed to. And then I think the only bright spot was Maren Morris singing The Bones, and we... Danced and there was a montage of childhood photos of us.

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I love that.

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Oh, how was talking to her about being able to read?

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I mean... Was that just, like, a dream come true for you?

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Because language is interpretive and it can be anything. I actually liked it. I had no problems with it.

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Yeah, and great.

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It's almost like we need to watch it just to like... It's all stuck in your head. I need to get a bus.

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I think Joaquin Phoenix is so good. He's incredible.

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It's a jukebox musical in a lot of ways.

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It's a lot like Glee.

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Have you ever seen an episode of Glee? No, the only thing I've seen is that meme that was like, I'm going to make a blank that is so blank.

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I'm going to make a blank that is so blank. And the internet goes fucking crazy.

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So that's something that's actually not okay.

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Yeah. Is it that good?

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It's not about the destination. It's about the journey.

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It's funny. It's charming. It's sad. It's tragic. It's like, it hits everything.

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They marry whoever they have to marry.

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I will say there is someone in there that has done the Jennifer Hudson show. I don't think the spirit tunnel existed.

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And no one else could see her. No one else could see her, it was just you.

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Portia's just, she's just mixing her matcha. You hear the sound of the spoon hitting them.

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Maybe you'll get around to it. Maybe you won't.

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plays out it goes as ellen no that's so obviously a gay guy we don't know this is a cold case we don't know this is why you had to leave you were like i can't do it i was but i just kept looking at her everybody i was like that's ellen and she would walk by alone every time alone it's crazy you didn't come up to either of us to find out or anything yeah no because like you guys were so i didn't want to like but i just wanted to congratulate you really high priority yeah there's an ellen look oh well you did hire that ellen look-alike

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Fuck, I forgot. She fucking showed up. We didn't get any photos with her.

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Why did they call it shiz? That pissed me off. That pissed you off? Why shiz, university? Shiz?

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You know what? Burn you at the stake. Then explain it. Yes, actually, let's figure this out.

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Before you come for me, tell me why it's called Shiz University.

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I think I did, but I can't remember it now. I said something. I did, but I don't remember.

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That's intimacy. Yeah.

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We're making a watch list for you.

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How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days?

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Oh, could it matter less that you haven't seen The Office?

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I want to ask every Neppo baby, how do you decide what to wear every day? How do you decide? Because you have so many clothes. So how could you ever pick from all those clothes?

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Oh, all Nepo babies have flat stomachs. They do. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I don't think Jeffrey Epstein is dead. And all Nepo babies have flat stomachs.

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It's fucked up. I'm like, is it the genetics of it? Or like, what's going on there? They all do have flat stomachs.

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Just ask yourself that next time.

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I don't know. But I would love some answers. So the next one you have on your pod, if you could just ask.

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Next time it pops in your head. Could anything matter less?

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At a desk. She was at a desk.

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Glenn DeGeneres has arrived at the overcompensating premiere at the Palladium.

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The paid actors who were there to go like, welcome to freshman year.

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Oh, yeah. First, we want to have fun tonight. I was like, fuck. He got a hate comment that we and they said it was written actually quite well so that we quote it constantly.

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Like the first few seasons. But I'm not like a diehard, you know. I haven't done a rewatch.

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It's not even these days. This is just your body now.

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Hey, hey, hear that. This is your body now.

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He's going to be Reacher.

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Right. And I'll be there cheering you on.

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No.

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And that was enough.

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Only if it makes sense.

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And what are you using them for?

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You only need one to put your air conditioner in when it starts being hot. So I don't think you need five. But I think it's like, yeah, what are you trying to gain from it?

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I think maybe, okay, maybe 20. But like this is sort of a, this is giving me like a college, late high school problem. This isn't like we live in a city.

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That's tough. I think wear a mask.

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A mask and a hat and sunglasses.

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It was tough for families. It was, it was the recession.

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People in your hometown. Oh, where are you from? Oh yeah. I'm from Connecticut. I'm from Stanford. I go home all the time, but I'm on good terms with people that I knew back then. So I don't dread seeing them. I guess there's a few people that if I saw, I would just wave and smile. You don't have to have a conversation. But I think you can always have AirPods in and you're on the phone.

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There's a lot of good advice in there.

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And do you see which one of us actually fixed it? I wasn't even going to say anything. That was so... I was just going to fix it.

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I would say like 10 things I hate about you or no. Whoa. No. How to lose a guy in 10 days. A lot of stuff.

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Yeah. Same like sort of time and tone. And it's just good fun. I haven't seen either. Yeah. Okay, well, that'll be added to the watch list.

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You have the rest of your life to watch this stuff.

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Never seen it.

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Yeah, that's the OC.

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Because you couldn't do both. It was like you did the OC or you did One Tree Hill.

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That's going to be on Nathan Scott. Wow.

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Yes.

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How could I not?

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I love shows that say, like, we don't have to make sense, deal with it.

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I love it. Put him in the bath naked as much as you want. Right?

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It was like, yeah. And I was the only person I knew that watched it, so it was really hard.

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I had no community. Have you seen Station Eleven?

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Your house is bugged. It is bugged. And we knew what to bring up. Did you guys ever watch Degrassi? I did watch Degrassi.

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Shots fired at Drake. I mean, he's been through enough.

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Well, shots fired literally. He gets shot at in the show. Yeah, because he becomes a paralyzed person.

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Yeah. That show tackles tough fucking subjects.

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It's not all a joke.

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It was on Noggin, which was like a CL channel. It absolutely was on Noggin. It wasn't Disney. It wasn't Nickelodeon. It was a secret third thing called Noggin.

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Oh, yeah, the two little dogs.

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Oh, totally.

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Honestly, I have nothing to add. What a perfect moment in television. And it's not talked about enough because that happened. That whole show is like sort of like left the consciousness. I had totally forgotten it was a thing.

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Jury's out.

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So exciting.

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It was during. Yeah.

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No, I wish.

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DM saying I want to suck the fart out of your ass.

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Yeah.

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I love this podcast just being us talking about shows we haven't seen.

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It could be really fun.

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We could have fun. If a guy farted during sex, I think just like, be gracious.

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Don't make it a big deal.

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Because that's what people want to hear.

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Oh, that had some stank on it.

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I turn purple. It's really bad. Okay.

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I can't stress this enough. I'm comfortable. For once, a woman is comfortable. God, just let her have it.

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I did. You watched all of it?

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It's very Smile 2. That's who I channeled on Drew Barrymore, by the way. When I had to chug. That was so Voss for you. You put that down in two sips.

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Not yet.

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I agree. She was incredible. Fabulous performance.

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But I think she was an actor's actor and I think she was probably doing it. I think so too. And imagine how many times she had to pee.

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No.

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We've seen that. I feel like the trailer was the movie in a lot of ways.

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And so I didn't feel the need to then watch the feature.

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He went as a kid. He just loved that World War II stuff.

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Come on. He was trying to be straight. He was like, I love World War II.

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Slevin? No. Yeah, he is lucky number Slevin. I never saw it. Never saw it. I'm a fan. I think he's great. I wish he was in more stuff.

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And he gave a speech, right?

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And I'm going to see that one without seeing the first one. What was it like?

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I'd be down. You should go together.

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Mr. Shady's here. We haven't even introduced Mr. Shady.

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That feels very doable. Do you know what I mean? That feels very doable.

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Ooh, that's a really good question.

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No, this is a guy who's 42. He wants to know if he should move to a town where it's all college students or a city.

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Yeah, watch the show. See what you could take from that. I think there's also, there are schools that feel like a college town, but they're like adjacent to a city. Then you can go into the city when you want, but you also have that like really community feel.

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Boston has a million colleges.

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Where'd you go again? Boston College, famously. Only for two years. Right, of course. I had my fun up there. It's just a little small.

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You did. I'm waiting to be asked to be commencement speaker, so...

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I want my honorary degree.

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I feel like what I learned and what is going to stay with me is that Ellen was at the premiere.

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And that means the world.

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Yeah. I mean, that's crazy.

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So then get out of the shot.

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Don't herpes shame. Yeah, of course.

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And thanks for taking the time to talk to us.

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Well, maybe people have been misusing it towards me. So I've internalized that. And so we're going to get to the bottom of this.

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It's been explained to me that it's a needle drop.

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And I have nothing to say on that.

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Thanks for having us, letting us into your world.

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Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you need to be expressive. Imagine if we weren't.

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But we do. Because all my lines are just, Benny, you look like a... One line that got cut that I want to say finally here is, you look like a fucking rapist. We did.

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And you had my tits out in the first scene that also got cut.

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But they're later in the season.

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Thank God. My guy takes care of me. Of course.

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Wait, it was a red carpet pic or inside the party?

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I looked good. That's all I'm going to say.

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People don't know that I can dance because I don't. really do it that much.

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I got drunk last night. Oh, we haven't even talked about what happened to me this morning.

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I know. Wait, you know, I'm Miranda Priestly's like, did you fall and smack your head on the pavement? That was me this morning. You, So I got up out of bed when it was the dark of night, and I felt so sick, so I got up to get some water, and then I was going to go throw up. But on my way to throw up, I got lightheaded. I fell to my knees, and next thing I know... God save me, my dog is my baby.

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I know I woke up and my head was throbbing and I had a huge bump and I must've just like passed out on the floor. So then I went back to bed, laid down, my head's throbbing more. And then I did throw up three times. And so now I'm here.

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No, I wish that, I wish that there was CCTV of it. I would love to know what happened.

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561.934

I think a ghost visited me. No, I was in a baggy t-shirt and my Calvin Klein's.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

566.395

Because nothing comes between me and my Calvin's.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

597.311

You shouldn't be in the women's room. That's what they said too.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

619.455

And he was, like, grabbing me and tossing me. They would never do that at La Ferretti Famigliata's, which is the Italian restaurant in Overcompensating.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

658.288

So what else?

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

664.33

So how are you?

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

667.192

No, I asked you.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

670.713

Stop deflecting.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

685.746

It's just like, it's a bad vibe for me. It's the worst vibe.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

705.341

Have you talked about this publicly before?

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

726.721

Oh, we have to do rides here?

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

737.23

Thank you for saying that. I guess what I ride for... I ride for you at the Webby's.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

748.1

I didn't catch any video.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

750.422

You didn't post video, did you? You won, correct? They gave you gay guy of the year. God, you won gay guy of the year? Sorry. Better luck next year, Benny. Well, every year the Time Magazine does gay guy of the year and Benny got it last year.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

793.993

Okay. I ride for Nepo babies dating each other. Me too. Because then if they have kids, that's second generation Nepo baby.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

812.533

No, she's too young to have a boyfriend. I think she's 18.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

815.757

Or a non-binary partner.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

817.919

I still think too young. I don't think women should date until they're 32. What?

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

822.304

Because they're not ready.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

90.437

I did full glam. They said, you're not allowed to wear a gown to a podcast, and I said, watch me.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

905.384

We levitated.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

908.067

It was special.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

909.788

It was a really beautiful moment.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

917.715

Oh, that's not what they're called. What?

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

924.222

They're called needle drops.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

931.308

I know, but that's just the... I mean, that's just the business. Yeah, right. Things don't always make sense.

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

983.059

Was this before or after you did skydive? Or hang gliding?

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 74: Ride x Therapuss

99.886

Connor Ives, thanks so much for providing.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#574 - Mark Normand

1436.165

Yeah.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#574 - Mark Normand

1444.534

Yeah.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#574 - Mark Normand

3428.281

Fresh seafood.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#574 - Mark Normand

756.053

Glasgow, you're going to fucking Glasgow, lad. Oh, yeah.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#574 - Mark Normand

759.335

Fuck yeah. Get a smash burger, lad.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#574 - Mark Normand

978.698

What you really want from a flight?

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E553 Grace O'Malley

1082.81

Yeah.

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E553 Grace O'Malley

1619.794

Ah.

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E553 Grace O'Malley

1761.698

Oh, shit. That's crazy.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E553 Grace O'Malley

2117.379

Yeah.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E553 Grace O'Malley

2574.999

Yeah.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E553 Grace O'Malley

2857.395

Oh, yeah.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E553 Grace O'Malley

2862.357

Yeah.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E553 Grace O'Malley

2935.036

Damn.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E553 Grace O'Malley

4746.796

Hmm.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E553 Grace O'Malley

5184.472

What are you doing out there with your fucking shirt off?

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E553 Grace O'Malley

848.404

It was crazy.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

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#572 - Pickle Chili

3183.753

Well, there's so many different situations. I mean, I've been at a party where I've seen somebody that jumped me before, so I told them, let's run the fade or just apologize to me. And I guess he didn't want to do that, so he ended up chasing me, and I tripped, and I got stabbed ten times at once. Lost two-thirds of the blood in my body.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3228.32

Honestly, you can't feel it because all of your nerves are on the top of your skin. So it just feels like you're getting punched, but you're bleeding, you're leaking.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3248.627

Oh, one of my buddies was on the phone with EMS and Snapchatting it.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3277.635

Honestly, no. You don't really know what to hold on to, man. It was more or less my stomach hurt. So that's why I was holding my stomach. But I was half dead by the time I got to the hospital.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3304.524

I just remember because I was on Xanax, too. So I woke up in the hospital and And then, yeah, I woke up in the hospital and then apparently you're only allowed two visitors at once and eight people come at once to come visit me. So then they kicked me out of the hospital like three days after it happened.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3344.631

No, I've been hit by the C train. Oh, yeah, the best one is... Wait, hold on.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3355.362

My buddy knew this foreign exchange student. He gave money to these guys to try and buy him a pack of cigarettes. These guys are like 30 years old. They just told him to fuck off. We're keeping your money. So I decided to go up and punch him as hard as I could in the head. And I didn't realize the police are there. So I'm getting chased by this guy's buddy with like a foot long knife.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3380.069

I keep looking back. still getting chased by the guy with the knife. Then I look back, it's the cops chasing me. So I'm at one end of a semi, and the cop is at the other end. Of a semi truck? Yeah, we're playing peek-a-boo to see where I go. I'm wearing a bright red Chicago Bulls jacket, and I'm freaking hammered.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3408.84

Yeah. And what happened was I ended up getting arrested for assault. I got bailed two weeks later. I'm at the same train station that I punched the guy at. I'm hammered standing on the platform. And then I get sucker punched in the back of the head. And oh, who is it? The guy stole that kid's 20 bucks. And then he just ended up pushing me like that.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3433.488

And I fell onto the train tracks and the train was coming in. So there's I didn't know what to do. I just throw my body above the yellow line and it caught my legs and dragged me like 15 feet. They like rip my shoes off, rip my pants in half. Oh, yeah.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3454.969

Yeah, pretty much.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3472.305

Oh yeah. I was an everyday alcoholic. We would all, all the boys would meet.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3490.895

No. Well, the thing is, is the C trains moving so fast, right? So it's coming to dock into the station to let everybody off. There's nothing he really could have done to, I don't know.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3519.449

Um, the biggest one was the balcony because I ended up buying some cocaine that wasn't wasn't all cocaine. So there was meth in it.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3534.402

Shit, man. Every time I look through the little hole in my door to be four people outside with weapons trying to bust in. That's what I would see. I'm dragging the diorama kind of. Yeah, I'm dragging the couch with the landlord on it to the front door to try and block it. Damn, brother. He told me to go to bed. So I went to bed and woke up. All I could do was get a glass of water.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3560.701

I looked through that people in the door and the same thing. People looks like people with guns are trying to bust into apartments. So I tried to go from my balcony over to the neighbor's, and I'm on the seventh floor.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3579.04

There was nobody even in there. That's why I was trying to get over to the thing.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3594.088

Shit. Like you could, if you reached across, you could pass a beer to your neighbor. So it wasn't that far.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3600.372

I just kind of was trying to leapfrog over. I know it's kind of stupid, but when you're fucked up like that.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3638.792

Yeah. And then the shitty, I guess the shittiest attempt ever.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3646.903

Yes, it was, yeah. Brother.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3666.376

At first, I stood up right on the thing and held my hand on the wall, but I was wobbling. With the balcony?

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3673.709

yeah on the rail of it so then i was wobbling so i was like oh shit i'm gonna fall so i like crouched down to try and like leap like that oh yeah get some uh build up a little bit of energy or whatever what is it called potential energy you crouched down yeah yeah leap my leapfrog my way down all the way 70 feet what happened did you bounce off the rail or you even hit the other balcony

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3701.189

Oh, I didn't even hit the other balcony. I'm sorry, dude.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3707.951

Yeah, no, it's all good. I laugh about it, dude. You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes, you know?

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3746.165

Not when, because damn, you fall so fast. I was 200 pounds at the time. And if you weigh 200 pounds and you go over 50 feet, you go terminal velocity.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3759.51

Yeah, I hit the ground going terminal velocity for the last 20 feet.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3777.54

When I fell down, actually, I've seen like some people on like the third or fourth or whatever floor it was. They were outside smoking on their balcony. Oh, that's pretty cool. I hit the ground. They look over at me. And I tell them to bring me some liquor because I know I'm going to the hospital. I can't move my damn body. And I was an alcoholic at the time.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3808.332

I don't know, man. I've honestly almost died even more times than that. Like when I was a baby, I fell into a motel pool while my parents weren't there. And I was drowned, pronounced dead. And I came back.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3826.124

Yeah.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3849.23

Yeah, I've been stabbed other times, too.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3872.788

I'm a tetraplegic, so I can, like I can't feel or move anything chest down. I can move my arms, but my fingers are stuck like this.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3887.221

Yeah. But at the end of the day, I don't ever complain about it because, man, I'm the one who wanted to do coke, and I can't blame that on somebody else.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3940.706

Yeah, I'm coming. I already got my VIP tickets, so. Sweet, bro.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3959.731

I live in, well, now I'm so crippled, I got to live in like a long-term care home. So I'm the youngest here. It's pretty much just older people.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3972.912

No, not really. Any disabled chicks.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

3984.624

I kind of gave up because once you sever your spinal cord, Man, you can't even bust a nut. I haven't busted a nut since I fell from that balcony.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

4001.735

The day before. Amen, brother.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

4047.001

Yeah, Calgary is probably the best, nicest city in Canada, I think.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

4065.872

That's where we do it. They won't let me across the border.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

4115.695

Sorry, dude. That's not funny, bud. It's all good. It is funny, dude. I laugh at anything, man. If I didn't become a criminal before, I would have became a comedian, dude. I just didn't have any father figure in my life, so I was homeless, 16 years old, downtown, selling weed, so not making good choices, but...

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

4171.545

All right. Awesome. Sounds good. Have a great day.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#572 - Pickle Chili

4176.809

Cheers.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1003.908

Die Opposition zu den Kondoms. Das war das erste Mal, als die Kirche sagte, das sei ungewöhnlich. Die Kirche war gegen sie. Ich verspreche dir, die Kirche war gegen sie, weil sie einen Nutt bekommen. Der ganze Punkt der Leben ist Prokreation.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1042.172

But is it people though? Because people were doing her harm. Maybe Mother Nature wanted condoms so rabbits and plants and shit could fuck. And bring back, you know, because we're fucking polluting. Especially if this is the 18th century. Mother Nature probably. The Industrial Revolution happens, we start polluting shit. Yeah. She's like, these motherfuckers are no good.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1064.806

We gotta get them nutting inside of plastic bags inside of pussies. Instead of free and clear.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

108.858

I need some... Socks. Dude, I think it's a good look. No. You can't throw ankles out, dude? Sorry.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1094.804

Das ist ein guter Marketing-Ploy. Das ist es, oder? Du wirst einen von diesen brauchen, Kumpel. Es ist wirklich so. Guter Tag, Sir.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1109.815

Siehst du ihn auf der Klappschlange? Das sind die Tage. Nicht zu viel in es. Ich weiß, oder?

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1128.368

Yeah, we'll go half on a condom with your boy. Tonight's a night, Judy. Be like, dude, jack off before you fuck. I don't want the first night of the day going in this thing. We need the second. The weaker one goes in this one.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1149.893

It's not rated for the first none of the day loads. It's not rated for that. That's crazy.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1191.912

Jahrhundert, also wir sprechen von den 1800ern. Du hast noch beide. Du hast noch Koppelers und Schuhfabrik-Arbeiter. Sie würden sie nicht mit Kondoms haben lassen?

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1198.595

Es ist ein bisschen beides, würde ich sagen, wo es so ist, dass die Bildung sie nicht versteht, wie nützlich sie ist, also die arbeitende Klasse hat Kinder, arbeitende Frauen müssen Kinder haben, sie sind verletzt, sie können nicht fucking, du weißt, ich meine, es ist eine klassische Sache, die arbeitende Klasse wird immer getrickt in diesem fucking... In all of human history.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1216.663

While the fucking, the barons fucking suck. You know what I mean? They're on their fucking couches. They're on their chaise lounges.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1223.47

The factory workers, they don't know any better.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1232.619

Well, that's good for, again, the upper classes. Sie wollen unabhängige, arbeitende Menschen in verdammten Lebensbedingungen.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

124.042

Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, sure, sure. I got the thighs out, I give out the whole leg for free, brother.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1245.43

Und sie bekommen mehr Arbeiter. Und dann werden die Waren niedriger.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1251.034

Machen sie weiter. Machen sie nur für die Reichen.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1263.699

Um es vollständig zu bringen, das war, glaube ich, als Batman, der erste Batman, geschossen wurde. Also haben sie es wahrscheinlich vermutlich vermischt. Aber diese Jungs sahen mir wie Raw Doggers aus. Ich denke, Adam West, können wir ein bisschen Forschung über Adam Wests sexuelle Geschichte machen? Ja, bring das auf.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1281.583

Ich denke Adam West und Burgess Meredith, das sind alte Männer, die nicht Kondome tragen, ohne absolut notwendig zu sein. Was sagst du? Schau dir das an, Adam West. Seine Geschichten über romantische Konquests, insbesondere die berühmte Nacht mit acht Frauen.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

131.027

Thank you, bro, I appreciate that.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1310.209

Real tough. Got the fucking suck before smartphones. Lord knows what Adam West was up to.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1321.391

Hey, what's that? Mayor, give me the woman with the largest tits in Gotham ASAP. Bring her over to my trailer. You got it, Batman.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1336.3

It's his fucking dick. He has a bat light, but he also has a dick light. I don't know whether he's horny or not. Bam! Squish!

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1355.468

Sie würden auf eine Wand gehen und sie würden die Kamera auf die Seite legen. Ja. Es ist ziemlich lustig, es zu sehen. Ja, wir brauchen mehr solche Sachen.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

137.411

I think so, yeah, I think so.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1370.736

Ist da eine Lieblingsgeschichte?

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1375.299

Weißt du, ich würde sagen, es gibt eine Sexszene. Wirklich? Es gibt eine Sexszene. Und es war wahrscheinlich mein Lieblings... Ich habe den Film, wie gesagt, mit meinen Freunden geschrieben.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1406.39

Janet presses her tits against Mark vigorously. Don't add actions, please. I just think it should be clear. I think it should be clear it's a vigorous tit press.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1444.172

Ich werde es ausmachen. Dann hast du einfach ein Stück schwarzes Masken-Tape drüber gelegt. Ja. Ich versuche zu denken, weil ich... War das ein nerviger Tag? Es war seltsam, Mann. Also ja, es gibt eine sexuelle, und ich will nicht zu viel verspüren, aber es ist eine wilde. Und ich würde sagen, es gab einen Intimativ-Koordinator. Und das ist die Person, die ich am meisten schlecht fühlte.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1469.898

Weil diese Person's Job ist, wenn du... Ich hatte eine Nudenszene. Und wenn du nudest, muss eine Frau ein bisschen... Ja, genau. Ja, vielleicht bin ich es.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1501.894

Ich wäre so nervös. Ja, ich meine, es hat geklappt und es ist wie, du weißt. Und die Person ist nackt, die Frau? Ich werde nicht überlegen, wer, ich werde nur sagen, ich bin nackt. Okay.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1511.723

Du weißt, das ist, du weißt, und, äh, also ich bin definitiv nackt und, und eine, und eine Frau muss, äh, Tape, literally Tape meine Dicken und Balls zu dieser fucking Sache, weil du willst, dass du nackt siehst, aber du willst nicht, wenn du weißt, Du willst nicht, dass Leute meinen Arsch den ganzen Tag aufschauen. Du willst eine Plastikflasche drauflegen. Aber diese Frau hatte einen Job.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1531.721

Jedes Mal, wenn das Ding zerfällt, musste sie einfach rein. Diese arme Frau, Mann. Sie musste mein Arsch retapen.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1542.17

Es ist wie die Art, wie sie deine Anker auf ein Highschool-Football-Spiel tapen würde. Sie hatte das gleiche Demeanor. Es war wie ein gerissener... Du wirst in Ordnung sein, Mann. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1557.982

It was tough, but... Wow. No, dude, I fucking... So there's a lot of little layers in the film, huh? Yeah, there's a lot of, you know, anything, again, anything for a laugh. And I wanted, you might never get a chance to make a movie again. So it's like, let's fucking, let's leave it all out there. You know what I mean?

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1573.75

And so, and the way there is always, I love, again, I used to love when there was over the top sex scenes in those movies we're talking about. So I was like, Und es gibt auch andere physische Sachen. Ich musste viel laufen, was furchtbar ist. Ich habe es nicht gedacht.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1596.613

Ja.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1609.821

That's just a joke, Albanians. That's just a joke. Yeah, yeah. One of my dear friends, that's the classic racist thing to say. My best friend is Albanian, which is actually true in my case, but it's like the classic... Und wie viel kostet der Film?

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1625.853

Es kostet 750.000. Wow. Ja. Also, es fing mit 200.000 an. Und wir haben es mit, ich will sagen, Dark Sky Films, es ist eine kleine Produktion, sie haben viele coole Filme gemacht, viele coole Horrorfilme und so, aber niedrigere Budget-Sachen. Und sie waren einfach einfach großartig zu arbeiten mit. Sie sahen einfach nur einen Short, den wir gemacht haben.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1649.336

Und sie dachten, dass wir einen einzigen Ort schreiben würden, weil der Short in einem einzigen Ort stattfindet. Aber wir dachten, wenn du uns einen Film machen lässt, werden wir ihn f***en. Es wird wilde Scheiße sein. Und so haben wir es ziemlich stark auf die Anzahl gedrückt. Weil es so seltsam ist. Du lernst auch so viel über diese Art von Scheiße, wo es so ist.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1671.331

Eine der Dinge, die ich gelernt habe, ist, dass du nicht wirklich über einen bestimmten Budget gehen kannst, weil dann alles mehr teuer wird. Und du musst mehr, nur für Union-Gefähigkeiten musst du mehr Leute involvieren. Es wird ein schwieriger Job, wo du denkst, The lower budget you make a movie, they kind of allow you to like, a lot of people can do different jobs.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

168.166

Nein, nein, nein.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E545 Stavros Halkias

1690.024

You can, you know, obviously you have to follow certain rules and you can't overwork people. But there was basically like a limit where they're like, look, if you spend any more than this, we have to pay all the actors more. We have to pay everybody else more. And you know, Wir haben ziemlich viel verloren. Ich meine, ich habe Geld verloren. Also hast du dir dein Geld reingemacht?

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Nein, aber ich habe nicht gearbeitet.

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Du weißt, was ich meine? Dein Zeitkosten.

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Und ich werde wahrscheinlich Geld verlieren, nur um zu reisen, um es zu promoten und so. Aber, wiederum, wer tut was? Es geht um cooles Geld. Und es ist so, dass ich nicht für Geld starte. Und so, aber ja, du lernst ein paar Sachen. Und du denkst auch, wie? Denkst du, dass ein Film so ein f****** Schauspieler wird, der sich über jede Szene und solche Sachen spricht?

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Und sie sind so, Alter, wir haben f****** zwölf Minuten, um das zu bekommen. Und oh, es ist tatsächlich die wichtigste Szene im Film. Na gut, Glückwunsch. Und dieser Hund muss in einer halben Stunde schlafen. Wir legen den Hund runter. Ja, wir legen den Hund runter, ohne dass du diese Szene schaffst. Ich bin so, hä? Ja. Yeah, it's just cheaper to put them down. Union rules. I don't know, bro.

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Either nail the scene or the fucking Shih Tzu gets it. I didn't want to kill a dog. You shouldn't have fucked with the teensters.

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Ja, der, den wir nicht genau erklären können oder so.

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Die einzige Bedingung war das Budget. Und für mich ist das so viel cooler. Und du kannst tatsächlich ein Arzt sein. Nicht, dass ich meinen eigenen Arzt tue. Es ist ein Film über einen Fakten. Und du siehst meine Nuts in ihm. Es ist nicht so, dass ich mich wieder verletze. Wir machen nicht. Wir sehen beide deine Nuts in dem Film.

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Absolut.

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Sie gehen tief. Sie gehen tief. Sie gehen tief und sie sind voll. Deep Breath, sagen wir mal. Die Lungen des Himmels. Ich habe Michael Phelps Lungen. Nice capacity on those lungs. Nose, not so much. Cute little button nose. Michael, yeah, dude.

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All right, all right. I see what you're doing, man. Wouldn't have happened if it was made out of Hellenic marble.

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No, it's not a Michael Imperioli nose. It's very, it's almost like a burn victim nose.

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I've got a penis like a cat's nose, you know?

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It'll keep nudging you until you give it a little attention. It'll beat a jingle about a death on your Christmas tree. Wow. But yeah, but I didn't get to show my real nuts, which is a prop. But again, these are the artistic sacrifices we have to make sometimes.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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Are you gonna have big back tires on a fucking swimmer? I think he's got a nice pair, dude. No, he doesn't. Look at this. Nah, I will not... I bet you he's tucked them underneath his ass. You have to almost tie them in your ass. There is, okay. There is an image, I believe, they tried like... Wow, look at that. He's fucking jacked. He's probably got a... I mean, he's a big dude.

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He's got a nice pair. Now, I would say probably, size to size, pound for pound, I think I have pretty nice nuts. Oh, yeah. And not weight. I'm talking about frame. Okay, wir reden nicht darüber, was mein Körper auf dem... Weil Nutsch, das ist ein großer Vorteil für den fattigen Mann. Die Stöße werden größer, je fatter du wirst. Dick und Ball bleiben der gleiche Größe. Ist das wahr? Absolut.

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Oh. As far as desserts go. Very structurally sound.

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Dick, ähm, mein Dick wurde plumpierter, je fatter ich wurde. Das ist fast wunderschön, dieses Mal im Jahr. Ja, ja, ja. Die Leber verändert sich, die Nutsch wird plumpierter.

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Every helping of squash, your fucking dick gets a little bigger. No, if your dick got bigger, the fatter you are. I would be 800 pounds. You would have like feeders trying to get dicks as big as possible. Yeah.

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Done and done, dude.

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People can go check it out? Yeah, please go see it. Congratulations, man. Thank you, dude. I think it's cool to support. It's obviously my movie. I believe in it a lot, but it's like... Jede Zeit, wenn kreative Leute, die du liebst, Scheiße außerhalb eines Systems machen, denke ich, ist es wichtig, diese Scheiße zu unterstützen.

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Yeah, well, I think that is another thing that I learned about movies, which I didn't think about at all, is that it is such a visual... You think it's about the writing, you think it's about your jokes, especially being a comic, you're like, it's all about the writing, it's all about the jokes. And you don't think about, like, it's a visual medium.

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It's like a bunch of interesting pictures strung together. Ultimately is what it is. And it was interesting to, like, talk to our cinematographer and a scene that I thought was, like, pretty straightforward, just two people talking, kind of what you're describing, just faces. He's like... Nein, lass uns das einfach spielen. Warum lehnt ihr euch nicht auf das Auto?

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Warum machen wir es nicht etwas interessanter? Und das war eine verdammt schreckliche Teil davon. Ja, weil du darüber nicht nachdenkst. Ich denke nur an die Lachen. Und ich denke nur an meine Worte, die lachen. Und dann ist es cool, einen Film zu sehen und zu sagen, oh, du machst einfach etwas mit deinem Gesicht und das ist eine Lache. Und du rennst lustig und das ist eine Lache.

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Weißt du, was ich meine? Und das war eine coole Sache. I love comedy so much and I'm just trying to figure out every way to be funny. And I think like, yeah, what you're saying of like making it interesting, having the visuals being really interesting. That's a huge, a huge, again, it's a cool learning experience. And that's what I, I don't know if you feel this way, but it's like.

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Das ist das Schöne daran, dass du lernen kannst, wie lustig wir sein können. Die Zeit, in der ich mich am meisten engagiert fühlte, war, als ich einen offenen Mikrofon hatte, um zu lernen, wie man Comedy macht. Und es ist cool, die Chance zu bekommen, einen Film zu machen und zu fühlen, ich weiß nicht, Dick, ich bin so dumm wie ein Scheiß. Lass uns herausfinden, wie wir all das machen.

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Ich bin ein zurückhaltender Griech. Ich werde nie das machen. I had a Yido yesterday, bro. I had a Chichi yesterday, dude. Sorry, man. I thought you had some time under your belt.

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You know, sometimes I put on them nighttime underpants. You know what I'm talking about. Because who sleeps naked, baby?

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Sie hätten es in 8 Jahren gemacht.

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9 Jahre Slave. 7 Minuten Slave. Ja. We didn't need to see all 12 of the years. Yeah, dude, come on.

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Das ist jetzt raus. Ja, das ist jetzt raus. Ja, das ist der 2025. Oh, es ist bereits raus. Du kannst es bereits kaufen, den 2025. Schau dir den Kaff auf den Sky an. Du magst das, Alter? Schau dir das an. Es ist poppend. Kettelbell, du bist da. Es ist poppend, Bruder. Ja. Wow, du hast den Rogan-Head da unten. Nuts und Kaffs, das ist alles, was ich habe. Oh. Oh, und ist das wirklich?

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Ja, ich bin auf dem fucking Mount Everest, da. Das ist ich. Das ist ein wunderschönes... Einige von ihnen sind wirklich, andere sind die Arbeit meines brillanten Produzenten Benjamin Buttcheeks. Wow. Benjamin Buttcheeks, Ben O'Brien, der auch mein Spezial gedreht hat. Er hilft mir auch mit dem Kalender.

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Das ist Squirtember, natürlich.

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Wow.

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Ja, wenn du dich auf die Bilder zeigst, gibt es viel Spaß im Hintergrund.

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Es hat eine Ecke. Mobycock. Do you um... Les Gizzerables. Wow. Oh, die verschiedenen Bücher auf der Buchstabe?

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Viele Easter-Eggs, viele Easter-Eggs. Und dann haben wir Halloween da.

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Ja, ich habe gesehen, dass sie das hatte. Ich habe einen Nudekind gemacht. Das war die erste Sache, die in meiner Karriere erfolgreich war, bevor ich etwas gemacht habe. Ich habe einen Nude-Kalender verkauft, als ob es ein Feature war. Ich habe für Bobby Kelly geöffnet. Und das war das erste, was mir Geld gemacht hat. Ich habe einen Kalender geöffnet seit, ich glaube, neun Jahren.

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Und ich habe sie selbst geprintet. Ich habe sie aus meinem fucking Honda Civic verkauft. Und jetzt macht es viel Geld. Aber ich würde ein paar Tausend Dollar machen. Und ich war so... I'm fucking rich, dude. The headliner starts to hate you. That was always a thing.

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Bobby was the man. He knew me. He was cool with it. I would just fucking sell it on Instagram and mail it personally to people.

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Aus dem Hintergrund meines Rucksacks. Ich würde ein dreckiges Restaurant in Frederick, Maryland bezeichnen.

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um es wie einen kollaborativen Kalender zu machen, wo es jeden Monat einen Gästen gibt, der eine andere Art von Person ist. Vielleicht Männer, vielleicht Frauen, einige non-binäre Arschlöcher. Einige unterschiedliche Körpertypen. Sagittarius, was auch immer. Barbecue-Liebhaber, was auch immer. Einige Centauri. Einige halbe, kurze Beine. Lange Leben. That is true.

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Yeah, dude, so it's way less, way smaller for budget than those two. Honestly, the movie is, I just love dumbass comedies. Like the stuff we grew up on, like the Sandler, you know, Spade, Farley, you know, to Will Ferrell, to all that stuff that was just like silly as shit. Der erste Film, den ich besessen habe, war Billy Madison. Ja.

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The taller you are, the quicker you die. Is it? That's what I'm saying. Timber! Short people live longer. Bring them down! Enjoy all that pussy, 6'6 guys. Must be nice, dude. Now, I'm not going to go into the obesity metrics right now. We're just going to keep it just on height. I'm gonna take my wins where I can get them, brother. This ain't about me, dude.

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A good foundation.

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Sure, I would love to get... Yeah, you're right.

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I think they're close. I think you show them a little, you know, any of the most hard-edged union worker, you show them a little bit of the forbidden fruit of what it can be like to be a fat, you know, just, they would trade in a heartbeat.

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Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Absolutely. That's what we should figure out here. We should set up a situation where it's like, look, we got DMs coming in. Yeah. We're not going to be able to fuck everybody who wants to fuck us. We don't want to fuck everybody who wants to fuck us, right? What do you mean? What are you saying?

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I'm saying both of us, I feel like, have, I'm sure you're, I don't check my DMs too much. Oh, you have DMs coming in, you're saying? I'm saying young ladies that want to, you know, are attracted to a style of guy. Older ladies. Across the board. We're not going to fuck all of them. We should be able to find, in my case, Rubenesque, you know, union workers.

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In your case, I don't, you know, I don't know exactly know guys that run rehabs or, you know, guys that run rehabs or, I don't know exactly.

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Aber, weißt du, kleine Müllet-Könner, weißt du, was ich meine? Theo-Style-Gentlemen.

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Nachbarschafts-Farmer, ja. Sie machen keine Farmen selbst, aber sie haben den gleichen Zip-Code. Sie haben den Zip-Code von Farmland, aber sie haben keinen Tractor.

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So, yeah. We should be able to hand them off some of the DMs. That's all I'm saying. I think that would be a nice thing to do.

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Donate a DM, almost like create love connections.

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I'd love to do that. I'd love to host a dating show, actually. That would be awesome.

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I love that. A little romantic comedy.

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Purely. Without question.

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Yeah, I'm just saying, if you're ever in the bus belt, you know? Well, you can't let it fly like Adam West used to. I'm definitely using condoms, I'll put it that way. I guess the dangers of the bus, you don't want to get stuck in the bus belt. You can have a nice visit, but you don't want to be a father that has to check in, court-ordered, once a month at the bus belt. That's the biggest danger.

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Especially if it's a layover to get to your child.

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Und einfach so blöd, technisch eine Prämisse, aber es ist so, würde das jemals in der Realität passieren? Nein, aber wir brauchen es nur, es ist da, als ein Skeleton für Jokes.

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Right, because JetBlue doesn't want to fucking fly direct to Akron. Oh, dude. And we just used Akron in a joke last week, which is crazy that you did as well.

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Yeah, we were there at the same.

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Ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja. You've been more, you know. Cream in the cannoli. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Oh, not good. Not good at all. Ich meine, das ist etwas, worauf ich mich befinde. Ich weiß nicht, ob es direkt ist. Ich weiß nicht, ob ich... Es ist eines dieser Dinge. Es sind ein paar Dinge in meinem Leben, die ich fühle, die ich zu überleben muss. Und das ist langfristige Gesundheit. Ich habe viel Zeit verloren und ich habe dieses Jahr ein bisschen Gewicht verloren. Ich habe 45 Pound verloren.

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Aber im Monat, in dem ich Türen schiebe, den Film promotiere, wieder Stand-Up tue, habe ich 10 Pound gewonnen.

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Ja, ja, ja. Es war ein Misch. Es war wie, wenn du, erinnerst du dich, das Show, wo sie random Storage-Units öffnen?

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Und lass uns blöd werden, lass uns dumm werden, lass uns ein paar lustige Leute in es bekommen. Und das ist, was dieses Film ist, Alter. Es war so... I just wanted, you know, I wanted the opportunity to make something that I loved. And like, I don't consider myself an actor. I'm a fucking comic. And comedy movies, I think, are an extension of just like, I'm not trying to make a good ass movie.

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Das ist so, wie mein Körper war. Du hast nie, wenn das Shirt auskommt, weißt du nicht, was du bekommen wirst.

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Weißt du, was ich meine? Es ist ein bisschen mehr. Jetzt öffnest du ein Storage-Unit, zumindest hat es einige rostige Schelfe, in denen alle Sachen sind. In kleinen Boxen. Oder Kurios. Ja. Es ist ein Kabinett von Kurios.

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Ich habe gearbeitet, also lege ich immer noch Gewicht und so weiter und fühle mich besser. Ich habe hier von Queens auf der Stadt gefahren. Ja, weil du ein bisschen wett warst, als du hierher gekommen bist. Ich hatte Schmerzen. Ich habe auf der Stadt gefahren und habe gehört zu Sexy Red, du weißt, die Insexy, die wir vertrauen. Ein paar Banger auf das.

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Nichts wie zu hören, dass du schlechte Arschlöcher bist, wenn du gearbeitet hast, in meiner Erfahrung. Weil es mich in den Kopfraum bringt, weißt du? Oh, ich sehe das. Da ist etwas etwas mehr, da ist etwas etwas mehr, um, du weißt, sicher, ich liebe es. Sie ist zurück. Oh, ich liebe, sie ist zurück. Ehrlich gesagt, das eine über den, äh, den Herren, der draußen ist.

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Ich erinnere mich nicht, welcher, äh, ich erinnere mich nicht, welcher es ist. Es ist wie, äh, du weißt, äh, ein Anthem für die Gäste, um bereit zu werden. Vielleicht ist es draußen. Außen. Außen, ja. It's basically a song about, hey, gals, you know, look real hot. There's a bunch of sexy gentlemen outside.

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And even though I don't want to fuck the guys, I could gender flip that and be like, fellas, there's whores to be gotten. Let's fucking put on our nice shirt. Let's get out there.

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Yeah, boys, come on. You've been shut down three times in a row. Actually, maybe go home now that I think of it. You're kind of fucking the vibes up. I just thought about it for a second. Please leave. Both the ratio and the vibes are being fucked up by you.

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Get back out there!

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Remember, people used to slap people like that. Das... Ich möchte das wirklich einmal in meinem Leben machen. Wie die drei Stoogies? Du könntest in einer der drei Stoogies sein, Bruder. Absolut. Ich würde es gerne machen. Ich würde gerne ein bisschen physische Komödie machen.

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Die Märkte sind geschlossen.

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Ja, ja.

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Und das war alles, was es brauchte. Ja. Du hattest nicht zu senden, jemanden zu einer fucking mentalen Institution zu senden.

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Simpler Times. Now, did he go home and hit his wife? Not deal with any of the mental issues? Probably. We can't say. We don't know. Maybe it is better. Again, on second thought. There wasn't a lot of accurate reporting back then. Right, we don't know the numbers. Do you, what was that like taking a year, you took a year off stand-up.

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Was it a year? Es war etwa sechs Monate lang, aber ich habe nicht von Februar bis zu einem Tag gedreht. Aber du hast noch gearbeitet oder nicht? Nein, ich habe keine Stand-Ups gemacht. Und es war... Das Schlimmste war, dass es großartig war. Ich fühlte mich in Frieden. Ich musste nicht jede Woche reisen.

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I'm trying to make a fun time. 90 minutes. And you know, I'm proud of it. Don't get me wrong. It's not fucking dog shit.

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Ja, genau. Es fühlte sich so aus. Ich würde lange Läufe machen. Ich würde in den Supermarkt gehen und sehen, was heute spezial ist.

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Oh, durch den Supermarkt. Nein, nicht durch. Nein, nein, nein. Ich bin wie, hier ist dieser Kerl, der... Ich fahre auf einen fucking Safeway und schicke... Ich schicke alle Eilen auf den Supermarkt. Es ist wie, oh, was meinst du, ist das nicht ein Meilenmarker von den Graham Crackers? The way they have old people walk through malls, they have fat people walk through grocery stores.

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These are your favorite things, little buddy. You pass the ice cream eight times, you get a lick. You get a fucking thing, a whole halo top. No, I would fucking walk by the water. I was in Baltimore. I would take long ass walks. I would buy like one piece of meat, grill it up, eat it with some veggies. It was a beautiful... Ein schönes, einfaches Leben, aber ich liebe es auch. Das ist das andere.

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Und dann stand ich da und dachte mir, verdammt, das ist großartig. Aber ich denke, die Lektion ist, drei Dinge nicht auf einmal zu tun. Das ist viel. Also ich denke, nächstes Jahr, wenn ich touren werde, mache ich nichts anderes. Jetzt habe ich den Fehler gemacht, von nichts zu Tieren, der Film kommt raus. Back to my Stand-Up, Back to my Podcast. I have a tour that I'm announcing.

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But it's not like Amistad.

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I think, actually, probably, if it comes out next week, it'll be then. The Dreamboat Tour. I'm doing a big, all across, like... On the water? Yeah, that would be fucking sick. I should have done that. I should have chartered a sailboat. But no, it's more of a metaphorically the Dreamboat Tour.

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I'm trying to get something else I've seen recently. No slavery.

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Das wäre echt toll.

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Ja, der Horn von Afrika, der Horn von... Ja, er wurde getroffen. Die Gales vom November kamen früh und haben ihn getroffen.

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I don't know what's going on with your references. No, sorry.

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Are you talking about your internal monologue feel? Are you talking about every time you see a Greek person, that's what you think?

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Okay, that's all I'm saying.

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Ich nehme das mit Freude. Schwarze Leute sind cool. Sie sind die Kulturdreher von Amerika, ohne Frage. In manchen Fällen, glaube ich, ist das vielleicht Ancient Greece. Was ist Demokratie, wenn nicht der originale Hip-Hop? Ja. Weißt du, was ich meine? Wie sich alles von dem ausgefiltert hat. Kindlich, weißt du, in der gleichen Weise. Ich liebe es, wenn du mich Big Sour für Teens nennst. Ja, ja, ja.

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In der gleichen Weise, wie die Musik von den Blödsinnern für immer genommen wird, hat jeder unsere Scheiße zwischen Philosophie und Demokratie genommen. Was war das, der römische Empire? Sei nicht ein Hater. Scheiße, Rom. Sie haben die ganze Scheiße genommen. Einige Leute denken, es ist in Griechenland. Also, nicht in Griechenland töten. Das Louisiana-Publikum-System. Cheaper Globes. Von 1820.

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30 Länder. Sie vermischen Europa zusammen. Ja.

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I say, I'll take that. Like I said, you know, I had a joke in my special where if you think of, really, I think Greeks are probably the most light-skinned Arabs. It's really what we have more cultural, we're pretty similar people. Loud, you know what I mean? Like loud, kind of flashy, you know what I mean?

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But I think people, British people loved England, or England loved ancient Greece so much that they were like,

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wir müssen sie weiß machen, weil dann weiße Menschen, weißt du was ich meine, wie ehemalige Griechenland weiß war, wenn in der Realität, glaube ich, wir wahrscheinlich leichte Araben waren, ja, sehr laut, du weißt, touchy feely, du weißt, was ich meine, wie es einfach die gleiche Vibe ist, der goldene Jewel, du weißt, ich trage Jewel, ja, ja, weißt du, was ich meine, ja, sicher,

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Ja, warm, intensiv. Wir sind weniger... Wie Grape. Was ist das? Wie Grape. Grape ist ein sehr mittelösterreichisches Essen. Wir nehmen Grape. Wir nehmen Grape. Dates, all that type of shit. Oh, yeah. A date's nice. And me personally, I like... Ich mag diesen Stil der Frau auch, schöne Haare, große Nase, so eine Situation. Irgendwo von, weißt du, du gehst nach Spanien in den Mittleren Osten.

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I haven't seen it since I was a child. Ist es wie eine Allegorie für etwas falsch?

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Oh, okay.

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Stree Overlord? Rhino?

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She's lying.

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Look how far apart her eyes are. That's a space for deceit. That's the deceit zone right here. I guess she's just holist. Let's calm down. But they look at, it's like a lie detector test or whatever. Wow, die Boner-Pillen, oder?

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Oh, Alter, glaub mir. Ich bin glücklich, dass ich nur das Ende der Gasstation-Ära hatte. Das war schrecklich. Jetzt kannst du sie online ziemlich einfach finden, aber ich wollte auch, in der Zwischenzeit war ich überzeugt, dass ich einen alten italienischen Arzt hatte. Mhm.

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And I convinced him I had some other, I read that like, if you have some kind of prostate issue, you can also take Cialis to like relieve that. I just kind of read it as like, I was doing my research. Yeah, for sure. And I was like, dude, I think my fucking prostate's fucked up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My prostate's acting up. Yeah, it's picking up radio stations. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

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And he was like, and he had to put his finger up my ass. And he realized the prostate was fine. But then he was like, Okay, I give you the cup. He knew what I wanted. Which is also like, why did you have to put your finger up my ass? But I guess he just was hoping I was onto something. And then he was like, listen, I give you this and no more. But he was like, he knew I was just, I was like 20.

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He had short fingers, wide fingers though. Er war f***ing großartig und er hat mir ein paar Dickpillen gegeben und das war mein Heiliger Geist.

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Also, nein, es ist nicht so. Es ist nicht wie Bridges to Terabithia.

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Ja, du musst es in die Hälfte nehmen. Du musst das am Ende machen.

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Du musst es am Ende machen. That's a fun kind of Passover parable. It was horrible. Making the one dick pill last 12 days.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. One dick pill. 100 milligram Viagra. We made it last for 12 weeks. We each took one lick of it. Me and my friend's dad. How long were you living with your friend's father?

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Es ist nur lustig, Alter. Ja, lustige Filme, gute Komödie. Lustig. Wenn du dein Gehirn auslässt, keine Lektionen, wirst du kein besserer oder schlechterer Mensch sein. Ja, ja. Weißt du, was ich meine? Du wirst nur eine gute Zeit haben. Du kannst so hoch wie verdammt hoch sein. Weißt du, was ich meine? Ja. Du kannst ein bisschen Popcorn machen. Du wirst keine Plotpunkte verpassen.

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Jeden Tag, wenn sie ein Mädchen haben, würde ich da rein gehen und spielen.

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Das ist ein Lied, das du spielen würdest, während der Kerl Pussy hatte. Es geht um sein fucking Sonnenfall aus einem Fenster.

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Sorry, Eric.

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Is Eric Pappas alive?

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Eine verdammte Veröffentlichung, es ist nicht so, dass du es gut gemacht hast. Du hast es verabschiedet und es ist so traurig. Du hast es verabschiedet und es ist so traurig. Du hast es verabschiedet und es ist so traurig. Du hast es verabschiedet und es ist so traurig. Du hast es verabschiedet und es ist so traurig.

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Du warst die Musik für die verdammten... Ich habe meistens Post-Coital mitgebracht.

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Okay, schön. Ja, das ist gut, Mann. Also das waren die drei Songs. Ja, ja, ja.

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I almost have Jason to send him in there.

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Come on. Climb up his bunk bed. Climb up the top bunk.

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That's a very interesting living room.

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Siphon Gas?

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Okay. Warte, warte.

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Du möchtest vielleicht zurückgehen und sehen, ob du eine Lüge verpasst hast. Aber du bekommst den Film. Weißt du, was ich meine? Der ganze Punkt ist, wie... What if a guy was so annoying, his cult committed suicide without him? Like they left him out of the final ritual. And then he tries to start up his own cult. And that's the like... And so I'm just, I'm that guy.

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That is very... More of a seafoam?

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Aber das ist mein Chauffeur.

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How they behaved. I love the idea. And how old was that guy at the time?

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And I guess a divorced man? Yeah. I lived with his family before that. Through the divorce? And then he got you in the divorce? He's like, how the fuck did I end up with my son's adult friend in the divorce? This bitch got the house. I got Theo playing fucking Tears of Heaven while I'm trying to keep a heart on.

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Was that your weirdest?

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Richtig, richtig, richtig.

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It's so fucking funny. I did the same. I similarly, I convinced my friends to give me a shitty room in their house in Baltimore. I lived for $300 a month. I had a room. They were just like, I was literally living on the, my go-to meal was beans and eggs. Oh yeah. I would bake them and put them on one sheet. And that way I could just use the sheet as my plate. I wouldn't have to do dishes.

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I'm the fucking annoying idiot who's just like, you know, with a heart of gold, classics, classic comedy shit. And I just like, you know, we meet a bunch of funny people. We have... Es gibt wirklich lustige Comics. Bobby Kelly ist in dem Film. Tom Papa ist in dem Film. Es gibt viele lustige Comics. Wes Haney, der das mit mir geschrieben hat, und Ben Kittnick.

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This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp.

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Es war so, dass ich mit meinen Freunden die Chance hatte, einen Film zu machen. Und ich dachte mir, fuck it. Was zur Hölle? Niemand lässt mich in einem Film starren. Ja, du musst es machen.

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Wow, die haben sich verletzt, Alter. Denkst du, das ist nur eine Platte von Fajitas, die zu viel riecht? Denkst du, das ist ein bisschen unkontrolliert? Das ist ein guter Punkt. Wir wissen nicht, dass es nicht nur eine wirklich intensiven Fajita ist. Es ist eine Fletcher-Kantina, nach wie vor.

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Yeah. Oh, yeah. Vielleicht ein Flambé. Wir machen einen Saganaki, griechische Leute, den Käse, den du auf Feuer gesetzt hast. Oh, ja. Ein paar verschiedene Sachen könnte es sein. Ich glaube nicht, wir sollten sofort die Schlussfolgerungen machen.

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Well, ja, Wallburgers. Fletcher.

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Das klingt, ich muss ehrlich sein, das klingt nicht empfehlenswert. Fletcher. Das klingt zu viel wie Fleisch. Fletcher.

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Fletcher-Kantina? Nein, danke.

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Interesting, interesting. What do you think that's about?

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You're in the lobby?

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At 12.30 on your computer? Desperate for attention.

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Pretending to have a gun?

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Schau dir einen Film an und die Lachen sind so... Ich versuche nicht, einen Kommentar über irgendwas zu machen. Ich versuche nur, dich zu lachen. Und es ist so, es hat sich... Auch einige meiner Lieblingsfilme, bis zum Ende, hatten alle seltsame Lektionen. Oder sie haben einfach... Auch 40-jährige Virgin, das ist seltsam, wie eine Allegorie für die Virginität.

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You have failed the keep it on you challenge or caught lacking challenge. Yeah. Yeah. You failed the cult liking challenge by Mark Wahlberg. I was like, look at this fucking boondock saint out here. Was he in that movie? He was not. Oh, damn. No one of the joke didn't land. But he does embody the spirit of the boondock saints. He thought he was in it. He thought he was in it.

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He seems nice, but it's also like that... Level of Fame where people start to go insane in a polite way. It doesn't seem sinister, but it's insane to wake up at 3 in the morning to work out and play golf. It's just crazy. 3.15, yeah. 3.15, wake up, pray for one hour. Ich meine, ich weiß, du weißt, was das ist. Ich weiß nicht, ob du, ja, 2.30 Uhr.

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Ich meine, das ist nicht der Zeitpunkt, um aufzuwachen.

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Ja.

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Das kann nicht wahr sein, oder? Hey, Alter.

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Ja, aber das ist nicht so, als würdest du eine Stunde und eine halbe Atemzüge planen. Du planst nicht eine Stunde und eine halbe Atemzüge. Du bist so verdammt, dass du eine Stunde und eine halbe Atemzüge nimmst. Ich habe einige von diesen auch genommen, Theo. Ich schätze nicht, aber das ist, als ich überhungert bin. Und ich bin so, soll ich einfach Drogen an 7 Uhr machen? Ja.

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Du spielst 45 Minuten, um dich zu überzeugen, nicht zu nehmen. Das sind die langen Schuhe, Mann. Sie denken nicht über den Herrn und meine Bicep-Girls. Ich kann nicht schlafen, ich bin so hoch, ich sollte in die Schuhe gehen.

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Vielleicht, wenn ich in die Schuhe gehe, werde ich keine Prostituierte kaufen. Maybe if my hands are wet, I can't fucking use my phone so I won't fucking buy pussy and hate myself the second I nut. That's what that shower's about. That shower's not reflecting on your 3.15 a.m. breakfast. And look, we're cross-promoting our own lives here with yours, Mark. We're not talking about Mark Wahlberg.

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This is from Mars. We're putting a little of the personal into this riff.

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Oh, welche guten Feuer? Ich weiß nicht, ob wir... Ich habe nur Hasskriege in meinem Nachbarland, die nicht lustig zu sprechen sind. Ja. Nur Idioten, die nicht verstehen, dass indische Leute nicht... Wie nach 9-11, ein fucking Idiot in Baltimore... War das ein indischer Mensch? Ja, sie haben einfach einen Sikhen, der eine Turban trägt.

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Er ist Osama Bin Laden, also werde ich seinen fucking Mini-Mart zerstören.

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Ja, literally, er war wie ein fucking netter Typ.

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Du kannst in vielen dieser Filme lesen, aber du kannst nicht in diesen Film lesen. Es gibt keinen Untertitel. Es ist ein fattiger Typ, der sich 89 Minuten lang auf Hijinks befasst. Nicht mal 90. Du wirst raus. Du wirst raus. Und wenn du durch die Kredite fassst, dann wirst du 87 und ein halb. Weißt du, was ich meine? Nichts wie ein dicker Typ, der kurz kommt. Ja, absolut.

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Ich schaue es mir an.

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Ja, ja, ja. Was ist der traditionelle... Quesadilla-Smoothie. Ja, ja, ja. Ein Slim Jim Quesadilla-Smoothie. Das ist das, worauf du geboren wurdest. Und niemand kann diese besser machen als meine Mutter. Haul, Fleisch, gebratenes Fleisch. Ein bisschen Schwab in da.

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Ja, ja, ja, vielleicht ein schönes Possum-Rib-Rost.

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Ich war in England, ich war in London und ich hatte indische Essen und es war so unglaublich. Ja, sie sind da. Ja, naja, das ist der eine Abstand von der fucking britischen Empire. Sie haben indische Essen mitgebracht. Wenn sie Indien verdammt haben, kann ich am wenigsten eine schöne Mahlzeit genießen. Ja. Als Ergebnis. Sie sind da, egal.

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So, but it was good as fuck. You'd be a good Indian, I think.

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100%, man. I've got some Buddha qualities. I just think, yeah, they would herald you. Well, they do respect the cow. So I have a bull, kind of like a bull.

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Yeah, I don't know about that.

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I can get pretty crispy, dude. Can you? Greek Mediterranean blood, you know, maybe that's it. Maybe that's what happens. I get such a tan. That someone mistakes me for an Indian. Signs you up. Signs me up to be the first Indian sumo wrestler. And there we go. India's first female sumo wrestler defying odds and empowering women.

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Love that. Push them around, Hatal.

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Love interest.

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Yeah, I could smash an Indian sumo-wrestling woman. No problem. That's love, dude. That's love, absolutely. I can't really tell. I'm going to say yes. I'm going to give it a hesitant yes from that picture that I would smash.

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I'm up for the movie.

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Ja, und ich meine, ich will es wirklich machen. Mal sehen, was passiert. Mal sehen, wie die Sparke auf dem Set fliegt. Ja, Alter. Das ist alles, Alter. Glaubst du, dass es eine Romantik zwischen dir und Spade möglich ist?

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Nein, es gibt einen gayen... Es gibt... Ich denke, Tim Dillon könnte da drin sein. Okay. Ein kleiner Teil. Oder nur ein Teil. Wer glaubst du, der dann was macht?

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Okay, also ich bekomme den Film. Und sie brauchen gute Komödie.

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Did you feel any of that energy?

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Aber wir sind in demselben Spot. Und es ist... I think it's going to be fucking great. I mean, the first season, I didn't even know, when I agreed to do it, I thought it was going on YouTube. Like, it was like, Shane texted me. There was no, like, agents involved. There was nothing. He was like, hey, we're doing this thing. They didn't have scripts. We were kind of writing shit as we were going.

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Like, I was supposed to have a small part. And we just had, like, so much fun doing it. They kept, like, adding. It was, like, so fun and... Wir fühlten uns, als würden wir eine lustige Web-Serie machen. Weißt du, was ich meine? Weil ich es liebte. Gillian Keeves war so fucking lustig. Seine Sketchen waren so gut. Und ich war fast in einer, und dann fiel es durch.

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Und so wollte ich einfach eine Chance, mit diesen Leuten zu arbeiten. Und als Shane mich aufhörte, war ich so, ich brauche nichts zu wissen. Lass uns das einfach machen. Und es ist verrückt, dass wir dieses Ding nicht gemacht haben. Ehrlich gesagt, wir haben es in ein paar Wochen gemacht. Und dann haben wir ein paar Tage von Reshoots gemacht. Und es war ein fucking Show, das top war.

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Netflix für zwei Wochen. Es ist verrückt. Meine Mutter mag es. Ja, ja, ja. Und also denke ich, ich meine, wir haben von, ich denke, wir fangen im Oktober an und wir enden im Mittelpunkt des Dezember. Und so ist es, du weißt, viel mehr Zeit. Sie hatten tatsächlich eine echte Schriftstunde. Sie haben die Skripte übernommen. Wir haben, ich will nicht. Ja, ich bin der least important.

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Ich will nicht zu viel geben, aber es gibt ein paar coole Schauspieler in es. Du spielst den Bruder, richtig? Ich spiele, ich bin basically wie sie, äh, Ich bin im Grunde... Oder der Vater, der andere Manager? Nein, nein, ich bin derjenige, der nicht in der Familie ist, im Grunde.

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Ich bin derjenige, der... Es ist wie ein Familien-Tireshop, und ich bin wie der mittlere GM-Manager, der einfach nur in der Mitte ist. Du kannst nicht sagen, ob ich gut am Job bin oder nicht.

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Ich bin einfach nur ein Pigeon. Wiederum, eine ziemlich schwierige Rolle. Ein blöder Idiot. It was really hard for me to get into the character. But it's going to be fucking good, man. I mean, and those guys are great.

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Both. I mean, it depends. But it's mostly... I would say it's mostly handheld. They have some, you know, steady shots. But no, it's... We have... The whole crew is fucking awesome.

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Kyla crushes it. That's what's awesome about like... Du musst Shane lieben, weil er seine Freunde wirklich mitgebracht hat. Ja. In einer sehr Sandler Art, aber sobald er es konnte, wie Steve Gerben, der ist, weißt du.

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Er ist der Mann, er ist der Leiter, aber es ist so, als ob sie zusammen Open Mics gemacht haben. Weißt du, was ich meine? Ja. Das ganze Crew, Kyle, das gleiche Ding und McKeever, der es regiert, ist so fucking gut. Er ist so ein toller Direktor. Shane ist ein toller Schauspieler und es ist, es ist großartig. Es ist einfach großartig, das Art von Scheiß zu sehen. Und das ist das, was lustig ist.

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People saying queers, people fixing tires.

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You want the chassis tightened up or not? That's been the story of our history. Aber ja, ich meine, wenn du uns etwas in einem Tiershop setzt, ist das so, wie diese Arschlöcher sich verhalten. Ja. Weißt du, was ich meine? Du musst realistisch sein.

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Ja, das wäre interessant.

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Vielleicht auf dem Weg zum Fleisch. Weißt du, was ich meine? Bring sie rein.

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Ja.

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Let's be realistic. And if your thing is set in a tire shop, that's how those guys have to behave. I'll watch the trans swimmer show. That's fun. And they can go do, you know, they can fucking talk the way they actually talk. And if you have tire guys, talk the way they talk.

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I agree. And those guys are funny as shit. My dad's a contractor. Diese Leute sind lustig. Sie wohnen in diesen verdammten Arschlöchern. Sie sind so dumm. Und sie... sie... sie... sie... sie... sie... sie... sie... sie... sie... sie... sie... sie... sie... sie... sie... sie... sie...

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There's no oversight. No matter how many reports the UN writes, you're not stopping that. You're not stopping the fucking family owned tire shop from saying racist shit. You can't do it. That's how it goes. Same thing with diners. I mean, you can't. Don't let a teenager work in a Greek diner. Just don't do it. Don't let the hostess work for some guy.

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The evil variant of me from a different universe that has same hair, open black polo. You know what I mean? You don't want him fucking, you don't want him sexually harassing the hostess.

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Ja, also jetzt ist er so, ich werde mich töten. Ja. Weil ich würde lieber... I would rather die than have a heart that's against public school systems or something, you know? No one will be committing seppuku at the end of this movie for their political beliefs. It's called Homeschool Heart, that movie.

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Ja.

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Nur mit seiner Hand, nur mit der Spatel. Ja, griechische Restaurants, das gleiche. Guck, es könnte ein paar Kniehaare auf deinen Lambchoppen sein, aber es wird der beste Lambchoppen, den du je in deinem Leben gehabt hast. Willst du wirklich die verdammten Food Safety-Mitglieder in diesem Thema haben? Willst du einen blöden, haarenlosen Lambchoppen? Sei mein Gast. Gott, Lamb, was? Die Pussy of Beef.

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Ja.

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I agree. Gamey. It really is kind of. It's good as fuck.

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This is good, dude. Oh, I love a nice fucking lamb chop.

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That's awesome. I love the Ravens. It's fucking sick. And I have a show. I have a show at the Lyric, which is, I did it last year. I did a bunch of shows this year. I'm doing a couple for the holidays. It's fucking nuts to go to your fate, the team you grew up rooting for. And it's like, They fucking put me on the Jumbotron, dude. You get a big pop.

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I got to fucking, yeah, you get to, I got to meet players. I get to meet this guy.

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That's real fan Dan. Oh, okay. Who is, yeah.

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He does the R-A-V-E-N-E-S dance.

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R-A-V-E-N-E-S. He's got some, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the Chaperone version. Chapel Raven, dude. Chapel Raven, that's me, dude. Und ja, das ist auf Ravens Instagram-Account. Der offizielle Ravens Instagram-Account. Lass mich einen Helmet anziehen. Du musst dir das nächste Mal einen Darm anziehen. Sie würden mir nicht sagen, dass ich Waffen nenne.

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Ja.

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Groß auf der Ecke. Ja.

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Yeah.

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Bist du ein LSU-Mann, bist du ein Seinz-Mann?

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Die Hashtag-Seine werden von den Beatitudes geformt. Schmerzhaft, schmerzhaft, schmerzhaft, schmerzhaft, schmerzhaft, schmerzhaft, schmerzhaft, schmerzhaft, schmerzhaft.

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Sie haben es rausgenommen, aber in dem Tweet zeigte es sich, dass die Städte-Logo immer wieder mit dem Hashtag Städte ist.

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Was? Interessant. Aber das, das zeigt, da ist es. Das zeigt, dass der katholische Gott nicht wahr ist. Weil ein Tweet von Pope Francis dich nicht mal zu beat the fucking Panthers bekommt. Das ist ein guter Punkt. Ich würde gerne sehen, dass ein muslimischer Typ über dich tweetet. Ich würde gerne sehen, das ist ein guter Weg, zu sehen, wer gewinnt. Ja, ja, ja. So können wir sehen, wer richtig ist.

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Ja. Jede Religion tweetet über die jungen Menschen. Twitter, start your fingers. Ja. And they rattle off? And they rattle off. And you see who really gets... Is it Islam? Is it Judaism?

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To put a curse on your opponent.

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Was a homeschool teacher. Das wäre lustig, ja. Ja, es ist wie beide Seiten. Und auch independent Filme, es ist wie, ich weiß nicht, weil ich, du weißt, ich würde gerne über mehr Comedy-Stuff sprechen, aber... Ja, aber das ist interessant, weil es ein neues Zeitpunkt ist, wo jemand seinen eigenen Film macht.

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Und du hast dich nicht verabschiedet. Du hast gesagt, ich bin raus.

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Hast du jemals, weil ich denke an New Orleans, sie haben ein paar spukige Sachen, irgendwelche Wüste, irgendwelche Voodoo-Sachen.

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Hext für Peanut Butter M&M's.

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Ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja. Warte, was für ein Altar und wo war dieser Altar?

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Und es war einfach da draußen. Ja, sie hatten das Ganze zusammen. Es ist interessant, wie viele verschiedene, weil griechische Leute haben, wenn jemand, wir haben das, wie ein kleines Altar für deine vergangenen Verliebten. Und wenn du dich darüber denkst, ist es, auch wenn wir griechisch-orthodox sind, das ist so klar wie ein pagansches Ritual. Du hast ein kleines Altar für den Verletzten.

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Das ist nicht in der Christenheit irgendwo. Es ist einfach, weißt du.

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Wir gehen nach Mangianos. Ja. Haben ein bisschen Pasta in deiner Erinnerung und das ist es.

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Na, das ist das Ding, Alter, es ist wie, ich weiß nicht, wie du dich fühlst, aber ich fühle mich, als hätte ich... the jackpot of all jackpots, right? Like I never thought I'd be fucking podcasting.

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Ja.

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You gotta deal with your generational trauma, you cocksucker. Stop depending on your grandfather to turn your life around.

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Das hat mich definitiv zerstört, als ich es gesehen habe. Was passiert ist, dass ich und meine Brüder eine Tradition hatten, in der wir irgendeine Art von Halluzinogenik nehmen würden. Was auch immer ein großer Hollywood-Release war, wie ein großer Spaß-Aktion-Film. Oder wie Star Wars. Die erste Zeit, als wir es gemacht haben, war die neue Star Wars.

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Präquels, where it was like, we didn't give a fuck about Star Wars that much, but it takes some fucking acid. You watch Star Wars. It's gonna be fucking awesome. So we would do that on Christmas or around Christmas. You really will actually. It did cause some issues.

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Surprise attack with a catalytic converter out there.

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So we did that and then one year Aquaman was coming out. Oh yeah. Forgot to buy fucking tickets ahead of time. We thought for sure there's no way Aquaman is going to be sold out. And then we forget. So it's sold out. We get there. I'm already on acid.

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And we're like, alright, let's just get back to the house ASAP. We're all fucking on acid. We didn't have, we couldn't. So then my brother's like, Coco is pretty, like, colorful. This could be fun. Dude, it's a story all about family death. Like, my best friend's mom had just died. We were like, it's a story all about, like, family and death.

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Like I wanted to just do comedy. I never thought I would have to like build my own fan base to just like make a living and then like got really lucky. And, and like, so when you get lucky, what do you do with it? And it's like, I've never been the kind of person that just wants to chase. I don't want to get super famous. I don't want to get super rich.

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und Alter, ich habe mich einfach überrascht. Ich habe mich einfach überrascht und gedacht, Alter, ich dachte, ich werde Jason Momoa kämpfen und einen Fisch in den Kopf fangen. Und jetzt denke ich an meine toten Großeltern. Und ob sie mich stolz sind oder nicht.

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Es war so verrückt, Alter. Wow. Und dann mein Bruder, ich habe so viel überrascht. Danach war mein Bruder so, okay, Mann. Und er hat Thor Ragnarok für mich gelegt, um mich einfach zu entspannen. Er war wie ein Baby. Du musst... Here's your fucking dumb movie, because I would watch that on acid a bunch. That was a fun thing I would do sometimes. He puts on Wendy Weatherfoot on YouTube.

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Yeah, he puts on softcore pornography with huge-titted women. He's like, here you go, buddy. Your favorite stuff. Wendy Weatherfoot is a children's... Oh, no, sorry. I was just thinking... I don't know what Wendy Weatherfoot is. I was just going into stuff I liked. Yeah, Wendy Weatherfoot is a nature-based animation series on YouTube...

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That would have been a better thing to calm me down. Yeah. But yeah, it was fucked up how much cocoa on acid when I was not emotionally ready to deal with it. How fucking destroyed me, dude. Destroyed me. But, you know.

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Yeah.

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I don't know, guys. Same thing. The last one we did was Avatar. And I literally was fucking crying at that, too. But that was more like, the movie was affecting me. I was like, oh, fuck, dude. Ja. Ja, ja.

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Oh, das wird es dir für sicher machen.

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While we look for that one more time, I was on Acid at the movies. The people in the theater thought I was a special need. What was it?

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I was actually on Mushrooms and Acid at the time. And it was a hacked one. You know, you're familiar with Babu Frick? He's a little Star Wars guy. He's a little Star Wars Muppet. And every time Babu Frick would come on, I would be like... Ja, ich wäre so glücklich, weil ich so wütend war, dass ich zurückgekehrt bin zum Baby. Und er war einfach nur ein süßer, süßer Muppet-Mann.

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I want to be able to make the stuff I fucking love. And like, that's what this was. It's like, Ich denke, es gibt einige Leute, die... Wir haben die Chance, unsere eigene Fanbase zu bauen, wo es so ist, wir können das, was wir mögen.

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Und jedes Mal, wenn er herkommt, bin ich so, ja! Und ich konnte nicht aufhören zu lachen. Und die Leute waren verrückt und sie sahen mich an und dann sah ich sie, sie sahen sich an und sie sahen sich an und sie sahen sich an und sie sahen sich an

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They thought I was like some teenager. They just looked around. It's like, there's no way a man this old and fat is not special needs if he's reacting to Babu Frick this way. And they looked at my brother and my brother was like, sorry. And they were like, oh no, it's fine. Dude, I don't even know what to say now. Du bist nicht ein Asset an Filmen. Oh, ich und mein Freund.

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That's some of the funnest, that's one of the funnest type of guys in the world. Oh, we're so high, dude.

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On hallucinogenics or just weed?

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Ja, ja, ja. Nun, wir haben so hart gelacht... May I use the hash browns defense?

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Und anstatt zu versuchen, in einen Mainstream-Studio-System zu kommen, oder... Nicht, dass ich nicht einen fucking... Ein Studio, das einen Film machen möchte, ich würde es lieben, aber anstatt für Jahre zu warten, denke ich... Ich weiß nicht, eine Generation von Comics hat herausgefunden, man kann durch die Internetseite eine Fanbase machen und dann ist es so, was willst du damit machen?

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Was für eine Art gayer Typ sind wir hier?

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Quick. Quick mit seinen Worten. Er hatte eine Flasche drauf, aber es musste nicht drauf sein.

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Ja, er verkauft sie. Er ist so.

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Fuck yes, dude.

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I've never been there, no. I want to go, and I have, I mean, I have friends who are on the show now, and like, it would be cool to go, but I just, you know, always traveling, never here. Saturday, it's a hard night to be. They'll probably ask you to do it this year, I bet. No. Ich glaube nicht. Ich würde es gerne machen. Würdest du? Ich würde es absolut gerne machen.

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Ich habe Freunde, die auf dem Show sind, und es scheint ein schwieriges Job zu sein. Ja. So stressig es ist, sich ständig zu verhalten und Touren zu machen, du bist immer noch dein eigener Boss. Ich kann es mir nicht vorstellen. Das ist ein riesiges Comedy-Show, das die Leute immer noch sehen. Aber du bist jemanden, der ein Employee ist. Ich kann es mir nicht vorstellen, das zu machen.

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Selbst wenn es ein cooles fucking Job ist, mich einfach nur um meine Leistung bei der Arbeit zu kümmern, kann ich das nicht machen, Alter.

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Ja, absolut. Ich bin mein eigener Boss und mein Boss ist ein fucking Idiot. Und mein Boss ist ein Arschloch. Mein Boss ist ein Arschloch? Er ist ein fucking... Ja, er ist ein Kloset und homosexuell auch.

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If I saw you in Houston If your name is Mark and we hooked up in Houston Hold on guys, let me start over.

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Das ist gut für dein Verständnis des Fretboards.

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Es ist mehr intuitiv. Es ist mehr... Ja, SNL war cool zu sehen.

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Ja, er hat wirklich versucht, du weißt, es ist so, dass man es manchmal denkt, es ist ein bisschen schmutzig oder so, aber er hat es so, du weißt, du musst dich da bemühen, du weißt, was ich meine, wie Sketch Comedy generell ist ein bisschen, ist ein bisschen schmutzig, aber wenn du es tun wirst, musst du es fucking tun, weißt du, was ich meine, es war cool, McGee hat gespielt, das war ziemlich cool, ich versuche zu denken, was sonst passiert ist,

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Gehst du zu den Nachpartys oder so?

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Ein Show von Macht. Das ist wie in Nordkorea, da gibt es ein paar Tanks und so. SNL ist wie, wir haben zwölf Limousinen. Ja. Wir haben das, was wir haben. Wir haben zwölf Limousinen, die zu den Dave & Busters in Times Square gehen.

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Das ist großartig, Alter. Salute an diese Leute. Sie haben einen großen Fehler gemacht. Sobald jemand ein bisschen Pornografie riecht, sagst du mir, dass sie zurückgehen werden zu keinem Porn. Das könnte legitimitär zu der Zerbrechung des nordkoreanischen Regimes führen.

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Und für mich ist es so, lass mich einfach einen fucking Film machen. Die Art und Weise, wie niemand... Es ist dumm, dass ich Theater verkaufe. Es ist dumm, dass ich Filme mache, aber das ist, was ich fucking machen will. Und anstatt einfach gebrochen zu sein und ein Schauspieler zu werden und all diese anderen Sachen, war es so, I know at least some people will see it. My fans will see it.

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UkrainianWorldCongress.org.

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What the fuck is this? This is a website we made a half hour ago.

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It's whatever you want it to be. A usually reliable source. This is from this article.

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That's awesome. Gorging is crazy. Gorging means, what's gorging like the equivalent of, because I've gorged on food. Yeah. Probably mouth open, use a couple of phones, go in at once. I don't think it's their best soldiers. I think they're sending expendable guys. There's no way Kim Jong-un is sending his best boys out there.

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100%.

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Let's zoom in on a couple of these guys.

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Er sieht großartig aus. Schau dir das an, Bruder. Wow. Ich will so eine Frisur tragen. Du kannst das machen, Mann. Ich brauche diese Frisuren. Ich brauche diese verdammte leckere Jacket. Ist das Goat-Frisur? Ja, ja. Woher bekommen die das? Es ist glänzend.

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Er hat wirklich seinen Ausblick herausgefunden. Er kommt in seinen eigenen.

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Ich würde es lieben, so zu leben.

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The hats are pretty high.

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That's a lot. Because he's lost all the blood from that ear and it's gone translucent because that's all pumping to his cock. It's all being used, brother. All non-essential blood is being redirected to your dick when you see porn for the first time in 40 years.

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Wo hast du das herausgefunden? Wer hat dir das erzählt? War das einfach nur eine gute Idee?

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War das einfach nur eine gute Idee? War das einfach nur eine gute Idee? War das einfach nur eine gute Idee? War das einfach nur eine gute Idee?

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Danke, Mann. Ja, ja, wir haben ein paar dünne. Und ich stecke sogar die Kälber. Was mich interessiert, ist, dass ich ein bisschen zu milky white hier bin.

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You could. You could take shelter behind my calves. No problem. I would love that. Yeah, dude.

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Hopefully, you know, some of your fans will see it. Like, that's the cool thing about building like a network where it's like you just hit up your friends. It's like, I'm not on... I got on NPR because the lady liked my movie. Like a lady on the weekend thing liked my movie. But it's like... Wir haben keine Mainstream-Gruppe, um es da rauszuholen. Ich weiß nicht, ich finde es cool.

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Police seized a goat from an 11-year-old girl.

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What is up with cops taking fucking animals, dude? Yeah, something happened with a squirrel, too. I don't understand why people are fucking... It's just, like, bureaucrat... Like, who gives a fucking... Good for this girl, she won 300k. Now, I don't know all the facts. Hopefully this goat wasn't biting people's dicks off or whatever. Hahaha.

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It turns out the goat was a fucking piece of shit, but if he was just a nice little goat, Vanessa Shaquib...

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And the goat's just like... Ja, der Schwerstdebatte hat nichts gemacht, sondern das Gesetz gefordert. Ja, richtig. Wer weiß, ob das wirklich richtig ist.

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Ein dummer Scheiß schnitzte. Sie sollten Peanuts töten, aber der Scheiß, der schnitzte, ist offensichtlich der größte Villain hier. Aber auch die Polizisten überstehen. Die Polizisten lieben es, ein verdammtes Tier zu töten, wenn sie können, Mann. Sie tun es. Sie schießen die Hunde des Menschen für keinen Grund. Sie mögen einfach nur das Tötchen. Halt ihn doch!

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He had a gun. The Barrett had a gun.

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I can tell you right away. So for me, you know, I didn't love either candidate here. I really didn't understand being enthusiastic about either candidate. I think, you know... I'm not a Trump guy, obviously. I think he is dangerous in the things that I'm scared of the most. And the thing that made me lean towards Kamala was, more than anything, was the Supreme Court.

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And that it would be, if it's put under far-right control for the next however long. We've already seen women's right over their bodies, the abortion. Roe v. Wade's been overturned, which I think is really dangerous. That's going to really affect women's health care.

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already in states that banned it you see they're getting less just general ob gyn care because it's more dangerous to be a doctor in those states so we don't think about shit that trickles down so like it's harder to get just general health care let alone abortion in texas now for women and that's only going to get harder in rural states and i think for me that was the number one issue that's really fucking scary to me especially with the border being open they're letting rapists in it's fucking

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Es wäre krass, wenn die Leute das gemacht hätten. Wenn du das gemacht hättest, was du dir gefreut hast, weil du diese Fanbase hast und deine eigene Sache gebaut hast.

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If we're going to follow your logic and you claim they got rapists coming in, maybe we should also keep abortion, but, you know, I think we got plenty of homegrown rapists, too, but, you know. We've got our own. We've got some heirloom American rapists, for sure. Jesus Christus.

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Aber ich denke, das ist mein... Das Nummer eins, was mich erschreckt, ist das, weil es nicht nur... Das ist der erste Schritt. Und ich denke, man kann wirklich sehen, Dinge, die wir als Progresse nehmen, Gay Marriage ist eine andere Sache. Es gibt eine wirklich seltsame kulturelle... Ich denke, das ist, was jederzeit passiert.

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Die Partei, die gebackt wird von den Können, die großen Unternehmen, die reichen Menschen. Die reichsten Menschen in der Welt wollen far-reiche Politiker. Und ich denke... Denkst du immer noch? Absolut, ohne Frage. Ich fühle mich, wie die Technik jetzt... Ich fühle mich, wie die Parteien verändert sind. Elon Musk ist ein großer Trump-Typ. Das ist ein guter Punkt.

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Ich denke, reiche Menschen unterstützen jeden, der in der Macht ist, Nummer eins. Aber sie wollen das Wachstum von den Bösen an die Reichen überwinden. Sie haben es wirklich gut gemacht. Das größte Problem... Ich denke, die Grund, warum die Demokraten verloren haben, ist, weil sie pretentieren, dass es kein Problem gibt. Es ist so, das ist fucking verrückt. Du musst den Leuten sagen, dass sie...

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Es gibt hier Probleme. Scheiß ist teurer. Ich denke, Inflation, ich denke, ein großer Teil von Inflation ist, dass Unternehmen realisieren, dass sie nur mehr bezahlen können und sagen, es sei jemand anderes Schuld. Einiges davon ist preisgängig. Das ist, weißt du, das ist fucking wahr. Und das, aber du solltest alles, es ist viel teurer.

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Und Unternehmen sind, einige von ihnen sind nur echte Inflation, aber einige von ihnen sind Unternehmen, die sich hinter der Inflation verstecken. Und die Demokraten haben nichts gemacht, um den Preis zu stoppen. Sie haben nicht mal gesagt, dass sie es machen werden. Man kann nicht sagen, dass es gut geht, wenn es einfach nicht geht.

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Und es tut weh, weil die demokratischen Parteien gesagt haben, dass sie nach Dick Cheney gehen wollen. Das ist so bizarr. Es ist verrückt, weil sie nach politischen, moderaten, republikanischen Leuten gehen wollen, die... Most working class people don't agree with the economic stuff that they're saying. And then culturally, it bothers me when you become a party of tattletales.

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It's become a party of middle managers that want to get mad at you if you say the wrong thing. And it's like... Das ist nicht das wichtigste Problem. Das wichtigste Problem für die Leute ist, dass sie keine Gesundheit haben. Warenunabhängigkeit ist außer Kontrolle. Die Waren der Menschen haben nicht mit dem, wie viel die Bossen verdienen, gehalten.

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Well, we don't need you anymore. So you don't get anything and we keep all the fucking profits. And I do think, I mean, I think we talked about it a little bit last time where it's like AI is a tool to fucking do creative shit. It's so weird. It's like it should be making normal people's lives easier. It shouldn't just be for rich people to be able to charge less.

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Like there should be some protections for workers and we should be able to like, you know, You should be able to fucking buy a house. All these fucking regular issues that weren't really hit on. It was just, well, you got to vote for us because the other person's worse. And even though I think that is true, that's not a winning message. That's nothing.

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Wow. You like it, bro? Yeah.

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Ja, es ist eine schlechte Zeit. Genau. Und es ist so, dass niemand sagt, dass das die einzige Komödie ist, die existieren muss. Weißt du, was ich meine? Ich will von jedem was sehen, aber es ist so, dass du dein eigenes Ding machst. Jeder kann sein eigenes Ding machen. Meine Version davon ist einfach so eine blöde. Lass uns einen Kult starten. Lass uns einen Kult starten. Und es ist auf VOD.

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Especially when the other side is offering, they're at least saying shit's bad. And they're saying it's for the wrong reasons. I don't think it's immigrants' fault. It's definitely not fucking. Trans people aren't the people buying up houses and not letting you buy it. You know what I mean? But at least they're saying something's wrong. And they're saying some fucked up shit, in my opinion.

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They're trying to make it culture war stuff. They're trying to divide people who should be on the same side by saying, oh, gay people are bad, trans people are bad, when it's like, the people trying to fuck you are rich people. That's how it's always been. That's the fucking, that's a tale as old as time. And it's weird.

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Some people think they're going to be fucking billionaires when it's like, they don't make off crypto or whatever. And they're like, well, when I'm that rich, I don't want to be taxed. And it's like, You fucking don't. You're sharing a loft bedroom with your friend's dad who's taking dick pills. You don't have to worry about fucking tax rates going up on you. Bet on yourself now.

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Bet on yourself right now, man. How about we raise some fucking taxes on the richest people and you get some fucking healthcare. It's just, I don't know, man. Maybe I shouldn't have asked. It's a lot. It's frustrating because I...

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Having said all that, I think what people are scared of the most with Trump is just, yeah man, the Supreme Court being taken over by ideologically really right wing, because now the Senate is Republican and there's like, you know, taken over by that, that is scary to me. Because we can see a lot of stuff rolled back that we take for granted as fundamental and stuff that's just progress.

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We can argue over like, Wirtschaftsprobleme, was auch immer, aber einige von diesen Dingen, das schmerzt mich.

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Ja, ja, ja, zurück in die Klause, Jungs.

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Ah, komm schon. Ich habe einfach alle meine rechten, ich habe einfach alle meine Dockers weggezogen. Ja, was sagst du da? Ich habe einfach nur meine verdammten Plätschern verloren.

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Geige Leute und Lesben müssen wieder verheiratet werden? Und dann den anderen auf der Seite verheiratet werden?

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Wow, just the front. Ja, aber Seite zu Seite.

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Ja, er machte einfach das verdammte Piro. Dein Freund war so, hey, Kumpel... Ease off the Tercel. I just got rid of the Mitsubishi. I can turn this fucking car off. The last thing I need is a gay heel going through my windshield.

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Du kannst es verkaufen. Verkaufe es oder verkaufe es. Du kannst es jetzt machen. Wenn das raus ist, kannst du es verkaufen. Aber jetzt können sie es kaufen.

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Yeah, I mean, I think he loves the attention of campaigning. Oh, I agree.

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Ich glaube, das ist seine Lieblingspart. Du hast ihn gesehen. Er war elektrisch auf dem Mikrofon, Bro. Er liebt es. Er liebt es. Er liebt es, es zu zerstören, Alter. Er liebt es, vor diesem Publikum zu kommen. Nur fucking riffen. Alter, denkst du, dass dieser Arschloch in Beratungen sein will? Oder denkst du, er will mit den Nelk-Jungs sprechen? Ja.

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Wie er in den 80ern Pussy machte, oder was auch immer. Das ist das, was er liebt. Er will nicht zu Rekorden über Stats und Zahlen hören. Nein, er will ein Big Mac trinken, einen Diet Coke trinken und mit den Jungs fahren. Er ist wie Farrah Fawcett.

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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Cut the mics. Let me tell you a little something.

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Without question. That's the thing. I'm not going to sit here and tell you he's not fucking, he's funny as shit, which is, I think, why things are so, that's why he was able to sneak through. If somebody was saying the exact same shit with no humor at all, Es wäre furchtbar. Es wäre. Er sagt verrückte Sachen, aber es ist lustig und er scheint gay zu sein. Das ist das andere.

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Er ist ein New Yorker gayer Typ, der gerade rechtlich ist, glaube ich. Ist Trump gay? Ich meine, komm schon. Seine Mannerismen. Nein. Er verhält sich wie ein gayer Typ, ist das, was ich sage. Er sieht aus wie ein gayer Typ aus Queens. Genau. Er kommt aus der Queen. Er hat diese kleine Haare.

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Wir sind die Gays für Trump. Das war das Beste. Wir sind die Gays für Trump.

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Let them loose.

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Somebody whispers in his ear. Good to see you, boys.

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Ich weiß es nicht, aber hoffentlich niedrig. Ich versuche es da rauszubekommen. Ich versuche es da rauszubekommen. Und was meinst du mit niedrig? Du sprichst von 9,99? Yeah, maybe lower even than that.

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Just fucking spit and stay awake juice into the fucking audience. Oh man. I'm not going to sit here and tell you the guys. He's so fucking funny.

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I agree with you. The president doesn't have that much power. And if it wasn't for the Supreme Court, I would be like, who really gives a fuck? The Democrats didn't run any kind of coherent campaign. They don't want to... I hope... Ich hoffe, dass das etwas macht, weil, schau, ich, meine Politik ist weiter links als das. Ich bin nicht ein demokratisch registriert.

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Bernie ist der einzige Typ, den ich lange genossen habe, weil ich dachte, er wäre der einzige menschliche Mensch, der wie eine echte Person von Integrität war. Ich denke, Donald Trump ist einfach die Idee, dass er anders ist als Politiker. Das ist verrückt. Er ist ein reicher Typ, der hat, du weißt, er ist reich geworden.

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Yeah, and it's like, his dad, you know, he was like, his dad was a fucking slumlord. He's just a rich guy who's fucked over people on deals forever. He's, I don't like, you know, I have class issues, right? I don't, I tend to not trust super rich guys and I don't see how he's going to do anything different. I think it's naive to think he's going to be different than

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Ich verstehe nicht, dass ich dem demokratischen Verhältnis vertraue, aber es ist so, dass Trump lustig ist, aber er ist ein verdammter Billionär, der von anderen Billionären gepropt wird. Das ist, ich denke, er ist Teil des Komplexes, das unser Land umfasst, und ich glaube nicht, dass er anders ist.

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Die einzige Person, die ich mag.

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Ich meine, er denkt, du weißt, er war bereits, das ist das andere Schwierige. Er war bereits, wir sprechen über ihn, als wäre er eine schreckende Kraft. He was already fucking president.

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E545 Stavros Halkias

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That's what's weird.

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And that's why, absolutely, you're in power right now. God knows Joe ain't doing shit.

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E545 Stavros Halkias

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But you're right, I think probably $9.99. If somebody's like, I can get this or I can get some McNuggets.

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Yeah.

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It looks like he's just about to finish a fucking marathon.

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Unlimited ice cream and milk. That's why I agree with you. I think they made a fucking huge mistake in running him again. Wenn er die erste Zeit rannte, war es so, ich verstehe es, die Leute waren schockiert von einer anderen Sache als Trump. Also, nehmt ein fucking, nehmt ein middle of the road ass Democrat. Aber dann hätten sie einen offenen Primär.

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Ja, es sah aus, als wäre es eine verbreitete Sache. Die Leute könnten tatsächlich auf die Themen, die sie sich interessieren, wählen. Und sie hat das nicht gemacht. Und sie hatte sogar die Möglichkeit, wenn sie mit irgendeinem fucking... You know, I'm just pissed off. She didn't release any new music. Yeah, there was nothing new. There was all Biden remixes and nobody liked Biden.

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E545 Stavros Halkias

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You gotta fucking... A little production.

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I don't know that J.D. Vance... To me, he seems like a traditional just say whatever it takes to get elected snake, to be honest with you. I know you had him on, he was cool here, but he was a guy who said he hated Trump. He said some fucked up shit about women. I just think he's a... Venture capitalist guys are fucking worms to begin with. I don't trust JD Vance at all.

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I think he's a piece of shit also.

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I think he's a cut in the regular ass Republican that'll say any fucking fucked up thing to get into power. He sucked Trump's cock after saying he called him Hitler or whatever. And he made a complete turn when he realized it was politically advantageous to be on Trump's side. I think he also is just a run-of-the-mill piece of shit politician. Damn. Das mache ich einfach.

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Das ist das, was ich sage. Das ist das, was ich nie überrascht habe. Die Politiker, die ich überrascht habe, waren Obama, als ich 18 war. Und ich glaube, er hatte eine echte Möglichkeit, etwas zu tun. Und es kam heraus, dass er wirklich nichts gemacht hat.

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E545 Stavros Halkias

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Erinnerst du dich an diese Glas-Köpfe für Batman? Erinnerst du dich an diese? Das war krass. Batman, ich glaube, Batman Forever, was nicht ein guter Film war. Es war wie Jim Carrey. Oh, ich habe vergessen, dass er Batman war. Nein, nein, er war der Riddler.

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Ja, zumindest war das etwas, das war so. Und ich denke, ein Teil davon war, dass Obama einfach zu unerwartet war. Ich denke, wenn er ein bisschen mehr, weißt du, er wusste nicht, was er mit dem Senat machte. Sein Gesundheitssystem wurde komplett verdammt. Und das Universale Gesundheitssystem.

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Es war schlecht. Es war, sie haben es nicht.

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Aber er wurde überarbeitet, weil er dachte, dass er eigentlich mit den Republikanern eine gemeinsame Grundlage finden könnte. Sie sollten die Legislaturperiode einfach in den Mund genommen haben. Sie hatten beide Häuser damals. Und die einzige Person, über die ich aufgeregt war, war Bernie, weil ich glaube, er war tatsächlich in diesem Rennen im Jahr 2016. Er hätte cool sein können.

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Er hätte cool sein können, aber die Demokraten haben den Scheiß geschlossen.

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Und sieh, das ist das, was ich denke, diese Ideen verbinden Leute, weil er nur sagt, wie, schau, Wir haben Probleme zu beantworten. Es gibt echte Probleme. Wir werden nicht sagen, dass es gut ist, wenn es nicht so ist. Und wir finden echte Wege, um das zu tun, die jeder bekommt. Das ist echte Gleichheit. Er will jedem helfen, weil es nicht um kulturelle Scheiße geht.

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Es geht um ökonomische Scheiße. Und mehr Menschen werden durch die Leute am Top nicht beeinflusst. Und ich denke, das ist ein Message, das... Das kann jeder akzeptieren. Und ich denke, wenn die Leute nicht ideologisch auf die Dinge schauen, wenn man sie einfach über Probleme fragt, dann akzeptieren die Leute auf viele fucking Probleme.

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E545 Stavros Halkias

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Sie wollen ein Haus kaufen. Sie wollen Sachen verdienen. Und sie wollen fucking Healthcare bekommen. Wie viele Leute kennen wir? Ich kenne Menschen, die eine extreme Familie haben, die sich damit beschäftigen. Weil jemand krank wurde. Du verletzt deine ganze Familie.

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E545 Stavros Halkias

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Ich meine, es gibt so viel Geld in der Politik.

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Ja, ja. Sie hatten die letzten Kuppen. Oh, warte. Die, ja. Oh, ja. Du erinnerst dich an die? Oh, ja. Ich hatte die aus den Two-Face-Küppen. Aber ein Verlierer hat einen von diesen in der fucking Ballpiste zerstört. Und es zerstört. Ja. Die Leute waren mit dem umgegangen. Ja, das war ein ikonischer. Der Tommy Lee Jones. Das Film war fucking großartig.

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E545 Stavros Halkias

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Ich weiß, was du meinst, Mann.

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Ja, manche Leute glauben, Revolution ist die einzige Möglichkeit, es zu machen. Hey, Tony hat versucht, einen zu starten. Das war der Hauptgrund, wie Shane es auch gesagt hat, auf seinem Podcast. Es wäre so lustig, Tony zu blamen. Er würde sagen, du hast so hart gebombt, dass der Teil deines Kandidaten verloren wurde. Wie lustig wäre es, Tony den Rest seines Lebens zu erzählen?

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That's actually the thing I'm most pissed off about. Supreme Court is number two. After being able to mock Tony for the rest of my life. That's what I regret the most about the election. He was sweating. I sat there and watched it with him.

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Das ist fucking cool. Ja, unsere Infrastruktur ist so fucked, auch. Unsere Tränen funktionieren nicht. Wir brauchen eine hohe Freigabe.

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And they get a free smoothie for their trouble.

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That's a perfect example, though, of homelessness. It's like, give them homes. Yeah. We have the, we know what it takes. Like, make fucking apartment buildings. And like, that has been shown to work. And most people just don't have access. But there is all this weird, like, you will create non-profits to help the homeless that cost more than just getting them little apartments.

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E545 Stavros Halkias

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Ich weiß, ich weiß. Was sie tun sollten, ist, anstatt sie zu verabschieden, sie für Southwest-Miles zu signen. Und dann bekommen sie ein paar fucking Meilen daraus. Geben sie einen Southwest-Kreditkarten. Jedes Mal, wenn man sie von Texas nach New York schickt, zu fucking wo auch immer. Und dann können sie auf Verabschiedung gehen. Sie können ein paar Meilen, einige Punkte verdienen.

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E545 Stavros Halkias

808.248

Und der, nach dem mit Mr. Freeze, war noch großartiger. Sie hatten Joel Schumacher, der einfach so war. der gayste Mann aller Zeiten, er ist der Mann, er ist ein guter Direktor, aber er hat es so lustig gemacht. Diese Filme haben sich nicht so gut gemacht, als die Tim Burton Batmans, weil sie von schwarz und moody und cool und comicbookig zu wirklich campiest waren.

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E545 Stavros Halkias

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Oh mein Gott. War es ein Sparrow?

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Du trackst ihn. Du wirst ihn zurückhaben.

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E545 Stavros Halkias

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That's horrifying. Birds to me are unsettling creatures.

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The dirtiest surprise. Star-Wars Man, the new movie.

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Out on VOD right now. Go to Apple, Amazon, wherever you like to rent movies. Go check it out, please. I'm begging you. We got the calendar. We have a new tour coming out. The Dreamboat Tour. I really appreciate you having me on, dude. It's always so fun. This is my favorite podcast to do. It's so much fucking fun. Really, dude? I love it. Du bist der beste Riffwitz.

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Ich würde es gerne haben. Ich erinnere mich, dass ich nicht wusste, dass du aus Comptown bist. Das war so lustig, Mann. Du warst so wie, ich habe diesen Mann getroffen. Ich war so wie, es war ich, Mann. Das ist verrückt, Mann. Aber ich liebe das. Das ist großartig. Würde es sein. Wir spielen ein bisschen Clapton. Ich werde dich ein bisschen Gitarre spielen, während ich meine Dicken zuckere.

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E545 Stavros Halkias

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Das wird wie in alten Zeiten, Mann.

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E545 Stavros Halkias

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Es war wie Batman, der zu einem Dragbrunch ging. Ja. Die Leute waren nicht bereit für das jetzt, aber wenn man sie jetzt anschaut, You'll have a great time. You'll be like, wow, this is so over the top. But it's fun, dude. You know what I mean? They got jacked guys. They got sexy ladies just parading around. It's very fun. Alicia Silverstone's Batwoman, Batgirl.

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Nice. I don't remember that one.

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E545 Stavros Halkias

868.4

Batman and Robin.

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Well, they were actually part... Adam West was absolutely getting pussy in this era. He's like notorious for fucking and sucking. Really? Yeah, and I believe... With men too? I don't think men. Is that long pussy?

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E545 Stavros Halkias

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I think they call it that.

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E545 Stavros Halkias

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Because, dude, if you look at it, you know, wiener is just long pussy. Yeah.

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E545 Stavros Halkias

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Like an inverted... Okay, I thought you meant the ass.

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E545 Stavros Halkias

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He refused to shave his mustache, so they just painted it over. This is how little they gave a fuck about the Batman TV show. The guy was like, I'm not shaving my mustache. They were like, we don't give a fuck, man. He's like, I gotta play tennis tomorrow.

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I'm not shaving this fucking thing. But Burgess Meredith, who played the Penguin in this and also played Mickey and Rocky, I believe him and Adam West were absolute coos hounds. They were just fucking so much in these times. And by that I mean I saw one TikTok about it. And I love to think of that. Well, they didn't even have condoms at this time, did they? I don't believe so.

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No, they probably had them. But they weren't using them. Denkst du? Es war wie ein Luxus-Gut. Es war wie ein lustiges Ding, weil sie wahrscheinlich so hatte. Ich wette, du bist nicht wie ein Kaufer. Sie waren so, wie wenn sie ihren Arsch in die Schuhe, wie Intestine, nicht haben, um Kinder zu heilen. An einem bestimmten Punkt.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1012.813

Have dogs' brains evolved? Human brains have tripled in size since the beginning of the human family tree, which dates back around 7 million years ago. Wow. So our brains are getting bigger. See, this for me ties straight into like believing, if you look at an alien, right? Your usual picture of an alien. It's this body that has no definition, huge head.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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It's like, that's all, eventually that's what we'll turn into. It's like this, you don't need to use any muscle. Everything's there. It comes into your body through a tube, leaves out. You don't have to poop three times a week or day and on weekends.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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So she's used to once a week. Now that makes sense.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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We are coming to you live today from Austin, Texas at Media Pouch, where we're taping. And we are grateful today to get to spend time with this fella. He is performing in New York City this week. You can get those tickets. And he is one half of the superhero squad, Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast. He just reached five years of marriage.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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Cause I wonder if there's a, if there's like, yeah, I wonder if there's, if your body wants to have poop in it or doesn't probably doesn't.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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When you don't have it in you?

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E544 Matt McCusker

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Well, it definitely feels more of like an organized crime, you know? Really? Yeah. It's like more, it's just not, you're not just fucking showing up. It's not like just a, like just spraying bullets in the air, you know? It feels like... You just got that fucking John Wilkes poop. You fucking rolled up with one fucking purpose. So it's just like... Bam. Very organized. Very Japanese almost.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1125.024

Yeah. You feel it coming. You're like, I knew this moment would arrive. Fucking yeah. It's like you paid extra for the rapping. It's just very... Feels like how it's supposed to happen. Not somebody, the second they get a bullet in the gum, they just fucking do it.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1151.743

Because all you have to do is go back to sleep. You do not have to. Nothing in the world is saying, hey, poop now. Save yourself some time or whatever. Like, You can just. You're saying it's like a life hack to shit in the middle of the night. That's what some people think, dude. It's like, they think it's a life hack. I'm like, what? It is not a life hack.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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But the crazy thing is sometimes you'll get up, so then you'll see you sit down, right? You sit down. And then the problem is you start to doze off, right? That's the worst.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1216.467

It's very sad. And then here's the worst thing that can happen to you. You know, there's a video of a guy like his house caught on fire or something. He was on the, um,

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E544 Matt McCusker

1224.353

he was on the uh toilet and then his but his leg but his legs had fallen asleep and so then he tries to run out and he can't no yeah just you serious that that happens a lot if you're sitting there for a long time your legs will fall asleep yeah that that is a problem yeah i've really i got a nasty hemorrhoid one time i'm sorry the subject matter.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1243.112

We don't talk about this kind of stuff much, so I think it's okay.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1246.534

Because people should be okay talking about it. It's not crazy. Yeah, it happens all the time.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1266.885

Well, yeah, your body, it's crazy. Cause your body literally wants to get out of your ass, which is like, It's like you would think your body's happy, like the insides of you, but they're like, nah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1287.076

That's true, man. It's kind of bullshit. Yeah, man, I couldn't believe, yeah, I guess I just, I guess I just, I can't believe how much some people do. Because to me, pooping feels like you have to earn it.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1302.182

You know, if you're just, if somebody just, you know, yeah, I'll go shit or whatever. I got some time to kill it. That's crazy to me, dude.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1315.869

Franz Ferdinand or whatever. The Prince of Royals or whatever. What are you even... I used to be able to pee.

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E544 Matt McCusker

132.207

And I'm happy to get to spend time today with Mr. Matt McCusker. I went to a steam room today.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1373.291

Dude, I would always get nervous in the locker room or whatever that my penis wasn't good or whatever.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1378.413

And cause my brother also was an asshole. He took a marker and write like not good next to my penis. And I was like, what an asshole. And so I was always like super paranoid, you know, but I would always like try to like shake it against my leg to get it fired up or I turn around in the locker room or whatever, you know?

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E544 Matt McCusker

1416.935

There's hogs everywhere, huh?

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E544 Matt McCusker

1423.597

Bill Clinton.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1429.759

Well, it should be where if you squeeze your balls, that stuff goes into your wiener and makes it bigger. That's what God should have done.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1437.942

Or make your balls square. Like, I always wanted to stack my balls. I always wished that they were squared or whatever.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1445.808

When you mean business, you're like, all right, motherfucker. Stacking them up would be nice.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1448.931

Just roll them. Daddy's stacking in his sack right now. So he's about to get an ass whooping. And then I'm going to go shit this weekend. Stack nuts would be decent.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1467.175

That fellow's an architect, isn't he?

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E544 Matt McCusker

1472.258

You know, I've been dealing with it a lot, I'll say it. It's dehydration. You know, my arms are just, whether I've been flying or you go to work out and then you're on the go and next thing you know, you're feeling chapped or you're just feeling like your body's just made out of just dang baby paper. And it's tough to deal with. That's dehydration. And what I use to help me is liquid IV.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1499.349

It's simple. You just crack open a packet of liquid IV, pour it right into a bottle of water, put the cap back on, shake it up, baby. And dang, daddy's quenched. That's how I do it. One stick plus 16 ounces of water hydrates better than water alone. And you can feel it when you're drinking it. It feels thick. It feels just luscious. It feels good when it's going in you.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1524.569

Stay hydrated through the holidays with Liquid IV. Get 20% off your first order of Liquid IV when you go to liquidiv.com and use code Theo at checkout. That's 20% off your first order when you shop Better Hydration today using promo code Theo at liquidiv.com. You know, a lot has changed with our merchandise store online. Over the past year, you know, we've tried new products and different things.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1557.771

And and if you are familiar with e-commerce or have an e-commerce business of your own, I'm sure you know how things can change and sometimes you have to scale. Well, ShipStation has helped us. That's the truth.

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E544 Matt McCusker

157.269

Yeah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1571.636

ShipStation helps you achieve exceptional shipping efficiency with a robust all-in-one order fulfillment system that integrates with over 180 of the most popular e-commerce platforms, marketplaces, and carriers. That's right, we started out shipping out of a basement.

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E544 Matt McCusker

159.25

Yeah. Have you been in there?

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E544 Matt McCusker

1591.159

A buddy of mine, Kevin, and his brother, and he was on the bottle a bit, but they would ship the shirts and then things evolved and ShipStation really came to the rescue. Scale your e-commerce business with the shipping software that delivers. Switch to ShipStation today. Go to ShipStation.com and use code Theo to sign up for your free 60-day trial.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1617.879

That means throughout the holidays, you can try it out. That's ShipStation, S-H-I-P-S-T-A-T-I-O-N.com, code Theo. Happy anniversary, dude. Thank you, man. You just had a five-year anniversary. Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Did you guys do something special for it? Or how does that kind of work? Do you feel like you have to?

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E544 Matt McCusker

165.293

Oh, no. It's attached to the gym. It's like in the bathroom or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a room of steam.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1690.655

When you're telling me that, yeah, it's cool. Yeah, five years of marriage is very, that's a big deal now.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1716.813

I can only imagine that.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1725.959

Do you look forward to seeing your wife when you get home and stuff?

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E544 Matt McCusker

1740.967

Look at that, dude. That's cool.

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E544 Matt McCusker

175.098

You walk in, it's just steamy as hell. I wonder if there would ever... I wonder if that'd be a good business if you had like a... another business that also at the same time was a steam room. That's what I'm saying.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1750.87

Is there ever moments where the kids favor one or the other and that hurts your feelings?

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E544 Matt McCusker

1755.551

Oh, bro.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1806.688

And it's just like, I'm getting big speakers and shit.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1821.007

What is it? Yeah, I want, do you have a key you feel like? Oh, let me see. In the United States, the percentage of marriages that end in divorce varies by the number of times a couple has been married.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1836.156

Wow, so first marriage is 41% of first marriages end in divorce. Second marriage is 60%. Third marriage is 73%. Yeah, fourth marriage is just a man. Yeah. Yeah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1858.048

Yeah, do you have a secret? Do you have something that you feel like you've kind of honestly learned or you've been like, this helps, or this is something that I had to adjust about myself or anything like that?

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E544 Matt McCusker

1927.677

right that makes sense we i guess you have somebody that you i guess you were like okay i trust my spouse i care about them so i'm going to listen to some of their feedback

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E544 Matt McCusker

1961.108

Yeah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

1974.689

And it's like, how do we, how should we parent? Yeah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

20.25

We've got some spring tour dates that I got warm for you here right off the griddle. All these tickets you can get through theovon.com slash T-O-U-R. This is still the Return of the Rat Tour. And we will be coming to Toledo, Ohio, Pittsburgh, Eugene, Oregon, Kennewick, Washington, Seattle, Victoria, B.C.

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E544 Matt McCusker

200.982

Well, Radio Shack was, it was almost like where you almost just go there to get, ask the guy a question and then you would leave. It became that place after a while.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2001.782

Yeah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2013.25

You've been fucking just picking your skin off in the garage and fucking drinking PBRs back there. God, dude. Yeah. That's so wild. Being loud, but being quiet is the craziest behavior.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2075.99

Exactly. So what are you going to do? Now you're just, everybody's like, fuck everybody?

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E544 Matt McCusker

2080.075

Not everybody's fucking dope as hell, dude.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2130.198

Yeah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2142.488

It's just the way it works. No, bro. I mean, people have to... How do you bridge a topic? Say there's something you want to talk to your wife about. How do you kind of do it?

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E544 Matt McCusker

215.789

Yeah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2158.278

Just like violent Irish, like the Irish hello.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2165.682

What I do now. Freckles are flying across.

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E544 Matt McCusker

218.951

Yeah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2210.647

Then they're also not thinking that you also wanted to catch me off guard. And that's two things you're doing. You're telling them something that's going to upset them. And then you're also surprising them.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2252.743

Yes. It's tough to figure out. I mean.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2257.162

i don't know anything the question then is like how much flack do you take like how much stress do you take before you're supposed to call it quits there's no real answer on that right like yeah where do they yeah how does that go yeah i'm watching some friends and stuff go through divorces and it's really challenging but i'm also watching friends stay together who are trying to just battle it and figure it out because that's what they want the story of their life to be you know

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E544 Matt McCusker

2287.784

Yeah, dude. We had a dude on our street when I was growing up. He tried to burn his family down like three fucking times. And his wife stayed with him every time. I was like, what are you guys doing? Like, that's... For real? Yeah. Like, you are a dumb lady. Yeah. And everybody knew, you know, everybody knew how much he didn't like her.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2305.999

I would say.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2308.3

Yeah, just fucking, dude, but animals, you know, people are animals. You know, raccoons will eat their young just so another, so they'll go into heat so another raccoon will come and have sex with them again. What? That's crazy behavior. They'll eat their babies to get piped down? Now I'm not saying what city this is happening in, but I'm just saying that, yes, dude.

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E544 Matt McCusker

232.222

Yeah. It's kind of bullshit. Yeah. They don't know. And then they'll walk over to another guy. That's the craziest thing. Like, let me ask my, and there'll be like a coworker or whatever. And then they'll go over there and then the people will just start laughing or the guy will slip. And then they'll just walk out of the place.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2336.379

Yep. Male raccoons, also known as boars, can kill a baby raccoon in a practice called infanticide. This can happen for a number of reasons, including sexual dominance.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2353.928

not to want to make love.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2364.54

I'm turning this living room into a soup plantation right now.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2376.788

Have you seen that raccoon that plays dead and he put that broomstick over him to make it look like it hit him? You haven't? Find that video, bro. Unbelievable. That's crazy. I didn't know that, though. This is the fuck.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2394.76

craziest thing i'd ever seen in my life they're so raccoons are rad dude i love raccoons they're very un uh yeah they're like fucking mafia squirrels dude they are serious about yeah they're dude they're bear family which is crazy yeah keep looking forward and find it if you can for me it's a video yeah that sounds awesome um what else has been happening man how's things been i got this aura ring so i've been tracking my biometric data that's been kind of fun

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E544 Matt McCusker

2422.265

Nuh-uh.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2425.649

What? I've never even seen that. Can you take it off or you can't?

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E544 Matt McCusker

2430.474

So it's just a ring and it brings up the information.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2438.263

Dude.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2464.659

This is somebody you meet on Craigslist for sure. Dude, we got the guy from Craigslist coming on. What? Craig. Do you really? Yeah, next week. What the hell? Pretty excited about that.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2479.905

That's crazy.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2481.786

There's got to be a ton of kids out there that happen because of him.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2487.309

Bro, I met a woman once. We met at a bar, right? Met her off of personal encounters or whatever. Met her at a bar, figured it out. I figured that if she wouldn't be, who knows? I figured she might be a man or whatever, but hopefully she wasn't. Nice. That was kind of my attitude. And then I go there, bro, smoking hot, bro. What? I'm like, you got to be kidding me.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2513.011

This lady's going to kill me or whatever, drink my blood or whatever.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2516.114

So going back to my place, she covered anything in my place that had any light closed, all covered the VCR thing, like in no light at all.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2536.5

I don't know.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2537.18

You got to get to know her, dude. Meeting somebody and then letting them sleep in your house really is a crazy practice.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2550.646

So she covered every source of light and then had sex with you. Yeah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2559.765

I don't know. It was, I was willing to do it. I knew that, but I didn't know much else after. I just knew it was very interesting. I couldn't tell if she didn't want to see me, if she was scared. Yeah. Maybe she was nervous that there was a camera.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2575.752

I don't remember it that good, but it was pretty, it was fine. I guess it was, you know, it was, you know, norm, you know, pretty. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like,

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E544 Matt McCusker

2601.189

No, people are getting attacked. A buddy of mine was buying some walkie talkies or trying to sell some walkie talkie the other day and he got fucking jumped.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2607.631

Yeah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2624.415

we were like we had a fireplace i remember the first time i'd ever had a fireplace so i was like we got to use this me and my friend were sharing a living room dude it's my buddy's apartment so we had like put beds in the living room and we had a fireplace and they're like let's make it nice that's pretty cool yeah it was really exciting did you ever tell people that it was your spot but your boy was just crashing

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E544 Matt McCusker

2652.527

That's what I would say. He's on leave from the Army. And we even had a fake Army bag that was just stuffed with sheets and we put it by the extra bed. Just to make it look legit. So one day we're like, we need firewood, right? So that's what you have to have. So we look on the thing, free firewood, right? Or something. And it's like 13 miles away. We just moved to LA.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2673.06

It took us an hour and 30 minutes to go get it. It was out in like Diamond Bar.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2677.524

and we drive all the way out there and it's just like somebody had like literally taken like a big shiffer robe or something and just batted it together with a bat beating the shit out with an axe and so we just chipped up fucking wood right so it's we have we put it into my buddy's fucking hatchback just fill this thing with wood bring it all the way back dude we burned all that wood in like 12 years of kindling yeah

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E544 Matt McCusker

2701.274

it took like an entire day and that sucks oh la was so hard in the beginning man we bought a refrigerator off craigslist yeah we get it home this was on my birthday and it wouldn't go in the fuck we were literally running against it and trying to push it in dude i remember leaning against it and just fucking crying dude i i had to move myself one time and i was trying to get a

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E544 Matt McCusker

274.338

Yeah, it's true. They, yeah, they call them all frontline workers and stuff.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2746.6

And life just wins and you just can't do it anymore.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2755.643

Yeah. No, it sucks. Dude, my buddy, I used to sleep under his bed for a while and he, ah. would have girls come over and they'd always go to the restroom or something before they were going to make out. And he'd come in there, he'd wake me up and he'd be like, don't fucking, but he'd wake me up and tell me to don't wake up.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2774.297

Like I wasn't going to wake up. I was being asleep. Yeah. He'd be like, dude, don't fucking wake up. I got a chick over. Yo,

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E544 Matt McCusker

278.022

Yeah. And a lot of them were, a lot of them were not heroes. I don't, I mean, some of them were, I guess, I guess actually if you're, DoorDash was the heroes for sure. Yeah. Nurses, remember they were crying and everything. They were scared.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2805.322

was it like the loft style set up and you were just gonna no but it was a nice bed pretty high okay and so yeah i had probably i would say 20 inches under there not bad did you get scared when you woke up yeah probably 19 inches uh a couple times you start to you you start to adapt

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E544 Matt McCusker

2841.716

yeah well it was and i think look he did it because he was trying to make sure i knew he was hooking up with chicks you know he always like he always like did that should have gave him a little just so he would know just from the bottom just push a little with my legs yeah give a

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E544 Matt McCusker

2864.0

That would have been cool.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2872.428

Dude, anybody that has sex for more than probably six or seven minutes is out of their fucking mind, right?

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E544 Matt McCusker

2878.954

I'm praying about this. I'm like... Even to say it, I felt afraid to say it.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2898.61

Yeah, it's all... Yeah, it's like, what are you doing? Go shit.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2910.438

Yeah, on a par, like on a... Six? Perfect.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2915.561

Yeah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2918.262

Yeah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2919.682

You have to definitely... Yeah, I would get so nervous. Sometimes I would get off and I'd be like, what was that? And I'd run out of there. Just shit like, you know, oh, you hear that or something? I'd run out of the fucking room or something.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2932.793

Like if I would, you know, ejaculate early or whatever.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2938.718

What the fuck was that? And I'd just fucking run out of the room. Come back like 10 minutes later with my clothes on, just not even saying anything.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2964.658

But that's, I think the new move is not like just coming for just fall, like just party coming or whatever. Like people are just coming for fun. I think that's kind of, those days are over. Yeah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

298.284

Right.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2980.229

It's like, I want to just, I want to be the guy that kind of, you know, ejaculates like with a purpose or whatever.

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E544 Matt McCusker

2995.223

I think I'm dude.

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E544 Matt McCusker

3011.551

And it feels like abuse.

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E544 Matt McCusker

3016.792

Yeah, you feel so much shame. I feel a ton of shame happens for me from watching porno and watching myself jerk myself off.

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E544 Matt McCusker

3034.66

if i can do like a memory beat those i feel pretty guilt-free yeah i went out in the shower just kind of dude i had a blind dude that live with for a bit and we would i saw him watching uh hand porn or whatever it's called no reading like braille erotica craziest thing ever man really beautiful really i mean gay i don't know i mean like yeah i i mean it was it wasn't gay it was like you know

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E544 Matt McCusker

306.432

Yeah. Oh, that's a good point. Yeah. You're, yeah. You're just talking to somebody really fast like that. You're like, I gotta get, I gotta put his talking. I gotta get out of the room.

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E544 Matt McCusker

3061.997

But it was pretty cool. It was like, I'm trying to think of what movie.

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E544 Matt McCusker

3068.122

Well, it was getting pretty crazy. You know? It's crazy. But it's just interesting to see, you know? It's almost like watching the Nature Channel.

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E544 Matt McCusker

3077.185

The Braille Superstore romance novels.

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E544 Matt McCusker

3087.918

Baby, turn around and let me see that sexy body go boom, boom, boom. That's stupid. No, that was pretty sick.

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E544 Matt McCusker

3107.837

Is Eli, does he just get carried along by Peyton? Is Peyton the one with all the pizzazz and Eli just gets kind of carried off?

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E544 Matt McCusker

3120.526

Eli won one, yeah, with the Giants. He beat the Pats, yeah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

313.479

Yeah. That'd be nuts, man. Yeah, dude, I wonder if there'd be a good steam, like if you could double, you know, because I like double style businesses like that. For sure. You know, like a shoe store, but also what? Yeah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

3134.156

Oh, Eli was pretty wild, man. Yeah. Eli is definitely funnier to be around when I'm around the two of them. Really? I haven't been around him much.

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E544 Matt McCusker

3141.683

Maybe that sounds like humble bragging. It's not.

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E544 Matt McCusker

3144.385

But Peyton went to UT, so you see him sometimes like in Nashville or in Tennessee.

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E544 Matt McCusker

3205.225

But what if you fucking, what if you start tripping in your head and thinking that somebody's like, some kid is like plotting and shit?

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E544 Matt McCusker

3219.978

You think you would set a kid off?

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E544 Matt McCusker

3230.368

Like, oh, Damien's up to some shit.

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E544 Matt McCusker

3246.55

Mr. Walk-em-down Crayola style.

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E544 Matt McCusker

3252.194

You can't die, dude. Some fucking kid.

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E544 Matt McCusker

3262.542

Yeah, that's better. Let's frame it like that.

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E544 Matt McCusker

3285.934

Yeah, when I was young, we just had like a MILF with a hammer running around. We were lucky, dude.

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E544 Matt McCusker

3293.48

Yeah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

3295.201

We did.

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E544 Matt McCusker

3302.807

Listen to Desperado on your fucking AirPods.

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E544 Matt McCusker

3314.921

Walking tall machine gun man. That would be crazy, dude.

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E544 Matt McCusker

3333.911

You shit once a week?

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E544 Matt McCusker

3339.115

Bro, these people should have their own tumbleweeds, right?

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E544 Matt McCusker

3342.858

yeah dude just throw it on a string just fish it yeah a hero a hero should have a couple tumbleweeds in front of them dude true just fucking give it i would just kick it as i walk or even it's some twinks dressed up like in hay and stuff that'd be nice that would be nice spinning around like a tanto but yeah that was fucking killing me dude i kept fucking with my wife i was like bro wow i love that's the one thing we went to chicago and she was like

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E544 Matt McCusker

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Your wife is going to be holding the blood into your body, dude.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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It's time for it. It is. It's time. Dog grooming and maybe sporting goods or whatever. There you go. Or jujitsu.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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Do you think a wife likes it if the husband has a gun on him? Definitely. These days, for sure.

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And these, they were all like, you know, they just do it because they feel like somebody has to promote what would be idealistic. I mean, that's what a lot of like, I guess, I don't know. I mean, a lot of people's view, it's just like this. Ideally, yes, it would be awesome. But some of them, it's just not practical. It's like, like I have friends that like, um,

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will talk to me about like, well, you guys have guns there in America and stuff like that. And it's just dangerous. And why can't you guys figure that out? And people wanna have their guns. It's like, there's no way to not have it. The bad guys have guns. Already, it's too late. If you do a gun drive, the good guys are just gonna give their guns away. I know. You just have to have them, dude.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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And what are you gonna call a policeman who does, if he doesn't have a gun, he's not coming to help you. He's done. Yeah, exactly. What do you think if they're gonna drive by and honk at you guys while you're getting beaten or shot in the yard?

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E544 Matt McCusker

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Right, but that has to go away quickly because there are people shooting each other all the time. Oh, yeah, the problem- So you have to-

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E544 Matt McCusker

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E544 Matt McCusker

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I'm not into that.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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on the election stuff? I don't know if I talked to you about that. It was a lot of listening and learning. Was it a lot of stuff? Yeah, but we worked together to make it as effective conversation as we could. Nice. But it was really cool just learning about his philosophy of how we're, as a species, we are evolving. And over time, we're just advancing.

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E544 Matt McCusker

374.266

Yeah, yeah, you could. I mean, that's the new jujitsu of gone, I guess.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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So how those affect you personally and how you...

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E544 Matt McCusker

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But it's like, I wonder, you know, sometimes I wonder like if, if I guess if I had a superpower, maybe it would be, I'd want to do jujitsu. I'd want to know every jujitsu.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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It's a good point, actually. I think a lot of people did. I mean, I don't know, dude. I was a Democrat. I mean, I got so angry when they... did that stuff to burn, you know? Like, I mean, my dad was an old man. So I, to me, it also registered like somebody taking advantage of an older person. So that shit, like at that point for me, I was just like, what's going on here?

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E544 Matt McCusker

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And then I am super concerned about like the, big pharma and medicine just using us all and not caring that we're human beings. Like, yes, there's a lot of medicine that's helping people, but also like everybody shouldn't be on a, on a medicine, you know?

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E544 Matt McCusker

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The wheelchair gum or whatever.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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Yeah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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It's like, so I liked RFK. He was kind of the guy that I thought was neat.

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Yeah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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And then I think, I don't think we have the same parties. I don't feel like it's Democrats and Republicans anymore. There's something else happening.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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And it's going to keep morphing.

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E544 Matt McCusker

390.323

I mean, just fucking gift wrap a dude.

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E544 Matt McCusker

3907.68

George and Peterson.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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Well, that's the part that makes you start to think, do they just hate like white men? Yeah. For me, it's like in three generations, I always say like beige power, like everybody's gonna be beige, right? In three generations, everybody's gonna be like, you know, Ben Simmons, Blake Griffins, you know, penguin people, you know, mixed. And so it's just kind of weird.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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How do we want to operate that in the meantime, right? But then I think when people get scared,

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E544 Matt McCusker

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um especially with like threats of war uh fears they start to they want to gravitate towards whatever is their seemed like their people yeah like prison prison's the same thing you go to prison everyone's you know it's all like based on race and all that stuff yeah and then but but everybody is a jelly roll fan you know that's true that's true which is pretty crazy dude well dude it's it's like

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E544 Matt McCusker

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Yeah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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Cause it's like, yeah. And that's another thing. I mean, that's one thing that's kind of gets worried, worried about Trump is like, is he going to be a, is that, is the,

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E544 Matt McCusker

4110.229

Oh, watching that stuff?

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E544 Matt McCusker

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It's not good. And it's just stupid. I mean, I don't know. I don't care. Like, I just want, like, I don't know. Some shit just started to get really weird. I think, well, Kamala wouldn't come on podcast. Right. I thought that that was weird. It was like, and we asked and they said, well, do you guys give final edit? Right. And they asked, did Trump ask for final edit?

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E544 Matt McCusker

413.406

Yeah, bro. That'd be a good superpower. I think to be just know everything. It was just, it was in you. Yeah. What would you have? You think if you had a superpower, you think fly? I really, yeah, I'd fly. It'd be awesome. Would it though? Think of how, dude, if you even stuck your head out of a window when you're going super fast.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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No. They didn't ask for anything. They shouldn't, dude. They didn't ask for anything. J.D. Vance showed up. Dude, there were snipers on the ice. I stayed up late trying to get some questions together and think of some things. Yeah. And we invited everybody. Those were the, them, Bernie Sanders, and Mark Cuban came on. He was very much like a Democrat or left-leaning. But he gets something.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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I didn't realize he gets, if they won, he get, there's a business incentive, you know? I didn't realize that. Some of these things I'm learning as I go, right? It's typically with billionaires. Yeah, when they're like,

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E544 Matt McCusker

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I'm like, oh, people aren't just out there hoorahing for no reason. There's some reason.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4190.464

Yeah. But we had common ground and like just different thoughts and stuff and definitely inspiring to be able to talk to people like that. But I woke, so I wake up that morning. And it was like an hour until the thing. I was like, I had to get in the frickin ice bath. I got to make sure I'm in a decent.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4203.853

Try to do something to get high.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4209.48

Yeah, man.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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Wow. And neither can he though, which is great.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4219.749

He'll laugh at it. He will. He'll laugh at it. Dude, watch. Suddenly he fucking fixes his own voice, dude. That's what he did.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4236.883

He's been in, yeah. But yeah, but so, but I wake up, there's fucking, I go in the ice bath. There's like secret service ever. They had drape, put drapes, black drapes in front of the house, right? They shut down exits off the interstate. I had no idea. You shut down the whole city. Bro, I had no idea. there's snipers on the roof, on the roof, full tactical gear. I'll put pictures in the YouTube.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4260.012

Holy shit. And then, oh, my neighbor, right? I fucking look at my phone. He's like, what's up? Are you? And then he put blank, like just underlines. And I, they thought it was one of those things where like a suicide in the house, like Like they were sending people in to get, like I was taking my own life at home.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4283.979

Well, he sent like four messages. And so at that point, it was like already 11. I slept in. I was up to probably three, just like getting my questions ready. So I was like, I have to make sure I sleep. And he's like, dude, we were so scared, man. He's like, cause we saw them. Like they thought they were rappelling into the home. And I was like, what?

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E544 Matt McCusker

4304.966

What the fuck, dude?

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E544 Matt McCusker

4309.228

Oh, and they had a van outside that some weird term on it, like threw people off.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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Yeah, I think people thought, but that's what people thought.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4319.514

It was morgue-esque, you know? Yeah, it was like so gruesome that they were like, we gotta- But they also had this like Stan's Bakery banner. So like it was definitely, they kind of like play this old cat and like, what is kind of fucking happening here?

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E544 Matt McCusker

4334.382

It was super crazy, dude.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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There's some wake treats. Yeah. Just so there's some viewing of the body. Hey, first come, first serve, guys. Yeah. Dude, that was crazy though. That was one of the craziest things that had ever happened, for sure. But he comes in and I was like, hey man, thanks for coming. I was like, you know, just want to let you know, we don't have any, we're not like a gotcha type of show.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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Just looking forward to having a nice conversation, which is what I tell anybody. And he's like, whatever, man, it's all good. Let's have a chat. And that was it. And it was fun, you know? It was interesting.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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I don't hate when people lose anything. You know, it's tough when there's a winner and a loser.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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It just shows you that it's must. But it also, then if that's the, if say, okay, they spend that much on a campaign, right? Both these sides spend a ton of money. Oh yeah. But if there's just like these powers in the background doing things, it's just like, why would they, if it's not even real, say the office isn't even, you know, it's just for show.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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It just seems like you wouldn't waste that much money. So there must really be.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4445.29

Power in it.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4482.911

Here is a setting question. So they rebuilt their own set, I guess.

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E544 Matt McCusker

449.409

This thing's broken, huh?

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E544 Matt McCusker

4496.303

It's like, just go there. Right. I wonder if she may have a... thing where she doesn't like going, like sometimes I don't like sleeping at people's houses or whatever, you know what I'm talking about? I wonder if she has that.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4511.395

Could be. Which is where people should stay. People who are like transient shittiness.

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E544 Matt McCusker

455.133

God, that would be my superpower, I think, would be able to get in here. No, I think my superpower. Hold on a second. I do need to take a second.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4558.84

Oh, people are shitting at top speed. It's crazy. That's the craziest thing to me to ever is when somebody shits at full blast speed. Like, are you out of your mind? You're going to hurt yourself.

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E544 Matt McCusker

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But bro, there's also a part of me that I feel like, do you think we can get more together or do you think we should just have two Americas? Do you think?

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E544 Matt McCusker

4658.328

Oh, first, you know, White House chief of staff in history.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4670.86

Oh, interesting.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4679.741

Yeah. Ben Carson, I think he's going to put back into, I like some of his ideas.

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E544 Matt McCusker

468.725

Dude, that angle might have held, bro. True. A lot of when you lock your hips in, dude. Very arm bar. True. Jiu-jitsu. But, uh... Yeah, my superpower. I think mine would be if you went into the bathroom not being able to know if somebody had pooped in there recently.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4685.163

Oh, rise and shine. Carson.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4687.384

He's dead asleep. Super.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4691.385

His blood, bro.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4695.686

It's just like a synth drum. There's not much popping, dude.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4721.878

Well, it's definitely interesting to see that everything's getting diverse. What was that tweet that Adam McKay had? I thought that that was something when I read that. it resonated with me. I think... I don't know.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4746.17

Who would have guessed lying about Biden's cognitive health for two years? That shit made me so mad, dude. Just taking advantage of an old man. Like, it's just not cool. You know what I'm saying? His family shouldn't have allowed it.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4758.046

You know, it's just not cool because then you're lying to him also, right? So you're placating him. Like, you're just, you're using, it just, it seems like cruelty to a human, right? Refusing to do an open conversation for a new nominee, never mentioning public health care, embracing fracking, and year-long slaughter of children in Gaza. That's...

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E544 Matt McCusker

4777.014

That to me was one thing that definitely was like- Yeah, they blew it so hard. I mean, again, if you- Some of the stuff, I don't know, but the children in Gaza thing, and I think just taking advantage of Biden, it just felt like, is this party really doing this? Or are they, what's happening here? Yeah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4866.755

Yeah, because really what he did over the past years is just investigate. I mean, he asked so many questions about everything to all types of people. So you learned so much.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4894.399

He said, dude, I was in there yesterday and it was like, I was just like, I feel like I've been kind of losing my mind this week.

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E544 Matt McCusker

49.71

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E544 Matt McCusker

490.818

But it's like the second you walk into a bathroom, you can tell if somebody's dumped recently, if somebody with perfume did dump.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4901.044

really yeah i don't know what was going on i just was like getting like a lot of paranoia it's the worst yeah and uh i don't know if i met it i don't know if i missed a day i don't know what happened but i was like fucking thought i was going crazy yesterday it's kind of crazy we have days when you start asking people like am i okay you know that's a weird thing yeah that is it's so hard to explain but i'll just be like walking sometimes and i'll just get like a feeling where i'm like

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E544 Matt McCusker

4929.022

You're like, yeah, I'm just kept spent the whole day. And it was like the whole day was like that, man. And then I had to go in there and I felt very nervous. So then you felt like you're under a microscope.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4938.43

And, um, yeah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4944.616

Yeah. Usually go to AA meetings. Uh, that helps do yoga. Uh, I got hurt a couple, like a month ago. Some guy squeezed me after a football game. I was in, when Vanderbilt beat Alabama, I was there. And this guy just squeezed me so much. What? And then all the players, some guy on the sidelines. No. Yeah. Some devout just brother had really squeezed me.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4965.751

I mean, like I was a fucking, like he was going to brush his teeth with me. That sucks. He got it. Yeah. I was just like, ah, where, where'd it get you? Over here is ribbed. Oh, fuck, yeah. But then all the players had just won and they were like, wah. And then everybody squeezed me, dude. Yeah, they're fucked.

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E544 Matt McCusker

498.38

I don't want to not know. Yeah, I don't want to know anything. So that'd be my superpower to not have... Because you can't...

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E544 Matt McCusker

4983.889

For like, yeah, for weeks. And so then my mental starts going down.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4987.01

That's us right there.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4989.11

That's Cheryl Jr. right there, I believe.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4992.431

We got that coach Clark Lee. Oh, that's Skinner Jr. right there.

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E544 Matt McCusker

4995.54

damn i think it's pretty heavy too man those coolers aren't yeah decent amount of water in it nice we got the lady too we got him he's cool that's awesome that's fucking awesome damn so you just got squeezed by like the strongest dudes in the country yes yeah that's what happened and then so yeah but anyway i'm yeah i'm not whining about it but it's just like you can't do anything bro you go to open your refrigerator and that suction on the refrigerator oh that hurts yeah when your ribs are fucked up it hurts to breathe every breath you're like

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E544 Matt McCusker

5021.69

Yeah. And then you're pushing on the side of your body while you're doing everything. So you're walking around like this all day. Like you're fucking like one of those guys like putting away a pocket watch or something like in the twenties or whatever, like that little handicap peanut that they fucking sent out there.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5045.869

Oh, that would hurt. So yeah, just that, it was just, and I was just kind of losing my mind, dude. So then you go in there and you're like, am I saying crazy shit? Fuck, dude. Started to get real paranoid. Yeah. I will say this though. I think the person that won that election, I think the person that changed it was Dana White. Really? Undeniably. That's, why do you think that?

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E544 Matt McCusker

5064.461

Because he got Trump in the podcasts. He made it happen. He, he did it. Yeah. He, he, is just you, he did that. He made that happen.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5082.186

He's the one who like talked to Joe about it for years. It's been in discussion.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5086.471

I don't think Joe Rogan was going to do that. And then he did. Yeah. You know, and, um,

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E544 Matt McCusker

5094.319

Yeah, Dana made all that happen.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5114.646

I don't know if it hit a million.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5129.534

812,000.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5130.554

But that's just a clip. Now, here's the problem with calling daddy.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5144.946

Or at least people come in to experience the person, you know? True. Yeah. Definitely interesting. You can't watch the full episodes because they're on Sirius. Is that right? Sirius?

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E544 Matt McCusker

515.21

Yeah. Fuck man. Bro. And some people do dumps right on to, they won't even flush the toilet at an airport or whatever. I know they'll do dumps right on the P. Oh yeah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5158.392

Yeah. So you can't see the full episodes of these podcasts either. So you don't know what really.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5177.599

It's my hope. Well, I just, I don't know. I just, I don't know what's happening. I feel like there's a changing of these parties because you have former Democrats who are now Republicans, but they'd also don't even get along with half of the people in office.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5193.15

People are sick of politicians overall. Big time. APAC and lobbyists like have infiltrated. what it seems like politics overall. It's like, for sure. And people, you can't hide the information from people anymore.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5252.228

They've got to get a couple more brothers in the party, too, I think.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5294.819

But you also, I think there's ways you can do it in an organized pattern. Yeah, true. So you're properly vetting people. And then they used to have a system where people could serve, they could, you could almost adopt a homeless person or whatever who came across the border and you were their sponsor. That's cool. I'm super cool. So then you as a member of your country, right?

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E544 Matt McCusker

5314.629

Or that you were born into, sure, it's a blessing, right? Easy for us to say that. But then you get to be,

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E544 Matt McCusker

5321.232

part of the uh of immigrate you know it's like there's an actual connection there so you know i don't know that's a good i like that idea though yeah it's easy to say stuff let's change the topic what else can we talk about but i was saying too then you can kind of like set them up and like contest against each other oh yeah well people have had that i've heard that material for i think i'm like doing like a um

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E544 Matt McCusker

5343.704

American Ninja Warrior to come over the border.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5358.208

In like a fun way, you know what I mean? Totally. And you raise money for helping people that are coming over.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5369.704

That'd be a great... Dude, I had this idea for a game show, right? So check this out. You get two like kind of lifeguard chairs, right? And you have... You put like kind of cellophane, like kind of like some light blue plastic around them, right? You can still see through it. And at the bottom of the... at the bottom is a scale, right?

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E544 Matt McCusker

5390.964

And you get two guys who have eaten for like a week, haven't gone to the bathroom. Whoever can do the most poop in a given amount of time wins a car. Or maybe not a car, maybe a motorcycle.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5414.087

That'll birth people out. But if you see the scale going up or something, it'll at least excite people.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5420.768

I think you want to be able to see it, but you want to see it vague. So you want it to be like opaque. Like, yeah, I see.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5428.252

Yeah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5431.074

That's what I mean. Frosted glass.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5434.475

Thanks, man.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5457.926

This is incredible. You've been fucking compromised, homie. You're mailing poop of your own to someone?

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E544 Matt McCusker

5499.686

That was what it was. It was that one. What if they told you where your stepdad lives? We'll tell you.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5514.215

We recommend X, Y, and Z. And once you, once you, you'll, yeah, you almost want to buy it so they don't tell anybody about your poop. I feel like you'd be like, don't tell anybody about poop. I'll buy the vitamins.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5566.158

Were we just talking about medicine?

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E544 Matt McCusker

5570.799

Yeah, we probably should have, huh? I feel like people are over it. But it's also, it's like, oh, what was I going to ask you? Do you think, oh, look at this. Is this like a new slave or whatever?

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E544 Matt McCusker

5593.459

Where is that? It's in Virginia, is it? That's like... I am not getting that, dude.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5624.708

Ugh.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5626.609

That thing's savage. But then your kid will like, you're like, mow the yard. Your kid's like, I don't want to. My thumb's hurt. Yeah. That's true, actually. That's kind of bullshit. Yeah, dude. I'm trying to think of what chores we had. Oh, dude, it was ridiculous, man. Dude, do you think it's weird?

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E544 Matt McCusker

563.111

If you tell the person next to you, like, I'll be back in a little bit. Hold my calls. If you say that.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5641.42

This is something that doesn't get talked about a lot is like, where do stepdads go when the divorce happens, you know? because they kind of don't get to see the kids anymore, you know?

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E544 Matt McCusker

5660.362

That has a pool at it.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5671.347

But it's kind of crazy. You never think about that because a stepdad gets involved in a kid's life for a couple of years for better or for worse. But then they have to just peace out.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5691.122

You can call me whenever you want, but yeah, I'm going to go look for some, but like the first couple of years you kind of check in and then you like forget one year. It's gotta be feel weird.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5704.633

But do those stepdads meet somewhere and like have a, do they, they meet at Sbarro.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5719.886

Hey, what's up? I'm Tom, 2015 to 2017.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5731.797

Yeah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5748.172

Yeah, sometimes I have a dream maybe that I meet a lady and she already has a kid maybe or something.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5768.739

It's perfect.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

5772.761

My buddy just had his third kid and he's a black man and he has, and it's funny, the other guys were like, dude, you're not even a black dad until you have three kids.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5783.286

like that's crazy bro that's hilarious like two kids for a black guy that's nothing bro that's so funny that's child's play so now he's official yeah now he's really yeah like dang all right so you for real about it he's really banging yeah it's like the first two were just mixtapes and this is like a real album he's finally signed yeah What else?

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E544 Matt McCusker

5806.924

Any other thing else in the news going on or anything else?

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E544 Matt McCusker

5836.964

Bertram Russell?

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E544 Matt McCusker

5850.431

Wow.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5850.891

Bizarre. Why? Just because they were finding ways that you could not prove it kind of thing?

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E544 Matt McCusker

5874.782

Right.

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E544 Matt McCusker

592.906

It makes me so feel uncomfortable. It's like, just tell me.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5929.295

Yeah. Remember, it was very, there was like this Shakespearean, like I'm taking my life. Now you're just like a, you know, you're just like a 13 Reasons Why fan or whatever. You know, but it used to be kind of, there was something very romantic about it in a way.

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E544 Matt McCusker

5954.968

That's, dude. This guy, first person to use Switzerland suicide pod found was strangled. And where are these at? They're not the airport, are they?

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E544 Matt McCusker

5999.054

Oh, she was trying to help it or something?

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E544 Matt McCusker

6018.285

Because I guess if you go that far, if she lives, the product is no better. She would have yelped the pod. Yeah. Two stars.

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E544 Matt McCusker

6046.019

He's already on Raya listening to Zach Bryan.

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E544 Matt McCusker

6053.081

When you do it, I've been at an airport, dude, and if you miss your La Habra, I'm like, I'll fucking go to heaven.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

6058.884

I'm not waiting. Fuck Akron. Send me to heaven. Put me in that bitch. I've been that furious at a point where it's just like, let's just shut it down.

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E544 Matt McCusker

6100.41

I'd have like a little soda with me.

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E544 Matt McCusker

6117.219

He's just the model. I guess they obviously do not have a. there's no budget for the model. I'll say that, you know, but I think it was a woman that used it. She had cancer and she wanted to go use it. And they just hooked her up. Yeah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

6139.616

That's true.

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E544 Matt McCusker

614.218

Oh my gosh, dude.

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E544 Matt McCusker

6168.796

Bro, that'd be crazy, man.

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E544 Matt McCusker

6172.68

You guys want to party, huh?

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E544 Matt McCusker

6179.005

Well, some lady ovened themselves at a Walmart. You see that? No. Some lady wandered into an oven. They were doing, was it hide and go seek or what happened?

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E544 Matt McCusker

6194.431

And I believe she passed away, right?

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

6200.74

Ooh. Or cooking. Let's all say burning.

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E544 Matt McCusker

6203.862

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cooking.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

6206.384

Oh. Yo. Please say the investigation is complex. That's unreal.

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E544 Matt McCusker

6216.55

In Canada, yeah. I guess they have a walk-in oven. That's not a good idea. It'd be hard to stay out of it. I bet it smelled good in there. Bro. True. I mean, this is harrowing.

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E544 Matt McCusker

6230.079

Man.

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E544 Matt McCusker

6230.7

The woman who was an employee of the store was located a large walking oven. Important to note, investigation has not yet reached a point where the cause and manner of death have been confirmed.

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E544 Matt McCusker

626.252

That's crazy.

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E544 Matt McCusker

6262.32

Yeah, this is, yeah, you shouldn't, we don't need to walk into an oven. Oh, dude. That's a terrible design. That's a horrible idea.

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E544 Matt McCusker

6275.265

Yeah, but it's almost like, oh, now you need an oven. You open the door and it has one of those signs that's on the ladder that's like, do not step here. Like, no shit, dude.

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E544 Matt McCusker

6294.351

Someone throws you in there. That's what they're saying.

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E544 Matt McCusker

630.174

Oh my God, how much do normal people have? It's three times a day, three times a week. That's what I do three times a week.

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E544 Matt McCusker

6312.177

This guy's turn, huh? This is nice. That's awesome. This is why you need other countries, dude. Yeah. People are like, I don't like diversity. You're out of your mind.

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E544 Matt McCusker

6331.025

You show me a honky that can do this.

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E544 Matt McCusker

639.778

So we're both in, I guess, the range. I didn't know people were doing it multiple. That's crazy. Fucking, what are you doing? You're wasting, how much of your life, how long does it take to even do a poop on average?

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E544 Matt McCusker

6455.301

Yeah, I'm black as hell. This is a fucking mirage, shorty.

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E544 Matt McCusker

6476.377

I would like to teach arts and crafts.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

6479.982

Paint. wire things, those fuzzy long things. What are those called? Pipe cleaners.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

6486.349

That'd be nice.

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E544 Matt McCusker

6488.611

You just, they put out a bag, we don't know what we're fucking making. Some kid made a noose or whatever. You're like, yeah, he's doing good.

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E544 Matt McCusker

6501.485

float stay positive it's the embarrassing thing too when like things are going well it's like i'll still get like bummed out and depressed and i'm always like dude you're such a fucking pussy shut up so i've been trying to just like be even killed and just you know just work on little projects and that's it yeah i think some of that's normal too it's it is tough though because certainly people have things a lot tougher you know and it is tough too sometimes when your life is going good it's like not to let your ego start to take over that's that's a thing that gets really scary oh yeah dude

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E544 Matt McCusker

6529.156

Cause your ego is just like this thing that's kind of grows without you, you know, really knowing what's going on. You can be watering it without even realizing it.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

6616.958

How'd you get wiped out? How'd you get wiped out?

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

6658.279

Did you go in there? You wear a mustache or anything?

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E544 Matt McCusker

6665.782

Is there a chance to get it back?

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

668.83

So it's more of a road. than it is really like a relaxing thing. I guess, who made poops relaxing?

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

6766.835

Were you at a Cancun or something?

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E544 Matt McCusker

6799.347

Oh, that's just a nightmare, dude. We sold weed for almost four hours one time. Fucking. It's scary. It was the scariest shit ever.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

6807.117

I fucking almost killed the guy. I started accusing him of fucking shit. We had like, we literally had $200 worth of fucking weed. It was just alpha dog immediately.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

6823.609

Everybody's a fucking narc or whatever.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

6828.07

At one point I would wake my friend up and be like, are you fucking watching me?

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

684.988

12 seconds is crazy. Who could even do 12 seconds? Oh, that guy that, who's that bull rider? Damn, look, they say it's relaxing because it stimulates the vagal nerve. You got, if you ride a bull, you could probably poop very fast. There you go. JB Money right there. JB Money, what do they say it? Mooney?

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

6937.434

You're hiding shit in your ceiling. Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of, everything just gets scary. You hide and stuff. Yeah. We had like a couple of.

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E544 Matt McCusker

6959.991

I want somebody that's fucking high to get you your shit back. And then everybody starts knowing you're the weak guy. So people knowing you're the weak guy, there's something cool about it. But then there's also this fear. Cause you're like, well, I'm going to get busted.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

6971.44

Then you hear about other people getting busted and you know, it's just, and then it gets closer to you and you're like, don't snitch or whatever.

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E544 Matt McCusker

6976.724

And I wasn't going to do it.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

6978.846

We would bury weed in our, we had like seven dime bags we were trying to sell, right?

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E544 Matt McCusker

6992.374

I know.

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E544 Matt McCusker

6996.696

It was breaking horrible, dude. That's who we were, dude. It was just, it was the dumbest fucking thing ever. I'm in the front yard just calling my buddy a bitch.

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E544 Matt McCusker

7026.477

I feel great.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

7029.501

Dude. I bought some steroids once my girlfriend, while I was at away from her house, I was doing something, found them broke and threw them all away. She took your roids? And when I got home- Did you already cycle on them?

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E544 Matt McCusker

7043.456

No, I think I had been on steroids at the time and I was not happy when I got there, okay? Yeah, dude. It was, do not, look, if you find your boyfriend's steroids, okay? Don't touch them. Just, yeah, bring it up to him. Do not get rid of them though because it can create a man and become violent, you know? I didn't, but you could see how I could- It could be a wild day for someone.

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E544 Matt McCusker

708.78

Yeah, he passed away though.

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E544 Matt McCusker

7099.705

An immediate muffin.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

7111.755

Yeah.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

7113.016

How long were you on the roids for? I was on and off for a few years. I remember the first time I ever did them. Pills or did you inject? Shooting. Dang. That's awesome. Shooting three pointers. One time, uh, One time, my buddy Sean, he sold me some pills. He actually passed away. He died. He drowned. I think he tried to hide from the police underwater.

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E544 Matt McCusker

7137.48

Fucking drowned.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

7141.422

Yeah, you just... Can't do it. Yeah. You know, it's, you don't think about it when you're, he was so high that he just thought I can hide underwater.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

716.985

He's on Instagram. He's good.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

718.906

Yeah, my bad.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

7192.169

Yeah.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

7198.432

Really?

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

7208.817

Well, those Kansas City Chief fans were partying with their buddy where he left those four dudes dead on his porch or whatever. That was fentanyl. Weren't they doing fentanyl, I think? It seemed like something was crazy, you know?

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

723.228

He'll do whatever he wants, but... Look, after you've ridden a bull, I think... Being gay is easy. True, true, true. That is true. Yeah, after you've ridden that bull, being gay has got to be like, that's for children.

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E544 Matt McCusker

7242.153

Can you imagine to mail your shit? You're just some dude at a fucking house, just pounds of shit just showing up at your door every day. You're just counting fucking money all day.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

7255.78

Your wife's like, what the fuck, dude?

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

7304.953

I know it's scary.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

7316.516

Yeah.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

7328.94

Yeah, man.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

7331.101

Yeah. And congrats. You guys, this podcast is still doing great, dude.

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E544 Matt McCusker

7366.996

Yeah, Ben, good for you, man. And if you take a walk, sometimes I'll notice if I take a walk with a friend, we have such a better conversation. Big time. Or if I take like, one of the things I like to do now, sometimes if I'm even going on a date or something, it's just like, let's just go take a walk. It's like, you kind of get to know somebody, it's chill, you're in motion, like...

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E544 Matt McCusker

7429.351

The dogs, man. They'll be excited whenever he gets back, though. Oh, yeah. You can hear them barking. They're ready.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

7435.394

They're ready for him to be back. Tickets at mattandmccustard.com. Matt, good to see you, man. Bro, thank you so much. Yeah, man. Have a good one. You too.

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E544 Matt McCusker

754.393

He's guessing your weight while you're fucking.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

78.37

Go through our website so you're not getting those heightened ticket prices. And thank you so much for your support. And we do have new merch items back by popular demand. The Hitter Hunting Club Collection. We've also got the Hitter Bait and Tackle Tees. Those are new, baby. If you like to rod and reel them, baby, get all these and more at theovonstore.com, the only place to get our merch.

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E544 Matt McCusker

813.847

Well, imagine, yeah, say if some people used to get their pets high or whatever, you know, and then watching your dog, like my buddy's, it would get his dog high, I guess. I think this is when it was legal or something.

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E544 Matt McCusker

823.713

And he would get it high and then it would start to poop and it would fall over. It would just... It couldn't even... It fucks their legs up.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

835.242

Really?

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

851.615

Oh, that's cool.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

855.461

Yeah, he was chilling. And it would be great to see if dogs started using shrooms or whatever, just to see how they kind of started to put new things together. That would be pretty fascinating.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

880.193

That's pretty cool. How do dogs do on mushrooms? Can we bring that up actually? I can't believe this isn't a huge study or something.

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E544 Matt McCusker

890.838

Yeah. There's always that stone kid in your high school. We use that laser and he's like, yeah, yeah.

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E544 Matt McCusker

900.137

Funny doggy psychoactive shrooms.

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E544 Matt McCusker

915.606

That's awesome, dude.

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E544 Matt McCusker

921.81

Roxy had found wild shrooms growing.

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E544 Matt McCusker

954.593

But this kind of shows you if humans, like some people say that there's the stoned ape theory or whatever, you know, that if that humans ate, that apes ate mushrooms and that's how we eventually evolved. You could start to see it with this dog. Like, you know,

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E544 Matt McCusker

969.645

Yeah.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E544 Matt McCusker

994.587

According to current understanding, the human brain roughly doubled in size over a period of around 2 million years. There we go. With the most rapid expansion happening between 800,000 and 200,000 years ago, marking a significant brain boom.

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#584 - Retired Las Vegas Police Sgt.

1182.629

Opens the door.

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#584 - Retired Las Vegas Police Sgt.

174.182

Yeah.

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#584 - Retired Las Vegas Police Sgt.

1897.154

Okay.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#584 - Retired Las Vegas Police Sgt.

3233.085

Yeah.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#584 - Retired Las Vegas Police Sgt.

4415.84

100%.

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#584 - Retired Las Vegas Police Sgt.

4831.664

Yeah.

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#584 - Retired Las Vegas Police Sgt.

6291.392

Yeah.

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#584 - Retired Las Vegas Police Sgt.

8879.452

Yeah.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

1147.015

We heard it was equally freaky. Yeah.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

1163.91

Yes. We had none because our family couldn't watch it with the rest of their family. Did they tell you that they couldn't watch the episode?

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

1339.161

For instance, like when my mom is around, we probably do kind of, you know, make it very subtle. Yes. Just because my mom's from the South and just who she is. Yes. Miranda's mother and the way that that dynamic is, we're not like... one leg over the other kissing and smooching.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

1360.688

But we are, you know, necking in the couch and like a kiss here and there that I feel like my mom would judge if she saw. So I think it depends on where you are in the family.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

1383.323

Oh, she left. She was like, this is actually my line. She left and she was like, what do you think you are, a man?

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

1402.149

So hot, so strong, so powerful.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

1434.906

Oh, I wish I'd have known that. I won't do that anymore. Miss Teresa, I got you.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

1463.338

I would go both ways. I would say maybe some are like that, but I'd say the other way, which is like, I've never seen this before. And it makes me actually touch on another topic of like, I always have this conversation, which is just a fight pretty much. about gay couples in the public and showing public affection compared to straight and not being like, hey, we're straight, we're kissing.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

1487.127

And so when I have this conversation, I'm like, we can do it too. No, it's not right. I said, well, what you're doing is promoting, but what I'm doing is an agenda. I'm confused. What's the dynamic of that?

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

1562.775

Yes. When it's masculine, it's like, don't look at that. Don't look at that. It's a little too close. But if it's femme on femme, you know, like, if you guys went in, it's like Emmy award-winning Oscar.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

1709.105

I had adult sleepovers, not in a sexual manner, but actual fun sleepovers all the time before I got married. And then when we got married, it's taken a minute. My wife is like, why do they have to sleep over? Tell them to go home. I'm like, got it.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

1739.695

Because it also means that I got drunk and I get to spend the night like on the couch. I wake up and be like, ah, we're 17. I mean 21. We're 21.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

1765.826

Well, why don't we tell the story from our perspectives step by step? Let's do it.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

1770.967

I'm going to start. I got a call to host a karaoke night in gay land here in L.A. Yes. And I was just working, just doing my thing. I'm like, oh, I'm out in the gay world. It's fantastic. I'm loving my boys, loving my girls. Yes. And then I see a golden ray from across the room. Oh, wow.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

1830.657

Obviously I was not doing a good job as a host. She gave no fucks about me up on stage.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

1860.006

That's cool. So she came in after I was hosting. I saw her. I obviously went to the bar. And there we are. Okay, got it.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

1868.149

Drew her, see, threw me there. Got it. Got it. And then talked, had a conversation. I was with my friend, Carlicia. She was with some people. And I was like, you're cute. Is that your opening line?

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

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Listen, she's hot. Yeah. So for me, I was like, shwing.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

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Because that's her nickname, Biggie.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

1961.149

But in my head, I know I probably said you're cute. Because that's just some bullshit that I would say.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

1974.251

Wait. My smart car was white with a jean convertible.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

1979.973

Sexy. That's fucking hot. Named. named Sneaker High Top. I love what's happening.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

2014.038

So that's really... I'm in work mode, club mode, like... You know what I mean? I'm so sorry. Oh my God, Mackenzie. There's somebody at my door.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

2025.174

We have to talk to you offline about ring. Yeah, we have ring. We have ring. You know, that's what it is. But the second date is when things started to really like, got it. This is somebody that we should be talking to for a long time.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

2062.41

And it's just dipping the toe. Yes. I think also who I am and what I've been a part of and the different relationships that I've been in. I've had moments where you just stare at people and you're like, oh my god, I love you. Go on a date. And it's like, this lasted four days. I'm done with that. So I definitely learned...

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

2078.843

how to just maneuver through the situation and then allow things to grow naturally itself. And I think that when we got to that second date, that's when I was like, okay, got it. Because that was the crayon date, right?

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

2092.226

Yeah, talk to us about that. The crayon date.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

2136.193

They were pebble crayons. So it came in a bag and it looked like it was just like a bag of crayons because I'm seven.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

2187.29

No drawing. Not at that moment, but what happened afterwards was that I got a call from a friend of mine who was throwing a party up the street, and I was like, you should come with me. It's my friend's birthday party. It's like hidden. It's off of La Brea, hidden in the corner. It's really cute. And she was like, I don't really do parties or whatever.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

2203.726

And I was like, well, we'll come up with a safe word. When you want to leave, we'll leave. No worries about it. Like, I'm not tripping. I need to come. This is my play brother. What was the safe word?

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

2246.085

And so we get there and there's a pool table there. And what I loved about that date, like she'll remember it was a Monday. I don't remember if it was a Monday or not. It was a Friday. Cool. I loved the fact that we created our own pool game. Like we sat there, we found the corner because I didn't really know anybody at this party. Do you remember? Yeah.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

2267.164

I don't remember what that shit was called. Shooters. It was called Shooters? Oh, you made up a game.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

2308.272

It was easy. It was easy to have a conversation. It was easy to play. I love games. I bring crayons to a date. You guys, I love the. You're fun. Childish nature of things. And I like to keep it that way. Yeah. And she was down for the cost. She also, which. I don't know if you'll see today, but her sense of humor is dark and dirty. Incredible. Perfect.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

2327.043

Because we have a game for you later.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

2493.943

see yourself grow through that moment um where we just bought a house and we're decorating thank you we're very excited about it we're decorating it and when you were saying um i can't believe you know i'm here i'm doing that and it feels so straight tangent you guys but you guys are used to it yeah please you know what i don't like tell us beds i think the look of a bed is so straight i think for sure what part of it

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

2515.598

Just like the headboard and the, it's a bit, like there's nothing cool to it. Like I want to see what a gay bed looks like. This is a great, yeah. My bed is so good.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

2611.742

Thank you. Yeah, we still have an appointment for the dining room table. Fun. Okay.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

2620.067

What kind of dining room table do you have? We've got to put things down. Yeah. Put the placemats down. It's going to get wet.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

2698.817

Yeah, that's why I bought them from the top.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

2723.375

It's a Yorkie. His name is Quinn. Yeah. Can you spell that for me? Well, it's Quinn with a no U-Q-I-N. Quinn. You know, technically that's chin, but we're not going to go there.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

2736.041

Quinn. Do you have an upstairs-downstairs? We do. We have an upstairs-downstairs. Babes, answer her question. Sorry.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

2751.588

I've been in public life my whole life. If I'm performing, I'm thriving. That's your child. That's your baby. Exactly. He has a chicken leg up the street. That's what he needs.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

2769.082

Oh my God. That's so funny.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

2823.403

There is a boundary. Toes only.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

2949.647

I think that's for sure. I would say that. Yeah. I think the libido thing is a real thing as you get older and like chemicals and changes. I know that for me. TMI. When I first came out, my libido went away, because I felt like a secret of mine was gone. Whoa.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

2967.575

Yeah, it was really weird. Anytime something massive happens to me that the world finds out about, my libido goes away. Holy shit. It's very weird, and it's hard to slowly come back. For sure. It requires a lot. And I feel like with our marriage, like we definitely enjoy ourselves, but then there's a lot of work happening and there's a lot of travel and there's a lot of mental.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

3000.246

It's like dog years. It's like dyke years. It's dyke years, without a doubt. One to seven. You know what I mean? Yes. And so right now we're in our fourth, fifth year, and that's like crazy. There's so many conversations happening to figure out our language for each other, to make sure that we're supporting each other well and moving forward.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

3020.422

That I think sex happens, but it's not in that blissful state that's going to happen when we've fully figured out, okay, when I go to the left and you go to the right, everything's fine. We're figuring out our things, but the lust for each other has not left. Yeah. It's...

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

3039.256

It's building stamina for those big explosive moments. Building stamina is powerful. Sorry, go ahead.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

3138.882

She loves the TikTok. straight moment.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

3144.747

And I'm entirely opposite. Like my parents, not to get too far involved, but like I learned what not to do in a relationship and they didn't give me any relationship advice. If I think if my parents had it their way, I would have never gotten married. I'd have been single my whole life and just been working.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

3160.823

So me getting married, not me getting married, me dating, I created my own ideas of what would work for me and what would work for me in a relationship. So when I was in a straight relationship, I would go up to my guys and be like, you get three cheats. Incredible. And they were like, what? I'm like, you get three. I do too. Three. You down? Down? Good? How early on was this?

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

3181.732

Oh, within the first couple. No, no, no. After we said we were boyfriend and girlfriend, I'd be like, you get three cheats. And so do I. If you want to go out, let me know. Strap it up. What's up? Because I knew how men were stereotypically. And I just didn't want to give them that. So.

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

3196.656

every relationship I just kind of like gathered these thought processes and my view of marriage I think is a little bit broader than what other people might think you know and it's I felt bad at times in our marriage because my wife is like you have to sleep in the bed you have to do this I'm like boo I love you I come home every day I'm over here buying you presents not on holidays but

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

3217.047

okay the other days holidays you don't get a present because everybody gets a present you're not special anymore on valentine's day we don't acknowledge each other but on you know but on tuesday on tuesday friday and monday on february 14th we're not allowed to hang out but on february 15th it's on yeah but i also like was i'm not a fan of valentine's day i was always single singles awareness day i just and i kind of still live in that this was the first valentine's day i got you a present you like cried over

Two Dykes And A Mic

#306 - Queer Supremacy with Raven-Symoné & Miranda Maday

3385.752

raven yes 100 and so it's like get out of your own way miranda and just don't or her purse always on the kitchen dining room table is just her way of showing that she feels comfortable in this household and just get out of your way raven this is so real i that's a six thousand dollar perfect that painting i'm gonna be selling it's gonna be worth ten yes in your dream yes exactly we need to start with the original it starts with a dream

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

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Sie ist... Sie würde es so lustig machen.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1025.897

Ich kenne sie gut genug, dass es nicht seltsam wäre. Es wäre seltsam, aber ich kenne sie gut genug, dass es nicht seltsam wäre.

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Yeah. It's like how like when you have like your second kid, you like for your first kid, give them the sign that says like big brother, big sister. That's like literally what we do.

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Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

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Aber es war definitiv wie, holy shit. Das wäre ein unideales Ding, das zu tun wäre.

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Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1050.418

Ja, ja. Nein, danke. Was ich nicht machen wollte, ich habe Julie getextet, ich wollte nicht, dass ich verliere und du das siehst. Ich fühle mich gut, die Energie ist gut. Ich wusste nicht, ich war wie, was? Keine Zähne bis jetzt. Keine Zähne bis jetzt.

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Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1073.155

It was so nice of her. It was so nice. So thank you. Above and beyond.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1097.227

Housekeepers are also not babysitters. Babysitters are not housekeepers. Vice versa. Both ways.

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Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

113.66

Yeah. So we like make up holidays just so we can like be in unison.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1142.929

I feel like you're being PC with this take.

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Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1163.798

Nein, ich würde sagen, dass ich mir, wie ich denke, ich stimme mit dir und ich stimme mit dir in einer bestimmten Weise. Ich stimme, wie ich liebe, wenn Menschen über und über gehen. Was das über und über ist, ist für mich anders als du. Ob sie die Dishs in den Kühlschrank legen oder ob sie etwas anderes machen, ist egal. So viel wie der zusätzliche Eindruck da ist.

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Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

124.539

Ja, als ich erwachsen bin, war die USA wirklich das Coolste. Was Amerikanisches war, wir würden über die Grenze fahren, um nach P.F. Changs zu gehen. P.F. Changs war fucking luxuriös. That place was like, that was the best Chinese in the world. Yeah, we drove two, two and a half hours up to like Bellingham, Washington. These were little PFs.

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Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1282.304

Yeah. I like that you're taking it outside of putting the dishes in the sink and much more about like reading the room of how can I be helpful? And yeah, it's just like, I envision, I don't know if I should say this, but like I envision that one of the babysitters will eventually become an intern for you.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1309.711

Und so ist es so, wenn du rein kommst und du siehst, wie die PR-Taschen sind und du sie organisierst. Und es ist eine gute Balance. Und deshalb sage ich, lese den Raum. Du willst nicht überstehen, aber du willst auch nichts tun. Ja. Ja.

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1356.412

20 Minuten. Aber um klar zu sein, das wichtigste Ding.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1364.995

Ich bin glücklich. Alles klar.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1385.592

Well, our daughter choked.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1401.652

Ich fühlte, als ob wir den Punkt gemacht hätten.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1437.347

Ja, ich würde gerne wissen, woher Beat a Dead Horse kommt, weil mein Instinkt ist, wenn du ein Pferd fährst, dann kippst du es oder wenn du sie fährst, dann wippst du sie. Und so ist es, wenn es nicht, dann ändert das sich in, wie?

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1482.925

Ja, aber ich denke, es bezieht sich darauf, dass man es nur so hart schießen kann. Und an einem Punkt gab es einfach keinen Punkt mehr, um es zu schießen. Und es war einfach so.

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Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1501.68

Willkommen zu PC in a Pod.

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Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

154.445

We'd go to the outlets, buy sneakers. Oh my gosh. Yeah. When Krispy Kreme opened, over the border, right to Krispy Kreme, grade A donuts.

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Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1593.88

Ich denke, eines der wunderschönen Dinge von einem Kind mit jemandem zu haben, ist, dass du sie siehst, die eine neue Rolle der Verantwortung aufnehmen und du siehst, dass sie ein Niveau von Liebe und die du nicht wussten, dass sie vorher existieren könnten.

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Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1624.528

Und weil du sie siehst, die neuen Rollen aufzunehmen und die physische Seite davon und die emotionale Seite davon aufzunehmen, siehst du sie in einem neuen Licht, welches dich ermöglicht, mit ihnen noch mehr verliebt zu sein.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

165.874

So you... When Chipotle finally got to Vancouver, like, or Canada, we created a new national holiday.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1657.053

Ja. Ja. Aber... Die Frage war, wie habe ich meine Gefühle zu dir verändert?

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1666.858

Und das erste Ding ist, die Art, wie ich dich um Tate kümmere, hat mich mehr lieben lassen. Die physische und mentale Bedeutung, die du in deinem Kind genommen hast, hat dich lieb gemacht. Hat mich mehr lieb gemacht. Also, ich sehe, was du, die Verantwortung, die du genommen hast, die Liebe, die du geben kannst, und die physische Bedeutung, all das kollektiv.

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Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1694.813

Es leuchtet einfach, wie ich sagte, ein neues Licht, das mich mehr liebt. Und ich denke, während all das war, Ich habe es nicht erwartet, dass man es von 10.000 Fuß erwartet, weil man es leise hören würde, bis man es auf einem Tag-zu-Tag-Basis sieht. Ich hätte es persönlich nicht erwarten können.

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Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

174.431

Es war eine Lüge. Oh. Es war so ein großer Tag, als Chipotle aufkam, wie Linien um die Kante.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1743.217

I love that question. It's a good one. The day before you gave birth, a mentor of mine called me. And he said that he said, I'm going to give you one piece of advice. And that piece of advice is tomorrow is not your day. It is her day. Und also sei da für sie. Und zweitens, sei nicht besorgt, wenn du keine sofortige Verbindung mit dem Kind hast.

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Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1787.47

Für sie wahrscheinlich auch, weil es einfach aus ihr heraus kam. Aber für ihn persönlich, und dieser Junge ist ein toller Vater, für ihn hat es Zeit gebraucht. Es hat ein paar Jahre gedauert, bis die Kinder aktiv waren und so weiter und so fort. Und er sagte mir, dass ich mich nicht auf mich selbst verletze, weil viele Leute sagen, dass sich das, als sie geboren wurden, alles verändert hat.

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Und das war nicht so. Also habe ich mich damit befasst.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

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So in terms of how I actually felt, going into it, like yes, the day was all about you. And then once she was born, like my initial feeling was all about protection. Und weil sie so fragil war und das ist wirklich, das war die zentrale Emotion, die sich über die ersten zwei bis vier Wochen erinnert hat. Okay. Und interessanterweise nicht viel mehr. Aber in etwa vier Wochen später.

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184.094

Eventuell macht es alles seinen Weg nach Norden. Aber wenn ein Restaurant-Konzept losgeht, dauert es lange, bevor sie in Kanada expandieren.

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Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1858.94

Ich fühlte, als hätte ich wirklich angefangen, eine Verbindung mit ihr zu bauen. Und diese Verbindung ist jetzt offensichtlich super tief, wo es fühlt sich an, als wäre sie eine Ausstattung von mir. Aber ich denke, dass diese Verbindung auf uns gebaut wurde, Dinge zusammen zu tun. Also begann es alle, weißt du, diese paar Wochen mit uns, mit uns auf Wanderungen in den Kaffeeshop.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1883.329

Und jetzt, letzte Woche, sind wir jeden Tag auf der Straße gegangen. Und je mehr wir zusammen sind, desto mehr verbinde ich mich mit ihr. Und also, wie... Abendessen. Entschuldigung?

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1899.991

Naja, das Essen ist für uns ein wunderschöner Punkt der Verbindung. Ich habe die Reise durch die Erfindung von Essen mit ihr geliefert und sie zu New Foods eingeladen. Aber um es zusammenzubringen, die ersten vier Wochen waren meine Emotionen die Schutz. Und das hat sich wirklich in Verbindung gesetzt, als wir angefangen haben, Dinge zusammen zu machen.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1927.819

Und jetzt fühlt sie sich wie ein totaler Ausdruck von mir aus.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1943.688

Ja, es geht wirklich nur darum, Aktivitäten mit ihr zu machen.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1948.798

walks we did dinners there for a while out of we take her for dinners but now cook her dinners the thing we have started is every tuesday cooking her more of a grand meal um and yeah i i i'm pumped to like keep finding new things to do with her you never viewed it as like giving me a break right like you never viewed it as i'll take tate so alex can have time off you viewed it as your time with her

Two Parents & A Podcast

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197.884

I would say the largest and most recognizable Canadian brand is Lululemon.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

1991.866

Das wird lustig klingen. Sie ist sehr freundlich zu sein.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

2001.712

Sie hat eine sehr gute Freundschaft. Sie ist sehr positiv und lacht. Wenn sie auf einen Weg kommt, macht sie den Weg mehr Spaß, weil sie viele schöne Geräusche erzeugt. Ich weiß, das ist verrückt zu sagen, aber...

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

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Wir waren ein bisschen fertig mit Restaurants. Und jetzt sind wir wieder in der Mischung.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

205.548

Aritzia? Before Lululemon, it was Blackberry. Blackberry the Phones? Yeah.

Two Parents & A Podcast

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2141.625

Ja, die Anzahl der Zeit, die ich mit ihr verbringen kann, ist sehr überraschend. Ich hätte gedacht, dass, um es klar zu machen, du bist der Rückstopp. Wenn wir sie kümmern müssen oder wir nervös oder besorgt werden, dann bist du definitiv... the backbone that keeps it all together.

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That was a big one for us.

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Because that's like the most. But even like the first time she ever freaked out, four or five days in, I remember you taking her right up to the room and calming her when everyone was like, kind of what's going on. So, while you were definitely like, the backbone of her and her security. I'm definitely, yes, surprised at how much time I can spend with her and enjoy spending with her one on one.

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And whether that's like when you went out of town or just like hat like having a day with her like i i feel like her and i've gone to the soas pool just the two of us for like four straight weeks and sometimes you come and meet us and other times like you don't it's great we kind of have this thing going on sunday mornings you take her and then i come later yeah you you know you deserve um

Two Parents & A Podcast

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Yeah, but Tim Hortons is like...

Two Parents & A Podcast

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Sie wird nicht in der Tasche hungrig.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

2273.18

Okay, gute Frage. Wenn ich darüber nachdenke, was es bedeutet, ein Anbieter zu sein, denke ich, dass die erste Sache, auf die die meisten Menschen aufstehen, die finanzielle Seite ist. Aber für mich ist es wirklich, ein Anbieter zu sein, in einer kompletten und multidimensionalen Art und Weise. außerhalb der Finanzen. Das ist das, was emotional da ist. Das ist das, was physisch da ist.

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We called it Timmy House too, Jules. What did you call the drinks? You call them Ice Fraps? We go for Fraps.

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Das ist das, was aus einer Energieperspektive da ist. Und es ist auch das, was finanziell unterstützt wird. Es geht darum, das ganze Bild zu sehen und sicherzustellen, dass ich das Beste mache, was ich kann. in all of those core areas.

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Ich möchte sicher machen, dass ich für dich emotional da bin. Und wenn Dinge gut oder schlecht gehen, fühlst du dich, als hättest du ein sicheres Unterstützungssystem. Ich will sicher machen, dass ich physisch da bin. Also während dieser großen Momente deiner und ihres Lebens, weißt du, ich bin im Raum und du erzählst mir nicht über sie nach dem Faktum.

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Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

2393.716

Und ich will sicher machen, dass Sie finanziell die Leben leben, die Sie leben wollen. Und dann, und ich weiß, dass ich alles, was ich gerade gesagt habe, wiederhole, aber ich denke, das sind einige Beispiele. Und dann letztlich, wie die Energie. Ich will sicher machen, dass, wenn du nach Hause kommst, wenn sie nach Hause kommt, dass der Eindruck positiv ist und der Eindruck sicher ist.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

2421.708

Und du weißt, du bist nicht, du nicht, sie und du fühlst dich nicht, als würdest du nach Hause kommen, zu einem traurigen Raum oder einem volatilen Raum. Und das ist für mich das, was ein Anbieter ist.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

243.573

You know Tim Horton was a hockey player?

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

2485.51

Und offensichtlich hat es mit der Geburt angefangen und ist in die Breastfeeding und Pumping eingegangen. Und weil diese Verantwortung so groß ist, ist mein Mindset, ist sehr viel, was sind die kräftigen Verantwortung, die gehandelt werden müssen, die sie nicht wollen und steigen auf und machen sie.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

249.735

Ich konnte es dir nicht sagen. Ich bin froh, dass du da warst.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

2511.395

Und ich denke, dass ich immer hoffe, dass ich immer mehr machen will und ich denke immer, dass ich besser machen kann. Und es ist nicht immer einfach, weil du weißt, manchmal bin ich verdammt entspannt. Also willst du immer besser machen. Da war eine weitere Teil der Frage, die ich nicht beantworten kann.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

2537.858

Ich fühle mich definitiv nicht unabhängig von all diesen Dingen. Nein, von all den Dingen, die mir vorliegen, ist Unabhängigkeit nicht auf der Liste. Aber es hart zu sein, ist auf der Liste. Nicht den besten Job machen zu können, ist manchmal auf der Liste. Aber ja, Unabhängigkeit ist auf der Liste.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

2572.079

I think that if I look at people I know, if I look at dads I know and where I see insecurities, to bring it back to the prior question, it's when there's gaps in where they provide. So like if someone is providing financially aber sie vermitteln es nicht emotional, dann sind das die Menschen, die ich oft sehe, die die, was ist das Wort, das wir benutzen? Die Unwahrheiten. Die Unwahrheiten. Okay.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

259.259

Ich dachte, du meinst... Wir hatten dieses... Weißt du, wie sie Monopoly-McDonalds haben?

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

264.261

Wir hatten Tim Hortons Roll-Up-The-Rim-To-Win. Du kaufst deinen Kaffee und rollst den Kaffee-Rim auf und es gibt dir einen Preis. Und der große Preis war immer ein Toyota RAV4.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

2711.678

Ich meine, dieses Wochenende ist ein tolles Beispiel. Ja, aber wenn ich das höre, denke ich, dass wir in diese Frage geraten haben, dass das Leben nicht verändern wird und wir werden sie in unsere Leben integrieren. Und während wir in so einer starken Weise haben, wie das Leben sich verändert hat. In jeder Weise. In jeder Weise, danke. Aber auch in der besten Weise.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

2743.597

Look at that. You're finishing my words today.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

2759.008

And this past weekend of like, you know, family day, family barbecue and out on the lake with other parents, like... Und nicht in den Hamptons. Wenn ich nicht diese... Weil du... Alle meine Single-Friends waren in den Hamptons.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

2775.491

Das ist der Grund, warum er das sagt. Wenn ich diese Single-Party-Weekende nicht hatte, dann würde ich mich jetzt über meine Schulter schauen, und sagen, was habe ich verpasst? Aber ich hatte genug solcher großen Wochenende und leckere Abendessen, dass ich jetzt in dieser Phase der Leben bin, dass ich wirklich einsteigen kann. Okay, wir haben hier einen Pferd. P is gonna come and try.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

2797.613

No, no, no, P, you're gonna hit me.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

2799.353

You're gonna hit me. You're too close to me.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

2807.755

Pass it. Yeah, he's in my space.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

2858.191

So I think life has changed in every way but in the best way and while they're fucking sleepless nights and it can be super exhausting and we can have you know it can be like emotionally tolling and we have our fights and like we can be exhausted like I wouldn't want to be doing anything else in life right now other than what we are doing.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

2904.183

Aber es ist auch verdammt hart. Es gibt einige verdammte Tage, in denen die Emotionen hoch sind.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

2931.214

People are wondering why I now have this thing in my hand.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

2949.429

Ja, ich mag es nicht, Fragen wie diese mit großen Statementen zu beantworten.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

2956.752

Ja, ich denke, dass das die Entscheidungen sind, die... Die Frau sollte in der Küche sein. that should be made between couples and couples should allocate the responsibilities in and outside the home is like what works for them. I don't think you should do things a certain way because that's how they were done before.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

2976.48

I think you should do them based off of what you're looking for both personally and as a team. So I have friends who do it all different ways. PC answer, but like I will fall on that sword that like I don't think one way is better than the other. I don't think one person should clean and the other works.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

298.187

For sure. I can't wait. Yeah, I mean, you cannot deprive a child of a McDonald's Happy Meal. That is like banana land.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

2994.787

As a rule of thumb, I think that you should figure it out on your own based off of the people in the relationship.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3073.268

Wenn du arbeiten möchtest, würde ich dich unterstützen. Wenn du zu Hause bleiben möchtest, würde ich dich unterstützen.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3089.465

Was meinst du? I love that you work. I love what you do from like a content and podcasting perspective. I think it's really, really fucking cool.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3113.315

I would support you, of course.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3130.016

No, but I don't think you're going to get a juicy answer out of me.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3137.442

I think you want to support your partner.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3155.624

Aber ich weiß, dass du... Ich möchte nur, dass du... Ich denke, es ist wirklich wichtig, dass die Leute ihre Zeit in produktiven Wegen verbringen. Und nicht zu Hause sitzt, unstimuliert. Und ich denke, dass du das tun kannst. By being the primary caretaker.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

317.631

Big pivot there from McDonald's Happy Meals to holding babies.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3180.321

And I think you can do that through having a job outside of the house.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3195.372

And I think it's largely based off the person and their interests and the environment. This is like a very PC answer, but like... Ja, ich denke, was wir gerade gesehen haben, ist, dass verschiedene Dinge für verschiedene Menschen funktionieren und man so offen ist, wie möglich.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3232.453

I just think it also boils down to... I think what I would challenge you on is if you were like, I don't want to work and I want us to have help. And your days were just kind of... I'd be like, alright, so what are you then doing during the day?

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3260.422

Ja, absolut. Wenn du lernen und zurückgehen willst, dann gut. Oder eine neue Fähigkeit lernen. Wenn du zum Country Club oder zum Shopping gehst, dann bin ich aus.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3287.34

I really wanted to implement a new segment to the episode. Which is what? Which was Tweets of the Week. But I sent some amazing tweets into the chat and we forgot to do them. Can we please remember for next week?

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3317.043

Das ist so eine schwierige Frage für mich zu beantworten, weil ich so weit von dieser Position bin. Aber was mir kommt, ist ein Freund von mir, der jemanden verheiratet hat, der Kinder aus einer anderen Beziehung hat. Und wenn ich schaue, How much... When I look at the role he's playing in their lives and how much love he has for these kids and responsibilities he's taken on.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3349.96

Es zeigt mir wirklich, wie groß diese Situation sein kann, solange der Junge bereit ist. Er ist sehr klar bereit für Kinder, er will Kinder. Und deshalb haben seine Partnerkinder sehr sauber sich in sein Leben integriert. So I think my take on I don't really know what I'm answering other than Right guy, right girl, it's absolutely possible recipe.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3385.989

And we're seeing that now, but

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3414.086

Ja, Jules, du musst es spielen. Harrison hat... Wir legen es auf den Bildschirm.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3420.923

Okay, also Google hat... Oh nein, du solltest es zuerst spielen.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3438.672

Ja, also basically, um es alle zusammenzubringen, damit es hier alles wirklich klar ist. Also... Ich habe Alex ein Video von einem Komedian gefordert, der eine Lüge erzählt, die von ihr lustig macht. Also ist es AI. Google hat also eine neue Reihe von AI-Tools eröffnet. Und sie haben einen Text-zu-Video-Maker. Und dieser Text-zu-Video-Maker ist unglaublich unglaublich.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

347.816

Ich habe ein Video gesehen, das sagte, dass sie sie küssen auch gut ist, was einfach gute Nachrichten war, um zu lernen. Und warum?

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3473.134

Nein, das ist ein kreativer Figur. Und es ist... Ja, es zeigt einfach, wie schnell die Erweiterungen von AI sind und wie jede Industrie es braucht, diese technologischen Änderungen aufzunehmen, die das, was wir tun, beeinflussen. Und ich denke, es sollten gerade bestimmte Karrieren sein, die sehr, sehr betroffen sind.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3517.035

Ja, AI-Boom, AI-Revolution. Wow. Ich denke, dass viele Jobs, die ein Jahr oder eine Dekade hervorragend sind, sehr prestigios sind. Ja. könnte in der nahe Zukunft obsolet werden. Wie die Berufe. Ich denke, die Kreator-Ökonomie, ich denke, die Film-Ökonomie sollte gerade sehr Angst haben.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3547.808

Oder wenn du, wie ich schon gesehen habe, einige von den Ads gemacht habe, wenn du Ads für das Leben gemacht hast.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3581.47

Nein. Ja, sie haben versucht, jemanden in Frankreich zu verabschieden.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

361.627

Well, as soon as I saw Kissing Them Is Good, I was like, alright, that's great news. And now scrolling on to the next one.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3619.112

I mean, this is obviously like the dark side of crypto, which is the lack of insurance and that these things can can happen in an easier way than like stealing someone's money from a bank. I don't have much of a response to this other than it's fucked up. And it reminded me of a crazy story of when I first moved to Hong Kong.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3656.975

Yeah, so basically, when you open a bank account... There's a bunch of compliance that you need to go through that ties the bank account to your identity, to your tax records and so on and so forth. And so the traceability of money that goes in and out of that bank account and between bank accounts in the country is pretty clean. With crypto, it takes...

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3691.269

15 Sekunden, um eine Krypto-Wallet zu öffnen. Und das macht es wirklich schwer, Kryptowährungen zu zeichnen. Es ist immer noch technisch zeichnbar, weil es alles auf der Schiene ist, aber es wird wirklich kompliziert. Sie würden also die 100 Millionen Dollar nehmen und sie würden distributed to thousands and thousands of wallets.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3722.005

And it would just, they'd make it a disaster to actually trace and find. So, yeah. Ja, und Plattformen wie Coinbase machen das, aber es gibt einen großen Teil des Ökosystems, der auf dem Weg ist. Und das ist ziemlich kompliziert, also versuche ich es zu simplifizieren, aber direktionell ist alles korrekt. Wow. Willst du eine verrückte Geschichte hören?

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3752.342

Okay, also, Joel, ich erzähle dir die Geschichte. Es macht wahrscheinlich Sinn, Google Bank of America, Hongkong-Mörder. Wow. Ich komme nach Hongkong. Und es muss meine erste Woche da sein. Da ist ein Kerl. Okay, wir kriegen seinen Namen. Und er war weg. Und am Sonntagabend gehen alle nach Wan Chai. Wan Chai Wednesdays, wie es dort genannt wird.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3780.266

Man geht zum Horserennen und dann nach Wan Chai Wednesdays. Er ging nach Wan Chai Wednesdays. Und er nahm Hookers zurück zu seinem Haus. Und er tötete sie. Und er legte ihre Lippen in Schuhen. Und sein Balkon... Es war voll von einem Haufen... ...verletzter Prostituten. Und... ...er wurde gefangen, weil der Geruch... Ja. ...von all den verletzten Körpern... ...reportiert wurde.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3823.438

Weil manche Menschen in Asien... ...sie verlieren ihre verdammte Scheiße.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3828.394

Jules, was habe ich in dieser Geschichte falsch gemacht?

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3850.24

Ja, es waren zwei. Ich dachte, es waren mehr. Eine sehr verdammte Geschichte. Aber das, was so verrückt war, war, dass es fünf oder sechs große Banken gab. Jeder in unserer Industrie wusste diesen Mann.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3876.397

Yeah, very like American Psycho-esque. Yeah.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3881.579

And I think he was like on some cocaine-induced bender.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3885.44

Yeah, yeah. Not good. We are not endorsing cocaine-induced benders where you kill prostitutes.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3891.503

That story of just like being in the hotel room and like torturing reminded me of Rurik. And then...

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3906.151

Ich arbeitete für einen Investitionsbank für etwa sieben Jahre. Also wahrscheinlich... Nein, acht Jahre.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

3919.86

Drei oder vier in New York und dann wahrscheinlich drei in Hongkong und dann eins in San Francisco.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

466.681

Hast du die Sonne letzte Nacht gehört? Oh mein Gott, es ist so sauber. Es ist so sauber.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

478.666

Nein, nicht, wenn es so sauber ist.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

486.472

Das war das, worauf ich ging. Es ist so, dass ich mich erschöpft fühle. Ich habe es wahrscheinlich drei, vier Mal gestern Abend geschlafen.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

51.001

Ich war immer stolz auf meine Schwester, weil ihr Geburtstag am 22. Juni ist und es ist der längste Tag des Jahres. Ich weiß nicht warum, aber ich glaube, wenn du sagst Sommer, ist das, was mich erinnert hat.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

519.428

Ja, wir haben das gemacht.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

557.679

Gute Präsentation in der Nachbarschaft.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

583.328

Weil du es persönlich möchtest, aber du hast nur so viel Zeit, um das Geschenk herauszufinden. Mein Instinkt ist es, ein Kaffeetablettbuch zu bekommen, das etwas für uns bedeutet. Und wenn sie die Ästhetik davon mögen, können sie es auf die Kaffeetablette legen. Und wenn nicht, dann legen sie es auf eine Schale.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

613.739

Oh. Let's make them ribs.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

682.541

So we're set on wine, right? Ich fühle mich wie... Wein, ja.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

688.447

Also wenn wir einfach zu jemandem zu Hause zum Abendessen gehen, ist das Wein-Ding geschlossen. Es sind die anderen Voraussetzungen, die wir herausfinden müssen, die du gerade gesagt hast.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

705.053

Ja, ich würde die Internet lieben, um uns eine gute Geschenkidee zu geben. Etwas, das wiederholbar ist, nachvollziehbar ist, und auf eine gute Preisung.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

717.4

Ja. Jules, hast du irgendwelche Ideen?

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

728.168

Wir kennen das Geschenk. Was ist es? Was ist es? Es ist... Ich will es nicht mal sagen, weil ich es fucking gatekeepen möchte. Erzähl es mir. Das Geschenk, das wir unseren Nachbarn bekommen haben.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

737.936

Das war ein großartiges Geschenk.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

76.631

No. We have a long weekend the week beforehand. Have I ever talked about how Canada copies America's holiday schedule with minor tweaks? Have I ever talked about this? No. So when the US has a bank holiday, we'll create one that runs parallel to it and we'll call it Family Day.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

768.348

Es war klein. Es kann auf einem Tisch gehen.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

776.37

Wir sollten ein Bild des Hauses nehmen, Öl darstellen und es in ein Ding legen.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

788.436

Okay. Wir können zu Framebridge gehen. Okay. Ich glaube, ich habe sie benutzt. Aber ich weiß nicht.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

799.036

Whoever I used, they were fucking quick and it was great. So I hope these other people do it just as good and better.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

810.9

No free ads. No free ads.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

818.662

I think it's a great gift.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

823.882

Jules doesn't think it's a good gift.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

832.997

You look at it. Utility, you look. You look at it. Remember the pepper?

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

845.264

Like maybe a chicken skin snack.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

860.168

Ich denke, wir werden hier zu viel an Produktentwürfen kommen. Aber danke.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

864.87

Schaut auf Plastikpurge. Wir gehen gerade durch einige Sizing-Optimisierungen. Wir versuchen wirklich herauszufinden, welches die optimalen Größe ist, um es den Leuten zu schicken.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

903.865

Nein, ich habe das nicht gesehen. Aber ja, sehr klug, sehr klug, weil das Luggen um die großen Türen ist furchtbar.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

969.687

Ich habe auch diese Erinnerung, aber nur nicht sehr detailliert.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

977.452

Ich erinnere mich daran, und ich weiß nicht, ob es mein Vater oder meine Mutter war, aber ich erinnere mich daran, dass dein Stomach droht.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

991.147

Weißt du, was ich dieses Wochenende fast gemacht habe?

Two Parents & A Podcast

Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby

993.609

Du siehst so viel wie einer deiner Freunde aus dem Hintergrund aus. so funny that when she was standing at the bar i almost went in and did like a wraparound hug like little kiss on the like neck cheek thing and she turned before i got there thank god would you have been mortified it would have been horrendous what would you have done just be like oh my god i'm so sorry um

Two Parents & A Podcast

We bought our first home

22.515

Okay. But I don't ever think we clarified anything about the plot of land.

Two Parents & A Podcast

We bought our first home

2350.101

They showed up.

Two Parents & A Podcast

We bought our first home

2662.199

$1.63.

Two Parents & A Podcast

We bought our first home

2829.811

Okay.

Two Parents & A Podcast

We bought our first home

2897.363

Two hours later.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Nanny shares, annexing Canada & donating your sperm?!

1107.134

Yeah, I have so many crazy stories.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Nanny shares, annexing Canada & donating your sperm?!

1119.186

I'm sure people do, but I just don't know anyone who has.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Nanny shares, annexing Canada & donating your sperm?!

1138.212

So like this is garnering, you talk to people in Canada and they are underwriting this at like a 0% chance of happening. And while I don't think it's going to happen, I do think it kind of gets lost on people that like countries over the course of history take over other countries. And this is like a really crazy idea until it's not a crazy idea.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Nanny shares, annexing Canada & donating your sperm?!

1174.764

No, I think that you can't even bet on it happening right now. Like I looked for betting odds and I didn't see any. Wait, wait, wait. You kind of had your risk.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Nanny shares, annexing Canada & donating your sperm?!

1187.563

Yeah. So there's all the betting markets, right? Polymarket, Kalshi. And so I went to look, like, what are the odds of the U.S. annexing Canada? And it isn't listed. So, like, Trump's talking about it, but it's not being taken seriously enough to actually list it. So no one's betting that it's going to happen.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Nanny shares, annexing Canada & donating your sperm?!

1212.38

I mean, they bet on Trudeau resigning. That was a leading indicator for a long time. Yeah.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Nanny shares, annexing Canada & donating your sperm?!

1220.861

They're betting on who the new prime minister resigned, I think, last week.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Nanny shares, annexing Canada & donating your sperm?!

1233.99

These betting websites are actually crazy. You'll bet on how much snow is in New York today. Like in January. Like they'll give you an over-under. Like today you could bet the weather in Austin. Like the high or the low of the weather in Austin.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Nanny shares, annexing Canada & donating your sperm?!

1251.193

Yeah, Calisthenics and Polymarket.

Two Parents & A Podcast

Nanny shares, annexing Canada & donating your sperm?!

1257.374

No. So I wanted to bet during the election, but it – like I didn't have my account set up in time, so I set it up after the election. And – I actually haven't, on CalSheet, I haven't made a bet yet.

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Looks amazing. But do you think there's a, what are the odds you think that that's actually natural?

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That was the whole point, is the betting markets were an amazing predictor of the election. Wow. Yeah.

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They changed all the time, but the betting market showed that he was a heavy favorite for a lot of the cycle. It went back and forth, but it showed him as a lead for a really long time.

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There was a big discrepancy between the polls and the betting markets.

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These are newer services. Pulling market, the main one, you can't use that in Canada. So I think people do it through VPNs and crypto.

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So you don't care if he did, like, some, like, I don't know, steroids or things like that?

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In Canada, this is a very common practice.

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Okay. I appreciate that.

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Did you ask? Because I didn't ask.

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That story. What was that?

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So you're telling me about a time 15 years ago that you drove an hour to get a notebook? Is that what this podcast is?

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What's a handy dandy notepad?

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But why are we talking about a notepad from 15 years ago?

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So that wasn't the brain break?

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I thought this was the brain break. I'm like, this is just... I mean, it's always nice to share good stories of the past and nice memories. I'm sure I have one like that too, but...

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Beanie Babies. I loved Beanie Babies.

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And when the Princess Diana Beanie Baby came out, the place where my sister did her dance, that store had them. Yeah. And so I had my parents speed in the car and zip, and we got the Princess Diana Beanie Baby. Because I think all certified Thai Beanie Babies, each store would only get one Princess Di. And then a store called Caboodles had Jay, which was a blue Jay, which was born March 12th.

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Yeah. I'm a goal person. I like goals. I think they're great.

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And so when that one came out, we also rushed to that store because they had Jay.

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I don't remember saying that.

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I'm not surprised I said it. I don't know. You give me that vibe. People loved her.

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Because she was classy, but also like had a fun, spunky side to her.

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We're not going to turn this into a goal episode.

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I told you, that was a loss of innocence moment for me. That was the first time, like, I remember her death so well. I remember where I was. I remember. Where were you? I was up in Whistler. I was at my friend John's house. It was our neighbor at Whistler. And I remember just his mom was so sad, just crying and crying. Did you know her? Like what? No, no.

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We were really young when that happened. So I didn't really like, you know, seeing a death like that. That was the first one I'd seen of that magnitude.

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Good question. Who is today's Princess Diana? Taylor Swift. Good call.

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I think Taylor Swift is a great shout.

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I definitely don't think it's the lady who married the current gentleman, Harry or whoever.

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Okay. Well, good little comment.

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I think it was just like a blog post.

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Yeah, I think it's a pretty common theme when you look at uh, founders who have exited companies for crazy sums of money that they think that the exit is going to solve, solve a whole bunch of their life problems. And then, uh, they wake up and those problems are, are only greater than they were before.

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Yeah, I have my goals for the past several years written down and then I grade them. And I review them halfway through the year.

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Um, and I think this one was, you know, getting a lot of attention because it was well written and it's recent. Um, but it definitely, this definitely feels like a, a kind of common, common theme amongst that group. And, Um, I know like with my business partner and Alex and I, like we talk so much about, it's not about the destination.

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It's about the journey and enjoying the good days, enjoying the bad days. Um, because like, yeah, getting to the end isn't, isn't gonna, isn't gonna solve everything for us.

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Yeah, and they think that the goal solves a whole bunch of other problems in their life.

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Yeah, I think we've been really lucky at how she's been on flights. I think the common theme that we hear from friends is like zero to six months is the easiest time to travel with them. And then six to 12 gets a little hard. And then one to three is like when it's super challenging. But after three, it seems to get better. How many flights have we had her on?

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Yeah, I think my biggest takeaway is like avoid connections at all costs.

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And also then dealing with connections where like you're waking, like she's being woken up and being moved around all the time. And you need to feed her up and feed her on the way down like that. That to me is like, oh.

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Every year I set a body weight and body fat goal. And I did that this year as well. Would you like to tell them? And then I monitored them through this thing called a DEXA scan, which are awesome if you haven't done one.

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Yeah, follow your lead.

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Thanks for listening.

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Yeah, it gives you a whole bunch of information.

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I love goals. Personal goals, business goals, relationship goals. Big goal guy.

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Yeah, I think we both just kind of looked at each other in Hawaii and we're like, all right, it's time to reel it in and put some structure back in the life and start it off good.

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Well, it feels like this is kind of softball subject matter so far. So do we have anything juicy to talk about today?

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I love this setup for a lot of reasons. One is like the energy it brings to the house, like having the girls kind of doing their thing together during the day, whether it's just like sleeping, eating. And the fact is like so much cheaper to do it.

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Yeah, it's truly just a dream setup if you have someone where logistically it works.

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I've sent them so many photos today. I just go whenever I want a break. I just walk up, go see the ladies, snap a pic, and come back down to the office.

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Okay. What did we DM each other this week?

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So I did not watch the video, so I'm digesting all this now. Intuitively, it makes sense. Like the better shape the collective parties are in, the cleaner their lifestyle is, you'd think it would naturally lead to it.

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an easier pregnancy so but like i guess when we met are you asking me to give my take on like my like how i affected you because you actually as we related back to you you had a really tough pregnancy so that means i was fucking up a lot winter can be one of the hardest times of a parent with a little one because so much sickness is going around that's why this

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Yeah, considering the stereotype of workout classes and gyms being full to start the year, that was not the case this morning.

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Yeah, I don't know. When we met, I was in very good shape, but I was drinking a lot. But I was eating pretty clean, way cleaner than I am right now.

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I think what we've seen though with a lot of this stuff is like the testing is so inconsistent because, or what we've seen with a lot of this stuff is like there isn't a lot of testing on these matters because testing pregnant woman is very hard in nature. So I don't really have a good take on this.

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Yeah, of course. It can go both ways.

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Oh, guys are very well aware of that. It can be, the bad can be on their end.

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Uh, a few friends. Yeah. Not going to out them on this podcast, but a couple of friends have. Test their swimmers is what you call it.

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Uh, six month mark. Hmm.

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Yeah, I'm surprised there aren't restrictions on how much semen you can donate.

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Well, in Canada, this is a very common practice and what people do in college for bar money, you get 250 bucks every time you donate your sperm. So anytime you're looking for some Some bar money, you go donate sperm. That's what people do in Canada.

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I'm totally messing with you. I told Alex that this was a thing yesterday and she's like, don't talk about it. Save it for the podcast. No, I haven't. I've never done it. It's not a thing in Canada.

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This is like a really crazy idea, until it's not a crazy idea.

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Like when I said it yesterday, the fact that you weren't like, what? You're like, save it for the podcast. I was like, okay.

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I'm actually pro this. I think this is a very, very good question to ask on a date.

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It is a very, very valid question.

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No, I kind of think you, like, sign away the right. Because I think they don't want people who donated their sperm going and, like, tracking down their kids.

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Yeah, I think that's why the CEO got a bunch, the guy who donated all the sperm got a lot of pushback. Could be a very big problem.

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Is the internet going to jump to conclusion that we're siblings now? Can we like not go down that path?

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Okay, I do actually have a story.

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Uh, we were at summer camp.

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Uh, it was called Bill Weem and they like take you to Israel and, Oh, this is so good. And like Jewish summer camp is like a hookup camp. There's a lot of hooking up that goes on. And, uh, one of our buddies whose name obviously I will not say, you know, he, he was, Oh, this, the story gets even better. Um, He was, well, not better, but better. I'm not supporting his actions.

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Julie, well, this was, Julie, tell me, speed up. This is 15 years ago. I remember the end. I just want to get like the lead up right. So this gentleman had a girlfriend. Okay. Over the summer. It came out that he was cheating on his girlfriend with this other girl.

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Okay. Um, and when he got back to, uh, I think we, when we back landed, uh, I think we all landed in Toronto.

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uh his mom like and he saw his mom for the first time his mom was like oh my god we just found out that your cousin was on your your trip with you and he was cheating on the girl with his cousin that's karma yeah that's immediate karma no way and they didn't know they were cousins they did not know they were cousins

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Oh, absolutely. Particularly when you hear about what the work that's going on with our partners at Voice of the Martyrs. I mean, those guys are on the front lines of the battle. And so we want to support everything they're doing.

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So, Al, you guys have just bought a new house, correct? Correct. And you've sold one, or you're trying to sell one. In the process, yes. In the process. Jill and I, I will tell you, our best investment has been the homes that we've purchased and that we've lived in. Of all the things we've invested in, that's been it. We've bought quite a few homes, and so I know the importance of

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of making a big life decision like purchasing a home. Now my oldest kids are in that phase where they're looking for homes. And the one thing that I tell them is make sure you get to know a really good mortgage broker. When it comes to big money decisions, what you need, you need the right information and you need guidance from someone that you trust.

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Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I think you have. So I think for people who feel like, as if they have to put on a facade. I don't think they really sat with the scriptures. You know, one thing that, that motivated me to come to the Lord when I was, you know, I didn't grow up in church.

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And so one of the things that motivated me to come to the Lord, even start flirting with the idea of accepting Christianity as the ultimate worldview and the true worldview out there was the, was, man, I believe that I started to see I could trust in the validity of the Bible because it was real. It didn't hide the flaws and the downfalls of men, right?

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It didn't hide the fact that David had somebody killed. It didn't hide the fact that, you know, Paul was persecuting Christians. It didn't hide the fact that Solomon, you know, had his issues. It didn't hide the fact that, you know, Peter denied Jesus three times. I mean, the Bible is a very... transparent book. It does not just have men's highlights in social media.

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That's all you see is the highlights, the 32nd best lives of people's life. You know what I'm saying? But the Bible is very, very transparent and honest. And so I think that because of that, we can read the scriptures and we can learn from these men and women mistakes and we can know how to please the Lord and we can learn from another man's errors.

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And so how much more us, you know, and I think that, you know, even in my book, I gave my life to the Lord by, by the man who discipled me, I saw him fail. And the guy used that situation to show me how far, how far I was away from the Lord. And so I think that if we start to be more real, I think we can actually make more disciples.

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uh a responsibility to try to share that so what would you tell folks that to how to do that better because your book is really and by the way if you want to know how to do it better get this book yeah yeah for sure i think a lot of times when we think about being like god i don't know if we think about being like god in in the terms of evangelism because i think you know

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Like we forget that God became man. Sometimes we forget that the God man was actually, you know, a man and vice versa. But I think when you think about when Jesus came to the earth and he incarnated himself to come to the earth, like he literally showed us how to interact with people, to talk with people, you know, in his humanity. And so like one of the things that I learned,

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thing that makes people nervous about evangelism is they think they have to know a whole bunch of information instead of asking good questions so people can teach you how to serve them. Does that make sense? Yes. And so, for example, you guys just brought up, you know, the woman at the well. Jesus asks her a question that he already knew the answer to. He says, where's your husband?

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He knew she had five. Right. But he's asking her a question, right, to reveal something in, you know, to her. namely himself.

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And I do think that a lot of times when we're out in the streets, I think that if we're only asking questions to respond and not asking questions to truly get to know people and we're not truly inquisitive and we're not truly investigative about where someone is and where someone believes about God and all the things, I think, you know, then it starts to become like a chess match.

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And one of the things I said in the book, like, when, you know, you find your identity and the information you know, and not the gods you know, you'll end up treating people like projects and not image bearers. And I do think a lot of times we do that. I think that a lot of times we... We try to ask questions because we have this pre-planned script.

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And sometimes having things planned and having in your mind what you want to say to a person is good. But I do think that you have to ask good questions and then people will teach you how to serve them. And so I think Jesus displayed that really well. I think that he asked the man, why do you call me good? You know, and only God is good.

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You know, where's your husband? And so when I'm on the streets, I'm asking people questions like that, you know, and so it takes a lot of pressure off me too. That's right. Because I'm not fishing for things to say. I'm actually, I'm actually asking good questions and they're teaching me how, how, how to, how, how to serve them. And so one thing that I learned about evangelism is that every heart,

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heart has a cry. I think we just have to ask the right questions to hear it. And a lot of times we don't hear the cry because the questions are wrong or the questions are not there. And so I think asking good questions, I think Jesus displayed that beautifully in listening well and giving truth when the time calls for it.

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So I think that if we balance that, I think then we'll start to get more comfortable with evangelism. And lastly, I'll just say developing emotional intelligence. You know, it's one thing to ask a good question and then you hear a cry, but it's another thing to how you deal with that cry once you hear it. And so I think Jesus, you know, he asked a good question.

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Man, that's good. That's good that you brought that up, because, you know, I think that's another thing that deters people from being evangelists. They walk away and say, man, this person did not hear me. I suck at this. And it's like, no, don't. Don't think that like, if you think that every conversation is supposed to end with this in his prayer, you'll never be an evangelist.

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Right. Because I think I truly believe that God wants to raise up a generation of evangelists that are okay with being seed planters. Yes.

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Yeah, I read in a book one day, the author said, he said, you know the thing that separates us between God? You know that separates God between us? And he said, God never tries to be us. Right. That's good. He said, God never tries to be us, you know, but we have this tendency to want to be God.

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And I think that's the reason why we try to play the Holy Spirit when we're out there evangelizing, because it's something that we're trying to feed. ourselves, right? Instead of trying to serve people. And I do think that a lot of evangelists and a lot of discipleship makers are not really going to see the fruit of their work until we get to glory. And we should be okay with that, right?

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And I think that God wants to use so many believers to plant seeds and And somebody else will come and water that seed. I think he'll give increase, you know? And so one of the things I talked about in the book was, you know, the first time I heard the gospel, I was just a little bad kid, you know, in my neighborhood. And I heard the gospel for the first time at a house church. And, uh,

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The crazy thing, I told that story in the book, but what I didn't say in the book, what I didn't tell in the book, I'm trying to give you guys an exclusive of that story. I don't know why I didn't put it in the book. But the same guy who gave me the gospel when I was 16 in the house church, 2019, years later, I'm a Christian.

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I'm on this tour called the Poets in Autumn Tour, doing like a 44-city tour with a collective of poets. And I see that same pastor sitting in the front row. And after the show went down there, you know, gave him a hug and all of the things. And he said, when I used to give you guys the gospel out in the neighborhood, you guys would come to the church. I never thought you guys heard me.

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And what I told him is what I said in the book. I said, man, I didn't give my life to the Lord the first time I heard you give the gospel. But I became keenly aware of my sin. Yeah. I could not commit another sin comfortable after that. I knew that a holy and a righteous God was watching me. I knew I deserved death because of my lifestyle. I knew I needed a savior.

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It took years for me to finally, you know, say yes to him. But God used you. And so when this God came in my life to start to disciple me, my heart was already ready because the seed you planted. And he just stopped to cry. And I think that, man, like if we can just think about that so many people every single day go without a gospel presentation.

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And if we truly believe that the word of God is alive, and if we share the gospel, you have to know that it's going to impact the people around you, even if it doesn't end with a sinner's prayer right in there, that God can just do wonders. And so I think God just really wants us to be faithful and allow him to do the work.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, man. I really appreciate it. It means a lot. You know, I wanted this book to inspire all people to be evangelists. But, you know, in the beginning, I really wanted to pay homage to where I came from and I wanted to, you know,

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inspire people who came from areas that i came from to know like when the scripture says you know can anything good come from galilee you know galilee was not you know considered the the the upper middle class Community, right? You know, that God, you know, takes the foolish things of the world and shames the wise.

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And I wanted to really paint a picture of the people who come from the environments that I come from. So when I said, you know, when dusk finally grew legs and shakes this home, we would head inside to bathe in my grandmother's smile. We watched her become a choir preparing dinner for our 13 grandsons. You know, we didn't know how privileged you were to sit inside of a song before bed.

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You know, I'm just really just explaining, you know, that average guy who grows up in the hood, who grows up in marginalized communities or even like, you know, poverty stricken communities who thinks God cannot get a hold of them. And so I think, you know, when you write a book, I think if you could paint a picture and allow someone to see themselves. Yeah.

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I think then, I think the relationship with God becomes more tangible. It's like, man, I'm, I was, I'm that person, you know? And so I was just really intentional of trying to just paint a picture in the beginning to just cast vision, um, you know, for people to like, you know, find hope, you know? And so, yeah.

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Yeah, I think to not talk about sin and giving the gospel, I don't think it's no gospel at all. You know, I think before you talk about sin, though, I think I think a lot of times people call people who talk about so preachers or teachers to talk about seeing fire and brimstone teachers with some of them are fire and brimstone teachers, but others have not.

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They're just actually speaking the Bible like biblically and accurately. Like it's not like, you know, and I think one way in which. you know, you can talk about sin is given the gospel and how the Bible gives the gospel, right? And so when we look at the scriptures, the scriptures actually does not start off with our sin. It doesn't start off with our fall.

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It starts off with a good God creating creation and then calling his creation good. And so I think, you know, before we even talk about sin, I think it's very important in evangelism and our sermons, I think that people need to know who they were created by and why they were created. You were created for glory.

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And so I think then when you know that, when you know that you were created by a holy and a righteous God who created you with the Amago Dei, who created you in this image, then you see how drastic the fall is.

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Now I need to be restored because the one who created me The God who created me, I failed from that grace because of sin. Sin separated me. So I think that people, when you just come and say, you're a sinner, and it's like, okay, look. And I tell them, no, no, you were actually created for glory. Yeah. And so, you know, when I talk about sin, I'm always conscious of that.

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I'm always conscious of how am I showing people that before I try to reveal sin, I talk about sin of the fall or Genesis 3. How am I talking about Genesis 1? How am I trying to paint a picture? to them that, man, they know you were created for more than this. And this is the reason why you're not experiencing this. You are separated from this because of sin.

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So I think then, you know, I think then, you know, we can talk about sin and I think people will receive you talking about sin a lot better. And I think then we could be more bold if we just preach the gospel how the Bible does.

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I did. I did. I went hunting. I got my first deer three years ago. No, four years ago now. Out in Nashville, Tennessee with my good friend Ray Orland and a couple of guys out here in Georgia. It's not where I live, like two and a half hours away. They want me to go hog hunting, but I heard they like

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But, you know, as far as culture is concerned, I think what we're talking about is really is just culture and how God wants to use it. But also how God wants to intertwine cultures in the body of Christ. And I tell people all the time, you know, I can't, I come from a particular culture.

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I come from a, you know, urban community, you know, and I tell people, man, like God didn't really save me from my culture, but God saved me for my culture to reach my culture. And I think that I think about when, you know, when we all think about how God strategically, uh,

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placed us in different environments for a reason, you know, but for the foundations of the earth, he knew that you guys be a family who loves and fear the Lord, but for the foundations of the earth, he knew that I'll be born in South South Chicago. He knew that I would hear the gospel at 16. He knew that I would come to the Lord a couple of years later when my friend got shot.

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And because of that, I've been able to lead so many people who come from communities like we took to the Lord. And so like, I think that, When we embrace the fact that our God is not limited to how we grew up. When we embrace the fact that our God, he's not from our town. He doesn't just relate to us only. We limit God if we don't believe that God has people everywhere.

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And he wants to use so many different type of people in mighty ways. I think, you know, one, we won't respect each other's culture. And then if we don't respect each other's culture, we won't learn from one another. And so now, you know, I'm a guy from the hood and my worldview is so vast now. I mean, not super vast, like I'm like in the Lord or something, but you know what I mean?

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It's because I've been able to learn from so many different worldviews. I've been around white evangelicals. I've been around the Asian American Christian community. I've been around the Black community, and I've learned. And so I think that when we learn from one another, I think then we'll start to see more of Jesus.

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I think, God, we'll start to learn way more about God that we could not learn about Him if we only stuck to our small bowls and circles and people groups. And so I just thank God for the diversity that's in the body of Christ, and I don't

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it's fantastic uh i see uh i definitely see in the future you and jackie coming out here and spend some time with us in the louisiana uh i want i'm telling you i'm not just saying this guys i want to hunt yeah i want to get more experiences you just got to make sure i come back alive yeah you have to come down there in duck season so let me ask you a question before we leave all right is duck hunting the only things you guys do no no we deer hunt too

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Thank you all for having me. It's an honor. It's a true honor.

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Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. I tell people all the time that I have so many different, you know, friends. I was just telling you guys about Ray Orland, the old white guy from Nashville, that is just one of my dearest friends. And, you know, I grew up in a predominantly African-American community in a place called The Hood. And it's only, you know, the body of Christ that connects people.

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And, you know, you know, Christ is the common denominator, just connects us all, you know, our love for Jesus. And so I thank God for this, this huge family that I'm a part of now that I

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Yeah, yeah. It was an honor to preach to all those inmates right before they did baptism and just talking to the inmates and seeing so many inmates give their lives to the Lord and get baptized. That was crazy, you know, people coming up to me and telling me, you know, That they, you know, are going to die in prison, but they're alive in Christ. So that was powerful.

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I will always remember that day. It was powerful, powerful, you know?

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you could tell it's very obvious, you know, how much you guys' family have made an impact on, you know, inmates for a long time. So just seeing that was, you know, very powerful. The scriptures commands us to care for people who are in prison, you know, as if they, you know, were one of us.

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And so just to see people, other Christians out there doing work for people who are incarcerated was such an encouragement to me, you know, and just seeing them just respond the way they did to us. You could say they just really appreciate it just to know that they're cared for and that people thought about them enough to come and met the world in them.

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And so I definitely see myself doing it again.

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Oh, yeah. I had to. I couldn't stop myself. It's a third kit from like 99, 2000. I just like the sleeves. The wolves, yeah.

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Plus, it's one of the few ones I have with a name and number on the back.

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Numero 10. Francesco.

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All right. As you mentioned, we've got quite a number of comments and questions for you guys. So let's dive into some of the things you've already talked about to see if we can expand on some of them a little bit. I know you guys talked about a tweet that Landon put out. Somebody commented and said, Landon, how are you not allowed to go into a USMNT locker room and to tell them to their face?

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It would be great to see the past USMNT go and check on these guys.

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So, we actually have a… Sorry, before you go on, we actually have another question from Mike, the email, who said… My question is about having an American coaching the U.S. men's national team. After the Panama game, a lot of fans were questioning whether or not Pochettino is all in on the U.S. job.

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I know also, like, just as an aside, there was a lot of conversation because I think he went on TalkSport and was talking about wanting someday to go back and coach in the Premier League. And so maybe that is coming from a little bit. But he just said, like, Mike's asking, do you think it's important for the coach to have American skin in the game?

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We have a question from someone else called Zach via email, and he says, this speaks, I think, to kind of the overall feeling of this episode. Zach said the U.S. men's national team has seemed to lack fight and pride in some of the recent international windows. Do you think this issue falls more on the manager or the players?

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Are there any players you would like to see called into camp over the next year who might be able to help remedy this and bring some intensity back to the team?

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I'm also curious, since you're talking about managers and what a manager does for the game. What do you think it did for the Canadian players to see Jesse Marsh get red carded?

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We had a comment on Instagram where someone mentioned about the order of the games for the semifinals. They said, what other federation has their team play as the opening act of their biggest rival? That's so true.

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We didn't capture what the person—sorry to whoever the person was.

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They have the same counter as the New England Revolution. Don't start.

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Okay, one last question, guys. This one was a long one, but I feel like I can pretty much get to the point quickly. This is from Eric via email. Could you guys give your unfiltered thoughts, I will answer for them, yes, they can, on what the Gold Cup really means at this point?

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This is not a soccer podcast unless somebody says it's the hope that kills you. So be real careful with that.

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I do think, though, it's like I as a fan, I take a lot of comfort in that because like one of the things that makes me really crazy. And I think we got a comment like this somewhere on our socials of someone saying, I support the U.S. men's national team, whether they win or lose. And my response to that is, why are you making it sound like criticizing the team?

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after a lot, two losses, is not supporting the team. Like, we are upset because we care. Right, exactly. Exactly.

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Right. All right. Thanks, guys.

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Do you know this one friend who just comes out of bed in the morning and then doesn't come out of the grinning at all? Who is even in front of the first coffee, shamelessly well-groomed and shines around the bed with the morning sun? Terrible. Disgusting. How can you just be so... Restless? Very simple. Train your sleep and become a morning person.

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With the Galaxy Watch 7 or the Galaxy Ring and the Samsung Health app.

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I got my. Oh, Tim, I got my hand tattooed a couple of weekends ago. It's a it's an auxiliary cable. That's amazing.

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Open the season with a win. We love that. Look at you. And Breonna Stewart even threw out the first pitch at the Yankee game this weekend. Did she? Nice. It's all happening in New York.

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He hates it. He hates it so much. All right. Well, first of all, we're going to start on the East Coast. Sorry, Landon, but we just have to do this quickly. Some listeners wanted you guys to know that the New England Revolution boasted a reported 31,000 fans in attendance on Saturday.

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In their nil-nil draw against San Jose. And for reference, the temperature in Foxborough, Massachusetts on Saturday was a high of 71 with a low of 65 just before midnight.

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That's a problem. That's a whole other conversation, though.

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Here's one from Bailey via email. I feel like we just really riled people up last week talking about World Cups of the past, so we're going to have to dive into this one a little bit. I wanted to ask you guys about Eddie Johnson, particularly his run of form in the build-up to the 2014 World Cup.

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Obviously, Landon's omission was shocking, but I remember being equally surprised that players like Julian Green, Aaron Johansson, or even Wando were selected over EJ. I thought he was a lock after the run of form he was in during qualifiers and the Gold Cup in 2013. Plus, he had the World Cup experience from 06. Curious what you guys might have to say on the topic.

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Um, here's one from Instagram from March. Hello. Does Landon have a book in the making? Ooh, tell us more. Yeah. Come on, Landon.

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So what are the details?

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I feel like all of the authors out there who do this as their full-time job, I have a lot more respect for after hearing the two of you talk about how hard it is.

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And then as soon as that one's done, it's time to start.

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Um, here's one from cam via email. I just saw that Marta has been called up to the Brazilian national team, even though she retired last year. Does that mean there's hope for a comeback from Landon or Tim?

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Totally.

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We all love an international break.

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you know, the Pittsburgh Pirates don't go, this is our year, right? Because the Yankees and we'll get to the Mets and Juan Soto, like they're spending more in the Dodgers. You have no chance, right? But the NFL and so Garber always wanted to have parity in MLS. You know, some teams spend more, obviously. but Raul Salt Lake was second or third lowest spending team in the league this year.

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And they finished, you know, near the top of the West. So there's parody and there's, there's opportunity. Last thing, just to tie a bow on the, on the galaxy. Um, it's pretty interesting. And I want to get you guys quick thoughts on this. They, if you guys remember last year, fans were calling for Chris Klein to be out right in the middle of the year, they were boycotting games.

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And if you just think about that versus a year ago, um, I wonder, from a fan standpoint, how people now view that. And there's got to be a little bit of like, look what we did. We got him out. Will Koons came in. Everything changed. Tom Braun is now the president. And now we're back to winning. And it's just an interesting dynamic. And you guys saw this in Europe more than I did.

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But how much power in those situations fans have. And is that coming now to America?

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Definitely. Me too. Did you see, Stu, the reports? I want to get your opinion on MLS League attendance. Yeah. I believe they were second in the world in attendance. Yeah. And a lot of people like, you know, we get into this a lot on this show. A lot of people like to crap on MLS and how it's not great, da-da-da-da.

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I argue that the in-game experience in an MLS stadium is almost second to none in the world. The Premier League is still probably the gold standard. Maybe the Bundesliga. But when you go to an MLS… I mean, being there Saturday, the entertainment value… If I knew nothing about soccer, how could you not love being there?

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And I know it's a final, but how could you not… So, Stu, you're there every weekend, every few weekends. You're in this stadium… Like, do you agree with that? I mean, you've played everywhere, you've been everywhere, but that's my perception.

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All right. Well, since you're not taking the lead on this, Tim, I'm going to uncomfortably take the lead on this.

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I like to tell you you're being quiet on purpose. I'll get to you. So Leo Messi was named the MVP this week. Which MVP?

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Um, I'm trying to remember the year. I don't remember the exact year. It was, I don't know, five or six or seven years ago. Um, I got, uh, Well, first it went through Rich, my agent. And he said, Don Garber would like to speak to you about something. And I said, oh, crap. What did I do this time? It's never a good thing. So Don gave me a call.

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And just straight up, he just said, we'd like to name the MVP award after you. And first of all, what the hell are you going to say to that? I didn't even have a response.

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Did I get anything for it? Um, no, but look, I'm, um, I love this league. I get, I get a lot of crap for sticking up for this league. And I spent majority of my career in this league. Um, it's not perfect. Like there's a lot of, there's a lot of faults and a lot of errors and a lot of mistakes that we've all made trying to grow soccer in this country. But I am very proud of, of my career here.

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And I'm, and I'm proud that I got to be a part of the league. So when that happened, it was, um, I mean, you can imagine the feeling when someone says they want to do that, right? And that's an historical, I guess, accomplishment, we'll say, that will last forever, right? So that's not going until I do something to get canceled on the show. And then I'll be the Tim Howard MVP award. No chance.

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Maybe they know something. No, I hope not.

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Jeez.

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Yes. Do your thought just, just curious. Yeah. Your thoughts on where he's at.

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Actually, I wanted to show you guys something just because you guys wouldn't really know. I mean... Um, so I got my ring. I'm going to wear it. Just, I'm just going to wear it.

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Well, I don't have enough fingers for mine, pal, but, um, Oh, wow.

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Can we just talk about the game? Jump in. Jealousy comes in all forms, guys.

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So Stewie, last thing before we let you get out of here and thank you for taking time. We know you're happy because you didn't have to do drop off today.

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so last thing uh we'd like to we want to pick your brain on so we had a conversation last week where are it was two years to the day since the netherlands game in the world cup are we better off today as a national team or not and why and then you know where are we going and how does it look for the next couple years obviously for the next 18 months

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All right, so you called the game. Let's just dig into the... The actual game. Tim said last week, it was great. It was a great quote. He said, finals are often disappointing. Like semifinals are often way better than finals because finals can be cagey, et cetera. So just from you, we didn't hear the, I didn't hear the broadcast. Tim heard the broadcast. I was in the stadium.

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Well said. Stewie, it's been an honor, man. We could not have thought of a better first guest ever. You kicked off the guest.

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No, thank you, man. We would love to have you back if you have time. Best of luck to you in everything you do. Thanks for everything you do to help grow the sport too. Happy holidays, my friend. Thanks, Ricky. Thanks, Ricky.

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So just what was your take on the actual game and how it played out?

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Let me show you that ring one more time. Oh, All right.

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All right, let's take a break. When we get back, we'll talk more about the Premier League here on Unfiltered Soccer with Landon and Tim, presented by Volkswagen.

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doesn't help like that really really hurts when it comes to like yeah they're like they're trending upward right and then it's funny if you just if you knew nothing about the Premier League this year you'd say they lost to Forrest yeah but Forrest are actually a good team They're a good team, and they're kind of lingering up near the top, like much higher than they should be.

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But this was a bad result for United.

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But that's so hard, Tim, because that is the right approach in every sport. You know, the Lakers for a while were just down, not doing the Celtics down. The right approach is you just start over, you start clean, and you build, and you build, and you build.

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But it's so hard because every weekend feels like a must win when you're in the Premier League, as you know, when you're in the Premier League.

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You know, he's going to have, Ruben Amram's going to have, he's got a PR management position. on his hands, right? That to him is one, two, and three, internally and externally. How do you handle it internally with your players? Look, I know we lost. We're getting better. We're doing the right things. Externally, we lost, but we're getting better. This is going to take time. This is a process.

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It's going to be interesting to see.

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I was going to say, meanwhile, Dan Ashworth exits United as a sporting director. I think it was happening while you were on air. Yeah. During that time. So what, what was the, what was going on?

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Tim, there's an old saying, you get hired for your talent, you get fired for your inability to get along with people. So no matter how good you are, how talented, if you can't get along with the person that matters in the club, it's only a matter of time, like you said. And so this is... This is tough to see.

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Not good for United, who were hopefully stabilizing and now just throws upheaval in all of this. The team, you know, I'm watching from afar. You're more in it. But the team that nobody talks about, who all of a sudden is four points back, five points back, four points back, is Chelsea, right? And they're just kind of under the radar, doing their thing. They went away to Spurs.

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It was more comfortable than a 4-3 victory. Well, they're down 2-1 at halftime, and both you and Gary Neville at halftime went out on a limb and said, I think Chelsea are going to win. Chelsea won, and they deserved it. And so, I mean, while Liverpool sat back and were happy with the Arsenal City results, I think the team now they have to be worried about is Chelsea.

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Yeah. So I think the reason why, you know, this way better than I do, but being in England, there's so much garbage going on in the media all the time. And they haven't had, they've had United's disastrous things going on city falling apart. you know, Arsenal's always grabbing headlines, you know, Ange and Tottenham and everything. And they've just, they've been under the radar. Nobody's paying.

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So now the question is, now that people starting to pay attention, now all of a sudden they're second in the table. Now, how do they handle it? Because people will start talking. And if they creep closer, people start talking to them and they've been able to go under the radar. And it's been, it's been pretty impressive.

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So last thing I want to talk about, Premier League, this was interesting off the field. So fans always complain about ticket prices. And you and I have talked about that. You have an interesting opinion on this. So I think it was Chelsea fans were complaining that their season tickets are like $1,000. Everyone's complaining.

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$1,000, $1,200.

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Can you compare that to U.S. sports for people to understand across the pond?

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Got my mug. They sent me a shirt, Timmy. I will wear it at some point. I also have a jersey. When it's National Team Week, I will. I see your mug in the corner there. I'm going to get it at its own Instagram account. Tim's mug.

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But I think the challenge people have is if you dig deeper, you say, okay, this is everyone's complaint. These are all billionaires. So why are they charging me an extra $15 a seat? But the owners have to ask themselves seriously. And I think the NFL started to pick up on this. All of their money, 90 whatever percent of their money comes from TV.

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It doesn't come from, especially in the NFL where there's eight home games, nine home games. it doesn't come from your nine home games, right? So whether you're charging someone $300 or $200 or $100, it doesn't make a massive difference in your bottom line. It might be a few million dollars, maybe $10 million, which in the grand schema thing for a club, not that much money, right?

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When they're getting billions of dollars. And individually, this club's hundreds of millions of dollars through the TV deals. And it's the same with the Premier League. I know they have more games. They have 19 home games plus cup games, FA Cup, all that. But is it really worth it? I don't know. But to your point, all you Premier League fans, come spend a year in the U.S. and go to sports.

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Tim, in the playoffs, the Padres, right? Yeah. Tickets, average tickets for Padre games, in whatever section, it didn't matter what section, $400,000, $500,000, $600,000. I saw people with their families go, they, by the end of it, they're spending five grand to go to a game. And I'm thinking to myself, where are these people getting this money?

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I mean, like you talk about taking out a loan, but I'm like, how did this many people affording to do this? Those prices. Yeah. Insane. It's insane. Insane. All right, we are going to take another break. When we get back, we will dive into mailbag questions. Love a mailbag. Anything but soccer. Lots to come still on Unfiltered Soccer with Landon and Tim, presented by Volkswagen. Volkswagen.

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Oh, you got swag.

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I have plenty of room to hang them off, so send them on. All right, so first thing I want to do is just talk a little bit. Last week, you guys talked about Landon's cap that's there behind him. So I did a little digging, and I think you guys talked about this a little bit, that it used to be that teams didn't wear matching hats. They wore matching hats.

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And so that's where the concept for the cap came from. In the game? Yeah, in the game. What? So this was back in like the mid to late 1800s when the game was first invented. So in 1886, a gentleman by the name of N.L. Jackson wrote a rule. Shout out to N.L.

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All players taking part for England in future international matches will be presented with a white silk cap with red rose embroidered on the front.

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These to be termed international caps. So that's where it comes from.

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All right, let's dive into our mailbag with our first question from Michael via email. What do Tim and Landon think the role of the USL should be in the overall US soccer and US men's national team landscape?

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I'll go first. I think it's critical. I really do. And for all reasons. There are 30 markets now in MLS. Yeah. But there are lots of big markets in our country. Now, San Diego was the last sort of huge market, Vegas, Phoenix, without MLS teams. But there are lots of great soccer markets in our country that need to be represented. And so I think it's crucial from that standpoint.

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From a player standpoint, MLS has tried really hard with MLS Next Pro and development product. But the reality still for MLS Next pro is that those environments don't compare to USL environments. And I lived it for four years coaching with Loyal. So having real professional environments, a guy I saw on Saturday, Miguel Berry, who didn't get into the game, but is with the LA Galaxy.

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He was playing early days with Loyal. He came on loan to us. And playing in that environment, even only for 10 weeks or 10 games, gave him the opportunity then to go back into MLS and make a real career for himself in Columbus. So having that is crucial from a player standpoint. And then also off the field, as I said, just having markets represented is crucial.

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Okay. Second question is from Jamie via email. What are your opinions on MLS changing their seasonal schedule to something that matches the European calendar?

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I think it would be, look, it's like a lot of things like promotion, relegation, et cetera. Theoretically, amazing. because it would help everybody just be more aligned. From a player standpoint, it helps players be way more aligned with the scheduling, with international breaks, et cetera. The challenge for sure is, for MLS, is the weather.

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But my argument to that is there's bad weather everywhere in the world. I mean, there is. And so if they're worried about weather impacting attendance, In MLS, unlike the Premier League or the NFL, that's actually a real thing because there is a significant portion of revenue that comes through your in-game experience.

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But I would guess now, my guess is now, MLS is mature enough, the fans care enough, or if it's 17 degrees in Toronto, they're still coming to the game. That would be my guess. I mean, they do it in the NFL. You watch Buffalo games. Everyone's there. Every seat's sold out. So I think the league is mature enough for it. I would love to see it.

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Okay, last question is also via email, which people want to write in, is feedback at unfilteredsoccer.com. This one's from Andrew. How do you feel about how the pro leagues regulate finances? Do you think the profit and sustainability rules need revision in the Premier League so that Manchester City, Liverpool, and Arsenal aren't the only teams able to fight for a title?

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Should MLS keep their salary cap as it is now or make it so that teams have more opportunity to draw in top talent while they're in their prime?

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I'll speak to the MLS perspective. The league is, like I just said with the calendar change, the league is mature enough to handle it, right? So every owner in the league is a billionaire, right? So these are not stupid people. These women and men know what they're doing with their money. So they can make the decision, right?

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If you want to pay Messi whatever the hell, who knows what Inter Miami paid him, great. that's your decision, your choice, and that's great. And that's good for the league.

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What I would like to see, because what's happened with all these different types of rules, you know, GAM and TAM and, you know, under 22 initiative, what happens when rules are made is people find ways to break it or manipulate it or unintended consequences happen. And the unintended consequence from all of these mechanisms to bring players to MLS is

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is less American players getting chances, right? So you're incentivized to go out and spend $800,000, $1.5 million on a young South American, but you're not incentivized to keep Brandon Vasquez in the league, right? If you're Cincinnati. And so he ends up going... to Monterey. Hopefully it looks like maybe he'll be coming back maybe to San Jose.

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But you want the incentive to be to keep all those players and bring in other players around the globe. So I would like to see almost all of those restrictions lifted. Have some version of a cap like a really a hard cap where you know what if it's 15 million 20 million 30 million. Maybe you can still spend on one or two players outside of that if you have a messy or whatever.

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But let's just open the purse strings a little not go crazy. but give teams more and more autonomy to make those decisions. Love it.

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That's it. Thanks, guys.

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JR, thank you. All right, Timmy, your neck of the woods. Yep. The New York Mets decided to spend, get ready, $756 million on a 15-year contract for Juan Soto. No deferred money, unlike the Dodgers with Otani. Thoughts?

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$75 million signing bonus. So he might be able to buy himself a car or something. Yeah, just crazy.

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They're still paying him.

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What a guy.

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Here's what's interesting to me. So when you get into levels of wealth, I always think about, does it really matter if it's 736 million or 756? And you have to assume that every team in the running got somewhere close to 756. Maybe it was 650. Maybe it was 700. Now, the years, I don't know if the years even mattered. I don't know if it's 13 years and 756. Does he care?

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Again, if there's someone who's really inside on baseball and knows these things, please let us know. But if I'm a club, why are you committing 15 years? But then the reality is Juan Soto had all the power. All the leverage. And all these things are always about leverage, right? When I was doing my last deal with the Galaxy, I knew I was only playing a few more years.

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They knew I was only playing a few more years. And so we're like, we're wrestling back and forth. Is it two and a half million? Is it three million? Is it three and a half million? But they know I'm only playing a few years. So I had some leverage. They also knew I wasn't going anywhere. Right? I'm not going to leave and go play in Spain for the last year of my life. So they know I love it there.

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They know I want... So there's like a respect factor of not taking advantage of that. But they have all... You know, they have some leverage. I have some leverage. But he had all the leverage. My question for him and... Look, I don't begrudge anyone... getting their money. So great. Get your money. But dude, you had a good thing going at the Yankees. Like you guys could be good forever.

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And I don't know if the Mets are going to be good. And, but I don't know if he cares.

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All right. Well, please, please, please give us comments on that because we're confused, just like most of you. All right. Thanks for all you guys for being with us today. Special shout out to Stewie, Stu Holden for talking MLS with us. Remember to subscribe on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you get your pods.

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I was... So two things. One, just on the field, I was shocked. And I guess I shouldn't have been. But I was expecting to see the Galaxy FC all season. And it was like the... whatever, six-minute ball goes back to McCarthy. He's got zero pressure on him. And he just smashed the ball at the field. And I'm like, oh, they're not messing around today. So it was interesting.

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Early on, they played like they were way more direct, way more vertical, and then picked up a few second balls. And all of a sudden, they were 3v3 at New York's back line. And you're like, whoa, what is New York doing? But it was, I thought Vanny handled it perfectly. By the way, that guy has been through so much crap over the last three or four years. Job on the line consistently.

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Until I do something to get canceled on the show, then I'll be the Tim Howard MVP award.

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Everyone calling for him to be gone. And He just persevered. I was so happy for him. After the game, I saw him. And you know, like with coaches, they don't even celebrate. They're not even, he was just like, oh, thank God we won. You know, like you couldn't even celebrate. The players are dancing around. But Stu, you know that feeling. Like he's, he just, you could see in his eyes.

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How are you? All good? Good, man. What a weekend. We'll get into it in LA. Saw all my old buddies, Janinho, Omar Gonzalez, Mike McGee, AJ De La Garza, Robbie Keane.

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LA Galaxy Wins 6th MLS Cup, Pulisic Injured, and Chelsea's EPL Chase

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He's like, thank God.

Unfiltered Soccer with Landon Donovan and Tim Howard

LA Galaxy Wins 6th MLS Cup, Pulisic Injured, and Chelsea's EPL Chase

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But you have to win. And Tim said last week, and I never thought of it this way, and he's getting his Houston... Dynamo owners are going to be spending a lot of more money after this. He said getting a big national team star, U.S. national team star, and a big Mexican national team star and playing together, he thinks, is the way forward. And I thought that was really good.

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LA Galaxy Wins 6th MLS Cup, Pulisic Injured, and Chelsea's EPL Chase

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But if you think back, Stu, you're successful Houston teams. you guys, well, first of all, you didn't have like big, big stars, but you had all these guys who genuinely cared about the club, like genuinely cared about the club and Houston and doing right by Houston and wanted to succeed for that city. And Ricky hasn't been here long, but that's why I know you guys are giving me crap for it.

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But like, I wanted to honor that. I can see in the way he plays in the way he cares about the club, that it's genuine. And I, it was devastating for him not to play in the final. I spoke to his dad after the game. His dad was like beside himself with joy, even though his son didn't play. Like they love the club and probably growing up in that Barcelona environment, they get that.

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They understand what that's like. And so Greg brought that back. The players brought it back. But then to your point, Stu, like, Nelson, Yoshida, Garces, who, by the way, was absolutely the best player on the field.

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LA Galaxy Wins 6th MLS Cup, Pulisic Injured, and Chelsea's EPL Chase

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Incredible. And so just what they were able to do defensively bringing Marky Delgado a few years ago, like they were just surreal. They were much more stable and they still gave up, you know, lots of chances and some big chances because of the way they played McCarthy and goal. So Wilkins and Greg just built a team that was finally capable of actually winning.

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LA Galaxy Wins 6th MLS Cup, Pulisic Injured, and Chelsea's EPL Chase

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It wasn't just all attack and they won games five, four and six, three and all that. But On Saturday, it just showed that they could do it in a variety of ways.

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LA Galaxy Wins 6th MLS Cup, Pulisic Injured, and Chelsea's EPL Chase

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Oh, it was amazing. All the staff. It was one of those moments in life where I just enjoyed it. I was just sitting there enjoying it the whole time. Proper football club, man. It was amazing. Don't forget, follow us, guys, social media, Unfiltered Soccer. Subscribe on YouTube. Make sure you follow on Apple Podcasts, Spotify. If you love what we're doing, leave a message.

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How you like me now.

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It helps other people find us. You can also email us at feedback at unfilteredsoccer. So what do we got today, Timmy? Something special.

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Yeah, that used to be standard in MLS. But what it shows you, I mean, we all make fun of the crazy rules in MLS and whatever, but what Don Garber has always done, and he came from the NFL, and the NFL's number one thing is parity, right? So in any given, when did they start the league? August. Every NFL team believes this is the year. And they do. In baseball...

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The Mauricio Pochettino Interview

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Yeah.

Very Really Good

Episode #267 - Cringiest Guy of All Time

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I am become meme. Yeah, pretty much.

Very Really Good

Episode #267 - Cringiest Guy of All Time

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I am become meme. Yeah, pretty much. I'm just living the meme. It's like there's living the dream and there's living the meme. And it's pretty much what's happening, you know?

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That was something. I am become meme. Yeah, pretty much. I'm just living the meme. It's like there's living the dream and there's living the meme. And it's pretty much what's happening.

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Mark Zuckerberg has taken to the stage for a surprise cosplay performance for his wife's 40th birthday as singer Benson Boone at the Grammys. And yes, the tech billionaire did wear the extremely tight jumpsuit. Zuckerberg later shared a video of the unique display of affection under which Boone wrote, I can't.

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Yeah. I can't escape these fucking Australians, man.

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Hold up. Yeah, did you guys see that? Freaking dude, why is Mark Zuckerberg got that fucking cake, dude? Damn.

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Hey, that's the beauty of indies though. At least, you know, it's not going to be $70. This is very true. This is true.

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That is. Oh, yeah, I couldn't do that. I'll tell you right now, I couldn't do a whole game all by myself as a love letter to the biggest franchise of horror known to man.

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Oh, did you, you found this game?

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Headliners, The Mute House and Sworn looks SWEET - Gaming Podcast

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Has that ever happened before? Is that, is that a new concept of a Hades-like with multiplayer? Yeah.

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Headliners, The Mute House and Sworn looks SWEET - Gaming Podcast

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I mean, Sworn is a incredible looking Hades-like with the graphics similar to Darkest Dungeon 1 and 2. And it's gritty and it's gruesome and it looks fun as heck, man.

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I've never seen an Indy go over $40. I would say $40 is the highest I've seen an Indy go.

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Well, first and foremost, I did not find Fly Night. That was given to me by our good buddy Jigglepuff.

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So glad he linked it to me because that game is incredible. It's incredible because it shouldn't work for what it is, but it does. It's a 3D Souls-like with co-op, but it's in this graphical style of RuneScape. And your bugs, your bug nights, like Hollow Knight, but real. is what I would put it as. Like live action Hollow Knight.

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I think it looks dope. I really do.

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I have 100%ed it already, actually.

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I would say lukewarm to mid, yeah, mid-reception would be fair. A lot of people are unhappy with the length of the game. That was one thing. A lot of people said it should have been a DLC for the first game, which I won't say if I disagree or agree with that.

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Yeah, 15 to beat for sure, if you're not familiar with the game especially.

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Oh yeah. I mean, and that's 12 hours of incredible backgrounds and unique art and pretty dang good music too. I mean like you're getting a lot out of that for 24 99. Yeah.

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I'm not disappointed with Tales of Iron 2.

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It's harder, I think, jumping from a faster paced game like Ender Magnolia back into it. But comparing it to the first game, I felt like the combat was a lot more responsive and fluid.

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I would say they definitely improved on the combat.

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So Headliners is a Lethal Company content warning-like game where you're going to play as reporters infiltrating a city that's been locked down and has an alien invasion currently going on. And the only way to get the news out to the public is these reporters sneaking in and snapping pics of the aliens.

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So you're going to go in with a group of friends, take pics of the aliens, and hopefully all of you will evac out on a helicopter. Hopefully. Hopefully. Hopefully.

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Yeah, if you get close-ups of the monsters, the gore, explosions in the background, you get extra points for your pictures and things like that. And I think each camera has a certain amount of film, so you only get so many pictures per person. But if someone dies, they drop their camera, so you can always reclaim it.

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Oh, dude, Sworn is a hidden treasure that I cannot wait to talk about.

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So I don't actually know any of the story for this one because... All the Resident Evil kind of stories blend together, but I know this is very much a love letter to the original Resident Evil with the tank controls and the fixed camera. I also know it is incredibly difficult.

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Yeah. Like they bring back a lot of the mechanics from the original resident evil, including, uh, if you, uh, if you reload your gun before you're out of ammo, you're out that ammo, just like an L divers.

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But it brings back that like original system too of like limited ink ribbons to get your saves. So you only have so many saves as well. So you need to use those sort of, you know, sparingly if you want to actually make it through the game.

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Oh, yeah, absolutely. I saw some of the monsters and bosses later on, too. And it's going to get pretty intense.

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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast

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I'm the biggest loser? Is that what I'm hearing?

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But like, I'm a little nervous. Like, you know, please let this be really good looking.

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You're competing against your brain, Ryan.

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I woke up this morning knowing nothing about this game. I love it, man.

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Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast

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And I'm like, dude, this is what you're showing off? The fact that there's a grapple hook and I can slide on the ground? These are not game, like, evolutions, man. Games have been doing this crap for a decade now. Like...

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Ist das nicht die verrückteste Sache der Welt zu sagen? Denn wisst ihr, wie viele Millionen von Leuten GTA 6 spielen? Aber Half-Life 3 ist der Unicorn, den die Gaming-Welt seit 20 Jahren nachschaut.

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Thank you for joining us. We're just ending this right here. So until next time, happy gaming.

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I wish I had a trash can to puke into right now.

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I don't know that it gets any better, man.

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And then you're like, I'm still here.

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Don't pick up the phone! Hang up!

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I'm with you on that. Like, I remember getting excited for the gameplay trailers. You know, oh, it's sci-fi. It's fantasy. Like, those are right up my alley. And then it would just kind of just fall away again. And I don't know if this was a we'll have to see when the game comes out. But I'm here to say, like, maybe we should have made a bigger deal about this game.

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So, okay. So, in a little bit more of a tease, I promise we're going to get to our thoughts on this game. And we're just going to let everybody know what we think before we actually dive into the game itself. But... I got to bring up the fact that when this game released and Ryrie, this is where I'm again, I'm jealous because you got an advanced copy.

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So you were able to play the game and put your thoughts together and have a video review ready for when the review embargo was up. And I think that was up like on March 4th and the game came out like the 9th, if I remember right, something like that. Um,

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So what I want to do, though, is I want to talk about review scores and how they affect like a gamer's approach to a game, because this is something we see everywhere, dude. And we are guilty of it and also kind of not guilty of it at the same time. But you are seeing more and more of this, like the gamer saying, I don't believe reviews.

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If I'm interested in a game, I'm going to play the game and reviews are not going to sway me on whether I am going to play a game or not. And I know that we kind of do the same thing But when a game comes out like split fiction and it's getting nothing but nines or tens across the board, there's a part of you.

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I mean, at least for me, and I'm pretty sure most gamers that go, Oh my gosh, like, okay, this game's now at the top of my height meter, nines and tens. This is going to be great. You know? And so yes, when split fiction came out and it was nines and tens, I got really excited because,

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Oh, man. Well, welcome in, everybody. We are super excited to talk about Split Fiction today. We have our good friend Ryrie joining us for this one. Ryrie, you actually got an advanced copy of Split Fiction. So you kind of knew about this game before any of the rest of us did. And I remember being extremely jealous when you told me that.

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And on the flip side, when we get a game that maybe is on our radar and then it releases and we see sixes and maybe a seven, we kind of go like, is that really worth playing at this point? So I know people say that they don't care about reviews, but I think as gamers, we absolutely do see the reviews for a game when it launches and we can't help but ignore those. So Ryrie,

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This is where the catch is, because... You got to play the game and you made your own review without any knowledge of what other people were going to think about this game. And is that like, is there a little bit of like nervousness with that where you're like, dude, I might've loved this game, but what if like, what if other people are like, nah, this game was trash, man.

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And then I look like a fool or something like that. So was there like that concern? What was it like playing the game ahead of like all the reviews and stuff like that?

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Hello, fellow gamers, and welcome to the Video Gamers Podcast. Couch co-op is a dying genre, they say, but it takes two, one game of the year in 2021? Okay, maybe that was a bit of a stretch, but what about the recent release of Split Fiction? Is it the spiritual successor to It Takes Two, or is this game something else entirely? Can it single-handedly revive couch co-op?

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That makes sense. And I mean, I, you know, I, I absolutely, like I said, we've always said we're just gamers at heart. We're not experts, any of that stuff. I will absolutely go like the day a game releases. I am very excited to see what the review scores are. You know, if we decide we're going to play a game for the podcast, we'll play it regardless. Cause we're excited to play that game.

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But you know, I just, all that to say that I do think that even though gamers will say that reviews don't matter and, it does affect our outlook on a game or that hype meter. If nothing else, you know, if we were excited for something and it comes out and it's a five, I kind of go like, Oh man. Yeah. But if it gets a nine or a 10, I go like, Oh man. So, all right. So like, let's do this.

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Let's, let's get to it. But before we get to it, you know, like, Ryrie, can you describe split fiction for somebody that's never played? It takes two or split fiction. Like, how would you summarize what this game is?

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I love it. Okay. That's a good summary. And I agree completely on that. All right. Now we're going to spoil our thoughts on this because we've teased this long enough. We're 24 minutes into this episode and we promised an early reveal, but we're going to do that right after this break. All right, we're back. Man, that was such a teaser. I'm sorry, everybody.

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You know, sometimes it's fun to just tease stuff to people. All right, let's do this. Okay, so we teased our thoughts on this game during our Steam Next Fest episode. We mentioned Astro Bot levels of fun. And I know that there were people that were like, what? Astro Bot, you say?

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So now I know that that's a bold claim, but after playing the game and beating the game, I personally am doubling down and we're just going to go ahead and spoil it. Split Fiction, for me, may be one of the funnest game experiences I've I have had since Astro Bot or Helldivers 2. I know we hyped up Kingdom Come Deliverance 2. That's a fantastic game, but it's nothing like this.

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I mean, you can't compare apples and oranges. When we are talking about games that are just plain, sheer fun to enjoy, oh my goodness, for me, Split Fiction was an absolute banger.

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Yeah, I reached out to the person that you sent to message, and yeah, they just ghosted us. People don't like the word podcast, apparently. Yeah, podcast. We're video games, man.

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Ryrie, are we crazy?

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Yeah. Well, we're about to do that. But I mean, we had to preface this whole episode by just saying this game is incredible, man. I mean, I had so much fun playing it. And Ryan, you kind of mentioned it. So I played this with a coworker of mine. a good buddy that I actually work with.

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I sit right next to, um, and, and then Ryan, you got to play with your daughter and your son because they both wanted to play with you. So you ditched me for your family. I mean, wow, man, I can't believe it. So, but no, but this is the kind of game where, you know, the first night playing, I think I got a really good play session of like four hours in.

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And me and my buddy, Matt, we're just like, dude, I cannot wait to play tomorrow. And then at work, right? Like, you know, I'm always the first one there. He walks in and we look at each other. We're like split fiction tonight. And he's like, oh, you know it, man. And then we just sat there and talked about the game for like the next 30 minutes, you know? And it's like, this is that kind of game.

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It is literally the game that you're thinking about while you're at work. I could not wait to go home and see what the next level was going to be, the next gameplay element was going to be, what sort of crazy, fantastical setting, because we're going to talk about some of the worlds that this game has that were honestly pretty darn mind-blowing to me.

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Crazy moments, some of the off-the-wall humor, like the pig level. I mean, there is so much to talk about on this. So, I want to preface everything because we will give a spoiler warning when we get into some of the specific levels and some of the specific memorable moments. Until that point, we're going to talk about some generalizations.

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There is a pig level, but they showed that in some of the trailers and stuff like that. So you may get a little bit of a spoilery thing, but it's kind of equivalent to what you would see in a trailer. And then when we really start to dive into some of the very specific stuff we'll give you a spoiler warning as well.

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so you know we did we went fine we'll start doing video then so all right well listen we're gonna get into the show in just a minute um i do want to you know just say thank you ryrie for joining us on this we have been uh friends for a while now um you know you run an amazing youtube channel that focuses on co-op gaming um i have actually checked out your channel many a time for games to look at but what what

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Um, because I think this is the kind of game that the natural discovery of a level is part of the joy of the game. So, you know, this is one where I would say, don't spoil it. I know people like to listen to the episode. That's why we said, dude, go, go buy this game, play this game.

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We are telling you right now, three gentlemen who very likely have different tastes in games that are all saying, go play split fiction. Absolutely. You need to experience this game. So if that's what you were looking for, there you go. Um, but let's get into a little bit more about what makes this game so great. Okay.

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So we always like to talk about the hook that a game has, you know, what is that special sauce, man, that little something that sets this apart. And I love this because it's different for a lot of people, but also at the same time, it's, it's, it's very common. Like you and I are pretty locked in on some of this stuff as far as what the hook is and So for you, Ryan, what is that hook?

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What is that aspect that stands above all other aspects of this game for you?

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Okay. I don't know how to like sense of discovery.

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Inability to know what's coming. There you go. There's, there's a hook. I know what you're talking about though. Because it sounds so stupid and we're like, what's the hook? And it's like, I don't know, but I know exactly what Ryan's talking about right now. It's hard to describe, but this is what it is. All right, let's see if Ryrie can vocalize this any better for us.

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This is hilarious guys, because my answer is a hundred percent variety. That is my answer, and I was picking on Ryan because Ryan's saying the variety of the game, and then it's like, if only there was a word for this. So, I mean, okay, so three different gamers all saying that the variety aspect of this game is the hook, and I am absolutely with you guys. I... I am a self-professed ADHD gamer.

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It's very rare that I ever finish a game, no matter how much I love a game. I mean, I can absolutely think this game is one of the best ever made, and there's still a good chance I didn't play it through to the end credits kind of thing. I just get, you know, I get, oh, what's that game over there? And then, oh, what's that game? And my brain wants to try it. And then it goes, cool, I tried it.

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of got you started on this now you do this channel with your wife is that correct

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What's the next thing up? So for this game, for Split Fiction, the variety in this game was just incredible to somebody like me, where it legitimately felt like this was 20 different games packed into one game in a cohesive way that actually made sense. The other aspect of the variety is you had some nostalgia variety.

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And I'll spoil one of those levels that was a throwback to an old Nintendo game. But when that level started to happen and my buddy and I were playing it, we both went... Oh my gosh, dude, like this is a throwback, you know, and this game does it so well. Like it is a nod to so many great video games of the past. It has fantastic like current day technology.

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There's some mind blowing stuff in this game, dude, like mind blowing. I can't tell you how many times my buddy and I were just like, What is this? Like, what is happening right now? You know, that kind of thing. So if you like a game that has variety to it, this is absolutely the game for you. And Ryrie, you touched on it.

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And I saw this in a couple like previews and even some of the reviews where the people were saying, like, it doesn't overstay its welcome. Just when you think you're starting to get tired of like a certain gameplay mechanic, it just moves on. And oh, baby, does it ever like I cannot remember.

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There was not a single time in all of my I think it took me 13 hours to be where I had a an inkling of like, oh, this is starting to get old, man. Like, did that happen for any of you guys?

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Yeah, I loved the variety. I mean, again, and we'll talk about, you know, let's just actually talk about it a little bit, right? So we talk about the gameplay variety in this. This is a top-down shooter, a side-scroller, a 3D platformer, like a racing game. I mean, you know, boss fights. Snowboarding. Yeah, like snowboarding. SSX Tricky level, you know what I mean?

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I mean, it just goes on and on and on. And it is incredible how they knew what is fun. And that was part of what blew my mind is they took so many games that were famous games and they freaking just put it in split fiction for like 10 or 15 minutes. You know what I mean? And then it was like, I can't believe I'm playing this right now.

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So not only is there the gameplay variety, but there's the level variety. So for every one of these, like, you know, hey, here's, you know, a snowboarding level. You're playing in the snow. You know, you've got this futuristic Tron. You're riding these motorcycles and you're doing this racing game that's like,

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you know like and then all of a sudden it's like you're in this futuristic sci-fi world racing these tron like light cycles around and going over jumps and things like that um you know there's a few levels that absolutely blew my mind we'll talk about those in the spoilers section then not only do you have the gameplay variety and the visual level variety you also have the variety of the fact that there's half this game is sci-fi and the other half of this game is fantasy yeah so

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There's two wildly different visual styles alone. Now, I got to ask you guys, did you like the sci-fi levels or did you like the fantasy levels better? What do you got?

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Yeah, I am very much a fan of both genres. But if I had to say what's my favorite fantasy by far is right up my alley. Give me the magic. Give me all the different races and the lore and stuff like that. But Ryrie, I'm kind of with you in that I think I found these sci-fi levels to actually be a little bit more fun. I don't understand why that is, but it's like, I did like the visuals.

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Like every time we got into a fantasy level, I was like, ah, so pretty, man.

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there's war and conflict and all these things going on and we're being chased by this murderous person and all that kind of stuff.

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The thing, Ryra, you touched on this earlier. So one of the things that I absolutely love is if you are in a sci-fi level, you find these side quests. There's these little portals. And let me tell you, do not, do not ever, ever pass up a side quest in this game. Should not be skipped. They are. I mean, they give you the options to skip them.

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But they're some of my favorite parts of the game, like, honestly. And not only are they some of the coolest levels in the game, they are these standalone levels that really they kind of flesh out the story a little bit. But it's more just this like, oh, you've been in this fantasy world for the last like 30 minutes here. Have a sci fi episode for like 10 or 15 minutes. And it's something crazy.

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really adds to that like just variety so that again nothing overstays its welcome in this game you know and the same thing you're in a sci-fi level and you're tired of laser bikes and you know uh like ninja katanas like oh have this little level of you know pigs flying around and things like that so it's it's really really neat how they kind of balance that out now one of the things that absolutely caught me off guard with this game were the insane visuals dude

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This might be one of the best looking games I have seen in a while, dude. And I cannot tell you how many times I literally said, Oh my gosh, that's freaking cool looking man. Like while I was playing this game, like Ryan, you sent me a screenshot.

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Every time we sat on the bench and would just listen. And I was like, I'm not sitting on no bench in any other game, man. But it was like, it would give you visuals and then the characters would talk. But like, Ryan, you sent me a screenshot last night of a, it's just a hand-drawn level. I'll leave it at that as a spoiler. And you were just like, dude, this game's incredible.

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And I remember getting into that level and being like, there's no way. There's no way this is the, this is the level.

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beautiful and so neat like it was so i was just that's why i was like i gotta send this to josh i'm like really like really you know yeah there's there's another level uh you know where it's a futuristic uh you're kind of you see this star right and this uh star is exploding a little bit we'll get a little bit more into that And I do. That might be one of my favorite levels in a game ever.

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I love the fact that you play all of the games like that is one of the things like that's like us, like we don't cover a game if we have not played the game. I mean, we talk about news stories and we'll say, hey, we just saw this amazing trailer or something like that. But I think there is a vast difference.

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Like that thing was just insane. We've talked about the pig level. I mean, you're a flying, farting pig in the visuals. Go to the super colorful thing. You know, your buddy is like a spring loaded pig kind of thing. One guy's flying around farting everywhere. The other one's like a giant pig slinky thing. You're trying to get to the end of this thing.

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I mean, the Vistas where the game would just pan down the camera and then all of a sudden you'd see this giant futuristic city that looked like it was something out of Star Wars or like Coruscant from Star Wars where there's just a thousand cars flying through the sky zipping around. I mean, I cannot tell you how many times I literally was just like, oh my gosh, that looks amazing.

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So that, I think, is one of the things that caught me off guard with this. Not only that, but the perspective. So this game goes from being a three-dimensional game to a two-dimensional game to a top-down perspective to sometimes... your perspectives are mixed. Like one guy's running on the ceiling while you're running on the floor.

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You know, like, I mean, just at every turn, this game was throwing insane visuals at you that just completely caught me off guard, man.

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Yeah. They really, really up to the game on this one. All right, listen, we're going to talk a little bit briefly about the story. There's really not a whole lot to talk about about the story. And then I really just want to spend maybe 10 minutes talking about some of the really incredible aspects of this game. We'll get into spoiler territory there.

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For the people that don't care about spoilers, you're going to understand why we're so hyped for this. But we're going to take one more quick break and we'll be back in just a second. All right. We are back. All right. So in regards to the story, Ryrie, at the top of the episode, you mentioned that you play as Mio and Zoe. They are two authors that get sucked into the simulation.

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between somebody that has actually played the game and then somebody that either has just seen videos of it or is only going by what other people are saying. And I think part of the problem with the internet nowadays is you get a lot of people that want to comment on stuff that they haven't played.

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There's a guy that is trying to say, hey, I will publish your writing and stuff. One of the things about these two characters is that they are very different from each other. Mio is an introvert. She is kind of, I want to say grouchy. I kept calling her the fun sponge because my buddy was playing as Mio and I kept going like, Matt, why do you got to ruin everything, man?

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We're just here trying to have a good time. Yeah. Yeah. And then Zoe is your carefree fantasy author that is just wants to live in these fantastical worlds. And, you know, nothing is scary and nothing is bad. And she's very much an extrovert and an optimist.

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And so these two characters are pretty opposite of each other, not only in their kind of writing styles, but like the things that they like and their personalities as well. What characters did each of you play as? I played as Mio. You played as Mio? Okay. Did you choose her intentionally or was this like your wife?

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I mean, if extroverted optimist sounds, you know, that's pretty, pretty on, on par for me. So I was like, well, I've got to play this person. And then, uh, my buddy Matt played as Mio as well. And it was funny cause we actually would troll each other. Like as the characters, like I said, I'd keep saying like, dude, why are you taking all the fun out of this man? You know?

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And he'd be like, I don't know, man, I'm sorry. So a little bit of a weird role play thing going on there maybe. Um, So there is story. Does the story really do anything to this game? Is it just the thread that kind of ties everything together for you guys?

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Like was, were you interested in the story and the, the like, I mean, the characters kind of go through this evolution and they have issues that come to light through the different levels and stuff like that. But I, I, For me, the story was just the thread that said, this is why you're playing this game. But I might be jaded or, you know, maybe there was more to it that I just didn't pick up on.

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So what did you guys think about the story?

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And we've seen this with games like Avowed or any kind of game where Starfield was another one that comes to mind where the internet's just kind of at war

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i can't keep running i just can't keep running what's this invisible wall after 10 minutes guys i can't believe it you know and then and then there just comes this part where you're playing it and you go like dude have you played this yeah so i love the fact that you guys play all of the games that you cover on your channel and the fact that you get to play it with your wife is pretty awesome as well my wife would kill me oh my

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Yeah, I will say for me, the characters were interesting. I mean, they did a good job of kind of fleshing out their personalities. And then the levels are always tied to because they're writers and they're basically living like through the stories that they invented or something like that.

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It does give you a reason that you are in this level or why you were going through this kind of gameplay element or something like that. So, I mean, I don't know that the game needed it, but it was there and it wasn't bad or distracting in any way.

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Yeah, now you got me wondering.

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All right, let's do this. Let's get into some spoilers because we're running low on time already. And we've got to talk about some of these just insane moments of the game. So this is your spoiler warning. If you don't want anything else revealed to you, we are going to talk about some specific levels or some specific gameplay elements.

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Again, my recommendation is if you were going to play this, you should skip this part. The natural discovery of this and those wow moments, I think, are better if you just experience them versus being told them. So that's your warning. All right, let's do this, boys. I mean, there's so much. There were so many wow moments in this game. Oh, my goodness, dude.

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I am going to start off with the star level. This was a sci-fi level that was of Mio's design. You were in this futuristic world where there is a star that is supernova-ing, like kind of over and over. It kind of gets contained, I guess. Yeah. This was one of the coolest visual levels I have seen. The gist in this level is that you have to be behind these barriers every time the star explodes.

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The audio for that star explosion was freaking cool as anything.

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The tension of having to run and then be behind this barrier when the star exploded. The visuals of this super advanced sci-fi universe that's about to end. Was just incredible, dude. I mean, this is one of my favorite levels in a game that I have experienced in a while for me. I just thought the sound, the design, the memorableness of this was top notch. I mean, oh my goodness, man.

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The only game my wife will play with me is Mario golf. And that's cause she can beat me at it. And then that's it. I love it.

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Yeah, that one was tricky, man, but it made it feel even better when you got to the end of the level and you're throwing that bomb back and forth. Yeah, the timing, you're like... Give it to me!

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Yeah, there was another level. It's one of the sci-fi levels. It's fairly early on where you are piloting like a car and you're having to jump from these like tubes from like one tube to another. They're like these kind of teleportation tube things almost. And there was something about just ripping out of one tube. And then the controls in this game are top notch, by the way.

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That's one thing we didn't talk about. It's like this is the most intuitive control system for a game that is 20 different games that I think I've ever seen. Dude, the controls just behaved like your brain automatically assumed that they would. So even for that level, and I think maybe that's where it kind of set in for me as I was piloting the car.

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But to leap out of one of these tubes and then just go coasting through the air and then just splashing into another tube like just with precision. Yeah. And it felt so good, dude. I was just like, oh my gosh, man. And then you have to kind of jump back and forth because the tubes are going to crash into a wall. And I just remember it was insane, man.

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All right, Ryrie, you mentioned one of the side quests on this. Again, I think these are phenomenal, but you said one kind of stood out above the others to you. What was that one?

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but yeah she's pretty good with most games so that's good yeah i i it's it's tough man my wife did try to play uh overcooked with me at one point and i think that was the last time that we played yeah exactly and i think that was the last time we actually played a co-op i was gonna say it's pretty good too because you're still around so she's she's kept you hanging on so uh you know she hasn't put you out into the dead zone yet either so yeah you're good to go

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Every time it really is the game. And I mean, there's probably, I mean, off the top of my head, there's probably six different like mega boss fights in this game on top of, I mean, maybe more, but I, I mean, there's so much, there's more, I was going to say, I feel like there's some also like some smaller bosses, the one or the level. Cause we are running, we're running out of time here.

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The other level. And I mentioned this, I teased this early on was the contra level. Like you're literally running around and then the camera, you're, you know, the perspective just changes. And that's when my buddy and I were like, Oh, Dude, it's Contra. Is this really happening? And you even get the spread shot thing and all this stuff. And I was like, dude, we're playing Contra right now.

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That's damage. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that the SSX tricky level with the snowboarding where you're actually like you're literally like rail grinding and trying to put together this combo of tricks and stuff like that while you're skiing down this mountain. I mean, just so many good memories like that. I mean, oh, my goodness. This game is so good. So, so good.

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OK, so we've talked and we've gushed over this for a little while. Were there was there anything that didn't work for you on this game? You know, I mean, we've been kind of praising it for, you know, the gameplay, the visuals, the co-op aspects. But is there anything where you kind of went, yeah, this could have been better?

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I this is going to sound kind of cliche, but really the only thing for me was I beat this game. I checked my play time twelve point eight hours. Now, my buddy and I are both pretty good gamers, so we did not fail very often. So we didn't speed run it necessarily.

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But I mean, you know, we definitely died and had to kind of, you know, both died at the same time, which means you kind of start at a checkpoint. Right. but I just want more, man. I mean, I would have loved it. Loved it. If this was like a 20 hour game, perfect gameplay time.

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Yeah. We're, I mean, we did, we even said, we're like, you know, this is pretty good. And we joked about Ryan, you having to play with your kids and where I was like, Ryan,

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So, Ryrie, apart from Split Fiction, if it would qualify for this, you know, just so the listeners can get to know you a little bit better, what are some of your favorite games that you've played in the last few years? Ooh, last few years.

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is gonna not get through this level like there were a few times where we're like dude this was pretty tough the bomb level like the game show level like learning to time tossing that back and forth we definitely died a bunch there but it was funny because we actually did bring up like the man we're so good at this game man but like some people are gonna struggle on this stuff too and then it's funny because right in the next day is like dude my son just keeps killing me over and over again the

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One spoiler that I am going to leave as a spoiler, but I have to mention it is this. I saw somebody. It might have been the IGN review. The guy was like, this has one of the coolest ending levels I think I've ever seen in my life. And I went, dude, come on. Halo 3 Warthog run. Ryan, you said it earlier, right?

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Dude, the end level on this game is truly one of the coolest end levels I have seen in a video game. Ryrie, do you agree? Yeah. Yeah, it's it's phenomenal.

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Yeah, we're going to leave that one for the for the people, because I know there are people that will listen and then still play the game. But I want I want them to kind of discover that final level. It's it's a lot of fun. It is insane. That's unique. I will say that. It is insane.

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My jaw hit the floor, and I remember going, this is what the guy was talking about, and oh my goodness, I think he understated it legitimately. It was that cool. All right.

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It's just, oh man. Okay. So before we close the show, is this a must play game for people? I mean, like my answer is absolutely yes. I think that everybody should play this game. You only have to buy one copy. That's the beauty of this game is if you buy a copy, your friend can play for free. They download the friend pass and they can join you. You just invite them.

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So only one person has to actually purchase a copy of this game. Shout out to Joseph Farah's and Hazelight Studios because they have done this with every game that they have ever made. And I freaking love you guys for that. Thank you for being true to gamers. In my opinion, this is an absolute must play game. Ryan?

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Well, on today's episode, we're going to find out. But first, some introductions are in order. I am your host, Josh. And joining me, he can solve captions and decline calls while riding on the back of a futuristic motorcycle, all while laughing maniacally. It's Ryan.

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That's my answer. I think if this game doesn't get nominated for Game of the Year, something is wrong. Travesty. Like, honestly.

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It's March. I mean, we're recording this on March 14th, guys. We have two games that we have... Like I said, I mean, King of the Come Deliverance 2, we said Game of the Year contender. And now we have Split Fiction that we're saying Game of the Year contender.

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I mean, unless, you know, eight more games this year come out that are Game of the Year contenders, then I absolutely do think Split Fiction should be in contention. I don't think it will win Game of the Year, but I think it needs to be nominated for Game of the Year because there is something special about this game. Again, I have to give all the credit in the world to Hazelight Studios.

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They respect gamers. They have always done the, you only have to buy one copy. They are trying to keep couch co-op alive, which is something that a lot of developers don't do anymore. I mean, mad respect to this studio as gamers, right? reward this studio for what they do, because this is one of the good ones.

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You only have to purchase one copy as well, but I cannot recommend enough that people give this game a try. Find somebody to play with. If you don't have somebody to play with, come join our discord server. I mean, we have seen multiple people say, Hey, I'm looking to play, you know, split fiction with somebody and people have chimed in and things like that too.

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So it is the best gaming community that exists out there and you will absolutely be able to find somebody to play with as well. So yeah, Speaking of playing games with people, we're late for our community night. We're all playing Marvel Rivals together. So we are going to go ahead and wrap up this episode. Ryrie, thank you so much, man. This has been awesome to have you on the show.

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I know we've talked behind the scenes a lot, but it's been really, really cool to have you on as the co-op expert.

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That should tell people everything they need to know. Yeah, absolutely. So Ryrie, thank you again for joining us. This has been a blast, man. that is it for this episode. If you have not done so already, please click the follow button, the plus button in your podcast apps. You get all our episodes the day that they release.

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And if you want to be like the fine people at the beginning of the episode that support this podcast and make all of this possible, remember you can head over to multiplayer squad.com. You can sign up for as little as five bucks a month, but it goes a long way into, uh, helping us keep the content flowing and bringing you the joy of gaming. So, That is it for this episode, everybody.

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Until next time, happy gaming. See ya! Bye-bye.

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Not to put you on the spot, but is It Takes Two a game of the year? Or did it only win because there was nothing else to compete against it?

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That's a fair answer, man. Fair and tactful at the same time. these guys are professional i'll tell you all right all right awesome well i'll tell you what we have a little bit of housekeeping that we have to do before we get into talking about split fiction so let's just go ahead and get to that uh we have a couple reviews to read so ryan why don't you start us off with a review

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Yeah, you know? And then there's this one that comes in from jwillislee76 that's titled, The Good, The Bad, and The Gamer. And it says, How can any true gamer not love this show? It's like hanging out with your buddies and talking about your favorite games. Love the fact there's different opinions on games sometimes, so you get a great idea of how people will like them.

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I've been listening to the show on my commute and while at work. I'm currently on the November 2021 show, so I'm still behind... keep up the good work.

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We're like, uh, we're like that, you know, that really, uh, the Sopranos, like, you know, the HBO special, like breaking bad or something like that, where there's like, what's going on around this place, man. So, well, listen, if you're liking the November, 2021 episodes, I,

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I can't remember what we said about It Takes Two. I think we said it was fine, and that was about it.

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But listen, we also have a very important thank you to give to a slew of new supporters of the show. Oh, my goodness. So listen up, people, because these are the fantastic humans on the planet that make this podcast possible for your ears. we are giving a huge thank you to Keith O.D., Backward Shorts, and Big Green Smurf for all signing up for rare status to support the show.

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Also, Backward Shorts, I don't know if you're in the Discord. If you are, it's a different name. But Keith O.D. and Big Green Smurf have been very active in the Discord community already, which I absolutely love to see. And then, you know, this one, we're a little late on this one, Ryan, so I'm going to I'm going to give them the moment here, man. This person has played Marvel Rivals with us.

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They are an active member of the community. And that is a fine, fine person by the name of People Wonder who signed up for Epic status. Epic. To support the show, people wonder. It has been a blast to have you in the community nights and as part of the Discord server as well. So thank you so much for the support. And to everybody that supports this show, thank you for making this possible.

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and joining us good friend of the show and the talent behind the co-op company this man knows his co-op games and he's here to give his esteemed and professional opinion on split fiction it's ryrie so glad to be here guys i gotta say i drove off the side of the edge on that so many times

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Without that, we would not be here right now about to talk about Split Fiction. So if you want to support the show, you can do that over at MultiplayerSquad.com, just like all these other amazing people.

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We got to get to it, man. Let's talk about some split fiction. Okay. Now, we're going to...

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spoil this now we're gonna get to our thoughts very quickly on this one but we can't you know we gotta tease it just a little bit man a little bit just a little bit so i want to start off because this is kind of a unique kind of thing for this game too where our hype leading up to split fiction right i always like to say hey you know we talked about this game we've covered it on twigs and things like that you know but like kingdom come deliverance 2 for instance i

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mega hyped for the release of that game split fiction. I feel like it flew a little bit under the hype radar for, for excitable people like us, you know, right up until like the week or two before it released. And then we were kind of like, Oh, I can't wait for split fiction, man. This game's going to be great.

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But that's like a week or two before launch is, is late for the hype train to get rolling, man. So yeah, And listen, we are honest people. We did not mention this game in our most anticipated games of 2025, Ryan. And you reminded me of this the other day. I was looking through.

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So what's funny is I think we didn't know what to expect with this game. Like, we knew that it was from Hazelight Studios. Joseph Ferris, the creator of, you know, Brothers, A Tale of Two Brothers. A Tale of Two. two sons. There you go. Uh, which I played and beat, which is amazing. Uh, a way out, which I played and beat, which was amazing.

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Uh, it takes two, which I played and beat, which I never do. And now split fiction. It, Ryan's looking at me like I'm about to say something else.

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I think I might like this guy's games, man. I think so. So here's the thing, though. So the first gameplay trailer for Split Fiction actually dropped in mid-December. And I remember us looking at it, and we went, whoa, it takes two, but better, right? Yeah. And, you know, then it just kind of fell off the hype meter again.

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And then we got a story trailer at the, I think it was the State of Play in February. And we kind of went, cool, this game's looking really neat, guys. Like, I'm excited. Oh, wait, here comes Kingdom Come Deliverance 2. Here comes Avowed. You know, that kind of thing. And so I want to just like talk about the kind of, I don't want to say lack of hype, but like the lack of lead up to this game.

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So Ryrie... As a couch co-op game and as somebody that got their start with their YouTube channel with It Takes Two and all that, what was your hype level like for Split Fiction before you ever touched it?

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So Ryan, what was your hype level like? Cause I mean, I know mine, but I feel like for you, this may have been a little under the radar for you as well. Like what was yours leading up to this?

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Du gehst und bekommst vielleicht etwas Schaden und alles geht in diese Gegend und es wird nichts da sein. Und das war für mich fast bemerkenswert, weil es diese Erfahrungen gemacht hat, wenn du etwas cooles bekommen hast, all das mehr bemerkenswert. Ich glaube, wir reden immer darüber, wie... Wie viel dieses Spiel uns an die alte Halbzeit und all diese alten Spiele erinnert.

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Der Welt ist Schritte nach oben. Das ist ein neuer, gut entwickeltes Umfeld, das Schmerzen und Gefahr auf jeder Runde hat. Jedes Gebäude, jeder Art von Kreis. Es war überhaupt nur eine erfreuliche Erfahrung, einfach zu besuchen.

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Just so everyone knows, Joss doesn't sleep anymore and he just spent like four hours doing Ikea furniture. So now we're gonna, I guess, record a podcast.

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Spot on, man. Spot on. There was a time I was trying to just run from guys because I'm like, oh god, I'm gonna die. I'm gonna die. And I just ran up this chimney and it was a huge chimney stack, like three stories high. And I get to the top and then there's a backpack and I'm like, oh, oh, cool. And I'm able to get a bunch of loot out of it.

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It was pretty early on in the game, so I didn't have much. And then, this is an even greater part of it, better part of it, is as I'm up there, Die Dinguses am Boden schießen mir Grenaden, um mich zu holen. Ich habe ein paar Leute im Discord erzählt, als ich sie gespielt habe. Sie streamten das Spiel und ich kam für einen Moment rein.

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Aber wenn ich sterben würde und ich wieder in diesem Bereich wäre, würde ich das gleiche tun. Es war so lustig, weil sie mir Grenaden schießen wollten. Und dann würden sie sich wieder runterfallen und sich selbst töten. Es gibt so viele Läufe und Details im Spiel, wie du gesagt hast, wo du in diese Backcrannies gehst und Sachen findest, oder du gehst in diese anderen Bereiche und es gewinnt dich.

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Also ja, im Allgemeinen war die Umgebung und der Welt wirklich, wirklich gewinnig.

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People don't get, like, it's crazy that this stuff is what makes us geek out about it, but that's what, this is how games used to be, and that's why it's so cool to us.

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You can't do that! Did you have performance issues? So, I did not. I did, but I did not have as many as you. So I had two crashes the entire playthrough session that I've played this game. One I sent you the video of because I had OBS running and I was recording it for some footage and stuff. The other one I didn't capture, but other than that,

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für den meisten Teil, es ging ziemlich gut für mich, also ich verstehe, du weißt, das gleiche wie eine Star Wars für Paul, du weißt, wo nur für irgendeinen Grund es wirklich schlecht für bestimmte Leute läuft und gut für andere oder was auch immer schlecht für die meisten und gut für einige wie ich war einer der guten, ich war glücklich, ich hatte nicht wirklich viele Probleme, aber

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It did lag up a little bit when I tried to tab out to go if I forgot to run OBS or I wanted to look at something or things like that. So other than that, overall, the performance really wasn't that bad for me. I know, like you were saying, because this game was developed for, you know, Xbox. So PC kind of conversion.

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Ich denke nicht, dass sie so viel Zeit dazu verwendet haben, wie sie es wahrscheinlich haben sollten. Es gab ein paar Probleme. Modders mussten etwas ändern. Es gab ein paar Dinge, die fixiert werden mussten. Aber im Allgemeinen verstehe ich total, wie du dich fühlst mit den flotten Kontrollen und bestimmten Dingen auf der Leistung.

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Aber im Allgemeinen, wenn es um Crashs geht, hatte ich nur ein paar.

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Nein, das würde ich sagen. Und dann denke ich, dass sie schnell geschlossen werden werden. Und Modders werden nichts, was nicht geschlossen wird, geschlossen. Also würde ich nicht lassen, dass es dich auslöst, das Spiel zu bekommen, um Angst zu haben, dass es nicht funktioniert.

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And just keep coming, coming, and coming, coming, and coming, and coming, and coming, and coming, and coming.

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450 meters away. I'm like, all right, well.

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Oh man. So I would say that basically this is almost like an exploration game to where you just journey through the world and as you explore that's going to lead you to the main campaign to side missions to kind of and you mentioned it earlier like Skyrim and I wouldn't want to put this game on that level but I would say that

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That exploration is up there to where you want to search out these other things. You're like, oh, what is he saying? And you go and check out that area that he wants you to go look at. Oh, this guy did what? Oh, no, he didn't. I'm going to go over there and give him the what for, you know? So it just lends itself to...

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Ein bisschen Survival-Exploration ist fast der beste Weg, den ich jemandem beschreiben würde, der das noch nicht gespielt hat und in diesem Weltraum reinkommen möchte, wie wir es gemacht haben. Wir sind in diesem Weltraum nur ein bisschen rau. Wir wissen nichts über die Lüge und wir reinkommen in die Zone, Baby. Und das ist, was wir entdecken. Und es war ein guter Zeitpunkt.

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But you're like, I did it. Yes. Nobody cares. Nobody knows about it until now when we talk about it on the podcast. But other than that, that was purely for you. And that's what's awesome.

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There's a story. I just knew I had to run around and people kept yelling at me and things were blowing up.

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I'm not real sure why. Yeah, no, it does, it definitely goes into kind of the whole faction thing where you can choose to align your, you know, set your allegiance with one side or the other. That'll determine how they react within the mission. A lot of times it leads to the same result, but it's just with a different crew as you play through the game, but

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Es gibt die Möglichkeit, das zu tun, was cool ist. Ich mag die Möglichkeit, mich mit den Leuten zu verabschieden. Ich fühle mich mit diesen Leuten mehr als mit diesen Leuten. Oder diese Leute sind ein bisschen Idioten. Ich will mit diesen Leuten hier hin. Ich mag die Möglichkeit. Es war lustig, dass du sagst, dass es schwierig war, zu folgen. Denn am Anfang...

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I'm going into that first town and I didn't realize, I'm like, I didn't realize I was going to the first town. So I'm sneaking. I got a silencer pistol and I'm trying to take out other stalkers like, and they all like attacking me. And I'm like, why can't I beat all these guys? Why are there so many?

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Dann habe ich gemerkt, dass ich meine Pistole weggezogen habe und ich dachte, oh, ich bin in der Stadt. Das ist, warum sie mich alle attackieren. Also bin ich so, warum funktioniert das nicht? Aber ja, also es ist, einige der Sachen sind ein bisschen schwierig zu folgen in der Anfang, wie wenn du herausfindest, wo du bist und was du tun sollst.

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Und besonders wie uns, wir haben nicht in diesem Welt, wir wissen nicht über die Zone, du weißt. Also, äh, Ja, es ist eine ziemlich wilde Geschichte. Es ist ein bisschen schwer zu beurteilen, aber es ist definitiv in allen Arten von Verrücktheit.

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Nice. I love the future callback. That's pretty good. It did make it on the pod. It did. That's what you get for leaving us a good review. That's what you get. And for the Gamer Dad energy, I've had some big Gamer Dad energy lately because I'm trying to get the last couple bots on Astro Bot. Dude, did you do that onion level or whatever? Real quick, not to sub, you know, go on.

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This is, and that's why I love so much the exploration, and we can just look at a world that was kind of left in a standstill and abandoned, which just, I don't know, for whatever reason, that just resonates with me. I thoroughly enjoy it.

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Talk about, like, there's guys you walk up to, you talk about you can't trust anybody, they'd be like, hey, friendly, friendly here, you know, and you can get a mission from him, which is cool, he's like, hey, man, I got this over here, let's go do this, and you're like, alright, cool.

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Other guys, I'd walk up, no gun, I'd walk up to them, and then they'd just start shooting me, and then I'd die immediately, and I'd be like, oh, crap, oh, I know I can't go talk to them, and then I gotta go fight them the next time, so... You can't trust anyone. You can't trust anything. Every little shimmer, every little glimpse of something that doesn't look right could be an anomaly.

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You may just be walking and they have those explosion anomalies that just blow up. And you gotta be either quick or back off of them. So there's so many, not traps, but there's just Es gibt so viel in der Welt und in dieser Atmosphäre und im Umfeld zu sehen und zu erleben, dass ich es nicht so gefühlt habe, einfach herum zu gehen und Dinge in einem sehr langen Zeitraum zu schauen.

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Und es war super, super cool, das zu erleben. Und es hilft so viel mit der Immersion. Auch wie du sagst, mit diesen großen Wägen, die durchgekommen sind, das ist im Zonenbereich. it processes kind of all the energy and stuff. And when it can't do it, it kind of burps out. And that's what those, those big, uh, was it emissions?

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So it's basically just burping out the radiation, um, in the zone. And you have to get cover. Otherwise you will die within about a second and a half. It's just like your health goes boom to nothing. So you have to be within confines of somewhere. And, uh, The sky turns red. It just gets super windy and stormy and dark. There's just not too many that have done this kind of setting recently.

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And it was really cool to experience.

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It's like, no, they made sense. The lightning made sense. All of that stuff. hat einen Grund dafür, warum er es machte, und du hast das gefühlt.

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Ja, 100 Prozent. Es war eine der besten Erfahrungen, was die Atmosphäre und die Umgebung betrifft, die ich schon lange hatte. Sie haben einen wirklich guten Job gemacht.

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Man, I would say... Ich würde sagen, wie wir vorhin schon gesagt haben, ich denke, die Erfindung und die Umgebung waren etwas, das mich stetig gehalten hat, um dieses Spiel jedes Mal zu starten. Ich kenne uns als Väter und Vollzeit-Arbeiter und wir hatten viele Dinge in unseren Leben. Hopping in and booting up a game, sometimes it's hard if you're not drawn to it.

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So I had a desire every time to hop back in and see just what was going on in this world. So that was probably something pretty big that drew me to the game. Something that I didn't like was I just didn't feel sucked in overall to the story. I'm a big story guy, big cinematics guy. I don't want the cinematics to tell the whole story, but Ich hätte auch ein bisschen davon möchtet.

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Etwas, das mich reinbringt. Etwas, das mich erfreut, die nächste Szene zu sehen. Oder die nächste verrückte Erfahrung in der Geschichte des Spiels. Ich habe das einfach nicht gefühlt. Teil davon war vielleicht nur mein Lieblingspunkt für die Exploration innerhalb des Spiels. Ich weiß nicht genau, wie das aussehen würde. Aber ja, im Allgemeinen liebe ich die Exploration.

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Okay, so there's this one that's like the master onion level or something that... Me and my son did like a hundred times. It was so obnoxious. And I finally beat it. I beat that. And then I beat the lava sparkling whatever today as well. So we're chipping away. We only have like three more bots to get. But my problem is I always run everything as like a time trial.

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Die Geschichte könnte ein bisschen Arbeit benötigen, in meiner Meinung.

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Did you do the one with Lex the Legend? Nein, ich erinnere mich nicht an Lex.

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Ich bin ziemlich sicher, dass es Lex war. Aber du gehst und manche Leute sagen, hey, komm her. Und du machst einfach eine dieser kleinen Side-Missionen. Sein Meister oder sein Lehrer hat ihm gesagt, dass es dieses Ding da ist. Wir können gehen und wir können ein Artifakt bekommen. Und dann sagt er, aber du kannst keine Essen haben.

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He's like, I learned how to do scent control, but if you have food on you, you know, that's no bueno, you know, you gotta get rid of it. So I go, and there's a van, and I'm like, alright, and I just drop all my food. I have all this food there, and I just drop it all. I go, we kill a few things, and then the thing ends up not being up there, and I'm like, oh, you gotta be kidding me.

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So I go back down, I collect my food, and then I walk over... You know, lo and behold, this is the little hideout with Mr. Lex. And he's just, he's swindling everybody, like acting like he's some big time stalker guy. And he's teaching them all and he's charging them money. I ended up killing them all. And then I got the PDAs and I got all their loot.

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So it was way better than killing that one creature. But these are the weird, crazy experiences you run into. Just that, like you didn't even... And I'm sure there's a bunch that you did that I didn't do. And you didn't even run into this one. So that's what's crazy about the environment.

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So like I don't need to on those levels.

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Und das ist, was mich mit der Geschichte selbst beschäftigt hat. Das war für mich engagierend und ich war damit verbunden, als wäre es nur eine normale Geschichte. Diese kleine Seite ist, was mich betrifft und nicht das Rest des Spiels.

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I think overall it was a solid throwback to like an old school shooter game, kind of horror shooter type. I think that it didn't have all the crazy indicators that you normally have in the games today that like we talked about handholding and guiding your path. So I think that if you enjoy... A really kind of deep, dark world that you can explore and you have a lot of time to kill.

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And it's something that you want to just kind of immerse yourself in and you have a few hours. I tell my wife when I'm going to go and I'm going to play and I can't be bothered or I want to like really dive in. Ich würde sagen, ich gehe dunkel. Hey, Junge, ich gehe dunkel. Ich sage ihr, ich gehe dunkel. Sie sagt, was? Und ich sage, ja, ich gehe dunkel. Ich werde dich in einer Stunde sehen.

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Und ich gehe und ich gehe in ein Spiel und ich werde wirklich rein. Also, wenn du in das bist, denke ich, das ist ein gutes Spiel für jemanden, der diese Dinge machen möchte. Wenn du hier und da poppen wirst, wie du es in 20 Minuten gesagt hast, wirst du nicht wirklich viel erreichen. Also, ja, im Allgemeinen, denke ich, es war ziemlich solid. Ja.

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I muted the music because I'm like, this is making me go too fast. I gotta slow it down a hair. Sorry, I got sidetracked.

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Yeah, that's really fair. It definitely was, it took you down whatever path you chose to go, I guess, basically. Like, everybody's going to have a different experience. Everyone's going to have a different kind of playthrough, kind of like those choose-your-own-adventure-style games. Like, you're going to find what you find, you know? And so, yeah, it was definitely different.

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So, man, ja, so exactly, like you just said there. This one, I did have a real hard time, because there is, as much as we played this game, and we put in a lot of hours in this game, and there's a lot more, you know, it's like putting 30, 40 hours in a Skyrim and saying you played the whole game. No, you haven't even scratched the surface. So it feels like this has so much more to offer.

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um than what i've played so far but what i've experienced and what i i did i'm gonna give it an 8.5 8.5 8.5 that's good it's i i think that it was it was something maybe nostalgia played a I really enjoyed overall the experience, the exploration, the gunplay. There were some weird spots where my NPC that I was shooting thought he was the main character.

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And all of a sudden he was dipping and diving and weaving and bobbing and just instant sponge. And everyone else died and he just took like 400 bullets. So... There was definitely some weird stuff, but overall, I think it was just a totally solid game. I would recommend it. I would recommend it, especially if you have time to just dive into something and want to explore.

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But yeah, man, it was a solid one and I am super stoked that we got to play it.

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And just to hop in, you have to maintain your equipment too. Oh yeah, your stuff will break?

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It's hard... I'm not exactly sure how to describe what my expectation was, because... Obviously, like we just said, there was no experience prior. And looking at the game, I wasn't sure what it looked like compared to any other game. It's a shooter. It has guns. It has kind of a semi-open world. You can explore. There's weird anomalies. So it was just... It was kind of...

Video Gamers Podcast

[Deep Dive] S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl - Gaming Podcast

450.755

A standalone like, okay, this is going to be something different. And that's all I kind of went into it expecting. Like, this is going to be something a little different than anything I've ever played. You know, and we'll get into kind of if that delivered or not.

Video Gamers Podcast

[Deep Dive] S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl - Gaming Podcast

542.834

It definitely gave me those old school Half-Life feels.

Video Gamers Podcast

[Deep Dive] S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl - Gaming Podcast

548.856

It was that old kind of gritty shooter that's kind of dark. You got some weird... Glitches and certain things here and there within the environment, but it was a little more open world than Half-Life ever was. You get to explore a little more and not to take away from S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

Video Gamers Podcast

[Deep Dive] S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl - Gaming Podcast

570.348

to itself, like the world itself is absolutely beautiful and it's definitely updated from that, but the feel itself, it just gives you that old kind of gritty first person shooter from like the early 2000s is what it felt to me and I felt at home, honestly.

Video Gamers Podcast

[Deep Dive] S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl - Gaming Podcast

708.237

You mean I gotta actually talk to the other characters?

Video Gamers Podcast

[Deep Dive] S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl - Gaming Podcast

711.699

I gotta figure things out? Yeah, there's not like a little dust guiding me like exactly where I need to go?

Video Gamers Podcast

[Deep Dive] S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl - Gaming Podcast

735.273

Dude, the feeling. That's what it was.

Video Gamers Podcast

[Deep Dive] S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl - Gaming Podcast

765.336

I would agree, for sure. Now, as far as audio goes, did you get those where you would run over characters and they do that where they flop around?

Video Gamers Podcast

[Deep Dive] S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl - Gaming Podcast

779.671

That's one of the biggest things that I'm like, Oh, I like the sound. Because it's just like, that's what it took me back to being like 16 years old or 15 years old. And I'm like... Yeah, some crate got stuck in the corner. And it's like... Or you're running past a guy and he flops around and he's like banging against like a trash can or something or a rail and it's making that crazy noise.

Video Gamers Podcast

[Deep Dive] S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl - Gaming Podcast

874.863

Dude, I'd get on SideQuest, not even realize I was on a SideQuest. I'm thinking I'm on the main objective, and then I'm doing all these things, and then I'm like, Oh wait, that's not even the main quest. And I had a blast. It was fun, but it wasn't even the main thing. So you have to really pay attention to exactly what you're doing. Like you said, there's no handholding.

Video Gamers Podcast

[Deep Dive] S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl - Gaming Podcast

89.186

Yes, not as good as Macho Man, but it's not bad. Oh no, this is way better than your Macho Man. Well, thank you, thank you.

Video Gamers Podcast

[Deep Dive] S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl - Gaming Podcast

895.663

If you want to streamline the campaign, you got to pay attention and know what you're doing.

Video Gamers Podcast

[Deep Dive] S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl - Gaming Podcast

958.031

So for me, I had two things that stood out above kind of the rest on the game that you experienced. One was the gameplay itself. The gunplay and the overall just movement through the world and how you experience the world, I thought was really neat. I thought it was done well.

Video Gamers Podcast

[Deep Dive] S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl - Gaming Podcast

979.199

Albeit, there was some performance issues, there were some crashes and other things like that, which, you know, I think they're getting fixed with patches and let the modders, you know, just run wild. They're gonna fix everything pretty quick. But other than that,

Video Gamers Podcast

[Deep Dive] S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl - Gaming Podcast

994.677

...the world... ...was... ...was one of the funnest... ...experiences I've had in a long time... ...I just had so much fun... ...going through every cave... ...every nook... ...every cranny... ...every building... ...sometimes you get rewarded... ...like we keep saying... ...and we're just kind of grouchy old men... ...but... Nicht jedes Gebäude hat einen verrückten Loot Cave.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

108.212

Children is a lot different.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

111.533

I felt like I was playing with children. I'll say that.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

1153.998

I was Basim from Assassin's Creed Mirage.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

1161.764

They're all a little different.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

1251.121

I knew where to go, and I got turned around because I started getting chased by a creeper, and I ended up finding Ryan instead of you, and Ryan is on the other side of the world at this point.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

1355.459

It had trees and it had access to something that wasn't the snow. We needed to be able to get underground without getting snowed on constantly.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

1379.105

It is debatable whether you can craft a hatchet or a pickaxe.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

1383.426

Yeah, you couldn't remember to click the crafting table when you wanted to make tools. You kept trying to use your in-game one instead of the actual table.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

1434.972

It kind of floored me because you guys are so good at every other game we play. I'm playing with you two in this. I'm like, oh, this is going great. Josh is great at survival games. Ryan's great at gathering resources. Drop into Minecraft. It's like I've got the two of you on a leash trying to lead you.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

1558.582

I was taking time to explain it to you guys too. Let's not pretend like I wasn't giving you the on the fly tutorial here. You need to take this. And if you put it into your inventory slot at the top where it says crafting, it'll make the wood into planks. That's pretty important.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

1618.724

You just got to stand around for like 0.2 seconds. That's all you got to do.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

1625.307

You guys left so many floating trees around our base that when you logged off.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

1630.71

No, they don't. You need to break all the wood so the leaves just disappear and then it looks nice. But you left like one log in every single tree around our house.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

1641.235

So I spent like an hour just getting rid of them.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

1853.004

Yeah, I mean, from what it was, where it started as an indie game with a solo developer, to moving on to being bought by Microsoft.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

1862.472

For billions. For billions. And now it is the best-selling game of all time.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

1952.834

Kaboom! Oh, kaboom. Many kabooms.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

197.878

And then I ended up being the one who suffered. I was going to say, I hope you're happy. I 100% came out on the bottom of this. I was like, oh, this is going to be great. We're seasoned gamers. We know what we're doing. I could not have been more wrong. Yeah.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

2046.659

I prefer a hatchet over a shovel any day. I mean, a shovel is, for those who don't know, a shovel is only good. Yeah, I know. Fool, how could I? Betraying my dearest shovel knight and his prized weapon. But a shovel is only good for getting up dirt, gravel, and sand versus a hatchet, which is good for wood, obviously. But a hatchet is also a really good weapon in this game. Yeah.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

2072.047

Punching everything to death like you two tried to do.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

2120.132

You think that's a dumb question, but there's a lot of different varieties of wood in Minecraft. I like spruce. Spruce has a nice sort of... Is that the lighter one, or is that birch?

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

2135.823

Spruce is like a... You take oak, which is just the basic form, and just darken it slightly, like one tone.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

2152.847

It's skeletons. I hate skeletons so freaking much, man. They're so bad, dude.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

2199.129

You hear the bones jingle and then just...

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

2270.413

Well, the best weapon, if we're going basically like what the best weapon in the game is, it's a netherite sword, which is a diamond sword coated in the rarest material in the game, which is netherite, which comes from a dimension you guys didn't get to visit because we didn't go that far.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

2288.776

Oh, was it in creative?

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

2320.231

The best weapon in the game is a netherite sword, but I would say my favorite weapon would be a diamond sword with enchantments because I like the sparkly purple blue.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

233.187

Why can't I craft this? It's not enough space. Oh, it's because I won't click the crafting table I put right in front of you.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

2334.022

We didn't make it that far.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

2406.85

So it's like stepping stones.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

2452.196

It's 100% the graphics for you, I think.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

2762.3

My thoughts are, they've changed over the years as we've gotten, you know, as I've gotten, I should say. Well, we've all gotten older. Certainly you two. But as I've gotten older.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

2777.479

Uh, my thoughts on Minecraft have changed, but I've still bought it for every console I pick up. I bought it for PC when I built a PC, even though I, then I didn't know who I was going to play with or if I was going to play it again. Uh, because this is the biggest game in the world, basically.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

2791.485

It's got a massive modding community. Yeah.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

2793.185

Something we didn't even mention, but that's, it's got a huge modding community.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

2796.947

But this game encourages creativity. And I think that's what makes it so unique. Cause this is basically like, uh, I remember when I picked this up, the way I explained it to my mom was like, Oh, it's like a Legos. It's like I'm playing with Legos. And she was like, Lego games are fine. We'll go with it.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

2812.878

Because it took a lot to convince my parents to pick up any new games if it didn't have the Nintendo seal of approval on it or something. Yeah.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

2859.293

One of the biggest collections of forbidden knowledge is on a Minecraft server library where they just have all these banned documents and banned books. You can go read them in Minecraft no matter what region you're from. It's crazy. There's just crazy things that people do with Minecraft you wouldn't even think about.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

2875.208

But for me, Minecraft is still, even after all these years, still an 8 out of 10 game. I think it's always been an 8 out of 10 game for me.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

2882.131

And I don't like survival games as much as you two do. I will play them when I have friends. I hate to play them solo. I absolutely hate playing by myself when I'm doing these survival games.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

2898.038

Here's the thing. If I'm not talking to someone, I'm playing games after I get home from work, I'll fall asleep here, man.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

2920.14

I was excited to see this movie. What are your thoughts on the movie, Ace? It is quite possibly the second worst movie I've seen in my entire life. Only behind the Slender Man movie.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

2933.726

Here's the thing. It is anything but boring. I will say that. It's not boring. It just does not take anything seriously at all. There's action, but it's not actual action. The CGI is bad, I will tell you now. Yeah. But if you're just there to have fun and watch Jack Black and Jason Momoa on the big screen, you'll enjoy it. You'll enjoy just being part of the experience.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

2960.278

I don't think I'll ever watch it again. So worth the price of admission? It was worth the price of admission for me, but I have a theater where I can go see a movie. Two people can go see a movie for $16. Oh, that's kind of nice.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

3093.766

This is going to sell a lot of copies. A lot of physical copies probably when it comes to DVD, but it's nothing there. I hate to tell you.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

3119.298

As a fan, I'm here for you guys. I did it. It happened.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

3278.929

I forgive you for the mental trauma you put me through and all that cleanup of floating trees.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

400.023

Yeah, I'll tell you what I thought.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

408.612

Maybe a little spoiler. You're not going to.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

528.448

It kind of sounds to me like they used you as a slave for labor, so they didn't have to do the boring part.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

626.707

Uh-huh. I'll take it from here, fellas.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

632.112

Yes, to say that would be an understatement. I used to be pretty obsessed with this game because it was like one of the few games my parents would let me play with other people.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

642.3

So I was like, oh yeah, we could all get together and play Minecraft together. But also at the time I was playing Minecraft...

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

648.405

minecraft had really taken over the youtube space like it was huge yeah it was everywhere and you were watching people play it on pc with stuff you hadn't gotten yet in console because i was playing on a console hadn't even known there was a pc version i was playing on the xbox 360 oh wow yeah i know a little a little older version of it But I was instantly better at survival than you two were.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

673.322

I'll say that. I was able to figure it out pretty quick.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

682.248

I saw the minds and I saw the structures, I can assure you. I knew what I was doing way more than you two. But I would play with my cousin and we would really have a good time doing that. And then when they added creative to the console version, because the console version did not come with creative in the beginning. I got really into making pixel art.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

703.661

I loved to just like pull up a template and just use all the blocks in the game to make tons and tons of pixel art while like listening to YouTube videos and stuff. It was a good time. Yeah. So to say I know Minecraft would be an understatement.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

774.809

There's nothing in it. There's nothing that's going to hurt your kids. It's completely tame. It's safe because you can only play with your friends. So it's just like, it's a great game for kids and adults alike.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

870.395

I grieve my ignorance in that moment, I will say.

Video Gamers Podcast

The Minecraft Episode: Yes, Really - Gaming Podcast

89.888

It's Ace. Truly, you are all hopeless, and I'm so glad we are done playing Minecraft together.

Video Gamers Podcast

Final French-asy? Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 – Deep Dive | Gaming Podcast

113.812

Okay, listen. Listen. I can't look at Ryan.

Video Gamers Podcast

Final French-asy? Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 – Deep Dive | Gaming Podcast

1153.023

Now he's like, I don't want to say what Josh just said.

Video Gamers Podcast

Final French-asy? Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 – Deep Dive | Gaming Podcast

217.512

Okay. Okay. I just have to, since we're completely off base here.

WTF with Marc Maron Podcast

Episode 1610 - Bill Burr

1014.302

By what?

WTF with Marc Maron Podcast

Episode 1610 - Bill Burr

1018.38

Yeah.

WTF with Marc Maron Podcast

Episode 1610 - Bill Burr

1555.468

Yeah.

WTF with Marc Maron Podcast

Episode 1610 - Bill Burr

2104.929

Yeah.

WTF with Marc Maron Podcast

Episode 1610 - Bill Burr

2115.155

Yeah.

WTF with Marc Maron Podcast

Episode 1610 - Bill Burr

2119.798

Yeah.

WTF with Marc Maron Podcast

Episode 1610 - Bill Burr

2995.132

Ah.

WTF with Marc Maron Podcast

Episode 1610 - Bill Burr

4117.001

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

WTF with Marc Maron Podcast

Episode 1610 - Bill Burr

4233.868

Yeah.

WTF with Marc Maron Podcast

Episode 1610 - Bill Burr

4942.528

Monkey and La Fonda.

WTF with Marc Maron Podcast

Episode 1610 - Bill Burr

4942.928

Cat Angels everywhere.

WTF with Marc Maron Podcast

Episode 1610 - Bill Burr

967.725

51?

We Can Do Hard Things

Find Your Towanda with Tig Notaro & Stephanie Allynne (Best Of)

2469.881

Unfortunately to four different women.

We Can Do Hard Things

Find Your Towanda with Tig Notaro & Stephanie Allynne (Best Of)

2473.783

You can work out a whole lot of s*** in the hours of Target.

We Can Do Hard Things

Find Your Towanda with Tig Notaro & Stephanie Allynne (Best Of)

3149.068

That is my brother. That is my brother. Don't say that.

We Can Do Hard Things

Find Your Towanda with Tig Notaro & Stephanie Allynne (Best Of)

550.555

What are you supposed to do with that?

We Can Do Hard Things

Find Your Towanda with Tig Notaro & Stephanie Allynne (Best Of)

695.626

Oh, that's good. That's really good. That's really good.

We Can Do Hard Things

Introducing: What We Spend

175.822

My son slammed like $6 worth of blueberries in five minutes. Having a kid in general was just death by a thousand cuts.

We Can Do Hard Things

Introducing: What We Spend

182.186

So I paid $2,400. I got my credit card bill. I still have a bit of a balance going on. The rest of it, I don't want to talk about it today, but maybe we'll get to it at some point.

We Can Do Hard Things

Introducing: What We Spend

205.475

I'm also stressed that I found love, but I cannot afford marriage or children. What I need is a car. What I want is to buy myself marriage obliged tickets.

We Can Do Hard Things

Introducing: What We Spend

224.375

I'm the child of immigrants, and I will do whatever it takes to take care of myself at all times.

We Can Do Hard Things

Introducing: What We Spend

229.739

At some point in my checking account, I had like $15,000. And I was like, damn, maybe I'll be a venture capitalist now.

We Can Do Hard Things

Introducing: What We Spend

236.744

I really want these things.

We Might Be Drunk

Ep 205: Kenan Thompson

1832.048

Yeah.

We Might Be Drunk

Ep 205: Kenan Thompson

2028.74

And sequels.

We Might Be Drunk

Ep 205: Kenan Thompson

2123.443

What?

We Might Be Drunk

Ep 205: Kenan Thompson

2707.314

Ham time.

We Might Be Drunk

Ep 205: Kenan Thompson

2713.718

Yes, yes.

We Might Be Drunk

Ep 205: Kenan Thompson

2849.267

What a push gig, though.

We Might Be Drunk

Ep 205: Kenan Thompson

3103.949

That's true.

We Might Be Drunk

Ep 205: Kenan Thompson

5024.032

I'm looking forward to part two.

We Might Be Drunk

Ep 205: Kenan Thompson

5151.42

Sunday's the day for my next bender, a bit of Pivarec, you know the beer juice close. I've had a little too much bourbon, and Norman's talking shit about the fucking poke, and I get down in the same way. Up on the roof like a cop's coming, and naked Samuel is feeling dangerous. I'm out to lunch here in New Orleans This woman doesn't look like I remember her And I get down in the same way

We Might Be Drunk

Ep 205: Kenan Thompson

742.436

Oh, yeah, yeah. Incredible.

We Might Be Drunk

Ep 205: Kenan Thompson

753.637

Right.

We Might Be Drunk

Ep 221: Are You Garbage - H.Foley & Kevin Ryan with Mark Normand and Sam Morril

1223.63

You have to check the coke. And if you die, we're good. God, remember check spots? Do it.

We Might Be Drunk

Ep 221: Are You Garbage - H.Foley & Kevin Ryan with Mark Normand and Sam Morril

2157.197

The ring. No, it's the ring. My kids live in this building, but I want you to know something. We love the children. We're doing great deals for the children. Okay. If it's casual here, I'd snap your a** and break your a**. You know that, don't you? Okay. All right, Alec Bolden. Alec Bolden.

We Might Be Drunk

Ep 221: Are You Garbage - H.Foley & Kevin Ryan with Mark Normand and Sam Morril

2180.381

Okay. Oh, he's yelling at me. I'm a citizen of this. I was born and raised in New York City. I love you, Alec. Alec, look. You're the favorite president.

We Might Be Drunk

Ep 221: Are You Garbage - H.Foley & Kevin Ryan with Mark Normand and Sam Morril

2197.683

De Niro ran away. Alec confronted. That's good.

We Might Be Drunk

Ep 221: Are You Garbage - H.Foley & Kevin Ryan with Mark Normand and Sam Morril

4543.665

There you go, Peters. How bad is the smell over there, Matt? He's fine. Yeah, don't sniff it that close. What are you doing? Chloroform. It's not that bad.

We Might Be Drunk

Ep 221: Are You Garbage - H.Foley & Kevin Ryan with Mark Normand and Sam Morril

5107.373

Yeah, take your clam chowder, you fucking bitch!

We Might Be Drunk

Ep 221: Are You Garbage - H.Foley & Kevin Ryan with Mark Normand and Sam Morril

614.886

It's a little trick. That's what I call fucking my wife.

What Now? with Trevor Noah

How To Be The Most Healed Guy with Neal Brennan [VIDEO]

1018.393

So even in your early work, when you're sharing about your experience being mixed race?

What Now? with Trevor Noah

How To Be The Most Healed Guy with Neal Brennan [VIDEO]

1069.792

Is it avoidance then? No, it's not avoidance.

What Now? with Trevor Noah

How To Be The Most Healed Guy with Neal Brennan [VIDEO]

1265.311

I'm crunchy and insane. You don't even want to.

What Now? with Trevor Noah

How To Be The Most Healed Guy with Neal Brennan [VIDEO]

1611.469

Never say in private what you won't stand behind in public.

What Now? with Trevor Noah

How To Be The Most Healed Guy with Neal Brennan [VIDEO]

1616.492

But as you know, I say crazy stuff in private.

What Now? with Trevor Noah

How To Be The Most Healed Guy with Neal Brennan [VIDEO]

1623.216

Yeah, obviously there are private acts. There's things that you do in private that you would never do in public. But just be who you are. I think it's easier.

What Now? with Trevor Noah

How To Be The Most Healed Guy with Neal Brennan [VIDEO]

1712.684

I personally just feel suspicious of people who are like nice about people all the time. Just like that person.

What Now? with Trevor Noah

How To Be The Most Healed Guy with Neal Brennan [VIDEO]

172.024

No one comes to take anybody. Okay, I'm curious. Like the age gap between one and ten and where your parents are.

What Now? with Trevor Noah

How To Be The Most Healed Guy with Neal Brennan [VIDEO]

1720.948

But that's the world we're in right now. Like, yeah, if you say anything about anyone, public or private, it has to be a nice or kind thing, because I just think it's. It's not the human experience. Because I'm like, oh, I don't like them. And people are like, why? I'm just like, it's just a feeling. They've done nothing. That's a real thing to have this visceral reaction to someone.

What Now? with Trevor Noah

How To Be The Most Healed Guy with Neal Brennan [VIDEO]

1740.935

But I think the way our politics are and the way the world is going, it's just that people think that they have to play nice all the time. And they're just being disingenuous.

What Now? with Trevor Noah

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179.046

16 years. But I'm curious about by the time your parents got to you, were they like, oh, fuck it. It was pretty New Testament.

What Now? with Trevor Noah

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Because to me, I always see Trevor as very unflappable. Maybe that's like the Swiss German, like the veneer of it. I'm like, no, he seems unflappable. So I was like, because it was like the backlash was a bit weird. So I hit him up. But I think Trevor just heals quickly and better. I call him Wolverine. Like he like heals very quickly and better.

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It's the shrooms, I think. But no, like, I think he does feel it. That's what I'm... No, I feel all of it.

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He's such a Pisces.

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He's very sensitive.

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But I wouldn't have... I'm like, but you don't... No, so... You don't see it.

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My objection to this primarily is like, it's fine when it's all like theoretical, we're working on jokes, that person's a bit racist, that person's a bit misogynistic. But we're living in a time where women currently can't get abortions in many ways. Completely with them. So there's like real world implications, whether it's sexism, racism, transphobia.

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So I think it's difficult because these people in our lives that have unsavory views, it feels like they're winning. I feel like the world is shifting to the right. I feel like the world is a scarier place. And that's like just true. Like you look at elections, you look at all of this stuff.

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And so it's harder for people to be like, well, I can see you as a whole human being when your vote is the reason that I was terrified to do IVF in Texas. Because I was like, well, I'm a woman with a history of loss. And if I need to get a DNC, will I be able to get one? Will a doctor give me one? So there's real world implications for these controversial right wing or even super far left ideas.

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And some people are like, I actually don't want to be around that in my personal life. And I don't blame them.

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You won't get in trouble.

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Yeah, but I also think there's some things that people should be... Listen, I like shame. You do love shame.

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Whether you're a comedian, whoever you are, I don't kink shame. Neil, I'm proud of you.

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Okay, Neil. No, I'm just like, there's some things, if you say them, they could be consequences. Like, I know every time I say something, something I'm trying to teach my kids, something I've had to learn the hard way is like, you say stuff, sometimes people get offended and there's going to be a backlash.

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I agree. But I think we're also in a time for a lot of people where they feel there's a lot to be aggrieved about.

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So we just have to acknowledge that like people are constantly offended because the world is very offensive.

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But Trevor, don't you adjust?

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Trevor, you have that Kumbaya Mandela stuff.

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No, no. I'm saying, okay, Trevor hired me because I was on Twitter talking shit about The Daily Show. That's how we met.

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Wait, no, but you came across my tweets. You were like, oh, this person really disagrees with what I'm doing on The Daily Show. He found me interesting, my mind. But that's the why. I'm complimenting you. He's the type of guy that we see those tweets. You know what? I'm going to hire that bitch. That is Trevor. That's a direct quote. It's a direct quote.

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But it's like, even the way he has his writer's room.

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I'm like, I don't know how you hold that. It's something I really admire as someone who can be very tribal. Actually...

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I learned that from The Daily Show. I was like, all these people are insane. I was like, these are not normal people.

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You were just breaking even.

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So you saw him. Yeah, the same way I see you. Yeah.

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I don't like to be seen, by the way, so this feels very uncomfortable.

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But my point is... When did he get sweeter?

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But Trevor, the thing about you, because you don't like talking about yourself, but I want to make it about you, that I find remarkable and I'm still learning, is that you, and I think it shows in your fans, in your life, you're able to have like this big tent where loads of different people can come in and you never feel uncomfortable. You could just live in difference and tension.

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And maybe that's because of your childhood.

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But in a way that I'm still not there yet.

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Like a social construction. I don't even, it's not like. This is the person.

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And if I was a white man, I'd be so fucking rich.

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I'd be like, I say to my husband all the time, man, if they made me look like one of your friends, I'd be killing it right now.

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Did you do it under guidance? No.

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Neil, I'm curious, right? Because anytime I see you, you're working. I've never seen you, like, in a... Because you don't want to hang out with Black women, obviously. So, like, I've never seen you socially. So, like... So, like, no, I'm curious, what does your depression look like? Because, like, you know, there's always this image of, like... In bed, I can't work, I don't shower.

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Yeah. I mean, I just like surrender.

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And then they're going to be five.

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Because I like to strive. I love striving.

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Because the last time I saw you was before Trevor quit the show. Three years. I haven't met this Neil and it's a good vibe. You know, you got that dad energy in a good way. I can tell he's with a four-year-old. No, I can tell he's with a... Because you're like... Being with a four-year-old kind of does something to you. And you're like, yeah, I just fight with him. Who is this Neil?

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Well, I'm curious before I answer this. Do you and your siblings get on? Are you close?

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Oh. I mean, it's... So it's openly competitive.

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Also, the thing with siblings is just like, if you weren't siblings, oftentimes you wouldn't be friends. That's just like, if you met them in a bar, what are the odds? But now you're forced to become friends, which is... Okay, so tell me what your plan is.

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I'm reading this book called Siblings Without Rivalry.

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When I'm done with the book, I'm like, you know, I'm really afraid because I come from, I don't know, and I don't know if it's like African family dynamics. I don't want to be generalized here, but I always remember there were always like fights about land and fights about... That sounds so parochial.

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It sounds like Trump. They're eating cats and dogs. They're fighting over land. No, no. But conflict was kind of ambient in the extended family. Me and my sisters are figuring it out. We're at very different phases in our lives. But we're a good unit.

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I'm curious, were you angry because you thought he was trying to spite you? Because my instant mind goes to as a parent, he didn't leave you the money because you were the most successful and he's the kid that thought you were going to be okay. That's like my parent giving him this gration.

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But was your anger because you're like, oh, you're trying to spite me?

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Have you asked your siblings?

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So I'm curious, because you guys are both comedians. I'm not. Is comedy really that cathartic? Because like hearing you say like, I released this thing, I surrendered it, and I can put it behind me.

What We Spend

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I'm the child of immigrants, and I will do whatever it takes to take care of myself at all times.

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At some point in my checking account, I had like $15,000. And I was like, damn, maybe I'll be a venture capitalist now.

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I really want these things. I want to own a house. I want to have a child.

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But this morning I really wanted a coffee.

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My son slammed like $6 worth of blueberries in five minutes. Having a kid in general was just death by a thousand cuts. So I paid $2,400 against my credit card bill.

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You know, I plan to bring like a, like a, just a normal regular watch and then wear this just for the reveal. Cause it's just like the dressy watch, but I forgot my regular watch and they don't really have like clocks in the lounge and the pods. So I was actually having to use this to check time, which I also think added to like, because I was often like going like this.

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So that's your man. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I'm so happy for you. Thank you. He's very, very sweet. Have you met him?

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No, I think I'm going to meet him for the first time after this. We also have a pact and I'm putting this on camera, on film. We both have invited to each other's weddings. I mean, you have to.

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So I would like hold it out. You know what I mean? And that just like added to the like, like drawing attention to it.

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I get that. I mean, it's also like, I would, it'd be one thing if we were like seeing each other every single day, like that's where, but I feel like we're just like talking on the phone. I don't know. I don't also, I'm just going to say one thing about the whole TMZ guy thing.

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You know, we talked on the phone a lot about it and I'm just going to say, I don't know how I made it through it without him to be honest. All I'm going to say is, Brittany very much so took the high road in that situation. That's all I'm gonna say about it.

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Yeah, like she said I'm not gonna, like she wasn't gonna go slinging mud even though there was plenty of stuff to say. I just don't think you're that kind of person.

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I wouldn't say backbone, but I was at least there to listen to. We're both there for each other to venture and whatnot. Yeah.

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You know, I feel like I didn't realize how much I presented as that guy until it was watched back. I mean, I don't think that I was like.

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The irony is I was like very confused. like hesitant to talk about it because I know it sounds crazy, but I am like kind of touchy about it. But then it got shown in a way that I was like, in a weird way, trying to like reverse psychology, brag about money. Like, I don't want to talk about money as a way to let you know, I have a lot of money. Like, no, I wasn't trying to do that.

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Like, but I don't think like most of the guys, all the guys and girls were like, I didn't know he was an art dealer. I didn't know he had money. I didn't know he was wearing a Rolex. So, but I will still say that,

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even you know I guess it had to be taken from somewhere so I did still watch it and like try and internalize it and be like maybe sometimes when you try to not talk about something it's like don't think about this then you end up saying it more yeah but uh yeah so even though in your like interviews like your one-on-ones you talked about it a lot well or did they just keep asking you

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There's a lot of questions about it. And also a lot of it that wasn't shown was like, it's in the context of my family. And I had a lot of family tragedy that led to it. And I feel like it also got shown that was like, oh, if there was one thing that I felt a little bit, like I wish it wasn't shown in a certain way, it was like,

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It made it look like I was like, so my whole family died, but like I got some money, so that was cool. It's like, no, like- It did give that. No, because like what they don't show is like all the times I was like bawling my eyes out about it and all this stuff. And so I, like a lot of it was in the context of Because like, here's how it could very much be. So like, what do you do?

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Oh, I'm an art dealer. Oh, how'd you get into that? Well, it's a family business. Oh, so like, do you work for your family? Well, no, they passed away. Oh, so how did that happen? Well, I inherited it. Oh, how does the business do? Well, it pays the bills. So like, what kind of art? And then you can see how it very quickly turns into a money thing. And so, yeah. So anyways.

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even if you get what you feel is not an accurate edit, it's not like that someone was like out to get me. I feel like anybody who makes the show, they have a job to make it entertaining. And I felt that I looked kind of zany, but I didn't think I looked like this just absolutely reprehensible like person. And I guess it's also easier for me to be okay with it because I felt like I ended up

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getting a little bit of a redemption arc towards the end. So yeah. So maybe a little bit, but I feel like anybody who's portrayed not well, it's going to feel like they had a bad at it. Maybe I just was that guy and just felt like that. So I don't know. I try and I try and like see both sides of it.

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I mean, like you get, I was like pulling my hair out every single day. Yeah.

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Wait, wait, wait. You, oh yeah, yeah. Wait, Matt? Yes, Matt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Clark Kent guy.

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I was like, no one's talking about me.

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We were really encouraged to not talk about it and to not talk about other connections. And then after that, I like, you know, came clean, I guess.

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I guess I, seeing, like, some of the footage back, I just don't think she would have been my person.

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Like, seeing, I guess, a little bit of how she interacted with Nick. But at the same time, I do think Hannah's a great person. And I'm actually friendly with Hannah. Like, we talk on the phone, too.

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I haven't been dating that much.

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That's probably true. I think that's fair to say. I think what like I think the reason that I don't think her and I would have worked out is also I know it is hard to believe Brittany was my number one. And I know that like I freaked out when Hannah broke up with me. what that really was, was less of like a, oh my God, you're my number one and then going to Britney.

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But it was like, it was like me being a control freak and wanting like, like I deserve to have these options. Like I'm the one in the love triangle. And that was, that was like a big thing that like I had to check my ego. And that was like, I think one of the big growth things that like I had from the show.

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But anyways, I think that even just looking back, I just don't, I just don't think she would have, but I don't think it's like an, like, it's like not a knock on her. I just don't think we would have. I think we're also really similar people. Like we've talked, her and I have the same like Myers-Briggs personality type. I don't know if it's like these letters and stuff.

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I think we would be like too similar. We both also talk a lot. I think we would talk over each other. I think we had like a lot of fun, but I don't think we would have worked out.

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All right. All right. So yeah, it's, it's shown on social media is Leo dating Allie Shapiro, the daughter of Jill Zarin. The answer is no, we are super good friends. I'll tell you how it happened though. Cause it's kind of a funny story. So After the show, I mean, I think we all get pretty bizarre DMs. And so this is like a Jewish thing, by the way. Jewish, I get so many comments.

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Um, let's see. So I'm living in New York now. Okay. So I'm kind of doing the art dealing up there.

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Literally just yesterday I wrote it. Jewish mothers will be like, my daughter would be perfect for you. She's 28. She has a good job. She's cute. She lives in Chicago, but you could like... So I get a DM from this woman who's like, my daughter will be perfect. And I do see a blue check. And so I click on the profile and I realized that it's Jill Zarin.

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I don't follow the Real Housewives very much, but I realized quickly it was more like, okay, this is not like a random crazy person. And so I kind of responded. She was like, I think my daughter will be great. But she sent a very nice message. She was like, whether you date or are just friends, I think you would all get along because we have a ton of things in common. So, okay. Religion.

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And I'm very happy that there's a new season. You know, it's funny because during when, when our season was coming out, you know, we were always talking on the phone and it felt like there was like some crisis or something every, every day. So it would always like answer, maybe like,

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Allie and I both reality TV stuff. Both in the art world, she worked for like a really elite auction house for a while. And on a more sad note, we both lost a parent to like cancer kind of later in life. And so I was already going down to Miami for Art Basel which is where they like split time between Miami and New York. And they were down there and I met them like at the main art fair there.

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And it was like the moment that we met, I felt like we knew each other for like years. It was like such like truly just great friend vibes. And since then we've just been hanging out a lot. And we did like film some fun TikToks and then I guess Page Six or whoever had fun running with it. And so it kind of became a thing. But no, we are just really, really good friends.

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Well, I don't think I friend- Leo, the friend zoner.

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Okay, I don't think that's a fair question because I think you can meet people and click as friends.

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Like, I feel like both of us, it wasn't like I felt like, I didn't feel like either of us either way felt like a... Romantic connection. You know what? Okay. I think this goes back to what we talked about earlier with his like intentionality to me. If I, if I see someone and they're like friendly, I don't, maybe this is a wrong way of looking at it.

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I don't view it as like, well, like could we be friends, but then maybe like dating later this it's more like if I want to date somebody, then we're dating. I just, I don't know. I guess I don't fight the vibe. And like we all met, honestly, I know it's gonna sound crazy. She feels almost like family more than friends. Like I stayed in their house down in like, like in Boca and stuff.

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I feel like you're also taking two things and making it a pattern. Like Brittany and I situation, you can't compare it to like this. It's like a totally different thing.

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I've literally just redownloaded them in New Year's and I haven't been on them at all.

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I think a lot of the show forced me to like reevaluate what, like just a lot of myself.

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And I think, so I know I don't have a satisfying answer for you. If I had the answer to your question, I would, have a wife right now.

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So I think I'm still figuring it out.

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Yeah. I'm figuring myself out a lot too. So yeah.

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See? No, no, no, no, no. No, that's not true. We actually are going to go on a date. We actually are going to go on a date.

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I think so. I think so. She said she's moving to New York also.

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oh my god okay so I didn't realize that she was your and Kate's friend because she like she said like an inside joke like Brittany and Kate are gonna be mad but I thought that she just like followed you yeah from the show from the show and then I realized he thought she was a crazy fan why'd you ghost her well it's like a dating app like you get like a lot of messages it's not like ghosting in real life it was like

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It was like a virtual ghost, yeah. Also, okay, this is one thing that does make dating a little weird is I've gone on a few dates and I've also like had people come up to me like at a bar and one thing that makes me, I guess, uncomfortable is I've had girls be like, oh my God, like, I know who you are.

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Like I've seen you and like, I feel like I'm the perfect person or my friend's the perfect person. I'm like, you, you know, a version, I knew, you know, a version. And I'm not saying it's not a full version or it's, I know it's not the full version. So it's like weird when, and I've been on a date and the girl's like bringing up stuff and on the show. And so it feels weird. Like,

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I can't say that shouldn't be relevant, but it feels weird to have that be like part of like a relationship.

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A lot of art on the walls, I guess.

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Yeah. During the show, we talked more. Now, maybe like once a week, something like that.

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The artist is always the one who wins in the end.

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Honestly, I'm just scrolling the hell out of TikTok.

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Um, I've been really just getting into what Gen Z is into. I'm trying to learn all the terms. Cause I don't have like a younger brother or sister. I don't even know what they mean. I'm just learning like skibbity.

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It's like, I just know it's a thing. I think it's just like a, it like means nothing, but they just throw it in front of, so like, like we all heard the term.

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And then they'll say skibbity Riz. I don't know. And then there's something like, well, I'm trying to, I'm trying to like stay understanding what, what, what these kids are doing.

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Like a while folding laundry type situation.

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And as you can tell, I'm failing.

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Like it'll just be like skibbity and then they'll get like 10,000 likes. I'm like, but why? Why?

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I'm going to go on TikTok. It's just going to be Leah like, skibbity, skibbity, skibbity, skibbity, under every comment. I'll like it. If I see it, I will like it.

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Okay, it's going to be skibbity, and then someone's going to comment like, no.

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I got to say that the memes are killing me. Like all the sleeping face. That's got to be almost worse. That's got to be like such an ego punch to like for all those folks to see all the memes that are like most boring season ever. Whoever came up with love is bland is hilarious.

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I was telling him, put me in coach.

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I guess I've just been having fun, like, sharing my thoughts because I feel like I have a unique perspective.

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Because I kind of, like, I've seen both sides of, like, from being kind of a villain to maybe being redeemed. So I feel like I try and... I'm trying to come from a place of like defending them, not like saying that they're necessarily good people. I don't know them, but I feel like, for example, having been in a love triangle myself, that's really what I'm focusing on now.

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I don't, cause I can only really comment on the pods. We didn't do the second portion. I'll still comment on it though. Everyone can have an opinion.

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Yeah. You already use it better than me. You haven't even seen it. Yeah. Like that made sense.

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Everyone with me just was like, this guy seems like the worst.

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I mean, I had comments because of the thing, because I didn't seem to be sad about my family. There was a whole Reddit thread insinuating that I murdered my family. And they need to call the police on me because I seem to have display sociopathic tendencies.

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Yeah, I mean, I think the cape is very small.

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But I'm doing my small little part. You're doing your small part.

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So this one has to do actually with me and Hannah.

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Like me freaking out at her in the pods, all that stuff. Like, I think I might've seen her like once at like a random thing, but basically we didn't talk. I don't think we like hated each other, but we just didn't talk. It felt weird. And when I learned that I was going to the reunion, I felt like very, I didn't know if I should like call her beforehand. Do I save for like, I was super conflicted.

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I was actually like really, really like stressing about it. And I ended up calling Garrett and I was like, should I like apologize to Hannah before? And I start like weeping. I'm like crying uncontrollably. And he's like, I was like, I don't want her to think that like an apology, the reunion would be like performative. You know what I mean? And he's like, you sound genuine.

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You should, I think you should call her. So I call, I hang up and I call Hannah right afterwards. And I'm like, crying my eyes out and I'm like, I'm so sorry. I never really said sorry. And I'm like, I just, it was so unbecoming of me and all this stuff. And she was like, first of all, she was like, first of all, I forgive you. Second of all, I've lived like so much more of my life since then.

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It's like a tiny chapter. And then we ended up like chatting for like an hour and a half, just about like the show and life. And so I guess what maybe isn't as known is that the real apology to her was like a week before the reunion off camera. And so that's why like in the reunion it was, I just, and I felt very like spiritually cleansed that I wasn't like doing it as like a performance.

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Yeah, I actually do think I would have. And I think that I, like I thought really hard about it because I, I, if I would have done that, it probably actually would have looked better for me. Like, Oh my, no, I think it would be like, Oh my God, he's crying about it. He feels so bad. But I was like, she doesn't deserve like, cause if someone was in that situation and I saw them crying, I'd be like,

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are you still like saving this for the camera? So I actually like used my like emotional card off camera. So then I felt like she got the real deal thing and didn't like have this performance.

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Thanks. Yeah, I know It's not like the spiciest.

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I feel like it's bad to say someone who's married.

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You know who I think is absolutely one of the most gorgeous, amazing women that I think is like absolutely Lauren from season one.

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I was like in love with her watching that screen.

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Beautiful, educated, smart. She seems like a great person. I think she was like, I think she was like the full package. Yeah. So if I would have gone on, if I, if I could go on, maybe that's like more answering if I could have like married somebody. Okay. Yeah. But I think she would have been, I think she was like, she's still married.

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I know it was, you know, it was just, I'm happy for her.

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There was like less chance for there to be some like super dramatic. And I also feel like we're lucky. We don't have like, I don't know. I feel like neither of us have like drama with anybody else. Like we're all pretty friendly with the rest of the folks.

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That's good money is crazy. She's like, there's always going to be a body. I can overlook a thing or two. Oh my God. I'm kidding.

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Not really. That's an incredible answer.

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Oh, that's funny. That's good money. Okay, Freddie.

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I'm going to go home. Okay. I love that for you.

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No, we'll just be friends like I am with every single girl that I meet apparently.

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I'd be there an hour early. Where were you? You'd be like, I'm right on time.

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I once went out with a girl that I really wanted to go out with. And we went to like a casual restaurant. And then somehow afterwards, she convinced me to take her to Target. And she didn't have a car at the time. And so I took her to Target and we went shopping. And I didn't pay for the stuff at Target. She really tried to, but I didn't. And she got very mad and didn't talk to me again.

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So you were, where did the date start? Where did the date start?

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The date started at like a, it's my kind of girl. I kind of respect it. Looking back at it, honestly.

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So I started at like a, kind of like a fancy-ish pizza place. Okay. Like an Italian-ish restaurant.

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And it was like an early dinner. It was like 5.30.

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No, it was more like one of those, no, we didn't take pizza to go. That would have been funny though, actually.

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I should have just added that for the story.

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I feel like it was like, like a hundred to 150 bucks. That's a lot.

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You know, it would be good. She was like, she kind of pulled the like, can we go to Target? And I was like, what?

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And I was simping very hard. And so I ended up like taking her to Target. And then I remember thinking to myself like, there's no way she's gonna try and get me to pay for the Target card, right? But I was starting to get the sense. And then afterwards she was like, why would you take me to Target? Like, you're not even gonna pay for my stuff at Target.

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And for a moment I actually thought I was like, am I being a jerk right now? And then I was like, no, no, no, Leo, come on, snap back to reality. And so then that was the, and I'm so ashamed to admit this, I asked her if she wanted to go out again. And this is back in former days, back in former days, back in former days.

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She never told that story before.

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I don't know if she had like this master plan or if she just was like in the moment and I was just along for the ride.

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But it was her world and I was living in it.

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Maybe she's upgrading. Maybe now she's like walking around restoration hardware or something. CB2. With the whole couch. Right, right, right.

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That's a really good one. I've, I would say two things. I've noticed that like, I would have thought having, after having gone through this and, maybe getting recognized and stuff and getting invited to places I wouldn't normally get invited to. I'd want to be like, let me meet everybody. But I've actually also become more like selective on like, I feel like I almost have two versions of myself.

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I have like smiley like version, like, can I take a selfie? Sure. And then I have like the, the me that I let very few people see. I mean, it's like versions of another person. And then I think the other thing is I've become like a lot more religious in the past. Like, I don't know, six months or so, really since the show.

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And I feel like to each their own, but for me, like when I was going through the worst of it, like feeling that there was like a higher power looking over me and that all this was going to happen for a reason, I think helped me not carry a lot of anger. And then also I think helped me indirectly get the very, very fortunate like redemption arc that I got. So I would say like,

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faith or just, just believing that it's all going to be okay in the end. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. Well, Brittany knew, I feel like you knew more than I knew.

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I mean, I was saying it and she wasn't saying it back. So in hindsight, it's pretty, it's pretty obvious that we wouldn't go. And I mean, they weren't, wrong. They said we were the weakest couple and it's, you know, we're not married. We are, we're a strong friendship couple, but that's not what the show's about. But yeah, I was like crushed.

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Like I was super, I mean, who wouldn't want to continue with the experience? So I was super, super crushed when it happened.

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Yeah, I think I would have gone. Yeah. I feel like where we had ended was like, we felt like we wanted to continue seeing where it went, but it wasn't like we were like, oh my God, we're like so amazing, engaged, like ready to be married like tomorrow. So I feel like we would have wanted that, which is actually why we like went to Miami.

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Like we wanted to do our own off-camera version of what would be the life.

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I know, this is where everybody wants, I wish that we had some like amazing tea that like, like some super spicy situation. But honestly, no, what I mean, how I felt was like, it became very like clear that there's a big difference between

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our proposal which probably was a weak proposal as the producers picked up on and then like actually getting married yeah and i feel like we realized that we were just clearly better as friends i mean that's like what that part of the like experiment is about like we were like hanging out together and it just was i don't know it became clear pretty quickly and then we kind of ended it like okay i think we're gonna be in each other's lives but we're not we're not tying the knot yeah it

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But like when you're in the pods and you're like getting, like you, it gets so deep so fast. It's, I feel like it, like there are couples that talk about, should we just take like a step back and not get married? It never works out.

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You wouldn't, you wouldn't, no one would talk to me without it.

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I haven't been dating that much, I gotta be honest. I'm boring. Oh no. Since the, okay, so first of all.

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I've been following you on Instagram. You know, I see what goes on. So don't get on here talking about I'm not dating.

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She's a friend. She's a friend. She truly is.

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Yeah, a really good friend, but a friend.

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No, first of all, when the show was coming out, like, you know, we weren't supposed to date during the, like, release or, like, as it got up.

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Can I see this one? Oh, I hope that happens.

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Then during the actual release of the show when I looked like, like, I'm not going to go on a date when everyone hates me. Like, I don't want to do that. And so I'm just starting to get out there. And I've gone on a couple dates, but... I think one of the most like different things about going through the pods is everyone talks about like, oh, you don't see the person.

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That's obviously a big thing. But I think even more impactful is how intentional it is. Like you have this end point. It's like you got to get engaged in like 10 days. And that's where I feel like I've become way more upfront. And maybe it freaks some people out. Because even if you don't want something serious and you're like, are you looking for something serious? Because I'm not or something.

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There's still like, why are you like chill? And I was like, no, no, I can't.

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Oh yeah. Like, like to like, like a, like a flashcard thing. That's actually a great idea.

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We would all be like, maybe, maybe not. Did you guys have any awkward prompts?

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And it's actually got my, you know, there's a little bit of something about it. Look at you knowing your stuff.

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But, like, looking back, how do you feel?

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Oh, geez. You know, first of all, that was like a comment that Brittany made. I feel like you also made that as like half a joke when you said it.

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And so it wasn't like Brittany was telling me like, I want to be a trophy wife. And I'm like, yes, that's what I'm looking for. Like, I never saw you as that at all. But I guess...

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you know it's funny because I feel like it's something that has like a negative connotation to it but I feel like it it doesn't have to like if you're I guess the kind of person that just wants to be like like a rich controlling jerk who just wants the wife to not say anything then I get that as a trigger but I feel like I do like the thought of like like loving my wife so much that she feels like a trophy like wow like look what I like look what I got like

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look at this like maybe it's like bad to say prize but i feel like i feel like a guy should be like so proud of his wife and like yes like there's nothing wrong with that yeah like like yeah oh in that sense in that sense i kind of do want a trophy wife yeah you just want to be proud of yeah exactly i love that there's nothing wrong with that and i definitely want my wife to do stuff whether it's work or have passions i couldn't like personally no shade against the the whole trad wife thing but i it's just not for me i don't think i could

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It's actually got engraved on the back. It's got like my grandparents engraving. They got it for my great grandfather. It was like my great grandfather was born like very, very poor. And then my grandparents, the ones that made money. So this was like the like we made it like watch.

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I think I need to come home and have my wife want to talk to me about stuff that she's been doing too.

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You are so positive. You're like, you can do it. The world needs more of you guys. I swear the world needs more of y'all.

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It is yours. Here it is. Okay. Did I just get a card? Stamped.

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You guys are so... Are we too nice? How did you ask that?

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Reality TV needs more people like you guys. You guys are just like, we're happy for everyone.

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Okay. Is that something you want to share? What is the truth? Because I think, I know I want to know. And I know there was a lot of lies spewed. There was a lot of omitting. What is the truth?

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Okay. What, what did you find?

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Did she know he was going on the show?

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Is he a sperm donor or no? No.

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I'm gonna be so real with you right now. Kinda how we started this interview and how loud and bold you were. And I'm not saying let's dismantle him, but you deserve this platform to speak your truth and make it all make sense. And I wanna give you that space to say what needs to be said. And I don't want you to feel like you have to feel muted or the world is gonna attack you.

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You've made it through worse. But I do want you to know that this is a space where, okay, this is Ashley's fucking turn. This is your turn. You've protected him enough. He didn't protect you. And I'm not saying let's dog him out. But what is the truth to your comfort level so that we can just get an understanding of why, one, where all this stuff came from, why he lied, why you stayed.

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I just want to be able to piece it together so that you have some peace.

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How messy? Like how messy. And it also is like, how do you think you're going to come on a global TV show with all these skeletons in your closet and think no one is going to dig it up? You're lying to your fiance. You're lying to everyone and thinking that none of this is going to show up. And then how unfortunate to drag you into that.

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The truth, right. Yeah.

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So you, you don't think he was ready for marriage?

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Did he believe he was ready for marriage? He presented.

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Because you guys did seem extremely like, despite him being the donor and whatever, you guys seem pretty healthy. And were there any red flags that you probably may be looking back on now see, or maybe we missed?

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That's a double whammy. You know what? I'm going to stray a little bit because you and I both know how extensive our background checks are for this damn show. Like social media, literal background checks. How did this slip through? You slipped through.

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Christmas pajamas. Yeah. That was insane.

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That's so scary. It's very scary.

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Okay. So do you feel like standing by him? Like, was more of a pressure from him? Because at the reunion, you stood very strong, which I do still think is honorable because that is your husband. At that point in time, that is your husband. Do you feel like there was any pressure from him to stay in your marriage? And stand so strong by him?

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He allowed you to be loud, wrong.

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Don't say shit else.

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And the thing is, he got quieter and like left you to dry. I was getting it more than him.

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Heard, heard. So how has it been kind of transitioning from being married and being married in such a public-facing way to now transitioning back into being single?

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What's there to say? How was it watching Tyler be like exposed on TV and the Internet and everything?

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How did he protect you, if at all, during this time?

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When did your discernment kick in? Like when were you like, enough is enough?

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It can't get no worse than this. Yeah.

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How did you approach the decision to go public with your breakup?

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Yeah. I'm going to drag you. Yeah. Yeah. So are you guys divorced?

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You know. Okay. So were you nervous to see how people would react to the breakup announcement? And what has the response been like?

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Well, people were preying on your downfall.

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You know? And the most cruel, disgusting... a way I have ever seen people prey on someone. And it came from, again, inside the house.

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And I don't want to say no one's name in particular, but there is a very loud presence on the internet that just, it was almost like she was just sitting there waiting.

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So people are saying that they're making videos to protect the kids?

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Why are we so passionate about other people's business like that to the point where it needs to be hurtful? Like, there's so many things that I saw. I was like, how is this helpful? How is this helpful?

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Mm hmm. Don't you think? What I say to you at the reunion.

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No, you would not. You know what's sickening is the show... By the time the show came out, it was a year already had passed. So people are yelling, screaming at the TV, talking about, we're trying to save you.

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Too late. And it's so weird that people can't, like calculate a timeline to save their lives. Well, we tried to tell you not to marry him. When? When I was filming a year ago, you were trying to tell, what am I to do now? And how is this helpful? I think that we have such a battle with, again, the, I'm trying to help you. I'm trying to tell you.

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like that for me was like really sad because I just know as women and as black women and this is something that I have just said on repeat and repeat and repeat on this couch but like the way we protect these men and it's just like the like I can see it in my head you just like some of the things that you were saying like some y'all never been married and it shows like

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So I see you in the gym, traveling, you're outside, girls night.

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you want to protect yourself. You want to protect your man. And he just got quieter and quivered in the corner.

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But this is my husband.

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Right. I don't care if it's true or not.

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Yeah. I think that people want you to look sad and be down and like people hate to see you trying to grow and heal. And like, so is that weird to like post like, oh, I'm out with my girls on social media and knowing that the world is like, how come she's not down, down and out?

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Have you spoken to him in the past few months at all? No.

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Right. Is he still doing like events and stuff?

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Do you think he's wanting fame? What do you think were his intentions for all of this?

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Thank you. I mean, looking great, should I say? Yeah. So, I mean, okay, I'm going to be completely honest with you. My listeners have not stopped begging. When I say begging, I mean begging to have you on this podcast because we're Because what the fuck? No, like everybody's just, we want to know what's going on. I want to know what's going on.

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Yeah. We need a motive.

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Right. I don't know. I'll never know. Yeah.

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Do you think you would ever do a sit down?

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So how has the experience changed the way you see love and commitment?

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Do you think there's anything you would have done differently in your relationship or how you handled the breakup?

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Yeah. In my opinion, we've heard enough about Tyler. Yeah. Let's take an exhale.

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What is bringing you joy or helping you heal in this new chapter?

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So what do you hope to leave behind in all of this?

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Clean slate with an ass.

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Right. Do you feel like you have like a nice support system around you?

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yeah that would be a cute title for a spin-off right hello um is there anything that you want to clear up that you feel like maybe you want to leave with the people that you want to say that you haven't gotten a chance to say or maybe that's been on your heart to be like listen this is the this is the period to that story like let's end it off on this note

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Right, desperate for what?

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And maybe let's not take it on as a personal battle. Take it on as a personal battle.

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I agree. I said it once, I'll say it a zillion times. I think you're amazing. Thank you. You're so loving. Great energy. So educated. So beautiful. So I already know next time I see you, you're going to be like, girl, are you dating?

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You're going to be just fine. You're going to be just fine. I know that. And I need to come. Where are you, D.C.? I'm...

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We need. We've been saying this for a very long time.

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Yeah. We could just kick back, take you to brunch. You know I'm in L.A. now. I know. I am here. I am a resident. Forever. For now.

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I'm trying to go to London. Oh, really?

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Yeah. Is that an exclusive? No, we're going to stay here for a little bit and then eventually make our way to London. Nice. From Charlotte to LA. Yeah. But this has been such a blessing having you here. And I do want to just thank you because I know this is not easy.

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Like we laugh and we kiki a bit, but this is real, a real divorce, a real relationship, real feelings, real people involved, real children involved, your real life involved. And I just want to thank you for like, One, feeling comfortable enough to share that with me. I feel really honored. And two, that you're opening up and giving your story and telling people this is my reality.

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This is my truth. So I'm really grateful for you. And I wish nothing but healing and blessings and opportunities for you because you deserve it.

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Are you doing anything like in particular, I know you said you're like kind of working out and hanging out with some of your home girls, but are you doing anything in particular that's like helping you get through this whole transition?

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Oh, girl. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're on the other side. I am.

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you survived the battle you survived the war um so thank you again thank you and thank you guys for listening to another episode of what's the reality be sure to follow me on all social platforms at what's the reality pod subscribe on youtube and i will see you next wednesday bye y'all

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Yeah, I love my therapist. Girl. I got therapy tomorrow, girl. Yeah, I got it next week. Listen, let's talk more therapy. LIB and just how we got here. Okay. Rewind. How do you feel like the revelation of Tyler coming out with the whole children thing impacted, like in the beginning, all the way up until now, impacted your marriage?

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And like, to be like completely honest and transparent, we have not spoke at all. I mean, obviously some well-wished texts back and forth, but this is the first time I'm sitting face to face with you since reunion. Yeah.

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Okay, welcome back to What's the Reality? I have a really, really special guest with me today. My love is blind sister, Ashley. We all know she's had quite the journey and she's finally here opening up for the very first time about her truth versus the lies. So I'm happy to have you. Welcome. Thank you. How are you? I'm good.

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Okay, let's like break this down for people that might not understand this like five part series sperm donor situation. What we saw and what was presented to us is that Tyler was a sperm donor to the children. And then reunion, that's all we know. And then post reunion, it comes out that he was the father parent to the twins. Tell me about this five-part series and what is the truth?

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Catch me up on you. Yeah. On everything that you've been up to since I last saw you.

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Now you're looking at him. He's looking at you. Like... What is... How is he... Send me to the wolves. Yeah. How is he back in the... What is his... What is he saying? He's saying it's not true.

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Okay. So break down the five parts a little bit more because I'm not going to be, I'm not going to lie. I didn't watch past the two seconds of it because I'm like this one, this is taking it too far. Yeah. This is like love is blind after dark. Like this don't got shit to do with me.

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And it was everywhere. It was everywhere. So if you want to break it down a little bit or however you feel comfortable telling us like what all, because you don't need five parts to say we had sex.

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Cause that's what he said.

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Did you actually ever get the truth from this man? Or did you get what you think was the truth?

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Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.

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I protected him so much.

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Perfect Match was like life changing for me. I mean, it was much more like attention and just like a lot more people like asking your opinions on different things. So honestly, it's been humbling and it's been very busy. Some people that I could never imagine working with will be working together soon. So everything's been good. It's just taking it all in day by day.

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Also, way to empower a woman on one of their most magical, special days. And I can guarantee you just probably from experience, most of them are women, right? I got a lot of hate dudes that follow me too. Oh, really?

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Because they take the narrative of, like, who you are, in a sense, and kind of, like, over-exaggerate it sometimes.

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Mm-mm. You know these reality TV people sometimes, though.

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You're like, let us know if you want to talk to someone.

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Yeah. You want to crawl into a hole.

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Oh, eyes on me. Pop off, baby. I think one of the things that I really do to take time for me, even though this is... It's not necessarily me, but I feel like it's such a big part of me that it just calms me down is talking to my mom. Honestly, that's like the biggest thing for me because... Shout out mom. Yeah, shout out to my mom. I love you, Mela.

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There it is. Okay, so I met him recently, actually. We've only been together for about six months. But it's just one of those things where when you know, you know. He's become like my best friend very quick. And I randomly met him where I was like coming over a sickness like I am today. Funny. And I had no lashes on, no makeup on. No, you guys.

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She's just, she really just allows me to have a space sometimes to just like vent. And I think I'm a yapper. So me... Hello. Are you? It's a shock. I've never heard you say a thing in my life. No, it's the first time I've ever heard you speak. All right, exit the building. She just kind of gives me that space. And for me, me time isn't being alone. I like to be around people. I'm very like that.

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So talking to my mom is something that is weirdly me time, as well as taking time to get ready for myself and just like even if it's going for a walk or grabbing a coffee for me that's me time like i don't need much honestly i'm very much a people person so my mom is my me time i love that honestly that's beautiful because i love my mom yeah nothing's like a good fence tension with your mom

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I know. I'm like, I can't wait to be a mom so I can show her well. Yeah, you will.

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You're going to thrive in mommyhood. I actually can't wait, but we got time.

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I can't wait, but we got time.

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I know, but I love being around you guys, too, because especially being Greek, you know, like, such a big push on, like, having kids, getting married, et cetera. Oh, girl, you got time.

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We're, like, career-driven. It's big, so. Yeah. You got it, baby. Okay.

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Like I have no problem saying no. Like I feel like that is something you should practice. No, I'm thinking about it.

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Yeah, you have to sometimes. Saying no is big. I feel like being with your partner, we can all relate to, is kind of also a sense where it's like, because you're living together, you're having your life together as well. So sometimes it's like things come with that. Life hits, priorities hit. And going out for coffee or going to catch up with someone isn't top of the priority list.

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different shit going on especially when you're career driven too I mean we can all relate like and especially with what we do your social battery is just like dunzo oh my god talk about it yeah talk about it yes yeah that's one thing that's going to change when you hit 30 oh I'm already over it my friends are like I was going to invite you but I already knew you were going to say no I'm like thank you so much for thinking of me your friend I'm gonna keep yes to you right right

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Honestly, there's not, at least from what I see, there's not enough representation of like Persians or Greeks or European or in general. Or black girls. There's so many, right? Like there's so many. Me too. Yeah, amen. Like there's just so many representations and I feel like... not everyone is given the opportunities we are.

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Like, the day I was just looking... They said, we're looking for a gremlin.

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And it's just important to just show people like, yeah, I'm a reality TV personality and an influencer, but I'm also just a Greek girl that likes to make like with her mom on Sundays. And like, it means the world. And also from where I come from, at least in Greece, you know, there's not that many famous people coming out to America or just coming out in general. And

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Sometimes even us going to events or going to our big shopping malls in Beverly Center like they'll never experience that in their lives and it's almost like watching TV for them to see our TikToks or our Instagram so just like that thought at the end of the night when I'm like putting my head on my pillow like I love I love to be at least a good representation. That's beautiful.

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I'm like a naked mole rat. I don't even have lashes on. I wish I looked like a gremlin. My Bobbiana was fresh out the shower. But I just wanted a tattoo. And he is a very well-known tattoo artist here in LA and also in Greece. Everyone's like... I know, I'm like, oh my God, I'm giving too much away.

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I was like, half, yes. The representation. I'll claim full. Yeah. Yeah, the cultures are definitely a little bit more, can be a little bit more outdated. I mean, all over the world, right? It all depends sometimes where you're from, but. My mom had a heart attack when I told her I was going on Perfect Match. But she also knew I was going. Has she seen Perfect Match before you went on? Yeah.

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And when she saw the kissing challenge, she was like, I was like, I didn't even kiss that many. Well, I lied. I'm not going to say that.

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He left. He left for a second. If I were to choose AD, only kissed one person.

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Did you get a tattoo? Oh my God, but he didn't do them, so don't judge it, okay? I got like four, three finger tattoos that you can't even see. Hold up, hold up.

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Honestly, the circle was the most lighthearted, fun way to get into reality TV. Like it was so, even the fights, like when we all met up at the end of the day, it was like, oh my God, I never meant it. And like everyone from the circle is still friends on like Perfect Match. So it was a little different. It was just a different kind of show. Perfect Match had a lot more secrets though. Yeah.

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It's like you're giving your partner a pass. I could never.

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I can imagine. Because never mind just seeing random people throughout your day or being around people that could show you the grass is greener or something, but actually living with that person.

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It becomes your real world, even though it's so not. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You just think you're in this like different reality.

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If you're in Boston, it'll be six hours to get to Canada, which is nothing.

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And what are your ages? Like, how long are we going to do this for?

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So he was, well, he came to talk to me. And honestly, it's like the spice is coming in. But he just like randomly came to talk to me at the front desk. And he said my last name in such a Greek way. He's like, and I was like, whoosh. Who said that? And then it just was like, I mean, the first convo was like kids, marriage, everything.

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No, but she's asking this now in 2025. We will answer it in the new way, Roxanne. In the new way, I say break up. I'm sorry. What are you doing? Honestly, I would say make a decision. Someone's got to move.

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There's only so many cute FaceTime dates that you can do.

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And you get bored. I mean, there really is. I was long distance for like two weeks. I was over it. Come on. I moved in with my man a month after meeting him.

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Send each other care packages. She didn't mean it.

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Oh, ask him to borrow your Bible, his Bible or something. Everybody's Bible is on the app. Oh, that's how much I go to church.

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Just do it. Just go up to him, wear your nicest church dress. I'm serious, say good morning, enjoy the service together, and then ask your thoughts. What'd you think about that? What stuck out to you today? Did God send you a message?

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There you go, just give him a spirit.

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Good luck with that advice. Write and let me know how it went. Get a bedazzled Bible and be like, you want to touch it?

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Have you ever been to church? She's like, yes, actually.

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I go like, you know, Sunday here, Sunday there. I'm so sorry for my three people watching. Oh, listen, LV.

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So it was just, I went from like not believing in the male species. That's how it happened. To being like, wow, like there's really amazing guys out there.

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I was going to say, I feel like maybe give it some, only because you never know their ages too, right?

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Yeah, move to the next. Yeah. Let's just move on. You're not crazy, but move on.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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It was two months. You have 200 more years to go.

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Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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But they are a match. And we like them. I'm a clingy girl. I'd rather be handcuffed to you for a week. I'm opposite. I'm sorry, Roxanne.

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Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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Make me the rich villain. Right. Amen.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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Rich villain. I've done the sweetheart girls, girl. I got nothing. Make me the villain.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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Okay, I'd rather the ultimatum-ish vibe. That way he can see that the grass isn't greener rather than like a bunch of girls shaking booty in front of my man's face like, hello. Are you kidding?

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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It's way worse. That's way worse.

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Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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And tempting is also like, what are you doing?

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Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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I hate those comments. It's like, be confident in yourself. It's like, I am, and I have a lot of respect for myself, which is why I move the way I move. Thank you very much.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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And the bathing suits come off. Have you watched Temptation Island? No. The baby suits are coming off? I mean, probably off camera for sure. You know what it is.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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For me it was cringy at least because typically I like, I'm very, I'm much more conservative when it comes to my relationships, never mind me doing reality TV. So I typically date men that are a little bit more conservative and sometimes that comes with them being a little bit more old fashioned. So one time we were on a date And everything was fine. Everything was good. Food's done now.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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And like the server hasn't came over yet. And we're at like a fine dining restaurant. And the server hasn't came over yet to like pick up the plates. And he basically makes this gesture to me kind of like, No, no, no, no. Maybe never. He makes the gesture kind of like, aren't you going to put the plates together for that? You? Me. As a woman, clear the table a bit type thing.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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Yeah, so I think the hardest part for me, especially after my father passed away four years ago, which for a lot of people is like, oh, that's so long, but not when it's somebody so close to you. So I think the hardest part was leaving my mom because her and my father were together since they were 16. So imagine being in love, but also kids growing up together.

What's the Reality?

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And the way he did it was so weird. He sat back and he was like, And at first I didn't get it. And I was like, huh? And I'm like, he does not want me to take the plates and move them for the service so we can have like a clean conversation. I was like, no. That was so cringe for me. Like a man just expecting. Did you move the plates? Baby, I moved my butt and called an Uber is what I did.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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not when you're like pushing it onto me and also we're at like a dinner like we're on a date we're not at the house I don't and also like if my middle step would be like pick up my plate I'd be like I'm breaking plates on you that's the Greek way of doing it so that was like the cringiest for me it was very that was cringe just listening to it I'd have been like yeah right I was like oh I'll move get up thank you what ew I don't like that do you have any cringe dating stories I don't think I can tell mine oh why not no I think I will cut it say it and we'll decide okay this one's pretty fucked

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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You're not doing it, so off I go.

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Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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So it's been really hard in that aspect. And then, you know, just like the normal everyday, like your friends, just missing my friends. LA out here, people are a little flaky. Not really my cup of tea. But other than that, we just got to teach them a little bit of East Coast decorum.

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Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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Gross. Especially because you didn't like him.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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Okay, this one I thought about too the minute I got off the show. So obviously now I'm in a relationship, but when I was off the show and I was single, I realized that it was okay to date multiple people at the same time. And I feel like a lot of people see like, that being wrong or you're playing other people. But like, I was very open with everyone and who I was dating at the time.

What's the Reality?

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And it was just kind of like, dating is serious, especially when you date to marry like myself, but it doesn't have to be. And sometimes you lose out opportunities on like, not trying someone different that wouldn't be your normal type. And like I really branched off and really just dated somebody or just started dating people that weren't necessarily exactly my quote unquote type.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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And it followed me to the future. And yeah, I just think you should definitely broaden your horizons because sometimes what you think you like versus what you actually like and need and what works for you can be totally different. Yeah. So it actually worked out for me.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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Yeah, like I've booked photo shoots. They were like for 10 a.m. They get canceled at like 8 a.m. You're like getting your makeup done. It's just like very LA to be flaky, I feel.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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And you know us from the East Coast, we're like, set a time, we'll be there like 15 minutes early, and if we're running late, we'll send a text.

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I will. I'll send you a picture later.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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And when you meet good people who like get it. That part.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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Well, look, it's very flaky culture in L.A. Other than that, it's been it's been great.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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You saw she threw that in there? She's like, we're not going to go expensive. Two weddings.

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Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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Oh my God, so, okay, when you're going into the circle, you know you're playing a game, right? Where when you're going into like a dating show, like Perfect Match, where it's just a bunch of people already on reality TV, already have their fame or their name, like you have to kind of question everything. So it turns into a game almost.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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I think with the circle, I just had so much more fun, even though it was competitive, but I just had so much fun where Perfect Match, I was so stressed, honestly, all the time up until I realized, there was no match there for me. But once I found that out, everybody was like, she's on vacay. Like, wouldn't you be after these? Like, hello?

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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But it was just more nerve wracking and also dealing with people that you just don't know whether what's real or what's not. And throughout the day or even throughout a week, you want a break once in a while. And I feel like perfect match was just go, go, go, go, go. Like date somebody, get to know somebody, learn the tea, defend somebody, go tell that person what that person's man said.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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Listen, good minds think alike, baby. That's crazy. That's crazy. I was like, are we on a date?

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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So it's all a game. Just perfect match was more, I would say,

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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There was so much drama. There was so much.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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Girl, I know you guys know what your marriage and all. I know.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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so it gets different but you're just dealing with much more personalities and you're like living with them 24 7 so what what show would you say best fit your personality perfect match or the circle definitely the circle because i would never date 10 men at a time who that's a headache yeah that's a migraine i can't imagine i did one i did a couple but like you know like i can't imagine 10 and you know you want to give everyone a shot but not everyone

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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I mean, I know that's me saying it though, right? Everyone had a chance. You know, we do a little speed dating in the beginning. They get to pick and choose or whatever. I mean, I'm definitely sat there like I'm looking at this guy. I'm like, it's already done.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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I mean, for the most part, the minute I walked in, it was immediately. That's a whole other story.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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Yes. So there are definitely... I heard her take a deep... I was like... There was a deep breath.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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You know me or whatever. I'm trying to be nice or whatever. There are definitely... I'll put it this way. The people for the most part... And I mean, of course, you could say this about me. You could say this for about whoever who goes on these shows. But...

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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The people who you think are the most chill, are the most relatable, are the most like girls, girls are like usually the complete opposite and behind the camera, won't even talk to you, won't get dinner. Because there's times where we could get dinner together or just like chill before a photo shoot. Like some of the girls didn't even want to do that.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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And also there was like a lot of chatter with girls that would talk about other women's appearances, talk about, you know, their hygiene. I don't vibe with girls like that. So I don't want to claim anyone as like a mean girl, but you know, you don't have to be a good girl's girl to be a good person. And there was just a lot of mean girl energy in the villa. Like, honey, I don't want your man.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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So actually my perfect matches were my girls. So I'm very cool with Christine. That's my girl from the show. It's so funny because everyone thinks that's so crazy, but like off camera, like my girl has such a beautiful heart. Dominique, that's my lover. That's my wifey or whatever. Everyone was rooting for us. I still get comments like, we're waiting for you to get out the closet.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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Come on. Right. Tell your man who's taking a walk. But and then I'm very cool with Britain and I don't have beef with anyone on the show. I don't really indulge in that bullshit. But other than that, those are my people for now.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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Oh my God. So I just moved to LA.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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Oh my God, yes. You know what? At the end of the day, you got your trophy.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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Exactly. Honestly, just ignore all the advice. Ignore all the bullshit because... The people that hate on you will leave, like, will leave your comment section after months.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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I'm an LA girlie now. So I'm just kind of like acclimating to the new culture out here, being from the East Coast. East Coast girlies unite. Forever, whatever.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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But the people that ride for you will forever support your journey.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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It's crazy because the whole conversation before, too, is just... Yeah.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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And now we're both, well, you're actually wifed up. We're getting there, though. Right? No stop. Cause then we were both talking about perfect match.

What's the Reality?

Perfect Match Meets The Ultimatum: Xanthi & Roxanne Unfiltered

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And I'm just trying to bring the East Coast vibe to the West Coast. Like, go, go, go. Just continuing, you know, enjoying life.

What's the Reality?

Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel

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Well, what kind of connection? What are we talking? I think you just wanted to say hi. Girl. Did you guys say hi? No. Okay. No.

What's the Reality?

Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel

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Yeah. So keep that about you. Thank you.

Will & Rusty's Playdate

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Yeah, it's like maybe we can instead get a roller coaster on top of our podcast studio. Maybe like every five minutes.

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uh dude are you are you a roller coaster guy i love roller coasters i wasn't for a long time same that i got over in thanksgiving yeah you did tell me that i got over when i was like 10 but like yeah it's so i was trying because i was one of those people that was scared of it yeah and trying to convince someone who is still scared that like dude it's awesome yeah it's just an impossible task i don't even it was a miracle that i got over it yeah what's your favorite coaster

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You know, I've really only gone on them. I grew up going to Hershey Park. So my favorite is probably the Great Bear. You hang like you're like in a thing hanging. Oh, nice. Your feet are just floating in the air. Yeah. Fahrenheit is a cool one. They got one called Skyrush that it was innovative when it came out. It only clamps your legs. Your torso is completely undone.

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That's what fucking Velocicoaster does. Yeah. And it's terrifying. I don't like it because then I'd fucking hit my head. Dude, you go upside down. Yeah, it's crazy. And there's nothing over your shoulders. Yeah, I think you do. I think I'm... Yes. It was... I think I'm yes. The greatest...

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That thing looks like it... It's so fun. Like a light breeze would knock it over. Dude, they want to... Oh!

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Oh, that looks like the Sidewinder. Does it go up and stop and then come back?

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No, that one looks like there's no... Yeah, that definitely doesn't go over.

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Okay, well... Oh, I see, I see. No, no, but that's a different part of it. Hagrid's does that, where you go, you shoot through this fog, and then you get up, and it looks like the tracks are broken. So you're like, first time, even as like a... Oh, fuck. The first time I went on it, I was like 18 or 19, and I still was like... Oh, my God. The track is missing. It just broke.

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I love those pictures. That's obviously not real. Obviously not. For obvious reasons. I know. But then you go up, and it stops, and it goes back. Look at the Sidewinder. Google the Sidewinder.

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what do you mean you were not even looking you were looking directly at the screen wait was that not the one that went up and down oh i might have said it wrong that looks fucking hershey park comment down below your favorite real put hershey park at the end comment down below your favorite chocolate bar her see oh my god dude i have the one that goes up and down This looks like it's from 1950.

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It's like in the winter? I'm pretty sure it goes up and then back down. But I can't remember anymore. You know I've been snack maxing lately? Yes. Perpetually. That didn't even occur to me. That was probably a brutal couple minutes for the audio.

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How thin is his car?

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Wait, did they rename it?

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oh my god really the sidewinder oh god my world's going to shit how much do you think jolly rancher paid for that they it's hershey park it's internal pro yeah i guess like they probably were like sitting down like why this is such a wasted opportunity Yeah. Hershey Burger's sick. I like the... These are all sorts of chocolate.

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It was fucking bananas. He was in an escalator and there were times where I was like, oh! We'd be like going 40 miles an hour and there are parked cars. Yeah. And I just had to trust that Frant was going to get back in. You think those guys get off on that? Yeah. Okay. Glad we got to the bottom of that. That was pretty cut and dry. Open and close. No, I don't know.

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The Hershey, like, football team is, like, their colors are, like, chocolate and gold.

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They got the Hershey Bears, too. Yeah. I think Wilt Chamberlain scored 100 points in Hershey. Dude, you know they also claim... What? He didn't do it? No, I was going to say, they also claim that the reason you can't dunk, like he used to, he was so bad at free throws that he just started jumping from the free throw line and dunking it.

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And then you Google it and they're like, yeah, I mean, there's no, there's no evidence, only like stories. And it's like, have we ever considered that the reason he has all these crazy, like folk-like stories about him is just because people were like, just making it up? Yeah, it was like the war and they wanted something to believe in. I don't know. Because of the war? I don't even know a war.

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Yeah, wait, what should we do for 100?

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All right. On episode 100. Feeding frenzy. We see how much stuff we can eat. We just turn into a mukbang channel. On episode 100. You muk, I'll bang. On episode 100. If you comment on it... Yes. Also, maybe we should figure this out off air, but I'm just spitballing right now.

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Episode 100, if you comment on the Spotify or the YouTube, we will pick one of each, and they get to run the merch gauntlet. They get one of everything. I'm good with that. We should also do something special for the episode, though. Yeah, that's what we'll do. Yeah, I guess I was thinking. Wait, what episode is this?

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Wait, Lauren, put a picture of one of them for .2 seconds so they can't even pause it. All right.

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I think it's like, I think it's like you get a certain, they're not getting any more money the longer they're in the car. So it's just like, I need to make this as quick as possible to get my. Yeah. Like it makes sense from like a business perspective, but I also feel like at some point it's like, all right, maybe you're saving a few bucks. I think you just get off on this. Yeah.

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Episodes. Tavares? Wasn't he 91? How do I? Oh, yeah. I was going to look up. I was going to try to figure out when we're going to hit 100. I know.

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In four and a half weeks. Yeah. Yeah. I guess you're right.

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Oh, my God. 100th episode with no Lauren. Google Tavares number.

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Can we get like a Google 100 episode no Lauren? Google John Tavares number.

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I think that's a good call. Yeah. I don't know how. Tavares. Lauren, a pretty bad.

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That might be our first one where we've gotten it on the first try. I think I got one. Oh, I got CeeDee Lamb the other day. Also, Lauren, typically a safe bet is vowels in between the consonants. It is hockey, though.

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She didn't know that. Let's do that hockey. Wait, I think for 100 episodes, we should have 100 guests on. And Paige has been begging me to do this. Wait, that was all right. We already have that idea. I'm joking. Paige hated that. Yeah. Oh, she hated that we have that idea? No, no. She just hated how we were like, yeah, we're just going to do 100 guys on the podcast.

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Am I crazy for thinking it won't be as big of a lift as we think?

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i think it just more planning we need three we're gonna do i think we just weren't meeting the expectations in terms of coordination we are gonna at some point have 100 guests on one podcast episode we just got a lot going on right the way and we in the funny thing was we talked about it beginning of january and we're like all right march 8th like two months like as if that was like a definite all right a hundred on episode 100 we're gonna drink a hundred diet cokes oh until our heads hurt and a hundred jelly beans

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I was at Davey Wayne's two weekends ago. And I went to the bar. What?

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See that corner with like the wood plank? Yeah. I was just standing there perfectly still in the pitch black and then she turned on the lights and I didn't go like, wow, I just stayed standing like that. And then she turned and like shit her pants and punched me.

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Did you like bleed? No, she's a girl. It felt like someone hit me with a pillow. Oh. Oh. It felt like she was giving me a hug. Come on. Come on, women. Because I'm so soft. I love how women punch me. What were we talking about? You ever gotten kicked in your bean bag? Yeah. Did you throw up? No. You know, when I was a kid, I... Was that field day? Did you guys have field day?

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Loved field day. In like elementary school. And this girl, I actually believe I scored the winning goal as it happened of soccer. And then I fell and as this girl was trying to like kick out and stop me and she kicked me in the face and I got, I think I mentioned my massive black eye.

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I had a thought where I was like, like I never wear my seatbelt in Ubers. Yes. Cause it's like, wait, wait, I don't know why I said yes. Because Ubers can't, in my head, I always just kind of, without really thinking about it, like, Ubers can't crash. In the same way, like, Ubers can't pull over. You should probably wear your seatbelt in Ubers.

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yeah didn't i ever show that picture of me in front of the white house yeah i've always i've never known what that was i never knew what that was from it was a girl kicked me in the head and i took a lot of flack from that you know at school it was like oh you got kicked by a girl and uh that doesn't that doesn't really like mean you're unmanly yeah girl kicks me in the face like a black guy yeah if anything that's i mean granted there's a lot more manly than not getting kicked in the face by a girl

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True. What is this noise? Do you hear this? It's the candles you lit. Why do they make that noise?

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That's like a brand? No, it's like when you light the wood wick ones. It's like a perk. Some people like it.

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Popping perks.

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yes the thing we do yes i was thinking i love you guys i love you guys if i was ever like crazy famous okay first of all we are i think yeah i think i would have a i think i would have a hard yeah hard time not getting on the prescription pills it just it just seems like a thing it seems like a rite of passage dude have you seen what justin bieber has been posting on instagram bieber justin beamster founder of the cheese

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Dude, his Instagram. I feel like these things have looked kind of normal. And people are like, I think he's on meth. I mean, dude, I've been following that brother for a while.

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I mean, it's not worth going through. But basically, it's just him. He's just documenting everything and then posting him freestyling. And it's like him. He's on something for sure. I thought he found God. I thought he was religious now. He's been religious for a while. I feel like he's just a weird guy.

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No, I'm just kidding. I just feel like celebrities who like... I don't know. All jokes aside, I actually think if I got super famous, you'd have to... I'd hire a guy to keep me away from the pills.

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it just sounds that's his only job yeah like who's that guy no who's that guy around him he's like he just makes sure i don't do pills like do you have a problem no not yet but like there's there's a reason they all get into them right uh i mean they have so much money and yeah i think it's like an access they've got to be awesome every type of person gets addicted to drugs

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Every income level and fame level gets addicted to drugs. But I would say a higher percentage of super famous people. I think a higher percentage of super poor people get addicted to drugs than super famous people. Okay, then let me add this. If this all goes to shit, I also need someone to keep me away from the pills. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

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Trust me, when I was, I thought about putting it on with Hrant yesterday, but it was like, if I put it on now, that suggests I don't have faith in him because I haven't had it on for the first 20 minutes. But, like, he died because he didn't want to piss off Hrant. But it occurred to me, like, we could crash. Yeah.

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They're just harder to get, so you end up doing shittier drugs if you don't have the money. Yeah. Well, that's a lot of people... Like pills specifically, it's more rich people. You're right. Because it's like them, right? Yeah, exactly. Well, like big pharma got everyone addicted to like OxyContin. Yes. It's just an opiate. So when you can't get it anymore, you have to start doing heroin.

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I've never taken any sort of...

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opiate it's awesome i don't even know what it feels like i've only good thing i guess i've never done it when i'm not like in pain yeah i bet it's awesome i think that's what they is that what they give you when you get your wisdom teeth out yeah my mom you can get that shit out you can get oxygen you can get vikes parking lot vicodins awesome i remember watching dexter i watched i got my wisdom teeth out and i watched all of dexter couldn't tell you what happened i remember it being awesome though

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My buddies came up, Phil and Brendan came over to visit me during, we had like a school-wide free period called advisory. They came over to visit me and they said I didn't notice they were in the room for the first 45 seconds. Yeah, my mom was like tweaking about it. She threw them out.

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oh it's the the that that's like how kids get addicted yeah oh yeah i mean i guess i don't blame her i went live on instagram when i left my wisdom teeth like when i was still high from like this shit and uh my dad was like all right i'm gonna go to the store and get you like a smoothie or whatever i was like allowed to have yeah i was like all right cool when he comes back and i'm live on instagram and he was like whoa hey come on you should not be on there

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I always got worried that... Because maybe it was the same for you guys. I feel like a lot of times for surgeries that you go to a family friend or something. I went to a doctor. A family friend that is a doctor. I don't know. Or a lot of... Sure, I didn't, but I know what you mean. I just go to my neighbor. No, no, I meant like...

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Like when I got my wisdom teeth out, it was like a family friend that did that for a living. And then like when kids like blew their ACL, I feel like.

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Or like got like heart surgery from like our good friend. You know what I mean? Like it's just like you trust those people more. But I was thinking like when you come up from a surgery and you're like loopy. Yeah. Like I'm always worried. Like what if you said something like whack and now like you're. Probably happens all the time. And they're just like numb to it.

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My dad said the only embarrassing thing I did was I told one of the nurses to get me a number nine. Two cheeseburgers. What is that from? McDonald's. Two cheeseburgers. McDonald's! But that's kind of like not cool. Like respecting the doctor and then turning to the nurse and being like No, I think that's funny. Toots, go get me a number nine. I don't think it's a number nine anymore.

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Did you get all yours out? Yeah, man. I got only two out. I still have two in there. I'm worried it's going to happen again. Wait, why would they do two? Not everyone has to get them out, even. I think I just did mine preemptively. Okay, they gave me a scan. They're like, yeah, I think the top ones are pretty bad. The bottom ones are kind of fine.

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I think the top ones are way easier to take out too. The recovery is way worse. So I was like, all right, I'll just do the easier one. I remember these ones, the back, the bottom ones were the only ones that I even like kind of realized were. Yeah. Like I think that's, so I think I got like kind of a dumbed down version, but I might have to go back some day.

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I remember my buddy got them out, and they're like, don't use straws.

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You're not supposed to smoke anything. Immediately ate a straw. Anything suction-wise. And so I remember hanging out, and he ripped his bong through his nose. And we were like, it's not because it's going through your mouth. It's like a suction thing. Yeah, I don't think that works. Yeah. All right, definitely something I deal with waking up in the mornings, I'm a slow starter. Agreed.

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When I was a freshman in college. An Uber crash? I called an Uber crash. It comes like tumbling down the street. It lands into my apartment. Fuck. The guy's like upside down. He's like, crash for will. I was like, so much cheaper. What is that? I thought there's no way it means that. What is this? Who could this possibly be for? Guy's like bleeding out of his forehead. Oh, for real.

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Teach me something.

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It's very divisive, but I think we got to bring them back.

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Yeah. Yeah. yeah yeah then we yeah then we're gonna do this guy rocks this guy rocks this guy rocks today hey and then will and i are gonna tell you what your dreams mean tell you what your dreams mean and we are gonna do sayings that don't exist baseball edition mlb opening day edition all right lauren hit us with some pitches brother

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That was the fastest you've ever done that.

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i want to say something i like didn't realize that that was a thing that i was doing until like the fifth time i did it yeah and now and i didn't think it was really something people would notice it's in the comments people people notice it every time you do it intentionally for this guy rocks you go lauren pauses immediately and i mean immediately oh i think i thought you were doing it intentionally

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I am now, but I wasn't at first. And then I saw the comments and I go, that's awesome. And I go, that's awesome. And you go, let's fucking rock or something, right? Yes, dude. Come on.

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You have to do stand-up.

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What the fuck? I liked this guy until now.

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All right, go. I'm not a dog. I only had cranberries in me once. I'm not a birch.

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Oh, other people get to sing too? I know. I think we've made that joke before.

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But that is the worst part. There are a couple of bad things, but waiting your turn, like people not... Really buying into your... Like Will will go... Like the guy before you ruling. Yeah. Getting something stuck in your teeth. The last two times I've gone with Will, he has burnt the house down right before it's my turn. And then everyone's like lost all their steam.

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And then the time in Nashville, the entire bar sang Pink Pony Club right before I got up. And so everyone was like exhausted. Didn't care. It is kind of... You got to like...

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Is that like a play on donkey?

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I just, one of my favorite, there are a lot of things. Life is beautiful. There are a lot of funny things in life. One of the funniest things that will never not be funny to me is how confused Lauren gets about things. And like that one was warranted, but you do it so often that I was like, come on, man. Everyone knows what that was. And then I realized like, I have no idea what that is.

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The guy's just going like ass over tea kettle down the street. You're like, how's it... How's it still going? It gets you to your destination, but it crashes the whole way there. The whole way. Yeah, it's fine, though. When I was a freshman, we went to... I feel like, maybe I've told the story, but it was like a year ago, so I think the Statues of Limitations has expired. I don't know.

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I'm sure he'll explain it. That's kind of what I'm trying to get at. Surely it will be explained if we just fight through it. Yeah, you're right. I got a little caught up on that one too. I'll end up...

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Probably ball pit. Probably ball pit.

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All right, here's a fun pirate story. Let's address the pitch first. I think that's actually genuinely... You were like, all I needed to hear. Thank you. I like that a lot. It would make karaoke a little more high stakes and it would weed out, like not everyone and their mother would sign up. Right, but I think... It can't be water. No, no, no. It'd be ball pit.

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It has to be like maybe a little bit stinky ball pit. So it's like a little bit. Yeah. Wait. Oh, my God. Why isn't it just like a little bit stinky ball pit?

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No, I was agreeing with you. Oh, okay. I was like, if you try to take a little bit of stinky ball pit, we're going to have a problem.

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Lauren's going deeper into the other end. Sour cream. Ricotta. It can't be any liquid.

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It's a ball pit. I like it.

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The last time I went to karaoke, we were there at the end of the night, and there wasn't enough time to get my name on, so I just lied and I said I was a guy who wasn't there. How did you know he wasn't there? I just waited until he didn't answer, so I did payphone by Maroon 5. Can't hit the high notes at all. It was kind of a nightmare. I'm at a pit. Yeah. Anyway.

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But at the end of the night, the last song of the night, it was the funniest thing ever. The song came on that none of us knew the lyrics to. It was really kind of an emotional song. And it was like the Avengers assembled. It was like the guy hosting karaoke, the bartender, this one other random guy. And there were all these old guys. And they're like, come on, get up.

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They're like, we got everyone. Everyone was like, we don't know who any of these guys are. And they all sang this really emotional song. What bar was this? At Gaslight. And it was just the fun. We were all rocking back and forth because we could read the lyrics. We're like, what is going on? Who are these guys? The bar has turned into mayhem because all the bartenders are gone. Yeah, literally.

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Here's my thing with bartenders. Ooh, get them. Sick them. This is where it gets good. Hit them. Come on. This hasn't happened to me. There was only one bar where I can think of this. If you're a bartender, Your job is to be making drinks. I'm giving you money to make a drink. When they act like you're like, they're like doing you a favor by doing that. That makes me mad.

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Like when you order like a complicated drink, you mean? No, no, no. I mean like I'm sitting there waiting for a beer and they just ignore you for forever. Then they come over and they're like, all right, what's up? Where was the bar that you were at? Fiddler's Green. See, that's where I was about to empathize as a guy who bartended at a college bar.

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It's like, at some point, you got, like, kids are such... Like, I'm sure you were nice, but, like, kids are such fucking assholes at these college bars sometimes and drunk idiots that... Yeah. It is... I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, but I empathize with... It's easy to get to a point where you're like, fuck these people. Yeah. Yeah, that's true.

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I guess also, given the context of the school, it would be easy to assume kids are richer assholes than you would think. You know what I mean? There were a lot of kids there that were super...

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wealthy whatever same as bc agreed like any school but like you can't be like no i'm one of i'm one of you like i'm chill we're on the same we're on the same page here yeah um yeah it was yeah some guys wait back to back to dunky oaky i have a i have a pitch for i keep thinking don quixote what was his name what is that the la mancha the donkey what is the guy's name lauren clay

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Clay, I have a pitch for you to add on to Dunk Yoki. It's like a hamster tube that goes around the bar, and when you dunk it, they have to crawl around like an elaborate thing through the bar, and everyone gets to be like, ah, on the glass, and then they get out on the other end. I like that. Yes. Yeah, wow, grape. Okay. Oh, wait, I got one last thing. You fell on mustard.

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I guess you had bars that you could just go to underage the whole time you were in college. You still had to like...

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Polynesian. Oh, what's that? The thing of all the little balls that you can pull apart and like smush together. Mochi? No. Boba? No, it's not edible. Why are you guys going to food? How often are you playing with your ball-shaped food? I don't get boba.

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Wait, what did I just have? Oh, that thing in Japan had bobas in it. China. You're right. Oh, when Will and I were in Japan, we were waiting in line.

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It's just funny the way... Oh, yeah, dude, Scott... People not knowing that you're talking about Epcot. Scott was on a ski trip last weekend with our friends Diego and Sophia, and apparently he texted me, Sophia just asked me when you get back from Europe. I was like, what?

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present a convincing case they weren't letting yeah I saw many kids get denied in Boston it was like one weekend it would be like this is the bar and then the cops would come and then it would be the next weekend a different bar so we like were the one weekend it was this random ass bar I forget where it was but I went as a freshman I got way too drunk and then we were yeah it was sick

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Will and I are waiting in line in the Japan section of Epcot, and there's a woman coming out who has, like, a very purple drink, and she's, like, you know, our mom's age, and I was like... Hey, is that good? Is that any good? Like, we're trying to figure out what to get. She goes, I don't know. Try it. It's for my daughter. You gave him a sip? Gave me a sip out of her daughter's drink.

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And then we saw them later. And she was like, oh, it's the daughter. And the daughter didn't know that we had had this interaction. She was just like, what is it? It was her 21st that she was drinking around the world with her mom. Kind of fun.

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And our cycles were synced, so we were seeing her at every country.

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Especially a guy who looks like this. I wouldn't give it to myself. Not even out of a straw, except from the cup. Yeah. And didn't you backwash a little? Mm-hmm. I knew a girl that tried to drink around the world with her friends and her mom on her 21st birthday, and they didn't... She had a valid ID, but it was vertical. And they don't let you unless it's a horizontal ID.

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Drinking around the world was... Did we talk about this already?

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It's the greatest time ever. It's a lot of fun. But by the end of it, it's always like... Why did I let you get this drunk at Disney World? You know what I mean? Like you're walking out around all these families. I was trying to explain it to Dylan Walker yesterday because he was like, what is Epcot? And I was like, dude, it is truly... It's heaven on earth.

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It's heaven on earth, but it's also one of the most bizarre things you can be doing. Where you're like halfway through... you do have a realization of, like, what are we doing right now? It's about 85%, 90% families going on rides and experiencing culture and 10% people getting insanely drunk. And that is just hysterical, like... Two things to exist side by side.

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It's a ring around a lake. It's a ring around a lake and you walk through each country. And each country has a ride, a restaurant, a bar. I didn't see any rides. Did you guys do any rides? Remember the Frozen one in Norway? It had a crazy line. After nine drinks? Yeah, that was like our tenth. I'm sorry, I don't remember. We skipped. I forgot to put Norway in the video. Yeah, what happened?

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The audio was like crazy. I had like my finger on it or something. No, it was just like... Was it more fun this time than the first time you guys went? Yeah, it's like you can't capture lightning in a bottle. It was a flash in the pan. You can't capture lightning in a bottle twice? I think I... I think that's two different lightning sayings combined.

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It sounds extremely dangerous, Lauren. Please. All right.

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What did I do?

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The barking spiders are back. God forbid he cuts the freaking cheese once or twice. Oh, my God. That smells so bad. All right.

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Me and my roommates were Ubering back, and the guy got in a fucking car accident. And I got out of the car and, like, was throwing up on the sidewalk. And the cops came and stuff. And the Uber driver, I think, was worried that, like, he was going to get. You hit your head. Yes. And so he was going to get in big trouble because I had, like, sustained an injury. Right.

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Boom, clap the sound of my heart. The beat goes on and on and on and on. I had an Uber driver named Hrant yesterday. Prant? No, Hrant, I think is how you... That's fun. It's like pants for your hands. If you think that is fun, you are going to get a kick out of what he did. Yeah, Hrant, H-R-A-N-T, Hrant. And he was...

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That's a very Playdate pitch. Playdate.

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You hit the nail on the head with that one. I... What would we use him for, guys? You know, when we were at the... Remember when we were at the Bacardi party? Yeah. The... We were at the... There I go bragging. And we were at the Bacardi party.

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uh was it like it was fun but it's like a lot of like i never got to do proper spring break yes like i never went to one of those we just went uh and did like relaxing stuff surprisingly um it was like another world that i've never seen we missed bonnie blue by like a day which she was there she was at the she was at rock bar the day after we were there damn thank the lord

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who is that what she's the girl who is she's sleeping a thousand guys a thousand guys in one day wait why were you pissed that we didn't see her that would have been like our chance to finally i i willy he's spoken for wait all my chance to finally get with all jokes all jokes aside infidelity aside if you offered me a million dollars

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I would think about it for about a week and then I think I would say no.

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That is insane. For a million dollars? That would be the quickest million dollars I've ever heard. Dude, I literally, her existence, more power to her, her existence for me personally makes me the saddest I've ever been. You wouldn't take a million dollars? I would maybe take a million dollars. I mean, that's insane. But like $100,000, I don't think I would do it. I would definitely do it.

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Of course I would. That's a good question. She would probably want to film it. Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't want a sex tape out there, but you didn't say that. I said that she, her being her, her, she makes me the saddest anyone's ever made me in my life. So I'm saying I sleep with almost anyone for a hundred thousand dollars. Like pretty much anyone. If it's off camera.

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And so he was shielding me from the cops. But I also was scared because I, you know, like when you're drunk as a minor, you think you can like get arrested for, I guess you could, but like the cops aren't going to arrest me just for being drunk. I thought it was like, I thought it was like months in the clink. Yeah, exactly. Like, if I did something, maybe.

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That's trueclassic.com slash playdate. Shop now and elevate your wardrobe today. Ooga booga. What is the worst part about an Uber driver who wants to chat the whole time? That he wants to chat the whole time. You have to, like, put your phone down and, like... Oh, yeah, take your headphones out? Yeah, and be like, are we doing this? Yeah. Introducing the cha-hat-y cafe.

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It's a hat that, when it detects noise from the front seat, it responds with, like, damn, that's crazy. Or, like... Yeah, I feel that. You're like, whoa, really? So you can just kind of be down here. I like that a lot. And it blocks your mouth, so it looks like you're responding, but you can just... It has a mouth? You can just keep doing whatever you're doing. I would like that.

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I was on the airplane on Sunday, and the gentleman next to me was weird. He was actually really nice. I didn't mind talking to him, but I had my AirPods in, so I kept not... When I pop it out like this, this is like, this better be a five second thing and then it's going back in. I ended up putting him in the case because we, but it was a nice conversation.

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I bet they could, like, kick you out of school. Yeah.

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That being said, he said at some point that he used to represent Chipper Jones. We were like talking baseball. Yeah. And I was like, oh, wow, that's huge. And I looked at, I looked him up after and he was Chipper Jones's divorce lawyer. Yeah. He was his agent. Yeah, we did one deal. He lost $500 million. Was that after the Braves? I thought that was kind of funny. But yeah, I like your hat.

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So I'm scared that the cops are going to see me. This guy's trying to hide me from the cops. So we're, like, working together. Right. So I was like, all right, you're my bodyguard. This random. And it worked. The cops didn't see me. Why wasn't he just, like, bounce? Why didn't both of you? We were on, like, the side of the road. Like, there was nowhere to go.

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What is it? Chahati? Chahati. Chahati. Chahati. I like that. Okay. What is the worst part about a house with multiple stories? Okay. Gotta climb the stairs. Regular houses don't have elevators. Let's say you're in your room and you want to go get something out of the fridge. It's like you might as well be climbing Machu Picchu twice. This is the four-story fridge.

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It can be adjusted to fit the stories of your house. But it's one fridge that goes up all the floors of your house. Oh, that's fucking awesome. And it's got, like, a rotating thing. So, like, if you're on the top floor and you want to get something, you can go in. You just, like, go... And it goes, like... Until you get to the thing you want. And then you grab it. You just, like, close it.

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Yogurt, yogurt, yogurt, yogurt. Yeah, you just go yogurt, yogurt, yogurt, yogurt, yogurt. And you can get cottage cheese. You can get eggs. You can get milk. You can get eggs. Salami. For when you need cottage cheese in bed. Yeah, exactly.

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You're going to shit your pants if you keep trying that hard.

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Oh, yeah. Wait, stitch those together. We're me farting and Lauren going, I love that. Oh, my God. Jackson.

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Alright, should we do the permitting division of the building department?

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Look up Steph Curry.

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Yeah. Really? She's getting Wendell'd. No, look up Steph Curry. It is a real guy. Look at his name. Wardell. Oh, it's Wardell. Fuck. I thought it was Wendell. I knew a guy. Oh, my God. My friend. I had a friend when I lived in D.C. that he her like fiance was this guy that worked for a company called like Wendell. It was called like Jewelry by Wendell or something.

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And I think his name was like Steve or like something normal. But he his like Instagram was called like Jewelry by Wendell or something. So we all called him Wendell behind his back only. Yeah. We're like, oh, God, is Wendell coming? They call off the engagement. I think I can say this. Should we do everyone's favorite segment? Teach me something. Yeah, I would like that.

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Who wants to learn about how the popsicle was invented? Ooh. Guilty. Come on. Guilty, Lauren. Say guilty.

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Guilty. What is that from?

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Oh, yeah. My mom used to think it was really funny when I would do that. I'd shake my tuchus and go guilty when I was a kid. Tuchus. All right. This gentleman named Frank accidentally left a cup of powdered soda mixed with water and a stirring stick outside overnight.

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Oh, you weren't, like, in the city, right? uh kind of but it was like the middle it was like a weird part of boston like it would have been weird anyway so we just had to wait for like uber called this like another uber and then i left my phone in it and uh That was a whole other issue.

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It froze, and in the morning he discovered the first, originally called the Epsicle, I don't know why, and later changed it to Popsicle when he started selling it more widely, especially after his kids began calling it Popsicle.

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that makes sense it was like an icicle pops icicle pops icicle yeah isn't that crazy yeah i like that a lot i never thought about that also my question what was he doing outside with soda mix and water yeah he was hammered yeah why was he doing that i don't know i don't know that's a good fact i like that a lot uh do you know about giraffe i know a little bit about giraffe do you know how long they sleep

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No, they will sleep like 30 minutes a day. Why? I don't know. They just have developed to not need that much sleep, and they sleep in like a few minutes at a time. But total, usually we'll get like 30 minutes a night. Do they lay down? A lot of times they do it standing up, and they just dip their head behind their butt. Sometimes they lay down.

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Yeah. Their head goes back? I think so. Can you put giraffe sleeping standing up? My thing is, like, if I lived in the Sahara or wherever. Oh, yeah, you're kind of right. That's crazy. I guess he's still lying down. Oh, yeah, maybe. If I lived in the Sahara and there were, like, constantly things trying to, like, maul you, I probably wouldn't want to sleep for eight hours a day.

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Yeah, apparently lions, though, I don't have a good date on this. I didn't do my lion research, but I think lions sleep, like, 20 hours a day. Yeah, because it's just like, who's going to fuck with the king of the jungle? Have you ever seen a giraffe get in a fight? They can fuck shit up. Yeah, lions sleep averaging between 16 and 20 hours a day. Maybe. You're awake for three hours?

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We don't want to hear about your juices. Okay.

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i don't know i i feel like my mind well you're actually you're actually right uh the only reason and i'll butcher this a little bit but the general idea was i'm pretty sure the only reason we landed on like that eight hours in one chunk was because of like work schedules now yeah originally it used to be like two separate like four or whatever and they would wake up in the middle like google like did people used to wake up in the middle of the night

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Yeah, Uber was like, oh, sorry, Uber got in a crash. Here's another one. He's way better. Is there a button that's like, we crashed? You hit the three dots and it's like, did you crash? We crashed. One star. I gave him two stars because he shielded me from the cops. I'm not trying to be insensitive, but this went too far. Sometimes you preface these things.

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Yeah, I swear to God, this is, like, a real thing. They would, like, wake up in the middle of the night and, like, fuck around for a couple hours and then go back to bed. Dude, when I was in... When I was in Spain, like, we would get, like, two or three hours off in the middle of the day. We'd go home, eat, take a nap. Yes, historically, many... Okay.

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Well, that's just way too long of a thing.

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Yes, historically, many societies practice what is called biphasic or segmented sleep, where people would wake up in the middle of the night for an hour or so before returning to sleep. This was common pre-industrial... Yeah, so like the Industrial Revolution... Had to like standardize. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, it's the reason we have like...

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I'm sure she has a better idea of when it is than we do. Yeah, I just thought it was June.

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Alright, I have a This Guy Rocks that is going to put you guys on your fucking keister.

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This guy rocks. This guy rocks today.

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When you open it, pause it immediately. And I mean immediately. Quick, quick, quick, quick, quick. All right. So you guys may know who this is. This is Grant Cardone. He is the founder of the 10X Method. A lot of people think he's a scam artist. Personally, I think he's a visionary. I think he's a hero. I think he's a hero.

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You know, his house was the only one on the Malibu beach that didn't burn down. They hired private fire trucks. There you go. But, wait, oh, Lauren, I said pause it immediately, and I mean immediately. What did you not understand? He meant immediately. All right, so this is Grant talking about what would happen if Jesus was alive today. Let's give it a shot, Loren.

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Okay, pause this for a second. This is known, known scam artist Grant Cardone, who is... There's a couple things to unpack here. Let's start with the fact that Jesus, if he was alive today, in Grant's eyes, would have... Not one, but a fleet of Gulf Streams with satellite distribution. He needs one for each disciple. That's true. Gotta hook your homies up. Gotta hook the homies up.

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How insane do you have to be to think that Jesus Christ... who famously said to sell all of your possessions. Yeah. Would have a fleet of G650s or whatever. I believe the quote was, it's easier for a poor man, rich man. It is harder for, it's easier for a rich man to get. No, I think it was that exactly. It was something about like an eye of a needle than a camel to go. Oh, no.

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It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter into heaven. Yeah, I mean... It's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. Isn't that crazy when you think about, like, that's, like, in the Bible that, like... megachurch pastors are reading. Well, they skip that part.

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No, this one is like, it's not going to offend anyone because I think this has happened to everyone once. I understand there are extenuating, is that the word, circumstances where, like, sometimes... Just say it. I'm scared. Stuff is out of your control. I got an Uber the other day. Yeah. And it was, like, you know those, like, Chevy Volts or, like, the ones that are, like, almost smart car sized?

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The thing with these new wave Christians, and I guess old Catholicism and different sexes, we get to pick and choose. Yeah, well, that is a big part of it. That being said, what if it was like in Jesus' time, camels used to walk through eyes of needles all the time? It's going to be a breeze. I thought that was so funny, though.

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yeah if jesus was alive today he would have a fleet of golf street he'd probably be doing a stream today yeah i mean he'd probably be on twitch doing like a week off stream till he shoots 18 under like you have to be either that's like rage bait and he like wants people to be upset about that or you have to be like can you google if grant cardone's a scientologist i think he's like delusional because he's been doing this for too long is grant cardone a scientologist

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Oh, I slacked. I think I slacked. Did I slack? No. Yeah, Grant Carter. Okay, never mind. He's a Scientologist. Okay. All right, so there's a lot of factors going on here. A lot of play. But then he immediately goes, Martin Luther King had to leave his house. We go, okay, that's true. Everyone has to leave their house. You have to leave the house to get out there.

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Mark Zuckerberg had to leave college. Oh, no, I said it to you and Brian. Sorry. And famously, Mark Zuckerberg and Jesus are on the same plane in terms of good that they've done for the world. Yeah. Wait, before you do this, I saw the funniest quote of all time. Someone was doing an article on Mark Zuckerberg. Yes.

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And they go, Zuckerberg, who famously helped a genocide in Myanmar or something, they fucked something up by not doing something on Facebook, and it kind of aided this genocide, said that one of his biggest regrets was being on the fencing team instead of the wrestling team. That's great. All right, this is Jaden McMillan.

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Jalen McMillan, he's a wide receiver for the Buccaneers, saying what he does for fun.

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Why are they entertaining this?

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wait he paused it kind of weird are they this is it this is his draft interview they're trying to decide whether to draft this guy yeah i think i think you got to take this guy he's clearly like not going to be a problem or or he's like the biggest issue and he's like he's like what a what a normal guy he's a party maniac and he's trying to blend in

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Or he's just, I mean, that's a thing that your highest friend does. Yeah, but okay, but here's the thing. Collecting cereal boxes, I guess would be kind of cool, but only collecting the off-brand ones is the funniest thing I've ever heard. Yeah. That's so, I mean, you can tell, like a hush fell over the room. They were like, I can honestly say I've never heard anyone. Okay, that's new.

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We were looking for maybe like running, training, Fortnite. Catching. So did they draft him? Yeah. He's a stud. I think he had an awesome rookie year. Or was he a rookie? I don't know. He had a great year. I think you're right that after he left that meeting, they're probably like, all right, well, he's not going to be a... Yeah, he's not. We don't have to worry about him. Exactly.

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Also, they asked, you do that by yourself? He's like, yeah, I do it by myself. Cool. Also, I thought that too. Who the fuck make an avocado vanilla chips? Yeah.

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I've never heard of that. He does seem like a sweet soul.

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Why did he keep talking after the cereal example?

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Yeah. Whatever brand. And I have an Uber driver who is...

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Yeah, wait. He dug himself a hole and then he was like, for example, I had. We don't need an example. All right, Willie, do you want to start with what your dreams mean? No, let's do our other one first. Baseball? Yeah, so this is a very exciting one. Baseball, this episode comes out on the 26th, right? Yeah. So baseball's opening day is tomorrow.

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If you're listening to this the day it came out, we are super excited. But my Mets, your Sox, so we have a fun draft. These are sayings that don't exist. MLB opening day edition. No one's ever started the wave on their first try. Don't get discouraged if you don't see results right away. All good things take time. Yep. Love that. You can't swing unless you know who's pitching. All right.

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You got to know exactly what situation you're dealing with before you make a decision that's going to have an impact. Trying to bunt a home run. If you want to see big results, you can't take the easy way out. You got to take, or sorry. You'll never achieve great things if you're not prepared to miss a few times. He gets on base.

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in the i'm not joking in the neighborhood of like 700 pounds and has to like put his seat all the way back so it's touching the backseat and like he you can't see the center console like he's like engulfed it it's crazy which like that i have no problem with that but the smell in this car i don't know if it was i don't know if it was him or like someone threw up five minutes before i got it there

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This is something you would say to describe like a coworker who maybe doesn't blow anyone out of the water, but he is getting things done, you know, meeting expectations, nothing crazy. He gets on base. hitting a home run and stopping at first. You have the potential to be great, but you're limiting yourself because you don't have enough self-confidence. That's a good one. Thank you.

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The dugout is below the field for a reason. Sometimes it's not your time to shine, and you think you want to do it all, and you think you can do it better, but you got to know, wait for your moment, do it then, and when you're in the dugout, stay in the dugout.

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like you have a you and i both have like very clear we have like three or four like formulas yeah yeah like you one of my favorite of wills is like uh blank blank blank blank is blank for a reason yeah um do we've done like 500 i know uh you put me on the kiss cam with my sister You put me in a lose-lose situation where there's no possibility that I come out looking good. Yeah, I like that.

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That's a long out. That's when you were really close to accomplishing something but didn't come together in the end and you're really disappointed. You're like, hey, it's a long out. You know, it happens sometimes. Watching strikes go by. Yep. Someone has a lot of opportunities for success, but they're too scared to take a chance. Love it. That's why they stopped letting pitchers hit, all right?

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Not everyone's cut out for everything, all right? Know your lane, accept your role, and just be good at what you're good at. Swinging before it's left the pitcher's hand. You got to be patient. We're sorry. You can't rush things. If you want to see success, you got to wait. Yep. Love it. All right. Those were our sayings that don't exist. MLB opening day edition.

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I could not be more excited for baseball. I think this is the year the Mets win the World Series. And if they don't, I'm going to have a freakout.

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i think this is the year i watch i haven't consistently watched red sox games since i was a sophomore in high school that's what i'm trying i want to be better it's hard here because the game started like 4 p.m during the week dude when when i was in when i was in school on the east coast yeah they started like i had to like come home from school yep and watch them at like four and now it's like wait what there would be like a 4 p.m oh like on like a wednesday yeah they do like the day games yeah yeah

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All right. These are what your dreams mean. Oh, yes.

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This is what your dreams meant.

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Okay. Oh, if you dream about skeletons, but their bones are soft, your car has been towed. I had one I wanted to... If you dreamed that you summoned a genie, but you can't stop wishing for anything but more trail mix, it means you're unhappy at your current job. Oh, I've always wondered about that.

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Uh, if your dream takes place in any sort of tropical setting, your house has dangerous levels of carbon monoxide. If you find yourself ruling over a kingdom of guys that all look like different versions of Willem Dafoe, it means you're not spending enough time nurturing your relationships. That's good. Uh, If you dream about any kind of animal, you are the mayor.

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I got in and was like, oh, it'd be pretty rude to just get out and call a new one. But, like, thought about it, and then we started going and just hit gridlock traffic. And I was like, so I rolled down the window, and I was like, I can't do this. Yeah, you just rolled down the window, puked a little, and then rolled back up. But, like, it was so bad, I had my water bottle with me.

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If you dream that your girl or boyfriend is drowning you in a pool of your own blood, that doesn't mean anything. You shouldn't look into it. Okay, good. If you dream about one small guy with a big green hat and really long fingernails, you have herpes. I don't make the rules.

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If you dream that you're a truck driver coming home to your wife, but you get stuck in an infinite roundabout, that means you should invest in Bitcoin. That's good. Do you know that if you dream about birds leaving the nest, but they're really sad about it, they don't want to leave the nest, but they have to leave the nest, you don't have any legs.

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if you dream that there is a chest of invaluable jewels but there's a mountain lion sleeping on top of it it means that you miss your high school Spanish teacher if you dream about squirrel you are done done You're done dreaming. If you dream about a squirrel, you're done. If you dream that you're doing open heart surgery on a clone of yourself, it means you drank too much warm milk before bed.

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That's right. I've heard that. If you dream about any sort of living room furniture, you are audited by the IRS. That one's not like it means it. It's just like they will know and then they'll audit you. Yeah, they get notified.

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They did surgery... Lauren! I mean, it's a little bit derivative, but... No. If you dream that you're... If you dream that you're stranded in a cotton candy lighthouse in the middle of a giant storm, it means you're about to see great financial success. If you dream about the news, you're gay. Lauren, do another one.

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This was the first thing that came to mind after I finished the leader of Diet Coke. He called me. He was like, I got it.

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I like that. All right. Whose personality are we stealing this weekend? Willie and I are going to Vegas after this. Next flight out. I think I did my Vegas one for the episode that comes out. We're all fucking turned around.

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Well, apparently I'm going back to Vegas alone on a different trip, and I'm going to steal that kid Mickey Mace's personality because I'm going to win millions of dollars in Baccarat. I think when this comes out, I'll be about to go to Charleston, maybe. Did I tell you my plan for great success in Vegas? I got a new debit card, and I put exactly $100 on it. I like it.

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Because you can't use your Amex at the ATM, so I'm bringing just a debit card. You can use your Amex. Why would you tell me that? Sorry, you can't. Okay, I'm bringing one debit card that has exactly $100 on it. I'm going to take that out. That's all I'm playing with.

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I put my water bottle under my shirt because I was worried about it, like, contaminating my... water it was like it was like truly the worst smell i've ever smelled and i felt bad because i think he like i think if you smell that bad you know you smell that bad and he kept trying to make conversation but it was just like i didn't want to yeah he

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and then we get free play from bed mgm i'm gonna put it all i'm putting it all on um every underdog in march madness because gavin did that last year and made like thousands of dollars that's awesome i'm gonna um wait do i have to make my oh my god bracket dude yeah you have today's the last day the uh dude the grateful dead is playing tomorrow night at the sphere we can't go i don't think why not don't we have to be at the book

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not at night oh yeah i'd love to go do you want to go i yeah i don't know if i do actually i'm thinking about it hey man this super awesome thing is happening no i know do you want to go exhausted like i don't really know if i want to go to a show tomorrow night kind of and we have an 8 a.m call time the one time so you go to a concert in every city and it's always bands i've never heard of and then now there's one that's like would be an awesome experience and this is the one time you don't want to look so dope

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yeah i've been in sphere a few times i guess is it scary no it's not scary i you know what you're right that it is a little out of character maybe but like i don't know i don't i've never really been into the grateful dead and like i think i've accepted maybe that i don't know it is funny that you brought it up this fear i just saw i mean i'm thinking about it i just i i was texting strider about it last night we were saying let's play it by ear but there's also like how much your tickets 150 bucks

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Oh, that's not bad. No, it's pretty good. I mean, I could win $50 on Baccarat. True. Buy a ticket. The sphere looks like I would not want to be, I would want to be like sober there. It doesn't seem like. Yeah, I don't know. Like the visuals that go up, I would be scared. No, it's, well, I don't know.

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The Grateful Dead one does one where it looks, at least in the TikTok I saw, it looks like you're in the sky looking down at the city. Yeah. And I think that would freak me the fuck out.

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I don't know. I think, yeah. Maybe a couple of beers. I just don't know if I'd want to be high there. Yeah, I mean, we have an 8 a.m. call time the next day, so it's going to be like a wild night anyway.

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Also, part of it is the Severance finale comes out at 9 on Thursday, and I really want to watch that. That's a good point. All right. We love you guys. Have a great rest of your... Oh, sorry, Lauren. Whose personality are you going to steal? Oh, they hate me. Quarantine?

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I tried to peel her face mask off, but it was really on there. All right. I got to go pee. Love you guys. We'll see you for 92. See you for 92. Have a great rest of your Wednesday and a great rest of your week and weekend. And we will see you guys bright and early on Monday. We love you so much. Lauren, play that theme music player.

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And he kept apologizing for the traffic, but it was also kind of apologizing, you could tell, for the smell. I'm just saying, from his perspective, what do you do as an Uber driver if you shit your pants right before your guy gets in? Traffic is tough, huh? Dude, traffic is the worst thing about this, huh? It smelled like he threw up in the center console right before I got it.

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You gotta go window. No, so I rolled the window down and was trying to make it look like I was just looking out the window far. Yeah. So, like, my head was up in the window. But, like, I'm a grown man. Like, no one's buying me. Like a puppy. And I felt awful because it was just, like, his life's got to stink. No pun intended.

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But like, and then it asked me to rate the Uber and I was like, well, he was a great guy, but I don't want anyone else to go through this. So I, I, I didn't rate him.

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I was like, I just want to stay out of this. Yeah. But like, At some point, it's like that... People shouldn't have to be subjected to that, right? Yeah, I mean, I think that, yeah. I think they like... Do they even like check cars? I feel like they do. I believe you have to go through one. But it's like... Like when you start.

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You know, like, the bad guys that, like, James Bond has to get to, to, like, get to, like, the vault or whatever he's... I haven't seen anything James Bond. Just picture it. Okay. Or, like, Mission Impossible we're doing. Or, like, the henchmen in Fortnite.

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Yeah, what if he's been doing Uber for eight years and he didn't stink eight years ago? It's gonna be good, but it's gonna be stinky. That's like a thing we say. It's a thing Lucas used to say. Well, now we say it because he doesn't have a podcast, so we can take it. That's the best thing about having a podcast.

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Our friends that don't have podcasts, we can just take all their jokes and make them ours. Did I tell you how much Diet Coke I drank yesterday? You said a liter. That's a big... How many? Was it in cans? No, it was one...

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thing that was the problem i thought i grabbed a normal 16 ounce it was like the step above that but not the one that you get from like dominoes yeah it's a one liter yeah one liter and like in the same way this isn't a liter i don't know a lot that's 12 ounces yeah i bet keep how many ounces in a liter how many dot com how many ounces in a liter dot com how many ounces a pound 33

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Okay, that's like three Diet Cokes. That's not as many as I thought. I'm sorry. I was ready to be blown away. I will say I drank it in the same amount of time that I would drink a normal Coke. And I came... I'm excited for you to go look at... You came? Yeah. I came up with so many new ideas. I'm very excited for you to look at the whiteboard. Oh, yeah. Whiteboard of the year.

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Our green marker ran out, so you can tell which ones are the new ideas because they're in blue. Maybe we should do that on purpose. We should rotate. Anytime you got, like, a new batch, you get a new marker so people know. Yeah.

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Oh, yeah. I forgot all my lines and Angus hit me. Did you actually forget any lines? No. No, it went great. It was fun.

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That is okay. Wait, what happened?

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I texted him, though. Did you text him? Yeah, he said break a leg and that he loves me, I think. I didn't say that. I said, good luck tonight. I'm sorry. I can't make it break a leg, as they say. It was good. It was packed. And we keep announcing these shows a day before the ones in L.A., Yeah, you guys all posted at 4 p.m. on your story. Like, that doesn't seem like enough time to.

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Literally, like, they, like... Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! I get in. That's rant. And he's just like the biggest dude I've ever seen. Bald head, black suit and was like, I was like, hey, thanks for waiting. He was just like, no problem. And then the second I closed the door, took off because we're going in. We're in like rush hour traffic. Yeah.

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So we, yeah, and we're like, oh, God, like, we're not going to sell any ticket. Every time we're like, no one's going to show up, like, it'll be bad. And then, like, this was, like, the most sold L.A. one we've had yet. How many people is it? It's a small theater. No, I'm saying, like, how many people are in this theater? Yeah, it's like, I don't know, maybe 150.

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But 150 people in, like, a small theater. Yes. Feels bigger than, like, a 500-person theater that.

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agreed like they're they had people sitting crisscross applesauce on the stage oh that's crazy like it's like uh it's like they're like right in there and i have this one sketch where i have billy up on my shoulders and i'm blindfolded and i have to walk up onto the stage it's like a thin blindfold so i can see through it yeah but i couldn't they put people on the where the stairs are so i had to go and step up like two like a foot and a half and i almost dropped billy but it was fine

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It was great. It's so intimate that it's awesome. Scott came and my buddy Diego came. It was a home game. Scott went with Lucas, right? They were saying that our manager came backstage and was like, yeah, it's actually funny. We were going to be like, why do you guys keep promoting these so late?

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But we think you've inadvertently created this sort of pop-up effect where people think that's just how our shows are. You've got to be... tapped in tapped in to see when they announce them and they that's funny so yeah so it was great uh it was super fun rick mater who you know rick mater that dude he has the built-in producer tag oh you you know rick mater i'm so far out of sight that noise

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wow uh he came up to me he was like hey man are you going to the show and i was like oh no i didn't i didn't know about it until i already had plans i'm sorry and he was like oh it's cool um do you know anyone that's going i'm worried i'm not gonna have any buddies there i was like oh yeah like lucas and scott are going russell's like

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Like, it was the first time I'd ever seen Rick not, like, super confident.

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I was like, oh, man, he has, like... Other people have feelings, too. Insecurities.

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Oh, my God. We're on five now. Ultimate, ultimate. We won the championship and now we're on five.

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It makes no sense. Well, I mean, here's what I've heard from inside sources. Oh, great. You just don't have... You don't have gab... No, but he wasn't on our team all regular season last year.

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He only played the last two or three games. Is he telling you that? No, no, no, no. He hasn't said one thing. Lucas told me that Gavin was your guys' best player, and now he doesn't play. No. He was the best player maybe the last game or two.

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I mean, yeah, you need Joe Palm. But he's played half of them this season, and we're still losing. Joe Palm? Yeah.

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Yeah, he was there last week, not this week. So what's different? I don't.

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I guess. Yeah, it does feel like the teams we're playing are definitely better. But I don't know.

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Yeah, it was like Lauren was blacked out. Isn't it on Mondays?

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I got tipsy at dinner last night. Really? Dude, every time because they, we go to this. I feel like you'd be going to dinners a lot.

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Are you spending like your life savings on eating out? I haven't told you this. No. My life has turned into a nightmare. I have a minimum, minimum one dinner, like minimum one dinner. Is it because your mom? My dad was in town. My mom lives here now. My girlfriend lives here. My sister lives here. My other sister from New York is visiting.

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And he is utilizing, you know, I was like, if you're a biker, stay in the bike lane. You can do whatever you want now because Frantz and I were using the bike lane like it was the 405. It was terrifying. At one point, a cop was going somewhere fast and Frantz got behind him and like used it, which is super illegal. You can't like follow an emergency thing. We shaved like 30 minutes off our time.

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They all don't realize that maybe he's gone to dinner already this week. Do you remember that stretch last week where it was five Days in a row, it was like, I just have a dinner. It was like Thursday to Tuesday. I had a dinner every single night in the farthest corners of Southern California. At least you're not paying for it.

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I guess problems could be worse, but that does kind of sound like it sucks. It's awful, and it's impossible to eat healthy. Yeah. You tell them to stop playing basketball. Yeah. Yeah. Also, I will say Rick met up with us beforehand. Oh, lovely. So he was fine. God damn it. I hate that we have a fucking basketball hoop attached to our podcast studio.

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The griddles are fucking... I have it right now. I was thinking of a McMuffin.

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Yeah. They get most of the brand deals in exchange for us having like health insurance and a stable income.

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yeah yeah you're right there was like one AOC married she's engaged that is not what I would have expected him to look like at all what did you think he was going to be like not white and ginger I didn't tell you that in 611 He looks like a really solid role player on the Milwaukee Bucks. Apparently, he's really nice. How do you know that? I'm just kidding.

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Lauren, look up if there's ever been a president that hasn't had a wife.

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I'm calling my shot right now. James Buchanan. Okay. My guess is Andrew Jackson.

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No, just look up president without a wife. I believe Andrew Jackson was a bachelor at one point. Well done. Come on. Oh, it's only Buchanan? Pull up a picture of James Buchanan.

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Oh, he was a hunk. He was from Lancaster, Pennsylvania.

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They give you health insurance.

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Do you think he was? Oh, yeah, you can't put that dog in a cage. Oh, come on. Yeah, come on, man. You can't put a leash on that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now, you know, his ass could not be locked down.

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Pretty sick, right?

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Oh, you know what I was thinking of is Andrew Jackson killed the guy. Same. Same.

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Same thing. Same idea. I think they're both. I think a lot of speculation was that he's gay.

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Oh, yeah. That's very nice. When was the last time you guys went to the dentist? I just learned that. Never? Not since I wasn't a kid. That's what I said. I said, since I've become an adult, I haven't gone in. I got reamed out. How do you even set it up? I was on, like, SAG. I'm on SAG health insurance right now. Got it. Okay. Which is, like... Is it good? Really good. It's really good. Yeah.

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Also, apparently Abraham Lincoln is probably gay. I, that's why, yeah, the log cabin Republican, but this is what I, I hate this. I hate this shit because here's, here's my thing. If they didn't do anything, if they didn't do anything gay, he was apparently doing. No, I know, but I'm saying now everyone, everyone, everyone wants all of our, all of our heroes can't be gay.

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We got to just keep, you can't just make someone gay 200 years later. Yeah.

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they're we're not making we're not retconning your your um lore all i'm saying this is not canon all it's not canon that abraham lincoln all i'm saying is like i don't want to die in 200 years and have my like great great great grandchildren be like you know he was probably gay he did a podcast with another man every twice a week it's like Have you seen JFK's buddy Lem Billings?

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Do you know Lem Billings? Pull up Lem Billings. Lem. JFK, it was like his best friend in the world, and they were so clearly hooking up. Oh, wow. Oh, yeah. Wait, is that? They're in love. JFK, I'm down to be like JFK was probably bi, but keep Lincoln's name out of it.

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No, he had like a guy that was like his gay lover that he was with all the time. That photo is crazy. There's one of JFK looking. Yeah, go down there, Lauren. He's looking through his butt.

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He's looking through his mouth.

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Those were really cute. If we're just talking about photography, it's like, yeah, you could probably find some... Well, you could Photoshop anything. That's true. I've never looked through your butt, though, is all I'm saying. I, it does bother me that like the, um, that is cute. Gay man.

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Um, it, it does bother me that now with, um, AI and whatnot, that they, there's moments that are real that now people, uh, that like you, like there's the, the, um, that, you know, it's my favorite, the, the, um, gotta have them ribs, you know? Are you familiar? Wait, can we, can you please? Is that an AI dog? No, no, no, wait. Can you search Obama gotta have them ribs real quick, please?

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No, because this is a real clip, right? That literally is the like. Who put that in the butter? Yeah, wait. This is gotta have them ribs. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And pork rind stew.

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Yeah, another guy said. But I tell you what, you won't see me moving to no African jungle anytime soon. Or some goddamn desert somewhere sitting on a carpet with a bunch of Arabs? No, sir. He's reading a book. And you won't see me stop eating no ribs either. Gotta have them ribs. And pussy too. Don't have to talk about no pussy. Now you know that.

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So that clip, that clip, like I've, I usually don't see it with like that much context. It's usually just like, gotta have them ribs and pussy too. Right. And then people like I've, I've showed that to people years ago. Right. And then now if you show it to somebody now, They're like, oh, that's AI. Is that AI? Yeah. We're going to lose some hilarious moments in history.

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Yeah, because I do love that. So you've been showing that video to people for years. Every day at Nonstop. At Nonstop, people that are not...

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don't want my company peep everywhere i go i walk into every businesses and i go hey look at this oh look at it's not ai it's funny i know everyone thinks so this is fun look at this i'm always doing that everywhere i every fucking building i go everywhere everywhere i go i go to i'm always walking into the store and trying to make strangers watch um beetlejuice compilations on youtube

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But, like, I'm not going unless someone's... Like, the only reason I went when I was a kid is because someone else, my dad, had, like, made the appointment.

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What book was he reading? I believe it was the autobiography of Malcolm X. And Malcolm X famously said, And that was him on the bus talking to a guy that was explaining why he can't be Muslim. Oh, so the other guy who's quoting another person. By the way, there's no... Look. Did you read it? I know I haven't, no. But I know so much lore about this video.

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Because obviously I'm not going to... If I'm showing it to every person I meet... You're going to get some questions.

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It makes us all a little bit more interesting. Agreed. Y'all, I got to talk about Dollar Shave Club because this is personal for me this week. I shaved my entire chest completely bare. Shaved my armpits. Nothing. Let me see. Wow. It's very, very jarring. And your face. And my face. And my mustache. Everything is gone. I'm hairless.

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And I did it all with that exactly what you're holding right there. that three-in-one trimmer. I took myself to town, and I honestly, it is weird. It feels kind of good. Yeah, that baby smooth feeling. It's like I don't want to get addicted to it. Dude, you're getting in touch with your feminine side. I know. It feels really good.

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And, like, for some reason in my head, it's like... Like, I would always go, like, on winter break when I came home from school. Yeah. And so now that it's spring, in my head, it's like, well, I can't go until next winter.

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Do you know the guy who came up with, is that an AI dog?

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No, I don't know. Who put that in the butter?

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I don't know. You're going to love this guy. Look at this guy. It's my, not the one from today, but above that.

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And they see the videos as we watch them? Yeah, they see the videos, yeah.

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Let's turn on audio and then they're fucked.

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I'm the creator of popular catchphrases such as, Why'd they do that? Who put that in the butter? Is that an AI dog? And my favorite one of all, I'm just a regular guy.

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Oh yeah, please send that to me. That's awesome. Is that an AI dog? Is that an AI dog? That's how I felt. When you were like, oh, we got to make a list of phrases. I was like, I felt like him. I felt like, is that an AI? No. You see, you take out your notes after you just delete. Who put that in the butter? Who put that in the butter is good. I mean, this is... Damn.

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Well, because now it actually... I guess it kind of works. Because now...

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now people are now we are saying this yeah yeah maybe they just don't maybe that's how we should frame our clips it's like so here we're the actually the guys who created and then just say he's mystery human yeah who put that in a button wait yeah he has like way more followers than i yeah but then no but then if you look at the if you hover over the posts let's hover over the posts yeah that's yeah it's grim it's flopping crazy wait let me just

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You can't wait until winter. Yeah.

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Wait, by the way, we haven't, we're just, we're just talking regular, right?

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Brandon just left. No, I just needed to... I just reminded myself to delete something. What happened? Because I just posted a flop as real. And it's like, I just saw that and then I started, I was like, oh shit, I just posted something that, I just posted some dog shit.

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Yes, it's me, the meme guy. The one with all those popular memes that everyone recognizes. Like, you caught me watching anime. And don't make a fuss. Get off the bus. And who put that in the butter? Appreciate that you all like those things. Sometimes you got to play the hits. Sometimes you got to play the hits. I just want to be a Rick LaCroix.

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Or we can do an accent if you want. No. Yeah. Oh, I meant like, this isn't on the podcast.

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Oh, yeah, that's fun. I think that some people...

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should the guys like this should get flagged and put away yeah this is something bad so he it's like a bunch of bots i guess comments no the the followers oh they're all making fun of him no i don't think anyone is on his side no of course of course but i i don't think that like oh you think i think that video is popular yeah like for the wrong reason but that one had 6 000 like everything else like i don't

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I don't think his followers are real.

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All this is, yeah. I mean, there's no, there's absolutely no way. That's, what is this? Where electronic ant ends well. What's this Sonic? Oh, that's like a little cup of pig stuff.

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I don't like him. What's Perry? Can you do that? Yeah, let's see what Perry's up to.

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I think it is if you want. Oh, I don't care. It's fine. Did you say something? I just didn't know if we started. I like the idea that you were like, none of that can be in there. That will take me down. That's fine. It's fine that I said that I went to the dentist last month. But I just didn't know if we started recording the podcast. We did. We're going. We're rolling? Play date. Episode 107.

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It's come to my attention that some of you don't believe that I'm the creator of Phineas and Ferb. Oh. Then I explain this to you. So does that mean... Oh, so then he is like... So he's lying.

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So he didn't even come up with this as an AI at all. No, but he's doing like... I think he's three steps ahead of... He's like being... He's not... Yeah, because this is... Okay, what's the next thing? This is... He's not... Yeah, okay, watch... Click on video games. What's the Peppa Pig thing?

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I'm a creator of Fortnite. I'm going to upload the latest Fortnite skin. What other skin should I put in the game?

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don't worry i'm just a regular guy okay so it's like he's doing i don't know let's just cut this part where we talk about it actually no keep it in obviously look and then play twice but i the more i when i look into more of it right i'm like okay i think he's he's pulling one i don't think he is i think that no this is not does that piss you off No, but I don't think that he is doing something.

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I think it's ironic. I think there are guys that are our dad's age that they were not meant to grow up being able to put their thoughts out to everyone, and then it became available, and now they are able to just put, is that an AI dog? You think he's been sitting on that saying for a long time?

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an ai finally that's got to be a relatively recent but who put that into butter that's probably he's probably had that one popping around since the 80s 90s yeah maybe early 2000s maybe can i hit your vape what's it what is your what kind of what is it blue raz ice blue raz ice i was like that's crazy so i i was at a buddy's wedding and he came up to me and was like uh

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hey someone gave me a vape but i don't i don't want it do you want this and so i took it but we were talking about this yesterday it feels like that feels like old folklore like if you accept a gift if you accept a gift from a groom on his wedding day you're like forever yeah yeah what's this it's on normal mode right now the screen does nothing i think it's just to like watch clips yeah how do i boost mode

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This is, there's subway surfers. Reprogramming it. Subway surfers in Quagmire.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Funniest Quagmire moments. Just like a slideshow of Quagmire. There's like a fire goes off. Yeah, isn't that awesome? That is crazy. It's too much. It's high tech. It's too much tech. You know, Lauren was saying that she loves Bozo dubbed over.

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She was talking about that earlier. It's the best. It's the first thing I ever read from the show. It's one of the only times where I've... Because I auditioned off of that script. Yeah. and then like i got added to like the other one and then like the next season it was just like tim you know threw me a bone yeah um but uh yeah i i like i auditioned and it was uh

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It's, like, the hardest I've laughed.

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Like, reading, like, reading, like, sides.

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Was it, it was all written out, like, the way? Yeah. Oh, fuck, I'm gonna jack off. Yeah.

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Tony Kukoc. You either have to guess a seven-year-old or someone who wore number seven. Oh, guess like a seven-year-old? Or someone who wore... It's easier with the higher numbers. Oh, or a player that wore the... Carmelo Anthony. Yeah. Okay, so I got Tony Kukoc. He's got Carmelo Anthony. Let's see. Um...

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Oh, this guy's gonna, yeah, this, oh, this guy's gonna jack off. Oh, yeah, I hope I don't jack off. I hope I don't jack off. Yeah, all that. I'm not even supposed to be here.

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Are the scripts, like... That's in the script, yeah. Are the scripts, like... Yeah. Because obviously part of it is like the delivery for him is like so unique. And I feel like all the characters like... Do you ever read one of the scripts and they just don't make any sense? Because you're like, I can't see what he's going to do with this. Well, I don't... The dialogue on its own.

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The Ruben Rabasa one. It's like, I can't imagine anybody else doing that. Yeah. And then I can't imagine like that...

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writing that without knowing that he was gonna yeah that it was ruben i just can't imagine because ruben wasn't like a guy before that right yeah he's i i regret not uh meeting him at the i remember when they did the premiere for season one like it was before i watched that sketch yeah

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yeah it like they didn't show that sketch that like it's but he was there he was there and i didn't know who he was and now you know he's i mean yeah he's the man also by the way friendship is so good yeah i watched it um yesterday the trailer looks insane i haven't i haven't checked it out it's really funny

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streaming or is it just don't watch it in a movie theater like watch it in a movie theater like today it's really it's like you should watch it in like a movie theater with a lot of people and the guy who wrote and directed it Andrew DeYoung he's really he's awesome I really like that guy It's like an artfully directed film. I feel like Tim's characters are so like... He wrote it for Tim.

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That's what I was going to say. Okay, got it, got it, got it. That makes sense.

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Anything that... He did like... He's done a lot of like John Early, Kate Berlant stuff.

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You should. Yeah, he... Don't you have to pick up your rover dog?

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oh yeah yeah lauren's got a side hustle she is she gets dogs from rover and then brings them to work so she's doubling really she was like i have to leave it too today and we're like oh what's up she's like i gotta go pick up my rover dog and that's like me being like i've got a starbucks shift tomorrow i'm gonna bring him but that's crazy that's a crazy side hustle i love dogs yeah that's nice great yeah you love this job i love this job and i yeah two things can exist at the same time

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But today they're not. Today you're going home at 2.

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Do you produce the other podcast?

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And then just this. Oh, wow. It is so nice to like... That's... Our friend John Luna, he's on the side when me and Jamel do this stuff. And it's a massive game changer. For years, it was just me and my buddy Jack. It was audio only and we would just be at his house. But then when the clips come up, Then you're like, then there's like a minute of you like, oh, let me find it on my. Yeah.

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And you're like putting the phone to your having started to get to in the weeds on the behind the curtain of it all. But we appreciate, you know, we appreciate what you do. You've been doing the shit a lot longer than we have.

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a pod yeah podcasting yeah that was you were you were like um yeah you told me at bernie you were like i i listened to i listened to your podcast when i was a little boy i did i literally when i was 19 and i took that year off school and was working on the campaign i was a patreon subscriber to his podcast you should get back on the patreon yeah okay Do you have one now? Yeah. For the new one?

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Yeah. Okay. Of course. I don't. Yeah. I need money.

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Please get on. Just give me five dollars. I. Yeah. No, it is. That is something where I that happened that I remember the first time it ever happened. Where I was at... It was like... Oh, I was doing a show in Boston. And I was visiting the Harvard Lampoon Castle. I've been. Yeah. It's like a dungeon. It's like a crazy place. No, it's crazy. Yeah, they have a castle. Yeah.

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uh connor p nice yeah like is that a kid yeah because there's like a nut there's a different connor in the class and so this is that's the other that's connor that's like that's a seven-year-old yeah there's some parent out there getting their son ready for school they're like con holy shit they don't connor are you oh he knows connor p i i don't yeah i don't know any seven-year-olds

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and um yeah no it is it's crazy that like that like party hall they have is like it looks like the like hogwarts like dining yeah and i walked in there and it was like yeah immediately yeah some kid was like oh i've been listening to your podcast since i was in high school and then that was like the first time where i sort of felt i felt old Yeah. I mean, I'm 32. That's not old.

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That's also a veteran play because a lot of people get the one with the egg and cheese too. That one's overkill. This is the best one. I always, like, because they ask, they're like, sausage, like, I'm like, no, no, just sausage. This is fun. I don't really like the cheese there. I mean, it's fine. And the egg they put on this one is different than the... It's not the scramble.

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That's pretty old. Yeah. No, I'm just kidding. But no, but I guess I also just started young. Yeah. So it's not, you know. Yeah. I don't feel crazy about like the sands of time. But I feel like it's interesting. Yeah.

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Yeah, because I feel like you are big on Twitter. But I feel like that's like... Unless I'm just missing out on something, like less of a way to get notoriety now.

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Yeah, I don't think that... Yeah, Twitter's not creating stars.

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Yeah, like now it just kind of exists.

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Yeah, it's like if you got in... If you get grandfathered in, I guess, into... I don't... Yeah, I mean, it's not a top priority. I'd like to pop out every couple weeks or every month and show them I still got it. But, yeah, I mean, I was very off it for a long time, but it is...

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Yeah, I mean, the way it works now, it's just, like, ever since, you know, I guess post-Elon, the way it works, like, once people could pay to be verified... And then, you know, get paid for posts. What that incentivizes is people just like posting like reactionary shit.

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Where it's like people will like get on there and like say things they don't even mean. Right. Because they're like, like rage bait. I like the ones that are like, do you see what I see?

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And it's like a clip. You're like, I don't even know what. Oh, yeah.

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I mean, it's a bunch of like, yeah, it's just a lot. It's a lot of spam. Yeah. You know, the replies to like, do you see what I see? Or like, do you see my giant ass on my OnlyFans?

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We're like, I mean, I remember when that started happening. I watching that shift. Cause you were into that for, you did a little bit of that, right? Yeah. I was like, I gotta, yeah, I gotta let's like, yeah, let's get this. Let's get this money. Let's get this money on X. And so I was posting a lot of like, a lot of like racial stuff, you know? Um, No, the OnlyFans comment stuff.

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I remember the first time I saw this where it was some viral Spongebob post. Spongebob, he's always going viral. That man stayed going viral. One thing about SpongeBob is he going to go viral.

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He's going to go viral.

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When he runs with that crew he runs with, it's just straight goofy. There's a lot of clout in Bikini Bottom. Squidward, you see that guy? Dude, a lot of money to be made.

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He's funny. He's kind of an asshole, though. He looks funny.

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He's kind of a dick. Oh, but I saw a reply, like an OnlyFans person that was like, I used to touch myself to SpongeBob. It's just shit like that. Yeah, the OnlyFans bots. It's crazy. It's so many bots on there. Yeah. Patrick. All right. He's funny.

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I'm not a big Twitter guy, but I opened it up a couple weeks ago, and it was like person dying, straight porn, person dying, one funny tweet, and then all political stuff. Is it straight porn? What? What?

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is that what i said yeah no i mean like straight like like it was like straight you had to clarify it was like like straight up porn like straight up nothing to the imagination yeah it was dude it was straight up gay that's what porn was and uh on your for you page dude it was literally like the first i did zero searching it was whatever you whatever you open twitter up oh but just like yeah like so you haven't trained it i'm never i don't think it's trainable anymore

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good currently i did when i was seven for sure yeah probably eight i knew a couple seven-year-olds uh when i was eight problematic age gap friendship yeah i was like i um what who okay um what players did what other players were seven on their jersey Kevin Durant wears seven now.

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I think it is. It's like a stallion. For you is like... I was watching straight porn last night. I mean, look. Why do you keep clarifying? I don't like what my For You page says about me.

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It's all chicks with their boobs out.

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But it's not, it's like, it's not, they're not out. It's like, yeah, see, oh my God. And then look, and then this guy said, Twitter be wanting you to jack off so bad.

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Yeah, actually, that's very funny. It's literally. It's just Dua Lipa. All women with their boobs out. It's literally just like Dua Lipa, Sidney Sweeney, Olivia Rodrigo. And then my friend Felix. So this is a joke that my friend Felix did. And then SpongeBob. Yeah.

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did my my like instagram explorer my reels i've got dialed down but if you open my like instagram explorer page it's all like horny stuff yeah but i'm not liking any stuff like that on instagram so like if i open no it knows that you're looking at it are you saving it no okay

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interesting i don't know he's saving it a little i'm saving it a little bit it will will put me on to um reddit reddit stuff where i put you on the concept of i wasn't on red i wasn't it no no whatever you're doing on reddit but i didn't know you could go private mode I put you on that? And Willie was like, yeah, man, you got to go private on Reddit. What do you mean? Or else they'd know.

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You can do private browsing because you can look at whatever you want, but they can't tell. Because I don't want to... Wait, who can't tell?

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Like, if someone went on your phone, they couldn't... For me, it's for the... Okay. Oh. It's for the algo. Like, when I scroll my Reddit homepage, I don't want like... Oh, you don't want it to be like fat dumpies.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I need to get a second Reddit for, like, information.

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Because I think that it shouldn't all be on the same Reddit. It shouldn't be under one roof. It's all, like, softcore pee.

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It's a lot of Survivor stuff.

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What's your favorite subreddit? Uh... i don't know i feel like i do like ones for like shows i like like you're on like the andor one or like the survivor one i like to read what people think about the episodes after i watch an episode of like a show that's airing are you posting on there no I have a few. Every time I post it, I've gotten some serious karma. Nice.

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I post on the Arrested Development subreddit once. I was top post. It went gangbusters? It went nuts. You got Reddit gold?

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I don't know. Reddit gold? How does it work? Tip of the...

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Hat to you, good sir. Reddit gold for you, good sir. You know, okay, have you seen Resident Evil?

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Of course. Yeah, you know the plot line? It's the best thing. It's one of the best programs. It's the best thing, dude. It's an awesome program. You know the part where Buster was a Milford man? He went to Milford Academy. There was a headline in the newspaper in Maine one time that was like, Milford man shot dead by police. And I posted that, and I was like, how did they get him?

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And all the comments were like, he was neither seen nor heard from again.

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Milford, for the people that don't know, Brandon, is a very rural town, like random town.

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I don't even know where.

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Because of Tony Kukoc. Whatever happened to him? I thought he was, like, really good. Now I feel like I never hear about him. I mean, he's older now. He's still awesome. He's still on the court. Yeah. I mean, he's done very well for himself. I do really... I was, like, obsessed with Fuck KD by Lil B. I've never heard of him.

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Let's get back into the episode. wait where'd you like grow up dc suburbs but i moved around a bunch uh my dad it was in the air force oh no i was at various air force bases until eighth grade and then that was yeah the dc suburbs like live on the base yeah there's like other kids there what's that which suburb which suburb oh fairfax oh i don't know i knew some people from silver spring and then

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Oh, yeah, that's the M part of the... Oh, you're from Virginia? Yeah, Northern Virginia. Nova. Nova 703. All day. But, yeah, I... The Air Force bases, yeah, they're like simulation towns. Yeah. Air Force bases, yeah, there's other kids. There's like an elementary school that I would, you know, walk to. And...

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yeah it's like you have like one burger king yeah you have like the bx or the px and that's like the on base like target well the commissary okay the grocery store and it's all you have a burger tax free yeah burger king really like

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I don't know what it is about the... I don't know if this is still the case, but this was the case in, like, the 90s and early 2000s, is, like, Burger King and the military-industrial complex. I don't know. They have a working relationship. It's like, there's a Burger King on every military base. That's crazy. Yeah. Because there's not, like...

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There's mostly not a lot of chains on the base, generally. Maybe they were like, no one's eating our food in the real world.

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Burger King was definitely up at that time. Yeah. But I do have a very vivid memory of fourth grade, 9-11, right? And then I remember you had to show your military ID everywhere the day after 9-11. You're like, dude, I'm just... Just getting some nuggets. I don't want any trouble.

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I have a very vivid memory of being at Scott Air Force Base in Illinois and showing my military ID at a Burger King on September 12th.

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Really? Have you not heard of him? What did he do to Lil B? Fuck Kevin Durant.

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And it was because of 9-11?

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Yeah, they were like, now we got it. Yeah, when 9-11 dropped, I remember we had to leave our backpacks at school. They were like, everybody, like, leave your backpack. I guess they had no idea what was going on. Yeah, they had no idea, like, the scope.

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yeah it is funny yeah they don't know where the threats are coming from so they were like right it could be in the burgers yeah no it was probably a bunch of saudi pilots and a few kids on an air force base al-qaeda was talking to this fourth grader in at scott air force base

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fuck uh yeah i don't know if we could could we pull it up pull it up maybe we don't have to well he he gave him the base god's curse because he said he like tweeted one thing about little b once yeah like i think before he was famous kevin durant i think before kevin durant was famous how old is little b um i mean he's just been at it for a long time Oh, wait, can we pull up the music video?

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Yeah, he never wanted to know how to finish the equations in math class. He never wanted to know how to start or finish them.

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There was a place... My parents live in Winter Park now. I went to college in Winter Park as well. And Baldwin Park is right next to it. It used to be like an old... military base, and they turned it into a town. And you're right. It feels like... Because it's still the layout, so everything's perfect. It's like you're... Pull up Baldwin Park, Florida.

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It's like Nuketown from Cod, where nothing's... When you go into this place, it's like all... it's like perfectly arranged see how everything's like on like a grid yeah it's kind of cool you walk through it and it's like this utopia no that is that spooky maybe it's like you get like a weird feeling going in there yeah every grade before they made a park too well that's crazy that is crazy

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Yeah, I mean, every grade before, like, fifth grade was on an Air Force base. That's crazy. And then... Then you could go to high school? What's that? Or middle school? Like, off the base? No, like, that was... Yeah, that was, like... Oh, because, like, Hawaii and Alabama have really bad public schools. And they didn't want me to... It's...

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forget well i ended up going i went to catholic school like in uh fifth grade sixth grade seventh grade and then eighth grade onwards regular public school outside of an air force base yeah yeah that's where i went to catholic middle school and then yeah public high school nice it was wait where'd you go to catholic middle school charleston south carolina Oh, wow.

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We got an Air Force base there?

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2000. Yeah. Wow. Crazy. Yeah. It's pretty fucked. Can I go to the bathroom and then we'll do the roadmap? Yeah.

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I'm going to go pee as well. Oh, yeah. Great show.

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brand city's got more thoughts about twitter you want to share oh we are where's we're recording you're you're 27s man i'm i'm usually a turkish royals man uh tasty cigarette yes the camel turkish royals it's like a it's it's delicious i would never describe a cigarette as delicious except for in the case of

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turkish royals um but no they were out the store by your office um which is the address is that one we've said it before oh yeah what is it our address oh oh yeah 149 bay street oh you just said we i don't think we're supposed to but we said it and a few people sent us some stuff oh that's like i think that 149 bay street yeah also there's two

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even if someone got here, like you, you were invited here today and you've gotten locked out twice.

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It's not, it's not easy to get in, but it's an iron fortress. Mine, mine is like, it'd be a lot easier to, um, harm me at where we record, but that's also the address. If you just search bad ladder on, cause they do shows there. Yeah. It's very easy, but I don't think anybody cares enough. Um, I think that's a similar thing that we're with.

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The only people that do care, they care in the best way where people are writing us handwritten notes. Of course. There's nothing incendiary. Oh, what I did want to say, by the way, is the vis-a-vis Twitter stuff is the... Another thing that happened that I think was a harbinger of bad things to come. Of course, I know what harbinger means.

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Lauren's... What's the nice way to say this? Lauren's really dumb. What does that mean? You gotta think of a better joke. That wasn't even worth it. Yeah, that was... Apologize to Lauren. I'm sorry, Lauren. I don't know what the word means.

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A harbinger is sort of an indicator of something to come. An indicator of what is to come.

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Music video, yeah. Is that the music video?

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Yeah. You know, like a warning of what is about to come. It was when Twitter likes became private. When the likes became private. Because when Twitter likes were public, they should be public. But the thing is, now that they've been private for so long, you can't make them public again. Because then it's like... Oh, so you're saying people were more skittish to like sexy stuff?

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So the sexy stuff wouldn't do as well?

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No, because I wasn't liking... If like, you know, there's like some kind of like a bikini, bikini, babe, gif or whatever. Yeah. I would not like that when it was when Twitter likes Republic, because at the time it was like when I mean, Twitter like should be public. Who is the congressman that was Ted Cruz?

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No, that's not it.

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Ted Cruz is like he forgot to set up a private and he was just seeing like in all sorts of there was some kind of intern actually who did it. Really? Was that the story? That's what he said, yeah. I just heard a crazy intern story the other day. I won't say where, but some agency here in Los Angeles, the assistants do their boss's expenses, pretty standard stuff, whatever. Yeah.

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One just came through. It somehow slipped through the cracks. One of the assistants there was putting her Groundlings courses on her boss's Amex. And they caught it. And the person was like, oh, it was an honest mistake. And they just believed them. Isn't that crazy? Oh, wow. If you were using Edge's card to go to the movie, or I guess go to night school or something, that would be crazy. Yeah.

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They made a Fuck KD 2.

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Go and get your MBA on Kevin's card. She's probably ready to get an energy drink.

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I want one as well, actually. Do you have a tropical punch over there?

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Do you have cold energy drinks?

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I don't know if we have any that are cold, do we?

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I don't think so. You don't? We dropped the punch, man. How do you not have... Lauren, I'm sorry for calling you dumb.

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Well, he also... You were calling yourself... Well, you were calling yourself dumb first.

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And then you chose to project.

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Yeah, he chose to, you know. Which he could have taken ownership.

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Of just like not knowing that word. Yeah, that was my bad. But he chose to throw a woman under the bus. Right. Which is something I would never do. But that's just, you know.

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Because you have that sign in your yard.

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That's not my style. Yeah, Will got arrested for throwing a woman under a bus one time. No. Should we roadmap it up? Oh wait, we didn't even hear your Twitter. No, just the likes. Because my For You page would not look like that if likes were public.

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It would just be like witty observation. If they released them all.

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If they un-privated likes, how many lives would be real? Mine, for sure. It would be... Yeah, because if you were to look at my likes, it's like...

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You don't know Lil V?

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yeah now because i i had friends that would like look at i you know i the likes public likes have was it was very like functional and useful like i i had you know some of my my more cerebral friends i would look at i would look at their likes to become more informed right you're like okay this is what's happening in the Oh, my smart friend liked these tweets today.

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Why is he so what?

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Or, you know, you'd find funny things, whatever. Yeah, your horny friend. Yeah, I had friends that would look at my likes to see, you know. I was curating some good stuff there. And then now, you'd be like, this is gooned out. This guy's gooned out of his gourd.

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I would look gooned out of my gourd if you were to look at my public... If the likes became public again. But it's not even like... It's not porno.

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Oh, I like this. Wait, no. Oh, let it play, please.

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It's like Maxim type stuff.

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It's like Maxim horny stuff. My... I think the only thing I would get in trouble for if my likes went public is I only follow a handful of accounts and one of my favorite accounts has kind of an unsavory name. And so he's very funny. What? But you can't... I literally can't say it. It's like a... His first name on his Twitter handle is a gay slur. Okay. Oh, F Jackass? Yeah. He's hilarious.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, like, you can't... Like, Sam and I will send them to each other, but, like, we can't like this because it'll be, like, liked by this person. Like, we can't repost it. Well, you can now. Do you change it? No, I mean, it likes... No, but it'll be, like, this post was liked by... They don't do that anymore.

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Interesting. Yeah. They don't do that anymore. Yeah.

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I'm in. I'm going to go like some real horny shit now that I know that.

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Roadmap is where we tell them what we're going to do this episode. Oh, yes. We cut all this just to warm you up. Oh, great. No, this is where we get into our segments. Are you ready? Of course. All right, we have a beautiful episode for you guys today. We're going to hear your pitches followed by our pitches. Then we're going to do everyone's favorite segment. Brandon, say it with us.

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Teach me something. I didn't tell you about this one. No, you didn't. But he knew it. That was kind of impressive. No, what is it? We just teach each other something. So if you have a fun fact or something. And then we are going to do... This guy rocks.

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This guy rocks. This guy rocks today. Hey, hey, I said this guy rocks and he rocks so hard. He rocks in your house and he rocks in your yard.

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Still on the court, and I'm still holding court. Wait, he played at Duke? Lil B?

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There's rocks in my yard. And then we're going to do, we're playing the hits. We always do this when we have a guest. We're doing sayings that don't exist. And then a new segment straight from the mind of our good friend, Will Angus, old timey baseball names that don't exist. And then we'll wrap up with Rusty's song of the day.

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Lauren, let's hear some pitches. So, Brendan, the way this works, you can be any judge, any shark you want to be, and we're going to hear a business pitch, and you're going to say whether you would invest.

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These are listener-submitted business pitches.

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Will typically goes with Randy Jackson.

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I'll be Randy Jackson. Say your thing, Will. I'll be Randy Johnson, actually.

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Say your thing that he said. Oh, he killed a bird. Yo, dog.

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Yeah, he did kill a bird. He killed a bird with that baseball.

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Yo, dog, fuck that bird. I'm going to be... I'll be Harry Mandel today.

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oh and um wait okay oh this is the so you can pick like any celebrity judge oh any celebrity judge from any anything from any program yeah well the joke is that we think they're all from shark tank oh yeah okay so pretend like you think it's from shark oh oh oh paul abdul from shark tank from shark yeah that's good lover stuff all right here we go what do we got lauren all right first pitch is from raya marie

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Oh, wait. They just showed a clip of him playing on, like, SportsCenter.

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Posh. You're sporty. Wait, did you say scary? Which one dated David Beckham? Posh. Victoria Beckham. And then scary was like... Not scary.

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Scary Spice was one of them?

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Scary Spice was... Wasn't she like the only black one? I believe. And they made her scary? That would be hilarious. I'm pretty sure that that's what they did. Yeah? Oh, Nell B. She's also a celebrity judge.

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There we go. Look at that. Okay, yeah. So they were like, the only black one is scary. Posh. Sporty.

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Fashionable. Rich. And scary. The one black one is scary. Jesus Christ.

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It's a fake song. Yeah. Lil B wouldn't do that. Yeah. It goes against his code. It goes against the... Did you hear that? No, what did he say? Sorry for the... Are you going to go back? He said, no, no, no. Oh, but he said, shout out to the WNBA. You got some finance girls. I don't know. No. And that's... I'm sorry. I'm sorry he said that. I hate this song.

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That's kind of fun. I hate shit that's only when your car is stopped. If you're a passenger, you're in a passenger seat, and it's like you can't connect to Bluetooth until the car is stopped.

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When we get in the Uber home, I've had many an Uber driver pull back over.

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Yeah, they have to pull over.

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I also, on the same point of the stopped thing, like, rarely in rarely in traffic or you stop for more than a couple seconds so like if you really wanted to connect with someone you would have to like fly up to them and like put it in park yeah hold up traffic until they like like you you could have done that with barney james

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Yeah. He saw Brian and James. I saw Brian and James. Where? On Montana Avenue in Brentwood. What was he driving?

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He was driving a white Porsche. Oh, sure. Pretty cool. I mean, oh, in Brentwood. Yeah. You're going to see a lot of stars. We're neighbors. You're going to see a lot of stars in Brentwood. Are you in Brentwood? Do you live there? Yeah. You know who I saw on Stars there? Oh. There's a lot of actors where you're like, I've seen that guy. For example, pull up Sexy Lawyer, How I Met Your Mother.

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I saw this guy at a coffee shop in Brentwood. Pull up Sexy Lawyer just regular.

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Were they together?

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Wait, sorry, Keanu Reeves and who?

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Oh, if you go to the Country Mart. Yeah. I used to get my coffee at the country mart. Look up Brad Morris, actor.

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It said his name on the thing. Brad Morris. No, Brad Morris, How I Met Your Mother. How I Met Your Mother. There happened to be... So who is he played by? Joe Manganiella.

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Yeah. He's the host of Deal Island. That's the funniest dude reality show. He's a salt and pepper hottie. Is he married to somebody? Yeah. Oh, is he married to Sofia Vergara? Wow. Oh, that makes sense. I fell asleep watching Temptation Island and, you know, it like starts a new show, like a recommended show, if you know whatever.

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I woke up, I'm like the middle of episode one of Deal or No Deal Island and like trying to like piece together what the fuck is happening.

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That's such a funny reality show. They just had to use the branding of something else.

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Or they were like, all right, we need an island show. Everything's taken. Why not just take the thing that's been taken for 40 years?

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I want to see Survivor in the set of Deal or No Deal. Now that would be interesting. All the briefcase models have to vote each other out. Write that down.

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I love it. You're in the studio, but you have to afford it. They all have to live in the studio, yeah. In those really uncomfortable cocktail dresses for weeks on end. Yeah.

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All right, we're here to talk to you guys about my favorite underwear, Willie's favorite underwear, and Lauren's favorite underwear. And America's favorite underwear.

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America's favorite underwear. Skims. I'm happy to say I've been a Skims guy even before we were sponsored by them. Here's why. When I'm wearing, sometimes I go brief, sometimes I go boxer. Either way, the number one problem that I would run into is they scrunch up in my thing when I'm moving about, when I'm sitting around. Ever seen a rusty rearrange? You guys ever seen a rusty rearrange?

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You're apologizing on behalf of Will B. But yeah, he said, let's play a game of 21. It's really fun. He wants to play Kevin Durant in a game of 21. Yeah. Yeah, Kevin Durant just like, he was being negative. And so he cursed him. There's a lot of lore here. He went on ESPN a couple times. Yeah, he was wearing grandma earrings on ESPN. I don't know if it was first take.

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I used to be going nuts before skims. But when I put my skims on, whatever length I pull them down to, they stay there the whole time. I wear their pajama shorts.

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They're also so comfy.

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unbelievably comfortable yeah i go with the five inch like the boxer brief and then i have like the looser ones too the looser ones have a fly which i like but if i really want to just pack everything in there i wear my uh boxer briefs the five inch cotton ones yeah white yeah which is a dangerous game For a guy like you, that's borderline heroic. Braver men than me have made that mistake.

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But my favorite pair are the green ones. Okay, I've got like a gray pair. I actually kind of like the longer ones.

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I do too. They sit down here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's fantastic. Truly cannot recommend them enough. I have the crew neck, the matching sweatpants, the pajamas, the pajama shorts, and the boxers. If Skims made a car, I'd drive it.

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I didn't know they were for dudes, and boy, am I glad I found out. Yeah. Let me just say that. So, guys, shop Skims Men's at Skims.com, and please let them know that we sent you. After you place your order, select Podcasts in the Survey and select our show in the drop-down menu that follows. Let's get back into the episode. All right, Lauren, should we hear another pitch?

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oh and her name is raya yeah and she has a dating app idea and that's that's interesting what's that are you on right i i'm not anymore uh i um i was how was i have a girlfriend that i met on raya fantastic Actress. I got waitlisted. On Raya? We gotta get you in there.

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I had two viral TikToks, and I was like, I'm getting on Raya. And so I applied. I was like 18. And then they waitlisted me, and then I don't know how to... I don't think you can redo it.

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I don't know. Because they started... it's not the star studded app that people think it's like bouncers.

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There's like, it's the most like, and I can't imagine like what women are looking at on there. Like what, what they're getting, like, they think like, this is my one way ticket to like, to like fucking yeah. John Mayer or whatever. I, but it's like, it's all, um, you're going to find a lot of like, um, like model DJ creator. Yeah. I mean, Alvarez types. Like, you know. I don't know who that is.

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I don't know who that is either.

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Jay Alvarez. He's so famous. He's so hot. Some of your cultural pools today. But he was abusive to his ex. Oh, that guy who's a sexy lawyer. How I met your mother.

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Google didn't know what you were talking about.

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It did. It took a second. No, no, no. The first like this. Okay. You don't remember this guy?

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of him in this girl not that girl him and another girl having sex and he like warms up coconut lauren's fucking seen it i've seen it every woman has seen i hadn't seen it we were i was driving in the car with my girlfriend and she asked if i had seen it she showed it to me and it's sexy wait it's like a sex tape it's a full sex tape and i got a boner and she made fun of me and literally every day is like remember when i showed you that jay alvarez video and you got a boner was like

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like she watched you get like it was a it was porn she showed me porn and you were driving yeah there's nowhere to go i couldn't go anywhere to cool down we're in like gridlock traffic and then we were you wearing like shorts i was wearing i was wearing like yeah like loose like kind of like these like patagonia shorts and you these are you pitched a you pitched a tent i pitched a little i pitched a little a big tent oh yeah i pitched a completely perfect size average tent um and she will not let it go

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it's a hot he heats up coconut cream coconut oil and then like pours it all over her body and then they like go to town coconut cream coconut oil coconut oil coconut oil coconut cream but like it looks like he heats it up in a coffee maker so it's like scalding frothing it that's like what I was about to say or that's what when I saw it it was like that that's the only not sexy part is if you fully think about it like that was probably boiling hot and he like poured it on her privates what the yeah what the

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I saw him in Venice one time, and he's just as hot in person.

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What is this? Hot Guys Podcast? Yeah, I mean. Where did you take me? What is this Hot Guys Podcast? You guys just look at. How was your day today? Good. I went on some like Hot Guy Podcast. Some kind of like. What were the Hot Guys Podcast? No. Google Hot. Google like hottest guy.

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They're just like looking at hunks. Yeah, Lauren. Google biggest hunk. craziest hunk google craziest hunk compilation what the hell is this oh you've never had a big hunk five hunk moments that restore my faith in humanity lauren big hunks are fucking gas you've never had a big that is a big piece of ass that's like yeah hate that that's sorry that's me guys do this for other that

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Why'd they give him a platform to do that? Because he's the man. Got clicks. Yeah. You guys never... I've never heard of Lil B. You've never heard of Lil B?

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yeah women don't like this no no nobody lauren what do you think that guy comes up to you at a bar does that exact pose and he asks if you want a drink what are you saying i'm i'm not saying anything i'm just you wouldn't take the free drink no he's gonna put a roofie in it no you can watch you okay you know for he's a bartender he'll put um he's a bartender and he's asking with protein powder can i get your muscle milk vodka muscle milk ew

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I want to be Lonzo. You're LiAngelo Ball. Yeah, okay.

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Oh, Big Baller. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Trying to figure out if you're going to live together or not because it's that... If you move to a new city, you should live in separate apartments, but it feels like you should maybe live together.

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What's the question?

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Oh, what's the hardest part?

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No, I've heard of Lil B, but I don't really have any... Oh, also, before we go any farther, we're here with Brandon Wardell. Oh, yes.

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I mean, I guess, yeah, the moving in conversation. Well, I guess you have to move in. If you're moving to a new city, then you have to.

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Yeah, I guess that's true.

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Otherwise, it's like...

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Do you go to church? Yeah, getting into a good church. Finding a good church home. Finding a good parish home. Final answer. Sorry, finding a hot priest.

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All the priests are saggy.

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That's for fucking. People are going to use it for fucking.

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Yes. Yeah, sorry. He's a comedian. yes uh fellow podcaster i have a podcast with my friend jamel called the brandon jamel show and that's on instagram oh you know go on instagram follow me on that you know go there i'll post uh dates for the road oh yeah yeah all that but And I, what was your name? Lauren. Lauren, yes. Lovely to meet you, Lauren. Nice to meet you.

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Yeah, people are going to use it. No, people will immediately use it. People are going to split each other open like coconut. Oh, my God.

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They're going to be breaking back. Yeah, they're going to be breaking back.

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Busting each other's backs. There's just no way that app exists without people getting it.

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Honestly, Ryan, I think that my colleagues said it best. It's going to end in a crazy backshot fest. Yeah.

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absolutely it's gonna it's it's gonna be a gone sexual situation right right parentheses gone sexual all caps got parentheses gone sexual i think that yeah he even five gone he even accidentally added like the orgies part like a group event for couples one dollar might as well be a key one million dollar swingers People are going to be stuck under tables and whatnot.

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Yes. Lodged into camera equipment.

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Yeah. It's going to be nothing but stepmoms stuck under tables.

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Yeah. They were like. Are you guys minor league baseball guys? Yeah, I'm a Seadogs fan. Willie's a Rumble Ponies. I have a lot of good. Riverdogs. When I lived in Alabama, Montgomery Biscuits was a lot of Montgomery Biscuits games.

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I've been to Montgomery.

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I have some of that. I have some of the merch. Tacoma Rainiers. Yep. Everett Aqua Socks. Ever heard of them? Aqua Socks. Stop playing with me. Stop playing with me. At the Seadogs game, if there was a foul ball, they'd play a huge glass shattering noise and then they'd go, better call Portland Glass, who was one of the big sponsors. And it sounds really realistic. And when I was a kid...

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I just thought that it was real. It would go, like, into the parking lot. And then you just, you're like. Like, oh, my God. Why is anyone parking at these games? At the Riverdogs. That's another great clips foul ball. Oh, yeah. I love. God damn. I need to black out at a minor league.

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Oh, my God. It's the best.

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dollar beer nights yeah we had those we had one of the uh the it was i think it was to promote recycling but one of the mascots was like a trash can and they were like he was like trashy or like garbage or like they mailed it in like it wasn't how does that promote recycling like i think it's like a lovable trash can i don't know but he would he would go or he'd be like a nightmare so he wanted to recycle i don't like totally remember i do think he was like the villain because slugger

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slugger was like the good guy yeah i think in in i think now that i'm thinking about he was he was the bad guy um your pitches oh yeah do you have a pitch what oh yeah um here's what i'm thinking right hit me you've you know mamava no the uh could we google mamava just the um the breastfeeding pods at airports yeah m-a-m-a-v-a

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Yeah. Oh, yeah. So, like, you see this at the airport a lot, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a private station for moms. Wait, is there milk on the outside? No, it's a cloud. It starts on the inside. It's clouds. That would be crazy. It's clouds. But here's what I'm thinking, right? So, we got these, right?

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It's, like, you get on the app or whatever, you get in there, and you breastfeed your baby, right? Mm-hmm. But here's the thing, right? Sometimes it's late-night flights, right? Yeah. Sometimes you're at the airport, it's late. It's after hours. This is what I'm thinking, y'all. Momova after dark. And it's me, and it's me and a bunch of MILFs in there, and we're hotboxing that shit.

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So it's Momova After Dark, and basically it's me and a bunch of MILFs, and we're hotboxing. Just you. Yeah, or somebody else.

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And I brought, she's having a McGriddle for the first time. Lauren and I both had our first McGriddles. And he had his first McGriddles. Really good. First ever guest to come bearing breakfast. Yeah, actually, respect. Yeah.

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The service is only for you.

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But it's me and a bunch of the finest MILFs you've ever seen in your life, and we're hotboxing that shit. mom of a after dark all right i like it i thought it was gonna be like a normal are you in i'm in that sounds pretty cool i don't know how we're gonna make money off it but i like it yeah well i'm not it's not really it's not about money to me yeah

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it's sort of it's a lifestyle this is something of a passion project right right and yeah do you like it i like that a lot i thought i was gonna say i think i thought momova after dark was gonna be jerking off everything's well no but everything's the same except it's like a red light district scenario where it after dark it switches to clear red glass people who are like sick fucks can oh watch perverts perverts yeah i mean it oh

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That is... Do people go in and jerk off in those things? No. No, I don't even know. You can't just definitively say that. Well, no, you don't... How is... What is the screening process, actually, for Mamamoo?

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I bet there's none.

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I bet you... I can just get the app and go in there and take a nap. Yeah, what the fuck? How do I get a... Oh, actually, how does this work? It's free. It's free. Look, mom of a app. It's free. Yeah. Google can boys go into mom of a. How do I dad? Breastfeed on the go. Oh, I'm about to. I'm downloading that right now. Yeah.

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Okay. Oh, so I can do this. I can live this. Yeah. I can do this right now. Yeah, I guess. You gotta get a bunch of milfs. And you gotta get weed in there, Bryce. If you came out of a mom-of-a alone, as a guy, five badass 50-year-old women come out after you, they're like, oh my god. You can board right away, brother. Is this Brandon just in their hotbox? Yeah, that's my kind of lounge.

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I've got shoe maps.

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yeah this is you know so you don't you know when you're like trying to get somewhere on foot and you don't want to have to like pull out your phone and keep checking it's just a little like led screen on the heads up display yeah so you can look down and it tells you like turn right oh that's fantastic actually yeah oh like the shoes it's on this it comes with the shoe yeah and it connects to your foot or connects your phone

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well because i was late i was late because well i wanted i'm coming from like the other side of town yeah but then also i did want mcgriddles for myself and i knew and i knew that i was like like if it was like a situation where i was like if i leave now and i don't get mcgriddles i'll get there exactly on time Or I get McGriddles, but I bring everybody else McGriddles. And I pay that price.

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Imagine these things and it's like 100 feet.

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Take a left. You got the Berkey boys in the building. Yeah, we're the Berkey boys on the building. I'm in my Berkey's off of Perky's. You're eating jerky. Yeah. Straight from Turkey. Feeling quirky.

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what's the worst part about what's the worst part about uh people's perceptions of you people's perceptions of me that they might be negative like what's the like me personally you're just in general like like what are my worst qualities what's the worst part about people having perceptions about you Oh, is, I guess, your sense of self?

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You're just sort of like... They only know what they hear, right? If they don't know you very well, they're just going off of what they've heard from other people. Introducing the rumor mill. Okay. You can pay it to start floating just killer rumors about yourself.

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So it'll be like maybe a new guy will come – like a UPS guy will come into your office and be like, oh my god, dude, you're the guy that was giving that bad guy a wedgie out before work or something. Or like you're the guy who – I saw you stop a carjacking the other day. And everyone will be like – they'll spread it out over a couple months. But then how would they –

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Know that you're not using rumor, no?

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They don't know about it. They don't know about it. It's a secret app for us. It's a secret app for guys that need it. Carjacking.

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I like that. Since when is that a crime? I mean, it's... Yeah, carjacking. Since when is that a crime? I think that both meetings are totally illegal. No, there was that guy that killed himself. Oh, the ultimate gooner. Yeah, the goonicide. That was a carjacking. Wait, what? He got caught in a carjacking situation? You haven't seen it?

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He went to the drive-thru and he was jerking off. And the video went viral on Twitter and he killed himself?

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This is like the first thing that happened this year. Yeah, yeah.

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It's like the first thing that happened. Can we pull it up? He was like the ultimate gooner, I think, right?

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Look up ultimate gooner. Just goonicide. Just goonicide. Why are you... You guys are like bad at Googling. Google ultimate gooner. That's not what... No, it's if you just search goonicide. What? Goonicide? Yeah. Yeah. Bikini beans coffee. Bikini Beans Coffee. Go to videos.

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What the... Yeah, if you just search Bikini Beans Coffee... I will say Lauren's first Google had... It led to a link that said Hooters Style Coffee Shop. Oh, then maybe I fucked up.

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Ew, I don't like that. I don't like that guys were coming out. A goon meetup.

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That's fucked. This is it. That's the video? Yeah, hit it. Yeah. But the original video... Oh, this isn't the real video.

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No, I think... Oh, this is not the original video. Yeah, it is. Oh, he realizes she's recording and then... I don't know what... No, this is not the original video. It's like a fan edit. What an awful... But that's rule number one is you can't... If you're carjacking, you got to be on the highway. You can't be... It can't be going through a drive-thru.

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Well, that was the issue, is that he was going to... It was like a... Yeah, they have these bikini barista spots, and he was like a pervert that had done this before, and so she was filming him knowing that he was doing that. And then, yeah, he killed himself right after. Vigil held for, quote, goon lord. I don't like the vigil stuff. I don't like... Because that...

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Yeah, it's like a folded scramble. It's like a whole fucking thing. It's a folded log. Yeah. You would get overwhelmed. What are we talking about? If you get egg and cheese on your McGriddle, it's a fucking nightmare. But it's just sausage. Yeah. Those are the best ones. But so those types of patties, those are my favorite. Wait, did you take them back? No one in LA has those. It's good.

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Cause that was like a crime, you know?

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That was it. But you ever been to one of those coffee shops? What's that? You ever been to one of those coffee shops? Cedro Wooley, Washington. They have, yeah. Is it like halfway between Seattle and like Roach Harbor? I've been to, that's the, I think I told you the story. We went to this, it was supposed to be a topless coffee shop. I don't know.

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My dad and his buddy were like, they used to live in Seattle and they were whispering in the front seat and me and his son were in the back. And we were like, what are you guys talking about? They're like, we're right near, there used to be like a topless coffee shop. And we were like, oh, that's crazy. And we, like, convinced them to go through the drive-thru.

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And we got there, and now they were just wearing bikinis. Wait, is that what this is? I don't... Yeah, so you go to these coffee shops, and they're, like, scantily clad.

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Yeah. But you love it, right? It's great.

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I was like, Jesus.

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no but also that would be just as gross if he was doing it in any other drive-thru no of course well of course but yeah yeah i don't that guy's a freak 100 of course yeah i'm not i'm anti no i know i just i just took me i didn't know i didn't understand that's what this place i don't know if you heard this though he did pass away so maybe you don't want to speak ill of the dead yeah he was a freak

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Yeah. Yeah. New headline podcast producer. Hates dead. Hates dead people. That's going to be your headline.

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And you love it as well? I did love it. I wasn't expecting. I was laughing when you texted me. You were like, hey, I'm going to be 15 minutes late. Yeah. But do you guys want sausage McGriddles? Clearly, he's just on time and then going to stop at McDonald's. It softens the blow. Do you want the good news or the bad news? Yeah.

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All right. Should we get into this guy rocks?

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This guy. I have. This is one of my favorite guys I've ever seen.

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This guy rocks is just like a funny guy from.

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If you have one. Lauren, pause this immediately. And I mean it immediately. Oh, okay.

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All right, all right.

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Sorry. Okay, so this is a guy named Fletcher Daniel. Yeah. And he has been making music and posting clips of it, and he spams this one song. It's like his magnum opus. Okay. This is his thing. And it doesn't really make sense. He's trying to be very profound. I actually don't hate the thing, but don't read the comment until we listen to the video. Can I send this to you? Yeah, perfect.

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Now the jester holds the scripture And his love has the key to the switcher For the stained glass is more than a picture As the prophets cut the ties And Medusa held the lighter For my green-eyed scribe playwriter Who fell asleep before she was tired Just so time would pass

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Okay, pause it, Lauren. I feel like that wasn't horrible. No, no, no. Pretty harmless stuff a guy putting his music out there. Lauren, go to the top comment and read this. This guy took probably 20 minutes out of his day to comment this. It was the hardest I've laughed in a while. I hope you understand that this isn't a hate comment. I say this because I'm a hater.

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I say this not because I'm a hater or I'm rage baiting. Your music is not good quality. The instrumental is annoying and repetitive. And though you think your lyrics all come together by the end of the song, they do not. I'm not missing something. You just also aren't a good songwriter yet.

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Also, the way you write songs mixed with the outfit you wear in every video makes it feel like you're trying to copy someone else. I'm not saying change your personal style or your songwriting style, though if you want to do the meandering confusing until it resolves in the end style, like you or Bob Dylan, I would... Whatever he goes on for forever.

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And it was, it was, you have to be like fucking bananas to care about this guy enough to leave that comment. I will say, I think this guy's in a similar position to me where if I open Instagram, one of his videos is popping up. I now follow him. This guy? It's because I liked the first two, and it just knows. Wait, is Fletcher Daniel on? I don't know anything about him. This video has 15 lives.

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Well, it's crazy if I come in here with like a McDonald's bag.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. No one knows anything. How do you? What? This is the kind of videos that get served to me. I do follow him now. But it's like, originally I was like, okay, I don't love the song, but I don't hate it, whatever. Now I genuinely have convinced myself that I like the song just because I've heard it so many times. Yeah, that comment is fucking insane.

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Taking that much time is ludicrous. I don't have the word for it, but he is trying to do... It's like American Pie, where there's this crazy story, whatever, and he's trying to use those. You know what I mean? Fletcher is trying to do something that I don't think he is equipped to do, but I don't hate it at all. Yeah, because I was listening, and I felt like... I was like, what is this?

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Yeah. We were talking about that. Like when you show up to class late or something with like a coffee.

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Sorry, my reels are going crazy.

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Did you send me two, Brandon? I sent you his username, and then I sent you the video.

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Oh, I love this video. Have you seen this?

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I think that's Will and I's profile pictures that have liked this already.

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One second. I'm sending you an Instagram reel. Okay, ready?

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Yeah. It's like flagrant. Yeah. It's disrespectful. And I, I, you know, I respect, I respect the, um, the institution of course of McDonald's of McDonald's of podcasting of this, of the almost Friday media podcast.

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The Great Occasion.

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oh he's got it i'm obsessed with him that reminds me of ty really he's so cute all right i got i sent you my name britain all right i love this guy the milk family and the cream family have been feuding for over 100 years now but things are about to reach a fever pitch because little soy milk Just gave Little Han Cream pink eye. And now Mr. Cream is irate.

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He challenges the entire Milk family to a game of cream ball. And the way you lose cream ball is if you get creamed. And it's going back and forth until Mr. Milk corners Mr. Cream and unloads a huge creamy barrage. They're good sports. So they've invited the entire Milk family.

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And the Milk family accepts. And when they arrive there, the Cream family orders grilled cheese sandwiches for everybody. Things are going great. Until moments later. He has a great voice. Mr. and Mrs. Milk collapse. And they're rushed to a local medical facility. But sadly... Mr. and Mrs. Milk expired.

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Now, we don't know if the cream family poisoned the milk family or, in a tragic twist of irony, the milk family is allergic to dairy. What we do know is that little soy milk and little cocoa milk, they're crying their eyes out for mommy and daddy. And that's when the cream family approaches them and gives them a little piece of advice. Don't cry over spilt milk.

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And that's the name of tonight's fitz.

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Yeah. And then... Yeah. Oh, my God.

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Don't cry over spilt milk.

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I love this guy. I'm scared. No, go to his... No, what? Really, I think that... I actually think this is wholesome. Yeah, it is. Oh, the cream stuff. And then look. Oh. Whoa. Okay. Never mind. This is not... Oh, yeah. So he made like a... I can't believe there's people like this out there. Go to his profile. He's got a fridge, too. So he paints a jacket.

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building and uh i wanted to make sure that if i was coming late i'm coming correct yes and let's talk about mcgriddles because here's the thing right because you're having your you had you just had it i just um and we because we kind of got in the weeds we did a little bit before the before the mics were on before the cams were on so you brendan brought sausage mcgriddles not

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And tells a story. Yeah, he's done this a bunch. Willie just said that because he has a fridge, that means he has his life together.

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I said he has a life. I didn't say he has a life. He definitely doesn't have it.

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No, go to the one with... They're kind of... Yeah, Thomas...

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It's time for Chapter 2 of my 2,476-part series, Better Know Food Stuff. In this series, we're going to taste, touch, and smell our way to a less hungry version of ourselves. We're kicking things off with everyone's favorite tank engine, Choo-Choo Thomas, the Tank Engine. And Tom's just falling on hard times lately.

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He used to deliver everything, but now with Amazon, airplanes, and even drones, no one needs a tank engine anymore.

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And that means he's engaged. He's really good. He's really good when he does.

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He's a sweet guy. I don't think he does have good intentions. No, that's... He's a gooner.

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No, he's not. Yes, he is. He's going to fucking town on himself.

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No, he's just like an interesting style of neurodivergent, and he's very creative. Yeah. He's a bit of a gooner. And I like how... I think he's an interesting guy. I want to get my hands on one of those Jags. Dude, he promised that they're $250. Did he? Yeah. He knows his worth. Wait, no, no, no. It's the art of storytelling. Go back. If I never heard from him again, I think it would be too soon.

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He makes me really uncomfortable. I really like him. I know. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. I thought you were looking for it.

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This is some guy. This is a guy who runs a Chick-fil-A. Okay.

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These headsets are so funny. They're like, oh, I'm sorry. I forgot to store that order. I think I forgot to change mags during a gunfight. He's like a veteran.

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Wait, let me hear that again.

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These headsets are so funny. They're like, oh, I'm sorry. I forgot to store that order. I think I forgot to change mags during a gunfight.

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All of this guy's videos are just him being like, oh, we didn't get your sandwich order right. Do you think that mattered when I was on the battlefields of Afghanistan?

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have you ever seen that australian uh like whatever parliament they have over there some guy's talking he's giving an interview and he's like he's like i don't care if if uh if two men get married whatever as far as i'm concerned uh a thousand blossoms bloom or whatever you're like oh this is really wholesome he's like but i'm not gonna spend a second on it because there's crocodiles everywhere like eating and they're like oh my god you like

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You almost had the right idea for a second. He's clinging on to his war memories, I guess.

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Click on this guy's page.

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I would love to see some of his other stuff. It's like when your grandpa is having fun and then realizes that that's not his personality and switches back. Click on that top right one.

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You know some people come in and they don't know what they want for lunch. They say, Taro, what should I get? I say, you need to get down to the recruiting office and join the big fight and help out your country. Don't worry about lunch.

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Amen. It's also, like, not selling sandwiches. No. He's, like, it's, this is, like, while he's on the job. Yes. This is also, like, very, like, dual income. Anti what Chick-fil-A is, like, all about. Like, I feel like they definitely like veterans. No, I'm saying it doesn't feel like he's living up to the customer service that they have been. Yeah, it's not my pleasure. It's not polite.

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Was it my pleasure when I shot that man dead in Iraq? It was. It was my pleasure.

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It actually was, yeah. All right.

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It was not my pleasure when I engaged in friendly fire.

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All right, should we do teach me something? Teach me something. Teach me something. All right, here, ready? I got a real simple one.

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do you know that toronto is further south than milan italy really oh how crazy is that pulpit map is further south google map that's shocking how'd you learn this online relative to what each other each other let me see look see we got oh i guess well i don't try i was like right there

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sausage egg and cheese mcgriddles let me be clear there's a very i don't um yeah there's a very important difference between the two a lot of people think that you need the egg and cheese they they went with a different egg on this one and it's not good it's like a folded thing and then the cheese this is too much this is a classic case of less is more sausage mcgriddles love this stuff great science food

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And Milan's like up in northern Italy.

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That's fascinating. Isn't that crazy? I feel like I assume all of Europe is like south.

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More further south. That's crazy.

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That's just a fun fact I had. That's fun.

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I'm going to read you a list of vegetables, and you guys are going to try and tell me what they have in common. You're never going to guess. Oh. Never going to guess it.

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All right. Ready? Tomatoes, eggplants, potatoes. Veggie tails. Green bell peppers, and sometimes cauliflower.

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Fruit, technically? It's not ingredients for something. They all have some chemical compound in them that you would never guess.

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Neon. It's not ingredient. I know. I guess it's not ingredient. Okay. That does sound good. Jambalaya. All of these nightshade family vegetables have... Minestrone. Small amounts of nicotine in them.

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Eggplant? Tomatoes, eggplants, potatoes, green bell peppers and sometimes cauliflower have like trace amounts of nicotine. So to put it in perspective, you would have to eat like 20 pounds of eggplant to get the same amount of nicotine as like a cigarette. But they think that they have trace amounts of nicotine as like a defense mechanism against pests.

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Because, like, that trace amount to them would be, like, us, like, smoking a hundred cigarettes. I'm weaning myself off cigarettes by eating bell pepper and eggplant.

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Isn't that crazy? That's actually insane, yeah. Yeah, that's interesting.

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You get two beers in me, I will be ordering some bell pepper. 20 pounds of eggplant. Okay, wait. Just, like, you got any fun facts? You know, um... Yeah, actually, do you know about the Shake Shack? Not Shake Shack. I know about the Shake Shack. Do you know about the Steak and Shake owner? No. I love Steak and Shake. Same. Don't ruin it.

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Don't ruin it for me. Well, have you seen? They've really been going, like, full, like, RFK Maha. Oh, really? Yeah. Have you not seen any? No. Yeah, go to, like, the Steak and Shake Twitter page. Because I used to go to Steak and Shake a lot. So good. As like a kid. It got worse in recent years. I would hang there in high school a lot. Yeah. See, eat more beef tallow. Yeah.

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Pin tweet is RFK walking into Steak and Shake. Yeah. So the owner of the new owner of Steak and Shake, right, is this guy named like Siddhar Bilgari or something. Yeah. Can we look at look up Steak and Shake owner? This is like so. Yes. Wow, you nailed it. Sardar Biglari, right? And on Steak and Shake, I've seen it.

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There's one in Santa Monica where it's Steak and Shake by Bill Garry, and he has this kind of gaudy signature that he applies to the logo, right? That's amazing. Look up...

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yeah bilgari uh logo and then and then also he um yeah see steak and shake by bilgari and it's see it's like it i hate i hate this i hate this and then search uh search maxim biglari no way so no so these are like once great institutions um yeah and then go to images

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um yeah like see maxim biglari right he like puts his signature under the max he owns see he bought yeah he bought steak and shake and max and he bought maxim he bought maxim magazine they're under the same it's the same owner right and he uh yeah i mean it's the ultimate guy Yeah, I mean, that's what I would do if I was rich. Buy Steak and Chicken Maxim.

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yes um but the what's the science food like just made in the lab yeah it's like because it's a bun that's like pancake but it's like it's like with like just enough it's syrup in it they there are syrup pockets in it so ty my roommate ty and i were talking inside of it yes It's fucking awesome. The future is now, old man. I was eating a Crunchwrap Supreme last night.

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But it's, yeah, it's, and what he's done to Maxim is like kind of a bummer. What did he do? He's just like, well, I remember one of the things he got. There was a, I think it comes up, that New York Post, that New York Post link. This is, yeah, Alessandra Ambrosio got pissed off.

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because um he like took a photo with her and then um she thought it was just like a private photo yeah uh but then that was like in the magazine it's like him posted up with like the model which is like who wants it's like it's very strange it's a very strange like self-insert and he owns steak and chick

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yeah that is so like it's so weird to is maxim a full nude magazine no it's it's always been uh like it's like pg-13 it's like bikini like lingerie stuff got it it was it sort of tasteful yeah it peaked in like the early 2000s interesting it was like you know what did he do to get the money to buy these two things I don't know. I mean, I don't know what his... It's crazy.

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I think it's got to be some kind of weird, dirty money. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. I can't...

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um i didn't i i didn't realize we were doing this segment and so i didn't do my full that's my fault that's my fault um but it is interesting that's fascinating yeah it's like both owned by the same guy yeah that is immediately like he put his he puts his signature on it steak and shake by i hope he buys this company we have to put that under the almost oh yeah played it by bilgari yeah

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It's like, it's God, you know?

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Yes. That's very strange. Yeah. All right.

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Should we do... Brandon, you're the guest. Do you want to start with sayings that don't exist or old-timey baseball names that don't exist? Oh, let's start with old-timey baseball. All right. All righty. These are old-timey baseball names that don't exist. Sandstorm Potenzo. He ran so fast around the bases that a cloud of dust would go around him, and it made him very hard to tag.

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I've got Tommy Two Necks Thompson. First guy ever. He has two necks that meet back up at the head. Oh, I like that. Yeah, so if he wanted to, he could kind of, you know, if someone was throwing the ball, he could let it go through and take guys out.

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I got Frank Picasso Lagrange because he would paint the corners. I love that. Never forgot to paint the corners. Oh, that's nice.

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Market Crash Michaels.

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He was born on Black Tuesday, the day the Great Depression started. itchy the scalpel all connor because he was surgical with his pitches oh that's good the scalpel i also had uh uh pete the wooden hammer orion okay i couldn't come up with an explanation so i just left him out i like that i got one more uh weird dad williams his dad was a total weirdo Oh, I thought of one.

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Okay, so there's Corky Steroids. Corky Steroids, but he plays a clean game. That was just his government name. So his government name is, you know, his government name, right? Yeah. Is Corky Steroids, right? Which is evocative of a corked bat.

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Right, right, right.

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And using performance enhancing drugs. Of course. Using steroids. right but he was actually you know he was actually just naturally very gifted yeah he's a no nonsense he's actually a no nonsense all about the fundamentals like really good and a humble guy yeah and he was like a humble guy and he played clean but his government name that he was burdened with get this this is his government name

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is Corky Steroids. And yet, this guy, Corky Steroids, there was nothing like that about the way he played the game. But his government name is Corky Steroids. And you think he would change it for his professional baseball career, but he loved his parents too much. He's a purist. He didn't want to drag the good steroid name. He loved his mother and father too much to change his name.

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I just learned about them earlier this week. I've had two this week. Wait, this is your first? I've had two in my life and they've been in the last 72 hours. And I was eating it and I was like, There must be, and I bet the McGriddle falls under this as well. I bet every fast food chain that's doing it right has like one really high teenager in a room. They just keep, they pay him really well.

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I respect the integrity. Yeah. All right, should we do some sayings? Let's do it. These are more sayings that don't exist. Yes.

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living out of the dryer it's uh it's someone who's living their life in a lazy way they haven't hung up their metaphorical clothes and got their stuff together they're just kind of in the dryer mildew yeah yeah yeah so it smells i remember the first time i started using a washer dryer myself i didn't know how to dry clothes properly right and then i got a complaint

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I got a complaint that every time I went into this office, somebody tried to lay it on me gently. And they were like, we've been getting complaints that you're malodorous. Malodorous? Yes.

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because my clothes were wet and so they didn't like it like it's a weird smell when they go dry Jesus are you going oh yeah um let's see here oh oh this is I have a couple but I'll start with I'll like work my way up yeah so I'll say we go we go like yeah how about don't put the don't put the pie before the window sill Because you're going to need a window first. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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We can't be talking about treats and desserts.

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Like the ones that you float over and you're smelling the pie. Don't bake the pie before you built the windowsill. Don't bake the pie before you built the windowsill.

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I love it. That's fantastic. I've got slamming the door. Don't make it any more closed. So, you know, don't make a dramatic ending to something when you can just do it the easy way and not burn that bridge. Maybe. Yep.

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You can pee in the pool, but not into it. Everyone does some naughty things sometimes, but if you do it in a private way, you get away with it. If you do it in public, you open yourself up to criticism. I like that a lot. Thank you. Keep it to yourself. Do it, but keep it to yourself. Oh, one thing I use. Okay, so this is I need to preface this. Yeah, by saying that.

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Okay, so this is something I used to say, when I would like, I first started, I first started driving. Okay, when I first started driving, and I would, I would park in DC. I didn't know how to parallel park for a little bit. I would park really far away from a building. If it was less than one mile away, I was like, that's valid. I would park 0.9 away from a destination. Because you saw a spot.

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Yeah, yeah. And, um, you know, because I was afraid of parallel parking, right? So I'd park point nine. Yeah, away from a spot. And I, you know, and then, and I would like find a free parking spot. Yeah. Right. And then I would, I would turn to my buddy. And I was like, I was a I was a virgin at the time, of course.

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And I would turn to my buddy and he'd be like, Hey, man, I always said, never pay for parking, never pay for pussy. But you can only say that if you're a virgin. Yes. If you're a virgin, if you're not, then that's weird. Then that's like, that's not good. It's a scary thing to say. You shouldn't say that. You shouldn't say that. But if you're, for any virgin listeners, it's a fun little.

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We have plenty of them, I think.

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We curate that sort of stuff.

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They keep him there. He has all the ingredients and they go like, we're going to pay you really well. Just get really high and like report back, write down everything you make. The Crunchwrap Supreme is the highest thing of all time. It's a... It doesn't exist in nature. They put the hard shell in the soft shell. It's like super stimuli. Yes.

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Sound off. Yeah. Sound off in the comments if you're a virgin. Let us know if you're a virgin. I've got, you can't pour two pints at the same time. Oh, that's good. Yeah. You know, don't dilute the impact you're able to have by trying to do a bunch of things at the same time. Do things in order. Do the best you can.

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Yep. A healthy dessert doesn't make up for an unhealthy dinner. You can't fix a mistake you've made after unless you get to the root of the problem and solve that. Healthy dessert like strawberries. Sure. Yeah. Like a mango. Sure. Low-fat ice cream.

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Fruits. Low-fat ice cream. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You know, nightshade vegetables have nicotine in them. Like eggplant. This guy loves eating nicotine. He stays eating. Yeah. You love it. I love it. All right, what do you got? If you didn't go to sausage college, you best get off the grill. And that's something we've always said.

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Yeah. I like that. I love that a lot. Never build a window that opens from the outside. All right? There are some things that you don't want people to have access to in your life, so don't let them have access to it. Very nice. Insulate yourself in areas where it seems important.

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Wait, what was that again? Never build a window that opens from the outside. Oh, that opens from the outside. You don't want some guy coming in while you're sleeping. I like that a lot. Eating the pie off the windowsill. And he floated over from the... Oh, no. And then he ate the pie that you made. And you're really excited to have it. And it's an unhealthy dessert.

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Of course. It's all coming together. Have some eggplants at the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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All right. Let's wrap up with Rusty's song of the day. This is his song of the day. I think we're at 2,000 playmates jamming out to this playlist now. Wow. Yeah. Oh, I like that. By the time this episode comes out, 5,000. I believe it. I'm going to be pissed. I'm going to go with... He's going to do something really dangerous. Yeah.

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I'm going to go with A Sailboat for Sale by Jimmy Buffett and Toby Keith. I found it three days ago and it's already made it into my on repeat playlist because I get into the car and I queue it three times. That's the best feeling. It's always the first three songs I listen to. I listen to it back to back to back. It's basically they these two guys are drinking and they traded boats.

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Yeah, they had they had a handshake deal. They traded a riverboat for a sailboat and they're both sitting on their new boats and they're talking about how they they miss their old boat. And he says, don't don't make a handshake deal while sharing someone's bottle. I liked that a lot. That's a good line. So yeah, go jam out to that.

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Jimmy Buffett. Jimmy Buffett, man. And Toby Keith.

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I really like A Pirate Looks at 40.

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I'm a Come Monday, Tin Cup Chalice, Pirate Looks at 40. I think those are my three favorite Jimmy Buffett songs.

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i gotta do some more work in that department dude jimmy buffett he gets a bad people he gets a bad rap people thought he was he makes dumb music he makes awesome music i guess because he well his name is just like licensed right yeah we're going to margaritaville at sea yeah we're going to we're going to the bahamas yeah bahamas on the jimmy buffett yeah we're gonna swim with pigs are they um is it are they like paying you to be there or something

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yes i think we can say that yeah it's a great deal yeah oh wow but i that's crazy i i've been seeking this out for a while yeah it was a perfect they were basically like they our brand guy came back and was like they don't have you know your full rate whatever and i was like without fully showing my hand i want them to know that i would do it for nothing

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It doesn't talk about all like the same ingredients. Like they have like 10 ingredients and then they just like figure out new ways.

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I was like, I was, there was, there was a part of me that was planning on paying for it.

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It's a, it's a win-win. All right.

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Thank you, Brandon. Yeah. Thank you so much. You're on the internet. Yes. Instagram. Yeah. Yeah.

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Brandon Jamel show. Yeah. That's yeah. Get the podcast. You should get up. You should get back on the Patreon. All right, I'm in.

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We'll should get back on the Patreon. I'm back. But yeah, I mean, listen, go check that out. Listen for free. And then if you like it enough, get on the Patreon. And I should be back on the road soon. I think this comes out.

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uh this comes out next week yeah this comes out well yeah just just go to instagram and then sort of go from there yeah i would say or x you could be that's still you know i don't really just yeah you can't see his likes yeah yeah do not look at his likes not yeah all right we love you guys have a great rest of your wednesday have a great weekend and we'll see you bright and early on monday bye thank you

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It's also like kind of the healthiest one. Really? Yeah. Because of the lettuce? Yeah, because of all the lettuce. It's like a salad. No, it's like... No, I think it's literally like... Well, the thing is, it's like... They're doing all kinds of fucked up shit there. For sure. But it is like... I think like... It's not that caloric. It's like 500 cows. Really?

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Yeah, like it's like... It's a lot of the items. They're like... They're pretty small. I thought they were going to be massive. It's a completely reasonable amount of food. Yeah. I... I mean, yeah, the Doritos Locos Tacos is, like, that's a great example of, you know, this, like, unholy, you know, science food. Yeah. The thing that they do that there. Where the taco shell is Doritos.

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We're leaving all this in. I'm good. Millie's has those. Oh, I'm good. I got... This is crazy. This like... You like it? Yeah. I mean, are you guys... It's like... It's just... It's like... Yeah. Is it... Is it like a salary? Yeah. And you just do a bunch of stuff. We do a bunch of stuff. And then you get like a percentage of like the brand deals that you bring in. Oh, that's great.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you think about that?

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That's great. No, no, no.

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But if you showed that to a group of pilgrims, they would tie you to the stake and throw stones at you. And that's the thing. When I say believe the science... That's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about motherfucking McGriddles. That's where all of our research funding should go to. That stuff. Yeah. That's what I mean. When I have the fucking lawn sign.

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Yeah, it's like... What is it like believe scientists? Believe scientists? That is not the phrase. Isn't that what it is? It's not believe scientists. I've definitely seen believe signs for believe scientists sign Google. No, it's I think it's trust the science. I think you're thinking of believe women.

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oh well oh wait no oh yeah there's a science is real science is real no that was the sign though but like yeah we had a but believe the science is yeah it's that that sign says believe scientists yeah i guess suggest something else we moved out of our childhood home and a new family moved in and i went to chat i just wanted i was in i was in the neighborhood went to drive by it yeah and uh they had one of those signs we were like all right cool like cool people live here

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whatever scientists probably they had completely let the whole yard was overgrown and they were like there was shit everywhere in the lawn and they had like put a giant ugly sauna in the back and i was like okay we got off on the wrong we got off on the right foot and then you immediately proved me wrong or like tampers with the impact of the yeah yeah yeah yeah we they're giving they're giving scientists a bad name yeah exactly

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I don't believe so. Yeah, I would venture to say a lot of people that have that sign on there, that does not mean that they're a good person on an interpersonal level. That's true.

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Well, no, I think that is the ultimate litmus test. Yeah. I believe you have that. Those people coexist.

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Most of the time, like, they just, they want you, yeah. Look, whatever. I'm not going to get into... All that. Oh, yeah. Virtual signaling. Yeah. All I know is every teacher that I did not get along with their Subaru had a coexist sticker on the back. So it's kind of like it's a good thing. But the people that are publicly displaying it are typically annoying. I did. Oh, my fucking God.

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Oh, I rented it. I was in Washington State and I rented a Subaru. Nice. That's the place to do it. Washington State Subaru and the PNW Subaru hits different. A Subaru hits different when you're in the Pacific Northwest.

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one of those uh it was like ariana grande covers so how did you you guys met at a bernie yeah we didn't meet there no that's true we had met before we had met before but that was the first time we hung yeah that was the first time where we were a whole day together bro down yeah how'd it go it was great we uh

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that we were fight the oligarchy fight the oligarchy we fought the oligarchy i was dying laughing at there's a clip from your podcast i saw after that talking about uh aoc barely legal oh yes she might run because she's just turning 35 the year of the next so that is the that's the minimum age and so i was like i i yeah aoc is like barely legal that would be a good that'd be a good campaigns look yeah yeah

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that's i mean we i i do think yeah she should probably run she married uh yeah oh no she has a boyfriend isn't like she can't win she can't win if you're not married like it like oh no one's everyone who everyone who's ever gotten elected has been married i feel like there was some no i think she i think they're married it wasn't like james buchanan a bachelor looking into this

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Der Kuhlen-Mann.

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I listen to songs.

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God, we're on fire. The mechanic comes back out covered in bee stings. He's like... Yeah, I think it's the transmission.

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Are you joking? I don't know. Obviously there's not a lot.

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I got her, it was like she had never, I don't think, I think it was like a new, I think she might think I invented Pull My Finger, because I, we were sitting there, we're getting really into Southern Charm. Have you guys seen Southern Charm?

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Would you guys ever go to a mall? Yeah. A medium is when you speak to dead people, right? Not that.

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If the Christmas tree is close enough to catch, we have much bigger issues than the Christmas tree.

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Du machst es so, als wäre es etwas Schlimmes.

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Und ich sagte, nein, ich habe nichts. Ich habe keinen Müll. Und dann hat er sich umgekehrt und gesagt, was? Was, wenn du sagst, ja, ich nehme es, ich nehme es. Und du nimmst ein Stück Müll aus deinem Koffer. Just leave me alone, man. I have a family. Take my mud. Take my mud, man. Alright, should we get... Can I pee and then we can get on the road, Matt? Yeah, sure.

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Let's say... So Xi Jinping wants to go on. It's not Xi Jinping. You say Chinese gold medalist.

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Damn it! Sounds like a riot. Go find him. There was one time he was running wildly through the forest and he saw his own knights and fucking sneak attacked them.

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He was fucking bouncing around the party and he ran into one of the torchbearers and set himself on fire. All four of them got set on fire. And the only reason he didn't burn to death was his aunt jumped on top of him and was wearing one of those giant skirts and smothered the flames with their skirts.

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But this guy just sounds like a fucking riot, right?

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He makes $4,600 a month with most of it coming from the government and he spent a whopping $6,300 on expenses.

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You look like one guy's like, like standing on one finger.

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Did you not hear all this stuff about tooth pain? Okay, dude.

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Try that with a mall clown. See how that goes for you.

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Oh, hiccups for the rest of your life or no legs?

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And I went, oh, fuck.

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Why is my side of booby traps?

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i almost experienced korean fan death

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Yes, and so your brother tells you about that, your seven-year-older brother, when you're eight. And you're like, all right, well, that's ridiculous. I'm obviously not going to run the risk. And I still to this day crack my bathroom window every night and leave the door to the bathroom open because...

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Lately I started running my fan because it's gotten a little hotter. I was doing it last night and I was like, this is actually the most ridiculous thing I think I do. I've never talked about it. I'm glad you're getting it out. There are things like that that are like fun little quirks.

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I would be genuinely anxious if I didn't do it.

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That's like a harmless thing that you do. That to me is funny. If I lay down in my bed and realized that everything was sealed and the fan was running, I would get up and open the window.

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I couldn't go to bed like that. Google Korean Fan Death. I thought it was going to be like they put a fan in hyperspeed and could inch a guy towards it. Yeah.

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Really? I think we've done an 8 before.

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Ich würde sagen, ist es möglich, dass es etwas gibt über ihre Fans, die nicht sicher sind? Ich glaube, es soll mehr so ein Fan sein. Ich glaube, es soll mehr so ein Fan sein. Oh, I used to sleep like that. I would angle the fan directly over my face. Hopefully it wasn't one with arms that could choke you. No, it didn't. Yeah, that's bizarre.

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Oh, okay. This is the second. Tied for the earliest. It's 8am, so this is the first time where we are feeling the same way the East Coast Playmates feel when they're listening. Yeah. You know what was funny? I went to the... What? That's how you listen to a story. I'm looking at you. I woke up this morning and I wanted to go to the local flower shop, if you will. Come on. We all like to spark it.

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I mean, if I'm in my bed and my... I feel like this is very normal, but if I'm in my bed and my closet is cracked even like a slight, I have to shut it. Oh, I have to have mine all the way open. I don't like seeing any darkness in my room.

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I used to be like that, but now I have to keep my bathroom door open so I can get my... Ich muss meine Schlafzimmer-Tür und meine Schlafzimmer-Tür öffnen. Weil wenn es einen schlechten Mann gäbe, würde ich gerne wissen, was sie da sind. Ja. Glaubst du, es gibt schlechte Männer? Absolut. Hier?

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Es ist lustig, dass es Dinge gibt, wenn du etwas tust, wenn du zu Hause gehst, denkst du an koreanische Fan-Death. Ja. Wenn ich zu Hause gehe, diese eine Frau, Lizzie, mit der ich nach Rollins ging...

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like put she posted a tiktok or something somehow i got the information that you sleep a lot better if you put a pillow between your legs and so now every time i do that i think of her but like we're not even really close and then every time i shower i think of phil's uncle one time said the saying wash behind your ears as a like uh it's like a it's to teach kids to like be diligent or he said it when we were like in high school and i think about it every shower

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My mom used to always be like, make sure you wash behind your ears. Literally? Oh.

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Should I be washing behind my ears? It's about time we tell her.

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They reek. No, it's just like, whenever we're behind you, if you're listening and I'm behind you, it's just...

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Only if you're listening and I'm behind you. Are you implying that when Lauren's listening, they physically open up and we're like, oh, good lord.

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No, that is so cute, though. I love that about life, just how everything's picked up.

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Sure, keep going.

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No, no, I was just agreeing to his point about... Were you accusing me of cutting her off?

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No, no, no, I'm just hyper aware of any time Lauren's talking now, because people said that I cut her off.

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I thought you would finish what you were saying. No, I don't remember. It's fine. Continue.

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I was going to say that when I was growing up, like, obviously, like, I don't know, like, your parents teach you how to, like, take a shower, I guess, at some point. It was like, you put your shampoo and then your soap and blah, blah, blah.

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And there was one time, and, like, I just got very, like, I was hyper fixated on, like, the order of operations. Yep. And I remember one time I was in the shower and I put soap on and I realized I hadn't shampooed. And I was like, Jesus fucking Christ. And so then I shampooed after soap. And I came out and I was like, Mom, you are not going to believe. My goofy ass just did soap before shampoo.

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And she goes... Okay.

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Und ich war so komplett nach hinten. Und sie war so, ich bin an deiner Seite. Ich kann nicht, ich muss zuerst den Kopf machen, weil... Oh, wirklich? Gleiches Ding. Als ich in der Schule war, hat mein Freund AJ gesagt, dass wenn du zuerst den Körper waschen oder Soap machst und dann Schampoo und Konditioner machst, wird dein Körper nur Schampoo und Konditioner riechen, anstatt den Körper waschen.

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Das riecht immer noch gut. Ja.

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Es ist auch so, dass die Öle... Ich glaube, das gehört mehr zu Mädchen. Aber die Öle aus deinem Haar werden einfach auf deinem Körper fallen.

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i almost experienced korean fan death

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Wir wollen nicht über deine femininen Öle reden. Ich bin verrückt.

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Er ist nicht verrückt. Er ist wirklich ernsthaft über diese Dinge. Okay, vielleicht gibt es da eine Logik. In meiner Meinung war es einfach lustig. Ich war so, Mama, ich habe es verarscht. Sie war so, ich weiß nicht, komm wieder rein. Ja. Du gehst heute nicht zur Schule, Junge. Ich habe auch gerade gelernt, wie du dein Haar waschen kannst.

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Ich habe Shampoo und dann Conditioner gemacht, was völlig normal ist. Ich würde das nicht jeden Tag machen, aber an den Tagen, an denen ich es nicht gemacht habe, würde ich es trotzdem conditionieren. Offensichtlich solltest du nur conditionieren, wenn du Shampoo machst. Das weiß ich nicht. Ich habe es nicht gemacht. Ich habe eigentlich nichts gemacht.

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I know, I want to start doing that, because apparently it's way better for your hair, but I think it takes months before your hair would get used to it. Ja, ich meine, es ist seit ca.

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einer Woche und eine halbe gedauert.

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Warte, du hast keine Produkte in dein Haar verwendet? Ich habe keine Produkte verwendet. Ich glaube, er sagt Shampoo. Ich habe einen Shampoo in einer Woche und eine halbe verwendet. Ich weiß nicht, ob das gruselig ist. Ich kann es nicht wirklich sagen. Ich meine, meine Haare sahen gut aus die letzte Nacht. Es ist viel besser, wenn du über den Humpf kommst und die Öle korrekt sind.

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Get some marijuana edibles. Sometimes I like to take them in the evening.

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Wahrscheinlich ist das, wenn dein Haar am heiligsten ist. I just got sick of the like back and forth of like the days when I had shampooed. I had like a whole different haircut than the days. Yeah, it's insane. Well, we also have a lot of hair. My hair is thick and voluminous. And when I shampoo it, it goes. One time I wanted to get my haircut.

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There was a cool hairdresser place called Momentum, I believe. What? Oh, I was just doing like a weird thing. Oh, I thought you were like... No, I was clearing my sinuses. And it was like all the coolest barbers in town. And they all had like skin fades. And I had kind of similar to what I have right now. And I walked in and one of the guys went, Wowza, that's a lot of hair. And I was like...

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I brought some if you want some.

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Your damn right, new sheriff in town. I had a, every barber, yeah, every barber ever has been like, you got a nice head of hair. I'm like, okay, all right, stop. They're like freaks about it. Eating it? Well, now I go to Theo James' barbershop, obviously. Me and Theo go to a barbershop. Who is that?

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So I didn't have any and I was like, it could be like a fun thing on the boat that we're going on. Because we're going on a cruise right from this podcast. We are leaving right here to go to Palm Beach and then from Palm Beach to Nassau. Bahamas. Jimmy Buffetts Margaritaville Cruise. R.I.P. King. Ich habe gestern Morgen aufgewacht und dachte, oh Mann, ich habe keine Gummis.

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Du sagst immer, er ist so berühmt.

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Ich weiß nicht, wer er ist. Ich weiß nicht, wer er ist. Ich weiß nicht, wer er ist. Ich weiß nicht, wer er ist.

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Does he pay more than you pay? I don't think so. You could get that haircut.

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Which one?

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I don't know. I think he's just hot. Maybe just any haircut on him. Look at Theo James' long hair. You ever have long hair? It doesn't? Oh.

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I don't like that haircut on him. And he looks like Matthew Gray Gubbler.

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Pull up Tim Riggins hot.

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This is what I always... The way we've googled this probably three times.

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Yes, you do. If that guy walked in here right now, you would stop everything you were doing and you would lick his ass. I would tell him to button his shirt. I don't know. You don't think that he's hot.

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I mean, he's like objectively hot, but...

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Look at that. He's like a sleazy high school football player who drinks beers. Also that GIF, I mean he was like 20 when he was playing it. That GIF is a scene where he has school that morning and his brother wakes him up on the couch in a sea of beers and he's with his high school girlfriend.

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I don't like him.

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Das ist cool, Mann. Die Highschool-Szene macht mich ein bisschen traurig. Er hat auf dem Kühlschrank geschlafen. Er ist ein schlechter Junge. Er hat auf dem Kühlschrank geschlafen. Ich habe zwei Jahre in der Schule auf dem Kühlschrank geschlafen. Wirklich? Ich bin wirklich traurig, das zu denken. Warte, warum? Im Junior- und Seniorjahr habe ich jeden Abend auf dem Kühlschrank geschlafen.

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Du hast auf dem Kühlschrank geschlafen? Ja. Warum? I just... I don't know. I think there's a lot of reasons. I think... I think that living with so many people in college is really like... There's a lot going on. And as much as... And I'm always like want to be social and stuff. But I think I also need my like alone time a little. And like I shared a bedroom too.

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So it's just like... I think I would find myself just... Never slept in your bed. Like... Ein paar Mal im Monat vielleicht. Nicht zu exagerieren. Ich habe 90% der Nacht auf dem Kühlschrank geschlafen. Wir hatten eine Kühlschrank-Sitzung. Es war ziemlich traurig. Ich würde durch meine 1 Uhr-Klasse schlafen. Ich würde bis 5 Uhr schlafen.

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Der einzige Fall, an dem ich das gemacht habe, war, als Harper und Peter im ersten Semester ihres Seniorjahres ins Ausland gingen. Und ich hatte Angst, in meinem Zimmer alleine zu sein, also habe ich jeden Tag im ersten Semester auf dem Tisch geschlafen. Aber das war der einzige Fall, an dem ich das gemacht habe. Ja, ich weiß nicht.

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I don't know. When we lived together, you slept on the couch most nights, too.

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Vielleicht könnte ich gehen, aber ich habe wahrscheinlich keine Zeit. Es gibt keine Art, es zu öffnen, bevor wir es um 8 Uhr eröffnen. Die Sponsore öffnet um 7 Uhr. Yeah, I went in there. It's like 730 this morning. And I was like, why are you guys open?

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That was still in your... Same, yeah. Still in your couch phase. Because we were... Yeah. We were butting heads. Our beds also touched each other, which I think is... Yeah, we were very close. For real. Like a weird, like, L-shape. Chester, like, tricked us into, like, switching rooms with him. Yeah.

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And the original room, we had, like, a couple feet apart, and then this other room was meant for one bed, and... Yeah. You guys ever been flat? I was gonna tell you my barber. Please. His name was in Portland at the Black Door. Oh, I've been to the Black Door.

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On the west side?

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I tried to get an appointment there before Christmas and it was all booked. Well, my barber, her name was Darth Fader. Oh, she gave like killer fades. Yeah, and then, so I followed her on Instagram, because she specialized in mullets. And then I saw she changed her username recently to Lord of the Trims. What is that even a play on? Lord of the Flies? Wenn du morgens wach wach wach wach wach wach

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Und ja, es ist großartig. Es ist mit Muscheln gemacht. Alle hier sprechen über Muscheln. Und funktionelle Muscheln. Und ich weiß nicht wirklich die Details, aber ich weiß, dass Mudwater sie hat und es funktioniert. Du weißt, hier ist das Problem. Wir schauen nicht, wie die Wissenschaft funktioniert. Wir sind nur Leute, die gut Wissenschaft verstehen. Wir sind hochwertig.

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And the guy was like, the guy told me he's like, we have people that will line up like before 7 a.m. every day. And he's like some people. He's like, I've noticed people that are like trying to be like more dignified and not look like crackheads are they sit in their cars until like 706. Und dann kommen sie und gehen rein und sagen, wie geht's?

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Let's get back into the episode. You guys ever been flashed?

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Kind of near the black door. We were leaving a Japanese restaurant when I was a kid. Yeah. And a guy was walking towards us in a trench coat. And one of us was jokingly like, that looks like a flasher. And then he flashed my sister and Liv Clifford. And we were like, oh. And I thought it was really funny. Because he opened it up and was like, wah! He did like the movie.

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Ja, es war wie ein Gesicht, den Michael Scott gemacht hat. Und dann dachten sie nicht, dass es lustig war. Was ich jetzt verstehe, warum sie es nicht lustig finden. Ich verstehe nicht das Gewicht davon im Moment. Aber wie schwer war es? Wie schwer war es? Ounzen. Wie schwer ist ein Mensch? Google, wie schwer ist ein menschlicher Penis?

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I want to make sure what I've got is normal. Okay. 70 to 100 grams. Okay. What was the time you measured your penis, really? High school? Yeah. I used to put it next to my iPhone and then Google how big an iPhone was. I think everyone got into that. How big is an iPhone 4? My penis used to be the size of an iPhone.

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Yeah. Until like the 4S. I think the 4S was the last time it was like the exact one. I bought the SE just so I could feel like a man again. Yeah. Mine is the size of an iPod shuffle. Mine is the size of an ant. I remember I grabbed my stepmom's iPod shuffle one time and I clicked play and it was like all of the lights. What is she using this for?

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I honestly would love the iPod shuffle for the gym.

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Yeah, they should bring it back.

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Ich fühle mich, als würde ich auf meinem Handy enttäuscht werden.

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Bei iPod-Shuffle kannst du nicht mal Playlists machen. Ja, du kannst sie auf deinem Laptop machen.

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Ja, du kannst genau kontrollieren, was auf dem Laptop steht.

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Ja, ja, ja. Das sollte nur dein Workout-Song sein, den du auf Shuffle machst. Ich mag es nicht, Musik auf Shuffle zu machen. Ich mache hyper-spezifische Playlists. Ich weiß. Ich schaffele es in meinen Beinen.

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In Momenten, in denen du nicht enttäuscht werden willst, könnte es gut sein.

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Lauren, what are you going to do while Willie and I are in the Bahamas?

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This weekend?

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Bahama Mama.

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I actually might... Wait, what's today? It's Thursday. Well, tonight I'm going to Companion with my friend Addy. It's the best. I'm so excited for dinner.

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Tell them Rusty sent you. I will. Tell them... Do they know you?

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Ich weiß nicht, ob sie meinen Namen kennen. Der Pizza-Mann kennt meinen Namen. Ich weiß nicht, ob die Anwohner das tun, aber sie wissen, dass ich gekommen bin.

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Der Pizza-Mann ist der Mastermind. Ich war auf der Gasstation. Er machte Pizza auf der Gasstation? Nein, er füllte sein Auto auf. And he said, yo! And I turned around and I was like, oh, what's up, man? And he was like, I made your pizza. I was like, I know, it was awesome. He was like, you didn't finish it. And I was like, yeah, it was better the next day. And then I was like, I'll see you soon.

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Er sagt, ich habe dich gesehen, dass du es auswählen musstest, damit du nicht so bescheiden siehst.

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That was a good line. They said thank you. I think they are just really good with recognizing people that have been there before. Or we used an account to order. Because they were like, great to see you again.

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Ich habe es für den Pick-Up bestellt, aber du hast es online bestellt. Oh, ich dachte, es wäre wie eine alte Timie, aber ich dachte, lass es auf meinem Account. Lass es auf meinem Account. Mein Vater hatte ein Account bei einem... Was heißt das? Hardware-Store. Und ich musste einfach nur Kaffee aufnehmen.

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Ja, das ist gut. Weil die Receipts nicht geteilt werden.

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Gib mir ein Receipt. Sollen wir heute die Party starten? Im Lounge? No, I'm not drinking at 10.30 am. We're going to be on a cruise for the next three days.

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I would get a drink with you.

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Thank you, Lauren. Alright, Will, you're out. Lauren, you're in. Let's go. Change clothes.

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Oh, another thing I might do this weekend. I'm going to go to the Huntington Botanic Library. They're like gardens in Pasadena that I've been wanting to go to for a while.

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Oder vielleicht empfiehlst du es auch. Ich glaube, ich habe es. Ja, ja, ja. Sollten wir eine Disposable Kamera auf unsere Reise bringen? Ich meine, ich weiß nicht, wie wir eine bekommen werden. CVS. CVS.

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Wir müssen direkt zum Flughafen kommen.

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Du solltest es wirklich machen.

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Wir haben 45 Minuten. Ja, aber wir wollen... Wir wollen definitiv... Was?

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I don't know, she made a face at me that it was time to road map.

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I don't know.

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Like a child of divorce right now. I feel more like a child of divorce.

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No, I don't know. Yeah, sure.

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i got a story for you guys yes uh i was on the phone with delta okay trying to i was trying to i i was trying to book my flights over the phone why felt cool actually i have access to this number and i never use it and so i just like called the i called the number it's like hi they're like Hi, what do you want to do?

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I was like, I want to do, because it was like a complicated multi-city flight and I was trying to like merge Flan and I's itineraries and miles and use companion certificate and upgrades, whatever. I couldn't figure out how to do it. And we got through the whole process. And then he was like, okay, that'll be 200,000 miles. And I was like, oh, I don't, I don't have that many in my account.

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Can I pay with cash? And apparently like we'd, we'd gone through the whole thing under the like miles tab. And he was like. Ja, okay, lasst uns anfangen. Ich sagte, weißt du was, ich fühle mich schlecht, ich mache es einfach online. Und so haben wir es online gemacht.

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Und ich habe zwei meiner Upgrade-Zertifikate, ich bekomme nur eine Handvoll im Jahr, ich habe zwei meiner Upgrade-Zertifikate, also total vier. Und es scheint, dass es eine seltsame Pergatorie zwischen Delta One und Comfort Plus gibt auf diesem Flugzeug, was nicht normal ist. Premium Select. Premium Select. Ist es chill? Because we're doing that.

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And I'm hoping it's going to be like a fucking epic killer time. This is riveting. I'm trying to keep this alive.

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I was just seeing how long I could talk about airplanes before you guys would say something.

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Yeah, I was like, roadmap.

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I feel like Lauren's mad at me that I didn't want to do the roadmap. I'm not mad. You got silent.

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No, I just know you guys and how long you talk and I'm just trying to be on our schedule.

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Kinda. Can't argue with that. If we start at like the minute 45 and then we go to like an hour 30, that's like pretty common. It doesn't matter, just...

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I don't think they even sell weed.

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Do you ever get worried that you can accidentally commit a felony and then go to jail for the rest of your life? No, do you? Sometimes I'll watch the full interrogations. I think I've told you guys this. Whenever I'm really stressed out in life, Lauren, whenever I'm really stressed out in life, I will watch full interrogations of someone who committed a murder or something. Okay.

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I don't even think they sell units of weed that I could consume in one day there. Yeah, I mean, it would be a crazy day. You could probably do it.

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Because it made me feel like... Okay, it's not... Could be worse. Like, I remember my senior year at Rollins, I found out... I think I told you this. We found out at brunch, like, I probably wasn't going to graduate. We were toasting to... I got caught cheating, whatever. Yeah. Got out of it. Ended up getting an 85 on the assignment. But...

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I went home and I curled up in my bed in my brunch clothes, like fully dressed and got my, put my laptop on its side and watched a full interrogation of that UVA lacrosse player who killed his girlfriend. You ever heard that story?

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Yeah. Was that on the JCS criminal psychology channel? I don't know.

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But basically.

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Super, super interesting.

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Okay. Okay. punch through her bedroom door, went in and was like shaking her and like hitting, like completely like beating her up, whatever.

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This was Yardley Love?

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Yardley Love, yes, Yardley. That's a name of a person? Yeah, they all had like super preppy, crazy names. What's his name again? It was like Branford something. It was like something ridiculous.

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I couldn't believe it was open that early. It's crazy. So there's my story, I guess. How crazy how early the Weed Shop is. Early opening.

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I don't know.

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Google like Yardley Love murderer. George Hughley. So George Hughley murdered Yardley Love. So awful. And so they bring him in. They go to his house. And they're like, hey, we're with the, you know, uh,

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charlottesville police department like we gotta ask you some questions and they were like fully expecting like this is this is this like smart ish wealthy kid he'll probably have the presence of mind to be like no i would like to have a lawyer or whatever and they were like he just put his flip flops on didn't say anything put his flip flops on walked in and sat shotgun in the police officers car and they were like

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Okay, I don't think he knows. They were like, okay, I don't think he knows the severity of this situation. They go down, they interrogate him for like an hour. They basically get him to admit that he was like shaking her to try and get her to calm down, which doesn't make any sense. And yeah, he killed her. And so he's in jail for, I think, probably the rest of his life. Jesus Christ.

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Oh, but sorry. So I threw on that interrogation to make myself feel better like, My life might be in shambles right now, but I'm not... At least you didn't murder your girlfriend. I did not murder my girlfriend. I call my girlfriend back, are you alive? Jesus, that's awful.

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So yeah, sometimes watching those makes me... But whenever I watch them, I'm like, I need to be really careful that I don't murder anyone. And then I'll be like, wait, What? I've never once come close to that.

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You guys should check out this channel. It's really, really interesting. I've watched all of these.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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This is what I watched. They're actually insane. This is the Parkland. This girl killed her parents.

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Do you ever hear those kids that they like killed their friend and it's three of them and they're in like an interrogation room like that waiting and like obviously there's cameras.

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Oh, they're talking about it?

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They're talking about like getting their story straight. And it was like, dude, are you fucking... And then they come in and the woman like breaks it down for them and is like, hey... Wie wenn du alle verletzt wirst. Wie wenn du alle verletzt wirst. Und die Frau war so dumm, dass sie nicht bemerkt hat, dass es eine Entschuldigung sein wird.

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I couldn't believe how early it opened. I had a dream last night that we were at the airport. I mean, you'd think like 10 a.m. for that. All right, sorry. No, I've been having, speaking of weed, I think it's really thrown my dreams in a blender. Because I stop, start, stop, start. It's not like I'm every night. So if I have two nights in a row where I take an edible and then take one night off,

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Sie fragte den Polizisten, wie lange sie in der Gefängnis sein werden. Sie war so, ich weiß nicht, du wirst in die Gefängnis. Jesus. Ich schaue nichts wie das. Das ist mir ein bisschen schockierend. Ich glaube, es wäre direkt auf deinem Alley. I do not like that shit. I don't like horror movies. I don't like true crime shit.

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I've gone through heavy phases of true crime.

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You gotta watch that Zodiac documentary. Maybe. On Netflix. I don't know if I want it. Are we sitting next to each other? Right now?

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On the plane.

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I don't know. What seat are you? 22C?

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No. Shit.

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Should we ask how to move? Is that you just asking if I got upgraded? No. 22C? That's nothing. That's like Geiger Plus or something.

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I'm not worried about it, man. It doesn't occupy as much space in my brain as it does in yours. I know. I think there is... I'm not joking. I think there's something wrong with the way my brain is wired, where that's truly something I care about. Yeah. We were... Als ich zurückgeflogen bin, von wo wir letzte Woche waren, wurde ich verbessert und es war wie Glorie, wie ein Wachstum.

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Mein Leben war in Schambels, ich war der Beste, der ich je gewesen bin. Und alles war einfach okay. Es war so, ich kann es hier mitnehmen. Hier bin ich sicher und gut.

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Die Leute werden für dich in den Kommentaren für das kommen. Warum?

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Es ist einfach lustig. Ich darf es lieben. Nein, du darfst es lieben. Du darfst es lieben.

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Es ist einfach lustig.

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Ich denke, es ist besser, als es anzunehmen. Ich sage, schulde mich. Schulde mich, das ist etwas, ich mag Flugzeuge und wir fliegen genug, dass es mich glücklich macht, wenn es ein bisschen komfortabler ist. Und ich habe das erste Mal, dass ich die Mahlzeit verabschiedet habe. Schulde mich. Weil ich sah, als ob ich ein Typ war, der das immer macht. Ich war so, was würdest du essen? Nichts.

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What's the logic there? It looks like you've been here all the time because you're not hungry? Because someone who does this infrequently would want to get the whole experience. To me it's nothing. I don't want your microwaved pot roast. I like their short rib. Their short rib is gas with the mashed potatoes. All right, Willie, I got a question for you. Your balls stink? Yeah, my balls reek.

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You're a guy. No, actually they don't. Actually they don't anymore because I got Mando.

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I got this whole body deodorant. I got the cream. I also got the wipes. And sometimes I double up just to make sure. You're a mad man. Well, the thing is, when I'm out in the sun and I sweat, they reek again. It's like just when they stop reeking, then I go sweat and they reek again. That's why I love Mando. It's whole body deodorant, alright?

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Pits, balls, thigh folds, belly buttons, butt cracks, feet, taint, butt crack, taint, feet, butt, balls, alright? Ass. Ass, yes, thank you. I think that's everything. It's created by a doctor who saw firsthand how normal BO was being misdiagnosed and mistreated and it is clinically proven to block odor all day and control odor for up to 72 hours.

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Mando's Starter Pack is perfect for new customers.

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It comes with a solid stick deodorant, cream tube deodorant, two free products of your choice like mini body wash and deodorant wipes and... Vielen Dank.

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Chubbies. I love them. I love them. I've been talking about these lined running shorts. They have been saving my crotch. Alright, man. Okay, I was chafing. You're gonads. There's a woman in the room. I had chafing problems earlier and now I don't because I've run with the chubby lined running shorts. We'll talk about the phone pocket. Willie was sitting there Yeah, I didn't know.

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I saw the phone pocket on his thing. I go, you slide your phone in there when you run? It blew his mind. He had never, guy had never seen it before. I thought it was a style pouch. I didn't realize it was functional. Guys, Father's Day isn't about socks. It's not about ties. It's all about power moves.

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It's about you and your mini walking into summer in perfectly matched outfits that say, yes, we are related. Yes, we are a unit. And yes, we both look incredible. Die Dad & Lad-Kollektion von Chubbies. Es ist nicht nur süß, es ist auch Performance-Familie-Wear. Diese Bad Boys werden von Willy, wie viel? 42 Prozent. 27 Prozent. Boost Dad Jokes bei 42 Prozent. Oh.

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One of those three nights, the dream is going to be the craziest thing in the world. But all my dreams have been, they're not scary. They're all like aviation related, which is kind of odd. I think it's just because we're like, I've been booking, I've just booked a flight last weekend and then we're flying today. And so it's like a whole thing.

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Support our show and tell them we sent you. Don't blend in with the crowd. Stand out with Chubbies. Let's get back into the episode. Should we roadmap it up? Sure. Now I'm ready. Cool. Alright, we got a beautiful episode for you guys today. We are going to hear... I had a little skin on my nose.

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We are going to hear your pitches followed by our pitches. Then we are going to bring back... Say it with me. Am I the asshole?

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Followed by everyone's favorite segment. Teach me something. And then we are going to do This Sky Rocks. This guy rocks, this guy rocks today. Hey, hey, I said this guy rocks and he rocks so hard. He rocks in your house and he rocks in your yard. There's rocks in my yard. And then we're going to do things your dad loves to say.

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followed by animals that don't exist, and then we'll wrap up with Rusty's song of the day. We got a hell of a lot of you Playmates in there, so go subscribe on Spotify. It just hit 8 million. Can you imagine if... Could you get paid for that? You can, but it's all... How would you monetize that? It's like Iraqi money, so it's really hard to translate to US dollars. I don't know.

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You think Lauren's the imposter?

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Self-report. What? What are you so upset about?

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She's self-reporting.

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She's sussy. Did you vent earlier? Be honest.

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I don't know what you're talking about.

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Did you vent earlier?

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No. You've already done this to me before.

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done what like tried to get me with these weird alright wait but willy and i are both clearly crewmates we've both been doing tasks i don't care i saw you vent i actually don't care at all why are you defensive because it's stupid sus he's deflecting we were doing tasks willy and i i saw him willy and i are both clearly crewmates yeah that means you're sussy baka amogus

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But yeah, I was in a private jet in one of the dreams and it had 60 foot ceilings. It was odd. Maybe like a 737 Max. Well, it felt like the inside of the Titanic. It wasn't round. I don't think I ever went. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Did you know?

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I don't know. What's wrong? Nothing. What are we doing wrong? Nothing. I'm just tired and I'm like really out of it right now.

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What time did you go to bed?

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I actually had a decent time. I went to bed at like 10.

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Why did you have to look at the clock?

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I don't know.

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You were doing math to find a normal time to go to bed. I went to bed around 10.30 or so. I was watching that new Jon Hamm show again. Was ist das? Nein, es heißt so... Deine Freunde und Nachbarn oder so. Weißt du, er hat eine Plage auf Feuer gesetzt? Ja, ich habe Angus erzählt, als ich das Show gesehen habe, und er hat gesagt, ich würde nie etwas mit Jon Hamm nach dem, was er gemacht hat.

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Oh, wirklich? Er war definitiv ein schrecklicher Typ, aber... Ich habe das noch nie gehört. Er hat eine Plage auf Feuer gesetzt mit einem Hammer und hat ihn um die Wohnung gedrückt. Und dann hat er... Ich denke, sie haben einen Typen auf Feuer gesetzt. Letztes Jahr. When he was in college. I'm obviously not defending Jon Hamm. I think fraternities were much crazier back then, from what I've heard.

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Yeah, I don't think that's a good defense at all. Not the fire thing, but I'm saying like... Or the nuts thing. We've all grabbed a guy by his nuts and dragged him around the room.

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I think fraternities are horrible and I think that was a result of...

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I was in a fraternity that didn't have anything bad, but I had buddies. That's not what I heard. What did you? I'm just kidding. No, we didn't do anything bad, but I had buddies that were in one. And one of my good friends was there, was the Pledge Master at the time. I remember like... him telling me this stuff and just being like, I wouldn't be buddies with you after that. It's really perverse.

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It's like such a... It's like a cycle of abuse. It's like... Someone was a fucked up person and now people have been fucked up for years and years and years. In the 1800s. The first guy did it to the second guy. The second guy has to do it to the third guy. That's how kids die. Every year it gets a little bit worse. It's kind of a fascinating look at human psychology, honestly.

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I feel really glad that Ja. Yeah, I guess I just think back to when I was a freshman in college and I was so malleable and just wanted to fit in and be cool.

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If I had gone to the wrong school and joined the wrong fraternity and that kind of behavior was normalized, I think I would have been sucked into it. So I feel great.

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I will say, I think that some of it is... It can be done in a funny and semi-productive way. Maybe. Like, I think there... I think there is... Some of it is very silly. Yeah, I guess I'm not speaking for myself. You would actually like some of the tasks, because it was like... Ours was more like fun and silly. Leave me alone or I will zap you with my intergalactic space modulator.

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One of my favorite ones that I heard, I wasn't part of this, was completely dark room, thousand piece puzzle, one lighter. That's hysterical. That's awful.

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That's not awful. No, that just sounds like hell. Yeah.

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I heard it was not very fun.

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I heard it was really funny for the first 45 minutes and then all parties involved.

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How long was he in there?

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I heard that it took about 20 18 and 19 year olds about 14 hours. And I heard that people's thumbs were getting sore from holding the lighter. And I heard that you could earn another lighter and make it a little bit, maybe a grill lighter if you did something funny. Got it. I heard that. Online, you read it. Online, I read it.

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Alright, let's get into pitches.

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Playdate. Playdate, Episode 111. Dude, if we Uber to the airport right after this, we'll get there kind of early. We could like get breakfast. You wanna go to the lounge? Come on, Papi. I can come? Yeah, man. Lucas can't come, though. I only got two guest passes left. Well, I think he's meetings there anyway, so we'll get there before him. Playdate 111, Isaiah Thomas. Leave that in.

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We're fucked. I think if there's an iceberg in the Bahamas, we are not just the ones that are fucked.

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Alright, pitches.

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First pitch is from Sam Kerr. Sam says, Hey Lauren and the modern day poets, what is the worst part of a cozy rainy day spent at home?

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Entschuldige, Lauren, was ist das Schlimmste?

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Was ist das Schlimmste an einem schmutzigen, regnenden Tag zu Hause?

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Ich liebe schmutzige, regnende Tage zu Hause. Also ich würde sagen, wenn du... Spielen Sie hot coffee all over your crouching blanket.

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He says they don't come often enough.

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Yes. Kill the lights and touch my body When that song came out... But then I also... Sorry.

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That could actually be good for our planet. Good sign, yeah.

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No, no, please.

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When that song came out, I went to visit my sister at college. And all of her cool friends were playing Gucci Flip Flops by Bad Baby.

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The earth is healing. We show up to NASA, there's like penguins, we're like, yes. The earth is healing. We hit an iceberg, we're like, wow. All our hard work is paying off.

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Gucci Flip Flops.

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And I didn't realize they were listening to it ironically. And so I brought it back to high school. And I go, all the cool college kids were listening to this.

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Have you seen the music video for that?

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No? Is it lit? We can't watch it now. It'll get copyrighted. We'll watch it later. No, there's just a clip of it.

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I'll just look it up on images.

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No, I'll just send it to you. It's gonna be a prank. It's not a prank. It's gonna be a prank.

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Thank you, Sam. That is lovely. Also with rainstorms, when it rains, we're at work. Why can't it rain...

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Or no, no, no, wait, wait, I take that back. What's the question? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, it's not a question. It's just me saying that I wish it would rain in my room. I wish it would rain on the weekends. Okay. Next pitch is from Ahmad Ghaffar. Hi, Ahmad. Ahmad says, hey, military, industrial and complex.

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Komplex. Militär. Industriell. Ja. Das funktioniert. Win-win-win.

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Win-win-win.

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Erstmal Wheeler, erstmals Dealer hier. Okay, also er hat ein paar gesendet. Ich werde nur einen wählen. Eigentlich werde ich zwei von diesen lesen, weil sie sehr kurz sind. Warte, warte, schreibe nur einen. Okay, okay. Also es ist ein Gagpen, der nicht schreibt. Wait, what? I'm sorry.

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I'm sure if you read it. It's a gag pen that doesn't write.

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Gag pen that doesn't write used and derivative.

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Okay, that was confusing.

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Yeah, I don't know what the used part is. The mark would just grab, maybe, I don't know.

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Mother Earth is smiling. I can see it.

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Okay, yeah.

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The Mark would just... I'm just gonna... The Mark would just grab another pen.

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When a... Wait, just read it. When an immovable object meets an unstoppable force. A guy who's bad at typing versus Lawrence reading.

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I'm just gonna read exactly what it says. Gag pen that doesn't write. Used and derivative. The Mark would just grab another pen. Here's the evolution. Teflon paper. We make...

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Oh, he's saying that the gag pen that doesn't write has been used and it's derivative. Got it, got it, got it.

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Okay, so his idea is we make paper that nothing sticks to, not even ink. We sell notebooks, so even if they change pages, they still can't write. Pair that with a gag pen, so they can't write, even if they change books, and you've got a way to give someone a breakdown.

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I like that. I like that. Good clean fun. I just slacked you the music video for Gucci flip-ups. Okay.

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My hydro flask works. They're like, what? No, get off.

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Okay, so... So, for the... Pause it real quick. For the viewers at home, this is directly from Will's old TikTok. So, buckle up. We're getting pranked. It's the music video.

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The ship is going down right now. I don't know if this is a dream or just something I was thinking about while laying in bed last night. I think it was just something I was thinking about. I was thinking about what happens if we hit an iceberg. I don't know why. It's just

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Ich möchte dir eine Frage stellen. Du... Also, ihr wart da. Ja. Und du hast gesagt, was zu diesen Leuten, um sie so zu machen.

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Wir haben immer Musikvideos gemacht. Das war eine sehr normale Erkennung. Das ist süß.

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Die YouTube, die vollgenauen Videos auf YouTube sind viel lustiger.

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Oder viel... Ich weiß nicht. Du hast vollgenaue Videos gemacht? Oh, ja.

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Es ist eigentlich ein voller Gucci-Flipflop. Oh Gott.

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21. Wo ist das?

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Mein Haus in Mannheim. Oh. Das war bevor meine Eltern eingestiegen sind, aber sie haben es einfach gebaut. Also war es einfach so, dass ich meine Freunde mitgebracht habe.

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Das ist so lustig. Okay, pitch mich, Willy. Ich habe 1000 Likes. Ja, TikTok war großartig damals. Okay, pitchen Sie ist mein nächster Schritt. Wie Ron in Sorcerer's Stone. Hitching you is my next move. Uber setting, where he can tell you he's not mad at you, he's just not gonna talk.

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Sometimes when they don't talk, I think, today I got in an Uber here, and I was like, hi, sorry I was late, I was just running behind. And he just stared at me. And I was like, alright, for Hunter? Because my Uber setting is Hunter Biden, because I think I'm cool or funny or something. And he didn't say anything. You're talking to Red Foreman right now. Yeah, I get it. If anyone gets it, I get it.

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I think I did it because of you. And then he didn't say anything. And I was like, this guy fucking hates me.

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Ist es möglich, dass manchmal Englisch nicht das erste Sprachwort ist und sie wissen, dass sie wissen, dass sie wissen, dass sie wissen, dass es auch eine Möglichkeit ist. Vielleicht ist das Teil des Setting. Ja. Oder er war einfach so. Where's the laptop, Hunter? Oh yeah, maybe he was a Biden voter. Or a Biden hater. All my homies love Hunter Biden. He's the only guy I would vote for.

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Our cruise ship that we're about to go on.

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It's such a perverse thought. I've never been on a cruise ship.

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I'll drink to that, brother.

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Alright, I'll get a drink with you at the airport lounge if you vote in the next election. Deal?

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Yeah. Can I pick whoever I want?

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Yeah, but I get to pick any drink I want.

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I don't care who you vote for. But I get... I thought you were going to say my drink. Okay, everyone comment who I should vote for in the next election. I'm going to go Margarita. Okay. Wait, I think... I'm too malleable. Okay. My pitch is...

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I feel like every time I'm on a plane, I think in the back of my mind at one point, I'm like, I don't know. Anytime there's the smallest bump in turbulence, this whole fucking thing's going down.

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Just give me a fucking second. My pitch is a way to make voting more fun for everyone. Okay. Was ist das Schlimmste am Votieren? Du musst es machen. Du musst es machen und du denkst dir, ob mein Votieren überhaupt zählt. Es ist ziemlich lustig. Wenn du es je gemacht hast, ist es eigentlich lustig. Wenn die Kiosk öffnet, fragt es Leute wie mich, die nichts über Politik wissen.

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Es gibt dir ein Survey. Es fragt dich Fragen, wie du fühlst über wichtige Themen. Und dann wird es dich mit dem besten Kandidaten vergleichen. Yeah, I'm sure that no one would get their hands in there and try to skew that one way or another. I'm sure that would be really objective. Do you like Donut Mondays? You're like, I do, thank you.

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There's the Survivor 50.

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It's like a season where the fans decide everything that happens. Not everything, but like They put up all these polls basically and the result of these online polls is going to determine things about the season.

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Like challenges and stuff?

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Like whether there's idols or not or how many people or I don't know, whatever.

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But like the idols, like the way the questions are framed is so clear what they want.

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Would you like a cool idol?

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Yeah, would you like idols which make the game super interesting and way more fun? Or would you like no idols which is super lame for bad guys?

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It's like, what? Alright, should we do Am I the Asshole, Lauren? Yeah, let's do it. Okay. Is this Playmates Submitted?

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Yes, it is. Nice. Playmates Submitted. Grammy nominated.

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Okay, this is Lily. Okay.

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Am I the asshole? So, during college I hung out with this guy one time. It didn't go great, so I told him afterward and figured that was it, right? Wrong. About a month goes by, no contact, nothing. Then one late night, one of my roommates knocks on my bedroom door and says, someone's here for you. Okay. and that he'd like another chance.

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But when the thing hit an iceberg in my... I was envisioning what would happen. It's while we're filming trying every drink at Margaritaville the cruise with like lav mics on. And I just could picture and be like, Lucas, keep fucking rolling. This is journalism now.

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I thank them, awkwardly close the door, don't text or call the guy, break the rose in half and throw it away. A few weeks later... That's dramatic. I know. A few weeks later, I run into him at a... It's gonna be a three-letter word. No, I had to find a new picture. Party? A few weeks later, I run into him at a party. I try to avoid him.

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Sorry, sorry.

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I try to avoid him, but he finds me and says, well, did you at least like the music? I say, no, I didn't. I thought it was really weird and made me uncomfortable. He looks genuinely shocked. I just tell him, I don't know what you want me to say to you, and I walk away. So, am I the asshole?

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That's a good question.

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I don't think you're the asshole.

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There's a lot of factors here. I think that he maybe put you in an uncomfortable position, because it sounds like the first one didn't go very well, and it also sounds like you don't know each other very well. Ja, aber ich denke auch, dass das nicht, ich glaube nicht, dass er, ich glaube nicht, dass er viel übersteht. Ich glaube, es ist gut, dass er seinen Schuss so geschossen hat.

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Ja, ich fühle mich, als ob wir eine Schlüssel verpasst haben. Wenn du die Räume in der Hälfte verpasst hast, fühle ich mich, als ob wir eine Schlüsselverpasst haben. Was ist falsch? Wie hat sie gesagt, warum der erste Hangout schlecht ging?

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No, she just said... No, she didn't say why.

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If you just went like regular poorly, I think maybe you could have been more just like, oh yeah, it was funny, I'm just not interested, sorry. Rather than being like, I don't know. That's interesting. I also, this is inherently, we're inherently biased because they're coming from Playmates. So it's like, I want to find a way to be like, you are 100% in the right.

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But I think we need to be objective. And I think that... Es ist völlig in Ordnung, dass du gesagt hast, dass es dich unangenehm gemacht hat. Er war, um klar zu sein, war er nicht Teil der kleinen Sex-Mund-Entourage?

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Nein, nein, nein.

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Er hat sie gesendet. Er hat sie gesendet.

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Interessant.

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Was ich glaube, ist auch ein bisschen halbartig. Yeah, it's a little strange.

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I feel like she's overreacting here. Yeah. And by saying, I don't know what you want me to say to you.

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Yeah, but I think a little drama is fun.

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Yeah, true. I don't know.

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She's making it more interesting. I would say you're not the asshole, but I also would say he's not necessarily the asshole. No, I think maybe you were a little too harsh when you went up to him.

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I think she's a little bit of an asshole.

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Oh, man. Ich weiß nicht, ich bin einfach ehrlich. Wenn sie überhaupt ein Arschloch sind, dann stoppen sie das Hören.

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Wir lieben dich immer noch. Ich bin manchmal ein Arschloch. Manchmal? Ja. Ich habe meine Arschloch.

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Du denkst, wir sind immer Arschloch?

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It's the string quartet going down at the ship. You keep that fucking camera rolling.

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Ja. Wirklich? Sicher. Ich denke, wir sind immer Arschloch. Wann haben wir jemals ein Arschloch gewesen? Die einzigen Leute, die nicht Arschloch sind, wie Will Peters, können kein Arschloch sein.

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Are you kidding me? He came in our office pissed on my desk.

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He's like the sweetest, every time I have a conversation, this is one of our co-workers, every time I have a conversation with him, I'm like, how can someone be that nice?

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It's because on the side he's a huge dick to me and Will. It's because he gets it all out through those neo-nazi Reddit forums he's in.

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Right. Liz, no, I still love you.

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I think you're right. We had sort of playmate colored glasses there for a second.

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Oh, welche Farbe?

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Hautfarbe.

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Hautfarbe.

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Okay, na gut.

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Don't fucking mock me. Mock me. Okay, well, thank you.

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Should we do teach me something? Teach me something. All right. Snails can sleep for three months. That's fucking crazy. What's up with you? Or three years or something. Lately you've been really into reptile-esque. Three years. Snails can sleep for three years. If they get bored.

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Not that we're gonna die with it, but we're getting on the... Could you imagine we post the video just with the title, trying every drink on the Margaritaville cruise, and then it's just halfway through, the ship sinks.

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If they get bored, how do they know there's not someone cool out there?

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No, if it's like the winter and they want to like... A three year winter?

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I guess. Look how the snails have been sleeping for three years. I don't know. That's crazy. I feel like I've been busy lately and I haven't been looking up as much stuff proactively on Wikipedia. Oh yeah. That's fucking Bananaland. Alright. We've all heard the word Nimrod. Bananaland, like banana slug. Yes. We've all heard the word Nimrod, right? Green Day album. We've all called each other that?

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Yeah. What does it mean? It means, it's sort of a, well, it's a play on the name of a guy, Nimble Rodriguez, who was a total klutz.

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Nimble Rodriguez was a klutz? His parents, like, really missed the mark. So, Nimrod is, like, someone that's, like, dumb, like, whatever. Yeah.

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Die einzige Grund, warum wir das denken, ist, weil wir alle, oder die Leute in der Vergangenheit, einen Witz verpasst haben, der sarkastisch sein sollte, und sie dachten, Nimrod sei eine echte Worte.

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Also hat Bugs Bunny die Worte Nimrod ausgeschlossen, um ein Synonym für Idiot, weil niemand den Witz bekommen hat, wo er sarkastisch Elmer Fudd mit dem biblischen Figur Nimrod, der ein mächtiger Hüter war, vergleichen konnte. And so Nimrod doesn't mean that inherently, but I don't think any of us got the reference. And so we thought Nimrod just meant like you're a dumbass. Interesting.

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He's a mighty hunter? Lauren, google Nimrod Bible.

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It's like, duh, on the first day. Yeah, Nimrod.

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His parents were Kush. That's fire. Son of Kush and Noah. King in the land of Shiner. That guy sounds badass. He was. Alright, should we do This guy rocks. This guy rocks. This guy rocks today. Hey, hey, I slacked it to Brian. I did too. Slack it to Brian and Lauren. In a group chat. I mean, it's fine for this. This is a body cam footage.

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I had a thought. I had that same thought on the alligator hunting shoot and the barrel rolling a plane shoot, where I was like... The funniest thing you could do, if this went wrong, the funniest thing you could do would be upload it with a completely normal title.

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Oh, this is bro thought he was smooth.

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This is a body cam footage of a cop detaining a guy in a hotel room and he tries to get away. I want you to pay close attention to the noise that the suspect makes and then the subsequent cop makes. Okay.

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Don't tense up, man.

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Don't tense up, man.

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Don't tense up, man. 12 laughing at your ass. That's funny.

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Which one, Will? This one? What's the other thing?

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Das war der, den ich dir gesendet habe, aber dann habe ich einen lustigeren gefunden.

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Oh Gott. Oh mein Gott. Was? Du siehst aus wie ein Walrus.

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Er hat sich selbst verletzt.

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Das ist ein Typ, der ein Tattoo bekommt.

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I don't feel comfortable tattooing you, man. He's pissing all over the floor.

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I mean, they probably just saved that guy a lifetime of pain because he's gotta be so hammered he's peeing, right? Yeah, I guess. Or is he really nervous about this lion tattoo? I guess. The girl with the lion tattoo. Let's look at the other one I sent.

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Oh, this is so sad. Poor guy. I came here to see you guys. You said I could come with you.

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Ich denke, das ist der Weg, der die Reflexion aus dem Bus ist, aber er sieht so stark aus.

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Wer ist er?

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Was will er tun?

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Ich weiß nicht, er will auf einen Van fahren.

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With exactly like the intended title and thumbnail.

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Was ist das? Sollten wir... Dinge, die dein Vater liebt, sagen? Was? Was habe ich gesagt? Nein, nein, nein, wir... Das Kommentar. Lauren sagte, was bedeutet das? Ich sagte, ich weiß es nicht. Oh. Sollen wir Tiere machen, die nicht existieren, oder Dinge, die dein Vater liebt, sagen, Lauren? Vater.

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Just what we game planned, like I hunted an alligator to prove I'm tough. And then I get eaten by a crocodile. If I put this on the record, if I ever die filming an unscripted YouTube video, upload that shit. Upload it and make it. Oh, dude, have you heard of, look up like, Blue Hole Bahamas. Was? There's this lagoon. Oh. Dean's Blue Hole. Look up Dean's Blue Hole.

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Dad. Dad. Also, I'm sorry for being a bitch today.

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You're not being a bitch at all.

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You're not being a bitch. My stomach hurts. It's okay.

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My stomach hurts. That's why I was 10 minutes late. I had to have a huge grumpy at home. I was late because I was thinking about you having a grumpy.

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My stomach was in shambles when I woke up this morning. What did you eat last night? An ice cream sandwich. I think that's why. But normally my body reacts fine to dairy. I had salt and straw a few nights ago.

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Was your ice cream maxing?

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I stay ice cream maxing. I'm normally fine, but I had crazy cramps. Anyway, as we were saying.

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These are things your dad loves to say. I got nowhere to be and all day to get there. Now we're cooking with gas. I'm now realizing these are mostly specific to my dad. So I don't know if any of your dads say this. Repeating the waitress's name three times after she tells it to him so he can remember it. I like that. Whenever my dad gets the bill for something, he goes, what did I break a window?

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Um, When I asked my dad if he had room for dessert, he would always say he had an ice cream-sized hole in his stomach. Does anyone remember where I put my gun? Wait, what? Take a dad. What, like all of our dads say it? Dads say it. When I get too drunk and lose our guns. What are my five favorite words? I don't see why not. Here we go. Is that an AI dog?

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After a bad shot, my dad always says, a lot of golf left. There we go.

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There's only one rule. There are no rules. I had to put AI dolls in there.

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I love that. It's been ingrained in my head.

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Is that an AI doll?

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Who put that in the butter? Who put that in the butter? What's the other one?

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I'm just a regular guy.

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I'm just a regular guy.

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Alright, tee it up.

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For the record, Willie's been wanting to do animals that don't exist for like a year plus and for some reason I didn't think it was a good idea and then I started writing them down and I had a fucking blast. Pretty fun, right? These are animals that don't exist. Ich mag das. Salmonella. Nice. Grand Dirt. It's sort of a Nordic take on the alligator, okay?

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Its feet are like ice skates, so it just slides around the ice and it chomps. Pukak smells just like a peacock. Pukak looks just like a peacock, but it reeks. Bray.

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It's like a seahorse, but the mouth is above air, sort of like a periscope. Like it breathes the air, but the body is swimming underneath.

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How come there's nothing that does that? I like that. Whale.

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But it goes fully under. Like something that just skims around on the surface of its head out?

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Yeah. That's fantastic. Scoople. His jaw is so low to the ground that it drags on the ground, picks up nuts, seeds, berries and gravel. Dragging on the ground nuts. Sounds like me. Hulgord. It's like a llama, but it has as many legs as a millipede. I got two more for you. What? No, no, no, Lauren. I was doing a bit with Lauren. About you. What did I do? No, it was not about you. It was about you.

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I was doing a bit with Lauren. About you. Grass Humper jumps out of the fescue, wraps his arms around you, does his worst. Sea Cucumber waits patiently for single-cell organisms to come close, but then it humps their brains out. Humping was on the mind here. Alright, Gay Raph. It's incredibly fashionable. Style that won't quit. The humping bird is funny. What's your song of the day?

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Song of the day, we're going Ventura Highway, baby. I love it and my mom always gets mad because whenever we're driving, I will say, and the song comes on, I'll go, we're on that highway. And she grew up here and she goes, we're not. We're nowhere near that. That's a different place. I love you, Mom. Your mom grew up in where? What part? The Valley. She went to Louisville High School.

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Okay, so this is like a... What? That's not it, but just look up Dean's Blue Hole, Lore. Yeah, I know it's kind of a crass name. So look at this picture. It's making me laugh. It's just like this gorgeous lagoon. Oh, down. Looks pretty chill, right? That is one of the deepest parts of the ocean in the world. Holy shit. Google how deep is Dean's Hole. Dean's Blue Hole, sorry. Cool.

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Google Louisville High School. Does that still exist? It's an all-girls Catholic school.

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Oh, Woodland House? Probably.

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Yeah, it still exists. Calabasas? Nice.

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Yeah, a little riff in the beginning of that song.

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Average class size 16. Oh, wow. My mom bleeds blue and gold. She grew up out here and then she went to USC, fight on. She was a member of the Delta Gamma sorority. I have a mug that says DG Winter Formal 1988. Is Ventura Highway the 110? I don't know.

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Ventura Highway.

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She goes, we're not on that one. We're on a different one. We're on the 405. Alright, we love you guys so much. Have a great rest of your Wednesday. Have a great rest of your week. Have a lovely weekend and then we will see you guys bright and early on Monday. Happy June. Happy Juneteenth. Happy Pride. Happy Pride. Lauren, Happy Pride. Will and I are always in your corner.

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And whatever you decide to do, that's always okay with Will and I. Thank you. It's not about who you love, it's about how hard you love them. That's true. Alright, we love you guys. Comment. Comment. Spam. Spam. Bye guys.

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What a crazy phenomenon.

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They don't know what's down there, because it's so dark. 663 feet, so maybe not the deepest part, one of the deepest parts of the ocean, but I think it's the deepest, one of the deepest blue holes. It's certainly Dean's deepest part. It's the deepest part of Dean.

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I wonder why they named it Dean.

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I think I found it. Yeah, probably. But isn't that just bizarre? They were like, shit will come up from there. It's clearly gotten fucked up by some animal. It's actually where they got the microwave. Oh, oh, oh. It's only like 100 feet wide, right? So you could swim in there.

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Isaiah Thomas? Didn't we already do him? We did the other Isaiah Thomas. Isaiah Thomas from the bad boys. Sam Den Ellen, grown up. War 11. My brother used to wear that on the ice. Who else? Kyrie Irving. Mama. Alright. How's everyone doing? Good, man. This is the earliest Playdate we've ever done.

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I don't think I would want to.

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The second you're over it, there's 660 feet of open water below you.

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That freaks me out.

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Isn't that terrifying?

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I kind of get freaked out by water when I can't touch my feet.

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Isn't it kind of embarrassing?

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I used to deny it. I used to act like I wasn't afraid of the ocean. It's really scary.

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If you don't have even a small part of your brain that's aware that this is dangerous, there's something wrong. Or you've grown up in the ocean. If I'm in open water in the ocean, the second I hit the water, it's like full panic to get back to the thing. I agree. Did I ever tell you about when John O'Connor and I thought we were going to get eaten by a great white shark? J.O.C.

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We took his boat into, there's this beach in Maine called Casino Beach. You can put your boat on a mooring and then swim into the beach. We were meeting our buddies there. It's probably like less than an 80-yard swim from where we were going. But it's still like kind of far. And it's pretty deep once because we're like borderline out of the cove.

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And we both dove in and we didn't like say anything to each other. But it was clear we were both like swimming way faster than normal. Like it just didn't feel... I can't speak for John. But the second I hit the water, it was like... This is not good. I feel like there's something right here. So we book it in. We were like, that was kind of silly. I was scared. Were you scared?

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He was like, a little bit. And then a fucking day later, that woman in Maine got bit in half by a great white shark.

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Jesus Christ. At the same location?

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No, no, no. It was like 40 minutes away. But that could be... Those things... Ja. Ja. Ja. Jake, we already told this story, but Jake Johnson's mom, he went to your high school, he went to New Trier. When he was in elementary school, his mom came into his room and was like, you're not going to school today. Did I already tell you this? You did, but can you remind me?

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So his mom came into his room and was like, you're not going to school today. And he was like, what? We're going to Koreatown. It's a field trip. I was so excited. She was like, you're not going. And he was like, I'm never going to be at school. And she was like, when are you on the field trip? He was like, we leave at 8am, get dropped off at 3. She was like, Okay, you can go.

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When he's on the field trip, a mad, like a crazed woman went into the school in her bathrobe and like shot a teacher and like some kids. She's crazy. She just like had a feeling. I think moms have intuition.

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Well, anyone's, but yeah.

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I told you my mom's one. My mom predicted a shark attack. No. My mom and dad used to be scuba enthusiasts. They were either in Mexico or Hawaii or something. They were going to explore this wreck. This is a true story. I'm not teeing you up.

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It sounds like this set up to a joke.

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So they get boated out to this wreck, whatever. My mom had forgotten her weights. You need your weights to get down to neutral buoyancy. So my dad was like, alright, I'll just pull you down.

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Oh, I think I do remember you saying that.

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And she's sort of freaking out. They go back to the top. She's like, we have to get out of here. It's not safe, whatever. So they go to this bar and my dad is fucking busting her chops being like, Being like, come on, that would have been so fun. You ruined it, whatever. Probably in a nicer tone. And these locals were like, where were you guys? And they were like, such and such wreck.

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And they were like, that is where the Hammerheads are breeding right now. It's like only this period of the year. But I feel like that's more on the tour guide. Yeah, how do they get there without someone? I think a local tour guide was like, yeah, you guys can go do it.

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Oh, I, yeah, one time, I don't know if this might be the opposite of a mom's having instinct, but one time, did I ever tell you that my mom and brother were at a, they were at like a store, or it was like a, it was like a consignment shop, is that what they call it?

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Oh mein Gott.

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Ja, mein Bruder hat sich hinter einem Schlauch gehalten oder so. Und ich glaube, sie haben ihm das Geld gegeben und er ist weg. Und es gab kein... Hat sie es gekriegt? Wow.

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Hat sie es gekriegt?

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Ja, ich glaube, sie war so, oh Gott. Oh mein Gott.

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Ich glaube, sie hat es gekriegt. Ich glaube, sie hat es gekriegt. Sie ist so verdammt Angst vor Sam.

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Ja, kannst du dir vorstellen, als Mutter, das zu hören?

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Okay, hier ist eine Frage für dich. Erinnert er sich an das? Ja, Sam macht das. Ja, sicher. Hier ist eine Frage für euch. Lauren, du bist eine Mutter. Will, du bist ein Vater. Das passiert dir. Versuchst du, ein bisschen zu weinen? Oder nimmst du einen für das Team? Es hängt davon ab, wo ich bin.

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Und ich habe mich nie wirklich über die Details gefragt.

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Ich glaube... Ich glaube, die Sache ist, wenn sie es holen, holen sie den Stuhl mit der Waffe.

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Die Antwort ist wahrscheinlich nicht, dass sie rausgehen und eine Verletzung machen. Aber ich denke, als Mutter wäre es wahrscheinlich so, dass ich es nicht kann. I would never be able to live with myself. I think also, I don't remember the exact, she would have to tell the story, but she probably wasn't completely aware.

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It's not like there's a play-by-play, like, I've got a gun! She just heard commotion.

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It's me, the bad guy, in this story. Dude, have you guys ever heard of, you know, this is another thing I was thinking about last night. Have you ever heard of Korean Fan Death? So this sounds insane. And my brother... Wait, wait, wait. That sounds like the T-Up to like a Willie D. Yeah, it sounds like a stadium disaster or something. Korean Fan Death. Korean Fan Death? Who are they a fan of?

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Cool. When I was like 8 or something. That's free for any TikTokers out there. If you're Korean, you'll get that. Sorry, continue.

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When I was like 8, my brother told me about it. My brother used to just peruse Wikipedia. I mean, I do it too. He used to just send me all the most fucked up medieval torture machines.

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He found out about Korean fan death and told me about it. And It occurred to me how bizarre it is last night. I think about it every single night.

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I adhere to... So I'll explain it. Basically, in Korea, there's like... I don't even... We'll look it up in a second. But there's like a superstition that if you're in a closed room with all the windows and doors closed, completely sealed, and you have a fan running, you'll die. And there's no science to back it. I know. Insane. But my brother... For the record, we believe...

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We have our own set of crazy beliefs.

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rusty crop-dusted an innocent man

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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eilise patton teaches us how to honey launder

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There's a lot. And they've got enough challenge to deal with.

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But you know that mask?

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Just rising him.

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Yeah, we'll put a picture of it right here. And we'll put a picture of a dog doing homework. Oh, yeah, this is Bed Bath & Beyond.

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Is he tough as nails?

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I think that's great.

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He's in the live show now.

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Lucy in his eye with dust. Lucy in his eye with dust. All right, continue, Lisa. I'm sorry.

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You show up, you have like a huge swoop over your eye. You've boils. Shut up. This podcast is so stupid.

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Please leave your message.

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Poor Anthony. Anthony knows something. Listen to him.

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Get over here. What are you talking about? Come here. Oh, you fucking asshole. Are you kidding me? I'm going to put you on speaker. Okay. What?

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I wanted... No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. Okay, so I don't know what the hell he's doing. Yeah. Okay, so we don't want any of that. How can we rectify? What the... Come on, RJ! No!

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Get your ass in here. It's not an animal sanctuary. It's a residence, and he's trying to make it into an animal sanctuary.

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What did he give you?

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I really... Holy shit. Like, whoa.

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Yes. He got pigs that have AIDS.

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He has a planned relapse. Well, it's February now. It's a Super Bowl. Yeah, exactly.

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On the sidewalk. Is this post-coital? Right after the accident, he pulls the spoke out of her. She said, just kiss me.

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Nice. I'm in it as Kyle Rittenhouse. Are you really? Yeah.

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Chill and chill.

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And we even come up with our own criminal nicknames. Cunning Crone. Luce the Noose. Luta Lucy and Robber Roz.

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Our guest detective team is expanding too. This season, we're joined by broadcasters, barristers, authors, activists, a psychologist and even an artist.

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We tried to understand these women.

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We relate to them.

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The Nuance Window!

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Join me for the second season of Lady Swindlers, where true crime meets history with a twist. Available now. Listen on the BBC app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Join me and my all-female team of detectives as we revisit the audacious crimes of women trying to make it in a world made for men. These were women who traded in crime, but who were ahead of their time. History calls them criminals. Society calls them frauds. But here on Lady Swindlers, we call them ordinary women who lived extraordinary lives. And we're still talking about them today. MUSIC

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Meet a swindler with ever so many names.

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But deep down, all she really wants is her dream home. And you don't have to just take our word for it.

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This season, we're chasing fake mediums, a lady burglar and the infamous Yorkshire witch from England and Scotland to the US and beyond. Our Lady Swindlers are truly international. She moved from Scotland to England to Italy, later to New York to New Zealand and Australia. As always, we're travelling back in time with our in-house historian, Professor Rosalind Crone.

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What is our life razor? What is our identity defining rule for our life? A razor is a rule of thumb that allows you to cut through the noise. During the course of your life, the things that you prioritize or focus on will change. You can reinvent your story at any point in your life. You can't plan entrepreneurship. The whole idea of creating a business plan is a joke. You have to go do the thing.

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Every single time I thought I was too late, it was still early. Every single time, over and over and over again, I convinced myself that I wasn't going to do something because it's too late. Oh, you can't start a YouTube channel now. Oh, you can't start on Twitter now. All these things, it's too late. Every single time, it was still early.

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And all it took was for me to actually lean into the thing and just do it consistently every single day. You are the only one that determines that it's too late and it's made up in your own mind. The reality is if you have energy for something and you are willing to put energy towards it on a consistent basis to get better at it over time, you're never too late. There's no such thing.

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You can reinvent your story at any point in your life if you decide to. But what you do need to do is put the energy into it every single day. It can't be like, oh yeah, I'm half in, half out. You have to go all in on these things. And if you do, it's never too late.

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I think the difference between time and energy is one of the most important distinctions to understand as an entrepreneur or just as a human. And the insight here is that we think about time and how we're allocating time, but really the way that you allocate your energy is what matters.

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Energy is the finite resource that we need to be aware of because you may have 24 hours in a day, or you may have 16 hours while you're awake. The reality is that you don't have that much energy. You're not just even energy throughout the day.

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And the things that you deploy your energy into, especially the things that create energy for you, where you feel really drawn to them, those are the things that create the incredible 10x, 100x, 1000x outcomes in your life. We all know this in our own experience. The times when we have generated incredible outputs and incredible results, it has always been when we felt pulled towards something.

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When we were able to like put our head down and not even realize, like time was just disappearing. You lost yourself in the thing you were doing. We need to tune into that more because when you lean into things that are creating energy in your life in that way, relationships or business endeavors, that is what creates the most incredible outcomes in your life.

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And so in the book, actually, I have an exercise that I love people to walk through to actually identify the things that are creating energy in your life. I call it the energy calendar. And all you have to do is at the end of a weekday, take a Monday, at the end of a Monday, Color code your calendar according to whether the activity created energy, meaning you felt lifted up by it, mark it green.

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It was neutral, mark it yellow. And if it was draining, if you felt physically drained by it, mark it red. At the end of a week, if you do that every day, you have a very clear picture of the types of activities and the types of people who are creating energy in your life versus draining energy in your life.

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After you have that insight, you can slowly reposition your calendar to be focused more on energy creators than energy drainers. That will change your entire life because you'll be spending more of your time on things that are lifting you up, on things you are pulled towards, and less on things that are killing you. That will lead to better outcomes. It'll lead to better relationships.

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It'll lead to an improved business. All of the outcomes we want in life will follow as a result of leaning into those energy creators.

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Thank you so much for having me. I'm thrilled to do it.

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You have more control than you think, even in a nine to five. I'll give you an example. I did that exercise for the first time when I was still working my 80 to 100 hour a week finance job. The biggest energy drainer I found on my calendar was phone calls and Zoom meetings.

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And while I could not just start saying no to those, I was an associate at the time, like I was still pretty junior, I could slightly tweak the way that I was doing them in order to make them more energy creating. by doing some of them while out on a walk. So what I noticed about myself was that sitting at my desk doing a phone call or a Zoom is about as energy draining as I can get.

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But doing that same phone call or Zoom while walking was very energy creating for me. I love being outside. I'm more present because you can't multitask when you're on a phone call on a walk. And so as a result, I actually show up better on those calls. Like if you and I were doing one, you would notice I felt more present and I feel much better after doing them.

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So I took half of my calls, the ones that I was able to, and put them into walking calls. Now, suddenly at the end of a week, I feel way, way different. I feel way more uplifted by the entire week. I show up better on those calls. The outcomes are better. That compounds in your life. The insight there is that's one example of a way where you would say, oh, I have no control.

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I'm working a nine-to-five, a normal job. But you have more control than you think. You just have to be willing to scrutinize a little bit some of the activities and ask, can I do these a little bit differently than I currently am?

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I laugh about this a lot because my most entrepreneurial friends, and I'm lucky to have some incredible friends out there, when you go ask them what their journey with entrepreneurship was, most of them will be like, well, when I was eight years old, I started this lemonade stand, and then it was a lemonade enterprise across multiple towns. I just dicked around when I was a kid. I played baseball.

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I was just screwing around. I didn't have an entrepreneurial bone in my body. My dad is a professor, the least entrepreneurial track you can follow. And so we didn't have it in our blood in any way. So when I was thinking about leaving my old job to pursue this entrepreneurial path, that was weird. I didn't have like a supportive family around that telling me, oh, you should definitely do that.

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My wife was very supportive, but to be honest, I didn't know if I could do it. I didn't even know what entrepreneurship really meant. And if I can do it, anyone can do it because I was not wired for this. It wasn't like I was a great risk taker. I'm very risk averse. The insight I have around this is you can't plan entrepreneurship.

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The whole idea in business school, you went to business school, the whole idea of creating a business plan is sort of a joke. Like you don't need to create a business plan to go launch your first thing. You need to create evidence. You need to create evidence that you can do it, which is just done by taking a little bit of action. You have to go and do the thing.

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You can't talk about the thing or brainstorm the thing. You have to go do the thing. And that was all I did. I started writing the newsletter in May of 2021. And there was no monetization plan. There was no strategy to it. I just started writing it. And by the end of that month, I had 15,000 or so subscribers.

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And I sent a text to a founder of a startup that I knew and asked if he would want to sponsor one. And he said, sure. And I think he gave me $500 to put out the first sponsorship. And that was this little bit of evidence that I created that I was like, oh, man. Okay, so I'm sending one a week and it's making me $500. What if I send two a week? Now it's gonna be $1,000 a week, $4,000 a month.

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This concept, I came upon originally via the founder and first CEO of Netflix, a man named Mark Randolph.

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I was like, man, if I scale it, if I grow the new, like I started to see a path. And I don't know if you know the ancient poet Rumi once said, as you start to walk on the way, the way appears. As you start to walk on the way, the way appears. And I love that because what it reminds you, especially as an entrepreneur, is that you cannot figure it out standing still.

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You start to walk and then the path becomes clear. And so that was really the story for me with anything that I've done. It's been I start moving. I start doing something, whatever bad version of it looks like. And then the answers start to become clear to me.

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motivation is a byproduct of movement.

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Your energy that you put out into the world literally creates it. So the whole idea of you need to be motivated to act is actually the inverse. You need to act and then you become motivated.

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You may be familiar with. And Mark posted this really interesting thing, I think this is probably about two years ago now, where he talked about the fact that throughout his entire technology career, extraordinarily successful technology career, made oodles and oodles of money, built these amazing businesses.

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The single greatest obstacle I have faced and that I think most people face when they dive into the entrepreneurial journey is they overcomplicate what it means to be an entrepreneur. All it means is that you are going to solve problems for people. You are going to create value for people via solving their problems. and you will get paid, you will receive value in return.

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Overcomplicating that, thinking about all of these things around structure and business plans and all of these big questions that you can get bombarded by on social media is actually losing sight of the most important thing. The most important thing is just figure out how to create value for other people. If you do that, you'll receive value in return. All it comes down to is that.

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It is identify a problem, create a solution, and then scale that solution. The more scalable the solution, the more money you will make. And if you distill it down to that and deconstruct it down to that, it actually feels quite simple because then it's one of those three things that you need to be thinking about.

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When you're starting and you're trying to find your journey and what you might be interested in, all you need to focus on is identifying problems. Literally take out a notepad, walk around for a week, and just write down every problem you perceive of the people around you that you're interacting with.

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That's literally the first place I would start if I wanted to go create a new business and I didn't know what to do. Just identify problems. Then, once you've done that, start to think about solutions. How might you be able to solve that problem for that person, whether it's with a service or a product or something you can put out? And then think about how you would scale that solution.

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How would you reach more people? How would you make the solution more scalable through the internet, through social, through whatever it is, whatever means. But that's what it all comes down to. And that is what stalls a lot of people is they overcomplicate it so then they do nothing.

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you have to create your own structure. I think what you've hit on there is actually the biggest challenge for most people when they actually do start, when they do take the leap and they're diving into it is you've known historically exactly what you had to do at all times of the day.

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You knew what meetings, what work you had to do, what emails you had to send, and now no one is telling you what to do. I think the first activity I would go through is to actually create a clear routine and structure to your day. And I do that straight into the calendar because I think that your energy will really flow with what you put onto your calendar.

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The thing that he was most proud about was that he had this rule that every single Tuesday at 5 p.m., he would leave work and go out on a date with his wife.

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Your priorities are really just an outflow from your calendar. Keith Raboy, the famous investor said, don't tell me your priorities, show me your calendar. I love that quote because it's true. It's like you can't say your priorities are building a business and then your calendar is a whole bunch of busy work meetings.

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You need to have time on their structure to actually work on the things that matter. So structure your day. Become a disciplined routine person for a period of time where you really break down your day according to the type of activity that you're going to be doing during that window. It's called time blocking. It works really well.

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It doesn't need to be down to the minute, but have windows of time. So if you know, for example, that you are very creative early in the morning, wake up and have a block of time for creative work. So if part of your business is going to be creating content to drive the top of funnel like it is for us, and you're most creative in the morning.

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You should probably have a window of time in the morning when you're focused on creating content, creating things that are going to drive that top of funnel. Have a window of time when you're gonna be processing emails and doing basic management tasks like invoices or meetings, whatever those might be.

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But have real structure on a daily basis, and then you won't feel that anxiety and aimlessness that naturally happens. I've written this before that stress and anxiety feed on idleness. When you take action, when you have movement, you literally starve them of the oxygen they need to breathe. So when in doubt, you just have to act.

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And he says that what he's most proud about from his career is not that he founded these incredible companies or made all this money, but that he managed to do that while having an incredible marriage and having kids who love him and like spending time with him. And it struck me when I first read that, that the idea of leaving at 5 p.m.

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You have to have that clear structure so that you know you're doing something throughout the day.

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to have dinner with his wife was not really about any one date or about the dinner itself. It was about what it implied about who he was as a person, about the boundaries that he was creating, about what his priorities were in life, and about the ripple effects that that idea created into other areas of his life. And that was where I came to this term in talking to Mark about a life razor.

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I have always been someone that is rather reflective. I try to accumulate insights and wisdom from people who I feel have a lot of it. I've been very fortunate to have a number of mentors and people in my life, many of whom are significantly older, some of whom are just a little bit older, but who have unique experiences and have taken the plunge in different ways in their life.

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I like to, on an annual basis, create a reflection exercise where I go and ask them what advice would they give to their younger self at whatever age I'm at. I kind of started when I was around 30, and I asked a whole bunch of people what advice they would give to their 30-year-old self. What do they wish they knew then that they know now?

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A razor, if you're not familiar with it, is the idea of a single point of focus, a rule of thumb that allows you to cut through the noise when you're making a decision. So for Mark Randolph, He was the type of person who left work to have a 5 p.m. dinner with his wife. That was his life raiser. It was a single point of focus that no matter what allowed him to cut through the noise in his life.

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And it ends up creating this incredible map of how to live younger. a life and a beautiful life and so i share some of it in the book in this upfront section of especially from this one year on my 30th birthday when i did it with all people that were 80 and 90 years old actually 100 year old and it created this incredible clear vision in my mind of what matters and what doesn't.

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The things that I was stressing over and how I need to just be able to look through those and see the bigger picture, see the real true north of what we are all trying to drive towards.

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It was a huge part of creating this idea of the five types of wealth, of thinking about the fact that money was an enabler to a lot of the ends, but it was not an end in and of itself. In other words, money is a tool, but not the goal. And it brought to light the fact that there were really four things that kept coming up for everyone. It was time, people, purpose, and health.

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Those were the four things that everyone really focused on. And again, money was an enabler to some of those, but it wasn't really an end in and of itself. And that ended up creating and being the early structure and skeleton of this idea of the five types of wealth. Financial wealth is one of the five types of wealth. It is very important.

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Every single time I thought I was too late, it was still early. And all it took was for me to actually lean into the thing and just do it consistently every single day.

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But these other four of time wealth, of social wealth, and of mental wealth and physical wealth are how that all got rounded out into this new scoreboard for your life.

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Time wealth is the freedom to choose. It is all about having the freedom to choose how you spend your time, who you spend it with, where you spend it, when you trade it for other things. And it all starts with what we were talking about earlier, which is an awareness of time as your most precious asset. I often ask young people, would you trade lives with Warren Buffett? Think about it.

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Would you trade lives with Warren Buffett? He's worth $130 billion. He has access to anyone in the world. He flies around on Boeing business jets. He has houses all over the place. He reads and learns for a living. But you wouldn't trade lives with him because he's 95 years old. You would never trade the time you have left for $130 billion. So you know your time has incalculable value.

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Yet, on a daily basis, how much time are you really wasting? Scrolling on TikTok, flipping around on your phone, comparing yourself to other people, worrying about little busy work tasks, urgent things that don't really matter, that aren't driving you forward. We all do that. Yeah.

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So creating an awareness of just how important your time is, just how precious it is, is what allows you to then say, okay, I'm going to take this really seriously. I'm going to deploy my precious attention and energy into the few things and into the few relationships that really matter, that are really creating those outcomes in my life that I want. That is what time wealth is all about.

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It's about deploying your attention and energy into the few things that really move you forward, that really matter.

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Yeah, there's a few. And a few are shared in the book. The energy calendar is a great start for figuring out where am I getting my energy from so that I can focus in. There's another one that actually comes from Warren Buffett where he asks you to create a list of your 25 priorities in life. Go write down all of your priorities. And then he says, okay, now you have to circle only five of them.

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And anytime something came up, he could identify himself as that type of person. You know, if an interesting career opportunity came up, he could say, no, I'm the type of person who leaves work at 5 p.m. to have dinner with my wife. That is an important part of who he is as a human being. And that is something that we all need to think about in our own lives. What is our life razor?

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And you have to go and try to figure out on this long list of things you've just written down, what are the five things that actually matter? So now you have a list of five things circled and 20 things that you didn't circle. And what he says is the five things you circled are your true priorities. Those are the things that you need to put energy towards.

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The other 20 things are your avoid at all costs list. Because every single ounce or energy that you put towards those is just a distraction. All of those things are just a distraction pulling you away from the things that are really going to drive the outcomes, the things that really matter.

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And so it's a critical exercise for thinking about that exact thing of what does really matter and where do I need to avoid the distraction in life? Because that's where we really get lost on these journeys is we get pulled by the little shiny object that's floating over here when the thing right in front of us is the thing we need to hammer in on.

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And as entrepreneurs and as ambitious people in particular, we have a bad, bad tendency to take on too much. Totally. And when you take on too much, you aren't actually getting more done. You are getting less done. Mm-hmm. Because you're pulling yourself away from the thing that's really going to create the incredible outcomes.

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And so there's a moment in every entrepreneur's life, anyone who has achieved extraordinary success, when they realized that actually they figured out what the one thing was that really mattered and they were going to put all their energy into that one thing. And just keep chipping away at it over a long period of time.

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The whole idea of like, I'm going to have 15 income streams is a little bit of a farce because every single one of those is like, you're going to have a little bit of attention on each one of those rather than, okay, I'm going to have a lot of attention on two or three things that could be the really big one.

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There are going to be long periods of loneliness on your entrepreneurial journey, and that's okay. That is a necessary cost of entry to the personal transformation that you are trying to create in your life.

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Because literally what happens is you start changing and growing as you were with the things you were building, the things you were focusing on, and your environment that you previously existed in has not changed. And so there comes to a moment when it feels like you are actually speaking a different language than the people that you used to be close to.

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And they will not understand the way you were living and the things you were doing. And they may belittle you, they may tell you to be realistic, they may laugh at your ambitions. Taylor Swift once said, the worst people in the world are the ones who make you feel bad for being excited about something. I think about that all the time. There are people that have done that on your journey.

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We know who they are. So that period of loneliness before you have attracted new people, because you haven't quite gotten to the place where you're going, you haven't attracted your new environment yet, is long and sometimes really painful. But understanding that it is the cost of entry for building the life you want allows you to feel empowered on that journey. Understand this is normal.

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This loneliness is actually a normal part of my entrepreneurial journey. That's an important mindset shift that I have had to have and that I've shared with people along this path. All of that being said, the understanding that your life has seasons is critical here.

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What is our identity-defining rule for our life? Mine is, I will coach my son's sports teams. And it's a similar concept to Mark Randolph's in that I define myself as the type of person who is a husband, a father, a community member, a leader in all of these ways.

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You actually articulated it really well in describing your own journey, which is you went through this really focused part, this focused season as you were building the foundation for the rest of your life, building the foundation with your business, which you've now done. And you are now in a season where you can rekindle these new relationships and build this incredible social wealth.

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That is exactly how life works. Your 20s, early 30s, maybe into your 40s are really spent building this foundation. And that's okay for social wealth to exist on the back burner during those times. It doesn't mean you want it to completely shut off.

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It would still be great for you to be able to cultivate family relationships or one or two close friends during those periods, still send the text, still do the one annual trip, do the little thing, the tiny little investment that compounds. but you don't need it to be the primary focus of your life at all times.

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The important realization there is that the exact same way we know that investing a little bit in financial wealth compounds into the future, the exact same principle holds for social wealth. You can invest a little bit in social wealth and still have it compound into the future. The little text that you send, the one coffee that you get with the old friend, the

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birthday with the parents, all of those things are tiny little time investments that really do keep those relationships flowing in a healthy way into the future. You don't need to be the social butterfly life of the party during those years when you're head down. It's just true. And that's okay. You can feel liberated by that idea of these seasons coming and going.

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I think networking is dead. The concept of networking implies a transaction that is not conducive to building genuine relationships. What you are really seeking to do is build genuine connection with people.

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If you go into a new interaction with someone trying to get something out of it, you will never build a real relationship with that person, especially if that person is ahead of you, if it's someone that has achieved the things that you're looking to achieve, because everyone can pick up on that. It is very blindingly obvious when you interact with someone that just has their hand out.

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They just want something from you. Now you experience that on the other end of it. We've been that way in our own lives. It is such an important idea to say, as you go into an interaction with someone for the first time, how would I interact with this person if I assumed that I was going to know them for the next 50 years? Think about that in your mind. How would I interact with them?

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I would not be transactional with that person because I'm going to have to spend time with them for the next 50 years. I will probably really start to listen. I will really lean into understanding who they are as a person, creating a map in my mind of the type of things they're excited about, the values that they hold. Those would be the things I would focus on.

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I would try to create value for them so that they felt connected to me in some way. Approaching relationships in that way, where you are really genuinely seeking to give with no expectation of return, that is when you end up getting the best returns, which is the funny paradox of relationships. When you give with no expectation of return, you get the best returns in life.

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And being able to say I'm the type of person who coaches my son's sports teams means certain things about who I am and how I interact with the world around me. It means that I'll prioritize family ahead of certain financial opportunities. It means I'll be willing to make sacrifices to prioritize those in my life. And so I encourage other people to think about that.

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And I have found that time and time again. Some of my mentors that have provided extraordinary value in my life are people that I didn't even know they were impressive when we first met. I just wanted to be friends with different people. I was trying to learn from the people that were around me. And it ended up sparking these incredible relationships because there was no networking in mind.

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It had nothing to do with a transaction. It was just, I genuinely want to get to know people.

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Immediately, especially people who are very successful. Because again, it's very lonely at the top. They are used to just having people come with a handout. And so if you want to stand out to those people and if you want to build those connections, you have to be the opposite. You have to be the person that comes with the thing. You're providing the value.

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It's the same as when people are trying to do cold outreach to get a job or to connect with someone. Come with some value. And it's not that hard to figure out how to create value. I could probably spend, if I was trying to meet you, I could probably spend an hour

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doing some research about you and identifying a couple of areas that I know from you talking about it on podcasts are trying to focus on and build in your business. I could do a little bit of research, figure that out, and then I could try to work on some sort of proposal or solution to that problem that you were facing.

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Maybe you're saying like you're trying to build your podcast network and you're trying to reach new potential podcasters. I could reach out to some of them, create some sort of connection there, recognize that I could make an intro, and now I would come to you with some level of value.

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You would take me so much more seriously than if I just came being like, hey, I'd love to meet you, pick your brain, right?

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Yeah. And that is something that in hindsight, people will call you lucky. Like, oh, you're so lucky for having Jordan Harbinger be your mentor and be a connection that you have. There's no luck involved in that. You were hustling for a year. And I say this, I'm like, you are one year of focus away from people calling you lucky.

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I walk through an exercise in the book to identify your own, how to come to your own life razor. It's a really important way to cut through the noise and make decisions in your life.

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You putting in focused daily effort for a year led to the luck that other people see on the surface. It's just the truth. So you continue to put forward the effort. You continue to put forward the hustle, the energy, the motion. And now the lucky thing happens.

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Similar idea. Basically, the idea is that mentorship is... a fading or dying concept. And it's funny, we just talk about mentorship. I would argue what we're really talking about is more the brain trust. So mentor, in the traditional sense of the word, is the idea that you would identify a single person who was going to be your mentor.

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And they were going to help you navigate all of the challenges in your professional career that you were going to face, and maybe your personal life as well. That is a crazy concept because it implies that there is a single person out there who has all of the answers that can help you navigate the terrain that you are facing, that their map will match your terrain.

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And it implies a really high level of commitment on that person's part to be willing to do that. It sounds like a big burden. If you go ask someone, will you be my mentor? Oh, that sounds like a lot of work, especially if it's someone high up that has a demanding job or demanding path. I think of the concept of the brain trust as the 21st century alternative to the 20th century idea of mentorship.

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A brain trust is a group of people from different backgrounds and experience sets that you can call upon for advice or guidance about different areas of your life. They are people that have, ideally, domain expertise in these different areas that you can turn to at different inflection points in your own life and journey. The origin of the concept is from Pixar.

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They do a brain trust for every movie that they're creating. It's a bunch of people that aren't involved in the creation of the movie that pressure test and help make the movie better along the way. They make sure that the storyline is good and that they're tugging on heartstrings the right way, all of those things. You can develop a brain trust for your own life. It doesn't need to be formal.

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No one needs to know they're even a part of your brain trust. But there are people that you go and call upon whenever you're facing whatever challenge who have that unique set of insights, who have that perspective, and who are willing to tell you the truth, give you the hard feedback along the way.

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It also is just, it's an easy way to naturally stay in touch with people that you want to stay in touch with. Like someone that you have connected with once or twice and you want to continue to foster the connection, the relationship, the same way you did with Jordan. It's an easy way to say like, hey, this thing came up. Have you ever faced anything like this?

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And you create a natural touch point. And it could end up being like once a quarter or once every six months. It doesn't need to be so often because they're not your only persons. So you can turn to other people along the way. But it's been a great practice for me. And the people that I would consider to be on my brain trust, I've just gotten so much value from them over the years.

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So the media business I think of as existing sort of over the top of everything. It's a little bit of a halo in that it provides value to all the other businesses. It is a self-sustaining business that is profitable. And as we all know, media businesses can be very profitable and very high margin. The media business functionally today is newsletter and book.

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The idea of your own life, of having like these different seasons of your life is a really important concept to me. And that concept says that basically during the course of your life, the things that you prioritize or focus on will change. During your 20s and 30s, that is a great time for you to focus on building a financial foundation for the rest of your life.

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There are a few other things that exist in there and there will be more things that get out of there post the book, but it's really just been those to date. The holding company is a number of partially owned businesses that have CEOs that are running them. And these are businesses that I am involved in at a board or strategic level, but not on an operational level on a day-to-day basis.

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The entire idea there was to create businesses around things that I could naturally drive value to via my media platform. Things that I have a unique set of experiences in that I can naturally drive leads towards. It would be like newsletter businesses or design development businesses, other things within those spaces. Those all have profitable, financial profiles.

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So none of them have been like, you know, money losing venture like investments. They're all profitable from day one, largely bootstrapped. A couple of them have been things that we've seeded, but generally speaking, bootstrapped.

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And they shoot off distributions every single month and their cash flow straight up back to the holding company, which is great because then you can reinvest across different things. And then the venture fund, I raised that in 2022. I had worked in the world of investing for the first seven years of my career, mostly later stage private equity stuff. This is all early stage technology companies.

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So I raised a $10 million venture fund from a whole bunch of LPs and investors and have been investing out of that, have made 50 or so investments and will likely raise a second fund here in the next year or so.

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As I talk about some of the concepts of the book of building a life of wealth across all these different areas, that doesn't mean that your life is going to be perfectly in balance across these five areas throughout your life. What it means is that you need to think about all of them as you consider building.

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But what you're prioritizing, what you are really focusing on during any one season will change. What that means is that your life razor may change across these different periods of your life because when you are 20 or when you're in your early 30s and you're really honing in on

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I remember coming across the case study of Amazon Web Services in maybe like 2018, 2019. And for those who aren't familiar with that story, basically, Bezos, as they were building Amazon, the bookstore and the e-commerce platform, had to build an extraordinarily large platform of compute power, basically, on the back end to power the entire e-commerce business that they were doing.

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So they built this whole back-end thing that was a huge cost center for the business. What they realized was that there were a lot of people as the technology ecosystem grew that needed that type of enormous compute power. So they started renting it out effectively, charging people to use this extraordinary compute power that they had created.

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That became an enormous profit center for Amazon, now in the hundreds of billions of dollars. That is a separate company called Amazon Web Services.

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That idea sparked in me whether there was a micro, micro, micro version of that same thing that I could adopt in my own world, where things I was spending money on, on an ongoing monthly basis, as a creator and as a business person, could be things that I could turn into profit centers for my business. So turn my cost centers into profit centers.

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doing hard things, building a business, building a financial foundation for your life, it might be something like waking up and doing hard things. That's your life raiser. Then as you have kids and as you're prioritizing family, it may become something more like Mark Randolph that you leave to have dinner.

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And that has been an overarching mental model of how we've approached our different businesses that we've launched. The first example of that was a newsletter business where I was paying a team to manage the back end of my newsletter. So I decided all I want to do is write the newsletter. I don't want to deal with lead magnets. I don't want to deal with paid ads.

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I don't want to deal with segmentation funnels, any of those things. I'm just not good at that and I don't really care. So I'm going to pay someone to do it. That team turned out to be really good at doing that. And so I went and partnered with them and a friend of mine who is a founder of a business called Kit, which is a newsletter sending platform. Yeah, ConvertKit.

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And we partnered to launch this as a business. I continue to pay them every single month to do the back end of my newsletter. And now it is also a massively profitable business. I shouldn't say massively. It is a very profitable business where we serve the back end of newsletters for some of the largest newsletter writers out there in the world.

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turning a cost center for me into a profit center for me. Similar versions of that across different areas of my business have materialized over the last two or three years. Content agency business, design development business, video businesses, embedded talent business that if you need to hire offshore talent into your business will do that.

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And it has become a really cool way of coming up with the ideas for the things because I can see them on my own P&L. Looking at my P&L, I can see what I'm spending money on and thinking, okay, is there a way where I can actually own the business rather than just having this be a cash outflow every month?

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It could be any of those. So it depends where you catch them in the life cycle. In the case of the newsletter one, that was a brand new business. That was a guy I was friends with who was just doing this on the back end for me as a consultant. And he was just an independent freelance consultant doing it. And I said, we should productize this and make it into a service and a real business.

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And so we founded that from the ground up. There are examples now of businesses like the design development business where you can make an investment both in cash and then also in the form of your platform. So when I say that, what I mean is I can drive a lot of leads to these businesses via my platform. That is a form of investment in this person's business that they've already started.

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And so you can do a combination kind of structure of cash plus my energy, my platform, audience, distribution, if you will, that you can kind of invest in it. The third way that you could do it is just go buy a business. Yeah. Cody obviously does that. I will do more of that in the years to come at the holding company level that will use holding company cash flows to go buy bigger businesses.

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We can raise quite easily probably anything up to like $50 million to go and buy a bigger business if we saw something that was really exciting where we felt like we could really bring unique value add to the table.

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There's a lot of resources out there now for learning about buying businesses. I would definitely go and read a bunch of the books that exist about private equity on like the more traditional versions of private equity.

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There's a great book called King of Capital about Steve Schwartzman, who was kind of the first person within private equity world that really built Blackstone, which is a huge private equity fund. Cody obviously has a new book out about buying smaller businesses and sort of main street businesses, which is a great resource.

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But there's plenty of free online resources that you can go and look at and find about investing in buying businesses. And again, the thing to think about is, are there creative ways that you can do it?

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And if you have a platform or if you have built some unique distribution or some unique strategic perspective, or if you have a unique SEO capability or unique paid marketing capability, there's a way where you can actually invest via your energy rather than cash.

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So the art of the deal, if you will, is really about identifying what is that unique edge that you might have to make this business bigger than it is today, where you can invest that into the business in addition to or instead of any upfront capital.

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Yeah, I mean, you probably have, I bet there are 10 businesses that you'll think of over the next month now that you have this in mind that you'll see and say, oh, I could probably actually like invest in this or be a part of it and drive business into it. That as just an idea comes from Peter Lynch is this very famous Wall Street legend who wrote this book.

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I think it's called One Up on Wall Street. One of the best investing books of all time. It's sort of a legendary one. And one of his best investments of his career was he invested in Hanes, the underwear company. And he invested in it because his wife came home from CVS or something, and she had picked up a pair of Cane's pantyhose, and she was raving about it to him.

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And so he was like, oh, I'm going to go pick up some shares of that company. She was raving about this tiny little company. And he ended up making like an 100x return on this public market investment. And so the idea there was like invest in things you love. If you uniquely love an experience or a product, it's probably going to be something that ends up being profitable.

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The barbell strategy as a model says that on a risk spectrum, if you think about the most risky things on one end and the least risky things on the other end, that you want to be weighted on both of those ends. I basically want to have a handful of things that are highly risky. For me, the highly risky things are investments in myself and in my own businesses.

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Then on the other end, it's going to be super boring basic stuff. For me, stock market index funds. I don't want things in between that I don't really understand. My whole goal is I really only want to invest in things that I can really touch and feel and understand. And so the riskiest stuff is always going to be creating your own businesses.

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I think a lot about the fact that the stories we tell ourselves about who we are are so important to how we interact with the world. And especially those original stories that you tell yourself about the type of person you are, and your capabilities and your competencies, those stories are very hard to break.

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And the fun thing about that as risky is that you actually control it to an extent versus me investing in, let's take another really risky thing like crypto. I don't control the price of Bitcoin or Ethereum or whatever. I don't control. And so, yes, it might be a great investment, but I have no ability to influence the outcomes.

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I have a high degree of ability to influence the outcomes of my own businesses, things that I am actually driving. would prefer to invest my time and energy into things that I have some degree of control over. And if I don't have a degree of control over them, I want them to be super safe and basic and boring. And so that's why, for me, the best plan is that.

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It's the personal things that I do that I have control over on the riskier end, and then I'm putting money into the Vanguard S&P 500 index fund on the other side.

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All of life is about deciding the price you are willing to pay for the things that you want. And what I would argue is that to perfectly optimize any one area of this, you would need to completely shut off every other area. And some people do that. And most people that do that do it to perfectly optimize financial wealth at the expense of every other area of their life.

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They lose all their relationships. Their health goes to hell. They have no clarity of mind. They're stressed all the time. They have no time, freedom. to these other areas.

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What I try to find is what is the place where I'm able to build across all of these things, where I am able to build great big businesses, but not at the expense of not being able to spend time with my wife and son, not at the expense of not having time to work on my body or take care of myself or have the freedom to take my son in the pool at 1 p.m. on a Wednesday.

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I've written that before, that the wealthiest I ever feel is when I'm able to take my son swimming at 1 p.m. on a Wednesday because it implies that I have the freedom to do that, that I have a business that's big enough that's working where I'm able to have free time. I don't have calls all of a sudden in the middle of the day. I can go do that.

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I think networking is dead. What you are really seeking to do is that is when you end up getting the best returns.

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You are always going to face these tradeoffs, and what you need to decide is what tradeoffs are you willing to make. Not the ones that people tell you you should make, not the ones that the normal path says are the ones that matter, but what you truly care about. If all you care about is building an enormous business, that's great. I'm happy for you and you should build your life around that.

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But the point in the book and the point that I'm trying to get across with everything that I do is you get to decide. You get to define what matters to you in your own life and you have to ask these questions and then take action to build your life around those things. It's no one else's job to tell you what matters to you. You get to decide.

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And so if it is a negative story that you are starting to tell yourself, you will look around the world and you'll find all of the information that confirms that story. And if there's things that refute that story, you won't see it, you'll reject it. It's called the narrative fallacy. Humans are storytelling creatures, so we look to confirm the stories that we understand.

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And that I think is the really important critical message in all of this. It's just, I want people to identify and really think about what matters to them and then go build their life around those things.

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Create more space in your life. Create deliberate practices around space. The idea of space comes from Viktor Frankl, who is the famous Holocaust survivor, the author of Man's Search for Meaning. And he has a quote where he says that our power exists in the space that we can create between stimulus and response.

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Entrepreneurs in particular live in this constant loop where stimulus is coming in and they're immediately responding to it at all hours of the day, at all times. That is a very dangerous place to be because it makes you reactive. Everything in your life becomes a reaction. There's just things coming in and you're immediately shooting things out.

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You find incredible power and presence if you can just create a little bit of space between the two. That can be found through a five minute walk in between meetings, or a 15 minute walk after lunch, or taking one day per month to just zoom out and go journal for a few hours at a coffee shop, or just making sure you give yourself one evening a week where you're not gonna work.

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Creating a little bit of space in your life has dramatic, dramatic effects. But you have to be deliberate in how you structure it into your life. It can't be something that's floating in the back of your mind. To the point earlier on time blocking and structuring, put it on your calendar. Actually have a window where you're going to create space.

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You cannot be on your phone scrolling during that time. It needs to be truly shut off and just give yourself that freedom to just turn off for a short window of time and you'll experience incredible benefits.

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Five minute walks in between meetings. So if you have a bunch of 30 minute meetings on your calendar, make them all 25 minutes. This is actually scientifically proven. So Microsoft did a study where they put EEGs on people's heads and had them go through a set of back-to-back meetings or a set of meetings where they had a five minute break in between each.

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The people that went through back-to-back meetings saw stress build up steadily across the meetings and performance deteriorated across the meetings. The people that had a five-minute break, zero stress buildup and consistent performance. It makes an enormous difference with a tiny intervention.

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So 25-minute meetings instead of 30, honestly, all that happens is you remove the banter about the weather that meetings start with, you just can get rid of that. You'll be more efficient, you'll get it done. Then the second practice which I walk through in the book is once a month or once a quarter at a minimum, do what I call a think day.

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where you give yourself like a four to eight hour window to step out of your normal ecosystem, go into a new environment, whether it's at a coffee shop or rent an Airbnb or go to a hotel or go to a spa, do something.

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I had told myself from a young age a story that I wasn't smart. I have an older sister who is extraordinarily high achieving academically. And at the first sign of me not being able to easily do that same thing that she was doing, I started telling myself, I'm not the smart one. I need to find a different thing. I need to be athletic or something else, but I'm not smart.

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Bring a journal, bring a pen and walk through, I have eight question prompts in the book, walk through some of those question prompts that force you to zoom out and just look at the bigger picture of the things you're doing, professionally and personally. That will naturally create this incredible ritual for space in your life.

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So if you do the micro level of the five-minute breaks, and if you do the macro level of a think day once a month or once a quarter, you'll get a ton of benefit.

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I've always thought that you have stress when there's a gap between your present reality and your expectations, but in particular, when you don't have a plan to bridge that gap. And that strategy day or that think day allows you to create that plan for bridging the gap. And then it just becomes about execution. And you're an entrepreneur. You know you can execute.

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You know you can show up and be disciplined and do the thing every day, do the hard thing. So it just allows you to create enough space to create that plan. And the stress, as you said, melts away.

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Yeah, I'm an early riser. I have like a 90-year-old man schedule. So I go to bed at about 8.15, 8.30, and I wake up at 4.00. I love the early morning hours partially because it's the only time of day I get when there's no stimulus. There's nothing coming in. My kid's not awake yet. I have a two and a half year old. He's not up. You're not getting emails.

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No one's texting you at four in the morning. And so I get this two or three hour block just to myself. I, first thing out of bed, get into the cold plunge. I have no idea if it has any health benefits, but it definitely has cognitive benefits for me. I get an incredible energy boost from it and definitely a mood improvement from it. The dopamine, I think, really does impact me.

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I get out of the cold plunge and I'm usually at my desk by about 4.45 or so. I always do a writing block to start the day. That's when I feel most creative. So this book got written from about 5 a.m. to 8 a.m. over the course of two or three years. And after that, my son is awake. I would do breakfast with the whole family.

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And then I sort of go into my workouts from somewhere between 9.30 and 11.30.

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I would create an evening three to five minute journaling ritual. This reflection, I think, really helps you make more money, allowing yourself to just pause and reflect a bit. And the thing I do is I call it my one, one, one method. So you write down one win from the day. That's something that you feel good about that went well.

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One point of stress, tension, or anxiety, something that was bugging you that you need to get off your brain and onto the paper. And then one point of gratitude, something you felt grateful for during the day. It takes three to five minutes max, and it forces you to recognize a win and just feel better before going to bed at the end of the day.

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That bred within me an insecurity that was very, very hard to crack. And no matter how much my parents told me that it wasn't true, no matter how much my sister told me it wasn't true or teachers, it was the story I told myself and I was not willing to break it.

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My relationship with my wife and son, for sure. I get more joy out of seeing him grow and the relationship that he and my wife have than just about anything else in the world.

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Well, you can find the book anywhere books are sold and more information at thefivetypesofwealth.com. And then I'm at Sahil Bloom on every major platform.

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And it took, frankly, like 30 years for me to finally reject those original stories and truly create the space for introspection to actually break some of those original stories I had told myself.

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The early years of my career were very much spent head down, focused on building a financial and sort of experience and knowledge foundation for the rest of my life. I loved my early years in finance. I went and worked at a private equity fund, which for those that aren't familiar, it's a fund that raises a pool of capital and you go and buy and sell companies and you make money along the way.

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It was an extraordinary learning experience. And when I give advice to young people, what I say is, when you are young, time is the only thing that you have. It is your only asset. You don't have networks. You don't have money. You don't have experience. You don't have knowledge. You don't have any of those things.

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And so as a result, you need to take the time that you do have and trade it for all of those things. Once you've done that, then the whole world is open up to you because now you have networks and money and experience, and you can deploy those into the most interesting, asymmetric, high upside opportunities. But until you do that trade, you wouldn't know how to work smart.

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When young people say, oh, I'm going to work smart, not hard, you can't really do that until you work hard because you don't have the assets to work smart.

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So my early career years, I was just working 80 to 100 hours a week. And that was very much the trading time for all of these other things phase of my life. And it was fantastic for three or four years. And what happened to me was I started to make money. I started to convince myself that my happiness and fulfillment was on the other side of some arbitrary financial milestone.

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Basically, I started marching down the path of, I'll be really happy when I make my first million dollars. And then I did that. And then it was, I'll be really happy when I make $3 million. And then I did that. And I was not happy. None of the things that I thought were going to magically appear in my life had materialized. It was just this feeling of disappear and reappear into the horizon.

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And along that journey, a lot of areas of my life that are more important had started to crumble. And that was my relationships had started to really be strained with my parents, with my sister. My wife and I were struggling to conceive at the time. My health, I was drinking seven nights a week, unfortunately. Mental and physical health were really suffering.

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So all of these other areas of my life were starting to deteriorate while on the surface, you would have said I was winning the game. I was getting promoted. I was making money. Things were going well from the outside looking in. And I just started to think as I approached turning 30 that if that was what winning the game felt like, I had to be playing the wrong game.

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And I knew I needed to make a change. And so it was just figuring out what was that change.

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No, I started that the month I left my job. That was in May of 2021. I launched my newsletter. Originally, I launched it just as a way to send the things I was writing on Twitter, which I'd been writing for about a year at that time. From May of 2020, I started on Twitter because I was stuck at home like a lot of people. I was like during lockdowns, I was stuck there.

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And I started writing on Twitter and then I started sending those out to people via emails in May of 2021. And that was really the spark of, okay, maybe there are businesses that you can build off of this stuff, which I'm sure we'll start talking about entrepreneurship. But that was really the first lever of all of that.

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Now it reaches a little over 800,000 people twice a week.

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I had a single conversation in May of 2021 that really changed the course of my life. I went out for a drink with an old friend. This was at the time in my life when I had started to question whether I was playing the wrong game. And he asked how I was doing. And I said, it had started to get difficult being so far away from my parents who were on the East Coast.

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Started to see them getting older and being so far away. And he asked how old they were. And I said, mid-60s. And he asked... how many times do you see them? And I said, maybe once a year. And he just looked at me and said, okay, so you're going to see your parents 15 more times before they die. And I just remember feeling like I had been punched in the gut.

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I mean, the idea that the amount of time you have left with the people you love most in the world is so finite and countable that you can put it onto a few hands is just terrifying. And so the next day I told my wife that I thought we needed to make a change. And within 45 days, I had left my job.

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We had sold our house in California and moved across the country to be closer to both of our sets of parents. And in hindsight, that was really the spark that sent me on this entire journey that has culminated in even being here and talking about this in the book, because there was a key realization there that a wealthy life may involve money, but really it is built around these other things.

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And no job will ever pay you enough to be far away from people you love.

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That was the single greatest change that we ever made was picking up and moving across the country to live closer to them. And now that number 15 times before they die is in the hundreds. Like I see my parents multiple times a month now. They're a huge part of my son's life, all of these things. And so that was the spark that really ended up snowballing into all of these things that have happened.

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Yeah, and look, it all starts with awareness. The fact that you are aware enough to make that change is a huge thing. We don't think about time. Like when you're young, time is not a thing that ever crosses your mind. You don't think about the fact that time is your most precious asset. It is literally the only thing that matters. And when you're young, you are literally a time billionaire.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Sahil Bloom: The 5 Types of Wealth You Need to Design Your Dream Life | Entrepreneurship | E335

955.89

You have billions of seconds left in your life. That is the only thing that you truly have. And we don't relate to ourselves that way. We don't actually treat time as that precious asset. And so then we don't think about it at all until it's the only thing that we think about. But then it's too late. Then you're dead. And what happens is that life ends up being filled with laters.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Sahil Bloom: The 5 Types of Wealth You Need to Design Your Dream Life | Entrepreneurship | E335

977.205

You spend time saying, oh, I'll spend more time with my kids later. I'll spend more time with my parents later. I'll spend more time on my health later. I'll find my purpose later. I'll pursue my passions later. And the sad thing is that later just becomes another word for never. Because those things are not going to exist in the same way later. Your kids are not going to be five years old later.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Sahil Bloom: The 5 Types of Wealth You Need to Design Your Dream Life | Entrepreneurship | E335

996.239

Your parents are going to be dead later. Your health won't be there later. You won't just magically find your passions or purpose later. So unless you build those things into your life now, design them into your life now, you're just going to regret it later.

Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)

Yasir Khan: Speak Like a CEO, a Masterclass on Effective Public Speaking | Human Behavior | E321

148.673

Oh my God.

Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)

Yasir Khan: Speak Like a CEO, a Masterclass on Effective Public Speaking | Human Behavior | E321

2079.564

Hmm.

Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)

Yasir Khan: Speak Like a CEO, a Masterclass on Effective Public Speaking | Human Behavior | E321

3819.003

Hmm.

Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)

Yasir Khan: Speak Like a CEO, a Masterclass on Effective Public Speaking | Human Behavior | E321

821.407

Hmm.