#2284 - Ian Carroll
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Why do people love conspiracy theories?
Why do we love conspiracy so much? Because I fucking love them. Dude. I love them. I love finding out the dirty little tactics and secrets and how the government does things and what the fuck's really going on.
Why is it so exciting? I think it's something like deep down in humanity. It's like we love storytelling. Yeah. And these days, conspiracy theories are like... I mean, 10 years ago, conspiracy theories were fringe and they were... Tell me about it. Right?
I was a conspiracy theorist way back in the day when you were a fucking nut.
Dude, you were a conspiracy theorist when I was not even here yet.
I was arguing with people about the moon landing on the radio before there was any podcasts.
I mean, maybe there's some of the mystery element. But the thing is that so many of them are, it's a knowledge. It's a thirst for knowledge because some of them are total bullshit. But some of them are clearly there's something there. Clearly. Right? Yeah. And realistically, if you had like the journalists of integrity from 1960s era alive today and they hadn't been bought out and shot in the head and whatever else happened.
Dude, I think even in the 60s they were compromised. Well, they were getting bought out. The big one is Woodward with the Watergate story. Oh, yeah. Did you see Bill Murray when I had Bill Murray in here?
I haven't watched it yet, no.
Bob Woodward wrote Wired, which is about John Belushi. Bill Murray read five pages of it, and he said, holy shit, they framed Nixon. He said, the Bob Woodward story about Belushi was so full of shit. It was so exaggerated and fake and just filled with nonsense. He's like, John Belushi was a lightweight. He goes, John Belushi would drink three beers and he'd be drunk. He goes, he was probably the first speedball he ever took and he died from it. Like this whole thing about him being this raving, drug-fueled maniac was totally fabricated.
It's a good example of how the mainstream narrative had Nixon as a crook. And he's just one of many examples, right? And when you really start to look into it, you realize, I mean, probably not the greatest guy, but what was the real story there? What were they framing? Why were they trying to get him out?
Yeah, no, this is not a defense of Nixon. Nixon was not a great guy. But Tucker thinks that Nixon knew too much about the JFK assassination and wanted to talk about it. And he started saying, I know who killed JFK. And he started yapping, and they were like, let's get this motherfucker out of here. And also, one of the terms that he had agreed to, to run for president, was Gerald Ford. Who was on the fucking Warren Commission. Bingo. Gerald Ford as his VP. So Gerald Ford becomes the first ever non-elected president. He slips in. He becomes president for kind of a bullshit term. Does a whole bunch of war party things and just a whole bunch of bullshit. And we decide that Nixon was the real problem with the country.
I mean, how often is it that they're allowing someone that they aren't sure about to get to president, and they're sticking them with a VP that is their guy, right?
Oh, yeah. Dick Cheney.
LBJ with JFK.
Dick Cheney. Dick Cheney. Everybody. Mike Pence. It was the hidden secret that, well, Pence is a, I don't think.
I don't know what the hell to think about Mike Pence.
I have no idea. I think he was good to get the fucking, the religious people.
Super rhino, super like, yeah.
Weird guy.
Yeah. I mean Trump is a weird guy to like who knows what's going on with Trump right now.
He's an animal.
Yeah, he's the most fun I love Trump conspiracy theories because people get so riled up and it's so partisan and political but within it there's all this like juicy like meat for for thinking about it's like not even conspiracy theories it's just like his history and And especially with the Epstein stuff now and his history with Epstein, it just gets me so interested in, you'll never know the real story.
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