Ian Carroll
Appearances
Candace
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Well, there's a new immigration scandal today, and this time it is white people trying to come to America, and everyone's got a hot take. All that while Trump is seemingly reversing the status quo policy on Israel and simultaneously making deals with Saudi Arabia for hundreds of billions of dollars.
Candace
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But if Price refused their offer, then Urban Air insisted Price had to sign the infamous rebate agreement that Price never signed, but that Browning now claims that Price did sign. We'll come back to forging of documents another time in another part of this story. Leave it to say for now that that was never quite resolved and Price was never able to prove that he did not sign that in court.
Candace
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But when they offered to buy him out and he gave a resounding hell no, the next step got taken. Unable to acquire Leap of Faith for the price they wanted, the Urban Air defendants simply altered course and embarked on, quote, Project Leapfrog. This was their plan to steal Leap of Faith's business assets and eliminate any remaining viable enterprise so it could not then operate as a competitor.
Candace
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Shortly thereafter, Urban Air personnel began sending emails to franchises with whom Leap of Faith had active sales and installation contracts in progress that contained the following message. Quote, And it's important to note really quickly that these new wiring instructions no longer linked to Leap of Faith's bank accounts, but instead linked to Urban Air's bank accounts.
Candace
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Quote, many private equity firms ship in only about 1% to 2% of the equity needed for a leveraged buyout and skim fees and interest throughout the deal. If things go well, the firms take a huge cut of the profit when they exit. If everything blows up, they usually still escape with nary a burn.
Candace
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And we will come back to that shortly. But now that he had private equity backers, he needed to get in line and run the private equity playbook the way they wanted to play it. After successfully diverting leap of faith business funds using this ploy, Urban Air began using the following warning on its own email communications.
Candace
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Warning, we're actively working to reduce the possibility of email hacking and phishing. If you receive an email letter or package containing wire transfer instructions, call us using previously known contact information to verify the information prior to sending funds. Never use the information provided in the email.
Candace
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And so when they had just sent an email with new wiring instructions that did not go to the old Leap of Faith bank accounts, but instead seemed to go to Urban Air's bank accounts, diverting all the payments that all of their franchises should have been making to Leap of Faith, but instead are now making to Urban Air, apparently.
Candace
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Then they're sending out this email saying, and if you get any communications telling you to send money to this old, you know, the old communications, don't listen to them. It might be a phishing scam. So in addition to diverting Leap of Faith's incoming payments, Urban Air also moves substantial amounts of money attributable to Leap of Faith into Urban Air Attraction's new account.
Candace
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Urban Air would later take steps to clean out a Leap of Faith checking account. Such theft would never have been possible except for the fact that Leap of Faith accepted Urban Air's offer to provide Leap of Faith with the necessary back-office accounting and invoicing on franchisee products. for a per-park fee. That was that thing we mentioned earlier that was gonna come back around?
Candace
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Allegedly, it came back around. In addition to diverting funds, Urban Air also began an active campaign to solicit Leap of Faith's trained and experienced employees to come to work for Urban Air, and in that process, learned Leap of Faith's installation trade secrets.
Candace
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They also allegedly put up cameras that right there it says, quote, it's obvious to me that you are trying to learn how to install a park with the line of questions you've asked of my team and the cameras you have placed facing the attractions build at the Bedford job site.
Candace
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In his arrogance, Browning readily admits their intentions was to learn and steal leap of faith experience and proprietary know-how so that urban air defendants could use it without leap of faith. Quote, "'It is correct that we have placed cameras at the Bedford location to record the build. It is correct that we are learning how to perform the installs.
Candace
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Myself, John, and Doug have told you numerous times in person that our investors and board of directors will not allow us to have all of our eggs in the LOFA basket.'" They want us to have a contingency plan. Notably, no such videos have been produced in the litigation.
Candace
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Another common tactic used to gut a company is once you control it, you sell off all the real estate to your real estate buddies and then force the company, Toys R Us, to lease back its own properties for monthly rent, further sinking the balance sheet. The private equity model, often called vulture capitalism, is to loot and flip, not to invest or run companies well.
Candace
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On July 24th, 2018, the Urban Air defendants successfully poached 26 of Leap of Faith's 40 full-time trained and experienced employees or three of its five active crews. So, Michael had cameras installed in urban airs that were being built so they could record Leap of Faith installing those attractions and use that footage to make training videos.
Candace
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Because a lot of the attractions arrived without installation instructions, but Leap of Faith's teams were aces and they knew exactly what they were doing because they'd had all that training that he had paid for, which Michael Browning was not as hot on paying for, it didn't seem, but...
Candace
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Then Michael went through a long series of manipulations to acquire everything he needed and file patents on attractions brought to him by Leap of Faith Adventures. And I don't know how much intellectual property he might have stolen this way. There's an immense amount of legal documentation to go through, but I'll show you one or two as an example.
Candace
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So when Leap of Faith finally took Michael Browning to court, a man named David Evans was deposed and testified about theft of his intellectual property. He owned Rascal Face, which is one of the companies that Leap of Faith had worked with over many years because he had invented one of the attractions that Leap of Faith installed in parks, the Skyrider.
Candace
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Remember the zipline-like contraption that we were watching kids falling off of in yesterday's episode? It's that one, right? So this other company invented Skyrider and Leap of Faith is responsible for bringing that attraction to all these different various parks for all these different companies and installing it there. So they're kind of like a middleman. Right.
Candace
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David Evans gave an affidavit in this case, and he said, quote, I met with Michael Browning at a picnic table inside the park to discuss the manuals. And I explained to him they contain sensitive information and therefore that I would need a confidentiality agreement signed by him to cover the Urban Air organization.
Candace
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Michael Browning read the confidentiality agreement and he signed it on February 17th, 2017. A true and correct copy of that signed confidentiality agreement is attached as Exhibit 39. By the way, notice how the text is all messed up on this document? That's because Michael Browning paid a lot of money, I presume millions of dollars, but I don't know, to try to get this entire case sealed.
Candace
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So all the copies available to the public online up until about right now are missing huge chunks and look really weird. It's very strange at first when you find it. But we have the official one leaked to us. Quote, I did not know that Michael Browning was going to file a patent on my design for the multi-level play attraction, which included Sky Rider and my non-return gate.
Candace
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I did not consent to that and would never have shared my invention to him had I known that he was going to file a patent application on it. Here's a copy of the confidentiality agreement that Michael signed with Rascal Face, this company.
Candace
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Quote, you undertake that all confidential information and our approach to you and all discussions and negotiations will be held in complete and strict confidence and shall not, without our prior consent, be disclosed by any means of communication in whole or in part to any person nor used for any purpose other than your involvement in a business relationship with the company.
Candace
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The restrictions in this paragraph do not apply to confidential information which blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. This is a very normal and very thorough confidentiality agreement that, as you can see, Michael Browning signed in addition to Rascal Face at the end. Here is a copy of Rascal Face's intellectual property notice.
Candace
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And here, you can clearly see that it states, Note that any product, process, or technology described in this document may be the subject of other intellectual property rights reserved by Rascal Face LTD slash Skyrider, Thrills, or a third party. No right to use such intellectual property rights is granted hereunder.
Candace
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And many people don't realize just how many beloved brands have been bought out through these types of leveraged buyouts. This is just a small smattering of recent leveraged buyouts, mostly by private equity, but sometimes by public megacorporations as well, as in the example of Kraft Heinz.
Candace
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It was very clear that this is owned by Rascal Face and that it is confidential and that you are not to disclose such things. But, Here is a copy of the patent that was eventually filed and it clearly lists Michael Browning Jr. of Bedford, Texas as the inventor. And you can see the diagrams for the Skyrider. We also have another patent Same thing showing the inventor, Michael Browning Jr.
Candace
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This was originally invented by Cheer, which is another company similar to Rascal Face that had invented these attractions. And then it had been, you know, passed through Leap of Faith Adventures and installed for Urban Air. Here's the trademark on Skyrider owned by Urban Air. As you can see, highlighted in pink, UATP LLC, that's Urban Air Theme Parks, LLC.
Candace
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So when David Evans finally found out about this, naturally, he was pretty surprised. Quote, on October 20th, 2017, I looked up trademark filings for Skyrider online at the United States Patent and Trademark Office. I discovered that UATP had filed for a service mark on the name Skyrider. This was done without my permission and without the permission of anyone at Skyrider. So here...
Candace
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is an email chain showing where our boy Junior claimed that he needed detailed drawings of the Skyrider because the regulators needed them in order to operate the park or they were going to shut it all down. Note the date, Saturday, March 11th at 8.34 a.m. Two days later, he bugged them some more. We need the drawings, quick. March 15th, 2017. That same day, the drawings were sent to him.
Candace
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Note that there are six people copied on this email on March 15th, 2017. Dear Michael, attached is the drawing for Sugarland Hub with black and white colors only. I hope this file is available. Thanks. That same day, Michael forwards this whole email chain with the drawings to two of his attorneys and asks, will these work? Note that no one else has copied on this forward.
Candace
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And we'll get to that right after we drop a big bombshell on the story we started yesterday about Unleashed Brands, Michael Browning Jr., and The Little Jim. All that today on Candace. Today, we're going to start with a brief reminder of what happened to Toys R Us, famously bankrupted by the private equity firm KKR and Bain Capital.
Candace
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I wonder what they could possibly have needed those drawings for. Who knows? I wonder why they only copied two of Michael's lawyers onto the forwarding. And I don't know what they meant when they said, Jeff, will this work? But shortly after that, patents and trademarks were filed.
Candace
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The big boys also realized during these years that forming cozy relationships with big consulting firms is a great way to simultaneously mismanage a company and take absorbent fees while you do it. The consulting industry is ruled by the big three. That would be McKinsey, BCG, and Bain & Company. Some of the big private equity firms even have associated consulting firms or vice versa.
Candace
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So as soon as David Evans became aware of this, many months later, he sent a cease and desist letter to Junior, clearly stating, if you refuse to comply with our suggested course of action in paragraph two of this email, we will have no option but to instruct our lawyers to commence action to revoke and oppose all your applications for the trademark Skyrider.
Candace
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Michael Browning responded saying, oh, no worries, bud. We just filed these patents to protect you and our investment. More or less. You can read the text here if you want to know. In a more formal legal notice, they clarified, "...when investigating the market for Zip Coasters, Urban Air noticed that Rascal Face had no U.S.
Candace
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presence or sales, had taken no steps to obtain patent protection or trademark protection in either the U.K. or its home country or here in the U.S., Urban Air was and is, remains the sole customer here in the US and is working hard to grow the market. While looking into your recent email, Further Investigation found an article from this past October interviewing Mr. Rupert Oliver.
Candace
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That article, published by Global Amusements and Play, confirmed Urban Air's investigation. Mr. Oliver admitted that despite being invented 22 years ago, the Zip Coaster had been a bit of a slow burner. So it all amounts to, in other words, we just noticed that you didn't have the trademarks on it, so we thought we would file it to... Protect it. For you.
Candace
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Today, Urban Air continues to install and use SkyRiders, and kids are falling off of them and suffering life-altering injuries, as we watched on video the other day. And Rascal Face, the original owner, no longer produces them. Weird how that works. He then made sure to brag all about it to his buddies. FYI, we protect our attractions, baby. Thank you, Michael Browning, Urban Air Adventure Parks.
Candace
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Right on. Now, during this time, Michael Browning Jr. had moved Leap of Faith Adventures down to Texas. So they were in an Urban Air owned building. Michael Browning had built them a new website and new emails because he wanted them to appear more competent. At least that's what he said. But this gave him control over almost all of Leap of Faith's infrastructure.
Candace
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And then one day, Leap of Faith alleges that they showed up to work and they claimed they were locked out of their building and locked out of their emails. And this is when Michael Browning Jr. sent emails to all the franchises that owed LOFA money for installations with instructions to pay, but the payment link seemed to secretly link to the Unleashed brand's bank accounts, not Leap of Faith.
Candace
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So we went over this a little bit earlier. So it was kind of like all happening all at once. And when that happened, Jen Siraki was a member of the Franchisee Association at Urban Air, and she had been in it for a while. And she noticed that the banking information was not the same as it used to be. So she went to Garth, the founder of Leap of Faith, and asked what was going on.
Candace
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it looked like they were intercepting a bunch of payments. And regardless of why that happened, the result was that Garth wouldn't be able to afford lawyers if it continued. So during this time, Garth sent this letter to Michael Browning's private equity partners at the time.
Candace
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And as you can see, he lists eight different things that felt egregious to him, reasons why he didn't feel they should continue to work with Urban Air. And I just want to highlight a couple of the last ones, though they're all Pretty wild. Michael and Steven are currently hiring slash raiding LOFA's installation crews, but it's more than that.
Candace
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They've done so to replace us in building franchisee parks, another illegal interference with our agreements with the franchises. And respectfully, we believe they will not perform the work efficiently or competently, which can lead to any number of very bad consequences.
Candace
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It seems like a very drastic stance to destroy key relationships and undermine the only company that has ever built a park over such a small difference. one of our employees was lured away by Urban Air, has hired a very large law firm in Texas to file an extremely silly lawsuit against Leap of Faith.
Candace
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McKinsey & Company has MIO partners. Bain Capital spun off Bain & Company, which are obviously totally separate companies. And although they sometimes work together, they would never collude or do anything below board. Never. This is actually exactly what was happening to GameStop leading into the 2021 short squeeze that rocked the world.
Candace
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If anyone thinks one of our crew chiefs can afford to hire a large law firm to sue us and that Stephen and Michael aren't paying for it, I've got a big bridge I'd like to sell them. I think our lawyers will be able to prove that this is just another step by them to try and destroy Leap of Faith. So from Garth's perspective,
Candace
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It didn't feel like Michael Browning was there to be a partner in much of anything. And he filed this whole big injunction, the one we've been reading a bunch from, because he thought that Michael was trying to steal his company. So Garth files for this injunction to stop Browning from doing whatever he was doing, and Michael received it.
Candace
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Much of what we read today was from that motion for injunction, which has never been seen by anyone outside of the case before now. And Michael Browning Jr. went to massive lengths to ensure that no one would ever see it. Whoopsies! Because Michael Browning Jr. and his team of lawyers just kept dragging the case on and on, Garth was unfortunately bled into bankruptcy.
Candace
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Several of Garth's lawyers took this case on contingency, which means they're so sure you're going to win that they take the case without pay because they're going to get paid when you win. They fought for over two years and still hadn't even made it to discovery.
Candace
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The section where they go over all the ways that Browning and his lawyers extended, disobeyed, and drew out the courts is way too long to cover. It's pages and pages and pages long. And that's because Junior just kept throwing money at the case, filing appeals over and over to every level of court that they could in Texas. That's likely three different levels right up to the Texas Supreme Court.
Candace
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And we're talking sometimes like $50,000 to $70,000 per instance. This stuff costs a lot of money for Michael Browning, but also for Garth Price. And the balance of power is clearly not even in that relationship. And eventually, they bled Garth dry, and he had to settle, and Unleashed Brands paid Garth $5 million.
Candace
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But most of it, if not all of it, probably went to the lawyers that he'd been using for over two years to defend himself against this lawfare. And so the actual case never even made it to conclusion. It never even made it into discovery whatsoever. And Garth never had a chance to prove any of these claims that he made in this document. And to be clear, they are all just claims.
Candace
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They are not proven out in a court of law today. In all of this, Stephen Polizola was the lawyer leading the charge for Urban Air and Michael Browning Jr. Prior to this, he was a private lawyer at Decker Jones, not a huge law firm that specialized in contractor law. And he was a small fish that mostly just worked in getting people to pay money in contractor law.
Candace
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When he came on with Browning, he didn't take pay, but instead took ownership share. And he's been instrumental to everything Michael Browning Jr. and Unleashed Brands has done. And now his considerable fortune is inextricably tied to the success of Michael Browning Jr. and Unleashed Brands.
Candace
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And I want to bring him back up for a second, too, because it's important as we go forward with the story to remember that. that he is registered with the State Bar of Texas. He has a duty to fulfill, and lawyers, attorneys, take on certain oaths.
Candace
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Their board of directors had been infiltrated and they had hired BCG to consult them on the way down. GameStop said that BCG showed prioritization of excessive fees over clients' interests. And Ryan Cohen, who was the white knight who bought his way into GameStop right before the 2021 squeeze, he knew what they were doing. And he kicked out the corrupt board members and fired BCG.
Candace
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And as we go through this story, we're going to remind us all of the oaths and the duties that people like Stephen have to America, to the Constitution, and to the justice system. But we don't have time today or even in a million years to cover all of Polozola's shadiness. And we've already covered so much insane ground. So we're going to leave it here for today.
Candace
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Because that's how Urban Air and Unleashed Brands was born. That's how it was transformed from a sad little trampoline park into a nationwide super chain. And then an umbrella corporation that targeted specifically child-centric businesses like toddler gyms.
Candace
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And when that's your origin story, and now you're flying around in your private jet, rubbing shoulders with the big boys, I can only imagine what you might do to cover it up. Actually, I have documentation showing what he did to cover it up, but we'll continue with that. And get on to Tiffany's story next week.
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Call American Financing today, 800-795-1210. That's 800-795-1210. Or visit AmericanFinancing.net slash Owens. All right. You might have heard that the Episcopal Church refused to settle white Afrikaners, citing moral opposition.
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The Episcopal Church announced on Monday that it is terminating its partnership with the government to resettle refugees, citing moral opposition to resettling white Afrikaners from South Africa who have been classified as refugees by President Trump's administration.
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And in a letter sent to members of the church, the Most Reverend Sean W. Rowe, who is the presiding bishop of the Episcopal Church, said that two weeks ago, the government informed Episcopal Migration Ministries that under the terms of our federal grant, we are expected to resettle white Afrikaners from South Africa, whom the U.S. government has classified as refugees.
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The request, Roe said, crossed a moral line for the Episcopal Church, which is part of the global Anglican communion, which boasts among its leaders the late Archbishop Desmond Tutu, a celebrated and vocal opponent of apartheid in South Africa.
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Roe wrote, Accordingly, we have determined that by the end of the federal fiscal year, we will conclude our refugee resettlement grant agreements with the U.S. federal government.
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Roe stressed that while Episcopal Migration Ministries will seek to wind down all federally funded services by the end of the federal fiscal year in September, the denomination will continue to support immigrants and refugees in other ways, such as offering aid to refugees who have already been resettled. Here is Reverend Sean W. Roe discussing it on ABC News on Monday.
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He was very vocal on his Twitter, talking literally about BCG and this practice. The exact same playbook happened at Bed Bath & Beyond recently, including selling off all their real estate and forcing them to lease back their own buildings shortly before driving them into bankruptcy. But that's a whole different story.
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Racial justice, but only for certain races. Despite how funny his voice in that clip is, I think it's important for us all to remember there's some middle ground in these issues. And there's a lot of these issues like this around the world right now. People fighting over land and fighting over whose land it is and people dying, innocent people dying.
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And whether it's South Africa or whether it's Israel, wherever it is, I think that every side could use a little more understanding of the other side's humanity. And yeah, South Africa has a long history of brutal violence from white people towards black people. But that does not give us reason to recycle that violence into violence from black people towards white people.
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That only extends these cycles. And the same is true in Israel and Palestine. The same is true everywhere that it happens. I would love to remind us all to have a little humanity and just advocate for not killing innocent people. Please.
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He also made a great point about all the Afghani people that helped us during the Afghanistan invasion, brave people that turned on terrorists in order to help us in the region. Those people were left in the lurch at no fault of their own. And I got to say, I would I would be willing to listen to the arguments about accepting some of that. But that's neither here nor there because the U.S.
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government's left them and they're still there. Anyways, that announcement came just as flights with Afrikaners were scheduled to arrive at Washington Dulles International Airport outside Washington, D.C., and the first batch of entries after Trump declared via a February executive order that the U.S. would take in Afrikaners in South Africa who are victims of unjust racial discrimination.
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The South African government has stridently denied allegations of systemic racial animus, Rowe noted his announcement comes as the Trump administration has otherwise all but frozen the refugee program with Afrikaners among the few and possibly the only people granted entry as refugees since January.
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Shortly after he was sworn in, Trump signed an executive order that essentially halted the refugee program and stopped payments to organizations that assist with refugee resettlement.
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Ashley Allison, the former deputy director and senior policy advisor for the Obama White House Office of Public Engagement, was on CNN discussing how the white Afrikaners should go back to their native land in Europe.
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I mention all of that just to show that this is a pattern for private equity and the big boys that will do just about anything to grow their wallets. And now back to our boy, Michael Browning Jr. You know, this guy who owns the trampoline park company where yesterday we saw videos of kids falling off of rides and getting seriously injured. You might think it's not his fault.
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They are. They're leaving to come. No, no.
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Are you against them coming? You notice how she was about to say they got their rights back through a revolution. Oh, don't call it a revolution through ending apartheid. And I don't mean like I want to be clear. I'm not laughing at the situation because it's a horrible situation. I'm laughing at the newscasters because of who they are. The actual situation is horrible and it's a tragedy.
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And anytime that innocent people are dying, it's a tragedy. And it bums me out when I see newscasters being flippant about the plight of regular people that had nothing to do with the grievances that are coming down to them.
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Speaking of Israel-Palestine, The Guardian reported Netanyahu must now work for support of U.S. as Trump tires of Israel's war in Gaza. Trump's Middle East envoy, Steve Witkoff, did not mince his words in a meeting late on Sunday with former hostages and relatives of those still held in Gaza. He told them Israel is drawing out a war the U.S. wants to end, local media reported.
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On the eve of the release of Idan Alexander, the last living American being held by Hamas, Witkoff spelled out the gulf between his boss and the government of Benjamin Netanyahu. Quote, We want to bring the hostages home, but Israel is not willing to end the war. Israel is prolonging it, despite the fact that we don't see where else we can go and that an agreement must be reached.
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That's all according to Channel 12 television and sources that were apparently present at the time. That was just the latest in a series of high profile and high stakes snubs from the White House, which seems to suggest that Israel's most important ally is a little unhappy with the government of Israel and possibly even losing interest in its fortunes.
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He's just running a business and sometimes his employees make mistakes. Could be. That would be reasonable to assume if we were talking about most people. But today we're gonna take a look at how he founded Urban Air through the absolute cannibalization and then apparently the outright theft of another man's work. That man is Garth Price and his life's work was leap of faith adventures.
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Quote, Trump's not against Israel, but he doesn't care about Israel, said Alon Pincus, a former Israeli diplomat. As far as Trump is concerned, Netanyahu has become an irritant and an irritant that doesn't contribute to the bank account. On April 25th, while on his way to Pope Francis' funeral, Trump had this to say about Gaza and his meeting with Bibi Netanyahu.
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That's good to hear, honestly. And that's not an endorsement of Hamas. That's him talking about aid for civilians, helping regular civilians survive. Per the Times of Israel, this was the first time Trump had publicly weighed in on the issue of humanitarian aid for Gaza.
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The revelation of the discussion between Netanyahu and Trump came shortly after the World Food Program said it had run out of food stocks in Gaza due to the sustained closure of crossings into the enclave. The WFP said in a statement to journalists, quote, no humanitarian or commercial supplies have entered Gaza for more than seven weeks as all main border crossing points remain closed.
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This is the longest closure the Gaza Strip has ever faced, exacerbating already fragile markets and food systems. So to close out that story, I'm just glad that we're talking about helping the civilians. I'm glad we're talking about getting aid to the innocent people that are in the middle of this conflict. And I'm glad to hear Trump saying those things the way he did.
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But that's not the only thing that Trump is up to right now, because according to CNBC, the White House just announced $600 billion Saudi investment in the U.S. during Trump's visit. President Donald Trump on Tuesday praised Saudi Arabia and its leaders after the White House announced a commitment by the kingdom to invest $600 billion in a series of deals with the United States.
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Trump also announced at an investment forum in Riyadh that he will order the removal of all U.S. sanctions against Syria in order to give them a chance at greatness. Trump's speech at the investment conference followed him signing a number of bilateral agreements during a state visit with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. Here's part of his speech at that Saudi U.S. investment forum.
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And a side note here, In trying to find photos of Garth and Leap of Faith Adventures, this video that we're about to show you was just about the only thing I could even find publicly available online because he and his business have been so thoroughly erased by Michael Browning Jr. and the story we're about to tell.
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I can just picture Alex Jones right now going, Death blow to the globalists!
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And I love Alex, and I'm hoping he's doing that right now, because that speech is an outright condemnation of... the globalists, of the interventionalists, of the profiteers off of war, of the people that have been running the world, apparently. But it is important to remember he's in Saudi Arabia giving a speech to the Saudis.
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And I would love to hear him come and give that speech to all the boys in Congress that made money off of rebuilding after the Iraq war and after Afghanistan. And we'll see, because Trump is saying a lot of stuff that I think a lot of people did not expect him to say. Doing a lot of things I think a lot of people did not expect him to do.
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And I can't wait to see what Twitter is going to say about it. So that's all for today. I'll have to read your comments on Twitter about that and all the rest of the things we talked about later. Don't forget to like the episode, subscribe to the show, and share it with all your friends. Drink some water. Do something healthy for yourself. And we'll see you tomorrow.
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So I want you to just Remember that man. He's going to be central to this whole story. And we're going to be telling the story of his company and how it went down today. And I also want you to remember that that is what a founder looks like. That's what a man that founded his business on his own interests, his own passion, his own hard work looks like.
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Because now I want to introduce you to the two bombshells. The two documents that are going to guide a lot of our reporting today and are going to inform all the rest of Unleashed Brand's actions against Tiffany Cianci and all the other people involved in this scandal. This is a motion for sanctions and a motion for injunction and restraining order.
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On the right, you have the temporary injunction and permanent injunction request. And on the left, you have the motion for sanctions. The judge granted the motion for injunction while the case was litigated. And the judge extended that injunction eight times.
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And a little bit of background on injunctions, just for anyone that doesn't know, an injunction is the highest legal standard that you can achieve in a lot of ways. Because it's used to stop someone immediately from doing something that is irreversible, such as a lethal injection. In this case, it was because they were apparently stealing his business.
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And once his business is taken from him, he will never get it back. And he also won't be able to litigate anymore. So it's extremely hard to meet the requirements for an injunction. And in this case, the judge granted the injunction and then further renewed it eight times, which is generally unheard of. A judge would only grant an injunction in the first place if it clearly had merit.
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And this one was renewed eight times until later Garth just didn't have any money left to fight. Two years after that first injunction, the document on the right, Garth, Price, and Leap of Faith Adventures filed the motion for sanctions, which is on the left. But they were already almost out of money and had to settle shortly after that was filed.
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So much of what we're going to read today is from right at the end of the line, right before it all crashed down around him. And that's why it includes so much information, because it was after everything had already transpired. But it's important to clarify that this case never won out in a court of law and never even had time and money to even be fully tried.
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Because it's important to highlight just how much private equity will do for profit and how little they care about who they hurt while they do it. Before private equity bought them out, Toys R Us had $1.8 billion of debt. After private equity was done with them, they were loaded with more than $5 billion of debt. By 2007, interest expenses consumed 97% of their profit.
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So these are simply allegations made against Urban Air by LOFA. Before LOFA, Leap of Faith Adventures, Urban Air was, let's just say, not a very successful company. To quote, despite growing the UATP concept to eight parks over its four and a quarter years of operation, UATP is Urban Air Theme Parks, the business still only realized annual revenue of $807,000 with a net income of $168,329.
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for the year ending December 31st, 2015. That is a very small number. If you're running eight big theme parks and you're only netting 168,000. So it was literally just trampolines and video games. Michael Browning was still working a day job and he had built all of that on his daddy's money. But then, Michael brought Leap of Faith Adventures in, and Urban Air was completely transformed.
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So, to be clear, these two men founded their businesses in the same year independently. One founded his business with hard work, relationship building, and division. The other founded his business with daddy's money and a distinct need for validation.
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So Leap of Faith Adventures gave Urban Air all of their attractions, all of their new brand identity, everything that your kid thinks of as Urban Air today, that was installed by Leap of Faith Adventures because this is what Leap of Faith Adventures did. They were a company that installed these types of rides and attractions for these types of parks.
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And they did it by forming relationships with the people that invented these different rides and attractions and then creating bringing that technology and those attractions in and installing them for the business like Urban Air. Fast forward to the end of 2016. UATP's business model was now dramatically different.
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Leap of Faith's hard work, experience, and expertise made the Urban Air model scalable and reproducible, allowing Urban Air to open 13 new parks in a single year and expand its previously limited attraction selection. Remember, eight parks across the whole founding, then 13 parks in a single year,
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So in short, Leap of Faith enabled Urban Air to grow and made its franchise a more attractive investment opportunity. Browning extended the following offer to Leap of Faith. Urban Air would send its franchisees business exclusively to Leap of Faith for the sales and installations of attractions. But in return, Leap of Faith would remit 70% of the net profits to Urban Air on top of profit sharing.
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Urban Air also promised to provide Leap of Faith with back office services to assist with the influx of associated business in exchange for Leap of Faith's agreeing to pay $1,000 per park fee for those services. But Urban Air later increased that fee to $2,000 per park. And that service, back office services, will become very relevant later.
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It included two main items, a semi-dedicated back office managerial and accounting employee, Abby Crowley, and the procurement setup and hosting of a private web domain for Leap of Faith. Browning insisted Leap of Faith needed a more professional email address, so Urban Air purchased for $11.86 and hosted the lofadv.com email domain for Leap of Faith.
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Leap of Faith understood and expected, however, that the lofadv.com account would be maintained as Leap of Faith's private business account. That will become very relevant later in this case. And so just to clear this up and make it obvious, they agreed to this profit-sharing agreement because Leap of Faith was getting all kinds of business and Urban Air was getting everything.
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Amazon was a juggernaut that spelled the demise of traditional retail stores, and in 2017, roughly 7,000 stores and 50,000 jobs evaporated. Between 2015 and 2017, of the 43 large retailers and supermarket companies that filed for bankruptcy, more than 40% were owned by private equity firms.
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Leap of Faith's work was predicated upon significant investment, including 375 hours of employee training on installations, building codes, ADA compliance, OSHA, and other on-the-job training to learn. Leap of Faith's investment, however, was recognized and lauded by the attraction manufacturers.
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It built and installed more than 45 parks during its tenure from 2016 to 2018, compared to mere eight parks UATP had accomplished from its inception in 2013 to the end of 2015. And you start to see how relevant it is that Michael Browning would later start flying in Chinese labor to install his new parks when this is the type of costs associated with doing it correctly.
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And Leap of Faith was very particular about doing it correctly. Browning, at this point, emailed his dad and said, quote, Garth just wired $75,000. That's a good way to end a Friday. In a month's time, Urban Air was earning as much or more in rebates as it had earned as an operator of eight parks the entire prior year, 2015.
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So you can't overstate how much of a transformation this was for Michael Browning's business. And it's also worth noting how apparently attached to his daddy's opinion Michael Browning Jr. is. We'll continue with the story in a second, but first, I want to take a quick second to tell you about Smile. Have you seen the latest fluoride headlines in the water supply?
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Urban Air started spending on extravagances, including buying a company plane. Once Browning got a taste of real revenues, he sought to increase his revenue share, all at the expense of Leap of Faith. By April of 2017, a mere year and a half into the partnership, Browning was already seeking to alter Urban Air's 70-30 arrangement with Leap of Faith.
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Browning wrote, "...I am trying to modify the arrangement and therefore the statement about 70% will no longer be accurate." Quote, percentage was subject to change. Browning consistently operated to limit Leap of Faith's income while expanding Urban Air's own.
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But what's worse, private equity has started to master the art of the leveraged buyout, where they don't actually put up the money to buy a business, but instead just take out a loan using the business they are about to buy, but don't yet own, and they use that as a collateral to secure that loan.
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If you were junior, a nepo baby with an extremely successful father like Browning Sr., what would you do to protect your newfound success, your new private plane, your new access to the big boys club? Would you censor journalists and publications? Would you forge documents or commit perjury? Would you hire felons to do your dirty work or compel a woman to have an abortion?
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Would you plant drugs or harm children or terrorize small business owners or bankrupt veterans? And I'm not saying that Michael Browning Jr. or anyone else did those things. I'm just posing you the question, if you had made your millions, how far would you go to keep them, okay? Michael Browning Jr. offered to move Leap of Faith's whole team from Ohio to Texas.
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And Leap of Faith had all the relationships. Leap of Faith had all the connections to everyone that had invented these various rides and was selling them through Leap of Faith to Urban Air. They also had all the expertise that made this transformation possible. So it wasn't long before Jr. tried to alter their profit sharing agreements and take in more money from the partnership.
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And now that Junior had an expanding business, he started to shop around among interested private equity investors. Quote, in response, Polozola drafted a letter informing Price that Urban Air and its prospective partners wanted to bring Leap of Faith in-house and make him Urban Air's vice president of attractions.
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The Daily Wire is going bankrupt, allegedly, and Jeremy Boring is officially out as CEO. That's right. The self-proclaimed god king of The Daily Wire is at the heart of so many scandals. And yes, he is self-described as the god king. And the email just went out today internally that he is stepping down and now Axios is covering the story.
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It has not yet broken, as far as I'm aware, that private equity is moving in and looking to buy up The Daily Wire. I heard rumor mill that Silver Lake Capital is looking to buy them up. And yo Silver Lake, you guys might want to watch this video before you think too hard about it. Because there's a lot that is not in the public square right now.
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We're about to get into stuff like canceled credit cards, lying to the press, trying to trick Tim Pool. As far as I can tell from my sources, even people inside of the Daily Wire only know part of the story and they're all kind of getting played against each other. It's a whole mess.
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And the most important part of this mess is that the Daily Wire has a long history of treating their employees like sh**.
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and so i've had numerous sources inside the daily wire for quite some time because everyone hates them even their own people they're portraying it as though jeremy boring is willingly stepping back to work on creative projects like the pendragon cycle and it'll remain with the company an advisory role my sources are telling me that the pendragon cycle is being moved off-site and out of the daily wires physical purview because they're not letting jeremy boring back in the building right now apparently
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Jeremy Boring was 100% allegedly forced out, not a willing leave. Like even Ben Shapiro and Jeremy Boring, it sounds like there's a huge rift between them from what I'm hearing. There's even rumors that I can't confirm quite yet that Ben Shapiro hired his own PR person like months ago.
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And you remember when Tim Pool was like kind of like rearranging his business and all sorts of weird stuff was happening there? I don't even know if Tim knows this yet directly, but it sounds like The Daily Wire was trying to manipulate him into buying The Daily Wire and trying to present it as super profitable.
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The rumors I'm hearing is that Jeremy Boring thought Tim Pool would be dumb enough to fall for it and he was the exact kind of guy they could sell to. I heard that they allegedly offered him an all stock deal, which would be worth because their stock is worthless because they're bankrupt, allegedly.
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Welcome back to Candace, everyone. My name is Ian Carroll, and welcome to the first episode where I'll be filling in for Candace while she spends time with baby Roman. Later on, we'll have updates on Candace and baby Roman, and a crazy story of her hospital being evil.
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that the woman in that video made purposeful note that the harness didn't seem to be put on correctly. And that's because these rides are not staffed correctly because, A, Urban Air hires children under the age of 18, 16 and 17-year-olds, and you would think that you'd need a couple of them to staff these rides. But there's documentation that seems to show that, quote,
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Michael discussed reducing the number of attendants from two to one on the Skyrider attraction, stating that eliminating an employee from an attraction can save a park $10,000 per year. That very same weekend in Ahwatukee, the Skyrider attraction had one employee working when a major accident occurred. In LOFA's opinion, this short-term cost segmentality is a major concern.
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You might notice LOFA is Leap of Faith Adventures. The company that I had mentioned had originally designed this ride. The company that I had mentioned It appeared that maybe Unleashed Brands and Michael Browning Jr. might have done something nefarious to take that patent and that attraction from Leap of Faith Adventures. And now Leap of Faith Adventures is unfortunately no more.
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But this document, as well as several others that we have, are actually from when Leap of Faith Adventures started. took them to court because they were not okay with what was being done with their rides, the ways they were being set up, the ways they were being run, and they made specific claims about what was going on.
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That's not to mention that there's evidence that seems to suggest, both human testimony as well as email testimony, that Unleashed Brands was flying in Chinese nationals to put together their adventure parks because it was cheaper than paying American labor. You know, doesn't
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really strike me as the kind of thing that's safe when you're putting together all sorts of rides and dangerous equipment that children are going to be playing on, but it is cheaper. I'll give them that. So, What Tiffany Cianci and all of the other franchisees at the Little Gym have been through has been horrendous.
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Now, this is called the Skyrider attraction, and it's going to play a big part in today's story. But I just wanted to jump in really quickly and give you a disclaimer that the next part of this clip is pretty traumatic, and it doesn't show anything extremely graphic.
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It has been a multi-year process of intimidation and of coercion and of very complicated changes to their businesses that do not benefit them or their children. At least that's how they see it. But... There's a darker and deeper side of the story. And that's when you start to realize that private equity is a team. It's a club. And they are all friends together.
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And none of them really want the boat to be rocked. And so when Tiffany started rocking the boat, when Tiffany stood up to these people and organized with her other franchisees, and then when she wouldn't go away and be silenced, they decided that they were going to make an example out of her. And they have done a number of things over the years, things that are almost unspeakable.
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And we don't have time to speak of all of them because there are so many. But perhaps the most unspeakable or at least the most inhumane that was done to Tiffany was captured in court during one of her depositions. And... I'm going to let her speak for herself, but I do want you to know that this is going to be hard to watch, especially if you're a mother.
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But this is what happened to Tiffany Cianci.
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But if you're a parent or you have young kids, this is going to be very hard to watch and listen to because they were not expecting their day to go like this.
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Also, Trump goes after Big Pharma, Diddy starts his trial, and claims the freak-offs were all consensual, and the internet is losing its mind over Macron and his buddies allegedly getting caught with a baggie of Coke. But first, a scandal that started at kids' birthday parties at Urban Air Adventure Parks is blowing up in a massive way.
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So that's where we wound up, all because Michael Browning Jr. wanted to be a big boy like his daddy and run a giant... empire of children's focused franchises. And when those franchises spoke up and said that this is not how you run a toddler gym, this is not how you run a martial arts academy, they stomped down. The problem was they stomped down on the wrong woman.
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And Tiffany Cianci would not give up and would not die. And she is still fighting to this day. And by the way, those email chains that she mentioned, yeah. We got them and they're all right there. And yes, they do clearly say exactly what Tiffany was alleging on that stand in that deposition. And a running theme throughout this whole thing will be that when you're in arbitration,
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Let's just say there's not really consequences for lying as long as you're on the team of the big boys. There's not really consequences for your lawyers not following the law, for the judges not following the law, because it's all a system for profit and it's all being paid for. And one team has millions and millions and millions of dollars to throw at the lawsuit.
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And the other team is guaranteed to go hundreds of thousands of dollars into debt until they can't fight anymore and are forced to give up and give in. But Tiffany took to TikTok a few years ago and I found her story way back then early on. And she has been fighting ever since. And she's fought all alone for much of it.
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But eventually she grew a little bit of support and a little bit more and a little bit more. And she's won enough of her cases, including a defamation suit by now, that now there's all of this new documentation coming out.
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almost everything that we've shown today has never been out before and there is way more where that came from and there are way more people involved in this thing ready to talk about it because this goes not just all across unleash brands and throughout many of their businesses but this goes well beyond unleash brands out into the entire private equity world because when you give billionaire businesses like these private equity monsters sort of a free reign to stomp all over the little guy
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you better believe they're going to take that opportunity and run all the way to the bank with it. And they've been running to the bank with it for so long that let's just say the little guys have had enough. So, That is where Tiffany stands today. She is currently in court and there's a lot more to talk about as far as what's going on there.
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But we just heard just recently that one of these secret arbitrations, because all of these cases of children getting hurt, falling off of rides at the adventure park, as well as Tiffany's entire case in court, secret arbitration about her toddler, Jim, all of it's in secret. And so none of them could speak up until just recently. And so all these guys, the team over at Unleashed Brands,
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So that little girl, unfortunately, suffered a punctured lung, a traumatic brain injury, broken bones, and permanent disability, including learning deficits, hearing loss. And her injuries are still uncertain and sustained to this day. They have been in secret arbitration up until... right now. And this is just one poor little girl's story at Urban Air.
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Michael Browning Sr., who is not just daddy. He's on some of those filings. Norman Leon, Michael Browning Jr., Laura Sixkiller, Stephen Polozola, all these guys that are written on all these forms, that are involved in all these depositions, that are on these cases. They're going to come back up. And we're just going to look at what they did and what they're doing and see why would you do that.
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Because ultimately... You should stay away from our toddlers and you should stay away from our little chimps. And we want our kids to grow up in a place where they can be treated like children and not like numbers for profit. So that's the start of that story for now. That's all we got for today.
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But there was a funny incident after the hospital because Candice, naturally, after he had a healthy baby and she was feeling great, she left before the recommended 48-hour holding time. Not sure why they need you to stay there for 48 hours and take all their little medicines and get all their ointments that they prescribe.
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Obviously, she did not give baby Roman all these, you know, shots like hepatitis B, vitamin K, azithromycin, all these things. Department of Child Services shows up at her house doing more or less a wellness visit, asking her all sorts of questions. Why did you leave the hospital early?
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And she wanted to clarify when she was communicating the story to us that the person that visited was perfectly nice and just doing their job. But they were doing the job of going out and more or less saying, pressuring mothers into, you should have gotten these things and why are you leaving?
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And it just is a part of this whole pharmaceutical medical complex cartel of pressuring people into getting the drugs, getting the shots, getting the vaccines. And Candace obviously being based was like, no, thanks. Bye. I'm doing great. Go away. So Candace will be back at some point to give us updates to tell us how she's doing. She'll jump into the show from time to time while she's on leave.
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But she's doing awesome. And she says hi to all of you. So next on to the Diddy trial. Yesterday, the Diddy trial got underway to a slightly late start. The jury got sworn in. Opening statements were read.
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uh funny anecdote where the prosecution struck seven black jurors um and the defense was trying to call them racist and it became this whole thing ultimately the judge sustained their motion to strike those jurors um you know i'm not trying to make a comment on that i just thought it was funny the way that it got reported on um
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But unfortunately, it is very much not the only story like this. And today, I wanted to tell you a story about Urban Air because Urban Air is a very small piece of a very big picture. And it starts with a man named Michael Browning. Michael Browning is the son...
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But then it turned out that victim three, unknown, we don't know who it is, but victim three apparently is missing. Just a few weeks ago, victim three came forward or didn't come forward, but said that they were willing to testify in the trial. And though we don't know who it is, it obviously was important to the case because they were going to put victim three on the stand.
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And then just before this all came together and before Diddy took the stand, victim three apparently was out of communication and we do not know where they are. My thought immediately went to the girl Allie that is sharing all the salacious stuff. I went and looked her up and she's still posting on TikTok. It's not her. So I don't know what to make of it. I don't know who victim three is.
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I'm sure we can all come up with some crazy conspiracy theories about what's going on there. Diddy's side is hoping for a mistrial just because they don't have one of their witnesses. That is extremely unlikely, but it is possibly going to cause some delays and it might actually impact the ability to prosecute Diddy.
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I presume that Diddy is pulling out all the stops as we've heard reportings of private investigators looking into people and people being pressured or influenced by his family members and just all sorts of shady, shady, shady, shady, shady. And it's Diddy. So what did you expect? It's also worth noting that Maureen Comey, the daughter of James Comey, is on the prosecution team.
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She also recently served as the lead prosecutor for Ghislaine Maxwell. So it's just a funny small club of people up here. And ultimately, that's what I really want to talk about here is that as you might expect, nothing really seems like it's going to come out of this. And that's because this is not the case that we were all hoping for them to try. We got on this case.
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I mean, if you've been really following it since Cassie and before, yeah, there's a lot going on here. But when the Lil Rod lawsuit dropped and most of us kind of caught wind of Diddy and what was going on,
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The case was that Lil Rod's lawsuit seemed to imply and allege that this was a sexual blackmail operation and that all of Diddy's homes were wired up with secret cameras recording everything that happened. And that Lucy and Grange and Universal Music Group were named in that lawsuit originally. Except then they mysteriously disappeared off the lawsuit forever. No answers as to why.
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That was the lawyer for Lil Rod that took them off saying that there was no evidence that they were involved. I'm sure that it was just a big mistake that they got named in the first place, despite the fact that in the evidence in the testimony or in the allegations in it, like,
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It clearly says that Lucy and Grange was at the parties, that Lucy and Grange had every reason to know what was happening at the parties, that he had private visits with Diddy in the evenings at his home where they disappear into his room for extended periods of time. But, you know, when you're the big boy at the top, you don't get looked into. You don't take the stand.
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You don't get the dirt on you. And when I was talking to the team earlier, they made me aware that I did not even know that there's a whole backstory on Lucien Grange and his big daddy. And oh boy, is that another dig for another day. But I just wanted to point out that
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The more the Diddy trials progressed, the more they seemed to depart from what was actually really being shown and suspicious in the first place, which was what seemed to be a trafficking ring with what seemed to be blackmail involved with what absolutely for sure was this
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of let's just say a very wealthy man, also named Michael Browning, who is famous in the Indianapolis real estate development scene and the founder and chief partner of Browning. But his son, you know, Michael Browning Jr., grows up in this lifestyle and wants to, you know, be like dad, I presume, and be a big, a big shot.
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shall we say, the ex-head of security of Michael Jackson somehow becoming the head of security for a trafficking operation, a blackmail ring for drugs, for whatever he's doing for Diddy. Everything about this operation stank, not to mention the property he had on the border of Mexico.
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So I'm not too optimistic about what's going to come out of the Diddy trial itself, but I am hoping that we'll at least see some dirt thrown on some other celebrities, some cracks open up in other parts of the industry that hopefully will... Let's just say tip over a few dominoes because there's a lot of dominoes ready to fall.
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And it's worth noting, too, that it's not just the Lil Rod lawsuit that has made these allegations. These allegations are widespread in the industry, both from people that have worked alongside Diddy in the music world, as well as from bodyguards like Gene Deal.
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And he's, you know, had some rhetoric and he's had some stuff to say about pricing for a while.
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But he just recently dropped a new executive order that, as far as I can tell, is like a silver bullet against big pharma that is going to take away a huge amount of their revenue stream, as well as a kneecap, an entire shadow industry that is the PBMs that just siphons money out from in between as a middleman in the pharma world.
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It is now on the White House website officially, today's executive order. And if you read in section five, it details specifically what it calls most favored nation price targets. And this is something that Trump has referenced before, but it has never really gotten, he never was able to get it through.
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And there you can see at the bottom of the first paragraph, communicate most favored nation price targets to pharmaceutical manufacturers to bring prices for American patients in line with comparably developed nations.
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Now, when Trump put out a true social post about this just the other day, he said, we're going to bring the prices down to the lowest of any nation there is, meaning that if in Zimbabwe, they're paying a dollar per pill, then in America, we pay only a dollar per pill, whatever the lowest price around the world is.
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And so after founding a couple of companies in 2011, he founds this company called Urban Air and it's an adventure park, right? And he's growing Urban Air Adventure Parks, you know, with the goal of being a big shot, like his dad, I would presume.
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That language has been modified a little bit so that in the actual executive order, now Americans are mandated apparently to, we get to pay whatever the lowest price of any other developed nation, which is awesome because right now, We're getting grifted so hard.
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Right now, Americans are paying more than just about any other nation in the world, often by multiples of 2, 5, or even 10x what other countries are paying for the exact same products. Also, in Section 4, he seems to enable direct-to-consumer sales from the pharmaceutical manufacturers at the most favored nation price.
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which is really interesting because, I mean, let's just say I've never been there. I'm no pharmaceutical expert. But from what I'm reading there, that seems to be very much a death blow to a vast portion of pharma's profits. And, I mean, I don't know what to make of that other than extreme optimism because that's not all. He also was going after the PBMs, the Pharmacy Benefit Managers.
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He ordered RFK to facilitate programs for pharma manufacturers to sell direct consumers at the best nation price. If you're not familiar, these PBMs, pharmacy benefit managers, they're companies that manage prescription drug benefits and health insurers and employers. And they just kind of like middleman in between the whole system.
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And they just take a huge cut out from the middle, like an insanely huge cut. PBMs are over a trillion dollars a year in combined revenue, according to an FTC report, I think from last year, maybe from 2023. Yeah.
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Um, so I mean a lot's going on here and I'm sure that a lot of people far smarter than me will have all kinds of takes, but I'd be surprised if anyone has any take that is not positive because I mean, we all love big pharma, right? So anyways, speaking of drugs again, a couple of the big boys got caught allegedly with a little baggie of drugs. But is that really the story that's going on here?
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I'm sure you've seen by now, I mean, if you have an ex-account, you've definitely seen. And if you don't have an ex-account, you've still probably seen. Macron just squirreling away the little bag of whiteness on his table and all that stuff that's been taking over the internet and everyone's making funny memes and AI videos of them dancing and whatever else.
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He eventually, in 2018, gets a whole bunch of private equity funding and expands his business rapidly all around the United States from 45 parks at the time up well over 100. They initially got investment from Ross Perot's private equity firm, MPK Partners. And they took them from just a small business in the Indianapolis area to a nationwide chain. And they started franchising.
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And yeah, he grabs his little bag and sleuths it away. But like... Let's just pump the brakes for a second here, guys. It might be a tissue. Like, it really might be a tissue. And, like, maybe it's a bag of drugs. Like, a really big bag of drugs. Like, just so you... Like, that's a lot of drugs. And just on the... Like, maybe.
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But regardless, even if it's a bag of drugs or it's a tissue, you can argue about that all day long. And, yeah, it's a funny scandal. Whatever. But, um... That's Emmanuel Macron. And if you don't recall, he's married to a dude. And in case you're not up to date on the story and all the other implications of that story,
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There's a whole series that Candace Owens made on this very YouTube channel that you could watch yourself and you might learn all about how Emmanuel Macron married his much, much, much older teacher that was not always a woman and might have even possibly one day been in his very same family. That seems a lot more scandalous than world leaders doing cocaine, which I'm sure they probably all do.
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And they might even all do right before the media comes into their room to do interviews with them. We've all seen the images or the videos of Zelensky and Ardern just going all sniffly sniffly. We've seen it, and I'm sure it's happening. But ultimately... The scandal is that he's married to a dude and that that implies all sorts of other things that we want answers to. So, yeah.
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That's the story about the drugs. It's fun, but let's be real. It kind of feels like a distraction, guys. Let's keep our eyes on the bigger prize, like the Illuminati controlling the world through a crazy... I'm sorry. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Anyways. That's about it for our episode today. I think that about wraps us up. I really appreciate you guys coming to hang out.
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I really appreciate the whole team bringing me in and welcoming me to the studio. I cannot wait to learn from them, to learn from all the crazy rabbit holes that they've been down, and to share them all with you. If you haven't already remembered, please like the video, share the video, subscribe to the channel. And I'll make sure that Candace comes and pops in to say hi before too long here.
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But for now, have a great night and we'll see you tomorrow.
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Franchising allowed Michael Browning Jr. to expand this business out and allow other people to buy into his franchise and to have Urban Airs opening all around the country and to have those businesses opened by local people that wanted to change their lives and their community by starting a business and buying into the Urban Air franchise.
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This is the story of franchising and it is the bedrock of the American economy in a lot of ways because it's a fundamental way that people... start a business and not only change their own lives and their family's lives, but also elevate their community. Franchising, unfortunately, has taken a pretty dark turn in the last 10 years.
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And we are going to come back to that theme over and over and over again throughout this story. Because as Urban Air expanded, lawsuits started to flood in because of the way that things were being done. And Michael Browning has had some choice words that are posted on his website to say about those lawsuits. But as we dig this story open, you'll see that Michael Browning's words are
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And one mom who spent the last three years fighting against a multi-billion dollar private equity monster is about to topple the whole house of cards. All that and more right now on Candace. So imagine you're a mom or a dad and you want to take your kids to the adventure park for a fun day, maybe a birthday party, right?
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Well, I'll just read them for you. Quote, Right on, Michael. Good to know. It's also good to know that, let's just say we have documentation that seems to imply that that Skyrider attraction, that zipline type of thing that that poor girl fell off of, that was not originally created by Urban Air. And there's documentation that seems to imply that, in fact, Michael Browning Jr.,
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shall we say, filed patents after signing a confidentiality agreement with the original company that founded it, Leap of Faith Adventures. If you search the internet for Leap of Faith Adventures today, you will find just about nothing because Leap of Faith Adventures no longer exists. And that's another dig for another time.
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But let's just say that the emails, correspondences, and documentation that we have kind of implies what might have happened to Leap of Faith Adventures. Because when you're founding a national chain of adventure parks, you need all kinds of cool rides and attractions and stuff for the kids to do, like rock walls and zip lines and crazy trampolines spin around tumblers and stuff like that.
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And it sounds pretty dangerous because it can be, right? And when you take your kid out to a park like that, you're expecting them to be providing the safety so that your kids can have a fun, safe time out. Once Michael Browning Jr. had expanded his empire of trampoline and adventure parks all around the nation, he realized that he was onto something and he could expand and do even more.
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So following a trend that is rampant in private equity right now, in 2021, Browning decided to scale up following a hot new trend in private equity that gets referred to as platforms, where the
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they will buy up different companies that are in the same niche, in the same sector, so that if you wanted to fix up your house, they've got AC people, they've got cleaning people, they've got painting people. This is just one example, but it happens in all sorts of different areas of our economy. And Michael Browning Jr. decided that
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he was going to take on the niche that was all things children. Why not apply the private equity playbook of cutting costs, streamlining businesses, and maximizing profits to all businesses' children? So that's what he did.
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And he bought up a number of businesses in rapid succession with backing from his private equity buddies, including Sylvan Learning Centers, Waterwing, Snapology, XP League, Class 101, Premier Martial Arts, and The Little Gym. But among all brands, it has 1,200 locations across the country and serves 25 million children a year. It generates $1.1 billion in annual revenue. Michael Browning Jr.
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seems to be doing pretty good. But... problems started to arise as they acquired each of these companies. And they didn't start with The Little Gym, but our story starts at The Little Gym today. Founded originally by Robin West and Robin McCoy. And I just want to show you their faces because I get the feeling we'll come back to them in the future.
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But the story really comes to a head when Tiffany Cianci enters the picture. And Tiffany Cianci bought into this franchise as a mom that was doing other business and wanted to spend more time with her kids around 2017.
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And so she thought that buying one of these franchises would be a great service to her community and a great way to spend more time with her kids because her kids could attend the little gym. And if you've not been to the little gym, it's a space for...
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Children of all types, but particularly targeted children that have special types of needs, whether that be auditory, sensory, learning, cognitive, whatever. It's a gym for all types of children to do gymnastics and learn through physical movement. And Tiffany Cianci really found her passion there.
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We're going to be drawing from news reporting and articles that have reported on Tiffany's story over the last three years as it has gotten crazy.
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And just recently, it's gone to a whole new level as cases against Urban Air and the parent company, Unleashed Brands, have moved from secret arbitration into public court, as well as since Tiffany Cianci and several other insiders have decided that enough is enough and it's time to come clean. Cianci started... back in 2017 and all was gravy.
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It was a wonderful time and a wonderful business for her to run. And she was very successful at it. But then right around the buyout with Unleashed Brands, corporate came down to her and said, hey, we have this new advising partner and they're going to help us with this new stuff. And they were presented as though they were just going to advise them.
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Slowly, little by little, it became apparent to Cianci and the rest of the staff that this was not an advisor, this was a buyout, and the buyout was Unleashed Brands, and the advisor they were speaking to was Michael Browning Jr. himself.
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Suffice it to say that Cianci and many of the other franchise owners were uncomfortable with the various changes that were being made, the types of changes that would separate Cianci the people running these gyms from their clients.
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Things like call centers, where when a parent calls with a concern about their child, they get a person in a call center halfway across the country instead of the actual teachers that work with their child every day. You could see how that could be a little bit of an issue when you're dealing with special needs kids doing gymnastics, but that's not really how private equity plays.
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That's where today's story starts with a young girl, seven years old, being taken by her parents to Urban Air Adventure Park. And They were expecting just a normal day. They were expecting a wonderful day with their kid. And if you've ever been to Urban Air, you would know that there's all kinds of crazy things for the kids to do.
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So, Cianci organized her fellow franchise owners into an association, sort of like a union, to push back against the changes and to stand up for the franchisee rights. Just to clarify, a franchisee is the person that founded the small business, the owner of the franchise. The franchisor is the big boys, the corporates, Michael Browning Jr., in this case.
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Over the next three years and to this day, Unleashed Brands took Tiffany Cianci through legal Can I say hell?
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Cool. Over the next three years, Unleashed Brands took Tiffany Cianci through legal hell, dragging her into hundreds of thousands of debt through untold emotional and financial hardships, through the most insane journey of just outright unethical, unlawful lawfare. This is not unique to Tiffany or unique to Unleashed Brands or unique to The Little Gym.
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Franchises are all across America and they are all kinds of businesses that support a huge sector of our economy. And franchises in particular are in the crosshairs of private equity today because they can be so incredibly profitable for reasons that we will go into.
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Suffice it to say, when you are outsourcing so much of your business cost, debt, and the actual running of your day to day business to individual people, to families and small business owners, you can offload a lot of risk and a lot of the hardship and just suck all the money up to the top.
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Tiffany has been in arbitration, which is a secret court system where all the rules work differently, all the judges work differently, everything is for profit, and everything is secret by definition. She's been in arbitration for the last three years, and... We have now got information through her and others that there are many, many other people.
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We're talking hundreds of other people in arbitration just with Unleashed Brands, let alone with other private equity and other corporations around the world. The big picture problem with this whole story
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is not just that private equity is buying up and taking advantage of small businesses, not just that private equity is applying the private equity playbook to these businesses that are focused on kids, mind you, but that those practices that private equity uses are inherently counter to safety. Tiffany gave this quote to the New York Times.
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That might be okay when you're cleaning a dryer vent, but it's not when you're throwing around a four-month-old and you need them to be safe. Ms. Sianci said, he was moving faster than we would need to get to know the business, referring to the changes happening at the little gym. And the key word there is safe.
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And as the clip that we opened this segment shows, safety is obviously not the first thing on the mind of Unleashed Brands and of Urban Air. But that is just one video and there are many other videos from Urban Air.
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And theoretically, their staff kind of help and keep them safe, help and run the rides. And this little girl teed up to get on one of the most popular rides at Urban Air. We have video from that day.
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Again, we are going to blur out the most sensitive parts of these videos, but we just wanted to get you a sense of what you can find just on YouTube if you go searching for this type of stuff.
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So there's examples of kids falling, but there's also examples of adults and parents getting hurt. In the next video, a mom almost died in front of her own daughter at their birthday party.
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so when things like this happen the park gets sued which is owned by a small business owner but they're just trying to comply with corporate corporate unleashed brands pushes all responsibility down onto the park and anything else that they can't wash away gets filed away into secret arbitration and you agree to secret arbitration when you sign your kid in at the park when you sign those waivers because if you didn't know
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Almost every waiver you sign these days, whether you're going to the rock climbing gym or you're signing up for some swimming lesson or you're just buying a washing machine, almost all of those waivers include what's called an arbitration agreement. And that is where you agree to waive your rights to court
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and instead agree to settle in arbitration, which is essentially secret court where the judges are all for sale. We're going to get into arbitration way more in coming episodes, but suffice to say that it's a great way to cover up all sorts of nefarious stuff if you don't want the public to know. You might have noticed, too,
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That's thelittlecatholic.com with promo code CANDICE25 for handmade Catholic jewelry that lasts. Und jetzt sprechen wir über Elon Musk. Denn einer seiner am meisten gesprochenen Firmen ist die Boring Company. Und er hat große Pläne für die Bauung von Untergrundinfrastruktur weltweit. Er hat seitdem Geld von seinen PayPal-Jungs Peter Thiel und Joe Lonsdale, in anderen Worten Palantir,
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And although certainly there are a lot of legitimate reasons why better tunnel dating technology could make the world better for all of us, I can think of lots of reasons why these defense industry aligned folks might have other things in mind.
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I don't know of any secret government contracts held by the boring company right now, but let's just say that if he doesn't already have them, you can bet that he will soon. But while we're on the topic of Elon Musk, I spoke with Candice a few weeks back about Elon Musk's gaming scandal and the implications of it.
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Now, I haven't played any video games in like nearly a decade, so I thought I'd take it over to a dude who knows what he's talking about and let YouTuber Quinn69TV get us started.
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And we're going to take a lot of interesting detours and side quests. But trust me, by the end, it's going to paint quite the picture. So let's start where I started on Wiki Spooks. Wikispooks, wenn ihr euch nicht kennt, ist eine wilde Reise. Es ist wie Wikipedia für Konspirationstheorien und es ist crowdsourced und wahrscheinlich noch nicht von Masada, der CIA, kontrolliert.
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So at this point as of today he has confessed to paying people to level up and play his characters for him. And don't worry we're not going to nerd out super hard here on this but we're just going to skim the surface for a minute to inspire some questions. But before we get into this it's important to remember He's bragging, he was bragging at least, on the largest platforms in the world.
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No mention whatsoever that he cheated to level up his characters. He claimed to be one of the top players in two of the hardest and most competitive video games out there, Diablo 4 and Path of Exile 2, on shows like Joe Rogan and Lex Fridman and others. But then, during Trump's inauguration, Elon Musk's character was online, pretty much confirming what everyone was already suspecting.
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He eventually did admit, sort of through a private chat, that he gave permission to be released through a friendly gaming YouTuber that painted it in a pretty good light, that he had paid people to play and level up his character's form. And he gave excuses that all the players in Asia do it, so if you want to beat them, then you have to do it too. Okay, bro.
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Das ist cool, aber das ist nicht, was du auf den größten Plattformen im Weltkrieg bezeichnet hast. Der YouTube-Kanal Upper Echelon hat einen ziemlich brutalen, aber eindeutigen Ausbruch des ganzen Dinges, wenn du mehr Details möchtest.
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Und er hat eine wirklich interessante Theorie vorgelegt, die Elon Musk vor diesem Skandal super geklaut hat, als er angefangen hat, über sein Spiel des Spiels Elden Ring online zu posten. Wie sein Charakter-Build. Das bedeutet, die Power-Ups und Items und Armut und alles, was er verwendet hat, war so schlecht, dass es ein Meme wurde.
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Leute haben angefangen, Videos zu machen, wie sie das Spiel mit dem Elon-Build gewinnen. Videos, die auf seinem Build klopfen, haben Millionen von Views. Es war viel.
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And upper echelon suggests the theory that maybe the trolling was so intense during this time two years ago that he later cheated to level up his characters as some sort of psychological comeback at all the nerds that had made fun of him. And obviously, that's just a theory. But it's a pretty compelling one.
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It becomes more compelling when you remember that Bro didn't found Tesla, his flagship company. This is something of a pattern for him. Elon Musk war nur der Bankroll. Für die ersten vier Jahre von Tesla waren Martin Eberhard und Mark Tarpenning die Leute, die Tesla gegründet haben. Bis Musk Martin ausgestattet hat und ihn 2007 gefeuert hat. Und nowadays, Elon Musk founded Tesla.
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He doesn't tend to say he invented Tesla or directly claim it was all him. He tends to say things like, back when we founded Tesla. But he certainly doesn't mention Eberhard, ever. But, from Eberhards perspective... So, what changed to make Musk the hands-on CEO that he is today? Well, according to Everhard, everything changed when Tesla started to get attention from the press.
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Obwohl ihr natürlich immer alles für euch selbst überprüfen müsst, besonders an einem Ort wie Wikispooks. Und das Schöne an Wikispooks ist, dass es ziemlich niedrig ist. Und es erinnert dich ständig darauf, es nicht als Grundsatz zu vertrauen. Aber das andere, was ich liebe an Wikispooks, ist, dass es mit Linken zu Grundsätzen auf alle Art und Weise verpackt ist.
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Quote, his behavior changed dramatically as soon as we started having press about Tesla. He got mad if anything was ever written about Tesla and it didn't feature his name prominently. And that's when I realized that there was an ego involved here that I had not recognized before. Eberhard used to have the nickname Mr. Tesla.
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And he said that anytime Musk wasn't mentioned in an article about the company, he would call and scream at Eberhard. Now, that sounds like the kind of guy that would get butthurt about gamers making fun of him and cheat to level up to be one of the best.
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In fact, that starts to align quite well with Musk's apparently abusive but extremely wealthy childhood, his problems with his father and his apparent insatiable drive for success and recognition today.
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Eventually, after a defamation lawsuit and settlement, Musk purchased the right to call himself a founder of Tesla, and Eberhard presumably took a pretty payout and agreed to never disparage Elon Musk again. But then, on the other hand, it's not as simple as flipping your opinion and hating Elon Musk as an eternal fraudster, right?
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He did pour all of his money into Tesla when success was not certain, and then again with SpaceX, which he did found. He bet the farm on SpaceX when his first three rocket launches failed and both SpaceX and Tesla were on the verge of bankruptcy. And it's actually a pretty wild story. And it's hard not to respect the guy for the sheer tenacity of it all, even if a lot of it was just money.
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But I guess the point here is that they're both stories. And there's always more than one side of a story. And when Elon tells them, he's the hero. He was up against all odds and he narrowly snatched victory from the jaws of defeat. When other people tell it, you see other sides of the story that Elon seems to have conveniently left out.
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Mein Punkt ist nicht zu sagen, dass Elon immer ein Lüger ist, sondern eher zu zeigen, dass Elon bereit ist, die Wahrheit zu bewegen, um die Anforderungen seines Egos, seiner Bildung und seiner größeren Ziel zu erreichen.
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Und du solltest vorsichtig sein mit einem Mann mit einem Hero-Komplex, so groß, der wir wissen, dass er in der Vergangenheit über etwas so insubstantiell wie seine Präsenz in einem Videospiel verliebt hat. We'll have to do another dig another day about the Nazi rocket scientist Werner von Braun, who wrote this book in 1953 about a man named Elon that colonized Mars.
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Das ist, weshalb Leute amerikanische Finanzierung nennen, weil sie Kunden mit einem Warteziel von 800 Dollar im Monat versorgen, indem sie ihre Einkommen nutzen, um endlich von Kreditkartenteilen frei zu brechen. So now, speaking of rocket ships and people lying, let's talk about UFOs. Now, I know that a lot of you probably never think about UFOs.
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Und einige von ihnen sind ziemlich verrückt. Wenn du einen Nachmittag absolut zerstören willst, geh einfach in die 9-11-Wikispooks-Page. Sie haben viele Gems da drin. So, anyways, I wound up on the Wikispoops page for deep underground military bases, and it had this section on the NDAA from 2013.
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And people that do all have wildly different opinions and takes. It's interesting. But also it feels at least a little bit like a psyop. It's dizzying to keep up with all the drama in the UFO community. And without Candace around to give it the Blake Lively treatment, it's largely the Wild West of conspiracy theories as far as I'm concerned.
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But just recently, a content creator called Museum of Tarot exposed one of the largest and longest standing UFO influencers to potentially be an Israeli plant. Steven Greer. If you're not familiar with this dude, he spent the last 30 years collecting every whistleblower under the sun and compiling their testimony and allegedly running around briefing presidents and CIA directors, etc.
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about the threat of UFOs and the secret government reverse engineering programs. Some of his claims are believable and some of them are completely ridiculous, like the time he claimed to have an alien body that turned out to be the bones of a deformed human child.
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So, a couple of months ago, Brent, Museum of Tarot, went on my friend Danny Jones' podcast and dropped a bomb on Stephen Greer's career. He brought documentation that he had dug up that seemed to imply that Stephen Greer had a long lost secret history with Israel that he never seems to mention anymore. Let's watch this clip.
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Holy S***. Danny Jones has talked to a lot of wild people and heard a lot of wild claims. And that pause of just what the... Das tötet mich. Aber es ist immer wichtig, deine Ressourcen zu double-checken. Es ist immer wichtig, Dinge für dich selbst zu korroberieren. Und so konnte ich die Newspaper-Clipping, die Brent independent online referiert hat, korroberieren. All on my own.
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Side note, Obama tacked on the Smith-Munt Modernization Act to the 2013 NDAA, basically ensuring that it would pass, which it did. And that was when the US government officially legalized itself propagandizing the American people. Skyler, do we have the AP fact check pulled up that we can show everybody? Because it was pretty funny. So, obviously, AP knows what they're talking about.
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Es wurde von der Charlotte Observer gedreht, veröffentlicht am Dienstag, Oktober 30, 1979. Und es sagt, was Danny auf dem Screen gelesen hat. Ich werde es jetzt ein bisschen lesen. Quote. Quote. This is interesting for a number of reasons. First, the photo included is clearly identifiable as being the correct Stephen Greer, even though he's much younger.
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Aside from all the other corroboration as far as where, when, names, etc. So as Brent points out, Greer never seems to mention Israel all that much these days. And this is right at the age where one would be recruited as an intelligence asset. It also is immediately before he goes out into the world and starts to become the man that the UFO community knows today.
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Also, an interesting rabbit hole on Baha'i. Baha'i is sort of a universal faith that plays into all religions and has practitioners all around the globe. I'm not familiar with any of the nuances of their beliefs or practices. Brent says Baha'i was widely considered to be an intelligence gathering operation for Mossad.
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Now, I haven't done the full dive on Baha'i by any means, but Iran certainly thinks that Baha'i is an intelligence operation for Mossad and the CIA.
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In 2014, there are a small handful of articles referencing claims made by Ahmad Saleh, Chairman of Iran's Parliamentary Cultural Commission, and he said, quote, I declare very explicitly that Baha'ism is an espionage organization which gathers intelligence for the CIA and Mossad, and there are abundant documents to prove this.
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Now, there is a small handful of Western publications mocking this assertion, which really doesn't give you much to go on. If Baha'ism isn't an intelligence-gathering operation, then the CIA and Mossad are definitely missing out on a convenient opportunity though, as global groups like niche religions make great espionage covers of Scientology.
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That being said, maybe Iran just doesn't like the Baha'i, just as they don't like all the other religions. Who knows? Brent also presented Danny with an op-ed piece written by Greer in the late 80s that seems to imply that Stephen Greer may also be secretly gay. Skyler was able to dig that one up too. And it is a real piece published in the Asheville Citizen on Friday, October 16th, 1987.
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It says, in part, I'm just going to read a little bit of it, quote, So. So.
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Brant macht es sehr klar, dass er nichts gegen Gay-Personen hat, nur dass die Zweitwahl eines geschlossenen Gay-Personen anstrengend ist, wenn wir über den Top-Repräsentanten der UFO-Diskussion-Community sprechen, der offensichtlich Präsidenten und CIA-Direktoren auf dem Thema berichten, besonders wenn er Likes zu Israel hat, die einfach nie aufkommen.
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Es scheint alles ein bisschen fischig zu sein. Now, within this article, we don't have a photo to confirm that it's the right Stephen Greer, but we do have a middle initial, he is a doctor, and there's a connection to Asheville. The Stephen Greer we are talking about matches all of those criteria, so it doesn't seem likely that we're matching this to the wrong Greer.
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And if it is the same Greer, then it's interesting that he was married in Israel back in the 70s to a woman, and then referring to himself as a gay man in the 80s. You know what I'm saying? So, All together, the UFO-Disclosure-Corner of the Internet is a wild place. And it's an absolute cluster of ex-spooks, current spooks, suspicious characters, dubious stories and wild claims.
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And if you wanted to know whether it was legal to propagandize US citizens, AP's got your back. Because the claim is that Obama signed into law this thing that will allow the government to propagandize American citizens. But AP's assessment is that's false. In 2013, Obama signed legislation that changed the U.S. Information and Educational Exchange Act of 1948, also known as the Smith-Munt Act.
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Some of them may be legit. Some are most definitely running some sort of hidden agenda. There's really not a lot of clear answers of who is which. And ultimately, it's a cautionary tale to remind us all to think critically. Persönlich, meine Lieblingsbeweise für UFOs kommen aus den Telepathy-Tapes und CIA-Remoat-Viewing-Programmen,
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Und oft werden Christen diesen ganzen Thema als eine Begründung an Gott nehmen. Und ich sage, nicht überhaupt. Menschen haben gedacht, dass Gottes Kreation nur die eurasischen und afrikanischen Kontinente war. Du würdest ein Blasphemer sein, um anders zu denken. Gottes Kreation wurde nie mit Waffen, Flugzeugen und Computern verwendet. Letztendlich ist Gottes Kreation alles.
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Und alles, was wir beobachten und prüfen, ist Teil dieses Designs. And to me, one of the most fascinating questions always lurking in the dark corners of every conspiracy convention is aliens. Is there proof? Are they here? And what on earth is really going on? I only know two things about aliens for sure. First, that we don't know for sure. And second, don't trust the government.
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That's our show for today. Thanks for watching. Thanks for tuning in. Don't forget to hit the like button on your way out. Subscribe to Candice's channel.
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I also really appreciate it if you click the link in the description that'll go to my channel, Ian Carroll's show, and subscribe over there too, if you've been enjoying the way that I share evidence and sass and just ultimately encourage everyone to think for themselves. Candice is out with baby Rowan for probably another week or two, but we'll be sure to bring you updates.
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And so for now, drink your water, love your family, do something nice for someone, and we'll see you tomorrow.
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The amendment made it possible for some materials created by the U.S. Agency for Global Media, the nation's foreign broadcasting agency, to be disseminated in the U.S. So, false. They're not propagandizing you, but they're just sharing a little tidsy bitsy of propaganda with you. Obviously.
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And if you're not familiar with the NDAA, by the way, it's the National Defense Authorization Act, which is basically the annual budget bill for the Department of Defense, hence why it was guaranteed to pass, more or less. And this is a good place to start us off. Because the first thing you should always do is double check your source.
Candace
Elon Musk, Secret Underground Bases, & UFOs | Candace Ep 191
So in this case, I was able to follow Wikispooks links and search the page for the text to find that this same information is verifiable on sites like govtrack.us. And this does appear to be actual text from the NDAA in 2013. And I'm not surprised by this. Because the military takes underground military facilities and capabilities very seriously.
Candace
Elon Musk, Secret Underground Bases, & UFOs | Candace Ep 191
This specific example is basically an order to STRATCOM, Strategic Command, to find out what secret underground military facilities and capabilities China has and figure out how hard it would be to nuke them if we wanted to. Which is a kind of uncomfortable scenario to consider if you think it through for just a few minutes. Aber anyways, underground military bases are not new.
Candace
Elon Musk, Secret Underground Bases, & UFOs | Candace Ep 191
Heute sprechen wir über furchtbare Dinge. Und ich meine, offensichtlich, Elon Musks secretives Tunnel-Digging-Company, das uns einen verrückten Riesenhaufen in tiefen undergrounden Militär-Basen verlässt. Außerdem, dass ein Mal, als eine Run-App unverzüglich secretive CIA-Fazilitäten um die Welt ausgeschlossen hat und vielleicht sogar eine secretive Base unter dem Eis in Antarktika.
Candace
Elon Musk, Secret Underground Bases, & UFOs | Candace Ep 191
This is a 1953 CIA report that was declassified in 2003, detailing how the Soviet Union had taken control of and was rebuilding Nazi underground military base infrastructure in Rastenburg, which is northeast Poland, after World War II. When the Germans retreated from East Prussia in 1945, the German army headquarters at Rastenburg was left intact.
Candace
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It is claimed that the advancing Red Army scarcely noticed anything special about this region where the, quote, brain of the German Army was located during the war. Seen from the surface, it was only an area of lakes and forests, which covered the gigantic underground city measuring 38 kilometers long and 3 to 5 kilometers wide.
Candace
Elon Musk, Secret Underground Bases, & UFOs | Candace Ep 191
The region is crossed by the railroad, which runs from Kaliningrad to Bialstok. The underground military city is equipped with a communication system, which is completely electrified. There are three electric power plants, which function independently of each other, and water tanks and a water system supplying the underground shelters, barracks, officers' quarters and the luxurious staff rooms.
Candace
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All parts of the headquarters are connected by telephone and also by a pneumatic dispatch tube system. There are also large military warehouses and garages and underground hangars, all at a depth of at least 30 meters below the surface. It's pretty wild to think back to civilian technology in the 1940s, when this stuff was being constructed during wartime, mind you.
Candace
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And think about how vastly different the resources and technology available to a nation's military are from those available to their citizens. Ich werde nur ein bisschen von diesem Dokument lesen. Das selbe Dokument. Es ist ziemlich einfach, die Nazis aus Argentinien und Antarktika zu fliehen, unter dem Boden zu schlafen und all das Jazz zu machen.
Candace
Elon Musk, Secret Underground Bases, & UFOs | Candace Ep 191
Most history textbooks like to gloss over that a whole bunch of them just came to America, hosted by the CIA, and then were instrumental in things like our biological and chemical weapons programs, our mind control experiments, and NASA. Our space program was founded by one of the lead Nazi rocket scientists, Wernher von Braun. And we'll come back to a neat tidbit about him a little later.
Candace
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But the crazy thing is that the underground bases in Antarctica tinfoil isn't just tinfoil. Maybe. Nun, ich kenne nicht die Geheimdienste der Nazi-Basen in der Antarktik, aber ich kenne das zu einem Zeitpunkt, als Strava die Locationen der Geheimdienste weltweit veröffentlicht hat. Also, es ist Zeit für unseren ersten verrückten Abflug. Das ist eine echte Geschichte.
Candace
Elon Musk, Secret Underground Bases, & UFOs | Candace Ep 191
2017, als Strava ihre Heatmap-Feature veröffentlichte, veröffentlichten amerikanische Soldaten und Operatoren die exakt gleiche Ausstellung von Geheimdiensten online zu Strava, einer der populärsten Run-Apps.
Candace
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You see, Strava has this feature where as you record your runs through your watch or your telephone or whatever, it stores that GPS data and then it anonymously uploads it to their global heat map, which shows where we all run and how much traffic different routes get. It's actually incredibly cool and super useful.
Candace
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For example, I spent the last couple of months living in Austin, Texas, and I would use the Strava heat map to look around for trails and cool places to run. The brighter the line, the more people run there. It's a great way to find fun adventures. Also, apparently, an all right way to find secret military bases hidden all around the world. This is coming from The Guardian.
Candace
Elon Musk, Secret Underground Bases, & UFOs | Candace Ep 191
Dann, ist Elon Musk über seine gesamte Identität lügt, bis zurück zu dem, wer wirklich Tesla gegründet hat? Plus, a huge Israeli operative might have just been exposed in the UFO community. All that and more, today on Candice. So, the other day I was digging into Elon Musk's boring company. You know, the tunneling company he owns that most people don't know about.
Candace
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In Syria, known coalition, i.e. US bases, light up the night, writes an analyst Tobias Schneider. Some light markers over known Russian positions, no notable coloring for Iranian bases. A lot of people are going to have to sit through lectures come Monday morning.
Candace
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In Locations like Afghanistan, Djibouti and Syria, the users of Strava seem to be almost exclusively foreign military personnel, meaning that bases stand out brightly. In Helmand Province, Afghanistan for instance, the locations of forward operating bases can be clearly seen, glowing white against the black map. Because all the Afghanis and all the people over there are not using Strava.
Candace
Elon Musk, Secret Underground Bases, & UFOs | Candace Ep 191
And so the places where Westerners are stationed and are recording their movements are very easy to spot. And now, these bases probably weren't exactly secret, but it's still pretty awkward. We're just publishing a roadmap of all of our forward bases for anyone that wants to, to just browse through.
Candace
Elon Musk, Secret Underground Bases, & UFOs | Candace Ep 191
But then, the internet completely lost its mind when someone found this weird data in Antarctica, shaped like a trapezoid on the heat map. Conspiracy Boards on Reddit gobbled it up and started cooking up all kinds of crazy theories. And from a distance, it appears to just be in some random location in Antarctica.
Candace
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You zoom in and you see that there's some sort of research station there, but theories about an underground base started to spread. And although there may be underground bases in Antarctica, eventually cooler heads prevailed when someone realized that that's where they host the Antarctic Ice Marathon, which is still pretty wild.
Candace
Elon Musk, Secret Underground Bases, & UFOs | Candace Ep 191
Those people are their own kind of crazy, but it's not a secret Nazi UFO base. And although the Strava data did yield some likely candidates for secret CIA bases abroad, where they technically were not supposed to be at the time, A lot of popular underground base theories came up empty handed. No secret tunnels lit up the Denver airport.
Candace
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No secret tunnels linked the Getty Museum to billionaire mansions in Hollywood, at least not on Strava. And that should be expected because you can't record your GPS data from underground. So obviously we weren't exactly expecting Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama to record their secret walks to and from a hot dog and a pizza party. But there is evidence that sketchy stuff is going on underground.
Candace
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For example, the Finders Cult is an enduring mystery that would take an entire episode to dig into. But in short, a preschool was found to have a whole tunnel system underneath it. Links to satanic ritual abuse and then direct links to CIA involvement came out. And that's when it all got covered up and labeled conspiracy. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Candace
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Dann gibt es den jüngeren Skandal bei Chabad Lubavitch in New York, einem der größten Synagogen eines der größten prominenten Sekten des ultra-orthodoxen Judaismus, wo es entdeckt wurde, dass sie Tunnel und Räume unter dem Gebäude gelegt haben. Die offizielle Geschichte ist, dass es nur ein paar dreckige Kinder war, die versuchen, den Synagogen zu erweitern.
Candace
Elon Musk, Secret Underground Bases, & UFOs | Candace Ep 191
Diese Sekte, die ich nennen würde, ist etwas, was ich nur als Textbuchkult beschreiben kann. Und niemand von uns wird jemals vergessen, dass die verbrannte Kindertüte, die von dem Tunnel ausgeholt wurde, in all dem Schmerz. Ich denke, wir haben alle einige Fragen, aber nicht viele Antworten. Das sind nur ein paar der späreren Skandalen, die die Tunnels in den letzten Jahren betroffen haben.
Candace
Elon Musk, Secret Underground Bases, & UFOs | Candace Ep 191
Aber all, was ihr tun müsst, ist, auf die Wikipedia-Page zu gehen, die Untergrundstadt bezeichnet wird, und ihr werdet sofort sehen, warum es so viele Tunnel-Konspirationstheorien gibt. Die erste Foto auf der Webseite ist eine Referenz an Crystal City, Virginia, die ich nicht bemerken konnte, ist nur ein paar Meilen von Downtown DC. Also musste ich natürlich klicken.
Candace
Elon Musk, Secret Underground Bases, & UFOs | Candace Ep 191
Ich werde es von der Wikipedia-Page ein bisschen lesen. Quote Crystal City enthält mehrere Aerospace-Manufacturing- und Defense-Industrie-Companies, öffentliche Sektoren, Consulting-Firmen, Regierungskontrakte, die US-Departement der Arbeit, die US-Marshal-Service, Satelliten-Office für den Pentagon und verschiedene Non-Profit-Organisationen. Interesting. Go figure.
Candace
Elon Musk, Secret Underground Bases, & UFOs | Candace Ep 191
All the defense contractors, consulting firms and government agency buildings are sitting on top of a massive tunnel network. There's obviously a similar, probably far more robust tunnel network underneath DC proper. Seriously, the Wikipedia page for Underground City is this long. And that's just what's on Wikipedia.
Candace
Elon Musk, Secret Underground Bases, & UFOs | Candace Ep 191
It goes on and on, describing tunnels all over the world, underneath all kinds of cities. And it's got all kinds of links. And I would invite you to go check it out. And just do a little digging, so to speak. So I just had to laugh though, where it tells us about the tunnels underneath Richmond, Virginia. And then it says, quote, the purpose of the tunnels is not generally known.
Candace
Elon Musk, Secret Underground Bases, & UFOs | Candace Ep 191
Okay, whatever guys. Dig into this stuff deep enough and you'll wind up at that one time back in the 70s when the US government patented a nuclear tunnel boring machine. Here is that patent filed on behalf of the US Atomic Energy Commission. But the official story is that the project never got off the ground and was transferred between agencies before being buried and retired. And who knows?
Candace
Elon Musk, Secret Underground Bases, & UFOs | Candace Ep 191
Maybe that is what happened. But one thing is for sure. Something has been digging all this underground infrastructure. And we all know that if this is what they're telling us about, Lord knows that they aren't telling us about other things. And in a moment, we're going to go into Elon Musk and his involvement in this whole story. But first, a quick break.
Candace
Elon Musk, Secret Underground Bases, & UFOs | Candace Ep 191
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Elon Musk, Secret Underground Bases, & UFOs | Candace Ep 191
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Elon Musk, Secret Underground Bases, & UFOs | Candace Ep 191
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Candace
Theo Von Speaks Out | Big Names Missing In The Diddy Trial | Candace Ep 188
Um, when his son turned 13 and there's local news station footage of him taking the newscaster around the land and like, they're like talking how they go out there all the time and have a good time. And the border wall is right there in the TV shop. And it's, it's unreal just to think like how, like, excuse me, this is during Biden's presidency.
Candace
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This is when people are jumping over that border, like crazy when there's all kinds of stuff going on on that border. That's not the kind of land that you want to own as a real estate development company.
Candace
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I mean, if you're even so, let's run with the idea of what the mainstream media is picturing Diddy's operation as, as just a bunch of depraved sex. the head of security of that operation is the first dude you should be talking to. Because the head of security for Diddy's depraved sex ring is going to know about everything that happened.
Candace
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He's going to know where the people were, how they came in, where they left through, all of it. And so the fact that no one's mentioned Fahim Muhammad yet, and maybe they will, maybe they'll bring him in, but I haven't heard his name yet at all in relation to this trial.
Candace
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And so you couldn't paint a better picture for a show trial that is designed to be salacious and crazy and wild and scandalous in all the wrong directions.
Candace
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And hide what was really going on. Because it's still going on.
Candace
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Most people remember the video. It was in 2018. He was the Trump Doral hotel shooter. And he's like a bald guy. And everyone's seen clips of him or photos of him in his like weird hospital gown with one arm out and one arm out. And he he like went into the Trump Hotel in Doral and shot a gun in the air a bunch of times, not at anyone.
Candace
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It's a good question. I think that I do absolve her of guilt specifically because of what's written in her lawsuit in the sense that when you're 19 and in her lawsuit. Yeah. But when you're 19 and drugs that are very quickly very addictive are involved and very serious physical abuse is involved from that early age.
Candace
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And and the types of abuses we're talking about when you try to leave when you try to wrong him at all that the ways that people describe Diddy's abuse from that age onwards that does something to your brain that I do not blame her for her complete because like let's be real. Diddy's a bigger dude that could beat her senseless, that we've seen beat her senseless.
Candace
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And so if she's complicit in any of those crimes while she's with him, that is Diddy's crime. And we have more than enough evidence to see that's Diddy's fault and Diddy's crime. And then when you top it all off with her having the gumption to bring that case and to stand up and speak and to file that lawsuit, which started all these lawsuits, she's the one that opened the floodgates here.
Candace
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That's incredibly brave. And that's something that all the women that came before her, all the men that came before, all the sex slaves that came before did not do. Right. And so I'm I'm inclined to think of Cassie as a bit of a hero in this situation.
Candace
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And bombing cars is illegal.
Candace
Theo Von Speaks Out | Big Names Missing In The Diddy Trial | Candace Ep 188
And and then like took over the lobby of the hotel and draped a giant American flag over it. Very like bizarre behavior. And then got into a shootout with police, got shot, ran away, surrendered this whole thing. And it turned out that once he got, you know, apprehended and taken in, there's this video that went on the Internet that was from his like medical examination or something.
Candace
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And somewhat consensual.
Candace
Theo Von Speaks Out | Big Names Missing In The Diddy Trial | Candace Ep 188
I'm also just I'm prone to empathizing with people of all varieties from all walks of life, because I think that's really important. That comes from being raised by teachers and thinking as a teacher often is you have to understand where people are coming from. And when it comes to Diddy, it's like, like you can do that a little bit, but it's much easier to understand where Cassie's coming from.
Candace
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And certainly she has committed crimes and certainly she has, is not, her hands are not clean. Um, but you have to take each person for what their life is worth and what their crimes are and what their story is. And in general, I think that Cassie's, uh, Cassie's hurt and then help at the end of this situation, um, I think that in my mind, that outweighs what she what she did wrong.
Candace
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I think it was a museum where this event was being hosted. And the event was something of a quote from the organizer of the event said something like this was an event to build bridges towards peace in the Middle East, towards, you know, building bridges between the different nations in the Middle East. So it was definitely a progressive style of an event. It was not a BB style event for sure.
Candace
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And conflating it with anti-Semitism, too, which is like maybe maybe he was anti-Semitic. Maybe he killed them just because they were Jewish. But all the evidence that I'm seeing is that it was political. And conflating the fact that they were Jewish with the fact that he was saying free Palestine and you're Israeli having to do with the Israeli government, those are not the same thing.
Candace
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It's not the same thing.
Candace
Theo Von Speaks Out | Big Names Missing In The Diddy Trial | Candace Ep 188
But it's like a 30 minute video. that a lot of people saw at the time, but everyone kind of forgot about because he was clearly insane, clearly insane. He was making bizarre claims like he was Diddy's sex slave and that Diddy had forced him to have sex with his girlfriend, Cassie, and that he had contracted an STD from them and then had sued. And then he also talks about like...
Candace
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the black boule and the Illuminati and the Illuminati playing cards. And he's like trying to warn Trump. Apparently the whole thing, the whole ordeal was him trying to get Trump's attention so that he could save Trump from the Illuminati.
Candace
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Just clearly genuine. Like there's not been a clip more genuine on the Internet in a long time, I feel like.
Candace
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You're mentally ill. You're evil. And it's all name calling. It's all just names, right? It's like there's no actual discussion. There's no, there's nothing but name calling. You're evil, Theo.
Candace
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They don't seem to understand how the internet works and how young people work, too. It's like... I feel like more and more young people are getting to the point of not liking Israel, where it's like when your kid likes music that you don't want them to listen to, and you start telling them not to listen to it, and then your kid just says, no, stop it, mom.
Candace
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Because you're just like, why are you saying it that way? Why are you calling them names? Why are you going after every single person that people like?
Candace
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Katandis Owens? You don't want to be Katardis?
Candace
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I'll be Ian Katarl. Yeah, for sure.
Candace
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It's it's always you are wrong. You are mentally ill. It's never what is Israelis actions. What what what is Israel doing that might cause someone to criticize them? And it's the same thing that I'm talking about with that shooter again. It's like, again, horrible tragedy. But is he anti-Semitic or if Israel wasn't bombing children every single day?
Candace
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And that whole conflict wasn't happening this way right now. Do you think he still would have done that because he hates Jews? Or is it because of what we're seeing on the TV that he got radicalized?
Candace
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But it's really educational. If you want to learn how propaganda works, how the Hasbara works, how the mind control works, all you need to do is study the Israel-Palestine conflict. Because Israel has been waging a information war on the American people all along, and they still do today. And every day you can log in and watch their tactics and see how they try to do this.
Candace
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And it doesn't really work. But if you study it, you can then see it in other realms as well, because that's the only weapon they have when this is the reality of it. How many kids are being killed on this side versus the other side?
Candace
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Oh, yeah, the 4chan thing?
Candace
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I had to take a break from the show to fly back to talk to my handlers for a little bit because the bracelet obviously was too overt. No, my girlfriend gave it to me. I explained it on X. I was under the impression, because I knew a little bit about the Kabbalah bracelets, I was under the impression that it's a red string. I thought it was too, to be honest.
Candace
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Because people had freaked out about Tucker when he wore a red string. Mm-hmm. She's like, you know what? Have your opinion of Tucker Carlson, whatever you want to do, whatever floats your boat. So when I got this red bracelet, I was like, ha, this looks a lot like the red string Kabbalah bracelet thing.
Candace
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Well, and then here's the thing is like regardless of what bracelets people wear, it's like if that's your standard of evidence, bro, like how can I trust anything you're coming up with? Because I know my own history and I know like I know what is going on in my life. And so if that's the standard of evidence, it's like, dude, like maybe like maybe the Red Shoe Club is real.
Candace
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Maybe they're sending signs and doing like hand signals and stuff. But I'm like, can you trust that every time? Because so for me, it's like it blows up into this whole big thing online, which was kind of wild. It's like, whoa, guys, calm down.
Candace
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Tactile actually helps you think.
Candace
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The Irish Catholics, by the way, like they had traveled to Greece. And when she was younger, she had like gotten this one of these types of bracelets in Greece because it is it's an evil eye bracelet in Greece, I believe. Yeah, she didn't. She does not know that. But so she it's like a cutesy thing for her and her dad. When he travels, he gets them for her. But they're Irish Catholics.
Candace
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And so he makes and, you know, kind of an awkward dad joke about it. But I'm like, whatever, bro. Cool. Like, sure. Bracelet.
Candace
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Internet, dude, guys, calm down. Because if you think that Candace Owens's show is being run by the Kabbalah, if you think that that the Jews want you talking about the fact that Emmanuel Macron has been groomed in this way that he has. Right. Like if you think that the things that I talk about on my show, like my multi hour long
Candace
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podcasts about the dancing Israelis and about Jeffrey Epstein and about, you know, the Israeli mafia, if you think that all of that is what they want us talking about, then I am really worried about what we're not supposed to talk about.
Candace
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It's important that people think for themselves like they you know, no one should trust me for what I say. Like you should everyone should think for themselves and look at the source that I present and think think critically. Right. And you should never put someone on a screen up on some pedestal because even if I like maybe I'm controlled by Qatar, maybe I'm just dumb and get things wrong.
Candace
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Everything in between. Right. And so the like the thing about Cointelpro is it's very effective because it works. There's no way when you start sewing division. So this started in like the Black Panther movement. and the 60s civil rights era. And when you start sowing division among the ranks and throwing mud on everybody, there's really no answer except to suspect everybody.
Candace
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But in the digital age, you don't really have to trust anybody. You can just trust information. You can just trust yourself. And yeah, just do your own research and don't really trust anyone, right? And then people will expose themselves. When they start shilling a narrative, you can kind of be like, oh, that's kind of weird. And maybe they're wrong and they'll get corrected and learn.
Candace
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Or maybe they're you know, James Lindsay.
Candace
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I mean, I've learned a lot from that because I and when I was less careful about the accusations I throw around earlier on in my game here.
Candace
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And through having those accusations thrown at me and knowing very clearly they're not true that then I realized like, oh, you should be very careful when you throw accusations at someone without proof because you undermine all your credibility when you do that. And if you don't have proof, you're just going way out on a limb, ready to drown yourself.
Candace
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Oh, that it's actually it's a it's a setup that they were ready to cut him loose all along is the theory there. Jonathan Odie was like, it's Diddy's drawn too much attention. This is going to be a problem. We got to find a way to cut him loose. And then finally, they use Cassie to cut him loose, I think, is the theory there.
Candace
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You know, I'm up for the idea that that Diddy was intentionally cut loose. I'm I'm open to hearing the idea that this is somewhat calculated of trying to get him to go down.
Candace
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I mean, assuming he's alive.
Candace
Theo Von Speaks Out | Big Names Missing In The Diddy Trial | Candace Ep 188
My theory, this is just a theory just for funsies, right, is the Lil Rod lawsuit feels different, right? Cassie's lawsuit feels like what this was supposed to be.
Candace
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And the whole court trial is all about Cassie's lawsuit, not about Lil Rod's. And they're ignoring Lil Rod's lawsuit in basically every way they can. I wonder, just asking questions, if Lil Rod didn't just accidentally happen to file his lawsuit of his own volition in the way of their plan and mess everything up a little bit.
Candace
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And Cassie somehow is the woman that's like been this abused and this beaten and then somehow gets the gumption to come out and drop this lawsuit. And then they don't settle it immediately. Like, it's just it's just weird. It's weird. And then the whole trial is based on her lawsuit and everything is based on her lawsuit, even though the other one clearly has more Rico style stuff in it.
Candace
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It's pretty anti-Semitic to ask questions, as I've learned that on X. You know, I'm wearing my Epstein shirt.
Candace
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I think that's one of the coolest things about this industry, too, is that you're around... People that watch this kind of stuff, people that do this kind of work, they're people that are thinking carefully about what's going on.
Candace
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And so it's so fun to have conversations about things you haven't really decided yet, because often you're going to get a really intelligent response from someone like you who's done all this research but has a different opinion than me. That's why I think that's why podcasts are cool is because you get to learn from a lot of different people.
Candace
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I'm just imagining the conversation of like, hey, I want to get this outfit. OK, I want this outfit.
Candace
Theo Von Speaks Out | Big Names Missing In The Diddy Trial | Candace Ep 188
yeah that they're trafficking he implies very large amounts of drugs like I would assume bricks and bricks and bricks of drugs on their private jets and that got me thinking and I started looking up which celebrities own private jets and how far can their private jets fly and a lot of them do own private jets Jay-Z's private jet as well is like famous or noteworthy because it has a very long range so it can fly international intercontinental and so that's
Candace
Theo Von Speaks Out | Big Names Missing In The Diddy Trial | Candace Ep 188
Yeah, the intent was always genocide. Hence why they propped up Hamas. Hence why they pulled forces off the border beforehand. Hence why they ignored the reports that said that Hamas was preparing for a major offensive. It all points to one thing.
Candace
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Yeah, Jonathan Greenblatt.
Candace
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People who spout prejudice should not be platformed.
Candace
Theo Von Speaks Out | Big Names Missing In The Diddy Trial | Candace Ep 188
Wow. Yeah. Geez. The self-awareness on that one is.
Candace
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No, in the open Internet, like this is the scary dynamic is that in the open Internet, censorship just exposes itself and there's no there's no censorship response that is going to work. And I think they're learning that in real time. And I sort of get worried because you have to go full censorship. You have to shut things down. You have to do something way more extreme to get censorship to work.
Candace
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or have some sort of serious calamity, like a large attack or a large tragedy. Like October 7th brought a lot of people together all at once around a lot of, I mean, around a tragedy, but also a tragedy dressed up in other lies. And so I worry that that is starting to be the only avenue available to like the BB Net and Yahoo camp in this world in order to keep the charade going.
Candace
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Interesting, because when you do start to look into how private jets get treated at airports and stuff like that, I mean, I'm no expert. I've never been to these private jets, but there's a lot of loopholes that are available. And you could definitely imagine that being a pretty smart way to do such a thing.
Candace
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No, I'm going to go look into Deuce World's death.
Candace
Theo Von Speaks Out | Big Names Missing In The Diddy Trial | Candace Ep 188
Yeah. We have a lot of history of both the feds and, you know, say, organized crime that works in the music industry, trafficking drugs.
Candace
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Well, the thing that's really fun about that interview is that it's pretty clear from his when you listen to the whole thing a couple of times because of his crazy accent. It's hard to tell.
Candace
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But it's clear that he details very specific things about his encounters with Diddy and Cassie that he's clearly remembering actual events, especially now that we have confirmation that he's not entirely crazy.
Candace
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But then there's also an element where he says a few times that he also did research online to sort of put things together, because some things he's talking about how I overheard it on the phone. I overheard it while I was there. And other things, it's sort of more like. I figured this out or I piece this together.
Candace
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And so there's an element that's really fun in my mind of tinfoil where it's like, I presume that part of what he says in that interview is actual experiences that he had. And part of it is him sort of piecing things together from online like 4chan style research. And you don't necessarily know which is which, but we're starting to get a pick.
Candace
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Like we're starting to get confirmations of some of them and other ones seem more plausible and other ones are more like, I don't know.
Candace
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Drops it out of nowhere.
Candace
Theo Von Speaks Out | Big Names Missing In The Diddy Trial | Candace Ep 188
All sorts of other things.
Candace
Theo Von Speaks Out | Big Names Missing In The Diddy Trial | Candace Ep 188
I also, while we're on the Black Boulay thing, that Jonathan already brings up the Black Boulay.
Candace
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I don't know a lot about it. And I think that there's a lot of versions of it. I think that Vatican conspiracies go all sorts of different directions. The Jew conspiracies go all sorts of directions. And the Black Boulay, I think the understanding is that it traces back to the Black nobility and one of the royal families. I think there might be a Wikipedia. Yeah, yeah, there is.
Candace
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In modern times, there's lots of different takes on it. But the theory is that you sell out your own. And so the black boule, my understanding is that they are sort of the black people that sell out the other black people on behalf of, you know, the Illuminati or the guys controlling the world.
Candace
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It's been so much fun. Your team is awesome.
Candace
Theo Von Speaks Out | Big Names Missing In The Diddy Trial | Candace Ep 188
And LeBron James does have a gigantic back tattoo of the crest, like the symbol itself of the black boule. Very, very literally the exact image. Well, it's his chest. I think it's.
Candace
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And I just there's not a single piece of that that is.
Candace
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I mean, I almost exposed your whole operation here. Fortunately, the internet will forget all about it now that there's this new terror attack going on.
Candace
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I mean, I didn't know who you were speaking about before this.
Candace
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No, I wasn't really familiar with it.
Candace
Theo Von Speaks Out | Big Names Missing In The Diddy Trial | Candace Ep 188
What a coincidence.
Candace
Theo Von Speaks Out | Big Names Missing In The Diddy Trial | Candace Ep 188
I mean, these lawsuits were in a lot of ways my introduction to all these people. Like, I didn't know who Lucy and Grange was before I read those lawsuits. I wasn't paying attention to pop culture. But the moment you read those lawsuits, it's immediately apparent and just logically apparent that if Diddy's throwing all these parties, Universal Music Group is in some way financially involved.
Candace
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But the lawsuit alleges that they're directly financially involved. And the lawsuit alleges that Lucy and Grange frequently attended them and probably funded some of them. And certainly had secret meetings, or at least allegedly had secret meetings with Diddy frequently.
Candace
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Yeah, in his bedroom for an hour or more. And so all of that, like even suppose, you know, Lucy and Grange and Universal Music Group, they get taken off of Little Rod's lawsuit, which was very strange.
Candace
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And I mean, it's what's the logic here?
Candace
Theo Von Speaks Out | Big Names Missing In The Diddy Trial | Candace Ep 188
Yeah. Yeah. So it's understandable that a powerful person would be taken off the lawsuit just because powerful people can get their names protected. But in this case, like Lucy and Grange would be a star witness in any regard, even if he wasn't guilty. He would like so they don't want any kind of scrutiny. They don't want anyone looking at Lucy and they don't want anyone looking at Christina. Yeah.
Candace
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And in Lil Rod's lawsuit, he names the guy that was in charge of Diddy's computer system. He names the guy that was his tech guy that was in charge of all the cameras. And no one's ever spoken about him since. He's just gone.
Candace
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That's all they want you to focus on.
Candace
Theo Von Speaks Out | Big Names Missing In The Diddy Trial | Candace Ep 188
And it's, and they're all the most important ones. And we also didn't mention Fahim Muhammad, who would be a pretty interesting dog to put on the stand. Because Fahim Muhammad was one of the first people that we connected over. One of us made a video about him and then the other one... You did.
Candace
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Right? And then that was the first time that we kind of started interacting on content. And that rabbit hole started to go pretty deep. And I actually then... Well, explain to them because most people might not be aware of this.
Candace
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Fahim Muhammad... Diddy's head of security is named in this lawsuit. And he's named in this lawsuit as kind of the fixer, the guy that makes things go away, which is already pretty suspicious. And then one of my followers commented in my comment section that, hey, that dude was Michael Jackson's head of security. So I started digging into that. And that's absolutely true.
Candace
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And when you do the math, Michael Jackson's head of security, Fahim Muhammad, also Diddy's head of security, he graduated college like one year before Michael Jackson died in his care as his head of security.
Candace
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Second on the scene.
Candace
Theo Von Speaks Out | Big Names Missing In The Diddy Trial | Candace Ep 188
And he graduated with a business and marketing degree with a specialty in real estate, which does not sound like head of security material to me. And then another researcher found out that he owns a whole bunch of land through his real estate company right on the border of Mexico. And there's actually local news, television footage of him. Like he gave a gift to his son of 40 acres of this land.
Candace
BREAKING NEWS: I Know The Truth About Justin Bieber. | Candace Ep 175
The FBI were investigating Jackson for 10 full years and they presented no evidence of criminal conduct on Jackson's part. The files have been declassified and you can view them yourself. They include a raid of his home where they confiscated all electronics. This is their ID number that you'll see. We're talking computers, hard drives, cell phones, where they say the amount of gigabytes.
Candace
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And then following are pages like this where they have the ID of the different devices and they all say nothing. Literally, they all say this. They found nothing. But that didn't stop the press from running made-up stories about how secret FBI files revealed that Jackson had paid millions in hush money to dozens of boys he had abused, despite the FBI files directly negating that statement.
Candace
BREAKING NEWS: I Know The Truth About Justin Bieber. | Candace Ep 175
When you look into those allegations or those insults, you realize that because of his will that was probably fake and filed right before his death. So the will was signed on July 7th in Los Angeles by three witnesses. But Jackson's family pointed out that he was in New York that day and there's video proving it. So they changed their story.
Candace
BREAKING NEWS: I Know The Truth About Justin Bieber. | Candace Ep 175
But the witnesses definitely saw it and it was just in New York. So anyways, because of this will, John Branca was put in charge of his estate. which included his net worth of $230 million, but far more importantly, his 50% share of Sony ATV worth $750 million. Yes, he was taking on Sony. He was going after the hand that feeds him.
Candace
BREAKING NEWS: I Know The Truth About Justin Bieber. | Candace Ep 175
And when you look into John Branca, in 2003, Jackson fired Branca because he was siphoning money out of Jackson's accounts in collusion with Sony Music CEO Tommy Mottola and funneling it through a bunch of offshore accounts in the Caribbean.
Candace
BREAKING NEWS: I Know The Truth About Justin Bieber. | Candace Ep 175
john bronca is jewish and tommy mottola is also jewish plus tommy mottola married mariah carey part way through his life when she was a young young woman he was an old man and there are other allegations about that whole situation you can look up on your own
Candace
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I think that when you study the MKUltra files, and this is where there's a lot of conspiracy theories that are hard to prove, there's a bunch of witness victim testimony, but it's hard to prove, is the Monarch programs are an alleged program that never got disclosed. And that's all the programs that are hidden behind child sexual abuse being a part of mind control.
Candace
BREAKING: Judge Makes Statement Regarding Taylor Swift's Text Messages. | Candace Ep 155
Because a lot of the drugs, like...
Candace
BREAKING: Judge Makes Statement Regarding Taylor Swift's Text Messages. | Candace Ep 155
they can break people's minds and they can be involved in mind control but a lot of those papers talk about dissociative identities identity disorder as like the holy grail of that manchurian candidate concept and it makes a lot of sense if you know what just how dissociative identity disorder works right and that is most commonly associated with dark grim childhood sexual abuse
Candace
BREAKING: Judge Makes Statement Regarding Taylor Swift's Text Messages. | Candace Ep 155
And then you get all these victim testimonies, hundreds and hundreds of people these days talking about how they were a part of these programs. Like people that were on Epstein's Island that claimed to have been victimized as children and subjected to mind control experiments paired with childhood sexual abuse.
Candace
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like go of it politically in those earlier days especially and then through the civil rights movement they saw oh my goodness these people can really organize these people can really put like project quality arguments and make a difference we need to figure out and i'm i'm you know speculating a little bit as to the connections from a to b but you wind up with black culture being propped up by a whole bunch of blackmailers and really corrupt celebrities that are pulling strings in order to promote the most degenerate artists you could ever promote
Candace
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in order to promote culture that is a direct pipeline to prison, which is basically used as slave labor today by all the biggest corporations like Starbucks, McDonald's, Verizon. Like you're calling your Verizon sales rep and some of those calls are going into prisons to people that are getting paid like cents per hour.
Candace
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And I eventually I went and checked it out once. I think it was actually once you started talking about, I was like, maybe I should see what she said in her newsletter. And it was just so out of left field because I've, I've treated her as nothing but nice. I really enjoyed her. I saw her as like a friend in the industry, had her on podcasts multiple times. Um,
Candace
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And so the way that the black community has been undermined since the sort of 80s and 90s Through rap music is a big part of it is so tragic. And I think that the seeds are sowed in that time period of the Black Panthers being such a threat, not a physical violent threat in most cases, but rather a political threat.
Candace
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I do. I always try to remind myself that there's factors I don't know at play. There's factors that I might not understand. But at the same time, you are right that... What how grievous would those factors have to be for them to legitimize this sort of an action from RFK Jr. based upon what we know, like what he knows about Sirhan Sirhan.
Candace
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And like that's his dad that Sirhan Sirhan allegedly killed. Right. And you did a great piece on that the other day. And it is tragic that I assume my presumption is that there's a compromise being made in his mind of I can put this issue to the side if it allows me to tackle this issue being like the vaccines and the health and all that.
Candace
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But then the problem is that I put out that video that blew the world up. And I'm getting contacted by like Maha moms that have been involved in the movement for 10 years and by other people that were in the campaign. And one of the main like rumor mill concerns is that the vaccine stuff seems to not be being taken seriously.
Candace
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Yeah. Yeah. So I like guest host on a podcast called the Club Maha podcast. And we had had her in, I think, two or three times as like a guest host, just like hanging out, talking, talking smack and just having a good time. And I had no understanding that I was a bad person. And I think the first dig was like about like boys.
Candace
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It seems like we are diverting to food over and over and over, which is good. And that's great. And I'm happy we're getting food dye out of our food. But let's be real. Millions of people were harmed and killed by this bioweapon that we know now was engineered by our government and our deep state and then was leaked out of a lab that we were running.
Candace
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And then the vaccines were also already like funded and helped make like the CIA helped make the mRNA technology that was used in those vaccines. And then the liability shields, like the amount of evidence that is being compiled as to the multibillion dollar profit. And the multimillion dollar death toll of this scam.
Candace
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And we're in that window right now where if they get away with it, like I said, it's like a post 2008 feeling to me where if we let them get away with it for enough years, no one's going to ever be held accountable and they're going to just go free with their billion dollar paychecks and no one held accountable. Right.
Candace
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And I can't help but wonder if the Maha movement has been infiltrated in some way in order to make compromises that you can do this, but not this. You can get this done, but it's just politics. This is just how it works. And I guess we just can't. Whoopsies. I guess the vaccine thing is too controversial to do now.
Candace
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And the fact that it's the movement is called America first originally. And that is a stroke of genius because it is so hard. They're trying their best, but it's so hard to make what they're doing look America first.
Candace
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And they're trying to do all these backwards arguments like how is passing speech laws that that like in some cases criminalize or at the very least, you know, kick you out of school, pull your federal funding if you criticize Israel. There are no laws about racism in America. There's no, if you Google right now, there is no recognized definition of racism by our government.
Candace
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But if you Google America's official definition of antisemitism, there's a whole page on the State Department's website about antisemitism. And so how do you call this America first when we are explicitly going against our first amendment of our constitution on behalf of a different nation? And inside of those
Candace
Candace Owens x Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 171
Like it was about the Joe Rogan interview and about boys sort of like running the narrative or something. I forget exactly what she said in it, but it kind of was like water off the back, whatever. This is weird.
Candace
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guidelines they specifically say that saying that people jewish people would have more allegiance to israel than to america because they're jewish that's anti-semitic to say while out of their mouths they're saying we need to do these things for israel or like i am a jew first above all else things like that that are like what are we how are we going along with this cognitive dissonance
Candace
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Um, and then I started to follow what you were doing and as partway through, which is what I said in the video I posted that became really controversial is partway through your video that first dug it open. I realized that I knew this Emily Hagan that you were talking about and I just put two and two together and I was like, what is going on?
Candace
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I don't know how fast it'll happen, but in Europe, it's already happening. And if you notice the language, the IHRA definition, they've always been very intentional to say a non-legally binding definition, which to me is a direct setup for where they're going.
Candace
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And this is something that people like, to their credit, people like Whitney Webb have been talking about for quite some time, that the surveillance state is...
Candace
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vastly like the vast majority of the surveillance state is built on israeli technology by israeli tech firms and palantir is a great example palantir funded jd vance to the nines jd vance is like his whole inspiration for politics came from the palantir and peter teal uh And so those companies, they have massive AI-led databases that are just surveillance maximal.
Candace
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And they have surveillance on our phones. They have surveillance in our schools. They have surveillance in our EMS response systems. And those databases are cataloging everything that we're doing. And we don't really have a lot of transparency on what they're cataloging.
Candace
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But when I'm looking at the policies and I'm looking at where Europe has gone with said policies, and I'm looking at the people that are behind the policies in America, I'm To me, it looks like a direct walk from you are anti-Semitic to you support terrorists to you're a domestic terrorist. Now we have a reason to come after you. And I don't think that America will stand for it.
Candace
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And I immediately went to her Instagram and watched like an hour of stories and. It was, yeah, game over at that point.
Candace
Candace Owens x Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 171
I think that Americans are wise. And I think that we were raised on a culture of liberty and freedom and freedom of speech. And I think that they're trying to do a thing that is impossible to do, but it's only impossible to do because of people like you, because of people like Tucker, because of people in the media.
Candace
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I mean, even people like Joe Rogan, who gets called controlled opposition all the time, like he chose to have the conversation he had with me. He chose to have conversations with people about vaccines. Like people will only go so far. And we have this media environment now where people that are wise and capable have enough reach to speak out and to counter narrative.
Candace
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And if we didn't, I would think that we'd already be there. But I think they're going to try their hardest because it is an existential threat to the survival of the state of Israel, which is an existential threat to all Jews, is how a lot of people see it, even though that is anti-Semitic to say, based upon their new speech laws.
Candace
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He helped red pill me in the first place. He helped get me thinking more critically about my beliefs when I was a leftist start. And it was BLM that that red pilled me because I was living in Bellingham, which is like micro Seattle. And my roommates were going out to like multi thousand person protests in Seattle and then coming back and being mass Nazis. And I was like, what is going on, guys?
Candace
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This doesn't make sense. And I was watching the live streams of what was actually happening in Seattle and the chop in the Chaz, like pallets of bricks, all sorts of stuff. I think BLM is a good example of another movement that probably right from the very start was infiltrated by these people that run COINTELPRO and run these operations.
Candace
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And a lot of the black people that were involved in that, I think, had legitimate perspectives and legitimate grievances that would have gone about it a much different way had they been the ones solely in control of the movement.
Candace
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But when you get your fangs in one of these movements early on, you can, and the CIA has been studying this stuff since the 60s and before, of how do you direct narratives to get people to follow things like cults, to get people to sort of be brainwashed by ideas, not just through hypnosis and drugs, because that's how you get people doing your job for you, going on TV, even though you're not an operative, you're on TV vehemently defending people
Candace
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Israel at all costs or vehemently defending transgenderism at all costs, even though your arguments make zero sense. And even like the slightest bit of conversation exposes what's going on here.
Candace
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If you control enough of the media and enough of the airwaves and you have enough people brainwashed to do this job for you, you can really take a movement like BLM right from the start and push it exactly where you want to go.
Candace
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Well, Miriam Adelson is going to get her money's worth. That's for dang sure. Right. And so I just I always think back to one of the most awesome moments in political history, which was Trump on stage in the first debate rounds in the primaries in 2015, probably with Jeb Bush on stage. And Trump says those are all their donors in the audience.
Candace
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And I couldn't get any because it's only seats for donors. And I don't want your money. I don't need your money. And it was such a slap in the face moment. And that was it. Maybe it was the same Trump. Maybe it was all an act. I don't know. But that energy is long gone. It's gone.
Candace
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And I mean, I'm optimistic about some of the things that are being done right now, but a lot of people are right on the money that Biden... Whoever was behind Biden crashed so much, so intentionally, so obviously, that it's hard not to wonder if that wasn't an intentional setup to lay the groundwork for Trump to get a whole bunch of easy wins, right?
Candace
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Because now Trump is coming in and Elon and him are doing all these easy wins that, yes, they are good at face value. And a lot of them are critical to have done. But they aren't even moving us back past the baseline in some instances. And in some instances, they're actually creating a major void where, oh, we don't need all these bureaucrats to work this job. We should replace them with AI.
Candace
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Like, we don't need all these people to do these jobs. We got technology that can take this over. And this is where the people on the internet that have been sort of ostracized for a long time talking about technocracy and about how we're walking closer and closer to this digital surveillance state. It's never been a popular take because it goes against both parties.
Candace
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But they've been sounding the alarm on Trump for a long time. And I'm not ready to say that they're necessarily right, but I am ready to say that everyone should be paying attention to this angle.
Candace
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Well, I'm being pushed by Qatar. So, you know, you've got to have a Middle Eastern country to back all of us.
Candace
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And so there's... I understand. So coming from the left has been really useful for me because I understand a lot of the arguments on the other side. This isn't really a left right thing, but I was taken in for a long time and I still sometimes I entertain the idea that, yeah, technology is coming regardless. We will march on. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Candace
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Candace
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And it's coming from all directions. And so it was during that watching your your video and then I paused and went to Emily Hagen's Instagram feed. And so your video had just dropped an hour or two ago.
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and to getting access to the technocrats and getting into digital blackmail and he was funding projects like these palantir style projects carbine 911 is a good example where suddenly you don't even need blackmail operations because you've got everyone addicted to porn and you've got them all on this weird next thing that ai is putting in front of their faces and so suddenly all you need to do is have access to their computers and their phones and most people are immoral anyways and don't follow god because they've demonized god pretty darn good
Candace
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And so we were they're trying their best to race to adapt those old systems. And I think in a lot of cases, they're not capable of doing it. But they are powerful systems. And we do need to be careful. We do need to talk about it, because I think that a lot like we live in this bubble of thinkers. We live with an audience of of intelligent people that want to know more about the world.
Candace
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But the vast majority of Americans are still like, what did sexy red do today? Like, oh, my gosh, I love sexy red.
Candace
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And that had inspired people that I knew in my network that had been in Maha, that had been in Maga, people that have a decade plus in this industry to reach out to me and be like, I know more about the situation. This is what happened.
Candace
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That is so think about how weird it is to reflect on that.
Candace
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Why would the school be telling you to watch pornography for the exact same reason why they would be telling boys that they can become girls and girls that they can become boys? Right. And this is a message directly to men. So if you can't get behind the theological reasoning for it and you can't get behind the blackmail reasoning for it, you don't think you're ever going to be important enough.
Candace
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Get behind the success reason for it, because pornography deeply kills your drive for success. And it deeply disconnects you from the world. And it deeply disconnects you from your masculinity and your testosterone systems. And when you're watching porn, you are just sedated. You are naturally sedated. And I understand. I grew up in the generation that porn was put in front of our faces.
Candace
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And our parents had no understanding of what it was and what was happening. And most people in my generation saw their first pornography at age 8 or 11 at their friend's house. And so everyone in the millennial generation sort of had to find their own way through that narrative and almost no one escaped.
Candace
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But it is on us to escape from it and to realize that if you let yourself stay in that hole, that will forever tarnish your relationships with women. And you will never be able to know the true depth of happiness that you can have when you start a family and love your wife and raise children and be a good role model. And That's so pervasive today.
Candace
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And some of them were about things that House and Habit that Jessica Reed Krause had said during the campaign to them while drinking, things like that, that like it is hearsay. But it's also like from very reliable people of direct interactions with her saying things that you should never be saying out loud about anyone unless you want to spread horrible information about them. Right.
Candace
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And so many people are deep in that pit or even just a little bit in that pit because it's no big deal. that if you don't watch it, you are in the top 0.01% of men inherently. And that's in terms of how your brain works, in terms of how your body works, in terms of your testosterone, all these things. And it's just the most obvious and it's very difficult. It's very difficult for men, I think.
Candace
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And especially some of the most capable men have some of, and same with women. It's like the most capable women, the most beautiful women, the women that understand how to manipulate the systems the best, They're the ones that are like, why wouldn't I engage in these behaviors? Why wouldn't I make free money? Like, I don't even need to show this stuff.
Candace
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I can just do this stuff and I'll make a million dollars. But it is subversive in every way, not just politically and blackmail, but also just culturally and dividing families and dividing our what makes the soul of America.
Candace
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And so I'm trying very hard not to spread because a lot of his rumors of accusations of that person's a plant or that person slept with that person or that person's doing that thing. And it's like, I don't think that we need to be spreading rumors about specifics about people, because unless you have smoking guns, that is extremely complicated to unpack.
Candace
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There is a lot of repressed weird sexuality in Japan.
Candace
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And that's a whole other category. But it is like because this is a global force and who knows who's behind it.
Candace
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But there is a global force kind of pushing for these things, because when you separate families, when you divide cultures and nations and like the things that keep us tight together and divide all that, we are so much more easily controlled, more easily depressed, more easily medicated, more and more lonely and in need of the government to give us things to satiate us and to just, you know, pass the time and to make life bearable while we go to work every day.
Candace
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And, um, I just, you're, you're on the point of like sort of how sex has always sold and it's getting more and more overt, but there's this other aspect that is, that I've been noticing and it's OnlyFans and that OnlyFans at first, it was so easy for people to paint it as like this great
Candace
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where they're going to empower the creators and they're going to make the porn industry safer and they're going to like let the women be in control. And then OnlyFans started doing PG content where they would take porn stars and OnlyFans creators and they would have them do normal TV shows. And this is happening right now.
Candace
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So it's like a travel show or like a cooking show, but it's like a porn star doing a cooking show so that then you can have this porn star on TV on mainstream daytime television and you can have your five-year-old, your eight-year-old, your 12-year-old watching a porn star cook food. And it's totally normal.
Candace
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And that is like subversion 101 is start to just blur the lines more and more and get more and more people make it normalized, make it part of culture and society the exact same way that LGBTQIA plus is just like just trying to bleed into our schools and into our like as though it's just normal. And I pray and like I pray that we are waking up in time because for me, it was this learning.
Candace
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It was programs like yours and learning about how subversive all this is and how hard the devil seems to be working to weed its way into everything. That's what got me to think about the Bible in the first place. And I'm still on my own journey trying to figure that out and trying to figure out what I believe.
Candace
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But I was raised with no religion and it was learning about how evil some of these people are and how they are directly trying to subvert Christian religion. That's what got me to be like, huh. That's weird. I wonder what's on the other side of that debate.
Candace
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But the totality of the evidence from people like from everyone, from like Maha moms to people in the MAGA campaign to people that were on Kennedy's direct campaign around him.
Candace
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And as a white person, I should have the spine to be like, cool. I'm not like I don't care.
Candace
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um stuff about everyone involved and everyone has their own stories and their own theories and and it's it's not clear which theories are exactly right but you start to get a sense of what the picture probably is and and the thing that i keep coming back to is that
Candace
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They had a very clear mandate coming in and it was America first in every sense of the word. And the deportation stuff has been a huge mess, right? Like so much of the government, you know, getting the government uncorrupted kind of been a mess. Some of it's been great.
Candace
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It's been easy to paint it on Twitter and get lots of views for, you know, promoting his last thing that he cut or the last thing that he, you know, uncovered and exposed, which a lot of that Doge stuff was actually publicly available information in the first place. Like a lot of that was already out there. And at the same time, the real like Israel first bent to it all is scary.
Candace
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And the and the J.D. Vance Peter Thiel connection where J.D. Vance is getting propped up as like 2028 presidential run kind of material is scary because J.D. Vance is very skilled. And I've really enjoyed everything he said on camera. Like he is an excellent public speaker and his debate was amazing. And I didn't know anything about him beforehand. And he's very good at what he does.
Candace
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But when you actually research how he came up and how he got put into that position, who funded him all the way up, it just looks like they're setting us up for 2028 to be the next step down this road and trying to keep themselves positioned as the good guys. It's like they need us to be on their team right behind them on team victory all the way.
Candace
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It would be—and you did a great job of this on your show the other day—is that it would be weirder for there not to be campaigns targeting Bobby than for there to be something targeting Bobby. You would be a fool to think that there are not blackmail operations targeting him and trying to get control of him, as they have done to every Kennedy in the history of Kennedys. So—
Candace
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I mean, you said they've aged out. I would argue that they have truthed out in the sense that the decentralized media has opened all of us up. So they can't control what everyone's seeing and hearing anymore. And the truth is so powerful. And, you know, you might say God is so powerful because the thing. So there's this quote I always come back to.
Candace
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And I heard it from Ryan Dawson first, but it might have been older than that. And it was, That a lie needs to be spoken a thousand times to be believed. The truth only once.
Candace
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And it's because you need to just hammer that into people. But the truth just spreads itself because everyone has a brain. Everyone has a soul. Everyone instinctively does hear God deep down inside of them that like in their own heart, telling them what's true. And when you hear truth, you know it. Right. Right.
Candace
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And I think that they're doing everything they can to divorce people from truth, divorce people from God, divorce people from each other, and then fill their alone time with garbage. Because it's when you're alone that it's just you and God. It's just you and your soul, right? And if you are the kind of person that can't be alone, that can't have a night alone at home without...
Candace
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drinking or smoking or watching porn or doing all these other things and it's like i'm not judging you i have no you know like i have i'm not a perfect person throughout my life either but if if you aren't the kind of person that can just be with yourself that can just read a book and be at peace can be with your own thoughts and be at peace that is their goal is to stop us from being able to do that to stop us from believing in who we are and being able to connect as real human to human
Candace
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which is what Maha is all about. Maha is all about getting back to being healthy humans that have healthy habits, that have healthy relationships, that build a strong country and community, right?
Candace
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Um, that the totality of the evidence that there is some layer of control, which is not a new thought, that's not some breaking news. It's the breaking news was that the, the greatest unforced error in the history of like, I mean, I'm being facetious, but like house and habits, unforced error here is out of control. Like a, you didn't need to start this drama B, you didn't need to keep it going.
Candace
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It only elevates them. It only helps magnify the truth.
Candace
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I'm funded by Madagascar. I didn't want to the news leaked that Madagascar had so much tariffs. And so now it's kind of out there. But but I'm actually quite poor.
Candace
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And my plan is to start taking my job a lot more seriously and being more effective because through all the slings and arrows, through the crazy rise I've had and through I've I've purposely not actually gotten very much money because I didn't want to work with big companies. I didn't want to take brand deals. And I still I still don't. I want to do my own thing my own way.
Candace
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And through all this madness, I've seen how messy the Twitter sphere can get, how messy the online kind of back and forth can get. And so I've been really inspired by people like you that are more on their own train of thought and more doing their own takes and their own research and just staying in that lane and not getting distracted by all the noise.
Candace
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And so I'm trying to focus more on YouTube and more on the products and the corporation stuff along the side too. There's a whole other thing coming out around that that I'll be talking about in the next month or so.
Candace
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Um, and just do my own thing and and sort of like You're right that we're all so happy and it's because we have Things that we're working on that matter that means something to us that fill our life with meaning And I think that's the best indicator of are you on the right path? Is are you doing things that fill your life with meaning that even while the world is burning all around you?
Candace
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You still know that you and your family are on the right path and i'm on it and I feel it and I love it and it's amazing And i'm just getting better and better at honing in on what is that path and keeping all the other noise out. So
Candace
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Yeah, yeah. They can follow me on X at Ian Carroll Show. And I have a new website that is a part of this new direction I'm going, which is CancelIanCarroll.com, which is where I've moved all the merch to. So I don't have to deal with my own merch anymore. I got a company helping me with that. And that is the best place to follow along for more updates because there are more updates coming.
Candace
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My YouTube channel as well. I'll be doing a lot more on that. And that is Cancel Ian Carroll on YouTube.
Candace
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And then C you didn't need to like do every single thing she's done since then has just felt more and more like, We're not she's not being honest about what her real role is here.
Candace
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You know, she started blaming other people for their alcohol consumption.
Candace
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And the thing, I don't know if you've seen Brett Weinstein's recent episodes, but he's been doing a couple of long podcasts, two hours plus lately. Digging into one in particular a couple of days ago was a really lucid look at the different layers of what blackmail can actually be. I think a lot of Americans are just now starting to conceptualize a blackmail in the last five years.
Candace
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And a lot of Americans still think of blackmail as just Jeffrey Epstein or nothing. And that is not the nature of this thing. And Brett pointed out very astutely that a lot of blackmail in the political arena actually appears as friendship, probably.
Candace
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As in, if you're a wild partier back in your day or you have sexual proclivities or whatever it is and you do something stupid and your friend comes to you and is like, dude, what did you do? That's a huge mistake. We shouldn't have done that. Like, look, I'll help you cover that up. I'll help take care of this and make sure I'll protect you from this and make sure it never affects your campaign.
Candace
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You just keep doing you and I've got your back. Right. And that is like, oh, thank gosh, I have such a good friend. Feels so good to have such a good friend. And then, you know, three months later, that friend comes to you and is like, hey, listen, I really think that we shouldn't hire this person. Like, it wouldn't be a good move. And you say, well, I'd like them.
Candace
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And it's like, yeah, we shouldn't hire them. And we have a discussion about it. And then they leave the room. And then you think, huh. That person, I can't go against that person. That person is my closest confidant and they know things about me that no one else does. How could I, I guess I shouldn't hire that person, right? And that's just one example.
Candace
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There's so many layers of how blackmail can appear in lots of different ways. And I personally, I think that Bobby does have a strong soul and he does have that Kennedy mindset of his lineage and what he stands for. And so I doubt he would be able to be blackmailed in an overt way do this or else way, or at least not at first. But at first, maybe the blackmail is small.
Candace
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Maybe it's just simple things. And you never know what kind of leverages people get over politicians. And eventually you wind up with Rabbi Shmuley hanging out with you and declaring antisemitism the greatest health crisis in America today or whatever it is.
Candace
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All you people that think that Jews control the world, you know what we'll do? We'll all pass laws that say you can't say that. That'll teach them. Like, clearly these people have never taught young kids. When you teach young kids, you learn that you can't tell young kids, like, you can't do that double think with young people these days. They see right through it.
Candace
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And it only enhances their conviction and actually creates more real anti-Semitism, as well as just, you know, basic noticing of facts.
Candace
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Um, I don't remember where I was or what I was doing. Didn't really register that much. I got a text message cause I don't check my emails and I got a, Oh, I do remember who sent it to me. It was, it was like, like a aunt that adopted me sort of that mess. He's like, did you see what house and habit said in her newsletter? It's like, I thought. And I was like, no, I didn't.
Candace
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So damning in so many ways. And it's not to mention that so chaos is the one where they're like surveilling and targeting and smearing and libeling these protesters. But that's overlapped over COINTELPRO, which was instated by J. Edgar Hoover more so, although COINTELPRO tactics are universal.
Candace
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But that's actually causing dissidents to fight each other, causing like spreading rumors about Black Panthers sleeping with each other's wives, spreading, you know, salacious details that may or may not be true about Martin Luther King or other things. And it's to be clear, a lot of the rumors about Martin Luther King were probably somewhat true, but...
Candace
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But just sowing division amongst the ranks and getting people to fight each other. And that was all enacted by J. Edgar Hoover, who was being blackmailed by the Jewish mob for his sexual perversions at the time. And so it's such a funny and tragic rewrite of like the exact same history is rhyming all over again in so many ways.
Candace
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And it actually ties into another. The thing that initially brought us together in content was Diddy is that once they saw how powerful this these black movements could be because black people have had such a bad.
Candace
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I mean, clean your room, Jordan. We've all seen the clip of Jordan's room. Like, you know, raise your kids in a way that's like... And I mean, I don't even want to go into the other things that Jordan like pathologizing you, the healthy Catholic woman that's raising, you know, soon to be four kids versus pathologizing Jordan.
Candace
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It's not an it's not a comfortable conversation to have once you start looking at it, you know, clearly. And it's so backwards that he would try to pathologize you in his shoes.
Candace
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And now Justin, they are attacking what they can attack. And, um, Um, once Justin's close, you know, circle started coming out and telling people what was really going on, it became very apparent that the smear tactics being used to sort of pathologize Justin and to make his fans worried about him and give him this kind of like manufactured crisis. It's the exact same pattern.
Candace
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Yeah, or just like, I want to believe what Anthony Fauci himself said about masks three months ago at the start of COVID. Psychopaths? Yeah, I just want to believe what he said about herd immunity three months ago in official statements, and then suddenly it's the opposite. Machiavellian. But I'm a psychopath for all that.
Candace
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And I think that during COVID, we got a certain flavor of getting over trust the experts. And a lot of people woke up to the fact that like these health experts can be controlled. But now the Douglas Murray thing, the Jordan Peterson thing and everyone that's been in between there. And I think the big picture...
Candace
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The thing that I think immediately is if you look at the timing there, it's like 1890s, 1900s, kind of like turn of the century, like the Gilded Age, the Industrial Revolution has peaked. And we're talking, that's the robber barons, you know, the Federal Reserve is about to be founded. Like that's the JP Morgans of this world.
Candace
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That's the, if I'm not mistaken, the Carnegie's and the Vanderbilt's that is the era of sort of like this peak wealth disparate, like disparagement between this upper class, this lower class, but very tight media control. Like, you know, most people are still illiterate. Most people there's certainly no, there's not TV or any kind of information dissemination yet, but,
Candace
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So they existed in a world where you had these extremely wealthy elites doing Lord knows what, that they would need people like Sigmund Freud explaining these things, right? And they're getting on the train where the European trend of central banking and funding wars from both sides and stuff was pretty well underway by 1900, but they hadn't yet gotten the Federal Reserve.
Candace
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So we're in this era where the powerful elite of the world, these globalist elites of the world, like They were at the top of their game and about to perform their greatest coup d'etat of all time, which is the Federal Reserve. So I'm just looking at the timing there of when Freud kind of gave them this nugget. And I'm not surprised that he's protected.
Candace
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I'm not surprised that he got built into all those Ivy League institutions because they had so much power and control at that time. And it was a time when they like if you look back in history, some there's some eras like the Iran-Contra era where the deep state clearly fumbled the ball multiple times.
Candace
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And I mean, it looks like the kind of thing that they're doing every time someone threatens them or someone that is very powerful or important or influential tries to get away from them. And in some ways, I think that the Justin one is almost more targeted because it's not he's not going after the whole industry.
Candace
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But then there's certain eras where the deep state, whatever groups are in there, clearly were nailing it. And like the 1900s to 1930s era is let's just say they were really on point.
Candace
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And I mean, Hollywood Babylon is a perfect book to highlight that because they don't really focus on where people are from, but they do clearly focus on the moral degradation of America through Hollywood and how those Hollywood executives knew what they were doing and were doing it intentionally. And it was illegal.
Candace
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It really feels like this one is kind of Scooter specifically taking personal offense to what's going on here. And Scooter kind of got trapped in the middle of this deal with Hybe. So I think that it's sort of a case where you have a specific, I don't want to say mobster, but, you know, someone that sort of feels like a mobster.
Candace
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Like the things that they were publishing were so morally reprehensible to the culture that America used to have that they were illegal and they actually had to like slow walk it over time. And you can see in that book how different American morals and virtue used to be. Mm-hmm.
Candace
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I mean, they speak clearly about their hate for Christianity.
Candace
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And their disdain for Christianity. A lot of those communist revolutionaries in that 1900 era were explicit that their goal was to overthrow Christian religion and Christian nations.
Candace
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Yeah, it's like this is the kind of report like these types of stories are the ones that do make me genuine genuinely question. Is there some sort of Illuminati conspiracy going on here? Because a lot of days it's easy for me to fall back into the like kind of mundane conspiracies of like, yeah, that corporation is conspiring with that one and that that billionaire is conspiring in that one thing.
Candace
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And all that does happen. But when you look at these bigger pictures, like the gender ideology stuff, communism stuff, you know, the control of Hollywood and the music industry, those are the places where it does really like there is actual evidence, not just it's not just harebrained theories, like evidence.
Candace
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So Scooter was hemorrhaging his client. Scooter is very well known in the industry for not being, shall we say, the nicest guy to work with or for. He's great if you're working for him and he and you're making him money and you're making him like fame and success.
Candace
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And when you look at it happening over and over and over again across many generations of musicians, many generations of music stars or sorry, movie stars, that that is not the kind of thing that is evidence of one little thing.
Candace
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Going into debt is different than paying for it. Create fake money that didn't exist before that you don't have that you're going to be paying off for the next 20 years, the rest of your life, whatever it is.
Candace
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But they will repackage your debt and collateralize it and then make money off it four ways till Sunday while you work to pay it off. Right.
Candace
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But over and over, you know, artists throughout this his career have left him and said that he's great until he doesn't need you anymore and then you're discarded. And he had lost all of his artists, including like Ariana Grande, for example, the Taylor Swift drama. And Justin was like his last big name.
Candace
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It's not. And it's the only thing they really seem to have in their arsenal is either censorship, shut it all down, or try to play on that sort of brain barrier they built into everyone they've educated in terms of like, you can't listen to that person. They're a kook. Don't listen to Candace. She's a psycho. But the problem is that they only have to hear you once in your original form to
Candace
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And he sold his whole business, Ethical Holdings, to Hive, which is the K-pop company, which is very like the Korean mafia of music. And I'm pretty sure that was in 2021. That predates this kind of Justice World Tour fiasco where Justin's face was paralyzed and Justin, you know. incurred all this debt.
Candace
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And like they just have to hear more than 15 seconds. And then suddenly the next 10 seconds they go, wait a minute. You didn't share that other part that she said where she gave the source. Right. And ironically, often people in our shoes are so much better about sharing our sources because it matters to us. A, because we care because it's the right thing to do.
Candace
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But B, because our livelihoods are on the line. And if you don't share your sources, you're in big trouble. Right. Whereas the mainstream media rarely shares their sources. And often when they do, like Politico is famous. My favorite thing about Politico is they'll share their sources and it'll be a link to other Politico articles.
Candace
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And you'll just go in little Politico circles around from article to article without any actual primary sources anywhere.
Candace
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So it kind of feels from my perspective that I'm assuming that Scooter kind of saw the writing on the wall and was trying to move out of this position of managing talent because no more talent was with him and into this executive role. And he managed that and he sold what he had for a billion dollars to Hybe.
Candace
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That's why you're so good at it, really, is because, I mean, in order to be a real, what is it, pharisaical pretender parasite, you know, you got to get them started young. And I just love how he uses so much jargony, jargony baloney to say, you know, essentially what, like, I'm not saying that Jordan is doing that, but he sure is getting close to the sun where...
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
And this company, Ithaca Holdings, was like making less than $200 million a year in revenue, I believe. So it's like they're selling it at this crazy high valuation. And presumably that's because it includes the future perpetual rights to Justin Bieber and his brand.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
We're having discussions with sources about what we're seeing in the news the way that our like journalists are supposed to do. And now we have a psychologist weaseling his way in there to get into the discussion and say, oh, stop talking like you're psycho. You're psycho. You're a parasite. Shut it down. I have big words.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
It's like, OK, bro, you're not a part of this discussion because we're talking about stuff over here with sources. Do you want to talk about the facts? You want to call us a liar? Like, do you want to do you want to discuss the evidence that we're talking about or just call everybody names?
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
And I think that a lot of these people that are, you know, continuing this gaslighting campaign, both the ones in front of the screen and probably the ones behind the screen, I think a lot of them are probably older people. And I think a lot of them don't understand, A, the exact power of the way social media really does spread and the way that people really do.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
Like, I don't think they realize how much better the audience of young people is at reading comments and at checking the like ratios and at checking the reposts and at like getting the whole side of the story. I don't think they realize how much they're failing at this because they actually don't know how to use the medium anywhere near as well as the audience does.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
And so they're just continually blundering and blundering and blundering. And Douglas Murray and Jordan Peterson are just two examples, but they are stark examples of these sort of like kind of dinosaur neocons trying these outdated tactics that really just make you look better.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
And so, yeah, so this Hybe sale, this Hybe deal is critical because it happens before the Justice World Tour. Justin then goes on this crazy more than a year long world tour where he happens to get COVID at the start of it. And then he happens to get an injury that looks an awful lot like a vaccine injury.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
And for like how much of a ride you've been on and how big you've blown up, you're like one of the least narcissistic people in this entire industry. And I've met a lot of people in this industry by now. And, you know, a lot of them are great, but there are some narcissists in this industry and you're definitely not one of them. You're super chill.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
Just trying to learn stuff and have fun. And yeah, like Douglas Murray calling, like trying to pose to Joe that I was an expert. My literal Twitter bio says not an expert in anything but sarcasm. And you're so right that it's water off your back.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
And you said something really important that I want to highlight is that when you have love in your human relationships in your real life with real connections with real people that fill you up every day.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
the internet is just you know a game that you play on your phone and it does not matter and i think that unfortunately america is so full of people without love in their immediate life without real connections without marriages that are happy without parental relationships that are happy that a lot of people actually are missing real human connection and so the internet becomes this stand-in for human connection but the internet is especially x is made to feed off of hatred and anger and arguments and and the algorithm is really good at feeding you angry arguments too
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
And so so many people get turned into rage bots when they really are a good person in their own heart. They just don't have anything filling their heart up to help them stay in that energy.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
Exactly. And he winds up with half his face paralyzed, can't continue. Um, and so I'm, I'm not super clear on all the specifics cause I don't have any like files or anything. It was just what I was told about the situation. But, um, apparently the tour was booked out on advances, which is not uncommon for the industry as far as I'm aware, but it was such a big tour.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
Maybe the wrong strategy. If you get caught being a fake rape accuser, essentially, maybe don't go grifting off of other rape situations so quickly.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
We're talking hundreds of millions, at least tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars advanced. And so when he's partway through this tour and then can't continue, suddenly there's a And obviously then Justin goes to his management and is like, so we have insurance, right? This is no problem. We have insurance for this kind of a thing.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
And I'm only here today to be the fake victim of racism because my great-grandpappy was really a victim of racism. That's so bizarre.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
What? Well, it's also like from a technical standpoint, it was kind of a confusing telling of a story because if I heard her right, it was that her mom had heard an account of a survivor. And then during an abuse situation, her mom was in that other accounting had inspired her mom to, it was a, It was a confusing story a little bit.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
And so from like a storyteller's perspective, as you know, as we are people that communicate for a living, I I was a little lost on what actually the story was and what the the gala was not about. Was the gala about rape at all?
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
I mean, Brigitte McCrone would have done well to do the exact same thing. Listen, Janice, I'm sorry. I was tripping. I know I kind of like married my nephew allegedly, but I was tripping. That would still have been a better move than what they did.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
And allegedly what then was told to him is that, no, you broke your contract. So there is no insurance payout here. You actually have to cover this debt.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
And so Justin's management, whether it was Scooter technically at the helm of this or his other managers that were at the helm of this, that management team managed him in such a way that the most popular pop star, like one of the most popular pop stars in the world,
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
Don't worry, I can be a fake Christian too, Candice. I can do it. I mean, my fake earpiece is falling out. So I'm like, I need to pull out my calendar to make sure I get the dates right here.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
Yeah, May 12th is the first day I'll be here.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
Yeah. Yeah. May 12th is that Monday. And then we'll probably we'll probably doing three episodes a week. And if I'm really crushing it and keeping up because you work hard, you guys put out a lot of shows. And I mean, it takes a lot of research and such. So if we're crushing three days a week, we might move up to four. But, you know, you set a high bar.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
And so then I'll be here until you need me to be here.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
It's pretty sweet. Your team is awesome. But yeah, I'm scheduled to be here for up to eight weeks, give or take. And, you know, if something goes crazy, I'll be here until you need me. And if you're ready to come back early, then you come back early.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
got saddled with hundreds of thousands of hundreds of millions of dollars worth of debt on a tour that they had mismanaged and that he had had like all of these things reflect on the management and how poor their management style is and are things that if Scooter was really a good manager this would never happen to your artist because he's supposed to work for the artist he's supposed to be like the number one
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
I was trying not to get that dark in my episode about it.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
And to be fair, I think that now that we're all reporting on it, I don't think they can go there. Like there is a certain element where as media figures, we can run protection for these people and we do and we should. That would be pretty obvious. Harley, don't.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
Maybe don't send him away to La La Land.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
You can learn a lot in the early life section.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
I mean, you were saying some uncomfortable truths all along.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
I've been looking at all the tampons, trying to figure out who owns the tampons and the Froot Loops.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
Manager in the industry. So that all happens in the middle. And Justin is trying to get out and scooters on the hook for a billion dollars worth of value. Like he's promised a billion dollars worth of Justin Bieber's future to this Korean company, which he's now on the board of. And so I feel like scooters in the lurch.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
Not only to distract you from your God given life, but to fill up the hole in your soul that you're no longer God given, like no longer godly life leaves you with. It's like sell you this like drug or this distraction or this gluttony or whatever it is, you know.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
Basically, all men are in some way watching it and don't and like, you know, a huge portion of them are in some way addicted to it and don't want to talk about it. And it's uncomfortable because like no one's proud of it, really. And if you are proud of it, maybe you should examine that. And women don't really want to talk like no one's really in a position to bring it up.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
And so the men on the Internet kind of like like someone's got to bring it up.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
And and it's it's it's awkward for everyone that should be talking about it. And it's only not awkward for the people that are like. In it that are part of the problem. So it's I think it's just inherently a conversation that we're going to have to have because now parents are realizing like how ingrained this is in their children's digital space in their media space.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
And if you don't start talking about it, if we don't start talking about how to protect our kids from it. I don't want to know where our world goes.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
Bingo. It's one of the ones you can get young men addicted to without having to put something like in their mouth or in their body or in their clothes. You just have to put a billboard up and suddenly, you know, put an advertisement on, put it in their Instagram reel. And every single boy is forced to contend with, oh, I can just get free this in my phone infinitely forever.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
Because suddenly Scooter can't deliver on this billion dollar promise that he's made. And Justin's trying to escape from that promise because he hates them all. And they're still trying to control him through his other company.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
And especially that biological need that arises out of your own hormonal structure. If you don't have a moral and like it's really a... religious framework to protect you from that sin, for lack of a better word, that desire, then you're going to fall into that trap somehow. And it's only going to get more effective. We have robots coming. We have AI generation coming.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
And so like we're in a very disconnected world and that just spells disconnection all the way to the max. And it's really tragic to me.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
It's just a different kind of temptation. It's a different kind of grappling. And like men. All men growing up, you have to deal with that in your life. Your kids, your young boys are going to have to deal with it. And you as a man have to deal with that.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
You have to figure out, are you going to let this track like let this thing take part of your sovereignty away from you and part of your masculinity away from you? Or are you going to realize that it's your responsibility to decide your relationship with it instead of letting it decide its relationship with you? And it's just it's it's not easy. Like everyone gets it. It's not easy.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
And so it's just it feels to me like everyone is sort of trapped in bad ideas that are sort of leveraged to the hilt in terms of how much money is involved and how many promises are involved and all revolves around Justin continuing to produce music.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
But as more men deal with that, that will help free young women from thinking that this is what every man wants. And it helps free young girls from growing up in a world where they think they have to sell their bodies in order to be high quality. Because nowadays we have this world full of men that don't want to address their side of that equation.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
But they do want to like, I want to marry some like trad wife girl that's like perfect and has never had sex with any other men. Like, bro, are you living up to that standard right now, too? That's the conversation none of these like, you know, manosphere people want to have is like, are you the trad husband that goes with that trad wife?
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
Yeah, we're going to make some people mad.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
Which like anyone who's had a kid or a creative in their life knows that no creative dude like Justin is going to be producing hit singles if he hates you and you're trying to control his whole life.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
No, I just really appreciate it. And I'm just praying for a healthy birth for you and everything to go smooth. And I'll be back here. Praying, you psychopath. I know, right? All these Pharisees out here. And all y'all, I'll see you guys in a couple of weeks. Once I'm done in Austin, I'll come out here and we'll have a good time.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
And so it feels like we're seeing not only these smear campaigns to try to get him back in line coming from Scooter, but it also feels like we're seeing Justin kind of acting out because he has no power. He's in secret litigation. They won't let him open a new clothing company. They won't let him like... you know, faith in God or they're slandering that.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
So it's just, it's messy in every direction.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
Absolutely. I mean, we know full well, not a secret that Hollywood and especially the music industry was founded by the mob and the mafia and the music industry specifically. You can like look into the exact mobsters that are famous for having been the sort of founders of this model. And then you can look at the history of the industry and.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
Yeah, it's really humbling and I'm really glad. I'm proud to be doing it and I'm actually really excited about the stories that I'm kind of working on right now to get ready for.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
And see how they've always treated their artists this way. And they've always embezzled money in these ways and laundered money in these ways. And there's no there's no evidence that it ever stopped. But there is evidence that the same tactics are still being used.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
And to the paparazzi thing, Justin just posted he's been doing it more and more, but he just posted on Instagram a couple days ago, a video of himself trying to walk out of his place with Haley and the paparazzi the way they are there. And I can't help but suspect, like, is that kind of paparazzi attention always around every star or is it only there when someone wants to smear you?
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
And if you look at these dudes' faces, they don't look like creatives. They don't really look like the kind of people you'd expect to be paparazzi photographers. Very harassing.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
People need to know. If anyone's not in the book club, you should join. That book is crazy.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
I never knew it was in a book I could buy and read.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
devilishly intelligent it's such a it's such a smart tactic especially in hollywood in the music industry because you have all these people that you have every case to make that they might be crazy and some of them actually obviously like when you go through trauma if you're an epstein victim or you go through trauma because you're a child star and you were probably molested or drugs or whatever it is and it's very easy to make the case that they might be crazy but
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
Um, I mean, we're still in the middle of whatever's happening to Justin, but it, I mean, I really was building off of a lot of things that you had said and a lot of things that Brett had said.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
Time after time after time, you notice that despite what their mental state might be, the FBI investigated Michael Jackson for 10 years and did not find any evidence of the allegations as one example. Right. And he was very clearly a threat to the music industry. So they keep pathologizing people over.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
When I first heard about Sigmund Freud's like his whole theory in, I think, middle school. It rang some bell. It was like, this is not right. This is weird. The whole Oedipus complex thing, it just does not pass the sniff test even as a child. As an adult, nowhere in between does that pass the sniff test if you're anywhere normal at all.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
So it's kind of crazy that they got away with it passing the sniff test for so long and that it's taught in normal mainstream colleges and universities and community colleges. And no one's asking any questions about this. That is pretty weird.
Candace
Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183
And even if you don't have any inside information, just looking at the pattern in Hollywood, the pattern with all these different stars, and obviously they take a different tactic with each different star based upon whatever they can exploit or whatever they can sort of smear or slander. Like it was different with Michael than it was with Prince and Brittany and yay.
Candace
I Respond To Mr. And Mr. Macron | Candace Ep 131
Was für Aktionen in Israel das größte Gut ist? Ich meine, offensichtlich kannst du keine Leute haben, die, wenn sie wollen, alle in Israel langsam machen. Du musst das stoppen. Es gibt keinen Weg. Ja. Ja. Diese Leute müssen entweder getötet oder verabschiedet werden, oder sie werden einfach mehr Israelis töten. Das ist es, was es anbelangt, offensichtlich.
Candace
I Respond To Mr. And Mr. Macron | Candace Ep 131
Und sie wollen auch Amerikaner töten, übrigens. Und generell, Israel wird als den kleinen Satan in Amerika bezeichnet. Wir sind der große Satan. Das ist es, was die ITOA uns nennt.
Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
But ultimately, this story is about the $100 trillion company and how the CIA may secretly own and control the entire stock market. Und ich meine das mehr oder weniger literally. Die CIA könnte eigentlich fast jeden Stock auf dem Markt besitzen, insbesondere alle Steuern in all euren Vertrauens- und Investitionskonten. Das ist die Geschichte der Depository Trust and Clearing Corporation.
Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
Now, this is a little in the weeds, but because the DTC are in charge of issuing everyone's shares of stock, it's not too complicated of a job, theoretically. But then, when everyone noticed that the public numbers were showing that more than double the number of shares in existence had been borrowed for short selling, i.e. selling something that you don't actually own,
Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
Alarmbells started going off. How is that even remotely possible? Pretty quickly, everyone figured out that no one owns any stock. We are actually all what is called beneficial owners. And that means that we get to play pretend with our little monopoly money and it works fine. But if the shit ever hits the fan, in reality, you don't own it. The DTC does.
Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
And in the world of the stock market, these definitions matter. And so, The freaking retards online found this crazy obscure loophole that it's legal for anyone to take their shares out of the DTC's custody and register them directly in their own name with GameStop's transfer agent.
Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
It's all a little nerdy and a little confusing, but in about a year and a half, we, yes, I am proudly a part of this statistic, we took about a third of the company's shares off of the public market and stashed them all away so they couldn't be used in this corrupt manipulative system.
Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
People even started making rocket ship graphics and counting up how much the company had been taken off the market. And people were creating multiple ways of tracking it to triangulate against one another. And it was a whole deal. But it was a big deal.
Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
GameStop investors realized that all this shady stuff going on, this naked short selling and swaps and failures to deliver, way too much fraud to get into, it all pointed back at the DTC. The giant financial institutions that mostly all sit on its board and the regulators that are asleep at the wheel, also on its board.
Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
The call is coming from inside the house, but they can't hear the phone over the sound of their money printers. Oh yeah, and that whole centralized system, it was set up by a CIA agent who also was integral to the founding of USAID. What a weird coincidence. Nächstes Mal werden wir einen verrückten israelischen Blackmail-Skandal besprechen, über den sehr wenige Menschen sprechen.
Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
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Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
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Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
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Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
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Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
Late last year, a scandal broke out in Italy with some pretty salacious headlines. Vatikan. Israel. Implicated in Italy. Hacking scandal. Leaked files reveal. The headlines were every conspiracy theorist's wet dream. But in this case, they weren't just salacious headlines. The story went even deeper the more reporting came out.
Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
Es beginnt mit William Dentzer, der 1929 geboren wurde, als die Große Depression in Rochester, Pennsylvania, zu zwei mittleren Christen kam. I haven't found anywhere in his biographies or interviews where he talks about how incredibly hard those times were on his family. And they were probably hard. But reading between the lines, to me, it seems like they did okay in the middle class.
Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
It all centered around an Italian intelligence firm called Equalize, which was officially associated with the Italian government. And thereby it had legitimate access to at least some of the Italian government's databases. Turned out, they've been doing a little side work outside the scope of their mission. Here in some of the reporting about this whole scandal, the words...
Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
Quote, can hold institutions in hand got used. And this is originally an Italian publication translated into English. And that is a poor Italian translation for they are blackmailing politicians and other government officials. The suspects had often promised and boasted that they could intervene in investigations and processes. giving shades of Diddy and Epstein.
Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
It turns out that the hacking tools that they were using was a software called Graphite, and it was developed by an Israeli firm named Paragon. Reporters couldn't help but notice that journalists who had been critical of Israel and the government's handling of alleged antisemitism were being targeted.
Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
Italian law enforcement had wiretapped the offices of these hackers and recorded meetings between Israeli intelligence operatives meeting with the hackers and tasking them with jobs in exchange for cash. One such conversation involved discussions of a job that was allegedly for the Vatican and allegedly included $1 million of payment.
Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
Paragons graphite technology that they were using is a zero-click hacking tool, much like its predecessor Pegasus. Das bedeutet, dass es auf ein Geräte-Device kann, völlig ohne ihre Wissen. Du musst nicht auf irgendwelche schmutzigen Links oder Pop-Ups klicken. Es gibt keine Notifikation oder Betrachtung und die Hacker können Zugang zu fast allem und alles in deinem Handy oder Laptop erhalten.
Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
Am wichtigsten ist, dass es die Möglichkeit hat, encrypted Messing-Apps wie Telegram, Signal und WhatsApp zu hacken. This pissed off Meta and Mark Zuckerberg, and they actually threatened to file a lawsuit against the firm, which drew even more media attention to the scandal in the early months of this year. But I want to zoom out and look at a pattern here.
Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
This is standard operating procedure for Israel, and they've been doing it for some time. Since at least the early 2010s, this has been their official policy. Yes, they are both named Ehud. So, Unit 8200 is Israel's NSA, the division of their intelligence services that focuses on hacking, cyber security and signals intelligence. And they are well known to be one of the best in the world.
Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
8200 is the largest single military unit in the IDF and its alumni are all over the tech world, both in Israel and America, as well as all around the world. All the way back in 2014, Israel's export of cybersecurity products was over $6 billion, exceeding Israeli exports of other military hardware for the first time.
Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
In college, he wound up attending the first congress of the U.S. National Student Association, the NSA. Über die Jahre wurde er immer mehr in der NSA beteiligt, bis er 1951 der 5. Präsident der NSA wurde. Nun, wenn ihr noch nicht von der Nationalen Studenten-Assoziation gehört habt, war es ein berühmter CIA-Kutout, also die CIA fundierte es. Und sie haben es durch die 50er und 60er Jahre gemacht.
Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
All the way back when this article was written, tiny little Israel captured about 10% of the entire global cybersecurity market. Und Israel ist am Zentrum der globalen Cyber-Arms-Rasse.
Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
Nicht nur, weil die Israelis auf Menschen spionieren möchten, sondern weil sie eine kaptive Bevölkerung haben, ohne Regierung oder legalen Ressourcen, auf die jeder testen möchte, ihre neuen Überwachungs-Technologien. Die Financial Times referiert eine offene Letter, die 2014 in israelischen Berichten und Broadcasts auf Channel 10 veröffentlicht wurde.
Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
In it, a group of 43 serving and former 8200 reservists revealed what they said were coercive spying tactics being used on innocent Palestinians, including the collection of embarrassing sexual, financial and other information. They're blackmailing the Palestinians, guys. You really can't make this up.
Candace
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Israel controls all imports and exports by land and sea, frequently cutting off electricity, water, food and other supplies to the country. They've been known to intentionally let in less calories than the population would need to survive at basic nutritional standards.
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They have a two-tiered justice system, where Palestinians can be taken from their homes in the middle of the night and locked in prison without a hearing for months or even years at a time. They've been doing this since long before October 7th. Gaza is very much a Holocaust since October 7th. But the West Bank, in many ways, was just as interesting to the global surveillance industry.
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Because although the human rights abuses, brutality and murders aren't always as brazen there, the technocratic nightmare very much is. The West Bank has thousands of cameras installed all over its shattered territories, many of which are supplied by the Chinese company that is blacklisted in the US for helping the Chinese government commit genocide against the Uyghur Muslim population.
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In the West Bank, these cameras are on every street corner, Israeli vehicle, checkpoint and scattered all throughout public and sometimes even private spaces. Their explicit goal is facial recognition and digital surveillance. The facial recognition industry is booming, more than doubling since 2020.
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And a lot of these technologies are being pioneered and tested on Palestinians in the West Bank, where the Israeli government basically has carte blanche to do as it will. They have a program called Blue Wolf, because you gotta sound cool while you do apartheid.
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Blue Wolf is a database of the entire Palestinian population, their photos, their data, and comprehensive tracking of all of their public movements. They allegedly don't have drones with facial recognition yet. Allegedly. But give it a couple months and you will have flying robots constantly surveilling the Palestinian people's every move.
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There are obvious concerns about AI's ability to accurately perform facial recognition on dark-skinned people. And there are numerous examples from around the world of AI directing authorities to go after the wrong person because of this. Just try to search for gorillas in your iPhone's camera roll and see what happens. This concern is frequently brought up in American policing.
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But to me, that is entirely the wrong conversation to be having, because it implies that we consent to this surveillance technology in the first place. Jonathan Hempel sagte, This stuff is coming to America, folks. In fact, it's already here and it's definitely already in Israel. But it's not just being used on Palestinian protesters. It's being used on Israeli citizens as well.
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Protests calling for Bibi Netanyahu to step down have been raging since long before October 7th and they have picked back up in a big way in the last year. It's important to remember that not all Israelis are down with what's happening. Many just want to see the hostages return home. Many want to see the war ended. Others think that Netanyahu isn't being harsh enough in Gaza.
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Sein Zweck war es, zu infiltrieren, zu spionieren und die steigenden Studenten-Movements der Anti-Kriegs-Ära zu beeinflussen. At the time, the US government was deeply concerned about Soviet and Communist influence infiltrating America through our youth and universities. And though this fear wasn't entirely without merit, it yielded little to no results that were tangible.
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But regardless of the reason, if you're in the streets of Israel protesting, Bibi allegedly wanted to deploy these same facial recognition surveillance technologies on you. Recently, the head of Shin Bet, which is Israel's domestic intelligence service, announced that he will be stepping down.
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And he said that the reason was because Netanyahu allegedly asked him to spy on the anti-government protesters. In his affidavit, he said that it was clear that if there were to be a constitutional crisis, Netanyahu would expect him to obey the Prime Minister and not the courts. because Netanyahu has held power in Israel almost uninterrupted since 2009.
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Everyone always claims that Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East, but the deep state is very much alive and well over there as well, as much or more as anywhere else in the world. And just like here in America, that deep state is very much okay with harming Israelis and lying to the world to hold on to power. One need look no further than how October 7th went down to see this.
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It was reported, after the fact, in Israeli media, that the government enacted the Hannibal Protocol during the October 7th attack. All those cars did not crumple like that from the light weaponry carried by Hamas fighters.
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Soldaten wurden gesagt, dass nicht ein einziger Fahrzeug nach Gaza aus Israel zurückkehren könnte, um Angst zu haben, dass es die verabschiedeten Individuen transportieren würde. Was mit dem einfachsten Übergang der Logik bedeutet, dass sie beurteilt wurden, um irgendeine israelische Flüchtlinge in diesen Fahrzeugen zu töten, bevor sie über die Grenze kommen und Flüchtlinge werden.
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Das ist nicht zu erwähnen, dass Israel wusste, dass der Angriff lange vorhanden war. Dieser Artikel von den Zeiten von Israel sagt, dass die Top-Kommandanten der israelischen Verteidigungsgruppe wussten, in den Tagen, Tagen und Monaten, die vor dem zerstörten Oktober 7. Onslaught in Süd-Israel, dass die palästinensische Terrorgruppe intensiv für eine geplante, large-scale Invasion gearbeitet hat.
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Und der Hamas-Führer hat sogar öffentlich gesagt, dass das sein Plan war. But the military still didn't act and even diverted forces away from the Gaza front.
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And yes, despite these reports of Hamas' preparations for attack, two companies of troops from the IDF's commando brigade that have been stationed on the border of Gaza were inexplicably moved to the West Bank just two days before the attack. When the people of Israel and the world started asking too many questions, the investigations into what had happened on October 7th were shut down.
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Because it would have been bad for the Israeli military support and public image, I presume. And all of that is not to mention Netanyahu's propping up of Hamas in the first place. There's always a double-edged explanation for these deep state plots. Why we need to fund this terror group today. And how we could have never seen terrorism coming tomorrow.
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And don't mistake my reporting and stance on the government of Israel as support for Hamas or enthusiasm for Sharia law or the Muslim world either. It's all a mess. For example. Did you know that across the Arab Middle East today, an average of 45% of married couples are related, usually first cousins?
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In southern Saudi Arabia, that number is as high as 55-70% of marriages are between blood relatives. There have been numerous studies on this done. This NIH meta-analysis put Iraq near the top of the list with an average, an average of 64.6% inbred marriages in al-Ramadi. I'm not on anyone's side over there.
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At least, not towards its stated goal of rooting out Communist and Soviet infiltration. They did a great job of enacting secret programs to unlawfully spy on Americans with programs like Operation Mockingbird, Chaos, COINTELPRO, Minaret, Shamrock, just to name a few. This included everything from reading people's mail and co-opting the press all the way to trying to convince Martin Luther King Jr.
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I just want to stop seeing women and children killed by the hundreds and thousands in senseless wars for oligarchs and deep state agendas. And most of all, I want to stop sending our tax dollars to fund it. According to USAID, we have sent almost 320 billion dollars to Israel since it was founded.
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Right now, since October 7th, our support of Israel's indiscriminate bombing campaigns has surged to new levels with billions more being sent seemingly every few months. All this while America crumbles from within. But The Deep State always does more than one thing at a time. And this genocide serves as more than just a money laundering scheme for the globalist Zionist elite.
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It also is fundamental to their plans for how you will own nothing and be happy very soon. And we're about to talk all about these technocrats and what they've got planned for you. But first, I want to tell you about our sponsor. Ich möchte dir über BEAM erzählen. Spendest du deine Nachts, tauschen und drehen, schmerzhaft schlafen und dann dich am nächsten Tag auf Füßen drücken?
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The technocratic hellscape that they have planned for you is perhaps best personified by Peter Thiel and Palantir. Peter is part of the aptly named PayPal Mafia, along with his Palantir co-founder Joe Lonsdale, and Elon Musk is perhaps the best known of the bunch today, but Peter Thiel is no less powerful and perhaps far more dangerous as he slithers around behind the scenes in Washington.
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We'll have to do another day about how integral he has become to the rise and career of the habitual name changer J.D. Vance. But today I want to focus on how these surveillance technologies are already here in America and how you are already being watched, cataloged and prepared for this Orwellian future that they have planned.
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Right now, Palantir is working with ICE to use its biometric and facial recognition capabilities to track and deport illegal immigrants. And that's great. That's always how they start. First, target the group that most of us already want gone. Who except the far left crazies would object to that? Trust us. It's only ever going to be used on terrorists and criminals.
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Just ignore the fact that all the illegal immigrants are mixed in with the rest of us. So in practice, they're already surveilling all of us to the same degree. Besides, we've already seen the Zionists in the media calling Candace and Tucker and myself and many others foreign assets of Qatar or whoever else.
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to commit suicide. Crazy story. If you haven't heard it, look up the letter they sent to him trying to convince him to off himself. It is publicly available and it's even on the Wikipedia page for COINTELPRO. Technisch war es ein FBI-Programm, aber wir werden enttäuscht. Also zurück zu Denser.
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How long is it before anyone who speaks out against the government of Israel, let alone our own government, is labeled a terrorist and put on a list? That's the day that freedom dies. Und in case you were wondering how the people in charge of Palantir feel about the weaponization of their technology, here's Alex Karp, the CEO of Palantir, proud Jewish Zionist, answering that question for you.
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I quote, AI is not a toy. It is a weapon, said CEO Alex Karp. It will be used to kill people. Und wenn Sie sich über Peter Thiel interessieren, hier ist er in der Cambridge Debating Chamber im Mai 2024, um Ihnen ein bisschen von seiner Perspektive auf die Sache zu geben.
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I mean, it seems to sum up a lot of Zionist perspectives, is that they're just broadly on the right. I just defer to defer to. You should probably practice that script, Peter, because your company is helping them kill civilians. I mean, terrorists. So just work on that bit a little bit, because in Gaza. It's already being used by the military to target and kill aid workers.
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In just a few months of this conflict, Israel had targeted and killed more aid workers than had been killed in all wars in the rest of the world over the last 30 years combined, according to The Nation. All the way back in 2013, Edward Snowden revealed how the NSA was helping the Israeli government target and surveil Palestinian Americans who were communicating with relatives back home.
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I'm sure that Israel totally left their families alone and never used this surveillance for retaliation or blackmail or anything else. This is the modern manifestation of the Deep State. The intelligence agencies of today were founded by corporate lawyers. And they partnered with their corporate buddies to overthrow governments all around the world and enslave huge parts of the third world.
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Nach dem Reisen in die Welt für die NSA und wahrscheinlich als ein unwinniger CIA-Einsatz für mehrere Jahre, kamen sie endlich zu ihm und sagten ihm, dass sie die gesamte Organisation allmählich finanziert haben und dass sie so weiter tun würden.
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Then, when they needed a little extra muscle for the dirty work, they turned to organized crime all the way back in World War II and they've been working together ever since. All these alliances are specifically designed to create plausible deniability, just as we saw with Epstein. His network was comprised almost entirely of private citizens, just doing their own thing.
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No matter that multiple were intimately tied to the deepest parts of Israeli military intelligence, no matter that he was bankrolled by one of the most prominent Jewish philanthropists in the world, No matter that all of his operations seem to target Western nations and benefit Israel.
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No one ever even seems to mention the fact that Epstein's operation directly overlapped with the timing of September 11th. And an awful lot of unanswered questions that were covered up by people in our own government acting on behalf of some other agenda. This is the modern deep state.
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And it is a monster that has grown out of the aftermath of World War II into the corruption of just about every facet of Western life today. Everyone has their own theories about who's behind it. Some say it's the Jews. Others say it's the Illuminati or the Masons or the Jesuits. And I don't know who's in charge. I don't even really care that much.
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But I do know that they're everywhere and they're in every government, blackmailing everybody to do their bidding. And global technocracy, where we are all slaves to their digital money and debt systems, is their goal. Our best weapon against this tyranny is the truth. An open and honest truth. That's why freedom of speech is non-negotiable. That's why shows like Candice's are so important.
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And that's why freethinkers like you are so important. And that's why just asking questions is so important. Anyways, that's our show for today. Thanks for tuning in. Please, before you go, like the video, subscribe to Candice's channel, and it's a big help to me if you click on the link in the description to go subscribe to my YouTube channel as well at Ian Carroll's show.
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This was all groovy with Denser, who later enrolled in the military and was immediately swooped up by the CIA, where he served for a total of five years before leaving. And obviously, once he left the CIA, he was done working for them. Totally never worked for them again. Because then... He became the special assistant to the first head of USAID.
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We'll be back next week with a story about how they're turning all of us into indentured servants to the elite, more updates from Tiffany's story, and much, much more. Do something nice for someone today, drink some water, and have a great week.
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Yes, the one that recently got caught with its pants down sending condoms and dildos to Uganda or whatever it was. Now, the whole USAID Doge scandal was pretty fishy and felt a lot like a publicity stunt. But one thing that is pretty well indisputable is that USAID has long been an intelligence agency cutout designed to launder government money around the world and fund secret programs abroad.
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Denser wurde dann der speziale Assistent für den US-Koordinator für die Alliance for Progress, was eine andere USAID-Style Organisation war, die Kennedy vor seinem Tod gegründet hatte. Das ist ein Clip aus dem kongressiven Rekord 1965, der jetzt in der CIA-Reading-Room online ist. Und es sagt, Quote, So...
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Untertitelung des ZDF für funk, 2017 Wir werden auch über eine neue israelische Blackmail-Operation sprechen, die den Vatikan, Peter Thiel, Palantir und unsere technokratische Zukunft betrifft, wo Big Brother immer watching ist. Willkommen zurück zu Candice. All right. Our first story today is both mind-blowing and instructive.
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Reading between the lines, this sounds a bit like our boy Jack Kennedy in covert war with an out of control CIA, starting his own intelligence style operations to reshape Latin America in his own image. Now I bet that there are some in the audience that know more about the Alliance for Progress than I do, that can drop some knowledge for us in the comments, and please do. But anyways...
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After the assassination of Kennedy and shifts in Densers worldview and priorities, he came home and moved into the banking sector, intent on changing things here in America. And he had some noteworthy and powerful friends like Eugene Black and Governor Nelson Rockefeller, who appointed Denser in 1970 to succeed him as the New York State Superintendent of Banks.
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In this role, he became New York's chief regulator of banking and financial markets. That's a position that the banks and financial institutions have always cultivated a cozy relationship with, for obvious reasons, even though technically he is the cop that's supposed to be keeping them in line. And during this time, the financial system was in turmoil.
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This is a quote from an article about that time in history in the financial system. In the days before computerized trading and a centralized electronic stock delivery system, the street depended on messengers tasked with trudging up and down Wall Street to deliver paper stock certificates by hand. By 1968, daily trading volume hit 12 million shares a day.
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The sheer mass of stock certificates and other paperwork overwhelmed many Wall Street back offices, the groups working behind the scenes to settle and clear trades. Das ist ein Bild eines Jungs, der literally Stockslippen auf dem Flur des Stockes auf dem Flur des Stockes auf dem Flur des Stockes auf dem Flur des Stockes
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And those fails to deliver that it mentions in that article, those became a feature of the market, not a bug, because it is extremely convenient to the financial institutions that run the markets to be able to say, whoopsies, we failed to deliver that stock that you bought. But don't worry, we'll be sure to get it to you someday.
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This would be a key principle leading up to and enduring ever since the 2021 GameStop squeeze. But anyways, the market was growing rapidly and the volume of trading was getting so out of control that they established a committee called BASIC to study the problem and issue a solution.
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The solution that they came up with was to enter all the stocks into a computerized system and rather than trading the real stocks, you would leave all the real stocks in one place and just trade around digital notes that said you owned them.
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Für jede Art und Weise, die sie in diese Veränderung geschrieben haben, dass du sie nicht wirklich besitzen würdest, hättest du nur das, was man als benötigte Besitzung nennt. Sie würden tatsächlich von dieser einen zentralen Kooperation besitzt, die sie für dich alle sicher halten würde. Und du würdest nur dein kleines, lustiges Geld umdrehen.
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Ein bisschen wie Fiat-Money, wenn du runtergegangen bist, ist das Geld nicht wirklich ein Rappertuch. So, William Denser was intimately involved in the founding of this new corporation, and then he became its first chairman and CEO. And thus was born the Depository Trust Company, the DTC.
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They made sure to put the word trust in there, just in case you were confused and thought you couldn't trust all these banksters to be on the straight and narrow. Not foreshadowing at all. It would be regulated by the SEC and the Federal Reserve because they had the bright idea to make it a private corporation instead of a government agency. Can't imagine why.
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Denser wound up serving as chairman and CEO for 22 years. By the time he retired in 1994, the DTC held $7.7 trillion worth of securities, i.e. the shares of stock and the like. But today, on their website, the DTC says that they have custody of more than 1.4 million active securities issues, valued at a total of 87.1 trillion dollars. And they just say it, right there, out in the open.
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In their most recent annual report, they published some insane numbers. In 2024, they processed 3.8 quadrillion dollars worth of securities. On average, every day last year, they processed 2.2 trillion dollars worth of trades every single day. These are numbers that the human mind really cannot even process. So, Um uns zu helfen, möchte ich einen meiner allerersten Lieblingsvisuals nennen.
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Shoutout zu demonocracy.info. Ich weiß nicht über den Namen, aber dieser wurde vor Jahren veröffentlicht und er lebt in meinem Kopf zu diesem Tag. Denn es ist schwer, diese großen Zahlen zu verstehen und es wirklich hilft, sie so zu visualisieren. Also, zu Beginn. We all know what a $100 bill theoretically looks like, right? If you stack a little stacky stack of them, you get $10,000.
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Very small stack. You make a whole pallet of them and you have $100 million. Solid $100 bills. Wall to wall, bottom to top. Put 10 of those pallets together and you've got a billion dollars, okay? So we're counting it up. If you want to visualize a trillion dollars, Der Semi-Truck da unten ist nur für die Größe.
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Man sieht die Person neben der Palette, neben der Säule der Paletten, neben dem Semi-Truck. Und dann, wenn man auszoomt und die ganze Tower auf der linken Seite schaut, von der very bottom to the very top, That whole skyscraper is filled wall to wall, end to end, bottom to top with solid $100 bills. That is how much money $1 trillion is. Okay?
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That tower is 465 feet tall, approximately 43 stories high, about 40 feet to a side. That's a lot of money. So, to contextualize this number that the DTC is putting out, Every day, the DTC trades two skyscrapers of solid $100 bills. Every single day. Just want to work your way up so you can visualize how big this is going to get. Because these are double stacked towers.
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Twice as tall as the ones you saw in the last graphic. Notice the palette and the person in each image. The person is pretty much too small to see. Okay? These are quadruple stacks. Notice the tiny Statue of Liberty way at the end of the line. You may barely be able to see the tiny speck that is the pallet with 100 million dollars on it.
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All of these towers are solid, wall to wall, bottom to top, all 100 dollar bills. This is what one quadrillion dollars looks like. So, Last year, the DTC processed 3.8 quadrillion dollars of trades. Like when your ass cousin bought weed stocks. That's the kind of trades we're talking about.
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But that means that you multiply this entire graphic by 3.8 times and that is how much money is changing hands at the DTC. And it's all being processed and overseen by this one company that no one has heard about that was founded by a CIA agent. In that annual report, they also mention that they're sitting on $72 trillion of mortgage-backed securities.
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It gives us a window into how the CIA recruits people, covertly funds entire arms of our government, and shapes the world from behind the curtain. We'll meet one of the founders of USAID and spend time in the early NSA, but not that NSA, a different intelligence agency linked NSA.
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You know, the things that caused the global financial collapse in 2008, when everyone got too carried away, milking the free money spigot for all it was worth, and then making off with massive taxpayer bailouts to pay their bonuses? So it's safe to say that this corporation that you've never heard of is insanely important and insanely powerful.
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And it was founded by a CIA spook in collaboration with all the biggest financial institutions in America. To this day, it is still run by the same crowd. When you look at the board of directors, just about every major financial institution is represented. And let me explain what you're looking at here. These are from my personal notes.
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And what I do is I just go and look up the board of directors and I read through their biographies on the official website. And they mention, because they're trying to brag about it, all their past work history.
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And so then I go out and I just get little graphics of where they've worked, just so we can visualize the types of relationships that these board members have, current and past, on their resumes, right?
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And when you look through their board of directors, you see all the biggest financial institutions and most of the regulators, like the FDIC and FINRA, but also the SEC, Apex Fintech Solutions, Davis Polk. The list goes on and on with names like JP Morgan, Citadel Securities, Goldman Sachs, Citi, TD, we talked about BCG last week. And you could really just rabbit hole down this stuff
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for days and days and days. And I did. Virtue is a big name. HSBC, big name. BNY Mellon. We've even got the oil companies on here. But there's a couple of things that I want to note. SIFMA, S-I-F-M-A, is a lobbying organization that lobbies on behalf of all of these guys. The OCC, the CFTC, those are both regulatory agencies. Okay?
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I just show you all this to make the point that it's a big club and you're not in it. But they're all good buddies with the regulators that are supposed to be making sure there's no funny business going on with our stock markets.
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Of course, when you go look up the board of directors at a place like FINRA, the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority, their board has veterans of Vanguard and Morgan Stanley on it. But then again, they are what is referred to as a self-regulatory agency.
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And when you start looking into how our financial system actually works, it's completely bonkers how much of it is made up of self-regulatory organizations. Meaning, I'm sure that these bankers and financiers will police themselves and make sure no one breaks any laws. Because after all, why would a banker ever even break a law?
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Just look at Gary Gensler, the chair of the SEC for the last four years. He worked at Goldman Sachs for 18 years. Every door on Wall Street is a revolving door. And they don't hide it. They brag about how much financial experience all of these stooges have.
Candace
New Hacking Blackmail Scandal & CIA Market Control | Candace Ep 192
Another great example of a crazy conflict is from 2021 when the GameStock folks noticed that the global head of operations of Citadel Securities is on the board of the DTC, the company that's supposed to be overseeing all the stocks in the market.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
There's an open piece of evidence of some kids that showed up covered in mud at a car shop that they worked at. It was like a dry day. They showed up covered in mud. There's a certain guy that theorized that they were hiding in a manhole and shot up at him out of the manhole and that the car slows down in real life and that witnesses saw the car slow down.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And that there's dropped frames from this Epruder film. And it's like, these are these kinds of theories where it's like, it's like, how do you dig into that and like prove that? And the answer is you have to get to primary sources. You have to get to like, is there a police report for that kid showing up? Like, is there, is that location real? Like, can you corroborate any of this?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And the unfortunate truth is you could, if you could fucking see the files that our government was hiding from us. Right.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
That's a big part of what I do. How likely is it that this is a coincidence? Is it even possible? Right.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Well, I'm not, I'm, I'm as deep as the ricochet underneath the overpass.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yeah. Like I'm deep enough to know the basics, but there's so many layers and you have to read the books. You have to watch the films. You have to like, you gotta talk to interviews. Exactly.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And that's why I was curious to hear your takes, because you've actually talked to these people.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And he's not just been studying it forever, he's been studying the actual primary source documents themselves, and reading the real archives that are released.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Dude. So I didn't know about Jolly until I read Chaos. And then I started digging it because I knew about MKUltra. I've been learning about MKUltra when I was a kid doing psychedelics. But I didn't really understand anything about that history or anything around the CIA back then.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
No, I'm a generalist, and I rely on people like that because I could never stay with something for that long.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
He could have written a book about each of those sketchy dudes that he had questions about. Each of those CIA guys, each of those weird doctors.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I suspect they're, I mean, to me, the big question is that seems like the first, like, like for sure that's going on, right? Yeah. Is to co-opt the hippie. I mean, first the hippie movement probably was to co-opt the anti-war movement. That was pretty buttoned up. Like, I suspect that LSD did not just escape the lab. I suspect they were like, quick, turn all these kids into crazy hippies.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
It's a good example of how the mainstream narrative had Nixon as a crook. And he's just one of many examples, right? And when you really start to look into it, you realize, I mean, probably not the greatest guy, but what was the real story there? What were they framing? Why were they trying to get him out?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Like, try this out, try this out, try this out. Really? Yeah, so check this out. Have you read Strange Scenes Inside Laurel Canyon?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
So, I mean, even just the first chapter, right? There was a very powerful organized anti-war movement led by a bunch of Quakers, a bunch of black activists, a bunch of like my dad was one of them. And it was not this hippie fringe thing. It was a very powerful anti-Vietnam protest. And the moment that LSD gets introduced, it becomes all peace and love.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And he points out in that book how all of these people like Frank Zappa, like lead members of the doors, people organize the Monterey Pop Festival over and over and over. Like he probably has two to three dozen examples specifically goes deep into that. They all just happen to move from wherever they are all over the world. into this area in LA that is not a hotbed for music.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And they all just start making music about peace and love and doing LSD. And all of them have parents that are from special forces, intelligence operations, Pentagon. Some of the musicians themselves have backgrounds that look exactly like CIA operatives that were doing revolutions in Cuba and overseas.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Like the lead singer of The Doors, Jim Morrison, for example. Frank Zappa. So Frank Zappa is one where his dad and his mom were both. Frank Zappa's dad worked at the base that is that was like the chemical weapons, like where they did their chemical weapons research.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
His dad was a chemical weapons specialist in like top secret clearances, which is basically like when you read about what his dad was, it sounds a lot like what MK Ultra would be. It sounds a lot like what.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
you would like drug they're drug experiments and chemical weapons is drug experience chemical is the wrong word um psychological operations um but it's right there like it's on his wikipedia page it's not hard to find these things what what that guy did that i forget who wrote the book but what he did was not like find uncover evidence that had never been uncovered he just looked at all these different people whose histories were very public but
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
But he put it all together and realized like that's a lot of people that all moved to this one place and all started producing music that was like all within this one thing. Like Jim Morrison, his dad was the lead commander of the boat that was in the Gulf of Tonkin that started the Vietnam War. That's like kind of a weird coincidence. Yeah. And you could definitely make the explanation that...
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Kids often rebel against their parents, right? Kids often step out of line and are like, fuck the old way. But a lot of them were ex-military, like directly ex-suits and ex-CIA.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
No, that was just me giving examples. The guy specifically that he said that had the history that was, that looked, he was doing what looked like color revolutions in Cuba. Because I'm not super familiar with the music of that time, I might forget what band he was in. It might have been the Mamas and the Papas. There was a couple of guys in the Mamas and Papas that he did deep dives in.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Well, a lot of them didn't write their own songs. Yeah. And, I mean, like, you can't fake town.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Jim Morrison was fucking good. Oh, no, Jim... Yeah, some of them were great. Jim Morrison was fucking good. Some of them were great.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
It also makes fertile ground for COINTELPRO. When you have things like drugs and drug culture, like fertile ground for COINTELPRO.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And then he did like hypnotism and like weird speeches.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
It really does look like... And the thing is that I respect Tom O'Neill so much because he didn't try to claim things he couldn't prove. Right. But he just put it all out there and is like, this is what I'm seeing and think what you think.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And it looks to me like you're saying that Manson was either directly trained to practice these things and carry them out or he was sort of like a patsy in the operation that they kind of like... Gave him the setting within which to just go along his megalomaniacal impulses and just kind of kept tabs on him and kept him safe and just kept him going.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I think he wasn't a part of it because of how effective he was.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
It's crazy how many people that wind up in these weird positions came out of like, you were in prison, then you got released, or you were in trouble, and then you got... And the girls, like, the girls, it's crazy. Those girls, like, some of them had committed some minor crimes, but a lot of them were just regular people. And then suddenly they become, like, absolute, like, murderers.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yeah. I mean, the dark thing that, I mean, we don't need to go into it because it's real dark, but I think that when you study the MKUltra files, and this is where there's a lot of conspiracy theories that are hard to prove. There's a bunch of witness victim testimony, but it's hard to prove, is the Monarch programs are an alleged program that never got disclosed.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And that's all the programs that are hidden behind child sexual abuse being a part of mind control. Because a lot of the drugs, like... They can break people's minds and they can be involved in mind control. But a lot of those papers talk about dissociative identity disorder as like the holy grail of that Manchurian candidate concept.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And it makes a lot of sense if you know how dissociative identity disorder works. And that is most commonly associated with dark, grim childhood sexual abuse.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And then you get all these victim testimonies, hundreds and hundreds of people these days talking about how they were a part of these programs, like people that were on Epstein's Island that claimed to have been victimized as children and subjected to mind control experiments paired with childhood sexual abuse.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yeah, I mean. You get people to do things. Break Jack Ruby's mind in an instant. In jail, yeah. And the craziest thing is that we've been living in a world where for all of our history until the internet, and really until recent internet history, they could do those things and just not have anyone report on it. Exactly. And so no one would ever even know.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I mean, how often is it that they're allowing someone that they aren't sure about to get to president, and they're sticking them with a VP that is their guy, right?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And I think that there's this feeling that the world is so dark right now because we're learning everything. And I actually take the opposite view. I think that the light is being shown and the world is super dark. There's all kinds of crazy, horrible people, but there's all kinds of crazy good people, everything in between. And you have to shine the light on it all before you can fix it.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Oh, no. No, no, no, no, no. I mean, I'm at the point where I'm starting to get, like, I'm not literally that paranoid, but I've had some conversations in terms of, like, people that want to leak a story, which I normally just avoid because I don't want to touch it.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
But every now and then I'm like, let's go on a walk because I don't want to hear what you have to say around any of this shit because I know it's being recorded. I know it can be listened to.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
No, it's just an iPhone. Yeah. I'm aspiring to get one of those like one of the Eric Prince phones or something like that.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
But the way I look at it is so I intentionally do all of my stuff. I basically do open source investigations. I don't try to like break news stories. Right. Because it's way safer and it's way more interesting. And I don't – my goal is not to like – to like know everything or to be some great journalist.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
My goal is to inspire everybody else, like to inspire the world to think a little more and to be more critical and to look it up for yourself.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
One finger gets taken away. TikTok will delete one finger if I'm pointing with one finger. Why? Because it's a green screen app. And so I'm using the camera. And in my camera, it's putting the thing behind me. But it's cutting out me. And if I only use one finger, it cuts my whole hand away. So I started doing this.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Just because the green screen, when it's trying to AI analyze what is a body and what is the background, it'll take away my hand as though it's the background. Oh, how weird.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I mean, to be fair, I've had a level of success that is unprecedented. And people call me a controlled opposition because of it. And it's like, whatever, dude. If I was in all of their seats, I would probably be like, where did this dude come from? But at a certain point, it's like an intense level of suspicion.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yeah. And for me, for me, it's really interesting because and you know this, too. You've been in this game for forever is when you actually get to meet people in real life. You learn things about them. You get that vibe of them. It's not it's not impenetrable. You can be fooled. But like how much can you fool and can you fool all your employees all the time? Like Alex Jones is a great example.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
People call him controlled opposite. Like he's bought by the Jews. He's bought by the commies. He's bought by the, and it's like, cool. But I know all of his staff and I've hung out with them. And like, you've known him over years and years. Like, is he faking his entire life? Like I've been on his show. I've seen what he was doing.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yeah. I mean Trump is a weird guy to like who knows what's going on with Trump right now.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yeah. Yeah, I learned the other day that he started InfoWars, like he officially founded InfoWars, like when I was two years old or something like that. It blew my brain. So it was like, what?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yeah, he's the most fun I love Trump conspiracy theories because people get so riled up and it's so partisan and political but within it there's all this like juicy like meat for for thinking about it's like not even conspiracy theories it's just like his history and
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Almost sounds like a few events of the last couple years, you know?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Funny how that—I mean, that's a—I'm really interested in, like, looking for, like, right now with all these new people coming in, Cash and Pam and all the picks, RFK, I'm really enjoying the process of just trying to watch their actions and trying to figure out who's doing what and how much are they going to play to the money and play to the people.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And it's just such a fascinating exercise in journalism of where do you kind of—and how much leeway do you give them? How much grace do you give them?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Especially with the Epstein blackmail hanging as a cloud over the entire federal government. I don't think that any of those three are blackmailed, but I don't feel confident that I know that they're not. Let's look at it.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
No, blackmail is just, I know something that you don't want out and any level of threatening that it'll get out or, you know.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Oh, a hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. Reverse. Yeah. That's the opposite. So that's bribery, I guess. Yeah. Kind of, it's just, yeah, that's deal making. But I think that a lot of Epstein's targets were willing. I think that a lot of them, because I think that we're talking, it's not just Jeffrey Epstein, it's organized crime as a network. Like he's just an employee of organized crime.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And especially with the Epstein stuff now and his history with Epstein, it just gets me so interested in, you'll never know the real story.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And I think that a lot of those people are basically saying, yeah, I want into the club. Because if you are like a Reid Hoffman, or allegedly, if you're one of those guys and you want more contracts or you want more deals, like allegedly, and let's be clear, just because I say something on Joe's podcast does not mean that Joe fucking agrees with me, CNN. Thank you.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Because, like, I'm a crazy fucker. And I got all kinds of theories about Epstein. But, like, I think that a lot of them were willing. Because I think a lot of them are... I mean, if you're sick enough to rape a child, like, on Jeffrey Epstein's island, you're sick enough to want into that club.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
You never heard about Bill Gates? I didn't know he was into kids. Oh, dude. I mean, he's one of Epstein's closest confidants. Here's the thing about the Epstein thing.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Child trafficking rings get exposed and brought down around the world relatively frequently, like at least once a year. But they usually don't make big news because they're usually not like Epstein.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
The elite experience. And what you're talking about is it's such an important concept is that some people, like if you wanted to pay for an underage prostitute, you can pay for that. There are women that would be prostitutes underage. The people that we're talking about in the Epstein files that were – that wanted underage girls specifically because they weren't all underage.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Some of them wanted overage girls. Some of them were just scientists. They weren't all compromised. But the ones that wanted underage girls, they specifically want what they couldn't have. Because if you wanted sex that you're allowed to have, you just wanted a young girl, you could just go pay for that.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
What Epstein was doing is he was recruiting girls that were from like American families and kind of tricking them and coercing them. Like they wanted a girl that they wanted the experience of coercing. Some of these people, not all of them, want the experience of I'm I am doing this to a girl that I am coercing.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I'm I am manipulating or I'm just straight up being physically violent to to get this thing. Because if you wanted a willing 16 year old, those do exist.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
He did way more than that. He signed his entire power of attorney to him. You're so cool. I'm going to give you a house. No, he gave him the keys to the entire castle of all of Victoria's Secret and Abercrombie & Fitch and all of L. Brands.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
If you want that, we can help you. Yeah. Yeah, things happen out in... Like, it's kind of crazy. Do you remember Andrew Breitbart got killed? I do remember that. And he got... He was exposing... A heart attack.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
He was exposing Acorn because... So how... Oh, man, I'm totally blanking on our boy these days that does all the... O'Keefe?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
You know that James O'Keefe got his start with Breitbart on that story exposing Acorn. And what they did is they sent James O'Keefe and this other female reporter into Acorn. And O'Keefe pretended to be a pimp. Well, they asked them for help setting up a underage sex trafficking ring. And the people at Acorn... I didn't know it was underage. Yeah, yeah.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
No. Dude, I'm going to read it. I just got it. I should buy it.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
They wanted help setting up an underage sex trafficking ring using children from Guatemala or from Central America, I think.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
say that in the meeting they yeah yeah it's on that's what was on tape what yeah it's a great it blew my mind when I read I was like what are we talking about right now because I didn't know that history because I hadn't I wasn't paying attention back then and that's that is the story is that he went in and asked for help setting up a under I don't think he was like I don't think he was probably using the words like five-year-olds ten-year-olds I assume that he was like implying like 16 year olds but I don't know but that's how did he phrase it
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I got it in a three-part series that has the Baron Trump one and then the last president and there's one other one.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I don't know. I mean, I can't find those videos anymore. I've looked.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I'm sure they're somewhere, and I'm sure that James O'Keefe could tell the story.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I don't know. I have no idea. And it's a whole drama fest, and I try to stay. I mean, I usually try to stay out of the drama in the modern industry because it's like it'll just waste your time.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
But yeah, he went in and asked for help setting up this ring, and they allegedly said, yeah, here's how you do it. We'll help you, we'll help you, we'll help you. And that's what the case they brought against Acorn was. Right. Before Andrew Breitbart mysteriously died, and then the coroner that did his autopsy mysteriously died.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
It's like, that was such a weird one to stumble upon, because I didn't know I was about to stumble upon it. Ugh.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yeah, and people can look I mean everyone should look up anything that I say always people should always just look it up and just Start typing things in that I'm saying and see if what if you can figure out what you think because I am not an expert I'm just a dude that like is looking things up and I try to be really thorough But like wasn't Breitbart was it Breitbart or drudge that was the first victim of these coordinated anti-advertising campaigns
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
It might have been... It is interesting how you can watch out over history. The more history you learn, the more you get to see where certain strategies, kind of like deep state strategies, so to speak, or intelligence agency strategies get invented, and then they start using them.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
It's so crazy to have all of these tactics exposed in plain view now, and they still keep trying them. Did you see the thing that's going around today of the 22 different mainstream news sites all parroting the exact same thing? Yes, and well not just that all the congresspeople. Yeah, do you see that?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
They're all saying the exact same thing and it's yeah I guess it's congresspeople not yes anchors.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
They've got saying the exact same script Oh, it's more than 12 Alex Jones had had a full 22 on his show So they kept adding to it at first it was two of them early in the morning Script They're so dumb. But they use a different tone of voice. But they give their own spin on it because they're performers. It's wild.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Why is it so exciting? I think it's something like deep down in humanity. It's like we love storytelling. Yeah. And these days, conspiracy theories are like... I mean, 10 years ago, conspiracy theories were fringe and they were... Tell me about it. Right?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yeah. But then you get into the people that are like, the whole world's a stage. Trust the plan. Q's in control.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Which documentary? The one that had the really cool Q thing? Yeah, but I don't trust a documentary like that either, because HBO, that's the definition of mainstream media. So I try to stay somewhere in the middle of that.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I had him in and he explained it. I'm pretty sure that I did see the documentary.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Oh, yeah, perfect. Perfect fertile ground for that kind of controlled reverse opposition, whatever bullshit psyops. And that's where, for me, the bottom line is can I corroborate it with primary sources? And Q is the definition of no. Of course I can't. It's like, what is it, a time traveler that's coming back that's telling us how to save the world or something? I don't understand.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I mean, it's simultaneous to us kind of getting like some version of UAP disclosure that implies time travel. Yeah. Which is like, Lord knows what that is. Right. But it's just so fun to speculate because it's like. How would we know?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Just like with the vaccines. They always have to make it dangerous. It's dangerous to say that this might have side effects.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
$65,000 worth of hot dogs flown from Chicago for a White House party.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Did you ever see the archived Instagram posts from James Oliphantis' Instagram? No. Because that's a dark place. So there's so many layers to Pizzagate that they tried to cover up intentionally for very good reason. Well, how about the logos?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Well, the thing is I avoid, and the way I've talked about it, I've avoided all the symbols and logos and even some of the pizza stuff because I think there's so much more ripe, clear evidence that is way more powerful. And James Alfonso's Instagram account is a great example. Where can you find it online? So you cannot find it on Instagram anymore.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
It's only been archived onto other sites, which is kind of sketchy because it's like, how do I know you're not adding photos and stuff? So you kind of have to dig and dig and dig and cross reference over and over and over to make sure that you're getting sort of like the consensus because everyone watched as it happened.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
So people like Liz Croak and people like Alex Jones, like they saw these things come out and that you can find plenty of different archives of all of James Alphonse's Instagram posts. And there are things like photos of children with their arms taped to tables. And the caption is looks like a fun time.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And then people that have always been commenting on his posts, like the people that are interacting with his posts all the time, have even weirder Instagrams where it's like kill room. And there's a coffin that's open and things like that. There's like a photo of like a walk-in freezer. And it's like, man, looks like you've been having a fun weekend. Things like that that are just super dark.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And a bunch of babies and a bunch of symbolism, a bunch of children. And it's all photos on their Instagram in plain daylight. And they all got scrubbed, obviously. Jesus Christ. And that's not to mention Podesta's art collection and the Marina Abramovich connections. It goes on and on and on and on and on. Yeah.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And we're talking about the Clintons with the Haiti scandals, with the cocaine in Arkansas. It's like the thing is that we sound crazy. I sound crazy to someone that doesn't do their own research because you just start – there's so many layers of like –
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
crazy shit that's happened with some of these people yeah that if you don't know the history of a person like bill clinton and hillary clinton it's really easy to think oh that's just so insane that you would think that they would be involved in it and first of all they frame it in the articles about pizzagate they say hillary clinton was the mastermind of a global pedophile sex trafficking ring all headquartered in this pizza shop which is not what anyone ever claimed
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Classic frame job, which Nancy Pelosi explains very well, where you make a false claim and you say that's what they're saying and then you discredit the false claim. But if you really learn the history of the Clinton family, just as one example. Did you ever read The Strange Death of Vince Foster? No. But I know a little bit about the Foster situation and a couple of those weird deaths earlier on.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I was actually just reading about that specific murder in Whitney Webb's books like two nights ago because she goes over that too because it's a huge question mark.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And his family claimed that that wasn't the right gun. He had a black gun and his family was like, no, he owned a silver gun. All these weird things. They never found the bullet. Like all sorts of things that just don't add up. And that was right after Epstein had first walked into Bill Clinton's life. That was between White House visit number one and White House visit number two.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
While Epstein was funding the refurbishing of the entire West Wing of the White House.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I mean, I think you don't mean that literally. I think you mean that in a more metaphorical way.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
But you intentionally keep them separate. You're not hiring them. They don't work for you. Right. They're a private entity. It's like layers of obfuscation.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Well when you study where he came from and how he got plucked from the Dalton school and then got put into Bear Stearns and they got put through Bear Stearns and then got put into money management.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
It was teaching at the Dalton School, and then he was a banker at Bear Stearns, which he conveniently left when this big scandal broke that implicated him and the director, Goldstein, that had hired him and had been helping him up. And then he left and kind of took the fall and took the dirt with him.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And then he went into the arms running businesses, which is where he met Maxwell, Daddy Maxwell, not daughter Maxwell, and Adnan Khashoggi and – lease and all these other arms traffickers. And that's where he got into those. So it's like you walk slowly into these worlds. And as they're doing that, I'm imagining they're taking tabs on of like, what kind of guy is this and what's he into?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And he's working with arms traffickers. And some of those arms traffickers were famous for blackmail, like Adnan Khashoggi. He was famous for having his yacht filled up with cameras and given his arms deals everything they could ever want while he's selling weapons to them. And he's got his whole yacht wired up with cameras. Trump later bought that yacht, which is super interesting.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Do you know about that? So Trump, check this out. And I'm not claiming that Trump is in on everything. It's a very complex thing here. But Trump's history is pretty weird. He bought the Plaza Hotel, which is where the blue suite parties that blackmailed J. Edgar Hoover happened. Do you know about those?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Oh, dude. So J. Edgar Hoover, the founder of the FBI- This is where I thought I was starting this fucking job to talk about GameStop and to talk about like the financial markets and shit. And then I realized how important intelligence agencies and organized crime are to how the world works.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And I just got deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper into like, I don't want to miss out on some of Epstein stuff.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Well, we'll get there. This is all connected. I could talk about the Epstein stuff for fucking days and start all kinds of trouble for your podcast and shit. But, um, Well, I think that trouble is supposed to be coming out publicly. I don't think it's going to.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
That's how it feels. You haven't read Whitney Webb's books, have you? No. You really should.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
So the thing about her stuff online is that she comes off as way more unhinged. And she's very smart. She's very smart. And she's on it. But she's now very concerned, rightly so, about the sort of technocratic nature of what might be to come. But her research on Jeffrey Epstein is looking backwards at the history of organized crime, the history of Epstein.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And it paints a very like we know very well who he worked for and we know who he was associated with. She has primary sources with pages of sources cited about who put him where, who he interacted with, who said what about him, who claimed what about his life. And it's like it's two full books and it's very well sourced with primary sources cited all the way throughout.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And so it's like, we don't actually really need the Epstein files to know what was going on. They'll hopefully include a lot of new details.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
So take Leslie Wexner that we were talking about earlier. No, we already have the flight locks.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Oh, yeah. They're all there, and you can read them online. They're on archive.org, as well as other places. But Leslie Wexner is a great example here. Um, Leslie Wexner owns Victoria's Secret and L Brands, right? He's the bank that bankrolled Jeffrey Epstein.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And I was saying earlier that he signed the power of attorney over to Jeffrey Epstein so that Jeffrey Epstein was able to sell his assets, manage his assets, buy on his behalf. He could sell Victoria's Secret without Leslie Wexner in the room or even his knowledge if he wanted to, because that's the level of power of attorney that he signed over to Jeffrey Epstein when he was his money manager.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And the reason why you do that is so that you can claim that you don't know about his operation. He was just my money manager. I didn't know he was running this thing because I wasn't involved in any of those transactions. But what that meant is that Leslie Wexner damn well knew. We could go into the mega group and we could go into his connections to Charles Bronfman, all these other things.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
That's how they were recruiting, is they were recruiting from the Victoria's Secret modeling, and Jeffrey Epstein was claiming that he was a rep. But do you know about the CEO of Abercrombie & Fitch that went down for running a sex trafficking group? Yeah. So he was Leslie Wexner's guy. When Leslie Wexner, he bought Abercrombie & Fitch in like 1990, maybe 91, 89. Yeah.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And then one of the first things he did was he put that dude into position as CEO. That was Leslie Wexner's dude. And he becomes the CEO and he's gay and he likes really hot young male models. And he started running a male sex trafficking ring out of Abercrombie & Fitch. So Leslie Wexner, this... A dude who is a self-proclaimed possessed by a demon. What? Yeah, yeah.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Whitney has a whole chapter where she goes into this article that was done by a mainstream news source like 10, 20 years ago where they're interviewing Leslie Wexner and asking him about how he came to power and what's his secret. It's called his D-book, D-Y-B-U-K, and you can read about this on Wikipedia as well.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
He describes in his own words that he's possessed by a debuk, which is like a Yiddish word for an evil demon that drives him for more and more and more and more. It's in his own words. Is this, is he being hyperbolic?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
No, I mean, I wasn't in the room, but I assume based upon the wording and how it's put, I assume it's like- Let's find it.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
It's like a billionaire. I mean, it's in the text. It's directly quoted in the text in One Nation Under Blackmail, actually, which is in that backpack. One Nation Under Blackmail?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Highly recommend, but it's super dense. It's a hard read. I've read it three times now, and I still am taking notes and trying to look things up to understand it because she's just so researched. And it's things like this, where she's gone back to the original article where they were interviewing him, and he's just like a CEO. So they're just asking him, what's your secret to success?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And he's like, I'm possessed by, I have a drive for more. And he chose the word d-book, which is a Yiddish word.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And time in the game counts for a ton. It counts for so much. And that's my greatest weakness in a lot of ways, among several, is that I'm just really new to the game. And so I'm constantly catching up on shit. And as stuff breaks, like Pam Bondi, for example, I have no history on who Pam Bondi is because I wasn't paying attention when Pam Bondi was in Florida.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
So that's just to point out that, like, A... He's a fucking weird dude. He's a sketchy dude. He's running two sex trafficking rings out of his companies that he doesn't know anything about. And simultaneously, he founded, I mean, the Wexner Foundations and the Leslie Wexner Heritage Foundation. Those are also very... interesting and controversial.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
They're very tied to Israel because he is one of the foremost Israeli philanthropists, despite being an American. But he founded what was called the mega group, which is a essentially a I mean, it was not disclosed for a long time. It was secret. And it is a group of Jewish billionaires that get together on behalf of global Judaism, which is not uncommon.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And there's nothing wrong with that if they're not committing crimes. Um, but they would get together and meet and it's people like Leslie Wexner, Charles Bronfman. The list is we could look it up. Um, and that group, it is unclear if we have proof that they were conducting espionage, but there are, there are, uh,
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
All of them have ties to organized crime through various elements, like the Bronfman's were liquor were rum runners as one example that were then involved in the mob. Leslie Wexner is involved in these trafficking rings, et cetera. And that group seems to have been directly associated with Jeffrey Epstein.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And she's, again, she's one that she shows all the primary sources and like lays it all out. This is what we know. And this is where the source came from. And this is what it said. And these are possible explanations for it. Here's one or two or three explanations of what it might be. But we don't really know because this is as far as the evidence goes.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And so Leslie Wexner is just one where there's all this swirling evidence all around him that the in order for him to not be aware of what's going on and to not have been an active part of this is damn near unbelievable in my eyes, allegedly.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yeah. Yeah, which you know I've learned to do because I mean I started on tick-tock where you can't even say certain words or you'll get you'll get taken off a tick-tock, right?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yeah, but like the so the files getting released I am NOT expecting them to come out in any complete form because the the mainstream understandings that Jeffrey Epstein was the guy
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Jeffrey Epstein was just an employee of these organized crime rings that work on behalf of like the CIA and Israeli Mossad and British intelligence and the whole because organized crime is the black markets, the dark things, the sex, the drugs, the rock and roll, the child trafficking and intelligence agencies were designed to be legitimate governments. A point of access to organized crime.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And so I'm having to play catch up on what was going on. And the people that have been here for forever, like the Alex Joneses of this world, the Jacques Vallées, the people that watch things break live, you just get a different level of context. And then you get the David Ikes that are like, It's fucking reptiles, dude. They're all reptiles.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I mean, theoretically, intelligence agencies were supposed to be Truman wanted the intelligence agencies to be a newspaper about what's going on in the world for the president to know. Right. But Alan Dulles was not about that. Alan Dulles, founder of the CIA, was like, I want to do covert operations. And very immediately, covert operations were like overthrowing the government of Guatemala, Iran.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
buying the elections in Italy. They bought the elections in Italy by just passing giant bags of cash to the mafia so they would just go buy the election right after World War II because they needed to not let Italy fall to the communists. It's where the Vatican is. So the CIA, though Truman okayed it, hoping that it would be a newspaper, the CIA has been covert operations from the start.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And covert operations is... All about public-private partnerships so that you can't have it traced back to you, right? Because if you get caught doing MKUltra shit, the government's fucked, right? Right.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And so what they want to do is they want to outsource MKUltra shit or child trafficking shit or drug running shit to that shell company that's hiring that guy that works at that organized crime, right?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
bingo and that is all and so that's what the deep state is the deep state is the conglomerate of organized crime and intelligence agencies that work in the shadows as well as the halls of power but they're not supposed to exist and we're not supposed to know about them but they've always existed because the before we even founded the CIA during World War II there is this bombing of the ship in a port on the eastern seaboard the USS Liberty is confusing my memory right now nothing
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
It was called Operation Underworld. There's a Wikipedia page about Operation Underworld, and there's a whole bunch more about it as the ship blows up in harbor. And they were building this big new ship. What year was this? It would have been in the early 40s, I believe. It was during World War II, inside of World War II. And the ship was blown up. And it's not clear if it was German U-boats.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
There are reports that later Meyer Lansky and the mob took credit for it, like low-key, but we don't really know for sure who blew it up. But when it blew up, the U.S. government got really worried that They had no way to secure the ports along the eastern seaboard because all the ports were run by the mob because the mob ran all the unions, right?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And so they, rather than trying to wrestle the ports, control the ports back from the mob, they just went to the mob and said, we'll partner with you. If you guys lock down the ports, we'll let you kind of do your thing. And that's kind of what Operation Underworld was all about. And so what they did during World War II is they literally gave control over the entire eastern seaboard.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I mean, I'm being facetious, but they gave control over all the ports on the eastern seaboard to the goddamn drug smugglers, like to the mob, which their favorite thing is to smuggle things. Drugs, weapons, guns, duh, whatever. I don't know. And so before the CIA was even founded, the OSS, the intelligence agency during the wartime, was already partnering with organized crime.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
David, have you seen David coming after me on Twitter recently? He came after me, too.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And the people that founded those intelligence agencies, like Alan Dulles and John Foster Dulles, they were corporate lawyers. And that's – can I just keep going on this? Because this is like – This is the thing that blew my mind, right? Is I was trying to research GameStop and shit.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And then I started to realize that there's this whole monstrosity that is an official part of our government, these intelligence agencies, that when you really learn their history and read about their official history, let alone their history that sort of is still secret. It is very clear that they've been off the rails right from the start.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And that's true inside of every like whether you're reading Legacy of Ashes and The Devil's Chessboard, very well researched official books about this shit, or if you're doing Internet research. And the reason why you'd start an intelligence agency using a corporate lawyer instead of like.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
a doctor or a military guy or something is because a corporate lawyer is already familiar with all of the big CEOs of all the big corporations, right? Alan Dulles worked at Sullivan and Cromwell as a lawyer. And so he was very familiar with IG Farben, producing Zyklon B for the Nazis. He was familiar with Standard Oil.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
He was familiar with shipping companies and fruit companies and all these companies all around the world. And he's got good connections with them all. And so you suddenly, you hire one guy, Alan Dulles, and you have just hired an entire network of multinational corporations, theoretically to work on behalf of the US.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
But when you read the histories and you read what Alan Dulles was saying behind closed doors and everything, what he was doing is he was hiring the US government in order to fund a corporate
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
slush fund for corporations to utilize this power this newly government bestowed power to essentially wage violence that is sanctioned because you see what I'm saying because all those corporations the perfect example is Guatemala United Fruit Company had bought up all this land in Guatemala and was growing bananas like crazy and A lot of the land was just sitting vacant.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And Jacobo Arbenz comes into power, and he's like, this is bullshit. There's this American corporation that's owning all of our land, that's making all of us poor, and they're not even using a bunch of this land. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to buy back the land. He didn't take it.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
He bought it back from the United Fruit Company, and he was going to distribute it for free to all the farmers that were destitute, which is like... Socialist kind of, but it's also pretty badass to use like your government money to buy all your farmers land from this multinational corporation. But that pissed United Fruit off. And this is right as the CIA was getting founded.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And United Fruit was a client of Sullivan and Cromwell. And Alan Dulles was a lawyer there, right? So United Fruit goes to Alan Dulles. His brother, John Foster Dulles, was the secretary of state. Yeah, secretary of state. So these two brothers that are both lawyers for Sullivan and Cromwell are the director.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Well, technically, Alan Dulles was not yet the director of CIA, but he was like the founder. He just had a beef with Truman and with the first couple of leaderships of the president there. And so United Fruit goes to them and is like, hey, can we overthrow this piece of shit? Because he's fucking with our business, right? So this is like how corporations wanted this government sanctioned power.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
You get too certain of yourself, right? You think you have the answers and you just keep going. A little bit of a grift with some of these folks.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And they, through those two brothers, lobbied the United States, propagandized the United States. They hired propaganda artists to propagandize them. And they painted him as a communist right at our doorstep.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And then the CIA went in and through a series of kind of somewhat botched attempts called PB Success and PB, or rather Operation Success and Operation PB Success, they overthrew the government of Guatemala and they ousted him. They bombed Guatemala City and they got rid of him and they put in their own dictator that started like, you know, 30 years of
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
absolute devastation and like military rule and just death, like really dark shit that basically tore Guatemala apart on behalf of United Fruit.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
They did the same thing in Iran, like three years later with Kermit Roosevelt, where it became this thing where these multinational corporations that are affiliated with this intelligence agency, just kind of through friendships and through partnerships and through the network.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
They started to utilize Alan Dulles and the CIA in general on their behalf to do things for the corporate interest because they are the power players in this world. They always have been the power players in this world. And they had been itching for quite some time to get that government-sanctioned ability to wage violence against anyone around the world.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And we've been doing that ever since, using the intelligence agencies on behalf of the corporate blob, which is not always distinguishable from organized crime. And just going off and whacking people and overthrowing governments and starting coups right to this day, to Ukraine 2014.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Well, it's an easy temptation to fall into, especially with the Internet. Like every single day, people in my position, I mean, people in your position, too. Like we have the ability to just like I'm going to get views and money if I drop deep down this grift. But a lot of them are not like a lot of them. When you look into them, you realize, oh, there's like literally nothing there.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
That's the whole point is you want to set it up in a series of shells. And the darker it is, the more you have to kind of separate it so that when Jeffrey Epstein goes down, no one knows who he worked for. He worked for intelligence. And I was told to leave him alone. And so you're left to speculate who he worked for.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yeah. And it's all it's like it's not like it's literally a cabal of shadowy dudes around one table. It is just an alignment of many different interests, different families, different corporations, different bankers or organized crime groups all sort of playing games for power. And these guys have that much power and those guys have that much power and interests tend to align like.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
The general vibe in the corporations will probably align with the vibe of the bankers. And their vibe will probably align a fair bit with some of this organized crime stuff. And we'll fund this terrorist organization, Mujahideen, until it's not convenient anymore. And then we'll actually use them as a patsy to go to war because there's terrorists over there. God damn it.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And they've gotten quite good at kind of weaving those narratives through their operations that they've either covered up or exposed what they wanted to in various ways to kind of steer our narrative around what we know. But when you actually read the history, it's like, holy shit. It's crazy how much- Did you ever read Smedley Butler's War as a Racket?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Do you know about the business plot, about what they tried to do with him? No.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yeah, there was almost a Nazi coup in the 30s where we almost got taken over by our own military and became Nazis because Prescott Bush and a bunch of his other buddies were on Team Nazi. And it's because they were all funding the Nazis, and they wanted us on that team. And they tried to recruit Smedley Butler to be the lead of this. And take over the country.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I suspect, I'm always kind of forming my understanding research by research, but I suspect that it was World War I where they realized how much power you can have if you're funding both sides of a war.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
He was one of the most decorated Marines, or was he in the Army of all time? General? Un-fucking-believable. Yeah, War is a Racket is a relatively short book that anyone can buy online, and I highly recommend it to everyone. That paired with... But that's so wild that that was 33.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I think when Elon bought Twitter. And it's still not making it into the mainstream, mainstream zeitgeist. But there's, I mean, and you've played a big part in this too, this whole decentralized media space. As technology naturally walks forward,
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I think that we're living in this world where this all these rich people, all these evil controlling sickos of varying degrees, they come from a world where they could control everything. They could control the newspapers. They could buy out the press. They could pay for journalists. Yeah. And that strategy walked itself into technology. And suddenly technology is just naturally walking forwards.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And this just changes the game like you can't. use those old strategies when you have a phone and internet and social media. And we're watching the cognitive sort of breakdown of their old ways that they don't know how to adapt. And it's just scheme after scheme after scheme is crumbling. And the secret is just free speech. That's all you need is free speech and communication on the internet.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
You need a guy like Elon that has... I was glad that Elon said the stuff about assassination on the podcast the other day because that needs to be said is that they are taking great risk. Even Pam and Cash, all of them, are taking great risk to do this.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And it would not be the first time that someone's spouse had been whacked or someone's kids had been threatened or like they'd, you know, created a scandal. Like, do you know about the scandal of the Chappaquiddick Bridge with... Chappaquiddick. Chappaquiddick. With Ted Kennedy it was, right?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
That is such a great illustration of how like it might not even be you that they go after. It might be just... There's all sorts of ways that if you do the wrong thing, allegedly they might... Come after people around you. Yeah. And so people like Cash and Pam and RFK are taking on a lot of risk. And that's also why I think that the like my following is real conspiratorial.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Usually like I'm moderate compared to most of my people. And there's a lot of suspicion of these guys right now of like they must already be controlled if they can even get in there. It's like I don't know.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yeah, until Trump came in, that was the only election interference that I was willing to talk about because it was very provable, very obvious.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yep. And more and more we're seeing that they are literally importing voters and paying them with government money to huge amounts of money when we have homeless veterans on the street. FEMA funds. Over 300,000 children are missing that have crossed our border that we have delivered to unknown sponsors.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Dude, you were a conspiracy theorist when I was not even here yet.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
The whole thing was... They literally locked up the... You know the guys that built the border wall? Steve Bannon and... It was Steve Bannon and Dustin Stockton and I think one or two other people when they wouldn't build it. These guys just went out and raised millions of dollars on their own and they literally just started building border wall. Do you know about that?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And then I now do a podcast every couple weeks with Dustin Stockton, who's a whole trip of a guy. And he started telling me the story of like, what are you saying? I had no idea that they had literally just started building it from a private citizen standpoint. Until they arrested them.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yep. I mean, they were just trying to get everything out as fast as they could. They were deleting files and just giving out aid money and announcing more and more foreign war aid to Ukraine and Israel and everything.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
It's crazy, dude. Yeah. Yeah. And I am really excited for everything that's going to come out. But I'm also... Before we go any further... I'm reading into the kids.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Oh, the children are actually missing BBC. Go fuck yourself.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
because i work with this guy named ryan mata who spent three years of his life going to the border with his own dollars and filming documentaries about this and interviewing the people that like rescue traffic children and actually interviewing whistleblowers from within the biden regime's trafficking scheme like this the people that were dropping kids off with sponsors one sean
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Harris Faulkner. I mean, I suspect that every news, every single like there's every incentive for Trump to find them and to do something about it. But I think the vast majority of them are dead, unfortunately. So that's a Facebook link.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And this is the thing is that there are certain topics that are so disinformationalized and so sensationalized that when you start to research into them, you realize you're inside of this media madness that it's so hard to find the truth. And COVID was one of those. And J6 was one of those. The elections was one of those. And when you find that, it becomes, for me, it sets a bell off.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
A, I'm in something I should learn about. But B, I have to be very careful. And I don't know – and you never know what you can trust in those spaces. And so that's where I change my switches for what to believe. And I kind of open up the bandwidth in terms of take it all in but be very skeptical because that's where you get wild conspiracy theories that are unproven and trust me.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And then you also get all kinds of propaganda trying to obfuscate the narrative.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And there's whole conspiracy theories that I think are like that. And Q might be one of them. I don't know. I think Flat Earth is one of them.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Like, think about how, like, right. So 10 years ago, Alex Jones was saying that the whole government's controlled by pedophiles. And he was a psychopath. Or I guess more than 10 years ago now. And then Jeffrey Epstein got caught.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Siberia. I mean, they're all over Mexico. They're all over, like... Oh, Jesus. Yeah, imagine what is in Mexico. The government of Mexico has been partnered with the cartels for at least two administrations, is what it looks like. Jesus. And the cartels are just, like, running that whole game, that whole sort of northwestern, like, quarter of Mexico. I can only imagine what we'll find down there.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
The cartels are highly militarized. Sure. And they're extremely advanced. But sure they're not gonna come with us.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And the problem is that it was not just illegal fentanyl and illegal heroin. The problem is that the Sackler family and the pharmaceutical industry was in on it. And so doctors were prescribing it to normal people. And it was just devastating our whole population all at once. It's so tragic.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And so the administration now in Mexico, Claudia Sheinbaum, she is like the protege of AMLO, who was the leader of that same party from before. And I think he served two terms. So it's been something like the last six to eight years or something. Their official cartel policy is hugs, not bullets.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And what they basically describe is we're causing more death by going after the cartel, and we'll just agree to not touch them. We'll just agree to leave them alone. And I'm kind of exaggerating again, but hugs, not bullets is their official slogan for their policy about the cartels. So it makes sense for us to fucking do something. It's like, we'll do the bullets. You can keep your hugs.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I mean, I was worried. I kind of came out a little hot and I posted on Twitter that was like, no fucking drone strikes inside of the US. No, sir. No, you're not. Because the way that the sort of announcement was worded of like, we're declaring cartel members, terrorist organizations, and we will be tart and drone strikes are like totally a okay on that is what someone was saying about it.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And I was like, Erica. And I was like, where's the line on allowing the targeting of cartel? Because once you start targeting terrorists, that's why 9-11 was so subversive, is it turned everyone into a possible enemy of the state that can be shipped off to Guantanamo because terrorism is just this elusive concept. And anyone can just become a terrorist if we just call them a terrorist.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Send them to Guantanamo Bay for a decade for something they didn't do. Right. And you brought up the Hunter Biden laptop and those 51 intelligence agents. I wanted to look into it. So I looked at the letter itself and I actually read the letter. And on the letter at the bottom, they all signed it.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And if you just start Googling the people that signed it, the very first two names were ex-directors of the CIA that lied to us about Guantanamo Bay and lied to us about surveilling American citizens and lied on the stand. And so they're professional liars that are from the intel agencies that are saying, oh, no, no, no. Like Hunter Biden is all good above board.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
It's like, why would we ever trust that? But that's how powerful spin is when every media article parrots that, no, it wasn't made in a lab. There's no evidence it was made in a lab. That couldn't be true. Yeah. Everyone just believes it because we want to believe that that's how the world is.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I was a leftist that didn't think about shit before COVID. Me too. No, you thought about shit.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And to be fair, I think we're kind of both still sort of leftist. What left should be socially progressive. We need because politics is supposed to be a balance. We need regulation of corporations. That's a leftist ideology. Yes. But we need individual liberty and we're supposed to have a balance. of the two.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And I think my theory is that it used to be easier to control the right because it was a big money party and you could go to war with them and you could lead us around by the right. But as technology came in, they realized it was way easier to spin narratives to the collectivists.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And if you can get all the collectivists, the leftists, to go along with the narrative, that's way more effective than these individual liberty people with the guns.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
The most ignorant people ready to be programmed coming in. I mean, that's always how communist revolutions have been programmed.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And in a world with no meaning where, like, life is meaningless for 99% of the population.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yeah. You're on a team. And I understand it because I come from that. I come from one of the most liberal cities in this fucking country.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And but then I'm like, COVID's happening. And I was taking it really seriously. Like my last Facebook post was like, all young people, we should lock down and take this really fucking seriously. And then my all my roommates were like, hey, let's go down to Seattle and do the BLM protests. I'm like, whoa, like you're a mass Nazi.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
you're like on me about my masking and you're trying to go burn down Seattle in a group of like a hundred thousand people. What? And so they all went down to Seattle and I'm back at home. And I mean, I still love them to death. Like if they watch this, like no shade to them. Like, but I'm at home watching the live streams of the BLM protest. And I'm like, where'd that pallet of bricks come from?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Right. And that got me thinking. Where'd that pallet of bricks come from?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Especially downtown where there's meth heads everywhere.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Why you got a basket of fucking bricks? No. And so then the thing is, I start asking a question. I ask one question in that leftist environment, and it's just like... Don't ask questions. Like, I'm fucking out of here.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And questions are met with, like, obey the herd. And they demonize you. And they don't ever attack the argument. They don't ever engage with the argument. No. And that's what I love about the job that I've fallen into as a sort of like researcher is that I have no problem with being wrong.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
My favorite moments in my career so far have been when someone's proved me wrong and I've been like, oh, shit. Thanks, bro. I didn't know that. I'm going to research that and look it up because there I mean, some people can get trapped in their ego and need to stay on some hill and die there. Right. But like that's retarded. You don't need to do that.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I mean, maybe there's some of the mystery element. But the thing is that so many of them are, it's a knowledge. It's a thirst for knowledge because some of them are total bullshit. But some of them are clearly there's something there. Clearly. Right? Yeah.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
It's a progress for intelligence, for like learning. That's what the Academy of Ideas was built on. Right. Right. And so having this culture of censorship and of herd mentality, especially in the universities, is the most toxic thing to our national future you could ever incorporate.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And it's ironically in 1984 that he's saying this. Well, I mean, these tactics are old. And I more and more started to look at like we change from kinetic warfare at the atom bomb.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
to like psyop and subversive and information warfare and we were still doing kinetic warfare but there's all these little proxy wars that were based on propaganda and like in order to spin narratives in order to get support and more and more as technology has evolved one of my kind of sticks is that this the warfare is information warfare now because what they need to do is they need to convince everyone that covet is real and that you need to lock down and you need to wear your mask and you take the vaccine so we can profit and all of that is information
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
The one that I just recently kind of was reminded of is, you know, the story that Disney sent kids to Epstein Island? Yeah, I did hear that. Oh, such a money conspiracy theory. It's not true. It's when you look it up, you realize that... I mean, a lot of the information is kind of gone. It's hard to even tell if it's legitimate websites and information, which is already a red flag.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And that changes it from soldiers fighting soldiers to government agencies or rather NGOs and all these conglomerates of like of money, like groups essentially targeting all of us. And we become the targets of that warfare. And so it's on us to get educated.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
You've never seen this? I know what you're talking about, but I don't think I've seen it.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Because the Taliban shut down the opium production. The Taliban outlawed opium production and burned all the fields and got rid of it all.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Oh, my God. Play this. We're going to head to Afghanistan.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
He was given very strict orders that morning. They can give different crops. Grow tomatoes, guys. Yeah, right. Hey, you can grow apples. My favorite statistic about that era is that... I'm going to get the number wrong, but it... So opium is only grown in so many places, right? And it used to be in the Vietnam region, in Southeast Asia, the Golden Triangle.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
But the ones that are still up, they just sent them into like the ocean, like they were going on cruises that happened to be in the vicinity of the island. That's totally different.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Then it changed to the Golden Crescent, which is Afghanistan. And when that era happened, it was something like 70%, 80% of the world's opium supply was coming from Afghanistan. And if you just do a little math and think it through, you realize that we have this gigantic opioid market of legal opioids, of the Sackler family and all these pharma companies.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And you realize that it's physically impossible for them not to be in on this scheme because where are they growing their opium? They're not growing it here. They're not growing it in Africa. So by definition, when you just think through what's going on here, you realize that some of those opium fields are illegal heroin and some of those opium fields are big pharma.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yep. I mean, they've always got to control. So opium has been one of the most important crops to control ever since the British Empire and like the days of tall ships. You know about the opium wars with China?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
That was a funny history to learn about. Yeah, crazy. Yeah, because that's the thing is that I've been basically learning everything from scratch as I've gone because I didn't know shit. How many years have you been in this? Two, less than two.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And so it becomes this, and that's kind of, I think that's the fun part of the game. We thought about buying the island. Dude.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
It's just a scientific process of having the right degree of, like, understanding of just, like, the right amount of, like, need to see primary sources and real evidence and the ability to look and test a hypothesis and see what comes out and not being attached to one conclusion beyond what the evidence actually suggests.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
But I had the benefit of being a normie when I started. And so I walked my way in piece by piece.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Like I started with all the BlackRock conspiracy theories. I started with who owns... The media, who owns the tampon aisle, who owns all these things. And I would go into the grocery stores and do the videos in the grocery stores where I would like go to the cereal aisle and be like, who owns all these cereals? And it turns out the entire cereal aisle is three companies.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And I mean, the tampon aisle is even better because they're all getting sued for having reprotoxic chemicals in the tampons, meaning they'll kill your reproductive system. Not only that, toxic shock syndrome.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And so that sort of, I like walked myself slowly into learning and I walked my audience along with me. And I also developed this understanding of, I mean, I used to be a teacher. And so I have this, a certain understanding of like, how do you communicate in a way that's speaking from their perspective instead of from my perspective?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Which right now I'm just talking to you instead of talking to them because it's more fun. But when I actually make my videos, I do my best to try to put myself in like,
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
in the shoes of who I'm trying to access and what do they know and what do I need to communicate and show evidence of for them to understand that you can look into this and check my sources and you can think about this, you have permission to think about this.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And there's still always more to learn and always more to connect. And we get new information that puts new light on old situations. It's this constant rearranging game of understanding. And I just love that. I mean, yeah, most people don't have time for all of it. But as we're sort of stratifying into this ecosystem of content of like creators and journalists and thinkers.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
That we're all kind of collectively doing the work together. And some of us are more integral than others. Some of us are just click baiters. And some of us are like, I'm somewhere in the middle. And then you get some people that are really professional about it, like problematically professional about it. Like they can only get so much done.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
No, not much actually, not hardly at all. But I know it's one that's like one of those seminal moments.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
What would that false flag have taken us to? Like, what did it achieve?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yeah, I mean, 9-11 is the perfect example of that kind of false flag of this thing that's crazy, that has all these questions that get covered up, and then we just go to war in the Middle East with a country that— Then we have the Patriot Act and the Patriot Act II.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Who do you think did 9-11? Or like what conglomerate of groups were do you think were involved what?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I think the Tower 7 had information in it about both. I think it probably had information in it about the planning of the attack and or what was going on with the attack. But I also think it had information about other things that needed to go away. Maybe it's old CIA operations. Maybe it's banking information.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I don't know where the press conference was. I mean, I think it was in a room, but I'm not sure.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Even from planes hitting buildings, no building has ever collapsed like that. Other planes have hit buildings. Bombs have gone off in buildings. All sorts of stuff has happened to buildings, and they don't fall down like the main towers did, let alone Building 7.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yeah, except that he took out special insurance against plane crashes and against terrorism right before it happened.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Talking about Biggie, Diddy is on the menu. But it's important to mention as we're getting into all these like government conspiracy theories and like CIA did it, Israel did it, Saudi did it. No one's saying ever, unless you're dumb, that the whole government of any of these countries did it. Like when you say like people, it's like in the anti-Israel crowd, people get smeared a lot for like...
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
as though you're claiming that all of Israel did 9-11 or all of Israel did this thing. Or when you're talking about the CIA, it's more obvious when you're talking about the CIA. We're not saying that the whole CIA did something.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
We're saying that these groups, these covert intelligence agencies, they are fertile ground for walled off areas of need to know information behind levels of security clearances where plots can be hatched. And they always have been. That's the whole fucking point of an intelligence agency is to hatch plots. It's unreal that they would hatch such an evil and fucked up plot.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
But it happened, and you only need to do it. I mean, 9-11 happened when I was in grade school, and I remember where I was and all that shit. And that was the seed that just sort of sat under the ground until BLM that eventually sprouted for me. I always knew there was something weird, and I saw Zeitgeist when I was way younger. So I knew that there's weird shit in this world.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
in there no one knows where it is yep they're gonna raise that building i assume he's dead but there was so much like so much shit around it that like i don't feel 100 sure i feel like 95 sure that he's dead 98 sure that he's dead right i wouldn't go 100 either yeah right you know what i'm saying it's like there's very few things i feel 100 autopsy you'd have to do an autopsy on jfk2 and it was not his body
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
But I was a leftist that just wanted to go snowboarding and stuff. So I didn't really think about it until it walked into my city and told me to stay inside and get a jab and all sorts of shit. So they really fucked up with that one.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yeah. Do you know Mickey Willis at all? No. Do you know the Plandemic films at all? No. Oh, dude, you should really check them out. Yeah. He's around this area and I had not seen them before. Plandemic one was this doctor named Judy Mike of it's that blew the whistle really early on. And that is one of the things that got all this like the fact that you haven't heard of it and seen it.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I was a part of it. You were a part of that censorship.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
She got that same kind of treatment of like smear campaigns left and right and just hatred.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And that was a big thing that red pilled a lot of regular people like, like myself included. And, and a good example of like my take on that is I didn't know about ivermectin beforehand. So I didn't even just like be like, Oh, Joe Rogan said, I was like, fuck it. I'll look it up. They said that it was an award winning medication. I'll find the goddamn award that they got for it.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
So I looked it up and you found, and I found it. It's like, okay, cool.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Well, because ivermectin is a great threat to their profit. They can't make money off of it. And it works very, very well if you get it early enough.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I have a theory about that. And it's that they can't get an emergency use authorization if there is a drug that can be considered a cure, like a preventative.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
A treatment, right? Just a treatment. And I mean, you've said this many times, right? Is they needed to act all treatments because the one that they went with was administered IV post, like in the hospital. And it was very, very expensive. Right. Remdesivir is a whole super fucking dark rabbit hole.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Oh, yeah. And they knew that full well. They had already tested it out in Africa. And RFK's book, The Real Anthony Fauci, opened my eyes in a big way.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And it had been long enough since he was not a kook. Because he started doing the vaccine stuff for these moms that were coming to him with vaccine-injured kids. And he was not trying to do vaccine stuff, but he saw these kids and was like, I need to fight for these people.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
That's the story, right? There are certain narratives that are golden cows that you cannot touch. And the vaccine industry has always been one of them.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Measles included, speaking of the current thing that's a controversy.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Jesus Christ is why I it was such a red pill for me because I was like literally an ultra marathon runner that was going to the gym like three like three hours a day. Like I don't I need natural immunity. I already have natural immunity. Go fuck yourself. What are you doing? And the reason why I was talking about Mickey Wilson plandemic is because the second plandemic is called indoctrination.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And it's basically a magnum opus about how the vaccine industry, this golden cow, is not just like it's not just one thing or this thing or one thing. It's a organized group of profit takers that has been growing for decades. And Bill Gates and he lays out how Bill Gates got into it and is on camera saying how many profits he's made off of vaccines and
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
and how great of a business model vaccines are. And vaccines as a concept, great concept, but it is so lucrative if manipulated and corrupted that really evil people started to do really evil things with it.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Well, they got that orchestrated partway through that sequence because they were starting to get sued like fucking crazy. Right. Because there was all kinds of injuries.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And it's not just it's not just that you can't give them immunity. It's that you cannot just punish with fines. You have to punish with prison time, because if you don't punish with prison time, it will never change. That's true of the drug industry.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
That's true of our corrupt government officials that are like, for example, the person that was withholding these Epstein documents from Pam Bondi and she fired him. No, put him on a stand and at least give him a trial to make sure he didn't commit treason or something else. Right. And maybe he's fine and you let him go and he's just fired.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
But like if you are if you're not going to send the Epstein clients to prison, if you're just going to like find a couple of people like 2008 banking collapse, we'll find one like we'll find all the bankers a little bit and we'll just put one little pawn of a banker in jail. That's why we have this crazy fucking... 2008 was horrible, but it was by no means the last market crash that we're having.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Because no one ever went to jail. They just switched their tactics around and get ready for the next profit-taking event.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
The thing about white-collar crime is it's real profitable and there's no consequences.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And usually they're in bed with these intelligence agencies and organized crime aspects in some small ways or sometimes really big ways. Like in the case of the opium fields where they're clearly getting their opium from these poppy fields. And clearly they are interfacing with the illegal drug trades at least on some level.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Not necessarily saying they're collaborating, but they're certainly like getting it from the same suppliers. It's just, it's really dark.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Especially considering, so that was George W. Bush, right?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
But George H.W. Bush, this is one that's not totally declassified yet, but I've been digging deep into it. I got a whole bunch of documents on it and it's kind of declassified, is that during Vietnam era, We were managing all the opium production and the heroin production in Laos and in the surrounding area.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And realistically, if you had like the journalists of integrity from 1960s era alive today and they hadn't been bought out and shot in the head and whatever else happened.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And it was being sold to American service members to make money for the CIA for black operations. And that was George H.W. Bush. That was his time. That's why his nickname is Poppy. It's not because he's like the dad. It's because he was brought into that organization with Richard Helms.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Oh, that's why his nickname is Poppy. And that is still not mainstream CIA like disclosure news. There's a whole fucking rabbit hole about it. Like it is kind of disclosed that we were involved in that drug trade somewhat. But it's not disclosed that that's why all the Vietnam veterans came home addicted to heroin.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Because the CIA was selling heroin to them and to a lot of other parts of the world in order to raise funds for their black budget operations. Because the CIA has always had trouble funding all their operations.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
It's all tied in. So Bill Colby, who put that all together, he was in the heroin operations in Vietnam, and he was a little lower down and not running it. And then as he grew up and came to power in the CIA, and those other guys that were more competent—Richard Helms being the primary one, Richard Helms and H.W. Bush—
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
They were not involved when he went off on his own and tried to set up the cocaine smuggling. And that's why he bungled it so fucking bad, because he was a psychopath that didn't have the skill sets required in order to run something that complex.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And it eventually, when Barry Seale got popped, he was the guy that was flying the, like, it used to be I'll drive a truck with a brick of cocaine across the border. And then Barry Seale was this military CIA pilot that said, like, I'll just fill my whole fucking plane with cocaine and get like a thousand runs in one.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And he was just flying whole planes over to Mena, Arkansas, where Bill Clinton was the governor.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And they have to let Barry Seals out, which did happen. Oh, yeah. And when Barry Seal finally got popped, all the rats started to run and try to look out for their own. And eventually that led to Oliver North taking the stand and totally bungling his fucking job on the stand. He was supposed to be like, bro, you're supposed to be the fall guy. And now we just have this huge fucking problem.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Very well documented that originally, you're a fringe reporter, Gary Webb. You're making it all up. You're a disgrace. Gary Webb's writing Dark Alliance. You can look up his Wikipedia page. And Gary Webb exposed how Freeway Ricky Ross was the outlet for all this cocaine. And holy shit, Freeway Ricky Ross is a crazy story.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Dude! What a full circle. He goes from wanting to be a tennis pro to being the number one kingpin of cocaine, business mastermind. Doesn't know how to read.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Mm-hmm. No, I think that they needed to cover it all up because shit was starting to come out. Because Gary Webb was starting to fucking... I mean, maybe Gary Webb was after that. But then Gary Webb committed suicide by shooting himself in the head two times. It's like, okay, guys. Crazy movie about that, too.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
it down. You and him are the two guys I point to, and him a little more than you now, of when I'm like, where's the sane left still at? It's kind of like you guys. And like Eric Weinstein is a good example, Eric and Brett Weinstein. There's a couple.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
It's wild to watch the mainstream journalists like the MSNBC folk have to leave. Like Joy Reid just left, for example. And like when Don Lemon left.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
But they try to make it in the new media world. And they're just like, you have no value here because you were never good at this job. You were just good at reading propaganda to us. You look good and you got put on camera. Whereas Tucker Carlson gets kicked out and he fucking slays it. And he just grows bigger and bigger and bigger because he's not bought and he's not scared.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And he actually is good at communicating and interviewing and getting to the truth. And it's so cool to watch this seismic shifting in the industry. Yeah.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Garbage all over the place. And then you could also see his face get blown off, and they published photos of him from the official autopsy where his face was visible. I have a theory, and this is just mine.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Let's talk about that a little more. He's got some things to share with our friends. Jamie's got his own conspiracy. Heard that.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And the thing about the Internet that I love that gets me called a controlled opposition all the time is that I love that all of their tactics work backwards, too. I can use those tactics, too. I can make propaganda because what propaganda is is just convincing messaging.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And if you have convincing messaging in the hands of an evil fucking megalomaniacal dictator, government, CIA, whatever it is, that's really bad. But if you have propaganda tools in the hands of regular citizens that have morals and values that want the best for the world correctly applied, you can fight back against them.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And so there's this element where I'm like, I'm looking at how do you open people's minds? Like, how do you strategize to like get your, because it's a balance, right? Because when I'm reporting on something, it's important to tell the truth. It's important to be accurate. And accuracy, if you really dig enough and get enough accuracy, that reduces entertainment value.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
But if you find the way to balance entertainment value with accuracy the right way, which is always a moving target, right? You can change the world. Like I'm a regular dude. Two years ago, I was an Uber Eats driver, an ultra marathon running guide. I was like a no one in the middle of nowhere. And then I'm like, all right, I'll just contribute.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And I'll start trying to tell these stories, trying to learn and communicate what's going on.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I think that a lot of people try to get into podcasting and this internet field these days because it's what you're supposed to do. It's a business. But they don't realize that that's going to be your job every day for the rest of your life. You better fucking love it.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
because they can't do it because they're not interested. Yup. And it's a lot of work and a lot of hassle and there's no guarantee of success. Right. It's like a very saturated industry.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Do you want to go the angle of like what are the crafts or do you want to go the bigger angle of like what is the phenomenon?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
okay let's start with what is the phenomenon I think that right now science and religion and UAP exposure are all converging on similar truths and what I mean by that is that science so you know the science of consciousness how we don't really know where the fuck consciousness comes from right but there's a lot of people that start to suggest that it sounds like we're antenna that are receiving consciousness from some sort of consciousness field or some sort of other like if you're any Thomas Campbell
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
It goes and goes, dude. Because you're talking metaphysics, you're talking physics, you're talking history and disclosure about history. And I suspect that whatever consciousness is coming from is this multiverse, this consciousness field, this ether, this multidimensional thing, whatever. I suspect that's very similar to what UAPs are traversing in and out of and through.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And I suspect that's very similar to what we identify as either the gods, plural, the aliens, plural, that have these abilities we don't have. As well as God, God singular, which is probably the highest up above all of those things.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I suspect there's a version of all these things that are starting to converge on one truth, because when you learn about remote viewing, that's what really cracked it for me was learning how much money the CIA has invested in remote viewing over the years. The CIA is not spending millions and millions of dollars on some crackpot bullshit that's not going to work.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
They would for a little while, but they've been doing it and doing it and doing it. And now we've got disclosure from people that are coming out whistleblowing that they are doing it today and I'm in the program and this is how we did it. Have you listened to the telepathy tapes? I've listened to a few, a little bit of them. I've not listened all the way through.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And I suspect that all of that is... And there's a weaponization of it. I mean, it's not just public study of it. There's definitely been private study of it by the intelligence agencies and probably the weapons developers for a long time. I mean, I was very surprised to hear Elon's answer to your alien question the other day, which I understand that he probably couldn't talk about it anyway.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
It's like, nice try. I had to try. But, like, there's no way.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yeah. I don't. I mean... You got to respect a man's like private, like he's got NDAs up the wazoo for that kind of shit.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
They're all real. They're very subtle. That's what I would say too. Exactly. And I think that Flat Earth, a lot of the evidence that gets cited as Flat Earth, like for example, NASA fakes footage. And if you look into it, it's fucking obvious that NASA is putting out fake footage. They're clearly on wires in some of that footage.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Clearly some of that footage is underwater and there's bubbles fucking floating up and shit. Which footage? Just like NASA publishes all kinds of footage from like the ISS to they have live streams So they do like videos and no one ever watches it because like whoever watches So you think some of the ISS footage is fake?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
There's a lot of footage you can find online that has come that is coming from NASA where there's like little slips or like a guy is like they're doing their floating shit and then the buddy reaches out and grabs where a wire is to help his buddy get back into frame like little slips of the mind where they're like just trying to orchestrate I've never seen any of that
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And who knows if it's real or not? Yeah, so all I'm saying is that gets cited by flat earthers as like NASA's covering up flat earth. And what I'm saying is that there's a lot of reasons why NASA would cover up and produce fake footage from something like the ISS and every single one of them rhymes with aliens.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Because if there's any type of aliens going on up here, it's very possible that they are up there in that fucking space station or they're like they could be like, I don't know. And I'm not saying I think they are for sure. I'm just saying that people tend to look at a piece of evidence and jump too quickly on the one explanation that they're sure is right.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And sometimes there's other explanations and aliens apply to so many parts of our world like demons. Sound very much like the UAP phenomenon to me, right? A lot of these religious beliefs sound very much like explainable just with different wording by UAP phenomenon. As in some of these aliens, we seem to be being told that they communicate telepathically. They have energetic ability, right?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I'm getting to the point where I'm suspecting that we're going to be finding out that religion is like humans trying to interpret these phenomenon over millennia in all the human ways we would and telling stories about them. And I'm not saying that God's not real. I'm saying God is real. And that does not diminish God at all.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I almost think it makes God more important and more powerful to understand. Because from my understanding, correct me if you have a different one, it sounds like we're getting a lot of reports that are cross-corroborating that there's more than one thing going on here. It's not all aliens are the same. Some of them might be us from the future. Some of them might be us from under the water.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Some of them might be other species. It's really hard to pin down what all these phenomenon are. But they're definitely not just made up.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I mean, the UFO community is filled with people like that. And it's really hard to know who's who. It's super hard to know who's who.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And did you notice how recently, like a month ago sort of, there was this breaking story that set the whole UAP community on fire about this disclosure that I think Jeremy Corbo was coming out and whistleblowing on, if I remember correctly, that they were saying that they're going to trick us by saying that there's a mothership arriving in three years.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
right right yeah and it's and it becomes this thing where it's like how do you know it he's saying that he's exposing it but how do you know if he's exposed it's just like it's the ultimate test of are you skeptical enough and also open-minded enough and thoughtful enough also if there's a believer get them some bullshit feed the believer some bullshit exactly they don't even have to know that they're in on it right they don't have to know and it could be like kind of plausible bullshit and it could be corroborated with some other bullshit that you have
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I think that's what most bullshit artists are in most fields. I think it's usually useful idiots, like people like myself, genuinely. I am in some ways one of those people in the sense that if I get fooled by something, I become that, which is why it's so important to think really carefully and to be okay with being wrong because you never know what your sources are.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Let's see it real quick. Yeah, something I love about the JFK story is that there are so many deep experts that have really done the dig, and they don't all come to the same conclusions.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yeah, and that's also why I'm really I'm really careful not to do very many like leaks or whistleblows or like because How do I know who the fuck you are?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And no one would ever choose an egg shape when they're describing an aircraft. Right, right, right. Especially back then.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I mean, you could make the argument, not the Bhagavad Gita, but you could make the argument that back then people were writing fiction or wanted attention. Those could apply, but I'm skeptical. But yeah, I get down with the ancient ones. Like with the Graham Hancocks of this world.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
That was my first conspiracy theory stuff back when I was a leftist is I was just like ancient conspiracy theories, let's go. And it's so compelling. The Great Flood, the Randall Carlsons of this world and the way that they kind of talk about. And it's so obvious more and more and more. That there is a cover-up. And Jimmy Corsetti has been really going hard at mainstream archaeology lately.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
He's fantastic. To not just look at the evidence of the old school, like the ancient conspiracy theories, but actually to just go at the cover-up today. Because that sometimes is the most effective thing is to just target the cover-up. Because that is clear evidence that we're onto something.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
But then you do get people that go all the way to the guy that thinks Nibiru is the 12th planet or whatever. Zacharias Sitchin.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And there's people that go so far down these ancient conspiracy theory rabbit holes that I feel like we're getting way off track here, guys. We're starting to cite sources that are not credible and we're taking it to places where like, yeah, maybe the Anunnaki were here to mine gold and maybe we're, I mean, very plausible that we're all genetically engineered.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I think, but there's, there's like a fine line between, between maybe that could be true. And those stories are the best though.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I'm actually, I'm planning to write a book that is sort of like a series of books really in my, like across my later life. That is basically. Imagine writing a book that is like set in the, you could write ancient books about the old school where if that book was real, you could still wind up in today's world with all the same evidence we have and it could be real.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Even if back then it's crazy magic and there's like all this crazy shit going on, Could still end up with all the pyramids are left over from that and all the the ruins are here after that great flood thing happened Right and then you could like write all kinds of crazy conspiracy theory stories into today then that like how could you prove that? This is not real right?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And even their purpose doesn't make any fucking sense. Clearly they were not tombs.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I mean, pretty clearly they were some sort of power generation or something like that.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I've been seeing Timothy, the grandmaster of the Knights Templar guy that's going around on podcasts these days. Timothy someone. Yeah, dude, it's crazy.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Is he talking about the aquifers underneath them and the two types of stone sort of a thing?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And they're built on aquifers from the Nile flooding every year. And every year when the Nile floods, water rushes underneath those pyramids.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I suspect telepathy of some form. I suspect like alien capability. Do you think it's technology or do you think it's like- Well, it's some kind of technology, right? You don't think it could possibly be that aliens have the ability to literally move things with their minds?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yeah, because he's already hitting the neck. You're totally right.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Jimmy's done, Jimmy Corsetti's done some great videos where he compiles real videos of us moving large objects today. And like the trucks breaking and the cranes falling off of cliffs and all this shit of like, look at how hard it is to move these kinds of rocks. It's crazy.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And then when you look at the cover up, there's no reason for that level of cover up if it's just a building technology. That's where I start to go. Clearly, that is connected to these UAP technologies, to these free energy technologies, whatever it is. There has to be some sort of reason why covering up how these ancient structures and ancient cultures were built and worked.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Has to relate somehow to something very important and valuable today.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I saw a really funny meme the other day that was, it was like four pictures, and it was humanity gets really intelligent and invents AI. AI builds all these crazy technologies and pyramids. Sun flare wipes out AI. Humanity restarts. Yeah. It could be. That's a fair, I mean, how would we know?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
It is an interesting split in the conversation, right, between the solar flare conversation and the comet impact conversation. Right. And there's like evidence for both.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I mean, I'd imagine that we only lived inside of sorts of like Elora caves type places for a while, right? Right.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Entire cities that can house thousands and thousands and thousands of people. And a couple of smart researchers point out really astutely that if you were doing that to hide from other humans, to protect yourself from other humans, you would never dig into a cave system that you could just get drowned in.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
You would never dig into a cave system that has no way out so that you can just get sealed in.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
We have plenty of food out here. And that's another example of this exact same phenomenon we're talking about of these old control systems that work perfectly well in the old era.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And now that we have this communication technologies and everyone's getting linked together, it's just the free flow of ideas that just it's like this natural evolution of consciousness and humanity that we just naturally start to break through those. I'm of the mindset that, yeah, we can all change the world. And yeah, we all, our choices do matter a lot.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
But also in some ways, we're all just part of this cosmic system of like the evolution. Like we're all just part of this giant humanity system where we all collectively on balance with all the weird probabilities of all these people. We're going to evolve technology. We were going to industrial revolutionize. We were going to find oil. We were going to discover electronics.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
We were going to invent AI. It was always going to happen. Right. And this is an era that is always what's going to happen. And it will happen one way or the other. Like, we affect how it happens. We could go the Whitney Webb dystopian, like, they rule us with surveillance everywhere.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Or we could go to this great utopia of, like, everyone has enough and we're all, you know, using technology for the better. Well, I think she's right that that's a possibility.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I do respect how he openly will say that, like, yeah, the things I'm inventing could be used for evil. Like, the things I'm inventing are dangerous. And we need to be careful and regulate them properly and create them with intention and careful care. I don't know if he's necessarily doing as much as I would hope he's doing to take care with that. But I'm sure glad it's him and not...
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Jeffrey Epstein, who was deeply interested in all these same technologies. This is a whole other side of him that no one talks about is his interest in technologists and geneticists and all those things. Right.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And a couple of them had some serious accusations, like Marvin Minsky, for example, but I bet a lot of them were not compromised, like Stephen Hawking. Everyone freaked out when Stephen Hawking was on the list, but it makes perfect sense as you realize that he was throwing conventions on that island for scientists, specifically,
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
To bring them all together because that way you get connections, you can get favors. Even if you're not blackmailing them, then they just want to be on your good side because you have all these connections and you can fund all their projects. And you become this integral part of this technological sort of space.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
He also just hooked people up with wives. Like, do you know that he claimed that he introduced Melania to Trump? Yeah. Yeah, that's a crazy one. I suspect... Melania conspiracy time. I suspect that Melania has been whispering in Trump's ear, I think she was trafficked before. Either bad trafficked or just, like, knew Epstein and, like, knew that world a little bit.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
But I suspect that she's been whispering in his ear about what that really is and does and all that things. Because a lot of... She's been kind of, like, acting from the back a lot. But when you really dig into what Melania's been doing, she's very... Very active in anti-trafficking and in protecting traffic victims and girls and stuff.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And as Trump, when he married her and then they have Barron and he's watching his son grow up. So you have this young child and you have this wife telling you about her previous life, probably. And just whispering in your ear that like this could be your legacy. This could be your legacy. This could be your legacy. Right.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Because he used to be friends with those people, even though I don't think he I don't think he was blackmailed because I think that would have come out when the Democrats were going for him. Right. And maybe he was involved in the trafficking a little bit because of the things that he bought and the people that he knew and like Roy Cohn connections. But I don't even know about that.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
But regardless, he knows the game and then he marries Melania and then more and more like he was in charge when Epstein went down. He was the only one that when Epstein got arrested and they were going around asking for dirt, he was like, I'll fully fucking cooperate. Fuck that guy. I'll tell you everything that I know.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And so I suspect that Melania has been instrumental in his sort of shift to being the only guy willing to go after those traffickers.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And I think it's because of Israel. Because I think, I mean, when you really dig into Epstein, his entire network was Israel. It was clearly. Like Ehud Barak was the ex-prime minister and the ex-head of Israeli intelligence. Leslie Wexner was one of the most powerful pro-Israeli philanthropists. The whole organization was Israel. So I'm not saying it was all of Israel.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And it was targeting Americans. It was targeting American officials and the American president. And the CIA does have interest in those targets to elements in the CIA does. Certainly they had help from the CIA and certainly they had help from these other organized crime and intelligence operations. But you don't like. So, for example, Dan Bongino, the new was the deputy director of the FBI.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
He recently had this clip that went all around where he said on camera that he had a source that he trusted deeply. And he's an informed guy. He was at a Fox News interview, and the source told him that Epstein was working for an intelligence agency in the Middle East. And I don't know which one, but someone in the Middle East. And to be fair, we all already knew this.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
We already know who he worked for, at least I think so. But I'm looking at, okay, Dan, so if this giant group of Jewish billionaires is running a sex trafficking operation targeting American politicians and business people and stuff, you think they're working with an Arab or Muslim nation in the Middle East?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
You think that Leslie Wexner is devoting his entire life to philanthropies on behalf of Israel, but then he's gonna work for Saudi Arabia when he's doing this trafficking run?
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Well, he also has to repeat it the same way because he won't get the job if he says Israel. Because Israel has so much control over our government right now. And I'm not saying that all Jews are in on something. Clearly. Internet. Thank you. And Joe is definitely not saying that. Definitely not.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
But Israel's government is every bit as vulnerable to the deep state effect as the American government is. But I would argue that Israel's government is way more vulnerable to it because of the people that founded Israel and the way it was founded. It was founded in a modern time, much more recently. It was a revolutionary founding.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And I can totally sympathize with the Jewish desire to have that state. I get it. But because of the way that happened, the people that founded Israel were a bunch of organized crime figures in America, the Jewish mob, that were helping with money and with arms trafficking to get the guns there because they had to have guns.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And it was the Rothschild banking family sending a whole bunch of money and getting the declaration in the first place. And then the people that were there, the three different organizations, the Irgun, the Lehi Group, and the Haganah, those were the three paramilitary groups that fought to found Israel, and they're like the heroes of Israel.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Which I understand the narrative that they're heroes, but when Israel was officially founded, they officially designated Irgun and Lehi as terrorist organizations because they had been bombing civilians. They'd been bombing British civilians.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
The first official act of terror before they changed the definition was the bombing of the King David Hotel, where these terrorists, these Lehi and Irgun terrorists, a bunch of different groups, the guy who planned that bombing later became the prime minister of Israel. they were bombing civilians.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And, and like, so those, when those are the groups that are fighting to found that nation, even if all the Jews there are wonderful people, the leadership is inherently composed of these people that have been deeply corrupt for all time. And so you get this fertile ground for, for this kind of deep state effect to take power.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And when you start to research the heads of state of Israel over history, you realize that a bunch of them were in those groups doing those terrorist acts and have done a bunch of dark stuff because those were the people that were at the top of that military organization. Those terrorist organizations reformed to form the IDF.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
It opened wide open. Post Gaza. You want to know a funny story, actually? I didn't know shit about it. And I started doing 9-11 stuff. And I was doing a 9-11 video on my YouTube. And I knew about the dancing Israeli conspiracy theory that is very much a real set of documents. And I knew that I'm not allowed to talk about Israel for some reason. And I didn't really know why.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And I realized, like, I better fucking understand this thing before I crater my new channel and career on this. Topic I don't understand. If I'm going to take a stance against Israel at all, I should understand why and how. So I started doing research and I shelved that research and I switched to researching Israel and Palestine and the history there and what's going on.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And I finished the video and it was October 6th. And I was like, I was very worried because it's like, you weren't allowed to talk about it. And I had just made this whole documentary about the history of Israel-Palestine and the propaganda and what it all was. And I published on October 6th on my locals channel.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And I kind of had this like lean back and like, if that's the end of the ride and I get canceled for this shit, So be it. And then literally the next day, and I'm not saying that October 7th was a good thing, but I'm saying that literally the next day, the entire internet was ablaze about Israel and Palestine and everyone was talking about it. And it was the weirdest fucking coincidence.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And suddenly it was like, oh, all right, let's fucking dig this thing open. Because unfortunately it is, I mean, I think fortunately, I think that the state of the Israeli influence that sustained them for so long, that was essential to them surviving this long, I think that it has grown cancerous to the Jewish faith in general because Jeffrey Epstein is the perfect example of this.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Jeffrey Epstein was the world's most prolific and evil sex trafficker that we know of so far, ever. And he very clearly was a Jewish organization of Jewish people working on behalf of Israel and other groups. And so that's a dark stain on Israel and on the Jewish people if you own it. Like if you try to defend that, that's not good. You don't want to have to defend that.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Oh, good catch on that frame. And then back. And it's all gone. Like, his face is just clearly open right there.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
You want to be free of that kind of shit because the Jewish people don't believe in that. That's not what Jews are. Jews are regular people.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And the thing about Israel is that Jewish people have every incentive to need to defend Israel. Right.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Because if I'm a Jew, it's like, of course you have to defend Israel. Like, that's very understandable. It's your people. And you don't want another Holocaust. Like, you don't want another. Like, what do you like? Jews have been in conflict with other people for ages because they are outsiders and because they are so different and because they group up and lots of reasons.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
But you don't like as a Jewish person, you're now faced with this choice. Do I stand by Israel always forever for everything and defend everything they do? Or do I get labeled as a self-hating Jew like Dave Smith gets labeled, like Glenn Greenwald gets labeled? Do I stand against all of my culture and do I get ostracized by my family and by my community? Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yeah. And so it just puts us all in this impossible situation, and it's an impossible conversation that we... And I'm glad for it because it's a maturing process. And I think we need to do it very delicately and very carefully and thoughtfully because Jewish people are people and they're not evil. But there are evil Jewish people and there are evil American people and there are evil Saudi people.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And that's the way it is. Well said. Right? Well said. And so I welcome the conversation. But unfortunately, the thing...
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
for me, fortunately, is when I first researched it, I came across this documentary on Rumble called The Occupation of the American Mind, which is a very well put together documentary that is mostly Jewish people speaking about the history of Israel and about how they realized in the 80s when there was this specific operation where they wound up bombing this refugee camp called Sabra and Shatila, or a refugee camp in a place called Sabra and Shatila.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And there was other bombing, like atrocities. It was like, I guess it was a massacre, it wasn't a bombing. And it was the first time where Western journalists had taken video cameras over there and video feed were coming back of the conflict of what was happening. And American sentiment turned really harshly against Israel in the 80s there.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And they realized we don't need to win just the kinetic war. We need to win the ideological war on the global scale. Because if we don't win that ideological war, the whole world will turn against us and call us a colonial project, which I would argue they kind of are. But that's not the point here. And I don't mean to say I'm necessarily right about my perspective on that.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
But that's when they switched to a propaganda war and they started targeting the United States with propaganda. And they hired the world's top propagandists to tell to teach Israelis and Israeli military officials and government officials how to communicate with the West and how to propagandize the West so that we would remain neutral. In the dark a little bit.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I feel like if there was a conspiracy theorist training course, the JFK assassination would be the perfect dry run training course to build it around because you have all the pieces. You have a complex conspiracy with unknown actors from intelligence agencies and organized crime and maybe multiple governments. And we don't know all that. Then you have a complex cover-up that evolved over time.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
That's why we have this veil and this antisemitism thing. And it's like all the, it's why you're not allowed to talk about it because it evolved over time. And they eventually Howard, they hired this guy that I think is called Howard Luntz. Um, and Luntz worked with the Israel project.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
There's a report online that came out in 2009, I think called the Israel, the Israel language dictionary, the Israel American language dictionary. Um, And it's basically a word for word. This is how you discuss the rockets raining down. This is how you discuss the settlements. This is how you discuss the occupation and the palace and all these things.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And they use examples of words that work and words that don't work. And when you read it, you realize like, holy shit, that's exactly what politicians have been saying on TV my entire life. And they use Obama as one example of really good words that work.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
You should talk like Obama because he's good at sort of empathizing with the other side and making us understand that, like, we're here for peace and they're the terrorists. And I say that to mean that we live inside this propagandized space because it's been essential to them for so long to protect that image in order to continue the deep state element of what they're doing.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
when I would argue that we would all be much better off if Bibi was fucking not there, and we had a more sane person in charge of Israel that was actually there for peace and not there for whatever the fuck Bibi is doing, and we could start to heal this thing and talk about it.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yeah, I suspect I'm hoping I'm not blowing the lid on Trump's idea here. I kind of suspect that Trump is kind of in on a coup against Netanyahu right now. This is just my theory based upon the way he talked about like occupying Gaza and the way he's friends with Jared Kushner and the way he's friends with the Adelson's.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I suspect that these powerful Jews like the Adelson type people are starting to realize that Netanyahu is is kind of sinking this ship. And he's kind of fucked it all up and it's not going well for Israel in the public conversation. Like I can ratio just about anyone I want on Twitter over the Israel thing because the public sentiment is just shifting.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And it's not healthy for anyone, for Jewish people or anyone else. And I'd suspect that the powerful Jewish people are starting to see that and are starting to scheme on how do we fucking get Netanyahu out of there and put someone in that can actually move us towards some sort of peace.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
because without a genuine desire for like Netanyahu is on fucking camera saying that they have propped up Hamas in the Gaza Strip because they don't want a real government in the Gaza Strip because it's far better for them to run this occupation and to eventually take the land if Hamas is I mean I'm that's not an exact quote everyone should look that up for themselves but not just propped up but funded exactly yeah and intentionally like kept there just when you hear that you're like well what's the logic for funding Hamas
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Well, it's the exact same logic as us funding the Taliban. Yeah. It's the exact same logic.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yeah, 100%. Yeah. And it happens over and over and over again. We're just sending money willy-nilly to all these like Ukraine, Israel, Taliban, you name it. And those are just a small spatter. We've done it across the whole world, Indonesia, Central and South America.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Forever. And it's this playbook of the deep state is a funny term. I think it's kind of time to retire it because it's not the deep state. It's like this corporate, like transnational corporate criminal organization space where transnational corporations like the banks, like JP Morgan, Jamie Dimon, They were banking Jeffrey Epstein. They don't answer to us. They're not American.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
You have researchers. You have bad information being fed in from outside organizations. You have conspiracy theorists that are taking it in directions that are like corroborable. It's got all the things that you need to both learn how to dig into and learn how to watch out for. It's a lot of fun.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
They don't give a shit about America. Like, they give a shit about money and power. And they're legally required to because they're a public corporation. That's a whole BlackRock thing we could go down. It's crazy. And so, like, when you look at it as people who have this globalist, and actually that's why people shit on Alex Jones for saying globalists.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Like, all the fucking anti-Jew people are like, Just say the Jews. And it's like, no, dude, like there's way more going on here. And the, and the tie that binds all of them together, the Klaus Schwab's of this world, the, the Jeff Bezos is the, and I don't know, maybe Jeff's a good guy. I don't know.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
But like the people that don't think in terms of these are my people and I love them, but I'd rather, I'm like a piece of this global community of billionaires that were like, our job is just to make money and fucking control the world. Like Bill Gates is a great example.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
They live outside of our world and they do not give a shit if COVID kills 10,000 people or 100,000 people or 10 million people, whatever. And I'm generalizing because obviously they are individuals and they each have their own perspective on what's going on. But it feels to me from researching, there's enough of them that are evil. That they're doing some horrible things.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
And the ones that are a little less evil, maybe they know what they're in on. Maybe they only know some of it. Because you don't have to disclose everything. And these kinds of plans, like, for example, in a CIA plot to overthrow the government of Guatemala, you're not telling everyone the whole plan. They didn't tell Smedley Butler. No, they didn't tell him shit.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
They told him that like this they told him that they were gonna overthrow a communist that was already taking over the what like and I think they probably told him that he was a Jewish communist because they think they were riding on like FDR's second-in-command was Henry Morgenthau jr And he was deeply aligned with the Jewish like the rich Jewish kind of powers in the world at that day and there was a lot of anti-jewish sentiment back then and so I suspect that they told Smedley Butler that like I
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2284 - Ian Carroll
This guy's a fucking Jewish plant, and he's part of the Rothschild thing, and he's a communist, we need to overthrow him. And Smedley didn't buy it. Smedley collected fucking research on them, and he went to FDR, and he exposed the whole plot. But the problem was that FDR couldn't do anything, because these people, titans of industry, like the Bushes of the world, the Fords, the...
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
I don't even know all their names at this point. It's been a while since I did that dig. Um, he couldn't do anything. And so nothing happened. He couldn't charge them because they just said, you just got out of the great depression. We will fuck your economy up. Done. Done. And there's so much power. Let's bring this to a fucking halt.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Let's real quickly, though. Be clear. Joe does not agree with everything that I just said on this podcast.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yeah, Joe doesn't know shit, okay? I am so upset that I even platformed you. This is Ian Carroll speaking. You're outrageous. And also, I'm perfectly willing to have a conversation about this. I don't know that I'm right about everything. I just know the sources I've read and where I've read them, and I try my best to figure out where they are.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
Yeah. Find me on X Ian Carroll Show, and I have a new website that just launched, which is CancelIanCarroll.com. So cancel me, bitches. Perfect. Come at me. Bye, everybody. Bye.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2284 - Ian Carroll
Have you guys ever heard the theory that frames were taken out of the Zapruder film to make it look like the car never slowed down? That's crazy. That's bizarre. The thing is, I don't know how to trust things like AI reconstructions of videos.
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#2284 - Ian Carroll
That is so crazy. Oh, my God. That's so crazy. The theory about the driver shooting him, that's the one I've never bought, honestly. People always say the driver turned around and shot him.