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Super Wild Card Weekend, Fastest 2 Minutes, Commanders Huge Win, Bills And Ravens Roll And Who's Back Of The Week

Mon, 13 Jan 2025

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Super Wild Card Weekend and we start with Fastest 2 Minutes. (00:00:00-00:07:15) We then Recap every game from the weekend Texans 32, Chargers 12 (00:07:15-00:35:03) Ravens 28, Steelers 14 (00:35:03-00:53:17) Bills 31, Broncos 7 (00:53:17-01:15:21) Eagles 22, Packers 10 (01:15:21-01:34:32) Commanders 23, Bucs 20 (01:34:32-02:01:20) We then talk MNF (02:01:20-02:07:00), Texas vs Ohio State (02:07:00-02:16:31) and finish with who's back of the week (02:16:31-02:31:58).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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00:00 - 00:25 Big Cat

Hey, Pardon My Take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's Pardon My Take Super Wildcard Weekend Recap... We're going to recap all five games. We had four duds and then an absolute thriller in Sunday Night Football. And PFT's commanders are marching on.

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00:25 - 00:44 Big Cat

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02:22 - 02:45 Big Cat

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02:53 - 02:57 Guest

They're not going to get them. Some spread.

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02:59 - 03:20 Big Cat

We start in Houston where QB Justin Man Herbert showed no heart and had way more oohs than ahs in this one. It's early January, so the Stroud boys stood back and stood by until CJ found Lord and Xavier Hutchinson for a huge gain off a fumbled snap. And just like that, the Texans were storming the defense.

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03:21 - 03:39 Big Cat

The game broke open when Herbert was picked off by safety Eric Curry, who made Samosa his playing time and didn't stop until he was Indian end zone and proved the Chargers are a non-factor come playoff time. Texans, 32. Chargers and the Stinky Cloud, 12.

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03:42 - 04:06 Guest

We head down to Baltimore, Maryland, where the new-look Ravens defense and Dean Black-Eyed Peas said, Let's get Lamarded. Let's get Lamarded in here. Hey, hey. As he connected with Rashad of Love with Tequila Bateman, and he was very easy to score with. Brussels Sprouts Wilson had another performance that was very hard to digest, and all the kids at home hated it.

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04:07 - 04:23 Guest

But George W. Bush Pickens is bagged at it again. But the Baltimore offense was committing war crimes with a ground invasion as Derrick Henry Kissinger carpet-bombed the Steelers for another Pittsburgh playoff louse. Ravens 28, the Steelers 14. On to Sunday night.

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04:25 - 04:49 Big Cat

western new york where the broncos had bills saying troy vey as franklin caught the first score of the game to put denver up early but they forgot about 17 as quarterback josh ellen went against the one against d that was generous to him telling his team let's be in the game and made the broncos look like the interns the way he abused them

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04:50 - 05:15 Big Cat

The game broke open when the offense dropped their Johnson on the table and challenged the Broncos to tie that. Ultimately, the Broncos shouldn't hold their heads down as they'll be doing bow tricks on it for the quarterback of the future. The Bills 31, Broncos 7, and no one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills. We head over to Philadelphia where Max was on the scene.

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05:17 - 05:44 Philadelphia Correspondent

We head to Philadelphia where Wake Up Elliot continues to sleep on the season as he missed another extra point and almost cost the Birds another game. Thankfully, King Bond took over the game when Jordan Love was seeing smoke, so he's about to choke. Then we took it for the O. Big play Ray LaMontagne had Philly fans saying, You are the best thing. You're the best thing that ever happened to me.

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05:44 - 05:58 Philadelphia Correspondent

As he continued the pick parade with one of the best plays of the weekend. Nolan Smith and Weston shot off the line like a bullet all game long as he massacred the Packers on his way to two sacks, including one late this year in the game. Eagles 22, Packers 10.

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06:00 - 06:13 Guest

We go down to Tampa, Florida, where backwards hat Dan Quingeman Button is looking younger the older he gets. Meanwhile, Todd Bowles was mixing up his left and his right like Hank, trying to understand the political spectrum.

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06:13 - 06:33 Guest

And Mike, seven minutes in heavens, took Marshawn Latahore into the closet and made out like a bandit, cooking the former Saints quarterback in the first half up and down the field in an early score. but Jaden Danelli was not going to be denied with a band-aid on his face covering a gash so deep Mike Tirico tried to grab it a few cocktails.

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06:34 - 06:58 Guest

Mi amigo, hola, me da Zaccheaus, hold in some nice recepciones, reminding the audience that it is mechs I can, not mechs I cannot. Baker and the Bucs responded with a field goal drive of their own, leading to insane in the membrane. Gonzalez pulling his hair out as he jogged onto the field, and the goalpost said, Left hand up. Right as the ball bounced off the right, pull it in.

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06:59 - 07:00 Guest

As the Commanders win 23-20. What?

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07:04 - 07:18 Big Cat

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07:18 - 08:03 Big Cat

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08:03 - 08:20 Big Cat

We had some duds, and then we had a thriller on Sunday night, and PFT's commanders. So we're going to go in chronological order all the way back to Saturday, which is always hard because your brain's like, oh, shit. The Texans and Chargers did happen. So we have Texans 32, Chargers 12.

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08:23 - 08:46 Big Cat

I'd like to put my hand up real quick and say that I want to apologize to the Houston Texans because I was down on them, and I think rightfully so at points in the season. And their offense, rightfully so. That Texans defense, holy shit, did they bring it on Saturday. They were so goddamn good. And not only were they so good, I thought that game –

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08:47 - 09:08 Big Cat

was decided by the fact that the chargers came out like basically a perfect start chargers go down the field kick a field goal get the fumble on the very next play and if the texans defense doesn't play their balls off to start the game if they give up a touchdown on the first drive if they give up a touchdown after the fumble uh that game could look totally different but

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09:09 - 09:22 Big Cat

But essentially, the Texans' defense played so well early that they let C.J. Stroud and that offense find a rhythm to a point where they were able to win that game. So the Texans' defense was just so good.

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09:22 - 09:37 PFT Commenter

They were good. All their cornerbacks were good, especially Derek Stingley. Oh, yeah. Stingley was a problem. Will Anderson was very, very good, too. Yep. We have slept on the Texans' defense. Yeah, the offense still kind of stinks. I think it's been under the assumption that they're not a great team.

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09:37 - 09:49 PFT Commenter

Overall, when we've been talking about them, we haven't been talking about them like they're a very good team because they haven't blown out bad teams. They've played in close games all year long. They haven't really shown us flashes on offense, but their defense has been good.

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09:49 - 09:55 PFT Commenter

And their defense was very good against the Chargers, who they were the team that was supposed to have the suffocating defense going into it.

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09:55 - 10:15 PFT Commenter

And then if you go up, if you dominate the first part of the game and you go up 6-0 on two field goals, that, when we talked about, like, if you go up, if you kick a field goal to go up six points in a game, it feels like the other team always comes down and scores again. It felt like you were losing the game, having only gotten six points out of those two incredible drives.

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10:15 - 10:32 Big Cat

Yeah, we were watching it being like, if you're a Chargers fan, you have to feel very uneasy right now because you have had every lucky bounce to start this game and everything's gone your way and you're only up six nothing. And then the game completely switched on the fumbled snap that CJ Stroud had.

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10:33 - 10:57 PFT Commenter

scrambles out of the pocket makes an incredible play hits a bomb down the field like 34 yards that was like that play that ben johnson tried to get jerry goff to run yeah he said can you intentionally fumble it because it throws the whole defense off they they get off what their normal schedule is and their routine is right and then it can open stuff up this was not intentional this is a mistake but it opened everything up downfield and then all of a sudden yeah like they're saying it's the whole offense looked different

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10:57 - 11:18 Big Cat

Right, and that was the end of the half. If that ends up being a fumble or like C.J. Stroud falls on the ball, the Chargers get the ball back. They can maybe drive. They're up 6-0. They go into halftime. Instead, something happened there where it woke up the Texans' offense because then they get a touchdown. Then they force a three and out and they get another three points.

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11:18 - 11:41 Big Cat

So now it's 10-6 at halftime in a half where you're like everything that could have gone wrong for the Texans went wrong and the Chargers are somehow down. And then the second half was just an absolute like that was I've retired Chargering because of Jim Harbaugh and the culture he's built. That was Chargering. Was it Chargering? I mean, the pick six, everything just fell apart all at once.

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11:41 - 11:50 PFT Commenter

I feel like Chargering would be a little bit closer at the end. Yeah, I don't know. I think the Chargers ran into an acute case of building their entire offense out of Vlad Mikhalki.

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11:50 - 12:13 Big Cat

Yeah, so about that. We have to have a Justin Herbert conversation, but Ladd-McConkie was incredible and the rest of the Chargers offense was not. Ladd-McConkie had 197 yards. The other wide receivers had 45 and tight ends. Ladd-McConkie had one touchdown. When Justin Herbert was throwing to Ladd-McConkie, he had one touchdown, one interception.

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12:14 - 12:42 Big Cat

When he was throwing to anyone else, he had zero touchdowns, three interceptions. He was 60% completion percentage to Ladd. 29 to everyone else 13 yards per uh per pass to lad 2.6 to everyone else and lad had eight first downs and everyone else had one it was one one that's passing they just couldn't do anything that wasn't lad mcconkey and honestly like look i mean we should talk justin herbert

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12:43 - 12:52 Big Cat

If that Ladd-McConkie touchdown doesn't happen, that stat line is one of the all-time worst stats. It was already a bad stat line, but it was like that at least gave him 80 yards and a touchdown.

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12:52 - 12:58 PFT Commenter

And was it the pick six that bounced off Will Disley? That one wasn't on Justin Herbert, but the other ones were.

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12:58 - 13:17 Big Cat

So he had four interceptions. One was not his. I think the worst one by far was the first one because it was 6-0, first half, C.J. Stroud throws an interception, and the very next play, Justin Herbert tries to throw across his body, across the field. Yeah.

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13:17 - 13:40 Big Cat

and like you just can't i don't know what he was doing there and then he had the one where he overthrew lad and then i can't remember i can't remember what the last but he he was bad he was really bad and his offensive line didn't help him but like justin herbert has been in the playoffs twice now he is uh uh he was 14 for 32 with four interceptions on saturday the other game he's in the playoffs they blew a 27 nothing lead

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13:42 - 13:46 Big Cat

It's not good. Yeah. I still would take them, but it's not good.

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13:46 - 14:05 PFT Commenter

Big Cat, this stat, is it a bad stat? Is it a good stat? Or is a bad stat that actually is kind of good if you read it the wrong way? Okay. Justin Herbert is now the only player in NFL history to throw more interceptions in a playoff game than he had interceptions during the entire regular season.

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14:06 - 14:11 Big Cat

Okay. I think that is officially a... Bad good stat?

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14:11 - 14:16 PFT Commenter

I think it's a bad stat that's good if you're a loser.

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14:16 - 14:35 Big Cat

Yeah. It's a bad stat right now. Actually, it'll be a bad stat. When you look back at the season, if you're like, remember that season you only threw three interceptions? Yeah. You just hope that the person you're talking to isn't like, but what about the playoff? You only threw four. Then what? So they must have won the Super Bowl, right? Yeah.

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14:36 - 14:43 Big Cat

Yeah, you just hope that the person doesn't have that locked and loaded because you can get away with being like, Justin Herbert actually only threw three interceptions in a season.

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14:43 - 15:03 PFT Commenter

Here's a take. Three interceptions is not enough interceptions. Mm-hmm. I agree. That's not enough interceptions. You've got to throw a few. You have to have more interceptions than that. But, yeah, it shines a light on how well he played and how the Chargers formula during the regular season was play mistake-free football, play tough defense, and then somehow you win the game. Right.

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15:03 - 15:12 PFT Commenter

And in this game, it didn't work out, and he did not play mistake-free football by a long shot. He was, to be fair to Justin Herbert, they hit the fuck out of him a lot.

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15:12 - 15:32 Big Cat

They hit the fuck out of him, and Greg Roman, I think he only called 16 runs, which, again, that goes back to the Texans' defense. Texans' defense up front, and Singletary, Kamari Lassiter, they all were balling, but he had no time. They were suffocating. As bad as Justin, I know that the conversation wants to be about Justin Herbert because that's what we do. We talk about quarterbacks.

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15:33 - 15:44 Big Cat

I don't think you could talk about Justin Herbert without first saying, like, hey, dude, credit to the Texans defense because that was a lot of them. And, like, Justin Herbert played bad, but it was also the Texans defense playing out of this world good.

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15:45 - 16:02 PFT Commenter

I think people are frustrated with Justin Herbert because this gets really into, like, the sports media ecosystem. Correct. I'm going to be the Justin Herbert. I'm going to be the say something bad about Justin Herbert guy. Okay. You guys talk about him like he's won three Super Bowls. He hasn't won a playoff game.

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16:03 - 16:18 PFT Commenter

But you guys, we're supposed to think Justin Herbert is the second coming of Jesus Christ and Tom Brady. Yeah. But your golden boy hasn't won a playoff game. He just threw four interceptions. He sucks. He sucks. He played a very bad game. At some point, the expectations, if he is like your entire offense...

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16:19 - 16:28 PFT Commenter

And if he's supposed to be a great quarterback that's going to be worthy of a huge extension, you would like for him to play way, way better in the playoffs.

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16:28 - 16:29 Big Cat

I think he already got his extension.

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16:29 - 16:33 PFT Commenter

Yeah, but to be worthy of that, to be worthy of that money and all the cap that's going to be tied up in him.

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16:34 - 16:53 Big Cat

I'll say this right now, and this isn't me defending Justin Herbert because he was terrible on Saturday. I will buy all the Justin Herbert stock. Right now is a great time to buy. I will buy all of it. If you think that he is just a terrible quarterback, that's fine. I still think he's pretty good. I would like to see him with maybe some more weapons other than just Ladd-McConkie.

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16:53 - 17:14 Big Cat

This also is like a perspective game where... the chargers were not supposed to probably be in the playoffs this year, given the roster and like the overturn and the rebuild and everything. So it's like, it's hard in the moment to say you like you, it feels like you're defending Justin Herbert where I'm not trying to defend him. I'm more like they, they overachieved this year. They overachieved.

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17:14 - 17:30 Big Cat

They probably weren't going to be a playoff team if you looked at it going into the season, and they overachieved to get to this point. And they overachieved so much that everyone had them as a favorite, and I thought they were going to win this game. So it's like I bet on them to win the Super Bowl. I was drinking the Kool-Aid.

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17:30 - 17:34 Big Cat

So it's almost like they're a little bit of a victim of their own success in that respect.

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17:34 - 17:49 PFT Commenter

Here's how Justin Herbert works for me. When I hear somebody saying this guy, when I hear somebody like sucking his dick, I'm like, let's pump the brakes. He hasn't really done anything. Right. When I hear somebody like sharpening their knife and being like, this fucking guy's a bum. I'm like, actually, he's really good.

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17:49 - 17:54 Big Cat

Yeah. It's basically a microcosm for the world right now.

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17:54 - 17:54 PFT Commenter

Yeah.

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17:54 - 18:08 Big Cat

Like, if you live on an extreme where you're like, Justin Herbert's actually the best quarterback in the NFL, it's like, dude, no. And then if you say that you'd rather have anyone else besides Justin Herbert, you're like, all right, you're an idiot because Justin Herbert's good. It's everything in the world right now.

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18:08 - 18:09 PFT Commenter

He's very good.

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18:09 - 18:09 Big Cat

Yeah.

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18:09 - 18:21 PFT Commenter

I wouldn't say great just yet. And with C.J. Stroud, maybe his rookie season kind of fast-forward through everything because usually when you get a rookie quarterback who's good – He goes into like a game manager phase.

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18:22 - 18:22 Guest

Yeah.

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18:22 - 18:37 PFT Commenter

And he just doesn't turn the ball. Just take care of the ball. You don't have to make these incredible throws downfield. Just be safe and let's move the ball on offense. Rely on our defense. But we didn't get that his rookie year. It was like CJ is going to go out there and he's going to be special and they're going to figure out a way to win.

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18:37 - 18:48 PFT Commenter

And now watching how they played against the Chargers, that is a formula for these Texans. Yeah. Is to play great defense and then just be very, very almost conservative on offense.

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18:49 - 19:11 Big Cat

Yeah, because, I mean, he started the game bad, and you can't turn the ball over, and he had that one interception early. But, again, it was the Texans' defense allowing C.J. Stroud to find his rhythm, where he eventually did find his rhythm. And he actually did a really good job running the ball, too. Yeah. There was a few times where he made some big plays with his feet. And, yeah, I—Texans—

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19:12 - 19:28 Big Cat

I don't want to do – see, this is what we always do, though, with Wild Card Weekend is I always sell myself on the team I just watched win a playoff game because I'm like, well, dude, they just won a playoff game. That's really fucking good. That's hard to do. But they're also – and you're like, the Chiefs haven't done anything in these playoffs. That's true.

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19:28 - 19:29 PFT Commenter

They haven't scored a point.

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19:29 - 19:31 Big Cat

I'm like, damn, that looks good. The Texans next week.

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19:32 - 19:42 PFT Commenter

No interceptions. They're proven. Yeah, no points. So if you were to have the Texans playing against the Bills or the Ravens, what would your thought be about that game?

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19:42 - 19:44 Big Cat

Yeah, I'd be like, they get killed.

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19:44 - 19:55 PFT Commenter

Yeah. Remember, the Chiefs are just as good, if not better. Probably better. They are better. Statistically, they're better than the Bills or the Ravens. So just remember that.

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19:55 - 20:13 Big Cat

I'm happy that we only have one bye now, because this used to be my biggest problem when we had two byes, and I would do that for two games. I'd be like, well, this team just won a playoff game. But I really did walk away from this game being like, I apologize for sleeping on how good this Texans defense is.

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20:13 - 20:37 Big Cat

And if CJ Stroud, again, can have time to get in a rhythm in the game and not have to do it all himself, because that game could have been 14-0 in a fucking blink of an eye if that Texans defense doesn't stand up. And it could have been 14-0 with the Chargers having the ball off a C.J. Stroud pick. And it would have been like, well, there's just no chance they're coming back.

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20:37 - 20:58 Big Cat

They're in obvious passing. Instead, they flipped it. And then Joe Mixon, who they brought in for these type of situations, was incredible in the second. He had 91 yards in the second half. He was the closer. They basically – like that end of the game when – The Texans, oh, it was the blocked extra point where Dicker got absolutely smoked.

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20:58 - 21:11 Big Cat

But that was a moment where you're like, okay, when they're lining up for that extra point, it could have been a 10-point game in the fourth quarter. And they blocked the extra point. They get that two-point. But then the Texans are like, no, we'll just run Joe Mixon down your throat, and you won't get the ball back.

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21:11 - 21:29 PFT Commenter

Yeah, that's the game manager formula. Strong running game, good defense, don't make a mistake. The blocked extra point that was returned, you have to, at some point, the special teams coach needs to go over that scenario with the kicker, right? Like if the kick is blocked behind the line of scrimmage and it comes to you, you didn't just throw a forward pass.

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21:30 - 21:36 PFT Commenter

You're not like Peyton Manning who's disgusted and just does the most unathletic bat down of all time. You've got to catch that thing.

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21:37 - 21:54 Big Cat

Well, it was doubly bad for Dicker because... I think part of him batting it down was like, I don't want to get jacked up. Yeah. And he batted it down and still got jacked up. Yeah, he took a shot to the chin. Just catch it and just get jacked up. Right in the chin. What were you going to say, Hank? The Nickelodeon broadcast.

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21:54 - 21:54 Guest

Oh, yeah.

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21:54 - 22:14 Big Cat

I was going to get to that. I wrote that. I have a fun stat for Texans fans. Since 2002, when the Texans were founded as a franchise, they have more playoff wins than the Dallas Cowboys. That is very fun. They have six, and the Dallas Cowboys have four. That's a very fun stat. That's got to really piss off Jerry Jones.

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22:14 - 22:18 PFT Commenter

The Texans are six and two in the Houston Texans time slot.

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22:18 - 22:30 Big Cat

Yeah, I was wrong about that. People were mad at me. What do you mean? I said that they always lose. They always lose. No, they do. And they're actually in the time slot again next week. They are. Against the Chiefs. As is tradition. Also, Joe Mixon. One last thing about Joe Mixon.

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22:30 - 22:49 Big Cat

Yeah, he was smoking on that Rex Ryan pack after the game in the locker room, which is very funny because I guess Rex Ryan said that it was basically a buy for the Chargers. Yeah. So he was having fun with that. Rex Ryan. He's giving bulletin board material to teams. He's not a coach. Can I just say that Rex Ryan, like, just chill out, dude.

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22:49 - 23:09 Big Cat

The way he's, like, everything he's doing now is coming across as desperate. Like, memes, do you not agree? On countdown this morning, I tuned in for a minute, and they were talking about the Vrabel hire, and he's like, hopefully I get a chance to kick his ass twice a year. Like, he's just begging for the job.

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23:10 - 23:13 Guest

Yeah. And I think there's like zero percent chance.

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23:13 - 23:23 PFT Commenter

Yeah. So it's even more pathetic. This is like crazy. This is crazy. Rex girlfriend. Yeah. He's being very, very emotional. And it's like, OK, Rex, you're coming on a little bit too strong, buddy. Yeah.

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23:23 - 23:27 Big Cat

Just chill out. Just just calm down a little bit. Let the process happen.

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23:27 - 23:30 Guest

You need to go coach high school or something.

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23:30 - 23:52 Big Cat

Well, it's a very funny thought to have where I don't know what he's thinking. Like, hey, if I say these things on Countdown, maybe Brick Johnson is watching. And he's like, oh, shit, we didn't think about Rex Ryan. He might actually be thinking, if I go viral enough, Brick will see this. Yeah, like if enough people tweet about Rex Ryan being the Jets head coach. Maybe. And he might not be wrong.

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23:53 - 24:02 Big Cat

I guess that, I mean, Providence Twitter did tweet enough about Ed Cooley leaving Georgetown that he had to answer questions about it, so it could happen. But yeah, the Nickelodeon broadcast.

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24:02 - 24:14 Guest

Before that, also, I was going to say Joe Mixon said this team reminds him of the Bengals team a few years ago. I think it was same record, same spot, young quarterback, beat the Chiefs.

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24:14 - 24:22 Big Cat

Interesting. Yeah. Okay. I think the Texans would be live in the game. I still think the Chiefs are a more well-balanced team.

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24:23 - 24:23 PFT Commenter

I would agree with that.

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24:23 - 24:37 Big Cat

And also, you're giving Andy Reid, I mean, what, 25 days to prepare? Yep. I guess it's only a week to prepare. He did some scouting on both teams, but I'm sure they'll have a way to figure out this Texans defense.

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24:37 - 25:01 PFT Commenter

now does this continue the stat that we brought up earlier this season that every team that has played both the Harbaugh brothers went one and one against the Harbaugh brothers because they got Texans did yeah they got beat by the by the Ravens yeah and then one against the Chargers I think that's every every coach that has played against each Harbaugh brother yeah although I guess technically uh Antonio Pierce went one and two against the Harbaugh brothers

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25:03 - 25:23 Big Cat

That's true. Because he lost to both Jim. But that still counts. Yeah. They got a win and a loss. One and one minimum. Yeah, one and one minimum. I like that. Yeah. Yeah, the Nickelodeon broadcast. We had no idea that we were going to make it. We made it. Big catfish and PF manatee. Mm-hmm. It was literally the Leo meme.

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25:23 - 25:30 Big Cat

We were sitting in the gambling cave, and we had the Nickelodeon broadcast up, and we were just like, wait, what the fuck?

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25:30 - 25:48 PFT Commenter

That's us. It happens from time to time when they're doing the Game Time commercial, where I'll hear my voice from the other side of the room and be like, what was that? But this one, we had absolutely no idea it was going to happen. We look up at it, and then next up is LeBron James and Kevin, what was it?

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25:48 - 25:49 Kev Finhart

Kev Finhart.

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25:49 - 25:53 PFT Commenter

Kev Finhart, yeah. We were bigger than them. And then whoever Ice Spice was.

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25:55 - 26:18 Big Cat

She was next. That was pretty cool. Yeah. I mean, I had my kids watch it. They didn't fully understand it, but they were like, that's kind of cool. I was like, that's me. They're like, well, that's a fish. I'm like, well, no, but that's me. But yeah. Thank you, Nickelodeon. And then they used the SpongeBob quote from our interview with Jim Harbaugh in 2018. Yeah. As like, here's some. Yeah.

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26:18 - 26:23 Big Cat

Wait, can you play it? I think it was Adam Schefter's daughter introduced us. Yep.

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26:25 - 26:48 Minor Voiceover

some pretty big celebrities check it out sports podcasters big catfish and pf man it's here in the house lebron james is back and this time he brought his friend keth finn hart and ice fish spice is here ice fish spice if they introduces his podcasters shouldn't we have been whales i look tired

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26:49 - 26:50 PFT Commenter

As big catfish.

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26:50 - 26:52 Big Cat

They gave you butthole eyes.

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26:52 - 26:58 Kev Finhart

Yeah, I'm not looking good. It was also funny that they made PFT a manatee, but also still way smaller.

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26:58 - 26:59 PFT Commenter

Also smaller, yeah.

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26:59 - 27:11 Big Cat

Yeah, that was tough. And then we also had our guy Jim Harbaugh get captured by the Stinky Cloud, and then that was 32-6 was the score after Jim Harbaugh got captured by the Stinky Cloud.

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27:11 - 27:14 PFT Commenter

Is that a real stat? That's a real stat. Is he still in the cloud?

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27:15 - 27:18 Big Cat

He might be. It's a dirty bubble. Oh, Dirty Bubble. Sorry, sorry.

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27:18 - 27:20 Kev Finhart

What's the Dirty Bubble? The SpongeBob fans will get mad at you.

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27:20 - 27:30 Big Cat

Yeah, well, Stinky Cloud's the acting that got screwed up in my head. Dirty Bubble. The Dirty Bubble captured Jim Harbaugh. What is the Dirty Bubble? Does anyone have an explanation?

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27:32 - 27:34 Guest

He's just a bubble that's dirty, and he's evil.

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27:34 - 27:41 PFT Commenter

Okay, got it. Okay, so it's pretty literal. That seems like it's not fair that they captured him in that.

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27:42 - 27:42 Big Cat

I agree.

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27:42 - 27:44 PFT Commenter

You're only taking out one coach?

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27:44 - 28:00 Big Cat

I said it when it came up on the screen. It showed him with dirty shit all over him. That's fucked up. Yeah. You can't do that to one coach. Did Harbaugh win the MVP? MVP? No, they gave it to the winning team. We did stuff the ballot.

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28:00 - 28:16 PFT Commenter

So this year they had a little disclaimer on the votes for MVP saying for entertainment purposes only. Look at that. As opposed to other years where it's definitely not supposed to be entertaining. But they made it seem like they would just give it to whoever they wanted. I would like to think that if the Chargers won, Harbaugh would have gotten the MVP.

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28:16 - 28:35 Big Cat

I would agree. I think we did enough voting. But yeah, the dirty bubble, that's... We're going to have to bring that up to him next time. Yeah. Because he'll be like, wait, seriously? I don't like that. He'll be upset about it. Yeah, look at that. The Dirty Bubble captured him. SpongeBob rigged. During a playoff game. I do love the Nickelodeon broadcast, though.

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28:35 - 28:38 PFT Commenter

It was cool having it up there. They really went all out with the slime this year.

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28:39 - 28:48 Big Cat

Do you guys have any problem with DJ Shark tweeting a picture of him being like, now that long three and a half months back to weed? No.

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28:49 - 28:50 PFT Commenter

Oh, no, I didn't see that.

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28:50 - 28:59 Big Cat

Yeah. He was just holding a dog walker, a little tiny joint. He was, like, nice. I have a problem with it.

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29:00 - 29:19 PFT Commenter

I don't think it's cool. What do you mean? If you're really a big fan of weed, you probably wouldn't post a picture of that. He's probably just being like, hey, guys, I smoke weed. Yeah. Like trying to make it seem like he's a cool guy who smokes. But maybe real real leaf heads know that if you really felt that way, you wouldn't need to post about it. You would just go spark up a dude.

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29:19 - 29:33 Big Cat

So he might be being like, so he captured it. Shout out my word. I can't say, but been along three and a half months. So maybe he's just letting everyone know, like, you can smoke me out again.

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29:34 - 29:37 PFT Commenter

Yeah. Like, I'm back. Yeah, like, I'm free to join the circle.

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29:37 - 29:38 Big Cat

Yeah.

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29:38 - 29:53 PFT Commenter

I got no problem with it. No, like, from a standpoint of admitting that you smoke weed, I would never do such a thing because I'm not a drug guy. But for him, no problem with being like, I can't wait to smoke weed again. I just question posting it on social media. Like, why?

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29:53 - 30:12 Big Cat

He is kind of admitting, too, that he hadn't been smoking for three and a half months, so that's kind of cool. There you go. Good for him. Good job. Good job, DJ Shark. So... I mean, the Chargers season overall, success, even though... By the way, what do we think Justin Herbert's pregame speech was? It must have been terrible, right? No cameras. We'll never know.

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30:12 - 30:31 Big Cat

Ben Herbert, who is by far the best person to keep cameras away. The report was that Justin Herbert has had his pregame speech taped the last three weeks or something, and then this week for the playoff game, he had Ben Herbert make sure there were no cameras near him. That had to be a stinky, stinky...

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30:32 - 30:40 PFT Commenter

Maybe it was the dirty cloud. It was a dirty cloud just came out of his mouth. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what he said to him. I like the move, though, just being like, no cameras, please.

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30:48 - 31:03 Big Cat

They called it the if draft because it's like if Tua could stay healthy, if Justin Herbert had weapons, and if the Bengals could make it into the playoffs. Yeah. Yeah. So it's all the if guys. Just hypotheticals everywhere.

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31:04 - 31:09 PFT Commenter

Yeah, I can see that. I still think that the Chargers, they're on the upswing. Yeah, they were on the downswing last year.

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31:10 - 31:29 Big Cat

We're going to get to the Broncos, but there were certain teams going into this. I think the thing that hurts more for the Chargers, they were favored in this game. And I thought they were going to win. I think a lot of people thought they were going to win. So that hurts a little bit more that you went into a game that you thought was winnable and you just completely fell on your face.

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31:29 - 31:34 Big Cat

But you need some weapons. Quentin Johnson had zero catches, right? He'll get some weapons. I don't think he had a catch.

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31:34 - 31:45 PFT Commenter

Yeah. And no, Josh Palmer was a big one for him. Yeah. Because he does stretch the field a little bit. They also didn't count on Arian Foster. Yeah. Arian with a great – I hope they taped his pregame speech.

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31:46 - 31:47 Big Cat

Was scared of the cannons.

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31:47 - 31:47 PFT Commenter

Yeah.

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31:47 - 31:48 Big Cat

Did you see that clip?

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31:48 - 31:48 PFT Commenter

Yeah, I saw that.

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31:48 - 31:57 Big Cat

It was very funny. I saw that. Those cannons are fucking, like, they will scare you. I don't know if it was like the, was it just the air cannons before?

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31:57 - 32:00 PFT Commenter

Yeah. I think it's just gunpowder.

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32:00 - 32:01 Big Cat

Yeah.

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32:01 - 32:05 PFT Commenter

If you can handle big T on a weekly basis, you should be able to handle a cannon. I'd agree.

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32:05 - 32:12 Big Cat

I'd agree. So do we think that the Texans, you think the Texans really have a chance? I do. You love the Texans.

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32:12 - 32:13 Guest

Yeah, I'm going to take a money line.

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32:14 - 32:18 Big Cat

But just don't trick yourself into they won a playoff game. That's what you're saying to yourself.

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32:19 - 32:36 Guest

And the Bengals thing. The Bengals thing got in your head? Joe Mixon, young quarterback, wildcard team. I just hate the Chiefs, too. I don't want the Chiefs. Any other team but the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, I'm fine with. Literally any other team. It does not matter who.

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32:36 - 32:43 PFT Commenter

Your hatred of the Chiefs comes from a place of being a Patriots fan, where you want to keep them as far away from the dynasty that you had as possible.

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32:44 - 32:48 Guest

Yeah, and I just don't – it's not – they're just not – yeah, actually that's – Yeah, that's it.

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32:48 - 33:06 Big Cat

You could say I want something new, but that's what it is. Yeah. I have one last sad Chargers stat from Stat Hole. In the final 31 minutes of their last two playoff games, so like the final 31 minutes of their last playoff game, the final 31 minutes of Saturday, they've been outscored 63-9.

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33:08 - 33:13 Injury/Stat Update Voice

Yeah, that's tough. That's really bad. That's really, really bad. That's not good.

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33:13 - 33:37 Big Cat

That's when you're supposed to win the playoff games. The second half. That's what that is. Yeah, it's just they were just overwhelmed by the Texans' defense. Hank, the Chiefs are really good. Are they? Yeah. Yes, they won 15 games. But it could have been 10. But it also could have been 16 if they had played their starters.

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33:40 - 33:40 PFT Commenter

Rest versus rust.

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33:42 - 33:42 Big Cat

Okay.

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33:42 - 33:53 PFT Commenter

Rest versus rust. Okay. I don't have any counter to that. I do like that there's somebody that's brave enough to go out there and be like, the Chiefs aren't very good. I appreciate that about you. The Chiefs could lose this game.

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33:53 - 33:56 Guest

They're not as good as their record says they are.

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33:57 - 33:58 Big Cat

But they could be better.

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33:58 - 34:01 PFT Commenter

But their record is exactly what says how good they are.

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34:01 - 34:05 Big Cat

Are you saying they're not as good as their record says they are? They actually should be better?

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34:06 - 34:14 Guest

No, I'm saying if you stacked them up against the other teams that had similar records over the course of history, they would be the worst one.

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34:15 - 34:19 PFT Commenter

But you also have to remember that that Week 18 game was Carson Wentz. That's what I'm saying.

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34:19 - 34:23 Big Cat

So they gave that one up. It could be 16. Yeah. It could be 16-1.

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34:25 - 34:29 Guest

Yeah, but they get the extra game, so it doesn't really matter. In terms of 15 wins.

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34:29 - 34:31 Big Cat

They went 15-1 in your head. Yeah.

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34:31 - 34:32 Guest

In your record book. Right. Yeah.

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34:32 - 34:43 PFT Commenter

Okay. There's like a curse of 15-win teams. It goes all the way back to the 1985 Bears. The 85 Bears were the last team, I think, to win 15 games to win the Super Bowl.

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34:43 - 34:45 Big Cat

And then win the Super Bowl. Yeah, because it was the 99 Vikings.

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34:46 - 34:47 PFT Commenter

That sounds right, yeah.

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34:48 - 34:50 Big Cat

When they lost the NFC Championship game.

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34:50 - 34:53 PFT Commenter

And I mean exactly 15 wins. I think there was a year where there might have been...

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34:54 - 34:57 Big Cat

No, this year there were two teams. There might have been another one.

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34:57 - 35:02 PFT Commenter

Yeah. There hasn't been a ton. Let's see, 15 win teams in NFL history.

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35:03 - 35:10 Big Cat

I know the Vikings. The Steelers? Steelers lost Big Ben's rookie season, if I'm correct.

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35:10 - 35:25 PFT Commenter

Correct. So 1998 Vikings lost in the NFC Championship game. 2004 Steelers lost in the AFC Championship. 2011 Packers lost in the NFC Divisional. 2015 Panthers lost the Super Bowl. Okay.

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35:26 - 35:37 Big Cat

So it has been 40 years. 15 win teams are bad. Yep. Okay. All right. Maybe I'm with you now, Hank. You've swung me. That was some deep analytics. You've got me. That's right.

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35:37 - 35:40 PFT Commenter

Yeah. Really good teams sometimes don't win the Super Bowl.

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35:41 - 35:42 Big Cat

Happens almost every year.

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35:42 - 35:43 PFT Commenter

Could have shortened it to that.

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35:43 - 36:15 Big Cat

Yeah. All right. Saturday night. Ravens 28, Steelers 14. This was just an ass-kicking. This was an absolute ass-kicking. This was a Lamar masterclass. This was a Derrick Henry masterclass. The Ravens said fuck you to the Steelers. They did fuck you football for four quarters. I know that the Steelers did score twice, but they had 299 rushing yards. And the first half, the game was over.

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36:16 - 36:40 Big Cat

It felt over after the Steelers punted on their first possession and the Ravens got it on, I think, the five-yard line and went 13 plays, 95 yards, and a touchdown. That was like, oh, no, this is a problem. But it was really over on the next time the Ravens scored a touchdown when they went 13 plays, 85 yards. Every single one of those plays was a run. Mm-hmm.

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36:41 - 36:58 Big Cat

scored a touchdown, and then they scored at the end of the first half, and it was just like, this is as bad as it gets. The Ravens are just so fucking good. Yeah. And Lamar's so good. That Lamar touchdown at the end of the first half where he just bought himself like 18 seconds of time and found Justice Hill.

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36:58 - 37:14 PFT Commenter

Yeah. All cool, calm, and collected back there as everybody was trying to like... TJ Watt... He hasn't been playing that well in the last two months. And if you're going to beat the Ravens, you have to have TJ do... He has to have two takeaways on his own. He has to have a punch, and then he's got to get a strip sack that he recovers.

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37:15 - 37:19 PFT Commenter

And TJ has, I think in the last month, he hasn't... He might not have had a tackle.

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37:20 - 37:24 Big Cat

I think I saw the stat. It was like 127 snaps, no tackles, no pressures.

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37:24 - 37:45 PFT Commenter

Here we go. Last 127 snaps of his 2024 season. Zero tackles, zero assists, zero sacks. And what they had him doing on defense was... Whenever they would run the read option, he would always tackle the ball carrier. Crash, yeah. The running back. Yeah. And that was his job. And it left these huge gaps to the side, which somebody should fill if you're drawing up this defense.

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37:46 - 37:58 PFT Commenter

But there were some times where they just didn't fill that gap. And so Lamar just kept it and waltzed. Yeah. And it was like nobody within five yards of him for most of his run until the very end. And it was a very confusing defensive scheme.

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38:00 - 38:07 Big Cat

Derek Henry's Lightning McQueen. That's what Lamar said afterwards. Oh, I like that. Yeah, he looked like Lightning McQueen when he had that 50-yard touchdown run.

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38:07 - 38:21 PFT Commenter

I'm telling you, Derek Henry with the short hair, that is championship mentality. To take a growth of braids that you've been working on for how long? 10 years? Yeah. And be like, you know what? Fuck it. Chop it off. Yeah. I feel like that's a good mindset to have.

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38:21 - 38:45 Big Cat

Yeah. I mean, the Ravens are just like a complete... Full, like, everything. You know, their defense, we talked about it with Orlovsky on Friday, that, you know, their pass defense has been completely changed when Kyle Hamilton moved back, and their offense is just... I mean, Zay Flowers didn't play in this game. They didn't need him. Lamar was still perfect, and he killed him with his legs early.

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38:46 - 39:11 Big Cat

Like, whenever he had to pass, he would find someone. It was just a good reminder that in... The AFC, there are the haves and the have-nots in these playoffs, and the Ravens are the haves. This team is a Super Bowl championship level team, and they do have to play possibly two other teams that are in that level, which is unfortunate, but they're just so good and so complete.

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39:11 - 39:18 PFT Commenter

Them and the Bills would have to beat three Super Bowl championship teams. Yeah. Super Bowl this year. Yeah. It would be like the hardest Super Bowl road ever.

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39:18 - 39:24 Big Cat

Well, unless the Texans. But then the Texans would technically be a Super Bowl level team. Yeah, because they beat the Chiefs.

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39:24 - 39:32 PFT Commenter

But yeah, if that happens, then we will go back and retroactively act like we said what Hank was saying all along. Yes. And the Chiefs were the worst 15 win team of all time.

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39:32 - 39:47 Big Cat

Lamar also has the most career rushing yards in the playoffs by a QB, and he's only played, I think, seven playoff games. That's just how good he is with his feet. And again, it's not like he was killing them with his feet. He was also killing them with his arm. He was just playing a complete game.

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39:47 - 40:04 PFT Commenter

You have to say, if you look at the Ravens, they are as close to a complete team as you can get, with the exception maybe of their kicking game. Yeah. Would you say that they're so good right now? Didn't have to kick. They're so good right now that Justin Tucker might be their biggest weakness? Yeah, and they didn't have to kick. That's a good spot to be in.

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40:04 - 40:32 Big Cat

Yeah, so we should talk about the Steelers. Mike Tomlin, the Steelers. The Steelers are now... Eight-year playoff win drought. That is the longest. That's actually double the previous longest in Steelers history since they kind of became the Steelers in 1972 when they were starting to win Super Bowls and stuff. The longest they had gone without a playoff win was four years previously.

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40:33 - 41:04 Big Cat

They are – Mike Tomlin is now – so he started his first four years in Pittsburgh. He was 5-2 in the playoffs. He's 3-9 since. And in the eight-year drought, he's 0-6 in the playoffs, and they've given up 230 points. So Mike Tomlin, bad. He's a great coach. I do think that it probably is time to move on to something different. You think move on from Mike Tomlin?

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41:05 - 41:17 Big Cat

The Steelers aren't going to do it, though. Okay, so I've thought about this, and I was reading articles and stuff last night because I couldn't sleep, and I was just like – because I want to understand because from the outside, we've had this conversation.

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41:17 - 41:34 Big Cat

From the outside, the low of the Steelers' season is getting to the playoffs, which almost every other fan base or a lot of fan bases would be like, fuck, sign me up. Mike Tomlin never had a losing season. That's what people say. There is a point, though, where it feels like the message is getting lost and there isn't growth.

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41:35 - 42:02 Big Cat

And you can point to the fact that they haven't had an answer at quarterback probably since the last three years of Ben, Kenny, Russ. They haven't had a great quarterback. So they haven't been playing at the offensive level you need to play to win playoff games. And I would agree with that. But also... They invest everything in their defense, and here's the six-game losing streak for the Steelers.

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42:02 - 42:19 Big Cat

You ready for this? This is a crazy stat. Before the Steelers scored their first offensive touchdown in these six games that Mike Tomlin has lost in a row, The Patriots were up 10-0. The Jaguars were up 21-0. The Browns were up 28-0. The Chiefs were up 35-7. Shout out your TJ Watt bet. The Bills were up 21-0. The Ravens were up 21-0.

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42:27 - 42:48 Big Cat

As much as you want to say offense, their defense has also failed them in the playoffs, and their defense has every single year basically regressed as the season's gone along. I think I side with the Steelers fans. He's done a great job. You're not saying he's a bad coach, but sometimes the message gets lost and you have to change something.

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42:48 - 43:05 Big Cat

You have to shake something up because it's actually almost like a curse to have Mike Tomlin as your coach still because you're never bad enough to pick at the top of the draft to get a franchise quarterback. Yeah. And then you invest in defense, and you can't really win. You can't win in today's NFL without an offense.

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43:05 - 43:17 PFT Commenter

I think that also their defense, by the time they get to the playoffs with these just crazy, boring, substandard offenses, by the time they get there, their defense is sick of having to carry the team. Their defense is exhausted.

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43:17 - 43:30 PFT Commenter

from somehow scrapping together a playoff team, getting enough wins to get in, that by the time you get there and you have to play against another really good team, then they're just too gassed. They're too tired from having to do it week in and week out.

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43:30 - 43:49 Big Cat

And you can't – so the other part about Mike Tomlin is you can't say, well, oh, the offense stinks because we don't have a quarterback. We don't have this. We don't have that. Mike Tomlin has ultimate power in Pittsburgh. Yeah. He signs off on every single draft pick. He signs off on every coaching hire.

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43:50 - 44:06 Big Cat

The other thing I found, the rabbit hole, I didn't realize this was an argument that goes in Steelers' community, which I kind of feel like is a fair argument. Mike Tomlin... basically has no coaching tree. And you'd say, well, what the fuck does that matter? Who cares about a coaching tree?

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44:07 - 44:17 Big Cat

But it does kind of say that he's hiring older coaches that maybe aren't... He hasn't been cultivating young, innovative guys that...

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44:17 - 44:35 Big Cat

That are doing things differently like a Ben Johnson or you know like a Sean McPherson or Mike McDaniel or like some of these guys Kyle Shanahan's coach tree like some of these guys who are who are just spitting out young innovators of the game Mike Tomlin has not done that essentially for his entire like I looked at it.

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44:36 - 44:53 Big Cat

Bruce Arians is kind of the only one you could throw out there, and he already was on staff under Bill Cower. So I think his way is an old school way that I think might be outdated and is hurting the Steelers, and they have to figure out a way to move on from him. He does love old guys.

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44:53 - 45:09 PFT Commenter

He loves old guys. Dick LeBeau was his defensive coordinator for it felt like decades. Right. So that's part of the like he hasn't. But he also goes out and he gets old. He right. He imports old guys. So like Danny Smith, their special teams coach that's always chewing on gum on the sidelines brought him in.

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45:09 - 45:31 Big Cat

Todd Haley after he got fired by the Chiefs. Arthur Smith. Great coach. Great coach. But he gets guys and it's not like... Todd Haley didn't go and... He didn't go to Pittsburgh and then go off and be like... I think he's coaching high school football now. I know he went to Cleveland for a stop. Matt Canada, where is he? I don't even know. Some different country. Yeah, I don't know. So I...

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45:33 - 45:41 Big Cat

But it's a hard one to figure out because, again, you don't want to – Mike Tomlin would get a job right away somewhere else.

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45:41 - 45:53 PFT Commenter

You know what really happened, though? If you look at the stats, the defense has been very, very good for the Steelers in the playoffs until a certain event happened. And then their playoff defense was permanently broken.

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45:53 - 45:54 Quick Interjection

What was that?

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45:54 - 45:57 PFT Commenter

That event was the 2017 playoffs.

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45:57 - 45:57 Quick Interjection

Yeah.

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45:57 - 46:02 PFT Commenter

Blake Bortles hung 45 on him. Yeah. They lost 45-42.

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46:02 - 46:04 Big Cat

Which it wasn't that close.

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46:04 - 46:31 PFT Commenter

It wasn't that close. That was a lot of garbage time. Yeah. It was a backdoor 42 is what they got. So they gave up 45 points. In the previous playoff, they gave up 12 points, 16 points. And then the New England Patriots in 2016 put 36 on them. That's forgivable. Yeah. But their defense was still legit at that point. Then 45 points. Then in 2020, they gave up 48, then 42, then 31, and now 28.

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46:31 - 46:38 PFT Commenter

This was actually the least amount of points that the Steelers have given up in a playoff game since 2016. Yeah.

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46:42 - 47:04 Big Cat

Their last playoff win. Yeah. Yeah, Blake Bortles broke them. Blake Bortles broke them. Again, I don't know why I thought about it for so long last night, but you see this sometimes where a coach will get fired, and it's not because he's bad. It's because the message in like you're kind of going in the same direction over and over. You know what I mean?

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47:04 - 47:24 Big Cat

Like you're not you're just not progressing forward and you're kind of stuck in this rut. And that's what the Steelers feel like right now. It's not. saying, oh, Mike Thomas never had a losing season, and if he got fired tomorrow, he would have a job the next day. I don't disagree with either of those statements, but it's just not working anymore. And what's the fix?

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47:24 - 47:28 Big Cat

Are they going to re-sign Russ? I don't think so. I don't know. He did not look good.

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47:29 - 47:36 PFT Commenter

No, he had that nice deep ball to Georgie. Besides that, not a lot. Justin Fields, I don't think he's the long-term answer either. Right.

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47:36 - 47:38 Big Cat

We can do Aaron Rodgers, which is another one-year –

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47:39 - 47:59 PFT Commenter

fix so band-aid coach gruden was saying he would take daniel jones daniel jones would be intriguing just because his point was like if you look at all the other players that the giants have gotten rid of or not brought back they all go somewhere else and play very well yeah he spent so much time in such a great room Yeah, he's in a great room right now.

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47:59 - 48:00 Guest

We've talked about that room.

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48:00 - 48:23 Big Cat

Yeah. Over the year. And obviously Mike Tomlin's not going to get fired, and he also is not going to get traded because there's a no trade clause. So if he wanted to get, like, he would never allow himself to get traded because he could just be like, why would I go somewhere and give up draft capital? Why wouldn't I just quit and then just go pick my next job?

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48:23 - 48:41 PFT Commenter

Okay, so I think I have an idea for what they could do. How much does it cost to trade for the franchise tag? Is it two first rounders? I believe so. That's almost the perfect situation if you're the Steelers because you're always picking in the mid to late teens. Right. So you're never going to be in a position where you can draft a quarterback with Mike Tomlin. Right.

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48:41 - 49:02 PFT Commenter

Where, you know, a lot of teams, if they are in the midst of what they feel like is a rut, they're usually one of the worst teams in the league. So that's not an option for the Steelers. Two, like, 18 overall picks or 17 overall picks for Sam Darnold, I think I might do that if the Vikings tag him. Oh.

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49:03 - 49:07 Big Cat

Yeah, but then Sam Darnold's not with Kevin O'Connell anymore.

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49:08 - 49:20 PFT Commenter

Do you have a better idea? I don't. I don't. I don't. The best one I can come up with is if he gets tagged, trade for Sam Darnold, I think Arthur Smith can get something good out of Sam.

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49:21 - 49:37 Big Cat

I do, too. I honestly think they'll have to fix. And Mike Taubman's coming back, so this is all kind of, we're just, it's going to be a hot topic, but I think Schefter even reported his job's not in jeopardy. The Steelers should figure out a way to move on and suck for a year or two. You know what I mean?

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49:37 - 49:57 Big Cat

They're in this no man's land where they're just good enough to make the playoffs and they're not going to get a franchise quarterback and they're just going to keep spinning the wheels right now. They weren't close in this game. No. And you could make the case for the Chargers or the Broncos. They have young quarterbacks. They're building something. They're on the ascent here.

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49:57 - 50:04 Big Cat

They're going to maybe hopefully get to that top level of the AFC. The Steelers are not on the ascent. They're in the same spot they've been every year. Mm-hmm.

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50:04 - 50:22 PFT Commenter

Well, you say they don't show any signs of growth. George Pickens would disagree with you. Yeah. He said he's seen signs of growth from the offense, and then the reporter asked him, does that make you optimistic going forward? And he said, nah. Nah. That's good. It's good to acknowledge that growth is not always good. Yeah. Sometimes it's okay to not grow.

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50:22 - 50:44 Big Cat

Yeah. Also, I saw a stat that Steelers' last lead was December 8th. So the last five games they didn't have a single lead in a game. Over a month? Yeah. Five games played, not a single lead. Yeah, that's hard. I just don't. Do you think Russ is, like, what's going to happen to Russ? He's probably going to show up to the facility and give everybody a pep talk. Yeah.

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50:45 - 50:50 Big Cat

That was funny last night when he was doing a pep talk and Jerry was just like, yeah, that guy doesn't even play.

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50:50 - 51:14 Big Cat

yeah but i he's he's done right i think so i don't know why you would pay russ wilson what russell wilson thinks he should be paid right maybe you pay him and you're like maybe you pay him one million dollars and you're like for every pass you complete over the middle of the field will give you another million dollars yeah it's like so you could earn up to five million dollars this year

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51:14 - 51:18 PFT Commenter

Yeah, incentives for just not talking to people at practice.

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51:18 - 51:20 Big Cat

Yeah. You got to get creative.

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51:21 - 51:34 PFT Commenter

There's no good solution for them. And again, it feels kind of weird to feel bad for a franchise or feel bad for fans of a franchise that are perennially in the playoffs. They have six Super Bowls. They have six Super Bowls. But I understand the frustration.

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51:34 - 51:46 Big Cat

Right. I get it. I totally get it. You are just stuck in absolute purgatory, which is kind of hard to do in the NFL. It happens in the NBA. It can happen in other sports. It's hard. Like... In the NFL, you're kind of either good or bad. They're just right in the middle.

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51:46 - 51:54 PFT Commenter

And also Steelers fans kind of saw this coming in late September. Oh, yeah. You knew exactly how the rest of the season was going to play out.

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51:54 - 52:05 Big Cat

Yeah, yeah. And it had just enough intrigue this year where you had a 4-2 starter in Justin Fields. You'd be like, what is he doing? And then you ripped off all those wins, and then you haven't led since December 8th.

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52:05 - 52:09 PFT Commenter

We did give a lot of credit to Mike Tomlin for making that change. Yeah. Which took some balls.

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52:09 - 52:29 Big Cat

He's a very good coach. I just don't think that it's working anymore in Pittsburgh. And Pittsburgh doesn't fire coaches, and I think he just signed an extension last year, so they're not going to fire him. But yeah, I thought about it a lot because I feel like Steelers fans, this is going to be the talk in Pittsburgh, so I wanted to give at least a little hat tip to discussing what...

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52:30 - 52:36 Big Cat

everyone's going to be talking about in Pittsburgh. But yeah, the Ravens are just, they're on a different level. They play that game a hundred times. Ravens win a hundred times.

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52:36 - 52:50 PFT Commenter

Ravens are insane. They can do anything they want on offense. Yeah. Even without safe flowers. Yeah. And I'm so excited for that matchup next week. I'm very excited too, but I've never been more confused about a game. Like how it's going to shake out. I have no idea.

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52:50 - 52:55 Big Cat

Yeah. We were talking about just not even betting the game, just rooting for football. Yeah. Just enjoying it. It's going to be enjoyable.

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52:55 - 52:59 PFT Commenter

I think I'll probably end up betting for touchdown scores on each team.

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52:59 - 53:02 Big Cat

Yeah, just having fun, having a good time, watching the game.

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53:02 - 53:03 PFT Commenter

I'm going to bet on the boys.

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53:03 - 53:13 Big Cat

Yeah. Also, the Ravens only had three penalties, which that's significant because it looks like they can play buttoned up. Is Zay Flowers going to come back for this game? I don't know.

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53:13 - 53:21 PFT Commenter

I read a report last week saying that if he doesn't play this game, he should be back in time for the next round, but I don't know. I don't think they really know either.

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53:22 - 53:22 Quick Interjection

Okay.

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53:22 - 53:41 Big Cat

All right. Let's take a... How pumped is Stavi right now? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, this is... The Ravens, like, this is going to be the Bills, Chiefs, and Ravens. All three of those teams have Super Bowl contending teams, and only one of them is going to make it out.

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53:41 - 53:48 Guest

Whoever wins that game has to beat the Texans. Yeah, you're right. Or Chiefs. They'll have the whole playoff. Somehow the Chiefs can win that half.

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53:48 - 54:04 Big Cat

If the Chiefs can pull an upset on the Texans, then I guess you have to beat the Chiefs. Yeah. But they have to. They have to. They have to. Okay, let's take a break, and then we'll get to Sunday's game. Okay, before we get to Sunday's games, we're brought to you by our friends at Apple.

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54:04 - 54:26 Big Cat

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55:36 - 56:01 Big Cat

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56:01 - 56:11 Big Cat

Okay, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. Bills 31, Broncos 7. Broncos up 7-0 in this game.

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56:12 - 56:18 PFT Commenter

First rookie-to-rookie touchdown pass in postseason history. Yeah, that was a crazy stat. I didn't believe it at first. Bo Nix, Troy Franklin.

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56:18 - 56:28 Big Cat

Yeah. Teammates at Oregon. Wild. Wild. Oh, by the way, we didn't mention the Chargers and Texans were the score. Got me.

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56:29 - 56:30 PFT Commenter

Oh, yeah, that's right. Playoff score agami.

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56:30 - 56:49 Big Cat

How rare is that? I usually care a lot about score agamis. That's my bad. That's my bad. Very cool. Bills 31, Broncos 7. Yeah, the Broncos, for the first five minutes, you're like, watch out. And then we were reminded that the Bills are the Bills, and they're just better.

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56:50 - 57:11 PFT Commenter

And I think we need to start respecting Khalil Shakir a little bit more. Yeah, I love him. Because he is a top-tier wide receiver. He doesn't get talked about like he is because his name wasn't Stefan Diggs, and he didn't have the media attention all around him. But he can play. Yeah. Whether he's returning a kick out of the slot on the outside, he's a problem for defenses.

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57:11 - 57:30 Big Cat

Yeah, he's very, very good. And this game was like – The Broncos' defense played pretty well in the first half because they held them out of the end zone. I think they scored one touchdown, but they staged tough in the red zone. And then the second half started, and Josh Allen was like, yeah, you know what I'm going to do?

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57:31 - 57:39 Big Cat

We're going to run the ball down your throat, and then if I ever need to make an incredible throw, I'll just do that. I can do it because I've done it. That throw to Ty Johnson...

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57:40 - 58:00 PFT Commenter

was so insane yeah he was just running around scrambling didn't look like anything was going to be open throws to the back of the end zone and he catches it with like his knee on the ground before his feet hit it was insane but you expect that type of stuff out of Josh the one to Dalton Kincaid also going into halftime the Broncos were kicking a field goal to tie the game yeah

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58:00 - 58:08 PFT Commenter

That's wild when you think about the second half and how lopsided it was to think back to that moment. Was it a 38-yarder? Yeah. Something like that?

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58:08 - 58:10 Big Cat

No, it was a little longer than that, I believe.

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58:10 - 58:25 PFT Commenter

He doinked it. It was a very makeable kick. It was. And it was a very loud doink that he let out. Yeah. And if he had made that kick 10-10 into halftime, second half probably turns out the same way. But just kind of weird to think that they played him to a tie at halftime.

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58:25 - 58:32 Guest

It was a 50-yarder. 10-10 and he's out of bounds on that fourth and one, like... It's a game. It would have been a completely different game, I feel like.

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58:32 - 58:38 PFT Commenter

50 yards is a lot longer. You know what it was? He hit it up so high on the upright. That's just kickers, man.

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58:38 - 59:04 Big Cat

Here's what I didn't understand about this game. First of all, Bill's offensive line is just monsters because they just ran it down the Broncos' throat. Over and over, James Cook, I think he had 70, 80 yards in the first half. What I didn't understand about this game is I feel like Sean Payton Started the game the correct way, being like, hey, we're over a touchdown underdogs in Buffalo.

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59:04 - 59:25 Big Cat

Josh Allen, if he's on, they're going to score every single time. We've got to steal possessions. We've got to play aggressive. And you saw it with the Bo Nix touchdown deep shot. You saw it with the fake punt, which was a great call, perfect call. And then the second half started. And the Bills scored a touchdown, I believe, to start the second half.

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59:26 - 59:42 Big Cat

And then the Broncos went run, run, pass, punt. And then the Bills scored another touchdown, and they went run, run, pass, punt. They kind of got a little conservative. They didn't let Bo Nix just rip it. It was a little Kirk Cignetti-like, wasn't it? Yeah, it was weird. I thought they were going to...

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59:45 - 60:07 Big Cat

really embrace the role of underdog and be like we have to do some crazy shit to have a chance in this game because you know like the broncos are not as good as the bills if you play them straight up the bills will win i thought sean pate was doing that in the second half i felt like he just abandoned that yeah they uh only had two sacks for the broncos if they were going to have a chance at this game they were going to have to take josh down way more than that

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60:08 - 60:32 PFT Commenter

and uh yeah the offensive line for the bills at one point our friend rudy who is uh i don't know if he is he a denver native yeah he is colorado yeah he is as colorado as it gets he was just like national champion yeah he was like the bills are their offensive line is just so heavy yeah and he was right they were mauling they just leaned on him dawkins was just bowling people over at one point dawkins like picked up james cook and dragged him for a first down on his own

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60:32 - 60:38 Big Cat

I think he also put one of the Broncos defenders out for the game by just hitting him hard enough.

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60:38 - 60:44 PFT Commenter

Yeah, hit him hard in the shoulder, right? Yeah. Yeah, knocked him out. Looked like he separated his shoulder. The Bills also looked like a very complete team.

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60:44 - 60:59 Big Cat

Yes, very much so. I mean, their defense is still a question mark, but they answered the question mark, at least against the Broncos. And they finally threw the ball downfield to Curtis Samuel. Yeah. Curtis Samuel had a 55-yard touchdown. Yeah. Yeah, they did it all. They played much like the Ravens.

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61:00 - 61:12 Big Cat

This was like a tune-up game for the Bills versus Ravens because even though it felt close in the first half, that second half was just an absolute demolition, and it was never close in the second half.

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61:12 - 61:30 PFT Commenter

The thing I'll say nice about the Broncos, obviously this is free money. Oh, yeah, I got some nice things to say about the Broncos. Great season for the Broncos. You're very happy if you're a Broncos fan. You probably would have liked to make this more competitive or win the game, obviously, but you're happy. This is a good season for you. I think they have the most dead cap in NFL history.

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61:30 - 61:53 PFT Commenter

$85 million. So that's Russ Wilson. Yep. That's the contract that you correctly decided to cut your losses and move on from. And with Bo Nix and Cortland Sutton together, if you're putting together like an NBA jam team where you can only have two guys out there on offense. Yeah. That's one of the better combos. That's a fun one. Because Cortland Sutton is really, really good.

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61:53 - 62:11 PFT Commenter

And Bo Nix, obviously, he's going to be a great quarterback. Although I did see, I saw something in one of the pregame shows where they were talking about Sean Payton's offense and how complicated it is to learn for a quarterback. And some of his play calls are like, they take seven or eight seconds to say out loud, that's got to suck if you're a quarterback in that system.

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62:11 - 62:12 Big Cat

Yeah.

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62:12 - 62:14 PFT Commenter

How much time do you have to spend just memorizing and paying attention?

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62:14 - 62:32 Big Cat

But Bo Nix is professional. He's got his book back. That's true. He's ready to go. Sean Payton's halftime interview was where I was like, oh, this game is over. Because he came out and was like, we've got to control the ball more. We've got to just control the ball. It's like, no, you've got to score points.

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62:32 - 62:40 PFT Commenter

That's kind of the vibe with them. It's like, we're going to try to run the football. Right. We're going to put forth our best foot and try to run the football, but they just weren't able to.

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62:40 - 63:01 Big Cat

Also, credit to Bills for the report came out before the game that they deliberately were putting Von Miller on a snap count in the regular season so they'd be fresh for the playoffs. That showed. Full circle. Yeah, that showed. Full circle. No, but the Broncos, obviously you're upset if you're a Broncos fan, but in a weird way,

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63:02 - 63:24 Big Cat

This loss, it's not a good loss because you lost the playoffs, but you got your asses kicked and it's like you're the second youngest roster in the NFL. You had $85 million in dead cap. Similar to the Chargers, you did not think you were going to be a playoff team this year. And the Bills, there's levels to this. Like, the Bills are on a different level as a football team.

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63:24 - 63:46 Big Cat

You're trying to get to that level. You got your rookie quarterback start in the playoffs. Like, everything in this Broncos season was a win outside of today. But, like, long term, this was a great, great season that you'll hopefully look back on and be like, that was the start of something special. You have a ton of young guys played all year. You got...

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63:47 - 63:53 Big Cat

The dead cap money is going to get fixed, and you got your quarterback. That's awesome. Great season. Great, great season.

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63:53 - 64:03 PFT Commenter

I'd say, is this an A, A-plus season? I'd say it's an A. Should we grade seasons? I think it's an A season. I think it's an A season. I would say an A-minus season for the Chargers.

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64:03 - 64:29 Big Cat

I would agree. I would agree, because you were favorites and you lost that game. Yep. Also, I don't want to be the uniformed police, but I hated the Broncos uniforms. Yeah, go with the classics. It drives me insane. The Broncos have some of the nicest uniforms in the entire NFL. They have uniforms that they can put out there that make you feel nostalgic about life. Yeah. Go with those.

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64:29 - 64:31 Big Cat

Go with the all whites and the blue helmet.

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64:31 - 64:46 PFT Commenter

Yeah, I don't like the orange pants. The orange pants just look ridiculous. We say you don't want to be uniformed police. Yes, you do. Yeah, I want to be. Well, I saw the uniforms. They got no chance. I'm like the guy that buys that light at the hardware store and puts it in my car so I can pretend I'm a cop. I do want to be the uniformed police.

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64:46 - 64:56 Big Cat

And I've said this before. When I went on my rant about the Packers, whatever, Snow White uniforms and princess uniforms, I hold...

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64:57 - 65:16 Big Cat

teams with history to a different standard so it's almost a compliment like i think the broncos have a incredible franchise history and have incredible uniforms in their bag i hold you to a different standard i want you to bring the to the playoffs i want you to bring the best uniform yeah like if the jaguars were in the playoffs okay wear whatever goofy shit you want to wear

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65:16 - 65:34 Big Cat

The Rams and Chargers can wear whatever the fuck they want. Yeah. Because I know that they have like a million different... Even the Seahawks, they do weird uniforms. Who cares? Yeah, it's fine. The Broncos, that's John Elway. There's classic playoff games that you can look up the footage to. That's what I want to see when I watch the Broncos in the playoffs.

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65:34 - 65:42 PFT Commenter

Maybe Sean Payton went with these uniforms because he knew he was going to lose. And he didn't want to add, he wanted to sully the legacy of the great Denver uniforms with a loss.

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65:42 - 65:43 Big Cat

That's a great point.

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65:43 - 65:44 PFT Commenter

He was protecting the brand.

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65:44 - 65:49 Big Cat

So when the Broncos bring out their classic uniforms, we know that they have a real team. Yes, that's how you know.

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65:49 - 65:55 PFT Commenter

We always think, oh, I feel like they always win in these uniforms. Well, it's because their coach knows that they're better when they wear them.

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65:55 - 66:03 Big Cat

Yeah, so Max just pulled up, I think it's the 91 AFC Championship game, and the Broncos are wearing the all-whites with the blue helmets.

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66:03 - 66:22 PFT Commenter

Those are awesome. I also like these Bills throwbacks with the red helmet. Yeah. Also, shout out that one guy in Bills Mafia that was in the end zone. Sport coat, big belly hanging over, giant twisted tee in his hand, and the buffalo wing necklace and the top hat. That was just like Bills Mafia just still down to a human being. King.

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66:22 - 66:27 Big Cat

King Bills Mafia. Hank, what did you think about this game? The Don. I know you talked yourself into the Broncos.

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66:30 - 66:51 Guest

The Broncos, like you said, the fake punt worked, but they didn't make anything out of it. They missed the field goal to tie it up at halftime. If they got some points there, tied it up at halftime, and then that fourth and one, that was a great play by Josh, but it was inches away from being incomplete. As much as it was a blowout, the Broncos were also very much alive in that game.

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66:52 - 66:54 Big Cat

Yeah, they were just getting run on, though.

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66:55 - 66:59 Guest

I still don't think they would have won, but I think... A couple plays could have made it closer.

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67:00 - 67:23 Big Cat

I'd agree with that. I just think the Bills are just... Again, there's three teams in the AFC that are on a different level. It's the Bills, the Ravens, and the Texans. Those three teams... Those teams are just playing at a different level come January. Yep. Everyone else is just hoping to win a playoff game. I can't wait for the Bills-Ravens game. I'm so happy it's the last game, too.

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67:24 - 67:30 Big Cat

I feel like that Sunday late spot divisional round is always the big, big game.

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67:31 - 67:35 Guest

This is when it's like officially, officially playoffs. That's a game you'll think about all week.

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67:35 - 67:35 Big Cat

Yeah.

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67:35 - 67:40 Guest

Every day of this week. Yes. And you know what? I said it. When is Lions... I mean, when is Bills-Ravens starting?

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67:41 - 68:02 Big Cat

When the Bills went up 28-7, I was like, this is why we watch sports. For the Bills-Ravens. This is why we put in the hours. This is why we lift the weights. This is why you like... are maybe from the outside world looked at as somewhat pathetic, like the people who were trashing Tate and Titus and saying they weren't men because they were celebrating Ohio State and Jack Sawyer.

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68:02 - 68:07 PFT Commenter

Yeah, instead of watching sports, you should be out there participating in mutual combat.

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68:07 - 68:11 Big Cat

Yeah. That guy, he doesn't have Bill's Ravens in his life. He doesn't, and you know what?

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68:11 - 68:17 Guest

This is a game... Can you read the... This is crazy, because it was just a very... It was a pretty normal gambling cave clip, I thought.

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68:17 - 68:21 Big Cat

It was very funny. Yeah, let me read it. I think I bookmarked a couple of them, because there was a couple.

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68:21 - 68:31 PFT Commenter

This is a game that you're going to have to be prepared for. You're going to have to be ready as a fan. Even if you're not a fan, specifically, of the Ravens or the Bills... You got to bring your A game to watch this game.

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68:31 - 68:35 Big Cat

Yeah. All right. So there was one person who said... There was two of them.

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68:36 - 68:43 Guest

It was Tate and Titus after the Jack Sawyer fumble recovery touchdown. They were just celebrating and dry humping the air. Yeah, yeah.

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68:43 - 68:50 Big Cat

Scroll up. Pretty standard. Yeah. So this person... I mean, these guys are... I assume these guys are just like Andrew Tate, like...

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68:52 - 69:19 Big Cat

adjacent I said it is utterly embarrassing how men have become bystanders of fake combat instead of active martial participants it is a very funny clip state is just dry humping a football who is this guy Arthur Kwan Lee yeah then there was another guy Z rebirth 369 said gay shit I've ever seen whole country is dying and they only feel passion when watching men touch each other good point what

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69:20 - 69:40 Big Cat

Wait, guys can't watch sports anymore? What the fuck? They're kind of boys touching each other. Like, what the hell? When is it wrong to watch sports with your boys? It's not. And guess what? Those two guys, they think we're losers. You don't have Bill's Ravens to look forward to. And I'm banning both of those guys from watching Bill's Ravens.

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69:40 - 69:51 PFT Commenter

And I would also like to know when they thought that the country was great because there's always been sports. Yeah. Bread and circus. Always been sports. Since the Romans. They did sports. It's a hell of a circus.

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69:51 - 70:10 Big Cat

Yeah. It's a great circus. I love the circus. And guess what? The circus makes us forget all our problems. It works. And it's going to be such a circus coming to town this weekend. We literally do bread and circus in this office every single Sunday where they just throw food at us and we watch sports and we forget all the world's problems. Yeah, oh, wait. And it's the best existence.

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70:10 - 70:14 Big Cat

And I think a lot of people listening right now do the same thing every Sunday.

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70:14 - 70:15 PFT Commenter

Entertainment and carbs?

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70:16 - 70:25 Big Cat

Yeah. Bad? Oh, no. But then you won't be thinking about how bad everything is. Yeah, that's the point. That's literally the point.

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70:26 - 70:34 PFT Commenter

Yeah. How about instead of worrying about whether or not a guy is going to cross an imaginary line on a field, you focus on real issues like immigration.

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70:34 - 70:56 Big Cat

Yeah. Hey, you guys watch three hours of a football game. Well, I thought long and hard about Ukraine. Yeah. Who had a better Sunday? Yeah. Me. I did. I had a great weekend. Yeah. I had a lot better of a Sunday. Okay. Anything else for Bill's Broncos? Broncos get better uniforms.

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70:56 - 70:59 PFT Commenter

DeMar should not have celebrated the interception. He knew that he didn't pick it off.

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71:00 - 71:05 Big Cat

I don't know if he did because he looked shocked when they overturned it. He had that face where he was like, what?

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71:06 - 71:14 PFT Commenter

That's true. I always wonder that when they go to a replay and it's a bang-bang play where a guy traps the ball off the ground a little bit. In the moment, if you're diving on the ground, do you know that you didn't catch it?

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71:14 - 71:25 Big Cat

Look at his face. He thought he caught it. Also, that's a total non-story if it's anyone but DeMar. Correct. DeMar gets... DeMar gets clowned.

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71:25 - 71:36 PFT Commenter

I got a question for you about DeMar. Which is crazy. When did DeMar become a joke because he died? I don't know. Because it was a pretty incredible story what happened to him. Correct.

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71:36 - 71:43 Guest

But it happened in the last, like, maybe year? No. I mean, people were doing the clone shit, like, right away. But that was different. Some people actually thought it was a clone.

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71:43 - 72:05 Big Cat

Yeah, Billy. That was different. That was like, there's fucked up shit they're not telling us. Now it's like... People, it feels like there's some people that are actively rooting against DeMar just because he almost died on a football field. Yeah, no, they hate him. Yeah. It's very bizarre.

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72:05 - 72:16 PFT Commenter

I've noticed the same thing. Do you think it was a fake punt? It might have been the fake punt. That fake punt was... It might have been the fake punt. That was a funny... Because it felt like they were doing the fake punt to put the spotlight on, like, thank you for coming back tomorrow.

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72:17 - 72:29 Big Cat

And not only... Take the whole fact that he almost died on a football field. He was a fringe player, special teams player, that has worked his way into the starting rotation. That should be applauded.

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72:29 - 72:34 PFT Commenter

And I think his whole mission is to put defibrillators in schools. Really good mission. Yeah.

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72:35 - 72:40 Big Cat

If you have kids, you should be a pro DeMar guy. Yeah. Were you going to say something, Max? You don't like DeMar?

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72:42 - 72:49 Kev Finhart

No. I just wanted to show you. I like DeMar. Oh, okay. You like DeMar. I just wanted to show the ref, Josh Allen.

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72:49 - 73:18 Big Cat

Oh, yeah. So did you hear afterwards? So there was a red zone trip where the Bills, there was definitely a hold that they missed. and Josh Allen yelled at the refs. So there was a clip coming out of the commercial where, was it Bill Vinovich? Went up to Josh Allen, went to the sideline to talk to him, and obviously everyone was like, I cannot believe the ref is apologizing to Josh Allen.

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73:18 - 73:30 Big Cat

Josh Allen, after the game, said that's not what was happening. The ref came up to him to tell him, hey... Stop yelling at us. We miss calls. If you keep yelling at us, it's not going to fix anything.

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73:30 - 73:36 PFT Commenter

I think it was the mutual hand touching and then the pat on the head. They gave each other a side hug.

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73:36 - 73:46 Big Cat

So the conversation was not, hey, I'm sorry, Josh, we'll get you on the next one. It was, hey, Josh, could you stop being an asshole to us, I guess. So that totally changes it.

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73:47 - 73:53 PFT Commenter

Imagine if Patrick Mahomes did this, the media would go nuts. Did that become a big thing?

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73:54 - 74:15 Big Cat

I think that was driven by a lot of... It becomes a real rivalry when the Chiefs and the Bills... Imagine the outrage on the Sabbath. They showed a ref touching Patrick Mahomes the way they did just now with Josh Allen. That's when you know, and I know the Bills haven't beaten the Chiefs in the playoffs, so rivalry, I put in quotes here, but... Chiefs fans hate Bills fans. Yeah.

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74:15 - 74:22 Big Cat

And Bills fans hate Chiefs fans because they're going to use this clip to fight a turf war between Josh Allen, which they should.

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74:22 - 74:38 PFT Commenter

You know what? This is ammunition for that war. This is ammunition for the picture of Patrick Mahomes kissing the ref on the lips, which I'm still not sure if that's real or not. No, that's real. It looks very real. So whenever that gets posted, now they have instant comeback. Yeah. Yeah, they're like, look at this. And this is realer.

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74:38 - 74:49 Big Cat

Yeah. This actually happens. Some would say. Yeah. Good job producing, Max. We forgot to mention that. People would be mad. That was memes. Oh, memes. Memes, take a victory lap. What do you want to say?

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74:51 - 74:53 Guest

I would like to thank myself. Oh, wait, wait.

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74:53 - 75:03 Big Cat

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Memes is one of the turf war guys. You were pissed that the ref was going up to him. Oh, as a Jets fan? Yeah.

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75:03 - 75:03 Unknown Speaker

Yeah.

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75:03 - 75:07 Big Cat

Now it makes sense. Yeah. No, no, no, no.

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75:07 - 75:17 PFT Commenter

Yeah, you were. Yeah, you were mad. You were saying to show the Josh Allen thing. Yeah. Not knowing that Big Cat was going to say, oh, Josh said that the ref was saying stop yelling at me or I'm going to get penalized. Yeah.

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75:18 - 75:26 Guest

No, that's not it. Chiefs fans are getting mad at me because I tweeted out the ref apologizes to Josh Allen. Hashtag some things. They were saying very mean things.

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75:26 - 75:33 Big Cat

I thought you were on the side of the Chiefs fans there. Oh, fuck. We forgot to mention the Boltman, which I think it's a fake Boltman.

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75:34 - 75:34 PFT Commenter

It's a fake Boltman.

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75:34 - 75:43 Big Cat

It's like DeMar. That's the worst. That was partially why the Chargers lost. Yeah, that looks like... Oh, you maxed Boltman?

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75:45 - 75:49 Guest

Yeah, and then somebody took it and it went viral. Oh, I love it.

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75:49 - 75:52 PFT Commenter

This fake Boltman looks like drill. Yeah.

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75:52 - 76:10 Big Cat

That's not Boltman. No, it's not. I think the original Boltman sold his Boltman. For like 50K. Yeah, because he was so sick that they left San Diego. All right. Eagles 22, Packers 10. Maxie. Ugly game.

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76:12 - 76:16 Kev Finhart

Rust. Quarterback had some rust that he had to work out. Defense was phenomenal.

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76:16 - 76:19 Big Cat

Defense was very good. Jordan Love stinks.

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76:19 - 76:37 Kev Finhart

Yep. A lot of pressure from that D-line. Made the quarterback look not so great. Defense was really, really good. Both lines were really, really good. Saquon was really, really good. Some things to work on for next week, but you'll take that win 10 times out of 10.

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76:38 - 76:47 PFT Commenter

Are you concerned with the play-calling? I'm concerned with a win. Oh, okay. I was just asking. It sounds like you're a little touchy about that question.

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76:48 - 76:50 Big Cat

Yeah, that was a little touchy.

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76:50 - 76:58 PFT Commenter

A normal answer to that would be, no, I thought Kellen Moore did a great job. Yeah, no, I'm not worried. Your answer tells me that you might be a little bit worried.

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76:59 - 77:00 Big Cat

You got very defensive there.

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77:00 - 77:07 Kev Finhart

I mean, Eagles won 22-10. I don't think it was a one-score game at any point up until the end.

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77:07 - 77:13 Big Cat

It was definitely a one-score game. I think the Eagles played 100% of a one-score game.

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77:13 - 77:18 Kev Finhart

I think they're a very, very, very good team. A one-score game with the Packers having the ball.

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77:18 - 77:20 PFT Commenter

But you are getting very defensive about a simple question, Max.

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77:21 - 77:35 Kev Finhart

Well, it was like the Eagles just dominated that game and then immediately... And so are you worried about the play calling of Kellen Moore and the Philadelphia Eagles? I'm asking that because they were— You mean the fucking Bucs, when the Bucs just shit on their pants in the fourth quarter.

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77:35 - 77:38 PFT Commenter

Oh, congrats. Calm down. I'm trying to do a podcast here.

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77:38 - 77:45 Kev Finhart

I know, but the Eagles just dominated the game, and your media just— What do you think about the play calling? Not defensively.

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77:48 - 77:57 Big Cat

I'll tell you what, Max. I'm going to defend you here. We talked about the plate calling in the previous three games. I don't think you have any problem with the plate calling judging by this reaction. No, no problem with the plate calling.

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77:57 - 77:58 Kev Finhart

That's my answer.

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78:00 - 78:26 Big Cat

That sounded exactly like a guy who has no issues with the plate calling. He just went straight to the commanders. No, I mean, you guys, you dominated that game. It got like there was there was a little bit of a Chargers vibe in the first half where everything went perfect and you were only up 10, especially with like the fumble on the opening kickoff and a touchdown.

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78:27 - 78:46 Big Cat

Four plays later and you're like, oh, this is going to be easy. And then you struggled. The offense did struggle for the first half. Jalen Hurts looked like he was still concussed a little bit. But they made some big plays in the second half and it was never a doubt. You're right. The Packers never had the ball down one possession.

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78:47 - 78:55 Kev Finhart

Yeah, no, there was never like, oh, shit, this is a drive where we could give up the lead. And it's always a little bit more comfortable watching a game that way.

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78:55 - 78:56 Quick Interjection

Yeah.

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78:56 - 79:08 Kev Finhart

So I'm happy with the way that it turned out. If I'm being honest, there's one thing that I'm concerned about, and that's the kicker. Yeah. The kicker is a big issue.

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79:08 - 79:13 Guest

Yeah. Hank has a question. No, continue.

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79:13 - 79:15 Kev Finhart

I'm more interested in what you have to say.

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79:16 - 79:27 Guest

Loser talk question of the show. Because you just said they never had the ball down one possession. You said it was nice to watch. Kind of easy game. You tweeted in the middle of the game, we're going to lose this game.

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79:27 - 79:50 Kev Finhart

oh but yeah that's good yep that's fair yeah yeah that's investigative journalism by henry lockwood there thank you user talk correct but inside the lines i'm not accountable for what i say okay that's all the great ones say that you just can't you can't no no i yeah why did you think that because i am an anxious i am i think the world's you're a loser

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79:51 - 79:54 PFT Commenter

We won't. But that was you. What made you say that?

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79:54 - 80:03 Kev Finhart

Yeah. I think it was Jake Elliott. I think it was probably after the missed extra point because that's, like, such a thing that happens. Like, you miss an extra point and it comes back to bite you in the ass.

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80:03 - 80:13 PFT Commenter

Yeah. The injuries. Not great today. N'Kobe Dean. That's bad. That's the only injury, but it's really bad. Is Slay totally good? Slay came back in the game.

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80:14 - 80:19 Kev Finhart

Yeah, I know he came back in. I mean, I assume if he came back in the game, that he'll be playing next week.

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80:19 - 80:40 Big Cat

Yeah. I... In terms of Packers playoff losses, this one didn't scratch the itch as much because, like, one, I didn't think they were that good because they lost to the Bears, who are not good. So I was like, well, they're not very good. And then, two, every Packers player got injured. So that's – and I'm not saying, like –

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80:41 - 80:58 Big Cat

It's an excuse that I actually – I don't know if the Packers ever won that game, but they had a moment where their top three wide receivers weren't playing anymore and their best offensive linemen. So it's like I kind of got robbed of that feeling of like ha-ha because it was like, yeah, your whole team just got injured.

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80:58 - 81:04 PFT Commenter

Yeah, and then when they were driving with the ball, I think they threw a pass to their fifth string wide receiver who didn't put his feet inbound.

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81:04 - 81:12 Big Cat

Right. Yeah, that was kind of the moment where I was like, I really want to be enjoying this, but it's like – They don't have literally anyone left.

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81:12 - 81:20 PFT Commenter

Yeah, like if that was Romeo Dobbs that did that or if it was Christian Watson that did that, you'd be like, ha-ha, losers. Right. But now it's like this is kind of what you expect.

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81:20 - 81:35 Big Cat

Or if the Packers were healthy and they just barely lost, they're like, wow, we could have gone on a run. I think Packers fans probably were watching that game, watching everyone get hurt. They're like, if we have to play next week against the Lions, we're fucked. Yeah. They just were ripped apart with injuries.

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81:37 - 82:00 Big Cat

I do think Jordan Love is... For everyone who's like, oh, he's the next in line, I don't see it. He's good. His picks were pretty bad today. Yeah, he's not – he doesn't – I know he's still young. He's like 32 or something. But he's – and I know it's only his second year, but it's not like he's – he had a really awesome eight-game stretch last year. Got paid $55 million.

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82:02 - 82:17 Big Cat

He was okay this year through a lot of interceptions. He had a good stretch at the end of the season as well. But I don't think he's like some – do you guys agree? Like do you think he's – Right now, would you say Jordan Love's going to be a top three, top five quarterback?

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82:17 - 82:35 PFT Commenter

Because that's what Rodgers and Favre were. Yeah, here's what I would say. On the broadcast, when they're talking about the passing of the torch, and they say, first it was Favre, then it went to Rodgers, now it's on Love, I don't think that one of those three is like the other. Right. It's the dragon meme? Exactly. But I think he's a good quarterback.

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82:35 - 82:45 Big Cat

Yeah, and he could get better, and this could all look really stupid by me, but it's not... So far, I'm not like, holy shit, this guy's insane. I think he's a good quarterback. Yeah, he's a good quarterback.

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82:45 - 82:46 PFT Commenter

He's a good quarterback.

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82:46 - 83:06 Big Cat

He's following two Hall of Famers. And that's a great thing to have. Yeah. Also, as much as I want to relish in the Packers' losses, which I am very happy that you beat them, Max. Again, it was a little different this year because I think I said it two weeks ago where I was like, I don't think they're a problem anymore. They didn't beat any really good teams this year.

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83:07 - 83:22 Big Cat

They lost twice to the Vikings. They lost twice to the Lions. Pretty much lost twice to the Bears. Pretty much lost twice to the Bears. They were always like... They were just not in that... If we're going levels again, they were never in that upper level of the NFC. But they are...

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83:23 - 83:32 Big Cat

And it hurts me to say, they are the youngest roster in the NFL, and I do think knowing how the Packers run as an organization, they'll probably be really fucking good next year. And you've got a great head coach.

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83:32 - 83:37 PFT Commenter

Matt LaFleur is an awesome head coach. Yeah. And Josh Jacobs, great running back.

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83:38 - 83:39 Guest

I love watching that guy play.

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83:39 - 83:52 PFT Commenter

That was a big boy run. Love watching. There were a couple big boy runs in this game. Dallas Goddard. That one, at one point, Josh Jacobs dragged a defender, I think like five yards on the ground, who was grabbing on the back of his shirt, which somehow didn't rip. It just stretched for like five yards. Yeah.

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83:53 - 84:17 Big Cat

um that is that's a dude yeah i yeah like i want to i want to be happier with the injuries and the fact that the packers are so young like the end of rogers was fun because it was like he's he's getting older and older and older and the window's closing i i know how the packers run their organization i'm sure they're fucking gonna nail their draft picks and all their receivers are gonna end up being awesome and come back and it's gonna be like fuck

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84:17 - 84:20 Big Cat

Yeah. And everything I just said about Jordan Love is going to be wrong.

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84:21 - 84:26 PFT Commenter

Are they going to start drafting wide receivers in the first round all the time now for Jordan Love? That would be very funny. It would be.

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84:27 - 84:38 Big Cat

Just make him happy. I've seen some weird Matt LaFleur's should be fired. That's the dumbest thing ever. I actually think that Jordan Love, if you didn't have Matt LaFleur, would probably be struggling more.

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84:38 - 84:54 PFT Commenter

Yeah. Imagine Malik Willis without Matt LaFleur. Yeah. Exactly. Max, another question for you. AJ Green. Brown. AJ Brown. Different color. Reading a book on the sidelines. What book was it and why was he reading it?

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84:54 - 85:08 Kev Finhart

It was a motivational book. I will pull it up. I will pull up his tweet because he addressed it via X, the Everything app. Everything happens on X. He is the media. He is the media. I am struggling to find his Twitter. Twitter.

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85:13 - 85:38 Big Cat

what the fuck oh there it is this isn't it inner excellence achieve extraordinary business success through mental toughness and he says he reads it what are you looking for his quote about it way farther into a book than LeBron ever has been that's a fact right I'm enjoying Max

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85:39 - 85:41 Kev Finhart

I mean, why can't I find his fucking Twitter?

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85:41 - 85:59 Big Cat

This is bad. Memes, do you want to help him? It's 1K always open. Yeah, I know. Memes and Hank are... This is a fake one, though. I'm also enjoying it. It's a good thing that you're struggling this much because if... Would you like me to read it for you? Did you find it? I'd be worried if you weren't struggling this bad. I'd be like, man, this guy might be worried about Playcall.

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86:00 - 86:09 Big Cat

Yeah, that's a good point. But it's clear that you're not worried about play calling because you're not flustered at all through this whole Packers-Eagles recap. Got it.

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86:09 - 86:10 Quick Interjection

Okay, all right.

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86:13 - 86:31 Kev Finhart

You ready? Yeah. This game is 90% mental and 10% physical for me. I bring it to every game and I read it between each drive. I use it to refocus and lock in despite what may transpire in the game, good or bad. People tend to create controversy when they don't know the truth. Can I have a question?

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86:31 - 86:48 Big Cat

Question. When he said good or bad, which one do you think it was today? Good. They won the game. But do you think A.J. Brown was having a good time today? Yeah, they won. They won a playoff game. Okay. Do you think he was having a good time with the play calling?

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86:51 - 86:59 Kev Finhart

Yeah, no. He looks happy in this post-game interview. I don't know what he's saying. But he looks happy. He doesn't look mad. So, yeah, no, it was good.

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86:59 - 87:07 Big Cat

So, three targets for A.J. Brown. One catch, 10 yards. One win. Okay.

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87:09 - 87:10 PFT Commenter

Do you think it's always this book?

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87:13 - 87:19 Kev Finhart

It says that it's this book. I mean, this book, that doesn't look like a LeBron book. That's a well-worn book.

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87:19 - 87:38 Big Cat

Yeah, we need a book report from you on this. He also has highlighted passages, underlined passages. He really loves this book. But I'm just wondering if he had 100 yards and a touchdown and Kellen Moore was just calling a great game and all that stuff. Do you think he goes to the book? Yeah, no.

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87:38 - 87:47 Kev Finhart

Or do you think he high-fives? He probably goes to therapy. That's not what I asked. I don't know. I wasn't really paying attention. I was reading the quotes.

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87:47 - 88:00 Big Cat

All right, I'll ask the question again, and then maybe you can read the quote for us. If A.J. Brown had 100 yards and a touchdown and nine catches, do you think he's reading the book, or do you think he's having fun on the sideline?

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88:01 - 88:04 Kev Finhart

Well, I don't know if you heard what I said. He said transpire in the game, good or bad.

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88:04 - 88:07 Big Cat

Right, but he might have just put the word good in there and really meant bad.

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88:08 - 88:09 Kev Finhart

So you're calling him a liar?

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88:10 - 88:11 Big Cat

No, I'm just saying he might have.

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88:12 - 88:14 Kev Finhart

He also may not have.

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88:14 - 88:15 Big Cat

That's also true.

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88:16 - 88:16 Kev Finhart

Yeah.

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88:16 - 88:19 Big Cat

Everything's on the table right now when we're discussing this book. Correct. I have a question, Max.

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88:19 - 88:22 Kev Finhart

I'm going to take the man for his word. Okay.

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88:22 - 88:42 PFT Commenter

What's up, pit stain guy over there? Do you think the game is 90... Max never having pit stains. Come on, Max. Yeah, that was a bad... Come on, Max. Your ass crack is probably showing right now. Yeah. Not pit stains. Do you think 90% mental, 10% physical is a good breakdown? Um... For him, yes.

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88:42 - 88:44 Guest

That laugh means his ass is out.

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88:44 - 88:58 PFT Commenter

Yeah, his ass is out for sure. He's just watching it. I got a chair. I'm not sure that the whole physical put together in this thing is the battle you want to pick with anybody, Max, because, yeah, your butt gets a lot of screen time.

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89:00 - 89:02 Kev Finhart

You can't even see it. I got to back to this chair.

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89:03 - 89:11 PFT Commenter

Would you like, in a game like this, where he is limited, how many catches did he have? He had one catch, three targets. Would you rather he maybe cranks it up to 15% physical?

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89:17 - 89:18 Kev Finhart

We won the game.

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89:18 - 89:26 Big Cat

You did win the game. So looking ahead, besides your issues with the play calling, what do you need to fix going into next week?

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89:29 - 89:40 Kev Finhart

Jalen Hurts will be less rusty, so just getting more reps in practice this week will be good. I agree with that. We'll have one extra day of practice that our opponent will not have. That'll be helpful.

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89:40 - 89:45 Big Cat

What if Jalen Hurts was so bad, they were just going to put him back in the protocol?

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89:46 - 90:03 Kev Finhart

He wasn't that bad. I mean, he wasn't good. 111 quarterback rating. You would die for that in a playoff game. Yeah. But he wasn't like. Threw two touchdowns. Okay. Won the game. When we needed to ice the game, he led a great drive that finished with a Dallas Goddard touchdown.

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90:04 - 90:08 PFT Commenter

Okay. All right. So, Max, who do you want? Vikings or the Rams? Good question.

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90:10 - 90:11 Kev Finhart

That is a good question.

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90:11 - 90:12 Big Cat

Call someone out.

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90:15 - 90:25 Kev Finhart

You know what? You've got to be good teams. No, no, don't cop it out. No, but if I were to answer that question, that's what you would say. Just tell us which team you want.

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90:25 - 90:31 Guest

You can lead with that. Yeah, I want you to be honest. You'll play whoever wins. But gun to my head.

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90:31 - 90:44 Kev Finhart

But gun to my head, if you had to tell me that I had to pick a team, I would pick the Rams. Really? We handled the Rams in that first game. Their defense could not stop with a run. Saquon won for like 250. Oh, that's right. I forgot about that.

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90:44 - 90:47 PFT Commenter

And the Rams' offenses look bad. I don't know how they're going to be tonight.

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90:47 - 90:51 Kev Finhart

And they would have to travel from L.A. to Philly in the cold.

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90:51 - 90:54 Big Cat

Well, actually, they'd travel Arizona to L.A. to Philly.

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90:54 - 90:54 Kev Finhart

True.

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90:55 - 90:55 Big Cat

Yeah.

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90:56 - 91:08 Kev Finhart

I don't think the Rams are going to win tomorrow, but I think that given my thought process, I would say that I would like, I don't know where I'm going.

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91:08 - 91:19 Big Cat

I'm just saying words. He's happy with the play call. Who knew that a simple question of are you happy with the play calling would just lead us to whatever's happened in the last 15 minutes.

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91:19 - 91:21 Kev Finhart

No, it was condescending. It's a question.

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91:21 - 91:28 PFT Commenter

It's so my job as a member of the media to ask those tough questions, Max. It's so clear you're upset about the play calling. Just say it.

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91:28 - 91:41 Kev Finhart

I'm happy with a win. And you can go back, look at the tape, and learn from things. Everything is a learning experience. And we will learn from this and be better for next week.

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91:41 - 91:42 PFT Commenter

Okay.

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91:42 - 91:42 Kev Finhart

I appreciate that.

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91:42 - 91:44 Big Cat

Well, thank you for beating the Packers.

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91:44 - 91:47 Kev Finhart

And Jalen Hurts will be less rusty. Yes.

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91:47 - 91:49 Big Cat

Thank you for beating the Packers. Packers 0-2. No. No.

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91:52 - 91:55 PFT Commenter

Those are two separate things. Oh, okay. What would you grade the Packers season?

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91:56 - 92:03 Kev Finhart

I would say a B. No way. Way worse than that. People were picking them for the Super Bowl.

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92:03 - 92:11 PFT Commenter

They were. Oh, Schrager. Oh, yeah. RIP to the Schrager streak. They kind of got dealt a bad hand, though, with the injuries.

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92:12 - 92:13 Quick Interjection

Yeah, but Willie Quillis won games.

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92:14 - 92:23 PFT Commenter

Okay, so if you're looking at it just straight up grade as a whole the outcome of the season, yeah, definitely worse than a B. I'm saying B given what they were dealing with today.

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92:23 - 92:45 Big Cat

I'd say overall... It's probably a B because they are the youngest roster. C plus. They're the youngest roster in the NFL. It's like... What would you grade it under like a regular, if you laid it all out and you didn't say this is the Green Bay Packers? I think Packers fans are different because they're used to winning playoff games and that kind of thing. So they grade it differently.

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92:46 - 93:12 Big Cat

But if you laid out all the facts, took the logo off the helmet, you'd probably say B. Say B minus C plus. They're going to fucking be good next year. I just know it. I just know it. They always just draft someone who's just like, how'd this guy get good? And it's just like, oh, and Jaden Reed's going to be the best receiver somehow. Well, Christian Watson, I think, is ACL. But I just know it.

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93:12 - 93:19 Big Cat

And Josh Jacobs is good. Very good. Really, really good. But Jordan Love's not good. I think he's good. Go to bed thinking that. No, he's not.

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93:19 - 93:34 Kev Finhart

Max, you back me up. That pick to Zach Bond was horrific. Horrific. It was a, I don't know. Egregious. How do you just not see the guy right in the middle of your vision? Yeah, I don't know.

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93:34 - 93:42 Big Cat

He just threw it right to him. When he doesn't run RPOs and play actions, he's not like as a straight up pocket passer. I just don't, I haven't been overly impressed.

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93:43 - 93:54 PFT Commenter

Also, shout out to Philly for having the sax guy playing the national anthem. Oh, my God. Vanya Sax? Vanya Sax. Vanya Sax. That guy. That guy can get it. That was incredible. That sounds sexual.

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93:54 - 93:58 Big Cat

No, I mean, that's fine. The saxophone is the most sexual instrument by far.

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93:58 - 94:02 Guest

And they just let Gilly come out with the team. Yeah. Those videos are so funny.

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94:02 - 94:13 Big Cat

And the bald eagle. Oh, what a scene. Yeah, Max is replaying it. That was a really bad interception. You can't throw that one. All right. You guys didn't score off that, though.

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94:17 - 94:18 Kev Finhart

Oh, that. Wait, no.

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94:19 - 94:26 Big Cat

Is that the end of the second quarter? Because halftime was 10-0. Oh, yeah. Why didn't you score? Was it the play calling?

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94:29 - 94:34 Kev Finhart

No. It was unrelated to the play calls. It was just a bad play.

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94:34 - 94:36 Big Cat

What were the play calls after that?

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94:38 - 94:42 Kev Finhart

It was incomplete, incomplete. Penalty. Penalty.

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94:42 - 94:46 Big Cat

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a penalty. It was a penalty. You can't have penalties. But first down, incomplete.

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94:47 - 94:47 PFT Commenter

Yeah.

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94:47 - 94:51 Big Cat

Second down, incomplete. Well, it looks like the penalty came on fourth and four, so that actually didn't matter.

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94:51 - 94:57 PFT Commenter

Yeah. No, penalty. And you remember how good, like, the push the offensive line was getting for the running game? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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94:58 - 95:17 Big Cat

Oh, my God. Elton Jenkins going out for the Packers. Again, they robbed me of everything because they just got it. The guy who came in, how many holes did he end up having? It was just every drive. He was just getting killed. Okay. PFT, you want to do a couple more ads, and we'll get to the big game Sunday night football and your win.

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95:18 - 95:32 PFT Commenter

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97:17 - 97:21 Big Cat

Okay, PFT. Yep. Commanders 23, bucks 20.

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97:23 - 97:29 PFT Commenter

What a fucking game. A crazy game. Every Commander's game is like this. Every single one comes down to the end.

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97:29 - 97:54 Big Cat

I was going to actually ask you this. We talk a lot about the Chiefs' voodoo. Yeah. The Commanders have the most voodoo, and it's a good thing. They just have, like... I don't want to say Team of Destiny, but... I watching that game, especially the we'll break down the whole game. But like when the Bucks kicked a field goal to tie it 20 to 20 and there was four and a half minutes left.

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97:54 - 98:04 Big Cat

And this is part voodoo and part the fact that Jaden Daniels is just fucking awesome. I turned to Jersey Jerry who was sitting next to me. I said, Bucs aren't getting the ball back. Yeah. And that's exactly what happened.

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98:04 - 98:24 PFT Commenter

That's what we do. We had like a 17-play drive in the first or second quarter. Yeah. We didn't punt again today. Yeah. Because when it comes to fourth down, we either get fourth downs or we go for it and we don't convert them. And then we find ourselves like one minute later back in that same exact fourth down situation. And there's something about coaches named Dan.

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98:24 - 98:39 PFT Commenter

that are just like, fuck it, we're going to go for it. If it's Dan Quinn, if it's Dan Campbell, Dan Lanning did that this year too, where you just get ultra aggressive. But I didn't have a problem, even when it didn't work out, that Dan Quinn kept going for it, because that's what we've done all year.

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98:39 - 98:50 Big Cat

And we've said it a million times with the Dan Campbell stuff, consistency. If he had pussied out and kicked a field goal on the second one, you'd be like, dude, you can't go for it, go for it, go for it, and then kick it.

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98:51 - 99:09 PFT Commenter

Keep going for it, and something good will happen. Yeah, you go for it. You don't get it. You pin them deep, and then if you get a turnover, you're at least deep in their territory. But, yeah, it's like they pushed everything to the limit of how close they could make this game. And there's something about Jaden. He does not show emotion. Sometimes he smiles during play.

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99:09 - 99:28 PFT Commenter

Yeah, I was going to say, his only emotion is happiness. But usually, he just doesn't have any emotion whatsoever. Yeah. If you see the clip of him reacting to the game-winning field goal at the end of this game, He's on the sidelines, and he doesn't even smile. He just sits there, and it doinks in, and then he gets up, and then five seconds after it goes in, he starts dapping people up.

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99:29 - 99:43 PFT Commenter

But the dude, he's like, they say that Joe Burrow, his high school basketball coach, told his parents, you're lucky that he loves sports, because if he didn't, you might have a Dexter on your hands. Yeah. He might actually be a killer. Yeah.

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99:44 - 100:09 PFT Commenter

uh jayden is kind of the same way during a game he just he he never gets too excited never get the moment's never too big for jayden which is crazy to say as a rookie but he is he's going to be him and who he is is just fucking awesome yeah so watch this clip here it doinks in he's just like okay cool We won the game. Yeah, nice. We won.

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100:10 - 100:27 PFT Commenter

So the Chiefs thing, which is my favorite team plays today, I'm going to kill myself. Oh, nice, we won. I had memes whip up a Commander's version, and the Commander's version is like in the middle. It's just this game is really close. Holy shit, Jane Daniels is good. And then at the end, nice, we won. He's going to do something awesome, and we're going to win this game.

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100:27 - 100:35 PFT Commenter

Somehow this happens every week. Again, it goes back to the question of are the Commanders a good team? I still don't know how good we are.

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100:35 - 100:37 Big Cat

I think Jaden Daniels is a good team. I think he's a good team.

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100:37 - 100:41 PFT Commenter

I think Jaden Daniels is the best team I've ever rooted for in my life.

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100:41 - 101:03 Big Cat

He's a really good team. It was... I mean, the fact... Let's just... The elf in the room. The doink in just was so appropriate for where the Bears stand and where the Commanders stand as two franchises that it had to be a doink in. But... Who doinks to kick in? I... I was just sitting there like, I can't believe that you got the doink in.

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101:04 - 101:27 Big Cat

But Jayden Daniels is just – like, watching it, I never – when they got the ball back with four and a half minutes, it's like, he's going to drive them down the field and they're going to win this game with a walk-off field goal. I said it to Jerry. I said it in my head. The fourth and one play where he was dead to rights – and he finds a way to get that first down, he's just special.

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101:27 - 101:38 Big Cat

I don't know what else to say. He's special, and I think his specialness rubs off on the entire team where it's like maybe they're not the most talented group, but when you've got a guy like that, your confidence gets to a different level.

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101:39 - 102:00 PFT Commenter

Yeah, and you know the inches that are all around us? Yeah. He gets those inches. Jaden Daniels leads the league in inches all around him that he acquires. Yeah. And there's... Every time something like this happens, I still have a part of my brain that has to think, if Dan Snyder was still the owner, there's no chance that ball bounces in. Right. Bounces in.

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102:00 - 102:27 PFT Commenter

And something interesting about the Commander's playoff history. So this is their first playoff win in 19 years since 2006, January 26. Against the Bucs, right? Against the Bucs. The previous playoff game before that, I believe, was 1999, and it was also against the Bucs. And that was Dan Snyder's first playoff game as owner. We're down 14-13, kicking a field goal at the end of the fourth quarter.

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102:28 - 102:52 PFT Commenter

Botched the snap. Everything goes to shit. Game over. And this... Josh Harris' first game as owner, the ball bounces off the upright and somehow goes in. There's been good vibes around this team all season long where just the smallest shit tends to break our way when we need it the most. And I don't know. I don't know how else to explain it. I'm so happy getting to watch Jaden Daniels.

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102:53 - 103:17 PFT Commenter

And also Terry McLaurin, another great game for him. And our defense, we just stepped up and now we're like a medium defense team. Marshawn Lattimore got cooked. You got to get medium plus. We do get medium plus. A lot of places don't say medium plus exists. Marshawn Lattimore got cooked in the first half by Mike Evans. But still, I think he was held under 100 yards somehow.

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103:17 - 103:24 PFT Commenter

But this team, there's just something about them that I love watching. I don't know if they're good, but they're great.

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103:24 - 103:45 Big Cat

No, it's Jaden Daniels. Yeah. The new owner thing, obviously, I want a new owner so bad, basically on all the teams, but Jaden Daniels is that guy. He's the guy that I really do believe in sports. If you have a guy like Jaden Daniels, everyone plays a little bit better. Everyone plays a little bit better than their talent level.

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103:46 - 104:01 Big Cat

because of him you think you can win right and you think you you you you're thinking the same thing i was thinking where it's like they're gonna they're gonna win this game they're gonna go down the field they're gonna win this game i felt good about the game from the very first drive that we had and even on defense when we held him to a field goal right off the bat

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104:02 - 104:16 PFT Commenter

But then we got the ball in our hands, and we were moving the ball, and it was like this is exactly how I saw it playing out, which is Todd Bowles is going to try to blitz a lot, and Jaden is a different quarterback than who we saw in week one. He's more decisive. He's going to be able to take off and run when he has to.

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104:17 - 104:25 PFT Commenter

But also, more importantly, he's going to hit guys in the middle of the field when he has to. He played a great game. Our running game was virtually non-existent.

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104:25 - 104:26 Quick Interjection

Oh, getting stuffed every time.

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104:26 - 104:41 PFT Commenter

Vitave is just a mountain of a human being. He's one of my favorite players. He's great. We kept trying to run it up the middle. Brian Robinson is the last person that you should be asking to run against defense like that because he hates bouncing to the outside. Yeah.

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104:41 - 104:52 PFT Commenter

Brian Robinson, if he gets the ball, he wants to run at somebody's face and run him over for two, three extra yards and soften him up over the course of a game. You're not going to soften Vitave up. No. He's untenderizable.

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104:53 - 105:09 Big Cat

Yeah. This is the point of the program. I'm very happy for you, PFD. That was an awesome game. The doink in, incredible. Jaden Daniels, he is that guy. This is the part of the program, though, where Max tells you... All the stuff... Yeah, if Baker Mayfield doesn't fumble a snap, that game is over.

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105:09 - 105:14 PFT Commenter

I was going to lead off by saying he didn't throw any interceptions, so I don't know what I'm supposed to talk about right off the jump.

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105:14 - 105:38 Kev Finhart

Well, the center also just snapped the ball way too... You had three plays that just... I was really going off its team of destinies. I'd rather be lucky than good. Yeah, no. There's a voodoo. What Big Cat said is exactly what I was thinking. Right. It's a good voodoo. Everything just goes the Commander's way. And trust me, I am the biggest Commander's fan this weekend. Yeah.

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105:39 - 105:40 Kev Finhart

I want the Commander's to win.

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105:40 - 105:46 PFT Commenter

Yeah. I can't have Max. Max, you can't do that. Oh, an NFC championship with the Eagles? Why?

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105:46 - 105:50 Kev Finhart

What, you're rooting against my friend Jerry Goff? Yeah, he sounds like he is. I'm rooting for my friend PFT.

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105:50 - 105:59 PFT Commenter

No. No, but I can't have Max's stink on this team. Too bad. I ban you from cheering for the Commanders.

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105:59 - 106:02 Kev Finhart

Would I rather go to Detroit or have the Commanders come to Philly?

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106:03 - 106:06 Quick Interjection

I thought you play whoever you play. Would I rather go to Detroit?

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106:07 - 106:18 Kev Finhart

You got to beat good teams. You got to beat playoff teams. Do not care about our friend, Jared. I care about my friend, PFT. You don't care about me, and that's fine. And Dan Quinn. Yeah. Friend of the program.

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106:18 - 106:29 Big Cat

Yeah. What about Dan Campbell? Friend of the program. I care about him too. Amon Ross St. Brown. Yep. Friend of the program. Dan Quinn. Detroit Don and super fan. So friends of the program.

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106:29 - 106:53 PFT Commenter

Max, we, we, we did get some breaks today. They got some breaks too. It happens. But also if, okay, if they fumble a snap and they don't get a third down conversion and then guess what? You still have to go win the game. No, I... Like, we're good enough to... Here's where we're at. We're not a great team. We're good enough, and Jaden is good enough to take advantage of every mistake.

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106:53 - 106:56 PFT Commenter

If you give him a window, he will find a way to win a game at the end.

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106:57 - 107:00 Kev Finhart

Jaden Daniels is good as fuck. Like, really, really good.

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107:00 - 107:23 Big Cat

Good as fuck. Yeah, the Bucs... The commanders were better than the Bucs today, and the Bucs, there's two things. One, Todd Bowles, I don't know what happens in his brain, but he somehow fucked up the clock on the end of the first half and the end of the game. The end of the first half didn't end up mattering because they scored a touchdown, but that guy's brain just freezes, and then you have...

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107:24 - 107:48 Big Cat

I don't know the third best quarterback statistically this season. It's just talking statistics. So not, not doing a debate on like, you know, but like Lamar, Josh Baker, those three, Sam Donald, maybe. So four top four statistical season this year, borough, borough, fuck five. All right, fuck five. Baker had an incredible years where I'm trying to say he threw the ball 18 times.

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107:50 - 108:08 Big Cat

I don't understand what they were doing. And it was partly because the commanders did a great job of keeping the ball out of the Bucs' hands. The commanders had the ball for 35 minutes. But I don't understand how he's not throwing the ball more than that. Bucky was also running with the ball pretty well. He was, but Baker's your guy. Like, that's your guy. That's your dog.

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108:08 - 108:18 Big Cat

I know he had some runs, too, so there's probably more pass plays called. But Todd Bowles, he freezes. I don't know what the fuck goes on with him.

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108:18 - 108:22 PFT Commenter

Did you hear his speech or his interview that he gave out of halftime?

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108:22 - 108:23 Big Cat

No. Can we play that?

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108:23 - 108:33 PFT Commenter

Was it just as uninspiring as I imagined it to be? He got so confused. I forgot which was left and which was right. Yeah. Like, listen to his explanation here.

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108:34 - 108:42 Unknown Speaker

This guy's just panicked. What side was he telling his defense? Our left. Their left. No, but his left. Their left. He said his left. Our left.

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108:54 - 108:55 PFT Commenter

He doesn't know left from right.

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108:55 - 109:00 Big Cat

He's just, I mean, he was so lost with the timeout situation.

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109:01 - 109:08 PFT Commenter

He had no idea what to do. What he did at the end of the first half was one of the more puzzling things I've ever seen. Yeah. How many seconds did he waste?

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109:08 - 109:22 Big Cat

It was like 17 seconds. He was just like, fuck it. Then we'll call a timeout. I mean, again, this was the commander's win. It was a special night for the commanders. But Todd Bowles, like, what are you doing, dude? He just can't be in those pressure moments.

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109:22 - 109:23 Guest

Yeah.

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109:23 - 109:38 Big Cat

And that's, I mean, the Bucs. What do we grade their season? I would say... They did have both their cornerbacks get hurt. Well, I think one was hurt going into the game, then the other one got hurt. But you guys also had some injuries on cornerback, right?

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109:39 - 110:01 PFT Commenter

So, yeah. We're a little bit banged up. Marshawn Lattimore's injured, obviously. Yeah. I hope he's injured, because otherwise it's not a very good performance out of a healthy Marshawn Lattimore, given what we're paying him. But... I would give the Bucs a B. You won your division. Baker's awesome. Baker's awesome. That's really what it is. Like, Baker's awesome. Yeah. What?

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110:02 - 110:06 Kev Finhart

I think PFT is just the teacher that just gives everybody a B. No, I gave the Chargers an A-.

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110:07 - 110:14 PFT Commenter

I gave the Broncos an A. Recency bias. Yeah, wait. So those are two A grades out of four that I've given up.

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110:14 - 110:18 Kev Finhart

I know. I was just thinking of the last one, the Packers. I mean, the Packers didn't get it.

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110:19 - 110:24 PFT Commenter

Why are you so angry with me today, Max? Because he's a real Commanders fan.

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110:25 - 110:29 Big Cat

Yeah. That's also not coming out of... He's in playoff mode.

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110:29 - 110:30 PFT Commenter

Yeah, that's true.

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110:30 - 110:32 Big Cat

He's in playoff mode. He's in survival mode.

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110:32 - 110:52 PFT Commenter

See, I fucking love the Commanders, and I love Jaden Daniels, and this season has been an incredible gift, and I'm so excited about what's coming next. Next week... Let's not talk about next week right now. How about that? You should not think about the Lions until Thursday. Not going to think about the Lions. Just enjoy this win. There's no reason to think about the Lions.

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110:52 - 110:57 PFT Commenter

We're playing Team X next week. Yeah. Who knows? Maybe their offense is bad. Who knows?

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110:57 - 111:18 Big Cat

Nothing to lose. Here's the thing, PFT. You don't think about the Lions. Can I talk a little bit about it real quick? Yeah. You don't have to think about it. I won't. The Lions are a way better team than the Commanders. Do you know who the Lions don't have? Jane Daniels. And something happens where, I mean, they did a montage in the game of like crazy moments.

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111:18 - 111:37 PFT Commenter

Yeah. And there have been some fucking crazy ones. The Bears game, obviously. The Cowboys game, which wasn't even him. He was on the sidelines in the second half cheering on Marcus Mariota. Yeah. The Eagles game when he came back against that really, really good defense that the Eagles have. Yeah. And just shredded him. The Saints game. The Saints game and the Falcons game.

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111:39 - 111:45 PFT Commenter

It always comes down to the last minute with this guy. If we can get to the last minute against the Lions, I will be a very, very happy man.

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111:45 - 111:46 Big Cat

Just get to the last minute.

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111:46 - 111:55 PFT Commenter

Shock the world. Shock the world. Shock the world. Max is rooting for you. Thank you, Max. That means a lot. Let's go commies. Let's go commies. Left hand up, Max. Yep.

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111:55 - 112:00 Big Cat

I'm rooting for you because I would love to see Eagles, Commanders, and a championship game. That would be numbers.

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112:00 - 112:10 Guest

You guys taught me when the Patriots played the Rams. Yeah. It's not right to root against our friend Jared Goff, so I'm gonna root for the Lions Based off what you guys said to me. You have the commanders.

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112:10 - 112:26 PFT Commenter

I don't even remember what you're talking about Hank is all over the map with it. You know what your problem is Hank you have like conflicting allegiances due to your troll brain and your vet brain and sometimes Sometimes they fight.

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112:26 - 112:27 Guest

I'm not worried about that.

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112:27 - 112:29 PFT Commenter

They might not but Jade and Daniels might.

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112:29 - 112:40 Big Cat

Yeah. They might just give him the Lombardi. Yeah. It's Lions versus Ravens. And they're like, before we give this to the winner, Jay Daniels, please come on down.

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112:40 - 113:02 PFT Commenter

I would take it. He is the first rookie quarterback to win in the playoffs on the road since 2012, Russell Wilson. Don't ask who he played or where he played. And before that was Mark Sanchez. Before that, Joe Flacco. And then before that, all the way back to 1976, Pat Hayden. So I'm going to say it. I'm going to stamp my grade on the commander season already. A plus. A plus plus. A plus plus.

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113:02 - 113:05 Big Cat

You won a playoff game with a rookie quarterback.

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113:05 - 113:16 Kev Finhart

Don't put a grade on it yet. It's still going. Yeah, it's still going. Yeah, but can it get higher? Let's go win this weekend. Let's do it, Max. Give him a pump-up speech.

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113:16 - 113:26 PFT Commenter

Let's go, yeah. Did you see that play at the end where Cancy tried to tackle Jaden from behind and grabbed his towel and then just kept sprinting towards Jaden with Jaden's full towel in his hand?

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113:28 - 113:49 Big Cat

Yeah, that was, I mean, that play was, he was, Cancy had him. And then he just didn't. He was playing flag football with him. He was just running with his towel behind him. He should have dropped the towel where he tackled. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy. And the doink in, I can't believe it. By the way, Zane Gonzalez does have OCD, so don't make fun of him.

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113:49 - 113:50 PFT Commenter

He does, but that's his superpower.

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113:51 - 113:53 Big Cat

Yeah, he fixed his hair a hundred times getting ready for the kick.

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113:53 - 114:03 PFT Commenter

And it's like the shortest hair ever. So when he kept fixing it, I was like, is there a bug on there? But he actually does have OCD. And his compulsion is that he has to split the uprights. Yeah. Or at least bounce off the inside of one of them.

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114:03 - 114:18 Big Cat

He's got to doink them in. I can't believe it doinked in. Did you think for a second it was not good when they hit it? Yes. I did, too. I was like, oh, shit. I needed overtime for basically... I mean, we should talk about it, Hank. That was... We all bet it.

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114:18 - 114:22 Guest

Yeah, we had the PMT. Me and PMT did the parlay that...

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114:23 - 114:49 Guest

jayden daniels he we needed 40 rushing yards from him on that last scramble he also had like 25 in the first quarter yeah on that last scramble play he got the 40 yards that was it last leg and then he took the centering snap kneeled it down so we went from cashing it to losing it all the wls i took it i'm sorry yeah i'm i feel it worse than you do So I was rooting for overtime.

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114:49 - 114:53 Big Cat

Yeah, I was too because I had the over for a lot. I was rooting hard for overtime.

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114:53 - 115:01 PFT Commenter

And very clearly so that everyone can hear it, when people get mad at Big Cat and Hank and they're like, why aren't you happier for PFT?

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115:02 - 115:25 PFT Commenter

i don't need them to be happy for me that's that's not your job to be happy that's not your team that you're rooting for like i understand like okay it's cool if your friend did something whatever yeah i'm happy for you right now but if it comes to like if you have a bet yeah that's on the line you're gonna root for that bet and i would root for that bet in your in your position every single time also it would be the weirdest thing ever if hank and i celebrated with pft like like we were like

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115:25 - 115:34 Big Cat

Oh, we did it. You did it. Yeah. That would be bizarre. I always root for the commander. Especially when you have your parlay and my nuke on the over, which was brutal.

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115:35 - 115:40 PFT Commenter

Well, you know what? We are genuinely super, super upset whenever Max loses. That's true.

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115:41 - 115:42 Big Cat

I am always upset for Max.

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115:42 - 115:59 PFT Commenter

Actually, you know what? Max has almost gotten to the point where now I would be happy for Max. No, I was thinking about this. I said the word almost very clearly. Yes. I agree with that. Almost. I missed the almost. It's close. We're getting dangerously close to me being happy for Max with a win.

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115:59 - 116:12 Big Cat

I was thinking about that the other day because I was like, if the Eagles go to the Super Bowl, I actually put it... Hank has money on the Eagles to win the Super Bowl. I do as well. The... Hank's just all over the map.

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116:12 - 116:16 PFT Commenter

Yeah, he's got other bills, too. Yeah, the only team Hank... This is where the troll brain comes in.

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116:16 - 116:33 Guest

The only team Hank didn't have a future on was the Chargers. No, no, no. I have $100 on the Commanders from, like, the beginning of the season. When I went on a heater two weeks ago, I have five grand... It's the biggest bet I ever placed on the Eagles. Okay. And then I have, like, some other futures that are, like, bills to win the conference and Eagles to win the conference. But, like...

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116:34 - 116:43 Guest

The Eagles' future is the biggest bet I think I've ever made. Should we all just declare our... And if they just make it to the fucking Super Bowl, I'm cashing out. I'll say that right now. Should we all declare... Because after I bet it, I hated it.

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116:44 - 116:47 PFT Commenter

Our gambling allegiances? Yeah. Get them out in the open?

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116:47 - 116:55 Guest

I have... Anyone but the Chiefs. What if they play the Chiefs? Will you keep it? Yeah. I don't know. I have said... I hate you so much.

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116:55 - 117:06 Big Cat

I had... I had the Chargers. Obviously dead. I have... Apologies. I have... No apologies because you flip-flopped.

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117:07 - 117:08 Guest

I know. You did flip-flop. I did flip-flop.

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117:09 - 117:31 Big Cat

And I have an Ohio State to win the national title and the Eagles to win the Super Bowl parlay that's like 12 to 1. That would be a significant hit. If anyone has an idea of who I should bet on to win NCAA Basketball Player of the Year, let me know. I would like to place a bet on someone.

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117:32 - 117:34 Kev Finhart

Eric Dixon is really underrated.

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117:34 - 117:34 Big Cat

From where?

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117:34 - 117:35 Kev Finhart

From Villanova.

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117:35 - 117:36 Big Cat

Oh, no way.

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117:36 - 117:42 Kev Finhart

I would not. No. No. Is he really good? He's awesome. Leads the country in scoring.

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117:42 - 117:43 Big Cat

In scoring?

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117:43 - 117:44 Kev Finhart

They just beat UConn.

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117:44 - 117:51 Big Cat

They just beat UConn? Wait, he leads the country in scoring? Yep. I'm not going to bet on that guy. But tell me more about how good he is.

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117:51 - 117:58 Kev Finhart

He's so good. He is so good. And it's just Villanova's coming on strong, too, at the right time. We don't have to talk about what happened this weekend.

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117:58 - 117:59 PFT Commenter

It's football season, Max.

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117:59 - 118:03 Kev Finhart

But they're trending in the right direction. So, like, really, really looking.

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118:03 - 118:03 Big Cat

What's his name?

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118:03 - 118:05 Kev Finhart

Eric Dixon from Villanova.

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118:05 - 118:11 Big Cat

And he could be the best. He is. Like the Heisman for college basketball?

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118:12 - 118:12 Kev Finhart

Yes.

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118:13 - 118:13 Big Cat

How's that voted on?

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118:14 - 118:17 Kev Finhart

It's the best player in the country, and he is the best player.

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118:17 - 118:24 Big Cat

I don't think I'm going to bet on that, but I would like an update every show on how he's doing, if he's doing well.

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118:25 - 118:32 Guest

I also have Celtics, Barcelona, and Eagles future. I'm just going to get that out there. I'm just going to get that on there.

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118:32 - 118:35 PFT Commenter

All right, fine. We'll empty the clip. Okay, I've got the Buffalo Bills.

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118:36 - 118:38 Guest

Also Lions and Hideki Matsuyama to win the match.

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118:38 - 118:50 PFT Commenter

What? I've got the Buffalo Bills, Lamar Jackson, and then Manchester United to be relegated. But that money goes to Chief, which could be worth $10,000. And then the Washington Capitals to win the Stanley Cup.

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119:12 - 119:12

Still pending.

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119:12 - 119:19 Big Cat

And then I have UConn in basketball, 19-1. That's just a respect. Respect. I won it the last two years. I had to do it again.

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119:20 - 119:32 PFT Commenter

Here's a fun stat real quick. This is from Optus Stats. In NFL history, there have been three instances of a team having zero turnovers and zero punts in a game behind a rookie starting quarterback.

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119:32 - 119:32 Quick Interjection

Whoa.

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119:34 - 119:38 PFT Commenter

All three were by Jaden Daniels and the Commanders. Week two, week three, and tonight.

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119:39 - 119:40 Big Cat

Damn.

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119:40 - 119:42 PFT Commenter

That's fucking insane. That is insane. I love this guy.

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119:43 - 119:43 Big Cat

That is insane.

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119:43 - 119:48 PFT Commenter

I love him so much. Max, what were you going to say? He's so good. He turned it over on downs twice. Oh.

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119:48 - 119:50 Kev Finhart

That doesn't count. It's not a quarterback turn.

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119:50 - 119:51 Big Cat

And mention the Baker fumble.

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119:53 - 119:55 Kev Finhart

Well, I didn't say that. That has nothing to do with that stat.

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119:56 - 119:58 Big Cat

Oh, you're specifically talking about this stat.

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119:59 - 120:16 PFT Commenter

Correct. Okay, well, hey, Max, how about this? If we kicked field goals every time on fourth down, then that Baker fumble doesn't really mean anything. But you didn't, and then you failed. Yeah, but you're taking away turnovers for the Bucs, but not taking away turnovers for the Commanders. They were just unforced errors.

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120:17 - 120:29 Kev Finhart

We won the game. No, the Commanders deserve to win that game. All I wanted to say was that the Commanders have some weird voodoo going on. They do. That things break their way at the end of games.

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120:30 - 120:30 Unknown Speaker

Which is good.

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120:30 - 120:40 Kev Finhart

That isn't a... That isn't like an insult to the commanders. I would love a team for that to be my team.

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120:40 - 121:00 PFT Commenter

That's a good thing. You're right that we do have that, and Adam Peters gets a lot of credit, too, for the just complete roster turnaround that's happened. Just all new guys. Dan Quinn's done a great job. I'm the happiest I can remember being as a football fan maybe ever. Maybe ever. If we're talking about arrows, if we're doing the arrow game.

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121:00 - 121:02 Big Cat

Yeah, this has got to be better than RG3 now.

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121:03 - 121:09 PFT Commenter

Yeah, I mean, the wild card game that year. Yeah, it was as disastrous as it could.

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121:09 - 121:17 Big Cat

Yeah, right. See, this was like the final. Yeah. Jaden Daniels has to. Actually, holy shit, that fucking low hit on Jaden Daniels.

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121:19 - 121:42 PFT Commenter

That looked bad. Che and I agreed to turn injuries off at the start of this game. And this is now two games, not two games in a row because the Falcons game and then this one where his knee bends and you're like, fuck, this is it. And then he just stands up. Yeah. He's just like not injured. But yeah, this is way better than 2005 because we had Mark Brunel who was like 46 years old.

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121:49 - 122:06 Big Cat

Yeah, I mean, it was an incredible game. Jaden Daniels, he's special. Do you guys want to do, let's do two more ads and we want to try to figure out who's going to win Vikings, Rams, and also we'll talk a little Texas, Ohio State, because that happened on Friday night.

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122:07 - 122:30 PFT Commenter

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122:31 - 122:49 PFT Commenter

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124:48 - 124:59 Big Cat

Okay. Who do we think is going to win Monday Night Football? I don't know. Anyone got an idea? I do think it's like the fact they're playing in Arizona is weird. Go ahead.

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125:00 - 125:15 PFT Commenter

I think. I think the Vikings should win, but I also think that Sean McVay. And that's the end of that sentence. And Sam Darnold, I'm a little nervous. I just think Sean McVay, I would not bet against him in the playoffs.

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125:15 - 125:26 Guest

Yeah. With all the obviously super tragic stuff going on in L.A., do you think it is more Team of Destiny vibes or distraction vibes that's going to affect them negatively?

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125:26 - 125:40 Big Cat

Well, PFT said it last week when he was like, why didn't the Rams try to win that game to get a better seed? And he was like, what's up with that? And Sean McVay has done that before. I think that's the year they won the Super Bowl. Yeah. I feel like he knows –

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125:42 - 126:05 PFT Commenter

he like he's got a good team yeah i think he knows something he knows something because on paper you should have tried to win that win horse win horse why did he do that why did he do why did he feel so confident rolling jimmy garoppolo out there it's because he he knew either one that resting his guys was more important than whoever they played yeah or because he sees some weird voodoo matchup hmm

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126:06 - 126:12 Big Cat

Yeah, I have no idea with this game. I feel like whatever side I'm going to bet is going to be wrong. And I also have to root against the Rams.

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126:12 - 126:19 PFT Commenter

But he also didn't know who he would be playing in that opening game. It could have been the Lions. Right. Or maybe he just knew that the Lions were going to roll the Vikings.

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126:19 - 126:19 Injury/Stat Update Voice

Right.

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126:20 - 126:27 PFT Commenter

Who knows? But I'm sure I'll have some degree of, like, super confidence in whatever I choose to gamble on tomorrow night. Oh, for sure.

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126:27 - 126:44 Big Cat

Oh, I'm going to be like, fuck yeah, I'm right. I just can't... I can't get that Sam Darnold. It's stupid. I can't get the Week 18. And that was also just the Lions' great defensive game plan, but what if the Rams have a great defensive game plan? Well, they did with Sam Darnold. Yeah, they beat him already this year.

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126:44 - 126:46 PFT Commenter

Yeah, it was grab his face mask when the ref's not with him.

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126:46 - 127:04 Big Cat

Yeah, that's true. No, but that was a game that... I don't think Sam Darnold played very well against the Rams when they played earlier this season. Am I imagining that? I just remember that was a game that Puka was coming back, and it was like, oh, shit, is he going to start? Oh, yeah, he is going to start. He's going to have 106 yards. Yeah, and he's going to be awesome.

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127:05 - 127:09 Big Cat

He's going to catch every single ball. Yes, Sam Darnold, he was okay in that game. He wasn't bad.

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127:10 - 127:14 PFT Commenter

So Matt Stafford is very good against the Blitz. He's one of the best quarterbacks against the Blitz.

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127:14 - 127:15 Big Cat

That's what I remembered, yeah.

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127:16 - 127:20 PFT Commenter

But also we can agree that Matt Statton, not all pressures are created equally.

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127:21 - 127:26 Big Cat

But he also just had a week off. He can't really move that well. Maybe he's healthy again.

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127:26 - 127:35 PFT Commenter

Yeah, it could be. Maybe he spent the week off at Aloe. He's feeling good. Maybe a little Daniel Jones. Two-headed monster. With Sam Darnold? Yeah, mix him in there.

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127:35 - 127:38 Guest

He'll never see it coming. That room. It's a great room. That's a great room.

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127:39 - 127:39 PFT Commenter

If we're going off rooms.

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127:39 - 127:43 Guest

I need at least 10 minutes on the broadcast talking about that room.

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127:43 - 127:44 PFT Commenter

That room is a one seed.

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127:45 - 128:12 Big Cat

Yeah, for sure. For sure. The Ohio State Buckeyes beat the Texas Longhorns on Friday night. Was a great game. So much for the people saying that the college football playoff Expanded playoffs suck. They had us in the first half. The first round looked bad. Ratings were bad. Who the fuck cares? I don't. It says something.

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128:14 - 128:21 PFT Commenter

Not to me. I mean, I heard some people saying that they're dragging the season out too long. I'm fine with dragging the football seasons longer.

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128:21 - 128:44 Big Cat

I do think college football should end a little bit earlier just naturally. Like, I think it's weird the national championship is going to happen after the divisional round of the NFL. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, I've never watched a playoff game or any game and enjoyed the hell out of it and then afterwards been like, damn, the ratings were bad. Maybe I didn't like it. Sure, ratings don't matter.

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128:44 - 129:04 Big Cat

I mean, they just don't matter to my enjoyment of the game. No. Like, I enjoyed the hell out of that game. I thought it was a great game. Ohio State, it was like Will Howard was awesome in that first drive, and then he was not. And there was that moment where you're like, shit, is Ohio State going to fuck this up? Are they going to Ryan Day it up?

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129:05 - 129:18 Big Cat

That screen pass at the end of the half, I still don't know how that happened. I don't know how you blitz in that situation if you're Texas. And then it all came down to the first and goal series that Sark play calling has been questioned over and over.

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129:18 - 129:37 PFT Commenter

Yeah, where they ran the toss play out to the left, where they went backwards about four yards. Mm-hmm. I don't know why you do that. Don't really get it. We should say, though, Caleb Downs made a great play on it. Caleb Downs is a heat-seeking missile on that play. Caleb Downs has been doing that all season long. He takes the perfect angle every single time. He's a great player.

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129:37 - 129:57 PFT Commenter

So, yeah, a great player made a great play on a bad play call. Yeah. How about that? Yeah. Texas had a chance going in at the end. They just made more plays. The better team won. Jeremiah Smith was not really part of it. No, they shut him down. Which is crazy to say, like, just throw the ball to Jeremiah Smith every single time because you probably could do that.

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129:57 - 130:04 PFT Commenter

But I don't know if Texas took him out of the game. No, Texas defense balled out. And Ohio State does have other good wide receivers. Yeah. And they made plays.

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130:04 - 130:24 Big Cat

Yeah, Texas defense was phenomenal in that game outside of the screen pass at the end of the first half, which was horrific. I said it before the game. I'm over the Quinn Ewers experiment. No offense to him. He's like... It's a perspective thing because I do think Quinn Ewers had a great college career.

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130:24 - 130:43 Big Cat

He's taken Texas to the semifinal and back-to-back years, which if you said that to a Texas fan five years ago, ten years ago, you'd be like, fuck, sign me up. I also think Texas does this weird thing where they're comparing everyone to college Vince Young and – you can't really get better than college Vince Young.

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130:44 - 130:53 Big Cat

So it's like if that's the standard, you're going to be disappointed forever in the quarterbacks you have. Even Cole McCoy never reached college Vince Young. Right.

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130:53 - 130:54 PFT Commenter

And he was a great quarterback.

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130:54 - 131:15 Big Cat

It's an impossible standard. Quinn Ewers is a good quarterback. I just don't know if he's that extra step of getting you – again, we're talking about perspective here. It's talking about getting you to the – national championship, which he's a really good quarterback. I just don't know if he's – I would have – I wonder how good Arch Manning's going to be. That's kind of what I'm getting at.

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131:15 - 131:20 Big Cat

If Arch Manning is good next year, will Sark look back and be like, yeah, he probably fucked that up.

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131:20 - 131:38 PFT Commenter

I think this was important for Sark to show Quinn Ewers that he had his back. Yeah, I understand that. Because everybody was saying put in Arch, and I was saying it too. If you're looking for a couple yards, you have a quarterback that can move. And also, he's definitely a threat to pass, but much more capable of picking up a couple yards in a running game than Quinn would be. Yeah.

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131:39 - 131:56 PFT Commenter

I don't know why you wouldn't put him in, but I think that Sark had some weird blood oath with Quinn Ewers. It's like, you're my guy. We're bringing Arch in. Probably when they first signed Arch. He was like, Quinn, I want to let you know. I want to give you my word that he's not coming here to take your job. And we're not going to play into any of that. There's going to be a lot of media talk.

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131:56 - 132:12 PFT Commenter

The fans are going to say we want Arch. This is you. This is me talking to you, and I give you my word. You're my guy. I think this was Sark like... fulfilling on that when he did have something that he could have done that probably would have given them a slightly better chance to win.

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132:12 - 132:28 Big Cat

Cooler than that is winning a semifinal game and going to the national championship. Also correct. Yeah. Also, I'm very happy for Jack Sawyer because he's obviously been the butt of a lot of jokes going on for against Michigan. the whole flag thing. He has been phenomenal in these playoffs.

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132:28 - 132:43 Big Cat

He's stepped it up a level in that it was like the slowest fumble return ever, but it was also like it actually was kind of cool how slow it was. He was gassed after about 15 yards. Yeah, because Ohio State fans got to celebrate for about 17 minutes as he ran down the field.

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132:43 - 132:51 PFT Commenter

For you, did you see it in the moment and think to yourself, this is an all-time Ohio State highlight? Yeah. It's perfect for him. Yeah. I don't know if you knew this.

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132:51 - 133:06 Big Cat

He's from Columbus. Yeah, yeah. And Jack Sawyer, he is. And Jack Sawyer was not the reason why they lost to Michigan. He actually made the play that should have been like the crowning moment for him to beat Michigan with that interception. So Ohio State looks awesome. That was a great, great game.

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133:07 - 133:27 Big Cat

And I do think that like – so the college football expanded playoff, the people were upset about it, and I get it. The first round did suck. There's a chance. I don't know what it would have totally worked out because they would have judged things differently in a four-team playoff, but there's a chance that Notre Dame and Ohio State wouldn't even have been in the playoff in a four-team playoff.

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133:28 - 133:43 Big Cat

There's a chance because they could have gone Oregon in, Texas in, Georgia in, and then maybe Penn State. Although Ohio State probably would have jumped – I don't know how they would have done it.

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133:43 - 133:52 PFT Commenter

I think Ohio State would have jumped the loser of the SEC championship game. Or the Big Ten. So it might have been both teams. If Texas had lost that game like they did, then I think Ohio State maybe would have jumped.

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133:52 - 134:09 Big Cat

But more than anything, I know that the argument... Yeah, what was the final ranking? So Notre Dame would have been three. Texas would have been four. Penn State, five. Ohio State, six. So... According to the last rankings, Ohio State wouldn't have been in these playoffs. Wait, this was AP.

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134:09 - 134:17 PFT Commenter

Okay. Let me pull up the... But that also means that, yeah, two of the teams in the top four got beaten by those teams that were like, maybe they'd get in, maybe they wouldn't.

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134:17 - 134:36 Big Cat

I also think it's just so funny because I understand this is the college football playoff ranking. Yeah. So the actual college football rankings – and again, I don't know how they would have done it with – I think they took a little bit off of the championship games this year because of a 12-team and you knew everyone was going to get in.

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134:36 - 134:59 Big Cat

But if you had done a 14-playoff and used the rankings that they used, it would have been Oregon, Georgia, Texas, and Penn State. So Notre Dame and Ohio State would have been outside. That's your championship game. I don't know why—I understand people love the college football regular season, and they like every game mattering, and they like a Michigan ending Ohio State season.

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134:59 - 135:05 Big Cat

What other sport—like, Ohio State got hot at the right time. That's what happens in sports.

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135:05 - 135:12 PFT Commenter

I would never understand somebody who's a fan of a sport being upset that the sport uses a tournament at the end of the season to pick who the winner is.

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135:12 - 135:14 Big Cat

To play more games to find the best team.

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135:14 - 135:16 PFT Commenter

Yeah, I'm okay with that, on the record.

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135:16 - 135:35 Big Cat

Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, it was... I liked... Starting with the Arizona State-Texas game, I know the Rose Bowl was a blowout, but it was a fun game to watch because it was, like, such an incredible game that Ohio State played. I feel like we've had four really good playoff games. We have, and... Oh, yeah, and Notre Dame-Georgia was good.

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135:36 - 135:51 PFT Commenter

Yeah, and in the championship, Ohio State, they seem like they're the better team, right? Would you agree? Yes. They seem to be the better team? They are the better team. Ohio State... should beat Notre Dame unless Ryan Day does the weird Ryan Day thing that he did against Michigan.

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135:51 - 136:13 PFT Commenter

And if there's a coach who's capable of bringing that out of Ryan Day, I think it might be Lou Holtz to get him back into that mindset that he had where it's like we have to just outman him because he has something to prove. Right. He's got a fixation with Lou Holtz that he needs to figure out how to set aside going into this game. Yeah. And also Marcus Freeman is a great coach too.

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136:14 - 136:36 Big Cat

I think Notre Dame – They have to play, like, not a perfect game, but they can't make mistakes because Ohio State is just... And I'm not saying this as, like, don't play the game. Ohio State has more talent. Like, they have the most talented roster in college football. I don't think even Notre Dame fans would disagree with that. Notre Dame, though... They're just a tough-ass team.

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136:36 - 136:51 Big Cat

What's their offensive line say? Four quarters of fuck you football? Yeah, I love that. They have a mentality, and they don't kill themselves, that if they keep this game close and Ohio State has a little pucker of their asshole, they could absolutely win this game.

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136:52 - 136:56 PFT Commenter

Texas got a little bit of push at times on that defensive line. Notre Dame's got a great offensive line.

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136:56 - 137:17 Big Cat

Texas was – I know it's the 28-14 was the final score. Texas was – they scored that touchdown. We're going into overtime probably. You know what I mean? Like that was as close as a 28-14 game could be. Very excited, though. We're going to have Booger on Wednesday's show to break down NFL playoffs and the national championship. So maybe he'll give us a pick. Should we do Who's Back of the Week?

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137:17 - 137:34 Big Cat

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137:56 - 138:02 Big Cat

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138:03 - 138:25 Guest

My who's back of the week are the New England Patriots. Ah, you took mine. Yeah, so it's been a long, long few years. I've learned what it's like to be a loser franchise and not be excited on Sundays and kind of expect losing, and I learned a lot about the draft. You learned a lot about the draft. I wasn't used to that because we were winning and stuff.

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138:25 - 138:27 PFT Commenter

What's the most important thing you learned about the draft?

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138:28 - 138:35 Guest

that you can't take the three best players. The players get drafted, then you have to reassess. You have to wait. That was the big lesson I learned last year.

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138:35 - 138:42 Big Cat

I think the big lesson you learned last year was that when you trade your pick, you have to actually give it up.

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138:42 - 138:43 Guest

Yeah.

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138:43 - 138:49 Big Cat

Because that was the whole, when you were like, oh, we'll get the number one pick, but we're not going to give up the three pick.

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138:49 - 139:08 Guest

Yeah, and I know a lot of fans of the show, they always get mad like, oh, you just win, you win, you win, you win, you win. It's so annoying. And it's like now, you know, I've been in the basement. I've dealt with what a lot of people that listen to the show and you guys have dealt with for a long time. But they signed Mike Vrabel. And they're back. They're on the path. The path of glory is back.

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139:08 - 139:23 Big Cat

Question. Yeah. By the way, congrats to our good friend, Mike Vrabel. Do you have anything to say to memes who has gone on a memes path rampage against Mike Vrabel?

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139:23 - 139:39 Guest

No, I mean, I think that's the beauty of football and sports is, like, memes, you know, can do his little trolling online and say these things on X.com and the Everything app, but, like, we'll see you on the field next year, and we'll see you on the field for the next 20 years. Okay. And we'll let the talking...

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139:40 - 140:00 PFT Commenter

play itself out there. What about this take? And I'm going to say this from an anonymous person online. Mike Vrabel is proof that one smart clock management moment in a nationally televised game buys you five to 10 years of NFL media thinking you're a great coach. Memes meme that. That was memes. Memes? Hurt people hurt people.

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140:00 - 140:05 PFT Commenter

Also in this post, memes refers, I think he's referring to me as being NFL media.

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140:07 - 140:17 Guest

Memes? You're part of the NFL media that highlights this stuff and gaslights it. Okay. So memes, you're not mad. No, it's whatever, man.

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140:21 - 140:29 Guest

So we were in this together. We suffered through this season together. And it's like if you made it out of the trenches, I'd be happy for you. I would hope that you'd be happy for me. No.

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140:30 - 140:38 Guest

No. I don't want you out of the trenches. I want you in the trenches. And I want Mike Vrabel to suck. If you're listening to this, Mike Vrabel, I want you to suck.

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140:39 - 140:43 PFT Commenter

Memes is equally not mad about this as Max was about to play call.

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140:56 - 140:56

Derrick what?

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140:56 - 141:00 Guest

Prime Derrick Henry is not walking through the Patriots' door.

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141:00 - 141:02 Big Cat

He's saying Mike Vrabel's a Derrick Henry merchant.

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141:03 - 141:06 Guest

And a Ryan Tannehill merchant. Oh, yeah. He's a stud.

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141:07 - 141:21 Guest

He's a system coach. But no, it's been great. Will and Taylor bustling with the boys, guys. They obviously played for him. They had a lot of glowing, glowing things to say about him, what people can expect. Players are going to get called out.

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141:22 - 141:30 Guest

expected to play at a high standard, and Vrabel expects everyone to meet those standards, and he's going to right this ship and get us back where we need to be.

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141:30 - 141:32 PFT Commenter

He's going to expect you to meet a certain standard, too.

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141:32 - 141:41 Guest

That's fine. That's great. I mean, Missoula's the same way. That's championship mentality. That's what he should be. You're about to meet that standard. Whatever he needs, whatever coach, whatever you need, I'm here for you.

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141:41 - 141:42 Quick Interjection

Okay.

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141:42 - 141:42 Big Cat

Okay.

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141:43 - 141:45 PFT Commenter

Congrats. I'm excited for you, Hank.

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141:45 - 141:45 Big Cat

Yeah.

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141:46 - 141:47 PFT Commenter

Great hire.

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141:47 - 141:48 Big Cat

Who's your who's back?

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141:48 - 142:04 PFT Commenter

My who's back of the week is the Philadelphia 76ers. Oh. Because they were threatening to leave town. Oh. They were going to abandon Philly. After all they've done for Philly. And the city of Philadelphia just came to an agreement to keep them around for a while. So congrats, Max.

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142:05 - 142:07 Kev Finhart

They really suck.

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142:07 - 142:08 PFT Commenter

Oh, no. Do you want them gone?

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142:09 - 142:20 Kev Finhart

No, no, they're staying in South Philly. They weren't going to Jersey. They were going to go to Center City, Philadelphia, but now it's good because we're keeping all the stadiums right next to each other.

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142:21 - 142:28 Big Cat

Yeah, that's cool. I love that about any city that does that. Where the stadiums are right across the street from each other. Yeah, the sports district.

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142:28 - 142:44 Kev Finhart

Yeah. Yeah, no, just makes for a great tailgate scene. There's the big Xfinity Live mega bar in the middle of it. It's fun, but I hear the word Sixers, and they're so bad. Like, they may not even make the play-in game.

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142:45 - 142:47 PFT Commenter

Bad. But they had 10 wins by Christmas.

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142:53 - 143:08 Kev Finhart

They lost to the Magic today. We made that whole video on Christmas. That was fun. I'll always have that. You will always have Christmas. I'll always have that. That was huge. Yeah, I mean, they lost three out of their past four. I mean, the Magic are a winning team, but the Pelicans stink. The Suns stink.

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143:08 - 143:12 PFT Commenter

But aren't you happy? Like, that's a major win. They're not leaving town. Good. I'm glad.

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143:12 - 143:19 Kev Finhart

That's good. At this point, I want them to get a top six pick so we have our pick next year.

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143:19 - 143:43 PFT Commenter

Yeah. Cooper Flagg. My other who's back of the week is LeBron. Oh. He's back in the news. Have you heard about LeBron? I've seen it. I still don't understand it. All right. So LeBron was dancing to a Kendrick Lamar song like a month ago. And then Drake put out a song called Fighting Irish. And Drake has a tattoo of LeBron on his arm. This is normal stuff.

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143:43 - 143:50 PFT Commenter

Has a tattoo of LeBron on his arm from when LeBron was a high schooler. Oh. When he was playing on a team that was called the Irish.

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143:51 - 143:51 Quick Interjection

Okay.

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143:52 - 144:00 PFT Commenter

And in that, he seems to throw some shots at LeBron being like, I know things about you. You shouldn't have been dancing to that song that called me a pedophile.

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144:00 - 144:00 Quick Interjection

Okay.

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144:01 - 144:16 PFT Commenter

Now, DJ Academics went live and said that he is familiar with the accusations and that Drake does have some info about LeBron that he could put out. And now LeBron is probably very, very afraid. Credit to LeBron.

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144:16 - 144:36 PFT Commenter

He's done a great... Being the most famous person in the world for the last 20 years, he's done a great job of not having any major, huge scandals about him that have gotten brought to light until recently, until very recently. So I don't know what's going to happen. Do you think Drake has... Is he just lashing out because he got beat so bad? Has he...

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144:37 - 144:44 PFT Commenter

Handled getting defeated on a public stage worse than anyone else after threatening to sue his own record label?

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144:44 - 144:57 Big Cat

Yeah. I will say if they were best friends, which if he's got a tattoo of them... That would suck a little bit. Yeah. But I don't know if they're best friends.

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144:57 - 145:03 PFT Commenter

I would agree that LeBron, if he was friends with Drake, should not have done that.

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145:03 - 145:08 Big Cat

Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know their relationship. Hank, what are your thoughts?

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145:11 - 145:26 Guest

I think both. I mean, I think it's like star athletes. It's like I think anyone that holds them to a higher standard is crazy because there's been a million examples of like athletes being somewhat scumbags and not the most loyal guy. So it's not like shocking. I'll never be shocked when I when you hear stuff like that. It's like, yeah, no shit.

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145:26 - 145:39 Guest

That's, you know, every a lot of athletes are like that there. It's like Drake did. I know it. It's ugly. It's like LeBron was dancing, and now Drake's outing him, and it's like everyone's getting hurt people hurt people.

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145:40 - 145:40 Big Cat

Hurt people hurt people.

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145:40 - 145:48 Guest

And you're a Drake guy. I'm not a Drake guy or a LeBron guy, so I don't really give a fuck. They can both take each other down for all I care.

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145:48 - 146:00 Big Cat

This is one of those things that I was aware that was happening, but I didn't really... There's football on, so I didn't really dig deep into it, but I'm sure... I'm sure there's more that I'm going to learn.

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146:01 - 146:03 PFT Commenter

To me, it seems like Drake is just trying to get it done.

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146:03 - 146:09 Guest

Well, Braun also took that leave of absence like a month ago. That was my, like, that kind of makes that make a little more sense.

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146:09 - 146:13 PFT Commenter

That lines up. Yeah. He was up in Canada banging whores. That's academics.

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146:13 - 146:16 Guest

I mean, academics just said everything.

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146:16 - 146:17 PFT Commenter

Oh, yeah.

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146:17 - 146:17 Big Cat

So it's all been said.

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146:18 - 146:20 Guest

Yeah, but it's obviously not from the official source.

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146:20 - 146:25 PFT Commenter

I also think that Drake is just desperate to get a win anywhere. Yeah. Anywhere he can find one.

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146:25 - 146:33 Guest

I don't think it's a win, though. It's just like, yeah, I'm a scumbag. I'm friends with a scumbag. Mm-hmm. Is that a win?

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146:33 - 146:37 PFT Commenter

Yeah, he's pressing the button, blowing everybody up. Everyone's coming down with me.

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146:37 - 147:03 Big Cat

Yeah, the Dan Sider. Good guy. Yeah. All right, my Who's Back of the Week is overreacting to one thing and then trying to make changes because there's a report that the NFL might change the playoff format. Where division winners get an automatic entry into the playoffs, but not necessarily home field in the first round. I think divisions should mean something. I agree.

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147:03 - 147:06 PFT Commenter

This would suck. There's divisions for a reason.

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147:06 - 147:30 Big Cat

It's also like, yeah, this year was weird. And it's crazy that the Vikings and the Lions... were as good as they were. That week's 18 game was awesome. I guess it would have meant something in terms of a bye, but they both would have gotten a home playoff game. Divisions in the NFL is what makes the NFL great. Your division rivals and winning your division should mean a lot.

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147:30 - 147:37 PFT Commenter

It also leads to regional styles of football amongst the divisions, which is cool. It's like having identity for your division.

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147:37 - 147:52 Big Cat

The NBA has divisions. They don't even fucking care at all. It doesn't matter whatsoever. So it's like, I don't know. That's the unique... Don't overreact to one year. And guess what? It sucks because the Vikings had a really good year. Win your division. Beat the Lions.

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147:52 - 148:05 PFT Commenter

They were probably looking at the criticisms of the college football playoff. They're like, yeah, we need to do that too. No, you don't. Yeah, no, you don't. I mean, yeah, sometimes you're going to have a good wildcard team and you're going to have a below average division winner.

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148:05 - 148:25 Big Cat

Yeah. But that's okay. If they're demanding to do this... I could meet them a quarter way there and say you have to win nine games to get a home playoff game. But I'm not going to go farther than that. I like that. Above 500. But then also people then bring up the Beastquake. Beastquake, yeah. Beastquake was a 7-9 Seahawks team. That was pretty fucking awesome.

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148:25 - 148:31 PFT Commenter

I'm okay with it because if you go on the road and you lose to a 7-9 team in the playoffs, you should have beaten that team.

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148:31 - 148:52 Big Cat

Right. And it also win your division. Yeah. Like that's that's the that's the best part of NFL football is like you play your division six times. You hate those teams. They're your rivals. Those games should mean more than all the other games. Yep. So, yeah, don't do that NFL. I don't think they will. I don't think they will either. Roger Goodell is kind of the anti-Adam Silver.

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148:52 - 148:54 Big Cat

I don't feel like he listens to us.

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148:54 - 149:03 PFT Commenter

No, I think we're good. I mean, unless something really weird happens. If there was an instance where a really shitty division winner, what's the worst possible record you could have?

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149:03 - 149:12 Big Cat

I was reading a thread on it last night. I think someone technically could win a division 4-13. Yeah, look at the AFC South. I mean, they just won a playoff game.

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149:12 - 149:16 Guest

No, I'm saying in the past, though. You're a Texan. There's been some bad AFC South teams in the playoffs.

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149:16 - 149:18 Big Cat

Yeah, I think four and 13 technically.

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149:18 - 149:23 PFT Commenter

Wait, you're Mike Frabel? Blake Bortles? Which team are you talking about? Oh, no.

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149:24 - 149:28 Guest

I'll look it up. I mean, it's not the Titans. It might be Bortles.

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149:30 - 149:37 Big Cat

No. I mean, 7-9 is the... Worst NFL game. The Panthers, I think Ron Rivera, they won 7-9. The Panthers won a division once.

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149:37 - 149:40 PFT Commenter

Oh, Ron Rivera did it twice. He did it in D.C. too. Yeah.

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149:41 - 149:47 Kev Finhart

Heineke. Also, shout out NFC Beast. Only division that has two teams still available.

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149:47 - 149:49 Big Cat

There we go. NFC Beast. That's just not true.

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149:50 - 149:55 Kev Finhart

What? It's just not true. Two teams that have already advanced. Yep.

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149:55 - 149:56 PFT Commenter

Good point, Max.

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149:57 - 149:58 Kev Finhart

Switch it up on him. Yep.

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150:02 - 150:07 Big Cat

It is kind of cool in the AFC that every division's got just the division champs left.

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150:07 - 150:13 PFT Commenter

I also like having Max as my buddy and my friend right now, so I appreciate it, Max. I can tell you really mean all this stuff from your heart.

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150:13 - 150:14 Big Cat

You definitely mean it.

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150:16 - 150:17 Kev Finhart

I'm thinking.

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150:17 - 150:20 Big Cat

What? If the Vikings are in the NFC North or not?

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150:21 - 150:26 Kev Finhart

Yeah, if the Rams win tomorrow, then that's true. Yeah, that would be true. So, yes, as of right now, I was correct.

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150:26 - 150:35 Guest

Yeah. 2017 Titans, that led to Mike Malarkey's firing. What did they win the division at? 9-7.

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150:35 - 150:41 Big Cat

Oh, so that's not even the 7-9s. Yeah, needed overtime to beat 0-16. That's not even the 7-9s we've been setting.

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150:41 - 150:45 Guest

Yeah, it'd be the... 2016 Houston Texans. So, yeah, I wasn't just making shit up.

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150:46 - 150:47 Big Cat

What was their record?

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150:49 - 150:55 Guest

They were... Nine and seven. So it's still above 500.

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150:55 - 151:00 PFT Commenter

So far we have two Ron Rivera teams. And the Pete Carroll team, yeah.

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151:00 - 151:03 Guest

And the number one on this list is the 2020 Washington Commanders. Or Washington whatever.

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151:03 - 151:10 PFT Commenter

That was a big time NFC beast move by Doug Peterson that game. Get us into the playoffs. Put Nate Sudfeld up. Yeah.

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151:11 - 151:34 Big Cat

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152:28 - 152:30 Big Cat

Wait, what did you take, Pug?

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152:33 - 152:59 Big Cat

99. I mean, memes, would it really count if you won with Pug's number? Yes. Oh that's interesting So He didn't claim that But your whole argument Is PFT won with your number I guessed it I don't see the difference Hank are you going to participate I said 38 I'll say it again 46 Love you guys

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