Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Friends, Family & a Predator: A Twisted True Crime Case
Thu, 15 May 2025
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Chapter 1: What happened to Dale's father?
Her father was convicted of molesting her and her two sisters. So I go to the bathroom, come out, and I'm like, hey, I know what you did to your daughters. So when we started scrapping, I ended up like putting both hands around his neck and then I moved to get like a side position. And this guy had a bullet. He's like, you killed your dad. He goes, that night she told us that and you left.
Where were you all night? So my mother, I'm from Canada, obviously. My mother is from a small, do you know what Métis is? No. Half Native American, half white. Okay. So my mom's from a small Métis town. She's Métis. So a very small town. My grandpa was like the mayor of there and everything and the politician up there and all this crap. But she was the youngest girl. There was 13 kids.
She's the youngest girl. and uh she's a bit of a hippie and she wanted to spread her wings so she ended up moving to toronto ontario and one night at a nightclub at my uncle's nightclub actually she met my father who was apparently the six foot nine very charming very uh well-built man i guess and uh Yeah, so she fell in love with him. He actually sang Elvis Presley to her.
And she was a huge Elvis fan. So my name was actually supposed to be Elvis. But thankfully, my cousin was born a week before me. His name's Elvis. And I was named after my dad. So that saved me a life of torment. Right. So when he sang to her, she fell in love. And so they started hanging out. He took her around places, whatever, and made her fall in love even more. And then once she was...
in love, in love, he turned her out and apparently he was a pimp and that's why he was so charming. And, uh, yeah, he put her on the streets and he used to, I'm sorry.
So this is something like this is, was already something he was doing when they met. Yeah. She just didn't have any idea.
Yeah. She didn't know. So, so once that happened, she was already in love and then she met all these girls and then he used to sleep with all the girls and then he ended up getting my mom pregnant. And then he married her. And so there's wedding pictures and stuff. And I'm six months in the tummy. So I tell everybody I was a product of the game.
Well, he married her, though. I mean, he must have had some affection for her.
Well, it was the Italian side of the family. Right. It was the Italian family that pushed him towards it, I guess. But it gets weird because my mom was a black sheep of her family. There's 12 siblings. And my dad was a black sheep of his family with 12 siblings. So pretty weird they ended up together. But yeah, so... He ended up, well, she ended up giving birth to me.
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Chapter 2: How did Dale's mother's life change after meeting his father?
And then from what I read recently in the disclosure, my mom was missing visits. She was late for visits. She'd show up drunk two hours later, try to fight everybody. They got security in the one office just because of my mom. So within the first... three days, we, no, sorry, four days, we ended up in four foster homes. So we went to an emergency one, went to another one.
And then I remember we're sitting at the office and there was a dude with a heavy, guessing it was Texas accent, but he looked at me and my sister and he's like, well, that one's pretty charming and that little fat fucker's kind of funny. So we'll take them. They took me and my sister. So, but I remember him being, he was pretty cool, but it was only for overnight. And then we ended up, uh,
at another foster home where I stayed for, I think, two years altogether. My mom started missing more and more visits. And, uh, one day we're at a visit, I was six years old and I just didn't understand why we couldn't go home with her. I didn't understand all that stuff. I just knew I wanted to go home. And, uh, So I asked my mom, I said, how come we can't go home with you?
And she said, you have to go back to Janice's. We've got to figure things out first. And at six years old, I said, fuck you. You don't love us anymore. And I went and sat in the back of the transport van and waited for my sister to be finished her visit. And then we got driven back to our foster home. So where was your father? My father was in jail.
Okay.
Yeah, he was in jail for what he did to my sister. Thankfully, but two years is fuck all for all that. So... Um, so this foster mom wanted to adopt us. And once again, what I learned recently was my dad was totally against it. He wasn't giving up his parental rights. My mom was willing because she was a good foster mom and this and that. And we always told her that she treated us good.
And then, um, yeah. So the next, after I said to my mom, she missed the next visit. And my sister explained to me that mom's sick. Just got to give her time. She's going to get better, you know, and we'll get to go home. So I said, okay.
And so the next week we're getting dressed for visits and our social worker always showed up and called our names and we come running down, get in the van and we go. So my sister's helping me get dressed. We call this downstairs and we come running down the stairs and halfway down the stairs, And this was the last time I remember being truly happy because we were going to see my mom.
I was going to apologize. I was going to tell her I'm sorry for what I said, sit on her lap, give her a hug. So as we're running down the stairs, I noticed there's my social worker, my foster mom, and another lady who turned out to be my dad's attorney. I don't know why she was there. And the foster mom said, come and sit in this living room.
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Chapter 3: What childhood trauma did Dale experience?
And it was just, oh, it was really rough. So once the funeral was over, I went to my social worker and I said, hey, Donna, Janice did this to me. And I think she's mad because what her dad tried to do. So my social worker says to me, hey, just be brave and hang in there. You guys are moving soon. So I'm like, okay. So we go home and we used to have, our bedtime was 5.30 in the evening.
So we get home from school, do whatever homework we had to do, eat dinner. And then we have to say, mom, can we be excused from the table? And then we, right after that, we go for a bath. Mom, can I be excused from the bath? So one day I yelled out, mom, can I be excused from the bath? She came in there.
Reached in the tub, grabbed my penis again like this and squeezed so hard that it hurt to piss for like a week. And then just after that went away, I was drying off in the bathroom. She came in there again and did the same thing and just spoke. It was crazy. So when I read all the disclosure, it's talking about how much I loved her, how much I said I trusted her, how I felt safe in her home.
And then the day we leave to go live with my uncle, she's trying to say goodbye to us. And I ran to the plane. I didn't even look at her. I didn't look back. I just ran to the plane. So yeah, so that's pretty frigging traumatizing. And yeah, so we moved to my uncle's reserve. It's called Split Lake Indian Reserves here in Manitoba.
And I remember for the first few nights, I couldn't sleep because it's so quiet. You hear dogs once in a while. In Toronto, you'd hear screaming, yelling, cops, this and that. Newmarket wasn't that bad.
Did you ever see the foster mother again? No. Never saw her?
No. But when I was... 11, I think a lady came from Toronto to interview us because we were still under Toronto care or Ontario care for some reason. And she told us that she died from a brain aneurysm. So I was like, yeah, thanks. It was good. My sister balls her eyes out, but my sister didn't know what happened though.
Right.
But I was just saying, yeah, thank you. But yeah. So when we moved there a week within getting there, I find out that my uncle sends his kids to Sunday school. So we're going to Sunday school with my cousins. They leave. And I tell this, there's a native priest and there's a white priest. So I tell the native priest, hey, my mom just died. Can you make sure she's in heaven?
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Chapter 4: What led to Dale's involvement with the law?
But my other uncle adopted a girl out of the family who was a really cool cousin of mine. So that worked out. So we ended up in Winnipeg. We were in a foster home together, my sister and I, and we started fighting. And I remember one time she hit me in the face about four times. And then I picked her up, slammed her on the couch, put her arms and legs behind her back.
And I said, I'll never hit you. But if you ever touch me again, I'll fucking hurt you. So as soon as that happened, we got split up. I ended up in an emergency foster home. While I was there, I was like, I like this place. And then my foster dad said, are you sure? He goes, you don't know the true story here, man. And I was like, well, I like it. I like it. So we decided I'd go live with him.
So, um, Yeah, so I lived with him. We had this respite worker who was awesome. She was going to school to be a social worker. And he was only, I think he was only 24. And he had four of us by himself. And he had a couple respite workers there. But yeah, what I liked about his house was he used to sit us down in a circle and force us to talk about our past.
And he would make us like, he'd force us to heal basically. And if we tried to bullshit, he'd call us on it. And then we couldn't leave the circle unless we talked about something. So he's a really cool guy. And the lady that was just in here helping me set this whole thing up, that's a respite worker. Because once she stopped working for him, they started dating. And then they got married.
And now I live like 50 minutes away from them in a different town. So everything worked out. They're the best people I've ever met in my life. The only good foster home I've ever been in. So everything worked out there, which was awesome. And then something happened when I was there. I got in trouble. So I couldn't stay there. And I ended up in an emergency foster home.
And he moved out to where she lives. They ended up getting married and then her dad's a farmer. So they started, he started farming. Now he runs the farm and all this stuff. But I had to go to emergency foster home and I didn't understand why I got, why I had to leave. So I riled up a bunch of, rounded up a bunch of friends.
We went to the house we used to live in, ran through the walls, ripped up the toilets, ripped up the sinks. We did $30,000 damage. And to them, we were having a good time partying. To me, I'm like, you fucking hurt my feelings. This is me getting revenge because I didn't understand why I had to leave. Right. But what happened was I had assaulted one of our foster brothers.
I didn't realize because they have different levels of needs. So he was a level five. And when my foster dad told me I had to leave, he goes, he's a level five. You're a level two. You're only here because I love you. And that's when I was like, fuck. So that's when I got put in the emergency foster home. But I still didn't fully understand it. So that's why I wanted to get revenge on him.
That's why I smashed up his house. And how we got busted was the next day, I guess a real estate agent came to show it. And there's all these little brown kids laying on the floor with bottles and dust. So, yeah, next thing you know, we hear, whoop, whoop. Winnipeg police were surrounding the house, blah, blah, blah. So I run upstairs. I try to hide in his shower. My foster dad's old shower.
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Chapter 5: How did Dale react to his mother's death?
So when I read that, I was like, what? And then in court, the crown attorney said, um, The victim did not know the accused. I don't know what the motive was. In my personal opinion, Mr. Turcotte was looking to trade sex for money. In a fit of rage when the man wouldn't pay him, Mr. Turcotte beat him to death. So everyone in the courtroom laughs.
Then my lawyer stands up and he goes, no offense to my client, but if I was a John, I would not pick up a 324 pound bald man. Everyone laughed, including the judge. And I was like, oh my God. So the next day in the paper, it says the crown attorney suggested Mr. Turcotte was a male prostitute. So all my buddies in jail are like, hey, I got chocolate bars, bro. I got chips, bro.
So, but yeah, so I ended up getting six years for that. And how much time do you do on six years in Canada?
In Canada, they have something called statutory release, which is two thirds. So no matter what I get out in four years, the only time there is an exception to that is if they have a dangerous offender. who's re-offended violently or a sexual offender that didn't do all their programs, then they have to do all their time.
Okay.
But anybody else, you automatically get, you're on two thirds and then you're on parole for the rest of the time. So I remember.
Do you also get gain time? No. No, no good time. You can't earn good time though.
But you have earlier parole, but that's only for nonviolent offenders, first-time offenders. So you have to be first-time, you have to be nonviolent. You are not. Well, I'm not. No. Well, I remember when 9-11 happened, they had an army dude come and he told us that if you're... the hell did he say?
If you're serving less than six years and you're nonviolent and you don't have weapons charges, you, if it comes down to world war three, you can serve the rest of your time out in the army. So, and I was like, well, six years violence, I don't call. So yeah. But, um, I remember when I first, I was in a Stony Mount penitentiary in Manitoba here.
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Chapter 6: What was the outcome of Dale's confrontation with his mother's abuser?
Yeah. Doesn't sound all right. I mean, in some ways it does. You guys are playing hockey and, and, and. Oh yeah. Hockey, football, bunnies. I never saw a fucking chocolate bunny the whole time I was at Coleman, but you know, so.
Which state did you do time in?
Huh? Which state did you do time in? Florida. Florida.
Okay. That's where you're originally from.
Yeah. I'm from, I'm from Tampa, but I was on the run for like three years. But when they caught me, They sent me to Coleman, which is about an hour north of Tampa. Okay.
What's that small town you're from? Because you said, well, I say Tampa because nobody knows my small town.
I'm actually from Temple Terrace. Absolutely. Like 15 minutes outside of... You know, it's almost like a suburb of Tampa, but it actually is its own city. Nobody knows that, though.
Yeah. I think someone in the comments is like, oh, I was there before or something.
Yeah.
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Chapter 7: How did Dale cope with his past in prison?
And you know what's funny? It was a jail movie.
Okay.
It was a jail movie. And they even put a picture on Facebook and said, guess which one's the actual criminal. But yeah. So I got interested in the whole process. It was pretty cool. So I started asking questions about screenplays and stuff. And this is an app. So... Um, my mom sent me a couple of books on screenplays. I read them. So I started doing a screenplay to keep myself occupied.
So as I'm writing it, this dude comes up to me and says, Hey, Turcotte, guess who your new parole officer is? And I look up, it's the guy through the kid, the one who everybody in court laughed at. So when I got out, this guy breached me 13 times. So I called him one day. I said, hey, I got to bring my steps on the school. I'll be there about five, ten minutes late for my piss test. He said, okay.
I get there. There's cops waiting. Like this guy fucked me hard. Right. It was his revenge for the embarrassment, the laughter. So I probably ended up doing maybe seven years on that sentence, seven and a half. Like all together, I guess it doesn't count the time that I was out. Installments. Yeah. Yeah. So I did four straight and then the installment plan.
So, but then in the middle of that too, I got in a high-speed chase.
Was that his fault too?
No, no, that was mine. And you know what's funny is I was on the run. So the house I'm sitting in now, I came to visit my parents to say goodbye because I was going to turn myself in soon. I was supposed to do a movie again. I was supposed to be a mental patient. So I phoned the director and I'm like, hey, I'm not going to be able to make it while I'm in the high-speed chase.
I'm like, hey, I'm not going to be able to make it. Something come up. I phoned my girlfriend whose vehicle it was. I was like, hey, your vehicle is going to be impounded in Brandon. You got to come pick it up. I'll pay for whatever. I got to go.
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Chapter 8: What are Dale's thoughts on his father's legacy?
I'm not telling you that. You see me in big deals. Okay.
Yeah. But it's like a really humble life, but it's like my wife asked me once in a while, like, are you bored out here? And I'm like, it's a good boring.
Yeah.
You don't have to worry about nothing. Like I'm so, I'm so content. Like I just love everything that's going on in my life, except for my legs. My legs are slowly healing, but.
I don't know much about, you know, I'm in Florida, so I don't know anything about frostbite. Yeah. But what, what, I mean, how, but why is it taking so long?
Uh, they can figure that out. Like they say, okay, well you're diabetic. It might be because of that. But the thing is, if I get a wound, if I get a wound on my foot, it heals right away. Like anything on my feet heals, anything above my knees heal. It's just from just below my knee down to my ankle where those wounds are. And when one heals, it like moves around.
So this will heal, the one beside it will open. Like the skin beside it will open. But thankfully, the last four months, we got new bandages that are slowly closing them. So yeah. So once those are done, then my life is perfect.
That's good. How do you feel about this?
Very good. I looked back at where I was, and I can't believe I made it out.
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