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Chapter 1: Why is Woody Harrelson in Austin?
the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day what's happening man how are you everything's groovy as could be i'm happy to be in austin i love it here you know it's a fun place Yeah, yeah. I mean, I stay here. Oh, do you? Yeah. And I don't know. It's like just a special place in this country.
Yeah.
Yeah, kooky liberals. Yeah, I've been thinking a lot about that lately. Did you get a lot of that after Saturday Night Live?
Chapter 2: What was the controversy around Woody Harrelson's SNL monologue?
A lot of kooky liberals coming your way? Yeah, it's a good transition.
That monologue was great, by the way. Yeah, well, I got a lot of blowback, as I knew I would. Because he told the truth. Yeah. Well, yeah, I you know, it's just that you don't want to say anything negative about vaccines, which I didn't. What I was talking about in that monologue was. was really about profiteering. Yeah. Okay. So World War II, necessary.
Everyone could say that was a necessary war. Let's say that this war on microbes was a necessary war, right? Why is anyone profiteering? Yes. Why did, you know, you know, Pfizer get to make $100 billion in 2021? Right. Anyway. Why did the government profit off of it? The profiteering of war is just wrong.
Like, OK, if you say that it has to be, there's conflicts happening right now, I disagree with. But I'm wondering, why are people making money off of it? Even if you think you have a legitimate vantage point from the other side of it, why does someone get to make so much freaking money off of it?
yeah yeah it's the dirtiest aspect of human beings we'll find a way to profiteer off everything everything and anything even even if it's just and they'll prolong just things in order to make more profit
Well, I mean, I'm sure you know that Richard Nixon knew it was imperative that the war continue, the Vietnam War, back before he got elected. He didn't want that to get settled. Yeah. And there's a great phone call. I don't know if you've listened to any of Johnson's phone calls. Lyndon Johnson. What phone call?
There was a phone call he had with Nixon saying, hey, man, you're going against the peace. Because he was trying to get a peace to go before the 68 election, right? Which he eventually just bailed out of anyway because he could see he was going to lose it, Johnson. You know, maybe you haven't... No, I've never heard that conversation between Nixon and Johnson. It's an incredible conversation.
And Nixon's like, oh, I wouldn't do that. I would never, you know. And, of course, he was doing that. He was subverting the peace process, you know. In the same way that, you know, they wanted to make sure Carter didn't get those... you know, those guys released in Iran.
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Chapter 3: How has media coverage changed public perception of vaccines?
I always wondered about the Vietnam War, how much of it was about heroin.
Three days before 1968 presidential election, President Johnson contacted Senate Majority Leader Everett M. Dirksen to inform him the White House had received hard evidence from the Federal Bureau of Investigation that the campaign of Republican presidential candidate Richard M. Dick Nixon was interfering with Johnson's effort to start peace talks to end the Vietnam War.
In this call, Johnson referred to contacts between Nixon's campaign and South Vietnamese President Nguyen Van Thiet, I don't know how to say his name, urged that they thwart any such negotiations.
Yeah.
Yeah, and that did happen. And also, they definitely, Bush, you know, the senior Bush, George Bush Sr., he met with the leaders of the Iranian, what do you call it, party, whatever, before the election, the Carter, the fight between Carter and Reagan. Mm-hmm. and insisted they needed to not be letting those hostages go.
And so I met Carter in Atlanta, I don't know, a couple, three years ago, right? It's very exciting for me because I've always been a big, big fan of Carter. I think he's the best president in my lifetime. And I talked to Carter and he was like, and I said, I'm sitting there, I'm thinking to myself, is there a better time to ask? When am I going to have another time? Right.
And so that was known as the October surprise, right? Right. That Bush met with those guys. Anyway. I just said, I'm going to ask him. I said, well, I just wonder, is there any truth to the October surprise? And he kind of he looks at me like he hadn't heard this question lately.
And he looks at me and he goes, well, I never talked about this publicly, but we did still have people in the in the White House after we left who were there during the Reagan administration. And they confirmed it was true.
Yeah, of course it was true. It was too obvious. The hostages get released right after Reagan gets elected.
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Chapter 4: What are Woody Harrelson's views on government and Big Pharma?
Far be it for me. Yeah, we don't need to. Hey, man, your movie's fucking great. I loved it. Oh, you saw it? I saw it Wednesday night. Yeah, it was great.
Oh, thank you.
Really great. Nail biter.
Yeah, and the edge of your seat movie.
Yeah, there's not a single cut to shit moment in that movie. You know, there's movies where you have to suspend disbelief and it takes you out of it. There's none of that in that movie. It's really good. It's really good. Very suspenseful. Very fulfilling. The end of it, you feel super entertained.
Yeah. Oh, thank you. Thank you so much. Yeah, I love it. It's so exciting, that film. It's like an action movie. I mean, it really is. Like, as nail-biter as any action movie I've seen, I love it. And Alex Parkinson, he also – he was the director. He also directed the – because it was a documentary, Last Breath. Oh, wow. Oh, because people may not know.
This was a real incident that happened in the North Sea. Anyway, yeah. Simu Liu and Finn Cole, you know, loved those guys, loved working with them. That was a great experience.
It's a great movie. It's very good. It's very fun. Like, it's exciting. And I hardly ever go to the movies anymore. But your people made me go see it in the movie theater. Oh, yeah? Yeah, so I had to actually go to a theater and see it. It was great, though.
Well, thanks for doing that, man. Oh, my pleasure. My pleasure. I know you're a busy man. You've got a lot going on. Yeah, but I was excited to talk to you, man.
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Chapter 5: How did Joe Rogan handle backlash from controversial interviews?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. The whole thing made no sense. And it was just designed to push a vaccine that they profited off of massively. And I hope we learn. I hope we learn. I hope next time things roll around, people are a lot more hesitant to just jump in and believe this shit.
Well, already they were coming up with additional vaccines for this or that or another booster. And people were like, yeah, no. So I think people have already started to question. validity of things.
Well, I think this pandemic and the response and the mandates and all that shit, it ruined people's faith in First of all, the mainstream media. I think the mainstream media took the biggest hit out of anybody. Like, the trust in the television shows and the newspapers that are supposed to be delivering the truth is at an all-time low. Well, I hope you're right. Oh, I think I'm right.
I think it's pretty obvious. I mean, the ratings are down on every fucking show there is. Newspapers, no one wants to buy them.
You mean since the pandemic? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay.
I didn't know that. Oh, yeah. CNN is fucking no one's watching it anymore. MSNBC is a ghost town. No one's watching these shows because they're all just lying. They're still lying. They're lying constantly. And now, you know, now they're lying about the Department of Government Efficiency when before they were lying about pandemics and vaccines. It's just it's not really the news.
You know, if it was the news, they wouldn't be paid for by the pharmaceutical drug companies. You can't have the fucking news sponsored by the people that you're supposed to be reporting on and then you never report on them. That's just crazy.
Yeah.
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Chapter 6: What is the impact of psychedelics on society according to Joe Rogan?
Yeah.
Now. But after that Robert Malone thing happened, I was really curious. I was wanting to contact you and I didn't. But but I was just curious how because, man, I never seen anyone take more body blows. But I got to say, it was cool. They were like stood behind you. Is it Spotify? Yeah. Yeah. Spotify.
Well, fortunately, they're not American. It's not an American company. You know. Oh, yeah.
Where are they from? Sweden. Oh. Yeah.
So they're like, eh, we're not buying it. Also, the show was big enough where they were like, why would we pull this thing off the air? Let's hang in there and see what happens. And it just kept getting bigger. And so they were realizing the people were basically on the side of free distribution of information and they didn't buy it. But there was two guys, Peter McCullough and Robert Malone.
Those are the ones. And then there was like some fucking... Oh, yeah, Peter McCullough. Boy, he took a lot of hits. He did. Big time. Most published doctor in human history in his particular field of study. I mean, he's well-respected, rock-solid, credentialed.
And it was one of his videos I tried to send right after I got it. I tried to send it to people. No. They were so quick. I've never seen such quick... Censorship or editing, almost impressive.
It was creepy. What was it like in Hollywood having your perspective, your healthy distrust of what was going on where everybody was sort of in lockstep with whatever the government propaganda was?
Yeah, for sure. Well, you know, I mean, I don't know how many sets you visited, but everybody was like, you know, in masks. Yeah. And then there'd be different zones. Yeah. And then, you know, you get, the closer you get to the actual set where the shooting is, and then that red zone, people, put your masks on. And I was just like, I never bought it.
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Chapter 7: How is the war profitability discussed in this episode?
We're going to find out.
We're going to find out. There's no way that gets through Congress.
We'll see. You know, we'll see. We'll see what the resistance is.
But every one of those guys is getting money from Big Pharma.
A lot of them are.
A lot of them are. Certainly all the Democrats.
People are paying attention now and they will get primaried. And I think they're aware of that. So I think there's a vulnerability for their entire career. If people find out that they weren't willing to do this in the face of overwhelming evidence.
You know, like Bobby was just talking about the hepatitis vaccine, that they were saying that the hepatitis B vaccine, they were having a hard time selling it. And so they all of a sudden start saying, don't worry about it. We're going to prescribe it for children. And they put it on the vaccine schedule for children. And they did that just because they were having a hard time.
Because the only time you get hepatitis B is from dirty needles and risky sex. And people are like, I don't want that fucking thing. And so they're like, nobody wants to take it.
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Chapter 8: Why is marijuana still not legal in Texas according to Woody Harrelson?
And so we've got this bizarre thing where we're supposed to be a community, but we're a two-sided community. And one side hates the other side. And whoever is in power, those people are the problem.
That is such a weird part of the human, you know, nature or whatever you want to call it, psychology. And I noticed just the other day, there was some dude, like, I can't remember what the context was, but I remember he kind of came into my zone and I thought, look at this fucking guy.
guy man he's got such an asshole you know i could just tell you could just feel it you know and then and then i thought wait why are you what you've got nothing that tells you that that's true you know right other than maybe you're jealous because he's more handsome than you are so no but in any way and so i go uh How you doing? And he smiles. And I'm like, this guy is incredible.
You know, like you just all you need to do sometimes is just generate a smile on that other person who you thinks an asshole's face. And suddenly they're. They're a kid, you know, it's suddenly you're in a different, you're using your kid juice to interact.
Well, that's like the importance of charisma, right? Because a person isn't exactly who they are. They're who they are when they interact with you. And however you interact with them will affect the way they interact with you. It's a two-way street, most sort of interactions.
If they see a frown on your face, then inevitably there's a frown on their face.
Inevitably.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But smiles generate smiles. And if you think about it, that is the easiest energy generating thing is another person's smile. Sure. And getting you to smile.
And common ground. And I think we have – that's the problem with the media and with political ideologies is that there's no currency in common ground. The currency is all in division. That's where you can gain the most momentum, get the most people on your side. You have to say the other people are the enemy. Common ground is much more common. Most people agree. Most people want to be safe.
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