Josh Brolin is a producer, director, writer, and Academy Award-nominated actor. His memoir, "From under the Truck," is available now. https://www.harpercollins.com/products/from-under-the-truck-josh-brolin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is Josh Brolin's new memoir about?
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Hey, oh. Little Bo Peep, she needed the money. Oh. Oh. Remember how great that was, man?
Oh, yeah. When I first met him, it was like one of those weird things where, you know, I mean, you've met a lot of famous people. Some of them, you meet them, you're like, oh, fucking really? Bummer. It's weird.
Oh, there's bummer, too. Yeah, the bummer ones, that sucks.
When you meet someone, they suck. You're like, oh, no, you suck. I know, exactly. Some people just not talk. They should only do what they do, act and sing.
But then you get to know them. I don't know. I'm pretty good at this now where you don't. You see people that you looked up to. Like Eddie Vedder, I had a pretty close relationship with Eddie Vedder. Oh, really? Yeah, but I was drinking and then I would grab his balls and do shit like that. And then it was like, I don't want him around. I don't want Josh around. Yeah. I don't like that anymore.
I don't want my, you know, and I think Sean Penn appreciated shit like that. Like, wow, somebody has the balls. It's not even a little chaos. It's like somebody has the balls to like call me on my shit. Like not everybody's afraid of me.
Oh, right. Yeah, he's probably used to people constantly being afraid of him. Yeah, like, oh, I can't fuck with him. Right. Well, he does wild shit. Like, when he went down to fucking Mexico and met with El Chapo, like, Jesus Christ, dude. That's a fucking wild, reckless thing to do.
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Chapter 2: How does fame affect personal relationships?
Yeah, he knew her. Was he dating her? I don't know. But I think she had a thing with El Chapo. After that? No. Did Sean introduce them properly? I don't know. I think he knew her and she knew him. She knew El Chapo.
Oh, right.
I love you.
Yeah.
I really enjoyed you in colors. And then next thing you know. What's the most dangerous thing that you do now? What do you think? Dangerous? Yeah. Like we're talking about Sean going out on a limb. Do you find it necessary to go out and do things that like challenge you in a way?
Yes.
Challenge your psyche? Yes. In what way? Elk hunting is probably the most exciting. What is? Elk hunting. Elk hunting. Why? Because it puts you in danger?
Well, no. It's just really difficult. You know, you're bow hunting in the mountains.
Right.
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Chapter 3: What are the dangers of celebrity culture?
So why is that list not released?
That's a very good question. Who has that list? Well, for sure someone has the list. Ghislaine Maxwell's in jail, right? So she must have talked. There must have been conversations. And there must be a bunch of very powerful people that are on that list.
Are all the powerful people in cahoots?
Something that I learned when I played W.
I played a senator. What was that like?
I played W. What is it like playing a guy who's still alive?
Did you meet with him or hang out with him at all? Scary. I mean, no, I wanted to. Did you ever meet him? No.
God, that's weird, right?
I had the opportunity to meet him afterwards. And there was something about him that was more, I remember when he was like giving candy to Michelle Obama and all that.
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Chapter 4: How does Josh Brolin approach mental and physical challenges?
Right when you're born.
Right when you're born.
You know, there's also doctors that say it doesn't even really work for babies. But what you're doing is you're conditioning the parents to accept the fact that your child is going to get regularly vaccinated. My doctor, fortunately, our pediatrician wanted to put the kids on a different schedule, a slower schedule. And he didn't want them to have any vaccines until they were two.
Your doctor in California?
Yes. But it was not like a quack. It was like, I think the way to do it, I mean, yeah, there's a schedule of vaccines your kids have to get unless you have religious exemption. But let's not assault.
your children with a potential poison because everybody is different. If I take a bong hit, I might end up under the table. If you take a bong hit, you actually may feel smarter and clearer. I remember Dean Potter, who was a climber and he was like, I stopped smoking pot for four months and But when I started smoking pot, I could feel the hold at 2000 feet. Oh, yeah.
Sheer cliff, nothing underneath, no ropes. But I felt more confident. And for me, I go, if I took a bong head up there, I could be four feet up and be freaking out. Right. It's different for everybody. Because everybody has different brains. It's like psychopharmaceuticals. Let's just give them all lithium or let's give them all that. You have to experiment.
The idea of experimenting with that shit is super scary.
It is. It is super scary. And it's also super scary when you're not liable for any of the repercussions. Right. And you're just pushing it on people because you're a corporation, and corporations just want to make money. Their thing is just unlimited growth. They have an obligation. They're shareholders. Every quarter, they want to make more money, and they just keep ramping it up.
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Chapter 5: What experiences shaped Josh Brolin's career?
Chaos. Full on chaos. Here, let's put the headphones back on. Start from the beginning.
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Cocaine. Another Dunhill. Lunch. Margaritas.
Lunch.
Taco salad. Dungeon rings. Carrot cake. Ain't fritter. Cocaine. Start snorting cocaine seriously. Drops acid. 11 p.m. I don't know what that is.
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Chapter 6: How does writing influence creativity and identity?
Yeah, this is the article.
Would you send me this article if it's an article article? Yeah, I'll send it to you.
I would love that. Yeah. But this is the whole thing.
I mean, what's so great is when you go – I mean, this is kind of popping all over the place. But when you go back and you look at all the politicians, whatever side – you know, whatever red, blue they lean toward, it didn't matter because Hunter was there kind of looking for something different and it wasn't all about him.
When it came down, they all describe Hunter as this like crazy, it was so much fun to hang out with him, but there was never a lack of he was super intelligent and wanted the best for everybody. He was a real patriot. He was a true patriot.
Yeah. Did you ever read Fear and Loathing on the campaign trail? Yeah. That's one of the more interesting pieces because you've got this guy who's following around the campaign trail, and he knows he's only in it for this one time. So he's not like any of these other reporters. He's just writing a book. Yeah, what are you going to do, fire him? Yeah, exactly.
And not only that, you can't because he's going to write a book. Like, he's writing a book. You can't fire him.
Whether you like it or not.
Yeah, whether you like it or not, he's writing that book. But, you know, he's dropping acid. He's talking to these guys into drinking. Like, he's taking all these, like, fucking nerdy political reporters.
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Chapter 7: What lessons does Josh Brolin share about success and failure?
Where is she from originally?
She was from Colorado.
Okay, so not an L.A. born.
No, no, no. And so she lived in L.A. with me for a while, and we were happy. You know, we lived in Bell Canyon, which was like outside of L.A. It's nice, peaceful, had a little land, coyotes and hawks and shit. But you're still in L.A. ? Yeah, well, for me it was okay because I had quiet where I lived, and then I could drive into the comedy store, and I loved it.
But then when they shut the comedy store down, they shut everything down, and I was like, baby, they're not going to let us go back. This is like these fucking cocksuckers have control now, and that's what they like. That's why they became politicians in the first place. They like telling people they can't work. They have a grip on society, and they're going to fucking keep this grip.
We've got to get the fuck out of here.
So did you move sight unseen? Did you move just – Did you just come? Did you find a place? I came looking for... You came and you hung out for a while?
I came looking to see if I could deal with it. We took a few days off and we flew to Austin with some friends who were also thinking about doing it. None of them wound up moving here. A couple of them moved to Dallas. But we came here and then... One of the things that helped, my daughters were 10 and 12 at the time. They were real young, and they were real confused about what was going on in L.A.
It was spooky. You had to wear a mask everywhere, and that freaks kids out. It was freaky. It had a major impact on kids. We came to Texas, no masks. You go to restaurants, and we had this great real estate lady. She's a good friend now. We wanted to see this house, and she took us on a ride on a boat. She had a friend to take us on the lake. We go on the lake. People are playing Leonard Skinner.
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Chapter 8: How does Josh Brolin navigate the complexities of fame?
That's where my mom's boyfriend was drunk and passed out. But it has this, to me, I chose it because it has a double entendre that when you're under a truck, you're either fixing it or getting run over by it. Hence my life. I'm either getting run over by it or fixing it.
How did you sort it out? Because you're so together now. Am I? Yeah, I think you are.
Thank you.
You're fun.
Thanks, man.
Fun people are together. If you can be fun, you're together.
I think I'm at that place. I found a place that you have always been at that I didn't have. I had the opposite, where you go, no, I didn't do cocaine because... And forget the drugs. It's the mentality. I didn't do cocaine because it would kill me. And I would go, oh, that stuff will kill you.
Yeah.
Let's just walk that line. I always wanted to walk that line. And I had a mother that walked that line. The book is very mother heavy. Very, very mother heavy. And it wasn't intended to be. It just turned out that way. That's why I wanted to... Fuck, I wish I had a book.
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