Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Did Big Meech Cooperate!? | Prison Insider Explains Everything!
Mon, 24 Feb 2025
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Chapter 1: Did Big Meech cooperate with authorities?
Did Meach cooperate? Meach took a picture with Rick Ross. Rick and 50 have had a long-standing beef. 50 says that he's coming out with a documentary with Tam and exposed the big Meach. Matt, you're going to get a crash course today in the history of BMF, the Black Mafia family. Do you know who that is by any chance?
The only reason I know is because I was locked up with Big Meech's brother.
Southwest T, really?
Yeah. How the fuck am I just hearing about this now? Well, they called him Southwest, and I had a buddy who was writing a book with him. And it was like a self, like I was telling him, you need to write this guy's memoir. And he wanted to write like a self-help book, kind of like how he was the financial mastermind behind BMF, you know, You see what I'm saying?
Obviously, Big Meech is the guy out front. Everybody's like, oh, he's running everything. And he wanted to write a book that kind of said that he was the person that was behind the scenes running everything. Not really running everything. You know what I'm saying? The brains of the operation. The brains of the operation or the financial.
He was running the financial part of it or something along those lines. And my buddy was like, he did write that book, I'm pretty sure. And but he never ended up writing his memoir. I think he kind of alluded that like he might he might let him write his memoir.
That's a lot of what we're going to talk about today concerning Meech. And this was a point I was going to make later, but I'll throw this out now since you said that. At the end of the day, when these guys got busted, and we'll do a quick overview on their operations, but South T, Terry, Southwest T, whatever you want to call it, was more of the reason why they got busted.
He was the one that was caught on wiretaps. He was the one that really sank the ship, so to speak, as far as him and Meech. Meech wasn't caught on wiretaps. A lot of people even said Meech probably could have fought that case and won. But ultimately, you're kind of leaving your brother to take the fall for the whole thing. And so they both went down.
Yeah, so I kind of heard. So my understanding is that there was a large trafficking operation. And when they all did get kind of busted, that... they negotiated a plea where they all took like 30 years or something like that. They didn't cooperate. It just all took 30 years and went to prison for 30 years. That was it.
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Chapter 2: Who is Big Meech and what is BMF?
50 says that he's coming out with a documentary with Tammy And Tammy's going to expose that Big Meat's done what's called third-party cooperation. Now, Tammy's an executive producer on the BMF show, On the Stars. From what I gather, she was the one that was Meech's kind of connection to the outside world as far as handling his life rights and things like that from prison.
Because then what Pete told me, and you would know because you wrote a lot of books in prison, I don't think you can really control that while you're in prison as far as your own life rights. But if you sign them over to someone else, they can make deals on your behalf. Is that correct?
You're not really supposed to be able to even sign contracts at all. But yeah, I'm sure Pete's right probably on that. He's certainly not in a position to shop them. You at the very least need somebody out there shopping and around making phone calls. You're not doing that for prison.
Right. And there was documentaries made on the BMF and stuff like that. So it's not like only a few people know who he is. And he was also tied into the music industry. He got a lot of guys started. That was how they were starting to watch some of that money was getting artists thrown into the fray. Young Jeezy was one. He come out of that camp. So he's a well-known guy.
Which almost begs the question, if 50 got the life rights from Tammy to be able to shoot the BMF series, that means technically he owns Meech's life rights, which could get really hairy going forward. I don't want to jump too far ahead, but if that is the case, then Meech basically has no legs to stand on as far as his own life rights.
That would be now technically owned by 50 Cent, if that's what happens. I don't know the specifics of the deal they cut, but that's not really important to So now let's introduce you to players in this whole situation. You've obviously got Big Meech, who was in prison this whole time. He went to, I think he rested in 05, took a deal in 07, plea deal. Tammy Cowan, who was his handler...
A guy named Dion Cuffy Gatlin, who was a St. Louis drug trafficker that was apparently, I didn't even know there was such a thing until I started looking into this, but a St. Louis BNF. So I guess maybe they have branches throughout the U.S. He didn't know Meech for a long time and knew Tammy, forgot to know Tammy at some point.
There's another individual named Fidel Suarez, who's another trafficker. He had met Meech while they were in county prison. And then a DAA agent Cromer, and this guy stays really busy throughout this, doing a lot of extracurriculars throughout this thing. And I am looking down here, if anybody asks, because I have a lot of notes. It's really easy to get lost in the weeds in this.
So Cuffy has come out and said that Meech got him busted so he could get a time reduction. Meaning Meech get a time reduction. The problem with this is none of the stuff that is in all these indictments that is in what you can find online proves that he didn't even get arrested for that deal that was set up. He was hooked up with Fidel. I mentioned earlier Fidel Suarez.
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Chapter 3: What led to Big Meech's arrest?
She told me that if I help the DEA, they'll give you a time cut. Like they'll go in front of the judge. They'll say this guy had somebody out on the outside help us. We didn't pay her because she said it's very specific. I can't get paid. But if I help them, they'll give you a cut. They'll recommend to the prosecutor that they reduce your sentence.
And he says, of course, this is what he said to me, by the way, in a medium security prison.
surrounded by like another guy that was very cool we were all very close it was me and him and another guy named mike and he's like you know i told her not to do it i told her absolutely not but man can you believe that that's what she wanted to do and i'm like oh that's crazy bro and i'm like so when do you think you'll be leaving he's like no no i'm not gonna do that bro i'm not gonna do that i was like okay so maybe a few months later he he says
Man, bro, she's doing this. Like I told her not to, but she says she's doing it. She's already talked to the agent. She's already hanging out with this guy, going to parties. Like I told her not to do this, but she wants me out. She's in love, whatever. You know what's so funny is like this guy, you know, he was shocked because of how he left it, right? Like he just leaves. I mean, he's gone.
So anyway, another three, four, maybe six months goes by. I go in his cell one day, walk in. What's going on? He's in there. Mike's in there. And and Mike looks up at me and looks at him and he goes, tell him he's come on. And he goes and he looks at Mike and he goes, bro, tell him he's not going to say anything. He don't give a fuck. And I looked at him. I was like, what's up? He's like.
I just got my sentence cut. Because I'm they're sending me to a halfway house. I was like, are you serious? He is. Yeah, I'm going to be in a halfway house here. very shortly, literally within two weeks, he's packing his bag. He goes to a halfway house. This guy did three years on a 10 year sentence. Damn.
So they cut it down to at least six or so.
No, they cut it down, cut it in half, probably down to five. Okay. Five plus some good time. Cause back then that was 85% good time. So on five, you're doing four, four and a few months. But so we probably got six months, maybe a year halfway house.
immediately boom right back then you were people were getting a year so here's what's here's what's horrible about that story by the way he contacted me once i got out he saw one of my one of my um videos and he was like oh my god he contacted me he's like what's going on i said what's up bro he's yeah bro he's a married got three kids runs a successful business doing kicking ass i'm like oh wow that's great i go so you you marry the the puerto rican princess he's like
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Chapter 4: What role did Tammy Cowan play in Meech's story?
Okay. A guy named Kevin. There's a guy named, I'm not gonna say his last name, although I think I've said his last name before. He's a dick. Anyway, he was locked up. I think he got like 25 or 30 years. Let's say he got, let's say he got 30. He was running a financial, a financial kind of scheme with his mother. Um, they get busted. He's like a, a boy genius, right?
Like he's in his mid twenties, 24, 25, whatever. And he gets busted. So he fights it. He goes to, goes to trial and he's fighting it. I still remember the name of his, uh, us attorney was Robert Mazeskowski. Cause I think he's the us attorney now for the middle district of Florida. So, um,
So Mazikowski comes to him and says, hey, if you take a plea, we'll give you – you'll end up doing about three years. You cooperate against everybody, do about three years. He goes, fuck you. I'm not – I'm not doing that. You don't have anything on me. I'm going to beat you at trial. Goes to trial. He loses. He gets 25 years.
They come to him and they say, look, two of your co-defendants are going to trial right now. cooperate, we'll, we'll get you, we'll get you down to about 10 years. He says, fuck you. I'm not going to do that. I'm going to beat you on my appeal. He loses his appeal. By this point, the co-defendants have gone to trial and they've lost.
Now his co-defendants, either one of his co-defendants or he was, or they were now appealing and they said, or they were getting a retrial or something. They come to him, they go, look, One of them, I think, was getting a retrial. He goes, listen, you testify at this. I'll get you down to 15 years. We'll go from 25 to 15. He said, Weeks goes, fuck you.
I'm filing a 2255, which is another motion you can file, which says that your lawyer was ineffective. He goes, I'm going to beat you on my 2255. He loses. The guy who has the appeal or the second guy going to trial, he also loses. So then Weeks is doing, got stuck with 25 years. He's got 20. I think he actually, I want to say he had 30. So he had like, let's say 30 years.
I'm gonna say he had 30 because I think he had, he was the only person I'd really met at that time that had more time than me. First of all, he's the only other person at the medium, which is where I met him, that had a financial crime, like similar to mine. So he's got 30 years. He's doing 30 years. He'd been locked up, let's say five or 10, about 10 years by this point.
His sister comes to him and says, listen, I know this – I'm kind of seeing this drug dealer. I know this drug dealer. He wants to start seeing me. What if I get him busted? Like he talks very openly in front of me. And he says, absolutely. So Weeks gets on the phone with a DEA agent. DEA agent promises, I promise you, I'll get you a time cut for this. Says it on the fucking phone and everything.
which he can't do, by the way. It's not up to him to say that. And agents are allowed to look you in the face and lie to you. So he tells him this on the phone.
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Chapter 5: What is third-party cooperation?
Everybody's going to know. Nobody do that. Yeah.
Yeah. You would just kind of take it on the chin at that point because you're ruining what your, your legacy is built on of, of not folding and not ratting or whatever. So now CSI one is, uh, being treated at this point very differently by everybody else.
She's being looked at with a lot of different eyes, especially, I don't know what the dynamic is of her and Meech at this point, because if she goes and tells Meech
that she's involved in all this he's probably like very much wanting to cut ties with her and any of them at this point comfy says that he sent me certified mail in jail and he's like man i've known this dude for 23 years and he didn't even respond and i know he got it because he sent certified mail who the fuck would respond to anything having to do with setting up a drug transaction i don't blame each and all for not responding to that
Right. Yeah.
I mean, like, I mean, I don't know what was in it, but it's, he, he says it was like, he sent him paperwork saying, Hey, did you know your name is in this about me getting set up for a drug bust? Like I wouldn't respond to that at all. Meech is not a dummy by any stretch of the imagination. So I don't, he's trying to use that as a way of saying, you know, he, he didn't respond because he's guilty.
This isn't Facebook where people just reply to everything like that. Right. There's some shit you just don't reply to. So the, the bigger deal here is comfy. finally gets linked up to Suarez. There's a whole nother deal where he set up with this, he was supposed to meet Suarez to get, I think it was like two keys a blow.
Something happened where that got lost and he didn't even have any money to buy it. He then wants to get more keys from Suarez. And that dynamic there is starting to fall apart. So even if it was supposed to be them two, that kind of dies on the vine. CS2, who I'm guessing is in the loop here and knows all these guys, she introduces Cuffy to a man named Martinez to do a drug deal.
Unbeknownst to Cuffy, Martinez is an undercover cop.
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Chapter 6: How did personal relationships affect the BMF case?
Right.
You know, he couldn't really, Ja Rule didn't really have a legacy. That was just more or less like a rat beef between him and Ja Rule, but this is different. And what's interesting to me is if he knew, he obviously had to know Tammy. There's no way you're telling me you just found out about all this after you've seen him taking a picture with Rick Ross. You had to know all this anyway. Right.
You didn't see a picture with Rick and then start investigating and find all this out quick. All this come out within the last seven to 10 days. I don't know when you're putting this out, but within very recently. So that means that 50 had to know about this alleged cooperation.
He still put forth a production of a TV series, highlighting his life, using his son benefiting great monetarily off of it. And now that Meech took a picture with somebody that you hate and have hated for a long time, now all of a sudden he's a rat. That is where I have the biggest issue with this. It's okay that he did it if you're making money off of him and nobody knows it.
But the second he does something that you don't like, now he's a rat. You don't need to deal with him.
Yeah, absolutely. It's very convenient, right? And nobody's looking into what really happened other than Pete. Pete's the only one who will go and say, hmm, I'm going to pull the transcripts and read all these transcripts and all these motions and all this and put this together and find out everything.
My phone's been going off for the last 48 hours, which is great. He gives good information. He highlights the parts in the transcripts to send me. And I probably still didn't do it as good as he did because he broke it down really well on my case.
Some of the things that we found out after me and him done our show, which come out earlier this week, was that the identification of CS2 was another woman. We didn't know that. We still don't know who it is. That's hidden. You can't find that out.
Here's the thing. Pete will do the research and find out what's really going on. And the problem with that is that Pete thinks that that's important. He doesn't really understand social media, that people want this to be true. People want to hate Big Meech. Listen, like I cooperate in my case, right? So like I'm one of the first ones to be like, yep, told you. Everybody does. It told you.
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Chapter 7: What are the implications of life rights in this case?
It's not really bigger anymore because she almost got him jammed up while in prison with a whole nother drug case by doing that. And I mean, like, When you're in jail, it's very hard to have a candid conversation. Unless you're just paying all people to get a room that's not bugged, it's very hard to have a candid conversation in jail to discuss anything.
The only way you can get around it is if that's your lawyer and that wasn't his lawyer. Every phone conversation you have is tapped. Every letter is read, especially with somebody like him. You don't have the privacy to sit down and facilitate a long-term drug deal plan. It's not something that happens. Yeah.
And, and you would know better than any, what you said a minute ago about the movies being made. I always tell people there's two guys that if there's movies aren't made about their life, then it's very difficult to get a movie made. And that's you and Michael Dowd.
Yeah. It's, it's insanely difficult. It's insanely and long. It takes forever.
And you know, you're more a series.
Yeah. Yeah. I hear you, but we tried the series route. That didn't work out. Now we're trying for the movie route. We're talking to screenwriters again. We already tried to write a screenplay, tried to go that route. That didn't work out. Now we're trying to go for the movie route, which, of course, is going to chop a significant amount of my story out.
But whatever, you know, the whole thing is they're like, look, you do a movie and then maybe if the movie is successful, we can maybe then get somebody interested in doing a series. So, you know, listen, I'd like to see something get done, but listen, I'm so jaded by the whole thing. So we'll see.
It's a long process, man. Like you said, I hear people all the time say this should be a movie and all that. And I'm like, look, the guys that I know, the stories that they have, theirs isn't on a movie screen by now. Like I've got no faith. And some of the things that come out are shit, complete shit.
Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can't tell you how many times I've been sitting there thinking, they made this for a hundred million dollar budget, but they can't take 40 or 50 million and make mine. You could make two movies like mine.
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Chapter 8: What is the current status of Big Meech?
But I spoke with Dowd a few years ago. It was in New York. And I think at the time, Ben Stiller owned the rights to his movie, which if Ben played a bad guy, he looks a lot like Michael Dodd. That could probably be a good role for him. But at the time, he hadn't done anything with it. And he said, I'm waiting. He told me at the time it was like next August or something like that.
He's like, it's going to be up. So if you don't do anything with it, I'll get it back. Then when you get it back, you can sell it again. There's been guys that sold them multiple times. I think you've sold them multiple times.
I've had one thing was optioned four different times. I've had another couple that have been optioned two different times because I've written a bunch of true crime stories and I've optioned the rights to those true crime stories. I've been a part of you know, five or six, really be honest, it's like a dozen to be honest, but those were optioned once and the option expired.
But I've been a part of maybe another four that have been optioned multiple times. So the idea that you're gonna, somebody, they option your story, man, I've had a dozen of these things optioned. None of them have ever turned into anything. They've never gone anywhere. And these people have done, it's not like these production companies aren't doing work.
Like there's a significant amount of work that happens after they option it, They're getting screenwriters. They're having meetings. They're going to breakfast and lunch. They're making phone calls. They're doing a significant amount of work on these things. And it just doesn't pan out. You know, it's not that the stories aren't good. It's that, you know, everything has to align perfectly.
And then these actors are a nightmare to deal with. Look at the Blake Lively thing. Like, that's what a catastrophe that is.
And that's blowing up in her face now. Yeah. She was trying to get him jammed up. Now it's kind of blowing, looking bad on her. I mean, her and Taylor Swift weren't talking, man. I don't know what we're going to do about it.
Listen, I cried myself to sleep last night.
I was so glad Philly beat the shit out of Kansas City in that Super Bowl. I'm just sick and tired of seeing Taylor Swift on NFL Sunday. Every time I come on, I hope Travis Kelsey retires.
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