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The Joe Rogan Experience

#2313 - Jillian Michaels

Wed, 30 Apr 2025

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Jillian Michaels is a fitness expert, certified nutritionist, author, and television personality known for  "The Biggest Loser" and "Losing It With Jillian." She is the host of the podcast "Keeping It Real: Conversations with Jillian Michaels." www.jillianmichaels.com 50% off flowers & more with code JOE50 at checkout. Visit https://www.doordash.com/p/mothers-day Take 50% off a SimpliSafe system at simplisafe.com/ROGAN Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: Who is Jillian Michaels and what is this episode about?

4.112 - 5.794 Joe Rogan

The Joe Rogan Experience.

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6.194 - 24.189 Guest

Showing by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. Yes. Good to see you. You too. We were just talking about boomers, about parents, parents that don't want to believe anything other than what they're getting from the news. Yeah.

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24.747 - 41.28 Jillian Michaels

It's been a challenge. My dad is an absolute lost cause. My mom is now open to the conversation and she'll send me a bunch of different articles and then she'll allow me to disseminate from my perspective. But it's been it's been a rough ride.

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41.525 - 63.841 Guest

Yeah, I've got them on peptides now, which is nice. Same. And I've got my stepdad on testosterone replacement, which is nice, and he's seeing benefits of those things. So it's like they're slowly starting to incorporate some of these things. But their whole life they've been told that the doctor knows everything and that the news is always correct and anything contrary to the news is bullshit.

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63.861 - 64.021 Guest

Yeah.

64.928 - 72.774 Jillian Michaels

But arguably, when our parents were our age, it was reliable. I don't think so. No?

Chapter 2: What are the challenges of changing beliefs about COVID and vaccines in families?

72.874 - 76.076 Guest

No, I think it's always been compromised. I just think there was no alternatives.

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76.737 - 77.517 Jillian Michaels

That's interesting.

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77.538 - 78.218 Guest

Yeah, that's what I think.

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78.358 - 84.443 Jillian Michaels

My mom is a psychoanalyst, PhD. This is a very educated, thoughtful woman.

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85.744 - 86.704 Guest

Sometimes that's the worst.

86.824 - 110.223 Jillian Michaels

No, no. I would argue against in this case. I do appreciate people who see flaws in psychoanalysis. But I've learned a huge amount from my mom in this area. And she also majored in journalism before changing careers to psychoanalysis. And so for her to even wrap her head around the fact that journalism can be compromised is almost inconceivable.

110.243 - 126.342 Guest

Right. Right. I didn't mean psychoanalysis is bad. What I meant is that a lot of times educated people defer to other educated people like they're an expert in their field. So they assume that all the other experts in their field are also correct. And any heretic is just a fool.

127.414 - 130.676 Jillian Michaels

I would happen to agree with that point. Yeah.

130.776 - 131.176 Guest

Yeah.

Chapter 3: What are the controversies surrounding mRNA vaccines and COVID-19 origins?

1959.895 - 1964.78 Jillian Michaels

Is it Bad Baby? I said Bad Bonnie the other day, and my kids are like, no, that's the rapper.

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1965.703 - 1980.436 Guest

She says she insisted she'd been cleared for surgery. She has no regrets about her cosmetic tweaks. What does a cosmetic tweak have to do with leukemia? I don't know. They're not going to perform plastic surgery on a cancer patient. What? She's getting plastic surgery? What is this article about?

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1980.457 - 1984.881 Guest

Look at the chronic myeloid leukemia piece because that's the part I know about.

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1985.681 - 1990.306 Guest

She, oh, breaks silence on claims she lied about having cancer after being slammed for vaping.

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1990.606 - 1991.026 Jamie

Oh, God.

1991.106 - 1992.908 Guest

Did she lie about it? I was just showing you.

1992.928 - 1993.148 Jamie

Go back up.

1993.168 - 1995.991 Guest

I don't know if this is true. Because I thought she had like a wig.

1996.011 - 1996.531 Jamie

Go back up, please.

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