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Friends, who wants to play a game? Oh, Elmo does. Me too. Yeah, me three. What should we play, Miss Rachel? I know the perfect game. Let's play hide and seek. And you can play with us too.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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I actually want to play devil's advocate and ask a few questions. I'm 100% with Tom. I think there were a million off ramps. I do think we provoked this, or not us as Americans, but our companies provoked this because we've taken their farming lands. We, as you've educated me on, BlackRock and JP Morgan had the $400 billion contract to go in and rebuild.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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So that said, Ukraine is the loser across the board, as far as I can tell. They have lost all of their resources from what I can, again, what I'm observing. Why would we not? Honestly, I'm not saying continue to fund the war, 100%. No, nobody wants that. We want this over. But why would we not say, listen,

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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If you do this deal and you're so convinced that Putin's going to overstep, should it happen again, we'll step in, we'll help protect you. Why would we not do that if we are invested in extracting minerals and our big ag companies like ADM and Monsanto and Cargill are using their land, they're leasing the breadbasket there? What would be the reason to not give them that assurance?

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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Why would we not provide the assurance that if Russia broke the ceasefire, because this is what he's saying. He's like, you can't trust him. He's going to break the ceasefire. He's going to come in. He's going to... Right. And Trump is saying, no way. No, you have the assurance here. If we do business with you, that's not going to happen. And he's going, I just don't feel that confident.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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I'm not a Zelensky advocate. I'm just asking you... Why would we not say, like, we're sure, but if he oversteps and if he breaks the ceasefire, blah, blah, blah, we'll provide support. Not that I want to be doing that, but if we're taking their minerals, I can kind of see why the request is there.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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It seems Zelensky thinks, again, I'm just playing devil's advocate for the people that I argue with on the other side. And because I'm not an expert in geopolitics, But if I'm Zelinsky, I'm going to want the assurance. If I'm giving away 50% of our minerals, I would ask the same thing.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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No, 100 percent not. But I get this and then I'll drop it. It's just simply because the reason we would make their gated community safer. is out of Zelensky's mouth, I didn't take money, I got weapons. Well, who profited off the weapons? Our defense contractors. Who was forced to reform their laws about their farming land and give up leases to our big ag companies? They were.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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So now our defense contractors are making money. Our big ag contractors are making money. And now we're going to be taking their minerals. And I'm not saying that we shouldn't be defending. I'm simply saying... If we are stripping them of resources and then you've got BlackRock and JP Morgan going in to rebuild, that would be our investment in their gated community. And what happens?

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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Let's just say now Zelensky signs it and Putin does go in. Contrary to what Trump says and what I don't believe will happen, but he does go in and Zelensky's right. Then what actually do we do now that we are invested there? Would we step up to the plate if Putin decided to push further?

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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I did. Just so you know. Listen, I've changed teams, but in all transparency, I worked with the administration on health matters.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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They were very lovely to me. Bill is extraordinarily charismatic, though. For sure. He's got it down to his science. This guy will remember a story about your sick chihuahua 10 years later. He's like, how's Baxter? How's your little dog? And you're just like, wow. I mean.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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Of course. We would never allow it. We're going to build a couple of bases.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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I couldn't agree with you more. I'm just saying if we're trying to bring an end, that's all. I feel like Ukraine has been raped, pillaged, and plundered, and Zelensky's just a puppet, and we obviously installed him through the National Endowment for Democracy and funded that coup that Tom mentioned in 2014, or at least... It sure seems that way.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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And this has all been driven by money, just like you say, follow the money. I just feel like we got, or not we, I don't want to say we, because it's not us in the room. It's not Americans. But whoever wanted this got what they wanted. Whoever provoked this, don't move NATO eastward. We added 14 countries, put it on Putin's border. Like, obviously, you know, you knew what you were doing.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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You got what you wanted. And that's the only part where I'm like, well, OK, you got the farmland, you got the minerals, you got the money for the bombs, you got the contract to rebuild. You can grab all of their resources even further and 35 exit. I just wonder why he wouldn't be like, sure, sure, sure. If he comes in, we'll we'll step in. But I hear everything you're saying.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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And I know Americans don't want that. I'm not saying continue funding it.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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It's like they work half the work week that we do. They've got their health cares covered, and it's all because we pay for the majority of the defense. What is this entitlement that I am baffled by?

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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Did they really, though? Like, I know he was elected. But, I mean, I don't know. I tend to think he was influenced by us. Oh, for sure. If I could say one thing about that Trump-Zelensky. Oh, my God.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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I actually thought Trump, for the vast majority of that meeting, was respectful.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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I thought he was, I watched the whole thing. And for the vast majority, I thought he held it together. You know, there was an arm tap. It was patient. And then, and he called J.D. J.D., not Mr. Vice President. Like, it was building up. And then Trump lost his shit. But it was... You don't have the cards. Yeah, I mean, but I thought he hung on longer than I expected.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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I think it's a generational thing. You know, as a Gen Xer, I remember when Katzenberg said, if you don't come in on Saturday, don't even bother coming in on Sunday. And that was the culture. You know, Elon Musk said here, you know, you bitch about burning the midnight oil. And in China, they're burning the 3 a.m. oil and we're losing AI. I mean, look what Deep Seek just did.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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So for me, as a Gen Xer, that is music to my ears. But try to tell that to a kid who's Gen Z. And you know what's fascinating is that your entire team here is filled with young, aggressive, hungry kids. Thank you. And I cannot figure it out.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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I can't figure out what you've done to condition them to work like they're Gen X because I, you know, I meet with these kids. I will not take an executive assistant because every time I sit down with one of them, they're like, well, well, what's the, well, what's the vacation time and, and what's the pay and what are my benefits? Not, Hey, I researched your company.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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I see that you do X, Y, and Z. I think I can contribute this to the table based on my background and that. You don't have that anymore. When I was a kid, you showed up first and you left last, and that's how you got ahead. So I love it, but is that realistic for America and for our younger generation? I don't know.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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That's when they don't answer the phone. It's like the quiet quitting. They just literally fake it and continue to make it. I don't know how. It's fascinating.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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Do you agree with him on Fetterman? Hold on, hold on, hold on. He's making valid points.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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With that said, there is something vastly different between Fetterman and Trump. Trump...

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is a businessman he's an exceptionally successful businessman and I'm not an economist I am not an expert in geopolitics but as I have sought to understand some of the things he's doing with our economy and our relationships around the world I've come to appreciate listen he does a lot of things I don't like but I've come to appreciate that in many ways he's brilliant and

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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And it's from talking to people like you, learning what's behind what he's doing. That's not Fetterman. So while Fetterman is down to earth and he's not afraid to call bullshit on his own party, and they're definitely going to need that. There's no question.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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Fetterman is not Trump, and I don't see him – when you were talking to me last night, explaining how Taiwan is bringing their chips to America and what a big deal that is and why Trump is doing X, Y, Z and then showing me how.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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You think Fetterman is going to be capable of that? I don't think so.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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they just keep digging. Dude, it's, these are 80, 20 issues. 80% of the country is against biological males in girls sports. And there's no point where they're like, did anybody get this memo? Like we're getting our asses kicked on these issues. This is not a popular position. And they continue to quadruple down.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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I was actually talking to Cenk Uygur the other day and he said something that made perfect sense. He's like, somewhere the corporate left And the woke far left had a marriage that none of us knew about. And they're locked into this path of self-destruction.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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And the reason I actually understood what Bill was saying about Fetterman is because I do think it's going to be the Democrat that goes, this is bananas. These guys are crazy. And they need a hostile takeover of their party. Buy a guy that's not afraid to call them out on their bullshit. But after Adam and Vinny just went today, it's certainly not Fetterman.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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From what I understand of this, historically speaking, this could go the wrong way, but I don't actually think that's what he's doing. I read The Art of the Deal 15 years ago, but one of the things that I remember and we've taken away when we negotiate our own contracts is you ask for the sun, the moon, the stars. And then if you land on the moon, you're doing great.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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I wonder if this is not exactly that. I mean, that said, and not to relitigate what we discussed last night, but when you explained to me that this strategy in particular is what's bringing people into the country to manufacture chips here, like what we just saw with Taiwan. Maybe he's legitimately serious. I'm kind of sitting back and waiting to see how everything Trump's doing will play out.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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I'm so sorry. Can I grab my inhaler? Yeah, of course. Go for it. You guys, I'm so, so sorry. No, they'll grab it for you.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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Gosh, the one who is the least woke and seems to put their head down and do the best job and focus on the issues at hand. I originally said Josh Shapiro. But I didn't realize that there may or may not be some scandal in his background. He's not my governor. But when I look at the landscape... I don't know who they've got. They've all just completely lost it.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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Remember when Klobuchar used to make sense 100,000 years ago? It's just they've all completely moved so far left that I just don't think they have a candidate, which is why guys like Bill are grasping at straws like Fetterman. Remember? I remember.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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when she said listen I'd love to staple a diploma under everybody's chair here in the room and give you free health care and free college and free this and free that but it doesn't work that way and her search went up exponentially overnight because people knew she wasn't bullshitting them she was telling the truth now she's just unrecognizable to me politically and I I guess I would say Shapiro

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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Tom can't even imagine one of them as the president, so he just dropped it down to governor of California.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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It's not even going to be cleaned up. By the time this guy has to run, there's no plan to clean it up. You realize that? There's nobody in charge of this mess. Literally, there's no one cleaning up the wreckage and the carnage out there. And this is going to haunt him. I disagree. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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I don't think they're, listen, a lot of them have moved to a place where they're never Trumpers anymore. But I would vote for a Republican. Just never Trump. That's what you end up hearing. They don't do any homework on the fact that the things they're outraged about, their own party did nothing. 10 times more of, for example, immigration, illegal immigration.

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It's like, well, you know, Clinton deported 12 million people. You know, Obama deported 3 million people, and Trump deported one. Like, where was your outrage? Those are Obama's cages. Did you do any homework? I mean, Biden ruled back all of Trump's border policies, and with the swipe of a freaking pen, they could have stopped this, but they didn't. So beyond the fact that

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So I'm happy. It was incredible. If it wasn't for the carpaccio, I was out, man.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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You know, listen, they've planted their flag. They're blue. But they really do hate this guy. He is hated throughout the state. I'm seeing it more and more with people that are far, far left. And you're starting to hear things like, I would vote for a Republican, just never Trump.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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But if you give them someone that is more moderate, that they can kind of get their head around. No, I don't think so.

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I don't know what... Because they've been hit the hardest by it, Pat. That's why.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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No. OK, here's why. There's a joke about lesbians. So you've got female energy squared. Right. What do they bring on a first date? A U-Haul. That is not a joke about straight men or gay men. In other words, women instantaneously are like, oh, my God, I love you. Let's move in together. That's a notoriously female thing. So you get two of us together, and that's where you end up.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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So I'm going to say no. A lot of my guy friends, they take a long time. They're very discerning. And women nowadays, I'm sorry to say this. This is going to be very unpopular. But I think that they sleep around too much, and I think they give themselves away too easily. I think that makes men lose interest pretty quickly. And I find that all my guy friends tend to wait for the girl.

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Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

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That made – or fall for the girl. That made them wait. I know that's not going to be popular, but it's what I've observed over the course of my lifetime.

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I did have a boyfriend when I was 17. Did you say you love him? I did love him.

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I don't know that I was super duper attracted, but he was lovable.

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Yeah. Okay, then I got to think of pretty much every freaking girlfriend because that's what girls do. And I think I've had, I don't know, like seven of them. Thank you.

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I mean, I'm old. I don't know if it's that I'm a player or just a lot of time under my belt.

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All those bitches. Oh, my God. All those bitches. Too many to count. I love it. Yeah.

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Like when a dog pees on a tree, but it's like a girl. It's got to be like. It's marked. Yeah.

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And then Vinny's going to take me to the hospital. Yeah, I got you. Oh, Jillian, I'm so sorry.

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They still infect you. It's unbelievable. Ungrateful little bastards. Vinny gets them from other kids.

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We canceled. Just shut it down already. I have an inhaler in the other room if you need it to recover from that. Well, guys, no, Tom, because, I mean, your beer is horrible.

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No. No way. No way. Somebody knows all of it already. They do. If they get involved with her, it implies a connection. Last night, Vinny was talking about how if Trump pardoned her, he's voting for Kamala.

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And that's it. I think it's who was behind the entrapment piece that they don't want us to know. Of course not. The entire operation, I think, is the scandal. Right. I mean, because it's like, okay, Prince Andrew, blah, blah, blah, maybe Michael Jackson. Okay, no one's shocked to hear that celebrities are creepy, perverted, or deviant. It's not new news.

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That is horseshit. That's exactly what I'm saying. That's why we're never going to know.

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God, and you're right, that's another thing we're never going to know.

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I thought it was CIA. Maybe he could be both. I didn't realize it was confirmed. It was FBI.

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Edward Norton. That's right, Adam. That's the first thing I thought about. That's right. Yeah, man. You think so? That's what I'm talking about.

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Jillian Michaels

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Oh my gosh. I think it goes without saying, but I'm glad that me liking your show matters. I now see Joe Rogan deferring to your positions, but I'm glad that she could get excited about me being a fan. That's great.

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Jillian Michaels

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I think that what happened is you're absolutely right. It began with our parents who bought into it's affordable. It's convenient. I remember my little microwave breakfast in plastic that had two little pancakes. Two little sausages and like, you know, God knows the chemicals. I would frigging bake that in plastics. And my mom was like, we are winning. That is two minutes. It's ready to go.

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Jillian Michaels

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It's healthy. It's a real breakfast. And we're out the door. She didn't know any better. And even still, my evolution in health and wellness was about losing weight and looking skinny. And then it became... Diet foods and lean cuisine was healthy.

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Jillian Michaels

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There really wasn't information up until I quite honestly want to say the early 2000s when you saw the rise of the crunchy liberals I mentioned previously. But when you look deeper at how this happened. And I'm going to steal a page from Cali Means book. It's in the 80s when the big tobacco companies bought the big food companies and they ran their playbook.

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Jillian Michaels

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But if we want to go back farther, Dave, it starts with big ag being captured and corrupted through the first incarnation of the farm bill. And basically, long story short, how this evolved is that we have spent over the last 20 years a half of a trillion dollars in our tax dollars going towards genetically engineered seeds.

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Jillian Michaels

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that are covered in chemicals that were derived from chemical warfare, like Agent Orange. So now when you've got frankincorn and frankenweed and this, that, the other, and you have subsidized it and it's exceptionally cheap and exceptionally poisonous and nutrient empty, Big Food grabs it.

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Jillian Michaels

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They take their team of multidisciplinary scientists that study your kids' behavior and yours, that have learned how to target the bliss point in your brain so you can't eat just one and absolutely brag about it, which is even more confusing.

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Jillian Michaels

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Don't worry. You will be overweight and unhealthy because you cannot eat just one. We gotcha. And then big pharma is the third piece of this toxic triad. And they swoop in and they medicalize everything and they pay off all of the studies. I mean, let's be honest. This system is rigged from top to bottom. And we're just starting to wake up to that, I think, in a big way.

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Jillian Michaels

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And moms is, in my opinion, are always where the grassroots movements start and take hold. Thank goodness.

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Jillian Michaels

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But you know why they're not saying anything about it is because they've also been captured by special interests. And it's funny that you bring up marginalized communities here. These soda companies target children of color two to one. Where is all your systemic racist talk now? Where is the outrage now? Not a peep. They literally go after...

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Jillian Michaels

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their heroes, their celebrities, to capture their kids like pied pipers of fast food addiction, and nobody's mad. They go after the poor with programs like SNAP, or I think it's called Women and Children, programs that we have, food programs, for people who are...

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Jillian Michaels

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less wealthy, not as well off, however you want to marginalize, however you want to describe it in the most politically correct way possible. Nevertheless, they are absolutely targeted. They are the ones that are being preyed upon. They are the ones that are being marketed to, and they're the ones that are having this crap forced down their throat. But should you question whether or not

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Jillian Michaels

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sodas should be removed from programs like SNAP, food stamps program, that's racist. Because now you're denying, I swear to God, and again, I wanna give credit where credit is due, this is Callie Means pointed this out a couple of years ago now, Because like the Hispanic Freedom League or the NAACP is taking such massive donations from the fast food companies and the soda companies in particular.

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Jillian Michaels

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They run right out there and they're like, this is racist for you to take away these valuable calories from children of color who are in poverty. It is diabolical when those kids are being targeted by those bastards two to one. Yeah.

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Jillian Michaels

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I was exceptionally liberal pre-COVID. And I am guilty of understanding why you might close a gym at the time when the hospitals were overrun. And I had caught it from a friend, and I was perfectly fine. But it was obviously very transmissible. And at that time, we were worrying about our parents, and we didn't know who was vulnerable, and you were hearing all kinds of craziness.

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Jillian Michaels

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You know, like there, there is truth to the fact that like, Dave, you are 100% right. Your, your instinct is absolutely accurate. And I would imagine in upstate New York in this area that was rural and more poor, I guess they're white, right? I mean, now they do target, as I mentioned, people of color two to one. However, They go after poor people across the board.

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And that's why you have these food deserts. All of this is by design. And it's a much longer conversation about how they managed to do it, but it has been going on for just about 100 years. And it started with how they gamed the agriculture so that all of the money went to... And Monsanto's places, you know, the big farming industrial complex, that whole thing.

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And it after World War Two mechanization. And then it's like, oh, no, we've got a rural food issue. OK, let's give more to these genetically engineered crops. It there's a whole history to it. It's exceptionally diabolical. It's dense, but it is absolutely by design. And your instinct is 100 percent right.

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It's ableist. It's racist. It's actually called being ableist. They have labeled people who have done that ableist and racist. And in fact, gosh, I can't remember her name, but there was a doctor who said calling junk food junk food was racist because marginalized people of color needed junk food. And I remember thinking...

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We we have absolutely left Kansas like this is the world has inverted itself. I mean, we're and it was during COVID. But one more thing is the healthy at any size movement.

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Derail the shame narrative. All of this comes from big food. Right. It's not even a question. I encourage people to Google it. There was an expose, believe it or not, in the Washington Post that exposed it. So they're paying registered dietitians and influencers in health online to be promoting those hashtags like derail the shame, healthy at any size. That's all a psyop.

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And then they tapped into this, you're right, white guilt, so that even doctors were afraid to say to their patients of color, you need to lose some weight. Dr. Casey Means talks about it. You're spot on. That's exactly what's happening.

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So when I first heard all of this stuff, like it came from a wet market, and we need to close the gyms, and if we can just control this for two weeks, we're going to get a hold of it. Just two weeks, guys. Just stay strong. And then it's week after week. And all of a sudden the stories don't add up and that science doesn't make sense. And you're seeing all of these incongruencies and policy.

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Not only did it take off. I mean, it was wildly popular. So in my opinion, there are two reasons why. The first one is cancel culture. And I experienced this personally in 2019 from the infamous incident where I was asked by a crappy little interviewer. I don't even know what I was doing on this interview on Buzzfeed. I don't even know what I was doing on Buzzfeed.

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And she asked me if I celebrated Lizzo and Ashley Graham. And I didn't know who Ashley Graham was at the time, but I knew Lizzo because my kid liked her music. And I was like, she's a great artist. Why? And she's like, well, you know, of course, the big question was like, do you celebrate the fact that she's obese?

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I was like, well, of course I don't celebrate the fact that she's obese because if you really like her, you want her to be around for a long time, right? Wouldn't it be terrible if she got diabetes? Oh my God, Dave. It was a catastrophe. AT&T had to deal with my app. They pulled out. I had a post scheduled for this dog food company who was like, we're not going to post her.

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We don't want her working with our company. It was insane. So I think when people see someone else being taken to the gulag, right? Yeah. You know, stoned in the public square. They're terrified into silence. But the other component of this that we are still seeing in spades is the moral superiority and that high which comes from virtue signaling. I am the empathetic one.

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And one from California that was my absolute favorite is what I call the COVID layer. So when you were allowed to go to a restaurant. You had to wear your mask. And when you would walk from the hostess stand to the table, you could catch COVID. So you must wear your mask.

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It reminds me of Ralph Fiennes, with Ralph Fiennes in Schindler's List, where he's like, I pardon you. It's truly evil, actually. And it's purely about your own ego and making yourself feel holier than thou. But I think it is those two elements of fear and narcissism that have allowed us to become vulnerable to this kind of brain virus, quite literally.

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Not only is it a weird tactic, there were so many fitness people that ended up doing that. And then putting like, oh, we're going to put like obese mannequins in fitness clothes. And we're going to... It was absolutely exactly what you're talking about. There's one woman in particular who shall remain nameless. But...

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had a bit of an eating disorder, but was fairly large in fitness, is less well-known now, but still pretty well-known, and appealed greatly to more millennials slash Gen Z,

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But once you sit down and you begin eating and talking with other people in a room filled with other people, you see you were below the COVID layer. And at that point, I was like, this is awesome. Bananas. You started to see absolute madness and inconsistencies and hypocrisy and silencing doctors that were exceptionally credible.

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you're totally right it's absolutely part of the problem and the even greater irony is all of those virtue signalers like oprah then turned around and jabbed themselves with ozempic at the very first opportunity yeah oh my god the hypocrisy is staggering absolutely staggering and it's It's exactly that. It's like, how can I elevate myself as a really good person?

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And how can I feel better than you or make myself feel better? feel and appear better than the people who are saying the opposite. And then there are the people that are just legitimately scared. Doctors that are legitimately scared to tell their patients they need to lose weight because they're worried they'll get sued. And this is real. It's called medical McCarthyism.

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And I hear about it from all the different doctors that I interview all the time. And it's from COVID to obesity and everything in between.

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And I started to feel like Neo in the Matrix, like I think many of us did.

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Like there is never blame the victim, but there is such a thing as healthy shame. It's also when you commit a crime, when you do something unethical, when you hurt somebody, there's a healthy shame to that. Don't do that. That's the wrong thing to do. That's a shitty thing to do.

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My mom's a psychoanalyst and we've actually had long talks about what healthy shame looks like and what it's intended to do. And it's to help people evolve into becoming a better person. Or if somebody is tending towards sociopathy. quickly sweeping them back into line. But when people are calling out facts that we can conclusively say are facts, you know, the earth is not flat, right?

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Being obese is unhealthy. I mean, there's a robust amount of data to back this up. When you are attacking people for calling out facts, and subsequently wanting to question the existing norm and orthodoxy, man, there is some evil happening there across the board.

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I totally agree with you. And it feels like the Wizard of Oz when the Wicked Witch actually melts. It's like the sun comes out and everybody. Now, I do think it's, you know, page one of the book that has yet to be written. I think it's going to be Trench Warfare and you're seeing it across the board site.

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everybody resist just resist to resist oh my god the sky is falling and and and you've got all the propaganda whipping up the people on the left and it's like everybody's hitlerian and the world's gonna end and whatever and they're it's so crazy though because what they're fighting for i don't even think they realize like when you watched bobby kennedy's hearings

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And he's sitting there saying, we need to ask, why are vaccine injuries happening? We need to ask, why has autism gone from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 36? And everyone is demonizing this guy. And they're loving their politicians who take millions from big pharma. I just... We've got a long way to go, and I am exceptionally optimistic, but I wouldn't get complacent.

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That's all I'm saying is it's going to be an uphill battle. And I do know, not to talk out of turn. But to get Kennedy confirmed, concessions did have to be made. And I don't know how public any of that is or not, but it obviously goes without question that it's like you will bend a knee to a certain extent. We even saw some of that with Tulsi and the whole FISA situation.

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It's like to get there, you will have to make some – you'll have to give some stuff up along the way. So I – It's way better than where we were, but I know it's going to be an uphill battle. And I think what I'm trying to do is encourage people to stay vigilant and to be patient.

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You're totally right. That's why when I was sitting with Callie, I had lost all hope just because it's so entrenched and these special interests are so powerful. And the reality is you talk about it with military industrial complex and you understand all of this regime change. And I listen to you talk. I'm like, whoa, I learned so much from you.

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And it's as corrupt and as deep as that in my line of work. And if you even want to take it a step further, if we could put on our tin hats for a second and go down the rabbit hole, when you look at who owns the big ag companies, the controlling share, and then who owns the big food companies, controlling share, same for pharma, same for big insurance companies, it's all corrupt.

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the same companies it's blackrock it's vanguard state street and it's like in other words my point is that the reach is so great and the incentive is so powerful that it's not going to be easy. It's definitely a David and Goliath story. So we will take each and every little win. And this is why you're to take the, I hate to say this, but it is like, stay woke, like stay aware, stay vigilant.

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Don't, don't allow yourself to be placated because they give up one out of 10,000 chemicals that have made it through a loophole in the FDA. Everyone's like, look at this red 40 winner. Like, Yay. I'm thinking, are you kidding? That is a snowflake on the tip of an iceberg. And we don't have any idea how big that fucker is under the ocean. It's bad. It's as deep and scary as it can possibly get.

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It is absolutely by design. That is not conspiracy theory or hyperbole. And so again, I don't want to be a downer. I want to be, this is wonderful. And we're all waking up and we're all forcing change, but we need to stay in that headspace. That's all I'm saying is to stay very present and aware and not allow ourselves to be placated.

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Be vigilant and be supportive like you're talking about in every way you possibly can.

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Just go to JillianMichaels.com. All the different branches of what I do lives there.

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I really appreciate it. And hopefully I can turn the table on you soon.

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I said hello and goodbye. And thank you.

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I could not agree with you more. And unfortunately, there were so many examples just like that. And it just began to grow my concern exponentially. And if you as you begin to look a little bit deeper, it's like, God forbid, you pull on one thread when the whole facade starts to fall away. It gets pretty friggin nefarious, Dave.

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Let's call it a shot.

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I don't think that that is the argument they're actually making. Vaccines, now listen, this is my personal position. So we can get this out of the way from go. Two things can be true at once, right? Vaccines can save lives and they can also cause tremendous injury.

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Now it's more rare, but we don't really understand what causes vaccine injury and asking the right questions, mitigating how many vaccines a human being gets from birth to 18 years old. These are conversations we need to be having. Now, the COVID shot vaccine, I was just talking to Dr. Heather Heng, Brett Weinstein's wife, and she's like, it's gene therapy. This is not a vaccine.

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Thank you for having me. I literally tried to find Adderall to keep up with you today. I don't take it. I was like, does anybody I know take it? How am I going to be on Dave's show? I mean, I have been watching you for years now and learning from you, and I'm really excited to be on. I'm going to do my best today.

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So that's out of the mouth of a PhD. This is big business. I don't think these people are advocating for health. It's big business. I think that is what their agenda actually is. And when the conversation did start to become about health, you saw the pushback. And I don't believe in my entire life I have ever seen an individual quite so demonized as Bobby Kennedy. I mean, he eats dogs.

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Do you remember that one?

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That was in, I think that was actually in Newsweek, so help me God, or Vanity Fair. He eats dogs. He is a predator. He is deranged. He's got worms in his brain. I mean, the attacks were relentless and vicious as soon as it became about, I don't know, childhood obesity, infertility, autism. Man, it was a whole different animal at that time.

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The most on health care, by the way.

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I certainly hope that's the case. I remember speaking with Callie Means, who I'm going to presume you're... Okay, I figured. So Callie is one of the masterminds behind this Maha Maga union. And this has to be about a year ago. And we were sitting down talking on a podcast. And I was pretty... feeling that the situation as it stands for Americans and health was pretty dystopian.

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And I didn't have a ton of autism, a ton of optimism about it. And I remember after Callie was like, listen, I'm working on something. It's going to get better. It's going to change. I was like, it's never getting better. And it's never going to change because special interests are too powerful. And they have a grip on our politicians. And they're the ones that are pulling the strings.

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And there was no politics. possible way unless you reform campaign finance. And here, Dave, here we are. So credit to where credit is due because you're absolutely right. This is not a new message. If you go back to a book that I wrote over 15 years ago called Master Your Metabolism, I mean, I talk about red number 40. Like... This is not new news. It was a more liberal movement for sure.

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If you looked at Marion Nestle and Maria Rodale and Mark Bittman and Mark Hyman and Michael Pollack, we were all raging liberals. Nevertheless. It went nowhere, nothing changed, and it only got worse. So how this magic moment occurred, I think it's multifactorial. I think COVID was a part of it. I think people were completely disenfranchised with both political parties.

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I think you had a few brilliant people with their hearts in the right place, and a little bit of magic has happened. Now, how much he will be able to achieve remains to be seen, but I promise you, that he is far better than the alternative. And if I could point out just a few things. If we were to criticize the fact that he's not an M.D.

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or a Ph.D., neither is Xavier Becerra, who was head of HHS before him. And if we're going to ask questions about childhood vaccines, and that's deeply alarming to do and demand gold standard research and what have you and have placebo groups like this is so scary and why would we do such a thing? But let's let's say that's really you're alarmed.

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Xavier Becerra and the Biden administration moved to remove, I promise you, Google it, it's true, any age restriction on gender-affirming care, which is a really fancy way of saying a sterilization, taking away a child's ability to have an orgasm, interrupting their brain while it's developing in puberty.

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I mean, the atrocities, quite honestly, associated with medicalizing the transition of children To do that at any age and remove any and all restrictions, where was the outrage about any of the crap that they did or didn't do? Not a peep.

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But then you have a guy that wants to facilitate real change and has been given that mandate and everyone's up in arms fighting for the pharmaceutical companies and gene therapy as vaccines. It's surprising.