Talking Counter
Episode 125: assorted scene news, PGL Cluj Playoffs - quarterfinals matchups and bracket
Thu, 20 Feb 2025
moses, SPUNJ, and YNk are in a triple timezone threat but still Talking Counter.Join our Discord to discuss the episode with other viewers. Stick around, watch events, and Talk Counter!https://discord.gg/kmYSfTng00:00 Intro17:40 the fringe of interesting33:00 Valve changes to the VRS system47:50 a little bit about Spirit vlogs1:03:40 PGL Cluj mouz v paiN1:18:00 PGL Cluj Mongolz v Astralis1:22:18 PGL Cluj FaZe v Saw1:23:20 PGL Cluj Eternal Fire v Falcons
Chapter 1: What are the key matchups in the PGL Cluj Playoffs?
So I just had a document in the background that I needed to cover.
A document. Is it your shred book for Anubis?
No, it's to do with my property tax or something that I have to pay. So I kind of wanted to cover that.
It's that fun time of year, isn't it?
I paid like nine grand worth of bills in the last five days. And I'm just like, I'm over paperwork. I'm fucking I'm done. I just don't want any more bills to come in the door. They just keep coming though. There's more paperwork had to make fucking resume today. Thanks to grok shout out to grok one time unironically used AI to help me do something. So that was nice.
resume.
Yeah, look, so for visa shit, mate, fucking visa nonsense.
visa things.
Yeah, not that not like MasterCard. So yeah, we like do who do we like more visa or MasterCard? Which one's gonna sponsor the show or AMX?
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Chapter 2: What changes did Valve implement to the VRS system?
I thought, yeah, I was surprised. I was wondering if the desk is going to move as well or not. But I guess since it's there, easy enough.
Did you guys see this clip on the subreddit? It's amazing. This ancient titled clip of the year.
Yeah, I saw it.
No, I didn't see it. That is an incredible clip of Counter-Strike.
What happened?
He's a main. Yeah, you should. He's a main. It's like a five second clip. He goes for a swing. He pre aims the planter. And I guess the first bullet that he shoots, he's still moving because it goes sideways and it kills two guys simultaneously in completely different parts of the bomb site.
Really?
Yeah, it's it's a two for one. It's like I don't even know how to explain it.
Is it called Edge of Tomorrow Vibes?
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Chapter 3: What insights can we gather from the Spirit vlogs?
I guess he's very low.
But I guess, is it the low HP guy or is that the headshot guy? Would be the question.
Well, you'd hope the defuser is the headshot guy, right?
You'd hope so.
I think so, yeah.
It's a mental clip. I'll throw it into the podcast.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The first kills, wait. Wait.
Exactly. I don't know what happens. The first kill is the guy on the left, no?
But watch. Pause it.
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Chapter 4: How did mouz perform against paiN in the playoffs?
It's fitting that they changed their jerseys to black and white because it did look like an obituary for Astralis. Which is funny because they made the playoffs of Cluj and it's like you just did a good thing. Now you had a boo-boo. What's going on? Although not making the playoffs, you know, with five or whatever, six of the top ten teams not attending would be also a disaster for them.
Exactly. Yeah, no, look, okay, so there's a couple things to unpack here. I don't really want to talk about the matchup against Heroic because I have certain feelings about the Heroic team at the moment until they get some more experience. I think I've mentioned it before.
Second... You feel like their level drops off on LAN.
I feel like they're not very experienced at the moment in the purest of domains, which will come with time, but currently they are more comfortable in their houses. Second, the new Astralis jersey. I know people are like, why did they do a black jersey? Everybody has black and white jerseys. Who cares? Who cares? Why do we care so much about jerseys? Who really cares? Also, it looks fine.
It doesn't look bad. Their old one was really cool. This one is still cool. And I don't really care about the color. I'm just looking at the jersey.
I do like the centralized logo with the stars above it. I think that looks sweet.
Yeah, I think it's fine. It's fine, Jersey. It's all good. Who really cares about, like, who gives a fuck? Are you buying a Jersey? Are you someone buying it? Who's buying a Jersey? What are you, a fucking six-year-old boy, and you're going to watch the game? Like, what are we talking about, man?
I will say, I did get the impression when I was watching the, like, announcement video, I'm like, when did we start turning all the esports teams into, like, boy bands? And, like, it's been going on for a while, but, like, I feel like we don't need to have something dramatic.
Well, they're the models for the Jersey, Jason.
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Chapter 5: What happened in the Astralis vs. Mongolz match?
Yeah, whatever. Washing machine. Sorry.
You just woke up. I always forget about that.
No, I didn't. It's noon. I've been awake for five hours.
I got no excuse. He doesn't have that excuse going for him.
Chapter 6: What are the implications of FaZe's performance against Saw?
So, Chad, how does it feel to be on your... third event in a row hitting?
Yeah, good, good, good, good. I one of the things that like I spoke to Alex about this before. And I said to him that if we're going to go on like an event run, because we have some more events coming up in a stretch before we get a lengthier break, we got to stay on top of things. So we there's a few things that I said, I said, we can't get sick.
We can't get was the other one can't get heartbroken. And sure, one more thing. It was one more. I forget what the last one was.
Can't get lazy? Got to exercise?
Well, yeah, but that's probably it. But that kind of goes into the getting sick one. Sick, heartbroken.
You can't get like, probably like a mental, you can't be on the grind. You can't be going crazy on the grind.
Yeah, so like Alex has been coming to the gym with me every day, which is nice. Making sure we're going outside and experiencing the water. It was very snowy in Bucharest. We're still going outside there, which kind of sucked at times.
But just making sure you're not rotting in the hotel room, which you can definitely do if you're at events like this, especially if it's more of a in and out of the office, like studio type environment, which it was for the group stage. And just staying on top of things mentally. So that's kind of the big thing at the moment.
Yeah.
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Chapter 7: What does the future hold for the PGL Cluj event?
All right. So shout out to Joey.
Apologies for intermittently.
No, I think it's funny as fuck.
I just don't know where we start with tonight's actual conversation. Obviously, it's the playoffs of the PGO Occlusion Poker 2025 event.
Yeah. This might be a fluff episode, boys. There might not be a whole lot we need to dive into.
Do you think the Oxygen guy is cheating? Oh, here we go.
The Bulgarian from 500. Okay, so I think the thing is the clips, if I was actually gonna make a statement on it, there's a lot of things that I would wanna go and do. So first of all, I would wanna make sure that I had the context of the entire match. So first of all, I'd wanna watch the entire match. Then I'd wanna watch the pop demos. Then I'd watch the POV demos without x-ray.
Then I would want to look at lots of the other matches that he's played before. Maybe go on Skybox Edge and look at the parting he did have on other Mirage games. And then I would probably sit there and I could make a claim. But otherwise, I would feel that I wouldn't be holding my position up very fairly if I was just to say, yeah, because four fucking clips I saw on Twitter.
Did you think anything was suspicious when you watched it or not?
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