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Episode 382 - Greg Anderson

Mon, 14 Apr 2025

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Greg Anderson was a Law Enforcement Officer for the Port of Seattle Police Department. He posted an 8-minute video to his personal Instagram page in which he called for his fellow Law Enforcement Officers to consider the impacts of their actions on public trust, and the legality/constitutionality of enforcing strict pandemic/quarantine measures, an act for which he was eventually terminated. Greg is a veteran of the United States Army where he served as part of the 75th Ranger Regiment. Post military he worked overseas as a contractor for Triple Canopy before joining the US Marshal Service, then as a Police Officer in Los Angeles, and eventually as an officer at the Port of Seattle in Washington. He is a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Black Belt and the owner of Electric Jiu Jitsu North in Lake Stevens. He is also the host of the Endless Endeavor Podcast. Electric North Jiu Jitsu: https://www.theelectricnorth.com/ Endless Endeavor: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/endless-endeavor-with-greg-anderson/id1520461765 Today's Sponsors: Montana Knife Company: https://www.montanaknifecompany.com/ LMNT: https://www.drinklmnt.com/clearedhot Get your free LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase. Also, don't forget to try the new LMNT Sparkling — a bold, 16-ounce can of sparkling electrolyte water.

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Chapter 1: What project is being discussed at the start?

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the show. Before we get into it, I want to talk about a project that I was doing with Ironclad, of which the second episode should be releasing, I think, the same day that this podcast is coming out. I did a four-part series with them called Black Projects.

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Specifically, we were diving into the history of UAPs, or Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon, also known as UFOs for normal people. And it was a pretty cool experience. Visually rich, historically rich, a lot of information. It's available now. At the end of today's show, I'm going to add a 60-second trailer that you can watch if you want to.

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You're already here for the podcast, so hang in there for 60 seconds at the end and check it out. If you like what you see, head over to the Ironclad YouTube page and you can watch it for yourself. Okay, enough about that. Today's episode is with... Greg Anderson, repeat guest. He first came on the podcast slightly into the beginning of COVID. He was in the military.

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He worked in law enforcement at a federal level and state level. He hit my radar when he made a video in his police car while working for I believe the Port Authority of Seattle. If I'm incorrect in that, that's my fault, not his.

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Talking in my words, again, describing his video to other police officers about what their roles and responsibilities maybe actually should be during the pandemic and what they should consider as valid and legal and perhaps immoral and illegal when it came to what they were being told to do. He ended up losing his job because of that video. And... I bet. Actually, I think I asked him on the show.

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He wouldn't take it back for the world. He's a high level jujitsu practitioner. Apparently, he's very good at arm bars. I wouldn't know because he's never arm bar me. What do you think about that, Greg? And he's got a podcast called Endless Endeavor, an awesome jujitsu school on the West Coast, north of Seattle, I believe it is, Electric North Jujitsu. And it was awesome to catch up with him.

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And, you know, we never really know what we're going to talk about. Probably got a little bit off the rails at times. He believes in the power of crystals. We definitely talked about that. So, yeah, episode 382 is going to be with Greg Anderson. Before we get to that, though, give me 90 seconds. Let me pay the bills. Today's episode is brought to you by Montana knife company. Go back.

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I don't know. I'm right here on the YouTube channel right now. Go back three episodes to three 79. I flew down and did an episode with Josh Smith, the founder of Montana knife company, born in Montana, but he kind of left for a good amount of time and came back, but we'll give it to him. This brand is exploding in the time that I have known him, and it's really cool to see what he is doing.

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Chapter 2: What was Greg Anderson's controversial video about?

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That is later than a lot of those guys started.

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565.922 - 580.956 Greg Anderson

No, and he told me that. I remember one night after practice, he's like, man, I wish I started when I was younger. It's like, dude, you're only the reigning world champion. First off, motherfucker, I found this when I was 40, so I don't want to hear you. I don't want to hear any of that talk. But when I walked into his academy, I was a brown belt from Seattle.

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Um, and I'm not, I knew like, listen, I'm not a fucking world champion level grappler, but there was no one in Seattle that made me feel like an infant either. There's guys that could beat me, but I was always in the fight to a certain extent.

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You're back and forth.

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And I walked into Boucher's academy. And the funny thing is, is I didn't even know who he was at the time. It was, it was the summer before he won his first black belt world title. And he's just this 23 year old kid that was coaching on the side to earn some extra money, sleeping on couches.

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And no one really, like the people that were really into the scene is like, Hey, this guy's the up and comer. But outside of that, no one really knew who he was. And I just signed up there because it worked with my schedule and my commute. I fucking trained with this dude. And after he, what he did to me on night one, I told him, I said, Hey, I'm not trying to be like silly.

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This isn't a, I'm not being pejorative as you put it. I said, I'm being serious. I think I need to start over at white belt under you.

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Did you have a drive home with no radio playing?

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Like it was the next week of my life because it's like, dude, I know I'm a good athlete. I know I have pretty good jujitsu at that. By that time I'd had a few MMA fights and just I, I didn't think there was another man that could still do that to me. And it was like that, oh shit moment. You know, that first, oh shit moment you have when the first time you feel real jujitsu.

Chapter 3: How has Greg's experience in law enforcement shaped his views?

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And that's what every cop, like almost every cop that I know, the young ones that are new are go-getters. And anytime I talk about this, I always am careful because like, I'm not shooting on the profession. And if you're a hard charger and you're a cop and you like your job, by all means, continue to do that job.

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But there's a ton of cops out there that feel trapped because they have 10 years left. They don't know what else to do. And they're like, well, I get my retirement when I'm 57. And so I have to be here for another 12 years. And they're miserable. And it's a scary place to arrive because people feel stuck.

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But statistically, if you just keep grinding that out and then you finally reach that retirement, your heart gives out a couple of years later.

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Well, how do you deal with that low level of vibration? Because even the guys who love the job, they're still dealing with that shit. What could you change about that profession that would help with that? I mean, nobody calls 911 to say, hey, I'm having a great day. It's all somebody's shittiest day. And it's so funny to me how much of an emphasis is placed on veterans and post-traumatic stress.

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Fucking first responders see orders of magnitude greater than I did overseas. And at least I could metaphorically clock in and clock out because I was going to be on deployment. And my phone doesn't ring when somebody calls 911. I'm just hanging out at my house. First responders are fucking every day, all day. Yeah. And I don't know. How do you change that?

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Bro, I don't think human beings, I don't think we're meant to be exposed to that kind of stuff for 20 or 30 years. I think being a soldier, I think being a patrol officer, I think being a firefighter, I think that those things are a young man's job. Or a young woman. You get people calling in being angry at you. That was Greg Anderson. Made the sexist and misogynistic comment.

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What I've noticed is like, you know, from 20 to 30, like experiencing a lot of those like high stress situations and putting yourself out there and doing those type of hard jobs. But to carry that into your 40s and 50s, I think at that point, people are just doing it because of retirement, right?

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So what do you think, cap it at 35?

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What I think, and I don't even know if this is feasible because you'd have to look at like budgets and available positions and stuff. But if a police officer is a state employee or a county employee, I think we need to start looking at being able to offer positions where it's like, hey, 10 years on patrol. And then you have the option. I'm not saying force people, right?

Chapter 4: What lessons can be learned from Greg's career transition?

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Because how many people sit at home and they're on the couch and they're fucking drinking Coke, eating Doritos, and they're bitching about Biden or they're bitching about Newsom and all these fucking, all these things that... Sure, that anybody would be angry if you fucking fixated on the shit that makes you angry. But what are you doing to make yourself better?

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What are you doing to make yourself happier? And I've tried to intentionally unplug from the stuff that's triggering and just put all my energy into the stuff that's going to enrich my life and the lives of others. Now, with that said, yeah, do we still have 10,000 rounds in my body armor and my gun safe? Like if shit goes sideways, guys like you and I are going to be fine.

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one way or another, so why do we need to fixate on that all the time? And I think it's unhealthy, man.

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I mean, I don't have 10,000 rounds.

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Yeah, you probably have 100,000 rounds. I was gonna say, those are rookie numbers.

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Fucking rookie numbers. No, it's tough too because, I mean, we all carry an anxiety rectangle around. That fucking thing is in our pocket. It's, God, it's amazing how addictive some of those things are. They're designed to be, and it all has bias. I had a guy on, he works, he has a company called Artorias and it's an open source aggregation tool. The app isn't out yet.

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I actually just got an email though from one of the guys in the company. It's a fascinating principle and I'll be curious to see how it is. it pulls as much data as possible on the internet, open source, OSINT, and aggregates that into the app. And it allows you, and it just declares upfront, like, this is an article from this angle with this type of bias.

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But it'll allow you to a little bit left, right, left, right. You know what I mean? It's a little bit more, I would say, wholesome approach. Now, of course, you could skew it and only trend towards things that you wanted to. But I don't know of another portal out there for information

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where it is doing the best job possible to aggregate from all sides, presenting the information without editorializing it, declaring where the bias is, and then letting people work it out on their own. I like that idea.

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