Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
EXPOSING THE STEVIE WONDER ALICIA KEYS SCAM | FBI AGENT FRAUD STORIES
Tue, 13 May 2025
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Chapter 1: What crime story is highlighted in this episode?
They called it the Stevie Wonder blunder. $187,000 from 15 different clients. Stole $9 million with a fake Alicia Keys concert. Sean White convinces her, sell me your arrow key for $2,000. Are we doing this? Yeah.
We're ready. We're rolling.
We doing this? Yeah.
I'm trying to think. Yeah.
Hello, Matt Cox. Oh, gosh.
Yes. Thanks for having me back. Yeah, no problem. Do you cut that out?
I think I'll leave him in. I'll leave him in. You should leave him in.
It's the immediate... You're completely uninterested in anything I'm saying. And then Colby says, okay, we're rolling. Hello, Matt Cox.
We're talking about other guests on the show. I'm a jealous man. I want to be your one and only, Matt.
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Chapter 2: How did the fake Alicia Keys concert scam unfold?
And I have her initial at the top and the bottom of the page and initial at the crossouts we do. And I have her sign the bottom while we're eating fries together at Zippy's. And, and then, you know, and then she signed the confession. I thanked her very much. She said, what happens next? It's not up to me. I've got to take this case to my supervisors. I've got to take this case to the prosecutor.
And then we'll figure out where we go from here. And then I shook her hand. I took her photo. I said, listen, this is going to seem kind of weird. I need to get a photo of you. She goes, why? I go, in case you disappear. And I go, and so I pull out my phone. And I go, you know, no one ever smiles when I do this. And I go, but you're allowed to smile. You look great. You're a beautiful woman.
And so she gives me this big smile. She's sitting there at the counter and at the booth. Take a photo of her. Thank her so much. We get in our respective cars and leave. A month later, came back, arrested her, brought her back to Honolulu.
Oh, my God.
What does the FBI agent with you say?
Does he walk off and say, wow, you just got her to sign the confession?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I got that a lot from my colleagues. I was really good at getting the confession throughout the course of my career. I went to FBI interrogation schools, went to CIA interrogation schools. I taught interrogation. I teach interrogation now to kind of regulators and internal auditors and people like that.
And so the agents often who I don't know really well who are writing along with me are like, you're really smooth at getting that. But it's all about building rapport and trying to see the world through their eyes. Empathy is the thing, right? And so you can fake that. She's real. Sympathy needs to be faked. Empathy does not. Empathy is my ability to see the world through your eyes.
Sympathy is me feeling sorry for you. I don't feel sorry for her, but can I see the world through her eyes? Can I imagine the rationalizations that she tells herself that allows her to look in the mirror every day, knowing that she's ripping off these people from her church? I can imagine that. I can imagine that. You can imagine that too.
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Chapter 3: What were the consequences of the Stevie Wonder blunder?
Relevant conduct. That's what I'm thinking. Relevant conduct. Yeah.
Yeah. That's, you know,
Harsh, but he's, you know, he was, you know, whatever, unrepentant, probably plenty repentant while he was being sentenced. But he waited until the day of jury.
Oh, the other thing he did that really pissed off the judge is he pleads guilty. And then like right before sentencing, he tries to withdraw his guilty plea. He's playing games. That was the perception of the judge. I remember that now because we had to like, we were gearing up for a potentially another trial if the judge granted that, but the judge did not allow him to withdraw his guilty plea.
Yeah. Okay. So, yeah. I'd say probably I would have said three years, five years seems excessive, but no big deal.
And I never got to see Stevie Wonder in concert. No. But then again, he never got to see me.
Oh, that's so wrong.
Offsetting penalties.
Okay.
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