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Why Buying a Lamborghini Could Be Smarter Than Saving Money w/ Pejman Ghadimi πŸ’Ž E122

Mon, 19 May 2025

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Most people think buying luxury items is a waste of money – but what if you could actually make money from them? In this episode Money Mondays, we reveal how to park your money in luxury cars, watches, and more to enjoy the lifestyle without losing cash.---Pejman Ghadimi is a self-made entrepreneur, investor, and author known for teaching unconventional wealth-building strategies through assets like luxury cars, watches, and real estate. He is the founder of Exotic Car Hacks and Watch Trading Academy, where he shows people how to turn high-end purchases into profitable investments instead of financial liabilities.---Like this episode? Watch more like it πŸ‘‡Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky: https://youtu.be/F3xUCSONZaEFocus on ONE Skill Or Stay Broke Forever | Adam Sosnick (SoSTalks) & Justin Colby: https://youtu.be/KsFz562SnHAHow We Went From a Beat-Up Van to 200+ Franchises w/ Nick Friedman & Vince Ricci: https://youtu.be/cOF0BpMujVsFrom $0 to $100M: How To Raise Capital w/ Hunter Thompson: https://youtu.be/MofIHhCS_Y4Watch ALL Full Episodes Here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs0D-M5aH-0IOUKtQPKts-VZfO55mfH6k---The Money Mondays is a business podcast here to teach you how to make money, invest money, and donate money by showcasing some of the world's most successful people and how they do the same. Hosted by serial entrepreneur Dan Fleyshman, the youngest founder of a publicly traded company in history, this money podcast gives you an exclusive behind the scenes look at how the wealthiest celebrities, entrepreneurs, athletes and influencers make, invest and donate money.If you want to learn more business and investing while you work to improve your financial life, you're in the right place! Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@themoneymondays?sub_confirmation=1Dan Fleyshman,The Money MondaysLearn more here: https://themoneymondays.comWatch all the podcast episodes: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs0D-M5aH-0IOUKtQPKts-VZfO55mfH6kLet’s Connect...Website: https://themoneymondays.comPodcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-money-mondays/id1663564091Twitter: https://twitter.com/themoneymondaysLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-money-mondays/about/TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@themoneymondaysFB: https://www.facebook.com/The-Money-Mondays-110233585203220/

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Chapter 1: Why are luxury items seen as liabilities?

0.129 - 17.561 Pejman Ghadimi

the world has been conditioned to think they can basically buy things and they have to make a ton of money to keep wasting their money buying luxuries but i teach people in and out how to actually park their money in luxuries and live much better lifestyles than they ever thought possible without actually wasting or spending their money but rather parking it

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23.925 - 51.175 Guest

ladies and gentlemen welcome to a very special edition of the money mondays podcast as you guys know 99 of the time i record inside of an rv motorhome traveling around the country but we actually have someone in the car industry so i should have my motorhome here but i just found out that he happened to be in town he was here from florida so we decided let's knock out a podcast so we're here in this amazing studio in santa monica brentwood area now as you guys know we cover three core topics how to make money and invest money how to give away to charity

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51.875 - 68.66 Guest

On this podcast, typically our episodes are 32 to 40 minutes because the average workout is 45 minutes. The average commute to work is 45 minutes. So you'll be able to listen to this episode in under 40 minutes for your listening pleasure. Now, without further ado, I'm going to have our guests give us a quick two-minute bio so we can get straight to the money.

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69.673 - 87.197 Pejman Ghadimi

Well, I appreciate you having me on. And real short, I am the ultimate guy when it comes to alternative assets, cars, watches, art, handbags, and everything else that comes with investing or putting money or parking money, I should say, in those things. So the world has been conditioned to think they can basically...

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87.997 - 105.865 Pejman Ghadimi

buy things and they have to make a ton of money to keep wasting their money buying luxuries. But I teach people in and out how to actually park their money in luxuries and live much better lifestyles than they ever thought possible without actually wasting or spending their money, but rather parking it. And so I have a huge background in finance.

106.485 - 116.91 Pejman Ghadimi

I am the founder of Exotic Car Hacks, Watch Trading Academy, and also have authored a ton of books on human awareness and how basically humans make decisions around their day-to-day lives.

117.557 - 119.398 Guest

Okay, so let's break that down. There's a lot of fun.

119.478 - 120.519 Pejman Ghadimi

There's a lot of stuff in there.

121.119 - 122.46 Guest

Exotic Car Hacks. What is that?

Chapter 2: What is Exotic Car Hacks?

122.621 - 139.192 Pejman Ghadimi

Exotic Car Hacks is a platform that since 2009 or so has been teaching people how to buy, trade and sell exotic cars as a means of actually parking their money into alternative assets instead of actually looking at cars as liability. It's helping them look at them as an asset.

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140.034 - 149.758 Guest

So a lot of times when people, we are preconditioned to think, oh, you buy a Lamborghini or you buy a Bentley, you buy a Mercedes. The second you drive off the lot, it's down 10%, 20% or some number that people just make up.

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149.958 - 166.424 Pejman Ghadimi

Which usually leads people to not buying those things because they're usually looked at as a bad investment or as a bad purchase because it's like a kind of a piss your money away purchase, right? But the way we've reframed this, and we've been really good at helping people understand that

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166.884 - 176.009 Pejman Ghadimi

Not every car is created equal and the right Lamborghinis, the right Ferraris will depreciate during their first year, but then ultimately hold flat at what we call a bottom cash value.

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176.029 - 190.076 Pejman Ghadimi

And so we invented the bottom cash value formula, which is a formula that enables us to understand every single car in the market and which cars will actually have a stop in that depreciation based on time and will only depreciate based on miles and conditions, such as if you crash your car or not.

190.636 - 203.246 Pejman Ghadimi

And by identifying these cars, you're able to hop car to car, meaning one year, two years, three years, however you want. But you're able to ultimately buy a car or finance it however way you want. But once you put that money in the car, it doesn't actually depreciate.

203.266 - 215.658 Pejman Ghadimi

So even if you're making your payment, even if you're, let's say you can't afford to buy a quarter million dollar car cash, you're still paying your monthly payment like a normal payment. But at the end, when you go sell your car, you actually recoup that payment because it's not equity in the car.

216.118 - 220.923 Pejman Ghadimi

And you ultimately, the car itself hasn't actually depreciated from the purchase price that you actually bought it for.

221.969 - 233.394 Guest

So there's some guys we know on social media like Dan MI, Andy Frisella, et cetera, that might have 40, 50, 60 cars sitting in a garage that are not being driven. How are those on the appreciation-depreciation scale?

Chapter 3: How can luxury cars be good investments?

255.295 - 268.863 Pejman Ghadimi

That's not what I teach every day because that's a very small group of people. But you're buying cars so exclusive and specs configurations are hard to get models that they're immediately significantly in higher demand on the used market because most people can't get them on the market.

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269.343 - 284.629 Pejman Ghadimi

So that's a difference here because that's like, hey, I have all the money in the world and I'm just buying a ton of shit. But when you're normal and starting up, you usually look at your most people will will comfortably buy a Range Rover. They'll be like, oh, that's my luxury kind of like I bought myself a Range Rover, a really nice Volvo.

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285.269 - 303.741 Pejman Ghadimi

For the price of that Range Rover, they could probably have a Lamborghini Urus or a Rolls Royce Cullinan. Those are cars that they don't think they can afford usually when they buy the Range Rover because they think in conventional mindset of if the payment is $1,000 a month on the Range Rover, it's $3,000 a month on the Cullinan. So therefore, I can't afford a Cullinan.

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303.761 - 323.314 Pejman Ghadimi

That's like $2,000 of extra money. But it's not true, though, because even though you're spending $3,000 a month maybe for the Cullinan, if you're buying the right Cullinan, that money is still parked in the car. But that Range Rover will keep depreciating over your lease back down to basically a wash of 40, 50K after like three years of ownership.

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323.895 - 337.333 Pejman Ghadimi

But that same Cullinan, which you could drive the exact same car, might cost you 15 grand over three years. But it's a Cullinan. So you got to drive a Rolls-Royce for less money than a Range Rover. Now, I wouldn't say you got to drive a Rolls-Royce for less money than like on the Civic.

337.473 - 337.673 Dan Fleyshman

Sure.

337.994 - 343.077 Pejman Ghadimi

But if you're going to buy a Range Rover anyways, why not get a Lamborghini RS or Cullinan and save the money?

343.617 - 357.827 Guest

You said something in there that said someone, they couldn't buy it on the new car market. So is that because something only has like 50 or 100 units, like people can't go buy it? Or because Ferrari sometimes has a list of, you have to previously have a Ferrari to buy this Ferrari?

358.027 - 377.311 Pejman Ghadimi

So both. Like... The cars you mentioned earlier, those two people's specific collections, are filled with cars that are very exclusive in nature. So they're not just a Bugatti. They're like a carbon fiber Bugatti, which is like a full exposed carbon final edition like Super Sport is incredibly hard to get. And it should have been ordered like three years ago. It finally came in.

Chapter 4: What makes certain cars appreciate in value?

453.752 - 470.696 Pejman Ghadimi

On the other side, if you want to make money, we teach people basically to take watches and turn them into a profit center. So watches have huge amounts of margins. So if you're in any type of investing ideology or in real estate, the reason people like real estate is because the asset class is usually safe.

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471.296 - 490.103 Pejman Ghadimi

You buy it, and over time, even if you make a bad mistake, it'll generally pay off, even if it's a 10-year return. Sure. But there's no liquidity to it. And it's very hard to constantly turn real estate unless, of course, you're in the business and you have capital and you're constantly like transacting on it. But you still have paperwork. You have to set up your LLCs.

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490.123 - 507.774 Pejman Ghadimi

You have all your 1031 exchanges. So it's very different from the watch game, which is completely unregulated. It doesn't have any type of like paperwork associated with it. And it's the easiest thing to trade for margins that are anywhere from 20 to 30%. Some cases as high as 40% and can start as low as $2,000 a watch.

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508.394 - 529.071 Pejman Ghadimi

So we're also trained to think watches because they're exclusive and sold in boutiques are generally expensive. When you walk in a mall, you'll see a Hublot boutique and you'll see like a $20,000 watch. And you'll be like, wow, I got to work my way up to owning a $20,000 watch. What people don't know is that that Hublot is actually a $4,000 watch. Whoa. Exactly. $4,000 sold then for $20,000.

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529.531 - 536.679 Pejman Ghadimi

So even if there's a discount, it sells you for like 18, you think you've got a great deal of 16. But the real worth of that watch on the secondary market is four to five grand.

537.22 - 548.091 Pejman Ghadimi

So could you technically find that watch on the secondary market for four to five grand if I told you where to get it, how to negotiate it, and then turn around and sell it for seven to eight grand to another guy that thought paying 20 grand was the easy way out?

548.131 - 548.492 Dan Fleyshman

For sure.

548.812 - 564.942 Pejman Ghadimi

It's basic arbitrage, right? But knowing which watches to buy, how to actually negotiate them down to the right price, and knowing which ones actually stay strong in value. So even if you can't sell it for six months, the value doesn't really go anywhere, is the key to learning how to make money with watches. And it's something that we have students doing this part-time.

564.962 - 576.59 Pejman Ghadimi

They're making $10,000 a month. We have other students doing this full-time, making $3 million a year doing it. Amazing. Yeah, and they don't have any watch knowledge, but they just understand which models to go after and what to do with it.

Chapter 5: How to profit from luxury watches?

618.137 - 623.499 Guest

But I was able to give like 20, 30, 40, 50% off and still be making 20, 30, 40, 50%. Exactly.

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623.519 - 633.422 Pejman Ghadimi

And it's the same thing with watches. And a lot of people don't realize that. Like even major manufacturer of watches, their costs on the inventory they're selling to the boutiques, like Cartier watches are 30 cents on the dollar.

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634.822 - 652.061 Pejman Ghadimi

But people, how many people go in and buy Cartier watches for their wives, for their girlfriends, whatever. And they think they're like, oh my God, like I got a great deal. I got 10% off on a new watch. That watch that was 10 grand of Cartier, 30 grand of Cartier only cost 30 cents for that manufacturer. Then they sold it to the store to 50 cents and the store made 50 cents in margin.

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652.141 - 667.77 Pejman Ghadimi

So that's what they make their money plus tax, whatever. But when they're on the used market, they cost less than 50 cents on dollar. So, and they're brand new. So there's just like leftover and there's not sold at the store. And a lot of people think, well, what if I buy it from a third party and it's not real or it's fake, but it doesn't work that way anymore.

667.79 - 682.118 Pejman Ghadimi

There's so many authorized and really reliable jewelers in the world that are selling secondary watches and they're real and they're not like issue. They have the same paperwork, the same warranties, the same everything. And they're just sold at 50 cents on dollar.

682.952 - 694.035 Guest

So if someone out there is listening and wants to learn from you, are they the someone that's like, that wants to actually own a jewelry store, own a website to sell jewelry, or they're just someone that's in the mix?

694.255 - 713.859 Pejman Ghadimi

Zero. So the reason we started this was because we realized people want luxuries. Sure. Like this, it wasn't about teaching people how to start jewelry stores. Like I could care less for that. That's a real business. It requires all the logistics, the licensing, this, none of that. Yeah. None of that stuff. The point was, if you're a normal human being, you'll technically aspire to make money.

714.42 - 726.123 Pejman Ghadimi

They're listening to Money Mondays. They want to make money. The point is, if you learn to make money, typically you want to make money because you want to improve your lifestyle. First, you improve your house. Then you improve your car. Then you tend to indulge in travel, luxuries, etc.

Chapter 6: What is the difference between renting and owning exotic cars?

963.027 - 989.538 Pejman Ghadimi

okay like what i'm saying is let's assume someone's like it's amazing exactly it's an amazing i mean 800 grand is a lot of money you know even 300 grand is a lot of money let's not even use big numbers 10 grand a month is a lot of money for sure it depends on what your aspirations are but if you have a normal job and you're working at a coffee shop or something and you have 1500 saved you can literally take that 1500 buy your first watch let it grow into its own thing similar to a trade you would do in the stock market except the difference is the stock can disappear to nothing

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990.198 - 1007.976 Pejman Ghadimi

and it can just keep going down and you don't even understand what's happening. But a watch is on your wrist. So it's opening doors as you meet people, you're getting into new peer groups, and you're making the same money you would in the market. And it's easier to trade in and out of without having to wait for bumps and dumps and anything else.

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1008.882 - 1016.953 Guest

What are your thoughts on the exotic car rental market? And like basically high end Turo, like have you ever thought about the like terrible Lamborghinis and Rolls Royces where people renting them out?

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1016.973 - 1034.75 Pejman Ghadimi

Terrible. So this is the big misconception in the world of cars. People believe that the revenue associated with cars has to be when you share them similar to Airbnb. And Turo makes that very easy. You can rent stuff. If you want to make money renting cars, buy Corvettes, put them on Turo. It's cheap. It's easy.

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1034.89 - 1053.719 Pejman Ghadimi

Buy a couple of ones, even if they've been salvaged, hit before, repaired, and put those on Turo. The amount of money that will come to rent that on a continuous basis and just keep giving you money, even if there's an accident there and there, the net positive will be better over time. It's a risky business because generally you have to have separate insurance.

1053.759 - 1073.085 Pejman Ghadimi

You try to put it on people's insurance or tourist insurance, but there are very high limitations there when it comes to exotic cars, not so high on cheaper Corvettes and Audis and things like that. So if I was going to try to make money in the rental business on tour, I would never rent out an exotic. You have to understand that when an exotic gets hit in an accident, it's worth 20 to 25% less.

1073.105 - 1073.285 Pejman Ghadimi

So, right.

1075.086 - 1098.189 Pejman Ghadimi

the moment you throw your car and you're like oh yeah i made like five grand i didn't do anything because someone's work is done you don't think it's done and the money's gone so you want to avoid that at all costs and and one of the big misconceptions again when you're in a position to own something like that like generally own it you don't want to lend it to people like yeah i've never seen someone that's like i i've made enough money to buy mineral source and in order to pay for the payment i want to lend it to a complete stranger for two days

1099.771 - 1115.903 Pejman Ghadimi

No, nobody wants to do that. Like nobody will do that. Like generally people that do that is they don't understand business and they only see business in a linear manner. That's like, well, if I buy the car and I have a 5K payment and then I rent it out for five days out of the 30 days, well, that's 5K, like my payment's paid off.

Chapter 7: How to start investing in luxury items?

1136.301 - 1157.059 Pejman Ghadimi

You can hold, like I have a very extensive personal watch collection and a very extensive personal car collection, very similar to Andy Frazella's collection. Like I have a lot of cars from Bugattis to like Porsches, rare, old, new. And one of the things that's really key is once you get through this process of buying and driving your cars, you obviously get richer in life.

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1157.199 - 1171.65 Pejman Ghadimi

Like you obviously make more money, you get 10 years older, you have more adult money, right? Then when you're in your 20s and your 30s, you have more serious money. You might build a business, things might change, or you might be in a position where, hey, for 10 years, you've done this strategy we talked about and you didn't actually waste money.

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1172.19 - 1186.567 Pejman Ghadimi

So even though you're making more money, you know, it keeps accumulating. And at some point it makes sense to switch from this idea of, hey, I'm going to drive a new car every two, three years and get in and out to I'd like to own two to three nice cars like a Porsche, a Ferrari and maybe like a Range Rover.

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1187.288 - 1211.188 Pejman Ghadimi

And you can start buying cars that historically go up in value every single year for the next 30 years. They'll never go down. And they won't always go up every single year like 2% or anything. But over a 10-year period, historically, they've never not gone up at least 10%, 15%. And there are bumps when they might go up 30%, 40% if it's a very rare car, depending on the type of car you buy.

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1211.208 - 1229.925 Pejman Ghadimi

And they don't have to be expensive. In the last, like, maybe two, three years, we've seen cars that were 100K go up to 250, 300 because they're becoming collectible and they're older and there's less of them on the market. Or suddenly a celebrity ends up buying a more vintage Ferrari. A lot of people are like, oh, that is a collectible car we never looked at. And there's only 10 left.

1230.265 - 1232.748 Pejman Ghadimi

They quickly get off the market. Now they come back at double the price.

1233.991 - 1245.039 Guest

So there's a lot of memes and news articles this last few months in particular about Birkin bags. Now all these girls love to post about these news articles saying that Birkin bags are actually beating the S&P 500 as an investment.

1245.08 - 1248.762 Pejman Ghadimi

And the same articles were there about watches in 2020, 2021 and 2022. So that's a marketing strategy, but yeah.

1251.67 - 1252.51 Guest

Talk us through that.

Chapter 8: What are the misconceptions about luxury spending?

1345.42 - 1361.691 Pejman Ghadimi

That's what I mean by used. And you can still make those bags literally like turn into a profit center by wearing them for free for... Three four or five years and maybe making five six grand at the time of sale And we teach that in one of our courses to called secure the handbag secure the handbag.

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1361.991 - 1377.944 Pejman Ghadimi

That's great Yeah, we have courses on the cars watches Art and handbags as well as real estate So we we basically teach people how to take any of the expenses that their lives required them to have In the luxury segment and turn them into a money-making opportunity instead.

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1378.205 - 1379.766 Guest

What are your thoughts about wine bottles? I

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1380.45 - 1400.541 Pejman Ghadimi

So that gets a little bit trickier. So art and wine are a very acquired taste, and it's a very specific type of segment that's very hard to transact in. Actually, you're a case study in one of my courses, too, for the card market. You know, because you do the all the cards. Yeah, exactly. So cards.

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1401.001 - 1414.403 Pejman Ghadimi

I was actually talking about this in one of the in one of our webinars is that a lot of people ask me, well, what about cards? What about sneakers? What about these other things? Right. They're all collectibles and technically they could be sold. So it goes back to the wine thing. So you'll kind of loop into this.

1414.463 - 1427.348 Pejman Ghadimi

So the reason sneakers really don't fit into the model we talk about is because sneakers have no utility because once the utilities used, meaning once you put them on, The value is gone, right? So, right. So they're gone. Like you buy those like expensive sneakers.

1427.368 - 1428.669 Guest

I'm not buying these shoes guys. Yeah.

1428.689 - 1447.744 Pejman Ghadimi

Right. Like, so you're buying them, right? Like, and you, you understand they're worth a lot of money, but once you use them, that worth basically disappears. So it's almost like you can't, you, you can buy something. It's arbitrage. You buy cheap, you look, it might go up, you buy it. So. It's different because we talk about the utility of things is just as important as the investment.

1447.804 - 1460.213 Pejman Ghadimi

So the difference between investing in the stock versus investing in a car is that you want a car. You're going to buy a car anyways. You want a watch on your wrist. You're not forced to. You're going to buy it anyways. So the utility is very, very important.

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