Justin
Appearances
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
I do. But first, because if I forget, she'll kill me. My best friend Gia turned me on to you guys.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
She's a day one armchair obsessed. Then during quarantine lockdown, I got into it and I fell in love, obviously, too. And then Monica, I started listening when you're doing your egg retrieval. My husband and I were going through the process as well to have our daughter, which we had her. She's here.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
Thank you. But it was so helpful just to hear your experience with the egg retrieval. Because not just women who are doing it, but families like ours who can't have a kid naturally, just to hear every detail of what you went through was really, really helpful.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
Then looking you up, I was like, she looks really familiar to me and I couldn't figure it out. And I lived in LA for 10 years.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
Soul cycle. I used to bartend at the Abbey for four years and I was like, did I maybe make her a drink at some point?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
But this story, this was 2003. I had just graduated from Mason Gross, which is the acting conservatory at Rutgers. So I was 23. I just moved to New York City. I was living in Astoria, Queens in this little closet that was a bedroom. And I was waiting tables at Hard Rock Cafe. Oh, yes. Great nachos. I got a job there. I thought it would be cool.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
And they were like, you need New York experience to work here. So I lied. And so it was a Saturday night, super crazy busy. A lot of tourists come through. So the tips kind of suck. You're working with a constant feeling of rage. And I get sat with a birthday party. So it's the mom, the dad, and about eight 10-year-old girls. Oh, wow.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
So I approach the table, and I'm like, let me get this drink order. And via the drink order, I learn a few things. First is that this is a family of privilege.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
Nachos. They brought these kids into the city for a night, and they want to impress the parents of these other little girls. The birthday girls got, like, full beat, hair done. So I'm taking their drink orders. They're all like milkshake. They're talking down to me. The mom's like, these are the only Chardonnays you have. And I'm like, well, Campbell Jackson's are top.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
And she's like, I guess that'll do. The dad's like, beer, keep it coming. I'm like, he'll be on my side tonight. I come back and I'm like, let's get the appetizers. Now, in our pre-shift meeting, every shift, they sit us down and they're like, you must upsell. You must sell souvenir glasses. They threaten us to get good shifts and good sections.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
So I'm offering the jumbo combo, which is like the biggest appetizer. It's this big thing in the middle of spring rolls, all the things around it, you know, something like that. And the nachos, I'm pushing all the best shit. They're like, yeah. Order comes up. And I'm in the back getting it ready. And it's busy. The waiter's all running around. And I'm like, I only have two hands.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
We're supposed to put on a separate plate the guacamole and the salsa with the mac underneath. But I'm like, fuck it. I'm not doing that. I put the salsa on the side, guacamole on the other side, got the jumbo combo and the nachos. And I come out to the table, put down the jumbo combo. And then I'm going to put down the nachos. And I clear more space for them.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
And I'm like, I swear I put the salsa there with the guacamole. So I'm about to look at them and say, I'll be right back with your salsa. Meanwhile, I have like four other tables. And I look at them and they're all just wide-eyed, mouths dropped open. So I follow their eyeline to the birthday girl who's seated right beneath me. And the ramekin of salsa is on top of her head.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
So I drop the nachos. I grab the ramekin with one hand. I scoop the salsa with my other hand. And I bolt. Oh, wow. Okay.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
And so I ran up to my friend in the back and I said, I just dropped the sauce on the fucking birthday girl's head. So I grabbed the little beverage naps that I was supposed to put on the plate. I run out there. The mom is standing up picking onion chunks. And I come up, I'm scared to death, this mother. And I approach and I say, here's some napkins. And she slowly turns to me and says,
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
Could you bring a clean, wet towel?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
In her defense, that probably was what was needed.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
They're not going to do anything. I'm 23. I'm panicked. I run to the back. I see my manager. I'm like, I dropped the salsa on the girl's head. Can you get a clean, wet towel? He gets it. I ring in the dinner. The rest of the meal goes off without a hitch. The birthday girl has stopped crying. They're laughing. Beautiful sight. The mom's drunk.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
The dad's drunk, looking at the rock and roll memorabilia. Now I'm feeling the spirit. I'm like, this is a great party. I'm going to make this up to her. So at the Hard Rock, we're supposed to do a big birthday announcement. They want us to scream, get everyone's attention, make it rock and roll. I hated doing these things. I'd always pay the kid with the mohawk five bucks to do it for me.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
I went to Mason Gross School of the Arts.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
But this birthday I was doing it. So I went to the back and I told the dessert woman, I was like, make this good, extra whipped cream. And so this was in a large margarita glass, plastic.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
So it's a big brownie on the bottom, three scoops of vanilla ice cream, chocolate syrup, caramel, whipped cream, cherry on top. I put the candle on top. I take it. I march out there. All their eyes light up. I'm like, get up. She's like, no, no, no, no, no. I'm like, get out of your seat. I pull her up myself.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
I pull her chair up. I'm like, get up on your chair. She's like, oh, my God, no. I'm like, get up on the chair. She gets up on the chair. Your tone changes. Get the fuck on the chair, birthday girl. This is what they made us do. So I light the candle. I hand her the sundae. And I turn around. I face the restaurant. And I yell, attention, Hard Rock Cafe.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
They want us to do like, how's everyone doing tonight?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
slowly turn around and she's on her back. The chair is tipped backwards. The sundaes on her chest, her face, it looks like it exploded everywhere. She's screaming, crying. All the girls are jumping up. The mother's looking at me like, you're fucking dead.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
I look at the dad and he's trying so hard not to laugh.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
I go in the back, I find my manager and I say, can you please bring a clean wet towel? So I go out there trying to avoid eye contact, hoping they're cleaned up and someone's taking care of the check. And I feel a tap, tap, tap. And I turn around, it's the dad. And he slips me 220s. And he gives me a little nod. And so I said, well, I ruined her birthday, but I guess I made his night.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
And it's not like I was doing these things on purpose, right?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
What I do remember is that parties of six or more, they would include the tip. And that one, my manager was like, we're not including the tip.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
He probably comps the jumbo combo.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
This is one of those huge blankets. Do you remember those ads on Instagram a couple years ago?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Children's Party
Me neither. Like, how big are we talking?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
Honestly, not really. I mean, guys do crazy things all the time so they can spend time with girls. Like, it's not that crazy. Wow.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
Listen, I am not a serial tire slasher, all right? Oh.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
I did this one other time, and that was only when we were six months together. So it's not like I've done this a million times.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
Oh, I mean, I'm sorry. Like, it was my tire.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
You guys are acting like I committed murder or something. I mean, I literally flashed my own tire. Get over it, guys.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
It was a screwdriver.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
You're missing out. Listen, I'm pretty crafty. I'm romantic. I got all of it.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
I mean, she stayed around a couple more months after I flashed my tie the last time. That's sweet.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
I mean, you're probably 50% right.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
It didn't really work out that way.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
Her name is Tracy. Tracy.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
We actually met on Hinge and we had been chatting for a while. And then we decided to go out, play mini golf, something that we both were into. And, you know, it's kind of interactive. It's easy.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
I guess when I brought up the idea, she was into it. I was into it.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
Perfect. So we had a good time, honestly. We played for a while. At one point, I decided to play a joke on her. So when she turned around to putt, I hid behind one of those big mountains that they have. And I was back there for a bit and she was calling my name.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
I heard her say, did I seriously just get ditched again on a date?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
So what'd you do? I felt really bad, but I was still having fun, so I just kind of came out and surprised her. She definitely was a bit put off at first, I think. Yeah. Oh, no. But she started laughing. Regardless, I think it was a funny moment.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
It was a good attempt. Yeah, like it wasn't really like that thought out. It kind of was in the moment type of thing.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
Yeah, after she stopped crying, she laughed about it. What?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
So after that, we ended up going back to her apartment. And we hung out. We had some drinks. And towards the end, she was a bit tired. She had a long day. So we just kind of wrapped things up, and we planned to see each other again. So I went outside. I get to my car, and I realized someone slashed my tire.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
No, not that I know of. Oh, so this was random? I guess so. I didn't know who it was.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
First off, she doesn't really live in the greatest neighborhood. So at that point it was kind of like, I need to kind of get out of here. And I didn't want to wait on the sidewalk for AAA or whatever. So I went back there. I mean, she was shocked that it happened, but like she invited me back in.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
But I stayed on the couch. I didn't like stand and get better or anything. Okay.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
Yeah, actually. So the next morning, AAA came while we were waiting for them to change my tire or whatnot. We had orange juice, split a bagel. It was nice, actually.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
I mean, guys, I even got a quick kiss before I left. Oh, you did? I definitely think it ended on a high.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
I mean, at least.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
Okay, we weren't going full throttle, but I got a kiss.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
I mean, I can't really think of it. I liked her. I thought it was a great date. Unless it was like the mini golf situation, I don't know.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
Yeah, I'm here.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
Justin, go ahead. I didn't see any cameras out there, so honestly, that's on me, I guess.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
Listen, it was probably one of the best dates I've had in a really long time, and that's why I did it. I wanted to spend more time together.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
Well, I mean, if it's any consolation, it wasn't cheap. It still cost me $250. I had to replace my damn tire. Oh, wow.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: After Date Double Trouble
I just did it. I don't know. I thought it would make a great story down the line, too. Family reunions or a wedding, whatever.
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Something Was Wrong
S22 E10: Indiana Delvey
Nope, no new gossip. Just that whole Tesla lawsuit. Everyone kind of went crazy over that.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E10: Indiana Delvey
Yeah, the Tesla, Megan. I think everyone was just really baffled by the text messages. We could see all of it, the entire lawsuit.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E10: Indiana Delvey
128 pages, Megan, and we read it all. Every single word.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E10: Indiana Delvey
That 128-page document was a pretty interesting read with all the text messages.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E10: Indiana Delvey
It cost a dollar, but we did get access and we posted it in the group and let everyone read it. It was totally worth a dollar. I think that was probably the most conniving and manipulative I had seen you before. I was actually really shocked by that. And I think a lot of us were. It was truly almost like diving into your brain.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E10: Indiana Delvey
And seeing the manipulation that's possible from, from you, it was shocking. You know, I've spent a good amount of time talking to Steven's wife and they are really kind people, like very genuine, very kind. Um, and I was actually happy to see this lawsuit come about. because we were worried at the time that maybe nothing would come of it. I think there should have been a lot more.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E10: Indiana Delvey
So I would, if I was you, I would consider myself lucky that that's all you're getting is a lawsuit because clearly you have no wages to garnish. Um, I wouldn't be surprised if all your bank accounts are frozen at some point.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E10: Indiana Delvey
Oh no, Megan. I think they were trying for criminal charges and they realized that they may not have the burden of proof for criminal charges or I can't, I honestly can't speak to that. I don't know what happened, but I think that they are trying to find compensation in some way because they were truly wrong.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E10: Indiana Delvey
I hear you too, buddy. And I'm just saying, I think it's really, it's kind of a fucked up situation.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E10: Indiana Delvey
I just told you what I would do. I would admit to my wrongs.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E10: Indiana Delvey
No, what you can offer them is an admission of guilt on your part. I would give them an admission of guilt and say, yes, I did this and I owe this money. Now, will they ever see it? I don't know. It's like jump in line. Get in line of all the people that I owe.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E10: Indiana Delvey
When you get out of there, you need a fucking job. A J-O-B, baby girl. You need to go earn some money.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E10: Indiana Delvey
Megan, it's... I don't believe that you will pay anyone back, nor will it be in order. I think that if you get out eventually, maybe years from now, so I don't think you're going to get a choice. I don't think anyone's going to say, Megan, pick who you pay back first. Okay, that makes sense.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E10: Indiana Delvey
There's going to be a long line of people with their hands out waiting for money from you for the rest of your life. So when you get out of jail and you finally get a normal job, it could be 20 years down the road and you're suddenly paying for the mistakes that you made in your 20s. Like this is going to be with you for the rest of your life. You didn't commit small crimes.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E10: Indiana Delvey
You committed large crimes. A $60,000 lawsuit, that's, Megan, that's like a third of a home. And that's just one. I mean, I think we added up how much you owed in total, and we're coming up close to like $200,000.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E10: Indiana Delvey
They do. I have spoke to miss Mason a few times. I think Alex has spoke to Steven. Uh, we've definitely been in contact and they do know that you're in jail.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E10: Indiana Delvey
Oh, I don't know if they'll speak with you directly. I would highly doubt that.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E10: Indiana Delvey
No, I'm laughing because you said no, you don't have any money, which I knew the whole time.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E10: Indiana Delvey
What do they call that, a Freudian slip? Because apparently you have 15 grand in a bank account. So, I mean, I don't know.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E10: Indiana Delvey
Don't get shitty with me because I call you out on your lies. It's nothing new.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E10: Indiana Delvey
I mean, just that you're going to have to go to prison for a little while.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E10: Indiana Delvey
That's weird because you said 365 days was suspended. Like you got a two-year sentence. 365 was suspended. So what, you're doing six months in jail and six months work release or something?
Something Was Wrong
S22 E10: Indiana Delvey
Is that the general reaction? I mean, yeah, pretty much. I think everybody's going to be pretty pissed that you're getting such a light slap on the wrist. I mean, I know that you still have the Tesla thing to deal with, and you've got some other stuff coming your way, but it just seems like the justice system kind of let us down here. I would have liked to have got a lot more time.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E10: Indiana Delvey
Well, I don't know. I'm not going to say congratulations because I don't agree with it all, but at the same time, what can I do?
Something Was Wrong
S22 E10: Indiana Delvey
I don't think everyone's pissed. I think everyone just thinks that you deserve longer. All right. Well, I will talk to you later. Bye.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E9: How Dare You
I will admit, we heard a few things about the way she was acting inside of jail and curiosity did get the best of me. So I did communicate with her as Justin. A few times I talked to her and she was relatively pleasant, but very quickly she became desperate for someone to come bail her out. And she got very belligerent with her messages.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E9: How Dare You
Megan often would ask me to call her mom when she was in jail, but I never spoke to her mom. From what I know of hers, I think Gail, if you read the letters that she wrote to the jail on Megan's behalf, I would say semi-literate. It wasn't until Megan went back to jail
Something Was Wrong
S22 E9: How Dare You
and had her bail revoked that gail found out the extent of megan's crimes and the extent of who megan was through the first nine months of this whole saga gail didn't know why megan was under so much scrutiny and why megan was having to go into hiding
Something Was Wrong
S22 E9: How Dare You
And I think it was truly very both confusing and devastating for Gayle to go through that because I don't think she could fully grasp what Megan was and what Megan had done.
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S22 E9: How Dare You
She messaged all of us, and by all of us I mean like at least me, Alex, Alyssa, at the same time through the app, my daughter just died. I have followed Megan Stoner for seven, eight years at this point, and I've never heard any mention that she has a child. And she keeps up this story for a few days that she had a daughter who she had had 10 years ago.
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S22 E9: How Dare You
So given Megan's age, that would be like at the age of 15. And she had to give her up for adoption. And there was a car accident and the adopted mother and the daughter died. and that she found out about this in jail because she was trying to come back into her daughter's life over the past couple months.
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S22 E9: How Dare You
She had been in contact with the family and the dad had gotten a hold of her and let her know of this tragedy that happened. I will admit, it was the one time Megan sort of got me where I was just like, is this the thing that happened to her that explains it all? Did she have this child she had to give up? And so I approached it from the position of it is true.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E9: How Dare You
And then Alex and Alyssa sort of approached her from the position of like, Megan, you're a compulsive liar. We don't believe you. But I sat on the phone with her and questioned her here and there about this doesn't really make sense. And she doubles down. She was able to come back into her daughter's life, has this whole story. And I'm like, oh, my God, this is wild.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E9: How Dare You
But I sort of figured out what she was trying to do because she very quickly was making me feel guilty for my role in putting her in jail, saying, you've got to bail me out so I can go to the funeral. That was just a whole ploy to get out of jail.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E9: How Dare You
And she probably saw on a pamphlet or something in the jail, like you can't get out for funerals and it has to be a kid, a spouse, a parent or a sibling or whatever. Her dad was already dead. She doesn't have a spouse, doesn't have kids. But she thought, okay, I have a kid that I gave up for adoption that died. That might get me out. And she just went...
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S22 E9: How Dare You
fully into it to the point that even I couldn't completely rule out that it was true because she's just so incredibly good at it she's not very smart and she's not as smart as she wants to think she is because there's always a big gaping hole in her plan but when you're in it when you're talking to her she's incredibly good at it did your daughter actually die yes I didn't know you had a kid.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E9: How Dare You
And I was trying to come into her life, and... Well, do you know what happened?
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S22 E9: How Dare You
You said you were going to try to go, is this the family member you were telling me about?
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S22 E9: How Dare You
I'm just going to be transparent here and say that the story about the daughter, I'm really having a hard time believing. You know, I've talked to a couple other people since I left work, and it seems like there's maybe some holes in the story. You haven't talked to anybody.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E9: How Dare You
I was going to say, you talked to Alyssa a little bit, and you messaged Alex as well, didn't you?
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S22 E9: How Dare You
And I just... I I'm just like in the interest of being transparent, you know, just about where my head is at right now. I mean, a mom and daughter dying in a car accident is a story you've told multiple times. You understand that there's a, there's a deficit here of, of trust because of, you know, the history.
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S22 E9: How Dare You
The way you're talking about it and the way that you're like using it almost like, I need to message me in the middle of the night and say, my daughter died. Thanks. You posted in on Twitter, you know, at the beginning part of this year that you and Jake were trying to start a family and that you weren't able to, and turns out that Jake's not even a real person.
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S22 E9: How Dare You
Well, you said my partner and I, and then you told me the name Jake Xavier or whatever. But anyway, you said that. And then, you know, you joined the Spice Girls Moms group because you wanted to be a mom, but you said you weren't. So I'm just, I'm very confused right now that you're bringing this out Cause there's a lot of conflicting stuff here.
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S22 E9: How Dare You
You're waiting on us to accuse you of murdering your child.
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S22 E9: How Dare You
Well, I have not heard that yet. Cause I mean, it's a lot, it's a lot to add to the story at this stage.
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S22 E9: How Dare You
Okay. And this is where, like, I'm just going to be honest about where my mind goes here. And just so I'm not putting up any fronts, you said you had to visit a dying relative in New Jersey so you could go and see Harry. And that turned out to not be the case. And now you're saying you have to attend the funeral and this just so happens to be out by Leo.
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S22 E9: How Dare You
Is it just going to be like doing a little private ceremony or is it going to be like... I don't know yet. I mean, do you know how much trouble you're going to be in if this turns out to not be true?
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S22 E9: How Dare You
I mean, I'm inclined to believe you because, I mean, it's a hell of a thing to lie about, but you've also told some pretty big lies in the past. Lies that you told for years and then recanted.
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S22 E9: How Dare You
You called him? How did you know that this accident had happened?
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S22 E9: How Dare You
He told you when you called him, like you just happened to call him on Sunday and all of this has happened?
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S22 E9: How Dare You
See, I didn't think that's how private adoptions worked. I didn't think you could do that.
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S22 E9: How Dare You
Well, I hate to say, I hope it's true because if it's true, it's a tragedy, but I surely hope this is not something you would lie about. Sitting where you're sitting.
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S22 E9: How Dare You
Even if you lied to the judge about this and he says, no, you're still lying to a judge. Do you understand that?
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S22 E9: How Dare You
But you've lied on court documents before. I don't know what to believe because on the one hand, I want to believe that no one would ever lie about things like this. On the other hand, I've seen you lie about other things. And this story is a lot to accept at face value when you've never mentioned this before.
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S22 E9: How Dare You
You lied and said you had a child that you gave up for adoption and that it died in a car wreck with its adoptive mom and none of that was true. Correct. Okay. What other lies have you told me? Um... Because I can think of several just since you and I started talking. And frankly, I don't really... Like, I don't even really...
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S22 E9: How Dare You
know where to begin because it's every time I talk to you, I then go back and talk to other people and I find out something you told me wasn't true.
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S22 E9: How Dare You
You've told me that your mom was having a heart attack and you had to get out. You told me that you had a kid that died and that I was going to take it.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E9: How Dare You
Well, I'm including it in the list. And you told me multiple times that you have all this money in an account that you can pay back. And then you tell me that you're about to sign a plea deal twice. You told me you had a deal in front of you that had been offered that you were going to sign, and I find out neither of those was true.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E9: How Dare You
Okay. Well, it'll show up on the my case when it does. I don't know what to believe anymore because, you know, I talk to you sometimes and you're completely pleasant to talk to and it sounds like you want to do better and I say I'm willing to help you on the road to getting better and then I get off the phone and I say, she said this, this, and this, and everybody says, yeah, none of that's true.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E9: How Dare You
I don't even know why I'm taking this call. I don't know what I'm doing anymore because the lies you tell are just so... I mean, you've burned all these bridges and you're facing all these consequences and you would still make up a lie that's that elaborate? That makes me think there's nothing you wouldn't lie about.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E9: How Dare You
You've lied so many times about things from... you know, what kind of job you had to, you sent that Amazon wishlist to everyone I know for a year. When you weren't a teacher, you ran this rental scam. You, you know, lied to get the Tesla. You lied about Brian Bosma. You lied to Harry. You've lied to you. I mean, you've lied to so many people about so many things, Megan.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E9: How Dare You
And then you want us to take your calls and talk to you and feel bad that we did what we did. And it's like nothing has changed. I'm being offered 12 years one day, and then I'm being offered three months the next. And then it comes out neither of those offers have been made in that amount of time. It's just baffling to me.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E9: How Dare You
The thing is, Tiffany, like, we're the only friends she has. Like, the only people that will talk to her are the people that put her in jail. And I said that to her one time. I was like, Megan, how does it feel right now that the only people you have a hope of helping you right now are the people who conspired to put you in jail? And she was like, please stop. Don't rub that in right now. Please.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E9: How Dare You
Amanda said to me after, she's like, you're kind of nice by not pointing that out every time. After the dead kid thing, we all cut her off entirely. She reached out a few times to try to make things right. I had several phone calls from Christmas time of last year of me telling her, like, please stop calling me. I literally answer the phone and I just go, fuck off.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E9: How Dare You
And she goes, you really just paid for a phone call from the jail to tell me that? And I said, yes, because I'm sick of you calling me. And she goes, I haven't called you in like a week. And I go, you called me yesterday, twice. And she goes, is that really all you picked up the phone to tell me? She didn't even have a response for it.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E9: How Dare You
Because I'm not doing anything to help you. Because you're a compulsive liar and a thief. I've made that as clear as I can, and you just call me over and over and over again. So I don't know what else to do. I've had enough conversations with you. I've had enough conversations where you make up bullshit about having dead kids that don't exist. I think we're done with that.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E9: How Dare You
But this is one of those things where you're just going to have to do better. Like the words mean nothing because you say that every time and then you tell me that you've got a kid that died and your mom's having a heart attack and everything else under the sun you can think of to get what you want. You're just going to have to do better and
Something Was Wrong
S22 E11: Double Down (Finale Part 1)
before you talk to her. And I'm not trying to tell you how to do your job. You have to know what you're doing. But I'm very well seasoned in dealing with that. She's going to approach you as, I've made some mistakes in my life. I'm trying to right my wrongs. It's been really hard to be under this amount of scrutiny. She's going to come off as the most pathetic person you've ever met.
Something Was Wrong
S22 E11: Double Down (Finale Part 1)
And you're going to come away feeling very gaslit and probably even questioning, is it the right thing to do? You cannot give her a platform to spin that needle. It has to be direct questions like, why did you take the money from Tom on this day? Because if you let her paint with a broad brush, she will if you let her, and she will make you feel bad for her. Even if you think you won't, you will.
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E.J. Antoni On Tariffs, Trade Wars, and the Economy | Ep. 09 - 03/27/25
That's the way to handle it. Awesome.
The Dan Bongino Show
E.J. Antoni On Tariffs, Trade Wars, and the Economy | Ep. 09 - 03/27/25
Oh, you got a pocket watch on.
The Viall Files
E906 - Victoria Fuller, Bachelor Finale, Southern Charm, Summer House, Ashton Hall, & Tiger Woods New Boo
That's true.
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E906 - Victoria Fuller, Bachelor Finale, Southern Charm, Summer House, Ashton Hall, & Tiger Woods New Boo
Trying to murder me.
The Viall Files
E906 - Victoria Fuller, Bachelor Finale, Southern Charm, Summer House, Ashton Hall, & Tiger Woods New Boo
Why?
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E906 - Victoria Fuller, Bachelor Finale, Southern Charm, Summer House, Ashton Hall, & Tiger Woods New Boo
You can't get better. You can't get better.
The Viall Files
E906 - Victoria Fuller, Bachelor Finale, Southern Charm, Summer House, Ashton Hall, & Tiger Woods New Boo
Oh, my God.
The Viall Files
E906 - Victoria Fuller, Bachelor Finale, Southern Charm, Summer House, Ashton Hall, & Tiger Woods New Boo
You know?
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Bubble gut. Bubble gut.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
I mean, yeah.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Imagine you're Juliana. You finally get your fantasy suite with Grant. And he's just like, oh, no. Excuse me.
The Viall Files
E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Imagine you're Juliana. It's like white chick scene. Oh, no.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
The headline was West Wilson of Summer House discusses his first taste of infamy.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
Ooh. Because it's like the two fan bases are pinned against each other.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
They did her dirty.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
They voted out Kate Chastain. And then they were like, oh, let's do another person.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
33.
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E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
Very funny. What do we think of Joey and Monica who got engaged episode two?
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
No, Taylor Swift is good.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
Reputation Era. Do you have a sex playlist?
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
I don't have a playlist anymore, but I'm a big advocate for music.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
Yeah, but I also think it's good to be in a movie at some point, like having sex during a soundtrack.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
But I feel like I'm in the movie.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
I think it's giving. She's like, I was sabotaged and I no longer can be here.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
In the teaser, you see Dina even turn on Carolina.
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E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
I'm like, okay. I don't think she's overreacting.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
I think Carolina put the nail in her coffin and she was like, there's no going forward from here.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
Somebody flashback last episode of us.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
But his conversation with Dina where she was like, you know, like, I'm here to also take care of us. Like, it's not just you.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
Right. Chemistry.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
Lindsay's whole rundown of like, so season one, I did this, now season two.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
Well, they're bringing in another guy too.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
They're casting, Roni. Yeah, they're casting. So maybe.
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E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
Seem fun. I know Lexi was dating Brooklyn Beckham.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
Yeah. I saw clips and people were saying people were saying she like downgraded by coming on Summer House.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
I think people love Lexi. She's pretty. She's like flirty. But I mean, it's only one episode of her. I don't think people are really talking about the other friend.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
I will say in the teaser, her making out or doing who knows what with Jesse Solomon is random.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
Because aren't they also like dancing in the teaser together? And then I could have seen a make out. I might have made that up in my head, but...
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
He was so real when he walked in. He's like, I'm afraid. I don't want to walk in there. And the producer's like, well, it's normal. Like, you can. And he's, like, avoiding at all costs.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
I love Wes, actually.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
Me too.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
He's trying this season, though.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
Even when he was like, you know, I had to really give her time for her friends and reinforce her doing what she wants to do. I was like, okay, this is what we needed.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
Yeah.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
Wow.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
Is it because of the body touching? Because that's valid. That's valid regardless of who you are. The what?
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
I want you to define body touching. Skin to skin contact. If someone's bundled up, I'm like, why am I in bed with you?
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
They're just not for me.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
She left the room when he was changing.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
He's also flirting with Molly now. Or maybe not flirting, but like the whole thing.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
That's the next season storyline is them together, right?
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
What I'm saying, they're like, true. He's done with Sienna. That's true. They are broken up in my head now.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
Isn't that what Patricia was like or Miss Pat was like Sienna goes after rich men.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
Yeah.
The Viall Files
E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day
Because Grant was like, you know, like I just want to dress. Like I feel like you're a little apprehensive with kissing me.
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
As of now?
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Hands down.
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Oh.
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
You think you have more money? It's like asking these questions. Yeah, it is kind of go-dang. But it's like even then where it's like you all got silent and had like a sigh that happened unanimously across the table. Just like, okay, that was just said. And then you have Garcelle somehow still kind of come back to defend Sutton.
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
And I'm like, just let these two women work it out if that's what you guys are doing. But defending somebody in this situation, fool's errand.
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
super malicious or like I just think that she says things and maybe doesn't think about how it's going to affect somebody or like the question of like the context she just says things so I'm like I understand that she can be offensive but even then she sat there across from Sutton and apologized being like I am so sorry I would love to understand why but you're not even going to take that apology and what did Sutton do not take the apology was that genuine though I don't think she was going to take the apology but like her apology wasn't genuine I loved what she was like okay let's try
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
I don't know.
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
I genuinely don't know.
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
They've been separated for a while, but the weird thing is that it's not so much even about the fact that Mauricio's seeing other people. It's like the scandal is that he called paparazzi on himself at an airport.
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Was Mauricio not hugging Kyle from crying like two episodes ago?
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
When you met everyone, was there anybody that you were surprised that you talked to in the pods, but you were surprised by like meeting them physically, like what their appearance was versus their voice? Oh, like the guys? Yeah. Yeah.
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
there's a season of Vanderpump Rules where Jax has a girlfriend and he invites her to pizza and then she thinks they're having a date. And he's like, I just, you know, you're going to college. I just don't see myself going with you. You're going to college? She's like going to grad school or something.
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
I found his YouTube channel, but it's completely wiped.
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
It does exist.
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Apparently, this man would leave his YouTube card for women after he slept with them.
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
He made a business card with YouTube on it, his face, and his app, so you can go follow him.
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
You said your husband is from Idaho. So how did you end up in Dubai?
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
She said Dylan, Derek, Danielle.
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
I appreciate you bringing awareness to that because I didn't know the half of that.
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
On Emirates. Ugh.
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Do you remember in New York housewives when Jussel's husband got a lot of shit because he was about his like points, but he takes the flight to Bahrain to like get a certain sandwich or whatever, but to like up his points, the actual flight is like a hotel. It's like, like,
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Nobody expected you to babysit that guy.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
And I agree with that.
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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
I agree with that. Her explanation of it was very much like, I just innocently was just teasing the next episode. I had no idea that you would take it that far, let alone threaten to show text messages.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
You knew.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
You knew. You were throwing shade.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
To be fair, I was like, sometimes while I was watching it, I was like, I don't know which point you're applauding because it would be like somebody makes a point. Somebody's already making a point in the beginning and people started clapping. And I was like, are you clapping for Carolina? Are you clapping for Sarah?
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
Oh, I didn't realize that either. No, I didn't either. No.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
I think we had so much.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
Well, like Netflix, you had like Too Hot to Handle, Perfect Match, like all these dating shows, Love Island, that it's like, when do we have time? And like, lo and behold, the blueprint of where all of these shows came from, the original Temptation Island.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
It was selfie style. And there was also a photo of them from a distance where they're all just like chatting and having a time, not just taking a photo. So it was very intentional.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
It's Love Island, but I think I'm, I love Peacock. It's one of my go-to platforms, but it's like, because it has all of my Bravo stuff.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
You know, like I'm not really going in there being like, hmm, what's the Peacock original?
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
So good.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
I think I was too young when it originally came out too. So I didn't understand the concept because I thought it was like married couples are like going to get tempted. I didn't realize like it was like the couple dynamic and even the way that they do things. It's just like, I don't know. It's so good. I can't explain it.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
You taking notes?
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
Wow. When I was in real estate, I had to get business cards.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
I mean, the one girl got like six. I was going to say, I think there's like 12 people per, like 12 tempters and tempterses. So it's like,
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
the chances someone is going to at least get one it's there yeah but it's just but if you get a pity bracelet that sucks but you wouldn't know like that's the thing i'm like but i'm like i don't know which one's worse if my person didn't get a single bracelet or if my person no you're like oh my god is he ugly like am i with an ugly guy like why does no one want to like but we're about to separate so i'm like oh so you've got six of them chasing i think if my i think if my if i went on temptation island and my partner only got like one or no bracelets i would be like good
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
Do you know how mad I would be if I ended up leaving with him and then watching it back and being like, you said fucking what? Literally.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
are very triggering and maybe the other few seconds would have softened that but they don't show that type of thing like it ends like they definitely are able to amplify to mark's point where he was kind of saying that the women try to hold off as long as possible in my head all i was thinking was like i bet until that first bonfire yeah because if i saw a video of like two seconds of a girl licking something off of connor's neck it's like all right so we're playing yeah okay let's fucking go okay yeah
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
Yeah.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
Dear? Yeah. I didn't know that that could be such like a triggering where she's like, no, no, no, that's my pet name.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
When somebody, like, when he calls somebody arrogant and then she's defending someone she doesn't even know she's at. You're arrogant. And it's like, okay. Shots fired. Tell me how you really feel.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
That was kind of weird, too, like listening to like the women and men every single like talk shit about the like temptresses. You don't you typically don't hear that like the cattiness.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
She got straight to the point.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
And it's like, I'm glad that you said that because I kind of had the same thought where I was just like Love Island when they do the Casa Amor. It's like the women come out and it's like, boop, boop, boop. And the guys come out and they're like, boop.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
Immediately.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
But I'm saying it was a $2,500 upfront payment.
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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
Well, I will say during the women's hall, I did feel a little vindicated.
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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
Because Carolina and Rose, they kind of touched on the whole topic. And it was kind of what I said was that Carolina wanted to hear everything, was asking her all about like, so what's going on with you and Grant? What's going on in your relationship? They were laughing, having a good time about it.
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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
That Rose was actually completely blindsided that Carolina took the stance that like she was, that Rose was like trying to rub something in her face when it was actually just like a
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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
I agree to some extent where I'm like, Carolina explaining like how she felt throughout. I was like, yes, I understand why your actions come off the way that they do. I don't think anybody intentionally goes into anything where they're being filmed and being like, I want to be the villain unless you're, I guess, Spencer Pratt. So I'm like, in that, I agree.
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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
But I was like, they definitely clarified that it was a friendly conversation going on between the two of them. And also that I'm like, The way that Carolina is making it out as if like Dina was like following her around. The whole point that they were also trying to emphasize to Carolina was you had a rose.
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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
You going and taking all of this extra time was the disrespect because you didn't need the time, but you still made every group date about yourself. So I'm like, I also understand Dina being like, it's kind of fucked up because you have the insurance that you need.
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E884 - RHOBH w/ Kelley O’Hara, Traitors w/ Boston Rob, Grant’s Lie?, Nat’s Babygirl Review, & Bedtime Rules
Well, another kind of rumor is that basically Mormon wives is going to replace the bachelor time slot.
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E884 - RHOBH w/ Kelley O’Hara, Traitors w/ Boston Rob, Grant’s Lie?, Nat’s Babygirl Review, & Bedtime Rules
Or maybe it just worked out like that.
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E884 - RHOBH w/ Kelley O’Hara, Traitors w/ Boston Rob, Grant’s Lie?, Nat’s Babygirl Review, & Bedtime Rules
100%.
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E884 - RHOBH w/ Kelley O’Hara, Traitors w/ Boston Rob, Grant’s Lie?, Nat’s Babygirl Review, & Bedtime Rules
Yeah, you're already in bed.
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E884 - RHOBH w/ Kelley O’Hara, Traitors w/ Boston Rob, Grant’s Lie?, Nat’s Babygirl Review, & Bedtime Rules
You don't want to get the mother of your child water? Yeah.
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E884 - RHOBH w/ Kelley O’Hara, Traitors w/ Boston Rob, Grant’s Lie?, Nat’s Babygirl Review, & Bedtime Rules
Oh, no.
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E884 - RHOBH w/ Kelley O’Hara, Traitors w/ Boston Rob, Grant’s Lie?, Nat’s Babygirl Review, & Bedtime Rules
um to this whole story oh no if it proceeds i don't let me finish okay trying to shut a woman down i i'm refusing to get the remote
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E884 - RHOBH w/ Kelley O’Hara, Traitors w/ Boston Rob, Grant’s Lie?, Nat’s Babygirl Review, & Bedtime Rules
I need a cushy little window, but I'm cool. Right in the dangerous place.
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E884 - RHOBH w/ Kelley O’Hara, Traitors w/ Boston Rob, Grant’s Lie?, Nat’s Babygirl Review, & Bedtime Rules
It's shotgun rules.
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E884 - RHOBH w/ Kelley O’Hara, Traitors w/ Boston Rob, Grant’s Lie?, Nat’s Babygirl Review, & Bedtime Rules
That is what I would do personally, but I do not know what, you know, like at a big, they have so many deliveries who knows like what their protocol is for like, you have to get this done. You have to get this done at what time speed, you know, they have like those really short windows.
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E884 - RHOBH w/ Kelley O’Hara, Traitors w/ Boston Rob, Grant’s Lie?, Nat’s Babygirl Review, & Bedtime Rules
Go to the next neighborhood. I would not personally do that. That's crazy.
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E884 - RHOBH w/ Kelley O’Hara, Traitors w/ Boston Rob, Grant’s Lie?, Nat’s Babygirl Review, & Bedtime Rules
It's our workers' fault, not us as a company.
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E884 - RHOBH w/ Kelley O’Hara, Traitors w/ Boston Rob, Grant’s Lie?, Nat’s Babygirl Review, & Bedtime Rules
It was definitely the employee's fault, but I could also see a bigger picture of being overworked, what they have to do, how much they have to deliver. I don't think it's an excuse for doing that.
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E884 - RHOBH w/ Kelley O’Hara, Traitors w/ Boston Rob, Grant’s Lie?, Nat’s Babygirl Review, & Bedtime Rules
That is very true. I just think it's also a thing at the same time. Both things are true. Maybe it was Gen Z. Maybe it was Gen Z. As a Gen Z, I would probably do that.
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E884 - RHOBH w/ Kelley O’Hara, Traitors w/ Boston Rob, Grant’s Lie?, Nat’s Babygirl Review, & Bedtime Rules
We're not cuspers.
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E884 - RHOBH w/ Kelley O’Hara, Traitors w/ Boston Rob, Grant’s Lie?, Nat’s Babygirl Review, & Bedtime Rules
Wait, so am I not Gen Z? I don't think you are. No, I think like you're cusp, if anything.
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E884 - RHOBH w/ Kelley O’Hara, Traitors w/ Boston Rob, Grant’s Lie?, Nat’s Babygirl Review, & Bedtime Rules
It was a surprise, but they're very excited about it, is the storyline.
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E884 - RHOBH w/ Kelley O’Hara, Traitors w/ Boston Rob, Grant’s Lie?, Nat’s Babygirl Review, & Bedtime Rules
Is it like the husband is like in the closet watching this happen situation? No. Okay. No. Okay.
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E884 - RHOBH w/ Kelley O’Hara, Traitors w/ Boston Rob, Grant’s Lie?, Nat’s Babygirl Review, & Bedtime Rules
Is it co-star or like teammate? Alex Morgan, her teammate was also there.
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E884 - RHOBH w/ Kelley O’Hara, Traitors w/ Boston Rob, Grant’s Lie?, Nat’s Babygirl Review, & Bedtime Rules
Girl.
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E884 - RHOBH w/ Kelley O’Hara, Traitors w/ Boston Rob, Grant’s Lie?, Nat’s Babygirl Review, & Bedtime Rules
Wow. Wow, I'm too short to kiss Nicole Kidman. Isn't she really tall? You can stand on a thing. I can get on my tiptoes. Apple box? Okay, she was married to Tom Cruise. I'm probably the same height as that man.
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E884 - RHOBH w/ Kelley O’Hara, Traitors w/ Boston Rob, Grant’s Lie?, Nat’s Babygirl Review, & Bedtime Rules
That could go.
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E884 - RHOBH w/ Kelley O’Hara, Traitors w/ Boston Rob, Grant’s Lie?, Nat’s Babygirl Review, & Bedtime Rules
2007.
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E884 - RHOBH w/ Kelley O’Hara, Traitors w/ Boston Rob, Grant’s Lie?, Nat’s Babygirl Review, & Bedtime Rules
Amazing. Thanks, Nick.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
Sutton. Sutton.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
Do you want to have to read and see?
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
Like my lips.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
You were more like, not my best. Yeah, literally.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
Oh, my God.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
Right. We forgive you. That was well said. That was good. Really thoughtful. Really, really nice. No notes. Yeah, yeah. Never.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
So humble.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
That's completely different.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
You're toxic.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
So he didn't fuck.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
For sure. Yeah.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
Thank you very much. You're welcome.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
Well, now that I have a wife who can make my bed, like, I was like, do your...
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
It's girlfriend though?
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
He definitely didn't say that.
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E895 - Grant Ellis, Ingrid Andress, White Lotus, RHOBH, Denise Richards Premiere, and Stolen Baby Names
What's going on here?
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E912 - Giacomo Gianniotti, Iliza Shlesinger, RHOBH Reunion, White Lotus, and Sydney Sweeney’s Breakup
I was like, okay.
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E912 - Giacomo Gianniotti, Iliza Shlesinger, RHOBH Reunion, White Lotus, and Sydney Sweeney’s Breakup
It could be.
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E912 - Giacomo Gianniotti, Iliza Shlesinger, RHOBH Reunion, White Lotus, and Sydney Sweeney’s Breakup
Yeah.
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E912 - Giacomo Gianniotti, Iliza Shlesinger, RHOBH Reunion, White Lotus, and Sydney Sweeney’s Breakup
Thank you.
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E912 - Giacomo Gianniotti, Iliza Shlesinger, RHOBH Reunion, White Lotus, and Sydney Sweeney’s Breakup
2002.
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E912 - Giacomo Gianniotti, Iliza Shlesinger, RHOBH Reunion, White Lotus, and Sydney Sweeney’s Breakup
I get way more... What?
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E912 - Giacomo Gianniotti, Iliza Shlesinger, RHOBH Reunion, White Lotus, and Sydney Sweeney’s Breakup
Yeah.
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E912 - Giacomo Gianniotti, Iliza Shlesinger, RHOBH Reunion, White Lotus, and Sydney Sweeney’s Breakup
All right. Well.
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E912 - Giacomo Gianniotti, Iliza Shlesinger, RHOBH Reunion, White Lotus, and Sydney Sweeney’s Breakup
11?
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E912 - Giacomo Gianniotti, Iliza Shlesinger, RHOBH Reunion, White Lotus, and Sydney Sweeney’s Breakup
Mm hmm.
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E912 - Giacomo Gianniotti, Iliza Shlesinger, RHOBH Reunion, White Lotus, and Sydney Sweeney’s Breakup
Yeah.
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E912 - Giacomo Gianniotti, Iliza Shlesinger, RHOBH Reunion, White Lotus, and Sydney Sweeney’s Breakup
That was the best.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
We're 15 and 14. Oh, I know they're right.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
You're doing better today, though.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
I'm surprised you're not just like wired, amped up.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Because I was, I mean, knowing that, I'm kind of surprised you were taking a nap.
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209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Well, I don't think really OP had anything to do with this. No. They may feel like they did, but really it was already in motion. The wife clearly brought it up in this type of environment to start a war or honestly to commence the next battle in the ongoing war.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
I guess. Cause she probably already went to her friends and was like, guess what? Dave asked me.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Did he just find out the sperm count thing after?
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209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
The only thing I can think of is he saw something, read something online or in some other form, heard a story from someone else and was like, oh, when you have low sperm count and your wife gets pregnant, it must mean she's cheating. There's got to be some rhetoric that all of a sudden is starting to infiltrate his mind to have him jump to that question.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
And I don't know what it's like being married for 16 years. I don't know how comfortable you get with someone, but I can't imagine you're comfortable enough That all of a sudden after two kids and now on the third, you're just going to be like, can we double check?
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209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Right. And I wonder why. And that's why I wonder if it's like something he saw recently or is there something else he's spiraling about? Because there's also the reality that there could be marriage struggles at 16 years. And there could be some other things he's maybe catching on to potentially. I'm not choosing sides. I'm just curious. Because it seems very weird to jump from 0 to 100.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Yeah, but honestly, I don't know.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
That's just spitting out of control.
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209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Yeah. Well, and the other thing that's interesting about it is how OP is feeling like they caused it, that they caused additional turmoil in this relationship. But then you could say that about, you know, a lot of people comment about our relationship. And some people at live shows and the comments and all these things have told us, because of the podcast, because of you guys, I left my partner.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
I realized we weren't right. That doesn't mean we're sitting here saying, causing all these breakups. We're just exposing things that people may not see themselves.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Which is what OP did in this sense. They said, like, here's the reality. She asked the question, I answered. There's no fault.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
I know. Does it somehow feel like he's not accusing as much when you ask it that way versus just saying, are you cheating? Is it not my kid? I mean, it's the same thing, but maybe somehow it's like, oh, let's do a paternity test. Doesn't sound so attacking, but it is.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Hey, listen, they can choose to do however they want. And as long as they find a partner that's on board, you guys go to your thing.
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209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
I know, that was so common. That was so common for a while. I feel like they, didn't you say they kind of tightened that up?
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209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Well, and how would you ever actually know, though? Because as long as there's a 0.1, 0.0001, there's still a number there. It's not zero. There's still a chance.
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209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Someone wins the lottery. You know, it happens even though the odds are extremely low. So you never can be conclusive. I mean... You'll never know. I mean, I guess, you know, in the sense of a paternity test, there's no denying. But... I 100% agree, start with yourself and don't go for the accusation. But for someone who's already that paranoid, you'll never have a concrete yes.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Or unless you did it secretly, which people also have done. I think we've read things on that.
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209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
I'm sure that's happened. And I'm sure there's people who have done that and have never said a word, been happy and all buttoned up from there on out.
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209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Yeah, as do I. I don't think you're being an asshole at all because with any story that relates to giving birth, being pregnant.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Whoever it is that is pregnant and giving birth, all decisions are theirs and that's final.
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209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
I mean, it can be traumatic. It can be dangerous, life-threatening. There's a lot of shit going on.
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209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Well, but you don't know it's going to go smooth until you're done. You know what I mean? So you're always ramping up. You never know what's going to happen. And the last thing you need is to be dealing with all this external stress from your partner's family.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Which, why also? What's the fascination?
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209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Kind of like, you'll know. You'll know, bitch.
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209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
You'd know. I don't know why people pester people for things. I ask people too when it's like, hey, can you do that at this time? And I'm like, yes. And if I forget, please remind me. Please bug me until I do it. But there's also situations where we'll let you know. We'll update you. But now that you've shown, you go this nuts. And I don't get it.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Because of the tone, like I'm still thinking about that initial thing, the reaction to them.
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209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
I'm trying to figure out why. And was that all because of her not being able to be involved how she wanted the first time and knowing she'd have to go through that again?
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
So she wants to be overly involved, like from the moment with this kid.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Okay. Because it's just kind of strange.
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209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
I get people being excited, right? Families get really excited. But I also know. That once you set that boundary, you know, I just can't imagine being a family member who would cross those lines to be just like, how does she not understand she's being too much?
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Was that referencing the first pregnancy or this one? The first one, two years ago.
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209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
See, but is it goodwill, right? I think we're finding out it's not. I think people can mask real intentions under the guise of things that are, you know, generally seen as goodwill.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Right. Because if you're going to the lengths to that for your own place, why not make sure they're set up first?
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209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
You know, and like you're saying, it could be. you could even do it earlier. Like you don't have to wait for the shower if you have good intention. But if you're going to go to the lengths to set up that at your own place, I mean, baby's not going to be at your place for a while. At least I would think.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Don't you keep the baby home for like a good amount of time? Before they venture out to, like, grandparents' house?
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Because we've seen babies in public and you're like, that baby's way too young to be out here.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Well, it's not like a bikini at the beach.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
You're taking off a freaking wedding dress.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Like, hey, John, I've just got to take off this dress real quick. Hang out for a second.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Well, the mom's taking full advantage of that for sure.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Especially with how crazy she is about the babies.
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209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Oh, this home is not fit for the baby. I'm going to take the baby. I already have a perfectly fit room. Then you get into that kind of crazy stuff.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
I'm still stuck on the wedding dress thing.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Or he's just that oblivious to his wife's wants and needs and actually being her partner. Because that's kind of where the pattern, that's the pattern here.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
I'm just curious about their daily life now. I want to get into their, you know, who does the chores, who takes care of the kid, who does this and that.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
It just makes you... You want to just know the whole situation.
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209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
I just, I'm still not even comfortable with it. I don't feel like... She's got to get more paranoid. I don't feel like he will... I don't think it'll work out that way. The two week thing. And I'm wondering if he even actually truly did that.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Because I don't trust him. I don't trust him now.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Hey, send her on a little vacation somewhere.
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
It came early, but we just want to, you know, we're not able to go right now, obviously. But we would love for you guys to go enjoy this. Guess what?
Two Hot Takes
209: Paranoid or Perfectly Executed? Ft. Dylan Efron
Gosh, that last one was like a three for one.
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204: Love It or Leave It..
This is like the sequel to What's in the Box. It's just the flip.
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204: Love It or Leave It..
All of a sudden, I have a feeling to check all our floorboards at home.
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203: Is Eloping Underrated?..
Like, it's... Well, and if you knew ahead of time, why is it a problem now? And bring some goddamn cheese that's in your pocket.
Two Hot Takes
203: Is Eloping Underrated?..
Yeah, I mean, Linda's acting like she's sitting down in the reverse, okay? We're flipping it. Okay. She eats vegan and she's sitting down in a vegan restaurant enjoying her meal in a very safe space because it's all vegan food, okay? I walk in with a giant burger, double, triple stacked, juices everywhere. It's basically just raw meat, right? Yeah.
Two Hot Takes
203: Is Eloping Underrated?..
And I'm sitting right next to her just enjoying my burger that's clearly not from there. That I can see being very insensitive and also just being kind of be like, yeah, what the F is this shit? But when you flip it all, it's like it doesn't make any sense. She's acting like there is such injustice. And it's, oh, you're being so mischievous and you're trying to trick everybody.
Two Hot Takes
203: Is Eloping Underrated?..
Trick everybody into what? Into what? It's like you put laxatives in the cake and you just found out and everyone's going to go home and be on the toilet all night. I just don't, I don't get the reaction.
Two Hot Takes
203: Is Eloping Underrated?..
And where are you going to find the sign? Are you going to print one real quick? Cake is vegan. Everyone else would be like, duh.
Two Hot Takes
203: Is Eloping Underrated?..
It's like you were desperately searching for something to be upset about. Anything. What can I be upset about? That's what it feels like. It was like she was looking for something. Yeah. I'm going to attack that cake and I'm going to try and ruin her night.
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203: Is Eloping Underrated?..
That's fine. But at least they're coming up with half, you know, they half make sense with what they're saying. Not this completely just pulled out. I don't know. She's nuts.
Two Hot Takes
203: Is Eloping Underrated?..
More than most people's whole entire wedding is what the tent is.
Two Hot Takes
203: Is Eloping Underrated?..
Just to rent the tent. To rent it. And not the inside stuff.
Two Hot Takes
203: Is Eloping Underrated?..
No, this is... This is so dumb. I just hate it. Because you handled it perfectly from start to finish.
Two Hot Takes
203: Is Eloping Underrated?..
And I'm so over the shit about, oh, you should just let these people walk all over you for harmony's sake. What the fuck do you mean?
Two Hot Takes
203: Is Eloping Underrated?..
And he's choosing her over you. He's enabling. On your wedding day.
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203: Is Eloping Underrated?..
No, but the problem with that game is she'll show up to yours, be all happy and whatever. And then by the time she ends up getting married, it's going to be a huge problem. It's just- Oh, it'd just be so funny though. It'd be so satisfying. There's no other way to play this than the way she did. It's the most professional. It's the most clear.
Two Hot Takes
203: Is Eloping Underrated?..
It's every part about it was exactly how we would say to do it.
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203: Is Eloping Underrated?..
You're just dealing with someone who is impossible. I would just be waiting for the day that my brother realized- what this, just look at what is in front of you. You know, and I, listen, I've learned that in life, you just kind of control your deal. You watch everyone else around you go through their stories and their lives. You don't control anybody.
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203: Is Eloping Underrated?..
You just kind of watch what they do, offer advice here and there. You know, maybe pull someone out of the way of a bus that's about to hit them, you know, metaphorically. Yeah.
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But you can't really get involved and say, hey, brother, I think she's horrible for you. And you're going to end up in a miserable bowl. You can't play that because you'll end up being the one that's ostracized. And so it sucks. But I think you played everything perfectly. You're definitely not a bridezilla.
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You're far from it. I am shocked that your family is split and divided on this because it couldn't be more clear what is right and what is wrong.
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yeah i mean are people swooping in and like the brother's defense why why are we split golden child why are we split and if you are split on this then you go off on an island with those two and you know what maybe we'll figure out if this can all we can repair this at some point but i just can't deal maybe we can reconvene and compare notes I'm going on my honeymoon.
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And as far as all you people that are saying I'm in the wrong, I'm on an extended honeymoon. I'm on a long ass honeymoon until you can come around to your senses.
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Unless brother comes around at some point and really- Apologizes. And is like, listen, you know, blah, blah, blah. I got the best of me and this and that. Other than that, I'm not interested right now. Because it was so easy for you to walk away on some bullshit ass shit about a white dress. Come on.
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When we do say, you know, have your partners back, you're a team. But not when it, this is not when it pulls you away from shit like this.
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You know what we need? We need a scoreboard up here. One side, traditional wedding. Other side, elope. And then we keep score.
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I don't foresee anyone like that showing up and being like adamant even after they've been clear about I'm wearing white. We're like, no, you're not going to get let in. They still show up. I really don't foresee that.
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Well, you are definitely not the asshole. I can't even believe that's a question. But no, it wasn't over a word. Thank God this person revealed who they truly are before we got any further. That's my first thought when any of these stories happen.
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Thank God it happened now and not a second later. It has nothing. This whole story has nothing to do with Chad. Nothing. This whole story has everything to do with someone revealing their true self to you and doing it in a way where it's irrefutable. Okay. You said one sentence. You claim one word. And based off of that, I can paint a whole picture. It is, I mean, it made it so clear.
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It's not a, oh, well, I could be, you know, manipulated into thinking that blah, blah, blah. There's no talking away out of this. It makes it so clear and obvious. And I'm just glad it happened now. Like, yes, we can talk about how terrible it all is. But for OP, this is the best thing that could have happened.
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I don't know. It feels like it just came out of nowhere. It feels like something happened where Karen has changed.
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Not a bad strategy to lead with. All right, we're going to get married. We're going to have a big wedding. Well, a small, whatever, whatever size wedding. Doesn't matter. We're going to get married. We're going to have the ceremony, do the reception. We're going to do the whole thing. Everyone's going to be there, whatever. Because...
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it exposes so much, not only between the couple themselves, but between the girlfriend of your brother, of a different family member, of your aunt.
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It exposes so much, although those came out really on the wedding day. At the wedding. So I'm thinking, what if you, and it reminds me of when it's fourth down and the quarterback goes out and they try to go, And they try to get the team to jump. Oh, yeah. Even though they have no intention of ever actually spiking the ball.
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There's no intention of even starting that play ever. It's just to try and get them.
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So why don't we go down the path of... Let's get married. We're... God damn it, we're getting married. We're having a big wedding. And then, all of a sudden, you know what? We changed our minds. We're actually going to save our money and elope. But we've exposed all the craziness.
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it's about the couple no it's about the couple it's what the couple wants i know so that's a win you just can't have that's a win for the hybrid flights we have weddings we have eloping in the middle it's a hybrid like a hybrid vehicle yeah the trickery the trick you can use some gas but you can also use some electric yeah yeah they're probably none of that made any sense but
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Yes. Well, at the core of it, it's truly loving someone and respecting just people for who they are. We're all just out here trying to figure out what this is. We're all as, like, humans, we call ourselves, walking around on this planet in the middle of nowhere.
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Our biggest enemy is probably out there somewhere. It's not ourselves.
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And so it's just, like, people are so small-minded when it's just, like, look up and realize... Well...
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But at the core of it, it's just really love people for who they are, especially if they're close. You know, what OP said, they're your partner's favorite person. They grew up – like, it's almost inconceivable to say –
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no they're not gonna i don't want them at our wedding like are you even connected as a team because i mean it could be anything it could be race religion gender i mean anything you can name that people attack about each other oh my god at the core of it it's really about just respect who people are and let them live their lives
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Wow. Okay. Well, I get that we had a time crunch based on the next wedding that they were obliged to. As the couple getting married... I think you have all power over anything to do with that night. If you want to, I don't know, flip, this is weird, but flip the reception and the ceremony.
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And then also, I guess if you're going to get married, do you really love your partner?
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Because your partner is not just themselves. Your partner is their circumstances, their family. It's where they come from. It's their friends. Your partner is a whole group. It's not just them. You don't marry. Well, you physically marry one person, but you're entering a life not in with just them, but with a whole set.
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It's harder to not, it's harder to always be fighting and causing all this shit.
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100%. That's another big piece to all these is going into marriage, you have to consider the future. Because if you guys want kids, well, now you really got to look at the bigger picture about who's in these villages. Because that plays a big role. As soon as kids come, it's a little late to start having those battles. And if you do, then you're looking at a really complicated situation.
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So eloping is still on the table, but don't do it just, hey, you know what? I know we met three weeks ago, but I think we go over here and we get a same day marriage real quick. Like, no.
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Eh, just push another year. It's already been a couple. What's one more? Why? Where have I adopted this accent all of a sudden?
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You could theoretically do that. You can kind of do whatever you want and mess with times and do whatever. So I really am wanting more context as to is this a pattern that she has dealt with forever with her mom where I can't count on her to get anywhere on time. I tell her – I've started to try and tell her the time is 10 a.m. when it's really noon. Somehow she's still late.
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I feel like that must be a common experience. It has to be. I know people are like, die hard. Yes, we're going to have a wedding. But even though you know you're still going to have it, you have to hit that moment where you're like,
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Does anyone have an annulment document here that I can fill out?
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Is this kind of something where... I need more info on the mom-daughter relationship here because it seems that it would not be...
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I mean, at that point, I don't even know if we define it as a boundary. We start defining it as like a, you know, 30 mile thick concrete wall. Not long, thick, thick wall.
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Weddings are the culmination of just years and years and years. And honestly, generations of certain issues or certain blah, blah, blah, or this or that, it all comes to a head with a wedding because these people, right? If you think about holiday gatherings or birthdays,
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You often find as you get older, you start having to go to multiple different ones because people split up or there's drama or there's whatever. But guess what? That's not possible on a wedding day. Everyone has to come together to one event. They cannot avoid each other anymore. And it's good to put in place like, hey, maybe have wedding security, have your coordinator involved.
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You can keep certain people separate. Definitely use a seating chart. I don't know where that whole thing came from.
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really that difficult or you know that out of the question to reach out and say hey where are you you know it's 10 minutes to two do you think you guys are going to get here so there's something happening that we don't know and i just i don't know it feels weird to not hold it at least for a second get in touch and if they're like yeah i'm still not ready and you're really pushing it
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But you make it very calculated so that you can pull this day off and hope, just have a little bit of hope that people will realize what they're there for and who they're there for.
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It's very often forgotten what weddings are about and who they are for.
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Here's the thing. I think weddings overall, in my experience, are a huge, I think gamble's the wrong word, but it's a huge risk reward, okay? A wedding can be, and I've heard people audibly say this, can be the best day of your life.
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Right. It can be. It's possible. Yeah. But at the risk of all of these dynamics, everything you're bringing in and that comes together for that day is wrong.
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you know, I think unfortunately for the vast majority, risky in the sense that not like, oh, the flowers weren't perfect or the buns didn't show up on time, but more for the risk of things going wrong between people and dynamics and that ruining your day. I think that's so present and so common that Yeah. If you want a wedding, 100% go for it.
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And I hope at the end of the day, you're saying that was the best day of my life, but you got to understand there are certain risks and you got to do everything you can to mitigate. Like we were just talking about the security or having the wedding coordinator involved to say, Hey, if this girl shows up in the white dress, she can't come in. Like those were very smart, calculated moves.
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Exactly. Right. At that point, she's shown her intentions. She does not believe in this. She's clearly trying to sabotage. Yeah. And, you know, I never really, as we were going through this, thought of Margo as a threat.
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I pictured just some, you know, yeah, she was controlling. She had all these things.
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It's the best move because then you can guarantee, and it had happened, you can guarantee that you'll go forward without worry, without stress, and enjoy the rest of your wedding day.
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From what I've experienced, I think people are either in one or two categories. Like, oh yeah, we're just eloping. That's just who we are. Then you have others that are like, nope, we're 100% doing the full wedding. And then maybe there's some like us on the fence, but It's really choose your own adventure and just deal with what comes.
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But don't get pushed into one of those categories because of other people. Make it the choice that you want. But man, like with this last one, crazy thing to go through, but a hell of a story to tell the rest of your life. guess what happened at our wedding? And then you can say, my mom showed up with my ex and said this. Like, you can't make that up.
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Like you can tell, that's what I think about some of the worst things you can experience in life is the stories you can tell.
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Is how I met your mother like in the forefront again? Is it like in the prime time?
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I'm sitting here like ready to hear the advice. I don't... I think...
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Well, this is certainly not the... You know, just tell them, confess your feelings type of situation we usually talk about on these shows. And again, it's the wedding. It's the, which is so interesting because it's always perceived as like, oh, you're going to lock them down. Like once you're married, you're locked in forever, which is totally just not the reality these days.
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It's, you know, it, it's, it's not, it's, it's not as easy as like a breakup, but it's, it's, it's the same.
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Right. But it's just interesting how that sense of commitment brings out these, like these last ditch moments. You know, it forces people to really do something that they never thought they would or confess things that they never. So.
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Because I think they think it's never going to ever be a reality.
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And then something about, you know, we talk about ring clarity and that kind of thing.
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Something about it pushes them to the limit where they get, they almost ignore intuition and they just do. They don't even think. The problem with this, and it just is so sad for her because, you know, we started this with, I've always wanted an older brother. I've always been envious of people with that. And I thought I'd finally found that and I had this awesome friend.
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And then he meets someone amazing and we become very close. Like it's the perfect relationship. it's like the, just what everyone hopes for.
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Well, and it could be like, if it had stayed that dynamic, like if he didn't have these feelings, we're looking at such a fun runway for life.
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You in no way would do that without your mom and grandma there. There's no chance that that would possibly even happen.
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Yeah, it's just it sucks that it felt that it had to come to a point on this day. Miss the bride. Be late to the bridal shower. Be late to anything else. Be late to my birthday party. I know where I can make us, you know, make a point. But it really sucks that I had to do this because, yeah, you do have.
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Otherwise, they'll perpetuate for 10 years down the line until they ruin your marriage.
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But at the end of the day... As like have to, as in like, well, this is the next step. This is what people do. This is...
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the ultimate power on your wedding day but also there were certain constraints in place there were where and also you can't have all your people show up and hey guys we're gonna have you sit here for 50 minutes and then we'll start you know i mean it it gets to a point where it's like you have to move on my hands are tied so overall vote on this one what do you think it is Not the asshole.
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See, that's all wonderful, right? That's great. But for me, that still doesn't satisfy the, oh, I'm going to confess my love to my brother's wife. It is weird. We get there a little. We do get there a little. Oh, I thought you were done.
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That's great progress. Great things to work on for yourself. None of which satisfies what happened. None of which, and I don't think you ever could justify what happened. You're going to therapy and yes, you're processing your parents' divorce and whatever other dynamics have led you to this point. But the reality is things are forever different.
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And if I'm in that dynamic, I mean, essentially you're going to therapy to try and And it would be like going through a breakup, essentially. It's like, I imagine it feels like heartbreak when you come to this movie-like moment, confessing your love, no matter what the circumstance was. And you still do that. And now you're working through this breakup again.
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Do you think in doing all of that and loving your fiance as much as you do, you can ever really lose those feelings? Is that possible? Because I know at this point, it's very clear. You will never have her. It's not a reality. But you still had those feelings until the point they were strong enough to where you confessed as your soon-to-be wife is wedding dress shopping to your brother's wife.
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Yeah, no, it makes sense. And I'm not super... I just went on a soapbox.
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It's not confusing how he got to this. Yeah. What's more confusing is how we're moving forward as the four of us. And even him and his fiance. I feel like if... I mean, power to them. If they work it out and they can get to a healthy spot, that's incredible. For me... As the fiance in that position,
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it's going to be hard to truly know my partner has worked through those feelings, does not have those feelings, truly loves me. And anytime then the four of us are together, that I don't have to always be like looking over at him to see that if he's looking at her and always trying to suss out that dynamic, because I lived that with my ex and I knew something was going on.
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Turns out I was fucking right. Um, And it blew up my whole world. And I think I'm so sensitive to that, that in this situation, for me, I don't know if it'd be possible.
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And I do hope that is genuinely coming across that way because of how that's how she is and not because she's clinging on to pre this happening and pretending everything's fine. Like, no, no, we'll work through it. We're still going to have our wedding. I would love for you still be like, I hope it's not out of the panic and shock of what's just hit her world.
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And that. She is in that place. But even either way, like you just said.
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People find their people. And that's just one of the fun aspects of life. It is. Working through that, you go through some crazy shit. Like I said earlier, you have some good stories to tell. But, you know, you always keep searching until you find that person because it really, you know.
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It is interesting. It is pretty obvious when a parent of, you know, one of the, the partners is not there. Yeah. Like in the wedding, I was just in my friend, Mike, if his dad wasn't around, we would have all been like, well, cause his dad's also named Mike. We'd also been like, where's Mike? We got to go find Mike right now. We, you know, we would have all been on it like a mission.
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Because of the showerhead thing? What's the difference in time here? Is it pretty quick turnaround? It feels like it. Because it seems like we're just about to go on our honeymoon, so this just happened at the wedding.
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But it's recent, right? Like, we're not talking, oh, this is five years later.
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you know honestly this one and maybe it's because it's you know of all the other stories we just went through this one to me just feels like a little speed bump like it's this lady though i got issues with her still baby speed bump or not i know i got issues i'm just like i'm coming off the high of all the other stories or the low i don't whatever you want to call it and i'm like okay this isn't so bad don't don't sweat the small stuff
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So are we comparing really this picture frame to the shower head thing? No, no, no.
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I think, yeah, kind of. I think it's, I don't, birthdays, I think, extend to people that you kind of loosely know.
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And like, if you know it's someone's birthday and you've had contact with them in the past, sure, happy birthday. But anniversary. Oh my God, am I doing it wrong? I think anniversary is a little bit closer. Like your parents. Okay. Maybe your closest friends. Things like that. People who you actually know their anniversary.
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I mean, it's kind of to each their own. It's kind of like a, hey, ask for it. And if you get some, cool. you always say, get the bag, get your bag.
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So yeah, you just, I don't know. I'm so curious of the dynamic.
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I mean, the difference here is you could throw the anniversary party and just invite people. If people bring gifts and feel it's necessary or feel that they would like to give you a gift, then that's great. But saying like, okay, um, you're invited. We're only want cash.
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The showerhead thing is still like, the showerhead is so random.
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That's like getting someone a, I don't know. I can't even think of something. What's something that random?
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I agree, but also then, what is our dynamic with these people?
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That's what I'm saying. Why are you stepping up and being like, I'll design the invitations, I'll do all this. Have we...
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come I mean like have we healed from this is the dynamic fine because it seems like if we're on like this family friend we're like on this fighting petty thing just let him go then why are we helping so much with this and now that you've helped so much yeah you've kind of already given the gift of you know of helping
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Helping someone design their invitations and do all this, that could kind of be your gift. I know. So it's like to bring something additionally. But at this point, if you're that involved with them and that close, if you're on a joking playing field, aha, remember you got me that showerhead? Hey, I got you something just as nice for your little thing.
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If you're on that playing field, but otherwise... I don't see the point in being super petty and getting something irrelevant. I don't know.
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That's why the dynamic's so weird. I don't get what's happening here.
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It's just so unbelievably random. It's actually hilarious.
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I don't know. Showerheads, it depends on the kind, like what I said at the beginning. I know.
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Well, all I can say is you're choosing your path and you're choosing your battles. What are we going to say about it?
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No. I mean, honestly, you've got to learn to set your own boundaries and do that on your own, so... I mean, you can make as many suggestions as you want to somebody, but until they actually, you know, make the move to do something about it.
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See, that just doesn't happen out of the blue. This has been building up.
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Honestly, next step is going to sleep. I might sleep right in this chair.
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Yes, personal story, but there's no universal answer here. It's whatever fits you.
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It just sucks. The whole thing sucks. Nobody wants to be in that position with a parent. I mean, just, I don't know, it makes you sad.
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What happened to Linda? Did Linda fall on the dance floor and hit her head?
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From what I hear, we heard reasons one, two, and three. I have a number four.
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We clearly told everyone, here's exactly what we're serving and it's all vegan because we are vegan and it's our wedding. And why would we have anything at our wedding that we cannot eat?
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Right, exactly. That's why she hit her head on the dance floor.
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I mean, I don't see how that is offensive because vegan is very safe. I don't know anyone who can't eat something vegan, but I do know people who can't have dairy, don't eat certain meats or whatever, can't eat fish. Who knows what it is? I could see how the problem would be flipped like, oh, it was supposed to be dairy free or supposed to be meat free.
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And it was filled with X, Y, Z because I can't eat that. No, all of a sudden we're offended because the sky is blue and I'm not the one being married. I don't know what the issue is. What's the real problem? Because it certainly ain't the cake. And then and then also now newly husband. What do you mean? Keep the peace.
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That's what, like, when I was talking about the middle school, high school thing. It's the trauma from those people. If people had never said anything or made fun of you or made you feel bad about it, it wouldn't be traumatic at all because it's just you. That's where it comes from. And that's what this family is doing now.
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I have so much information from Reddit now that when I'm talking to friends about issues going on in their life, I'm like, well, this one lady, 27 female.
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I just have people, friends, close friends of mine that'll say, oh, you're doing the podcast thing. When they bring up issues to me, I'm like, well… Did you talk to blah, blah, blah? Did they see it this way? Because maybe they're thinking about it like this. He's like, oh, you're doing what you do on the show. I'm like, well, yeah.
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Veggie cheese? Like, what did you expect to get? He thought it was veggies. Well, I'm also wondering, because you're right, it is really odd. Like, do we think maybe there's, like, a learning issue or a reading issue? And maybe too embarrassed to say it? Because it does seem... Very interesting.
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I don't take risks like that. Anywhere I go, if I don't understand something that's on the menu, I'm looking that word up. Or if it's something I'm used to, as simple as like a chicken sandwich. And the sauce has a weird name and there's something in, you know, some word in there. I'll look it up. I don't take a chance.
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As compared to some members of Morgan's family, we have found out.
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So it depends, right? It depends who you're comparing to. Compared to you, I'm probably very picky. But I don't take chances. But also, I just think... This makes me feel like I'm very easygoing because I'll order stuff. It's kind of not what I expected. I'm just like, I'm eating it. I'm good. I don't know. It's just a non-issue in my world.
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And obviously if something's really bad, right, we've all had those experiences. That's a different story.
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This is like, no, it's perfectly prepared the way it's supposed to be. And you're just an idiot. And now you're making a scene. I could not put up with this long term.
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Again, a pattern. There's a pattern of this happening. You've brought it up or that's kind of part of this conversation. If you do it, nothing changes. I'm out.
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There you go. I liked that. I think this cut your losses. Yeah. You know what's kind of crazy? I don't know what a macchiato is either.
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I wouldn't do this. But I would look and see what was in it. But I've never ordered a macchiato, so I actually don't even know what it entails.
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And then you're just upset and angry. I'm picturing you like before a live show like, oh, it's coffee.
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No, definitely not. But no, I feel like I've only ever ordered coffee, latte or cappuccino.
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What? Oh, my God. We're off the rails. Why are you coming for me right now? We're going back in.
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Definitely not. Where are you getting this? said stained or marked but why me why not you why not jerry like why why are you in control of my my rear end and i'm not i don't know what's happened here i don't know there's a port-a-potty story you guys are i don't even know what's going on i think did you have a gummy
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She keeps on reading the menu to him or are they going separate ways?
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I mean, I think there's an issue if you're having a tantrum past the age of Eight? Ten?
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I'm talking like a tantrum, okay? Not like an adult just being angry and whatever. I'm talking like little kid screaming just ridiculous tantrums.
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You can't just drop bombs like that. You guys, my pants are completely clean. I feel like I need to show them my pants.
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Well, there's probably, you know, there's jail time included with that. But there are other ways to speed this thing up, if that's really what your motive is.
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Which is pretty freaking wild. Morgan used to make me come over to her house during COVID and just like do a bunch of like tricks. Like I felt like a pony. Actually, you made me be a pony one time for TikTok. She's like, let's make something out of this media world. And I'm like, we're too old. We were jumping over rolls of toilet paper trying to make it.
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I would be so betrayed. I... Oh, my God. I'm betrayed for her. I'm pissed. This is unacceptable. And and to the point to the multiple lies, it's not just kind of like, oh, like I'm stuck in traffic. Like it's like like, oh, now I have to do like just all of those lies to in a row is not that's that makes me think what else you lie about just casually all the time. What? Yeah.
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There is no can't make it there. At some point, there's nothing more important. And work is the most ridiculous excuse. I don't care what you're in. You're in the meeting with the CEO to who cares? It becomes like all of that's irrelevant. Irrelevant. Irrelevant.
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And who's going to fault you? Hey, I have to run home and take my wife, right? Wife in because she's having this crazy serious health thing.
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Who's going to be like, oh, you didn't finish that report yesterday. We lost the client. Like-
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And when your partner who you trust is telling you that they're about to be there, then why would you call an ambulance? You are supposed to trust them that they're telling the truth.
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I always bothers me when people like don't believe people when they're not feeling well like if they're telling you that they're not well believe them like stop being like oh they're dramatic like no believe them that's all I got to say Justin I feel like you had something
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I mean, there are certain situations in life and we know the people that are kind of the cry wolf people.
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It's very different, but I'm just trying to see all sides where someone could like him at his level that he's at right now, the low level could make some argument. Well, you always say you feel crappy and you always do this, but it's like,
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And if this isn't just the ultimate proof that you are just the biggest loser and not capable and not deservant of this person, like, I don't know what else there could be.
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If it's not, it should be. It sounds pretty cool. It reminds me of something that would be said in Game of Thrones. Anyway, sorry. Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, this is just the worst. I don't know. I have no more words for it.
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I would have such a hard time with this one. Like, I know that they're married with a brand new kid. And so I don't want to like quickly be like divorce. But I just genuinely knowing myself, like it would be so hard for me to like move past this. And we would have to go to therapy over it.
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Like he would need to have like to admit and understand what he did wrong fully before I could even consider moving past it.
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It's another one that comes down to character. This doesn't feel like, oh, it's just a mistake. This feels like, no, this is who you are. It's hard for me to separate those two because this can't be the first time that this lack of caring has shown. There's no way. And this might be the most extreme.
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life or death but it'd be weird if everything was all perfect and he was the best partner and then something happens to you and he's just totally like whatever that was cool uh are you stable now because i'm gonna head back to the office
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No, it's not. You have a one-year-old... And if you're extremely sick, your partner needs to step up. Like, there's, even if she was like, I have the flu, like, well, if you have the flu, there's a one-year-old that needs to be taken care of, so come the fuck home.
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Okay, let me tell you something about being 28. I think you've been around long enough to know the difference between, oh, I'm coming down with the cold or the flu versus no. I've never felt like this before and this is something serious. I think we all would be able to determine that Even though there's outliers, yes, where it's like it starts like that and then it gets really crazy.
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But she knew from the start and she made it apparent from the start. I need you here. When your partner says, I need you here, you go. Because if they think it's not necessary, they're not going to have you leave work if it's a big situation like, oh, if I leave work, it's going to whatever. If they know that that's a big deal, they're not going to say, I need you here if it's not serious.
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Yeah, the superhero S. Yeah. Oh, so good, Lauren. I was never really good at drawing that.
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Absolutely. I mean, like, the way that she just brushes over the fact that he was cheating.
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I downloaded it for a friend. A friend wanted to swipe on my phone.
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That's I mean, that's what usually people say. Some stupid shit.
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Yeah. My boyfriend literally his mom went to the hospital and thought it was serious and he was on the other side of the country and literally got like left work early and got on a flight and went straight there.
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His mom is saying for him that, no, he's marrying you, all of you for you. When that directly contradicts everything. So with that in mind, this is some could say, oh, well, it's just he doesn't like one little whatever part of you, whatever. But really, this is a character thing.
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This isn't just, oh, he made a bad comment and it's a pattern of bad comments, which, you know, I always like to react to a pattern and not a one-time whatever. And, you know, it makes it feel like this is a overall him red flag.
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Where he can't get over the scar and he's going to keep bringing it up and then drop the bomb. probably of the worst comment he's made, or at least what it appears to be.
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Yeah, it is. It is a good question. Like, where does that even come from? Is it just because he thinks it's normal or funny to say stuff like that? Is he trying to get something like a reaction? Is he trying to
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make her feel small and that she's like that she gets the prize by winning him like what is the motive is he hoping that oh well if i keep making comments and now man now that i'm really committing forever maybe i can convince her to i don't know like there's there's no changing i like i don't think that that would be it because i feel he would instead say something like
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oh, if that bothers you, I'll help chip in for removal. But then again, I don't know. People are stupid. And also, that would be wrong for him to say, too. But it's just, I don't know, guys. I don't know.
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And if there's something, because also it's not a perfect world where you do love every single aspect of the person you're with. We're not perfect. Nobody ever in history or in the future is ever going to fit together like a perfect puzzle piece. No. It's about loving someone for who they are.
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overall because you're not going to love we all have flaws exactly and so if there is a flaw you learn to love that flaw or you just don't bring it up and you don't keep making it a thing and if it's really that big of a deal for you then why like what are we doing anyway
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Because someone else is going to love this person as 10 times more.
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Imagine if she did that right before the wedding. She's like, I'm marrying you and not your non farting ness.
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Well, that would be kind of funny. I know. It's less serious. I know it is. But no, I mean, I like a lot of you guys know this. I've talked about it before, but I have a birthmark on my head and it makes like half of my hair color a different color. And I'm not insecure about it, but I don't know. Sometimes I just I want to not show it because I maybe I'm a little insecure about it. I don't know.
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It's just I guess I don't. I don't like people to think that I diet because it makes me seem way edgier than I am. So maybe that's where the insecure part is. I feel like I want to wear a sign that says, no, this is just a birthmark, but whatever it is, there's some feelings there. And, um, If my fiance were to say that to me about my birthmark, yes, I can diet.
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But knowing that he thinks that my birthmark looks bad or negative and he doesn't love me for the uniqueness or the random parts of me, that would hurt so much that I don't know that I would be interested in that relationship. Mm-hmm. Completely agree.
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Well said. Because we all know from elementary school, middle school, high school, I bet we can all remember those comments, remember exactly where they happened, when they happened, and they still cross into our minds to this day.
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It's that or, you know, it's any other feature or anything like this scar. I mean, she's obviously well aware of it. She's hopefully made peace with it and is just living her life until you come around and be like, Oh, but that scar.
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And you have to constantly point it out and that whether it's trauma from the past or trauma literally created from you not getting over the scar, you keep digging that knife in every single time.
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Oh, and then let's not forget, too, you don't want that mother-in-law in your life. No, thanks.
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I mean, it's the classic. Was anyone surprised when that part came up? I mean, it's the classic support your son. I mean, I think we've seen it on both sides where they fiercely defend and enable.
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I'm an enemy. I'm an enemy. But yeah, you're enabling and you're just defending your child.
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And trying to hold it together probably for their sake because it doesn't seem like she and OP have the strongest relationship because I think in that sense, it would be more of... Like, yeah, that was almost taking her side, making her feel better instead of just fully focusing on her son and the marriage. Oh, you're going to walk away just for this? You're going to give up your whole marriage?
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Well, right. And it's not oftentimes, it's not whatever physical attribute or thing about you that is the traumatizing thing. It's the way people treat you over it.
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Hey, Meredith, Meredith, Meredith. I need a hero. I need a lady who comes in with a robe.
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Yeah. I'm sorry for bringing you into that, John. I know based on this last year, the meanest thing that I've done to Lisa is talk about your marriage. And I wanted to burn that with you. I apologize. And the thing that I regret most about our friendship is, um, lying.