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Two Hot Takes

195: You Must Hate Them?!

Thu, 12 Dec 2024

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Two Hot Takes host, Morgan, is joined by guest co-host Justin! You'd think that the people in your life are supposed to love you or at the very least like you but.. sometimes it feels like they just hate you. That's the vibe we got from the stories this week. There is no love lost between someone here.. or are we off base and there are perfectly reasonable explanations?! You tell us your thoughts on these ones! Fill out the google form to submit your audiobook hot takes: https://forms.gle/doTtiE7JD9yd8TQAA Bonus Content on Patreon including new full length episodes: https://www.patreon.com/TwoHotTakes MERCH is here: https://shop.twohottakes.com I can't wait to see you all in these, especially at our live shows!! Our PO Box!! Two Hot Takes. 5042 Wilshire BLVD. #470. Los Angeles, CA 90036 Our SubReddit to Submit YOUR Stories!!! https://reddit.app.link/twohottakes Full length Video episodes available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TwoHotTakes Partners: Audible: http://audible.com/tht for all the years best :) Essie:https://www.essie.com/ shop Essie nail polish for the holidays! Shopify:http://shopify.com/tht for $1 per month trial period!  Talkspace: Get $80 off your first month with promo code SPACE80 at http://Talkspace.com/THT Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What is the theme of today's episode?

0.149 - 5.392 Morgan

Here we go. Welcome back to another episode of Too Hot Takes, my friends. I'm your host, Morgan. Hello. Hello.

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29.764 - 30.305 Morgan

Who are you?

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30.325 - 31.666 Justin

I don't know.

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31.686 - 33.388 Morgan

Oh, I think you know.

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34.348 - 34.909 Justin

Can you guess?

35.81 - 38.593 Morgan

Can the listeners guess? Is that a better question?

38.653 - 40.114 Justin

Yeah, that wasn't that good.

40.534 - 43.297 Morgan

No? No. Who are you?

44.378 - 44.758 Justin

Justin.

Chapter 2: What stories highlight the feeling of being hated?

690.605 - 694.607 Morgan

You must hate them. You must have some resentment here because otherwise.

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696.929 - 717.574 Justin

No, because it's possible. I mean, look at Matt and Amy. They're able to both work, have two young kids that need a lot of attention. You know, it's that age. There's so much going on. building a house, doing all this stuff, and they always are still spending time.

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717.894 - 721.659 Morgan

They always prioritize each other and their coupleness.

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721.799 - 725.404 Justin

Some days are busy, but they also spend so much time with their kids.

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726.024 - 726.545 Morgan

They're doing it all.

726.565 - 753.185 Justin

It is possible. It's a choice to not, and it's a choice to do it. This is very deliberate. So it's, I know the way it's written, it's like, it's just not possible. I couldn't possibly go home after work. I have to go work out. Otherwise, I'm going to be a mess and it'll wreck my routine. How could I ever do that?

754.096 - 774.928 Morgan

And I love that his solution and his compromise. I asked her if she wanted me to talk to my mom and sister. So you're going to pass off your emotional presence, your physical labor of helping raise your children onto other women? You're going to just pass that off on other women?

775.148 - 775.328 Unknown Guest

Yeah.

775.508 - 781.492 Morgan

Because you think that's a woman's job? Also to go sit at a cafe that long? What are...

Chapter 3: How do relationships affect personal belongings?

1863.328 - 1887.295 Justin

leave okay like this is way bigger come on now come on now i i mean this is this is trust this is just a total basic mismatch it's not working this doesn't work it's just really hard because i'm a very sentimental person you are but i wouldn't want to be with someone that challenges that all the time

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1888.499 - 1915.199 Justin

You know, if you want to be with me, be with me for who I am, which includes possessions that I'm sentimental over or that mean a lot to me. And yeah, I mean, you can get over it. It sucks to lose something like that, but... Things could be worse. Things could be a lot worse. But to me, it's a trust issue when you can't leave your partner in your room.

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1916.239 - 1934.842 Justin

And now you have to go forward thinking like, oh, if anything means a lot to me, I should hide it. Because if he doesn't believe in it, or if he doesn't agree with it, then he'll... Also, why was the ripping up necessary? Like, it's very direct, targeted. There is motive.

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1934.862 - 1935.542 Morgan

I know.

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1936.361 - 1943.284 Justin

And that's why moving forward, that's why my first statement was be done because you don't need that.

1943.924 - 1959.39 Morgan

No, this was all happening four months in. They had been together for four months and he felt comfortable enough to go into her room, grab something that was meaningful. It's on a wall next to posters.

1959.41 - 1960.151 Justin

Clearly displayed.

1961.051 - 1977.997 Morgan

and grab it and rip it up. And then when confronted about it says, oh, you're always sentimental. You always want to hold on to things. You always want to hold on to things that I think are meaningless. Guess what? It doesn't matter what you think of them.

1978.757 - 2004.421 Morgan

The person you're with, the person you're supposed to at least like, if not grow to love eventually, I don't know, you could be in love after four months even. You are literally so disrespectful and you think your opinion matters more than what they want. So much so that you're going to rip up something that's sentimental from a trip to Japan.

Chapter 4: Why is communication important in relationships?

2015.625 - 2016.485 Justin

It's a blessing to get that.

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2016.505 - 2028.749 Morgan

That's a run. That's a run. I don't think he likes her. I genuinely think this person, how can you like someone and do this to them? I wouldn't even do this to people I don't like.

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2029.549 - 2029.829 Unknown Guest

Yeah.

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2030.43 - 2030.63 Unknown Guest

Yeah.

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2030.87 - 2052.82 Morgan

To hurt them in such a way. It's clearly on a wall next to posters they find precious and meaningful. And then to be hit with that slap in the face. You're always holding on to things that are sentimental. You've known me for four months, motherfucker. Four months. I've had that fortune cookie longer than I've had you. So shut the fuck up and don't touch my stuff and get out of my life.

2053.54 - 2082.34 Justin

Yeah, I mean, it sounds like he can do no wrong. And he is the alpha. And this is just the start of the control. I'm going to control what you can have and can't have. I'm going to throw it away and rip up your shit and I'm not in trouble. It's because you shouldn't have had it in the first place because you're wrong. And what I believe is right and I will dominate this. I don't know. It's weird.

2082.785 - 2096.375 Morgan

It's extremely, extremely weird. And I do think it's about control. And I think this is one of those early moves that someone does in an abusive relationship to start pushing boundaries. I absolutely think that's the case.

2096.395 - 2098.136 Justin

I hope the comments got there, please.

2100.414 - 2108.699 Morgan

Top comment. This isn't something you need to forgive. That's wild behavior. I'd say he is probing to see how much bullshit you're willing to take.

Chapter 5: What happens when family crosses boundaries?

2516.058 - 2517.659 Morgan

Your brother at least is at fault.

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2517.699 - 2523.582 Justin

You packed it up. Your brother is 100% at fault. Oh, my God.

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2523.943 - 2551.911 Morgan

What do you... You literally gave your brother the boxes for safekeeping. You said, hey, here's my rock collection in these boxes. Please look after them for me while I'm at college. And your brother decides once you're gone to take those rocks shortly after, mind you, because the yard sale happened shortly after the move. So this was maybe what, a couple of weeks, if not days, time span.

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2552.852 - 2559.717 Morgan

And the brother goes, I'm going to dig through here, take everything good. And then the rest, here you go, mom, sell this shit.

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2560.478 - 2561.759 Justin

How can you not be mad at the mom too?

2563.226 - 2571.515 Morgan

I would say the mom likely did not know the significance. Maybe the mom thought they were the brother's rocks since the brother was the one passing off the box.

2571.615 - 2572.917 Justin

No, you know. Okay.

2573.918 - 2576.981 Morgan

If someone, if they're a good involved parent, I think they would know.

2577.001 - 2577.982 Justin

Yeah.

Chapter 6: How can you cope with losing sentimental items?

2605.127 - 2606.068 Morgan

Reasonable. Yeah.

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2606.288 - 2619.92 Justin

But all right, I'm going to pre-pack so that they're ready to go to the next place. And then the very targeted shot of the brother just saying, oh, here we go. It's so deliberate.

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2620.868 - 2636.033 Morgan

I guess maybe I'm letting the mom off the hook easy because Opie does say, like, friends gave me rocks as gifts. Family gave me rocks as gifts. That's what I'm saying. They all knew about the collection. So they all knew, right? I mean, these rocks were displayed in two cabinets in Opie's room.

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2636.073 - 2665.089 Morgan

Like, I guess for the mom not to know would be very naive and almost, like, willfully unaware, willfully uninterested in your child's interests. So to then, I guess, get two big boxes of rocks and crystals and whatever, and to not be like, Oh, you know, I wonder if these are Darcy's rocks. Like I know, you know, she just went off to college, but like, this is kind of, let me call, let me just see.

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2665.49 - 2671.754 Morgan

Or I know Darcy likes rocks at least. Maybe I, maybe I asked before I put these in the garage sale.

2672.645 - 2687.444 Justin

It's so easy. But there's experience with this within your family and there's many stories about it. Dude. People lack that common sense and or decency to just simply ask.

2687.685 - 2687.945 Morgan

Yeah.

2688.205 - 2690.809 Justin

It takes zero effort.

2691.289 - 2694.771 Morgan

You just reminded me of that experience, and I totally forgot about it.

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