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The Viall Files

E913 - My Twin Sister's Affair

Mon, 07 Apr 2025

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Welcome back to another episode of The Viall Files: Ask Nick Edition!  Our second caller’s twin sister is having an affair. And, our third caller is wondering if a D1 Quarterback gaslit her or if she’s being dramatic.  “The problem with your generation in dating culture today…." Listen to Humble Brag with Cynthia Bailey and Crystal Kung Minkoff every Monday starting October 21st! Available wherever you get your podcasts and YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@humblebragpod https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/humble-brag-with-crystal-and-cynthia/id1774286896 https://open.spotify.com/show/4NWA8LBk15l2u5tNQqDcOO?si=c03a23d537f94735 Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/  Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to [email protected] to be a part of our Monday episodes.  To Order Nick’s Book Go To: https://www.viallfiles.com  If you would like to get some texting advice, send an email to [email protected] with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line!  To advertise on this podcast please email: [email protected] or go to: https://advertising.libsyn.com/theviallfiles  THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Helix Sleep - Go to https://helixsleep.com/viall for the Spring Savings Event to get 20% Off Sitewide BetterHelp - Your well-being is worth it. Visit https://betterhelp.com/viall today to get 10% off your first month. Ritual - Mom-founded Ritual puts in the work and shows you the proof. Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at https://ritual.com/viall  Article Furniture - Article is offering our listeners $50 off your first purchase of $100 or more. To claim, visit https://article.com/viall and the discount will be automatically applied at checkout Upwork - Visit https://upwork.com right now and post your job for free. Timestamps: (00:00) - Intro (01:24) - Caller One (53:15) - Caller Two (01:44:47) - Caller Three Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @justinkaphillips @dereklanerussell  

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Chapter 1: What shocking event did Bryce experience at the baseball game?

1745.631 - 1765.529 Nick Viall

Your ego wants to hear from her. I'm guessing, you know, but like you should like, she's not changing anytime soon. You know what I'm saying? Whatever that was stopping her from saying yes to you and yes to moving in and yes to moving forward and taking the next step. Like that hasn't changed in her life. You know what I'm saying? Correct. And, And she wasn't wrong.

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1765.669 - 1777.496 Nick Viall

You know, that's a, that's a thing that we struggle with. Like, right. Is that in the heat of the moment when you were trying to convince her or talk with her and you needed an answer, whatever was telling her I'm not ready was her truth.

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1778.116 - 1787.382 Nick Viall

And she can love you and think you're great and know that a life with you would be pretty good and realize, I don't know, man, I just, I'm not ready to be a fucking housewife.

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1788.024 - 1811.06 Nick Viall

yeah i wasn't it you know i'm not saying you're pressuring her at all that worked up yeah right i wasn't worked up i wanted it either it was like okay that's that's fine like i'm you know i'm patient i have patience no i know but like you know like you said though once sometimes a relationship gets to a certain point and like i think two people act like you know like in terms what are we doing here we have been dating for three and a half years where is it going you know like

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1811.38 - 1831.906 Nick Viall

So it's a, there's no wrong answer. Like the only thing that really sucks is that like, she just was like too cowardice and too immature to just give you an honest fucking answer. And like, I don't know, man, I'm not, I'm not ready for this type of relationship. And yeah, I think we, I think we need some distance, but she didn't have the guts to do it. So you did it for her.

1832.226 - 1850.142 Nick Viall

And then she took the easy way out and, and, and, and, and got a little sloppy and she wasn't stupid. You know what I'm saying? I'm not saying she went to get caught. But like you said, like she, she went out, she was doing, she knew what she was doing. And, and maybe there's a part of her that kind of wanted, you know, maybe she doesn't want to be lying.

1850.182 - 1869.951 Nick Viall

You know, like most, very few people are like narcissistic sociopaths who just don't give a fuck. They're just they just don't they lack the maturity or the emotional whatever the fuck that like allows them to just say, you know what? Fuck, I'm scared as fuck. I don't know. I don't know if I regret this, but I do know right now I'm not ready.

1870.051 - 1885.725 Nick Viall

And yeah, we should probably take some real time apart and. I wish I could be friends with you and I wish I could call you every day, but I know that's not fair to you and we should break up. And I'm really sorry that I made promises to you about getting married to you. And, and if I, you know, but like, I'm sorry.

1885.745 - 1891.171 Nick Viall

And I fucked up and I know you're going to hate me, but like, this is what I need for myself. And she didn't have the guts to do that. She went to a baseball game instead.

Chapter 2: How should Bryce handle his girlfriend's betrayal?

4448.723 - 4470.269 Nick Viall

Yeah. I feel... Listen, I don't know your sister. I don't know you very well. This is obviously a bump in the road. That's for sure. You know? I think... I'm sure you heard me say... It's just like... There have been... You know... Not maybe to that degree. We've all had times and periods in our life where we're going to look back and be ashamed of the person we were.

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4471.17 - 4491.741 Nick Viall

And maybe that's this bouts of narcissism, selfishness, self-centeredness. Sometimes we just get so caught up in our own bullshit that we come across to many people like your sister seems to be coming across to you. And again, definitely not a therapist. I'm not even in a position, even if she was here, I'm not in a position to diagnose. But like, I don't know.

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4491.921 - 4511.485 Nick Viall

I'm going to just go ahead and bet that like your sister didn't magically become a narcissist. Right. And that like it's not as if right now you're looking back at your entire relationship and like for the first time ever seeing your sister in a whole new way and realizing that since the age of like 10, she's kind of been the narcissist, you know, and she's like some sociopath or whatever.

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4512.225 - 4533.706 Nick Viall

That doesn't seem to be the case, right? You know, so she's going through something and, you know, certainly demonstrating narcissistic, you know, she's only caring about herself. So listen, I'm optimistic that she can work through this, but to work through it, you know, you two might have to go through some periods of major reform and that might require you to what you feel,

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4534.286 - 4554.285 Nick Viall

You say, yo, if I don't have my sister, who am I? This is also an opportunity for you to rediscover yourself as an individual. I don't know what it's like to be a twin or have a twin or that bond, and I have no doubt it's very special and something that you two have that most people who aren't twins don't have. That is not an excuse.

4555.146 - 4555.286 Hannah

Yeah.

4555.834 - 4578.943 Nick Viall

to look the other way or ignore bad behavior because you guys have such a bond that you need to basically be there to enable each other and approve of bad behavior in the spirit of being close, you might have to say, I don't know who you are anymore. I don't like who you've become right now. I believe in you as a person.

4579.063 - 4600.285 Nick Viall

I'm glad you're working through this, but I'm no longer going to listen and approve of things. And if you want to be in my life, get ready to start hearing exactly how I feel. I will always unconditionally love you, but I definitely do not like who you are right now. I don't like what you've become. I don't approve of it. You can say things like, I'm just, I don't know.

4600.305 - 4606.97 Nick Viall

I don't know how direct you want to be, but you have to, you know, without name calling and trying to hurt her, you have to start being honest with her.

Chapter 3: What challenges is Hannah facing regarding her sister's affair?

5062.049 - 5080.118 Nick Viall

Thank you. Thank you.

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5095.316 - 5126.036 Hannah

Thank you.

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5150.058 - 5160.659 Nick Viall

Thank you. Thank you.

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5181.775 - 5203.278 Hannah

Thank you. Thank you.

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5232.182 - 5232.422 Nick Viall

Thank you.

5260.009 - 5260.289 Hannah

Thank you.

5282.868 - 5496.964 Nick Viall

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you.

5523.268 - 5542.177 Hannah

Thank you. Thank you.

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Chapter 4: How can Hannah support her sister while maintaining her own boundaries?

6109.814 - 6127.604 Nick Viall

Well, maybe thank your boyfriend for saying some of the same things I've probably said. And like, you're just willing to listen to me because I'm some third party who's not invested. So like maybe give him some acknowledgement and like maybe a little bit of like, hey, I'm sorry. Yeah, because you have obviously alienated yourself and your relationship in the sake of being there for your sister.

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6128.084 - 6128.384 Hannah

Correct.

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6129.024 - 6130.005 Nick Viall

So, all right.

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6130.505 - 6132.665 Hannah

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much.

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6132.865 - 6150.211 Nick Viall

My pleasure. I'm sorry you're going through this. It obviously sucks. But you have a lot of control that you don't feel like you have. And I think that needs to be your lasting takeaway of this. And so stop being a victim in this situation. It's a shitty situation. I understand that. You wish you could fix it on your own. You can't.

6150.911 - 6156.052 Nick Viall

But you still have a lot of control in a situation that you've honestly probably made more worse than better.

6156.673 - 6160.465 Hannah

I think you might be right. All right. Well, thanks, Nick.

6160.825 - 6162.826 Nick Viall

All right. Take care. Truly. All right.

6163.186 - 6163.446 Hannah

All right.

Chapter 5: What lessons can be learned from the dynamics of these relationships?

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6408.682 - 6409.222 Nick Viall

How's it going?

6409.795 - 6420.434 Carly

Hi, my name's Carly. I'm 26 years old and I wanted to know if the D1 quarterback athlete I was talking to was manipulating me or am I just being dramatic?

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