The Viall Files
E858 - The Ultimatum w/ Aria, James Kennedy’s Pathetic Response, Aaron Rodgers Shades The Bachelor & RHOBH
Thu, 19 Dec 2024
Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap! The Ultimatum reunion has taken place, and we welcome Aria for a deep dive! Is she still with Scotty, we ask? The answer is unclear! Meanwhile, we get into Natalie’s beef with Uber Eats, Sophia Colpa and Alix Earl drama during Vibes vs Stats, Aaron Rodgers throwing strays at the Bachelorette, James Kennedy’s pathetic excuse of an Instagram “apology,” RHOBH, and more! “Scotty, if you’re listening…” OUT NOW! Listen to Humble Brag with Cynthia Bailey and Crystal Kung Minkoff. Available wherever you get your podcasts and YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@humblebragpod https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/humble-brag-with-crystal-and-cynthia/id1774286896 Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/ Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to [email protected] to be a part of our Monday episodes. Follow us on X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheViallFiles Listen To Disrespectfully now! Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disrespectfully/id1516710301 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0J6DW1KeDX6SpoVEuQpl7z?si=c35995a56b8d4038 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCh8MqSsiGkfJcWhkan0D0w To Order Nick’s Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com If you would like to get some texting advice on Office Hours send an email to [email protected] with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on the show, contact [email protected] or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TheViallFiles THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Huggies - Learn more at https://www.huggies.com Wonderful Pistachios - Visit https://www.WonderfulPistachios.com to learn more SkyLight Frames - Get $20 off your purchase of a Skylight Frame when you go to https://SkylightFrame.com/FILES Sundays For Dogs - Get 40% off your first order of Sundays. Go to https://sundaysfordogs.com/VIALL or use code VIALL at checkout. FirstLeaf - Go to https://TryFirstleaf.com/VIALL to sign up and you’ll get your first SIX handpicked bottles for just $44.95. goodr - Goodr is offering Viall Files listeners $5 OFF your first order! Just go to https://goodr.com/VIALL Timestamps: (00:00) - Intro (07:49) - James Kennedy (15:40) - Household Headlines (32:18) - Vibes VS Stats(39:31) - Christmas Plans(43:18) - The Ultimatum (51:17) - Aria Interview (01:28:58) - More Ultimatum (01:42:48) - RHOBH (01:53:49) - Outro Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @nnataliejjoy @aria_dewestbrooks @ciaracrobinson @justinkaphillips @leahgsilberstein @the_mare_bare @dereklanerussell
Chapter 1: What happened at The Ultimatum reunion?
And it was so sweet and so cute and she loved it.
Rob Minkoff really had an impression on you.
Ich habe ihn vertraut. Ich habe ihn vertraut. Ich habe ihn vertraut. Damn. So yeah, that was my night last night.
I'm so sorry you had to deal with all that.
It's okay. And I am almost out of ranch, which, don't even give me certain facts, I did ask them for ranch, they put no ranch in the bed, and then I only had a couple squirts.
And then I came home, Nellie didn't hear me, walked into the bedroom, and she thought I was there to kill her.
Y'all know I have intruder syndrome. You thought he was the killer. And the night before, I woke up in the middle of the night because I was like, are our windows locked? Like in River and the Gaspit. And I had to get up and I had to make sure everything was locked. Then Nick had left my car unlocked, which that triggers a whole new anxiety. So then I had to like read my book to fall back asleep.
So then last night, I don't hear, we have like the passcode on our door, you know? And I don't hear that. I just hear Nick's little... Bootheels, klicken through the thing with a flashlight. What's a flashlight? I don't want to wake up my baby.
So he had his own flashlight on.
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Chapter 2: Why is James Kennedy's Instagram apology controversial?
So it's like to him, for him to like plea to me and tell me like, you know, I can do this, I can be this for you. It just seems like very, just like, it doesn't seem genuine for me. And I don't need time.
Yeah, it's tough for someone like him in that situation because I believe that he believes it. You know what I'm saying? I believe that he believes that he's willing and capable of making whatever changes. He needs to make. And I believe that he is embarrassed by what he's seen. But like you said, he would only be doing it for you. And he can't do it for you. He has to do it for himself.
And the type of change that he really needs to invoke does take time. He really needs to sit in it. He really needs to be comfortable with not wanting to... act the way he does and things like that. And the problem with someone like Scotty in this situation, I almost feel bad for him because in his mind, his willingness to acknowledge his fault, it's insincere in the fact that
If he can identify a problem, then he can fix the problem. And his willingness to identify the problem is, to me, comes across as centered around the fact that he wants to get his way. And what he wants is to be with you. And so he's willing to see the problem because he knows he can fix the problem. If he
Ich glaube, wenn wir etwas für jemanden ändern wollen, überzeugen wir uns, dass es intern ist. Aber am Ende des Tages wollen wir, was wir wollen. Und was er will, ist du.
Ja, ich, ja, ich meine, all I can do is like hope that like he wants to work on himself just to work on himself because of how maybe like watching yourself back being like, man, I just, I could have dealt with that way differently. Like even for me, like watching back how I was speaking to Mariah at Girls Night.
I feel like I was really just trying to like tell her like, girl, you know, there's been instances already in the past where you're like, you know, in a way badgering your partner and he feels exhausted. And then she was doing it in the experience. And so I was trying to like tell like nudge her and tell her that without busting her out like I did in the reunion.
um and so i was trying to do that and so it's like my delivery could have been better and so watching myself back i was like oh like i apologized to mariah and i talked to her about it and so i feel like for him it's the accountability thing and you can't teach somebody that they just need to want to do that and so i really just hope that he does his healing you know and works on the things that he needs to work on but like i mean
I'm only going to put good energy out there that he does that, but I'm not going to hold my breath again for anything to change because we've been together for as long as we've been together and it didn't change. So I just, I don't know.
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Chapter 8: How does the team feel about the future of reality TV?
Ich habe es nicht geöffnet, aber ich war so, ah, Fake.
Zack hatte eine Antwort darauf.
Das könnte ziemlich dunkel werden. Ich meine, denk dran, Van der Pump wurde gecancelt, Van der Pump war Tom Sandovals ganze Leben lang. You know, James, he had a DJ thing going. Hopefully not anymore. George is getting work. But like, it's getting pretty dark. You know, like, what is Tom Sandoval going to do? You know, get a job. But that's what I'm saying.
He's not going to. These people act like they are above getting a fucking job. Like, you don't have to be on TV. You don't. Like, go work at the mall. It's not going to happen. Go work at Auntie Anne's. Literally.
That's what I'm saying. This is about to get dark. He can't get a job there, though.
But the balance, where there's darkness, there's light, because this is all good stuff for Kristen. Kristen announces that she's pregnant on the same day that Shorts and Sandys is closed. VPR is cancelled. She's pregnant and she has a job on the Valley. So Kristen's having a great 2025 and that's all I care about.
Whitney Rose shuts down divorce rumors with her husband Justin. I didn't know there were rumors.
Yeah, as a fellow Justin, how do you feel, Justin?
I love Whitney and Justin. Yeah, me too. No, but these are rumors that have been circulating for like a month on like bigger quote-unquote Bravo blogs, basically alleging that they've been sleeping apart since last year and going through the motions in public. How would the blogs know about that? Yeah. I mean, housewives speak through blogs.
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