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Something Was Wrong

S22 E7: Scam the Scammer

Thu, 05 Dec 2024

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*Content Warning: fraud, scams, disability abuse, false reporting, harassment, financial abuse, suicidal ideation. Sources: MyCase Indiana: https://public.courts.in.gov/Elwood woman faces multiple felonies in connection with ongoing rental scheme, by Logan Gay, WTHR.com staff, WTHR News: https://www.wthr.com/article/news/crime/elwood-woman-arrested-for-ongoing-rental-scheme-megan-stoner-fishers-indiana/531-2d3b11fa-5c70-4f05-8ea4-0be0c37cf852 Fishers woman charged in rental fraud; 3 scammed in signing lease for same Home by: Izzy Karpinski, Fox59: https://fox59.com/news/indycrime/fishers-woman-charged-in-rental-fraud-3-scammed-in-signing-lease-for-same-home/ Hamilton County Inmate Records - Stoner, Megan Elizabeth: https://secure2.hamiltoncounty.in.gov/inmates2/Jail/Inmate/Detail/-1282383 Protect the community from ongoing criminal activity by revoking the bond of Megan Stoner, Change.Org Petition: https://www.change.org/p/protect-the-community-from-ongoing-criminal-activity-by-revoking-the-bond-of-megan-stoner Justin Sexton on X: @JustinSextonIN https://x.com/JustinSextonIN Megan Stoner Chronicles, X @ChroniclesMegan: https://x.com/ChroniclesMegan Chloe Anagnos on X: @ChloeAnagnos https://x.com/ChloeAnagnos/status/1651260809362784261 Don't Waste This F*cking Podcast: The Story of Megan Stoner, by Amanda Peterson, Excelsior Studios: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dont-waste-this-f-cking-podcast-the-story-of-megan-stoner/id1757463535 Noblesville Chatter Community Based Discussion Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1995427104120331/ Resources:Free + Confidential Resources + Safety Tips: somethingwaswrong.com/resources   Theme Song & Artwork: Thank you to NeonHoney and GIBBANEZ for covering our theme song, Glad Rags’s original song U Think U this season. NeonHoney’s IG: https://www.instagram.com/neonhoneymusic/ NeonHoney’s Website: https://neonhoneymusic.comGibbanez IG: https://www.instagram.com/@gibbanezmusic/ Gibbanez Linktree: https://linktr.ee/gibbanezmusicGlad Rags: https://www.gladragsmusic.com/ The S22 cover art is by the Amazing Sara StewartFollow Something Was Wrong:Website: somethingwaswrong.com IG: instagram.com/somethingwaswrongpodcastTikTok: tiktok.com/@somethingwaswrongpodcast Follow Tiffany Reese:Website: tiffanyreese.me IG: instagram.com/lookieboo 

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Chapter 1: What are the allegations against Megan Stoner?

157.768 - 178.285 Tiffany Reese

Stoner had told him that she was in jail at times she wasn't in jail, and that her being in jail was due to a civil case against her by a moving company, which was also inaccurate. After months of Stoner giving Tom the runaround about paying him back, he began digging around more online and asking questions about Stoner's self-proclaimed haters.

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179.106 - 188.997 Tiffany Reese

Eventually, a member of the Megan Stoner scam awareness Facebook group, Mike Neal, connected with Tom and filled him in on what the group had gathered about Megan Stoner's alleged crimes.

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189.838 - 201.103 Tiffany Reese

Tom was in shock when he learned this news, but even more than that, he was heartbroken to learn that he had been taken advantage of by someone whom he considered to be a friend and someone he admired in politics.

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Chapter 2: Who are the victims of the scams?

201.883 - 222.324 Tiffany Reese

When the Facebook scam awareness group learned about Tom and that Stoner had continued on her merry little scammy way, they were determined more than ever to bring Megan Stoner to justice. Fast forward to summer of 2023, and Stoner was due to return to court to face her pending charges. Here's Alyssa.

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223.055 - 237.58 Alyssa

she had a warrant for the OWI case. And around that time, she had her court date coming up for the felony charges out of Hamilton County, the rental scams. And she didn't want to go to that felony court date because she knew she had a warrant.

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237.881 - 258.811 Alyssa

I think she thought, well, if I show up to this court date, they're going to arrest me because I have pending charges there that she also did not show up to court for. So that's when she didn't show up to court in Hamilton County and they put out a warrant for her arrest there also. She was on the run. So she wasn't at home. She was staying in and out of Airbnbs, changing them up every night.

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259.652 - 283.349 Alyssa

It really seems crazy now, but at the time I was just like, this girl has done so much wrong. It's time for someone to bring justice to this situation and the people that she's hurt. But in between that time, when the warrant came out for the OWI and she hadn't yet had a warrant for the felony charges is when I started texting her. The goal was maybe I can get her to come meet me somewhere.

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283.369 - 302.9 Alyssa

I think we all thought it was kind of far-fetched. We'll see where it goes from here, but I'll try anyway. So I started texting her and she starts divulging all of this information to me about Tom. She's like, can you please message my friend Tom? He's not listening to me. I did some bad things, but I'm trying to pay him back. I want to pay him back the money I owe him.

302.94 - 320.233 Alyssa

Because I think at this point, he was really understanding the gravity of what she had done to him and how much money she had taken from him under false pretenses. I reached out to somebody else in the group that was an admin and I was like, hey, I've been talking to Megan and I really think... Someone needs to get a hold of this person.

Chapter 3: What actions were taken by the community against Stoner?

320.674 - 342.334 Alyssa

So that's when I found out that like Tom had been talking to someone in the group already and that he had begun grasping the fact that she had scammed him really bad. I think he was probably her most prolific victim out of the pool of people that she had scammed. I had reached out to him and I was talking to him and he started to share some of the things that she had done.

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342.374 - 359.999 Alyssa

And at that point, it was always kind of like a joke to me. Maybe she'll come and meet me. Maybe she won't. But then when I realized like what she had done, that's when I like hit it into high gear. And I was like, you know what? No, no one deserves to be treated like this. No one deserves to put trust in someone and then have someone completely ruin that trust.

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360.219 - 379.131 Alyssa

And that's what she had done with him. And it was scary. And so at that point, I started texting her. And shortly after that is when she met me for the first time. And I actually saw her in person. So I got her number from someone in the group. And I just said like, hey, I think I said my name was Valerie. I'm a reporter for such and such. I think I even like Googled the place, the company.

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379.731 - 399.601 Alyssa

I minded my P's and Q's there. I was very straightforward. Like this is who I work for. This is what I want to do. I want to buy the life rights to your story. I think you have a really crazy story to tell. I think your voice should be heard. So I really tried to play to that Megan Stoner diabolical mind. She was like, oh, this is great. Someone wants to like tell a story all about me.

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400.546 - 418.958 Alyssa

We talked for a couple days and a few times she had said, can you reach out to my friend Tom? He's not listening. I think she was terrified that he was going to go and file charges against her at the time. And I was like, I don't think it's appropriate for me to reach out to one of your victims. She was like, okay, can you send me $20 for food tonight? And I'm like, I suppose I can do that.

Chapter 4: How did Alyssa gather information about Stoner?

418.998 - 437.368 Alyssa

And so when she provided me her cash app, it was not her cash app. It was someone else's. And at that time, it was kind of like she's starting to take the bait, like she wants money from me. And so what I had done, I was like, why don't you let me give you some money so that you can get your Airbnb or whatever? And she's like, well, you know, I have a warrant, so I'm not meeting anyone.

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437.448 - 457.571 Alyssa

She was pretty adamant about that. But the next day she called me on the phone and I recorded it. And she was like, my mom gave my dog away. Her dog Coco was all over her Twitter. Like this dog was her bestie and her mom had given her dog away. And so she called me, she's like, my mom hates me. She told me she doesn't want to see me again.

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457.611 - 466.278 Alyssa

As not great as it was on my part, I was like, you know what, let's play into this. And I'm like, I can't believe your mom would do that. I tried to get a little closer with her.

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467.56 - 483.883 Tiffany Reese

It's important to note when listening to most of the calls we're including this season with Megan, to keep in mind that the goal of the person speaking to Megan, I guess 90% of the time, was to gather more evidence by getting her to accidentally slip up and share important information.

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483.903 - 503.61 Tiffany Reese

And this is certainly the approach Alyssa took to try and get info from Stoner by claiming to be a journalist and by offering a sympathetic ear in order to get more information. The goal was to scam the scammer into telling on themselves. And thankfully for all of us, she almost always takes the bait.

504.55 - 510.614 Tiffany Reese

The following call took place a few days before Stoner was due to report back to court for her pending charges.

510.634 - 518.138 Alyssa

Okay, so, and then what about everything else? Like, you have to pay the lawyers for everything else then too, right?

519.688 - 525.29 Megan Stoner

Yeah, I mean, I don't really care about anything else other than the one case right now. Or the Hamilton County case.

525.47 - 534.633 Alyssa

I feel like that's the big one. You know what I mean? The other ones are kind of small. They're not a huge deal. Right. Stuff that can get thrown out really easily. But the Hamilton County case is kind of a big one.

Chapter 5: What is the current legal situation for Megan Stoner?

552.872 - 553.232 Megan Stoner

Yeah.

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555.953 - 556.193 Alyssa

Fuck.

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558.314 - 567.497 Megan Stoner

Well, I talked to my attorney. That was Tuesday. And then he said on Thursday that he was still waiting to hear back.

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568.238 - 571.519 Alyssa

So you don't know for sure that they're going to offer that? Or is that what your lawyer asked for?

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571.539 - 579.122 Megan Stoner

No, they've offered that. My attorney went back and asked them, like, if I could just do, like, 30 years on house arrest.

579.542 - 580.142 Alyssa

Holy shit.

581.149 - 582.85 Megan Stoner

I would be willing to avoid jail.

583.311 - 592.398 Alyssa

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, at least when you're on house arrest, you can work. Yeah. You can go out places. You're not really just confined to your house like a lot of people think.

592.438 - 596.782 Megan Stoner

Yeah. My dad was on house arrest and got through it. I mean, it's not that terrible. It's better than jail.

Chapter 6: What plea deals are being discussed?

750.488 - 752.149 Alyssa

So are you going to go to court on Thursday?

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753.23 - 769.662 Megan Stoner

Yeah, of course. We're working out something on Tuesday for Elwood. We're going to pay the warrant... At the bench, so it's not going to be squashed, but we're going to pay the bail there. Yeah, right, and then I'll just let you go. Yeah, that's hopefully the plan.

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770.983 - 780.531 Alyssa

And then Thursday you have court in Hamilton County, which is a big one, obviously. Yeah. Is that the only court cases you have this week, just Tuesday and Thursday?

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780.551 - 781.632 Megan Stoner

Yeah.

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782.512 - 785.39 Alyssa

Just Tuesday and Thursday, like it's no big deal, sorry. Right?

785.41 - 793.094 Megan Stoner

I mean, this is my life for weeks now. And I'm just, and I'm tired of hiding in seclusion. That's the other thing. Like, I'm so tired of this.

793.795 - 801.839 Alyssa

That's the part I think I would have the hardest time with is just being alone. Like, you can't tell anybody where you are. You can't have anybody come visit you because you don't know what's going to happen.

Chapter 7: How does Megan's personal life affect her legal troubles?

801.859 - 814.754 Megan Stoner

Yeah, you just have to be by yourself. And I guess this is where you really want your mental ability to test of how strong can I stay? Yeah.

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816.295 - 832.347 Alyssa

Well, I will say, I'll give you credit, like, you're still here. You know? Yeah, well, I don't know how. Well, you've pushed through. I know it's not been easy, and I know you haven't been in the best mental state, and that's had to have been so hard, but, like, you're here.

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832.367 - 841.654 Megan Stoner

And, I mean, I guess you've been in the group. I mean, what are your thoughts? Like, how do I get this stopped? Because my attorney wants to do a press conference, and I don't know if that's a good idea.

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841.674 - 864.598 Alyssa

He wants to what? One of my attorneys thought about being a press conference. Oh, a press conference for you. The group's not going to stop. They will not stop. There are like 1,500 people in that group. They will not stop. They'll make another one. You know, if one gets taken down, they'll make another. It will not stop. They're all fucking crazy.

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865.538 - 882.1 Alyssa

At this point, they're not going to stop until I assume you're in jail or like you said, on house arrest. Maybe then it will subside if they have nothing to talk about. And girl, if you stop tweeting, they wouldn't have anything to talk about either.

883.341 - 884.801 Megan Stoner

I know. I'm trying to stop.

886.122 - 901.646 Alyssa

I think that doesn't help your case. Like, they have something. Every time you tweet, they have something to talk about. It's posted in the group. I feel like they just are watching your every move and you just keep giving them ammo to do so. Okay. That's my best advice to you is don't give them so much ammo.

901.666 - 903.947 Tom

Okay.

905.461 - 912.065 Alyssa

I hope that this plea deal works out for you and that you don't have to go sit in a jail cell. You know, that's going to be really rough.

Chapter 8: What steps are being taken to stop the scams?

1027.31 - 1030.93 Alyssa

Ay-yi-yi. That's, like, really soon. That's, like, four days.

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1030.97 - 1032.711 Megan Stoner

That's, like... I know.

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1038.012 - 1039.032 Alyssa

Fuck, that's early. Okay.

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1041.018 - 1068.716 Megan Stoner

I have like four court dates Thursday. What? I've got that one in the morning for the mechanic that I'm suing, which has nothing to do with any of this, 8.30. And then I have bail revocation hearing at 10.30, plea trial negotiations at 10.30, and then at 1.15, I guess they're amending my charges. What does that mean? I have no idea. I've not got any info on that at all.

1069.653 - 1071.134 Alyssa

So the lawyers don't even know what that means.

1072.134 - 1079.317 Megan Stoner

Brent has not told me. He might have told me, but I've been in a flurry of emotion, so I wouldn't know. Yeah.

1079.757 - 1082.718 Alyssa

I don't know if that means less or more.

1084.579 - 1096.284 Megan Stoner

Bob said it usually means more. Usually, but I don't know at this point. No one knows anything. It feels like a hodgepodge problem.

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