The Viall Files
E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Tue, 18 Mar 2025
Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap! It’s a banger episode this Tuesday as we’re joined by our favorite Humble Braggers Crystal and Cynthia to get into RHOA drama, the Chanel Ayan interview, Cynthia always catching smoke, and more! Also, country superstar Dasha stops by to talk about Stagecoach, touring with Kane Brown, and first-world problems. Meanwhile, we get into the recent Bachelor producer drama and Fantasy Suites, Temptation Island, Southern Charm, Summer House, and more! Make sure to tune in… “I purposely stir the pot a bit…” Subscribe to The ENVY Media Newsletter Today: https://www.viallfiles.com/newsletter OUT NOW! Listen to Humble Brag with Cynthia Bailey and Crystal Kung Minkoff. Available wherever you get your podcasts and YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@humblebragpod https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/humble-brag-with-crystal-and-cynthia/id1774286896 Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/ Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to [email protected] to be a part of our Monday episodes. Follow us on X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheViallFiles Listen To Disrespectfully now! Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disrespectfully/id1516710301 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0J6DW1KeDX6SpoVEuQpl7z?si=c35995a56b8d4038 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCh8MqSsiGkfJcWhkan0D0w To Order Nick’s Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com If you would like to get some texting advice on Office Hours send an email to [email protected] with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on this podcast please email: [email protected] or go to: https://advertising.libsyn.com/theviallfiles THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Fox Entertainment - Don’t miss the all-new season of Farmer Wants a Wife Thursday on FOX 3 Day Blinds - Right now get quality window treatments that fit your budget with 3 Day Blinds. Head to https://3dayblinds.com/viall for their buy one get one 50% off deal on custom blinds, shades, shutters, and drapery. Firstleaf - love. Go to https://tryfirstleaf.com/viall to sign up and you’ll get your first SIX handpicked bottles for just $44.95. Branch Basics - Make this year the year you say goodbye to toxic products! Right now, our listeners get 15% off their Premium Starter Kit by using code VIALL at https://branchbasics.com Chewy - Chewy has everything you need to keep your pet happy and healthy. And right now you can save $20 on your first order and get free shipping by going to https://chewy.com/viall Factor - Eat smart with Factor. Get started at https://factormeals.com/factorpodcast and use code FACTORPODCAST to get 50% off your first box plus free shipping. Timestamps: (00:00) - Intro (00:53) - Bachelor (27:33) - Cynthia and Crystal Join (46:13) - RHOA (56:40) - Fake Quiting and More (01:05:04) - Post-Interview Chat (01:08:51) - Dasha Joins (01:11:43) - Roommates (01:13:12) - Tour and Austin (01:24:47) - Lipstick Incident (01:28:59) - Love Life (01:32:08) - White Lotus (01:36:53) - Love Island (01:39:20) - Temptation Island (01:44:38) - Being Serenaded and Name Origin (01:48:55) - Southern Charm (02:00:23) - Summer House (02:16:15) - Outro Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @nnataliejjoy @crystalkungminkoff @cynthiabailey @dashamusic @ciaracrobinson @justinkaphillips @the_mare_bare @leahgsilberstein @dereklanerussell
Chapter 1: What's happening in the Bachelor franchise?
Don't miss the all-new season of Farmer Wants a Wife Thursday on Fox. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap Edition. I am your host, Nick, and everyone is fired at The Bachelor. I don't even know who's running that show anymore.
Nobody.
Nobody. We got after the final rose next week, and I don't know who's in charge.
We don't even know if it's going to air.
Yeah, Grant's in charge. Amongst the most recent, what, Deadline did an article a couple weeks ago talking about the toxic workplace environment over at the, I don't even know what you call it, because Warner Brothers produces the show, but Warner Brothers, it's produced by Next Media, which was the company I think originally owned or started by Mike Fleiss, I think.
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Chapter 2: Why is there drama with Bachelor producers?
And that's where all the production team like works out of. But it's also like kind of run by Warner Brothers. I don't know. I don't totally, totally get it. Anyways. Yeah. So the showrunners Claire and Bennett are no longer with the show.
Do we think they left on their own accord?
I think they got fired.
You think they got fired?
Yeah. I don't think they were like, oh, there's some rumors going on about us. You know what? Let's, for the good of this show, let's- Let's step away. Let's step away. I think, you know, it's been fascinating as someone, I, like, Bennett was kind of like the last, I know, I think, to my knowledge, I know two people who still are working.
Well, no longer Bennett.
Yeah, I know. I'm including Bennett in that, but I don't know.
You said, I- I still know two people. Oh. Who's the other person?
Oh.
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Chapter 3: What are the latest updates from RHOA?
Would you guys want to know after the fact?
When did he tell her?
Zach had told Katie when the season was still going on. And she's saying that she would have rather... He's like, I had sex with so-and-so? Yeah.
Did we know that he did? Or was she being vague? It was like, yeah, Zach told me. I wish he would have waited because he told me they cuddled. So did Katie admit to having... Did she call out Zach or something?
She said that that was something that bothered her that Zach told her about like what was going on or that he had been intimate with someone else. And then she suggested to Latia that like, you don't want to know. And Latia was like, yeah, you're right. I don't want to know. And then she said to Grant, like, I don't want to know what you've done with other women.
And I'm like, I would want to know. I don't think I would.
No? No. That would just put me in my head. You would rather wait until after? Yeah.
Is it going to change your decision tree? Is it going to change your mind? Yeah. Like how you make a decision. Is that anyone?
Decision tree.
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Chapter 4: How did Cynthia and Crystal address Chanel Ayan's drama?
Chapter 5: What happened on Cynthia's luxury yacht getaway?
so like and i've heard from previous producers that they always thought bear that claire and bennett there uh were very scripted very staged very much they kind of decided like the beats of the show and kind of just kind of told leads exactly what to do and say and didn't really give them much wiggle room i heard that don't know if there'd be pushback from claire and bennett on that opinion but that is what i heard but if that's true i give grant a lot of grace
I think Grant's been a great Bachelor, to be honest. I've really enjoyed watching him. I think he's very personable with all the ladies. And I haven't had one moment where I'm like, fuck this guy. And usually there's one moment in a Bachelor season where I'm like, fuck this guy.
But if he's saying I love you to Letia... And what if, what if Latia, like what the runner up, what if the runner up they've positioned this whole season is like, he doesn't know morning of, he doesn't know. They make it seem like not even make it seem they have Jesse Palmer come out in this preview and act as if like they are about to bring the two. It's proposal. It's ready to go.
It's proposal time, whatever time of the day they have the proposal set. It is time. And he still doesn't know. Yeah. And he needs to let Jesse know of all people. And there's no way that's true. There is no way that's true. Just knowing how the show is done, there is no way they woke up that morning and they were like, who are you going to pick? And Grant was like, I have no idea.
But Jesse Palmer was like, I need to bring Jesse Palmer.
And if they really didn't know, if Grant really didn't know the last person they would bring in is Jesse Palmer, because like, what is, and again, love Jesse greatest job for what they asked the bachelor host to do, but it's very different than what they asked the temptation Island host to do in terms of like actually giving advice.
I've never seen Jesse do anything other than pat them on the back and go, all right, well, good luck. Um, So for Grant to say that he knew on this show, that means that Claire and Bennett basically forced Grant into pretending that morning he didn't know, which means that they might have forced Grant into saying a lot of shit to their runner up that he didn't believe or was true.
And it will be very curious how Grant handles that. And it'll be I'll be curious to see if the you know, if I'm if I'm the runner up, I don't give a fuck. I wouldn't offer a grant any grace. I mean, despite me offering him grace because I'm not personally involved on the runner up, I'd be like, fuck that guy.
Fuck yourself. Okay. Sounds toxic. Guess we'll see.
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Chapter 6: What are the details of the Dorit and Hairstylist controversy?
I don't know.
Like White Lotus? I haven't seen White Lotus yet, but everyone kept referencing we were all White Lotus somehow. And, like, we'd walk in, like, I'm like, oh, is someone, like, doesn't someone get murdered or something? I'm sure. But, no, it's not like that. And, by the way, not all the guests are, like,
super wealthy it's a wide range so but all of us who's the poorest person yeah like I'm closer to being the poorest but like no that's not true but it's like the discrepancy from her to us is so extreme so no matter how much you have You're still every second is exciting because you walk on and the girls are insane. They're so gorgeous and beautiful.
And they always have a different water, like a different flavored, you know, seltzer water that they made for you and a cold towel. And you're like, oh, this is like fancy. And then if you go to the dock, you're like, oh, I want to jump in the water. There's always someone there ready to put on like, you know, like a sleeve for you. I think I'm getting angry. And they like it. It's crazy.
Every day there's baskets of like sunscreen for me, like just like a brand new sunscreen is like, well, I don't know. And it's a basket of 30. I officially hate my life right now.
But continue.
And the chef cooks breakfast, lunch and dinner. And it's just like I just kept saying, like, I would be such a great billionaire. I'd be such a.
generous billionaire you would I would be giving out cars I would be I would crush and like all my friends would be on this boat full time and I got home at one last night and I'm it's a rough transition but I'm so this is the best one the best transition speaking of good guests uh what what happened with uh Chanel
Oh, okay. So you're not going to give me a little wellness check and see how my week went? I just get all the smoke. This is your wellness check, Cynthia. Yeah, it's your trip on the boat, Crystal, on the yacht. And then Cynthia, yeah. So what was the smoke with you and Chanel?
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Chapter 7: How does Cynthia Bailey navigate Housewives drama?
And you look. Thank you.
And yeah, she's really good. But everyone is not good at doing their makeup. So they have to depend on glam. And if you can afford it and if you want your glam to come and do you every time you walk out the door.
Can she afford it?
Let your glam do you every time you walk out the door. I'm not mad at it.
I'm not going to do it. Like, I'll do my own when I can.
What's that? Yeah. But even that, no one's getting glam on the boat. Like, I don't know why you spend that kind of money.
It's absurd. Yeah, but you don't have paparazzi on the boat like you guys were like.
Girl, I go to a Dodger, a Laker game, a Rams game every week. I'm not getting glam for it. That's insane. But you're not like a glam girl, though.
Who spends that kind of money? You're not like that. You'll put a little bit on, but makeup is not your thing. And actually, I don't think Dorit does. I don't think she wears a lot of makeup.
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Chapter 8: What is the impact of fake quitting on Real Housewives?
Okay, well that's a whole, yeah, that's a whole nother situation. I just wanted like, sometimes people just want to blast celebrities. Like celebrities are like.
I keep DMing Doreen to come on the show and she keeps reading it and she keeps not responding.
Shut up. Is that true? No. Wait, what? Aren't you blocked? Oh, no, it's Jeff. Jeff is blocked.
Jeff's blocked? I'm not blocked. Jeff's blocked. I'm not blocked.
Nick has even been openly about how much he's attracted to her. Oh, wow. That would bring me in.
Someone said they were attracted.
I'm like, okay. I promise you a good time. It is a good time. I mean, the podcast.
It's a good time here. It's a good time.
Like a safe, good time. It's a safe space. I love that. It's a safe space. I promise her a safe space.
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