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Natalie Joy

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The Viall Files

E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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Speaking of crazy sex stories, should we talk about White Lotus?

The Viall Files

E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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Whose situation would you want to be in the least from, like, everybody on this show? Definitely not interested in jerking off my brother. Yeah, definitely not interested. Like, you wake up on a Monday morning and you're one of these people. Like, what's the biggest nightmare here? Like, going to prison. The dad, yeah. Like, wanting to kill yourself.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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And they will have houses by then. Hopefully we'll have solved the problem.

The Viall Files

E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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I've been really good. I've been really excited since the show aired, and now I can finally talk about my experience.

The Viall Files

E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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Yeah, so I'll start like right at the end of the show. I was fully aware that he probably wasn't going to ask me to leave in the bonfire with him. We had had some conversations that they cut out where we talked about him being a little bit too messy and he needed to like figure out his own relationship with himself and Ashley and everything off of the island.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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And he had stuff moved in in her place. And I was like, I think it's better if we're going to pursue this after, you know, that we pursue it after and that you kind of leave alone to work on yourself. I was more thinking there was like a 10% chance, even though we had those conversations, he would still ask to leave with me.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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But so I was ready and we did have like a full conversation after that final bonfire that they completely cut out as well, which I was sad about because I felt like I looked really good that day. But and then after that, we left the island. Well, we finished filming and then me, Kay, Tyler and Grant, we all stayed on the island for like four more days immediately after filming.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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So even though we didn't leave the island together, we immediately went to the hotel together and spent four days.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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Yeah. And it was actually so much fun. We had the best time because we were all like, we have our phones back now. We're back in real life. This is super weird. And so it was nice to kind of like all be together and do that.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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Ooh, good question. I think that like watching it back, it was definitely interesting to see like the way he was crying at the bonfire and probably knowing and feeling the energy from Ashley that she wasn't going to choose to leave with him. And that even though he went first, she was probably going to leave with Danny. So I'm sure it played a big role. You know, I think that Grant...

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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really wanted both ashley and i and obviously clearly he was playing both sides like the entire time and even like off the island that sounds like grand yeah yeah definitely when i said like oh messy you know like hindsight's 2020 i look back and i'm like damn Messier than I kind of originally thought, but I knew going into it that it was kind of problematic.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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Yeah. Like right now. I was a little disappointed that nobody asked Juliana how she felt about Latia's exit. Oh, that's a good, yeah.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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But I think that it definitely played a big part because he knew that she was with Danny. And so he also probably wanted, you know, something for himself. And like, we did get really close on the island. So regardless of like how things would have been off the island, I guess in real life, we spent four weeks literally just getting to know each other. So we did build like a strong connection.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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home to Oregon to go stay with my family and see them. And so Grant and I had been in contact since we got our phones back or like separated. And then he called me when I was home in Oregon and was like, so I have this trip in Maryland. It's a work trip. Everything will be paid for, you know, just come out and I want to see you outside the island.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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And at first I was kind of like, I don't know, you know, like it's very soon. He had moved out of Ashley's that week, which they didn't live together full time, at least not. From my perspective, who knows?

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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This is what I was told. So he, and he told me that he went to go like move out of her apartment and they hardly talked to each other. And it was really just like tense.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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And then he got all of his stuff out and I was like, okay, you know, now that that's done with, I guess maybe I will consider seeing you in Maryland, which I don't think that's how it actually happened when he went to go move out of our apartment. Yeah. But again, I wasn't there, so I don't totally know, but I was with my family and I was like, should I just do it?

The Viall Files

E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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You know, I'm a full sender, like, especially with a free trip, like twist my arm. That's totally up my alley. And so I was like, okay, I'll just do it. So I went to Maryland and we honestly had like the best trip with the best time. He was kind of filming for some of it. It was beautiful weather, sat by the pool, drank margaritas.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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he was filming at this like wealth summit place. Cause he's a videographer photographer. So that's why he was there filming that.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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Yes. No, this is like a completely different job that he did. So, and then we had the best time, which I was kind of, Not like surprised, but I wasn't expecting us to like really hit it off outside the island. But we did on this trip in particular.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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But I kind of think that like when you get really close with someone and then they know all the things that you're looking for in a partner and they want to like pursue you and make it work. I think that that was more so what was happening than us like just actually hitting it off in real life.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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I think he was trying to be genuine to the best of his ability. And I think that like he did want to be those things for me. But I think that he was so wrapped up with Ashley and so wrapped up in his own like issues and stuff that he was having that it was just impossible for him to be those things long term.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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maybe there's some truth in that i just like i think that he does have like a lot of his own stuff that he needed to work through and jumping from ashley to me like with literally like negative time in between there was no way he was going to be able to work on those things even though i think he knows what he needs to work on how long has it been since all of that this was last june do you think he's done the work

The Viall Files

E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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That was like the start of our off island thing. So we said our goodbyes in the airport and then he ended up chasing me down to my gate. It was this whole dramatic grant style thing where I was the last one to board and I was sitting there waiting for him to come. And then he was like, I want to jump into this with you. You know, like we had the best trip. Let's be exclusive.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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And again, like I said, I'm a full sender and I was like, okay, we just had the best trip, you know, let's do it. I'm down. And that lasted like a month. Yeah. It was very short-lived.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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Yeah, I'd say that's accurate. I think that, yeah, you nailed it.

The Viall Files

E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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No, so some people might be surprised to hear, I in fact wasn't, but he ended up cheating on me with Ashley. Okay. About a month in. And he called me right after and told me about it.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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Some people take accountability. People say you can't take accountability, but he did with me. So immediately I, he's the type of person too, which I was not so much. So like, this was one thing that we kind of like didn't align with in real life is he wants to like constantly talk to me. And so he went like a couple hours without texting me. And I was like,

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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something's weird like Grant's always texting me and I called my best friend and I was like I swear he's got to be with Ashley and she was like no like you're crazy you're crazy I was like no I'm telling you like woman's intuition call whatever you want but like I swear he's with Ashley right now and she was like okay and then an hour later Grant called me and I was like were you with Ashley and he was like yeah and I was like okay well did you kiss her and he was like yeah and

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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And then I was like, okay, well, I guess that's all I need to know. Like, I'm never going to talk to you again. I'll see you at the premiere. And our conversation was like five minutes long. And then I hung up.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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Yeah, it was just a kiss, at least from when I've talked about it with Ashley. Yes. Okay, okay. that was like just enough for me in the call where I was like, okay, you disrespected me, cross the line. And him and I had had that conversation before. Cause obviously like, this isn't like shocking news that Grant would cheat on me. It's kind of his character.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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So we had, I had drawn that line like very clear before that if he was to disrespect me in any way with Ashley or with any girl for that matter, I would give him like a minute or two to explain himself and then, and I would never speak to him again. So. Hmm. That's exactly what I did.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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Well, so I had, like, heard about the bonfire clips. But again, like, everything that we heard from what happened in the bonfire clips was from the boys themselves. We didn't actually have, like, contact with the women in the other house until after or anyone, for that matter. And so, like, seeing the bonfire clips for myself and seeing how much less bad they were than the boys' bonfire clips.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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But when the boys came home, they needed, like, maximum support and comforting and... Yeah. The nerve. Was this before or after the shower? What did she do? I don't even remember.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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connecting too heavily in the beginning because it was more so me and leno and then that kind of took a turn i think it was right before the first bonfire grant and i had a deep conversation and then kind of just like started blossoming from there but when he came home from the first bonfire he was like so distraught about what happened that i was like there's no way like that a they're getting back together he was walking around the house like a single man like he wouldn't be able to forgive ashley for what he saw and then again watching it back i don't even remember what happened either

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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So we, we knew that the camera was put up there that day. There wasn't even a camera in there for like until the second week. And so we were fully aware that like the shower scene was probably going to be something that was, I mean, it was a bigger deal. I thought when they aired it, but yeah, we were fully aware.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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My name's Natalie, and if you like it from the front, you're gonna love it from the other side. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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So I actually said that in my final interview and they reminded me that I said that. And they were like, oh, you should, like, I was like, oh yeah, this would be on today. So I did. That's a Natalie original. Hope you guys liked it.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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Well, I wrote that before I watched the last three seconds of the show and she was brought out. I just felt like she wasn't there.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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That really caught me by surprise. He was fully aware that we were on live too and still chose to call her and do that. He joined my live and then was in the comments. And mind you, this is the most interaction that I've had with him in eight months was me reading his comments out loud.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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But I was like, I'm just telling Ashley, because when you're on live with someone, they can't see the comments that are in yours. So I was reading them. And then he kept telling us, add me, add me. And I was like, I'm not adding you to my life. And I didn't even know how, honestly, at that point, it was like my second time ever going live. And then she was like, I'm not adding you.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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And then he ended the live and ended up just calling her and was like, let's go, let's go. Let's talk about it. Be real, be raw. And I was just like so uncomfortable the entire time. Like I was not expecting him to do that. I felt like it was completely uncalled for. And knowing that there's an audience too is just like crazy.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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I feel like I wouldn't have any questions for Ashley. I feel like more so with Grant. How much of him maybe knew that he was going to get back together with Ashley maybe in the future? You know, like...

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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He made it seem very much so like they were never going to really speak again and that he was like, like way done with their relationship and he was dealing with like the end of their relationship that it was like so toxic, but it's like how much of you probably knew that. the entire time that he was going to go back together with her.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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She got the last 45 seconds. They're like, I will bring out Zoe for the next 30 seconds.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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I think that I did trust my instincts right away. And I was fully aware of the fact that he is toxic and like is used to toxic behavior like this. But again, in real life, I think that situation would have played out differently. But because I was on a show via temptress and we were only...

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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halfway through is that I was kind of faced, I guess, with two options where it's like, okay, you know, I told him how I feel. I drew the line, but it's not like in real life where it's like, I'm going to just hop on out of here. It's like, we're living in the same house. You know, we're still going to be going on dates and building a connection.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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And I felt like he reacted well to how I responded with how I felt about the situation and that I didn't like that. And I wasn't going to

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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Yeah, there was nothing to do, to be fair. There was no TV, no phones or anything. But I personally would have rather done anything else or just like had a conversation. But there was a lot more of the guitar that didn't air. We wrote a song as a cast. They didn't air that.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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They did her dirty. Yeah, she got no hot seat. She didn't get to talk to Grant at Women Tell All. She didn't get to talk to Grant at AFR.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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I think I'm somewhere in between. I'm not in love and I'm not seriously dating anyone. I am dating around here and there, but I'm probably not going back on Temptation Island. I mean, if they call me back, they need a temptress. I guess I couldn't say no, but you never know.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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Yeah. Thanks so much for having me on. It was great to virtually meet you guys.

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E907 - Temptation Island w/ Natalie, Victoria Fuller Returns, AFR, RHOA, White Lotus, and Garcelle’s Exit

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Oh my God, the longest question ever. The golden Bachelor in Paradise. It was like, so.

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E891 Going Deeper with Bella Thorne

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Isn't an airport though different? Isn't it like at any time in an airport? That's true. It's like 5 o'clock somewhere in an airport.

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E891 Going Deeper with Bella Thorne

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Yeah, when I had come home, I was like, I guess we'll see if it's still there.

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E891 Going Deeper with Bella Thorne

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Yeah, and be checking in on everybody constantly, seeing how everyone was doing. Yeah, very weird being on the other side.

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E891 Going Deeper with Bella Thorne

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Absolutely. You wouldn't eat charcuterie with Sarah now, would you?

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E891 Going Deeper with Bella Thorne

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Naturally, as a person, I am quite by the book.

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E891 Going Deeper with Bella Thorne

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Thank you for having me.

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E891 Going Deeper with Bella Thorne

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I'm so excited.

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E891 Going Deeper with Bella Thorne

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Oh, yeah. It's Versace. A little something something in here. You know what I mean? A little light vodka. Oh, there we go.

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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira

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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira

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at my dad and the relationship that he's able to have with his children and be like you know that's the best that you can do like yeah you you don't have a dad bone in your body but like that you're doing the best you can you know and like honestly I just stopped expecting dad things from him and like it's fine now you know sometimes you imagine like a parent getting off the phone you know and thinking I was a good parent there and the kid on the other end of the phone being like

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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira

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And it's also like I bet your mom didn't get therapy at 18, 19, 20, you know, like my mom didn't either. And so now I look at the issues that we're having and it's like, you know, if you were able to have like gone back and gotten therapy and like healed this, then maybe we wouldn't be having these types of issues.

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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira

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But it's like you have to get down to like their level and be like, OK, you haven't unlocked like this part of you yet. And that's why like we have these issues.

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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira

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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira

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What is, like, traits or qualities that you think keep a friendship, like, lasting? Like, how do you think you've made these friendships last so long?

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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira

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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira

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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira

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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira

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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira

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You know, that was so cool. You did play a very interesting and like sexual, powerful character. What were your original thoughts of Kat?

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Like, I don't think I'll ever get that.

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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira

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That is all of our reactions. We had a lot of prosthetic penises. A lot. A lot.

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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira

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I feel like I saw an interview of Jacob being like, I... You chose. He was like, I went in and there was a selection. There was a huge selection and I picked the right one.

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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira

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That is nice. Sensitive subject, Angus Cloud's death. How, obviously, we saw that affect the world. How did that affect cast and you personally? I mean...

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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira

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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira

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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira

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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira

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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira

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Is it easy for you to cook for like one person or are you like, guys, I'm cooking, everyone come over. I need everyone to come. I will not cook for myself.

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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira

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So you're, like, it has to, like, plate. I like a good plate. So do I. I always feel bad because I, like, try to plate my 13-month-old daughters, like, perfectly. And she's, like, screaming, crying. And I'm, like, just, honey, if I can just get this perfectly.

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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira

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I love that. That's so cute. It's a thought that counts. It is. It is. She doesn't understand yet. She doesn't understand yet, but she will. I've taken a photo of every one of her meals and she'll be like, thanks mom. They're a cute little plate.

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Her hands like in all of them like going for something in all the pictures. It's really cute. So cute.

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It's like being from the South.

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So she's not like, I want a grandbaby.

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Nick's sister saw one, and she said that... The psychic said, the brother closest to you is going to have twins. And that's Nick. And I was like, oh.

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I think it skips generations.

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Yeah, but to make it up, all the way up to the egg, yeah.

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but that's what makes it's not identical so I guess both eggs what's crazy is my sister has twins and they are so identical that their like fingerprint DNA is the same those are fascinating crazy imagine just having like

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And they're like, but we've been together for eight years. I can't just throw it away.

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I believe so. That's with like the older, older ladies. And the first season was like with the younger. Yeah.

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But then they brought in the, they brought in the, the like, was it the dads and sons?

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I feel like... There's no one that you're specifically drawn to from history that you're like, that would just be an interesting...

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Because you started working on this in 2021? Yeah. Or before?

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That is a long time to be sitting on something, though. To just like be working on it, sitting on it, constantly thinking about it. That's a long time. I know. It's been my secret.

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Listen, love letters don't come around very often.

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I think it was my birthday. He did write out a hundred reasons why I love you.

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That's nice. That's so sweet.

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There was a few like, there was a few like your eyes. There was definitely like your toenails. I really just let's get specific.

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Yeah, all of them for sure. But I think number one is physical touch too.

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I do love a gift.

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It's really hard to be like definitely not acts of service, you know, to have someone be like one of these love languages is like absolutely not my way. You know, it's like they're all lovely and I would love to feel all of them all the time.

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For me, it was like my, you know, I was taught that like love is hard. And like, so I went through all these relationships where it was bad. It was ugly. There was, you know, violence and, you know, all of this stuff. And it was like, but this is like, it's hard because it's love. And you're supposed like, this is what it is. Okay. I've got it.

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Now that like I'm with Nick, I realized that no, love is like the easiest fucking thing. It should be the easiest thing in the world. Like it should be so easy to just be in love and love your person. Yeah.

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And you know, no, you know, it's like, I will win an Oscar.

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I feel like that scenario has unfortunately happened several times to a lot of artists. Is that something that you've been able to connect with anyone about or have any sort of like relatability with anyone?

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1-800-WITH-LOGIC was a crazy important part of culture. I feel like that was, I mean, for someone who has experienced life in that realm, you know, I feel like that was huge for me. How important was that to you? And like, how did that even, that collaboration become about?

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You did get into this industry very young. I mean, how old were you when you first started? Like, I mean, I know you released that your debut album at 18, right?

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Because I feel like that feeling... of, you know, wanting to take your own life comes from a sense of aloneness.

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It comes from a sense of like, I don't belong here. I'm the only one who's feeling this. So yeah, to put out this song and have these two huge celebrities, these two huge artists be like, we get you, we see you, like here is the help that you can go to if you need this was like, was crazy important. So I give you big props for that. That was huge.

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And I remember the performance at the MTV Awards, too.

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So you must have been working on that for quite some time before.

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Okay, okay. Salt Lake City. Start with Rihanna's favorite. Is that hers? Her favorite is Salt Lake City.

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I eat it up every time. I love it. I feel like it's because the stakes are so high. It's like they're getting married. I know. The only other thing would be like, okay, fine.

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So it's like you have some time to be like, oh, fuck. I don't know if that's my first time.

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Oh, Chelsea. Chelsea.

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Going back really quickly to your debut album, has it been a 10-year anniversary yet or not yet?

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I feel like I mean, obviously, we all change throughout life. We all make mistakes. We grow. We learn. We have different seasons. I honestly don't even relate to the person I was before I became a mom. Oh, yeah. So like, is there parts of you that still see yourself in your 18 year old self releasing that album? Or are you kind of like? I have just grown so much from who that person was.

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I don't know. I think like filming yourself, like dancing in front of your cousins and your mom to like get a sleepover that night, you know, it was like, mom, watch our routine.

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And then like that being what the world is watching, you know, ever. Yeah.

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Like you don't have, I mean like- That's even more embarrassing.

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And it's also like relationships in real life, you know.

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What was that conversation like, though, with your dad? Was it was it kind of like, I think I can sing like I want to be a singer or was like your family kind of being like, you have this talent, you should pursue this?

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I know. I'm like watching my husband like fall in love and kiss and like go on romantic dates with other women. I think I'm okay. I think I'm okay. I'd rather actually skip it. I'll watch the Cliff Notes. I've seen the crazy like things that have happened on his seasons. But I know we have to wrap up soon. I do have a question about music videos.

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Is that something that you are just as passionate about or is that something? Because I feel like music videos have kind of Obviously, when MTV was, they were all the rage. It was everything. Now they've kind of fallen off.

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But I feel like they're kind of coming back in a way where artists are really putting their heart and soul into their music videos just as much as they did the songs and the album itself. Do you feel that same way? Or are you kind of like, eh, could do without?

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I didn't realize, yeah, I didn't realize you put it on SoundCloud and that's where it... Wow. Yeah.

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And then I mean, your life completely changed after that. How how did you manage going through a complete life change?

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behind the scenes for like movies or like write scripts and stuff that's always been something that's interested me I mean you're obviously talented in writing so it makes sense that you would like carry that on with whatever you did yeah next if you had to do something next it also like makes sense I know you said it sounded kind of weird but like

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She's like, I'm really excited to open up, really talk about just like stuff I've been through. He's like, so our date today, you won't be speaking.

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Wait, does anyone else remember when he was here and he was talking about where Nick was like, if listen, like, that'll be an amazing finale. Like, you're really torn between two women. And he was like, I wasn't really that torn. Like, I just I knew I was going to pick. I just didn't want to like, you know, it's like hurting someone's feelings.

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Well, that was performing because that preview of the finale, this man is like, how much more time do I have? I have to go right now. I'm not ready. I'm not ready.

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Have you seen the drama that your ex-co-star's been in with her hairstylist? Oh, yes, I have. In fact, I kind of got into it a little bit.

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Sure. So Dorit, Tracy Tudor went on Jeff Lewis and kind of was like, she doesn't pay her bills. Based on my knowledge, there are several people that haven't been paid by her, including my stylist, who I think just tallied up with finally and her makeup artist. So she's like throwing shade things. She doesn't pay her bills, whatever. So then Dorit goes and watch what happens live.

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Andy asks her about it. Dorit squashes it. She's like, there's nothing to it. It's hysterical. That's the funniest thing I've ever heard. Like wholeheartedly, there's a whole lot of shit that's said, I don't know, it came out of left field. So then her hairstylist goes and makes this nine minute long video.

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Takes very long to get to the point of like, yeah, by the way, like it was paid for and it really wasn't that big of a deal. Oh my God. Yeah.

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It's like the bodega two blocks down. Yeah, but that's why her bill's so high.

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She's a co-worker like these girls like so messy. I don't give a gas lighter. Why are you such a gas lighter?

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Nick has even been openly about how much he's attracted to her. Oh, wow. That would bring me in.

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It's cool. That was my first time meeting him. Raw Housewives of Atlanta is back. It is. Better than ever. It is. Whoa, it's good. I mean.

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It doesn't seem like they're very respected if all these people are like, hey, toxic work environment.

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I'm already having a hard day. I was going to ask, where are you on the Dennis of it all? Are you on Portia's or Drew's side?

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You can't. I agree, too. That's rough. And especially Drew calling him her angel from heaven, her lord.

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So I'm expecting a little smoke bomb from Drew today because I think even though she like texted you personally, she texted and I just called her.

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You really think after squashing it privately, she's going to take it publicly to Instagram and like. Oh, absolutely. This is Atlanta, baby.

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Yeah, so like first it was like they were all filming without Lisa and Meredith. And it was like, ooh, are they not on this season? Then she removes Salt Lake City from her Instagram bio. And then we see her and Meredith filming. So wasn't it about money? It was a contract negotiation.

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It's so dramatic. Is that what Atlanta just say what they need to say and not be so... I don't think it would ever do that.

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You're not wearing green. This is super awkward. Well, Nick, because I asked Nick, should I wear green? And he said, well, this comes out tomorrow, so it won't be St. Patrick's Day. Well, it doesn't matter. So he was preying on my downfall.

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No. No. I definitely want to be that person. Yeah. I do. I want to be that organized, but I don't know if I have it in me. I know that he absolutely will not keep it up. So it's like, do I want to every single day?

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Well, what I'm just saying, like, I would love to be that person, but I feel like you won't, you won't allow me.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Not necessarily label it, but it's like everything's in like a plastic container.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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We're planning, it is the weekend of our anniversary of our wedding, so we're like, Is our anniversary on a Sunday? It is on the Sunday, yeah.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Of Stagecoach, so we're trying to. Come on Saturday, that's perfect. I know, I know. We usually only do Friday and Saturday because Sunday's like, we gotta get back to the real world. Sunday's, everyone's so hungover, it's not even like a day.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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I mean, we watched. Yeah. I mean, it was Coachella, but Lana Del Rey, she's playing stagecoach this year, and she came in on the backs of motorcycles and had a whole... Iconic. Iconic.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Absolutely. We love that. Yeah. Okay. What was the day like when you realized, holy fuck, Austin has taken over and it's everywhere?

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Yeah. Did you, so you got like your pick of the litter. You chose who you wanted to choose. Warner Records. I love them.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Maybe that's what you're thinking of. That's probably what you're thinking of. No, they're different. I see them both.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Smart. Okay. That was a Warner move? That was a smart Warner move. And thank God they did, because... Woo! Okay. Anyways. So we'll be moving on currently from that. How did the Kane Brown of it all start?

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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And I'm like, hell yeah. It's now opening. I mean, for someone who is, like, you're into, like, going all out and being so creative, his, like, sets, the way he performs is so creative. I saw him at Stagecoach, wait, last year or two years ago? I can't remember what it was. But I was just, like, blown away. It was so good. It's wild. We went to his show. Was that here? Yeah, that was here.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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And interviewed him beforehand. But, like, he's up on lifts. He's, like, all over the place. It's really cool.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. Yes. How? I mean, first of all, just a huge moment in general to be able to perform the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. And the lipstick on top of that. Well, yeah.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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We all have a little bit. Absolutely. How is your love life these days?

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Oh, that's in a book that's awful that I'm really just trying to get through. What book is it? The Boyfriend by Frida McKenna. Whatever. Terrible. Terrible book. But I like, I know it's like a psychological thriller. I think everyone knows it's Frida. Frida even knows that it's not her best. Okay. Okay. So I'm really just trying to get through it because I did pay $12.99 for it on my Kindle. Oh.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Yeah. So I'm really just trying to get through it currently in this moment.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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I was very much into like erotic thrillers for a moment. And then I did very much, my clit didn't need a break.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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I'll send you the links. I'll send you the links. They got me through some tough times. Okay. Nick was snoring beside me. What was I doing?

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Who, who plays, um, no, the other guy. Rick. Anyways, Rick's just sitting there and he's like, uh-huh, yeah. Can you imagine being the writer of that monologue?

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Honestly, you want to go further than what you think we want. We want you to take it to another level.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Did you see the twist coming of the friend fucking the guy who works? No, I didn't actually. You didn't? But I'm kind of glad it happened. It's like, you know, the three girls, they hate each other so much. Yes. And so like the fact that the entire time she's been like pushing Lori to have sex with this guy and then she does it is like so fucked.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Nick was asking me if, like, it's with the scene of them, like, dancing and then the three women who were, like, staring at him and she was, like, dancing harder. He was like, does that really happen? Like, women who, like, want your man and you kind of like show them that you can't have them.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Saxon, yeah. Oh, oh yeah. And he's going to be like, oh my God. And I just kissed my brother and I kind of liked it.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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No, I don't think he, I think he'd just be like, I'm like, I think he goes crazy. Who's going to die? What if he kills Chelsea? There was a lot of gunshots in like the first episode preview. Yeah. I don't know.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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How was your best friend through it all? Was she like because I feel like she was watching it. She had to.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Your brother. My brother. Oh, I was like, wait, when did that happen? What did I miss? No, no, no. I can't imagine watching my brother on a dating show thinking people would actually like him. And then I am shocked. I'm also shocked that he's married. And he's been married for quite some time. Dang. None of my siblings are married yet.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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What's crazy is that the person who chose him was his first ever girlfriend. Oh, really? Did he like circle back or was it like a consistent?

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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no it was like he like never really had a girlfriend like growing up he was just like never really that type of guy and then went into the military and like met a girl and then they started dating and then he got out of the military and then they got married wow I know what's up with you guys what have you guys been watching what should I watch you watch everything we watch everything I know because you guys like report on everything yeah I feel bad that I don't know more reality you need to watch Temptation Island really Temptation Island is bonkers I like tea I like like really juicy tea it's really crazy um there's threesomes oh

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Love. And the girl, well, his girlfriend has to watch this happen on a screen. Wait, there's a girlfriend? They come as couples. Oh. No, it's crazy. And they have to see like, are you going to be tempted by all these other girls that you're going to be living with who are like the temptresses?

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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And it's like their job to get you to like break and fall in love with them and touch and break your physical boundaries, whatever the hell you may have. And then every like couple days they go and they like sit at this bonfire and watch a screen of like what their boyfriend is doing with these. Oh, my God. It's crazy.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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And it was two women because they go on dates. They get to pick someone to go on a date with. And he did not choose either of those women to go on the date because he was like, then you form an emotional connection. And I was just trying to have a threesome. Whoa. So like everyone that's at the bottom are all the temptresses?

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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So the women get the men, the men get the women, and they're all trying to see who's going to break. Whoa. It's really wild. So if you have any free time, I would definitely suggest. Love. Yeah. I really like Too Hot to Handle too.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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a nice tent with a bed in it and each of the villas. And it was like, if you go into this, it was like, no cameras are allowed in there. So if you go in, like you can do whatever you want to do, not on camera, but it lights up at the other house. So like the women will know that someone, one of their men took a girl in with no cameras.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Anyways, so she goes in and on their way and she's like, I really wish you would have carried me. And his response is, maybe next time. Huh?

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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It's just so sad. Like Alexa and Lena, they've been together for like almost four years. It's like, what are you doing? What?

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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100 i just thought it was wild that he's singing like a i made a mistake with you to the song to the girl walking out going as she's like sitting next to him it's like was it a song that he wrote yes apparently that morning would be so bad no i cannot do that it was awful

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Yeah. What do you do in that situation? Not bubble butt. What? Bubble butt is from Spongebob.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Because everyone's like, and then people are like, you know what? Let's just say Slow. Yeah. There's a lot of towns that people can't pronounce. There was a town next to me where I grew up called Opelika and no one could fucking say Opelika. Am I offended?

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Really? Like if you're offended that I cannot pronounce the name of your town and it has 92 letters in it, like I am sorry.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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I'm sorry. She said, did your lungs give out? Were you listening whenever it was playing or were you just like guessing?

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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I heard what I wanted to hear. Well, did you see a little Southern charm? Madison LaCroix is like people are all up in arms because apparently her house was listed for sale and everyone's freaking the fuck out, which I think is the weirdest.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Yeah, she, someone, wait, she offered a cryptic comment or someone?

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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There's no way she is pregnant, moving, like taking her son who's, he's like, what, 10, 11, like out of school and moving to California. I mean, maybe, I don't know, but like definitely seems like she's like, my response to that would be like,

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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No, no, no. My response would be like the most random, I would say somewhere in Europe, like just a random place of like, mind your own business. Like I'm not, I don't know. Bulgaria. I'm moving to Bulgaria.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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It is interesting that that would be the way that she reveals that she's moving. It's just responding to a comment.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Did you see the five million hats under his coffee table? We're the same age.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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It actually wasn't that bad. I remember the first time. Yeah. Did he have nightstands? Multiple pillows? He did. He had nightstands. He had two pillows. Yeah. A duvet? Or a blanket? He did have a duvet. Anything on his walls? Pictures of himself. Stop it. It was like mixed tiles. It was probably like a brand deal. It was a brand deal.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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It wasn't just me. It wasn't a bunch of selfies. Your bachelor poster. It wasn't a bunch of selfies, but there was definitely a bunch of pictures of you and your friends and family.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Some like art from Bed Bath & Beyond. No art. No art. Yeah. He had a blue velvet couch. Oh, that's fancy. Sassy. Yeah. What else did you have?

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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I don't think I ever stepped foot in your guest bedroom, but I do remember it being just like full of crap.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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studio like at the lake or i need like i'm thinking of like putting an art i'm like you have not he set up an art studio in our current house five years ago when we moved in and he has not once stepped foot into his art studio i'm like and now he's like well we need to have one at like any possible house that we could ever live in in our future must have an art studio in case i decide to dabble thank you justin are you you can't rush the art we're playing we're playing for the future what do you what do you what's inside this art studio

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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But JT was definitely under... This episode? Yeah. Honestly, every episode of JT gets worse and worse and worse and worse.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Honestly, like, I... some black girl cute some cute black girl like I don't throwing in the word cute doesn't make it any better yeah you know and he's really like trying to make sure that like that is gonna make it better yeah and it doesn't it's insensitive regardless yeah and then him calling Vanita and like making himself the victim was weird the whole idea like forget about

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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And that's also not something someone would lie about. Like, yeah, I spent $5,000 on him. Like,

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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But also she does really like to like really throw it in. It's like the whole conversation with Austin of like. her being like, you're preaching to the choir. Like, yep. I, you know, I don't think you need to let, they very much were like bonding over their relationships being similar on their end and like kind of in front of Craig where it was like, Okay.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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scared if you live a fast-paced life to bring children into it because they're scared of like oh my gosh I'm gonna have to like sacrifice so much and it's like well on one end you do but also like a baby joins your life and it's it's if you want to it is very easy to like include babies they're adaptable they go with the flow you know like it's it's honestly not as hard as I think a lot of people make it out to be and it's like if

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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I think if if they wanted to make it work like they it wouldn't be that hard.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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And like, I don't know, that's really the only, like, you just got to bring a lot more snacks and toys, you know? Yeah.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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But also it very much did seem like Paige did not or was not willing to like make Craig a priority in her life. It seemed very much like her career was really the only thing, you know, because she even said like, well, once like we get married and like my mom, like, you know, that's like my mom.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Craig did say, I don't remember, because they all run together if it was in Summer House or Southern Charm, but he was like, I've never been in this submissive interrelationship before. Oh, yeah.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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clearly they didn't work out it's interesting to like watch the relationship kind of fall apart it's very much giving like in a completely different way but the like when we knew what happened with sandoval and raquel and like you knew what happened and then you watched the season and you just paid more attention to them and the background and you just saw it's just like all of it meant more because you knew like how everything ended up it's like you watch their relationship a little bit closer because you know they're not together and it's like do you see it

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Like, could you imagine if like you and Connor are like, should we? I don't know, like maybe some like big life decision. I don't know. Should we buy a beach house? I don't know. Whatever. And is she helping? And you're no, but you're like, I can't. I need to like talk to like, I just like can't do this without like my grandma is like she has to like approve.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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But if she was like, I don't think you should buy this beach house, but you and Connor have already gone through everything. You're financially stable. You can do it. Would you be like, we can't do it? My grandma said no.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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would you like she even like gave the example of like if there were two things you were choosing from and like you wanted to do one but your mom wanted you to do the other like would you do the other because your mom said so and Craig was like no I'm 37 years old like yeah absolutely not I'm doing what I want to do and then Paige saying her mom's never been wrong maybe but like that might be through like

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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I hear you. What did y'all think of the Danielle, like, interrogating Lindsay about living with Turner? I'm like, girl, didn't you leave the show?

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Would you feel the same if Lindsay got pregnant, had the baby and she was like, well, now we have to get married six months in?

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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She just had to kick Carl out who blindsided her and with an engagement. She just moved the last box out of him.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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I kept my apartment in Georgia to not add extra pressure onto our relationship because we were already living. No, but I moved across the country for you. I mean, that's pretty big commitment. Right.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Well, no, she is a CEO. So I feel like she does know how to make smart decisions. It was feeling just very not like girl's girl. It was like interrogating in front of everybody or like was weird energy.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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No? No. That would just put me in my head. You would rather wait until after? Yeah.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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But they've been doing this since they met each other. They've had this little bit. And so it's like Jesse's the one, if he does end up wanting to commit to Lexi, Then he should come to Sierra and be like, hey, love you. Like, still a homie, but, like, we got to draw the line with flirting.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Well, when he was on the show, he said that. He was like, I literally was like, that changes everything. Like, I'm not having sex in fantasy suites.

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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island

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Well, anyways, but... But wait, did you have sex with... No, wait, out of curiosity, because I'm curious if, like, because you knew you were going to pick Vanessa the whole time. So, like, if he knew he was going to pick Juliana the whole time, he's like, listen, like, I'm not having sex with anyone else but Juliana. Like, so did you have sex with Vanessa?

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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

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It is crazy. I never like I'd never heard of them, obviously, like I know of so many other family vloggers. But it's like watching. I saw some clips from the documentary and watching some of these clips. It just shows you like, honestly, what I feel like to be the truth of behind the scenes of every single one of these family vloggers who like make their children perform for the camera. Like I.E.

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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

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Ruby being like, who are you named after to her son? And he's like, my grandpa. And she's like, you say it with more like enthusiasm. Be happier when you say it. And he's like, I'm just not happy right now. And she's like, well, you better act like you are, you know, and it's like we're not going to do this if you're not. And then he's like, my grandpa. She's like, thank you.

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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

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You know, it's just crazy how. And I feel like that's every single family vlogger who has their kids doing a bit or dancing or whatever the hell it may be. It's so sad. I mean, I'm interested to watch, obviously. I think she's in prison for how long?

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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

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Her being like, oh, I'll just cut this out whenever I edit it on YouTube. It's like it reminds me so much of that. I don't even remember who and I think I might have talked about this before, but I don't remember who the YouTuber was, but it was like her and her. maybe like six-year-old son. And she's like talking about how her dog had died. Yeah. And she's like, we have to make a thumbnail.

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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

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Cry, cry. And she's like, put your hand over your eyes like you're crying. And he's like, I don't want to. Or he's like, I am crying or something. And she's like, no, but like make it look. Make it look like you're actually crying. I mean, it's just this, it's,

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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

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That's good. Did the dad, and this might be a spoiler, but did the dad ever go against his wife, Ruby, at any point?

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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

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I saw an interview where there was not an intimacy coordinator.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

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You think Dylan's trying to be like a little bit more grimy because he's so pretty?

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

1554.301

He said he was asked, he was like playing some little game and he was asked about something he finds overrated. And Dylan Efron said, I think people shower too much. We take way too many showers. I go in the pool a lot. Like there's chlorine. It's killing everything. We don't need to soap our bodies every time we're in the shower either.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

156.74

It's Indy. But they both were like, it was like some intense sex scenes.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

1660.429

Mm-hmm. Well, we had Vanita on last week to kind of clear up some of the JT and her rumors. And then we have this episode of Southern Charm that came out where we see a little like moment that was described differently by the both of them. And Vanita took to her Instagram to say, let me make something very clear.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

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And she kind of like calls out the editors for rearranging these like scenes and making it seem like she is a homewrecker, she says.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

1692.175

She said that the dinner JT and I had after I made a branzino was after the Bahamas, as y'all as an audience saw it before. So this week's episode is now making me look like I'm a homewrecker when I'm not. I know what I signed up for, but I also will not allow the world to think that I'm the woman when I'm not. Make sure you add this screenshot to all of the Reddit threads.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

1777.1

But this is about her being called a homewrecker. So it's a little bit more like...

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

1865.272

Well, I think he probably left because everyone fucking hates him. That too. And he was like, I'm not.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

1997.418

But do you not feel like Dorit is like constantly kind of like nagging at Sutton to like get a reaction?

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

2173.291

She's definitely playing messy and she's definitely like really dirty. And I'm I would love to see the other women at least not even they don't even have stand up for Dorit, but they can at least just be like Sutton. Like that was way too far. Not cool.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

2402.816

He's not doing that, and he's blaming his friends and his sister of this, like, well, they keep bringing me new rumors, and they don't want me to marry someone who had a boyfriend so recently, and my sister doesn't approve of this, and my friends won't, and it's getting to the point where it's like you are choosing to believe your friends over your fiance in a place where at some point you have to say,

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

2427.583

Like, and clearly he just didn't want to do this because he just didn't want to marry her. But it's like, he didn't even want to be like, okay, like I hear my, like he couldn't go to his friends and be like, guys, like,

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

2533.883

Well, that's his problem. It's his fault for not asking more questions in the pods because he did say like, how long ago were you with someone? And she told him. And if he didn't want to ask more questions and get more out of her, he wanted to like wait until his friends filled his ears with stuff. That's his own fault.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

2564.818

But then it clearly like wasn't that big of a thing because later on when they all meet up at this like party and Molly talks to him and she's kind of like, what the fuck? Like, why did you do this? Why didn't you do that? And he goes back to talk to Lauren and it's kind of like, I want to try things with you. Like I...

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

258.711

I'd probably be like, I don't really know what they're referring to. I don't remember this iconic moment 22 years ago, so I don't know if it was as iconic as I think.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

2582.622

Yeah, I mean, listen, again, it's... So how was it such a big problem before and now it's not? To quote Gabby, they always come back. They always do.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

2612.759

I think it has nothing. I think it has nothing to do with your take. I think your take is your take because it's you and it's who you are. I think Dave's take is because he didn't want to marry her. And I think he's going to listen to this and I think he's going to use everything you say at the reunion. Like, I don't think he's thinking this way at fucking all.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

2626.715

I don't think it's really bothering him. I don't think it's really. I just think he was trying to get out of this marriage.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

2639.709

He's currently engaged and he's telling his sister like, yeah, we're not together. It's broken off.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

2670.073

The facts are still the facts. She still slept with him no matter what Molly said to him.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

2896.573

What did you think about Madison coming in with her pink hair and talking shit about Alex?

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

2917.05

She comes in immediately throwing shots. Immediately is like, yeah, well, Meg was texting Alex before she even knew we could have been engaged. And she had no idea. And she was already up in his DMs.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

2944.764

Yeah, that's crazy. Her being like, he said, fuck Mason. I don't believe that for a second. Alex does not look like the person who would say, that's his best friend from the show. Like, no, fuck Mason.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

2981.351

Well, yeah. But also, yeah, I don't think I don't think Alex is that guy. And Madison is trying so hard. Like, I feel like the reunion is going to be so messy because she's going to come in and be insane.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

3005.743

That's why she was trying to talk shit about Meg like trying to reach out to Alex because it's like that's her trying again to like ruin that relationship with Mason.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

3119.608

I really did think the, like, the zoom-in was just a Southern thing. I've seen that, like, honestly, all over the churches in the South, and it is, like, a... It'll be, like, a big pastor from Texas, and he's, like, preaching to this small church. It's giving megachurch. You know? Yeah. Yeah.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

3182.839

I will say it was... But for your pastor? Sure. I will say it was kind of fucked up for them to give the men the... Bachelor party? What was the bachelor party?

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

3192.993

Yeah, the Vikings. And the women was like, everyone dressed up like old people. Like...

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

339.606

So perfect. Yeah, I would probably we would probably have maybe a little bit of a fight.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

349.654

yeah definitely I'm like legs are shifted towards the door and window I'm looking at the window but what if Nick also won an Oscar that night then congrats but like what does that do for me it's Halle Berry though that's a flex for you like Halle Berry kissed my husband but they already kissed 10 years ago so it's like still a flex for me because like my boyfriend but he kissed her 20 years ago

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

3535.343

Monica and Joey. Honestly, is that all of them? I think Devin and Virginia will. I want one person to leave the altar.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

3600.953

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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

369.713

I mean, I feel like I would still regardless be like, hey, I feel like maybe no.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

3745.965

We're so happy to have you. This has been such a fun season. Good.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

380.04

Maybe if he like told her like, hey, are you cool with this? Like me and Hallie are planning on like recreating this moment.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

3886.28

Now is on, yeah, it was an interesting run. Do you feel like where you and Sally are today is better than when you were filming? Or are you kind of like, I'm not investing in that relationship?

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

3953.803

So did you, I guess, whenever you heard that Sally was joining the show, were you aware of her previous fling with your boyfriend Gaston?

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

4094.994

I feel like we saw at so like y'all had this conversation. You heard she was going to be on the show off camera. You kind of meet up and you're like, or was this on camera?

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

4108.319

And she was like, I wish nothing but the best for you two. And then on camera, she switches up and starts like talking a lot of shit about Gaston, talking some shit about you, saying Nick's like worst, the thing he hates the most that people say is nobody here likes you.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

4193.972

a huge bitch and a very, like, mama bear energy if someone tries to come for Nick, especially, like, in front of my face. So I honestly respect you so much for, like, keeping the peace as much as you did. I mean, to sit there, like, to have the whole, like, JT bring up this whole, like, Sally, like... What was that rumor again you brought up?

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

4375.083

I mean, I'm sure it, and I do see like the frustration on his end because it's like, you know, we weren't in that room. We know that there's editing, but like Craig swears by a lot of things that JT says, and then we don't have any of that proof. And Shep is also like corroborating me like I didn't hear any of that.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

4393.253

So where do you land on the whole like Patricia's a bitch and I Madison like wanted or Brett thought Madison and I were having an affair.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

440.561

She was running late this morning. She was like, I just got home. Oh, that's nice. Okay, can't wait to leave you in the hands of... So everyone's got enough time right now.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

4529.68

Have you seen Sienna going live or all the TikTok she's posting, like trying to expose the truth about her time on the show and her relationship with Chef?

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

4597.649

Truly. Understandably. Yeah, it's just you not knowing the, like, details of it and just assuming of, like, who you know Shep to be.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

4731.54

Would you support him and Molly or are you kind of like, I don't want Molly to get involved with that?

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

4807.468

And also having someone like Sally who wants to be you attack your current relationship. Like, is it worth going through that again?

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

5102.876

I mean, I do think it is hard because it's like Austin's ex-girlfriend who could be his current girlfriend's like brother's sister's friend heard. And it's like, okay. Are Emmy and Will at the reunion? Will doesn't show up.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

5313.12

I definitely don't need like extra things in my mouth when I'm trying to like do a PJ. Like I don't need to like...

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

5325.965

No, that's just extra things. I have to like peanut butter. So sticky. You know how long that's in your mouth for? Like you're like, yeah, it's like constantly.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

5348.458

Do we see marriage with Gaston? Nialla, do you want to answer that? Yeah.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

5516.637

There is some speculation about Sally and Craig. Obviously, they were, like, seen at Nobu or something in New York. Like... And then I took it as like, oh, it's two coworkers in the same place. And then she went on Watch What Happens Live and was asked about it and played really coy and was kind of like, we had a chaperone.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

562.185

Well, we were out of town this past weekend and I got a pinched nerve in my back. Oof. Terrible. Awful. I've never had one before. It was the worst thing I've ever experienced. And it's because... You're getting closer to 30. Yeah, I'm getting closer to 30. I'm getting old, everybody. I'm getting old. Yikes. So no, it's because we didn't bring a crib for River.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

5669.215

What was your reaction to seeing Shep, of all people, have a comment on Gaston's appearance?

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

5805.254

Tom is great television. He is. But I mean, Gabby is also made for television and she's.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

582.989

So she slept in the bed with us and she sleeps like a crazy person. Like, no, literally spread starfish, like legs up, legs down, head in the back. It's the crazy. Yeah. So I had and I'm not exaggerating, maybe three inches of space on that bed. And the entire night I'm like straining to not fall off the bed, you know, so I'm like tightening every muscle to like stay on the bed.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

5889.017

We'll see what's in the cards. I feel like it's a safer space for you. You know, like,

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

5917.44

Yeah, you don't have to be working. You can just be like there. Grace Lilly? Yeah.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

5950.237

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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

5997.315

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The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

6010.747

Yeah. I mean, I would, too, after everything. It's Sally's done, you know.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

6054.233

The chemistry between Zoe and Grant is the most... the hardest thing to watch. There's absolutely nothing there. I mean, that date was brutal.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

6066.721

I guess just like the photo shoot. Everything was just like so hard to watch, like not like neither of them looked like they really were like into each other.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

611.477

No, I look over at Nick and he's like, he forgets that it's a king size bed and he could be on the complete other side. And I wouldn't even know he's there, but no, he's right up under me as well. So the next morning I am like bending down to get river or changing her diaper, doing something like, and I twist and it's over for me.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

6110.825

The fact that he's saying right now, I like Zoe a lot at hometowns is a wild statement to say.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

6282.023

Traditional. And she was saying how like, this isn't, you know, they don't approve of the fact that like you're dating 25 other women. So I think it definitely had to do with like that.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

630.211

So then I tell Nick, I'm like, I've, I've pinched a nerve in my back. Like seriously. And the river keeps, I keep having to like bend down to pick river up. And he's like, well, first of all, you shouldn't be bending. You should be squatting. Like, are you fucking kidding me? Are you getting right now? He's like, you, it's like rule number one, you squat. And I'm like, sure.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

6402.629

I definitely thought she was going to go farther than Zoe. So that was shocking to me.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

6438.601

But her family was like, we don't care. As long as you're like a man of God, which he is. He says faith is important to him. They're like, that's all we care. They're like, you don't have to be a Mormon to be in our family.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

666.347

Gotta start squatting. You cannot bend. Rule number one. Don't do that. So helpful.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

6713.034

I mean, I can see why he's so torn in the preview where he's like, I can see why.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

6937.182

But she's putting her expectations up front. Yeah. And Dave and Lauren did not have that...

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

7006.993

Actually. What was going on with the whole Kyle rage texting page?

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

7118.259

I mean, I wonder what she said actually to Kyle. I hope that it was this exact response.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

7145.558

And I was like, I couldn't hang. I'm guessing he's the one who's like in this threesome that apparently happens. I think he has to be.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

7255.033

Oh, yeah. When she was like, I think that you're like not as. Oh, I think you're really smart. Yeah, I think you're really smart.

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

7271.661

We find out if Brittany voted for Danielle or Ivor. What do we think?

The Viall Files

E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

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But then we find out whoever this like seer is and like whoever got the most points, which I feel like is Danielle because she got the like 2000 points here. Everyone else kind of lost points. She did the whole gold thing. Like, I think she's got to be this year. And if she goes home, then maybe they would just pass it down to the next person with the most. But.

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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

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I do think it's one thing to, like, yeah, go to, like, get a lunch at an Air One or a Whole Foods and do, like, the hot bar, but if you're at a restaurant that serves you, like, you have your own waiter.

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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets

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The amount of times he's like, I'm going to order a shrimp cocktail. And then as soon as it hits the table, he's like, this is not going to be good.

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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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It says that it's no longer going to be hitting Earth. At least that's what my stepfather told me. Maybe he was just trying to make me calm down. I don't know. If an asteroid hits, we don't have to pay off our student loans.

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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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natalie i completely agree with you like i have definitely like struggled with certain things in my life and like being pregnant and like going through that whole thing like can be incredibly healing for multiple reasons emotionally physically and i just feel like just in general people need to like mind their own business when it comes to stuff like that it's tough because you know the internet is full of them

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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Did you have to channel yourself, like try and think like, OK, I'm in a movie.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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Was there any part of you watching it back? That was like, I never saw it. Oh, really?

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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Did you feel safer in this environment than with like the housewives? Because obviously you can't control what all these other women are saying and like they want to create drama and like here you're with your family.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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No, it's... That was like our third, but I think that was the longest time. It's usually like one night that we're able to leave. This was two nights later.

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It's because now she like knows that we're gone. You know, like before she just was so little. She didn't really like know what was going on. And now it's like if we FaceTime and the FaceTime hangs up, she's crying. She's mad.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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Yeah. Kyle's involvement and like PK's the friendship. It's all a big mess on this season. Yeah.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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Really? Yeah, it's really tiny. I didn't know it was that small. It's so small.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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Did you have to? I mean, I know we did. And it was a very traumatic thing to even have to like pack a to go bag to think of everything that you cannot replace.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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It is honestly such a healthy mindset I feel like to have is just to be like, I don't give a fuck.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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um so it was just it was actually the silver lining going through all that was that I was able to just be myself doing stuff you know what I mean yeah I feel like today's like I feel like TikTok is the like nasty okay magazine and like the like tabloids of that era who would just print crazy false like makeup so I feel like TikTok is that today because it's like

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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anyone can say anything and run with it and it gets millions of views and goes viral and whatever and so yeah it's like for me I don't I don't get on TikTok I don't because like the second I get on I have an intense anxiety of like what I know because people can just say they can say whatever and it's crazy it is crazy yeah I'm glad I didn't go through my divorce during this time yeah yeah oh yeah now it's it's nuts out there no it's not good

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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I don't know. I feel like all my goldfishes when they died, they were like belly up and like.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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I think he should be a faithful just because he's really not a good liar at all. He's one of those who's like, I lied to you earlier about I just can't. I can't go on any longer. I didn't take the trash out. I lied to you. So I feel like if he was a traitor, there's a lot of manipulating and lying.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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Yeah, she made a journey. You know what that reminds me of? There's like a veterinarian clinic somewhere. I don't know exactly where and what part of the country, but whenever they have to like euthanize dogs, they like if they're sick or like old age or whatever, they give them a Hershey's kiss because they say no dog should die without trying chocolate.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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No, it's what? What? Did you smoke weed? What? Huh? And then he gets up and like, oh, someone's at the door. Like, I have to go hang up clothes or something. I have to leave immediately.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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Good. So do we. Does he get your water, turn off the lights, lock the doors?

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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Yeah, today. Yeah, not today. Okay, he's going to have to make up.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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But then I said, actually, you know what? I would like for you to make me coffee, but he never turned on the... I did.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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Honestly, it's really because if I were to go in there, it would be like time to play.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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Yeah, it's a lot harder. He's a lot more of like a calmer energy.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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She did in the beginning. We transitioned her to her crib at like four months, four and a half months. And she loves it. And she like, I put little stuffed animals in each corner of the crib. And she like will play.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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Honestly, when we put her in at four months, she was like, I'm good to go.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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It's crazy. I'll be on like the far corner and she's really close up next to me. And then Nick is really close. And I'm like, there is so much room, Nick, on your side. You've got to scoot over. Everyone has got to scoot.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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Steve is naughty. Steve is so bad. He opens drawers. He pulls stuff out in the middle of the night.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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If she comes near him, he's like, oh, that's so cute. And Steve will let her like pet him.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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We have a communal cup. We drink like at dinner. Nick and I will make one big Stanley of like full water.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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So I'm from Alabama, lived in Georgia for a while, grew up going to Tennessee a ton. So I think we just have a lot... Since having River, I feel like we both want to just raise her in a different, a slower life, a slower atmosphere, bigger community, closer to family. So I do think we're going to end up in the South at some point, hopefully sooner rather than later.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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I get it. As someone who grew up there, it is quite boring. At least the place. I mean, I grew up in a college town. And if you're like not in college or retired, it's like.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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No, no, no. My mom's still in Alabama. She comes to visit like once a month for a week or something.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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This is going to be so exciting. I'm so excited to watch it. It's going to be amazing. Congratulations on everything. Thank you so much. You really crushed Special Forces. We were like, damn, she killed it.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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And it did like I feel like it definitely made Meg question everything with Mason, which ended up obviously in both of them just going home, which was sad.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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Yeah, you couldn't have stuck it out a little longer for the vacation. Yeah.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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Do you think watching it back, you kind of like felt really good about your decision or was there any part of you that was like, maybe I like saw that wrong and like seeing it from her perspective or seeing a conversation she had with Mason, like change your mind about anything?

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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Yeah, I was watching that to see her kind of trying to like ruin that relationship as well between Meg and Mason.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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I'll try it out. And the mock neck turtlenecks, do you feel like those are going to make another round in the mix?

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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Listen, blue is definitely your color. You look great in blue. I think it was more so just like the commit to the turtleneck that there was lack thereof.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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Did you see his reaction where he jumped through the pews into Rihanna's arms?

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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He can't handle a bisexual baddie. I will say I am kind of like bored with a lot of these couples. You know, like I can't, like Monica and Joey, it's hard to watch.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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That's definitely believable. I think what's less believable is the fact that he specifically says he has a great memory with Instagram handles and profile pictures.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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I guess it's just it's uber specific to say something that you're like very good at memorizing. I like the way you said it actually. What? She said she liked the way you said it. I like that. We should make that a thing. I kind of like that too. I also say heat seeder. Heat seeder. You want me to turn your heat seeder on?

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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I'll say right now I have two hundred and seventy seven thousand Instagram followers and I'm following seven hundred and seventy two people. Couldn't tell you. And I don't want that to change.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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But I do think people really do, like to my point of saying the numbers thing, I do think people do like look at, you know, if they're like, oh, I hit 400 and then it's down to 399. Like they're going to recognize that. They're going to see that. Like I do think it's like for people who don't have, when it's easy to see the number change, I do think people notice that.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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I think his lawyer was there and he was like, okay, get the fuck off me.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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I do also think she was not going to give him a second chance after that. he was like, listen, I'm not really like as educated in this whole stuff as you are until I think maybe it was Brittany or one of the other women was like, well, if he says he's willing to learn, then that's like, you know, he's willing to learn. Maybe you should give him another shot.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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So it's like she was ready to like pull the plug just because he

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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And then Dorit comes in and they're like, sorry, we already met with your husband.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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because a lot of these lawyers also can mediate i believe but well i once again like i'm waiting for the time i disagree with both yeah i want to be her friend she's on the money wish sutton would have said i have been sitting in your living room for 45 minutes and like then you're gonna say something about my drinking like yeah i'm out of here

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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Like, I wish she would have called out how long she'd been sitting there. Maybe she wasn't aware. Maybe that was like just editing, doing a great job. But waiting alone for 45 minutes in someone's house, like at a party, at an event is crazy.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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if I walked into a house and it was a jump house with little kids I didn't know and I was like who where am I first of all and there's no one in the house you do not see Dorit you're like hello hello and no one's saying anything and so you just sit there on your phone like and then 45 minutes pass like I'm sorry and she comes down and ignores you I'd be like okay I mean yeah I thought everyone was off their rocker this episode except for both like I mean Dorit I don't know what was that whole moment when she's like I'm gonna keep this bag like what that was the craziest moment ever

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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What else was she going to do? Go and chat with like the kids going down the inflatable slide? Like, no, she she did what anyone would do when you walk somewhere and you're uncomfortable. You sit on your phone. That's exactly what she did.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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It goes so fast. I honestly had a moment the night before her birthday and I was like putting her to bed and I was crying and I was like, I must have just been like blacked out. How did it go by this fast? Like there's no way.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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It does make me so mad, though, that they don't say that stuff in person, like in the moment. I'm like, I get that you film this a couple months later. You're just like, put yourself back in that scenario. But it's like you couldn't have been sitting there and be like, Garcelle, you speak for Sutton constantly. And like now you have, you know, like I just wish sometimes they would say these things.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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Also, I haven't heard the word douche in I don't know how long.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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Listen, I also will say I have pulled that joke before of being like, oh my God, that's a huge Chanel. Like, do you want me to take it off your hands and I can take it home? But the way that Dorit was like straight stone cold, would not release her grip on that bag, was like almost left her house with it, was crazy. And the awkwardness, everyone was just like, um. It's also a $29,500 bag.

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E888 - Denise Richards Returns, Traitors w/ Chrishell, Love Is Blind w/ Alex, RHOBH, & Justin/Blake Update

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He's like farting out 300 grand a month. If you can just give that away a month, how much are you making?

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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Yeah. They're like, you were kissing our ass. Like you were obsessed with us.

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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Brittany Cartwright also does come out and say that she did drug tests on Jax Taylor every week for the safety of their son.

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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I do drug testing on Jax every Monday. It scares me. I'm drug testing him myself for the safety of my son, and I'm going to continue doing that for a while. I just feel like it's so hard because even if he is sober, his actions have not changed.

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Well, I'm sure she doesn't want to like take his father away from him. So she's like, why is she administering?

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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Yeah. Who is left? I don't think. I mean, Ashley and Ben are probably the only. Because Jared and Dean squashed theirs.

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didn't didn't their 10 year. Wasn't it wasn't it this month, March? And that's and we were all like, oh, maybe he's trying to divorce her before the 10 years, because then it's like, yeah, but I don't think he has the money.

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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I don't know. I think it was like the jeweler talking about that transaction with Lisa, I think is a huge red flag. I mean, my mom was a jeweler for 20 years and was like, that is rule number one. Like you never talk about- Like HIPAA laws. Yeah. Yeah. HIPAA. Yeah. Literally. And so I think maybe there was a little bit of like conspiracy between the two of them. I think the jeweler like

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definitely liked Lisa maybe a little bit more than Bronwyn and was like, oh, I'll help you bring some ammo to the reunion.

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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So I was kind of like, did watching it like change your opinion on why she decided or were you just like, well, okay. Got it.

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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For someone who was like, I mean, such a fucking star at a young age, she really is like super down to earth. So down to earth.

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And I love it. You wrote that shopping scene. Yes. That's an iconic scene.

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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She put it on YouTube and was like, I hope a Bachelor producer finds this.

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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Yeah. Well, it was years ago. It definitely isn't currently, but it might have been when business cards were popping.

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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I would never kill you. I don't even have a way off the top of my head. Probably poison. Okay.

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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Well, it feels like, A, a lot of work, you know? Like, you gotta find the inmate, then you gotta, like, communicate with the inmate.

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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It is crazy to see the difference in villas, you know, with all the women and their whipped cream and their lingerie. And then the guys are like, so do you want to make a drink or do you want to chat?

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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But yeah, that dynamic is... You don't want chocolate licked off your abs?

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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What do you think is the most insane thing you've seen on the set? Insane? Yeah.

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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I don't know. I feel like we could probably take allegedly out of this. The evidence is damning.

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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Do you feel like a lot of them use the excuse of like, well, I just watched her like say that like she doesn't want this man or I'm embarrassing to her. So like, fuck it, I'll just go and like do this with this girl.

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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Could you imagine, because obviously they all sit in the swings and the temptresses and the tempters put their bracelets on who they're interested in. Could you imagine if you're sitting beside your boyfriend of three years and no one's coming to put their bracelet on him? Could you imagine the ick that that would give you?

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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The way that he talked about their like bedroom, like their sex physicality.

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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That's why I think it's nice that they do show them in the moment. And it's not like, oh, let's get home. We're fine. Everything's fine. Let's watch it back and be like, what?

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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No, no, no. She reached out to someone in jail to find a hitman.

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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Yeah, it was so catty. And one of them, I don't remember. Oh, I think it was. I don't know if it was Ashley or Taylor, but she was talking about Kay. And she's like, yeah, her hair is fake as fuck. Yeah. Like those extensions are awful. They look like. Not holding back.

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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I do. Like Nick said last night, he was like, I appreciate them, like, giving the tempters and temptresses, like, airtime. They humanize.

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It's also, I will say it's also hard to watch the like, women are just so hot and naturally like sexy. And then to watch the men like try to flex and be hot is so icky.

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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She was just giving people money so that they could get the new iPhone 16 Plus Pro Max. $2,000?

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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I kind of took the stance of when at the reunion, when we talked about Ben, you know, reaching out to you and wanting to get on the same page before reunion. You kind of took that as it felt scripted. It felt like he was you. It made you question a lot of his previous acts.

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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I kind of was under the impression of like, if you leave a relationship kind of mutually, like no one really fucks anyone over that bad. It's like, hey, we all have, like you said, been through this experience. We know like what the Internet can be like. Let's kind of try to protect each other as much as possible.

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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And like if there's something we need to like hash out, maybe we do that privately between the two of us and not on national television. So like, do we want to get on the same page again?

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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Do not stress enough. Do not read comments. Yeah. Ignorance is bliss. Get outside. Yeah.

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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Sometimes you have to like, I, the amount of times I delete TikTok off my phone, I delete Instagram off my phone. I limit comments. I only allow certain, you know, friends and family to, like, you just can't allow people to have access to you. And I think blocking that off is very, very self-serving. And I think you, it helps a lot.

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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You know, he was probably in Australia playing a show, scouring Raya, had a little match session.

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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I don't know. Maybe she's like, I don't know. I met this guy. He's really nice. He's charming. He's this. And then you have Zach being like, here's my side of the story. And she's like, you know what? Like, I have you in front of me. I don't have.

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I mean, I wish nothing terrible on her. I hope that he's like learned from his mistakes with Brianna and like doesn't do that behavior anymore going forward. So maybe he opened up to her about like how he's learned and he's gotten help and he's better and he's.

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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Like he's not the one who's going to be like, oh, I need to like hide this relationship for privacy reasons.

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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allegedly like so I think they're both moving on and he's he clearly doesn't give a fuck we've seen that all along so why start now you know okay

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E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH

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Weren't you Team Rose, like, die hard when this was happening? Like, weren't you and Ciara, like, literally, fuck, Carolina, this is... Roll the flashbacks. Yeah, wasn't I arguing with you? Yeah.

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Let's do it. Our mutual friend Shug said that you, and I'm going to say like what it is wrong, but you like tie a rope to two mountains and you like free walk or something across it.

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High lining. That's crazy. How did you, it's like, isn't it?

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But it's like, it's based on balance, right? I mean, you have to be.

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What made you want to learn that?

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So you do shower a lot.

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You just don't love soap that much.

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You don't feel like you need to like wash all the salt off. You're kind of like, oh.

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Did you grow up outside and doing a bunch of swimming and hiking and all that kind of stuff?

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Did you grow up in LA?

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It sounds like you're just saying like, you're like mumbling words together, San Luis Obispo. Yeah.

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Real place. Okay, so you grew up there and you grew up doing all of this stuff. Yeah. So this isn't a new thing that you just picked up.

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What extreme sport do you want to try next?

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I'm pretty sure Dean is like, he does it by himself.

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So she got you to watch reality TV. Does she participate in your extreme sports?

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He put you on the spot and I'm like, well, I love them both.

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That's my loyalty.

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Were you proved wrong?

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Like if you say the name of the traitor, you think you'd be safe because why would they come after that person?

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Kind of the same as Sam. Yeah.

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Really? That's so funny. I don't remember saying that at all, but I stand by it clearly. People said that about Nick when he went on Special Forces. I remember being like, oh, my God, he's not going to last a day. He's not going to. And I mean, he ended up winning that show, too.

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So it is funny how people like have this perspective that like you're going to suck and then to like prove them all wrong.

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So what was your strategy going into it?

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Who hurt you the most by betraying you? Was it Boston Rob or Danielle?

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I mean, he left that trader's house feeling respected. Totally.

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The bug challenge with him, was that you picked him to be your teammate?

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Do you see yourself being more of a girl dad or... It's tough.

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Is there anything that you are afraid of? You seem like you really just like go head first into anything, but is there something out there?

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A lifelong friendship with Dolores.

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Did, I mean, it was, I think when you went after Bob the Drag Queen, was his response when he kind of jumped at you and called you, you know, misguided and said your brother sucked at acting or all the, you know, did that kind of make you feel like, you know what?

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How is watching it back then?

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I just had a baby. Wasn't that why you didn't go?

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Did that last argument from Gabby to Danielle kind of win you over in the like, maybe Gabby's not a traitor department?

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Yeah, yeah. And Danielle went after Gabby.

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Was there any split second when she was like begging you to put Ivor's name down instead of hers that you brought it now?

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I know, but it was just the way she's like, Dylan, please, I'm begging you.

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So you believed Danielle's tears the whole time?

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Do you think, I thought in this, the moment with the chess board, obviously, that Carolyn and Danielle were able to manipulate. When she said Tom and Dolores kind of pointed that out and she was like, I'm not saying you're a traitor. She kind of got really defensive. Do you think her getting defensive is what put the target on her back?

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That makes sense. I do feel like if she because Dolores is like, well, you were the first one to say Tom. And she's like, no, I wasn't. I wish I feel like if she would have been like, well, you know, he was really pitching himself and kind of like went along with it instead of getting so defensive. Maybe it wouldn't have been as bad.

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That's how you show it or that's what you want?

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Yeah, I guess that's true.

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Do you have a moment from your childhood that like sticks out as a really good memory?

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Do you agree? Whose side are you on?

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It was maybe 50 steps. Yeah.

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He needed to get the remote.

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But I did carry his child and give birth to her. So I don't really feel like I need to be getting up once I'm in the bed.

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I can put things in the dishwasher.

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Oh my God, when Nick's not there, I feel so free. I'm like, I can put the knife, he'll never know. The knives, the pots, the pans, everything's in the dishwasher.

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Well, we do have a baby that needs to be bathed. So she, that is... It is nice.

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It's so funny. There was some post or something somewhere that was like, what do your husbands or partners do if you're getting ready for a big event at your house? Thanksgiving at your house, you're hosting, whatever. What are your husbands or partners or boyfriends doing to help you? And it was like, mine cleans the garage. Mine goes and gets his car vacuumed.

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It's like this stuff that you're like, no one's going to see that. No one cares, but thanks for getting that done. Yeah. So you're like, I'm refilling the water tank.

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But it is crazy because he loves a maid bed.

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And why Humble Brands over all of the other products on the market? Well, they're aluminum-free and made without artificial fragrances. They're cruelty-free as certified by Leaping Bunny and gives back through 1% for the planet.

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So how did Down to Earth come about? I remember when Nick saw your tagline on Traders, he was like, oh, that's so nice.

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I remember saying, oh, this guy's Down to Earth.

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What made you feel like you weren't ready to be his co-host?

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Is there any and, you know, maybe there's, you know, a lot of people live with no regrets or whatever. But is there any like envy from either of y'all sides for like the life you live? Maybe it's like the childhood you have. Like, did he ever wish he could just like go and play football with his friends and not be on stage and not be performing and like vice versa?

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It's like different obviously with girls, but I have a vivid memory of my sister and her friends being like, don't worry. Like she'll never have as big as boobs as you. And I like one day was like, ah! Here I am, bitch. Back to Down to Earth. So that, it started on YouTube and then where did I watch it on?