Welcome back to The Viall Files: Going Deeper with Alessia Cara! This week, we’re extremely excited to welcome Alessia Cara to the show to discuss her new album Love and Hyperbole! From taking a break from music and complicated feelings around her Grammy win, to dream collaborations and her love of Reality TV, we go deeper into all of it. You won’t want to miss! “The things we’re taught about love are so strange.” Listen to Humble Brag with Cynthia Bailey and Crystal Kung Minkoff! Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/humble-brag-with-crystal-and-cynthia/id1774286896 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@humblebragpod Listen To Disrespectfully now! Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disrespectfully/id1516710301 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCh8MqSsiGkfJcWhkan0D0w Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/ To Order Nick’s Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com If you would like to get some texting advice on Office Hours send an email to [email protected] with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on the show, contact [email protected] or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TheViallFiles Thank You to Our Sponsors: True Classic - Level up your date night or everyday style with clothes that actually fit right. Just go to our exclusive link at https://trueclassic.com/viall to save. Chewy - Chewy has everything you need to keep your pet happy and healthy. And right now you can save $20 on your first order and get free shipping by going to https://chewy.com/viall Factor - Eat smart with Factor. Get started at https://factormeals.com/factorpodcast and use code FACTORPODCAST to get 50% off your first box plus free shipping. Fabric - Join the thousands of parents who trust Fabric to help protect their family. Start investing in your child today at meet https://fabric.com/viall Shopify - Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at https://shopify.com/viall Function Health - Function currently has a waitlist, but they are offering my audience the chance to skip it! Head to https://www.functionhealth.com/VIALL or enter code VIALL when signing up to skip the waitlist! Timestamps: (00:00) - Intro (01:10) - New Album (07:54) - Childhood Ambitions (10:18) - Big Moments (12:54) - Laying Low (18:25) - VDay (27:58) - Love And Music (45:25) - Fanbase (55:36) - Logic (01:00:07) - Favorite Songs (01:01:01) - Reality TV (01:06:38) - Debut Album (01:13:05) - Comforts (01:14:39) - Outro Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @nnataliejjoy @alessiamusic @justinkaphillips @leahgsilberstein @dereklanerussell
Chapter 1: How did Alessia Cara start her music career?
So it was very cool.
Mine too. I was definitely very nervous and I didn't really, I didn't never been on a stage before, like wearing an earpiece. Like it's really kind of fascinating, like how much you can't like hear the crowd.
Oh yeah. You're like in your own little zone.
It's wild. Yeah. I was like, I couldn't hear you. You almost like couldn't hear yourself talking unless you're talking to the mic. It was a little trippy, but yeah.
That's so cool. Oh my gosh. Well, I'm honored to be your first, your first onstage moment.
It was. Yeah. Are we ready to rock and roll?
Well, Alessia, welcome to The Vile Files. Excited to be with you.
Thank you. I'm excited to be here.
Congratulations, obviously, on your release. Happy Valentine's Day.
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Chapter 2: What inspired Alessia Cara's new album, Love and Hyperbole?
I just miss like walking to get a coffee and walking my dog and like doing regular things. I know that sounds kind of cheesy and weird, but it's the truth. Like those things really valid. They really fuel you and they make you feel better, you know, when you need that. So I just was missing that. And I just kind of developed a little bit of resentment, I think, for the industry.
And I just was like, what do I want to say? Do I even want to say anything else? Do I want to be here? I had to just reshape like how I felt about myself as an artist and where I wanted to go, if I even wanted to continue or not. And I had to just find it again on my own terms, I think.
There were moments of maybe deciding to hang it up, so to speak, and do something else in between?
I think so, yeah. For a little bit, I was like, I don't know if I want to keep doing this anymore for a few different reasons. That was just an internal conversation that I was having. Yeah. I don't know why. I don't know exactly what it was. I think I fell out of love with it for a second. Not so much music, but the industry itself. Because it's so ever-changing. It's so challenging.
There's a lot of things that are difficult about it. And I just felt for a while, like, is the juice worth the squeeze here? What's the purpose in it? So I had to just find that and rediscover my love for music and why I started in the first place. And I had to start it on my own terms, not because I felt the pressure to or because I felt like it's what I had to do. I just...
Wanted to miss it, you know?
Yeah. Did you get as far as, like, thinking about what you would do?
A little bit. And I've thought about that now, too, because I don't, you know, this I don't think will be forever. You know, careers have peaks and valleys. It's bold of me to assume that I'll still be, like, doing this at, you know, any sort of level forever. So I have thought about that. I mean, I would love to...
It's hard because this is kind of the same industry, but I've always wanted to do acting or like at least like maybe write for like TV or movies or do like screenplays and stuff. But I guess it's still in the same industry. So I don't know. But that would be really fun. It's hard when you've been in the public to do something that's not in the public.
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Chapter 3: How does Alessia Cara handle imposter syndrome?
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Chapter 5: How does Alessia Cara balance personal life with fame?
like stevie nicks would be like this is like shooting for the stars like stevie nicks stevie wonder all the stevies i love both stevie nicks could be i can see you yeah the voices would be fun i love her yeah she's an idol of mine that would be so cool and when you were working with john do you guys talk about you know because you wrote this album he obviously does a lot of writing for his stuff do you guys not only talk about just the music in general but the writing process
For sure. Yeah, yeah. He's been really, really cool to me. And I've gathered so many little like gems through our conversations about songwriting and about music that I've taken with me. You know, he was like the first and only person who said, you know, like, Just like tell the story, say the thing.
Don't try to impress yourself as a writer, which is so interesting because I do feel like when you're a writer, you try to say the thing in the most interesting way. And like, how can I be different? And you tend to overcomplicate things. And him just saying, just say the thing, say, or I don't know if that's exactly how he said it. I'm probably butchering his beautiful words, but.
Yeah, he was like, just don't try to impress yourself, you know, just say it as it is. And oftentimes the simplest thing will be the thing that hits the most. And I always take that with me. And it's so true. Like, that's the stuff, the lyric that you think is like a throwaway or like, oh, maybe that's too simple.
It's always the one that like gets to people in the core, you know, because you're talking, you're speaking universally. You're not just like trying to do a magic trick, you know, with your words, you know.
You mentioned Obvious as one of your favorites on the album. What are some of the other ones that you've gone back to and it really connects with you? You must love them all, but do you have ones that are at the top?
I think it changes. I do love this song called Fire. That's one of my favorites. It's one of those songs that just fell out of all of us. We put a mic in the middle of the room. It was John Levine, Jake Torrey, and I on a few different instruments. I had a mic and we just looped this same few chords over and over again until the song just came out.
There's like an hour recording somewhere of this time. But yeah, it was one of those songs that just came out and it was like strictly intuitive, nothing analytical about it. And I think that's why it just feels really special. So every time I listen to it, it just, I don't know, it just feels like it comes from a different place inside me.
I don't know how to explain it, but yeah, I love that song.
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