
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Thu, 27 Feb 2025
Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap! Nick finally gets to address the DM’s as Chanel Ayan joins for an incredible interview! She gets into Traitors, traveling with Will Smith, hot men, and more. Also, Lauren joins to give her perspective on the great Love Is Blind Dave and Lauren debate. Plus, we get into Karen Huger’s sentencing, White Lotus, Kate Hudson flirting with everyone, and more! You will definitely not want to miss it… “They killed me because they were jealous.” Subscribe to The ENVY Media Newsletter Today: https://www.viallfiles.com/newsletter OUT NOW! Listen to Humble Brag with Cynthia Bailey and Crystal Kung Minkoff. Available wherever you get your podcasts and YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@humblebragpod https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/humble-brag-with-crystal-and-cynthia/id1774286896 Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/ Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to [email protected] to be a part of our Monday episodes. Follow us on X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheViallFiles Listen To Disrespectfully now! Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disrespectfully/id1516710301 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0J6DW1KeDX6SpoVEuQpl7z?si=c35995a56b8d4038 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCh8MqSsiGkfJcWhkan0D0w To Order Nick’s Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com If you would like to get some texting advice on Office Hours send an email to [email protected] with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on the show, contact [email protected] or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TheViallFiles THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Kikoff - Building credit can happen faster than you expect with Kikoff. Don’t wait! Must sign up via https://getkikoff.com/viall to activate offer. Nutrafol - Start your hair growth journey with Nutrafol. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to https://nutrafol.com and enter the promo code VIALL Bombas - Head over to https://bombas.com/viall and use code viall for 20% off your first purchase. Timestamps: (00:00) - Intro (01:56) - Household Headlines (16:55) - RHOBH (28:05) - Lauren From Love Is Blind Interview (50:11) - Love Is Blind (56:19) - Ayan Interview (01:09:34) - Traitors (01:19:12) - Important Issue (01:28:31) - More Traitors (01:30:30) - Housewives (01:35:28) - Outro Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @nnataliejjoy @chanelayan @laurenmariaobrien @ciaracrobinson @justinkaphillips @the_mare_bare @leahgsilberstein @dereklanerussell
Chapter 1: What are the latest headlines in reality TV?
And who did? She did listen to our debate.
She did listen to our debate.
So she does have a take on our debate.
Yeah, no.
She does say she loves me.
Anyway, so that is coming up shortly. Lots of good information from Lauren. And yeah, I'm excited for you guys to hear that. Then we have the very iconic Chanel Ion.
I can't wait to ask her, is it Ion? Are we calling her Ion or Chanel?
Is it Ion? Is it Chanel? I don't know. She obviously, shortly, recently, on her way here, literally on her way here, she was on a flight with the one and only Will Smith, posted a picture with him. As she often does, she gave her input and opinion on Mr. Smith himself. So very excited to talk to her about all things Will Smith.
Do you think he's been forgiven for slapping Chris Rocker now?
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Chapter 2: What is Chanel Ayan's experience on Traitors?
Chapter 3: What is the controversy surrounding Love Is Blind?
Because she posted one pic of her blonde hair. With blonde hair.
With some Y2K stickers on it. It's going to be a no from me, dog. I don't think they can do someone from England to play Brittany. I'm sure she has a great little Southern, but no, come on.
We just talked about last, on Tuesday, how brilliantly Jason Isaacs is playing Thomas Ravenel. Speaking of White Lotus, though, Chris Pratt is super into his brother-in-law's cock.
They're not blood, so. They're not blood. They can be. Sometimes when people say things publicly.
He didn't say cock. He said dick.
Dick.
For some reason, that word will always be jarring to me.
He said that dick.
But it wasn't a prosthetic. It was Patrick Schwarzenegger's real dick. Good for him. Yeah, he said, I know where my eyes went.
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Chapter 4: How does Kate Hudson view flirting?
Chapter 5: What are the recent developments in White Lotus?
I remember thinking like, okay, we'll get married, we'll break up or we'll not get married, but we'll stay together. And all of those at the time felt like potential next steps for us. But yeah, marriage was definitely on the table for sure for me.
Watching it back, that hole in the kitchen where you're kind of cooking, preparing for the friends and this kind of all explodes, watching it back, did you have any like regrets of what you wish you would have said or wouldn't have said?
Honestly, no, because I think looking back, like I tried to explain things in so many different ways and tried to really understand his perspective and then like speak to that. Yeah. I think at that point there was nothing I could have said or done differently to have Dave see it.
I will say, I feel like the fact that he couldn't, you being so vulnerable and saying like, I'm feeling really disconnected from you. Can you please stay here tonight? And him saying no, I think was the biggest sign of like, this man should not be your husband.
Yeah. And that has been pretty jarring to watch back. And it happens too when he meets my friends and I get emotional and there's not a lot of comfort happening. And I felt that in the moment. And it's really sad to watch it back and feel that again.
It's interesting because I completely agree with Natalie with that statement. But if I'm still trying to empathize with this whole situation. Like, I think two things can be true at the same time. Like I can understand Dave having a hard time processing this rumor. Cause that's what it is.
You know, rumor, you know, which has like maybe some truth to it, but obviously it's, it's, it's coming from someone who obviously is, has an alternative agenda and things like that. But to Nally's point, regardless of what the truth is, Dave is,
demonstrated you know basically an inability to cope while struggling with his own emotions and needing to be there for his partner who's also struggling and he was basically saying i need to be alone so that i can figure this out and regardless of what you're going through like that not my problem because my problem is your you you know it's like my needs come first sorry yeah correct yeah and
Yeah, for sure. And I remember thinking too, like your friends are giving you this whole different narrative. And every time you talk to them, you get like more angry at me or more confused about the situation. So if you and I are supposed to be a team, why are we continuing to go back to those people and have the same conversations that are not productive at all?
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