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Chanel Ayan

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The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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I mean, rarely do you get a housewife that is like, you know what? I was wrong.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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Which is interesting. And Sutton thinks Mo planted the story to get back at Kyle for... The War of Roses. But they're on good terms.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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According to Kyle and Mo, not according to Sutton, I guess.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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One of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life. Oh, he said he was sorry. Well, thank God he said he was sorry.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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I think the Oscars would do much better in ratings if it was also WWE Smackdown. For sure. Like, I want to see Timothee Chalamet go up against the brutalist guy.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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I want Club Chalamet to throw hands in the audience. Is he nominated for anything? Timothee?

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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Yeah. Best actor for everything. Oh, Club Chalamet has been... For what?

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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They're not blood, so. They're not blood. They can be. Sometimes when people say things publicly.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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I was more focused on like. I watched it while you were at work. I was more focused on, like, the brother being kind of into it. And I don't know what's going on with these siblings. Yeah. Was he kind of into it? He was definitely into it. He was having... That's weird. It's a little ass shot. It's Mike White.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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I wonder how many subscribers he got. It's a tough look. Tough, yeah. That's tough. Do you think he got the platinum thing? I sure hope so.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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I'm over this whole, like, incestual... Mike White has said that this family... Well, after the, like, inside the episode thing, Parker Posey was saying that Mike White...

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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Okay, but maybe it was a I'm going on the show. We're not going to see each other anymore ice cream. Yeah, like I leave on Tuesday.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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I will say Lauren and Jax Taylor do not have much in common.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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had told her that this family was monkeys it's representative of monkeys and like physical aggression and stuff like that which okay there's been a lot of monkeys in pop culture recently did mike white watch chimp crazy i need to know if mike white watched him crazy I'm crazy. I loved that.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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Yeah, I feel like my biggest issue with Dave was not that he was frustrated with Lauren having someone before the show, like less of the sex thing and more of just he didn't believe her when she told him. It's not like she was being cagey. It very much presented itself as like she is telling the truth from her perspective. And this is someone this is a firsthand account of what happens.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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Her friends are corroborating this and he is just completely not seeing her.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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But even then, Sarah, like, here it all is. Even then, Sarah saw Ben and was like, I'm taking what you're saying into consideration while also like taking what this girl is saying into consideration. And Dave just like was not taking Lauren's words into consideration at all is what it read to me as.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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It didn't say YouTube. It said YouTuber. I'm going to make a theory.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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So my real name is Ayan, which means lucky because my mom had nine girls and one boy.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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Yeah. So we're 11. But my father has like 30-something kids. My father fucked everybody in the village.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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Yeah. So that's normal in my village. Right. So then Chanel, I gave it to myself because I watched a movie about Chanel and her life story was basically a little bit like mine where like her dad lived in the same town, but had another family, but never cared about them. So I kind of was like, oh, that's so cool. So I just named my name Chanel Ayan. So it stuck.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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why would you? You look good. By the way, I bullied your husband one time. Oh my gosh.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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I'll tell you first. And I just saw him walked out to say hi. And literally, I was like, He's the most good looking man I have ever seen in America. By the way, my husband is very hot. He's from Idaho.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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No, no, no, no. You see, I left you to read my stuff that I said about you till 2017 because I'm a real bitch. So I wanted you to see what I felt at that moment. But yeah, why did I say that to you? I'm not going to lie. I don't remember. But the truth is I was in Idaho and I was bored in my family's cabin and you came on TV. Okay.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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And I was just like, okay, he's young and you are with my favorite human being that said I was the most nicest person he's ever met in his life beside his wife. Wells. Yes, I love him so much. So anyways.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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Yes, he's such a kind soul. But we'll get to know each other. I'll decide later. But so far, I feel like you're great.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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You can tell. You really can tell. Your eyes are kind. Yes. Okay. When he loves you, he loves you.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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Same. I really have no time because I feel like life is so short. And also I think because the way I grew up, it's like I grew up in a very small village. Nobody has left my village except my family. And I grew up in a very abusive home. And I grew up with a single mom. So I saw a lot of things. So I have no time for bullshit or bad energy. You get what you see. If I like you, you will know.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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If I don't like you, you will know immediately. I'm very outspoken. Are you like that? Yeah, I think so. I love that. I think so. Yes.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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Yes. And I actually, I, like Karen Huga. I know something's happening with her today. But when I first met her at BravoCon, because I watched her and I was like, oh my God, you know, she's a very strong woman, very opinionated. And when I met her, she was such a soft, soft person, very kind, very welcoming. You know, whatever she's going through right now, it's really hard to see where she is.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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And I wish her nothing but the best in life. And I think she has time to process things that she's going through and come out in a better way.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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Yeah, I don't think there's alcohol in jail. So I think it's a good thing that she will, like, you know, be better. I wish her nothing but the best.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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No. So she actually reached out to me a long time ago. She wanted to visit Dubai with her daughter, who's beautiful. Love her. Met her in BravoCon. So she asked me about Dubai and I was hoping she would come. But like I said, she's a really nice human being. You know, apart from when you see on TV and you see like, okay, these people are crazy, but she's actually really down to earth.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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She's very open. She's very loving. So with that, I just feel like that's one of them. Nini Licks. Love her. Like a really good friend now. Because when you see people on TV, you're like, oh, my God, they're so tough. Kenya Moore, you know. And you're like, oh, wow, they're actually like really girls, girls, you know. So, yeah. Yeah and with you we'll see the more we keep going.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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I love that too. So you grew up in Kenya? Yes, I grew up in Kenya until I was 18 and then I met my husband from Boise, Idaho. How did you meet him? I met him in a restaurant and he told me he was American and immediately I was like I'm gonna marry him because I wanted his passport.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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Yeah. So he was in Kenya. So he was in Kenya visiting and I was like, I saw him. He was so hot. So the first time I ever saw a white person, I was nine years old in my village. So I didn't know white people existed. And the first time I watched a movie was a Van Damme movie. And he was so hot. Yeah. Yeah. He was so good looking with muscles. and everything.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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So when I met my husband, I'll send you the picture when I met my husband, okay? And he literally looked like him. And I was just like, wow, where are you from? He goes, I'm American. I was like, ooh, darling.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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He became hotter and hotter because I don't believe in people marrying for love. Okay. I think that you should marry for, because love comes later. Okay. Because when I first met my husband, I'm not going to say like, oh my God, I was in love immediately. I married 26 years. Because when you fall in love immediately, I'm like, I love this person immediately. I feel like it's more like a lust.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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then you fall in love. But also because I grew up really in a bad home. So for me, I wanted a good life because I saw my mom struggling a lot. So I always wanted to have the best. Okay, we're still married 26 years. Okay. That's incredible. Yeah, happily married. We have a gorgeous son who's 18 going to college. So, yeah.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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Thank you. Are you good, right? Yeah, you know. Thank you. It's black, don't crack. Yeah.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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No. Yeah. Are you sure? Yeah. I did a test in my show. They said I was 50 years old.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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Yes. Yes. But it's just easy. It's like I do a lot of things that I saw my culture people do that's cheap. Like what? Give us some tips. So literally, you know turmeric? Yes. Yeah. So I just put turmeric and honey once a week on my face because it removes inflammation. It makes your skin glowing. And it's just like literally costing nothing.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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I love that. So it's turmeric and honey. Yeah, just put turmeric and honey. But you have gorgeous skin. Well, no, seriously. You have great skin. Thank you. Thank you.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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I will. Yeah, that's it. Like I just do that and I try to drink a lot of water. And also, like, it's very important to... Do you talk about sex in your podcast? Oh, you can say whatever you want. Oh, yeah. It's very important to fuck. Like, it's so good for your body, for your mind, for your health. So that helps a lot. You know what I mean? How many times a week do you and your sister have sex?

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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Oh, we don't have a schedule. Like, I'm not going to lie. It's like, when it happens, it happens. When you're on a heat, you just... When you're on heat. Yeah, no, for sure.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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How did you approach him? So actually, this is what happened. I was in first class, okay? And Maria told me, oh my God, did you see Will Smith just came into the plane? And I was like, really? And he goes, yeah, but he locked his cabinet. So it's 15 and a half hours flight. And his cabinet was next to mine.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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So I didn't sleep on the plane because I was waiting for him to wake up so I can say hello, take pictures, ask questions. Because I have questions. I have deep questions that I need to know because I'm a nosy bitch. So I kept looking at his phone and then he slept for 10 hours. And then the next five hours he woke up and he went to take a shower. Because there's a shower in the first class.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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So I was waiting and then he passed and he waved at me. I was like, okay, we're going to be friends. We're going to talk. So by the time I went to talk to him, I know his son, Jaden, because my son models and we were together in London. So that was easy saying, hey, I know your son. How are you doing? And I was like, I love The Pursuit of Happiness, my favorite movie.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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I met my son watching like 10 times. And then we talked about Traitors. I asked him about Men in Black. And he was like, he was so good. Did you ask anything about the slap at the Oscars? No, no, because I didn't ask him about that. But I feel like that was a planned situation.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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because there's a lot of uh illuminati stuff in here in hollywood it's my first time in hollywood by the way the first time yeah first time and my husband was born here but i've never been because they live in idaho so usually i just fly through the airport and go to idaho so i've never really like seen la like this is my first time and you guys have a lot going on there's a lot going on people live on the streets yeah where i'm staying it's not perfect

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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No, why? We're humans and we should, like, it's really so sad. And I don't know, they're like frozen. We don't have that in Dubai. You don't? No, not at all. You'd never see that. I mean, also in Africa, I'm not going to lie. You know, in America, they like to do these movies like, oh, in Africa, people are starving. There's no food. There's no this. It's all persona.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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I mean, there are some places that are not like that, but we have a lot of wealthy people in Africa. Right. But even when I go home, I don't get to see that. So I was a bit shocked yesterday.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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So in Dubai, usually you can't live in Dubai if you cannot afford to live in Dubai. Okay. You just cannot live in Dubai.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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No, it's not all rich people. It's everybody with a job. Because you need to get a visa to live there. You have to do your medical. You have to have, like I said, a job. So you have to have that. It's very important. You have to have medical insurance to live in Dubai. So there's so many rules that you have to have to live there.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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So, for example, if you lose your job, it's very tough because it's a very expensive city. You know, you have to live.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a lot of money in Dubai. People make a lot of money in Dubai.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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Oh, with my husband. So when I married my husband when I was 18... for opportunities okay so make it clear it's for opportunities I love her you know because I don't feel like I don't think like women should marry somebody and struggle you know what I mean I feel like women should marry somebody that can take care of them

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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okay be the breadwinner that's in my culture maybe it's different i come from a culture that men take care of their wives and children the south it's like that too i'm from the south yeah it's similar to that yeah oh cool i've never been i want to go it's where where in south savannah georgia beautiful that's atlanta right close like three hours away okay okay okay okay cool yeah i love shultan people i love how they speak i love the accent everything yeah give it a little some

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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Yeah. So what was the question again? How did you end up in Dubai? Oh, yeah. So then when I married my husband, we moved to Brazil and I was going to marry my cousin. My cousin was very good looking. There was no problem with me not marrying my cousin. It's part of my culture. And then when I met my husband, I was like, oh, my God, he literally reminds me of Vandam.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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So I was like, like, this is my dream. You know, I want to marry him. I want to get out of my village. I want to have better opportunities in life. So we moved to Brazil, got married in Brazil. And then from Brazil, we moved to Dubai. And then I went to Idaho. And then I didn't know that Idaho. So I thought America is LA in the movies and New York. Yeah. Like big houses.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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Like my husband's family had a big house. Okay. But like you see a lot of people. When I moved to Idaho, literally 20 something years, I couldn't find black people. Uh-huh. So I was like, there was no black people in Idaho. Like when I found one, I was so excited. We became best friends. Like we're still friends till today. Like we became best friends. I was like, oh, my God.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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You know, but it was so cute because I was so young. Everybody was very friendly in Idaho. They are very welcoming. So that's how I ended up in. Yeah. See, I got confused. Dubai. Okay. Yeah.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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Jealousy. Honestly, it was jealousy. You can see, like, Carolyn did an interview and said that I was funny whether I was on camera or off camera. And Bob the Drag Queen, actually, I love him. The moment I saw him, I was like, obsessed. He's so tall, right? And he's funny, too, you know? And we were having fun with everybody.

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But I could just feel, honestly, every five seconds, he's like, you're so funny. You're really, really funny. You were competition. Everybody likes you. And everybody likes me because when everybody died, I'm not kidding you, most of the cast reached out to say hi, saying that they missed me when I left because it was a bit boring when I left because I was making them have fun, you know.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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Can we stop this conversation and get into Kate Hudson flirting with everybody? Yeah, I really want you guys' opinion on this. Kate Hudson has admitted that she flirts with everybody, but her fiance is okay with it. I'm the biggest flirt on the planet, so I think anybody who's ever been with me is very aware I flirt with everybody. Girls, boys, thank God Danny is my partner. He can handle this.

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And I really worked hard to stay, you know, because at one point when we did the Roro on the boat. Mm hmm. I thought I was going to die because I didn't understand what was going on. So Wells, my bestie for life, was helping me to understand the game. Because I got the show four days before I arrived. And they don't show traitors in Dubai. So I saw clips of Fedra.

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So I never watched the whole entire show. So I remember I messaged Andy and I was like, Andy, by the way, I just got traitors. He goes, I know. And I was like, but I've never watched the show. He goes, what do you mean? He goes, what do you mean? I'm like... He's like, you have to watch the show. I'm like, I'm already in Scotland. I just landed in Scotland.

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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Because when I was reached out and they called me like, do you want to do Traitors? I was like, yes. I'm excited because I saw clips of Federer. She's iconic. Yes. Hate the bitch. Love the bitch, you know? Yes. But... So she was iconic, right? So I was like, yeah, I want to do it. So when I got to the house, I was like, Wells, we need to be careful. The dead man is going to kill us.

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Wells is like, who is the dead man? I'm like, the dead man that's going to come at night when we go to sleep, he's going to kill us. And he was like, oh my God, Ayaan, there's no dead man here. I'm like, no, we die. Okay. So they did my will murder us. So when we came from robot, right. I was like, oh my God, I did not know I was going to die. So I was really crazy. So we were in this room. Right.

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And I was like to everybody, it was, I think it was, I don't remember except I think it was Wells, Dylan, Derek, Danielle. I don't know if Bob the Bracken saw it, maybe, I don't know, but there was a group of people, so I went to them. Guys, seriously, I cannot die, okay? I worked harder than a prostitute in that castle. I was like, have you guys ever seen an African boobs in your life?

The Viall Files

E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus

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Like, I'm sure you've seen on TV, but you've never seen a real one, okay? So I just showed them my boobs. To everybody, okay? Which is crazy because I'm married, but I have very good boobs. That's how I got my husband. Because of my boobs. They're at 12 o'clock, like literally. They're standing and I've breastfed for years. So I was there, right?

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And I was like, have you guys seen the... So I showed them my boobs. And then I didn't die. And then I was like, great, my boobs worked.

The Viall Files

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I love them. Yeah, I know. I love them. They really are. I made really good friends there. So what was their reaction?

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No, because they were just laughing because I'm crazy naturally.

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Uh... Maybe I did a bit of bouncing, but they did see it. They did definitely see the boobs. Yeah, they did. And they literally said, I know for a fact they all told me my boobs looks great. They killed me because they were jealous.

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Yes, but the traitors didn't want to kill me. So I know the story what happened, okay? Because I was mad as fuck, right? And I knew that Danielle and... And Bob were traitors before I died, which they didn't air to show it. Because when I went in, I didn't know it. But my instincts are very, very good. So I could feel like Bob kept on telling me, you're so funny. You're so funny.

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Everybody loves you. But he would ignore me all day and treat me a little bit like shit. Uh-huh. And I was like, okay, whatever. So I became friends with Wells. A lot of Wells was like my friend in the house. Dylan was my very good friend. Brittany was my very good friend. Danielle was my friend because Dylan made me be friends with her. And of course, I'm friends with Dolores, Robin.

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You know what I mean? Like, I know the girls. I know Dolores for years, you know? So... When I died, I knew immediately it was Bob. But then Rob told me, because I messaged Rob, who thinks probably I'm a psychopath. And I'm okay with Rob thinking that. Because when he died, I messaged him every other day. Out of nowhere, just like you, I'd be like, why did you kill me? To Rob.

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Ayan, you really have to watch it. I'm like, yeah, you know, I really love you. I'm like, that's not the point. Three days later, I'm like, Rob, why did you kill me? Did he ever give you an answer? He told me, I didn't want to kill you. And I do know that he didn't want to kill me because I watched it. But I know for a fact, because I'm a nosy person and I needed to find out what happened.

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Bob came in and was like this, stood there immediately and said, Ayan has to die here and after and forever. She's got to go. You know, he was so insistent. And, you know, they shot two seconds of it. But the traders told me he was so insistent about me dying that they had no choice. They gave up. But Caroline didn't want to kill me. Rob didn't want to kill me. Daniela was supposed to be my girl.

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You know, I mean, honestly, fuck her. Because I was closer to her than anyone else in the traitors. So Bob was just like, she's got to go. She's got to go. But the good thing happened, which they didn't show. I went to Wells and said to Wells, we don't trust Bob the drag queen. And Wells was like, yeah, we don't. Okay. That was before we went to the counter table.

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And then when they killed my friend, okay, I was in pain. I was in pain. I cried so much. I was so sad because Wells is such a kind-hearted human being. When I tell you he was there for me, he was really there for me. Even Dylan was there for me a lot, okay, and Robin. So when I died, when Wells died, I went and I told Dylan and Robin that 100% Bob is a traitor. Traitor.

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So I was in a car with Bob and Wes. Oh f**k I hate Wes too. Because Wes made me run for him. You know when they were in the thing. So nobody wanted to give Wes the gold. So Wes, I felt like, you know what, he looks like a serial killer. Because he has bald headed with the red thing. So that's why I asked him if he's on TikTok because I saw some crime show that looked a little bit like him.

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So I was like, okay, are you on TikTok? He goes, no. So I don't know if he's still on TikTok. Actually, I think I asked him recently. He's still not on TikTok. But then I gave him all my coins. And then he said, I'll give you the shield. So I was like, great. I'm safe. The boob saved me. And now my Kenyan running skills just saved me. So I'm not going to die.

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No, no. Never run for any money in my life, including my husband. If he goes to me, go to the kitchen. I'm like, bruh, walk. So I was running for wealth like crazy, picking up stuff. And then, oh, fucking Tom Sandoval. You know, you had to hit these things for the gold to come down. So I was hitting it, hitting it. My gold came down.

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And this grown-ass man ran and grabbed my gold and ran away with it. And I was like, you fucking cheater. Tom stole it? Yes, he stole my gold.

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He stole my gold. So I was so mad about it. And I was like, okay, he's just a cheater. Even when the game he cheated on a girl. Okay. And I was like, and I never ran before. Okay. So I said to Wells, which it didn't air. I said, Wells, I have never run for nobody in my life. Okay. I'm a fucking supermodel. Okay. And here I'm running for you. You better give me that shield.

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He's like, I'll give it to you. Okay. Wow. Never fucking gave it to me because if he gave me, I would have been saved. Right. Okay. And so I went to him and I said, hey, do you want to give me the shield that you promised me? He's like, yeah, we'll talk about it. And I never had to.

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Yeah, exactly. And I'm the one that literally ran for him. Right. Yeah. You know, so that was fucked up. So fuck you, bitch. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah.

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No, no, no. He's not really on my radar. Yeah. Not really interested.

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Yes. I saw him here. He was here, yes. Yeah, so cute. Because I tried to ask him so many questions about Britney in the house. And he literally would not answer. So the fact that I saw he opened up here, I really like that.

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Yeah, I really like that because I try to get everything because I'm a conspiracy theorist, okay? So some people are like, maybe Britney is not the Britney dancing. There's an AI, you know? So sometimes I'm like looking into it to see, is it really the AI? Because I'm a conspiracy theorist naturally. But so I was wanting to know more about it, you know? And I was asking because I love Britney.

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Like I said on the show, I love Britney. I love everything about that girl. But he wouldn't say anything. So it was nice to hear him talk about it here.

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So in my culture, they circumcise girls and it's a very normal thing, right? So when I was five years old, I was circumcised. It's called female genital mutilation, right? And what are they? They circumcise you. There's different types. So there's one that they cut your clitoris. There's one they sew you in. So for me, I was sewn so I couldn't pee. I could pee, but it takes me longer.

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And then when I had period, it was the worst experience of my life. ever like until now I have like coming from a very abusive father like I got the most abused out of him than anyone in my family you know I have broken bones like I literally have this here that he kicked me, you know? This going through in my life, it's like, that's why maybe I see things differently in life.

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And so you have a lot of people that can have babies, depression, which I go through sometimes. You have people that, like girls die so young. And there's six countries now in Africa that just decided that they want to bring it back. Wow. Yeah, like it's normal. So for example, like a three-year-old girl that doesn't know anything, there's no anesthesia. Yeah. There's nothing.

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They tied you in the bed. You don't know what's going on. And then when you get married, like I was lucky. My husband paid for me to be open a hospital. But a lot of girls in my culture don't get that. You have to go through your husband with your son for years. And it's very painful. And they don't take it seriously because the reason is like you have to get married when you're a virgin.

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That's the thing about it, right? So it's about virginity because the fathers want to get the cows. They want to get the dowry because it's a big deal in our culture to get dowries. And if you get married in our culture, they have to make sure that you bleed to be a virgin. I know it's like 2025, but it's happening right now as we speak. Wow.

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So for me, it's so important for me, but also it's like a taboo where sometimes I feel like I'm embarrassed to talk about it because I don't want people to see me like that's who I am. But then because I'm a mother, I'm a businesswoman. Why would you be embarrassed?

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Because it's like something that's so kept and hidden. And then like when I talk about it, I get bullied online a lot about it. I get called prostitute, which is like D-Law. I get like, we don't claim you. We don't want you. They would literally go really deep into bullying me and things like that. And it's sometimes like you're just like, oh, all I'm trying to do is save the girls. Yeah.

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Because I'm not on the planet just to be beautiful and argue with people to get paid on the show, stuff like that. There's more to me than that. This is something that I care about so much. So I actually started a... makeup line called Iron Beauty. And actually right now we have a blush that's dedicated to female genital mutilation and proceed goes to that and try to bring awareness to it.

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Cause I feel like no one is talking about it. Of course we do have, I do have few Somali friends of mine that are famous, but they cannot talk about it because it's very, you get bullied for it. They're scared to talk about it. Yeah. They're very, very scared to talk about it. You know,

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Like, I couldn't go home, like, my castmates know this, Carol and somebody knows this, like, Sarah, like, they know it because I showed them the messages. I couldn't go home to pick my mom who has dementia because she cannot fly by herself because my dad had put, like, a lot of threats, you know? And it's, like, very bad threats, you know? So that affected me with my mom.

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So as much as I'm opening about it, I'm talking about it, I also know it puts a really bad situation on me. I haven't gone home for eight months to nine months because I'm scared to go home. I'm so sorry. Yeah, because I'm so scared.

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How old were you? When I left. Because when you're raised in an environment that you think it's normal, you don't see it not being normal. And I don't know if I should say this, but I was, I think, 18. And one of my very good friends from Brazil was very open-minded about sex, which I find is so weird because in my culture, we're not that open-minded about sex.

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It's like women, you're not supposed to talk about sex. You're just supposed to lay down, carry babies, and shut up. That's your job, right? So she was very open about sex. She was like, I'm dating this guy. Oh, I broke up with this guy. I'm with a new guy. I'm with this near the new guy. I'm going on a date. And I thought that was so fascinating for me coming from my village.

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We're like, you need to be home at five. If you're five, that at home, my mom will beat you. Cause where are you? You know? And I wasn't, and I, you know, I've already, I'm halfway through. I just can't say it. Like my mom would be like, did you, did anybody touch you? You know, like open your legs, you know, and they would check because yeah, if you're okay and stuff like that, you know, and yeah,

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And so when she was so outgoing and she was so dating and I thought that was, wow, people really do this? This is a different world, you know? And then she was talking about porn and she was like, yeah. And I was like, what the hell is that? So when I watched it and then I saw, oh, my body part doesn't look the same as these girls. That's how you found out? That's how I found out.

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I was like, oh, wow, it's so different. Then it hit my head. And I was like, oh, my God, this is so different from what I know. Because she had, I don't know how I'm going to go too far, but she had lips and I don't have that. So I was like, oh, my God, people are like, why is it so different? Then I was like, oh, then it... You block it when you're young, you know?

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And then everybody's normal around you. And then I was like, oh, shit, this is not normal. Because I had to go through again to the doctor to open it. And then I had my son, which was already another torture because you have to go through it. So basically, yeah, my vagina has been through a lot. I'm sorry, I'm laughing, but it's my coping mechanism. I always laugh at things.

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So that's why it's like so important for me to talk about it because I really, especially six countries bringing it back. New York Times wrote about it recently that they're bringing it back and it breaks my heart. It really breaks my heart.

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Yeah, a lot of people don't know it exists. And it's just worse to me, like, as child trafficking to me, it's really worse. And people don't know about it. Because imagine, do you have kids? Yeah, I have a daughter, one year old. Oh, wow. Yeah. That's beautiful. Yeah. See, she's safe. This is why I like, I want girls to be safe like that. That's my priority in life.

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So when I found out, I went, I was in Brazil, went back home and I was telling my cousins, you know, this is not normal. Like, why can't you know, we're not allowed to talk to boys because of the dowry situation. And also in my culture, it's like, They really talk, you know, and they can ruin your name by being like, oh, we saw her with a boy.

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And then immediately the whole village and the clans think like, oh, my God, she's done something. Then you're losing your bank account for your family. Right. Because dowry is so important. You know what I mean? Like my husband paid for my dowry. Because it's like in my- Custom, yeah. It's a custom, you know? So when I went back, I told them. They were like, what do you mean it's not normal?

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I was like, yeah, I watched this. Like, what? That's haram because we're Muslim. Like, that's not okay. But also, you mentioned you're Catholic. I actually went to Catholic school.

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Yeah, it was my fun time ever in my life because I don't know if the Catholic schools in America are the same as Africa. In Africa, we dance in the church. In my culture, you cannot really dance in front. So I've always done things that I'm not supposed to do.

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The father loved me so much that they would allow me to walk through the church and do things like, because I always wanted to be different with different things, you know? So yeah, it's definitely a fucked up situation and I feel like that's my priority in life too. bring awareness to it.

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Yes. I feel like, so I feel like if I keep talking about it, maybe five people will listen to it. Maybe they will talk about it because nobody knows about it. So I'm just like, if they talk about it, maybe more people will talk about it. Maybe we'll save more girls together, right? Because I feel like if by the time, because the other day I woke up and I was like, oh my God, Ayaan,

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You're going to be 16, 10 years. And I started to freak out at 3 a.m. I don't know why God would remind me that in the middle of this. Yeah. You know? So I was like, why? You know, and I was like, but you haven't done enough. You know? So I need to do more. I need to do this. This is my priority in life.

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No. So I was mad, right? And they pissed me off. And honestly, I feel like they really take this job seriously. Yeah, they do. Like they really play this game seriously. Like I want to see fun. You know, I think that's why when I died, they were like, Ayaan, there was so much fun died when you left. You know, Krishal was like, oh my God, you were so fun. When you left, there was no fun.

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Dylan was like, you know, you were so fun. But I love my boy Dylan so much because I treat a lot about him. Because before I left, I told him that Bob was the traitor. And then when I walked into the room, they had my name. And babes, I literally bawled crying. I literally went into like panic attack and cried because I was like, why am I dead? I don't deserve this.

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I'm sure she's being nice to everybody. That's such a power move. You get mad that someone's flirting with her boyfriend and then they start flirting with you too? Yeah.

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I've been entertaining all these people for free in this castle, you know? So I was like, I shouldn't die. But then I started telepathing to Dylan because I believe in telepathy. So I was just like in my room when I died, I was like... Dylan, talk about the drag queen. Dylan, please make sure he's dead. Dylan, Dylan. And you reached him. It worked. Yeah. Because the next day he was dead.

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You know, he was dead. And I was like, yes, it worked. You know, you got to tell a path to people when you have connections. It's all about connection. I was like, yeah, Dylan. I was like literally calling Dylan's name. And then he made it happen. And then when, of course, when he came from the traitors, We spoke for like, I think two hours almost. So he told me everything that happened.

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He's like, don't worry, I got you. I was so upset when you murdered and I knew it was him. So I first thing is like, the first time I tried, it didn't work. But the second time it worked and he's out, you know? And I was like. Love him so much.

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So we were not told we're not coming back, to be honest. We were told we were paused.

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People online said when we were airing season two that we reminded them of the old Housewives. There was a lot of good reviews compared to New York Housewives. And my cousin is a New York Housewife.

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Oh, yeah, that's fine. Yeah, you can ask me. So, you know, we got great reviews. We were doing fun things. You know, my cast members are really crazy and good. So, honestly, did not expect that call. Okay, like, hey, guys, they've decided to put you guys on pause, but we never know, you know, didn't. Because I thought we were going to start filming in a few weeks. Right.

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You know, because they were talking to us like, what's going on with you in your life and all that stuff, you know? And also I feel like you guys didn't get to meet, you missed a lot of chance because, you know, we have like better Jen Shah in our cast.

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Yeah. So we had a lot of good things coming. We had a lot of strong storylines. There was so much that was going to happen that you guys are missing out. And I just feel like I'm great TV. My son is moving to New York to college, you know?

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Yes, I just talked to her two days ago. How's she doing? Yesterday I told her I've landed in New York, LA. Don't even know where I am because I'm just like, I told her I'm here. She's good. She's better. The family's taking care of her. You know, I put her first. I knew what was going on, of course, everything. And I care that she's in a good mental place now. Like, she's better.

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She's very forgiving. She's better than me. Let's just put it that way.

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No, totally. But is flirting like what's the line with like flirting as far as like unfaithfulness?

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Yeah, 100%. Of course, of course, of course. It takes the bigger person to do the bigger thing when they're not even wrong.

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Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Oh, like, oh, wow. Maybe I might... No, no, no. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. No, like I might go. Maybe I will go film a scene with my cousin. Maybe I'll have fun with her. Maybe if she has an event, I'll show up and support her.

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You think I'm great television? Oh, thank you. Look, we're becoming friends.

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I am the best television. There's no one like me in Housewives. It's true.

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there's no one there's no one like me and i'm saying that out of like good heart not like some of them are the same from different shows they're literally the same characters you can find but me no no yeah there's no one like he was never anyone like me he's ever seen on housewife yeah you're great you're one of one yeah it's so good to have you i loved this come back

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Yes, I would love that. If you're in Idaho, you can come in.

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I know. I'll tell you why I unsent them. Because I was like, I started to research you. And then I found out you have a beautiful wife. Then I was like, he's grown. And she's taking, you know, she's made him grown and she's very pretty. So she's doing a great job. Thank you. I was trying. I'm trying.

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You're doing great. But no, but honestly, I'm so happy to have met you. I was really looking forward to this. That's why I asked you if you live in LA because I knew like you have a podcast and I was like, maybe I should go. My sister actually told me about you. My sister Ifrah, she was like, if you're going to LA for traders, maybe you should reach out to Nick Viles. He has a very good podcast.

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So you should do it. So that's why I went to you and I was like, do you live in LA? Because I was coming to LA. So that was the reason. And then I discovered. Yeah. Then that's when. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Then he's like, oh my God. Yeah. But now we're friends. And.

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Thank you. Yeah. Really, really gorgeous. And he has a really big dick. Jesus Christ. Oh. Oh, my God. I love that for you, girl. I know. Because you're so hot, too. Oh, my God. I would watch you guys. Okay, goodbye. Get out of here. Okay, goodbye.

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But if you're just like, you're the kind of person that like everyone, you're just like naturally like charming and charismatic and flirty and give people that sort of attention.

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Yeah, so basically she had posted on Instagram announcing that she was pregnant and she was saying that she felt like this baby was like,

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healing her and she she is the one who is suffering from this kind of skin condition that she's been battling for years hasn't really been able to like get under control yes it's been really difficult for she calls it a chronic illness yes and certain comments not that like there were many comments on the post some of them were like very very supportive but there were some that like one of them said probably just needs more money on social media these youtubers make a lot of money showing their pregnancies cow babies

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And so she clapped back to them. For whatever reason, people were so weird when I said that I hope this baby heals me. But I mean it when I say this baby has already brought me so much healing, both physically and mentally. I hated every day being in my body and getting pregnant.

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I've come to appreciate my body and how hard it has worked the last couple of years to fight all the rashes, all the illness, and now to create life and bring our little baby into the world.

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Yeah, I think he always is giving a Wes Wilson opinion.

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Who in Summer House do you think you would trust to babysit Lindsay's baby? Sierra. She's a nurse.

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Is Kyle there? Because I don't know if his DJ set is going to, like, if he can DJ a lullaby. Yeah.

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Yeah. Paige is definitely giving you baby. So Sierra takes care of people, and I would trust her to take care of my baby.

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Sierra would crush it. Paige would just be in bed on her phone as Sierra's babysitting.

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Paige will put up funds. This thing has been crying. You should do something about it. Carl is like, I mentally and physically cannot do this.