Lauren
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Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
which is perfect because I think if you had two loud me's, you'd not have a good balance. And I just really liked her. And she just had like a lot of natural ability.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I think it changes your body to live here. I don't think it's our fault. I think that you just do become more of a wimp. I agree.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
Not the town hall because it was so hot in there always. And it was like 50 people. You know, Luke's was always fun. The scenes in there were always fun. It always just had a lot of like energy. I used to get phone calls from like my cousins who'd be like, how many times are you going around the gazebo? Like you've been like, we would just walk around the gazebo a million times.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
So, you know, you just get such a sense memory of all these places. My house was always fun. And the kitchen was always, we had good scenes in the kitchen. It tended to be, you know, in the house where like, We'd have some good watching TV sitting on the couch with giant cheese puffs in front of us. The best. They were all really cozy. The damn town hall.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
Kelly. Well, no. Gosh, everybody is and isn't, you know, like Kelly has that part of her, but she's warm. She's she's, you know, regal, but way warmer than than Emily, who who does who had warmth in there. Yes.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I think that that Everybody Loves an Irish Girl t-shirt that was my introduction to Instagram. Yeah, guys, I haven't even been on it a year yet. Really, was really waiting to just make sure it was going to stick. I think that was mine. And occasionally... But, you know, you're going to work at five in the morning. And like, so I wasn't I wasn't bringing in anything good.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
Also, like my clothes are not her clothes are more fun than my clothes are not fun.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I don't do yoga. I try. I've tried. I'll try again. I just can't. People are like, oh, my God, the yoga. I don't know why I'm making impressions of my friends, making them sound like ding-dongs. But like, yeah, I can't do it. I don't know. It's so slow.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
There's a year when Alexis and I are in a fight. Rory and Lorelei are in a fight for a long time. And and we would talk about it. And Amy was like, you know, you can't do a show for this long and not have conflict. But it. I forget even what the conflict was, but it went on for a while. And that's the one that I would hear from people that they didn't like. I agree.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I won't be gotten here or anywhere else. I'll never say they were all a good fit for her at the time because there were a learning experience. Oh my God, you're so... That's the right answer. We all learn from even the frogs.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
And dating is a real big word for some of the experiences. But you know, you're there 14, 15 hours. Who else are you going to meet?
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
Well, that really was the scene that was the hook of the show. Weirdly or... I had never seen that scene before in anything. And I thought like, that's really creative. That's a great way to introduce that. These are, you know, people who are close in age. And, um, I, I, I did sort of feel like that's the, I can still, I can remember it really well. Um,
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
You know, it was one of the first scenes, if not the first scene we shot at Luke's diner. I don't know. I felt like that that was a really fun... The kid playing the kid was really cute. And Alexis was like, are you my new daddy? Like speaking of call her daddy. And I don't know. It was just really fun. It was like the hook of the show.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
She did? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, I remember. Lauren! I remember, I remember, I remember. Oh, I mean, there are these things where, yeah, that was bad.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I mean, it's tough because I don't want to wreck anything for anybody. I loved those scenes. They were a real bear to shoot because somebody's eating here and somebody's eating there. Somebody's eating here. You got to move the camera all the way around. And so they would take a really long time and you'd sit in front of that like fake fancy food.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
And, you know, but we would just... That was also...
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
so key to the show to so you know so we we loved them while they took a long time I didn't even think about that as like when you're in production like you're like I'm which I guess could then kind of in a positive way like add to your annoyance exactly like shut up mom and you're like getting annoyed well and it and it does it's it's an interesting exercise in continuity because as you know the hours tick by
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
What are what's your emotional level? Where did your elbow go? Like, so there was a kind of you're right, like, constraint in there or something that like, you had to keep doing this the same exact way and yet keep it fresh, which is kind of indicative of how you were actually supposed to be feeling while you're shooting that scene.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
And then it ends like what was that last day like for you? It was really emotional. We had our wonderful director, Lee Charlotte Schemmel, who was. was like, guys, you know, I'm going to do a shot at the end that mimics the shot that is in the pilot that sort of pulls away from Luke's and we're like there in the diner. She's like, in case this is it. And the whole year had been really emotional.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
We were very lost without as good writers we had. We were kind of lost without Amy and Dan. the show just didn't feel the same. We couldn't even, it was like, should we try to stay? Should we try to keep going? And it's not up to the actors. So there were many, many, many conversations and it just did feel like you want to be able to say goodbye to something and we didn't get to do that.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
Well, I... really have enjoyed because I worked for a big chunk of the year and I'm I'm in kind of a newish house that I haven't like gotten I haven't gotten to spend a lot of time there I really love doing very little and my favorite thing about my house is I put because the I put the coffee machine where the bedrooms are on the bedroom level so I get up I get out of bed I go boop
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
Well, it didn't happen until a few weeks later. There were still conversations going on. Who knows how that decision ultimately got made. But I was at a restaurant and the waiter came over and was like, your agents on the phone, which was very dramatic, glamorous. I was like, Oh, excuse me, my agents on the phone.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
And I went and picked up the phone at the bar because I guess I don't know what was going on with cell phones then. And or why he knew where I was or like why I don't know any of it, but and he said it's over. And I didn't know how to feel. And I didn't know, you know, later, different a couple different cast members said, you know, you didn't call me.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
And I was like, oh God, I wouldn't even have thought it was my job or my place to call anybody and tell them.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
It just made me so happy. It's so... it would just made me so happy. I, I, I was like on a little cloud the entire time. I, because it was such an opportunity that you don't get very often to do a, not a do over, but like get to return to something with people feeling enthusiastic and you know, it's going to be completed. You know, it's not a pilot. It was just an incredible opportunity. And yeah,
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I don't know, everything about it was just, it was the most probably fun I've had at work.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I think this is just my theory. I do not know. This is how much I'm superstitious or in love with the show. There are questions I could probably get an answer to that I have never asked. I never asked because Amy said from the beginning she knew what the final four words of the show were. She knew from the beginning. And she didn't get to do it in season seven.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
It had to wait until, like, she knew that was the, those were the final words. I never asked her. I didn't even ask her when we were shooting that episode of the show. I don't think I asked her until, because it wasn't in the script. Because it's what, mom, I'm pregnant? Mom, what, I'm pregnant. And she didn't put it in the script because she didn't want it to leak.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
So she just told us when we kind of got there. And so it did feel like a cliffhanger. I think it was. I think maybe the thought was we would go into another season then. But I have never asked and I don't know. Why don't you ask? Because I don't know. Because I'm scared. I don't know. Because I guess I feel like if that didn't happen, was that like, I don't know. Like, I don't want to know.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I don't want to see behind the curtain of like, did they not feel like doing it? Did Netflix not feel like doing it? Were they waiting? What were they waiting on? There's just a little bit of movie magic that I would like to maintain. That's fair. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have your theories of who you think the father is? I do. Are you going to tell me?
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
Well, there are two theories and either one, I'll just speak as a producer type now, could send the story forward. It could be the Wookiee who she fools around with in that storyline. It could be Logan. And either way, it's juicy. Okay. Either way, it's juicy. Yeah, that's fair. I know.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
It could be some one night stand, which then what does that do to her relationship to the guy she's maybe, you know, was going to go down that path or it could be. Could be him. This is good tea.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
Oh my God. Because that's what I was going to wonder is, is that a rewatch in the way, it's not in the same way, but I don't hear that as much that people rewatch it.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
to the coffee maker. I get back in bed and I do like every New York Times puzzle. I'll read. I'll like I just the luxury of not having a 5 a.m. call time is just really a wonderful place.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But predominantly, like, just it was the most easy filming experience, which... You bond to some degree no matter what, but when something's easy and you just have a lot of time to just sit around and chit-chat, that's just so fun. How lucky were we that we got to... you know, make this show where it was a very different way of working.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
And it was a much looser kind of way of working. And they each have their merit and they each like belong to the kind of show it is. And I just love, I just love everybody truly. And, and, you know, in particular had the fortune of May and miles being like,
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
a child of mine adjacent like incredible friendships that have that have lasted and you know my friendship with Dax I don't see him as much but like there's just some really wonderful people every scene was so much fun to do um
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
but you also want to be a part of it. And there was such pride, I'll say, amongst the cast. Everybody in their own family unit really had their own thing and their own kind of language, their own way they did things. And, you know, so it was easy when we would all get together to have these sort of organic conflicts and, you know, ribbing and kind of fun and, like, it's a really good group.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I mean, there is just a strange thing Mae Whitman and I have, which is, like... it's like we are speaking some twin language. And there were many, many scenes with her almost to the degree that I was like, this must stop. We cannot continue. I'd have a tiny little maybe tear in my eye. She'd be like, nope, nope, don't do it. Don't do it.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
And like, you know, I think of like when we're singing, playing guitar and stuff. And like, you know, she improvised a line one day where she said, she said, you're my hero. And I'm pretty sure she just like came up with that. And like, it's just a weirdo kind of connection that, you know, we're having right now.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
Gilmore Girls never. Okay. And parenthood sometimes. And, you know... and both just have their merit.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
Always feels weird to be asked, and many times I was lying because it's such a strange thing to talk about, which I still mainly don't talk about, like something that... Thank you.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
Well, it's gotten, it's pretty, it can be anything. First of all, I'll drink coffee from the gas station. I don't care. And also I'll have like really coffee with like a lot of, you know, footnotes on it. Like can you? And also, but the thing that I do around holiday time, so the coffee is just coffee. I like this vanilla creamer.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
That's really, really nice of you to say. Thank you. I'm excited too. How are you doing today? Listen, I was running a little late. It's raining in California, which always freaks everybody out. But I'm otherwise good.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
And then I've started being this person, which is I have whipped cream in a can and I put whipped cream on top of my coffee and cinnamon. It's the best thing you've ever had. And the whipped cream was just like for holidays. I was like, certainly no one can just have whipped cream on their coffee. That's just decadent. And then I just kept it from Christmas. It's so good.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
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Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
It was all written. It was all there. The coffees. I mean, it's in the.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
first episode right she goes and he's you know demands more coffee and he's like you've had enough no that was just there and um you know like it was one of the many kind of serendipitous aspects of that part and that time that character is like we just shared a lot of traits okay I'm gonna move my coffee machine upstairs I don't know how I'm doing it but I'm doing it
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
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Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I mean, so many things. First of all, I think in the beginning, something should be easy. It should not be, I don't know, are they going to call? Like any of that kind of gamesmanship. I think I have a great sense of how I connect to somebody who physically, intellectually, humor. I really love a certain level of back and forth banter.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I know that, and I think the thing I know now better is also like, how are we going to live this life together? And it's interesting, all my friends my age, some are still married for a long time, some have been in the dating world, the people who are the happiest are doing what they want to do and being really clear up front.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I have a friend who's like, I don't really think I'm going to get married again. And I just want to be having fun and out there. And so I just think, and that is a gift of age, if you let it be, which is you can just say what you would like. And there's no amount of You can't love somebody into being who you want them to be or wanting the same things.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
And I think not to put women in a stereotype, but I think it's easy to be like, if I just dot, dot, dot, then he'll dot, dot, dot. And I don't think that works.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
Well, is there something besides starting over that can give you fulfillment that is a project you have that is not dependent on outside validation I really as a writer have gotten an incredible amount of satisfaction in just the practice of of putting these books together and you get better the more you do something, no matter what. No matter what.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
Like, you don't have to be... I just took up tennis this year. I'm terrible. But I practice and I get better. And that is such a basic thing that really, because of tennis, really became new to me. And the writing is that too. I just get better with doing more. And so... job you're nine to five or nobody works nine to five anymore, but, um, your job is one piece of you.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
Can it, can it, can you give yourself something else so that, you know, I mean, it's hobbies, it's, you know, travel, it's reading, it's whatever else.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I really get that. It's it, they, they will end. Um,
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I talked I've talked about before when I finished Gilmore Girls and I was like anybody who's who's up for dinner no one everybody had children and while I was gone like everybody was in a different life phase that's what I mean I have often been out of that step and I think one thing is you have to meet your friend where they are and like go over to the house and play with the toddler and like understand that you you don't you guys don't have the same hours but the the kids eventually go to college
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
Those fuckers are gone now. Well, I have like all my, you know, when I get to go home, my high school girlfriends are like, their kids are gone now. And like, it's almost like, it's one of the many, many things I loved about the Bridget Jones movie and book. But this most recent one is like, she's back in the dating scene because, you know, she, for happy and sad reasons, can be.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
It's always the same. We're all, you know... it's like you keep meeting the same challenges and, and in life.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I mean, there's really just no, the only falling behind is in your mind. You know, I used to, I skipped a grade when I was little and, and for a long time I was like, I have an extra year. Yeah. There's no such thing. I was like, I have an extra year before I'm the same age as people who are a year ahead of me. There is only what you tell yourself.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
And if you've seen any Nancy Meyers movies, you know that people come around at different ages. But it is hard when you're not with your peer group. Yeah.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I guess being asked about aging. I was talking about this today with some people – You and I are having this experience. We are having this conversation. We are different ages. Someday when you are my age and you are talking to someone who is now your age, you will not feel the difference as much. I think the younger person feels the difference more than the older person. I am the same person.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I... I think it's psychotic, the number of years I have lived on this planet. I'm like, surely that's a miscount. Surely that's wrong. It genuinely does not feel that way. As opposed to when I was 30, I was like, I feel 30. I understood 40. This now is like... I just don't accept it. And that's funny. And the stuff that – because mainly I'm just living the same life.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
There are some things where you go, oh, I fell and, you know, broke a thing and like the recovery took a little longer or whatever. So – but – I am amazed at the people I know who are giving into a sense of sadness.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
about getting older or not feeling the same way they did I meet that by not in a brutal way but like I fight that I fight the urge to be like oh I just even don't even like when you know friends are like oh well I'm so old I can't remember that you know whatever like it's I think it's just also my mom passed at age 61 like I'm not that far away from that like I don't want to be living in
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I wrote this in another essay, which is I know what I want and I'm grateful for what I have. That is the best thing about it to me. And, and I, and the fun, you can make it fun if you plan what's next, like as much as you can, you think about so that it doesn't. Cause I think the, you know, I, I went to the theater on Sunday here in Los Angeles, which is unusual. And
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
90% of the audience was older, like way much, much older, which you don't see in LA. And I just found it fascinating. What is that going to be like? I like to think about that. I like to plan for that. I like to imagine what kind of, that's a stylish lady in her perhaps 70s. How do I want to
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
approach that so that i'm not scared by it i'm not freaked out by it and i'm not depressed because it truly is all the things people say of like you should be so lucky to be in all those places and yeah and the how you look thing is like i don't know it's so tired yeah like it's how do you think men and women handle
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I've actually heard from, I think it's a vulnerable thing for guys too. And there is like popular opinion would say they have it easier, but I think it's, it's, if you identified as a beauty of either man or woman as, as a younger person, I think it's the loss might be greater. Like my mom was A stunningly beautiful person who literally turned heads on the street. I did not grow up with that.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I'm not saying – whatever. I just didn't have that identity. That was not my thing. So it's not – still not my thing. Like it's not – I don't feel the loss of like – That being treated that way. And even in relationship, I never like met someone across a crowded room. I was friends with them or I worked with them or I, it was organic.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
Like it was just, I've, you know, would fall for the person and they would fall for me. And so, um, I think that makes it a little bit easier.
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I'm so – it's different. That's the – that was one of the main things. I, like – I liked that this – first of all, it's a comedy. I really – this is how I would like to – spend my days now. I feel that I cannot touch the beauty that is Gilmore Girls. I really love that dramedy parenthood space. I did start in half hour and it was so fun to just do something that was a
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
Because it's a trope of a kind and like that was there. But I was also like, this is so relatable to anybody when the thing you have worked for is taken away. Whether it was your fault or somebody else is coming up behind you or like, you know, or somebody's better at it. That is just evolution. That's just being a human on this planet. Like...
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
nothing lasts forever and and so and then I love the showrunner you know now again like I said it's putting all the pieces together I'm not just responding to the part I'm responding to what's this experience going to be do I get to have a say in creative conversation and like and also that it was you know we're the first scripted programming for to be uh original scripted programming and
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
And I was like, that's fun. And I just want to say, probably the kids know, but people still say to me, oh, I can't have another subscription. It's free. You just download it. You, you know, put your email in if you want to save stuff, but it's so easy, the interface and it's, and it's, it's very, it doesn't cost you anything.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
Endlessly, and it's not just women. We are, not to be real esoteric, we will be replaced. You and I will not be here forever. And that is – that's how it goes. And so that's true in work, in life. I remember I did a pilot that didn't get picked up. And one of the younger cast was like – she was like, so is this going to get picked up? And I was like, oh, I have no idea.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
And she's like, what do you mean? They don't tell you? And I'm like, no. They don't know. Nobody knows. Nobody tells me. And she's like, so – You could see her, like, things. She was like, so this just keeps happening over and over where, like, you do something and then you see if it goes and then, you know, you don't know how that's going to turn out. And I was like, yeah. It's my life.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
You don't get to a place where it's just a slam dunk in life, in, you know, relationship, in work. What do you hope people take away from the show? Honestly, I just hope they have a good time. I mean, I've seen – it truly makes fun of everybody. No one is woke or –
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
doing a great job that's to me a fun comedy if everyone's silly and I think there's something there that we haven't you know that that does sort of that is in the zeitgeist of like do kids know not kids but I call them the kids on the show I'm sure they're so irritated um I'm like where are the kids are the kids coming to lunch um they're all like you know 29 years old um but so
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
You know, there's something there because we're living in various kinds of times. But on the one hand, a really expressive time where, you know, people can bring themselves to work, at least they do here. And like, this character does not understand what language they're speaking. And I just think that's relatable.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
Thank you. And I love this conversation. And I just loved being asked these questions and being included in this, whatever this journey is going to be for you. So congratulations and thank you for inviting me.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I mean, none of them. They were all on the, you know, it's hard to do...
Call Her Daddy
Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
something in service of the thing you want to do but you're not there yet um but I didn't I didn't hate being a waitress I I liked the I like anything where you're moving and the time goes by really quickly I liked being an apprentice at summer stock even though like during the day we had to like clean the bathrooms and paint the fence and stuff work the box office um but that was just like we were all kind of in it together it was like a fun community um
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
No, everyone gets very stressed out and it's hard to, but it also looks really pretty and, you know, it makes the air feel healthier. True.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I liked being a tutor. I was a tutor for the SATs and stuff. Oh, my God. Yeah. Wait, that's a flex. Wait, no. Lauren, that's like, whoa. It was a little bit. Sure. I mean, really, the reason I got the job is because I had a car in New York City. And they were like, oh, we'll send her to Far Rockaway or whatever. But I like working with kids. And we weren't even that far apart in age.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I was like right out of grad school. And I'm working with like high school kids. So. So they were all kind of okay. I worked retail. I worked at Barney's. Oh, you did it all. Yeah.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
It feels really good. And and also it's hard to it's hard to comprehend. It's like I feel really lucky. I feel like honored. And it's just kind of crazy. I don't. Because where does it go from here? Like how many generations, you know?
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
Everything you just said, I think it's a safe place to visit. And, you know, it's aspirational without being saccharine. I mean, this mother-daughter relationship is really fun and positive, but it has its bumps on the road. But I do think it's the writing as well, which is... kind of meets you, sorry, meets you wherever you are.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
Well, I live in L.A. and New York. I still have a place in New York that I've had for a long time. So I'm I'm endlessly like asking that question. I think one extremely L.A. thing is to be really freaked out by like one inch of rain. And it is a thing to like really have long conversations about what freeway you took and why. And and it's just very L.A. to be like, oh, my gosh, it's 70 degrees.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
If you're a young person, you might miss some of the references and get some of the wit of it kind of as you get older. But I think there's a, it's almost to me, and this is what it was like performing it, it has a musicality to it. It's almost theater in a way, I feel like, how densely packed the dialogue is, but how kind of it takes you along like a song does, you know?
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
And so I think it's something in your brain that like playing a song again, like you can kind of listen to it again. That's such an interesting way.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
There was no moment because it was a very slow burn and continues to be. I remember driving, I guess my window was down or something. I was at a stoplight and a more truckie driver guy was like, go more girls. And I was like... Unlikely, sir. You're an unlikely, but I love it. And so it was a really slow burn. That is the best where you're like, not the demographic I thought we were hitting.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
You can't believe how many men are like, I know it's not for me or it's not designed for me. And I'm like, it is for you. You should start a support group. Oh, that's cute. Yeah.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I was really struck by the sense of humor in the writing and that it was – because you have to remember this was a – we now have –
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
many more dramedies than we did then and i don't even know and and even when the show started picking up steam and getting submitted for things there was always a discussion every time of do we submit it in comedy or do we submit it in drama it doesn't really it is its own kind of thing and but it's that tone that i love the most and it did not occur to me
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
although it occurred to many other people in my work life, that she was a mom. Like, that wasn't the thing that struck me that because a lot of people then I was 30, I turned 32 on the pilot, I think, or right before. And people were like, don't play a mom. That's the end of your career. Like, you should, you know, play whatever girlfriends, you know, until you
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
You can't do that anymore or whatever. It was more like play the girlfriend. And I was like, oh, I don't think of this – mom is not – mom can be so many things. And I just really – I recognized the language. Like it was somebody speaking to me. I was like, I know that person already.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I loved it, too. And I think the aspect... Because you could have just stopped at the premise being, oh, she had her as a teenager. But it... It was also therefore allowed for them to have a more truly pure relationship except for when, you know, somebody needed to put their foot down. And we did it for each other in a way. And you buy it, I think, because that's the whole thing of the show.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
They're friends who are also mother and daughter. They're mother and daughter who are also friends. It's beautiful. Yeah.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I'm freezing like that has become like now I go to the East Coast and I can't I don't know how I ever lived there.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
I'm trying to think now. There was one in particular in the maybe first or second season where I was like, are they just stealing from my life? And it was probably in... I mean, of course, besides I was not a mom, but many parallels of... dating, career setbacks, dealing with parents. I mean, it's just all relatable.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
It is the wonderful evolution in television where the more the writer gets to know you, I mean, you're always playing, hopefully the best thing you can get in especially a TV show that's going to go on is you want to be the voice of the creator of the show. You want to be that character who You know, is them speaking through you kind of that's where you get the most juicy kind of material.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
But also, as they get to know you, they start writing for you even more. And that's really fun, fun and scary.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
just heard me gossiping over here how is that in the script this week get away yes I've like sat with actors sometimes we're like I had to like stop talking about my personal life yes in the script and right no you always hear that about like sex in the city and friends and stuff yeah I felt that less on parenthood where which I love that character I love that show too but I would get frustrated on her behalf sometimes I'd be like what can't she not have a win like what I mean she did have wins and and
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
And had, you know, such a beautiful relationship to that family, too.
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Lauren Graham: Lorelai, Love, & Life Lessons
Well, it was literally on our way to the table read because... They had waited for me because I was on another show. So by the time they cast me, they were ready to go, ready to shoot. And we went to Canada and I met Alexis in the lobby of the hotel. And we just always really got along.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Yeah. Like in my mind, I'm like, Oh, like live music, a live band, a singer, like love that. So now, and I'm like, yeah, totally. Like, let's go. So we close our tabs and we're walking to the next bar and we get to the next bar. Okay. It's a drag show. And I'm like, Oh, that's not entirely like what I was anticipating, but like, okay. Like I'm down fun. Like let's go to a drag show. Yeah.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
So we're like watching the drag show. We're hanging out. We're laughing in my mind. I'm like, Oh, he thinks this is a date. He's so into me.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Like what a great night for me. I thought I was going to have a solo night night and now I'm on a date with this girl. Love. So like we're watching the drag show and then there's like an arcade in the bar too. So then we go play like some games together and we're talking and then we go sit at a table in the back and we get another drink and we're still just like chatting.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
So we're talking and we've been hanging out for like an hour and a half now at this second bar. And I look up and I look around at the bar and I'm like, is this bar circus themed? And he's like, yeah. He's like, it's my favorite because it makes me feel like I'm at home. I'm like, what do you mean it makes me feel like you're at home?
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
And he's like, well, the past six years I've been in the circus. I just got out of the circus. I look around at the bar and I'm like, is this bar circus themed? And he's like, yeah. He's like, it's my favorite because it makes me feel like I'm at home. I'm like, what do you mean it makes you feel like you're at home? And he's like, well, the past six years I've been in the circus.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I just got out of the circus. I'm like, oh, you were in the circus. Like pop off. And I was like, he was telling you about like his roommate and him who just like moved out. And I'm like, by chance, was your roommate also in the circus? And he's like, yeah, all of my friends here are from the circus.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
And then like I like really like pause for a second and I like really take in my surroundings more. Like sober up a little bit. Yeah. It was a circus themed bar. It was a gay bar and he was a gay man.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
lauren sweetie lauren lauren i don't think he thought he was on a date with no he found a nice young straight woman who he thought loved the gays yeah who does love the gays i'm at this point let it be known i'm an ally
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
We. Lauren. I have something wrong with me. Like. My gaydar is broken. I can't tell a gay man from a straight man. I am sorry.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Yeah, I called it. And then I texted my friend who gave me the recommendation for the sushi place. And I was like, wow, so funny how this night turned out. My friend who gave me the recommendation is a gay man. And he was like, oh, honey, I could have told you you weren't going to meet me when I sent you to the gay neighborhood.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
fucking god lauren i know can i ask what he did in the circus uh yeah he was um the control panel operator so he coordinated the music the pyro and the lights operating in sync huh so at least he like it could have he wasn't i don't know i mean if you fling maybe that could have been cool it could have been cool too if he was like the flamethrower like he ate fire right
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
moving on okay so that okay so then I thought on the way home from this trip that I was gonna redeem myself so I'm flying home from this vacation and I am going home and like masturbating or you like so turned off they're like fuck I really fucked that up no I went home and I was like I need to like reevaluate some things
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
So I'm trying to redeem myself. So I'm flying home from my Christmas vacation. I'm going back to Chicago and I'm in a fabulous mood. I'm feeling on top of the world because I just got upgraded to first class. I'm going to get on this plane. I'm going to have two glasses of red wine. I have like three hours left in my book.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I'm about to like sit down and like read like the final battle scene of my book. And I'm like, I'm going to have a great flight home. Love. So I walk onto the flight and I see that in first class, I am seated next to the hottest man in the entire world. Here we go again. No, no, no, no, no. And he's gay. No, he was straight. He was straight. Okay. I like definitely know he was straight.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
And I don't want to be the girl who cries hot guy on the plane. Because I know we said last time that like the guy on the plane was the hottest. This guy was... 10 times hotter than the guy on the 10 times hotter he was even dressed better he had like a fear of god like sweatshirt on like a little like hat like perfectly fitted jeans like a little so gay
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Well, I'm a free bird. Oh, I have I have no nothing tying me down, nothing holding me back. I can just go where the wind blows me and you do some cool things.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
can we also agree before you tell me the rest of the story that without a doubt every single fucking time that you go to the airport moving forward i have to stop looking like shit you have to get my shit together even if you're not full glam like you need to start did you see what i wore when i flew here yesterday no i arrived to your house yesterday what were you wearing i was wearing leggings a sweater and a little scarf and i had earrings on you had a scarf i had a scarf on
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
You know why the plane is good? Because other places, it could come across off-putting if someone just like... So it's talking. Talking to you. But like if you're seated next to someone on a plane, I'm not...
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
freak i'm not entirely off put if someone tries to talk to me okay that's fair okay so sorry back on track okay so i sit down next to him and i was ugly because i gotta start looking better on planes so i'm like a little insecure i'm like this guy's so hot and like how ugly like are you like you're like worst a little better than the last time i'm not hung over all right so it's not i'm not puffy but i just like don't have any makeup on and like my hair is greasy and in a bun yeah yeah yeah um and i think i'm wearing like a full sweatsuit
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
No, I was going to have to wow him with my personality.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Yeah, that's not my best asset. Okay. So, you know, when like someone's so hot, you're like a little uncomfortable. That's how I felt. So I popped in my AirPods and I was like, I just need to like be with myself a little bit and kind of strategize. Like what in the world could I make conversation with this guy about? And I'm like, I need to, I have a four hour flight.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I'm gonna hit pause, I'm gonna have two glasses of wine, I'm gonna read my book, and I'm gonna get a little liquid courage brewing inside of me. And then eventually I'm gonna find some way to make contact. So I get lost in my book for a second, and I kinda forget he's there. And I get a buzz on, and all of a sudden I realize I have to pee so bad.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
And I'm a bitch on planes when it comes to asking people to stand up to go to the bathroom. Absolutely. I don't think I'm a bitch in other areas of my life. I don't really have boundary issues. I can ask for like what I want and need. But when it comes to asking people to stand up on a plane so I can pee. It's terrifying. Worst nightmare.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
So I'm like, all of a sudden like hits me, like I'm in my book and it just like hits me. I'm like, I have to pee so bad. And I look up at my man and he is knocked the fuck out. Oh, that's tough. Sleeping. But I'm like, it's just one person I have to ask to stand. And like, I have two and a half hours left. Like I gotta pee. Yeah. Like I can't do this.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
So at first I like lightly tap him and I'm like, excuse me. not budging and then i go a little harder and i'm like excuse me and i'm like excuse me he gets a heart on okay wait so you go harder so i go a little harder and i'm like excuse me excuse me I'm doing this for like a few minutes and like, I'm wanting to like crawl in my skin. I'm like, I'm dying. Of course.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
The guy across the aisle sees me and he starts giving me encouragement. He's like, you got this, you got this, you got this. So I, I'm, I'm now like, okay, like he's, he's encouraging me. So I'm getting a little more like, like a little like, excuse me. And this guy's like still not waking up. So then the guy across the aisle reaches over and joins in.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
So the guy across the aisle is leaning across the aisle on one shoulder. I'm on this guy's shoulder and we're both like, excuse me, excuse me. And he's not waking up. This is horrifying, Lauren. Fucking, Put your leg over that man's dick and lunge over him. Then the flight attendant joins in because the flight attendant comes over and is like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like, what's going on here?
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
What are you guys doing to this man? And I'm like, I'm so sorry. I couldn't get him to wake up. And that guy saw me struggling. So then that guy joined in.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
to the flight attendant like you can tell this ain't her first rodeo she two hands him and jolts him awake and he wakes up i'm leaning over him on this side the flight attendant's over the front of him and the guy across the aisle is leaning over him too and he wakes up and he's like what the actual fuck probably panicked yeah like we're going down yeah and i'm like i'm so sorry i was trying to wake you up then they joined in the flight attendant saw us you're trying to harass you and she joined in and like now i'm so sorry that you're waking up like this and it was like he's like
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
can you imagine being on a plane and opening your eyes and there's four human beings above you i would be like someone's in the cockpit like someone's taking everyone down yeah dude oh but in my mind i'm like that actually couldn't have gone worse right but it's it's gonna be funny so i'm gonna go to the bathroom okay and like we're gonna come back and laugh about this because like how absurd that like he woke up that it took three people to wake him up and that he woke up with three people like you can
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
bond over yeah we now now i have an in now we have a bond love so i'm like okay like go to the bathroom like pee like this is gonna be so funny when i come back i come back he is knocked the fuck out again I come back. He's knocked the fuck out again. Like out cold. You're literally like, bro, bro. No. So I just crawl over him. You crawled over. I just crawled over into the rest of the sleep.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
He was sleeping like a sweet little angel baby. And when you land and when he landed, people normally wake up when you land, you know, like you like land and you're like, and like, you're like awake. He slept through the whole landing. He didn't get out until like the actual last second.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
No, like I think that would be nonconsensual. Lauren. So I'm just not having good luck.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I think it was because my relationship was crashing and burning. I wasn't in a good headspace.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
So last I told the daddy gang was about my high school reunion. Yeah. We've been potting a lot guys. Catch up. Thanksgiving episode. I was talking about how I was about to go to my high school reunion. You were going to see your arch nemesis. I was about to say, I went off on my arch nemesis. Was she there? Okay. Yeah.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
So in that episode, I told a story about my high school boyfriend cheating on me at prom with my arch nemesis. Classic. And that podcast episode aired three days before the high school reunion. So I had a little bit of anxiety going into my high school reunion. Like, is he going to be there? Is she going to be there? Did they hear me just like pop off on them?
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Do they think that like I'm still like... Obsessed.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Yeah. Yeah. And just like what's the interaction going to be? So... I did some intel. I knew, as I said in that episode, that my arch nemesis loves Snapchat. So I got back in the old Snapchat.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Uh, yeah, she did. Cause I logged right back into my Snapchat and I checked her Snapchat story, which was active. And I confirmed she was not in the state of Pennsylvania. She was not going to be at the reunion. Boom. She's out. Only contender left my high school ex. Is he going to be at the high school reunion?
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
So I am getting dressed and ready to go have my mom drop me off. meet my girlfriend so humbling yeah to have my mom go drop me off to meet my girlfriend so we could like pre-game for the high school reunion and my mom's a ride or die my mom's a homie she puts me on her back
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
So my mom, I'm getting ready to walk out the door. My mom goes, Lair, Lair, Lair, we got movement. I'm like, what's going on, Karen?
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
And I go over and she's like, Lair, bleep. That's my high school ex-boyfriend. Just watched my Instagram story. Do you know what this means, Lair? Nope.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
You guys aren't like friends. No, I haven't. I have not made contact with him in probably like nine years. Nine years. Is viewing your mother. mother's Instagram story and to top it off I was like mom because she keeps tabs she knows who's viewing every story oh yeah because she's got like 10 views I'm like mom is he a regular or is this a new view and she's like new view lair new view
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
OK, so then now I get to the pregame and me and the girls are like hyping it up. I'm like, oh, my God, he's going to.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
be there i'm gonna see him for the first time in nine years like do you think he's mad at me do you think he watched the podcast is he about to confront me like if he confronts me like what do i say like actually do you think there's gonna be like just like this like fuck you and then grab me and make out with me like we're just we're running all the scenarios so fun so fun so we get to the high school reunion and we get there 30 minutes late because we're cool okay
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Of course. And then can't be early. No. And so now we're like an hour and a half into the high school reunion. And me and my friends are kind of like keeping tabs on the door. Like, is he here? Is he going to walk in? Is he going to walk in?
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Oh, and I was going on a lot of dates that were eight hours and I was kissing everyone. Oh, my God. Yes. But I've cleaned up my act. Well, OK, so here's the update. I haven't gone on any like actual dates yet. since we last podcasted together. So I haven't. What's the holiday? Should we take our glasses off? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Okay. So an hour and a half, I'm like, I grabbed my friend and I'm like, let's just go ask the woman working the door. Like, is his name on the guest list? Like, let's just go ask, is his name on the guest list? So we walk up. Cause you had to RSVP. You had to RSVP and like pay so that like you have like a wristband for the open bar. Yeah, it's an open bar.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
So imagine where I'm at here when I go this way. You're probably like 19 drinks deep on an edible.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
So we go up to the woman working the door who has the list and like who RSVP'd and paid. And I'm like, is his name on the list? And she's like, no. we and this girl make eye contact and I know she's daddy gang and I know we're vibing on like a different frequency. So I'm like, again, open bar.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Yeah. She's, She's an ally. Oh, no, she's an ally. Listen up. Buckle up. So I look at her and I say, I need your help. I'm about to maybe have a faded run in with my high school boyfriend. And like, I need to like crank it up a little bit. Did you say a faded run in? Fated. Like fate. Like a fated run in.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
think he's that dead broke that he'll come the only reason he's not coming is because the $15 it was 50 and like maybe he was just in the area out in Philly like didn't know if he wanted to stop by but like if the bartender or if the door woman is calling him to say someone wants you here so bad that they paid for your wristband just stop by for a free open bar like fuck it let's go right yeah fair I would do I'd be like um
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
He doesn't answer. She leaves a voicemail. And what does she say? Exactly what I told her to.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Well, he didn't answer and it went to voicemail. And I never heard from him or never saw him.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I wasn't trying to see him to hook up with him or anything like that.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Lauren, a little like... That fucking sucks though that like I actually... Well, so since I've downloaded Instagram, I've requested him and he won't accept my friend request. So I think he saw the first episode.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
It's right in here. OK, so I'm not like intentionally taking a break from dating. The holidays happened.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
There was one time where I went on five dates in an eight day time span.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Well, when I went to college, my Instagram name, I was dead serious. I went into college and shared this with everyone. Laren McHotstuff.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Multiple? Absolutely not. Like... Maybe, maybe I could let one slide, but like context matters.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I was cranking and rocking and rolling. Lauren, yeah.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Like mirror selfie? Like if you're like stunting and posing?
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Maybe if like you're wearing like a really funny costume for like a theme something and you're just like snapping it like, ha, funny costume.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Okay, so I'm not like purposefully taking a break or like purposefully avoiding dates right now. It's just like a lot of work to like, if I'm gonna like,
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Yeah, like... Maybe he's walking by a mirror and someone snaps it up him. But that's still frat bro energy. Yeah.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
You're really far away. Like I don't want to be able to see any lines. Like you need to be far away where like you're just trying to show me more that like you go to beaches and like you go on vacations but you're not trying to show me your body.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
You're more trying to show me the scenery and you being shirtless is a byproduct of the scenery but you're not trying to get up in there and like I shouldn't be able to see any crevices far away from the camera.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
The scenery... You know what could be cool is if he was like on a hike with people and his shirt... And he just summited a mountain and he's so excited that he just summited a mountain so he rips his shirt off and he's on top of the mountain. No, no, no.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Oh, I will talk about prompts though. Okay. Talk to me about prompts. Because you haven't been on the apps in a little bit.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
So like prompts are... A huge. Prompts are huge on Hinge. Or like all the apps. I don't know. But Hinge specifically. And I am proud of my prompts. Oh.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Okay. So one of my prompts that gets the most traction is it's let's debate this topic. The top sheet is useless.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
This is what I was going to say. Okay. So now when everyone slides in, they're all going for the top sheet combo. So now I have like 20 conversations going ham about whether or not you use a top sheet. Like I can like, oh, I feel so much furrier since I got rid of the top sheet. Oh, I'm bold. I got rid of the top sheet. Like,
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I can give you five top sheet jokes right off the top of my head.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Yes, because the danger is I can't go on a date with someone when all we've talked about is whether you have a top sheet or not on your bed.
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
mode right now. What is going on with you? I don't know. So like, I would probably just like, go for it. No, no, I wouldn't. You were about to say some, go ahead, say what you were going to say. No, because like, no.
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I think you'd have to be like, am I doing this to like get closer to him? I have like a little bit like one leg into like a circle of his life. Am I doing this because I hope he's going to hear about it. Oh, yeah.
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Oh, yeah, baby. What? 6'11". How tall is that, actually?
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
face would be at his nipple how tall do you like what do you think is a sex celeb like what lauren matt matt is 6'3 oh no no i i actually think 6'11 are there 6'11 people lauren have you ever watched the nba they're 6'11 yes they're seven feet can you wait let me google how let me google average nba player height lauren seven feet really not average maybe but i think google it okay
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
The average height of an NBA player is six foot, Six and a half inches. Is that true? That's what AI, that's what AI Google is saying. And how tall is Matt?
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Whenever there's a voice prompt on a dating app, I don't listen because I know I'll immediately get the ick. I think that it's the worst fucking thing that they did to that app.
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
That's like that's not a deal breaker, but that's a big inconvenience. Yeah.
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Get the fuck out of here. If you even bring up what fraternity you were in on our first date. Also, like, get the fuck out of here.
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I don't want to chat. But actually, so I haven't gone on a date yet. And I don't even know, like over a month now, a month and a half. But I still go on the apps and like scroll and swipe and like peruse. And last week there was this one guy. What do you have your settings to tell me age? 30 to 45. I had a big 40 year old face. I think I'm done with that.
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Oh yeah, that's next time we podcast. You know, I'm inviting myself back. Yeah, come back. You're always here. Next time we podcast, we can debate the fact that I do not agree with my therapist. Yes, let's finish with this. My therapist told me that, because I don't want a relationship right now. And she was like, well, why are you going on dates if you don't want a relationship?
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I was finding it a little, no, I was hiding. I was finding a little hard to connect with the 45 year olds. Oh yeah.
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I was Laryn McCott stuff. And like, I would meet people like freshly in my sorority. Like, let's share socials. I'm like, yep, hit me up at Laryn McCott stuff. That's like actually...
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
i'm dead um anyways okay so back to your dates oh okay so i like haven't gone on a date in a while but like i keep a pulse on my apps and i was having some light chatter with this one guy and he seemed promising he gave me his number on like a thursday night and i was like oh okay like i'll text him on sunday like we don't need to make small talk through the weekend so on sunday like i wake up i sit down i have my cup of coffee and i'm like trying to clean up my app i'm trying to like unmatch with people who died out and like
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
go through and be like, why did I even match with him? I was feeling down in the dumps and desperate, like goodbye. And I was just cleaning up my page. And I accidentally unmatched with the guy who gave me his number, who I was about to text to go on a date with. On the apps, you like... He's gone.
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
so chicago daddy gang if you know a guy i think he was like 31 32 he had brown hair he went to columbia university it's hot um we were talking he was like oh like fellow columbia grad so chicago daddy gang if you know anyone on hinge who is brown hair decent height and went to columbia i was gonna text you and i was gonna go on a date with you so find some way to contact me i have a
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I fucked a dad before. What? Wait, what? You don't know this story? Who? It was like three years ago and I swooped him up at a bar and... Did he like woo you with like the picture of his kids? No, his sweater. I was obsessed with his sweater. I was like, oh, he looks like a librarian. And he's like, yeah. And...
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
mid sex he was like I gotta be honest my divorce is like in process right now and I was like you did tell me yeah I was like do you have kids and he was like yeah no like mid stroke and he's like oh I'm thinking about my divorce papers that's not fucking hot but he was a lingerer the next day but was was the
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
sexual situation I think dads cause they like seen some shit you know like they've seen a baby come out of a vagina they've like cleaned up shit diapers like bodily functions don't scare dads they're kind of freaks so I think dads are like down to get down and dirty the dads I think that aren't down for the weird shit yeah
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
So like. I don't know. Like recently divorced dads. Hit me up.
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Okay. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. So last we podcasted together, we were in Utah, and it was right before Christmas. And I was going to Seattle to meet my family for Christmas. We do the National Park bit every year. We were doing Olympic National Park. And since I was coming from Utah with you, I was already on the West Coast, and it made sense for me to just go right to Seattle.
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
So I was beating my family to Seattle by an entire day. So I had 24 hours to spend solo in Seattle. So I get to Seattle and I'm like, pop off.
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
You know what that means for us? It means going through Hannah Montana 1 and seeing how many songs we know on the album.
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I get to Seattle. And I go to a rooftop bar by myself. Love. I have a little glass of Savvy Bee. I have some oysters. Then I go to the spa. I get a massage. Oh my God. And then I go out to a sushi restaurant.
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Oh, no. OK, we're getting there. OK, so I'm at the sushi restaurant and I have a little bit of a buzz going in because I had like two cocktails before my massage and they gave me free champagne at the massage.
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Oh, highly recommend. Wait, I've never done that. Really? Highly recommend.
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I don't know. I've literally never done that. Do it and get back to me. Okay, good to know. Okay. So I'm sitting at the bar of the sushi restaurant and I love the bartender. It's a woman. A woman. So you know, it's a woman. We're just like vibing and like I'm alone and like I haven't I've been in Seattle all day by myself and it's like 630 now. So I haven't really had much human interaction.
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I'm just ready to chat. So I'm chatting with the bartender and she's like really proud of her craft and she's making me all these different cocktails like these fancy ones. So now I'm like three cocktails in. And I'm, like, feeling great. And it's, like, 7.30 on a Friday. And I'm closing my tab. And I'm, like, okay. Like, I had myself a nice day.
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Like, I'll go back to my hotel room and just, like, watch a show. Then this guy comes and sits down next to me at the bar. And he starts immediately striking up conversation. He's, like, this is my first time coming here. Like, what did you order? Did you like it? Immediately, I'm, like, I'm not attracted to you. But I'm not... I can tell you're very cozy and non-threatening and safe.
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
And I'm like... And there's something about when you're in a different city and you're not, like there's something. It was starting my Christmas vacation too. So I'm like, oh, like. Let's go. Yeah. Vacation's starting. I mean, I was going to drink responsibly because I'm alone in a new city, but like, I'm like down to like. Have a good time. Meet someone new. Love.
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
And so we start talking and the talk, the conversation is so enjoyable that at this point I had closed my tab and I reopened my tab to get another drink and like keep talking to him. Okay. And we're sitting at the bar talking for like 25 minutes. What the fuck are you talking about?
Call Her Daddy
Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
we were just like talking about like I was saying I was going to Olympic National Park and this is what I have planned for my trip and like okay nice what I have planned for the holidays and what he's up to and like we were just like chatting it up love and so now at this point it's probably like 7 30 okay and he was like well like you're alone tonight right I'm like yeah and he's like me too and he um he was like I actually was gonna go to another bar after this it's one of my favorite bars and there's a live show like do you want to come and I'm like
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
She goes, girls, Lauren, I'm so sorry, but... he's gay no in this moment we were like no no no no there's no way no because no way like like you have a great gaydar or something i was like this was full flirting i think but maybe i was flirting no i was laying my moves we were making contact we were making bets
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
Lauren, he's drinking a pink martini. He was also gay.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
You've been a wing woman for me like many, many times before.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
Yes. The last time that I was like single a while ago was for one month. Oh, yeah. That was bad. Back in 2018.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
Back in 2018, I was single for one month and I said, Big Al, I want to get out there and I want to. Where did we find this man?
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
I met him. You set me up with him and I was going to go home with him. And you were like, Well, like, I don't want to be alone.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
And he was out of town. And you say, just bring him back to Slim's house.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
I'm like so hungover and I'm so not into this. And I go get in the bed with you and I'm like, Alex, like this guy needs to leave. Like I don't want to like talk to him.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
So disgusting. We were like, what do we do? What do we do? What do we do? And I write him a note and I say, hey, so sorry. I had a great time, but I really need to die alone in peace. You got to go. And I went crept in, dropped the note. You stuck it under the door, gave it a little knock and then ran out.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
There is memorabilia, signed autographs, team jerseys, like all over. So this like New York City, like 20 year old boy, frat boy is going to like wake up and be like.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
i'm in a penthouse of like an mlb player and the funniest thing is you um when you first started to call her daddy you like hinted at this story that like you brought someone back like for a friend to slim shadies um when he was out of town And this guy found you like this guy heard the story and DM do a picture of the note. He kept the note.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
And we just were like, I can't talk to anyone like he just like needs to leave.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
Everything was in check, but Slim Shandy was not happy.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
Like pretty much every friend is in a relationship engaged or married.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
Yeah. I will say the one positive is being the only single one. Everyone's kind of excited to wing woman. Everyone's like, ooh, let me live vicariously through you a little bit.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
So that's a fun aspect. And another thing I will say that... to daddy gang who's maybe like on the verge of like, hmm, I know I need to end a relationship or wanting to end something and being scared about starting over at 30. Something I've realized is dating at 30, because the last time I was single, I was 26.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
Dating at 30 is so so much different than dating at 26 Like I feel like at least for my experience so far everyone is just like so like straightforward and like the games are like really really done and like it's not like am I gonna like obviously like I'm not just like gonna like Text people like so like there's some coyness to it, of course But it's like not games and it's straightforward and everyone's just like yeah Like I'm looking for someone then like I'm not fucking around which is like so nice.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
Now if someone's playing the game, I'm like, okay, well, it's not cool anymore.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
So next, at 26, if someone's playing the game, I'd be like, okay, maybe I'm a little bit into this.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
go out on like a sunday or like a tuesday like let's be straightforward and like not waste each other's time completely actually though i've run into two issues with my dating game that i would love your opinion on oh my god hit me okay issue number one i cannot end a date under three hours i have had no date go under three hours the longest so far being a first date lasting eight hours
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
I can't end it because in my mind, I'm like, what if they're a little nervous right now? Or like, what if like the spark's about to hit? And like while I'm here, like I might as well just like give it like let it run its course a little bit and like see if something pivots.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
I go on a very long first date with this guy. Eight hours. And we're drinking at a bar. And I just moved. And I'm telling him, like, he's like, what did you do earlier that day? And I'm like, oh, I went plant shopping. And, like, I got myself a new plant. Naturally. And he's like, oh, well, like, I'm moving tomorrow. And, like, I don't know what to do with my plants.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
Like, do you want to come and, like, get all of my plants? and like you can have all of my plants and i'm like fantastic like you're drunk you're like free plants are you fucking kidding me yes so then what happens though so i go over and i end up leaving and i don't leave with the plants but then the next day he gave you a foot massage yes no can i just tell that part
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
We have the one like iconic I'm thinking of. When is the last one that we spent together?
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
I guess you're fucked up so it's like yeah I was drunk at that point I was just like oh Okay. I think I was just in my head like, please don't pop a toe in your mouth. Please don't pop a toe in your mouth.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
Guys, I've been out there. I've been having experiences.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
besides this one i i hope i don't know what you're gonna say but i know what the one at matt's house yes when we moved to los angeles yes it was covid so classic i was just third wheeling matt and alex and i was single this was like the last time i was single so this is about like three years ago and matt comes in so proud and he's like lauren i'm gonna set you up with someone and it's gonna be a fantastic night
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
Guys, I have really nice plants now. Like I have so many plants. Like I don't know what to do with them.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
And they're like, they came with pots. Oh my God. And like, I've never owned this many plants now. And like now, like I feel like I'm like, A plant mom.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
Do you think you like when should I like start cutting it?
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
I think that's also the thing. Like, I've been really fortunate. Like, all the dates I've gone on, like, while there might not have been, like, enough chemistry to go on a second date, like, they were all, like, lovely people. Yeah, and you're, like, getting to know them. And, like... And myself.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
I never do Friday or Saturday. I'm a big Sunday date person.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
Yeah but I've been doing that that I'm like having drinks for three hours and now I'm like I'm really hungry so I might as well eat.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
I keep thinking that everyone's trying to kiss me goodbye and they're not. And so like they're going for a goodbye hug and I kiss them and it's really fucking awkward.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
so you're the problem lauren's like they're not trying to kiss me but i feel like it so i go in for it first i think what you have that is actually so fucking fair one was so bad i literally ran away and got in the uber wait what happened like he we were like going for the hug and like i thought like he was like gonna try to kiss me so i'd go and i kiss him and it was just like and i
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
So he doesn't really tell me anything. This guy walks in. He is a 45-year-old divorcee who breeds wolves.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
Okay, wait. So this was really distressing me. And I was talking to my one guy friend in Chicago. I'm like, has this ever happened to you? Like, this is an epidemic over here for me. And he's like, Lauren, here's my rule that I live hard and fast by.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
on the first date if the if a kiss does not happen during the actual date he's like i never kiss goodbye oh because a goodbye kiss there's so much pressure and it's so forced so he was like now sit and he's like so like if you're like sitting we're doing a tutorial if you're like sitting and like talking he's like if you're like knees are touching like you're going for the kiss during the date like then normal natural chemistry but he's like if it doesn't happen on the actual date
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
Yeah, I'm down for that. But... Oh, oh. And he brought a half wolf, half dog.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
OK, this is my mistake. There's no sexual chemistry or no sexual tension. And then I try to plan a kiss on him.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
Okay, so that's a really good tangible example of tension and chemistry.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
You do. It's like we're not exaggerating. This thing was like massive times the size of Henry.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
Yeah, cute, cute. I love games. Okay. Okay, so I have a game and it's New Year's theme since today is New Year's Day and it's stuff
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
things that people normally do during the new year oh and we i'm gonna name them okay and then if you could see yourself doing it in the new year have a drink um go back to your natural hair color absolutely not oh i'll drink i'm kind of doing that right now by choice or by
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
I'm a little darker than I would like to be right now. Lauren has been crying.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
When's the last time you had your natural hair color?
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
When was the last time you had your natural hair color? High school.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
I would fucking love nothing more than a dog, but I live in an apartment building. I travel too much. No dog. No dog for me.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
I just live off Bruce. Yes. You love Bruce. Take a drink if you would go on a solo trip in the new year.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
It's on my like little short bucket list that I have before I get in a relationship. I think that would be a good experience for me. Like I kind of want to follow in Kristen's footsteps and do like a surfing retreat. But the issue is the last time I went surfing, I broke my foot.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
Have a drink if you would get a tattoo in the new year. Absolutely not. I think if you see me getting a tattoo, it's like a little bit of like a pink flag that I'm having a minty bee.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
i gotta somehow find a way to contact your therapist no i think we're not tattoo girls no we've just i don't have a single tattoo you don't have a single tattoo i don't you would pass out because you can't do needles i literally before when i heard that i would just literally pass out okay but like gun to your head you had to get a tattoo like right now like what would you get
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
I've, like, lightly thought about it. And I'm like, like, maybe, like, something to honor my dad. But, like, I don't want to be the girl with the dead dad tattoo. No, I think you can just, like...
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
I'm going to do when I visit you in L.A. because I want to do like I don't want someone to like fuck me up. Like I think you can.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
Have a drink in the new year if you would try ayahuasca. Absolutely not. Like, I'm curious. Like, I think it sounds really intense.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
But it sounds like, what do you think? Say you wouldn't shit your pants. What spiritual journey do you think you would go on, go on in your ayahuasca journey? Oh my fucking God.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
But I in my adult life, I feel like there's no one that they're going to call you up during the wedding and be like, Alex Cooper is the reason we're married.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
Wait, do you talk to dead people in ayahuasca? No, I think in ayahuasca, you confront whatever demons you haven't confronted. And maybe that's having a conversation with a dead person who you feel you didn't have closure with.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
Like a demon, your inner demons. Do you have any inner demons that you want to talk to us about today?
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
And OK, OK, I will give you credit like you have been coming through for me and you have been wing woman me wing womaning.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
I had many cocktail versions at the launch party in New York, but those were just like a bartender making them.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
Ended 2024 making a really, really hard decision to end my relationship that I'm really proud of. So I want to go into 2025 not settling and being really, really fucking intentional and not getting antsy, not getting impatient, not feeling like shit about myself and just taking my time and just not settling.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
You've been so intentional. I was even talking about you to, like, my Chicago friends, and I was just like, I really admire, like, you've been so intentional with your relationships this past year. Well, I love you.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
This man from Miami who was another man that you like came over and you were like, oh, like this is my friend Lauren. And like you were smoothing me for me.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
It's like 1.30 a.m. So like all the girls we're with leave. So I'm just at the bar and it's me and a table full of guys. And I'm like, this is a dream. Like Alex came through. She put her reputation on the line. She didn't ruin it.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
None of them. Because at like 2 a.m., I'm like working it, laying my moves still. And my friends call me and they're like, Lauren, we have your location. We see you're at a bar around the corner. Come meet us. And I don't see my friends who live in New York City that often. So I get so excited. And I'm like, oh my God, okay. And I just tell the guys, all right, bye guys.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
You kind of like can't go skiing with someone. I mean, you can, but like... Then you'll hate them. Yeah, it sucks.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
And my seat number. So he like could like know it was who to look for.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
I like we were hung over as fuck because we were out until like 3 a.m. the night before. I'm in like a sweatsuit. I have not an ounce of makeup on.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
I literally was like, do we ask for ice? And like I like ice roll my face with like ice from like the plane.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
At first, I thought this was a disaster because I'm like, my husband's getting away. But then... And then I realized, hold on, Lauren.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
He had some nice like joggers on, some like athletic sneakers.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
So it feels like we go to sleep, we're like, ooh, like we're a little sore.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
And we're like building it up in our heads more and more. Like I'm like, I'm going to. Completely. Fall in love.
Call Her Daddy
How to be the Ultimate Wingwoman
We thought maybe he'd be coming on like our New Year's trip with us.
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
All right. Well, I'm Lauren. Me and Lex met, I want to say, what was that, 20? It was definitely before BBL.
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
It had to have been. Okay, we met 2014 through a mutual friend. Shout out, Jazz.
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
We both worked at the strip club together. I got fired. And so, Lex... I was low-key your replacement. She was really my replacement. And so, from that, everybody would be like, oh, you need to meet Lex. Like, y'all would get along so well. So, one of our mutual friends ended up introducing us. And from there, we were like peas in a pod. Like, we literally were inseparable just from that.
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
I remember her. She just wasn't a clean person. I found rolled up dollar bills with substances in it, drawers, all types of stuff. Crunchy ones? Crunchy ones, for sure. That's... But, yeah, definitely wasn't a clean person. And I can say for me, like, it's just a deal breaker because I feel like you got to be clean.
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
I mean, I have, but I'm one to, like, I don't like having dishes in the sink. Yeah. So it's like I may be tired, lit, you know, go to sleep, but the next day, I'm going to get the dishes out. Like, you eat in there for days and days. It's kind of crazy. I got to get it out.
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
I don't like my... Well, it's really not... I would say hair. Like, I don't really like hair in between my toes and stuff like that. So, like, I'm a sweeper. I'm going to sweep. You're going to sweep every day. Allie is the same way.
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
Lauren Hanson. Thank you, y'all. Thank you. I've been trying to do what I can do when I can do it.
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
Is this a color? Like a painted color nail? Or is it just I got a manicure and my nails are clean?
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
But what do y'all think? What do y'all feel? I mean, if it's just like a clear coat and you just keeping up with maintenance, you know what I mean? I'm fine with it. Now, I don't know if colored nails is my thing. I just would prefer my man to not have polish on his nails. And no shade to anybody who does have it. But me personally, no. I'm cool with a cool manicure, but colored nails, no. No?
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
Right. The only positive thing I can say about it is that sometimes watching Kevin Samuels and stuff, it's like, damn, this is the perspective that men have?
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
So it kind of puts things into like... Like I snap into reality like, damn, you know... this is how people, or men, view us. Yeah. You know, I definitely take no, but, like I said, I still would judge, but I do kind of pick up a few things, like, okay, well, this is wild.
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
Alise! Bitch, no, because if I know it's a situation ship, bitch, I leave it there.
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
I mean, for me, it really doesn't matter. Like, of course, I would like to spend time with my man on Valentine's Day, but I'm all for a good girl's night on Valentine's Day, too. Or if it's, like, before Valentine's Day, I get to experience my girls, but then Valentine's Day, it's me and mine. So, I'm fine with both of them, personally. Okay. What you think, Elise?
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
Lies. I hosted a Galentine's. But you weren't in town. It was me, Jazz Katie.
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
For sure. Ain't nothing wrong with that. I like both of them, though. Both of them is fine with me.
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
What y'all think? But, yeah, I'm with Lynn. Like, I feel like it's one day for you to be, like, extremely sexual and just... Really get into it. Show out. I mean, I like to show out all the time, whether it's Valentine's Day or not. But, I mean, that is one day to kind of, like, you know, turn it up a notch. Pull out your best tricks. Mm-hmm. Elise?
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
Yeah, yeah. I was really open-minded. Like, I kind of just wanted to see where things would go. Yeah. So, as you guys progressed, I'm like, damn, they really about to be all here with it, you know? Yeah. So, for me, I can say that, like, I was always excited, and I felt like you guys balance each other out. So, it was always going to work.
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
You know, you guys just needed that platform to get where y'all needed to be. So, for me, I'm just excited to see y'all. Y'all are doing a great job. Oh, thank you. It's been a pleasure to watch y'all from the beginning up until now.
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
Larry June. and the chains I've been, it's really my bop. I just really fuck with the vibe of the record. I don't really have, like, an extensive meaning behind it or whatever, but I've really been fucking with that. Is this new? It's new. Okay. I love some Larry's.
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
They have, like, a joint album that they're doing together. Oh. I didn't know that. Yeah. Okay. I want to save the single, so.
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
I like Pookie's Requiem better. Yeah. If I said that right.
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
So, I like her first single. Her first single. This one is cool, but I just like that one better.
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
He's with his wife. Yeah, having the greatest grand old time. What's the status of their relationship? I think I missed that part. She didn't say, really.
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
He don't give a damn. Right, that's what I'm saying. And I'm sorry, friend. I hate to be so harsh because I want to be gentle because I know this is fucking with you. But, you know, you got to call a spader.
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
Mm-mm. I'm public, so shit, I be posting everything. But it started off... But you were just close friends. Well, we started off like close friends for sure, but then it was just kind of... Yeah.
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
Like, it definitely feels good to know that you comfortable, you know, showing me off to people. So...
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
He is not in my close friends, but I really haven't posted anything, though. I haven't posted anything. Yes.
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
Are you an engineer? We literally do got a studio right there. So you really know how to, like...
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
Girl. Girl. not to be. Don't you be ashamed to say, I'm your girl.
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
a first impression because I don't know, you guys had, or I guess our friend Jazz had came to Atlanta. So I'd only heard about, you know. That was a disaster of a trip. From what I heard, it was a disaster. And so I never really got to have a first impression because I feel like people were already telling me like their impressions of Drea.
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
So for me, it was like, okay, let me just meet her to see because God damn, y'all laying it on thick. So once I actually met her, In comparison to what everybody was saying, she was the complete opposite with me. Like, it was literally always nice, always welcoming. So for me, my first impression just without everybody else's say, I don't have anything negative to say.
Pour Minds Podcast
Where My Gurls At? FT. Our Besties
Like, it was just like, we literally clicked. We were cool. And I didn't really get to see a side or the side that I feel like everybody else had kind of. Yeah. That trip was a mess.
The Commercial Break
12 Days Of TCB: Bryan's Escape!
My boyfriend's name is Jeremy. He's super hot and he knows how to break it down.
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12 Days Of TCB: Bryan's Escape!
So here's what's up. My mom and dad think my boyfriend Jeremy is bad news. So they each set me up on a blind date. My mom's choice is up first. She really likes funny guys, so I bet he'll make me laugh.
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12 Days Of TCB: Bryan's Escape!
I walked in the door. He seemed sweet and really good-looking.
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We got these surfboards. We're not by the ocean. What's going on?
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12 Days Of TCB: Bryan's Escape!
It's so much fun. I think scurfing is my new favorite sport.
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12 Days Of TCB: Bryan's Escape!
He has a bad temper tantrum problem. That's not good. I don't have a bad temper tantrum problem. Wow. Do you have a bad temper?
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12 Days Of TCB: Bryan's Escape!
I just got back from my date with Chad and it was crazy fun.
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12 Days Of TCB: Bryan's Escape!
Any second. I hope this guy is just as adventurous.
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Are you nervous? You have nothing to worry about.
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12 Days Of TCB: Bryan's Escape!
When I first saw Dylan, he definitely looked like an athlete. I love Josh. Does he?
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Honestly, I first noticed your hair. I think it's sexy.
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So what did you first think about me when you saw me?
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12 Days Of TCB: Bryan's Escape!
Well, I hope you're not too tired because I think you still owe me a massage.
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12 Days Of TCB: Bryan's Escape!
I just got back from a date with Dylan, and he really made me sweat. What a hottie.
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12 Days Of TCB: Bryan's Escape!
Do I stay with Jeremy or go with one of the guys my parents chose? This is a really tough choice.
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12 Days Of TCB: Bryan's Escape!
Guys, this is an experience I'll never forget. But it all comes down to this. I think I know who I want. But before I make my big decision, I'm going to give you one more chance each to tell me why I should pick you.
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12 Days Of TCB: Bryan's Escape!
Thanks, guys. That was really sweet. But I still need to get rid of one of you right now.
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12 Days Of TCB: Bryan's Escape!
Wood family. Dylan, you are so good looking, but your personality blows, just like our dude. Whoa. Damn.
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And now the hard part. Chad, you are so creative and athletic, but I'm afraid you may be too quiet for me. And Jeremy, we have so much fun together, but I am sick of being insulted.
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12 Days Of TCB: Bryan's Escape!
I have no idea, but at least I'm with the real man now.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: The Day Journalism Died (feat. Ron Magill)
You're listening to Giraffe Kings Network.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: The Day Journalism Died (feat. Ron Magill)
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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: The Day Journalism Died (feat. Ron Magill)
You're starting it. So once we are going live on camera, I'm going to tell you to turn around. The minute you turn around, you start banging the drum.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: The Day Journalism Died (feat. Ron Magill)
You do it up to three to four times. If the crowd is really going, five.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
That changed everything. He's like, you're actually the teacher. And I was like, oh, okay. Okay. And I had never seen it that way before. So it was, that was a huge eye opener and a really good perspective to understand what was going on.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
Oh, I mean, it was like huge because I started to understand. Obviously, my understanding of everything got so much more clear. And I took my role very seriously because because I cared about you. And also I was able to they had like a new window into why you were the way you were. It wasn't just because initially I think I probably had the perception like I'm not good enough for this.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
He's withholding something from me because I'm not enough. was the initial story I kind of formulated from that. But then having the understanding of, okay, Rob is the way he is because of what he experienced. And it's not that he's withholding. He's just, he needs to learn. Like he just doesn't have the context or the background to be where you are with love.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
And I was like, oh my God, I, I just had never realized that. And so once I I understood the assignment. I knew exactly what I needed to do. And I can't say I stepped into it like right away. It took me a little bit of time to.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
I had a better understanding, but then it did take me some time to really feel safe to, I guess it was like, I was still a little bit afraid that I wasn't going to, it wasn't going to be reciprocated.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
And for whatever reason I, that, that was important for me at that point.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
Yeah, it was totally me going into protection mode because I wasn't allowing myself to be just, you know, my true self, which is so much more loving.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
Yeah. It doesn't mean it is the answer. It's just ours from where we're currently standing.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
Yeah. It's highlighting something within you. Yeah. I think everything shifted once I started working on myself more because you'd been working on yourself for some time before I really started to dive deeper into my own growth. And, um, it does change everything for the relationship because you can only really love someone to the extent that you're loving yourself.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
Yeah. Well, I was just, I think what ended up kicking all of that off was one day you asked me, you were like, are you happy? And I was like, No. And it wasn't because of anything that was going on around me or within our relationship. It had everything to do with my self-talk and Then I finally decided to say out loud all of the things that I was saying to myself in my head.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
And it started the moment I woke up and I would just start my routine of just shit talking to myself. And yeah, of course I was not happy because the things I was saying were horrible.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
Oh, I'd be like, okay, well, here you are not getting up again on time because you're just so lazy and you have nothing to get up for anyway. So like, you know, you don't have any purpose. And of course you don't have any purpose because you're stupid. Right. And so it was like just this endless thing like, oh, well, of course you're running late because you can't get your shit together enough.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
And oh, look at you. Are you breaking out again? Because you're ugly and you're gross. Like, I mean, I was horrible to myself. It was like every single thing that I would say. And at that time, I was physically manifesting all kinds of crazy stuff, right? Like I was breaking out so bad. So it's like everything that I was feeling on the inside was coming out on the outside. Yeah, I had eczema.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
I had a whole, I mean, for me, it showed up with a bunch of different skin issues and I was really struggling. And the more I started to like physically manifest all of these skin issues, of course, like the more gross I would feel. And then it would just, it was a cycle. And so, you know, I was doing everything skin care wise and I became obsessed.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
And then some one common thread whenever I was reading and reading and trying to figure out what to do for my skin was always like remove stress, anxiety and and you need to just care for yourself, you know, self-care. And then that's like a combination of that. And then you also asking me if I was happy. I was like, you know, what's the emotional side of everything that I haven't tackled?
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
Like I'm just being such an asshole to myself. And so saying out loud what I was saying to myself in my head really made me more conscious of everything. And I was like, this is disgusting. Because I would never say those things to anybody else. So why the hell was I saying it to myself? And then from there, I just was really consciously shifting the things that I would say.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
I would have to switch it. Whatever I said about my, if I said something mean, I would have to say something nice. And I also worked really hard at reprogramming. So I got mala beads and I would pick, I would just Google like, what is a self-love mantra? And I sat there with my mala beads.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
And if I even for one bead felt like I became unconscious and was just going through the motions, I would go back. and re say that mantra and be very present with every single bead so that every day I was reprogramming what I was saying to myself. And that was my ritual in the morning every single day. And then what ended up happening is I remember, I remember one day I was making the bed
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
And I was, I randomly said something to, all I said to myself out of nowhere was, Lauren, you're so awesome. And I was like, holy shit, like this is not something old Lauren would have said. And I didn't have like a real good reason for like feeling like I was super awesome. I mean, I was literally just making the bed.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
But it was then that I knew I had finally created a change in myself because I said something nice for no reason.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
Yeah. And I think it's also a process of just getting out of your head and into your heart with practices. I mean, I, a huge thing that helped me even with like anxiety and everything, just dealing was getting out of my head through heart math, which is just basically a combination of breathing and focus and connecting with your body and how you feel and
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
And when you can do that, you're connecting with what's real instead of these thoughts and stories that have accumulated over time.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
Yeah, I think this is something so sweet and special that my dad started when I was... I mean, I couldn't even tell you how old I was, but it was just a ritual that started every single night. Before I went to bed, he would tuck me in and he would say, what does love mean? And I would come up with whatever I thought love meant that day. Love means, you know... making breakfast with your family.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
yeah no and i think that that's also like kind of to what we're saying it's a product of us not looking for what we need internally from each other because we're both conscious that we need to provide that to ourselves and so i don't need to make you anything but what you are because i'm already giving myself everything that i need yeah right like that's what we're working towards anyway right
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
right something that somebody said once that really helped me with this is to fully understand that everybody's doing the best with what they have or doing the best as they doing the best they can yeah you know so i think that that's also important because we can have really big expectations for what we think somebody should be doing but that's of course from your perspective yeah and you're coming from a completely different background set of experiences than someone else and so to expect that from somebody else is
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
It's not fair. Yeah. And if you can truly lean into the loving side of yourself, you will believe that everybody is doing the best that they can. Why would anybody want to do anything less?
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
Love means giving, you know, your friend a hug or whatever, you know, came to mind for me that day, but it was really cute because every day, I mean, every night that was a question he would ask me.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
Right. Well, cause your perception is your reality. And when your perception is, is shaped from a completely different set of experiences, then you can start to understand why someone else's perception is everybody's going to have a wildly different one.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
And that allows for more empathy for people because you don't have to understand why someone's acting the way that they are, but you can be understanding and hold compassion for them knowing that you truly just don't know what they're going through. And it's okay. You don't have to.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
Oh, what is love? I feel like love is when you can get down to the true version of yourself and show kindness and compassion and care for someone else and yourself.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
Yeah, I feel like I have been really fortunate to come from a childhood and a background where love was very abundant. I mean, like everybody gave and showed love very freely. my, my mom was a stay at home mom. And so I had her with me at all times. And she was like my best friend growing up. I remember like in high school, we went on a girl's trip and my mom was the only mom that couldn't come.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
And I legitimately cried at the airport saying bye to my mom. And like, I was a teenage girl, you know, I was probably like 16 or 17. Um, Yeah. Like just, I loved my parents. My parents loved me. I had two little sisters and we all just, I mean, yeah, my experience of, I was just, I'm super grateful. I'm very blessed with how loving of a background I was brought up in.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
Yeah. So I feel like I have love for other people. You know, I really care about them. They mean a lot to me. I will genuinely love a lot of my friends, you know, pretty quickly. Like I just appreciate and have gratitude for these people and I love them. Um, to me being in love is a little bit different because, and again, I think this is like where I stand right now.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
Cause this is always evolving and changing. But as I was thinking about it, to me, it's somebody that. you can be completely vulnerable with and feel safe to be your full self around. You don't have to edit yourself in any way. And you want to have every experience of life with this person. What I mean by that is like,
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
there's friends that i really like to go to you know to travel with or there's friends that i like to do podcasts with or there's friends that i want to just go shopping with right like there's different people for different things and i love them but then there's also times where like i don't necessarily want to be around that person not because there's anything wrong with them but it's there's there's just you know there's something there that like maybe i don't feel safe opening up to them about certain things or maybe doing certain things
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
But when you're in love with somebody, I feel like you're in such a state of being your true self that you want more from your experience with them and you want to experience everything with them. Not only just like being together and showing them love, but like
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
passion and even whether it's like intimately or sexually like you want that with them too right because i don't want that with everybody but being in love with somebody that's such a beautiful part of the human experience is the intimacy and that i feel like is another added component of being in love with someone that's something else you want to experience with them
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
What a relief it is when you can be that vulnerable and have it met with love by somebody that you really care about. Like that feels so good. And I think that's where the healing starts to happen is because if like for me, when there's been times where I'm like, oh, this is the not cute real part of me that like,
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
just hoping for the best, but like, I'm going to just go into this and be fully transparent, fully vulnerable. And you meet that with love. I really believe in everything that you have feedback on, right? Like I value your opinion. And so when you give me feedback, that's in alignment with love for something that I was judging within myself.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
It's like, oh my God, it gives you just like such a different perspective. And then you can feel so much relief in that. And I think that's what gets you back to that state where you are more in alignment with your true self, which I think we're all love. I think the true version of all of ourselves is so much more in alignment with love. So then it puts you into that state of being in love.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
Yeah. And that, I mean, it just puts so much pressure and expectation on someone else to be something.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
It's interesting because I think, I mean, again, we talk about like coming back to like our true selves and being in love and my natural self is much more open.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
And I think that because you were having a little bit of a hard time with fully opening up to the way I expressed love when we first got together, I started pumping the brakes a little bit and I started to create an idea in my mind of how you
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
wanted me to be and of course i wanted to be in alignment with that so i started to withhold love and that creates a lot of issues on two levels number one i'm withholding love from this person that i care about which is limiting your experience of me and also it's just not natural for me to be that way and so when i realized that was happening
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
It was a huge shift for us in our relationship because I could tell there was like a wall building. But at that point in time, I didn't have like a whole lot of self-awareness. I just felt like there was just something blocking us. And it's like we had gotten to this like... Which I knew it was possible for there to be more.
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
I knew there was more out there for us, but the level of vulnerability, it just wasn't there. So once that was brought to our attention, I think that that was actually, was that through John when we went and did the therapy?
The Mindset Mentor
What is Love?
Yeah, that I actually became more conscious of the fact that I was actually withholding love. I thought that I was just being who you wanted me to be. And I also, I wasn't aware of how much I was actually holding back until that point in time.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
55: Stories from Run Reigate runners as they crossed the finish line, the big Redhill Arts Takeover week… and more
Eric and Lauren, how did it go, Lauren?
The Planet Reigate Podcast
55: Stories from Run Reigate runners as they crossed the finish line, the big Redhill Arts Takeover week… and more
Yeah, really good for our first 10k. Really good. Yeah, enjoyed that. Did you run together? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, stuck together. Yeah.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
55: Stories from Run Reigate runners as they crossed the finish line, the big Redhill Arts Takeover week… and more
keep pushing we've been running 5k's pretty much since january two three days a week we only tried a 10k last friday um i don't know if it was stupid or not but we did it and here we are so we've managed it okay well let's turn to you was that a stupid thing to do in retrospect or yeah and no i mean i suppose yeah but it motivated us for today i suppose
The Planet Reigate Podcast
55: Stories from Run Reigate runners as they crossed the finish line, the big Redhill Arts Takeover week… and more
And how have you helped Stripey Stork today? We've set up a GoFundMe page. We've helped raise quite a lot of money for Stripey Stork for children. So yeah, quite positive.
The Ramsey Show
There’s Always a Way out of a Financial Spiral
Yeah. So we are a family of four. I've got a five-year-old, sorry, a family of five new baby. He doesn't really count. So family of five, I'm spending $1,300 a month. And when we first moved here, I was spending it at a really nice store. And when that got too out of hand, I moved down to a store that didn't have as good of quality stuff. When that got too out of hand, I moved to a different one.
The Ramsey Show
There’s Always a Way out of a Financial Spiral
So for some reason, I just can't kick the $1,300 a month.
The Ramsey Show
There’s Always a Way out of a Financial Spiral
We don't have any debt except for a mortgage, and we've got some savings. Spend $1,400.
The Ramsey Show
There’s Always a Way out of a Financial Spiral
No, everything I make is generally pretty homemade. We have chickens, we do sourdough.
The Ramsey Show
There’s Always a Way out of a Financial Spiral
We stopped doing it because it was so expensive. But I really, really care about buying from local farms and dairies because I like how they treat their animals better. And I think that the chemicals and things aren't in there as much. Yeah. But we stopped doing that because it was $10 a gallon.
The Ramsey Show
There’s Always a Way out of a Financial Spiral
Hi. I just have been tracking my budget for the last year, asking friends who have similar families as me living in the area how much they're spending on groceries every month. And I am over by a couple hundred dollars every month. I've tried to bring it down, but I just am not willing to compromise on certain healthy foods. And I've already made several compromises the past couple years.
The Ramsey Show
There’s Always a Way out of a Financial Spiral
So I just want to know how much should I be willing to compromise on healthy food in order to keep a budget?
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
100%.
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Thanks for having me.
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
I did. Yeah, I'm a big fan of you guys. I've been listening to you guys for a while. And then I was listening yesterday as I was getting ready and I was like screaming at my phone, hearing Natalie like defend me. And I was like, that is my girl. Thank you. Yes, you are my girl. I feel it.
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Correct. I mean, your world's not mine.
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Yeah, I mean, I think that they were all so valid. And I was thinking about how I'm sure there are so many couples and people out there having this exact conversation and like seeing these perspectives. And honestly, I remember thinking those same perspectives at the time, too, when we were going through it, like I was having such a hard time
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
knowing my truth and then like seeing how it was playing out. And I tried so hard to do so much perspective taking. And you'd like, see that a little bit where I'm like, this is fair. Like that would suck to get your phone back and have people say things about your new fiance. And then you have to figure out who's right and who's wrong and what's going on.
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
And that wasn't even my argument about it. My argument was like, put me in the room with them. Like they're having all of these conversations that I'm not part of. And they have these like pieces of evidence that are not true. Just like, let me speak to them. And that wasn't happening. So that was where most of my frustration was coming from. And I feel that now watching you back.
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Yeah. Well, and you'll like see this play out a little bit more. But I was not with him the weekend before I left. I saw him like a week before. It really was a very like to the how do I say this? It was a friends with benefits situation. It started where we were like, maybe there could be a romantic connection there, but then casting conversations are happening for months.
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
And like, he knew that I was having that. And so he was like, we can keep things casual. It honestly felt like best of both worlds for both of us at the time, because like he was dating other people too. He was going on dates. I remember seeing his picture on like, are we dating the same guy? People were setting up dates with him.
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
So we were both, I felt like things were very clear that we were not romantically interested in each other.
The Viall Files
E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Yeah. We didn't talk about it a ton, mainly because we weren't really sitting there having a lot of conversations, but it definitely came up.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Yes and no. I remember thinking with this guy, like, okay, I'm having these conversations to potentially go on a show where I could get married. Do I like this guy enough? Because here is this connection that I have in one way. Do I like this guy enough to say, fuck the show, I'm going to pursue things with him?
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
I remember being like, no, I don't like him enough to do that, to make that sacrifice and not go on this experience. And in terms of, again, we had come off of, I think when we were filming, we were watching the season with Trevor and his girlfriend.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
And I remember I was like kind of freaking out in the moment and being like, oh my God, is this how the world is going to see me now that this is all playing out? But again, at the time I'm basing my perspective on what my narrative was and like my truth with this guy. And so I just never in a million years thought that this would be part of the story at all.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Just letting me be part of the conversation with his friends that were chirping in his ear about it. I just wanted to talk to them. I wanted to compare stories.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
I truly think that his friends and his sister were basing the decisions on their involvement or not on what Dave was telling them.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
I do.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
I'll be really nice.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
It was embarrassing. And also like, I remember being like, this really proves my point. Like you are helping me with this story here. I don't, I was like, I rest my case.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
um between dave and i yeah yeah yeah you'll see that kind of continue to play out did you feel in that moment uh that he was just trying to find a way out of the marriage i do like i yes that definitely came up but i think i might have even said that to him at one point like there are a lot of outs you can take and you'll see him or you have seen him try to take outs where he
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
has conversations about his sister. And there's some other stuff that comes up that I'm like, are you just trying to find the out that sticks the most right now? And obviously this guy was, I think the biggest one. So yeah, I did have that. At that time, I don't know if I fully listened to my gut as much as I should have on it in the moment.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
There are a couple other things that come up. You'll see some other things that I think makes Dave question Dave. we should be getting married or not. And I don't think that they have anything to do with me and more to do with where his head was at.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
That was definitely like, I mean, going into this experience, obviously you're hopeful for what could come, but like, I just have never, you see me at one point say, I've never felt this like connected to someone so quickly. And so I surprised myself how invested I got with him and with this experience. And you see me like fight for it really hard. And so I did see marriage.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
I remember thinking like, okay, we'll get married, we'll break up or we'll not get married, but we'll stay together. And all of those at the time felt like potential next steps for us. But yeah, marriage was definitely on the table for sure for me.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Honestly, no, because I think looking back, like I tried to explain things in so many different ways and tried to really understand his perspective and then like speak to that. Yeah. I think at that point there was nothing I could have said or done differently to have Dave see it.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Yeah. And that has been pretty jarring to watch back. And it happens too when he meets my friends and I get emotional and there's not a lot of comfort happening. And I felt that in the moment. And it's really sad to watch it back and feel that again.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Yeah, for sure. And I remember thinking too, like your friends are giving you this whole different narrative. And every time you talk to them, you get like more angry at me or more confused about the situation. So if you and I are supposed to be a team, why are we continuing to go back to those people and have the same conversations that are not productive at all?
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Exactly.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
I think it was a little more dramatized than it felt in the moment. And like Molly and I are friends and we've talked since about conversations that they've had. So I knew that obviously they knew that they had a connection and I knew that he was validating her as well as me. And so watching it back, I wasn't too surprised. I kind of had a feeling that that was... story.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Okay, that edit shocked me because that's not what I was saying. I was telling him that I got a wax and then I had a spin class scheduled for that night. And they were telling me that you can't work out, you can't have sex, you can't do any of these things. And I was so bummed because I hadn't worked out in like two weeks. And my jaw was on the floor. I was like, I don't talk like that.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
I'm like, in what world would I have said that? Oh my God. I'm glad there were having people that messaged me and they were like, this editing looked a little wonky. I'm like, thank you.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
I mean, I think in terms of him asking other people like that clip of scenes, I remember thinking like one thing Dave is going to do is be himself. And you see him say, I was just genuinely curious and he just wanted to talk to people about it. I don't know. It didn't surprise me that he was having those conversations because he speaks his mind and doesn't really filter through questions.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
I mean, the way some of his jokes, especially in the pods were portrayed, it comes off much more serious than it felt in the moment. Like it was very lighthearted. He would always follow it up with like a laugh or like, and again, I know that if he said anything is absolutely insane, there'd be a line to cross, but like, it felt very bantery in the moment. It like,
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
yeah, it's hard to watch back and have people see it.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
I did. And I remember like I said, I, when we were having this conversation, I was like, I'm, I feel crazy right now. Like, I feel like I'm, my communication is not getting through and I'm, I feel like a slut. And like, I hadn't really felt that before. Like, again, I just, you see me say, I've never had to defend my character like this.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Like, I don't understand why this thing is like the end all be all for me. and the kind of person I am right now. So yeah, I remember saying like, my Nona watches this show, my boss watches this show, and we are just airing out my sexual history for the world. Yeah.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
No, it's hard to answer because I was so focused on my own shit. I'm focused on Dave. There's a little bit of stuff going on with Molly. I talked about this before too, but I was talking to Mason up until like a couple of days towards the end too. And I had no idea that he was having any of these conversations with Meg or Madison. So I was shocked to see it all come to a head.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
I think you kind of see Meg and Madison handle things differently and like approach it differently. But I wouldn't say I left. I remember leaving and people were like, how were the girls? Were they all insanely toxic? And I'm like, no, everyone was just trying their best. And that looked different for different people.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Yeah, I'm going to be so honest with you guys. I skipped through a lot of those. Fair enough. I was watching mine. I wanted to make sure I understood the story.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Honestly. But I didn't fully get what was going on in the lounge at the time. And I still don't fully get it. Like, honestly, you guys have probably a better perspective on it than me. I do.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Or like, that's not what I thought he looked like. It is funny to think back because like, I'm sure as a viewer, you're probably like, okay, I wonder how they think the other person looks. But I really tried to not spend too much time putting people in these like physical boxes. Um, I was shocked. Joey had long hair. I had no idea that that's what he looked like. Um,
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
I remember I'm trying to think about anyone else. There wasn't anyone I was super surprised by. And there wasn't anyone that I was like, oh, damn, I made a mistake.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
So it's not exactly copy and paste.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Yeah, that to use Nick's words, I remember at the time thinking two things can be true. Ben could have not been a good partner to women in the past. And this girl on TikTok also really wants her 15 minutes of fame and wants some clout. Like I remember really seeing both of those pieces. And I don't know, it was hard to watch Sarah be conflicted on how to look at things.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
And I think she did such a good job of saying, I'm not going to dismiss her. And I trust you, but Like I'm remembering this or I'm not like dismissing this information.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
I definitely think there's a reason that there are these conversations happening with many women, not just that one TikTok girl.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Well, I think like if you and again, this is another like don't go watch that TikTok and like give her attention. But like there are people having conversations about that and validating her in ways.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Well, more so when that was happening at the time, like there were there were comments in that video or like people saying things to her like, oh, yeah, I also knew Ben or I had this experience. There were some of those.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Yeah.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
heads up or or just like something to look for you know as we consume these next batch of episodes I don't think that there's anything like to clear up I do think that they're doing a good job of like telling our story and the way that it felt in the moment and there's like a lot of frustration with that unfortunately I don't think the frustration is done after this week there will be a little bit more to come there
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
Great.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
But like, let me cook.
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E892 - Traitors w/ Chanel Ayan, LIB w/ Lauren, RHOBH, Kate Hudson Flirting 101, and White Lotus
I mean, I personally think you'll want to have me.
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E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
And we want to tell our friend that we don't want to hang out with him anymore.
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E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
It just constantly tows the line of, we hang out with him because we feel so bad for him. You know, we may not want to, and like, we don't hate him. It's just that we feel so bad. So we agreed to have plans with him, but then, you know, it's like every single week, it's not an exaggeration. Like I don't see my parents that often.
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E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
A mixture of like complaining about stuff, but also just kind of like flexing the, you know, lawyer-ness on us or.
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E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
is also just not wanting to, like, completely break up with him because we do think that he's so alone. It's just, like, not, like, breaking his heart totally, you know? Like I said, it just keeps toeing the line of, like, we feel so bad for him, but we know we need to do this.
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E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
Yeah, I think, honestly, it's important to note that the law school he went to is in our current city, too. So, like, you don't have any law school friends or, you know, you went to this big high school also and you don't know anybody from there that currently lives in our city. Like, it just kind of all adds up.
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E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
I guess just kind of like what we talked about where when he was with his girlfriend, we felt like she toned him down a lot. Right. Because she, you know, could also say the same things to us about being a lawyer and blah, blah, blah. But, you know, she would call him out and like he didn't feel like, I guess, as prestigious, you know, when there was another lawyer sitting next to him in the room.
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E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
But like now when it's just him, like then he can just, you know, blab about his lawyer-ness to us or like other narcissistic things.
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E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
Yeah, I think actually, you know, hopefully like I'm working on this big case and we're like, cool, you know, well, I think it just flies right over his head.
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E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
And I think just like going back to how he said this has been an ongoing thing for, you know, over five years, five to 10 years now is just that because he didn't really have that group of friends, you know, in college or maybe ever. I feel like he kind of thinks that like now we can have this big college group friend and like, you know, those people that see each other every day.
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E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
I also think this is just an important conversation to have with him because eventually we're going to have to break the news that he's not invited to Jim's bachelor party. Yeah.
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E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
Yeah, that's fair. I mean, like I said, his law school is in our city and I've thought about it to myself before just asking like, hey, do you ever still hang out with people from law school?
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E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
Well, I think a good example is that we actually are having an engagement party this weekend. And last week he asked to hang out on that day, which he's already invited to it. So he just forgot that our engagement party is on Friday, but like wants to hang out with us, even though he is invited. Yeah.
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204: Love It or Leave It..
And I had a jacket. But he like remembers that. I've never thought to ask a guy that I've dated if they remember what I was wearing when they first met me.
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Well, and I've dated both. And like, it wasn't, it wasn't like one was better than the other because they noticed things. It was just like one just,
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noticed things just all like was just very detail oriented that's the way that his brain worked and then the other one was like showed love in a different way but like didn't notice things like wouldn't notice if i'd cut off four inches of my hair yeah so um i don't know it is it is interesting like obviously it's nice this is a different situation though because this is something where it's like if somebody is wearing something every single day that's kind of nuts like how how
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And he points to me like he could see my earrings and then he saw that you can't. He's like, nevermind.
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That's true. You have complimented my earrings before, but also nothing else.
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I got so many compliments. If you're listening, so many people complimented those. I wore them at so many live shows. So thank you.
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I've always been different. And I've talked about this before, I think even last year on the podcast. But when I was little growing up, I would wake up and my mom would have the entire kitchen decorated. And there was just hearts everywhere. There was a nice breakfast. Everything was pink and red. I would dress up in pink and red.
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I keep picturing a diaper shaped earring me too thank you no the first time you said this story I was like I thought this story was going in an opposite way like I thought she had some weird fetish where she wanted to wear a diaper every single day and she was mad that he didn't notice yeah Huggies the brand honey you've been taking off my diaper for three years you don't know I wear them
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Yeah, it just it just tripped me up for a second. But we were back. We were back right away. It's totally fine.
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Call me materialistic. That's not superficial. That's just like... A card?
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Yeah. And that's what I'm like. There's different love languages, right? Like like gift giving like comes naturally to some people. But like if it is a birthday and it's like a special day for your partner and you know your partner like wants to have like feel this romance and you're like, I just can't do it for you. It's unnatural. It's unnatural. Then then you should just know. Yeah.
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And then in the middle of the day, she would come to my school and put like a huge bouquet of all these fun Valentine's Day things in my locker. That's so cute. And she'd always write your secret admirer. So people in my school would be like, who gave that to you? And I'd be like, I don't know. It says secret admirer. I wonder. Yeah. But so I don't know.
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It's making each other happy. And when you're in a romantic relationship like that, like you got to make those compromises or you got to find different partners because it's.
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Yeah. Yeah. Good matches. Mm hmm. I don't know who would be down to not even get a birthday card from their partner on their birthday. But I'm sure that there's people out there that are down for that.
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Yeah, but I'm like, do something nice for your partner on a birthday. A gesture. Yeah, whether it's like taking them out or a card or balloons or like a nice present or just like a birthday cake or whatever it is. Like, you got to do something for your partner.
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wonderful feeling around uh the holiday because so many of it was like my mom making it just fun a fun way to like celebrate colors and just get in the groove of things and and then also like i've had a lot of really fun um galentine's days so see that's different that's that's different and guys don't do that as much so and i really should yeah because like guys should go do that it would be called though
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I had so many thoughts along the way and now I'm just kind of speechless. Oops.
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But it makes you wonder if he's doing drugs because where would he come up with that? That's what I'm thinking. Where does that come from?
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Well, also, I think people sometimes just can't tell my voice apart from everyone else's voice.
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roundabout way of like getting the heat off of you yeah when you didn't even need to like because it is interesting because i did um i can't remember if it was like a podcast or article i listened to a long time ago where they were talking about how yes sometimes and a lot of times drunk words are sober thoughts but also once a person hits the point of blackout it's actually just like
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Can be a random like accumulation of words. It's really like it's nonsensical. And so that's why I'm like, I don't know, maybe maybe it was absolutely out of nowhere, just like a random dream that you don't have control of. But it does make you like it feels like projection and it feels like that would make sense. And it's also just, it's so confusing. Like, is this something he's done before?
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Galentine's, yeah. But so I like all the decorations. I think the decorations make it fun. I also do think that it's like more tailored to girls. So in terms of like, I think as my boyfriend feels more pressure...
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Is a pattern? I'm I'm, is this out of absolutely nowhere? Is this a one time, like a one time thing or?
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He called her a bad mom. That's like that's so messed up because it was a newborn. That was the first time. Right. First time. Oh, God, that's brutal.
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doing something nice for me on valentine's day rather than the pressure that i feel like to do something nice for him like you know i don't know so maybe maybe that's why you have more of a yeah i mean morgan did give me no flowers
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I do think that you make a good point, though, Morgan. It's like... Tolerance with alcohol is always, it varies so often because there are times where I can have a certain amount of drinks and I feel so sober. And then the other time I have the same amount of drinks and I feel so drunk. So it's really weird.
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It depends on so many different factors and that's why alcohol, you have to be more careful. And so in this situation, that's why I'm curious, is this a theme of him? And it's not, it doesn't make it okay what happened, but I'm just wondering if it's like, Did his tolerance change because he was with his baby all the time?
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He wasn't drinking and he thought he could still drink this amount, but he couldn't. And then he just, you know, just spiraled out of control. Like, that's why I'm wondering what we're... dealing with.
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Right. And then all of a sudden. That's what I was thinking, too. I'm like, I don't know if it was malicious right before the concert. I don't think it. I don't think someone that, like, blacked out could plan that. Just bad timing.
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Where were we before that? We were at a venue. Was that at the music venue? A restaurant in Santa Monica. Interesting. Yeah. Because I dated somebody who was roofied and he was, again, buying drinks for girls and like the craziest stuff. He like thought he thought his dog was stolen. Like he broke his own door down. It was like it was so bad. And then he like.
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thankfully um unthankfully and thankfully he ended up like getting arrested but um he was hurt so he was in the hospital and they did his blood work and saw that somebody had roofies in his blood so it was yeah and that's so unlike him he would never bang down a door yeah kicking in someone else's door because he thought his dog was getting yeah yeah yeah like it yeah but op like looking at the comments again like
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Yeah. Divorce. Divorce. Divorce. Divorce. Yeah. I would literally have lawyers confiscate all of his stuff and try to get all of those deleted because that is that's terrifying. It's so terrifying.
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That's so messed up. And then in that video, the ex may send that to probably all of the friends.
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Yeah. And like, oh, that just- It's so violating. That is so violating. It's so not okay. I just- This one's done. That's just so disturbing. He's, yeah, there's no coming back from that.
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I think you could definitely go after him for doing this. He needs to be in trouble for that. It's not okay.
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Yeah. No, he's disturbing. Like there's something got to go. Absolutely wrong.
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absolutely wrong i i totally agree that's why i'm like instead of like taking all of the devices and trying to like delete it all myself i would be like i'm gonna get a lawyer involved so like oh i don't know how that works but i hope there's justice because that is so messed up top comment on this one this is abuse and also illegal i could never trust my husband again if he did that to me this is grounds for divorce
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Well, for Alejandro's birthday, when we were in Aspen, I'm like, we're all sitting in the living room, like in a circle, just talking about random things. But like, we're getting like deep with each other. We're like sharing like personal things. And there's a camera that's just like right at us that's on like, and I'm like.
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Like I'm sure they're just trying to make sure there's no like damages because the camera was like big where it's not like a sneaky one. But like but I'm like it makes me feel uncomfortable knowing that they have this like footage of us like sharing like personal stories with each other.
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They do. I know when I watch TikTok sometimes because sometimes I see something kind of funny and I want to like take a picture of it. And I'm way too nervous to take a photo of it. I don't want anyone to see that I'm taking a photo of something that I found funny, like a sign or something. And other people I see on TikTok are just like in each other's face, recording each other.
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And I'm like, I don't know how you guys do that. Like I'm. They're brazen. I'm like, I'm too nervous to take picture of a funny sign that someone probably wants me to take a picture of. But I'm like, I don't want to.
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Absolutely not. I'm sorry. If that was a thing, that doesn't matter. That doesn't mean that you get to do what he did. That's not okay.
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I don't care if she literally talked about the intimacy that she had with her ex every single day. That would make her shitty, yes. But that does not mean that you can do something like that to a person. He could have left. He could have broken up with her. He could have got divorced. There's no excuse for this behavior. Zero.
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And you guys know I love to poke holes in things, ask so many questions, try to understand. We're curious, guys. Yeah, we're very curious. I just, even if I already am like, it's an automatic no, I like to ask questions anyway, just out of curiosity. But with this one, I'm like, no.
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Don't you hate when you watch a movie where they just like throw the phone in the water because they're pissed? And I'm like, no, keep the evidence.
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Yeah. I like looking at the DMs to see how his sisters are doing. Sure. Be honest, you were creeping.
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I don't find it to be wrong specifically when he literally said go into my Instagram. Like if you're going to say that, then you have to accept that they might see something on your Instagram. So I'm not like at all judging or anything. I was just, I'm just saying like, we all like to kind of like take a little peep. Yeah. If it's right in front of you. Yeah, sure. What is what is what's he up to?
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Who's he talking to? You know, like I don't imagine like somebody just being like, I'm going to look at the DMs of like his two sisters. I feel like it's probably just kind of like, oh, what are what are the DMs looking like? Not not because she like thought that he was doing anything, but just out of pure curiosity.
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I don't think I've looked at Brian's, but I did look at his. Oh, no, no, no. I did. I did look at his DMs one time when he gave me his phone.
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It's like, ma'am, he can't see you. It's just the craziest thing. It's like you're literally here for Morgan's show. And then you're going to say that to her fiance. That's pretty wild. Hey, people are shooting the shot, you know? She wants to be the new host.
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Still Morgan's show, but she doesn't know that. The show would go on. Whoa. Whoa. Oh, wait. I should also clarify, too. Brian has told me that I can look at his DMs and phone anytime I ever want, and I've just never taken him up on that because I didn't care to.
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But I had his phone, and we were in Hawaii, and I was in the back of a car, and there was these floaties, and they were stuffing me in the back.
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and he like asked me to hold his phone and so i was like cut off from them and i'm just bored and i just opened his phone and was like something to do yeah just just peeped there's nothing interesting little little peep little peep just like pokemon and stuff i know it's an issue i need to like take him to like a pokemon like pokemon go is okay it's just a lot he just like people move in it's just i know but he's just like addicted he needs to tone it down a little bit
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And it's just so sweet. Like I just said, my really good memories of Valentine's Day started with my mom when I was growing up. Mm hmm.
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Don't divorce over that. Forcing someone onto your kink, that's abusive. That's not okay in any circumstance. And the fact that he was like, oh, I felt like it was the only way that I could do it without you knowing. So he knew that she would not like that. She knew that it grossed her out. So it's like that didn't help. That didn't help his case. That just made it worse.
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And I'm like, is this like, What what is it that could drive someone to take their kink that far that they do something like that? That's just so awful. Do you want to drink your own piss? Why don't you drink your own piss? Why doesn't he just does he do it for himself? Why don't, like, what?
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And like the hair lady was just like, yeah. And it feels like she's like forcing her kink upon you guys. That's what it felt like.
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That doesn't even come natural. Like when... You have to, like, expel those moans. It's not like a, like, ah, I'm scared type of reaction. No, it's not a startle. Like, you gotta put thought into that. You think about it.
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I have a relative who will say, and it's really not a big deal, but I have a relative who will be like, oh my gosh, the food is so good. You'll literally moan when you eat it. And I'm like, the relative doesn't moan or anything. Oh, but some people do moan when they take a bite.
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as they're eating an ick and I don't think that the relative means it like in a weird way or anything but like even even that word I'm like maybe a different word maybe a different word moan moan the word moan is like inherently sexual yeah oh I was moaning over it
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And, and I'm like, maybe, maybe during like that time period, because relatives like a little older, maybe it was more normal, but like, even I'm just like, I'm like, I just, I feel like maybe we can use a different word.
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Were they from the South or what was that? They spelled it urine. Okay. You don't know what you're in for? U-R-I-N-E. Urine. I just love when you say mum. Mum. When you read how it looks.
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Imagine if she went her entire life, like she's literally like 105 years old and she's sipping her piss coffee every single morning.
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That's what they say, though. They say every time there's this breakthrough, amazing, awesome technology, there's always the bad that people will use to take advantage. Always. Yeah.
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The person just turns and looks at you slowly. You guys got to stop eating dairy. How do you know I'm talking about myself? I don't have a lot of dairy. That's the thing. I'm talking about other people and movies and myself. Just kidding. What should she do? I mean, I feel like I need more context because how long have they been dating? Is it new? Do we have any context around that?
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You know what I mean? I just think you guys are so hilarious because like you guys are just like two of the most open people. And so the fact that the fact that you guys like have this like fart thing is just interesting. It's so funny.
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i'm kidding if brian walked in the door yeah oh my god no brian though this is what i'm i'm like i'm asking about context because sometimes like i jokingly will be mad at brian for farting like this doesn't seem like a joke okay but it's like but i act mad but i'm like also joking does that make sense i'm like how could you do that and our place of rest is
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I'm like, go outside and think about what you did. But I'm being playful, so that's why I'm wondering if all the context behind this.
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I mean, this is... not to sound weird, but like farting is such a big part of a human's life. Like I just looked it up and the average human farts five to 15 times a day.
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So to be worried about that every single day that you're going to accidentally fart in front of your partner when you have a light, when you have kids with them, what happens when she, like if, if they want to have kids, like I was literally just talking to someone about going through labor.
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Beyond that one day, let's say they get past that. What about changing diapers?
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And I understand aversions. Like, you guys know, like, certain things like spit and stuff. Like that. Like, there's certain... bodily fluids that, like, I also, like, will just have, like, a gag reflex to. If it's... I think I might have told you guys this, but when I was taking a COVID test, like, you have to spit into a little vial. It got to be a lot.
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And I, like, when I looked at my own spit, my own spit, I started gagging. I literally gagged. And it's, like, it's stupid, but it's... Some people have aversions to things, but I do think that there is... You like you can't make somebody feel bad for something that's just natural, like a fart like that. It's that's it's not how a partnership is going to.
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I mean, apparently it does happen sometimes because you just said your relatives haven't farted for 25 years.
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I know. I was like, was he leaving to poop because he actually was just doing sketchy stuff instead? Lisa went through it. Yeah. OP does reply to that, but you say what you're going to say first. Oh, I was just going to say, I think that's a good comment. A really good comment. The only thing that I'm kind of confused about is the part where she says, don't contact him at all.
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He didn't say he wanted to break up, right? I don't know. Lisa might be interpreting that, okay, I'm done. That's like a breakup. Oh, I don't know why I didn't even fathom that. I'm not sure. Because that would make it even crazier.
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Yeah, absolutely not. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I would be so livid. And that's the thing. You guys have your little fart thing that you guys do, but you guys would never ask each other not to fart in front of each other ever.
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That's so interesting, though, because even with, like... I used to have so much gas. Even with, like, without dairy and health, like, you should be farting, like, a decent amount. He burps a lot, though. Huh. Maybe that has something to do with it.
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Yeah. So are we, but... but but yeah no um that's so funny i don't burp that often if i do it's like it's like undetectable or people think i hiccup they're like oh cute was a hiccup what yeah that's wild i mean think about how many times you've heard me burp and i wouldn't hold it back in front of you i'm just no you're more of a tutor Don't tell them that. They already know. No, they don't.
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She is a silent one. Oh my gosh. But deadly. No, no. They're like roses. Okay.
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would that be your evil laugh if you had one what did i do that was an evil laugh i'm kidding i'm kidding what i don't like i'm not sure how i did it but yes probably it was really good yeah I was supposed to go too.
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I don't think Delta ever got it in their possession. My friend, she's on a ski trip and like an airline just lost her luggage. And she like had all of her stuff for the ski trip in there. Yeah. Yeah.
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I'm sure it was Tide. A lot of people don't know about the tie trick.
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Just an unnecessary step. No, no, definitely not that. If you have to, maybe squeeze. So we could just stick with squeeze. Why didn't I think of that word? Wow. Okay, Justin, your turn.
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The funny thing is I'm pretty sure you like had this tangent literally the last time we recorded.
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I don't, I don't know. It feels like, it feels almost like, I don't know, like souvenirs. Yeah. That's what I'm what I'm trying. I'm trying to think what she's thinking. Is she thinking this is romantic and one day she's going to like make a scrapbook out of it? I know. I know. Right. So I'm like, but I'm like, I'm like, is that what she's thinking?
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Or does it like is it something she's keeping specifically for herself and it gives her some type of like satisfaction or closeness? Like, what is she thinking? Or is it just a tick? Is it literally just like kind of like someone with klepto who just takes something and it's not because they need that object. They just like the act of taking. It makes them feel in control.
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And so she's collecting these items because it just makes her feel in control. That's what I think.
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But combined with everything else... I watched this witch movie not too long ago. I think it was... I might be making this up and combining it with a different witch movie, but I think it was Teen Witch. And I think that she was told to grab a hair from him or something like that. And so that's why I'm like, is it something even farther fetched?
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i that would be a long shot but like did you listen to the episode with me and michaela where she talked about old witchcraft to get people to fall in love with you no people would put fish up their vaginas oh no so maybe maybe she's practicing yeah maybe she like read something that like made her think that this will make the love last forever so not not necessarily like witchcraft but like some type of things she came across on the internet that just i don't
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know it's so weird I don't have any answers I'm just like fucking around spitballing I don't know guys time to break out the mini camera
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But that's also like, what, you said they're six months in? I don't know. Oh.
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The day that you came, the outfit. Yeah. When the sun was shining around you. No, he did. Yeah. Yeah. That day. So I got it. I feel like I have this image. I wasn't there, but I feel like I was because of the way you painted the picture for me.
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I don't think that I would be... And the reason why I don't think I'd be able to move past it is because I've had an experience where it made me feel like I just didn't know the person and I thought I knew the person and it really scared me in a way that I don't really know how to explain.
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It was a different type of fear and it was something where I'm just like, I don't know how to move forward because I... It's like an indirect, I guess in this situation, indirect type of betrayal because – but it feels so wrong and it just feels sneaky and it feels like how do you really know this person if they're doing – collecting – Yeah. Yeah. Things like that about you.
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It's pathetic. It's really pathetic. And I'm like growing up, too. I'm like if I was I'm almost positive that my dad and stepmom would do something to on Valentine's Day for me. It's just usually like I was with my at my mom's more often. Yeah. But no, I think it's really normal for parents to do something sweet for their children on Valentine's Day. It's just.
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It's just, it would be really hard for me to move forward, but I wouldn't blame anyone if they wanted to move forward. If they wanted to figure it out, that makes complete sense. I think I would just have a hard time with it.
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that makes it even worse for me it's just weird unless they have a conversation and it like really makes sense and she has a really like an explanation and is actively like I will make this better I don't want you to feel this way then you know then I could probably consider it but it's just tough stuff like this is just tough well we do have an update
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Yeah, but I didn't know that they knew that too. That's the update. Yeah, it's Reddit. what yeah this is getting weird that's not an update it's not you can't do that to us that's really rude we need to just trash this story actually yeah oh just just throw it that's really sad no no and then we'll take it back and we'll put it in the box just like the girl did right out of the trash
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What's wrong? What's wrong? I tried so hard. It's good. I'm kidding. I'm just kidding. We got another update. How did you cry? Are those laughing tears? Yeah.
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just a day of love like it's a day of all different types of love any type of love like it doesn't have to be so and i and it makes me feel sad that it does for a lot of people has like associate like a lot of really negative feelings or frustration because to me i just think it should just always be a day of love and like not in any way no yeah love love for your your pet anyone just get your little pet a present yeah
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I didn't even think about like a gone girl situation. That's That's crazy. Terrifying. Because you're right, those are all... Wow.
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Okay. Oh, how did... Oh, it's because I don't watch these type of things. I know. But I'm like, how did I not even like...
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Would you just dug it up from five weeks later and you're like, oh.
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I don't know. I'm just the way that he is just like, oh, we talked about it. It's all good now.
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She's not throwing it away. Wait, she said she's going to throw them away? Yeah, she's not, though. She's going to hide it in the floorboard. Oh, I just collect more.
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This is so... Oh my gosh, Justin. This is not... I just don't understand how he's just like, oh, she wanted to feel close to me. Okay. Like, this is... Even if that is exactly the case, there's still something really off with this. You should look into this further.
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Like, I think a lot of people have different reasons for their kleptomania, but it's I think it's more of an impulse thing, like rather than like a hateful thing or spiteful thing or like trying to screw someone over. I think it's more of just like an impulse. Yeah.
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Goofy. Yeah. Goofy guy. Well, I think that's the moral of the story is that you should, if you want to show someone love on a day that is about love, it doesn't matter what type of love it is. Partner, grandma, pet, whoever, friends.
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And they lived happily ever after. OP didn't delete his account. His partner did.
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Oh my gosh. I actually have like a couple of- stories that people have wanted me to send to you. Well, let's go. Bring them over to Patreon. I'll let you read them even. I need to look through them. I honestly... I have been having so many people reach out lately, and it's been so fun, but then I just don't get to all of them.
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Yeah, and it makes me sad because I'm like, I want to interact with everyone, but I've been so busy. But I love hearing from people. It makes me so happy. So I'm like, I want to respond to everyone, but it's just...
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Love it. I was also thinking, I'm like, I want to have like one day, like one like random Sunday where I'm just like, I'm like, I'm here in the DMs. Like I'm here all day, baby. Come get me.
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Because people share so many fun things in there. Like, truly, I love hearing from everybody. It's amazing.
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I know. I literally, I love it. I just, like, feel so bad when I don't... Respond. Yeah, because I want to respond to everyone.
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Are you feeling the leave it? I feel... We didn't get a lot of love. There wasn't, this wasn't really... Very lovey.
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We remembered to do that for once. That was like a throwback. I'm like, whoa, I'm introducing myself?
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I would feel the same way. I would feel really bummed about it. I mean, if you're expressing to your partner that this is something that would make you feel really happy, is it the exact same? It's the exact same.
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Yeah. Well, it's also interesting, too, because me and Morgan were just having this conversation about not just in like romantic relationships, but in friendships like we all have different love languages. And so we can get really upset with even just our friend because we think I would do this for them. Why don't they do it for me? Oh, my God. We were just talking.
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Yeah, but they don't have the same love language, so they don't like process it the same way. So they may be doing something for you because that's their love language and you're not actually even doing it back for them.
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And so then there becomes like frustration between the friends because you guys have different love languages and ways of showing things, you know, the way that you care about people in your life. For sure. And so, yeah, it kind of reminds me of this. Is that is that just what this is? Is this partner just that's just something that never crosses his mind because it's not his love language?
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And then even if it is, though, I mean, like if that is her love language and it's extremely important to her and that's how she's going to feel seen and loved, she also deserves to have somebody in her life that makes her feel that way.
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So it's like there needs to be either like a compromise or they should find people that are more compatible that make like that she feels more loved and more seen by. Yeah.
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I always do this where I'm like, so then why does the wife think he did it?
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I was an easy target for him to make fun of to get laughs from his friends and he liked feeling funny and impressive in front of his friends and so he would find a way to make me the butt of the joke and it didn't feel good but I knew that he was just trying to be cool and so and I knew that it wasn't like he didn't love me he just hated me okay
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I we were at war, dude. I wonder how many other people think that way, because how big of an age gap are you guys again? Eight years. OK, so, yeah, he he was kind of at that age.
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It can be like a hit or miss. They're like the kids are old enough to kind of know what's going on. Yep. Yeah. So sorry about that, Morgan. It's OK.
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That's the thing. She didn't even make a joke on him. She was literally just standing up for herself. That's not embarrassing him.
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Oh, speaking of Beep Beep Ops, you know that new Kendrick Lamar song? Yeah. Bing bong, bing bong, bong bong.
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I obviously don't know exactly the right song, but I've watched a few TikToks. And I said that to my boyfriend. I'm like, do you know that new song? And I said it like that. And he looked at me and rolled his eyes and he's like, yeah, sure. He thought that that's just how I heard Kendrick Lamar. No, it's a bop. I'm like, no, it's an actual song. I played it for him.
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Right. Yeah. And I, okay, I said I wouldn't go as far as saying that he doesn't love her. We don't know that. Like, Big assumption. But I feel confident in assuming that he doesn't respect her. And what is a romantic relationship? What is any relationship if you don't have respect?
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I want to do my own Father Knows and be the host. You can have... Girl, take it. Take an episode or two or ten. No, I mean, like, I don't know if you remember me saying this, but I was like, I'm going to make my own podcast one day and have it be called Lauren Knows More Than Jerry. He would feel attacked. It would be to attack him.
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So that made my day. Oh, my gosh. That is... That is a day maker. I wasn't ready for this. See, you had this prepped. I did.
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Yeah, I would say so. Because if my partner did that to me, I would be really annoyed. Because, okay, I like that you're concerned about safety and health. That's a great quality. I'm really happy you have that. You're looking out for your partner. That's wonderful. But you need to have the conversation before you just take their stuff and destroy it.
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It's like, why was it illegal? I need to know. I have no idea. Listening back to that episode. I have no idea. I actually really like her songs. So I really, I can't believe I didn't listen to that episode.
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It's a bad trend. You guys, we discovered that our For You pages are like so different.
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There's a process. They heat it up. Oh. I don't know the process of milk. I also don't drink milk. I don't either.
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Well, I'm really happy about my new job. Yeah, so I really like it and I'm really excited about it. And it's been, oh my gosh, I've spent so much time working from home. taking meetings from home and being back out in person in front of people is just, it's really, really good for me. To get out, have coworkers again. Just talk to people in person. It just feels really good.
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Also, that motion I just did. Oh, I wasn't even thinking the hands. I'm thinking their mouth is on it. Oh, sucking it like a bottle?
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being violated oh my gosh yeah i know it's it's funny i i really don't uh drink milk anymore and it's not i've never really had an active thought about it like what what they say about you move to california and you start getting almond milk and like oat milk it's not a lie it's just kind of forced upon you it happens without even your consent oat milk latte this almond matcha that anyway
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There was like a TikTok shop trend where people bought that milker. Our friend Sarah used to do it all the time. I don't know if you knew that.
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I'm picturing it as like a bomb that she's like, or like a hot potato. She's like throwing it back and forth until she gets in the sink. And yeah, that's my vision.
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Maybe. I mean, it's like some people do have those type of thought processes and like kind of hypochondriac type of nisses. I don't know what I'm saying. So that could very well be it.
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I've had that same experience. I get that experience, but I feel like tofu, it tastes like nothing. Dude, it's just a piece of nothingness.
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And I've spent so much time like ever since the pandemic. Yeah, within my own home. So that's like my positive. I love that. Yeah. We can end there. That was really good. Okay. I'm just trying to think of like a weird thing that's happened because I feel like weird things have happened recently, but I'm just like blanking on them. Maybe one of the stories today will jog your memory. Yeah.
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That's what they usually do. I'm looking it up. I'm waiting. I'm so curious. No. What? Let me see. No. So buffalo blitz wrap. Crispy buffalo chicken. Oh, because they have it chicken. That's not chicken. That's chicken. How was I supposed to know? It looks like chicken to me. No, that's the vegetarian way. It's like a specific type of chicken. It's tofu that they call chicken? Yeah.
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They take out the middle part and just add a little dash and an N. Yeah, that's...
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I haven't checked Instagram really today, so that's probably why. Last night, it was like midnight, and I'm like, why didn't she repost it?
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,,,,,,, ,,,,,,, So that's what I was kind of like, wait, who's Yob? Is it Jesus?
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Well, you've mentioned this so many times with champagne, so it definitely is something that I'm always thinking about having my hand over it. Yeah.
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Oh, my gosh. Okay. Well, I should have a disclosure, you guys. I've had really bad sleep the past two nights. I haven't slept. And so I've been having a hard time forming my sentences. And so if you notice that, that's why. When I get a lack of sleep, I have a hard time sometimes getting what's in my brain out of my mouth.
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Yeah, well, there's a thing called editing, luckily. Yeah, but you're so fine. Okay.
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Oh, four scores and seven years ago. Four scores. What were we saying before? I think you were just saying that it's been four years.
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I don't know why, too, because I love them. So I don't know why... It's such a spa, like getting your scalp scrubbed. So nice. Oh, it's amazing. I just, I cry every time I get my hair cut ever since I was like a kid. Really? Well, not, not actual tears now. Well, one time, but I just get really stressed out about it. Oh my gosh.
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Ooh, okay. What were you going to say, though? I was just going to say, like, I just find it really frustrating when people do try to see the worst in...
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It's like, I don't know. I just, well, let's go with like donating. So we'll have like some, a billionaire pop star donate money to some cause and people will be like, oh, that's a drop in the bucket to you, even though it's millions of dollars. And then they say all these negative things and then they'll say something like, oh, they're only donating just because it makes them feel good.
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It's a selfish motive. You know, stuff like that. And would you rather they don't donate millions of dollars at all? Yeah. And so that and that's the thing that's frustrating to me when people like to just try to pick people apart in the worst way. It's like, oh, OK, so what if they have more money than a couple million and they're donating a couple million? What are you donating?
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What are you doing? Is it is it more than a drop in the bucket for you? Like, does it make you feel good when you donate? Like, why? Why do you have to pick people apart? And so I just I think in this situation, yes, you could you could wonder, is this guy doing it for the wrong reasons? But if he's giving you no other reason to think that he's sketchy, then why are you jumping to that conclusion?
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full circle it's I mean it's insane because I feel like I remember that like it was yesterday I can't believe it's been four years and it's just so funny because I remember so well thinking that I'm talking into these cameras I'm talking to this microphone and thinking like it's just I'm talking to like maybe two of our other friends who are gonna listen I'm like I'm Because I just didn't know.
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Sorry, I just started watching How I Met Your Mother again. I'm literally rewatching it.
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We didn't have an audience. So we didn't know where it would go at that moment. And so I assumed that it would at least take a few episodes until it could start growing. But you guys jumped on immediately. So fast. And we were just... I couldn't believe that we were talking to so many of you guys from that first episode.
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I need a second, though. I know. Right. I'm like, if a guy even lied about kissing me, I would. I think that's happened, actually, like in college. You've talked about it before. It's ringing a bell. Yeah, it's ringing a bell. But I don't know. I clearly like shut that out. But I would. I would. Oh, no. You do not lie about kissing.
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That's what I don't know. Exactly. And that's why I'm like, I have zero tolerance. Like a guy did that to one of my friends in high school. He she didn't touch him. Nothing wasn't even friends with him. And he told everyone that he took her flower, I think, or like took her virginity, whatever he said. And we, oh my God, I was so angry. Like, I don't know what is wrong with somebody to feel angry.
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that it's a good idea to lie about being intimate with somebody else.
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And it's crazy to see how far... It's come in like this community that you built. It's so amazing and special. So yay, Morgan. Clap, clap, clap.
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I just like I can't with people who lie like that, create stories, create false narratives like pathological liars. It's scary. Terrify me. Terrify me. I don't even like when somebody tells a story about me in a different light. Like, their version. You know what I mean? It always has to be Lauren's version. Or, like, just an objective, like, version. It's just... Keep my name out of your mouth.
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They could be like, oh, and then Lauren said, I don't like that. And when really I just said, hey, I really don't like that. It's how everyone interprets stuff.
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He gets off on it in some way. Yeah. Well, and like the fact that he's been having like a new girl around each month and like continued that into college, too. And then is having fantasies about all the friend group like that to me feels like there's like some like like a sex addict thing.
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That's true. He's bringing a new girl around each time, but it's just a friend or it's just a lie.
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I was picturing him like bringing a friend or like a girl to the friend group. But yeah, it could just you're right. Could just be a lie. which that could just be a combination of things.
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Five months, six months. Yeah, it's literally like the exact same time, basically.
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Well, it's so smart too because it's like... It's so frustrating for both parent and child, I imagine, to not be able to communicate with each other. So the faster that you can communicate with each other, that's amazing. I remember when I was little, I was yelling to my dad and I was like, I want sips. And he's like, you want chips? You want sips of something? Oh, my God.
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He couldn't figure out what I was saying. I don't even know what I was saying.
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I think I told you guys this on the podcast before, but like when I was little, I'd be like, look at that cow. And I was pointing to a car and my siblings would mess with me and they'd be like, what cow? There's no cow anywhere here. And I'd be like, no, it's a cow. The wet cow. Because I didn't, I couldn't say my R's when I was little. Yeah. At all. It's okay, Lauren. That was my name. It's okay.
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Aw. Be nice to kids with speech impediments, okay? Impediments? You said that so... I loved it. Crispy. Yes, crispy.
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I want to know what she gave him because I might want some. Just kidding. But... We can't sleep. No. No. But, like, I'm actually... Well, okay. Is it, like, NyQuil? Is it something a little bit more... Klonopin, Xanax.
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Like, that's what I'm wondering. I'm like, was she trying to be playful? Like, she put some NyQuil in so that he would fall asleep and stop arguing with her and she was like, oh, it was funny. It's a little NyQuil. But the way he reads it makes it sound really psycho. Like it was like she went and like bought some drugs from like a drug dealer and was like, I'm going to.
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like and the way that she's like i watched your eyes get red and i just watched you that's creepy i mean wait wait let me rewind first of all it's never okay to put anything in anyone's drink ever okay so i just want to make that very clear this is this is so bad no it's so messed up i i'm just trying to understand the level of messed up it is okay so i just want to make sure everyone knows that let's make that very clear
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I'm going to put it in his tea. Is it like I'm drinking NyQuil, I'm going to put some in his too so that we just go to bed and like and stop fighting? Or was it like or it's like you she's actually you should change your address, change your phone number, like get plastic surgery, like you look like a different person kind of thing.
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She started with like a threat. Oh, this is scary. This is a woman that, like, she could be a killer. I mean, what I was thinking as I'm hearing this story is Gone Girl. Oh, my God.
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The mask is slipping. Well. And now she feels like she has him locked in. They're engaged. So now she can start slowly. So now she starts to slowly introduce this side of her to him.
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Yeah. And well, I mean, also sometimes when people are so close, they don't see certain things. It's like you got to I've said this before, but I had a teacher who talked about the balcony and dance floor. I don't know if you call it theory or situation theory.
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Where it's like you have to be on the dance floor, live your life, but you also have to take a break and go up onto the balcony to look over the dance floor and understand the situation and what's going on. And so I think sometimes when people are just in the dance floor, they are not seen from a bigger picture what's going on.
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Oh, I remember my weird. Okay. So yesterday I was driving to work and I was out and about all day and didn't really have my phone on me. And then I realized when I was looking at my Apple Watch that my boyfriend texted me and said, you took the keys to your car because I ended up taking his car. So I accidentally had my keys and then his car. So he was kind of like stuck at home.
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And you don't only want to stay in the balcony because you want to be present and in the moment. So it's kind of this like balance of.
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Why are you complaining, bro? Shut up. Like, no, I'm sorry. I don't mean to dumb you.
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He works from home, so it's fine. But anyway. He's kind of annoyed, right? Which is fair. He's like, can you let me know if the keys are here? Because I was trying to go to a workout class.
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I don't know if it's, it's like, I mean, you're losing a part of yourself in a way. It's just, it's like a change.
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And it was already booked. Yeah. Oh, you don't want that cancellation penalty. Oh. But I'm waiting in line in the bathroom. And I don't have my phone. I have my watch. And so I talk into my watch trying to do a voice text. And it was loud in the restaurant. So I am trying to make sure it's clear. So I go... Yes, I took my keys and I have been in back to back meetings all day.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. ,,,,,,, ,,,,,,, how long it's been since son and partner passed.
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You knew this, but sorry, did not mean to take keys. And I send it and then all of a sudden it goes and I look at it and it's a voice memo. It is not voice text. It is a voice memo. Oh, no. Your little robot voice. And I'm like, I have to go back to this meeting and I'm trying not to laugh at how ridiculous that must have sounded.
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And so I'm sitting there just like holding in a laugh and then I get a text from him. It pops up and he goes, he goes, you didn't need to give me that attitude. Oh, man. The fact that he didn't even like, that he just thought that was me giving him attitude. Yeah. Oh, my God. Anyway, I don't know if that was that funny, but that was my weird. Sorry, I just had to share. I like it.
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I didn't even think about the fact of, like, working together, too. I was just thinking about the friendship.
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Because you liked each other that much? Yeah, because you're both consenting adults. And that's the thing, too, is that that's why I'm like, OK, I'm viewing it more less of like I dated my boss's son behind her back. And I'm viewing it more of like my best friend, because like if I was dating your brother, Taylor. And I was just like, by the way, Morgan, I've been dating him for a year.
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It's literally like scraggles. How did it get so long? Because I am really bad about getting haircuts. And so I pretty much get them cut once it's really scraggly at the end. Damn, girl. The guy that I get my haircut from, he always thinks I go somewhere else in between him. And I'm like, no. This is literally just how few and far between I get haircuts. Wow. I know.
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you didn't let on at all you did but like it fucked up lauren but yeah you did it right you did a good job right you did a good job but but you would still be like wait but you're like my best friend like why didn't you tell me yeah for a whole year how did you keep such a big thing from me so that's more where i was thinking about it was at from a best friend angle than a boss angle if that makes sense
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Because I think that it's just hurtful to think that someone that you're so close with has been keeping something from you for that long.
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Right. Oh, gosh. Yeah, I... Well, because I wasn't thinking about... the other fact where it's like, not only is her best friend lying, but her son is lying. She has her two most important people in her life that felt like they couldn't be honest with her. And, and that they didn't think that she'd be supportive and that she has to deal with that feeling.
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And knowing that her son left this world without her, telling her about a relationship he was really excited about. And so there's just all these feelings I'm sure that she's going through. That's just so, oh, so tough. And I mean, this is a good, I'm glad that it, it resulted in this way, but I just, it is very emotional. Like, oh, it's sad.
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Exactly. And I have been thinking about that so much because I have lived my life for so long kind of thinking more in that, oh, I want to appease my boss. Like, oh, I wouldn't I wouldn't do that because I don't want my boss to be upset with me or boss, sorry, or best friend, that type of thing. And then it's like recently I've started realizing it's like we have one life. it's not that long.
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Sometimes it's really short. And if you feel like you're in love with boss's son, best friend's son, then it's like you should let yourself feel those feelings and live that life and stop trying to worry about what everyone else is thinking. And of course, you want to be mindful of your best friends and the people around you and the people you love.
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But when you're in love in a romantic relationship and you feel it and it's real, I just think that I've just shifted in my mindset about it right now about stop worrying so much about everything else. And just if it feels real, if it feels right, if there's respect, if there's deep love, then go for it.
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You don't know. I don't want to live in a cave, Lauren. I'm scared of the dark. Well, you might not be if you... Oh, that sounds like a great Disney movie in the making. A bat who's afraid of the dark.
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Let's be real. I'm going there for my birthday again this year. I was just thinking about the fact that your birthday is coming up. I know. I just want to do something. I love the Disney day. I feel like your birthday was like literally five seconds ago.
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Oh, I'm so glad that the mom reacted so positively. No, well, no, that's not what I was going to say. I didn't even ask the question if he knew that. Yeah, that the baby is there. And I don't know. I don't know if that's a weird thing to say, but I'm happy that he knew that. Mm hmm.
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No, I haven't seen all of them. But it's okay. It's okay. I normally don't want any giveaways, but when it's shows like this where I kind of just tune in for the good vibes and like the funny little one-liners, then I'm not worried about you spoiling anything. So it's okay.
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Oh my gosh, for the people who are only listening, I'm not fully just laughing at her. I do have tears in my eyes, too. I'm laughing, crying with her. It's a really beautiful moment, okay?
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i'm like what the fuck happened man well okay well well yeah take it away um oh my gosh i have so much love for you guys right now by the way i just feel like you guys have been like
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phenomenal and amazing and such a good support system lately I just want to tell you how I can't even express how much I appreciate you guys and and just to like kind of go back from the first thing that we said this has been four years like we are it's literally like the four-year anniversary and
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And I just I can't even explain how amazing it is that you guys are here with us and how proud I am of you, Morgan. Like, it's so cool to watch your friend talk about this vision that she has and then make it come true. Make it bigger than I could have ever imagined. Like, I'm just so proud of you. And are you trying to fuck me?
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Well, because you... Oh, you go ahead. Oh, I was just gonna say, I also am kind of a little nervous about how I'm like perceived on the internet. It's scary to be perceived. Yeah. So I think when you brought this idea up to me, it was definitely intimidating. But I'm glad every time I come here, you know, I'm really glad that I come here because it feels really good to be here with you guys.
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Like I think about things and talk about things that I wouldn't. And it just...
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No, she's not being the asshole. I think that was a really great response. And if he's willing to say stuff like that to her in front of a group of people, then he should be able to expect to take it right back.
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Like you could dish it. Yeah. But when you get a little chirp back, you can't take it. Right. Exactly. And that's annoying. And I think that in that moment, He should have said, I'm sorry. I was just I was just joking. I didn't mean to offend. Like, I, you know, love you. Like, we can talk about this later. Yeah. And then go about the night.
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And then when he gets home, he says, hey, like, I really thought you would laugh. I had no idea. Like, was that too far? Like, talk to me about your feelings. I'm so sorry. Yeah. But instead, he's like, you embarrassed me. And that's annoying.
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And that's why if they had that relationship, because sometimes people have relationships where they do joke like that with each other. And if that was the relationship, then that would have been known in that moment. But clearly he knew that was not the relationship dynamic between them. And it makes it seem like it's something that he and his friends joke about behind her back.
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And so he was trying to make appease them instead of looking out for her. And that's 100% what it was.
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Like, I don't I mean, I that I wouldn't make like jump. You wouldn't go that far. Yeah, I wouldn't go that far because I mean, what it reminds me of, honestly, is when I was little and my sibling would do that to me. Like, I know that he still loved me, loves me, but.
What's the Reality?
Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And I think yours is avoidance. And his is being easily influenced. Correct.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
So throughout the last year, we, I mean, again, you'll see it. We talk about it a million times. Like Minneapolis is so small. We were joking yesterday at the reunion that how many times was it mentioned? Like I ran into you at a bar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It seems like there's one bar in Minneapolis. There's probably three. Okay.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
I mean, I think the noise destroyed it. I also think his like inability to work through that in a relationship destroyed it. Like I think, I mean, I remember thinking at the time too, every other couple that we were with was dealing with shit. As you see, there was noise from other sisters or from TikTok or from family. A lot of sisters this season.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And everyone else, like it honestly seemed like some of the couples got stronger for it. The way that they communicated through it, the way they kind of had each other's backs. Um, like you see Sarah too, talking about how she's like, I'm not going to dismiss her, but I do like, I'm engaged to you. I want to believe you. And I trust that.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And I remember thinking like, how come every other couple is going through this conflict with this noise and is coming out stronger because of it. And Dave and I weren't. Do you feel like he tried to kind of like villainize you for your past? Yeah. I think he wanted it to be my fault or this guy's fault or his or my dad's fault. It was everybody else's fault.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Yeah. So that was actually, it was over two times that he had met my dad. So he met, we met my parents for drinks the first night and my dad just had a lot of questions. Like I remember he came in and he had like a napkin of like 15 handwritten questions for this person. Like I cried when he pulled it out and saw it. And it was like, I mean the basic stuff of like, How do you feel about Lauren?
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Like, how do you feel about marriage? Are you ready for this? All these things. And he also knew that Dave didn't come home the night before because I went to go see my parents. So he was like, what happened last night? And honestly, it was a really good conversation. I remember like Dave answered the questions really well. He was very engaged in it.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
He was trying to under, like they were, it was a really good conversation between everyone. And then I think, and then so we go back and we made it, we meet up for coffee the next morning. And I think my dad had sat there and just like thought about it and was just like, oh my gosh, you're going to get married in two weeks. And he didn't come home the night before.
What's the Reality?
Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And you guys are still tackling stuff that maybe you should not be tackling at this stage of a relationship. And so he was just much more direct with Dave and was like, if this isn't 100%, don't get married. Like this is the biggest decision you'll ever make. And I remember feeling an energy shift with Dave. Like, he kind of, like, sat back and, like, crossed his arms, too.
What's the Reality?
Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
So I would say like we've ran into each other throughout the last year, but we've never really like had a conversation about anything. So when I ran into him a week ago, he was, I could tell he was like excited to talk to me about it because I don't think that he's seen it this way in the last year. And I think he was excited to be like, look at this revelation that I've come to.
What's the Reality?
Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Yeah. Yeah. Like, he, like, was kind of physically pulling himself away. And I could see that shift. But I think my dad was just worried for me. He just wanted me to make the right choice.
What's the Reality?
Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
I think so.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Yes. I think he felt attacked and it was, that was like frustrating to watch back because I'm like, how do you think I felt for the last like two weeks? And so I don't think my dad said anything groundbreaking to him. I think he just addressed what was happening in a way that,
What's the Reality?
Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Wasn't very kind not that's I don't want to say that wasn't very like soft the way that I was kind of like talking to Dave about I think my dad was saying exactly what I was saying, but in a tone that was a little bit more like What the fuck are you doing?
What's the Reality?
Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And I knew like Molly and I are friends and we've talked a lot throughout the last year. And I knew based on conversations we've had that she supported me, but I had no idea that she rode that hard for me. And I was watching it being like, this is, I believe what the world is probably saying at their TVs right now. 100%. And she knew none of that. Like Dave and I broke up 24 hours before.
What's the Reality?
Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
She went into that day thinking Dave and I were still engaged. And so when she sat down, she was like, I don't know if I want to tell you this. And like, we had this conversation about how we broke up and the way she was able to take that and like internalize it and then communicate that to Dave in such a clear way. I just, I'm like amazed by her. She did such a good job.
What's the Reality?
Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And I felt very supported by her.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
The Ski Hill? It really looks... It's very Minnesotan. I will say, like, I feel like people ask me all the time. Like, we did not drink that much on set or just, like, in general. But, like, for some reason that night, I think they were like, let's... Let's let it flow. Um, I was definitely not sober, but I was more sober than him and I could pick up on that.
What's the Reality?
Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Um, I went into that day 24 hours after we broke up being like, I don't need clarity from him. I don't need closure from him. Like I've been hearing the same fucking things for two weeks and I don't need to hear it again tonight. Like I just didn't feel the need to even engage in a conversation.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Um, so when he came up and we talked, it was interesting to see like this full 180 of the tiniest bit of accountability. Um, and it was, it was like a reminder of how easily influenced he is by his surroundings because it's his friends in his ear. And now here it's Molly in his ear and he has like pivoted since then. And so he's like telling me some of these things. And I remember thinking like,
What's the Reality?
Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And so we were sitting talking or we were like standing talking when we ran into each other a week ago and he was like, I just see it so differently now. Like this guy ruined our relationship. Yeah. And my gut reaction is like, he didn't ruin the relationship. I didn't ruin the relationship. You ruined it. You ruined the relationship. Let's be clear. This is on you.
What's the Reality?
Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Okay, I've waited a couple weeks for you to take the tiniest bit of accountability or acknowledgement that maybe you could have done things differently. And you see me say, I'd love to believe this, but I remember thinking like, I just don't, I don't buy that this is where your head's at. He didn't buy it. Exactly.
What's the Reality?
Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Well, and I also saw through it. Like I remember thinking like, we'll see if this lines up. And then he obviously never reached out. So it was very obvious that that was not. So he didn't. So after that talk, what happened?
What's the Reality?
Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
No, he had reached out here and there, but it was not with the intention of like an emotional connection. Yeah.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Okay. My heart is pounding right now.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
I don't fully disagree with the feedback. Obviously, it's fun to watch my people. And I've, again, become so close with Taylor and Daniel and seeing their relationship throughout the last year. I was so excited to watch them, watch it play out. It's like that part is really fun for me and I'm enjoying that piece of it. The pods were kind of a tough one.
What's the Reality?
Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Watch again, but that's like, was it because I knew the outcome that I'm like skipping through some stuff that I'm like, I don't know if I need to see all of this. I think it's very Minnesotan. Like I do think that this is. What does that mean? Are there black people in Minnesota? There are not a lot of them. I'm sorry, y'all. That part's tough, yeah.
What's the Reality?
Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
I think it's just very, like, Midwest nice in a lot of ways. There's not a lot of direct communication. I mean, you see us, how many times did we say at the reunion the word miscommunication? But it's, I think, just indirect. No one's really saying how they're feeling. Yeah, why? I think it's such a Midwest nice thing.
What's the Reality?
Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Like, that's just how we're raised to not ruffle feathers and to not— If I hear ruffle feathers one more fucking time—
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And so as much as it, again, was like helpful, I think, for him to have clarity, I don't know how much he sees his role in that from a year ago still.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Right. Yeah.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
That's a really good question.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Yeah. Very good question. I do. I actually would be curious. I honestly don't know that a good answer to that, but it would be interesting to see what it would look like to date in the Midwest and date somewhere else. I've only ever lived in. Come to Charlotte or go to Boston or New York or something. Try something else out. Yeah. Come to the East Coast. I would be very curious.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
I mean, I feel like it's a very Minnesotan thing to, to see you scroll on hinge and you see like people with their fish pictures, people at their cabin and people it's, it's very similar. Yeah. Um, yeah, but I don't even know what it would look like elsewhere. So I don't even have anything to compare it to.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
It has to. It quite literally has to. Yeah. I need to make some different dating decisions moving forward. Maybe get out of that bubble. Yeah. Yeah. Where everyone knows each other. Yeah. That's scary. It is scary.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And I even, okay, I even mentioned this on my promo video that I'm like, I need them to roll the tapes on this because they were like, what's the hardest part about dating in Minneapolis? And I was like, in the world, they said that there's seven degrees of separation and in Minneapolis, there's one. Like you can find, a connection to every single person that lives in that area.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
That's not healthy. It's not. It's not fun.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Right. Right.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Yeah. Like there's almost this expectation that like men can sleep around and not get emotionally attached and it doesn't affect their future relationships. But like here I am telling him I had this physical connection, but like not an emotional connection and it doesn't matter in terms of this relationship. And that was like mind blowing. He couldn't wrap his mind around that.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And I also, I mean, again, you see him in Honduras be very vocal about sex and like ask questions. And I think we were having those conversations. It's not like that wasn't happening between us either. Like we were very much talking about this. And so I just didn't, again, it just didn't add up that this, again, this was the thing. This was our downfall.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
So did your ex apply to be on Love is Blind? Can I first clarify, he is not an ex. He's not an ex-boyfriend. Your fake ex. Your fake ex applied. I found out about this like three days ago that he full-on applied to be on the show. And I don't know if he did that before or after because he knew that I was talking to casting from like the minute we started talking.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And I don't know if he applied before or after I gave him that information. I just found out about this. He never fucking told me that. Why would he? It would have like totally contradicted his whole narrative that he's spinning right now. Yeah.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
That was totally a fear of mine going into it. I remember talking to casting and being like, I've been single in Minneapolis for five years. You're telling me you're going to find 16 men that I've never talked to or dated or interacted with before. And so I was actually impressed that they found that, but they had to do a lot of digging, I'm sure.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Oh, my God.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Please do. Because what? I watched that back, and my jaw was on the floor. I was like, they did me so dirty with that edit. Okay. So between the pods and the getaways, we had like a few days to regroup, get our shit together, go to random appointments. And so obviously I'm like, I need to get a bikini wax before this. And then they were like, anything else you want to do?
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And I'm like, yeah, if I could go to a spin class, that would be amazing. So they signed me up for both of those things. So I'm in the middle of my wax and my lady is like, okay, no sex for 24 hours, no working out for 24 hours. Kind of give me the lay of the land. Yeah. And so I'm like, shit, I have to cancel that spin class. So I was really bummed about that.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
I hadn't done like a full workout in two weeks and I was craving it. And so we get to the getaways and like Dave and I are sitting there talking about what we've been doing the last couple of days. And I'm like, I got this bikini wax and then I really wanted to go to this spin class, but I'm bummed that I had, all right, how did I say it? I said, I couldn't have sex or workout for 24 hours.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Yeah. I mean, honestly, at the time I was making these like decisions based on the information that I had in front of me and like what I was hearing from Dave. I remember there were a couple of days where, so like to back up to, I remember there's a scene where Molly tells me that her number one is Dave and she's like only here for Dave. That was on like day like four.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And I'm bummed because I really wanted to go to this spin class. And they edited it to make it look like I was bummed that we couldn't have sex. And number one, the timing of that would have been off because it would have been after 24 hours. But I'm like, I don't talk like that. That's not a good look. Yes. And then like the way they show him responding, like it looks like he's like, great.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Don't worry about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was so not.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Is there anything else you want to clear up? No.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
honestly no that was well I guess we'll see what else comes out but for now yeah it's good okay so you guys just filmed the reunion give me your hot take your thoughts um yeah for I mean I think you'll see more Minnesota nice or we saw some more Minnesota nice I don't see no more Minnesota nice yeah I want the Minnesota mean what is go ahead girl yeah yeah go ahead go ahead
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
I mean, I honestly, based on the conversation that Dave and I had had like a week ago, I had a feeling he was going to come in and... attempt to take some like accountability.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
I feel like I knew he wasn't going to double down and be like, no, you did have a boyfriend because honestly that wouldn't have looked, I feel like he would have been even more destroyed if that would have been his approach. So I knew that that would happen, but I still had things that I wanted to share.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And I think for the most part, I shared some reflections that I had had throughout the last year. I was kind of surprised at how much I don't know. There was, there was a moment where I'm sitting there being like, did they give Dave an engagement ring? And is he about to get up and get on one knee?
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Because the way they were like really prompting him to talk about me and how he feels about me, I was like, that ship has sailed 11 months ago. Oh gosh. So yeah. Do you think he wants you back? I honestly don't think so. I think he's like, I do think that he's been reflective of things and wants to take accountability, but I don't think that that translates to wanting me back.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
I don't think, like, I think he's taking accountability for the fact that he didn't believe me and wasn't on my team, but I don't think he's taking accountability for the fact that like let's say in another world, this was true. Let's say 48 hours before I went on this experiment, I was like hooking up with this guy. I still don't think that that is an engagement ending situation. I agree.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
So I think he took accountability for the fact that like, that was too much noise for him, but not for the fact that he, if he was emotionally ready to be married and really wanted to be with me, we would have been together. Do you feel like you said everything you need to say on that couch?
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
I mean, for the most part, I feel like it's one of those things that like, there was a moment that I'm like, am I just beating the dead horse? Like I'm kind of saying the same things over again. And Watching it back, I definitely am like, okay, was he not ready for marriage or did he not want to be with me? And yesterday I was like, I don't care enough to know which one it is.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Like, I don't even want clarity in that sense. So, yeah, I feel like I said everything I, like, needed to. Like, I don't need anything else from him in that way. You've moved on. Yeah. Yeah. Is he dating to me now?
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
I remember being like, I have four other dates today. So as much as I liked Dave at the time, I didn't really put too much emphasis on that or like knowing that. And then as the days went on and other people started to kind of fizzle out and like Dave became stronger for me, it set in a little bit more. And so it kind of became a little bit more real.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
You can say hi elsewhere in Minneapolis.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
I honestly, going into it, like I was saying before, I really only had short-term relationships, and I've been single for a while, like pretty on and off consistently single. And there were definitely moments throughout the last few years where I was like, okay, am I too set in my ways at this point?
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Am I at this point that I've just become very independent in my own life, that I don't have space for someone else? And as hard as it was to watch how Dave and I
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
ended things I really was so invested in him and I like fought for him so hard and I it was very in a lot of ways like we kind of talk about this it was easy to blend our lives when we were in Honduras and kind of imagine what that would look like and I was so genuinely excited about the possibility of that
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
So it does give me a little bit of hope to be like, okay, this will make sense when it is the right person and it won't be hard. And it won't be like, like I will be able to get there with someone else and I don't need to be afraid of that piece of things.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Just, it gets better, girl. Thank you. It gets better. I needed to hear that. It really, truly does.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Yeah, life is good. It's been a crazy year to look back because obviously like all of this happened a year ago and then you kind of have to go back and live your normal life. Yeah, well like attempt to live a normal life and then experience it all over again. And I was definitely anxious coming into this thinking about like how it would feel watching it all back.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
We are here.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Like, okay, I know Molly really likes this person. I'm really starting to develop strong feelings for him. And I was really torn on if I wanted to say anything to her and if I wanted to like approach it with her. But I remember thinking like that conversation would really stress me out. And I'm already really stressed. Yeah.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
I love that.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And at the time I was hearing all of these different things and I was like, I'm in a relationship with Dave. There was a part of me that felt like I owed him the conversation before I owed it to Molly. Not like Molly, I would have ignored her, but I just felt like I wanted to go to him first. Um,
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Looking back, I do feel like it makes me look like I was trying to sneak behind Molly and throw her under the bus to Dave. But I just wanted clarity for me. What she deserved. Yeah. And watching the scene back where I'm telling Dave how I feel. It was hard to watch because it makes it seem like I'm comparing myself to Molly.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Was it hard to keep a secret? Like what, what was that like for the last year? Yeah.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Yeah. Minute one. Didn't you propose in like seven seconds? Yes, he did. Yeah.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Yeah. We need your secret prayer.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Right. Couldn't tell you.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And I was only like, I have so much shit going on and like things to think about. I don't even know what he and Molly's connection looked like. I was thinking about me and Dave and I was like, don't fuck this up for us. Not because of anything that they had. So I guess the only thing is I would have... I don't know.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Is love blind? Is it blind? I would have picked him up, spun him around.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Maybe I would have talked to Molly, but I don't know how that like conversation would have led to anything too different. It's so hard to look back and know.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Like doing the worm in the middle of the bar.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Not that insane. I'll be 33 in a couple weeks.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Totally. And like looking back, I feel like it's not super clear that I was not, I was well aware of the situation that we signed up for. I knew that we were dating multiple people. My issue wasn't with that. My issue was Dave telling Molly, you're my number one person here, which I'm like, okay, if there's two of us here, then why do I need to be here anymore? That was my only concern.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Keep praying with me.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Actually, you're right, I'm ugly. It honestly... Okay, I totally see where you're coming from. And watching it as a viewer, I would have thought the same thing. It felt so much more lighthearted in the moment. And you even see... There's a moment, if you watch it back... He laughs immediately, but it's not on like the main laugh track. It's on like the background laugh track.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And for the most part, it feels like a similar roller coaster than it felt at the time. But I also feel so much more emotionally removed from it than I did when I was going through it, obviously. So that helps to have like a different lens. Yeah. So how's your life changed since the show came out? I mean, I think the biggest thing is the friendships that I've made from it.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
turned into a big deal. The biggest.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Like they kind of purposely like didn't include his like follow up laugh. Again, there's like jokes that I'm seeing that I'm like, oh my God, people are going to hate that. But it felt so much more lighthearted in the moment. And I remember like, I don't know, I like banter. I needed someone to shoot the shit with.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Look at his face.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
I don't know. I always talk nice about you. Yeah, you do.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
So it really at the time did not feel like an immediate red flag the way that I think it's being seen as now.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
a lot of red flags a lot of red flags do you feel like you ignored them because you wanted to marry him you really loved him like do you feel do you see the red flags now I mean I think the biggest red flag that I see looking back now is just the shift when we got back to Minneapolis and the way he was like team us and then immediately team anyone but us and like that became so obvious and I wish I'd
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
You have that right now?
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Yeah. Oh, my God. You guys are committed.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
We're doing it. I love that.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
You love me.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
addressed that sooner than I did. Addressed what? Him not believing me and not picking me and not like being on my team. Yeah.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Yeah. And I know, I have, like, this is where I have such a soft spot for family. Yeah. And I think, like, we're forgetting he lost his mom at, like, a very impressionable age. I think his sister really stepped into that role. And I think... he really wanted to find some out. So that was a good one. Okay. Cause girl.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Well, now no. Yeah. Like definitely not. I would never be able to marry into a family.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And it was frustrating because like even he himself says, I'm not worried about you getting along with her or like her liking you. Like he says that. Oh, I'm very worried. Yeah. So it's like, then what, then, then I think I knew if we were to ever meet. Yeah. Like, I don't think that I, I've never been in like toxic relationships before in terms of romantic partners or friendships or family.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Like that's just never, but I've always been able to communicate through something. Yeah. And so that's why this was so frustrating too, because I was like, you're not even giving me a chance to communicate with your, with your people. Did you ever meet her? No. Did you meet anyone from his side? No.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Nope. And that was like the other frustrating part too, is like he, my older brother, I have three brothers and my older brother is like very invested and was very protective. And he was like, I love you. I support you. But like, I don't know if I want to be on camera, but within 24 hours of us getting back, he called me and was like, Hey, can you put me on speaker?
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And like, I'd love to talk to Dave. And they had a, they had multiple phone call conversations with me there. And he didn't obviously even give me that with anyone in his family.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Like I've gotten so close with like Taylor and Sarah and we live like so close to each other. And so we just see each other a lot and it's nice to have friendships from it, but also like friendships who experienced this and can speak to what we went through. And relate to you.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Yeah. Yeah. I think when he got his phone back, he was out of it.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Girl, I want to jump through that TV screen. Same. Same. I had probably the same emotions as you. the world watching.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
He gets his phone back. What? So again, like you see us have this conversation in Honduras about this connection that we made and you see me say to him, like, he wasn't someone I dated. He wasn't someone I wanted to date. Like I'm here now, but you guys have this weird random connection. Yeah. And he was like, fine with that.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
I mean, obviously we had the conversation, but it's not like it was ever brought up again in the getaways. And then we get his phone back and I think he starts to think, oh, I have such a different story of this. Like his phone is blowing up with his friend saying, you just got engaged to a girl with a boyfriend.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And like, again, I understand that that would have been very frustrating, but instead of turning to me and saying like, can you speak more to this? He just like sat there and kind of immediately put his walls back up. And so like, you see me say this halfway through our time in Minneapolis where I'm like, I feel like I lost you this week, but like, I think I lost him that day. Yeah.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Yeah, I mean, no one, unless you've gone through this, you truly don't understand the emotional roller coaster that it puts you on. So having girls from it is huge. So, okay, I guess we'll get right into the tea. Are you dating? Are you single? I'm not dating anyone. I am single. I feel like I need to be after the last year that I had. I just need to like take a beat. Yeah.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
That from like rumors that I've heard, I don't think that he was sitting in his apartment being celibate for the last 32 years. For the last 32 years. So, but like, again, I don't have like concrete details of that. I think he really thought he had like all of the facts with me and I didn't. And also the other thing is like, I was hearing stuff, but I didn't care enough.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
I don't know why I would have been like, I need to know every bit of your sexual history that did not matter to me. But it really mattered to him.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
Yeah. So there, and I did say that when we were at the cycling studio and, like, we had brought it up with my friends. I remember as we were closing things out, I said to him, like, I need you to figure out if you're going to trust me or not because I can't keep... And I say, I'm so helpless. Like I can't do much more beyond tell you my, like my story.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And it was frustrating because he, I mean, obviously we're living together and so we're filming, but we're also not filming. We both work remote. So we kind of see each other throughout the day. And we would have like we were just living life together and we would have conversations like light conversations, heavy conversations.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
We would talk about meeting our families and friends over the weekend. And then when the cameras would come up, it would be like the only thing he would come back to is this guy.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And I remember thinking like, this is so minuscule. Can we talk about something? Can we talk about if we're going to get married in two weeks? I was sitting there being so confused about how I felt about this person. I was seriously considering marrying him, obviously. I feel like that is obvious when you watch it back.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And so it just felt like, when are we going to get to the stuff that actually matters in a relationship and with a potential future husband? So that was the most frustrating part is having him continue to... bring up the same thing in like a very specific environment. He wasn't talking about that to me off camera.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
I mean, like we're filming for so many hours, as you know, there's like so much else that comes up, but yeah, I would say a lot of our on-camera conversations were always revolved around that. Well, what kept you fighting for it?
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
I honestly think that as you know this experience and the pods and the getaways, you develop this insanely emotional connection with someone that, again, I remember leaving being like, I'm so connected to this person, emotionally, physically. I had felt so close to him in a way that I'd never felt with someone.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And in previous relationships, Dave and I have talked about this before where I've like never really made it past the six to nine mark with people. I kind of like give up a little bit more quickly if I find something that I don't like. So I remember thinking like, okay, I have this really strong connection with someone and I should probably do things a little bit differently.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And again, you see me fighting for my life in a way that I just like haven't done before. Like that really was navigating very new terrain for me.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
do with that information what you want right I'm not doing this I'm not doing this uh-huh well and even like you see his lack of problem solving when we're having this argument in the kitchen and he goes out with his friends after I say I'd rather you not like because I remember thinking every time you go to your friends you feel like you have a different detail to come back and tell me that's incorrect it felt like he just kept coming back like stronger and bigger like yeah actually
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
With the same thing that I'm like, I thought we debunked this. Like, I didn't understand. But so he's like saying he goes out with his friends and then he doesn't come back to the apartment that night.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And I remember like laying in bed with the hallway light on waiting to like wake up and see it off and have him be there. And like, I mean, I was up every hour that night and said, wake up at three in the morning to a text that was like, I'm going to stay back at my apartment. Yeah. I remember like I've never felt like that in a relationship.
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Minnesota Nice with Love is Blind Season 8's Lauren, Taylor & Daniel
And I remember waking up being like, I will never feel like that again. Like that fucking sucked. And he came back and I remember he had like a little bit of a different perspective on things. He was a little bit more open to hearing me out. At least it seemed like that in the moment. So I remember thinking like, okay, my problem solving or conflict resolution is communication.