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Pop Apologists

253: Blind Items, Hollywood Breakups, and PR Relationships ft. Beyond the Blinds

Wed, 18 Dec 2024

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Lauren and Chan are joined by Troy and Kelli from Beyond the Blinds to chat about the top celebrity moments of 2024, jaw-dropping blind items, and celebrity predictions for 2025. They discuss the problematic cast of That 70’s Show (5:06), as well as a must-read celebrity memoir. They dive into the year’s top celebrity breakups (12:22). Kelli reveals an interesting theory on Taylor Swift’s connection to the Kansas City Chiefs (19:01). They pull back the curtain on how PR plays out in celebrity relationships, including their tinfoil hat theory on Taylor Swift’s relationships (23:13). They shine a light on celebrity pap walks (34:17). They break down which celebrities are struggling to adapt to the ever-changing definition of celebrity (37:15). Finally, they give their take on the VPR re-boot and the current season of RHONY (49:21). Listeners can find Troy and Kelli from Beyond the Blinds anywhere you listen to podcasts or at Patreon.com/BeyondTheBlinds  Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder a nd use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Head to MasterClass, where you can receive up to 50% off at MasterClass.com/POPAPOLOGISTS  To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or on Apple Podcasts, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Chapter 1: What are the biggest celebrity moments of 2024?

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I think he's the type of husband who sucks all the oxygen out of the room because he is the star. And maybe at first in their marriage, that was attractive to her. Maybe she like loved that energy. But then once that man cheats on you very publicly, maybe it just gets kind of old.

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Well, well, well, we are gathered here today with Chandler and two guests, Troy and Kelly from Beyond the Blinds, a hit celebrity gossip podcast where they take you beyond the blinds and dive deeper into the dark side of Hollywood. Their podcast is full of scandal, intrigue and gossip surrounding your favorite celebs. Troy and Kelly, thank you so much for joining us.

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What an intro.

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I know. Thank you for having us.

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Yeah. Thank you, guys.

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Of course. Well, we just feel like, you know, as the year comes to a close, it's really important that we sit together and we gaze back upon the year and share our favorite celebrity moments, scandals, and blight items from the year. So as they say, if we don't learn from the past, it will repeat itself. Doomed to repeat it? Yeah.

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Or whatever.

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Or whatever, precisely. Okay. So, yes, we've all brought our favorite moments from 2024, be it blinds or scandals. Who wants to go first? Chandler? Kelly?

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Kelly? I think Kelly should go first. Should we do blinds? Yeah, let's do blinds. Okay. And just remember, all blinds are alleged. We don't know if they're true or false. I have it tattooed on me, so don't forget.

Chapter 2: Which celebrities are facing relationship issues?

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Okay. Yeah.

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Wait. Oh, I have so many questions about this one. What other predictions you've gotten? Correct. But maybe before we go there. Sorry. I'm curious if you think that like what you think is the real problem in the marriage.

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I think the real problem is Justin's just like a narcissist.

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That man is the worst. Yeah. He's just terrible. Wasn't it the People magazine cover where he was jumping above her? Yeah.

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And it was like around the same time as the red carpet where he was like doing like cartwheels behind her. So it's like, yeah, he's such a narcissist and like a child star.

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Yeah. Yeah. He's still giving like Disney child star energy, you know?

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Yeah. I always say he's always going to be Justin Randall to me. From Star Search with his little suspenders and his cowboy boots and spurs.

Chapter 3: What is Kelli's theory on Taylor Swift and the Chiefs?

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I think he's the type of husband who sucks all the oxygen out of the room because he is the star. And maybe at first in their marriage, that was attractive to her. Maybe she loved that energy. But then once that man cheats on you very publicly, maybe it just gets kind of old. Maybe you're just kind of over the Justin show.

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Yeah, and she's so pro, that's my man, you know what I mean? Like, no matter how much people are, like, talking crap about him publicly, she's like, that is my man. Yeah, yeah. And it's, yeah, it has to, at a certain point, you're like, all right.

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This might be over.

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Okay, perm, calm down.

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Chapter 4: How does PR affect celebrity relationships?

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Okay, but Kelly, what other blinds have you gotten or predictions have you gotten? I got the Justin and Hailey baby.

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I predicted it at the end of the year last year. That was a big one. Was it an energy you picked up on? Yeah, it was just I had a feeling. I had a feeling and went with it. I'm a cancer. I love it.

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Miss Khalil. Okay. Should I do mine?

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Yes, please.

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Okay. This is, to be specific, a Mr. X blind. He's like a... It doesn't even matter. What actress slash celeb offspring sent an actress slash former friend who has a sibling in jail some anti-Scientology literature, and it was mailed back a day later with an SP, suppressive person, for those of you who are not in the church, declared attached. What a way to end a friendship. Okay.

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And that's Riley Keough, Alana Masterson, and Danny Masterson. And Danny is like one of our white whales.

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He's like... We hate him so much.

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We hate Danny, obviously.

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And Riley.

Chapter 5: What are the insights on celebrity paparazzi culture?

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And then she responded with, like, you're a suppressive person. She's the hottest suppressive person I've ever met.

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There's a lot of weirdness between, like, Riley and Lisa Marie and Scientology. Like, a lot of weirdness.

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Because, like, Lisa Marie was so tied to it, but then also so publicly known to have left it. And, like, when her book was going to, like, allegedly come out and people were speculating about what would be in it... Then everybody was like, is she going to talk about the church? You know?

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Chapter 6: How are celebrities adapting to changing fame?

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So, and then, I mean, Danny, it's just, it's a slippery slope because then it turns into Ashton and Wilmer and yeah. Wilmer. Wilmer. Yeah. This, the whole cesspool.

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The whole 70s show cast. Yeah, pretty much. All of them. Lock them up. Lock them up in my opinion. Yes. Wait, okay, this is not going to one of our favorites of the year, or it kind of is, but I'm just curious. You guys are experts on the Diddy case. You've been deep diving it, unpacking it all year, right, on the pod?

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Okay, so where do you think Ashton Kutcher falls in this story? Allegedly.

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We're both like... I mean, just the fact that on Hot Ones, Ashton Kutcher was like, the Diddy parties, I can't even talk about some of the stuff we did at them. I'm like... Really? There it is. Yeah. Wow. And he tried to make like a modern day Rat Pack with Danny Masterson, Wilmer Valderrama, Ashton, and Diddy.

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Yeah. Yeah, I think that at one point he was like the life of those parties. Because I think people forget like being associated with Diddy for a long time was like a flex. Like I get invited to the white parties, me and Kelly Osbourne or whatever, you know. And he was one of those people where it was like, oh, Ashton is so cool because he's always at Diddy's White Party and whatever.

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And now, of course, it's all come back to bite him in the ass, which is great. But yeah, I think he was a very important member of that group.

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Yeah. And I think we'd be remiss not to remember when he was up to no good with other women when he was with Demi Moore. You know, I literally just finished her book to Inside Out. And that's the movie. What is that? Is her book Inside Out? Yeah. Her book is inside something.

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I'm laughing because it's all I ever talk about. It's her book. I'm obsessed.

Chapter 7: What are the latest updates on the VPR reboot and RHONY?

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I'm good.

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Right answer. Yeah.

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Keep going.

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Demi Moore before was a person I was apathetic about after this ride for, and I haven't even seen the substance. I feel like I probably should, but yeah, right.

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For her time to go see.

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Yeah. I mean, actually, do you want to speak to Ashton maybe in the book?

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Sure. So, first of all, I think that that book is one of the greatest memoirs of all time, if not the best celebrity book ever written. But you do have to listen to it.

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You do. Yeah. Because she narrates it. Yeah.

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And her voice and its demeanor, you know.

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