Pop Apologists
256: Princess Diana's Letter Predicting Her Death... & Other Hollywood + Royal Conspiracies ft. Kate Casey
Wed, 15 Jan 2025
Lauren and Chan are joined by Kate Casey to discuss some of the biggest conspiracies to hit Hollywood, the British royals, and more. The gals dive into the rumors that Kris Jenner orchestrated the sale of Kim’s sex tape (1:52) and the difference in the sale of Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee’s sex tape (6:12). They chat about the rumours surrounding January Jones and director Matthew Vaughn (8:30). They revisit the rumours about Justin Bieber and Kourtney Kardashian (14:26). Lauren, Chan, and Kate touch on the mysterious death of Tafari Campbell, the Obama family’s chef (19:23). The gals chat about the Chappaquiddick incident involving Ted Kennedy (22:23). They take a look at the death of JonBenét Ramsey and some of the theories regarding her death (24:00). Lauren, Chan, and Kate revisit some of the mysteries surrounding the death of Princess Diana (36:03). The gals give their take on the reality of William and Kate’s marriage (46:39). They talk about celebrity clones and body doubles (49:32) and thoughts on Meghan and Harry’s holiday card (53:47). The gals give a quick moment for a reality tv round up (57:32). Finally, they chat about the conspiracy that Teresa Graves is actually Whitney Houston’s mother (1:00:27). Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp: Visit BetterHelp.com/popapologists to get 10% off your first month. Visit progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance. Head to ThriveMarket.com/pop and get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift! Visit See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Chapter 1: What are the Hollywood conspiracies discussed?
Can you imagine if you, for just people we know in our regular life, if we got a Christmas card from somebody and it's them doing charity work, we would rip them apart. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Well, well, well, we are here today with the one and only Kate Casey, our favorite Kate Casey, here to talk about Hollywood conspiracies with who knows literally everything about everything. Thank you so much for being on our show.
Thank you. I feel like I have just fit in right in. I'm one of the sisters. Your older, annoying sister, probably.
Our much more knowledgeable sister. But fellow blonde, welcome back to the show.
Thank you. Oh, my gosh. So fun to be here, yeah. And we are here in Hollywood, so it just is perfect. It could not be more fitting.
It's a little eerie. We can see, like, the Hollywood sign from our hotel room. And as I was preparing for this, I don't know, I just felt a little spooked. A little bit. Yeah, just slightly. Yeah, because the secrets here...
well that's my question is how dark are these people's secrets like deep you think like is it is it tunnels with children vibes or is it like just like a love child here and there like how insidious is what goes on here why you couple people that come here with big dreams and i feel like there's a part of them the minute they get here that sheds part of who they were and then who they want to be and
In that weird vortex, people make bad decisions. They meet people who don't have the best intentions. And in their attempt to remain the person that they want to be and the person they want to become, some crazy stuff I think happens.
Yeah. I think some deals with the devil are made. Yeah. And I think we should start with a particular devil in Hollywood, if I may be so bold. I think we should talk about Kim Kardashian's sex tape and the possibility that Kris Kardashian, or Kris Jenner, excuse me, orchestrated the sale of it.
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Chapter 2: Did Kris Jenner orchestrate Kim Kardashian's sex tape sale?
Chapter 3: What happened to Tafari Campbell, Obama's chef?
Yeah. Well, what my research revealed is that basically the autopsy just said confirms accidental drowning and toxicology reports are not public information in Massachusetts. So we don't know. I will say, I do think that very powerful people, they can rid themselves of that burden. Just say it. They can be unburdened by what has been with having that other person. Taken care of. Yeah. Oh, 100%.
A theory I saw was that Katy Perry is actually JonBenet. That is so absolutely so dumb. It's ridiculous.
I saw that and I was like. So people are so dumb.
I was just like, I don't know. People have too much time on their hands on the internet. Yes. Also, yeah, Katy Perry is kind of an odd one. But I mean, we could get into JonBenet because it sounds like you just did an episode on it. Yeah, you know a lot about the JonBenet disappearance. I actually feel like I'm not up to speed. Okay. So was her body ever found?
Yes. It was, okay. Okay, so her parents call 911 at 5.55 a.m. on December 26, 1996. They had been to a Christmas party the evening before. Now, when they arrive at the house, Patsy, the mother, is in the same clothes that she was in the previous evening at the Christmas party, but she said she woke up and put the same clothes on.
What you should know is she was a former Miss West Virginia, so we know women that are kind of vain.
Be like they would be primping and they would be getting... Odd.
Why would you put your same dirty clothes on that you had on the night before? She said she woke up in the morning, put the clothes on that she had the night before.
Like her evening wear?
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Chapter 4: What theories surround the Chappaquiddick incident?
Okay, so you say there was DNA on her of someone else. But it was so minuscule, it could have been the packaging, the person that packaged the underwear. There's not like a full profile of it because it's so small. But we know it's not her. Her own DNA? It's not her own DNA.
Also, just kind of giving a really horrific theory that the parents in their quest to cover up an accident that happened or just like, I don't know, some act of violence. They kind of did something with that cord or whatever to like make it seem like an intruder and an assault.
Right. Well, lots of people have wondered this for the last 28 years. There was a new Netflix documentary. I actually interviewed the director and John Ramsey is interviewed in it. And they believe that the police and the media stretched the truth and did such a bad job examining the case that the real perpetrator is out there somewhere.
But there are a lot of people on the other side who believe that there was an accident that happened in the house and that in their haste to maybe cover it up that perhaps the mother had written the ransom note. But again, it's been 28 years. There's been no movement closer to answers.
There's no handwriting analysis of the ransom note.
There was. And they add both parents and the son do a handwriting analysis. They counted out the father and the son, but it was inconclusive with the mother.
And the idea is that the mom was potentially just in those clothes all night until this happened.
Mm-hmm. There's also a 911 call and it's hard to tell. There's like a sound in the background and experts have tried to zone in on what was said. And it does sound like a nine year old boys in the background asking, what happened? Can I help? And John Ramsey is saying something along the lines of like, this does not pertain to you.
But in an interview that they did on New Year's Day in 1997 on CNN, they say they were all asleep, including their son, until the 911 call was made or maybe right after that she woke them up. That would conflict with what they said.
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Chapter 5: What are the theories about JonBenét Ramsey's death?
Right. And this is something I will say.
I think that Harry just doesn't seem like an actual Windsor to me. And I do think that he is most likely the son of the bodyguard. Wow.
Because he just looks so much like. Sometimes I think, though, that he looks a lot like Prince Philip.
Yeah, I've seen those split screens. But don't you think he doesn't have that evil Windsor energy? Like he's just too much of a nice ginger. Yeah.
yeah he does have like a happy-go-lucky kind of energy that none of them have yeah charles and william they just both seem like like scowling i could see them getting you read the book it's fair yeah of course oh the one thing that again everyone's experience in life is so different and the lens you look through is so different but maybe it's because like my dad's total whack job but the way he talked about his dad and complained about him i was like
he doesn't sound that bad about prince charles yeah it was like he sounds like a great guy oh interesting yeah i mean he definitely i feel like the fact that he didn't hug them when he let them know he's british i don't know my mom never hugged me and we're american like but he came in and he said darling boy i'm so sorry she's gone i'm so sorry darling boy That doesn't sound that bad to me.
Darling boy's cute, for sure.
And honestly, after watching The Crown, which is obviously an interpretation, I felt a lot more endeared to Charles. I know. Than I did even after reading Spare. Watching The Crown, I don't know. I just think that he was raised by a very cold mom himself. Yeah. And he didn't really know how to maybe show love or whatever. And I do think that he was... I don't know.
I have empathy for Charles, I guess. King Charles. King Charles, if you're listening, I have empathy for you. Don't kill me. I think it's a photo of Queen Elizabeth. She's getting off a plane after doing a royal tour that lasted months, and she's seeing her toddler, Prince Charles' son, and she shakes his hand.
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