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True Crime Vault: Overboard

1216.852

Lisa left Schuyler's father when he was just a little kid.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

1224.2

How did you grow up? Tell me a little bit about the situation.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

1230.428

And what kind of guy was he?

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

1238.911

And in fact, he was involved with drugs and was frequently in trouble with the law.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

1513.182

We put that all together, and these two young people are clearly not qualified to own a 55-foot boat.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

1602.77

It's been two weeks since Tom and Jackie have disappeared. And the police go on board the well-deserved, which is moored exactly where it was left.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

1651.688

Jen's father brings back bleach and some bags, all they say to help clean their new boat. So logically, police ask him, does he know where Jennifer and Skyler are?

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

2023.95

Causing you all this grief.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

2028.459

But the detectives have one more key piece of evidence they want Skyler to take a look at. It's this video. video of Jennifer and Skyler trying to take money out of the Hawks' account in Arizona.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

215.265

I met Tom's son, Ryan, in Newport Beach when we first started doing this story in 2009.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

2546.336

Is she the brains in the family?

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

264.295

The more you learned about Tom and Jackie, the more you liked them. They were rich in love, not so much in the pocketbook. They saved their money. They were frugal. They worked hard.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

2831.024

The same day the Hawk's car is found down in Mexico, Skyler DeLeon is back in Newport Beach talking to the police.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

2898.508

There goes Skylar, thinking he's a free man, but not for long. The very next day, Skylar is under arrest.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

3119.138

Jarvie, after he's freed from jail, keeps in contact with Skyler because he remembers being promised a big score.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

3221.147

Mexican police had interviewed Skylar DeLeon way back in 2003 about the murder of John Jarvie. But that case was totally unresolved until the Newport Beach case came along.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

3238.481

But then police are looking for a break in the Hawks case.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

3262.761

She says she was there when Skyler bought the boat from the Hawks.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

3617.002

Alonzo and Skylar go aboard the well-deserved.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

4028.772

It's hard to believe anybody could do such a terrible crime, especially a guy like mild-mannered Skyler DeLeon. And then, there's the motive.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

4090.08

What we still don't know is Jennifer's role.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

4237.546

How much in charge was Jen?

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

4243.564

Probably we had our roles reversed. Was she the brains in the family?

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

4389.696

I interviewed Skyler DeLeon in jail in 2009. Just before the interview, Skyler was rushed to the hospital after an incident at the jail.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

4424.317

Have this been something you've been thinking about for a while? Yeah, for a long time. Tell me what's behind that.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

4446.456

So then when you get to jail, why did you figure you weren't ever gonna get the surgery, so you might as well try it yourself?

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

4459.759

So you're still a man?

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

4492.79

I mean, should we walk away from this program, this interview, knowing only that you cold bloodedly killed three people?

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

4503.215

What else should we know?

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

4526.705

So, Skyler DeLeon goes on trial in the fall of 2008, two years after his wife had been convicted. He's charged with murdering Tom and Jackie Hawks and also John Jarvie in Mexico.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

4612.485

When you think about your childhood, what do you think about it?

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

4632.349

Your dad physically abused you, beat you.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

4635.832

And then he had a friend who sexually abused you. Yes. So how does that terrible childhood have any relevance to the situation we're in today where three people are murdered at his hands?

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

4663.23

There's only one problem with Skyler's defense. You have to believe him, and he's a proven liar.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

4697.543

You told people you were a sniper. Oh, yes. You weren't, but you told people that. Yes. Give me a little insight of that. Skylar, why would you do those things?

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

4710.311

Skylar seemed happy to talk about his gender surgery, but he didn't want to talk about his murder victims. John Jarvie.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

4717.956

Was he a friend of yours?

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

4731.036

Skyler DeLeon is one of the most haunting figures I've ever interviewed. How he tied these poor people up in an anchor and threw them off the boat while they were still alive. It was just the worst thing I could ever think of. Should we walk away from this program, this interview, knowing only that you cold-bloodedly killed three people?

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

474.543

You're not going to poop on me, are you? The Hawks decided to downsize. They were going to go from that huge boat to a small boat, dock it in Mexico, get a little house there, and still be close enough to go see the grandson who lived in Arizona.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

4754.397

What else should we know?

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

4783.129

Ryan Hawk, who is the spokesman, of course, for the family, the son, told us that your apology is more about you. You're sorry that you got caught, but you're not really sorry about his family, his parents.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

4828.071

That's what the former child actor got. A few months after Skylar's convicted, another accomplice, John F. Kennedy, he was the muscle. He's tried, convicted, and sentenced to death.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

4933.397

And it's worth remembering, I know I do, that even as we were interviewing him, Schuyler was already planning how he could live with women in jail and not men. There's some talk about one of the reasons you wanted to do this, you wanted to be in the women's jail.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

581.648

Don Treffin and Jim Hawks are looking for Jackie and Tom, so they go to Newport Beach. There, they find the well-deserved, but no couple.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

698.255

Family and friends are already desperate. They start tracing and backtracking their steps to see what might have happened to them.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

836.744

Jennifer has an explanation. She tells Jim that she and her husband, Skyler, bought the boat in cash, in full.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

871.138

Not surprisingly, Jim thought this might be a little suspicious. So he called Arizona to one of their friends.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

968.345

So Newport police start digging, looking at Skyler and Jennifer. And you know what? They find stuff, troubling stuff.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

998.101

That receipt on the boat, it's from Target and it has a bizarre shopping list on it.

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True Crime Vault: Forgiving A Killer

1156.957

You weren't graduating from college?

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True Crime Vault: Forgiving A Killer

1472.627

He asked you point blank, did you do it, Bart?

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True Crime Vault: Forgiving A Killer

1477.811

Even knowing he was going to forgive you.

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True Crime Vault: Forgiving A Killer

2049.416

You know, what if the diagnosis is you are a sociopath?

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True Crime Vault: Forgiving A Killer

2201.963

Why, Bart? I mean, this is the question that everybody wants to know. Why?

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True Crime Vault: Forgiving A Killer

2211.991

You blame them even though they really loved you and nurtured you and tried to give you everything that they could possibly give you.

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True Crime Vault: Forgiving A Killer

2313.805

Bart, how do you feel about your mother?

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True Crime Vault: Forgiving A Killer

318.217

That's... What's bothering you right now?

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True Crime Vault: Forgiving A Killer

33.534

You were raised by a loving family. Yes, ma'am. But you still decided to kill them.

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True Crime Vault: Forgiving A Killer

592.204

You were raised by a loving family. Your mother loved you. Your father loved you. Your brother loved you.

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True Crime Vault: Forgiving A Killer

601.329

But you still decided to kill them.

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True Crime Vault: Forgiving A Killer

634.985

This is like a half hour before your family's gonna get gunned down. What were you feeling?

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True Crime Vault: Forgiving A Killer

67.462

But why, Bart? I mean, this is the question that everybody wants to know, why?

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True Crime Vault: Forgiving A Killer

672.607

At the time, what were you feeling?

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True Crime Vault: Forgiving A Killer

774.181

Where are you in the house right now?

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True Crime Vault: Forgiving A Killer

776.742

Okay. Do you see the officer, Bart?

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True Crime Vault: Forgiving A Killer

794.589

Very black. You had yourself shot as part of this plan. Was that your idea?

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Bad Rap: Before and After

344.905

We removed the P. The P was getting in between us. You know, this is that we entering the age of Diddy. It's five letters, one word. We making it clear and concise.

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What Happened to Holly Bobo?: Under the Microscope

1354.935

Where is everyone at? MomTalk has gotten to a really hostile point. Demi's willing to kick Jessie out of the group. I feel like I'm walking into a lion's den. It's going to get messy, for sure. MomTalk is turning on each other left and right. The police are here. I can't see this going any other way but a pure bloodbath. This is so toxic.

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What Happened to Holly Bobo?: Under the Microscope

179.654

On storefronts, on street signs, on mailboxes, pink ribbons and pictures of Holly Bobo are posted all over the small, tight-knit community of Parsons. Volunteers say they don't plan on stopping until she is found. It's just unbearable. I can't hardly imagine.

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True Crime Vault: Toxic Love

1641.553

I'm this weird part of my life. I really am.

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True Crime Vault: Toxic Love

1648.556

I am getting along with my wife better than I ever have. All you have to do is agree to something that you would never do. Farmer's market? Oh boy, would I? My buddy dies. I show up to the funeral. Open casket. You told me he was dead. I believed you.

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True Crime Vault: Toxic Love

85.412

That's quite a qualifier.

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True Crime Vault: Shot in the Dark

1052.931

You spoke with her on that Sunday.

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True Crime Vault: Shot in the Dark

1059.775

Did she seem nervous, upset?

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True Crime Vault: Shot in the Dark

421.041

Did you all relate this to Emma? Did you feel concerned for her? Does she seem to feel concerned?

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Bad Rap: Me & U

1238.668

Cassie and the building cost you $96.3 million. So it's been a couple of years since we've heard some music from you. So what have you been up to over the past couple of years?

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Bad Rap: Me & U

1259.823

That's awesome. So what's the album going to be called?

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Bad Rap: Me & U

1263.247

All right, you got an idea of when we can expect it?

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What Happened to Holly Bobo?: A Scream on Swan Johnson Road

1126.564

One thing that has been described is that that scene in those first moments outside your home was chaos. You had people showing up. You had police arguing with other police over who had jurisdiction. You were running through the woods yourself. At one point, you even told the police she was younger than she was in the hopes of getting an Amber Alert.

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What Happened to Holly Bobo?: A Scream on Swan Johnson Road

1417.772

Breathe in. Breathe out. Why are you resisting? Is it too late to get a refund?

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True Crime Vault: Undercover Mother

39.839

You spent hours and hours basically on this street corner.

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True Crime Vault: Undercover Mother

801.168

Give me a sense of the neighborhood. Old Victorian, historic. Not your classic New York City neighborhood.

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True Crime Vault: Undercover Mother

809.19

It's off the beaten path. A little bit. So where did all of your son's friends live in relationship to here? In these houses.

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True Crime Vault: From Classroom to Captive

1125.717

The teachers were doing the teasing? Yes, a lot of them were.

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True Crime Vault: From Classroom to Captive

2810.271

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True Crime Vault: From Classroom to Captive

373.439

It's hard for you to talk about, isn't it? Yeah. You don't like to think about what was happening.

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True Crime Vault: From Classroom to Captive

445.509

So you knew him, you saw him around.

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True Crime Vault: From Classroom to Captive

910.792

He was telling you he did all of these crazy things?

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Bad Rap: Invincible

1757.83

So did anyone come to you and say, hey, man, we need you to take this hit for Diddy? No, I did that out of honor and integrity. Do you regret that night?

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Bad Rap: Invincible

1787.334

Did you see any behavior then that indicated some of the allegations we hear about now?

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Bad Rap: Invincible

2087.83

His bad boy business empire, with Diddy at the center, is now worth an estimated $345 million.

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Bad Rap: Invincible

2111.941

Some people might think that's a form of megalomania. That you would think that. A form of megalomania.

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Bad Rap: Invincible

2119.5

Is there anything you would not promote?

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Bad Rap: Invincible

2129.209

You know, I don't know, make your dog yap to a rat or something.

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Bad Rap: Invincible

454.463

Because, you know, you know how people think.

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Bad Rap: Invincible

469.79

You said that after Biggie's death, you took some time off to reflect.

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True Crime Vault: Sincerely, the Happy Face Killer

1053.208

Do you have any knowledge of the death?

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True Crime Vault: Sincerely, the Happy Face Killer

1260.331

We've shown you a Polaroid photograph of Tanya Ann Bennett. Do you recognize this person? No, I do not, sir. Do you recall ever having seen this person before in your life? No, sir. Did you have a conversation with an individual in a lounge, JB's, regarding the murder of Tonya Bennett? No, sir. Do you have any knowledge of the death of Tonya Bennett? No, sir.

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True Crime Vault: Sincerely, the Happy Face Killer

2150.411

You pulled into the lot. What did you see, if anything? I seen John standing with a young lady. That young lady we're talking about is Tanya Bennett, is that right? Correct.

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True Crime Vault: Sincerely, the Happy Face Killer

2185.91

Did it progress into something where there wasn't laughter any longer?

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True Crime Vault: Sincerely, the Happy Face Killer

2197.326

Did he tell you that he was going to have sex with her?

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True Crime Vault: Sincerely, the Happy Face Killer

2200.347

You told us there was a point where John said, quote, she's not going home, end of quote. Is that his words to the best of your memory? Yes, it is.

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True Crime Vault: Sincerely, the Happy Face Killer

2242.705

And what were you doing while he was having sex with her? I was holding the rope outward.

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True Crime Vault: Sincerely, the Happy Face Killer

4619.504

Did it occur to you that you were taking somebody's life?

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True Crime Vault: Sincerely, the Happy Face Killer

4640.069

It is so gruesome, Keith, what you're describing. I mean, there's a possibility that these people's family members might be listening to you describing this.

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Death in the Dorms Season 2: Episode 6: Latasha Norman

1016.481

Take me back to November 2007. Tell me what happened.

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Bad Romance: Barefoot Witness

1015.508

Does she ever threaten to talk to your wife?

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Bad Romance: Barefoot Witness

1034.434

He says, yes, I was with Lentel. And then afterwards, she went her separate ways and I went, hung out at a restaurant.

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Bad Romance: Barefoot Witness

1043.921

Where'd you go after you missed the bar?

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Bad Romance: Barefoot Witness

1360.235

What else does that little toddler know?

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Bad Romance: Barefoot Witness

1410.874

Yeah, the NBA playoffs are here. And it's about to be ridiculous. Unbelievable. Unfair. Damn right nasty. Straight up. Can't miss. Don't blink. Grab your popcorn and strap in cinnamon. This isn't about who's next. This is about who's now. This time is different. The NBA playoffs presented by Google. Continue on ESPN and ABC.

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Bad Romance: Barefoot Witness

1488.284

What did you hear when mommy got hurt? What did you hear with your ears?

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Bad Romance: Barefoot Witness

1582.201

So Robert Marks, originally, when he's questioned by detectives, he says, yes, I was with Lintel.

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Bad Romance: Barefoot Witness

1588.803

When's the last time you saw her?

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Bad Romance: Barefoot Witness

1593.799

He said, afterwards, she went her separate ways and I went and hung out with the guys at a restaurant. It's not what happened according to his cell phone records.

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Bad Romance: Barefoot Witness

2103.383

I actually had the opportunity to interview Robert. He was leaving the East Baton Rouge Parish Courthouse, and he came out, and I said, Robert, is there anything you'd like to say?

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Bad Romance: Barefoot Witness

2119.352

He looked me in the eye and said I had nothing to do with it.

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Bad Romance: Barefoot Witness

2287.613

What did you hear when Mommy got hurt? What did you hear with your ears?

20/20

Bad Romance: Barefoot Witness

2365.995

Oddly, the defense doesn't offer up a reason why we don't see Marks on those Twin Peaks videos.

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Bad Romance: Barefoot Witness

266.973

Do you know where your mommy went? No. Where? Can you point the direction she went?

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Bad Romance: Barefoot Witness

597.959

I don't know what's going on. How old are you? You should get a lawyer. You have no idea how those people hurt this girl.

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Bad Romance: Barefoot Witness

70.171

We had just the makings of a real horror story.

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Bad Romance: Barefoot Witness

980.587

When's the last time you saw her? I saw her yesterday.

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Bad Romance: Barefoot Witness

990.234

How long are you serious? I'm 38. Is she alone? Very much.

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True Crime Vault: Undercover Mother

1017.37

That was such a joke. They said that John was the boss or the captain and that you were capos.

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True Crime Vault: Undercover Mother

1236.272

You became your own private investigator.

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True Crime Vault: Undercover Mother

1256.026

You spent hours and hours basically on this street corner.

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True Crime Vault: Undercover Mother

1343.814

Even if it meant taking him to bed? Of course, of course. But it didn't come to that?

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True Crime Vault: Undercover Mother

1505.669

It destroyed it. You were quoted as saying, you know, I could get another husband. I can't get another son. That's right.

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True Crime Vault: Undercover Mother

1722.604

I wanted to get your reactions. to this interview that we did. When you see his face, what's your reaction?

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True Crime Vault: Undercover Mother

1853.881

And how does an investigator like you move forward on getting somebody to trust you?

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True Crime Vault: Undercover Mother

1893.1

But he's sticking by the jailhouse confession.

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True Crime Vault: Undercover Mother

2461.178

How long has this Christmas tree been here?

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True Crime Vault: Undercover Mother

2464.382

So you never took it down?

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True Crime Vault: Undercover Mother

2585.855

It's Juju Chang with ABC News 2020. How are you? How are you doing? Did you have anything to do with the murder? What was your reaction when you found out the lengths that your mother went to to go undercover to try to get to the truth?

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True Crime Vault: Undercover Mother

2621.903

Some people might argue that the Fishers deserve closure in this as well. And they do. Of course they do. And you had empathy for them.

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True Crime Vault: Undercover Mother

32.711

You spent hours and hours basically on this street corner.

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True Crime Vault: Undercover Mother

370.896

So this kid you had just met, pretty out of it.

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True Crime Vault: Undercover Mother

374.519

Didn't have money. Let's just take him home and let him sleep it off.

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True Crime Vault: Undercover Mother

396.483

And yet that impromptu party turned into perhaps one of the biggest mistakes of his life. Oh, yeah.

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True Crime Vault: Undercover Mother

800.124

It wasn't a trailer park in 8 Mile.

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Wild Crime: Mask of Sanity | S4 Ep. 4

1302.401

Hast du any doubts about your competency or ability to understand what I'm saying?

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Wild Crime: Mask of Sanity | S4 Ep. 4

467.995

Ihr Name war auf deinem Computer. Es gibt viele Namen auf dem Computer. Wir haben ihr Name gesucht. Ich habe noch keine Ahnung, ob sie tot ist. Oder wurde sie wirklich von einem Seriökiller getötet?

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'Radioactive' - Ep. 3: Contaminated

3295.115

Karen McGee implicated your daughter. You might say that they even tried to smear her. How do you feel about some of the things they said?

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'Radioactive' - Ep. 3: Contaminated

3312.133

How about you, Mrs. Silkwood? How did that make you feel?

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1016.659

The morning of Laura Grillo's murder, her fiance, John Makris, was meeting two of his employees, Jesus Trevino and James Vieda, at a Home Depot in Dallas.

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1046.301

Jesus Trevino is not only John's employee, he's also going to be the best man in John and Laura's wedding.

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1094.835

It's relevant to authorities because these two alibi witnesses for John Makris both have criminal pasts.

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1133.303

Not toward the Home Depot, but to the suburban neighborhood where John and Laura lived.

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1181.004

With the nationwide manhunt for Jesus Trevino underway, John Makros is also on local television, and he's saying he's looking for answers.

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1208.379

Why is the question the police have as well. So detectives turn to John Makris for answers.

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1233.679

But detectives wonder, did this couple have hidden secrets?

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1273.13

And after that, out of the blue, John proposes to her.

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1279.355

John counters Laura's breakup email by asking her to marry him. And she says yes.

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1312.444

You were her maid of honor.

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1335.293

It's just eight days before their November wedding when Laura is killed. That morning, her best friend Heather is shopping for Laura's bridal shower.

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1357.929

In an instant, Laura's friends and family go from planning for her wedding to planning her funeral.

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

137.588

What did she like about Rowlett?

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1373.909

What was John's behavior like after she was killed?

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1392.679

The very day following Laura's murder, John moves the children back into the house.

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

141.451

And she wanted to lay down roots in this little community?

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1433.134

But John does ask for help from the neighbors to clean up Laura's blood from the kitchen floor.

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1455.342

He made someone clean up her blood in the grout of a towel with Laura's... Toothbrush.

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

146.615

Did she feel safe in Rowlett?

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1477.631

Laura's maid of honor says John wants to try to get refunds for the wedding cake and even the flowers.

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1499.746

The wedding flowers be turned into funeral arrangements.

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1530.646

Detectives decide that John's employee, James Vieda, the one who'd only known him for three weeks, is the one most likely to cut a deal. And they bring a Texas Ranger into the interrogation room.

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1560.839

And one interview makes all the difference.

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1643.544

Five months into the investigation, police are still searching for Jesus Trevino, that employee who met up with John Makris on the morning of the murder.

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1659.295

Finally, a tip leads authorities more than 1,000 miles away.

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1673.632

Jesus Trevino is in custody, but he's not talking. So investigators turn again to John Macris' other employee, James Vieda.

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1687.636

This time, police bring in an investigator with the Texas Rangers.

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Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1693.957

Vieda, it seems, is starstruck.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1737.387

James Vieda decides to play, and over the course of a four-hour interview, he paints a disturbing picture of a plot, a crime, and a cover-up. His story starts with a call from an old friend, Jesus Trevino, that other man from the morning Laura was killed.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1761.71

Villela says the conversation quickly turned from working a construction job to becoming an accomplice in a murder.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1782.288

Vieda says he was paid $1,000 just to drive Jesus to Laura's home.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1812.443

James Vieva tells police Laura Grillo's death was no robbery gone wrong. He says it was a murder for hire. Orchestrated by the man Laura was just days away from marrying, John Macris.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1880.554

Investigators find text messages John Macra sent Jesus Trevino on the morning Laura was killed, saying, don't be late. It's a good day to get some work done.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

1975.151

The other's confession may be a breakthrough, but police still have a problem. Cameras never capture Jesus Trevino and his black sedan anywhere near the crime scene. But James Vieira has an answer for that, too.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

2027.645

Vieira says he doesn't know what kind of car the new one is, but he does know where to find it. Investigators recover this silver Kia sedan in a local Dallas garage. And when police go back to the surveillance video in Rowlett, sure enough.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

2069.588

John Makris is in custody, and investigators are about to reveal just how far back they believe the plot to kill Laura Grillo goes.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

2158.813

John Macris and Jesus Trevino were charged with capital murder. They pled not guilty.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

2179.321

And now it's John Makris, Laura Grillo's fiance, who's in the interrogation room with that Texas Ranger. He denies having anything to do with Laura's murder.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

2211.701

Investigators don't believe him.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

2217.662

They say John Makris is just playing the part of an innocent man.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

2232.681

That's when investigators become aware of evidence that they claim suggests Makris had been planning the murder for months.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

2256.349

According to the police report, a friend of Trevino's offered him $15,000 to kill his wife or $5,000 to find someone who would. But according to the police, he didn't say who that friend was. This nearly a year before Laura Grillo was murdered.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

2282.323

The case was referred to the Texas Rangers. They declined ABC News' request for an interview.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

2313.92

And soon after that, John Makris proposes. But investigators don't believe he ever intended to go through with any wedding.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

2339.724

When John is arrested, little Maria is taken in by Laura's friend, Heather. And in September of 2018, John Makris goes on trial in Dallas County.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

2364.357

His defense doesn't make sense to the jury either. John Makris is convicted of capital murder. And so is Jesus Trevino, the man who actually pulled the trigger. They are sentenced to life without parole. But what about the driver, James Vieda? He too was charged with capital murder, but made a deal with prosecutors.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

2422.679

John Makros is now behind bars for life, but his next step is hard to believe. He's ready to go back to court, this time to keep Laura's best friend, Heather, from adopting his young daughter, the daughter she had been raising. What happened when you get that notification that John wants his daughter?

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

2462.33

Laura Grillo was not the only victim in this brutal crime. So are her three children, including four-year-old Maria, whom Laura shared with John Makris. All of them have lost their mother and their home.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

2484.659

They lost the only siblings they knew.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

2494.207

When John Makras was arrested, Heather, Laura's best friend and neighbor, took Maria in.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

2512.685

Thank you. I don't know.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

383.763

Laura is John Makris' fiancée.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

388.96

What does that stand for?

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

415.578

Police are left to wonder, why would anyone want to kill a 37-year-old mother of three eight days before her wedding? Was she a robbery victim or could she have been a target?

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

528.574

Go left. Make them down. Mystery surrounds the shooting death of Laura Grillo at her home outside Dallas, Texas.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

558.949

I keep calling, calling, calling, no answer. I call. And that includes Laura's fiancé, John Macris, who runs his own construction company and is originally from Greece.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

609.325

John Makris and his mother, who was here from Greece for the wedding, are together that morning but away from this house. Laura's brother Brian, the one who called 911, says he was asleep and did not hear a gunshot.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

649.064

So Rowlett, Texas police detectives decide to take a closer look at Laura's relationship with her fiance, John Makris. Liz Frog is Laura's younger sister.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

680.011

Was Laura a romantic?

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

696.154

Laura has been married before and has two children, so she decides to take things slowly with John Makros.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

714.896

She moved to Texas, but she did not move in with him.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

739.408

How did she feel about the pregnancy?

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

771.769

But when the baby's born, all that is forgotten. John Makris dotes on baby Maria. This suburban home in Rowlett holds the entire family, Laura's kids, the toddler, and Laura's mom and brother. Laura juggles raising the growing family and helping at the kids' school, as well as volunteering at the local fire and police departments.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

824.072

When detectives asked John Makris to come in for an interview here at the Rowlett Police Department, it was a building he'd been to many times before as a police volunteer. In the interview room, Detective Cruz Hernandez breaks the news to John Makris that the victim has been identified.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

873.982

Detectives remember what John said at the scene when they asked him who lived in the house.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

891.898

He never mentions Laura.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

901.161

Detectives asked John Makros what he and Laura did the morning of her murder.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

955.58

So who had killed Laura Grillo? Police asked John if Laura had any enemies.

20/20

Bad Romance: No Tomorrow

979.83

Filled with questions and short on leads, Rowlett detectives keep digging and they find out something that they didn't expect.

20/20

True Crime Vault: Slender Man Attackers

1056.003

You were watching Bambi and you noticed something. What was it?

20/20

True Crime Vault: Slender Man Attackers

1088.456

She wasn't at all concerned about the mom?

20/20

True Crime Vault: Slender Man Attackers

1131.772

You were witnessing what you thought was a very normal friendship.

20/20

True Crime Vault: Slender Man Attackers

1317.264

Has Peyton talked at all about the horror of that moment?

20/20

True Crime Vault: Slender Man Attackers

1338.873

Morgan said, it was weird that I didn't feel remorse.

20/20

True Crime Vault: Slender Man Attackers

1344.196

This was a girl who had been in your home many, many times.

20/20

True Crime Vault: Slender Man Attackers

1395.058

Not only was this hurting, it was multiple stabbings with the intent to kill. Yes.

20/20

True Crime Vault: Slender Man Attackers

1570.188

Did you know anything about Morgan's fascination with Slender Man?

20/20

True Crime Vault: Slender Man Attackers

1581.915

Did you ever think that, you know, this is a little too dark for my daughter?

20/20

True Crime Vault: Slender Man Attackers

1714.178

How typical is it for a 12-year-old to write, I want to die?

20/20

True Crime Vault: Slender Man Attackers

1901.681

Was that one of the first things you thought of after the stabbings?

20/20

True Crime Vault: Slender Man Attackers

2040.221

You know, there are some who will say she planned it, and look what she did.

20/20

True Crime Vault: Slender Man Attackers

2178.372

Neither family knew that their daughters were mentally ill. Is that difficult for you to believe?

20/20

True Crime Vault: Slender Man Attackers

2269.327

They would know... that it's wrong to stab your friend 19 times in the woods. How did they not know this?

20/20

True Crime Vault: Slender Man Attackers

262.779

Do you think Peyton had any idea? No.

20/20

True Crime Vault: Slender Man Attackers

285.316

And no sign that two were plotting against Peyton?

20/20

True Crime Vault: Slender Man Attackers

293.599

How often would they go to the park?

20/20

True Crime Vault: Slender Man Attackers

303.417

But you thought because she had her two friends, it would be safe.

20/20

True Crime Vault: Slender Man Attackers

434.362

Yeah, to her chest and abdomen and arm and leg.

20/20

True Crime Vault: Slender Man Attackers

47.717

What were you trying to do with her when you stabbed her?

20/20

True Crime Vault: Slender Man Attackers

478.169

Did you say anything to Peyton as they were wheeling her away?

20/20

True Crime Vault: Slender Man Attackers

522.066

They were going to find a mansion in the woods?

20/20

Unlucky Numbers

1386.553

So where you wanna go to?

20/20

Unlucky Numbers

1391.875

Are you gonna miss your home?

20/20

Unlucky Numbers

3165.509

What do you want?

20/20

Unlucky Numbers

3168.829

And I do it in payments because I don't have that kind of cash. I'm going to have to sell some.

20/20

Unlucky Numbers

3965.187

Are you going to miss your home?

20/20

Unlucky Numbers

922.297

Do you get tired of people asking you for money all the time, Abe? Give me your opinion on it.

20/20

The Lies Beneath

2682.452

We wanted to ask you about the Sheriff's Office investigation into your missing husband. I have an attorney. You have an attorney? Yes.

20/20

Forever Young: Who Killed JonBenét Ramsey?

1054.438

The kidnappers had written that they would telephone you by 10 a.m.

20/20

Forever Young: Who Killed JonBenét Ramsey?

1236.3

You opened the door to the small room.

20/20

Forever Young: Who Killed JonBenét Ramsey?

1952.708

Your lawyers advised you then not to submit to police questions. Why not? People say, wouldn't you have wanted to tell them everything?

20/20

Forever Young: Who Killed JonBenét Ramsey?

2020.779

I want to go back to the funeral.

20/20

Forever Young: Who Killed JonBenét Ramsey?

2105.408

When you realized that you two were the prime suspects, what did you think?

20/20

Forever Young: Who Killed JonBenét Ramsey?

2181.644

You did an interview on CNN. Why did you do that?

20/20

Forever Young: Who Killed JonBenét Ramsey?

2288.217

Some of the authorities have said that you staged this, that you loosely tied your daughter's hands, that you put the noose, the garrote, to make it look as if some terrible person had done this, that this whole picture was staged.

20/20

Forever Young: Who Killed JonBenét Ramsey?

2329.444

If we had staged it, why would we have disturbed it? Mr. and Mrs. Ramsey, did either of you have anything to do with the death of your daughter?

20/20

Forever Young: Who Killed JonBenét Ramsey?

2342.13

No. Mr. Ramsey, did you kill John Burnett?

20/20

Forever Young: Who Killed JonBenét Ramsey?

2347.409

Mrs. Ramsey, did you kill your daughter? No, I did not kill my daughter. How do you feel when I ask you these questions?

20/20

Forever Young: Who Killed JonBenét Ramsey?

2387.808

There's so many puzzle pieces here that just don't fit. Do you really think your daughter's murderer will be found?

20/20

Forever Young: Who Killed JonBenét Ramsey?

3241.303

When you were interrogated by the police, you were interrogated separately? Yes.

20/20

Forever Young: Who Killed JonBenét Ramsey?

4719.277

So the memories bring tears to your eyes, but you're also a little more at peace?

20/20

Forever Young: Who Killed JonBenét Ramsey?

4748.101

Went through all of that without knowing that she'd been cleared.

20/20

Forever Young: Who Killed JonBenét Ramsey?

576.861

This is your first extended interview.

20/20

Forever Young: Who Killed JonBenét Ramsey?

585.669

You get up, you're dressed, what happens?

20/20

Forever Young: Who Killed JonBenét Ramsey?

694.99

The note said, if you do anything, if police come, if FBI come, your daughter will die. You called 911. Yes, I did.

20/20

Forever Young: Who Killed JonBenét Ramsey?

738.083

What was the atmosphere like as you sat and waited?

20/20

Forever Young: Who Killed JonBenét Ramsey?

811.371

There could have been fingerprints there. You had friends that were windexing the sink and washing dishes.

20/20

Forever Young: Who Killed JonBenét Ramsey?

925.921

The ransom note asked for an odd figure, $118,000. That was a bonus that you had received.

20/20

Forever Young: Who Killed JonBenét Ramsey?

953.7

Did you know that your husband got this kind of a bonus? Not at the time, no.

20/20

The Code Breakers

1129.926

When you look at these kinds of cases around the country, there is generally an investigator or a detective who never gives up.

20/20

The Code Breakers

1138.231

And in this case, it was Jeffrey Middleton.

20/20

The Code Breakers

1144.395

What was it, do you think, that kept him going on this case for so long?

20/20

The Code Breakers

2011.391

She'd been handcuffed.

20/20

The Code Breakers

2018.525

When her mother said her name, Yes. you thought, I know her.

20/20

The Code Breakers

2043.747

It gives you chills even today.

20/20

The Code Breakers

2399.62

It gives you chills even today.

20/20

The Code Breakers

2449.657

From when you were a nine-month-old baby. Yes. In the crib, just a few feet from your mother.

20/20

The Code Breakers

261.886

So you were 16 years old when you read the police report?

20/20

The Code Breakers

3415.635

At what point did hope return for you?

20/20

The Code Breakers

365.95

And the idea that this happened and you were just a couple of feet away.

20/20

The Code Breakers

3752.164

Do you remember when you learned that the prints were a match?

20/20

The Code Breakers

3768.701

So after decades, you have your answer. Yes.

20/20

The Code Breakers

3883.162

They go down to South Carolina, and they discover that this man had been living a full life.

20/20

The Code Breakers

3890.906

Married, children, a job.

20/20

The Code Breakers

3903.274

To that you say?

20/20

The Code Breakers

3954.88

You feel robbed that you did not get the opportunity to see him face to face?

20/20

The Code Breakers

3979.298

He would have seen that baby.

20/20

The Code Breakers

3983.419

That he left there in that crib all the time.

20/20

The Code Breakers

420.636

The fingerprint on the phone, how significant?

20/20

The Code Breakers

4703.245

I can see the satisfaction on your face. Justice after all these years.

20/20

The Code Breakers

4723.939

So these are the two who helped solve the case.

20/20

The Code Breakers

531.638

What were you told about your mother's absence when you were a little girl?

20/20

The Code Breakers

666.392

We can see it's the pain you still carry with you.

20/20

Family Lies?

1827.227

How's your relationship in general?

20/20

Family Lies?

2165.936

You left your house on or about 3, and we know you got to Glastonbury, based on your own words, on or about 4. Why would it take an hour to travel, and I'm guessing 20-something miles, at the rate of 65 miles an hour? It's just mathematically not possible. On or around 3. On or about 3.

20/20

Family Lies?

2212.273

Yes. I have to ask you straight up. Were you involved in your grandfather's death? Absolutely not. No.

20/20

Family Lies?

3283.054

It must have been terrifying.

20/20

Family Lies?

3428.511

If you have nothing to hide, there shouldn't be a problem answering the questions.

20/20

Family Lies?

3435.7

Oh, hi, Dave.

20/20

Family Lies?

3478.799

If someone said that you did not get along with your mother, that you did not like her, is there any truth to that at all?

20/20

Family Lies?

3501.513

Will you inherit all of what your mother had?

20/20

Family Lies?

3581.365

So at what point in your life would you say that you became really close with your grandfathers?

20/20

Family Lies?

3609.643

Yeah, the raft is my next bit, but we did explain that we need to hear about your whole life leading up to this incident. How can people know who Nathan is if we don't tell them? What was your relationship like with your grandfather?

20/20

Family Lies?

3632.513

Can you tell me more about what your grandfather did? He was a big figure in this part of the country.

20/20

Family Lies?

3659.574

Since we spoke a week ago, there's been a lot of speculation. People are suspicious of you. What do you want to say to those people who are saying something about his story that just isn't adding up?

20/20

Family Lies?

3682.167

There are suspicions about the boat trip. since we last got together a week ago.

20/20

Family Lies?

3689.32

I'm just asking you to defend yourself against these people who are saying that you did something to your boat that would make it sink.

20/20

Family Lies?

3715.233

Was there an issue with the boat that needed to be fixed?

20/20

Family Lies?

3729.541

Nathan, I'm trying to give you an opportunity to speak out against these allegations that have been made.

20/20

Family Lies?

3741.983

Another thing that's happened since we last got together, police searched your mom's home.

20/20

Family Lies?

3751.127

We're not trying to make you uncomfortable. We're trying to give you an opportunity to answer some of these allegations.

20/20

Family Lies?

3765.413

If you have nothing to hide, there shouldn't be a problem answering the questions.

20/20

Family Lies?

3776.012

Police never arrested you for the murder of your grandfather. Do you think it is unfair that people are bringing that up and talking about that now?

20/20

Family Lies?

3797.281

Can you understand when people see that you were the last person to see two people alive? They see that and they say you are either the most unlucky man alive or you had something to do with those two deaths. What do you say to that?

20/20

Family Lies?

4205.282

Nathan Carman's aunts do not want him to inherit that money, and they say essentially profit off of two deaths they believe he caused.

20/20

Family Lies?

4257.775

Did you have a close relationship with your mother, Linda Carman?

20/20

Family Lies?

4274.897

How often did you lie to the Windsor Police Department?

20/20

Family Lies?

4283.506

Pleading the fifth as to lying to the Windsor Police Department after your grandfather is dead.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

115.687

You've never told your story before. I haven't. Let's start at the very beginning.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

149.911

Were you scared?

20/20

Mountain of Lies

4824.994

It's so crazy to hear you say those words. Do you forgive him? I do, yeah.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

4844.952

Is there ever things that you wish you could say to your mom?

20/20

Run, Run, Run

1950.506

Are you scared that this person might come back?

20/20

Run, Run, Run

2055.094

Did you guys ever have any bad blooded between you two or anything like that?

20/20

Run, Run, Run

2061.877

No, no, no. any enemies that you know of without Alan telling you or any said rumors that Alan's not a good guy or anything like that? Never. Okay. Never.

20/20

Run, Run, Run

3150.262

Do you have any plans for the funeral yet?

20/20

Run, Run, Run

3192.927

Are you scared that this person might come back?

20/20

Run, Run, Run

4085.842

And when she said that, what was her demeanor? She laughed. That catch you off guard?

20/20

The After Show: The Rose Petal Murder

382.119

Are you worried? Because, you know, in cases like this, they always look at the fiance or the husband or the father of the child, that at some point they're going to come and they're going to arrest you in connection with this murder.

20/20

The After Show: The Rose Petal Murder

427.007

But, you know, either... Either you had some part of this or you were caught in the craziest murder case that any of us have ever heard of.

20/20

The After Show: The Rose Petal Murder

447.215

Did you have anything at all to do with the murder of Christina Parsons?

48 Hours

Untangling The Lies of Jodi Arias

1470.035

Why didn't you call the police?

48 Hours

Untangling The Lies of Jodi Arias

215.233

Why didn't you call the police?

48 Hours

Deadly Divorce, Part 1

1006.927

If he thought that maybe Charla had been injured that morning, why would he allow Darren Mack to see the little girl?

48 Hours

Deadly Divorce, Part 1

1159.586

So this wasn't just an explosion of violence.

48 Hours

Deadly Divorce, Part 1

1182.13

How far is the courthouse from this parking structure? This is approximately 170 yards. It would take some skill as a marksman to shoot that distance and to hit your target. What do you think?

48 Hours

Deadly Divorce, Part 1

1217.429

One murder. Did she fear for her life?

48 Hours

Deadly Divorce, Part 1

1326.876

Tell me about Darren's frustration with the family court system, specifically with Judge Weller.

48 Hours

Deadly Divorce, Part 1

1349.085

You're not uncomfortable saying out loud that Darren Mack is my friend?

48 Hours

Deadly Divorce, Part 1

1358.328

Even in light of these charges, these heinous crimes that he's charged with?

48 Hours

Deadly Divorce, Part 1

1471.765

Something big like what? Like a judge being shot?

48 Hours

Deadly Divorce, Part 1

1505.741

What kind of criticism have you heard about Judge Weller?

48 Hours

Deadly Divorce, Part 1

1517.871

Did he have a reputation of making rulings that were more favorable to women in his court?

48 Hours

Deadly Divorce, Part 1

1526.802

To the best of your knowledge, he didn't have any clear bias.

48 Hours

Deadly Divorce, Part 1

1559.097

What did Darren Mack say to you about Judge Weller?

48 Hours

Deadly Divorce, Part 1

1600.397

Did you explain to him in very clear terms that he could jeopardize this case? Absolutely. And what did he say to you?

48 Hours

Deadly Divorce, Part 1

1724.908

Do you think Judge Weller's rulings against Darren Mack pushed him over the edge?

48 Hours

Deadly Divorce, Part 1

1969.557

Let's be clear on what we're dealing with here. Your client, Darren Mack, did kill his ex-wife, Charla.

48 Hours

Deadly Divorce, Part 1

1994.907

Do you think he went temporarily insane that morning? No.

48 Hours

Deadly Divorce, Part 1

2048.21

What does that say to you?

48 Hours

Deadly Divorce, Part 1

2163.808

We can hear some of the press photographers.

48 Hours

Deadly Divorce, Part 1

2193.845

Did you analyze the blood stains on the clothing? Yes. And who do they belong to?

48 Hours

Deadly Divorce, Part 1

2235.967

I believe that he's not guilty of these crimes. You do admit, though, you have your work cut out for you.

48 Hours

Deadly Divorce, Part 1

2340.245

You don't think Darren wrote this?

48 Hours

Deadly Divorce, Part 1

2361.598

What is your client's net worth? As we speak, it's zero. He has no money. Yeah. How is that? I understand that he was worth anywhere from $9 to $12 million. No, he's in bankruptcy. So you're taking this case on pro bono?

48 Hours

Deadly Divorce, Part 1

2422.258

Does she know about the circumstances surrounding her mother's death?

48 Hours

Deadly Divorce, Part 1

590.579

I'm sorry, what does that mean, sexing?

48 Hours

Deadly Divorce, Part 1

669.083

He claimed to be afraid of her.

48 Hours

Deadly Divorce, Part 1

704.16

So he wanted to end the marriage because he was battered.

48 Hours

The Peggy Hettrick Case - Part 1

1513.637

Okay, when you said that, what did your superiors say?

48 Hours

The Peggy Hettrick Case - Part 1

2304.5

Und hast du die Worte Peggy Hetrick gesagt? Oh mein Gott, guck dir das an, wie kann das nicht verbunden sein? Mehrfach. Und er hat gesagt? Keine Antwort.

48 Hours

The Peggy Hettrick Case - Part 1

2463.703

Anybody do that? No. Why not?

48 Hours

The Peggy Hettrick Case - Part 1

917.705

Wie viele verschiedene Länder lebten Sie in?

48 Hours

The Peggy Hettrick Case - Part 1

971.869

Die Polizei fragte Zollner.

48 Hours

Dark Side of the Desert

1015.484

At what point did it begin to dawn on you that they were thinking of you as a suspect?

48 Hours

Dark Side of the Desert

1098.704

You know nothing about anything at all having to do with their disappearance or Jennifer's death?

48 Hours

Dark Side of the Desert

1254.741

They told you specifically you cannot go on the search.

48 Hours

Dark Side of the Desert

1259.963

And you wanted to go on the search. Absolutely. I wanted to go on that search.

48 Hours

Dark Side of the Desert

1426.657

Could any of these things that they're saying about him possibly be so?

48 Hours

Dark Side of the Desert

1480.777

Why would someone who wanted to kidnap your child take your wife's body, you know, and have it end up in the landfill?

48 Hours

Dark Side of the Desert

1928.183

Pornography is going to play a big part in this from the prosecution's standpoint. How do you see that?

48 Hours

Dark Side of the Desert

746.021

What in the world did you think had happened?

48 Hours

Anchors Away

1077.49

Also kam Jennifer herunter. Das selbe Tag. Und hat die Kinder benutzt. Genau.

48 Hours

Anchors Away

1112.022

Yes. To see if you could overtake them?

48 Hours

Anchors Away

1113.884

And what did you think when you saw Tom?

48 Hours

Anchors Away

1240.158

And when was that?

48 Hours

Anchors Away

1362.503

Was macht Alonso mit ihr hier?

48 Hours

Anchors Away

1435.764

Das war der letzte leise Moment zwischen den beiden. Ich habe nie gedacht, dass das so ist.

48 Hours

Anchors Away

1465.062

Für alle ihre Bankkarten? Ja.

48 Hours

Anchors Away

1576.242

This big heavy anchor.

48 Hours

Anchors Away

1579.062

Was the anchor used? Yeah. It was used. Yeah.

48 Hours

Anchors Away

1650.206

You called her after they were dead? Yes. Do you remember what she said? I remember her asking if I was sure. And what did you tell her?

48 Hours

Anchors Away

1664.552

Skyler had a motto. Can you tell me what that was?

48 Hours

Anchors Away

1670.87

And he thought he was going to get away with it because there were no bodies.

48 Hours

Anchors Away

2549.543

Glaubst du, du wirst es immer? Wahrscheinlich, ja.

48 Hours

Anchors Away

370.521

Was it a good life?

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Anchors Away

768.871

In Wahrheit, warst du nur ein Extra auf dem Show?

48 Hours

Anchors Away

771.733

Es war ein Gäste-was. Wie viele Male?

48 Hours

Anchors Away

802.314

Aus einem randomen E-Mail.

48 Hours

Anchors Away

904.486

Was she happy?

48 Hours

Anchors Away

908.187

Tired of the bills? Tired of the bills.

48 Hours

A Deadly Family Secret

2022.678

Did you kill your father?

48 Hours

False Identity

1098.507

Mr. Welsh, why did you fake your own death?

48 Hours

False Identity

1111.734

Do you have anything to say to your ex-wife and your two sons who haven't seen you in the last 15 years?

48 Hours

False Identity

1136.206

I wanted to know who I was.

48 Hours

False Identity

1141.249

I had questions for him.

48 Hours

False Identity

1144.151

Where did he go wrong? For the sake of her children.

48 Hours

False Identity

1340.519

What was it like the moment you walked into that jail and saw him?

48 Hours

False Identity

1344.999

It was a lot like looking into a mirror. We mimicked each other almost. He said, I love you, and I said, take care of yourself. I'm going to go hide.

48 Hours

False Identity

1370.714

When he told you that he loved you, did you believe it?

48 Hours

False Identity

1375.006

I don't know. I wanted to, but I don't know if I can trust him.

48 Hours

False Identity

159.925

Tell me about those early days of your marriage. How would you describe them?

48 Hours

False Identity

1788.191

You're telling me you're not angry at this man?

48 Hours

False Identity

2081.427

How do you go from that to doing what you did?

48 Hours

False Identity

2164.597

Really? Just looked in the newspaper, saw this name, said that sounds good?

48 Hours

False Identity

2170.959

Why Texas?

48 Hours

False Identity

2189.925

What did you think was going to happen to them? How did you think they were going to get by?

48 Hours

False Identity

2206.35

But that's not how things worked out. I'm lucky that I had a lot of books to read and Thank you.

48 Hours

False Identity

2248.015

Thank you. Thank you.

48 Hours

False Identity

2352.432

Thank you.

48 Hours

False Identity

267.307

The last thing I remember is waiting for him to come home at night. And watching the snowfall and just waiting for his car. But Pat Welsh never came back. I imagine that he probably ended up in Iraq or. He was doing something else. Ted Welch was only 10 years old, but he was going to be right back.

48 Hours

False Identity

924.916

I guess that's the question. You all here in this room are willing to forgive him for the deception.

48 Hours

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939.529

Would you accept him back here?

48 Hours

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1019.772

Did you really think that everybody could get along? That you could have a girlfriend and have a wife and everybody would be okay?

48 Hours

Marriage Secrets

1088.999

I'm sure you've looked into what she was like in the days leading up to her death.

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Marriage Secrets

1292.519

How often were there collection agency calls? Regularly. And what did you do?

48 Hours

Marriage Secrets

1349.788

Yes. Had you met this woman before and thought she was just a coworker?

48 Hours

Marriage Secrets

1357.232

And there were no rumors?

48 Hours

Marriage Secrets

1572.286

Suddenly the house isn't for rent anymore.

48 Hours

Marriage Secrets

1576.365

You know the scuttlebutt is, Wesley burnt down the house, couldn't afford it anymore, set it on fire.

48 Hours

Marriage Secrets

1718.359

No. Is there any chance that he's put one over on you? That you've fallen under Wesley's spell?

48 Hours

Marriage Secrets

1755.416

If it's not you, do you want to find who did this?

48 Hours

Marriage Secrets

1760.938

Are you making an effort to do that?

48 Hours

Marriage Secrets

2091.351

Are you prepared if the verdict comes back guilty? Have you thought about that?

48 Hours

Marriage Secrets

2096.755

What do you do?

48 Hours

Marriage Secrets

464.91

And you're confident it's not your fingerprint?

48 Hours

Marriage Secrets

620.088

So I have to ask you, did you kill your wife?

48 Hours

Marriage Secrets

869.519

Was there romance?

48 Hours

Marriage Secrets

872.422

Very little. Was that part of the problem?

48 Hours

Marriage Secrets

888.935

Makes you emotional. Why's that?

48 Hours

Marriage Secrets

912.389

What's that house like?

48 Hours

Marriage Secrets

964.336

Did she tell you that?

48 Hours

Stalking Shadows

1619.85

This was a perfect fit for you, right? You liked the city.

48 Hours

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1691.929

Did Sean Thorson threaten you with bodily harm?

48 Hours

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1772.843

Do you think, given the opportunity, Sean Thorson would have killed you?

48 Hours

Stalking Shadows

1866.052

What do these letters do to you psychologically, emotionally?

48 Hours

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2222.922

She confided in you?

48 Hours

Stalking Shadows

2313.184

What did you want from her? I don't know.

48 Hours

Stalking Shadows

2331.372

And her mistake?

48 Hours

Stalking Shadows

2363.717

In his own twisted way, He wanted you to walk away from your job. And he accomplished that.

48 Hours

Beauty Queen Betrayal

1094.92

I know. What happened?

48 Hours

Beauty Queen Betrayal

2076.553

I know what happened.

48 Hours

Beauty Queen Betrayal

2197.847

The jury has begun deliberations in the murder trial of Kevin Jones.

48 Hours

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2463.219

A suspect in the 2005 murder of Nona Dirksmeyer is in custody tonight at the Pope County Detention Center.

48 Hours

Trained to Kill: The Dog Trainer, the Heiress and the Bodyguard

103.721

What did you think to yourself when you were lying in bed listening to that?

48 Hours

Trained to Kill: The Dog Trainer, the Heiress and the Bodyguard

1484.749

And your brother thought this is the one. After all those years, he married her, and that this was going to be his partner for life.

48 Hours

Trained to Kill: The Dog Trainer, the Heiress and the Bodyguard

824.475

Was your brother an innovator in the dog world?

48 Hours

"Dead Girls Don't Talk"

100.246

You blast out this address, and very quickly you get responses. Yeah. What are those responses?

48 Hours

"Dead Girls Don't Talk"

1179.972

Hilda, what were your final moments with your daughter?

48 Hours

"Dead Girls Don't Talk"

1299.352

How hard is it to prove this narrative when the victims can't even testify on their own behalf?

48 Hours

"Dead Girls Don't Talk"

133.157

So when you heard overdose, you immediately thought drugged.

48 Hours

"Dead Girls Don't Talk"

1703.762

You drink this drink, you start to feel dizzy, I'm sure, confused. What happens next?

48 Hours

"Dead Girls Don't Talk"

1791.267

That's incredible, and that's just based on the people that you have spoken with directly. Yes.

48 Hours

"Dead Girls Don't Talk"

2118.918

For you, what does justice for Christie look like?

48 Hours

"Dead Girls Don't Talk"

2334.431

When you look at photos of Christy and Hilda, what do you see?

48 Hours

"Dead Girls Don't Talk"

2377.314

Fernanda, how do you hope your big sister is remembered?

48 Hours

"Dead Girls Don't Talk"

346.75

You are a doctor. What was going on in your mind at the time?

48 Hours

"Dead Girls Don't Talk"

502.411

In less than 24 hours, your world was turned upside down. Shattered. Yeah.

48 Hours

"Dead Girls Don't Talk"

561.055

Are these drugs that Christy would take willingly?

48 Hours

"Dead Girls Don't Talk"

651.703

How did you process that?

48 Hours

"Dead Girls Don't Talk"

677.196

What's going on in your mind from that detective standpoint when you're about to arrive at a scene?

48 Hours

"Dead Girls Don't Talk"

714.877

And this is where the Uber that Christiane Hilda called that night would have waited. Right out front, yep. 10 minutes between life and death. That's all it takes.

48 Hours

"Dead Girls Don't Talk"

79.301

You're tracking Christie's phone? Yeah. Is this an address that you recognize?

48 Hours

"Dead Girls Don't Talk"

878.003

Thanks, detectives. Yep. But that wasn't where it ended for you?

48 Hours

"Dead Girls Don't Talk"

985.584

How difficult is it to prove a crime took place when the victims were recreationally using drugs?

48 Hours

Crossfire at the Shaughnessys'

1069.373

A woman officer put your mom on the phone, and then your mom told you what happened?

48 Hours

The Perplexing Death of Susann Sills

2377.996

She was a dynamic person. She had hopes and dreams.

48 Hours

The Perplexing Death of Susann Sills

2396.965

It was a very painful thing for me to learn of the role the staircase eventually played in real life.

48 Hours

The Perplexing Death of Susann Sills

536.254

How do you know she got an email?

48 Hours

The Perplexing Death of Susann Sills

540.539

Oh, okay. So Eric told you that she got an email and that it was about something... Something about work.

48 Hours

Facing a Monster 

160.114

When you were first meeting her, was Sean Doyle around at the time? Yes. He was obnoxious. She would argue with him a lot on the phone. And then in January is when this incident happens at her house? Mm-hmm.

48 Hours

Facing a Monster 

2316.202

Guilty? Mm-hmm. What went through your mind when you heard that word?

48 Hours

Facing a Monster 

2323.03

Why does it still affect you?

48 Hours

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2627.571

What do you miss the most about Lori?

48 Hours

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362.918

Demeaning. Think that's why he did it?

48 Hours

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679.52

I know he threatened a lot, but did you ever believe that Sean Doyle would have physically hurt you? Not until that day.

Anatomy of Murder

Unsuspecting (Milana Li)

1158.385

So how do you like Heat your food? How do you store your food?

Anatomy of Murder

My Name Is Gloria (Gloria Pointer)

2480.167

You know you were there. You made a comment. You said, I raped and killed Gloria Pointer. How'd you do it? This isn't something that you can just make up and expect it to go away.

Apple News Today

The allegations that could sink another Trump Cabinet nomination

274.162

And you don't have any concerns about the allegations against him in the New Yorker?

Apple News Today

The allegations that could sink another Trump Cabinet nomination

664.761

Many people passed the suspect, but he appeared to wait for his intended target. I want to be clear. At this time, every indication is that this was a premeditated, preplanned, targeted attack.

Bad Rap: The Case Against Diddy

Invincible

2074.707

His bad boy business empire, with Diddy at the center, is now worth an estimated $345 million.

Bad Rap: The Case Against Diddy

Invincible

2098.838

Some people might think that's a form of megalomania. That you would think that. A form of megalomania. It could be. Is there anything you would not promote?

Bad Rap: The Case Against Diddy

Invincible

2116.107

You know, I don't know, make your dog yap to a rap or something.

Bad Rap: The Case Against Diddy

Invincible

441.335

Because, you know, you know how people think. They'll say, well, you know, you took something.

Bad Rap: The Case Against Diddy

Invincible

456.68

You said that after Biggie's death, you took some time off to reflect.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

1024.552

Und du hast gesagt, eine meiner Lieblingssongs von dir war die, die du vorhin gesagt hast, Keep Your Head Up. Ja. Wie war die Song? Was war die Inspiration hinter dieser Song? Was ist passiert an diesem Tag?

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

104.943

Also es war lustig, weil ich angefangen habe, Videos zu machen, wie Mai 2019. Ja. Und ich war schrecklich. Ich war schrecklich. Natürlich. Und so habe ich es schlussendlich herausgefunden, nachdem ich 150 gemacht habe. Und ich habe nicht gut angefangen, bis ich das gemacht habe.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

1097.018

Also habe ich gesagt, danke. Es klingt so, als ob dir etwas in diesem Moment gekommen ist, als ob diese Song aus dem Ausfall kam.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

1127.469

Eine meiner Lieblingspunkte ist, dass du so offen bist, wie viele Songs du schreibst, bis du die Song hast, die wirklich mit jedem anderen in diesem Hit verbunden ist. In Bezug auf die Verbindung zu dieser Song, wie weißt du das? Du weißt es nicht.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

1201.192

Und danach, die Song, die sich mit vielen Leuten verbunden hat, war Honey, I'm Good.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

122.878

Und jetzt habe ich mich wirklich auf die Leute hinter den Szenen konzentriert, weil ich fühle, dass es so viel ist und viele Leute über es nicht gehen. Und jetzt habe ich etwa 3.500 Videos gemacht. Das ist verrückt.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

1304.172

Bist du derjenige, der mit einer Gitarre anfängt? Mit einer Melodien-Linie, einem Lyrics? Oder ist es einfach so?

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

1332.822

Wenn es darum geht, 100 Songs zu schreiben, denke ich, dass viele Leute Angst vor Verletzungen haben. Sie sind Angst vor Verletzungen. Was ist dein Tipp für jemanden, der einen Traum hat, aber vielleicht auch Angst vor Verletzungen hat? Mache deine Begegnung zu dem, was du tust, und nicht dem, was du nicht tust.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

1415.107

Lass mich das kurz vorbereiten. Also, ähm, ich habe das nicht früher gemacht. Also, mein Ziel ist es, die Hintergrundszenen von Sängern, Songwriters und Produzenten zu zeigen. Und bis jetzt bin ich super glücklich und glücklich genug, mit Leuten wie David Foster zu treffen.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

1444.405

Es ist auf dem nächsten Niveau. Es ist verrückt.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

1462.176

Das war so krass. Und dann ging es weiter und weiter und ich bin so froh, dass ich dich auf die Liste geben konnte. Du bist jemand, von dem ich dich super früh gehört habe. Hör dir deinen Kopf an. Einer meiner liebsten Songs. Du hast noch viele von deinen Songs auf meinem Telefon gespeichert. Es ist wirklich toll, dich in Person zu treffen.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

1481.925

Und also, das erste Video, das ich dir zeigen möchte, ist im Grunde genommen, ich habe ein Video mit Coldplay gemacht. Okay. Und Let's talk about the biggest band of today. I don't know if you know the biggest band today. Diese Musik hat mich in einer Art und Weise verbunden, wie nichts anderes. I used to spend hours learning their songs, playing piano, pretending like I was on stage.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

1529.94

And then I turned 14. While other kids wanted to be NBA players, I wanted to sing on stage with Coldplay. So I made a note. And I said, if this ever happened, I would give it to Coldplay on stage. So what are we gonna do? We're gonna ask Coldplay the scariest question of my entire life. But here's the thing. I'm actually super afraid to ask this question.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

1545.971

But I know if I don't, I would be letting down that young kid who wasn't afraid to fail. You see, this isn't just about singing on stage. Es geht darum, mir und allen anderen zu zeigen, dass Furcht dich nicht stoppen muss. Also warum nicht? Geh schon! Die Musik war eine der Musik, die mir Inspiration gebracht hat und mich dazu inspiriert hat, Kunst zu erschaffen.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

1563.962

Also möchte ich zuerst sagen, vielen Dank für diese Gelegenheit.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

1566.904

Ich hatte diesen Traum. Also vor langer Zeit habe ich eine Note geschrieben und ich habe sie auf ein Stück Papier geschrieben, als ich 14 Jahre alt war. Und ich habe geschrieben, ich werde auf der Bühne mit Coldplay an einem Punkt in meinem Leben singen.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

1577.868

So, this is something that they do on TikTok. How many likes will this video have to get in order to sing on stage with you guys? For like 30 seconds or even 10 seconds.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

1588.513

On average, you can be higher. You can say as many as you want. For you to sing on stage? Yeah. Which song? The Scientist.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

1614.525

Du sollst mich halten. Schön. Als jemand, der auf der Straße performt, jemand, der jetzt schon lange touriert hat, was ist dein Tipp, als jemand, der viel im Chor singt, viel in der Akkapelle in den späteren Jahren, zu gehen, viel in Musiken zu singen, auf der Bühne zu gehen und mit Coldplay zu performen, wenn es mein erstes Mal ist? Wie wenn man auf einem Stadion singt, auf der Bühne zu singen.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

1683.77

Ja, ich auch. Eines der Teile, die ich gerne machen würde, ist, die Hintergrundszenen des Musiksingens und Songwritens in neue, verschiedene Wege zu zeigen. Okay. Und eines der Dinge, die du jahrelang gemacht hast, und ich glaube, das wirklich mit einem Publikum verbunden ist, war dein Street-Performieren, das Busken. Ja.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

169.029

Was ich auch liebe, ist, dass ich viele verschiedene Dinge höre, die du tust. Und ein wirklich wichtiger Aspekt für dich ist auch, dass du sicher bist, dass deine Stimme gehört wird. Und du bist wie ein predominanter Schauspieler deiner eigenen Musik. Oh, ja. Und mein Lieblingsding ist, dass

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

1701.44

Also eines der Dinge, die ich gerne machen würde, ist es, dich im Grunde genommen zu entdecken und auf der Straße raus zu gehen und ein Busken und Performance zu machen, egal wo du dich am liebsten fühlst.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

1746.294

Das wäre wirklich Spaß. Was ich denke, um es so gut wie möglich zu machen, ist, eine IG-Story zu senden. Sie sagen, hey, ich werde in Santa Monica sein.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

1753.236

Also bringen wir alle die Leute, die dich bereits lieben. Alltags bist du entdeckt und dann zeigen wir, dass es du bist. Ich liebe es. Und ich denke, dass deine Geschichte so viel zu Street Performing verbindet. Ich denke, es wäre unglaublich, das zu tun.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

1765.941

Lass uns das machen. Das wäre toll. Und das ist für dich. Vielen Dank, dass du ein Teil davon bist.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

182.466

Hören Sie Ihre Geschichte und wie viele Lieder Sie schreiben, um die Lieder zu bekommen, die Sie lieben und die Ihr Publikum liebt, ist eine große Inspiration für so viele andere Menschen. Eines meiner Lieblingsmöglichkeiten über Sie ist Ihre Geschichte. Oh, danke. Und das ist das eine, was ich heute wirklich fokussieren möchte, weil ich denke, es ist einer der coolsten Aspekte in der Musik.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

205.012

Und ich fühle mich Das zu beobachten, wird viele andere Menschen helfen.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

213.306

Wo fangen wir an? Wahnsinn. Zuerst ist es lustig, weil du und ich etwas ähnliches zusammen haben. Wir haben es. Was ist es? Ich wurde von einem Acapella-Team gefeuert.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

255.333

Denkst du, dass diese Rejection von A Cappella ein Faktor war, um dir zu sagen, weißt du was, ich könnte das machen?

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

317.427

Ich habe viele Kreatorfreunde, die sagen, ein Video kriegt eine Million Views. Das ist großartig. Das nächste Video kriegt 70, dann 50 und dann stoppt man das Content, weil sie es nicht machen, weil sie es lieben.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

408.441

Hundert Prozent. Es ist großartig. Ich bin so froh, dass du Street-Performance mitgebracht hast. Ja. Weil das ein Stück ist, das ich glaube, die Leute, die dich folgen, werden das wissen. Aber viele Leute, die die großen Songs kennen, werden nicht wissen, dass du für vier Jahre Street-Performance gelernt hast. Was hat dich in Street-Performance gebracht?

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

427.633

Nimm mich zurück zu dem Zeitpunkt in deiner Leben.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

569.069

In the first year, would you say that you were confident going out there? You brought your guitar and you were ready to go?

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

596.018

Ich denke also, es kam ein Zeitpunkt, an dem dein Freund... Ja, er hat eine Technikfirma gegründet und da musste ich wirklich arbeiten.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

621.988

Wie lange hat es gedauert, bis du dir sicher geworden bist, da zu singen, vor allem selbst?

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

673.132

Und wie waren die Reaktionen am Anfang, als du zuerst da draußen warst, von den Leuten? Hatten die Leute je für dich aufgehört, bis zu dem zweiten Jahrpunkt?

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

71.163

Danke. Was hat dich dazu gebracht? Oh, das ist lustig. Ich habe als Musikproduzent und Songwriter angefangen. Und eines der lustigen Dinge war, dass ich eine Song für diese Frau in der Schule produziert habe. Und... Ich würde ständig Leute fragen, weil der Song eigentlich gut ging. Ich weiß nicht, wie es gut ging, aber es hat.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

760.202

Okay, also sie müssen sich emotional bewegt fühlen. Du musst etwas für sie tun.

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

766.096

Sprechend von Freunden und sogar Familie, als Leute gefragt haben, was du tust, hast du aktiv gesagt, dass du auf der Straße gehst, auf der Straße performst und so weiter?

Behind The Wall

Andy Grammer: How One Street Performer Became A Star - Behind the Wall (Ep. 18)

783.342

Du musst ein bisschen verrückt sein, um das zu tun. Und ich dachte, das wäre cool. Weil es ist wirklich toll, wenn man Shows hat, wenn Leute für dich zeigen, aber plötzlich gehst du da raus und sagst, gib mir ein bisschen deiner Zeit.

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Und wie du es vorhin gesagt hast, musst du so enttäuschend sein oder ihnen etwas von Wert geben, damit sie stoppen wollen und Teil von etwas sein.

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Und du warst es doch. Ich erinnere mich, dass ich, als jemand, der auf TikTok gearbeitet hat, du stark reingekommen bist. Ich muss dir ehrlich sagen, du warst so gut daran. Und du warst einer der ersten, die aus dieser Welt kamen. Und ich war so, Andy Grammer ist auf TikTok. Was macht dieser Kerl hier? Weil, wer war da?

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Ja. Es war früh. Es war ziemlich früh. Es war wirklich früh. Und was ich gefunden habe, war... Und du hast es getötet.

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Ja, also die Leute waren so, ich sah, dass du diesen Song produziert hast. Was bedeutet das? Und dann habe ich angefangen zu gehen und habe angefangen zu sehen, dass es diese ganze andere Seite gibt, die die Leute nicht wissen über Musik. Natürlich von Musikproduzenten, Songwriter, Audioingenieuren. Und es gibt so viel, was die Leute nicht wissen, dass meine Meinung ist das coolste Ding je.

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Und dir zu sein, war etwas, was dich damals wirklich zerstört hat, weil ich glaube, viele Leute waren auf einer Fassade oder machten diese Dinge. Aber das eine, was ich immer sagen würde, ist, wenn du Videos machst, musst du dich um die gleiche Frage achten. Was werde ich tun, um dem Zuschauer oder dem Publikum oder der Gemeinschaft zu helfen?

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Und ich glaube, das ist etwas, was du sehr früh dorthin gebracht hast. Ich denke, es kommt vom Street-Performieren.

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Kannst du mir eine verrückte Geschichte erzählen, die dir bei Street-Performen passiert ist?

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Und du warst Street-Perfumer für vier Jahre.

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Was hat dich jeden Tag für vier Jahre gehalten und dich auf der Straße gehalten?

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Were there a lot of people that came up with you guys as well that are still a part of the band?

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You started music director in 2015, is that right?

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Which was one of the biggest albums ever. Yeah. Was it a difficult process to go from live performing as bassist to doing music director?

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Being on tour with Bieber and then all of your friends that you hired, are there any like fun stories

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Amazing. I'm really excited to get into everything that you just talked about. But first, I think it's important to go back to the beginning. How did this all start for you when it comes to music being a kid?

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Totally understand. So Purpose Tour music director. You work as music director. And then how long were you music director for Bieber?

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Oh, amazing. That's a lot to take on as well as doing a bunch of other pieces. Then the next piece I see is that you write with Pooh Bear in 2019, Yes Please. Yes. yeah which is a sick song is that uh one of the pieces that brings you back to say hey i'm gonna start writing again because there was like a piece in time where you are kind of doing your own thing what brought you back to that team

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So you come back to the team. Then you get on three more songs with Available, Forever, At Least For Now. How many songs have you and Bieber's team kind of written together by this point, would you say? Around 2020?

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For someone who is as big of an artist as Bieber, getting a placement on one of the songs to fit the vibe and everything like that, is that a difficult process to make happen? We were talking about even earlier how you deciding to make the trip to L.A. or make the move down to L.A. versus being in Atlanta. Is that difficult to...

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Amazing. Let's talk about the song that kind of catapulted you into the spotlight as well as a songwriter and producer, and that would be Peaches. Bam, bam. I would love to hear, because let me tell you, basically one of the big goals I have in creating this is showing the behind the scenes of music, telling the stories that people don't necessarily get to hear. Right.

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So then like... By the way, the synth solo, crazy.

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it sounds like the whole story is it starts off from the Instagram video of Bieber.

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Was this the... Because I remember I saw a video of Bieber in the piano. Was that the one of him singing the actual words of the song? Yeah. Because I saw there were a bunch of people, a bunch of crazy names on that song, like Andrew Watt, Louis Bell. Yep, yep. Like... Another song that kind of reminded me similar of it is Where Are You Now? Yep. And then possibly even Sorry.

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Like, starting off with, like, piano chords that's, like, the actual idea of the song is there and that's produced around it.

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Did they have that, like, a writing session where Bieber just, like, came up with that on his own?

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So their goal wasn't even to make this into a hit song. They just made that. Justin decided, hey, I'm going to record this. They're like, wait, this is so much better than an Instagram video.

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Amazing. Yeah. Technology sounds like it transformed that did. Now, just to be sure here, Bieber sent that to Give Young. Yeah. They weren't in the same room. No. He just responds back with a verse. Yeah. A week later, Daniel Caesar pops on it.

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Was it pretty much like the first people he thought of, that's who got on it? Or were there any other people? No, that was it. That's crazy.

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When you heard that song, did you know it was going to be a smash?

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One of the great things about Peaches, I think, is most people can relate to it because it's a worldwide song. The hook is so smart. What does the song Peaches mean to you?

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This won't be coming out for a while, um, until you have some stuff going on. Is there anything you're like really excited about?

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Amazing. Is there a different process that happens when you write for yourself versus others?

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As someone who kind of has been working as an instrumentalist, working behind the scenes, being a producer and songwriter, has it been difficult to kind of put other things on the back burner to say, hey, this is my time now. I need to focus on myself at this point. What's that transition been like?

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Going even back, starting off as the bassist, working as a music director, then producer-songwriter, now releasing your own music. What is a piece of advice you have for anyone out there that wants to follow a dream or even wants to get into the music industry?

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competitions and everything like on the cello yeah i actually missed the cello i'm glad i said that because i'm gonna go buy one yeah you should i i cello is is an instrument that like one of my favorite songs is secrets and that's such a big part of the song so yeah i want to i want to hear that and more right yeah our next interview you come in i was like 100% we'll make that happen. Yeah.

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As someone who has a hit in the world of the internet age, a lot of people we've talked to got it a lot in the radio side of it. Is there a different thought process when it comes to making songs for more of the internet side of things? Because one of the places that Peaches really popped off was on TikTok. What's your thoughts on TikTok's impact on the music industry?

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The catchiest part. Yeah, yeah. Lizzo, About Damn Time, that's the second verse.

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So, uh, one of the earlier interviews that we did was with Julia Michaels and, um, I, I brought her something in a bag and she named the segment called what's in the bag. And I've been, I've been doing this to all the people we've talked to.

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So I wanted to say thank you so much for doing this. Appreciate it. And congratulations on all the success. Excited to see what's in store for you next.

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So I also got frozen peaches, but I thought that would not be very smart to carry in a bag.

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Well, thank you so much for being on it and excited for the next one where you're going to bring out the cello.

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I'm excited. I'm excited. Well, thanks, Harv. And we'll see you next time on Behind the Wall.

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So you start out with cello, but you also, I honestly feel like you probably play almost every instrument, right?

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Do you gravitate towards one instrument specifically now where you feel most comfortable on?

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When you heard that song, did you know it was going to be a smash? Well, super excited for today specifically because we have the one and only Harf. Let's go. Songwriter, producer, artist, perfect pitch master. Super excited to be able to talk to you because I think your story is really unique and it allows people to see music in a new way.

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Now, a lot of people are incredibly talented musicians, but you have many different sides of you when it comes to music, and one of those sides is singing, songwriting, and production. When did songwriting and production start for you?

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Now you get your first placement with Bangladesh and Lemonade. Yep. How long of a time period was that when you started playing bass? Was the placement bass on Lemonade?

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Were there songs in between that helped you become more confident enough to produce that song and be in the room in that sense? Was it a lot of work to get to that point?

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How many beats and songs did you say you made until you had Lemonade?

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you just you never know like one the last one that i make may be the next peaches or the next whatever you know what i'm saying you also do other stuff as well you're you're in marching band you do other pieces like that yeah i was actually the drum major in high school too that's crazy yeah at what point does the next part of the story become after lemonade

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And I think people are not only going to relate to it, but they're going to find it fascinating. So first of all, thank you so much for being a part of this.

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Within a year, you write with him as well. What was the process like to go from an instrumentalist to songwriter and producer? Was that a hard transition to make?

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For anyone out there who may not know who you are, what are some of the songs that they would know you from?

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As someone who's worked with an artist for so long, such as Bieber, there had to have been a connection right away.

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What was it like working with him back then versus now?

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So you are his bassist in 2010. You work your way to become his producer and songwriter in 2011 on the Christmas album. And then next up is music director, right?

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Fa La La happens and more and more songs are created at that point. Then you become music director. What does music director mean?

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So when she was killed in a wealthy neighborhood... She had been shot twice in the head and in the back, behind the heart.

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It's Mental Health Awareness Month. And on a recent episode of The One You Feed, Josh Radner from How I Met Your Mother joins us to talk about fame, self-acceptance, aging, and finding peace in discomfort.

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To hear this and more on healing, identity, and the wisdom of slowing down, open your free iHeart Radio app, search one you feed, and listen now.

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What is the thing you hate so much about the toilet?

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So when she was killed in a wealthy neighborhood... She had been shot twice in the head and in the back behind the heart.

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She had been shot twice in the head and in the back.

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It's Mental Health Awareness Month. And on a recent episode of The One You Feed, Josh Radner from How I Met Your Mother joins us to talk about fame, self-acceptance, aging, and finding peace in discomfort.

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To hear this and more on healing, identity, and the wisdom of slowing down, open your free iHeartRadio app, search one you feed, and listen now. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.

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She had been shot twice in the head and in the back.

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So let's get back into this less happy story of medicine.

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Sounds like medicine to me, bro. I love it when my doctor gives me a fucking coupon for blood factor. Great.

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Just gassing each other up for four minutes.

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That's incredible. Oh, man, it is so funny. Yeah.

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Where was this blood coming from?

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That makes you sound good. Sounds like you're a doctor.

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Have you talked to your bishop or the church about anything? No. No? How come?

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What was your initial reaction when you heard about the Hamas attack on October 7th?

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The night of the rally, I believe someone in the crowd said something very anti-Jewish, not just anti-Israeli, but anti-Jewish.

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We still haven't got that hemp sponsorship, but we'll keep trying.

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Yeah. It does seem like things are changing a lot. And one of the things that we've seen, like we spoke about before, like not just in Germany, but in Canada was that like,

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Yeah, we are back. And before I talk about USAID, I do want to talk about something else that has been advertised along with whatever products and services support this show. And that is the gold card. So the gold card, if you're not familiar, is something that Trump floated this week to replace the EB-5 investor visa. Trump suggested that the gold card, it would require a $5 million investment.

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Well, investment, I think it's just a charge, right? You're just giving the money to the United States government. And in return, you will receive a green card plus privileges. And it will be not a green, but a gold card. So that's great. The EB-5 visa, if you're not familiar, required you, since 2022, it's been $1,050,000 investment and the creation of 10 jobs. So it had some kind of like...

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trickle-down economics is not a real thing. It's a lie that they tell you. But it had some idea that these rich people would create jobs in the US, people who are less wealthy. The gold card seems to not have that. You just have to be rich, right? So that's an interesting change to the immigration system. The other thing I want to talk about today is

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It's the United States Agency for International Development, better known as USAID. It's been a target of like the anti-work right for some time because they fundamentally don't understand what Joseph Nye would have called soft power, right? The power to persuade, the power to influence outcomes around the world with things other than tanks and bombs.

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I have been diverted by returning to my topic. The agency has been massively impacted by Doge and Trump administration cuts, right? The Trump administration suspended all foreign aid in January via executive order on the 20th of January in order to assess if it was, quote, serving US interests.

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The State Department then issued guidance that seemed to go beyond the executive order and cut nearly basically all USAID expenses. On the 13th of this month, that's February if you're listening later, a judge issued a temporary restraining order. This TRO didn't really stop them from doing what they were doing because it told them to continue with existing contracts.

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And what the State Department claims that it's doing is implementing clauses that are already in the contract. So the contracts will have some kind of kill clause, right? and that they claim that they're implementing that. So they think they've found a fun workaround. Rather than talking extensively about court battles, I want to talk about what this means.

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These are cuts made by the richest man in the world that have had a direct, tangible, and devastating impact on the poorest people on the planet. In Sudan, 80% of emergency kitchens have been closed. That means that close to 2 million people will go without food. Local groups who organize the kitchens are running out of money.

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The way this works is that even when Rubio issued a communication talking about continuing food aid, It's unclear exactly what that means, because in this case and in other cases, USAID is sending them money in order to provision themselves locally, as opposed to sending them food as an in-kind donation, right? Whatever he communicated, these people are not getting food.

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And as a result, the people who run these mutual aid kitchens, it's a mutual aid coalition of Sudan, are facing the horrible decision of having to turn people away or deciding who to feed, which is pretty bad. On the border between Thailand and Myanmar, a place where Robert and I have been to report, I've heard that people are having babies right now outside locked clinics.

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And life support machines have been removed for people who were relying on those life support machines, obviously.

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Yeah. And I'm sure many, many more people that have died.

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Yeah, I will try in not too long to be there and report on that. But it's pretty devastating right now that Robert and I have met the people who run some of these clinics and they are some of the most incredible people doing amazing work. And yeah, they relied on USAID funding, as lots of other places do, and that's not happening now.

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The State Department has exempted, quote, life-saving humanitarian assistance programs from the cuts, but no one really knows what that means, right? The order reads, quote, life-saving humanitarian assistance applies to core life-saving medicine,

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medical services, food, shelter, and subsistence assistance, as well as supplies and reasonable administrative costs as necessary to deliver such assistance. As I mentioned before, the Mutual Aid Sudan Coalition was receiving financial assistance to help it provision itself, which is much better than the U.S.,

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going through all the infrastructure spending of being able to deliver that aid itself or through USAID contractors. Other contractors implementing partners of USAID are still owed money for work that they completed before January, before the stop work order stopped payment to them. For work to begin again on any of these contracts, they need the contract officer to sign off on it.

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And it's a little unclear exactly how many of these contract officers are still employed at USAID because of the federal employment cuts. So essentially, USAID has stopped all over the world. In addition to this, in this country, $490 million worth of

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of US-grown food, which is in the USAID pipeline to go to people who very desperately needed food, is currently at risk of spoilage, according to USAID. So it's not just that people are starving, it's that we are allowing food to go bad here while people starve in other places. which is pretty bleak. I will just really briefly here plug the Mutual Aid Sudan Coalition.

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If you'd like to help, you can direct to them directly and it's mutualaidsudan.org if you'd like to do that. It'll be in the show notes too if you're driving or whatever.

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It's a frontal assault on the separation of powers is what he's proposed, right? They don't have the numbers yet.

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Yeah, it is very concerning. I don't know what more to say because... It's mad. Like, we're watching a coup happen on the timeline while everyone just continues to go shopping and stuff. Like, it's pretty weird.

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Yeah, and just to clarify that to people, Most of these spaces are pretty full, right? These are pretty crowded places. So this will mean women sharing rooms with young Marines, right? This will mean them sharing non-stalled bathrooms, right? with young sailors and Marines, right? This will force them into very confined spaces together on board ships.

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Like this isn't like, uh, some kind of sort of minor inconvenience or whatever like this, this will put these people at a demonstrable risk for assault, for bullying, which is a serious thing and an issue in lots of militaries, including the U S one, but like And many of these people, I should add, like have had, they're like post-surgery, right?

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And not that it matters hugely, but they're people who might pass as women or men and they're now forced to live according to their gender assigned at birth. Pretty fucked up.

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Yeah. I would say also, like, if you are...

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soldier sailor airman air person marine whatever and like these these executive orders are affecting you you can email us uh cool zone tips at proton.me i know trans folks tend to serve at a higher rate than than cisgender folks um so this is a good number of people who will be affected by this and like for whatever it's worth if you want to talk to us you can reach out to us

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So that means that travel cover for... Abortion-related medical care, reproductive health care is no longer there.

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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That's good.

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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I guess good luck. I can't think of a worse situation to be in than Elon Musk being one of your legal parents. So, like, for the sake of that child, I hope that she succeeds.

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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Multiple meme coins actually were started. Well done for the people cashing in on the guy shooting himself in the head and then bleeding out for 30 minutes on stream. You are vampires. I don't know. Not the cool kind. No, yeah. Not the cool kind. The evil kind. Vultures. Vultures can be cool as well, I guess.

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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Hi everyone, and welcome to It Could Happen Here, a podcast about things falling apart and the people putting them back together. And today, Garrison and I are joined by Hayley and Dan. Both Hayley and Dan are gender affirming care providers in the Northeast, and they both work at federally qualified health centers. Welcome to the show, guys. Thank you so much.

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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Okay, so for people who are not familiar, maybe they've been fortunate enough to have really good healthcare their whole life, or fortunate enough to not live in the United States and have this bizarre web of healthcare provision. Can you explain what a federally qualified healthcare center is?

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. I guess good is a relative. Yeah. I've relied on federally qualified health care center for a while and it was great. They were very nice. Actually, my prescriptions cost a lot less now than they do with my very expensive iHeart insurance.

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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I guess people who are not in the United States, do you want to go and give us a one minute speed run of what Medicaid is, Medicare?

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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Cool. Yeah, it's a great system. Let's talk about how this is funded then. Like you said, the US doesn't have like a single-payer healthcare system. So how are these healthcare centers funded right now? Or maybe how were they funded like six weeks ago?

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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Yeah, it's more of a like a health care experience that I'm used to as someone from Europe, like going to one of these centers and like the American one where you get a referral and then get it approved and blah, blah, blah.

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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Yeah, that makes sense. So can you explain Ryan White funding? Like, where does that come from? Why is it called Ryan White?

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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Yeah. So a number of these things, right, gender affirming care, perhaps care for people with HIV or preventing people from getting HIV through pre-exposure prophylaxis, like you said, like these are things that have been like at the center of the culture war for the current government, right? Like they're there like...

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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the things that they point to as, you know, whatever, they're sort of like in Paxton's, in Paxton's construction of fascism, he talks about moral decline, right? And this is their moral decline, that this is what they use when they're constructing their kind of, we will save you narrative. What does that mean for funding?

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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And like, what does that mean more importantly for your patients, for people who come to you for these different types of care?

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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Yeah, that's tough. Can you briefly explain, like maybe lay out a timeline? Because we talked about executive orders there. We talked about a TRO. Like there was a large number of executive orders, right, in the last three weeks. So like maybe people missed them. Can you explain the pertinent executive orders and then what's a tentative restraining order?

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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Yeah, we should pivot to advertisements here. So I'm going to do that and then we'll be right back. Okay, we are back. So you talked about these grants being turned off or not coming. What does that mean? Does that mean people don't get care? Does that mean providers don't get paid? Does that mean they can't access their prescriptions?

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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What does it look like if I'm trying to access care through one of your clinics?

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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Yeah. Let's talk about what that means then. Like you said, it's difficult to get any response from administration, right? In terms of what you can do, in terms of what you can't do. How are staff and providers organizing to make sure that they're able to keep providing for their patients?

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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Yeah. I think maybe we should explain like the inherent risks, like legally, and then the distinction between those two hormones legally, right? Like if people are unaware. Yeah.

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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Right, like there's a built-in legal consequence for people who are trying to manufacture that or who are trying to obtain it like outside of the sort of prescription system. Not that there aren't other probably legal threats coming down the pipeline, I guess.

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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Yes, and that is also worth stating because, yes, if you go to your average gym... Oh, yeah, you can walk across the border to Tijuana and see how gas stations have the prices, like unleaded, premium... Yeah, you can get testosterone prices like displayed in the same fashion.

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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Yes, they do. It's a lot easier for them right now. So let's talk about like what this organizing looks like on the ground, right? Like if someone's working, maybe they're not in a FQHC, right? Maybe they're working in academic health center. Maybe they're working, you know, in one of the many other places where you can access gender affirming care in this country.

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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And they are feeling like alone or they're scared and they're not receiving any affirmation or help from their management. And they don't know who they can talk to among their colleagues. Like, how are people connecting? Like, what are people talking about?

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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And like, how can people who are, because, you know, the healthcare system is vast in this country because it duplicates itself because it's the nature of American privatized healthcare. Like, how can people who want to continue providing care for patients do that? How do they organize their colleagues? How do they contact people who are already organizing?

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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Like, let's talk through the nuts and bolts of it.

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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Yeah, yeah. I think that's a very good point. I read a book recently about how the longshoremen in San Francisco stopped weapons going to Chile or El Salvador by striking and refusing to load weapons onto ships. And like, that's a union energy we could use right now.

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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Yeah, I think people would be well advised to like, I will say that they'd be well advised to check with federal and local law because like some state legal landscapes can be very different. Right. I want to end with like, people are probably afraid of accessing care, right? Like people are probably afraid of going to see their providers.

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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Like understandably, like you said before, like especially kids or people under 18 are like right in the center of care. The president of the United States called out a friend of mine personally by name recently. She's a trans athlete. And like, they're really coming after people. I understand that people are afraid.

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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Like, what should they know if they're concerned about their hormone supply or they're on puberty blockers right now? Like, if people are listening, what would you, maybe they don't know where their provider stands, you know?

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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Yeah, yeah. I think that's really good. I think that was really great, guys. Thank you so much for your time and for your words for people. Is there anything else you want to share? Or perhaps if people want to support your efforts somehow or support people's access to care, there's an organization you could direct them to. Or maybe like a way people can reach out to you.

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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I know a lot of people, there are people in my family who are healthcare providers who have substantially changed their outlook on the world and politics by how terribly their trans patients have been treated. So like, you know, like some of us have been organizing for a minute. Some of us have been organizing for like literally a minute. And like, how do those people access these networks?

Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 171

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Like how can people who are not in health care support you and what you're doing and reach out?

Bone Valley

Jeremy | Chapter 5 - Like a Little Kid

2619.231

So you know that there's no possibility that Jeremy is really going to ever get out of prison.

Bone Valley

Jeremy | Chapter 5 - Like a Little Kid

2624.393

Yeah. I mean, what do you envision the rest of his life could look like?

Bone Valley

Jeremy | Chapter 5 - Like a Little Kid

267.301

Do you remember the first letter, what you said to him?

Bone Valley

Jeremy | Chapter 5 - Like a Little Kid

305.148

Do you remember the first letter that Jeremy sent to you?

Bongino Report Early Edition with Evita

Blasphemy: Hollywood Casts Queer Female Jesus (Ep.143)

929.275

And so did you do IVF so that you could get data on your embryos?

Bongino Report Early Edition with Evita

Blasphemy: Hollywood Casts Queer Female Jesus (Ep.143)

947.794

So I see these embryos have health scores ranging from like negative 0.96 to like 1.9.

Bongino Report Early Edition with Evita

The FBI's Worst Nightmare CONFIRMED (Ep.145)

792.113

You said yesterday, made a lot of news, bad-mouthing Trump, not a good idea for Zelensky. What's the thought process here?

Candace

ENOUGH! It’s Time For Jordan Peterson To Clean His Own Room | Candace Ep 181

2486.481

No, you're not the crier of the group. No, you are not. I'm going to tell you something right now. You are officially an astronaut. Thank you so much. How do you feel?

Candace

ENOUGH! It’s Time For Jordan Peterson To Clean His Own Room | Candace Ep 181

2514.369

We had these incredible shots of Daisy watching you. It'll make me cry. The rocket's going up, and she was so proud. She just kept saying, Mommy, Mommy. And I know you'll feel the same way when you watch it. And you brought a real-life Daisy up.

Candace

ENOUGH! It’s Time For Jordan Peterson To Clean His Own Room | Candace Ep 181

2529.863

It was important for you, not only because it's your daughter's name, but why else was that important to bring her up?

Candace

ENOUGH! It’s Time For Jordan Peterson To Clean His Own Room | Candace Ep 181

851.848

So the thing you go back to then is alcohol for the most part.

Candace

ENOUGH! It’s Time For Jordan Peterson To Clean His Own Room | Candace Ep 181

868.303

So you're way up with cocaine more than anything else you can think of.

Candace

Saturday Night Lively: What Were They Thinking? | Candace Ep 148

1153.45

And he's Team Taylor. Yes, and he's Team Taylor. He's got a little nick on his knuckle there. No, no.

Candace

Saturday Night Lively: What Were They Thinking? | Candace Ep 148

1164.561

He's trained in martial arts. He's real funny.

Candace

Saturday Night Lively: What Were They Thinking? | Candace Ep 148

1856.338

Candace Owens has been on this like you wouldn't believe she's she's a tigress. And but and that Steph with the deets. On TikTok. I mean, there's so many people that are fascinated here, but they're justice warriors. You know what I mean? They see an injustice. And now with metadata and all this stuff, you can track so much of this stuff.

Candace

Saturday Night Lively: What Were They Thinking? | Candace Ep 148

1878.296

I mean, people are doing, you know, you've got free paralegals out there, man.

Candace

Saturday Night Lively: What Were They Thinking? | Candace Ep 148

482.759

What did you think when you saw, you know, Ryan, you know, make light of the situation, I guess, makes try to find some humor in all this stuff.

Candace

Saturday Night Lively: What Were They Thinking? | Candace Ep 148

893.789

So there was mediation like there was going to be there was an idea of mediation and both sides, your side and Blake's shot it down. No one wanted. No. Were you open to mediating this? And the other side said no, because I don't understand why this this could this could and should end. But it has to be them. Right.

Candace

BREAKING NEWS: Justin Bieber Is Exposing Hollywood. | Candace Ep 127

473.41

Wow. Lean into me again. You smell amazing. How old are you? Uh, thank you. How old are you? I'm 16. I'll be 17 in, like, two weeks. I don't ever remember smelling that good at 16. Like, I was, that was bad. Wow, look at your eyes.

Candace

BREAKING NEWS: Justin Bieber Is Exposing Hollywood. | Candace Ep 127

527.111

Have your mom given you the sex talk yet? I mean, like, I really, like, I really don't want to have that conversation with my mother. Yeah. Like, I've kind of had it with my father. You want to hear? Oh, really? See, my parents never gave me the sex talk. Okay.

Candace

Blake Lively Is Time's Most Influential | Katy Perry Goes To Space | Candace Ep 178

1027.361

I am standing by with two women who need no introduction. And Chris, I have to start with you. What is it like to be here? And what brought you all the way out here to this launch?

Candace

UPDATE! Taylor Swift Goes Full Dragon Against Blake Lively | Candace Ep 144

419.38

Congratulations. We do. First of all, the broach, everything is on point.

Candace

UPDATE! Taylor Swift Goes Full Dragon Against Blake Lively | Candace Ep 144

427.165

Oh, my God. And you look amazing. I'm going to bring you a little closer because I'm starting to get snagged.

Candace

UPDATE! Taylor Swift Goes Full Dragon Against Blake Lively | Candace Ep 144

431.107

Okay. You have made it happen. I mean, this was no easy feat. It is a beloved book from the beginning until right now at the end. How does it feel to take that all in?

Candace

UPDATE! Taylor Swift Goes Full Dragon Against Blake Lively | Candace Ep 144

486.039

I mean, it takes a village, like you said. Did I see, I mean, this is a family affair for you as well. Did I see your dad as well here?

Candace

Taylor Swift Booed. I Blame Ryan Reynolds. | Candace Ep 145

1482.854

I think the Reynolds family likes you a lot.

Candace

Taylor Swift Booed. I Blame Ryan Reynolds. | Candace Ep 145

2151.187

Hospitals across Gaza are full of malnutrition cases, doctors say, needing special care that simply does not exist. Eunice is nine years old. His mother takes off his T-shirt to show the painful evidence of malnutrition and extreme dehydration. She says he was healthy until they were displaced multiple times, from northern Gaza to Rafah, to a beach area where she says they don't even have a tent.

Candace

Taylor Swift Booed. I Blame Ryan Reynolds. | Candace Ep 145

2180.067

Food was no longer available, his mother says. There were bad living conditions and polluted water. I'm losing my son in front of my eyes. More than 50,000 children require treatment for acute malnutrition, according to the UN agency for Palestinian refugees, UNRWA.

Candace

Uh Oh, Ryan Reynolds! Hugh Jackman WILL Be Deposed. | Candace Ep 160

647.803

Appearing on stage as Peter Allen a decade ago was pivotal in Hugh's professional career. I still call her But ever since, it's raised speculation that Jackman is gay and his marriage to Deb a sham. Now, I read that it was only recently that you've said that these rumours about your sexuality are starting to get to you. Oh, please.

Candace

Uh Oh, Ryan Reynolds! Hugh Jackman WILL Be Deposed. | Candace Ep 160

696.06

That's right, so you as an actor, you can't be able to sing, dance and be straight.

Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend

The Conan and Jordan Show – Travel Memories

1103.047

You mentioned to me that Argentina wasn't your first choice.

Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend

The Conan and Jordan Show – Travel Memories

1302.148

Oh my God, everybody can see on camera.

Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend

The Conan and Jordan Show – Travel Memories

2230.892

Are you okay?

Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend

The Conan and Jordan Show – Travel Memories

495.68

You happen to be in the Argentina travelogue, and that was an episode I really loved. You've been on so many journeys with him. How has the relationship evolved from those early remotes to what we see in this episode?

Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend

The Conan and Jordan Show – Travel Memories

605.608

What's one thing about the relationship with Conan in these episodes that fans might be surprised to learn that doesn't come across on camera? Because I'm sure there was more B-roll that we haven't seen as yet.

Consider This from NPR

Is Trump testing limits or trying to eliminate them?

132.386

22 state attorney generals have said that this is unconstitutional. A federal judge has just agreed with their argument. What's the administration's argument for doing away with birthright citizenship.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder

Ep. 38 | The Most Hated Woman In America Is Now On TikTok... | Casey Anthony

1885.463

You learned in December of 2008 that the remains of your granddaughter were found. What effect did that have on you?

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder

Ep. 38 | The Most Hated Woman In America Is Now On TikTok... | Casey Anthony

1903.332

Up to that moment, had you held out the hope that Kaylee would be found alive?

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder

Ep. 38 | The Most Hated Woman In America Is Now On TikTok... | Casey Anthony

2272.41

To your understanding, how did she die?

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder

Ep. 38 | The Most Hated Woman In America Is Now On TikTok... | Casey Anthony

2275.371

You don't know. Something about drowning, possibly.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder

Ep. 38 | The Most Hated Woman In America Is Now On TikTok... | Casey Anthony

2281.293

Uh-huh. So your parents had her?

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder

Ep. 38 | The Most Hated Woman In America Is Now On TikTok... | Casey Anthony

2284.275

And next... Next thing you know, she's missing, right? How did it play?

Criminal

Dexter Wade

1275.796

Did you say Lyme disease is a highly likely militarily engineered bioweapon?

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

1498.565

Oh, you got some packages out here.

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

1542.355

Oh my God, you guys look amazingly alike.

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

1583.038

Murder, I think. And then 88 was Jean.

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

1615.913

You said you're at the Chester Fair like previously.

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

1620.057

That's where she was coming from.

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

1627.17

So maybe you're at the fair with that woman. That would be crazy.

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

1633.877

When your dad wasn't with you at the... Oh, he didn't go to that stuff.

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

1667.014

Yeah, walk me through that. Like, what do you remember your dad saying?

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

1766.795

For the Moors.

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

1921.489

Bright red hair?

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

2053.297

That was going to be my next question.

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

2069.308

Mm-hmm. So... In the timeframe of, like, the time of death?

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

2095.283

I think that's what the lead detective remembers as well.

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

2104.484

Apparently, Linda's husband called around 11, and Linda said that your father was there. She was talking to him. Yeah. So we've got 11, we've got 12, maybe 1, and then again around 3 o'clock, Steve's driving home and he passes your father on the road. So there's three, four different times. Oh, he passed my father on the road? Yeah, yeah, like kind of near the house.

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

2130.394

So I'm just trying to determine what is the right one, you know?

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

2206.056

I mean, did your dad think that maybe, like, the husband was involved in some way?

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

2332.62

Do you know what your dad might have been driving around that era?

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

2373.548

What about personal vehicles? Like, is there any... Would he ever drive a personal vehicle on a drive?

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

2434.82

I'm trying to think, oh, a blue van, too, was seen? Is there any possibility he could have been driving that?

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

2457.849

No blue van. And then the last one, I think, was either a Jeep Cherokee or, like, a Wagoneer.

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

2493.105

I think they have something.

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

2500.952

I don't know. I don't know if they do.

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

2510.676

For any of the cases?

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

2513.778

So, I mean, the speculation is that whoever did it, like, had some kind of, like, attachment to...

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

2537.013

What did you do with him after he died?

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

2549.258

And brought it all the way down south?

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

2567.154

Yeah, he's had an interesting path.

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

2584.72

How do you even do that? I don't know.

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

2592.326

I mean, did it affect you in your life after? Like, what happened?

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

2646.912

You just went one by one and you made something?

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

2661.176

For what, though?

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

2805.812

Yeah, that's good.

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

2808.193

I think you started to say, like, you had a different experience kind of growing up.

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

2986.823

You know the history on the house? Like, anything happened there?

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

3660.987

I mean, the way that Mike LeClair is remembering it is that, like, just when I was about to bring in that guy, like, I got transferred, and the other investigators didn't want to listen to me. They thought it was Steve Moore.

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

3814.491

Thank you, Heidi. I appreciate it. Heidi Lee Martin March 23rd, 1968 to May 20th, 1984. Look at the rabbit on her grave.

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

3833.157

The rabbit is so cute. It says her name, and then at the bottom it says, Daughter of Barry and Linda, Isaiah 35, 1, 6 through 9.

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

3846.383

Yeah, I want to look it up.

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

3895.9

Do you want to say anything to Heidi?

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

915.0

Does the name Larry Alley mean anything to you?

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

985.851

Not in New Hampshire or Vermont.

Dark Valley

Chapter 18 | Down the Alley

991.515

Correct, yeah. But there's DNA in at least a couple cases, and he has living children.

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

0.189

Was this after you went to prison? What was after when I went to prison? You had a million dollars in crypto? No, that was before. Well, I want to get into all that. Yeah, it's honestly a lot. Okay, well, this is good. I'm glad that your story is strange. Well, it's made for a movie.

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

114.447

From breach exposures to info stealing malware infections, knowing what criminals know about you and your business is the first step to setting things right. Resetting stolen passwords and addressing the enterprise access points that have been stolen by malware helps you protect your business from ransomware, account takeovers, and online fraud.

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

1758.547

Wow, crazy. How do you feel after that?

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

2173.825

Okay.

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

2282.239

Who was one of the first ones you targeted?

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

2293.001

What the hell? This would be a strong no for me. I would be out. You can't attack the head of U.S.

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

2529.343

Okay, so tell me how you got into John Brennan's account.

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

26.862

Yeah.

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

267.498

So as a teenager, what was your relationship with the government? Were you politically active? Was your dad politically active?

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

2903.814

What did you say to him?

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

2944.009

Well, I mean, just a random phone call is not going to be that big of a deal. But did you say, I've also got access... It was his personal cell phone number.

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

3362.291

So what happened to the police department? Now we got your motive. What did you do? Oh, well, we...

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

3509.021

Yeah, let's talk about that then. So how'd you get those several million?

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

3533.618

So John Holdren, I have written down here that someone tried to swat him.

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

3547.302

So the idea was posing as him to call the police from his phone.

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

3555.324

And then saying there's a violent incident here and then them coming to his house.

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

3591.616

There was some sort of current.

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

3595.179

There was an undercurrent of people online at the time that you were mixed up in that was also very involved in this sort of thing. Talking about Anonymous, for example. Anonymous was always calling out injustices of the world and threatening this and that because people were just being evil. And it felt like being part of that was the winning side.

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

3622.18

And I don't know if that exists today.

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

3625.762

I think today we've kind of lost that pulse.

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

3691.459

Well, let's talk about that. So how do you think the, uh, How did they catch you?

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

4045.885

What happened? Did they knock on the door? Tell me about that incident. No, dude. They definitely don't knock on the door.

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

4130.681

They pulled you out of that room and someone else went in there to start taking your computer. I mean, they can't unplug it and take it. They know they've got to collect it.

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

4258.475

Screenshots that you had taken, Bandicam videos.

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

4264.158

But how did they get the videos if you never posted them?

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

4362.315

Was prison rock bottom for you?

Darknet Diaries

139: D3f4ult

53.278

So I just want to get a verbal confirmation for... I don't know, legal reasons or whatever. It's okay to record this call to use on the podcast Darknet Diaries. Is that okay with you?

Darknet Diaries

138: The Mimics of Punjab

1121.601

You got to probably appreciate your cousin for helping you out. If you get in jail, he's going to send you $1,200. Yes, exactly.

Dateline NBC

The Haunted House Confession

1773.396

So she goes everywhere with her purse, but she just didn't have her purse today.

Dateline NBC

The Haunted House Confession

1786.658

And normally, boyfriends are like going to be the number one suspect a lot of times. And also a lot of times when we do these, we do find another suspect. So when we do find the real killer... Then, you know, we could say, oh, we covered that base. They walked around the property, looking into outbuildings.

Dateline NBC

The Haunted House Confession

1967.238

Charlie Barnett. And this is where you live too? Yes, sir.

Dateline NBC

The Haunted House Confession

2013.731

Is that what time you have to be at work?

Dateline NBC

The Haunted House Confession

2020.234

You're supposed to go to work at 9.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

1082.84

What do you do with this complaint?

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

1091.691

What do you learn about Michael and Natalie's business?

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

1188.947

What did you find when you started to look into their lifestyle?

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

1350.634

Knowing that so many family and friends of the Cochrans and people you knew were involved in this investment, did that kind of make it just even easier to say yes?

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

1778.301

Oh my gosh. Are you starting to get worried now about your finances that...

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2524.465

I don't think you can control the state police.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2718.2

So nothing, nothing that shed any light on what might have happened to Michael? Correct.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

3045.571

Was there a tissue test you could do to see if there was any evidence in that?

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

3791.977

The prosecutors say he wasn't able to call for help because he was already unconscious when she stabbed him with the needle.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

3859.445

The prosecution says the walls were closing in, that the jig was up, and he finally, Michael finally realized, and they were going to go have this meeting, and then everything was going to just collapse.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

4484.321

But in this particular case, you felt... She should.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

4786.129

You felt like he was with you in that moment.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

508.71

So fun. So you're building memories together as families.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

614.924

That's thoughtful.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

686.899

She tells you that she's very sick.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

753.676

Like whether he lives or dies?

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

786.858

Yeah, we should all be so lucky to have friends like you who care this much. Jennifer, that must have been so hard for you to watch Chris. It's very hard. Knowing how close they were.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

951.745

Did the community really support her during this difficult time? I mean, that's what you do in Beckley.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

1097.955

John Yelnik was literally about to get divorced.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

1103.939

Hours.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

1126.793

John shares his son, JJ, with his estranged wife, Michelle.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

1231.402

Why did you want someone to be there?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

1366.607

They had to be. I don't know who else it could have been.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

1370.889

So find out who belongs to the footprints and you'll probably find your killer.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

1384.732

Your officers are told that there was some commotion or some noise at 1.30 in the morning.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

1413.005

The neighbor across the street is hearing someone say, I'll never loan you money again.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

1435.152

Did John ever talk to you about Melissa Youse?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

1455.797

$15,000?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

1459.479

But rumors start up that John and Melissa are having a fling.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

1494.892

That must have really bothered you, the fact that that was the rumor around town.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

1505.806

Was that something that you had to look at closely?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

1509.689

How do you go about that? What's your strategy? I was bold. So you just straight up asked her, were you having an affair with John Yelnik?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

1715.649

Had it gotten out around town at school that your dad was being looked at?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

1751.547

Your mom had the medium psychic sisters come over to help out?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

1846.929

What's happening in that house as you're all going through the house with these psychic sisters?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

1857.655

I guess the question really is, at this point, were you becoming a little bit desperate or frustrated so maybe they could shed some light on it?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

1876.486

So you were kind of placating them, that like, here, I'll do this for you.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

2031.414

Did he confide in you about his relationship?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

2131.448

Even though she had one.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

217.747

What are you thinking now?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

2212.341

So you and your boyfriend were with John the weekend that he is accused of choking his son. Yeah. Did you see anything that would suggest that that could be true?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

2318.448

Did he have a theory about why this was happening?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

236.185

So that must have been a real shock to the system, because you didn't know yet that a man's been stabbed to death right here.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

2362.72

Maggie, you talk about John almost being a hostage.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

248.495

Are you thinking right away that those footprints likely belonged to the killer?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

2505.42

Did she not send a flower? Did you talk to her? Did she give a reason? Nothing. Did his son come?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

2559.513

People might wonder how a boy that young could come up with stories like that if they weren't true. Why would he...

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

2642.831

That day in chambers, Did John's son actually say, you know what, it didn't happen?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

27.93

You're in charge of the investigation. You really cast a wide net. I did. Days turned into weeks. Weeks turned into months. No arrest.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

2734.08

So this was irreversible damage, it must have felt like. Yes. Because how do you turn that ship around?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

2781.006

That must have felt good in this ongoing saga.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

2865.906

That's one of the craziest things I've heard in this job.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

2952.051

So, is everyone kind of on the same page? The friends about who could have done this?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

3082.089

So in a normal world, after this murder happened, Kevin Foley potentially could have been called to aid in the investigation.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

3171.746

And yet they told you. It's not like you see on TV. Right. That's the line. Many, many times. It does seem outrageous that this person is not being looked at closer.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

3282.358

Did you quickly start to have an uneasy feeling about the thoroughness of this investigation?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

3382.169

Is there that kind of code of silence with some of them, like protect the brother at all costs kind of thing?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

3555.474

So you asked the D.A. what his relationship was with Trooper Foley.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

3599.395

You didn't need to be a detective to figure that out or find that photo.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

3680.7

The vigil was to keep investigating? Was that the idea? To keep it out there?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

3772.719

It's pretty admirable that she wasn't going to give up on justice for her cousin.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

3787.794

How did you feel leaving that meeting?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

3842.791

Why were Michelle and Kevin not taken down to the police department and questioned? like other people were.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

4006.77

Wasn't it true that the DNA really could have matched thousands of people? In the Blairsville, Pittsburgh area?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

4064.266

Take us to the moment when you find out that Kevin Foley has been arrested.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

4088.233

Had it been used before in court or was this the first time?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

4168.737

Dennis, you're particularly bothered by a slash on his hand.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

4341.258

189 billion to one. What exactly does that mean?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

442.537

Your mom had the medium psychic sisters come over to help out?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

451.96

Did you quickly start to have an uneasy feeling about the thoroughness of this investigation?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

46.301

What are you thinking? I mean, he could be our prime suspect and I'm being told not to interview him.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

574.117

Was he kind of old school, given his choice in TV, and was he kind of old-fashioned?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

638.14

And he really liked working with kids. He loved working with kids. Working on kids' teeth.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

653.544

Was he a good dentist?

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

734.195

Michelle stepped up to the plate and helped John care for his mom.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

772.696

I'm sure he thought she was worth it.

Dateline NBC

The Premonition

855.183

How excited was John?

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

1417.19

You believe then that, based on the video, that he followed them across these railroad ties?

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

564.731

Where were they ultimately found?

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

1002.432

Then you stayed at your dad's in Kennewick?

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

1027.471

Did Desiree know that you were going to Paige's? I don't know, honestly. it's not something you're disgust with her no the red flags are just piling up on this guy at this point it is there's more to this relationship than what he's telling us was it uh just a platonic friendship or were you did you have a sexual relationship with page you know i shouldn't go there because it's kind of rude but uh

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

1068.031

Okay, so it was Desiree and Paige who had the sexual relationship, but not you and Paige? We all did. Sometimes you and Paige, too. Honestly, we all did. Okay.

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

1194.18

You were wearing those shoes? Yes.

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

1216.64

So we can about wrap it up here.

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

1567.517

Was there ever any jealousy or anger over the relationship?

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

1626.014

I understand that you're a friend of Scott and Desiree.

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

1634.241

How long did you talk with her?

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

1643.988

Can you just kind of tell me in your own words about your relationship with them? How long you've known them?

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

1669.352

What was the nature of your relationship with Scott? He's my best friend. He helped me sober up.

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

1713.433

So you were involved in a sexual relationship with Scott and Desiree knew about it?

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

1788.059

When was the last time that you saw Scott? Last Saturday, two nights ago.

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

1806.874

Your story seems very, it's almost too clean. It seems like rehearsed and perhaps coached from Scott because your stories match too well.

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

1880.75

Is there anything that you would like to add to this statement? I hope to catch him.

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

2388.252

During the time that you've known Desiree and Scott, have you ever known them to have problems with anyone else? Do they have any other enemies or people that don't like them?

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

2423.654

So what do you mean by violent tendencies?

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

2431.679

And you said that he... Hates Scott. And us.

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

2859.549

Well, I really appreciate you coming forward with this information.

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

2879.874

You guys dated for a short time? Right, very, very briefly.

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

2947.66

Let me just make sure I understand. He believed that, well, you were pregnant. At that time, you thought it was Scott's baby. He believed it was Scott's baby. He thought that Desiree was going to make problems for the two of you. And so he decided the best way to fix that problem was to eliminate her so that you could be happy. So that we could move forward, yes.

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

3115.194

Marty said it was a 9mm. Did he say what kind of, what brand?

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

3180.137

If you initiated another conversation with him, do you think he would talk to you about it more? I'm sure he would.

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

3618.383

relationship with Desiree and Paige's relationship with Desiree. Were you aware of that whole love triangle that was going on?

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

3627.347

So I understand that Paige and Desiree had a falling out.

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

3635.971

Did you ever hear Paige or Scott talk about wanting to hurt Desiree or wanting Desiree gone or wanting her out of the picture?

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

3708.378

Have you ever told Paige that you would take care of anyone for her or anyone that makes her mad and you'd take them out for you?

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

3727.298

And they said that you were suspended from work for having gun parts at work. Can you tell me about that? What kind of gun parts are we talking about?

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

3739.006

A gun barrel?

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

3817.322

Did you ever offer to kill Desiree Sunford for Paige? No, I haven't. I've never offered to kill anyone for anything. It's not in my nature. My difficulty for you is that Paige is saying that you are the one who shot and killed Desiree Sinford. She said that you confessed that to her. Help us figure out where you got that barrel, okay?

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

3851.591

Because Paige has put you smack in the middle of a murder investigation.

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

767.938

Do I have your permission to keep recording? Absolutely.

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

773.041

Are you going to keep talking to me now about what happened out at your house? Of course.

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

844.386

You stayed at your dad's in Kennewick?

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

850.552

What's the friend's name?

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

919.451

Well, I'm just thinking, you're a big guy, so if anyone's going to be willing to go charging in the house and make sure their wife's okay, it would seem to me that it would be you.

Dateline NBC

Deadly Entanglement

939.732

What did you think you might see if you went inside?

Dateline NBC

Return to the Lake

2175.088

How do you feel today? How are your feelings today?

Dateline NBC

Return to the Lake

480.164

How do you feel today about it?

Dateline NBC

Lori Vallow Daybell: The Jailhouse Interview

250.697

What happened to Tammy, Chad?

Dateline NBC

Lori Vallow Daybell: The Jailhouse Interview

3570.594

Did you do something to your children? Are your children still alive? Are you guys innocent of any crimes? Have you committed any crimes?

Dateline NBC

Lori Vallow Daybell: The Jailhouse Interview

3589.164

Welcome back, Lori. Where are your kids?

Dateline NBC

Good & Evil

1197.954

Hunting?

Dateline NBC

Good & Evil

1213.29

Oh boy. What would they call these girls?

Dateline NBC

Good & Evil

1218.395

Cats?

Dateline NBC

Good & Evil

1401.185

He didn't have to talk to you.

Dateline NBC

Good & Evil

1418.644

Food. Here is our chips.

Dateline NBC

Good & Evil

1609.803

And they're just over there somewhere, you know?

Dateline NBC

Good & Evil

1616.67

What's that like?

Dateline NBC

Good & Evil

1878.559

Oh, man, because what are you missing then?

Dateline NBC

Good & Evil

2091.052

But no, no, I mean, are you three? What do you mean? That's what little kids say to their parents. You let me do a bad thing. It's your fault.

Dateline NBC

Good & Evil

2119.622

to participate in whatever way you participated, to get whatever thrill you... What was the thrill? What was it?

Dateline NBC

Good & Evil

2128.449

Well, if there's no thrill, why'd you do it?

Dateline NBC

Good & Evil

2345.826

To you, personally.

Dateline NBC

Good & Evil

30.038

They don't work together. Serial killers are loners. Very rare.

Dateline NBC

Good & Evil

733.564

But wait a minute, you talked to her every day.

Dateline NBC

Good & Evil

740.966

No, nothing. What does it feel like as a mother to hear that?

Fresh Air

Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

1847.421

Does the idea of listening to political news freak you out? Well, don't sweat it. The NPR Politics Podcast makes politics a breeze. Every episode will break down the day's headlines into totally normal language and make sure that you walk away understanding what the day's news might mean for you.

Fresh Air

Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

1864.797

Take a deep breath and give politics another chance with the NPR Politics Podcast, available wherever you get your podcasts.

Fresh Air

Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

2406.451

You want to follow what's happening in Washington, D.C., but you don't want to be scrolling your phone all day. I'm Scott Detrow, and NPR has a podcast that can help. It's called Trump's Terms. Stories about big changes the 47th president is pursuing on his own terms. They're short, they're focused episodes that tell you calmly, factually, what is happening and what isn't.

Fresh Air

Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

2427.516

Listen to Trump's Terms from NPR.

Fresh Air

Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

824.053

What makes you believe that people have changed the way they think?

Fresh Air

Trump's Foray Into Cryptocurrency

2445.417

You wrote for Playboy for a while. I mean, in your book you say that Hugh Hefner was really a terrific editor, and I think you were surprised at that.

Fresh Air

Trump's Foray Into Cryptocurrency

2532.93

Let's talk about some of the presidents who you've cartooned and who are featured in your book. You said that Kennedy's face changed so much when he was in office. I remember.

Fresh Air

Trump's Foray Into Cryptocurrency

2572.967

What about Johnson? Was he easy to do?

Fresh Air

Trump's Foray Into Cryptocurrency

2715.603

How did you recognize Jerry Ford in him?

Fresh Air

Trump's Foray Into Cryptocurrency

2741.349

I suppose we should get back to Nixon.

Fresh Air

Trump's Foray Into Cryptocurrency

2749.872

Is it fun, if that's the right word, to have someone like Nixon in the White House for you as a cartoonist?

Fresh Air

Trump's Foray Into Cryptocurrency

2773.65

Well, let's skip ahead to Reagan. Because of his Hollywood background, can you use that in your cartoons?

Fresh Air

Trump's Foray Into Cryptocurrency

2877.319

Do you think he really believes that, or do you think he's a good enough actor to make us believe that he believes it?

Fresh Air

Remembering David Lynch

2845.046

Do you mean like a... A presence?

Fresh Air

Remembering David Lynch

2856.91

I'm not sure I want to.

Fresh Air

Remembering David Lynch

2863.038

At first I just sensed it, and then things moved. Moved? Yes. What things? A lot of things. Jesus Christ. I saw it. You saw it? You saw things move? I saw the aftermath. And there's a feeling I get, and sometimes it's really, really strong.

Fresh Air

Remembering David Lynch

2880.088

Athosagoraphobia.

Fresh Air

Remembering David Lynch

2884.455

It's the fear of being forgotten or ignored, and I can feel it. It's here, in the house.

Fresh Air

Remembering David Lynch

689.153

Henry, I asked you if you and Mary had sexual intercourse.

Fresh Air

Remembering David Lynch

729.872

There's a baby. It's at the hospital. Mom! And you're the father. That's impossible. There's still not sure it is a baby. It's premature, but there's a baby.

Fresh Air

'SNL' Turns 50: Aykroyd, Franken, Zweibel & Lovitz

1589.289

I think it's a preoccupation that a lot of Jewish people have trying to figure out who's Jewish and who isn't.

Fresh Air

'SNL' Turns 50: Aykroyd, Franken, Zweibel & Lovitz

1697.58

Al Franken, thanks a lot for talking with us.

Global News Podcast

Zelensky says Trump 'living in disinformation space' created by Russia

1602.592

And the reason it's so many, I mean, forgive my naivety here, is that because they're all following each other?

Global News Podcast

Zelensky says Trump 'living in disinformation space' created by Russia

1644.637

Ja, und die Wälder, glaube ich, werden da ziemlich verteilt. Vielleicht ist das empfehlenswert, in Bezug auf ein Ort, um zu hangen.

Global News Podcast

Zelensky says Trump 'living in disinformation space' created by Russia

1696.271

Und nur das zu beobachten, warum sie nicht geholfen werden können, nicht zurückgebracht werden können, ist das nur eine Größe?

Global News Podcast

Zelensky says Trump 'living in disinformation space' created by Russia

460.114

I mentioned your book right at the beginning. You write something in that book that might be relevant now. You write about Donald Trump's obsession almost with Vladimir Putin. There's an incident, I think, after the Skripal poisoning, where there's a headline and he tells you to give that to Putin. Tell us about that. Tell us about Trump and Putin.

Global News Podcast

Zelensky says Trump 'living in disinformation space' created by Russia

589.603

Aber denken Sie, denken Sie, dass Keith Kellogg, der gerade in Kiew gekommen ist, denken Sie, dass Marco Rubio, der Staatssekretär, er sagt ihm diese Dinge, denken Sie?

Global News Podcast

Zelensky says Trump 'living in disinformation space' created by Russia

624.267

Aber das ist wirklich wichtig. Sie glauben das und wissen es und werden es weiter tun und haben eine Einfluss auf Trump, glaube ich.

Global News Podcast

Talks between Israel and Hamas continue in Qatar

709.883

The police, the Navy intercepted you?

Global News Podcast

Talks between Israel and Hamas continue in Qatar

715.689

They left you just adrift in the sea?

Global News Podcast

Talks between Israel and Hamas continue in Qatar

768.456

They wanted to drive you to the desert and leave you.

Global News Podcast

Myanmar remembers earthquake dead with a minute's silence

916.789

So this is the video of the room where the pager exploded. This is my finger on the desk. And there's a lot of blood on the floor.

Global News Podcast

Myanmar remembers earthquake dead with a minute's silence

933.891

So this is a picture of you in the hospital. So your entire face is covered with bandages and also your torso. When you look at these pictures, how do you feel? Very good. Why?

Global News Podcast

Trump 'very angry' with Putin over Ukraine

1941.314

You can have me now. You can marry me. You love me.

Global News Podcast

Trump 'very angry' with Putin over Ukraine

389.915

And just tell us more about the significance of Benjamin Netanyahu's comments on Hamas and the military pressure on them.

Global News Podcast

Myanmar earthquake deaths surpass 1600

1020.759

Ja, und wir sprechen über das, weil es neue Regeln gibt, über die Verfügbarkeit dieser Art von Junkfood in Schulen. Also erzähl uns über diese Initiative und ob du denkst, dass es einen Unterschied machen wird.

Global News Podcast

Myanmar earthquake deaths surpass 1600

1592.963

And the basic idea is they've never found a girlfriend and they blame the world for that.

Global News Podcast

Myanmar earthquake deaths surpass 1600

1673.618

So do you think this is one of those things that's happening because of the Internet? People like this have always existed, but they've been isolated and now they're not. They're part of a group.

Global News Podcast

Myanmar earthquake deaths surpass 1600

1761.955

Gibt es Leute, die in den Zellen sind, die davon ausgehen?

Global News Podcast

Myanmar earthquake deaths surpass 1600

307.154

Aber Präsident Trump hat gesagt, er will helfen. Und nochmals wurde USAID in Myanmar ausgemantelt. Ich glaube, das war sehr recently. Wie groß ist das Problem?

Global News Podcast

Israel delays scheduled release of hundreds of Palestinian prisoners

570.674

Maybe not all, but I think that the primary reason, if we try to find reasons in Trump's policy, should be around China. Because Trump has always stated that to contain China...

Global News Podcast

Israel delays scheduled release of hundreds of Palestinian prisoners

619.995

Let's just sort of for the sake of argument say you're right. It's basically his main concern is China. Do you think this policy of isolation will help the United States assert itself vis-a-vis China?

Global News Podcast

Israel delays scheduled release of hundreds of Palestinian prisoners

667.037

You're living in Switzerland. You obviously get the European perspective as well. The European Union has never had a unified foreign policy, really. Do you think it will now need to get one, or does it not need one and can continue just thinking about trade and not assert itself internationally?

Global News Podcast

Israel delays scheduled release of hundreds of Palestinian prisoners

722.487

Well, I mean, is that quite fair? I mean, the European Union may not have had such a strategy, but nor did the United States, did it? I mean, you know, they were pretty much in lockstep in allowing Ukraine to defend itself, but not to inflict a defeat on Russia.

Global News Podcast

US launches wave of air strikes on Yemen's Houthis

204.898

So what reaction do you expect from Iran? And how does this strike affect relationships between the U.S. and Iran?

Global News Podcast

US launches wave of air strikes on Yemen's Houthis

235.066

The group's attacks against ships in the Red Sea has been going on for some time now. How does the Trump approach differ from President Biden's approach before?

Global News Podcast

US launches wave of air strikes on Yemen's Houthis

273.919

You're an expert on the politics of this region. Is there an alternative approach that the US could have taken that could potentially be more effective than these airstrikes?

Global News Podcast

Diplomacy gathers pace over war in Ukraine

747.912

And would you say that they now control the whole of Bukavu or is there maybe still some resistance from government troops?

Global News Podcast

Diplomacy gathers pace over war in Ukraine

772.976

Were people pleased to see them? I mean, we've heard cheering by some residents.

Global News Podcast

Diplomacy gathers pace over war in Ukraine

799.245

So you say that there was looting before the rebels arrived, as people thought they were coming into the city. And is that still going on, the looting, the vandalism?

Global News Podcast

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So how would you describe the mood now in Bukavu?

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As well as government troops, there were troops from Burundi helping to defend Bukavu. Have those Burundian troops gone away now?

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Betrayals. Do you mean by that deserters? Soldiers who ran away?

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Who are these bandits you speak about?

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Can you assure this audience, that Ukrainians will be at the table and Europeans will be at the table?

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I can hear the smile on your face, Scott. Now you are able to physically touch things, people, just what that means to you. Talk us through shaking hands with the scientist, Lisa.

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The Israeli documentation says that you were arrested for supporting terrorism. Do you know what that might refer to?

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Have you supported terrorism or is there anything you think this could have said or written that might have been interpreted that way?

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Let's talk a bit about the circumstances in which you were held. What was your detention like?

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How would you describe more generally the conditions in which you were held?

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Can I put you what the Israeli Defence Forces have told us in a statement, not specific to your case, because obviously we haven't identified you to them, but talking more generally about the conditions. They say mistreatment of detainees during their detention is against the law and the IDF's orders and is therefore strictly prohibited.

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The IDF rejects allegations of systemic abuse of detainees, including through violence or torture. Specific complaints regarding inappropriate behaviour by detention staff or inadequate conditions are referred to the relevant authorities for investigation, examination and are handled accordingly.

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In certain cases, members of the detention staff have been dismissed for not behaving as expected and in accordance with the facility's procedures. Did you complain?

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Putin 'ready' to discuss Ukraine war with Trump

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Have you changed your view in any way over the last 15, 16 months since October the 7th of the Hamas attacks?

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Do you feel at all that maybe what Hamas did on October the 7th in its attacks, in the killings, in the sexual abuse, in the kidnappings and detention of Israelis, do you feel in any way that explains what happened in Gaza subsequently?

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Right, can you just explain to me, what do you mean the killings were different?

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Putin 'ready' to discuss Ukraine war with Trump

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Right, so you're saying the killings as reported and the footage that appeared on social media, you're saying that isn't correct?

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Putin 'ready' to discuss Ukraine war with Trump

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No kids were killed. I'm sorry, that is not correct. The United Nations has confirmed that children did die in the 7th of October attacks by Hamas, as did adults.

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Who's told you that no children died?

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Large numbers, and that has also been reported by the United Nations.

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You're still relatively young, one day having a family of your own. Could you see a situation in which you or your children were able to live in peace with Israel, with Israelis, side by side?

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What can you explain to us in layman's terms about how this all works? It sounds wondrous.

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Tell us about his life, his upbringing in the Soviet Union.

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Erdogan condemns Turkey protests as dozens arrested

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Particularly, he took issue with the way the government had talked about this case in its court filings, and he described their language as intemperate and disrespectful. He also really questioned the government lawyers in terms of whether or not they were being straight with him.

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He said to them, he told his law clerks that their best assets were credibility and reputation, and that was directed at the government lawyers. That was clearly his view that they weren't being straight with him.

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And then on the subject of this hearing, the substantive subject, which is President Trump's use of something called the Alien Enemies Act to deport these alleged members of a Venezuelan gang last weekend. He said the policy implications of the use of that act, which is incredibly rarely used, only in wartime, were, as he put it, incredibly problematic, concerning and troublesome.

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So you can really see which this way this judge is going. And of course, Donald Trump has already been incredibly vocal about this judge.

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Erdogan condemns Turkey protests as dozens arrested

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Earlier this week, he said he was a radical left lunatic and he called for him to be impeached, which, in other words, is the removal of a judge, the only means of removing a federal judge like this.

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That drew an extraordinary intervention from the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, John Roberts, who doesn't say much publicly three times in 20 years, who said that this was no way to deal with judicial decisions that you didn't agree with. The appeals process is what that's for. Donald Trump has repeated these attacks on this judge.

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Erdogan condemns Turkey protests as dozens arrested

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And this is becoming, this case is becoming, as well as the rights and wrongs of who these people are and the basis in which they were deported, this is becoming the symbol of the battle between Donald Trump, who believes he should be able to get his way, and a judiciary, which is another branch of government in this country and is part of the system of checks and balances that the Republic of the United States and its constitution is based upon.

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They're not pulling back. In fact, they've evoked the AEA Act again this afternoon to arrest another individual. So they're not pulling back at all. And the political implications of this are quite interesting, because once you start you know, messing with the immigration status of large numbers of people. And bear in mind, this is what Donald Trump said he would do.

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He wanted to deport millions more than it had ever been done before. So he's not doing something he didn't say he would do.

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But once you start doing that, I think you do have to wonder politically when it starts touching the lives of so many people, aunts, uncles, brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, whether that increased support that he got, particularly among Hispanics, whether that will continue.

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Yes. So we've got scale, scope, and Libby, we've also got an angry tone. So we used to kind of disagree a bit better. I think it's broadly agreed. In your career, we now go into silos. We sort of think the same thing, broadly speaking, get very cross with people with other views.

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Israel checking Hamas claims that new body handed to Red Cross is Shiri Bibas

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Libby, there are lots of things coming together here and one of them perhaps is this sense of anxiety and anger. The algorithms are deliberately driven to make me feel anxious and angry.

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Well, you've linked it together because Oliver's newsletter is about this feeling we have of living through history. So we're grappling to put names on eras. We're knowing that the plates are shifting. So finally, Oliver, what worked for you? What's the simplest tip?

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Israel checking Hamas claims that new body handed to Red Cross is Shiri Bibas

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So you think if Zelensky speaks to Trump, he might be able to persuade him to change his mind on these things?

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So what sort of reaction has there been to these special measures for Brits?

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Specifically, what are the red lines that you believe need to be respected for the Kingdom to resume any normalization talks with Israel?

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It's not enough to survive, you've got to live.

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Just Harry Styles, I think.

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If this trend line continues, though, it's pointing at a very scary future.

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President Trump's planned tariffs on steel and aluminium imports widely condemned

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Do you think that some kind of global regulator for AI is either necessary or desirable?

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And that's a coalition of the willing. When you say sustainable development of AI, what do you mean? You don't mean sustainable in an environmental sense, do you? Yes, I do. You mean that and for the public good. What does sustainable AI mean then?

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And when you say, I mean, you make it sound simple, providing the gene that's lacking, what do you actually do? Where does the material come from, and how do you transfer it?

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And what kind of a difference has it made? So we heard there from Jace's dad, he's able to recognise objects a few metres away now and couldn't see at all before. So, I mean, this is a really dramatic difference.

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And you've done it here. This is a first in the world, is it, here at Moorfields and UCL?

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To what extent do you think you can now get it out to the outside world?

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They Tortured Him for Years. Now They Rule Syria.

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— In a matter of days, you have taken major cities. What's changed? How are you able to do this now?

How About Tomorrow?

DHH Talks Apple, Linux, and Running Servers

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Yeah, Adam gets comments about that with his face. Like we get comments on our videos all the time where they're like, that brown guy looks real, but that other guy looks AI.

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It should be because AI people look perfect, you know, so I think you should take it as a compliment.

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You learn a lot about how stuff works.

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Yeah, it's what I used to.

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Yeah, the 16-inch, right?

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Yeah, it starts to feel bad when you see all that stuff piling up in your closet.

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Yeah, that transition is painful, but like you said, you can get to a better place on the other side. And I think there's a lot of technical details, but I think what it comes down to me is, you know, I sit at my desk and there's this thing sitting here and my whole life is coming through it. Like it's what helps me provide for my family. It connects me to the whole world, everything.

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And knowing how that thing works, like having deep customization of it and like feeling that harmony with it, like it's just good for your soul, like beyond any of the technical details. And kind of when you get there, it's hard to explain to other people, but you really feel a lot more connected with this really important thing that's, you know, sitting on your desk every day.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, I think beyond the fear that you described that people have, I actually think there's another dimension too. There's almost like a pride. I think there's like this narrow definition of productivity where they're like, if I have to learn something, That's not productive. And they kind of have this very narrow path of like, I'm someone that loves being productive. I'm all about business.

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That means I value these things. But a lot of this stuff, like you said, when you go and understand these underlying things, that does make you more productive in ways that are really hard to explain. You get advantages in other places. So yeah, I think for me, it's more like there's a weird pride with not knowing this stuff. I think that's like... hard to shake people up.

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DHH Talks Apple, Linux, and Running Servers

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But I think the reason we wanted to have you on here was you've been talking a lot more about Linux on the desktop, which I've been a lifelong Linux on desktop person. It's been like 12 years, I think, so far. But yeah, we just want to hear about... I guess, what got you into that? Is this a new thing for you? What's the story behind all this?

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Yeah, the point about the tools working, like the cloud tools, like also all those things being retained, that's a good one. So I work on infrastructure as code stuff and all of our tooling was developed for deploying cloud services, right? So there's good ideas there, like declaratively defining config, like applying that. And we realized the other day,

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DHH Talks Apple, Linux, and Running Servers

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we we can just point all the same stuff to like a docker daemon running on a machine and it all works exactly the same so all the great benefits that we kind of invented in the cloud uh you can just use that same model uh anywhere so yeah it's quite a different experience and i also posted the other day i was remembering

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the first my first company i actually launched it off my laptop like it was i even kind of it was like a it was wi-fi it was like a wi-fi laptop right and this was like in 2010 uh eventually we moved that to servers in my parents basement like literally in my parents basement and we sold the company at that point and i remember like the first thing they did they were like yeah we need you guys to move that off of there it's probably not secure but i actually did build and sell a company that

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We had a dog, you know.

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Love it. Yeah. It was dusty down there. Those servers are still there, too. I could probably still use them. But yeah, like, you know, I did build and sell a company that way. It's a lot better these days to do something like that, though.

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I mean, that resonates a lot with me. The work that we do is... Some of these resellers you're talking about, sometimes they do come up with cool ways to deploy stuff or they come with stuff that we wouldn't have thought of. And what we do is we take it and we just make it open source so that people can use it wherever they need to. So...

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DHH Talks Apple, Linux, and Running Servers

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There's like a it's a little antagonistic, but there's also like a like a harmony to it as well. Yeah, I think all capitalism, the idea of capitalism is there's no permanence. If you have permanence, it doesn't work. You need things to get destroyed. Yes. Occasionally. Yes. And you can't be a capitalist if you don't believe in that.

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Yeah. So the one thing I will say I kind of disagree a little bit is I think if you are going to use a cloud, if you're going to use one of the public clouds,

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if you try to use it in a way where you're just trying to rent servers you're gonna have a horrible experience like it's way too expensive to do that if your approach is uh i'm renting servers i'm gonna run my own software just don't use the cloud at all just go to like you said that's stuff that you guys are using um go directly to data centers that offer renting the hardware directly you can have a much better experience

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DHH Talks Apple, Linux, and Running Servers

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If you are going to use a cloud, you might as well, like, just commit to something, like, commit to using it properly. And then, yeah, you can use the services, high-level services. They're more expensive, but at least you get the benefit. I think it's this middle ground where you, like, try to use a cloud in this agnostic way. Like, that's just never going to work out at all.

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So whatever model clicks for you, like... If you like console servers, just go buy them directly. It's probably at least 10x cheaper, if not more.

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I actually wouldn't count both of those because I guess what I'm talking. So those are like just shitty repackaging of RDS. Stuff that you can just run directly, right?

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Yeah, the granularity.

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where like that that's fixable yeah yeah so i i think where we can agree on is uh like i'm still gonna like i use the cloud heavily like clicks for me um but what i don't like is the people that are like quote unquote on that side don't know how to do the other thing so it's just like i can't really trust your opinion even though you're like on this side because

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you're doing it out of not knowing the other side. Like I've always had a home lab that I managed, uh, would run whatever, like I would use to expand my old, like Kubernetes with nomad, like all the different orchestration stuff. Um, so I've seen how that stuff has progressed and I, I enjoy it.

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Like I said, just like with my, with my desktop, it's, it's really good when you like curate, that's a garden almost, um, running all like all the services that power my family stuff. Um, So I have a sense of that. So when I choose stuff, when I'm choosing the cloud, I'm choosing it with like awareness of what I'm trading off and what I'm balancing.

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Yeah, I agree with that.

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So I have a quick question for you. So this is a thought I had the other day because I feel a lot of the same things you're talking about where I'm like, people these days don't even know how to X. Yes, I am. And you remember when we were young, people would say that to us. So... Like, are we just doomed to repeat this? Is this actually going to change? Is it actually different this time?

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Sometimes these big data centers, there's only like there's only like two people that are there like on call. Yeah, it's not even like a whole team or anything.

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You guys have equal amounts of gray in your beard. I'm the one that's still all black.

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Like in a museum.

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Yeah, I mean, it's just like your transition to Linux. It was painful. You didn't know that it could be better, but eventually you kind of got there.

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So one last thing I have to plug this because you mentioned you like to ease. You're like blown away by like how crazy to get. Have you seen what we've done with our coffee shop? I have not. So we built a coffee shop that's served entirely over SSH. So if you do SSH terminal dot shop, that's awesome. You get like a full coffee buying. You can literally buy coffee and it shows up at your house.

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I don't drink coffee either, but I sell it.

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uh but it was fun because so i love it adam worked on a lot of the like the front end for it but it was cool because it's a very constrained ui you can't have like different font sizes you can only do like colors and stuff but the constraints kind of breed like a lot of cool stuff and build yeah constraints are the best there's like amazing tui tools that i've also been going deeper and i've built a

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I love it. Yeah, it's wild. Like it's better UX than a lot of the more powerful, you know, environments that we have UI in.

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There we go. Everyone's going to be running their own servers and we're only going to be serving up 2Es over SSH. That's the future. Yeah. All right.

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It was funny. Appreciate it. All right.

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And all the historical data you have. It's like impossible to switch. All the data was embedded with it.

How I Invest with David Weisburd

E140: Hamilton Lane Co-CEO on the $950 Billion AUA Business

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It makes sense why retail investors would want to diversify and own more in private assets. What's a little bit harder to understand is why somebody like a Hamilton Lane, you have today $950 billion in AUM and AUA assets under advisement. Why do you care about the retail market? Why even spend time on the retail market?

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So let's imagine, let's fast forward to 2030 and retail is now in the institutional market. Does it look simply like you open up your Fidelity account or your Goldman Sachs private wealth account and you see a tab for private and then public assets? And how does that affect the end retail client?

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What key roadblocks are keeping this trend from happening quicker? What are the roadblocks and how could they be accelerated?

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RIAs and wirehouses play a critical role in the ecosystem. How does that partnership work and what needs to happen there in order to accelerate this trend?

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What is the driving force behind why more retail investors are starting to invest like institutional investors?

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Are RIAs incentivized to push private markets more than public markets or vice versa? Do they have incentive to do one or the other?

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Step back. How did you become the co-CEO of Hamilton Lane?

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What are the advantages and disadvantages of being in Philadelphia versus say in New York City? Thank you for listening. To join our community and to make sure you do not miss any future episodes, please click the follow button above to subscribe.

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Did you underappreciate when you started at the beginning of your career that ended up being really important and really led to your success in your career?

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E140: Hamilton Lane Co-CEO on the $950 Billion AUA Business

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What compounds within Hamilton Lane and what do you have to start from zero month over month?

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E140: Hamilton Lane Co-CEO on the $950 Billion AUA Business

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What is Hamilton Lane's plans when you guys reach a trillion dollars, AUM and AUA?

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What would you like our audience to know about you, about Hamilton Lane or anything else you'd like to share?

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Well, Eric, I appreciate the friendship. Appreciate you jumping on the podcast. Look forward to sitting down in Philadelphia, New York City very soon. Enjoyed the conversation. Thanks so much. Thanks for listening. If you enjoyed this episode, please share with a friend. This helps us grow and also provides the best feedback when we review the episode's analytics. Thank you for your support.

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E140: Hamilton Lane Co-CEO on the $950 Billion AUA Business

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Performance is intuitive. Private assets outperform public assets, at least half for the last 40, 50 years. why are private assets inherently more diversified than public assets?

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Today, you have the Magnificent Seven accounting for anywhere from 20% to 30% of the entire market cap based on how it's trading that day. In addition to your point, it seems that companies that are going public are a certain type of business that may not be reflective of the overall economy.

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So you might have entire sectors, for example, crypto up until the recent election, most crypto companies couldn't even go public. So you had this...

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E140: Hamilton Lane Co-CEO on the $950 Billion AUA Business

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It makes sense why retail investors would want to diversify and own more in private assets. What's a little bit harder to understand is why somebody like a Hamilton Lane, you have today $950 billion in AUM and AUA assets under advisement. Why do you care about the retail market? Why even spend time on the retail markets? Managing a venture capital firm is complex.

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E140: Hamilton Lane Co-CEO on the $950 Billion AUA Business

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Let's assume that the market size for retail is tens of trillions or hundred trillions of dollars. How does Hamilton Lane attack such a fragmented market?

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So when you attack the retail market, is this more like a push where you're advertising and you're educating? Is it more like a pull coming from wire houses or RIAs?

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E140: Hamilton Lane Co-CEO on the $950 Billion AUA Business

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Last time we chatted, you mentioned that the 60-40 portfolio is a fallacy. Why did you say that?

How I Invest with David Weisburd

E140: Hamilton Lane Co-CEO on the $950 Billion AUA Business

823.976

Your philosophy is that the retail investor is overly fixated on liquidity. Why is that?

How I Invest with David Weisburd

E140: Hamilton Lane Co-CEO on the $950 Billion AUA Business

927.736

Liquidity could not only be something that's not bad. It could actually be something that's good. You're shopping and you buy a bunch of junk food in your home. You could be very disciplined and not eat it. Or the better solution is just not to buy that junk food at all.

How I Invest with David Weisburd

E140: Hamilton Lane Co-CEO on the $950 Billion AUA Business

947.985

You recently announced that you're tokenizing Hamilton Lane funds. Why are you tokenizing?

Infamous

Murder at Lululemon | Part 1

1380.528

If I could just get your name? Brittany.

Infamous

Murder at Lululemon | Part 1

1683.83

It's not your fault. I know this is very difficult for you. You're doing a great job. You really are.

Infamous

Encore: The Rise and Fall of Girls Gone Wild | Part 4

1152.408

I think that's enough. I don't think we need to hear it anymore.

Infamous

Murder at Lululemon | Part 3

529.257

Had you been told that like Brittany was suspected of stealing stuff?

Infamous

Encore: Dubai's Missing Princesses I Part 1

0.828

So it's really just you hanging out with your mates then?

Infamous

Encore: Dubai's Missing Princesses I Part 1

119.656

How many handbikes do you have? I don't know.

Infamous

Encore: Dubai's Missing Princesses I Part 1

951.385

Hi, David. What do you think the world needs more of?

Infamous

Who Sold Pam, Paris and Kim's Sex Tapes?

0.828

So it's really just you hanging out with your mates then?

Infamous

Who Sold Pam, Paris and Kim's Sex Tapes?

1647.38

Hi, David. What do you think the world needs more of?

Let's Talk Legacy

CLIP: Daniel Boone, Thomas Jefferson, and George Washington

0.129

Tell us a little bit about Nancy Ward, when she lived, what the state of the Cherokee Nation was doing during that time, and how she was seen amongst her contemporaries.

Let's Talk Legacy

CLIP: Daniel Boone, Thomas Jefferson, and George Washington

143.624

So she had ties with Daniel Boone? Oh, yes.

Let's Talk Legacy

CLIP: Daniel Boone, Thomas Jefferson, and George Washington

160.905

She was connected with all these presidents and famous people. Well, how did she get that much stature?

Let's Talk Legacy

CLIP: Meeting Mother Teresa

113.61

Wow. It's one thing to know about it, but you're right. It's another thing to experience it. Yes. Yeah. Now you mentioned at the beginning that your parents didn't have life insurance, didn't have insurance. And this show is by no means even aware a life insurance company. Is it really pushing life insurance?

Let's Talk Legacy

CLIP: Meeting Mother Teresa

132.198

I've seen being in the business now, how having this protection has helped so many families and not burden the kids. number and the spouse when something happens. But what's been your experience with life insurance and what you've seen over the years with your employees and even the people that you serve?

Let's Talk Legacy

CLIP: Meeting Mother Teresa

207.297

I'm a strong believer. Yeah. Yeah.

Let's Talk Legacy

CLIP: Call From JFK / Riding Shotgun with an Oscar

155.265

Do you have any personal stories of your time with the Kennedys that really struck a chord with you?

Let's Talk Legacy

CLIP: Call From JFK / Riding Shotgun with an Oscar

85.839

Was there a time that there was a personal accomplishment that you did that made you feel like, yes, I honor my father. I was blessed to be in that situation. But you know what? I'm pretty proud of myself, too.

Let's Talk Legacy

CLIP: Uncovering a Secret Family

109.639

You've been doing this for a bit now, and is there a couple success stories or one that comes to the top of your mind of anybody that really touched your heart, that really showed the impact of you preserving these memories?

Let's Talk Legacy

CLIP: Uncovering a Secret Family

164.985

He had another family. So in other words, he was kind of married to two people or what?

Let's Talk Legacy

CLIP: Uncovering a Secret Family

186.199

That's crazy.

Let's Talk Legacy

CLIP: Uncovering a Secret Family

53.333

What was that experience like for them? Did they ever share that with you? Have you ever gotten into that a little bit with them?

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

1260.13

What do you think? Like whatever donations you get. Okay.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

1263.914

It's an expensive brand. It is.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

1306.388

So you started that institute at the end of 2017.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

1374.051

Well, we in Europe, we are used to be a bit behind. But if I can recall 2016, there was no discussion about AI in Europe at all. And so it's quite interesting to see that Obama has actually, you know, decided that it's finally time to do something about this topic nobody has ever really talked about.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

1401.593

We're going to talk a lot about Europe today as well. But my question is, can you describe what kind of discussions were going on 10 years ago in American society that this has come up to be something of a topic for the near future, which actually became a big one. Where did this discussion take place?

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

1538.735

You just got the Nobel Prize in physics, interestingly enough.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

1545.406

Yeah, because there's no computer Nobel Prize.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

1556.71

Which is a proven point now, yeah.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

1846.483

I think deep learning was just the technology that perfectly served their current beliefs in that they have to work on the data, that they have to build up algorithms to somehow predict your personal future and be there with an ad before you even know it. And we've seen this everywhere.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

1865.516

as an ad everywhere and we've also seen it in political influence as we've seen in the Brexit decision and also in the elections where we heard there's going to be one in the near future as well in the US that might be influenced as well let me check my calendar I mean I think we can like peel back also just this concept of like what is an advertisement right

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

212.921

Before we dig more into the Signal project, which in itself I think is quite interesting, we'd like to understand how did you get there, where you are right now? So what was your introduction into this digital world? When did it start?

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

2328.153

Was Google still running under the motto of don't be evil at the time?

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

2334.81

It was kind of the end of it, wasn't it?

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

2507.355

A bullhorn like a megaphone.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

2546.189

And like for that matter much more than developers.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

2587.574

energy and solidarity already at that point and then how many percent of the google employees would you say have at one point taken part in this i don't know we were really careful not to keep lists yeah i mean you can dream up a number now you know i i

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

2694.467

So did Google then still love you at that point?

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

2710.646

They have issues, I think.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

2724.038

I mean, it leads to an interesting point because I would say looking from the other side of the ocean, I think to us, this whole tech scene the startups, the new stuff, the internet, everything that has developed in the last 20 years or so always had this liberal touch to it. It felt as if it was mostly about an

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

2753.787

open world loving agenda and it's good for everybody and google's kind of tuned in with their motto and some other companies did as well some not so much but it was always this this feeling that this is uh that the liberal thinking is at the core of everything that is driving the internet forward

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

2778.372

and I think we stopped thinking that now because it looks totally different right now currently we have more the feeling that it's turned into a total right wing thing apocalypse apocalypse somehow and i haven't really seen this coming can you explain what happened to this tech scene what what happened i well you know i think about post 9-11 and a lot of the fights over surveillance and tech

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

2836.513

It's complicated for us.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

30.464

Logbuch Netzpolitik number 503 from October 16, 2024. And you will have noticed it. Wir sprechen eine andere Sprache. Wir sprechen eine andere Sprache heute, weil wir haben heute einen Gast und das ist dann ein Gespräch, was wir heute auf Englisch führen wollen.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

3255.18

I heard some other things, but I think one of the problems was that Twitter didn't see itself as a messaging platform, which was probably a mistake from their point of view.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

3555.69

I find it quite interesting how encryption as a topic has changed over time. It's just more or less 10 years ago that Facebook actually changed to HTTPS on their website by default. And So there was a time not so long ago, you know, where most of the data was flowing around on the internet, mostly unencrypted.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

3578.992

And that although there was these already mentioned crypto wars, you know, about general encryption, but it was also always for nerds and for specific applications. Then it also got this nice paint with this whole cryptocurrency thing

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

3595.816

craze going uh on which made it somehow popular and almost took the word away we're so wrestling and uh yeah and it was also the rise of of of uh encrypted messaging that was really giving uh it's a new fuel so single was in the middle of all of this as we already heard So I'd like to focus on Signal for a moment as an organization that you now head.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

3628.214

What's your understanding of what Signal is and what it's not and how the organization deals with it?

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

3698.445

Well, there's still ICQ and AIM, I think, at the time.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

4277.689

Do people in the EU understand what you're talking about if you are offering these technical explanations why it's complicated? Because we have the impression that they don't really get it.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

4336.065

Which brings me to an interesting point because we are actually very interested in your view as an American, knowing how things work on that continent. What's your impression of how Europe deals with tech, these new technologies coming up and how it impacts society? Can you just give me a feeling for how this is to you? In a good way, in a bad way, whatever you feel, just to…

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

4402.646

I'm just focusing on what you can probably match to Europe in general or at least to the kind of discussions you have on a political level when you face EU institutions.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

4498.325

Amazon, Google, and Microsoft.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

4522.998

Which five platforms would you... This is what's going to happen.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

4581.871

And isn't Telegram one of them?

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

4600.703

So you're not talking about these big tech... Okay, you're focusing on cloud, not so much on the social media aspect.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

4690.086

Back to the magical thinking of Europe.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

4789.634

But apart from the magical thinking, is there anything else you would stick to in Europe?

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

4843.548

Yeah, the GDPR is probably a German thing somehow in its core. For sure. So how does this affect the talk to European politicians and how do you see the trends in regulations and trying to apply new laws and regulations towards this whole tech industry?

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

5110.86

So I read it as you think that the European positions might be slightly under-informed and probably not well thought out in the current situation? Yeah.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

5181.091

Let's stick to this topic because it's still an ongoing battle right now. We are more or less talking about this in every of our shows. And yeah, it's still totally unclear what's going to come out of this. How do you see this discussion evolve?

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

5410.675

But how do you deal with it? If you say the strength of your argument is not enough?

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

5419.719

In terms of political discussions?

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

5734.232

So basically the discussion is led by pointing the other side to the infeasibility of the approach.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

5766.274

Then they will say, but we have to do something.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

5927.745

They might only have two people, but at some point in time, they might have doubled by adding another one.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

6132.721

Have you sent us some? No.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

6261.704

Okay, leaving out Signal completely now, what do you think happened? Pavel Dorf was put into custody, he's now free on bail and Franz talked to him.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

6329.124

So does Signal get these requests too?

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

6425.759

So Cigna as a company, how does it work? I mean... It's a non-profit. Yeah.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

6462.512

And how do you get your talent? How do you get people to work for Signal?

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

6515.06

So the last place in tech where people are actually happy?

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

658.752

That sounds like a quick upgrade from a customer support person to me. So you mentioned MLab, which stands for measurement lab.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

6619.18

And you mean not only a model for other communication companies, but also a model for any kind of technology company?

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

6643.503

That's not what I meant. I mean, I understood you that you think that the... modus operandi of Signal as a company might be something that other companies could also leverage and do. It's not only limited to some much needed devices.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

669.095

Can you explain what this is all about and how it came alive and why you were involved?

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

689.384

The elders of the internet.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

697.768

You're one of them now.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

7097.602

It does, but it's not turned on by default now.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

7227.694

What would you say is the dividing line right now between useful applications for machine learning, expert systems, AI stuff and the hype?

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

7251.064

I'm not talking about, yes.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

7256.543

In a computer science-y way. I mean, really like making applications possible that haven't been before that actually do useful stuff to people or society.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

7318.708

Yeah, you're going right into surveillance capitalism again. Yeah, no, well, that's my, I'm really good at making that turn. I'm looking for a rosy outlook into the future, like hope. Anything in store?

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

811.871

So for practical reasons, you had unlimited bandwidth and zero latency to everywhere.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

900.287

Old school ideological commitment. You don't sound like a book nerd now. You've become a real network nerd.

Logbuch:Netzpolitik

LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

909.87

It's like a real... I read the fucking manual.

Lords of Death

8 | Time Casts a Spell on You

1497.065

What's the story there?

Lords of Death

8 | Time Casts a Spell on You

2123.448

Yes, you are.

Lords of Death

6 | Angel of Death

1984.616

Like a sacrifice.

Lords of Death

6 | Angel of Death

396.36

Now, do you think that he was the ringleader of that situation or do you think that he was just more along for the ride?

Lords of Death

6 | Angel of Death

413.89

So with the whole uncle thing, how did you feel about that?

Lucky Boy | Tortoise Investigates

The relationship | Lucky Boy Ep2

1537.276

And you could see that happening?

Lucky Boy | Tortoise Investigates

The relationship | Lucky Boy Ep2

1549.051

100%.

Lucky Boy | Tortoise Investigates

The relationship | Lucky Boy Ep2

2177.782

So you think that they went and stood... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've got no doubt about it.

Lucky Boy | Tortoise Investigates

The relationship | Lucky Boy Ep2

2353.413

And they never came to ask you about it?

Lucky Boy | Tortoise Investigates

The relationship | Lucky Boy Ep2

2356.896

And they never stopped the relationship continuing?

Lucky Boy | Tortoise Investigates

The relationship | Lucky Boy Ep2

2478.669

Sorry, so you're saying it was completely consensual between this 14-year-old and the 27-year-old woman?

Lucky Boy | Tortoise Investigates

The relationship | Lucky Boy Ep2

317.093

So just describe that. What would it look like?

Lucky Boy | Tortoise Investigates

The relationship | Lucky Boy Ep2

334.347

Like where?

Lucky Boy | Tortoise Investigates

The relationship | Lucky Boy Ep2

348.035

And you could see that happening?

Lucky Boy | Tortoise Investigates

The relationship | Lucky Boy Ep2

554.571

When did she say it to you?

Lucky Boy | Tortoise Investigates

The relationship | Lucky Boy Ep2

589.989

Not only your sexual relationship, but your relationship as a couple.

Lucky Boy | Tortoise Investigates

The relationship | Lucky Boy Ep2

636.24

You never saw any of her flatmates?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Credit Card Scammer Makes Millions Living a Double Life

1964.641

Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Credit Card Scammer Makes Millions Living a Double Life

3663.701

All right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Credit Card Scammer Makes Millions Living a Double Life

3674.824

Hey, Jimmy. That's their best.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Credit Card Scammer Makes Millions Living a Double Life

4880.296

Okay.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Credit Card Scammer Makes Millions Living a Double Life

5116.476

What do they say when they arrest you?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Credit Card Scammer Makes Millions Living a Double Life

5126.644

Okay.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Credit Card Scammer Makes Millions Living a Double Life

5130.507

Okay. Okay.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Credit Card Scammer Makes Millions Living a Double Life

5584.419

Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Credit Card Scammer Makes Millions Living a Double Life

6329.258

So you didn't even answer the door. You just pick up the phone. Let me call my PO before I answer the door.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Credit Card Scammer Makes Millions Living a Double Life

7262.796

Yeah, he did.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

104.873

So, I mean, do you have any brothers or sisters?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

1181.17

What was it? For what? What's the reason?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

1569.841

How many cops are chasing you?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

1578.887

And the car's in your name?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

167.972

Has your mom been incarcerated? Yes.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

1831.747

Why would she even let you borrow the car again?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

19.302

How many cops are chasing you?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

201.436

Okay. So you went to, you know, raised in a rough area. You went to school there, right? In that area? I went to school.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

27.969

Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You're telling me the cops never showed up? Never charged me. Never charged you?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

2880.202

You're saying it wasn't even yours?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

2962.87

You think this is all from running from the cops? I'm saying from when you ran from the cops.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

3118.847

So they booked you?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

408.45

Did you explain, like, I grabbed the wrong bag?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

4251.643

You know what I'm saying? So do you realize, so what happened? After you left, there was, somebody got killed?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

4275.359

And you think she was setting them up?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

4280.023

It wasn't her? Okay. Who was it?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

4293.549

Yep. His girlfriend.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

4299.092

Okay. And they catch the people, they catch the guys that did it?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

43.831

Hey, this is Matt Cox and I'm here from old boy in the nitty. He is a rapper and he is falsely incarcerated and we're going to be doing an interview about his story. So check it out. Well, this has been, you know, tough to get, get you into a position. Yeah. You're currently incarcerated on a charge, which we'll get to, right? Yes. But let's kind of start at the beginning real quick.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

4321.905

So what did the detectives say to you? Did they think you had something to do with it first?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

437.2

But basically, they just considered that like a weapon, right?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

4461.597

So what happened? Go ahead. Sorry.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

518.914

What were you doing?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

5197.646

Pretty much.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

5201.908

It's just a burglary.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

5900.136

Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You're telling me the cops never showed up?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

5905.018

Never charged you?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

5914.986

What about the other two guys?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

5922.79

Okay.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

6090.54

First degree murder for what? Burglary. First degree burglary.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

620.618

Okay, so, I mean, did you ever get a job or anything? Did you ever try anything?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

6769.961

Okay.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

6953.173

All I remember... Wait a second. So, you went into the house.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

6962.039

Okay.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

7180.541

I had a question. You don't remember hanging out the window, pointing the gun? You don't remember any of that?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

7321.143

Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

734.733

When you say take some drugs home, were you transporting the drugs or you were just saying you're going to buy them?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

75.103

Where were you born?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

7731.476

So on 20 years, you do 17? 17 and a half.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

7743.524

Whoa. You still got eight and a half years.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

7827.0

Have you tried to appeal it?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

7852.211

Trying to get out of prison.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

7893.765

Well, it looks good.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

7895.826

It looks good for him to hire these people. It looks good.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

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So it's like... It's a shitty situation.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

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Well, what are you doing while you're there?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

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Okay.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

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So how many of these interviews have you done?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

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Well, where did the other ones go?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

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Majority of what?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

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Oh, okay. Yeah, listen, I'm going to call a couple of – well, I'll text a couple of guys if you want to do any more of these. Yeah. Man, what's up? You trying to get my celly on there? I mean, what's the story again with the celly? Let him tell you. Come here, Skinny.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

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hey how you doing huh hey i'm good i'm good what's uh what's uh what's the story real quick just like in like can you give me a reader's digest version a quick version not really no um well i'm saying i'm trying to figure out like if we need to schedule something longer like i can't obviously we can't do it now

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

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Entered into an investigation and it just continued to spin in that within the investigation until you became the prime suspect.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

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Um, okay. Well, listen, um, uh, marquise has my my number like we can text okay you want to text something so i'm going to contact somebody because i i may or may not have something on this friday so next week i can probably figure out a time but obviously you guys have certain times you can do things so okay sorry go ahead

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

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Can Marquise text it to me, her name and her number?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

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Yeah, yeah. Have him do that and then I'll contact her and we can try and figure out some way to do like a. you know, like an in-depth interview, not like a 15 minute interview, but like, like this where just tell me like, Hey, I was raised here. Here's my parents. Here's my brothers, my sisters. I was raised in, you know, this community. I went here.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

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I was never any problems or Hey, maybe I had problems as a kid. However, you know what I'm saying? Cause most people like, you can't, you can't tell me your fucking story in 15 minutes, bro. Like, you know, you can't even do it in 45 minutes because the truth is, is like, You kind of need to know that background. Were you ever in trouble? Was it a bad neighborhood? Was it a good neighborhood?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

The Craziest Crimes Behind Bars | Olboy from the Nitty

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Was it in my character or not in my character?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

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Have you lost confidence in him? The fact that you guys see this so differently.

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EP. 191: GEORGIA - The Child In The Trash Bag: The Disturbing Murder of Amari Hall

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First of all, he's gonna get smacked now. I don't know if he's looking at me.

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EP. 191: GEORGIA - The Child In The Trash Bag: The Disturbing Murder of Amari Hall

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So everything was fine as far in Europe between you and Brittany?

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EP. 191: GEORGIA - The Child In The Trash Bag: The Disturbing Murder of Amari Hall

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Okay. And obviously you had daily contact with the kids when they were living under your roof, right?

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EP. 191: GEORGIA - The Child In The Trash Bag: The Disturbing Murder of Amari Hall

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When Amari left your house and went off with Brittany and her siblings, did you have any cares or concerns about Amari?

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EP. 199: IDAHO - The Man Who Killed His Neighbor's Family: The Majorjon Kaylor Murders

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As the suspect came through the airport, I readied my camera, raised it up to get a close-up shot of him. As I got a close-up shot and as he got parallel to me, Gary Cloche shoots and kills him. Gary, why? Gary, why? And to this day, it stands out in my mind, the shooter, Gary Plocher, says, if it had been your child, you would have done the same thing, too.

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EP. 199: IDAHO - The Man Who Killed His Neighbor's Family: The Majorjon Kaylor Murders

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I would have to say the videotape was the most ideal witness in this case. You can actually see him take the gun out of his boot, pull it up to the shoulder lever of Jeff Doucette and pull the trigger and shoot him.

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EP. 199: IDAHO - The Man Who Killed His Neighbor's Family: The Majorjon Kaylor Murders

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Neighbor Christy Willem has lived in Kellogg most of her life and is grappling with what happened across the street.

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EP. 199: IDAHO - The Man Who Killed His Neighbor's Family: The Majorjon Kaylor Murders

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The Shoshone County Sheriff's Office says four people were shot dead. A 31 year old suspect has been arrested. Multiple attempts to get more details from investigators weren't answered Monday.

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EP. 199: IDAHO - The Man Who Killed His Neighbor's Family: The Majorjon Kaylor Murders

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Paul Roberts is the associate pastor of Mountain View Congregational Church.

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EP. 199: IDAHO - The Man Who Killed His Neighbor's Family: The Majorjon Kaylor Murders

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As investigators continued processing the scene well into Monday afternoon, Roberts is looking to what his church can offer when that's over. A sanctuary and a place to grieve.

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EP. 199: IDAHO - The Man Who Killed His Neighbor's Family: The Majorjon Kaylor Murders

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The memorial behind me has grown overnight throughout the day. I've watched people stop their cars to take a look. Others have walked up to lay down flowers. The family friend who helped put this together says she wants people to remember the guard apiece as a good family.

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EP. 199: IDAHO - The Man Who Killed His Neighbor's Family: The Majorjon Kaylor Murders

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Beneath the backdrop of a busy Idaho Interstate, a quiet memorial is steadily growing outside this duplex on the corner of Utah and West Brown Ave.

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EP. 199: IDAHO - The Man Who Killed His Neighbor's Family: The Majorjon Kaylor Murders

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Katie Ann James is a longtime family friend now helping honor Kenna Garda P and the three family members killed sunday night.

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EP. 199: IDAHO - The Man Who Killed His Neighbor's Family: The Majorjon Kaylor Murders

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She says Kenna was a mother figure to everyone who always remembered to pack extra essentials on their joint family trips.

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EP. 199: IDAHO - The Man Who Killed His Neighbor's Family: The Majorjon Kaylor Murders

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She worked at a nursing home just across the street and knew the residents' meal preferences down to how much chocolate to add to their milk.

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EP. 199: IDAHO - The Man Who Killed His Neighbor's Family: The Majorjon Kaylor Murders

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James says Kenneth's father, Kenneth, was helping raise her two teen boys, Devin and Aiken Smith. Aiken was about to turn 17 and looking forward to a military career after high school while serving in junior ROTC.

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EP. 199: IDAHO - The Man Who Killed His Neighbor's Family: The Majorjon Kaylor Murders

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Investigators return to the scene Wednesday, where prosecutors say Major John Kaler shot the family of four. An affidavit shows Kaler accused Devin Smith of lewd, inappropriate conduct in front of a window in full view of Kaler's young children less than a week before the shootings. The affidavit says police responded and investigated with no further details.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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No, like I said, there's some detectives talking to her, so in order to make sure we get everybody's story right.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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So let me explain this. If you guys are both telling the truth, then the story will be exactly the same and you have nothing to worry about. Okay, Fabian, based on some information we've got from other detectives who are still out there, from your old lady, we have some other things that have kind of come up that aren't making sense that I want to talk to you about, okay? Mm-hmm.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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Are you doing okay, bro? Did you get some water? Yeah. What'd you eat, dude? Was it anything? I had the Uber or whatever. It was kind of gross, huh?

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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We're trying to figure out exactly what happened because, like we said before, I think Victoria deserves that. Well, yeah. I mean, anybody deserves that, but especially a little girl, you know?

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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So, Fabian, just off the top, we're going to ask you this. We obviously have Victoria's body, okay? Okay, could I ask you this real quick? Where'd you find it? Okay, so we can get into that. We have Victoria's body. Now, We're going to do a bunch of tests and stuff. We'll collect a bunch of evidence from her body, okay?

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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We can tell what kind of things were used to injure her, how she died, if something happened to her, what injuries she sustained before she died.

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We'll be able to tell if there's injuries on her body, if they were sustained before she died. We'll be able to tell how she died and then what injuries she sustained after she died, okay? So that'll help us out. We will also be able to tell who's touched her. Yeah, I want you guys to very much. Who she touched.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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We can see if she scratched somebody, if she grabbed somebody's hair, if there's hair or clothes on her. There's all kinds of stuff, right? You've seen TV. Yes, I want this to all. Okay, so here's the question I have to ask you because of that. Because we're going to get those tests back. We are. My question just lay out.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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for what reason would we find your DNA on Victoria, on her body, on her clothes, or even inside of her body? And I know that sounds horrible, and I have to ask that question. No.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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Any reason I'm going to find any of your DNA in her fingernails from her fighting with you or scratching you? Nope.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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I've never been in something like that. I believe you. I think if you could have stopped whoever it was that killed Victoria, if you could have stopped them, I believe you would have. I would have. Okay.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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The fact that you're getting your ass beat by some chick up in the apartment and you run off... and leave a little girl and your girlfriend in the apartment with a crazy chick with a fricking iron.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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So you're looking after your own. So what I'm saying now is fricking be a man and tell it because you're no, this is what I'm going to say. Like I said, I don't, I don't want to hurt your feelings, but I want you to be a strong enough man to say, I'm not going to let her hurt my feelings. I'm going to tell her what really happened because you're full. Okay, no offense.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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The story that you're giving isn't matching up to our scene. If we can explain it, it makes sense. It doesn't mean you're in trouble or did anything wrong. I'm not personally judging you. I could give two , okay? I understand. But I'm telling you what it looks like and what it's gonna look like to anybody else. So we need to just explain everything.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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We've got a bunch of evidence. And so, like I told you, I'm putting this puzzle together. And the only person whose pieces don't seem to be matching right now are you and Michelle's. Everybody that we talked to at the apartments, their pieces all match. They match the physical evidence that we have. They match the witness evidence that we have.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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What I want to know is what you and Michelle's involvement was, whether... No matter how hard... Listen to me. Stop. That's, again, when you start to jump in on me like that... I won't say that. That was a little late and you finished. Okay. It makes me think that you're being deceptive with me. Okay, well, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that you hear this. When you...

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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You've already said, and you've agreed with us, there's no way that the things that happened to Victoria could have happened to her without somebody hearing. Now, whether she was screaming or not, she didn't have to be screaming. She didn't have to be screaming. Just the noise alone of what was done to her body would have woken anybody up. And it woke up every apartment in your building.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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Except for the only people that are supposedly not awake are you and Michelle, okay? According to you. I'm just telling you what I'm being told. So do you see when I have people in apartments telling me that they wake up and they hear banging, something being drugged in an apartment, they hear screaming from a little girl, mind you, and they hear adults arguing.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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So I believe that you guys are arguing. I believe that there's a fight. Now, I also think that some of the filler in there that you've told me is just straight up. And I understand you're scared, okay? There's a little girl that's dead in an apartment, and I don't blame you for being scared. To be honest, on a lot of novels, I don't blame you for lying about stuff if you're lying. And here's why.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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It's a natural, listen, it's a natural human reaction in the situation that you're in to protect yourself. This isn't some stolen TV or somebody that got a bullet wound in their arm. This is a dead 10-year-old girl and I'm taking that as serious as I possibly can, okay? We're going to talk to Michelle. They're talking to her right now.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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I have a little bit of information, like I told you, of what she said. And it's already conflicted with what you said on some point and you're trying to clarify that for me. I appreciate that. We're also going to talk to Jess, okay? Now here's the problem.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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If the story you're telling us doesn't quite match the evidence, and Jess comes in here and tells me a story that does match the evidence, and for whatever reason she implicates you in the murder, I'm telling, being honest with you, then you're gonna get wrapped up in this. This is your one and only opportunity, and I'm serious, to tell us the truth.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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If you saw Victoria dead and it freaked you out and you ran out, then it is what it is, okay? If you helped clean up the blood and whatever, You helped try and get rid of her, whatever it was. This is the time. Listen, this is your only time for redemption. You might have to own up to the consequences. Listen, you might have to man up to that.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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And I'm not going to lie to you, but this is your only time to come clean because once we walk out of this room and we put Jess in this room, if she tells us a story that makes a lot more sense with the evidence, the physical evidence, and it implicates you and it makes you the bad guy, you're gonna be the bad guy.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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You know, my employment is like something. I know that sometimes people do really, you know, things that get them off and maybe get them off even that they're more embarrassed of what the public's going to think. But this stuff's pretty private, okay? And I understand that if, you know, there were two girls and you guys are getting high and it gets people off to hurt a little girl.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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I mean, it happens before, because let me tell you.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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But you're putting this on your cousin. I'm not buying it.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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Victoria's birthday was... Just yesterday. Just yesterday, right? Okay. And what were you guys going to do for Victoria's birthday?

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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What was the... Did you guys have a... The parka ballet. The part at the hospital, it's up at the intervention. Oh, okay. Okay. Nice. We guys just, we just had friends and cake.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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Okay. And she was 10, just turned 10? Yeah. What were some of her favorite things to do? Color, math. Math? Gymnastics.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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Okay. What, does she do like tumbling and gymnastics? Wow. You're gonna miss her. Yeah. I'm just worried about my son. Well, and I want you to be able to be there for your son. Okay?

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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Can you explain to me that again? What time did...

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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Okay. Did you... What happened next? Did you go check on her?

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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And did you ever see it after it went missing? No. No?

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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Just that we're gonna dispose of the body. So let's back up just a little bit, okay? Because you're missing, you're skipping around. So Fabian tells you she's not breathing. Did you go check on her? I did. Okay, and tell me about that. What did you see? Just her laying there. Okay.

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I didn't know what to do. There's another reason that you didn't call the police that was in there. Why didn't you call police?

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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Okay. I understand. I understand. That I understand. Okay. I mean... There's drugs in the house. You don't want to get in trouble. OK. So you check on your daughter. And what do you find? OK.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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The female detective was trying to comfort Michelle, but not because she felt bad for her, because she wanted Michelle to open up about what really happened. And while holding her hand, Michelle continued. Okay. What happens from there? There's a conversation between you and Fabian and Jessica. What is that conversation?

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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Your baby girl? This is your 10-year-old baby girl, Victoria. Because you were there, and you saw, and you watched. So what was the discussion about what was going to be done with Victoria?

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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So from the time you find your daughter and she's dead, Victoria, is dead in her room, am I right? And then you leave. What happened in between that time?

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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So explain the whole pillow over her head. What was that for?

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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Oh, okay. So you see her and she's, can you kind of explain to me, she's holding her hands? So they were cutting her arms off in the bedroom?

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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Why? They said they were taking turns at her. Okay. And... When you saw this, you didn't call 911 because you were afraid that the cops were going to know that there were drugs in the house?

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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So... You guys, or you watch, but Jessica and Fabian cut your daughter out, Victoria. They cut her arms off. They cut her leg off. They cut her from here to here. Victoria, they cut her. And you watch, right?

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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So explain to me what happened after that. You guys started cleaning up?

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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After you guys cut the arms off of Victoria, cut her leg off, and wrapped her up in a blanket and put her in the bathtub, right? Then you went and made dinner. And what did Jessica and Fabian do?

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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So where did they cut her up at? The bathtub. The bathtub. So where did they cut her arms off at? In the bedroom. In the bedroom.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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Did you, when they were cutting her up, Victoria, did you ever touch Victoria or hold onto her, hold her arm? Did you ever hold her steady?

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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Okay. So you go and make dinner. Okay. And they are clean. And then what happens after that?

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Well, because you were probably sick to your stomach. I can't. Yeah, I can't.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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When did you and Fabian have intercourse? And was it forced? It wasn't forced. Okay, so when did you guys have intercourse?

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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Before you went to bed. Was it before or after you ate? After. After you ate. Okay.

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EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - RAPED & MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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One question, and it's a very serious question. Okay. Who was raping your daughter? Who was assaulting your daughter? She's six years old. Who was sexually assaulting your daughter, Michelle? Because you knew about it.

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When did you find out that Fabian and Jessica were active with your daughter? When did you find out? And be honest. Not too long ago. Not too long ago. Okay. If I would have known that, I would have totally get out. So, how much were they giving her so that way they could assault her?

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They gave it to her quite a few times? Oh, they gave it to her.

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When did you find out that Fabian was having sex with your daughter, with Victoria? How long ago? Just recently. Just recently? What does recently mean? Like days, weeks? Days. Days?

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A couple of days, like two days, three days, four days, five days? Two. Two days. Okay. And when did you find out that Jessica was also assaulting your daughter? Were they doing this together? Yes. Okay.

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You were there. When your daughter was being assaulted, you were there. Where were you? You were in the bedroom. In your bedroom or your daughter's bedroom? My daughter's bedroom. Okay, and where were Fabian and Jessica? I thought they were having a cigarette.

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No, no, no, no. You watched them give them her and you knew what they were going to do. Don't play. Let's not start playing games now, girl. They weren't having a cigarette. You knew they were in your daughter. Where were they in your daughter? What room?

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In her room. How did you participate? I don't think that you assaulted your daughter. Did you help hold her down? You, and I appreciate you being honest about what Jessica and Fabian have done, okay? But the only thing that you're not being honest about is your involvement. Okay? So, when Jessica and Fabian were in the room assaulting your daughter, what part did you take in that act?

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Were you having intercourse with Fabian or Jessica while they had sex with your daughter? No.

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Did you have intercourse with Fabian right after he had sex with your daughter? Yes.

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Did Fabian put his in your daughter's or any other part of her body, her mouth, or her ?

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So it penetrated the lips of her? Was he completely naked or was he clothed?

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On her stomach. Was your daughter saying anything?

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He was just... And you just stood there and watched? You just let them do this to your daughter? Yes.

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And then how long after he did it on your daughter did he have sex with you? How long was Victoria alive after she was ? Or was she dead after she was ? Did they kill her then? I need to know.

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Explain that to me, I don't understand. He hurt her so hard she died?

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Michelle, stop. Let's go back to when we were being honest. This is your girl, Victoria, who is being held down on a bed so an adult man can her.

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How did Fabian and Jessica kill Victoria? Michelle, how did they kill your daughter?

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How are they holding her down? Because if I hold on to Corey's arms, it's not going to kill him. Where were they holding her?

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Whose hand was on her mouth? When he was done, when he did on your daughter, was she dead already? Or was she still alive?

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No, that's not good enough. What did they do when they were done your daughter and holding her by her neck? We're way past playing any games here, girl. Did they do anything?

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They stood there. When you guys started having with Victoria, where did it start? In the living room or in the bedroom?

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Like, Fabian, you said he had his shorts on with his exposed?

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What did you do with her underwear? What did you do with Victoria's underwear? You hook him and you put him in the laundry basket. Why? What was on them? What else? And why was there blood on them? Because he penetrated her.

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And then 20 minutes later, you had sex with Fabian?

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Michelle, you have been bringing men to your apartment to use your daughter and assault your daughter. This is not the first time that this has happened. This is not the first time that your daughter has been assaulted. I'm just going to use the word because that's what it is. You were allowing men to come over and have with your daughter and in turn also having with you. Help me understand that.

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What do you get out of it? Is it a turn on for you?

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But you did last night. And the only reason that we're sitting here today, Michelle, is that it went a little further than it ever has before. This time she died. You weren't ready for the type of animals that these people were, and it went further than you anticipated. But let's start with this.

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How many times that what happened last night, minus her dying, how many times have you watched or that you know that Fabian and Jessica have had with your daughter since they've been in your house? How many times?

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Michelle, we know you watched. How many times did you watch? Every time?

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I've come into your house and had sex with your daughter. Why do you watch? I need to know. Like I said, Victoria is dead. The only thing we have anymore is to bring her justice. Yeah. And to be frank with you, by the sound of the things that she was experiencing, it sounds like death was the easy way out for her. Because it sounds like some pretty horrible things have happened to her in her life.

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Human being to human being. How many other men are out there that have come into your house and have had sex with your daughter or your son, how many men have come into your house and had sex with your daughter while you washed?

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Who else? And men or women, let's put it that way.

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I don't have friends with much women. Okay, so men. We have David and we know Fabian. Who else?

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And how many times did he come over and have with your daughter? How many times did he come over and have with your daughter? One time.

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Ubaldo Codina waking up to a phone call from his mom learning multiple people in his family had been killed.

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Codina sharing these photos with Fox 31 of three of the victims. One of them, his niece Mariana, along with her husband Ken and her dad Jesus.

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Aurora police searching the area of 10th and Geneva Street Sunday morning for the suspect, 21 year old Joseph Castorina.

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The problem solvers confirmed Castorina does have a criminal rap sheet. Kadena told us his other niece survived the shooting.

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Back with Aurora police say they're still looking for the man who they believe killed four people early yesterday morning near Del Mar Parkway.

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And now court records show two of the four killed filed a protection order against the suspect just last week. Police are looking for 21 year old Joseph Castorina. They believe the shooting is related to an ongoing domestic situation between Castorina and a woman who was present but was not hurt during that shooting.

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Relatives have identified three of the shooting victims as family members of that woman. And 9 News reporter Jalisa Arizari is with us now. It sounds like the family had been dealing with this for a while now.

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Yeah, Tom, at least one of the protection orders filed last Monday states there have been issues between Castorena and this family for at least three years. Court records indicate the woman Castorena was in a previous relationship with, as well as her sister and her father, all took steps to try and distance themselves from him. Darkness can cloud details.

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And what happened in the shadows one early morning in Aurora is still coming to light.

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Interim Chief Dan Oates didn't have all the information on Sunday morning. But court documents obtained Monday fill in some of the gaps. Records show three people filed protection orders against the suspect, 21-year-old Joseph Castorena, last Monday. According to family members, two of those individuals are now dead.

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Abby Henson is a chief program officer at Safe House Denver. While she can't speak on specific cases, she says family members of domestic violence survivors are often at risk. Last week, Castorena's ex-girlfriend, her father, and sister all filed protection orders against him.

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They claim Castorena pulled a gun on his ex-girlfriend and threatened to kill her father if her father didn't give Castorena his kids. A hearing to make the protection order filed by Castorena's ex-girlfriend permanent was scheduled for later this week.

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Now we should add Castorina filed a protection order three weeks ago against what is listed as his mother-in-law. Based on the circumstances, this appears to be the mother of Castorina's ex-girlfriend. There was also a protection order violation misdemeanor charge against Castorina that was dismissed in 2021.

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The DA's office says that charge was dropped after being denied a continuance on a child abuse case trial Castorina was facing. So they decided to focus on the felony case instead. Tom and Kim.

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Oh my goodness, this story is just so many layers of sadness. So hopefully they find him. All right, thank you, Jalisa.

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Now to a war where police have made another arrest and a quadruple homicide happened Halloween weekend, but the primary suspect still out there. Today, officers arrested 22-year-old Carlos Casillas Flores. He is the cousin of the prime suspect, Joseph Castorena. Casillas Flores is facing charges of accessory to murder after the fact because officers believe he helped Castorena avoid capture.

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Aurora police arrested Castorena's brother on similar charges last week. Police say Castorena shot and killed three men and a woman at a home on Geneva Street near 10th Avenue. A mother and her children were inside that home at the time. They were physically unharmed.

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New video released by Mexican authorities shows the arrest of Joseph Castorena after a weeks-long manhunt that crossed the border. He was captured Saturday in the state of Aguascalientes, where investigators there say he was staying with a family member. The 21-year-old is accused of killing Kenneth Green Luque, his girlfriend and mother of their two girls,

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Maria Serrano, her father and a neighbor. The murders happened at this Aurora home at the end of October. Kenneth's family, speaking with Denver 7 from Honduras, is relieved Castorena is now in custody.

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Since the shooting, police have arrested several of Castorena's family members, his brother Juan Castorena and his cousin Carlos Casillas Flores. Both charged with accessory after the fact. First degree murder in a statement.

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Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo says the arrest of Joseph Castorena should serve as an example that the dedicated men and women of the Aurora Police Department never quit on a case until those responsible are in custody. We hope this announcement helps bring family and friends of the victims a little closer to the closure they deserve.

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The arrest warrants in this case remain sealed so we still don't know much about the motive for the shooting but family tell us the suspect was upset about not having custody of his kids. One of the victims was his ex-girlfriend's twin sister.

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Sie haben dich dort geblieben? War da jemand außerhalb der Tür oder jemand in der Raum?

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Was würdest du denken, wäre passiert, wenn jemand antwortete?

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Were you asked to actually go and identify your son at the coroner's office?

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Also hättest du ihnen gesagt, wo du warst und was da war? Ja. Was hättest du ihnen gesagt?

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Glaubst du, sie wären erfolgreich gewesen?

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Hast du eine Ahnung, warum die Leute in der linken Rückseite hochkommen?

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Es gab viel mehr Leute im Theater als die beiden, die weggerannt haben. Hatte das Weggerannt euch ermutigt, sie zu schießen?

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We want to call them crazy because we want to make that feel better in our society. But we have to accept the fact that there's evil people in our society that enjoy killing, but that doesn't make them crazy.

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Und wenn du schuldig bist und du zwölf Menschen und ein Kind ermordest, was machst du als Gesellschaft? Lassen wir solche Dinge immer so sein, ohne Zufriedenheit?

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Ich kann nicht alle wegwerfen. Weil ich dann in der Situation außer Kontrolle bin.

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Kannst du mir ein bisschen mehr erzählen?

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Ähm, meistens bevor ich schlafen gehe. Regret über was?

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Die Schüsse sollten meine Selbstarbeit erhöhen. Kannst du mir ein bisschen darüber erzählen?

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Wie hast du dich in Richtung der Mission bewegt? Und die Mission wird über Monate oder Wochen in deinem Leben größer und größer werden. Siehst du einen Unterschied in der Art, wie du dich erinnern möchtest oder wie du dich erinnern wirst?

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At the time, just after the shooting, you thought maybe you hit 20 people and killed 3, you weren't sure?

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Erfolgreich. Wir sind auf der Ebene von wenig Erfolg zu großem Erfolg.

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Wie ist es mit den 50 oder so Menschen, die verletzt wurden? Kollaterale Schmerzen. Kommt das unter die Erfolgskolumne oder nicht?

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How high was the music turned up? To its full volume. Full volume. So what could you hear besides the music?

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Verlässt es den Erfolg? Nein. Gibt es einen Niveau des kollateralen Schadens, der vom Erfolg von zwölf Tötungen abläuft? Oh nein.

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Die kollateralen Schadens von verletzten Familien, die wir in den letzten paar Tagen geredet haben?

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Und jetzt? Zählt das gegen die Tötungen?

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Ja, wir wissen das. Wie ist es wichtig für dich?

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We know that they were injured for you to kill the other people. I'm asking you how it matters to you. If it does, you said it matters. It doesn't matter in terms of detracting from the kills.

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But you say it matters in some other way.

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Als du die Schüsse anbringst, warst du die ganze Zeit mit Gasmaske an? Ja. Wie gut konntest du aus der Maske sehen?

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If you could have killed 12 people without the injuries and the

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Es gibt keinen Tag, einen Moment oder einen Sekunden, an dem wir nicht denken, was uns passiert ist.

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Es war wirklich ein Schuss in den Arm, immer wieder. Aber mit dem Brief. Die Zeitung war schrecklich. Es fühlt sich einfach schrecklich an.

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I feel he lost his right for life when he walked in that theater that night. My plea to Mr. Holmes is, and his family is, just accept what the fate is. If it was decided by the people who you hurt and by the DA's office, it's not going to change.

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War es eine Sensibilität zu dem, was dich um dich herum befindet?

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Was fühlen die Leute, wenn jemand neben ihnen geschossen wird?

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Was fühlen sie, wenn sie schockiert werden?

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Ist es etwas anderes an der Erfahrung im Theater, das in deinem Kopf steckt, das du vivid erinnerst?

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Du gehst nach außen, du gehst durch diese Tür. Hat jemand anderes durch die Tür vor dir gefahren?

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Hattest du deine Hände auf, bevor sie es dir gesagt haben?

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Hatten sie dich ziemlich scharf behandelt oder nicht?

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Als die Schüsse vorbei waren, wie viele Leute hattest du getötet?

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War jemand da, um dich zu interrogieren, bevor du zu Bogan gingst?

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This may sound like a silly question, but it's really not. Why did you want a lawyer? To be protected. In what way protected?

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It sounds like you had within the plan... Zwei mögliche Ausgaben, zu sterben und in die Gefängnis zu gehen. Eine geringe Chance, wegzugehen, ist jetzt weg. In welcher Weise brauchten Sie sich von der Enttäuschung zu schützen, wenn das der Weg war, der jetzt da war?

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What was the benefit to telling them all about it?

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And how did that change, if it did, the view that you didn't want to talk?

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Wie ist das? Sie nehmen deine Fingerprinten, sie nehmen deine Fotos.

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Echt? Bevor sie dir sogar gebildet haben? Richtig. Sie haben dir die Fotos gebildet? Ja. Wie war es in der Interrogation?

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When It All Falls Apart

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Months and months and months after, because he said those things the day after his confession.

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When It All Falls Apart

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So basically from the official story, his recantation simply disappeared.

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When It All Falls Apart

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What was it like to watch those people die?

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When It All Falls Apart

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So there was a real, genuine, itch in your back fear that somebody was going to come after you.

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When It All Falls Apart

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Make you angry?

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The Ring

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The reason I ask you is that the two people upstairs in their bed were shot to death.

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The Ring

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What I'm telling you is you're telling us you're in this house, okay? Did you not tell? Oh, my God.

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The Ring

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I didn't do it.

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The Ring

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How long did that process take?

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The Ring

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Does that seem a little over the top? I mean, you can look for an hour or so and say, well, I can't find it. Sorry. And that would be that.

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The Ring

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Any specifics about what you found out on that order form, where it was sent, do you remember that? It was Wisconsin, I do know that.

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In Cold Blood

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As you remember that moment, it makes you feel pretty emotional, doesn't it? Yeah.

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In Cold Blood

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It's got to be surreal to a moment like that. I mean, could you... Does your mind even register what... No.

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Do you regret saying that President Biden had a mental acuity? He had a sharpness to him. You said that up until July of last year.

Nobody Should Believe Me

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The son is a teenager. He has access to the internet. Like he could be listening and figuring things out and like, what would you, what would you want to tell them now? And then what do you hope for them in the future?

Nobody Should Believe Me

S05 Ep06: Human Timebomb

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Okay. And so you saw her have like one of those painful episodes or a... I did.

Nobody Should Believe Me

S05 Ep06: Human Timebomb

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Yeah.

Nobody Should Believe Me

S05 Ep06: Human Timebomb

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Oh, man. I'm sure that was hard to see. Does she like double over in pain or does she lay on the floor or... What do you remember her reaction?

Nobody Should Believe Me

S05 Ep06: Human Timebomb

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Yeah. She can't speak it.

Nobody Should Believe Me

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Really?

Nobody Should Believe Me

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Okay. I can't imagine as a grandparent seeing that. Okay. Have you attended any medical appointments with Sophie and ?

Nobody Should Believe Me

S05 Ep06: Human Timebomb

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Wow, that's going to be a hard diagnosis to end.

Nobody Should Believe Me

S05 Ep06: Human Timebomb

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Have you ever seen the paralysis?

Nobody Should Believe Me

S05 Ep06: Human Timebomb

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Is she, you've seen it more than once?

Nobody Should Believe Me

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Was she standing, sitting?

Nobody Should Believe Me

S05 Ep06: Human Timebomb

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And having that, are you able to describe it? Like does the paralysis make her go rigid and she falls?

Nobody Should Believe Me

S05 Ep06: Human Timebomb

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Have you witnessed any of these episodes or these events?

Nobody Should Believe Me

S05 Ep06: Human Timebomb

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Yeah. So what did you see her do?

Nobody Should Believe Me

S03 Ep07 RERUN: Trial of the Century

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Let's go back with your note here. You know, it says, you see where it says, today Maya is in pain. Do you see that? Yes. Okay. And then... It says, quote, she describes the pain as constant and involving her entire body, including legs, back, head, and arms. Do you see that? I do.

Nobody Should Believe Me

S03 Ep07 RERUN: Trial of the Century

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Is that the type of pain presentation that you would typically associate with the patient with pediatric complex regional pain syndrome?

PBD Podcast

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Speaking of potentially great ideas, can you tell us about the Trump card? Sure. Whose idea was that? And how did that come about?

PBD Podcast

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You know, a lot of people did vote for him. Yes. Do you accept their right to do that and their opinion of him?

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You're shaming me for my political choices. I'm asking you a question about why you endorse someone who's been found liable for rape.

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Eine letzte Frage für Sie, nach all diesen unglaublichen Jahren von Erfolg und Führung in dieser großen Nation und der Welt. Welche Tipps möchten Sie der jüngeren Generation geben, die sich auf dich anschaut und möchte lernen, wie du all das erreicht hast? Gib uns ein paar Tipps.

PBD Podcast

Trump & Bukele BLAST CNN's Kaitlan Collins w/ Eric Bolling & Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 577

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Why don't you start off with the Caitlin Collins? Cool. Do you have any questions, please? Let's not.

PBD Podcast

Trump & Bukele BLAST CNN's Kaitlan Collins w/ Eric Bolling & Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 577

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Warum sagen Sie nicht einfach, dass es nicht wundervoll ist, dass wir Kriminelle aus unserem Land entfernen? Warum können Sie das nicht einfach sagen? Warum gehen Sie immer mehr und mehr, und das ist der Grund, warum niemand mehr Sie anschaut. Sie haben keine Kredibilität. Bitte, gehen Sie weiter.

PBD Podcast

Trump & Bukele BLAST CNN's Kaitlan Collins w/ Eric Bolling & Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 577

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Look, I'm a very flexible person. I don't change my mind, but I'm flexible. And you have to be. You just can't have a wall and you'll only go... No, sometimes you have to go around it, under it or above it. Vielen Dank.

PBD Podcast

Trump & Bukele BLAST CNN's Kaitlan Collins w/ Eric Bolling & Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 577

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Ich war 16 Jahre alt, weil ich fahren und meinen Freund holen wollte.

PBD Podcast

Trump & Bukele BLAST CNN's Kaitlan Collins w/ Eric Bolling & Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 577

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Sie können keine nuklearen Waffen haben. Und ich denke, sie schlagen uns zusammen, weil sie so gewohnt sind, mit dummen Leuten in diesem Land zu reden. Und ich hatte Iran perfekt. Wenn man keine Angriffe hatte, hätte man nie Oktober 7 in Israel. Die Angriffe von Hamas. Weil Iran kaputt war. Es war stornkalt kaputt, als ich Präsident war. Und ich will sie nicht machen.

PBD Podcast

Trump & Bukele BLAST CNN's Kaitlan Collins w/ Eric Bolling & Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 577

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Ich will, dass sie eine reiche, große Nation sind. Die einzige Sache ist, eine Sache, einfach. Es ist wirklich einfach. Sie können keine nuklearen Waffen haben. Und sie müssen schnell gehen, weil sie ziemlich nah dran sind. Und sie werden keinen haben. Und wenn wir etwas sehr hart machen müssen, dann machen wir es. Und ich mache es nicht für uns, ich mache es für die Welt.

PBD Podcast

Trump & Bukele BLAST CNN's Kaitlan Collins w/ Eric Bolling & Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 577

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Und diese sind radikalisierte Menschen. Und sie können keine nukleare Waffe haben.

PBD Podcast

Trump & Bukele BLAST CNN's Kaitlan Collins w/ Eric Bolling & Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 577

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We've had direct talks yesterday. They began in the past. It's been indirect talks with a mediator. But there's Steve Witkoff meeting with the foreign minister of Iran. What can you tell us?

PBD Podcast

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Is that something that you've floated to them or you've heard from them?

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Wenn du zurückblickst... Once the news broke and how everything was handled by media and the White House, how do you think it should have been handled?

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We shouldn't doing enough to determine whether the money that's being plowed into homelessness is being well spent.

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I'm sorry, Governor, I didn't hear responses to either of those questions. Do you acknowledge whether the money that the state isn't doing enough to ensure that the money is being well spent?

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But I asked not about illegal immigrants, I asked about refugees. And Jean-Claude Juncker, the Commission President, says that you're racist. You sound proud of the fact that you haven't taken any refugees.

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Howard here, you made huge headlines when you said after you complete these 15 episodes of Empire, you got to walk away for a while or forever?

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Ann Applebaum, thank you so much. Appreciate it. You have this whole article in The Atlantic. Appreciate your time.

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I kind of feel like we... didn't get that in the first trump i don't know why it's not that there wasn't great art in the first trump but it's wasn't like during that four years you look back on that and feel like feel about it the way that you might about the civil rights movement all right like all this like amazing like kind of music and and movies

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Do Democrats have an authenticity problem?

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You know, I've covered a lot of countries going through Democratic backsliding, and I've seen how often opposition parties fail to recognize until it's too late that they might have been made irrelevant. And I wonder if you think that the Democratic Party might be making that mistake.

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Will you take steps to return Kilmar Abrego Garcia to the United States and put him in front of a judge?

Pod Save America

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He's an illegal alien, and I'm sick of the liberal media saying that he's a Maryland man. He's not a Maryland man. He's a guy from El Salvador

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Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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Just a quick note, this episode contains some cursing that you might not usually hear on this show. Nico Case is one of those musicians that people have really strong personal attachments to, especially indie music lovers of a certain generation. Like, I know two people who have named a child after her.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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Yeah. I was more thinking, like, you had this life, and you had to escape this life and find your family elsewhere, and you had a huge, strong motivation to do that, and so you found music. Yes. But that's just another way of saying trauma made you a great musician.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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Do you mean financially broke or personally broke? Financially broke. Really? How is that possible?

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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When we come back, more with Nico Case on politics, on forgiveness, and a recent experience with her friend's death that she said felt like getting on a spaceship to go to the moon.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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And I couldn't believe it. That's after the break. I wanted to ask you about gender because it's the way you write and sing about gender is very much the way a lot of people talk about gender now. And I'm curious how you have watched the evolution of how people inhabit and think about gender, like in your lyrics to Man. I'm a man.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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That's what you raised me to be.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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You don't mean that literally. What do you mean by I'm a man? I do mean it literally.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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And when you say it's taught you so much about yourself, what do you mean? Because in the book, there is one way in which you very much inhabit the experience of a woman of that generation, just like, you know, at the hands of careless and arrogant and brutal men, like a teacher, older brothers, fellow musicians. And then there's a sense I imagine of being trapped in that.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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So what have you learned about yourself? In this era of gender fluidity. Like, how do you think about yourself?

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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So you don't see the world... You see the world as making some cultural progress in how we think of what's a man and what's a woman in some corners, but not a lot of progress politically or socially.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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Like, it was such a perfect image from that era. And you were hiding out with your headphones on. I think you mentioned listening to Atomic by Blondie.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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To shift away from politics, since we get a lot of it over here in D.C., although this is related, the thing— Well, I mean, a human being's right to be is—I mean, that's just everyday life.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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Do you feel like that's something you found at this age? Because you've said, oh, there are times in your life where you haven't had self-confidence, you've been depressed, or you've kind of lost your mind even in one section of the book. Is it easier to not be afraid now?

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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Right. Like just a million times. Do you have words for what that was like for you? Because it felt like, OK, that's the moment that she discovers the power of music. And like in a movie, that would be the scene in which you discover like what music is for and what it does to you.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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I mean, one of the things I took most from your book is how you write about forgiveness. It's related to this. I mean, you definitely acknowledge the beauty of forgiveness. But then you say this other thing, and you could read this in a lot of different ways, which is the trust your contempt paragraph. Do you remember that? You don't have the book in front of you, right?

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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Yeah. Dissect it if you can. If something doesn't stir anything but contempt in you, then there's a reason. Don't canonize your contempt, but don't ignore it. This is the part that I love. It's so good. Sometimes bad things are just senseless brutality that finds you. You do not deserve or ask for these things. They're not always teaching you a lesson.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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Where would you say you are kind of after, you know, you have a lifetime of songs, you have this memoir, sounds like you have friends, on this path? Yeah. Is it different for different people? Like forgiving, members of your family, people have hurt you in the past.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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So you would say you're at different places with different people?

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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What about your dad? I was curious about him because he plays a kind of shatter role in the book, not quite with the extravagant cruelty of your mother, but... Maybe neglectful, maybe, is the right way to put that.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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Yeah, and ended up raising you. Not really. Right, ended up housing you under the same roof. Sometimes, yeah. Sometimes. Yeah, there was that moment when you guys reconnect over a car, like you speak car talk with each other, which is very familiar to me. I come from a family of mechanics and car people. And so I found that very peaceful. It was like a tiny second of peace in a very rocky journey.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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You know, I listened to, like, I've just been nonstop listening to your music to prepare to talk to you and sort of tuning into the different moods of different albums. And I wonder from you, what's the song you wrote when you were happiest? Or even when you listen to it now, it makes you happy. Like, it just makes you feel good.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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So it's like a song that makes you feel like all of this pain and trauma, like you can handle it.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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This episode of Radio Atlantic was produced by Janae West, edited by Claudine Bade, Rob Smirciak engineered, and Genevieve Finn fact-checked. Claudine Bade is the executive producer of Atlantic Audio, and Andrea Valdez is our managing editor. I'm Hannah Rosen. Thank you for listening.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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So why did it take so long, do you think, for you to, you know, open your mouth and sing? Like you played in bands, but you didn't really sing for a while.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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So what was the point where you were like, oh, I can do this?

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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Nico Case is a lead vocalist of the indie pop collective The New Pornographers, and she's also had a long solo career. But what's most distinct about her are her lyrics, which are often oblique. Like a song seems to be about a car crash, but maybe it's about incomplete grief. You have to listen a few times before you get closer to it.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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Now, the desire is the desire to make music, to write music, to sing. Like, what was the desire?

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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In the book, you complain about your voice. You write that it was neither pretty nor powerful. Yeah. Oh, that's not a complaint. It's not a complaint.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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Chimney falls and lovers blaze Thought that I was young It gets so physical.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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Well, even in this just few minutes that we've been talking, you like describe a little journey from a point where, you know, the world gives you a set of expectations and tells you you can and can't do things. And you seem to sort of find your way out of that, you know, either through your voice or how you experience music or even the way you write about institutions.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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Like you write, you know, the country music institution was limiting in some ways.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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And is the other thing, like, you inventing your own genres? You know, like, you've given them names over the years that are not country noir or odd rock and things like that. Like, is that the way out? Is that what you tell women? I think that what it is is...

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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So you don't mean just then. You're talking about then and now there's a resurgence. I think it's worse now. I think it's far worse now than it has been in a long time. I mean, there was a moment, there was a good moment for women. It was a brief good moment for women in country music.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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Well, it's good Beyonce made that country album then.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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That's true. I think that reading your memoir, for me, changed how I heard your music. And I wasn't sure if that was the right thing or not the intended thing. Like, is that something you explicitly thought about? you were doing. Like, at times I almost read it like, oh, this is a key to some lyrics. And I wasn't sure if that was correct or not correct.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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Yeah. I don't know if it's ruin it. I think it's just complicated. Like, I'll give you an example and maybe just indulge me and you can walk me through the process. Like, I'm the listener. You're the singer. When I read the book title, of course, I immediately thought of your 2013 album, The Worst Things Get, The Harder I Fight, The Harder I Fight, The More I Love You, for obvious reasons.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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Because of the song Nearly Midnight Honolulu, which has run in my head for 10 years.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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Hey, little kid that I saw at the bus stop one day.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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You know, it starts with the kid at the bus stop, and then the perspective is quickly shifting, so it's hard to keep up with who's the you and who's the me.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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And then there are lots of times when Kay seems to be writing about herself, but it's not entirely clear.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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When your mother said, your mother said, like I couldn't hear her, she said, get the fuck away from me.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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And then that kind of devastating line about, you know, my mother, she did not love me.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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My mother, she did not love me. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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In your mind, is that line related to the book in any way?

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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Were they trying to tell me something? Were they telling me to run?

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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Her mom was just an asshole. I mean, reading your book, I did think, oh, Nico, that line resonated with Nico for a reason. Because of struggles with your own mother. Do you mean for people to read the memoir that way?

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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Mm-hmm. I think your experience is actually pretty unusual. Yeah, it's pretty... Damn weird. Pretty damn weird it is. When Case was in second grade, her father told her that her mother had died of cancer, which was surprising because Case didn't even realize her mother was sick.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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This is Radio Atlantic. I'm Hannah Rosen. Last month, Nico Case peeled back some of the mystery. She's written a memoir called The Harder I Fight, The More I Love You, which shares part of the same title as one of her albums from 2013. She writes about growing up poor and neglected. Her parents were teenagers when they had her, and her guess is that neither of them ever wanted a child.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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And then a year and a half later, her dad said to her one day, I don't want you to think your mom's a ghost, but she came home. As Case recalls in her memoir, the story was that her mother had had terminal cancer and gone to Hawaii to recover, but didn't want Case to see her so ill. And Case, who, remember, was a little kid, believed her. She had her mom back. She was happy.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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It only occurred to her later, after many, many years and another disappearing act from her mother, that she might never have been sick in the first place. It's one of the weirdest stories I've ever heard. I mean, it is a little shocking and hard to forget. And I'm not sure if you knew that or recognized it in that way.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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So where did it register for you? Because now I see that what I am assuming about that song isn't actually how you move through the process. Like, I just assumed you had that in your head when you wrote the lyrics. You did not love me. No, because that lyric is I mean, it is haunting, like even the way you sing it and the pacing of it. I just assumed you had that in your head, but maybe you didn't.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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Maybe you just had it in your subconscious somewhere. Yeah.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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She didn't love me. And it's just the fact.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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When you work out kind of memories and pains in song, I don't know, is cathartic a banal word to use here? Like, is that, like, does it do something for you to work it out?

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

906.342

Interesting. Yeah. Because I feel like one glib way to read a memoir like this is, oh, from family trauma and a mother who didn't love you comes immense creativity. Like, how wonderful. What's wrong or right about that interpretation?

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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You mean they don't need to suffer? Because it feels like reading this book, your suffering is related to how you think and work through things and organize things.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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So to you, it just feels like pure baggage. It's like a thing you've had to tolerate, but you could have been a singer some other way.

Radio Atlantic

The Strange, Lonely Childhood of Neko Case

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By the end of her sophomore year in high school, she asked her mom for emancipation. She writes, quote, she couldn't sign it quickly enough. She didn't even have to think it over. And so Case hid a lot behind her music. One of my favorite scenes is you as a kid in the school library. Like, you remember that the beanbags were corduroy, you know? Oh, yeah. The image was so perfect.

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Do you think about global warming a lot living here?

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Keyes didn't kidnap and kill people because he was crazy. He didn't kidnap and kill people because his deity told him to or because he had a bad childhood. Israel Keyes did this because he got an immense amount of enjoyment out of it.

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Okay, did he tell you she said he's home? Yeah. Did he use those words?

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251: Lori Vallow on Dateline, Teen Found Dismembered After Social Media Meetup, Karen Read Updates, and More!

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Were you there the night that Tylee died? Were you there the night that JJ died? Was Alex in these places when they died? In the place where they died, were you there?

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251: Lori Vallow on Dateline, Teen Found Dismembered After Social Media Meetup, Karen Read Updates, and More!

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It doesn't matter. I'm not pretending I know. I'm asking you a question.

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251: Lori Vallow on Dateline, Teen Found Dismembered After Social Media Meetup, Karen Read Updates, and More!

2098.132

How could you possibly think that Chad would be exonerated after what happened?

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251: Lori Vallow on Dateline, Teen Found Dismembered After Social Media Meetup, Karen Read Updates, and More!

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Let me start right with the headline. I'm going to get right into it, Ronnie. Did all 12 of you inside that jury room agree that Karen Reid was not guilty of murder? Count one in that indictment. Correct. Okay. Now let's roll up our sleeves a little bit. How did you vote? Was there a raising of the hands? Was there someone writing down what your vote was? Was it a secret ballot?

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251: Lori Vallow on Dateline, Teen Found Dismembered After Social Media Meetup, Karen Read Updates, and More!

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How do you know and how was the process that all 12 agreed that she was not guilty of murder? Count one.

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251: Lori Vallow on Dateline, Teen Found Dismembered After Social Media Meetup, Karen Read Updates, and More!

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Was there, now you mentioned that you didn't fill out paperwork. Was there any discussion about should we check the box on the verdict slip?

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251: Lori Vallow on Dateline, Teen Found Dismembered After Social Media Meetup, Karen Read Updates, and More!

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So explain to us why the presumption was that you had to come to a conclusion on all three. Was there any debate among the jurors about whether or not we have to agree on all three counts or it can be just one count or it can be two counts? Was there any discussion or debate amongst the 12 of you about

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257: Nichol Kessinger, Lori’s Back & Jodi’s Not Guilty?

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So you heard the shot? Mm-hmm. Did you actually see the shot, or did you just hear it?

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227: WARNING: Canadian Version of Chris Watts | The Case of Robert Leeming

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How do you feel about this whole thing? Terrible.

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227: WARNING: Canadian Version of Chris Watts | The Case of Robert Leeming

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But to know the police are calling this a homicide, to know that someone has killed a 22-month-old child.

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227: WARNING: Canadian Version of Chris Watts | The Case of Robert Leeming

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But you're saying that is not you?

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227: WARNING: Canadian Version of Chris Watts | The Case of Robert Leeming

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But isn't it hard to believe that somebody would kill them?

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227: WARNING: Canadian Version of Chris Watts | The Case of Robert Leeming

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But isn't it hard to believe that somebody would kill them?

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227: WARNING: Canadian Version of Chris Watts | The Case of Robert Leeming

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But you're saying that is not you.

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254: The Cringy and UNHINGED Case of Nicholas Rossi: From Most Wanted to Most Embarrassing

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What do you say to people who say these are crocodile tears? He's putting on a show. This is all an act. Oh, that's a low blow. That's a right low blow.

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254: The Cringy and UNHINGED Case of Nicholas Rossi: From Most Wanted to Most Embarrassing

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These are very serious charges that this man faces. They claim this man faked his own death to evade those charges. Did you fake your own death?

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254: The Cringy and UNHINGED Case of Nicholas Rossi: From Most Wanted to Most Embarrassing

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Exactly. Exactly. What do you say to someone who believes that you are Nicholas Aliverdean?

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244: Cultfluencer: The Dark Side of YouTube’s ‘Perfect’ Mom | Ruby Franke Devil in The Family

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JOHN YANG What about before then, though? I mean, there are a lot of allegations even earlier.

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244: Cultfluencer: The Dark Side of YouTube’s ‘Perfect’ Mom | Ruby Franke Devil in The Family

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JOHN YANG If he's done nothing wrong, why is the state still keeping control of the kids, right? I mean, if he did nothing wrong in any other case, the other parent would be able to take care of the kids.

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263: Karen Read Retrial: Everything You Need to Know | Facts, Shady Secrets, & Cover Ups

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All 12 of you inside that jury room agree that Karen Reid was not guilty of murder. Count one in that indictment. Correct. Okay, now let's roll up our sleeves a little bit. How did you vote? Was there a raising of the hands? Was there someone writing down what your vote was? Was it a secret ballot? How do you know and how was the process that all 12 agreed that she was not guilty of murder?

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263: Karen Read Retrial: Everything You Need to Know | Facts, Shady Secrets, & Cover Ups

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Was there, now you mentioned that you didn't fill out paperwork. Was there any discussion about should we check the box on the verdict slip?

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263: Karen Read Retrial: Everything You Need to Know | Facts, Shady Secrets, & Cover Ups

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So explain to us why the presumption was that you had to come to a conclusion on all three. Was there any debate among the jurors about whether or not we have to agree on all three counts or it can be just one count or it can be two counts? Was there any discussion or debate amongst the 12 of you about

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263: Karen Read Retrial: Everything You Need to Know | Facts, Shady Secrets, & Cover Ups

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what the rules were when it was time to fill out the verdict slip and determine and let everyone know where you were in these deliberations?

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263: Karen Read Retrial: Everything You Need to Know | Facts, Shady Secrets, & Cover Ups

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See, that's interesting. See, that's fascinating. That's something I would think. the folks in Massachusetts would be interested in is that now you're talking about there's debate about the rules within the jury. See, I look at that, that's the fault of the system, not informing you ahead of time about these things.

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223: The Truth About Hannah Kobayashi: Love Triangle Scam, She's Refusing to Leave Mexico & The Shocking Twist

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And Ryan, if you could talk to her, if she could see this message from you, if she could see some of your appearances, what would be your message to her?

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223: The Truth About Hannah Kobayashi: Love Triangle Scam, She's Refusing to Leave Mexico & The Shocking Twist

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And Dog, you actually knew Hannah, which I kind of wondered about because you're from Hawaii. Hannah's from Hawaii. I know you've got a lot of connections there. What do you know about her?

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223: The Truth About Hannah Kobayashi: Love Triangle Scam, She's Refusing to Leave Mexico & The Shocking Twist

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I'm joined now by Hannah's sister, Sydney Kobayashi, and the family's attorney, who's a very familiar face on this program, Sarah Azari, NewsNation's legal analyst. Thank you to both of you. Sydney, I want to begin with you. And first of all, I'm just really sorry that You and your family are going through what you're going through. I cannot imagine what it's like.

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223: The Truth About Hannah Kobayashi: Love Triangle Scam, She's Refusing to Leave Mexico & The Shocking Twist

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And then to sort of see this news conference, do you have any idea why Hannah is staying silent so long?

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223: The Truth About Hannah Kobayashi: Love Triangle Scam, She's Refusing to Leave Mexico & The Shocking Twist

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So, Sydney, we all learned yesterday with the news conference that Hannah had crossed on foot, seemingly by herself of her own volition, into Mexico. When did you and the family learn about that detail?

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240: Did a Florida Teen Get Away With Murder - TWICE?! The OUTRAGEOUS Case of Collin Griffith

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Y eso es todo lo que estaba preocupado, el regreso de su teléfono. ¿Entonces estaba enojado con el regreso de su teléfono o enojado por no ir a la cruz y ir a ser evaluado? Creo que ambos.

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240: Did a Florida Teen Get Away With Murder - TWICE?! The OUTRAGEOUS Case of Collin Griffith

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¿Cómo la atacó? ¿Qué pasó? Cuando me atacó.

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240: Did a Florida Teen Get Away With Murder - TWICE?! The OUTRAGEOUS Case of Collin Griffith

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I'm trying to figure out why we would have a corporal at the jail that took you out, that dropped you off and telling us that you said don't put me in a car with her, I'm going to kill her. What does this all start over? Has this been ongoing forever or has this all started last night?

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240: Did a Florida Teen Get Away With Murder - TWICE?! The OUTRAGEOUS Case of Collin Griffith

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Estoy tratando de entender por qué tendríamos un corporal en la cárcel que te llevó a... que te dejó... y nos está diciendo que tú dijiste, no me pongas en el coche con ella, voy a matarla.

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240: Did a Florida Teen Get Away With Murder - TWICE?! The OUTRAGEOUS Case of Collin Griffith

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Creo que yo simplemente no... No lo creía.

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240: Did a Florida Teen Get Away With Murder - TWICE?! The OUTRAGEOUS Case of Collin Griffith

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Obviamente eres una chica inteligente, lo entiendo, pero obviamente también tiene que crear este tipo de ambiente en esta situación, ¿verdad? Y no he oído nada, no has dicho una palabra sobre lo que está pasando, lo que estás haciendo o lo que está pasando para provocar esto o de dónde viene, aparte de que de repente tu mamá se desvanece del control y hace esta cosa.

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240: Did a Florida Teen Get Away With Murder - TWICE?! The OUTRAGEOUS Case of Collin Griffith

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Si no hacemos algo, no lo haremos. Si no hacemos algo, no lo haremos.

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247: Exposing The Truth About Belle Gibson & Netflix’s ‘Apple Cider Vinegar’

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Belle, Belle, Belle, please. I mean, either you're interested in getting to the bottom of this and presenting the facts as they are the facts, or you're not.

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247: Exposing The Truth About Belle Gibson & Netflix’s ‘Apple Cider Vinegar’

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Were you in hospital at the time that you were posting these?

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247: Exposing The Truth About Belle Gibson & Netflix’s ‘Apple Cider Vinegar’

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I mean, you go into extraordinary details. I had surgery about seven hours ago. The doctor comes in and tells me the draining failed and I went into cardiac arrest and died for just under three minutes. I had the most intense bruising from the paddles when they electrocuted me back to consciousness. I think... Minus the wires and constant throwing up of blood.

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247: Exposing The Truth About Belle Gibson & Netflix’s ‘Apple Cider Vinegar’

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Anyway, the procedure failed and I died.

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247: Exposing The Truth About Belle Gibson & Netflix’s ‘Apple Cider Vinegar’

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Melodramatic now? I mean, they're straight out lies. You weren't in hospital. You're claiming you were. You claimed you died twice. You didn't. You claimed you had two cardiac arrests. You didn't. That's not melodramatic. That's straight out lying.

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247: Exposing The Truth About Belle Gibson & Netflix’s ‘Apple Cider Vinegar’

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Extraordinary lies. And if you lie about that and you go to those extraordinary lengths to create the story around that lie, how can we believe anything you say now?

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247: Exposing The Truth About Belle Gibson & Netflix’s ‘Apple Cider Vinegar’

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I don't mean to be crass about it, but it was also the fact that despite being given a four-month deadline, you were still alive.

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247: Exposing The Truth About Belle Gibson & Netflix’s ‘Apple Cider Vinegar’

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Was that an indicator to you that you didn't have brain cancer?

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247: Exposing The Truth About Belle Gibson & Netflix’s ‘Apple Cider Vinegar’

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Well, we've already asked for background information. We've asked for all your medical records and your medical history. You haven't given us any dates. You haven't given us any brain scans. You haven't given us any MRIs. You haven't given us any tissue tests. You haven't given us anything.

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247: Exposing The Truth About Belle Gibson & Netflix’s ‘Apple Cider Vinegar’

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Oh, please. I mean, either you're interested in getting to the bottom of this and presenting the facts as they are the facts,

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247: Exposing The Truth About Belle Gibson & Netflix’s ‘Apple Cider Vinegar’

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Did you live in fear of being found out?

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247: Exposing The Truth About Belle Gibson & Netflix’s ‘Apple Cider Vinegar’

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Would you accept that you're a pathological liar?

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247: Exposing The Truth About Belle Gibson & Netflix’s ‘Apple Cider Vinegar’

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Do you take responsibility for driving any people away from conventional medicine in seeking treatment for their cancer?

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247: Exposing The Truth About Belle Gibson & Netflix’s ‘Apple Cider Vinegar’

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Okay, Belle. This is a really, really simple question. How old are you?

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247: Exposing The Truth About Belle Gibson & Netflix’s ‘Apple Cider Vinegar’

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So when you needed to file some financial documents, how did you choose the birth date you gave, if you don't know?

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247: Exposing The Truth About Belle Gibson & Netflix’s ‘Apple Cider Vinegar’

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Right. So currently, then, according to those documents, you're 23.

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247: Exposing The Truth About Belle Gibson & Netflix’s ‘Apple Cider Vinegar’

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No, no, don't draw on information. Just be honest.

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247: Exposing The Truth About Belle Gibson & Netflix’s ‘Apple Cider Vinegar’

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Please be honest. I'm trying to be open to what you're saying, You were just muddying the waters with every answer.

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247: Exposing The Truth About Belle Gibson & Netflix’s ‘Apple Cider Vinegar’

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What has your sister done to your life?

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247: Exposing The Truth About Belle Gibson & Netflix’s ‘Apple Cider Vinegar’

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You are, aren't you? You're broken.

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247: Exposing The Truth About Belle Gibson & Netflix’s ‘Apple Cider Vinegar’

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What did that make you think about yourself growing up?

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247: Exposing The Truth About Belle Gibson & Netflix’s ‘Apple Cider Vinegar’

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And she's come out and said that you're virtually non-verbal.

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All right. Thanks, Ubuntu. And so today, you know, that's what the oldest in the Oromo community gathered together to have a chat about what's going on in the Oromia. And they want to support people that who's been injured and then who's been arrested or like someone who's going through hard time at the moment in Oromia. So like, do you have any advice for Oromo people that are around the world?

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Gotcha. So do you recall about the bad check if it was just bounced like the account had insufficient funds or if it was a check from a closed account?

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So it looks like you guys moved her on or around November 19th of 2022, according to this paperwork. She owed y'all $5,000. Is that sound about right? Yeah.

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How much of the court process were you a part of?

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She like rescheduled things a bunch. It looks like it didn't end up getting settled until May 23rd of 2023. And we're talking about $5,000. I mean, most attorneys cost at least 300 an hour.

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Did you guys end up getting paid back anything, to your knowledge?

Something Was Wrong

S23 E6: Dignified Maternal Care with Doula Melissa Espey-Mueller

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What do you think is unique to the Texas maternal health system or the birthing landscape in Texas?

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S23 E6: Dignified Maternal Care with Doula Melissa Espey-Mueller

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One thing we've heard consistently is the birthing community, especially in Texas, is small. Did you have a relationship with Origins?

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To clarify at origins. Yeah. Yeah. What would you say to birthing people, even when they're empowered, they're not quite in the right mind because they're in their birthing brain, if you will. And the trust is then broken through a series of actions that was prioritizing a lower transfer rate than their own health.

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What pieces of information would you want to equip them with in their potential finding of a midwife or care in general, especially a doula as well?

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Thank you so much. It was all vital information for the listeners.

Sword and Scale

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Yeah, that wasn't us.

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I know.

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Why you got to be so rude to us? Can you be nice for two seconds?

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What does that mean, you have to be rude?

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Well, there were some allegations that you were hot-headed and there were some weapons in the house.

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Well, I can't tell you.

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You sound like a smart guy, man. I mean, did you ever think about going to college or was that not on the radar for you?

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Yeah.

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Were you already awake when she woke up?

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2 this afternoon? Oh my goodness gracious. Yeah.

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Once they had his whole attention, they let him know why.

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He's saying that he's got me in an armada.

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And that's just to inform you why we're here. What brought us here this third time?

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Well, think about it. Because we wanted to talk to you about it.

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Why so late? Was she out late last night?

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Okay.

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Sure. And do you think that she was at home that whole time?

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Is she the type of girl that might sneak out for a couple hours? No. To a Thursday night party?

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What was her demeanor when she woke up this morning? What did she look like? Was she just typical? Bad-bitten, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

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On that PC?

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Right there in the living room?

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Why'd she do that?

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Did she say where she was going?

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Yep.

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She didn't say which trail she was going on today?

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Okay, how long has she usually gone? Does she always go for walks like that?

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Yeah.

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So it's kind of unusual for her to walk this late in the afternoon, in the evening?

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So she leaves the house, and you don't know what trail she's going on, but were you fairly confident she was going to go on the trail?

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She didn't just walk around the village or anything like that?

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You may be wondering what this interview is all about.

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What did he think of this text message from you?

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You haven't noticed anything strange in the last couple months, couple weeks, couple days even?

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I mean... Did April mention anything about having any odd encounters on her social media stuff? Was she talking to anybody?

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Okay.

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Did you know her to take drugs ever? No. 14, experiment with it?

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Sword and Scale contains adult themes and violence and is not intended for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised.

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You said you were doing some work? Yeah, filmmaker. Okay. Yeah. How long have you been doing that? Five years, six years. I was producing, and now I'm kind of like directing and making my own stuff and everything. I travel a lot. It's fun.

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Yeah, so we'll kind of explain everything that's going on.

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You're about to talk to two of the lowest key people.

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In general.

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Trust me, this is the first of many we're going to do.

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Okay.

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Is that more so your thing? I do like it, but I don't want to be like pigeonholed to just do that to myself. Oh, absolutely. So I have a few ideas and do that. So is it like crazy horror stuff? I like psychological stuff. I don't like the excessive, like, goofy, you know, slasher type. You're not a Saw kind of guy? Saw's cool. I know a couple, Mark Berg is the producer, so he started Saw.

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I know that guy. So do you travel with, I mean... Not always. How do you, like, do you, does that call, do you fly out there? Yeah. BCI, or Ohio's Bureau of Criminal Investigation, sat with Michael for hours. This was no junior varsity interrogation. These guys knew what they were doing, as they took their time to build a rapport with him.

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That's one thing. Like, you just, you know, you're not even being a celebrity. You're just being, like, trying to go to a restaurant or something. Yeah. And there's paparazzi hanging there, like, dude, can we get by? Yeah. Like, it's illegal, but I don't know.

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Sometimes, but when you look at things, it's almost like you're, I don't know, are you, like, mentally filming?

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You have, like, a filter. You just think, like, this would look good on camera, and then you just start imagining that that's what you're doing, I guess. Yeah, you get it. Like, it's like you're like, oh, this is interesting. Like, something can happen to you, and you're like, oh, that would be interesting. So I love photography and I have a camera. I can tell, like you said, you're nailing it.

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Well, that's what I really just do it in the moment. Like I said, like just take it in the moment and be like, oh, there you go. Yeah, but to do that, you'd have to have your stuff with you. Sure. I try to keep a camera on me at all times. Oh, really? Yeah, or something like that. I wear a fanny pack sometimes.

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Well, I guess it is art.

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And the video's over.

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So we started looking around.

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We keep researching things and I want you to hear this whole thing out.

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So we have these text messages that included the video link and

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The number those came back to, but when we researched this number, we found that the most commonly called number was your mom.

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Okay.

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Somebody, whoever contacted her, and I'm not saying Ellie did, but whoever contacted her also contacted your mom.

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Hold this thing up.

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So see this connection.

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And the number when they, the number got researched and comes back to like Doom studio or Doom Dread guys.

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Say for Dredd. That sounds like my old email. Right, that's one. Now you're starting to get why you're here. I have someone posing as you, okay? Hear this whole thing out. Yeah. So I got this and I've got someone watching her backyard. So what am I looking at? I'm looking at maybe a trespassing. I'm looking at maybe a voyeurism. Stalking has to be a pattern of events to do that.

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I need to rule out without a doubt before I can really go any further because I need to. I need to figure out what's going on. I had people make a fake Facebook with me one time. They had all my pictures and stuff and my name, and it wasn't my Facebook. And I reported to Facebook, and they got it taken down. Okay. But that doesn't sound... So you need to be engaged with me on this. Okay.

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And you need to... I know you keep looking at the clock. I can't worry about the time right now because I'm going to get through this. Okay, yeah.

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Do you fish?

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Okay.

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The others, it might have been like, hey, what up, whatever. I don't know. It was Ellie took the bait. And yeah, I probably did do something like that. And I probably did, like I said, I messed around. I did mess with people. And the thing is, I don't have names to numbers. And I messed with a bunch of numbers. And I prank called before. I don't do refrigerator running or whatever.

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That is kind of funny because it's a classic. It is a classic. I'm not lying, but I would never send a video. Tell me about sending out the text blast. He has an excuse for everything, doesn't he? You're the serial... And it's only an issue because she's missing right now. That's the problem. It becomes an issue. So when you did that, and she kind of took the bait, so to speak. Yeah.

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Because I think we're both understanding that that was you doing that. Yeah, but it wasn't... It's really, really obvious it was you doing it. I don't want to insult anybody's intelligence or whatever. But it's not like... But you weren't talking to her as you. No, I was nobody or somebody. You were... You know what I mean?

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Or, like, I would, like, come up with a name, and then I'd be like, oh, yeah, that's her. Or I'd be like, oh, it's Ben. Well, the name you came up with was named Peters. See, I don't remember that. Well, I'm telling you. Okay, okay, okay. Here's the one thing going on in the room right now. You have absolutely 100% no reason to doubt what I'm saying. Okay, yeah, yeah.

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So I just want to throw that out there. I'm not the guy that, I'm not, I don't bluff, and I don't bullshit, because I don't want to insult you. So you were Nate Peters, and I think you know Nate Peters, and when you said, hey, when you said, hey, stranger, she said, who is this? And you said, Nate, and she said this. Nate who? And you said, LOL, what do you know a lot of Nates? I'm Nate Peters.

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I know what you mean. She says, I heard someone's watching you. And she's like, hey, I don't want to talk. Don't ruin this. That creeps me out. And you're like, okay. So now we've established that's you. So as those conversations are going on, there's nothing inappropriate about them. There's nothing, let's take this white elephant out of the room.

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You weren't necessarily honest when we first started talking. Because you said you hadn't contacted her in five years, but I know you've contacted her up all the way until July 29th. I guess, yeah. I haven't contacted her as myself, and it was a joke, and it looks bad. I get it. It looks horrible. We know it looks bad. We know it looks horrible, but we have to get by the optics of things.

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I've got a text number that is being used for this app, and it's contacting her, posing as...

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somebody else and i don't know how you got like have you ever called me i mean how many peters i don't know i i guess as someone i just the name that came to mind because i'm surprised she even knows that's like freaking the most random thing in the world i mean how i mean like why not freaking kareem abdul-jabbar i mean how would you even know like here's what i was wondering did you ever think that the real name peters would contact her like at the same time

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Probably. I mean, funny. I mean, I don't know. That's weird. What the fuck? I guess you don't... It's probably hard to see the humor in this, especially because this is a missing persons case, but like... I know what you're talking about. It's like that crank yankers or whatever. I get it. I get that. Okay. I don't think the CEO... You don't think people are out to get me?

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You think I'm like a conspiracy nut or something? No. I don't want to come off like a big conspiracy nut. And I'm not a... So I'm not... But I'm... Also, coincidences are... I don't... Sometimes you really got to beat me over the head with stuff to convince me. And in this line of work, coincidences and just that conspiracy thing is just, it's just rare.

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And if it happens once in a lifetime where someone goes out of their way to totally do something that's so long range, but I got this video, that's of you. On my account. On your account. My email's been used, my phone number's been used, all this stuff is going towards me. Or your phone number that's attached to the IP address that comes back to the Wi-Fi in your house.

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And I'm trying to show you that, I don't know how this is being woven. Yeah. There's a commonality between all of those things I said.

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they're the way things are on paper they're the way things really are dude look if you stood in her backyard and if you stood in her backyard jerked off and filmed it what the fuck ever okay okay it's embarrassing I get it I can't say I condone it I'm not going to put it up on a billboard whatever it happened and it's just so tightly linked to stuff I don't want to run down that rabbit hole I don't think here's what I don't think happened

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And I don't think someone decided, let's see, who am I going to mic a stress? I'll set up a number. I'll contact people. I'm going to get a video. I'm going to somehow plant it in his. But when you put that, when you go to bake a cake and you've got a list of ten ingredients and you've got eight of them, you don't get a cake. It comes out with some shit. You don't know what it is.

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If I were to take out one of these things, things don't make sense. But with all of these things together, man, it looks like a cage.

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Or like she was driving. So tell me how it could be. Tell me how it could be there. She was on the road. Her car has not moved. Her car is at the house. I don't know. See, that's why I don't know. That's an accusation that I do not know. It's not an accusation. It's a total fact, and I'm not accusing you of anything. I wouldn't have her phone. No, I wouldn't have her phone. I wouldn't turn it on.

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I wouldn't. Yeah. And I'm not Scooby-Doo, but it's like I just don't know. What meddling kids, you know, like, was there, I don't know who helped her get out. I don't know, you know what I mean? Like, that's the thing. The stuff that I did a year ago or prior to that, the message is, yeah, that's one thing, but I don't know.

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I would never hurt anybody like her. You know what I mean? So it's just like I don't know. I don't know what else to tell you guys. But the fact of the matter is someone out there knows. And what happens is a lot of times when you have these conversations, real similar like the video thing, is someone knows something and they think, they think such worst case scenario.

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You probably thought, if you said that you made that video, that the next thing that was going to happen was put your hands up on the fucking wall, you're going to jail, you're going to be on the news. No, not that level. I just feel like you're making it seem like I knew more than I do. And like I'm telling you right now. But you did. No, I was saying, but something happened in the past.

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Yeah, right. The past, yeah. But current day, I don't, like I said, I don't know what to tell you. Right, but we're calling the past July... Sure, yeah, yeah. To me that felt like a long time ago because I've been dealing with a lot of crap. But it's not like we're talking like, you know. Sure. And yeah, it seems like, yeah, it's too close.

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The timeline is too close for something like that, for what I did and for what has happened. So that's concerning to me. Okay. I totally understand.

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Stupid...

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So I have some people that were over at your house.

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It's just being thorough. And it wasn't clear where your room is. Are you searching my house? I'm here. I don't know. That's why I got, like, computer guys walking around. I don't know what they're doing. But there was some confusion as to, because I think there's stuff there, and I don't want to screw anything up or take something that belongs to somebody else or do whatever, so.

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Yeah, we have some reason to believe that there's a white car involved, and there's a white car at your residence, granted it's not registered to you or whatever, but I think you've operated a white car before. And then when I look at it even deeper, I think, well, yeah, you've operated a white car before, and not all the time.

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And then when we looked at the search history, there's videotaping joggers. There's a search where you mentioned the woman's name in Mason. How frustrating is this guy? These detectives are very, very patient. This is insanity. At this point, detectives think maybe he's got something to do with the other case, too.

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So we got you in a white car and I got you doing this thing. And then we have the search history and the search history. And this is where it all kind of circles back around. It's, you know, Mason jogger, jogger, jogger attack. raping jogger, forcible rape, ambush rape, porno video. I'm not saying they're all related, but when... Don't get this straight. I did not condone rape or anything.

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I'm not saying you do. Parasexual harassment or anything like that. Okay. But it has her name, and it's like jogger rape, ambush rape, women joggers. Where do women jog in Westchester?

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something else and then I don't think I ever searched where do women jog in Westchester I'm sorry that's not that can't be a search that is I searched maybe like where to jog in Westchester because I jog I never searched where do women jog in Westchester I would never do that that wouldn't be part of this research maybe you look maybe maybe I read into that's just seeing you I swear that's something I know I would never google and that's the thing that's like um when I did that research for the script it was after that because people said she was lying about um being attacked

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Oh. And it said that I didn't know if it was a rape or not, so I searched if it was a rape or whatever. Where this all goes back around is I got the videos in the white car in Mason of Women Joggers, and I got the searches, and I was saying the searches are sequentially, and they end up with a porn video.

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I didn't look at the video, so I don't know what the video was of, and I don't really want to know right now. I watched a lot of them.

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The bondage, the abstinence, and the full-body latex suits. Why are you asking me? Because that's on your searches. Oh my God, really? Yeah. So that's why I'm wondering if you click on something and you're just like... Oh, I know. I know what the full body light is. It's a movie outfit for a script. It sounds like American... American Horror Story. Yeah. It's like that.

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But it's like, yeah, it's one of the costumes I actually do in a short film. These searches, I don't use it against me because it's like, that's... Well, once again, not using against, but when the theme of those is whether it's for research or personal or whatever, and they're sexual in nature, that fits right back into the circle.

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Well, that sounds like someone that would do this video, that would do that. And then if I want to say stalk, terrorize, whatever, to send it to this person, thank God you didn't send the part where you're doing that. taking your business, because that would have sent her off the over the edge.

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Taking the video, going, clipping it out, send it to her, asking about what her reaction was to it, posing as somebody else while you're talking to her, and the first part of that conversation is about, hey, I heard you're being watched, so it's kind of bringing it back up, and it kind of stimulates that. I was really going to stop the conversation there. That's when I was like, eh, whatever.

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Well, they found her ID in your room. So, Micah. Her ID? Yeah. Her driver's license. That was issued in July.

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And I'm a trained interviewer, and I'm a trained interrogator. So tell me what you think. Do you think I would do something like that? Do you think I'm a serial killer? Or a kidnapper or anything like that? I didn't start this yesterday, and there's a lot of things I hear. And what I hear is you want me to explain why that driver's license and why that hair is in your house. You have no reason to.

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You want me to explain, and I can't do that. Knowing full well that I can't explain why it's there. Makes me sick. And when you say there's only one reason. What's the one reason? Well, I mean, one reason is that someone put it there. Someone, not me, someone that has access to the house. Not fucking me. It's not yet.

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And like I said, I'm always home, so I don't know how that would get... You know what I mean? Well, we've got to get to the bottom of this. We've got to get to the bottom of this. You know, I don't want to get to... There's no bottom.

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Uh, so we have like known samples from her. We have known samples of the hair. Um, it's, It's like putting myself on a chopping block, like, oh, let me keep evidence of stuff around my house. You're asking me why keep it, and I guess if you're asking me hypothetically why would a person keep something like that, it would be a memento of...

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I have never, never have I ever heard of a situation where someone would have gone to such great pains to frame somebody other than TV. Ever. Or to the length of me doing something. That's what I'm asking. Would you ever think that I would, or anybody would just out of the blue decide to be like, oh, I'm taking someone's license, I'm taking this? No. But to be fair, I wouldn't.

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There are people that have gone to great lengths to develop some sort of,

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Yeah. He was arrested for stalking. He doesn't have jurisdiction. Yeah, we'll sort this out. You can pick and choose. If there's something you don't want to talk about, you're like, well, this is what, it's a lot, a lot's changed.

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Okay.

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But just think, I want you to think about this. If we start going into something that you don't feel comfortable with, dude, I want your help. I don't want to make you upset. No, I don't have a lot of things, but me being comfortable right now does not matter.

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I get that. We know you do.

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That's when I said that night when I was texting her to come over, I did. What night are we talking about? even get her in the car and I go over there. Okay. You just drive over to her house? Mm-hmm. I didn't bring my phone or anything like that. I just brought my GoPro camera. Okay. I knocked on the door.

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Were you going to make the video or were you going to like, hey, do you want to make a video? I didn't even mention to her at that point. Oh, okay.

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Oh, so is this, like, snuff torture porn?

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And then that's... And she's just, like... And then what is she doing? She's not moving. She's dead, and that's the end? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. And, like, that's what we always do, and I just, like, or, like, yeah, cover her head up and poke holes. He gets so close to telling the truth, but then it's almost like he's incapable. Like he's unable to see himself as what he really is.

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I wonder if that's contagious.

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Okay. And how many of you guys were having some before that?

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Okay.

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She was still alone when you came back?

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Jennifer was afraid Jessica was going to call.

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Did either Russell or Jessica do it all? Never. Man, what a mess. We better call CPS.

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This was on the way to Wales?

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So you guys left to go get the girls.

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And brought the girls back.

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There was never an answer to the question because you asked her?

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And then Jenny asked her, and Lexa never answered.

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And, I mean, even... They probably weren't used to having a place to hang their coats and their shoes.

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for what she'd find.

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You hear out of it.

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So you stood in the doorway. You didn't actually go in.

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Were you like in the driveway or around the streets?

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Jennifer, you know Mark, right? You've been talking to him? Like I said, I'm Dave. We both work here for the sheriff's office, okay? We want to talk to you about what's going on. Okay? Before we do that, can you look at me while we're talking? Put your hair out of your face so I can see it. There you go. Look at me. There you go. Before we do that, hey, maintain eye contact with me, okay?

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Before we do that, we have to read you your rights, okay? You know what those are. You've heard about them. You've seen them on TV. All right, I'm going to read them to you, okay? Exactly as they are on the list here. All right, and then when we're done, I'd like you to sign them. Okay, and then we can talk. We can't talk until we do that, right? Are you cold? I don't want to talk about it.

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Are you just nervous?

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Okay, let me just read you your rights here, okay? Now, you have the right to remain silent. First of all, Jennifer, okay, take a deep breath, okay? Get a hold of yourself, all right? Just let go. Get a hold of yourself, all right? Now you're upset, and you have your right to be, okay? We have to go through this, all right? Mm-hmm. Okay. Do you understand all those? Yes. Okay.

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And then the last question is, let me see. I don't want to talk about it. Oh, babe, let me finish this, sir. I read these statements of my rights. I understand what my rights are. I'm willing to make a statement and answer questions. I do not want a lawyer at this time. I understand and know what I'm doing. No promises or threats have been made to me.

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No pressure or coercion of any kind have been used against me. Okay, do you understand that? Mm-hmm. Okay. All that, knowing all that, you want to talk to us right now? I don't want to talk about it. I don't want to think about it.

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Okay. Okay. Jennifer, is it because you want to talk to an attorney?

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We just want to get a couple things straight to make sure we got everything right, okay? So we don't want to get anything wrong. Okay. If you want to talk to an attorney, that's one thing. But if you're just a little nervous about it, maybe we can work that out. You were very cooperative during the forensic exam, which we really appreciate. Nurses were very pleased with that. Are you cold?

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You want a blanket?

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Can I get you a blanket? Okay, so erase my brain.

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Okay. Sit tight here for a minute.

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Do you understand what we're trying to do here? You know, like I said, if you want an attorney or something like that, I can understand it. Just write something down. I'm just talking to you. I'm not, you know. We just want to make sure we got things right. We want to make sure we got them understood. We don't want to make any mistakes. That's why we want to talk to you.

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I don't want to, of course, I don't want to talk you into talking if you want to talk to an attorney, but if you're just a little nervous... We can wait. We can get you some water. You know, just have you relax a little bit. Okay. Get you a blanket. It is cold in there. I'm even cold in there.

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What do you think about that? Do you want to sit and think about it with a little bit of water and a blanket? Maybe some water. Okay, well, let me get you some water.

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All right, you don't want to talk to us, is that all right? You don't want to talk to us?

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Okay, stand up then.

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Let me just reiterate. Yesterday you said you didn't want to talk to us because you just weren't up to us at all. Today you want to talk to us? Jennifer? Today you do want to talk to us without a lawyer present?

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Okay. When you say it doesn't matter, that means you want to talk to us? Okay. Okay.

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Jennifer, do you take any kind of medication normally? No. At all? Nothing? No. Okay. Nothing for any type of psychiatric or nothing for any type of physical? No.

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Well, what do you want to know?

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I don't know. Well, we know why we're here, right? Yeah. Okay. We know what happened. You know what happened, right? The big question is why.

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First time you've ever had this type of thing. Okay.

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What day would that have been?

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And what did you guys do? Were you guys picking things up around the house?

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What were you guys cleaning it for?

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Did, were you drinking when they were there? I had a couple of beers when they were there. How often do you drink? You said you've been drinking a lot lately. And how much?

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Do you hear voices when you drink?

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So you return to the house with the girls because the voice tells you not to go.

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Were you going to put the girls to bed?

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Were the girls asleep at that point when you got up? Yeah.

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Yeah, go back to, at 7.30 you woke them up, put their coat and shoes on.

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Where were you going to go, do you think?

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All right. When that happened, where did you get the knife from?

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And how did the girls get back in the bedroom? Did you tell them to go back? Yeah. And they went back in the bedroom. And they were scared. I know. And who, who, who, uh, who went first?

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Your younger one? Bigger one. The bigger one, I'm sorry.

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Did you bring Ashley back in the bedroom next to Alexa? Is that where she died? Is that where it happened?

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Did you actually stab her in the kitchen? Yes. And how did you stab her? Where was she at? Was she on the floor, on the ground, on her back? Was she standing up? I don't remember. Did you stab her? Maybe I didn't do it in the kitchen then. I don't know. Okay. But you took her back to the bedroom at some point. Was she fighting you?

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Mm-hmm.

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Was Alexa already dead at this point? Yeah. And when you laid Ashley, was she dead when you laid her next to Alexa? Or did you lay her down then? I laid her down.

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When you say you made sure she was dead, what did you do?

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See if there's pulp. Can you show me how, can you put the cup down for a second? Show me what hand you held the knife in and show me how you actually, what motion you did. I don't know, just like that, I think. So you're holding your hand up like this and coming down with a knife. Do you hold the knife like this or like this?

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Were the voices still talking to you when you were doing this?

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I don't remember everything. It was sometime shortly after 7.30 yesterday morning when the girls died. Right? Okay. And then how long after that did the dogs die? Do you recall?

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Kill the animals. How'd you do that? There's more water for you too.

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Were they on the ground? Were you holding them?

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And you put her on a blanket?

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Okay, and then what are the little ones called?

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And they were... The offspring of Angel? That was their mom? What kind of dogs are they?

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OK. And then what about that mouse, the pet mouse?

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How did you do that?

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Did you try to stab it?

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Just to go back, just so I can clarify, Alexa was killed in her bedroom. Was she killed right where we found her? On the floor? On that little makeshift bed that you guys were sleeping on? Okay. And then while Alexa was being killed, Ashley ran out of the room and she ran into the kitchen. Under the table. And she was hiding under the table. And I pulled her out.

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And did you stab her under the table at all? Did you try to like say, come out, come out? Or how did you get her out from under the table? Just grabbed her arm and pulled her out, I think. You grabbed her arm and pulled her out? Because there's a little bit of blood under the table. So we're wondering, did she get stabbed under there at all?

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Okay.

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So then once you get Ashley from underneath the table, you carry her back to the bedroom. And did she fight more? Yes. Okay. And did you lay her down right next to Alexa and that's where she died? Yes. Okay. Did she try to get back up and run again?

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Did she say anything to you? No. Jennifer, I know this is hard. Do you recall her saying this to you?

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Was she crying? Yeah. What was she saying? No, no, no, mama, don't do it.

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All right.

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Okay. And how many times do you think he stabbed her? I have no idea. I don't want to know. Do you remember how many times you stabbed Ashley? I don't know. I'm sorry, Alexa? No, I don't want to know that either. Okay. Do you remember when Ashley was stabbed the first time you ran out of the room? Where was she stabbed?

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In the neck?

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Was it a deep wound, or did you just kind of nick her?

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Have you used narcotics in the past, like in your history? Did you use any kind of drugs?

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But recently, have you been using any kind of street drugs? Nothing whatsoever. Any kind of prescription drugs?

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Okay. And have you ever seen anybody about any kind of problems in your head? Ever talk to anybody about it? Go see a doctor?

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Does your mom have some problems?

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Have you heard from the voices since this happened?

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

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So were you there all day then? I was there all day.

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

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Was your door left open all day?

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

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Did you get cold?

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

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Where were you at during the day?

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

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Did you go back in the bedroom at all?

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

3449.19

What'd you do back there? Which bedroom? Did you go to your bedroom or the girls?

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

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How'd you get cleaned up? Was that, your water wasn't running?

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

3537.961

So her reactions to that day... It's surprising because you knew your mom had acted similar to that.

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

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When did your dad go to prison?

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

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He's still in prison for that?

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

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That was your natural father? Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you said the other day that he was still in prison.

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

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When's the last time you made contact with him?

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

3790.463

This was all Saturday night?

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

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Like seance almost type thing.

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

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This was all Saturday night?

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

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Like, seance almost type thing?

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

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Anything else you can think of about this whole incident?

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

482.671

Do you believe she sounded intoxicated at the time?

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

497.758

Okay.

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

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How long were the pipes frozen for?

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

546.956

So just a few days?

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

548.297

Were they frozen or just shut off?

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

563.089

So did your sister maintain that trailer on her own? For the most part, yes. She kept the heat on and kept the water running?

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

719.48

Okay, so you picked up Jenny and the two kids?

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

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Okay, so you picked up Jennifer at, what's her husband's name?

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

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Vanderboss? Yeah. And is that her, is she a boyfriend, just a friend?

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

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Of Jen, right? Yeah. Okay, kids were lost there. Yeah.

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

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Where did she get that information?

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

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Who was hypnotized?

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

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When, back to, you told me the other day your natural father was convicted of rape of Jennifer. At what age? Like how old?

Sword and Scale

Episode 282

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It was over a long period of time.

Sword and Scale

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So you guys went to get bottles the whole time the kids weren't here?

Sword and Scale

Episode 292

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Okay.

Sword and Scale

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Right.

Sword and Scale

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Stop it.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

THREE

Inconclusive | Chapter 5

333.188

I have an interview regarding the Athena Island investigation. Basically, any information you have, the TV, whatever involvement you may have in the investigation. My last question is, as we go along, as you complete your statement, if you can begin.

The Action Catalyst

REMASTERED: I See Something, with Dananjaya Hettiarachchi (Speaking, Storytelling, Success, Personal Development)

140.928

How many times had you entered the contest before? I'm just curious. Well, I started competing in 2006. Tell us a little bit about how did you develop the speech and when did you start to tell that story?

The Action Catalyst

REMASTERED: I See Something, with Dananjaya Hettiarachchi (Speaking, Storytelling, Success, Personal Development)

270.185

What are some of the other, were there any big lessons that you learned in terms of specific practical presentation skills?

The Action Catalyst

REMASTERED: I See Something, with Dananjaya Hettiarachchi (Speaking, Storytelling, Success, Personal Development)

341.371

So repetition, props, and allowing for a pull message instead of a push message. How do you create a pull message instead of a push message?

The Action Catalyst

REMASTERED: I See Something, with Dananjaya Hettiarachchi (Speaking, Storytelling, Success, Personal Development)

425.949

Hmm. So, uh, last little question, you know, after you win the world championship of public speaking, what's next?

The Action Catalyst

REMASTERED: I See Something, with Dananjaya Hettiarachchi (Speaking, Storytelling, Success, Personal Development)

45.376

He is the 2014 World Champion of Public Speaking for Toastmasters International. Dhananjaya Hedyarachi. He is awesome. He's a TEDx speaker and is among a handful of human resource development consultants in the Asia-Pacific region that specializes in performance prediction. Dhananjaya, thank you for being with us. It's a pleasure to be on board.

The Action Catalyst

REMASTERED: I See Something, with Dananjaya Hettiarachchi (Speaking, Storytelling, Success, Personal Development)

71.247

Can you just talk to us a little bit about what is it like competing at the World Championship of Public Speaking?

The Action Catalyst

REMASTERED: I See Something, with Dananjaya Hettiarachchi (Speaking, Storytelling, Success, Personal Development)

92.421

That's awesome. And I want to apologize. It's going to be a little fuzzy because Dhananjaya is in Sri Lanka. And so we're catching him on Skype. So let me ask you this question. What do you think is the hardest part of being in the contest specifically?

The Action Catalyst

Crowd Surfing, with Cassie Petrey (Social Media, Music, Marketing, Business)

1259.834

What's next? As you look to the future, where do we go from here?

The Action Catalyst

Crowd Surfing, with Cassie Petrey (Social Media, Music, Marketing, Business)

1426.326

I really don't say this lightly, but I think it's super inspiring to see the path you've paved. I mean, you're wise beyond your years.

The Action Catalyst

Crowd Surfing, with Cassie Petrey (Social Media, Music, Marketing, Business)

1436.675

I really appreciate you being here. Thank you very much. Of course. Thank you for having me. I appreciate you all.

The Action Catalyst

Crowd Surfing, with Cassie Petrey (Social Media, Music, Marketing, Business)

171.42

Okay, so I've got to put this in perspective. You're 12.

The Action Catalyst

Crowd Surfing, with Cassie Petrey (Social Media, Music, Marketing, Business)

180.886

That's a legit thing to like. When I was 12 years old, I was worried about making sure I had enough hairspray for my bangs, got braces in the seventh grade. Who liked who? Where did this come from? Just talk to me about that.

The Action Catalyst

Crowd Surfing, with Cassie Petrey (Social Media, Music, Marketing, Business)

290.126

When was your first like, hey, I'm on the cusp of making some major histories?

The Action Catalyst

Crowd Surfing, with Cassie Petrey (Social Media, Music, Marketing, Business)

389.736

And I think to your point, hardware available to the masses.

The Action Catalyst

Crowd Surfing, with Cassie Petrey (Social Media, Music, Marketing, Business)

440.686

Here you are today, co-founder of your own social media music management firm. You are young.

The Action Catalyst

Crowd Surfing, with Cassie Petrey (Social Media, Music, Marketing, Business)

594.337

Oh my gosh. Okay. So do you consider yourself more of an artist or more of a business person?

The Action Catalyst

Crowd Surfing, with Cassie Petrey (Social Media, Music, Marketing, Business)

631.369

So this whole genre of business is relatively new. I mean, what is it, 20 years old, maybe?

The Action Catalyst

Crowd Surfing, with Cassie Petrey (Social Media, Music, Marketing, Business)

661.999

So knowing now all the platforms that we have, what advice do you give to folks that say, hey, now, I mean, let's say it's been 20 years. I mean, now it's flooded. So how do you differentiate yourself if you were just now coming up into it?

The Action Catalyst

Crowd Surfing, with Cassie Petrey (Social Media, Music, Marketing, Business)

761.739

That's great counsel. So running your company, what are some of the business things that you wish you knew that you had to learn the hard way?

The Action Catalyst

Crowd Surfing, with Cassie Petrey (Social Media, Music, Marketing, Business)

80.728

Well, hey, I really appreciate you being here. Of course. So you obviously have such an incredible background, especially for being, and I'm just going to say it, so young. So I kind of want to start there. One of the things I read about your background is that when you were 12, you had 10,000 followers to a AOL account for the Backstreet Boys.

The Action Catalyst

Crowd Surfing, with Cassie Petrey (Social Media, Music, Marketing, Business)

959.741

Thank you, by the way, for the vulnerability of sharing that. Of course. One of the things I think you really hit the nail on the head with is the people side of the business. What are some of the resources that you've leaned on to help develop your leadership and management styles?

The Action Catalyst

REMASTERED: Fascination, Persuasion and Captivation, with Sally Hogshead (Author, Speaker, Advertising, Success)

208.113

Well, and one of the things, I've heard you say this before, you say you don't learn how to be fascinating, you unlearn how to be boring.

The Action Catalyst

REMASTERED: Fascination, Persuasion and Captivation, with Sally Hogshead (Author, Speaker, Advertising, Success)

280.7

Larry Wingate one time said, you know, the whole challenge of the speaking profession is to discover your uniqueness and exploit it in the service of others.

The Action Catalyst

REMASTERED: Fascination, Persuasion and Captivation, with Sally Hogshead (Author, Speaker, Advertising, Success)

346.97

So the new book is called How the World Sees You. And this thing is like, it is awesome.

The Action Catalyst

REMASTERED: Fascination, Persuasion and Captivation, with Sally Hogshead (Author, Speaker, Advertising, Success)

48.815

Such an exciting show for you today. Sally Hogshead is a Hall of Fame speaker and her first book was called Fascinate, Your Seven Triggers to Persuasion and Captivation. And she is an expert in branding, in personal branding, and particularly the world's leading expert on fascination. And she's made a few minutes to be with us here. Sally, thank you for joining us.

The Action Catalyst

REMASTERED: Fascination, Persuasion and Captivation, with Sally Hogshead (Author, Speaker, Advertising, Success)

621.542

Sally, this is awesome. I mean, it's fascinating. I mean, to use your term. So, Sally, you are just you are amazing.

The Action Catalyst

REMASTERED: Fascination, Persuasion and Captivation, with Sally Hogshead (Author, Speaker, Advertising, Success)

75.94

Can you just give us like a quick rundown of what Fascinate is?

The Action Catalyst

CLIP: Getting Help Is A People Business

0.189

I think that there is such a natural apprehension to go to the government for help. You're either all in or you have this apprehension. How do you address that? How do you get people over that? And where do they start?

The Action Catalyst

CLIP: Keep Your Small Business On The Right Side of The Law

0.129

Let's say I am a small business owner. Five things that I should have to protect my business, my assets. I come to you, hey, I'm starting this business where I've got it up and running. We're a couple million in revenue. What do I absolutely got to do?

The Action Catalyst

CLIP: Find a Problem and Own It

277.749

Thank you, by the way, for the vulnerability of sharing that. Of course.

The Action Catalyst

CLIP: Find a Problem and Own It

84.839

That's great counsel. So running your company, what are some of the business things that you wish you knew that you had to learn the hard way?

The Action Catalyst

CLIP: Speaking Spontaneously, Exiting Small Talk, Answers When You Haven’t Got An Answer

165.501

OK, second part of that. How do you answer a question that you don't have an answer for?

The Action Catalyst

CLIP: Winning "The Apprentice" / "The Mega-Brands That Built America"

104.704

You were the winner of season one of The Apprentice, which maybe people don't remember was an absolute phenomenon when it was on the air. What was it like to suddenly be in the public eye and what are some of the habits and practices that set you apart from your peers and competitors and ultimately helped you win?

The Action Catalyst

CLIP: Winning "The Apprentice" / "The Mega-Brands That Built America"

218.52

Well, continuing that long television career, you're now featured on the mega brands that built America airing on the History Channel, which is really entertaining. Look into the early innovations in some of the biggest businesses of our time. Do you have a favorite episode or one that surprised you the most?

The Action Catalyst

CLIP: Bullet Holes, KGB, and Fighting Stereotypes

107.586

Yeah. The injection of entrepreneurial spirit that coming to the US and having that experience can change a country. Absolutely. What are some of the bigger stereotypes that you've seen broken down because of the nature of hosting and as a result of your work?

The Action Catalyst

CLIP: Bullet Holes, KGB, and Fighting Stereotypes

43.859

It was a true, pure, real exchange experience for these kids. It also plays a massive role in creating cultural relationships for countries.

The Action Catalyst

CLIP: Mastering Impact, Focus, Vision, Belief, Truth, and Time

0.129

More recently through COVID and in these last few years, what are some lessons that you've taken back and thought about the work that you wrote in Redefining Possible and new applications, new inspirations that you've had?

The Action Catalyst

CLIP: Mastering Impact, Focus, Vision, Belief, Truth, and Time

151.643

I always get in a place where I question whether I'll still think what I'm putting down is important. You now have this perspective, I guess, coming back and adding some highlights to the book. When you wrote it, I guess, how did you know that this was going to be something that you'd read again five years later and go, oh, yes, I still believe these things. It's still important to me.

The Action Catalyst

CLIP: Mastering Impact, Focus, Vision, Belief, Truth, and Time

271.596

A hundred percent. Yeah. I love that. Who did you write this book for? Who are the people that are going to pick this up, read it and go, gosh, that's exactly what I needed.

The Action Catalyst

CLIP: Mastering Impact, Focus, Vision, Belief, Truth, and Time

86.511

Of some of the principles that you bring up, redefining possible, what's another one, I guess, that you're really have been focused on here over the last year or two?

The Action Catalyst

CLIP: Progress Over Perfection

130.598

What feedback or advice would you give a young version of yourself? Like a 21-year-old Luis that's coming out. What do you think that 21-year-old version of you would need to hear from yourself today?

The Action Catalyst

CLIP: Progress Over Perfection

189.814

Yeah, that's good.

The Action Catalyst

CLIP: Progress Over Perfection

23.479

I'm always intrigued by companies that are able to create that culture.

The Action Catalyst

CLIP: Progress Over Perfection

69.414

You know, a lot of folks will, you know, ask, where do I build my community?

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2146 - MORE WINNING: House GOP Passes BIG, BEAUTIFUL Budget!

1195.051

Is it true that President Zelensky is coming on Friday to meet with you? And is the mineral deal sorted out?

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2175 - REBOUND or FALSE SPRING? Has The Market Hit Bottom?

1828.919

Would you be open to a pause in tariffs to allow for negotiations?

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2175 - REBOUND or FALSE SPRING? Has The Market Hit Bottom?

1930.896

You have said it could take two years to get American manufacturing fully up to speed in response to these tariffs. What happens in the meantime? Should Americans be prepared potentially for years?

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2175 - REBOUND or FALSE SPRING? Has The Market Hit Bottom?

1955.779

It takes time. Of course it takes time.

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2155 - Stock Market PLUNGES…So What’s Next?!

797.733

We'll just be servicing debt. And you know how to read an income statement, and you know how to read a balance sheet. You've had some business experience. I'm kidding, but you know about this stuff.

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2098 - A SHOCKING Assassination…And The Left Celebrates!

2333.212

You say it's important that people know the truth. Is there some part of that story that has been depicted in the media that is not true?

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2177 - TRUMP U-TURN WIN: Tariff War Paused, China Isolated!

127.534

Do you personally expect a recession?

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2177 - TRUMP U-TURN WIN: Tariff War Paused, China Isolated!

2965.43

You said the other day that if they do not agree to a potential nuclear deal, that it would be very dangerous for them. What specifically did you mean? Did you mean military action, though, if they don't agree?

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2177 - TRUMP U-TURN WIN: Tariff War Paused, China Isolated!

850.998

Did the market reaction cause the administration to rethink its tariff plan?

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2190 - The Biggest Danger To The Trump Administration

1324.155

Are you thinking about running for president or Senate?

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2190 - The Biggest Danger To The Trump Administration

2001.244

Will you condemn Hamas here and now?

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2190 - The Biggest Danger To The Trump Administration

2009.53

As a terrorist and genocide lawyer.

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2190 - The Biggest Danger To The Trump Administration

2015.375

So you won't. I actually have had this experience many times. You didn't read the pamphlet because the pamphlet is chapter and verse long. The main connection is that the MSA is part of the Muslim Brotherhood network as revealed in the documents.

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2190 - The Biggest Danger To The Trump Administration

2041.361

If you condemn Hamas, homeland security will arrest you.

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2190 - The Biggest Danger To The Trump Administration

2050.906

Well, if you don't condemn Hamas, obviously you're supported. Case closed. I have had this experience. I give you, I had this experience at UC Santa Barbara where there were 50 members of the Muslim Students Association sitting right in the rows there. And throughout my hour talk, I kept asking them, will you condemn Hezbollah and Hamas? And none of them would.

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2190 - The Biggest Danger To The Trump Administration

2078.43

And then when the question period came, the president of the Muslim Students Association was the first person to ask questions. And I said, before you start, will you condemn Hezbollah? And he said, well, that question is too complicated for a yes, no answer. So I said, okay, I'll put it to you this way. I'm a Jew.

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2190 - The Biggest Danger To The Trump Administration

2101.361

The head of Hezbollah has said that he hopes that we will gather in Israel so he doesn't have to hunt us down globally. For it or against it? For it. Thank you. Thank you for coming and showing everybody what's here.

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People

1400.702

When you say they could have three dolls instead of 30 dolls, are you saying you're... Americans could see empty store shelves?

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People

1416.375

But you're basically saying there could be some supply shortages because of the tariffs.

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People

2156.678

Is the goal of these talks limiting Iran's nuclear program or total dismantlement? Total dismantlement. That's all you'll accept? That's all I'd accept. Secretary Rubio has said that he would accept, or the idea is... There is an openness to accepting peaceful, civil nuclear programs.

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People

799.261

Who do you see as your successor, Mr. President?

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People

912.197

Even given those numbers that you're talking about, don't you need to uphold the Constitution of the United States as president?

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2159 - Trump SOARS in Polling, UNLEASHES On Houthis!

1199.938

Is there any evidence of a link to terrorism or is it just his point of view?

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2159 - Trump SOARS in Polling, UNLEASHES On Houthis!

1214.174

Well, then you should know.

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2143 - The True Faces Of Evil

1685.756

You mentioned sanctions. So do you have both on the table ready to go? A sanctions ramp up or wind down on Russia, depending how these talks go?

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2143 - The True Faces Of Evil

2401.287

On these potential checks that you might send out from Doge, is there a concern as you're thinking through this that they could be inflationary?

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2178 - SHOWDOWN: Trump Stares Down China

1713.29

Go back to the numbers that you announced last week. Yeah, I think so. You wouldn't extend the pause?

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2178 - SHOWDOWN: Trump Stares Down China

1832.489

Before we let you go, this is just breaking here. Sure. The media says you're in the doghouse with Trump. Is that true or is that fake news?

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2178 - SHOWDOWN: Trump Stares Down China

3383.687

Piper had acting lesson, voice lesson, one of those. After we dropped Piper off, Tiffany was like, I have to go to the post office and drop off some things. And she had a bag, and she pulled out what looked like Piper's underwear. And I asked her, why are you shipping those out? And she told me that old men like to smell them. And I was confused.

The Brett Cooper Show

Bill Belichick’s BIZARRE Relationship and Meghan Markle’s Podcast Disaster | Episode 28

1779.345

She denied being interested in the royal family, which she totally was. I know someone who knows the ex-husband who said she had a vision board with Prince Harry on it. Before they met? Yes. And she wants to pretend.

The Brett Cooper Show

Bill Belichick’s BIZARRE Relationship and Meghan Markle’s Podcast Disaster | Episode 28

1790.576

You got to admit that is impressive. She nailed it, yeah. Because a lot of people probably did that. It was like shooting fish in a barrel.

The Daily

Inside the Trump Purge: Federal Workers Tell Their Stories

1446.418

If, you know, a week from now, you've been kicked out of the systems and things are still running, someone might say, well, that just proves like this was bloat. We don't need your job. There are too many people. What do you say to that argument that someone who agrees with Elon Musk agrees with President Donald Trump and says... A job like yours truly isn't needed.

The Daily

A Conversation With the Architect of Trump's New Trade War

494.98

That book gets panned. You remember anything from the skewering?

The Daily

Children’s Books Go Before the Supreme Court

469.957

We will hear argument first this morning in case 24297, Mahmoud v. Taylor. Mr. Baxter?

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

Republicans Desperately Spin Yemen Group Chat Fumble | Mayor Michelle Wu

352.628

Is that sufficient accountability to you to recognize that someone made a mistake and moving on? Because I don't see that same standard being held when other people have made it.

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

Republicans Desperately Spin Yemen Group Chat Fumble | Mayor Michelle Wu

612.137

Peter, exit question, and I don't know if you know the answer. Are they ever going to use Signal again for something like this? It seems like yes, they will. Okay, good enough.

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | Black History Month

1223.656

I'm doing good.

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | Black History Month

1226.14

Absolutely.

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | Black History Month

1228.323

I think it's an opportunity we can celebrate ourselves, our contributions as a people. Like, it makes me feel good.

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | Black History Month

1350.39

Heck no. I'm very punctual.

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | Black History Month

1353.194

I know.

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | Black History Month

1387.782

Oh, damn.

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | Black History Month

719.982

You end up coming out of prison and there is no bitterness. How is there no bitterness?

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

Jon Stewart on Trump’s 3rd Term Plans & Signalgate Lack of Accountability | Oren Cass

651.917

I'm wondering if you feel as the leader of the Defense Department you have any level of responsibility.

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | 4/20

1108.052

This is the second time. So, you, you, I met you backstage now. Yeah. And I got high just meeting you. That's awesome. And I'm not joking, this is the second time. There was one time I was flying out of L.A., and you were ahead of me in the TSA line. Okay. And you had to, like, take everything off. You had, like, hoodies and all that, and you were, like, taking it all off.

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | 4/20

1126.305

And I'm standing behind you. Yeah. And it smelled like every Snoop Dogg album. Yeah, yeah. And I remember on that, I was like, oh, I'm high. And this is like the second time. Is this like, you do this everywhere you go? You inspire people?

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | 4/20

1146.123

Humanitarian. Yeah. That's who Wiz Khalifa is. Before we get into the weed, let's talk about the album, though. Rolling Papers 2. 25 songs on the album. That's a lot of songs. Is that something you always planned? Why did you want to have 25 songs on the album?

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | 4/20

1184.87

Right. And when... Like, when you... Is this, like, weed talk now? Is that what we're doing?

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | 4/20

1193.961

It's been seven years since your first studio album, Rolling Papers. Why has it taken so long? Well...

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | 4/20

1225.157

And people think you're joking about growing pot, but you are really big into the legalization of weed. Absolutely. You have a business, Khalifa Kush. Yes, sir. Right? How is the weed business going? Is it as booming as people say it is? Absolutely.

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | 4/20

1279.197

Oh, before I let you go, I wanted to talk to you about your body. Yeah. The... No, this became a big thing online, you know? Wiz Khalifa was always known for being, like, this scraggly dude. Like, you were really tall. Six foot four, I think. You started working out, man.

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | 4/20

1297.691

You put on, what, 30 pounds? 30 pounds, absolutely. You look like you work out, too, man. No, I just eat.

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | 4/20

1319.315

So the new album is out. Are we going to wait another seven years for the next one? Do we know? Is it like, is it going to be Khalifa Kush all the way and then an album? Or do you see yourself on the road writing something new?

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | How Not to Celebrate MLK Day

1299.416

Explore more shows from The Daily Show podcast universe by searching The Daily Show, wherever you get your podcasts. Watch The Daily Show weeknights at 11, 10 Central on Comedy Central, and stream full episodes anytime on Paramount+.

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | How Not to Celebrate MLK Day

13.936

Since The Daily Show finally hired a black host, we can properly celebrate Martin Luther King Day by asking New Yorkers how they celebrate his legacy. Shut up! Don't interrupt me on Martin Luther King Day. That ain't cool. So, let's do this. Do y'all know what today is?

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | How Not to Celebrate MLK Day

141.664

I have a dream that one day white people will actually know what's in that damn speech. Okay, just name five black people. Eddie Murphy. That's the only black person you know? Eddie Murphy?

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | How Not to Celebrate MLK Day

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Who the is Byron Leftwich? Byron Leftwich is in the NFL as an offensive line coach. Don't nobody know him. You're just making up names now. So how you celebrate Martin Luther King? Um, not too sure. So that's what he died for, man? For you just to be out here just not doing nothing on his day? No, I'm just kidding. You can do whatever you want, man. You black. We're going to go see the Lion King.

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TDS Time Machine | How Not to Celebrate MLK Day

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OK. It's got King in the tie. I mean, that's as close as you can get. I'll take it. The freedom and liberty to go about and do what we want to do, that's our celebration. See, that's a quote from a black woman right there.

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TDS Time Machine | How Not to Celebrate MLK Day

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We still need lotion though.

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | How Not to Celebrate MLK Day

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We're lost day? Do you know what day it is today?

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TDS Time Machine | How Not to Celebrate MLK Day

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What did you do today? Well, today we just woke up. We just checked out of our hotel.

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | How Not to Celebrate MLK Day

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We haven't done much. We're going to go get coffee, and we're going to walk around. So which one of those celebrates Martin Luther King Day? Well, none of what we've talked about so far. 232 push-ups for Martin. So this ain't reparations, but this is enough. That's right. Give me one hand once!

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | How Not to Celebrate MLK Day

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What y'all doing to celebrate MLK? Came to New York. Came to New York? That's it? That's all y'all gonna do?

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | How Not to Celebrate MLK Day

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All right, I'm gonna come back to y'all on Juneteenth. And y'all better have done better. Don't you like when he, like, you know, refused to move to the back of the bus?

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | How Not to Celebrate MLK Day

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He didn't refuse. That was Rosa Parks. Was it? Name a famous MLK quote. I have a dream.

The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | How Not to Celebrate MLK Day

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I have a dream. And what does he say after that? I'm not sure. Name a famous MLK quote. Besides, I have a dream. Besides, I have a dream. I will pay you $1 million if you can tell me something else that Martin Luther King said.

The Dan Bongino Show

President Trump Did More In A Day Than Others Did In Two Terms (Ep. 2406)

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Based on your initial schedule, that today, roundups of criminal illegal aliens in the process of deporting them would begin. That seems to have been put on hold for a little while. When can we expect that to happen? Where will it begin?

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Dan Bongino Wasn’t Bluffing: Cutesy Time Is OVER At FBI | Episode 3

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You consider this an act of domestic terrorism?

The Dan Bongino Show

Dan Bongino Wasn’t Bluffing: Cutesy Time Is OVER At FBI | Episode 3

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Meanwhile, it's because of Elon Musk. Everything he did.

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Dan Bongino Wasn’t Bluffing: Cutesy Time Is OVER At FBI | Episode 3

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Meanwhile, it's because of Elon Musk. Everything he did with SpaceX that those astronauts, stranded for nine months, they're finally coming home. Mr. President, your reaction to what's unfolding?

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Dan Bongino Wasn’t Bluffing: Cutesy Time Is OVER At FBI | Episode 3

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Look at this amazing moment. Off the coast of Tallahassee, Florida.

The Dan Bongino Show

Things Have Changed, It's Trump's GOP Now (Ep. 2390)

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Do you plan on supporting the speaker in January?

The Dan Bongino Show

Things Have Changed, It's Trump's GOP Now (Ep. 2390)

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The other thing that I put in the book that I recommended the boss to do hits on this. We need a 24-7 declassification office. Yes. Rolling papers out 24-7. And not just like JFK and not just 9-11. You're talking to the guy that's read the whole 9-11 report and those seven pages that people talk about.

The Dan Bongino Show

Things Have Changed, It's Trump's GOP Now (Ep. 2390)

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But I believe as like the guy who is an intel guy who believes wholeheartedly in the classified system of information... I believe that it has been over-abused by these corrupt officials in government to hide the truth and enact more corrupt activities. So what I told the boss was like, I don't care what you call it, truth and reconciliation, whatever, come up with a better name.

The Dan Bongino Show

Things Have Changed, It's Trump's GOP Now (Ep. 2390)

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But every agency and department literally submits all of their documentation. And I believe you could get half out. Half. I still think the other half needs to remain classified. I'll always argue that it does serve a purpose. But like you're seeing in these documents in the Jack Smith case, they're just redacting stuff that they lied about, that they broke the law.

The Dan Bongino Show

Things Have Changed, It's Trump's GOP Now (Ep. 2390)

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There were some anti-Trump sentiments going on among GOP voters during his first term. What does it look like now for his second?

The Dan Bongino Show

Things Have Changed, It's Trump's GOP Now (Ep. 2390)

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Should senators who oppose your nominees, your cabinet nominees, should they be primaries?

The Dan Bongino Show

The Trump and Elon Tag Team Rock The Deep State (Ep. 2421)

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Tom Homan. Tom, where are these leaks coming from?

The Dan Bongino Show

The Trump and Elon Tag Team Rock The Deep State (Ep. 2421)

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Your detractors, Mr. Musk, including a lot of Democrats. I have detractors? You do, sir. I don't believe it. Say that you're orchestrating a hostile takeover of government and doing it in a non-transparent way. What's your response to that criticism?

The Dan Bongino Show

Is China Ready To Make A Deal? | Episode 38

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We are leaving wokeness and weakness behind. No more pronouns, no more climate change obsession, no more emergency vaccine mandates, no more dudes in dresses. We're done with that shit.

The Dan Bongino Show

Is China Ready To Make A Deal? | Episode 38

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What did you make of those scenes in the Oval Office? President Trump and President Zelensky?

The Dan Bongino Show

Is China Ready To Make A Deal? | Episode 38

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Should you have withdrawn earlier, given someone else a bigger job?

The Dan Bongino Show

Is China Ready To Make A Deal? | Episode 38

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Regrets, though?

The Dan Bongino Show

Is China Ready To Make A Deal? | Episode 38

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I see, so he disagreed with you on that?

The Dan Bongino Show

The Deep State Purge Intensifies (Ep. 2439)

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Should former President Trump still receive intelligence briefings?

The Dan Bongino Show

The Deep State Purge Intensifies (Ep. 2439)

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I mean, you've called him an existential threat. You've called him dangerous. You've called him reckless.

The Dan Bongino Show

The Deep State Purge Intensifies (Ep. 2439)

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What's your worst fear if he continues to get these intelligence briefings?

The Dan Bongino Show

The Biggest FBI Scandal In History Is Unfolding (Ep. 2395)

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You obviously give a long leash to your fighters about what they can say when they are up there with a UFC microphone and you are getting into territory of homophobia, transphobia.

The Dan Bongino Show

The Biggest FBI Scandal In History Is Unfolding (Ep. 2395)

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I was asking that question. I'll move on, though.

The Dan Bongino Show

The Biggest FBI Scandal In History Is Unfolding (Ep. 2395)

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Thank you, PhD Weight Loss.

The Dan Bongino Show

The Biggest FBI Scandal In History Is Unfolding (Ep. 2395)

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I love their pillows. They're pretty amazing. Check them out. We love MyPillow.

The Dan Bongino Show

Does This Move Mean Justice Is Finally Coming? | Episode 29

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Chairman Durbin, can I ask you a quick question? Why won't you subpoena Jeffrey Epstein's flight logs?

The Dan Bongino Show

Does This Move Mean Justice Is Finally Coming? | Episode 29

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But why won't you subpoena them? Why don't you want to know?

The Dan Bongino Show

Does This Move Mean Justice Is Finally Coming? | Episode 29

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Well, he was charged with sex trafficking, so why don't you want to know who was utilizing his private plane?

The Dan Bongino Show

Does This Move Mean Justice Is Finally Coming? | Episode 29

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Senator Blackburn has wanted to subpoena them, and there hasn't been a vote in your committee.

The Dan Bongino Show

Does This Move Mean Justice Is Finally Coming? | Episode 29

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But aren't you curious what high-profile or powerful people might be closeted predators and pedophiles? Doesn't that concern you?

The Dan Bongino Show

Does This Move Mean Justice Is Finally Coming? | Episode 29

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So why won't you subpoena them if you can?

The Dan Bongino Show

Does This Move Mean Justice Is Finally Coming? | Episode 29

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So are you curious about it? Will you do it?

The Dan Bongino Show

Does This Move Mean Justice Is Finally Coming? | Episode 29

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What are you doing, Mr. President?

The Dan Bongino Show

Freedom Is Winning, And The Libs Are Pulling Their Hair Out (Ep. 2407)

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Do you think there should be more than two genders in America?

The Dan Bongino Show

Freedom Is Winning, And The Libs Are Pulling Their Hair Out (Ep. 2407)

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Donald Trump says there's male and female.

The Dan Bongino Show

Freedom Is Winning, And The Libs Are Pulling Their Hair Out (Ep. 2407)

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First day on the job, President Trump signed an executive order, you know, the U.S. government only recognizing two genders, male, female. They're unchangeable. You know, if elected as prime minister, is that something that you're going to kind of walk in line with? Or what are your feelings on that executive order?

The Dan Bongino Show

Freedom Is Winning, And The Libs Are Pulling Their Hair Out (Ep. 2407)

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Me personally? I'm just asking more so if you're in line with what he is saying. Do you agree with what he's saying? Is that something that you would be lockstep with if elected as prime minister?

The Dan Bongino Show

Freedom Is Winning, And The Libs Are Pulling Their Hair Out (Ep. 2407)

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Well, there's... Personally, I am a man. I am, as people who say, a cis man. There are people there who, you know, they say they're gender neutral. You are a man, yes. There are people out there who say they're gender neutral.

The Dan Bongino Show

Freedom Is Winning, And The Libs Are Pulling Their Hair Out (Ep. 2407)

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Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host, Dan Bongino.

The Dan Bongino Show

Freedom Is Winning, And The Libs Are Pulling Their Hair Out (Ep. 2407)

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And that's why more people are watching the Cartoon Network Spongebob reruns right now.

The Dan Bongino Show

Freedom Is Winning, And The Libs Are Pulling Their Hair Out (Ep. 2407)

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You just heard the Dan Bongino Show.

The Dan Bongino Show

A Turning Point In The Tariff War | Episode 39

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There was one other moment when Kash Patel, you are failing at what you're trying to do. Your reaction?

The Dan Bongino Show

Another Phony Narrative Crumbles + First Show In The New Studio! (Ep. 2437)

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Do you agree with that assessment that Donald Trump is the only thing that's needed to change the circumstances at the border?

The Dan Bongino Show

Another Phony Narrative Crumbles + First Show In The New Studio! (Ep. 2437)

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Why weren't they great? Why weren't they great?

The Dan Bongino Show

The Democrat Party Is Falling Apart | Episode 6 - 03/24/25

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You know, a lot of people did vote for him. Yes. Do you accept their right to do that and their opinion of him?

The Dan Bongino Show

The Democrat Party Is Falling Apart | Episode 6 - 03/24/25

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Do you agree is the United States in a constitutional crisis?

The Dan Bongino Show

The Pope Is Dead. And The Supreme Court Is Meddling. | Episode 26

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Yeah, you're right. There hasn't been a court hearing for them to put forward evidence in the first place, which is your whole point. But since you were the one person to have met with him, and since this is a thing, you say on social media, it's what we hear from Donald Trump and Republicans every day, all day long, you didn't ask him?

The Dan Bongino Show

REVEALED: Ed Martin To Pursue The J6 Pipe Bomber And More | Episode 41

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Congresswoman MacGyver, I want to go back to some of the footage. We were looking at some. And I want our viewers to see that you are the woman in the red blazer as we show them. DHS says that obviously that there were chaos, that maybe you were trespassing. You can talk about that. But the DHS also says that in their words, you were body slamming an ICE officer. Is that what we're looking at?

The Dan Bongino Show

The Explosive White House Meeting That Changed Everything (Ep. 2434)

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Do you think that Democrats have lost touch with the working class voters? And do you have any suggestions as to how they could potentially start to remedy that?

The Dan Bongino Show

The Explosive White House Meeting That Changed Everything (Ep. 2434)

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One of the most visible strategies Republican governors adopted during the height of the migrant crisis was sending buses and planes of migrants to blue states like yours. Very memorably, Martha's Vineyard. It was a stunt, but you could argue that it worked. It made immigration enforcement into a blue state issue, which it had not been. Shouldn't it always have been, though? I mean...

The Dan Bongino Show

The Explosive White House Meeting That Changed Everything (Ep. 2434)

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Is it not fair to say that Democrats really did not take this issue seriously?

The Dan Bongino Show

Nightly Scroll - Critics Give Disney’s Feminist “Snow White” a Rotten Apple

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You said you were bringing a modern edge to it on stage. What do you mean by that?

The Dan Bongino Show

Deranged Libs Go All In For Ukraine War and Govt. Corruption (Ep. 2423)

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You believe Putin sees Trump as what you described as an easy mark. You were there for their first meeting in Helsinki. What are your expectations for this one?

The Dan Bongino Show

First Signs That Trump's Tariffs Are Paying Off | Episode 15

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Look, I want to eliminate every single voter registration law. All of them. All of them in every state are bad, right? That's different from voter eligibility. If you're eligible to vote, you should just be able to rock up to the polls and vote. So we could just get rid of all of them. We could just get rid of all of them.

The Dan Bongino Show

First Signs That Trump's Tariffs Are Paying Off | Episode 15

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And the people will say like, oh, well, we can't do that because of voter fraud, right? Well, first of all, and I know this is going to be hard for some listeners who spend a lot of time listening to Republican lies, but... Voter fraud does not exist. I love how you wrote that down in the book. Voter fraud just doesn't exist. It's not a real thing.

The Dan Bongino Show

First Signs That Trump's Tariffs Are Paying Off | Episode 15

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We shouldn't make laws based on protecting us from things that don't exist because their goal is not to secure elections because, again, voter fraud doesn't exist. Their goal is to restrict people from voting.

The Dan Bongino Show

First Signs That Trump's Tariffs Are Paying Off | Episode 15

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South Africa got over apartheid. Did they just go back to their Afrikaner Racist constitution be like oh, we just need a couple of amendments.

The Dan Bongino Show

First Signs That Trump's Tariffs Are Paying Off | Episode 15

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We just need a couple of changes here to make work No, they threw the whole thing out and started again this time asking everybody this time having a completely new delegation of all of the people of South Africa not just the white folks but not no white folks and they came up with a new constitutions one of the reasons why the South African Constitution is generally thought of as one of the best constitutions in the world is

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First Signs That Trump's Tariffs Are Paying Off | Episode 15

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and ours continues to be a piece of crap.

The Dan Bongino Show

First Signs That Trump's Tariffs Are Paying Off | Episode 15

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So he's not going to back off of what he announced yesterday?

The Dan Bongino Show

Producer's Picks: Bongino's Best Segments - 01/03/25

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Just one more on this. Did they offer you a cabinet position, a lower position, and offer to pay off any of your campaign debt?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Hubris

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I have to ask about Robert Kraft because 24 years together, six Super Bowls. Unless I'm wrong, he's not in this book. How come?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Hubris

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Correct. Do you feel like you were treated with dignity and respect when you were let go by Robert Kraft?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Hubris

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The other change for Belichick is 24-year-old Jordan Hudson, his creative muse, as he writes in his book.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Hubris

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Jordan was a constant presence during our interview. How did you guys meet?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Hubris

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No? No. It's a topic neither one of them is comfortable commenting on, though Hudson has recently posted about it on Instagram. You joined Instaface, as you put it. I love that. There's some great pictures of you and Jordan where you're a fisherman and she's a mermaid. It's charming. It's a different side of you. What's the reaction been like?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Hubris

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What's it been like to have these different sort of photos? There's another one where you're doing, I know you're not into meditation or yoga or Pilates. You're balancing Jordan on your feet. She's doing kind of the Titanic pose.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 1: Perception Is Not Reality

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I took my son to the barbershop to get a haircut and my man gave out some limp dap. Oh no. Damn, damn, damn. Stugatz! I disowned him. I threw him right under the bus. I was like, whose kid is that out here dishing out limp dap? This is the Don Labrador Show with the Stugatz.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 1: Perception Is Not Reality

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So first of all, the sound issue was completely on my side, so don't blame anybody, don't fire anybody. I will take full responsibility. Your crack team in the video room and in the shipping container did an outstanding job. But the thing that I wanted to address was the conversation that we're having about the commissioners in the league. I think...

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 1: Perception Is Not Reality

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Wir machen das oft, und ich habe gehört, dass Bill Simmons das tut und viele andere, die sagen, dass es anders wäre, wenn David Stern im Büro wäre. Aber ich glaube, wir haben es nicht verstanden, wie anders die Verhältnisse sind und waren. Als David Stern die Liga gewonnen hat, waren sie im Grunde eine Start-up und die Jungs machten Das sind weniger als 1 Mio. Dollar.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 1: Perception Is Not Reality

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Ich denke, die Power-Dynamik in Leeds hat sich geändert, sodass man nicht mehr der hübsche Kommissionär sein kann, den die Leute wünschen, dass wir hätten. Ich sage also nicht, dass Adam Silver einen fantastischen Job gemacht hat. Ich denke, dass die Strategie, was er genommen hätte, wird einfach anders sein.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 1: Perception Is Not Reality

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Und wenn David Stern immer noch der Kommissionär der Liga wäre, bin ich mir nicht sicher, dass die Iron Fist, die wir denken, dass die Jungs in die Linie fallen hätten, funktioniert hätten, wenn die Jungs 100 Millionen von Nike verdienen, wenn sie in die Liga steigen.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 1: Perception Is Not Reality

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Und wenn Adam Silver überging, und ich denke, wir werden das später auf meinem Show überlegen, aber wenn Adam Silver überging, war LeBron James bereits LeBron James. Also bin ich mir nicht sicher, dass Dinge anders werden würden. Ich glaube, das ist mein einziger Punkt.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 1: Perception Is Not Reality

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Ja, ich denke, die NFL und NBA sind sehr anders in der Art und Weise, wie sie funktionieren. Und ich denke, die Spieler der NFL und der Spieler der NBA fallen politisch in verschiedene Orte, und sie fallen auch in verschiedene Orte, in deren Willen, in die Linie zu fallen.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 1: Perception Is Not Reality

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Ich denke, das eine, was wir über Basketballspieler gelernt haben, und es ist nicht, ich denke, manchmal kommen diese Dinge als Kritik, aber die Spieler selbst wurden die Franchise. A while ago. This is the culmination of the process that started when the league started promoting Bird and Magic. Now we're at the point where we have LeBron fans, not Heat fans or not Cav fans.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 1: Perception Is Not Reality

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And I think there are still some local fan bases that matter, but we all recognize that the players are why we tune in. And as much as we love quarterbacks, we'll tune in for a defensive battle. We'll tune in when the promo picture is TJ Watt versus Miles Garrett. I'm watching that. Ich denke, die Spieler erkennen, dass sie nicht den gleichen Wunsch haben.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 1: Perception Is Not Reality

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Mit den NBA-Spielern, die generell mehr progressiv als die NFL-Spieler sind und definitiv mehr berühmt und wertvoller sind und mehr Einfluss haben, Es ist nicht wahr, dass man die gleichen Spielbücher wie in der NFL auswählen könnte. Ich denke, sie sind einer der Gruppen, die wir als Partner nennen, die mit den Partnern der Liga näher sind und so behandelt werden müssen.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 1: Perception Is Not Reality

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Und sie an Bord zu bringen, ist viel anders, als ihnen zu sagen, was zu tun ist.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 1: Perception Is Not Reality

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Ich denke, es ist nur ein Anliegen. Es ist wie ein einfacher Wirtschaftler. Und ich weiß, dass Dan gerne über Wirtschaften spricht, aber wie ein einfacher Wirtschaftler Argument ist, dass man die Interessen der Menschen mit der stärksten Macht mit der der Liga übertragen will. Und ich denke, es ist sehr schwierig. In der Vergangenheit war es klar, wo die Interessen aufgerufen wurden.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 1: Perception Is Not Reality

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Die Jungs machten nicht viel Geld, also wächst die Liga und erhöht die Wertung der Liga, damit die Jungs in den 90ern, in den frühen 2000ern mehr Geld machen würden. Wir sind jetzt in einer Situation, wo Jungs in die Liga gehen, die viel Geld von der Liga machen und auch von ihren Schuhpartnern und all diesen Dingen.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 1: Perception Is Not Reality

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Das ist der größte Herausforderung, dass ihre Interessen mit den Interessen der Liga verbunden sind. Und ich denke, die NFL ist anders. Und diese Spieler sind viel mehr wie Mitarbeiter, als die Basketballspieler sind.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 1: Perception Is Not Reality

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Und Mitarbeiter, die wissen, dass ihre Karrieren kurz werden werden, und wissen, dass sie einen kurzen Zeitraum haben, um Geld zu verdienen, und wissen, dass sie immanent verwendbar sind, verhalten sich viel anders als Leute, die sagen, sie haben den ganzen Weltraum gescoutet. To find someone half as good as me. You're not going to tell me what to do. You're just not going to do it.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 1: Perception Is Not Reality

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And so you need them to be internally aligned with your interests. And that's a hard thing to pull off, which is why when people talk trash about how terrible all our commissioners are, I'm like... Job's pretty damn hard. Pretty hard.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

PTFO - The Jordon Rules: An Exclusive PTFO Investigation

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Mm-hmm. Coach, thank you for doing this. You're probably thinking the same thing I was when I sat down with Bill Belichick.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

PTFO - The Jordon Rules: An Exclusive PTFO Investigation

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Do you remember how you got the cut here? No. Tattered and, yes, often sleeveless, Belichick's signature look is part of his singular focus.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

PTFO - The Jordon Rules: An Exclusive PTFO Investigation

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Jordan was a constant presence during our interview. You have Jordan right over there.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

PTFO - The Jordon Rules: An Exclusive PTFO Investigation

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They've got an opinion about your private life. It's got nothing to do with them, but they're invested in it.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

Menopause Expert: Belly Fat Grows During Menopause! Your Estrogen Levels Are Controlling You & This Hormone Is Quietly Killing Your Sex Life!

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I would like to make a deal with you. If you could do me a huge favor and hit that subscribe button, I will work tirelessly from now until forever to make the show better and better and better and better. I can't tell you how much it helps when you hit that subscribe button.

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Menopause Expert: Belly Fat Grows During Menopause! Your Estrogen Levels Are Controlling You & This Hormone Is Quietly Killing Your Sex Life!

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Menopause Expert: Belly Fat Grows During Menopause! Your Estrogen Levels Are Controlling You & This Hormone Is Quietly Killing Your Sex Life!

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It's pretty crazy that you're a doctor, but you don't know this part of health. I mean, how are you going to help anybody if you don't fully understand health from a more sort of holistic perspective?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

Menopause Expert: Belly Fat Grows During Menopause! Your Estrogen Levels Are Controlling You & This Hormone Is Quietly Killing Your Sex Life!

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About the medical system. So step one was awareness. What was step two?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

Menopause Expert: Belly Fat Grows During Menopause! Your Estrogen Levels Are Controlling You & This Hormone Is Quietly Killing Your Sex Life!

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trying things on yourself and then measuring. That's right. When we think of cortisol, which was the first sort of marker that you saw was elevated, we think of stress. So we think we get cortisol if we're stressed. So my brain, my very naive brain said, well, you just need to be less stressed, Sarah. So you should just go on a holiday and then your cortisol will come down.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

Menopause Expert: Belly Fat Grows During Menopause! Your Estrogen Levels Are Controlling You & This Hormone Is Quietly Killing Your Sex Life!

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And if my body's making too much cortisol and my levels are too high, what is the harm?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

Menopause Expert: Belly Fat Grows During Menopause! Your Estrogen Levels Are Controlling You & This Hormone Is Quietly Killing Your Sex Life!

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What are the things in the world at the moment that are messing up our hormones? Because the subject matter of hormones has become increasingly popular. And I know that there's hormones like cortisol, which we've talked about, testosterone, estrogen, progesterone, insulin, glucose. What are the big things that are like messing up our hormones at the moment?

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Because I want to make sure my hormones are in check. So I'm a guy. I'm sure that some of these hormones and things like estrogen have, I think, more pertinent to women.

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And what does that mean, a healer? Because that's a broad term, so that could mean many things.

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You asked if I'm noticing that. I mean, the more digital the world has become, I think I've seen more dysregulation and we're obviously moving further in that direction at rapid speed, especially with things like AI now and algorithms getting more smart and addictive.

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So I see that. Also, there's just been a change in... I think the algorithms, the social media algorithms will compete with themselves to see who can hold you the most. And to do that, they have to kind of grab your attention. And the easiest ways to grab your attention is by showing you things that are probably dysregulating.

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So if you had to come into my life and you had to optimize my life to make sure that all my hormones were in check, you would get rid of plastics and toxins from my everyday life, my bathroom, et cetera.

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And for anybody that doesn't know, it's the little patch you put on your arm and it tells you your blood sugar levels in real time straight to your phone. Sugar. Is sugar the enemy?

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And when you say healing, if someone came to you and they said, how do you heal people? What would your answer be?

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When you're treating patients, do you focus heavily on their blood sugar levels?

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Which is called ATP? ATP, yeah. And that ATP then drives what it drives our everything we do.

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And are there any supplements that I should be taking if I'm trying to optimize my hormonal balance?

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When you look at people's biomarkers and their blood samples, what are the things that you like typically always see that are deficient? Because I'm sure there's things from a social level that we're just all kind of getting wrong.

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But you believe many of the symptoms of menopause are avoidable? Yes.

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Because he's got too much glucose and he's not doing enough with it.

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And what was your training? So can you talk me through your sort of academic journey?

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Dr. Sara Sal is the Harvard-trained physician and hormone expert who's unlocking the science and simple tricks behind feeling your best, no matter your age.

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So if I'm a man or a woman and I want to get my testosterone levels in order and I don't want to inject myself with testosterone, are there natural ways, easy ways, for me to get my testosterone balanced?

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So then if I'm a woman with polycystic ovary syndrome and my testosterone is high, doesn't that mean I want to increase my cortisol?

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Exercise. I'm currently eating like a ketogenic diet, so my carbohydrate level is extremely low. Does that mean my testosterone levels are going to be low?

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Let's talk about estrogen then, because I was under the impression that only women had estrogen, but you're telling me that it's an important hormone for men as well. It is. Why is it so important for both sexes? What does it do?

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How many people do you think you've treated or seen or worked with directly in your career?

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Does it have a role in weight distribution in my body? Yeah. So where are the fat stores and stuff?

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And if you had to try and summarize maybe the top three or five things that you're doing for them, what would you say?

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And muscle resistance training, strength training is the optimal way to dispose of glucose, right?

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This one change has transformed how my team and iMove train and think about our bodies. When Dr. Daniel Lieberman came on the Diary of a CEO, he explained how modern shoes, with their cushioning and support, are making our feet weaker and less capable of doing what nature intended them to do. We've lost the natural strength and mobility in our feet, and this is leading to issues like back pain.

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and knee pain. I'd already purchased a pair of Viva Barefoot shoes so I showed them to Daniel Lieberman and he told me that they were exactly the type of shoe that would help me restore natural foot movement and rebuild my strength.

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But I think it was plantar fasciitis that I had where suddenly my feet started hurting all the time and after that I decided to start strengthening my own foot by using the Viva Barefoot. And research from Liverpool University has backed this up. They've shown that wearing Viva Barefoot shoes for six months can increase foot strength by up to 60%.

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Visit vivobarefoot.com slash DOAC and use code DOAC20 for 20% off. That's vivobarefoot.com slash DOAC. Use code DOAC20. A strong body starts with strong feet. What role is fibre playing in all of this? Because a lot of people are talking about fibre at the moment and saying that we're fibre deficient.

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And what role is the microbiome playing in my hormone function?

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And a lot of that starts in this course by the gut microbiome.

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What kind of foods have high fiber? Is it like broccoli and stuff?

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Because in your book, there's this chapter called the keto paradox.

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Is there a danger to women doing ketosis? Because you said their periods are going to become irregular.

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Is there anything else that the ketogenic diet might be doing to my hormones, like my testosterone or my other hormones that is worth noting? Because I'm super, you know, I'm wondering whether to stay on the ketogenic diet for a long period of time. I typically do it for a couple of weeks a year, but I'm wondering if this is something that I could do for like a year or maybe longer.

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Have you seen people that stay on it for years and have good biomarkers?

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If I'm trying to lose weight, is there an optimal approach to take? Because the ketogenic diet has been the fastest way I've ever discovered of losing weight quickly. But if you're a man or woman trying to lose weight, specifically like that annoying weight, the belly fats, those kinds of things, someone comes to you and says that, what do you say to them?

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When people come to you and they're asking questions about hormones these days, you must have seen in your career a shift in interest on the subject of hormones, but also a certain area of hormonal health that people have a greater obsession with. Of all the subjects we've talked about today relating to hormones, what is it that people are most interested in right now?

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And for anyone that doesn't know what perimenopause is, when does that begin and what is it?

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And what is the youngest you've ever seen someone enter perimenopause?

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Because when a woman goes to a doctor now, that doctor might say, well, you're getting older. This is what happens. Or they might just completely miss it. That's right.

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How long were you married for? How long were you in a relationship with your partner?

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How does one know that it's not right anymore after 20 odd years?

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And is that not something that can be prepared through communication and therapy or sitting down?

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You have a very diverse experience as a doctor slash healer. It feels like you've really had a lot of sort of reference points in your career that you've drawn upon. And ultimately, you became the director of precision medicine at the Marcus Institute in Philadelphia? That's correct. Precision medicine, that term. How does that differ from conventional medicine?

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When people hear that, that weren't in your situation, they might think, Okay, so maybe he was preoccupied with something else or he worked away. When you say the word lonely, these are the kind of things we think of proximity. But you're saying it, I'm guessing it wasn't proximity.

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When you look back, is there something that... could have been done further upstream to prevent you getting to this place in your view?

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Just for a second, I want to talk about a company I've invested in and who sponsored this podcast called Zoe. Like me, many of you are big on tracking your fitness and your sleep. But how many of you understand how your body handles food? Metabolic fitness is all about understanding your metabolism's response to food. And we all react differently.

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And if one, you mean where that individual is the study, they are the experiment. That's correct. You're not looking at broad sample sizes. What is wrong with conventional medicine? You use the term that it's broken. What is wrong about that approach?

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And polarity exists in all kinds of relationships as well, doesn't it, to some degree? Yeah.

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When you say polarity, if we're talking about heterosexual relationships, what is the polarity that you think we've lost?

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I think probably the answer is that everybody has their own favorite flavor of ice cream. And I can only speak to my favorite flavor of ice cream, which is I like... I don't like vanilla ice cream. It's not my favorite flavor. And I think I do like to be more dominant. That turns me on. And I like to vary it because I'll get bored.

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Especially if you're in a long relationship, you've got to fucking find some way to spice it up. Yes, you do. I'm buying all kinds of stuff off the internet to try and, you know, keep it novel and new.

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Are we? Yes. Well, I honestly, I landed here in LA and before I even landed, I ordered loads of stuff just to be at the house when I got here. Fantastic. It's funny because my team are listening. No, but I do because I'm like, I have, I have, I like try and plan sex to be interesting.

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Because what's the alternative? The alternative is it just fizzles out and gets boring and then it's the same. But also I think I play with distance because of the way my schedule is. So I don't see my partner for a couple of weeks and then we see each other and then we go away again. And so it kind of keeps it a little bit more novel and stuff and interesting.

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I try and make sure that I stay attractive. I told, I said part of the reason I go to the gym every day is because We signed a contract, not a real contract, but we signed a contract when we met each other that we'd stay attractive and that's intellectually attractive. That's physically attractive. It's whatever. So, so yeah, I think a lot about it.

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Is this in part why you knew the old relationship wasn't working?

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And you tried to revive, keep alive. Yes, yes. People can relate. I know this because I see much of the feedback I get on the episodes where we talk about sex. People often are struggling with a dying, whimpering sex life. Again, I ask you, is there anything that can be done? Is it prevention? Is that the key here?

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Or is it about making sure you're in a relationship with someone who's sexually open-minded? And I also, I guess the third question here would be, was it ever good?

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Quality time, deep questions. Yes. The conversation cards. Oh, yes. Tell me about that. Well, we sell these conversation cards on this show. You can check in the description below if you want to buy them. But basically, at the end of the conversations on this podcast, the guests write a question in this diary in front of me for the next guest. And then these will become... Yeah, thanks.

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These will become conversation cards. Unlock deeper levels of connection. Open up to open up. Level three is the more deep questions.

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You strike me as a level three person. You really do. But those kinds of things. So like deep questions and spending time.

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Yeah, here are all your level threes. What is the most important thing we haven't talked about that we should have talked about? Is there anything else? Sleep is something we didn't talk about. When we think about the impact sleep has on our hormonal balance... Is it important?

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On my ketogenic diet, I noticed that my heart rate variability seems to go lower, which is scary. Do you see that a lot when people do these kind of more restrictive diets and they're in ketosis?

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Believe it did. I had the results at the time, but I was sleeping really, really good on it. I still use my Whoop, which hashtag ad. I still use my Whoop for my HRV. What are the things that you aim at when someone comes to you with low HRV? A lot of people want to improve their HRV. You kind of see it as this holy metric now.

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That's why I quit alcohol. Yes. It just killed me. The first time I put my whoop on and I saw the impact it had on my HRV, I thought, I'm not doing that again.

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We have a closing tradition on this podcast, like I said, where the last guest leaves a question for the next guest, not knowing who they're leaving it for. And the question left for you is, what do you do every day to make a better brain and better world?

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Sarah, thank you. Thank you so much for doing the work that you do. You're an incredibly intriguing person in many respects, and you're clearly helping so many people in so many wonderfully important ways. I highly recommend everybody go and check out the books that I have in front of me. There's quite a few of them. I think there's six in total. I've got three here.

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The Autoimmune Cure, Healing the Traumas and Other Triggers That Have Turned Your Body Against You is the book that I'm going to highly recommend. I think this is the new one. And I've interviewed Paul Conte, who writes the recommendation for the book on the back of this. I've also got another book here called The Hormone Cure, which is...

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You used the word hormone balance earlier on. And you said that that's the portal in which people often find you. I really don't know much about hormones. And it's not necessarily something that the average person thinks that they can do much about, I think. Because it's not easy to measure our hormones, is it?

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all about reclaiming balance sleep and sex drive maintaining a healthy weight feeling focused vital and energized naturally and one of the books that i was referencing as we were going which is woman food and hormones a four-week plan to achieve hormonal balance lose weight and feel like yourself again if people want to know more from you they want to hear you you have a new podcast right yes where do we go to listen to your podcast

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We launched these conversation cards and they sold out. And we launched them again and they sold out again. We launched them again and they sold out again. Because people love playing these with colleagues at work, with friends at home, and also with family. And we've also got a big audience that use them as journal prompts.

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Every single time a guest comes on the Diary of a CEO, they leave a question for the next guest in the diary. And I've sat here with some of the most incredible people in the world. And they've left all of these questions in the diary. And I've ranked them from one to three in terms of the depth. One being a starter question.

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And level three, if you look on the back here, this is a level three, becomes a much deeper question that builds even more connection. If you turn the cards over and you scan that QR code, you can see who answered the card and watch the video of them answering it in real time.

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So if you would like to get your hands on some of these conversation cards, go to thediary.com or look at the link in the description below. I find it incredibly fascinating that when we look at the back end of Spotify and Apple and our audio channels, the majority of people that watch this podcast haven't yet hit the follow button or the subscribe button, wherever you're listening to this.

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I would like to make a deal with you. If you could do me a huge favor and hit that subscribe button, I will work tirelessly from now until forever to make the show better and better and better and better. I can't tell you how much it helps when you hit that subscribe button.

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The show gets bigger, which means we can expand the production, bring in all the guests you want to see and continue to do in this thing we love. If you could do me that small favor and hit the follow button, wherever you're listening to this, that would mean the world to me. That is the only favor I will ever ask you. Thank you so much for your time.

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So do we need to heal our bodies in some way to avoid getting some of those diseases?

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We're going to deliver the guests that you want me to speak to and we're going to continue to keep doing all of the things you love about this show. Thank you. Thank you so much. Back to the episode. Chris, you haven't really spoken since the fight, especially not in long form. So I guess the best place to start is just by asking you how you're feeling. That was pretty fucking crazy.

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Chris, everybody has a different relationship with their family. you've always been a seemingly quite emotionless individual, very cold exterior as you've described it yourself. So it's really moving and interesting to hear how much your dad meant to you.

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And as you were speaking, I was thinking about to all these interviews I've seen of you over the years where you cite him as your biggest role model in life. I've kind of got two points. The first, I guess, is a point, which is just, I had no idea he meant that much to you. I had no idea. And secondly, the question is, what caused that relationship to strain?

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What did that letter say that you wrote to him?

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And I thank God for that. Did his absence and hearing him call you a disgrace and all of the stuff he was doing in the media ahead of the fight, in many respects to stop the fight, it seemed at times.

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I actually watched an interview, I think, the day before the fight where he was in tears, saying to a boxing journalist that the fight shouldn't go ahead and expressing his concerns about the fight, etc. Did it impact your mental health?

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I have the actual quote here. You said, the weight is painful. I'll be in even more pain tonight and tomorrow. The question I ask myself is, what is pain? I have a 31-year-old brother that is buried in the desert in Dubai. That's pain. I have his son Rahim, who is three, asking why he can't see his dad. Why doesn't he take me to school? That's pain.

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My own father, a man I've idolized my entire life, and we haven't spoken for years, and he thinks I'm a disgrace. These things are pain to me.

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Chris, you haven't really spoken since that 12th round with Conor. How do you rate your own performance?

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Were you thinking about your younger brother in the buildup to the fight? And as you walked out and during the fight, does that come into your mind?

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Raheem has had a big impact on you.

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Is it out in the public domain, the circumstances around your brother's death?

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Yeah, that was his nickname for anybody.

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With all of this on your mind heading into that fight, I remember before the last fight was cancelled, you were saying that you'd be at 60% for the fight and you'd go in there and beat him. What percentage were you at? And I'm kind of coming back to this question again.

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It's really, I am trying to understand if what I saw was true. Like when I saw you in those first couple of rounds, I'm stood there kind of confused and concerned at ringside because I'm like, this ain't how he used to look. This ain't what you look like in the other fights. In those early rounds, I was like, he doesn't look like he has the same strength and speed.

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Explain this for people who don't know. Explain what weight you were at before the fight, how much weight you cut, and then what the restrictions say you have to do.

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What weight do you walk around at, just for context?

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But if I saw you in the street in like two months' time, what weight would you be at?

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Okay, so 185 pounds. You've got to lose roughly 25 pounds to get in shape for the fight to make weight.

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So you check in at 160 pounds the day before, and the rehydration clause says, is it 8 a.m. the next day you have to weigh again?

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Okay, so 8 and 12, you have to weigh again.

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Yeah, so you can't gain more than £10 overnight, which means you can't be drinking too much or eating too much of what you want to eat.

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If you'd said no to it, would the fight have still gone ahead? Yes. So why didn't you say no to it? Why do you think? They paid you more? Absolutely. Did you get paid an eight-figure number for this fight?

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I'm not doing it for free. You named your price, didn't you? I heard.

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And Turkey said yes. Yes, he did. The first number you named. You fucked up.

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You could have doubled it and then come down and met him halfway.

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Do you get paid on the performance of the fight as well? Or do you just get paid a lump sum? How does it work? Because you called Turkey, His Excellency. You said a big number. He says yes. Do you get incentivized on how the fight does in terms of pay-per-view?

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And so you got part of the performance element as well.

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In my head, I'm trying to figure out how much that one fight made you because... Can you tell me how many multiples it was more than your previous fights? I'm just trying to give me sort of an idea of the scale of this in terms of a financial. I mean, it's eight.

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Yes. How much more of a scale do you need? No, but I mean, I mean, what do you normally get? It's normally getting paid seven figures.

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Okay, fine. So this is like five times more potentially.

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You did look like a man possessed. At moments in the fight, to me, you looked like a man that had nothing left in the tank, but one that was still possessed, as you've kind of said, by something else. Because even when it looked to me like there was no energy left, your arms were still swinging and you were still marching forward. So it was confusing.

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It's always confusing to me because when I feel like that, like, I don't have that reserve tank, which was something else. Like, I actually can't swing my arms.

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There was nothing left. What's going through your head in those moments when you've got no energy, but Connor Benn is in front of you and there's still minutes left in the round? Are you thinking? Is it? Is it conscious?

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Have you got a newfound respect and appreciation for him? Because before the fight, that was certainly not the case.

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Going back to the top of that, you said that you were expecting to walk in there and blow Connor away. So does that mean that you, in hindsight, underestimated his ability? Or was there something not quite right with you that night? Because I was watching. I was ringside. And you didn't look normal, especially in those opening rounds.

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So this really did bother you. I wasn't sure if that was just part of an act to sort of promote the fight. You know, the egg slap, the constantly berating him about this, the voluntary, the doping ban that he had.

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So July, I think it was July 2022 or September 2022, Conor Benn failed two voluntary anti-doping tests for clomiphene, a testosterone-boosting substance, and therefore the original fight was cancelled. The UK Anti-Doping Association formally suspended Connor for a doping violation. They reinstated Connor after citing egg contamination and then reinstated Connor's suspension following an appeal.

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Ultimately, in November 2024, Connor was cleared to fight after the panel ruled that they had failed to prove intentional use. I wasn't sure if you were actually really bothered by this or whether it was part of the promotion of the fight.

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You're going into a fight with extra weaponry. Is it possible that he didn't

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intentionally take something in your view have you considered that do you know for me as just an onlooker i saw him the emotional impact it had on him i saw him in tears i saw him talking about suicidal ideation after that came out and there was part of me that did wonder for a second maybe something did happen because that is the reaction of someone who is truly deeply devastated in a way that

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You had the same dog in you that you've always had, but you didn't look normal.

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an innocent person would be. And imagine if he is innocent. Imagine if he didn't intentionally take something.

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You slapped him with an egg in a press conference beforehand and you were fined £100,000 for that slap with the egg. Do you regret the egg slap?

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So if you'd lost this fight, you would have got paid less. Significantly less.

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You'd lose millions. Millions. If you lose the fight. For sure. Interesting.

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So this rematch clause, if you decided to walk away now, or Conor decided to walk away now, is there any penalty?

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Did you even think that in the day before the fight when you were struggling? Did you even think you were going to blur him out? Even when you were struggling?

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Were there people around you encouraging you or floating the idea of you pulling out of the fight because of your health condition?

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Okay. So does that mean that there is going to be the rematch this year?

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Turkey's already booked the arena, I hear. He's already booked it in September.

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And do you want that fight next?

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Crazy. How much better do you think you could be as a percentage? If ever, you know, dad's back in your corner now. You're going to be a bit more versed in, I guess, preparation and the weight cut or whatever. You said there's pointed out a few things you said you would have done differently.

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Was Conor faster than you were expecting?

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Was he stronger than you were expecting?

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So how does that feel, knowing now that you're getting into the ring again, potentially in September this year, with someone who is absolutely unwilling to quit? That is an absolute dog. That is also learned from you. Is there not an element of you that goes, you know, I'd rather avoid that. I've got eight figures in the bank and, you know, I could buy a boat.

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I could chill or I could go back in that ring with that dog and bust my eye and be back in hospital. I'm going to have to go through the cut weight cut again and dehydration again.

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The fight was legendary. The buildup was legendary, but the walkout was also legendary.

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Yeah, I watched it like 15 times. It was iconic. It made me fall in love with the Dre song again.

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You had Simply the Best as well.

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Which I'm guessing was a last minute addition. Absolutely.

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Your dad requested a song, didn't he?

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And then it dropped into the beat as you started walking. Yeah. It was iconic.

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Hmm. Illness, injury and mental problems.

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And you couldn't hear that the arena had erupted?

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Billy Joe. He tried to get into your dressing room to do your hand wraps, caused a scene outside with our friend Nappa, who I've known a long, long time. Billy Joe. You had a fight with him in the past. Contentious fight. He got the decision in that fight, but it was a contentious fight. How do you feel about Billy Joe?

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Who do you dislike more, Conor Benn or Billy Joe?

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So if you could draw your future, if you could plot your next three fights, and you had to decide right now, what would those next three fights be? In a perfect world.

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Was it, it's a personal issue you're dealing with? Do you know why I'm asking this question? I'm asking this question because as a fight fan, as a fan of yours, I was watching you as the fight began, and I didn't think you were quite yourself. I've been to your fights. I've been to many of your fights. I've watched you in Manchester as well, ringside, and you didn't look the same.

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But then I saw what the founders were replying with and their willingness to reply. And I thought, actually, this is really good. And all you've got to do is sign up completely free. I have to play you this video, which has gone viral. You know this video.

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So now I have this big question mark in my head as to why you didn't look the same. And I'm really determined to try and understand. I know that you weren't in great physical health, but you say there was other things going on in your life. What category were those things in? If you don't, you don't have to tell me what they are.

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What's going on there in that video that I just played?

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know into that industry walk down that path and have to go through all those things that he went through that he worked so hard to kind of keep his family away from so you've got lennox lewis siding with you and that's your mother yeah and she's also trying to persuade him to let you have a shot at boxing when you watch that video now after everything that happened with the fight we just all watched where there was almost 70 000 people in an arena

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people watching all over the world it's been this global phenomenon not just in the uk but i was in america in new york this weekend and it's the people are talking about it there how does it feel to look back at that video uh it's scary man it's scary i mean everything he's saying is right he's completely right you know

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Well, he did put a chip on your shoulder in that regard. For sure. Massive. Massive. I saw the press conference with you and Eddie Hearn and I also saw the one where Eddie Hearn walks off and then Frank Smith comes in. Frank Smith is like your brother-in-law.

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The CEO of Matchroom Boxing is basically your brother-in-law.

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Why didn't you sign to Matchroom? Did you try?

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And you're good with your sister, obviously. Of course. Yeah. Of course. She was there in your corner for the fight.

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I want to ask her that question. We have a closing tradition on this podcast where the last guest leaves a question for the next guest, not knowing who they're leaving it for. And the question left for you is, if you could listen to one album for the rest of your life, what would it be and why?

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Yeah, I guess that would be the album. Chris, thank you so much for giving all of us as boxing fans a moment that we will never forget. I do have to say, I've been to a lot of boxing fights all over the world. And one of my favorite fights was this Lomachenko fight that I saw in New York. But without a shadow of a doubt, that is the best boxing fight I've ever seen in person.

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And not just because of the fight itself, but because of all of the subplots and all of the inspiration it gives everybody. Watching you go into that 12th round with Conor and give everything when it was so abundantly clear that you had nothing in the tank, sends a message to all of us that there's so much more within us that we probably don't always realize.

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And sometimes it takes, you know, the family legacy or something deep and profound and meaningful for us to find that in ourselves. But even as you talked about the, you know, I've had certain challenges with my family over the years and with my parents, with my mother and these kinds of things. And there's been fractures and years where I was disowned and all these kinds of things.

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And I saw myself in all of that. You know, my mother had some struggles that she went through, which was somewhat similar in elements to the struggles that your father went through. And I know what it feels like. I know what it feels like. So it just gave everybody so much.

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And I'm so glad you've been able to get out onto the streets for the first time since the fight and feel that because you brought so much joy, both of you, both you and Connor, both so much joy, so much inspiration and memories that I will tell my kids about. And I'll say I was there for that fight.

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And I'm so happy for you as well, because I know the career journey you've been on and the twists and turns and everything. So I'm so glad that the public got to know All of you. Not just the cold-faced guy that, you know, throws a good uppercut, but the human as well.

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And it's in part, I think, because of some of the difficult moments you've been through, that you've stepped out a little bit more and become more comfortable with showing the world all that you are. And that's the most valuable, Chris, that I think the world can see. So thank you. Really, really appreciative.

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And I can't wait to see these next couple of fights you have as you close out what has been a remarkable career. Thank you. This has always blown my mind a little bit. 53% of you that listen to this show regularly haven't yet subscribed to this show. So could I ask you for a favor?

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We'll find the guests that you want me to speak to and we'll continue to do what we do. Thank you so much.

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What did that letter say? Quick one before we get back to this episode. Just give me 30 seconds of your time. Two things I wanted to say. The first thing is a huge thank you for listening and tuning into the show week after week. It means the world to all of us. And this really is a dream that we absolutely never had and couldn't have imagined getting to this place.

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So by age 40, we have lost about 50% of our ability to produce nitric oxide in our blood vessels. And we lose 10% to 12% of nitric oxide production per decade. This is all according to your book. And by age 70 to 80, nitric oxide levels in blood vessels can be 75% lower than in young adults.

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But secondly, it's a dream where we feel like we're only just getting started. And if you enjoy what we do here, please join the 24% of people that listen to this podcast regularly and follow us on this app. Here's a promise I'm going to make to you. I'm going to do everything in my power to make this show as good as I can now and into the future.

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A Japanese study found a 75% reduction in nitric oxide production in people aged 70 to 80 compared to 20-year-olds. Interesting. So in terms of chronic disease that is downstream from me losing nitric oxide level, can you give me a bit of a menu of chronic disease that is associated with this nitric oxide deficiency?

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if you can get it administered therapeutically to patients early enough?

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We're going to deliver the guests that you want me to speak to, and we're going to continue to keep doing all of the things you love about this show. Thank you. Thank you so much. Back to the episode. Dr. Nathan Bryan, you have committed much of your life to writing about and educating people on a subject that I know absolutely nothing about.

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Is there something you believe that the traditional world of medicine and maybe the traditional media don't believe.

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I say this because I was listening to your interview before, and there were several moments in the interview where you'd reference that. You'd say things like, they don't want you to know this, or they won't tell you this.

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But from doing the research for today, I'm pretty shocked that I don't know more about this subject. So for those people who have just clicked to listen to this conversation, can you tell them the mission you're on and why it's so important?

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Despite spending nearly 20% of the United States GDP on healthcare, the US ranks last overall on health outcomes among high income countries, including having the highest infant mortality rates and lowest life expectancy. It's like unbelievable.

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It's important for us to just make a distinction between nitric gas that people inhale. And if you played some of those racing car games, you press a button and the car goes really fast. That's nitrous. Nitrous, yeah. These are two separate things.

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And according to the data, Americans are spending about 13 years of their life living with disease, and that is significantly higher than many other high-income Western countries. So although life expectancy might be 78, 80 years old, you're going to spend almost 15 years of that time living with disease. So your health span...

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is really probably the more important thing to be focusing on, not your lifespan. And so when we talk about nitric oxide, I've heard you describe it as the molecule of longevity. For sure. Why do you say that? Why do you say that?

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So these stem cells are cells that can basically act as like band-aids, repairs for any part of our body.

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You know Brian Johnson, don't you? Yes. What do you think of Brian Johnson?

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He seems to be a fan of the role of nitric oxide as it relates to longevity there. He seems to have said positive things about nitric oxide and its impact on improving your cardiovascular health.

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Is there such thing as having too much nitric oxide though? Because if people hear this conversation today and they rush out and they, I don't know, overdo their nitric oxide by doing a bunch of therapies, is that a risk?

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so on this point of longevity then one of the points you mentioned there was telomere length and i've heard about telomere length because i've heard about studies they've done in rats and i think other rodents around telomere length so it was discovered that individuals with shorter telomeres had a death rate nearly twice of those with longer telomeres and you're telling me that there has been research done that shows how nitric oxide can increase telomere length

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Okay, so nitric oxide has an impact on the telomerase... Telomerase enzyme, that's right. Telomerase enzyme.

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Okay, and just for people that don't understand, with every replication, as we age, we're continually replicating ourselves to restore and repair them. But in that replication process... harm is occurred sometimes.

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The other thing that I wanted to talk to you about before we really get into the heart of how do I improve my nitric oxide levels or keep them at a healthy range while I age is nitric oxide's relationship with the oral microbiome.

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I had a conversation on this podcast not too long ago about the oral microbiome. Again, another subject I hadn't thought much about. But is there a relationship there? Yeah.

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We live in a culture where we're constantly trying to kill bacteria, right? We're like, especially post-pandemic, we're using all kinds of hand washes and antiseptics and obviously the big, I guess, chemicals that we all typically use are things like mouthwashes, which are, again, trying to just clean out all the bacteria from our mouths. Well, how would you caution someone on using these things?

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And even the antibacterial... Yeah, it's bad news. Really? Yeah. We give it to our children because we want our kids to be clean and not to have... Kids need to be dirty.

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So if you use mouthwash, within seven days your blood pressure goes up.

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And explain to me in layman's terms the mechanism now. What's going on?

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I mean, this graph, which I'll put on the screen for anyone watching, kind of illustrates what you're talking about. And quite notably, this decline seems to start when you're 30 years old, which is how old I am right now.

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So if I don't have a healthy oral microbiome, then... You have an elevation in blood pressure. And much of the things you're talking to me about today in terms of dietary changes won't have any effect anyway because I need the bacteria to convert it into nitric oxide.

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What percentage of cancer patients that you see, that you then refer to a dentist, have an oral infection?

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It's really interesting. I was doing some research in preparation for this conversation around the subject of oral microbiome and cancer and the link there. And one particular study that was done and published in the New York Post, but done by a team of researchers, found that This was done at New York University as well. So it was published by the New York Post and done at New York University.

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They analyzed saliva samples of over 160,000 participants over 15 years. Are you familiar with this study? And they identified over a dozen bacteria species linked to a high risk of head and neck cancers, with certain bacteria increasing the risk by 50% of getting a cancer, which is pretty shocking.

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Literally, I feel like texting my assistant and asking us to book an oral hygienist and to change my mouthwash. No matter where I am in the world, it seems like everyone is drinking matcha. And there's a good chance that that matcha you're drinking is made by a company that I've invested more than seven figures in, who are a sponsor of this podcast called Perfect Ted.

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When Dr. Daniel Lieberman came on the Diary of a CEO, he explained how modern shoes, with their cushioning and support, are making our feet weaker and less capable of doing what nature intended them to do. We've lost the natural strength and mobility in our feet and this is leading to issues like back pain, and knee pain. I'd already purchased a pair of Vivo barefoot shoes.

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So I showed them to Daniel Lieberman and he told me that they were exactly the type of shoe that would help me restore natural foot movement and rebuild my strength. But I think it was plantar fasciitis that I had where suddenly my feet started hurting all the time. And after that, I decided to start strengthening my own foot by using the Vivo barefoot.

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And research from Liverpool University has backed this up. They've shown that wearing Vivo barefoot shoes for six months can increase foot strength by up to 60%. Visit vivobarefoot.com slash DOAC and use code DOAC20 for 20% off. That's the vivobarefoot.com slash DOAC. Use code DOAC20. A strong body starts with strong feet.

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If I've just listened to everything you've just said there and I want to improve my oral microbiome, what should I be doing?

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So someone that's struggling with their nitric oxide levels at the moment, what kind of symptoms would they experience?

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What should I use instead? You have to use a non-fluorinated toothpaste. And what about things like tongue scrapers?

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Why is this? My girlfriend's been banging on to me. She's always bloody right. My girlfriend's been banging on to me about tongue scraping for the last two years. And I've kind of just ignored her. I've just kind of, yeah, babe, sure. And when she's not in the bathroom, I'm not using her tongue scraper because it just looks strange.

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For me, based on what I knew about the oral microbiome and the microbiome generally, I'm like, should I be scraping off all my bacteria?

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Listen, I know nothing about gardening. You're asking the wrong guy. So maybe, yes. I grow my own food. Okay.

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So you want to tongue scrape and then use a toothbrush without fluoride toothpaste?

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Yeah. And what about going to dental hygienists and things like that? Do you think that's an advisable idea? Because once every quarter or so, I'll go and see a dental hygienist just to get everything sort of cleaned out.

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Okay. Is there anything else on this subject of your microbiome and its relationship with nitric oxide that I need to be aware of before we move on?

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That's crazy. And is there a link between our hormone levels, things like my testosterone levels, and the nitric oxide levels?

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So taking testosterone or estrogen therapies helps to increase mononitric oxide levels?

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And there's a two-way relationship as well with exercise then because I've read in your book that exercise activates and stimulates nitric oxide production, but you also just told me that if you want to get the great benefits of exercise, you need nitric oxide in the first place because else your blood cells are going to be very narrowed Less oxygen traveling through you.

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When I think about the role that food plays in my nitric oxide production, what should I be eating to increase my nitric oxide levels or to keep them at a healthy level?

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Just a bit of a tangent there. You mentioned that's why they have open wounds that don't heal.

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Okay, so nitric oxide's playing a healing role in wounds and scars? Absolutely. So I've got this scar on my head. I was playing football the other day. Someone ran into the back of my head and they passed out and got taken away by an ambulance. But I was just left with this big scar on the back of my head, which I've had glue stitched. So I'm wondering, I'm like, if I...

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Okay, well, we shall... We shall see if that works. So back on this point of food then. So sugar's bad. Sugar's bad.

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I'm trying to find the page in your book, but there was a page in your book where you describe beetroot as the most underappreciated food in the history of eating.

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There's a graph in front of me here, which I printed off, which shows the rise in antacid medications.

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So what is the difference between... Have you heard of Gaviscon before? Yes. Yeah. What's the difference between like a Gaviscon?

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Gaviscon is a commonly used antacid brand, and the active ingredients are aluminum hydroxide and magnesium carbonate.

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And Mike, as I mentioned a few times today, but my girlfriend's a breath practitioner, she runs a business called barley breath work.com hashtag ad. And one of the things she's talked to me a lot about is mouth breathing. And I know there's a relationship between nitric oxide and how we choose to breathe, whether it's through our nose or through our mouths. Can you explain to me that that link?

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This is a pretty crazy graph I took from Google as well, which shows just how interested people are now getting in the subject of mouth breathing.

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And is there anything else that I could and should be doing to increase and improve my nitric oxide levels that we haven't talked about yet?

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Is there anything else that I should be aware of if I'm trying to improve my nitric oxide levels?

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So you mean go out in the sunshine, but also those red light beds and stuff?

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What is the most important thing we haven't talked about that we should have talked about today, Dr. Nathan?

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Well, it's a good thing we have a lot of people that are devoted to finding new solutions to old problems. And you're certainly one of those people. And it's super fascinating because as you say, as I said at the start of this conversation, I had no idea about any of this stuff beforehand. I had no idea. I'd not really even heard the word nitric oxide.

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And maybe I'd heard it in passing, but maybe I was confusing it with that NOS gas that people talk about and that some people inhale. And maybe because I hadn't added context and story and understanding to it, maybe I'd heard it in passing, but didn't know what it was or meant.

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So it's really wonderful that you're leading the charge and educating the world on nitric oxide because it's clearly a really, really important molecule in the broader picture of our health.

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And the more we understand it, the more we ask questions about it and have curiosity about it, the higher the probability that we're going to be able to build some of these therapies that prevent us from ending up in a state as we've seen in some of these graphs where we're deficient in nitric oxide and then have to deal with the downstream consequences of that.

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So thank you for all the work that you're doing. It's really, really important. I'm going to ask you one final question, which is the question left by our previous guest.

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They don't know who they're leaving it for and they write it into this diary. So the question that's been left for you is, are you happily or unhappily mated and why?

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Was there an aha moment in your career where you became particularly interested in this subject? Because you could have committed your life to studying any facet of health or science. But for some reason, you chose nitric oxide as the thing that you chose to focus on. What was that eureka moment?

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Yeah, everything has a trade-off, as many of my guests have told me. Thank you so much for the work that you do. If people want to find out more about you, if they want to read more, they should certainly get this book, which you've just released, called The Secret of Nitric Oxide. I'll link it below for anyone that wants to have a read of this book.

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I highly recommend you do because it gives an even more comprehensive understanding of everything we've talked about today, and it's incredibly accessible, which is always critically important to me. But if they want to find out more, if they want to understand the products that you sell and anything else, where do they go?

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Dr. Nathan Bryan, thank you so much for your time today and being so incredibly generous. But thank you so much for educating the world in such an articulate and accessible way on a subject that few of us knew very little about.

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It's incredibly important work and it's inspired me to think again about my diet and about the decisions I make, the habits I have about exercise, about sunlight exposure, about my oral microbiome, all of these things. So thank you so much for that. It's a real gift and I appreciate you taking the time today.

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What you went through as a young man, to me, appears to be such an important sort of through line with all the work that you do and chose to do. There is this overarching question, which is even like, why did you go into medicine? Why did you want to help people? Where did that come from in you?

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And I feel like there's clues in that to some degree, based on what I read about your family, your early upbringing, the divorce of your parents, and then ultimately your dad getting in a car accident and being paralyzed. Is that an accurate suspicion?

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And who are you? What are all the reference points? What's the experience you've had in your career that have filled up your sort of buckets of knowledge that you bring forth today? Like, what have you studied? Where have you been?

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So let me get this straight. I'll repeat back to you what I think I understand about nitric oxide, and you tell me if it's accurate. So this nitric oxide is a chemical that is in all the blood cells of my body, and it allows my blood cells to basically expand, open up, so blood can flow through there.

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fine, so my blood cells would then expand and more blood would go through there. But if I'm deficient, that mechanism doesn't work and my blood cells wouldn't expand, ultimately expand through the relaxation of the muscles.

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And therefore, I would have higher blood pressure, which can lead to a series of downstream diseases and consequences. And so when we look at the graph that I showed a second ago, where we're seeing, for anyone that can't see this graph because you're listening on audio, we're seeing... Nitric oxide levels in young people up to the age of roughly around 20 are optimal.

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And then from about 30 to 70, there's this tremendous sort of 80, 90% drop. When I look at that graph, though, my question becomes, is that not just aging? Is that not just normal? Is that not just inevitable?

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Number one, you have to avoid... Quick one before we get back to this episode. Just give me 30 seconds of your time. Two things I wanted to say. The first thing is a huge thank you for listening and tuning into the show week after week. It means the world to all of us. And this really is a dream that we absolutely never had and couldn't have imagined getting to this place.

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And when you say you've got the vascular age of a 36-year-old, how does one measure that?

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What about hard work? Does it matter?

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And in that analogy of running for the plane is the key thing to have just better prepared further upstream. I, you know, if we stick to the analogy, just have made a better decision to leave the house at a better time.

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Some things do. And some of the small things that made a difference to your business seem to have been discovered through a process of sort of experimentation and failure. When I look back through your story, you're trying to get sort of Netflix to work and get product market fit. You referenced it a second ago, this idea of, no late fees seemed to be quite pivotal.

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An idea you had to remove the late fees. I find this interesting because there's going to be entrepreneurs that build their idea and then bang their head against the wall and it doesn't work. And then I hear so often, whether it's from Brian Chesky at Airbnb or from someone else, Daniel at Spotify, that there seemed to be this one change that was quite pivotal to their business at some point.

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So my question becomes like, how do I know? How do I find the thing? So can you explain to me why this no late fees thing and any of these other small changes that changed the game and what was the system that led you to them?

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And then that second step. So now I'm clear. I'm trying not to do this book because this particular chapter, I just don't feel that competent on. I don't feel like I've researched it. It's making my brain feel a bit hot thinking about it. I reframe it and go, okay, so I've understood it now. Then what do I do?

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Start processing it. Using the book example. I've hit chapter 12 and I'm struggling with this chapter. Right.

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So what happens then? So I've compartmentalized it. I'm writing my book. I'm on chapter 12. I've got a bunch of worries pop in. I'm scheduling that for later. Step three?

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Someone's also going to say, listen, you've got 4G internet on your phone. You've got cellular internet. So you can just go on.

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And more than anything, it's a statement you're making to you and everyone in your social environment that at 10 p.m. is the shutoff time. Whether people adhere to that, as you say, there's ways to circumnavigate that. But it's the statement of having that shutoff time.

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Willpower is not enough. This is maybe the most fascinating study I read of all of them because it really made me ponder and it kind of disrupted my thinking on willpower and strength and mental strength and motivation. And it's probably a huge reason why 91% of people don't stick to their resolutions. Dozens of studies show that willpower is the single most important habit for individual success.

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And this is true. But for a long time, people thought that willpower is a skill that you could develop and that therefore remains constant forever. Until Mark Muravan, a PhD scientist, argued that if willpower is a skill, then why does it not remain constant throughout the whole day or even throughout the whole week? Why does willpower seem to fluctuate?

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He conducted an experiment to prove that willpower, like all of the muscles in our body, gets exhausted the more we use it throughout the day. In his lab, he did a fairly simple thing. He set up one bowl of freshly baked cookies, and then he set up another bowl of radishes. And listen, everybody hates radishes, including me. Well, you know. Put them up, chop them up, put them in a salad.

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Maybe I don't hate them. They're good for you. But anyway, in this example, most people would prefer hot, delicious cookies than radishes, right? And the participants in the study were divided into two groups. One group was instructed to eat the delicious cookies and ignore the radishes. The other group was instructed to ignore the delicious cookies and to eat the radishes.

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I know which group I would have rather been in. After five minutes into that experiment, the researchers re-entered the room and gave both groups of people a puzzle. But the thing is, the puzzle was impossible to complete. And here's what happened. The people that had eaten the cookie

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with their unused reservoir of willpower, because they hadn't had to use their willpower, they hadn't had to use their restraint, looked way more relaxed when they were trying to solve that impossible puzzle, and they would continue to try and solve it over and over and over again. Some worked for more than half an hour before the researcher told them to stop.

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On average, the cookie eaters spent almost 19 minutes trying to solve that puzzle before they eventually quit, on average. Now, in the case of the radish eaters, with their depleted willpower because they had to practice restraint, they acted completely differently. It was a completely opposite story. They vented as they worked to try and solve that puzzle. They got frustrated.

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One even complained that the whole experiment was a waste of time. Some of them put their heads on the table, closed their eyes, and one of them even snapped at the researcher when she came back in. On average, the radish eaters worked for roughly eight minutes, 60% less. They tried to solve the problem of the puzzle, the impossible puzzle, for 60% less time than the cookie eaters before quitting.

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And when I read this study, I was shocked, but I'm a skeptic. So I tried to think of why this might be. I tried to think of other factors. And I thought of maybe it's the sugar. Maybe the sugar in the cookies are causing them to work harder. But when you look at other studies where there isn't sugar, anytime someone's practicing restraint, the same effects are seen. Willpower isn't just a skill.

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It's a muscle, like the muscles in your arms or your legs. And it gets tired and it gets tired as it's forced to work harder. So there's less power left over for all of the other things. And since that cookie study was published, I think in 1998, numerous studies have built a case for the exact same thing. They call it the willpower depletion theory.

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In one incredible example, which is almost hard to believe, volunteers who were asked to suppress their feelings as they watched an emotional movie gave up sooner on a test that they did after of physical stamina than than volunteers who watched the film and were allowed to react in whatever way they wanted to.

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So if you were asked to restrain yourself, when you then did a physical exercise, people gave up sooner in the physical exercise. In a similar study which pointed at the exact same conclusion, people who were asked to suppress certain thoughts were less able to stifle laughter in a follow-up test which was designed to make them giggle.

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So if the science here is correct, which I suspect it is, and willpower is a limited resource, It's really obvious that the more pressure and restrictions and strain you put on yourself when you're trying to make a new habit and break old ones, the less the chance you have of achieving them, the more chance you have of rebounding and relapsing. This is why...

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unsustainable crash diets just don't work this is why anytime you feel like you're depriving yourself of something that you really want you nearly always end up failing and falling into relapse this is why in a 2014 study almost 40% of people said they failed on their new year's resolutions because the goal was too unsustainable or unrealistic and 10% said they failed because they had too many goals

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This is why it's so important as you think about what goals you're setting to make sure that they're small enough and achievable enough to become sustainable without the need for major sacrifice, which will deplete your willpower reserves. And that for me was a real revelation because I think about all the habits I've tried to set. You know, when I talked about...

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trying to get a six pack for summer, think about what I said. I obsessively ate healthy food. I went to the gym every day for six months. My willpower eventually became depleted and I rebounded. Rebounded like a yo-yo, like you've never seen before. And this is why you shouldn't try and give up every bad habit that you have at the same time.

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This is why less goals increase the chance of completing all of your goals. Because with too many big, unrealistic, sacrifice-centric goals, your willpower will be under tremendous, unsustainable strain. It will run out. You will fail and it will rebound.

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And this is also why so many psychologists and scientists have found that the best way to create a new habit isn't by depriving yourself of all rewards. That is totally counterproductive according to the science. It's by finding new rewards, healthier rewards, less addictive rewards, but nonetheless making sure that you still reward yourself in some way every day along the way.

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The other thing I found really curious in this section about habits in stage four of the book is when people think about habit loops, they often have a reward at the end of it. You referenced suffering. Now, there's this quote I heard many years ago. I think it was just over 10 years ago. It must have been. God, I'm getting old.

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Where I heard this YouTuber say, change happens when the pain of staying the same becomes greater than the pain of making a change. And when I'm thinking about friends that I have in my life or myself, where there's habits or there's behavior patterns that I want to break, sometimes I'm thinking about one particular person who's a musician.

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Sometimes they have to get to that rock bottom place before you see change happen. Yeah. Is that because of that?

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A lot of people are thinking about habits. It's January. I made a video on habits a couple of weeks ago today. In A Path Through the Jungle, you talk about how our habits are influenced by our self-image. That was a curious sentence to read and not something I'd heard before. What do you mean by that?

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And then that last point in the triangle, the habit triangle, commitment.

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One of the things this podcast has taught me from speaking to all these people across multiple fields is that sometimes we can feel like our body, our wiring is against us, especially as it relates to health, right? So, you know, we know sugar is bad. So why does our brain send us these cravings to go and eat sugar?

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And in the case of distractions and sort of behavioral psychology, I know instinctively and intuitively that distractions like hanging out on TikTok for an hour is bad. but my brain is doing it. What does that tell us about how we should go about adopting behavior change?

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I'm really compelled by, really interested in how you figured out the thing you were trying to escape from, because I think that's the starting point, which is a very difficult starting point for most people. They can see the sort of compulsive behavior that's maybe making them live outside of their values or causing them to excessively eat or excessively watch porn or whatever it might be.

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But diagnosing the root cause of that is a difficult thing to do. Most of us don't know what we don't know. Yeah.

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Why sleep? Of all the things that you could commit so much of your time to, because it appears you've been really thinking and working on the subject matter of sleep for about 20-odd years, two decades roughly? Yeah, something like that, yeah.

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over or underestimates the importance of sleep in their day-to-day life?

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So where do you think we stand then? Overestimate? Underestimate?

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The average person that you've treated, worked with in your clinical practice that's struggling with sleep is... is at the heart of the issue, just poor sort of sleep hygiene, like you've said there. Because I've got so many friends that say to me that they struggle with their sleep. Many of them have struggled with it for years.

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And I doubt that there's some sort of genetic reason why this many people are struggling with sleep. So I imagine it's just some kind of behavioral reason.

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And what is poor sleep hygiene? If I wanted to be the worst possible sleeper in the world, what would I have to do?

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What about when I eat?

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Okay, what about sleeping in bed with somebody else?

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find it comfortable more comfortable to sleep with somebody in the same bed as you i was um i was thinking the other day because where i've currently moved into there's no blinds or curtains in my bedroom and i was wondering if that might be a good thing because it at least means that in terms of my circadian rhythm i'm waking up at the same time every day because i'm waking up when the sun comes up

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Top Moment: The Real Reason You're Always Tired: Professor Guy Leschziner

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What if you wear a sleep mask? Does that solve it?

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Top Moment: The Real Reason You're Always Tired: Professor Guy Leschziner

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Does that mean that the only light receptors we have are behind our eyes?

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This Stuck With Me: Harvard Psychiatrist Reveals The #1 Foods You Must STOP Eating To Heal Your Brain

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the level of the mitochondria are you saying do you believe that because you changed your diet to more sort of natural healthier foods at the level of the mitochondria the mitochondria were able to function more more naturally themselves and in a more um yeah functional way which meant that they released the chemicals they released in the processes they go through and

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This Stuck With Me: Harvard Psychiatrist Reveals The #1 Foods You Must STOP Eating To Heal Your Brain

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were more consistent with positive mental health? Is that like the simpletons way of understanding it? And before then you talked about manmade compounds in the foods, et cetera. I'm assuming you're saying that some of the modern foods that we eat, the ultra processed foods that have all of these random named chemicals inside them that we see on the labels,

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the mitochondria don't know how to deal with that. So it's causing the same sort of dysregulation and dysfunction that they might see if we'd gone through like an extreme trauma or something else or some other adverse environmental situation. It's just this dysfunction of the mitochondria, which is causing the knock-on effects we see.

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This Stuck With Me: Harvard Psychiatrist Reveals The #1 Foods You Must STOP Eating To Heal Your Brain

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Okay, great. It's perfect. Super interesting. Okay, so on that point then, we have to zoom in on this thing of diet. If you wanted my mitochondria to be perfect, and maybe even give me a case study of patients you've worked with that you've prescribed a certain diet to, what diet, what food would you tell me to eat? And what would you tell me not to eat?

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I would say no. However, I can have moments where I feel a little bit anxious. Okay. So, you know, I've been through a lot of, I'd say like stressful events in my life because I was running a big business. We had hundreds of employees, paydays all the time. So I had this, at one point I had this constant, subtle stress.

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Sometimes, sometimes it can feel a little bit like that. It's very infrequent, I'd say. But I can also have moments where I just think of something and then I get the same kind of like, it's almost like the fight or flight response has just kicked in.

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But if I have that profile, if I have that sort of mental profile now as I sit here, and then for the next decade, I ate processed junk food, Am I going to send my mitochondria into disarray, which is going to increase the probability that I have a mental health disorder?

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And we see the same in humans though, because I was reading your book and in chapter four, you say people with ADHD are more likely to develop obesity. People who are obese are 50% more likely to develop bipolar and 25% more likely to develop anxiety or depression. And weight gain around the time of puberty leads to a 400% increase in the chance of depression by the age of 24.

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And the thread that unites all of these problems is metabolism.

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Highlight: The Fire In The Booth That Would Have Destroyed My Brand: Charlie Sloth

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In order for your team to know, what decisions you'd make before, you know, it even comes to you as it relates to the branding, the positioning of it and all those things. That must first start with you being really, really clear.

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Highlight: The Fire In The Booth That Would Have Destroyed My Brand: Charlie Sloth

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And what I've got from all of that is because you're so clear in your head and non-negotiable about what this brand is, you've been able to kind of like install that in all of the people around you. So now they are like disciples of the values. For sure. We actually have a Bible. Oh, really?

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Highlight: The Fire In The Booth That Would Have Destroyed My Brand: Charlie Sloth

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And I feel like now the brand really is going global. Everyone wants to know what's in that Bible. What kind of things are in there?

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Highlight: The Fire In The Booth That Would Have Destroyed My Brand: Charlie Sloth

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Highlight: The Fire In The Booth That Would Have Destroyed My Brand: Charlie Sloth

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One of the things I found really interesting is I read that you deleted,

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Highlight: The Fire In The Booth That Would Have Destroyed My Brand: Charlie Sloth

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potentially hundreds of episodes of fire in the booth that just didn't cut it yeah which which i think a lot of people would be surprised by because you know a rapper an artist comes down they perform they might think it's gone off they might think that you know they killed it and then you're sat there thinking this doesn't meet the standard

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Highlight: The Fire In The Booth That Would Have Destroyed My Brand: Charlie Sloth

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Highlight: The Fire In The Booth That Would Have Destroyed My Brand: Charlie Sloth

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Give them a try now with a $100 credit to launch your first campaign. Go to linkedin.com slash DOAC24. Terms and conditions apply. Here's Charlie. When it comes to building a brand that has integrity, what matters? You know, this is a brand. Yeah.

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Most Shared Clip: Inside Nike’s Branding Genius: Lessons for Building an Iconic Brand: Greg Hoffman

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They're also the sponsor of this episode. Here you have access to professional network of individuals who influence your business with over a billion members, 130 million decision makers, and 10 million C-suite executives. So you can kill the guesswork and know exactly who you're reaching. If you're ready to make an impact, give LinkedIn Ads a try and enjoy this moment on us.

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Most Shared Clip: Inside Nike’s Branding Genius: Lessons for Building an Iconic Brand: Greg Hoffman

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How do I find which story to tell? Because if I'm running this podcast and I'm thinking, okay, I need to do the logo, the branding, I need to position it in a way that's going to be... This is typically the way the brain thinks. It's trying... The outcome is success. And it's trying to figure out which story to tell to get me to success. So how do I make this podcast successful?

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Most Shared Clip: Inside Nike’s Branding Genius: Lessons for Building an Iconic Brand: Greg Hoffman

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When you think of the most iconic logo in the world, which brand comes to mind? For me, it's probably Nike. Their former CMO Greg Hoffman knew exactly how critical strong brand recognition was. And in this clip, he shares his tactics on leveling up your own marketing. I have about 40 companies in my portfolio. And when I think about what's worked in terms of marketing, LinkedIn ads stands out.

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Most Shared Clip: Inside Nike’s Branding Genius: Lessons for Building an Iconic Brand: Greg Hoffman

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How do you go about knowing where and how to find that story in your business, brand, team, whatever it is? And which one is the right one to tell to get the outcome I'm looking for, which is success?

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Most Shared Clip: Inside Nike’s Branding Genius: Lessons for Building an Iconic Brand: Greg Hoffman

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Or if you want to get started now, LinkedIn Ads is offering $100 credit to launch your first campaign. Go to linkedin.com slash DOAC24 to claim your credit. Terms and conditions apply. To create a strong emotional connection with someone else, I'm presuming you have to take a strong emotional stance yourself often.

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Most Shared Clip: Inside Nike’s Branding Genius: Lessons for Building an Iconic Brand: Greg Hoffman

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Which happens a lot. For me, so some things that we do intentionally to try and communicate the, I guess the heart of what we're doing on this podcast, for example, in the branding. So one of the things is we always make sure it feels like home. So it's in, whether in LA or in London, it's actually shot in my actual kitchen on a very similar looking table.

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Most Shared Clip: Inside Nike’s Branding Genius: Lessons for Building an Iconic Brand: Greg Hoffman

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People are actually surprised it looks exactly the same, but we always shoot it at home because I think the conversations we're having are homely ones. They're the ones people have at home. They're not ones that, you know, we could go do this in a massive studio, but it wouldn't be in line with our values. The other thing is it's dark in here. So that speaks to the subject matter.

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Most Shared Clip: Inside Nike’s Branding Genius: Lessons for Building an Iconic Brand: Greg Hoffman

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Sometimes it speaks to secrets. The other thing is obviously the title of the podcast is The Diary of a CEO. And you ask yourself what one might keep in a diary. It tends to be things that are a little bit deeper. And there's all these small things, you know, we even, I mean, we spend many days this week, me and Jack debating removing the microphones.

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Most Shared Clip: Inside Nike’s Branding Genius: Lessons for Building an Iconic Brand: Greg Hoffman

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because it kills what the humanness of authentic communication. So we're thinking about ways where we can have the microphones hanging, where we can remove the barrier and all these small things. I guess, is that the frame? Or when you think about brand elements, you're talking more about like colors and things like that?

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Most Shared Clip: Inside Nike’s Branding Genius: Lessons for Building an Iconic Brand: Greg Hoffman

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So I'm just thinking about the things that have evoked the strongest emotional connections with anything I do. The things that have evoked the strongest emotional connections with this podcast and its audience are strong emotional stories. But when you do that, when you avoid indifference, you are putting yourself in line for potential criticism and attacks and you're going to polarize people.

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Most Shared Clip: Inside Nike’s Branding Genius: Lessons for Building an Iconic Brand: Greg Hoffman

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Some people are going to love and hate you. How important has that been for Nike? And how important is it for a person starting a podcast or a business or leading a team or whatever else?

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Moment 208: The Dumbest Financial Advice Everyone Weirdly Follows That’s Keeping Them Poor!

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You've spoken about a few of the skills that are required for making money. The one that really stuck out to me that you've discussed so far is this idea of endurance, patience, regardless of what's happening in the markets, regardless of the volatility, lose your password and sit on your hands.

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Just on that point as well, I remember reading somewhere, it might have even been your book, you know, it's so crazy because... The things that I know about money, I can't remember where I've got them from, but most of them came from this book. Like most of the principles came from this book.

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Moment 208: The Dumbest Financial Advice Everyone Weirdly Follows That’s Keeping Them Poor!

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And one of the things that I read was that Warren Buffett would go like five years without allocating capital. And this quote where he said, the hardest thing to be a great investor is to be able to sit on your hands and do nothing.

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What are the other skills then, endurance, patience, to get money?

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And you can do that from your phone.

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And you had to like make a phone call.

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Like pieces of paper and all kinds of- Huge.

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You talk about the skill of keeping money, which is different from the skill of getting money, is predicated on survival.

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Moment 208: The Dumbest Financial Advice Everyone Weirdly Follows That’s Keeping Them Poor!

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So your kid is 20 years old. He's broke. Do you tell him to go and take huge outsized risks? He's not got a family. He's not got a mortgage. He's not got a dog. What advice do you give him at that age to create wealth?

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It's interesting. I was thinking as you're speaking that the proximity from your desk and the CEOs probably needs to widen over time.

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Moment 208: The Dumbest Financial Advice Everyone Weirdly Follows That’s Keeping Them Poor!

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You introduced this concept of tails. Long tails. And this also changed my life. Changed my investment strategy, I should probably say. You talk about the example of venture capital, where for every 50 investments that venture capitalists make, statistically half of them will completely fail. 10 will do okay. And one or two will make huge profits that drive 100% of the fund's returns. Yeah.

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Moment 208: The Dumbest Financial Advice Everyone Weirdly Follows That’s Keeping Them Poor!

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This is a lesson about investing in finance, but it's also, for me, a lesson about life.

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Moment 208: The Dumbest Financial Advice Everyone Weirdly Follows That’s Keeping Them Poor!

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So why don't you just buy those 10?

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All of this is a case for humility. This is honestly what I took away from your book. You're expecting to walk away with tips, all these tips, these tricks, these special ways to make more money than everybody. What I came away with is this one important lesson that I've never been able to unsee, which is, I don't know.

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Moment 208: The Dumbest Financial Advice Everyone Weirdly Follows That’s Keeping Them Poor!

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I'm in this crypto chat where one of my friends, I won't disparage him. One of my friends, he's the guy in the chat that's always posting the forecast graphs. You know, those ones where they kind of like the little logger graphs where they forecast where the stock or the crypto is going to go.

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Moment 208: The Dumbest Financial Advice Everyone Weirdly Follows That’s Keeping Them Poor!

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And it's always, it's always up into the right. Um, And it's kind of like male horoscopes. I heard someone say that.

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And this comes right back to investing, doesn't it? Because most people that consider themselves to be investors, whether that's just putting a couple of quid into crypto or something else, engage in the idea that they can predict the future. And this is where it appears that most money is lost.

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You say that in same as ever, you say, I think that the chapter title is risk is the things you can't see or something. Risk is what you don't see. Risk is what you don't see. That was a little bit terrifying.

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But there's also lots of other TED Talks that say everything's going to be great.

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There's a lot more. So on balance, the world had no idea.

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So how do I prepare? If risk is what I don't see, how do I prepare?

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Moment 208: The Dumbest Financial Advice Everyone Weirdly Follows That’s Keeping Them Poor!

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What is your capital allocation strategy? How do you invest your money? This is the thing people want to know most about you.

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Moment 208: The Dumbest Financial Advice Everyone Weirdly Follows That’s Keeping Them Poor!

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So simple. Why index funds? You're the reason I, your capital allocation strategy is almost identical to mine. I want to talk about the house thing as well, but after reading your book, I stopped trying to pick stocks and I invested all of my available capital into index funds outside of investing it in starting companies. So I'm a shareholder in, I don't know, 50, 60, 70 companies.

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Moment 208: The Dumbest Financial Advice Everyone Weirdly Follows That’s Keeping Them Poor!

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All my other available capital is invested in index funds. And then I have a very longstanding, large position in Ethereum, which I've held for like six years or something, which has done me very well. That is it. And the Ethereum investment is also based on the fact that I run a software business that is in blockchain.

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And I could see that developers are building on top of Ethereum more than any other blockchain. So that insight was really beneficial to me.

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Yeah, I think your book taught me that successful investing is when you lose the password to your investment account.

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I don't actually think you said that in there, but that's like, when I lose the password to my investment account, I'm so proud of myself because it means I haven't checked it in forever. And so it was funny because you were coming today. I thought, oh yeah, well, I have all this money in these index funds. I'll check it. And I thought, fuck, I don't know the password. I thought,

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What is, for anyone that doesn't know, what is dollar cost averaging and what is an index fund?

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If I was your son and I said, dad, prove to me that that's a better long-term wealth creation strategy than buying crypto or buying companies that I use or like, how would you explain that to your kid?

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Give me a case study where someone has followed that strategy and done well.

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Patience. It's a difficult thing. It also reminds me of the story that you talk about in the introduction of your book about the janitor, Ronald James Reed. Yeah. who, when he died in 2014 aged 92, had a net worth of over 8 million.

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Moment 207: CIA Spy Reveals How To Read Anyone Like A Book!

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For someone that's just clicked on this podcast now, who's trying to understand the value that they're going to get from you by understanding the work that you do at Everyday Spy, What are they gonna get from this conversation?

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Moment 207: CIA Spy Reveals How To Read Anyone Like A Book!

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Of these four core motivations are... is there an order of the strength that they have over people? So if you were really trying to get someone to do something, you'd focus on this core motivation over that one.

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Is this really the essence of manipulation then?

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You said the ideology is the strongest of the four, of the core motivations. How might you go about finding out someone's ideology in the context of business and life?

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If you listen.

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They will tell me secrets. As part of your training to become a CIA officer, you must have learned how to manipulate people. That seems to me, from what I know of spies, pretty foundational to what it is to be a successful spy and to get information from someone else.

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I've heard you say that espionage really is about getting people to let you into their secret lives. Correct. What is...

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In this conversation today, are we going to learn how, through your training, you were taught to get information from people and make them do what you wanted them to do?

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I'm very keen to know how you get into someone's secret life and how they might get into your own. And we've talked about some of those principles earlier. But I was wondering if one of the techniques you might use is by sharing your own fake secret life with them to create an element of comfort.

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I think I've heard and I think I know from doing this podcast generally that vulnerability creates vulnerability to some extent. If you open up to someone that they're more likely to open up to you.

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Okay, interesting.

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So say that I was the asset and you were the CIA agent. You have more experience in that role than I do. And I was sat in a bar and I said to you, yeah, God, this week's been really hard at home because my wife, she's annoying me. And you were trying to get into my secret life. How might you maneuver from there?

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Is learning how to kill people involved in the curriculum?

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Do they teach you that?

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They taught you how to lie.

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Let's talk to everything.

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What about body language? Is that a factor in lying?

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And what sort of means is that to what end? So if I'm, you know, the average Joe listening to this now, when you say break barriers, what are those barriers that I'm going to be able to break in my life?

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Yeah, yeah.

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So when you were lying to someone based on your training, would you think a lot about your body language? Yes. And what would you do? What would you, what were the principles of making sure your body language wasn't letting the cat out of the bag? Yeah.

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Just for people that are on audio, he's just like doing different postures and body languages. So that are far away from my own, like putting his hands on the table, et cetera. So, okay, it makes sense.

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Is there anything else on the subject of telling a lie to someone that's believable that we need to be aware of in terms of skills?

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So you have to get to know the person and then understand the variance that's unusual to understand if they're lying to you.

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Was there any sort of consistent telltale signs that someone was lying to you in an interaction? No. Like, you know what I mean? You know, certain, you know, nervous things that they do change, you know, what are those variances that you might see that you go, this person's now lying to me?

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Mm-hmm.

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Going back to your training then, what were some of the other most important transferable skills that you learned throughout that process?

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Can you train that? Can you raise your sort of baseline dopamine level? Or are they two separate questions?

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Is this like the introvert, extrovert conversation as well? Because two people can be in the same room. And I mean, I consider myself to be a bit of an extrovert, sorry, introvert, where if I stand in a room for two to three hours doing small talk, the way I describe it, it's like my brain feels fried. Whereas my assistant, Sophie, it's like you've poured fuel into her.

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I think a lot of the reason why people are curious about dopamine is because ultimately they want to be more productive or effective at some goal they have in their life. So it might be building a business. It could be a podcast, whatever.

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Moment 211: Dr. Andrew Huberman: The Real Reason You're Always Exhausted & Have No Dopamine!

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So taking everything you know about dopamine and how it works, if you were giving me advice on how I could be a better entrepreneur, podcaster, whatever, the first thing I got from you was really about this idea of transitioning between states and also allowing time for my reserves to replenish after a high dopamine activity. Is there anything else that I should be thinking about?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

Moment 211: Dr. Andrew Huberman: The Real Reason You're Always Exhausted & Have No Dopamine!

314.557

Is that like, so what would be an everyday example of that, working excessively? Do you mean like pre-workout or something?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

Moment 211: Dr. Andrew Huberman: The Real Reason You're Always Exhausted & Have No Dopamine!

618.692

I think this is so unbelievably important because it really helps people to understand why they do what they do. And before doing the research on you coming here today and before understanding some of this stuff, I thought dopamine was, I don't know, it was this thing that came in these hits maybe. And if I did something, I got ahead of it, then I returned to baseline.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

Moment 211: Dr. Andrew Huberman: The Real Reason You're Always Exhausted & Have No Dopamine!

635.818

If I did something again, stimulating, I'd got ahead of it, then I returned to baseline. But what actually is happening is I'm doing something that's stimulating in some way. I'm getting this huge peak, then I'm crashing below baseline for a while. And when I'm below baseline, that's when I'm most likely to want to do something that's going to give me a hit again.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

Moment 211: Dr. Andrew Huberman: The Real Reason You're Always Exhausted & Have No Dopamine!

654.391

And when I saw that, it reminded me of the CGI monitor, the continuous glucose monitor that I wore. Because it was a very similar pattern. If I had a lot of sugar, I had a big peak, then I crashed below my baseline.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2193 - Jack Symes

4993.708

We've got to put our headphones on and hear it. All right. Trump on gay rights. You mentioned the Bible. You've been talking about how it's your favorite book. And you said, I think last night in Iowa, some people are surprised that you say that. I'm wondering what one or two of your most favorite Bible verses are and why.

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2193 - Jack Symes

5014.904

There's no verse that means a lot to you that you think about or cite?

The Joe Rogan Experience

#2193 - Jack Symes

5022.39

even decide a verse that you like.

The Journal.

What's the Worst AI Can Do? This Team Is Finding Out.

1073.567

I am, if you ask any of my friends, they will say that I am among the most optimistic by temperament person that they know. In this kind of context, I try to be as calibrated and serious as possible. I am not, say, scared of the models.

The Journal.

What's the Worst AI Can Do? This Team Is Finding Out.

1090.012

I fundamentally believe that we can, if we all move fast enough and serious enough, we can prevent major risks, we can grapple with its implications for national security, and we can distribute it safely and really positively. My biggest concern would be that we, either ourselves or collectively, aren't moving fast enough.

The Journal.

What's the Worst AI Can Do? This Team Is Finding Out.

293.08

Okay. We can make it conversational.

The Journal.

What's the Worst AI Can Do? This Team Is Finding Out.

302.785

My name is Logan Graham. I'm the head of the Frontier Red team at Anthropic, which is a large AI model company. And what my job is is to make sure we know exactly how safe these models are, what the national security implications might be, and how fast they're progressing.

The Journal.

What's the Worst AI Can Do? This Team Is Finding Out.

334.744

That's my interpretation of it. And I think that's really what it was. Yeah.

The Journal.

What's the Worst AI Can Do? This Team Is Finding Out.

342.607

I have what I think are some pretty good guesses. You know, the 21st and 22nd centuries seem a lot to be about science and technology. We will do things like cure diseases, go off earth. Ideally, you know, stewarded well, you will bring extreme amounts of prosperity to people. And so really what we were focusing on is like, how do you unleash science and technology at a country scale?

The Journal.

What's the Worst AI Can Do? This Team Is Finding Out.

391.892

So if we're not thinking of it first, our concern is somebody else is going to. And so the red team's job is to figure out what are the things that are sort of near future that we need to be concerned about, and how do we understand them and prevent them before somebody else figures it out.

The Journal.

What's the Worst AI Can Do? This Team Is Finding Out.

419.881

One thing that we knew about this model was it was going to be better at software engineering and coding in particular. And that's obviously super relevant for things like cybersecurity. And so we thought, you know what? Like, we're at a point where we can run tons of evals really fast when we want to. Let's do this.

The Journal.

What's the Worst AI Can Do? This Team Is Finding Out.

466.285

And so today, we are going to button press and launch emails across all of our domains.

The Journal.

What's the Worst AI Can Do? This Team Is Finding Out.

535.242

Another is offensive use or offensive cyber capabilities.

The Journal.

What's the Worst AI Can Do? This Team Is Finding Out.

540.925

Exactly, like hacking. The key question for us is when might models be really capable of doing something like a state-level operation or really significant offensive attempt to, say, hack into some system of, in particular, critical infrastructure is what we're concerned about.

The Journal.

What's the Worst AI Can Do? This Team Is Finding Out.

571.68

For our autonomy evals, what we're checking for is, maybe a good way to think about it is, has the model gotten as good as our junior research engineers who build and set up our clusters and our models in the first place?

The Journal.

What's the Worst AI Can Do? This Team Is Finding Out.

603.976

I think that puts it well. Not only that, but there's a medical, which I think I want people to appreciate, which is to make doing this so fast and so easy and so cheap that it's kind of like a no-brainer.

The Journal.

What's the Worst AI Can Do? This Team Is Finding Out.

615.94

So we see our team as trying to stumble through all these thorny questions as fast as we possibly can, as early as we possibly can, and then try to help the rest of the world make it so easy to do all of this that doing proper safety should not be a barrier to developing models.

The Journal.

What's the Worst AI Can Do? This Team Is Finding Out.

697.18

Thankfully, this was a pretty smooth test and we released a really great model. But even better, the real thing is we feel ready.

The Journal.

What's the Worst AI Can Do? This Team Is Finding Out.

713.175

We are very confident that it is ASL 2. That's what we mean. That's how we think about it.

The Journal.

What's the Worst AI Can Do? This Team Is Finding Out.

915.253

So we have, the cool thing about the responsible scaling policy is we've like detailed all of this ahead of time. So we know exactly what the plan is. We feel like pretty confident that we've like mitigated the risk and at the same time made the model secure.

The Journal.

What's the Worst AI Can Do? This Team Is Finding Out.

943.325

I love that question. We think about the exact same question. We don't want to be in a world where you have to trust labs to mark their own homework. This is where things like third-party testing is so valuable. Don't trust us. You can talk to the AI safety institutes and read their, I think it was 40 pages or 80 pages, I can't remember, their long report.

The Journal.

What's the Worst AI Can Do? This Team Is Finding Out.

964.15

Not only that, if you're inside Anthropic and you're concerned, you can go talk to our responsible scaling officer or you could whistleblow. Hopefully people out in the world now have access to our model. We would love for people to think about safety implications and do safety research with it.

The Journal.

What's the Worst AI Can Do? This Team Is Finding Out.

979.613

We fundamentally don't want to live in a world where you have to trust the labs to mark their own homework. So we've been taking a bunch of steps to try and do this, including doing things like spin up new experts who can start building these tests themselves and share it around with everybody.

The Journal.

A Syrian Father’s Journey to Find His Son

1040.41

What does Suleyman now think happened to Shadi?

The Journal.

A Syrian Father’s Journey to Find His Son

225.717

What did Suleiman say about the last time he saw his son?

The Journal.

A Syrian Father’s Journey to Find His Son

308.001

What did he think happened to him?

The Journal.

A Syrian Father’s Journey to Find His Son

629.033

At a certain point, did you think it was a dead end?

The Journal.

Inside DOGE's Campaign of Secrecy

273.089

And who is them? Like, who are the people who are carrying out this work?

The Journal.

Inside DOGE's Campaign of Secrecy

341.473

The ultimate modern power, a mass email.

The Journal.

Inside DOGE's Campaign of Secrecy

961.878

And we'll have you back to tell us about it.

The Journal.

The New Hit Depression Treatment? A Ketamine-Derived Nasal Spray

1179.523

The Hard Way. Yeah. It seems like a very apt title.

The LOL Podcast

We Broke Up!

0.149

So what happened with your most recent boyfriend?

The LOL Podcast

We Broke Up!

1002.845

I've never taken a spring break. You never got a spring break when you were in school?

The LOL Podcast

We Broke Up!

1107.541

Oh, expired date. 6-10-25. Is that out of date? No, you're good.

The LOL Podcast

We Broke Up!

119.093

Well...

The LOL Podcast

We Broke Up!

1240.993

I want to see how long you...

The LOL Podcast

We Broke Up!

1404.361

Country roads take me home to the place where I belong. Henrietta!

The LOL Podcast

We Broke Up!

1515.764

What's always hungry and likes to be fed?

The LOL Podcast

We Broke Up!

1523.249

The finger, though, might turn brown.

The LOL Podcast

We Broke Up!

1670.886

Let's see your push-up, and then let's see your new move.

The LOL Podcast

We Broke Up!

2026.889

That's crazy. I'll be real, man. If there's any men out there, let me just tell you something.

The LOL Podcast

We Broke Up!

2103.982

Hey, so what happened with your most recent boyfriend?

The LOL Podcast

We Broke Up!

2108.105

We got to talk about that.

The LOL Podcast

We Broke Up!

2113.728

No.

The LOL Podcast

We Broke Up!

3250.984

Yeah, it was when we started dating.

The LOL Podcast

We Broke Up!

3254.947

Well, yeah, but that was when you really cleaned up your act.

The LOL Podcast

We Broke Up!

409.298

Don't worry, Kate. I'm sweeping it all under the rug.

The LOL Podcast

We Broke Up!

436.367

Bad baby?

The LOL Podcast

We Broke Up!

438.929

I don't know what any of those words mean.

The LOL Podcast

We Broke Up!

441.931

What's Bad Baby?

The LOL Podcast

We Broke Up!

515.264

Who's Alabama Barker?

The LOL Podcast

We Broke Up!

521.652

Did you say what brand?

The LOL Podcast

We Broke Up!

94.285

Greasy y'all. She said greasy. I ain't nothing greasy about me.

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Brian Tracy’s Legacy: The Mindset, Method, and Millionaire Blueprint

0.129

The man, the myth, the legend, Brian Tracy. Welcome.

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Brian Tracy’s Legacy: The Mindset, Method, and Millionaire Blueprint

1079.571

Brian, you have this like unique triangle method, right? This system that I love how you break it down. I mean, it's so impactful. Can you break down this triangle method for the audience?

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Brian Tracy’s Legacy: The Mindset, Method, and Millionaire Blueprint

114.363

Hello and welcome back to another epic episode with a true legend. You know who this man is. You've probably read one or more of his books. The man, the myth, the legend, Brian Tracy. Welcome.

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Brian Tracy’s Legacy: The Mindset, Method, and Millionaire Blueprint

126.491

Yeah, I'm very excited. This has been a long time coming. I moved to America and I read pretty much binged a lot of your books. And it really just amplified my mindset. I left England because the mindset I had was so unique there. People didn't think like me. And then when I moved to America, reading your books, it really solidified. I was in the right place and I was doing the right things.

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Brian Tracy’s Legacy: The Mindset, Method, and Millionaire Blueprint

1377.918

Last question for you. This is a broad and a big one because this is a kind of mini episode and we don't have long. If someone's trying to either become a millionaire or pursue their goals and build a legacy, what words of encouragement or tips would you give them?

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Brian Tracy’s Legacy: The Mindset, Method, and Millionaire Blueprint

150.947

And you've had an amazing impact on millions of lives through the books, right?

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Brian Tracy’s Legacy: The Mindset, Method, and Millionaire Blueprint

1671.338

That increases, too. More reps, more swings at the back.

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Brian Tracy’s Legacy: The Mindset, Method, and Millionaire Blueprint

1677.224

And, I mean, we have 50 sales people in my organization. Wow. And I've noticed, too, it also builds momentum and confidence. So probably quadruple sales because now they're more confident, they have more of a rhythm, more momentum, more drive. Yes.

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Brian Tracy’s Legacy: The Mindset, Method, and Millionaire Blueprint

1702.322

People just have to implement it. That's the gap in most of society is the implementation gap, right?

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Brian Tracy’s Legacy: The Mindset, Method, and Millionaire Blueprint

175.514

Why do you think, let's start there, why do you think most people in life go through life with little dreams?

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Brian Tracy’s Legacy: The Mindset, Method, and Millionaire Blueprint

1903.007

I mean, I love that. Yeah. And guys, it all starts with you. I think that's a great theme for this episode and everything you've done and the lives you've impacted. And, you know, we are going to wrap there. But if you've not already, go and binge all of Brian's books because it helped change my life in my early 20s and create the mindset now that I think is so fundamental for my success.

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Brian Tracy’s Legacy: The Mindset, Method, and Millionaire Blueprint

238.254

Well, what's interesting about that, so let's stay on that, that a lot of people through their childhood have been criticized, but your books and personal development in general can rewire the brain a little, right? And it can change the outcome. Yes. So how does someone start to do that, apart from obviously reading the books? What would be some tips you'd give them?

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Brian Tracy’s Legacy: The Mindset, Method, and Millionaire Blueprint

416.149

Brian, I know there's this story about how you got into sales at 10. You started selling soap. Tell me about that.

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Brian Tracy’s Legacy: The Mindset, Method, and Millionaire Blueprint

605.216

Brian, I think people see people like myself and you really successful, and they think we've always been successful. But I know in your 20s, you were sleeping on the floor, not selling, you hadn't mastered sales, and there was a pivotal moment. Can you talk about that for a second?

The Living Your Legacy Podcast

Brian Tracy’s Legacy: The Mindset, Method, and Millionaire Blueprint

876.01

Love that. And, you know, we talked a bit about the personal development mindset side, but you're also very famous and influential on sales, right? You've done hundreds of millions yourself from stages and with all your programs and books. What are just, you know, if you can only give a few tips, what are your best tips in a couple of minutes?

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1510 - Is It Finally Time For Our Glorious Conquest Of Canada To Begin?

3331.422

I was going to ask you, what is on these tests? Because it says basic, and I'm just thinking of basic. What are we talking about here?

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1521 - Trump Wages All Out War On DEI

1225.454

The female cop is tasked with removing the gun.

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1521 - Trump Wages All Out War On DEI

1748.439

First day on the job, President Trump signed an executive order, you know, the U.S. government only recognizing two genders, male, female. They're unchangeable. You know, if elected as prime minister, is that something that you're going to kind of walk in line with? Or what are your feelings on that executive order?

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1521 - Trump Wages All Out War On DEI

1770.789

Me personally? Yes. I'm just asking more so if you're in line with what he is saying. Do you agree with what he's saying? Is that something that you would be lockstep with if elected as prime minister?

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1521 - Trump Wages All Out War On DEI

1791.774

Well, there's well, there's. Personally, I am a man. I am, as people say, a cis man. There are people there who, you know, they say they're gender neutral. Me too. I am a man. You are a man, yes. There are people out there who say they're gender neutral. Yeah, they say they're gender neutral. They're, you know, they're a trans person. Is that something that you would recognize here?

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1521 - Trump Wages All Out War On DEI

1813.547

Whereas in the States, at least with their U.S. government, the way they're seeing it, there's only two.

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1506 - Why Derek Chauvin Deserves a New Trial (And Will Win It)

261.359

Yeah. Go ahead. I want to hear from you, Jodi. Why is that? You brought that up? What did you? I brought that up because it's- Tell me what you brought up and why.

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1506 - Why Derek Chauvin Deserves a New Trial (And Will Win It)

284.971

Why do you think that was a light bulb?

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1518 - Joe Biden Makes One Last Insane Power Grab Before Leaving For Good

1124.332

How do you feel about Trump being inaugurated this weekend?

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1518 - Joe Biden Makes One Last Insane Power Grab Before Leaving For Good

1148.422

What is your biggest concern about him becoming president? Is there a right that you're worried that he's going to take away from you?

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1518 - Joe Biden Makes One Last Insane Power Grab Before Leaving For Good

1167.146

And you're here today. against patriarchy. A lot of fun.

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1518 - Joe Biden Makes One Last Insane Power Grab Before Leaving For Good

1171.427

All right, thanks. Be glad we want equality and not revenge. Oh my gosh, that scares me a little bit. Tell us about that. What does that mean? Just, you know, with all the things going on with Roe v. Wade, we just want that. Can we ask you about your flag?

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1518 - Joe Biden Makes One Last Insane Power Grab Before Leaving For Good

1190.922

ask you what does it say elect a clown expect a circus tell us about this he was really disorganized coming in the first time and it's all about fame and fortune for him so i don't expect a lot of organization i mean he's got a few good people he's picked for his cabinet but how do you feel about donald trump and what are you worried about for this next administration um i just don't like him as a person and i feel like

The Matt Walsh Show

Ep. 1522 - Biden’s Pro-Life Political Prisoners Are Finally Free

338.724

Paulette, we've all just come out of your sentencing hearing here in D.C. What would you like to tell our LifeSite News readers about what just happened there?

The Megyn Kelly Show

Trump’s Cartel Crackdown Offer, Possible Alcatraz Reopening, Antarctic Ice Increases: AM Update 5/6

632.679

It's cheaper to bring 100 American people to Ireland than to walk across the lot at Fox. Right. Pass the sound stages and do it there. Crazy. Do you think if we shot Parks right now, we would be in Budapest? 100% we would be. We'd be in Budapest. We would be... It's so weird. There's nothing shoots in Los Angeles.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Trump’s Cartel Crackdown Offer, Possible Alcatraz Reopening, Antarctic Ice Increases: AM Update 5/6

661.197

Oh, yeah. And then on top of that, there's other stuff that they do. Yeah. And then that's not even talking about the union stuff. That's just tax economics of it all. So it's criminal what California and LA have let happen. It's criminal. Everybody should be fired.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Absurd New Resistance Efforts for Trump Address, and Dems Vote Against Protecting Women's Sports, with the Fifth Column | Ep. 1018

2331.487

It's like, how are you using all that momentum and just all that energy to try to put into a great year this year?

The Megyn Kelly Show

Absurd New Resistance Efforts for Trump Address, and Dems Vote Against Protecting Women's Sports, with the Fifth Column | Ep. 1018

2342.473

Just the 40-foot, jumping that in the triple, keeping that consistency with that, hitting that 40-foot mark, what's just your expectations for the rest of the year?

The Megyn Kelly Show

Fighting the Swamp and Conflicts of Interest, Truth About DOGE Cuts, and Finding Autism Cause, with FDA Commissioner Dr. Marty Makary | Ep. 1051

1258.069

So Curtis Wright is the FDA medical review officer who approves an unprecedented label for Purdue, and then he goes and works for Purdue. So do you think there's quid pro quo with Purdue to grant such generous wording?

The Megyn Kelly Show

Media's Sad and Smug Celebration, Gaslighting on Immigration, and Bizarre Belichick Interview, with Emily Jashinsky and Eliana Johnson | Ep. 1059

2357.868

The other change for Belichick is 24-year-old Jordan Hudson, his creative muse, as he writes in his book.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Media's Sad and Smug Celebration, Gaslighting on Immigration, and Bizarre Belichick Interview, with Emily Jashinsky and Eliana Johnson | Ep. 1059

2368.058

Jordan was a constant presence during our interview. You have Jordan right over there. Everybody in the world seems to be following this relationship. They've got an opinion about your private life. It's got nothing to do with them, but they're invested in it. How do you deal with that?

The Megyn Kelly Show

Media's Sad and Smug Celebration, Gaslighting on Immigration, and Bizarre Belichick Interview, with Emily Jashinsky and Eliana Johnson | Ep. 1059

2481.69

You joined Instaface, as you put it. I love that. There's some great pictures of you and Jordan where you're a fisherman and she's a mermaid. It's charming. It's a different side of you. What's the reaction been like? What's it been like to have these different sort of photos? There's another one where you're doing, I know you're not into meditation or yoga or Pilates.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Media's Sad and Smug Celebration, Gaslighting on Immigration, and Bizarre Belichick Interview, with Emily Jashinsky and Eliana Johnson | Ep. 1059

2717.244

Do you remember how you got the cut here? No. It reads Navy. I have to ask about Robert Kraft because 24 years together, six Super Bowls. Unless I'm wrong, he's not in this book.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Media's Sad and Smug Celebration, Gaslighting on Immigration, and Bizarre Belichick Interview, with Emily Jashinsky and Eliana Johnson | Ep. 1059

2741.847

Correct. Do you feel like you were treated with dignity and respect when you were let go by Robert Kraft?

The Megyn Kelly Show

Trump Zeroes in on Greenland, Mysterious Former US Attorney Death, Snow White Bombs: AM Update 3/24

403.815

Chuck Schumer, I guess the Senate Democratic leader, your senator, said at this meeting that he is going to vote for cloture. He is going to vote to allow there to be a simple majority vote. You think that's wrong?

The Megyn Kelly Show

Schumer on the Rocks, Trump Admin vs. DC Judge on Deportations, Trump Polling Highs: AM Update 3/17

295.711

So are you the right person to lead the party at this moment?

The Megyn Kelly Show

Schumer on the Rocks, Trump Admin vs. DC Judge on Deportations, Trump Polling Highs: AM Update 3/17

9.87

This is your AM update. So are you the right person to lead the party at this moment?

The Megyn Kelly Show

Megyn's Time 100 Recap, Trump's Board of Directors, and Dems' Sagging Poll Numbers, with Mark Halperin | Ep. 1057

2479.804

I think you've gone out of your way to find the path, argue for the path, forge the path for him in an argumentative way with your co-host to the nomination tonight. I thought you were interestingly optimistic. Where are you getting... the path of positivity you laid out on your broadcast?

The Megyn Kelly Show

Megyn's Time 100 Recap, Trump's Board of Directors, and Dems' Sagging Poll Numbers, with Mark Halperin | Ep. 1057

528.229

Congratulations. Thank you very much. I want to know, when you first found out that you were on the list, what was your reaction?

The Megyn Kelly Show

Megyn's Time 100 Recap, Trump's Board of Directors, and Dems' Sagging Poll Numbers, with Mark Halperin | Ep. 1057

5774.835

Do you regret saying that President Biden had a mental acuity? He had a sharpness to him. You said that up until July of last year.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Megyn's Time 100 Recap, Trump's Board of Directors, and Dems' Sagging Poll Numbers, with Mark Halperin | Ep. 1057

5797.019

And I hadn't at that point. You did not see any decline from 2024 Joe Biden to 2021 Joe Biden? No.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Megyn's Time 100 Recap, Trump's Board of Directors, and Dems' Sagging Poll Numbers, with Mark Halperin | Ep. 1057

5818.764

Senator, on his feet is not praise. He can speak in sentences, is not praise.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Megyn's Time 100 Recap, Trump's Board of Directors, and Dems' Sagging Poll Numbers, with Mark Halperin | Ep. 1057

719.036

There's a lot of controversy right now with Blake being on the Time 100 list.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Megyn's Time 100 Recap, Trump's Board of Directors, and Dems' Sagging Poll Numbers, with Mark Halperin | Ep. 1057

727.598

I mean, what do you think of when you read headlines like every day about her and Jillian?

The Megyn Kelly Show

Megyn's Time 100 Recap, Trump's Board of Directors, and Dems' Sagging Poll Numbers, with Mark Halperin | Ep. 1057

755.635

Right. Are you going to be avoiding her inside because she's expected to be here with Ryan?

The Megyn Kelly Show

Megyn's Time 100 Recap, Trump's Board of Directors, and Dems' Sagging Poll Numbers, with Mark Halperin | Ep. 1057

768.302

And what do you think of her new movie, Another Simple Favor? People are saying she's feuding with Anna. Do you believe that?

The Megyn Kelly Show

Megyn's Time 100 Recap, Trump's Board of Directors, and Dems' Sagging Poll Numbers, with Mark Halperin | Ep. 1057

936.834

You don't, on your show, also shy away from controversy. I saw that you addressed George Clooney's comments. Why did you feel the need to respond? Oh, because it's too delicious not to.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Dems Ignore Garcia Reality, Karmelo Anthony Family Speaks Out, Bernie Flies Private: AM Update 4/18

476.848

Some of the president's elect advisors have suggested that you should resign. If he asked you to leave, would you go?

The Megyn Kelly Show

Dems Ignore Garcia Reality, Karmelo Anthony Family Speaks Out, Bernie Flies Private: AM Update 4/18

484.423

No. Do you believe the president has the power to fire or demote you? And has the Fed determined the legality of a president demoting at will any of the other governors with leadership positions?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Pathetic Trump Goes Nuts as Plans Are All Ruined

319.329

And Canadians, many of them, are really angry, furious about your talk about we're going to take over Canada, it's going to become the 51st state. And it kind of is of a piece, a lot of travel is down into the United States from around the world. It feels like there's been reputational damage.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Pathetic Trump Goes Nuts as Plans Are All Ruined

359.112

But do you think, I'm going to ask you, if I may, do you think that...

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Pathetic Trump Goes Nuts as Plans Are All Ruined

569.563

I love it. Greenland joining America.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Pathetic Trump Goes Nuts as Plans Are All Ruined

582.349

Eliminating the IRS?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Congressman Tom Suozzi on Republican Budget Chaos

68.294

Are you still a no?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Zelenskyy Puts the Screws into Trump… from Kyiv!

411.044

Will France support the U.S. being compensated?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Zelenskyy Puts the Screws into Trump… from Kyiv!

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might be some strategy to that. I do think there's a quote method to the madness of buttering up a dictator who very much enjoys that to then find some sort of deal that is friendlier on your terms than maybe it would have been.

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Zelenskyy Puts the Screws into Trump… from Kyiv!

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Trump Gets Gut Punched by Arab Leaders in Public

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Up front now for an exclusive interview, the foreign minister and deputy prime minister of Jordan, Ayman Safadi, who is in the room for that crucial meeting between President Trump and King Abdullah of Jordan today. So I appreciate your time, Minister Safadi. So you just hear President Trump there say, and I quote him, there's a parcel of land in Jordan.

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Trump Gets Gut Punched by Arab Leaders in Public

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He said parcel of land in Jordan where the Palestinians from Gaza will go live. Is that the case?

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Trump Gets Gut Punched by Arab Leaders in Public

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Okay, so very clear on your plan, rebuild Gaza without moving Gazans out. And I don't want to put words in your mouth, but just to be clear, parcel of land in Jordan does not fit without it. It sounded like you were very clear that Trump said that before the meeting with King Abdullah. So do you think he changed his mind on this parcel of land in Jordan, or is it unclear at this time?

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And Mr. President, take it under what authority? It is sovereignty.

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Fox News Loses Control on Live TV as Trump Gets Worse

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During the campaign, Prime Minister Grimey talked about the American betrayal. How did you react? Canada decided not to shop in the American store as much. has before decided to partner with other countries?

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Canada Leaders Put the Screws in Trump in Public

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Canadians aren't usually the types to get angry, but how mad are Canadians this morning?

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Canada Leaders Put the Screws in Trump in Public

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I mean, your last segment, you hit on the tariffs, and I think that was a large reason why the market reacted to that. But we have to cut spending. We are $36 trillion in debt. I've only been in Congress for six years. When I first got elected, we were $20 trillion in debt. We put $16 trillion on the debt. We were running, just in the last six years, we were running a $2.5 trillion.

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Canada Leaders Put the Screws in Trump in Public

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to $3.5 trillion deficit every year. Our country and our economy can't handle that. The Treasury can't handle that. The American people can't handle that. We have got to get our fiscal house in order in Washington.

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Canada Leaders Put the Screws in Trump in Public

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And if that means a short-term pain for the country, then we're going to have to walk through that together to ensure that we put ourselves on a fiscal prudent path going into the next 10 years.

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MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 4/29/25

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And then the third executive order, which actually speaks to the heart of your question earlier about the Uber drivers, will be a – order directing the Department of Transportation to include English literacy tests for our truckers. This is a big problem in the trucking community that unless you're in that community, you might not know.

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MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 4/29/25

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But there's a lot of communication problems between truckers on the road with federal officials and local officials as well, which obviously is a public safety risk. So we're going to ensure that our truckers, who are the backbone of our economy, are all able to speak English. That's a very common sense policy in the United States of America.

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MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 4/29/25

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So the president will be signing that later this afternoon. Yeah, you're welcome. To the back in the yellow.

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Who's the first buyer?

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Who's the second?

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MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 2/10/25

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Why does Elon's financial disclosure remain secret?

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MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 2/10/25

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What are these people, many of them young staffers without government experience, doing with my private information? I mean, as we know that they've accessed private information about, for example, those who have received disaster relief and the DHS system. What can you tell us about that data, what they're doing with it, what they're accessing?

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MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 2/10/25

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Would the Palestinians have the right to return?

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What countries will those go on?

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And on steel, sir, are you ruling out then Nippon Steel having a 51% stake or higher? They won't have a majority?

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Senator Cory Booker Reacts to Market Crash and More

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Leader Thune, with respect to tariffs, the White House has said that an additional 50% tariff will go on China if retaliatory tariffs by China are not taken down. This means that, according to some estimates, the tariffs could reach as high as 104%. What do you say to that, and what do you say to the markets in particular, which are very rattled by all of these tariffs?

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Trump in Cover-Up Mode Over His Dark Past

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The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. Will that really happen?

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Trump in Cover-Up Mode Over His Dark Past

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So have you seen anything that you said, oh, my gosh?

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Trump in Cover-Up Mode Over His Dark Past

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Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison, and a lot of people want to know if she's going to turn in powerful people. I know you've talked in the past about Prince Andrew, and you've criticized Bill Clinton's behavior. I'm wondering, do you feel that she's going to turn in powerful men? How do you see that working out?

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FED UP Dems Finally PUT THE SCREWS in House GOP

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I'm sure we're about to get to the bottom of that. Why is he interested in Greenland?

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FED UP Dems Finally PUT THE SCREWS in House GOP

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Yeah, it's going to cost about one point five trillion, but it probably will pay off.

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FED UP Dems Finally PUT THE SCREWS in House GOP

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Some of your colleagues, your future colleagues in the Senate that say, he won. He's got a mandate. He deserves it. You know, everybody that he's chosen.

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FED UP Dems Finally PUT THE SCREWS in House GOP

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But I've also seen you've taken heat, especially online, social media.

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Wow! Fox News Gives Up on Trump in Shocking Twist

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Caroline, let's see if we can break a little news here. What's what's the timetable for the reduction in the tariffs against China? The president was ambiguous about it. Scott Besson seemed to suggest it wouldn't happen until negotiations are at least underway.

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Trump Holds Disaster Presser for Unthinkable Order

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Why should any American kid become a computer scientist?

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Trump Holds Disaster Presser for Unthinkable Order

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So you're not worried about any unsavory people coming in and taking it? Yeah, I'm worried about unsavory, in which case we're going to give them the money back and they get out. they'll be properly vetted.

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Trump Has Meltdown as His Agenda Completely Fails

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I have to ask you this. For impeachment, obviously, you have to have high crimes misdemeanors. What crime did the judge commit?

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Trump Has Meltdown as His Agenda Completely Fails

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Congressman Brandon Gill sharing that with us today. We do appreciate the time, Congressman. Thank you so much.

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Yikes! Trump Forces GOP to Humiliate Itself on Live TV

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I guess I'm just asking you, do you think that's enough for a worker to live on? I'm just trying to get a sense of your vision for what the standard of life for an American worker is.

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Yikes! Trump Forces GOP to Humiliate Itself on Live TV

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I understand that about Oregon, but I guess I would ask you, what is $7.25 an hour? That is what in an annual term? Do you know off the top of your head? Oh. It's not a math question. So I'm just trying to get a sense. So it's about $15,000 a year.

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So I guess I just want to ask you, do you think that there is a state in this country where someone can live comfortably on their own for $15,000 a year?

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But that's what I'm just trying to get a sense of from you is what your vision is.

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Trump Has Disaster Morning as Approval Plummets

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I have a plan to send troops to Gaza. Are you working on options for the president right now that would involve U.S. troops in Gaza?

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Trump Has Disaster Morning as Approval Plummets

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Do you know what they're looking at specifically at the Department of Defense right now?

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Trump Has Disaster Morning as Approval Plummets

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And are they going to cut Fort Knox?

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Trump Has Disaster Morning as Approval Plummets

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Do you know about that?

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Trump Has Disaster Morning as Approval Plummets

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Are they going to eliminate more national security positions, civilians there?

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Trump Has Disaster Morning as Approval Plummets

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we'll do a couple more sir do you think you can still pay for extending your tax cuts without cutting both medicaid and medicare yeah absolutely i think we're going to take in tremendous tariff money number one and number two you take a look at doge and you see what's happening we're saving billions of dollars

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Fox News in Total Panic as Trump Approval Falls

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Can you force nutritional change or can you just recommend it strongly?

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Trump Gets Rude Awakening as Zelenskyy Strikes Back

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Problem with what they presented. What was the issue with what the Americans showed you yesterday?

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Trump Gets Rude Awakening as Zelenskyy Strikes Back

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Trump Gets Rude Awakening as Zelenskyy Strikes Back

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How would you counter the perception, because Russia's pushing for this, obviously, they don't really hold true elections, that that would be a capitulation of some sort? How would you guard against potentially Russia installing a puppet government? And then finally, how would that new election have an impact on getting Zelensky to sign the rare earth minerals deal?

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Trump Gets Rude Awakening as Zelenskyy Strikes Back

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Trump Gets Rude Awakening as Zelenskyy Strikes Back

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Any message for Ukrainians who, after three years of fighting, might feel betrayed or disappointed at not having a seat at these initial talks in Saudi Arabia?

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Mexico Prez Destroys Trump After Tomato Threats

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How are you? It was just published by Times Magazine that you are among the 100 most influential people in the world.

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Canada Leaders Issues FINAL URGENT WARNING to Trump

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Let's play it. I understand Danielle Smith has posted online her sort of reaction to this and why she decided to communicate saying she can't support what's going on today because the idea is still being floated about putting an export tariff on our oil and gas. So what's your reaction to that? Why were you unable to bring her on board with this?

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MAGA Mike in Panic Mode as Bill Starts Blowing Up

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If this bill becomes law, are you concerned that Republicans could face a severe blowback in the elections next year?

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MAGA Mike in Panic Mode as Bill Starts Blowing Up

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Do you think some of the wealthier taxpayers should pay higher taxes?

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Trump Loses It After Shock Election Loss

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Sir, you said during the campaign you had concepts of a plan. Do you have an actual plan at this point for healthcare?

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Trump Loses It After Shock Election Loss

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Still just concepts? Do you have a fully developed plan? Let me explain.

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Fed Up World Leaders Smack Down Trump in Public

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You previously said that it's a real thing that Trump wants to annex Canada. How serious or urgent would you classify that threat?

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Trump Goes Nuts in AM and Caves as It All Collapses

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Secretary Lutnick, does the president want a rising stock market because We do have stock 6% off the highs and confidence is being shaken here a little bit around business. I know you guys wanted lower interest rates and you're getting that, but kind of for the wrong reasons because now there's worries about growth and potentially recession because of a trade war.

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Trump Goes Nuts in AM and Caves as It All Collapses

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According to U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents, only seized 43 pounds of fentanyl at the Canadian border last year. So is that a metric? Do we want to see that go down to zero? How are you judging when they've done enough?

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Trump Voters FREAK OUT as he DESTROYS THEIR LIFE

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I mean, you're an educator. You didn't vote for Trump eliminating federal funds.

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Furious World Leaders Destroy Trump on Trade War

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Yeah, your point about Trump's treatment of Canada is spot on. But there's been a political impact of that in Canada. It's helped the Canadian government. And likewise here, Donald Trump looms large over the election campaign, doesn't he? Labor is trying to smear Peter Dutton as some sort of Trumpian figure. Is that realistic?

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Republicans Freak Out as Dems Go on Offense

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that there's not going to be pay force for these things if it expands the deficit. And she said, yes, she believes that's the case. Is that what you see it as as well?

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Trump Loses It After Disaster He Caused

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Last thing for the people who look at this policy and say this is designed to put pressure on China. It's all designed to kind of put the squeeze on China. Is that a fair assessment? Are you trying to get China the table in a weakened negotiating state because that's the biggest adversary?

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Trump Loses It After Disaster He Caused

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And they're not official talks yet, right?

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Trump Loses It After Disaster He Caused

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Mr. President, thank you for your time. It's interesting that you brought up Harvard, because when people think about Harvard, what they're basically talking about is they're asking, what do you say to those who view your actions as an attack on academic freedom rather than a defense of fairness? What do you say to that?

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Denmark UNLEASHES FURY at Trump after CALL FROM HELL

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You recently introduced a bill. It gives President Trump the congressional authority to acquire Greenland. Tell us more about this.

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Denmark UNLEASHES FURY at Trump after CALL FROM HELL

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yesterday, Trump was asked if he'd rule out using military force to get control of Greenland and the Panama Canal and Trump would not rule that out. How would acquiring that land help everyday Americans better afford their day-to-day expenses?

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Judge Susan Crawford on New Developments in Wisconsin Supreme Court Race

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I want to talk about one of the hot-button issues, and that, of course, is same-sex marriage. How does Brad Schimel personally feel about same-sex marriage?

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Judge Susan Crawford on New Developments in Wisconsin Supreme Court Race

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Here, let me show this to you. But if you had been attorney general in, say, the 1950s in a state that did not allow interracial marriage, do you think the proper role of an attorney general then was to not put himself or herself into the mix and say, this is wrong? Even- Yeah, it is.

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Judge Susan Crawford on New Developments in Wisconsin Supreme Court Race

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Your job is to uphold the law, even if it's something that- We might look back in the future as observers. Well, it might be distasteful to me.

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Trump Gets Rude Awakening as Fired Workers Go Public

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I want to understand something because the grounds for termination in your case and so many others is basically a question of whether your continued employment was in the, quote, public interest. What is your reaction to that?

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Trump Gets Rude Awakening as Fired Workers Go Public

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So tell me about your job and why you wanted to work at the VA.

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Trump Gets Rude Awakening as Fired Workers Go Public

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Well, joining us tonight is Nelson Feliz Sr., a 30-year Army veteran who served as a first sergeant and spent more than a decade working for the Department of Veteran Affairs until he got a notice that he was being let go just a week ago. Nelson, thanks for joining us tonight. I'm sorry about the difficult situation that you're in right now. Tell us, what type of work did you do for the V.A. ?

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Trump Gets Rude Awakening as Fired Workers Go Public

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I gotcha. Yeah, important work. I'm sure you enjoyed doing it, doing it for 10 years. I know you wrote a letter appealing your termination. Tell us about it. How did you find out you were being let go, and what reason were you given?

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Trump Gets Rude Awakening as Fired Workers Go Public

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Oh, yeah. Shocking. I'm sure to see that. Did they say it was for performance or did they give you any type of reason or did they just say you're out?

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Rep. Brendan Boyle on Trump’s Big Disastrous Budget

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What do you want him to do? What do you want him to say today?

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Rep. Brendan Boyle on Trump’s Big Disastrous Budget

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Make Barbies cheaper?

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Rep. Brendan Boyle on Trump’s Big Disastrous Budget

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Tell me more about that. Have they gotten expensive?

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Rep. Brendan Boyle on Trump’s Big Disastrous Budget

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Trump Has Disaster Sunday as His Regime Scrambles

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Another headline, there's chatter about President Trump seeking a third term. He has said, quote, there are methods. Is this just one of his epic trolls or does he or do you believe there is a method short of amending the Constitution by which he could seek a third term?

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Trump's Past Secrets Exposed by Own Failed Stunt

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Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison, and a lot of people want to know if she's going to turn in powerful people. And I know you've talked in the past about Prince Andrew, and you've criticized Bill Clinton's behavior. I'm wondering, do you feel that she's going to turn in powerful men? How do you see that working out?

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Trump's Past Secrets Exposed by Own Failed Stunt

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Trump is surrounded by women as music blares in the background. After a while, Trump goes to greet three new guests. Among them, the financier Jeffrey Epstein. More than a decade before his guilty plea on state prostitution charges. Later in the footage, Trump is seen talking to Epstein and another man as women are dancing in front of them.

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Trump alternates between dancing and pointing out women to Epstein and the other man and telling Epstein about the cameras. Though exactly what they say is difficult to understand as they discuss the women and their appearances, Trump gestures to one and appears to say to Epstein, look at her back there. She's hot.

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Trump's Past Secrets Exposed by Own Failed Stunt

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And then Trump says something else into Epstein's ear that makes him double over with laughter. But as the president says now, he never liked Epstein.

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Trump's Past Secrets Exposed by Own Failed Stunt

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Fox News alert, according to the Washington Times, Kash Patel's FBI opening an investigation into James Comey. The Times reports that Comey launched an off-the-books honeypot operation against candidate Donald Trump. According to a whistleblower, he sent two female undercovers to infiltrate Trump's 2016 campaign and told them to act as honeypots, spies who use sex to get what they want.

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And the honeypots ingratiated themselves into the top ranks of the campaign. If true, that means the Obama administration was conducting multiple phony investigations into Trump without any evidence. The whistleblower says FBI employees were told to shut their mouth about the operation. And one of the agents was transferred to the CIA so she couldn't testify.

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Trump's Past Secrets Exposed by Own Failed Stunt

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This investigation into Comey isn't about revenge. It's about justice. Cash and Bongino are going to get answers.

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Dem Candidate for Florida Special Election Surges (Josh Weil Interview)

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She's a Venezuelan immigrant now terrified of being deported. Are you afraid of your son walking to school?

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Dem Candidate for Florida Special Election Surges (Josh Weil Interview)

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yes truly yes what are you afraid of that they'll pick him up and he won't have time to call me also that it might happen when i'm not with him or he's not with me that is the worst fear i have like so many other venezuelans she cheered when donald trump was elected because of his tough approach to policies such as his promise to crack down on a violent venezuelan criminal organization

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Dem Candidate for Florida Special Election Surges (Josh Weil Interview)

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You supported Donald Trump, even though you couldn't vote for him.

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Dem Candidate for Florida Special Election Surges (Josh Weil Interview)

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What she didn't expect is for those policies to throw her life in limbo and stoke fear in her community. Canol is one of hundreds of thousands of Venezuelan immigrants who were granted temporary protected status, or TPS, under the Biden administration. President Trump wiped that away for all Venezuelans. When they said the TPS is going to be revoked, were you surprised?

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Trump INSTANTLY falls into TRAP Set by China…HE’S DUMB!

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in your conversation about Ukraine. You asked him to get involved in helping settle that. Can you tell us about that?

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Trump Runs to Golf Like a Coward as USA Rises Up

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Before we get there, I want to ask one last question on the cuts. Do we need to speak in a more empathetic way? Because that trillion dollars of spending flows into someone's pocket. Some percentage of that pays people a salary, and they live on that income. And I think a lot of the, okay, I think this is important for you to highlight because a lot of people are reacting.

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Trump Holds Presser in AM and It Quickly Goes Off the Rails

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Here, this is all domestic. But as you know, you used to work at Costco. The big chains, they get a lot of their beef from Canada and Mexico. If you get a 25% tariff on that, what's that do?

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Trump Holds Presser in AM and It Quickly Goes Off the Rails

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You on board with that?

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Mexico Prez Hammers Trump as His Weakness Shows

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You previously said that it's a real thing that Trump wants to annex Canada. How serious or urgent would you classify that threat?

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Mexico Prez Hammers Trump as His Weakness Shows

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But you don't think it's President Biden's fault, not President Putin's?

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Fox News Can’t Hide as Trump Collapse Accelerates

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What is he asking of Americans at this time? He talked about transition costs, transition problems. Is he asking something specific for Americans to do?

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Fox News Can’t Hide as Trump Collapse Accelerates

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Cheryl, talk to me about the attention that the left is placing on what seems to me a misplaced target. So they're obsessed now with getting Elon Musk out of there after the 130 days that you can only work per 365 with no attention paid to the astronomical figures. I read the ridiculousness of who we've been paying in the form of waste, fraud and abuse. Why is there no attention on that?

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Fox News Can’t Hide as Trump Collapse Accelerates

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And a thank you given to Elon Musk.

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Fox News Can’t Hide as Trump Collapse Accelerates

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How about a thank you for the transparency that he and the Doge team have put out there. You can go onto the website right now. They've got a live tracker for Doge and it shows dollar per dollar how much they have saved the American taxpayer. That is you, America. This is volunteer work being done by the world's richest man.

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Fox News Can’t Hide as Trump Collapse Accelerates

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Which is the audacity of Governor Walz to single out Elon Musk as like a bad billionaire. When we talk about contributions to society, he's done nothing but help this society. Medical developments, rescuing astronauts and more. And yet George Soros, For example, a billionaire that has led directly to the destruction of society deaths, and yet that's who Walls is calling to demonize?

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Fox News Can’t Hide as Trump Collapse Accelerates

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Yeah, I know a lot of countries are still at 10%. So many of those products, maybe we can buy from other countries.

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Red States Freak Out as Trump Royally Screws Them

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Yes, sir. Senator Kennedy, if you ask me, you're on message. I appreciate you coming back.

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Red States Freak Out as Trump Royally Screws Them

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Here, play this clip. How do you read it, Senator Kennedy? You happy with it? Does it need improvement and where?

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Canada PM Destroys Trump and Calls Urgent Election

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President Trump on these things, and it wouldn't be as tumultuous as what we're seeing right now. Is that something that you think is likely here? Are the Canadian people ready to go back the other way here and go away from the liberal side that we've seen under Trudeau and whoever replaces him?

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Canada PM Destroys Trump and Calls Urgent Election

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The G7 is not exactly strong. I think Trudeau might resign today. Are you looking forward to working with Pierre Polivere, the new guy?

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How Democrats are Ready to Win Back State Races

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Did you vote for President Trump?

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How Democrats are Ready to Win Back State Races

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Here, this is all domestic. But as you know, you used to work at Costco. The big chains, they get a lot of their beef from Canada and Mexico. If you get a 25% tariff on that, what's that do?

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How Democrats are Ready to Win Back State Races

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You on board with that?

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How Democrats are Ready to Win Back State Races

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It's estimated at least 6,000 veterans have lost their government jobs over the past month. Kind of ironic. Many of them are disabled vets, like Stephen Dow.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

How Democrats are Ready to Win Back State Races

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Dow served in the Air Force for 20 years. A blast in Afghanistan left him with a broken neck. Why did you decide to look for a job with the federal government?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

How Democrats are Ready to Win Back State Races

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He started working as an executive assistant at the Pentagon nine months ago. I mean, your review says you have a mastery of technology. Steve sets the standard for productivity. You were good at your job.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

How Democrats are Ready to Win Back State Races

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Did you vote for President Trump?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

New German Chancellor Rips Trump in Acceptance Speech

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Did you have an intelligence officer or anyone else with you? That's an extraordinary amount of face time with Putin.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Trump Loses Control as Approval Rapidly Crashes

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For people who may not know, I mean, they give advice to the military about what is lawful and what isn't. Not surprisingly, there's been some backlash to those who are worried about their removal. One Georgetown law professor says this. Trump also firing the Army, Navy and Air Force Jags. In some ways, that's even more chilling than firing the four stars.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Trump Loses Control as Approval Rapidly Crashes

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It's what you do when you're planning to break the law. You get rid of any lawyers who might try to slow you down. Your response to her.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Trump Loses Control as Approval Rapidly Crashes

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But fair to say Russia attacked unprovoked into Ukraine three years ago tomorrow.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Canadian MP Charlie Angus on Canada Making Trump Pay

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Do you understand why the Canadians are taking such umbrage at these comments coming from the president?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Republicans Lose It on Live TV over Trump Destroying GOP

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You talked about the fact that this might not be confined to Newark. Are there other airports that you are concerned about right now?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Republicans Lose It on Live TV over Trump Destroying GOP

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Bottom line, is it safe to fly in the United States right now?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Republicans Lose It on Live TV over Trump Destroying GOP

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I want you to listen to a part of my interview with President Trump when he talked about what this could mean for supplies. Take a listen.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Republicans Lose It on Live TV over Trump Destroying GOP

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Senator, what do you say to people who hear those words and feel like the president is telling them to ration their goods?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Republicans Lose It on Live TV over Trump Destroying GOP

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You expressed real concerns that prices have increased at stores like the Dollar Tree, for example, which you talked about how important a store like that is to Wyoming, to rural communities in particular. And now the Dollar Tree says that the tariffs could actually push them to raise prices again and that they may not be able to stock some of their goods.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Republicans Lose It on Live TV over Trump Destroying GOP

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What do you say, Senator, to the people of Wyoming who hear that, who rely on stores like the dollar store and they're worried?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Republicans Lose It on Live TV over Trump Destroying GOP

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You're saying some were fired, some were brought back. People will hear that, think it sounds a little bit chaotic. I guess the bottom line is, did Elon Musk ask you to cut air traffic controllers directly?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Republicans Lose It on Live TV over Trump Destroying GOP

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Did Elon Musk, though, initially ask you to cut air traffic controllers? And did you dispute that? Did you have a disagreement with him?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

GOP Leaders Crash and Burn in Weekend from Hell

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Let's talk about Elon Musk for a minute. His critics are saying that he is usurping powers that should belong to the president or should belong to the Congress. The Congress has the power of the purse. He's the one who's been cutting positions in various government agencies. Where do you come down on that?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

GOP Leaders Crash and Burn in Weekend from Hell

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You know, some people say he's going too far.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

GOP Leaders Crash and Burn in Weekend from Hell

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Let's talk about Elon Musk for a minute. His critics are saying that he is usurping powers that should belong to the president or should belong to the Congress. The Congress has the power of the purse. He's the one who's been cutting positions in various government agencies. Where do you come down on that?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

GOP Leaders Crash and Burn in Weekend from Hell

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You know, some people say he's going too far.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Trump Blows Up the USA With Fatal Plan

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President Trump promised that he was going to improve the economy starting on day one. He said prices are going to come down. More than 160 million Americans, Mr. Secretary, as you know, are invested in the market. Many of them have spent their lives saving for their retirement.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Trump Blows Up the USA With Fatal Plan

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What is your message to Americans who want to retire right now and who've just seen their lifetime savings drop significantly?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Fox News in Complete Panic as Trump Can't Be Saved

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What are the chances of holding them accountable despite Biden pardoning his family members?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Fox News in Complete Panic as Trump Can't Be Saved

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Do you know whether or not President Trump is on board with pursuing the Biden family?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

MeidasTouch RESPONDS to Trump COLLAPSING TERM

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Mr. President, when you're back here in Davos next year, will there be then a peace agreement with Ukraine and Russia by then?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

MeidasTouch RESPONDS to BREAKING NEWS before DAY 1 - 1/16/25

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Any specific policies proposed by the president-elect that you expect will increase prices for families?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

MeidasTouch RESPONDS to BREAKING NEWS before DAY 1 - 1/16/25

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So that's a no. If the president-elect were to propose a policy that you believe will increase prices, would you advise against it?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

MeidasTouch RESPONDS to BREAKING NEWS before DAY 1 - 1/16/25

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Well, I have limited time. So if you believe that a policy that is proposed by President Trump would increase prices Would you advise him against doing it? Yes or no?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

MeidasTouch RESPONDS to BREAKING NEWS before DAY 1 - 1/16/25

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All right, let's move on to when we met prior to the hearing, you told me that President Biden was responsible for increased prices over the past four years, something we can litigate, but I don't want to right here. By the same token, I assume you would agree that if prices increase in the next four years, President-elect Trump would be responsible.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 5/9/25

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Because business has slowed down, as you mentioned, we're seeing, but we're seeing as a result, the ports here in the US, the traffic has really slowed and now thousands of dock workers and truck drivers are worried about their jobs. Is that-

The MeidasTouch Podcast

MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 5/9/25

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Let's play. The tax bill, will we get it before Memorial Day?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 5/9/25

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Will we get it before the end of the year, quickly?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 5/9/25

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Oh boy, that's bad news. Senator, thank you for that. Appreciate it. Have a good weekend. Appreciate you coming on.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Trump Spirals in Morning Over Terrible News

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What do you want him to do? What do you want him to say today?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Trump Spirals in Morning Over Terrible News

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Make Barbies cheaper?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Trump Spirals in Morning Over Terrible News

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Tell me more about that. Have they gotten expensive?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Trump Spirals in Morning Over Terrible News

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The MeidasTouch Podcast

MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 4/4/25

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Kevin, great to have you with us. Your reaction to that. Thank you. Your reaction to that market down. I think it's at its lowest of the days and about fifteen hundred for what that is worth in the mix here. What would you what are you talking about in the White House? Is there any panic about what's happening at this point or what is the general feeling about what people should know about this?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 4/4/25

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I want to show this tweet by hedge fund billionaire Bill Ackman, who used to support a lot of Democrats. But during the election, he switched over, listened to what President Trump had to say, and began to side with him. He says, sometimes the best strategy in a negotiation is convincing the other side that you're crazy. Do you think that's true here? And there's been a lot of discussion.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 4/4/25

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Oh, there's going to be no negotiations at Howard Lutnick. He's standing firm on all of this. And then it feels certainly like there is some negotiation going on. Is there or isn't there?

The Moth

The Moth Radio Hour: The Future Looks Bright

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So are you still working with Southwest?

The Moth

The Moth Radio Hour: The Future Looks Bright

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So where did this dream of like wanting to work for an airline come from? When did you start? When did you start knowing that that was what you wanted to do?

The Nerve with Maureen Callahan

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You've spoken very openly about the fact that you think you've been punished. for leaving the monarchy. Who specifically do you think is trying to punish you?

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Speaking of your family, your father is ill with cancer. Will you continue to visit him alone without the family? Where does this leave things moving forward, the ability of your children to see their grandfather?

The Nerve with Maureen Callahan

Bill Maher Uses Diddy to Blame the Victims, "And Just Like That" Premiere Flop, and Frenemy Tactics

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As a kid, I saw you on television, and I'm amazed to read that in some of those performances with him, you had blood in your mouth when you were singing. Yeah.

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Yeah, yes, I heard that too. Yeah. Yeah, fascinating.

The Nerve with Maureen Callahan

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Take a look at this. It seems to me like one of the points you're trying to make in the book is that it doesn't have to be a mutually exclusive thing, that you can be in love with Diane and at the same time be attracted to men.

The Nerve with Maureen Callahan

Sean Penn's Violent Past Exposed, Disturbing Diddy Trial Details, And Barry Diller's PR Tour

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When I think about your family, I see beautiful children and your husband. Are there ways that you celebrate joy in your family, and how do you do that?

The Peter Attia Drive

#338 ‒ Peter’s takeaways on aerobic exercise and VO2 max, insulin resistance, rising healthcare costs, treating children with autism and ADHD, and strength training | Quarterly Podcast Summary #4

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Let's say the month leading up to it. So the past month, have you changed your training at all? Are you doing anything in particular for it?

The Peter Attia Drive

#338 ‒ Peter’s takeaways on aerobic exercise and VO2 max, insulin resistance, rising healthcare costs, treating children with autism and ADHD, and strength training | Quarterly Podcast Summary #4

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In general, so if you haven't changed anything, just as a reminder for people, what is your VO2 max training look like in a typical week? Is that one day a week?

The Peter Attia Drive

#338 ‒ Peter’s takeaways on aerobic exercise and VO2 max, insulin resistance, rising healthcare costs, treating children with autism and ADHD, and strength training | Quarterly Podcast Summary #4

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And I always like when we talk VO2 max training, I think back to one of the actually first video podcasts we ever did with Alex Hutchinson. Do you kind of want to walk people through? I think a lot of times, When you think of VO2 max training or Tabata training or like going all out, a lot of times people kind of lose sight at how hard that actually is.

The Peter Attia Drive

#338 ‒ Peter’s takeaways on aerobic exercise and VO2 max, insulin resistance, rising healthcare costs, treating children with autism and ADHD, and strength training | Quarterly Podcast Summary #4

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Can you remind people, let's say you're doing a four-minute interval. You're not starting at four minutes, going as hard as you can, and then trying to sustain it. Can you walk through how you think about the energy you put out spread across four minutes?

The Peter Attia Drive

#338 ‒ Peter’s takeaways on aerobic exercise and VO2 max, insulin resistance, rising healthcare costs, treating children with autism and ADHD, and strength training | Quarterly Podcast Summary #4

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Got it. Last follow-up on this is you talked about the consumption and like the increase in performance as a result of what they're able to consume when they're performing. How much of a difference do you think that makes or how can you explain it? A lot of lay people probably aren't thinking about that consumption or their mixture.

The Peter Attia Drive

#338 ‒ Peter’s takeaways on aerobic exercise and VO2 max, insulin resistance, rising healthcare costs, treating children with autism and ADHD, and strength training | Quarterly Podcast Summary #4

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I know a lot of endurance athletes are, but how much of a game changer do you think it is to have that increase in what they're able to put in their body during events?

The Peter Attia Drive

#338 ‒ Peter’s takeaways on aerobic exercise and VO2 max, insulin resistance, rising healthcare costs, treating children with autism and ADHD, and strength training | Quarterly Podcast Summary #4

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Got it. All right. Anything else on Olaf before we move on? No. Perfect. So next is Ralph on insulin resistance, which I think you said was one of the more interesting interviews you've ever done, correct?

The Peter Attia Drive

#338 ‒ Peter’s takeaways on aerobic exercise and VO2 max, insulin resistance, rising healthcare costs, treating children with autism and ADHD, and strength training | Quarterly Podcast Summary #4

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Anytime, anytime. So today is going to be another quarterly podcast summary episode. A lot of words. Basically what it means is we look at past episodes, cover what the main takeaways are, what your favorite insights were, Any changes you made based on behavior to yourself, how you work with patients, how you think about things, anything of that nature from those episodes.

The Peter Attia Drive

#338 ‒ Peter’s takeaways on aerobic exercise and VO2 max, insulin resistance, rising healthcare costs, treating children with autism and ADHD, and strength training | Quarterly Podcast Summary #4

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The other thing to say as a reminder, it's meant as more to augment the episodes, not necessarily as a replacement. And we get a lot of feedback where people will listen to this and then re-listen to some of the original episodes and find a lot of value in it. Today we'll look at OLAV, talking about training, performance, VO2 max.

The Peter Attia Drive

#338 ‒ Peter’s takeaways on aerobic exercise and VO2 max, insulin resistance, rising healthcare costs, treating children with autism and ADHD, and strength training | Quarterly Podcast Summary #4

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Ralph, looking at insulin resistance, type 2 diabetes, metformin, SGLT2 inhibitors, other drugs. Sam, looking at healthcare, trying to understand why healthcare in the US is nearly two times per capita of any other developed nation. Trena, looking at autism, ADHD, anxiety. We have Mike, looking at resistance training and kind of diving into everything revolving that.

The Peter Attia Drive

#338 ‒ Peter’s takeaways on aerobic exercise and VO2 max, insulin resistance, rising healthcare costs, treating children with autism and ADHD, and strength training | Quarterly Podcast Summary #4

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So huge variety of topics, a lot of different things that I think people should find interest in. And I think we'll get it started with Olav. So do you kind of want to start going through your episode with Olav? This was obviously the second time he was back on. A little behind the scenes.

The Peter Attia Drive

#338 ‒ Peter’s takeaways on aerobic exercise and VO2 max, insulin resistance, rising healthcare costs, treating children with autism and ADHD, and strength training | Quarterly Podcast Summary #4

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We talked beforehand about, hey, let's try and make it a little less technical because the first one was pretty technical. And I think looking back, you probably made it more technical in the first. So I think that's just by nature how you and Olav are always going to be. So maybe break down for people what you learned and what your biggest insights were from that.

The Peter Attia Drive

#338 ‒ Peter’s takeaways on aerobic exercise and VO2 max, insulin resistance, rising healthcare costs, treating children with autism and ADHD, and strength training | Quarterly Podcast Summary #4

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So Peter, just a few follow-up questions there. Let's just start with the VO2 max training. So in that protocol, it actually is like a decent warmup that you're having people do. I remember when I've done VO2 max testing, I don't know if they even really had me do any type of warmup. You just kind of went, hit the treadmill and then started going.

The Rachel Maddow Show

Trump is a repeat loser as his slash-and-burn rampage collides with U.S. law

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So by a show of fingers, who approves of what Elon Musk has been doing in the Trump administration? None of you. Who disapproves? All seven of you. Cheryl, tell me why you disapprove of what Musk is doing.

The Rachel Maddow Show

Trump is a repeat loser as his slash-and-burn rampage collides with U.S. law

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So you voted for Trump in 2024, but you've been very critical of him so far in our conversation. Someone watching this might say, why did you vote for the guy?

The Rachel Maddow Show

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So someone listening to you folks might say, he was president for four years. You knowingly chose to put him back in office, having watched him in office for four years. It sounds like a number of you are surprised by what he's doing. How can you be surprised?

The Rachel Maddow Show

Media reports prompt Trump to end plan to brief Musk on secret potential war plans for China

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So by the end of the year you're saying someone's going to sit in a Tesla without touching the steering wheel, tap in, New York, off it goes, won't have to ever touch the wheel by the end of 2017?

The Tim Dillon Show

432 - Delta Payoffs & The Hamas Parade

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I mean, this is, it's just... That same question, they're also talking about you guys are going to end Social Security, you're going to end Medicare, you're going to end these things. I don't imagine that conversation has been had with the president, and that's the plan.

The Tim Dillon Show

432 - Delta Payoffs & The Hamas Parade

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It's utopia. You would want to be in here.

The Tim Dillon Show

432 - Delta Payoffs & The Hamas Parade

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Play the fool. What are you doing? Were you injured? Just tell me how you're doing.

The Tim Dillon Show

432 - Delta Payoffs & The Hamas Parade

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Maybe just start from as the plane is approaching. Tell us what happened.

The Tim Dillon Show

432 - Delta Payoffs & The Hamas Parade

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So were you on the right side of the plane or the left side of the plane?

The Tucker Carlson Show

George Friedman Predicts the Next 50 Years of Global Affairs and the Importance of Space Domination

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Feels like, though, there's got to be some hard pivot or something. You know, there's some disaster that resets people's expectations.

The Tucker Carlson Show

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The Tucker Carlson Show

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So typically released in my mind, the storm entails war, that there's not really a reset. I mean, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, the Ottoman Empire, the British Empire all kind of reset and ended, you know, in 1918 at the end of the First World War. Then the Second World War resets again.

The Tucker Carlson Show

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And I mean, do you think it's necessary to go through some sort of global conflict in order to reshuffle empires? Yeah.

The Tucker Carlson Show

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So, I think you're saying that someone like Trump was inevitable in this moment.

The Tucker Carlson Show

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Do you think that there needs to be a war or will be a war between the United States and China to prove dominance? China can't go to war with us.

The Tucker Carlson Show

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So, it's interesting because I think that the growing consensus is in the United States that China is too powerful to contain, that it's just inexorably going to be the leader of the world and there's something we can do about it.

The Tucker Carlson Show

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So I wonder if I mean, what you're saying is so obviously true. And I think that smart people are concerned about that. And I wonder if where we find ourselves isn't also a product of our economic assumptions that, you know, capital should be free to move and that, you know, you shouldn't.

The Tucker Carlson Show

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do anything inefficiently, and it's not as efficient to make pharmaceuticals in New Jersey as it is to make them in China, so they're now made in China, but we have to have them here, maybe our economic system changes with the realization that it hasn't actually served us very well.

The Tucker Carlson Show

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The Tucker Carlson Show

George Friedman Predicts the Next 50 Years of Global Affairs and the Importance of Space Domination

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If that's the case, then you have no way of knowing where the animal grew up, how it was raised, what it ate, what chemicals big food pumped into it to increase its profits, what kind of drugs it was injected with. That's all kept secret, meaning you can never really know what you're eating. That's disgusting. Merriweather Farms is a far better option. It's totally straightforward.

The Tucker Carlson Show

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The Tucker Carlson Show

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The Tucker Carlson Show

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The Tucker Carlson Show

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The Tucker Carlson Show

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You know, there's some disaster that resets people's expectations.

The Tucker Carlson Show

George Friedman Predicts the Next 50 Years of Global Affairs and the Importance of Space Domination

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But you don't think there's a danger of collapse, like total collapse?

The Tucker Carlson Show

George Friedman Predicts the Next 50 Years of Global Affairs and the Importance of Space Domination

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we are and i called it an operatic country mostly we don't go to the opera but every 50 years we hold an opera that is amazing do you are you concerned that the united states will be um sucked into a global conflict in the next three or four years either in eastern europe middle east or asia

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You spent a lot, you know, many, many years at Stratfor. And Stratfor is often described as like a private intel agency. I don't know if that's fair or not. Sounds fair. What's your view of the role of American intel agencies in the world? Can Donald Trump actually run the country without reforming them? How powerful are they?

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I mean, that describes a kind of a government, actually, that exists independent from the governments it supposedly serves. Right.

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Irritated people now have all sorts of intelligence and the CIA is not in danger of being shut down or even its budget examined like we have no idea what the budget is, of course. And everyone I know who's, you know, on, say, the Intel Committee is a loyal servant of the CIA. So I don't we're we're nowhere near anything like that. But my last question is kind of a bigger question.

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Do you think as a student of history that it's possible to wind down an empire without great suffering and humiliation? Can you just sort of gradually pull back?

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George, thank you for doing this. So you have made a career of predicting the future, and I think that you've done a better job than anyone I've met in predicting sort of the big picture movements of nations. Clearly we're in, and I hope we can talk about this in a transition away from the post-war order, but I just want to start at the end.

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Interesting. And you think the Pentagon deliberately overstates Chinese capabilities in order to justify its budgets? The Pentagon would never do that.

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Where do you think the United States will be in 50 years?

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So you're from Brooklyn. There are a lot of American-born Brooklyn people, a lot of Caribbean people, hardworking, not making much money. They're not getting free hotels. They're not getting housing vouchers or free cell phones or free airplane tickets. Illegal aliens are getting them. What's their perspective on this?

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I got to admit, I'll just admit it. I thought it was pretty funny when they started trucking illegals here because I don't live in New York, so I have to deal with the consequences. because it is such a liberal city, but mostly because it's a sanctuary city. Right.

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Which basically committed an act of insurrection against the federal government by ignoring federal law, kind of what the Confederates did at Fort Sumter, except even more outrageous. And so isn't there a sense in which New York kind of deserves this? It was a sanctuary city.

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And so it's- So just to be clear for people who haven't read the indictment, you are accused of being bribed by the Turkish government to allow the Turkish president or prime minister, pardon my not remembering,

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Right, but I mean, you could say that of anybody breaking federal law. I mean, there could be someone indicted on terror charges or a murderer on the lam. And if New York harbors him, it's harboring a criminal, it's violating federal law. And that is a form of insurrection, right? You're saying we're not following the laws of the United States of America.

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Why shouldn't Washington send troops here, like immediately, and make you obey, as Eisenhower did to Central High School in Little Rock in the 50s when they ignored Brown versus Board? You can't be out of compliance with federal law without getting the 101st Airborne, don't you think?

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Well, then why isn't it fair for the states that are still part of the United States and are obeying federal law to send all of their illegals here because you guys welcome them. I mean, and you can pay for it.

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But you said it was a minute ago. I mean, I get what you're saying, and I think it— It sounds good, but I think we just discovered why it's not good because it's the volume. Like I think probably 99% of the immigrants who are wrecking your city are great people who have good, you know, they're not bad people, but they're just too many of them and you can't afford it.

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That's what I'm saying. Maybe not be a sanctuary city. Maybe to say we're going to follow federal law like everybody else.

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Yeah, and I know you always hear that about the lack of workers, and it's clearly true. I mean, there is a labor crisis in the country. Obviously, every employer says it, and it's real. On the other hand, there are a lot of Americans who aren't working for whatever reason. And among native-born African-Americans, young men, the number's like over 50%. It's awful.

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So rather than just say, well, we're just going to import people from Honduras or Paraguay or whatever, why don't we say, let's get our people working instead?

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Well, because the more immigration you have, the smaller the percentage of Americans who work. I mean, that's true in every country with mass immigration. The native population stops working when you flood the country with foreigners. And I don't know why that's not obvious to everybody, but it is true. And it's particularly true for African-Americans.

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And I just think it's weird that nobody seems to notice or care.

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So you get a call from Turkish government and they say Turkish officials want to occupy their own consulate, which is being built in New York, hasn't received a fire inspection yet. You call FDNY and say, hey, can you, you know, the government wants to occupy their own building. I'm the mayor. It's another country. They want to occupy their own building.

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So what I see the conflict, like big picture, I know you feel this every day, I don't know if you'll admit it, is the conflict between the people who pay for everything in politics, not just on the Democratic side, by the way, also Republican side, but they're all rich white liberals, just to be honest. Right. And then everybody else. And it does seem like the values are just in conflict.

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Like the people who pay for campaigns, not just yours, but everybody's, could care less like what the subways are like. And they could care less about the downstream effects of education. Like public schools, they don't send their kids to public schools. They don't care. Do you see that maybe this isn't a coalition that can continue?

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I mean, I was in Miami last week, which is, you know, it's totally transformed. If you haven't been to Miami recently, it's like everyone you heard. I was with New Yorkers actually there, because they were all there for New Year's. And a lot of them live there now.

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And they're bringing their finance money down there, which is the single largest private sector employer in your city, of course, is banking.

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And by far, and they're moving out. And so like, how do you pay for a city of 8 million people if an increasing percentage of the population is poor? If the rich people are leaving, which they are, like, how do you do that?

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Can you go ahead and do the fire inspection? There's no evidence that the building was a fire trap or out of compliance with any fire regulation. Is this correct? Exactly. Right. So it's a weird thing to be indicted for.

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Why don't you just send the cops? Get off the street. It's not your side. You don't own the side.

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No, but I'm just saying, like, I'm not saying- But we're sued because of it. Yeah, but so what?

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Don't get me... No, but just make... What are you going to do about it, Mr. Legal Aid guy? You banned guns. Like, only the cops have guns. And we're not allowing people to live on the sidewalk or self-vent on all the kids. Like, sorry, cup of shit. Why don't you do that?

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Kind of go full fascist a little bit. People would love you if you did that. You've thought about that.

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But why don't you put the junkies in their houses? Miss legal aid lawyer, if you're so competitive. Like, how many junkies do you have living in your house? Zero. But you expect taxpayers in Queens to pay for shelter for junkies? Like, what?

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I still hear people saying, everyone says New York is getting better, you know, low bar. But it's still, the subways are scary because there are a lot of crazy people on the subways. I saw a picture today of people waiting for a train and they're all standing with their backs against the wall so no one pushes them. Daniel Penny tried to save a man's life.

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He gets indicted for doing the right, obviously doing the right thing. What do you do about that?

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But the prosecutors don't... I mean, I keep reading, you know, some guy gets picked up, he's been arrested 47 times for violent crimes, not prosecuted. Like, that's not... sustainable, like civilization can't exist under those circumstances.

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So how is it that those people don't get put away? They keep doing it.

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You know who they are. You've got some of the worst prosecutors in the country. George Soros paid for them, as you know. And why not just call them out and say people died because of that prosecutor?

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Yeah, and why do you let people smoke weed on the street here? It smells like a slum. If you want to smoke weed, just go to your apartment and watch TV or whatever. But why do you have people blowing weed on your face on the street? Has that made anyone's life better at all?

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They say they're high. So a small number of people run all the weed supply chains and the retail, and they're making a ton of money, and everyone's invested in it. Private equity's all up in it. I'm sure they're handing out money to politicians here. They are everywhere else in the country. But it's clearly hurting people, and it makes the place smell like Islam. I mean, it's disgusting.

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And everyone knows that. And why can't anyone do anything about it?

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This is a liberal vision. You want to do weird stuff at home. We're not going to bother you. We're not going to ask any questions, but it's kind of up to you because it's your life. That's kind of the liberal idea. Don't do it on the street. You want to have a parade? Put your junk away at the pride parade. Don't have sex with people in ATMs. Don't smoke weed on the street.

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If you're a violent, crazy person, don't bark at people on the subway or push them in front of trains. Just keep it indoors. Why can't New York, arrive at that.

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But you wonder, is that far right to say go do your weird shit at home? I don't think that's far right, is it?

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I totally agree with that. I mean, I'm just for the record, I'm kind of against all immigration right now. We have too much of it. But I will also say I've never seen an African immigrant do anything like that. Like they're not marching around with their junk out in parades or whatever. Like we've buttoned down people coming into the country.

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And the longer they stay here, the more they decide, like, I got to do this stuff on the sidewalk. I mean, it is it's a very specific situation. affluent liberal culture that promotes doing all that stuff in public. And I'm wondering why, like, why are they in charge of everything?

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Well, the weird thing is, from the Washington perspective, where I'm from, is that you're under indictment for allowing foreign governments, Turkey, not North Korea, by the way, or Iran, but like a member of NATO, allowing them to upgrade your flights.

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It does seem that way. So you're being challenged, supposedly, and I think it's true, by Andrew Cuomo, the former governor. What do you make of that?

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You were here in the 90s when the city reached peak crime, 92, 93. Then Giuliani comes in. Everyone hates Giuliani now, and he's being destroyed by lawsuits. But the truth is, crime just went right off a cliff. You were there. And the idea was pretty simple. It's like, we're just not going to let quality of life crime slide anymore.

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And if you'll commit a small crime, you're more likely to commit a big crime. That was the idea. Jack Maple and the whole, you were there.

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What are you expecting with this indictment? Do you think, I mean, is there going to be a trial? When is that going to be? What is the penalty that you're facing? How does this play out to the extent you can explain?

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Pretty much every member of Congress takes almost every single 535 House and Senate takes flights to other countries hosted by foreign governments and are given in effect tens of thousands of dollars of goods and services by those governments every single time. upgrades, police protection, motorcades. No one's ever been indicted for that. That's less than what you did. Are you aware of that?

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You could do 30 years for taking flight upgrades? This is real- Do you wish you'd flown coach in retrospect?

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But you're not going to let those people drive into the city without paying a big tax?

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Why not let people drive in your city? Okay, here's my take on congestion pricing. This is the bicycle lobby from the west side who doesn't believe in cars in the first place, exerting undue influence once again on the mayor's office and shafting the people in Westchester, the outer boroughs just want to drive their minivans into the city to do a day's labor.

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Were you involved with his wife at all? No, I mean, you don't have to answer.

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into deep New York stuff. Drowning in it. I don't even understand what you're talking about. But can we both agree that people who ride bicycles should have no say in governance in the city of- No, they should have say. Minor, minor say.

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Amen. I agree with that. But if you're going to, basically, this MTA rule will force people onto public transportation, buses, and particularly the subway system, biggest in the country.

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Isn't it fair that the subway be like perfect?

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If you force people to take the subway, there should be zero crime. Zero crazy people barking at you. You stare at someone in the eyes, he punches you in the face. You can't have that. If they don't have that in Tokyo, why have it here?

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But there does, I'm not an expert, but there does seem to be an absolute rise in in severe mental illness, not just anxiety disorders, but disassociative schizophrenia and stuff like that.

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What about all the people who were hesitant to take the vax, who didn't know enough or who are aware of previous incidents of the government lying about public health? And a lot of them lost their jobs. At the very least, they were yelled at and scolded by the Biden administration and by public health authorities here in New York. Aren't they owed an apology, at least, those people?

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Yeah, I mean, I think anyone who reads the indictment will come away confused, and that's kind of why I was so anxious to talk to you. What was this? I mean, you're a Democrat, lifelong. You were mayor of the biggest city in the United States. It's an overwhelmingly Democrat city. You're one of the most important Democratic officials in the country.

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But when you have a scary time, what you can't do is isolate a vulnerable minority and blame them for everything, which is what they did.

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I feel like we've seen a lot of that through history and maybe it's a bad idea at this point. We shouldn't do that.

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So the next time there's a public health crisis or any kind of crisis, when you see public officials say it's these people's fault, American citizens with jobs and families, they did this. Maybe we should call that what it is, which is.

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Mr. Mayor, thank you very much for having us to Gracie Mansion.

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Now, there was some question about what happened to de Blasio. We were mentioning the mentally ill on subways. Is he one of them? What happened to him? Do you know?

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Bill de Blasio, the former mayor. He lived here.

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Like, what would be the class? Bill de Blasio on what? Do you have any idea?

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Mayor Adams, thank you very much for having us.

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You were indicted by Joe Biden's Justice Department. What was that?

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because you complained about allowing tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of illegals from foreign nationals who have no right to be here to come into your city and you have to pay for it, and you complained, and this indictment was punishment for complaining.

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So if we could just walk through and leave out the parts you can't talk about, of course, but this happens at the beginning of the Biden administration, which is close to the beginning of your administration. All these foreign nationals start showing up in New York. They have no money. They have no jobs. They have no place to stay. And you have to deal with them.

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And the taxpayers here have to deal with them. So you go to Washington. What were those meetings like?

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I kind of like this. I read through the indictment today on the way here. I read the day it came out. I have no reason to suck up to you. I thought it was ridiculous. It was flimsier even than I remember. You were indicted for accepting upgraded flights and for allowing the Turkish president to occupy his own building in Manhattan. The whole thing's crazy, actually, if you read it.

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And so you tell the president and his aides this, and what do they say?

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So what do you think that damage looks like long-term?

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It sounds like they treated you with contempt.

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What was your reaction when you found out you were being indicted?

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I'm just confused by why that's the responsibility of the taxpayers, the citizenry of New York and your responsibility. Someone comes into our country illegally from another nation, not invited here in violation of our laws. And it's your responsibility to make sure that they're dealt with. How does that work? Where did that responsibility come from?

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Was there ever a conversation in your 10 trips to Washington where anybody said, you know, really sorry for doing this to you?

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Never? Never. Never. Do you say, I'm the mayor of New York, it's the biggest city in the country, you can't treat me like a servant? No.

The Tucker Carlson Show

Eric Adams on His Attempt to Fix New York and How Democrats Weaponized the Law to Stop Him

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So they had to sit there idle and then- Think about that. Yeah, think about that.

The Tucker Carlson Show

Eric Adams on His Attempt to Fix New York and How Democrats Weaponized the Law to Stop Him

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Yeah, no, it's totally right. Idle hands. All right. After, was it after your 10th trip that you got indicted when you started complaining about it in public?

The Tucker Carlson Show

Eric Adams on His Attempt to Fix New York and How Democrats Weaponized the Law to Stop Him

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On the way to Washington to meet with other mayors about immigration.

The Tucker Carlson Show

Eric Adams on His Attempt to Fix New York and How Democrats Weaponized the Law to Stop Him

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You hear that with a lot of people who've been successful. You get to this place that you never thought you'd be and you realize you don't have as much power as you thought you had. And when you disobey, you get crushed.

The Tucker Carlson Show

Eric Adams on His Attempt to Fix New York and How Democrats Weaponized the Law to Stop Him

952.435

Just just have you spoken? The Biden people are gone now. Trump's getting inaugurated. But did you between your indictment and the end of Biden's term, talk to anyone at the White House and say, hey, you indicted me for complaining? What's this?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Wir sind so froh, dass ihr hier seid.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Ich muss sagen, aus all den Winnern von Beast Games, denke ich, du bist der am liebsten attraktivste Winner jemals. Bist du in Männermagazinen? Nein, nicht. Was machst du da?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Es ist interessant zu hören, dass du das sagst, weil ich den Show als diesen Mikrokosm für das, wie schrecklich sie in der Welt ist, wie auch gut. Und es ist also interessant zu hören, wie du die Gute in den Leuten gesehen hast. Ich meine, ich denke zurück zu dem Episode, wo wir sahen, dass diese Brüder die Frau überzeugen, dass sie verloren hat, oder ich glaube, sie hat sie in die Welt getrickt.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Und ich erinnere mich, dass ich so wütend war. Und ich weiß, wie es funktioniert. Ich weiß, wie die Editing funktioniert. Es ist ein Spiel. Es ist ein Spiel und sie wollten es für den Show mehr intensiv machen, als es wahrscheinlich war. Aber ich war wirklich wütend. Ich war wirklich wütend, dass das passiert ist. Es hat mich infuriiert.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

114.83

Ich glaube, du hattest so viele Leute, die in deine DMs fliegen, nachdem du auf dem Show warst.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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I didn't see you hurt anybody on your way to the top.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Ja, denn sogar am Ende versuchten Sie, andere Spieler zu helfen. Ich vergesse den Namen des Spielers, aber sie versuchte, den richtigen Quadrat zu wählen, den richtigen Pattern zu wählen und sich zu befinden. Und du hast ihr tatsächlich die richtige Quadrate gesagt, auf die sie steigen musste. Und dann steigte sie nicht auf diese und sie wurde ausgewählt.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Es war also cool, dich zu sehen, um andere Menschen zu helfen, obwohl das bedeutet, dass du noch jemanden hattest, mit dem du gewinnen konntest.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Es ist wahrscheinlich wirklich mit deinem Geist verbunden, dass du so lange in dieser Simulation bist. Und es fühlt sich so an, als wäre das dein Leben. Das ist wahr.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Wir haben gesagt, wir schauen es einfach mit dem Rest des Welt.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Ich meine, es gab wirklich, ich glaube, 20 Arm-Sicherheitsgärte.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Er hat das auf dem Show gesagt. Hatten sie einen solchen Screening-Prozess, um sicherzustellen, dass keine der Gärte 100 in ihre Knochen geschliffen hat? Ich meine, das ist so viel Geld.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Es ist verrückt, wenn man hört, wie Mr. Beast funktioniert. Denn das ist eine verrückte Geschichte. Mein Freund Dallin hat den Schokoladenfaktor gewonnen. Und er hat mir gesagt, dass er, als er den Täter in den Schokoladenfaktor bekommen hat, Es war die echte Tatsache. In dem Video, als Mr. Beast es ihm gehandelt hat, war es wahr. Und es wurde gezeichnet, Jimmy Donaldson, 100% wahr.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Wie schwer war es, all das Geld mit deiner Frau und Kindern wegzuholen?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Hast du irgendwelche verabschiedeten Abkürzungen, die jeden Monat nicht verwendet werden? Denn das war früher uns. Und deshalb bin ich so gespannt, euch über heute's Sponsor Rocket Money zu erzählen.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Rocket Money ist eine persönliche Finanz-App, die dir hilft, unerwartete Abkürzungen zu verabschieden, deine Spenden zu monitorieren und dir hilft, deine Karten zu steigern, damit du deine Erhöhungen erhöhen kannst.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Not only does Rocket Money help you cancel your unwanted subscriptions, they can also help you negotiate your phone bill down. I got on the app the other day and they were saying that they could help negotiate our internet bill. That would be good. Which is really nice. I feel like we're paying too much for internet, so I think I'm going to take Rocket Money up on that.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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All of our friends have Rocket Money and the one friend we have that doesn't, we kind of make fun of. It's one of those things that's just like, there's no reason you shouldn't have this.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. All you have to do is go to rocketmoney.com slash unplanned. That's rocketmoney.com slash unplanned. rocketmoney.com slash unplanned. And Jimmy seemed genuinely interested in your son's condition, right? I mean, you talked on the Ice Coffee Hour about...

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Every time Jimmy really got a chance, he was asking you questions about CTD.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Für alle, die gerade hören, was ist es? Wie kriegst du es? Es ist super rar, richtig? Also, wenn du die Leute erläutern könntest, wäre das großartig.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Manchmal. Manchmal? Ich versuche, zurück in den Gym zu kommen. Sie ist der starke. Sie geht in den Gym fünfmal im Jahr. Ich sah ihre Arme, als sie in den Gym kam.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Ist das, was ihr gerade durchgeht?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Wenn es keine Rettung gibt, was tust du? Was kannst du tun, um deinem Sohn zu helfen? Ist da überhaupt etwas?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Wer sind die Leute oder die Charitäten, Organisationen, die arbeiten, um eine Rettung zu finden?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Und das ist, wo du mit dieser verrückten Idee gekommen bist, hey, wir werden 365 Meilen über Kalifornien rücken und es vloggen und Geld für den Grund erzielen.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Konntest du so viel Geld erzielen, wie du es gedacht hättest?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Hast du jemals einen verrückten Publikationsstunt gemacht, den du machen könntest? Ich weiß, du hast gerade einen mit Rucking Across California gemacht. Hast du jemals etwas verrücktes gemacht, das du versuchen möchtest, um das Wort weiter zu bekommen?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Okay, can I tell you what my idea is? I just saw this dude. This video got recommended to me on YouTube. This guy worked out every day for 100 days. And he was not like super overweight, but he was overweight to start. And then by the end, he looked good. Like he looked jacked. Und ich war so, Kreatin, männlicher Modell, was sollen wir hier mit Jeffrey tun?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Und ich war so, vielleicht musst du ein Video machen, wo du 100 Tage lang arbeiten musst, aber du nimmst Kreatin, weil das ist, was dein Sohn's Schwierigkeit ist. Seine Transmitter können die Kreatin nicht in die Plätze, wo er sie braucht, transportieren. Vielleicht erhälst du die Bewusstheit, hey, mein Sohn hat diese Bedingung.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Und in der Zwischenzeit werden Leute dich anschauen, wie du Kreatin nimmst. Das ist der dritte Schritt, um eine Rettung zu finden.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Und dann werden die Menschen mit der Gesundheit aufhören, und dann werden sie dir eine Geschichte erzählen, und dann wirst du auf der Karte der Menschen mit deiner 100-Tage-Foto.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Das ist so du. All in oder all out. Ich bin seltsam, Alter. Ich bin entweder 110 Prozent in etwas, wie Abby es gesagt hat, oder ich kümmere mich nicht. Ich muss alles machen.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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If you have more ideas, let me know.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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I have about 50 ideas per day. So if you ever need ideas, I got you.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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That was the third place winner's idea and it inspired me.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Warte, was? Patrick ist derjenige, der kein Geld genommen hat. Nein, ich hatte nichts mit ihm zu verdienen. Er war mein bester Freund.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Auf dem Fahrrad hier haben wir die YouTube-Video gemacht, die du über deinen Sohn veröffentlicht hast. Es wurde vor zwei Jahren veröffentlicht. Vor zwei Jahren. Es hat mehr Legitimität gebracht zu dem, was du sagst. Manchmal sagen die Leute auf diesen Shows, ich gebe all das Geld an die Bösen, ich mache das und das. Aber wenn du zurückgehst und siehst, du hast die Rechnungen.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Es war wie ein Haze. Weißt du, wie viele Leute in der Fraternitätskultur gehasen werden? Das war wie dein Haze. Und jetzt sind es deine Brüder. Es ist wie deine Plätschern-Klasse. Ich habe gehört, von dem, was du gesagt hast, die Bedingungen waren wirklich gut. Von dem, was du im Podcast gesagt hast. Aber ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, wie mental das ist, um zu sagen, ob ich gewinnen werde.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Ist das alles für nichts? Das muss verrückt sein.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Have you ever wanted to go to therapy, but you just didn't know how to get started? That was me at one point. And that's why I actually tried out BetterHelp, which is so convenient because you can have a session from the comfortableness. Is that even a word? The comfort of your own home. There's no driving. There's no waiting for your therapist to show up.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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You just hop on your phone or on your computer and have your therapy session. You could be in bed doing a therapy session. That's how easy it is with BetterHelp.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Tell me what was going through your brain when, not Patrick. Gage. Gage flipped the coin. For 10 million dollars.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Du hast gearbeitet, um Aufmerksamkeit und Geld für deinen Sohn für eine sehr lange Zeit zu erzielen. Und das ist sehr cool.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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That was smart gameplay. I didn't like it. It made me.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Wenn du die Möglichkeit hättest, in Tawanas Platz zu sein, wo sie ein Millionen Dollar früher in der Show genommen hätte und ihr ganzes Team eliminiert hätte, aber ein Millionen Dollar bekommen hätte, was würdest du tun?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Oh ja, weil sie das tun. Sie tun das. Du kannst deine Familie für 20.000 Euro anrufen.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Ich spreche mit dir, wenn du nach Hause kommst. Du hast nur ein paar Tage gedauert, um zu anrufen. Ja. Warte ein paar Tage und behalte deine 20.000 Euro. Okay.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Hatten sie einfach jeden Contestanten ein GoPro und gesagt, Vlog, ist das es?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Now are you going to apply, Matt? Is it open? Dude, I'm a YouTuber. I tend to over-record because I like to make very authentic, real content. So oftentimes when we post a 10-minute YouTube video, I cut down two hours of content to make that. And I think that's crazy. All of our friends that are also creators are like, Matt, you're crazy. Stop spending 20 hours on a YouTube video.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Just edit it in a couple hours of post. But I'm like, no, I care about the quality. To know that he did 30... Du hast 30.000 Stunden gesagt?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Wir werden 30.000 Stunden YouTube-Videos machen. Ist das okay?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Ich habe das Vertrag ein paar Mal geschrieben. Also wann ist das Tag?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Was ist deine Lieblingsgeschichte? Ich glaube, ihr habt eine tolle, romantische Geschichte. Ich will all die süßen Details.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Ja, ich denke, ihr habt es vielleicht im dritten Jahr.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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You're good. And you guys always knew that you wanted two kids or what happened with that? Because before this podcast started, you guys were connecting over you love babies. You're like babies, babies, babies. Jeff was like, yeah, I always wanted more kids.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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It's incredible though. I was blown away at the size change up top. I was just like, this is insane.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Not the same. I don't know how that would look. Is that how you guys spent the 10 million dollars? It sounds like we need to have a third so then we can get that picture.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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A guy. We all have a guy. We all have a guy. Is it true that you got depressed after winning the money? That's a big question.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Und ich bin sicher, du hattest auch einige strikte NDAs. Deine Lippen waren wahrscheinlich gezwungen. Du wolltest keinen Teil dieser 10 Millionen Dollar wegwerfen, weil du deiner Großmutter ausgedrückt hast und dann deine Großmutter einen Post auf Facebook gemacht hat.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Wie coachst du einen 8-Jährigen, um nicht zu spüren? Ich habe ihm das NDA gezeigt und ich habe ihm den Penalty gezeigt. Okay, okay.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Is it 50% of the money or are they like, we're cutting out half?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Ich bin beeindruckt. Ich habe die Beine auf Santa Claus gespült, als ich acht Jahre alt war. Also der Fakt, dass dein achtjähriges Kind das Geheimnis behalten konnte, ist sehr beeindruckend.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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You don't even have, you can't have a watch. No. Even just a basic little tiny $5 watch.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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No clocks. Es ist wie in Vegas, wo du nicht weißt, wann der Tag ist. Ja, die pumpen den Atom.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Und sie filmten nur am Abend. mostly only filmed at night why at night well if it's outside lighting so you're controlling the lighting um yeah so because of lighting they just decided all right everybody wake up at no sleeping from 10 p.m till 5 a.m we're filming

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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I was weird before I went. Also that. But was he weirder?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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The reason I ask is we had a friend that was in a submarine for six months in the military.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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They all come back weird when you're down there with just those people for six months.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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You're like, we're the best. Back to schedules. You're like, this marriage is off.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Someone recognized you at the airport today, right? And asked your wife to take a picture of you with them, having no clue who Jen was.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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I think the number one thing is family is always first for us. It's actually been really cool. We've noticed now, especially with our kids when we're out and about, it's been really cool to notice when people do recognize us.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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um oftentimes will actually keep their distance and like especially with the kids which is really cool and we don't we don't tell we we want people to come up to us and say hi we're happy to take pictures but no one engages with our kids but i love that i love that people have the respect to just think oh they're with their family maybe i should you know think about that um

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Ja, aber nein, ich meine, ich denke, für mich ist es so, dass wir erkennen, wie glücklich wir sind und wir so dankbar sind, dass wir dieses Leben haben und dass wir die Plattform haben. Also versuchen wir einfach immer sicherzustellen, egal wer es ist, es ist egal, wie unangenehm der Zeit ist. Wir wollen, dass du Fotos nimmst oder jemandem die Zeit des Tages gibst, weil sie zählen.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Yeah, you never want to forget your roots.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Unsere Familie macht uns immer leid. Wir lieben sie. Ich möchte wissen, kannst du jetzt in Costco gehen, ohne dich zu erkennen? Machst du Fotos jedes Mal, wenn du in Walmart, Costco, Mall gehst?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Habt ihr eine Spielplanung für das Geld? Habt ihr auch schon mal Geldspiele gespielt? Ich glaube, das ist eine große Sache, um darüber zu sprechen.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Ich meine, wir haben nicht immer ein Auge auf die Finanzen gesehen, nur in den letzten Jahrzehnten, richtig?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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I don't know much about his medical sales background, but I can verify. I'm sorry. People are going to be like, Matt is like, this whole episode is just Matt hitting on Jess. I can't wait for a 100-day workout challenge. Bro to bro, you're a good looking dude. Thank you, man. I like that.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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He needs to hear it from you, Jen. He can't just hear it from me. He needs to hear it from you, too.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Was wirklich lustig ist, Jen, du hast es vorhin erwähnt, dass People Magazine einen Artikel über Jeff von Winning Beast Games gemacht hat. Und du siehst Jeff und er lacht und sagt, ja, ich habe gewonnen. Und direkt neben ihm hast du deine beiden wunderschönen Jungs. Es gibt nur eines, was verpasst ist. Es gibt nur eines, was verpasst ist. Du, Jeffs Frau. Glaubst du, dass Leute...

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Oh, okay. Das war nur 10 Jahre ago, als ihr getreut wurdet.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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tactical life stuff that you know long-term care making sure and it's tricky i'm sorry to interrupt it's tricky too because you're thinking about your individual son and his needs and what are his needs going to be throughout the entirety of his life right yeah because if you just if you were feeling extremely like i don't know generous and we're just like Okay, 10 Millionen, hier geht's.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Dann wie wissen wir, dass das Geld in der richtigen Weise verwendet wird? Wie weißt du, dass die Organisation, die es bekommt, X, Y, und Z komplett helfen wird, um CTD zu heilen? Das ist schwierig.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

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Diesen Eindruck von Jeff als einziger Vater, der... Natürlich ist das, was du tust, wirklich, wirklich cool. Aber glaubst du, dass die Leute einfach dachten, wir lassen Jen aus diesem Thema, weil es eine bessere Geschichte machen könnte?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

4591.401

Was ist das coolste Ding, das ihr gekauft habt, seit ihr das Geld bekommen habt? Was ist cool? Habt ihr etwas gekauft, das ihr mir noch nicht erzählt habt?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

4625.009

Das ist großartig. Und ich glaube, das Team von MrBeast gibt dir wahrscheinlich eine gewisse Warnung darüber, hey, du musst auf jeden Fall eine Taxi zahlen.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

4662.824

Es ist nicht so, dass es... Warte, weißt du, was das Prozent ist?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

4703.721

I'm honestly just like stoked for you guys. I just cannot believe that your lives have changed.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

4715.674

Actually, yeah. Can you fill people in?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

4720.319

Ein 20-Jähriger? Ja, ein 17-jähriger Kind. Und er kauft einen Ferrari für alle Familienmitglieder und vergisst, Taxi zu zahlen.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

4735.624

Aber hat es dein Leben verändert in der Weise, wie du es gedacht hättest?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

4798.339

Ich bin wirklich so glücklich. Wie können Leute donatieren und die Mission unterstützen, um eine Heilung zu finden?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

4830.555

Wahnsinn. Wir sind so froh, dass ihr da seid. Ich bin wirklich stolz, dass es Leute gab, die so kind und klar gute Dinge mit dem Geld gemacht haben.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

521.395

Okay, jetzt wissen die Leute, dass du existierst. Genau.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

539.381

Okay, ich will sagen, ich wollte sagen, ich habe dich für zwei Sekunden auf dem Show gesehen. Warst du auf dem Show für zwei Sekunden?

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

59.959

Habt ihr noch Geld-Fights gehabt? Ich glaube, das ist eine wirklich große Sache, um darüber zu sprechen. Ich bin gespannt auf diese Antwort. Ich bin bereit. Ich bin bereit dafür. Wir haben mit Jeff gesessen, dem Beast Games Champion, der über 2.000 Kandidaten gewonnen hat, um den größten Geldpreis in der Geschichte der Gameshow zu gewinnen. Aber das Schwierigste war nicht mal die Wettbewerb.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

691.237

Seriously though, I actually am curious, were you thinking, while your husband's competing in Mr. Beast's game show, 2,000 people, I mean, let's be honest, the odds are so low. The odds are so low. So were you thinking when he was gone, what is he doing right now? What is he actually spending his time doing? Because it's not like a coin flip where it's a 50-50 chance.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

714.035

We're talking about one in a 2,000 chance of winning.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

78.58

Es war, seine Frau und zwei Kinder über einen Monat entfernt zu sein. Während Jeff im Spiel war, musste seine Frau den Fort am Zuhause halten, obwohl sie absolut keine Ahnung hatte, was los war. In diesem Video sprechen wir über den emotionalen Druck, Mr. Beast zu treffen, was die Kameras nicht zeigen und wie sich ihre Beziehung nach dem Geld verändert hat. Jeff und Jen, willkommen bei Unplanned.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

807.773

Ich war so, ja! Das erinnert mich an das, was spartanische Weibchen ihren Mann sagen würden. Sie würden sagen, entweder zurückkommen mit... Es gibt eine ganze Quote, aber sie sagten, entweder zurückkommen mit einem Gewinner oder zurückkommen mit deinem Kopf auf einem Schild.

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Jeffrey Allen on winning Beast Games, starting marriage counseling & overcoming a mid-life crisis

824.365

Das ist die moderne Version davon.

This American Life

332: The Ten Commandments

1545.095

His concern was that, like, God wouldn't forgive him or that it was wrong, right?

This American Life

332: The Ten Commandments

1648.137

Are there times that you feel like that faith and the U.S. military are sort of at odds?

This American Life

332: The Ten Commandments

1704.134

Such as?

This American Life

332: The Ten Commandments

1711.895

Do you think that you have a different understanding of this particular commandment about the fifth commandment, thou shalt not kill? Do you feel like you have a different understanding of it after serving in Iraq than perhaps somebody who didn't serve?

This American Life

856: You’ve Come to the Right Person

3464.341

So, it's been three weeks since you went and talked to Harriet, and I'm calling to see are there any updates.

This American Life

858: How to Tell a Dumb American Story

1776.132

Yeah, I'm really struck by that.

This American Life

858: How to Tell a Dumb American Story

1961.412

What were some of the feelings, like, do you remember anything in particular that really endeared you to her?

This American Life

361: Fear of Sleep

2776.619

Well, that was totally unsatisfying. Yeah. I like how he wasn't sorry in the least.

This American Life

361: Fear of Sleep

279.941

Was it hard for you to see this side of yourself? You know what I mean? Like you wake up and your hands are around the throat of the person who you love.

This American Life

361: Fear of Sleep

2891.061

And just describe, you would be lying there trying to fall asleep.

This American Life

361: Fear of Sleep

2938.945

It's interesting. You talked to your parents about this on tape a couple weeks ago. And it's clear.

This American Life

361: Fear of Sleep

298.177

You must have dreaded going to bed.

This American Life

361: Fear of Sleep

2990.458

I love how your mom's take on this is it's so not deeply sinister, this film.

This American Life

361: Fear of Sleep

3070.463

Yeah. And why didn't you ask for help?

This American Life

809: The Call

1040.521

Why? Hold it. Why?

This American Life

809: The Call

1046.926

You thought you were too late. Yeah.

This American Life

809: The Call

2142.15

Your friends didn't believe her.

This American Life

809: The Call

2215.4

We can work with anything.

This American Life

809: The Call

2219.762

It must have taken you so long to get there.

This American Life

809: The Call

2237.661

What happened? What was it over?

This American Life

809: The Call

2689.716

Oh, it's so hard. It's so hard because it's like you go back and you're like, I don't know, like what should we have done? I don't go back and have any regrets because,

This American Life

809: The Call

3019.566

Yeah.

This American Life

809: The Call

3201.613

What did that feel like?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

11.812

When you went into the residence further, Did you observe an individual inside of that residence? Yes. Tina's husband, Tim Schmidt, arrived home. He found Tina on the floor crying and bleeding, crying that she'd been raped, bleeding from her body. Tim, her husband, had a gun because Tina was so terrified the defendant and his accomplice were going to come back.

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

120.282

Can you tell us your name, please?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

124.103

Mr. Joseph, you live in Hannibal, Missouri, is that correct?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

128.765

On November 9th, 2021, where were you working?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

135.889

On that particular evening, did two individuals show up to the gas station?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

1526.536

On that cold, dark November night, one of the reasons Tina was so terrified is she had no idea who the person was that attacked her. She didn't know his name. She didn't know where he had come from. And she didn't know where he went. But she did know. She knew he had red hair. She knew he had a red beard. And she knew he had her purse, jewelry, and the day after,

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

155.648

Specifically, those individuals showed up in a white Toyota Avalon, is that correct?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

1551.107

November 9th, 2021, on November 10th, 2021, the day after she had been brutally and violently robbed and sexually assaulted, the US Marshals found the defendant in Springfield, Missouri.

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

161.912

Also on that particular evening was their video surveillance at the gas station.

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

1644.224

Tina was told repeatedly they would kill her if she did not comply with their demands.

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

167.489

And Mr. Joseph, we see a white car that's just pulled up to the punks. Is that the white car we were talking about?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

173.273

Mr. Joseph, as we were watching that, we were seeing individuals get out of that car and go inside the gas station. Is that correct?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

181.539

As we discussed, there is also a camera that catches that front door.

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

200.597

Mr. Joseph, you indicated there's also a camera that captures these video machines over here, is that right?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

208.622

That we're seeing on the screen. And we see an individual here that's wearing a black hoodie and green pants.

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

215.786

Tell us who that is.

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

218.408

And part of your job, right, is just to kind of walk around and check on people, right?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

222.809

And we see that you're going over here to this individual that's got something strapped over his shoulder. Is that the same individual, male individual, that we just saw coming in and out of those front doors? Yes, ma'am. And was that the same male individual that you saw coming in and out of that white car?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

255.865

When you went over to that individual, did you have any conversation with him?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

262.291

Was that because of something you saw?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

267.629

And did I consider you seeing a ziplock bag of money?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

270.75

In fact, were you worried about the man that something could happen to him?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

280.354

And was that a ziplock bag of money that he had on that purse?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

283.815

Mr. Joseph, that male that you can see that we were just talking about that you talked to over at that video machine with the big wad of cash in the bag, describe him for you. It's kind of hard to see how he looked. Can you describe him for the jury?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

36.021

She appeared to be emotional to you? Yes, she did. Did she tell you that he was worried they were going to come back? Yes, she did.

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

700.051

Was he able to get back and get inside?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

704.034

Did she also indicate that inside of the residence that she had been sexually assaulted or raped?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

710.339

Did she say how that had occurred?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

841.121

Then the defendant bent Tina over a chair in her living room. He shoved his penis into her vagina. He shoved his penis into her mouth. He told her to act like she liked it.

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

3. The Hunt Begins

871.121

While the defendant was doing all of these things, robbing her, assaulting her, his accomplice, the woman that was with him, was holding a knife and threatening Tina's life. And then when the defendant was finished using Tina for his sick, his twisted purposes, he sprayed her mouth and body with carpet cleaner.

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

1071.307

After he had taken her car, what did she say that he did?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

1137.807

And did she tell you while they were in that area, the North Bottoms? What the man made her do to her top?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

1147.293

What did Tina say that the man made her do to her top?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

1155.439

And did she tell you that he made her take her top off so that he could touch her breasts?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

1160.743

After this man did that to her, did Tina say that the man forced her to perform oral sex on him?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

1169.699

Did Tina tell you what she thought was going to happen to her?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

120.892

Sergeant Lohmeyer, were you working on the evening of November 9th, 2021? Yes. That evening, about 6.30 in the evening, did a call come in where you responded to 4300 Bottom Road here in Quincy?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

1237.319

At some point, did she also tell you that the mail had made a threat to her about what would happen if her husband was home?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

135.779

When you arrived at the residence of 4300 Bottom Road that evening, did you go inside the house? Yes. Before you went inside the house, did you notice anything about the front area of that house? as far as any markings on them?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

1412.269

As the defendant drove Tina's car back toward the house, as they were being followed by the accomplice, the defendant reached over, grabbing Tina and seeing his penis into her mouth.

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

1478.433

Tina then told you that he went to the house.

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

1481.656

And when they got to the house, what did Tina say happened in the garage?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

1567.334

When they arrived at Tina's house, Tina was able to get away. She was able to run inside, lock the door, while the defendant and the woman with him, his accomplice, were in the garage. but the defendant wasn't done. He wasn't going to let Tina get away. He kicked in the door to her house, breaking down the door, and the nightmare for Tina continued.

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

1657.813

Specifically, those individuals showed up in a white Toyota Avalon, is that correct? Correct. Was there video surveillance at the gas station?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

179.008

When you went inside, did you notice anything about the door leading from the garage into the house?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

213.381

Sergeant Lohmeyer, when you responded that evening, you were one of the first officers on scene, correct?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

223.45

When you went into the residence further... Did you observe an individual inside of that residence?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

230.677

Tell me what you observed about that individual.

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

242.992

When you saw this older female, did you know who that was at that point?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

304.638

Where do you work?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

308.26

Mr. Schmidt, were you married at one point?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

311.222

Who were you married to?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

314.024

How long were you and Ms. Lohman married?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

318.226

Were you together longer than that?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

323.396

So you were together for 36 years and married for two years.

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

340.011

Did Tina work with you at American Builders Supply?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

342.953

You guys ran that business together?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

345.555

For the 38 years that you guys were together?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

377.157

I want to talk to you about the night of November 9th. Where did you go after work? What time did you leave for work?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

401.012

And you went home after that?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

403.613

Got home around 6 p.m., give or take?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

413.39

When you got home around 6 p.m., did you notice anything unusual about your house?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

444.577

Why did the fact that there wasn't a car in the garage and the garage door being open at 6 p.m. at night trouble you, concern you?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

477.173

Specifically, did you have a chainsaw and a hedge trimmer?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

482.277

Was the chainsaw and hedge trimmer in that garage when you left that morning?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

488.643

When you came that night at 6 p.m., was the chainsaw and the hedge trimmer in that garage?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

514.554

When you came inside, you walked through that damaged door. Did you see someone sitting on the floor?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

532.889

Did you also notice a spray can and a knife on the floor?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

538.314

You recognize that I'm holding a knife?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

562.372

Tell me about that.

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

680.318

Can you tell me about that pin? How do you recognize that pin?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

699.172

The shape on that is Star Trek. Yes. It's the badge that the officers wear on their uniforms.

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

707.799

And you and Tina were Star Trek fans?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

799.833

After you saw those things that we saw and you heard Tina say that they raped me, explained her condition, she was crying, she appeared to be emotional to you? Yes, she did. Sobbing? Yes. Did she tell you that she was worried they were going to come back? Yes, she did.

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

826.408

Tina's husband, Tim Schmidt, arrived home. He found Tina on the floor crying and bleeding, crying that she'd been raped, bleeding from her body. Tim, her husband, had a gun because Tina was so terrified the defendant and his accomplice were going to come back. Then he called 911.

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

852.769

Tell us what the call was that came in.

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

869.733

Tim asked Tina to tell him what had happened, and she relived that nightmare again. as she told him how she had been violated, how she had been robbed, how she had been left bloody and bruised.

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

884.453

And did she tell you what had happened to her?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

887.817

And did she tell you how the...

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

920.554

In the car?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

922.275

Did she want to go with him?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

2. Nowhere to Run

931.921

Sergeant Lohmeyer, as she was telling all these things, you said at the beginning that you noticed she was distraught. Was she still distraught as she was telling you these things?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

4. A Fragile Justice

1006.783

Thank you.

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

4. A Fragile Justice

1071.414

Before November 9th, 2021, have you ever heard the name Bradley Young before?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

4. A Fragile Justice

1078.115

Have you ever seen Bradley Young before?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

4. A Fragile Justice

1080.876

The best of your knowledge, had Bradley Young ever had any contact with your wife, Christina Long?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

4. A Fragile Justice

1087.037

Had Bradley Young ever been in your house?

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me

4. A Fragile Justice

31.971

Specifically, those individuals showed up in a white Toyota Avalon, is that correct? Correct. Was there video surveillance at the gas station? Yes.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#574 - Mark Normand

1486.785

What do you think about global warming? You said about Elon that he was ruining Earth, I saw, on The View. You're critical of him. What do you think of all the boycotts, like even the violence that's going on? I don't watch the news.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#574 - Mark Normand

3816.314

Yes, yes.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#574 - Mark Normand

559.569

I'm Brittany. Let me see something real quick.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#574 - Mark Normand

6486.469

Now I'm just floating on the breeze And I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be But when I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones But it's gonna take

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#574 - Mark Normand

94.451

Are you flying out today?

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E551 Timothée Chalamet

4066.02

Yes. I've covered a lot of fashion weeks. This is the first time I've run in to Jim Carrey.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E551 Timothée Chalamet

4074.723

You need a date to the party? What's up?

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E551 Timothée Chalamet

4093.823

Well, they say they're celebrating icons inside.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E551 Timothée Chalamet

4118.898

He's like, you're invisible, but let's smash.

To Catch a Thief: China’s Rise to Cyber Supremacy

Ep 1: The Five Poisons

180.666

So I take it your answer would be that the Chinese have become more aggressive and, in a sense, expansionist in their use of spying and hacking.

Today, Explained

Retire? In this economy?!

1183.252

What were you worried about going into this job with regards to working with people who were younger?

Today, Explained

Retire? In this economy?!

1200.143

Oh, I'm like, don't talk about Marsha that way.

Today, Explained

Retire? In this economy?!

1636.658

How is it going so far? Like how is working with your younger colleagues?

Today, Explained

Retire? In this economy?!

1697.117

Well, thank you so much for calling in and good luck with your new job. Thank you so much.

Today, Explained

Prepping for doomsday

106.286

How does one get into, at the university level, researching the end of the world?

Today, Explained

Prepping for doomsday

1081.952

Okay, so that's the late 19th century. That takes us neatly, time takes us neatly into the 20th century, famously a time when we had a lot of conflict. Two wars that we now call world wars. How does the narrative change, evolve, adapt to meet the 20th century?

Today, Explained

Prepping for doomsday

11.336

There are apocalypses everywhere for those with eyes to see. The Last of Us is back. Netflix made the A-turn out. Paradise got another season. People are building bunkers and buying bunkers. Mark Zuckerberg's blabbing to Theo Vaughn about his tunnel.

Today, Explained

Prepping for doomsday

1200.839

If we move up to the present day, what do our, and now we're beyond books, right? We're into television shows, we're into movies, we're into music. What is the culture telling us about how we now think the world we're in or what we're worried about now?

Today, Explained

Prepping for doomsday

1218.84

It's everything, man.

Today, Explained

Prepping for doomsday

124.927

What was the story that the Preppy, P-R-E-P-P-Y?

Today, Explained

Prepping for doomsday

1279.602

So are you. A couple months ago, there was some news that a comet was headed toward Earth, and it was a big one. They were calling it a city killer, not a planet killer. I started checking in on that comment every morning, right? How close is it? What are the odds that it's going to hit?

Today, Explained

Prepping for doomsday

1295.087

And then I read something that cheered me up, made me feel a little bit better, which is that everybody seems to think they're going to be alive when the world ends, and they never are because the world has not yet ended. But why do you think we do this to ourselves? Why do you think we obsess and maybe even wish that we would be around to see the end?

Today, Explained

Prepping for doomsday

132.253

Right, okay, Silicon Valley. What is the story that that bag is telling?

Today, Explained

Prepping for doomsday

1446.018

Dorian Linsky. The book is Everything Must Go, the stories we tell about the end of the world. Hadi Mouagdi has a go bag, I bet. Jolie Myers is our editor. Laura Bullard checks the facts. Andrea Kristen's daughter is our engineer.

Today, Explained

Prepping for doomsday

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The rest of our team, Amanda Llewellyn, Avishai Artsy, Amina El-Sadi, Miles Bryan, Gabrielle Berbet, Patrick Boyd, Victoria Chamberlain, Miranda Kennedy, Devin Schwartz, and Peter Balanon-Rosen. Sean Ramos-Firm is the male host. I'm Noelle King. Today Explained is distributed by WNYC, and the show is part of Vox.

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Do you have a bug out bag?

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Good, good, good. Yeah, I have a little I have what I'd call a kit, a just in case kit. I have always wondered how many other people are engaged in prepping or prepping adjacent behavior. Like how many of us are there out there?

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Huh. If you told me to envision a prepper, I have a picture in my head. Is my picture fair? Is there a type of person who preps?

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It's for sure a bunker.

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And that 40% of us are preparing in some way, this feels like a very high number to me, would seem to suggest you're right. This is part of the identity of many of us. When do we see this put to the test?

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Costco's got 150 serving emergency food bucket. Americans love this shit, but why? Today on Today Explained, a concise history of our obsession with the end of the world.

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One beautiful part of the American economy is that there is always somebody who will sell you something if you have enough money. And when we think about preppers, when I think about preppers, I do tend to think about ultra-rich people like Mark Zuckerberg buying a private island, raising their own food, these guys in Silicon Valley buying land in New Zealand.

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What is the deal with the ultra-wealthy and their preparation for the end of the world? Is it like, do they know something that we don't? Or do they just have a lot of money and need to spend it?

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So much. Yes. And we're going to take Doge to Mars.

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There's a risk here of upping the ante. So what starts with the rich often trickles down to the less rich, which is why I have a life straw and an LLB knife. And I wonder, like, if we talk about people who are not the Elon Musks of the world or the Peter Thiel's of the world, is prepping big business among the kind of middle class as well?

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You're in Arizona. What's the scenario that most worries you, for real, for real?

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Uh-huh.

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My biggest ones are electromagnetic pulse, hurricane, tornado, and civil war. Electromagnetic pulse is akin to grid failure, right? It means the electricity goes out and you're trying to figure out what to do. We just saw this happen in Spain and Portugal. It was really a nightmare. It makes me wonder, should we really want to survive a doomsday scenario?

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Robert Kirsch studies the end of the world at Arizona State. He's co-author with Emily Ray of Be Prepared, Doomsday Prepping in the United States.

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Today Explained, we're back for now. The original stories about the end of the world, the ones that we know about anyway, started with organized religions. Now, some religions see time as a circle that goes around and around. But some religions developed the idea that time was like an arrow. Eventually, it hits a terminus, an end of a world.

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Then in the 19th century, a whole host of things conspired to take the apocalypse out of religion and move it into secular works. Dorian Linsky wrote Everything Must Go, the stories we tell about the end of the world.

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How influential was that poem?

Trained to Kill: The Dog Trainer, the Heiress and the Bodyguard

The Bundle in the Back

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That's strange.

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Where'd he go?

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What do you say to the sergeant?

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You smelled a strong odor of bleach coming from what was ever inside that bag? Yes.

Trained to Kill: The Dog Trainer, the Heiress and the Bodyguard

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So what are you telling me? You shot Mark Stover in self-defense?

Trained to Kill: The Dog Trainer, the Heiress and the Bodyguard

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This is October 2009. Right. When Linda Updike and Michael Oakes have become a couple.

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He's telling you that, in his mind, it may not be over, your relationship with him.

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And so he, he looks upset.

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What does he say to you?

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Looking out the windows.

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Did you not say right then, they know what?

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So Linda's thinking she may be next.

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Secret Meetings

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People have said that you are a gun enthusiast. Is that true?

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Secret Meetings

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And did she pay you for that consulting?

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Secret Meetings

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What was his obsession with these wedding photos?

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Secret Meetings

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And what was that moment like for you?

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Michael, why didn't you just say to him, you get away from me. If you get anywhere near me and Linda again, I'm calling the cops.

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Puppy Love

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What made you think it was Mark?

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They look like a happy couple here.

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And your brother thought this is the one. After all those years, he married her, and that this was going to be his partner for life.

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Puppy Love

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What did you think to yourself when you were lying in bed listening to that?

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Puppy Love

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So what was the attraction?

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How good were you at this horse jumping?

True Crime with Rachel Shannon

VILE Mother SOLD Her Daughter to be TORTURED & MURDERED

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Do you have any support? Do you have people on your side? Someone's helping you?

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So will you get to decide that, or? I don't think so.

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Yes, you're absolutely right. I can't even fathom what you might be going through, but please know that our hearts and prayers are with you, and I know just at this station, we cover all kinds of news, but for whatever reason, just because of You know, what happened, it has really hit hard for a lot of people.

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What would you want viewers to know about your daughter?

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HEARTLESS: Mother POISONS Her Baby with FENTANYL to "Relax More"

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This is since you've moved?

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This is where you used to live?

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Okay. Well... That still wouldn't explain how it got in the sippy cup.

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No. But based on this timeline, I mean, there's only two people that could have put fentanyl in the sippy cup. Based on what you just told me about 10 minutes ago. And based on the whole timeline of that day. I need to know how it got in there. Because this investigation is not going away.

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Do you get fentanyl delivered from China?

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Okay. Did you ever put anything in her sippy cup other than huggy juice?

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But have you ever put anything in there?

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Other than... I mean, because some parents will give their kids a little bit of, you know, Benadryl or something like that.

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Right, I agree with you. I agree with you. But people, parents... I'm not one of those people or parents. Okay, that's what I'm asking. The amount of fentanyl that was in her system was extremely high. Okay. It was very high. And that's essentially when she drank the sippy cup. Whenever she picked that sippy cup off the bed, it was absorbed very quickly.

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And once she swallowed it, she didn't have much time to survive.

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I just wanted to know how it got in there. That's the big question.

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If you had to guess how it got in there?

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So you think it could have been the Huggy?

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We tested the Huggies. I found out.

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Well, it's my job to find out how this got in there, okay, at this point. This isn't going to go away. This investigation is not going away until I find out.

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I think someone, just like a bartender, mixes up a drink, put it in that sippy cup. It's the only possible way it could have got in there.

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Do you agree with me?

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Really messed up person would do that.

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Did she eat or drink anything?

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Okay, that was earlier in the day when you guys got back. Did she eat or drink anything?

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Which sippy cup was that?

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The pink sippy cup?

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And where was that located?

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Did he have that or did she have it?

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Okay, when you say on the way out the door, you mean?

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Okay, when you came back, did she pick the sippy cup?

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Did you give her the sippy cup at all?

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Okay. Did you put anything in the sippy cup?

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Yeah, I remember seeing some Huggies in there.

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Is that what they're called?

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There would be no reason, like, you would get any packages, say, from China or from Japan or anything like that.

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But to your knowledge, you...

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So just to be clear, the stuff that was in that sippy cup, you did put in or you did not?

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Well, I'm just going to cut. I'm just going to be blunt here. Your child died from fentanyl poisoning.

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There weren't lab results then. So I'm going to explain this to you. Okay. In that sippy cup was fentanyl. In her blood was fentanyl. We just got these results back. It's the same type of fentanyl that people are overdosing every day in Pittsburgh and dying from. Same exact type. Okay. So I need to know how the fentanyl got in the sippy cup because right now it's not an accident. Okay.

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So scientifically it's impossible for your daughter to put fentanyl in a sippy cup. Okay. Physically it's impossible for her to do scientifically. That's another story. But right now that's what, that's how she died. It wasn't a heart attack. It wasn't any other reason other than she overdosed on fentanyl. How'd the fentanyl get in the sippy cup, Janayan?

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I'm not a scientist. It comes in a liquid form. It comes in a powder form. I'm not exactly sure. But what I am sure of is that the fentanyl was put in a sippy cup and there was liquid mixed into it, and it was given to Charlotte, and that's how she died. So I need to know how that got in there.

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HEARTLESS: Mother POISONS Her Baby with FENTANYL to "Relax More"

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Because you realize right now this investigation is taking a whole different turn.

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HEARTLESS: Mother POISONS Her Baby with FENTANYL to "Relax More"

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And when someone gives someone something and they die from it, it's a homicide. She was poisoned intentionally.

We Can Do Hard Things

I’m a Sociopath: Patric Gagne’s Story

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Okay, so Harlow is the fake name of your sister in the book. Love how you write about Harlow and how she, it's just beautiful. Okay, so let's just say Harlow stabbed somebody in the head with a pencil. What she feels after is, oh my God, I did this horrible thing. That person's hurting. I feel so guilty. Everyone's going to be mad at me. I'm a terrible person. Right.

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And I'm not, I'm just saying Harlow being a neurotypical. Yes. No, I can't even imagine her doing something like that. But yes, correct. All of those. So that's Harlow's mind afterwards are neurotypical. You stab somebody with a pencil. What exactly is happening in your mind with your grownup perspective of relief? Because you're being yourself.

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I understood it as I'm trying to feel something, but that's not it. That's not exactly it, right? It's not just trying to feel something. It's I am asserting who I am in this moment and I don't give a fuck.

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Okay. Do you see superpowers of sociopathy? Because I want to hear about all the like, I know it can be dangerous. People, this is not like something to glamorize. It's messy. However, I will point to a few things. Like when you talk about the tranquility and things coming in and out, and I'm like, isn't this what I'm trying to like?

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Welcome to We Can Do Hard Things. We are psyched today. We have a fascinating guest today that I have been listening to and reading and have learned so much, not just about her, but about all of us from her work. Her name is Patrick Gagne, and she is a writer, former therapist, and advocate for people with sociopathic, psychopathic, and antisocial personality disorders.

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I'm paying all these people to make me sit down and breathe for an hour so I can get to this non-attachment place. Or when I think about what we think of as good people, quote, who feel a lot of things, I think I make some of my worst decisions from powerful emotions. Not my best. Like I almost have to be in the non-attachment to make my best decision.

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So do you see superpowers of this or is it just something to manage?

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It's like being an emotional atheist compared to a Christian who is only doing good things because I'm scared shitless I'm going to hell. Like who's the better person? The person who's only doing it to save their ass or the person who's choosing to do it through no dogma, through no feeling that's going to come up in there just because it's the right thing that they've decided.

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Her New York Times bestselling memoir, Sociopath, so good, so good, shares her struggle to understand her own sociopathy and shed light on this often maligned and misunderstood mental disorder. Welcome, Patrick. How are you?

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Like it's just an around and around and around we go. And if you tell them it doesn't matter if you learn it, what matters is if it's inherent in you. No, that's yeah. That's the second. It's the double bind. It doesn't matter. No. The goalpost is always changing. If you learn it, you're fake and we don't like you. Right. But so is it something that's so massive?

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Really good. We're good. Patrick, what is a sociopath?

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It's bigger than it's what we believe as a culture. You are only good if you feel a certain way. It doesn't matter what you do. It's what you feel. And so if we taught kids differently, would kids who didn't inherently feel these social emotions not have to act out in the first place because they wouldn't be being told that they were bad?

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Would it fix the even negative to culture effects of sociopathy at the root? And then allow us to see the superpowers. For example, if I'm going into surgery, I don't want my surgeon to be a fucking empath. I don't want my surgeon going, oh my God, I feel so bad for you. I don't necessarily want empaths on the front line of activism. I don't want someone like me in all those places, honestly. So-

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Does it start so early with how we define what is a good person and a bad person? Yes.

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That's so cool. That's really cool. What is the hardest part of being a sociopath in a marriage?

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So you're just like everyone else is what you're saying.

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But don't, okay, I think this might be one of the reasons why I'm so fascinated by all of this and you and all this work Is that I think I have bought the idea over a long time that being an empath, being empathetic is the goodest girl. It's like the kindest thing to be. I am now in a phase of my life where I'm wondering if being an empath is horseshit.

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if that it's just hypervigilance, if it's just, if it's just a group of people who were raised in houses where they had to be hypervigilant of everyone else's feelings, because me saying, I am an empath. I feel what you feel is impossible. I don't feel what you feel. I feel what's coming up inside of me. That is about me. I'm not a vampire.

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I can't like suck out exactly what you're feeling and put it in me. So, in some ways, all we're doing, the empaths, is using everyone else to regulate our own self. It's actually quite selfish.

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Because Patrick, it would make us too upset. Correct, correct.

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They're the best. Actually, you wear them to work out and you wear them out to dinner. That is true.

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And you wear them under suits and you wear them to bed.

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I mean, that's what I'm trying to get to my whole life. Yeah.

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So you don't need guilt and shame to be a good person. Not a good person. What's the word? You're happy-ish as anyone else, right? You have beautiful relationships. Yeah. You live a life of truth and freedom and service. So is what you're saying partly that guilt and shame are not needed to create connection?

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The little girl with the face on the window, looking in the window, looking into what other people's experience might be and wondering about it. maybe a little bit of longing. Is that tied to the lifetime of finding some sort of solace in breaking into people's houses and searching their house, looking around in college, taking people's cars?

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Was it all kind of like an effort to get inside another person's experience and take a peek and see if it's really all that?

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I think my favorite thing about your book and you is that I felt so strongly the tension of yes, I want certain things. I want meaning. I want relationship. I want this relationship with this guy. I want a career. I want these things that culture can offer, but I will not abandon myself. It's so easy when you're different in any way to decide that success is full assimilation.

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That like success is I do whatever it takes to become What you will celebrate. But what I freaking loved about your story was that that was not enough. Like that's not what you were doing. You were like, I want these things. I will not abandon myself though. I don't want to be you. I want to be me.

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I kept thinking of when you were dealing with David or dealing with your mom and I kept hearing the freaking, we have teenage girls, so I kept hearing the Taylor Swift line, I don't want to keep secrets just to keep you. Yes, yes, yes. Hearing that over and over again. So do you feel that tension? Like, do you think about that? Do you think about, I don't want to be you.

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I want to be me and have all the things that I want.

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Correct. Yes. Cosign. So that is an amazing message to people who are in relation to or thinking about sociopathy from the outside. What do you want to say? What do you want to leave us with for people who are listening who are on the spectrum. You call it a spectrum, right?

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Tell us how you experienced this as a kid. Because I know what it's like to figure out what you are and suddenly things make sense. And then you feel really bad for your younger self who thought they were lost. Tell us how you experienced being a kid. Maybe tell us about the pencil incident. Just what was it like?

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I can feel nothing and survive. It's so good. Because it's like- Well, you wrote it. No, I did the opposite. I'm working towards hers. No, I know, I know. But it's the opposite side of the same coin. Yes. You know? Yes.

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And similarly, like, I think so much about, like, when we're doing any work with queer communities or, and people are always bringing up, well, queer kids have such a higher rate of suicide. And there's like this jump of like, so it must be the queerness- That's making them depressed enough to da-da-da-da. And it's like, oh, oh, oh, oh. It's never the queerness that's the problem.

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It's the culture saying you shouldn't be that makes them so upset that they feel like they can't live on this earth. And for you, what I hear you saying is it's not the lack of feeling. It's the culture saying you should feel that makes it so excruciating. It's not the queerness. It's the homophobia. It's not the thing. It's the reaction to the thing.

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Well, I know you wrote your book for sociopaths to find a place to land and And it is that I am sure, but it is also such a fascinating study of all of us. And it taught as someone who probably errs on the other side of the spectrum for better and for a lot worse. It's made me think every single day since I read it. So thank you for it.

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Mm-hmm. You did it. So good. So good. Thank you. Thank you guys. Pod squad. We'll put a link to sociopath, the book everywhere. Just trust me. It's so good. Read it. Listen to it. Thank you. I hope you have a great day. I hope you guys do too. Thank you. Bye. Bye. See you next time. If this podcast means something to you, it would mean so much to us.

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Patrick, is the apathy, so is this feeling that you called apathy when you were little, but now you call tranquility or this feeling, is it a feeling? Is it an absence of feeling is my first question. And then the follow-up to that is this. One of the things we're always talking about on this pod is this quote that's like, the problem is the picture in your head of how it's supposed to be, okay?

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So my question, when I was reading your book, I kept thinking, okay, is the apathy the problem or is your belief that you shouldn't have the apathy? Like if a sociopath is born on an island with nobody around and no culture to tell that person how it should be, does the person just live comfortably with the apathy without the constant need to act out because the acting out is just,

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cultures what told you what it should be.

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Right. Wow. And what is it like? I kept thinking as I was reading, there's just something so humongous about an entire culture telling you, if you tell the truth, we will understand you more. If you tell the truth, like that is something we all use as like a safety. I don't know what we're doing with that, but it's usually true.

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But what is it like to be a person who knows for certain that the more I tell you, the less you will approve of me? Usually the more someone tells me, oh, we understand you. But your truth is more isolating.

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Mm-hmm.

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I don't know.

What Happened to Holly Bobo?

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One thing that has been described is that that scene in those first moments outside your home was chaos. You had people showing up. You had police arguing with other police over who had jurisdiction. You were running through the woods yourself. At one point, you even told the police she was younger than she was in the hopes of getting an Amber Alert.

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This is safe. We take you back to a core trauma. Breathe in. Breathe out. She is manipulating us. Breathe in. Breathe out. Why are you resisting? Is it too late to get a refund?

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How did your mom look when she showed up?