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CLIP: Uncovering a Secret Family

Wed, 11 Dec 2024

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Haleh Shoa, founder and CEO of Picturli, shares about the unique family trauma that led to the start of her company, accidentally uncovering secret families, and using technology to uncover hidden history.Hear Haleh's full interview in Episode 58 of Let's Talk Legacy.

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0.149 - 22.745 Haleh Shoa

I started Picturely in 2016 for several reasons. One was that during the span of my corporate career as an advertising executive, every time I had some slow moments at work and because we had really great equipment, I would bring in the old family albums and I would start digitizing those and sort of restoring the cracked photos and things like that.

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23.046 - 41.722 Haleh Shoa

And that was because the importance of that for me was because my parents left Iran during the Iranian revolution in 1979, and they could not take anything with them except the photo albums. And so it was like a couple of suitcases of photo albums I always wondered, like, why are they bringing that? You know, because I was only eight. I didn't have that insight.

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42.363 - 53.313 Haleh Shoa

So I was so grateful when I found myself sort of really wanting to know my own story and history, knowing that I probably wouldn't be able to go back. And I haven't been so far.

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53.333 - 59.939 Interviewer

What was that experience like for them? Did they ever share that with you? Have you ever gotten into that a little bit with them?

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60.475 - 80.614 Haleh Shoa

Yeah, we've talked about it and there's so many families that share our sort of trauma around that and not being able to take anything with you and really being stripped of your identity. My father was a pharmacist. He has his PhD in pharmaceuticals and he had one of the largest pharmacies in Tehran and

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80.794 - 99.788 Haleh Shoa

There's so many people like my dad who were just stripped of their identity because when he came here, they were not, you know, in the United States, the standards, they didn't understand the standards that my father had studied under at University of Tehran. So it's just so much trauma. It's not just leaving the home that you've built.

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100.148 - 108.975 Haleh Shoa

It's leaving the business that you built and the person that you had built for, you know, 50 some odd years. And we do talk about that.

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109.639 - 121.237 Interviewer

You've been doing this for a bit now, and is there a couple success stories or one that comes to the top of your mind of anybody that really touched your heart, that really showed the impact of you preserving these memories?

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121.957 - 145.256 Haleh Shoa

gosh, so many. One of my earlier clients was an African-American historian and his family was from the North and they had photos and letters dating back to the 1800s, which is super rare for African-Americans. And so he decided like, you know, let's scan these and I'm just going to donate these letters and some of the photos to the Schoenberg Institute in Washington, D.C.

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145.316 - 164.805 Haleh Shoa

So we scanned all the letters first and it was from his grandfather to his grandmother. Three weeks after the Schoenberg Institute got these letters, they called them and said, we just got another set of letters. And it looks like it's your grandfather. And it looks like he had another family. I mean, what are the odds? What are the odds? Wow. Can you believe that?

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164.985 - 168.606 Interviewer

He had another family. So in other words, he was kind of married to two people or what?

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168.746 - 185.739 Haleh Shoa

He had an affair of the heart with one of his distant cousins that he wrote letters to. And then when they found when she never had children and when her kin found those letters, they donated those letters to the Schoenberg Institute, which is also like, what? It's insane.

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186.199 - 186.76 Interviewer

That's crazy.

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187.02 - 214.658 Haleh Shoa

So that is one insane story. Another success story was we have a client who has the longest span of photographs in any of our collections. Her span came from the 1840s until now. So I literally had to learn everything about the history of photography with this client's stuff. And what had happened is her grandmother had gone through and named a lot of people on the back of the photos.

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214.858 - 236.972 Haleh Shoa

And through technology, we can actually do facial recognition. And so we found out that the grandmother actually had misnamed so many people because she couldn't see. But when we scanned it and we could really hone in on the photo and really see people's faces a lot clearer, we could tell her, well, that's actually not your great aunt. It's It's the other sister.

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237.512 - 251.805 Haleh Shoa

They look similar, but look, it's the other sister. And she was really pleased that we were able to do that because she's also sort of a genealogist. And there's so many success stories. I mean, like every client is so pleased that their stuff is safe.

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