One call to a very unusual hotline and everything that followed. Visit thisamericanlife.org/lifepartners to sign up for our premium subscription.Prologue: Ira talks about a priest who set up what may have been the first hotline in the United States. It was just him, answering a phone, trying to help strangers who called. (2 minutes)Act One: The Never Use Alone hotline was set up so that drug users can call if they are say, using heroin by themselves. Someone will stay on the line with them in case they overdose. We hear the recording of one call, from a woman named Kimber. (13 minutes)Act Two: An EMT learns he was connected to the call, in more ways than he realized. (16 minutes)Act Three: Jessie, who took the call, explains how she discovered the hotline. She keeps in touch with Kimber. Until one day, Kimber disappears. (16 minutes)Act Four: We learn what happened to Kimber after she called the line. (10 minutes)Transcripts are available at thisamericanlife.orgThis American Life privacy policy.Learn more about sponsor message choices.
Chapter 1: What was the first hotline in the United States?
The first suicide hotline in the United States was created in the early 60s by a guy in San Francisco who was a priest and also a journalist. And it was just him answering the phone at first. Ads on matchbooks and sides of buses said, thinking of ending it all? Call Bruce. Which, by the way, was not his real name. His real name was Bernard Mays.
But of course, the power of anonymity is so important to any hotline. People would call, and sometimes he could help them precisely because he had no connection to their life at all. Like, they could say anything to him. In those pre-internet days, that was completely new, to harness that kind of anonymity, the intimacy of it, this way, over the phone.
These days, of course, there are all kinds of hotlines for people in all sorts of situations. Prayer hotlines, psychic hotlines, also hotlines for homework help, for new moms. There's a hotline for owners of three-legged dogs, and another one specifically for anybody who swallows one. You know those little round button batteries? That hotline also handles any kid who pushes it up their nose.
Today we're going to devote our entire show to one phone call that happened on one hotline. A very unusual hotline. And then we have everything that followed from that one call. It takes you inside this world that I think either you're already in this world or it's totally invisible to you. Like it's all around you. You don't even register that this world is there.
Chapter 2: What is the Never Use Alone hotline?
Mary Harris tells what happened. She's the host of Slate's daily news podcast, What Next? We first broadcast today's show last year. One quick note, some parts of this phone call might not be great for young children to hear. I suppose I'm going to give you this warning before mentioning that part about pushing batteries up your nose. But anyway, here's Mary with Act One, The Call.
The call in this story took place a few years ago.
Thank you for calling.
It's a call to a hotline of sorts, though one I'd never heard about before and was surprised to learn existed. This is the music you hear when you're waiting for an operator.
I tried to break free, you tried to keep me bound. I tried to live right, you tried to keep me down.
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Chapter 3: How does a nurse support callers on a drug hotline?
But now I'm going... Never use a loan, it's Kathy. Hi, my name's Kimber. How are you? Good, how are you? I'm good. Let me catch your name one more time. Kimber.
The woman taking this call, her name's Jessie. She's a nurse. And she's taken thousands of these.
Let me get my book. Kimber, I've never talked to you before. I'm glad you called. Have you called us before? No, this is my first time. I just went out of rehab yesterday and I don't want to use that myself. Okay. All right. So what are you going to use, Kimber, and how are you going to use it? I'm injecting heroin. Okay. Probably fentanyl.
Probably fentanyl. Okay. The hotline is called Never Use Alone. And the idea is, if you're going to inject heroin or do a speedball, something like that, and there's no one around, you can dial them up. Someone will stay on the line, make sure you're okay. If it seems like you've overdosed, they'll call the paramedics.
All right, let me get some information, okay, baby? Give me your callback number in case we get disconnected.
Jessie gets the caller's phone number and address, just in case she has to call the ambulance. The caller, Kimber, is in Massachusetts. Jessie is down in Georgia.
You got your door unlocked? Let me check. Hold on. Yeah, it's unlocked now. Okay, so make sure I'm on speakerphone. Yep. All right. Are you by yourself in your home, in your apartment? Yeah. Okay. Do you have Narcan? I do. Set it out for me. Okay.
And if you've got anything else extra that you don't need to do your job, if you just picked up, if you've got some extra rigs, put away anything you don't need, okay? Okay. Because God forbid I have to call the ambulance, you... They'll take your shit when they leave, and I don't want them to do that. Okay. Hold on. Let me put everything away then in the bathroom.
I'm going to take a bunch of stuff out. Yeah, just, you know, like close the door, you know, or whatever. Just don't leave it right where you're at. How long have you been abstinent? About a month. Okay. So you know your tolerance is in the dirt, right, baby? Yeah. Okay. Okay.
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Chapter 4: What happens during an overdose call?
So you can hear, like, in the beginning, I'm upbeat, I'm happy to talk to her. I spoke with Jessie, the nurse. But you hear my voice change. Like, I... What is that? That... She was speaking with some speed, with some urgency. I just... I knew she wasn't gonna be... Careful. My mama spirit kicked in immediately. It's a sixth sense that you develop when you do these calls.
She's not like connecting with you.
She's like, she's like, just I'm here to get this done. She was there to do a job.
So all I ask you to do is you let me know as soon as you push your first dose. You let me know that you're done. Well, I have to hold my breath for a second because I have to do it in my neck. I'm not going to be speaking for a second.
So her neck, you can inject in your external jugular vein. But to do that, you have to hold your breath.
Is that because you do that when your other veins are like blown out? You're using terminology I don't understand, like half a point. What does that mean?
Um, when they hopefully weigh their dope, hopefully when you weigh your dope out, they're using a scale and they measure it out in grams. Um, 0.1 is zero is a tenth of a gram, 0.2. I mean, you know, that's, you know, drug user lingo for we'll nickel and dime it right on in there.
Small doses are one way to try to stay safe when you're using a drug like heroin or fentanyl. But the truth is, you really have no idea what you're getting if you're buying drugs off the street.
I said I just need a second because I got to find a vein. That's fine. We're in no rush. I just have really bad eyes, so it's really hard to do. Oh, God. Lord, yeah. But all the veins on my arms are sharp. Yeah.
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Chapter 5: What did Jessie experience during the call with Kimber?
Sometimes a personal call in wanting to talk. With her regulars, Jessie knows the names of their pets, keeps track of their birthdays. But her main job is just to stay on the line and check in every now and then. For this call, she was sitting at her kitchen table. Her husband walks in at some point for help with a Ziploc bag. But every minute or so, she's trying to get a read on Kimber.
You good?
About 60 seconds later, Jesse checks in again.
You okay, honey? Amber? Amber? Amber? Amber? Kimber, I'm gonna call your name about one more time and I'm calling an ambulance. Kimber? Kimber? You better answer me. Kimber?
What are you thinking in this moment?
I'm hoping that she just walked away from the phone. I try to give them 30 seconds. 30 of the longest seconds of your life. I try to give them 30 seconds to, oh, shit, I'm sorry I walked away from the phone. Or my earbuds disconnected. Or I hit the mute by accident. You know, that's what I try to do. 30 seconds. 30 seconds.
North Adams Public Safety. The sign's recorded.
1251 from Northern 911 transferring a operator from the Overdose Prevention Crisis Line requesting ambulance in North Adams, Massachusetts. I have the address of apartment 1 upstairs.
What's the nature of the request?
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Chapter 6: How do paramedics respond to overdose calls?
OK. Do you have any reason to believe they may have taken any narcotics?
We're an overdose crisis line, so it's possible.
Okay, ma'am, can you give me any specifics in terms of the age of the potential patient?
The female, her first name's Kimber, K-I-M-B-E-R.
We're going to get help en route, ma'am. If you happen to get them back on the line or gain anything further, please call us right back, okay?
Okay, yeah, I've got the calls merged in, yeah.
Okay, can you hear anything in the background, ma'am? No. I'm not picking anything up on my end.
No, let me call her name. Let me call her name again. Kimber, baby, answer me. Kimber? No.
OK, I'm going to get multiple agencies in route 2SS, OK?
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Chapter 7: What is the impact of fentanyl on overdose rates?
OK, thank you for letting us know.
All right, OK. Kimber, baby, I got you some help coming.
Jesse stays on the line. And then after a little while, you can faintly hear in the background over the phone, someone shouting, anybody home? The ambulance got there just three and a half minutes after Jesse disconnected from 911. Jesse hears him say, you awake? Then move that suitcase. And then she hangs up.
It's easy to read the statistics and still not be able to imagine what the overdose crisis looks like in this country. More than 100,000 people die from an overdose each year. That means that Americans are now more likely to die from an overdose than from a car accident. This hotline's purpose is simple and very single-minded. It's not to get people sober or push them into treatment.
It's just to keep people alive. One injection or snort after another. I wanted to know what it was like for everyone, the callers and the people like Jesse, who sit there while someone uses, knowing they could die right there on the phone. Jesse talks to people week after week, and sometimes they just stop calling. Maybe it's because they're not using anymore. Maybe it's because they're gone.
Actual overdoses on the hotline don't happen that often, and Jessie had no way to know what went on after she hung up that day with Kimber. She kept answering calls on the line, tried to distract herself. She says she probably walked around her yard, poured herself a Sprite. Then she got a text from a pretty close friend of hers, a guy named Steven. He's a paramedic, so he sees a lot of overdoses.
She has him in her phone as bruh.
He said, what up, homie? I said, um, I said, oh, just living the dream, taking some calls, some NUA calls, what you doing? He said, oh, he said, you know I'm at work today, right? And I'm like, oh, I forgot today's Saturday. Stephen works in Massachusetts. Texting back and forth, and I was like, oh, yeah, I had a never-use-along call. I had an overdose call in Massachusetts today.
Immediately, her phone rings. It's him. Like, instead of texting, he wants to talk. She answers. He said, where?
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Chapter 8: How can drug users stay safe while using?
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Act 2. Stephen. Stephen Murray, the paramedic who responded to that overdose call Jesse took, he had a lot of jobs before working in an ambulance, each with a very different uniform. The first was a black t-shirt. He was in a metal band. Then, a suit and tie. When he was in college, he ran for a seat on the village council and won.
Being a paramedic meant wearing a button-up with S. Murray on one pocket and a badge above the other. He carried his dispatch radio pretty much everywhere, which is how he got the call that day.
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