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Good & Evil

Tue, 1 Apr 2025

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When a woman's body is discovered at an Anaheim trash facility, a dedicated detective makes a promise to her mother to get justice. She doesn't know that search will bring her face to face with a serial killer. Keith Morrison reports.Keith Morrison catches up with Julissa Trapp in Dateline’s ‘After the Verdict’ series. They discuss what she’s been up to since appearing on Dateline, including her promotion to sergeant and her interview with the second of the two serial killers featured in the episode.Now with the cold case unit, Sgt. Trapp reveals details about a 40-year-old murder that was recently solved and, as she approaches retirement, tells Keith about the legacy she hopes to leave behind. Available exclusively to Dateline Premium subscribers. https://dateline.supportingcast.fm/listen/dateline-nbc-premium/after-the-verdict-good-evil

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Chapter 1: What tragic discovery sets the investigation in motion?

2.927 - 10.173 Julissa Trapp

She was on a conveyor belt. Only her feet were exposed. The workers thought it was a mannequin. Her last hours on earth were not pleasant.

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12.035 - 16.418 Narrator

Young women, murdered or missing. Families in anguish.

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16.778 - 19.861 Kathy Menzies (Kiana's Mother)

I would text her, and she would text right back. But this time, nothing.

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20.542 - 23.304 Family Member

When they killed her, they killed me.

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24.494 - 29.838 Narrator

A serial killer at work, and maybe he had a friend. That's crazy.

30.038 - 33.52 Interviewer

They don't work together. Serial killers are loners. Very rare.

34.061 - 41.326 Narrator

Two suspected killers on the hunt, hunting them, a detective devoted to justice, and more.

41.886 - 44.208 Keith Morrison

It's almost like you've adopted these young women.

44.488 - 48.851 Julissa Trapp

There was a lot of visits to my local church saying, please don't let me screw this up.

Chapter 2: How did Detective Trapp become involved in the case?

1304.522 - 1308.751 Julissa Trapp

I knew this was going to be a lot different than any other interview I had done.

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1309.192 - 1312.038 Narrator

Takeout with a killer. It is spicy.

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1313.081 - 1314.524 Julissa Trapp

I told you. I told you to be careful.

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1329.52 - 1344.913 Keith Morrison

For six months, Kathy Menzies waited for news about her daughter, Kiana. Still woke up every day, hoping she'd call or text and dreading a knock at the door. Which, in April 2014, is what happened.

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1346.114 - 1350.918 Kathy Menzies (Kiana's Mother)

My heart sunk when they came because I knew right away that it wasn't going to be good news.

1351.639 - 1365.199 Keith Morrison

No, not good news at all. Anaheim police told her that two men, Frank Cano and Stephen Gordon, were now under arrest for the murder of her daughter and three other young women in Orange County.

1365.219 - 1373.284 Kathy Menzies (Kiana's Mother)

What were you like that night? I just wanted to sleep. I wanted to, like, go to sleep and wake up and pinch myself.

1373.745 - 1374.985 Keith Morrison

And make it a different world.

1375.325 - 1375.706 Kathy Menzies (Kiana's Mother)

Exactly.

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