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True Crime Vault: The DNA Detective

1086.527

I felt like I couldn't give up hope. Giving up hope would have been giving up on her. I couldn't do that.

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True Crime Vault: The DNA Detective

200.772

It's very scary. This is such a quiet neighborhood. We keep our doors locked.

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True Crime Vault: The DNA Detective

2007.491

I'm shocked, but I'm not surprised.

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True Crime Vault: The DNA Detective

2014.332

Why didn't it happen to me? Would it have happened to me if I had stayed? What would have happened?

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True Crime Vault: The DNA Detective

2186.537

When I got the phone call that he had been arrested for this crime... I believe my first words were, I'm shocked, but I'm not surprised.

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True Crime Vault: The DNA Detective

2211.283

I met him for the first time when I began waiting tables, cocktail waitressing actually. He was sort of the house DJ. He was very shy. Everyone knew who he was because he had made a good name for himself in our little small town.

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True Crime Vault: The DNA Detective

2242.61

When we first started dating, it was fun. It was exciting. It was dangerous. He was married. He was the cool DJ. After we kind of had settled into our relationship, he became very jealous. He became very possessive.

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True Crime Vault: The DNA Detective

2268.132

Would just quietly say, you're worthless. Those red flags started to come up more often. The insults, the put downs, the controlling behavior.

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True Crime Vault: The DNA Detective

2284.118

He caught me smoking and sort of drug me back inside from outside, reading me the riot act, saying, since you can't sort of abide by the rules, you're going to clean the kitchen floor. I felt horrible. I felt demeaned. I felt scared.

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True Crime Vault: The DNA Detective

2309.717

I had worn sandals with socks out to dinner, and that was something that he totally hated. And he sent me to the car to sit in the car while everyone else had dinner. I started thinking about how I was going to exit the relationship at that point.

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True Crime Vault: The DNA Detective

2339.641

So then my mind went to, why didn't it happen to me? Would it have happened to me if I had stayed? I truly believe that his relationships with women were not healthy.

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True Crime Vault: The DNA Detective

2537.27

It's been such a long time. I mean, a lot of people have worked hard on this. I don't doubt anything they did, but to find out this is how we're gonna find the person who did this, it's just amazing. We thank you.

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True Crime Vault: The DNA Detective

2582.095

They sent us some DNA from a reference sample.

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True Crime Vault: The DNA Detective

398.87

She came downstairs and she said, Chrissy didn't show up for work.

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True Crime Vault: The DNA Detective

57.493

Giving up hope that they would find the person that did this would have been giving up on her

20/20

True Crime Vault: The DNA Detective

736.443

And Arm & Hammer power sheets deliver an effective clean at a great price. Think of all the laundry we'll do.

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True Crime Vault: The DNA Detective

804.173

He said it was probably in our best interest, not the viewer, just remember how she was.

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True Crime Vault: The DNA Detective

85.989

He said it was probably in our best interest, not the viewer.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

53.133

This is not right. Something's going on here.

20/20

True Crime Vault: Overboard

590.612

When we were there, we looked for their car. We, you know, walked around a couple of blocks. It's kind of where they would park. Couldn't find their car.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

606.143

And we went over to the dinghy dock, and this well-deserved dinghy was there. It wasn't properly tied. And I just told Jim, I go, you know, this is not right. Something's going on here.

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True Crime Vault: Overboard

639.269

As we came up on the boat, I noticed that the tarps were all off, all the controls were just kind of peeled back, and there was a towel hanging out one of the portholes. And I got a sick feeling in my stomach, just like something wasn't right.

20/20

True Crime Vault: Overboard

72.987

And he was in the Power Rangers.

20/20

True Crime Vault: Forgiving A Killer

2.33

Welcome to the 2020 True Crime Vault, where heart-stopping headlines come to life.

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True Crime Vault: Forgiving A Killer

220.163

Wait for daddy on the table.

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True Crime Vault: Forgiving A Killer

225.246

Who's ready for Christmas?

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True Crime Vault: Forgiving A Killer

228.368

Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Happy birthday, dear Kevin.

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True Crime Vault: Forgiving A Killer

2516.164

Come on back down the street.

20/20

True Crime Vault: Forgiving A Killer

2534.625

You've been listening to the 2020 True Crime Vault. You can find all new broadcast episodes of 2020 Friday nights at 9 on ABC.

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True Crime Vault: Forgiving A Killer

498.56

Like a family. What's going on here?

20/20

True Crime Vault: Forgiving A Killer

789.467

Can you tell me anything about him at all, Bart? Did he sound black, white, Hispanic?

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True Crime Vault: Family Secrets

1086.733

April's friends and family were devastated. And they felt like it was a slap in the face. But the people who support Jim Kaufman say, you know, he's a widow. And he's moving on with his life.

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Wild Crime: You've Got Your Monster | S4 Ep. 2

1186.091

I don't think there was an empty seat.

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Wild Crime: You've Got Your Monster | S4 Ep. 2

1193.256

It could brighten any room. It was a very sad service knowing that she wasn't going to be back. Just like any parent loves their child, James was devastated James will not have any grandchildren. James will not be able to give his daughter a hug ever again because of this creep.

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True Crime Vault: Family Secrets

173.985

The two of them were well known individually as well as together. They really wanted to be involved in the community. They also like to have some fun.

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True Crime Vault: Family Secrets

1738.113

Investigators say that same day they seized more weapons from Kaufman and at least $100,000 in cash. That was a game changer.

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Wild Crime: You've Got Your Monster | S4 Ep. 2

2110.616

We believe there are other victims in other states. We are continuing our efforts to identify those victims. We have been analyzing financial records, travel records, any other records that are available to us over the last several years.

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Wild Crime: You've Got Your Monster | S4 Ep. 2

2258.161

I'm Jennifer Currier. I'm Bill Currier's baby sister. He didn't have kids, so it was always his nieces and nephews. He loved his nieces and nephews a lot. He was planning on a family reunion that summer. He loved his house. He picked that area because the neighborhood was beautiful. It was safe. He wanted his wife to be safe.

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Wild Crime: You've Got Your Monster | S4 Ep. 2

2321.284

And of course, as a family member, you already know that there's foul play.

20/20

True Crime Vault: Family Secrets

276.229

As the media got there and they started to realize who it was, that's when they knew, okay, this is really a story. It was chaos.

20/20

True Crime Vault: From Classroom to Captive

120.758

Er wurde sehr wütend. Es war eine unabhängige Entscheidung. Wir wollten sie nicht hier haben.

20/20

Bad Romance: Web of Lies

1023.893

It was just so hurtful in knowing that in his life Donna could be replaced so easily.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

1044.416

Now Rebecca's pregnant? Now they're going to Hawaii and getting married? Like seriously, can I say it on camera? What the ?

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

1069.036

Where's Anna? There she is.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

1102.912

I remember visiting the new house.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

1106.474

Sarah Jane had the baby in her arms and she had a necklace that had Donna's significance on it. She wanted to put it on Bailey, and it upset Mark. Mark said, Mom, could you please take the necklace off? It makes me feel bad. That was the first instance where we felt that Mark said something that was inappropriate. That was kind of the beginning of the end.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

1132.108

I received a letter from Mark one day saying to me, I could not be called Grandma. So I wrote him back and I begged him, please let her call me grandma. And he said, I'm sorry, there's no way that I am going to allow her to call you grandma. And that's the way it is.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

1208.611

Say hi, here's Aunt Deanne.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

1233.11

Now that this woman came forward, hello, there's your motive.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

1337.509

Thank you for my business.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

148.895

Mark and Donna had a very nice married life. He was a nuclear engineer.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

160.76

The only thing was she would have liked to have had a child.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

1629.591

The detective said to me, I just wanted to tell you that we now suspect Mark to be the murderer of Donna. And I said to him, what are you saying? That's not possible.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

164.34

Donna called up and she was hysterical. She had just found out that she could not get pregnant.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

1691.784

Roger's name would be clear. That was one of the biggest reliefs I had, just knowing that people would not think that my little brother was a killer.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

171.582

And so when this didn't happen, it took a toll. There was a lot of tension in their home.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

1728.133

Here she comes. Here comes the world's best daddy.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

1757.826

You want to blow a kiss for daddy? Blow a daddy kiss. Aww.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

182.847

Mark was unhappy for the fact that I know he wanted to have a big family.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

1888.382

Well, I don't think that Roger would have ever done what they accused him of doing. All we wanted was his name cleared, you know.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

1989.09

Is the man still in your house? Yes, he's laying there with a bullet in his head. Did you shoot him? Yes, I shot him. He was killing my wife.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

2008.04

I don't know who he is.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

2015.828

Is he dead? I don't know. He's making weird sounds.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

2028.517

My baby's crying. My baby's crying. I've got to go. I'm coming.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

207.834

And this was the baby that they were going to adopt.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

211.343

Doesn't she look pretty?

20/20

Bad Romance: Web of Lies

214.104

Say hi, Bailey. Say hi, Grandma Sarah.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

2177.1

The mother's hiding something, I know it.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

2180.021

Tell me where she is.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

2230.053

I know I was sitting next to my husband when I heard the judge say that the verdict was guilty.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

2258.306

Heartbreak came first. Anger came second. Acceptance came third. and sadness never ends.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

2276.877

My first thought was to turn around and give Mr. and Mrs. Harrington a hug because they buried a son who the whole city of Springfield felt was a murderer.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

228.489

Here's Grandma Drescher.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

2294.9

We knew that Roger was innocent and it finally got proven. He was branded a murderer at the time, but then all this came to an end.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

2325.859

Say bye-bye. Bye, Daddy.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

2337.785

He is like a chameleon. I believe that Mark is a monster.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

234.591

Mommy's feeling very comfortable these days with Bailey. I think we've sort of bonded a little bit.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

2353.49

Mark was sentenced to life in prison with no parole. He had two counts against him, one for Donna, one for Roger.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

2387.277

You say I love you? Okay, let me see a kiss. Close up kiss. Close up kiss. Give daddy a kiss.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

241.143

Oh, I think we bonded a lot.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

245.544

Mark was just as excited to become a dad as Donna was to become a mom.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

254.347

They were just a model American couple.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

2567.796

Thank you. Thank you.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

259.488

Donna told me that Mark had a conference. I said to her, why don't you come to Florida? It would be so wonderful. Donna was excited to show off her baby. And as all of her trips, it was always very sad to see her go.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

27.941

On this very special day, at this very special house, a very special little baby is going to come live with us.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

275.809

Say hi, Daddy. Say we miss you.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

280.231

I dropped her off at the airport, and she left. We had hired a driver to pick her up this way. She could just take care of the baby.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

335.405

She calls me. She tells me this whole story. And I said to her, you had a really crazy driver. But you're home. You're safe. You're going to be OK. She said, I really am really scared.

20/20

Bad Romance: Web of Lies

386.211

This man, he beat my wife. I shot him. Please help me. He was killing my wife.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

429.947

We have a little girl here for adoption. She has dwarfism.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

436.65

Something is off. She's just a little girl. You think she's faking it? She has adult teeth? There are signs of puberty?

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

445.354

I don't know what's going on. How old are you? You should get a lawyer. You have no idea how those people hurt this girl.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

46.511

And who do we see but the mommy?

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

468.267

Is the man still in your house? Yes, he's laying there on the floor with a bullet in his head.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

637.492

It was around 11.03 on a Tuesday evening when all of a sudden we got a phone call.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

646.936

I remember screaming, Ira, tell me, tell me what is wrong. And finally he said to me, Sarah Jane, Donna was murdered. And I said to him, murder, what are you talking about? And then I finally said to him, we have to tell the girls and I have to break their hearts. And Wednesday morning, we were on an eight o'clock plane to Springfield.

20/20

Bad Romance: Web of Lies

66.716

Here comes our special delivery. Oh, look. Oh, sweet.

20/20

Bad Romance: Web of Lies

687.653

When Mark walked in with the baby in his hand, everybody cried.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

701.639

I couldn't imagine what an evil person he was and why he would do such a horrendous thing.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

725.234

My mother and I started to go to Illinois.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

727.835

We were taking turns in taking care of the baby.

20/20

Bad Romance: Web of Lies

741.823

I didn't understand it, but I loved him because he loved Donna. And that's what was important to me. We needed to get him some help.

20/20

Bad Romance: Web of Lies

752.728

So I suggested to Mark that he hire a nanny. And in comes Rebecca, this young, beautiful, tall, blonde nanny who has a heart of gold, wants to help out this poor man.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

799.42

Mark asked me to show her all the things about the baby and I felt really good about that.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

813.631

Stand up here. Show Grandma how you stand in your crib.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

838.018

There she is. Most beautiful girl in the world. There she is. Someone's here, Bailey. Someone's here. Oh, hey. You're there for lunch.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

871.952

Mark called up one day and he said to me, I just want to tell you some good news. The nanny was pregnant. And I thought, oh my God, what is happening here?

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

897.248

Happy Father's Day, dear Daddy.

20/20

Bad Romance: Web of Lies

913.935

It's all squeaky clean.

20/20

Bad Romance: Web of Lies

92.641

Donna was the oldest of the three girls.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

959.285

Look at Daddy. Say hi, Daddy.

20/20

Bad Romance: Web of Lies

961.146

Bailey's been walking for about a week. Go see him.

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Bad Romance: Web of Lies

97.296

She was outgoing, she loved life. Donna always said what was in her heart and in her mind.

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Wild Crime: Mask of Sanity | S4 Ep. 4

1101.989

I got a phone call one night and it was Russ County Sheriff's Department saying, we're out on Jimmy's property, we think he's a missing person.

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Wild Crime: Mask of Sanity | S4 Ep. 4

1113.937

It's kind of crazy because he's never left East Texas. He never wanted to. He had no desire to travel. That just wasn't him.

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Wild Crime: Mask of Sanity | S4 Ep. 4

1176.766

I was beyond panic at that point to realize there's really something wrong.

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Wild Crime: Mask of Sanity | S4 Ep. 4

1209.162

I find it hard to believe in this day and age, all the technology that we have, that somebody could disappear. It's like they were never here.

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Wild Crime: Mask of Sanity | S4 Ep. 4

1222.278

Man kann sich das Gefühl, die Frustration, die Angst und die Was-Wenns nicht vorstellen. Man ist einfach am schwächsten Punkt, um herauszufinden, was passiert ist. Wie haben wir die Begriffe verpasst? Warum würde jemand ihn verletzen?

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Wild Crime: Mask of Sanity | S4 Ep. 4

1404.629

Sie hat gefragt, ob ich jemals jemanden namens Israel Keys gehört habe. Er war ein Serialkiller, der vielleicht etwas mit meinem Onkel Jimmys Verlust zu tun hatte.

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Wild Crime: Mask of Sanity | S4 Ep. 4

1462.846

I see that little curl of hair right there. I wouldn't be surprised if that was my Uncle Jimmy's. I hope it's not his hard hat and hair, but I can't imagine what he might have went through if it is.

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Wild Crime: Mask of Sanity | S4 Ep. 4

1509.548

Ich habe hier schon lange Zeit verbracht. Auf der Straße. Das Fahrzeug wurde hier gefunden.

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Wild Crime: Mask of Sanity | S4 Ep. 4

1516.253

Ich sollte etwas gefunden haben. Ich erinnere mich darauf, dass ich sagte, dass er nicht zurückkommen wird. Ich musste ihr sagen, dass ich das weiß. Denn sonst ist es einfach... Es ist schwer, dass deine Mutter schmerzt. Ich wusste, dass Onkel Jimmy ihre Person war.

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Wild Crime: Mask of Sanity | S4 Ep. 4

1537.946

Ich wünschte nur, dass ich ihn anfangen und ihn anfangen könnte. Ich wollte nur, dass er hier sein würde. In all dieser Verrücktheit, in der wir leben, I'd love to see that truck going down this road. But right now this is what we're working with.

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Wild Crime: Mask of Sanity | S4 Ep. 4

383.394

Meine Mutter hat über ihr ganzes Leben mit Erdächtigkeit gespürt. Und die Erdächtigkeit hat sich über die Jahre gesteigert. So it's 2009. She was supposed to go meet somebody and she never came back.

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Wild Crime: Mask of Sanity | S4 Ep. 4

449.5

Er hatte diese schockierte Ausdruckung. Ich denke an das regelmäßig. Auch wenn sie unter der Influenz eines Drogen war, hätte sie zurückgefallen. Sie hätte eine nachhaltige Impression auf ihren Täter gelegt. Und er war nicht bereit, mit ihr zurückzukämpfen.

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Wild Crime: Mask of Sanity | S4 Ep. 4

482.673

Das ist eine schwierige Pille, die man trinken kann. Auch heute ist das schwierig zu trinken.

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The Lies Beneath

1856.049

Put some good in your morning and start your day with GMA.

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The Lies Beneath

2223.68

And when I called, I said, I'd like to file a missing person report.

20/20

The Lies Beneath

295.558

We used to have this band we called the Rifles and Dandelions instead of Guns and Roses. That was our silly way of coming up with a band.

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The Lies Beneath

3147.311

Are you guys Michael's family?

20/20

The Lies Beneath

404.177

This is a picture of Mike and I at his wedding.

20/20

The Code Breakers

1083.73

Today, the family is together remembering Kathy and the anniversary of her death.

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The Code Breakers

1101.015

Probably right there before she died.

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The Code Breakers

1110.973

I think, yeah, probably the worst thing for me is the why. Why? Why did it have to happen like, something like that?

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The Code Breakers

1890.181

We came over here and found her.

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The Code Breakers

1892.222

She's handcuffed.

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The Code Breakers

3576.044

Hey, how you doing?

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The Code Breakers

3577.065

Good morning, how you doing?

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The Code Breakers

4729.044

I'm going to hug you.

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Family Lies?

1153.348

My father, while he lived a small life, he was a very large man. And to know him, you could never forget him.

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Family Lies?

1165.877

This person killed at least once that we know of. This person's gotten away with murder. And chances are, it will happen again.

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Family Lies?

1205.434

My father has an elaborate estate. I mean, the man's worth at least 40 to $50 million. It's huge. You wouldn't know it going into the house. That's the only reason why I'm bringing up my father's financial work. It's because looking at this house, you would not know that he has a 25,000 square foot house up in New Hampshire.

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Family Lies?

1340.783

That was the plan, and he wanted me to come too. And, you know, I said, look, you know, you guys go do it. If I only knew what I knew, you know, now.

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Family Lies?

1640.305

Linda always felt that she deserved more than what she was getting. I don't know why she felt that way. I don't know, because she and my dad were always butting heads.

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Family Lies?

1739.285

I know he led a very lonely life. You know, it's at the age where kids were being invited to birthday parties and, you know, having play dates. and nobody was calling for Nathan to go to the birthday party. It was sad, and she hated that for her child. Any mother would hate it if her child wasn't included in anything. But yeah, it must have been hard for Linda not being able to fix that.

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Family Lies?

1767.31

Linda was a fixer. Linda had to fix things, or at least try to fix things, and she just could not fix that.

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Family Lies?

189.664

One of my sisters had called me and said, Linda and Nathan are missing. I kind of freaked out.

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Family Lies?

19.896

My father, he is in bed and someone shot him in the head.

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Family Lies?

208.224

Linda always did a float log. And when Linda got back, she'd call her friend Sharon, and Sharon never received a phone call.

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Family Lies?

27.645

Linda always felt that she deserved more than what she was getting because she and my dad were always butting heads.

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Family Lies?

2730.029

Thank you.

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Family Lies?

3314.701

If you laid on that couch for eight days and you got up to go to the bathroom, your legs would be wobbly because you haven't used them.

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Family Lies?

4172.329

I looked at historical data. I looked at thermal images of the Gulf Stream rings. All these different systems showed the currents going westward, and Nathan claimed he drifted eastward. And that did not make any sense.

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Family Lies?

4378.317

Where is June Osborne? Rise up and fight for your freedom.

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Family Lies?

4560.91

That was a small victory for me because at least a little bit of justice was prevailing through it all.

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Family Lies?

4618.562

It took several years, but Nathan Carman is now charged with killing his mother.

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Family Lies?

4731.081

I was very relieved that Nathan was going to be put behind bars. If Nathan was not arrested and not contained, I really think he would have gone on a murder spree.

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Family Lies?

4820.306

I got a call in the morning. Nathan was gone. And he hung himself. And I just cried.

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Family Lies?

4850.323

I attended Nathan's funeral. Myself and my sisters were there. I was very sad.

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Family Lies?

4929.543

What I'd like people to remember about my dad, he was kind, he was loving. He'd give you a hard time, but he always did it out of love. Linda was so kind and generous to her friends and the people around her. And I remember all the good times that Linda and I had.

20/20

Family Lies?

4954.574

He's a guy that did it himself. I mean, I love that guy, you know, and he loved me.

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Family Lies?

496.423

Oh my God!

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Family Lies?

4966.001

Every day. Yep. We went to the cemetery today. Nathan's got a stone there next to my uncle. Why is he buried there? There's no stone there for my cousin Linda. Where's her stone?

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Family Lies?

4987.842

Nathan should be remembered as a troubled soul. I'm happy, I'm relieved that Nathan was buried in the family plot next to my dad. Nathan the child belongs where he is. He needs to rest.

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Family Lies?

6.103

Oh, my God.

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Family Lies?

604.98

Cruz and Nathan had a very tight bond. It was definitely his best friend, his confidant. I went to the stable once with Linda and Nathan. We were ready to leave the stable. I said, well, where's Nathan? Go on in and get Nathan. She's like, no, Nathan loves to spend time with Cruz alone before we leave.

20/20

Family Lies?

629.008

And he was there for probably a good half hour, if not longer, just spending time with Cruz and his stall.

20/20

Family Lies?

736.073

My dad had five sisters and four daughters, and then he had his first grandchild. I think Linda was really excited that she had a boy to bring into my dad's life.

20/20

Family Lies?

760.882

I mean, there's not really even words for it. He had such great hopes for that kid.

20/20

Family Lies?

769.926

I think they were all different, different individuals. Elaine was the oldest. The next one down was Linda. She was more like John personality-wise. Charlene is the next one down. Valerie's the youngest. I think she was kind of like the apple of John's eye.

20/20

Family Lies?

848.045

Nathan was as introverted as John was extroverted, I think.

20/20

Family Lies?

856.071

He kind of treated him the same way that he treated me when I was a kid. You know, I mean, he couldn't do enough for him. The only problem with it is that John always looked at a problem, if there's a problem, if you throw enough money at it, it's gonna solve it.

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Family Lies?

900.536

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. The front door was locked. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I don't even know what to do. I don't even know where to look.

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Family Lies?

964.315

I came to check on my father to pick him up for an activity. He is in bed and someone shot him in the head. I don't think so. I walked into the bedroom and there's blood all over the back wall.

20/20

Family Lies?

986.673

When I saw the news and my dad being brought out in a body bag and them saying it was a murder, I lost it. I lost it. I fell to the floor and I'm crying hysterically.

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Mountain of Lies

1013.912

I guess it was about 10 o'clock at night. We got a text from Harold. Tony's been hurt. She's critical. Please pray. There was one more text that followed, and it said, my bride is gone. Just was inconceivable. We just couldn't believe it.

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Mountain of Lies

1039.753

It was probably about 1030 Central Time that night. Who told you? Was it Harold or the Rangers? Actually, Harold. He had texted.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

1049.177

He texted a lot of people. The same text. My pride is gone.

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Mountain of Lies

1064.775

And I thought, wow, he just seemed kind of together for having gone through what he went through.

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Mountain of Lies

1090.39

Harold called me and asked me to officiate the memorial service. He had this service entirely planned. He'd already put together a video montage of Tony.

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Mountain of Lies

1117.529

It felt like to me that he had been planning this for a while.

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Mountain of Lies

1138.803

We arrive in Denver and the whole time he never saw him cry. He never said, you know, I loved your sister. You know, never heard any of that kind of thing out of him.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

1176.077

We had to literally line up in order in order to walk back in for Tony's funeral.

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Mountain of Lies

1182.758

It's like we were sequestered, you know, and we could only come out when we were told to come out.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

1189.16

You know, I'm all the way positioned at the back because everything was planned out just like Harold always does.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

1196.738

He had already had a slideshow ready and prepared.

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Mountain of Lies

1242.412

I'm thinking to myself now, if Paula died, I'd be over here in a little puddle of mush. He has all this ready to go, and he's proud of it. The odd thing is that Tony was the one that died, but Harold's got most of the photos in there of him. What do you mean? There would be pictures of him and Haley, or him, Tony, and Haley, but not all of them were even about Tony.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

1328.2

We were taking notes.

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Mountain of Lies

1335.943

I thought that I was helping by doing that. We were making on our part to get justice. He had established a wall there. And so for us to continue to see Haley, we had to see him. And so it was like a price of admission. The real jewel was Haley.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

1430.947

My parents are buying the house, they're buying the car, they're paying for the tuition. That doesn't make sense.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

177.589

Every year on their anniversary, Harold would plan a trip with Tony. Typically, a phone would ring, hey, Lee, this is Harold. Tony and I are going to go on this little honeymoon trip. Could you take care of Haley for the weekend?

20/20

Mountain of Lies

2476.141

One is under a car in the middle of the night. And then Tony was on the edge of a dangerous cliff.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

2510.963

The last thing I'm wondering was him going home to his child.

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Mountain of Lies

2527.054

I believe that the closer you are to Harold, the more likely that he's going to harm or kill you.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

2946.029

Absolutely. I think that he was preying on and utilizing Christian ideals to manipulate people.

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Mountain of Lies

2962.897

When I would call out there, he would answer the phone. Did you see a change in your sister? When she moves to Colorado, she's in the shadow. And she's now a different person. She's a trained person. She's almost like a beaten dog.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

299.843

There was a series of text messages saying Tony had been involved in an accident and then things were critical.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

3007.071

I later found out from the neighbors, they said her face was empty. She didn't smile. It was kind of like a blank stare.

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Mountain of Lies

307.991

The first call we got from Barry, he said that Tony had an accident and she was in serious condition and it didn't look good. Of course we prayed that God would intervene and save Toni. And then he called back and said that she was gone. Three horrible words.

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Mountain of Lies

3111.795

And she was bending over to pick it up.

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Mountain of Lies

3120.919

Something hits her in the back of the neck.

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Mountain of Lies

3140.844

We found out later that, you know, Tony's actually crying in the ambulance on the way over. And she said, well, what really happened to me?

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Mountain of Lies

3224.927

There's just no way. We knew Tony Henthorne had bad knees. It just didn't make sense.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

3313.455

I reached out to Special Agent Johnny Grusing of the FBI and asked him if he would jump in and assist and work with Beth.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

3322.998

If Harold truly killed not only Tony, but his first wife Lynn, and we had him still running around in society, we needed to act quickly.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

3353.846

So we all felt like we were dealing with a ticking time bomb.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

3425.71

If you're going to be a good predator, if you're going to be a good wolf in sheep's clothing, you have to look like a sheep. Harold had to condition himself to show emotion.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

3456.502

I think Harold is different than most psychopaths because he's not someone who's going to hurt a stranger. He's fine to strangers. But I believe that the closer you are to Harold, the more likelihood that he's going to harm or kill you.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

346.13

She was very athletic and she really excelled and she was very, very smart at the top of her class.

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Mountain of Lies

3475.358

Yeah, we were very concerned about Haley. He wasn't treating her like a dad should treat his daughter. He was controlling her in a very unhealthy way.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

353.519

Tony always wanted to be a medical doctor. She felt like ophthalmology would basically allow her to do what she loved and give her some downtime and some family time.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

370.831

But ultimately, it ended up in a divorce, and to have a failed marriage and have that disappointment, I don't think she ever really accepted that.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

383.08

I think that she went through a period where she had to recollect herself. She did pour herself into her medical practice.

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Mountain of Lies

3888.886

We thought, really, he's a danger.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

3892.751

We were literally on bated breath. What's he going to do with her?

20/20

Mountain of Lies

3928.919

We thought, really, he's a danger. This man has killed supposedly two wives, and the last thing we wanted was him going home to his child.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

3947.273

Our primary concern when we arrested Harold was that he was going to create some sort of hostage or dangerous situation with Haley if he knew his freedom was at risk. So we had FBI agents watch his routine from when he woke up to when he took her to the church school and then when he went back home. So when we got the warrant, we knew exactly what he was going to do.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

3973.584

Yeah, we did.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

4069.355

My superiors were wondering if we should strike some sort of deal with Harold ahead of time just because everybody's primary concern was Haley.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

4103.351

Tony Hanthorne got regular royalty checks from her family because they're in the oil industry.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

4198.999

I think he had laid a trap for Tony, and he was committed now to carrying that through.

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Mountain of Lies

4206.003

He'd found his spot.

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Mountain of Lies

4247.768

Once I saw him using that tower, I'm like, that planning goes back over a month and a half before her death. Everything else made sense from this because how Harold knew the location when he called 911, how he had geocoordinates, how he would know he even had cell service there, how he knew that there was a cliff there.

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Mountain of Lies

4273.607

On September 9th, he spent from 10.30 a.m. to almost 9 p.m. in the park, 11 hours up there. I think this is when he found his spot. On the way back is when he started calling Tony's eye clinic. He started arranging everything for this anniversary trip.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

4297.113

After this trip. He wanted an isolated spot where nobody would be there to save Tony. And then here's where he starts making the calls to set everything in motion.

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Mountain of Lies

4337.237

The planning that Harold put into this, you're not going to have a smoking gun. But that planning and premeditation points towards intent, which points towards first degree homicide.

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Mountain of Lies

4357.546

I think Harold's lawyer strategy is to figure out what our case is and where he can poke holes in it.

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Mountain of Lies

4380.714

To tie Lynn's death to Tony's death, we needed to show that they were similar in a variety of ways. Harold had a lot to gain financially because of the insurance money. One is under a car in the middle of the night. Tony was under a deck in the middle of the night when the beam fell on her head. And then Tony was on the edge of a dangerous cliff.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

442.18

When you first meet Harold, you are very impressed. He does come across as polite, he's cordial, he's very engaging.

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Mountain of Lies

4467.896

We knew we needed to start strong.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

4489.088

So Harold's lawyer recognized that you couldn't explain away all of Henthorne's quirks. He sort of embraced him and said, sure, he might be quirky, but that doesn't make him a murderer. Truman's strategy in general was to try to make Lynn's death seem very innocent. Law enforcement closed the case within a week, so this is a big nothing.

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Mountain of Lies

451.202

He always had a plan. Very much a person in control.

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Mountain of Lies

4533.213

What I think had a big impact on the jurors was having about two or three park rangers talk them through how difficult it was to get up there and then how dangerous it was to be there.

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Mountain of Lies

4571.94

The prosecution gets two closes. I did the first close, and Valeria did what's called a rebuttal.

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Mountain of Lies

4603.001

Truman really hammered home that you can't tell the difference between a fall from a push. So after closing arguments, the case goes to the jury.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

4643.419

The judge reads the verdict. In the matter of the United States v. Harold Henthorne, we, the jury, find the defendant guilty. There was like audible whoops of joy that came out of the courtroom. I was just so, so happy.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

4671.317

Just elation.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

4689.967

The sentence was life in prison without the possibility of parole.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

4727.227

My brother and sister-in-law adopted Haley.

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Mountain of Lies

4739.693

When Haley came to us, she was almost afraid to do anything without permission. So it took her a while to figure that out. But it didn't take her long at all to, I think, attach. You know, I think she was hungry for a loving parent.

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Mountain of Lies

4785.83

She is a mirror image of her mama.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

4830.857

Haley gives herself the gift of forgiveness, and so she can lead the life that Tony wants her to have.

20/20

Mountain of Lies

4838.145

Because if she doesn't forgive him, he still controls her in her heart.

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Mountain of Lies

956.346

Initially, he told me that her heart rate was good and her respiration rate was somewhat low, and that she was not conscious.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update Classic: I Got the Ick

1176.269

It was my family's mystery.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update Classic: I Got the Ick

40.912

It was my family's mystery.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

1912.793

We just ask that you do the right thing. Do the right thing for our girls and keep this from happening to the next family.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

1946.278

It is sad. Nobody even here thought that we would still be looking for somebody in two years in a town this size, but we are.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

450.881

Now that the sun is up, the search here has resumed outside Delphi and Carroll County.

Dateline NBC

Good & Evil

1757.429

I don't think I'll ever be able to accept it. It's hard. It's hard.

Dateline NBC

Good & Evil

20.542

When they killed her, they killed me.

Dateline NBC

Good & Evil

2196.953

When they killed her, they killed me.

Dateline NBC

Good & Evil

2275.641

Yes. Yeah.

Dateline NBC

The 911 call in the Hollywood hairdresser murder. And investigators explore links between six violent deaths and a group called the Zizians.

1153.311

To this day, this vile being has showed no remorse, none whatsoever. We, along with our family and friends, have sat quietly and graciously and painfully watched and listened as Michael's good name has been murdered time and time again by those who publicly defend this murderer. Is Michael Brandon resting in peace? I don't think so.

Dateline NBC

The 911 call in the Hollywood hairdresser murder. And investigators explore links between six violent deaths and a group called the Zizians.

1175.488

We ask this court that Natalie Cochran be sentenced to life in the state prison for the rest of her natural life. So what did the jury recommend?

Dateline NBC

A murder suspect's brother under scrutiny. Breakthrough in parents' quest for answers. And should jurors question witnesses?

625.757

Major development today in a couple's fight for answers 14 years after their daughter's death.

My Friend Daisy

Episode 3 - Smile Now, Cry Later

1163.322

It was my family's mystery.

My Friend Daisy

Episode 3 - Smile Now, Cry Later

1209.194

Juan said that his grandson shouted, It's Victor. He hit Daisy. Daisy's mother, Susie, was in the car on her way home.

My Friend Daisy

Episode 3 - Smile Now, Cry Later

1914.202

It was hard. And especially because where it happened, it was like where she was living. And it's like, what? Like, how can it happen? And nobody saw nothing. Nobody heard anything.

My Friend Daisy

Episode 3 - Smile Now, Cry Later

2045.532

It was my family's mystery.

My Friend Daisy

Episode 3 - Smile Now, Cry Later

25.734

It was my family's mystery.

My Friend Daisy

Episode 3 - Smile Now, Cry Later

353.393

It was my family's mystery.

Under Yazoo Clay

Introducing: Under Yazoo Clay

121.028

It's not just about me, it's my family. This was my family's mystery. You know what I'm saying? What happened to Grandma Zinni? This is a story about family.