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Bad Romance: Betrayed

Tue, 13 May 2025

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An engaged woman and her mother are murdered; the killer's letters taunt police. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What happened in the double murder case of Angelique and her mother?

103.002 - 108.006 911 Operator

Topic 911, what is the address of your emergency? I need an ambulance. I'm dying.

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112.929 - 116.692 Advertisement Narrator

It starts on Friday night, the 4th of July weekend, in Norfolk, Virginia.

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119.374 - 130.162 Police Officer

It's about 1.30 in the morning. I'm patrolling the East Ocean View area when I got the call from dispatch to respond to Fryden Street.

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131.637 - 135.941 911 Operator

Guy, is anybody there with you? Is anybody there with you?

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144.229 - 154.859 Police Officer

As I'm approaching the steps, I can see that the interior front door is open and I can also see that there's a light on inside the residence.

156.471 - 163.774 Detective

and he sees an older woman on the floor, on the rug, next to a phone that appears to have blood on it.

165.294 - 168.555 Police Officer

This woman has been stabbed multiple times, and her throat has been slit.

169.656 - 175.798 Detective

Her name was later determined to be Vanda Goina, and she was 74 years of age.

177.859 - 203.813 Police Officer

I immediately drew my weapon, walked in, Asked the elderly female, is there anybody else in the residence? She said, my daughter is in the bedroom. My main concern was, is the person that did this still in the residence? Took a couple of steps towards the bedroom, walking down the hall.

Chapter 2: Who were Angelique and Vonda Goyena, and what was their relationship?

304.754 - 319.88 Emergency Responder

The person has to believe that they're going to die when they give you the statement. and then ultimately they have to die. For them to tell you their last thoughts is, this is who did it to me. That's very powerful.

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321.502 - 325.825 Advertisement Narrator

Walter Lucas, she says. Walter Lucas.

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329.207 - 332.83 Phone Operator/Technician

Mailbox one, you have three old messages.

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334.111 - 342.539 Family Member

On my answering machine from 15 years ago, It's Angelique and mom singing happy birthday to me.

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342.919 - 347.843 Angelique Guayena (victim, female voice)

Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.

348.443 - 353.127 Family Member

I kept it. So a month later, they're not on our planet.

353.207 - 356.329 Angelique Guayena (victim, female voice)

Happy birthday to you.

356.409 - 357.93 Family Member

Somehow it's still intact.

358.991 - 360.792 Angelique Guayena (victim, female voice)

And many more.

Chapter 3: How did Angelique meet David Hoshaw and what was their relationship like?

489.142 - 490.883 Angelique Guayena (victim, female voice)

My true love is out there still to be found.

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490.903 - 493.645 Angelique Guayena (victim, female voice)

I would love one day to get my poetry published. Or to get my story published.

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493.665 - 496.948 Angelique Guayena (victim, female voice)

You place a strong emphasis on family as well. You get an A in my book.

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498.217 - 521.713 Investigator

Angel's discovering so much more about David Hoshaw. He is an electrical designer, he's a scout master, he's seeming more and more to her like he could be the one. Within a matter of months, they fall in love, David proposes, and now he's moved in with her and Vonda.

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523.45 - 532.152 Angelique Guayena (victim, female voice)

I think my married name will be pretty, Angelique Elaine Hoshaw. I wonder if our children will have dark hair like me and blue eyes like David.

534.432 - 550.436 Family Member

Angel was into the Renaissance and she was having a special dress made. It was red trim, you know, just kind of fairytale. It was very much Angel. I still have the dress that I purchased to wear as maid of honor.

552.324 - 567.066 Advertisement Narrator

Of course, neither of those dresses are ever worn. Two months before her wedding, Angel is killed. Who would kill Angel and her mother so brutally, and why? The police are about to get a chilling clue. A letter from the killer himself.

572.135 - 586.768 CookUnity Ad Voice

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Chapter 4: What was the initial police investigation and key evidence found at the crime scene?

697.063 - 711.828 Advertisement Narrator

But remember, they do have one clue. Vonda gave the police a dying declaration and said it was Walter Lucas. Walter Lucas. He doesn't live in the home, but they found his DNA. Is this their big break?

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713.14 - 723.525 Family Member

Walter is my ex-husband. We were married back in our 20s. And then, you know, we got divorced. But he stayed in touch with the family. Everybody loved him.

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724.486 - 738.753 Walter Lucas (ex-husband)

When the detectives told me that Vonda mentioned my name, I knew I wasn't there. And I knew that she had Alzheimer's. But he said my DNA was there. And I said, well, of course, I was there the week before visiting them.

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740.185 - 761.005 Police Officer

The detectives find that on the night of the murder, Walter was more than 200 miles away. His alibi checks out, so they have to cross Walter Lucas off the list. If there is no break-in, the next question police ask is who could get into the house. Everyone who has a key, family, David the fiance, all have alibis too.

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762.281 - 771.588 Detective

The family members confirm that David Hoshaw is a couple hours away on the Middle Peninsula in Virginia at a Boy Scout week-long camp.

772.809 - 785.999 Advertisement Narrator

David is with his 12-year-old son. Other parents see him there at 11 o'clock Friday night. Now, 6.30 Saturday morning, he's there for camp breakfast. And David drives back into Norfolk that afternoon.

787.32 - 791.503 Investigator

Police track him down, and they tell him that they need him to come down to the station.

792.628 - 800.494 Detective

So we talked to them, gave the alibi, denied committing the murder, and because there's nothing that points to him, he's allowed to leave.

807.359 - 813.724 Investigator

Days are passing and there's no arrest, no clues, no clear direction.

Chapter 5: What clues did the dying declaration and killer’s letters provide?

978.483 - 983.027 Detective

Let's get Rick Maubin on this case. We'll work it together.

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984.649 - 988.593 Advertisement Narrator

Detective Rick Maubin is a veteran homicide detective with 15 years under his belt.

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990.123 - 999.589 Detective

I knew that this case was going to be difficult. But deep down, I felt that this was a solvable case. It may have taken time, but it was going to be a solvable case.

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1001.17 - 1012.297 Police Officer

You don't just look at suspects in a murder case. You also look at the victims. By 2008, Detective Malabon and his partner are digging deeper into Angel's past, and they find the ties to Wicca.

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1015.322 - 1022.224 Family Member

Angelique's relationship with Wicca was more interest, and I think that kind of trickled down to mom as well.

1023.024 - 1030.486 Investigator

You know, you can think of lunar rituals and secular worship. It is not black magic and Satanism.

1032.087 - 1043.67 Advertisement Narrator

Wiccan rituals often involve a special set of mystical tools, commonly including a wand, a pentacle, a chalice, and a large knife called an athene, used only for symbolic purposes.

1045.387 - 1071.671 Detective

Angel had become associated with a group that loosely operated out of a bookstore called the Mystic Moon. To the police, that opened a Pandora's box of, well, who did she meet there? January 2nd, 2008, there was a call to the Norfolk Police Department. There's a man that wants to talk about the Goyena case.

1073.052 - 1075.252 Detective

He considered himself a vampire.

Chapter 6: Who was Detective Rick Malbin and what was his role in the case?

1164.815 - 1180.502 Police Officer

Who is he? Hoshaw has a job doing electrical work for a Virginia company with U.S. Navy contracts. Detectives learn he tells Angel he's been placed on a project in the Midwest. Most of the time, he'll be living up there and commuting back to Norfolk.

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1181.633 - 1196.578 Family Member

He was supposedly building a ship, but why are you building a ship in Wisconsin or Michigan? It didn't make sense. There were definitely red flags that David possibly was cheating or hiding something from Angel.

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1197.198 - 1204.541 Detective

When the forensic investigators were going through the house, one of the things that was of interest was a computer.

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1206.147 - 1212.309 Detective

We got the search warrant for the computer, and once we got it to Forensic, that's when we found out.

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1212.889 - 1221.231 Detective

On June 24, 2007, David Hoshaw, as the administrator for the computer, changed the password to For Amanda.

Chapter 7: What connection did Angelique have to Wicca and the Mystic Moon bookstore?

1222.291 - 1226.552 Police Officer

Amanda? If David's marrying Angel in two months, who is Amanda?

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1231.001 - 1239.846 Advertisement Narrator

detectives start digging into everything David Hoshaw said he was doing before, during, and after the killings. Was he really in Boy Scout camp the night of the murders?

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1241.648 - 1264.91 Detective

We knew he was roughly 80 miles away at 11 p.m. at night, and he was there at 6 in the morning. That is not physically impossible to drive to Norfolk two hours, commit a brutal homicide, and drive back, but it's unlikely behavior. When you're looking at individuals capable of committing a homicide, David Hoshaw does not jump off the pages.

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1266.731 - 1270.434 Detective

But sometimes people that present that way are actually the most dangerous.

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1271.675 - 1276.219 Investigator

Turns out David Hoshaw was more dangerous than anyone imagined.

1276.859 - 1280.482 Advertisement Narrator

That's because there's a lot that Angel's Prince Charming hadn't told him.

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Chapter 8: Why did suspicion fall on David Hoshaw, Angelique’s fiancé?

1324.972 - 1325.432 Angelique Guayena (victim, female voice)

Breathe out.

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1326.132 - 1339.701 Angelique Guayena (victim, female voice)

This is safe. We take you back to a core trauma. Breathe in. Breathe out. She is manipulating us. Breathe in. Breathe out. Why are you resisting? Is it too late to get a refund?

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1339.761 - 1344.684 Unknown Speaker

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1351.573 - 1358.556 Advertisement Narrator

David Hoshaw was Angel's fairy tale hero, but detectives are coming to believe he may actually have been a dark prince.

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1361.197 - 1368.321 Detective

David Hoshaw became like a onion in the case. The more you peeled him back, the more strange information came out.

1370.062 - 1376.985 Police Officer

When Angelique Guyana meets her true love online, there's a lot he isn't telling her, like he's been married three times.

1378.846 - 1386.591 Naomi Hoshaw (David's first wife)

I am Naomi Hoshaw. I was David's first wife. We were 16 and we met at Busch Gardens when we worked there.

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It's all the fun and splendor of old Europe, but a lot closer.

1392.265 - 1408.621 Naomi Hoshaw (David's first wife)

At first, neither one of us liked each other. You know, I looked at him like, oh, he's too preppy and his uniform's on too perfect, you know. I gave him a little bit of attention and he gave it back a million fold. I felt special. Of course, when he asked me to marry him, I definitely said yes.

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