Laura Jarrett
Appearances
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Good & Evil
And every intersection for that date and time that they gave me, Frank Cano came up. For every single intersection, I was shocked.
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Good & Evil
I mentioned, you know, I do know that he has a friend that's Stephen Gordon.
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Cases to watch in 2025: Sean "Diddy" Combs and Bryan Kohberger. Plus, safety tips for AI scams.
And that brings us to deep fakes, which is getting harder for people to tell what is legit and what isn't.
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Cases to watch in 2025: Sean "Diddy" Combs and Bryan Kohberger. Plus, safety tips for AI scams.
So how can you spot the deepfake?
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Cases to watch in 2025: Sean "Diddy" Combs and Bryan Kohberger. Plus, safety tips for AI scams.
So with AI always evolving, do we have any idea what's next?
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Cases to watch in 2025: Sean "Diddy" Combs and Bryan Kohberger. Plus, safety tips for AI scams.
be mindful, be aware that this technology exists. Vicki, thank you for warning us about these pitfalls and what to expect with this new frontier we're facing. We appreciate it. Great conversation with you, as always. Thanks, Andrea.
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Cases to watch in 2025: Sean "Diddy" Combs and Bryan Kohberger. Plus, safety tips for AI scams.
Chloe has been at the tip of the spear on all of the reporting on this. But from a legal standpoint, the question in my mind has always been, will the charges, the criminal charges, be limited to Combs alone or will more people in the alleged conspiracy, as the government describes it, eventually get implicated.
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Cases to watch in 2025: Sean "Diddy" Combs and Bryan Kohberger. Plus, safety tips for AI scams.
It could be. And if they have their hands on any tapes, that's the kind of thing that is going to be tough for this defense. We know there's a grand jury hearing testimony today. Right now, we know that there's an active investigation going.
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Cases to watch in 2025: Sean "Diddy" Combs and Bryan Kohberger. Plus, safety tips for AI scams.
And I'm always curious how many of the people that the plaintiff's lawyer has talked to have also talked to the government, because talking to a plaintiff's lawyer is very different than going in and talking to the FBI.
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Cases to watch in 2025: Sean "Diddy" Combs and Bryan Kohberger. Plus, safety tips for AI scams.
If this entire thing falls apart, and I'm not saying that it's going to, if it does, though, Busby has a real problem with the rest of his cases, right? Because this is now sort of, you went for the king and you missed. If Jay-Z's attorney manages to get this Jane Doe sort of discredited, that's a strategic advantage to comms as well.
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Cases to watch in 2025: Sean "Diddy" Combs and Bryan Kohberger. Plus, safety tips for AI scams.
Yeah. I don't want to make it seem like it's going to be a slam dunk, though, because he has the money and the power to fight this. I do find it odd that he has dropped his effort to get out of prison. Right. I think that's curious. Yeah. Why? Just it's a. losing battle? Well, it's definitely a losing battle, but who cares? He has all the resources in the world.
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Cases to watch in 2025: Sean "Diddy" Combs and Bryan Kohberger. Plus, safety tips for AI scams.
I mean, he's staying behind bars until this trial is completed. That's months from now.
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Cases to watch in 2025: Sean "Diddy" Combs and Bryan Kohberger. Plus, safety tips for AI scams.
I think it's worth pointing out that we have a new president coming. We have a new U.S. attorney coming. all of whom can make this case go away pretty quickly and certainly potentially going to make other cases go away. It's a big enough deal and a high profile enough case that it's going to get close scrutiny by the next U.S.
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Cases to watch in 2025: Sean "Diddy" Combs and Bryan Kohberger. Plus, safety tips for AI scams.
attorney who is not somebody who has criminal law experience, who appears to have no connection to Combs whatsoever. But Damian Williams was willing to take on very powerful people and prosecuted senators down to Combs. So it'll be interesting to see whether the change in the in the top prosecutor makes any difference for him. Yeah.
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Survivors' haunting texts in Idaho. Questions for a New York prosecutor. And a spring break mystery.
Hey, good morning.
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Survivors' haunting texts in Idaho. Questions for a New York prosecutor. And a spring break mystery.
Yeah. So I think partly the background here is that there is a relatively new judge on the case who is acting a lot more expeditiously on everything and has a much different approach to sealing. Some judges are very lenient with sealing. Some judges really don't like it. Given that these two surviving roommates are likely going to be called to testify at trial—
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Survivors' haunting texts in Idaho. Questions for a New York prosecutor. And a spring break mystery.
I'm sure the judge's position is all of this is going to come out pretty soon anyway. So there's really not the same urgency in keeping it secret. What are the big new things that we've learned from these motions being unsealed?
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Survivors' haunting texts in Idaho. Questions for a New York prosecutor. And a spring break mystery.
The biggest revelations are the transcript of the 911 call and the text messages that are being sent between the two surviving roommates around four in the morning of the night that the students were killed. And all of that we had never seen before.
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Survivors' haunting texts in Idaho. Questions for a New York prosecutor. And a spring break mystery.
It's also clear they're not quite sure what they saw. You know, by all accounts, this was a party house, right? There's a lot of people coming in and out. And so I don't think it was that unusual for them to probably see someone that they didn't know in the house. But they were scared enough that it appears from their text messages that they hunker down together in the bedroom.
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Survivors' haunting texts in Idaho. Questions for a New York prosecutor. And a spring break mystery.
Because you can see one saying the other, come here, run. And then you don't see them say anything until the next morning around 10.30. They start texting their deceased roommates, not knowing, of course, that they had been killed, saying, please answer. And then they finally call 911.
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Survivors' haunting texts in Idaho. Questions for a New York prosecutor. And a spring break mystery.
Yeah. So we knew they called 911, obviously, and we knew when they called, but we hadn't seen... And what becomes clear is at least one or possibly two other individuals and friends come over to the house. They go look and they find Zanna Kernodle's body and they say to the 911 operator, something has happened in our house.
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Survivors' haunting texts in Idaho. Questions for a New York prosecutor. And a spring break mystery.
We don't know what, but you have to come over here because something has happened. And they say she's not waking up. And you think, like, gosh, they've been stabbed. What a horrific scene they must have seen there. But it's interesting. They don't say that on the 911 tape. And it's just, is it the shock? Was it too overwhelming? Could they not tell right away? It's unclear what's going on there.
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Survivors' haunting texts in Idaho. Questions for a New York prosecutor. And a spring break mystery.
But they don't mention any blood on the 911 call either. which I thought was curious, but again, it's hard to know. Is it they're so overwhelmed in the moment or they didn't see?
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Survivors' haunting texts in Idaho. Questions for a New York prosecutor. And a spring break mystery.
The judge has not yet resolved that motion, so it's going to be interesting to see how he handles it. But given his posture on the other death penalty motions, I think it's going to be an uphill battle for the defense team, also because the state of Idaho does not use death
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Survivors' haunting texts in Idaho. Questions for a New York prosecutor. And a spring break mystery.
mental difference or disability or illness as a way of changing the culpability of somebody's mental state when it comes to a case like this. And so it's not, at least so far, been a grounds to get the death penalty stricken in Idaho.
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Survivors' haunting texts in Idaho. Questions for a New York prosecutor. And a spring break mystery.
Yeah, they want to limit the use of the word murderer, which you can imagine a prosecutor is going to fight that because they were going to use that in closing as in openings. They also want to limit the use of the word psychopath and sociopath, which in my mind are like metaphors. medical definitions that actually have specific meanings.
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Survivors' haunting texts in Idaho. Questions for a New York prosecutor. And a spring break mystery.
And so I'm not sure that the prosecutors would have intended to use those terms anyway. And then they also want to keep out the phrase bushy eyebrows, which is going to be a big fight. The surviving roommates, at least one of them, reported to authorities that she saw a masked man with bushy eyebrows.
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Survivors' haunting texts in Idaho. Questions for a New York prosecutor. And a spring break mystery.
That's going to become an important fact, I think, later on at trial, as that's sort of the only person who's still living that's going to be able to ID Brian Koberger in some way. Now, of course, bushy eyebrows, it's not like a tattoo or a birthmark or something. There's lots of people with bushy eyebrows, and I'm sure he's going to say that's not enough to ID him.
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Survivors' haunting texts in Idaho. Questions for a New York prosecutor. And a spring break mystery.
But that's really all authorities have for someone spotting him in the house. And so there's going to be a fight about that.
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Survivors' haunting texts in Idaho. Questions for a New York prosecutor. And a spring break mystery.
I would think in at least the next few weeks or so, because so much of this just has to get wrapped up to keep the trial date, which the judge intends to keep at least so far. And it seems like, you know, August is a while out from right now. But these these things have a way of taking a while. And so I would imagine the judge is going to get all of this wrapped up pretty soon.
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Survivors' haunting texts in Idaho. Questions for a New York prosecutor. And a spring break mystery.
We're talking about losing my hour of light.