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Nobody Should Believe Me

S03 Ep07 RERUN: Trial of the Century

Fri, 09 May 2025

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We're rereleasing an episode from our original coverage of the Kowalski case that was published on 11/7/2023. *** With a verdict in the case days away, host Andrea Dunlop unpacks some of what’s happened so far in the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens trial with lawyer and trial consultant Jonathan Leach. They analyze the dueling opening statements, consider what each side is likely to look for in jurors, and which of the charges—if any—might be most viable.   Andrea shares insights on the lawyers after watching their interactions in court. She also weighs in on the extensive medical testimony so far, including a major revelation about the origins of Maya's controversial CRPS diagnosis. We also share a chilling account of Maya’s ketamine coma that was shared in court via missives written by Beata herself.   As both sides begin their closing arguments Andrea weighs the merits of what each side has told the jury and considers what the ramifications of the imminent verdict might be.  *** To support the show, subscribe on ⁠Apple Podcast⁠s or go to ⁠Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe⁠ where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free, including weekly recaps of the Kowalski trial.   Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: ⁠@andreadunlop⁠  Buy Andrea’s ⁠books here⁠.  For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit ⁠MunchausenSupport.com⁠  Download the ⁠APSAC's practice guidelines here⁠.  ***  Click ⁠here⁠ to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Why is this episode a rerun and what is its significance?

4.235 - 27.636 Andrea Dunlop

True Story Media. Hello, it's Andrea. You may notice that this episode is coming a day later than usual, and also that it's not the episode you were expecting. So we will be continuing our coverage of the Rady Children's lawsuit next week, but we ended up needing to re-record some things for this episode, so that is why it will be a little bit late.

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28.117 - 48.052 Andrea Dunlop

Covering a case that is unfolding in real time is can be a challenge and we want to make sure we are as accurate and precise as humanly possible. And frankly, that takes time and resources. I could not ask for a better team than the one I have on this show, but we are an independent production and I would rather be late with an episode than miss something important.

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49.122 - 71.161 Andrea Dunlop

so today we're sharing a very on-theme rerun from season three discussing the goings-on of the kowalski v johns hopkins trial right before the verdict came in we have been covering this case for almost two years now on both the main feed and the patreon and there are many parallels between this case and the Rainey Children's lawsuit.

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71.701 - 83.469 Andrea Dunlop

I've also made all of the subscriber episodes about the Kowalski trial available on the free tier of Patreon this month if you want to go and do a super deep dive. We have about a billion episodes about this trial.

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84.35 - 105.679 Andrea Dunlop

There's also a ton of other exclusive subscriber content available there and on Apple Podcasts, including this month our conversation about Elizabeth Finch and the anatomy of lies on Peacock, And if you subscribe on either of those places, you will get all eight episodes of season six on the launch date, June 19th. Subscribing is the best way to support the show.

105.799 - 118.142 Andrea Dunlop

But if monetary support is not feasible right now, we totally get it. Rating and reviewing the show, leaving comments on Spotify, spreading the word anywhere you talk to people and shopping our sponsors are also great ways to support.

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and help me be able to pay the fine folks who I could not do this work without, such as my incredible right-hand and lead producer, Mariah Gossett, our eagle-eyed producer and editor, Greta Stromquist, my fabulous co-host, Dr. Becks, our top-of-the-line sound engineer, Robin Edgar, and last but most certainly not least, our research producer and fact-checker, Aaron Jaiyee,

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who keeps us clean, cute, and out of court. We'll be back with a new episode next week. And in the meantime, let's go back briefly to 2023. Were we ever so young? Before we begin, a quick warning that in this show, we discuss child abuse and this content may be difficult for some listeners.

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If you or anyone you know is a victim or survivor of medical child abuse, please go to munchausensupport.com to connect with professionals who can help. People believe their eyes. That's something that actually is so central to this whole issue and to people that experience this, is that we do believe the people that we love when they're telling us something.

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