Jay Shetty

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How do we communicate with someone who doesn't want to communicate with us?

Hey everyone, welcome back to On Purpose, the place you come to become happier, healthier, and more healed.

Today's guest is someone that I've been looking forward to having in the seat.

Ever since I came across his content on social media, I knew I had to have a conversation with him.

Today's guest is Jefferson Fisher, a trial lawyer turned communication expert whose simple practical tools have helped millions handle conflict with more calm and clarity.

Jefferson is known for breaking down the exact words to use in real life moments when emotions run high.

His book, The Next Conversation, Argue Less, Talk More, is already changing the way people navigate arguments, boundaries, and difficult conversations.

I'm excited to welcome to On Purpose, Jefferson Fisher.

Jefferson, it's great to have you here.

Yeah, I mean, I really, you know, when I first came across your content on Instagram, I think it was, I just thought it was so clear.

It was so concise.

And I feel communication is one of these underrated skills that we all use all the time.

We all need it in every part of our lives, yet no one taught us how to do it at school or anywhere.

Yeah.

And I wanted to ask you, what has communication unlocked for you in your life and for the people that you help in a way that nothing else could?

Well, you just said that you are a good communicator because you've had a lot of tough conversations and hard conversations.

I think most of us, we avoid tough and hard conversations.

We don't even want to go there.