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Why is Chinese art being stolen?

Thu, 06 Mar 2025

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The market for Chinese art used to be very small and is now a billion dollar annual industry. What changed? And how is this all tied to a string of heists? Listen in to find out. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?

83.547 - 96.537 Josh

Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, and there's Chuck, and Jerry's here too, and this is Stuff You Should Know. And we're going to talk a little bit about Chinese art heists. So let's get started. Go.

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97.457 - 102.161 Chuck

That's right. Big thanks to Livia. She did a banger of an article for us.

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102.461 - 104.823 Josh

But also thanks to you. Where'd you come up with this idea?

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106.724 - 122.98 Chuck

Oh, was this a recommendation? I'm so bad about that. I don't know. But we also have to thank a reporter for GQ magazine named Alex W. Palmer, who in 2018 wrote a pretty

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126.192 - 142.72 Chuck

a banger of an article as well about these art heists of cultural, very specific cultural and art artifacts from China that have been stolen from museums in the 2010s and basically pose the question, is the Chinese government behind this?

143.12 - 164.092 Josh

Right. Are they commissioning people to rob art museums? And I mean, not just like, you know, some Tinkertown museum on the corner of a neighborhood that like, I don't know. You know, not a good museum. You know those museums? I'm talking like world-class museums like the Fountain Blue outside Paris. Paris, France, that is, not Texas.

164.753 - 164.874 Chuck

Yeah.

166.578 - 190.069 Josh

So, yeah, there's like a – still to this day, people don't know exactly what the deal was. And it seems like despite what Palmer, Alex Palmer was saying, Palmer basically was like, you know, didn't point the finger directly. But that was kind of the premise of the article that who knows who's behind this and it's possible that the government of China has some hand in it.

190.649 - 214.665 Josh

But also the Chinese art market, as we'll see, has blown up so much that it's also entirely possible that it's just like that makes a lot of sense for thieves to steal Chinese art. The thing is, is the string of particular heists that Alex Palmer talks about that really kind of form this galaxy of particular heists.

Chapter 2: How did the Chinese art market evolve?

2809.213 - 2812.695 Josh

Well, since Chuck said Jackie Champ, he unlocked listener mail.

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2812.735 - 2836.449 Chuck

All right, this is on swamp coolers. Hey, guys, you talked about swamp coolers in the history of refrigeration episode. We live in Santa Fe, New Mexico at 7000 feet elevation, where it's historically hasn't gotten hot enough to need air conditioning. Although summers are getting hotter here with a couple of weeks in the high to mid 90s every year now. It's pretty hot.

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2836.809 - 2857.938 Chuck

Our house was a custom-built house in 2005 and it does not have AC. So we bought a portable swamp cooler last summer to help just on those handful of really hot days when it's too hot to sleep. And it's really effective, I have to say, in the dry desert air. Some people have whole house swamp coolers on the roof with thermostats inside. They use a lot less energy than AC.

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2858.558 - 2876.084 Chuck

So they're a good option in places where it's dry and not too hot. They only lower the temperature 10 to 15 degrees. That's not bad at all. So anything 95 we get for a short time wouldn't really work. I disagree. 80 to 95 is pretty substantial. Yeah, for sure. But that is from Chandra.

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2876.344 - 2884.367 Josh

Thanks a lot, Chandra. Whole house swamp cooler. Can't you just see like the tops like open and it says Igloo and giant letters on the side?

2885.107 - 2887.348 Chuck

Yeah, sounds like a record name too, like an album title.

2887.608 - 2888.709 Josh

Whole house swamp cooler.

2889.696 - 2891.878 Chuck

Yeah, like the Chickasaw Mud Puppies or something.

2891.898 - 2906.01 Josh

Very nice, Chuck. Very nice. Well, if you want to be like Chandra and write in and tell us about something that we talked about that's whole house size, we love hearing that kind of stuff. You can shoot us an email to stuffpodcasts at iheartradio.com.

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