On Purpose with Jay Shetty
LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
Mon, 07 Apr 2025
How would your life change if your healing reshaped not just your body, but your entire way of being? What if the real change wasn’t about losing anything—but about gaining a deeper connection to yourself? In this deeply vulnerable episode, global superstar Lizzo sits down with Jay for an unfiltered conversation about loss, boundaries, transformation, and what it really feels like living in the spotlight. Lizzo shares how her loyalty to friends and her habit of seeing the good in everyone sometimes came at the cost of her own peace. She shares what happened when she finally stopped chasing relationships that no longer served her—and how distance gave her clarity on who was truly in her corner. Lizzo opens up about the pain of letting people go, the reality of feeling isolated, and the music that came out of her lowest moments. Lizzo dives deep into how the recent public scandal impacted her—and why she’s now more intentional than ever with her words, her energy, and her healing. Lizzo opens up about the responsibility of being a public figure, how her weight release journey evolved into a powerful personal transformation, and why she's chosen to let go of toxic energy. In this episode, you’ll learn: How to Let Go of One-Sided Relationships Why Some People Disappear When You Set Boundaries How to Honor Your Emotions Without Editing Them How Your Energy Shapes What You Attract How Love Without Drama Becomes a Flow State What It Means to Grow Apart Without Guilt Why Intentional Healing Starts With Self-Awareness Lizzo’s transformation is a reminder that you can still believe in people—and protect yourself. You can evolve—and still be soft. And you can face the hardest season of your life—and still come back to love. With Love and Gratitude, Jay Shetty Join over 750,000 people to receive my most transformative wisdom directly in your inbox every single week with my free newsletter. Subscribe here. Join Jay for his first ever, On Purpose Live Tour! Tickets are on sale now. Hope to see you there! What We Discuss: 00:00 Intro 02:31 Sound Bath For Healing 07:40 Understanding Astrology to Change Your Life 10:38 Choose How to Lead Your Life 15:28 How to Protect Your Peace 19:28 Getting Inspiration from Grief 26:02 Set Boundaries to Protect Yourself 35:05 Do You Believe in Love? 39:24 Continue to Be Yourself 43:14 Stand Up for Your Cause 46:39 Stop Forcing Relationships to Happen 50:18 Know Your Role, Stay in Your Lane 56:36 Advice for Aspiring Artist 58:40 How to Become an Unconditional Lover 01:02:40 The Power of Self Love 01:05:51 Be Real About Your Journey 01:11:03 Letting Go of What’s Holding You Back 01:14:12 Become the Best Version of Yourself 01:15:45 Lizzo on Final Five Episode Resources: Lizzo | Website Lizzo | YouTube Lizzo | Instagram Lizzo | TikTok Lizzo| XSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Chapter 1: How does Lizzo manage the pressures of fame?
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What's making you feel like now's the right time and what's given you the confidence and courage to feel that way?
I think what I learned about fame is even if that's really me, it just becomes kind of like character. It's a brand that now doesn't belong to you anymore. There was a huge scandal I was dealing with a lot. Sometimes I feel like the world just don't love me back. I had my first panic attack ever. And I had this thought. I was just like, you want to die? OK, we'll just die. Like, nobody will care.
I think it's also hard when the things that you stand for are the same things that you're being scrutinized for.
So when I pop out on a red carpet or when a video suddenly goes viral and my body's different, it appears like it was overnight. The weight that is no longer on me is not just fat or physical. I released so much to get to this point. And to be honest with you, I don't feel like I've expressed myself fully in the last two years.
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Chapter 2: What is the significance of sound healing in Lizzo's life?
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Oh my gosh. Lizzo, it is so great to have you here. I have been wanting to do this for years. We're such huge fans here. And the last time I saw you, you were performing live at Cannes Lions. You were on stage for the iHeart Festival. I was out there and I'd been told that I had two front row seats reserved so that I could hear you. Yeah. Now what happened is I came into the event.
I got into a few conversations. My podcast producer who's in the back right now was meant to take me to this seat. She's such a big fan that she forgot to take me to this seat. So by the time I wanted to make it to this seat, the whole crowd was covered. She was dancing in the front row.
She claims, she claims you said to her that you were really proud of her dancing skills or shouted something out at her in a really cool way. I'll have to verify what it was, but I didn't get to be front row. So I was sitting at the back enjoying your music from the back.
Well, you're in front row now, baby. I know.
How lucky am I? Front and center. How lucky am I? But no, honestly, we're such big fans here. And like I said, we've been looking forward to this. And even the first few seconds, we've just been powwowing and going back and forth. It's been awesome.
Oh, yeah. We've been chatting it up, honey. I love it.
All right. Well, I want to ask you, I saw that video on your Instagram. You were standing in a sound bowl. I have not been to that class yet. I have not seen that before. So what am I doing wrong?
Well, you don't have my mama and my sister because that was a Christmas gift from them. I remember on Christmas Day, they got me this. It was like a huge thing that they dragged in that was wrapped. And I was like, what could y'all have possibly gotten me in this huge? And they were like, we're so excited. And I unwrapped it. And I was like, is this like a water bowl? They're like, no.
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Chapter 3: How does astrology influence Lizzo's life choices?
Wow.
Yeah, I was shocked.
Yeah, because I've never seen one with footprints. Like I've never seen one that you stand in. I've seen ones that you lie down and they play them at your head or sometimes they come and put a crystal on your chest.
Yeah.
Like I've been in those and I love them. We actually did one with my team. We do a team retreat every year and we did one last year, but we did it outdoors and we had this amazing sound healer come and lead it. And when we woke up, we all could see like shooting stars. Wow.
no what is going on and then we realized it was neural link it was elon musk's like you know it was just this thing whatever it is i can't remember what it's called but we all woke up thinking like we could see something magical but it is such an amazing experience to have sound heal you and that frequency did it finally work when you were standing in it like yeah my ankles started itching and i was like what's going on i feel like ants were calling on my ankles and i kept scratching at them and i was like oh that's it's waking it's wake it's awakening me
It's so funny because I host these, I call them ass rams once a year. So it's like these little retreats that I do for all of the black women in my life that I love and I care about. And it's like an emotional and spiritual reset. And we do sound baths in the morning and we do sound baths at night. And this one time I was laying there and I like allowed myself to really just like go.
And it was so trippy. We all saw the same thing. I was like, because she was asking everyone. They were like, yeah, I saw like pink and purple. And I was like, yeah, I saw pink and purple. And it was like, and I saw a galaxy. And it was like, I saw a galaxy. So we all kind of like, it's real. I have too much proof that there's something else going on out here.
And it's all kind of guided by vibration. It's all led by vibration.
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Chapter 4: Why did Lizzo take a gap year and what did she learn?
I need to come to one of your Astorams if I'm allowed.
Oh my God. Oh my God. We're going to open up Astorams to everybody very soon.
I love it. That's so fun. And Lizzo, I know you're huge into astrology, right? Like that's something that you're really passionate about. I was wondering, have you ever had a conversation with an astrologist that really changed your life? Something they said that just shifted everything.
Yes. Chani Nicholas is my like astrologer. And so like every eclipse season, I'm texting her. I'm like, hey. Happy eclipse season, what's happening? But when I, so I've had knowledge of my sign ever since I was a little kid. Like, so I was super into crystals and like, oh, I'm a Taurus. And like, my dad's a Libra, my mom's a Virgo and like compatibility.
But then as I got older, when I met Chani Nicholas, she taught me about the chart and how like you're more than just your sun sign and how your big three, but it's like you're more than your big three too. You've got these like asteroids that go through and you've got these like, you've got the rock, you've got everything. Your Venus matters, your Mercury matters.
That really reframed how I think of myself because it kind of opened me up to being like, oh, I'm the universe. Like I contain multitudes. Like if I see a tourist trait that doesn't resonate with me, is there a Gemini trait that resonates with me? Is there a Virgo trait that resonates with me? And I think the most impactful thing I learned from her lately is that we have like house years.
And so 2023, I was in a 12th house year. And that's the year of hidden enemies. That's the year of shadow work. And once she told me that, it like really unlocked for me because I was like, oh. That makes sense. And then she was like, you're going into a first house year. So I've been in a first house year since April 2024. And now my birthday is coming up in April 2025.
And I have taken advantage of this first house year because I'm a Leo rising and my first house is all about self and how I present. So I was just like, I'm going to go in like everything is routined. Everything is like routine. practice. I'm just like, I'm so deep into my practice and like loving on myself and rediscovering and redefining who I am.
And now when I move into my second house here, I'm going to take advantage of that too.
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Chapter 5: What led to Lizzo's album 'Love In Real Life'?
I feel like I've been kind of holding my tongue and like staying to myself. But I think that it's for the best. Yeah.
because you know running your mouth these days sometimes it's just unnecessary and sometimes it can get you into some stuff you wasn't even trying to get into because people will misinterpret it and run with it as I found when I was like I'm taking a gap year I'm protecting my peace but like people were like wait so what's that supposed to mean I'm like oh oops I just I just I just wanted to let you guys know we're on that right now I'm in Bali and I'm having a good time and I'm just like quiet oops maybe I should have stayed quiet
That's the funny thing, right? Even when you announce that you're going to go quiet and it's like, it's hard. It's, it's, it's hard to figure it out. When, when do you feel, it almost seems like you feel more comfortable now, like being, stepping your toe back in and wanting to show more of yourself, wanting to be that way.
What's making you feel like now's the right time and what's given you the confidence and courage to feel that way?
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Chapter 6: How does Lizzo handle mental health challenges?
Yes.
And it takes so much time. Yes. And it's very visible because music is the biggest thing in the world. So you see someone for a few months and then you don't see them again when they're working on it. So you're saying that not only were you meditating, you were traveling, you were actually working on new music.
Yes.
So when you said, I was protecting my peace, I was taking a break, for the last year you were working on music. That's what we're hearing now.
Baby. When I, the last day of my tour was in Tokyo. I spent a whole month in Tokyo, in Kyoto. It was my first time in Japan. It was my dream place. I always wanted to go to the South. I was a little girl watching anime. I took that time. I stepped foot back into America and I walked into the studio. I've been in the studio since October, 2023. And I think I finished my last studio session for...
Love In Real Life, last week when I mastered it, I've been working constantly this whole time. I didn't take no time off. I couldn't, I really honestly couldn't. I took that little time in Japan that I allowed it for myself and I got in the kitchen and I rolled my sleeves up because I knew I was going to have to do my biggest one, you know?
Yeah. And then your music's great.
Thank you.
Yeah, it's awesome. And I feel like, I mean, even when you called it Love In Real Life, I feel like how much of that was inspired by what you personally had to go through and the challenges or how much was that was just pulling from other parts of your life? Was it disconnected or was it connected?
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Chapter 7: What is Lizzo's approach to maintaining personal boundaries?
And I was like, I wrote like four love in real life until I finally settled on the party stadium version. I said, why is this one so lit? Like I wrote these deep emotional ones. And then I wrote this one. I was like, well... That's Lizzo. And I think that was when I realized, oh, this is who I am. I go through this really, really tough shit, man.
And it's fine because I have learned to use my alchemy and turn it into gold and turn it into meaningfulness and like acts of rebellious joy that people can use in the world. And I'm cool with it. That's my mission.
Yeah, I love that. I love that. One of the things that I think you talked about there, which is so powerful, is you go through something really difficult. On the other side of it, there's this love in real life.
Yeah.
But in between, there's the depression, the darkness, the... The isolation, the worry, the fear. And we all go through that. We all experience at some point in our life where we're almost feeling like we have to hide. We feel like you said, I don't know who to trust, who to love. Will people accept me? How did you go through that? Like, what was that timeline like?
Like, what did it look like when you woke up? What did you do that helped? What did you, who supported you? How did it look?
Man.
Because that's hard. I...
inadvertently set a lot of boundaries at that time. And it was more like defenses because I was so afraid of people that even the people that I was close to, I just, I set up these boundaries and I, and I disappeared into myself. I'm not even going to sit up here and lie and be like, I handled it perfectly.
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