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Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: Phone Paux

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Hey, I'm Jay Shetty. This episode, Lizzo opens up like never before about self-love, transformation, and finding real peace in a world that constantly tries to define you.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: Phone Paux

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Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: Phone Paux

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It's not me anymore. Whoever Lizzo is to the world is not really even me. And that disconnect is depressing. It's true.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: Phone Paux

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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before

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I feel like I've been kind of holding my tongue and like staying to myself. But I think that it's for the best. Yeah.

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because you know running your mouth these days sometimes it's just unnecessary and sometimes it can get you into some stuff you wasn't even trying to get into because people will misinterpret it and run with it as I found when I was like I'm taking a gap year I'm protecting my peace but like people were like wait so what's that supposed to mean I'm like oh oops I just I just I just wanted to let you guys know we're on that right now I'm in Bali and I'm having a good time and I'm just like quiet oops maybe I should have stayed quiet

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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before

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What I feel like people don't know is when you are a music artist, you are either on cycle or off cycle for an album. I think nowadays there's so much fast turnaround with music and there's like the deluxe of an album is kind of like a industry standard that I think we've forgotten like what it means to be on cycle and off cycle because everyone's always on. I had planned on being off cycle.

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That means you're not in the media. You're not doing interviews. Your album cycle is done. You're not going to be played on the radio as much because people aren't working your records. You're not going to be promoting anything because you're working on the next album. So you can be on cycle and you can be back in the media and back in the press and back on tour.

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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before

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And I think the best, most simplest answer as to why I'm back now is because my album's done. This is my job. I am a musical artist. I make studio albums. I put them out. I promote them. I tour them. And I do it because I'm really good at music and I really want to help people with music because I know that music has saved my life. So I know it can save someone else's life. You know what I mean?

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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before

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And I think that's like the most simple answer. But I think it's loaded this time because at the exact same time, I was like, I'm going on a vacation. I'm going to be in Japan. I'm going to go to Kyoto and be in the woods and like disappear. I also had a huge scandal come out.

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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before

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And I think that it looked like I was shut down or silenced or hiding when really it was like, but it's just the end of my album cycle and this was planned. So I think this album cycle, I'm going to have to do a lot of work that I'm cool with. And expressing that and explaining that because I don't think people knew or know the difference between me being like, oh, I'm off cycle. I'm in Japan.

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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before

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I'm in the woods and I'm meditating. And, oh, this scandal just happened. Where's Lizzo? You know what I mean? So I'm aware of that. I'm cognizant of it. And I'm up for the challenge of explaining this to the people who care about me because they deserve to know, honestly. Yeah.

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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before

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It's not me anymore. Whoever Lizzo is to the world is not really even me. And that disconnect is depressing.

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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before

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Baby. When I, the last day of my tour was in Tokyo. I spent a whole month in Tokyo, in Kyoto. It was my first time in Japan. It was my dream place. I always wanted to go to the South. I was a little girl watching anime. I took that time. I stepped foot back into America and I walked into the studio. I've been in the studio since October, 2023. And I think I finished my last studio session for...

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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before

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Love In Real Life, last week when I mastered it, I've been working constantly this whole time. I didn't take no time off. I couldn't, I really honestly couldn't. I took that little time in Japan that I allowed it for myself and I got in the kitchen and I rolled my sleeves up because I knew I was going to have to do my biggest one, you know?

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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before

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Everything that I do, I pull from the strife and the grief that happens to me because the joy that I find eventually, I think, is the helpful part. I've never named an album before writing a song before. Like, well, "'Cause I Love You," I wrote "'Cause I Love You." I was like, okay, this sounds like the thesis of the album. Okay, we're going to call this album "'Cause I Love You."

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I wrote Special, and I was like, this sounds like the heart of the album. I'm going to name this album Special. When I say I've had the name Love & Real Life since... September, October, 2023. And I didn't write the record love in real life until maybe like February, 2024, because I had a very specific experience and I'd love to share it. I want to talk about it as much as I can.

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And I, and I never like repeating stories because I just feel like everyone's different. And I'm like, let me get you something different. But this story was so life safe, like life changing. I was, I told you, when I was in Japan, I was doing the best I can, but there was a huge scandal I was dealing with a lot.

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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before

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When I touched down in Los Angeles, it didn't hit me how deeply affected I was because I had been trying to be happy for everyone else. My best friend was there with her kids and I was trying to be happy for everybody. I was like, and I'm in Japan, I should be happy. So I was like, be happy. I got in LA. I had my first panic attack ever. I was in the car coming home from the airport.

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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before

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I think what I learned about fame is even if that's really me, it just becomes kind of like character. It's a brand that now doesn't belong to you anymore. There was a huge scandal I was dealing with a lot. Sometimes I feel like the world just don't love me back. I had my first panic attack ever. And I had this thought. I was just like, you want to die? OK, we'll just die. Like, nobody will care.

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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before

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And I was like, something's wrong with my chest. And I was like, okay. And I've dealt with anxiety for years. But this felt different. And I was like, okay, something's going on with my chest. And I was like, okay, do your anxiety protocol. And anxiety protocol wasn't working. like breathing and the circular breath. And I was like, no, something is pressing on my chest. And I had this thought.

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I was just like, everybody hates me. Everybody hates me for something that isn't true. But at the end of the day, because of the position I'm in, everybody hates me and there's nothing you can do about it. And I was like, okay. I got into the house. I could barely walk And I, like, collapsed by my bed and was like, oh, shit. I couldn't breathe.

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And I was like... And I was by the bed and I couldn't breathe and something was pressing on my chest. And from then on, I had been in a state of depression because I didn't know how to fix it. I was so... And I'm not trying to make nobody feel bad for me, but man... baby, I was dark and I was scared of people. I was like, I was like, you can't trust anyone. You can't love anyone.

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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before

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I don't want to talk to nobody, you know, because there was like a lot going on where like people were getting weird phone calls from people. And it was like weird, like stuff going on that I had never experienced before. Because I was like, this is wild. This is a whole nother level of my job that I've never experienced. And so I was scared.

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And I was like, I'm going to go to this concert because I really wanted to go to the concert. And I was terrified to go. I was like, I know I'm going to walk out and somebody's going to look at me and be like... And I was just like, and there's nothing you can do about it. But I went anyway.

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And man, when I say it was the opposite, I walked out and I just seen so many people look at me and they were like, Lizzo. They were like, oh my God. They were like, come here. I love you. I love you. And it was just people in a crowd and I was hugging them and they was hugging me. And I'm telling you, like people were, they were like, yes, yes.

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They were just like, it felt like me cheering me on being like, you did it. You know, you got over your fear. You got outside. You, You can trust people again. You can love people. People do love you. You're okay. And you know what? There's something you can do about it. And you did it. You stepped outside. And I was like, this is the only thing that's real.

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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before

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you can't get this kind of love on the internet. You can't, you absolutely can't. And I thought I could for years, years, because I built my platform on the validation of sharing myself and being myself with the internet and being embraced and being shown love. And I was like, this is love. No, love is in real life. And I felt it from not, I won't even say they're fans of my music, just people.

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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before

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Oh, it was the most life-saving thing. And I was like, I have to name my album Love and Real Life because I know I'm not the only person. I know I'm not the only person who sits on their phone and creates a version of themselves or is told by the world who they are and starts to believe it, even if it's not really who you are. You're like, oh, maybe I am not good enough. Maybe I'm not pretty.

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Maybe I'm not cool. And it's like, no, this... is a lie. This may be a reflection of some things and some real things do happen on here. And I love the internet. I'm a child of the internet. Like I get down with social media.

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But I also know that if your only sense of self and your only form of validation is coming from social media or coming from your phone or coming from a text back or coming from a dating app, It's not going to fill you up like being in the real world and building community with people and getting over your fear of it because it is scary. And so I've held that title.

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And I was like, I wrote like four love in real life until I finally settled on the party stadium version. I said, why is this one so lit? Like I wrote these deep emotional ones. And then I wrote this one. I was like, well... That's Lizzo. And I think that was when I realized, oh, this is who I am. I go through this really, really tough shit, man.

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And it's fine because I have learned to use my alchemy and turn it into gold and turn it into meaningfulness and like acts of rebellious joy that people can use in the world. And I'm cool with it. That's my mission.

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So when I pop out on a red carpet or when a video suddenly goes viral and my body's different, it appears like it was overnight. The weight that is no longer on me is not just fat or physical. I released so much to get to this point. And to be honest with you, I don't feel like I've expressed myself fully in the last two years.

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inadvertently set a lot of boundaries at that time. And it was more like defenses because I was so afraid of people that even the people that I was close to, I just, I set up these boundaries and I, and I disappeared into myself. I'm not even going to sit up here and lie and be like, I handled it perfectly.

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And I was hurt by people that I loved and I hurt people that I loved at the time. And I'm talking about the depression period. I'm not talking about me as a boss. I'm not talking about work. No, I'm talking about October, 2023 to now.

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And sometimes when you fight, it get real messy. I was scrapping. I was fighting for my life. There was times when it was like, you want to die? Okay, we'll just die. Like nobody will care. And I was like, oh, I'm talking to myself like that? When did this happen? I'm like, love yourself. I'm like, stay positive. I'm like, no, you have to live. You have to live for your mommy.

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You have to live for the... And it was like, no, bitch, you want to die? Die. Like, this is the time to do it. Because nope, everyone will hate you and nobody cares. And I think that defensiveness isolated me really bad. But there's something about isolation. that turns into solitude, that turns into introspection, that turns into, I am sitting alone with myself and I can finally see her.

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I was covered up by so much that I couldn't see myself. I was blinded by all these people in my space telling me who I am. I was blinded by my career, standing on stage and 20,000 people saying, I love you. You're amazing. I'm like, okay, thank you. I got to push through. I was never alone. I was never alone. Even when I was at home, I'd be like, you want to come over? Let me throw something.

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Let me throw a pool party. Let me have people come over and drink wine. Like maybe it was a fear of being alone with myself. Maybe it was a lack of self-awareness. But in that isolation where I think my defensiveness had pushed off and pushed away the people I love the most, I pushed them all away. I got to like sit with them.

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this person and I saw the things that other people saw sometimes that aren't the coolest or the nicest or that I'm the most proud of. I'm like, you are, you're moody. You're uncomfortable. You forgot who you are. You forgot why you're here. And I think that during that time, I embrace that part of myself.

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It's like, okay, you're moody, be in a mood, but what do you need to do to make yourself feel better in that mood? And what can you do to protect yourself in that mood and protect others? Sit by yourself, bitch, read a book, learn how to finally consistently meditate, exercise, get some fresh air, get in the sun. And it was like, I forced myself to do that shit. That

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I didn't want to exercise at first. Hell no. But I got one, got that cardio machine. And I was like, I never regret moving my body. I never regret it. I started, it's an anxiety technique. It's like you focus on your senses. Like, what can I smell? What can I taste? What can I see? What can I feel? And I started doing that. Not intentionally. I'm not a genius when it comes to this shit.

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I just started doing it. I was like, what are you eating? What are you putting in your body? You're putting things in your body that's making you sick. You know, what are you doing on a daily basis? You're bed rotting. And that's fine sometimes. But also when you're always doing it, your body doesn't move. You know, what are you looking at? What are you watching on TV?

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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before

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I had to throw my phone away. I'm about to throw my phone away. I'm like, oh God, it writes itself. I threw my phone away. did not look at it. I told my team, I said, anything I need to post or anything I want to post, you post it for me. I don't want to look at that shit no more. And that was hard too, because I love the internet, but it's doing a lot of things that are hard to finally be like,

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this is who I am and I need to become, I need to love her and I need to make her the best version of myself. Because guess what? Even after all this shit, even after looking at this aspect of myself that I was like, wow, that's not my favorite part of myself. You know, after all the things I've been through, all the relationships that have come and gone in my life, I still deserve it. I really do.

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And it's all I motherf***ing got. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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And not just safer for me, but safer for the public. I don't want to create divisiveness. I really don't. There's enough discourse. There's enough division. And I think that me doing something that I thought was for a good cause or from the goodness of my heart, if it's taken and creates negative discourse where people are going back and forth, I won't say nothing. I won't say nothing at all.

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Well, you don't have my mama and my sister because that was a Christmas gift from them. I remember on Christmas Day, they got me this. It was like a huge thing that they dragged in that was wrapped. And I was like, what could y'all have possibly gotten me in this huge? And they were like, we're so excited. And I unwrapped it. And I was like, is this like a water bowl? They're like, no.

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Don't worry about me. You don't got to worry about me at all. Don't you worry, honey.

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No, because I feel like there was no opposition. I feel like when I spoke up, the only opposition was the opposition to the cause. I think now when I speak up for something, there's opposition to me. It's like, ah, bad messenger. Good right message, bad messenger. And I'm like, oh, you know what? Valid. Absolutely valid. As a famous person or a celebrity right now, this is what I signed up for.

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And I'm like, so I'm not complaining. I can't complain. Do it. I'm going to just be quiet because I understand that it's creating more confusion than solution. And I only want... I'm a solutionary. I'm a solutionary. I like to bring solutions. I like to only speak up if I know it's going to help in some way. And if it ain't helping... Zip it, zip it.

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And I saw the footprint. There's feet, like footprint, big feet. Prince in it. And they're like, you stand in it. And I was like, and then what? And it's like, and then you sound bath. And I was like, this is actually wild. And so I was having like a really emotional day. I was like, I was very close to crash out.

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I don't have any new people in my life anymore. And I'm very careful about... And honestly, a lot of relationships that I had are gone. And it's not like bad. It's just like I just... I stopped chasing... Because how do I say this? How do I say this? I see the good in everyone. And I have seen the good in some really kind of like broken people who have done harmful things.

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But I always see the potential. I always see the good. And it's like that inner child in me that's like, oh my gosh, I can help them. But they are good. And I think that when they would do harmful things to me, I had a sense of forgiveness and understanding. And I would be like, I know that's not you. And so I would chase and pursue that relationship. And I'm not talking about romance.

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I'm talking about people I worked with. I'm talking about friends who were also people I worked with. I was like, I was hiring my best friends, you know? And I would kind of see past it. And meanwhile, I was allowing... something potentially nefarious or not good for me into my space, right?

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So I realize, and I think people all over the world, when you put up a boundary that protects yourself and you stop chasing the people who continually hurt you, you'll find that pretty soon they'll be gone. And you'll be like, wait a minute. I was keeping this afloat the whole time. It was me. And so when I isolated, a lot of people just sailed away. And I opened my eyes and was like, who's left?

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I dragged it outside, took my shoes off, put my feet in the earth for a second, stood in it and just rang it. And I was like, I still don't feel better. Dude, I'll feel better. And then I hit it. I kept hitting it and I was like, oh, this is kind of fun. And it, yeah, changed my day. I brought out my other bowls and I sat and I just hummed and played them. And it literally changed my day.

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And the people that are left are, you know, my best friend who I've known since like fourth grade. Do you know what I'm saying? And I love her and I cherish her. My boyfriend, you know, and I'm just like, wow. This is cool. I don't need to pursue anything or anyone anymore. I'm full. And I think that comes from that isolation. And I think it comes from appreciating the people that you have.

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And from like a business perspective, when you're friends with somebody and you hire them, it's just like it gets the power dynamic. It's up the relationship. It's up the social structure of the relationship. And it's something that, you know, I wanted to do when I was younger. I was like, yeah, it puts money in my friend's pockets. Like, let's go. Let's turn up. Let's see the world. Let's...

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And it was, you know, something I loved. But then I also realized it's not fair to them to be their boss and their friend. And that will help keep things just clean. I just want, and like I said, simple solutions. I don't want no more confusion ever again. I want my friends to be my friends and I want my employees to be my employees.

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And so you make everything music and creation and artistry. And you're like, oh, this should be a creative space and this should be lax. And everyone's like, no, man, this is a well-oiled machine. If Lizzo is the brand, then it's a company. You know what I mean? It's like everybody has their role and it's just like know your role and stay in your lane. That's something that I've learned.

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And I was actually, I was pessimistic about it. I was like, this is not going to work.

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I don't know. It's... I'm not out of it, man. I'm still learning what's coming next, but I'm so grateful to God because this... And I'm not just talking about, like, the scandal. I'm talking about the last, like, two years of my life. The last, like... All of this. It has prepared me for, I think, something so incredible that I needed to be ready for. That I needed to be this way for.

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You know what I mean? Because I was holding on to a lot of toxicity. I really was. Because... That's just the kind of, like, and I'm not even talking about toxicity within myself. I mean, like, toxic systems and structures and people. I held on to them because I was just like, I'm a Taurus. You know, I'm very loyal. I'm just like, till the wheels fall off. And it's like, man... Let go and flow.

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It was the first time I tested the, since Christmas, I tested the big one out.

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And I think that I had to learn that. Like, God had tried to show me this so many ways. It was like, knock me over the head. I was like, yeah, but that person was just mean. Knock me over the head. Yeah, but that was just a misunderstanding. Knock me over the head. It was like, yeah, wake up. Wake up, let go. You know, when you can't let go, you hold on to things that weigh you down.

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And I'm not even trying to talk bad about nobody because I feel like people needed to let me go too. Honestly, there are some relationships and dynamics that I know that like I was keeping them back from greatness. Do you know what I mean? Or not even, let's f*** greatness. Keeping them back from just like living. You know what I mean? Living for themselves.

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And it's not my job to think about that. But I will say, it's not just a, it's not a one-way street. I'm not sitting up here being the victim and being like, I had to do this for me. It's like, no, man, it's mutual. There's somebody out there whose story is like, yeah, I had, if... I had to let go. And now I'm flowing and things are coming to me that are meant for me.

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You know, I'm not just holding on to this situation that's starting to whoop my ass. You know, I'm aware of that.

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Yeah. I was so angry. I was like, so like, I was so angry from like October to January. I just have a lot of angry songs. And I was like, get it out. Yeah. Talk your shit. I had some songs that were very like, that are very dark, you know, and I left them on the album because I was like, I just think that people deserve to know. And like, it's songs about loss. Like I lost my dog, Puka, 20 years.

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You know, she was like a grandma to me, you know, and that was really hard. I wrote a song for her and I have like songs about like just friendships that ended that really hurt me. And I was like, leave it. You know, I had this one song I wrote and like I hadn't slept in like 48 hours. And it was like during one of the worst like mental breakdowns I've ever had in my life.

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Like I had the studio scheduled the next day and I hadn't slept and I was like tear stained face and like musty clothes. I was like, I'm going to go to the studio.

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And I went and I wrote this incredible song and I'm like, leave it. Leave it. You know, you owe yourself that. You don't always have to write perfect, polished pop hits. You can have songs about your real experience that you didn't go in and edit on this album. But then I wrote Love and Real Life in like February. And I was like, huh. I was like, this feels good. This feels familiar.

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And I started to realize my purpose. My purpose, like I said, is to turn this pain into champagne and help other people through it. I can't just sit and... be sad for 12, 15 songs. I got to give people something to step to, something to march to, something to perk themselves back up. I didn't do it because I forced myself to. I did it because that was just the place I was at now.

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I had written so many sad songs, so many mad songs, so many wrong songs that I could finally focus on what's right and what feeds my soul.

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A lot of them I'm like, like, you'll never hear this one. Never hear The Light of Day.

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And that's one thing I will tell any artist. It's like, make the song. It's not like once you record it, it's going to go on the radio tomorrow. It's not going to be on DSPs at midnight. Write the song, say the lyrics, say the weird thing. People desperately want to hear the weird thing. And then write another song. And if you, you know what I'm saying?

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Like that's part of the, how do I describe this? I always say like, there's some sort of stream of creation going always. And ideas like are coming out like fish. It's so wild. And so you're always kind of like, when you sit down and cast your net,

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to create, whether it's painting, whether it's writing, whether it's music, whatever, dance, you cast that line and whatever that fish is, you catch that fish, you pull it out, And that's it. You got to pull the fish out. You can't be like, well, I caught the fish, but I can't say that. Or I caught the fish, but I don't like this genre of music. I can't make a classical twerk song. Yes, you can.

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Make the classical twerk song, pull the fish out, and go fishing again. Cast your line again. You know what I'm saying? What did they say? It's full of fish. Plenty of fish in the sea.

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I'm such a better lover now. I worked really hard and I can't remember, it was like 2017. I was really deep in it and I had like candles and I was reading books and I was trying to understand what it means to be an unconditional lover because love with conditions hurt really bad. really bad. And I was like, please, I want to learn how to be an unconditional lover.

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And once I had all the crystals and all the candles and all the prayer and all the reading, and I was like, I get it. I get unconditional love. I realized that actually, As a human being, I'm incapable of unconditional love. We are. I think on a spirit level, vibrationally, we are unconditional love.

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And I think that is why it's hard to try to be an unconditional lover because it's not something that you can actively do. You just are. But when you tap back into your flesh, that's when the conditions come right back in. Mm-hmm. And I found that when I choose to love and flow, that is the most unconditional part.

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When I love on a material level, that's when the conditions start to come in and it gets painful and it gets petty and it gets weird. But every time I forget, because we're going to forget, we are human beings. We step back into the flesh every morning when we wake up. I have to go back to the flow. And I remind myself, I'm like, well, how would you feel if they did that to you?

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You know, how would you what would you think? And I go, oh, and I empathize and I understand. And it's so much easier for me now to accept because I think love is acceptance. You know what I mean? Like I like my one of my favorite phrases to tell myself and others is like, I love and accept you for who you are. I love and accept you for who you are.

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And sometimes when people piss me off, I go, I love and accept them for who they are. I have to remind myself that I do on a very soul level, on a vibrational level. I love them and accept them for who they are. Once I get into the material of it, ah, you f***ed up my day or why would you say that to me or why would you do this to me?

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It starts to get real conditional and painful and pain body and hateful and drama and mess. I don't want no drama and I don't want no mess. I really don't anymore. And honestly, I was addicted to it for a long time. Oh, my God. I love reality TV. I loved hearing gossip about other. I would be like, oh, my God. So what's the tea? What happened? What happened? Oh, my God. Like, I was very spunky.

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You know what I mean? And I realized, oh, that's like, you know, I see something online. I'm like, I go down the rabbit hole. I'm like, but what happened? I want to know the drama. And it's like, girl. That is lowering your vibration. And like, I hate to even say lowering vibration because people don't think it's woo woo. It's like I'm literally lowering my waking state by doing that.

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You're lowering yourself and then you start to attract drama. Oh, my God. When you are what you eat, when you eat drama, you attract mother drama.

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I was so addicted to it. And I think like now I'm a better lover. And what I understand about love is love is like, there's no drama. It's like calm water. It's like peaceful water because love is a flow state.

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It's so funny because I host these, I call them ass rams once a year. So it's like these little retreats that I do for all of the black women in my life that I love and I care about. And it's like an emotional and spiritual reset. And we do sound baths in the morning and we do sound baths at night. And this one time I was laying there and I like allowed myself to really just like go.

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You're at your best. You love it your best when you're just flowing. Don't try to understand it. Don't try to make it make sense. And don't try to like find problems with it. Just like love them. Yeah. You know, and be loved.

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And it was so trippy. We all saw the same thing. I was like, because she was asking everyone. They were like, yeah, I saw like pink and purple. And I was like, yeah, I saw pink and purple. And it was like, and I saw a galaxy. And it was like, I saw a galaxy. So we all kind of like, it's real. I have too much proof that there's something else going on out here.

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We are as kind to others as we are to ourselves. I'm learning that. I'm learning the people who say the meanest things to me and about me are going through it. They struggling too. How are you going to be nice to me and say something nice about me when you talk down about yourself? And I don't even mean like people who have low self-esteem. I'm talking like, oh, stupid. Why did I do that?

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I'm so stupid. Or like, oh, I look bad. Like, I don't like how I look. Like, oh, I hate myself. Like, it's little things like that, that you say over and over and over and over and your body's like, bet. You know? And that's why I'm so, man, I'm telling you, self-love can save, the world because it starts with you. Self-love could make this world a better loving place.

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You notice the people who are kind to themselves and love themselves, you're like, ooh, I like being around. You're so kind. You're so nice. Why are you so nice to me? It's like, because I'm nice to me. You know what I mean?

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But when I'm hard on myself and when I'm striving for perfection and when I'm beating myself up and when I'm doing the most- I can't control how I treat other people or how I look at other people or what I think about other people. When I'm in the trenches, the trenches are surrounding me. Now that I'm kinder to myself, and that doesn't even mean like, oh, I put on lotion every day and self-care.

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I mean like, man, like the way I look at the world, the way I view the world, the way I view myself through the lens of the world is kinder. You know what I'm saying? And I think if everyone was a little kinder to themselves, I think we'd have less and less of the negativity in the world.

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And it's all kind of guided by vibration. It's all led by vibration.

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Yes. Yes. I would say we could talk about my personal life because on a personal level, I do feel like there's just people who like our relationship just grew apart because we just don't even relate on the same things anymore. You know, I know a lot of people be like, oh, I grew out of that. It's like it's not really you grew out of it. You just grew apart from it. And that's fine.

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But I would say on like my public relationship, yes. I'm very careful about what's happening with me right now. I have been on an intentional weight release journey. And I put it on the internet. I posted about it maybe a year and a half ago. And I was very clear that this time it's intentional. I've always been very like... work athletic online.

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I work out, you know, I'm always like, you know, eating and showing how I eat and like always trying to like eat healthy. And I remember once I started becoming famous, like 2018, 2019, I was, and I was like a big girl. And I was like, it's going to be on me to show the world that big girls can also be healthy. Big girls can also have stamina. Big girls can also be loved.

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Big girls can also be sexy, et cetera, et cetera. All the things that I, you know, stood for. And I told people that I was going on an intentional weight release journey because I wanted to be transparent in that way. Because I do feel like I have a relationship with the public where it's like, I am their friend and it is relatable. You know what I mean? It is relatable to struggle with your body.

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So I put it out there. And I think over the last year and a half, as I've been doing it, my body has been changing very slowly. But I don't think people were paying attention. I would show different things like, oh, I showed my workouts or I'd show like what I eat in a day. Or I would say, I started off the year by being like, hey, new year, new me trends don't have to be toxic.

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Please be careful when you're posting about your January fitness goals because it can be very fat phobic. Like I was still very... like anti-fat phobia on this entire journey. But I think that, you know, we got to remember everybody not seeing your shit all the time. Everybody not seeing every video you post. Everybody's not privy to what you're going through. They're not with you every day.

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So when I pop out on a red carpet or when a video suddenly goes viral and my body's different, it appears like it was overnight. It appears sudden. And I think that was shocking to a lot of people because now the headline is Lizzo Skinny. which is a far cry from the truth because I'm not. I'm not.

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And even in my original video, I was like, when I reach my weight release goal, I'm not going to be considered thin by any means, by any metric, by any BMI. I will still get

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trolled and talked about and the fat jokes will still be there but I'll be happy and I said that because I meant it and here I am and I was like how did y'all how are y'all how where's the the disconnect but I think the disconnect is communication yeah yeah that's such a good point I've been so transparent. So if anyone wanted to look at my paper trail, it's there.

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But I also know that they're not going to. And my responsibility as someone who has this relationship with the public and they have it with me is to continue. I'm not going to stop and get defensive and be like, God, I did for a second. I was like, I'm not skinny. Why are y'all saying that?

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And that kind of baffled me because it's just like, if y'all knew how much I weighed, if y'all knew what my body really looked like, and I was like, oh, okay. just show them what your body looks like. Just be real about it. Just be real about the body dysmorphia that you're experiencing, you know, now that you have released some weight that's kind of new to you.

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Like, you know, that is also like, it's strangely inverse. Like show them, just show them your journey more. Just continue to do it. Instead of being angry and defensive about it, be real about it because that's what your friend loves about you. And that's what you love about your friend, that you can be real. You know, I'm still in it because this is all very new.

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Like, I think it's now just starting to be like a point of conversation and discourse. And I think my responsibility with that is to make sure that it's still me.

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Because the weight that is no longer on me is not just fat or physical. I released so much to get to this point. And I think people can see that. And I don't want to describe anything as loss. I'm not experiencing any loss. I've actually gained so much. I've gained like... a sense of self. I gain like a lifestyle that I actually really love. And I'm like, I can maintain this.

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The way I like to describe it, because I'm very like science and woo-woo. Yes. Me too. I'm a tourist. So, you know, I need like grounding of it. We're constantly vibrating. I think when people hear vibration, they think like, okay, girl, like, oh, we're on a vibe. I'm like, no, you know, your heart is beating constantly.

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You know, I've gained new perspectives on like nutrition and the science behind cardio or weightlifting. Like it's exciting to me. That's that Virgo moon. I'm like, oh, this is interesting. I love science. But yeah, I just think that like, People aren't going to understand this right now, but it's the most body positive way to experience what I'm going through.

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I don't want to use any negative terms. Weight loss is like, girl, I lost weight. And it's so funny because my man, he's so funny. Like he was the one who kind of like brought it to my attention at first. I was like, because at first I was like, I was like, oh my gosh, I lost five pounds. He was like, where did it go? I was like, what? And I was mad at him. I was like, why would he say that?

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But he's like, where did it go? You know, I was like, oh, interesting. You know, it's like, I don't think I want to lose anything. I think I want to win. I think I want to gain. And I think that like

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I want to be very intentional with the words that come out of my mouth because there's young people who are watching me and they're experiencing, you know, what I'm putting into the world and they're applying it to their own experience and their own life just like I did when I was a kid. You know, I saw how the media treated people who gained and lost

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lost weight and how that affected my brain chemistry and how it made me, I'm still not perfect. Like, you know, I'll still mess up when I'm talking about things or I'll still have some toxic, you know, diet culture things that come in my brain. I just swatted away like a fly. I'm like, no, we're not doing that. We're not doing that. You know what I mean? Like, this is your body.

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You only get one of these. Enjoy her and let her enjoy you. So I just want to be very careful about, With my words and intentional.

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And it's not for me. Because if this was all for me, you know, I take this being a public figure very by heart. But if we was sitting alone and we was drinking tequila, I'd be like, well... But it's like, no, like... Be careful with your words because it could affect somebody in ways you don't even know. Even me releasing the weight has affected people. And I take that seriously.

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I take that responsibility. And so because of that, I want to transmute it into something that makes those people feel comfortable, you know, and feel like, okay, less, less afraid of it. You know what I mean? And understand it more.

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Your blood is coursing through your veins and you're like made mostly of water. So when your heart is beating, it's sending a vibration through your entire body. Like if you sit still enough, you can feel like, the vibration. So it's like everything is constantly vibrating and you can vibrate high and you can vibrate low and you actually have the power to control that.

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And once I learned that, I was like, oh, it's like a cheat code to life, to existing. So well said.

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I can play anything. I found that if I lick my finger and I have a crystal glass, I can make a sound. I think that's just one of my gifts is that when I was a kid, I played recorder, and then I played flute, and then I played piccolo, and then I can play clarinet, and I can play piano, and now I play guitar. So I think with sound bowls, I think I just am an instrumentalist and it's an instrument.

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Give me an instrument and I'm going to make a beautiful sound.

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Oh, I can really make them sing to where your ears start to, it gets like really loud in your ears and you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Is somebody in there with like a bowl in my head? That's how it starts to feel sometimes.

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Oh my God. Oh my God. We're going to open up Astorams to everybody very soon.

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Yes. Chani Nicholas is my like astrologer. And so like every eclipse season, I'm texting her. I'm like, hey. Happy eclipse season, what's happening? But when I, so I've had knowledge of my sign ever since I was a little kid. Like, so I was super into crystals and like, oh, I'm a Taurus. And like, my dad's a Libra, my mom's a Virgo and like compatibility.

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But then as I got older, when I met Chani Nicholas, she taught me about the chart and how like you're more than just your sun sign and how your big three, but it's like you're more than your big three too. You've got these like asteroids that go through and you've got these like, you've got the rock, you've got everything. Your Venus matters, your Mercury matters.

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That really reframed how I think of myself because it kind of opened me up to being like, oh, I'm the universe. Like I contain multitudes. Like if I see a tourist trait that doesn't resonate with me, is there a Gemini trait that resonates with me? Is there a Virgo trait that resonates with me? And I think the most impactful thing I learned from her lately is that we have like house years.

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And so 2023, I was in a 12th house year. And that's the year of hidden enemies. That's the year of shadow work. And once she told me that, it like really unlocked for me because I was like, oh. That makes sense. And then she was like, you're going into a first house year. So I've been in a first house year since April 2024. And now my birthday is coming up in April 2025.

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And I have taken advantage of this first house year because I'm a Leo rising and my first house is all about self and how I present. So I was just like, I'm going to go in like everything is routined. Everything is like routine. practice. I'm just like, I'm so deep into my practice and like loving on myself and rediscovering and redefining who I am.

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And now when I move into my second house here, I'm going to take advantage of that too.

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So it's going to be Virgo, which is my moon. And actually it's these practices that I've been doing on an external level, how I like make them internal, you know, how I reframe my membrane and rework the nuts and bolts in my brain and like make it like my life.

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Like right now it's a routine, but I'm going to make it a lifestyle and I'm going to get really cerebral with my Virgo moon and I'm going to get really meticulous and I'm going to get really in the paint, like hard working because that's what that Virgo is. That Virgo allows me to like work my ass off. And that's where I really shine. And that's where I'm really the most happy.

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Well, first of all, I used to be like, oh, it's what I am and that's why. But it's not like, oh, I am a tourist. It's I have tourists, which I think gives it a little bit more purposefulness and it makes it a tool. So I'm like, how can I use my Leo rising right now? Big hair, big personality, big identity, big bold expression, color, fire. How could I use this fire right now?

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Because that's what I have right now. And then when I'm in Virgo, how do I use this earth? How do I use this knowledge? How do I use this quest for knowledge, this hardworkingness, this steadfastness? How do I use that? How do I use the private parts of myself and protect the private parts of myself? I think that is how astrology has been very helpful to me because it's not just like what I am.

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I don't just like settle for it. I'm not like, oh, well, that's why because they a Scorpio. That's why. No, it's like they have Scorpio and that's what they're choosing to do with it. I have Taurus and what I'm choosing to do with it is be ruled by Venus. I want to be all things beauty and love. You know what I mean? With a little bit of sprinkle of hard work.

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Man, once I learned what a 12th house year is, it did kind of make sense. You know, because I'll fight against closing up and isolating. I'll fight against it because it was like a toxic trait that I had when I was younger. Like, I would get—and mind you, I already told you, I've been crying a lot lately. So if I cry, it's not because I'm sad. I just am real sensitive lately and googly-eyed.

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But when I was younger— Instead of expressing myself, I would lock up and get really quiet and shut down and just like hold it all in. And I went to a point where I didn't speak for like a whole summer. And when I was younger, I didn't talk to anyone. I didn't talk out loud. The only time I used my voice was at night and I would sing to myself and that was it.

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So I thought that that was a really toxic trait and I have been working on expressing myself. So when you see me online, that's a form of expression for me that I've worked to get to. When I talk to the people who I work with, that's a form of expression that I worked really hard to get. When I express myself to my friends and my family and my loved ones, I've worked hard for this.

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So to be quiet was like, oh my gosh, I'm reverting back to a version of myself that I worked away from. But I think once I learned like, hey girl, you don't always need to be quiet. You don't always need to talk. Sometimes you need to sit back and just be quiet and observe what's in front of you now and be present. Stop being in the future. Stop lamenting in the past.

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What's in front of you right now? And like when I said I was on a gap year, I was in the middle of it. And I think people were like, oh, she's about to take a whole year off. I'm like, no, I was just in the middle of it. I just hadn't like expressed myself really. And to be honest with you, I don't feel like I've expressed myself fully in the last two years, like how I want to.

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Beyonce, you changed my life. You sang that gospel medley and the way you made me feel. I was like, I want to make people feel this way with my music. So thank you so much.

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It's not me anymore. Whoever Lizzo is to the world is not really even me, and that disconnect is depressing.

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The weight that is no longer on me is not just fat or physical. I released so much to get to this point. And to be honest with you, I don't feel like I've expressed myself fully in the last two years.

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It's not me anymore. Whoever Lizzo is to the world is not really even me. And that disconnect is depressing.

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It's not me anymore. Whoever Lizzo is to the world is not really even me. And that disconnect is depressing.