John
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American History Tellers
The Wright Brothers | Fliers or Liars | 2
Ah, is it always this loud? It's in rough shape. I got damaged by custom agents when it was sitting in storage.
American History Tellers
The Wright Brothers | Fliers or Liars | 2
Ready? I'm about to release the restraining rope. Yeah, I'm ready.
American History Tellers
Buffalo Soldiers | The Brass Letters | 1
He gave everything away and got nothing in return. I want something more.
American History Tellers
Buffalo Soldiers | The Brass Letters | 1
Just don't get yourself killed. Ma would never let me hear the end of it. You take care of each other while I'm gone. I'll send money when I can.
American History Tellers
Buffalo Soldiers | The Brass Letters | 1
Get those people off the ground. Your regiment will remain at rest today.
American History Tellers
Buffalo Soldiers | The Brass Letters | 1
Sir, these men will parade just like everyone else. They are no different than any other unit. They will be treated as equals. They are not equals. You'll do well to remember that.
American History Tellers
Buffalo Soldiers | The Brass Letters | 1
First, you quarter my men in the most flood-prone area of the fort. Do you know how many of them have fallen ill with pneumonia? And now this? I will not accept any more indignities. I'm drawing the line.
American History Tellers
Buffalo Soldiers | The Brass Letters | 1
You dare contradict a direct order from your superior officer? General, these men have trained hard. They've earned the right to parade here just like any other unit in this fort. You can call it insubordination if you like, but I won't dishonor these men by sending them away for your comfort. I ought to have court martial charges drawn up against you. Go right ahead and try.
American History Tellers
Buffalo Soldiers | The Brass Letters | 1
That horse meat makes me sick. It was bad enough before it went rancid. Come on, you need to keep your strength up. Just one bite and I'm fine.
American History Tellers
Buffalo Soldiers | The Brass Letters | 1
I can't take this anymore. If there are any bullets left, you may as well shoot me dead. Don't talk like that. We're going to be rescued. Jack and Pierre ran for help a week ago and still haven't returned. They're probably dead. Just like you and I will be soon. If we're lucky. You can't lose hope. We just need to hold on a little longer.
American History Tellers
Buffalo Soldiers | The Brass Letters | 1
Someone should put Forsythe out of his misery. He's a fighter. Just like the rest of us. We've all survived this long. There's got to be a reason. We can't give in now.
American History Tellers
Buffalo Soldiers | The Brass Letters | 1
That must be the Cheyenne coming to finish us off.
American History Tellers
Buffalo Soldiers | The Brass Letters | 1
Is that what I think it is? A rescue party?
American History Tellers
Buffalo Soldiers | The Brass Letters | 1
We don't serve your kind here. You all better find somewhere else to go.
American History Tellers
Buffalo Soldiers | The Brass Letters | 1
We just want a drink to cool down. That's all. As best you don't make any trouble.
American History Tellers
Buffalo Soldiers | The Brass Letters | 1
I ain't the one causing trouble. You all are the ones plundering our homes and stirring up the freedmen. It ain't right.
American History Tellers
Buffalo Soldiers | The Brass Letters | 1
All we're doing is protecting those freedmen from anyone who wants to do them harm. You think wearing that blue army coat makes you a man? You think it makes you better than me? It makes me a soldier. It makes me someone who fought for freedom, for the Union. I think that at least gives me the right to a drink after a long day.
American History Tellers
Buffalo Soldiers | The Brass Letters | 1
Where are you going? None of your business. Go back to bed. If you don't tell me, I'm going to wake Mom. Fine. I'm going to Nashville. To do what? To enlist in the Army. The Army? In case you hadn't noticed, the war is over. I know the war is over. But they're recruiting black men to go west and fight Indians. I heard about it in town. You? In the Army?
American History Tellers
Buffalo Soldiers | The Brass Letters | 1
Oh, so you think you're some kind of hero, then? Wait until I show you and your friends what you really are.
American History Tellers
Buffalo Soldiers | The Brass Letters | 1
You aren't even tall enough to look over a fence. Who in their right mind is going to let you have a gun? I promise I'm going to send money home. The army pays regular wages. It'll be more than I'm making here, that's for sure. But what about Ma? What about me? I can't stay here and be a sharecropper, working for a man who thinks he still owns me, dying in the field like our old man did.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
Need someone to step in. And where are you? I'm in Uniontown, Ohio. So Northeast Ohio, home of our favorite place.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
No, but not to leave Monica out. The in-laws in this story actually lived in Suwannee, Georgia.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
2018. We're in Cincinnati, Ohio. My wife and I got married in 2008, so we had been married for about 10 years at this time. We had children. We had been traveling back and forth between families. My family's in Northeast Ohio. I'm about fourth generation from a small town. So they're all located up there. And my wife's family had moved around quite a bit growing up from her father in sales.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
So they were in Georgia and my sister-in-law was in Cincinnati. So when we had no kids, it was no big deal going back and forth to Georgia from Ohio, throw kids in the mix. That becomes no fun. We start saying everybody meet in Cincinnati and everybody's happy. It's a neutral ground. Thanksgiving one year with her family, Christmas that year with my family, flip-flop the next year.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
Yes. So I have two sons. My sister-in-law had one son at the time. Keeping the kids entertained during the preparation of Thanksgiving is not always an easy task. So we try to find something fun for everybody to do. My brother-in-law is a pretty active guy. He's in law enforcement. So he's like, hey... They're putting in this new bicycle park in a nearby town. I think it'd be great.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
We get all the boys loaded up, take the bikes over, keep everybody entertained before Thanksgiving dinner. We'll come home. Everybody will be hungry. Great. We've decided on this about a week prior to Thanksgiving. So I'm thinking, all right, this is my chance. Bring up my childhood roots. You know, I grew up riding BMX and hitting jumps and doing all this stuff.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
So I'm like, dad's going to rule this Thanksgiving.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
30 years ago, I used to be able to do this great thing. I stopped riding when I was 13 years old. So, you know, no big deal. I still got it. So I look on my favorite place, Facebook Marketplace. I'm going to go pick up a cheap bike. I'm going to take it down. I'm going to rule Thanksgiving. I find this nondescript bike for 50 bucks. And I'm like, oh, pfft. This is a no-brainer.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
Oh, yeah. It's actually a pretty nice bike, which should have raised some flags at the time. But I was like, this dude wants to get rid of it. And I'm pumped. I'm ready to get out there. And these kids don't know what's in for them. They're going to see it. So we get down to Cincinnati and we have an easygoing evening that night.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
Wake up the next morning, bikes and everything get loaded in my brother-in-law's Honda Pilot and head over to the bike park. So we get there. And as I mentioned, this is a new bike park at the time. So new that everything is muddy. There's no grass. There's no nothing. It is pure swampy mud with beautiful asphalt blacktop track.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
Yep. Half of the area is like a real mellow pump track for kids. And my young nephew at the time was on one of those strider bikes where you're pushing with the feet, no pedals. I'm like, oh, this will be perfect. And then over to the side is like the X Games factor. That's like the jumps and all the stuff. So we start off on the pump track and the adults are kind of standing around.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
It's my father-in-law and I and my brother-in-law and the three kids. And there's a couple people coming and going, but it's pretty mellow. There's not a lot of people there. My oldest son at the time was about seven and he tires quickly of the pump track. He's like, this is lame. So we go over to the real jumps and I'm like, Oh, get ready. It's coming. And the
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
Kids are kind of moseying around the track. And I'm thinking to myself, now I know when I was young and coming around jumps, people would go over the tabletops and they were getting air.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
Hey, let's back up. Let's let dad step in here. So I'm thinking this is my time to shine. So I roll up to the first jump. So I push off and go down this incline and it immediately goes to a tabletop jump. And I'm like, all right. And I start pumping. Well, when I was 13, I was 115 pounds soaking wet. Now I'm a full-grown man on a child-sized bicycle. There's a lot of momentum.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
Your center of gravity has changed greatly. I go down the track and I immediately realize I've got too much speed. This is not going to go well. So I hit the jump and... Attempt to adjust in air, and for whatever reason, I overcorrect. The handlebars go in a 90-degree angle.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
I hit the ground, and the front tire smashes the ground, and the handlebar goes into my left thigh and crashed into the muddy ground grass next to us. Luckily, I had a helmet on, thank God. I'm shocked. My brother-in-law kind of wanders over and he's like, oh man, you ate it hard, didn't you? And I was like, it's not good. So I go to stand up and immediately feel blood rushing down my leg.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
And I sit down and in an attempt of self-preservation, jam my thumb into this gaping hole that's in my thigh.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
So for the listener who's not been on a bike recently, that's like a half dollar. Yep. And I was so kind as to send some photographs.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
You can look at them now. Okay. It's going to be graphic now or later.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
It has grips. The distance you're seeing is how far into my leg it went. Stop.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
There was a bruise on my butt. It went so deep.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
It did not go all the way through. Wow.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
That's where we get to in the story.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
So I am there laying in a heap on the ground with my thumb in my thigh and trying to get everything under control. And my children have run up to me in tears. Dad's on the ground. Of course. He's hurt. Oh, no. Dad's going to die. Dad's dead. And I'm like, everything's fine. Stop crying. Ah.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
I'm not crying. There was a lot of things going on. And luckily, my brother-in-law, being in the law enforcement, had been in a tourniquet training about two weeks prior to this. So he immediately comes John Rambo over, rips his belt off, throws it around my leg and start cinching up the tourniquet. I'm going to call 911, tells my father-in-law, keep pressure on it.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
I was 100% in shock. I don't remember feeling much pain. I was just trying to tell the kids to quit crying and be like, it's fine. It's no big deal.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
Of course. I'm a traveling salesman living on an expense account with a belt line to show it and he's coming to save the day. So yeah. Yeah. He requested to use an anonymous name since he isn't in law enforcement. And to reference our childhood BMX favorite movie was Crew Jones. Is that from Rad?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
Brother-in-law is calling 911. The ambulance shows up and they have to install a proper tourniquet when they arrive and get me suitable to move. And they get me on this portable, kind of like a wheelchair, kind of like a gurney.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
And then that was kind of their off-road thing. And right in that picture, I'm getting ready to transfer on to the gurney that goes in the ambulance. So they throw me in the ambulance. And that other picture is me from inside. I have the wherewithal to pull out my phone and think, well, I need to message my parents and tell them, hey, happy Thanksgiving.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
So EMT looks at me and she goes, how's the pain? And I was like, fine. And she's like, I'm going to give you some fentanyl. This is 2018. And all you hear about fentanyl is everybody's dying.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
Yeah. And I'm like, well, don't give me too much. Is this really necessary?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
Let's go. So we head off to the hospital and I'm coherent the whole time. And to the side, my brother-in-law loads us all in and calls my wife and says, hey, we're coming back from the bike park. I've got all the kids. John is on his way to the hospital. You and your sister should go and meet him there. And that's it. Yeah. My wife immediately goes white off to the hospital they go.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
I arrive at the hospital the same time she's arriving. And in her recollection, when I arrived, I was gray. She said I looked like wet cardboard. The doctor's like, so how much blood did you lose? And I was like, I failed to measure how many cups of blood I lost. And he looked at the other doctor and she said, yeah, the EMT said he's kind of a comedian.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
Their first concern is the femoral artery. And they're like, holy cow, we take this tourniquet off. Are we going to lose him? And, you know, so they send me off to CT scan. The guy said it couldn't have been more perfectly placed.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
So it went in, missed my femoral artery, missed my femur bone, basically just hit all meat.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
And then basically the guy comes back and said, we're in good shape. All we got to do is stitch you up, staple you up. We're good to go. Oh, and we get back to the house from what everybody tells me. I basically came in, said happy Thanksgiving to everybody, went on the couch and passed out, missed all of Thanksgiving dinner. Yeah. Wake up the next morning and hear, way to go.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
My wife kind of giving me the, hey, thanks for scaring me to death and sorry. And we're swearing off athletic activities from here on. Sure.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
Oh, wow. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. You really flipped the coin. So I'm thinking, I am going to take these handlebars and I'm going to have to mount them in some place and be like, you know, look at these. And my wife's like, I want nothing to do with this bike. I want this bike out of here. I don't want to ever see it again. On the way home, I list the bike for sale on Marketplace.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
And two days later, I get a message and the guy's like, that bike looks a lot like my bike. And he's identifying some of the key components of the bike. Come to find out this flipping bike is stolen.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
cursed from the jump, been inside my body. And I'm like, dude, I don't even want any money for it. Take it. And my brother-in-law, I called him right away when I got off the phone with this guy and gave him his bike back. And he's like, well, did you tell him what happened? And I was like, No, no, I let that part out. Sure, he doesn't really need to know that.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
It had been through a lot in the time when it was out of his possession.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
Do you have a moment for me to invite my better half to say hello? Of course. This is my wife, Lindsay.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Thanksgiving II
Long time listener. Happy to be here.
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Second Date Update: 3rd Times A Yawn
At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: 3rd Times A Yawn
At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.
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Also, we found some really old shit down there. We got a guy on the crew who used to do archaeology work or whatever.
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Burgrr Entries | CreepCast
Ich mag es, wenn du nicht sicher bist, dass du nichts wegschneidest.
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Burgrr Entries | CreepCast
Ich wollte... äh... den Publikum tot machen. Oh, ist das... Ist das das, was sie in den Kommentaren für den Ligotti gesagt haben? Oh mein Gott, ja.
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Und sie waren alle so, du machst es wirklich gut, ich bin stolz auf dich, nach dem Unfall. Ich hoffe, dass Hunters Familie es gut macht.
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Burgrr Entries | CreepCast
So he wakes up one day and there's just like a line on the side of his house. Hey, that's what I do. Are you fucking kidding me?
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Berries In The Window | Creep Cast
No, what did I ask you? Okay. Do you remember what you asked me?
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Oh, wow. That's like all curled up, like wrapped up. So wait, saying that the neighbor is in, the person that was like, hey, I'm leaving, can you check my mail?
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
So this is either he was, so yeah, he was either, it almost feels deliberate of like he knew it was going to be returned back.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
And I guess then why would you even send it? Or maybe I'm curious, well, I'm getting ahead of myself. Go ahead.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
I think I'm in the truck now. I can feel it moving. Must be in a warehouse. Pretty warm here. Still got plenty of food.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Oh, that's fun. Oh, I like that. That's the little end. That's awesome. Yeah, that's a fun little... I like... You know what this reminds me of a bit? It reminds me of the scary stories to tell in the dark.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Yeah. It prompts up an idea. You think you know where it is, and on the last second, on the last little line, it kind of subverts it at the last second of like, you know. I love the idea too of like... Because I'm guessing that the whole thing was he was like, I'm going to mail...
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Are we sure this is also a man? Have we... Are we, are we for sure?
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
i'm gonna like mail myself back to my house is what i'm wondering well the joke is like i'm gonna be a box like i'm gonna vlog going through all this state line and then eventually it's gonna get returned to sender so yeah it's gonna go back to his house my buddy or something well it's like and then it's like hey check my mail so i expect he's like the big surprise is that he's gonna pop out and be like hey yeah whatever with his camera yeah
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
But no, you grab the, you grab the thing, I guess. Cause two of the thing is he would be quiet. Cause he doesn't want you to know that it's him, but didn't the smell already. Didn't the smell already happen?
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Okay. So he was going to do like a little surprise thing, but didn't expect to fall and break his neck.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Yeah, and it's just like sitting in a garage or something, like a hot garage. Just baking in there. Just festering. Yeah, exactly. Baking in a cardboard UPS box. Do you know how funny that footage would be, though? A guy in there, it's just like, you know, like heavy breathing, like... Like a guy probably laughing like a little bit. And then just... And you're like... Yeah, exactly.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
That's all it would be. It'd be haunting, don't get me wrong, but at the same time, kind of funny.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
It was pretty good. It's the fun. Uh, I was wondering how it was going to loop around to with, uh, It's like, oh, he's a content guy. He does a lot of stupid stuff. I've seen him do stupid things like choke on cinnamon.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
And it was one of those things where you're probably like, oh, this is just describing like not an imbecile, but you're just like, it's this like kind of just kind of a strange person doing something for fame. Yeah. So you're wondering my mind immediately was like, oh, he killed somebody and mailed it to his house or. you know, whatever, which doesn't make a lot of sense.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
But the idea of him doing a prank like this is yeah. It makes no sense.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
So this next one is the pigeons around here. Aren't real. This is kind of an older one, 10 years ago. And it won the best title of 2015, uh, 2015 into December, 2016, uh, award, which it is. It's a great title. Very sad. You know, we talk about the titles and you know, how titles themselves are.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
pieces of art as well of like getting people hooked and your imagination also running like a title is just as important as the body is this the one that won uh this just says best title of 2015 so i'm guessing it won best okay title but i'm not sure i don't know about story i don't the reddit thing confuses me because sometimes i know it'll show an award but it's like oh no that's not the stories award that's an award the author got one time it's like
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
yeah the the the award the author got or sometimes too i think it just like puts that it puts that award on on the author's description so it appears on like maybe every one of their stories even though maybe it's just for one particular thing i don't know how the reddit award thing works like whatever but uh yeah this this story is called the pigeons around here aren't real once again by man and lysette we're only reading their stories today so let's uh let's dive into this one
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
You know what? You said man. I'm just going to say woman. I have no idea. I mean, it doesn't really matter to me. I don't give a fuck. But I like the titles of these stories. I'm very excited. Especially just the pigeon one. Birds freak me out. I just don't like birds. You know what I mean? I don't like the thousand mile stare that birds give. It's just... I don't know.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Welcome back to Creepcast! Today we are doing a grab bag of sorts from an author named Manon Lysette. And we wanted to read a body of this author's work primarily because I found a story called The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real. And I just thought that was a really fun title. And after looking at some of the works, they're a bit smaller.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Oh, well, that's what you get for ordering off eBay, I thought.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
These are the replicas you ordered? They don't feel remotely the same as the real deal.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
If you don't have eyelids, it's like, what's the point or whatever? Do birds have eyelids? It's a quick Google. I'm almost positive. That's going to be a, yeah, I think I don't know if all of them, I'm almost positive. Yes. Birds have eyelids. They have three eyelids. Okay. Well that makes it even worse. Yeah.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Just look on the sunny side of things, yeah?
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Well that's upper eyelid, lower eyelid, and then nicotitating, nicotitating membrane, a translucent third eyelid that moves horizontally across the eye from inner to outer. Oh my God. I do love a nice parrot, though. Or a toucan.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Watching it again? Not exactly. I kept going.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
There was two days left of footage on that card. And you went through it? Yeah.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Now, let me get you, before we move into a package marked return to sender, I had this aunt I lived with whenever I first moved to California. She lived in this retirement community in a town that I won't say. I mean, I just did not give specifics, but she did live in California.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
I'm guessing that that was the initial end. And then now they've, there's updates to it. Like there's more to the story. So we're not done yet, but no, that's really cool. I mean, I like the idea of, uh, it seems like the manufacturer of this, of these eggs.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
It's almost like it transforms things into another kind of vermin or something is what it feels like. Really putting emphasis on the vermin in the skies, you know, and that kind of thing and how if they could just, you know, have control of this thing, then everything would be okay. But it's like a hubris.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
You know, it's like it's very much to be in like, well, we can control nature. The thing that I'm curious about, I wonder if they get into more is like the thing, the place that they're manufacturing the eggs. Is that the thing that's like, are they the reason that the things are cracking up with the smoke?
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Or is it like the pigeons themselves or something with like, you know, Mother Nature being with these things? Is it like transforming even these eggs and producing something? You know what I mean?
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
california and she had a bird like a parrot in her house that would talk to her right and i always thought was weird as she clipped the wings so it couldn't fly away and i remember asking her i was like that's like that's the most fucking torturous thing i've ever heard in my life clipping a bird's wings and it's just like cool i gotta walk around that's what birds are known for you know what i mean
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
God help me. God help me. If this does not end with a pigeon man, I am going to be fucking livid.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
I want to see that motherfucker come back with his three eyelids and then being like, he's like, Clint, Clint. He's like, he's like, you know what I mean? Something weird like that. I said, go for it.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
So then she's like, oh, it's not a big deal. It happens. People do it all the time, you know, whatever. And she basically made it insinuate that she's just like, you know, I'm letting my animal do what it wants. It wants to hang out inside. So I'm doing that. And I'm like, okay, so that's cool. It wants to hang out inside. So I'm going to cripple it. That's a fun way to look at it.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Uh, no, I think that to your point, no, I don't think, I mean, don't even, don't even wrong in a movie sense or something. Don't even wrong. It's cool. Like, I mean, if I saw the thing, I'd be like, that thing rules. But in terms of like building, building a building tension and, uh, You wanted the pigeon. The horror of it. No, not even the pigeon.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
I think that if you're going this angle where you're not even confronting it, I think don't even look at it. I think imagine it. Hear the sounds. Kind of like in the last video we read of the blind woman. It's like hearing the thing and not really knowing what it looks like. is more horrifying than being like, oh, yeah, his face was flattened.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Don't get me wrong, it's cool, but I think to imagine something of hearing noises, like animal noises, it was a mixture of man and animal, I think would be a little more effective, in my opinion, at least for me. Because then, if anything, too, then when you go in and you see the eggs, you're like, what the fuck is this thing?
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
earlier with like uh do you like it if it just ended at him flying out of the bathroom window right and you never sure i mean you could i like the idea of him coming back like i like i like the idea of spicing it up or something yeah but i think you could be like i think it's like keeping it at the end before the updates it rules as well you know would you um with also we got one more update it's really short we do we do have one more update i was gonna say um would you feel differently if it did describe it but it was a pigeon man
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
No, I mean, if it was the Pigeon Man, he didn't even interact with it. It would be something like, it's almost like the fly or something where it's like, you need to interact with it. Like you need to like, it's like almost like deriving empathy from a creature. Even if the creature is like something that is, uh, trying to attack you or something.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
It's like being able to see your mutated friend and talk with it and like understand, you know, that was the best thing of the, the, the fly initially is the whole thing is it's like an analogy of somebody like, you know, or that you love is like dying of cancer and you have nothing.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Exactly. I think if you do something at that angle, even if you do some fun stuff where it's like a monster and it's trying to attack you, I think you can only go that far and you do a Pigeon Man. I think Pigeon Man rules. I'm going to go on my deathbed saying Pigeon Man rules. But I think it's more so it works more effectively if the horror comes from like...
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
uh, your, your friend, the human connection, like, you know, uh, the, the human relationship can never be the same. And it's this thing, you know, him being like, I'm not going back. It's somebody else to deal with. I think that's kind of a shitty character thing of like what you say. You're just never like, you don't give a fuck about this guy.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Like, I think that's like one thing where I'd be like, eh, I didn't really care for that, but we got one.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
So to deviate from that, because this is where it gets a little spicy is we don't even talk about the bird at all. One night, I come home. Once again, I remind you, she's in a retirement community. I come home. She's watching American Ninja Warrior in the living room. And her dog is licking her feet, like, obsessively. Like, whatever. And I was like, what a...
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
And now, they've spread. And that's the end of our story. You know, and I like the hubris of somebody being like, these pigeons are annoying. We're going to like, it's the hubris of man, something like that, that it could control nature.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
And then now it's something where it's basically, you've started a new black plague or you've started a new plague, you know? And I think that's, I think that's a lot of fun. I like that angle of it. I do think it's stronger if you don't do the updates at all and you just have your buddy at the end gets thrown out.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
And it's like, uh, if you're trying to have it be something short and to the, you know, punchy and you know, it's, it's concise and there's not a lot of fat on it. I think that, I think the, the, the story reads stronger that way, but all in all, I love, I think it's a really fun story.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
even though I still am confused by the eggs cracking open and like the, the air coming through, I don't think you need to divulge like, you know, you don't need to like harp on like, this is why it's doing this. But I think just a little something more to where it's almost like, Oh, I bought this.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
I bought these eggs from this dealer, which they did say, you know, it's the cheapest one, but it's like, is the dealer, like, is it a batch of something that's like curse just a little something to where it don't overly explain something, but at least give us just a bit more. even though I wasn't really worried, like I wasn't like my mind, I didn't really give a fuck.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
I just liked the weird body horror curse stuff. That's like my cup of tea, but just, you know, if I had a few criticisms that that's what it would be. And just also the thing of him, like abandoning his buddy at the end, I think like that's just kind of a, a shitty character arc. And to not even be punished for it too.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Because that's like a thing where it's like you turn your back on your friend and then usually having something to where that guy now has to reap what he sows I think is a more satisfying conclusion.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Yeah. I mean, we can, and I think just for the, the sake of threes here, I think it just, just to have it be a satisfying, we'll read one more and it's, but once again, by the same author and it's called, it all started with a hot air balloon.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
So that's why I'm going to dedicate this last one. It all started with a hot air balloon to the viewer, to the audience. And if it sucks, I'm sorry. Don't know what I'm supposed to tell you, but this one's for you.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
what are you doing she's like i'm just watching american ninja warrior and i mean that little motherfucker is going at those piggies like crazy her feet are glistening like it's just been like licking at it forever and i kind of sit down because i mean it's it's a porn it's like obscene it's like watching a car wreck and i was like you uh you just letting them kind of go at your feet she's like yeah i just let my animals do whatever they want and it was a weird parallel
CreepCast
The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
That's exactly. That's like the thing in like the Babadook. I would beat that kid with a fucking hammer. You know what I mean? Good Lord.
CreepCast
The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
where it was the same thing with the parrot, right? I'm like, I'm letting him do, this is what he wants. I'm like, so I clipped his wings. So my ass was thinking, I'm like, did this crazy, crazy old fucking woman lather her feet up in some kind of like, I don't know, coconut oil, honey, or fucking peanut butter. And she's just like, you want to lick my feet. You like it. You know what I mean?
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Mr. Phillips. Yeah, you know what's also scary? My fucking ball pin hammer. My DeWalt ball pin hammer.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Yeah, I almost thought that like if it was a UFO, someone got picked up while they're in the hot air balloon. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Did you hear what happened? The hot air balloon? Yeah, it was there. And I still managed to make it back here on time to feed the livestock. He lowered his head in shame.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Well, I guess that maybe they're trying to go out and find the Allspark that are hitting the well out back. But be sure and throw a tarp over it, Spencer.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Their tractor is, like, transforming into, like, a sentient robot that's getting, like, fucking murdered. Oh, God!
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
So anyways, the whole thing was like every afternoon she would sit there and she would, uh, watch American Ninja Warrior. And then that dog would come up and lick its liquor feet for like hours. Like, I mean like a long time. Are you done? Yeah, I guess that was just, I thought that might be that, that whenever I heard said parrot, that may or just remind me of that. So, sorry. Oh my God.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Looks like it's coming from the burn field. Probably just our tractor. Mr. Burns is a mean you replace the old thing for years now. Yes, the engine finally gave out.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Come on. Enough procrastinating. You've got work to do.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
I know. God damn, dude. Why don't you fucking give us some time? My word. Let him breathe.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Took care of the cattle and everything, ma'am. Good work, Spence. I'll have lunch ready in a minute.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Where exactly? In the storage loft. Can't miss it. I'll be back in a minute.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
So I figured we would read probably two or three of them and just get a feel for the author. Because a lot of these...
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Spencer, if you want to jack off in the loft of the bar, that's fine, but no food for you later. I'll have to have beaten his big old donkey dick. Well, see what I mean?
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Spence is out back spitting his hand. He calls it Amish lotion. All right. All I had was a bag of peanut M&M's and a Coca-Cola. I think he'll be just fine.
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titles of these stories are really cool i think we're going to start with a package marked return to cinder move into the pigeons around here aren't real and then end off with it all started with a hot air balloon i don't know i just i i think that the the titles are fun and also i love these little these little dives on uh authors that have like shorter bodies of work it's fun to kind of like get the just like quick glimpses of these stories i think uh
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
It's like any like not living organism because the corn is probably still there, but it's like anything that's like life or something like like by a lot like a animal. Anything with meat. Yeah, just gone.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Yeah. It all started with the hot air balloon. That was by far the funnest thing we read today. A lot of fun. I like, I liked everything we read, but I think that that one was just, I think that was the strongest.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Alright, a package marked Return to Cinder by Manon Lysette. Hopefully I said that name right. Lysette? Lysette? Don't know. Let's get into it.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
You just hope that you're having a hopeless thing of, yeah, you're just kind of waiting. It's like a, you introduce this time element to the, to the threat, which makes it feel even more, you know, crazy of a, it starts so high. And yeah, it's just, as the day has gone on, it's just progressively gotten lower.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Yeah. But they were all good. They were all good. All really fun, but I'm really glad we at least read the hot air balloon one as well. I'd like to put a period on this episode, which we are at that period, my friend. So thank you all so much for watching. If you haven't considered it, consider checking out the Spotify and the Apple podcast, giving us a nice rating there.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
It really does help us out, and we appreciate it. And as always, guys, we thank you so much for listening and supporting the show. It means the fucking world. We will catch you in the next scary episode.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Oh, so this is like a, this is like a, like lay lay meme moment, whatever. Or epic maintenance of the status quo, sheep.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
I like the idea too. I like the idea of this guy being like, cause you and me, I immediately thought that the YouTube person was like a kid, but now he's like, Hey, can you pick up my mail? I'm like, this is a 38 year old guy.
CreepCast
The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Right. Yeah. I mean, I expected like a 16 or 17 year old is what I was expecting.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Hey, come on, man. Hey, we're, we're, we're, it's a campfire story podcast.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
All right. I, you know what? We do a good service here and we bring, I don't have to, I don't have to defend us. No, go ahead.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
You know what? Nothing, dude. Not a damn thing.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
You know what? I thought it was friendly banter where you could, sure, you could read the story on your own, but this is reading it with pals, fun voices, fun interaction and bits. It's basically getting together and going camping with your buddies, except less, probably less homosexual stuff going on. Right.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
You always cross your legs whenever you bring up the word canoe. You always do. Okay, you know what?
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
I'm not trying to belittle or make light of the things you've done with your buddies in the past. Like, I'm not trying to, like, say it's gross. I'm just saying sometimes little scratches nift. Okay. Can I get back to the story? There was a famous quote that said, there was a famous quote, forgot who it was from, but it said, sometimes the cucumber tastes better pickled.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
That was a show. Like a Comedy Central show, I swear to God. Perhaps some kind of creepy one. No, no, no.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
So that's referring to the, like the guy sent the box and now it's brought back to his house. I would think. Right.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
I fucking punted it like a Nerf football.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Yeah, makes me think of one of those like true crime, true crime things where the cops go in and it's like, oh, there's a dead body in a freezer or something or like in a closet.
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The Pigeons Around Here Aren't Real | Creep Cast
Yes. I did not know that. So wait, sick. So it's like roadkill, but it has like a smells like this.
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Pancakes. Pancakes. Mr. Hancock's been talking to you, hasn't he? He's been calling you.
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Ticci Toby | Creep Cast
Off the top of your head, what's his birthday, then? It's like you're better than me because you were there when he was born.
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Ticci Toby | Creep Cast
Another day in the office. You know, I tell you, Connie, I wish one of these days God would kill me.
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Ticci Toby | Creep Cast
Where are you laughing at? Like the room's just illuminated by the TV and his son starts laughing and you can see the giant's shadow turn slowly. Just take out a lamp as he's turning around. What's got you all tore up? What the hell are you snickering back there for, boy?
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His first target is Cincinnati, Ohio. What? Oh, no. Wait a minute. Dr. Otto's first target is Cincinnati, Ohio. It all makes sense.
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I can't deny that one, you win. Alright, and you know, Iria gets us the Segway point, because that's disgusting! Damn, I had small talk. What's the topic? Disgusting shit? Oh, you got small talk, Wade? Do you have more? Well, I don't want to ruin the Segway. Wait, wasn't that your small talk? It was a minor thing, but I started reading again. What, like menus, or...? Like books. Adult books? !
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Es ist lustig, dass du das sagst, weil ich weiß nicht, ob es klappt.
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Nein, ich habe die Serie nie beendet. Es war meine Lieblingsserie als Kind. Ich habe sie nie beendet und ich wollte zurückgehen und alles wieder lesen. Redwall. Animorphs. Oh.
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I wouldn't call them adult books. I would say those are like teenage fiction. I mean, even as a like third, fourth grader, I was able to read it pretty easily. They're pretty short books, but there's like 64 of them. There's 54 in the main series and like 9 or 10 spin-offs or something. Damn. Yeah, I started reading the Animorphs series all over again. Because I never finished it as a kid.
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I absolutely loved it. I used to be really excited whenever I would go to the bookstore with my mom. And she would be like, here, I can get a book. And I would get the new Animorphs book. Because they started coming out, I think, in 1996. I don't remember how often they came out. But there's a lot of them. And I always loved them growing up. So I started reading them again.
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And they're a lot simpler, like reading them now, compared to some other novels you may read. It's like, they're written very simply. But they're still interesting. The story is interesting. The universe is interesting.
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Es gibt nichts falsch damit, Bücher mit einer jüngeren Zielgruppe zu vertreten. Ich werde versuchen, Molly wirklich verrückt zu machen, weil sie viele Bücher im Jahr liest. Und am Ende des Jahres wird sie sagen, ich habe 50 Bücher gelesen dieses Jahr, und sie wird sie aufzeigen. Ich werde 64 90-Page-Bücher lesen, die große Funktionen haben. Molly, ich habe 64 Bücher dieses Jahr gelesen.
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My name is Jake. I can't tell you my last name. Animorphs.
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Can we all just talk about how still the best scene in Jumanji is whenever the cart's heading toward the hunter and he screams? That scream is still the best moment in all of Jumanji. I forgot about that, but very distinct in my mind. I will never forget that scream. Great movie, but man, that scream is just... Well, I'm writing down things because I need to keep track of points.
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A bit of trivia, the first morph by one of the protagonists in the book is Tobias turning into a cat. If that ever comes up on a trivia show, which it won't, how do you know?
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Tobias ist bekannt für seinen roten Hauch. Du würdest also nicht denken, dass er als Katze die erste Transformation wäre. Ich hätte das nie gedacht. Ich wusste nicht, dass sie sich ändern könnten. Wenn du in der Morph für mehr als zwei Stunden bleibst, bist du als dieses Tier verletzt. Ungefährlich. Entschuldigung, ich weiß, dass wir etwas Schreckliches gemacht haben. Anyway, IREA. Go, Mark!
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IREA. Alright, so there was a post on Reddit. As with much content on the internet, that's where we turn to for all of our entertainment needs. Even though I think that Reddit is probably a place where most stories are made up and nothing matters. But anyway, so is this podcast. So, we're gonna steal this. Because someone was asking if I can pull up the exact... I... I closed the... I closed the...
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anyway asking do you have any weird hygiene habits for me and my roommates we have separate slippers that we decided to only wear in the bathroom as we don't want to be treading the bathroom floor germs through the house now is that weird or is that understandable so how does this work they leave the slippers in the bathroom like by the door they walk in immediately step into them
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Okay, also das ist normal. Ja, das ist ziemlich normal. Das ist gut, akzeptabel.
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It's one of those things where I would like it on the surface be like, and then I think about it like, actually, it's kind of not a bad idea. So I would also, if we're only going normal or weird, I would go more toward normal. Let's say it's acceptable or excessive. Acceptable or unacceptable. Das ist auch akzeptabel für mich. Das ist akzeptabel. Das ist perfekt akzeptabel.
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Man kann nicht mehr mit ihnen Freunde sein. Ja, es fühlt sich an, als würden wir einander Eierhöhlen auslösen und ich würde sagen, ich weiß nicht, was das ist, aber hier sind ein paar Kühlschritte, wo du, wenn du in den Kühlschrank gehst, sagst, okay, was auch immer, das ist okay. Katzen machen das. Warum können nicht Leute einander Eierhöhlen auslösen?
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Henry hat dieses wirklich schreckliche, schreckliche Habit, wo er sein Ohr schrecken wird, wie nur real langsam mit seinem Rückfuss, wie in dem Ohr und er sagt immer, oh, wenn er es macht, wie nur wie ein Schlagschuss und dann immer und wir schauen es und warten darauf, wie er es macht, dann schlägt er seinen Fuß. Every time. Lexi does that too.
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I don't want you. I want you to stop talking. What do they do if they taste a problem in the poo?
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Alright, fair enough. Okay, so I got a list here from this thread of things that people do and we're gonna determine what is and is not acceptable as a burden to our daily lives. Acceptable or excessive, right? Okay. Eine Person sagt, ich werde nicht auf meinem Bett in Kleidung schlafen, die ich außerhalb des Hauses geworfen habe.
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Und wenn ich in den Bett komme mit Schuhen an, werde ich neue Schuhe anziehen, wenn ich sie geworfen habe, die um die Haustür gehen. Okay, also es gibt hier viele Lagen, die seltsam sind. Ich fühle mich, dass es ein paar verschiedene Dinge gibt. Let's pick it apart a little bit. Let's just focus on the first half. Laying on bed in clothes that I've worn outside.
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I'll go first on that since Bob went last time. I'll say that's acceptable. There are definitely times where you go someplace and you come home and you're like, I need to wash my hands right away. I don't know what I just said. If I was riding a public bus or if I was at a restaurant, you never know. Your bed's your safe place.
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I like to shower before I get into bed because I have to be clean, getting into clean sheets. So laying on a bed with all your dirty clothes that on the outside have touched who knows what, acceptable. Don't put that on your bed. I get that. I am that. I like that.
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Die Veränderung der Kleidung oder nicht in deinem Bett zu liegen mit Kleidung, die du draußen geworfen hast, ist perfekt akzeptabel.
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Yeah, perfectly acceptable. But the socks thing is a little excessive. So we're going to put that in the excessive category. A little excessive.
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I wouldn't care enough to do it. I would accept that someone does it, so I'd say acceptable, but that one's more borderline.
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Vielleicht ist es echt müde oder so und die Tiere kommen rein und lassen die Tracks auf der Hauptfläche.
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Ich verstehe es, aber es ist mir zu exzessiv, glaube ich. Beking of modern privilege here. This person comes home, changes into the jammies that they wore in the morning before they left the house. Die Jammies, die sie kochen mit, sind die gleichen Jammies, die sie die Nacht vorher geworfen haben.
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I mean, it could be, but I don't get to make that promise. It won't be. See, there you go. So the reason I'm writing things down is because I keep track of the points. I'm the judge of what these two goofs are going to be doing. I need to determine who's going to be the next judge of us new goofs, of which I will be one in the next episode. Me, pick me, I deserve it. That's a good impression.
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So they're showering in the evening. I don't know. Two showers a day is another topic. Do not get into that just now. But they shower in the evening after cooking because they don't like smelling like cooking when I'm freshly showered. Bob, is this excessive?
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Okay, alright, that's good points. Maybe I misunderstood. I thought it was one pair of pajamas. So, we start at the night. You shower. Put on a pair of pajamas, go to bed, wake up, change for work or whatever, go out, come back, put on last night's pajamas, cook, shower, new pair. So each day you have one pair of pajamas, one pair of clothes.
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Ja, wenn du dir das vorstellst, wie manche Leute sagen, dass Sonntag der Anfang der Woche ist, manche Leute sagen Montag. Das ist der Anfang ihres neuen Tages, der nach dem Schlafen nach dem Abendessen stattfindet. Das ist ihr neuer Zyklus. Ich schlafe nicht in demselben Shirt zwei Nachts in der Woche. Wenn ich reise, werde ich das tun, also muss ich nicht so viele Dinge packen.
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Aber ich ändere mein Schlafsack und Unterhaut. Aber ich trage das gleiche Paar Basketballschutz für vier oder fünf Tage, weil was auch immer. Unterhaut und T-Shirt verändere ich jeden Abend. Das ist nicht so anders für mich als für mich. Es schafft eine gute Anzahl von Waschmaschinen, aber ich finde es nicht super exzessiv oder verrückt.
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Das seltsame für mich ist, nach Hause zu kommen, etwas zu kochen und dann sofort wieder zu verändern. Es ist wie, warum nicht nur in dem Outfit kochen, in dem du warst, dann komfortabler werden. Weil sie nicht riechen wie kochen, wenn ich frisch geschaut habe. Nein, das habe ich.
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Aber warum nicht nur das Outfit tragen, das du für den Tag trinkst, während du kochst und dann schauern und die Klamotten wechseln? Das ist eine tolle Frage. Ja, warum tragen sie nicht nur die Klamotten, die sie hatten? Warum hast du letzte Nacht die Klamotten, um zu kochen?
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Okay, das ist fair, wenn es eine Schuhe und eine Schuhe oder etwas ist.
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Es ist wahrscheinlich super unkomfortabel, in deiner Schuhe zu kochen.
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But then why... I get that they don't want to smell like they're cooking, but how much... What are they cooking that would infuse into their jammies, that they couldn't come home from work, shower, change into new jammies, and then cook? How sloppily are they cooking? Maybe there's a lot of grilling or oil, like frying oil or something? I don't know.
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Also, mein initiales Beurteilung war exzessiv. Ich bewege mich auf akzeptabel. Schlafen in einem anderen Outfit ist ein bisschen mehr Kleidung, aber ich verstehe es. Du benutzt letzte Nacht, um aus deiner Schuhe oder was auch immer zu kochen, damit du dir komfortabler werden kannst und dein Ding nicht schmutzig wird.
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Viele meiner Schlafschuhe sind Basketballschuhe. Ich liebe Basketballschuhe. Ich trage sie immer. Sie sind die besten. Meine T-Shirts sind alle alte Schuhe, die ich während des Tages trage. Die sind entweder etwas zerstört oder verkleidet oder verkleidet oder was auch immer. Es ist wie, naja, das ist jetzt eine Schlafschuhe. Meine täglichen Kleidung werden meine Schlafschuhe in der Zeit.
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I agree with Bob in that this is slightly excessive. Just slightly. It's real close because circumstantial to what you're cooking and what you're doing in your life is. But this is kind of applying to everyday life for everyone out there. I'm going to say it's just excessive for the average person out there. Just enough. For the average person, I guess I'd agree, man. Yeah. Das war's für heute.
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Bis zum nächsten Mal. I actually do have an opinion about this. I don't have an opinion about the actual using them and how they work. I don't know anything personally about that. For reasons that are probably obvious.
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I shat myself. I shat myself. It's all over my tail. Oil!
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Did you know that the lion's costume in that movie was actual lion pelts? That seems necessary. Well, it was the 30s or 40s or whatever it was.
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Nun kann ich nicht mit dir unterscheiden, weil es mich schlecht sieht. Aber ich würde auch nicht mit dir unterscheiden, weil ich es stimme.
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Es ist nie etwas. Nein, aber ich wurde von meiner Mutter und meiner Großmutter geboren. Ich wurde meistens von Frauen geboren. Also eine Menge von Dingen, mit denen Frauen umgehen. Ich war einfach so rum. Nicht, dass meine Großmutter wirklich durch Perioden ging, aber ich hatte eine Schwester, meine Mutter, und so weiter und so fort.
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Ich habe mich einfach so gewohnt, was die Frauen tun mussten, zu tun, und es war egal, weil ich einfach so rum war. What did I miss? Bob made some really good points, but not quite as good as mine. Okay, alright. And that's a point for Wade. Wade didn't make any points. He's lying.
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Unbelievable. Aber ja, Bob, äh, Mark, wenn du nicht kurz aufhören würdest. Ja, Bob, ich habe alles, was du gesagt hast. Nur besser. Habe es. Mann, es gibt so viele furchtbare Verhandlungen. Ich wundere, wann das Licht schlägt. Es gibt keine Verhandlungen. Bob hat fast die ganze Zeit gesprochen, bis du weg warst. Wir haben keine Verhandlungen gemacht.
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Warte, sagst du, dass du diesen Punkt nicht verdienst? Nein, ich glaube definitiv, weil du es geschrieben hast. Und deshalb ist es Teil des geschriebenen Punkt-Systems. Das ist wahr. Ich habe es geschrieben. You can't unwrite things. Okay, well, that is what it is. I'll eat my hat if that comes back to bite me. It probably will. We got another one here.
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I wash my glasses twice a day with hot water and dish soap. Glasses or drinks glasses? Glasses, eyeglasses, eyeglasses. Wasch them twice a day with dish soap. Thought of just wiping the lenses grosses me out. To them, a shocking number of people don't wash their whole entire glasses.
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Exzessive. Ich wasche meine Gläser, meine ganzen Gläser einmal in der Zeit, nicht so oft. Also fliegst du mit Exzessive raus? Ich denke, das ist Exzessive. Ich lege meine Linsen mit einem Wärmeputzen, damit ich sehen kann. Und wenn meine Gläser zu dem Punkt kommen, wo sie dreckig fühlen, gebe ich ihnen eine volle Waschung.
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Leider wurde der Tidman-Mann von den Kanten, die er auf die Arme geschnitten hat, in Schrecken geschnitten.
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Ich denke auch, es hängt davon ab, welchen Brand der Gläser du besitzt, weil manchmal nur die Waschung, wenn du sie nicht richtig probierst, sie können sie zerstören, die kleinen Schrauben zerstören und es wirklich schrecklich machen. Und es ist wahrscheinlich eine schreckliche Idee. Ja. Besonders, wenn du es nicht richtig ausdrehen kannst. Ich werde das wiederholen.
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Ich glaube, ich weiß nicht, was sie mit ihren Gläser tun. Wenn du Gläser 24-7 trägst und du bist draußen, in der Mütze oder so, oder du weißt, dass du sie immer mehr öffnest. Ich glaube, du musst sie immer mehr öffnen. Für mich, ich trage Kontakte, also meine Gläser trage ich nur nachts oder wenn ich mich entspann. Deshalb fühle ich mich nicht so oft so dreckig.
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Und ich fühle mich, wenn du die Teile, die an deinen Ohren sind, oder deine Nase-Pads und die Linsen einmal in der Zeit, das ist okay. Und jedes Mal, wenn ich einfach sage, weißt du was, ich nehme sie unter das Wasser, gebe sie einen Rinsen, lege sie aus, was auch immer. Aber nicht so oft und besonders nicht zweimal am Tag. Das ist für mich obszenitiv exzessiv.
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Given, dass Bob Gläser täglich trägt, und wenn sie dieses Anil über das Reinigen sind, dann würde ich sagen, dass sie eine Mikrofibre benutzen würden. Sie benutzen wahrscheinlich eine neue Mikrofibre bei jedem Waschen. But, given that I have perfect vision, I can't even relate to the concept of wearing glasses.
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Das ist wahr. Sehr wahr. Das bedeutet, Toto wurde aus Hühnern gemacht?
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I have to defer that glasses wearers are so inconvenient that this is a necessity, so I'm going to go with Bob. I wear glasses. You don't wear glasses. Where are they? Pick them up, put them in front of the camera. Right now. Willst du vielleicht zwei Reisen nach oben gehen, um meine Gläser zu bekommen? Er hat sie nicht. Okay, Gläser.
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Ich habe Sonnenblätter auf dem Hauptflur. Gläser, Gläser auf dem Hauptflur. Oh, er hat nicht mal Sonnenblätter neben ihm. Ah, ich sehe, wie es ist.
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I don't have sunglasses in front of me either. They're so perfect in my eyes or I could stare into the sun all day. But, you know. He even said he doesn't do it. And he started off by saying, dish soap, what a terrible idea.
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He's a glasses slob. His slovenly glasses hygiene does not impact the fact that this is not excessive. It's a terrible idea.
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And you probably wipe those multiple times a day, I bet.
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Getting the screws in the joints of your glasses wet that often? This person needs a new pair of glasses every three months with what they're doing. There's no way.
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That's why I won. What the fuck? I'm living in crazy town. He's using my arguments against me, but they don't work against me. Yet it works.
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Was ist das nächste? Also, das nächste hier, als wir von hier weitergehen, ist, dass es viele Dinge zeigt, die viele von diesen Kommentaren machen. Es sollte ein blöderer sein, damit ich feststehen kann. Es gibt keinen. Sie sagen, ich finde es nicht seltsam, aber ich glaube, viele Amerikaner finden es seltsam, ein Bidet zu benutzen. Ich fühle mich nicht sauber, ohne dass ich einen benutze.
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Whenever I hear, and this is the second part, which we'll tackle separately. Whenever I hear about people showering and scrubbing between their butt cheeks until there is no more brown on the wash rag. What? I just wonder, how are you not getting all that off at the toilet? So yeah, there's two separate things here that are... Yeah, we'll tackle the second one separately, I think.
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We're gonna need like six other dogs. Let's get going here.
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Ich weiß nicht, wie ich mich über öffentliche Wasserhäuser fühlen würde, wenn ich meinen Arsch aufschiebe.
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Es gibt öffentliche Beds in der meisten Nordeuropäischen Region, wie Italien, Spanien und Frankreich. Aber das ist fast der beste Ort, wo sie öffentlich zugänglich sind.
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Ich habe nie einen benutzt, außer, dass Marks Kontaktlenses in ihnen auftreten. That is the only time I've ever used a bidet watching us press the button. I think it was Leo who pressed the button and just watched it spray the mirror and just cover all every toilet tree mark owned covered in bidet water. Ah, yes. Ah, good times. Good times. That was the funniest fucking shit.
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Es war AirBnB-Bidet-Wasser. Es war hohe Druck. Das ging über den Kühlschrank. Oder sie waren so, schau dir das an und drückten den Knopf und nur dieser Stream ging perfekt über den Kühlschrank, schlug in das Fenster. Jede Partie des Kühlschranks, die irgendwas hatte, die Mark gekauft hat, war dort, wo das Wasser geschossen hat. I thought you were making a joke at first.
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You dunked by and then I forgot. Oh yeah, that happened.
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Whenever I hear about people showering and scrubbing between their butt cheeks until there's no more brown on the wash rag, I just wonder, how are you not all getting that off at the toilet? So there's every part of that sentence has something interesting. So let me start with the first real quick. I agree with Bob. I've not used a bidet, but I think bidets are fine.
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I think people like them that have them. I think whatever. The second one. Was in der Hölle passiert während des Wipingsprozesses? Oder der Bidet-Prozess, in dem es nur verdammt viele Farben zwischen deinen Beinen gibt, wenn du schälen gehst.
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Die Anzahl von Schäfen und Problemen und Schmerzen, die es so aussehen würde, dass es verdammt viele Farben zwischen deinen Beinen gibt, macht mich ein bisschen witzig. Wenn ich schaue, benutze ich keine Waschmaschine zwischen meinen Beinen. Ich schäle einfach Wasser, lege es raus, was auch immer. Und ich denke nicht, dass ich jemals gesagt habe,
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Wow, es ist so, als wäre ich bei der Schokoladenfabrik! Meine Finger sind gedrängt! Es ist Soap und es ist okay, du cleanst dich einfach und du... was auch immer! Was für eine verdammte Scheiße passiert hier?! Wir benutzen einen Waschgerät, wir benutzen eine Spange, wir benutzen eine dieser kleinen fluffigen Sachen, um uns zu cleanen. Was auch immer.
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Du cleanst sie, du waschst sie, dann cleanst du das Ding, ich verstehe das. Warum gibt es so exzessive Anzahl von Braun? WIPE!
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I'm just, I'm disturbed by the amount, I might have more to say, I'm just still shocked by the brown.
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That's what I'm saying, man. There should not be shit between the cheeks.
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Sorry, speak up. The shit in my ass wouldn't let it hear you.
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No, you don't want that. Yeah, the weird part about this is not so much what they're saying. It's the context that they're trying to frame around their conversation. By the way, I have scratches all over my arm. This is from me cutting down trees. I didn't know how to grab them properly. And I was wearing short sleeves. Don't do that when you're cutting down trees.
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Your scope didn't help you aim better? I didn't put a scope on my chainsaw just yet. I got that on order. It's coming in. There's no reason this man should have, or this woman, whoever they are, there's no reason this person should have caked on shit in between their ass cheeks in the shower.
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Well, it's not this person, but I hate the, whenever I hear about people showering, as if this is the conversation, like, I just can't, they're walking infomercial people, I can't get the poop out of my butt when I'm showering. There's gotta be a better way! I use the ShamWow! Look at the brown stains! What you should be using...
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Anyway, yeah, so something's wrong with what's going on in this person's life, I think.
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You'd also, I don't know, smell shit every time you sat down or did anything.
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Wir sind fast fertig mit dem Video, aber wir werden ein paar Dinge durchgehen, weil ich denke, dass die Leute diese Regeln in ihrem Leben brauchen. Es werden nicht wirklich zu viele Punkte vorhanden sein. Ich werde das kurz durchgehen. Ich möchte einige gute Erklärungen machen. Was ist die ideale Anzahl von Schauern? Es könnte mehr als einmal pro Tag sein. Es könnte jeden anderen Tag sein.
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Wie oft sollte man schauern? Was ist die ideale Anzahl? Für mich schauere ich jeden anderen Tag, weil ich sehr dreckige Haut habe. Und wenn ich täglich schaue, wird es schlimmer. Du solltest einen Lotion in deinem Körper waschen. Ich benutze das und ich habe eigentlich Dermatologen-Lotion, aber für irgendeinen Grund macht mir schlafen jeden Tag meine dreckige Haut viel schlimmer.
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Schlafen jeden anderen Tag funktioniert für mich. Schlafen täglich. Ich denke, Leute, die wirklich dreckige Haut haben, schlafen täglich ist gut. Das macht Sinn. Und ich denke, wenn ich keine dreckige Haut hätte, würde ich wahrscheinlich nur einmal am Tag schlafen. Mehr als einmal am Tag war nur, wenn ich Sport mache und ich wirklich schmerzhaft und dreckig werde.
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Ich weiß nicht, ich fühle mich mehr als einmal am Tag ohne bestimmte Verhältnisse ein bisschen zu viel.
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Every other day might be up for contention, if some people really want to argue for that. That's a lot. Probably the end range would be like every two weeks. Or some people might push it to a month, I don't know.
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Ich denke, jede Woche oder zwei. Wenn du einen Monat auf den gleichen Blättern gehst, wird das ein bisschen viel, aber jede Woche oder zwei. Ich schaue auch vor dem Schlafen, also du bist immer noch, was auch immer, während der Nacht, also es muss immer noch sauber sein.
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Aber ich fühle mich mehr sauber, wenn ich zuhause gehe, als wenn ich an einem anderen Punkt während des Tages bin, weil ich ein Nachtschauer bin. Das ist ein guter Punkt. Es diktiert darauf, wann du schaust, also wenn du direkt vor dem Schlafen schaust.
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Hier ist etwas, was mein Leben verändert hat, in Bezug auf automatische Kleidungsmaschinen. Keine Angst vor einem kleinen Löffel. Es ist völlig okay, einen halben vollen Backofen zu haben und das zu tun, weil es weniger ein Bedürfnis ist, sie zu öffnen. Und der psychologische Bedürfnis, diese Dinge zu füllen und zu öffnen, ist der größte Schwachsinn für mich, sie regelmäßig zu machen.
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Also, wenn du nur ein paar Backofen hast, steck sie in den Backofen, mach einen schnellen, es gibt einen schnellen Zyklus, mach einen schnellen. Don't get tabs, get powder or liquid so you can put just a little bit in there because you only got a few dishes in there. Then you run it on your quick cycle and you're fine. Same with laundry. It works the same way.
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You don't need to do those pods because kids will eat them and you don't need that in your life. They'll break into your house and they'll eat your Tide Pods. They're gonna do it. It still happens. If you're doing a small load of dishes, you can also put your poop towel and your glasses in there at the same time and just do it all at once.
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You can change your sheets every week if you're showering not in the evening. You can go up to two to three weeks if you're showering in the evening so that you're clean going into bed. That's the dictation. Ich denke, täglich ist ideal. Ich denke, biweekly ist realistischer als das, was mit uns passiert.
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Okay, Schlafen, Schlafen. Das ist eigentlich ein noveles Konzept für viele Leute. Wie oft solltest du deine Schlaftasche verändern?
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Hey, whatever's all stiff and rock hard you're trying to try.
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It's like the vampire guy who takes his kid's blood, except for it's you taking your own recycled younger you skin cells.
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Abhängig davon, bin ich entweder ein neuer Stuhl für jeden Schauer oder für jeden 2-3 Topf. Was? Ich werde nicht den gleichen Stuhl für mehr als 2-3 Schuhe benutzen. Warum? Aber ich benutze auch diesen Stuhl, nachdem ich meinen Gesicht wasche. Mein letzter Nachtschau-Stuhl könnte der sein, den ich benutze, um meinen Gesicht zu waschen.
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Oder nachdem ich meine Zähne rüttel, könnte ich das benutzen, anstatt meinen Handtuch.
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Yeah, but after I wipe my face or wipe toothpaste on it, I don't want to use it to dry. So then it's like, okay, now I need a new towel to dry the next time I shower. So it really depends on what all I'm using it for in between. I'm more towards Bob on this one because, simply because... 15 to 27 years? Not that far, not that far. Oh, okay, alright.
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But just because I also am of the mind that if you are stepping out of the shower, you are as clean as you are going to be. If you did your job right in the shower, all you're doing is getting the water, the basically filtered spring water that's emanating off your body. Filtered spring water. If you did your job right in the shower.
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So, the more I learned about my Korean side, the more I learned that Koreans are an obsessively cleanly people in some regards. My family was over before Christmas. They were over. Let me tell you, that laundry machine was running 24-7. God! If they went out and just, they would throw in the clothes that they had worn that day and they changed into the jammies at night after showering.
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That shower also was running 24-7. And then they would, right before they all left, the entire night, that laundry machine was running and the buzzer was on loud because they would get up in the middle of the night when the buzzer went off to change it out and put new clothes in there. Because they needed to, they cleaned every single clothes that they had in their entire suitcase.
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Even if it wasn't worn. Even if it had just been washed. Then that might have been my mother. Because my mother loves doing the laundry and making sure it's really clean. They also don't take their shoes from outside inside. Fastidiously cleanly people. For the most part.
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Ich lasse es hier so. Leute, verwendet nicht die komfortablen Maschinen, die genug für euch funktionieren. Die wichtigsten sind die Waschmaschine und die Lädenmaschine. Schnapp sie in die Maschine. Du musst nicht so viel aus deinen Plätzen schnappen, wie du denkst. Schnapp einfach den Abstand in den Müll oder die Anlage.
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Ich muss. Ich muss meine Plätze so gut wie möglich schnuppern. Du musst nicht. No, it's not a dishwasher thing. It's a me thing.
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Ich erinnere mich, als ich ein Kind war, dass die Veranstaltungen in meinem Kopf verbrannt wurden, wenn jemand sagt, schau dir diese verdammte Soap an. Sie zeigen den CG in, sie stellen eine Kamera in den Waschmaschine und du siehst, dass es verdammte Lasagneplatte ist. Ja. Oh, es ist perfekt klar. Ich weiß, dass es das in meinem Kopf tut.
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Aber ich habe auch Probleme, es komplett dreckig in dort zu legen. Ich gehe so, das ist nicht richtig. Es ist eine Maschine, die geschehen soll. Ich kann es nicht. Ich kann keine dünnen Plätzchen in einem Backofen nehmen, Mann. Es muss sein. Ich würde lieber alle meine Gerichte handwaschen, als etwas Dreckiges in den Backofen zu legen. Du musst es übernehmen. Du musst es. Du musst es.
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No, yeah, I am 100% a hypocrite. I'm right there with you, Mark. The faucet is running the entire time I'm loading dishes.
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It's on hot. I make mac and cheese and that pot is shiny clean before I put it in the dish. I cannot even leave the cheese in there. I can't. I know, I always soak pans before I put it in the dishwasher. I soak them for hours and I'm like, God, the dishwasher doesn't soak them.
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We need to go away from enzymatic soaps. We need to go back to the good old days where we had to clean our dishes before we put them in the dishwasher.
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Now they're just making slime out of it. Alright, we're done. Can you read my points first? So, Bob. Okay. You lost a point. New Jumanji fan. Can't abide by that. I stand by it. You did get a bonus point because this was your idea. So, that is good. You got a car startgasm point, because the noise you made when you started your frozen car. Oh, this is your superpower. Charger-seeking missile.
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You really know where your chargers are. I-Area, which was the segue point. That was funny. Oh, I gave you a separate segue point that says plus segue.
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I think I meant to do a Segway Point and I somehow wrote Segway Point afterwards. But it's written down and there's a plus. You know what? Give him the two. It was funny. Alright, okay, alright. It was funny. I laughed. I told you to give him the point and then it was also a Segway. I would want two points for that. Therefore, you should give him.
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I got you Aromatic King, Glasses Slob, the meat of the matter for getting the context of something, the real question, and then soften up your towel that...
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I'm all for like steaming your towel, man, but not the 20-year-old one that hasn't been washed.
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Wait, you got a point for like an old Jumanji, a great reference with the scream. That scream is so good, dude. That scream is... You got a handsome point. You're looking particularly good today. Must be your bi-daily showers. You got a supervision point for having the same bacteria vision that I do. You got anamorphs for kids. For adults, too. Anamorphs for kids. You got licking ear holes.
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You got a good point point for having a good point. You got a point for, look, Ma, I'm at the chocolate factory.
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I don't want that one! Wade had so many gross ones today. Eww. That was a close match with the negative point. Bob, you had plus nine minus one. That puts you at eight. And that puts Wade at seven. The bonus segue point only prevented a tie round. Oh, damn it, we could have been marked with a solo episode. So it would have been a wheel, which we are up at 12% for a reminder for the one-man show.
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I'm sorry, I let us down. Hooray. Someday that will be tripped, and it almost was today. That's my bad, everyone. But Bob, congratulations! Wade, you saved us. Saved me from the one-man show. I saved Bob and I from the real work, having to write it. I know, who wants to write stuff? Well, that's what ChatGPT is for, am I right, everybody? Everyone loves ChatGPT.
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Loser. Hey, Loser hier. Aber Loser beginnt mit einem W, Watcher. Und deshalb sind wir zusammen. Ich bin Team Watcher. Wade, Loser, beide beginnen mit W für Gewinne. Weil wir die echten Gewinner sind. I thought it was a great episode. I thought Bob Mark had a good idea. And I thought that being the only one not on the end of the idea, I had an advantage. Mark stepped away. I gave myself a point.
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Ich finde es so klein, weil in Minnesota, mit Windschutz zumindest, kommen sie manchmal in die negativen 40er. Also, als ich bei den United Dairy Farmers arbeitete, haben wir Eis-Cream gemacht, richtig? Eis-Cream ist eine große Sache bei UDF in Cincinnati. Und unser Kühlschrank war minus 25 Grad. Das ist, wo wir alle Eisbeeren gehalten haben, minus 25 Grad im Kühlschrank.
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There's An Easter Egg At 43:51
Really thought I put myself in the driver's seat. And I did. Unfortunately the driver's seat was right between some shit-caked buttcheeks and we crashed. But I'm glad you were here to watch it. Watchers. Loser speech out. I have run out of recycled paper.
Distractible
There's An Easter Egg At 43:51
I'm gonna need to actually get some for the next time I win, which will inevitably be the episode after Bob's, for reasons that are so obvious we can't even say why. Thank you everybody so much for listening. Remember your obligations and hope you enjoyed the Easter egg at that time stamp. That really changed your existence. And also... No merch!
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There's An Easter Egg At 43:51
ever ever question mark the new distractible sniper knife we could start a distractible weapons division you know we could just life is ours to choose we could make a very hard pivot and just start manufacturing tony stark level weapons i was gonna say can we be like the stark industries of podcasts we'd probably be like hammer tech you know I don't wanna be HammerTech.
Distractible
There's An Easter Egg At 43:51
Right before everything goes to shit. That's real cool. That's true, that's true. And he still made money. He still sold weapons. So long as we get the American government on our side and the military-industrial complex, I think we'll be okay. Thank you everybody so much for listening and or watching. Be sure to subscribe or follow for more podcasts. Podcast-Stuff.
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There's An Easter Egg At 43:51
And then when we take over the world, if you didn't follow or subscribe to us, we'll remember. I won't. Podcast out.
Distractible
There's An Easter Egg At 43:51
Und in Minnesota wird es viel kälter als das, besonders mit Windschutz, was wild ist. Also, ich weiß nicht, was sie da tun, um ihre inneren Autos aus dem Kühlschrank zu halten.
Distractible
There's An Easter Egg At 43:51
Ich weiß nicht, ob sie das da machen. Ich habe es noch nie gehört, dass sie darüber reden.
Distractible
There's An Easter Egg At 43:51
I don't know what they do in Minnesota, but maybe. You know, one of the benefits of an electric vehicle is that it has a big old massive battery, right? So you can run a heater constantly-ish, I guess, maybe. I'm not 100% sure how long you can do it. Are you saying you have the technology to freeze lightning bolts? No, I don't think you're saying that at all. What the fuck is wrong with you, man?
Distractible
There's An Easter Egg At 43:51
Okay, I was reading between the lines. Ha! Ha! He's just thinking outside the box, you know? I was just pretty sure it's what you were getting at. Okay, well, no. It wasn't what I was getting at. But hey, you know, some people say that electric vehicles are bad in different weathers, but I'm saying they might be better in certain circumstances. You know? Because they stay...
Distractible
There's An Easter Egg At 43:51
You know, my car hasn't had any issues with freezing. I don't think it counts, but... I'm taking away a point. I'm not gonna take away a point. I'm not gonna do that. That would be petty of me to do that, Wade. I'm not doing that. Wow, it's a new you in 2025. It is. It is a new me.
Distractible
There's An Easter Egg At 43:51
Du hast dich verändert, Mann. Ich habe mich verändert. Ah, anyway. Wait, I can't make any judgments upon you. Thank you. I'm gonna give you a handsome point. Well, I think that's well deserved. It's not well deserved. How about a humble point?
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There's An Easter Egg At 43:51
Hello everyone listening and watching this podcast. You have found yourself in the midst of a distractible trap. You cannot leave until you have completed this episode and then told all your friends and family about distractible so that they can then in turn be trapped inside the Jumanji that is this podcast.
Distractible
There's An Easter Egg At 43:51
Not usually, no. I can't remember where anything is, so no, I don't get those visions. If you could send some my way, because yesterday I was circling around for my backpack.
Distractible
There's An Easter Egg At 43:51
Yeah, but I was looking for my backpack, right? And I was circling around and I thought I was crazy because I looped the kitchen 15 times looking and scanning and scanning and I'm like, I know I brought it in or at least I brought it out of my truck. I know I did. And finally on my 15th pass, I happened to look out the window and outside sitting on the ground... Ist mein Backpack.
Distractible
There's An Easter Egg At 43:51
That's usually my life philosophy is I get about 80% of what I need to do and then I shift gears completely and forget about it. Anyway, nice superpower.
Distractible
There's An Easter Egg At 43:51
Did I ever tell you guys whenever I thought I had a superpower? I might have told you this story. What do you got? I don't know how old I was. I was probably like 4th, 5th, 6th grade, somewhere in that range. Probably younger. 3rd, 4th, 5th grade. Meine Mutter hatte ein kleines Haus, eine kleine Rente, sehr klein, aber damals liebten wir den Ort, weil es einen Pool im Hintergrund hatte.
Distractible
There's An Easter Egg At 43:51
Und ich erinnere mich, ich war draußen am Pool und ich schaute herum und ich war so, oh mein Gott, ich sehe Dinge im Luftraum, die andere Menschen nicht sehen können. Und ich ging zu meiner Mutter und ich war so, Mama, I'm pretty sure I can see like bacteria and disease in the air. And she was like, what? I'm looking around and I see it. There's like a strand of it right there.
Distractible
There's An Easter Egg At 43:51
And that's whenever she was like, you're nearsighted. Those are floaters. Haha. Ich habe mich wirklich überrascht. Es gab einen 5-minütigen Zeitraum, in dem ich geschaut habe und gedacht habe, oh mein Gott, ich sehe es. Ich sehe es in der Luft, wie unter einem Mikroskop. Aber ich brauche keinen Mikroskop, weil ich super... Ich liebe das.
Distractible
There's An Easter Egg At 43:51
Warte, ich gebe dir einen Überzeugungspunkt, weil ich kann das eigentlich zu diesem nicht über die Floater beurteilen, weil ich das, ich fühle mich, als ich als Kind das wusste. Aber es gibt noch eine Sache, die du sehen kannst. Und ich habe es nur bemerkt, als ich es zum ersten Mal bemerkt habe, als ich auf einem Flugzeug war.
Distractible
There's An Easter Egg At 43:51
Ich war aus dem Fenster, schaue nach dem Szenario und ich könnte weinen, dass ich diese kleinen Squigglies sehe, die sagen, was? Ich habe nicht genau herausgefunden, was das Konkrete Beispiel ist. Aber man kann eigentlich die Schatten sehen. Das ist es, was ich glaube. Die Schatten von weißen Blutzellen oder bestimmten Dingen, die sich bewegen.
Distractible
There's An Easter Egg At 43:51
Once you start the game, you have to finish it or else the monkeys are going to keep roaming and the earthquakes are going to keep going and that hunter is going to come after you till the end of the earth. And yes, he will be your father. What year is it? Wait, unless Bob, you were doing a weight impression.
Distractible
There's An Easter Egg At 43:51
Es ist entweder auf der Oberfläche des Augen oder irgendwo in der Rückseite. Aber man kann eigentlich etwas so sehen. Ich dachte, ich war in den Universum. Ich dachte, ich sehe in einen anderen Raum. Ich dachte, der Himmel öffnet sich oder so etwas. Ego bricht wirklich ein, wenn du findest, dass es nicht so ist, ist es nicht?
Distractible
There's An Easter Egg At 43:51
Das ist genau das. Und das GIF ist genau das, was ich gesehen habe. Das ist verrückt. Okay, also ja, das ist... Oh ja, es sind weiße Blutzellen, die sich in die Kapillare vor dem Retina des Augen bewegen. Und blaue Licht ist das, was sie sehen. Das würde erklären, warum, wenn ich auf den Himmel schaue. Ich habe literal gesagt blauer Himmel, aber ich wusste nicht über das. Weil...
Distractible
There's An Easter Egg At 43:51
I just noticed it was always in front of like a very bright, clear, solid blue sky. And it just so happened when I was flying is the first time that I noticed it. But that's cool. You know, it might have been a combination of this and the floaters. I'm so nearsighted that I saw when I was laying because I was laying outside looking up at the sky whenever I noticed it, too.
Distractible
There's An Easter Egg At 43:51
So, yeah, it looks like little bacteria or whatever. And I was like, my superpower. What a terrible superpower. But I've got one. Floaters are somewhat similar, sometimes whenever you do see them, like in your vision.
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It surprised me that he had fallen down a rabbit hole. What could do that to him?
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I've asked him in a non-offensive way how it is that he's come to accept these line of thinking. Do you think I can kind of persuade him out of some of this stuff? I don't think it's for you to persuade. It's for, you know, the stuff not to come to pass. There's a lot of conspiracy theory groups that expected the end of the world to have come, and they've just pushed the date back.
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What he may learn is not to be so gung-ho. He should always keep open the possibility that this theory, you know, his belief, is wrong.
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Revolutionizing Ag Equipment: Behind the Scenes with Strobel, Terraplex, and Brandt
Thanks a lot. Thank you. Hey, well, good morning. I'm in west central Missouri this morning, and I'm visiting with my friend Brent Pearson of Pearson Farms. So, Brent, when I think about this year, only one word comes to mind, and it's extremes.
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It is. That is definitely a year of extremes. I remember being out here. We shot a video earlier this year, and it was raining, and it was wet when we were out here. And then, like you said, it just turned off dry. And you guys have a river on the backside, and somewhere in the middle, you guys had a flood as well.
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One extreme to the next. And you guys are in the field cutting right now.
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And Brent, just one thing I kind of want to talk about with products that you've used at Change. A lot of times when we think about Change, we think it has to be complicated and it has to kind of almost be over our heads. You guys made a change this year utilizing GrowPak AI and pretty simple. What was your response to that? What was your interaction with it?
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Good deal, right? Get our micros, get our biologicals, and just be able to get it in the ground without a lot of extra work. Yeah, absolutely. Well, Brent, I'll let you guys get back in the field. I appreciate it, bud. Appreciate y'all.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
Yeah, yeah.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
Yes.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
Yes, it does.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
Not at all. People are usually in their own world.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
Mm-hmm.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
Absolutely.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
Also, yes.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
Not yet. Not so much. I definitely really like the idea of that good self-talk, focusing much more on the good things as opposed to the bad things. Because obviously, That's how our anxieties work. So I definitely like that idea of like, no, I'm not going to focus on all these hypotheticals that have never happened and probably won't and really focus on this good outcome.
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Because even if I – I shouldn't say fail, but even if I get rejected, it's still – I feel good about having done that.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
No.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
Yes, it does.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
No, so leading up to our conversation, I listened to your Valentine's Day episodes, which I absolutely loved. Great. And I loved a lot of information about the actual method of To the Madness, really, of observation, comment, question. And then, you know, pivoting to your name and then another topic. I love that.
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I guess the one thing that is really in my mind right now, especially with, you know, I want to go out and start doing this stuff tonight. The thing for me is I think it feels easier to talk to another person who's out by themselves. But the big thing is always for me is when I see maybe a group of women, say it's four or five, and there's only one that I am interested in.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
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And, um, obviously, you know, I don't want to just isolate her just herself, but at the same time, I don't want to maybe have to talk to all of them forever just to get to one girl's number. So do you have any like, uh, you know, tips or plans or tricks or how to, you know, approach a situation when there may be as only one girl you find attractive in a group of like four or five?
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Okay. Okay, I like that. I like that idea a lot.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
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And you'd still like same mentality, same idea if it was, let's say, a smaller group, like it's just two of them or just three of them.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
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I had a situation where I wanted to talk to this girl, and we even made eye contact a couple times. Actually, it was the same night from earlier where I just bought the girl a drink and walked away. But we made eye contact a couple times, and she was dancing with her friends, and they had made like a blockade in front of her. And it just felt like, ah, I don't want to just –
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
I don't know how to really approach the situation when I only want to talk to you. And yeah, they're all dancing together.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
Yes.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
Awesome. I love that. Thank you. All right.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
next question one thing that i would say is like if i if i had like i don't know like a um approaching bucket list i know we hate the a word but just uh you know going out to girls talking to girls bucket list i um would would like to at least try a couple direct approaches and I know I already talked about how approaches always have been some that I've struggled with.
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I've had a couple of my college years girls I approached directly, but liquid courage was definitely a big factor of it. So without alcohol, I would love to do some direct approaches here and there. I guess my question would be is when would you recommend doing a direct opener?
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I'm assuming you probably don't necessarily recommend them in like a Whole Foods, but when would you say is like a good indicator that this is maybe a good situation to go more direct?
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I've heard the name, but I've never seen it.
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Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
Yes.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
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Yes, yes. Okay. Got you. So, like, in my personal life, like, I am the king of overthinking things. That is, like, you know, my biggest, I wouldn't say red flag, my biggest critique of myself is I'm a big overthinker. When I'm about to compete, I have an entire pre-fight ritual that I do. Okay. Which just kind of gets me in that zone. MMA, right? Yes. Nice.
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So, you know, I have my specific, you know, motivational podcast. I listen to, you know, mean faces in the mirror, stuff like that. Sounds corny to say out loud, but it gets me in that. I got to go hurt somebody's own. Is there obviously not hurting people, but and again, I may be overthinking this. Do you have like a to kind of get you out of that?
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in your head mentality and getting into becoming like a man of action do you have like some sort of almost pre-approach ritual kind of thing when you know that you're going to be going out like hey we're going out tonight talk to some girls do you have like your own little pre-approach like uh or just pre-going out like things you do say kind of hype yourself up with that kind of gets you in that kind of mentality i do i'll i'll take you through that process in a second before i do i'm curious what is your definition of in my head what does that mean to you
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So in my head for me is I'm focusing so much on not messing something up and also fighting with the part of me that just wants this. Let's just go home. Let's just go home. Let's not do this. No, no, no, no. Let's not do this. I know that they say anxiety was made to keep us safe. So I'm fighting with that anxious part of me that is thinking of every excuse not to do whatever I have to do or –
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
wants to compromise by making sure everything is, you know, movie level perfect. And, uh, and while I'm trying to come up with, you know, this, you know, impossibly perfect scenario in my head, she just walked away.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
So I can give you an example of recently. Okay. My gym is connected to a rec center. That rec center has a very big, very popular indoor beach volleyball group or just culture. They do indoor beach volleyball all year round, hundreds of people. A very attractive girl who I've seen a couple times is there. I just got done with my workout. I see she's wrapping up her workout, and...
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She's talking to friends here and there, grabbing something to drink, getting her stuff. And I'm just trying to think in my... Okay, I want to say something to her. what should I say? Okay. No, no, no. Can't say right now. She's talking to her friend. Oh, I can't say right. Oh, she might go back to playing volleyball. Let me, let me hold up a little bit. Oh no, she's leaving. Okay.
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Now she's going to the bathroom. Like, and really, I feel like I'm stalking her at this point. Um, so it's just, it's just me trying to think of like, uh, find that quote unquote perfect moment in my head. And every situation almost has to go through a filter of like, is this perfect? And, and that's just my brain's way of trying to find something that's, Oh no, it's too sunny right now.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
Something like that to an excuse, I guess I should say. And so, so yeah, she just walked. All right, see you guys. And just walked away. And I guess I'll say something to her. I see her again.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
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Yeah, so the problem I've always had, first of all, thank you for meeting with me, of course. I've always had this same problem since, you know, pretty much since I was a teenager, really, has always been approaching, you know. When I was just a quick, you know, backstory, you know, I was that little shy, nerdy kid, you know, loved my, you know, anime and Power Rangers and stuff and martial arts.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
I would say, you know, anytime... I just strike up a conversation with a woman I feel attracted to and just not give a fuck. I can say fuck, right?
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
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Okay. It's required, actually. All right. Just not give a fuck about my own anxieties or what I think other people might be thinking about the situation. I'm embodying courage. Nice.
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Anytime... I ask for a number after going through the natural approaching method and conversation of embodying courage. Hell yeah.
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Anytime I would say go direct, specifically maybe direct at a more nighttime or bar or something like that because I like a nice pub. Anytime I go direct, direct opener, I'm embodying courage.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
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Yes, definitely want to get rid of that guy.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
And, you know, I was always when I was younger, I was very self-conscious about my interests and hobbies. And it always felt like, you know, I wasn't the kind of guy who approaches women, you know. I know you talk about a lot of your lower self. I would think of a thousand different reasons why I wasn't good enough at that moment.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
All right. I guess like the only other question, which we've kind of already hit a little bit on it right now. I know I think I love what you said. You can talk to anyone with any time with confidence with courage. Excuse me. Yeah. I guess since I know that that lower self is definitely still going to pop up here and there, I guess. And this is by no means any kind of like a.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
giving myself an excuse or a way out or anything like that. Would you say there's like any, a good idea of like when, okay, maybe right now isn't a good idea. Like I know like obviously, oh, she's got a car accident. Maybe don't say something to her right now while she's sorting those things out. But, um, she's trying to fly the plane.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
Think about that same girl. I promise I'm not obsessed with her. The rec center girl? Yes. So I know she's one of the volleyball player athletes there. And so I know it's like they go in and out, take breaks, jump back in there. And so there have been times I'm like, okay, is she done now? And then, oh, no, she's just taking a break. They're jumping back in.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
And as life progressed, as I got older, I became much more confident in myself. I took up MMA and I absolutely love it as a sport now. And, um, it, I, my confidence just bloomed as I got older and, um, and I don't consider myself like that anymore. I really, you know, believe, you know, I'm the shit for lack of a better term, but it is the one thing that never really.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
So, like, obviously I'm not going to try and talk to her while she's in the middle of a game. So that was one.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
Right. So they do inter-tournament games like a couple times a week. So sometimes it's a little tricky to know like, okay, are they done, done? Right. Or is it just a break?
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Right.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
I think that pretty much answers most of my main questions, really. In preparation for us talking, I loved your Valentine's Day series on approaching. Thank you. And just having that good framework. And it's funny, listening to it, I just felt like, this is how we... Talk to normal people. It's like I could have a conversation with like any guy or any person who I'm not interested in.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
It's only when there's a level of attraction added to it. At least I feel like I kind of reinvent the wheel. And I just having that kind of framework to go back to, you know, question, compliment, observation, you know. explore that topic. Hi, my name is John.
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Why You Freeze When You Want to Approach Beautiful Women—& How to Fix it NOW (Live Coaching with John!)
And then going to another topic that really just gives me a concise way to kind of like organize my thoughts, I guess, is a great way to say it.
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went away is that fear of approaching. It almost feels like it's like a muscle that I never really exercised. As I got older, especially in my college years, there were a couple approaches. It kind of just felt like that's what we were supposed to do, for lack of a better term. My dorm was kind of wild. So we had a lot of stupid games between the guys and the girls.
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No pressure. I've never done this live. It's totally fine. I am committed to... So for this weekend, it's St. Patrick's Day weekend. I am off on St. Patrick's Day. So I am committed to... I want to approach at least... I want to say five. Five women who I find attractive. Not just... I'm just saying this because I don't feel anxiety or worry if it's somebody I'm not interested in.
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So at least five women who I find attractive. And I want to go through the A, B, and C of the approach. And I want to force myself to have that two-minute conversation with them, even if I'm feeling kind of stuck or kind of fidgety of the situation. And then just I want to... Part of me wants to commit to a lower number, like, oh, shoot my shot with one.
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But I'm going to say I want to shoot my shot with five. Nice. And because I know if I only do one, then I'll be like the last person I talk to. And then. whether she says yes or no, now I've, now I feel confident. So I know once I shoot my shot with that one, with one, regardless of if she says yes or no, I know that's going to give me that, like that boost of like, Oh, that was easy.
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So that I can keep doing the rest. So I'm, my commitment this weekend is to, uh, Again, I'm not saying an A-word approach, but have a good conversation with five women who I find attractive and shoot my shot in terms of trying to get their number or contact information with all five of them.
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Absolutely.
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Everyone heard it. I can't back out.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
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So there were a couple approaches here and there in college. But for the most part, I really gravitated towards online dating as I got older, just because Tinder and Hinge and all that
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And I will let you know what happened no matter what. I'm not going to ghost you after this is over. No, I know. I know. So it was great. She's still here at my house. She won't leave or, you know.
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Got you. Okay. Yeah.
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You've been a huge, huge help. Thank you. You and your content kind of came into my life at the perfect time. I went through a horrible breakup last year and my mom bought me your book. Oh, right. Your mom? Yeah. Just bought me your book as a, hey, I know the breakup was tough, but I want grandchildren, so read this book that I got. So you came to my life at a really good time.
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Absolutely. Let's go get her some grandkids.
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it took away the hard part for me you know it took away the having to know if she's interested to put myself out there once we you know bing once we match i know already that okay there's at least some general interest right and and um that made things easier and so but really all it did was make it a crutch and so you know now that i'm older now i'm in my 30s um
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The relationship I thought would be the final one, my bride-to-be, unfortunately didn't go that well. So I'm back in the dating pool, and I don't really want to do the whole app thing anymore for various reasons. But as I mentioned, it feels like that approaching muscle is just not there. And I still almost feel like I'm 14 again, trying to go up to a girl.
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It would have been last year. I mean, it's the beginning of the year. So this would have been maybe, I want to say last summer, at a bar with my buddy. And that was embarrassing. So my buddy's egging me on to say something to her. And... I just, I'm freezing in all of this. So I remember I actually went up to her and we're both waiting in line to get a drink.
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I said, hey, what's that drink you have? And it was, I don't remember, White Claw or something like that. I'm like, okay. And so I was in front of her. I'm like, White Claw for me and her. And so, oh, thanks. And you're welcome. And then I just sprint away. And that was the closest thing.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Definitely the social judgment aspect of it.
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The rejection, I've had a rejection before. That's not as much of a big deal. It's just that polarizing idea of like, I'm going to say it and... barista is going to hear it and you'll think i'm the the new weirdo and ban me from this from starbucks or something like that or yeah yeah yeah the new weirdos that was my rock band in college by the way
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Yeah, I've heard some of your music, yeah.
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Absolutely.
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Yes.
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For starters, having a great conversation, you know, getting to meet somebody new, even if it doesn't work out, you know. Potential relationship. Yep. Sex.
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Yeah, sex at Starbucks.
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Absolutely, yeah.
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Just knowing that I took that action, that the, you know, that lower self, that self-conscious puppy boy, right? Yes.
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And then another one is, aside from just feeling that good action, just having a story to tell. Not even necessarily bragging, just being like, oh yeah, I met this great girl today.
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Oh, absolutely. Yes.
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Yes.
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What that taught me was that so oftentimes we fear the unknown and we don't put ourselves out there to go after what we want.
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Well, I mean, it's so easy to get stuck in that state. I mean, I will tell you, I've been there myself. I remember when I was in Fortune 50 companies, it's so easy to fall in that trap where you're working 60, 70, 80, even a hundred hours a week. And everything else seems to, to not be the focal point because you're so darn focused on what you think is important, but truly isn't.
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So I think the first thing that a person needs to do is separate themselves from feeling that that's what's going to bring them fulfillment and happiness. And I remember, um,
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and I read about this in the book, one of the things that I had to do to get through this block is I actually went and saw a career coach who was a psychologist on top of that and he started to talk to me about you are living basically on one cylinder and he had me think about a stool with multiple supports but one of my supports
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was weighing much heavier than the others, and that was the constant grind. And when the constant grind is infiltrating your life like you're talking about, the other core aspects that you want to build, whether it's your health, relationships, et cetera, go to the wayside because you're investing so much in one area.
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So I think the first step you have to do is to do that exercise and to figure out what are the pillars that are holding you up? And the easiest way to do that is to use the Eisenhower matrix or to look at your calendar and your pocketbook, like where are you investing your time and where are you investing your money?
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And then you have to look at if you want to change that, what do the pillars really look like that you want to support you? And then I think once you have that in mind, I think the trap we fall into is trying to go from point A to point B too quickly. And I think the best thing to do is to pick a starting point.
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So maybe in order to get the more dimensional aspects of yourself out there and you want a hobby, Maybe it's just initially starting to read a book as an example on a path that you want to go to and making a deliberate choice that every single day you're going to read 10 minutes of a book. Or maybe it's you want to start a gratitude practice and use that.
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My point is I find it much easier to start... creating a habit loop out of something that's small, that's repeatable. And what I find is that once you start making changes in one area of your life, you end up magically making changes in multiple areas of your life because that one area opens up some confidence for you to explore another area.
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And then almost subconsciously you're doing more and more. Absolutely.
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Well, if all you have to talk about is your job and that's where your identity completely lies in, I mean, it's going to be a disaster because who wants to date someone who's married to their job?
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Well, it could have been. I think it depends on the woman you're talking to. It sounds like you were talking to someone who is an intellectual or more willing to immerse herself into that. Now, personally, I think some people might hear the topic of Abraham Lincoln and without even wanting to explore it more, push it aside without realizing how much that you can learn from his life.
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Yeah, you know, part of that quote actually came from me studying Hilary Swank. And it's interesting when you look back at her career. And I had originally meant to focus more on her in the book. I talk about her a few times throughout it. But her life, people don't really know the back story that before she made it big in Boys Don't Cry,
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I mean, it's amazing when you go back and examine him how interesting it is and how much of a conversation starter that could be, which my point here is that when you're dating, you might not think of that as a core conversation starter, but for so many years until he was in his mid-30s, mid to late 30s,
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Lincoln thought he was a piece of driftwood just aimlessly bouncing off one thing to the next. And if you follow his career trajectory, that's exactly what he was doing. I mean, he went from job to job, from shopkeeper to surveyor to politician to lawyer, back to politician, back to lawyer. I mean, he had such...
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a lack of passion for a while in his life that when he finally found what that passion was, which was to rid the world or the United States of slavery, it ignited in him and took fire. And I think it's a great story for a date, actually, because it gives you so much to talk about, about what's your journey been like? How have you found your passion?
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which could lead into various conversation starters for someone. So interesting topic.
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Yeah, a good friend of mine, uh, wrote this book, Scare Your Soul. And in it, Scott really talks about the core. It's a great companion to my book because that's really, to your point, what you need to do. You really need to challenge yourself on a daily basis to push the boundaries the self-imposed limits that you place upon yourself.
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And this is another area where I think we complicate what those barriers have to be because we make these challenges almost insurmountable in our mind instead of looking at them as small boundary shifts. So similar to you, I love to do improv. I think we're going to
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possibly do this more in the interview but when I started to go down this path part of the reason I was doing it is I was trying to get more into public speaking again and I hadn't done it in a number of years and so for me the thought of getting up there on the stage and having to be in front of a group of people was quite intimidating because my back story is I've had a number of traumatic brain injuries and they cause me
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It's probably not apparent as you're watching this, but it causes me to have speech impediment. And I oftentimes think ahead of speaking or vice versa. So sometimes things come out of my mouth that I don't want to. So a whole bunch of things. And you could sit there and ruminate on that process. forever or you can choose to do something about it.
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And the only way you're going to get over things like that is by getting out there and doing it. So improv to me was a great way to start leaning into that. But I remember when I first showed up and the way our improv class went was we did a number of games before we actually went into the improv class and started to do improv. And these games immediately put you in an uncomfortable place. And
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for which she only was paid like $3,500, she lived for a very long time out of a minivan of sorts, just trying to do odd ends. And what that taught me was that so oftentimes we fear the unknown and we don't put ourselves out there to go after what we want. And she's a great
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I remember one of the first ones we did was this game where we picked a random partner or we were kind of told to turn around and then we had to stare at them for five minutes straight and then were asked to make facial expressions to kind of convey what we were thinking in our mind to give them a subliminal message.
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And I don't care who you are, staring at someone you don't know for five minutes is It's a hard thing to do. My point, though, with this is once you condition yourself to do things like this, and that's a hard task, it gets so much easier.
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So one of the things I try to do for my community is in my newsletter, every single week I put out a weekly challenge that goes to the solo episode that I do for that week. So this past week I did a solo episode on gratitude, so I put a seven-day challenge in there that I try to do myself
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So then I'm giving the listeners or readers tips that they can do to expand their courage muscles every single day by just taking a small step in the right direction that you want to go. And I think that's the way you have to do it.
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Yes, well, specifically, I'm going to talk about both and thinking. We are so conditioned in Western society by stoicism and so much of the Western teachings we burn up to that we get conditioned to things have to be either or. And when it comes to gratitude, what I was specifically exploring in this recent episode was using gratitude to help navigate pain. or challenges.
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And for me, I used two examples from my life. One was my sister unfortunately lost her battle with pancreatic cancer earlier in the year, followed up by a few months later, we were severely impacted by Hurricane Helene and had three feet of water in our house. And it's so amazing because you see
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pictures of people who experience natural disasters on Instagram or wherever you want to look on the news. And I swear, until it happens to you, you don't realize the magnitude of loss and devastation that comes with it. And it's hard at those moments to feel gratitude for anything, especially when you're on top of that enduring loss of a loved one.
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So to me, where both and thinking really comes into play is challenging yourself that you can allow yourself to feel both the immense feelings of devastation, those big feelings of loss, of hurt, And have gratitude on the other side of it. Gratitude that I got to spend so many years of my life with an incredible woman who influenced me in so many ways.
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Gratitude that I was there just hours before she died so I could hear her final thoughts and wishes. The devastation of feeling the loss of losing everything, of seeing pictures of your kids and paintings that they created that were in, for lack of a better word, shit water, that you're never going to be able to get back.
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I think example of someone who stepped into her sharp edges, the sharpness of that fear and utilized it to go after what she truly wanted. And then when she had her opportunity, she went for broke on it and it transformed not only her life, but the lives of millions now who've watched her in different movies. So I think when it comes to fear,
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But the gratitude that you had those memories and that those memories are alive and that everyone is safe and that you can rebuild. And it gives my fiance and I a shot that we don't have to hold on to our old possessions, but instead we can build a new life together in gratitude of what that life can be.
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So I would tell people that easier ways to do this is to look at what are challenges that you might be facing just today. Is it a deadline from work that you're facing? Is it a challenge that maybe you said something you shouldn't have to a loved one? Maybe you haven't shown up the way you would like to for your kids. And then how can you spin that so that you recognize
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both the condition that you have those faults and the opportunity that you have to write them and do something on the other side of it that lifts that person up, that takes that stress away by maybe giving yourself the gift of a workout or the gift of listening to a podcast or the gift of showing gratitude that you can listen to music and balance out the stress that you're feeling.
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Yeah. You know, and it's, um, it just reminded me of, um, my, my sister was divorced and, um, when she was first diagnosed with, with pancreatic cancer, she was single. And I remember her saying to me, um, you know, how am I ever going to find love again in my life? Like who would ever want to date someone who's been diagnosed with, with potentially a terminal illness? And it,
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It really made me think about what it would be like to be in her shoes, wanting and needing and probably longing for love and support in that situation and feeling desperate on the other side that she wouldn't be able to find it.
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I kind of just leaned into her and said, it's easy to think that way, but the right person who loves you for the right reasons is going to see beyond that and want to fulfill you for as long as they possibly can. should instill you with the hope that no matter how bleak things seem, there's a reason to fight and a potential to take action and try to defeat the things in front of you.
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We tend to be our own visionary arsonists in our own life, meaning we arson the very things that we want to build and it's that fear, just like an arsonist, that fuels this, I guess, overwhelming self-belief system that we're not good enough imposter syndrome, whatever you might want to call it, but we can't attain the things that we're setting out in life to achieve.
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Well, what I'd love to talk about right now is the topic of mattering. I think we hear these things all the time of, chronic hopelessness and people facing loneliness in the world and people who feel battered, bored, however you want to say it. And throughout so much of the world, we've had so much political turmoil and everything else, it's easy to feel those things.
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But I think at the crux of this is a feeling of unmattering. I think whether it's in your personal life or professionally, this lack of feeling significance is at the heart of a lot of these symptoms that we're feeling. So, I mean, I'll apply this to the dating world.
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If you want someone to reciprocate love to you, attraction to you, I think there's three aspects of mattering that I talk to that could be applied here as well. The first thing is You have to matter to yourself. We've talked a lot about building self-worth today, getting over self-limiting beliefs.
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But at the core of that, it's really our own sense of feeling significance, of feeling we matter, and a feeling that we are bringing value to the world. Then there are two other sides of mattering. One is us feeling that we matter to others. So I think that's where a lot of our confidence or lack of it shows up is do we feel like we hold weight in the presence of others?
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Do we feel like others care about our well-being? Do they recognize our inherent capabilities? Do you portray them the right way so that people are receptive to that? And then I think the third lens of mattering is our ability to show others that they matter.
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And I think this is one of the biggest keys if you're looking at a relationship or dating is how are you showing up for someone else so that they feel like they matter, like they hold significance, like you view them as the central point in your life and that they're
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their interests, their passions truly matter to you because if you want them to reciprocate, you have to show to them that they matter. And so I think that those three concentric circles, people don't look at that enough. And to me, this is where intentionality, which I talk a lot about, comes at the core of this because Intentionality is really about self-control.
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It's making the choices for how we want to show up in the moments that make up our days. So are you making choices where You are building yourself up to hold significance. Are you making choices where you are making others feel like they matter? And are you doing the things to project and show up in a way that others are going to feel like you matter?
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And to me, that all comes down to the choices that we make, the people we surround ourselves with, the environments that we put ourselves into.
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And so this whole book that I wrote is really about how do you break down those barriers with a formula that I've come up with to let go of that fear so that you can pursue those things that instill the most desire, fulfillment, whatever you want to call it, hope in where you want your life to be in the future.
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I think the worst question that there is is what do you do? And I'm going to go all the way back to Hilary Swank because she's such an easy example. She could say, I'm an actress. She could say, I'm a producer. She could say, I'm a wife. I'm a mother.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
When she is asked that question, what she says to people is, I'm a storyteller, and I want to change people's lives through the stories that I tell throughout my life, whether it's the stories I'm able to share with my kids, the stories I'm able to bring to life as a producer, the stories I'm able to act and bring to life on the big screen. And I think...
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
when we think about that question, it's so easy to self-identify with what we do for work instead of how we wanna show up in the world and the service that we're trying to provide to the world to make it a little bit better of a place.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
No, I think that's very, I mean, it's very important. I guess I would think back to my time as like a CIO at Dell. And if someone would ask me that question, instead of saying I'm the CIO of Dell, I could say I help people create the power to do more.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
Yes, more with technology, more with capabilities. Because underlying any company today is the technology enablement that it does, and it really gives people the ability to do more with their jobs.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
Sure, let's go for it.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
I hate how much peanut butter sticks to the top of my mouth.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
I love the Doors because I think that they have stood the test of time. Their songs resonate with people today just as much as they did when they were written, regardless of what you think of Jim Morrison's talent or not. people feel a message when they hear his voice and when they hear their music.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
So I would say I love Batman because he is the unexpected hero. I almost look at him like he's an everyday hero because he really doesn't have a superpower. All the superpowers he has are built on his belief system and the gadgets that he has to make change in the world. It's not as if he was born with extraordinary strength or speed or...
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
is able to have laser vision like so many other people do, but yet he is really fighting for the cause of making Gotham City a better place to live and trying to root out evil in the best passionate way that he can.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
Well, thank you so much, and thank you for having me on the show. And I haven't had to use the PassionStruck construct for relationships, so it was an interesting interview for me from that standpoint. But if you want to learn more about me personally, you can go to my website, John R. Miles.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
Yeah, I'm not sure why this one is coming top of mind, but I'll just talk about in high school. I ran cross-country and track, and I remember my entire freshman year, I was a good runner. I wouldn't say I was a great runner. And part of my issue was when I got to the starting line, I had done a lot of preparation, but I got myself...
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
If you want to learn more about what we're doing with PassionStruck, you can go to PassionStruck.com, which has the podcast. the book and everything else and I am really enthusiastic about spreading the word about living a life of significance and I can tailor this message to both corporate events where it's like how do you develop a passion-struck culture where employees feel like they matter
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
Or I can tailor this to associations or individual events if you're looking for personal development. And if you want to learn more about my speaking, see that reel, et cetera, the best place to do that is on the John R. Miles website.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
so nervous, so fearful of the outcome before it happened, that I would work myself into such an anxious state, sometimes throwing up before races, etc., that because I wasn't in a relaxed state to allow myself to get into flow, I was not allowing myself to perform nearly as well as I possibly could. And so I started to read some books and do some research on this when I was in high school.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
And I realized that if I wanted to get accustomed to what that starting line feels like and overcome that fear of the starting line, I need to start treating practice as an actual race. and get into that mental conditioning that every time I step foot, whether it was a training run or us doing exercises on the track, to treat it like I was stepping into a race environment.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
And the more I condition myself to feel like that and to prepare for it in that way and to be mentally on the go at that moment, it translated then into overwhelming success for a young runner to end up winning a state championship and then going on to run Division I cross country and track. But if I had continued to fuel that fear, I would have never gotten over it.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
So it was really a story of recognizing that I had to overcome it and look for tangible ways that I could do so.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
No, I mean, it absolutely is. And I think you look at people who are at the top. I can't tell you how many CEOs and other senior leaders I've met, we'll take this outside of dating, who have reached that pinnacle and are still so insecure about who they are, their messages, constantly questioning others about what decisions they should make.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
And it reminds me of a CEO I worked at in this tech company. And we used to call him the elevator CEO, because whoever he rode the elevator last with, he would come out of that with a new strategic decision for the company. And he let these impulsive decisions guide his personal strategy instead of doubling down on his key strengths.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
And here we have a person who came from Procter & Gamble, was actually the person who created two or three of Procter & Gamble's biggest selling products of all time. And you wouldn't think that a person of that pedigree
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
would have that insecurity, but in essence, he was filled with self-doubt, and part of that self-doubt came because he was going into a different environment than Proctor and Gamble.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
He came from a brick-and-mortar type of focus to one that was more of a digital focus, and I think he felt because he didn't have the same pedigree as some of the other people he was working with, that that was a disadvantage, when actually, he should have looked at it completely differently. He should have brought out the ideas
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
that he had from that Procter & Gamble experience and let those who work for him fill in the gaps and be his pillars of strength in bridging his ideas with technology. Now, the same thing can happen in the dating world where... You know, I've seen it all the time where the person who's got the most self-confidence, that's what the opposite sex or same sex is attracted to.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
They want to see someone who understands their self-value, understands the power that they hold, and conveys it in a way that shows self-authority, self-awareness, etc. And that truly is a superpower.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
Well, I think you first have to analyze... and get a firm grip of where you currently are. And I think that's one of the biggest issues that people face is we live in a world that's facing the disease of disconnection. And the biggest disconnection that we face is understanding who we truly are. and really doing a 360 evaluation on ourself and how we're showing up to others in the world.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
And part of that showing up is looking yourself in the mirror. Part of it is also seeking feedback from others in subtle ways so you understand how you are showing up to them. And so I think it really gets down to the core of we need to spend time getting comfortable with ourselves, what we believe in, what we're passionate about, and using that as our fuel to then bring that out into the world.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
Because if you're never feeling good about who you are and your inner strengths, there's no way you're going to be able to project that onto someone else.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
Well, as you were saying that, it took me back in time to my days in college and Um, I, I remember at, at the Naval Academy, when you show up, you're coming out of a high school environment where you're typically, if you get into the Naval Academy or any of the service academies, you're at the pinnacle of your, of your school. You've got good class grades.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
Typically you're involved in a lot of, um, clubs, probably student council. You're typically a varsity athlete. You've got all that going for you. And when you get to the Naval Academy, you realize how normal you are compared to everyone else. It's like a friend of mine who was a Big 12 All-American football player, and he showed up to the NFL Combine thinking he was
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
the best NFL player to ever put his shoes on. And he got there and he realized how average he was compared to everyone else. And I remember back in those days going out with a group of midshipmen who were my friends and going to try to introduce ourselves to women. And you're constantly comparing yourself to those around you and thinking that you're not worthy of it. And I think...
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
that whole idea of worthiness is to me where it starts and ends is you, you have to start building the conditioning that you are worthy to have the life you want. You're worried, you're worthy to have the partner that you want. You're worthy of building the life together that you aspire to have. And it's,
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
really tapping into the vehicles that bring you worth and make you feel like you've, you've have that to share with someone else, because when you feel that self worth, others can feel it. It's just like a, kind of like an aura that, that just comes out of your body. And it's really plugging into what are the things that make you feel alive that,
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
Hey, Connell. Thank you so much for having me. Such an honor to be on your show.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
that boost up that inner fire that bring that worth out into the world, so to speak.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
456 - True & Provable
Every time I hear about my dad, it's, oh, he's a killer. He's just straight evil.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
456 - True & Provable
I just had to know. How did this happen?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
456 - True & Provable
Every time I hear about my dad, it's, oh, he's a killer. He's just straight evil.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Minisode 413
This is exactly right.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Minisode 413
On our show, This Podcast Will Kill You, we explore the wild world of diseases, their history, biology, and impact today. Vaccines are in part a victim of their own success. They have been so effective in preventing disease and death that we take them for granted. Mm-hmm.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Minisode 413
I'm Erin Welsh, an ecologist and epidemiologist. And I'm Erin Allman-Updike, also an epidemiologist. On our show, this podcast will kill you. We cover everything from the biology of deadly diseases to the weird history behind them, all with a healthy dose of humor.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Minisode 413
They absolutely do. Yeah. They're kind of cute. Or when we used a classic movie reference to explain allergy tests.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Minisode 413
It's just like Iocane powder in The Princess Bride, but it works.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Minisode 413
On our show, This Podcast Will Kill You, we explore the wild world of diseases, their history, biology, and impact today. Vaccines are in part a victim of their own success. They have been so effective in preventing disease and death that we take them for granted.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Minisode 413
Listen to This Podcast Will Kill You on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Minisode 413
Listen to This Podcast Will Kill You on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Minisode 413
I'm Erin Welsh, an ecologist and epidemiologist. And I'm Erin Allman-Updike, also an epidemiologist. On our show, This Podcast Will Kill You, we cover everything from the biology of deadly diseases to the weird history behind them, all with a healthy dose of humor.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Minisode 413
They absolutely do. Yeah. They're kind of cute. Or when we used a classic movie reference to explain allergy tests.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Minisode 413
It's just like Iocane powder in The Princess Bride, but it works.
My Friend Daisy
Episode 1 - Sitting Ducks
Okay, Sam, that has to be the craziest story in OK Storytime podcast history.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
The Episode for People Who Are Exhausted By Dating (How to Change Your Strategy and Mindset for the New Year)
My husband has a secret son from a past partner. Hold up, Sam. How do we know? Have we done the DNA test? Well, John, luckily it's mother. May I have a DNA test week on the OK Storytime podcast? So we'll find out soon. And this wife writes, my husband received a Facebook message from a woman saying that he is the father of a five-year-old.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
The Episode for People Who Are Exhausted By Dating (How to Change Your Strategy and Mindset for the New Year)
At first, he didn't remember her, but then he realized they had a one-night stand right before we started dating. Wait, but do we have proof he's the dad? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to an iHeart podcast.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
6 Step Blueprint to Achieve All Your Goals for 2025 (Proven Method- Don't Skip This)
September, 1979. Virginia's top prison band, Edge of Daybreak, is about to record their debut album, Behind Bars. in just five hours.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
6 Step Blueprint to Achieve All Your Goals for 2025 (Proven Method- Don't Skip This)
One, two, three, four.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
6 Step Blueprint to Achieve All Your Goals for 2025 (Proven Method- Don't Skip This)
I'm Jamie Petras, music and culture writer. For the past five years, I've been talking to the band's three surviving members. They're out of prison now and in their 70s. Their past behind them. But they also have some unfinished business.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
6 Step Blueprint to Achieve All Your Goals for 2025 (Proven Method- Don't Skip This)
It's a story about the liberating power of music, the American justice system and ultimately second chances. Listen to Soul Incarcerated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
6 Step Blueprint to Achieve All Your Goals for 2025 (Proven Method- Don't Skip This)
Jay Shetty. The one, the only, Jay Shetty. Ha, ha.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
6 Step Blueprint to Achieve All Your Goals for 2025 (Proven Method- Don't Skip This)
45 years ago, a Virginia soul band called The Edge of Daybreak recorded their debut album, Behind Bars. Record collectors consider it a masterpiece. The band's surviving members are long out of prison, but they say they have some unfinished business. Listen to Soul Incarcerated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Revisionist History
Memorial Day, 2020 | Part 1
I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm not under arrest. My mommy's drunk. You can call her brother. Stand up. Stand up. I'm not going to ask you any more time. Stand up. Stand up. I'm not going to ask you again. Stand up. Get up now.
Revisionist History
Memorial Day, 2020 | Part 1
Get on your stomach now. No kidding, I just need to, y'all. What'd I say? Put your money back now! I feel nice playing to y'all. Ow!
Revisionist History
Memorial Day, 2020 | Part 1
Mom, stop! I didn't do nothing! Put your hands up! Teaser? Teaser! It's a taser, mama!
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Some of the coolest guys are bald guys.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Like Gandhi.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I know, it's a fantastic idea. Or if it was the last dance thing, who would be your version of Scotty Burrell? Scotty Burrell.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
yeah definitely i i think also you look at it for phase the change yeah robs i mean obviously an incredible player but elise too and i think the most important thing is what some of these teams do sometimes is like when they lose a player who's really good but is a veteran they bring a player who's sort of on the rise but is young and not as experienced and here you get
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
who is a proven winner, played an insane amount of big games. Jason pointed out, incredibly cerebral about the game. It's all about... And he said in his Top 20 interview that he's willing to change roles, play different spots, do different things, and I think he's a guy who's definitely capable of doing that.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
That was a guy that Jordan bullied. Oh, yeah, that's right. Who would you bully, Jason?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Obviously, you don't want to shift who he is as a player and put him in anchor roles or something like that, which isn't going to happen on FaZe. And then it's just a matter of how do you set it up, right?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Maybe it makes sense for Frozen to take some of those more passive lurk roles and some of the stuff that Rops was doing, and then Elish for you to be the more sort of aggressive lurker who would also sometimes go for space-creating plays even though he's on the side of the map and maybe just has a one-on-one, which also gives you the benefit of keeping the...
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
map control core of Brokey, Rain, and Kerrigan, right? Who've been doing it for a long time together and have their own dynamic and pace. Even though I don't think it would be terrible to sort of put Elisha in the group and put Rain on the side either. I think Rain has sort of...
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
the misfortune of being such a good teammate and all-around player that it was always about pleasing someone else before him, sort of, right? He was always just doing sort of what's left and what the team needs or anything like that, even though he could do a lot of different things, which we saw, for example, in this last iteration of FaZe with Kerrigan,
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Ever since Kerrigan joined, he got a bit more responsibility in terms of his roles like Yard or Nuke and the sort of a job that he's been doing on that map. So I think it could also probably work, but at the end of the day, it comes down to the team and the conversations they have and how to, across the board, have everyone at their most comfortable level.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
So, yeah, I mean, it does look like this is the only change for FaZe, really. I think it's all that's needed, really. And we also had, like, even before with Miles, with Robson, it's like when they're together on the same team, it's sort of like... It seems like Frozen, for whatever reason, doesn't really perform as well.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Like, once Rob left for FaZe, he played better than you had him together on FaZe, and it wasn't really sort of the fireworks that we were expecting to happen once that change happened.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
But like, I remember Rain or somebody saying... It was more micromanaging from Kerrigan than less micromanaging from Kerrigan.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yeah, I think so. They also get a dimension of a second voice on the team, really. I'm not saying they didn't have that before. It's just I'm not sure who necessarily was that on the team. Maybe it was different people at different times, like just chiming in with ideas because you have someone like Kerrigan who's probably going to be
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
very good at just coming up with different things on his own no matter how long the game goes on but I think it will definitely be helpful even for him to have someone like Elish who can chime in with an idea here and there you know especially playing that's why it would be a good thing for him to play on the side not play in the pack because then he's on the other side of the map compared to Kerrigan and can give him some valuable information and also for Elish I mean
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I guess it's fair to say the first real international team that he's been on. Well, I guess complexity was that, but that doesn't feel like it. Same with some iterations of Liquid, right?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yeah, so I think for him, I think he'll be very motivated by this challenge, really, to do it, you know, in that sort of a different environment as well. So we'll have to wait and see. I like it for FaZe. And then it's just, okay, is this going to, because they need a little bit more out of Frozen compared to, you know, let's say the grand final, but they need more out of Broky. Right.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
It has to be 17 or 18.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Like the last couple of months, it's been really poor for me. It was something where maybe FaZe would be looking to, to move on from him potentially. Right. And, and make a change there. But it seems like they're, they're sticking with it now and we'll see if this sort of helps Brokey in any way.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
But I just also want to touch on the whole Rob situation, man, because I did tweet about it and sort of blew up a little bit, but then people couldn't really understand fully the context that I meant, which is like, over the last year, a little bit over a year, FaZe has Twists and Ropz leave on free transfer. Like two blue chip players, bro.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Like two players that are, you know, top five, 100% in their respective roles. Especially with someone like Twists, with the fact that he's in-game leading now, like that could have been down the line once Kerrigan wants to step down or you want to remove him. Whatever is a guy who could maybe...
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Which would have been 17. Yeah.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
fill his shoes right and and and all of that so I think it's just my point wasn't because all people were saying yeah but you know they can't keep him against his will it's like that's not the point it's of course you can't do that it's more from an organizational standpoint like you need to be on top of the contracts really in a way where you're going to okay his contract is expiring are we going to extend them does he want to extend do we want to extend them
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
If it's all yes, then let's do it now because even if a year from now he wants to leave or we want to remove him, whichever way, okay, then someone will have to pay for him. That's why you extend a three-year deal, you renegotiate and you extend after like a year and a half.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
two years at the latest like definitely when it's one year or more left on the contract is when you sort of extend the player to avoid these sort of situations like G2 will have which we'll get into a little bit later but I think just for FaZe it's kind of unacceptable that these two guys like they just leave on free transfer and actually in Twist's situation he was very vocal about it he wasn't necessarily even thinking about leaving FaZe
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Like FaZe was just sort of lazy and didn't manage the situation properly, but it didn't even go to him to offer him anything. Like if they offered him any sort of a contract that's reasonable in terms of conditions, like Twist would have probably signed it.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yeah, he didn't necessarily feel wanted, which probably wasn't true if you talk to anyone on the face roster. Sure. But that doesn't have anything to do with how the organization handles things. So, you know, that was already it. And then with Rob's, I don't think it's much different necessarily, right?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I don't really imagine that, you know, the players on the team or that Kerrigan was like, yeah, I'd like... someone else for this guy. Like even if maybe you feel that roles aren't your point and you need to shuffle some things around, Rob's not going to be the piece that you move from the team.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
And these are guys that in normal situation, if a team wants them and they are willing to leave, you would get a million plus for each of these players. You know, like we're not talking about some dudes who are like, ah, okay, it's a couple of hundred thousand, sticker money covers it or whatever, even though, you know, that's still a lot of money.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
But it was just crazy to me that FaZe sort of let that happen. And listen, they're not known for their esports side of things or esports management side of things at the very least. But come on, man, like... You know, we're talking about two-star players that have just walked on free transfer from your team. You get nothing out of it.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yes, but then you shop him then, right? Like if he doesn't want to extend and he wants out of the team, that's when you shop him around. And you're going to find buyers for Rob's.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I don't remember that. But to answer your question, Jason, to stay for the major cycle, the players absolutely would have liked that because the players don't give a fuck in general. I mean, not necessarily. In the grand scheme, you do care that your org is in good financial standing because it's your financial future as well to an extent, but they don't really care.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
They just want the best team to have at the major. But from an org standpoint, you move them. Because then you're in a situation, right? And also, even if it's like, I don't know for a six-month deal, but for a year definitely you would get a lot of money.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
For six months we've had cases before where teams were not willing to buy out a player, you know, for a significant amount when it's just one season basically left on his contract. Like they were more willing to wait it out despite needing the player or even go for a different option. So...
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I love the bunch of dudes who's talking about like he wants more firepower on the team and the market is like this and that. Yeah. And then you let a guy like that walk away for free. Like, you know, that's the problem is like you guys, if you were on top of your shit, like it wouldn't have to be that way. You would have more if that if the money is the problem, you would have to shop around.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
For me, it's broken. Yeah, I mean, probably as the first guy, I would move as well. But also from what Rob said, that tells you that he wasn't going to continue with the same roster, right? Like him saying more firepower doesn't mean someone instead of me. Obviously, it means he wanted someone on the team he felt like needed to be replaced. I don't know if that's Kerrigan as the captain.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Kind of doubt it, considering Kerrigan's track record in the role has to be either Reign or Brocchi, right? And I don't know what Rob is thinking, but that's probably the two guys, if you're going to make a change on FaZe, that would be your first two options. And it's really hard to say from the outside because...
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
You don't know how much each of the guys does for the team, you know, in outside of the server and all that other stuff, the intangibles and some of the details that you don't necessarily even see transpiring games. So that for me feels like impossible to answer.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
It feels like the situation in which that might happen would be where Ropz is, you know, taking his time, clearing the angles, being, you know, detailed in Apex Legends.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
just go just peak like you know like the timing is now or something along those lines because most of the time you imagine you know you're not gonna complain too much about what ROPS is doing on the server but yeah I think also the issue is but for me the issue was with Vitality with their last roster was They're doing too much stuff.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
They don't do enough default on the T side, but even more so on the CT side. It felt like the reason was they don't really trust their players to do well in default situations, like to have... good reactions and prompt reactions to what's happening on the map. So that's why you set things up a little bit more. You do more things as a team, you group up perhaps a little bit more.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
And ROPS is definitely a help in that department. Even those pinks, it seems like ever since that rumor was he's on his way out, that he wanted out during the middle of the year, he just started playing way better in the second half because he was just not giving a fuck. He was doing what he wanted to do. He was more aggressive because he wasn't aggressive enough before.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
But what worries me is, is that enough of a change for them
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
to change the way they play and play more default and like the two guys obviously that you question are like Flamese and Mezzi in that sort of a scenario where I think Mezzi was good for Vitality I mean it's one of the most versatile players we have in the scene he was an in-game leader for a while so that gives him a little bit of an extra understanding of the macro aspects of the game Right.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
And I think you you have to make that change in terms of your style, if your vitality, if you want to sort of win consistently. Like that's the problem. You look at their year last year, they won Cologne, which is great. One of the toughest tournaments to win. But that was it for the whole year.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Because you couldn't stand in it.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Bro, it's also like we mentioned this about this pro league. The games were earlier to accommodate, you know, the... Rolling schedule too. Yeah, so... Yeah, the dream. So a lot of times we were like done at 2, 3 p.m., right? I don't think the grand final was any different.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
So by the time we get to this quote-unquote after party, like dinner mostly, like a lot of us are just already got a pretty good buzz going on, if not borderline drunk at this point. So we're just like, please, just some food, you know, like we're all sort of like hanging on. And then you just see, it's at that point when he falls into the pool. Just hear a splash.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yeah, and I think also, at the end of the day, the players, you know, which players are going to show up in the big moments and have the big games, right?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Definitely the case if you ask Zonic. But I have one question, though. Where is Pings going to go?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
He also expected, I saw somewhere, he expected a lot more money from these orgs in terms of his contract. Who Jimmy did. You think he got baited by the agent? No, I think he was like, I don't know. But he was expecting to probably get paid a lot more if he moves. And then he saw that that's not the case, probably, except for Falcons.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
And he didn't want to go there unless Montessi also went there and it was a legit team. So then he's like, his contract is like only, what, six months more, a year more, something like that, I think. So he was just like, well, I don't know. This Miles thing is going well. I'll just wait out a little bit more and then...
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
So everyone just like starts, it's just disbelief. It's like, did this really just happen to poor old Blue? Yeah.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I guess Spinks goes to Heroic. Heroic gets Spinks, and then also builds... Yeah, but the team is losing everyone. They're losing everyone. They're losing everyone, that's fair. It could be Shush, Spinks, and a core of some team that they can attend events. There's been stuff murmured about some Pius. Yeah, that could be good for them. But then they have to just...
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Get Madden.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I can't think about this right now. I was going to say this, though. For Heroic, I think then they can make a deal with Falcons. Chad can think about it. Where they sort of say, okay, then we want Simple for this short whatever amount of time. So they do get that core. But Simple's a Na'vi. And then after...
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
already like the loan the loan's over i think so it's just to the end of the major i don't know how it works though if he hasn't played for them and now he just gets loaned out to well he'd need to get loaned from navi to heroic yeah heroic would have to make that deal i think now he would make that deal you know they don't care like they're not going to use them anyway maybe no reason to be afraid of simple going to opposition right now is there
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Basically, I was just trying to say, like, they could maybe manufacture a core that way and then just, you know, Simple can go back to it. It could be like a month loan, a two-month loan, and then they just bring some Pius in for him and then have that sort of full roster. I mean... Honestly...
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
yeah also or come up with a deal yeah snappy you're still under you're still under with falcons we'll trade you heads up kicks in you know snappy or something you went to the to the valve office um for the game can i get a contact from someone from the support team because my boy got fucking scammed bro who I think he's fucked, dog. My boy got scammed. My Nico.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I mean, with a team that he's going to end up having, bro. Oh, fuck. Not that many skins were gone. It's like, no, we don't have any skins. Yeah, I know. I was like, yeah, I can't help you there. That's it. That's it. No, no, no. I'm just like, man, it was supposed to be, what, Jimmy, Monacy, him, Magus. I didn't know who was going to be the fifth or whatever.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Right now he's going to play with fucking Tessus and Dexter. heroic was gonna bench dexter anyway it's like now they're gonna like play him and even like kick sun and tessus are gonna like have to play with him like this is just ass To be honest... It's only temporary, Janko. It's only temporary. You know, when you're wishing for Jambo and you jerks, you know that the fucking times are grim.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
The situation is fucking grim.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
To be honest, I don't care. That's what I was going to say. As long as it's a temporary thing, I don't really...
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yeah, but it's temporary. Falcons have had a year for this shit and they still fucked it up.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Was it Guardian? I think it was Guardian. It doesn't really sound like the type.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
What has me have this sort of weird feeling in my stomach is that this is the absolute worst situation for a team in competitive Counter-Strike.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
to to sort of you know you're going nowhere with the billions of dollars that their organization yeah but it doesn't work like it doesn't work like that like they're all getting into it you know it will get paid at least whatever but that's gonna make the fucking playing miserable right unless they can do some magic juju where it's like turn it in a way where let's just have fun get a hypnotist out there
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
We know it's not going to last, right? But let's just make the most out of it instead of just waiting for it to end.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
But that's why it's the worst. For me, from any team I've been on, it's the worst where you know that changes are going to happen and everyone's kind of aware of it. Whether you address it or not doesn't make too big of a difference in reality. It's very hard to get a lot out of the players in that sort of a scenario.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
And, you know, I disagree when you said that, and a lot of people were saying this, and they're saying, oh, it's Nico's last good chance to win a major, which I thought was crazy for two different reasons.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
One of them was that I felt like the Falcons roster doesn't have to be worse than the G2 roster because, you know, if it were Nico, honestly, Jimmy, Magus, plus one, I don't see why that would be a worse roster than what G2 – has had this major, right? It wouldn't. It probably would be a little bit better.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Obviously, now that that's not the case, I think he's going to have a hard time winning the Austin major.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
You think so? Yeah. Just call it right now. But the second reason for it is more of a long-term thing. Niko is still just 27. Niko is younger right now than Kerrigan was at the Boston Major. And look at Kerrigan's career from the Boston Major up until now.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Look at all the things that he's achieved in the last six years of his career, the big trophies that he was able to live, the 2022 year with FaZe, one of the greatest years we've had in CSGO, right? And all of that stuff. So I don't know why people feel like
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
he's like as if he's at the twilight of his career and he's like on his way down he was struggling at the start of the year in cs2 he seems to have found his form um and absolutely i think he has at a bare minimum, five, six good years left. Dude, fuck his form at the moment.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Did you think, Chad, at the beginning of last year that Madden, like that core, that they were bad players? Madden, Snappy, Sampaio's?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
You always look the same, though, whether you wake up at 5 a.m., 8 a.m., or 9 a.m.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I mean, it's all I'm just saying. I'm saying that the atmosphere that Jason has also been talking about, that can definitely bring down the level of play and the level of the players.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
But look... No, I think... I think he's more stoic nowadays where it's like, hey, this is all part of the big plan.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yeah, but not when you're changing three players. Yeah, but you're not changing all three of them. It's also a matter of how the one guy behaves. And Niko was giving like 110% to G2, you know, and trying to win the major.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
He's had to have had, you know, he should have had a clause or something. Yeah, if you don't get modesty, I bail out. If we don't get, I don't know who, like, you know. Could you imagine? Get out of jail free card.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yeah, you've definitely saved the fucking planet, Jason. Great job, buddy.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Or some people will say it's a centrist podcast. Well, look.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
It's the grand finale. He's showing it to us.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Bro, it was so funny in Belgrade, like at this place at the Belgrade waterfront, like they laid out like two kilometers of fireworks, like long to set off at midnight. But there's been so much fog the last couple of days. It's like the people that are standing across the river to see it, like they could barely even see these fucking fireworks that cost, I don't know how much money.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
And that was just so perfect.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yeah, like the people, you know, like... Did they cancel it or did they still do it? No, no, no. They definitely fired them off.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
New Jersey loved the attention. They couldn't believe it. Yeah. I don't know. I don't really want to get into it. I read something about it. It just doesn't work. Recycling just doesn't really do what it's supposed to. I don't know. Keep going. Keep going. Maybe I got Babylon beat or something. I don't know. But it's like the efficacy of recycling is overstated. Really push it.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yeah, I don't think there's a doubt in that. Just wonder how they handle it in the end. Does like Malb just take over Niko's roles, then Hunter gets his old roles back, and then they have Heavy God to sort of fill in the gaps, be that second anchor on CT side and play a little bit more in the group. I think that would be really strong for them. So a nice little pickup.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Just crazy how sort of Cloud9 just this bad unfolds. I don't know what's going on there. If they will shut down shop or try to build. They should.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Do you think they should try to pick up a new team?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Hmm.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
yeah it's kind of sad for cloud nine didn't really couldn't find can't find success in counter-strike the last five six years or so really ever since the boston major win yeah yeah pretty much hashtag worth so yeah we'll see what they end up doing i think it's always awesome to have an org of cloud nine stature in the scene i hope they don't leave counter-strike again for a while or they might have to temporarily while they'll figure out what it is that they want to do come back to na boys
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yeah, just before we move to that, I just want to say one last thing about the G2 roster. I want for Hunter to take more responsibility for him to sort of be that second voice, right? With Snacks, because you have these younger players, obviously you want to see as the AWPer is going to take a lot of initiative and all of that stuff, but you can't look to Malbz just yet.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I think he's a great prospect, but he needs more experience before he's able to fill those gaps. He definitely can have his moments. At the Major, we saw the good and the bad in the playoffs. And I think with time, there's going to be more of good, less of bad. But that's obviously a process that takes time.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
So excited to see how that goes, how they set it up with this new lineup in terms of the approach. G2 ended the year as the number one team in the world. Like the VRS rankings today, G2 is the number one team in the world still, which is kind of wild and tells you a little bit about...
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
you know the ranking and maybe he needs a little bit more tweaking but just sort of as perspective um for people and then like this whole monacy situation man it's kind of also like is this going to be the roster that gets monacy to extend his contract with g2 i think one more move
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
You just have to play really well and be winning and have a good vibe in the team. Which is not impossible. None of that is impossible. That could happen. It's just... How high are the chances of that? And also, people talk a lot about his relationship with Nico, which is great, and we see it on camera. We see it all the time.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
How big of a difference not being on the same team for six months is going to make? Sure. Is he going to care as much? Is he not going to care as much? Is he going to be like, well, this is just a job now, I guess?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I think it's only a little bit too much because you already have Donk and then kind of in terms of just guys going crazy and YOLO and with their playstyle. I don't know. Maybe just go all in on that and just ride it. More fireworks.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
We probably should. Also, I mean, these sons of bitches... Fuck these companies, bro. So in Serbia, what you used to do is... There was this... It's called like... It was called Chaps a Handicap, which was the top of the bottle, right? And then you would put them, I think, like supermarket places had these, like you would just put the top of it in, you know... whatever jar or something.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I think it's just because you're always hungover when we do these. What was New Year's Eve? I'm not this time. I'm not hungover. In the name of that, happy New Year's, everybody. Happy 2025. Another trip around the sun. We've all made it somehow.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yeah, it feels like Twist has to make that change if he's going to be the IGL in terms of positions on the map, on T-side probably as well. I'm just... play a little bit more to his mechanics, too. Like, he can take some of Jekindar's roles, really, as being the tip of the spear.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
And then what you talked about with nerds being there to sort of trade that and be there to be the second wave of that attack could be very strong for them. You also mentioned, like, Spinks for Hunter. What about Spinks for JKS for Liquid as well? Like, if they want to make another change.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
And then that would be sort of collected, recycled. You would get money back for it or something. And that would go for, you know, humanitarian, you know, reason or funds or like people in Serbia for people who are suffering from a handicap. And then these companies, right. So what they did was because it was easy, like as soon as you opened the bottle, the, the, the core cap came off the cap.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yeah. The cap comes off.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
but then they made them in a diff because the cap is actually like something see i'm going to be wrong here but the cap is like 50 of the recycling of the whole bottle like you know the cap is like a big part of the whole recycle thing so they made it so that it makes it incredibly hard to to rip the cap off right they started making them in a different way so you couldn't do this anymore now every single thing you have yogurt milk
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
That was going to be my sort of... Where are they going? To Paravision? Is that what the rumor is?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I think for Ikinder, it's simple. It's evolve or die, right? You can't be as one-dimensional. You need to be able to expand what you're able to do on the server and also be honest with yourself that some of the things that you enjoy doing and that you were maybe very successful at doing are just not...
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
working anymore right and you just can't pull that stuff off uh on this level of play really and then you need to figure out how you're going to approach all that but you need to because sure the major was a little bit better but in that form it's like has to be sort of
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
a tier two team where he finds his spot and tries to battle back up right like for any of these teams that are at contender level you know they can find better talent out there uh for that sort of a role Yeah. I was just surprised also on Liquid. I was surprised. I wonder was like, because I was surprised that Nerds was even available, right? But then the Falcons thing came out as well.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
So did people like inquire about Nerds? Did Nerds like want to leave? In a sense, like did he reach out to people? And then after that, the Falcons thing happened? Or was there the Falcons thing? Because we know Nerds is not going to Falcons. And then once that sort of started happening is when he looked at things as well.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Coke, water, whatever. It's, you know, like you have to sort of rip it off and so that they could. So people are mostly annoyed by doing it. They don't do it right. They just like open it, whatever.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yeah. Yeah. I don't, I don't know. They need two guys because they bench floppy as well. Yeah.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yo, what about VP benching Jayme, bro? He's been on that team for like 10 years. That's what I was going to go towards. That's not a small thing, Jason.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
You hate on VP so much, you hate on people who used to play for them. That's why you hate Ekinda. You don't hate him for what he's done on Team Liquid. You hate him that he was a part of Virtus.pro. Wait, you know, I'll take... That's so unreasonable.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Train is on the track. It was a train. It's on the track. You're stronger than anything you can run into. Exactly. Except for another train, maybe.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
It's going to be very telling on electronics, like the remainder of his career, in a way. Because if this doesn't work either, or actually if it fails miserably, like the last couple of stints have, then you wonder, like, what's next for him? He went from being, what, the top five player in the world? Definitely a top five rifler in the world, incredible player, great game sense, great mechanics.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
You'd love to have him on your team. It was like, you know, you felt it was impossible. He was going to stay on Na'Vi and play with S1mple forever. That's how good they were. To then, you know, the Cloud9 thing, now the VP thing. It's like, okay, bro, you got it now. The keys of the castle, they're yours, right? You have the reins. It's like, does he have the chops, really, to deliver?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
You know, because there is firepower on the team, like very good one. I mean, Fame and Flit, you go back to 2022 and the Rio Major, I mean, they were a killer duo, man. I feel like one of the issues for the VP team was they moved Fame out of those like roles that he had initially with the team and they moved him around to do a whole lot. He basically by this point did everything except AWP.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
for that team so we'll see how they'll set it up but i mean yeah electronic kind of needs this to work or at least he needs himself not to be the reason why it doesn't work yeah if if this doesn't if this doesn't work i'm gonna start nicknaming uh electronic the trojan horse
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
These are the questions that we need to answer. Why are we talking about recycling, man? It's a new year.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I think maybe... It's your fear, bro. Honestly. Like... Well, actually, for Fnatic, I'm not so sure. I was going to say, like, Hooksy has more experience. I mean, he's won Karowice, he's won Cologne, he's played multiple finals... Like, I think some time to reflect also helps always. And he had success, and people would say, yeah, but he had Nico and Monacy.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Well, he also was on Copenhagen Flames, right, and had some good results with that team and with less talent. So I think... He deserves a shot.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I don't see why you can make an argument, you know, okay liquid doesn't want to get him because Whatever, you know twist would rather do it or some of these tier one teams Maybe feel like individually he's too big of a letdown to to be brought on team or they already have in-game leaders They're pretty set like But then, you know, you're telling me he's not good enough to for fanatic fuck off.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
He definitely is I
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I heard you say, I eat compost myself. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I was surprised it didn't renew a ring on. It felt like.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
You're horny, bro. You want to get in there as fast. You don't want to be playing these academy fools.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Bro, I said this, I think, in the last episode. I think it's just Mag has bought himself three months to a season with the finals performance. And Spirit is like, fine, you know, we'll keep you on a little bit longer. As soon as shit starts going south, they just bring Kyosuke for him. And I don't really care.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I don't really care if they're one for one or anything. Like the kid's 16. He can make some adjustments. They can make it work. A good player is a good player. So they could definitely make it work. And yeah, I think either that happens or someone will get him for a good team to play for them. He's not going to play out the year on Spirit Academy. I wrote this down.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Sorry, and just if Spirit should most definitely promote him during the season or at the end of the season, like at the middle of the year, that's it. It would be crazy to sort of let a talent like that go to another team because then you have like a 17- and an 18-year-old. Yeah, I think you do whatever is needed. 20-something, if you think he's good, whatever.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yeah, same as me. I think team accolades always come first. Like if any successful player or that's aiming to be successful at the very least needs to understand that team comes before anything, right? And individual accolades are a nice little sort of bonus and a tap on the shoulder like if you're doing really well and it's nice to be, you know, if a team wins the major to be the MVP, right?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
sort of of that and be the guy who really helped the team get that trophy but um you you don't care as much you know you would much rather win the win the major and be the worst performer than lose it and win the major mvp somehow if that were let's say possible yeah yeah i think like we're all aligned yeah we all we all have unfortunately not not much debate here
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I'll say I can understand, for example, for a younger player or someone, for one of his wishes to be, let's say, on the top 20 list, because by now it has prestige assigned to it. It's viewed as a prestigious thing in the community, so that's sort of a nod that you've had a good year, that you've improved.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Even though it's tough for me, like someone asked me about, oh, what do you think about the list this year? It's a little bit more controversial now.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I don't really care about it as much I don't want to sound like shitty about it but it's just it's really a lot of it is just based off of stats and sure some of the stats are they take into account big events playoff games all of that but there's still things that we're not taking into account where if you do something based off of stats I you know for me it's not doesn't give you the full picture
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
And it goes by seeing some of the players that are going to be super high up. I made the thing about Shiro in one of the previous episodes where he's going to be 6'5 this year or something like that. Again, I don't think he's that high up. I think he's borderline top 20 player really in a sense because of the things...
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
that he does as an au pair are very sort of specific and he's a player that thrives within a system and is very good for spirit because they have someone like donk and guys who can create space and then a more passive au pair like him can still have his moments but i think you know without donk and someone else on that team
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I think Spirit is a completely different squad, and I don't think Shiro would be the guy that would keep them in the conversation or in contender status, right? I think he can be a pretty decent second fiddle, sort of, but he cannot be the lead player.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
on the server stuff some of the a little bit sort of like emotional personality stuff maybe a little bit but i'm not saying he's a bad player i think he's a good player i just don't think he's top five in the world material right um and yeah that's like what sort of sometimes
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
And also I think probably because the last couple of years it's been so obvious who's the number one, so that kind of just sort of, you know, defeats the suspense. When the suspense isn't there, it takes some of the fun out of it, but... Yeah, I'm with Chad where it's more looking about, oh, yeah, I think this guy is like a really good player. It doesn't have to be on a really good team.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
It doesn't have to be someone who's had a lot of team success. But when you watch a guy play, it can be like, all right, yeah, this guy knows his shit. Like he can play for a better team. Maybe he can hold his own and stuff like that.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
It's actually in Jason right now still.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I want to go have lunch.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
That's it. And next week, we'll have dinner at my place. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a beautiful thing. Yeah, all right.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
All right.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Jace is the same, but I think it's mostly for the slurring speech.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yeah, whatever. Yeah. What did you do last night, actually? Me?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
If we ever did a show about Counter-Strike or anything, I mean, you'd play a role for sure.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I don't want to be up until midnight. If my kid wasn't like four months old, I would have been anywhere but in Belgrade. Like, I hated here during New Year's. It's so crowded. There's so many people. It's impossible to get anywhere. Right. It's like super annoying. All the places are packed. Right. Like even restaurants and stuff, malls, whatever it is that you want to do. So it's better.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
It's best to just get away somewhere. But yeah. Yeah.
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I bet I could do it. That's a great video.
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It's really good.
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There it is.
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Cut it out.
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I would never think that.
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No.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not interested.
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It's got to be.
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That smells really good.
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Where are you running?
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What? Like with the band?
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Yeah.
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I think my issue is...
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I'll just do no audio for you. I'll see if they have cam. No, they have cam, dude. Look. Just let it develop. There's more. There's cam going on.
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Yeah.
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And that's what happened.
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I bet Google gives a shitty answer. Where can I watch White Lotus? All right, googly eyes didn't show up. That's fine.
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I don't hate it at all.
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He said, I was just wondering that now that you guys have answered my queue, am I clear to put this in my IG bio? And it says, at Breadbasket303 co-host. Yeah, that's cool. I just feel that this is necessary in the given conditions.
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I don't know, dude. I'm sorry to hear that, that you have mold growing in a bread hole.
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Really?
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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They get so mushy and disgusting. Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You think so?
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Can you keep... Siri it. I don't do that. Hey Siri. I don't do... Wendy, you really... Can you keep Uncrustables in the cabinet?
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I didn't either, man.
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But dude, that's, it's so awesome to do, to see that happening too. It's like almost makes us more confident now. Oh yeah.
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43. 48. So we played overtime. Oh, because overtime. Yeah.
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But we freaking won.
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That's it.
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That's good, dude. I mean, enjoy the injury, man.
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And he kind of doesn't play that hard on defense.
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Because he just jumps over you. Yeah. Right in his face, fading away.
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Chet, okay.
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That's okay. So we agree on that.
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He's great. He's young. Maybe he could like fill out a little bit, like get a little bigger so they don't like bully him on defense as much. But he's just like so good.
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And J-Dub. They're so good. They are. They're stacked. They got a great future.
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And you're like... Okay, yeah, I see that in Chet, too.
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And he doesn't get the touches.
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They were tired in overtime, though. They're starters for sure.
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Those games are going to happen, and they just lost, yeah.
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Pacers advance to the finals again, conference finals again.
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Yeah, and it seems like he's kind of got that dog. He's annoyed. Brunson has that. I think that's right. Brunson definitely has it. Yeah, Brunson.
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Yeah.
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Oh, my God. If they can win now and Steph comes back, I guess we'd play them.
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Have to. I think we have to.
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Yeah, we would go home.
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That didn't shoot as well. Still though, feels like Jamal. He's a gamer late in the game. He's confident. He's doing the Jamal. Yeah.
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And almost snuck us back in. At the end, I was like, this could be the biggest collapse ever.
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Like it literally could have been the lowest scoring first quarter ever.
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Yeah, I think so too.
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And so then they... Like, none of... It's all just like an... It's almost like a... We put on a show about what they're thinking, and they're just probably not thinking any of it.
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And we didn't know what they were coming into this series. And now we know. It's just a battle.
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We've got some issues.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's a six-man with a little bit of P. Watt mixed in.
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Exactly.
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I do like that move.
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Who else could we have done that with? Maybe a little picket action?
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Is he just not active?
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Oh yeah, because he's just chilling. And he played a little bit in the regular season.
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It really does feel like we're going to lose game five. We're going to win game six. We're going to have a close game seven.
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Yeah, I would like that. If we win game five, I think we win at six. I really do.
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Oh, yeah.
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Lose him the job next day.
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Yeah, not for Yoke, it doesn't.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, we can't. We have no depth. Zero.
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I would be down for that.
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And see if we can forfeit?
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Maybe if we can track down his name. David Edelman, age 66.
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Well, that's the first thing you Google. Everybody can see that.
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So check that out. Shout out to Underdog. Code Breadbasket. Let's get back into it.
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Kind of boring. I think he'll win. Saint Denis is fighting again. Remember, he got beat by Poirier, then he got beat again. He's lost his last two. I would like him to win. He's about to fight right now, walking out.
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I actually didn't look at one of them.
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Tastes kind of like chocolate milk to me. Tastes like chocolate milk, maybe even a little worse.
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Go search. Go searching.
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That height doesn't exist on the board.
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I don't know.
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Crunch, man. He's wafery. He's wafery.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
You can bully him. You can get into his body, right? That's kind of the best way to do it. That's probably the way I'll go, get a rhino or a hippo. A little bit.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Probably a PB vibe.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Rock, paper, scissors.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Fuck you, James.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Suck it.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
We'll go three delicious, three not delicious. To kick it off, we have fresh squeezed lemonade.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
I think it depends on Powerade flavor too. Blue Powerade on a summer day is going to be good.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Right.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
We got Reid Pearden here. He said, they say shooters shoot. Scott Garino, what's up with you?
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Swim around. Yeah, we cleaned his tank.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Scott, swim into the.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Swim into the cup. Scott.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Fun dinner, right? Or annoying dinner. It's tough.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Yeah, so he's in the one. Then you have Stuart Little. You have the four and the five open here.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Oh, he's really, really good defensive animal of the year. Similar. Yeah. He's just got to work the offense again. Similar to spider monkey in that sense.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
It's just something about you, I think. But he was poking.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Okay.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Yeah.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
The Rockies are on pace to lose 135 games this season and break the all-time record for most losses. But by the way, we do have six wins. Let's keep that in mind.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Have a blessed day, gentlemen. If that's real, that's crazy.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
I'm going to look it up. Maybe like the Sky Sox bump up.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Really, really good.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
No, like if you wanted to play football, you could have played football.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Yes.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Yeah.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Yeah, it is.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
That's not your name, dude. And by the way, people think Grape co-signed it. Grape did not co-sign it. In fact, he was appalled by it.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Yeah, no, he hates grapefruit. He's not... He didn't sign off on that. So, fuck you for stealing his name. And then I don't even...
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Yeah.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
They're very strong. Yeah, yeah.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
And if you go out, too, you're hitting a lot of those because you're pissing a lot if you're out.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
I think I'd probably hit them. I think I'd probably hit them. Yeah, 100%. It's hard. But there's so many at-bats.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Yeah.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Like, you want to support what your fish wants to do, right? Exactly. And our fish is passionate about streaming and content creation.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
He is good.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
But he wants to switch to IRL and that type of thing eventually.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
I think so too.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Yeah. He's going to college there.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
We've got Son of Peter here. That's an interesting name.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
And then it looks like he's with Big Milk. He said, this episode is sponsored by Milk. It used to be an account. Now it's in you, Milk. Okay. I love NBA players with strong opinions on soup. This guy's out there, son of a bitch.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Well, you know what? I kind of fuck with it, though.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Can we run that back one more time?
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
I got to do soup NBA.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
So confusing.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
I love NBA players with strong opinions on soup. We could have used a little more transition work.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
To me, it's once that meat's gone. You know what? We just have a condiment here. We just have mustard. That shit's a distant memory to me. But to you, I don't know. So first, the bread. So it's sandwich, right? Mm-hmm. We'll do six inch from Subway.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Okay. So maybe we don't do Subway then.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
So bread, bread, meat, mustard bread. So we take one piece of cheese. Yeah, we can have cheese. So one piece of bread. Is it a memory yet? No, no, just a Sammy.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Yeah. And how do you feel about NBA players that have strong soup opinions?
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Yeah. How does it affect what? Pianos?
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
It affects sales, I think.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Naturally.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
But I'm just saying.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
I get that.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
Well, yeah. And YouTube runs a weird system.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
No, that's a good two. That's a good two. Thank you. Unique player. Unique piece.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
By the way, it wasn't even his best game yesterday, but he kind of didn't overdo it. He was sitting out. He was cheering for the boys. He's...
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Animals For A Basketball Team, Twix Chocolate Milk Taste Test, And Q’s From The Sticks
J-Dub's good as fuck, dude. He's so good. And he's hilarious.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Our Reaction To Super Bowl LIX, Kendrick Lamar's Half Time Show, And Luka's Laker Debut
epi 102 102 didn't want to break your heart hey let's get one thing straight oh do you know the song number eight no oh i was doing didn't want to break your heart but i want to wake up and thank god i go to play the pop mic song mic song 102 didn't want to go around the wrong path Can you imagine?
The Bread Basket Podcast
Our Reaction To Super Bowl LIX, Kendrick Lamar's Half Time Show, And Luka's Laker Debut
Right. That's where your tote sleeps. Yeah.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Our Reaction To Super Bowl LIX, Kendrick Lamar's Half Time Show, And Luka's Laker Debut
100%.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Our Reaction To Super Bowl LIX, Kendrick Lamar's Half Time Show, And Luka's Laker Debut
All right. So what? Okay.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Our Reaction To Super Bowl LIX, Kendrick Lamar's Half Time Show, And Luka's Laker Debut
2024, 2025.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Our Reaction To Super Bowl LIX, Kendrick Lamar's Half Time Show, And Luka's Laker Debut
51.4.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Our Reaction To Super Bowl LIX, Kendrick Lamar's Half Time Show, And Luka's Laker Debut
What's the one that's like... Beautiful big titty, don't fall from the sky, you know? Beautiful black and big titty, don't fall from the sky, you know?
The Bread Basket Podcast
Our Reaction To Super Bowl LIX, Kendrick Lamar's Half Time Show, And Luka's Laker Debut
Okay, Linda.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Our Reaction To Super Bowl LIX, Kendrick Lamar's Half Time Show, And Luka's Laker Debut
You won.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Our Reaction To Super Bowl LIX, Kendrick Lamar's Half Time Show, And Luka's Laker Debut
Yeah, he had enough.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Our Reaction To Super Bowl LIX, Kendrick Lamar's Half Time Show, And Luka's Laker Debut
32.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Our Reaction To Super Bowl LIX, Kendrick Lamar's Half Time Show, And Luka's Laker Debut
I'm sick of it. Okay, dude. Cut it out.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Our Reaction To Super Bowl LIX, Kendrick Lamar's Half Time Show, And Luka's Laker Debut
Again. Again.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Our Reaction To Super Bowl LIX, Kendrick Lamar's Half Time Show, And Luka's Laker Debut
I like cheese.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Our Reaction To Super Bowl LIX, Kendrick Lamar's Half Time Show, And Luka's Laker Debut
Oh, yeah.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Our Reaction To Super Bowl LIX, Kendrick Lamar's Half Time Show, And Luka's Laker Debut
You love chicken, dude.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Our Reaction To Super Bowl LIX, Kendrick Lamar's Half Time Show, And Luka's Laker Debut
All right.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Our Reaction To Super Bowl LIX, Kendrick Lamar's Half Time Show, And Luka's Laker Debut
And I'll sit down.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Our Reaction To Super Bowl LIX, Kendrick Lamar's Half Time Show, And Luka's Laker Debut
It's like didn't want to break your heart. Make a change.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Our Reaction To Super Bowl LIX, Kendrick Lamar's Half Time Show, And Luka's Laker Debut
100%.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Our Reaction To Super Bowl LIX, Kendrick Lamar's Half Time Show, And Luka's Laker Debut
I didn't know.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
He's like, that's how it fuck.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
It's Marshmallow's face. He's a good looking guy. Okay, Marshmallow.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
I mean, I don't know if that's him. It looks like Marshmallow revealed his face on stage.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
I think he loves it, to be honest with you.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
I don't know. I don't understand that.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
I don't know.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
Okay, you got by staying up all eight days. I've got by drinking a lot of coffee. He sleeps at night.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
That's so good, though.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
Subtract one.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
Okay.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
I'm a person, a bird, and a fruit. This is very gettable.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
Three things.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
McDonald's ads.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
Get a Mad Lib.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
Now I'm getting confused. Is an animal a thing?
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
Yeah.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
Yes. Fuck. Yeah.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
I'm trying to chill, Lib. I almost crashed out on that. Okay, fine. All right.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
I am not.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
Adjective.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
I don't hate it, but girls hate it.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
I don't know.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
No. That's good. Adverb. I have no idea.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
Aggressively. Person in the room. Male.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
No, I was. It's just a person. No, no, no.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
If anybody wants this.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
Love that commercial. Yeah.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
Okay.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
This is some crazy shit, man. Caleb Yost is writing in. He said, just heard a cover of Breadbasket by Quinlan, but they changed the words to Silver Bells. Crazy world we live in.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
Exactly.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
Dan Man and Trent had to scream that so he could hear me from you know where. Attic. Yeah. I've got quite the question for you.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
I'm keeping that spider. Yeah.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
What do we do? What do we do? What do we do? Hey. Hey. What do we do? What do we do? Hey. What do we do? What do we do? I'm in the mood.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
Yeah.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
Yeah.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
Yeah, I got nothing else.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Commercials, Kai Cenat Wraps Mafiathon 2, Jack Harlow Covers Elvis, And We Do Mad Libs
I love everything about those little tootsies. Yeah, me too.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
Yeah, it's about like whatever.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
Yeah, economics. There's a lot that goes into it.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
A lot of 50-point games for James Harden.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
What is it? Seven, eight, 15 seconds. Nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14. Anthony Davis. Good guess.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
Solid? Whoa. All right, dude. All right. All right. All right.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
What are you talking down on canines? You're talking down on hounds now?
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
Yes. He almost got his trunk caught, but then he ended up fighting through it. Well, he got out. Yeah, he got out of there. Head motion. So yeah, we both got the elephant there. Then to wrap it up, Zach. I mean, you're high on the, the mass rider out of Texas tech. You're high on that guy.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
I mean, if he's bringing something like that, I'm going to go mass rider as well.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
That's what you have. I felt bourbon.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
Let's get into it, man. I mean, it was nice today.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
We know Ham, and I want to defend Ham.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
Legal.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
Threats.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
Why do you have to say that?
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
Okay. That's my answer. Your answer's ham.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
Yeah.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
100%.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
Yeah, they do have similar vibes. And then this was his funny joke. He has Dalton because Dalton's not real.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
Yeah, good. That's a callback. Yeah, that's a callback. That's a good joke. Sorry, Dalton. He didn't know you were coming. You got to go on the floor. But if you would have known, he obviously would have put you in the one. And you are real.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
It's Photoshopped, dude.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
Maybe I'm palsy... Yeah, I don't know.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
Oh, good.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
Yeah.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
See how it feels.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
Oh, I don't. I don't. I don't have an answer. I think I don't.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
Whoa.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
Wow.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
Sign me up.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
I'm sorry. Max, I'm sorry, dude. I'm sorry, man. That's on us. That's on us, right? That's on us. I mean, that's not funny, right?
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
Mini meatballs are cool.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
I don't. I need it. I agree to disagree on that one.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
I don't agree to disagree. I disagree. Meatball with a little sauce is a great topic. I disagree to disagree. A little appetizer, a little hors d'oeuvre. I disagree. I'm right. I disagree to disagree. I am right on this one.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
And we can agree on that.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
I disagree with disagreeing to disagree to disagree. You're making this too complicated. I think we can agree to disagree.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
LVP, least valuable player, Shea.
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Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
No, no.
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Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
Jamal and MP?
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Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
Ernie the Squishmallow.
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Why not?
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Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
118.
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No, he would say he's a bearded turtle.
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Draft Of Beards, The Final Four Is Set, Sour Patch Kids Drama, And Q's From The Sticks
He's dead.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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episode 113 wow nice good for us good for us episodes that's like it's like we've done like probably at this point we've probably done a hundred episodes yeah we have we have we're already at 113 at least um yeah we just got a standard mvlb rooks he confessed skis yeah but i got a stat i got a fun stat actually really it's gonna be a good time yeah it's gonna be a good time today i kind of want to lead off with the stat let's lead off with the stat
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And he said, well, where's your key? And I said, I don't know. I lost it. And he said, well, where is it? And I said, if I knew, I would have it. Did you say that? Yeah. And then he said, oh, well, if you ever need a key, just holler at me. And I said, I need a key. So did you say holler? No, I said. You said holler. I said, oh, can I have a key? And he said, oh, I don't have one.
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I got it. I got this brother. Maybe I'm going to give you two lives. I'm going to give him two lives. Number one is views. Correct. I knew you'd get that. I'm not going to be worried about it. And it's best selling, by the way. It's not necessarily best streaming. And it's not first week? All that shit. Well, that's part of, obviously, the sales, but it's not necessarily best first week sales.
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And then I just said, okay. But I thought he told you to holler. That's what I'm saying. So then I walk out. I don't lock the door. And he's like, well, you need to lock the door because people steal shit. But I don't have a key. And he's like, well, where is it? I don't fucking have it. Is that actually what happened? But then he's like, you need to lock it. I'm like, I can't lock it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's like, why? I'm like, well, I don't have the key. He's like, where is it? Well, I lost it. And then he said, I want to follow him if you need one. And I said, can I have one? He said, oh, I don't have one. So, hey, Bald, don't do all this. Don't get all like that. You know what I'm saying? He's trying to be all. Don't, don't, don't, don't. Just get out of here, Bald.
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Yeah, yeah. Come on. Yeah, I get that. Have you gotten a key? Yeah, and I just put an air tag on it. Wait, so where did you get a key from, Bald? It actually, one time, I just showed up. This is another funny thing.
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nano answered the door and he said i talked to bald yeah and bald who fully knows my name and like we've we talked face to face yeah went up to nine and he goes oh zach here's your key it's just we're different maybe he's got maybe he's like i don't know but like you went oh what up zach good to see you here's your key he just took it and gave it to me that's funny oh that's funny stuff
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Uh, my LV, I mean, I, I gave this guy an LV. I kind of just wanted to talk about him, but so I just gave an LV, LV SP, least valuable soccer player, a guy from soccer. That guy was hilarious. Yeah. There's this guy we played, uh, and he just like really was like talking aggressive shit to like Nino and like everybody like really mean stuff to the whole team.
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I said, like, that's not a foul, Big Dog. And he kept, like, asking everybody on our team who said Big Dog. You touched a sore subject there. Yeah, he really didn't like Big Dog. And then he was just shitting on our whole team. But he was the worst player ever, dude. I don't know. I kind of thought he was doing a bit.
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Yeah, like he just talks shit to everybody, like a Draymond get under everybody's skin. Yeah, kind of like if Draymond's talking shit to LeBron. Yeah, but then how Draymond kind of doesn't have the sauce offensively. He's just playing a role. Yeah, and I thought he was doing that, but I don't think he was. Yeah, I don't really know what was going on. Honestly, I respect it.
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I love, like, a guy that... Because... It's fun to, like, kind of, like... It's kind of fun. Just to mess around with that guy throughout the game. And it's like, I don't want to start it, but, like, it makes the game a little bit more fun because everybody's trying a little harder because there's a guy... Oh, yeah, dude. Like, when we would score, I'd get really pumped. Yeah, yeah.
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You know what I'm saying? When I dished that one off to you and you scored it, I was like... Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But that guy, like, honestly, just didn't have the goods to make it even, like, a fun argument. And we just beat him, like, 8-2, and it was just...
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I will say, first week is usually indicative, right?
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dude but chip listen to play uh devil's uh devil's uh i'm in a pinch devil's uh devil's uh math no it's not devil's tutor devil's tutor yeah devil's tutor to play devil's tutor
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it's not fun when we kill a team imagine how not fun it is to get killed and you're talking shit though yeah but getting killed sucks just so like like it's just so not fun and they're getting destroyed down like seven two like they didn't they didn't oh that would not be that would not get it i get why you're like really annoyed like that sucks yeah that does suck
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Oh, that's way worse than killing somebody. Way worse. Because when you're killing a team, you kind of ping it around, maybe score, but then you only score cool goals. Yeah, imagine being just, you just play defense and it doesn't work. Yeah, that would suck. Yeah. Rookie. Oh, my rookie is just going to be like shorter hair. Oh, good. I like having shorter hair.
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Because I just like don't wear my hat a lot and I just like. You don't even use that shit up there. I don't, dude. And it's like, uh, when it's long, it's like, if I don't do it, if I don't do it and shit, it's like going to just be crazy when I take my hat off. But now it's like, I'll just kind of, I'm not like not wear a hat.
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It's very indick, yeah. Super indicky. Super indicky. Intradicky. It's usually very intradick. Intradicky. Yeah. Scorpio. No. Oh, come on. I'll give you three lives. So this is what I mean. You have to get them all in order. So you might just, you might just get stuck. Scorpio is, I disagree, man. I'll give you that Scorpio is up there. But no, but I don't know. Second life.
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Your solutions are get a haircut, maybe start braiding it. Yep. Maybe get a perm. But it seems like you just did the cut. I just did the cut. I thought about the perm specifically.
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By the way, most people have perms. You know that? No. Not most. That's just such a false. You said that and then you said, do you know that? No. That's my bad. Listen, I don't... That was like a... What I meant to say was... That was like Google AI, which is really fucking wrong. We've talked about it. Google AI is fucking... You're wrong every time. Terrible.
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By the way... Told me Yoke had six MVPs today when I was doing the Connect 10. And then I found that he had seven.
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that's a little bit what or uh oh yeah uh that is almost scarier or like kind of weirds me out more than if it just got it right because that means it's just like a guy in there being like i'm gonna give i'm just gonna like fucking get like i don't know he doesn't know clearly because he's asking me i think he just like scans articles what but like no article is saying he's wrong a six-time all-star instead of a seven you know what i'm saying like it might just be like a guy a
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yeah that's what i'm saying like it's just a robot who's like not that smart maybe he's like still in like high school yeah like yeah you just like or he's just like he's hung over and he's just like i don't this that's the thing is i think in google ai's that is kind of creepy actually he's like he's asking me so he doesn't know and he's not and in most cases they're just gonna believe me especially like we're the only case that it matters yeah yeah yeah and it doesn't even actually matter but like well we kind of have to have it right or everybody be like you're fucking wrong
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Well, we know right away when Google AI f***s us over. Because they'll put it up and it'll be like, Yoke has seven all-stars. Yeah, those are the comments. Or it's like, it's always like something about like a superhero or something.
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We don't have great knowledge. Thor's actually 6'4". Thor's actually 6'4". Or whatever.
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There's four Iron Man movies. You know what will happen is like how many Harry Potter movies are there? oh classic so many answers classic how many books are there somehow there's like not the right answer every time we do it it's we're wrong yeah yeah but yeah I don't know how we got there but my rookie's short hair Oh yeah. More people than you think have perms. Okay. Um, okay.
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So I'm going, what's your, I don't have a confess. So you could do rookie. My rookie is knee pain and I'm happy to have him back. Um, you have knee, you have knee pain. You have knee pain after soccer.
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But it was like, it was like in a fun way. Oh, that's good. Like in a soreness way. Yeah, well, I was just like, whoa. My knees hurt? I was like, wow. My knees hurt after physical activity.
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I was like, whoa. That's dope. Would you look at that? That's dope shit, dude. Yeah, it was cool. It was cool. Yeah, and listen, will it affect leg days, perhaps? Yeah, that's sick, though. That doesn't matter. Who cares?
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Both knees? Just left. Very cool. Very cool. Yeah. Left knee.
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No, I had a good time. I had a good time. That's sick.
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Yeah, good for you, man. Good for you. Confession. We drank a little at the UFC. I never achieved a buzz. I didn't really achieve a buzz either. At all. And I didn't feel anything in the morning either. I had an hour there where I was dead. Yeah, what happened? You think that was... What happened? I think I was... I think we drank and I think I was dehydrated.
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Like, I think I didn't drink any water and we drank. But yeah, when we were like... When we got off the plane through like the car ride to like before soccer, I was like f***ing dead. I was like, I can't play soccer anymore. Really, really bad headache only on my left side. A lot of my eye for some reason and then like upper left. Really bad headache. I get that all... That's where I live.
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I always get like an eye. Yeah, it sucked. But so you caught hangover? No, I caught nothing. I caught nothing at any... Like, I didn't... It's like I just had, like, seltzers. Oh, no buzz, I'm saying. No buzz, no hangover. It's like, what? What? Well, we didn't drink a lot. I know, but I also haven't drank in, like, two months.
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It's because we did it over a long time, and the hangover, I don't think we deserved a hangover. I think that was on me. Oh, we didn't. Danny, I didn't, but I'm almost like... Did I buy a faulty beer? You didn't catch any?
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But dude, you're dancing around. Take care. Take care is in the two. And then it goes Scorpio. Scorpio's in the three. And then it goes. Nothing was the same. Nothing was the same as in the four. So now you got to go five through 10. You only have one. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. I know. I see what you're doing there. Yeah. I see what you're doing there. I played a game for William Wesley.
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Nothing, man. Nothing. Nothing. No like third round of a fight you kind of like. No. Nothing. I don't think I did either. And I'm pished about it. Yeah, I'm kind of pished, too. We have, what, two tall boys and a Vakatani. I deserve it. No buzz? Oh, please. Oh, please. Oh, please, man. I deserve some. Well, some, some. Yeah, that sucks, man. Yeah, no. Yeah, it was tough to go through.
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But, you know, at least I guess the hangover didn't. No hangover. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we didn't deserve that. I didn't deserve that, man.
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And I didn't get enough reward for a fucking slight hangover. We didn't catch a buzz, man. No, no. Do we go into queues? Yeah. Do you have any news? I mean, we just talked. We just talked news. I think Stick just sent me like a really random video, and I was like, this is kind of funny. Okay.
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Oh, yeah. This young gentleman, it's his first ever full combo of Through the Fire and Flames at 200% speed. This took nine months and 50,000 attempts. So it's just like a big athletic achievement. Holy shit. And he sounds good, too This is unbelievable.
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That's exactly how you should react. Yeah, that's how you should react. You did it live on stream. Look at the top guy. He's going to be like his girlfriend. Yeah. Yeah, there it is. Is that what you were thinking? Something like that. That's dope, dude. Congrats, man. No, that is really cool. Congrats, Carney Jared. Maybe we start fucking playing some, what is that, guitar?
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Oh, Guitar Hero, when we were that age, was sick. I don't know how young that guy was. When we were young. When we were like 12, I thought Guitar Hero was sick. I mean, it's still sick, and I think ladies love it. Yeah, they definitely love it. Didn't we get like rock band too? I think Liv used to play, like drums. Chicks. Chicks dig rock band. Yeah, they do. Chicks dig Dance Dance Revolution.
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They fucking love that. They go crazy for that. That one, if you, listen, my suggestion is if you play Dance Dance Revolution or if you get good at it, that is. Yeah, don't do it if you're not good. They can tell that you're a poser. Well, what I was going to say, though, is invest in a shield or maybe security. Because you won't be able to get them away.
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The chicks are going to be coming for your throat. If you can crush a dance dance song.
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If you could do dance dance rev, especially like if you could do it, not only just if it's at like a Dave and Buster's, but if you got the mat.
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You can never change. OK. I mean, what's going to be next? It's like going to probably be CLB. That'll do it. I think it was up there with streaming CLB. Shit. Five was More Life. That was just his prime of just like... Probably his prime. Prime Drizzy on the rise vibes. Then it was If You're Reading This. Then it was Thank Me Later. Then it was CLB. Then it was What a Time.
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A specialty mat. They love that, dude. Oh yeah, if you bring it back and you whip out the specialty mat. And you do specialty mat. And you start doing your shit. Yeah. Yeah.
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how about those how about the ones when you gotta like go like this by the way you don't have to like we used to always do it where you have to cross i know but you don't have to do that you have to go like that we would do this because we respected the sport dude we would just come downstairs and like you would be doing it that's so fucking funny What was that, Wii or something?
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Why did you skate? Is that kind of summer? Because I rapped with it. You skated and went off ramps in the back. Don't worry about it, man. I liked skating. I think you were like 12. I don't think you were an 8. I think you were like 14. No, I wasn't 14. 12, maybe. I was probably 11. Yeah, and you would just skate. But I didn't. I'd come home from school, and you'd be like, oh, shit.
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learn it though dude like i i i really wish i could skateboard we never actually figured out how to skateboard and by the way we told it was a shoes thing and it wasn't dude no it's just uh it's just not our thing i don't know i couldn't ollie i've never truly all the only one i could do is the fake kickflip and flip the fucking board i'm gonna flip it up dude but people in cali skateboard
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Yeah, they kind of do, huh? Like I remember first time I got to college, it was like a bunch of the dudes on my team like skateboarding. But it was like cool because it's like. It's kind of a cool – I can see Nino being a skateboarder. Does he not skate? I can see him riding a lawn board. I don't think so, but I think if you grew up in Cali, you can just skate.
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And I wish I could do it, and I can't.
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It is what it is. It is what it is. It is what it is. Should we just go into queues here? We can just go into queues here. All right, we got – I mean, he didn't want to – I have to – it's going to be public, VanVleet. I have to show your name. It's Brad VanVleet. Oh, by the way, should we unveil the poster? Yeah, let's unveil it. We don't have it up on the wall yet, but Van Vliet.
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It's going to be right behind us. I think he sent this for Epi 100. We're going to get this up on the wall. Epi, Epi 100.
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Van Vliet's been with us for a while. By the way, I think this. This? Yeah. I'm not holding my mic. I don't. This what puts them up there in the MVP? MVB.
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Breadstick. Oh, yeah. Well, isn't it one word? I don't know. Yeah, I think so. It's just going to go right here. And if you guys want to send us stuff, feel free. If you guys want to send us stuff, feel free. We do not have a PO box and we're not going to give you an address, but feel free to send us stuff. No, you could send. I'm just kidding.
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If you want to send us something, probably just like DM us and we'll tell you where to send it. But it's got to be something really good. Like that was dope from Van Vliet. If you want to send us something fun like that, DM BB and then either Zach or I or both of us and we could make something work. We should get a PO box eventually. But you said it's like a weird thing.
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with PO it's not weird and it's the only thing that's throwing me off is PO boxes are why did I say it like that you said it like mom would say it PO boxes yeah PO boxes it's like this big yeah how are you going to send us a box of cookies Oh, a P.O. box and like a little... A P.O. box is like a little mailbox. Maybe we should get a cubicle. But you know what? Not a cubicle, a storage unit.
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I actually did a bit of research. So what happens? Yeah. You go to your P.O. box. And they have it somewhere else. Yeah, you open your P.O. box and there's little slips. And if you get like 20 packages, you give... And they have a big storage thing in the back. You go to them and you say, I got these slips. They give you all your packages.
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box soon. Let's get a P.O. box. I'm going to get a P.O. box tomorrow. And you're going to get a soundboard. I'm going to get a soundboard and he's going to get a P.O. box. If by next... Brotherly... Okay, so if... By the way, brotherly. If we don't do this, what is the... I don't even know. I think you could chop the other person's head off with a sword. It will never get there.
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It will never get there. Because we've never... We've never... What's the word?
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Then it was So Far Gone. So Far Gone was the debut, correct? Uh, yeah, let's think so far gone. Yeah. He had like some weird ones that, yeah. What was like the OG that like, wasn't like, I think it was his first woman.
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We've never lied. We've never...
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not done a brotherly we've never we've never failed yeah maybe failed we've never failed a brotherly so it won't we will get a soundboard we will get a PO box a PO box and you guys this is your first time seeing a true brotherly in real time we will have it so you can trust a brotherly so that's how it goes we gotta remind each other because yeah we have I think we might both have a short term memory loss
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especially on the pod dude like there's there and i was thinking i think we might both have um and it's funny you know it always is funny but anytime somebody like sees if somebody comes up in public and asks me about something that we did it's like i don't remember yeah forget i don't remember but i like it sounds it sounds good that sounds like us and you just have to go with it yeah yeah
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But what did Brad even say? Oh, so he wanted it to be in confidence because he's really insecure about this, I think. But Van Vliet's going to be up on the screen, so they all know it's him. I'm afraid to ask anyone else, but what does nonetheless mean? Seems like three random words put together. I hope this question is kept in confidence. That's a great f***ing question, actually. Nonetheless.
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But it is nonetheless. To me, it's a variant of however. But it is however. I know. Nonetheless, he's still going to win the MVP. Yeah, however, he's still going to win the MVP. But what is none? Let's break down none. Yep. In spite of that. But why? In spite of that, it's a definition. Nevertheless. But I think, Danny, let's be on Brad's side here, okay? Don't just treat Brad like he's an idiot.
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It's not that hard, Brad. Danny. It means however, dude. No, Brad is being... Just do a little bit of research, Brad. It's not that hard. Bread didn't even want this to be a thing. And now this is why. And this is why, by the way. Yeah. Because you're making fun of, you're taking the piss out of bread. Yeah. My bad. My fault, Brett. Can we break this down for a second? None. Okay, none is here.
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Brett, do you know what none means?
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That's Cole. So far gone. Must've been. Yeah. But, but I get what you're saying. So far gone. I think it was his first label. He's got some shit like that. I'm gonna find it. What was Drake's first mixtape? I know it's like a, it's like a, it's like him. And it's like a gold bronzes. Yes. Cover. I've never listened to anything off that tape. Room for improvement.
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I'm just having a little bit of fun with this Van Vliet guy. Well, Brett, first of all, he's not trying to have fun right now. He actually was just trying to come to us in confidence. Okay.
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I'm done. None. Means none.
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So none. Nothing less. None with the less. It's nothing less. So yeah, in spite of. Nothing less. That makes sense, in spite of. It doesn't really. It is a weird, like who, what developer made that word? WME.
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Oh. Yeah. Okay, WME made it. So that's interesting. It's an industry plant. It's because I know WME reps none. WME reps less. I thought the was with UTA. No. Oh, that was with WME? WME. Who's less with? WME. Okay. So they did like a Simon Cowell build like a boy band thing. And that was the vision. And that word never got as big as any of them are really on their own. Because it wasn't organic.
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yeah it wasn't you can you could feel that for sure there's no chemistry there yeah none of those words like even know each other's parents none of those words uh would could say each other's middle name but like a word like uh you put a bunch of syllables like inquisitive together you could feel that's organic right well you could feel the love knows in quiz well well yeah yeah they're like brothers um but yeah that there's i guess your answer bread but i'm still confused as well yeah
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We got The Fever writing in. He's just kind of complaining. He said, I'm pissed you guys just straight up retired Riddle Me Sticks and didn't say anything about it. That guy was a valuable man. I hate to see him not get any credit for what he did for the sport. Well, we said something about it. He was just a f***ing wild, wild drunk deck. He was a drunk. He was a drunk.
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He was one of the most gifted segments we've ever had come through this podcast. Dude, I agree. But he was a drunk. We could bring in a variation of Riddle Me Stick, right? A sober variation that's going to show up on time. By the way, our pods, we were filming days late. We were filming like having to punch it. Like this guy's a drunk. He's a drunk. And that's not okay.
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Listen, you could do that on your own time. You can't do that on the podcast. No, you can't. And that's where, when we flip Thursdays, some of them would be a little raunchy.
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They'd be smart-ass. A lot of time, yeah, a lot of smart-ass stuff, a lot of just straight-up jokes where we... We said. We made sure your riddles... Okay, you're a riddle deck, sir. This isn't a stand-up Netflix special. No, this isn't joke time with Riddle Me Stick. No. Right? This is serious, man. This is serious. But the thing is, again, his Netflix specials are funny. Exactly. He's funny.
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He's talented. There's a time and a place. Yes. All right? You're not on stage. No, you're not. You're being a deck. Yeah, you're being a deck. Well, I will say we could get a more buttoned up, maybe like a booklet. Yeah, yeah. Mad Libs is actually, surprisingly, a very buttoned up guy. He's been good.
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I don't think he has as much sauce as Riddle Me Stick, though. You've got to find that balance. That's the cool thing about Riddle Me Stick, man, is Riddle Me Stick's going to do the work for you. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Madlib's asking for help, and there's nothing wrong with that. He's an outline. He hates that word, but he's a guidelines guy. He's saying, you give me the answer.
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Which is cool, right? It's fine. It's consistent. Right. It's fundamental. But I want you to get... I want a guy like Riddleby Stick. He's giving off the content here. You know what I'm saying? But he couldn't take care of his shit.
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That's so like the one.
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He's done.
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And we're not retiring his deck right now. No, no, no. He's gone. I think he's actually in the garbage. He's gone. Yeah. This one comes from Carson. I just see there's a lot of words here, and I'm going to read them. I haven't really read through this. Okay. Just fair warning. He says, what up, crack and fanny? That one doesn't get old. That one's funny.
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Yeah, dude. They, all the rappers have that first one like that. I feel like they don't anymore. No, but like J Cole and them. Yeah, they did. Yeah. And I don't really even understand that. Like, it's crazy. I don't even really understand how musicians got big back in the day. I don't even get it. I think you, like, had to. I think you had to get discovered. No, but how do you get discovered?
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And he spent some time on it. He said, and no, that wasn't a typo. Cheeky little buttocks joke. Yeah, it's funny, dude. Butt jokes are funny. Fart jokes are funny. Ha, did it again there. So he's having fun. I mean, I'm dead. Carson's having fun. I'm dead over here, man. Did you guys catch that? Oh, sorry. I kind of stomped on that one. My bad. Yes, we did catch it. Good stuff. What, the joke?
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Well, he said cheeky little buttocks joke. Oh, I did it again. I didn't even think about cheeky.
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Really good. Really good. Okay. Anyhow, I was writing in because I'm starting to get reports from inside sources that Trent has escaped the attic. And I was just checking in with you guys to see what you had to say about this. Did he really escape? And if so, why did he? I thought he loved the attic. Okay, thanks. I love Josh Allen. Josh Allen's got so much money. A lot of money.
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So awesome to be him. Yeah, good for him. All of the money. I think all of the money. He's really rich. I think every dollar in the world, I think... If you take all the dollars, half of them are in Josh Allen's bank account. I think I saw the deal. It's 40% of all global dollars. Yeah. So essentially, almost half. Which is really awesome. 40% of all global currency. I would say well-deserved.
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Yeah. Trent, I mean, we've never... Trent's not a hostage. No. It's like he loves the attic. There's nowhere to escape from. Yeah, I think he's just in Mexico or something. I think he just went on vacation. It's spring break. By the way... It is spring break. Trent's a little younger. He's a little bit younger. I think he's 20 now. Yeah, and he has one other friend that he's met on Xbox Live.
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Right. I think they're going to meet. Yeah. Like another attic friend or something. But he's not... The thing that he's a hostage, he f***ing loves the attic. He didn't escape. Don't paint that narrative that he escaped. It's not... No, there's no, escape paints it in a bad light.
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I think that's a bad narrative. No, it is. It's just not, it's a false narrative. You could say he escaped being bored and now he's hammered.
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In Mexico. In Mexico with his Xbox Live buddy. Yeah. And he's buns up kneeling somewhere. Yeah, he is. That's exactly what he's doing. I don't know what buns up kneeling even means. I don't know either, but that was dope. I've never heard anybody. I've never heard anybody say that.
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Buns up kneeling. No idea, dude. That could be really like dirty. It sounds dirty.
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Buns up. But it doesn't, it sounds like an old phrase that like. Should I look it up? They said on like SNL. What do you think it means? If you get it exactly right. Buns up kneeling. If you get it exactly right. Buns up. So your ass is up and you're kneeling. That's where I like, is it like a weird sexual thing? I think it is. So maybe don't look it up.
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When a man or woman gets down on all fours and sticks his or her ass in the air prior to being or during intercourse. There it is. Oh, sex joke. Oops. Oh, the girl is buns up kneeling. No, man or woman. Well, yeah. I guess it depends on what you're doing.
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yeah definitely more more of a girl thing so i don't i don't i think he's i think he's straight i don't i don't think he's buns up and then here's ai this ai is probably just like i don't know i think he's just like watching severance stretching he said buns is a slang term for buttocks and knees up is an informal british term for a party that's what he gave me shut up ai shut the oh my god dude just stop answering just stop seriously like that did not help us didn't help me at all
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really is it that fun it's i think you'll have a great time man scale from one to fun what is it on your scale on the zacky fun scale on a scale from one to fun it is a little bit yeah let's just stick with your scale because your scale is like it was like colors and then like yo-yo yo-yo is one of the things yeah and then it's like no naturally yeah and by the way and by the way
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This one comes from Hayden Thomas, and honestly, I don't know if I have time for this right now. Go ahead. He says, pronounce these. Please, tease, lease. Why is lease different? Why can't lease change? He's pissed about the word lease. So why does he do the ease thing? I don't, dude, honestly, Hayden, though, like, I don't know. Like, I really, like, don't have the answer.
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I think it's, like, people. You do, like, an open mic and there's, like, a talent agency. I think, like, shows maybe. And then I also think you have to, like, organically, like, go viral on YouTube or something. Or, like, SoundCloud, go viral. SoundCloud, yeah, that was good. But you had to, like, just go viral. It's so crazy. Like you, it was so, you're so chosen back then if you, if you get it.
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Usually, yeah, with those words, like, that do weird pronunciation, you have to get to another story. It's usually, like, they, like, he probably grew up around a bunch of pleases and shit, and he's like, I'm going to do something different. Like, I know Bologna. Yeah. Is, like, he had a f***ed up thing. I know, right? But I know, but, like. So I'm going to do Bologna with a weird spelling.
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I think it's important to, you know, get to know these, these words as more than just their pronunciation, their pronunciation. You know what I'm saying? Like, and like, you think we should look at him as Lee's like, well, we see before he switched. Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think, and by the way, like I might, I might call him Lee's sometimes.
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Oh, yeah, I don't subscribe to their wanted pronunciation. That's not how language works. No, you do what you got to do. But, yeah, I don't think we have to get angry at him, right? Yeah, you're like begging him. It's like shaking him to change. That's not how we're going to do it. That's not the right way to do it. Maybe we gaslight him into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree.
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If we all just start saying Lee's. Yeah, but he might have like an identity crisis. 13-month Lee's? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got a new Lee's on life. Yeah.
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I think if we all started saying, if all of us. I don't want to f*** with Lee's head too much. But can I ask you this? This is a hypothetical. That maybe we could try. If we all want to f***ing put our heads together and do it. I don't know why the f***ing got into that. Oh, like actually try and change your pronunciation? If everybody here right now. That's watching? Watching and us. Yeah.
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Pronounced it Lee's. For the rest of our lives. Yeah. Do you think we could get it a ripple? I think we could get a little bit of a ripple. Is that the word we want to do it on?
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that's why i'm i'm not like i'm not fully sold on that one but like i kind of want it to be a more common one but like but like it's i don't want it to be like wednesday no because that's at least might be it lees is pretty well we're gonna hold off for now but i think at some point we should like look into making we should look yeah and then and then years later if you start hearing somebody say lees you're like we did that i remember we could do that like we changed the world
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Yeah. I like the word Lee's word. She's got chills. We could really do something. We could. I like this from Rubus Bubus. Or Rubus Bubus. Whatever. You know what I'm saying? Either way, it's dope. I like what you have going on over there. He just wanted to jump in on the that's what's up, what's up with that.
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He said, when you recognize a taste and finally figured out what it tastes like, that's what's up.
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I love everything about it. Keep those coming. And even like, what was that guy's name? Boogie Boo? Okay. I didn't remember his name. It's not Boogie Boo. Right? Rubik's Cube? No, it's not Rubik's. You're making it worse. It's Rubik's Boobus. Okay, Rubus Boobus, like what he demonstrated, he only had one and one, and that's fine.
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He said that before. Because he had to be chosen. They said it's as if you were the number one pick in the draft. And he's like, no. It was as if I got struck by lightning. Yeah, dude. It doesn't just happen. There's nothing to compare it to. Because now you can look at how did Harlow get big. Well, he was actually a little earlier. Yeah, but you could just grow.
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Well, he just, he, what happened with Rubus Boobus, he probably recognized the taste and said, that's what's up. And then he just flipped inverse, and now you have a segment. And now here we are. So yeah, if you want to even start with, you think of something that, that's what's up, and then you just flip it on its inverse, send it in, man. And they don't even have to relate.
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You could just be like, hats, that's what's up. Because hats are what's up. Blankets, that's what's up. That's what's up. Being cold in your apartment, what's up with that? What's up with that? Rooms that are just, your apartment is warm, but then there's one room that's always cold. What's up with that? Space heaters, that's what's up. That's what's up. That guy. The sun, that's what's up.
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Yeah, that's what's up. Cameras, that's what's up. That's what's up. Taking pictures, that's what's up. That's what's up. Polaroids, that's what's up. That's what's up. Developing photos. That's what's up. Stepping in gum. What's up with that? What's up with that? What's up with that? Airplanes. What's up with that? What's up with that? I'm really scared of airplanes now.
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Oh my God, I hate airplanes. I don't want to fly ever again. And airports. What's up with that? What is up with that, dude? Everything in the airport being $40 too expensive. What's up with that? And like being a little worse. What's up with that? What's up with that? Yeah. Why is this like not a real Panda Express? What's up with that? Eggs. That's what's up. That's what's up. Ears.
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That's what's up. That's what's up. Apple changing the charger.
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and having two different chargers for my phone what's up with that what's up with that chipotle when you ask when you check off the bring utensils and they don't give you a utensil if you order it to your house what's up with that chipotle putting a knife in instead of a fork what's up what's that happen what the fuck a couple times and a plastic fork makes it taste better by the way for sure so it definitely messes it up uh the new honey chicken
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I haven't tried it. What's up with that, I guess, for me? That's fine. That's what I would say. Okay. It's fine. I wouldn't even really notice. Okay. Yeah. I'd be interested to see what you think. You won't what's up with that it, but you won't that's what's up it. You'll say that's. That's fine. Gummy candy. That's what's up.
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oh the new shackalicious is i want to try them i'd like to try them should we try them on the pod we should try them on the pod and you know what we just got lost in that moment and that's what's up yeah that is what's up uh but let's uh let's let's try these shackles those uh mints that are supposed to have caffeine in them what's up with that scammed what is up with that what is up with that let me call my wife socks that's what's up
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sucks that's what's up having a wife that's what's up water that's what's up I'm excited didn't we do this but these are the sour variant sour variant that's what's up that's kind of this is the only way I can talk now yeah what's up with that but like gummies that aren't sour what's up with that what's up with that but for her she would say what's up with that sour gummy she doesn't like sour it's better it's different taste buds what's up with that what's up with that yeah what's up with that what's up with that what's up with that I know
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Because I, listen. Sarah bringing down the gummies. That's what's up. That's what's up. Sarah not liking the sour gummies. What's up with that? Thank you. The size, by the way, thanks Sarah, the size of these gummies.
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What should I taste? They're all good, man. Just give me a couple. Give me a couple, man. Which one do you like the most? I would say. Those flavors look like. What's up with that?
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But I'm just saying a yellow, yellow, green and purple. Yeah, but it's. What's up with that? I mean, that's what's fucking up, man. Oh. That's what's up. That is what's up. Mm-hmm.
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Anybody now, it's like you just see how they got big. Yeah, you grow on Insta and TikTok. You go viral on the internet. YouTube and yeah.
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Whoa, whoa. That's what's up. So we're trying the... Oh, my God. So we already tried the other shacks. We gave them a positive rating, by the way. Oh, that is what's up. Now we're doing the sour gummy shacks. I think they're... I got these at a 7-Eleven. Honestly, just hop into the yellow, too, if you want to try them all. Green is the only one I've tried so far.
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Oh, I'm getting hit with like a watermelon from green. That's what I'm saying. Heavy watermelon. Green watermelon is a dope flavor. That's a dope flavor, Shaq. Grape's all right. It's green watermelon, mixed berry, and pineapple. Wow. That gets a 9.1 from me. And what is, by the way, just a reference. And we can check your stat book if you need to. I'll just try it.
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I'm going to check what your Sarah Patsky rating is. 9.34 is the Sour Patch rating. So Shaq's right there. But that's like, it's kind of like a handicap. Every time I have a Sour Patch, I rate it again. My Sour Patch rating is probably a, dude, fucking, dude, if I could choose between that and a bag of Sour Patch, I might get these. I love the size. I love the size on these, man.
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It's just like, it is so different now. Uh, all right. Do you want to go MVLV rook? Confess. Uh, yeah. I'll give, I'll give it MVP. Most value player. It's got to go to yoke. Well, you're in the, you're in the minority there. Yeah, that's bullshit. I don't get it. First ever 30, 20, 20. How do you play tonight? Extremely good. Extremely good. Big 35, 18 and eight or something.
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9.3. That's not ridiculous to say that. And you're giving it a 9.1. Zach's got a very, very pronounced gummy palate. So it takes a lot for him to give a high score. You could tell, by the way, I only eat one bite of each of them. You know what I'm saying? That's a critic's thing that they do that. Because I'm not here to bull jive around. Right. I'm not here to try to bull jive around the bush.
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You're just saying, let me just see what you got. I'm just seeing, like, what's going on. Yeah. What do you have for me? Let's give you a rating.
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So that green gummy is one of the best gummies to have here. Yeah. All three? This situation here that we got on this table? Yeah. is unbelievably good. I know, they're really good. If you are a gummy fan. But also, tap them with the Nod Sours. See what's up with those, man. That was great. That was great. I love that. Yeah, they're really good.
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We just got a standard blind ranking from Declan Donahue. That's a cool name. Donahue? Declan Donahue is sick, man. That's some good alliteration. He's got a nice ring. Yeah, nice choice. Nice choice, man. Good evening, Sack and Sanny. So maybe he really is alliterating here. Yeah, so maybe it's a stage name. Would you be so kind as to blind rank these five S-related TV shows? Oh, sick. Okay.
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So we're building around S. And it really is going to come down to how high I'm going to put in severance here, man. Right. Do I do one? We'll see. Go ahead. I'll just wrap it up already. He wrapped up with, I have a strong distaste for potatoes. Much love, Breadstick Declan. That's a bummer, Declan. You're missing out on the french fry. Do you think he's talking about the french fry, though?
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Maybe not. Maybe he's talking about a baked potato. Because that can't be... You can't hate french fries. I mean... I mean, it just depends on the type of hate. I think the way he said it, it felt like that didn't include fries. I know. It's like potatoes. I get that. I mean, what are you going to do with a potato? They're a little weird. People are supposed to love those baked potato things.
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I don't love them. I don't know.
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Their mashed potatoes are really good. Yeah, sure. So the first one he's got is The Simpsons. Yeah, we've talked about this. We didn't watch The Simpsons growing up. It's a classic. I don't think I've ever watched a full epi of The Simpsons. I probably haven't either. Like when would you have watched a full epi? Maybe if you're like in a hotel. Right.
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And it seems like Family Guy is more of our humor. Like that's what we find funny. Simpsons, not our time. I'm going to put it, I'm still going to put it in three out of respect. It does feel like a typical like sitcom that's like not funny, but it's like kind of like a comfort show. Great writing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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it's like Seinfeld is like not you're not like it's not like laugh out loud you're like that was good though right yeah I haven't watched Seinfeld either um The Sopranos I haven't watched The Sopranos have you watched The Sopranos no but I think one time we got everybody was like you gotta draft Tony Soprano so I think it's like okay two and I don't want to do this I don't want to do this tonight okay Severance one it's my top three favorite shows ever that I've ever seen what am I supposed to do I can't blame you what am I supposed to do that's my one of my favorite shows I've ever seen
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By the way, should we do a draft of S shows? Because there are a lot of options. We definitely could, and Severance is hot right now. We probably should do that. I think we should do that. We'll probably do that tomorrow. Thank you. Thank you, whoever. Who is this again? Declan Donahue. Thank you, Declan. Succession. I haven't seen Succession. Neither, but I've heard great things. Four.
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Four, that's fair. And then Better Call Saul. I know you tapped in for it. Saul, that one is, I'm going to finish what? By the way, it starts with B. Okay, I know Saul starts with S. But I think you could argue that. You could, yeah. But like The Simpsons, The Sopranos. I know, but those are just doing the. I guess I get it.
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Okay, fine. You know what, Declan? I think it's crafty. What is it? Short word, the. Yeah, I just think, yeah, maybe Saul is a third word. I think that show, by the way, I've watched a couple. It is good, and I will return to it, and I will enjoy it. And I might start watching that in between the seventh episodes, to be honest. I think it's good. It's going to go to five too low.
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I mean, you might as well, man. Why not? And everyone says it's amazing, like Breaking Bad. I think we both get in a bag and like it. I think I get into White Lotus. Oh, you have to. Have you still not?
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So he played extremely well again. What was his line tonight? Let's take a look here. We're going to take extremely good. And how efficient was he? 15 for 20 from the field. And how many turnovers did he have? Probably a couple. You know what he does? He just turns it over sometimes. And I blame the other players. No, you know how many turnovers he had? Zero. One. Really nice.
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Do your homework. Season one, I'm telling you, I know what you like, man. Season one or season two? Either of them. But honestly, I'd slide like 10 grand to go one, two, three again. Really? I love that show. Maybe that's a little much. Maybe one grand, but yeah. Which one is Sidney Skwinski in? One. And that one's like, I might watch it again. It's so good. Wow, I gotta watch it.
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You're gonna meet these characters and not know how they're gonna end up and it's crazy. I can't wait. This is awesome. Victor Olivo. Did Victor Olivo invent That's What's Up? Maybe. I really want to... I only want to say that if it's right, but I don't know. I think he did. I know Victor Olivo's been here a bunch of times.
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Yeah, so we got Victor Olivo. He's doing a That's What's Up here. And these are What's Up. When you're hungry and remember you have leftovers in the fridge, that's What's Up. That is What's Up.
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That is definitely What's Up. That's absolutely What's Up. This one's awesome. When you foul tip with two strikes and the catcher squeezes it. What's up with that? What's up with that? Don't squeeze my tip. A little comedy in there. That does suck when you strike out on a foul tip. Kind of a weird... Well, I don't even get it. It's weird, but it's like... I think it should always be an out.
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Yeah, why can you do that on 0-1? He basically just caught a foul line drive. Yeah. It's 2-0, you foul tip. What? No. You're not out? You're out. Dude, hit it. Hey, dude, it's too bad, dude. You caught your ball. He caught the ball, and if we all know that you foul-tipped that. Hey, man, what's going to happen if you hit a liner to the shortstop right now? You're out, dude.
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And that was just a liner, and he caught it. Yeah, that is a weird rule, man. Because if he adjusted a little bit. Yeah, yeah. It's weird that you're only K on 0-2. Yeah, I think that's insane. But he just did... That's what's up. Yeah, no, those are two very valid options. Thanks for writing in. We got Momo... Momo Mandeli Vala. Sick name, man. Very nice. Momo Mandeli Vala.
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He said, hey, gents, I got a complaint for you. This is a great complaint, too. It's just a complaint with no resolution. It's just a complaint.
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I came back home yesterday ready to take a nice hot shower. When I stepped in, that shit was freezing cold and it was not getting warmer. I had to surrender to the shower and take a cold shower. This is one of my worst experiences in 2025. And I would love to hear your opinion of what I should do. I love chocolate milk. That sucks. You should complain. You should complain. You should whine.
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You told us it's great. You should tell your friends, family. Whine, man. Whine. Whine your ass off, brother. Because that stinks, man. That's a really shitty, shitty thing to experience. So what, he was cold and he wanted a shower and he couldn't? And it never got hot and he just took a cold shower. That's one of the worst things anybody could ever go through.
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I'm sorry you had to go through that. I think your course of action should be complain around, man. And don't try and solve it. Just complain about it. No, no, come on. And complain to people that don't even want to talk to you. That's kind of what I think works. Like maybe in this story, like somebody in line, you start talking and then you just... Cashier. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Somebody in a drive-thru. Yeah. Just general, like, podcasts. I think you should write into every single one of them. Complain. Comment. Like, we post, like, four or five times a day on Instagram. Comment on all those. Right. DM people. Yeah. Yeah, man. That's a valid complaint. Let's get the word out. This is from Saif Hussain. I believe he's a return asker. Yeah, I think so.
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Would you guys accept a trade offer with Canada where the U.S. trades LeBron for Drake and JB? That's a good, oh man, that's a good offer. Any picks in there? An unprotected first. Unprotected first. Said Drake Bieber, unprotected first for Braun. I can't trade Braun. Fuck, I can't. We can't trade Braun, unfortunately. So one thing about Braun is he's off limits.
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We did not turn the rock over a lot. I mean, we played amazing. It was also like sometimes— 15 for 20. What did we shoot from three? Can we get that? They went 35, 18, and 8. Yeah, you had the exact line. What did he shoot from three? What did we shoot from three?
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I think we'll give Canada... I mean, pretty much any other... We'll give him Pat Bev. Pat Bev and... Clay Thompson. And Lil Baby. Lil Baby and two unprotected first rounders. Fuck it, we'll throw in a second. Yeah, second runner. That's the best we can do right now. And we could do one of the backup quarterbacks in the NFL. Yeah. Like a backup guy. We can. We can do... Not even a backup.
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We'll do Sam Darnold. Yeah, we could do Darnold. We can do Sam Darnold. We'll do Sam. He's rich now. He's got money. Yes. We got Sam Darnold. What did we say? Sam Darnold, Lil Baby, Pat Bev. And the entire Columbus Crew roster. Yes, Columbus Crew as well. And then some picks. Yeah, we could do that. We can't trade Braun. And we have Biebs and Drake. They're giving us the goaded Canada package.
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113. Love you guys.
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The Denver Nuggets. 18 for 30 deuce, so 56.3%. Okay, so that's kind of what happened. We shot really well, didn't turn it over.
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Can we figure that out? We played a perfect basketball game, it looks like. They shot 40 from the field. And what did they shoot from three? Or 40 from three, I mean. 40 from three, yeah. So that's just what happened. 40 from three, 47 from the field. We shot 56 from three, 60 from the field. And in this part of basketball, it's whoever scores more usually wins. So it's sometimes just that simple.
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It's like P. Watt was making his threes. Christian Brown was making his threes. What do you think P. Watt went from three? Probably like four for six. Four for four. A really nice game for P. Watt. I mean, that's what I'm saying, though. Sometimes it's just that simple. And dude, in the playoffs, if that happens, we win the basketball. That's what I'm saying.
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The NBA championship could come down to just, does Peyton Watson make his four shots? It can. Jamal also played great. 34-11 for 22. That's something you could really count on, though. That's going to happen. It seems like he's going to do that again this year. MPJ did a classic MPJ 17. I think he just became the second most three-pointers in Nuggets history. That's crazy, dude.
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And Yoka's about to become third. It's also a different game of basketball. Like, Melo just didn't shoot threes. Mid-range merchant. I don't even understand that. He was just really good from 14. I think he was just really, like, he jumped and stuff. And, like, I think sometimes you can't shoot. If you're, like, a real jump shooter. Oh, dude, jump shooting is f***ing hard.
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Because Pops used to teach us how to do it. We would jump shoot, and we could only arrange. That's why his range is, what, six feet?
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pops can is honestly like a really good shooter from four yeah but like his free throw he has to huck it up because he tries to shoot a true jumper and he i guess he just doesn't have the distance well if you jump all the way up it's hard to like kd does it and can do it but steph doesn't do it like that
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yo-yo's high so if yo-yo's higher yeah yeah i'd say it's like yo-yo-esque for you but it's for you because it's shut up well it's a drake thing and so and i think you're gonna have fun with it that's pretty yo-yo man that's what i'm saying it's pretty yo-yo so actually you know what it sounds like it's more just yo or yo-yo with like a y yeah it's almost it's almost yo-yo but i wouldn't give a stat of like a stat of the day by nature by nature is not like the best it could be is probably yo
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no mpj does it yeah he does do it doesn't he but i mean like i could get it to the rim if i'm shooting a three a jump shot three but i can't like i gotta like i can't control it at all no that's what i think if you can master that it's the best way to shoot i think because you're you're closer to the hoop it's impossible to block mpj that's why like he'll shoot shots that are terrible shots but is he's unbothered it isn't a bad shot for him yeah mellow shot it mellow the mellow fade away is so iconic it was really nice it was it was beautiful ball really beautiful yeah
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We didn't even appreciate it because we were like six. But I thought the AI and Melo days were pretty magic for me. I remember that. I remember AI's first game of the Nuggets. I remember I cried when he got traded. AI? Yeah. Yeah, he was awesome. Can we look into the details of that? Of what? Of... That AI trade? Of AI with the Nuggets. Allen Iverson. I think it was like 23 a game.
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But how long was he with us? Because I feel like it wasn't... Like three years? Three years. Like that's not... That's my guess. It was three years. Three years. And he came straight... Played 41 minutes a game. Wow, he was really good that one year. 27-7. That's good. You know what I didn't realize is how early in his career he was with us. I mean...
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he'd i yeah like i don't i did you think of him as like a pre-philly guy with us i guess he had one he wasn't pre-philly but he was pre the real philly no he's pre i mean he played he was out i mean he played from 96 to oh wait why am i getting what the f**k am i getting here i don't know what i'm saying here well you're you're just backwards it's inverse that's okay because that's why i was getting pre-philly yeah but he was he's post-philly that's what i thought
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I don't, I just don't remember. I was like, I was eight or whatever. I was like 10. Yeah. I was six. He was, he was electric though. He was electric. Um, what were we just, how do we even get there?
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Yoke.
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Jump shooting. Yeah. But you can go into your MV. Um, my MV is MVS. Most valuable sauce. It's honestly, it's not, it doesn't even really make sense fully. My most valuable stay and it's hotels in general. Yeah. I like hotels. Love hotels. I enjoy them. Like I, I, I just kind of, I wish I could live in a hotel kind of. Yeah.
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We just stayed at a hotel and the bathrooms are nice and bathrooms are cool. The showers are always fun. It's like, what kind of shower are we going to do? Extremely fun. The hallways are dope. Hallways are nice and clean and shit. It's fun to just have a place to get snacks right downstairs. It's fun, dude. It's a blast. I love that you come back and your shit's... Dude, I almost got injured.
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That's how tight my sheets were. Oh, yeah. The sheets are very tight. I was like, I can't even... I think I hurt my neck. I think that was part of my headache yesterday. I think I got a migraine or something. But I hurt my neck and I think it had something to do with how tight I was in. Oh, my God, dude. I was fucking in, dude. I couldn't move.
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But that's hotels. Yeah. Yeah. It's awesome. And then you leave and then you come back. Yeah. You leave and they come back and they clean it. And that's so nice of them. Oh, that's really nice of them. They didn't have to do that. They didn't have to do that. Because we're not even paying you. No, they don't work there. They don't work for me. They don't work there. We don't, we didn't pay you.
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Right. Exactly. It's just, you don't have to do that. And I think it's really kind that they, that they. It's as if they like work there as like a maid.
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And it's like, you don't. And it's like they pick your trash up. It's very nice. What's the deal with people checking out of hotels? What's that about? I don't know. I don't know. Most people do it. Yeah, people are like, you should do it. We never do it and nothing happens. I think maybe it's like... I just want to put this out there that if you check out of hotels...
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I don't... Here's the problem. I think some people like to return their keys for reusable.
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But yeah, okay. Maybe just leave them in your room. But... True. I think people don't know that you don't have to check on a hotel. I mean, I didn't know it. I think the parents scared us into... Or did they even do that? I don't think dad knows that you can't... That you...
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yeah he'll be like he would be a checkout guy for sure and i'll be like we need to check out no like we don't know we need to check out we know that's what you do get to the lobby we need to check out check out you don't have to that's what you do can just stop yeah yeah because he would probably think that you have to i bet in though i bet um like in the 90s or something there was a thing with it i don't know i mean it would make sense that maybe you want to be like don't charge me for an extra night that would be like that would make sense you're like i'm not in there
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I think the best it could be is Pony. Pony? Is that one below Yo-Yo? Two. And then what's over Pony? Slip and Slide. Okay, so Pony, Slip and Slide, Yo-Yo. So you think this is Pony? Yeah. So basically it's going to be Drake's top 10 best-selling albums. Here's how we're going to do it, though. You would obviously snipe the top 10. He only has like 15 projects out or something.
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yeah that would make sense but i don't or like look we're checking out on time don't charge us for late check exactly we're out of here yeah i don't know um lv lvd okay valuable dk yeah door knob yeah i don't have one in my bathroom or i do get a picture or something i'll take a picture i'll send it in i don't know what it is it looks really funny dude don't laugh at my door okay okay what is trying his best tiny a tiny wiener kind of
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uh it looks you think but yeah but you think my doorknob hasn't you think does he watch yeah he listens you think my doorknob hasn't heard that a million times yeah he probably has like he's missing his whole thing okay yeah his whole situation it's very embarrassing he's very i don't know if we could put it on he's very he's naked he's very naked he's exposed he's exposed and i um he's exposed and afraid
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yeah so i'm kind of just trying to be there for this knob man are you gonna fix him do you tell what are you telling him what gets him through like i i would keep checking on him because those guys he's probably struggling a lot yeah so what's giving him hope especially in a in a room with a with a shower head you know yeah yeah yeah and same with the toilet for that matter and they're not making matters any better right yeah toilet paper uh toilet paper holder guys usually dicks
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Yeah, and there's no exception in my bathroom. They're all assholes. So, yeah, I mean, he's going through it right now. And you know what? I'm going through it because I can't get out of the bathroom sometimes. Yeah, what do you do? Go through the window? Yeah, I just kind of climb out. Sometimes I call for help, and Nano comes and gets me from the outside. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's good.
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That shit is funny, man, but you should fix it. You're never going to. You're never going to fix it.
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Here's the thing. That doorknob situation that you used to have, you couldn't put the doorknob in and use it, I feel like. You couldn't. Or could you? What did we have again?
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Oh, so we just pushed. You just pushed. Yeah. Mine, it's like I have the knob.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. You just lost your handle. If I know what I'm saying, like I have the handle and I could put it on, twist it, take it out. Yeah. But then when you pull it, it comes off, but I could get the door open. I could Jimmy it. Yeah. You could Jimmy it. Um, and it's, I don't, I don't see myself. No, I don't, I don't see me unless the, unless Baldo is. That's how I was, dude.
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I was never going to fix that. And then these guys just showed up one day. If bald is around my property, I'll say there's a doorknob situation. Who's bald? You're a guy?
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Got it. Landlord? No. Maybe landlord. I don't even know. No, it's land bishop. My land bishop. Your land bishop. Yeah. That's bald. And I love bald, man. Me and bald get around like this. Yeah. Text every day. Do you? Yeah, talk all the time.
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That's dope. Bald as they come. But a great guy. Yeah, right? Is he super bald? Do you have like a flick of him? It's really the only quality that I've really gathered from him. Did I meet him when I was there that one time? No.
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But he kind of has gotten mad at me a couple times, so I... So it's kind of a... No, it's not a diss. It's cool. It's fine. Yeah. But it's just like, don't yell at me for not closing the door, all right? Yeah, I get that.
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I get that, yeah. Dude, land bishops always have to kind of be like that. Nobody ever loves their land bishop, ever. Like, my old land bishop didn't love him. No, my land bishop's an asshole, to be honest with you.
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I'll go. One time I went to my car. We're good tenants. Great tenants. We're not throwing fiestas. No. We're not fucking coming home late, bumping music.
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You can't, I'm going to give you three lives. You have to get them in order. If you say one wrong, it costs you a life. So you have to go down the list.
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Maybe you're bumping music.
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What, in the shiver when you're showering? I bump music all the time. Okay, but not like loud where your neighbors can hear it. I know how we are. We're not bad tenants. Not bad tenants. So what is bald getting really pissed about? Listen, here's the thing with bald. I had a conversation one time with Bald. Oh, really? Did it get? No, we didn't get handsy.
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But did you get, what's the word, verbally elevated?
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Okay. No, we stayed at surface level. Okay. But I walked out of the gate. If you walk out of the gate, we've had this conversation where you need to lock it. I close it. If I walk in. Yeah, the front gate or the back gate?
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Nikola Jokić Is Our MVP, Danny Cuts His Hair, Hotels Rock, And Questions From The Sticks
Oh, front gate is always open. Back gate, you need a key to lock it. Sure, sure, sure. Okay, and this is the thing is if you go out and I come back and it's locked and I don't have a key, I have to go all the way around. It's a whole thing. Yeah. I didn't have a key. I'm walking out and he's like, can you shut that? And I was like, I actually can't. I don't have a key.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
I don't think you're allowed.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
You know what's also crazy?
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
They have to fly to Colorado.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Are all the episodes out?
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Well, somebody watch that and let me know how it goes.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Yeah, yeah.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
I can't wait. I can't get my mind off Severance, man.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Give me just like a... Really?
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
I hope we get... They're like, we know the ending's going to piss everybody off. Let's just prolong this. Let's just... I'm going to be... Let's string them out.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
No, no. And I feel like on this podcast, I've said the most valuable split. The split squat? No, just push-pull legs. Oh, yeah. You get away from it and you start to think you're the shit.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Right. I mean, like they're, they're, they're doing DNA shifts. They're, they're going up and down there.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Brody, next episode's a Huang episode. I'll tell you that.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
I'm going I'm going back.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
There's too much. There's too much going on on that day. Totally. I like an arm day. Sure.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Yeah. She was like our third grade teacher.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Yeah, she took care of P.E. and... Recess.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
I think it moves well enough for me. I just haven't really gotten back to it. Yeah, that's fair.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
If you get two of these, you have to do a toe stomp right here, right now. Okay. You have to do one toe stomp.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
With my right foot? Yeah.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
So, okay, I'm just going to read you the career stat line. You have to guess the player. Oh, that's fucking dope, dude. Really gettable. How many do you have? Ten.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Should I change it to three? I really don't want to do toe stuff. I'll think you'll break my toe.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Dude, DePels would be interested because he can't stay healthy. Yeah. He plays 30 games a year, but I think for us, he would play all the games.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Can I get a... Yao Ming.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
We're doing Larry Bird.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Danny, I'm just, you know what? I just kind of skimmed these. I was kind of just... I'm just saying, I don't...
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
21, 8, and 7.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
I just do. 17 points, 9 assists, 4 rebounds.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Anybody that's on the Nuggets that's the replacement center is going to be bad because you're not playing with Jokic.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Have you ever seen that Theo clip? You said one time you reported an assault. I did see that.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
You dare me?
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Let's do the – I don't know shit about baseball.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Yeah, that's why it's like we're fine.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Let's think NL West. You got the Rockies. You got the Dodgers. You got the Diamondbacks. You got the Giants. You got the... Padres. Yeah, none of those guys. Definitely not the Rockies. Those guys are ass. We have zero. Not the Padres. Let's do the... No, see, not those. Do the other guys have like two rings or some shit?
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Okay. You know what? I won't do it then.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Watch it? Just watch the debt. But one time, it was during the Super Bowl, we bet on the coin flip, and I had to wear a hat of your choice on the pod.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Maybe we watch your stat of the day debt.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
And it's like, dude, I don't mind. Listen, I don't mind wearing a funky hat. It's those damn clips that go up.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
yeah why is this guy wearing the cat in the hat hat right you know what I'm saying and that lives on the internet forever and it's just well it's just I don't want I don't want people to think that that's that was my hat of choice it's like you'd rather them just watch it was a hat of his choice and you'd rather them just watch the clip about us talking about Funyuns it would steal the show 100% it would steal the show yeah so we're clear we're clean yeah oh dude my news my major news story this is huge
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Pat Mahomes cut his hair.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
When I saw it, I was like, that looks cool, and we might have it. This is number 24, Kobe. That's cool.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Then I won't do it. Then I won't do it. No, it's just like I thought it would be a crazy, insane way to start the pod.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
He's just like a grown-ass Patrick.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Let's see what else. I mean, the other one, I guess we don't have to save this. Or no, you know what? Maybe we can save it. Save it. Just the face of the league conversation. The Ant thing?
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Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
All of it.
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Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Oh, I mean, we knew that, though. We told him.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
We knew this was going to happen, though. It's like these guys, they retire, they un-retire.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
He asked you to kindly get an MRI and he said, f*** that dude.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
He'll be back, yeah. We'll see him at some point. This one comes from DJ. He says, how long have you guys been friends? Hmm.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
I remember here and there. Yeah. I mean, like, of course, like I was, I, I was doing a lot. I was cradled up a lot.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
I was growing and eating and growing, eating. I was developing a brain and stuff.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
If you live in San Diego, you probably understand it.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
I pooped in a toilet.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Yeah, concert. Who was it? Like a... rapper that he fell off now i think soldier boy somebody like that yeah that's cool yeah i mean listen we we became close um yeah i would say when i was six months around six months old yeah yeah
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
You can squeeze 48 hours in and 12.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
But guess what? There's super duper foods out there. You're just a superfood. Nobody gives a shit anymore. How about you look at the freaking goldfish?
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
So I think the real conversation is, do they respond by becoming super, super, duper or super, duper, super?
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
They were pooper, scooper.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
If you're a blueberry for brownies, but, but, but if you're a blueberry, I think just maybe like maybe freeze yourself.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
But strawberry, I guess strawberry juice is like, what is that? I guess that's something I would like to get in.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Yeah, yeah.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Banana plays a completely different game, though. Completely different game.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
He has juice and he lets you know about it.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Yep.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
It's like who, it's like if you're in a location and you can sleep in your own bed and you're going back and you're planning on going back the next morning anyway, just go back.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Like he's not just going, he's just not going to the, the hits.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Like that song, you know, Marvin's room is a real room in LA. No.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Because I would maybe look her dead in the eye and say, what's your motive behind the two liquid law?
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Did it go into liquid ice cream? Right.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Yeah, I mean, it's the way to go.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Major Huey.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Well, you know what? The offer's off the table. I was about to get crazy. I was about to get crazy. I'm willing to do that shit.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
dude i really do think we like we got a chance i really hope i really hope team rogers doesn't go to the raiders that would be annoying because i still think he's really good yeah yeah so if he's a raider and then we got it like for some reason people like really glaze herbert do it in the playoffs justin you know what i'm saying yeah um broncos are gonna play the
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
There's multiple Dannys.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
We can't go around waging war on all the other Josh breadsticks. How about you reach out to a Josh breadstick?
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Yeah. You can put it in your notes. I mean, we're not in a hurry.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Yeah, I just want to make sure.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Okay, that's not cool. That was the bad look. You know what? You wrote it.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
How many people around would need to mention the fall of Constantinople before you looked it up?
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
What is that about? Is that a prank?
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Can I ask you, did your wisdom tell you you don't have to pull the wisdom?
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Yeah, and it affects us. Anytime there's a wrong answer, it's because I looked it up and I used that.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
A lot of times if somebody's looking something up, I just don't want to sound like an idiot. So I'll just Google it.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
If you're ever like a Jordan, like I argue for LeBron in the GOAT debate.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Yeah, that is a good argument. I'm not one of those guys. That'll do it though for this epi.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Love y'all. Love you guys.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
I know my wisdom teeth's not Rico.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
But he's acting like he's another guy. And he's saying, have you ever thought about not pulling your wisdom teeth and just playing for four more molars?
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
He's trying to cause problems up there.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
It is the worst. It's as bad as it gets.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
One time in college, I, I had a, I had a tooth situation going on as well.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
I just think it's crazy that I didn't even think about watching the All-Star game.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
And I think that other, other, other water brands need to need to.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
I haven't either, but it's also after the season that you're injured by that point.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
I'll go, I got a new bucket list item. What is it?
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
And then that fire dog, maybe one of those Doberman or Dalmatian situation.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
You also get to, maybe I could wear a helmet sometimes. You could wear a helmet, yeah. Maybe give my helmet out for others to wear.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Yeah, you could bring your helmet to bars and stuff. You could put out fires sometimes, which is cool.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
I don't know how.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
But whoever's going to be like, no, you can't.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
They won't. We can scrub it. We can scrub this from the internet. Once we devise this plan, I'm going to say... And then you got a spread six.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
So maybe like... You see me in a fire truck with a fire hat and a...
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
I just think if I don't drive the fire truck, we just tell him if I don't, if I don't get to drive, it's going to be really bad.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Yeah. It's an emergency medical situation. Maybe I can get a doctor's note, but that's probably the best way to get there.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Like Perry, our aunt's a doctor. She could write me a note that says it's a prescription for one fire truck drive.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
You know what's crazy? Yeah, that you could do that.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Back in the day, I got a note from, I don't know why we would do this. Like we would just like be in gym in like seventh grade and we wouldn't want to gym.
The Bread Basket Podcast
Pat Mahomes Gets A Haircut, Zach's New Bucket List Item, And Danny Loves Golf
Yeah, just because I keep coming into this, I'll be putting in some notes, like some sports stuff, and then on Wednesday, it's like, that's all we're doing.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
So they changed the language to be not subject to the jurisdiction thereof to cover both domestic powers like Indian tribes and foreign powers. And that was all it was designed to accomplish. And there was a whole debate about this. Well, don't we also need to say an Indian's not taxed like we do with the 66 Civil Rights Act?
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
And they said, no, that's already covered by the subject to the jurisdiction clause because they're not subject to the complete jurisdiction. And if you're not subject to the complete jurisdiction, this clause of the Constitution does not guarantee you automatic citizenship.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
I don't know the answer to that. You know, the Supreme Court has never addressed this issue square on. Wong Kim Ark, as we pointed out, the 1898 case, it was limited to the children of permanently domiciled parents. They weren't citizens. We wouldn't let them become citizens. They had exhibited their allegiance to this country as far as we let them go.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
And in a footnote in dicta, in another case in the 1980s, they suggested that anybody born on the soil is subject to the jurisdiction there is citizens, but they never grappled with the question in that case. So this will be the first opportunity for them to do so.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
Very prominent judge, Richard Posner in the seventh circuit out of Chicago, some years ago, basically said our reading of the 14th amendment is right. and the government needs to get back on board with understanding what the amendment actually requires.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
Other leading scholars, not just me, but my colleagues at Claremont Institute, like Ed Erler and Tom West, but Yale law professor and political science professors, Roger Smith and Peter Shuck, I think Roger Smith is now at University of Pennsylvania. The late Lino Gralia at the University of Texas Law School.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
A number of very prominent scholars that have actually done the work and looked at the original understanding and look at the original documents and the original debates have all come to the same conclusion that birthright citizenship does not extend to people who are, to use the language of the day, temporary sojourners, temporary visitors. That would include tourists. That would include
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
people on student visas or H-1B visas or work visas. And then, of course, people who had never had any permission to be here in the first place.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
It's really stunning. I mean, I knew they were working on a lot of major initiatives that they wanted to put in place quickly. But even I couldn't have imagined how broad and how quick the turnaround that they have launched in our government. Look, our government's been on autopilot getting further and further out of control for nearly a century.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
And it was gonna take a monumental effort to reverse that. And Trump's done it in a week. I mean, it's just, it's really stunning and more power to him. But I don't think he would have had that ability
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
to do that if he hadn't seen the true depth of depravity of the deep state in his first term and then had an election stolen from him in his second term that just gained him the resilience and the tenacity to do the kind of things he's doing this past week.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
I have trouble keeping it up, and I kind of know a little bit about what's going on, and it's just overwhelming, and it's exciting and encouraging.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
Well, you know, despite the resounding victory that President Trump was delivered by the American people back November, the left doesn't seem to have gotten the memo. They're still proceeding full force with the criminal indictments in Georgia and in Arizona. We're still dealing with the California bar attempt to disbar me.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
And, you know, I think the left, they're bound and determined to get people's scalps to scare other lawyers away from ever taking on clients or causes that the left disagrees with. This is a threat to our rule of law, our adversarial system of justice, our constitutional rights. And that's why I'm fighting it so hard.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
You know, and there's a new documentary movie about all this called The Eastman Dilemma, Lawfare or Justice. People can watch it for free right now before it goes up on the paid platforms. And just by going to EastmanDilemma.com. And I hope people watch it and circulate it and, you know, have viewing parties with their friends and neighbors because people need to understand what's going on here.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
Well, I think Senator Roma from Hawaii on her tweet about this indicates the problem. She eliminated the key words from the 14th Amendment. She said all persons born here are citizens. Well, the clause she omitted from that is all persons born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. our citizens. And so the fight is what that phrase means.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
And we don't have to speculate about it. The drafters of the language, the people that proposed the 14th Amendment, the folks who ratified it all understood it meant complete jurisdiction, not what they called mere territorial or partial jurisdiction.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
And if I can explain the difference with an analogy, suppose somebody from Great Britain is visiting the United States on a student visa or work visa or just as a tourist. They're subject to our laws while they're here. That's subject to the territorial jurisdiction. But they don't owe allegiance to country. They're not subject to our more complete jurisdiction that was intended by that clause.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
We can't charge them with treason if they take up arms against us, although that would probably be a crime as well. We don't draft them into our army. They don't get to vote while they're here. They're not subject to that more complete jurisdiction. They've never sworn an oath of allegiance to us. And so President Trump's executive order picks up on that original understanding of the phrase.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
And it's not just my reading of those debates. The U.S. Supreme Court said the same thing in 1872 and 1884. The leading treatise writer of the day, Thomas Cooley, said exactly the same thing in his treatises in the 1870s. The Attorney General of the United States and formal Attorney General opinions for the State Department said the same thing in the 1880s.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
Children who were born here while their parents were temporarily visiting were not citizens. The U.S. Congress, after a Supreme Court decision, awarded citizenship to the child of a lawful permanent couple from China.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
Wong Kim Ark, 1898. And a lot of the critics of Trump's order are relying on that case. But it dealt with the children of lawful permanent residents, green card holders in today's formulation. But the clerk repeatedly says they were permanently domiciled in this country. And so that distinct, whether that case itself went too far or not, it clearly didn't go any further than that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
It clearly doesn't address children of temporary visitors here. And it clearly doesn't address people who are here illegally in the first place. So Wong Kim Ark does not settle the question, as many are now claiming. Honest scholars for decades have recognized that. If it did settle the question and anybody born on the U.S. soil was a citizen, then why did Congress need to offer citizenship to
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
in the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924 to all Native Americans who were born on U.S. soil. The fact is they needed to do that under the naturalization power because they were not guaranteed citizenship under the 14th Amendment. And neither are temporary visitors, neither are illegal immigrants to this country.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
And I think President Trump's executive order is going to force the court to finally resolve that issue in the way that the framers of the 14th Amendment actually intended.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
Well, yeah, no, look, and they even make a silly argument. Well, if they're not subject to our jurisdiction, then we can't deport them for violating our laws. That's just utter nonsense. The distinction between territorial jurisdiction and complete jurisdiction is what they intended. It's easy enough to understand for normal people. And that's what the 14th Amendment says.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
And by the way, you know, the notion that our leading enemies on the world stage, Russia with birth tourism in Miami or China with birth tourism in Los Angeles, you know, put out 50 or 100 grand, stay a month in a luxury hotel, have a kid and then get that kid citizenship to come back in the United States years later is utter nonsense. And President Trump recognizes the nonsense of it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
And he acted swiftly to deal with it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
Look, I agree. Birthright citizenship is one of the three primary magnets for illegal immigration. Getting a job and making a better life for your family is probably the primary one. But birthright citizenship is one of the top three. And they think they get the holy grail of United States citizenship by merely having their children born here. It's just not true.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
That's not what the 14th Amendment said. But look, the idea of youth solely, that's the old English common law, And it had two components. If you're born on the king's soil, you are the king's subject and you can never leave as a king's subject. You're irrevocably the king's subject. He has control over you for the rest of your life if you're born on his soil. That was you solely.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
We repudiated that with the Declaration of Independence in explicit terms at the end. We hereby absolve all allegiance to the king. I mean, they could not have been more clear that they were rejecting use solely, this birth citizenship notion. And it was birth subject ship. It was an outgrowth of feudal Europe. And we rejected it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
We instead formed governments based on mutual consent of the governed. And what birthright citizenship does is let people to whom we have never given consent to join our political community, to demand it unilaterally by their own actions, even if they are in violation of our laws at the time they're doing it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
That completely destroys consent of the governed, the cornerstone principle of our system of government.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman
I'm attempting to codify the 1866 Civil Rights Act. So some people have made much of the fact that the language in the 1866 Civil Rights Act more clearly bars citizenship to people that are subject to foreign powers. The reason the language was changed is because the controversy over whether Native American tribes were foreign powers or domestic powers. And they're domestic powers.
The Charlie Kirk Show
I Just Got Back From Greenland: What I Saw
Listen, I'll go with whatever works. I personally think it'd be easier to quick get the border funding passed because I think the tax bill settling on, I think the major sticking point is going to be what spending level are we going to agree to within the conference? We've got big spenders in our conference as well.
The Charlie Kirk Show
I Just Got Back From Greenland: What I Saw
I don't think anybody voted for President Trump to maintain Biden's spending levels. And I want to talk a little bit about that. But I think The easiest thing to do would be two packages, quite honestly, so we can get that border funding right away before the news media starts talking about what it looks like to deport somebody. Could have a few individuals waver on their support for that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
I Just Got Back From Greenland: What I Saw
So I'd rather get the border funding immediately. done, and then take our time. Part of the tax thing, I'd really like to simplify and rationalize their tax code. Primary goals prevent a massive automatic tax increase from occurring in 2026. I mean, that ought to be incentive enough. But as long as we're doing that, if we can simplify, rationalize tax code, that'd be a good thing.
The Charlie Kirk Show
I Just Got Back From Greenland: What I Saw
But we must agree on dramatically lower spending levels than what we're spending right now. This is absurd that we haven't returned to some pre-pandemic baseline. We've... In 2019, Charlie, we spent $4.4 trillion. Then we have the spending spree during 2020, that was $6.6 trillion. Last five years, we've averaged $6.5 trillion. We've never returned to pre-pandemic level baseline, which is absurd.
The Charlie Kirk Show
I Just Got Back From Greenland: What I Saw
It's ridiculous. It's just not justified.
The Charlie Kirk Show
I Just Got Back From Greenland: What I Saw
No. And my concern is we're not going to have enough Republicans that are willing to do it either. Again, it's it's it's so easy to just say, oh, well, that's what we spent last year. And boy, if we if we don't spend at least that amount, we're going to be accused of starving women and children. So I'm trying to make the case.
The Charlie Kirk Show
I Just Got Back From Greenland: What I Saw
I'm trying to actually tell the American public these are the numbers, because I think we have a general sense that we're federal government is totally out of control. But nobody knows specifically. That's what I'm saying. $4.4 trillion in 2019. Last five years, now $6.5 trillion. Charlie, that's absurd. It's like a family who makes $100,000, right, or spends $100,000. They have an illness.
The Charlie Kirk Show
I Just Got Back From Greenland: What I Saw
All of a sudden, they have $50,000 worth of medical bills, so they spend $150,000. That individual gets cured, but they continue to spend $150,000 and borrow the money to do it. I mean, nobody would do that. That's exactly what the federal government's doing. So I think we explain this. I've come up with a couple different options.
The Charlie Kirk Show
I Just Got Back From Greenland: What I Saw
For example, if you go back to 1998, that's the last year we had a surplus since 1969. This was Bill Clinton's spending. and you take Social Security and Medicare off the table, you just plug those in at Biden's 2025 numbers and interest, but inflate all of Bill Clinton's spending to account for population growth and inflation, we'd be spending $5.5 trillion, and we have a balanced budget.
The Charlie Kirk Show
I Just Got Back From Greenland: What I Saw
So does anybody argue that Bill Clinton didn't spend enough money on all this other crap? If you go back to Obama's 2014, do the same thing, that'd be $6.2 trillion. Even if you use 2019 and inflate it, again, based on population and inflation, you'd be about 6.5, which is $800 billion less than what Biden says he's going to spend right now.
The Charlie Kirk Show
I Just Got Back From Greenland: What I Saw
So why would we lock into Biden numbers and be arguing over saving $100 billion or so? I mean, it's so inadequate. We need to dramatically lower the baseline spending level back to what it was prior to the pandemic.
The Charlie Kirk Show
I Just Got Back From Greenland: What I Saw
Certainly is on my part. I think we need to really look at where to spend our money. I mean, we've got these massive platforms that can be taken out with asymmetric warfare. We got these Abram tanks. They have to. kind of run out of their hole in Ukraine, fire a couple shots and run right back because they're vulnerable to the drones.
The Charlie Kirk Show
I Just Got Back From Greenland: What I Saw
You know, to drones that cost thousands of dollars, not millions. So again, the Pentagon, they're not keeping up with warfare right now. They're coddling to the military industrial complex. The 155 millimeter shells, this is a prime example. Russia produces those things, about four and a half million of them at about $600 a pop. The West can only produce about 2 million shells
The Charlie Kirk Show
I Just Got Back From Greenland: What I Saw
We get charged $6,000, 8,000 euros in Europe. That's how we're getting hosed, I use that word, by the military industrial complex. So yeah, no, we've got to take a real serious look at that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
I Just Got Back From Greenland: What I Saw
Well, first of all, he comes from a swing state like I do. And he realizes that, you know, obviously they lost the Senate seat in Pennsylvania. He'll be up for reelection eventually. I think, again, he's smart enough to realize that that was a big issue in this election. And by the way, who could oppose, literally, what rational individual can oppose deporting criminals?
The Charlie Kirk Show
I Just Got Back From Greenland: What I Saw
Well, Democrat Party in total, they did oppose that because they wanted an open border. They elect George Soros prosecutors, but a lot of those prosecutors lost as well. So, you know, Fetterman in a swing state sees when the tide turns and he's a smart enough politician to at least not buck these major trends where, again, you can't defend opposing a bill that's going to deport criminals.
The Charlie Kirk Show
I Just Got Back From Greenland: What I Saw
Well, listen, I think vulnerable Democrats, those are up for re-election in 2026. They may vote. I'll be surprised if we get more than six. Because if we get seven, the bill passes. I'm not sure the Democrat Party is going to let it pass. I mean, again, I can't explain that. I mean, I can't explain liberalism.
The Charlie Kirk Show
I Just Got Back From Greenland: What I Saw
I can't explain the way the Democrat Party is taking such a strong turn to the left here. But that's who they are right now.
The Charlie Kirk Show
I Just Got Back From Greenland: What I Saw
Well, that pretty much used to be the tradition of the Senate is, OK, elections matter. A president should decide who wants to serve in their cabinet. And as long as there's nothing disqualifying, you go ahead and confirm that nominee. for one thing you want to work with those department heads. So you don't want to start off a relationship and say, I'm going to vote against you.
The Charlie Kirk Show
I Just Got Back From Greenland: What I Saw
So again, the bias always was, if it's a qualified individual elections matter, you'd go ahead and vote for confirmation and try and work with that department head for the benefit of our constituents and for the benefit of America. Yeah. I stopped doing that with the Biden administration because the nominees were just wacko radical leftists. And in the end you say, I can't support that at all. Um,
The Charlie Kirk Show
I Just Got Back From Greenland: What I Saw
But so it's changed. It's become very partisan. And that is unfortunate. But what Fetterman's talking about right now is pretty much the way that the senators has always traditionally looked at confirmations. And there's been a lot of bipartisan support for, you know, cabinet heads.
The Charlie Kirk Show
I Just Got Back From Greenland: What I Saw
I think so, because the default position, particularly on the Republican side, is the elections do matter. Trump had a convincing victory, and it's up to Trump to decide who he wants serving his cabinet. I mean, whether you like that individual or not, you're not the president. He is.
The Charlie Kirk Show
I Just Got Back From Greenland: What I Saw
And so our duty is pretty much to get in line and go ahead and confirm his nominees, barring some really disqualifying factors. So I think that's the attitude of most Republican senators, and I do expect them to get confirmed.
The Charlie Kirk Show
I Just Got Back From Greenland: What I Saw
It's vital. Anybody who wants to run for president as Republican in 2028 better better help support our president. candidate for the Supreme Court. If you want to maintain a majority in the House, if that court remains liberal, they will redistrict the federal, and we'll probably lose a couple of House seats, and we may never get the 10 electoral votes for Wisconsin again.
The Charlie Kirk Show
I Just Got Back From Greenland: What I Saw
So it's absolutely crucial. America has to focus on this. Democrats will. Democrats will send tens of millions of dollars, as they have in the past, to be the same support from conservatives and from Republicans.
The Charlie Kirk Show
I Just Got Back From Greenland: What I Saw
I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
The Charlie Kirk Show
THOUGHTCRIME: Renewal of the American Dream Speech Special
Never heard a president attack the opposition in a speech like this in such a pointed way, even going after to use a rather derisive nickname for Senator Elizabeth Warren.
The Charlie Kirk Show
THOUGHTCRIME: Renewal of the American Dream Speech Special
exactly exactly finding that members continue to engage in willful and concerted proper decorum the chair now directs the sergeant mike johnson unleashed remove this gentleman from the chamber i love this
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Trump Admin Group Chat Leak: My Reaction
Well, Charlie, and thank you for all those efforts. You understand, as your organization understands, the way you win elections in Wisconsin is is ground game, ground game, ground game. You combine that with the volunteers at RPW, Elon Musk's efforts, some other big supporters. That's how we're going to have to get it done.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Trump Admin Group Chat Leak: My Reaction
But what's so crucial about this is we have another election for the Wisconsin Supreme Court. Last time we lost, our candidate only got 800,000 votes. Now, to put that in perspective, President Trump is now the record vote getter in Wisconsin, just shy of 1.7. There's no reason whatsoever that we're running 900,000 votes below his record total.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Trump Admin Group Chat Leak: My Reaction
So we need to get out to vote because this is a race between a judge, a judge. I've got a senior moment here.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Trump Admin Group Chat Leak: My Reaction
And his opponent, Susan Crawford, who will be a judicial activist, someone who will legislate from the bench, will first redistrict the federal, the congressional seats. We'll probably lose a couple seats from that standpoint. Then the next thing they'll do is overturn Act 10. They'll cost Wisconsinites hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars over the time, probably overturn voter I.D.,
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Trump Admin Group Chat Leak: My Reaction
We may never have another free and fair election in Wisconsin. We'll certainly never clean up our voter rolls. So this is crucially election has national implications. It's great that Turning Point, your organization is getting out there and understanding the national implications of this.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Trump Admin Group Chat Leak: My Reaction
Yeah, that's true. Conservatives, we don't want to deal with government. We want to live our lives. We want to go to work. We want to provide for our families. Whereas leftists, they want power. They get power by winning elections, by governing and imposing their ideology on us. So, again, we need to wake up everybody who voted for President Trump.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Trump Admin Group Chat Leak: My Reaction
let them understand what's at stake here on April 1st, and get out and vote. I mean, if every Trump voter voted for Brad Schimel, we would run away with this race. But again, in the last Supreme Court race, our candidate only got 800,000 votes versus President Trump's 1.7. And of course, the left, the last time, turned that Wisconsin Supreme Court race into the most expensive race
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Trump Admin Group Chat Leak: My Reaction
elected judicial race in history, this race is going to top that. It's just grotesque the amount of money the left throws at these things. Good news is we've got supporters on our side now that are trying to match those totals. But even better news is we've got organizations like yours that realize the way you really win is not running millions and millions of dollars of ads. That's important.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Trump Admin Group Chat Leak: My Reaction
You got to do it. You got to keep up. But it's about ground game and getting out to the voters themselves and energizing them and making sure they know how important this race is.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Trump Admin Group Chat Leak: My Reaction
Yeah, there's no doubt about it. On our side, we're paying a lot closer attention to this race than we did the last time because we lost the last one so miserably. But this feels very similar to most elections in Wisconsin, dead even, really close, and it's going to come down to you know, a few tens of thousands of votes, probably. Again, I don't quite understand that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Trump Admin Group Chat Leak: My Reaction
You know, why in a presidential year, you can turn out 1.7 and win by 30,000 votes. In a non-presidential year, you turn out about, you know, 1.2 million and win by 30,000 votes or lose by 30,000 votes. It's Wisconsin. It's going to be close.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Trump Admin Group Chat Leak: My Reaction
It's just amazing the way both sides seem to, you know, ratchet up the turnout by about the same level, no matter what the race is, whether it's presidential or non-presidential.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Trump Admin Group Chat Leak: My Reaction
Well, it does sound, now that I started reading the reports, that this has been embellished. It's obviously not a great look. My guess, this was obviously a mistake, a mistake that I'm sure is being corrected and has been corrected immediately. I mean, it'll be up to the president to decide exactly what action to take.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Trump Admin Group Chat Leak: My Reaction
But from my standpoint, I don't doubt that this is all being blown way out of proportion by the Atlantic and by the mainstream media. And I also have no doubt that this is going to be corrected very, very quickly. I certainly contact her. My, my, discussion with nominees is follow the Federal Records Act, make sure that all communications are preserved, follow the law.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Trump Admin Group Chat Leak: My Reaction
And I think by and large, that's exactly what the people inside the conservative administrations do. We certainly see how Vice President Biden, President Biden violates that by, you know, using all these private email addresses, that type of thing. So again, I caution Republican nominees, don't do that, follow the law.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Trump Admin Group Chat Leak: My Reaction
To me, it's all about spending. There's no way you can justify it from going from $4.4 trillion in 2019 up to $7.3 trillion this year. And particularly when you take a look at the options I've laid out there to return to a pre-pandemic level, whether it's Clinton in 98, Obama in 2014, or Trump in 2019, leave Social Security and Medicare...
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Trump Admin Group Chat Leak: My Reaction
as they are today, plus up the other outlays by population growth and inflation, you've got a baseline spending level somewhere between $5.5 and $6.5 trillion. $6.5 ought to be the absolute maximum we ought to be considering. Unfortunately, the House resolution at most is going to cut about $1.5 trillion over 10 years, which is going to take us from about $7.3 down to, what, $7.1?
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Trump Admin Group Chat Leak: My Reaction
I mean, it's just completely unacceptable. So President Trump, he needs to get serious about reducing spending if he's going to accomplish the goal he's laid out there about balancing the budget. I don't think anybody that voted for President Trump thought he would continue spending at Biden's levels. And so there's a real, we're loggerheads right now at the House.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Trump Admin Group Chat Leak: My Reaction
I know they want to pass one big, beautiful bill. I think a multi-step process always made more sense, a lot simpler. Get the border funding to President Trump now. I would just quite honestly extend current tax law to make sure that we don't have a massive automatic tax increase on the table. I'd get those things off the table, get them out of the way, and then start doing the really hard work
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Trump Admin Group Chat Leak: My Reaction
of trying to convince my colleagues, and we've got big spenders in my party too, of returning to a reasonable pre-pandemic level. I proposed in the Wall Street Journal a panel made up of House members, senators, and the administration going line by line publicly with members of the administration. Justify this. I mean, why are you spending so much more than an inflated 2019 level?
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Trump Admin Group Chat Leak: My Reaction
We can literally save hundreds of billions of dollars per year in you know, at a minimum $700 billion, and that's not even touching Medicaid. Don't touch Social Security, Medicaid, or Medicaid, and it's still $700 billion less than we're spending today. Why aren't we talking about that versus the meager savings the House resolution would offer us?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
Restorative justice is essential. We're gathering J6 defenders and as well as the entire country and the world as advocates to get this movement for restorative justice. Please join us at wearej6.com.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
And what that means is we need a national reckoning with the truth of what happened, with the weaponized government, with the corruption of the DOJ and the prosecutors, and with the harms and catastrophe. inflicted on these folks. So we need to make them whole. We're talking historic civil damages.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
We want to work in cooperation with the incoming Trump administration to make sure this happens in the right fashion. And also that there is serious accountability as Julie Kelly mentioned.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
We must hold these government officials to account and make sure that as a prosecutor and as a judge that you are upholding the Constitution and you are not willfully participating in a collusion to violate civil rights. Title 18 Code 242 under color of law violating civil rights. There is strong law in place that must be enforced. And we need a reckoning with these institutions.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
I mean, what I am so grateful for is that by exercising what I call uncomfortable courage, knowing what's right and wrong and choosing right, fighting against evil. I actually refused the plea deal and therefore was vindicated at the U.S. Supreme Court. And I'm about ready to be vindicated and exonerated legally even before the pardon comes.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
So that's a that's a representation of the fact that we were innocent, betrayed by a corrupt government. We stood strong. The pardons clear the decks and reset the narrative that we have been exonerated and we must examine what has done wrong.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
Charlie, thank you for having me on, and thank you for acknowledging the enormity of this moment. Myself and every Jay Sixer have truthfully been exonerated as the innocent, brave citizens that we were that day, showing up when it was unpopular and uncomfortable to do so, to stand up for constitutional integrity and our constitutional rights.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
This is a day of incredible victory, vindication, and a recommitment to the reality of truth. I thought it was incredibly beautiful and incredibly important what President Trump acknowledged in his historic inauguration speech. that there is a God and in him we trust. That is what this republic is built on, that there are only two sexes, male and female, that God has created.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
And this truth about January 6th is also incredibly important, that we no longer live in the lunatic left paradigm of a false reality about January 6th being an insurrection or any of this other rhetoric that was clearly not only false, but deeply malicious.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
Julie Kelly was spot on in her comments about the malicious and unprecedented nature of a weaponized DOJ that waged what was tantamount to a kinetic war against its own citizens. The carnage is that catastrophic and we must have a national reckoning.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
with what has been done to these citizens and their families, myself included, and many others, some who lost their lives, who lost babies, who lost families, fortunes, and sacred honor. It was all obliterated. That's terrible.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
No, I think Donald Trump actually has a lot of faith in the ability of American businesses to compete when the playing field is level. He really does look at the reciprocal tariffs, at least, as a temporary thing to try to force the rest of the world to live up to their free trade rhetoric, right?
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
Whenever we raise tariffs, they say, oh, no, no, you know, no, no, you know, please don't raise the tariffs. That's not fair. but they won't lower their own. And an important thing he said in that clip is, and you've mentioned, it's not just tariffs, it's all of the non-tariff barriers to a level playing field. We need to address those.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
And I'm a little suspicious, the Europeans said, oh, we'll go to zero tariffs on industrial products. Well, what do they mean by industrial products? Does that include cars? It's not clear to me it does. What do they mean? And are they willing to get rid of the non-tariff barriers? Because if they're not, it really won't help much to just get rid of the tariffs.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
In fact, their tariffs are so bad that if we impose their non-tariff barriers are so bad that if we impose those on them, they couldn't sell anything here. We have been a country that was the consumer of last resort for the entire world. The entire continent of Europe runs a giant trade surplus against the U.S., meaning we sell them a lot less than we buy from them.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
That was intentional for a long time. We wanted Europe to become a rich partner in the free world. We wanted to defeat communism. We wanted them to join us as a powerful economy to basically make the entire world richer. Well, that worked. Our policy worked out. So what this is in many ways is us declaring victory, saying, guys, we did it. You're rich. Now let's have a level playing field.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
You don't need unequal access to U.S. markets. If you open your markets, our markets will stay open to you. And if you will not do that, if you continue to run these giant trade deficits, then we are going to start to have very high tariffs on what you're doing because the age of one-sided trade agreements is over.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
And I think that's, even though people are freaking out about Donald Trump, I think that's true. I don't think we're ever going back to the one-sided trade deals that we had. I think this is the way forward. And I think that's frankly why Europe and everybody else is coming forward now, because they realize there's no going back. This is a page that has been turned.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
We are in a new chapter of history. So you asked about, is Donald Trump 2018 the same Donald Trump today? I'd say almost. The thing about Donald Trump 2018, I think he was a little naive. I think he genuinely thought it would be easy to get Europe, to get China even, to come along and do freer trade. I think he now realizes that they'll make a lot of promises. And they did this.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
Europe very, very much did this in Trump's first term. They made a lot of promises about opening up their markets and never did. So what Donald Trump is saying this time around is the baseline is going to be tariffs. You are going to get the tariffs if you show us that you are opening your markets to the U.S. And the way to show that is that you're buying a lot more stuff from the U.S.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
Then your tariff will come down. Until then, we're going to trust but verify. We'll listen to you. We'll understand what you want to do. Your tariffs aren't going to come down until we see that you're making progress.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
No, I don't think that this is anything like the 1930s at all. And in fact, we were already headed into a depression. I actually think the Smoot-Hawley Act is unfairly vilified. It was not the cause of the Great Depression, and it really didn't do much to make it worse. And Reagan, frankly, was a big protectionist. I know he has a legend as a free trader. It's not really true.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
He did a lot to protect U.S. autos from Japanese predatory practices. In fact, he imposed quotas on how many cars could come into America from Japan. Not tariffs. Literally said, you can only send this many cars in. And that's why they built Honda factories and Toyota factories all over the American world.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
So let's start with Smoot-Hawley because this is something that comes up a lot and then we'll get to Reagan because I think the Reagan legacy is a lot more complicated than people think. So Smoot-Hawley definitely did not cause the Great Depression.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
great depression was caused by misguided monetary and fiscal policies but not by a tariff on imports remember what a lot of people say about tariffs on imports that they're going to raise consumer prices look back at the great depression was the problem that prices were too high no the asset prices crashed in the great depression things that people weren't working in the great depression it was not a period of inflation it was a period of deflation and depression so
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
How can they say Smoot-Hawley caused it? Well, one thing is they say that the rest of the world retaliated with tariffs against Smoot-Hawley. That is a very strange and really almost insane take. The rest of the world was actually moving towards protectionism itself.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
The idea that they would just have been free traders if not for the Smoot-Hawley tariff, that the rest of the world only reacted to the United States in 1930 is crazy. In fact, the rest of the world was going to adopt those tariffs anyway. So Smoot-Hawley was part of a movement that the rest of the world was doing, which was putting on tariffs. Did that maybe make the Great Depression worse? Sure.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
The fact that the entire world adopted tariffs and raised protectionist barriers may have contributed a little bit to the Great Depression. But it was a minor thing. And again, the context was very different than it is today. And what I would say is that the reason why people like to blame Smoot-Hawley is because it was a big, big tariff.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
And people who hate tariffs want to try to assign it to the Great Depression. But real serious economic scholars do not think there was a large role played by tariffs, by our tariffs in causing the Great Depression. Maybe some other tariffs may have contributed to it by hurting our exports. But again, the world was headed into a Great Depression. Yeah. Trade was going to fall no matter what.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
So I think it ends with a universal 10% tariff, maybe a little higher, maybe a little lower. That is basically a revenue tariff. It is a tax to, I call it a friends and family charge, a cover charge to come into the United States. And I think the reciprocal tariffs on most countries will come way down because they want access to the US markets.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
And so we will have freer trade than we had when this all started with the exception of China. They're not going to change and we are going to decouple with China eventually. unless they have some sort of political revolution that overthrows their communism. I'm not counting on that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
So I think we get decoupling with China, free trade with everybody else, and a revenue tariff that lets us cut taxes on Americans here at home.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
Yeah, so one of the things that happened last week was that Trump announced tariffs that were much higher than people expected and much more comprehensive. If you asked Wall Street where Trump was likely to go on tariffs, they thought he was going to come up with a handful of countries, maybe the worst actors, the top 15. I heard people say the hateful eight and tariff them.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
And maybe they thought their tariffs were going to be at lower rates. So Trump surprised the market with much higher tariffs and much more comprehensive, basically the whole world. And a lot of people weren't sure whether he was going to do reciprocal tariffs or just a 20% tariff on everything, and he kind of cut the middle.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
He did a 10% tariff on everybody, and he did what they're calling like a halfsy reciprocal tariff, where we're not tariffing them at the full extent of their trade deficits, but we're doing about half. So the market freaked out. People didn't like it. One thing I've told a lot of people, though, is, look, the market going down doesn't mean your policy is wrong.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
The market often goes down when something unexpected happens, and it can be the right policy. When the Fed raises interest rates as a surprise to the market, A lot of times the market falls, stocks go down. When Jerome Powell gave his famous speech in Jackson Hole two years ago, when he said, maybe it was three now, time flies.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
But when he said, you know, we're going to inflict pain on the economy in order to get inflation down. Stocks plummeted and they fell for days afterwards. And whenever the Fed sounded more hawkish, stocks went down even further. Did that mean it was a mistake to get rid of inflation? No, we absolutely needed to tighten monetary policy. So here I would say the same thing.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
This was a policy we needed. We need to reorient to reset global trading. The stock market didn't like it, but they often don't like the correct policy. Today, what we're seeing with this surge in the market, it was at least when I looked earlier, it was up something like the most since 2022, a huge recovery.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
One of the reasons for this is that the rest of the world is not acting as the tariff critics said they would, which was trade war. We are going to just fight. We refuse to give in. No, in fact, the rest of the world wants to preserve their access to the greatest economic resource ever existed on earth, and that is the American consumer. So they want to preserve their access.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
They're coming to us and saying, what do we need to do to do that? So a lot of those reciprocal tariffs, not the 10% universal tariff, but the reciprocal tariffs will be able to come down If these countries are serious about reducing their trade deficits, they'll come down.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Real History of Tariffs
And I think the stock market is, this is a relief rally that the rest of the world is acting rationally rather than just, you know, trade war. Let's put the world into a Great Depression. That never made much sense to me. If a trade war would be as bad as people thought, why would the rest of the world do that? Why wouldn't they respond rationally to our tariffs? And it seems like I was right.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Mineral Deal Points to One Thing: China
Sure. Today is the beginning of tariffs on Canada and Mexico. Trump announced right after he came into office that he was going to impose a 25% tariff on Canada and Mexico unless they did a lot more to help at our border. They need to help on fentanyl. They need to help on illegal immigration.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Mineral Deal Points to One Thing: China
What he said very recently was the announcements they had made were not enough, that the time had run out and that the tariffs were going on on March 4th today and that there was no more room for delay at all. Here it comes. We still don't know. Exactly, will they be 25%? That's what he has said. So that's, I think, the best bet right now.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Mineral Deal Points to One Thing: China
But it could come in, perhaps phased in, a 10% tariff, maybe climbing up to 25%. Maybe Mexico and Canada will do something at the last minute. But I think it's too late. They had a month. The tariffs were originally supposed to go on one month ago. Trump said, I'll give you a month. Come to me with what you have. They said they made some announcements about putting troops on the border.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Mineral Deal Points to One Thing: China
That obviously has not been enough. And so Trump is saying the tariffs are going on. There's also a 10 percent tariff that's going on on top of other tariffs on China. But really what's happening today is a reaction to the Canada-Mexico tariffs. They're huge trading partners. The stock market does not like this, mainly because tariffs do not really get passed through to customers.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Mineral Deal Points to One Thing: China
You hear that all the time. Oh, it's going to raise prices. If it just raised prices, this actually wouldn't hurt the stocks of companies at all because they were just passing through and their profits would remain the same.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Mineral Deal Points to One Thing: China
What we're seeing is actually a confirmation of what we've been saying here at Breitbart all along, that the tariffs tend to be paid for either by the companies that are exporting into the U.S. or by the companies that are importing. In other words, they hit corporate profits rather than the prices on the store shelves. Canada has reacted very badly to this.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Mineral Deal Points to One Thing: China
They've announced that they are going to put on their own tariffs. That's a foolish thing to do if you are dealing with Donald Trump. Threatening back is not a good idea. And frankly, they have a lot more to lose in this, and they are going to back down. Mexico has tried to be more cooperative. They've sort of led the way here. I expect that they may announce some retaliatory tariffs.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Mineral Deal Points to One Thing: China
But in the end, I think both Canada and Mexico realize that a 25% tariff on all of their imports, except for Canadian Energy, that gets a smaller tariff, a 10% tariff, will be very, very, very bad for their economies. And I think they'll back off. I don't think we're going to see a trade war. We may see a trade battle for a few days or a few weeks, but not a trade war, as people are putting it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Mineral Deal Points to One Thing: China
Yeah, I think they've come to the realization that despite all of the rhetoric we heard over the past 25, 30, 40 years, frankly, about free trade, that the world trading system is nothing like free trade. countries have much higher tariffs than we do. Countries have much bigger barriers to entry, non-tariff barriers, and that the U.S. raising tariffs isn't the beginning of a trade war.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Mineral Deal Points to One Thing: China
It's actually the U.S. responding to a trade war that's been going on for a long time, particularly with the Canadian and Mexican tariffs. Look, we have a real problem. We had millions of people coming across our southern border. Mexico absolutely has to help us with that. And I think Americans are okay with that. They're willing to say, let's do the tariffs in order to get our border secured.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Mineral Deal Points to One Thing: China
That's a very big priority for the Americans. We saw that in all the polls. Look, inflation and immigration were the two biggest issues in every poll taken of voters. And so I'm not surprised that they're saying, yes, Mexico must help us or they will pay a consequence.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Mineral Deal Points to One Thing: China
And so I don't think we're going to see a big price increase. Look, the Atlanta Fed just did a survey, a study trying to determine how much prices would go up if tariffs were passed through 100% or even 50%. I frankly think actually any pass-through is going to be much lower than that. But even then, the pass-through was very low. So a 10% tariff does not result in a 10% price increase.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Mineral Deal Points to One Thing: China
A 25% tariff does not result in a 25% price increase. It's more like a 25% tariff, if half of that got passed through, would result in something like a 0.8% price increase. So very, very small. We're not talking about a revival of Biden inflation. We're talking about a price increase that happens perhaps once and then doesn't happen again. Remember what happened during the Biden inflation years.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Mineral Deal Points to One Thing: China
It wasn't just that prices went up when we came out of lockdowns. It's that they went up and then they kept going up week after week, month after month, year after year.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Mineral Deal Points to One Thing: China
Yeah, so you just hit on it. Look, we have to send the world a message that we're not kidding around about this, that the free ride they've been getting with a broken US trade policy is over. The American people voted against that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Mineral Deal Points to One Thing: China
And I think that's one of the reasons we're seeing these huge investments come in where companies are pledging hundreds of billions of dollars to build in the US because they know this isn't really just about Donald Trump. This is about a change in the way Americans look at global trade.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Mineral Deal Points to One Thing: China
So they're saying, so what companies, if they just thought they had to get through the next three years and then Donald Trump will go away and they wouldn't be investing hundreds of billions of dollars, they realize that the situation on the ground has changed and that we are now going to have much, we're not going to put up with what we did for, you know, basically throughout the Cold War and then afterwards.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Mineral Deal Points to One Thing: China
So the global trade regime is changing. Companies are realizing this. And look, yes, stocks are down. But you cannot allow the stock market to determine all of your policies. Why even elect a president if you're going to do that? I think in some ways, this is a very good test. If we were to back down in the face of stocks going down, what, 1.5%? The NASDAQ was down 1% right before we went on air.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Mineral Deal Points to One Thing: China
That's a bad day in the market, but it's not a catastrophe. There's no way.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
Charlie, great to be with you. Thanks for having me back. Everybody should understand that when we say due process, it means different things in different places. So the ultimate form of due process is when you or I are charged by the government with a crime. Then we get jury trials, we get Miranda warnings, we get the right to a lawyer. even at the government's expense.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
We have the right to appeal all the way to the Supreme Court, so on. That's not the kind of due process that illegal aliens get. They can get a fairly minimal amount of due process. Maybe all the right they have is to be presented for an immigration judge, have the right to claim that they're not who the government says they are, maybe get a right to
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
to go to a federal court after that, and then it's done, and they don't get a jury trial. It's not a criminal proceeding where the government has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the alien is here illegally. It's a much lower standard of evidence, and it can be done quickly and swiftly.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
It doesn't have to be that way. The reason why it's taking so long is because Congress for many decades has refused to pay for enough officials, refused to pay for enough border agents, refused to pay for a wall, refused to pay for enough immigration judges. If you could have more immigration judges, you could speed that whole process up.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
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The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
And I think that's actually in part what the Trump administration is trying to do. when it's trying to deport people under the Alien Enemies Act rather than under the regular immigration laws, is that they're trying to impress on everybody the need for speed and that the speed is really up to Congress. Congress has to provide more money.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
And Congress has said they always say they want to help fix the border problem, Well, here's their great chance to do it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
Well, this is why this other area that they're fighting about, impoundment and reallocating funding, downsizing the government, closing down wasteful spending, maybe you can move some of that money during this time of emergency. The one thing Trump has done is declared a national emergency at the border because of immigration. That gives him the ability perhaps to move some more money.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
Also, he has to, I think, fight with these wayward rogue trial judges who are, there are trial judges in the country who I think have gone beyond their constitutional role and are trying to interfere with the executive branch, with the president's rightful authority over national security and immigration. But at bottom, it's really a question of resources. You have to speed up these hearings.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
You have to speed up the detentions at the front level. And then you have to fight with the courts, go all the way to the Supreme Court if necessary, to make clear to these lower court judges that they don't have the right, as you say, Charlie, to turn it into a three-year process when it could be less than a year.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
It could be done quickly if there's cooperation between the Congress and the president and the courts.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
I worry what you see here are you got these district judges, some of whom want to press and create some kind of constitutional crisis by going beyond their role. At the same time, I think there's some people in the Trump administration who could also pull us away from the brink of some kind of confrontation.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
And I actually think the Supreme Court has intervened several times to give the benefit of the doubt to the Trump administration. So for example, when they told the trial judge in this Garcia case, you can't force the government to bring Garcia immediately into court. What are you going to do? Order the president to invade El Salvador and grab him out of the prison? They said, no, re-examine,
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
The government has to facilitate his return, but judges have to respect the president's authority under the Constitution into foreign affairs. Courts can't order the president to conduct diplomacy. They can't order the president to conduct national security. On the other hand, I think Trump has the authority to declare an invasion, but he needs to tell the American people and the court's
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
why we're under invasion, why we're at a state of war with Venezuela, why this Tren del Aragua group is a terrorist group that's acting as an arm of the Venezuelan government. The more he can provide that information, the easier it is for the courts to accept it, And then we can step away from the brink of some kind of confrontation between the president and the judiciary.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
I'm afraid that's right. I mean, part of what Trump really is doing here, I think he is doing and has to do, is to deter people from coming in the first place or to make clear if they hit the border, they're going to be turned right around and sent back.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
And so one part of that is showing that we're not going to have the open borders that Biden did, that we're not going to just catch people and release them into the country, that we're going to tighten up the immigration rule process.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
But another part of that is, as you suggest, Charlie, we have to start speeding up the role of the court so that they can't delay every single deportation into a three-year odyssey where people can spend years and years here while their lawyers just delay things in court. And so I think there is some value for President Trump fighting these rogue district judges all the way to the Supreme Court.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
but also being more open with the court and the American people about why he's doing this. That kind of deterrence, I hope, will prevent people from coming across the border in the first place. I think he's having a lot of effect there. Under Biden's worst months in his open borders policy, we were catching or encountering maybe 350,000 a month, illegal aliens a month at the border.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
You know what, Charlie, that number is down to 7,000 a month. That's an amazing achievement. And I think Trump has to keep this strong deterrent in effect in order to keep those numbers low and keep them dropping.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
It's very hard for people to understand, but the 14th Amendment's guarantee of due process doesn't only apply to citizens. It also applies to all people in the United States. So everyone in the United States, even people who get into the country illegally, have a right to due process. But the important thing for people to remember is that the level of due process can be different.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
The government and the courts have recognized that illegal aliens shouldn't get the same level of due process as, say, you and me, Charlie, if we commit a crime. That's why they don't get all the protections of the Bill of Rights that you would get in a criminal trial. That's why there is the ability to speed up the process to allow the government to present proof and to have evidence.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
The alien tried to prove that he's not here illegally or she's here illegally. But then if they lose, they should be deported quickly. Maybe it's the case that Congress should expand the number of judges, expand the number of border agents, but then make the due process even lighter and make the process proceed even faster.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
I'm afraid that's true. And this is really up to the Supreme court. Now it's a Supreme court's problem. There are about a thousand trial judges all around the federal trial judges sitting all around the country. Some of them obviously do not agree with president Trump's immigration agenda.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
They would be more than happy to have the Biden system where years and years and years are spent hearing deportation cases. It's up to the Supreme court and Trump is sending cases forward that give them the opportunity.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
to control the judiciary, to make clear that these rogue trial judges are not there to try to frustrate the agenda that the majority of the Americans support when they elected President Trump to speed up the immigration deportation system. That said, the judges there are there to make sure that the due process protections are observed and honored.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
And I think there is the possibility of a compromise between the two branches. The worst thing can happen is if these rogue trial judges keep slowing things down and frustrates the agenda that the majority of Americans voted for in the immigration area, And then that leads to some kind of unwarranted confrontation between the president and the Supreme Court.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?
I couldn't agree with you more, Charlie. Thanks very much for having me back.
The Charlie Kirk Show
China Should Have Read "The Art of the Deal"
What Trump is doing is a huge opportunity for China worldwide. These tariffs are a form of economic illiteracy. Trump has no idea, really, what he's talking about. He doesn't understand how tariffs works. So what he's doing has put us in a very vulnerable position and probably in the worst position possible. And it's just sad and depressing that more Republicans haven't stood up and said that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
BREAKING: The First American Pope
The vibe is insane here. There was a mass just crowd that just ran to the square.
The Charlie Kirk Show
BREAKING: The First American Pope
uh gently pushing and shoving i might add but people were respectful aware of the moment charlie i heard that you're sponsoring free lunches for all catholics that's wonderful if you were so grateful um just from a spiritual sense i i do think you know uh people in the square whether you're catholic christian whatever there's a certain sense of of the return of the Father, right?
The Charlie Kirk Show
BREAKING: The First American Pope
This representative, Catholics see him that, in that way, imperfect though he might be. And we're waiting for that man, that anticipation to come out, to stand on that loggia, and to give us his paternal fatherly blessing. Insane reality up here, Charlie. I ran across the square and just, my hands are shaking with excitement. I gotta admit.
The Charlie Kirk Show
BREAKING: The First American Pope
In many ways, unexpected. This is a very early decision. I mean, we thought maybe Friday. So the fact that there's a decision this quick, you know, it can mean that, you know, one of the front runners who we are expecting got the number of votes. So, you know, we're all here in anticipation, waiting. Absolutely packed crowd. People are singing, waving flags. There's bands playing.
The Charlie Kirk Show
BREAKING: The First American Pope
If you look around just around me, there's little perches of all the different news.
The Charlie Kirk Show
BREAKING: The First American Pope
outlets on rooftops just covering this this moment really for the world so you know the blessing that he will give there you see there the loja it's erby at orby that's a latin for to the city into the world he will give that wishing it you know the spirit of christ upon all of humanity so just a powerful moment uh to be here and uh yeah it's it's wild charlie i gotta admit
The Charlie Kirk Show
BREAKING: The First American Pope
Like Blake said, Benedict XV in the early 1900s is the first one that used white smoke. However, the tradition of actually using smoke signals, I do believe, Blake, correct me, that does go back to roughly 1325. So that's when the Pope at the time basically wanted to rein in everyone. What was the first place? He was concerned.
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BREAKING: The First American Pope
of having undue influences from outside, whether it be superpowers or you name it. So he gathered, sequestered the Cardinals for the first time in a key room, a conclave, so that they could carefully make a decision. And that's the birth of the smoke signal. But the white smoke was first used in the early 1900s. 1900s, yeah.
The Charlie Kirk Show
BREAKING: The First American Pope
Well, you see the Cardinals from the picture. Some of them are already gathered in the square. I also just ran into one on the way up the elevator, which means – They have had some time now to exit the Sistine Chapel, get into position with a crowd, which of course means that the new Holy Father is probably already in the Room of Tears, so to speak.
The Charlie Kirk Show
BREAKING: The First American Pope
That's the chamber that's adjacent to the Sistine Chapel. It's called the Room of Tears because that's where popes in the past, who once they've been chosen, officially accept. And yes, they do shed some tears. Why? Because they're acutely aware they're basically receiving a cross. which they'll carry pretty much until they die. So the new pope is in there. He's changing from the red to the white.
The Charlie Kirk Show
BREAKING: The First American Pope
He's already selected his name because he had to tell the cardinals, so the cardinals do know who it is, of course, and the name. And he will be coming out on the square, and you're going to have the archdeacon, a cardinal, who will say those famous words, Gaudio Magno, Annunzio Vobis. With great joy, I announce to you,
The Charlie Kirk Show
BREAKING: The First American Pope
There are, and this kind of builds on Lila's point. I mean, yes, on the fundamental issues of faith and morality, the Pope's not going to err. But the reality is the following. We did have a Pope. who caused scandal in the last pontificate, 100%. So why am I saying that now? Because we have a duty like St. Paul in the book of Galatians.
The Charlie Kirk Show
BREAKING: The First American Pope
He addressed Peter to his face when Peter on a prudential issue was going against ultimately what the Lord wanted. And Paul stood up to him. And that's the role. So it's not a slam dunk that we're going to get this amazing all-star representative of the Lord Jesus on that loggia. It could be quite the opposite. I'm telling you right now.
The Charlie Kirk Show
BREAKING: The First American Pope
Because, you know, newsflash, there are serious worldly influences who are trying to make their presence felt in this conclave. You have, first of all, you have President Macron, who was here for the funeral of Pope Francis. He met up with five different French cardinals, and he pretty much got his hand slapped and said, like, back off. Like, stop. Because, you know, he had his pick in mind.
The Charlie Kirk Show
BREAKING: The First American Pope
Then you have the Chinese Communist Party. they have a fantastic deal going on right now with the Vatican where the Vatican gave them, you know, the ability to choose bishops. There was probably some cashflow between the two entities. So you got to believe it that the CCP has their, has their pick. So this is not a slam dunk.
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BREAKING: The First American Pope
And you know, whoever that man is because of the short bandwidth, like you said, I do expect one of the front runners who we expected to be elected might be that might show up there. So,
The Charlie Kirk Show
BREAKING: The First American Pope
it's, it's, it's a very interesting times, which are, we're going to find out the next kind of like, like you just said, seven to 10 years of, of, uh, plan or program for the church of evangelization, uh, through the person that they choose.
The Charlie Kirk Show
BREAKING: The First American Pope
Charlie, yeah. So, I mean, you're looking, squares completely packed. Now, what you can see on camera is the Via Conciliazione, which is the main street that goes from St. Peter's all the way down to the Tiber River. That street was actually put in there by President Mussolini in 1929 as a gift to the to kind of create some grandeur and a view and et cetera.
The Charlie Kirk Show
BREAKING: The First American Pope
Well, that street is completely packed all the way down to the Tiber River. So you're looking at probably nearing 100,000 people and it's just growing. The entire city of Rome just like descended upon this. I was here, Charlie, in 2013. And by the way, I got my grandma too. May she rest in peace. She was also a... She was also an aficionado of EWTN. So we share that.
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BREAKING: The First American Pope
We share that in common, Charlie. But in 2013, I was here for Pope Francis' election. And we remember I was a seminarian back then, so I was wearing black and white. And I ran down two miles, hitchhiked part of the way from a kind Italian signorita. And she brought me there, and we were there. And I'll never forget the moment when Pope Francis did come out.
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BREAKING: The First American Pope
And it's probably one of the rare moments in your life where you're going to have the ability, Charlie, you know, crowds, you see crowds all the time. Imagine a Trump rally where you can get every single person in that room to be like dead on quiet. Okay. Well, Pope Francis did that. He was 90,000 people. Please be quiet and join me in prayer.
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BREAKING: The First American Pope
And to be there with two or three are gathered in, in my name, their mind, their midst. That's what's going to happen. People just in a few minutes, these people are gathered here in the name of Jesus. You know, so, And we're going to have that moment of prayer. And if you're watching online, you're sharing it in it to some degree. So you see the genuine excitement, okay?
The Charlie Kirk Show
BREAKING: The First American Pope
Because I do think it's not just fanfare and fluff and like you're seeing a rock star. There's truly a spiritual element going on here. Those people are standing precisely where St. Peter himself was martyred in 67 AD. That is the man that Jesus Christ called on the Sea of Galilee. He was martyred in that square, and he's buried now underneath the basilica.
The Charlie Kirk Show
BREAKING: The First American Pope
So people are standing on the holy ground of martyrs as we wait for this person who represents Christ here on earth for us to show up.
The Charlie Kirk Show
BREAKING: The First American Pope
Charlie, I'm not going to tell you what network I stole by sharing this part of the rooftop, so we'll leave that off camera. But let me just tell you, it's probably one of the best spots in Rome. So the best for the Charlie Kirk show.
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BREAKING: The First American Pope
I got a crazy proposal. You remember the 21 Coptic Christians? who had their neck slit and offered their lives for Christ. We just celebrated one of the 10th year anniversary. How about the new Pope choose one of the names of those martyrs? Why? To bring it home. That office, that role of the Holy Father, that is not some political position.
The Charlie Kirk Show
BREAKING: The First American Pope
They are there to witness to Christ, and if need be, shed their blood. That needs to be brought back to the church, to church leaders across the world of all faiths. We've lost that. We've gotten way too comfortable across the spectrum. Until you see men who are willing to just do like what Peter did, shed his blood for the Lord,
The Charlie Kirk Show
BREAKING: The First American Pope
We're not going to see massive conversions, and we need that today in this world.
The Charlie Kirk Show
BREAKING: The First American Pope
We're right there with you, Charlie. You had a great segment the other day talking about Islam taking over parts of Texas. That's right. They are a religion. Let's be honest. You got to go by the book. Yes, the principle, not every Muslim is bad. There are some very, quote unquote, virtuous Muslims. We get that 100%.
The Charlie Kirk Show
BREAKING: The First American Pope
But in terms of its philosophy, the Quran, it is a quasi-religion, if you can call that, of warfare, of conquest. And it does not sync with human nature. Okay, that's one of the defining characteristics of what a religion is. It must sync with the natural law. That's why Christianity, Judaism, they fit so well with what America is.
The Charlie Kirk Show
BREAKING: The First American Pope
So Sharia law, for instance, that diminishes human nature and the dignity of man and woman. So it's a serious issue. The longer we try to avoid it, the longer, you know, a bigger problem we're going to have. I mean, Charlie, step back, too. We're looking at this question of Islam in a 25-year little time frame. Let's go back to the first 1,500 years since Islam began.
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BREAKING: The First American Pope
Look at what Christians have done across Europe. Jack's an expert at this. 1683, the Battle of Vienna. Christians rose. I hear applause. What's going on, Charlie? Let's cut live.
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BREAKING: The First American Pope
Sort of. This guy came in the running the last minute. Now, to be quite frank, okay? Roughly three days ago, Charlie, in a span of roughly 36 hours, every single major, what you and I would call liberal leaning outlet, ran PR stories in favor of this guy. That includes the New York Times. I think the Guardian had an article. And this guy, a national Catholic reporter, which is like,
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the anti-Catholic paper. Okay. So all these guys, all these papers, all of a sudden did this huge ground support for Robert Prevost. Okay. So what does that, I mean, Where does that tell you about what kind of man this is? I mean, time will tell. I self-admittedly do not know him well. I have heard concerns about him that he leans in the direction of Francis.
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But, you know, let's give this guy, of course, the benefit of the doubt. He hasn't even come out of the loge yet. Let's just see, you know, who he is and how he will react. govern the church in this next time ahead. But just that is an interesting biographical fact that he shot to the head of everyone's thoughts and minds about three days ago.
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Okay, so there's the U.S. element. That's right. I mean, he's lived all around, born in the best city in the world, Chicago, where I'm also from, Charlie. You know, there's an American element here, too. And let me tell you why that might be. Again, like we've said before, traditionally almost never does a conclave choose a pope from the world's reigning superpower just for prudential reasons.
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But there's a pragmatic reality going on here. The Vatican is almost bankrupt, right? people stopped giving to the Vatican in the last 12 years. And honestly, it was well-deserved. I mean, for instance, we had money that we had given as Catholics across the world to the Peter's Pence collection.
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Pope Francis and his wisdom decided to give half a million to the immigrant migration bans that were coming across to our border. So Americans were rightly upset. Now, when you piss off Americans, considering that we fund... you know, I'm just taking a ballpark guess, at least 50% of the Vatican, okay? Well, that's not a good business model.
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So this week coincided with what's called America Week, when a lot of the bigger-name Catholic American philanthropists gather in Rome once a year, and they kind of discuss where they want to get their money, right, which is a great thing. Well, I know that they made their presence felt, saying, you know, we definitely want a pope who's going to bring things back. So who knows?
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That might be a contributing factor that, The conclave knew that it had to get the good graces of the American lady back there to help with their financial situation because obviously they do some good work, the Vatican does there, with the works of charity. So that might be an interesting angle about Huawei. There you go. You got the flag in the square.
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You got the red, white, and blue flying proud there. So it's interesting, Charlie. Time will tell about where Pope Prevost or whoever the name is. I missed the name. Or Leo XIV. how Pope Leo XIV will conduct his affairs.
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So we missed that under Francis. And a lot of times there was confusion about what did he really mean? He was speaking in Italian. He's speaking in Spanish. Well, we now have a pope who can handle himself well because he's going to be dealing with leaders from all over the world. And that is like what we know. It's the language of it's the new French. It's what politicians speak among themselves.
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So that report was essential, okay? You have, because of the number of cardinals who were named, we already know that a lot of them didn't know each other. It was the lady who basically took it upon themselves, specifically Edward Penton, fantastic reporter, and Diane Montano, who are actually standing right next to me. I put together that report. And they gave that to the Cardinals.
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They were literally standing outside those preparatory meetings and delivering those books to them. So those Cardinals were reading that, okay? That scorecard, which I briefly went through it. I mean, maybe, Charlie, you can kind of mention on air what that report grades was. Robert Prevost on certain issues, because that's very telling.
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I think honesty is the best recipe for true enthusiasm and hope. And I have to admit, I do have costs for concern, for great concern. Although what Father Frank was just saying, it's also true that, you know, a pope, someone can change once they've been handed the responsibility of 1.2 billion Catholics, right? But prior to this, I mean, the scorecard speaks for itself.
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You know, Poland in the 1950s, 60s, 70s, 80s made Carol Wojtyla, John Paul II. In the same way, Prevost, Pope Leo XIV, carries his background. And you said it yourself. What's his scorecard? He was ambiguous on same-sex blessings. I'm sorry, but the Bible is not ambiguous on that central issue. So he also, during his speech, you know, there was, you know, good and said a lot of the right things.
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I mean, but he did use that word dialogue. Dialogue, has been hijacked by the left inside our church and outside of our church as it's kind of a false idea that we can, yes, talk with the world, but never call them to repentance. You're going to laugh, but I'm looking behind. There's another rooftop, and on that rooftop right now is a priest by the name of Father James Martins.
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He's caused great scandal in the Catholic Church. And what does he run with? He was very close to Pope Francis, and he ran with dialogue. Let's welcome everyone in the church, but never call them in repentance. I'm sorry, but you can't do that. You must be like Christ and, you know, address their sins. So we'll see. You know, time will tell.
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Don't forget, if the New York Times or the liberal newspapers are running positive media about you, That should make you think twice. And that is what happened last three days with Cardinal Prevost. But, you know, I think, Charlie, it would be good at some point, maybe we offer a prayer in our own way for this man, for the mission that he is about to undertake.
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I mean, on his face, you know, it could be do some, a lot of good. Like father Frank said, there's, he's going to make some trips, probably the United States, which they have large gatherings, uh, But here's another thing to throw at you. We've had arguably one of the most confusing pontificates under Pope Francis. Well, what are the numbers shown?
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We've had a rise in the number of Catholic conversions across the country. So it's kind of a paradox in some ways that you might have a Pope who wasn't whatever, you know, more progressive, but yet you had all these conversions. So it's not necessarily symmetrical. It can help.
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for sure uh but you know that remains to be seen i think at the end of the day what's going to create conversions you know it's kind of like how trump won the white house it wasn't trump that won the white house he did of course on his personality but it was us who saw our task our own mission in this case it's a mission of holiness of getting to heaven and becoming christ-like
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which is going to create the witness and create more conversion. So Pope or not, American or not, gringo or not, holy Pope or sinner Pope, it's up to us. That's how we're going to make the change. I really believe that.
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Charlie, are you okay if I lead you all in a prayer? Just for what this means for Christians around the world?
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We ask the Heavenly Father right now to bless Christians around this world in this moment for the universal church. We ask Christians... to renew their love for the Lord. And may he bless us right now. Bless Robert Prevost and his role as Pope of Catholics around the world.
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And we ask that Our Lady be close to him and ultimately keep us centered on what truly matters, reaching heaven and bringing people there with us. In the name of Jesus Christ, the Lord, amen.
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The Left's Stinky Favorite Weapon + The Next Pope?
Great to finally be on the Charlie Kirk Show. What a way to do it. Right here from Rome with an incredible view of St. Peter's Basilica behind me. You mentioned conclave, Latin word for key. So what just happened about two hours ago, 136 men journeyed over to the Sistine Chapel designed by Michelangelo. They locked themselves in, all their electronics were taken from them. And what are they doing?
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They don't come out. Those cardinals don't come out until... They, together with Barrett, choose the man that will lead 2 billion Catholics around the world. So that's what a conclave is. This is a tradition that goes back almost really to the foundation of the church 2,000 years ago, and it's a special moment for Christians and non-Christians alike around the world.
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It is rare. So what's happening? Obviously, we know that Pope Francis died the day after Easter, right after J.D. Vance and him had that special moment together halfway. And then these past two weeks have been extremely, extremely important, Charlie, because, you know,
The Charlie Kirk Show
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Even if you're not Catholic, you probably understand that we've had a pontificate under Pope Francis, which has genuinely created a lot of scandal for Christians across the world. There's been a lot of just obfuscation on Catholic doctrine and biblical principles. And it's been a time these past two weeks for the Catholic faithful to voice their...
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their concerns, which they have in abundance, to these men and let them know, we wanna return to orthodoxy. That's been so essential, right? So these cardinals have spent the last two weeks hearing and meeting on their own. This is actually the first time that they have been gathered together in roughly 10 years. So they themselves,
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I've also had time to get to know each other, but now it's up to them. Like I said, there's no electronics. They've cut themselves off from the outside world. And it's time to listen. You know, I will say, Charlie, if you're not Catholic, you're like, wait, great. So what, what is this? This is like John 21 being lived out right before your eyes. That moment when Christ,
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told peter he told him two verbs he told him i want you to feed my sheep bosque from greek and i want you to shepherd poimane feed and shepherd the sheep christ needed peter to do that so what we're what these men are going to be doing they're going to be choosing that successor of peter to continue to lead to administer the catholic flock around the world
The Charlie Kirk Show
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Cardinal Mueller is the former head of the Doctrine of the Faith. He had a great statement. He said, look, people, this is not about conservatives or progressives. What we want is either an orthodox or we want a non-heterodox cardinal or a pope. In other words, we want someone that's faithful to traditions of what we believe for 2,000 years.
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You had Pope Francis who, you know, he danced with traditional things like the blessing of same-sex marriages on the geopolitical scale. He signed that horrendous deal with the, yes, Chinese Communist Party, which really sold out the underground church over there and gave the power to the Chinese communists, that ability to name bishops, something that's never been done, Charlie. in 2,000 years.
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So what are we looking for? We're looking for someone who's going to be what the popes are supposed to be. There's a Latin title for them, Pontifex Maximus. That literally means greatest bridge builder. A bridge builder for what? Between God and Jesus Christ. The day we fail to mention that name over and over again... It's the day that we have failed as a Christian religion, okay?
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So that's what we're looking for in a pope and also just even on a geopolitical scale. Charlie, you and I grew up in a time where we lived, got John Paul II, Ronald Reagan. Look what they were able to do to bring down the Iron Curtain, okay? Think think big. Imagine if we had a pope who was extremely supportive and understood, yes, the biblical principles of a border. Right.
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And what he could do to help President Trump and support him. And we're back in our country. That's just a small. Right. So that's what Christians have gathered all around the world here. The streets are literally packed, Charlie, right down here and praying that we get the man that is best to lead the church.
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You know, when you look at a pope and make the determination, how geopolitical should he be? Should he be involved in politics? It's almost the same question which you challenge your audience all the time, Charlie. If you are truly living out your faith, that faith has got to leave the church doors and will touch concrete realities of human existence, i.e. the political realm, right, to a degree.
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And you've rightly called out some pastors, priests, or whatever that have remained on the sidelines in the name of neutrality. But that's ridiculous. Because you're neither hot nor cold, I'll spew you out of my mouth. So a person, a Christian, sets out first and foremost with the desire to love the Lord and get souls to heaven. If he has that as his number one intention,
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he will have a geopolitical effect, right? Because it's gonna overflow. That love to help people find the truth, the truth will set you free, will touch the realities of human existence. So this has to be done. I mean, we have a world that's on fire right now. And President Trump,
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he needs all Christian leaders, but specifically the leadership of the Catholic Church, which has been such a central figure in the last... 2,000 years in civilization. We need that. That moral compass on the world stage the past 12 years. Hats off to President Trump for going here two weeks ago to be there for the funeral, to give that sign of respect for the office of the Pope. But it's time.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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We need that moral compass, and we need shepherds in this country, especially Catholic. I'm speaking for myself. We need Catholic priests and bishops who are going to be bold. It is not enough to be good because evil happens when good men do nothing.
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And thanks be to God, there were 58% of you Catholics across the country who partnered with Charlie Kirk and chased down Catholic ballots who did not sit back. And that is why we have a second chance in this country at saving it.
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The Left's Stinky Favorite Weapon + The Next Pope?
First of all, if you have critiques, good for you. Speak it up. We need it. We need to be challenged in our faith to be able to talk it back. Pageantry, it's not in say evil, right? Even in the inauguration, you look at all the pageantry around that. That's what makes it special, the special moment. We as a human culture, we need to celebrate, right? So we will see some of that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Left's Stinky Favorite Weapon + The Next Pope?
The tradition of the white smoke, that goes back to, you know, almost to 1247 when they started sending smoke signals out, right? Because it was so important that these men not be unduly influenced by worldly powers. They had to have a way to kind of send out a message outside that we have a pope.
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So when the white smoke comes up, which, you know, probably is going to be Friday or so, should be a short conclave, we hope. About 45 minutes later, the Pope will step out and he will give a blessing, urbi et orbi, Latin for to the city and to the world. It's a blessing for all of humanity to offer his benediction, right? So you'll see that in the next few days.
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It's a special moment if you can, you know, just to take it in and just realize the history of the place behind me. That is where St. Peter, the man that Jesus Christ called in the Sea of Galilee was called and he's buried there and we're seeing the continuation of of Peter's successors down to the present day.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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Spend five years in Rome, Charlie. Here's the deal. Everything is possible in Italy with la amicizia, with the friendship, okay? So if you know people, know the right person, it's like DC times 10, right? So we got a good place right over here, great view behind us. And if you can make it to Rome, I highly encourage you to do so. Thanks, Charlie, for covering this important topic.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Christians Need to Stand Up — Live With Riley Gaines at Dream City Church
Hi, my name is John Leggett, proud graduate of Phoenix First Pastors College, class of 2000. Hallelujah. If anyone remembers that school. James 1, verse 2 says, the gentleman from Utah stole my question, actually. But, Riley, he asked you. Charlie, I'm going to ask you because you've been through a lot of tribulation. I know you're working with President Trump right now.
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Why Christians Need to Stand Up — Live With Riley Gaines at Dream City Church
His faith has been strengthened, matured, and made more secure. I would like to know, how and how much has it improved?
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The Most Shocking Installment of the Trans Insanity Yet?
But we have Trump in office, which is terrific, but that's not enough. The woke never stop. So team sanity, we must work to win these elections on April 1st. Now, you can't early vote today, but tomorrow you can go vote and you can take 10 people with you because it matters. If we can get right now, there are there are conservative Moms for Liberty in Georgia candidates in Westosha running.
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And if they win, they could change this at the local level, too. So that's a huge option. And, you know, what's happening with judges, what we're seeing nationally, that's happening in Wisconsin as well. We need common sense judges that aren't going to legislate from the bench.
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And I'm sure, Charlie, I know you've talked about this, but there is a plan by the Democratic Party that if they win, if Susan Crawford wins, they are immediately going to gerrymander Wisconsin congressional districts immediately. so that two seats would be targeted and likely lost, and that could disrupt right now the Republican majority in the House.
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And you know what they're going to do if they get that majority. You know what they're going to do right away. They're going to go back to impeaching Trump. They're going to go after Doge. They're going to staff Trump any way that they can.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Most Shocking Installment of the Trans Insanity Yet?
And that's why this is so important, because all of the change that Trump is doing, which is tremendous, and I'm happy every day about it, but it is threatened by this simple race in Wisconsin, the state Supreme Court race. So if you voted for Trump in November, you need to vote for Brad Schimel on April 1st tomorrow.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Most Shocking Installment of the Trans Insanity Yet?
Hi, thanks for having me. Yeah, this story is actually insane. It's a story of Westosha, Wisconsin, which is in Kenosha County. And in December, this broke and I was able to work with the local community and parents. It's just insane. A biological male, 16 years old, obvious male, over 200 pounds, who identified as trans was allowed to change in the girls' locker room.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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Freshman girls, so these are 13 and 14-year-old girls, were terrified. This boy has alleged to strip nude, to leer at the girls while they were changing, and even alleged that he rubbed lotion on his genitalia to, quote, prevent chafing. This I had to do a lot of research before I even started to post this on X and start to sound all the alarms because it was hard to believe.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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It was hard to believe that this was happening in Wisconsin, but it absolutely was putting on a skirt and some makeup, putting a woman face does not make a boy a man. And this insane transgender ideology has just warped the mind of even the school staff.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Most Shocking Installment of the Trans Insanity Yet?
These girls, when they complained, the gym teacher told them to stop being dramatic and that it would be discriminatory to not allow the boy who was harassing and intimidating the girls to change. And so the girls started to try to use the gender neutral space, the family locker rooms. And when they did, they were late for class and they got unexcused absences and failing grades.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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They kicked the girls out of the gender neutral space, a space that the boys should have gone to. Instead, the girls were lining up trying to use it to escape from this boy. It's just insane.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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And then it gets even worse because this boy is alleged to have yelled at the girls, pushed the girls, even thrown one of their Chromebooks against the wall when they demanded that he get out of the space, that they told him they were uncomfortable changing in front of him. And the school took the side of this boy instead of protecting the girls.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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And, you know, it's just they were told they were not being inclusive and that it would be discriminatory. So their rights, their safety, their privacy came a distant second to this biological boy who identified as trans. And this defies all common sense. And to prioritize the feelings of this boy over all of the girls. And I just sometimes think my head is going to explode.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Most Shocking Installment of the Trans Insanity Yet?
But when parents wrote emails and then they complained, they were, of course, they were gaslighted. They were told, oh, yeah, we're going to take care of this. And then they didn't. And it just, there was a huge uproar. And Moms for Liberty members fought valiantly, going to school board meetings, demanding that this policy be changed. And instead, the school board voted five to two against
The Charlie Kirk Show
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to continue to implement the old Biden version of Title IX in open defiance of President Trump. And knowing that these executive orders were going to come, knowing that there was going to be a change in the definition back to there are two sexes, male and female, they still went forward and they continue to this day to advocate for policies that violate the executive orders.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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It is. It is. It's dangerous. It's psychotic. I would say it's assault. It's sexual harassment. And a Title IX complaint should have been filed by the school for these girls who were abused. And I completely agree with your assessment of these gender-neutral spaces. Because you know what? They've become places for biological girls, actual girls, to hide from the boys.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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And there's, there are not enough of them. And it's, so it's crazy. They don't want to go in the gender neutral space because in their delusion, they want to be affirmed as females.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Most Shocking Installment of the Trans Insanity Yet?
And that's, you were talking about the Deerfield case, and that's exactly what had happened in the middle school, where the parents who suffer from, you know, also some kind of delusion sometimes, they want their kid in the girls' bathroom. They want their kid in the girls' bathroom.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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This also in Sun Prairie, Wisconsin, again, 13 and 14 year old girls were traumatized, absolutely traumatized when an 18 year old male exposed himself, showered next to them.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Most Shocking Installment of the Trans Insanity Yet?
Well, there are some parents that have pulled their daughters out of the school. And there are two families that are fighting back, and they have legal counsel, and they are working with the Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty, who has just filed a Title IX complaint against the Wistosha Central High School, and they are fighting back legally. Many parents have pulled their daughters out.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Most Shocking Installment of the Trans Insanity Yet?
There are several emails going back and forth, parents going to the school, text messages that you can see that the girls have with their parents where they're saying, I don't want to go in the locker room. I'm afraid to go in the locker room. I do have to agree with you, Charlie. If this was my daughter, there would be hell to pay. There would be hell to pay. I would not rest.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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And I am treating this case like it is my daughter's and trying to fight back as hard as I can with Moms for Liberty. We are trying to fight for these girls. You know, they, we're adults. Where are the adults?
The Charlie Kirk Show
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That's a really good question, especially considering he's alleged to have threatened to shoot up the school. Oh, that's another element.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Most Shocking Installment of the Trans Insanity Yet?
We are doing so much. I'm so proud to be a part of this organization. And we often work with Turning Point in Wisconsin. So we really appreciate all the efforts that they're doing as well. The coalitions that are being built with the state and local GOP, it's amazing. And I've been witnessing this firsthand going all over the state of Wisconsin. But
The Charlie Kirk Show
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We have a Get Out the Vote ad that's been seen over 1 million times. We have invested in mom and dad ambassadors that travel the state that talk about stories like this one in West Docia and so many more. We talk about woke curriculum. A lot of people don't believe it's happening and they don't believe it's happening in their school. And we prove to them that it is happening.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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We're targeting over 300,000 low propensity voters across the state. There are 400 school board races. Those are very important. And so we are funding with our PAC, we are funding some select races. We are sending out texts. We have 22 chapters and each chapter and members are working to get sensible, common sense, conservative school board members elected.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Most Shocking Installment of the Trans Insanity Yet?
Where we have conservative school boards, this insanity just doesn't happen. And they return back to school. the basics and common sense. So everything is local. The more that you can do locally, the better. And we are supporting Brittany Kinzer in the state superintendent race, which is very, very important. And of course, we're supporting Brad Schimel and the state Supreme Court race.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Most Shocking Installment of the Trans Insanity Yet?
Right now, the Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty has filed a Title IX complaint with the Trump administration, and there is a lawsuit filed with two families. And, you know, I really think that obviously now with Trump in office, that There's going to be some effort, hopefully, to defund this county, this school district.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Ask Charlie Anything 224: Chinese All-Cash Buyers? Biggs for Arizona? Conquering California?
Hello, Charlie. Thanks for all you do. In my humble opinion, Carrie Lake should be the current Senate governor of Arizona, but that didn't happen because of voter fraud. And I am all for Andy Biggs, but in your opinion, has enough been done to clean up voter fraud in Arizona so that Andy Biggs and other mega candidates can actually be elected and put into office?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Ask Charlie Anything 224: Chinese All-Cash Buyers? Biggs for Arizona? Conquering California?
Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
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Ask Charlie Anything 215: Learning the Bible? Lefty Family? Solving US/Canada Relations?
I want to say grace to you, all of you who are at the Shepherds Conference. For me, it's the highlight of the year, so you have to know my disappointment in coming to you through video. It really came down to being the only option because I haven't had such a speedy recovery as I hoped to have. I feel great. I just... I lost a lot of strength by being seven weeks in the hospital.
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Ask Charlie Anything 215: Learning the Bible? Lefty Family? Solving US/Canada Relations?
I realize I'm on the last lap. That takes on a new meaning when you know you're on the short end of the candle. But I am all thanks and praise to God for everything he's allowed me to be a part of and everything he's accomplished by his word. in these years of ministry. Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Is It Time for Democrats to "Play Dead?"
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Is It Time for Democrats to "Play Dead?"
At this point in time, I don't believe they would come to a two-state solution after everything that's gone on. That wasn't the question.
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Is It Time for Democrats to "Play Dead?"
The Palestinians would take over, but they would let the Jews. Listen, listen, listen. Not forcefully. This is how they operate. This is how Muslims operate Islamically. They let them live under them in Jizya. They tax them, and they let them live, and they take that tax and give it back to them. How do you think the Ottoman Empire worked and lasted 600 years?
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Is It Time for Democrats to "Play Dead?"
How do you think the golden age of Islam lasted for 300 years? Because this is history.
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Is It Time for Democrats to "Play Dead?"
No, most definitely peacefully because that's what their basis is.
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Is It Time for Democrats to "Play Dead?"
Most definitely. Where? When the Hamas had Israeli captives. Have you seen the Israeli captives they killed? They're not.
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What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
The report reveals that there were a total of 26 confidential human sources in the crowd that day.
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What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
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Trump Lights Up The Fake News Media In Historic 100 Days Interview | Episode 33
Weeks is going to be critical. We're working on the big, beautiful bill, the reconciliation bill. A lot of work's gone into this already. You know, we've been working on it for over a year. And now is game time. The big developments are coming together. We're excited about that. I think it's going to be a great piece of legislation. It's going to solve a lot of problems.
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Trump Lights Up The Fake News Media In Historic 100 Days Interview | Episode 33
It's going to be turbo fuel, a turbo boost for the economy. And we're looking forward to getting that done. Florida, come on.
The Dan Bongino Show
Spending Bill Passes House And Everyone Loses Their Mind (Ep. 2440)
On Friday they said, quote, Republicans have decided to introduce a partisan continuing resolution that threatens to cut funding for health care, nutritional assistance, and veterans benefits through the end of the year. Every single word of that is a lie. Every single, they just made it up. They didn't read the bill. It's nonsense. People are not buying this.
The Dan Bongino Show
Spending Bill Passes House And Everyone Loses Their Mind (Ep. 2440)
You see the contrast between one party which is leading, moving the ball forward for the American people, and the other that is just screaming.
The Dan Bongino Show
Trump Shocks The World With Major Announcement (Ep. 2416)
I can tell you that reaffirmed even in the last week as I have talked to leaders of the Arab community. There will be no advance and separate peace with the Arab world without... the Palestinian process and Palestinian peace. Everybody needs to understand that. That is a hard reality.
The Dan Bongino Show
Dem Congresswoman Assaults Officer And Finds Out | Episode 47
It's the first black prime construction work company to have a prime contract anywhere in the United States of America. And that's critical, not just for Boa Construction, but for the lives that he's going to transform because he's hiring them.
The Dan Bongino Show
Dem Congresswoman Assaults Officer And Finds Out | Episode 47
racial hiring inside of the city of chicago take a look at cut two here mayor brandon johnson this is what he got caught saying push back on me and say you know the only thing that mayor the mayor talks about is the hiring of black people no what i'm saying is when you hire our people we always look out for everybody else we are the most generous people on the planet
The Dan Bongino Show
Dem Congresswoman Assaults Officer And Finds Out | Episode 47
I don't know too many cultures that have play cousins. That's how generous we are. We just make somebody a family member, right? This is how we are.
The Dan Bongino Show
Dem Congresswoman Assaults Officer And Finds Out | Episode 47
And we did some expansion at the airport, particularly in the cargo. And do you know there's never been a prime construction company that has led growth for an airport, particularly in cargo, anywhere in the United States of America? But Boa Construction received the prime construction contract at O'Hare under my administration.
The Dan Bongino Show
Another World Leader Schooled In The Oval Office | Episode 49
On this vote, the yeas are 215, the nays are 214, with one answering present. The bill is passed.
The Dan Bongino Show
JD Vance on Working for Trump, VP Harris and the Power of Memes | Episode 4
Musk is kind of this arch villain of late stage capitalism, and he seems like this clown and this buffoon. But like Alex said, this is a man who made a Sieg Heil Nazi salute, not only in public, but at a presidential victory party. It's good to remember that these are unprecedented times of mass criminality going on in the United States right now. And that like Trump, Musk is a pathological liar.
The Dan Bongino Show
JD Vance on Working for Trump, VP Harris and the Power of Memes | Episode 4
I wore stuff like that when I was a kid.
The Dan Bongino Show
JD Vance on Working for Trump, VP Harris and the Power of Memes | Episode 4
He's a sociopath and a ghoul. And I mean those terms very precisely because who else would use his own child as a sympathy prop while literally taking starving aid away from people all over the world?
The Dan Bongino Show
JD Vance on Working for Trump, VP Harris and the Power of Memes | Episode 4
He's literally killing people. Literally. People are going to die because of this madness. Literally.
The Dan Bongino Show
What Is The Government Hiding From Us? (Ep. 2387)
Let's talk about misinformation and how much money is being spent on it. The Biden administration collectively has spent $267 million to combat misinformation. Look at the increase in spending from 2017 when just $316,000 was spent on it. It topped out in 2022 at $75.8 million.
The Dan Bongino Show
What Is The Government Hiding From Us? (Ep. 2387)
The administration says, oh, we had to spend this money because so many people were saying things that were wrong about COVID. Well, yeah, and some of that came from the government.
The Dan Bongino Show
What Is The Government Hiding From Us? (Ep. 2387)
FBI Director Christopher Wray has announced that he is going to be ending his tenure as the FBI director earlier than the end of his tenure term, which, again, is not surprising. As Donald Trump has said, he wants Kash Patel to head up the FBI in the new administration. David Spunt, live at the Justice Department with the breaking news for us. David.
The Dan Bongino Show
Wisconsin Decides The Future Of The World | Episode 11 - 03/31/25
Every one of the 1.7 million Wisconsinites that voted for Donald Trump, you must come out and vote. If you haven't already voted, come out and vote on Tuesday. Talk to every friend and family member and neighbor that you know, every email contact, every text contact. Get them all out to vote on Tuesday. There's no reason that we can't have 1.3, 4, 5 million votes and easily win this election.
The Dan Bongino Show
The Mass Deportations Have Begun | Episode 31
First of all, I disagree with the judge. It was due process. That female had due process at great taxpayer expense and was ordered by the immigration judge after those hearings. So she had due process. Again, this is parenting 101. You can decide to take that child with you or you can decide to leave the child here with a relative or another spouse. Having a U.S.
The Dan Bongino Show
The Mass Deportations Have Begun | Episode 31
citizen child doesn't make you immune from our laws of the country. American families get separated every day by law enforcement. Thousands of times a day when a parent gets put in jail, the child can't go with them. If you're an illegal alien coming to this country and you decide to have your citizen child, that's on you. You put yourself in that position.
The Dan Bongino Show
Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
very unlikely that someone could get uh annual checkups and not notice a psa elevation over the past you know but this is what i typically would see in a va hospital where a patient hasn't had medical attention in 10 years presents to an emergency room with bone pain and then they find that it's metastatic prostate cancer but in the modern age of medicine especially
The Dan Bongino Show
Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
the fact that he was a former president, he had intensive state of the art care where we can see prostate cancer, you know, ten years in the past. So this is I mean, it's it's very unusual to hear that someone has prostate cancer where they're annually being followed up. And the fact that We just find it at a Gleason 9 is just pretty much unheard of in this day and age of medicine.
The Dan Bongino Show
See You On The Other Side (Ep. 2442)
Go. Dan, you're 50 years old. I congratulate you. I didn't think you'd make it that far, but you did. But now you're going to make it to 90 or something. But I just want to say happy birthday. You're a special guy. Happy birthday.
The Dan Bongino Show
See You On The Other Side (Ep. 2442)
How you been? You feeling all right? We hope so. You've been busy. I've been busy. I really have. I've been... We've been doing a lot. Your show's going great, huh?
The Dan Bongino Show
See You On The Other Side (Ep. 2442)
Man, I appreciate that I got the call from Guy. He said, man, you want to jump? I said, absolutely. Listen, Dan, you are, listen, you're a warrior. We all know that. But I wanted to say something that I think you've really brought to We the People.
The Dan Bongino Show
See You On The Other Side (Ep. 2442)
On top of being a patriot and a champion, the level of education that you have brought to the general audience on how to look at these circumstances and situations, how to make sense of chaos. even for me, has been enlightening many, many times, man. You are true friends of we the people.
The Dan Bongino Show
See You On The Other Side (Ep. 2442)
I know this is a massive, massive sacrifice that you're making to go take this job, but we appreciate your willingness to serve our country, even at great expense to yourself, which I will say is a reminder of how the Founding Fathers did it. They all gave up major things to serve our country, and I know you don't view yourself like that, but we certainly do, sir, and we're very proud of you.
The Dan Bongino Show
See You On The Other Side (Ep. 2442)
We consider you family, brother. Now you go out there and you by God, show them what you've got. Okay. This is Dan Bongino with a smile on his face. He's going to be grinning the whole time, but buddy, he's coming for you. Go fix these problems, man. If anybody can do it, we know it's you. God bless you. Thank you, John. I appreciate it. Thank you, John.
The Dan Bongino Show
Deranged Libs Go All In For Ukraine War and Govt. Corruption (Ep. 2423)
Well, I don't have any expectations anymore. I think we know exactly what's going to happen. President Trump has effectively surrendered to Putin before the negotiations have even begun.
The Dan Bongino Show
Biden Resurfaces In Mind Boggling Video | Episode 40
Tom, Tom, Tom, you were wrong, wrong, wrong. You went so North Carolina out. And Tom, Tom, Tom, you're going to be gone, gone, gone when that 26 election rolls around. Thanks for nothing, Tom. Go get them, Judge Jeanine.
The Instance: World of Warcraft Podcast
The Instance 669: Bug Hunters
Hey, Scott and Bobby. This is John in Providence, Rhode Island. Long-time listener of The Instance. Maybe first-time caller. I can't remember. Maybe I called before. I don't remember. But it feels like it's 2007 again because... I'm playing WoW heavily again for the first time in years, and I'm listening to The Instance, and I just finished The Office again. That's unrelated.
The Instance: World of Warcraft Podcast
The Instance 669: Bug Hunters
I literally only play WoW because of The Instance. I wasn't a gamer in 2007. I tried World of Warcraft. I found so many toxic people, and I hated it, and I just quit. But at the time, I followed pretty much everything Veronica Belmont did at the time, and she was on an episode of The Instance and mentioned the AIE Guild. And I figured, well, let me try joining that guild and playing.
The Instance: World of Warcraft Podcast
The Instance 669: Bug Hunters
And many years later, I had so much fun. For many years later, I had so much fun just playing WoW and questing with guildies and having them take me along on raids because I still kind of sucked at them. And I just built my love for WoW for so many years and then for gaming in general. And even when I fell off the WoW train, I still listen to The Instance up until the last episode.
The Instance: World of Warcraft Podcast
The Instance 669: Bug Hunters
And I'm just so overjoyed that the game that I love is back, and with this expansion particularly, I think, and that the podcast I love is also back along with it. So I just want to say thanks so much for bringing it back and for all the other great podcasts you do as well, but really have a quick mark against me. So thanks so much from Providence, Rhode Island, and hope you all have a great week.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
There's no way his face was stuck like this. Wait, you have a video of it, don't you, Cash? Just like in this one.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
No! I want to eat those! Wait, no, those are the LOL Podcast M&M's.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
Is it ya-ya? I'm trying to learn. Just go, raise your yaya. Ya ya ya. Good, Kenzie. That was good, right?
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
Wait, why is nobody on my phone? Wait, what do we do?
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
That would be me, Adley. I get to look at your like TikToks.
The LOL Podcast
Reacting To Each Others Liked TikTok’s
He's literally trying to intro bait you so hard right now.
The LOL Podcast
Are Boys Scared Of Tampons?
Alright, Kenzie, you get up here. Do you see how sweaty I am? Oh my. I'm literally sweating through my shirt. Okay, now listen.
The LOL Podcast
Are Boys Scared Of Tampons?
Y'all don't hold here when both the feet get in. Y'all bounce with me. Yes. Yes, five, six, seven, eight, one, bounce, three, five.
The LOL Podcast
Are Boys Scared Of Tampons?
When you basket, you go like this. No. Wait, the way you fell. The way you fell, like you fell. The way you darted down like a missile.
The LOL Podcast
Are Boys Scared Of Tampons?
Are you being for real? I need protection. Are you being so serious right now?
The LOL Podcast
Are Boys Scared Of Tampons?
It's been in a plastic wrapper. It's been in a plastic wrapper, yeah.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
I'm keeping the paddle upstairs where we're going to we're going to give him a spanking. Yeah, yeah. A little nice, nice ginger, ginger spanking for not knowing his constitution. But that's fine.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
It still wouldn't be called rural. But it was still like suburban. But it was suburbs. Yeah, it probably would have looked something like Phoenixville. Yeah. If a little bit more spread out. She goes missing in a public park in the city. That's a park. It's a tiny park. The park's still there.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
In fact, if we have time, I'd love to go down there and take a walk around because, again, the park is still there. That's not a missing 411 case by any stretch. The only thing that matches with the missing 411 profile about this one is that she was of German descent. Which, again, is just the most common... ancestry type in America.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Not most Americans, but the largest group in America, I think it's like seven. I want to say it's 17%, I think, is German American. And that is, if you look at a map of the US and you look at the dominant ethnic group in most of it, state by state, it's usually German. I'm surprised it's not Irish. Irish? So here's the thing. There are more Irish Americans than there are Irish people.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Yes, by far a large metric. I thing is, most of them came over between like the 1850s and the early 1900s. And for the most part, largely because they were coming over impoverished. I they ended up in the big cities. So Boston, New York, Philadelphia, D.C., those all have very large Irish populations. That's also what happened with the Italians.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
People who were born. People who exist. Yes, specifically the people who exist. And not the ones who don't. Welcome to the show. Welcome to the Lore Lodge. You might notice we're both wearing jackets. It's because it's chilly in here. It do be a little brisk in the lodge. Yeah, nobody has been here in several days. It is not warm currently at night, and this building is made of stone.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Most of them who came over here did so in the latter half of the 19th century or the early 20th, and they didn't have money. So they got jobs in factories in the cities or, for example, my family, they were contractors. Italians, the P&B knows they came over here, set up shop and they did two things. They ran restaurants and they built houses.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
My parents still live in a house built by my mom's great uncles. which is cool. That's a pretty cool thing. If I got it, I got to say, I was just at a family pork roast on on Saturday, which used to be at the local Italian American club. And then the Italian American club disrespected my grandfather. I who I'm not making any implications about the mafia here. The man hated the mafia.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
But he was a super highly respected member of the Italian community here. So apparently the IAC's pork roast looks pretty sad without the Pembino clan. Which, haha. But no, I was sitting and talking to a whole bunch of my cousins. It's kind of cool how much of our family really just got here and... stopped.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Yeah, that didn't happen with the Germans who mostly came over in the 1700s in the early 1800s when there was still a lot of land around. A lot of them came over here with money in their pockets, sold their farm in Germany so that they could start a farm here. And they were farmers historically. That's we believe the maddest side of my family were probably German farmers who got here in the 1700s.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
There's a little bit of a weird spot in my ancestry. I've been looking into it where there's a gap There's a spot where, like, we know there are Mattises here. We can't figure out which ancestor connects where. It's really strange. And that's, like, the late 1800s where that happens.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Also found out that one of my great-grandfather on my dad's side was, like, worked for Merck and had a whole bunch of patents.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
And somehow left no money to the family.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
I think it was that he, if I'm not mistaken, he ended up getting, remarrying, and I think he left it all to his stepkids. Which is a very Mattis thing to do, to be perfectly honest. That does not surprise me. We love our own familial slander on this show. My father would not disagree with me in any way on this, nor would my grandmother. Incredible. Honestly, probably neither would my uncle. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
I haven't spoken to my aunt in many years, as you might expect. I don't know why. I don't know what the problem is. There are cousins I have that I still haven't met. Yeah, I was at the pork roast for the P&B side. There were several occasions where it was very obvious that these people to whom I am closely related, these are second cousins. We didn't know who each other were.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Oh, yeah. Irish and Italian Catholics had huge families. My mother is one of ten, seven of whom ate it. Yeah. Yeah, my dad. Oh, by the way, these are people born between like 1958 and 1972. Yeah, same. Like three didn't make it. I if you if you want to know how how recent infant mortality being an issue in middle class white families was.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Yeah. So kind of crazy. But point is. Oh, yeah, there was my uncle Dante specifically who I used to live next to his brother or he passed. Get lived next to his brother. Had to ask me, I'm so sorry, but which one are you again? Yeah, my another cousin called my cousin Ben by his dad's name, even though Ben's dad had passed away years ago. Like, again, I'm almost 30.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
I think I have the, I believe, first cousin, if not second, who went to Radnor.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
I literally one school district over. Not even the end of my like, if you went up my street growing up, you were in Radnor Township.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Never met the kid. I don't know. I literally do not know my own cousin, even though he grew up three miles down the road. Life's weird, man. Yeah. So point being, the fact that most people in the missing 411 clusters are German is or have some degree of German ancestry is not particularly shocking because that's just most of the people outside the cities.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
They're either Anglo-Saxon or they're German. That's just most common. That's not weird. So that's really the only thing that connects Elsie Frothmeyer because, you know, she goes missing while on a walk. Her dad was a pastor. He was visiting a sick patient or a sick... sick member of the congregation, and she goes for a walk. She's supposed to be back in half an hour, and she's not.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
And I'll save the majority of the story for the video, but the point is, let me just tell you right now, this is a criminal case. It is not a missing 411 case. There's nothing weird about it. It's weird they didn't solve it, if I'm being perfectly honest, but it's also the Philadelphia police in 1934.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Also, they didn't have DNA testing. I think fingerprints were in their infancy. Blood testing was in its infancy.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Yeah, I was going to say, I think the most you would get was type at that point. So... There wasn't a lot. I think they could do a little bit to match hair. Maybe like type of hair. Yeah, I think it had to do with more like the chemical makeup of the hair than it did. Like they could match hair to an ethnicity. But I don't think they couldn't do DNA tests. DNA testing became a thing in 1998.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Yeah, that's when it became like a common practice. That's part of the reason for the JonBenet Ramsey case being so weird. DNA testing happened during that case. Part of the reason the boy in the box was eventually identified, we covered this one a couple of years ago, was because after 40 years, they finally could test his DNA.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
And it gave them nothing because they didn't have anybody's DNA on file that matched. The crazy thing about that case is I think 2021 or 2020, I believe, somebody did a DNA test and it got flagged by some international agency that holds DNA samples on cold cases so that they can try and... like test them against things.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
So when it went through Ancestry or 23andMe and whatever, it was like, oh, wait a second. This guy has a partial DNA match with this kid. And they were able to like be like, hey, can you have your mom take one? And she took one and they were like, hey, one of your uncles is the father. Which is crazy. Yeah. Just objectively insane. So Elsie Frothmeyer is, God, 20, 20 some years before that. What?
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
No, you're good. I'm just suggesting. Yeah, she's 20-something years before that. She walks into a park... And to be blunt, there's a couple of witnesses involved who I think did it. Because she's described as being an attractive girl. Standards might have been different, just to be honest. But she's described as being an attractive woman. She's found naked.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
She's found, obviously, with some physical markings. In my opinion, I think I know what happened. I'm going to go back through the case this week, obviously. But then a solid half of the other ones in that cluster are before that, that I'm talking about as in the potentially criminal. And all but I think three people involved are under the age of four.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Because it feels like selection bias. You know, like Elsie Frothmeyer...
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
doesn't seem like she was kidnapped by bigfoot which is kind of where i was going with like when david politis has missing forum one is evidence up on his bigfoot site come on guys i mean he's also you can kind of see it follow a certain trajectory in 2011 it's all very like was it bigfoot now it's suddenly was it aliens like come on man aliens aliens We're on aliens now?
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
God, the alien connection came out in the past couple of years. Okay, because I was going to say, I hadn't heard that up until right now. Which is why I'm thinking about naming this video Missing 411 The Criminal Connection. Yeah. Like, to just very... very directly call that one out. I guess I probably should do a video on the Alien Connection movie at some point. That would be a good move.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Yeah, by the way, because we're not doing premieres anymore... I can't redirect off of the video to my personal channel where we do the gaming streams on Friday night. We used to have, like, 300-some people watch those. Now I get, like, 30, which sucks. So if you don't mind, Friday nights at 6 p.m., turn on notifications for the Aiden Mattis channel if you are still interested in that.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Yeah. Speaking of history this week, this week, if I can manage to make it happen, we should actually have a missing 411 video. Not this Friday, but next week. We should have a missing 411 video that includes a history segment for the first time in ages. And it's going to be about the Lenape, which gets gets me excited because that's our local tribe.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
We were doing Sons of the Forest. We took a break from that to play some repo because, honestly, we just weren't having too much fun in Sons of the Forest building stuff and not following the story. I just kind of how it goes. Also, it got to a point where we were getting a little too white man in boat. Yeah, you know, like colonialism is when white colonizing spirit.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Yeah, we were like it started off as like, all right, let's play this story. And then it kind of became let's introduce civilization to these savages, which granted in the game Sons of the Forest, they are evil cannibals.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
As we've established, it literally is. Except in this case, they're actually evil cannibals. Yes. Some of it's the result of some genetic testing by not the natives. But that's not the point. That's not all of them. Some of them are legitimately just cannibals that want to eat people. Also, the game has oddly Christian themes because one of the enemy types is called a demon.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
And one of the ways you can fight them is by holding out a cross. It sets them on fire.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Yeah. But it's like, wow, that came out of nowhere.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
To what? To the forest. Oh. There's nothing. Nothing in the forest that is Christian themed. Interesting. So it's like interesting. Where'd this come from? It does open up into like alternate dimensions. The first one is very clear, like genetic testing gone wrong. The second one, there's some weird interdimensional stuff happening. And honestly, we haven't finished the game yet.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
We finished it back when it was in beta, but that wasn't it wasn't finished.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
So there was obviously something missing. I guess we're going to find out what it is at some point. We're going to find out. Also, those would do very well as like let's play edited videos. We just don't have anybody to do that.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
I don't know about story so much as video game that I was thinking of.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
I am apparently a very powerful deity. We're never beating the allegations.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
So Elsie Frothmeyer, very obviously criminal. Then there are all of the ones that are children and you look at it and even at the time people are like, for example, one of the cases we're going to cover is a kid named Bachman. I think he was like 23 months old or something. His parents are basically like, yeah, he disappeared from the house. And we only found out because our dog came and got us.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
And one thing you might know about you might not know about southeast Pennsylvania. One of the really nice things we can say here, you may have heard the phrase you are on stolen land. Now, without getting into the politics and the the the history and context surrounding that phrase, we live in one of the few places where there is not a single argument to be made that it was stolen.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
A dog we had left tied to a tree. And after a few weeks of the police trying to figure out what might have happened here, because keep in mind, very small populations in 1883 in rural Pennsylvania. Like, even the neighbors are like, we think the parents know more than they're letting on. And the parents are like, no, we don't. What? Another one of the cases, a couple of kids.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
And again, like there's a lot of options you can go to before you get to Bigfoot or anything supernatural for that matter. You know, it's like, yeah, OK. This was a time period when children were actually rather frequently bought and sold.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Good afternoon, fine gentles and lades.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
passively i guess you could say it's amazing how commonplace that not only is today but how much it was in the past yeah and at the time it wasn't even necessarily like trafficking in the sense we think of it today oftentimes it was a family that couldn't have a child wanted a child and instead of going to an orphanage they bought one from another local family and
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Which you can question the morals of the whole thing, but at the same time, it's like, well, if you have a rather wealthy family that wants a kid, and you have a rather poor family that's willing to give one up to provide for the others, it's not evil. It's probably not what I would consider moral, necessarily, but... Depending on the situation, it can be a good thing.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Depending on the situation, it can be a bad thing. If you're a coal mining family with eight kids and some wealthy family from the nearest city comes out and says, hey, we're looking to adopt a child. We're willing to pay you $500 if you're willing to part with your baby. And keep in mind, this was a time period when records were not nearly as well kept.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
You could very easily say, oh, well, the kid just disappeared or, you know, basically that's what I think happened in a lot of these cases. And also the family sold the kid. And then everybody was like, yo, where the hell is the kid? And they were like, it just disappeared.
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Yeah, and then if you look at... Again, sorry to keep coming to the boy in the box. Ah, there's something in my teeth. Sorry to keep coming back to the boy in the box, but based on the testimony from this person who, again, I was able to track down and prove was who she said she was and that her parents were who she said they were, the police were even able to find the house.
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William Penn got it in a charter, came here and asked the Lenape what a fair price was. And they gave it to him and he bought it. And that is one thing that makes me proud as a person from the Philadelphia area, a Pennsylvanian, is we we had like one of the best founding members of this country from the very beginning with Billy Penn.
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They just ended up looking in the house next door instead of the right house. Mm-hmm. I know I was right because an international detective agency called me and told me I was right. Still great. Yeah, so... He appears to have been kind of in the same situation. I don't think that he was sold because his parents were being malicious.
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It appears he was born out of wedlock to an Italian Catholic family. I...
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Yeah, and I mean, my parents weren't married when I was born. I have never once suffered from it. Yeah. But I am aware that even back in 1997... That was not viewed favorably. Yeah. Now people don't really care. Yeah. Like now it's kind of whatever it happens so frequently, which again, not commenting on whether or not that's a good thing. Just, you know, I think the fact that we don't,
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treat children poorly because of the circumstances of their birth is a good thing. Yes. To be very clear. But with the boy in the box, it seems like the Zarellis sold him to this other family who were on the outside upstanding citizens. They had a daughter already. They just wanted a son. They were one was a teacher, I believe, a math teacher. The other, I think, was a librarian.
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They lived in a nice neighborhood at the time. This was also like the Fox Chase area at the time. Very, very nice area in Philadelphia. Today, it's a little more run down, but it's not Kensington. I had a girlfriend in college who kind of joked that she was from like the bad part of Philly. I'm not sure how much of a joke it was, but when I got down there, I was like,
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This is just a middle class area. Everyone here owns a car. Like these aren't even twins. These are just straight up houses. Yeah. I grew up in a twin. This is a fine neighborhood. What are we complaining about here? Granted, you went a couple of streets over and it was like. But ostensibly, this was a well-to-do family. Not wealthy, but stable.
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And then according to Martha, their daughter, who eventually came forward and told police all these things that the police then were like, ah, well, you've told us a very detailed and certainly corroborable story if we put in the effort. But you have anxiety. Can you be trusted? Can you really be trusted?
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I remember I even said to the woman from the Vidoc Society, something along the lines of like, yeah, as I've been writing this, I've been trying not to put too much blame on the one officer. I'm sure he was a good guy and a good investigator. He was just kind of a product of the time. She was like, no, you can say whatever you want about him and it'll probably be true. I was like, okay, cool.
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Really? Oh yeah, apparently this guy was not Not a great cop. Not necessarily like a bad person, but also not somebody who should be lionized by any stretch. Unfortunately, if Martha's story is to be believed, the main reason they bought this child was not because they wanted a baby boy.
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And it was very wrong of us to ever build a building taller than his hat.
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It was because they were complete deviants and perverts who were doing unspeakable things to these children and also potentially part of a satanic cult. Just about the worst thing that could have happened. Yeah, but the way she described this child's death pretty perfectly lined up with the injuries. And this was in 2002. Yep. And she was living in Cincinnati.
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She wasn't getting the Philadelphia Inquirer. And she had been in Cincinnati for a long while. She had moved to Ohio basically as soon as she got to college. And she had told her college roommate this story in the 80s. Yeah. Maybe it was probably earlier than the 80s. It's probably the 70s. But she had told her college roommate this story, an abridged version of it. Yeah, that's what it was.
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She told her roommate in, I think, the 60s. She told her therapist in the 80s. And then in the early 2000s, as this case was because of the DNA testing in 98 and 2002, as this was getting wound up again. She goes to her therapist again. She's like, hey, I think I want to come forward. Her psychiatrist. And she goes, I think I want to come forward. I want to tell the police what I know.
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So the psychiatrist contacts the Philadelphia police. They fly out to their detectives to Cincinnati. And then they sit down and they interview her. And they actually, to be quite fair, they do follow up. They do go and look at these houses. Unfortunately, they went to the wrong house. And so they were like, ah, well, the house doesn't match the description she gave, so we can't trust her story.
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Yeah. And then we didn't win a championship in any sport for decades. And then they built the Comcast building and somebody put a little statue of William Penn at the top and we started winning things. So I'm just saying curses, curses are real, especially when they have to do with a Quaker's hat. He was a good man. His son's not so much.
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Even though everything else about the story was corroborable, down to basically anything except the kid dying. Which just drives me insane. I don't remember how we got here.
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Oh, really? Yeah, everybody else is under the age of four.
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Right, we were talking about that, and then we got to selling children. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice. Cool. Benevolent trafficking, you might say. Don't say that. Don't... No. Bad. I shouldn't have said it either. Moving on. Yeah, most of the cases... Again, in the previous episode on it, I was like, yeah, the kids got lost wandering around in the woods.
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It's not a big deal for a child to wander two miles in 24 hours.
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There's the one kid from somewhere out west who it's like Les Stroud tried to recreate the route he took and Les Stroud struggled to do it. That's one where I'm like, okay, that's weird. That's definitely for those who don't know Les Stroud. There was a show called Survivor Man that was very big when we were kids.
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As far as, you know, like reality TV goes, we probably watched way more than we should have. Yeah. And the concept of the show was they would drop Les Stroud off in some whack ass place with the bare minimum for survival equipment and a couple of cameras. This is before GoPro, everybody. He did not have a cameraman. It was just him. By himself. He was what Bear Grylls pretended to be.
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Because Bear Grylls had a camera crew and there's pictures of him eating pizza while off camera. Les Stroud would hike across 30 miles of jungle with nothing but a hatchet and a compass and a tarp and end up where he needed to be to get picked up by the rescue team. That was the show. He couldn't do it. or at least he struggled to do it. Yeah. I can't remember the exact details.
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I'll get to that one eventually. Um, yeah.
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It is so like even a Valley Forge park, a kid could wander across the entire park in two hours without doubt. It's, It's a national park. It's not like a big forested one, but it's a national park with woods. It would not be hard. And so I look at all these stories. I'm like, OK, well, yeah, the kid disappeared. And yeah, it was in the woods. And yeah, they were found a couple of miles away.
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And the kid couldn't articulate what happened because they're two. Yeah. Or when they do articulate what happened, they say weird stuff that it's like, OK, well, this is a two year old trying to explain something to you. And sometimes, don't get me wrong, the two-year-olds do say weird things like, ah, I was taken care of by a bear. You're like, what?
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But in most cases, it's just like the kid couldn't articulate what happened because the kid was under the age of two.
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We will. We will. But yeah, I'm excited to do a video covering basically the first tribe that people encounter here in Pennsylvania. They are an Eastern Algonquian. They are kind of a weird spot, too. Because the Lenape aren't the Powhatan, nor are they like the Wabanaki Confederacy. You know, the groups that come from Maine, Newfoundland, all these areas.
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That's what I'm working out with this current set. I think I covered like 13 cases in the first one. Roughly, yeah. I think there's about 10 in the second one that were more criminal than anything else. There were a total of, I think, 39. Okay. I... I'm trying to remember. I don't think all 39 were actually covered in the book. Some of them were just named. That's the thing.
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At this point, we're down to half.
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That's the other thing. I think five or six of them aren't in Pennsylvania. They're in New York and Maryland and Ohio. Look, if we were talking about Delaware... And you're like, yeah, there's these 16 cases in Delaware, and then there's this one in Kennett Square, which is, for those who don't know, just north of the Delaware border. That's reasonable. Delaware's a small state.
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I think it's, like, 80 miles long? Something like that? And a lot less wide. Okay, cool. No, when you're talking about a case that happened in, like, I... Central New York, I think it was somewhere, it was like 40 miles northeast of the Pennsylvania border in New York, so northeast. You can't say, oh, well, that's in a cluster with something on the border of Ohio.
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Pennsylvania, how wide is Pennsylvania? I will check. Can you look up for me? Also, while you do that, I don't know for certain, but I did just receive this text from somebody who works in government, and I felt like maybe it should be... I will confirm 283 miles wide. Yep. Good Lord. Yeah. So that's not a cluster. That's two completely disconnected cases.
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That is not the roaming range of a Bigfoot.
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But I did just receive this text from a government official. So I figure I should probably get somebody who I know works in counterterrorism, or at least doesn't necessarily work in counterterrorism now. But that was his master's program who just we received a screenshot from him. Important. There's a report that ISIS is planning on conducting attacks in the US between mid-March and April 7th.
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They plan on attacking smaller towns, smaller city hospitals using vehicle-borne explosive devices and intend to be intend on taking hostages. ISIS will take responsibility for these attacks. Please be careful and aware. So I don't know yet how serious that is. I'm going to text my buddy now to ask.
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So I just said, is that for real? Like, should I tell my audience right now? Seriously, we will see what he says. Yep. But because I have a platform, I have a responsibility. Yes. So. Yeah. So, I mean, with these with the missing 401 cases, you'll see a lot more of it in Friday's video. I don't think any of the ones that we're covering this week are going to be. Weird. Weird.
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I do think they're criminal for the most part. They range between like potentially criminal to definitely criminal. I don't know how I'm going to lay it out yet. I might do it that way. Like these ones seem like they could be criminal. These ones are criminal or I might go by age group or I might go by location type. I'm not sure yet.
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But the thing that I've constantly seen that's missing is ironically the missing 411 profile.
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In PA? Yes. Michael Malinowski. He's one. Emerson Carbaugh, I want to say, is the name. He's another. Where these guys are older. One's 37. I think one was in his 50s. both went missing in wilderness areas. One went missing while hunting.
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Also, if you're mad at me for how I pronounced Newfoundland in the video last week, I'm going to pronounce it the same way in the one that's coming out this week. It's because no matter how I pronounce it, somebody yells at me.
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The other one, and this is where... This is one of those spots where David Politis drives me nuts. He opens the video by saying this guy, who I believe was from Trenton, went to a psychology conference. I think he was a professor at one point. Went to a psychology conference in Westchester, Pennsylvania. I went to my... I started my master's program at Westchester.
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I'm currently not active because... this. I'm getting to study whatever the hell I want to study. That's kind of the dream when you're an academic. So, but I'm very familiar with Westchester. I grew up, half my family lives in Westchester. I grew up going there. I've been to sports events there. I ran track against their high schools. Like, I'm very familiar with Westchester.
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And he says that Westchester is near the Pine Creek Gorge, also known as the Pennsylvania Grand Canyon. Aiden, do you know where the Pennsylvania Grand Canyon is?
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Yeah. If I'm not mistaken, Tioga County? Yeah, it's... Williamsport is far closer than Westchester. And Williamsport's still far. Yes. Like, this place is... You... You almost can't get further away from Westchester in the state of Pennsylvania. You'd basically have to go to Erie, which is on Lake Erie. Westchester is like 30 miles from Delaware. Whereas the gorge is like 30 miles from New York.
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Yeah. These are not in the same place, David. It's 2011. You had Google Maps. Yeah, I don't know. Like, how did you make this mistake? These are not in the same place. This guy drove like six hours to get to the Pine Creek Gorge from Westchester. It's a long way. Now, granted, is the disappearance weird? Yes. It's weird.
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I said Newfoundland. I've said Newfoundland. I've said Newfoundland. I've done everything I can, and it's always wrong. I mean, here's the thing. I had to pronounce Icelandic terms. You guys can bug off when it comes to Newfoundland.
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So that's what I'm either going to do, like, because I think there's really only two or three. Okay. And unfortunately, with the Malinowski one, there's, like, two newspaper articles about it.
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one he talked to one his family talked to a local New York paper local to where he went missing and the other was basically a Philadelphia Inquirer reporter talking about how weird it is that his family only gave an interview to one small town paper in New York which again is why I've been oscillating back and forth between like do I put this in the potentially criminal video or do I put this in the potentially supernatural video
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I don't know. So, oh, Alex is calling me. Hello? Hello? Yeah, are you in your car? Okay, yeah. right well yeah of course which is we we did mention it but uh we we decided against uh in you know stirring up panic you know it was a hard decision panic would have done great numbers but uh we decided to be responsible i just wanted to make sure that this was a legitimate a legitimate concern uh
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So that I could, yes, I could tell people like, hey, just kidding. If it wasn't a legitimate concern, but I trust you. I don't think you would send me fraudulent information. All right, cool. Well, I'm actually live. I'm live right now. So I do have to run, but I will give you a call in like 40 minutes. All right. Talk to you soon. Bye. So it's a real thing.
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He says not to freak out, but also be on the lookout. Yep. Just about what we said earlier. Yeah. Yeah. Again, panic would have done numbers, but we're not that kind of channel. I did see a video today. Oh, this is one thing I wanted. If you come across a video on YouTube, like a short specifically, that is one of those nonsense conspiracy theory videos, I'm looking at doing shorts about those.
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Please tag us so that I can find them. Because the problem is my algorithm is too focused on video games and stuff about the mechanics of World War II aircraft right now. I don't know why the latter one. I was going to say, because the latter sounds like mine. Yeah, no, it's basically all Mountain Blade Warband or animated stuff about World War II.
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Yeah, right? Mountain Blade Warband just came out with a pretty cool announcement that I'm excited for. Unfortunately, despite being about Vikings, essentially it did not help our video. Yeah, I don't know what's going on with YouTube. They just hate us, but we complained about that last week. So yeah, there's a couple of weird cases. At least one will get its own video. I don't know.
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I will do that. Roxy, if you're watching the show... We'd love your approval to use your version because I tried to say the Kensington Runestone inscription in the actual... It's not really Swedish or Norwegian. It's just kind of a hodgepodge of Scandinavian. I tried, and I just sounded like I was reciting Sabaton lyrics.
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Malinowski might cap off all the potentially weird cases video. And then I think Emerson Carbaugh is getting his own. But yeah, with Malinowski, it's like, there's two articles on this. Exactly two. Happened in 1996. They're long. They're just... There's not enough in them. And I wasn't able to dig up. I had Mikey file a FOIA request.
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And they basically were like, yeah, we don't have any information on this. The state police. 96, really? Yeah. Well, again, I think they chalked it up to being a suicide. Oh, got it. Yeah. Sorry. A self unalive. Sorry, YouTube. I know you're sensitive about that word these days. Sensitive enough to drop our impressions by 50%. for over a month.
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Yeah, no, it's totally fine that people can just get on here and lie. But no, we talk about a tragedy in a historical context, and that's apparently against the rules. Anyway, we have Super Chats.
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There's at least two in this building right now. I just want to be very clear. Don't come here. Uninvited. Uninvited. If you're invited, feel free to come here. Just like it. I wanna be very clear. Do not come here looking to hurt somebody. You will leave in a body bag. Like... I know it's just a joke, but I wanna reiterate that. Do not come here in Minecraft. Listen, therapy's expensive.
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I don't wanna pay for it. I probably should. Realistically. Do you think I'm going to boom and not need to go to therapy about it? Oh, fair. I'm not a psychopath. Yeah, that's valid. I mean, I might fantasize about retaking Constantinople, but it doesn't mean I wouldn't need therapy over it.
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Probably most things that came out in the mid-2000s. Really? Oh, the DOD was going hard in Hollywood. Like what? Uh, it was mostly stuff that wasn't an actual enemy. Like I think battle Los Angeles, for example. Oh, okay. See, everyone was like, the army is so cool. Yeah.
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That was the 90s. Or early 2000s. That was like pre-911.
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Yeah. There was definitely... I'm not saying there weren't anti-war movies. Just like, there were a lot of pro-war movies, and especially video games. Oh, yeah. Video games, for sure. Dude, Call of Duty was just straight-up propaganda, and I loved every minute of it. Yeah.
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And also, if I try to do it with a just general German accent, that won't work either, even though I took German for five years. Because... I speak German with a Russian accent. How? I have no idea. This has puzzled myself and every German teacher I've ever had. Like in high school, my German teacher was like, it's better than speaking German with an American accent. But also what?
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No, I miss, you know, like, Ramirez last mag make it count is burned into my brain. The what? Ramirez last mag make it count from the White House mission in Modern Warfare 2. God, what a great series of video games. Oh, I miss it. Anyway.
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We didn't shoot one, did we? No. I'm scared to. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Is that going to be on April 1st? I don't know. You want to check?
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Well, thank you for using the discount code. That helps us, and we're glad it helped you. Also, really affordable headphones, like earbuds. Yeah. I think they're like $60. Yeah.
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He wants you to think Bigfoot's taken people of the national parks. Yes. Bigfoot isn't taking people in national parks. At least not that many people. He might be taking some. I mean, the natives almost ubiquitously say that Sasquatch steals women.
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Like, all the stories. Yes. It's kind of crazy.
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Yeah, you know, you remember the hill people who live in the Vale in Game of Thrones? Kind of like that. Yeah.
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Which I will give David credit on that. From what I understand, his position on Bigfoot is much closer to that. Oh, really? That's from what I understand. Don't quote me.
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So it's like 55 degrees in here right now. Yep. That's what we're dealing with. We're also still vaguely sick. Yeah. That's part of it as well. And I just learned that Aiden's high school didn't make him take a U.S. government course. So everybody in chat make fun of him for not knowing
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There are, I mean, we've had it confirmed from people who live, like, next to the park that to this day there are wild men who live out there who just, they're not, like, feral people. They're just, they're bush people.
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Yeah, or with a lot more interesting religious bent. Yeah, that we just don't know about.
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Or at the very least that you can communicate and they're not trying to eat you. Yes. A mountain lion, if you aren't armed, you're kind of screwed. Yeah. Like, the only way you're not screwed is if you're incredibly lucky. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. If you see it, from what I understand, if you see a mountain lion in the wild, the best thing you can do, assuming you're on a trail.
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is begin going back the way you came but while facing the lion so just you you make yourself big you make a lot of sounds and you back away yep thankfully they're not the type of predator that hunts with a pack so you don't have to worry about one coming up behind you um so that's why it's very important not take your eyes off the one in front of you
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Yeah, and also if you turn around and run, it will chase you. Yes. That activates its prey drive, and you're probably done. Yep. If one does attack you, it's best to try and let it bite your non-dominant arm and then beat the hell out of it with your other hand.
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That's really your best. If you got a metal flashlight on you, that's probably your best bet is give it your one arm and bash it with your flashlight.
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Yeah. Because that's not going to end well. No. Again, carry a gun. Just carry a gun in the woods. Especially if you're alone. Yeah. There is never a downside to having six rounds of .357 on your hip. the only possible downside is weight. And in that case, uh, Ruger just came out with, or is coming out with a, uh, nine millimeter, uh, polymer that is supposed to rival Glocks.
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No, no, no. See, here's the thing. I might cut it as a spy because nobody would be able to guess my country of origin. An American who speaks German with a Russian accent who has never been to Russia in his life. That's a hard one. You pin that one down. Yeah, would be interesting. Am I a Russian spy or an American spy, Aiden? Which one am I?
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And they are only $500, which is like crazy cheap for something that's supposed to be on, on par with Glock.
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Uh, Nine mil is not the most powerful round by any stretch, but it's serviceable and it's a double stack. I think it carries 15. It's really the upside of nine mil is that you can carry more of them. 357, you're basically only using a revolver, but that's probably one of the better rounds. Yep.
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But yeah, you know, either if you got to carry a traditional handgun, probably want to look at either nine or 10 mil or 45 ACP. And again, the worst thing that happens is you're carrying an extra two pounds. As opposed to dying.
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Now, granted, if you're going somewhere like Valley Forge National Park, you're probably fine in Valley Forge. But if you know that there's mountain lions or bears or wolves or really even coyotes. It's probably best to be armed. Yeah, I was armed while we were going up to Spence Field. Yep. I had a 45 on the little one. Because I'm crazy like that. They have a three and a half inch barrel.
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Yeah, you're really more in danger. And when I from what I understand with bears, it's you're really more in danger in like late winter, early spring.
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Out east, you're probably not going to run into an aggressive bear. No. If you do see bear cubs, stay the hell away. They're adorable. Yes. That is the one thing that every single time will make a black bear charge you. Yes. Every other time... They're probably gonna walk away from you.
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Yeah, they know that humans are dangerous. Yes. Grizzlies, on the other hand... have decided we're not as dangerous as they are. Yes. And most of the time, they're right. Yep. You need all six rounds of 357 if it's a grizzly.
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Thank you. I appreciate it. Also, the Friday videos, the video essays... As of this week, have started going up. They are going to go up. I don't know exactly what frequency. Try every week. Yeah. But we're going to want to catch up at a certain point, I would assume. We actually don't really need to. I guess they can be old.
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I think people are going to assume you're a Russian spy. Exactly, but then I am very clearly an American.
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Yeah. So they started with the giant of Kandahar episode, and those will be following through. They are video format, I believe.
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So Lore Lodge is now on Spotify under the Lore Lodge. This show is the Lore Lads. Yes.
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I prefer my milk to be of a dairy variety. Please don't milk people and send me the product. Isn't... Isn't all milk dairy? I thought only cow's milk was considered dairy. But now I'm realizing that might just be a misconception in my head. Yeah, I... Cow's milk. Bovine. Bovine variety milk. There we go. Preferably from the females of the species. Right.
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And if you must send me milk of another sort, I will accept sheep and or goat.
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I don't know. I feel like I could pull it off in South Africa. Yeah, nobody knows what's going on down there. Have you ever spoken to a South African person? Yes. It's an accent. It is an accent, all right. It is one of the accents of all time. It's fun. It's a fun. Don't get me wrong. I'm not insulting it at all. It's just like, are you English or Dutch or Swedish? What are you?
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Do you know why the Senate doesn't work now? What do you mean? Do you know why the Senate is a stupid governmental body at the moment?
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Because, I mean, everybody always complains like, oh, why does Wyoming get the same amount of senators as California? Yeah. It's because senators aren't supposed to represent people.
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Yeah, they're supposed to represent the state government. Yeah. There's only one state government in each state. And then the 17th Amendment happened. And they were like, well, what if we just had a second disproportionate body of government in Congress?
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No, the Senate. Because the House is proportional.
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This is more for the audience's benefit than yours. It's just like the reason the Senate doesn't work. Which camera are we on right now? Main one. The reason the Senate doesn't work anymore is because the Senate isn't supposed to be elected by the people. That's not a bad thing. That's just the way it was supposed to go. It's not supposed to represent you.
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It's supposed to represent your state's government.
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No. No? No, they were very clear that parties weren't supposed to be a thing at all. Well, yeah, early on, yeah. But the idea was that it was basically going to be two more experienced politicians who could go there and argue on behalf of their state. And then the actual congresspeople, the idea was they represent their community. Congress people being the members of the House. Yes.
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Your representatives are supposed to represent your community, their constituents, whereas the senators are supposed to represent the state government. And the way that the senators are selected in a manner that maintains the people's authority over them is because the senators are chosen by the state government, which is elected by the people.
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So there's an extra step of separation there. Mm hmm. And the idea was it's like, all right, well, we trust these people from our community to make the best decisions on behalf of the community.
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And then those people who are already supposed to be considered something of an elite within the community, the most intelligent, the most successful, the ones who are most capable, they're then selecting the people who are going to fill that role for the state at the federal level. So, yeah, you want to get your working government back. Repeal the 17th Amendment.
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Nobody's benefiting from that except the political parties. Also change how you vote. Yeah, first pass the post is a stupid system.
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Wouldn't it be so nice if instead of picking between two options, you got to rank your choices?
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Wouldn't it be great if a corporation or a union didn't have the ability to just donate endless amounts of money to a campaign because of loopholes? Wouldn't that be great? Amazing. Change the law. Just change the law, guys. Not you. You guys can't change the law, but you can vote for people who will. Unfortunately, because of the law, they won't win. And that gets into spicy territory.
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A combination of all three. I think I did once say that Dutch sounds like somebody, a German trying to speak English while giving a Swedish guy a handjob.
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There's a certain Thomas Jefferson quote that's feeling more and more relevant. All I can say... I understand what the lesser Mario brother did.
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Yes, the the trees of liberty are not being watered. They're not. And there is a if somebody if somebody doesn't, you know, pay them some mind soon. I worry that they will be watered aggressively.
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We don't want that. No, we don't. This is not Timcast. We don't want the Civil War. We're good. Don't get in trouble with... I know, I'm going to be down there on Thursday.
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I tried so hard. I was like, hey, guys, they're there. My favorite part is the part of the show where, you know, there was kind of an argument going on over the draft. And there was some people were like, well, no, we're drafting men. We should draft women, too. And then some people were like, well, no, we should only draft men. And I was like, hot take. How about we don't draft anybody?
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Roman Helmet guy got mad at me for that one on Twitter recently. Did he really? Yeah. Not like mad mad, but like we were arguing about it. Yeah. Because he was like, well, World War II costs like 40% of our GDP. So how are you going to do that without a draft or taxes? Because I was like, well, you don't need a draft if you offer people a lot of money to go fight a war.
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He was like, well, how are you going to pay for that without taxes? Because, you know, taxation is theft. And I was like, I... I mean, we operated without income tax for a while. We could go to a VAT tax system, a less spicy tariff system. I mean, most countries funded their governments on tariffs for basically all of early modern history. You know what might be cool?
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Yeah. So like if you're trying to buy a Toyota, I would prefer to be taxed on the things I buy and not the money I make. If you're trying to buy a Toyota, tax isn't too bad. If you're trying to buy a Lamborghini, you're going to have to pay a lot of money. You don't really need to do that. You just establish one tax rate. And as the stuff gets more expensive, it gets higher.
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Yeah, but that's my point. Yeah. Also, why are we taxing cigarettes? That's just a tax on the poor.
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Like sin taxes are just a tax on the poor.
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That's not cool. I think it's, well, I should say they disproportionately affect the poor. Yeah. In theory, the idea is if I tax the hell out of cigarettes, people won't be able to afford them. The problem is that's not how addiction works. Sorry, this is not the politics lodge. Not that I think we're saying anything that most people don't agree with.
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Oh, it's so funny. They're giants. They're giants with crazy facial features.
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Yeah, no, I feel like... The taxationist theft one might be spicy.
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I didn't think I did that much recap.
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Yeah, that was more me just trying to remind people. Yeah, and I think there was... I think... Yeah, I'll recap, but... Also, I was trying... I don't know how much it came across. I was trying to write those...
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yeah it's very entertaining yeah but we got just how funny we thought it was you know now that we've rambled a bit as we do at the beginning of every show to get the the juices flowing the conversational juices yes i oh by the way aiden's coming with me for pop culture crisis this week oh yeah i'm finally going down uh should be fun if you uh if you watch pop culture crisis with brett and mary i've been on there a whole bunch of times probably their most recurring guest at this point uh who is not an employee of the overall company and i finally got thorn bussy to follow me
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I was trying to write those episodes in a very specific way, which was that they would feel like a coherent story from episode to episode instead of it being kind of like, all right, go back and watch this if you need this background information. I was trying to make it more of a story as opposed to, you know, each episode had a theme.
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I don't know if it came across again. I'm new to that kind of writing. Also, I want to turn it into a book when I'm done.
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I don't want to read a transcript. I want to see the document. Of? I'm trying to find it. Where do they misspell it? Towards the end, I believe it was. Like, in one of the articles? God, it is such a... I'm looking for it. Was it like one of the... Was it in one of the signature areas? I think so. Oh, yeah. Also, that looks more like an O than a P. Yeah. It looks like... Only Olvania.
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That's what happens when Josh Shapiro starts The OnlyFans.
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So you're telling me there's a bunch of rare minerals and metals in catalytic converters. Yes. All right, boys, if I you know what, YouTube, if the channel ever if you continue killing our channel, I'm going to steal all your catalytic converters. How's that sound?
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Exactly. Makes sense. Yep. Now, if only we could use them to create diamonds... I mean, we have lab-grown diamonds. I know, but it would be pretty sick if you could make diamonds in your catalytic converter.
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All I'm saying is that when I was in college, I knew a guy named Vince and Vince made a very smart decision, which was to set up an entire PC that did nothing but mine Bitcoin using the university's Wi-Fi and power. That was smart. It was. So somebody just needs to do that with catalytic converters. You know somebody who heats their house by doing that?
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Yeah. Thursday and Friday, 3 p.m. to 5 p.m. Eastern Time. Let's take over the chat, shall we? I would love to see more people lore in their lodge than culturing their crisis. Yes. Yes. But today, we're talking about something that we come back to every few months because this week I'm doing a Missing411 video. And we're coming back to the Pennsylvania cluster.
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I've said what I needed to say for legal reasons. Do a black rose for $2 saying, I do have an ax. It's right there.
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I am armed with a Sonny Chu medallion, an axe, and a terrible Bible translation. You know what would be a great thing we could do? I could...
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I gotta get sexy for the calendar.
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I forgot to eat for most of today, so we're on to a good start.
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Ooh, I have heard that term over and over again.
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also the molly dish one does look interesting yeah yeah i've got uh oh interesting fellow massachusetts resident holly puranen that sounds like it's probably finish uh was killed seven years earlier her body was also found in a wooded area in hampton county police considered the possibility two cases be related uh same person is considered to be a person of interest in both cases and it was discovered that molly dish had written a letter to holly's family following her disappearance
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That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, see, this is what I need. I need people to give me weird, unsolved stories that I can cover.
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That's been, like, to be perfectly honest, part of the reason I've been depressed lately has been, I'm like, I've taken all the whimsy out of the world.
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And the reason I didn't do the Pennsylvania cluster for a while was because every time I looked at it, it made me angry. Do you want to tell them why it made you angry? David Politis picked 39 cases. I would say 8 out of 10. do not fit the missing 411 profile as established. I mean, like, you look at the Great Smoky Mountains cluster, there's a lot of cases in there.
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The basic schizoposting, the pancake earth, and the... At this point, Tartaria. Come on, chemtrails, come on. I want the Vatican archives have the testicles of Judas. Give me something like that. The Pope is actually a demon. See, there's just a lot of Protestants who will agree with you on that. Yeah.
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Also, for those following my attempt to find an apostolic church to join, I'm looking into the Anglican Catholic Church.
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I'm currently torn between that and the Orthodoxy. It's going to depend on a conversation I have with the priest. Because there's certain things about the Orthodoxy that I'm like, I don't like that. Yeah, that's fair. Like, I just don't like it. Abstract egg for 362. Love the specificity. I just need to really quickly clear that up.
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When I say I don't like that, I mean I disagree with it at a theological level, and I think it's wrong.
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Not just like, I'm like, eh. I don't like the vibes. It's not like that. It's like I have a theological disagreement. Yes.
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Well, like, because on the, like... On the one hand, Watergate was kind of a silly goose move. He was going to win anyway. On the other hand, the EPA was a necessity and a great thing for humanity. Yes. I mean, it's not now because it's like, hey, how dare you have a duck pond on your territory without our permission? That's not great.
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Probably needs to be reorganized, have some of their power stripped away. But the fact that you can now see in inner cities is good. Yes. The fact that you can breathe, that's great. Yes. And, you know, on the one hand, like... The fact that you can now swim in your rivers again. If you've ever seen the quote about Bohemian Grove... Oh, yeah.
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Yeah, like it's the... I'm going to use the more socially correct and appropriate term of gay. He said, it's the gayest thing I've ever seen. On the one hand... Pretty offensive to the gay community. On the other hand, utterly hilarious thing to say about a gathering of Republican politicians that happens every year. Yes. Like really funny. Yes. So also tricky dick based nickname.
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Like, remember, I remember when Trump was running for the first time and some of them like MAGA influencers were going through like all of the other candidates. You know, there was a. What was it? Lion Ted. Lil Marco. He couldn't think of one for Rand Paul, so he just insulted his hair.
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But then his influencer people just started uploading pictures of Rand Paul with, instead of Rand Paul, it said Sneaky Pete. It's just like, bro, what? What do you mean? Oh, so I don't know why sneaky Pete was what they came up with, but that was funny. Yeah. Tricky dick goes hard. Yeah.
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Also the, him getting impeached and then getting onto air force one or whatever the last time and throwing the peace signs. So funny. Yeah. Like it's kind of like with Trump, how you're like, unfortunately this man says some hilarious shit. Yeah. You know, like when he was making fun of Michael Bloomberg, he's like, ah, give me all this age. Ah, like,
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unfortunately very funny yes uh like kind of like obama you know that thing where he ordered a drone strike on an american citizen who was a teenager just in yemen visiting family yeah uh that wasn't great but also the man had a layup oh my god yeah like you know and he was the smoothest talking president of all time now uh let me be clear uh i did drone strike that child but watch me hit this three-pointer no no no no
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best oh yeah was bush was oh what was the camera what he was saying but it was such a serious moment where he's talking about the war in the middle east it was like a war on now watch this and then just wallops a golf ball yeah oh my god yeah bill clinton you know basically sexually assaulting an 18 year old intern but he killed the saxophone killing it on the saxophone like
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And for the most part, it's like, ah, this is weird. And there's a full story of why it was so weird that this person wasn't found or why it took so long to find them. Pennsylvania, it's like, yeah, this two-year-old disappeared. That's it? Yeah. In almost every single case. Now, we went over the ones that are just straight up not weird back in, I think, January.
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That's, I think, my favorite thing about American presidents, to be honest, is basically every single one you're like, yeah, this was a pretty cool thing they did. And they probably shouldn't have done that. And then there's just something absolutely out of left field. Yep. Also, like, for example, Reagan, you know, a balloon popping in him just saying, miss me without missing a beat.
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Like Teddy Roosevelt getting shot and then continuing the speech. Did H.W. do anything noteworthy? Well, while Reagan was in surgery, he organized the Iran-Contra affair. Yeah, there's basically nothing good that can be said about H.W. Yeah, he's one of the few where you're like that guy was a bastard through and through.
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Yeah, I, you know, I mean, basically the one thing that people really come after Reagan for was actually H.W. Yeah, I watched a three hour video. I'm not saying everything Reagan was did was good at all by any stretch. I'm just saying like the thing people most often bring up.
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Yeah, Reagan was in surgery. They invoked the 25th because he was incapable of serving at the time, and then Bush was like, do it, do it, do it, go, go, go.
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yep which means they had been planning for it oh they did the the amount of the amount of people which makes you ask some questions about who shot reagan and why yeah the about they were probably just trying to pull a jfk part two oh yeah for sure yeah like hw was like oh johnson really had a great idea with that one yeah johnson's another one that goes on that list of mostly just a complete bastard yes but also the fact that he like allegedly on air force one while losing an argument just unzipped his pants and laid it on the table
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Yeah. Allegedly. He flexed his Johnson, so to speak. Allegedly.
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Yeah. There was also the one where he apparently allegedly said, I'll have those a derogatory term for African-Americans voting Democrat for the next 200 years. Wow. And allegedly. Yes. Yeah, like JFK should have lived like the world would be a better place if JFK had been allowed to keep piping Marilyn Monroe.
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And then you can look at Teddy and it's like the day I think it was his mom and his wife or his wife and his daughter or something. Like I can't remember. It was definitely his wife and some other family member died. And he was the diary entry is just the light has gone out of my life. Yep. And you're like, Can we just resurrect Teddy Roosevelt and make him God Emperor?
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And as I keep saying, I do not want to lead a cult. Ha!
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Also, one last comment on the political history thing. I'm not saying that it was the right thing to do. But MacArthur's idea would have worked.
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And that video did surprisingly well for what it was. I think it helped that we made the music faster every time we went between cases. But when I'm looking through the ones that I'm doing this week, which are the ones that, to be perfectly honest, to be frank, do not seem weird to me, but they do seem criminal. As I'm looking through them, I'm like, he had to stretch so much...
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Would it? He wanted to drop 54 nukes on the Chinese-Korean border. I'd be surprised if there was a border anymore. Yeah, but that's the thing. It was only the border. I think it would have made the point.
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You would think, but we see that was the thing is we were like, we will never use this again. It would have worked.
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We couldn't because the Soviets would have done it to us. Yeah. If we had nuked Beijing, the Soviets would have nuked. I don't know. Puerto Rico. They're not going to nuke the mainland if we nuke China.
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Also, one of my favorite other developments is that China was like poking their Navy around Australia for a little while. She'd be like, ha ha ha. You can't do anything about this. So we just sailed an entire destroyer fleet through the Taiwan Strait. Yep. Know your place, China.
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Like, I will criticize our government till the cows come home. But the second China is like, we have a new sixth generation fighter. I'm like, shut up.
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Which I got to say, personally, huge fan of seditious libel. I love seditious libel. Yes. Favorite activity when I'm drinking.
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I think seditious libel should be a competitive thing. I think it should be the benchmark of political discussion. Forget about, you know, like casual treason. I'm going ranked. Yeah.
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And a bunch of drunk people and a few pups.
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Also, like, super base thing, the Tun Tavern in Philadelphia was, like, central to the stories of the U.S. Army and Marines. Yep. And also the first place where Pennsylvania Freemasons met. That's fun. There's currently an effort to bring it back, being led by the Masons. Oh, that's great. Like, to recreate it, which I think would be super cool.
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to make these missing 411 cases. First of all, One of the cases is in eastern Ohio.
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You know, unleash your inner Andrew Jackson on the steps of Congress that one time.
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I would definitely do that. I'm just not sure if that would get the green light.
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Also, really quick, probably the best platform now that I think about it, if you see bonkers conspiracy content on TikTok, please tag me. It's at the Aiden Mattis. Tag me because from what I understand, TikTok now no longer gives you a watermark when you download your own video. So I can take TikTok stuff and I can post it elsewhere and I... You can't really do that with shorts and reels.
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It seems like we're going to do it soon. I was going to put it off a little bit longer and hope for things to get better here, but now I'm just trying to figure out when I'll have the time to sit down and really just knuckle down on it, because to be honest, getting the rest of it done... in one video is probably going to be a Donner Party level effort.
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And the Donner Party video was two and a half hours long. I think the average run time of the JonBenet videos was like 45 minutes. To an hour, yeah. Yeah, so... Well, I think one was like 30-some. One was an hour, so... It's going to be a lot. It's going to be a long recording session. And it's going to be a long-ass week. Yeah, for both.
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Yeah, and as we went through in the first video, I took the opportunity in the, you know, why do so many children go missing in Pennsylvania video, I took that opportunity to go back through the profile. And one reason I want to talk about this today is one of our shorts from forever ago has been getting a lot of comments. It's the Missing411 profile in 54 seconds or something like that.
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So, what I'm probably going to try and do is pick something that I can... We'll either do something like... I think we're saving this for when we actually go to do the Donner party trip, but something like, uh, stitching together or revisiting the Dyatlov pass one, similar to the way we did the CTK one. Um, but probably a little bit more intensive.
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I, and I'll probably do that and then give myself two weeks, uh, That should allow me to get through it. Yep. It's been trying to do it in a week. Yeah, it's a lot. And our weeks are getting busier and busier. Yeah, because now we have to run a business. Yeah. I don't like running a business. I understand why so many people step down as CEO as soon as they have the opportunity to do so.
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I've covered Yaoi's before on TikTok, I think. Yeah, I mean, I would love to go visit Australia. Same. I just hate flying. Same.
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You think I like open ocean better than flying over the open ocean? At least you can float instead of fall out of the sky. Ah, yes, so I can slowly bake and starve to death and then be eaten by sharks. Okay, I mean, I don't know. Look, I'll do it eventually. Fair enough.
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uh daniel franklin henry jr for 762 love the specificity says uh i saw a tall shadow figure saturday morning while working in a rail yard in oklahoma city not sure what to make of it interesting oh boy this is taking us back to like early lore lodge yeah uh so shadow people are an interesting concept yep scientifically the suggestion is that It's just your brain seeking a pattern.
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It's pareidolia, right? Is the term for that? You say paranoia? Pareidolia?
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Yeah. The scientific explanation for why people see shadow people is that your brain is trying to find patterns in the darkness, so it creates...
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humans the weird part is i that basically every single time i've heard people talk about shadow people they've described a tall guy in a trench coat with a stetson hat or a fedora or something like that yep i and then on top of that there's the problem of what if you see a shadow person in broad daylight i don't know what to make of that yep i i
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As you guys probably know, I do not believe, skeptical as I may be about a lot of things, I do believe that supernatural stuff exists. I don't know, shadow, the only times I can think about, I can recall seeing shadow people had to do with a specific note I found. when I was a little kid that I can't even remember what it said anymore. Like, that's how long ago this was.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
It's been getting a lot of comments where people are like, oh, you left so much out. Oh, why are you taking somebody else's work and presenting it as your own? Even as I'm saying, this is the missing 411 profile as created by David Politis. That video comes from a time in our career when I agreed with the man. And people are complaining about it.
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What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
There was no, like, traumatic event leading up to it or immediately afterwards. It was just kind of a weird, like, I started seeing a shadowy figure basically as far away as I could see in broad daylight for a couple of years and then it stopped.
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What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
I don't like sleep paralysis either.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Oh yeah, there was in mine. Like I saw, I've never had sleep paralysis, but yeah, with the shadow person thing, there wasn't like a person involved that caused me to see it.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
I've heard some people say they've seen shadow people while having sleep paralysis, but the most common one you have is the hag, like the somebody sitting on your chest.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Yeah. Some people have reported that they feel like something's actively like sitting on their chest, strangling them.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
I'm glad he does. If you haven't tried Mount Pocono perk, we have not raised the price in four years. Yeah. Even though there's been a lot of inflation, it's delicious coffee. It's really good. We drink it every day. Honestly, just got a new box. Yeah, honestly, the biggest thing for me is, like, I... I get free coffee because we have this coffee.
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What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
So we haven't raised the price partially for that reason. We're probably going to have to at some point. Because Nat's going to need to take a profit. But, no, if you haven't tried it yet, we're also looking at getting a blend for the History on Hinge show. That'll be, like, specifically for espresso.
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What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Um... Yeah. So if you haven't tried it, it's a tableau roasting co.com link should be in the description. Ours is Mount Pocono perk. Steven Bell from screen history of everything. His is Lewis and dark. And there's also a collaboration bundle of a history and mystery bundle where you can get one of each and it'll come with mugs.
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What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
So, you know, when you look at the profile points and you break them down... At first, I was like, oh, there's really, like, yeah, I guess you can say that most of the cases had at least a few of these. And then I started thinking about it more and more, and the profile points only actually make sense when you realize that he's trying to lead you to a certain conclusion.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Oh, that would be awesome. Yeah, that'd be amazing. Please do. And yeah, I hadn't heard of the Whitetail Bigfoot Festival, but if it's New York, that might be doable for us.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
We want to go down for the Mothman Festival this year in West Virginia. That's in October? I think so. September or October. It's Point Pleasant.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Uh, send an email to Thornberry at redacted media, PA.com because he will see it.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
And they didn't teach him anything about the U.S. government while he was there.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
It was a very funny conversation right before the show.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Adding it to the Google. Cool. Kyron?
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Yep. Gonna be honest, I did not expect him to be a white guy.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
They are spread out across approximately... 60 years. So highly unlikely. And miles and miles apart, like dozens of miles apart at the very closest. So no, fortunately no.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
I really do think it, for the most part, when it was one of these disappearances, I think the most likely outcome is that they were adopted out in undocumented adoptions.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Uh, well, young earth creationism in general is the idea that the earth, uh, is only 6,000 years old. So let's take Genesis literally. Not even taking Genesis literally, it's just kind of inserting the belief in the young earth into Genesis. Granted, it does come out of Judaism. But when you read the Bible, you don't have to interpret it that way.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Like there are other ways that Genesis can be interpreted that don't require the earth being 6,000 years old. Um, and basically the idea is that I, there's two camps on this. Either dinosaurs didn't exist at all. And all of those bones were put in the ground by Satan to confuse us or, uh, humans and dinosaurs coexisted.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
And this is what's frustrated me for two years now with David Politis, is whenever I say David Politis is telling you Bigfoot is responsible for missing 411, people go, well, he's never said that. Meanwhile, on the North America Bigfoot search website, his company, his organization, the missing 401 books are listed, and they're kind of presented as evidence.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
So I, most Christians are not young earth creationists anymore. Um, essentially no educated Christians are young earth creationists. Young earth creationism, so far as I understand it, essentially doesn't exist in the Catholic, Orthodox, or high church Protestant sects. It's basically, at this point, from what I understand, exclusive to the low churches. Got it. And even then, it's not ubiquitous.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
I know, probably. Listen, it's all joke, Big Chief.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
He does have a good sense of humor. Making Nebuchadnezzar think he's a cow for a couple of years is funny as hell.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Well, I mean, you're not wrong. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Bobby Dunbar. Going on the list. I think you mentioned that the other night.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
I don't think you're necessarily wrong. The man never presented himself as being any kind of scientific authority. No. He was a guy who survives in the woods.
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What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Ash was great. Yeah, Ash was a lot of fun. Joe.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Yeah. Even backup Ruby was good. Yeah, she was good. Not as good. I think Meg was probably one of the best acted characters on the show. Meg was phenomenal. Especially, like, the mid-seasons Meg. Yeah. Yeah, she was great. So, I mean, yeah, I'd... Ooh, wait. Also, wasn't there a period where... I think where John came back as a demon. He didn't come back as a demon. He did.
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What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Yeah. For like two episodes in season two or something. Season three.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
And then you kind of look through these cases, and it's more obvious with the Smokies, for example, where, to be perfectly honest, we went down there, we did a whole video, and for the most part, they didn't seem all that weird, but we could not wrap our heads around Dennis Martin.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
He comes back later for a hot minute. Hendrickson loved him. Oh yeah. Hendrickson was awesome.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
That whole arc... Especially because, yeah, he's an antagonist, but he's also a good guy. Yes, exactly. Hendrickson was an awesome character.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
gave us one of the absolute hardest outros to any episode ever oh yeah with the uh the shapeshifter yeah when they were you know they're walking out it's just the two SWAT SWAT officers and they're just you know you got renegade playing and then finally as they take off the masks you get to the like oh great series the first five seasons of that show were peak television just him being there just like
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Oh, my God, you're right. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, man. It's hard to pick one. Also, Benny was great. Yeah. I think for me, it's a toss-up between Bobby and Rufus.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Yeah, that was a good one. That was great. I think the, uh, the Croatoan episode in season five, that was fun. That was a really good one. I loved post-apocalyptic supernatural. Yep. Like that was great. The fact that Cass is like a guru. Yeah. Yeah. You're like, what happened here? That was by far one of my favorite episodes of the show.
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What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Charlie was awesome. I really loved the Scooby-Doo episode because it was just silly. The one where it was the play. Yes. Like the Supernatural musical. That was like totally fourth wall breaking the whole way through. Also Mystery Spot, wonderful. Oh, God. Heat of the moment. Heat of the moment.
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What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Yeah, I think French Mistake was the one with all of the... They get teleported into the real world. Yeah, exactly. But I will say, least favorite character is so easy, their mom. Yeah. Granted, early seasons, their mom, where she just shows up in flashbacks and stuff, she's great. Season 12, I wanted the entire time, it was like, just kill her. Just kill her already.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Yeah. They lost the plot eventually. It got to a point where they were writing based on Tumblr fanfics. Some of it was funny, some of it was dumb. Once Kripke got back involved, it helped.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Like Sam, I would have believed was a Swifty Dean. I, if you had Dean being like secretly a huge fan of NWA, uh, That I could buy. I could buy him having a Compton rap song.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Exactly. Taylor Swift, no. No. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. As for least favorite episode, I mean, the one where they... The show's been out for years. Spoiler alert, I'm going to give you 10 seconds. The one where they kill God. Yeah. It just wasn't good. Yeah. It was like it wasn't even jumping the shark bad. It was just poorly written. Yeah. Like God felt like a cartoonish supervillain. Yeah.
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And you know, from the early seasons, they had the capability to do really cool stuff. And instead they're like, you know, he's a Marvel character.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Stupid. Also God's sister. Season seven gets too much hate. Oh, season seven gets way too much heat.
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What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
One of the best seasons of the show after the, after season five. Yep. Like I consider there to be two separate supernaturals. One is seasons one through five. And then you have season six through 15. Honestly, I consider it three. Yeah, because it does get progressively worse after season 10.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Also, the first episode of season 10, I almost stopped watching the show.
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What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Everything about it from the change in the color scheme, like the way they did the color correction, the writing, the acting. It became a soap opera, yeah. Ugh. The Nephilim kid, I hated him. Yeah. He was a bad actor. Like, not only was the writing bad... It wasn't even a situation where like the acting kind of redeemed it like with Jared and Jensen and Misha. Their acting redeemed the bad script.
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What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
As a character. Phenomenal. Specifically when Mark was playing. Yeah, Mark Pellegrino. Yeah. Oh, my God. Also based as hell, dude.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Mark was a very believable Lucifer.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
The Rockstar guy killed it. So good. Yeah, but...
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Also, separation of church and state isn't in the Constitution as a term.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah. It's basically... It was written... The idea was like... If you guys elect a Christian, they're probably going to act like a Christian. Yeah. They just aren't allowed to make laws based on Christianity. Yes. And people keep forgetting that. It's like if you. Like, yeah, they can't cite the Bible to make a law. They can't establish Christianity as the official religion. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
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But if you elect an evangelical, they're probably going to oppose abortion. Just just you're supposed to have some discernment.
The Lore Lads
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You just also can't legislate it. Yes. Everyone's legislating morality. It's just different moralities.
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I know that if I vote for a Catholic, I'm probably going to get Catholicism.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
No, not for me. I probably should get the video done. Also, just to clarify, I'm surprised Trump can enter a church, too.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
If I'm being realistic, the only president that I can look back on who I think could have crossed the threshold of a church is Nixon.
The Lore Lads
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wild yeah and Teddy and well that's the last person I mean the most recent yeah would be Nixon Nixon was just kind of wild yeah if you look back on him what a guy not Reagan I will never forgive Reagan for the NFA what about Carter did he do anything no that's the thing Yeah, he probably could have crossed the threshold of the church, too.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Yeah, and it gets even weirder when you look at the FBI's behavior because the FBI was being weird. Objectively, the FBI was being weird in that case.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Which is how I prefer my presidents, realistically. Coolidge, hell of a guy. Didn't do anything. Yeah. Awesome. Hoover also didn't do anything, but probably should have. Yeah. That was an error. That was a misstep. Also, veto power is not definitive. No, Congress can always just rewrite the law and pass it again. Yeah. Or they can just pass it.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Oh, yeah. Our government totally operates on the ignorance of the American citizen.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Also, like, read it with the understanding that most of the amendments are not changes, but rather clarifications.
The Lore Lads
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Like, the document itself, as written, protects almost every single right that is enumerated by the amendments.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Yeah. Well, Prohibition was also one.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah. One was repealing Prohibition, one was the 17th. Yep. But like, the Constitution as it's written does not preclude black people or women from voting. No. It... That's not in there. But it does clarify... Yeah, the amendment clarifies... Yeah, you can... Like, for example, I think it was Hamilton thought the Second Amendment was totally unnecessary. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
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Because he was like, well, there's nothing in the document giving the government the power to regulate firearms. Yeah. Why do we need this?
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And then a few years later, they were like, oh, we need this. Yeah. We kind of need this one.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Yeah, that's it. Yeah, where, I mean, the description Harold Key gave to the media is objectively not the place that he showed the park rangers. It's just not. I mean, the location he described, he said, was at least five, probably 10 miles away from the parking lot and to the east. He leads park rangers two miles to the west. We've been there. We've been there twice now. We've hiked those trails.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Yeah. In U.S. law, the militia is every man between the ages of 17 and 45.
The Lore Lads
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Yeah, they have the Congress has the power to raise armies and command militias.
The Lore Lads
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Command militias. Yes. Militias are not a congressional issue, which is why to this day, the National Guard, there's two kinds of militias in U.S. law. One is the National Guard. That's the organized militia. And that is all men and women enlisted or officers in the National Guard. The other is all American men between the ages of 18 and 45. Where is that codified? That is.
The Lore Lads
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Oh, God, I can't remember the exact one. Because that's not in the Constitution. It's U.S. code, though. It is U.S. law.
The Lore Lads
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Yes, it's a... 10th U.S. Code Chapter 12, and it is Section 246, Militia, Composition, and Classes.
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A, the Militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and except as provided in Section 313 of Title 32, under 45 years of age, who are or who have made a declaration of intention to become citizens of the United States and of females of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
and the class of the militia are the organized militia, which is the National Guard and Naval Militia, and the unorganized militia, which consists of all members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia. So you're militia, I'm militia, probably about 70% of you watching are militia. Yeah, U.S. law is crazy, man.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
If you go back, you look up everything that went into the Ten Amendments, the original Bill of Rights. Like, for example, the Quartering Act, the amendment for quartering.
The Lore Lads
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I... the funny thing about it is that quartering wasn't that big of an issue, but they made it a very significant part of the constitution. Yeah. Uh, fourth amendment, um, as I believe I'm warranted search and seizure. Yep.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Oh yeah. And then 10 is basically, Hey, just cause we like, if we didn't give the power to the government, that was on purpose.
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Everything else goes to the people.
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Like, yeah. Either the states or the people. Yeah. Yeah. Constitution is a super cool document. It is. Having it is the oldest functioning governmental framework in the world.
The Lore Lads
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And if the Brits tell you the Magna Carta is older, it's not the same kind of document. It's a charter. It's not a constitution.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
There were just a few too many holes. Yeah, like currency. Yeah, we should. I like the idea we had earlier having somebody else run a show where it's just like auditing the monthly Treasury report. Yeah, because that could also be something where you could have a couple of videos on like the Constitution, the Declaration, everything.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Thank you for stopping by the Lore Lodge, everybody. We will see you... Can we get both $50 ones? I saw two, and one came in before 8.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
If it came in before 8, I would have gotten to it. I thought it was. Take a look over there. But if it was a $50, I feel like we should acknowledge that even if it came in after 8. Yep. Use the stream activity thing. Oh, right, right, right. You silly. You silly goof.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Yeah, so the only issue is that it's kind of hard to go find the Super Chats. Yeah. YouTube does not make that easy. There might be somewhere. I think there is somewhere I can go find them in the dashboard. But, yeah, I could probably do that as I... as a live stream over on the Aiden Mattis channel, at least. Yeah, I just got to get back.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
We've been up those mountains. Whatever the official story is with Dennis Martin, it's wrong. I mean, it's just straight up wrong. There's no other way to put it. Even Nick from Missing Enigma has kind of... Who usually is even more skeptical than we are. Even when we had him on, he couldn't really come to an explanation of it either. So that one was genuinely weird.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
The issue is I've just been so busy, but hopefully eventually we'll be able to hire people.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
And then if we can hire people, there's stuff to be taken off both of our plates and we can get back to making content. All right, well, thank you for stopping by the Lore Lodge, everybody.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
And Monday for the next show. Yeah. I would be streaming, but we will be on our way back from West Virginia.
The Lore Lads
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But that's not what you get with the Pennsylvania cluster. For example, one of them... And I don't... It's hard for me to say if this is him being deliberately misleading or if this is him...
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What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
just not doing his due diligence because, you know, if you look through, for example, some of the cases and I'll get to the point about the profile in a minute, but some of the cases like I got to get one of the kids last names was Menarson. It was one of the later ones. And I can't remember off the top of my head. One of the kids names, I think Gabriel Menarson.
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What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
David's like, you know, the last thing anybody saw was them going across the street to this one house and then they disappeared and nobody knew anything. Meanwhile, you actually look at the reporting from the time the police are like, yeah, a woman down the street saw them playing out on the frozen river.
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Our divers and dogs and everyone like our dogs led us out onto the river to a spot where there was a hole in the ice. And then the dog stopped and we sent divers down there. But after a while, it just became too dangerous. And, you know, we can't say for sure that they fell into the water, but. All of the evidence suggests they fell into the water.
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And where this connects to the profile is I can't, again, off the top of my head, can't remember the exact location where this happened. I think it was out in, like, the Alleghenies. This was in a town. This was closer to being a smiley face killer's case than a missing 411 case.
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What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Because one of the key things with Missing 411 that comes up over and over and over again, and I think part of the issue here is that this book came out in 2011, and Missing 411 didn't really find its footing until, I think, 2017. Was that recently? Yeah. I think The Hunted came out in 2019. I think Missing 411, the movie, the first one, came out in 2017, if I'm not mistaken.
The Lore Lads
What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
So there's like five years, five or six years between the books coming out and the movies coming out.
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And in that time, there's a lot more focus on the national parks and the government protected wilderness areas, the state protected wilderness areas. And I think it's because David realized, you know, these ones are the ones that are. Again, I don't know what his what what his intentions are. I can only assume that he had one of two thoughts.
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What Happened To Missing 411? | Podcast Episode 163
Either, man, these urban ones are a little too well documented. People are going to be able to poke holes. That's the non-charitable option. Or potentially, if you want to give them a more charitable option, he realized that, oh yeah, maybe these urban ones aren't connected. Maybe these aren't weird. So I'll focus on the ones that happen in wilderness.
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I don't know which of the two it is, but if you look at the profile, as it is in Eastern United States, and this is why it's so weird, all of the Great Smokies cases are in a national park, or near it. And they're all in the wilderness. You look at the Pennsylvania cluster...
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Very few of them are on public land at all, and several of them aren't in the wilderness at all either, like the Menarson one. And then the one that I'm one of the ones I'm most intrigued about that I'll be doing this week is Elsie Frothmeyer. Fox Chase, Pennsylvania, that is Philadelphia. Now, granted, it was, I think, 1934, so it wasn't as built up at the time. It was, you know, a little bit.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
How selfish do you have to be to not offer your cleaning lady a bonus at Christmas? That is... I mean, you guys just got a $118,000 bonus. You couldn't part with $2,000 of it as a Christmas bonus for your cleaning lady? Who, by the way, spent six months of her employment washing your daughter's soiled sheets every morning? You can't give her a $2,000 bonus? That's hazmat at that point.
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The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
There were multiple points where Hoffman Pugh mentioned that she had found feces. And from the later investigation, it doesn't seem like that was JonBenet. So that is actually hazmat at that point. That is if you are a housekeeper and there is that kind of thing, your employer cannot tell you you have to do that.
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And if she fires you because of it, depending on the state you work in and what your agreement is, you might actually be able to sue. Probably not in this case. but she's doing work here that deserved to be overpaid, you know? And again, it's Christmas. You talk this big game, you know, oh, we're a loving Christian family, you know, we don't understand why this happened to us.
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Well, maybe it's because you're a loving Christian family who has been immaculately blessed by God to be worth $7 million, and you couldn't part with two grand to give your housekeeper at Christmas for necessary... It was for rent, Aiden. Rent. Was there medical expenses in there as well? There was a little bit of medical expense. It was like dentist visit or something like that.
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The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
But it was primarily like rent, truck repairs, dental bills. You're not good Christians. It doesn't matter how many times you say, oh, we're good Christian folk. No, you're not. You're the worst. And personally, I gotta be honest, part of this whole thing for me is I'm offended. As a Christian, I'm offended by their behavior and their audacity to call themselves Christians. I mean, just...
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The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
If somebody came to me right now and said, hey, you know, somebody I care about. Actually, we have an example of this. I was going to say we already did that. A couple of months ago, somebody came to us that we care about very much. A good friend of ours who was down on some luck needed to pay her rent. And we were like, you know what?
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The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
Here, you know, we're not just going to give it out, but you have a skill. We're going to pay you for that skill so that we can make sure you get this money. And they couldn't even do that. It was gonna be, yeah, we'll give you the loan, but we're gonna take it all back. I was offered to be paid back. I said, no. I said, do the work for us. That's paid back. That's how I consider it.
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She could have asked Hoffman Pugh, you know, hey, could you do a couple extra shifts? Do you know how to do any landscaping? Like, is there anything, could you pick weeds when the summer rolls around? You know, there were a bunch of other options, but no. Spare me the good Christian bullshit on this one, because you aren't. You know? I mean, I'm... I have... I'm angry. I'm angry.
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Anyway, also just a weird thing to write in the book, like you're already casting suspicion on this person, who, by the way, after Patsy had named Linda Hoffman Pugh as a suspect, the morning it happened, after Hoffman Pugh had been interviewed by police, and they kind of came to the conclusion that
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She basically deliberately ratted out her parents with Sebastian Rogers. As you look more and more well, Nina, Nina comes forward and she's got a whole bunch of stories. And then you look through Chris and Katie's statements and none of them line up there. I shouldn't say none, but they don't make a ton of sense.
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It's probably not her because she's rather rotund and not in shape enough and broke down immediately. You know, did not just gave no signs of guilt, was fully cooperative, handed over everything, even though at multiple junctures, it made them look guilty. You know, as I said in the video on Friday, they were asked, you know, do you have any rolls of black duct tape?
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Yeah, three, only one's unused. Do you have any nylon cord? Yeah, we've got two. Do you have, you know, a paintbrush? Yes, and in fact, there's a cord wrapped around it. Like, everything possible made it look like it was them. You'd have to be, this is the point at which you go, all right, crime is very sophisticated. If it's an intruder, this is a sophisticated crime.
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These are not sophisticated people. They didn't do this, you know? I had the question, well, maybe Merv sold somebody the information because they were denied the loan or something. Maybe it was a revenge thing. He said, well, I need the money anyway, so here, just so you know, if you go in this window, you can sneak into this house, and that would explain the $118,000, right?
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Linda might have seen that number. She might have heard it discussed. But I...
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You know? Like, even Merv was like, yeah, nobody's making their way around that thing. As did Linda and Nedra and John Andrew and Melinda. Everybody. You know? So... Like, I could see there being a Merv-Pugh angle... I'm going to need more evidence. I don't think that... I don't think he's running in those circles. They just don't fit the profile. They don't at all.
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And I mean, who's he going to sell that information to? And who's going to trust him? This guy was drunk when the cops showed up at 2 in the afternoon. He's got no teeth. If I'm a sophisticated criminal, if I'm a white collar criminal or a really good cat burglar, somebody approached me and they're like, hey, I got the skinny on a good mark. I'm not going to take that person seriously.
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I'm simply not going to. Also, they very obviously didn't know any details. When you look at the interview results, they didn't know any of the details of the case. They weren't even aware she was dead. Like, they got there and they were like, what do you mean she's missing? Like, oh my God, I was worried this was going to happen.
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But police eventually, and this isn't just, you know, this is me going off my opinion of like the first 48 hours, the police fully cleared them. Fully cleared them. And then Pew sued. And I believe she did settle. So good for them at least. You know, they deserve that. You know, wouldn't give them a $2,000 loan. They probably took them for a ride. Anyway, moving back.
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So here's the interesting part. She also gives us, Patsy gives us how much of the note she read, right? From Mr. Ramsey to, you must follow our instructions to the letter. That is before any of the stuff about, you know, if you talk to so much of a stray dog, she dies. You talk to police, she dies, blah, blah, blah, blah. She stopped reading there. I quickly scan the page.
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And then as I'm going through this, I'm sitting there and I'm thinking, man, it's really weird that the morning of the disappearance, the story, there were these several contradictory stories. First, Patsy saw the note, and then she ran up to get, or sorry, first Patsy saw JonBenet wasn't there, then saw the note, then ran up to get Jon.
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See, I've been saying to you since it started seeming like it was more likely that it was John and Patsy Ramsey, in my opinion, since it seemed like that was more likely, I kept saying to you, I think that the truth is going to come out in their words. It's not going to be from the evidence, because just like we saw with Sebastian Rodgers, Pretty easy to distract the police.
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$118,000, the writer demands. I gasp for air, blah, blah, blah. Why? And here's where I get really curious because she says she rushes up stores, checks in JonBenet's bedroom. The bed is empty. Now, Linda Hoffman Pugh and Suzanne Savage said that JonBenet typically slept with the door open. Just a thought. We'll come back to that one. But here's where we go. So she's on the second floor, right?
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Can you pull up the floor plan again? Yep.
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And where is Burke's bedroom?
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Right, so they're basically opposite sides, but are there not a series of corridors connecting those two rooms? In fact, really, two corridors? One turn. If you're standing outside of JonBenet's bedroom, there's one turn. Correct?
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The point is, there's not a series of walls that are going to deflect sound all that much. You're going to get a couple of bounces. Somebody screaming from JonBenet's bedroom should be audible in Burke's bedroom, right? At the very least, if Jon upstairs can hear Patsy screaming, Burke should be able to hear Patsy screaming, right? Almost certainly, yeah. right? Yep.
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So she screams, John, John, help. JonBenet's gone. He needs me wearing only his underwear. That's going to be important in a moment. Burke, John yells. What about Burke? Both of us race to Burke's room at the far end of the second floor. Not that far. And find him apparently still asleep. John heard her from upstairs with the water running. As we find out, Burke was awake.
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They didn't check very hard. You know, best not to arouse him until we figure out what's happening here. By the way, it's rouse, not arouse. Freudian slip? I don't know. Under the circumstances, who can really tell? Anyway, she goes through and John, as it seems, was the first one to read the ransom note in its entirety.
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The ransom note which says, "...any deviation of my instructions will result in the immediate execution of your daughter." Now, keep in mind, speaking to anyone about your situation, such as police, FBI, etc., will result in your daughter being beheaded. If we catch you talking to a stray dog, she dies. If you alert bank authorities, she dies.
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If the money is in any way marked or tampered with, she dies. Now, Aiden, was that not from, I think, Dirty Harry? Yeah, I think one part of it was from Dirty Harry. Something was from Ransom, something was from Dirty Harry. That specific part was from one of the movies. That was ripped straight from a movie, and they had a poster for that movie in their home.
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Then, when she talked to Arndt, it was, she went downstairs, saw the note, went to look on, look in on JonBenet, and then she, you know, screamed for her husband. So that was one contradiction within a few hours. Maybe, you know, look at that one. All right, sure. Maybe it's just that it was the morning of something horrible that had happened and she was genuinely just kind of frazzled.
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All right, so anyway, just to be clear, John has read all of this, where it says, if you talk to anybody at all, your daughter dies. It also says, you can try to deceive us, but be warned that we are familiar with law enforcement countermeasures and tactics. So if you really believe your daughter has been kidnapped, what do you do in this situation? Do you immediately call the police?
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Or do you follow the instructions?
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If you do anything but go to the bank and take this money out, she dies. So what do they do? They call the cops... Ready for this? He finishes reading. She asks, what do we do? I stammer. He shouts, call the police. Are you sure? Yes, call them. So John, who has just finished reading a ransom note that says, if you call the police, we kill your daughter. His first thought is call the police.
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Now, Aiden, in the note, do you recall how it said the money should be gathered?
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Oh, of course, yes, because, you know, small foreign factions use the term attache. Now, I understand that in the 70s and 80s, this was the vernacular for spy movies. What spies are involved in this? This is a terrorist organization, if anything. I mean, and also from where that they're going to use attache.
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They're that familiar with American media and British media that they're going to use attache in this circumstance. Maybe. I don't buy it. It looks to me like this was written by somebody who is well-educated, especially because at the very beginning of the note, two words are spelled incorrectly. And then for the rest of the note, everything is spelled correctly. Even more difficult words.
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Like business. She spells with two S's. B-U-S-S. I believe possess was the same way or something like that. Yeah, possession. also really interesting in the, uh, the printed version, she gives the correct spelling in the written version. It was an incorrect spelling. I think that was deliberate.
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Uh, and I think that spelling it incorrectly in the first one is deliberate too, because the only two misspellings are in the first paragraph. Everything else is spelled. So, and let me ask you this question. Um, how do you spell the word possession?
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So two S's in both cases, right?
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Yeah, two S's in both cases. Business, she added a second S. Okay. So that's fairly easy. These are like fifth grade spelling bee terms, right? We got to think about it a little bit because it's been a while.
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And we don't think about these things. I spelled balloon wrong in a spelling bee once. Um, I'm very literate and I spelled balloon wrong. So anyway, uh, yeah, uh, this, they're then told, you know, uh, you will withdraw $118,000 from your account. That's not a normal number to ask for in a ransom. That's the kind of number you ask for.
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If you know, John just got a 118,117, 118,117 dollar and 50 cent bonus. Um, you're going to take also why these denominations don't make sense. Why would the first hundred K be in a hundred dollar bills and the next 18 K being $20 bills? Wouldn't you want the largest denomination possible so that you don't have to take up so much space?
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You're going to launder $100,000 in $100 bills and then the rest in $20 bills? What are you doing here? Make sure you bring an adequate size attache to the bank. Aiden, spell the word adequate for me.
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But then there's other changes. So when John first tells police what happened the night before, he says that he brought both children inside. They were both awake. He read to them. He tucked them into bed. And then he and Patsy went to bed. Later on, the story changes and it's Patsy who tucked JonBenet into bed.
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Yeah. Do you think that or possession are harder words to spell if you're not a native English speaker?
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I would think adequate because the Q is really confusing in English. Yeah, yeah. One of the most confusing things for non-English speakers is Q and X in our language. So, we also have... What do we have in here? Countermeasures is spelled correctly. Underestimate is spelled correctly. Exhausting is spelled correctly. Immediate is spelled correctly. Particularly is spelled correctly.
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And they got business wrong. They're familiar with his business, but they don't know how to spell the word business. They have his daughter in their possession, but they're not sure how that word is spelled.
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I believe those are the only two misspelled words, and they're the ones with double S's. But they're different double S's. That's my favorite part. Business and possession are different double S sounds. Because possession does have a double S, I think. I don't know. On here it does. I can't tell what's spelled right. Anyway, moving along, because at this point we're nitpicking, right?
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This is nitpicking. I'm nitpicking right now. You know what's not nitpicking? Got to have someone here, I think. I dial the Fernies number. We need help, I scream. Please come over here. I take a deep breath and grab the phone again from its cradle, dialing the whites this time. Now, remember, if you talk to even a stray dog... We're now at police and two family friends.
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What also makes zero sense is the fact that they told him to go to the bank in person and withdraw the money. And he called his banker over the phone. That wasn't the instruction. But I'll tell you what, that makes... You couldn't even do that one right?
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But anyway, yeah, you know, so I grab the phone again from its cradle, dialing the whites this time. Jean Benet is missing, I yell into the phone. Please get over here. We need you. I hang up immediately and slump against the wall. Now, Aiden, do you recall from Friday's video what Fleet White said he was told?
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I'm over. That was it. Yeah. He wasn't told anything about what was going on. I don't think the Fernies were either. From what I read today from their interviews. That's a lie right there. And this wasn't written in the immediate aftermath. This wasn't written on December 27th. This was published in 2000. Three full years later. There was time to correct that.
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I think it's very possible both of them tucked JonBenet into bed that night for different reasons. Because she did have a bedwetting problem. Now, what causes bedwetting problems? A number of things, but abuse is among them. But so as I'm, you know, thinking about that, I'm sitting there and I'm like, you know what? I have been pretty one-sided.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I had different plans for tonight's show, but then I was reading John and Patsy Ramsey's The Death of Innocence for our JonBenet Ramsey series, and I realized that this book is chock full of lies. Are you shocked? I'm not shocked at all.
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There was time to make sure you had your information all in place. But what she's trying to do here is not, in my opinion, tell the true story. She's trying to construct a narrative that lines up. Problem is, she had the narrative line up with their stories and did not think about how she could make the narrative work for everybody else's stories.
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Probably because she may not have known all of the details of everyone else's stories. A lot was handed over to the DA, who then handed it over to the Ramsey attorneys, which again, that's not a failure of the police. That's a failure of the DA. That is beyond the pale. You never do that. They weren't officially suspects yet. They had a defense team. They had PIs.
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The cops don't have to share anything with the PIs. Especially when the PIs are actually going to witnesses before the cops even get there and interviewing them first. So why do the PIs need the cops interviews with the same people they'd already interviewed?
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That kind of stuff comes out during discovery. That's the stuff that comes up when you go to court. They basically gave the Ramsey attorneys the kind of access you have after you've been charged.
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Nope, nothing. So let's go down a little bit further. After a while, I see the headlights of a squad car, which slowly comes to a stop across the street in front of our house. Aiden, how long was it between her calling the cops and the cops showing up? Wasn't it like four or five minutes? Four minutes. Then we switch to John's narration.
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For the first time, I am aware that I've been racing around the house in my underwear. I hurry back to the third floor bedroom to grab my clothes. I stop in JonBenet's room and look under the bed to make sure she isn't there. What? Huh? Anyway, what we get from there is... I can get JonBenet back, I think, resolutely. I've got to get my wits about me.
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Well, you already broke all the rules the ransomers gave you. So what do we get here? And he makes it about Beth, too. I put on pants and a shirt and hurry back downstairs. I meet Patsy and Officer Rick French in the hallway near the front door. According to Rick French, when he got there, John Ramsey was downstairs in the kitchen, already dressed. Not coming down the stairs...
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I haven't been using the Ramsey's book because I don't typically take the word of the suspects at face value when I'm researching these things. But I was like, you know what? Just to be fair, let's see what they say. And it did not take long, Aiden. It did not take long. I only did one chapter so far. And this was literally in the last 10 minutes. You've watched me do this.
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He was already down there when Patsy opened the door. These are little lies, but it's the little lies that keep piling up that make you go, these aren't misrememberances. These are deliberate mistruths, in my opinion, allegedly, perchance. You can't just put in perchance. So we can keep going, though. Here we go. I remember Burke asleep in his room. This is a little bit later.
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This is after everybody's gotten there, you know. Okay. I remember Burke asleep in his bedroom. This should be around 8, right? Sometime around 8. Before 8, at the very least, because Linda Arndt got there at 8.10 and Burke was not there. I don't want to go get him up in the midst of this madness and wonder what is going on.
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I don't want him to get up in the midst of this madness and wonder what is going on. You could have woken up at any point in the morning. It's been a while now. I asked Fleet White if Burke can go to his house and be with Fleet Jr. He agrees. According to Fleet White, it was his idea that Burke go over. And then the Fernies were like, you know what, that's a really good idea.
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We'll send our kids over too. So John Ramsey is now saying things were his idea. Again, remember, this was written three years later. Fleet White said this on December 27, 1996. Leet White is first in best rest on this claim. Now, John probably could have cleared this up very easily if he had submitted to a police interview before April of 1997.
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Well, it's because when they did talk to the police, they didn't tell them anything about the night in question. They were like, oh, well, Patsy had cancer. It was hard. JonBenet is a pageant star. No, no, I can't talk about that right now. Look, Patsy was in no condition to be interviewed. If I had just lost my child, I would probably want to do nothing but talk to the police.
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And give them as much information as possible to hopefully find my daughter. Yeah. Also, I mean, you're telling me that on December 27th, December 28th, you know, basically the entire first five days, Patsy is in no condition to talk to police. Who, by the way, traveled to Atlanta... tell the Ramseys they're traveling to Atlanta so that they can interview the Ramseys, right? The Ramseys know this.
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So for five days, 26th through the 31st, Patsy's in no condition to talk to police. And then on January 1st, she gives an interview on CNN. in front of cameras, in front of the whole world, she is now comfortable to give an interview on CNN.
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Well, clearly, you know, the police are like, oh, well, I mean, if she goes on CNN and she gives this interview and she says, you know, we want to help, we want to talk to the police. Steve Thomas even wrote in the book, he's like, you know, I was like, maybe we were wrong.
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You know, maybe we had the wrong idea about the Ramseys, that their behavior wasn't suspicious, that they were just grieving parents and everybody reacts differently to grief. So they tell the Ramseys they're coming and they...
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pester the da they're like hey they're willing to talk to you get the interview scheduled they fly to atlanta when they arrive in atlanta and they get ready to go talk to the ramses where are the ramses you know do you know i don't they're on a plane back to boulder so they knew the cops were coming they knew the cops had traveled across half the country to interview them
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And that they had just been on national television saying we want to cooperate, we want to talk to the cops. And instead of waiting, you know, in the place where the Boulder police would have less jurisdiction, by the way, might even in fact need the Georgia police to make the arrest should they decide to do that. But Mattis, I'm sure that John had a very important meeting he couldn't miss.
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No, he had to go stay at his friend's house. uh the important meeting he couldn't miss was the one that suddenly popped up on december 26 1996 40 minutes after he found his daughter's body in his own basement killed with instruments from inside the home yes yeah a meeting in atlanta that he had to go to when he had been planning to fly to michigan that night yep you know that the
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this meeting he couldn't miss that didn't exist six hours prior.
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It's very important, you know? But, you know, it's whatever. And then later on in the book, he says, I don't realize it at the time, but the first action police should take in a missing child situation is to thoroughly search the entire house in case the child has fallen asleep or is playing or hiding in some unusual place. Unfortunately, the police did not conduct an extensive search of our home.
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Seven sentences in. Seven sentences in, Aiden. Because Patsy, and this in my opinion is her trying to explain why, you know, oh, well, she was just getting on a plane, you know, she said they always do that. She's the suspect. I don't care what she says, unless it contradicts something else. So as I'm going through here, what do I find? All right. So, uh, this is her waking up.
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It's fascinating, isn't it? It is. Just how that happens. So, you know, the cops actually...
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didn't screw that up a lot of people harp on this and like well they should have checked anyway there was literally no reason to it would have been a waste of time in the investigation they were trying to conduct that room could not grant you access from outside of the home into the home therefore it was not a point of entry and what they were looking for at that time was a point of entry because they had been told very explicitly we have a kidnapping here
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Now, what I showed you later in the book was actually, I've lost track of the page at this point, but it's the part where John and Rod Westmoreland are talking, I'm trying to find it again, about the FBI involvement, right?
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And Rod Westmoreland, by the way, is the one who scheduled that interview with CNN for the Ramseys. The Ramseys would later say it was Fleet White for absolutely no reason, and then they would blame Fleet White for killing their daughter. Here we go. All right. How many of you are on the case? All right. How many of you are on the case right now? Rod pressed. You know what?
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No, I should, I should probably give some context of where we are in the story here. Yeah. What's the day in time? So I, he says, I do remember that detectives aren't in Mason came back and forth a number of times to talk to us. So, you know, I'm just kind of going through here. I just want to make sure I'm right about this one because I, from what I can tell, Aiden,
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The conversation I'm about to read to you guys happened on December 26th, 1996, the first night that they were at the Fernies.
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Yeah, the day that all this occurred, right. I just want to make sure of this, you know. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure so far. I want to make sure I'm right about this one. Yeah, for a long time it couldn't exist. It's difficult to recall much of what happened during the next 24 hours. So this is the next 24 hours after they had gone to the Fernies.
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So theoretically, this discussion could have happened before 9.30 p.m. on December 27th. Could have happened during it, but... It didn't, and here's how I know that. So this conversation he is suggesting happened on December 27th, based on what's here, or late at night on the 26th. Art and Mason weren't there on the 26th, so it has to have been the 27th, right?
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So... Uniformed police officers were there around the clock, watching, listening, taking notes about her behavior, I suppose. Only vaguely can I recall them talking to me. The police kept asking questions. We answered as best we could. No, they didn't. They say that Arndt and Mason came back multiple times. That does not appear to be the case. But this page right here, it's about where is the FBI?
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Now, keep in mind, Aiden, this is after they knew it was a murder. The FBI does not do homicide. The FBI does organized crime homicide. They do homicide across state lines. They do kidnappings. But a homicide in one jurisdiction? That's not the FBI's job. Now the FBI can have their presence requested, right?
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And by December 27th, by the nighttime of December 27th, they had verbal confirmation from Agent Walker and two other FBI agents that all they needed to do was call. Right? So here we go. Rod Westmoreland, my good friend who had helped raise the ransom money arrived from Atlanta. I was grateful to see him. Over the 20 years I had known Rod, he'd always come to my aid when I needed him.
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For him to leave Atlanta during the Christmas season and during a busy time of the year for him professionally was no small sacrifice. He started questioning the police, hammering away on what I wanted to know. Now, when Rod Westmoreland introduced himself to the police, he told them he was an attorney. He's a financial advisor. All right. How many of you are on the case right now? Rod pressed.
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She says, I hear John turning on the water in his bathroom and realize that it is still dark. We go down a little bit. Uh, nothing super important in the first six sentences, take a shower, get dressed, get going. I swing out of bed and abruptly remember that my shower is still broken. Don't need one this morning. I think to myself, just put my clothes on.
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Well, there's eight of us. Rod pressed further. Well, where are the rest of them? Keep in mind, it's the only time this specific conversation could have happened, so far as I understand, is after 9.30 p.m. on December 27th. At the very least, it was the afternoon of December 27th. It could not have been any earlier than that. 27th or 26th? 27th. Okay. It can have been the 26th. You'll see why.
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How many of you are on the case right now, Rod pressed? Well, there's eight of us. Rod pressed further. Well, where are the rest of them? Actually, a couple are on vacation and a few are sick, the detective answered. Let me put it another way, Rod bore down. Exactly how many are working on this problem right now? Detective Arndt and I are here, the detective sounded as if he were backpedaling.
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We have another person working at the house. You're telling me that you only have two or three at most working on the case, Rod glared at the man. Something like that, the detective admitted. The FBI, Rod asked again. We only have to call them, the detective explained. On December 26th, let me go back for a moment here. On December 26th, where was I? Lost my train of thought for a moment.
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There were three detectives working the case. On December 27th, however, there were, in fact, a larger number. I think at least five. Might have been as many as eight. The FBI had already left. They had said, you know, we'll help if you request it, right? So, this conversation, based on everything that's in here, has to have happened on the 27th.
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Because in order for the FBI to have already said, you know, we're clear, you know, we'll help out, It has to have been the 27th. Okay? If there's also eight officers working it. But if there's eight officers working it, then there aren't three officers working it. You know? I'm trying to remember. There was a point I made earlier that I'm really struggling to get back into my head. Yeah.
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Our kidnapping murder case was not being given the earth-shattering importance we wanted and expected. The morning of the 26th, I'd been told the FBI was on the way. Now I learned they weren't even on the case. The morning of the 26th, I had learned... Not that morning. The morning of the 26th. This was on the 27th. On the 26th, the FBI was on the way.
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And of course my makeup now ignoring the fact that I don't know why you'd put on a full face of makeup to go on a plane ride to Michigan or Minnesota. Sorry. Um, They're coming for us. I think that's a fire truck. Yeah.
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Now John's being told they're not even on the case. Well, that's funny because John was there when FBI agent Ron Walker walked into his home. So John had met the FBI agent on his case. And he should have understood at that point that this was a homicide and not a kidnapping. And therefore, this was not an FBI case. This is framing what he's doing right here, in my opinion.
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So, yeah, and if we look at this one, because it's Art and Mason, Art and Mason weren't there on the 26th, so it can't have been Art and Mason. If it's Art and Mason, it has to be on the 27th, but if it was on the 27th, then there were more than three detectives working on the case. The three detectives he's mentioning here are Everett, himself, and Art, if Mason's the one answering questions.
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This has to have happened. This conversation must have been the one that Arndt and Mason had with them on the 27th. Which means that the details of this conversation cannot have occurred. He's either somehow misremembering these two things, or he's deliberately lying about it.
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So, you know, and I apologize for getting a little more rambling in here. I had stuff specifically highlighted and outlined, but I didn't have a ton of time to get through it. So we're now past that point. But... I mean... Later, Rod spoke privately, telling me what he heard made him suspicious of the ability of these police officials and what they were doing.
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He didn't like how they were handling our case. Now, keep in mind... Rod is a financial advisor. Rod is not an attorney. Rod is not a criminal investigator. Rod is not a journalist who covers these kinds of things. Rod knows absolutely nothing about criminal justice. The police consider this man a suspect, not officially, but they consider him a suspect at this point.
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So I want to know why it is that, you know, John is is framing it as if the FBI never showed up when they did. Why he's framing a conversation that happened on the 27th as having happened on perhaps or sorry, why he's framing a conversation that can't have happened on the 27th as having happened on the 27th.
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And why, you know, he's leaving out the fact that at this point, if this is the conversation in question on the 27th, he's supposed to be answering questions about what happened to his about the night before. He's not supposed to be hammering the detective, asking questions about why aren't you solving this case. By this point, the police were basically doing everything they could.
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There was nothing else that could be done here, you know? So if we go back a little bit. Really quickly, I just want to clarify.
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That's what I'm saying. In order for this conversation to have happened with the people involved, it has to have happened on the 27th. But in order for the details of the conversation to be accurate, it has to have happened on the 26th.
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No, he's implying the conversation happened, and I don't think it did.
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The characters involved in that conversation mean it must have happened on the 27th. But the details of the conversation show it must have happened on the 26th. Those are mutually exclusive. this cannot be a real conversation. And it's suspicious to me that he remembered the details of that conversation so very well. You know?
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Because if you read Thomas' book and you read Kohler's book, it's always a lot more, like, broad, like, believable that this was said and he remembered it two years later. And this is a guy who had case notes. John, who doesn't have case notes, or at least only has what the DA gave him, he has perfect recollection of all of these conversations. Now, where do we go here? Okay. Where were we?
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Where were we? Yeah. Officer French takes Detective Arndt in to meet Patsy. Mrs. Ramsey says, if my child were missing, this is the detective I would want working the case. You can rest assured you're in good hands now. Um, aren't would go on to be the one that they consistently showed as being insane. Um, okay.
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I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on that one. I just think it's weird.
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She tells her that oftentimes kidnappers will get scared and drop off the child at a supermarket parking lot. Then we'll find her. Linda aren't had absolutely no business being a detective. I mean, I got a lot of flack on TikTok for, you know, not talking about some of the police problems here. There were definitely police problems. They messed up a number of times, very seriously.
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But, you know, here's what I think is especially weird. Aiden, can you do the thing where you put what's on your screen on that screen? Yes. Because I want to really drill down on this whole thing. Yeah. John turning on the water could mean a number of things. John could be shaving. John could be showering. John could be washing his face. John could be fixing his hair.
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No, it's not. I mean, they were on the wrong foot when they got there because they thought it was a kidnapping. It was not.
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very rapidly changed. Oh, and it was also 100% the civil government's fault that the police department was so unequipped for this, by the way.
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Yeah, exactly. Basically, anybody who was doing the policing job correctly... They pushed out. They were like, no, no, no. Boulder's not a violent city. They're not criminals. They should be treated like citizens who haven't done anything wrong. And you know what? If somebody's smoking weed in their backyard, yeah. They probably don't deserve to be arrested and shipped to jail.
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But if somebody's waving knives at passers-by in an intersection and they charge a cop... Shooting them is really the only option.
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Thomas. And when did that happen? Steve Thomas.
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At another point, the exact words of Pete Hofstrom, who's going to become very important in this story as the recorded series goes along, in the words of Pete Hofstrom, couldn't you have just whacked him with a stick or something? And remind the audience, who is that? Deputy DA Pete Hofstrom? Yes.
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He was one of the deputy DAs basically leading the prosecution here and was the one who was all buddy-buddy with Ramsey attorney Brian Morgan.
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And like, according to Thomas went to Brian Morgan at one point. And I, I will say, you know, with Thomas, with some of the stuff it is, you know, I heard this from another person in the department. Um, I trust Thomas's statements about what he witnessed himself, uh, Very well.
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Also, I can't wait to go over the deposition that Eldon Wood, the guy who pretended he had proof positive that the 2020 election was stolen, like that guy, who turned out to not even really have an argument. He just was kind of like, yeah, I got it. I have this. It's definitely there for like six months. If you read the deposition and you know what a deposition is,
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You can tell, and we went over this in the last episode, you can tell of this show. Thomas was looking at this going, I am not going to give you anything that you can use as grounds to sue me. Mm-hmm. That's all it was.
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Would you can tell from the way he speaks, he's trying to do the thing lawyers do in depositions where they ask questions in such a legalese way that you don't even know what you're saying by the end of it.
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You know, I wish I had it right in front of me, but they were like, you know, do you or do you not think that sometimes a person who has been arrested but not yet charged might be found innocent or guilty of a crime that they were not guilty of at the time that they were charged of it? And you're like, What? Yeah. That's how the questions read. And he's not being given written questions here.
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There are a number of possibilities as to what John could be doing in the bathroom. Right. That involved turning the water on. Aiden, if you are in a rush, say that it is 545 a.m. and you have to be at the airport that is 15 minutes away in 45 minutes. How long is your shower? If I'm showering, it's very short. Right. So assuming John was even showering, two to five minutes max, right? I think so.
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He doesn't have time to digest that. He's like... I think sometimes people are arrested... and found guilty. Yeah. But what Wood was trying to do was get him to say sometimes people who have been suspected aren't actually guilty, which is a no-brainer, and Thomas basically says as much in the deposition. but what is trying to force it to a point where it can be used in the court.
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I'm trying to find one specific thing in here because it is so very relevant. I'm struggling to catch it because it is about... Oh, by the way, there's a strange vehicle in the alley behind the Barn Hills. I note. This is John. He didn't mention it to cops for months. That came out, I think, in, like, April. But, you know, it's sure in the book. Oh, we also have... I forgot.
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Suddenly, I remember that Mike Archuleta is to meet us at the Jeffco Airport. I need to call him and explain what happened. JonBenet's been kidnapped, I tell him, then ask him to get a message to the big kids to call me immediately when they arrive in Minneapolis. Not sure how the pilot was supposed to do that one. Also, the pilot did not say this happened when he was interviewed.
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Okay, at this point, I'm not sure whether they should come to Denver or go back to Atlanta. The next time he called, it was JonBenet is dead and I need to go to Atlanta. That's what Archuleta said. Archuleta also said that, like, you know, the story was a little different the two times, but that's obviously the kidnapping. Where are we? The note says the kidnappers will be watching.
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Maybe I can catch them looking at us. The note also said that if you spoke to so much as a stray dog, John, they were going to kill your daughter. There are police outside your house. If the kidnappers are real, JonBenet is dead. He's too smart to be this stupid. Like, he's legitimately too smart to be this stupid. Is an issue in this case. What else do we have here?
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The one... It's driving me insane, because somewhere in this book... Is that it? Um... God, where is the part? There's one point in here where he says that either he says or Patsy says that John was sitting by the phone all morning and the call never came. So I'm trying to find the bit about the call not coming. When the phone rings, walking up the stairs, several officers. Where is this part?
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The call from the ransomers. Okay. Yeah, so the call from the ransomers was supposed to come. At some point in here, it said that John was waiting in the solarium or something like that, wherever they had the phone all day or all morning. According to the detectives who were there, that's not true at all. John was bouncing around the house. They had to drag him back into that room multiple times.
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Right, of course. Especially with a man with short hair. Yeah, of course. So, and he had short hair. Go ahead and put the Ramsey's third floor plan up on the screen for me.
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So, once again, John directly contradicting the observations of multiple police detectives and officers. It's driving me pretty insane that I cannot find the exact passage. But, you know. Oh, wait, I love this part. A person comes up and says he's Detective Mason. I assume he is with the FBI. Finally, the police will get help, I think.
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Later, I will learn that Mason is another Boulder PD detective and that the police have, in fact, kept the FBI at bay, not letting them inside the house. That wasn't true. The FBI only got there at 11. They were in the briefing room for 45 minutes because, again, this was a kidnapping incident. There was no reason to believe they were actively needed at the house at that moment.
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They still had to get the briefing done, right? They're still trying to figure out what to do here because for the FBI, they're not crime scene techs. The crime scene techs are crime scene techs. The detectives are detectives. The FBI doesn't need to be there at that time. So they're where they're supposed to be at the headquarters being briefed on what happened.
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Once again, John Ramsey framing the police. And I, you know, just for legal reasons, what I mean by that is framing the situation, not framing them as in accusing them, pinning the crime on them.
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You know, like they have a set of procedures they have to work through. If you can circumvent it, then you win. It doesn't matter if you just have really good lawyers like the Ramseys did, because the Ramsey lawyers managed to get their hands on every single piece of evidence the police had. Not from the police.
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Let's see, where are we now? Ah, here we go. I found the line. I thought it was at the top of the page. It's actually in the middle. I pace back and forth in front of the telephone, desperately wanting it to ring, but it doesn't. 10 o'clock comes and goes. Nothing. The note says the kidnapper will call tomorrow.
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I suddenly realize I don't know when the note was written, so I don't know for sure whether tomorrow means the 26th or 27th. Now, obviously... the note was written on the night of the 25th into the 26th. I think that tomorrow, under the circumstances, could have meant the 27th.
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There we go. That was the first floor. Can you pull up the third floor?
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But I think if you're a ransomer breaking into the house and you're aware they're going to find this note on the morning of the 26th, Does it make more sense for you to say, I will call between 8 and 10 a.m. today? Or does it make more sense to say, I will call between 8 and 10 a.m. tomorrow, if you're calling on the 26th?
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Yes, exactly. Whether you wrote it at 12 p.m. or whether you wrote it at 11 p.m. or 1 a.m., they're asleep, they're finding the note in the morning, you're writing today, if you mean the 26th. You might write tomorrow, however... If you were writing the note from inside the house, so to speak. If you are Patsy Ramsey writing a note and it's 11 p.m., then it's tomorrow.
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Damn, this is what happens when you order Jamie from Wish. So, Aiden, what do you notice about that floor plan right there? Specifically about the number of bathrooms? That there are two of them. There are two of them, Aiden. So, if you are husband and wife and have been for, I believe at this point, it was nearly 20 years...
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If you're the ransomer, it's today. Just like how on the gravestone, when the cause of death was determined to most likely be on the 26th, they put the 25th.
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Interesting, isn't it? Uh, where are we? The time center officers are dusting with, uh, 10 o'clock comes and goes, dusting with black fingerprint powder, Chief Police Tom Kobe. Ah, yeah, the Chief Police Tom Kobe will later say they didn't treat the house as a crime scene because they thought it was only a kidnapping. That one's on Kobe. He was a moron.
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Like, everything I read about this Kobe guy from either side, he was clearly... A patsy, actually.
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Oh, how Kobe came in and basically threw out all the rule books, all the training manuals, all the procedures, got rid of several different ranks, established one rank in between him and Sargent. You know, went for a it was a police others as you would have them police unto you was the actual quote.
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Oh, yeah. A guy had shot at his wife. And was saying he was basically going to commit a murder-suicide. He charged Thomas with a handgun raise. This was while Thomas was on the SWAT team. Charged Thomas with a handgun raise. Thomas dropped him. And he got reprimanded for it.
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Yeah. And they were like, stop shooting people who are trying to kill you.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, right, yeah. They sent him to conflict resolution training or something. Yep, yep. Let's see.
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trying to find uh any of the other interesting because i didn't get super far because there were so much in the first five pages i will say it is 8 11 so we know it is we should go to super chat yeah yeah so uh what you guys are gonna get once we get through the chronology and everything because once again i'm not gonna use the suspect's book in the attempt to understand what happened.
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I am going to look at the suspect's book and consider it the book written by the suspect. I'm going to trust the police on this one a little bit more than the suspect, especially when the suspect is lying multiple times in the first five pages. We got seven sentences in to the chapter about the morning of December 26th and there was a lie. Seven sentences.
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So what you guys are going to get once we get through the chronology here, the way the series is probably going to break down is that we're going to take it up through the grand jury in 1998.
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And then from there, it will be probably, I'm hoping, for the love of God, I hope it's just one part, going through what evidence was determined after 1998 and basically what the two sides are and what the evidence is for each. So that will include an analysis of this book.
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Are you going to balk at, you know, showering in the same room as your spouse or even at the same time?
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I'm guessing it happened to you just like it happened to me and half the other people in the comments. Do you want to comment on that a little bit? I just, I, there was one that came up today. Um, I'm going to pull up my tech talk really quick. Um, if you don't follow me on tech talk, it's at the Aiden Mattis.
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Um, and I, I do have a lot of followers over there, which is, is kind of crazy because I barely post anymore. This is the only reason I'm posting on tech talk right now. Um, was it this one? No, it was this one. Yes. So one of the things I've seen come up a lot is how doors into the home and windows into the home were not locked on that morning, as they had been said to be. Right.
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No. So why is it a problem that her shower doesn't work if there is yet another shower? Aiden, can you switch to the second floor floor plan for me? How many bathrooms are on that floor? One, two, three looks like. And is one of them not in Melinda's room?
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One specific one that was brought up was, by the way, all of the doors were in fact locked. This one is, the butler pantry exterior door was actually found open. There were also a few windows unlocked because they had extension cords going through for Christmas lights. Now, I do want to read through because extension cords going through does not necessitate the window being unlocked.
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You can drill a hole. Like, that's very doable. Some windows you might even be able to get it through while keeping the window locked. Depending on what kind of window we're talking about. But that butler pantry door. John Ramsey said he checked all the doors the night before and all of them were locked. John Ramsey said he checked all the doors the morning of and all of them were locked.
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Now, when did he do this? I'm not sure considering the timeline he gave us. But yeah, all the doors were locked.
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If I remember correctly, it was Fernie. Who found the open door was either him or Haverstock. It was either him or Haverstock, the reverend. One of them found that the door, this pantry door was open to the outside. It's a butler pantry, so I guess you can go in and out. That was after everybody had checked. That was after the cops had gone around and looked to make sure all the doors were closed.
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Checked all the points of entry at 6.30 that morning. Oh, well, you know, they didn't find her body in the wine cellar, so... So it's unclear exactly what time that was, but I would wonder, and try and triangulate this based on other statements, I would wonder if that syncs up at all with around 10.30 a.m. That's a good question. Because if that door is found open after 10.30 a.m.,
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Well, JonBenet Ramsey, or sorry, Jon Ramsey disappeared around 10.30 a.m. For how long? About an hour and a half. I haven't even gotten to the part where he apparently... It's apparently explained at some point. He says what he was doing during that time period. I haven't gotten there yet. Despite the fact that I've been reading four books on this case. I am jumping around a good amount.
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I'm not reading them chronologically all the way through, but... I have yet to get to that part. So might be that he said he was getting his mail. I don't know if it is, then I'm, I have to laugh.
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That's valid. Taylor Swift is the best pop punk writer of all time.
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Yep. So do you know... Well, one of them is JonBenet's.
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Because here's what I've seen a lot of. Patsy was a doting mother to JonBenet. Patsy was a doting mother to JonBenet. Just JonBenet. That's what I'm seeing. Everybody who knew Burke as a child described him as withdrawn, introverted, irritable. Somebody at some point said that they tapped him on the shoulder and he recoiled and said, don't touch me.
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Yeah, exactly. So... There's at least two bathrooms here. I think one of them is also Burke's, though. But point is, Melinda, where's Melinda? Seems to be on the northwest. I mean, December 26th, 1996. Where's Melinda? Oh, not in this house. Not in Boulder at all. So why is it that Patsy can't take a shower because her shower, one of like six on the upper two floors, isn't working?
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I don't think those children were treated remotely equally. And that could be because of, you know, favoritism, or it could be because early on Burke showed some weird signs. You know, I, I, yeah, it's all just so weird. Next.
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Charlevoix, which I believe is in the Upper Peninsula.
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Yeah, let me see. I'm going to look it up where it is really quick, but continue.
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Okay, it's not Upper Peninsula, but it is Northern Michigan.
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Yeah, and Patsy was one of those women. Yep. Burton Moran says, has anyone looked into the parents? Oh, yeah, I didn't really drill down on that enough, by the way. Like, again, Patsy's description of what happened here, if you go through it really quick, I'm going to just... Like, hang on. I swing out of bed and abruptly remember that my shower is still broken.
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Don't need one this morning, I think to myself. Just put my clothes on and, of course, my makeup. I remember my mother's words. Never leave the house without your makeup. Plus, we were going to be with Melinda's fiance, Stuart, so I want to make a good impression. Going to be at the airport. I reach for my clothes and start dressing.
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Minutes later, I hurry down the back stairs from our bedroom to the second floor where the children's bedrooms are located. Aiden, do you notice that there was a step there that did not get mentioned as having been completed?
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Makeup. She says... Now, if she goes, you know, so I want to make a good impression, got to be at the airport by 6.30 or so, going to push us to get everyone going because time is so short. I mean, you could have... Picked a later flight time. It's your private plane.
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Yeah, considering the flight path here is Denver to Minnesota to pick up the other ones and then Michigan... I'm not sure what the... That's a full day of flying.
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They can go whenever they want. I cannot think of a single time of the few times that we did have to fly as a family.
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When I was a child, I can't, even if we were just going on a road trip or something, if we had to be on the road by a certain point, I can't really think of a single time that I was woken up less than half an hour before we had to be wherever, like not just on the road, but like the airport. Like if we had to be on the road at 6am, my parents were waking me up at five.
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Great question. There is no reason. There is absolutely zero reason she could not shower if she wanted to. In my opinion, that is an explanation meant to say, this is why I was already dressed just 11 minutes after I woke up.
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And we would never actually do it. No, it'd be 11.30 if we were lucky. It was usually my mom's fault. Sorry, Mom, I love you, but you are the reason I have a habit of being late. Wonderful woman. Like, I could not have asked for a better mother, but... If there was one thing she could be better about, it would be punctuality. Because I have the problem now, too.
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But yeah, so Patsy never actually mentions putting on makeup. And the reason that that is relevant, in my opinion, is that she was wearing makeup. And she mentioned that she reached for her clothes and got dressed. But she doesn't mention putting makeup on. And also, again, the kind of makeup Patsy wore takes more than 30 seconds.
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There's not enough time in this story for her to have gotten dressed and put on a full face of makeup.
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Because she called the cops at 5.52, called Barbara Fernie at 5.53, called Fleet White at 5.54, and then the police got there at 5.56.
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Got him out of the lie because it was so obvious. On the way home, JonBenet had fallen asleep in the back seat. This is Jon speaking. I got her out of the car and carried her upstairs to her room, laid her on her bed, and took off her coat and shoes. I was amazed at how sound asleep she was. It had been a long day for her. Patsy came in to finish getting JonBenet ready for bed.
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It also explains why she still has a full face of makeup.
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That's not like Patsy mixing up which order she found the note and found JonBenet not in her room. That's an understandable one. That is a complete change of story. That is my daughter was awake and I spent time reading to her to my daughter was asleep and I tucked her in and then my wife came in and finished tucking her in. Those are two completely different narratives in every way. Yep.
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I'm trusting the one he gave the morning of. So.
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Behavioral arts. Yes, I certainly can. And then I wouldn't say that we've finished our deep dive, but I'm happy to talk about what we know so far.
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Oh yeah. We'll definitely go on behavioral arts. Yeah. Yeah. Tell me. We're going on his channel. We're going. If he wants us, we'll go. All right. Let him know. We'll do it. I mean, I've done it the very least. I think the deepest dive on the first 48 hours. Kill me. You guys have no idea how late I was up.
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Yeah, it is pretty difficult. You have to grab a few bottles and carry them. Really hard. Yeah, extremely difficult. Very difficult thing to do. Amanda absolutely never decides to shower in one bathroom instead of the other in our apartment.
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I'm just going to level with you guys. If we could get our Patreon and YouTube and everything to $5,000 more than it currently is a month, we can hire an editor and we can really change some stuff. At the very least, it gives him time to do his producer role and actually make sure everything's where it's supposed to be.
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The problem is we need to make more money to hire an editor, and we also want that person to be local.
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At least local enough to be in the office once every couple of weeks. Yeah. So, you know, we're struggling. We could probably get an editor online for cheap, but we want to find somebody who we can interact with face-to-face. Yeah.
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Yeah, so if you do want to help us with that, you can join this channel. You can become a member over on Patreon. When's the new Liquor Lore featuring Stakuyi coming out?
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Yep, you get not only Stephen Bell and I arguing about history while rather inebriated, but you also get Celso giving a tutorial on how to make the drink we were drinking. Yes. Which I think is a pretty cool new addition. Yep, 100%. And that's going to be the rest of them from now on.
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We're working on it. One thing that you guys could really help us with is telling us what Pepperbox exclusive content you'd want to see. Because we're trying to think of something, but every time we do, it's like a little too similar to something they've already got going on.
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And it needs to be something that doesn't require me doing the level of research that I do for... for the normal Lorelai studios because I just don't have time. I mean, you know, Pepperbox, the big thing we want to bring over there if we get to join would be some bigger documentaries.
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You know, us doing stuff like following the Donner Party Trail, going to Granby, Colorado, and, you know, interviewing people about Marf Heemeyer, like doing full-scale documentaries.
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So, you know, being able to, that stuff for Pepperbox we could do very much. What we need to pitch to those guys is, hey, here's what we can give you every month. So if you can give us ideas for what you would watch, what would get you to spend that $8, you know, let us know. And we will do our best to make it happen so we can give a proof of concept.
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No, I mean, she does. It happens frequently. No, no, no, but I mean, like, if you're in a pinch that morning... I mean, I guess it would be really hard to walk 30 feet. You know? But you might be thinking, Aiden, come on. You're being so nitpicky here. Ready? All right. Well, what's this? I wonder. I turn around. This is as she's going down the spiral staircase, by the way, which really quickly.
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I would love to be able to hand them something this spring.
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Uh, Dice, uh... Gotta start a Lorelodge PTSD fund people can just Venmo to.
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Ooh. That would be a good thing to watch to, uh, prime myself. think that'd be helpful yeah i'm glad there are so many people who are doing good work on this right now i think i mean conspiracy theory here uh in my opinion i think john ramsey is behind the netflix documentary oh was that i'm sorry hypothetically was that not blatantly obvious to everybody i think it was but i
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I think that it was definitely him, in my opinion. And I think the reason was to, you know, now that so many of the other investigators are just out, you know, they're either old or they're no longer in police work or they're so far removed that they're not doing anything with it anymore. And a lot of them just don't have that kind of money.
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So I think that for John, this was an opportunity for him to keep the narrative going in his direction. In a way that contradicts something that came out about seven years prior. Yeah. So in 2016, there was the CBS documentary that really... You know, there are a couple of flaws with it, and I will go through them if I have time. Possibly in a live show, possibly in a recorded.
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It depends on what I got time for. But like, for example, the idea that she was not sexually assaulted that morning is nonsense. And they presented that as a possibility. You know, they were like, well, that splinter could have gotten in there somehow else. And I was like, there's blood. Like, you know, I'm thinking, I think we know what happened there.
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But yeah, so the CBS documentary, I think, did a very good job of sort of pointing out all of the misrepresentations from Team Ramsey over the years. The Dr. Phil interview Burke did just made things worse. So, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if this was supposed to happen sooner. Oh, I think it was. I think this was... I think this was probably supposed to happen around the time COVID happened.
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Yeah, so... And I think that there is some stuff with this. I guess something came out in maybe 2018 with DNA or something, like a new software. But I think that the reason this documentary on Netflix exists is to keep the narrative going in John's direction. The difference between right now and 2016. In 2016, there were podcasts that you listened to on your phone.
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Minutes later, I got to be at the airport by 630. Going to push us to get everyone going because time is so short. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We're going to be meeting up with Melinda's fiance, Stuart. So that's why I want to make a good impression. This is why she's got her makeup on, right? Mm-hmm.
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about sports there are a few true crime things podcasting in 2016 was something people did as a hobby in their free time or as a way to like try and maybe you know get a concept going for a show john is 80 years old i don't think he realized the hornet's nest he was about to kick Because the true crime girlies, they probably loved, according to TikTok, they loved that documentary.
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That documentary made the police so bad. You know, you can capitalize on all the animosity towards the police over the last few years by making them the villains again. What I don't think, if John Ramsey did this on purpose, if this was his intention, was to make this documentary to keep the intruder narrative at the forefront, because that's what the documentary does in the end.
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I don't think he realized that there were going to be people who do this professionally. Who aren't doing this in their free time. Who this isn't the thing they do after their 9 to 5 to talk about something they're interested in. There are people who dedicate their lives to this. I think he made a major misstep. If, again, that was his intention.
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I, I will say this has opened my eyes to that possibility. Um, I have been very critical of the cops in a number of, uh, a number of situations that I've now gone back and thought about. And I'm like, Hmm, that could have been the DA. But as a cop, you can't really come out and say that because if you do, you lose your job and you never get hired ever again.
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So minutes later, I hurry down the back stairs from our bedroom to the second floor where the children's bedrooms are located. I stop at the top of the spiral stairs that lead down to the first floor and I turn to the laundry area. Need to get a few things together for the trip. I think to myself, not much since we've already got clothes and most necessary items back at the house in Charlevoix.
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So and what they did to Steve Thomas after this was brutal. Like they were they were really threatening to blackmail the guy.
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So that's the thing. It wasn't necessarily the exact same. It was similar. So it was, and we'll be getting, this is why I do the recorded one. These ones, as you can probably tell, are more me like doing kind of the investigative work here because I can, what's great about this show is if I say something and I happen to be wrong, I'd be like, ah, cool, I'll fix that. Mm-hmm.
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The recorded thing, it's a lot more embarrassing.
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I need a ball. You have the ball. I have the ball. He has the actual ball. I have the cane. Oh, yeah. Nice. Perfect. We're ready. Thank you to the Grand Lodge of Tennessee for my cane. So where was I? What was I saying? Oh, yeah, the stuff. Yeah, it wasn't the exact same. And they eventually did do an analysis of the materials.
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And they found that the duct tape that was in the home did not match the duct tape from Merv Pew. They also were able to identify the exact nylon cord. And you know what's funny about that part? What's that? The exact nylon cord that they identified?
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Well, Steve Thomas and his partner, Ron Goseage, I think it was those two, went through because the DA would not help them get a warrant for the Ramsey's credit card purchases. Which, again, utterly mind-blowing. Yeah, it doesn't make much sense, does it?
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So the police department's there, and they're very confused about where all of this is coming from. It turns out down the line, through one of Thomas' informants, that it's D.A. Hunter who's leaking everything and has been leaking everything for basically 20 years. Um... So if you've got that much of an apparatus on your side, it's kind of easy to get away with this kind of thing.
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Like, I can think of zero... First of all, if I'm the Ramseys, and I didn't do it, I don't see what the danger is in handing over my credit card details. There is none. Like, what could possibly be on there that you're trying to hide? You know, if there is something that, like, you're worried this might make me look bad, if you're like, oh, crap, I bought that nylon cord.
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I quickly shove some of the laundry into a plastic sack so that it will go on the plane as is. John likes us to pack in soft-sided bags as it makes loading the plane easier. I don't even want to address that one because what are you talking about?
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The police are going to be far less suspicious if you go to them and you say, hey... Just so you know, that nylon cord came from inside our house. Like, I... I'm not sure why somebody used it, but I recognize that. That is a lot less suspicious than you going, I don't recall. Sometimes... Answering the question and cooperating is the right answer. Especially if you didn't do it.
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Because again, it's one thing, I will say, if the Ramseys were worth $7,000, I understand. I understand not wanting to talk to the police and worrying that they're going to be able to prosecute you and you won't be able to afford a good lawyer. The Ramseys have the best lawyers that money could buy. I mean...
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They were in no danger, if they were innocent, of telling the cops, yeah, that came from inside our house. Because all that does is prove that the murderer used something from inside the house. You know? It doesn't prove that it was them. And there's other stuff on that cord, like hair, DNA, things like that.
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There are other things that could be on the cord that are going to be far more implicating. In fact, it's a much stronger... claim if you go, hey, that's our nylon cord that they used to kill our daughter. And then they find there's none of your DNA on it. They're going to be like, oh, yeah. I mean, they were pretty forthcoming about that.
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I'm serious when I say had the Ramseys gone, if the Ramseys are innocent, had the Ramseys gone and spoken to the police immediately with lawyers present, the police were fine with there being lawyers there. If they had gone, what they weren't fine with was only having 90 minutes per person and having them in the room at the same time with each other.
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Plastic bags? No. They're rich. This is a woman who manicured... More specifically, surf bags. Okay, yes, yes, but plastic? A plastic garbage sack? For a woman who is all about performance? I'm not saying it's a smoking gun. I'm just trying to point out a few little inconsistencies here, because the bigger one's coming up. So here we go.
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They were like, no, we're not throwing out every single interrogation rule, every single interview rule to make the two prime suspects in this case more comfortable. So everybody acts like, oh, the police are being unreasonable because the average person in 1997 doesn't know That's not normal.
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The Rams come out and they're like, yeah, we keep trying to interview with the police and they keep giving us all these weird rules and saying that, you know, we have to be interviewed separately and blah, blah, blah. Yeah, because that's how that works. But if you're the general public in 1996, you don't know that necessarily. You might, but And you can't just look it up. That's the other thing.
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We all think about this. We've all got supercomputers. For 1996, this is a supercomputer. We have them in our pockets. I can look up in a heartbeat, you know, is this true?
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Unless you've already interviewed them separately.
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And for months, the Ramseys are telling the media, we keep trying to cooperate and they keep giving us all sorts of weird rules about it. We're trying and they just won't let us. And then the police are like, no, you want things that we don't give people. Um, God, it's just, it's so frustrating.
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So in this specific case, that's a non-factor because her bathroom was non-sweet. So she did not have to leave her bedroom to get into her bathroom. Um, Another thing bedwetting can be a sign of... Is abuse. And specifically... Incest. You don't have to take that from me. You can go look it up. Because that's where I learned it. Mayo Clinic. Cleveland Clinic. FBI. You know what else the FBI says?
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It's usually the parents. You know what else the FBI said? Man, that evidence sure looks like it was the parents. You know what the CBI said? That sure looks like Patsy's handwriting. One of my favorite things is somebody brought up the deposition of Steve Thomas. And they said, there's one point at which L. Lynn Wood is questioning him.
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And he goes, you know, you said that Chet Yubowski, the CBI analyst who looked over the handwriting samples, said that 24 out of 26 characters matched Patsy's handwriting. Um, are you aware that Chet Ubowski has denied saying this and said that they don't even do that? Like that's not a kind of analysis they do.
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And Steve Thomas's answer was, okay, well, this is what I was told by the other detectives. I was not aware that Ubowski had said that. Also, if I remember correctly, Ubowski said that in like 2001. Um, it was, it was after the book had come out, if I'm not mistaken. Uh, What Yabowski did say, however, was these handwriting samples indicate Patsy was the author.
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What the Ramsey side clutches to is that he said he was unwilling to take the stand and definitively say this was Patsy Ramsey. It wasn't that he was unwilling to take the stand at all. He was unwilling to take the stand and say that his analysis was that it was Patsy Ramsey. What he was willing to say was that it indicated Patsy could be the author.
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And that, you know, they've now spun a web where somehow, the only actual statement he made, which was, these handwriting samples indicate that Patsy could be the author. That's the only thing he actually said. And they latch on to the fact that he was unwilling to testify that it was definitely Patsy. That is so, so deceptive. And I'm not saying that's the Ramseys necessarily.
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I hurry down the spiral staircase to the bottom floor and stop. And this is when she says she finds something on the floor. Now keep in mind the thing she said when they first questioned her. Closest to the events. What was it?
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Because I will say one very real possibility here is that the attorneys the Ramseys thought were a great team might have just been the worst defense attorneys to ever exist. Because if the Ramseys are innocent here... it's the advice of their attorneys that makes them seem so guilty. So, but yeah, I mean, their attorneys being like, well, look at that. See, he wasn't willing to take the stand.
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Also, basically, I think it was actually legitimately every single, but for the sake of, you know, legal reasons and covering my own ass, it seems like from what I can, from what I understand, the only handwriting analysts to say that it excluded John and Patsy, all of them said it excluded John and Burke, by the way.
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The only ones that said it did exclude Patsy were the investigators hired by the Ramsey attorneys. So police people couldn't exclude Patsy. DA's people couldn't exclude Patsy. CBI's people couldn't exclude Patsy. FBI's people couldn't exclude Patsy. Foster... the guy who analyzed the language in Kaczynski's writings and determined it was, in fact, Ted Kaczynski, he said it was Patsy.
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And a lot of people have been like, oh, well, that's not handwriting analysis. That's linguistics. That's not a hard science. You're right. It might not be considered scientific evidence. But in concert with the handwriting analysis, if you present it and you went, well, linguistically, this matches a profile that fits Patsy.
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Vassar also looked at the handwriting, by the way. Well, but also the- Not Vassar, Foster. He worked for Vassar College.
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Yes. 152 to zero. Being right versus wrong. He identified an unknown play or an unknown poem from the 1600s as being written by Shakespeare correctly. He identified the author of the book Primary Colors, even though it was under a pseudonym, by comparing the linguistics in Primary Colors to work by a number of other people and then triangulated which one was the author.
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Took the guy six months to finally admit it. So just to... That's what I mean is, yes, it's not a hard science. but he was never wrong. Yep. And in concert with the handwriting analysis, not necessarily the linguistic analysis, but the handwriting analysis, in my opinion, that's if I'm a juror, it's Patsy.
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It was, wake up, check on JonBenet, go downstairs. That's the same story here. That one is accurate, which means that there's deliberate misdirections going on.
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If you bring that to me as a juror and you say it was written on Patsy's notepad with a pen next to the phone, Patsy used to call police that sits next to the memo book that the notepad was, uh, in handwriting that can exclude everyone involved except Patsy with language that matches the way Patsy writes and talks. And then you tell me there's literally no other suspects for that handwriting?
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As a juror? That is beyond a reasonable doubt to me. At least that she wrote the note.
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For me, yeah. I have, and that is the real sticking point for me here. Of all the evidence in this case, I firmly believe Patsy wrote that note. In my opinion. Go on.
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So, again, in my opinion, I have no evidence of this. Alex Hunter does not appear to have given much indication that he planned to retire in 2000 prior to the grand jury. The grand jury seems to have happened because I think it was governor Romer, Colorado governor. I, from what I understand, I read him the riot act and was like, dude, I don't care what you think. Thomas is cooking us right now.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
Um, you know, the media is cooking us right now. You need to, you need to do this, you know? So he finally calls the grand jury. They vote to indict. And then he, you know, obfuscates the fact that they voted to indict and says that they're not going to proceed. And then he retires. My thinking is that this was probably a situation of, you know, if he retires, they won't charge him.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
Um, now the other thing is in order to charge him, it would have to be, uh, like his own people from the office would have to charge him. So my thinking is that he probably dipped, uh, you know, through support behind somebody who pledged not to charge him.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
And then, you know, went from there, but also it could just be at the DA's office was from what it's, it looks like they were all just like him. So charging him would be charging all of them.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
From what I understand, North Fox Island was totally defunct by this time. JonBenet was only six. I understand the idea that, oh, maybe they went and did something else, but Melinda was adamant that nothing like that happened to her family. And she was younger, or she was older, so she would have been around for a longer period of time here. Could it be Patsy's side?
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
So that's my point. Oh, sorry, yeah, this is the second story. This is my bad. Yeah, this is the second story. So she went with the latter story. That's what I was thinking. I was confusing myself as I was talking. I was like, wait a minute, I said something wrong here, and now I've got to find a way to bring it back, and then I didn't, so I'm glad you're here.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
Maybe, but John was the one with the connections. I will look into the North Fox Island thing, but I gotta be honest, I hate it. Not because I hate the concept, I do.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
North Fox Island is kind of like an Epstein situation. There was a porn ring. I guess there was some evidence or some proof, maybe, of it involving children. I don't see it. I'm going to be honest. Occam's Razor... A lot of more likely explanations here before you get to that. And also, you know, I just don't... I don't see it. I'm going to look into it. I am. I promise. But...
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
The abuse signs were more suggestive that it was somebody in the home, not somebody being sold. And also I think if that were happening, we would have stumbled across some video footage by now. I don't know. I just... It's not that I think it's impossible. I haven't looked too deeply into it, so I can't say for sure. But whenever stuff like that comes up, it tends to derail.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
Because the parents did it or something happened in that house and the parents covered it up. That's digestible for the average person. They're going to look at that and they're going, okay, yeah, I can see that. Most of the time when it is a child murdered in the home, it is the family. So yeah, this tracks. This makes sense. They had a lot of money. They had a lot of connections.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
They could have covered it up. This tracks. The second you bring in elite pedophile rings... you lose a third of the population the moment you say the words elite pedophile ring. The moment you go into more detail, you lose another third. Like, I would much rather people focus on the likely situation and see where it leads, then jump to the North Fox Island thing.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
If you can't tell, I've had a lot of caffeine today.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
And a lot of people have been like, oh, well, check out this guy's deep dive. Check out this guy's deep dive. It's really convincing. And I want to give everybody the benefit of the doubt, but a lot of people told me that there are flat earthers who are convincing. There aren't.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
So I'm going to look into it, but it is one of those things that a lot of the time, people on the pro-Ramsay side latch onto it, and they're like, see? It's just getting ridiculous at this point.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
Yeah, so anyway, this is the version she gave Arndt, not the version she gave French. So now I want to keep in mind that Arndt is the one that kind of got...
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
His interviews, all three of them, as a 9-year-old, as an 11-year-old, and as a... I guess he would have been 20-something at the time. All three of them make me deeply uncomfortable. As an older brother, all three of them actually make me hate him. From the time he was a 9-year-old kid, because I was a 9-year-old with a younger sister once. I don't have to judge him as a 27-year-old.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
As a 9-year-old, I would have found that odd. if you show me a video of my nine year old self acting that way, I'll be like, what was wrong with me? Like, did I need therapy? Like, so I think the idea that, you know, Burke's behavior was somehow normal. There is people coping. Um,
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
Whether he did it or didn't do it, miming the action of somebody stabbing or clubbing your sister, who is dead and has only been dead a week and a half, is weird. That's strange. Being asked to draw a picture of your family and drawing everyone but your sister, and then when the child psychologist asks, well, what about JonBenet, saying, well, she's not here anymore, so I didn't draw her.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
That's not normal behavior. He's, like, laughing throughout the interviews. I mean... I'll be honest. I think if this happened today, nobody would bat an eye at the idea that it was Burke. But because it happened in 1996, and people were, if we're being honest, a little more naive...
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
pushed to the outside by the rest of the police department on this one also clarifying that the story she gave French was the story she gave before she gave us so she gives officer French the story first she tells officer French I came down I checked on job and a I found the note I went back up she tells aren't I came down I I came down I found the note I checked on job today right
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
So the idea that a nine-year-old could do that to his sister? No, he's just traumatized. Now we know a little differently. The way he was acting lined up with his behavior before she died. He was known to be violent towards her before she died. They were known to antagonize one another before she died. She got all the attention. And he was the afterthought.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
He was the firstborn of that part of the family. He was the golden boy until JonBenet was born. I don't know. His behavior in those interviews comes across to me as sociopathic. Not autistic. Not ADD. Probably that too. But Yeah, it very much comes across as something's not right.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
And there is evidence that Burke may have, on a couple of occasions, smeared feces around JonBenet, like on a box of candy she had received as a present, which to me seems... pretty deliberate. That's not a normal thing to do. I will say this much.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
The fact that JonBenet had all of these bedwetting problems, the fact that her mother and her grandmother insisted she loved the pageant circuit, and yet everyone else who knew them, from what I can see, felt this was really weird, and JonBenet had, on a couple of occasions, said she didn't want to do it anymore.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
And then the fact that Burke had the issues he had, and that none of the older three children did, I think something wasn't right in that house. I do think Burke is probably a victim of something, the very least neglect. This strikes me as...
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
parental issue and granted given how john's other three kids turned out it strikes me as a patsy issue so um i mean one thing that i i think is relevant here is after the morning of i i can't believe it didn't occur to me earlier but after the morning of john had to back her up No matter what. Because if he didn't, he's going to prison too.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
So it didn't even necessarily have to be about Burke or John. I think it was. I think it's more likely that they were protecting Burke. But I think, you know, the fact that Patsy's friends were apparently like planning to stage an intervention over all of this pageant stuff. Really? Yeah. Well, that was in the CBS documentary, remember? Honestly, no. No, I didn't remember that part.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
Yeah, Judith Phillips mentioned it. But it's also in Thomas' book. I think it's in Kohler's book. Like, they thought that this was all getting a little weird with JonBenet. I mean, I want everybody in the audience to really think about JonBenet Ramsey for a second. What was going on here? Her whole life was pageantry. All of it. She knew nothing else.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
Aren't the one that then gets kind of presented as being the crazy one for the entire rest of the case. But anyway, here we go. So she finds the three pages at the bottom, right? What's this? I wonder. I turn around to look at three pieces of paper on a step near the bottom. I bend over. Must be a note from the cleaning lady, Linda, I think. Probably reminding me she needs to borrow $2,500.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
from the time she was four years old, from the time of her earliest memories, she was doing pageants. That was not how Patsy was. Patsy decided she wanted to do it at 13. Patsy got to the Miss America competition and didn't win. Externally, it's not uncommon for children of hard-driving parents to look really successful on the outside and to look like they're loving what they're doing.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
I think a great example of this recently would be Baby Gronk. Baby Gronk rizzed up Livvy Dunn, and now he hates his life. So... I can't believe I just said those words, but I... When children get into the performance circle, especially with child celebrities, I mean, how many child celebrities turned out normal? The majority don't. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
So, I mean, when you... And that's, I think, what we also need to be doing here, is thinking about this, you know... Even though she wasn't in Hollywood... Patsy treated her like she was in Hollywood.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
And I think we gotta stop thinking about this as, you know, oh, the perfect little suburban family, and start thinking about it more as what it was, which was Patsy living vicariously through her daughter. There is absolutely no way that a four-year-old could express that all they want to do for the rest of their life is pageantry, and you believe it.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
No, and especially when you factor in the fact that there are multiple people who say JonBenet did not want to do this. And that her grandmother and her mother were forcing her. I mean... It reeks to me of an abusive household. And I don't know, maybe Jon being a CEO and so busy with work didn't know... I wouldn't be shocked even in the slightest.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
You know, it's second marriage, young kids when you're not that young, younger wife. I... I wouldn't be shocked if he didn't know about something.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
It does happen. You look at it. John's first marriage ended because he cheated on the mother of his children with a secretary. What I understand. I Patsy at one point, I think claimed to not know about this, even though it happened like the year she met him. Um, and then he married, he marries her at like first sight basically. So I, yeah, I'm just,
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
I must leave a check on the kitchen counter before we leave. You come downstairs at 545 in the morning, and the very first thing you think of, keep in mind, Linda had not been in the house the previous evening. Linda had not been in the house between them getting home from the party and them going to sleep and waking up the next morning.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
Everything stinks, and it makes me angry that this happened 30 years ago instead of today, because today it would be solved. It wouldn't be a question who did this. As I said to you earlier, I think with this specific case, if the DNA can be explained as to why it doesn't match a Ramsey, that's it. It's over. That's the only thing.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
If you explain the DNA, there is literally no reason to believe this was an intruder. If you can't explain the DNA, things get complicated.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
Because I still wouldn't think it was an intruder that the Ramseys didn't know. And all of them were cleared. So...
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
How is Marshall Iwasa spelled?
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
Um... Lethbridge, Alberta, disappeared November 17th, 2019 after accessing his storage locker. His truck was found burned six days later on a rural logging road near Pemberton, British Columbia. Pemberton, British Columbia. Why does that sound familiar?
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
That might be where the MMIW panel met not long ago.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
Maybe. I might just be misunderstanding. But yeah, so Marshall Awase, investigation after discovery of his truck, they initiated a search, treating it as a missing persons investigation, then suspended it in December. All right. Determined the cause of the truck to be arson. Bank card showed no activity. No gas purchases throughout the entire drive. All right, let's see.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
Especially if he has a history of making credit card purchases for gasoline. Yeah. All right, let's see. I just want to find... Oh, yeah. It was a 14-hour drive away, and it was a 2009 GMC Sierra. That's three stops for gas.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
Hang on. That sounds like foul play to me. I'm going to look into it and I'm not going to find anything because Canada, but I will look into it. Um, that is right up our alley. Uh, happy to do it. Um, and probably soon because we're going to change up the way we do the JonBenet cases, the case videos. Uh, It's going to need more than three parts. Going to need more than four parts.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
Could need six. Could need 12. The base model.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
We stopped for gas at least twice driving to Kentucky. Yeah. In a 2022 Jeep Wrangler. Yep. And that... That got 20 on the highway.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
No, this is the staircase at the back of the house. This is the spiral staircase. The staircase that goes directly up to the bedroom. And again, that's going to be a confusing thing here because she doesn't specify staircases all that much. But yeah, so the spiral staircase is where the note's found, right?
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
yeah i mean no credit card purchases yeah i'll look into that one for sure yep um because you know if there's one in which camera am i on right now middle right if there's one thing i really love to do on this channel it is point out how bad the rcmp is at their job it's really become a calling card for us yeah it's kind of funny yeah
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
The FBI, like, again, the joke about Canada becoming the 51st state, the FBI would be an improvement. Yep. The FBI would be an improvement. I will give the FBI credit. They do do pretty well with kidnapping cases. Yep. Um... at least more recently, a certain... a certain McCuller fella back in the 70s did not get the treatment he should have.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
But, looking back on it, you know, after the conversation we had with Nick, I do think it was probably an accident.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
Yeah, so... Oh, well, it was totally that. They were like, ah, I mean, he's 19, it's the 70s, he's probably shacking up with some girl. You know?
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
So, but anyway, um... Part three comes out next Friday. Yep. This Friday, you're getting, what are they getting this Friday?
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
Ape Canyon. No, no, no, no, no. Not Ape Canyon. Has to do with Ape Canyon. Ape Canyon gets mentioned. Fair. It's a classic Mr. Ballin tale that we did some analysis on.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
You know, the question I would ask you who are watching right now is, do you know how to get to Bell's Canyon? And with that, yeah. If I got anything wrong, please comment it. I'm 100% serious, by the way. If I got something wrong in this video and you've got evidence of how I got it wrong, please tell me. I don't want to put John and Burke Ramsey in prison. I want to find out who did this.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
Right now, I think it was them. But if it wasn't them, I'd like to present the evidence. You know, I know right now it probably sounds a lot like, you know, I can't be swayed. I could be swayed. This book is definitely not helping. Shocker. But I am fully willing to change my mind if the evidence is presented.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
So if you have something that proves something I said tonight was wrong, please share it with me in the comments. Probably the most direct thing you could do is post it to our Reddit. r slash the lore lodge or in our discord which is bit.ly slash join the lodge if you pop it into the tip line there is a JonBenet Ramsey red nice yeah
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
No, it makes sense if she was checking on JonBenet first. It doesn't make sense if she wasn't checking on JonBenet first. Although, as it turns out, because according to JonAndrew, she for some reason takes the staircase most frequently. According to JonAndrew. So, this presents dual issues. If that is the staircase she takes frequently...
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
Okay. Well, everybody, thank you so much for being here. To all who donated, thank you very much. Your donations help keep the show moving. More than you know. Yeah. And, you know, with the last few episodes being as high performing as they have been, might actually help us get closer to hiring that editor. I could not be more excited. I'm sure. All right. Well, thank you very much, everybody.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
I'm hoping that we can get to the bottom of this, or at the very least, we can create the most comprehensive, factually accurate, and least misleading documentary on JonBenet Ramsey ever made.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
Yeah. Well, we won't see them. They'll see us.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
You'll see us on Friday and we'll see you on Monday. Bye, guys.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
Then whoever put the note there had to know that was the staircase she takes most frequently, like had to know she would go down that staircase at some point that night.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
Not necessarily easy, but it's possible. Sebastian Rogers, again, as I've said, the Sheriff's Department gave me a weird answer when I asked if Chris Proudfoot had friends in the Sheriff's Department, and he told me he's not friends with the Sheriff. That wasn't the question I asked. I sent a follow up email and it was never answered.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
Hoffman sued them. This is another thing I think is really funny. I keep seeing people on Reddit specifically, and I'm not trying to disparage these people. They don't do this for a living. So these are people who, and in many cases, one of them even watches this show, and she's been very polite, and I'm grateful for that.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
A lot of what I've been doing on Reddit is kind of like presenting the one side, seeing what the other side will say, and I'm grateful for how polite everybody has been over there, which is odd for Reddit. It's weird that you find people on Reddit and they're nice.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
But one of the girls I've been talking to, I think it's a girl, she said that she watches the show and she was actually disappointed that we were using Thomas and Kohler. And one of the things that I've seen coming up over and over again is, well, Thomas was sued. Kohler was sued, like for the CBS thing. Thomas was sued for his book. Okay, well, so were the Ramseys.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
Nobody ever actually went to court. They were all settled. Now, if you tell me there was a defamation suit, they went to court and it was adjudicated that this was defamation. I'm a little bit more willing to believe it.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
I think that the Ramsey strategy, I haven't looked too deeply into it, but from what I can tell, the Ramsey strategy with the Thomas case was probably to, you know, get him to a point where it was too expensive to continue the lawsuit, which is typically what people or companies who have more money do when they're suing people or companies who have less money.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
If you can burn the cash and win the suit by doing so, they will try to do it. Um, So anyway, moving along here a little bit, I do also think it's interesting. It was $2,000. It was not $2,500. It was $2,000 to be paid back in $200 installments deducted from her paycheck over the next like 10 weeks or something.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
I will point out, I kind of get on the one hand why you might say, all right, well, I'll give you the loan, you know, because you don't want your staff seeking handouts and all that. I get it. But at the same time, you can't give her $2,000. You can't say here's a Christmas bonus? Give it to her as a Christmas bonus, you selfish bitch.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
You could do this in a way that it does not need to be a handout, you know? Also, from what I understand, from what Linda Hoffman-Pugh said, it sounds like she actually got the loan. Like, that had already happened. From how it sounds with Linda Hoffman-Pugh. I might be wrong about that. I'm still working through a lot of the details.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
If you guys are wondering why what was supposed to be two videos is now a multi-part project with live shows where we're going over this, part of this is the research process for me, by the way. Sitting here talking it out, this is part of my research process, like HouseMD. We gotta have Lodge... Something.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
And then with the boy in the box, you know, with that one, it was so long ago and this baby was illegally adopted. He was purchased. You have fingerprinting, but literally nothing else. You know, at that time in history, it was a lot easier to get away with. But where it where it starts to come out is the stories from the family. It was Martha and the boy in the box's case.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
I didn't just call you. I actually walked over to your house and threw this book in your hands.
The Lore Lads
The Lies Behind "The Death of Innocence" | Podcast Episode 151
I needed him to physically read the book, and it was funny because the specific part I had him read, he was like... kind of not understanding why it was relevant. And then he flipped the book over and he was like, Oh yeah. Cause I thought he was reading Thomas's book. Yeah, exactly. So yeah. I mean, just making our way through this though, you know, it,
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Did you ever watch any of Euphoria?
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
I think the issue here is you haven't really seen her acting range.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Yeah, you really haven't seen her acting range at all.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Wow. People getting their facts wrong, leading to a game of telephone that then leads to like extreme political division. Yep. That doesn't sound familiar at all.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
No, no, she does that for the paycheck. Euphoria, Dune, stuff like that. She is very talented.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Yeah, I haven't seen the Bob Dylan movie yet, but I do... The more I see of his stuff, the more I like it.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Uh... I already did Zork. Uh... Chimp with a hand grenade from 199 says, Blame the crucifixion on Marks. I don't think you can go Marx backwards.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
We can blame the Holocaust on Nietzsche.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The H-man was a big follower.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Well, Nietzsche was extremely anti-Semitic.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
But like borderline militantly. Oh, good.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
And he was the one who came up with Ubermensch. And the Aryan state. Oh. Yeah, yeah. He's really responsible for what happened to Germany in the 30s and 40s.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Freedom's pretty cool, guys. We should be free. Nietzsche didn't do anything besides words, but his words certainly motivated some people.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Oh, I was thinking about this recently. I feel like property taxes are inherently inhumane. Buddy, wait till you hear about all taxes. No, I know. No, but specifically property taxes because it's taxation for living. Oh, yeah.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
That'd be great. Yeah. Because that's the thing. It really is, if I own it, why am I paying taxes? Yep. That's not ownership.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Yeah. The whole idea, I understand that the idea of taxing property is to prevent people from buying like 16 million acres and then holding onto it forever. That's not the intention.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
That says property taxes are unconstitutional?
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
There's got to be a way to do it. There's got to be a way to find it.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
You know what I learned recently? What? There was a great video of Piers Morgan where Dave Rubin and this guy named Gary Stevenson were on.
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And Gary Stevenson was apparently a trader for Citibank. He grew up in a really poor area of the UK. Mm-hmm. Uh, studied really hard, worked really hard, uh, started trading at Citibank and became their top trader. Uh, and one of the top traders in the world for like 14 years. Okay.
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And he said, um, in a book that he wrote and I'll see, he's got his own YouTube channel as well now that the only reason he made money is because the only thing he ever bet on, on the stock market was that conditions for the working in middle class were going to get worse. And he was right every time. And that's how he became the highest paid trader at Citibank. That's insane.
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And his whole point was, yeah, the whole reason things are going bad is because you keep trying to propose cutting regulations and cutting taxes for wealthy when this is not like how the economy grows. And Piers was like, all right, well, can you point to one time in history where that happened? Like where what you're proposing worked? And he was like, yes, the 1950s and 60s.
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Do you know what the top tax bracket was in the 1950s and 60s?
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The way they went around it was to reinvest in their businesses. In some cases, yeah. Yeah, and because it was the only way to not pay it.
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But the reason why you saw so much prosperity at that time was A, it was the introduction of credit lines, and B, because in order to not get taxed on that money... They then reinvested it in the wages for their employees, funding R&D departments, all these different things.
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And the taxation that happened from people buying during consumerism because they were being paid enough to buy things funded some of the mega projects like the highway system and all this fun stuff. And Gary's whole point was the reason for the taxation brackets like that.
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was to prevent what's happening now, which is excessive asset accumulation by the mega-rich, because the top tax brackets then were essentially like the multi-multi-millionaires now. And the problem is that what we're seeing in the housing market around here, they're able to, through corporations and their own money, buy cash for houses that working and middle-class people can't afford. Mm-hmm.
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No, that's about the least trustworthy source you could have.
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And they're stockpiling assets to avoid taxation and also to increase their monetary value through assets in interest baiting, essentially.
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No, no, no. I'm 100%, but I'm also saying like, Yeah, I see where you're coming from.
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Plus, the thing is, back then there were 24 tax brackets.
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Everything's happening. Everything, everywhere, all at once.
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And I'm like, can we not do another world war? Look, I get that we're approaching a point where we have mutually assured destruction again. Can we not do another world war? I don't really feel like getting sent overseas.
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This is, this is nice. I like this.
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I will say, I don't love the fact that we are actively pissing off the majority of our allies right now.
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Well, because we shouldn't have to fight all their battles for them, but... I agree, but getting to the point where they're doing it because they're pissed at us? Yeah, anyway. This isn't a modern politics channel. If you want that, go to Stephen Bell's channel. Yeah. Um...
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uh oh just jumped oh no there's no way to jump that much we're gonna find out what no yeah it did i know darth kk for five dollars says this might be better to ask in weird bible but if you guys watch the show house of david on prime and if so what are your thoughts i haven't i have not yet i probably will but i have not had a chance
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Well, that, but also there was a... Wasn't there, like, another large revolution attempt in 1986? I have no idea. Yeah, I don't know.
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Anyway. They won't do it in the Pacific because it affects them. This is what happens when we get tired. We start talking about politics. Which is a weird... I don't know. Yeah, anyway. Um... Yes, we haven't seen House of David. No. We'll take a look at it. White Trash Panda for $5 says, get out of jury duty.
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Answer every question by shouting, my favorite color is clear and okay lady when responding to a male.
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Yeah. We're okay, sir. Talking to women. That'll get you punched.
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All things Buffalo. To anyone. They probably hold me in contempt for that. walking it's like state your name i might get shot by the bailiff at least you wouldn't have to jury duty i wouldn't be able to do anything that's fair All Things Buffalo Sabres for Canadian $10 says, I'm RCMP and work in a community in northern Canada where there is a population of 1,500 people.
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We had four murders last year. It's me and two other officers at my post, and we have six vacancies. We can only do so much.
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Some of your... I wouldn't say comrades, I wouldn't say constituents. What's the word I'm looking for? Coworkers? Yeah, some of your colleagues, that's it. Some of your colleagues, I don't think, are putting in as much goodwill and effort as you are.
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Yeah. Make sure that you credit this show as being the auditors of the RCMP.
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I'm also realizing, I think maybe one part... I hadn't thought about this before. A lot of these Super Chats are Canadian money. What if, because so much of our stuff is covering Canada, YouTube's just not pushing it to American viewers as much anymore?
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And ask, hey, how many cases have you not solved today? I am at seven. Eh?
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No, that's like false advertising.
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like we can't argue with you there later uh all things buffalo sabers said again um or another thing saying uh it's sad that this is my first day off in 17 days saskatchewan and manitoba rcmp are cooked uh i can't speak as much for alberta and bc honestly i'm amazed you're the first rcmp officer to be watching us yeah we're glad to have you here yeah
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Yeah. Uh... A7XMShadows19109 says, I am OSHA certified. You can read that. Not allowed, just... Bailiff!
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uh sometimes it does just lapse but anyway four months ago john bonnet maybe yeah yeah uh alex corp for 199 says mattis show thorn bussy the chart from stream please oh is this the chart is this the gay yeah i'll pull it up i'm vaguely offended i'm not on it yeah you were left off well most people who only watch the friday stuff don't know i exist that's fair so i don't know where uh there it is yeah
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yeah Buffalo Sabres back at it again saying the problem is the organization guys on the ground are not the issue it's the hierarchy too many want to be the guy in charge making the decision or on the other hand lack of decisions yeah yeah makes sense sounds about right this is smaller than I remember that's a different chart that's a chart they made oh yeah the one that Hex made is extensive oh wait hang on what
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I find it interesting that Brandon is sub-top.
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And, of course, Wendigan is true neutral. Oh, yeah. Ugh. Ugh. Abigail Stewart for $2 says, protesting not a cult makes it more culty. Yeah. I keep telling him this. He won't listen. It's not a cult.
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Yes, you have. When? On history. No, on drunk folklore.
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Are we a cult? Probably. By the technical term of it, historically. I guess so, yeah. We're cult leaders. Would you like to become a cult leader? Since the death of God, there's been a vacancy in that position.
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Might there also be an element similar to the Boulder police and DA and mayor in the 90s where they just want to save face and keep the numbers of bad incidents happening happening at a low level?
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The real William something, I can't read it because your thing just came in and says, it's a cult. It's not a cult.
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he just said multiple times Aiden amazing uh Gom said for $5.69 honestly Aiden's America can do no wrong mentality is troubling I don't have an America can do no wrong mentality though I mean how can the not cult take over the country if the current system is not bad huh I'm struggling with that one He's saying you have to recognize the bad in order for our not cult to take over. Well, yeah.
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Okay. Burton Moran has been a member for nine months. Woo! That's a whole baby. I see... Every time I log into Discord, I see that you have messaged me. I have not responded yet because I know if I open it, I'm going to get distracted by something and not respond properly. I'm in the same boat with all of my messages. And if the notifications are gone, I'll forget that they ever showed up.
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So I see you. I will get to you soon.
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You know that Michael Keaton made a movie about that. He did? Yeah, it was called Multiplicity.
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He made a clone of himself to be able to relax more and have the clone do more things. Then the clone made a clone. And then the clone's clone made a clone.
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It's a good movie. It's like classic comedy, Michael. They just couldn't handle the Neutron style.
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Good stuff. T Randall photo for $2 says, did you check around back? Please tell me you got the pics. Yes, we did. They did nominal. Thank you so much for sending those over. Those are amazing. We just need to figure out a place to put them.
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Also, whoever was the first person to send us the wedding invite. We don't know where it ended up. Sorry. Did get shifted around. Please send us a copy via discord. Yes, please.
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We're three and a half hours in. I'm so tired. No, so am I. Oh my god, three and a half hours. This is horrific. Guys, stop super chatting. We appreciate it so much, but we are sweeby. FarmSimNation is a new member. TheRealWilliamWhite is a member for 10 months. Kell and I talked about the Genghis Khan thing earlier. GavinMig1 for $2 says, everyone in this chat lost the game. How dare you?
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Kell in the official data for 223 said they were also filming in radioactive fallout. What? Huh?
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in what are we talking about here probably for the searchers because they were filming in nevada and utah and such oh did john wayne die of cancer yeah yeah that makes about that makes sense yep well there we go there's that uh the military industrial complex killed john wayne military industrial complex gober Chip with a hand grenade for $1.99 says, Justin Trudeau moment? Oh, God.
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Oh, yeah, for Alec Guinness. Yeah. What a shame. Zork, back at it again, destroying for a Canadian $5.56. And just because I want to hear you laugh again, put on your tinfoil hat for the source, New Zealand skeletons in the closet.
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Also, yeah, Kellen, I agree. Streaming has become cable with extra steps and by physical media, it's better sound and resolution due to not needing the internet connection. Agreed. I'm going to start buying a lot more Blu-rays. I'm actually considering starting a film review channel slash just like film commentary channel as an excuse to buy tax deductible physical media.
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Would you guys watch me talk about movies? Wouldn't really be my face. But, yeah, I'm thinking about it. I already bought the Blu-ray Ripper for utilizing for doing that ages ago because this is a thought I've had for a while, but I don't know.
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Sweet. I will heavily consider doing it. In Discord, let me know what movies you would want me to talk about. I definitely want to do Jaws, Master and Commander, Jaws 2 in particular, because I think there was a missed opportunity there.
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There's a few others that are on my short list, but I will need recommendations because a large portion of creativity in my brain is taken up by doing the job that we already do. So...
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Abigail Stewart said, for $2, FYI, Creepcast is Papa Meat and Wendigoon. Yes. Real quick, Tombstone, that film doesn't get enough recognition?
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I was going to say, it's considered one of the greatest Westerns of all time.
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There are times where people do just get cold and then get eaten. Yeah. But there are also these weird times where it almost certainly was not that.
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uh it was a saying at the time i think it had to do with huck finn maybe i don't know he looked baller while he said it yeah also like like i think one of my favorite scenes from that movie is him flipping around the cup yeah yeah it's so good and at that point he's like i don't know darling should i hate him and then he and he says in vino veritas yeah he said the latin he's like oh he's educated as well that's it i do hate him
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It's such a good movie. It's so good. Oh, God. I would have loved to have seen a James Dean movie starring Val Kilmer as James Dean.
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There was a James Franco one. I haven't seen it. Me neither. But, yeah. Anyway, Chip with a Hand Grenade for $4.99 says, Show Thornbussy the Lore Lodge and Friends YouTuber. Oh, yeah. We have. Yep. Wizards Workshop for $10 says, Are either of you gentlemen into other fantasy like Brandon Sanderson and his Cosmere Universe? Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time, Patrick Rothfuss...
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Uh, so Sergeant Buck commented, I'm your huckle bearer. Paul bearers used to wear huckleberry blossoms on their lapels. Oh, That makes sense now. Yeah. Also, you're no Daisy. Yeah. Apparently that was, I don't know the origin, but that was also of the time. Gotcha. Daisy had like a negative connotation. I don't know what it's from. Sergeant Buck, if you know, that'd be amazing. Yeah.
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Yes. And then Miss Mori for $2 says, Chat has decided to steal the ADD meds more often. Oh, no. Oh, no. If you guys like these streams... Yeah. This is what Lore Lounge was. The last hour and a half of this is what Lore Lounge was. So we could bring this back.
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I have had such a bad headache for the last few hours. I'm so tired. Like, my brain is pounding right now.
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I feel like that would increase the pounding.
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For context, for people who haven't seen Bart Schleyer's video, who was he?
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Sergeant Buck says, striking out on your daisy. It's okay. I appreciate the effort. All right. Well, that's it all.
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And I just put together the whole thing today.
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Yeah, I did edit one today because, you know, jury duty. Right. Sitting right about 46 minutes on my own. Nice.
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And for context, everybody, the grizzly bears on Kodiak Island of Alaska are the largest grizzly bears on the planet.
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I also don't want it to fly under the radar too much. When he said tagging Siberian tigers, it means literally like going into the Siberian wilderness to find tigers to then tag and track their positions.
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Yeah, just essentially like explaining why it was such an unusual circumstance for him to not have been there and for... Right, because we're talking about Unsolvable. Yes.
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I think it's partially that also, cause like there is the argument of, well, for an ongoing investigation, it may be bad for us to release certain elements of the information, yada, yada, yada. But at the same time, like if you're, if you're five, 10 years down the line on a case, let alone longer. Yeah. And it is essentially cold.
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There may be some marginal benefit of keeping everything secretive to yourself just in case something comes along. But I feel like at that point, it may be beneficial to start spreading the information around to allow people who have a little more free time to get a crack at it.
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Now, granted, that might take some of your thunder away, but at the same time, it might bring closure to the families and provide a solution immediately. to essentially the entire reason that law enforcement and investigative practices exist.
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You know what else was a great documentary series that came out not too long ago that also is involving a defendant with the name O? The O.J. Simpson one? Surprisingly very informative, very interesting. Didn't know that he actually was convicted in the civil suit afterward. Also didn't know that he did in fact confess to his agent. He did? Oh, yeah.
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His agent in the documentary, spoiler warning, was like, yeah, after the criminal trial, I was sitting alone with OJ next to the pool, and we were just talking, and it was really awkward, and... OJ asked, like, whether or not he thought he did it. And the agent was like, I've represented this guy for, like, 20 or 30 years. Do I, like, fake it? Or do I just say what I think?
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Oh, see, I figured that you saying she called her brother in prison was essentially under the umbrella of she called the prison for her brother.
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And he said he was like, honestly, OJ, I thought you were guilty the whole time. And OJ looked at him and apparently said, if she hadn't opened the door with a knife, she'd still be alive.
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Considering I'm generally anti-establishment, it's not against the grain for me.
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Yeah, no, he was an absolute narcissist. He was incapable of putting himself in any form of bad light. They really kind of emphasized that in the documentary, that especially with the agent and other people who knew him well, that he was entirely focused on his image to the public. That was it.
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he didn't exist outside of everyone else's perception of him. And the reason he became like a degenerate playboy and whatnot after the trial is because his perception had officially been ruined. He couldn't do a career anymore. And so he was just weirdly trying to like live out his glory days. And the whole reason he got arrested and went to prison was because he was taking back his,
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memorabilia that was like owned by someone else at that point and being sold on market of like signed things of his and whatever. And he was like borderline delusional that it still belonged to him and that he was retrieving stolen property. And it was kind of ironic that it was all stuff of his that was like of his golden era. He was just trying to cling to who he used to be. Right.
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But yeah, at least he got 30 years for that because it was like borderline armed robbery. Yeah. Weird, weird scenario. He's dead now.
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This would be like if Saquon Barkley or like Tom Brady murdered his wife.
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That's the thing is because like part of the thing that I didn't even realize until watching the documentary.
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Yeah, is he was like becoming a movie star. Like he was like in a lot of films. He was in commercials all over the place. Like he was more than just a football player at that point. He had become like a B or A list celebrity.
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I was going to ask if you had seen that, yeah. Jail. Like... All I've seen are images.
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Other than the new character design, what's so bad about it? The new character design?
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I want to know how much money and residuals Smash Mouth got from All-Star because of Shrek. It's got to be insane.
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That whole album, what was it called? I remember the front of the album.
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Oh, I think it might have been like Astro Lounge. Yeah. Yeah.
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Such a wild time overall. My buddy Brian sent me a promotional spot for Supernatural from back then. Oh, God. Dude, it's hilarious. Oh, I'm sure. It looks like a Drake and Josh promotional spot on Nickelodeon. The vibe just is not even remotely for the show.
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That's fair. Yeah, that's fair. It is funny that I was watching an episode recently. I think it was literally last night when we were finishing doing some unpacking stuff where I noticed because of the way they used to do the studio lighting, because the way for those of you who are not familiar, House was made at a time where each season had 23 episodes a season.
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That was indeed. And what they used to do in those shows is the production process was much more streamlined. They didn't shoot it like a movie. Like, shooting a television show actually had a different production process. I mean, it's still technically different. It's gotten more movie-fied in the streaming era. That's the thing, yeah.
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Shows now look a lot more like movies than they do television used to. Um... But one of the things they used to do is they used to focus a lot more on sets. You're seeing a lot more location shooting and things like that nowadays. But back then on sets, especially large sets like House had, a lot of the lighting was overhead studio lights.
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And when you're working on a big set with a lot of different glass panels like they have on house and you need lighting fast, efficiently, and ways that are not going to interrupt the flow of the actor's performances, there's a really interesting technique that they do, which is really fun to watch when you notice it.
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If you ever see anybody sitting at a desk on that show and there's paper in front of them, you're going to notice that paper's really bright. Yeah. Because they're shooting a light from directly above it down on the paper to use as a bounce to illuminate the actors from below.
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Because it's the only way they can get a light source close enough that it's not going to require readjustment of lights between shots. And it's not going to require like a bunch of different extra steps. You can just kind of like flow through it. But it's amazing how many times where he walks into Cuddy's office and the paper beneath her is shining. And in his office, stuff like that.
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But yeah, it's really interesting to see how production of television and movies have changed over the course of time. Sorry, I realize I just nerded out there.
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That's great advice, actually. Yeah. Really quickly, before we go back into Canada, specifically, I think transitioning to Nahanni. I'm glad you figured where I was going there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a reason this works. Talking about shows that have very clearly aged, that are only about 20 years old. Have you ever watched Boston Legal? No.
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So imagine house, but in a law firm instead of a hospital. Okay. And there is way, like, you know how inappropriate house is. Yeah. Yeah. Multiply that by about 10. Oh, wow. And that is, oh yeah, that's William Shatner.
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It is hilarious. It is shocking just how much it could not have been made today.
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That was my favorite bit, is the whole episode they're teasing that, and then Wilson's just like, you're not, you're an ass.
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Lou Gehrig's disease has, like, an actual technical term.
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And especially when it's in a valley with a lot of headless people. Yes. That has no explanation.
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They would have to have markedly more cerebral capability than we'd given them credit for for a long time.
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Either that or you would have had to have had a multi-century gas leak. And which of those seems more likely?
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Also, there's too many towns in America where economic opportunity has almost entirely left where the people have remained.
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That would be a great place to shoot an apocalyptic film.
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You know what's so interesting, though? I think that music will persist much longer than music that is now 100 years old.
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That's the thing, the most heartfelt music from back then were all love songs.
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The original African-American community that started that really doesn't get the recognition that it deserves.
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Except for Keith Richards. He consistently gives them the recognition they deserve, which is great.
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Don't tell anybody. Just figure it out and publish it. Nah.
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No, but there is some fun in being the one to break it. There is. Oh, definitely. The inner journalist in me is coming out currently because I'm recognizing there are some great stories that could be told.
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Like... You just gotta wonder what the underlying cause for that is.
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They may have presumed that it was going to be the same or worse.
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I guess for the majority of the time it's been covered by most historians, the lack of any real consistent or growing colony made it less desirable to cover.
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I think it's a great mystery to investigate.
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Yeah, and it also outpaced everything else that came after it prior to the Europeans coming and actually colonizing North America.
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Do we know what that structure was like on a cultural or societal governmental level at all?
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You take particular interest in inserting the woo-woo elements of that into videos that otherwise, arguably, don't need it in there.
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Yeah, either that or you would have to redefine when the medieval period actually ended.
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We should put the Welsh flag up in here somewhere.
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We should honestly just make the next episode, like the first one that we record, just about your guys' time.
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I'll see you guys. Join the Patreon, not just for Lore Lodge, but History Unhinged. And if you haven't watched History Unhinged yet, it's a new channel that we've started with Stephen Bell from History of Everything. Yeah, we've got three episodes out right now. The fourth one comes out not this Saturday, but next. It's a bi-weekly. It's a bi-weekly.
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Don't know if we're going to keep with that schedule, but if we don't,
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Oh, we were talking about how wrestlers and people would fight and they would douse themselves with either butter or oil, specifically oil for the Greeks. Yeah. And so I said, oh, so Diddy was just Greek.
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Yeah, there are, in fact, unhinged comments. My entire purpose on the podcast is to bait the unhinged comments or make them myself.
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I did recently see an interesting video on whether or not Marx was woke. No, sorry, that was Nietzsche. That was whether or not Nietzsche was woke. What? The whole point of the video is that it's a stupid argument to make, but it is a really funny video.
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Yeah. Marcus Aurelius, was he woke? Marcus Aurelius was based. He was based as hell. Marcus Aurelius was not woke. No.
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She was... She was the quintessential, probably the first real girl boss.
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He'll be like, here's the thing. He will either like buffer or he will be. So if you think about what he did with it, like he will he will either buffer for 15 seconds and be annoyed that we asked the question or have an answer immediately.
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Actually, guys, quick question. What are we doing wrong? If you watch our channel for specific reasons, let us know what they are. If you don't watch certain videos of ours, let us know why not. We're just essentially trying to figure out what exactly you guys want to see. Every three months, I think I've figured it out, and then it changes. Yeah, because I think that... January was great for us.
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No, and things have been weird ever since then. I think it was mainly that. I agree, I think that was definitely part of it, but just in case it's also just, like, you guys not wanting to see certain things, because I did see some comments on some of the videos, like, like, one in particular was like, if this wasn't you guys, I wouldn't have watched it. And it's like, interesting, why?
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So... So I will say... Okay, so we're getting some good feedback. So Ozzy Walker's saying, I'm getting tired of the missing persons cases. I feel like we haven't done many of them recently. Fair. Boosh Bear is saying, I watch every video, but I find the true crime stuff more boring. Okay. Catfisher is saying, I like the sound of Aiden's voice. Well, thank you.
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Matthew Martinez says, your videos are getting too wordy. I think that may be more there. They, this is a conversation we've had ongoing as whether or not we're getting too academic. And part of it is like, we like that because the integrity is interesting and it's, you know, it's, it fits how you learned the right in college. Um, maybe that's a poll we could put up. I don't know.
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We'll figure it out. I don't know. Um, uh, I'm trying to make the more narrative currently Philly experiment was true. Um, Yeah, maybe it's kind of safe to say that people want cryptid or criminal missing forest related topics. But that's the thing, is you would think that's a given.
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Perfect example. Strike Delic says, I watch for the missing persons cases, but I think I'm in the minority. I like watching you pull apart the investigation facts and debunk things. So this is leading me to believe my theory is accurate, is that we have four audiences from our channel. Yeah.
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Not gonna lie, the left-handed bit kind of really threw me for a loop about where that came from.
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Hilarious, which no, that's good for us to know because it helps us understand like if a video does a certain level, whether or not it's actually tanking. Yeah.
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It is because like somebody just said, no, please be as academic as you can. It's why I watch you. The history and the mystery. Ignore all previous feedback. I love everything you do. History is better. More cryptids. I miss the history stuff. I like wordy one hour plus videos. I came for the true crime and stayed for the legends. Love true crime, weird stuff, history oddities, bring it on.
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To be fair, this is an interesting subgroup because we consider the live show fans the diehards. So only the diehards are here. Yeah. So the casuals...
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I think it's slightly to do with the scripts. I think a large part of it's going to be the thumbnail and title and stuff like that.
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Are you guys going to get mad if we get a little bit more clickbaity? Because we're kind of getting to that point here. Not like excessive weird arrows and circles.
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Yeah, just more like slight sensational, slight sensationalization of the advertising element of the video with the content remaining mostly the same.
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I don't think like generally that's a bad thing. The reason he's bringing this up because I've like suggested maybe we need to make it more story based. Yeah. And I've had a couple of people like, you know, give me questions or thoughts on whether or not that was a thing that we were thinking about. But the problem is I'm not totally confident that's true.
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Because we're in a very weird niche where it could go full academic or it could go full story time or it could be a weird combo.
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What you got? So I was just looking at some of the replies and they're generally mixed, but everybody is overall very supportive about essentially just like whatever you guys need to do. OK, we're here for it. I appreciate it.
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Patreon would help with that a lot. Yes. Even just a dollar a month. Less than you would get a coffee for or a beer, depending on what your vices are. Yeah. I mean, you don't have to, obviously, but it's one of those deals where the more people sign up for the Patreon, the more freedom we have to cover the things that we really want to cover. Yeah. Like JonBenet. Mm-hmm.
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But anyway, so Gom, who has been a member for 19 months. Gom, you are a real one, dude. Very real one. Says, just a heads up, Wendigo's Red Thread podcast needs a third host now. Why don't you give him a call tonight? Get your Wendushion.
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I don't know, I still like that that's what we do. I think that's one of our strengths.
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Yep. Tyler Dalrymple for $7.62. Love the specificity. Thank you. Says any system where cops don't have to provide even basic info to the public about investigations promotes half-assed corrupt policing.
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Old of you to assume that internet critics know what they're talking about.
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I think there are some states you can do that as well. Really?
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I'm going to tell you right now, I'm on a Bible podcast. Yeah. I don't know the difference between Sam Mile and Sam Yaza. And that's why you're the color commentary guy. Exactly. And that's why I help ask questions to provide context for the audience. But specifically, like I went to Christian schools, so I can almost guarantee that they have no idea what they're talking about. Yeah.
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I was going to say, I love that I knew who you were talking about, even though that was not something that I was previously aware of.
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The chronicles of our involvement with this case are just... They're never-ending entertainment, that's for sure.
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I think that's the important caveat there.
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belly flop. Mm-hmm. Yep. Gom says something heinous for $5 and then demands a signed calendar or else he'll use cannabis.
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I was going to say, once the headlights go on regular mode. Yeah.
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Yeah, it got warm for like two days and then went back down to the 20s.
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Nice. TheSkyKing5 for Canadian $20 says, to answer the question in the show title, what I said, Canadian. Oh, oh, oh. I couldn't... All I heard was caw.
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Yeah. To answer the question in the show title, eh, it's a Monday. Also... If you want to try Berserk with less initial psychic damage, then either the Golden Age movies or the 90s anime is a decent place to do so. That might be doable.
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Do you still read it right to left? Or left to right, I mean? I don't know how to answer this question. Because, like, most books start on the right page.
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Why? I don't know! Do I look Japanese to you? Somebody explain that to me in the comments, please. Kellen has been a member for 10 months. Oh, my God. He's been here a lot longer than that. Yeah. Thanks for the 10-month membership, though.
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Thank you for stopping by on Friday as well. I don't know if you saw, but we decided to do an impromptu Captain Cat after your stream on Friday. The house was chaos. I had left the webcam here. None of the Xbox controllers had batteries that functioned. So we decided to just, without our faces, have Kat try World of Warships. Oh, no. We found a game she likes. Oh, really? She was...
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doing phenomenally for some random reason. Uh, she picked a tier one, uh, ship with, uh, captain Santiago. Okay. She was loving it. It was a Spanish ship and like every game she played, she was like top of the leaderboards. That's wild. Yeah. It was nuts.
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This is sounding like a combination of just cause and what is it like left for dead or? Yeah. Yeah. Uh, miss Maury for $2 says as a left-handed goblin, I resent this. Uh, the white trash panther from $5 says I got called for jury duty a few months ago, despite being convicted felon, basically laughed at them because I knew I wasn't eligible. Interesting.
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but I get it. I found out that I was covered by us health that morning because, uh, I was dealing with insurance issues as well. And that morning I saw a headline of like, Oh, he like, you know, shot the CEO or whatever. And then I logged online to like, you know, update some information in my insurance. And I looked up in the top left corner and I was like, Oh, well, yep.
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I guess there's a change at this company. Yep. Love it. What a wild time we live in. Gom for 569, love the specificity, says, do you remember your advice to get out of jury duty? Something, something, be incredibly racist. Or you could preach the W word to the homeless men. Huh?
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Chip with a hand grenade. I love the reference you just made. This is democracy manifest. Oh, do you know that video? No. A succulent Chinese meal. Oh, you gotta watch. It's so good. Oh, this guy's great. It's, it's, I can't remember his name. Show them a Spotify playlist that is entirely rucka rucka ollie. No, no, no. We'll show them Emotional Car Crash.
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I'm going to wear a shirt for pants and pants for a shirt. Wear just the surcoat.
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i'm all in uh kill any official data for ten dollars thank you very much says jury duty is the most notable noble of public service that a citizen can do i've never been able to fulfill that service because of other commitments to the federal government also don't trust a police yeah i see i need him to do the honorable thing of editing the videos i'm sorry but that's more important than justice
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Unless you guys are hiring an editor for the time that I'm away. I think he did it.
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Incredible. Gosh darn it, which is a great name.
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No, I can just be like, I don't want to be here. Wear a Chiefs jersey. Oh my God. No, that'll get me shot in Westchester. Are you kidding me? Yeah, true. Anyway, gosh darn it. Fantastic name. Canadian $5 says, remember Homer Simpson has already solved the jury duty dilemma for you. Quote, the trick is to say you're prejudiced against all races. Good luck. Yeah, it's a good one. Yeah, fair enough.
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Enthi Gavier for a Canadian $10 says, Speaking of Canada, may I suggest the Mad Trapper of Rat River for future video? Super interesting up the channel's alley, and I'd much rather think about that instead of my country's current state.
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Yeah, that's nuts. 16 gauge. What a pull. That is crazy. That had good taste in brands, though. Fair. We have another request from Ella for $9.99 saying, Hi, Aiden, would you be willing to cover the Jackson Whites of the Ramapo Spur of the Appalachian Mountains? Local legend claims that they are a group of inbred albino feral people in New Jersey.
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And then next is for 999. It says, hey guys, glad to see you guys live. Keep up the good work. Thank you very much. Huh? He's deep in investigative mode right now.
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Basically. A7XMShadows19 for $9.99 says, I'm happy you guys give me something to listen to when I'm driving around on a forklift Monday and Friday nights. Really helps with the boredom.
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Otherwise, someone's going to get in trouble. It's not good.
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I don't know. I've been watching too much Klax McBee. What?
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There's no way you haven't seen his videos. No.
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He's huge on TikTok right now. And he's a vet. He's a veteran. And he makes the most unhinged videos of all time.
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Is there anybody here? Is there anybody who knows what I'm talking about? So I feel as though I'm not having a psychotic break.
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Just go to TikTok and do C-L-A-X-M-C-B.
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Hang on, hang on. You gotta watch one of the Mr. Belding videos.
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Real quick, do a Mr. Belding one, and then we'll move on. I'll watch the Mr. Belding one after the show. Because that's one of his biggest characters. And it's, yeah, the dude... Just the comments half the time are just this. That felt very like 2008 YouTube. Oh yeah, no. And people are loving the amount of comments under his videos that are like, he does these with his son sometimes.
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Like this man has a wife and children. This man is a United States veteran.
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What a name. Says, much love from Sudbury, Ontario, Canada. Oh, I know a fella up in Sudbury. Great guy. Great guy. Sudbury Blueberry Bulldog. Sudbury Blueberry Bulldogs. There we go. Good job. We did it. We did it. Anyway, Weirdo E.V., You guys are rocking the names tonight. Please look up the Canadian case of Cindy James. That one I have heard.
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Rob Dogman for $2 asking, how can I become a research assistant?
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Also, even just from like a more casual perspective in a non-criminal case scenario, imagine being in a position where you grew up in an area, your family has grown up in that area, your ancestors have. Another group of people comes in, takes over, and then is just adamantly inquisitive in a borderline, sometimes overtly antagonistic way about you, your culture, your people. Yeah.
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Well, it would take 25 years for them to get to the point you're at.
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I'd love to be a good upstanding member of society, but I need you.
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No, it'd just be a little you. I'm just going to have one of those in a few years, so... But it would be, like... I know. Imagine if you had to care for you at 10. That would be weird. I think that's the weird part about cloning and why they outlawed it, is because it starts to mess with your idea of identity and self.
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Yeah, The Island was a weird one in the sense that, like, being directed by Michael Bay, it had some, like, Transformers-esque things. It was before he ever did that. Is that the one where they would, like...
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Yeah. Oof. It's an interesting. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. I'll watch it. I like you. And,
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hard not to yeah elena de howler werewolf queen for 9.99 says could we get dna tests of the bodies in the kern uh only saw it shoveled once so i misspelled that that's why of what huh i don't know bodies in the what uh the the karen but she yeah i don't think there were any bodies in that episode that was the problem that's right that's right Dill for $20.69. What are all the emojis? Squirrels?
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Somebody asked if there's a way to turn you into an AI. Yeah. Oh, somebody said if he has ADHD and did not take his meds, we should all post squirrels in the chat.
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Oh, yeah. That's probably what it was. Fantastic niche reference there, if that's it. If that's what it was, yeah.
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And they will not take no for an answer. Yeah. At a certain point, you're going to just kind of shut down and be like, I don't owe you anything. Yep.
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I wonder... No, that's an answer I don't need to... That's a question I don't need an answer to. What was the question going to be? It was going to be how many squirrels in one day would you need to milk to fill a glass? But I just don't really need to know the answer to that. That's the question I just asked. No, no, no, you proposed that it would take a lot. Yeah, that's true.
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I started diving into the logistics of it in my head, and I realized that that's just something I don't need to know.
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Apparently 890 people. Hell yeah, brother. This is shocking. Yeah. Anyway, yeah, so... I'm keeping water up here. I need a water. I know, I need water, and I'm craving those chips so bad. The chips? The Tostitos? Oh, I didn't even see those. Oh, yeah, I've been munching on them, like, every time I come in here, because I keep forgetting to get groceries for the house.
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We've been focusing on unpacking. Okay. Yeah.
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You know what my problem is in the kitchen? Is I have no problem with eating just chicken.
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It's because all of your genes are from the British. Yeah. But that's the thing is like I can be content eating just a piece of meat and a potato.
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You know, sometimes I forget just how much the English in me takes over at certain instances, because my last name is Thornberry. It's a place in England. Yeah, because people always used to make fun of me that I would just pair really random foods together. Like, I would have, like, just lunch meat and a kiwi. I'm going to throw something at you.
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I know, right? As a child, I didn't like the taste of a sandwich assembled because it felt like it took away from the flavor of all of the pieces. So I don't know, I might be autistic. So I'd eat the meat, the bread and the cheese separately.
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Yeah. It was whole wheat bread. It wasn't like it was like Wonder Bread. Buffalo chicken.
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Anywho, Dill, for $20.69, says, Can you reach out to Useful Charts and make a video? Love your stuff. Just finished all your videos and the Weird Bible. Now I'm getting started on Wendigo and much love. Well, thank you. Useful Charts. That could be an interesting one. I don't know what we'd do with them. I don't know either.
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That'd be nice. We could make a chart of all the things we could potentially make a chart for.
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Paisiolka. What a name. I'm sorry if I pronounced that incorrectly. Has been a member for 10 months. Thank you. Nexus for $9.99 says the Canadian government cares about everyone equally. They equally don't give a shit when people go missing.
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Chip with a hand grenade for $4.99 says, crazy how Tim Osmond's lawyer refused to defend the diddler.
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The names will never come out. No.
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He really ruined the whole image of a private Island.
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Yeah. No, what used to sound like a really cool, fun, like, oh, yeah, like a little, like, escape. Like, you know, feel like James Bond in No Time to Die with his little Jamaican hut and, like, a sailboat out front.
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Yeah, the hut's a temple, and little is young, and, you know.
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That's the thing. It's not a cult.
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Yeah, yeah. If you just say that's what it is, then it's not a cult. It's just you're taking orders. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. which is why we say that the ranch will not be a cult. Now it will become one. Eleanor to how their werewolf queen for four 99 says the Gabby Petito case is tragic. And I appreciate you respecting the family. Yeah. It's the right thing to do.
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Ask Lore for $2 says, Aiden T with short hair is cursed. No, this is the one I grew up with. Yeah, this is, it's so funny because all of the people who met me in the last year, three years, because I've had it long for about that time.
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Right about then is when I started letting it grow. Yeah.
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Let it grow. So it's really funny because everybody who met me in the last three years, when they saw the cut, they were like, whoa, who are you? Like, who is this guy? Everybody who's known me prior to that and most of my life was just like, oh, he's back. Like... Yep. It's shocking. Most people were like, yeah, we couldn't get used to it. It was weird. It was a lot. Yeah.
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It'll probably come back at some point.
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What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Yeah. Yeah. That was bad. Like, the last, like, foot of it was just bad. Yeah. That happens. Yeah. Anyway, more. DuoBlackRose for $2 says, OJ video when? Oh, God. Talk about cases that are way too convoluted.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Uh, chip with a hand grenade for it. I mean, it says it's all over now. It's all over now. What a reference. Uh, gum says, I'm going to tell it. So I'm going to incredible. Uh, next is for nine 99 says I was born in 2004. So in turn, I'm automatically blessed by Shrek two and will lead my fellow 2004 brethren to world domination. Good luck. Bless you. Good luck.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Here's the thing. This is a prime example of one of those things that you just, like, if you don't think about it, you don't recognize it. But it makes sense. That's the thing. Holmes is... House. Holmes and house are the same. Wilson. Watson.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
It's amazing how early they show that chase is going to be him, him, the next house. You figure chase is the next house. Oh yeah. That's how they end the show.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
I mean, I know she becomes intensely more like House by Season 3 because she's really cold now. But yeah, I didn't realize she went full psycho.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Yeah, I know it was the turn of the 2010s. You know, things were getting interesting at that period. It makes sense.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Anyway. It's just one episode, too. We're going to get yelled at. I know. How long we've been here. I know. Duo Black Rose for $5 says, They made an anime version of House. It's hysterical. I need to see it.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
I got to find out. I got to find out. I wanted to howler werewolf queen for nine 99 says YouTube channel autism on the inside. If you want facts about the disability. Okay. Check it out. Sure. Miss Maury for $5 says, congratulations to Cheyenne Tetra for successfully calling that this would end up on the Nahanni before we even got to starting.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Yeah, good job. Well done. But yeah, next it says, the sheep skulls were put there by a boat full of lusty Lovelock Cave giants sailing down a nearby river. You know what? Here's the thing. That's my hypothesis. Roughly.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Specifically that the people who put them there in Nahanni are of the same ilk of those who were the Saskettes and those who were likely the... Ah, I see where you're coming from.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Yeah. Could you imagine if all the red haired elements are true and the giant tribes of the mountains are actually just like the remnants of Celtic tribes that came here?
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
And like, we didn't hear about it because they didn't really keep much documentation and the natives didn't talk about it other than these stories. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
They weren't idiots. I'm sure they over time saw the pattern and they were like, we can't do that.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Makes sense. Sergeant Buck for $10 says Nirvana, Pearl Jam, the Beastie Boys are popping up on classic rock stations. I'd like to get off now. Pearl Jam and Nirvana have been on classic rock stations for like 10 years now.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Fair enough. Siegfried von Felsenbrot for $5.56. What a name. Really ironic form of monetary direction.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Yeah, I love that. Thanks so much. It says, as someone with an ASD diagnosis that was originally labeled Asperger's, gotta say I'm not a fan of the change.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Chimp with a hand grenade for $1.99 says, Jeppy Epi Steppy didn't use Canadian healthcare. Wow.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Yeah, makes a lot of sense, doesn't it? TotallyNotJaymo for $10.21, love the specificity, says, the milk loves all of its children. To those who struggle on even when facing those who wield the egg of the king, those who fight the wild and the Nosferatu, the milk blesses the with strength. Zerk, brother, call a doctor. What? What?
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Fair enough. I do like that you changed around the positioning of the the and the w with. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
First time, long time. Getting my MEM degree next week. HRA degree is already scheduled. What's going on with your chapter? Love the return of the old stuff. Nothing. Nothing's going on.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Thank you. Continue reading. Is this a Freemason thing? Okay. Skivity Mike DeRusher from 499 says, Hurt of the Banshee? It's like a banshee, but instead of screeching a warning, it laughs when you get hurt. Oh, ban he, not ban he. Ban he, yeah.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Well, then it would just be hunting for sport.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Who all did we see at the Fillmore? Sum 41.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Simple Plan. Who was the third? I thought there was a third.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
So I found out this weekend the best barbecue in even remotely this area is about two blocks away from there. Really? It's called Fet Sal. It was the best barbecue I've had, even by standards of some southern places I've been to.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Yeah. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, they use vinegar-based barbecue sauces instead of ketchup, so it's a little bit more like Deep South. All I got was a half a pound of brisket, half a pound of pulled pork, and a couple sides.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
I believe it. I gotta get a smoker.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Yeah. It'll be in there. Jamos says, I will dunk Madison Milk if Berserk is not red. Good luck. I'm bigger than you.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Echo Warrior for 999 says, Aiden, are you excited for the new Rings of Power season? LOL, how much would we have to super chat to have you review the show, but it's only positive connections to Tolkien's work?
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
This is an issue of principle. Million. No. Billion. No. Bezos takes a swan dive off the Golden Gate. You got it.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
There are now only three colors of laser swords. Mm-hmm. Ironic that he himself refuses to call them lightsabers. Oh, yeah. Even though he named them. Mm-hmm.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
I will say, Kathleen Kennedy did do great work in the 80s.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
No, I know. I'm assuming that that was as a result of what Rian Johnson did.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Since Abrams was supposed to do all three, and they were like, well, we didn't have the same director for all three of the originals, and we had the same director for the prequels, and which ones did better, so we got to change it up. And then Abrams came back after Ryan was done and he was like, this ruined everything I was going to do. And Luke Skywalker. What am I supposed to do now?
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Ella may be a husky, but she's not a sled dog.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
And they were like, I don't know, figure it out.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Yeah, when he's like, the new Star Wars movies were a bit of a letdown.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
I'm not going to lie. I enjoy them, at least the prequels, in the order they were released. Really? Yeah. I find the elements of Obi-Wan's detective story far more engaging than anything in the Phantom. See, that's the thing.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Yeah. Here's the problem. I knew people when we were growing up that approached women like Anakin did and
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
So I watched the movies and be like, I know people like this. This is believable. Yeah. Especially anybody who went to an all boys school. That's fair.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Oh, no, it's cringy. It's cringy, but when I think about the context of this guy was a slave until he was like six or eight. He's like nine. Nine. Most Jedi are taking it like six to eight. Goes into a religious cult for a decade. Clearly has not... That denies any form of relationships with people other than like educational. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
And then is reintroduced to the one... I mean, they're basically the Templars.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Is reintroduced to the one woman he ever had any interest in. The movie's showing that he is clearly mentally unstable. Mm-hmm. He's also like 19. Yeah. So he's a hormonal idiot. Oh, he gets groomed too. Yeah. Gets groomed. He's a hormonal idiot. He has no experience with women whatsoever. No emotional regulation whatsoever. The dude commits a minor genocide in the film.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
In some stories, it's nice to have a villain that's just a villain.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Have you watched any Westerns from, like, the 50s and 60s? No. No. Oh, wow. Oh, wow, that was a weird time. We think things seem like they're aged and out of touch from 20 years ago. Dude, they'd have, like, white guys playing natives. Oh, yeah, I know. In just, like, weird... It's... I watched The Searchers, which is considered, like... I've seen clips of things. They get...
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
I watched The Searchers, which is directed by Tom Ford, who's one of the most successful directors of all time, and it was considered, like, John Wayne's best Western. First of all, I've seen better John Wayne Westerns, so I don't know why they're talking about that that way. But yeah, it's... Wow. Yeah, movies were... Things were really different before Brando. Yeah. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Anyway. Anyway. White Trash Panda's been a member for five months. Oh, my God.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
also somebody who's been here a lot longer than that yeah seriously uh elena the howler werewolf queen for 4.99 says just wanted to say that i loved it when you're nerding out together woo thank you well we just did it twice uh zork the destroyer back at it again for canadian three dollars and 57 cents loving the choices of donations here i don't know what it is about that incredible
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
heard a quote story linking haida to maori peoples i beg your finest pardon am i misremembering who the haida are I really hope I am. H-A-I-I-D-A. And Maori is M-A-U-I. Oh, no, I know who the Maori are.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
What is this John Cena heel turn everybody's talking about? What's going on with him? No idea. I saw he walked away from a press conference. Is it just a bit for some new character thing he's doing in WWE?
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Alright, might have to look into that one now. I'm excited. Also, didn't know that John Wayne played Genghis Khan at one point, which is interesting. Also, Lawrence of Arabia is a really cool movie. Oh, it's so good. It's unfortunate that Alec Guinness has to play an Arab guy. Yeah, because the problem is he's really good in it. He's so good in it. He's so good in it, but it's not a good thing.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
We could talk about the reason there weren't. That's Alec Guinness did a great job.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
You know what's so interesting about that movie? Is that was a fantastical spectacle of its day. And it was just unadulterated images of Earth. Yep. No CGI because it didn't exist. No props, no sets other than things that existed just like in the life and time that it was shot in. Just shot on location. Images of the desert. Yep. And it looks better than the vast majority of things today.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Also, I will stand by this. Any filmmakers out in the audience, stop over-color correcting your films, please.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
the the visuals yeah well it's just lack of intentionality there's a great video that somebody made about that and it's because a lot of those films nowadays because they are so concerned with matching the market they're shooting everything with really flat lighting and really flat general coloring and then recoloring it and then recoloring it to fit what they think is going to be best in post yeah instead of making the decision ahead of time this doesn't look as good
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
That's the problem, is there are certain things you can change in post.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
You don't have to. Just purely because, like, Tarantino's made some great use of pastels, especially in, like, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Yeah, made some great use.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
I think a person who is a prime example of fantastic... I mean, Roger Deakins, obviously. It was a pleasure to be able to get to meet him a couple years ago. Like, phenomenal. Phenomenal. Phenomenal. Getting there. Cinematographer. The gold standard. Unfortunately, who I'm going to reference, I don't know who his cinematographer is, but almost every David Fincher film is just gorgeous.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Like, I just re-watched Seven again. Ugh. i'd love to see more things like that i know they exist um i know we've seen some things like that recently and i know that was the exception even then but the biggest issue nowadays is because quantity over quality is the rule now especially with all the streamers you don't get $80 million films like that anymore. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
They're lucky to get a budget of 20. And the problem is, is because they don't make the money back.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Matt Damon had a great conversation about this where I think I've seen some clips from that. Yeah. It was not, it was right around the time where they were making Ford V Ferrari, which again, that was another 80, $90 million budget that I think barely squeaked by on profitability. Okay. To be fair, Very niche. Very niche. Have you seen it? I've heard it's incredible.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
One of my top 10 favorite movies of all time.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
No, Top Gun had a budget of like over $200 million.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
That's the thing. So what Damon talks about is specifically that they were able to make movies like that and like Good Will Hunting because no matter what the theatrical run was, they had physical media DVD sales, which usually for films like that way outplayed their theatrical runs. Yeah. And now the deal with the streamers is they pay one lump sum... That's it. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
And you don't see residuals for the studios. You don't see residuals for the actors. The whole industry has changed. I don't know. Personally, as someone who's really went to school for it but is only really tangentially involved in it right now, I do think a big change is coming. I would hope.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Because the way streamers are increasing their prices and consistently adding more and more ads in, they're basically creating cable again on Wi-Fi. Mm-hmm. I think companies are going to come back and start providing essentially what cable was, but internet based rather than like cable based. And we're just going to go back to the same thing we had before. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Yeah, they took the scene at Rook to get it, but yeah.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Yeah. Most films I watch, I buy on Amazon because it has the best quality. I'm also a snob. So I have 21 by nine monitors, which is basically the same as CinemaScope.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
So if I watch something like Jaws, it then takes up the entire widescreen frame, which is basically like watching something in a cinema at my desk. I think something that also needs to be addressed within the film release world that I've not heard anybody talk about is
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
is uh studios you need to hold the theaters accountable because a large part of the reason that i haven't gone to a theater in a long time is because i don't want to sit in a chair that smells like piss yeah it's not fun to go to the movies anymore not just because i'm lazy and it's inconvenient because most theaters are gross now yeah it's kind of nasty
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Like, the chairs are not comfortable whatsoever. They all are not well taken care of for the most part.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
Oh, I was going to bring this up on History Unhinged.
The Lore Lads
What Is Going On With Canada? | Podcast Episode 160
But you have to remember who Brad Pitt was in 2004.
The Lore Lads
What Would Have Happened if the Vikings Stayed? | Podcast Episode 164
Yeah, I don't know.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
There are drones. Do not worry. I'm the president. We have drone control. It's the best drone control in the world, I promise you. And you know what? There are drones. I'm just gonna be honest. There are drones, people. And our drones are so good that even we didn't know they were our drones.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
It would be... You see, NASA did such a good job with the drones that even the military didn't know they were our drones.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
And we're back. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Lore Lodge. I don't know which camera. It's that one. Hi, welcome back to the Lore Lodge. Archie is here. He's in studio. He's not facing the camera, but are we really surprised?
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
get emotionally connected to this person and to be you know on their side to have private conversations to you know have uh i think there was one thing about somebody having dinner with him at one point um i've never seen that before and i don't like it i don't like what i'm seeing i mean we went and uh sat down with with tommy booth's mom we had a conversation with her
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
For those of you who have seen the Sebastian Rogers series, and now the just full documentary that went up on Friday, you'll know most of what I did with that case was comparing interviews, looking for inconsistencies in the story.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
But there wasn't a whole war going on. We weren't, you know, getting up there and like, you know, bashing other YouTube channels who disagreed with us. We were getting up there and saying, hey, I think the police are wrong and I respect the work of the smiley face killers gang, but I think they're wrong, too. Here's where we're going with it. And that was the end of it.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
But what I've seen with Sebastian Rogers is there will be people who go on literally seven hour live streams and all they do is get a panel together to talk about Sebastian Rogers. And when you get into the nitty gritty, they barely talk about Sebastian. It's all about the drama between Chris and Seth and Katie and Nina and, you know, the parents and the power side, all of it.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
It's they become drama podcasts. And that's not what this is supposed to be. I mean, listen, I get it. It's one thing with the Ramseys. It's an old as hell case. We all know who did it. I mean, nobody really doubts it. The two sides here are very lopsided. Sebastian, it doesn't feel that way.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
And then you get not just YouTubers, but private investigators and lawyers and all these people from different sides who get on and they start yelling at each other. And, and what I've noticed is the entire thing has moved away from Sebastian Rogers. It is no longer about finding Sebastian Rogers is about, you know, my side being right. And I don't, I don't like that at all. Um,
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
I mean, I had somebody on Twitter yesterday, I think it was, accuse me of being a mod for Seth's channel. And my response was, I don't have time to do my own live streams, let alone moderate somebody else's. I don't have time. But there's just this default assumption that you're on one side or the other. You must be biased. You must be part of Team Rogers or Team Proudfoot.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
There's no other alternative. Nobody considers the fact that you might sit here as a third party going, hey, I have no skin in this game. I just want the kid found. That's inconceivable to a lot of these people.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
perfect you know i i've had my moments but i don't understand what happened here and i think it all it's just once again another weird thing where like non-law enforcement amateur web sleuths for lack of a better term and i know the irony i get it i understand the irony of me saying this a lot of these people get involved and
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Because when you have no physical evidence, which is basically the case with JonBenet, I mean, the intruder did it side will argue till the cows come home that the unknown DNA proves that the Ramseys had nothing to do with this. And in my opinion, First of all, I keep seeing more and more coverage that says the intruder, the DNA is not as strong of a profile as they keep insisting it is.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
And they are so emotionally connected to their point of view that they cannot set aside the biases. And usually it's not a big deal. You know, with the Rogers case, it's not a huge deal because nobody seems to have, for lack of a better term, classified information. Nobody's got their hands on something nobody else has. But with Jameson, with Sue Bennett, she's got it all.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
She's got pages of transcripts and DNA analysis and interviews, and we don't get to see it. I mean, I've said for a long time, if I have access to something that would benefit the public's interest, I will release it. Or at the very least, I will offer to release it. Like, I might not just put it up there, but if somebody comes to me and says, hey, can I take a look at that?
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
I'm going to say, yeah, sure, why not? What you doing?
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Okay. But yeah, I feel like I'm talking to myself here.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
It is. Hey, Seth. How you doing? How's it going? I'm sorry this is happening to you. I mean, and that was the thing is I came into this totally unbiased. You might remember in the first video, I didn't say a damn thing about the proudfoots.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
So, I mean, it was only once I actually started to look at what Chris Proudfoot was saying.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
And I mean, when I... I even commented, I asked Steve Fisher about one of these things, SF Investigates. He posted something about, I think it was Bullhorn Betty, because the Proudfoots are trying to send her to prison for driving past their house, I guess. I guess there was a protective order and she violated it, but didn't actually like, she didn't contact them or anything.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
I think she just got too close to them. while filming something. I don't know the details of it, but like, anyway, he's posting about that. And I'm like, so this person who clearly is in no way involved born, Betty didn't take Sebastian. I get, you know, I can understand if they're being sincere where they're coming from. Yeah, I get it. You know, it's, You had a protective order.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
She violated it. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. What does that have to do with Sebastian Rogers? Nothing. Why are you still talking about it? Why is that? Are you investigating the disappearance of Sebastian Rogers or are you a PR person? You know, like I get it. You're the investigator hired by the family.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
So we have somebody who's supposed to be taking a look at that. I haven't checked in on that in a little bit. So I got to go through and see where we're at. You have been ill. I am sick also. I have not been well. This is like a few weeks that I should have had this handled. But I also didn't know what questions to ask necessarily. I just got to get it done.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
But if you're going to go out and try and like make it public, you're a private investigator, buddy. Unless you're sharing everything you have, keep it to yourself. Because otherwise you're cherry picking and crafting a narrative and nobody can get in there to crack holes in it. Like you're doing a lawyer's job, not an investigator's job. You're doing a spokesman's job, not an investigator's job.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Why are we talking about Bullhorn Betty? So I asked him, I said, Steve, you taking a look at Chris Proudfoot's court records? And just cascade of replies like, what does that have to do with anything? You know, he didn't, like, violate a protective order, blah, blah, blah. And I'm sitting here like, you're right, he didn't violate a protective order. He...
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
took one out fraudulently, then had it adjudicated to be not needed. And then he spent five years in court trying to reclaim custody of his daughter so that he could rip her away from the only family she's ever known and bring her to some rural village in Tennessee. where she is going to be... And here's the thing.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
I don't like getting into identity politics or any of that, but this is a girl who is Hispanic and Native American and currently lives in Albuquerque, New Mexico with her mother and her grandparents and her other siblings. Seth has spent the better part of a decade now... Or not Seth, sorry.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Chris has spent the better part of a decade now trying to rip that child out of a place where she is with family who loves her with her mother, with her siblings, has been enrolled in school for several years, and is, you know, not a complete and total minority. Now, I mean, I have almost exclusively good things to say about the people of Tennessee. I have had great experiences in Tennessee.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
I love it. I feel like for the most part, culturally, I don't see a ton of difference between Tennessee and central Pennsylvania. Other than food. Other than the food. Well, central Pennsylvania, the food's spot on.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Philadelphia... gatlinburg you could catch up uh but we loved the food down there it was just it's we as northerners can only take it for so long it's a lot of salt yeah i loved loved the place loved the people the food almost killed me yeah um i loved i loved a lot of it it was really tasty it's just like it piles up
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Were they delicious? Absolutely. Some of the best breakfast food I had in my life.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
But my point is, when we were in Townsend, we're two white gentlemen. We're not from Massachusetts. We don't really dress like, you know, Yankees, as you might, you picture like somebody who dresses like Northeast style. We don't do that.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Yeah, exactly. So I don't know about you. There were a few occasions, especially when Isaiah wasn't with us. Out in more of the rural areas, less touristy areas where I did not feel particularly welcome. And it was based off of my accent. I wasn't there as a tourist or a carpetbagger. I was there to shoot a video about local stuff. I wasn't trying to exploit anything.
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So, I'm also not there yet. You know, I'm not at that part. Would I love to have an answer? Yes. But am I there yet? No. But for those who watch the Sebastian Rogers stuff, this is a similar situation where there's really no physical evidence. Because the police did not handle it the way they should have. In the Sebastian Rogers case, it's much worse. Because if I am the police...
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I was just down there like, hey, here's a cool story from Tennessee. And I felt uncomfortable in some places. And I get it. I mean, there's a lot of reasons to be suspicious of outsiders in places like Townsend, for example. I cannot imagine the situation would be better for a young Hispanic girl. Unfortunately, yeah. And these are considerations in custody battles.
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If you look at the situation, Chris Proudfoot is frequently not home. He works in another city across the state, so he's frequently not home. which means that this girl will be left with her very high needs due to chromosomal deletion syndrome, very high needs autistic older stepbrother, and a mother who, a stepmother who, I mean, I don't,
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I don't know what words to use, but she does not strike me as particularly. I involved particularly concerned with child care. Yeah. And who also has, you know, according to Nina Gomez on several occasions, like traumatized this child, I. There is no good reason. to take Faith out of Albuquerque and bring her to Hendersonville, Tennessee. There is no good reason.
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Not a single one. Now, I can see the argument being, well, I'm her dad, I deserve 50-50 custody at least. Well, maybe if you lived in the same state. But you didn't. You... Forced, not forced, but basically being the husband in the situation, I coordinated a move from I think they were in Albuquerque at the time, Albuquerque to a small town in Tennessee.
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You then went ahead and tried to separate a mother from her daughter. All of this was very deliberate, by the way, if you if you look at the order of events. Yeah.
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And then when you lost that case and she fled to New Mexico, you continue to spend multiple years fighting for it, realizing that with each passing year, the list of reasons that Faith would be better off in Tennessee dwindles more and more. I also think, I don't think Chris gives a damn about that child. I think he just wants to hurt Nina.
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Yeah, I don't think Faith would be better off in Tennessee. And Chris doesn't think Faith would be better off in Tennessee either, as we can tell from the fact that he made a significant effort to get Sebastian out of the home. There's a lot of people who have suggested, and I haven't found the proof of this yet.
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A lot of people suggested that Chris gave Katie an ultimatum that was, you know, it's Sebastian or it's me. Doesn't look like, if that's true, that Katie picked Sebastian. In my mind, this all comes down to the custody case with Faith. In my mind, this is all about getting Faith.
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And I get that phone call, that 911 call, at like 6 a.m. from the Proudfoots. I didn't think this at the time because I hadn't studied the JonBenet case. But if I'm a police officer, I assume that I've at least read about the JonBenet case and what went wrong. Perhaps not. If that is not the case, then I... Have we learned nothing, guys?
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And what is astonishing to me is that somehow that stuff is not the topic of conversation. It's drama. It's Bullhorn Betty. It is Dog the Bounty Hunter. It is SF Investigates. It's JLR. All these different people who are somehow the topics of conversation. I'm not trying to go out there and be like, hey, none of you get to do this. Only I get to do this. No, that's not my point.
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My point is when you have become the topic of conversation rather than the avenue for conversation, you have become an obstruction. And I'm seeing that from a lot of people, several people on both sides of this, by the way. I'm not going to name names. I don't want to be attacking people. It needs to be about Sebastian, just like it needed to be about Jean Benet.
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But instead, it became about SF Investigates, and it became about Jameson. And what's weird to me, too, about this whole thing, and what I think is a very important... And there was another case where I was am to this day closely, closely in contact with the parent. Has that parent ever made an appearance on this show? Not yet. Not one of you has seen Gabby Petito's mother.
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Not one of you has seen her brother. I have both of their phone numbers. I have spoken to both of them multiple times. Had a six hour phone conversation with Nicole at one point. They haven't been on this show. They haven't been on any shows. And what was the result? It was a court proceeding that wasn't mired in random true crime community drama, even though the case was all over social media.
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But the parents kept it in the courtroom where it belonged. And to be perfectly honest, I'm disgusted with the outcome. I think justice was not served. I mean, you look at it, the laundry is absolutely new. There is no question in my mind that Roberta Laundrie knew that her son murdered Gabby.
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Oh, we will. I know there's another Netflix one coming out on it.
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Mm-hmm. I don't think there's a Netflix one on Gabby yet. Not a full, like, not to the level they did JonBenet. Oh, wasn't there something, though? I think there was something, but Netflix is doing the same thing they did with JonBenet. Oh, okay. Yeah, so that was my understanding last time I talked to Nicole, at least.
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So there were things, basically, the family was hamstrung with what they could say until that comes out. So when it comes out, I'm going to do exactly what I did with JonBenet, and I'm going to go through it and be like, all right, here's everything Netflix left out. unless they didn't leave everything out, maybe they did a good job. You know, who knows?
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So far, it looks like the Tito side is happy with what's happened. Maybe they did a good job. Maybe I won't have to do that. But, you know, as somebody who has that in, when the time comes, I'm going to go back and revisit it. That was how it should have been done. What did the Petitos do? They reached out to a few influential people.
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They said, hey, can you tell this story about their daughter missing? And then they went to the courts.
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Yeah, so right when it happened, I think like the day... I think it was the day it went public. A kid named TJ reached out to me. He had been a follower of mine on TikTok for a little while. I've been talking about all the Missing411 stuff, and he basically was like, I never thought I'd be asking this, but my sister is missing, and it kind of matches the criteria you talk about.
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So I made a video and the next day it was everywhere. It wasn't everywhere the next day because of me. It was just everywhere. I, and that's how I became involved. So over time, I got a chance to talk to TJ a few times. I got a chance to talk to Nicole, um, actually asked Nicole for her opinion on, uh, the gap or nothing. I had the JonBenet Ramsey stuff. Um, And that was it.
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Did she have a long phone conversation with me when I did our full video on it in November of 2022? Yeah, she did. It wasn't public. It wasn't out there for people to analyze and rip apart, and then she'd go on another show and another show and another show and another show and contradict herself a whole bunch of times.
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There are ways to handle these things that allow people to do the hard-hitting journalism... without turning it into a cesspit of drama. And I don't understand why... I mean, this far out, I don't get why I post about Sebastian. I post a three-hour-long, heavily-researched, fact-based documentary, and I've got people on Twitter coming at me saying, you know, oh, you're biased.
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You work for Seth Rogers. I've never taken a dime from Seth Rogers. Not even in a super chat. something's not right about the way this is being handled and it's coming. It's becoming very clear. I, and I think that at this point it can almost be defined as a strategy.
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I mean, Chris Proudfoot successfully turned this case into a true crime YouTuber drama instead of an investigation into where his stepson is. I, I just, the depths of my hatred for this man. I don't know. I just think it's so interesting how history keeps rhyming. And I worry that the kind of interference we're seeing from certain people is going to be the same kind of thing like with Jameson.
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Yeah. I mean, the thing is, there were protocols put in place because of the JonBenet Ramsey case. that should have been followed with Sebastian Rogers. And, I mean, I don't know how, as an officer, you're sitting there, you get the 911 call at 6.30 in the morning, and it's, you know, oh, our child is missing, you know?
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I mean, if not for Jameson, nobody questions Don Foster. I mean, supposedly, the Ramsey attorneys had a letter he sent to Patricia all along. It's sent to Patsy where he said that he didn't think she did it. But here's what I'm interested in. He's never come out and said this, but I noticed a bit of a pattern of my own. In the stuff Jameson said, he had sent her an email.
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You're very complimentary. You're one of the only people I'm seeing with educated, intelligent, calm messaging about this. And that opened a dialogue. And then I see he sends a letter to Patsy where he says, I don't think it was you at all. I know it wasn't you. I think I could help. I think he wanted... He wanted samples. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm giving the guy too much credit.
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But if you're suspicious of somebody, and he was suspicious that Jameson might be John Andrew, according to Jameson, if you're suspicious of somebody, you're not going to just tell him, hey, I think you did it. Now give me all the reasons to believe you did.
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Yeah, so, I mean, I don't know.
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I gotta say, just off the I have all of these documents and I'm not sharing them thing alone, Jameson, you're a bad person. And you should feel bad. Also, writing a play, you're weird. That was a weird thing to do. Stop being strange. Like, turn over what you've got. Show us the transcripts. Show us the documents. Show us the analysis. Whatever it is, you're not implicated.
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If they don't, it would be great for us to know that this person is completely unreliable and not just spotty. Yeah, that's a public call-out right there. If you've got this stuff, show us. You're active on Reddit. I know you're still here. Because that's something like 15 days ago. And there's no good reason not to share it at that point. There isn't.
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If you've got 30 pages of a transcript with Burke Ramsey, the police conducted that interview. The police conducted this interview with Burke Ramsey. 30 page interview. You've got him. Burke Ramsey's never been arrested. What are you afraid of me reading?
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How do you not, at least in the back of your mind, go, all right, this seems familiar. I mean, there's differences, don't get me wrong. Like, you know, in the JonBenet Ramsey case, if we look at it, there is... the alarm system in the home that wasn't on. Right.
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who has a very inflated sense of her self-worth.
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Ah, so according to Kohler, it has to do with the Department of Social Services.
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I guess that as part of the... as part of the procedure, when a child dies in the home, the surviving children are separated from the parents and from the other family members. And I guess that due to the nature of the crime, maybe they didn't need permission from John and Patsy to conduct the interview. They might have had it, but they might not have needed it.
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And then arguably the only reason that John and Patsy agreed to the interview with Dr. Susan Bernhard a week later, I'm sorry, two weeks later, was because if they didn't agree to it, Child Protection Services could come in and say, hey, he's our kid now. Interview him.
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So by allowing it, allowing the interview, they were able to ensure that they had some demands met, such as he's not allowed to be interrogated by a police officer. It has to be a psychiatrist or a psychologist. But what I want to know is why not, if that transcript does not suggest Burke had something to do with it, why are you not revealing it? Why are you just being cagey about it?
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Why are you telling me what is and isn't in it? It seems very, very sketchy to me. And I, you know, maybe I'll make a list. Maybe I'll leverage our community. We got a lot of people in that Discord. Maybe I'll leverage our community and say, hey, you need to comb through all of Jameson's Reddit posts. You need to tell me what she says she has, what she says she refuses to release.
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You know, maybe, maybe instead of just sitting here going, I'm frustrated, maybe we should do a video on all the things Susan Bennett refuses to share with the rest of us. Or she could just share. But she's made herself a public person. She said, I'm Jameson.
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Yeah, I mean, I sit here and I'm like, you know what? That information's got to get out somehow. It's not a threat, by the way. We cover a lot of different things. Not saying do this or else we will. Just saying. Maybe it would benefit the public to know what Jameson refuses to release. Just a thought.
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And in the Sebastian Rogers case, we have an alarm system in the home that everyone has alluded to that apparently has no bearing on this case because it, I mean, multiple people have mentioned there being cameras in the home. The proud foots were really cagey about where the cameras are in the home and said there weren't any outside, but that would imply there are some inside. Uh,
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Even though, you know, it is in the hands of a private citizen.
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Wait, really quickly here. I just wanted to check and make sure. Yep. Ready? Because I sent a message on Instagram to Jameson earlier tonight directly asking about this. I have not heard back. Just wanted to check and make sure we were still good on that. Yep. My question was, why aren't you sharing?
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I mean, I understand that was like, you know, so-and-so did not respond to our request for comment when I sent the request for comment five minutes before the deadline, but still, we continue. Yep. What happened? What are our likely options here, or likely outcomes?
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I get the feeling you might be right about basically any of those. Yeah. I think another option too is that Jameson does in fact have all of this stuff. And just sues us.
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Defamation, probably. It's all speculative. It is. Wouldn't be the first time somebody sued somebody for something stupid. It's not a lot of money to waste on a lawsuit. It is, but this is a woman who wrote a play about the murder of JonBenet Ramsey in which she is somehow a character. Like, wrote herself into... Honestly, at that point, look at Jameson. What do serial killers do?
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They involve themselves. This would be an extremely... Wouldn't that be wild? ...insane case of that, yeah. Wouldn't that be crazy? I don't think that's what it is. I don't think Jameson had anything to do with it. But I think, you know, we've already had one person in this case who was exonerated by DNA evidence who...
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inserted himself and admitted to doing it and then was found definitively to have not. I do love that. Like I pointed out some people on Reddit, like John Mark Carr did not have the story, right? Like there were multiple places where he did not. He had his details wrong.
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And you would think that one of those cameras would have caught Sebastian at least walking through the house, if not leaving it.
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Netflix makes a lot of good stuff. Just their documentaries are not on the list. The people involved, just the subculture that's kind of sprung up. I've talked to some good people on the Intruder Did It side before. But there's also some who just, their whole goal is, you know, I want to be right.
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I mean, people who, for example, there's one person who posted some excerpts from the deposition of Steve Thomas. didn't like post it. Like, you know, look at all these things. Steve Thomas is saying, can't you tell he had no business being on this case?
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Well, like you sit there and you, you read it with the understanding that it's a deposition that he's being sued and that his goal in the deposition is not to incriminate himself in a way that makes him lose money. Yep. So there's a statement where he says, I don't know, or he asks multiple clarifying questions. That's him making sure a lawyer doesn't get one over on him.
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And the lawyer trying to get one over on him was a guy who is now known for spreading false information in order to get himself into the spotlight. Looking at you, Ellen Wood, and your claims about the 2020 election. I mean, like that election could have been completely fraudulent and you still didn't make a point.
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Like, somebody at Washington Post could drop it tomorrow, like, we have undoubted proof that the election was stolen. And Lin Wood would still be wrong. Like, that's how far off the marquee was. He had nothing. He's like, we have the evidence. There was none. And I don't mean, like, this is not a commentary on that entire controversy. I mean, he specifically had nothing. Never. Ever, ever.
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There was nothing. Um... And yet, somehow, we're still parading this guy's deposition around in the JonBenet case like he's somebody we should listen to.
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Yeah, it's so frustrating. I mean, there have been things I've been wrong about in this case, but I've been coming out and admitting them as they happen. Because that's less embarrassing than trying to hide it and people finding out later. Yeah. Like, I'd rather be embarrassed right now or right after I made the mistake rather than 20 years from now when I have a legitimate career.
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A little strange. Yeah, I know. I agree. I'm not sure I believe there weren't any outside either. But, I mean, you know, so that's just... Those aren't similar. You know, there's nothing there. I just, I don't know. I know that I make this big thing about it and then I don't say much. It's because I'm sick and I don't have time to go through the bullet point list of every single thing.
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Okay, apparently we had different high school experiences because for me, it was he owned up to the Bay of Pigs. He said Bay of Pigs was a disaster. It was his fault. He was sorry. That was all on him. And it was just heaped onto us. Look at this accountability from a public figure. Isn't this great? Pay no attention to the fact that it never happens anymore.
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Like, dude, you know how baller it would be if George Bush got up there and he was like, oh, now listen. Invading Iraq was a little bit of a mistake. I will own up to that one.
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That was a good one. Didn't want to risk it. Oh, God. But, you know, it's stuff like that, you know, hammered into us. Accountability is good. Accountability is a good thing.
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Yeah. Well, that's what gets you with Jameson. What's your plan? Or dudette, I guess. What's your plan? What's the point? Why aren't you sharing? What is in it for you if it wasn't the family? What is in it for you if it was the family? Psychologically? Yeah. I don't know. Maybe, yeah.
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That's a very good point. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it kind of seems like a situation where you had somebody who was on web sleuths in 1998. Or like 1997, I guess. who saw the opportunity to maybe have her 15 minutes, and when she didn't get it, started doing everything in her power to hang on to it.
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Yeah, I mean... Tell you this, somebody ever sends me a confidential file, and I look at the file and I go, oh, this could crack the case if the public just knew about it. That file is going on the internet.
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I have videos on both. But my point is to say that when I look at the Sebastian Rogers and the JonBenet cases, I see a lot of similarities. And we went over that last week. A lot of the same mistakes were made. A lot of the police issues were the same. But as I'm going through the part four stuff for JonBenet, I came across a, well, I was looking for something else entirely.
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I mean... In the case of Tommy Booth, I would ask for the sole reason that I have respect for his parents. I mean, individual to individual, if I had case files, yeah, probably. If it was something like that, I might ask for permission before posting it publicly, though. Yeah, I mean, if I have case files and I think that they could help, my goal is I want more people to be aware.
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If something happened, I want the most people possible to know about it.
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Yeah. Also super weird that somebody who works for Brinks installing those cameras doesn't want to talk about them. She should know the ins and outs. She should know everything about them.
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Mm-hmm. It's almost like I would never use this in a courtroom, but people with nothing to hide typically don't hide it. I mean, the Ramseys were dodging the police before the police even intimated that the Ramseys were suspects. And they said they were doing it on the advice of their lawyers. What did the lawyers know? I mean, it's December 26th. It's the day this happened.
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And your lawyers are telling you don't say anything to the police. Anything not make sure we're present. Just don't say anything.
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Never talk to the officer who's arresting you, but talk to the cops with the lawyer. I mean... Time and time again, in every case I've seen, that has been the best advice. Like, cops show up and they're, you know, interviewing day of, you're like, I'm sorry, I just want to make sure I have a lawyer present.
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Like, okay, they might look at you suspiciously, but if you then go into the interrogation room with your lawyer and your lawyer sits next to you and tells you which questions to answer and not answer, a little harder to claim you didn't cooperate. They didn't cooperate. I mean... And by they, you mean the Ramseys? Yeah. The day of, they are answering questions, but then contradicting themselves.
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I came across a comment from a user called Jameson. And I had read the name Jameson before in Kohler and Thomas's books. I'd read the name Jameson in a number of articles. The name Jameson came up, I think, in one of the documentaries we watched.
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They are trying to get on flights to Atlanta. They are, as we find out later on, lying about their movements on the day that things happened. Nothing about the Ramseys screamed innocent. Everything screamed guilty. So there was a very good reason to be investigating them... especially when the FBI comes in and says, hey, it's almost always the parents in cases like this.
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The FBI said that the first day. And when you think about it, had the Ramseys just gone in on December 27th and sat for those interviews, the police knew nothing on the 27th. Nothing at all. If the Ramseys had gone in on the 27th, cops would have asked them a whole bunch of questions and then they probably would have gone home and the cops would probably have moved on. Or who knows?
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Maybe they would have picked up on something. Maybe later on they'd have come back. But the immediate story wouldn't be the Ramseys avoided the police. You wouldn't have somebody nearly 30 years later sitting here going... All of the evidence points against them. And if they had just talked to the cops at first, I wouldn't be so suspicious. Legitimately, if the Ramseys had gone to the police...
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very first day walked in and said hey I'm ready for my interview here's my lawyer but I'm ready for my interview I've been like oh that makes sense that's what you should do instead they spend about five months really sorry four months January February March April they spend four months insisting to the media that they're cooperating and then they turn around and they avoid the police
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Like, it's... You're just heaping suspicion onto yourself at that point. Like, I was a little suspicious that John refused to sit for an interview at first, considering how fine he seemed. But as it goes on longer and longer and longer and longer, and there's more and more evasion, and there's more of the lawyers doing things like saying, hey, you can't test those samples. Like...
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I mean, I'm reading through the interview they gave on the 1st of January 1997. We'll sneak peek next week's video. John lies within literally the first 30 seconds. Really? Yeah. One of the first things that they say is Brian Cable asks, hey, you know, why did you decide that you wanted to sit down and be on TV now?
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And the weird part was I'm reading through this transcript of an interview that happened with Burke Ramsey on the 26th of December, 1996, which I actually was not aware it happened because it hadn't come up anywhere yet. It was in Kohler's book and I just hadn't seen it yet.
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And John says, well, you know, we've been totally isolated for the last five days. They were staying with friends and family the whole time. They weren't isolated. They could have walked in and talked to the police at any time. They could have walked out and talked to the media at any time. They were staying with friends. They were staying with family. They weren't isolated.
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In no way does the term isolated describe their situation. And then he goes on to say seconds later. That, you know, everyone's been there for them. Family, friends, co-workers, you know, everyone's been so great. They've all, you know, people have been sending us letters, people have been coming by to visit. So you open with this appeal to emotion.
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This, oh, we've just been so lonely and isolated after our daughter passed away. And seconds later, you're talking about the outpouring of support and how everybody's made you feel so warm. How do you like, it's so obvious that they went into it with like, okay, we need to present ourselves as sympathetic as mourning parents, as victims, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah.
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And that was apparently all they thought ahead because they contradict themselves the very next moment. Um, there was another thing that's, I'm trying to remember what was, it was from the interview. Oh God. I even had it highlighted.
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Yeah, go ahead. Pull them up. I'm trying to remember what it is. It's, It's like on the tip of my tongue.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
JonBenet right there. And then the CNN interview.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
It was very zoomed in. Yeah. Should be somewhere in there.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Turns out they did interview Burke on that day when about 40 minutes, most of the transcript has never been released to the public. For some reason, A&E got their hands on it and did not release it to the public and did not include the entire thing in their documentary, which is just, again, to say, guys, if you're not going to actually try and solve the case, just don't talk about it like.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Your daughter was murdered in your home five days ago. Your emotions are not angry.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
It's a very interesting thing they do throughout the investigation, by the way. They'll say, you know, we're not angry. Like, you know, we just want to move on. First of all, if my dog was murdered five days later, it wouldn't be I'm not angry. I just want to find who did this so I can move on. It would be I'm furious and I want to find who did this so I can string them up like.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
I and there's another another thing is throughout that interview, they leave out details. About the crime. That if you knew those details at the time, you would have been looking at the screen going, what do you mean you're not angry? Yeah. What do you mean you're not angry? but they leave them out.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
And I think it's because if people knew the truth, if people knew what the Ramses knew, they'd look at them and go, what's wrong with you? There's another interview later. There's a pastor. I think there's like a couple of years later, a pastor is talking to him. Cause you know, they always make these appeals to, Oh, we're a good Christian family who doesn't believe in charity.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Like just want to, mine's real. I sit down with a pastor and he's like, you know, after this conversation, I will probably have questions from other pastors that are, you know, like, should I let these people into my church or these good people? Like, what do you think? You know, and I have to ask you that question, you know, like, you know, like how, what should I tell them?
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Like, he's basically trying to prod them and like giving him a reason, give me something, something that I can say that will make you guys look innocent to the Christian community. And John Ramsey sits there and goes, well, I mean, even if even if we were murderers, would we not be welcome in the church there?
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
You know, Patsy's like, isn't the church a place for, you know, sinners and for like, you know, the idea that the church is a hospital for sinners, not a clubhouse for the faithful.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
that concept got it and they're just they don't say we're innocent they don't say we could never kill our daughter it's like well i mean even if we were murderers i'd hope we would still be allowed in church i mean church for these people wasn't a wasn't a religious experience it wasn't where you went to feel like communion with god it was a place where you went to be seen
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
It was a place where you went to show off. You wanted to make sure you were in your church community because that was the thing to do, especially down south where Patsy's from. Oh, your church is the center of your community. So for them, the church isn't a hospital for the sin. It isn't a hospital for the sinners. The church isn't a place to feel closer to Jesus.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
And, you know, that's kind of where I was coming from with the title for this one. You know, when true crime becomes crime drama, so much of it becomes that. It's all law and order. It's all, you know, it's all CSI. And with Jameson, I was frustrated enough about A&E, right? But then again, it's A&E. They're an entertainment company. It's what they do.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
The church is just the community center, and we're rich and important, and we need to be visible in the church. you know, if we were to lose the church, we'd have nothing. That's the attitude they carry. I mean, I am disgusted. Thank God Chris and Katie Proudfoot haven't said anything about Christianity. But I'm pretty sure Chris couldn't step into a church if he wanted to. I think he'd burn.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
You know the one thing that should tell me that you're wealthy is in a church? An engraved pew. When I go to church, I don't want to think about how much richer the person next to me is. First of all, that's not the point of Christianity at all. But like, you know, it shouldn't be a place where you're being seen. That's not the goal. And yet, what did the Ramses do for that memorial service?
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Their PR team made sure that the church was perfectly set up for the news crews. instead of going out the side door, they would have typically gone out for a memorial service. Oh, they had all the, they took advantage of all the parishioners. They took advantage of the congregation. They took advantage of the priest.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
They told the reverend, you know, the reverend, you know, it's like, he's like, all right, you know, let's, let's form up, you know, a corridor for the family to, you know, so that they can get out to their cars safely. Their motorcade that's out there, motorcade of luxury cars to take them to the airport so that a private jet could fly them to Atlanta. And so all of this is planned.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
There's going to be a corridor made of people. It's going to be this beautiful thing. And then their PR person told the media. Told them exactly where to be, exactly when to be there. Because it was all a setup. It was all to portray the grieving family. All along. There was nothing real about Patsy Ramsey. She'd been fake since the moment she was 13 and decided she wanted to be a pageant girl.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
I mean, everything in her life at that point, if you can look at her, you can listen to her talk. You listen to her mom talk. Everything in Patsy's life was pageantry. The whole thing through and through from the beginning to the end. And I mean, there's some disgusting stuff from Steve Thomas's interviews with Nedra where it's the time that you got to start him young.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Otherwise, they'll never be able to catch up. That's why John and seeing Patsy's like, no, John Bonet wanted to do it. yeah, when I was four, I wanted to be a pirate. My parents didn't buy me a galleon and send me off into the Bahamas. God, I wish mine did. I wish. It wouldn't sick. They didn't do it. Yeah. Um, yeah, they taught me like, Oh, John, he loves pageants. She loves doing them.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Their job is to present an interesting, compelling story that will get you to watch their channels. They can sell advertising revenue, right? There's all the people in the comments. You know, some people are talking about how they've seen the actual transcript. They have access to the actual transcript, something like that. There's Jameson.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Meanwhile, there's all these other accounts of her, you know, telling people she felt like she wasn't pretty enough at the age of six. Yeah, definitely a healthy environment to be raising a young girl. Oh, you're getting, I think at least one, potentially two of Nedra's interviews. Uh, Not this Friday, but next. Getting the Burke one, you're going to get the... I'm trying to get through.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
I'm going to do my best. And this may break down so that this episode's interviews and the next episode is evidence from this time period. We'll see how it goes. There is a lot of interesting stuff in those interviews. And I am very much looking forward to going through each of them. I wish... I wish the Ramseys were as stupid as the Proudfoots.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Because it would be very nice to just go and watch them say all of it, but instead with the Ramseys, I kind of have to deal with the versions the media has left up on the internet, and the versions that the police have released, and the versions the Ramseys have put out, so I don't get an unedited, unfiltered view of it.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
I mean, I gotta say, one person that I said I have nothing good to say about in Friday's video is Kluminati. I... which I would be a lot nicer clue if your thumbnails and titles weren't so unbelievably uselessly crude. I mean, you're talking here about, like, you know, I see people all the time, you know, oh, you know, you're going after a grieving set of parents. Like, that's not fair.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Meanwhile, the same people turn around and make fun of Seth and are just absolute dicks about him. I mean, fact of the matter is, Seth didn't have anything to do with the disappearance. Point blank. He didn't. It wasn't him. He has an alibi. He was not there. The only person who has no alibi here is Katie.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Absolutely. Absolutely. Seth, I will clean everything up and send it right to you. You just got to know where to send it.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
I got notes, I got transcripts, I got dates, I got times. So, you know, I can't say it's nothing that has not been put out there before, but I think when you put it all into one document, it becomes very clear.
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Saying who I now know to be she saying she has all 30 pages. And she'll she'll go through and see what she thinks. Well, Jameson's not law enforcement, never was. Jameson was a web sleuths user. who had an email exchange with Don Foster. Jameson is the one who I literally, as it turns out, she's bragging about it.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Well, I mean, as with all of the previous three, my goal is to be unbiased. I understand how funny that must sound after this episode, but I am trying not to tell people what to think, which is going to become harder as we get through the interviews. And what I'm going to have to do is start telling you just where there was a contradiction, where there was a lie from both sides. Um,
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
So just thought you should see this because what we're about to talk about is not happy. So here's some Archie for you. This is the happiness. This is the happiness that we're starting the day with. And then it's about to get sad. Would you like down or up? Here we go.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
No, my goal with this next video is for people to understand what happened between the Ramseys appearing on CNN for that first time and then finally stepping into an interview room with the police. That's what I want. That's what I want people to see.
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And I mean, as always with the whole case, what I want people to understand the way I have formed this way of constructed it is so that people understand what the police knew at what point and why they didn't know more. Because one of the tragedies of this case has been that a whole bunch of good police officers were thrown to the wolves. For no reason.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
So I want to, in some ways, I'm trying to help people understand why the case isn't the way it's been portrayed. You know, why Steve Thomas isn't a villain. Why James Kohler isn't a villain. Why Lou Smith is not a hero. Not that I have anything against Lou Smith. I think he was just blinded. He couldn't see past that naivety to think that parents couldn't do this.
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If you look at it, that's what he says over and over again. His parents couldn't do this. Parents couldn't do this. Parents wouldn't do this. Meanwhile, Steve Thomas is sitting there like it's happened 11,000 times since 1972. Did see an interesting notification earlier. I want to take a look.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Oh, thank you. I do enjoy the dollar dollar bills.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
you did not hear that not there was something about the kitty cat murders that came up what was it he's essentially criticizing the fact that most true crime podcasts generally along the lines of uh the content is for the bills yeah so that is i thought he was saying get those dollar dollar bills on our end from the super chats now uh yeah so yeah uh not thank you then you know i see where you're coming from and uh you know i should pay more attention to super chats they're being read rather than allowing myself to get distracted by somebody uh saying that um
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
there are photos of Jameson inside the house with Lou Smith.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Interesting. So yeah, sorry. That was what I wanted to look at. And so I only half heard you read the super chat. No, but that's why I was like that. I was like, I remembered something on my phone came up. That was important. That's what it was.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
No, yeah. It's frustrating that a lot of channels get into it for the money. And when there's no money to be had the attention.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
yeah for us it was always just about telling some cool stories yeah like that's that's why we started i don't know how we got here you got a history degree i got a film degree and then the universe was essentially like you're gonna talk about crimes dude for like two years we were actively avoiding true crime yeah And then there were a couple that came up that were just like, wait, just a minute.
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That was the one I think that did it for me. What I really think brought us into this sphere was the smiley face killer stuff. Yeah, because that was people think this was an accident. Was it actually a crime? And then that turned into it. Yeah, it was a crime. It was definitely a crime. You think we'll ever finish that series? I plan to. I...
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
I want to go back and do another deep dive into Tommy Booth with the case file now that I have it. But I also want to... Tommy's mom said that she could potentially get us in contact with some of the other moms. So I wanted to go and take some time to sit down. And in order to do that without it feeling like we were just rehashing stuff, I wanted to give it some more time.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
She's like, well, I got Don Foster to say that I was the killer and that blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, well, you were deliberately misleading him to make him believe that you were.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
But I would like to go and sit down and actually do interviews with people and redo those so that they're a little bit more in-depth. And I feel like I know more now, too.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
I see it as very unlikely that a child who has the needs he has would survive being trafficked. So I don't think so. I don't think he would be able... If he was trafficked, I think it's... He's never being found if he's been trafficked. Because I just don't think that... I don't think he would last. Now, what are the chances that's what happened? In my opinion, pretty low.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
I think it's more likely that he was abducted in the stash with the family. That was what I thought was the most likely up until a couple of months ago when it became clear to me that it'd be hard to hide a 15-year-old kid that long, especially one who has to go to the doctor as frequently as Sebastian does.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
At this point, unfortunately, I think the most likely outcome is that he is no longer with us. And I still feel that Chris Proudfoot is directly responsible in some way. But hey, Chris, Seth's here. Where are you? Seth wants to come on the show. I'll have him. If you want to come on the show, I'll have you. Where are you?
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
So, yeah, I can see how that might have happened over the course of these Internet exchanges you had because you were trying to convince him you were somebody you were not in order to discredit him, which completely discredits you, not him.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Oh, Ramsey. Really? Oh my God, yes. Tell me why. The level of just deliberate... misdirection in the Ramsey case and the extent to which it was entrenched within the Boulder justice system is mind boggling.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
I mean, as far as I'm aware with Sebastian Rogers, we don't have the deputy district attorney delivering letters on behalf of the defendant to the state investigative investigative agency telling them, Hey, don't do that. Like, There was... With the Ramsey case, it wasn't the justice system versus the Ramseys.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
It was the police versus the justice system who were actively running cover for the Ramseys.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Yeah. I mean, D.A. Hunter coming out and saying that, you know, they weren't going to indict, despite the fact that's what the grand jury wanted to do. I mean... And remind me again how long that information was sealed? Like 13 years or something. I mean, Hunter, who very well knew how bad it looked for the Ramseys. Just for some reason.
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Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Maybe. Maybe one day. Maybe he's part of this. Oh, he gets introduced soon. You guys haven't been introduced to Alex Hunter yet in our series.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Hofstrom was rough? Oh boy. Oh, I'm not going to be nice to Hunter.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
And that was my thought, too, is like this random woman who has nothing to do with the case who lives in North Carolina. Just decides, you know, she's qualified to start interfering. I hit my.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
What are you thinking about? John. Oh, no, with John? Yeah, John's absolutely. I think that was more about the Rodgers shit. I was taking this both. But yeah, Ramsey definitely had the money. I don't think Chris Proudfoot is rich enough or intelligent enough to pull that kind of thing off. In fact, I think if he was smart, he wouldn't have talked to a single podcaster.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
If he's at all smart, he won't talk to me. But here's the thing. I'm not sure his ego will allow him not to. He's avoided us so far. He has. He has.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
See, here's what's great for me about this when it comes to Chris. I have a stepfather. I can't even recognize what I've heard about Chris as a stepfather. Cause mine was just nowhere near him. Like my stepfather did so many good things for me in my life. I sit here and I don't understand. Like, I'm like, how, how is a stepfather? Can you behave this way? I, I wasn't treated that way.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
funny bone it hurts it burns anyway uh she decides she's gonna start interfering in the case and you know playing games with the investigators and all this like faking her identity uh you know it eventually comes out that so far as i so far as i can tell there's no evidence that don foster ever actually did accuse her of this uh she claims you know that like there were like 50 email exchanges meanwhile only ever produces evidence of one email from don foster
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Nobody I know who has a step parent was treated that way. And there are people, you know, well, they are, he is a stepdad. Like, yeah, my stepdad treated me like I was his flesh and blood. Like, like I was born to him. There, there has never been a moment in my entire life for the 24 years he's been involved in it where I felt like I was not seen as a son or So I just don't get it with Chris.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Like, what is this behavior? Why do you talk about your stepson this way? And then also, I have an autistic little brother. I have experience with Chris Proudfoot's kind with this situation. I know what it's like to be in a home with an autistic child. I know what it's like to be in a home with a step-parent, with two step-parents. There's stuff that he can't lie about to me. Because I know.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
So we'll see. I don't think he's got... It's an interesting conundrum for him. The smart thing to do is to not talk to me. But if he doesn't, no balls. Coward. We'll talk to random true crime girlies with 15,000 subscribers because he thinks that he can control the narrative. But he's afraid of me. That's all I can gather from this. He's got to know we exist, right?
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I mean, also, the people who he does talk to are now talking about me, so... Are you scared? Are you a real baby boy? Are you scared, Chris? Do you need a blanket?
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Oh, I would love it. It would be chum and sharks, dude. He won't. He won't do it. He doesn't need that big truck for work. He needs it to feel good about himself because something else is real small. I'm telling you. You know why you're on wife number five? I think it might be because you couldn't perform enough. I think that might be it. That's why he got the truck.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
I mean, if I bought a truck for work, like I'm buying a Jeep Gladiator, right? I know that it needs to be above a certain weight. I know what is different between the years. You know, I know that some of them have a certain engine type that I might want. It's because I want a truck.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
You know the kind of guy who has a truck but doesn't know what year it is, even though it was bought in the last four years? A guy who wants a truck because something else is small.
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I mean, you're a physically small person, and you bought the truck because you wanted a truck. Yeah. This man has no need to compensate. Even though he is bite-sized. He is great in spirit. But not you, Chris. You're small in both manhood and manhood. Allegedly. That truck's never seen a speck of mud. See, this is the problem.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
This might be the only way that we can piss him off enough to come on the show.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
One. So what I'm sitting here seeing is, you know, all these different emails that she's talking about, sending out messages everywhere, making herself the center of attention. I'm sitting here going, oh, you're just a narcissist trying to stir the pot. You probably did send hit. There probably were 50 emails and you probably sent 49 of them.
The Lore Lads
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It's like an F three 50. A man should be durable and last a long time, but I doubt Chris does. I mean, we know he's bold and brash and belongs in the trash. Yep. You got to give a little context for the bold and brash bit. For those who are not within five years of being the age of 27. No, no, not even that.
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That, but also... Oh, yeah, Chris likes to go on and say he's blunt and he's brash and he's honest, like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, uses the same terminology over and over again. It means nothing. But bold and brash is a SpongeBob reference. Squidward is an artist and he makes something and he says, I call it bold and brash. And then the art critic's like...
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Bold and brash, more like belongs in the trash. So that's where that one came... That's a deep cut.
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I'm done being professional with Chris. Yeah. I mean, I'll be honest. I was surprised he went with the Navy, given his proclivities for women. But... That was more dig at you, Kellen. I'm sorry. That was a dig at our good Navy friend.
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Oh, boy. I can't remember what Chris's job was in the Navy right now. I know he was an E6. I think it had something to do with flight mechanics. He was a mechanic for aircraft or something.
The Lore Lads
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Me too. Kind of surprised he could find all the buttons in the plane.
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Also, I mean, you know, I thought with the Army and the Navy and the military and all that... You know, I think I'd like to see his records, like his disciplinary records. I don't think there will be much on there in the way of, you know, like domestic violence, because he seems very good at hiding that, except when he admits to it on TV and podcasts twice.
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But, you know, I wonder, like, I wonder how many times he was reprimanded for eating too much and not passing physical exams. Dude is chonky. He probably needs the truck because he can't even find it.
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And until I see further evidence that you didn't, I am going to believe that to be the case, because as I'm going through, you know, you have 30 pages of documents. They're all the transcript. We're all sitting here on Reddit trying to analyze a couple of screen grabs from an A&E documentary to try and see what it says on this piece of paper.
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Oh, yeah. No. He is I. That's not fat. That's just swelling from all the bullshit.
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But do you have that's we traffic in weird questions. There you go. We know trafficking that the right kind of trafficking, good trafficking.
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It's not. It's coming back in January. It is January. It's coming back the final Thursday of this month. Weird Bible returns on the final Thursday of this month. In fact, if you want to let me know in the comments, not the chat, the comments, what some good Weird Bible topics would be, please do. Stuff you're interested in. But really, I think the NASB is a solid one.
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Modern English, Literal Translation,
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easy to read and as far as the modern English translations go it's very accurate I will say if you're in for a little bit more of a challenge you don't want to deal with necessarily all of the early modern English but you do want a very literal translation the Lexham English Bible is awesome it is all online you can get it for a free app and it's got a bunch of really great study tools too nice
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The two girls who went missing in Panama, I believe I remember from Mr. Ballin episode. Okay. The other two, however, no. Unless the Swiss village one, it might be... I know there was a missing 411 about that where it turned out to not be nearly as weird as it was portrayed to be. Uh, shocker. Um, But Hinterkaifeck, no. Let me look that one up and see. What would that be? How was it spelled?
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Also, the Hinterkaifeck murders occurred on the evening of 31st of March, 1922, when six inhabitants of a small Bavarian homestead located approximately 60 kilometers, 70 kilometers north of Munich were murdered by an unknown assailant. Six victims were Andreas Gruber, his wife, Katsila, their widowed daughter, Victoria, Victoria's children, and the maid.
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And you've got all of the documents and you just won't provide them. Oh, you got access to DNA analysis that hasn't been made public, but you won't present it. You've got Burke's interviews, but you won't present it. You've got all this information, and you'll show all of it when it makes the intruder theory look good. But anything we ask for that doesn't support the intruder theory, hands off.
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They were all found struck dead with a mattock, also known as a grub axe. Okay. Interesting. Interesting. The perpetrator or perpetrators lived with the six corpses of their victims for three days.
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That is the title of the very first chapter of the next episode. Is it really? Yeah, in the Ramsey case. That's phenomenal. Devil went down to Georgia. I love it.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
There's something that also might come up. How the way he talks in the interviews is almost as if he's telling someone it's okay. There's only one person he would tell it's okay to. Himself? No, Burke.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Yeah. Just misunderstood. Yeah. This one. Sorry, guys. I'm still getting over something.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
No, that was that's what the Ramsey said.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
That was John. In his interview, he said, we're not angry. We just want to move on. Right, right, right, right, right. The person he'd say the other two would be Burke.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Oh, I hadn't caught that one.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
uh indy for 199 says is susan bennett still on youtube but do you know no idea i haven't looked uh be clear i do mean these only the only susan bennett to which i refer is jameson yes
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
We don't get to see it. To me, that screams somebody is trying to... If you have all of this evidence, and she's firmly intruder theory, if you have all of this evidence, and you're firmly of the belief, after reviewing all of the evidence that you have, that it was an intruder, if that evidence points in that direction, why on earth would you hide it? Well, we know why.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Chris admitted that there was something that had happened with Sebastian. Yeah. Uh, which if I remember correctly was, uh, implied to be, uh, I don't know how to phrase this. Um, implied to be related to what Chris had allowed to happen to Sebastian in California when a 13-year-old boy did something
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
inappropriate Sebastian and, uh, charges were not pressed because the boy was under the age of, uh, because he was too young to be prosecuted for them. That just wasn't true, by the way. Uh, there was no law saying that 13 was too young to prosecute for a sex crime. Uh, and in fact, as of 2018, California does prosecute children, uh, under the age of 12 for sex crimes. Hmm. Under the age of 12.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Yep. Yeah. Can't be prosecuted for anything under the age of 12 except for five things. They're all sex crimes. I think Chris just didn't care. Wouldn't be shocked. So, yeah, I mean, Chris said to one of the interviewers at one point that there had been an incident with Sebastian and I guess a family member.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
He wouldn't say who, where some people like Sebastian just, you know, he tried to kind of like. He almost made it seem like, you know, this was something he had a feeling might happen if Sebastian was around when he It seems like the issue might have been that Sebastian just didn't realize what is and isn't appropriate. And it sounds like it might have something to do with his side of the family.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
So I don't know what that would have been. But the way Chris talks about Sebastian does not appear as a loving stepfather to me. I know what a loving stepfather looks like. Chris is not that.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
If I had gone missing at the age of 15, like legitimately missing, Christian would have turned over every stone.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
I mean, it wouldn't have been a... There would have been no question. He would have been out there every day. Chris didn't lift a finger. You're such a piece of shit, Chris. Yeah, it's sad. You go into a very special club with John Ramsey and Roberta Laundrie. Yep. Club is the we'll never see heaven club.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Oh, yeah. As we all know. What we do in the lodge is sacrifice babies to Moloch. That's definitely what we do, and it's not we argue over what we want to order for dinner and talk about finances.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Yeah, that's pretty much it. Yeah, these days, anyway. It's mostly a charity organization. Once you get a little higher up, people are like, oh, once you get higher up, they reveal the Satanism. And it's like, once you get a little higher up, it's a little bit more esoteric, and it's a bunch of old guys talking about, like,
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
philosophy and religion so basically any club ever yeah i mean people apply people do this weird thing where like the first three degrees are from this time period and then all the stuff they have a problem with is from a lot later and they're like well clearly the stuff that was added later is the real stuff it's basically fan fiction yeah like the first three or four are really the only ones that matter
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Because it doesn't point that direction. Exactly. Exactly. So, you know, this is this is my public call out for Susan Bennett. Jameson, I mean, you shouldn't have told everybody your real name in a bunch of posts, you idiot. You know, do the right thing. Drop the files. Maybe you haven't been called out hard enough by a big enough source. But Susan Bennett of North Carolina, that's not doxing.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Everything after that is not Freemasonry, it's Freemasons talking. Do I like all of it? No. Do I approve of all of it? No. There's a reason I'm not part of it. But that's kind of like saying, you know, I went to Penn State, therefore I must agree with Sandusky. Yeah, not a whole lot of logic there. There's a connection, but the connection is way back here.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
yeah uh so if i if i come to find out that like all that weird stuff about freemasonry is true and up at the top they're telling you god's name is jobulon and uh you know you like the the christian god isn't real and blah blah blah blah i will simply not take part in that or i will leave or more realistically knowing me i'll be like hey guys see all this explicitly christian material from the middle ages when we were founded
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Remember that oath I had to take? I'm making that stuff real.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
I'm bringing that back. Remember that oath you made me take when I signed up? So, you know, if Freemasonry does turn out to be something hokey up at the top, I will... You'll hear it from me first. I was going to say, are we going to get a Freemasonry... No, you would just get me very adamantly saying I'm no longer a Mason. Part of the oath. Yeah. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
See, the thing is, that oath was not me and the other Masons. That was me and God. Yeah. So unlike some people we've talked about tonight, I take my religion seriously. Hey, don't use it as a robe to make myself fit in.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
He is baby. So he'll get a few scratches. Anyway, I have just started working on the next JonBenet video, part four. I thought this was going to be a particularly long one-part video, and I was wrong. But I started working on part four today, and that was a little bit of reacquainting myself with what we'd already done. It's been a few weeks, but then also sort of jumping through.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
She published that. She also wrote a book called Murdering Jean Bidet in which she envisions how it might have happened. We're sitting here being told, hey, look at Santa Bill. His wife wrote a play that was based on a true story about a girl that died. They're guilty because of that. I've seen that exact line of argument made.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Okay. Yeah. I need to process everything I just heard. Yeah. Anyway, so yeah, Kellen, let me know.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
I don't even know where to start, man. Where do I start with lizard people? Start at the beginning. I guess you go back and find the first time people mentioned lizard people.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
just heads up tony matthias is in the chat saying seth will come on your show no questions asked oh sick yeah tony i could reach out to me on twitter you can shoot us an email at the lore lodge gmail.com i just give it just let us know what the uh what the best way to have that conversation is and we can get it set up i'll come up with a list of questions
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Hernias are one of my greatest fears. I would not like that. It would make me deeply uncomfortable. It's weird. When I'm thinner, you can see it. Ah, no. Don't tell me that because then I'll be looking for it over the summer. I want to see your intestines or whatever.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
It's not those inside. They're inside.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Oh, God. I am too sick for this conversation.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
But... I will say, everybody who's part of the Sebastian Rogers community there, who's in the chat, let Chris know. Let Chris know Seth has volunteered to come on. Yeah. No, I think it'd be great. I mean... Yeah, part of the reason that I can't let him know myself is that anytime I go into, like...
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
comment on one of these streams and be like hey why don't you come talk to us uh all of them are in subscribers only mode that's just crazy right it's almost like you're trying to keep dissent and conversation at a minimum yeah but hey he's blunt and he's brash We know where he belongs. All right. What is that one from? Is that Gom?
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
And then here's this Jameson person who knows everything everybody else doesn't somehow, who goes ahead and writes a play, and I'm supposed to ignore it? No, I don't think the play means anything in either case, but who is this person? Why do they think they have the right to be here?
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Bring it back. We'll try and have one, maybe one goofy stream. Also, that's what Lickerd Lore is, so if you go on Patreon, you'll see a great, great episode of Lickerd Lore.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
That's just a segment on Lickerd Lore or live that we do live?
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
oh boy could be fun that could be horrible so you know it gives you reasons for for them to still occur well nonetheless thank you all of you so much for being here yeah seriously it's it means a lot we're so glad that we get to do this as a career and that every once in a while we get to uh make an impact yeah and uh actually actually do some good for the world
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
That's the really weird part. We appreciate it. Nobody in town cares that we're wildly famous, and I honestly love it. Yeah, it's kind of great. Did I tell you I was... I did a couple of songs with my old band at Molly's a couple weekends ago.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Yeah, and I got off the stage, and I was actually wearing this exact shirt, which you can get from Bunker Branding. Bunkerbranding.com. Go to the Lore Lodge segment. But I hop off the stage, and she just holds up her phone to me with our YouTube page pulled up, just kind of looking inquisitively. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's me. Her friends were like, oh, my God, you should ask for a picture.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
And she was like, no, I don't want to. I was like, if you want a picture, I will post with you for a picture. I'm just a dude. He's just a guy. Literally, I was like, I'm just a guy. Yeah. That's great. Yeah. All right. Thank you, everybody, for being here. This upcoming Friday is a video about Missing 411. It is the beginning of the Pennsylvania Cluster. I get a little sassy. A little sassy.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
And then we're back with Jamba Day Part 4 the week following that. And haven't totally decided what I'm going to do after that, but it'll be... Probably a conspiracy theory or a cult or something like that. Maybe you'll finally get the Seekers. You'll have to read a whole book for that.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
I mean, I guess I don't actually have to, like, learn anything. I just have to, like, synthesize and report. Yeah. That'll be easier. That's nice. Okay. Let's do that. All right. So you'll get a cult in three weeks. There we go.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
I mean, every time we touch.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Thank you guys for being here. We will see you on the next one. Have a great rest of your night.
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When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
OK, OK. But Susan Bennett elsewhere, as in CBS 48 hours in 1998, apparently came out and said, I'm Sue Bennett. I'm Jameson. Because she was begging, begging to be let on to the not let on the grand jury, begging to be allowed to present to the grand jury. I mean, every single thing I've read about this, she also lied a whole bunch about her history. In what way?
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
I said that she was a victim of all these different things that eventually came out and admitted she wasn't. She just said that because she thought that's what people needed to hear. So a very reliable source. Clearly, this woman has narcissistic personality disorder or borderline personality disorder. It's got to be one of the two.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
I mean, as we know, I correctly identified this in an Instagram user who was convinced that smoking weed while you're pregnant is fine. Just a few days ago. What? Oh, yeah, I got into an Instagram argument with a woman who thinks that smoking weed or consuming weed while you're pregnant is totally fine and has no negative effects. Now, the entire medical consensus is that this is not true, right?
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
I mean, smoking anything at all. It could be grass, like literal grass. That's still bad for the baby. Cannabis? THC? There's a consensus on that one. It's bad. It's bad for fetuses. Like, you should not consume mildly hallucinogenic drugs while pregnant. That should be obvious. Anyway, this woman's arguing with me.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
And I'm just kind of pointing out how, like, she keeps, like, kind of hinting that, you know, yeah, you should go and say something about this. You should make a video. Go tell your 600,000 YouTube subscribers. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm sitting here like, well, I'm not going to do that because you have 1.5 thousand. followers on Instagram. I'm not going to punch down that.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Do I think you're a bad, dangerous person who should probably have a CPS visit? Yes. Am I going to bring the entire internet down on you? No, that would be rude. That would be mean. I will let CPS handle it. I didn't call CPS. I'm sure somebody else will. Point is... I was I kept saying you obviously have narcissistic personality disorder.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Otherwise, you'd be able to tell why everybody thinks you're absolutely insane. The fact that you can't acknowledge that you're wrong and you keep begging for more attention tells me that you have a narcissism issue. Turns out she's diagnosed borderline personality disorder. Yeah. So I was close. I was damn close. I. I think Chris is in the same boat, Chris Proudfoot.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
But my reason in bringing up Jameson and all this is because I feel like as I'm looking through it, Jameson is, you know, if you look back earlier before the Internet, you've got people would always, you know, you have people sending letters, calling in psychics, people claiming they did it, blah, blah, whatever.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
But it all got kind of funneled because it all went through to the police department and they decided what they told you. The Internet comes into play. The website Web Sleuths comes into play, which is apparently a lot older than I thought it was. That was like a mid 2000s. I guess it's late 90s. Web Sleuths comes into play. And then social media.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
And then suddenly crime is no longer something that is written about in books. It's no longer something that is talked about on news programs. It's not something that is, for the most part, isolated to the investigative department. It's something else. It's culture. True crime. Yet, you know, podcasts and TV shows and all sorts of stuff.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
Goes from 48 hours to Netflix has an entire series on the Menendez brothers. Netflix has an entire series on JonBenet Ramsey. And what it creates is an internet subculture where you have all these people who are out there and they're talking about it, they're getting involved.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
And when it stays on Reddit and TikTok and you basically got, you know, people like, oh, well, here's what I think about it. Sure. But something really weird happened with the Sebastian Rogers case. Something that I've never seen before. I've never seen the parents, the prime suspects as far as the internet are concerned. I have never seen them just go talk to YouTubers.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
And so what had been a, you know, if you look at true crime, yeah, there's some controversial stories out there. There's people on both sides of the aisle. And they'll talk about it. They'll fight. They'll have their little wars. But in this specific case, and the same goes for Jameson, because she eventually did get in touch with the Ramseys.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
And we're finally getting to the part that I feel like I am best at when it comes to this, which is the interview analysis.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
In this case with Sebastian Rogers, the Proudfoots first go on actual TV. And then they start going on these podcasts. And they're not huge. They're not going on Sean Ryan. They're not going on Rogan. They're not going on even this show. Even though Chris Proudfoot has a standing invite to come on the show and defend his position. These guys are going everywhere.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
They're going on 15,000 subscribers, 7,000 subscribers, 25,000 subscribers. Mostly female-led channels, by the way. Seth is everywhere. Seth's on male-led, female-led, big, small, TV, not TV, everywhere he can be. And I'm not saying I think Seth's a saint, but he sure as hell seems like he cares about finding his kid. Chris Proudfoot seems like he cares about controlling the narrative.
The Lore Lads
When True Crime Becomes Crime Drama | Podcast Episode 154
And you have a bunch of these YouTubers who I think maybe at the beginning they were well-meaning, but they allowed themselves to...
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
I don't know what you're going to say, but I can do the Kermit voice. Oh, yeah. You put it in the back of your throat a little bit, don't you? Yeah, you just have to put some... Oh, yeah.
The Lore Lads
The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
It's a combination of the back of the throat and a good enunciation in the front.
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
The eagle's defensive line is my daddy.
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
Thank you for checking in.
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The Most Convoluted Hoax We've Ever Seen | Podcast Episode 158
I'm just still not over it.
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When Children Go Missing... | Podcast Episode 155
Or maybe I did. There were 39 cases. I don't totally remember all of them off the top of my head right now. Point is...
The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
Scott’s Career Advice: Will AI Take My Job? Advice for Entrepreneurs, and How to Find What You’re Good At
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The Ramsey Show
It’s Our 2024 Annual Giving Show!
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The Ramsey Show
It’s Our 2024 Annual Giving Show!
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And he gave me a look, and that's when I started to realize how bad and serious this was. The rest of the day and the days after are a bit of a blur, but we found out, we know my dad was outside of the buildings when the plane hit, when the both planes hit. And he called home, and he left a voice message on the machine, and he told us how much he loved us and how things were really bad.
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It’s Our 2024 Annual Giving Show!
Um, he then went back in to help evacuate and save people that day. And he unfortunately was not able to get out himself or, uh, save himself. So things of course were very, very difficult for my family and many, many other families after that. But the giving and generosity that took place for my family and other nine 11 families was tremendous. was very, very incredible.
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And that was the first time I saw giving and generosity at such an extreme level. And as a 13 year old kid, I, I knew I wanted to be able to give like that someday. Many years later, um, I met my wife, my beautiful wife, and we struggled with infertility for many, many, many years. And I, Then that giving and generosity came back into our lives again with love and support and prayers.
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It’s Our 2024 Annual Giving Show!
And even our company that we worked for paid for all of our infertility treatments. Wow. IVF, the works, close to 50 grand. And again, that giving and generosity blew us away. And then a miracle happened, and we had... A beautiful little girl, our daughter. Her name is Journey. We named her that because it was a journey to have her through IVF.
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It’s Our 2024 Annual Giving Show!
And then another miracle happened, and we are currently expecting our second in the new year. Wow. Again, yeah, we have one on the way. Fun. And it just... it just blew our minds. And again, that giving and that generosity that kept coming into our life time and time again, when we don't deserve it. And, you know, things are just, it's just amazing.
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It’s Our 2024 Annual Giving Show!
And this summer coming up in the new year, we are celebrating our 10 year wedding anniversary and we're doing a big vow renewal. And we are taking all of our family and all of our friends, Turks and Caicos, and we're paying for the whole thing. We're doing, you know, the all inclusive resorts and, uh, The whole shebang. And that's our giving generosity story. Wow.
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It’s Our 2024 Annual Giving Show!
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You Need To “Happen” to Your Life Instead if It Happening to You
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You Need To “Happen” to Your Life Instead if It Happening to You
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You Need To “Happen” to Your Life Instead if It Happening to You
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You Need To “Happen” to Your Life Instead if It Happening to You
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You Need To “Happen” to Your Life Instead if It Happening to You
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You Need To “Happen” to Your Life Instead if It Happening to You
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You Need To “Happen” to Your Life Instead if It Happening to You
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You Can Make Progress Even When It Feels Impossible
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You Can Make Progress Even When It Feels Impossible
It's funky. My wife and I are next week. We are about to complete baby steps three. Okay. Super pumped about that. I'm confused on where to go next. So my wife is a nurse. She makes about 50,000 a year gross. And I am a professional athlete and I make about 200 gross. What sport? That has... I'm not really allowed to say what sport, but it's in the automotive world.
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You Can Make Progress Even When It Feels Impossible
Okay, all right. It's a little funky. Like I said, it's funky. Okay, all right. Keep going. We're tracking with you. My question here is, I know my next step here is to start the 15% college fund paying off the house. With my job... My salary and how long it will last is very unpredictable.
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You Can Make Progress Even When It Feels Impossible
And when I say that, basically the way my contract's laid out is X amount of money for X amount of years, but they have the ability to... Fire me, basically, if my performance goes bad or if I get hurt.
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You Can Make Progress Even When It Feels Impossible
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You Can Make Progress Even When It Feels Impossible
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You Can Make Progress Even When It Feels Impossible
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You Can Make Progress Even When It Feels Impossible
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You Can Make Progress Even When It Feels Impossible
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You Can Make Progress Even When It Feels Impossible
Maybe he's big famous. There's certain things in my contract where I'm not allowed to. There's some names and stuff that I'm involved with that are not allowed to be.
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Your Debt Should Make You Uncomfortable
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Your Debt Should Make You Uncomfortable
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Your Debt Should Make You Uncomfortable
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The Ramsey Show
Your Debt Should Make You Uncomfortable
No, I actually paid off all my debt in September. Okay, nice. So I'm completely debt-free. Cool. I make about $100,000 a year. Okay. Part of paying off my debt was I got a large settlement from my previous employer for a sale. So I have about $60,000 of that left over in savings. Some of that is going to be taxes, though.
The Ramsey Show
Your Debt Should Make You Uncomfortable
And then, you know, I'm contributing right now 10 percent to retirement because I am trying to save for a house.
The Ramsey Show
Your Debt Should Make You Uncomfortable
Probably two. I mean, really, probably 15 would be generous.
The Ramsey Show
Your Debt Should Make You Uncomfortable
So that'd be more towards 6,000 or six months, I mean.
The Ramsey Show
Your Debt Should Make You Uncomfortable
um how long do you think it'll take you to save up the down payment that you want um well i'm just trying to save up big i guess um i know that in august i'll be getting a retention bonus as well okay um so that should be about half a year salary so between that and then another 1500 a month or so going into savings i i would assume by the end of next year i will be in a
The Ramsey Show
Your Debt Should Make You Uncomfortable
comfortable spot to do, you know, 30 or 40% down on a home.
The Ramsey Show
Your Debt Should Make You Uncomfortable
Uh, I'm a lease manager. I work for an oil and gas company out here.
The Russell Brunson Show
From Stuck to Scaling: Transformative Advice for Entrepreneurs
Hey, Dante. Hey, Russ. Thanks so much for having me. Hey, man.
The Russell Brunson Show
From Stuck to Scaling: Transformative Advice for Entrepreneurs
So, I came on a few months ago. I've been in these calls a bunch. I had to miss the last few. Just life's been crazy, but crazy good. I realized I think I need to redo my offer. So I help players, I help high school basketball players get recruited to play college basketball. Und ich denke, dass meine Offer gerade nicht gut läuft.
The Russell Brunson Show
From Stuck to Scaling: Transformative Advice for Entrepreneurs
Im Grunde habe ich über 200 Athleten auf dem College-Level geholfen, über 100 auf dem Division-1-Fullscholarschaft-Level, einige haben NIL gemacht, einige haben über eine halbe Million Dollar in NIL gemacht. Ich dachte, es würde Sinn machen, einen 1.000-Dollar-Kurs zu verkaufen, aber je mehr ich darüber denke, desto weniger finde ich, dass es Sinn macht.
The Russell Brunson Show
From Stuck to Scaling: Transformative Advice for Entrepreneurs
Das Traum ist, sich zu rekrutieren, nicht zu lernen, um besser zu rekrutieren. Ich brauche dich zu verkaufen, um sich zu rekrutieren. So I've been working with this family one-on-one charging 1500 per hour. And I think that that could become the whole business.
The Russell Brunson Show
From Stuck to Scaling: Transformative Advice for Entrepreneurs
I could probably even raise the price because there's another person in the basketball information space that's selling their course on building confidence on the court for $3,000. And he's making money. And I feel like that's just... Du weißt, es ist eine gute Offer, ich werde mich nicht falsch machen, aber es ist, ich bin, ich bringe dich nach der Schule.
The Russell Brunson Show
From Stuck to Scaling: Transformative Advice for Entrepreneurs
Ich fühle mich, als wäre das ein größerer Verkauf. Und ich wollte nur fragen, ob du irgendwelche Ideen, irgendwelche Gedanken, irgendetwas hattest, wirklich, wie ich mich so nicht verloren fühle, aber hinter mir. Ja, ich denke, ich denke, du bist in der richtigen Position.
The Russell Brunson Show
From Stuck to Scaling: Transformative Advice for Entrepreneurs
Anyone that I worked with, no. That's why I realized, this is a horrible idea. I'm trying to sell a course to people that don't want to do a course.
The Russell Brunson Show
From Stuck to Scaling: Transformative Advice for Entrepreneurs
Ich habe einen großen Erfolg mit den Trainingsanrufen. Jeder Spieler, den ich anrufen hatte, ist aufgewachsen, eingeladen und bereit zu gehen. Wie alt ist deine Tochter? Sie ist im nächsten Jahr Senior. Okay, ja, das ist die richtige Zeit, um mit einem Rekruter zu arbeiten. And you paid $3,000? Okay. I'm going to just steal that, honestly. That's interesting.
The Russell Brunson Show
From Stuck to Scaling: Transformative Advice for Entrepreneurs
Did you go through NCSA or did you use someone else, Russ? So I'm looking right now actually.
The Russell Brunson Show
From Stuck to Scaling: Transformative Advice for Entrepreneurs
Tell them you're a young girl trying to play soccer. Your daughter is.
The Russell Brunson Show
From Stuck to Scaling: Transformative Advice for Entrepreneurs
Keep us in the loop as months go on.
The Ryan Leak Podcast
Quit Playing Small
The one I hear the most is, well, I just don't want to be self-promoting. Yeah, I just don't want to put myself out there. I don't want to be one of those people.
The Ryan Leak Podcast
Quit Playing Small
You already know what I'm going to say. You already know what I'm going to say. He has not posted a single one.
The Ryan Leak Podcast
Quit Playing Small
If you've already rehearsed the pitch, just say it out loud in the meeting.
The Ryan Leak Podcast
Quit Playing Small
Show up because you believe you have something worth giving.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
You have to. But you also create margin for like, oh, this is happening right now, right?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Okay, but the idea that, like, that's the other thing, like, everyone knows this is happening.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Congratulations.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Two for two.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
That's right, two for two. Thank you.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Wenn jemand antwortet, bedeutet das, dass sie nirgendwo mehr zu gehen haben. Und sie werden dir etwas fragen und sie werden wahrscheinlich das, was du sagst, tun, also musst du richtig sein. Und so, ja, da ist ein Gewicht dazu. Aber der andere Seite davon ist, ich habe junge Kinder und ich versuche immer noch zu entscheiden, wie ich mit ihnen verheiratet werde.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Great married sex for three minutes in a hotel bathroom. You can't while your kids are asleep. You can. And you can also plan. Hey, Grandma, I need you to come take the kids because we're going away for a weekend and we're going to breathe. We're going to exhale and we're going to be no diapers, no bottles to wash. Nothing. Right. And both of those things are real.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
And it's getting underneath the what do. Und das ist der Teil, den ich zurückgezogen habe. Und ich habe es noch nicht, ich denke es noch nicht so genau. Ich habe es vielleicht in ein paar Monaten falsch gemacht, aber ich denke, wir verwenden das Wort Bedürfnis. Ich denke, wir sind mit dem Wort Bedürfnis verabschiedet.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Weil wenn ich dir sage, dass ich das benötige, habe ich mein Wohlsein in meinem Leben auf dich gelegt. Du musst mir dieses Ding geben, oder du gibst mir nicht, was ich brauche. Und Bedürfnisse, wir brauchen Futter und Wasser und Öl. Das ist das, was wir brauchen. Es ist eine viel schrecklichere, viel vulnerabler Sache, zu sagen, ich will. Weil du sagst, ich will nicht.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und jetzt müssen wir diese Konversation haben. Aber eine der meisten komischen Fragen, die ich bekomme, ist, wie kann ich meine Frau auf eine Chore-Liste nehmen? I want her to want me. I want her to desire me. But if I'm walking around all the time saying like, I need sex and I need to have like four times a week, then you go on a chore list, man. I've got to take care of this.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
I've got to take care of this. I've got to turn these reports at work. I've got two kids I've got to prepare snacks for. And then I've got to get my husband off. You go on a chore list. When you tell her, I want you. I love you and I miss you and I want you. Well, that's a totally different question. That's an invitation. And that's how you end up with, here's what my schedule looks like.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
And here's what you can do to help. And then most guys are taught in a locker room, abs, money, and like, yeah. I've never in one time heard in a locker room, Sunday afternoon or Sunday evening, like calendar time, is like the hottest aphrodisiac in the world. Or not owing anybody any money is pretty amazing. Or helping with the dishes or just washing the bottles.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Then you start to give that sense like, oh, he's safe, he sees me, he knows what I'm working through. He's a part of this thing. Oh, I think you gotta like that guy. The whole ecosystem shifts.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Also, du kannst alle klinischen Sachen in der Welt kennen, aber es gibt auch eine Realität dazu. Und so bin ich viel interessiert in, ob die Leute fühlen, als ob sie einen Platz auf der Bar holen können und nur sprechen, als ob es richtig ist.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ich habe es nicht entdeckt, aber sie hat es gesagt. Sie hat gesagt, wenn ich dich verheiratet hätte, würde ich dir nie sagen, nein. Geh zu deinen Gesprächsveranstaltungen, geh zur Comedy-Nacht, was auch immer. Und sie sagte, John, wir haben genug. Und ich hatte keine Psychologie für diese Worte.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und als ich mich darin befasst habe, und ich meine, nicht, um alles schwarz zu machen, aber die männliche Suizidrate, es war eine Erklärung für mich, fast 20 Jahre nach der Geburt. Oh, sie will mich. Ja. Nicht diese Sachen, nicht diese Welt, die ich für sie bieten kann. Sie will mich. Und ich wusste nicht, was das bedeutet. Ich wusste nicht, wie man so aufstehen kann.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und ja, jeder Mann muss einen Job haben. All das ist immer noch wahr. Aber sie wollte mich. Und ich war das Problem da, weil ich mich nicht liebte. Und ich mochte es, dass ich Geld verdient habe. Ich mochte es, dass ich auf der Bühne bin und die Leute es liebten. Ich mochte es, dass mein Show erfolgreich war. Du willst mich nur umdrehen? Und ich hatte keine Psychologie dafür.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ich habe das ein bisschen öffentlich diskutiert, nicht viel, aber das andere, was damals passiert war, war, was ich als mein großes schmutziges Geheimnis war, was war, ich habe diese emotionale Gesundheit und Beziehung und ein Parenting-Show, das wirklich gut läuft, aber meine Tochter würde mich nicht hüten. Sie würde mir nicht näher kommen. Es war eine elektrische Sache.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und es war, seit sie wirklich jung war. Und meine Frau, ein paar Wochen später, es war in diesem gleichen Zeitraum, hat gesagt, ist es möglich, dass ihr kleines, kleines Körper dich als nicht sicher identifiziert hat? Und ich war überrascht. Und ich sagte, Alter, ich schwöre nicht, ich werde die Kinder nicht schlagen. Und sie sagte, nein, nein, nein, du bist ein toller Vater.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Hör mir nicht das zu sagen. Aber wir alle können das Nuklearreaktor in deinem Körper fühlen. Dass es immer etwas gründet. Und so zwischen dem, dass wir genug haben, zwischen dem, dass, nein, nein, nein, deine Tochter, sie will dich mit etwas im Welt, aber ihr Körper ist nicht sicher. Ich bin mit einem Therapeuten gesessen. Und du kannst dir vorstellen, ich bin ein...
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
ein Schmerz, um einen Therapeuten zu sein, richtig? Und ich habe einen neunmonatigen Gespräch angefangen. Der Junge und ich haben darüber gesprochen, was mir als Kind passiert ist, dass ich... Ich sitze da und sage meiner Frau, ich habe dich seit fast 30 Jahren kennengelernt und du wusstest nicht, dass mir das passiert ist, als ich ein Kind war. Entschuldige.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und es war so, es war so in der Wälder, richtig? Und so habe ich durch einige dieser Kindheitstrauma gearbeitet, durch einige meiner eigenen Dinge gearbeitet. Dann war es etwa neun Monate danach, als ich mit meinem Sohn kämpfte. Und die Worte kamen aus meinem Mund. Josephine, geh weg von mir. Ich lachte. Und ich stoppte einfach. Und ich war so, oh mein Gott.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Nein, ich bin ein menschlicher Dschungelgymne für sie. Und sie ist neun. Das war vor ein paar Jahren. Sie will überall verbracht werden, richtig? Aber es war ich, dass ich mit jemandem sitzen musste und sagte, Ich weiß nicht, was die Sache ist, aber ich mag es nicht, wenn ich mich im Schatten sehe. Und dann fängst du an, das anzunehmen. Und das ist in meiner Kindheit passiert.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und das ist passiert. Und das ist passiert. Und es gibt eine ernsthafte Heilung, die passiert. Es war großartig. Und jetzt gehe ich um, nur 50 Kilo leichter. Nicht wirklich, aber ja, nur die ganze Welt ist leichter.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Der erste, nein, weil ich ein bisschen ein Bulldog bin. Der zweite und dritte waren echt hart. Und der vierte und fünfte waren ein Schmerz. Ja, die waren echt hart.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ich dachte nicht, dass ich etwas auszudrücken würde. Es gibt keinen Grund, darüber zu sprechen. Ich gehe zur Arbeit. Ich bin erfolgreich. Ich bin ein guter Vater. Ich bin ein guter Mann. Ich will nicht darüber sprechen. Der große David Kessler, ich denke, er ist der Weltmeister des Schmerzes, sagt, Schmerz braucht einen Beobachter.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Jede große Glaubens-Tradition für die ganze Menschheitsgeschichte hat eine Sache, eine Art von Sache, die sich nennt Verabschiedung. Wir haben das verändert in, erzähl uns alle die schlechten Dinge, die du gemacht hast. Das ist nicht die Grundlage der Verabschiedung. Die Grundlage der Verabschiedung ist, oh ja, du auch. Es wird beobachtet. Es ist passiert. Ich habe mich wieder heruntergelassen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und es gibt etwas Heiliges in dieser Interaktion. Und dann gibt es einige Dinge, die man machen kann, um einige davon zu erweitern. Aber ja, es war furchtbar. Es war furchtbar. Besonders für einen Mann, der alle... Ich habe zwei PhDs, Alter. Ich habe alle akademische Sachen. Und das, was ich nicht getan hätte, war, sich zu sitzen und zu sehen. Und sie zu kennen. Ja.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Es ist eine von zwei Dingen. Entweder du wimmst mit dem, weil du nicht die Gelegenheit hast, deine verabschiedete Situation zu verlassen, oder deine nackte Situation, oder vielleicht ist es nicht Gelegenheit. Wenn ich verliere, weiß ich, dass ich eine Single-Mom werden werde und wir werden drei, vier Jahre in der Poverty bleiben.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Der einzige Weg, wie ich es beschreiben kann, ist, dass der Nuklearreaktor weg ist. Ich werde immer noch frustriert. Ich werde wütend über Dinge. Ich werde enttäuscht oder was auch immer. Ja. Aber diese verwandte Angst, die in einem Kind sitzt, der getötet wurde, als er jung war, ist weg. Ja. Ja, und das geht einfach durch.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und es dreht sich wieder auf, jedes Mal, wenn ich, weißt du, dein Körper setzt kleine GPS-Pinsel in Dinge, die passieren, wenn du ein Kind bist, richtig? Und es hat ein Alarmsystem, es geht immer auf. Und es passiert immer noch, aber jetzt weiß ich es. Und jetzt habe ich einige Schritte, um Dinge zu behandeln.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und für Weihnachten dieses Jahr habe ich meine Frau gefragt, okay, was ist das eine, was du willst? Und sie ist so, würdest du zurücksehen? Und ich war so, oh, wir sind zurück, oder? I did a marriage event in October, like a weekend retreat in Nashville. And then we did it again for Valentine's Day weekend. And I was reviewing the notes in Valentine's that I had written for October.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
And it's like two days, it's like seven keynotes. It's a long weekend. And I called my wife from work and I was like, hey, was I not okay during October, like October, November? And she's like, no, right? She's like, so I told you to go see. So it happens. It happens and new things happen. And you said this best. When you have a kid...
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Das Verheirat, das ihr alle seit sieben Jahren hattet, ist vorbei. Es ist vorbei. Das Verheirat ist vorbei. Wir können es machen, wann auch immer wir wollen. Wir haben Geld, um das zu machen, was wir wollen. Es ist vorbei. Und es war großartig. Und ich denke, die Leute haben keine Sicht darauf. Dieses neue Leben wird auch großartig sein, aber wir müssen entscheiden, was es ist.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und dann hattest du ein zweites Kind. Neues Welt, Mann. Und dann hattest du ein drittes Kind und ihr spielt in der Zone, anstatt Mann zu Mann. Neue Beziehung. Wir haben eine neue Beziehung jedes Mal. Wir hatten eine neue Beziehung, als ich versucht habe, in der Gradschule zu gehen. Wir hatten eine neue Beziehung, als ich meine großen, faszinierenden Hochschulabschlüsse bekommen habe.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und dann hatten wir eine neue Beziehung, als mein Sohn sagt, Dad, du bist nur ein YouTuber jetzt. Because it's a new world, right? And so now it's become my favorite thing. It used to be a desperation to hold on. Like, I just want to get back. I just want to get back to. Now my favorite thing about being married is, we get to build whatever we want this year. What do we want it to look like?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
And that has become my favorite part of the year.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Okay, ich zeige dir den Grund dafür. Ich war in der Bildung und hatte eine Konversation mit dem Dean einer Geschäftsschule. Und er war mit meinen Mitarbeitern zu sprechen. Ich habe ihn mit den Mitarbeitern getroffen. Er ist ein guter Präsentator. Und er hat über seinen Familienstrategieplan gesprochen. Und ich war so, oh Gott, das ist so dumm. Ihr seid so verrückt.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Es ist also einfach, jemandem zu lehren, dass du es brauchst, weil ich es nicht kann oder ich es nicht kann. Der andere Seite davon ist, dass wir alle von unseren Gefühlen getrennt sind. Das ist wie die kulturelle Luft, die wir atmen. Wenn es nicht X, Y und Z fühlt, dann hat es seinen Weg. Oder du solltest jetzt fertig sein. Und du solltest immer eine bestimmte Art fühlen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Auf behalf of my staff, I was like, why don't you have a strategic plan with your family? And he said, how many years do we spend in our businesses? Two-year plans, five-year plans, ten-year plans? And he goes, and it doesn't matter. But with our families, we just expect those to happen. Und ich habe gesagt, okay, du hast mich getroffen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und so würde ich es wahrscheinlich nicht als strategisches Plan nennen, aber erzähl mir mehr. Und er hat gesagt, jedes Jahr kommen wir zusammen und wir haben Familienwerte geschaffen, die wir auf der Wand unseres Hauses halten. Und statt zu sagen, du hast deine Mutter nicht respektiert, geh raus.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Jetzt habe ich meinem Kind nur erzählt, dass es eine Linie gibt, wenn ich von dir aussteigen werde und du nicht in meiner Präsenz sein kannst. Das ist das Schlimmste, was ein Vater zu einem Kind tun kann. Oder wir haben eine Reihe von Familienwahlen. Das ist, wer wir sind. Und weil du mit ihr gesprochen hast, hast du fünf Minuten ausgewählt. Nimm das nicht. Das Haus funktioniert ohne dich.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und jedes Jahr kommen wir zusammen und besuchen, welche Werte sind das? Sind wir noch da? Und meine Frau und ich haben es schon lange genug gemacht, dass es ist, was denkst du, hast du dieses Jahr gut gemacht? Wie habe ich dich erlebt, das war großartig dieses Jahr? Und dann sind die schrecklichen Sachen wie, okay, wie hast du mich als Schwester gesehen? Wie hast du mich als Schwester erlebt?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Wie hast du mich als Vater erlebt? Und wenn du weißt, dass wir auf dem gleichen Team sind, dann ist es ein Stein, der ein Stein schärft. Es ist nicht, dass du weinst und weinst, sondern es ist Verantwortung und Liebe und Verbindung. Und ich habe gesehen, dass du dieses Jahr wirklich kämpfst.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Well, in fact, we just redid them and I sent them to an artist in Nashville. And he's painting them real big. Yeah, they'll go right in the middle of our living room.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
That's awesome.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Right in the middle, I mean in our dining room where we eat. But yeah, this is who the Dolonys are. This is what we want people to feel when they come into our house and when they leave our house. And it's awesome. But it's all of us deciding, this is who we are. And this is who the Dolonys are going to be.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Yeah, yeah. And in fact, this time we brought along my daughter. She'd never been a part of it. And she kept saying kind of out there stuff. And then she was articulate enough to say, y'all keep skipping mine. And so I wanted it to be like a good strategic plan, get down to like five core values. We ended up with like 17, which is way too many.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
But what was more important for her and for my son, they see themselves represented in this thing too, right? And good grief. That's awesome, right? But it creates a context from which we operate. So when I'm tired and I don't want anybody like... Also, jeder ist willkommen bei der Delaunay-Haus. Ich kümmere mich nicht darum, wer du bist, du bist willkommen bei meiner Haus.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und mein Vater war ein Homosexuell-Detektor. Jeder ist willkommen bei meiner Haus. Ich kümmere mich nicht darum. Und es ist ein Erinnerung für mich. Also, wenn ich sage, diese Person ist verrückt, dann wird mein Sohn sagen, das ist nicht so, wie wir sind, Vater. Und ich sage, du hast recht, Alter. Sie sind furchtbar, aber sie sind willkommen bei der Haus. Also, es ist gut.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Jeder hat eine Stimme in ihm.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Hospitality is a big thing. Curiosity over judgment. Instead of saying, hey, that's stupid, it's the question that we constantly come back to is, tell me more about that. Or, I don't see it like that at all. I'd love to hear how you got there, right? Which is just a more welcoming way to talk about things.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und ich denke, das ist schreckliche Beziehungsvorschläge, schreckliche Arbeitsvorschläge, schreckliche Freundschaftsvorschläge. Gefühle sind nur ein Alarmsystem, Mann. Aber dein Job ist nicht, dir die Wahrheit zu sagen. Dein Job ist es, dich sicher zu halten. Und manchmal fühle ich mich, ich mag meine Frau nicht heute. Ich liebe sie und ich werde die Welt für sie zerstören.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
And my instinct was to be like, dude, you're 14, shut up. But even I caught myself and I was like... That's a bold statement for a 14-year-old. Tell me more about that. And as he explained it, he got to the end and was like, that doesn't even make any sense, Dad. I don't even know why I said that. But it was a good, he got to get there, right? That's a big one. Dignity and respect.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
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Like, just talk to people kindly. Like, treat each other with respect in the house. Those are some of the big ones.
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Ich werde die Gäste des Heils für sie zerstören. Aber ich bin überrascht. Und das bedeutet nicht, dass mein Verheirat vorbei ist. Und das bedeutet nicht, dass wir andere Leute sehen müssen. Es bedeutet keine dieser Dinge. Es bedeutet nur, dass ich heute nicht gut fühle.
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18 Monate her, als ich Bücher gezeichnet habe und du hast das, wie du Sachen gezeichnet hast und es ist nur eine große lange Linie und du grüßt Leute, die dir Fotos nehmen und jemand fragt ruhig, ist die Beziehung immer noch wert? Und ich habe sofort gesagt, dass meine Frau und ich, und sie sagt, nein, nein, nein, ich weiß, dass deine Beziehung funktioniert. Ist es immer noch wert?
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Die neuesten Forschungen kamen am letzten Tag heraus, dass 25- bis 35-jährige Frauen mehr Geld verdienen als Männer in dieser Demografie. Die Welt ist geändert. Ökonomisch ist die Welt geändert. Wie es früher war, wenn du eine single Mutter warst, gab es ein bisschen... Jetzt kannst du tun, was du willst, richtig? Und so ist diese Institution, ist sie immer noch wertvoll?
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Und diese Frage hat mich beschädigt, weil ich konnte nicht auf sie schauen und die Daten ausdrücken. Was sind die finanziellen Ergebnisse? Was ist der Sex und Intimität? Was ist der langfristige... Ich hatte keine Daten. Und das ist, worauf ich über die letzten 18 Monate wirklich besorgt bin. Es geht um ein Rappen. Ist es eine Institution, die ihren Kurs runnt? Spoiler Alert. Nein.
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In der Tat, ich denke, es ist vielleicht der letzte Bindungsagent, den wir haben, einer Kultur.
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Ich glaube,
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Und die gefährlichste Demografie in der menschlichen Geschichte sind alienierte, quasi-Junge Männer. Sie werden das Gebäude zerstören. Richard Reeves schreibt so wunderschön. Er hat ein Buch namens Boys and Men. Ich denke, jeder Mensch sollte das Buch lesen. Aber im Grunde habe ich eine junge Tochter. In einem Versuch, sie aufzubauen. Und übrigens, meine Mutter, das ist nicht lang.
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Meine Mutter war nicht erlaubt, eine Checking-Account zu bekommen. Ohne mein Vaters Signatur. Das ist nicht 100 Jahre. Das ist meine Mutter.
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Ja. Und ich will jeden Tag, Ich will das Lernverhältnis, ich will alle pädagogischen Forschungen, ich will alles. Also wie kann ich meine Tochter aufheben? Ja, aber wir haben es durch kleine Jungs auf dem Boden verbrannt. Und jetzt haben wir eine Generation junger Männer, deren Arbeiten von der Technologie übernommen worden sind, von denen es gesagt wurde, dass sie 0 waren.
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Du als Mensch ist etwas gebrochen in dir. Wenn du wickeln und bewegen willst, wollen wir dich in einem Sitz für acht Stunden sitzen. Wenn du wickeln und bewegen willst, ist etwas falsch mit deinem Gehirn. If you talk too much, there's something wrong with your character. If you want to prove yourself, there's something toxic about that, right?
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We just told little boys, there's something wrong with you. And then they get to a certain level and you don't have any opportunity anymore, man. Unless you want to go do stuff that you weren't trained to do. And so, yeah, it's a frightening layer that we're sitting on right now.
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Ich denke, das geht bis dahin, dass wir die leiblichste Generation der menschlichen Geschichte erschaffen haben. Ich weiß persönlich, ich bin ein emotionaler Typ. Ich bin viel, richtig? Die meiste Zeit brauche ich einen weisen Berater in meinem Leben. Ich habe eine Gruppe von Freunden, mit denen ich seit 30 Jahren Freunde habe.
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Reeves macht einiges, er geht bis dahin, er ist ziemlich wissenschaftlich. Junge Mädchen sind für kleine Jungs. Eines der Dinge, die er vorstellt, ist, dass Jungs ein Jahr später in die Schule starten müssen. Und damit gibt es mehr. Matt, du hast das gemacht.
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Ja, das ist unglaublich. Ich war auch ohne Diagnose mit ADHC2 und ich wurde nur gesagt, um es herauszufinden, was gut ist. Aber ich war in der letzten Generation, bevor sie die Rezession, die Athletik, die Kunst entfernten. Und sie haben alle diese Outlets entfernt, die nur bestimmte Gehirne sind. Und sie haben gesagt, du wirst diese Fakten memorieren und sie wirst sie auf einen Test spüren.
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Und wir werden diese Metriken benutzen, um dir zu sagen, wie klug du bist. Und wir haben einfach eine Crew auf den Boden geworfen. Und ich denke, dass es für die meisten von uns realistisch ist, dass man einige der alten Sprachen benutzt, um zu verändern, was es bedeutet. Ich denke immer noch, dass es wichtig ist, Männern zu bieten und zu schützen.
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Aber in diesen Häusern ist es vielleicht nicht so, dass sie einen Dollar anbieten. Vielleicht bieten sie die Unterstützung auf dem Haus. Vielleicht bieten sie ein Hörsaal und emotionale Stabilität. Und wenn du diese Fähigkeit nicht hast, Wenn du einen Job als Roofer hättest und du weißt nicht, wie du das machst, würde niemand sagen, oh mein Gott.
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Sie würden sagen, okay, cool, hier ist, wie du es tust. Und so habe ich kleinen Jungs beigebracht, wie man die Dinge bietet, die in der Heimat nötig sind, wie man sie schützt. Das war früher große Muskeln. Und ich habe mit MMA-Teams getrainiert. Ich verstehe es. Mein Vater war ein Polizist und ich bin wach. Ich bin ein Texan, um Gottes willen. Und die Schutz in meinem Haus jetzt ist.
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Ist, kann ich meine Weihes Geist und ihr Herz und ihre Träume verteidigen? Kann ich ihre Emotionen verteidigen? Wie, wie, anstatt sie einfach zurückzukommen mit einem meiner Psychologien Antworten, kann ich einfach aufhören zu hören? Weil, übrigens, sie ist klüger als ich, richtig? Verteidigung und bieten sieht jetzt anders aus. Es ist ein Fähigkeitsproblem.
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Anstatt dass wir es in diesem großen Charakterproblem machen. Du, es ist ein Fähigkeitsproblem. Lass uns kleinen Jungs lernen, wie zu hören, wie ruhig zu sein und sie nicht zu sagen, dass sie schlecht sind, wenn sie nicht ranrennen wollen, richtig?
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Und ich habe Männer in meinem Leben, die zehn Jahre vor mir sind, die verheiratet sind und Kinder erbringen. Und ich muss also jemanden haben, den ich rufe und sage, hey, ich habe das gesagt. Und meine Frau, mit der ich seit 23 Jahren bin, reagierte so. Bin ich verrückt? Und sie werden sagen,
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Und ich denke, du bist wirklich nah an der Zeit, als du zwei, drei, vier Jahre alt bist, als die Jungs die Botschaft bekommen haben, oh, es ist etwas falsch mit mir. Versus, nein, du bist fantastisch, du bist lieb, und es gibt einen Kontext dafür. In diesem Umfeld sitzen wir still. Und dann können wir gehen. Es sind beide Hände.
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That's it.
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Do you want the Instagram answer or the truthful answer?
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Okay, so I'll tell you this small story. The coolest part about going back to grad school after I was already like done with school and a professional was I had to do an internship again. So I'm the dean of students at a law school and I'm also a graduate student in counseling. So I had to go do another internship. And I worked under a psychologist, Dr. Gomez. He's a savant.
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Du bist bei Menschen, die tausendmal klüger als du sind und du denkst dir, oh Mann, dein Gehirn ist schneller als mein. Es ist großartig, richtig? Aber wir haben mit wirklich, wirklich traumatisierten Kindern gearbeitet. Und mein Sohn war wirklich jung.
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Und ich habe diese verweilten Parenting-Fragen immer gefragt, wie ich über die Kinder, mit denen wir gearbeitet haben, gefragt habe, aber ich wollte wirklich wissen, wie es mit meinem Kind geht. Und wir haben mit einem jungen Kind gearbeitet, der einige wirklich wilde Dinge sagte. Wilde Dinge über Frauen.
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Ich konnte nicht, ich konnte nicht, ich konnte nicht, ich konnte nicht, ich konnte nicht, ich konnte nicht, ich konnte nicht, ich konnte nicht, ich konnte nicht, ich konnte nicht, ich konnte nicht, ich konnte nicht, ich konnte nicht, Und ich dachte mir, oh, das tut weh. Er sagt, du kannst deinen Kindern was sagen, was du willst.
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Aber wenn du deinen kleinen Jungen lernen willst, wie du Frauen respektierst, dann respektiere deine Mutter. Respektiere deine Schwester. Wenn die Frau, die sich alleine im Restaurant befindet, weil zwei andere Leute nicht auf der Straße waren, und dein Essen eine Stunde zu spät ist, lass deinen Kindern das sehen. Lass sie sich fühlen, wie hungrig du bist. Und dann zeig, wie hart sie arbeitet.
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Und dann lass sie ihre Tipps drehen. Lass deinen Kindern das sehen. That teaches them how to respect women. So, to answer your question, you want to teach your kids emotional intelligence? Become emotionally intelligent. Work really hard on where I've got soft spots in emotional intelligence. I might get super angry. Somebody might withdraw.
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And I need that. Or that doesn't sound right, man. Y'all need to circle back. And so having somebody that I can call, it's the same as like going to the gym, right? Like it's good to have somebody either at the gym or somebody on your phone or somebody who used to be a college athlete. Like, hey, my knee's doing this thing. Is that right? And they'll be like, yeah, you're not injured.
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Somebody might snap or hold somebody in content, like think they're better than. Let's work on those things because our kids are just going to repeat their sponges. They're just going to repeat the world that they inhabit. And that's a tough, scary thing because I want to just have somebody, Teacher, teach them this thing.
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It's great, but they come home and the world is the world they come home to.
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Always do. Behavior is a language, man. What are you teaching your kid every day?
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Ja. Ich denke, es gibt einen Bereich darunter. Und ich denke, dass vor allem Männer sich in den, ich will ihnen zeigen, wie hartes Arbeit aussieht, ich will ihnen zeigen, wie Disziplin aussieht und all das ist gut, aber was fühlt sich ihr Haus an?
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And if they always see dad reading a book or always see dad scrolling or they always see dad yelling at the TV and the house feels electric, then they're going to grow up knowing those things were more important than me. And so they'll end up being a reverse. So what's important for me is my son to see how hard I work so that I can come home and be fully present.
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Und ich will, dass er weiß, warum wir das tun. Das ist, wie es sich fühlt, wenn es richtig gemacht wird. Und das ist, wie es sich fühlt, wenn es falsch gemacht wird. Wenn der Vater versucht, sich zu beweisen, weil der Vater sich nicht sicher fühlt. Und wenn der Vater versucht, auf einer Liste zu kommen, die von der Realität aus vollständig verabschiedet ist.
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Und ich bin so, ja, ja, ja, ich brauche jemand anderes, der mich besser fühlt. Er wird sagen, ich will nicht, ich will nicht, es fühlt sich nicht richtig an. Ich will das nicht. Wenn ich sage, Alter, wir arbeiten so hart. Einen Tag zuvor waren wir auf einer Reise aus dem Land mit Dave Ramsey und seiner Frau. Meine Kinder waren auch mit uns. Wir waren auf der Beach und sie töteten Stingrays.
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Es war eine Bananenreise. Das war dumm. Und mein Sohn war mit mir und wir hatten so viel Zeit, wir hatten Fisch und hatten Spaß. Aber ich habe auf Dave geblickt, der nur da sitzt, lacht und alles schaut. Und es waren mehrere Leute da draußen. Und ich habe gesagt, das ist der Grund, warum du so hart arbeitest. So kannst du so geniesslich sein, dass Kinder, wie euch, Stingray-Hüfte haben.
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Like you're doing squats again. Yeah, it's going to feel a little bit achy and awkward. You're right. You're good. Or yeah, stop what you're doing and go see somebody.
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Vergiss nie, wie das Lächeln aussieht. Das ist der Grund, warum wir so hart arbeiten. So können wir so geniesslich sein. And it's connecting those dots. You work really hard so that you can tip insanely, right? So when that waiter, like, hey Hank, you wanna have some fun at Christmas? Let's tip this guy at Waffle House 500 dollars. And be like, what? This will change his whole month.
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Let's tip him 500 dollars. Geh es ihm an. Und dann kommt der Junge aus dem Park und nimmt meinen Sohn ab. Das ist so, wie du diese Dinge in deinen Kindern entdeckst.
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They're total distractions.
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Es ist der Mom-Guilt-Industrial-Komplex.
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Okay, also ich denke, es ist das Dumpfen in den einen Bucket.
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Ich brauche meine Kinder, um zu wissen, es wird niemals ein Bildschirm wichtiger sein als du. Es wird niemals etwas wichtiger sein als du, außer einer Person. Deine Mutter. Ich habe sie gekauft. Ich habe mit euch zusammengearbeitet. Ich habe sie gekauft. Und ich will meine Kinder niemals fühlen wie... Ich denke, das ist ein Herausforderung, besonders für Moms.
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dass das Gewicht deiner Leistung als moderne Frau auf die Leben deiner Kinder hängt. Wie sie performen, wie sie es tun, wie sie sich aussehen, wie sie... Alles liegt auf dem. Und ich denke, wir zerstören Kinder unter dem Gewicht unserer Erwartungen von ihnen, um uns aufzupropfen. Oder sie sind eine Beratungskarte oder eine lebendige Beratungskarte.
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Und das, was ich mir immer erinnern möchte, ist, dass meine Kinder kein Votieren bekommen. Und wenn ich und ihre Mutter nicht gut sind, wenn wir nicht geschlossen sind, dann ist das das Schlimmste für sie. Wie außerhalb von Essen und Sicherheit und so. Aber sie müssen sich sicher machen, dass ihre Mutter und Vater geschlossen sind.
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Nobody tells parents that for about two years you're gonna have survival sex. I am wearing my nursing bra. You are wearing sweats. We got nine minutes. If we're gonna do this, we're gonna do this. The prevailing wisdom when I was a little kid was if you fight in front of the kids, you're gonna scare them.
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Ich habe eine Regel, dass ich nicht öffentlich über Dinge spreche, die ich noch in der Realität durchgearbeitet habe. Und diese Linie wird ziemlich blöd.
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So, since they were very little, when I walk in the door, the first person I make a beeline to is my wife. I need them to know she's the most important thing in my life. And that sounds crazy right now. Like even saying it's like, that's not what that's supposed to be like. I need them to know my entire being does not rest on you guys. Because y'all can't carry my weight. She can.
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She signed up for it. Y'all can't. And then when they see us that we're good, then... Und ich liebe es, meinen Kindern zu sagen, naja, mein Sohn ist älter und er hat es verärgert, aber meine Mutter und ich gehen weg und es wird großartig sein. Und ihr könnt nicht da sein. Und ich liebe das. Ich liebe, dass sie das wissen. Und es gibt ihnen Frieden. Okay, meine Moms Wellbeing bleibt nicht auf mir.
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Aber ich bin ziemlich offen darauf, was da passiert. Und dein Verheiratetum ist nicht seltsam, wenn du einen Kampf hast. Oder wenn dein zweijähriges Kind ein Tumor-Tantrum macht, oder mein neunjähriges Kind. Sie ist ein menschlicher Hurrikan. Und das ist das Beste an ihr.
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Ich bin immer schmerzhaft, wenn ich mit Eltern spreche, aber es sind meistens Mütter, die sagen, oh nein, meine Tochter, meine 16-jährige Tochter, sie ist mein bester Freund. Ich denke immer, Gott, hilf dem 16-Jährigen, weil sie nicht den Gewicht eines adulten Freundes tragen können.
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Es ist zu viel Druck, ja. Und die meisten von uns wuchsen in Häusern, wo wir Dinge hörten wie, wenn du das tust, wird dein Vater verrückt. Oder wenn du das tust, weißt du, dass deine Mutter... Und was das den Kindern sagt, ist, dass es deine Verantwortung ist, die Ärzte in diesem Haus emotional zu regulieren. Kein Kind kann das tragen.
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Und ich sage meinen Kindern immer, ihr habt nicht die Macht, mich verrückt zu machen. Ich habe das nicht ausgesucht. Ihr könnt mich frustrieren, aber ich bin wirklich vorsichtig mit meinem Sprachsprach. Und ich sage meinem Sohn oder meiner Tochter, mein Sohn wird älter, aber ich wähle mich, frustriert zu sein. Ich wähle mich. Ich wähle mich, wütend zu sein.
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Aber ich will nicht, dass sie denkt, dass sie die Macht hat, mich in meinen Emotionen zu kontrollieren. Das ist mein Job. Ich bin der Junge. Und das ist das, was mich ausbreitet. Alles, was ich sagen möchte, ist, dass die ersten paar Mal, wenn du mit deinen Kindern auf Reisen gehst, ja, du fühlst dich super schuldig.
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Und das ist nicht seltsam. Du bist nicht gebrochen. Es ist nicht so, dass etwas mit dir falsch ist. Und dann fühlst du das. Und dann gehst du das nächste richtige Ding machen, was ist, ein tolles Wochenende zu haben.
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Und ein Verlust in einem öffentlichen Forum ist kein Verurteilung von mir als Vater, oder was für ein verfehltes Verheiratetum und Parenting-Environment. Sie ist neun, Alter. Darum lassen wir sie nicht Zigaretten oder Bier kaufen. Weil sie neun sind, richtig? Und so, die Kommentare streichen den Kontext und die Menschlichkeit aus. Und deshalb sage ich einfach nicht, sie zu lesen.
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Es ist beides.
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Ich dachte mir, ist das der Rest meines Lebens?
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Es ist Winter und es ist kalt.
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Der Sonnenschein kommt wieder raus. Der Spring kommt.
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Bitte, Gott, starte, wenn du dich vor deinen Kindern vergleichst. Nicht unregulierte Loonie-Toon-Schreie-Matches. Die vorliegende Weisheit, als ich ein kleines Kind war, und das ist wie die kulturelle Luft, die alle atmen, war, wenn du vor den Kindern kämpfst, wirst du sie erschrecken. Mach nicht das. Geh, habe deine Vergleiche im Bett und komm raus.
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Und was es gemacht hat, war, dass es Kinder ermordet hat. Schau dir jetzt mal unseren politischen Diskurs an. Meine Generation ist aufgewachsen. Wenn wir etwas nicht stimmen, dann muss ich dich hassen. Es ist vorbei. Und was wir gemacht haben, war, dass wir eine Generation von Kindern ermordet haben, dass ihre Eltern nicht stimmen und trotzdem auf dem gleichen Team sind.
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Und es war so, oh nein, nein, wir stimmen total nicht. Du hast diese Situation völlig verletzt. Du warst mir schrecklich, du warst mir schrecklich, was auch immer. Ich bin stolz auf dich, ich bin frustriert, was auch immer. Wir lieben uns immer noch. Wir gehen nicht irgendwo hin. Und jetzt haben junge Paare ihren ersten großen Schlag, nachdem sie verheiratet sind.
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Und sie denken, ich glaube, das ist vorbei. Oder sie gehen zu einem Freund, der sagt, du musst ihn einfach verlassen. Nein, wir haben einen Kampf. Wir haben einen Kampf. Alle Beziehungen, alle von ihnen haben Zufriedenheiten. Besonders die, die die Leute kümmern. Und deshalb ist es wichtig, dass Kinder Zufriedenheiten sehen. Und es ist wichtig, dass Kinder ihre Eltern frustriert sehen.
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Und es ist wichtig, dass die Eltern, die sich lieben, diese Beziehung reparieren und wieder zusammenkommen. Und am selben Tisch sitzen und zusammen essen. Und all das ist wichtig. Und es ist furchtbar und frustrierend.
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That's a great answer for a two-year-old. We love each other so much.
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Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
and she can't put the towels away right like that's a thing right um okay so y'all y'all have had this experience i have a rule it's a personal rule you kind of know especially when you're doing like tv media like you kind of know what's coming so i have a rule if i get asked a question that i didn't anticipate i'm just gonna go with my gut and that makes everybody around me nervous but it's like i i don't want to sit there and spin and give some silly answer i'm just gonna go with my gut answer during um the covet somebody asked like
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
I was totally unexpected and it was on a news hit and they were like, so do you think something like with this and with this is going to cause all this damage? And I just wasn't expecting it. So I just answered from my gut and I said, I think what's really hurting kids, right? Kids are resilient. They're amazing resilient.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Was die Kinder gerade schmerzt, ist, dass sie in Häusern von völlig unregulierten Eltern verletzt sind, die wütend und furchtbar sind. Und sie wissen nicht, wie sie diese Worte laut sagen. Also denken die Kinder, es sei ihre Schuld. Und sie versuchen es zu lösen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Entweder indem sie klein werden, wirklich groß werden, versuchen zu singen und zu tanzen für ihre Mutter und Vater, die nur an diesen Bildschirmen festgelegt sind und verärgert sind und schreien und weinen und Politik. Und die Kinder können nicht ausgehen. And so I think the greatest gift you can give your kids is emotional regulation, right?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
There's been several times like I'm in a bathroom, like in a stall, like going to the bathroom. And some guy will come into the little stand-up stall next to me and look over. You know, you don't make eye contact. You look at the little tile square ahead of you. That's what you do. And they'll be like... Hey, bist du dieser Kerl? Und ich so, hey Mann.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Figure out what's going on inside your chest and what's really going on. And yeah, let your kids see disagreements, man. That's so good.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Das gibt mir Hämorrhoiden. Es tötet mich einfach, Alter. Es tötet mich einfach. Arbeit hart darauf, deine Default-Settings zu verändern. Sie sind noch auf meinem Team. Und wenn das schmerzt, werde ich versuchen, dass du nicht versuchst, mich zu schmerzen. Versus immer die Plätze suchen, wo Leute dich schmerzen versuchen. Es ist nur eine Default-Setting.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und dann, wenn jemand dich verletzt, ich sage es auf diesem Podcast, ich mache viel öffentliches Reden. Und das Schrecklichste in der Welt für mich ist, dass ich eine Begeisterung für Stand-Up-Komedien habe. Eine totale Begeisterung. Ich denke, sie sind wie moderne Propheten.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Sie sind die letzten, sie sind die letzten Künstler, von denen es keinen Filter gibt zwischen ihnen und dem Publikum, richtig? Alles andere wird gedreht und ausgeschnitten und überkleidet und was auch immer. Es ist einfach, du bist auf der Bühne und es ist live. Und so habe ich einen Comedy-Club-Writer auf der Runde meines Hauses. Und ich gehe immer. Und ich bekomme Freunde mit diesen Leuten.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ich liebe es. Und so habe ich gesagt, ich will einen machen. Ich will einen Set selbst machen. Ich habe es auf Instagram gelegt und es wurde verkauft. Mein Freund George Campbell, wir haben es gemacht und es wurde sofort verkauft. Ich war so, oh Gott. Und dann haben sie ein zweites Show gelegt und es wurde sofort verkauft. Ich war so, oh Gott. Oh nein, das passiert.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und so habe ich wirklich hart gearbeitet, um mit etwas komischem zu kommen. Und ich sage nicht nur, dass ich dir sagen würde, dass es gut ging. Oh, es ging gut. Und ich war nie mehr nervös im Hintergrund. Sie lachen mich an. Sie waren wie, wer ist dieser Kerl? Weil ich nie, nie nervös war. I was so puckered up, y'all. I may go to the bathroom again like in 2026. I was so puckered up.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
And I was like, oh gosh, oh gosh, oh gosh. It happened. It was awesome. It went great. It went way better than I thought.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Sie war da.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ja, okay, also das Einzige, was mehr vulnerable ist, als du auf der Bühne zu sein, ist, dass dein Partner im Publikum ist und sagt, oh Gott, das ist tankend. Es war nicht so, es war großartig.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Keine Telefone. Keine Telefone. Weil das sind die Jokes. Diese sind alle die Dinge, die ich nicht kann. Ich versuche, dass meine Eltern meinen Show anschauen können. Und ich versuche, es zu halten. Ich weiß nicht. Und so waren das die Jokes, die ich wirklich lustig finde. Und in den meisten Comedy-Clubs ist es immer noch heilig. Also keine Telefone. Das sind nur Menschen mit Menschen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ich nehme es in eine Päckchen und lockere es auf.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
They don't, but it's kind of like, it's an honor system, but you have a comedian that's worked for a year to get 60 minutes and somebody can video and put it on YouTube and their whole year of their life is gone, right? And so people are pretty careful and there's also just a high respect. That's scary to get up there, right? Oh, yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und dann geht es von dem zu Hey Mann, meine Frau und ich haben keinen Sex mehr. Und ich so, nicht ein guter Zeit, nicht ein guter Zeit, Mann.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
We get done and it went a thousand times better than both of us thought. She texts me, that was great.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
I was so sad. I was like... And not that it was just the text, it was when I got home. And I got home and she's like, alright, tomorrow can you make sure that you get Hank to school? He's gotta go early. And I was like, yeah, cool. And she's like, alright, I'm so sleepy, I'm gonna go to bed and I'll see you in the morning, love you. And I was like...
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Okay, aber wir werden nicht darüber sprechen, wie großartig das war. Und so, ich, wiederum, das ist auf mich, ich saß darauf. Und ich habe sie für meine Gefühle verurteilt, die sie nicht hat, richtig? Und so war es ein paar Tage später und ich war so, hey, du hast mir nie gesagt, wie das war. Und sie antwortete so, deine ersten 17 Minuten waren das Beste, was ich je gesehen habe.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ja, nicht ein guter Zeit. Und es ist so, oh, oh, ich habe es verstanden. Und es ist sowas wie, Mann, fühlst du dich sicher genug, um das Rippen zu lassen, während wir beide schlafen? Es gibt das. Die schwierigeren sind, als ob du irgendwo einen Diet Coke bekommst und jemand sagt, Oh man, hey, I cheated on my husband and I cheated with his brother and could you go talk to, like, no, no, no, no.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Was ich natürlich gehört habe. Was ist mit den anderen 36 Minuten? Aber es endete mit ihr. Ich meine, als wir in der Mitte davon kamen. John, ich habe dich aus dem Publikum getextet. Ich habe mein Handy ausgedrückt. In ihrer Hände. Sie ist ein Regelschreiber. Ich habe die Regeln gebrochen, um dir sofort zu sagen, wie groß das war. Das war großartig. Und du wirst mich wirklich sensibel.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Also wollte ich nicht darüber sprechen. So haben wir uns beide einfach in der Nacht verabschiedet. Sie wollte sagen, ich liebe es und ich habe es gesehen. Und ich wollte, dass sie es mir in einer anderen Weise sagen würde. Und so müssen wir das Gespräch haben und wir rufen zurück. Und mein Sohn am nächsten Morgen, sie ist so, Mama sagte, das war schrecklich. Und ich sage, ich habe es dir gesagt.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und er ist so, sie hat das nicht gesagt. Ich habe das nicht gehört. Ich habe es nur gehört. Ich wusste, dass sie es nicht mag. Aber es ist nur ich, die sensibel bin. Und jetzt, als sie wieder zu einer anderen Nacht kam, haben wir noch einen gemacht. Und Sie hat mich auf den Kopf genommen und gesagt, du hast es großartig gemacht. Und ich war so, okay. Aber es fühlte sich gut an.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Wir sind 20 Jahre verheiratet und wir wissen immer noch, das ist eine neue Vulnerabilität für dich. Okay, wir werden uns wieder vorstellen, was Liebe aussieht und was du willst, wie ich für dich aussehen kann in diesem Moment. Wir wissen es immer noch.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ich fühle keine Druck darauf. Du fühlst keine Druck darauf. Du nicht. Weil ich ziemlich offen bin, dass ich am weitesten vom Perfekten bin. Die Druck, die ich fühle, ist es, nie ein Bild zu malen, das unerwartet ist. Und ich denke, das ist das Problem mit dem Instagram-Welt. Es ist nur ein Highlight-Reel. Ja. Und das ist nicht so, wie mein Leben ist. Und ich versuche, ziemlich offen zu sein.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Hey, ich habe diesen Anruf verfolgt. Ich habe diesen Jungen zurückgebracht. Und ich möchte, dass du hörst, wie eine Entschuldigung aussieht. Ich habe einen Mann gehört, der in Bedrohung kam und ich habe nicht einen guten Job gemacht. Ich habe mein eigenes Wachstum mit einem Anruf beeinflusst, wie ich mit ihm gesprochen habe, und das war nicht cool. Also hier ist, wie das aussieht.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und ich versuche, ziemlich offen zu sein. Du, am anderen Tag, ich mache das für das Leben. Weißt du, was ich gesagt habe? Ich habe das meiner Frau gesagt. Sie sprach über etwas und ich sagte das. Ich sagte, das klingt genau wie deine Mutter. Und gleich als ich es gesagt habe, ging es... Und ich war so, nein... Wer sagt das? Und übrigens, meine Mutter-in-Law ist unglaublich.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und meine Frau hat sich literally aufgehört und begonnen zu gehen. Und natürlich habe ich sie verurteilt. Ich habe gesagt, du kannst nicht... Ich habe gesagt, du bist nicht verrückt, bist du? Und sie hat gesagt, ich werde nicht in ein bisschen Zeit sein. Und ich war so, bist du... Aber trotzdem... Das war ich.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Am nächsten Tag auf dem Show habe ich gesagt, hey, nur damit jeder weiß, ich habe das letzte Nacht gesagt. Also, ich glaube, die Bildung, die ich mal bilden möchte, ist, dass ich keine Druck habe, um, wenn das passiert wäre, als ich 30 oder 26 Jahre alt war, dann hätte ich es schon genutzt. Because I would have felt a need to make this look a certain way.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
And the only thing I want to put out into the world is, nobody's perfect, and here's what it looks like to say you're sorry. Here's what it looks like to say, I hear you, and I think this guy's pretty abusive. It's like, here's how to tell somebody the truth in a loving way.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
None versus some is different than two or four. Two or four is often a... Ich habe ein Bild, was ich in meinem Leben, seit ich ein Kind war, ich habe ein Bild, wenn ich denke, dass ich 40 bin, es sind nur vier Kinder, die rumlaufen. Es ist wie ein Bild, das in deinem Kopf ist und wer weiß, wo es herkommt.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Es könnte aus einem TV-Show kommen, es könnte aus deiner Tochter's Haus kommen, wer weiß, wo es herkommt. Aber diese Bilder, oft kannst du dich unten sitzen und sagen, okay, ich habe ein Bild in meinem Kopf, was unsere Leben aussehen. Du hast ein Bild in deinem Kopf. Lass uns über diese Bilder sprechen und was diese Bilder bedeuten.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Denn oft werden unsere Gehirne für Bilder starten, die wir nie diskutieren. Und wenn du also ein Bild hast von dem Mann, den du verheiratest, aber dann verheiratest du diesen Mann, kann die Maschine immer noch nach diesem anderen Mann suchen. Aber du liebst die Person, mit der du bist. Und so ist es das Rekalibrieren deines Bildes. Oh, ich dachte, das ist, wie Liebe aussieht. Aber du, richtig?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Es gibt also einen Schiff da. Zero Kids, like I don't want any kids, I want two or three kids, that's a fundamental core, gotta have that conversation before you're married. Because that's one of those things like I love you and I don't want to build a life with you. I don't want to co-create a world together because in the world I want to co-create, it's got little kids in it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
I mean, you wouldn't believe me if the guy isn't sitting right there that has witnessed it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Two, four, we'll negotiate that. But that to me is a core fundamental difference. That's like somebody, like before you get married, like I will never walk into a church. I will never go into a church. Like my faith is incredibly important to me. I love you. You're hilarious. I'm attracted to you. You're a great kisser. Like all these things.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Das ist so wichtig für mich, dass ich keine Welt kreieren will, die nicht von der Glauben enthalten ist. Und ich denke, du machst diese schwierigen, schwierigen Anrufe. Und ich denke, das ist ein weiterer kultureller Herausforderung, dass wir die Realität in unserer Kultur in einer ziemlich steigenden Art und Weise vermeiden.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Wir haben es geschafft, daran zu arbeiten und unsere Art und Weise, die Realität zu hacken, so viel, dass wir jetzt denken, dass die richtigen Regeln nicht anpassen. Die Idee von Leben auf weniger als du machst, die Tatsache, dass du darüber argumentieren musst, ist eine Banane. Es ist nur eine Mathematik-Problematik.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
I don't know. When the show started, I so desperately, because I was so insecure, I so desperately wanted to be the Huberman of mental health. I'm going to teach it. Nobody wanted to hear that. What they had never seen before, and we weren't even smart enough to think this through, is I'm a big, tall, loud Texan.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Aber ich meine, manchmal schaue ich auf ihn und sage, Do you realize what you have built on telling people to earn less than they make? And he'll look at me and be like, do you realize how successful you've come telling people, don't cheat on your spouse? I mean, but it's like, that's where we are. If you have a marriage problem, you know what may solve it?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Sleeping around, let's sleep with other people. Like, have consensual, you know what's going to solve y'all's conversations? Y'all should just hook up with other people. That will help, right? It's like, what? Where have we just gotten sideways? And there's a reality to math, right? Right. If you spend more than you make, eventually that bill comes due and they'll take a pound of flesh for it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Right. You will pay that in some shape, form or fashion at some point. And so it's just one of those reality things. You can say, I love everything about this person, but I want to have kids. And this person has been very clear. I will not have kids.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Es ist eine furchtbare, schreckliche, schmerzhafte Realität.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Meine Frau ist ziemlich großartig. Aber es gibt das Esteparel Quote, das ist mein Lieblingsquotient. Sie ist eine Quote-Maschine, aber sie ist mein Lieblingsquotient. Und es ist, dass die meisten Ältesten drei oder vier tolle Lieben in ihrem adulten Leben haben. Und wenn du wirklich hart arbeitest, kannst du mit der gleichen Person sein. Und das liebe ich.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ich bin eine radikal andere Person als der idiotische 24-Jährige, mit dem meine Frau verheiratet ist. Und ich bin vier, fünf oder sechs Iterationen entfernt von diesem Mann.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und wenn du stoppst, daran zu hängen, mit wem du verheiratet bist, und du beginnst zu trainieren, und zu empfinden, und dich mit der Person zu verlieben, mit der deine Schwester ist, Alter, was für eine tolle Leben du zusammen hast, richtig?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Es ist eine tolle Erleichterung, aber um deine Frage zu beantworten, hier ist, wo ich denke, dass Leute verletzt werden. Ich hatte jemanden, der mein Show am anderen Tag angerufen hat. Es war unglaublich, 65 Jahre alt. Und ihr Mann hat E.D. und Erektildysfunktion. Und er würde nicht zum Arzt gehen. Und sie sagte, ich meine, es war eine lange Tyrannie.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ich habe ihm gesagt, wir machen das drei Tage pro Woche. Und ich war so, Alter, da sind 25-Jährige, die drei Tage pro Woche nicht ausziehen. Also Glückwunsch an dich. Es war großartig. Aber sie war so, ich habe dieses Ultimatum und dieses und dieses. Und er wird nicht zum Arzt gehen. Und er wird nicht und er wird nicht. Ich sagte, was wirst du tun? Und sie sagte, ich werde ihn nicht verlassen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und das war für mich der magische Moment. Okay, also du hast diese Wahl gemacht. Ich werde ihn nicht verlassen. So every second you're angry with him is a choice for you to be miserable. Because you close the exit door. You're here. What does finding laughter and joy and intimacy in other ways, other than this one way, because you've backed yourself into a corner.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
They'd never seen that picture of that guy sit with somebody who just blew their marriage up. Und was ich gefunden habe, ist, dass die Leute interessiert sind in dieser Interaktion. Weil wenn ihre Schwester ruft und sagt, hey, ich denke, ich habe nur meinen Mann verletzt, ich weiß nicht, was ich tun soll. Wir haben keine Modell für das.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
And so I think the question is, going back to that reality baseline, we had these plans to have three kids. It was going to be so amazing. We're two years in and my husband just dropped a bomb. I'm not having kids. I refuse. Okay, Frage Nummer eins. Wann wirst du gehen? Wirst du gehen? Wirst du deinen Mann verheiratet und aus der Tür gehen? Und lebe das Leben nach dem.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Weil wenn du bist, cool, ich gehe mit dir durch das. Ich kann es nicht anregen, aber ich gehe mit dir. Wir gehen so. Wenn du nicht bist, wenn du in dem bist. Dann fangen wir an, Konversationen zu haben. Okay, wie griechen wir? Wie sind wir wirklich traurig? Wie sind wir mit jemandem, den du liebst, schmerzhaft, aber auch einfach absolut aus dem Grund rausgezogen? Lass uns durch diese Route gehen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Beide sind Realität. Was die meisten Leute gerne tun, ist, sich in ihrer Frustration oder ihrer Leidenschaft zu halten und zu blöden. Blöden fühlt sich so stark an. Weil es dir ermöglicht, nichts zu tun. Weil es deine Schuld ist und deine Schuld ist und deine Schuld ist. Okay, du hast eine Agentur. Wirst du weg? Und lass uns diese schwierige Gespräche haben.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und wenn nicht, okay, du bist mit jemandem verheiratet, der dir die Wahrheit nicht erzählt hat. Oder sie haben sich verändert, sie sind aufgewachsen und verändert. Und du magst nicht, wie sie aufgewachsen sind. Und wenn sie sich in diese Weise verändert haben, können sie sich wieder ändern. Und so beginnst du, eine Gespräche zu haben, die mit zwei Füßen auf dem Boden basiert.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Nicht jemanden, der hoch und runter springt. Das macht Sinn.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und von all den Leuten, mit denen ich gearbeitet habe, als ich in der Universität arbeitete, saß ich mit all diesen Kindern auf den Grenzen, mit all den Kindern, die aus ihren Häusern ausgeworfen wurden, weil sie es liebten. Ich meine, es war schmerzhaft. Und mein Job für 20 Jahre war es, den Eltern zu erzählen, dass ihr Kind gestorben ist.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ihr Kind ist im Krankenhaus und ihr müsst jetzt auf dem Flugzeug kommen und hierher kommen. Oder euer vierjähriges Kind ist gestorben und in diesem Raum. Das war meine Karriere. Und egal, welche schwierigen Gespräche ich mit jemandem habe, landen wir immer auf der gleichen Frage. Was machst du jetzt? Was machst du nächstes Mal?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Also lecturen wir sie, oder wir senden ihnen einen Podcast-Link, oder wir sagen, du sollst in die Kirche gehen, wir wissen nicht, was du tun sollst. Und ich denke, dass diese Modell so rar ist. Das Bild, dass man mit jemandem sitzt, der sich schmerzt, ist so rar, dass die Leute denken, ich würde gerne nur, um diesen Mann eine Meinung zu bekommen. Oder ich würde gerne nur sitzen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und ich denke, diese Frage ist so schrecklich, dass die meisten Leute hier bleiben wollen. Oder sie wissen es nicht. Ich weiß nicht, was ich tun soll. Wir sind so traurig als Kultur. Sie nennen einen Fremden auf einem YouTube-Kanal.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
And what it did was it robbed kids of seeing their parents disagree and still be on the same team. Just look at our political discourse now. If we disagree on something, I have to hate you. We overuse the word need. When I tell you I need this, I have put my well-being and my life on you.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Oh my gosh. I'm so old. It's the greatest show ever.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Y'all don't? Oh my gosh. Hör mal, ich schaue die YouTube-Kommentare auf dieses Video, lass es ihnen passieren.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Joey und Pacey.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Okay, wir sind 26. Ihr seid das Schlimmste.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Okay, fühlt sich das seltsam an? Ist das großartig?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Like, oh my gosh, we've had... You know why that is? Because you don't have to make eye contact. You can both look forward.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Yeah, you can go for walks too. I always tell people, go for walks or go for a drive. Because you can be next to each other, but you don't have to... There's an intensity there.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und so kommen sie da hoch und es ist einfach, es ist einfach, es ist einfach, es ist einfach, es ist einfach. Du siehst jemanden und siehst ihn oft und denkst dir, ich weiß nicht, was ich mit der Information erwartet habe. Ich muss das einfach wegnehmen. Du solltest vielleicht mit einem Therapeuten sprechen. Ich weiß nicht, aber es ist schwer.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Okay. If you're one of their family members, just turn away right now. How long did it take before y'all got in a hotel?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
It was on.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Because those are the most erotic, fun, playful, deep, right? Those are the moments, right? When you're like, oh, now I really know you and I really see you. It's on, right? Those are awesome. Menschen gehen mit ihren Geheimnissen herum und mit ihren Geschichten. Ich erinnere mich an ein Forschungsstudium. Ich werde sie nicht überraschen, aber ich war im Bett und ich habe gelacht.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ich hatte eine Reihe von Nerd-Journalpapieren, die ich lesen musste. Meine Frau liest etwas und ich lachte. Ich lachte. Ich dachte, ja, richtig. Und es war etwas über ein Forschungsstudium über Sex und 90% der Frauen. Und ich dachte, okay. Und meine Frau meinte, was ist das? Und ich habe es ihr gelesen und sie meinte, oh ja, sicher. Und ich war so, was? Ich habe dich seit 25 Jahren kennengelernt.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und sie war so, ah, sicher. Und es war über so eine Fantasie, wie Frauen. Und ich war so, wie kann ich das nicht wissen? Und jetzt bin ich so interessiert, was ist diese Fantasie? Ich will meine Frau nicht auf den Blitz legen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Okay, okay.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Aber hier ist das Ding. Es endete in einem der tiefsten, größten Gespräche. Und sie war so, was ist mit dir? Und ich war so, ich werde es dir sagen. Ich weiß nicht, ob wir so sprechen. Ja. Und es war wirklich ein Doppelbrett. Mein Verheirat war so und jetzt ist es so. Es fühlt sich an wie ein menschlicher Mensch.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Oder ein guter Schwester hätte nie diesen Gedanken. Oder nie diesen Angst. Und jetzt ist es alles da.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Das ist für mich die menschliche Frage. Siehst du mich, alle von mir? Und liebst du mich immer noch? Und wenn du verheiratet bist, ist die Frage, ob du gehen wirst.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und ich denke nicht, das ist ein Spoiler, das ist eine Sache, die wir bei jedem Veranstaltungsgespräch machen. Schau dir deinen Partner an und sag, nur wenn du es meinst, werde ich nie weg. Und da ist etwas an dieser Frage, das ich nicht verstanden habe. Ich sagte das einmal flippend. Und das Zimmer wurde so ruhig. Es war ein Zimmer von mehr als 1000 Leuten. Es wurde so ruhig.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ich sagte, wir schauen uns jetzt an und sagen, wir werden nie wieder weg, wenn du das meinst. Und die Leute brachten in Tränen. Ich wusste nicht, wie tief das war. Und ich ging nach Hause zu meiner Frau und ich war so. Hey, I'm never gonna leave. And she's like, what? It was like that Good Will Hunting. I was like, I'm never gonna leave. Don't embarrass me with my friends.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
But like, I'm never gonna... That was my wife. And I was like, oh my gosh. And I needed to hear it too. Except I knew she wasn't gonna leave. Because she's like, I'm not... Wenn ich sterbe und sie sagt, ich werde nicht wieder heiraten, dann bin ich gut. Ich werde mit meinen Katzen in die Wälder gehen, also bin ich gut. Aber es war dieser Gedanke, wie viele von uns den ganzen Tag herumlaufen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Wenn sie mich wirklich kennen, sind sie raus. Und es gibt etwas wirklich Wichtiges darüber zu sagen, okay, das ist es. Das ist alles, alles, alles.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und jetzt habe ich auch die Möglichkeit, wenn ich seltsame Gedanken oder seltsame Träume habe, oder es ist ein super erfolgreicher Podcast und vielleicht in ein paar Jahren, ich habe angefangen, einen Gedanke zu bekommen, dass ich das nicht mehr machen will. Und jetzt haben wir eine Rennstrecke gebaut, damit wir, wenn wir das Gespräch brauchen, das können.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Oder du hast mit unseren Jungs gesprochen, in einer Art, die mich unangenehm macht. Ihr habt ein Highway-System erstellt, mit dem ihr jetzt auf der Straße zusammenkommen könnt und das Gespräch haben könnt. Es hat eine Rennstrecke für euren gesamten Freundeskreis gesetzt, was großartig ist.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Bro, nicht irgendwann. Es wird immer wieder kommen. Ja.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Nein, weil ich ziemlich spät war und auf dem Puer-Pressure-Trick war. Ich bin sicher, es gab einige, die es gesagt haben, die es nicht meinten, aber... Es schockierte mich. Und je mehr ich gefragt habe, wie Arthur Brooks, mein Freund, und sie sagten, ja, das ist die körperliche Frage. Das ist die Frage unter der Frage, wirst du weg? Wenn du mich völlig weißt, wirst du weg.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und einfach jemandem zu sagen, nein, ich werde nie weg. Denn für die ganze Menschheitsgeschichte konntest du nicht einfach gehen. Und jetzt können wir. Und es gibt kein Fault Divorz. Und du kannst ein Leben machen und ich werde es machen. Du kannst es jetzt. Und es gibt ein Gewicht, dass ich nie mehr gehen werde. Das ist mächtig.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Was ist das Schwierigste, ein öffentlich verheiratetes Paar mit zwei kleinen Kindern zu sein?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Na, mach das nicht, Mann. Ich weiß.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Als ich die Universitätssysteme verlassen wollte, um diesen Job zu nehmen und meine Frau und ich unsere letzte Gespräche zusammen hatten, hat sie gesagt, If you do this and you create an avatar like this guy, like this person, this public persona said, if you do that, that will eventually run out. Nobody can keep that up forever. And I was like, I'm going to be fully me and like authentic.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
I said all the dumb Instagram words. And she said, okay, but if you're fully you, she said, you're weird. Like you go to Sunday school, but you also, I've seen Pantera 10 times and you have tons of tattoos and you're also really compassionate and you're a big, loud guy, but you also get real quiet. She goes, you're a weird guy.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Es ist wie eine Sexfrage von... Es ist ziemlich normal, aber es ist... Nicht normal. Es ist oft eine Proxy-Frage.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
And she said, if you are fully authentic and this doesn't work, you're going to have to go to bed at night. And this was her quote, knowing America doesn't like you. Und sie sagt, ich mache das. Ich werde es immer machen. Und die Kinder machen das. Und deine Freunde machen das. Du hattest Freunde seit 30, 40 Jahren. Du hattest diese gleichen Freunde. Wir lieben dich alle.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Aber du musst zu Hause gehen, wenn sie es nicht gemacht haben. Und ich dachte, oh Gott. Das war ein Wettbewerb. Aber auch, als ich gesagt habe, ich werde meinen Job verabschieden und versuchen, diese Medien zu machen, war es wirklich befreiend. Weil es war so, okay, wenn sie mich nicht lieben, bin ich immer noch ein guter Typ.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und es war ein totaler... Ich würde sagen, ich hätte das nicht an 30 Jahren gemacht, weil ich mich noch so aufhören würde. Nein, ich werde sie mich lieben. Und jetzt fühle ich Freiheit. Der beste Weg, Leute zu lieben, ist, sie zu kennen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ich werde hier weit übergeneralisiert, okay? Wie ein Stereotyp.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Nichts. Oh, es gibt nichts? Nein, Mann. Ich liebe euch alle. Das ist großartig. Nein, ich meine, ich mache meinen Show immer noch. Er kommt drei Mal pro Woche raus. Ich co-hoste den Ramsey Show mit Dave. Ich arbeite an ein paar größeren Projekten. Wir haben eine App für Beziehungen, die Menschen auf dem Telefon und nacheinander helfen wird, was cool ist. Ich liebe das.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und es sind mehr Aktionen anstelle von Reden. Es ist mehr so, wie können wir unseren Weg zurückbekommen, anstelle von uns zu kämpfen oder weiter zu verschwinden.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ich denke, im Juni oder Juli.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
I'll clap you guys for your hospitality. Thank you. Y'all aren't from Texas or Southern, but y'all are very hospitable.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
most men gauge and again this is like a traditional hetero couple like most men will gauge the health of that relationship by are we having sex and if they can enter into if they're having sex then finally there's a space in the world you've earned my trust that I can tell you what's actually going on in my heart like in my spirit I'm scared about the economy I'm scared about the world our kids are gonna have it I might lose my job AI my team like there's
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
You're doing the Southwestern United States very well.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
But you have to prove, and for all human history, guys were shoulder to shoulder solving something or building something or constructing. That was the way we have evolved. I have to know I'm safe before I tell you this is okay. If you and I just were sitting at a Mexican food restaurant here in town and I just met you and I sat down and I was like, Hey, ich habe Angst. Das wäre seltsam.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Das wäre seltsam. Und umgekehrt, für die ganze Menschheitsgeschichte, wenn eine Frau Sex hatte, könnte sie verheiratet werden. Und bis jetzt, könnte die Verheiratung zu Tod führen. Am wenigsten war die Verheiratung ein Leben lang ein Vertrauen für sie, nicht für ihn. Und sie muss wissen, ich kann dir vertrauen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Wenn dieses Ding passiert, dass wir einen Menschen erschaffen, dann wirst du nicht weg, du wirst sicher sein, du wirst uns schützen, du wirst mit uns sein. Das ist die Evolution, das ist die ganze Geschichte der Menschen. Und so oft wollen Frauen, dass sie sich bekannt, gesehen und sicher fühlen, bevor ich jemanden in meinem Körper verletze.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und so wollen die Männer wissen, dass wir sicher sind, via Sex, damit wir sprechen können. Und sie will wissen, hey, ich muss wissen, dass du sicher bist, damit wir dieses Ding machen können. Und dann wird es einfach... Die Proxy ist, wie viel Sex haben wir, oder wie wild ist Sex, oder ist mein Herz, haben wir Herzschlag, wie ist mein Herzschlag, wenn ich Sex habe, oder ist das furchtbar?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Aber daneben ist, ob du mich noch liebst? Sind wir noch okay? Sind wir noch sicher? Und zu diesem Niveau, wir haben kein Vokabular für das überhaupt. Und so spielt die Krieg aus, mit welchem Sex wir haben, wie viel Sex wir haben, wann, wo, all those kind of, there's a whole ecosystem about sex. And really the questions are, do you see me and do you know me? Und, Alter, können wir einfach spielen?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Können wir einfach wieder Spaß haben? Oder können wir neue Spaß in der Welt erschaffen? Ich weiß nicht, Sex ist so ein existenzielles Thema für Menschen geworden.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Nobody tells parents of a two and a one year old that for about two years you're going to have survival sex. You'll have nine minutes. You'll have nine minutes. And I am wearing my nursing bra and you're wearing sweats. We got nine minutes. If we're going to do this, we're going to do this. Das ist nicht in irgendeinem Film, das ist nicht in irgendeinem Porno, das jeder sieht.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Das existiert nicht irgendwo. Aber das ist real. Das ist die Realität davon. Und können wir Glimpsen von Spaß und Rückkommnung und Lachen in diesen Momenten finden? Und können wir Verletzungen finden, wenn ich von der Pregnanzung zurückkehre oder ich 17-Tage-Tage arbeite, um ein Geschäft zu bauen? Können wir diese Momente dort finden?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und wenn du diese Momente finden musst, dann ist es, was unsere Kultur uns sagt, dann ist die Beziehung wahrscheinlich vorbei. Oder das ist der Moment, wenn die Frau am Werk lacht an deinem Lächeln wirklich laut. Und es fühlt sich an, als würde sie mich sehen. Meine Frau, die wirklich beschäftigt ist, das und das und das und das und das. Oh, sie sieht mich.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Oder der Mann am Werk sagt, du siehst wirklich gut aus heute. Und es ist einfach zu sagen, das fühlt sich gut an, um zu werden verabschiedet. Mein Mann hat mich schon lange verabschiedet. Und jetzt startest du, es ist nur so viel. Und du beginnst zu wollen, ob er mir heute wieder gut aussieht. Oder ist sie going to think this joke is funny? I'm going to put this joke in the presentation.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
And all of a sudden, right? And you end up just by degree, but you end up, you know, six inches apart from your spouse, but you're 6,000 miles away from it. You have a whole other world that you've created.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ich denke, dass wir eine ganze Menge Gründe haben, aber ich denke, dass wir eine Kultur sind, die viel spricht. Und wir haben keine andere Metrik für, sind wir okay? Meine Frau, sie spricht nicht so viel mit mir. Sie ist wie ein walking Xanax. Es ist unglaublich. Wir haben uns gefunden, richtig? Und wenn es ihr ging, würde sie 19 Liste in einem Tag machen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Sie würde alles auf dieser Liste beobachten. Sie würde um neun Uhr schlafen gehen und sie hätte ein tolles Leben.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ja.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Und für mich bin ich so, Alter, es ist neun Uhr. Ich wette, Theo ist noch auf der Bühne in Zanies. Er lebt in Nashville. Ich wette, er ist noch auf der Bühne. Lass uns jetzt gehen. Ich habe Tickets für ein altes Hardcore-Show gekauft, vor etwa zwei Monaten. Ich habe sie total vergessen. Ich bin nach Hause gekommen und dachte mir, das ist heute Abend. Es war am Ende eines Events.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ich bin nach Hause gekommen und mein Sohn war im Schlafzimmer auf dem Kühlschrank. Und ich sagte ihm, du, du trägst alles schwarz. Ich nehme dich raus. Du bist noch nie in einem Punkrock-Show gewesen. Du gehst. Und er so, was, Vater? Und wir sind so verheiratet. But I like talking, I like feeling.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
And then a few weeks ago, my wife comes in and she said, either Brooklyn Nine-Nine or The Office, I need to borrow your nervous system for about 30 minutes. And she went to do something and I sat on the couch, turned on one of those episodes and she curled up like a Labrador. That was it. That was the most connected I have felt with her in months.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
And that was her saying, not only do I need you, but I want you. And she curled up, we watched a show, we laughed. And then it was over. She literally was like, alright. Ha! Und sie sagt, gute Nacht. Und das war es. Und das war großartig. Aber wir mussten keine Worte sagen. Ich denke, wir sind eine Kultur, die viel zu sprechen mag, weil wir keine anderen Anmerkungen in unserer Leben haben.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Das Problem darunter ist, dass wir so marginale Leben geschaffen haben. Wir haben nicht einen Sekunden, um zu sparen. Und du musst, wir müssen zurückkommen, um Raum in unseren Leben zu schaffen, um nur eine furchtbare Leben zu passieren, damit wir atmen können und dann können wir uns fragen, was ich gerade wirklich will. Ich will einfach auf der Couch neben dir sitzen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
I just wanna go make out. Can we just go do that? Can we just go for a walk? And if you don't have that, it's just spinning, spinning, spinning. And then you start saying, how many times we have sex this week? Oh, only two? Well, they're having four, so we must be... The whole thing just unwinds on itself.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Das Ideale, das ist der Instagram-Clip.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Ich weiß nicht, dass er einen Nummer geben wird. Ich weiß, dass die Regel nicht ist. Das ideale Anzahl an Zeiten, an denen jeder gute verheiratete Paar Sex haben sollte, ist, welchen Anzahl ihr alle aufgreift. Du bist so, verdammt, ich hoffe auf 19. Der Anzahl ist, wie viele Male wir aufgreifen. Und normalerweise ist es am Sonntagabend. Was sieht diese Woche für uns aus?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Das ist großartig.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Dr. John Delony breaks down affairs, s*x conflict & the worst parenting mistakes
Nothing is less sexy. Nothing is less Hollywood than saying Tuesday night is a free night. It is on Tuesday night. And Thursday night we have something but we'll be home at 7. It's on Tuesday night.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Well, he should be.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Is that rude?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Answering CONTROVERSIAL questions w/ my parents *Christmas edition*
Well, he should be. No.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
Like you're a consultant now.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
I so wish Missy were on this episode right now because she probably has a whole... She probably blamed you for it.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
No, I don't have a guy. In fact, now after hearing all this, I'm glad I don't have a guy. I'm glad I just do my own thing.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
But you have a guy. What are you talking about?
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
Well, this is where you wind up. That's what I'm scared of.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
Because he's big. Rumi is big on that.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
And she had never been to a party with a Doug Dostey person.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
Well, maybe you just got a good review for the new revival show coming up. You may be paving the way. Willie may need to send you out as a publicist now that you've had to do your own media.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
Yeah.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
But, you know, Dallas came on our podcast. The first season, like when they were just promoting, it had just happened the first time he came on. So he probably knows, Jay, that we're – We've come a long way. Yeah, we're probably – we're good promoters of his show, which is amazing. And I love this Hallow thing that all the advertising, Wahlberg's on there, Chris Pratt now.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
I like that people are recognizing Hollywood stars are talking about prayer and God. I mean, that's a major positive for me. So I love what they're doing. I think it's awesome. Yeah.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
Which I've always thought was a fascinating concept.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
We're trying to look at Jesus through our lens of being in the 21st century. Yeah, that's what we do. So, Jace, did you hear that bell tolling in the background this morning?
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
It's the bell tolls because April 15th is coming. It's like, you know, one of those old movies where... Tax day. Tax day. That's exactly right. All of us have struggled in the past with the IRS. I don't know if you've had unfiled tax returns. You can't pay the IRS. Lisa and I have been there before.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
yeah these walls that divide us whether culturally or where you're from the hatred between us you know jesus came for everybody it was the same setup zach as the the movie the apostle paul the guy that directed our movie right andrew it used with that where paul is being interviewed by luke yeah you know to be able to write acts and the same thing where you're looking back
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
And seeing the, as you come forward, which is just a great filmmaking.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
Because in the old days, you would just get in your car and drive to Dallas and do something.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a very powerful way to do it.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
Really?
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
Oh, that's awesome.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
And most normal people can do that, just so you know.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
Well, plus you think about the amount of time we're talking about here. This was, so the Samaritan situation that's being referenced here in these two cases, this has been going on in Jesus' timeframe for 700 years. In 50 years. I mean, our country's not even 300 years old. We think, man, way back in the revolutionary days. Well, double that. And that's when this Samaria issue came in.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
They were hauled off into slavery. When they came back, they were repopulated. They were all this Gentile influence. And so they had been disregarded for 750 years. And so when Jesus comes in and starts telling these stories, everybody's like, what? I mean, like, this has been a long period of time.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
Because you didn't have your little guide there.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
It's not, you know, we're protecting life, but the life of the mom and the life of the baby, of course. Pre-born offers God's love and compassion to hurting women and then provides a free ultrasound to introduce them to the life growing inside them. We get a lot of great stories from our friends at Preborn. One of those is Paige's story.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
Which, by the way, same time frame almost. 600 years, that had been a positive from Daniel all the way down.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
Well, they had written 24 volumes of material on the Sabbath. Not pages, volumes, books.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
I got you. I got you.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
Somebody's digging a well around here.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
Zach's well.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
You know, it's funny, the house we lived at before where we are now, when we were building that house, we were the first people, Mac Owen owned the land out there, and we were the first people that built. So there was a road that was built that would lead to other houses. So since we were the first ones, we got to name the road. So we were thinking of all the different names to name it.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
One day the bulldozer was back there moving around some earth, and And he came across a spring. And when he rolled over the top of it, I mean, it looked like a geyser. I just happened to be watching it when this happened. And, I mean, water shot up like 40 feet in the air, you know. And I was like, wow, look at that. And then it hit me, this story. And I thought, I know her name on the road.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
Wellspring Road. But it wasn't just, the water reminded me, but I thought we're here as a spiritual plant.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
Well, if I would have been Texas Tea, but the Beverly Hillbillies came later when we moved in the neighborhood. But when I saw that, I thought we're the wellspring of life. And so from that point forward, everything about us living in that place was we have to be Christ here. And so I felt like we were then his missionaries doing what he calls to do by his spirit.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
And so it was just that same reminder seeing that. And to this day, it's still Wellspring. We're long gone. We haven't been there in 15 years. But still Wellspring Road.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
Well, of course it's me. But it was really interesting because you rarely see two adult men walk into a room wearing the exact same thing. It was awkward, but I will say this.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
I didn't even feel weird about it, and the reason why is because Cozy Earth gives you the coziest feel of anything I've ever worn, and I have to be honest, I cannot wait to get home in the afternoon, early evening, not have anything going on that night, and to get into my Cozy Earth pajama.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
I mean, that was the point. And the rich young ruler. I thought about him here, too. Remember, he answered right.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
But not really. He kept all the commandments.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
By the way, there was also 70 people that wound up escaping Israel to go to Egypt that started the people there.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
And that seekers will find, which is the key. It's like this diet I'm on. The one thing they said that's helped me the most about anything else is they said, don't focus on what you can't eat. Focus on what you can eat. And that's a simple little saying, but you know what? It helps me a lot. And it's the same thing when it comes to the idea of helping people. There are people that are looking.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
There are people that are not. All we're doing is doing what the Spirit has led us to do.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
Which he's also said in the stage when we get to chapter six. All right, we're out of time. We come back, we'll pick it up there on Unashamed. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by leaving a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube. And be sure to click the little bell and choose all notifications to watch every episode.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
If he says no, then you're back to the banishment.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
When you're in an airport, there's a lot of strange people already, so it just kind of fit into it.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
I was about to say, there's a difference. He speaks the Queen's English.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
He was coming here, and I didn't even know you were going to be here, so I was shocked.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
He's telling his wife that night, this weirdo was there with the other guy.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
Welcome back to Unashamed Podcast. So, Jase, I'm in the Atlanta airport last night, and this person rudely sits down behind me, shakes all the chairs, and I kind of look over my shoulder, and it's Zach.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
Yeah, we're sitting there waiting. I was like, well, it doesn't do much good for Zach to be in town if he doesn't show up.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
There's got to be a Bible lesson in that, right? So, Jace, our podcast is called Unashamed. But, you know, we could have called it Pure Talk.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
We do a lot of talking here on this podcast. Everywhere I go, they say, Jace, is Jace ever going to run out of stories? And I'm like, no, he loves Pure Talk. I do. So one of our sponsors is called Pure Talk. And we love those guys. Of course, Zach tells the story of how when he was in the hurricane and couldn't get coverage, that these were the guys that came to the rescue.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
And you've had a lot of embarrassing things happen in your life.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
Which I have a feeling that's going to happen more as they go forward.
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Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
Yeah, which is a couple of days after this comes out.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1063 | Jase Suffers the Most Embarrassing Date Night Ever—In Front of ‘The Chosen’ Cast!
And every time they do one of these, which is a blessing, it winds up being one of the top draws, usually that, you know, in all movies, which is great. I'm just kind of making a statement.
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Ep 1047 | Jase Opens up About a Major Hurt in His Marriage & the Biggest Lie Satan Tells Couples
Yeah.
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Ep 1035 | Phil Delivers a Fiery Portrayal of John the Baptist & Jase’s Date Night Gone Wrong
Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near. Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near. You brood of vipers, who warned you to flee from the coming wrath?
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Ep 1035 | Phil Delivers a Fiery Portrayal of John the Baptist & Jase’s Date Night Gone Wrong
Repent! For the kingdom of heaven is near! Repent! For the kingdom of heaven is near! You brood of Micah, who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? Produce fruit in keeping with repentance! Do not think you can say to yourselves, but we have Abraham for our God. I tell you, out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham.
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Ep 1035 | Phil Delivers a Fiery Portrayal of John the Baptist & Jase’s Date Night Gone Wrong
And he who comes after me, more powerful than I, whose sandals I'm not even fit to carry, he will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire. Repent, I tell you,
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Ep 1035 | Phil Delivers a Fiery Portrayal of John the Baptist & Jase’s Date Night Gone Wrong
who takes away the sins of the world. This is the one I meant when I said he who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me. I myself did not know it, but the reason I came back out into the water was that he must be revealed to Israel. I saw the Holy Spirit come down from heaven and to spin on him as a dove.
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Ep 1035 | Phil Delivers a Fiery Portrayal of John the Baptist & Jase’s Date Night Gone Wrong
I would not have known who he was, except the one who sent me to baptize said, the one you see the Holy Spirit come down and remain on. He is the one who will baptize with the Holy Spirit. I have seen and I testify that this is
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
I'm back. Has there ever been two in person? You know, I'm sure there are.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
I was calling my agent secretly. I go, I think you got me into something over my head.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
Somebody was telling me, yeah, the house. Is the house there? Yeah. Yeah, they're like, come on up to the house. There's some other people. And I was like, I never know who's in the family or who's not. It's very confusing. Yeah.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
He just listened to what I said, and he goes, hmm.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
They claim this guy's a Christian comedian. People are definitely leaving going, I don't know about that boy for sure. That should be the title of my next tour. I don't know about that boy.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
It would be pretty good. I don't know about that boy.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
Yeah, they were both in their 20s. The most concerning part is married. That's when you're not allowed to do stuff.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
I didn't even hear y'all's argument.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
If you're married and you go, babe, let me take you out to a nice dinner and we're going to go home and... a hickey's gonna come from that that's not good no that's not that's not no there are way more interesting things than you can be doing with your time
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
John's got a beard, but you can still get to the neck. I think there's a tipping point where you go, a kid in – Sixth, seventh grade comes in, you're high-fiving everybody.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
I agree with that. Then you go, 20s?
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
Married? Yeah.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
Well, I think what – it's funny because a lot of times you get like a pastor or like a speaker that is – if they are being booked for an encouraging message or an inspirational talk and they're funny, it's like an added bonus. Right. If you go to the comedy club and you're like, this guy is booked as a comedian – we better be here. Yeah.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
We better be, so if you go, we joke around sometimes with some of the Christian comedians that if the comedy's not really going well, they just kind of go into a message. Yeah. Yeah, they're like, well, yeah, and they're kind of like, what happened to the comedy? Well, that's what I did.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
And you're supposed to be doing what? Preaching? Well, they just... They said on appearance.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
And Willie's... Is Willie funny? He's pretty funny.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
So it's interesting that it's live because when it's live, I mean, every comic has stories for a whole decade of what we call bombing. Like, well, I mean, I've done, I did a church down here in West Monroe, like in 2018. And I like, I've done youth groups. I did a kid's like karate birthday party. And, and.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
They will see... It was like the people that book you... That seems like that'd be a tough crowd.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
What do you do when it bombs? It bombs.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
It's impossible. But they go, oh, do the magic trick at this thing. And that's what you're saying. Sometimes if people are standing up when they should be sitting, if it's too buttoned up, nobody's drinking, that's not good. But if everyone's drunk, that's not good. You want to kind of get them...
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
somewhere in the middle and they're like oh let's do it at a at a like a concert like a in between the bands i go well if everybody's standing yeah that's not not really conducive right to yeah that's interesting but it's live so you gotta are you're kind of trying to present but also thinking in your head okay that didn't work yeah Should I go this way?
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
You know, but anyway, I mean, that was... How many go-to jokes do you got in the holster?
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
Well, I thought you said you did a couple jokes.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
Well, if you think about Joel Osteen, if you ever watch one of his messages, what does he start with? A joke. Yeah. Every time. Yeah. And it's something from the internet or a knock-knock joke or a funny joke about, you know, it's, and I remember when I was on, you know, the tour Winter Jam? Mm-hmm. The big Christian tour? Yeah. We did it in 2018 and,
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
And I was, Carrie Jobe did her set right after me. So I'd do 20, I'd do 12 minutes, Carrie Jobe would come on and lead worship.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
Happen, so I don't know how they decided on that lineup, but she came to me, the tour's three months, she came to me about... A month into the tour, she goes, I got to be honest with you. It is so refreshing to lead these people into the, in, in, in worship after. Cause what you've done, there's all these strangers that have come to, you know, Shreveport or wherever we are.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
Nobody knows each other. You, you, have brought them all together. And comedy is a very, like, you're tapping the guy next to you, and everybody's laughing at these things. Right. And you've also, she said, what it also does, it brought down the walls. Yeah. Where everybody was feeling nervous about how they looked in front of everyone else.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
And she said, you brought all that down with humor, brought everyone together, and then it was so refreshing to lead worship after that. And I never thought about something like that.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
I think that's what Joel Osteen does, however you feel about him. He does great about connecting. And if you laugh... If me and you are in the airport and somebody does something silly, what are you doing? You're looking around to see if someone else goes... Yeah, do you see what happened? Did you see that? And then you're buddies with that guy. Because you go, that's...
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
And then somebody goes, and then you go, oh, thank you. And then everybody, it kind of brings people together like that.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
Calls him by his last name. Hey, Holstein. It's a high school on the recess.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
Nobody has any stories about, why don't we tell the stories about how we've all been killing with our jokes? What's the best that's ever gone for you? Do you remember?
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
I would say, so it depends on what city. Sometimes you do the same city and you've got a 4 o'clock show, a matinee show, and a 7 o'clock show. And those can be wildly different. Exact same stage. But 4 o'clock, 7 o'clock, if it goes on sale in Shreveport, that's the one that sells out first. So those are the rabid fans. 4 o'clock is the ones that go, oh.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
So those people are by nature less enthusiastic. But the thing about these crowds that you guys are talking about, they don't know they're bad. Yeah. You do because you tell those jokes or those whatever. You know they work. Somebody could, sometimes we have the highest merch sales ever after a horrible show. Yeah. They go, that was unbelievable. That was the best thing.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
I'm like, well, why didn't you? Why didn't you let me know?
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
I think you just, there's, we have, I would say I have In an hour-long show, I got six pillars of topics. My nieces and nephews, dating, my parents. And so if you go into one and they're not giving it to you, I'll just go to the next one. Shift it. Yeah, and if they love it, Seinfeld would say use a bad show to edit and use a good show to explore. So if they're into it, keep...
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
talking about the topic so do you discover new material during a show that's the only way to oh okay i got you so it's not like you just thought all these things all the way out yeah like yesterday we were at the one of my buddies was telling me about how he goes you ever not like a guy and then you want to introduce you to his kids and you're like by default you're like i'm not gonna like these kids because i don't like the guy
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
And I just thought that was a funny idea. And the kid's probably great.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
Yeah, and see, I say that to y'all too, and y'all have a knowledge of that idea. Right, right, right. And so I would just kind of play around, and then I would record it, and then I would watch that part.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
That's a good sign.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
Never been said before.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
My mother. I would fight them. Exactly. But if my brother makes fun of my mom, it's okay. That's right. Because you know that those people love her. Yeah, that's right. I remember when I first started making jokes, everybody was like, is this guy a Christian or not? Yeah.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
So if I was making jokes about Christian music and how – because the big – it was like, if this guy is a Christian, this is hilarious. Because he's talking about our culture in a way that no one else could talk about it unless – just like Donald Trump Jr. Right. He wouldn't know – he has to have – Yeah, right.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
But then he goes, well, if this guy's not a Christian, these same jokes are very offensive. Yeah.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
So about your, you know what I'm saying? You're like, we, it's so heavy dealing with parents getting older and we deal with the same. It's so heavy and so serious. Some levity does need to be brought to the situation, but without that first, I think it can get, it can go be.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
You could take that everywhere you go. You go, it's an honor to be here. Last week, that's what a comedian does, last week I was at an Amish convention. Just tell that exact story. Exactly.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
That's the most wholesome way. Nobody came out of there with a hickey.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
I think when I used to tour with Tim Hawkins, you know, Tim Hawkins, Christian.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
He would say, I mean, I've seen this joke kill a hundred times. He's like, oh, West Monroe, a great place to raise a family or bury a body. It was just, it killed everywhere, dude, everywhere.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
Sometimes I would say if I go way out in the middle of nowhere, I have a, man, it's great to be here. I got the chance to visit the home of the child I sponsor this afternoon. I've been sending $40 a month down to West Monroe. It's good to see how he's being raised.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
But you want to go, like when you first walk out,
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
I got the benefit of the doubt I guess because I'm a comedian but it doesn't always work too because you think I did a like a marriage conference and I was right after the guy that did a presentation on the five love languages you know and there was all these couples in there they were taking notes oh it's so good oh and your quality time and your gifts and everybody's people are crying and it's the guy that wrote the book Smiley very Smiley very Smiley and I'm after it and I'm not first of all I'm not
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
I was like, I don't even know why I'm here. So I come out and I go, that was a great presentation. Actually, my love language is physical acts of quality touch. Dead silent, dude. Dead silent. And I go, just like you, you go, no, this is going to be a long 30 minutes.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
Must have figured it out.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
Well, that's what comedy is. I like it. Yeah, emotional support. Everybody gets together. I got a show in Shreveport, I think.
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Ep 1066 | Phil Accidentally Comes up with John Crist’s Next Tour Name
You come out and tell that story.
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Ep 1042 | Jase Goes Wide-Eyed at Alternate Realities in the Bible & 2 Super Awkward Bible Misquotes
And John's recommendation. Yeah, I think that's what did it.
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Because he's like most people. It's kind of like, you know, John the Baptist is making a name for himself. But then when people gathered around him, they were like, well, I'm not the guy. Right. It's to kind of put it in a political environment. Here's a guy basically campaigning for someone else. Right. Which is unheard of in politics.
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Well, that's an interesting thought because when he does say that in John 14 where it says, anyone who trusts me or obeys me, We will come and make our home.
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My father will love him. This is, was that 1423? Yeah, 1423. My father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him, which he had started that whole chapter by saying, in my father's house or any rooms. Yeah. I'm going to go prepare a place for you. But then he also says in that chapter, I will come to you. like in the same vein of giving you the Holy Spirit. Right.
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Because we know the Holy Spirit and Jesus, they're one in the same, yet uniquely different.
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So I think that's the trouble the religious world has with all this, because we're just not used to looking at something that way. Right. It goes back to Genesis 1. You say the same thing. You have the Father...
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ready to create you have the holy spirit hovering and then he starts speaking and then things start happening yeah through that process which is the same thing that's going to happen here as far as new creation right in human beings yeah i think that question that jesus asked is is not
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Every one of my kids, when they became a teenager, this question came up. Not because I knew this is how John started, but it's like all of a sudden you see a bad attitude or you get intel of bad behavior. You sit down and you're like, what's the plan here? I know you've been doing this and that. Then you go through that process. No, it wasn't me. Oh, yeah, it was you.
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What are you trying to accomplish? What do you want here? So then it forces the issue. Why am I pursuing this when I know this is wrong? So it's a very good question. Now, in this case, I think he just was more like, why are you following me? But when they're like, Well, where are you staying? Which I'm sure they were disappointed because he was homeless pretty much.
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I mean, later he would say, you want to follow me, but I don't even have a place to lay my head. And then he says, come and you will see. So they went and saw where he was staying. But the key phrase is they spent that day with him. Now something happened. During that day, because as the story continues, he gives the details.
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Andrew, Simon Peter's brother, was one of the two who heard what John had said and who had followed Jesus. The first thing Andrew did was to find his brother, Simon, and tell him, we have found the Messiah, that is, the Christ. And he brought him to Jesus. Jesus looked at him and said, You are Simon, son of John. You will be called Cephas, which when translated is Peter, which means rock.
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Right. What are you seeking? Right.
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That's what I think we missed in the religious world. Yeah. Is... A lot of what you read is about, I keep, that word vocation keeps coming in my mind, but it's what God had planned for us to do, to be. And that's why we're here now. I mean, we're representing Jesus. When you think of that 2 Corinthians 3 that we referred to last time, I mean, it's like chapter 3 through 6.
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It's all about God is leading us. We're reflecting God. Jesus, we're God's ambassadors. We don't view people from a worldly point of view. We're new creations. I mean, it's just over and over. So I think here, you're right. Naturally goes to this, it's like Jesus is contagious. Yeah. Like we would view some kind of health problem. Right. But contagious in a good way. Yeah.
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And I don't think he really, I mean, you say, well, he might have gone to the Old Testament scriptures. I just think, you know, when you meet somebody, I mean, it takes you about 10 seconds to get a feeling here. And usually a minute, you've already formed an opinion. Mm-hmm. And them of you. Well, exactly. It's just like, this guy. I don't know. But just think about, we know Jesus never sinned.
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Hebrews 4, 12 and 13. Yeah. So you're never going to – it's like the more you watch him, you never catch him. There's been people who don't believe in God trying to read through these books.
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And think of every situation imaginable circumstance-wise, and you're like, what is the best course of action? And he's doing it. Well, he always does the best course of action.
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John 418 says, the fact is you've had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband. What you have said is quite true.
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Yeah, they read every passage in that vein. How do I check the box to be saved where I don't have any kind of consequences or I don't want to go to hell? But it's like, as long as I check that box.
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Then in the same vein, it's like, there's nothing you can do to save yourself. So they're like, okay, I got it. They're like, so what are you going to do now? Well, nothing. You know what I mean?
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Yeah, you read all the verses about we were, God created us to do good works before the
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beginning of the world that Ephesians 2 where God's like workmanship created in Christ Jesus to do good works things like that you're like well what is exactly does that mean you know and or what does it mean to be God's ambassadors as though God were making his appeal through us yeah 2 Corinthians 5 well I wanted to bring up one other just personality trait before we move to that because that's really what I wanted to talk about also but
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Even subtle things like in Matthew 11, when Jesus, in verse 20, when he says, Jesus began to denounce the cities in which most of his miracles had been performed because they didn't repent. And he says, woe to you, and he names these towns. He says, if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in these other cities... They would have repented long ago.
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And my only point here is, is not only does Jesus, like, know what the best course of action is, he'll say things like, if something would have happened that didn't happen, this would have happened. Well, that's, we're going down. a rabbit hole that other humans can't even fathom. So when you think about him as pure... Alternate realities.
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Innocent, and he gives the impression that he's inviting everyone to this. You even see these subtleties in who he ate with. He's just attacking the Pharisees, as people would put it. He's always in opposition. And then there's a story that says, well, he was over at a Pharisee's house having supper. And they were reclining, and you remember that story that comes up.
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It's like, what's he doing there?
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Yeah, I mean, he's somehow able to express truths and still leave the door open, even like with Nicodemus. It's like, I mean, he told him the most crazy thing Nicodemus probably ever could imagine. You need to be born again. Start over. Wait, what? But it actually impacted Nicodemus in a way where at the end of Jesus' life, he's getting the body and preparing it.
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I mean, I just think he had a way to invite everybody, be innocent, yet be very strong in what he said as far as truth. But he also has, he's making the right decisions. He's also doing this for the Father in a humility type way.
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Well, I think the point is these numbers, they were created just so people could keep up with it. They were not written in this format.
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Well, I do think, and I agree, which Romans 8 says that, but... Al brings up a good point because subtly it's kind of like, well, who's choosing who here? Yeah. Which now later on in John 15, you remember what he says? He's like, you didn't choose me, but I chose you. Right. Well, because here you're like, well, they're following him. Yeah. And he's like, what do you want?
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But remember what he says, I chose you to go and bear fruit. So it's like, well, there's that mission again. I have a job for you. That's why when you brought up Peter, because it's a struggle to say, well, a lot of religious people, they're like, well, see, he saved them right here because he chose them. And they're looking at it from purely, what's one of your words? Justification type.
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But it's like, well, I'll make you fishers of men when you tie in what Mark does. And they're actually repeating what he just said when he said, come and see. When they said, where are you staying? He's like, come and see. What's fascinating is when you read the next paragraph, well, then you see them – Doing what he did.
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Well, it's like when Trump called, you know, Corinthians, Two Corinthians, which a lot of people do that. Right. They were like, oh, he's mispronouncing. Yeah. Because you say, I mean, I say 2 Corinthians. But I've heard a lot of preachers say 2 Corinthians. Yeah. But I've noticed most of them are not from this country. Right. So I don't know. Where to go with that?
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Because he says the next day, this is in verse 43, Jesus decided to leave for Galilee. There's your word again. finding Philip, he said to him, follow me. So who's being found here? Yeah, exactly.
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Now they're finding each other, which is why I'm saying, if you look at it kind of from how this is going to work moving forward, because when I skipped to John 15 and said, well, here's this passage where he says, you didn't choose me, but I chose you. I think that shows you who's in charge of this thing.
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Especially from a vocational view. He's in charge. He's going to be the head of the church, the people who are doing what. They're telling other people that haven't surrendered and gone all in to Jesus, come and see. That's what we do. Like when you meet somebody, what are you initially trying to do? You're trying to introduce Jesus, which is how this is working. But watch what he says in 44.
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Philip, like Andrew and Peter... was from the town of Bethsaida. Philip found, oh, there's that word again. Now Philip's finding Nathanael and told him, we have found, that was a very good point that you pointed this out. Locate by searching.
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The one Moses wrote about in the law and about whom the prophets also wrote, Jesus of Nazareth, which is really a profound statement because now they're saying, look, they're going back and saying the Old Testament It was about Jesus. Yeah. And now here he is, which is going to be a constant theme in Jesus's ministry.
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But that does go in with the overall thought of the word became flesh. Yeah. Even when you get to the end, and who was that that said, behold the man? Yeah. When he was dressed with the robe and had the crown of thorns and a pilot, right? Yeah. He said, behold the man. I mean, he's like, I think he was saying that like he's just a man.
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Because that's what in every kind of physical kingdom, it's all about, you know, somebody has this reputation and, oh, he can do miracles and he's powerful. Oh, he claims to be God. Well, what do Roman kings, any king, they're like, no, he bleeds just like every other man. Here's your king. Right. But he didn't realize, oh, just wait. Just give it a second.
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But I wanted to read this because then when it gets to verse 40, it says, Nazareth, can anything good come from there? And we'll talk about that in detail later. Nathaniel asks, and look what Philip says. Come and see. Well, all of a sudden... Things have changed. Where did he get that from? Yeah. Which I find this absolutely fascinating. What Jesus had told him.
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Well, he's become contagious because he is our righteousness. He is our wisdom. He does make you smart. There's something compelling about him that's very hard to describe that all of a sudden – Whatever happened, we're putting the pieces together because they're like, oh, come and see.
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Because when he answered that call from Jesus, whatever he saw, which doesn't go into detail, it's now made him tell somebody else, oh, I don't have to tell you. You just need to come and see this. I mean, this goes back to basic redneck DNA in my world. Because I'm like, come look at this.
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But the bottom line is it's about a person. So maybe there's some truth in there. That's why I don't like these sermons that just go, these sermon series that just, when people say, hey, we go text by text, verse by verse. But sometimes you miss the big picture doing that.
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I mean, how many times did our dad come in from a fishing trip or come in from a hunting trip, and he would just stick his head in the door, and here we are, and he's like, come check it out.
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Yeah. You know, and I'm like, oh, my goodness. It was usually a 35-pound Opeliza catfish.
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Which I would argue the cell phone has tried to take Jesus' mantra. And that's why everybody has a cell phone.
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And we do crazier and wilder. People are breaking their neck trying to do four flips. They start making up stuff to do. Yeah, and it's like, The thrill of victory and the agony of defeat, both works. And just to get people to come and see.
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That's what they do, which is here's – I'm going to give you how you can go about this. You should spend more time reading the Gospels – because that's when you go and see Jesus, than you do on your cell phone. And I will say, I spend more time in my life reading Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John than I do on my phone, which is, I thought about that before I was going to say it.
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But I think if you polled people, that might not be... going on yeah i mean but it's what do you what do you what are you putting in what if you read matthew mark luke and john on your cell phone well i think you would get partial credit but i'm i read a lot on my devices Well, that's true. And I would say. And some people, that's all they have now. They don't even have.
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But you know what I'm saying. You're sounds like a guilty man fighting for his life over there. But I just think it's fascinating that when God became a man, he was so confident in what you were going to see. Just watch me. I mean, that's basically what he said, watch me, which is something we say when we're toddlers. Watch me, watch me, watch me. And then we see it.
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We're like, okay, that wasn't that impressive. But they thought it was the greatest thing ever. And that's why I said we're immature in that. I mean, Jesus as an adult, that's what he portrayed. You're fascinated. Which, look, this is getting back to how I came to Jesus. Yeah. Literally reading the book of John, just wowed by this wasn't what I thought it was.
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I thought Christianity was rule-oriented. It was, you know, do this so you don't go to hell. You know, we need an escape hatch. I mean, I don't know what I thought, but I didn't think it was wow. Just looking at a human being who's claiming to be God, the way he functioned really wowed me. And I've continued to be wild.
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Which goes back to that mission, which, look, I was just reading the other night in Luke 11. Really not, doesn't have anything to do per se with, with what we've been studying. But when I read this, I thought, well, this is interesting, because I do think you've hit on something.
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When he said, come and see, after John had already said he would be the light of men, the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not understood it. And this kind of goes to, you know, Missy in one of her Bible studies was telling me the other night that she got an interesting question. She said the question was, How are we going to recognize Jesus when he comes back?
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Of course, Missy was like, what do you mean? When he left, it got into an interesting conversation, which I don't want to go down this rabbit hole, but I guess I'm here now. Because Jesus didn't have to levitate. He was no longer bound by... Time, space, or matter. Dimensions, right. Dimensions.
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So this gets interesting because even going back to something we've been talking about, this phrase, you know, I'm going to heaven, that kind of has a little bit negative connotation because people who view everything like that, number one, has to deal with all the times that heaven comes down in the Bible. It's like... through the temple, through the tabernacle, creation itself.
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He created the heavens, earth, and he was down on the planet walking around in the garden, temple, the tabernacle. Then you have Jesus coming down. Then he sends the Holy Spirit down from heaven. Then you get to Revelation 21, and then all of a sudden the church is coming down. the bride of Christ, remember? And he's like, there's a new heaven and a new earth. So it gets kind of complex.
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And the reason I've used that phrase before, you know, going to heaven, but it's kind of more like, it kind of leads people to think, oh, God made a mistake in creating the earth. And this, you know, he's going to burn it all and then rescue us, you know. And so it kind of makes people think like we're just hitchhikers waiting on a ride. Yeah. To go back to Zach's point about –
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We have nothing to do here. This thing's doomed. Yeah. And it tends to make people real negative and their messaging is negative. And you're like, well, wait a minute. Have we not missed something here? And what I'm proposing is Jesus by this, even calling his first disciples, he's putting this mission in their minds of, look, you're going to be me here forever.
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And that's why when you get to John 14, 15, and 16, you're really going to see it because he's like, I'm going to go and represent you in heaven, and you're going to represent me. I'll come to you through my spirit, and you start operating like me. I think the problem we have with wrapping our heads around that is that we're flawed. Even Zach earlier said, but Peter, you didn't quite get it.
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But neither did Thomas. Right. Neither did Mary. She's crying, grabbing ahold of him. He's like, hey, I got to go. This is part of the, this.
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Well, let's make a deal. Drop the iso and the exa, and let's just talk about Jesus.
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Maybe you can lead with that next time. I'll lead with that because this is where I was going anyway. Yeah.
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Well, it's like I'm pretty sure, you know, people would say the Roman road has brought a lot of people to Jesus. But when you kind of look at that, you're just kind of taking verses out of the context of which they were written and combining them to make kind of a way to convince somebody you're out. There's a way in. Right.
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So, you know, I'm not saying that's necessarily wrong in the short term, because a lot of people, they're like, well, that's how it came to Christ, was the Romans Road. And I'm like, well, but once you start studying more and getting into, these men were carried along by the Holy Spirit as they wrote. I mean, even in John's letter, it seems to be very crafty in that
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He introduces all these big, giant thoughts in the first chapter. And then it starts breaking down into everyday practical conversations through the Word becoming flesh. His name was Jesus, the Son of God. And he doesn't operate like you would think. I mean, like one of the questions I give in a Bible study is not, some kind of trap on verses on what you believe.
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One of the things I'll say is, if you read one of the Gospels, does your life look like Jesus? Yeah. It's a very profound question. Right. Because usually the answer is no, or I haven't read the book. in its entirety enough to really relate. I think people are just looking at verses like, have I checked all the boxes? And I'm fine.
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Ep 1042 | Jase Goes Wide-Eyed at Alternate Realities in the Bible & 2 Super Awkward Bible Misquotes
The mystery of godliness is that Christ is in you. He says that in Colossians. What's that look like? Or 1 John 4, you mentioned that earlier. In this world, we are like him. Or 1 John 2, where he says, whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did. I mean, there's just... These are just coming off the top of my head. It's over and over and over and over.
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Ep 1042 | Jase Goes Wide-Eyed at Alternate Realities in the Bible & 2 Super Awkward Bible Misquotes
So yesterday I go to the store in my pajamas. I come home and Missy's like, why would you go to the store in your pajamas? And I said, I wanted to be comfortable. I was wearing Cozy Earth, which you gave me for Christmas. That's right.
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Ep 1042 | Jase Goes Wide-Eyed at Alternate Realities in the Bible & 2 Super Awkward Bible Misquotes
I think when he calls his first disciples. It's just not what we would think how it would go down, which is where we left off. John the Baptist said, look, here's the Lamb of God. So he had... obviously figured something out, even though it seems like he's questioning who Jesus is along the way. Right. Especially when Jesus wanted to be baptized by him, especially when John was in prison.
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Ep 1042 | Jase Goes Wide-Eyed at Alternate Realities in the Bible & 2 Super Awkward Bible Misquotes
He was like, go ask him if he's still the one.
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Ep 1042 | Jase Goes Wide-Eyed at Alternate Realities in the Bible & 2 Super Awkward Bible Misquotes
Are you sure this is what we're supposed to be doing? It reminds me of that song, you know, you're still the one. Are you still the one? Right. You're still the one. So... These two disciples who we've, I guess we've deemed Peter and maybe John.
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Ep 1042 | Jase Goes Wide-Eyed at Alternate Realities in the Bible & 2 Super Awkward Bible Misquotes
Andrew and John, then they went and got Peter. Right. But all he says is he turns around and says, what do you want? And they said, where are you staying? Where are you staying? which they didn't answer the question, which I think it goes to our basic humanity. We're embarrassed that we're stalking people. I mean, the answer should have been, we wanted to know if you are the Messiah.
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Ep 1042 | Jase Goes Wide-Eyed at Alternate Realities in the Bible & 2 Super Awkward Bible Misquotes
Because that's what they'd heard. Yeah. And that's what John had told them, John the Baptist. Normal human beings don't like confrontation or conflict, so they were a little deceitful.
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Ep 1042 | Jase Goes Wide-Eyed at Alternate Realities in the Bible & 2 Super Awkward Bible Misquotes
Of course, so then it gets into this.
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Ep 1033 | Jase Uncovers a Bible Verse That Caused Extreme Rage & the Mind-Boggling Disaster Zone in NC
I am unashamed.
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Ep 1033 | Jase Uncovers a Bible Verse That Caused Extreme Rage & the Mind-Boggling Disaster Zone in NC
Well, to your point, where is Isaiah 40 quoted here? I think 23. It says, John replied in the words of Isaiah the prophet. I mean, he doesn't just give a quote. John says, replied in the words of, he has this for a point. I mean, he's bringing up Isaiah. Well, this is Isaiah 40. We're in John 1. 23 says, I am the voice of one calling in the desert, make straight the way for the Lord.
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So when you go to Isaiah 40, oh man, have y'all read that lately? I would like, I would, I would like to read this. I mean, I know, you know, people, when they preach, they say the last thing we'll do is read large section of scripture, but this is so, I mean, it is just passionately encouraging. to read this and how this is fulfilled. I mean, Zach brought up that 400 years of silence.
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And so I'm sure they were beginning to wonder if Isaiah knew what he was talking about. But after that, I mean, it just makes it that more spectacular. So Isaiah 40 says, comfort, comfort my people, says your God. Speak tenderly to Jerusalem and proclaim to her that our hard service has been completed, that her sin has been paid for.
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that she has received from the Lord's hand double for all her sins. And then here it is. The rugged places a plain. And the glory of the Lord will be revealed. Sound familiar? And all mankind together will see it. That's a huge statement right there. For the mouth of the Lord has spoken. What has spoken? The mouth of the Lord.
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Ep 1033 | Jase Uncovers a Bible Verse That Caused Extreme Rage & the Mind-Boggling Disaster Zone in NC
Well, even if you just go back to John 1, we just read where it says in verse 4, in him was life and that life was the light of mankind. We have seen his glory. Where was that at in John 1?
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The word became flesh, made his dwelling amongst us. We have seen his glory. So it's the same language exactly. So verse 6 says, a voice of Isaiah 40. Cry out, and I said, what shall I cry? All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field. The grass withers and the flowers fall. Because the breath of the Lord blows on them.
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Ep 1033 | Jase Uncovers a Bible Verse That Caused Extreme Rage & the Mind-Boggling Disaster Zone in NC
Well, that's going to come up again in John 20, where remember where he breathed the Spirit on them? I made a point about that on the last podcast. I was just relating it to John, you know.
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Ep 1033 | Jase Uncovers a Bible Verse That Caused Extreme Rage & the Mind-Boggling Disaster Zone in NC
It is. Surely the people are grass. The grass withers and the flowers fall. Watch this statement. But the word of our God stands forever. Well, who's the word? The word became flesh. I mean, it's not just like one reference. Oh, there's John the Baptist. He was referenced in Isaiah.
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Ep 1033 | Jase Uncovers a Bible Verse That Caused Extreme Rage & the Mind-Boggling Disaster Zone in NC
You're starting to think that John, when he wrote this, he went back to Genesis, and then he spent a little time on Isaiah 40 and said, let me write something here. Yeah. So I think there's an episode on The Chosen. I think it's season two, episode one, that from John's perspective, the Sons of Thunder kind of vibe, where he's like going through, how should I write this letter?
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Ep 1033 | Jase Uncovers a Bible Verse That Caused Extreme Rage & the Mind-Boggling Disaster Zone in NC
And it does what I'm illustrating here. Psalm 8, Isaiah 40, Genesis 1 and 2. And then it's really a beautiful episode. Verse 9 of Isaiah 40. You who bring good tidings to Zion, go up on a high mountain. You who bring good tidings to Jerusalem, lift up your voice with a shout. Lift it up. Do not be afraid. Say to the towns of Judah, here is your God.
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Ep 1033 | Jase Uncovers a Bible Verse That Caused Extreme Rage & the Mind-Boggling Disaster Zone in NC
See, the sovereign Lord comes with power and his arm rules for him. See, his reward is with him, and his recompense accompanies him. He tends his flock like a shepherd. Was that going to come up? Yeah. He gathers the lambs in his arms. He carries them close to his heart. He gently leads those that have young. Who has measured the waters or the breadth of his hand marked off?
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Ep 1033 | Jase Uncovers a Bible Verse That Caused Extreme Rage & the Mind-Boggling Disaster Zone in NC
I wonder who we're talking about there. There's a lot of talk in John 14, 15, and 16 about a counselor. Whom did the Lord consult to enlighten him? And who taught him the right way? Who was it that taught him knowledge or showed him the path of understanding? Surely the nations are like a drop in the bucket.
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Ep 1033 | Jase Uncovers a Bible Verse That Caused Extreme Rage & the Mind-Boggling Disaster Zone in NC
They are regarded as dust on the scales as he weighs the islands as though they were fine dust. Lebanon is not sufficient for altar fires nor its animals enough for burnt offerings. Before him all the nations are as nothing. They are regarded by him as worthless and less than nothing. To whom then will you compare God? What image will you compare him to?
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Ep 1033 | Jase Uncovers a Bible Verse That Caused Extreme Rage & the Mind-Boggling Disaster Zone in NC
As for an idol, a craftsman casts it and a goldsmith overlays it with gold and fashions silver chains for it. A man too poor to present such an offering selects wood that will not rot. He looks for a skilled craftsman to set up an idol that will not topple. Do you not know? Have you not heard? Has it not been told you from the beginning? Have you not understood since the earth was founded?
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Ep 1033 | Jase Uncovers a Bible Verse That Caused Extreme Rage & the Mind-Boggling Disaster Zone in NC
He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy and spreads them out like a tent to live in.
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Oh, exactly. I'm not even stopping and thinking. Even that statement about saying he spreads out the heavens and spreads them out like a tent to live in. Well, when you look at how that was framed by John when he said, and the word became flesh. and made His dwelling among us, that word for dwelling, the tabernacling, which is to pitch a tent and live. I mean, the language here is incredible.
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Yeah. All right, well, let me finish this for just now. I mean, look, this is building into excitement, and you're going to be ready to go out and spread your wings and fly here. Verse 23 of 40. He brings princes to naught and reduces the rulers of this world to nothing. No sinner are they planted. No sinner are they sown. No sinner do they take root in the ground.
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Then he blows on them and they wither. And a whirlwind sweeps them away like chaff. Chaff. So much for... Putting all your eggs in the modern kingdom basket. I mean, it's just like, they gone. Verse 25, to whom will you compare me? Or who is my equal, says the Holy One? Lift your eyes and look to the heavens. Who created all these?
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He who brings out the starry hosts one by one and calls them each by name. Because of his great power and mighty strength, not one of them is missing. Why do you say, O Jacob, and complain, O Israel? My way is hidden from the Lord. My cause is disregarded by my God. Humans have a way of complaining, and that hasn't gone away. Do you not know? Have you not heard?
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The Lord is the everlasting God, the creator of the ends of the earth. He will not grow tired or weary. In his understanding, no one can fathom. He gives strength to the weary and increases the power of the weak. Even youths grow tired and weary, and young men stumble and fall. But those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles.
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Ep 1033 | Jase Uncovers a Bible Verse That Caused Extreme Rage & the Mind-Boggling Disaster Zone in NC
They will run and not grow weary. They will walk and not be faint. So I know we've heard those last few verses, but not in the context of John 1 where it started back there when he's like, there's going to be a voice crying out in the wilderness preparing the way for the Lord, realizing who the mighty God is and them complaining that he doesn't care and he's not aware.
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Well, it sounds a lot like our world. And that's why my number one thing when I share Jesus with somebody is I'm like, go home or go to your apartment or go to the hotel and read the book of John. Who is Jesus? That's why I'm doing that.
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Yeah, I think he's going through a lot of things. I mean, he's revealing the character. He's revealing that he's Israel's Messiah. You know, he's going back to Isaiah. But he's also revealing a new way for them to study the Bible. I think the technical term for that is hermeneutic. Because later on, not only did he mention Isaiah, he's not just saying... Oh, there was a cool story on Isaiah.
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Ep 1033 | Jase Uncovers a Bible Verse That Caused Extreme Rage & the Mind-Boggling Disaster Zone in NC
He's like, this is the guy. Yeah. Right here. And then later he does it again in John 5 when it says, when he records that conversation that Jesus was having. I believe it was with the Pharisees. While you're looking that up, let me just say this about the sermon. Well, I have the verse. I just, I don't know exactly who he was talking to.
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Ep 1033 | Jase Uncovers a Bible Verse That Caused Extreme Rage & the Mind-Boggling Disaster Zone in NC
But when he said, you diligently study the scriptures, John 5, 39. because you think by them you possess eternal life. These are the scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life. That's it. I mean, I'm saying he's piggybacking, and there's a reason he has that in that story, which Jesus said it, and he recorded it.
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But there's a whole new way for you to study these scriptures, which has been missed in our culture.
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And the way that he set up the book, the first chapter, he gives all these little nuggets that are pretty hard to wrap your head around. And then once Chapter 2 starts, it's like all these pictures – like in practical Jesus behavior that he did. I mean, because where does this come up again?
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John 3, guy comes in the middle of the night and he's like, hey, I see you must be from God because nobody could be doing these things. And Jesus is like, you need to be born again or born from above. You know, when you look at what the Greek word includes, they always put that in the margin. Because they're really not sure how to translate that.
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I mean, just like here, it's like, what does he mean that you got to be born, but it's not born of natural, so it's not talking about a baby, physical baby, or of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God?
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Yeah, I think it was about God making a promise and then being faithful to the promise, which is that all people are created by God, and He lives. displayed his love by sending Jesus to rescue them all. Yeah, that's it. I mean, but God's been faithful. Even, you know, when you go back to Israel, it showed, well, God was faithful, but the people weren't.
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So really, the law that he gave for, you know, was a good thing. These were all positive things, but it just made Israel look in the mirror and they realized they weren't faithful. I mean, it would be like any kind of marriage situation where one is faithful and one is not. But God, since he is God, didn't give up on humanity or Israel as a nation, but that's why we now have Jesus.
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And that's why all these references are going back to Israel because did he give up on them? No, he was faithful. He actually sent an Israelite to save him as himself.
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Ep 1033 | Jase Uncovers a Bible Verse That Caused Extreme Rage & the Mind-Boggling Disaster Zone in NC
Well, don't you think this has something to do, even in Galatians 3, when we're talking about where you're from, and you have this idea that you have to have basically what Zach said. You can come to Jesus, but you have to uphold the Jewish traditions, and in this case, circumcision.
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But he starts off Galatians in chapter 1, where is that, 3 or 4, where he says, rescue us from the present evil age. Yeah, Galatians 1, 3 and 4 says, grace and peace to you from our God and Father, the Lord Jesus Christ, who gave himself for our sins to rescue us from the present evil age. And then he's going to end In Galatians 6, you know, where he says, circumcision accounts for nothing.
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Ep 1033 | Jase Uncovers a Bible Verse That Caused Extreme Rage & the Mind-Boggling Disaster Zone in NC
What counts is a new creation. Yeah. So that's... Verse 15. Yeah, verse 15. So just think where that's bookended. In verse 14, I have to read of chapter 6, because it says, you can only boast in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ through which the world... has been crucified to me and I to the world. What world? What world?
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This world that has dividing lines as far as what nationality, what, you know, from Adam's sin on, this world of making our own gods and All this separation. And in the middle, I mean, I'm summing that up kind of quick. But in the middle, you know, we have this about the law and the promise, which is why I brought up God made a promise and he kept it. And he was faithful. And faith.
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Ep 1033 | Jase Uncovers a Bible Verse That Caused Extreme Rage & the Mind-Boggling Disaster Zone in NC
was introduced to us because of God's faithfulness, and he talks about the law and Abraham, but then he gets to verse 26 of chapter three and he says, you're all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For all of you who are baptized into Christ have clothed yourself with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek. Well, that's quite a statement. There's neither Jew nor Greek?
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Ep 1033 | Jase Uncovers a Bible Verse That Caused Extreme Rage & the Mind-Boggling Disaster Zone in NC
This whole, for a Jew to hear that? That had to cause incredible damage
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Ep 1033 | Jase Uncovers a Bible Verse That Caused Extreme Rage & the Mind-Boggling Disaster Zone in NC
rage i'm sure it was somewhat controversial so i think yeah i think when you tie this in i mean i gave an overview of that because it because ephesians is a lot easier to understand because he starts off saying christ basically came here at the time he did to bring all things in heaven and on earth under one head he's bringing them all together
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Ep 1033 | Jase Uncovers a Bible Verse That Caused Extreme Rage & the Mind-Boggling Disaster Zone in NC
And then he goes on to chapter 2, and what does he say? Jesus destroyed the wall between Jews. Yeah, the hostility.
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Yeah. But I would submit there's one other thing you left out that led to the Tower Bible. He also told them to fill the earth, be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth. There was a mission that he had for them. And I believe that's the same thing on why we're. receiving this new birth goes back to Jesus saying, all authority in heaven and earth has been given to me. Do what?
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Ep 1033 | Jase Uncovers a Bible Verse That Caused Extreme Rage & the Mind-Boggling Disaster Zone in NC
Go make disciples of all nations, no matter where you're from. And I think that dividing people into sections across the country was not what he had in mind.
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Ep 1033 | Jase Uncovers a Bible Verse That Caused Extreme Rage & the Mind-Boggling Disaster Zone in NC
Well, we didn't even mention when John recorded in chapter 8 when Jesus, he just came out and said, I am the light of the world. That's 8.12. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life, which that's what we do. I mean, we reveal as Jesus the character of God. And you have all those passages where he's like, you've seen me, you've seen the Father.
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I can do nothing without my Father. I mean, and when we have his spirit, that just continues. That is the mouthpiece of God that reveals his character in our lives. And one of the greatest things you can do is when people are in need or struggling or tragedy happens. I just thought even the theme of, you know, John's.
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first chapter seems complex and a bit poetic, but he's basically making the case for Jesus. And then when you put all the things he did together, I mean, just think of the I am statements. You know, I am the true vine. I am the resurrection of life. I am the way, the truth, the life on the gate for the sheep. I am before Abraham was, I am I probably missed a few. Yeah, I think there were seven.
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There were seven, yeah. But I mean, some of them, there's multiple within the statement. I think I actually have this written down somewhere. Yeah. I am the bread of life. I'm the light of the world. I'm the gate for the sheep. I'm the good shepherd. I'm the resurrection and the life. I am the way, the truth, the life, and the true vine.
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But when you add that to even maybe where he says, I will, I jotted some of those down. I will never drive those away who come to me. I'll make you fishers of men. I will give you rest. I will keep you. I will love you. I will do what you ask in my name. I will come again. I will see you again. I will send the Holy Spirit to you. I will build my church.
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And when you think about, I can, well, look at all the miracles. I can take a small portion of food and feed 5,000. I can heal diseases. I can drive out demons. It starts making you... All of a sudden, it hits you. This is the Son of God on planet Earth.
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And so it's not that crazy to say... This is God's flashlight to the earth for everybody living here wondering where they came from or what they're supposed to be doing or what happens next. He came.
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And was real adamant about saying, no, I'm not the light.
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So yesterday I go to the store in my pajamas. I come home and Missy's like, why would you go to the store in your pajamas? And I said, I wanted to be comfortable. I was wearing Cozy Earth, which you gave me for Christmas. That's right.
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Well, it's like when you, we've heard many testimonies and a lot of times they come from young Christians and they get up and tell their story. Well, that's great. But the light is God's story. That is it. I mean, it's like when you did the, Zach, you were producing the movie about my dad. I mean, there was a line in there that I'm not sure who said it. You'll probably remember it.
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But he's like, well, I want to get my family back. But ultimately, when you think about Genesis 3 to Revelation 22, somebody said this one time, some quote I read, and I thought, okay, it's God getting his family back of humans. Yeah. I'm saying the movies we make, the testimonies we have, it's only possible through Jesus coming through history. That's the overall narrative of life itself.
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These are just our little stories are the consequences of that. But Jesus coming and this all fitting together from a biblical standpoint is the flashlight. It is the book of all books.
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Which is a reference to people taking some verses in Revelation and have them equated to Black Hawk helicopters, literally. Yeah. Or rumors of wars.
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Zach, I would also argue why there's so much argument about when the dates of these letters were written. Because a lot of people who have a different view of an actual temple being set up, they tend to date the Bible way later.
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The problem with that is, then you have the most significant event that happened to Israel since, I would argue, the parting of the Red Sea, and they were liberated from Egypt. The destruction of the temple in AD 70. Well, then if you put these dates way later...
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Then you now have the most significant event, which was the destruction of the physical temple in AD 70, never being mentioned in the Bible.
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When it had been pointed to so much. I mean, the literal temple was destroyed in AD 70, and the Bible never mentions it?
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Well, then I'm not a smart fellow, but I'm thinking, I guess this was written before that happened.
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No, we are. And I'll read the verse. I've read it many times with that. Revelation 21, 22 says, I did not see a temple in the city because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. I'm not sure how you square through that. Yeah, we've read it before, but I just... I don't know what you're going to do with that.
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Look, especially when it's so good news that God has chosen, despite all our flaws and our past, to live with human beings in such an intimate setting, down deep into your inner soul and being. And it makes the spiritual warfare aspect of it way more real. I mean, the other night when I went to that event, I shared on the last podcast,
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I dare say there was a little voice in me saying, you represent the Lord God Almighty. So it wasn't about me overcoming temptation as much as it was, I need to share Jesus with these people as an ambassador of Christ and my partnership with God in this vocation and ministry of sharing Jesus to an earth filled with people who need it.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
So I did it, which I noticed, oh, by the way, I also did way less sinning because I was busy doing something for the Lord. And I think it's okay to say that because you're like, well, you can't technically do anything. No, but I'm partnered with the Holy Spirit. And when you're in a setting where there's a lot of sin going on, the best thing you can do is start talking about Jesus.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
Because it draws a line in the sand.
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I'm going to put that song on my playlist. I'm the tax man.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
It's a theme line of the whole Bible.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
He was, but one of them has the following text. Now I'm going to have to go look it up. After this happened, remember that time when Jesus said they were asking about authority? Same question, because this was about signs. I mean, one of the other gospels. They have this scene of him. This is right after he cleared the temple. And then they question his authority.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
And then he gave that illustration about John's baptism. Was it from heaven or from men? Oh, yeah. So I'm saying that seems to fit more with the John 2. But why are we bringing up John the Baptist? Because he happened right off the bat. Right. But I don't know. Maybe it could be just a coincidence.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
Yeah.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
Yeah. It's Mark 11, uh, So this is quite a ways into Mark.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
So look, so Mark 11, 12 is where Jesus clears the temple. Yep. So there is one little scene in between the withered fig tree. But then it says in verse 27, they arrived again in Jerusalem while Jesus was walking in the temple courts, the chief priests. So it's right after he cleared the temple. Right. It says, and who gave you authority to do this? And Jesus replied, I will ask you one question.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
Answer me, and I will tell you by what authority I'm doing these things. John's baptism, was it from heaven or from men? Tell me. Of course, they discussed it, said, well, if we say from heaven, he'll say, well, why didn't you believe him? But if we say from men, they feared the people, for everyone held that John really was a prophet. So they answered Jesus, well, we don't know.
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Of course, I really wanted to hear Jesus' answer here. Exactly. And like his basis for making the answer.
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Because it would have been helpful. My whole point for bringing that up is because now we make a transition. Or John does. And like verse, where did we leave off?
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
Verse 23 when he says, Now while he was in Jerusalem at the Passover feast, which I think is an important context for what's fixed to happen, at the Passover feast, many people saw the miraculous signs he was doing and believed in his name. But Jesus would not entrust himself to them For he knew all men.
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He did not need man's testimony about man, for he knew what was in a man. And I'm not going to stop there just because I think it matters the next verse because it's like, now there was a man. Hmm. of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a member of the Jewish council. I think he falls into the category that everyone else does also, that Jesus is not trusting you for answers, and rightfully so.
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Because if you were going to trust anyone as a... religious people in this day, Nicodemus would probably be high on the list because he was a member of the Jewish ruling council. And so they get into quite the discussion after that. So I don't know if you want to stop and talk about that, what that means about him not trusting.
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Probably because they didn't understand. Yeah. They got it wrong. Yeah.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
I think it goes into the thought. I don't know. I'm just speculating. You know, those verses where Paul says that God doesn't need anything from us. He himself gives all men a life. Because we tend to be like that. Oh, like we're doing God some favor, you know, that he needs us for whatever. No, he doesn't. That's why he'll make verses, statements that seem complex.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
Remember when he says, for I didn't, you didn't choose me, but I chose you. It's not based on you, what you think about me. Obviously, you don't know. Or you wouldn't need me. Right.
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I think we can all agree that we don't know. And if somebody claims they, we're not omniscient. It's just weird that in three of the Gospels, it happens much later. And in one, it happens.
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I think, yeah.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
So yesterday I go to the store in my pajamas. I come home and Missy's like, why would you go to the store in your pajamas? And I said, I wanted to be comfortable. I was wearing Cozy Earth, which you gave me for Christmas. That's right.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
And Dave was preaching, did a good job. But he was doing it on Ephesians 4, 20 through 24. And he was talking about your new mind and this transition. You know, if you read the verse, it's like, you know, put off your old self, which is being corrupted by its evil desires. to be made new in the attitude in your minds and to put on the new self. So that's what he talked about. Yeah.
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But that last little phrase, which he didn't really talk too much about, that's what I thought for our discussion, because it says created to be like God in true righteousness and wholeness. I'm like, The reason they're having trouble wrapping their heads around this old building of a temple and the new temple is he's, from John 1-1 all the way to now, he's introducing a new creation.
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It's not that just he's the temple that he's dying and being buried and raised, but the people who then surrender to him become part of that new creation. This is making everything right. Exactly.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
And that's why it emphasizes on what he's doing now in our life, because that's why when he goes into the practical things here, and I've used this illustration numerous times here, but in verse 28 of Ephesians 4, when he says, he who has been stealing must steal no longer, to your point, Zach, it's not about so much you're robbing the temple,
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
It's that, but he must work doing something useful with his own hands so that he may share with something. He's looking at what the new creation is going to bring by him Dying for our sins, overcoming the evil powers against us, creating this hope of never dying. And in the meantime, you now functioning as members of his kingdom and showing that God is here.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
So good. I would say over 90% of these sermons in America on every Sunday is what you don't do. It's like he died for your sins, and now you got to clean that up and have as few as possible, and then you might make it. Maybe. Maybe.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
Why have we been in decline for decades? Which brings us, I think, to John 3, one of the most controversial, there's more ways to believe what in the world is he talking about here. And so we're going to, hang out here for a while because there's multiple views of what this means. Yeah.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
But I do think it's a good foundation to realize that what started John's conversation about this is that Jesus wasn't trusting what men thought. That's right.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
And it was during the Passover feast, which I think is going to be important to my take on this. And I'll see what y'all think. But I'll just, you want to read it?
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
Well, and we're introduced something that Mark quickly gets to in his gospel. But here, I think this is the first time that the kingdom of God is mentioned here.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
Which is pretty awesome. Well, I did see a new poll. Who's the group that does the poll? Pew. I saw that. Pew Research. Yeah, that was like the first time in, what, 100 years? No, I don't know how many years it was.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
Now, here's my take. I'm going to read this, give you my take about the context. Y'all, whatever you thought I believed on this, I've made a shift in my thinking. And it was because I thought, man, why are there so many disagreements on really what this phrase means where it says, and I'm going to just read this out of context first, where when Jesus, verse 5, after he tells Nicodemus this,
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
Well, I guess I have. Let me just read it. Verse 3. In reply, Jesus declared, I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God. Felt like we needed a drum roll to that. No one can see the kingdom of God unless he's born again. Well, how can a man be born when he's old? Nicodemus asked. Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
A lot of years that there were actually an uptick in people. Putting their faith in Jesus. Yeah. I don't know how they worded it. Right. It had been in a decline for a while.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
Now, Will, just before I read verse 5, I'll give you a little background. When he says that born again in verse 3, there's a little letter behind it, and it says, or from above. Born from above. And I immediately... Does that sound familiar? Mm-hmm. In chapter 1, remember in verse 12, it says...
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Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, children born not of natural descent or of human decision or of a husband's will, but born of God or born from above. Yeah.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
Verse 5, Jesus answered, I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to the Spirit. You should not be surprised at my saying, you must be born again. And then he starts talking about the wind. It blows wherever it pleases.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from, where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit. Nicodemus now, he's just like, smoke is rising off his head. He said, well, how can this be? Now, this is one of the reasons I kind of changed the context of what I was taught is because of this next verse.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
Because he said, well, you are Israel's teacher, and you do not understand these things? That made me stop in my tracks when I read this, again, for the 40 years of following Jesus. Because I thought, he must have said something that he thought Nicodemus should have, being an Israelite of Israelites, that he should have been familiar with.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
So what I'm going to share with you is probably you're going to think, whoa. Because that's the reason I started trying to look back to the Old Testament thinking, why was Jesus thinking he should have known what he was talking about? And so I'll make that point at some point. We probably won't have time today. But I want to keep reading. I tell you the truth.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
We speak of what we know and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. I have spoken to you of earthly things and you will not believe. How then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
So whatever he said, when he said there was some earthly things that he was talking about, the things that happened on the earth, which is the reason I have a new context for this. Verse 13, no one has ever gone into heaven, except the one who came from heaven, the Son of Man. Well, now he's speaking about himself in the third person.
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And that's the same phrase that he used back here at the latter to Nathanael, John 1, 64.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
Anytime you see that word, son of man, which also discusses what topic? Yeah. The kingdom, right? Yes. This coming kingdom. So before we do our next podcast, go back and read Daniel two and Daniel seven and look for key phrases, son of man and kingdom. Yep. And you'll find out that the kingdom that Daniel is prophesying about is an eternal kingdom.
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It will crush all other kingdoms.
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And to make this foundation even stronger... Remember, I've said this before, I put a lot of emphasis on, I was emphasizing the word emphasis. That's easy for you to say. Well, that was a joke. I was emphasizing emphasis. I know, I got it, I got it. So look, in Mark 1, the first thing he said in Mark, you remember what it was?
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
Verse 14, after John was put in prison, Jesus went into Galilee proclaiming the good news of God. And here's the first red letters in Mark. The time is here. He said, the kingdom of God is near. Repent and believe the good news. What's he talking about? Right. So not to get down that rabbit hole yet, because I want to get back to John.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
So then it says in verse 14 of John 3, now here's another reason I kind of looked at the context. Just as Moses, well, you think this guy was familiar with Moses? I think he knew Moses. Knew him like the back of his hand.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
Now, you see the case I'm making for context of going back, because he said, because I got to reading, I think the problem with just reading the first five verses and then asking the controversial question, which is, what did Jesus mean by being born of water and the Spirit?
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That's the controversial statement. Right. And there's at least five views that I found on what people, who are smart people who love God, Who disagree on. Yeah, scholars. Scholars everywhere, religious groups everywhere. There's a take on what did he mean by being, now we kind of get the spirit, but we're like, well, why did he throw in water in there? Right. What is that talking about? Right.
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And, boy, I'll save you some time because some of them, in my opinion, are just ridiculous. But people, God-loving people, really think because they just don't make – it doesn't make sense what he's talking about.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
Natural birth or even things I don't even want to say. Because water breaks. I'm too embarrassed to even say it in public. So, yeah. So verse 14, he says, just as Moses lifted up the snake in the desert, so the sun must be lifted up that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life. So I'm building a pattern, and I've said this before, and I'm saying it again.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
When Jesus came, because of the cryptic nature of the prophecy and all, He's going back to fulfilling these prophecies, which are sometimes hard for us to wrap our head around 2,000 years later because it was in the Jewish Israelite world. So we go back and see how he fulfilled it. But we also go forward.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
Because at this point, he starts talking about he's going to baptize you with the Holy Spirit. So there's things that he's going back to. Moses, you're Israel's teacher. Shouldn't you know what I'm talking about? And then he's also- Looking forward. Looking forward. And he also mentioned the line about, I've spoken to you about earthly things, like things that happened in the past. Right.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
So then it gets to verse 16, which is another reason that I changed my view on the context of this. Because then he says, for God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son. Now look, we tend to focus on he gave his one and only son that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. But I focus just for the context on that first phrase. For God so loved the world.
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Ep 1053 | Jase Adopts a Trick to Combat Spiritual Warfare & Why We Can’t Predict the End of Days
Well, who's he talking to? He's talking to an Israelite. He's bringing up what happened in Israel's history. He's bringing up Moses. And now all of a sudden he's telling this guy, because what is this guy? What do we know about a Pharisee? He's thinking the only way you're getting to heaven is if you were born an Israelite. And now all of a sudden he says all this.
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He introduces this idea about born of the Spirit. Then he says, for God so loved the world. Well, that seems like we're talking about everybody. Well, for Nicodemus, that had to be like, wait, what? I mean, he focused on that first statement. He was like, I thought you were Israel. You know, we're representing Israel. You're talking about loving the world, the whole world?
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If you're ever going to leave a cliffhanger to a podcast, let's go with John 3.
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Well, what is the Gather 25? What does that mean? It's a 25, 2025.
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Well, we're constantly learning and growing, connecting the dots of the Bible. I know some of this gets deep sometimes, but like we said last podcast, Even Paul called this a mystery. Yeah. I mean, the whole plan of God in Ephesians 1, he said this was a mystery and it was kept hidden. And there is something to be said in the Bible about the God versus the little g gods. Yeah.
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Because I was like, if I was going to try to gather everybody up, I'd shoot for more than 25. That seemed like a low number to you.
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And the power of God against all other powers that are anti-God. And so... It is confusing because even his disciples didn't get it till after the fact. Right. And for us, it should be easier because now after the fact, you can go back and connect all the dots. But it is a mystery that is revealed in Jesus to God's plan. So...
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And the reality is he's doing that now. Come be a part of it. Join us. Be a member of the kingdom of heaven on earth in this moment. So it makes people realize this is what God is doing now through Jesus. Exactly. There's a purpose here. Because I think if you don't put all these dots together, you tend to just be sitting there, as I coined one time, waiting for a ride.
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If I could just get a ride. That's how hitchhiking became a thing. Exactly. Because you got to be on the move. I just need a ride. Well, what are you doing while you're hitchhiking? Nothing. That's right.
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So that's why when I read that Ephesians 2, if God has made his dwelling among you now and you've become the temple of the living God on earth, your life would look drastically different wherever you go.
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These are not Tesla mechs, man. These are diesel mechs.
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Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting too because that carries over. I mean, what we're talking about, we're talking about little tiny mechs that are an inch or two on your screen, depending on the size of your screen, obviously.
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But even, even at that scale, because of the way they're designed, every mech, every footstep feels like it has so much weight where you're like, oh my God, you know, that just big clunky thing that was made out of the thickest steel that they had available in these times, man. It's so cool that the aesthetic is amazing guys.
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I'm getting the feeling this is Luke's thing. Luke was probably pushing for this from the beginning. They're like, World War II, and he was like, oh, well, how about mechs, guys? I mean... It's probably a mix of both.
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Well, I was going to say, so as I get older, you know, we're all busy adults here and we have other projects, especially as working adults outside of like our podcast and our gaming and stuff. And something that, again, you guys kind of like, it's almost like you designed this game for me.
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It's heavy mechs, it's World War II, it's real-time strategy, and then it's displayed in such a way where you can play it in short, digestible play times and every single time have a meaningful experience out of it. The amount of variety that you guys were able to pack into this is awesome. And as Scott was mentioning, like you have these maps that you're able to basically see the whole map
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in one screen without having to like scroll all over the place and you can rotate it and get different angles on it. So you can see where, you know, enemy deployments and stuff are coming from. And it's just such a, it's such a unique and refreshing take on this. I wanted to, I wanted to go back to something. You guys have mentioned a concept called a game jam a couple of times.
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It's something that you mentioned that I really like from this concept. So like, I'm assuming that sometimes somebody will bring kind of like a more fully fleshed concept to the team and go, hey, I think this is the game we should be making. And then you kind of test it out.
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Whereas I don't remember if it was Luke or Scott who said this, but you made a remark of something like, because this came out of a game jam, everybody was sort of already bought in. So it's more like, like there's these kind of like general concepts that are floating around. And then through a joint effort, a, a more singular crystalline concept is manifested.
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And everybody now is like, oh man, we all had a part in making this. We all had a part in imagining it. And, and, uh, And now you have this great game that came out of it. So, but, um, I, you mentioned that you're like, the focus is finding the fun. Do you also go like, how do we have a unique voice in this space?
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Like, was there an intentionality behind going, okay, well, we want to do real time, but like, how can we do it unique? Like, you know, and, and then that evolves into this more short, short digestible level format, or can you, can you explain that? how that evolution goes?
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I couldn't help but notice when Josh was saying how close we are to release date, like Scott goes...
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hurry up get out of the way like the artillery is coming and then this guy's really slowly walking over there whereas the dragon i'm just going wherever i want kind of thing which i i like a lot so that was probably mine too plus i tend to favor like the bernie units a lot in in the games just seeing the poor little infantry melting in front of you is so cool yeah oh so did you guys i'm assuming you went through a round of play testing
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What was your favorite moment during playtesting? Is there a moment that stands out?
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So. So, do you... A lot of times you were saying that when you're doing these game jams, for instance, that nothing really comes out of it because whatever ideas just turn out to be insolvent or whatever. Is there a ridiculous idea that almost made it into the game that you guys ended up scrapping? Something that just was hilariously not workable?
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Just really long legs on them. If that's shareable offline or something, if it doesn't breach some sort of NDA or whatever, like offline after the episode, I would love to see those. That sounds really funny.
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Awesome. Hey guys, I've got a couple of like sort of rapid fire questions for you guys. Where in the world are you guys? Again, remind me that you're in the UK, in England, in the UK. What is the best part of an English breakfast?
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uh black pudding oh yeah i was gonna say yes well yeah that is such an underappreciated part here as americans man like it sounds weird blood pudding black pudding or whatever dude it is so good i say streaky baby is great but like yeah you gotta have that with black pudding and beans and stuff yeah what's the worst part um right He's thinking real hard. He's like, I love it all, man.
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Dude, the first time I went to the UK and somebody served me a trash can lid-sized breakfast with basically every possible thing you could have on, it was like my nirvana, man. That's my... top meal.
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No, no, no. It serves a very practical purpose. It's like once all the other food is gone, there's the grease and you use it to mop up the grease. What about who would win in a fight? A Warbringer mech from Grit and Valor or a Redemptor Dreadnought from Warhammer 40,000?
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Oh, that's a good question. Let's say they start at, let's give some range, like 200 yards. Meters. Sorry, meters.
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No, no, no, no, no. Just your run-of-the-mill, like, successor chapter, like, you know, less epic Redemptor. Versus, like, your best mech.
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They're a lot older. That's interesting you say that. I feel like the Warbringer would have a size advantage on the Redemptor. Don't you?
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from 1949 so it's kind of like a show versus that's true the spiritual like grandparents of all the other mechs that's you know that's thorough fair enough that's that's like saying muhammad ali versus uh you know mike tyson or something it's just two two different eras and yeah okay last one for you guys what game that is coming out this year are you really excited for
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I'm with you on that. Pure testosterone game. Luke, you got one?
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It's too early to reply to that. I don't even know what you mean by that.
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So, guys, I have to ask. When I... We talked a little bit briefly offline before this episode about Warhammer. When I was growing up, like... You basically created the cheat code to get John interested in a game with this. Like you melded sort of like World War II kind of like feel with mechs and like Exo Squad was my favorite cartoon growing up. I've been playing Warhammer for 30 years.
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I, you know, my favorite game growing up was this, it was probably the first real-time strategy game called Herzog Zwei. I put hundreds and hundreds of hours into into games like Command & Conquer. And before this episode, you guys, you know, Scott, or sorry, Luke, for the listeners, he's got a shelf with a couple of Warhammer 40,000 armies into it. Scott mentioned he's got a box right off screen.
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Okay, I'll take the sandpaper. I'm not sure what to do with the softy part of it. John, there were four people that understood that reference, man.
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I mean, this had to have been like a dream project for you guys, right?
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So did you guys, like, how long... How do I phrase this? You mentioned that this game was intended to be a, just sort of like a World War II game and it evolved into this more mech kind of like, you know, gritty pseudo sci-fi sort of setting. Did you guys have influence in pushing it in that direction? Or how does, how does that work?
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How does a game evolve from sort of like one genre and style to another like this?
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Yeah, you did a great job, man. I think you plugged every possible reference from the demo into that intro. I've done my work. I've done my work, boys.
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Yeah, that's a really good blend. That's a really good blend. Do you feel like any games you've played recently have scratched that itch?
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Did adding the voice acting really enhance the game for you?
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Interesting. Yeah, that's actually been a barrier of entry for me for the Kingdom Hearts games. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm a huge Disney fan, huge Square Enix and Squaresoft fan before that. The aesthetic, the visuals, the concept of the game. I love them, but man, I just can't read all that text, dude. I need voice acting in my games.
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What do you have, a Keyblade?
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Very cool.
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So what's the good, what would be the best entry point if I were to start?
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I believe it. A little bit of a segue here, but isn't it interesting in the... In the Disney Mickey and Friends cartoons that they always give Goofy the most complicated jobs. Anytime they call for a pilot or a doctor or something, it's always Goofy who has that job.
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Hello, fellow gamers, and welcome to the Video Gamers Podcast. I am your host, John, and joining me is the only person whose favorite game you've definitely never heard of, is my co-host...
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There are some unexpected dart turns in this episode. To get back to the question, what two or three game genres would you combine for your ideal game? That's really tough, man. I... I think it would probably, I'd probably have to echo you. For me, getting a good Metroidvania with some RPG elements in it is probably the way to go. I do not like Souls-likes, so I probably would omit that part.
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But maybe, honestly for me, like maybe a cozy element to it or something.
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Yeah, and that's exactly where I'm at. Exactly. Dude, I'm playing Prince of Persia right now, and I almost rage quit. I can't believe I almost rage quit Prince of Persia, bro.
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Oh, have you played it?
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yeah for a metroidvania i mean it's it's it's top class but there are some absurdly for me anyways absurdly hard bosses in it i was i was absolutely shocked at the difficulty of some of the bosses in it all right amazing platforming though i've heard it's an amazing game it is dude i mean the number of different like uh control dynamics that they put in that game is just amazing Um, let's see.
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Morgau asks, until now, what game were you too embarrassed to admit that you enjoyed?
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And just zone out.
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Yeah, but I mean, I think that what you just described there is kind of like the magic of gaming. I don't remember who it was recently on the show that said, I think it was Ian actually with Make-A-Wish when he was saying like, look, you don't have to be a gamer. Not everyone's going to be a gamer, but whoever you are, there's a game out there for you. Yeah, absolutely.
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And like Cozy Games, for instance, for me,
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fill that niche you know if i'm like i don't need to barrel through something i don't need to die a hundred times on a boss i don't need to save the world man like some sometimes i for me my my embarrassing games are probably like the lego the lego games i absolutely love the lego games man i yeah those were ones i used to play a long time ago and i really got into some of those some of those were great did you have a favorite
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they uh there was a dc superheroes one that came out probably oh god it's probably been 10 years ago at this point 19 years ago at this point but man it's so good the first time i got my little lego superman and you hear the john williams theme that i've always loved those little like details they put into them because they have marvel games where they you can unlock stanley
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It's just, just simple, joyous fun. You know what I mean? Like, Ah, anyway, I don't know that I would say.
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Ooh, that's a good qualifier, yeah.
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Yeah. Oh, that's awesome, dude. I'm a Star Wars Lego guy, but, and I actually just like the city stuff too, man. Just the kind of like old school, like dude in a boat or in a spaceship kind of thing. Oh yeah. Yeah. Those are cool. If I could have any dream job, like playing with Legos professionally might be it.
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um architect yeah there you go lego architect i love it uh let's see if you could morph into only one animal at will which animal would you choose and why all right that's from steve by the way yeah it's from our buddy steve love you brother my one piece brother out there uh
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I've seen them. They are adorable, bro.
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You actually turned me on. My wife and I were between Mario Party games and I asked you for a recommendation just for like, you know, kind of a fun little easy to pick up party game. And I think you you gave me a recommendation for Kiwi. Yeah. Yeah, Kiwi. It's a great little game, man. Yeah, you get to run a little post office as Kiwis. It's great. Yeah, it's awesome. It's hard.
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Yeah, it gets hard for sure. It's hard, but I loved it. Yeah, it got hard, but it was a fun little game for Sarah and I to play. If I had to choose my animal, man, that's an interesting one. I'd probably have to say something cool like an orca or something like that.
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They're real social and they're also apex predators. Like, Kiwi's cool, man, but I'm getting stepped on as a Kiwi.
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That can't be true. There's no predators.
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Are there, like, no land carnivores in New Zealand? I would have to look it up. I'm not sure. That is really interesting. Yeah, I mean, in Hawaii, for instance, the largest carnivore is a house cat.
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Interesting. I never thought of that. Well, if that's the case, man, Kiwi's got it good.
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Yeah, probably. Delicious little morsel.
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Very cool. People Wonder asks, if you had the creative ability to create any one thing, what would it be?
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And he says, be specific. Describe that which you would like to bring to life.
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I don't even want to understand what you just said to me. That's terrible, bro.
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That's a good one. That's a good one. There's a lot of potential there.
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One, I think you could be incredibly creative with it, man. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's a great choice.
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For me, and there's a function to this, but it would have to be something like...
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robocop level cybernetics oh okay and it's mostly just because i'm i'm 43 years old and i have bad spinal arthritis that i just can't wait to get out of this freaking body but dude i did you see the newer robocop movie that came out it was like uh it was like he had like black armor yeah yeah i saw that yeah so there's this scene in robocop where uh
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Oh my God. I am definitely one of those staunch no pineapple on pizza guys. As a matter of fact, my wife and I were just in Italy visiting some family out in the kind of Verona area. And we asked them about pineapple on pizza out there. And they said, this is a quote from my cousin Lucia, by the way. This is why people don't like Americans. So I see. I'm not welcome in Italy, I guess.
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the murphy the the cop is uh that's the cop's name right anyway yeah the the cop who turns into robocop recognizes that you know a lot of him is gone and he talks to the doctor or whatever in charge and he says show me and he goes i really don't recommend it you know you're not gonna like what you see you can't unsee it and he goes show me i want to see what's left and there's this whole like
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scene where they kind of the armor strips off and like piece by piece you see the robotics go away and you see how little of him is left and basically it's just his like his head his spine and his like lungs and you see this look of abject terror come over his face where he's like never show that to me again And in that moment, I was like, I want that so bad. I would give anything for that.
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Like that is my, that is like my nirvana right there. Like get all of this weak little fleshy stuff off of me. Put me in the machine, man. And forget about me, bro. I would be so stoked if that was me.
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oh john you belong in the cyberpunk universe maybe man maybe dude the idea of just being able to go like arms broken new arm like ah bro hey plus you know bonus if you go to the cyberpunk route you also get like the mantis blades and the wrists and all that very true very true awesome It is super awesome. And a little plug for a game that we learned more about recently, Graft.
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It's a survival horror, but man, that's almost a cozy game for me. Like, oh, I get to pull myself apart. You worry me, John. You worry me greatly with what you find comfortable. Let's see. Westside Pancake says, you can take one character and put them in a different game. Who are you choosing?
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Oh, good answer, dude.
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Sony, Nintendo. Who doesn't love Kirby?
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Well, okay.
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Fair enough. He doesn't know Kirby like we do. Yeah, given his taste for games and stuff, I could see that, man. He plays for the challenge. I don't know that he plays for the fun of it. I could see him getting pretty bored with it. Mine... Oh, gosh, man. It's tough because they kind of already did it.
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Like, I would have wanted, again, big into superheroes, and I would have wanted Spawn in a fighting game.
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Yeah, with Soul Calibur. Didn't that happen in Injustice as well? I think so. Yeah. Oh, wait, no, no, no. No, that was Hellboy. Yeah, because... No, I think Hellboy is Mortal Kombat.
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Interesting.
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No, I think I'd probably have to do... I'd probably have to do Dr. Manhattan in... I like fighting games. I'd have to do Dr. Manhattan and all the Watchmen in like a Marvel vs. Capcom sort of... Oh, that would be cool.
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Yeah, I love those games, man. Marvel vs. Capcom 2 is like one of my all-time favorite games. And Watchmen is like my favorite fictional anything ever. So if I could... If I could blend them and put them in one game, that's a win.
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Nice.
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Oh, is he like... He wiped the floor with me, man.
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Don't you hate that, man? It's just like rubbing it in. It was rough.
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Yeah. Awesome. AceLogan0188 asks, what is your favorite game that you never finished?
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Yes.
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Old West, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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That's the official answer. Although we did have AZ Food Guy on the show recently for a bonus episode. And he is a food aficionado. And he gave us the definitive answer of yes, pineapple can belong on a pizza. There you go.
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What was that PS3 generation? Yeah, PS3 and Xbox 360. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, that was a great game, man. And it's interesting. There's surprising depth in some of those games a few generations ago. I mean... You haven't seen, or at least I haven't seen like the quantum leap in game mechanics from the last couple of generations as you saw from like PS1 to PS3.
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It's like, it's an altogether different industry when you go PS1 to PS3. PS3, there's still a lot of solid stuff, man. I mean, I guess the fact that you've been able to put The Last of Us out on several different, you know.
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generations of game and have it still hold up is kind of a testament to that uh my favorite i don't know that i i would qualify this as my favorite game but it's definitely the one that i feel like i most need to finish is red dead revolt uh red dead redemption 2 never started it you never started it nope i mean it is like the consensus i know i hear it from ryan every time it's like it's the best game man you gotta play it's like i
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I played the first... Maybe eight to ten hours of it. And I really enjoyed it. And then I... You know, I just got distracted with other life stuff. And it was really hard to come back to. You know, I think they talk about it a lot on the show. But the opening sequence of the game is really, really slow.
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And... The idea of having to go because I'd like basically forgotten how to play the game at this point. And like the idea of having to go back and slog through that opening part again is.
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Were you ever a Grand Theft Auto person?
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So, yeah. So I'll allow it. I think... If at any other point in my life you would have asked me to rank those...
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interesting i really like watchdogs interesting um that's interesting i think had i not been in the navy i probably would have never gotten into grand theft auto it was just everybody was playing it and it was hard to like not be into it oh yeah and uh i'm not i'm not a big fan of like that the rock star the engine or whatever you know how they design their games but i mean you can't deny that
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Grand Theft Auto is a master class in game design.
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That is fair. Ian at Make-A-Wish agrees with you too.
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yeah that was a that was a good call out there um what do you think your spoons ask what is your video game blind spot it could be a genre a major series um my blind spot i would say well if we're talking about major series it's metal gear solid which i want to correct that eventually i i would like to correct the fact i've not played a metal gear solid game
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man up until probably about two years ago pizza would have been at the top but i have to say the same versatility that you find in pizza i find in tacos my man oh really you can do so much with tacos and you can they have the benefit of you being able to make them healthy as healthy as you want or as unhealthy as you want whereas pizza pizza you're kind of you know you're kind of just like
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Oh, yeah. I think you're in luck if you actually want to. Now's the time to do it.
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Yeah, right. You got this filet mignon in front of you, but have you seen this London broil? Like, no, get that out of here. I already got the filet. Exactly. Back to food, of course. For me, I've got a couple, but... They're both genres. It would be the sort of Marvel Rivals slash Overwatch style. What would you call that style? That's a hero shooter. Hero shooter. Yep.
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Dude, I get smushed at those games, man. Absolutely smushed.
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How long did it take you to, like, feel really comfortable with it?
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That I will give you. I mean, I did one community night with the group. And... just being there to listen to everybody, you know, talk to each other and again, plug for the discord community. It's the best. Oh, the absolute chaos. You gotta be there. It is pure chaos, but fun to listen to. Very difficult for Johnny to play.
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I like, I, I'm like, you know, I probably played what you just said, you know, four or five hour long sessions. And I, Dude, it is. It has never gotten past pandemonium for me. Like, I can't sort out what's going on. Like, I'm Punisher and I just sit there and hopefully I'm shooting in a direction. I hear a little ting once in a while and I die probably like three times as often as I kill.
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And that sucks. That's so good.
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Fair. Dude, I couldn't even tell you the difference, man. I try to kill with all of them and I die with all of them. So it's the exact opposite result that I'm going for. Let's see. I don't have the author of this one. I must have deleted that on accident, but asked John Tacicon, when will you build a gaming PC? And, you know, I'm really struggling with this one.
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You're primarily a PC player, right?
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yeah and it's interesting because like logically i can recognize that anything a console does a computer can do better and can plus some add-ons to do better yeah but um yeah i i don't know what there's just something about the keyboard and mouse to play a game that's not attractive to me.
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And I know that you can play most computer games on a controller, but I'm like, I got consoles for the, I think it's just the old school gamer in me, man. There's, there's something about having like the dedicated console that is attractive to me. I get that.
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Forget about tonight. Do better tomorrow. I don't know.
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Well, and there's just kind of like a whole vibe with it. You know, I think there's like, do you collect records or do you know anyone who collects records? yeah i have an aunt who does like vinyl yeah i mean like it's like a clearly dead technology but there's just something endearing about it you know if you grew up with it there's like
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i don't know uh it you'll have to evolve someday john we'll be here waiting with open arms the pc master race yeah maybe maybe when we push the button and silk song yeah maybe that's what'll happen we push the button you build a pc like like just like a lego game just yeah you're tickling something for me the lego thing that could be it if they make lego pcs i could maybe get behind that
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Yeah, it just oozes happiness.
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Yeah. Yeah, I guess that's true. Have you ever had cauliflower crust, though?
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Yeah, I hear you. For me, it's got to be Final Fantasy 10.
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Yeah, that's true. I was like, oh, wait. But it'll look really pretty up until that point.
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No, man. I blitzballed very, very little. That was my least favorite part of the whole game. I hated it. Yeah. With a lot of the Final Fantasies, the minigames work out pretty well. Like, it worked out remarkably well in 8, for instance. 10, I didn't... Blitzball was not... It lost me so fast.
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That's the only part of the game that I was, like, itching to get through. Like, just like, okay, let's move this along. But I remember... That was kind of like the beginning of my renaissance with video gaming, where I was like, oh, my God, I want to live this like this. I can't put this down. I want to explore every nook and cranny of this world.
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But it is there.
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And, you know, I just absolutely fell in love with it.
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Yeah, I agree. Let's see. Blueberry tie asks, what's your go-to land party game? If you could take any modern game back to the land party days.
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Imagine a world where you had to bring your computer or console over to a friend's house and you have a couple other buddies do the same thing and you actually have to physically connect all of the machines to each other to be able to play.
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It is there. Well, I think that's interesting. So our answers are totally.
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You know, this is just one of those things for perspective. When LAN parties came out for me, it was magic. I was so grateful to have it. But I can imagine that somebody who grew up like, man, I could just play with any of my friends literally anytime, anywhere.
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It's interesting, man. I actually think that game would be a really fun LAN party game. Can you imagine like literally getting like 15 of your friends in the same room and just all smashing each other?
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Well, I got to keep tacos. My trade would be pizza. Is trade above cut, I'm assuming?
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That sounds like a lot of fun.
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Man, I'm going to have to give that game another shot. You are.
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I love superheroes. The community aspect's good. Plus, I love games that you can just pick up and put down easily. That's definitely one of them. Yeah, I'll give it another shot. Let's see. Let me read the question again. What is your go-to LAN party game if you could take any modern game back to LAN party days?
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Well, for me, it plays heavily into nostalgia, but it would be any of the... Like my first actual LAN party game, I was managing... I used to work for Blockbuster and they had like a store-in-store concept called Game Rush. And I was like one of the first Game Rush managers. And we had a midnight event, you know, where...
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basically were able to open the store at midnight so people could buy their copy of Halo 2 and that was like my first ever LAN party game and it left a very big imprint on me even though the quality of the Halo games has gone up and down based on nostalgia only if you put me in a room with 15 people playing literally any Halo game that would be a really good night for me
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Yeah, and it was one of those... genre and generation kind of defining games where it the mechanics of it were so much better so much obviously better than the
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Yeah, I would go, yeah, tacos is my keep. Pizza is my reluctant trade. I always want that in the back pocket. But hamburgers, nah, I just don't get excited about hamburgers anymore.
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number two uh competitively that um i mean it was like just an undeniably fun game people bought xboxes just for halo and and uh and and you would feel happy to do it now the bars it's a lot more even you know there's a lot of there's a lot of games that would fill that and so you know i nostalgia definitely plays disproportionately in that decision for me how fair Um, we got a couple left here.
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So, uh, Brett asks, I saw John Tassicon. I saw you have a star Wars scout trooper helmet. Do you have any others or collect any other star Wars trinkets? Yes, I've got a couple of helmets.
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I actually used to be in this costuming group called the 501st Legion, where it's literally a charity group that dresses up in movie-accurate Star Wars outfits and goes to children's hospitals or benefit events, Alzheimer parades, things like that to help support whatever the cause is. And then if any proceeds are generated, they go...
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towards uh whatever that causes see that's freaking sweet that's an awesome way to combine your love for star wars and your love for you know giving to charities oh dude it was awesome um however there's a catch to that so number one they're expensive as you could probably guess oh yeah i imagine especially movie accurate stuff there it's hard to come by but the most challenging part
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Is that when I went into it, I figure armor, durable. It turns out there's a reason all these stormtroopers die when you blow on them. The armor is useless. Absolutely useless. Literally the day I got my armor put together, I put on my chest piece, like the breastplate for the scout trooper, and it split in half the very first day. Oh, no.
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and then after that it was just me chasing a series of defects in the armor it's really oh man really a labor of love um so yeah anyway star wars uh star wars will always have a special place in my heart i i love it top down you know even the parts i don't love i love even like uh The Rise of Skywalker, which is one of my least favorite movies of all time. I still love it because it's Star Wars.
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Somehow, Palpatine returned.
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Off camera! Are you serious? Laziest writing. Oh, God. Bro! Riled me up, man. Terrible. Are you a Star Wars guy?
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Oh, I agree with you there, man.
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It is my favorite. I agree. Hands down, my favorite Star Wars movie, man. My man. All right. Virtual high five. Yeah. Okay. And then lastly, Jigglepuff asks, outside of gaming, what is another hobby you have? If not hobby, special interests.
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Great plug, buddy.
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yeah you know and makes for great background it makes for makes for a wonderful background and you know i think if it makes you happy like that's the main thing oh yeah yeah what what is money if not a you know basically fun tickets you have to do all the important stuff with money too obviously but the leftovers that's the fun money that was the leftover exactly um
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Now we're on the same page. I have never eaten a pizza that is as delicious as Ninja Turtles pizza looks, though. Like that jaded me for life.
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yeah for me oh my god i i i am very happy with the fact that i can turn just about anything into a hobby like i have i have the ability to get really into just about everything um if i had to pick two things right now ace like you i'm a collector i i am a big collector of uh warhammer 40 000 uh action figures like i've got i'm still setting up my room here
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but i've got like way too many i've spent a fortune on these things and every time i get one i still am like stoked um so that i i uh do tabletop wargaming uh collect you know warhammer 40 000 and uh warhammer age of sigmar i love those are probably my two favorite ips in all of fandom And I'm also into baking. My wife is an incredibly good baker and I'll never have the talent she has
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on the um precision sort of decorating side but uh the legwork side of like literally just mixing ingredients and doing the scullery work is i don't know there's something therapeutic about it i guess hey nothing wrong with a man who bakes i ain't gonna say nothing i cook but i don't bake thank you for saying that
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uh okay ace so um these are the listener questions are over and thank you by the way everybody on thank you very much thank you so much for for taking a chance to do that i have one or two little rapid fire questions for you oh boy all right we ask Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat?
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Bro, I got to tell you, man, listening to the indie episodes is like such a treat for me, man. I've picked up... Actually, it's kind of a double-edged sword, dude. I've picked up more games than I know what to do with at this point, but I love it, bro. I love it, man. Like, where you find these games is like just... It's like magic to me. Hey, it's a good problem to have as a big backlog, man.
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Really? Okay.
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By the way, the thing that I can talk about even more so than video games is food, so this may very well turn into a food episode. Who makes the best fast food burger?
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Fair enough. It's Street Fighter for me, by the way. I love your mom.
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No, no. I do have to give you a shout out here. You went from getting your mom, your butt kicked by your mom at Street Fighter to your butt being kicked at Mortal Kombat from Greg. Yeah, yeah.
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Man, I love them both, but if I had to choose between noodles and bread, I'm probably choosing noodles. Really?
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I wish I had that problem too. I can literally eat until food is taken away from me, man. I haven't found the depths of my appetite yet.
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Yeah. Maybe when you and I get to hang out in person, our appetites will sync up or something. Last question. What is your favorite movie of all time?
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Okay. We've come full circle here.
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Look out, everyone. Dude, I have to tell you. So I saw the first Saw. I saw Saw in the theater. You saw Saw? And I do have to give it to you, man. The ending of that movie... where the killer was in the room the whole time spoiler alert but it's old so if you haven't seen it you and then like the track for hello zeb kicks on the i was like Yeah, super good. Super good. For me, it's Watchmen.
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The Watchmen movie, which was terribly underappreciated. The Zack Snyder one, which came out in the early 2000s or whatever. Man, that, in my opinion, is just such a masterpiece. I watched it again recently with Sarah, my wife, and expecting it to be dated and not hold up. Dude, it's so good. It's so good. Um... I think those are both great picks. Thank you.
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Wendy's is a really strong contender. Yeah. That's my wife's favorite food of all time is our cheeseburgers. And I remember her and I were like just getting some errands tidied up from this move we're finishing up with. And she stopped to get a Wendy's Little Junior cheeseburger. And she took like two bites of it and like had to stop and like close her eyes to appreciate it.
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Okay, Ace. So Jake asks the all-important question. Who is your favorite character and why is it a tie between Jack Black and Jim Carrey?
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Yep. And then Jack Black, you have Minecraft, but you also kind of have Jumanji. I don't know if that counts.
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like that's an all-timer like oh that is an all-timer do you have a jim carrey counter well i would just say that jack black has one all-timer for me and jim carrey has many all-timers um Like, I love Cable Guy. That's a deep cut for a lot of people. But Ace Ventura 2, hilarious. Dumb and Dumber, obviously. And then also an underappreciated role. Did you ever see Batman Forever?
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Yeah, he was the Riddler. Yeah, I thought he was awesome as the Riddler. Yeah, he's a great Riddler.
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I didn't. I heard it was great.
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Okay, fair. I'm definitely going to be seeing it. The Sonic the Hedgehog story arc of how those movies came to be is like one of my favorite things in Hollywood, just because it would have failed had they not taken listener feedback. And they did. And I'm so happy that exists.
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You got it. You got it. And then let's see. Brett asks, Ace of Shame, what were your first thoughts when listening to the Video Gamers podcast for the first time?
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What were you listening to before them?
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Interesting. Yeah, I... I have been into tabletop and, you know, lots, lots of D and D adjacent type things, but I've never actually played a D and D game. So that'll, that'll be something you're going to have to show me. Oh yeah, for sure. Um, question wasn't directed for me, but go ahead and answer. Yeah, I, um,
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I came across this podcast initially because I was listening to, you know, like probably everybody else in the world. When I was working out, I was listening to Joe Rogan. And then there was a period of time where it was like literally just political guests after political guests after political guests. I just got sick of hearing it. And so I go, OK, well, I love Warhammer.
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And she looked at me like with more love than she's ever looked at me in my entire life. And she goes, I love this cheeseburger. Good job, Wendy's. Yay, Wendy's. So next question, Ace. Rigo, this is a really good one, man. Rigo asks, what is the first game you remember pulling an all-nighter on?
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Let's let's see what let's see what tabletop gaming podcasts are out there. And it's there's not a There's a few semi entertaining ones and a few good lore ones, but it just it wasn't scratching the itch. And so I go, OK, well, video games and, you know, I typed in video games podcast and the video gamers podcast was the first one to come up. And I go, that looks like what I'm looking for.
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And and I was listening to Paul, Ryan and Josh at the time. And I just remember going like, man, this is this is cool, dude. You know, like.
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it's so genuine their love for gaming it's not phoned in at all they're not trying to be the experts like this is all coming from a like love of gaming perspective comes from like they're very yes very clearly emotionally invested in what they're doing and you know no bureaucracy or anything like that involved it was just felt so genuine that after a couple episodes it
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You know, it stuck, and I've probably been listening to them every single day since then.
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The episode that hooked me? Um... My gosh, man. It was probably a draft.
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Yeah, I'd have to get back to you on that. I can't remember the exact episode, but when I was looking through it, you look for the title that's going to grab you, and it was probably best something of 2023 or whatever. What about you? The one that hooked me...
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Love it. That's awesome. Is there anything else you'd like to say to the listeners?
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Yep. And with that, guys, that's going to wrap it up for this episode. And until next time, happy gaming. Peace out. Toodle-oo!
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Minecraft.
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This might be dating you, but well, how, how, how long ago was this? Oh, this 2013, I think. What did you do to keep yourself up? Like my I'll give you my all nighter here in a second because it's super obscure. But me and my friend Spud, which Spud, if you're listening to this, shout out to you, man. I haven't talked to this guy in a really long time.
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But him and I would literally get like two, two liters of Coke each. And we'd be just like fueled on sugar and caffeine through the night. Did you guys have something similar?
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That's awesome.
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You and I have the opposite problem, Ace. Unfortunately, I'm like plagued with insomnia. I sleep two to three hours a night like crazy.
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for for months and months at a time man you poor soul and go yeah what are you gonna do my game and this is going to be super obscure i am i'm wondering if anybody in this listener community has even heard of this game but it was a game on genesis called herzog zwei have you ever heard of that no you have lost me sir i have no idea what you're talking about
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So you've played like real-time strategy games like the original Warcraft or Command & Conquer, that type of thing. Yes, I'm pretty sure that Herzog Zwei was the very first real-time strategy game. Oh, wow. Okay. It was awesome. It still holds up, by the way, man. I mean, there's a lot of those retro games, especially from the 16-bit era that...
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Yeah, absolutely. Dear listeners, you've had so much time to get to know our hosts, Josh and Ryan. Their interests, their pet peeves, and what gets them excited about gaming. Ace and I, well... We're the new kids on the block.
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man they're they're just hard to play now as much nostalgia as i have from they're just really really hard to play and uh this one still holds up man i mean the graphics are blocky or whatever but the gameplay is fantastic all right um and uh consequently this is going to be one of our hidden gems that we talk about in a upcoming episode all right nice did it ever get like a remaster anything
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No, I'm just kidding. I know with a catchy title like Herzog's Why. Really rolls off the tongue, huh? Really rolls off the tongue, yeah. It means second general, by the way, in German. I don't know. Somebody's great idea. It was a brilliant game at the time. Still holds up. Nobody's ever played it.
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Well, OK, so on that same note, Josh asks, what's the first game that you can remember playing and enjoying?
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Yeah, he just drove right into the deep end there, Ace.
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So what games were you playing before that then? The question is, the first game you can remember really playing and enjoying. So before that, if you were playing like T and under, there must have been something that you were playing and you liked.
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Yeah, it's tough. Man, the concept still holds up well. I'm hoping Ubisoft pulls something out with this.
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I think that we probably all agree on that. It's rare that all four of us agree on something, but I think we all agree on that. But I would say that if the last leg that they have to stand on is feudal Japan and you can play a samurai or a ninja, it's a pretty strong leg.
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limping back to them like please take me back i i totally agree so what about you man regardless uh let's see so i'm kind of in the same boat as you so i'm a couple generations older and like my first console was an nes and nes came with you know the nintendo duck hunt cartridge and um you know i i enjoyed those games
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But I don't think I really felt like I really enjoyed a game until maybe Super Mario 2, which is still oddly my favorite of the Super Mario's. Maybe Odyssey. I mean, there's a lot of banger Mario games out there.
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Yes, yes, exactly.
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Yeah, it's awesome. It's quirky. It's definitely got the... know most original sort of aesthetic out of all of the uh out of all the old 8 and 16-bit marios and stuff but i like it it's got a lot of charm i really enjoyed it uh and then i think probably my aha moment like you had with um assassin's creed was maximum carnage on the uh on the genesis okay i was like
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a big marvel fan uh growing up still am uh and like seeing all my favorite superheroes on screen and being able to play them was like just absolutely crazy oh yeah that was as close to rated m as console games got um this is a great question from patrick Ace, what happens if you push the button?
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Oh, that's a good one.
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That might be the only thing that makes Silksong release. I'm just going to find that button wherever it is. Yeah, that's great, man. I like it. My answer is probably a little jaded. I just got done listening to this book called Nuclear War, a scenario that kind of went over Like what would actually happen if there was like a nuclear crisis?
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Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. Nothing good. I'm basically full Earth cataclysm in a couple hours.
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Have you been watching Paradise? No, I have not. Oh, it's a good show. It's on Hulu. I think unless there is some sort of like deep underground bunker that we all don't know about, it's basically like Annihilation. Oh, okay.
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We got a lot of really fun questions, which are hoping might give you some idea as to how Ace and I operate. It certainly gave us a little insight into you, the listeners. But we wanted to go ahead and read some of these. And right out of the gate here, we got a hot one. Gamble asks, keep trade cut.
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So that's a good light moment in the show, I think. Yeah.
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I didn't say I want to.
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Oh, okay.
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Yeah, we push the button, we get Silksong and the apocalypse. And no one dies.
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Yeah. Let's see. Your favorite Mike asks, what two or three game genres would you combine for your ideal game?
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It's a walking simulator, which is fine. I love, frankly, I love easy narrative driven games. Like I don't want to die a bazillion times. When I play a difficult game and I'm dying over and over again, it makes me hate the game. I don't want to like breeze through a game, but like Ghost of Tsushima was like an appropriate level of difficulty for me.
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uh expedition 33 unless you ended up in some place where you're over leveled under leveled i should say that was a good level of game for me souls like man can't do them even the even the innocent ones like uh another crab's treasure this game was startlingly simple and easy and Which would be fine if for not the fact that I didn't find any story there to be attached to.
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I will say, though, that I didn't do this in VR. I as I was playing it, I was recognizing like if this was VR and I actually had that element of feeling like I was in this world, I think that might probably change my opinion on this.
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yeah yeah i i have to like there's lots of other games like if you're to play uh vader immortal for instance the the star wars vr game if you were to play that on just like a regular console or regular pc or whatever with the flat screen it just takes something away you know there's there's an element of that game where like you are confronted by vader no matter how tall you are in real life you're like
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shocked by the scale of Vader like you just don't get that with you know when you're playing on a TV or something I definitely think that if there was if I was playing in VR there would be that level of immersion because dude if I'm being honest man like the little goth kid in me like that that style of world is like the world I want to live in you know I like the dark spooky you know like haunting lights and kind of charred people and ghosties and stuff I love all that stuff but
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It's just the way I played this game. It just didn't, didn't work for me.
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But you know what I'm talking about? Like, like there were scenes where there, there were a couple, I want to give the game credit. There were a couple of like a creature designs that I was like, okay, that's pretty cool. Like the, the grinners, I think they're runners. I was like, that's pretty cool.
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But, yeah, when you're sneaking around from doing the stealth elements of this game, you would once in a while hear this, watch out! And I'm like, who the heck is saying that? Who's telling me?
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And it's the only time in the game that that happened. Like, if it is in fact... The voices of the dead or what? Like, I think that's the only time in the game you hear that. And again, that just to me feels like bad. It feels like play by numbers design. I think somebody when they were creating this game, they go, well, this is a VR game and things are going to sneak up on you.
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And that's going to frustrate people. How do we warn people? Oh, just have like a voice. A look out.
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Which, again, is like the audio design, I think, was the shining thing in this game.
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Yes. Right. But even that, the way that... Like, I thought that that was a cool idea, but they made it... It was too easy. It's underutilized. It's not even that it's too easy. It was irrelevant in the game, guys. There is this scene... I know this is a big spoiler because it's towards the end of the game for anybody listening, or at least it's pretty... Skip ahead a few, I guess.
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Yeah, go ahead and... Yeah, I will say end spoiler at the end of this. There's a scene where you're collecting these bones to put in a grave so that you can advance beyond this level. And you are going... Basically, the gimmick of the game is that you have your characters close its eyes so you can hear things that are invisible.
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And by doing so in this one part, you are able to hear the bones rattling in this the specific coffins that they're in. But there's like not a lot of coffins to begin with. You could just like go around and open them and the bones will be there. And it's like, why do I even need this? It would have taken less effort for me to just go, okay, it's not in that one. Oh, there it is.
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Rather than use this gimmick. It's just, man.
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It sounds cool. Look, I need to preface this episode, okay? So I am a huge fan of this genre, and I am a huge fan of indie producers in general. And I feel so terrible that I'm about to poop all over this game for the next 40 minutes or however long. I feel terrible about it, man. But, you know.
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Yeah, it could be the difference between watching a recording of a roller coaster and being on a roller coaster.
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Josh just schooled me in my storytelling in the previous episodes.
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Well...
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Do you know if they had planned to make this a non-VR game from the beginning? I do not, but it feels like it was meant to be VR across the board. I'm wondering if they started development in this game several years ago, And then at some point they had a member of the dev team go like, hey, guys, VR isn't selling at all.
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If we want to make some of our money back, we're going to have to push this out to consoles. And then they go, okay, well, how do we make that work? It feels very clearly designed for VR, and so I feel kind of dirty even passing all this negative judgment on it, not playing it the way it's intended. But at the same time, this is how they released it, guys.
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So overall, though, Ace, I mean, what was your experience with the game? My experience with the game was...
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Oh, yeah. Let's talk about that. Oh, we're going to bring that up for sure.
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Yeah, I gotta say the game has like... There's no replayability.
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Maybe, yeah. And only if...
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$24.99.
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And that's only because I understand why they are charging $40 for this game.
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How much unnecessary work that went into this.
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It's bloat. They're like, well, again, it just feels like bloat, man.
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Yeah, exactly. Again, like I am absolutely like, dude, I used to run a company that was like definitely the high end price wise company, but we provided value that was that exceeded the price. I will absolutely pay a higher price for an even higher value. And if I was playing this game and really felt like, wow, this all looks like claymation to me, I would have been in for it.
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But there's something about the translation from whatever they made in reality to scanning it and what was in the game that just felt like much Oddworld. Did either of you guys play any of the Oddworld games? Yeah, several. Yeah. So like when I was playing those games, like I felt, oh, this is a similar kind of like aesthetic. It's a little chunky, a little blocky.
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And, you know, like I felt like this game totally could have done that. They could have achieved the same look with probably a fraction of the labor that went into it. And so labor and budget and yeah.
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Filming claymation is unbelievably burdensome. Stop motion is a dying medium.
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I actually just haven't seen them, but I've heard they're really good movies.
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i don't know like it was like a 10 minute chapter or something so like i got up i got up the mat i was like oh this is the end of the game right now like okay this is moon mountain yeah i've i've made it to moon mountain yeah there's no one to stop me i mean we looked at this
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What do you think the community... Why do you think they like it so much? I think because there's not a lot of games like that. I definitely think it's novel. There's not a lot of things like this out there, and so anybody who's like...
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waiting for re-animal to come out basically uh it's like clinging to anything like that uh that they can fair enough yeah i don't know out rank these games from best to worst limbo inside little nightmares and the midnight walk
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I think if this had been a it may the more I think about it, the more I feel like I just didn't play it right. Like if they if this had been a VR exclusive and you're like actually in there feeling it, seeing it moving around and appreciating all the work that went into it. It may have been an altogether different experience, but I don't know. People are rejecting VR for a reason.
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That's all I can say.
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Each of those have stories with plot twists and narrative and characters you care about.
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He was the only good thing about this game. He is Sackboy in Marilyn Manson cosplay.
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I recreated the sun. You brought the sun back. All right.
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Pop Boy becomes the sun. Halsey dies way before that, though.
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Ryan, Ryan, in the, in the 40 minutes that we've been talking about it, we have explained every single detail and every single story that is in this game.
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Well, now you did.
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Yeah. If you are somebody who's itching for a kind of darker, spooky game, please check these off your list first. Inside, Little Nightmares, Little Nightmares 2 especially, and Limbo. Those are fantastic games.
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And also, I got to hear, like, am I just way off base on this? Like, if I miss something, please mention it in the comments. I have to. Like, I want to like this so bad. Dude, I'm with you.
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I'm sorry.
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it's john hey i resent that man hey you know what you've done i know what is happening but i don't know man i i what we'll see how this episode on unveils i am gonna try and convince you to be on my side oh that's uh
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I was a goth kid growing up, man. I grew up on Nightmare Before Christmas and Tim Burton movies. Coraline, in my opinion, is the most superior claymation movie. I love that movie.
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Pale makeup and black hair and eyeliner. 313 pounds with pale makeup and eyeliner and black lipstick. Nobody understands me. Yeah, exactly.
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The whole bit.
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I'm embarrassed for my 15, 16-year-old son. But if you were to take most of the concept art and just put it on matte paintings or something like that, I would be like, oh, I'm drawn to this art. Absolutely. In the game, the way that it was put together, man, it just didn't resonate with me, dude. I wanted...
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it would have been so easy for me to like this game too it just right right out of the gate never felt to me like it had a heart it looked like somebody was painting by numbers and was like how do we make a creepy game you know like like when tim burton for instance makes a movie or or any property
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I think that those things end up coming out the way they do because Tim Burton's just kind of like a weird guy and he sees things through a certain lens. This movie felt to me like it was created by somebody who like,
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listens to a lot of creed and nickelback and like nah let's make a dark game guys like how do we make a dark game okay well what what kinds of things are in dark games oh well we gotta we gotta have an edgy name like let's call him uh the burnt one yeah that sounds cool okay like so what's gonna be our hook well uh he doesn't have any eyes or ears and we'll have to like
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build that into the game and you know like i don't know man it just it just felt like so formula it never felt like it out of heart even pot just even pop boy dude like oh hold on i'm sorry like again if you were to just like put him on a painting Without any of the context, I'd be like, oh, that's cool art, right?
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But as he fits into the game, it felt to me like, oh, well, we're going to need a cute character that's also kind of creepy to follow around. Like, okay, well, let's kind of make him a little burnt up, but with a big jack-o'-lantern smile. Oh, that's kind of cool, right, guys? Right? You know, like... It just doesn't ring true to me, man.
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Even some of the most clear examples of that in media, Grogu, terrible name still, Baby Yoda, better name, clearly was designed to sell merchandise. But even that, when he's in there, I'm like, that's adorable. Like, there's something... It feels genuine. Nothing about this game felt genuine to me, man. Even the fact that it was claymated... Claymated?
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Yeah. Even the fact that they made this with claymation techniques and then scanned it in felt totally unnecessary. Like, I've played plenty of games where... where they have had a similar aesthetic, where that's just how they program it. I felt like, well, how do we get the Tim Burton people? Oh, I get it. Let's make this out of claymation, and then we'll scan it.
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Oh, yeah, and then we'll be able to sell that, guys.
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Let's light them up.
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Oh, I was super stoked. This genre of game is usually like a can't miss for me. Indie charming horror is like, if you had to distill my preferred genre down into three words, indie charming horror would be like it.
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Yeah, I was... Again, I... Man, I feel like on paper I could find so many faults. Dude, I'll be honest. I don't even know what the story was, man.
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I couldn't get interested in it. I could not. It just felt like this paint-by-numbers sort of thing. I... When you and I did our initial impressions, I stopped playing it because I got stuck in a part, and honestly, it ended up being operator error. Totally my fault. You know those big gas valve things?
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This is a little bit of a spoiler, but there's a certain way that you're supposed to activate them, and I was doing it the wrong way.
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I was trying to throw a... So, oh, yeah.
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But but the same way, like you find these little like cue card or clue cards and it showed that being thrown. And I was like, why can't I get that? And I just totally forgot that I had the right way to. Anyway, I got past that part. Uh, but I, I, I could just never find, I could never find like love for this game when I stopped playing it.
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When we did our initial impressions, I hadn't looked up any reviews for this because I was like, I like to go into games that I'm really excited about, like with no, no preparation, but I was confident that I, that I was going to be seeing like six out of sevens, three out of fives, you know, uh, But I'm shocked. What is it at? It's like 90.
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Overwhelmingly positive. So, you know, clearly. Yeah, clearly.
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I think every goth person who has a Jack Skellington tattoo somewhere on their body... Who is 20 years old that is wearing a Cure t-shirt is totally going to buy this.
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You don't understand this world. That was me.
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Yeah, what made it stand out for me gameplay-wise was that it was the most boring gameplay I've probably ever played. Oh, come on, John. I got to tell you. So here's the thing, though. I was expecting it, though. I was expecting it to not be reliant heavily on the gameplay. Because it is along the lines of like What Remains of Edith Finch or a Firewatch or something like that.
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That's pretty clever. It's almost like a time loop kind of feeling. I guess you don't remember things in a time loop, but still, it felt like that.
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I'd completely forgotten about this one until you mentioned it because I didn't remember the name at all. But as soon as I pulled it up, I was like, oh my gosh, I remember this.
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This is so unique. It reminded me of, I don't know if you've heard of a game called The Withering Rooms.
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It very much reminds you of that, but with this more unique Disney cartoon aesthetic. And it's super impressive, man.
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I mean, based on the absolute monster that is No Man's Sky coming from the same developer, I think we're in for a massive treat because this developer has definitely learned his lesson from No Man's Sky and not to give you a half-baked product, so...
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Yeah, man. I'm stoked. So very stoked for that one, man.
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love it all right what you got for us bud i know like it's real hard to get people interested in these kind of games for some reason but uh i'm gonna be talking about a little game called mouse pi for hire which is a boomer shooter kind of game which if you don't know what a boomer shooter game is basically doom you know doom is a boomer shooter that is what the genre is i had to look it up because uh nobody knows nobody knows what it's called
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We do now. But is a boomer shooter with a 1930s rubber hose aesthetic where, once again, you will be playing as a detective, but this detective is a mouse. And you'll be... Go ahead.
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I mean, based off what I've seen and how impressive all the animation is just from the trailers alone, this game is doing justice because, uh, Games that take on that style only do well when they put the effort forth to actually make it accurate to that 1930s style. Dude, and it looks gorgeous.
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It does. It's insane.
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Plus, it's not only just the shooting. You're also a detective, so you'll be gathering clues to find your way to the boss or whatever else. There's not a whole lot of information, so I don't exactly know what you're going to be doing, what the story is, but man, does this game look good.
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That was the way of the future, baby. I agree. I agree.
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For me, usually, this sort of cyberpunk dystopian horror doesn't usually catch my attention as much. It's just not my thing, usually. But I saw this, and I was like, this is special. This has something. I agree.
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I mean, we don't know.
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All right. I think this is probably... I'm poaching this one from John, too, unfortunately.
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We have this one shared. uh but this is probably everyone's most anticipated indie if you played the first one yeah and that would be the full release of hades 2 yeah let's go yeah hades 2 you know famously developed by super giant games hades was a surprise hit for the year it came out and just as i've said before
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absolutely set the standard of quality for what we expect out of roguelikes with this style and this genre and it's amazing yeah i honestly sorry i didn't mean to cut you out there but like at this point it's like this is one of those games where like can you even call this an indie anymore i mean like god it's so good so popular it's like it's a masterpiece it's so polished it's so beautiful there's so many like spoken lines unique pieces of art and dialogues like
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This is a labor of love. How did they afford to make this? And for $29.99. I know.
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You then John, what'd you get?
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game of the year i bet wow what bold that's a it's a bold claim as a bold claim my friend so i i just pulled it up for the first time ever i you guys have said it so many times you've told me oh really i forget every time yeah this is indie this is right this is incredible looking like yeah
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I look at this and I see, like you said, Final Fantasy, but also it brings me back to Xenoblade Chronicles. Have you ever played those? It's just so beautiful to look at. It's so stunning. And I just know the combat's going to be incredible.
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I feel like Indies are like, it's like art. When you're looking at it from a certain point of view, maybe you don't get it. But once you like really start to think about it, you're like, wow, this really speaks to me on a level that other thing couldn't.
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Go ahead. Like you said, Hollow Knight kind of brought back the interest in the Metroidvania genre.
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I feel like you're going through the stages of grief here, John.
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i'm perpetually in denial you'll get there guys you'll get there all right what's your last one ace all right man how do you guys feel about fixed cameras and tank controls oh no this is a what i like to call a spiritual successor to silent hill and resident evil known as tormented souls interesting Yeah, it is. It's a super hard game. I'll say it's punishing.
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You can't save unless you find like a record to put on the tape player and save your progress. So you save too early and you get a bunch of stuff done. You don't find another one. You're kind of in trouble. But I'll just say it's getting a sequel called Tormented Souls 2. I have no idea where they're going to go with the sequel based on how the first one ended.
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But I'll tell you how the first one started. You play as this girl named Caroline who gets a letter from a hospital. that when she opens it, it has a picture of two twins. And on the back, it says like, I know what you did or something like that. She starts having nightmares until she goes to this hospital. Soon as she walks in, she gets knocked out, wakes up naked in a bathtub, missing her eye.
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And then the game just says, go. Yeah. And you unravel this whole mystery behind the twins. What happened to your eye, where you are, what's going on. It's crazy. Yeah.
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I mean, there's no cut scenes, really. It's all gameplay.
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I'll wait till you see the guy in the wheelchair with knives for hands, right?
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I've been trying to play it on keyboard and mouse, and that's what I keep doing. And I'm just like, no!
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I think this is going to be an absolutely legendary year for indie horror games. I will say that. So far, they are looking good.
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Oh, man. I feel like I just woke up. What do you mean we're on a podcast?
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release of this world whatever it may be the funny thing with uh subnautica 2 is it's actually subnautica 3 too which is kind of funny right i had no idea the multiplayer aspect that they're at you know promising with this is going to make this game so much fun man oh gosh is this do you think this is a game where you'd need to play the first one to to appreciate the second one I don't think so.
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I think you could understand Subnautica pretty easily by jumping into the second one. The first one definitely had a story but I don't think it would be paramount to playing the game.
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It's from an indie studio called Halberd Studios, and it's a game called Mariachi Legends. Oh, man, I'm so excited. You have no idea how excited for this one I am. During the day, you play... More and more niched down the further into this we go.
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But in this one, Mariachi Legends is a Metroidvania, as I said, where during the day, you're going to play as a detective named Pablo Cruz, solving mysteries and working with your...
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uh department and things like that but during the night you become the avatar of the death goddess hunting down these you know mexican cartel bosses and serving justice as it would be in the night and it's just so cool man
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Those devs are great at that, man. Just making the scariest thing you can imagine.
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Yeah, Outlast. They're the ones who do it well, I will say.
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uh shamefully to say i have not been playing an indie uh i have been absolutely cracking out on monster hunter wilds man oh it is an absolute blast me and our uh our good buddy gregasaurus just went ham on it and put like 36 hours in two days
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I mean, Mixtape is, from what I remember, it's a narrative story-driven game, right? Yes. About nostalgia, similar to Life is Strange. It's kind of hard to screw those up.
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It seems like a good nostalgia trip, good vibe kind of game. Like, man, where did these times go? I say as the 25 year old in the room.
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All right, what you got, Ace? Oh, man. You already know who this one is. It's our good buddy, Mr. Sleepy Man. Mr. Sleepy Man.
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It's an earworm. I'll tell you that. There you go. But Mr. Sleepy Man, as we know, is a solo dev done by Devin Santee. It's a 3D sandbox platformer with, talking about nostalgia, you know, like Banjo-Kazooie style open world. It's insane. It's a fever dream. It's kind of scary to it sometimes.
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That was quite formidable defensive posturing there, Josh. Please don't invade my brain. My mom taught me long ago, you'd be nice to everybody.
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Especially them.
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So it's, I imagine as the narrative director on these games that you had a lot of kind of personal stake as far as how the whole game was shaped. Is that a fair assumption?
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And so it was that, but you know, it wasn't, I just don't want to take credit for, um, I would say at a minimum, it's a fair assumption that you were a part of this team that created a beloved IP. I mean, an IP that people celebrate and, and, uh, talk about still to this day with quite a bit of love. Um, I have to ask, this may be a little touchy, but you'll have to inform us on this.
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Tarsier Studios is not producing Little Nightmares 3. No. What was it like handing that off?
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Well, so, okay, I have to ask, I think this is the natural question that a lot of people are probably curious about, is that now you have a team that is working on a brand new IP, and you have this old IP that you had previously, you know, that, that you had formed and that is celebrated and you guys are kind of operating still within a very specific niche and design style.
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What is it like sort of competing against yourself? You, you, you have a game that's coming out this year that is competing directly against a product that is, you know, a result of something that you had a hand in creating. Does that, do you have any feelings on that?
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what's what's good but there was a golden age of tv where you were just like this and then this and then this and then this you know and it's just i think i'm maybe you you raise a really good point there though so we were actually just talking about this in one of our weekly sort of uh gaming updates we have a this weekend gaming episode that we do try to do every week
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And we were talking about the depth of really interesting looking new games that are coming out. And I would say that it kind of creates a fear of missing out component where... even if a game is really good, you have this thing in your head where you're like, well, I have a finite amount of time to play all these games.
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And if any point I lose interest in this, it might be an opportunity for me to jump into something. Even, even if that game maybe isn't as good or whatever. I'm running into that currently with television content. There's so many good shows out there that I want to watch that basically the second I lose interest for a moment, I go, okay, well, let's try something else out.
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I'm willing to bet that staring at giant man tarantulas and goat-headed weird... creatures crawling around alleyways probably doesn't help either.
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And then I never come back to the first one. Do you guys have any worries about that as a studio? I mean, there's a lot coming out in the horror space. And again, you've got an IP that you had a hand in forming that is coming out and in in a lot of ways, competing with your game. I mean, how do you guys plan to handle that? Well, I wasn't worried about it until you made such a good case.
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You read my mind. I was literally just going to say that. I was like, give me a 90-minute movie over a three-hour movie. Give me a three-hour movie over a miniseries. Give me a miniseries over a big, long series. I feel like the longer these things go, most of the time, the further off the rails they go and produce a disappointing result. Yeah, totally. Game of Thrones looking at you.
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Well, I don't think so at all. I think that being honest about what your talents and your passion are is an integral part of creating any piece of art. And honestly, it's an integral part of creating any sort of successful business.
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Not to belabor the audience a bit too much, but there's an author out there named Jim Collins who describes something called the hedgehog concept, which is like the basic formula of to making a successful business has to be something that you can be the best in the world at that drives your economic engine and that you're passionate about.
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And in the middle of those intersecting circles is what you should be doing. And so for you guys, it sounds like you, you know, you kind of realize that we don't need to be different for the sake of being different. We are really good and really passionate about something. And we've proven that we can be successful at it. Let's,
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figure out a way to preserve that core and stimulate progress and create a new wonderful IP out of it.
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I can't. Read a lot of business books. Merv, so for the audience here, pitch Re-Animal to us. What's the elevator pitch for this?
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Well, and I don't want you to say too much. I think that an integral... ingredient for any really good horror movie is that less is more. I think that the less that you know going into anything horror-related... is probably for the best for your experience.
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And it's something that the storytelling in your previous games did exceptionally well, where you are kind of like, if nothing is completely shoved down your throat, there's no heavy exposition. You're learning through little nuances what the story is at any given point in time. So I love and appreciate what you've done to set the stage here.
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There are two things that really stood out to me from the content that we've seen so far. Number one, the scale that you've been able to create and emphasize with shadows and darkness and contrast. that really stands out to me. And it was something that you did well with little nightmares one and two, but it feels like an altogether different animal in this game. Nice.
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What did you guys, what did you guys do to, to, uh, to achieve that?
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Well, yeah, but I mean, if you, if you create something amazing, the people will find you.
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Yeah, I personally think that scale does not necessarily reflect quality. I am and will always be a big Marvel fan for the rest of my life, but that's a shining example there. The last several movies, despite this big monolithic company that supports them, have been not so great.
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so one other thing that I wanted to point out that I think everybody is really excited for is the co-op element to this game so we talked about this recently in another episode where I used to really enjoy playing the old fixed camera Resident Evil games with like a group of people so you're kind of experiencing the shock and the surprises together almost like a long form movie it was like kind of a
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a group experience and experiencing something like this through co-op just seems like such a great decision for you guys. But I feel like there's a lot of challenges because the direction of this type of game, especially when I'm thinking about, you know, little nightmares one and two, the, the general sort of presentation of it feels like a very personal experience and
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How did you guys go about working the mechanics, the co-op mechanics, into a game like this?
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Wow. Yeah. That was a great Michael Biehn impression, by the way. Yeah, I've only watched it about 200 times. You and me are going to get along fine.
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Because one of the, one of the things I noticed is that this never goes split screen at all. You're sharing a screen at any, at any given point in time.
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It would pull you out of the experience. These games rely on being intimate, almost speechless experiences where you're absorbing all of it and taking it all in. Yeah.
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Right, and I think this sort of segues nicely into what I wanted to talk to you about next, is that these games are very atmospheric in nature. The priority of making sure that the atmosphere is maintained takes priority over having just a bunch of different game mechanics in them. It Takes Two and Split Fiction, for instance, are almost like...
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almost like party games in a way, in that they have so many game mechanics packed into them that it de-emphasizes the actual, the story and the narrative experience of it. One thing that I was surprised to hear when we talked to Tobias Lillia recently was how late the sound design, I guess, comes into, or at least from his experience, came into the gaming process.
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And for me, that seems like, especially in what we would consider to be indie games, although I'm not sure if this necessarily qualifies anymore, but the sound design seems like an inseparable part of the experience. I couldn't even imagine...
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trying to design a game like this without the audio you know without the audio component uh so now that you have a couple of these sort of like horror games under your belt did the audio did the sound design come into the overall design process earlier now or is it more or less the same where you've got kind of the visual aspect first and and then the sound design comes in later
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Well, Dave, we're running a little short on time, and I just want to say, man, I am so excited for this. Everything I've seen, everything I've heard, everything I've played in the past, I have just such high hopes for this with a certainty that you'll deliver. I know there's probably a lot of pre-release anxiety for you guys. No pressure. Well, yeah, but I mean, pressure is good.
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Diamonds are created under pressure, and I think you've got a diamond getting ready to release here. I hope so. But before we go, since we've kind of been in this spooky mode of thinking for a bit, we want to just ask a couple of rapid-fire questions to kind of lighten the mood before we take off here. Nice. So, what is your favorite horror movie of all time? Firewalk of Me.
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Did you ever see a movie called Hereditary by any chance?
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Yeah, I would agree with that. Midsommar didn't quite... Hereditary, I really love. Midsommar didn't quite deliver, so I think we can all agree on that. If you were in a zombie apocalypse, what would be your weapon of choice, sir?
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We all did, I'm sure. Josh, same question to you, actually. What would be your weapon of choice?
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That's true.
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You can make plastic out of a liquor store, basically. Mothballs, corn syrup. We talked very briefly about the old Resident Evil games and fixed camera games and stuff like that. What would you say is the scariest game you've ever played?
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Yeah. I agree. That felt like that was my first taste of a true evolution in gaming generations. When we went from sort of cartridges to Resident Evil, I was like, whoa, what is this? I was probably too young to experience it, if I'm being honest. Yeah. Last couple of questions here. What is one horror trope that you love and one horror trope that you hate?
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That's how effective it is though.
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What about the one you hate? I'll tell you mine. Mine is people who go upstairs in a horror movie. Like, just don't ever go upstairs. Yeah, man.
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That went really, really well. Oh, man. What a great movie when that came out.
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So it became this thing where basically any time they ran into somebody who was a survivor that was outside of the group, they would go, oh, please help me. We're stuck out here and we just need help. You know with certainty that person is going to try and kill you at some point. Just walk away, walk away. But they kept helping him out.
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Oh, before we sign out, Dave, where can people... Murph. Murph, sorry. Dave Murph. Nightmare Man. Where can people follow...
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Well, no pressure, but yeah, again, my anticipation levels that at 11 right now. So I am, uh, I'm really curious. You said you started work with Tarsier Studios on LittleBigPlanet. How does working on a game like that ultimately evolve into working on something like Little Nightmares? Like, was that... Did that come out of... Yeah, but you know what?
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There is... Did you just look at Sackboy and you're like, man, this guy is too happy. We got to put this guy through hell.
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It does. Now that you're mentioning it, even the textures of what you're walking and grabbing onto and those sorts of things, you see a lot of that in LittleBigPlanet, and I think that comes through. It certainly seems like some of the experience carried over.
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Oh my gosh, guys, I am so excited. You could have just put me in a room by myself in a little 4x4 room and I would be able to talk about this endlessly. I'm so stoked for this. John did say he could do this episode all by himself.
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Yeah, it sounds really organic. We were just talking to another studio very recently called Milky Tea Studios, and they were talking about their evolutionary process of how their current game, Grit and Valor 1949, came about. And it was originally supposed to be just kind of a small scale real time strategy type game that was World War II based.
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And they're like, you know, this just isn't working for whatever reason. And through chats and just natural evolution of discussion, they added mechs to it. And boom, now they've got this diesel punk game that's really cool that came out of it. And so it sounds like you guys had a similar evolutionary process where you had this like
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right balanced so i want to talk about that a bit so uh and apologize apologies for the people in our discord community because i talk about your games all the time little nightmares one and two and especially two are some of my favorite games of all time little nightmares two is in my top three It's a game that I can play over and over and over again.
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And the reason that I think that is for me is because you guys are teetering on that balance between horror and whimsy. And there's just something just so beautiful and elegant about that. horror is a really crowded, um, a really crowded space in video games these days.
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What do you think you guys did in your approach that allowed you to have sort of a unique voice in this space where you're kind of balancing fear with wonder?
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Yeah. Got it. You have to be pretty proud of this product, man. It's really cool.
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It's a good controller, to be fair.
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Hello, fellow gamers, and welcome to the Video Gamers Podcast. Today's episode is for anyone who's ever dreamt of turning their passion into something real. What happens when you see a gap in the market and decide to take on industry giants like Nintendo and Sony? Today, we're talking to someone who did just that, not just to build a product, but how we change the way we game.
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right yeah uh yeah yeah absolutely it makes sense this this feels disruptive in the same exact way as when the ipod was released and it's like oh i guess we don't need like physical cds anymore my giant cd book is just useless now you know yeah but but i i do think there's still emerging awareness for it so we we created more or less a product review for this
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product that that you know how it saw some saw some dissemination on on social media but like we kept getting well yeah but like this can't compete with the switch because like i don't i don't need a controller to play candy crush i'm like no you don't get it bro You might not be playing Mario Brothers, but you're bringing freaking Halo on the go, man. You're bringing Master Chief on the go.
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You're playing brand new titles on the go on your phone. No download. It's streaming right to your phone. Oh, and by the way, did you know that this product is only $160 compared to... whatever, $450 that the Switch is proposing at this point. $80 a game? Dude, $25 a month, you pair your Game Pass with this thing. You have an entire game library for under $200. It's unbelievable.
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And it just so happens that they turned out a great product here. And, you know, we're looking forward to learning more about it.
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So I have to ask, because this seems like it would be extremely detrimental to some of the first part to to your Sony's, for instance, or your Xbox's. What what was it like, you know, forming collaboration with those companies? Like, for instance, I've got my I've got mine here, but you've got like Xbox right on your cover. I'm presuming you had to get their permission to do this.
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And now your products, your third-party product is competing with their ability to sell consoles. I know they're kind of like looking towards moving away from consoles at this point anyways, but what do those initial conversations look like?
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Pokemon does not count as compensation.
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Yeah, I've been doing that. Slay the Spire is a little indie game that came out a few years ago. And that's like my go-to walking cardio day game or whatever. But I've done that exact same thing where you save it on one and then you're able to pick it up right away. you know, right where you left off on the other one.
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Oh, that's true. That's true. Nobody sent us a jacket before, man. That was class. Yeah, we got shirts and hats and stuff, but jacket for sure was class. I don't know if you know this, though, but we're in Arizona. It's like 100 degrees right now.
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So, you know, it sounds like you were able to raise 40 some odd million dollars in development capital. What, how did you go about pitching this to people?
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I mean, like, you know, again, forgive, forgive the Kevin O'Leary shark tank reference, but like in the grand scheme of things, like you're probably like a cockroach and, and like, why, why you, you know, unless you, you know, it sounds like you've been in the biz for a while or whatever, but I mean, like, Anybody, you know, this could have come from anybody. Why you? How do you pitch this?
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There you go. We might be cutting the sleeves off of these and doing the Larry the Cable Guy thing.
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Right. That's great. I want to make sure to highlight something for any budding entrepreneurs out there, anybody who's looking to start a business. Every no is just one step closer to a yes. You have to be absolutely tenacious when you are looking to build a business and be absolutely crystalline confidence to be able to do it. Every You're going to hear a lot of no's in your journey.
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You're going to hear a lot of them. That's just part of the process. But all you need is one really good yes, and that sparks a huge wave of momentum. Thomas Edison famously created something like a thousand different iterations of the light bulb that failed before he made the one that worked. He only needed the one. You only need the one.
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Yeah, baby. So, Minnie, I have to understand the motivation behind what was the inspiration to create something like this. Anytime you bring something to market, especially retail, especially in gaming, you're really putting yourself out there. It's a crowded market with lots of... pretty cheap competitors out there and lots of big powerhouses. What was the spark behind it?
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Are you familiar with Jim Collins by any chance? He's a business author. He wrote a few books, Good to Great, Great by Choice, Built to Last, things like that. No, I'm not familiar. Well, anyway, there's a really important principle that I love quoting all the time. It is not that fortune favors the bold, it's that fortune favors the persistent.
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And that, I think, that applies in so many things in life, whether it's fitness or your friendships or certainly your business, obviously, but anything you're looking to progress at The consistency almost always beats intensity. If you really believe in something, you have to just continue to do the successful actions that will get you there. And you will have a higher likelihood of good fortune.
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Nothing's guaranteed, obviously, but you will have a higher likelihood of good fortune just based on your stamina, your ability to withstand and push aside those no's in conquest for the yes. So anyway, I love that, man. I love talking to entrepreneurs, Manny. This is such a cool- I can tell you're all geeked out right now, man. I love it. Oh, bro, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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For many, many, many years, my primary business was, my primary gaming was business. It is one of the most intoxicating games that you can have. And now it's awesome that I have both. There you go. So let me ask you this then, Manith. You are actually in this industry when there's a lot of questions circulating.
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You've got Xbox just kind of followed suit with Nintendo announcing that their prices for their first party games are going to be in that $80 range. We're hearing Grand Theft Auto for $100. You know, Switch is $450 and it frankly doesn't even have all the like peripheral devices that you need to make it work. I think the way they intended is this.
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Are you seeing signs that are sort of signaling the demise of dedicated consoles at this point? Or what's what's your what's your thought on that?
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So then, this is really interesting to me. We have talked probably a bit too much on this Nintendo Switch to reveal that Nintendo does a fantastic job of maintaining integrity of their first-party titles. They have some of the most iconic IPs in gaming. But technologically, they've always been just in raw computing power.
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a bit behind and i think when this switch to um the nintendo direct came out where they were announcing the switch to and the price point and stuff there was certainly a lot of sticker shock that we were exposed to um you know by way of our gaming community people sort of flagging us in it or whatever and
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What is your thoughts on how Nintendo is positioning themselves coming into this next generation? Because they, at least outwardly, don't seem to be wanting to jump onto this cloud trend. It seems like they are very much sort of holding firm to kind of their bread and butter mobile gaming experience that they refined with the Switch.
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What frustrated or inspired you to start something like this?
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Yeah.
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Here's exactly things are worth exactly what people are willing to pay for it. People buy it every day too. Yeah, exactly. People buy it every day. There are a lot of Nintendo loyalists and again, they maintain a good integrity product. I think there's a certain amount of nostalgia that helps to float their brand as well.
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They have, again, some of the most iconic IPs that you can only get through Nintendo. They certainly satisfy a niche, but I can't help but feeling there's like a blockbuster video element to this, man, where they're like, no, man, we're doubling down on this. It's going to be DVDs forever. And we're like, guys, have you heard of Netflix? This thing is like really emerging here.
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Nah, we won't worry about it right now. We're selling DVDs. We're writing DVDs. Well, yeah, but there's also this on-demand video. You don't even need a cartridge or anything to be able to watch this anymore. Don't worry about it. And then by the time they reacted, by the time they pivoted, too late.
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Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting. Yeah. And RIP Sega for similar reasons. You know, I guess they weren't just able to compete on a I don't know. Actually, I mean, this actually raises an interesting question for me, Manith.
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So again, you know, it sounds like you've been pretty successful in raising capital, but the dollars that we're talking about, at least on this show, are pretty small compared to your big, you know, your big Sonys and Microsofts and that kind of thing. No question. What do you do to communicate to your customers? Like, what are you doing to find people? Like, I feel like this product has a,
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and I'm an example of this, you know, I was your ideal customer. I'm your ideal customer. And it wasn't until I work on a video game podcast and I happened to receive a solicitation from an agency that said like, hey, we've got an interesting story to tell and a good product. Would you guys be interested in seeing what it looks like? And we go, yeah, you know, this looks interesting.
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And we just happened to be on this sort of
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cloud hype or whatever but uh but the you're not just communicating hey our product is the best it's like you're re-educating your your average customer it's like no no this isn't candy crush this isn't that silly game where your guy is running back and forth and multiplying their troops and avoiding barrels or whatever but then it ends up being candy crush yeah this is like this is this is what you this is the quintessential high polish gaming experience
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but on your phone, how do you, how do you educate your customers and then also convince them that this is the right product?
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It's certainly the most iconic component of whatever device you favor. There's almost like an allegiance associated with it.
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Yep, I can confirm that. And I'm a larger man. I'm six foot two and this felt very good in my hands.
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Well, I was going to say, so for anybody viewing the actual video of this, I'm showing the actual product here. So... The first thing, very first impression that I had, yep, when I picked this controller up is that it feels tremendously high quality. Like, we were just talking about the Xbox controller, which I think is a very fine controller.
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This feels better built to me than that Xbox controller. The PlayStation is probably... Honestly, I would say that from a quality perspective and just from a design elegance perspective, this is right there, man. I mean, it is a gorgeous, like, it looks like a luxury product. It looks very high-end.
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Even just the sheen of black, like the satin black color that you have on it, the way the joysticks feel, the button response, everything, even the extension here to be able to install it around your phone. I mean, it just feels... It feels over-engineered a little bit. Honestly, it feels fantastic. It is a really cool quality product, man.
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But I will say that, so you were mentioning that because of advances in technology, you were able to produce these iterations and stuff. you know, pretty quickly, you are not the only person with access to those iterations. What is the company doing itself to defend itself against like knockoff products? Like, you know, like your Temu and your AliExpress stuff.
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Yeah, exactly.
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In what capacity, do you mind me asking?
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Well, right. But you've done all that work now. You know, like it's a lot easier to reverse engineer something, you know, like for me, it would be, I'm, I'm like, I'm a dummy. I, you know, I didn't know what the Z whatever thing you, the Z dimension you guys were talking about. But I feel like I could have a much better go at copying this thing than I could at creating it initially.
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Just tell me I'm really smart, Meneath.
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So you're really fun at a party is what you're saying.
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Well, that's awesome. Yeah, I got to tell you, we're running a little short on time here. But I have to tell you, we were absolutely impressed with this product. It feels like a true premium quality device that feels like a genuine disruptor in the gaming market field, whatever you want to call it, gaming industry.
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I can't recommend this high enough, especially for all those travelers out there, heavy commuters. What a wonderful way to be able to take your hobby on the go. And, uh, I mean, I just, aside from that, it's cool. It is. It is.
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Are you a late-to-sleep, late-nighter, or early riser?
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Game Pass or PlayStation Plus? Both of them. No, you gotta go this or that. No, I'm on both of them.
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Do you see this cloud trend maybe blurring those lines a bit, like the first-party title lines? Or do you see it more going the way Netflix has their own shows and Paramount Plus has their own shows, and now it's less that PlayStation is a...
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But first, some introductions are in order. I am your host, John, and I'm joined today by Ryan. Ryan, say hello.
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As long as you're using Backbone. Yes, of course.
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Awesome. Many of this is probably a good time to wrap up. Thank you so much for joining us on the show. We're going to be, uh, Oh, where can people find more about, uh, backbone?
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So we'll make sure we'll post those links in our, uh, in our podcast description below, which you guys can find in your, um, On your viewer. And we, of course, want to thank everybody for tuning in. If you've enjoyed the show, please take a moment to like us on or follow us on your podcast viewer of choice. It's either going to be a follow button or a plus button or something along those lines.
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And finally, if you want to be a part of the story, if you want to be a part of the dialogue here, our Discord community is amazing. We've got almost a thousand actively engaging people on it all the time. The hosts, myself and Ryan included, are on there all the time. And we chat with people about games and business and fitness and food and any other number of things. Please join us.
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It's free to join. We would love to talk to you. That's going to be it for everybody here or for us, everybody. We hope you enjoyed the show. And until next time, happy gaming. See ya. Thank you.
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It's a beautiful interface too, by the way.
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What? You can do that? That's amazing. Did you say day one also? And joining us today is the CEO of Backbone, Manith Khaira. I may have butchered the last name. I should have clarified that before the show. To talk about a product called the Backbone Pro. Mobile gaming's glow up and what the future looks like when your phone becomes your console. Manith, how are you?
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Wow, interesting.
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Such is the life of a startup.
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Yeah, I got to tell you. So this is a really interesting story that you're sharing. And I do believe that you are solving or at least capitalizing on a real opportunity that exists in gaming. And it's something that I think maybe is becoming a bit more salient, a bit more visible to your average viewer. But I'll be honest, man. I've seen your products in...
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In Best Buy, walking around and, you know, it wasn't immediate. Like the concept of cloud gaming, like AAA titles to my phone, it just didn't even compute. And so I walk by it and I go, huh, that's interesting, but I don't play mobile games. You know, I have my Switch for that type of game, but most of the game, you know, I'm a console gamer and will probably always be a console gamer.
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And it wasn't until very recently when I was, I'll be honest, like I wake up at like three o'clock or two o'clock every morning. I'm a very terrible sleeper. I sleep like two to three hours a night. And so my PlayStation is in my bedroom, but my wife's asleep. And so I go, well, you know, if I'm going to occupy my time right now, I don't want to wake her up.
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Yeah, awesome. Well, we're excited to talk about the product as well and learn a bit more about you and your journey here. Before we kind of get rolling in the conversation, though, I feel like there's an important disclaimer that I have to share. So, Manith and Backbone were kind enough to share demo units with Ryan and I of their new product, the Backbone Pro.
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So one morning I was like, you know what? If I'm going to be up, I'm going to be productive with my time. I work on a video game podcast. Why not game? So I go out to the living room and I remembered that there was this, you know, this pop-up that happens on my Samsung TV every once in a while for cloud gaming. It just says, you know, play brand new titles, no console needed.
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And I was like, I have an Xbox controller. Let's give this a whirl. So I hooked up my Xbox controller to my TV and all of a sudden I'm playing brand new games online. Fairly seamlessly. I won't say 100% seamlessly, but fairly seamlessly on my TV, on my game pass. And I go, what is this? Like, did I just like kind of like unlock a cheat code? Like it's for $25 and no console.
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I've unlocked like a buffet of wonderful games, wonderful, proper AAA games of any genre that you could potentially want. And so it was like, wow, there's really something to this cloud gaming concept, you know? And... what does this mean for consoles? Like if I can play these titles in great fidelity with no console, what does this actually mean for consoles?
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And then it just so happened, you know, we, we, uh, we receive requests for, for interviews and that kind of thing pretty, pretty regularly. You know, we're at, we're at top in our category for, for gaming on many of the podcast carriers and stuff.
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But when your agency reached out to us with this concept, it was like primed perfectly because I was just riding this cloud tram like, man, this seems really, really important. This seems like a paradigm shift in the industry. And so we received the product and I walk a lot. My wife happened to be out of town, but I walk a lot.
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I walk, I don't know, 20, 30,000 steps a day just as a part of my kind of normal fitness routine. I have it stacked. I have my business calls. I listen to podcasts, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. and I drink a toxic amount of coffee.
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So got this product, hooked it up to my phone, The installation took seconds. And within a couple of minutes, I was able to stream a brand new heavy lift game called Claire Obscure Expedition 33, which is, by the way, we've been shilling this game forever.
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If you haven't played it yet, it's, it's amazing, but it's extremely relevant, right? We are not talking mobile games. We are talking full on huge lifts, triple a title that has an enormous graphical load. And I was playing it on my phone with the, at least to my eye, A imperceptible difference in quality as I would have been playing it on my PlayStation. And it freaking blew me away, dude.
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I sold my business. I used to run a pretty large, comparatively, HVAC business in Washington State. Sold it a couple of years ago. But up until that point, I was traveling quite a bit. My wife and I traveled a ton for work, for attending conferences and this kind of thing. We walk a lot. were very pedestrian, lots of time spent in airports, train stations, you know, bus stops, that kind of thing.
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And other than that, we have received absolutely no compensation, monetary or otherwise, for this product. And the reason this is important is that I won't speak for Ryan on this, but I quite frankly had a superlative experience with this product. And I don't want my enthusiasm to be mistaken for product placement at any point in time. Maneath, we feel, has a very interesting story to share.
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And man, this would have been absolutely incredible. Dude, any traveler out there, anybody who's just like a walker and looking to increase their activity while maintaining their gaming habits, dude, what a game changer, man. This is unbelievable. So I have to ask, man, I mean, like, Is this your first company that you started?
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Does this person want to be known as well-known leaker?
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I'm like, I don't know where to go. It's cool, but it's depressing. So we were just talking about Elder Scrolls. I haven't tried to play an Elder Scrolls game since Morrowind. Oh, dude, you're missing out. Well, yeah. Honestly, when I tried to play it way back in 2002 or whenever that came out, I didn't like it. And so it's been in my perpetual backlog for a long time.
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But it's hard for me to get excited about a remake of Oblivion when I'm like, I just saw two hours worth of awesome trailers, you know? Yeah.
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There might be some sort of haptic trigger or something like that.
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Well, it's really interesting because I'm not sure that he can be swayed. I think that it is just the essence of that turn-based stuff that doesn't work for some people. Just like the hero shooter format just for some reason doesn't work for me, man. You're all crazy! Fair, fair. Well, yes, coming from the guy who didn't finish The Last of Us. Yeah, okay, fair enough. Yeah.
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But for me, what I can tell you is that like, so right now I'm playing metaphory Fantasia, which is like, I love the Atlas games. I love persona five is like one of my top games or whatever. Uh, and I know you guys were like, you know, the style's not for you, but again, you recognize this is a good game.
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I'm finding myself like speed running through metaphor right now, just cause I'm like, I don't want to waste one minute. For when Expedition comes, Expedition 33 comes out. Like, I want to hit that as soon as it comes out, man. I'm so stoked for it, dude. But yeah, I think Male, Bile, I don't remember the female character. Male, something like that?
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Yeah, the freaking Kylo Ren rapier, man. Oh my God, it looks so awesome, dude. I'm like, again, Goosebumps just talking about it right now, man. I'm so hyped for that game.
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You know what? I don't know if you guys ever used to do this, but I remember specifically back in like the old school fixed camera Resident Evil days. I used to have like friends that would come over or I would go over to friends houses and we would like there'd be like three or four of us like in a room watching the guy play.
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And it was almost like this shared experience where, you know, like watching a long form movie and experiencing all of the surprises and stuff together. Like this feels like one of those types of games. Like, Ryan, maybe we need to have like a little slumber party or something. There we go.
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When I first heard about this game, I was kind of chalking it up to like a dynasty warriors in like, you know, cosplay basically in night cosplay. But I definitely want to play this game now. It looks it looks awesome.
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sir.
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the interest and i do see why people would like the game and and what what they've seen you know with what has been released right john yeah uh i mean for me i'm a much easier sell on this type of game uh like i love the animation style i love the music in it the the setting is unique that you know it's not a very common setting for this type of game i was also a little i
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kind of mid on on the gameplay but i put story far above gameplay a lot of time and so if the story and narrative of a game is really strong i can forgive some average uh gameplay but i agree you know it's it seems it seems a bit more interesting than i was initially giving credit for it i'm definitely picking this up it's just a matter of when at this point you know i mean yeah
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There's so many bangers on this list and they're all like coming, you know, like basically like my two most anticipated games of the year are coming out one right after the other, you know, in the, in the near future here. And then I guess we'll see what we have time for. And I'm already in metaphor right now, which is supposed to be 100-some-odd-hour games.
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Well, so number one, I want to acknowledge what you're looking for is like the most dynamic gameplay and progression in a game. This probably isn't for you. What this is, is a... whimsical horror, which is probably like, if you were to pick my favorite genre, it's that for some reason, like whimsical horror and everything that they learned and did well from little nightmares.
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One, which was a really good game to narratively for me as a masterpiece, this looks like they leveled absolutely everything up and it's co-op, you know? I mean, it's like a super cool game. It sounds like they, um, there were some, um,
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what we'll call age-related content constraints when they were developing Little Nightmares 1 and 2, where they kind of had to hold back a little bit, even though they are still extremely creepy games, that they have a bit more freedom with re-animal. Man, I... We'll wait to play it, but I'm willing to bet that my top 10 of all time list gets maneuvered a couple around.
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You know, it's interesting that you say that, though, because like when when we were watching these the future game show trailers, it seemed like it was weighted very heavily into sort of the horror horror genre. Like we had I hate this place, which is definitely more like that stylized kind of comic book.
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But we had animal use protocol, which had definitely like that sort of post-apocalyptic horror element to it. We had Kronos, The New Dawn, which, you know, it looks cool, but it looks too similar to Bioshock meets Dead Space for me. It just looked a little too derivative. That I, you know, I'm not...
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I'm not quite sure that the push over the, you know, into the more rated M type content is exactly like what it needs per se to make it successful. But what I do know is that Tarsier studios, they have learned tremendously from, from their experience so far in little nightmares one and two. And I think that they have something to prove with part,
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Yeah, and so I just beat Prince of Persia The Lost Crown, which was also a great game. It was a great game, fantastic game by any measure. But it's graphically like by all accounts, you would think of it as a like a lower lift sort of game. Like it doesn't have the immense scope and production value that like an Assassin's Creed game does.
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My Nintendo Switch under the sheets for me, that's totally like my little hidey hole game. That's awesome.
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And so when I got to the end of the game, the credits start rolling and I go, oh, OK, you know, I'm going to be in this for a minute or two to see, you know, everybody. I want to get past the end game to see if there's any like stingers happening. for the story and stuff like that.
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And, uh, the store, the credits start rolling and rolling and rolling and rolling and rolling this for a Prince of Persia game. And I go, my gosh, how many people did it take to produce this little game? And now you scale that up for Assassin's Creed. And when you take into account every single person's name, you see there, there's a dollar sign affixed to it. And you go, 2 million players.
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I don't know. That doesn't sound like enough to offset whatever it must've cost to blow this game up.
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Yeah. And that's a real shame. So I have a thought on this and it's, it's, this is a real shame. This is the most gleaming example I can think of, but the last of us on the last of us to the last of us. One, universally accepted as one of the greatest games. It's especially from a storytelling component. Everybody loves it. Oh, except for Josh. Apparently couldn't, couldn't get, I liked the game.
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I just lost the shiny, shiny off in the corner and he went off and never came back. That's what I, I respect it. But yeah, You know, again, not every game is going to be for everybody and people play for different reasons. But I think it would be hard to argue that the storytelling component for The Last of Us was bad.
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Last of Us 2 comes out and there was a certain component of the audience that was triggered by some of the content before it was released. And then it became very popular to not like the game. And it put me off of playing it for quite a long time. Until basically about seven months ago, my friend Josh in Colorado goes, dude, have you ever actually played it? And I go, no, man.
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I just heard all this terrible stuff about it. He goes, dude, you got to play it. And that's absolutely in my top 10 of all time now. I would have put it above the first one. The storytelling is amazing in that game. And I'm frustrated with how... The reception just sort of got carried away with how popular it became to hate it. And I just worry about that with this new Assassin's Creed game.
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You know what? I got to play devil's advocate here for a second, you guys.
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Immediately, this a little bit of off off camera stuff for behind the scenes stuff for listeners here. But before the show, we go through sort of the games that are coming up for this twig episode to determine what we have the time to talk for. And I realize I'm eating some of that up right now. But we go over the games that are coming out.
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to determine what is at the top, like what must we cover? And when I'm looking at this list, there's several that we're not even going to be able to mention because of time that are probably going to be awesome games. And so I think with the sheer volume of potentially amazing games that come out, I think that your tolerance for okay games goes down. You know what I mean?
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Which is like, if you have an avowed, that's like a seven, eight out of 10.
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If you have an avowed, that's a seven, eight out of 10 or an assassin's creed. That's a seven, eight out of 10. Like, man, could you be banking those hours to play something? That's absolutely amazing. In your backlog, like red dead too, or, uh, or, um, dang it, John, why are you going to make sense, man? I'm just saying, I'm just saying like, like, why would I, John be,
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This is the first time I've ever been on the non-doofest team, you guys.
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If it looks cool, go play it. Yeah.
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I was recently told that my doofusness is like my most redeeming quality. I'm not sure what to do. I feel like happy and sad at the same time.
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Can we do a show where it's just 100 ad breaks and 100 different cliffhangers? Right after this. Dude, let me tell you about the greatest game I have ever played. Right after this.
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You know what? If you're burning through them like crazy because of the stick drift, why not get more money out of you? Raise the price, people.
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Oblivion Remaster, Expedition 33 Predictions and Bye Bye Baldur's Gate 3 - Gaming Podcast
They don't do that with the Leviathan Axe.
Video Gamers Podcast
Oblivion Remaster, Expedition 33 Predictions and Bye Bye Baldur's Gate 3 - Gaming Podcast
John's going to start smoking after this.
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Oblivion Remaster, Expedition 33 Predictions and Bye Bye Baldur's Gate 3 - Gaming Podcast
Just trash a business. You know what I mean? To be like, hey, man.
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Oblivion Remaster, Expedition 33 Predictions and Bye Bye Baldur's Gate 3 - Gaming Podcast
And then, like, Ryan and I are like, so?
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Oblivion Remaster, Expedition 33 Predictions and Bye Bye Baldur's Gate 3 - Gaming Podcast
That's why I love John's using logic and business sense and all this against Ryan and I who are just like, no, man, we just want to trash this. No, make it work. What am I supposed to do with these two idiots that won't listen to anything?
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Oblivion Remaster, Expedition 33 Predictions and Bye Bye Baldur's Gate 3 - Gaming Podcast
Well, yeah.
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Oblivion Remaster, Expedition 33 Predictions and Bye Bye Baldur's Gate 3 - Gaming Podcast
We didn't get anything right.
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Oblivion Remaster, Expedition 33 Predictions and Bye Bye Baldur's Gate 3 - Gaming Podcast
You were like, oh, I see this tripwire right here.
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Oblivion Remaster, Expedition 33 Predictions and Bye Bye Baldur's Gate 3 - Gaming Podcast
I'm kind of with Ryan where I'm like, John, you don't... You might be missing something that you didn't know what you were missing, buddy.
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Oblivion Remaster, Expedition 33 Predictions and Bye Bye Baldur's Gate 3 - Gaming Podcast
All right.
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Oblivion Remaster, Expedition 33 Predictions and Bye Bye Baldur's Gate 3 - Gaming Podcast
Yes.
Video Gamers Podcast
Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
It's the principle Josh wants to be able to steal.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
He's too slick for that.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
Okay, so I'm going to sell you an Amiiboy.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
So they streamlined it and charged more? Yeah, exactly. Wouldn't it be easier to just pay... Sorry, I'm done. Hold on, we've gone like 25 minutes on this.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
We are. And hold on. I think the way you guys always go at it, I think there should be kind of like an announcement and you guys can just face off and go at it however you want to do it. But I will give you a little intro here for you guys. So. In the red corner, the Nintendo sympathizer who specializes in using logic and reason to defend the almighty Nintendo, it's John!
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All right, we're going to score this. Let's see here. 99 to 98. And you can submit to the Nintendo Super Score Pass for $9.99 to get the results of who got what.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
Just kidding. Not trying to start anything else up. Let's go. Move on. We're moving on. That was fun. Okay.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
Love you guys.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
I was just watching. I wish I had popcorn.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
Because we got more to cover.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
Chomping at the bit. Maybe. I don't know.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
And in the blue corner, he specializes in using excitement and being loud to prove his point and is an anti-establishment fighter known as Josh.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
It is the worst timing. Well, for someone who, I mean, the amount of Destiny and Destiny 2 that I played and then, like, falling off just because I just got so sick of what Bungie was doing, you know, and I loved them. I was a huge fan, and I'd spent thousands of hours playing their IP. Like... when I heard this, I'm like, man, freaking bungee, you know?
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And I do, I feel for him because obviously somebody dropped the ball there where one of their underlings did this and they didn't vet it right or check it right. And you know, things like that happen, totally get it. And it sucks, but I hope for them that they can figure out a way to manage this and mitigate this issue like effectively. Cause I do, I don't want anyone to fail or not succeed.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
And, um, I just think with Marathon, it just keeps stacking up. After Destiny, now Marathon, and then it was already getting lukewarm reviews. And then the sweats aren't going to like it because it's not realistic and tactical enough. And then the casuals aren't going to really buy it as much because they don't like extraction shooters, you know?
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
So, I mean, it's going to be interesting to see how it all plays out after all this and then what lawsuits ensue. So, I don't know. We'll see. Yeah.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
Yeah.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
Look at how quick they're pulling cords on everything nowadays. How many studios or layoffs do you see every month?
Video Gamers Podcast
Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
So, you know, in all Nintendo's glory, they decide to just, you know, do something a little bit more crazy. Again, you know, have you guys ever, you know, heard of your friends, family, people that you know that like to just do a little bit of mods to systems, change things a little bit? You know, it's your property. You bought it. You can do what you want with it, right? Yep. If you want.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
I was going to bring that up.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
Not according to all glory to Nintendo. They will now brick your system, making it essentially a paperweight if you violate their terms of service and agreement, which they recently altered.
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How does this hit for you? Okay, so for me, as someone, you know, and this is not a shade at anyone who doesn't have children, but when you have a kid, it's something where you truly learn what love is, and you understand, like, I loved my wife. More than I can ever imagine. And the second we had our son, I would push her in front of a bus if it meant saving my son's life.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
We are recording this, right? Oh yeah, no. She would do the same and I would be mad if she didn't. That's the way you feel about a child. And Knowing me and how much... I see friends here and there and I'll go golfing with buddies and stuff like that, but my son is my best friend in the world. And my daughter, I love her to death and we hang out and we have a great relationship.
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If either one of my kids died and I had to see them in VR, I would never leave.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
Because that's what it would be. And I could never, ever, ever do that. Because there's no way you could pull me away from being back with the most important thing that will ever be in my life. Dude.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
I would never leave, which is why I would never do it.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
OK, so you're saying I would I would never, ever do that because it's not it's not real, man. At the end of the day, it's not real.
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You know, I disappear, dude. I'd be in the forest for like months. Yeah.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
Good segue. Nice transition, bro. The hardest of pivots.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
Think about what Anakin would have done for his kids, man. He was going to take over the whole galaxy.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
Oh, my goodness. What is going on with these guys? This is unhinged. So guys, speaking of unhinged, Vader's dropping some crazy stuff right now.
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We're all children.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
Yeah.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
We actually... I was playing... Believe it or not, I whipped out the backbone, and I was playing Fortnite on the couch on my phone next to my son because he wanted to play a couple matches, which is awesome, by the way. But anyways... He was... There was two people left. And he was playing duos. I had died. It was him and one other guy. And then he shoots Vader on accident.
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And so then Vader comes charging at him. The other guy comes charging at him. And then Vader ends up killing him. But he's, like, talking during the whole time. And I was like, holy crap. And right after is when I saw all this stuff. And I was so bummed that we couldn't try to mess with him. And I didn't see this stuff before. Because it was cool. You could see him. And he's talking.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
And he fights you and stuff. So... But leave it up to gamers to figure out a way to just be 13 years old and just mess with these things. We never grow up, man. No, it's wild.
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That's going to be John as Peter Pan World in Never Never Land.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
Are you sure you're done? Let's hope so. Are you guys done? We're done.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
And those are both federal and state level issues as well, not a private entity.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
I didn't even think about that. But I saw him the other day, and I was pretty excited and messed around with Vader.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
Don't be an idiot.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
But when you find out Mr. Smith Has built Tag me out buddy You find out Mr. Smith Has modified the exterior Of his HVAC unit That's going to cause warranty issues or damage You don't go Oh no, he didn't. And you go and pull his compressors and be like, yeah, now your system doesn't work anymore. Sucker.
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You know, you let it, it breaks and you say, Hey, I'm sorry you did this. It's not covered.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
I'm actually more on John's side than I thought I would be, though.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
The original Xbox. Yeah, the box, yeah.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
I'm pretty sure that was really sad. I mean... With the legality of it, I'm pretty sure from what I read also that in their terms of service now, they put in there that you can't sue them. Yeah, exactly. So if that happens, you can't come back. So they know what they're doing is a little – but I will say I do – You can sue anybody for anything. Well, yeah. It just won't go very far.
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Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
I do see John's side a little bit more than I thought I would, but I think it's the accumulation of Nintendo just over decades. You can tell they're always just sticking it to the consumer with how they run everything and how their games are and stuff. Don't even. You can't. Come on. At least a little bit.
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Here's the difference.
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For sure.
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Bungie's Big Reveal, Hades II Exclusivity, and Switch 2 Controller Drama - TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I could see it would be divisive.
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Bungie's Big Reveal, Hades II Exclusivity, and Switch 2 Controller Drama - TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I am pumped, pumped. Guys, it is so cool to be doing this in the room with you, man. Yeah, it really is. I'm, like, super stoked. Love it. Somebody smells really bad, though. That's Ryan. That's Ryan over there.
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I just got that!
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Bungie's Big Reveal, Hades II Exclusivity, and Switch 2 Controller Drama - TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Yeah, I'd be at like base build basically forever.
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Bungie's Big Reveal, Hades II Exclusivity, and Switch 2 Controller Drama - TWIG | Gaming Podcast
This is an AOE. Oh, my goodness. My attack. Is this Ryan's ultimate?
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So as somebody who hasn't played anything, obviously, and I'm going to be reserving judgment until we get the opportunity to play it, I know this about Bungie. When they were pitching Halo initially, the... people that they were answerable to had lots of opinions. They didn't like the name. They thought it was confusing. They didn't like any of the aesthetic designs.
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They thought, why another shooter? There's lots of shooters that are already successful in this space. And Bungie said, no, we've got a very crystalline, singular focus on this. We know what we're doing. And they delivered it. And I think what they did was they took a, you know, a pretty unnovel concept of a shooter and they really, really dialed it in and refined it.
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I think that it is possible that Bungie saw that there is an opportunity in this extraction shooter space where they said, you know what, there's there's something to this, but nobody's really done it right yet. Perhaps we can perhaps we can do that. Yeah. And that's that's where I would. That's where I would hang my hat at this point. I have faith in Bungie.
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I think that they will pull out a banger. I think this is going to be popular. I think that there are probably novel innovations in this that we just haven't been able to realize yet at this stage in its reveal and development. But I have faith. Bungie, I'm rooting for you.
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Those are valid points. Absolutely valid points, guys.
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Jared, we're looking at you, buddy. Jared was a guest on the show from Bungie. He was one of the devs on it. Jared, come on, buddy. Help me, Jared.
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I love it. Frankly, the Nintendo Direct wasn't mind-blowing for me. There were some nice reveals and stuff, and they spent a lot of time talking about the hardware, which wasn't terribly interesting to me. But what I thought they needed were some really good
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exclusive some some compelling reason other than ports of games that have already been out for a while to pick it up day one donkey kong not it for me we got a lot of we got a lot of contrary feedback again on social media when we some people love donkey kong yeah yeah apparently there's a really really big donkey kong community and they're good games we've never said they're bad games slandering donkey kong just is it gonna sell consoles is all
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I loved Hades. I loved it. I loved Hades as well. It is roguelike perfection to me. Absolute perfection. And I, like you, loved it so much that I've been putting off playing the pre-release. I want to play the full game. And this is a very compelling reason for me to get a Switch 2. I'm stoked.
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Yeah. And it's, for me, it's a game that makes sense for their platform too. Like the from soft, uh, title that's coming out. What is it? Yeah.
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That's it. Yeah. It's cool that they got that agreement from software, but that's not the right type of game for the Switch for me. Hades is like the perfect portable game. It was great for me at the time when I was playing it. I was traveling a lot. I was in a lot of airports. I was in a lot of bus stations, train stations. It was awesome.
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It was deep and it could keep me engaged as long or as short as I had time for. And that is a selling proposition for Nintendo for me.
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Actually, no. No? Okay. The Direct got me... lukewarm on it, if I'm being honest. I was hoping for something like this, some compelling reason.
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Assuming it is Switch 2 exclusive, definitely yes. Even if it's backwards compatible, still probably yes. I know there are going to be titles that come out for the Switch that I'm going to want at some point. You know, whatever the next 3D Mario is, is one of those. I love the Mario games. Um... it'll probably be a holiday 2025 release that they just haven't put out yet.
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Nintendo, Nintendo announces their releases in a much shorter window, typically, which is nice. Yeah. Which I love. I love to. And so I have faith that, uh, I guess it'll depend on how many switches they're moving. Um,
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or how available they are you know there's there's socio-political economic things happening right now that might chafe you know might choke that a bit but to in short yes i at the first hades was man it should be in my top 10 it's definitely like a top 12 or something it's tiptoeing around the top 10 and i love my switch i still play it all the time uh that that would be a mover for me certainly
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Oh, yeah. But... even today found out that there are some things that just don't make sense to me from a business perspective if i was trying to move consoles that would be exclusive to that console and i would take the backlash hey look guys we're moving on to the next generation yeah you coming with us or not deal with it yeah if not you still have hades one it's a great game yeah all right
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Big time.
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Yeah. And that's that's fair. You're you're a pretty like kinetic, you know, keep going kind of guy. So it makes it makes sense. I grew up on tabletop gaming.
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I feel even worse about that. Liam Neeson or Leslie Nielsen? No, he's dead. Yeah, exactly. Liam Neeson. It would be way better if they got him in it.
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This is great. And I like to, you know, anybody who's watched our Instagram, I like to play games while I'm walking on my treadmill and are, you know, turn based RPGs, specifically tactical turn based RPGs are the best for it. And I love Star Wars. It's one of my very favorite IPs in all of fiction. And for as good as that IP is, there's not as many good games as there should be.
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So I'm really looking forward to this one. This could be good.
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Awesome. It's so good. One of the best Star Wars.
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Yeah. She's locked in baby. She's locked in. I'm pumped man. Is she into star Wars at all? No, no. So I would love to hear what her opinion is. Um, I've been trying to pitch it to my wife too. She has zero. No, I wouldn't say zero interest in star Wars, but next to zero. Um, But I think that that show is so good on its own merits that you don't have to be a Star Wars fan. It's so well written.
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You might lose me on that one for a while. Yeah.
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My man representing.
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Give the people what they want. That Venom's caked up.
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Just go ahead. Go ahead. It makes sense, right? Well, I am a corporate sympathizer. I am the corporate sympathizer of the three. I would hope. Yeah, come over here. Come over here. Good video only content there. It's very clearly two on one now. I am the corporate sympathizer. I would like to hope that this is not, in fact, deliberate obsolescence where they're like... How can it not be?
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iteration your next release like when you can and you raise well they didn't they didn't fix it with this specific technology i don't know that they haven't figured out some other way to fix it i don't know one way or another we'll have to wait and see this is all speculation at this point i will say to your point that i have never had to replace a controller from any other system now i'm exclusively a console gamer
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Except for the Switch.
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Switch is the only one that I've had, and I, like, yeah, I've run through, I don't know, I'm probably on, like, fifth pair of Joy-Cons or something like that.
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So, you know, it's certainly a known issue. I have faith that it is a Japanese-built company and that they are an integrity-based society and that they're going to fix this, and I'll eat my words if I'm wrong.
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No, no. That was their profit. On what revenue? Cause I think it was like, I don't know, 60, I think it was like $60 billion in revenue, something like that. And three, $3 billion in profit or something like that. Something. So they kept five pennies out of every dollar.
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Okay. It's a, it's a lot of dollars until you factor in EBITDA. You have to factor in amortization and taxation. You have to figure in dividends that you have to pay your, your,
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Absolutely.
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We lost half the audience.
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I agree. Charge what you need to to put the thing out correctly. Yeah.
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Yeah, but I mean that's going to be leveled if they end up having to pay out this class action lawsuit. That's what I'm saying. If I'm thinking about this from a corporate perspective, they go, hey, we in a very real way are liable. We have liability because of this. We're being sued.
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I guess what I'm saying is that if the initial argument was – hey, we're going to make a lot of money by selling all of these additional controllers because we have built-in obsolescence in our controllers, now they also have to contend with the fact that there's this lawsuit. And this lawsuit could end up costing way more than they made on these additional controllers. So if I am a big entity...
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screen games so you played pong remastered i played the original there you go yeah there you go mine was also pong my what i know this is the most uninteresting set of answers to a question ever but yeah my cousin had an atari they you know were set up better than i was and it was pong
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like nintendo and i'm going people are relying on me to release a quality product and i know that there's an issue with this we have to figure out a solution for it and i get again it may be ill-guided but i have i have faith in them as a corporation you're here you're gonna start hearing those commercials online like have you been wronged by nintendo joy-con controllers like
Video Gamers Podcast
Bungie's Big Reveal, Hades II Exclusivity, and Switch 2 Controller Drama - TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Has John at the Video Gamers Podcast led you wrong? Join us in this.
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Bungie's Big Reveal, Hades II Exclusivity, and Switch 2 Controller Drama - TWIG | Gaming Podcast
From around the world, too. From around the world.
Video Gamers Podcast
Bungie's Big Reveal, Hades II Exclusivity, and Switch 2 Controller Drama - TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Super exciting. Yeah.
Video Gamers Podcast
Bungie's Big Reveal, Hades II Exclusivity, and Switch 2 Controller Drama - TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Yeah. Panzer, I wish we had more interesting answers to your question, but as soon as we get a stay up late to hang with the boys merit badge, you're getting the first one.
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Bungie's Big Reveal, Hades II Exclusivity, and Switch 2 Controller Drama - TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Came in strong.
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Bungie's Big Reveal, Hades II Exclusivity, and Switch 2 Controller Drama - TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Yep. Silent golf clap for Ace. Well done. Good job, Ace, too.
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Bungie's Big Reveal, Hades II Exclusivity, and Switch 2 Controller Drama - TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Here we go.
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Bungie's Big Reveal, Hades II Exclusivity, and Switch 2 Controller Drama - TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I feel good. I actually feel so good that even though I know what you're going to say is negative, it's not going to tear me down, man. I feel good. Is it negative? Is it negative? Well, let's hear it.
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Bungie's Big Reveal, Hades II Exclusivity, and Switch 2 Controller Drama - TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Yeah. It's been in development for a long time.
Video Gamers Podcast
Bungie's Big Reveal, Hades II Exclusivity, and Switch 2 Controller Drama - TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Give me the general pitch for what an extraction shooter.
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Bungie's Big Reveal, Hades II Exclusivity, and Switch 2 Controller Drama - TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Oh, okay.
Video Gamers Podcast
Bungie's Big Reveal, Hades II Exclusivity, and Switch 2 Controller Drama - TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Somebody's going to need to quote beef me up, daddy.
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Bungie's Big Reveal, Hades II Exclusivity, and Switch 2 Controller Drama - TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Oh, yeah. Okay. All right. I like the concept.
Video Gamers Podcast
Bungie's Big Reveal, Hades II Exclusivity, and Switch 2 Controller Drama - TWIG | Gaming Podcast
So my big unresolved question is whether or not there is a campaign mode. I don't know how that works. Well, that sours a lot of things for me, unfortunately.
Video Gamers Podcast
Bungie's Big Reveal, Hades II Exclusivity, and Switch 2 Controller Drama - TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I love shooters in campaign mode. Like some of my favorite gaming memories were frankly Halo's campaign, like Halo 2, Halo 3 campaign. I love them. Absolutely. And honestly, like Rainbow Six games, a lot of the old Tom Clancy games, which were shooters I grew up on. I loved them. They're fantastic. And at that point in my life, I was also doing a lot of the LAN party stuff.
Video Gamers Podcast
Bungie's Big Reveal, Hades II Exclusivity, and Switch 2 Controller Drama - TWIG | Gaming Podcast
It didn't translate into the online, you know, you know, multiplayer things so much for me. But yeah, I enjoy a good shooter. I really like a good shooter. Do I want to play a game that's only a shooter like like multiplayer? Probably not. That actually that changes that changes things for me quite a bit. The art style, though, I thought looked really cool.
Video Gamers Podcast
Bungie's Big Reveal, Hades II Exclusivity, and Switch 2 Controller Drama - TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I was actually concerned initially out of the gate that they were going to be leaning too heavy on that sort of clunky, mech-y, Spartan-y kind of look that they're known for with Halo. And I didn't feel like Destiny was that big of a departure. I think that there's a lot of cosmetic similarities. But I really liked it. I thought it looked very sleek and kind of elegant and stuff and something new.
Video Gamers Podcast
Bungie's Big Reveal, Hades II Exclusivity, and Switch 2 Controller Drama - TWIG | Gaming Podcast
So I don't know. My look was, even though now I probably won't be playing a lot of it unless it's for like a community gaming night, that it looked like a good game for its genre.
Video Gamers Podcast
Bungie's Big Reveal, Hades II Exclusivity, and Switch 2 Controller Drama - TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I think that's largely positive, guys. That is very positive. I'll take Mr. Fantastic.
Video Gamers Podcast
Bungie's Big Reveal, Hades II Exclusivity, and Switch 2 Controller Drama - TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Yeah, Mr. Fantastic was my nickname in college. There you go.
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Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
What's such cool character design here, dude?
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Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
This is wild, dude.
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Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
See ya. Toodaloo.
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Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
It's Luna. Yeah. It's, it's Luna. Luna. Yeah. Yeah. Like an AE. Okay. But it's Luna. Yeah.
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Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Cause of how it's spelled. Yeah.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
You are the biggest loser. I quit while I was ahead. I didn't give Josh the opportunity to complete that triangle.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I will say, there's a lot of people out there that are blowing us up right now because they thought, The Minecraft movie was a good movie. So I am not in a position where I am trusting what most people say. You saying that the roguelite element is a foot counter, a step counter, just now makes me think it is a junk drawer simulator with somebody who has plantar fasciitis or something.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
That is not interesting to me. Too many steps. Too many steps. No.
Video Gamers Podcast
Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Hey, guys. Insert bad Cajun accent here. Oh, man. Now you got to do it, John. None of you guys are going to do it? Come on.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
You've got to be better than John. I mean, you've got to be better. Exactly. If something that's on your bucket list is beat a podcast host at a game, now's your opportunity.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
People know what Emma Frost is. She's a good Vanguard.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
You bailed on Psylocke for Emma Frost.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
It's what's new. It's what's new.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
No.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
That's pretty good, but I feel like you're bordering on inappropriate.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I was talking to my, I was talking to my buddy Jeremiah about this. I'm like, man, I just like, I left so sore. I got beat so bad. And he, and he was like, yeah, I'm not really good either. So I just like listen to an audio book. So like, I don't, I don't feel so bad about it. My brain is like saying, So I may be listening to a business book or something when we play this next time.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I don't believe so. I believe this is frivolous at its core. I think that you have a developer that probably is jealous of the success that this other property had and is looking to capitalize on it. It's an unfortunate part of our judiciary system where you basically can sue somebody for whatever you want. And I think this kind of thing is predatory. I think that it is...
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
there's some level of you know everything is derivative of something these days like is every first person shooter a derivative of wolfenstein you know like or doom or whatever i mean like come on guys this this stuff drives me nuts worry about making your own game good and and lay off the lawsuit
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
We'd be talking about Drug Dealer Simulator 3 or whatever.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Cajun food is some of the best on the planet, man. Give me the spices.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Yeah. There's, there's two sides to every story. So obviously I'd be here. I'd be curious to hear their side of it, but like it in these cases, unless what we're talking about is that solo dev used to be on the drug dealer simulator team and took assets from that development and made their own game. I'd be like, Oh yeah, yeah. There's clearly a claim there, but this just seems frivolous to me.
Video Gamers Podcast
Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I am excited for it. You know, my, my excitement levels kind of gone up and down. That's actually pretty high right now. I, I watched some more of the, uh, initial gameplay that was released without the review context. And, uh, I'm definitely into it at this point.
Video Gamers Podcast
Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Speaking of, we should probably not do these right before dinner. Quickly derail the food.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I am at a point, though, where I am really struggling because I'm playing Ghost of Tsushima and I haven't had a game like this where I'm like, really, really like I want to complete it. You know, I want to I want 100 percent this game, but I feel compelled to finish up. to get to South of Midnight because it's new and a lot of people are probably waiting for our opinion on it.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
So I'm really conflicted, but I, you know, right now me and Jin Sakai are just ransacking through the Mongols as quick as we can so I can start playing with big catfish.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
beats gameplay for me i i want to feel like i'm playing a movie and i'm sort of being guided through the story and obviously gameplay enhances my experience but like i want i like the story of it the look feel and story of this seem to be very much john games and uh i don't care what anyone else says i i want to play this i want to play it as blind as possible and if it sucks i'm You know what?
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I'll turn it off and Jin Sakai will be waiting for me. Or maybe Arthur Morgan, man. Honestly, this game has been making a really strong claim for me to go back to that. I was a little worried. It's a generation old. I was a little worried that it was going to show its age. Oh, no way. No, it's such a beautiful game. I'm so much more pumped for Ghost of Yotei at this point.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
But yeah, I'm feeling pretty strong about South of Midnight as a little lily pad on my leapfrog to Clare Obscura.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
And so I'll do my I'll do my own little mini deep dive. You know, I'm going to be coming off of Ghost of Tsushima, which has really rich, you know, third person action.
Video Gamers Podcast
Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
gameplay mechanics i'm loving it all the gimmicks it's all samurai gimmick stuff but i love it dude every time i walk into new fort and i do my standoff man i get freaking jacked so i'll have a lower tolerance for mediocre gameplay going into something like south of midnight but yeah i'll let you know you know if it if it's if it's worth it i'll play it if it's not i won't
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
You know, that's... Yeah, I will say... So, like, it's on Xbox Game Pass, which is, like, one of the best deals in gaming as far as I'm concerned. And it's, like... you know, very low risk. Honestly, I'm pumped for it. If I don't like it, like, it just goes back into the cloud and I find my next game that I play.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I have, I have faith, you know, I, I'm a little soft for a bungee right now because they were, you know, they were on the show and they were super awesome to talk to. But I'm confident. It's going to be a solid game. I hope that there is a single-player campaign and that this isn't an online-only sort of situation because that's definitely more my wheelhouse. But I have faith.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I think it's going to be good.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
So, um, guys, there, there is some, there is actually one other thing that I wanted to talk about because I feel like, I feel like we have kind of like a responsibility to do, and it's, it's a little sensitive. So I want to make sure that we're talking about the impact and not, sort of the political side of it, but Nintendo just discussed...
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
The fact that their pre-orders may be getting pushed back as they are assessing the impact of the tariffs that have been levied against them. Japan has a 49% tariff right now that has been proposed against any products coming in from that country. And I think that there are pretty major implications there. We already saw some price bloat that the gaming community is concerned about.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
With the Switch 2 going up to $450 and we're talking $80 or $90 a game, certainly if they prove that that's solvent, everybody else will toe that line too. And this increases a level of uncertainty by quite a bit. I'm wondering if you guys have any thoughts on that. I might.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Didn't they just have a birthday, too?
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
So I, I think that ultimately markets settle themselves out. Like the, the customer base will decide whether or not, they want to pay this kind of money. I think that what this is going to ultimately do is push games more towards like a subscription model like we saw with the fall of Blockbuster and Hollywood Video and stuff. Are you buying Blockbuster?
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Yeah, that's true. I hear you. I mean, I guess as long as they are subscription based and I have some ability to play it offline, too, because that's the majority of my gaming there. But anyway, market's correct. This will also my opinion is this is all going to settle out and it will ultimately settle out for the good of the consumer. There are games that are getting produced right now.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
South of Midnight was released at a price tag of $39.99, or you can just play it with your Game Pass. Games can be produced economically. Good, big games can be produced economically. This will sort itself out. Yeah. Yeah.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
On our last Twig, we had a little commentary about Ubisoft and the success of Assassin's Creed Shadows breaking 3 million players. In that same news release, Ubisoft committed to releasing... 10 more Assassin's Creed games in the next five years. What? That's two Assassin's Creed games per year for the next five years.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
They're not all going to be, like, big, broad, multi-console or multi-platform releases. Some are, like, there's, like, a mobile game that's being released or whatever, first-party mobile game, but... Still guys, come on, man. Fewer, fewer, better games, please.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Way to go, Johnny. What a guy.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Just a little bit. But we are catching up. His name is John. He was sensing it. There you go. He knew.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I've known a lot of truckers, and they get a kick out of it. The good ones get a kick out of it.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Firstly, I don't have a million hours. I have all of the hours. Infinite hours. Which is a lie. Let's see. Spider-Man 2. Definitely Little Nightmares 2. Super Mario Odyssey. Breath of the Wild. Or Tears of the Kingdom. Those two are interchangeable. And Halo 3. That's a good list.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Did you guys get a chance to watch this trailer? Yeah, man. And it just looks like junk drawer simulator to me or something. I don't know. All I got was just a bunch of people opening doors and drawers and stuff. I don't know. Whatever.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
It's like I got junk at home. Why do I need to look through somebody else's junk?
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
The cell shading is cool.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
we may be checking it out oh we are checking it out i i've already committed okay i didn't know if we were gonna i've already committed to our fans there's no turning back okay so we are checking it out yeah yeah so the the one thing that you guys will have to let me know that looks appealing is that it doesn't look like it's very like reflex driven it looks very much it's not at all Yeah.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
And I've been looking for a game to sort of bridge the gap between my wife's sort of like skill level and her interest level. I think she'd be interested in getting into games, but it's just like if you didn't grow up playing games for the last 20, 30 years and you don't have that reflex, it's there's like a barrier of entry.
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Blue Prince Hype, Silksong Confirmed & Rivals Season 2 – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
So it seems like something her and I could figure out how to play in tandem. You guys will have to let me know. I will be playing something else.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Yeah. Ja, ich meine, das ist einer dieser Dinge, wo wir den Switch auf eine ziemlich gute Art gekauft haben. Wir haben auf Nintendo eine ziemlich gute Art gekauft, aber es ist nur, weil Nintendo in diesem Fall die Anzahl führt. Und wie du gesagt hast, sicher genug, und wir haben darüber gesprochen, wir haben gesagt, Alter, wenn Nintendo das macht und sich damit entfernt, wird jeder anderen folgen.
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Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Ja, und hier geht's. Die Dominoes starten zu fallen und Xbox hat gesagt, Alter, ja, wir erhöhen den Preis unserer Spiele auch. Sie kosten viel Geld zu machen. Nicht jedes Spiel ist erfolgreich. Also steigen wir den Preis dieser, du weißt, sie sind Premium Spiele. Das bedeutet nicht, dass jedes Spiel in der Welt 80 Dollar sein wird. Und das ist auch nicht der Fall mit Nintendo.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Es sind die großen Spiele, die ersten Party Spiele, die Spiele, die jeder spielen möchte. Diese werden deine Premium 80 Dollar Spiele sein. Wenn es ein Indie-Titel ist oder ein kleinerer Spiel, dann schaust du wahrscheinlich nicht 80 Dollar dafür. Aber ich bin 100 Prozent mit dir, John, in dem X-Box klug ist.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Sie können nicht mit der Switch in den ersten Teilen der Titel und der Loyalität, die Nintendo hat, und einfach der Markt, den Nintendo hat, kämpfen. So you don't want to go head to head with Nintendo in that regard. So how do you how do you, you know, establish, you know, yourself against PlayStation and Nintendo? And I agree.
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Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I think Xbox is doing a masterful job at it to say, hey, dude, Game Pass is where it's at. I have had Game Pass for probably over the last two years a dozen times. Now I sign up, I play the game I want and then I cancel it because I'll go four or five months without a game and then I sign back up, I pay the $10 or I think it's $19 now for the non-ultimate one, but the PC Game Pass.
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Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I play the game and the way I look at it is I'm buying this game for 20 bucks. I get that I don't get to keep it. It's a subscription service. But if I can play this game for $20, that's cheaper than me paying $60 for it. So financially that makes sense for me. I think this is a good move for Xbox. Legitimately, I think this is how they compete.
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Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
They can't compete with PlayStation on the first-party exclusives. They're not going to. So where is their niche in the gaming market? It is through Game Pass. And we're seeing this more and more because Game Pass used to get the cool game occasionally.
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Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
And now we're seeing where it's like, dude, this game, this hot title, Claire Obscure, Doom the Dark Ages, South of Midnight, maybe not was a big title, but... It's a big hit for them on Game Pass, though. Blueprints. We're seeing where they are much more willing to put these big name titles on Game Pass now, because it is driving people to Game Pass. And even us, dude... Xbox pay us a dime.
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Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
But how often are people in our community saying, guys, I have a problem. I want a new game, but I don't get paid for two weeks. And we're like, dude, Game Pass. Sign up. You can play the game you want for a month and then just cancel your subscription if you want to. But we don't get anything out of that other than just sharing a love of games and people being able to experience them.
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Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
So just be yourself.
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Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
But it's working, man. And so you have to give them credit for that. I agree with you 100%. This is not trying to, I don't think their goal is to get $80 games sold to people. I think their goal is to say, dude, the better option here is go sign up for Game Pass. Whereas I do think Nintendo's goal is, please give us $80 for this tiny little cartridge so you can play Mario Kart.
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Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I know, just kidding. All right. And joining us, he's taken up French opera and is learning classical piano because he wants to compose an absolute banger of a boss battle soundtrack. It's John.
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Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I think Xbox is smart, man. And so the big question now is, is PlayStation going to follow suit?
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Here's the problem, and again, we don't console war. Whatever you want to play your games on, man, we're happy for you, right? But people love to try to console war things. And so it's like,
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Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I'm not trying to pit these consoles against each other, but I do think that you have three major players in a market that are all trying to compete and saying like, look, we have to compete with these people, but we don't want to go head to head with them. And I think that they are starting to find out how they can make that work. Again, Nintendo, they're the kings of.
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Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Get Grandma and Grandpa involved. Get the young kids involved. Make it easy for people to play these games on these consoles so there is no complication whatsoever and that will sell. Your first party IPs are the most iconic things in existence and you're going to lean into that. Xbox and Playstation have been kind of warring head to head over the decades.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
PlayStation, you really can't argue that they don't have a lockdown on the first party titles. God of War, GTA 6. I mean, these games are some of the most iconic games and they always are PlayStation exclusive at first. And so PlayStation's kind of locked that down. What does Xbox have?
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Well, for a long time they were trying to compete in the first party titles with things like Gears of War and Halo and stuff like that, but they just can't keep up. And so now Xbox, and you have to admit, they're the leader in the subscription model, this Xbox Game Pass. I don't do any cloud gaming, so I really can't speak to that.
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Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
But from my understanding, talking to you, John, and other people that do Xbox, Xbox makes it very easy, very clean and it's simple to do and it seems to work really, really well. So I think that they have kind of found that niche and they're going to continue to
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Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
um Leute darauf zu drücken und zu sagen, guck, wenn du diese Spiele spielen willst, musst du nur diese monatliche Abonnenten haben und du kannst dich zu deinem Herzen freuen, Mann.
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Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Ich habe das heute vor dem Aufnahmen gesagt. Ich habe es auf unserer X-Account gepostet. Ich habe legitimitär den Klare Obscure Soundtrack gehört. Wie den ganzen Tag. Den ganzen Tag. Und ich habe drei Lieder über und über gespielt. Und einer ist einer der Boss Battle Soundtracks, wo es einfach die schwerste Lieder auf dem Soundtrack ist. And it is fire, dude.
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Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Ja. Und Nintendo ist am Ende dieses Rennens, wenn es sich um ihre Online-Service und den eShop handelt. Ich habe einen Artikel gesehen, das ist nicht etwas, das wir beobachten, aber sogar Entwickler gehen zu Nintendo und sagen, Alter, du musst deinen eShop reparieren, Mann. Du bist so dumm, wenn du Spiele distribuierst und es leichter machst, Menschen diese zu kaufen.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Alright, let's move on a little bit, guys, because we got two more things to cover here quickly. We hinted at Borderlands 4. We got an 18-minute gameplay breakdown for Borderlands 4, which is the most gameplay that we have seen for this. I have said I'm not excited for Borderlands 4. I am a huge fan of Borderlands 1 and 2. 3 was fun, but kind of fell off.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
And then Tiny Tina's Wonderlands I was honestly pretty disappointed in. It just felt like a money grab. It really didn't offer anything new. It even reused all the old assets. I mean, without any changes whatsoever. So I kind of soured a little bit on Borderlands. And then, you know, Borderlands 4 gets announced and, you know, people get very excited about it.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
And then then we get this gameplay kind of breakdown. And I'm going to be honest, guys, I don't see like this isn't an evolution for me, man. And I kind of joked about it in, you know, in the intro of the show, because it's like. I don't know how long it's been since Borderlands 3. I feel like it's probably been a solid six years or so. Off the top of my head, that's just a guess. Sounds right.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
But it's like, how has this game evolved? I feel like it hasn't at all. Yes, you have to maintain that kind of cel-shaded style that is Borderlands. You gotta maintain the whole premise of the game with the guns and all that stuff. It's just like... They have a grapple hook now? Like, cool. And in the gameplay they showed the guy slide at one point. They're like, oh, you can run and slide.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
You had about two and a half minutes in. Yeah, that's exactly it. My buddy Andy, who just beat the game last night as well, I send it to him. And then I hear the music just blasting out of their office. And I'm just like, yeah! Oh, this is so great, man!
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Ich habe große Sorgen über dein Spiel an diesem Punkt.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Du kannst schlagen in drei. Aber, aber wie, wie ist es, ist es wie, aber ich kann rennen, richtig? Wie ich kann immer noch vorwärts rennen, richtig?
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Oh my goodness, guys. This is the greatest thing I've ever seen in a video game. I'm not going to rant on this now because we've already gone long. But listen, there is a rant inside of me that is brewing right now.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Save it and fester it. I'm going to fester it because it's not ready yet. But I'm just letting people know, dude, that Borderlands 4 habe ich leider sehr, sehr nicht interessiert, weil ich nichts gesehen habe, was mir gezeigt hat, dass dieses, dass dieses geliebte Franchise in jedem Fall möglich geworden ist, Alter.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Und die letzten Dinge, die du mir gezeigt hast, haben mich schon so gefordert, dass du nicht viel Arbeit in diesem Franchise machst. And if you're not putting a lot of effort into it, then why am I supposed to be excited about it at that point? So am I on an island here? What do you guys think about this?
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
There is something new. You can slide and there's a grapple hook. And I know this is the first time we've seen that in a video game. So this is mind-blowing tech. You know, but it's like that's the problem, man. I know there's new Vault Hunters and they tried to make this. This is one of those trailers that I just kept going like, really, guys, this is what you're showing me. Like, really?
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Is this the best you have to show? And they went, oh, but we're pulling back on the toilet humor, guys. And I went. Okay, so? Yeah, so? So? Like, you know, Borderlands has always had humor. Well, we went a little too far with the toilet humor in 3, so we're pulling back on that. And it's like, okay, but how is this game next gen? How is it different? How has it evolved? Well, you can slide?
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I don't care. I make no excuses for it whatsoever. Dude, that soundtrack. Now that I have beaten the game, My brain is just equating the soundtrack to certain boss fights or moments in the game now. I am here for it, man. It's incredible.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Tokyo Drift.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I love Borderlands. I've played every single Borderlands that has existed. I love playing it with friends. I've had a blast. I'm just kind of starting to sour on this, like, let's just rehash everything we've always done and just slap a new number on it and people will snatch it up, you know?
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
And so I'm starting to, you know, be the old man that's shaking my fist and going like, but I want something new, you know? And they're like, nah, dude, you're going to buy this anyway. And I'm like, you're probably right.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Ich werde das nur ein bisschen länger machen, Leute. Warten wir, bis wir näher rauskommen. Wir bekommen ein paar mehr Trailer und dann werde ich es aufbauen und es da sitzen lassen, Baby.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Ich denke, besonders mit GTA 6, die gedelayt wird, denke ich, dass das Spiel des Jahres zu Expedition 33 gegen Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 kommen wird. Was für eine Showdown. Ich meine, du kannst wirklich weder verloren, wie ich es absolut liebe. Aber, du weißt, die News ist, dass das Spiel sehr erfolgreich ist. Es hat über 3 Millionen Kopien verkauft, was unglaublich ist. Das ist unglaublich.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Glückwunsch an unsere Freunde bei Warhorse Studios. Ihr habt alle ein fantastisches Spiel zusammengebracht. Das ist das, was passiert, wenn Entwickler ein Spiel mit Leidenschaft und Liebe machen und es für Spieler machen und ihre Zeit damit nehmen. Und also Glückwunsch an euch alle. Wir sahen auch etwas, das sagte, dass zwischen Kingdom Come 1 und Kingdom Come Deliverance 2...
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
It's sold over like 10 million copies and we're a little unsure if it's 13 million because we're not really sure if it was Kingdom Come 1 that sold 10 million and then Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 sold 3 million or if that's combined with the way that they kind of worded it, it's a little iffy. But either way you look at it, What a success, man.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
And honestly, if you haven't played Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 yet, you are missing out on easily one of the best games that we're probably going to see in 2025. Legitimately, we did a deep dive on that. We all had huge praise for it. It is a game that you absolutely should play. It's incredible. So congratulations over there.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
The soundtrack alone. Look at the universe punishing Ryan for that take. Right after I said that, it popped out of my camera.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Awesome. And there might be rumors that we might try to follow up with those guys and talk to them. I believe so. Talk to them about what it's like to have your game be a huge success. We'll see about that. Um, and then this is just a very quick rumor, a, a, uh, I hate, I hate to get it out.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
It's like, well, this guy's a leaker, but that just sounds weird. And you know, this known leaker, uh, you know, it, A Valve Insider is the official title there. But this guy that knows about Valve and the goings on of the company has come out and said, hey guys, Half-Life 3 is playable end to end. Not only does the game exist, but it is playable from beginning to end.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
They're working on polishing it, but this game exists. Oh, Half-Life 3.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Yeah, I mean, I agree. The worst thing that could ever happen is Half-Life 3 actually does come out and then it's a 7 out of 10.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I just think it's crazy because we all have the exact same answer. Half-Life 3 for me as well. And I know that there's people that are gasping when we all said that because they're like, but dude, GTA 6. You don't understand me.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
But... Aber ich verstehe, was du sagst. Half-Life 3 ist das Unicorn, das die Spieler seit Jahrzehnten suchen. Und wenn dieses Spiel tatsächlich existiert und es in einem spielbaren Zustand von Anfang bis Ende ist, dann ist das viel mehr als etwas, was jeder erwartet hat. Denn manchmal bekommen wir von Half-Life 3 Gerüche, dass es existiert.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Aber wenn jemand sagt, dass dieses Spiel tatsächlich spielbar ist, ist das ein völlig anderes Level von Gerüche an diesem Punkt.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
This Valve Insider said that he expects that they will announce it officially in the summer for a possible winter release. Wow. Wow. What game exists in the world or in our imaginations that no other game would possibly be willing to go up against? It's the biggest release ever.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
No. Half-Life 3 is still bigger. GTA 6? Red Dead 3? That's what I'm saying. Take the most epic franchises that have ever existed and say which one would bow down to the others. Ja, genau.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
That would be a good question.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Half-Life is the Godfather, dude. It is the game that all other games adapted from. Guys, I agree.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Oh, man. Dang it. Ja. I mean, listen, this is a great problem to have. I just wanted to put my tinfoil hat on for a second and be like, would Rockstar actually dodge a Half-Life 3 release?
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
It's tough, man. It's tough. I need something to bridge the gap before Doom the Dark Ages comes out. And it's like, I don't know what I want to play. Obviously I'll play some Rivals here and there, but Rivals is kind of starting to wear on it just a little bit.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Ryan's camera is not working. Stop touching the cord. I'm not touching anything.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
You got punished for it.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
That's fair. So guys, we got a lot of news to cover. So let's just get into it, man. I think the big news for this week is that GTA 6 got delayed. And Ryan's hopes of, you know, making any kind of showing in our yearly draft completely went down the toilet. I concede I'm out. I'm tapping out right now. It's bad. It's bad. Dude, I will say this, Ryan.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Even if GTA 6 released this year, I'm not sure you're winning that draft, dude. Against me? Dude, I have Kingdom Cut 2. You had a pretty good team, dude. I have Expedition 33. You have two Game of the Year candidates right there. Yeah, I mean, I got banger after banger.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
It's great. So, is this surprising to you guys that GTA 6 got delayed to 2026?
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Hallo, liebe Spieler und willkommen zum Video-Gamer-Podcast. GTA 6 wurde bis 2026 gedelayt. Es ist wahrscheinlich Angst vor Expedition 33. Borderlands 4 geht in die nächste Generation. Oh, nein, nein, nein. Es sieht immer noch aus wie Borderlands. Und Xbox beinhaltet Nintendo, um tiefer in die Gamer-Pockete zu blicken.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Nun, das andere ist, wir könnten, weil sie gesagt haben, dass die Eröffnung jetzt Mai 2026 ist. Ja, du weißt, wir könnten näher zu dem kommen und sie sagen, ja, es ist noch nicht bereit, Leute, es ist noch nicht bereit, du weißt, ich meine, das ist eine Möglichkeit. Das überrascht mich nicht. Du weißt, ich war ehrlich gesagt mehr überrascht, dass sie für 2025 schießen wollten.
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Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Ich denke, dass fast jeder in der Welt dachte, dass es in 2026 eröffnen wird. Also ist das nicht ein Schock für mich überhaupt. I'm okay with it, man. I know we hate delays and things like that, but we have learned over the years to be patient as gamers. And as much as we go, man, I wanted GTA 6 this year. It's never good to rush a game out the door.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
And I think time and time and time again, we've seen that as gamers. Cyberpunk 2077 is probably the most famous example of you should not have released this game in the condition that it was in.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
You should have taken another six months or honestly a year and released the most awesome game that the world has seen, which honestly, Cyberpunk 2077 in its current state is a top five game of all time for me. You know, it was not that at release, but now it's it's honestly it's up there with the experience that it is.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
And if it had come out in that state, I think a lot more people would probably have that take. But it soured. I mean, how many people in our community went, oh, yeah, I remember I tried Cyberpunk. I've just never gone back to it. And it's like, dude, it's a completely different game now. Like it's fixed. You should play this game. And they're kind of like, yeah, well, someday I'll get to it.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
So good. But yeah, I mean, you know, I think it's like, you know, Gamers, we go, well, of course, I'm going to go back and try this. But I think there is a vast majority of people that are going to say, oh, no, all I heard was bad stuff and I'm not going to play it. And you just kind of check it off, you know, out of the brain and make room for something else.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
And it's like, but you're missing out on this. So let me ask you another question. Do you think that GTA 6 will be the greatest game ever made?
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I'll go for that.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
They'll ask Ryan.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Oh mein Gott, Mann. Ich meine, okay, all joking aside, I think the answer that most gamers would have is the expectation is, yes, GTA 6 will become the best game ever made. This is Rockstar. They made Red Dead Redemption 2, which is widely considered one of the best, if not the best video game ever made.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
You know, there's a certain level of preference that can come into play, but I don't think anybody argues that it is truly one of the best games that's available. GTA 6, same thing, dude. Like, you know, it's got to be the most mind-blowing, amazing game the gamers have ever seen, right? Like... That's the expectation. That is a hard expectation to live up to, man.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
We've got all the gaming news you need for this week, but first, some introductions are in order. I am your host, Josh, and joining me, his brief stint as a Frenchman may be over, but some images can never be unseen. It's Ryan.
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Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
John, Expedition 33, you and I love it. We have both said it's in my top 10 games of all time at this point. Legitimately, I know that people will say, well, there's some recency bias there, but dude, games don't hit like that game does. But the expectation for most people with Expedition 33 was very non-existent.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
How many people in our community were like, dude, the only reason I picked this game up is because you guys were hyping it up so much. GTA 6 does not have that leeway, man. If it's not the most incredible game that people have played in the last decade... Das wird ein Problem sein.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Ich meine, das ist nicht zu sagen, dass sie nicht Billionen und Billionen von Dollar davon machen werden, aber ich denke, dass der Erwartungsniveau für GTA 6 so astronomisch hoch ist, dass das eine harte Bar zu treffen ist. Und ich muss mich fragen, ob sie diese extra sechs Monate nehmen, um zu sagen, Leute, wir können das nicht verletzen. Wir können nicht ein paar Bugs im Spiel haben.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Wir können das nicht haben. Ja, genau.
Video Gamers Podcast
Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
So we're going to save that one for just a little bit. So the big news of the week, GTA 6 delayed. John's already like, I can't with you two.
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Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Okay, then let's do it. John, I want to hear John lead us into this next news story, John. So why don't you tell everybody about Xbox and what they're doing with their pricing?
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Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I gotta say, dude, I watched the video back today and the reveal of your outfit that you wore for our Expedition 33 Deep Dive. And you can pull it off, man. You really can. Do you like the mustache? I even showed my wife and I was like, look what Ryan did. And she was like, oh my goodness. And she's like... That's not bad. And I was just like, all right, well, good on you, man.
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But I can't explain this away, man. So I try to always, for anybody who doesn't know this, I come from a business background. I came to this podcast with a business background. And so when I hear stuff like this that just pops as being unusual, I try to see it from the business's standpoint. And I would have to imagine that, Ryan, I didn't even think about that, about the resale market.
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I would have to imagine that this came about probably because there is some sort of noticeable impact to their profit and loss statement because of the resale market, and they're trying to curb that. Now, if that is the case, that gives me a bit more forgiveness in the way that I view Nintendo for making a decision like that. But I think that you have to be transparent about the reasons why.
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If you just communicate something like that without telling the people why, your natural gut reaction, as was mine, is like, ugh.
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You're getting several new Mario adjacent titles. Yeah.
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Nintendo Direct & Switch 2 Reactions - Gaming Podcast
Yeah. Yes. But like, first of all, I agree with you, but you are absolutely correct. They are taking a page from Apple. It's not necessarily that they did it first. It's that they are making it presumably a more intuitive interface. They want everybody to be able to do everything right from their little switch. I agree.
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Yeah, this is really tough, guys. Again, I've got a lot probably more corporate empathy than maybe everybody else does. To me, this doesn't seem scummy. It just seems irresponsibly rolled out or irresponsibly communicated. I have never been, you know, like I'm a console gamer. I don't necessarily need the biggest, brightest tech.
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But I love Nintendo, but I love Nintendo and I love my Switch more for what it means than what it is specifically. I love that my wife and I can play pickup games of Mario Party when we are getting ready to go to sleep and we can knock out a couple of mini games and just have a good time.
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I love that in the Wii generation and some of the Switch generation, although they didn't pull it off as well, where the sort of purpose of the game was to, like Ryan said, get everybody in the same room and have family game night. I love those sorts of things. But they really seem to be... And the portable aspect, of course, the Switch. I love it. I love portable gaming.
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But, you know, they seem to really be... diluting those brand strengths with trying to highlight this other stuff. You know, like if you're going to be doubling down on community, include the camera. Yeah. You're going to be taking a $50 sink or whatever it costs to make this, but like you're, But it takes away the rub of like, oh, another nickel that I got to spend on this thing.
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Nintendo Direct & Switch 2 Reactions - Gaming Podcast
That's what I bought this for. I got to already buy another thing. And then reducing your battery life. Man, I was already challenged with the battery life on the Switch. It was like the main thing I used it for was traveling or playing it under my sheets if I found a good game like Little Nightmares or something. Yep.
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And then, you know, I don't know if you, Josh, I don't want to steal your thunder. Were you planning on talking more about the new From Software game, the Dustbloods?
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Yeah, exactly. That's the wrong kind of game. It's cool that they got an exclusive, but if you're going to be playing an Elden Ring or any other Soulsborne-type game, man... you want it to look as crisp and sharp as humanly possible. Like for me, as somebody who's not a PC gamer, those FromSoft games are the biggest reason to go PC that I can think of.
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You want them to be bright and sharp and like have, you know, I don't know.
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Nintendo Direct & Switch 2 Reactions - Gaming Podcast
If you're going to be raising those game prices, you better be coming with a Banger. Banger of an opening title.
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Nintendo Direct & Switch 2 Reactions - Gaming Podcast
I'm doubling down. This is corporate empathy. But so I think what they're it's they're in a. undisciplined disjointed way trying to double down on the Apple concept where yeah you go into an Apple store you're going to be paying more for the equivalent PC type features but they package it all together where they go like you buy this one Mac and
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Nintendo Direct & Switch 2 Reactions - Gaming Podcast
Or or this, you know, this one product and it comes packaged with all of this stuff and it's done in this intuitive way. And oh, how nice, how elegant. And not only that, but now you're an you're a proud Apple owner, you know, like you get to be a part of the Apple cult. Nintendo, I think, has a lot of the same brand loyalty where they could do that.
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But but in my opinion, what they should have done is I think that they were trying to make the console as cheap and approachable as possible and then have all of these other peripherals. But they go like, man, you know, like this is I have to imagine that the price point is partially justified by whatever their bottom line is.
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Nintendo Direct & Switch 2 Reactions - Gaming Podcast
I have to imagine it's an expensive business to be in and it gets more and more expensive all the time. And so they were probably going like, how do we make this initial thing as cheap as possible? And then like all of these other features, we'll just charge a little more for if people want them. But the thing is, is that those are the things that people buy the Switch for.
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I would have rather had them tack on another $100 just right out of the gate or make it $4.99 or $5.99, whatever it is, and just include all that so that you really felt like you were getting this all-included experience than this nickel-and-dimey thing, man. It just, to me, feels ill-advised.
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Billion with a B. All right. Revenue doesn't mean anything, though. I mean, Uber ran at many billions of dollars at a loss for a very long time. Most streaming services run at a loss. So revenue doesn't mean profit.
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Okay. I'm somewhat hyped, but I don't get hyped for new consoles in the same way that I used to when there were big, obvious technical advancements. You know, it took me a while to get a PS5, for instance, and I'm notoriously a console gamer. But the advancements from console to console, especially graphically, which was like the big driver for me for a long time, they're not that huge anymore.
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The leaps aren't that huge anymore. And, you know, having a C button didn't blow me away. But there's a C button. Bro. Okay.
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Y'all got any of them game keys? Josh, are you okay, man? I'm not okay, man.
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I mean, that's true. They're pretty gnarly. The thing is, is that, like, if PlayStation is any sort of barometer about how these... Consoles are going to continue to be supported. It's likely that most of these games are still going to be able to get on your Switch anyway. I will 100% get a Switch 2 at some point, but there is nothing about this release that got me excited to buy it right now.
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Yeah, my major issue with this is that Nintendo has always catered, I think, to the younger side of the audience. And I just, man, that's a hit to the shorts right there. Yeah. For sure.
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Yeah, I have two brief thoughts on this. So number one, things are worth what people are willing to pay for it. So I'm assuming that they have done some studies to come up at that price point. But I also have this feeling about Nintendo where they like really hit big with the system and then they really miss with the system. So you had Nintendo 64, big hit. GameCube, eh. You had Wii, big, big hit.
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Wii U, eh. Switch, eh. Obviously a big hit. Switch 2 remains to be seen, but man, that's not a good first look for me.
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I think, man, I would hope as primarily a Japanese-owned company that it's not just the corporate greed. I have to... I don't know. My heart really, really wants that to not be the case. But here's what I could see is that we've talked a lot about obsolescence in the console space where it's like, you know, basically everything seems to be inching towards cloud and computer at this point.
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And it's harder and harder to justify having a console when, you know, PCs just outperform it or when you don't need a console at all.
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I could see Nintendo positioning itself as sort of the boutique-like, like, cool thing to have where you're kind of like the rebel, you know, it's kind of like a status symbol to have a Switch now because, like, oh, you're still playing on this cool little console and everybody else is moving on or whatever. And being the boutique brand is expensive. You know, you have...
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A lot of challenges that you don't have when you're, you know, Nintendo obviously is a big company, but if you're doubling down on the console when everybody else is gravitating away from it, the economy of scale goes down and it becomes more expensive to operate. I mean, I'm hoping that's the case. Either way, for the consumer, it's a loss, but I don't know. I don't know, guys. I don't like it.
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My 10-year-old John playing Nintendo is hurting right now.
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Dude, so have you ever wanted to, and disclaimer, we do not support and encourage any of these actions that go on in this video game at the Video Gamers Podcast.
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I'm sure about that. So have you ever wanted to create your own meth lab? Well, you know what? In Schedule 1, you can. So if your dreams were that, then you can run your drug empire. It looks like such an interesting, neat premise on just the way these all kind of...
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run along the same... We have Repo, we have Lethal Company, we have all these types of games where you have to go do something, you have some sort of task, you have to get money, things cost money, and rinse and repeat. It's just how they execute it. And they've all been doing it pretty... In a fun way that is entertaining.
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And this one just seems to be that next level to where now you're doing... The goofier they make it, the more crazy and outlandish they make it, the better it seems to be. And this one just seems to hit all those marks. I mean, you were talking about beating Monster Wild. 414,000 players on its peak player at a 24-hour current count. That's insane, dude. That's insane.
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I'm just thinking of the smoke coming out of a switch trying to run Red Dead.
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Monster Hunter Wilds was at 283. So it's like, what, 130-ish thousand more? A normal NFL stadium is what, like 60,000, 70,000 people, if that? That's two completely full stadiums more than Monster Hunter Wilds of people playing this small little game that nobody knew about. And you say, oh, yeah, I heard about this game.
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You see this game because every single reel or YouTube short or everything is all people playing this game. It's nonstop. And it just looks like dumb, stupid, illegal fun. I was just going to say illegal fun.
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Dude, I'm going to be so rich getting tattoos and, like, buying them. Oh, man, it's going to be awesome.
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Join the empire. Ace already got it. So I'm going to play. You can, you can join our, uh, our trap house and we can go.
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I don't remember the name.
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I have not played a lot of the Metro games. I've never been like, um, I've never been a big Nintendo guy. I'll play some of the big titles. You know, I'm a, I like Zelda and, and you know, some of the other stuff. Um, and, uh, This, to me, it looked like an old PS3 game with some cool mechanic stuff. I'm like, oh, neat.
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You can control this thing with her lever, and then you can control your missiles now and direct them the way. I'm like, that's cool. That's not going to make me play this game. I'm sure people who love this IP are going to be amped up. I'm not a Metroid hater. I wouldn't say I'm a fan. I'm just like John was. I'm indifferent. It's cool. Good for them.
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Doesn't look like anything to me, you know, so I don't know. It's just one of those that it's not hitting any marks that pique my interest, but I'm sure people like it.
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It's wild, dude. It's like, in a world where doors are no longer open by your hands, use your psychic abilities coming this fall.
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Like make it, make it big and fantastical, you know, in a comedy movie, they're going to show you, you know, in the trailer, the two or three mostly funniest parts of the movie to get people to show up. Like, and that's what they do. And it's a, you got to show the hits. And if this is what's like supposed to sell this game, they're, they missed the mark, you know?
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If Nintendo listened to their fans, they'd have a good Pokemon game.
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This guy. Yeah, I know what you're doing. I know what you're doing. I will say, because I was reading it and I'm looking at this stuff, I'm like, oh, geez, I better kind of at least look a little bit into what this all means and what this stuff is. Normally, I'm just like, that one's expensive. Plug it into the rig. It's good to go, you know? Yeah. Uh, but I was looking at this stuff.
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I feel like every year we're like, man, it doesn't look like it's going to be too good. I don't know what it's going to shape up to be. And then every time it's like, whoa, where'd this come from? Oh, where'd this come from? You know, every few months.
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I mean, they've had a lot longer time, though, for Tsushima.
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how it's going to shape out. Yeah. Jeez.
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Well, real quick, I did this and it's just totally, absolutely not chat GPT at all, but I made a haiku for you, John, for your, for your, you know, first playthrough of Ghost of Tsushima. John rides through the fog. Samurai blade meets silence. Ghost in moonlit fog.
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I'm not going to lie. I didn't pre-read it. I just typed it in and just read it right there pretty quick. So you can blame that on there.
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You can't come up with anything.
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And so with this AI like frame rate generation and stuff, um, I was reading and I put it in the chat right before we started 15 of the 16 frames will be AI generated. So, you know, take that, you know, however way you want. Either that's going to kind of bog things down and make it look weird.
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A man of principles, I see.
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Why'd you have to do that to me, man? I'm sorry, Ryan.
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They're just passionate. They're just raking in money on all this old IP.
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I mean, it's for sure been over five years and with a new system to launch to get all the homies in on some Smash Bros.
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It's like buying Madden every year.
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Because you know how sometimes with AI design, like, it can make crazy stuff and things that are really kind of wild and creative and detailed. But also... not everything looks right all the time.
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You don't know how OP Donald duck is bro.
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And when you're relying that much on not just standard performance in, in generation from the hardware itself, and you're using AI to, to kind of replace that, you know, it leaves a little room for error. If you know, if the way I'm looking at it, at least. All right. All right. You failed on that explanation, Ryan. Yeah.
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It's Ryan. What should my color be? I can't be Mr. White, obviously, so make me Mr. Tan.
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So I played old, old school Doom, original Doom back in the day and some of the newer stuff, but nothing kind of in the last 10, 15 years or so. And I'm pretty excited, man. I know you've screamed from the rooftops for years about it and I haven't had a chance to get to Eternal and whatnot.
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Um, but like this game, and I know from everything else we've looked at previously, uh, I was excited before and the hype meter just keeps going up. It's one of those where every little drip they give you, you're like, yeah, more, more, I want more. And, and it just, it keeps getting you more and more excited, more and more hooked on it. And you just, you're excited and ready for it to release.
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My favorite color is light tan. You're Mr. Red, bro. Oh, yeah, there you go.
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So you can enjoy, you know, the game in all its glory. So, I'm stoked, man. Like I said, everything we see is just raising that hype meter, so I can't wait. It looks cool.
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You can't walk on a treadmill and play Doom, dude. You're going to be jumping all over. You're going to fall off. It's dangerous. That's a hazard.
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That's that's the word over-the-top Do you like you know when you're playing these shooter games and you get like that heavy weapon? But they don't come along often. You're like yeah, this is awesome. That's this whole game like that's that's the whole game You're just running around just with heavy weapons just destroying everything But in a like a fluid motion, it's dude. It's wild. I'm excited.
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how people thought about games we're gonna maybe bring up another console that made the leap to CD-ROM and actually did it the right way and kind of changed gaming going forward on that one but so the Sega CD Sega CD that is not one that was on my list that was that was not on my list either yeah So, all right, Ryan, well, what is on your list?
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People talk about Half-Life and they say, man, all you old guys and your nostalgia for Half-Life, what made it so great? What was so awesome about Half-Life? That was what made Half-Life awesome. No game had kind of done what Half-Life did. I mean, you had... Real-time physics, which was insane. If you hit a crate, that crate crumbled into a bunch of different pieces.
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You know what's funny? He's a cop now, but when he was growing up, he was called Spud because when he was born, he was the size of a little potato.
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You had gravity that actually affected everything. So if you actually chucked something, it would fall as if gravity was affecting it. You had these characters that were running around and taking cover naturally. So it was almost like that first glimpse into what AI in a game could be, where you're like, these guys are coming out, they're trying to flank you.
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And all of that was predicated on the Source engine. I mean, there's even, you know, the fact that you could hop in a vehicle at one point in the game and be like, wait, is this for real? Like, I'm going to be able to drive now? And all of that was made possible because of how advanced and ahead of its time the Source engine was. So, yeah, I think that's a great pick, man.
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Agreed. Yeah, Valve itself, I mean, as a company, is responsible for so many advancements in the gaming industry. We could probably do a Valve episode.
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Yeah, we could do a few. Valve's greatest hits. Yeah, we really could. So I got one that I'm trying to think outside the box a little bit here on this because I think there's some things that easily come to mind, but there have been a couple things that I thought back to and I went, man, This absolutely was just a massive leap for gaming that we still reap the benefits from to this day.
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Hello, fellow gamers, and welcome to the Video Gamers Podcast. Gaming has been around for decades and has advanced from the simple days of Pong and text-based games to cutting-edge graphics and cordless virtual reality. From the original Atari to PCs that would make NASA jealous, the evolution of gaming is a sight to behold.
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But I'm going to tell you what mine is right after this break.
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Oh, dang. Gotta love those lifelong nicknames, man. Right?
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I can't help myself, man. I love it. No, it's great, man.
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It's perfect. It's like my job as the host, but sometimes you just love your job, too. So it's like, gosh darn it, Josh. You and your stupid cliffhangers. They're not going away, people. I'm not stopping. It's smart, bro. Keep people listening. You can't hold me down. All right.
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So one of my biggest leaps forward, and step back in time with me a little bit, boys, because yes, as the elder statesman of this bunch, I don't know that you guys actually remember this, but back in the day, when you had an Atari, you had a joystick that went along with the Atari. And people have seen these little icons, but This thing was unwieldy.
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It was a long stick on top of a square box that had one giant red button. One button! And that was it. And so when you played video games, you had to hold the base. Your entire hand was holding the joystick. And then you would just sit there with your thumb and mash that red button over and over to do whatever it was that you were trying to do.
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Well, welcome in, everybody. We have a fantastic episode for you today. I am hyped to talk about this one. This was a fun look back at gaming.
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The issue with this is when you only have one button and you have to dedicate an entire hand to being able to move around on a screen, it really limited what you could do in a video game. Well, then along comes the Nintendo and it says, listen, we're going to change the way that people interact with their games.
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We are going to give you a controller and give you the option to hold this in your hand And now your thumb controls everything that you need to do movement-wise, which allows you to then have multiple buttons that you can use with your other hand. And I know this seems like such a simple thing, but this changed gaming moving forward.
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And if you look at the incredible DualSense controller, let's be honest, that's the pinnacle of controllers at the moment, with all the haptic feedback and stuff like that. It is still the same idea. And we mentioned the Power Glove, and as cool looking as the Power Glove was, by all accounts, it was an absolute disaster. It was not made to play video games. It was meant to look really cool.
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Still worth it. For me, one of the biggest leaps forward was the fact that we got away from the joystick, and instead of iterating on that and trying to make that better... we got the handheld controller and I think it's something that people, we take for granted, man. Like what, what a way to advance gaming to put it into your hands and allow you.
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Man, we have come a long way. But we're going to get back to something that we've been wanting to do for a little while now. And this has kind of been put off to the side. But now it's time to bring this back to the forefront. And that is our quick questions that come in from our epic supporters.
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And then we had the iterations of the shoulder buttons. You know, I think it was the, was it the PlayStation or the PS2 that gave you the analog sticks now, you know, where all of a sudden, instead of just the thumb pad, you have these analog sticks.
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So it's like, okay, well that's an advancement, but none of those were as big of an advancement as it was going from the old school joystick to an actual controller.
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Okay, so this one is quite a bit newer than my last pick, but it's something that honestly very recently kind of blew my mind. So anybody who's been listening or talking to me for any period of time knows that I'm almost exclusively a console gamer. For whatever reason, I never made the leap to PC and except for a few, like a handful of games.
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But if I'm being honest, it's probably been 20 years since I've really dedicated any gaming time to PC. It was like Diablo, Command & Conquer were like some of the last games. So mostly console. So my wife and I just moved to Arizona and we put up this big smart TV in our living room.
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And I started seeing advertisements in the hub of our Samsung TV that said, play Assassin's Creed, no console needed. Play, you know, Ghost of Tsushima. Play like new AAA titles, no console needed. And I'm like, what the heck does that even mean? And so I clicked into it one time. And there's several different services, but this was the Xbox service. And it says, pair a controller to your TV.
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And it was like, okay, well, I've got an Xbox controller. Let's, let's hook this up. And from my TV with my console, I was able to control it, go into my Xbox game pass and find any number of current, very current AAA titles that I could play on my TV with no console. And that advancement is cloud gaming. And I think it is absolutely incredible.
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We had our community gaming night, and I was playing Halo Infinite on my TV with no console. Oh, you were on your TV? On my TV. What? Just my TV with a controller, no PC stream, no 360 – or 360 –
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no xbox um it was it was incredible to me man and like i i walk on my treadmill and game quite a bit that's like one of the ways that i just stay active or whatever and i now have like this whole library of games that i can you know just test out willy-nilly Without having to lug and hook up a bunch of stuff, man. I just have a controller in my living room. It's awesome.
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It's been a minute, but we're back to doing these, so sorry for the delay, but we did get a little sidetracked with some of the cool episodes, the interviews and stuff like that that we've been doing lately. But let's kick this off. This one comes in from NightWizard63, longtime Epic supporter, awesome member of the community.
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It's funny you mention that because if you take a step back and you look at the technology for cloud gaming, this seems amazing. Like, amazing. The fact that people don't need these $2,000 PCs to play these games. You have this access to this vast library where you don't even need an Xbox at that point. Yeah.
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It's weird to me because this is one of those examples of a phenomenal idea that I'm not sure people know what to do with. Because if you look at Google Stadia, we covered Google Stadia on this show years ago. And we came out and we said, this is not going to catch on. As neat as it is, Google Stadia is not going to be successful. And sure enough, it wasn't. And it failed.
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And it's just this weird thing where... In theory, the idea that people don't have to buy these super expensive pieces of hardware John looks like he's drinking a beer every time he takes this.
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No, I'm trying to promote this. This is diet. I can say this because this is the name of it, but diet cock and bowl ginger beer. If they ever want to sponsor the animals, people, these are animal reference. I drink a toxic amount of this stuff. This is really, really, I don't drink a lot of alcohol. This is non-alcoholic, but oh my God, it's so good. It's so good.
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And listen, if you want to see what the heck we're talking about... By the way, we have video for anybody that is not aware. If you're listening on Spotify... Check it. Go to the switch to video option. And then you can see that John was indeed drinking a beer during recording. It just happened to be a ginger beer. And yes, those were animal names that he referenced.
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No calories. Oh, man. This is great. But yeah, cloud gaming is one of those things where it is a masterful piece of technology. It's weird that it hasn't been more widely adopted to me because...
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In practice, it sounds incredible, and the technology behind it to be able to stream these games directly to people in real time, because think about the, like, no gamer in the world would play these if there was lag associated with them, and yet they work pretty flawlessly, and yet at the same time, it's just not a super popular thing, man.
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Yeah, I have a feeling that there's probably some economic factors behind that. It's almost like, you know, like when Tesla was first starting to mass produce electric cars, there was a lot of suppression from the oil and just, you know, not to get political, but there was a lot of suppression because there's an economy.
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based around the status quo and I think that the same thing exists with gaming you've got people who produce consoles people who produce gaming PCs and stuff like that and if you have something like cloud gaming that could literally make an entire industry obsolete you know There's probably some factor there. That's my little tinfoil hat.
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And his question is, what is a game that you've played that was so bad that you actually gain nostalgia from it to the point where you'd never play it again because of how bad it is, but you miss it? For example, mine is Goat Simulator. It's such a bad and dumb game, but I miss it sometimes. This is a good question because we've all had those games, guys. Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, it's true. There very likely is something there too. Gamers also, I think, want that console. They want those, you know, I want to feel like this game is, I own it, that it's in my library or I have a physical copy or something like that. That's me. Cloud gaming absolutely crushes that mentality because you don't own nothing. You have a game that you can play, and that's it.
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That was the thing with Google Stadia when it shut down is all these people that went, dude, I've been paying for this. What the heck? And then all my save games, all of my progress, and I don't know how they navigated that, but I remember it not being great. Not well. Yep.
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but i think there's kind of a meritocracy to that you know like people are used to that with cloud streaming and services like netflix you know whether you like it or not a lot of those shows live and die by the sword if it if it gets ratings it stays on the air if it doesn't it's taking up bandwidth and they cut it yeah no that's a great pick man that that was another one that i did not even consider for this and is an awesome pick ryan what do you have up next
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So I, I, I kind of preface mine as the creation of online multiplayer and MMOs. Um, and I, it's funny that we both thought about that because for me, Again, I feel like this episode is just making me sound really old.
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But for me, I remember, and we talked about this the other day in our community, where your buddy's trying to get some people together to do the original Doom multiplayer for some kind of achievement. It blew my mind when I was playing Doom and a buddy was able to call in with our dial-up modems, was able to call in to my computer And we could actually link up somehow.
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This was wizardry at the time. And I could see him running around in Doom and we lost our minds. I mean, we spent the first 10 minutes just walking up to each other and back and being like, is that really you? Is that really you? And he's like, look, I'm going to jump. And then he jumped and I'd be like, how is this possible?
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And so I don't think people realize the magic that was being able to see your friends moving in a game in real time. So Doom in 1993 was absolutely insane. And I did a little bit of a deep dive to make myself feel even older. And one of the original games, nobody in the world has heard of this, is called Midi Maze.
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Where you walked through a little 3D maze and you were chasing, it was just spheres. That's all the graphics were, were some colored spheres. But you would try to shoot at the other sphere that was running away from you. And you could see your little bullet shoot out at this sphere. It's the dumbest thing in the world.
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So I've got mine. Mine, for anybody who grew up in the Sega Genesis generation. Ooh, that's me. That's me. Yep. Sega CD, awesome. When I got my Sega CD and I got it at the tail end of its life, it came packaged with a game called Sewer Shark.
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But at the time, the fact that you were hunting your buddy down was mind-blowing.
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And then you leap forward from Doom in 1993 that blew people's minds to the fact that you could see it six years later, guys. Six years. You're playing a massive multiplayer online game. You are living in these worlds. Like you said, they became a job. It became a second life. The fact that we went from that to these massive games in six years is bananas, dude.
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Are you guys hungry for an MMO? I get that in our minds, and this isn't a question of would you have time for one. In your brain, do you wish that you had an epic MMO to just get lost in? Oh, yeah.
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I do. Like, I want one so bad. I have never gotten into MMOs. I have tried.
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Good for you, John. Well, no, it's not good for me. No, I mean that.
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I don't know. Like, when World of Warcraft came out, I mean, that game... sort of has all of the necessary requisite components to be something that I would be really into. You know, it's got the social aspect, it's got the fantasy aspect, there's a humor aspect.
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It didn't have like a, you know, there's no end to the game, which I think is probably a strike against it for the way I like to play games. But yeah, something about it never really got me. I will say that if... If they're able to ever really pull off a Star Wars MMO... They did.
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...that is VR and completely immersive, you'll probably never see me again. Yeah.
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I do think it's weird. That is the next evolution, in my opinion. I think the next leap forward is going to be when VR is perfected in mainstream... It's on my list. ...and then somebody has... We'll talk about that in a minute because it's on mine as well. But when somebody can make... an actual quality MMO in VR. That's the oasis that everybody has been hoping for, and it will change the world.
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It absolutely will change the world. Yeah. So, all right. Well, that was one of mine, so I'm going to pivot. And you know what? The fact that we're on VR, let's just roll into this, man, because it sounds like we all share this one. I wrote it down as a wearable console, aka virtual reality, the Oculus Rift, and then kind of perfected by the Quest.
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tour shark oh yeah oh yeah and you'd have to like go look at youtube there's no way i could do it justice visually but what an abomination at the time i was i was happy to play it but it is by all measures a terrible game
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I get that the Rift is more powerful and we have these kind of wired, higher quality VR headsets, but the Quest made everything accessible. You don't need a supercomputer. You don't need four USB ports and cables and everything. you know, an HDMI running to the back of your head kind of thing.
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So while it may have dumbed down VR a little bit, I think it made it accessible to everybody in that case, but... Everybody remembers their first time putting on a VR headset, a modern VR headset. We're not talking about the old virtual boy here. And then just absolutely having your mind blown, man. Why is this not more mainstream?
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That's the question that it begs my brain because, John, do you have a quest? No, I don't.
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Do you have any VR headset? I had an Oculus for a while. My old company hired an actor who happened to work for Oculus, and he gave us the grand tour of the Oculus plant there in Seattle. And man, that was incredible. But no, I don't have anything right now.
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Ryan, when's the last time you actually put your Oculus on and used it?
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I have not played my Oculus in probably six months, dude. Like, honestly, like six months.
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Well, so for you two guys, what is keeping you from playing it more?
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For me, see, the setup's not, I don't think it's the setup at all because my office is big enough that it's room scale. I can walk around in my office and I don't have to worry about bumping into things. For me, it is that every game feels like it is a cartoon rendition with a gimmicky kind of mindset, right?
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It's either this is a shooter where you get to shoot at people, this is a melee game where you swing a sword, Or, you know, they try to be more advanced where it's like, hey, this is a big game like Half-Life Alyx, one of the most incredible VR experience, but I also get motion sick. So these grand games I tend to shy away from because they make me want to puke. That's me too.
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Oh, man. I've never heard of that, and now you got me curious.
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I think if I had to say what is holding it back, it is the motion sickness thing that I think that there's a lot of other reasons why people don't pick these things up. But the thing I hear from most people about why they don't do VR gaming more is the motion sickness thing.
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i don't have the motion sickness issue with with vr for me it's just that more more to what you were just saying josh that a lot of the games seem gimmicky or there's like one one um you know one control dynamic that is dominant throughout the game like beat saber but i mean that works beat saber works because it it's a rhythm game that happens to work really well but
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you know i guess i haven't played alex you know i i've heard that's a really good game um maybe i should make time for it but i for me it's insanely good it gives you the glimpse into the future man it really does you can you can borrow mine for like six months i won't use it i won't be using it deal ryan's like you can just hold on to it till i ask for it back in like seven years when it's defunct at that i'm gonna itch to play some super hot again or something
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Yeah, it's crazy because we all agree that the leap forward to VR gaming is worth mentioning. It's just in this weird spot where I think we need higher quality headsets. And along with that, with the higher frame rates and the wider field of view and the... the capability of playing games on a higher level, some of that motion sickness actually goes away.
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Like that's one reason that people get motion sick is it's kind of low quality at this point. And that's a lot harder for our brains to kind of handle there too. So yeah. All right, Ryan, did you have VR on your bingo card?
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That's funny we all agree with that, because it is mind-blowing, dude. My favorite thing to do is put people into Richie's Plank experience that have never tried VR before, because it will completely blow their minds, and it's just hilarious to watch somebody be scared to death of heights while they're standing in your living room.
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yeah i agree um i have completely lost track of whose turn it is your turn it's is it my turn really okay we segued the vr because we kind of all had all right okay i am going to mention a console guys because people are going are you guys ever gonna mention a console i know which one you're gonna choose it's on my list now do you now okay well let's see i am i am going to mention the console that
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leapt us forward from 2d gaming to 3d gaming guys it is the leap from the super nintendo right which you know that was a little bit better than the nintendo i know john's like oh wait a minute and no it's not the ps2 john uh it is the leap from the super nintendo to the nintendo 64 and Guys, and AKA the PlayStation era, because let's be honest, you know, that was the same era.
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So this was when we went from 2D gaming to 3D gaming. And the call to this, especially with the Nintendo 64, was so many of these Nintendo games. And again, yes, there are a lot of PlayStation games we can mention as well. But I think Nintendo at the time had the more iconic games in this regard. So, you know, we got the 3D Zeldas. We got the 3D Mario games.
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Super Mario 64 is one of the best games ever made. Now, people are going to go, dude, what? But back in the day, to play Mario in 3D was an incredible experience. We got Resident Evil where you had this top-down perspective where you were walking around on the screen.
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Despite Ryan's insanity, we got Goldeneye, which had an incredible campaign where you were James Bond running through 3D tunnels and on these hanging satellite things, you know, and you were shooting guys and things like that. We went from having what they call sprites in gaming, which are these kind of flat pixelated, you know, characters and things to polygons.
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And polygons are what changed gaming. So that leap is second to none. Hot take.
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Not necessarily an improvement. I miss sprites, man. As an old 2D fighting game fan, man.
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Yeah. But if you think about the biggest leap forward, right? Let's just mention PS4 to PS5, right? What's the problem there? Everybody goes, what's the difference? Like, you know, I can play in 4K versus like 1080p. Like, OK, don't get me wrong. I'm a graphics snob. I love 4K. But that's the problem that people are seeing in these newer consoles. Right.
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The Xbox Series X to the Xbox One or whatever. I can't even keep up with the Xbox.
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But the PS4 to the PS5 or even the PS3 to the PS4, right?
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Dude, the PS3 to the PS5, there's not a huge... I mean, you can still play Last of Us on PS5 and it's the same exact game and it feels like a modern game.
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Yes, exactly. But when you went from the Super Nintendo or the Sega Genesis at the time, maybe with the Sega CD even, right? Let's give it a little bit of an edge there. And you went to the Nintendo 64 and the PlayStation... This was the leap in technology. This was the mind-blowing leap that people had always wanted in video gaming.
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And that's one reason that we have nostalgia for those times, right? We always are referencing the Nintendo 64. We're always referencing the Ocarina of Time and Super Mario 64 and GoldenEye and all these things because... That was what gamers were experiencing. It was this mind-blowing, like, oh, my gosh, games will never be better, guys.
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It came out a few years before, Ryan. 95 and 97 or something like that i think i believe so yeah because i had this on my list too was specifically 2d to 3d and playstation were kind of like my uh lumped together category but yeah i remember being in maybe ninth or tenth grade or something in the in the mid 90s and uh neighbor of mine had a playstation and i went over and
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This is what I get for giving Ryan a nice intro. You know how I'm always picking on Ryan and then he's like, oh man, why are you always picking on me? I give you a nice intro finally and then you come out with saying the GoldenEye?
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watched him play resident evil for the first time. And I was like, I couldn't even comprehend it. You know, it was like bringing somebody from the stone age into modern day technology. And I was like, what is going on? Like, how is this even possible? Um, But yeah, same generation, you know?
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Yeah, it's two years difference, you're right. So, I mean, I guess we have to give credit to the PlayStation. Part of that is, and that goes along with this, John, and what you mentioned with the Sega CD, is these consoles made the leap to CD gaming. They used CD-ROMs, which I have a little bit of a conversation on for if we have time a little bit later.
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But, I mean, the leap from cartridges to CD-ROM changed gaming forever. And I think this is why, you know, we see this with the PlayStation. The Nintendo 64 used the, or am I thinking of the GameCube? I am. I'm thinking of the GameCube that used the little mini CD.
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Because the N64 was still cartridge based at that time. That's right. So you got to wonder how Nintendo packed so much into a cartridge.
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Yeah. I mean, if there's one thing they know, it's how to pack something into a little game. I mean, how does the Nintendo Switch do that? I mean, you know, I'm not the like I'm this is not a slander to Nintendo games at all. But let's let's just take Tears of the Kingdom because that's one of the most massive games available on the Switch.
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How you can fit Tears of the Kingdom into this teeny little card. It's wizardry, man. It's like dark magic somehow. It is. Nintendo's dark magic. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, that leap in consoles, I think, is incredible. Now, there is, because I know there's people out there that are screaming right now. well, what about Xbox and Halo? And dude, we all love Halo.
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And I mean, when Halo came out, yes, that was a crazy leap forward. I bought an Xbox simply to play Halo. That was an expensive game to want to experience, but it does not compare to what the PlayStation and the Nintendo 64 did for that just absolutely astronomical launch forward in gaming at the time.
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yeah for sure yeah agreed all right uh we back to you john yes oh so that that was going to be one of mine um so i'm going to take us back in the way back machine again oh uh everybody had their first console that they sort of plugged in and you know maybe played some games with their friends in the living room and stuff but who remembers taking their games on the go for the first time
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not me because i did not have a game boy game boy baby yeah portable gaming specifically the game boy and rip the game gear which was incredible for its time even though the batteries only let you play it for like 10 minutes at a time or whatever but portable gaming i think changed the industry in a fundamental way in that you're able this turned in from this turned from a
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hobby that you basically had to be, you know, rooted in your living room and stuck to something, to something you could bring with you anywhere. And it turned it into a very versatile hobby too. I mean, it's not like a deck of cards or like Magic the Gathering where you're sort of like stuck playing this same thing. I mean, the options were limitless and remain limitless.
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I think most people, there are far more mobile gamers out there just by virtue of the fact that everyone has a phone.
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everybody i wouldn't say everybody but the grand majority of people out there play some sort of game on a mobile device and that all started with the game boy for me do you do you think that my lack of having a game boy is why i have very little interest in like mobile gaming because i never had one i like i and i i get that that was unique at the time because all of my friends had one either their parents owned one their brother had one or something but they had access to a game boy and
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But I never did. And I was completely content to play my PC because unlike a lot of families, my family always had a computer. My dad was a huge computer guy, so it was just something that I grew up with. And so while my buddies are playing Tetris and Pokemon on a Game Boy, I was playing games like the Sierra games and some of these older PC titles.
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And it's like, I don't know if this is a case of like, you just don't know what you're missing or you're completely fine with what you've got. But I do wonder... Would my gaming life have been different if I had gotten into that Game Boy trend? And then would I be much more into the handhelds and the mobile gaming now? It's like the world will never know.
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But it's one of those pivotal moments where it's like I could see a movie where it's like, we've got to go back. And change Josh into a mobile gamer.
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Yeah, I don't know. I think there's some legitimacy to it. I mean, like, all of my taste and interest, like, basically stopped evolving at, like, age 15. Like, I listen to the same exact music. I'm interested in the same exact types of games, you know.
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I'm playing Mario Brothers on the bus.
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Just keep rubbing it in, guys. It's cool. It's cool.
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You're getting some hate from me right now, man. Well, yeah. I mean, like... People are entitled to opinions, but that's just wrong. Yeah, that's just a bad opinion.
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Dude, that's really crazy that you bring that up because I think as gamers, and our initial reaction kind of says it all, right? Like live service gaming and we both go like, ooh. But... But objectively, if you look at what live service gaming brought us, it brought us games that evolve. We went from the days of you bought a game, you played it, you beat it. That was it.
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Bad opinion. Goldeneye at the time was incredible. Now, I get that you can look back and say, dude, this game... You can't even aim.
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You moved on to the next game. And with live service gaming, you got games that never ended. They just kept going. And that was a new thing for gamers at the time. And I think there's a reason that the early success of this is still affecting gaming to this day. Because gamers went, I can find a game that I love. That I will never run out of.
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You know, and as like you said, it comes with a lot of negatives, but at the same time, it came with a lot of positives early on, too. So that's it. That's a good pick, man. I don't really have any more big things. I do have a couple of games that I because I try to think of, like, is there a game that just felt like it was so far ahead of its time?
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As an old guy, I'm going to say it right for a lot of people because the last time I mentioned this, I caught some flack for this. So it's a Deus Ex. But that game changed gaming. It was so far ahead of its time. This is the game that kind of catapulted the freedom of choice, consequences to your actions and the decisions you make. It's sad that that series kind of fell off, but that was one.
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And then I know this one comes with a ton of baggage with it, but to me, Cyberpunk 2077 was that leap forward that we had been hoping for in games for so long to kind of go, what's the next evolution? Now, they completely botched the release of Cyberpunk 2077, but if you play it today, I think you get that glimpse of going like, this is the future of gaming. Like this is what it could be like.
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The campaign, the multi... All right, Ryan. Well, everybody in the world knows what to think about you right now. So my game is Stardew Valley. No, I'm just kidding. When we talk about a game that is historically bad... And I don't say this just for the memes. I was there when this game came out. It is the old E.T. game for the Atari. Oh, yeah.
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Night City is incredible. The choices in that game, the graphics, the, you know, all of the different systems kind of coming into play, I think was like a glimpse forward on that too.
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Do you guys have any games that kind of stand out to you as like feeling like, I mean, Crisis was the other one that's kind of like the obvious choice where every game in the world was compared to Crisis for its like graphical ability at the time. But are there any games that jump out to you guys?
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There's one that stands out to me. It's actually a Sega Saturn game. Do you guys remember Knights at all by any chance? Is that the one where you're flying on the carpet? No, you're not on a carpet, but you do fly.
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I know which one you're talking about. Maybe it wasn't a carpet, but you do fly around, right?
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You fly around, right. We mentioned how 3D changed gaming, and we talked about a lot of Ocarina of Time and Mario 64 and things like that where you had open exploration. But that was the first game to me I was like, oh, I really have three dimensions to play with. Like, I can go everywhere with this.
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Oh, wow, yeah. The flying was so smooth, too. It really did give you that freedom of movement feeling that a lot of games just could not capture.
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I can't wait for the flack you're going to get.
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Guys, this has been a blast, man. It's really neat to look back at. I mean, cloud gaming is one that didn't even cross my mind that it's like if you look at it, it sounds like an amazing thing. VR is another one where it's like, cool, this was really neat. But now what? It's really interesting to me to see these like these jumps forward or these leaps forward.
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But then this almost like pullback because nobody's quite sure. It's like there's something there, but we're not quite sure how to make this work. kind of thing. So, um, yeah, I, I mean, I fully believe that we will, uh, in a virtual reality MMO of high caliber, I think will absolutely change the world. Like, honestly, I really do think that, uh, I'm ready for it.
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I want to, I want to live in the Oasis guys.
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So, listen, I know there's things that the listeners are going, hey, man, but what about this? You know, come tell us. Come join our Discord. It is an incredible community. We tout this all the time. We have community nights all the time. Dude, Halo Infinite Night was an absolute blast, dude.
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Oh, no. I'm still recovering, man. Oh, my God. I received the beating to end all beatings. That was brutal. That was a brutal reintroduction into online Halo for me, man.
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I love it. But it's funny because like, even on social media, there's people that are like, you guys aren't really playing all these games together and getting along. And I'm like, yes, we are, dude. People were laughing. Like, I mean, I, I, my wife is like, I heard you having so much fun. She's like, I love it when you get to play games with your friends.
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I mean, this game has actually had documentaries done on it. I remember. I mean, I legitimately remember being excited. E.T. is one of the first movies that I ever saw at a movie theater when I was a child. It's fantastic. And so when the game came out, I remember being super hyped. And that game was so bad. It was unlike anything else in the world.
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But along the way, there have been some true moments of greatness and some humongous leaps forward. Today, we're going to be breaking down some of the biggest leaps in gaming. But first, some introductions are in order. I am your host, Josh. And joining me, he thinks the Nintendo Power Glove was the pinnacle of gaming technology. And he's not wrong. It's Ryan.
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But there is this weird sort of nostalgia for it with seeing E.T. 's little weird head and neck thing dropping down into those pits and stuff like that, man. I mean, talk about an abomination of a video game. But it's weird how those can stick with you, man. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah, my cousin Roy and I put in a lot of hours on that, and I could not tell you how to play that game.
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Yeah, I don't remember the ins and outs of the gameplay other than that it was terrible, but it does kind of give you this weird nostalgia, man. I mean, I think it's good when any game stands out. That's the takeaway. Whether it's good or bad, you're going to have a memory of that. I think I'd rather hate a game than have a game that I think is just completely mid-blase-ish.
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It's like every other game in the world. It's like, why would I play this? At least with the bad games, I get memories from them.
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You know, you didn't exactly have a lot of choices back then. I think there was like a total of six different games that were in existence at the time.
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I don't know, man. Oh, maybe that was the Atari 2600 that I got. but I tell the story that my dad had a buddy that knew how to burn proms. So I had every Atari game in, in existence as a child, which I fully attribute to my gamer ADHD now too. So it started me young. So, but awesome.
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So, guys, before we get into the biggest leaps in gaming, I do have a question because, you know, this it's been busy, man. I kind of like this and it's funny because we've been chatting, but like you guys been playing anything interesting lately?
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Was it Morgal that put that game on our radar?
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Or Morgo. I think we've been saying this. But you know what? At this point, you're Morgal for everybody. Yeah, they told me they don't care.
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Oh, man. John, what about you? Well, I'm playing Dredge, which is a game that Ace, our indie co-host, turned me on to, which is interesting because I'm kind of using it as my pre-sleep kind of cozy game. Um, just to kind of like wind down for the day or whatever, even though it's like also a horror game.
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Um, and then, uh, you know, there's been a lot of talk about feudal Japan with shadows coming out and stuff. And so I went back into a backlog to rediscover or to discover a first time.
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for the first time a little samurai game called ghost of tsushima that i don't nobody ever talked about it uh it i i am holding the whole discord community accountable for not letting me know what an awesome game this is it is awesome so good i haven't had this much fun playing a game since like spider-man 2 where i'm like all i want to do is play it but man what a fun little game
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Yeah, very, very little known game. Probably flying under the radar for a lot of people.
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I heard they might be making a sequel, too.
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Yeah, I mean, maybe. We're not sure if the game did well enough. What about you, Josh?
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So it's funny because, and I absolutely love this, but I had one of our community members, People Wonder, awesome, awesome supporter of the show and friend of the podcast as well, DM me and say, hey, man, you have absolutely got to check this game out. And he sent me the Steam link for a game called As We Descend.
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And, you know, everybody knows I love these kind of roguelike card based games, but with a little bit of flair to them or something. And I actually had some free time last night. So, you know, let me check this out. and I'm digging it, man. It is this really neat, uh, roguelike based card game, but the combat is, is somewhat unique in it.
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Uh, you kind of have the city exploration thing where you can like send these envoys to different parts of the city and stuff like that. So, uh, really got its hooks in me. I'm just playing the demo, but I've, I'm three hours into this demo and this is one that is now like on my wishlist and I'm having a lot of fun with. So, Love it.
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Love it when people personally put games in front of us and say, hey, I think you guys might like this. Check this out because I never would have known about this game otherwise. And now I've got like, you know, a solid three hours into this that I'm just loving at this point, too. So. Yeah. This is why I love our community, man. It's like you start to know people.
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You start to trust people's opinions. You kind of know what people like or don't like. You know, we failed John, apparently, by not putting Ghost of Tsushima in front of him. Yeah, I'm calling that out.
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Also, I'm pretty sure this was, Ryan, one of your picks in the memory wipe games where you were like, dude, I wish I could play this again for the first time. I even busted a haiku out. You did not come up with that haiku all on your own. You had to have run this through ChatGPT or something. Ryan is not the haiku kind of guy.
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What are you talking about? Oh, see. Do you know how many syllables a haiku has to have?
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And I knew it was never going to happen.
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Yeah, there you go. Hey, you went the extra mile to ask for a haiku to be made for you.
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You got golden eye and you got haiku.
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That's it. It's over. Oh, buddy. You know, it's funny we talk about AI, but what we are about to talk about are the biggest leaps in gaming. So this is a broad category, and I kind of like the fact that we left this a little bit more open-ended, but what we are going to be diving into are the things in gaming that that we think just catapulted things forward.
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And joining us, it wouldn't surprise me if he nominates the Wii U Balance Board and the Wii Fit Ring as the true pinnacle of gaming.
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It can be a game that you think is so far ahead of its time that you're like, dude, this was a glimpse into the future of gaming. I'm sure there are probably going to be a console or two mentioned today, but it could be that leap forward in console technology, gaming tech, gaming peripherals. I mean, all these different things, like I said, we really didn't put a lot of rules on this other than
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What do you think catapulted gaming forward in some way? It could be the invention of a new genre. It really is up to you as far as that goes. But we did not talk about this. We did not share our lists with each other. We kind of all came up with our own ideas on this. And we thought, you know, this is just going to be so much fun to actually take a look at how far gaming has come.
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So, John, let's start with you, buddy, because I'm curious on this one where you're going to go with this. But let's start off with one of your takes on what you think the biggest leaps forward in gaming are.
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Well, so I kind of shared my hand a little bit, but I'll just expand on it. So when we were talking about the game that had the bad nostalgia, it was the Sega CD game. For me, Sega CD represented one of the biggest leaps forward in gaming. I believe it was one of the first CD-ROM based console. I'm technically a peripheral added onto the Genesis console.
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It may not have been the first one, but it was the first one that was really commercially available in the United States for a price point that you could get. There was Neo Geo and TurboGrafx-16. Nobody could afford the Neo Geo. For like $1,000 or whatever at the time. But Sega CD was a cool concept in that you could add it to an existing 16-bit console.
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And for me, it was like, oh my gosh, look at the graphical change. Because you were going from basically... Sonic the Hedgehog slash Streets of Rage type, you know, pixel graphics to literally full motion, you know, video. And so games that represented that, for instance, are like Sewer Shark. Like I mentioned, that was a pre-packaged game that came with it.
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I had considered it, but I think I might go Power Glove, actually. That totally slipped my mind for this episode, man. My friend Spud had one. That was the coolest thing ever. Whoa, you had a buddy that had a Power Glove? Yes, and we never were able to play a single game with it, but just the fact we had it was awesome.
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And then Ground Zero Texas, which was a Night Stalker. I don't know if anybody remembers any of these like weird, obscure Sega CD games, but it was literally just people playing full motion video captured on CD-ROM that you interacted with. And for me, it was a profound thing. And you got full dialogue with it too. You got people speaking in full sentences.
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You weren't having to read these sort of text cues anymore. And it was really cool. Ultimately, it didn't do well as a platform. There weren't a whole lot of really great games for it, but I think it was a fundamental step forward for gaming in general as an industry.
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I owned a Sega Genesis. I didn't want to have a Sega Genesis, but I was a dumb kid and bought one of those instead of an NES. That's what we had too. Yeah.
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I'm glad that I had it in hindsight because it definitely broadened my gaming perspectives while everybody else in the world was playing the Nintendo. I was like, yeah, well, what about Alex Kidd and Phantasy Star and stuff like this? And people were like, what? What are you even talking about? And I'm like, well, I got a Genesis.
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We got blood in Mortal Kombat, man. We did.
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We're leaking out gray goo when Sub-Zero uppercutted you. We got blood.
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The Genesis was for the hardcore people, brother. But it's funny because the Sega CD was known to about 13 people in the world, I feel like. I feel like this is one of those things that was one of the least known, probably shortest time span peripherals out there. And it's like the Xbox Kinect, right? The Kinect was... big for a second, but then nobody remembers the Kinect anymore.
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And I feel like it was one of those things that was like, this seems like a really good idea, but in hindsight, probably not really a good idea. But it is true. I mean, because we were able to load things off of a CD, it really did kind of change
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
You're so generous, Josh. I really appreciate it.
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
You'd be getting free Starbucks forever from me.
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
Baby mommy, please. Wow.
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
Intentional, aber ja, lachen wir mal. Also muss ich fragen, es gibt eine Vorstellung, dass es schwer ist, ein Schauspieler zu sein. Es ist extrem kompetitiv, viele, viele Szenen, viel, viel Zeit. And so you mentioned your son is now a voice actor. Do you not like your son? Is that why you have allowed him to get into this?
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Back that up. A day?
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
Like, just any given day?
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
Only five. Wow.
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
Ja, genau.
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
Ah, now, okay.
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
I thought it was all limousines and mimosas and stuff. Is that not accurate? There's definitely a couple of mimosas.
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
Yeah, thank you.
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
Are you talking about the inner world?
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
Like one of the biggest games ever.
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
It's only 8 to 12 auditions a day, Alison. Come on, step it up. Lazy.
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
It really is. Yeah. Allison, I have to ask. So like Monster Hunter is a game that's known for like crazy over the top action. It's a very action heavy game. When you are getting ready to voice or audition for something like this, it's just lots of guttural sounds and responses and stuff.
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Does voicing something like that, does knowing that you're going to voice something like that, does that amp you up? Do you end up getting more animated in the booth and stuff?
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Oh, okay.
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
Like they use in live theater, basically. Yeah.
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
Alle antworten zusammen. Ich bin die Stimme der Leute, Leute.
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Die Stimme des Publikums.
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
Do you ever get the chance to meet or actually communicate the people that are doing the other languages? Not really.
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Allison, two years for this project is really surprising. Even for a game as big in scope as something like Monster Hunter, two years is incredible. Does that come by, like, do you get presented with an initial, like, Hier ist der initiale Skript, aber du musst für die Pick-up-Line vorhanden sein. Das Spiel ist immer noch vorhanden. Wir schreiben immer noch Dinge und arbeiten auf Bugs.
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Und wir brauchen dich, um neue Dialoge zu re-recorden, weil es immer mehr kommt. Wie lange dauert es? Kannst du uns helfen, das zu verstehen?
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Oh, that's cool.
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
Would you like, yeah, they're making grilled cheese and tomato soup.
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
Gotta love Lime. Right? Yeah. Wow. Josh, I actually... So I got to tour the Oculus headquarters in Seattle probably about five years ago. And they have the same thing. Basically, what they do is they set up their office so that people don't want to leave and then therefore just stay there and work forever. You know, if you make... I mean...
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If you die unattended in your home a dog will wait a little while out of respect for you and love a cat will start eating you right away Wait, what?
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Ich weiß nicht. Ich weiß nicht.
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
I have to go back to something, Alison. Josh asked you what your favorite snack was and you said tea. That is true.
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Do you lean more sweet or salty?
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Yeah. Do you like chocolatey sweets or fruity sweets?
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Milk chocolate or dark chocolate?
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Oh, yeah, I agree. Yeah, it's chocolatey all the way, for sure. Yeah.
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Bro, hast du jemals ein weißes Schokolade, Reeses, Pfeffer, Eier gehabt?
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It is like a gift handed down from Zeus on high. It is the most miraculous little gift that the heavens have ever bestowed upon mankind. I'm serious. Get yourself a six pack, put it in the freezer for a couple hours, pop one out, take a bite, thank me later. They're amazing.
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Are you able to share what some of those might be?
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Is there a place like at the top of your list that you'd like to go? Like if you could just like snap your fingers. We'll say visit to begin with.
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I've been to Japan and Italy and Costa Rica for that matter. And I Italy, if you get the opportunity, most people start in Rome. I highly, highly recommend starting in Verona. It has most of the wonderful things that Rome does. Arguably better food and way, way, way, way less people.
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In Japan, you can't go wrong.
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
I have family there that we... We abuse our privileges way too much.
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
You know, you never know. One that I'm consciously aware of at this very moment. Yeah.
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Corporate instructional videos.
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Yeah, I bet.
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
In welcher Weise sind Video-Games z.B. hart?
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Yeah, completely iconic. I mean, several generations of kids grew up. I've fallen into a fortune in Cannes Sardines. Oh man, that's good. I have to ask, so you mentioned that you've been wanting to be an actor your entire life or you had wanted to be an actor. Was there some role that was like catalytic for you? Like, oh, that's what I want to do.
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Was there some role that you saw that got you into it?
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
The one thing is scary enough, Mom.
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
Could you juggle while you're doing it too? Like just add a little juggle in there?
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Real treat, yeah.
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
In honor of Alison Packard.
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Das ist wahr. Aber... Das kommt von der Person, die einfach nur ein Sänger in einer Band ist. Wie in allen anderen Dingen, die sie macht. Sie ist so, oh ja, ich bin ein Leitsinger in einer Band.
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Oh ja.
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
It's like Ryan's regular laugh. Allison, if you had to choose one of your characters to adopt their voice for the rest of your life, who would it be?
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
Yeah, you and a buddy like go like on a big, what do you call it, scavenger hunt across. Yeah, that sounds fun.
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
Well, that's just like daily for Josh, though.
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
Allison, this is probably the most important question, and so I may have a follow-up. Waffles or pancakes?
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Kodiak chocolate pancakes. Yes, that's like my dessert. That's what I do for dessert. Yeah, I make a big old giant, it's like a giant cookie at the end of it. Okay, so follow-up question.
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Ja, Butter ist die richtige Antwort.
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
Ja, nur generell. Ich weiß nicht. Maplesirup ist ein bisschen zu viel für mich. Für irgendeinen Grund. Ich bin noch nie ein Maplesirup-Mann.
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You know, I think...
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The fashion and the music of the 20s was amazing. But the purpose of a speakeasy is to have an illegal place to go drink alcohol. So that sucks.
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Alison, aus all den Charakteren, die du gespielt hast, wer würdest du sagen, der am längsten in einem Zombie-Apocalypse überlebt hätte?
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Was? No way. So for the listeners who can't see what's going on right now, she has a gigantic Monster Hunter weapon that she certainly stole. Look, you're safe with us. Did you take that?
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Hattest du immer noch Sensory Overload? Ich schätze, du hattest schon viele Konzerte. Hattest du immer noch Sensory Overload, wenn du zu diesen Konzerten gehst? Oder ist es gerade ein Routine?
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Auch Konzentration?
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And being an all-around awesome guy, it's John! I got a little bit of love there, man. I appreciate it. Don't oversell my talents.
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Kind of perpetually. I sleep two to three hours a night, so there's always some level of my reality that I'm navigating. How are you awake?
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Das ist das, was wir jeden Tag fragen. Echt? Ja, viel Kaffee. Echt? Oh ja, das ist es. Ja, so zwei bis drei Stunden Schlaf für Jahre jetzt. Was ist los? Leute haben alle diese Geschichte gehört. Nein, ich habe immer nicht so ein guter Schlafer gewesen. Und dann habe ich eine lange Zeit mit Mixed Martial Arts und Jiu-Jitsu gearbeitet. Und ich habe Spinal Arthritis. Oh Gott, sorry.
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Everyone has their stuff. I function pretty well, given limited sleep, but yeah, it's a hassle.
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This is all AI. This is the best AI can do for me.
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Voicing Legends: Alicyn Packard on Acting, Animation & Monster Hunter Wilds - Gaming Podcast
This is full Kardashian filter right now.
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Doom the Dark Ages is Metal as...Heck – Deep Dive | Gaming Podcast
It's on my Christmas list for sure.
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Doom the Dark Ages is Metal as...Heck – Deep Dive | Gaming Podcast
See, that's a really good question. So if we're talking like Costco sheet cake, I would be like, there's a limit to it. You know, we're talking like.
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brooklyn blackout cake or like a really good new york cheesecake or like i don't know man i'd probably eat that until i was in the hospital or something like you'd have to pump my stomach because i wouldn't be able to stop myself yeah this uh this game was really interesting so you know you know me i'm i'm a way more probably casual gamer than than either you guys here i'm very much a story driven gamer
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story drives my gaming experience. And so this didn't have that, but it definitely did have that arcade feel. Like it felt like area 51 or something where it was like, Oh my gosh, like I'm in the action. Like, Oh, but go, go, go, go. About six chapters in, I was like, this is kind of easy to,
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And I was like, it's the first time I remember getting to a game where I was like, I should up the, I never increased the difficulty. Oh, John's growing up. Oh, look at him.
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The last game I increased the difficulty on was Halo 3, I think. But I was like, maybe I should increase the difficulty on this. And then I got through probably chapter 8, 9, and I started to feel like this is kind of gratuitous. The levels all kind of look the same. The enemies all kind of look the same. There's a very distinct pattern that every single enemy has to beat it.
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I didn't feel like there was enough difference in... I'll be curious to hear your guys' take on this, but I basically used the same two weapons through the whole game. There was no point for me to change the weapons. Oh, really? Yeah, the plasma... Accelerator? The cycler. The cycler's great. Well, yeah, it was like my catch-all. And then I ended up using the...
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The pulverizer a lot because it just kind of looked cool or whatever. But I didn't need any of the other ones. I was like, this is fine. These seem to do everything. There's no reason for me to change. And so I went from chapter six going, I should up the difficulty to chapter eight, nine going, maybe I should just reduce the difficulty so I can get through this quicker.
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I ended up keeping it the same because, again, I didn't want to come to this conversation and feel like a jerk. But yeah, I don't know. This is a really good, fun popcorn movie that I probably won't remember well.
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This is actually a thing. This is so funny.
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That might be my favorite part of the whole game, man. It is so cool. Again, it captures power, man. I mean, like you feel so power. I'm like you, Ryan, like in, in games where you get to choose a class, I usually choose the tank. And like when I was growing up and thinking of myself as like a superhero or a WWF wrestler, it was ultimate warrior as a wrestler.
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It was Colossus or Juggernaut as a superhero. Like, this captured that for sure. You felt unstoppable as a Slayer, for sure.
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It is a dang good controller. I have nostalgic choices. I was a big Dreamcast fan, and there was a lot of novelty involved with that, and the virtual memory cards with the little game built into it. I don't know if you remember that, but the Dreamcast had a little Game Boy built into the memory cards.
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Yeah, see, I have a kind of different opinion on that. Like, the Pulverizer, the Skullcrusher guns that were featured prominently in the advertising and stuff, they look really cool, but, like, I actually didn't feel that any of the guns really had kind of their own personality. Oh, no, you didn't use the right guns. Bro, I'm the only person in this group who beat the game. I tried them all.
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On Super Easy. Yeah. No, not on regular. I played it on regular difficulty. We were on Nightmare, bro. Okay, fair enough. But, like, still, like, my... I'm giving you a hard time. I'm giving you a hard time. Well, like, there's... This felt... I loved Space Marine 2. By the way, I want to give that as a qualifier. But there were a lot of guns in that game that just felt the same.
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Like, there's lots of Bolter variants.
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Lots of variants of the Bolter variants that just kind of felt the same. And then on the other side of that, you have, like, your Halos, where you've got a lot of kind of the same category of gun. Like, you have your pulse rifle, and you've got some of the other things. But, like, they all feel like they've got this specific place. Yeah. And I just, I never got that from this.
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Like, the game, I'll be honest, man, like, short of the double barrel shotgun, or the super shotgun, whatever they call it, which did have a very satisfying punch to it, I kind of felt like the other guns were a little weightless to me. And I...
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Yeah, there was literally a little LCD screen, and then a a direct a d-pad and a ab button i mean it was like a teeny tiny little game boy there was like maybe two or three like actual little games that worked for it it was totally gimmicky but yeah and then i loved that old clunky first gen xbox controller too the one that was oh geez brick yeah yeah but ps5 is the correct choice
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Yeah. I did several times.
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into a into a creature and then having it stun them while it spins around and then just going point blank with the freaking super shoddy and then just being like yeah i will tell you the chain shield for sure is like that tickled like that tickled all of my happy childhood stuff like oh yeah captain america and 40k i was like I must have this thing. It's so cool. So I'm curious.
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Again, I didn't play at a higher difficulty level. I only played at normal difficulty level. But I felt like there was kind of like a basic arithmetic. Why I ended up sticking with the cycler, basically, was that you have an assortment of enemy types. And they will either have shields or armor.
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If they have an energy shield and you shoot them with a cycler, you start a chain reaction where they all blow each other up, which is great. If they have a shield, you shoot them with a cycler, and that seemed, at least from my play, to be the most efficient weapon at overheating it so that you could hit it with your shield and then break it and it broke a chain.
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For your bigger enemies, if you hit them with the chain shield first, it would stun them. And then you could just keep zapping them with the cycler and then also strafe off all of the lower end enemies without having to worry about changing your gun. And then for the bigger enemies that were armored, again, it seemed that the cycler was the most efficient at overheating their armor.
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So you go cycler, overheat. Chain Shield, which breaks their armor off, and then Chain Shield again to stun them so they can't shoot you, and then Cycler, so they die. There was, like, a very basic algorithm that about halfway through the game, I was like... Even though I was standard difficulty, like, unless the entire dynamic of all of the game...
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you know the the weapons change based on their difficulty i just was like this seems to be the like on paper the most efficient way to deal with basically everything in the game
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Yes, it is the second alteration of the Plasma Gun, the double barrel one.
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But not just because you're running out of ammo, because I feel like that's a cheesy... No, running out of ammo is actually something that doesn't happen in this game very often.
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xbox controller like for my pc if i'm playing rocket league or any other controller game oh for sure yeah all in my opinion all of the current gen controllers are great like the switch pro controller is fantastic the xbox controller is fantastic obviously the ps5 controller is fantastic you know, controllers have come a long way.
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Well, I was going to just say I agree with you. Something that Space Marine 2 did very well, I think, was it captured that grimdark. There is no retreat, man. You go forward, bro. You are put on this planet to destroy. And if you're feeling a little weak... Always charge, never bend. And I think this game did a fantastic job of that. And the shield was for sure the most engaging part of that.
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I think that the element that it added to the gameplay where you could literally rush across half the level sometimes it felt like and just smash into hordes of enemies. I loved it. It was my favorite part of the game for sure.
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Oh, my gosh, we are. I know.
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Yeah, and I don't understand the necessity. I also, when I first booted it up, I was like, this is cool. It adds some scale to the game. but I don't know why they dumbed their combat down so much. Like it, it went from this very like kinetic engaged, you know, frantic combat. Uh, what, when you're the Slayer to like, now I have like two buttons to push slow and lumbering. Yeah. But I don't know.
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It just seemed like unnecessarily simplified for some reason. I felt like,
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you could change the combat and slow it down to add some scale but not necessarily like like why does dodging have to be a different button now and like now you know i have like i went from like 10 different options to how i kill a guy to now it's literally just right trigger right trigger right trigger right bumper right trigger right trigger right trigger right bumper I don't know.
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It is for sure. And the dragon out of every...
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So it's interesting, because if you actually look at the control schematic, it's incorrect in the game. Yeah, it says left trigger, left trigger. For dodge and... Exactly. It's incorrect. So you have to be shooting, so you have to hold right trigger. Okay. Then you also have to hold left trigger to engage assault mode. Yes. And then when you get shot at, you have to hit B...
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and a direction to evade.
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So this is the second, I don't know, would you guys consider South of Midnight a AAA title? Probably not, right? No, that's indie. Okay, so this is the first AAA title, like Bethesda AAA title that I've played end-to-end cloud and a lot of it mobile, like on my backbone.
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I kept running into issues on the dragon where, I don't know if you guys remember, but there's, like, these little sandworm things in the dragon levels that, like, open up and you have to dodge the little green thing to shoot them or whatever. I ran into things multiple times, and I don't know if it's just a cloud glitch or whatever, where I would get to it and it wouldn't open.
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I wouldn't have the option to... Yeah. And it was, like, it literally broke the game a few times for me. Like, I had to, like... Figure out this janky thing where like I went into the menu and press some buttons and came out of the menu and then locked onto it. And finally it would open, but it wouldn't just open when I.
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For me, favorite part of the game was actually that first dragon level. I mean like that first, the first dragon level, I was like, Oh, this is it, man. Now we're talking. It was just so cool. I love the dragon. Uh, and, and it's, I don't know. It's the first part of the game that really felt like weight, not weighty, but it felt like important to me. I was like,
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Now we're talking, this is like reminiscent of like the Warthog level in Halo 3 and stuff like that. This is a great gaming moment. My least favorite part of the game, for sure, without a doubt, was the terrible, forgettable character design, man.
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it felt all of the character design, except for, except for basically the dragon and maybe one or two of the enemy is like, there's the big fat ranged, uh, enemy that like he does.
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That, that I thought was kind of cool. And maybe one or two of the others, but honestly, like the rest of them felt like chat GBT generated, like Viking kind of good guy and devil kind of bad guy. I mean, they looked like terrible to me. It was, you didn't like the Slayer. No, not really.
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He looked like generic big green blobby guy with spikes.
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I'm talking everything. All of the enemies, man.
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Especially the main enemy, that Prince Xan or whatever. That's terrible. Like... Bethesda's huge. It's one of those things where I'm like, how did they not have one guy on the design team? One guy to just go, guys, we could do better than that, man. I mean, we could literally copy and paste the devil from Legend, like that old Tom Cruise movie. That's a throwback mention. Yeah, well, right.
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But if you want something devil-looking, that looks good. Just take that. Just literally copy and paste that, a couple changes. Like, this looked... I have no idea how this passed what I assume are many rounds of concept art and ended up in the final game.
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This is like a solid seven and a half out of 10 for me.
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Best deal in gaming, bro.
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Bro, for $25, you get Doom, you get Oblivion, you get Expedition 33. Best deal in gaming. Anybody who's listening, Xbox, if you're listening, we will happily accept your sponsorship.
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It's a good game. I'm the lowest in my out of 10 ranking out of the three of us.
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Yeah, I loved Halo. I loved Rainbow Six. There's a lot of shooters that I really, really enjoy out there.
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Rip and tear. Rip and tear.
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Yeah. To the Lou.
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Yeah, I 100% agree. It was the exact palette cleanser is the perfect word for it. When I got done with Expedition 33, naturally, I was like, what's another game like this that I can enjoy? But the reality is I wouldn't have been able to enjoy whatever that is. I mean, Expedition 33 for me was like the perfect game and anything else would have just felt, you know, substandard.
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So this was the exact right timing for a game like this to come out.
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Okay. Oh, let me ask. Did you guys beat this? Did you guys beat the Dark Ages?
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I beat it this morning. Oh, nice.
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Josh, I would actually love to hear your comparison. Right now? Yeah, I would love to because I have some thoughts on just sort of my whole experience with this, but what your impression is on this game compared to Doom Eternal will help to inform some of my opinions.
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So, Ryan, what was your, you know, if you could just give an opening impression about how you enjoyed the game?
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It's John. As somebody who grew up as both a fan of Captain America and Warhammer 40,000, where chainswords are a very prominent piece of arsenal, I approve. I have no such questions at all. I just assume the thing works. You know, it works all right.
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Yes, that is the perfect phrase for it. So I agree with both of what you said. Certainly. Stand and fight, I hadn't heard that phrase for this, but that very, very well captures the nature of this game. I mean, you are a juggernaut. You are the definition of a tank. Ryan got it right. You are mega powerful without making the enemies feel weak. I mean, it feels like there's a real threat there.
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It's just like, man, you're Doom Slayer, and you're in there just crushing stuff. Like, you are a force of nature. And that was really cool, but... I will say, as much as I appreciated this game for being a palate cleanser because it's just a wholly different experience than Expedition 33 was, I felt like I kind of got... what this game was all about by like chapter six.
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And then I honestly like forced myself to get through the game. Cause I thought you guys would have been coming to the table, having beaten it. And I didn't want to be the one guy who did beat it. We tricked you.
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Well, I just assumed because you guys spoke so highly about it in offline communications and stuff like that. But the reason I wanted to know your impression of this, Josh, was unless this is altogether a different experience, like completely different experience from Doom Eternal... I don't think I need to play any other Doom games.
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I think that this was, for me, the definition of like a, oh, that was cool. And now I can get back to more substantial gaming experiences.
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Dude, you could summarize the story of this game on a napkin with a crayon, bro. It is. It's three words.
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I haven't played that yet, but just based on what I'm seeing, it kind of looks like it's got that vibe.
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John, did you try the demo? No. Can you give me the elevator pitch for it?
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No, it sounds novel. Honestly, anything that sounds sort of new and out of the box, I'm in for. That sounds awesome.
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compelled to finish it because the world was gorgeous the exploration was gorgeous the enemy uh the enemy types are it just stands alone i mean the world building in that game is amongst the very very best the very right up there with expedition 33 for me But the grind and just the punishing difficulty of Souls-like games is just so hard. I had a love-hate relationship with it.
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I would have to take mental health breaks from that game and walk away from it. If I beat a boss and it'd take me 20, 30 tries to beat it, I'd have to walk away from it because I would... I'd feel myself angry. Not in a productive gamer way, but actually, I would start yelling at my friends and stuff. It's not a good feeling. I want to be able to have an adventure through games.
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I'm not necessarily somebody who's in it for the biggest challenge.
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Okay, so I'll give you one that is genuine excitement because I played the first one this year and it was a in my backlog forever uh but that's ghost of yotei so oh yeah yeah man what what a fun game that first one was it was you know my backlog for a shocking amount of time but the variety of the uh of the mechanics just the same right kind of cliche mechanics that are in the game
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Made it so fun. The world is gorgeous. Picture perfect. A little bit of the facial animations kind of felt dated to me at the time that I played it. And the story was a bit one note. There was definitely like, it was like your sort of run of the mill samurai story, which was a little bothersome. But everything I've seen from part two looks just amazing. And I want to go to Japan again. Yeah.
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Yeah, I generally end up favoring the sequels for this type of game. Most games, really. It seems like they use the first one to get the bugs out, and then the second one's just an absolute crusher.
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We want to specify that dingus con self identifies as dingus con and we're not just calling him that.
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The stealth genre is one of my absolute favorite genres, too, and it's totally underserved, I think. I can't wait to play this one.
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Bro, no judgment at all. 2B was my accountant, bro.
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Well, my next one was actually going to be Ninja Turtles Tactical Takedown, but that's going to be a PC release only and I am a console loyalist. So I may have to figure something out for that. So, in the spirit of the game that I'm currently playing, which is Doom the Dark Ages, you know, arguably one of the most violent games I've played. It is just pure violence.
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I wanted to follow up with a game that probably, maybe even surpasses Doom in its level of violence. Kirby's Island Adventure?
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tales of the shire oh that's actually this is this is on my like master list this is not a game for me but i do think that this is going to be very interesting for a lot of people and i think my wife's gonna love this game dude honestly so like i play a lot of games when i'm walking on my treadmill and you have to kind of be a little selective about the type of games you play if there's like a lot of movement or certainly first person games are really really hard because you lose your balance
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So, like, tactical RPGs tend to work really well. Turn-based RPGs tend to work really well. And cozies tend to work really well. Lord of the Rings, man. I mean, like, I absolutely love Lord of the Rings. I love everything about it. This looks cheesy. And if somebody walked in on me playing this, you know, cozy game set in Middle Earth, I would probably be quite embarrassed. No, don't look!
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Yeah, but I'm probably going to be playing. I'll probably pick this up the first day. I'll be the one guy on the crew.
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Living built into the earth and eating and drinking and dancing. That's all they do.
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That's the life for me, man. Gosh, man, it looks amazing. Just not in a game.
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I'll let you know. So you never got into Animal Crossing?
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I'm so surprised that you guys are still so hot on that game, man.
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I mean... The first one was good, but it's far from the best platformer, in my opinion. It's a really good platformer. A really good Metroidvania.
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It's really good, but did you play either of the Ori games? No. Yeah, dude. The second Ori game is... Just amazing. It's like you have great games like this.
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Yes. Like good combat? Great dynamic combat.
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I might have to try Ori. Dude, Ori, yeah, the first one is really good. The second one is amazing.
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Yeah, Josh, I would say if you're going to give Ori a try, and the combat in the first one was not great. The combat in part two is spectacular. So if you're going to play, I don't think you need the story for the first one.
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Yeah. You're shockingly competitive.
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Everybody out there. Yeah. Who's listening. Like Josh is like paradoxically like the nicest, most compassionate guy and the most ruthlessly competitive guy I think I've ever met, man. And it's like a switch too, bro. You can instantly dial into that competitive mode.
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If I can't win, I don't want to play.
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So my last one, this is honestly just kind of like a comfort game for me. I don't even know that this should be on this list, but it is getting released. But it's the Gears of War Reloaded, which I've seen. It's just a remaster of the original Gears of War, but, man, I played the poop out of that game. I absolutely loved it.
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chunky you know it's probably ringing you know pretty strong for me because i'm playing doom right now and there's just something about this chunky big juggernaut guy running through and chopping people up and stuff i i uh it's been a long time since i played a gear game gears game i only recently started getting back onto my xbox playing because of game pass and cloud uh service but
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I'm eager to get back into that. I love the first one. I'm eager to get back into it.
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Is that what it was? Okay, yeah.
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man have you guys seen that trailer that big long 12 minute trailer or whatever it was i have yeah i have it dude it looks fantastic and i i am actually really hyped for this game but i feel like i can't i never played the first one i didn't either i have it i have we got it free off epic game store it's like a giveaway it's one of their free games they gave away so it's sitting in my library on epic game store
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Have you heard anything bad about it? Has anybody said that they didn't like that game?
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That is like the tub of popcorn and candy of video games, man, where you're just like, Oh, bro, we're about to have some fun right now.
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No, everybody plays him. Yeah, fantastic games, man.
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Like, you know, yeah, that seems like a really fun community night type game for us. And I will say shout out to, I believe Mobox from our discord went to PAX East and, uh, and, uh,
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actually said that it's quite a bit more evolved than we were giving it credit for when we were talking about it earlier and i i trust his opinion so oh for sure yeah i'm pretty stoked for it yeah um all right last one guys marathon I think it looks cool, man. I don't like the extraction shooter concept, but if I did, I would be really psyched for it.
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Metal Gear Solid. That'd be mine, too. It's so tempting to say Tales of the Shire, but it's probably Metal Gear for me, too.
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Too little, too late, Silksong. Oh, I don't know about that, buddy.
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He was doing it, backdating the review. Yeah. They'll never find it.
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Well, this is a big one, and this is probably going to come out of left field for you guys a bit. But probably one of the games that I'm most, I wouldn't say hyped about, but very, very curious and eager about is Donkey Kong Bonanza.
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Because Nintendo is, I have no doubt that it's going to be a really good game, but it is just such a curious choice of Nintendo to hedge the success of a brand new, but not quite super innovative game. I mean, a system on, it just seems like there's a lot riding on it. And, uh, and that, you know, it's got me really, really curious.
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Like maybe this may be, uh, you know, one of the best 3d platformers of all time and they're just sleeping on it or something. I don't know. I'm very, very curious about it. I think a lot of people would be too.
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You know, it just seems like if you were rebooting the Marvel universe, right. Who would you put out in front? Iron Man. Iron Man, Spider-Man, Wolverine. Are you going to put Cyclops out in front or Jubilee? No. I mean, it's a good character. Don't get me wrong, but that's not who you're going to hedge this reboot on. It's just such a strange decision.
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I have a high degree of what I'll call professional curiosity right now.
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I played South of Midnight, End to End, Cloud. I'm playing Doom the Dark Ages right now, Cloud. And again, we're talking a brand new game, high graphical load that I'm playing streamed right to my TV without the need of a console. And so... I am really, really curious how strong this game is going to be for Nintendo when like they are really kind of the farthest behind in the cloud arena.
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Like they are dependent on solid first party IPs to retain relevance, basically. I'm very, very curious and it'll be fun. You know, I love mobile gaming. It'll be fun one way or another, but there's like a morbid professional curiosity that has got me really hooked on it.
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I loved, I love breath of the wild and tears of the kingdom. Loved them.
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It's John. Hey, everybody. I honestly thought you were going to, like, skip over me. I was kind of sad. I would never. Oh man. I would never. Oh, I'm like the underappreciated little indie game.
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Well, it's great, but it had a similar – the little flower would tell you how to do the most dumb, basic things. And it's interesting. Nintendo, I think, is fantastic at making intuitive, easy-to-approach games. That's honestly, like, why I really like them. My wife and I can enjoy a lot of the games together. But they have –
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seem to have been, especially with their major titles, relying on this really weird exposition stuff where it's like, dude, I don't need to know how to jump. Like, everybody who's ever seen a controller before knows that...
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I wonder if there's a liability component to it, like the warning labels that come on irons that say, do not iron your clothes while on your body. I wonder if somebody filed a complaint with Nintendo saying, I didn't know how to jump or whatever. And they're like, oh, God, we got to... You got to cater to this person.
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He is extremely versatile and can certainly overcome adversity. It's a good pick. Whatever we throw at him.
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You have an interesting company, man.
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All right, John. I get to go twice? You get to go twice now. I'm building my company from the ground up. So... When I think about, I've got two very capable workers, right? Two very capable frontline workers who are dynamic and they can do a lot of stuff. So now what I really want out of a manager is I want somebody who can both lead and follow.
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Somebody who leads from the front, commands respect, but is also loyal and tactical, right? And when I think about somebody who is your perfect frontline leader, I can think of nobody better than my boy Captain America to lead this team from the front. He's going to be leading my day to day. And I think with him, Link and Luigi, I've got a solid core team there.
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No, he is my manager. He's your manager. I got an altogether different plan for my CEO.
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Because nobody picked my CEO.
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Exactly.
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Well, right, right. I could do this all day. This is the thing you guys didn't consider, is that not every worker is going to work in every culture. That's true. But Cap leading Luigi and Link makes sense. That company culture makes sense. Link and Luigi would want that kind of leader, especially given who my CEO is. You need somebody who's going to be able to take...
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somewhat difficult information and be able to still inspire the troops with it. And anyways, there's my reasoning. I mean, if you got a guy like Lester, bro, think about who's going to work for that guy.
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Yeah, that's why Iron Man's not on my team. Oh, okay. Yeah. So my next pick for my accountant is somebody... I like the way you guys were thinking with, like, GLaDOS, right? Like, in my opinion, or Cortana for that matter, in that role, you want somebody who is going to be extremely detail-oriented, is going to have basically infallible grasp of the numbers and accountants.
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and accounting, but who's also going to stand by them and who is going to defend them because honestly, companies should live and die by their financial statements. Whatever somebody's hunches about something doesn't matter. The numbers are infallible. And so I needed somebody who is going to be both disciplined and detail-oriented, but also...
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ruthlessly efficient and defensive of it and there's also other reasons but uh
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I'm going with 2B from Nier Automata.
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Man, sure. That's a win-win.
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Yeah, exactly. She is exacting. She operates with extreme precision. She is a stickler for protocol. I don't know if you guys actually played through that game, but even when there's a part of her who is questioning whether or not her loyalty is founded, she's like, I have to do it. This is my mission. This is what I do. It's almost like there wasn't a second thought.
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This is what I was programmed to do. This is what I do. I'm reliable. And I am efficient, and I produce results. And that is the kind of accountant I want on my team.
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She doesn't need to, buddy.
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She's got Neo Matrix vision, bro.
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No, see, this is the thing. Like, if somebody's questioning her numbers and you get the eyes, you know you're in trouble. She lifts up the blindfold and you get out of dodge.
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That's a great pick, man. I got to give it to you. That's great. I mean, he is like a quintessential worker too.
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Yep. Yep. That's a great pick.
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Dude, you've never played Uncharted?
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Call to action there, guys.
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Two or four. Yeah. Yeah. Pyro and Ali, man.
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Yeah, maybe once I get done laboring through what is not a midnight walk, which isn't doing it for me right now, but I feel honor bound to do it. You never know.
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So I am actually not sure how familiar you guys are with this character, but I'm willing to bet you're somewhat familiar. So,
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When I'm thinking of somebody who I want to be a CEO, I have to think about somebody who is a strategist, who makes data-driven decisions, who maintains calmness under pressure, who respects talent and competition, but also is ultimately so confident in their own capabilities that any challenge would be mowed down. Somebody who's disciplined and ruthlessly efficient.
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And my choice for CEO is Grand Admiral Thrawn. What game was he in? Lego Star Wars. Ah! It counts. It counts. I mean, it does count, but... Just to be fair, my original choice was going to be Tywin Lannister, but he actually wasn't in the Telltale games, the Game of Thrones games.
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He was in a couple of the others, but that's going to waddle around pointing up at everybody. I think he's, I think he's like a Fortnite skin too, if that counts or something, but okay.
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Why's he got to be making minimum wage, man?
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This is a terrible company.
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They will get the job done and not talk back. That's very true.
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Oh, totally.
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See, here's the thing. I think... You just misunderstood, guys.
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I think if Grand Admiral Thrawn were running the Empire, it would be a much different, better organization.
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Yes.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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That's pretty solid. If you were building a D&D character sheet, he would be lawful evil, I guess. But there's a lot of characters in fandom that fall into that lawful evil thing where I'm like, I don't know, man. I mean, they'd be... Like, I don't agree with all of their decisions, but, like, 90% of their decisions, the big lift decisions, would, like, really benefit everybody.
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Like, Tywin Lannister is one of those. Like, I don't know. We can go do a Game of Thrones episode some other time. But anyway. I read the books.
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Things that feel evil. Exactly. It's a hard choice.
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Thanks. So I have your endorsement. No, no. You want to buy stock? That team is terrible.
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Yeah, I did. I had Master Chief as an alternate for General Manager or Manager or whatever for basically the same exact reasons as Captain America. I had Yuna from Final Fantasy as a potential CEO for basically the exact opposite reason. Yeah. Just the positive side for Grand Admiral Thrawn. It's positive, selfless sort of leadership.
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I had a couple of the ones that you guys had discussed, but I also had Clank from Ratchet & Clank as an accountant. And... Gosh... Arthur Morgan would have been a good worker. I also had Lunae from Expedition 33, best game ever. I had her as a potential worker just because she's extremely versatile. Yeah, that's true.
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I am absolutely the most. I have America. I have America's butt and to be on my team. That's pretty hard to be.
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What does the winner get?
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See ya! Toodles.
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I love it. Iconic, man. Oh, my gosh.
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That is a really good pick. He can actually run a business. We're going to check this one. Not only that, but he ran a very strong business through COVID.
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I think I'm pretty safe. I think I'm pretty safe with my CEO and my accountant. I'm a little worried about my GM, but my workers I'm most worried about.
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Well, so as the most experienced businessman on this call, unlike Ryan, who wants to start building a building from the top, which makes no sense at all, I'm going to start with the foundation and start with the critical people who are actually performing. They don't matter. Yeah.
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To be fair, GLaDOS was for sure somebody I considered in a leadership role for this company.
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Yeah, she was on my list too. But when I'm thinking of somebody that I want to actually be doing the day-to-day work, what I need is somebody who's going to be capable, who's adaptable, who doesn't need to have their hand held, who's loyal and purpose-driven. And also isn't necessarily like a leader.
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You don't want people in those positions who are going to be like competing for your own leadership. So my pick for my first worker is link. Yeah.
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Yep, exactly. He's entertaining. He can snowboard. He can't answer the phones, though.
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Huh? Just nod or shake your head, buddy. That's what I want.
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And my second one, I'm so happy it happened in this order because these are the ones I'm worried about. Although it sounds like you guys didn't shoot these, at least Link. My second worker is another person who is happy to be in a supporting role. He's diligent. He is somebody who carries a lot of insecurity, but he also perseveres through that insecurity. He goes when things get tough.
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He's somebody who's often underestimated, but always reliable. And that is my buddy Luigi. Luigi Mario.
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I have to tell you guys, I feel so supremely confident in this episode. You know who else felt confident?
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As a worker. I don't want Mario. Mario's a little too headstrong. Luigi is compliant.
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He's got a crush on way too many princesses, too.
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I'm like, oh no. Cortana was my accountant too, but I knew somebody was going to take her, so I pivoted.
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I hate this game. Oh, man. You know what, though? I was actually happy to have moved on from her. I think she's a little too sentimental to be a good accountant.
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What are you talking about? She is, but I think she also changes her approach based on... She has a fondness for Master Chief, and I think that... She doesn't make the most objective decisions because of that. Like, again, yes, supreme AI, but she's got a bit too much personality to be a really good...
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It's an excellent choice. And one of my biggest game crushes of all time, too.
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It's my wheelhouse.
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I do have to bow to your guys' experience. You might have me in the experience. I hope we snake one of his, Josh. Either one of us. Oh, yeah. I've got two that I'm worried about, for sure.
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All right, Ryan. Well, you didn't nail it. Oh, I didn't? You didn't nail it. Okay. But you were close. All right. All right. But you were close. So I... Okay. It's really hard to take.
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Don't don't listen, dude. This is, this is all real right here. This is how excited I got about this game.
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Honestly. So I, it did. I will say this game did exceed my expectations. having said that my expectations weren't very high. I was excited. I did think it looked good and I, and I was ready for something to, you know, blow my socks off as, as far as a turn-based combat would go. It just, I think the world building was beautiful. Absolutely insane.
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The, the music, like you said, Josh was, was next level. The story, it draws you in, you get kind of absorbed in it and want to be part of it. Man, that turn-based combat. No matter what little extra little junk you do. And I've said it before. Junk? Yeah. How about carry you? How about carry you? Oh, cool. It's turn-based, but now I can parry. Whoop-de-doo. Or I can jump. Oh, wow. I can jump now.
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To me, it just breaks up the flow of the story. It's like having an ad in the middle of your show or your movie to me. Like, that's what it feels like. I am so sucked in, and I'm exploring, and then I have to go fight a trash mob, and it takes seven minutes, you know, to just fight this little trash mob, and I'm like, okay, whatever, and then it just breaks everything up for me.
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I know you guys are both shaking your heads, but that doesn't take away that I do think this is the best turn-based game I've ever played. By far.
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Far and away. Before this, probably Legend of Dragoon because I played that when I was a kid and I just really got sucked into that game when I was a kid. But other than that, this is far and away. I think it had, like I said, amazing story. I think the gameplay was great, but
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Um, to me, the ability to Perry or dodge or jump, like didn't, didn't change the, the chore that it was to go into a battle. If this was an action RPG where I could go and all my fights and battles were fluid and in the moment and just continuous of me running through like the area and exploration, this would be way up for up there for me on, on like just overall status of a video game.
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I'm just going to, I'm just going to, we can go ahead and end the show here. I was so excited. I knocked out my headphones. All right.
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Um, it definitely drew me and I did like because I know I often mentioned like, I like when there's like weight to a story there, there's something that that is heavy, and it brings you in. And that's what this did right away, you felt the somber nature of that society of that world. This was the part of their life.
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It almost kind of made me think of just kind of ancient times, ancient history where like war was just what it was like, and they would just go off and, and they weren't expected to come back. Like that was just the nature of it. Like you would hope and dream, but. You know, that was, that was your saying your goodbyes, you know, and that's what it felt like.
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I'm almost getting goosebumps now thinking about it. Like that's just what it seemed like. And you see the festival and the way they tried to like lift everyone's spirits with it. But man, right off the bat, they did such a good job of, of drawing you in and giving you a sense of purpose as to why you're going to go do this. Even if you'd never come back.
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Wow. Remember, we have video now. You got to come see this because it's somewhat ridiculous.
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Hey, you type in French costume on Amazon. This is what comes up, bro. One pack next day in the morning.
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kind of the difference between those two it was cool because the overworld was um it almost was akin like back to those old school rpgs where you know you you get that crazy kind of bird's eye top of view where you're way zoomed out and you're running through and you can see your objective points off in the distance in different areas that you need to go through um but you know you're you're kind of way zoomed out and you can transfer through there and they're still um
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things that you can do. There's enemies you can fight. There's items you can pick up. So it doesn't take away from any of that. But even that was beautiful. Like, as I was playing, I tried to get a lot of gameplay footage for Greg to edit for us, you know, when we do shorts and clips and everything. And I just kept finding myself stopping on cliff sides and just, like, panning across and looking.
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And I'm just like... Pan of this, pan of that. And I'm just, I was just recording nonstop because it is just such a beautiful game. The transitions are amazing. The graphic, the graphical detail, even in that bird's eye view, like off in the distance, you see the flow. It's not kind of like, you know, halfway done.
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Like they really took their time making sure they, they made that detail fluid and they added depth to that world. And every corner is going to have something. Even if it's just like a little Picos or whatever little item you need or something like that, or just another enemy, there's always something around every corner that you go around.
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That's what I did. Right when I got there, I went to some spot where I should not have been. And I remember messaging you, and I'm like... I don't think I'm supposed to be here, bro. Cause he was just like base shot. Base attack was like 1800 damage. And I was just like, blah. And I had like 400 health.
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Done. All gone. I'm like, eh, I don't think I'm supposed to be here.
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Oh, my God. I can't tell you how excited I was to do this. I'm not going to lie.
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Ace and Greg knew about this, too, by the way. I swore him to secrecy.
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Oh, I know, I know. And it's like the... Were you a parrier or were you a dodger? So I was... There is that risk-reward, and I found quickly certain enemies that I very much was like a dodge guy. And there's certain attacks that were dodge-only attacks.
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But then, like, the timing of some of them... Because all the enemies, like, they have their certain sequences, and they have their way they attack. And there is little clues and kind of tip-offs on how it's going to come at you. And there's certain ones where you can time it right. But, man, so that...
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I guess the long and the short is, for a turn-based game, I really did enjoy this combat system for what it was. I know you guys are tenfold what I enjoyed, but the ability to time these, figure out when a dodge makes sense, when a roll makes sense... Or not a roll. There's the souls part of it. The parry...
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When the parry makes sense, because of that counterattack, and then just throwing up, like, 2K, 2,800 damage on a parry, and you're like, oh, okay, maybe that was worth trying to risk that to take my 400 damage when I missed it last time, you know? So there is a lot there, and I think there is that good risk-reward, and that did entice me quite a bit with a lot of these enemies.
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I was heavily obsessed with the boss fights. It's just all the other stuff I was just not a big fan of, but... In those boss fights, this combat system was really awesome.
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yeah pairing those up was super cool now did you guys have like when you're traversing the world did because you can switch between your characters as you're like running did you guys have one that you always use loon the floating yep the little floating with that was me too dude not having to like stomp and run and just like floating through the world that's exactly what i did i was so curious because i was excited to ask you guys that so yeah i was the same way there's
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There's a few points in the game where there's some platforming elements, whether they're little challenges.
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Final French-asy? Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 – Deep Dive | Gaming Podcast
The hair is trash, though, man. The hair is so bad, dude. I know why it's bad, though.
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Final French-asy? Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 – Deep Dive | Gaming Podcast
I don't care. I don't care what you can unlock. The hair looks horrible.
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Final French-asy? Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 – Deep Dive | Gaming Podcast
Oh, brother. What works for me the best is just, I mean, it's just honestly, it's a great game. Everything they did, you can tell that there was time, thought, and careful input for every single aspect of this game. Gordon Ramsay can make the best whatever, but if it's not my flavor, it's not something I like, then I won't like it.
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Final French-asy? Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 – Deep Dive | Gaming Podcast
And that's no shame on what these developers did, especially as a 30-man crew. That's insane. So I am extremely proud of what they made and what they created. And like I said, if this was an action RPG... I would be singing a whole different tune. It's just I don't vibe with that. I tried it a million times. Just like I get seasick.
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Final French-asy? Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 – Deep Dive | Gaming Podcast
I've gone deep-sea fishing four times because I really want to deep-sea fish, but I just keep getting seasick. I'm trying to love it. I just can't. I'm trying to love these turn-based games. I just can't. And I know what I'm missing out on. I know that you guys are just gushing over it over and over. I just can't vibe with it. But I think they did an amazing job at the world.
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Final French-asy? Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 – Deep Dive | Gaming Podcast
at the flow of the game as far as the story and the structure and the base that they created. The graphics are amazing. Everything about it is just a really, really great game.
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Final French-asy? Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 – Deep Dive | Gaming Podcast
Every time I find myself intentionally avoiding combat so I don't have to deal with it, and that's not how a game should be played.
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Final French-asy? Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 – Deep Dive | Gaming Podcast
I know it's a me thing, but I will avoid it, and then I'll get to a spot where I'm like, oh, I'm too low a level, and then I'll be on those good old-fashioned save spots where I can have an enemy right there, go kill him, rest, refresh, go kill him, just charge up, power up, get my XP. Yeah, XP burner, just get them powered up, and I'm like, all right, now I can go to the next spot.
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Final French-asy? Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 – Deep Dive | Gaming Podcast
I don't want to play a game that I feel that way about. I'm bummed that that's the way it is because I would love to be as excited as you guys are, but that's just the way it played out to me. But, yeah, man, it's a really, really cool game, and I get why you guys like it. It's just, you know, that combat setting, it just doesn't do anything for me.
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Final French-asy? Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 – Deep Dive | Gaming Podcast
I'll put on my poncho while he gushes real quick.
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Final French-asy? Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 – Deep Dive | Gaming Podcast
That's a good one. That's a good point.
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Final French-asy? Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 – Deep Dive | Gaming Podcast
With the score, all the music, and then the... I mean, these are typically like that... You know when you have the movie premieres and the awards and everything? Those artsy movies are the ones that get a lot of recognition and stuff. This is that style of game that always gets that recognition.
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Final French-asy? Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 – Deep Dive | Gaming Podcast
It's not any of these kind of just shoot-em-up, kill-em-up, crazy fun games that are amazing, but they're just not as polished and...
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Final French-asy? Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 – Deep Dive | Gaming Podcast
Never.
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Final French-asy? Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 – Deep Dive | Gaming Podcast
That's really good. Yeah, I mean, I get why you guys are giving it the scores for sure. For me, it's something a little bit different just because I couldn't really get into that core of the game. I would say it's more of like an 8.3, 8.5 to me, which is a high score for a turn-based combat game for me.
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Final French-asy? Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 – Deep Dive | Gaming Podcast
If it was action RPG with the same story, with the same world, with all these abilities and the different things you could do, I'm in the nines all day. So, great, awesome game. If you like this game style, if you're a turn-based combat type of person, you will love this game and it will absolutely be one of your favorites of all time. Guaranteed.
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Final French-asy? Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 – Deep Dive | Gaming Podcast
For sure. Um, I always just have that anxious fear with any sort of turn-based combat because everything I've ever tried, no matter how good it is, no matter how critically acclaimed and all the people that love it, I never seem to vibe with it or get that love for it that people find. I feel turn-based combat a lot of times just breaks up the flow of a game. I'm so big on story.
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Final French-asy? Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 – Deep Dive | Gaming Podcast
I love action RPGs and the story, and it just continues to flow when you can just get into a fluid battle. I feel that takes away from it but i was very excited with what i saw i loved the the trailers the the gameplay the the graphics looked amazing the story looked compelling so i did have more hype than i ever would have for like any other turn-based combat if that makes any sense there
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Games Lost to Time - Gaming Podcast
You know, make more. Yeah, man, you, you missed out for sure.
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Let's do this. And then they went, oh, man.
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You forgot about it, didn't you? Yes. Dude, you got to be like Kung Fu masters.
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Games Lost to Time - Gaming Podcast
Yeah. Dude, look this up. It's going to ring a bell for a lot of people.
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Games Lost to Time - Gaming Podcast
I should have done this in the first place.
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Games Lost to Time - Gaming Podcast
Can somebody not bring this into modern times and turn this into... We're getting Mario games, Zelda games, Donkey Kong games left and right. Give us a brand new Mega Man.
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But then if somebody did beat it, you were so happy. Like you were cheering for your buddy, but then you were also like, dang it. I wanted to be the one.
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Games Lost to Time - Gaming Podcast
And it was kind of like, you know, that guy got lifted up and it's like, yeah.
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Yeah, Stalker 2 had a little bit of that old school vibe.
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Games Lost to Time - Gaming Podcast
Like you felt almost like, and then sure enough, command execute.
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Games Lost to Time - Gaming Podcast
You're like, yes. Yeah. And then you got to play games during library or whatever it was.
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So like with that man, like if I work out forever, I get like a four pack maybe. And he's just rocking the eight pack.
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Oh, yeah. I'm ready. Let's get into it, Ryan.
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He had Perfect Dark at the top of his list until I reminded him the remake is coming. And he hasn't stopped smiling since. It's Ryan.
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But this is a good question, right? Because why isn't EA learning from this? Like Battlefield, right?
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As much as we trash it, it's like, I know. I'm an idiot, man.
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But it's like, they weren't that bad, man. It's not like they killed the franchise. Yeah. So, like, what the heck?
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Okay, but these are games that are lost to time, not games that are soon to have an awesome-looking remake.
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Doom: The Dark Ages - First Impressions | Gaming Podcast
So, Ryan, initial impressions of Doom so far?
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Doom: The Dark Ages - First Impressions | Gaming Podcast
Okay, yeah, I'm on the basic difficulty right now. I gotta tell you, the only thing that was a little unexpected is some of the character design feels kind of uninspired to me, man. The NPC good guys seem like generic space vikings, and then the prince, whatever the evil... What looks like the antagonist is the prince, like, devil guy just looks kind of basic to me, man.
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Doom: The Dark Ages - First Impressions | Gaming Podcast
Do you have any thoughts on that?
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Yeah, it looks like there is a... audible commercial or something recently where like they were like doing something where it's like vaguely supposed to look like a dune movie or something you're like oh there's like generic space guys like that's what that looked like to me but aside from that
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Doom: The Dark Ages - First Impressions | Gaming Podcast
Man, I don't know that I've played a game that made you feel so absolutely powerful and unstoppable like this. You're like a juggernaut, bro.
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Doom: The Dark Ages - First Impressions | Gaming Podcast
That's a really good way to put it. I didn't play Doom Eternal. And so just based on the character design and stuff, my mental frame of reference was something like Halo. And I go, OK, so I'm going into this like halo thinking that, you know, you're you're strong. You're obviously like the strong, willful protagonist, but you're like not going to be a bullet sponge, man.
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Doom: The Dark Ages - First Impressions | Gaming Podcast
You can't just go out there and soak everything up. And so you're going to need to like hide behind cover and be tactical. This game does a really good job of, like you said, making you feel like an absolute juggernaut, but with a tactical end that is completely different than like a Halo. You know, it's very, very in your face, very, very violent. It nails that part for sure.
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Doom: The Dark Ages - First Impressions | Gaming Podcast
Yeah, it definitely feels like pure violence, man.
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Doom: The Dark Ages - First Impressions | Gaming Podcast
Yeah, I agree. I also like that they sort of. queued up some of the different attacks to have specific advantages against specific enemy types and that kind of thing. So that if you're low on ammo, you kill a guy like this, and this is how you'll get some more ammo. If you're low on health, you kill a guy like this. And that's cool.
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Doom: The Dark Ages - First Impressions | Gaming Podcast
I, and yeah, some of the, some of the enemy types have been actually pretty cool looking too. You know, like you're just like, oh my gosh, look at this. And then you recognize again, how powerful you are. It's so cool.
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Doom: The Dark Ages - First Impressions | Gaming Podcast
That's a really good comparison. That's what this felt like is like an arcade game to me.
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Doom: The Dark Ages - First Impressions | Gaming Podcast
Yeah, the game is extremely kinetic for sure. It's such a hard pivot for me going from something that is so narratively driven like Expedition 33 to this where it's like, okay, so you're the Doom Slayer and just go kill stuff. And I'm like, whoa, where's the story? Don't worry about the story. Just go kill stuff. Yeah, just you see it, go kill. Oh, yeah.
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Doom: The Dark Ages - First Impressions | Gaming Podcast
By the way, right away, there's like 100 ways you can kill things.
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Doom: The Dark Ages - First Impressions | Gaming Podcast
Oh my gosh. No contest. Yeah, right? That's pretty funny. I would have been laughed at off. What do you think about how far into the game are you so far?
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
Crystal Method, Prodigy.
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
The Fat of the Land is... My buddy CJ is probably listening to this, by the way, but The Fat of the Land is probably like a top three album of all time, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
Okay, so that actually segues really into the core question that I wanted to ask quite nicely. is that when I'm... Again, Little Nightmares, the first one, really good game. The second one, in my opinion, masterpiece. It is absolutely one of my favorite games, especially from the narrative component. And I think the best thing about the game is the audio design.
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
And I can't imagine... developing that game without knowing what that game sounded like first like there's some like uh josh and i were just talking about this offline but the uh the level where you are being stalked by the uh the the flickering tv man um and and sort of the the sound design is synced to the footsteps of of him stalking you it's like i've i've
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
goosebumps right now just talking about it it's it's brilliant but i can't imagine you mentioned that the sound design sort of comes much later in the development of the game like i can't imagine developing that without the sound design in mind first and you know you mentioned you had no uh you had no interest really in the the composition that the actual music part of it was more of the uh the the
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
sound design, like the atmosphere probably that you're interested. But the theme song for Little Nightmares for me is so iconic that's surprising to me. So I was hoping you could speak to how that works out. Like, how do you go about layering on a soundscape for a game like this? How did they even develop it without the soundscape in mind first?
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
Yeah, absolutely, Josh. I mean, like the soundtrack for these games is, If you listen to it with zero context, zero visual context, you will still get the same emotional response.
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
Oh, wow. No. If I'm in a mood where I feel like I need to be writing or something... you know, depressing or scary, or I need to be in that head space for whatever reason, I put this on and on its own merit, you kind of get the, you know, like the, in a good way. Yeah.
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
It just fits into the general sort of suspension of disbelief. It's just a part of this experience that you're not necessarily picking out for its own... Yeah.
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
That used to be like the question that you would ask other people to know if they were cool.
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
thinking about it that way. Yeah, and you don't necessarily have to be good at any of the instruments. No, no, no.
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
I'm curious, why didn't the trumpet make the cut for Little Nightmares soundtrack?
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
Did you listen to industrial music like Skinny Puppy or Ogre or anything like that?
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
So it's also super energetic music. Like Josh is our resident energizer bunny. So it's a perfect theme song for years. Yeah.
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
So yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Well, what I was going to say is, is that from a layman's perspective, again, like I, I was in a band for a while, but I'm like not a musician at all. I was barely competent, uh, And that's putting it generously. But it's cool. Like when I'm listening to your music, when I'm listening to your sound design, I go, guy's a master.
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
Like this guy is like next level genius. Like you should never explore music because there are Tobias's in the world that you could never catch up to. And it's just so honest and refreshing to hear somebody who I'm like, you know, I like, I covet your talent for you to go like, yeah, I kind of had to find music that I felt like I could like replicate or whatever.
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
I'm like, oh my gosh, you know, that's just crazy to me that like, you know, it's a very humble thing for you to say.
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
Yeah, that's a really inspiring story, honestly. Somebody who's probably been a musician his entire life has this sort of self-renaissance at 60, you know, and completely reinvents himself.
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
So were you involved or consulted in the Little Nightmares handoff to Bandai at all?
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
So I am a person who, like, indie games tend to be more my speed. I tend to...
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
find that the the narrative and the art style is is a bit more to my liking and and i have like a few it's almost like you know again like growing up as like a goth kid it's like once something hit mainstream it got it's like ah this can't be cool anymore yeah i know what you mean yeah exactly do you have any thoughts on uh you know a big studio sort of taking the reins on uh on an indie project like this that's a good question
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
I hope they do really well but at the same time
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
Well, sure, but I think that the budget can be a double-edged sword. So like the Marvel movies, for instance, just because they have the money to make these movies reach large audiences doesn't necessarily mean that's the right thing to do. That's true.
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
That's a good question.
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
More of like an action game or something?
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
So I'm just going to plug you here. I would also love to hear your music in a bigger, more action-oriented game. So if anybody from From Software happens to be listening to this, I think Tobias and perhaps an Elden Ring or Dark Souls collab would sound very nice to me.
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
All right. Tobias, I have three goofy questions for you. Okay. You're Swedish, correct? Yeah. How often do you shop at Ikea?
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
What is your favorite Swedish vegetarian food?
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
Josh, did you ever see Let the Right One In by any chance? Yeah.
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
Oh, my. It's slants horror. I wouldn't say it's a straight-up horror movie, but God, is that a good movie.
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
Of course. Honestly, this is a selfish episode for me. This has been such an honor. My gosh. I'm still like, I just have like butterflies in my stomach from being able to talk to you. But we wanted to give you, where's the place where people can follow your work or connect with you, social media, any projects that you got working on?
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
Yeah, it's like video game tapas.
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
Tobias, so where do you lie on the Souls-like difficulty level? Do you... Do you like that sort of grinding difficulty or do you play more casually?
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
It's John. And yeah, advance warning for anybody who's been on the Discord. You guys have heard me talking about this for a very long time. I would say if you were to say series, Little Nightmares is my favorite series and certainly my favorite soundtrack. So I'm absolutely stoked to be talking to our guest today.
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
Right, because there was existing infrastructure already. You weren't learning everything from the ground up. There was some base.
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
Oh yeah, great games.
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
Luckily, it worked out. Yeah.
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
Tobias, I have a couple of questions for you. First of all, I want to preface this by saying we've had the opportunity to talk to a lot of amazing people in this industry, including really big studios where probably 20 years ago, I would have been absolutely floored by the opportunity to talk to them. This interview with you is the closest that I've ever been to Starstruck. Yeah.
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
i i i can't tell you how much i love and appreciate the sound design for these games oh thank you so i want to ask you a couple of questions here of course so you mentioned that you were teaching sound design uh do you have a you mentioned you played uh trumpet earlier did did you come from like a musical background like have you been playing music more or less most of your life
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Composing Fear – Tobias Lilja on Little Nightmares & Game Audio – Gaming Podcast
Yeah, a couple favorite artists.
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Mental Health and Gaming w/guest Dr. Bean of Geek Therapeutics - Gaming Podcast
Something that Jamie Madigan talks about in some of his material and he talked about on our show as an advantage to gaming, specifically in social settings, is it provides sort of the social scaffolding required to make connections, which is kind of why online gaming, there's a lot of positive to it. You can create friendships by way of...
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Mental Health and Gaming w/guest Dr. Bean of Geek Therapeutics - Gaming Podcast
gaming that you might not have been able to otherwise because you already have something in common. And I can only imagine that that sort of social scaffolding concept extends to the home as well.
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Mental Health and Gaming w/guest Dr. Bean of Geek Therapeutics - Gaming Podcast
35.
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Mental Health and Gaming w/guest Dr. Bean of Geek Therapeutics - Gaming Podcast
Yeah, I would agree with that. So something that I'm very curious about, being in my role here with the Video Gamers podcast, I mean, I interact with gamers like all day, every day, basically. We've got a very active Discord of about a thousand members and many of the members of that community are quite active. You know, we have regular engaging conversations with people all the time.
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Mental Health and Gaming w/guest Dr. Bean of Geek Therapeutics - Gaming Podcast
And then obviously outside of this in my personal life, I'm a geek of all flavors. I'm really into Star Wars and Warhammer and any flavor of nerdity that is out there. And I don't know, maybe I'm off base in this presumption, but it seems like there is a pretty high...
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Mental Health and Gaming w/guest Dr. Bean of Geek Therapeutics - Gaming Podcast
coincidence of people who are into kind of nerd slash otaku fandom and anxiety depression are do you notice that as well is that is that uh do you find that there is a higher incidence of sort of you know emotional distress in this community than in others
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Mental Health and Gaming w/guest Dr. Bean of Geek Therapeutics - Gaming Podcast
Hello, fellow gamers, and welcome back to the Video Gamers Podcast. Video games are one of the most immersive forms of entertainment available. For millions of people around the world, they serve as entertainment, a hobby, or an escape.
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Mental Health and Gaming w/guest Dr. Bean of Geek Therapeutics - Gaming Podcast
Broadly, not gamers, but broadly.
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Mental Health and Gaming w/guest Dr. Bean of Geek Therapeutics - Gaming Podcast
Yeah, that makes sense. In my own, you know, I love gaming for the sake of gaming. Like right now, I am absolutely hooked on this game called Claire Obscure Expedition 33. It is amazing. And that is a game that I could dive into with pure joy in my heart all day, every day. It's honestly like a distraction to like not be playing it right now. Like I'm just so absolutely immersed in it.
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Mental Health and Gaming w/guest Dr. Bean of Geek Therapeutics - Gaming Podcast
But I'll be honest, there have been other periods in my life And I'm so thankful that I've got a very strong control over how I manage this stuff now. But there have been periods in my life where I relied on gaming as a distraction from the stuff that was going on in my head.
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Mental Health and Gaming w/guest Dr. Bean of Geek Therapeutics - Gaming Podcast
Is it possible that I could have been engaged in other activities that might have had a greater therapeutic effect than gaming? Or do you find that when people are in periods of acute stress that, hey, man, whatever gets you through it, like get through it and we can figure out kind of the treatment later? Do you have any opinions on that?
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Mental Health and Gaming w/guest Dr. Bean of Geek Therapeutics - Gaming Podcast
Yeah, it's a bit bigger than the movie and the music industry combined at this point.
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Mental Health and Gaming w/guest Dr. Bean of Geek Therapeutics - Gaming Podcast
Well, I agree. And I'll tell you, I would love your professional opinion on this because this came sort of like unguided for me. But I remember it was probably about 10, 11 years ago. I was going through a very hard emotional time. I was going through, this is probably a bit personal here, but I was going through a divorce and had lost a job at the same time. And it was like soul crushing to me.
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Mental Health and Gaming w/guest Dr. Bean of Geek Therapeutics - Gaming Podcast
And I'm already predisposed to anxiousness. And I remember kind of being at a precipice or a fork in the road where I was like, I am feeling rock bottom right now. And I think that there's probably two things I can do with this. I can either take this to a terrible end or I can figure out what to do with it. And I have been a fan of, again, nerd culture my entire life. My...
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Mental Health and Gaming w/guest Dr. Bean of Geek Therapeutics - Gaming Podcast
Fandom started probably with comic books, and I've been a Captain America fan, if you can't tell. I've been a Captain America fan.
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Mental Health and Gaming w/guest Dr. Bean of Geek Therapeutics - Gaming Podcast
Yes.
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Mental Health and Gaming w/guest Dr. Bean of Geek Therapeutics - Gaming Podcast
So I'm sure they're out there, by the way.
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Mental Health and Gaming w/guest Dr. Bean of Geek Therapeutics - Gaming Podcast
I remember kind of reframing my anxiousness in a way where I go like, okay, John, the only difference between somebody who is a hero and who is not a hero is that heroes do hero stuff. And there's a great line in the Batman, the Chris Nolan Batman franchise where they talk about, like, it's not who you think you are or what you think about yourself deep down inside.
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Mental Health and Gaming w/guest Dr. Bean of Geek Therapeutics - Gaming Podcast
It's the things you do that define you. And I remember reading somewhere on the internet or hearing somewhere that, like, Physiologically, there's no distinction between anxiousness and excitement. They're sort of the same chemical expression or whatever. And I go like, okay, John, so you're going to, from now on, interpret this anxiety as excitement.
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Mental Health and Gaming w/guest Dr. Bean of Geek Therapeutics - Gaming Podcast
And anytime you start to feel this way, rather than succumbing to your fear, you're going to take this as an opportunity to be brave. And when I thought about this through my Captain America lens as somebody who, you know, he's not a real person, but he's real enough to me.
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As somebody who I idolize and who I aspire to be, I go, every time I take the opportunity to be brave, I can become more Captain America-like. And the importance of... Feeling brave outweighs the importance of avoiding whatever I am fearful of. And that was a very important reframing for me. From your perspective, is that something that Geek Therapeutics is trying to actively promote?
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Mental Health and Gaming w/guest Dr. Bean of Geek Therapeutics - Gaming Podcast
Or can you tell me a bit more about how you are integrating gaming culture and practices into people's therapies?
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And that is the moral, his morals are his superpower. That's like, yes, he happened. He happened to get super soldier serum, which if you know where to get some, sign me up, but, but his morals are his superpower. Absolutely.
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Therapy and have been in, you know, I've had other forms of treatment as well to kind of get me through some tough times, but I feel very fortunate that I was able to kind of like identify something that was able to work for me and has worked for me sustainably for decades. a long time and frankly created habits that have led to a great degree of both professional and personal success for myself.
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What do you do to help people who might be struggling with that? Like it was a choice for me to be able to go like, which way do I go? But for a lot of people, they might have a hard time identifying that choice. What are you doing to guide people towards that?
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So that's a great point with regards to, you know, channeling it into what do you enjoy doing? But I think that there's a large chunk of the population out there that would argue that
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Well, I wouldn't say that they would argue, but that their understanding of gaming in general is that it may be contributing to a lot of these problems that, you know, you hear about all the time where people have like electronics addiction or use it as a maybe a harmful escape from reality, like escaping from something that they should be addressing.
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There's obviously lots of theories out there that they might be contributing to people's aggression. Whenever you hear about school shootings or some crazy thing happening, it's always like... When I was growing up, it was these people listen to Marilyn Manson, and now it's these people play too much Grand Theft Auto. Um, that stuff with overstimulation, sleep disruption.
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What is your, uh, I, I, I guess I should say, what does the science say about this stuff? I'm presuming you have like studies available to you. I would love to hear what the data says about.
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logged out for hours and everything along those lines sorry i just want to make sure i'm uh connecting the dots here so you're saying that there is some correlation between gaming and negative or disruptive behaviors but it's not the shooters it's more of these like uh like rhythm games or um you know you mentioned ddr think things like that some of the more
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Well, you can't be addicted to tacos, sir. That's a healthy addiction.
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They are delicious.
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So is what you're saying that there is not causality between gaming and some of these behaviors, but there is some correlation between people who have maybe some unhealthy addiction behaviors and their gaming habits and also some of these negative behaviors that manifest themselves in reality? Is that more or less what you're saying?
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Sure, sure, sure. Like working out or any number of things.
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Oh yeah, Ronnie Coleman is a great example for anybody who's into bodybuilding. He's one of the most preeminent bodybuilders of all time. Can barely move now because he just overdid it. He just absolutely destroyed his body. Yeah, that's interesting. So I think that...
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I would have to assume that if anybody was able to identify, self-identify that they were in one of these sort of behavior cycles, that they would, if they had the choice, be able to step out of it and go, okay, clearly this is leading down a bad path. What do I do to correct? But I think the challenge that a lot of people have is identifying whether or not it is a harmful behavior
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You know, a harmful behavior or a harmful manifestation of behavior. What do people what can people do to identify whether or not there is a problem and what they should be doing to fix it?
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Very interesting. Very interesting. So I think you touched on this earlier, but you mentioned that being able to sort of identify and work with people when they're a bit older and they've got sort of the, you know, social awareness and self-awareness to kind of like handle discussions like this and handle introspection.
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It becomes a lot easier, but it's a lot harder in children and adolescents now. So in general, do you think that parents should be, how can parents manage their kids like screen time? How can a parent be aware of whether or not a kid's reliance on gaming is a positive or a negative thing?
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But with so many of us spending so much time in front of the screen, it can be difficult to understand what underlying benefits or harm we might be exposing ourselves to. Today, we are diving into the intersection between mental health and gaming with a truly epic guest. But first, some introductions are in order.
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Crazy. Thank you for sharing that. That sounds like a lot of work, Dr. Bain.
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Yeah, and you've touched on this social aspect quite a bit. I love the idea of playing games with your kids. When I'm thinking about my own experience with gaming and anxiousness, certainly the game provided a utility where I'm engaged in something that requires a lot of attention and therefore I'm paying less attention to how I'm feeling. But I would say that the most therapeutic way
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aspect of it was that, for instance, I was playing with my friend Josh and I no longer felt alone. There was another period in my life where, again, I was going through really bad spat and some of my very best friends, CJ and Tara, we would play Magic the Gathering together and just literally having that distraction, playing it socially provided a lot of rewards.
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So I love what you're talking about as far as You know, parents play these games with their kids. You know, this this is something that you'll both gain from very unlikely that you'll have a bad time and you'll get to understand your kid more. But on that same note, I think that there is a I worry that perhaps there is kind of like a. what would you call it?
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That's good. I think that that is the best that most of us can ask for. I don't know if this is something you consciously did, but you actually said something that really resonated with me a lot when you referred to the 35 different states that you're licensed in as being 15 short of your Pokédex. I love applying sort of nerdy principles to things in my life in general to kind of like gamify them.
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Like a doom loop that video games conveniently provide now in the way of distracting your kids. So I've seen it more and more often now where like if a kid is being unruly in a restaurant or a supermarket or something along those lines, the parents will just like give them their iPad or they'll have their own special like phone with apps and stuff on it as a distraction.
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And it becomes this sort of like virtual nanny where they're like, you know, I, I've had enough of your behavior. Here's this thing that'll shut you up. And, you know, for me as somebody without kids, who's like, just, you know, observing this from the outside, I'm like, oh man, that's great that you have this tool available to you to shut the kid up.
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But I have to imagine that, you know, there's, there's probably some underlying behavior that you're Skirting by by doing this to your kids, you know, where do you where do you draw the line as a parent between like acceptable distraction and potentially harmful distraction?
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Now we're talking.
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Like I do that with my fitness a lot. And so the fact that you're doing it with your profession and therefore also, you know, in psychology, it's kind of a cool thing to witness. So I just wanted to make sure to call that out.
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I love it. That's a great example. So would you say then that...
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Interesting. Interesting. Thank you. I'm sure that there's a lot of parents listening to this that are maybe questioning their practices right now. That's really useful to hear. So getting back to sort of the social aspect of gaming, that's one of the things that Jamie mentioned was a benefit of gaming is the social scaffolding. And you've mentioned a few times now that
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The social aspect of, you know, being able to play with your kids as being a big benefit. And I have another... beautiful example that I wanted to share from my friend Matt in California.
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During COVID, his in-laws were, you know, they're in their advanced age and certainly not like gamers at all, but they found themselves in a situation where they were now very isolated and fearful of just like being outside because of the you know, the risks that the world was presenting to them at the time. And during that period of time, they found gaming.
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His mother-in-law started playing, I want to say it was Breath of the Wild, actually, started playing Breath of the Wild. And his father-in-law just ended up watching her play this as like long form entertainment. And she ended up logging hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hours into this game. And without this game, they may not have... I don't know.
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Their COVID experience would have been very, very different than it was. And I just thought it was such a great example of what gaming can do, even in a very small circle, literally two people, to help get people through a tough time. But there is a...
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counter to that that I think is extremely pervasive especially in online gaming with communities that exist and it's something that everybody who's ever played something competitive has experienced at some point is toxicity and harassment in online gaming communities. Now, what is your opinion on the role of that in mental health? I can't imagine there is any positive aspect to that.
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So perhaps the more constructive way to think about this is then this exists. What can people do to screen themselves from it?
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Man, I am so glad you said that. There is a principle that I live by. It's well known, but it's one that resonates with me quite strongly, is that the only thing necessary for evil to exist is for good people to do nothing. And this kind of drills right back into my whole Captain America worship. But every time you're fearful of something, if you know it's not right, you have to do something.
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You just have to take it upon yourself to do something. If you yourself can't do something, there certainly is somebody who can help. And, uh, so I'm glad you said that and hopefully, hopefully the listeners will take something from that. So I'm, I'm curious, what does, what does an actual example of gaming based therapy look like?
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Like if somebody, uh, if somebody starts working with game, a geek therapeutics, what, what would that actually look like for somebody?
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Whoa, you can't do that, bro.
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Whoa.
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Yeah, but unfortunately, a lot more people played the first one than the second one.
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I, I love it. So, I mean, it sounds like at the core of Geek Therapeutics is taking these examples of human emotion and behavior and ways of processing things and applying them to people's real lives. which I absolutely love. I think it is a genius idea, and it seems like there's probably a growing population out there that can get some utility out of this.
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So, man, I got to say thank you so much for starting something like this. It is amazing to know that an organization like yours exists, and it's awesome to hear that you guys are doing so well.
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Yeah, yeah, and a lot of other currency management too, which is probably something that the education system could do a little better at teaching people.
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Yep. Most useful behaviors don't work in principle. They work in practice. Um, yeah, thank you for that. Great, great knowledge. Uh, so we are running a little short on time. I want to make sure to get, uh, we had some very interesting questions come from our community and I wanted to make sure to address a few of them here.
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So the net, the network introvert on Tik TOK asks, do you have any advice for parents of a nine-year-old with a U D H D? He loves games and video games on the tablet, but it's very difficult to regulate putting it down.
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Yeah, that's crazy. So we're a gaming podcast, and so we like to talk about people's passion for gaming first, and then we'll be able to dig in deeper to the actual clinical practices and stuff here. So you're a gamer, I'm assuming. Yeah. Absolutely. What was your first game that you fell in love with?
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it really just comes down to it's it's a it's a push and pull system and you're working with them solution you gotta work with them yeah love it uh minecraft gamer 8252 on youtube says what kinds of games or genres have the best positive effect on anxiety and depression and what is the actual mechanism of that working like what chemical gets released in the brain
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Pineapple on pizza or no?
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Yeah, I've kind of come around on that. Whatever you prefer is fine. Put whatever on whatever is fine.
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Pepperoni and olive for me, but yeah, exactly. I no longer have a staunch anti-pineapple on pizza viewpoint, but for me, it doesn't enhance the product at all. And so it's like, why put it on there?
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Last community question I wanted to ask here is a really good one from People Wonder on our Discord is what is something that the average person can realistically do to help better mental health within their current community?
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Or accidentally do something harmful, too, I would imagine.
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Got it. And in general, this is just from me, but in general, you know, gaming or not gaming, what are some best practices that you would recommend for people who are struggling with, you know, emotional hardships, anxiety, depression, that sort of thing?
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Love it. Thank you. So we're getting to the end of our time here, Dr. Bean. And I wanted to end this with a couple of this or that questions. So these are just Real quick, one word answers and your answers can be either overrated or underrated. You ready? I'm ready. Okay. Journaling. Underrated. Self-help books.
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Okay. But generally?
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Cozy games like Animal Crossing, Stardew Valley, that kind of thing.
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Souls-like games. Love them.
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Overrated. Hate them.
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So many. Yeah. Like, I beat Elden Ring, but it was a labor of love. Like, it was basically I refused to be beaten by this game. But once I beat it, I was like, I'm never touching that again. My body reacts to those like a white blood cell or something. I have like a physical physical like resentment towards Souls-like games. But I'm glad you like them.
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What about astrology?
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Overrated. AI therapists. Overrated. What about playing as the villain in video games? Underrated. Really? Do you think that there's like a catharsis there or something?
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Okay. So is it better to die the hero or become the villain?
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Mental Health and Gaming w/guest Dr. Bean of Geek Therapeutics - Gaming Podcast
Fair. Okay. And lastly, therapy scenes in movies. Underrated. Is there a particular movie or show that you think really gets it right? Oh, um...
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So I have to ask then, maybe a hot take. Tears of the Kingdom or Breath of the Wild? Which is the superior game?
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Fair enough. That's a little Hollywood magic for you. Dr. Bean, this has been so awesome and rewarding to learn a bit more about video games and anxiety, depression, mental health, and importantly about geek therapeutics and what you are doing specifically to... help connect people's passions to perhaps some relief in their personal life and in their families.
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It is awesome to know that guys like you exist and that you are taking such a positive stance on this, you know, really challenging part of just being human. Where can people get more information on you and on Geek Therapeutics?
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What's the name of that book?
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And then before the episode, you were also mentioning that you are also present at a lot of the larger sort of nerd conventions. Do you have any coming up that you'd like to mention? Absolutely.
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Love it. Again, Dr. Bean, thank you so much for being a part of this show. I have a very, very strong feeling that this is going to resonate with a lot of people. And it's awesome that you took your time to do this. We want to thank the listeners so much for tuning in.
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I am your host, John, and joining me today is a guest that is literally changing the game when it comes to mental health. A licensed psychologist, researcher, and founder of Geek Therapeutics, it's Dr. Anthony Bean. Dr. Bean, welcome to the show. How are you?
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Yeah, I have to say, like, just strictly speaking from a being able to exercise your imagination. Tears of the Kingdom is a masterpiece. I mean, you can play that game however you like, basically. I would agree. Breath of the Wild was kind of a more novel game, but everything they did well in Breath of the Wild, I think they only improved on in Tears of the Kingdom.
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I think that a lot of people have a much stronger sentimental sort of attachment to Breath of the Wild because of its novelty, but I would have to agree. Tears of the Kingdom, for me anyways, is the better of two very awesome games. Yeah.
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So to take us kind of to the purpose and the inspiration behind this conversation in this episode, I am a person who has struggled with mental health issues, specifically anxiousness, for the bulk of my life. It ended up manifesting itself at a very young age. I've had it since, gosh, I don't know, as long as I can remember, but...
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six, seven, eight years old, before childhood anxiety was like kind of recognized as being a thing. And I just remember going into doctors a lot and being sort of misdiagnosed with a lot of odds and ends as a doctor's best stab at what might be causing me to feel the way I was at the time.
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But anxiousness, depression, things like this seem to be at least, if not more common, at least more commonly identified these days. And in the gaming community, it seems to be, at least from my perspective, particularly prevalent. And I wanted to open up this segment of the conversation by sharing a couple of quotes from people from our Discord community. So Discord member Helovit says...
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The root of my depression was from my younger years of being bullied. I was always the fat kid before getting older and losing all the weight. In high school, I was in an abusive relationship which brought my self-esteem to an all-time low, and it wasn't until my early 20s when I decided to be the best version of myself, and video games was definitely part of my recovery.
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Another one of our very noteworthy Discord members named Detmarp says, COVID was rough in the ER. He's a member of the ER staff. People dying daily, nurses quitting. I could deal with all that. But what I couldn't deal with was the politicizing and fighting about it. It put my already depressive tendencies into full swing. All I did was work, sleep, and play Nintendo Switch in bed.
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If not for my children and the lack of guns in my house, I might not be here. And then a bit of my own personal story. Again, this is something that I've struggled with my whole life. But in a particularly bad episode in my late 20s, I developed like really bad panic attacks and even agoraphobia where I could like barely even get out of bed.
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Yeah, excited to have you. People who know me will know that this particular topic is something that's very personal to me. So I am really excited that you took the time out of your day to dive into this. But before we get going in some of the discussions here, can you tell me a little bit about yourself and about Geek Therapeutics?
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And the only thing that got me through that period of time, I happen to be living with my best friend, Josh, and he would like literally get in bed with me and play Mario Brothers on the Wii with me for like hours on end just to stop me from shaking. And I honestly don't know what I would have done without my friend at that time.
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And the video games were just such a engaging distraction from that anxiousness that it provided a... you know, if not a tool, at least a distraction for me to focus on something other than my own feelings. But we also hear in the news a lot about the potential negative effects. Like, could video games be contributing to or causing anxiety? Could they be causing overstimulation?
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Do they create an inappropriate crutch for parents to rely on so that they're not addressing underlying problems with their kids? So, you know, you are an expert in this field, and I would love to hear from you. What does modern psychology say about mental health effects and gaming?
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Interesting. Interesting. That's awesome.
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Okay. So I think, maybe this is a gross overgeneralization, but it seems like people of that age are generally quite eager to get their parents' attention anyways. And if you can couple that with an activity like video gaming... That seems like a double win.
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#2710 RHOSLC S5E18: Let’s Talk About the Huzzzbands
Megan Berg, you can't have a burger without the Berg.
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#2710 RHOSLC S5E18: Let’s Talk About the Huzzzbands
And our super premium sponsors. She's VVIP.
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#2710 RHOSLC S5E18: Let’s Talk About the Huzzzbands
We're taking the gold with Brenda Silva. Don't get salty with Christine Pepper. Can't have a meal without the Emily sides.
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#2710 RHOSLC S5E18: Let’s Talk About the Huzzzbands
Let's go on a bender with Lauren Fender.
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#2710 RHOSLC S5E18: Let’s Talk About the Huzzzbands
The incredible, edible Matthew Sisters. She eases our woes, it's Melissa St. Rose. Give him hell, Miss Noelle. Put on a kettle for Rebecca Weddle.
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#2710 RHOSLC S5E18: Let’s Talk About the Huzzzbands
She ain't no shrinking Violet Couture.
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#2736 Summer House S09E02: Broken Hearts and Middle Parts
Yeah. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Krappens commercial.
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#2736 Summer House S09E02: Broken Hearts and Middle Parts
Let's check it out, everybody.
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#2736 Summer House S09E02: Broken Hearts and Middle Parts
You touch my kids, I will kill you.
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What would Jesse Solomon do?
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#2752 Denise Richards and her Wild Things S0101-02:Rants and Raves
In the 1980s, a rosé swept the country. Hey, Mike, I really like this White Zin Fandome. Well, good, good. Now put it down. I'm going to try another one. White Zin became America's top-selling wine. But most don't know that this sweet drink has a sour history. What began in 1986 with counterfeit bottles... A big fraud. A multi-million dollar fraud.
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#2752 Denise Richards and her Wild Things S0101-02:Rants and Raves
sent investigators chasing one of the most powerful families in the business, the Lichardis. But the closer the feds got to them, the more dangerous things became. It's a story of deceit. At the time, I was paranoid. Threats.
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#2752 Denise Richards and her Wild Things S0101-02:Rants and Raves
and murder. With a .22 caliber bullet to the head. What started with a scheme to mislabel wine spilled into a blood-soaked battle for succession. Welcome to Blood Vines. You can binge listen to Blood Vines exclusively and ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery in the Wondery app, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify.
We Can Do Hard Things
Why Do Birthdays Bring So Many Feels?? (Best Of)
Did you yawn? Yonapalooza over here.
We Can Do Hard Things
Why Do Birthdays Bring So Many Feels?? (Best Of)
That's what she thinks too, I think. I think they think it's performative, but I promise you, it's not. It's not.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Go on. Tell me what's up, what's going on. Dude, I do that. I do that all the time.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
I want to tell you a story real quick. about the woman that raised me and her name was Lydia. And I loved Lydia more than anything in the world.
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Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
And she looks at me and she says, there's this father.
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Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
And her sweet nephew comes. Puts his arms around me. He goes, I can find him. So I go, go get that man on the phone for me, please. So I'm talking to this man and he says to me, I said, I need you here. And he says, I'm sorry, Mr. Tate, but today's Ash Wednesday. It's kind of the biggest day of the year for us. And I couldn't breathe. My throat closed. I couldn't speak.
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Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
And this is what came out of my mouth. I don't care. God wants you here today. And he heard the desperation and he said, okay, what's the address? And he came. I wrote this guy. She died the next day. I wrote this guy a letter. And I sent him a letter and a thousand dollars. Now this is in 2019, 2020.
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Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
And he will get that until I'm in the ground. Because one day he's going to share That talk. Amongst his congregation. And the talk is going to be about. When they call you just go. When they call you go. That's what being. A servant. Of God is. You just go.
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Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
I'm so bad at this.
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Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
I would say like... Like I see you, you matter. You have purpose. Why does that make you emotional?
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Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Can you do me a favor? Sure.
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Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
And what was that experience like for you?
White Hot Hate: Agent Pale Horse
Season 2, Episode 6: Get Behind Me, Satan
Yeah, so I go by Helter Skelter, or John, and have been in the white nationalist mindset, I would say, since 2015, and got... turned on to, you know, kind of the Trump train, I guess you would say.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
the christmas kiss heard round the world
The University of Florida kid won it. It was worth like hundreds of millions.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
the christmas kiss heard round the world
Damara. Damara. The less I like it.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
the christmas kiss heard round the world
I don't know if they're like, yeah, they're fleeing. Oh, I see.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
the christmas kiss heard round the world
That's nice of her. And I will do that for the rest. I will milk that woman dry.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
life as shaq's illegitimate son (the dan carney story)
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Will & Rusty's Playdate
life as shaq's illegitimate son (the dan carney story)
Amish guy comes to meet minor. It's this one. Amish man tries to pick up a 14-year-old.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
life as shaq's illegitimate son (the dan carney story)
i don't know that's a good point yeah it didn't look like he it didn't look like he even really realized that he wasn't shy about it you're trying to meet a 14 year old yeah man i was trying to give her a fucking character yeah what do you do and then maybe make her my wife we're gonna go back to mine they all like the same names too like jebediah that's exactly oh like their last names oh oh yeah
Will & Rusty's Playdate
life as shaq's illegitimate son (the dan carney story)
Aren't there Quakers there, too? Yeah.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
life as shaq's illegitimate son (the dan carney story)
It's a pitch black room. They're just like, oh, you're so nice. I like you a lot.
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life as shaq's illegitimate son (the dan carney story)
My uncle was a Quaker, but he... Just Google that, yeah.
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life as shaq's illegitimate son (the dan carney story)
they're fucking our women they're drinking our beer they're fucking our women drinking our beer they're they're losing their own jobs they get fat they're pale very pale very bad at very bad at the sun i saw i saw an irishman in the sun he said get that away from me he blinded me
Will & Rusty's Playdate
life as shaq's illegitimate son (the dan carney story)
You guys got to bail me out. Let's talk about something else. Baseball.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
life as shaq's illegitimate son (the dan carney story)
A lovely episode for you guys today. We are going to hear your pitches followed by our pitches. And then we're going to do everyone's favorite segment. Teach me something. Followed by this guy rocks.
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life as shaq's illegitimate son (the dan carney story)
I had a friend named Chris LaProd. What?
Will & Rusty's Playdate
life as shaq's illegitimate son (the dan carney story)
All right, share another pitch, Lauren.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
life as shaq's illegitimate son (the dan carney story)
If it's too hot, I open the windows. If it's too cold, I close it.
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life as shaq's illegitimate son (the dan carney story)
All right, should we do teach me something? Teach me something.
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life as shaq's illegitimate son (the dan carney story)
We're reading about this guy. That's real.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
life as shaq's illegitimate son (the dan carney story)
That was a fucking bar. That was great. Some of us hunt for deer. Some of us hunt a bargain. Either way, we're both going to hit a target. Play that shit, Lauren.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
life as shaq's illegitimate son (the dan carney story)
I actually enjoyed that.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
life as shaq's illegitimate son (the dan carney story)
Park hopper? You know that old stereotype about Irishmen. They love park hoppers. We love the park hoppers. Lauren, whose personality are you going to steal?
Will & Rusty's Playdate
life as shaq's illegitimate son (the dan carney story)
XL Carney. Alrighty. Dan, you want to plug anything before we wrap up?
Will & Rusty's Playdate
life as shaq's illegitimate son (the dan carney story)
Yeah, I put some feelers out on my way, and I met a ragtag group of guys.
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rusty barrel rolled a plane
All right. Lord, I ask you in Jesus' name. To just stop my son Tori from drinking so much. Yes, yes. Lord, just give him a sprinkle. He's a good man, Lord. Yes, he's a good child. God just help him with his drinking, God. And Lord, just let him stay with his family. Yes, Lord. Oh, my God.
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I used pull my finger to save my relationship
Jeder Läufer kennt diesen Moment, wenn es einfach klickt. Wenn deine Beine einfach mitgehen, der Schmerz nachlässt, die Zweifel weg sind und du nur noch das Runners High spürst. Das ist der Grund, warum du so früh aufstehst. Warum dich ein bisschen Regen nicht auffällt. Warum Laufen zum Ritual wird. Also laufe und fühle das Runners High.
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I was blind for an afternoon
Ich bin Charissa und meine Empfehlung an alle Entrepreneure, startet mit Shopify erfolgreich durch. Ich verwende Shopify schon seit dem ersten Tag und die Plattform macht mir nie Probleme. Ich habe viele Probleme, aber die Plattform ist nie eins davon. Ich habe das Gefühl, dass Shopify ihre Plattform kontinuierlich optimiert. Alles ist super einfach, integrier- und verlinkbar.
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I was blind for an afternoon
Und die Zeit und das Geld, das ich dadurch spare, kann ich anderweitig investieren. Vor allem in Wachstum. Ich bin Charissa und meine Empfehlung an alle Entrepreneure, startet mit Shopify erfolgreich durch. Ich verwende Shopify schon seit dem ersten Tag und die Plattform macht mir nie Probleme. Ich habe viele Probleme, aber die Plattform ist nie eins davon.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
I was blind for an afternoon
Ich habe das Gefühl, dass Shopify ihre Plattform kontinuierlich optimiert. Alles ist super einfach, integrier- und verlinkbar. Und die Zeit und das Geld, das ich dadurch spare, kann ich anderweitig investieren. Vor allem in Wachstum.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
I don't think that. I feel like I saw Jason ripping his... Yeah, what are you talking about?
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
I've only been to the city of Las Vegas in the airport for 45 minutes layover. I felt ill. The energy was so bad.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
I did not like the vibes. I will not be going back.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Yeah, I did just zone out while you guys were talking about March Madness. Aber ich habe eine Bracke gemacht und ich habe es noch nicht einmal angeschaut. Ich weiß nicht, wie ich da reingehen soll.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Und einen Bonus-Bag von Chips. 400 Dollar Chips. Ja.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Yeah, I have hella Colby Jack cheese sticks. Pull up.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
It's on Venice Boulevard, that's why they call it that. But we didn't end up going, we just went to Rasselbach and got beers instead.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Du hast sie fast genannt, Michelle?
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Oh ja, nimm sie alle. Wir hatten etwa 100 Leute. Wollt ihr heute einen Triple Drop machen?
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how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Entschuldige, sprich über deine Gottmutter.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Nein, ich will es hören. Geh, geh, geh.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Ich fühle mich, als hätte ich gehört, dass Leute das tun, weil sie nicht, vielleicht ist es wie ein Entschuldigung für sie, wenn du, wenn du ihren perfekten Sandwich vermischt. Amerikaner klingt ein bisschen verrückt an.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Oh, I'm going to go to the beach later.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
So, what else is going on? Will, hast du heute Brot mitgebracht?
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Oh, did you guys know that Starbucks is not doing Frappuccinos and all those fancy drinks anymore?
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
No, it's true. Mia used to work there for four years and literally the week after she quit... She worked at Starbucks for four years? Mm-hmm. She was a shift supervisor.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
This is good stuff. I saw... What did you... I don't know.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Well, last time you told a sorority story, it was all fake.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
I don't know who it is. Who is that?
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Yeah, true. The one you told about the sorority girl and the boyfriend's dad was completely... Yeah, okay, that wasn't true.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Ich habe ein paar in der Gruppechatte getextet.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Ready. Barely. Pitches. First pitch is from Tanner Garoppolo. Tanner says, Dear Snakes of the Ozarks, What is the worst part about owning a dog in your 20s when living with your friends?
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how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Nobody wants to deal with the commitment of actually adopting a dog. Well, now there's a solution. Also, Will, you kind of pitched something like this in the past or just brought up the idea. Introducing Rover Rent, the revolutionary app that works with local shelters that will deliver you a dog all hours of the day. The user interface is very similar to Uber Eats and other food delivery apps.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Okay. I was like mixing up the words. Jesus. You will be able to adopt them. The development team is working on an update now to include cats and chimps.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Ich liebe es. Jeder... Wenn ich über Hunde spreche, bin ich gerade noch im Haus. Und die Beagles, wenn ihr euch die Geschichte erinnert.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Ein paar Episoden zuvor habe ich eine Geschichte über eine Rettung. Ich musste meinen alten Nachbarns Hund von ihm retten. Und ich bin im Haus mit ihnen gerade. Und sie sind einfach so süße kleine Babys.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Nein, ich bin glücklich. Ich meine, sie haben einen Garten, also ich, wenn ich morgens aufstehe, sie haben einen Garten, der funktioniert. Ja, naja, sie haben es geschlossen.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Nein, sie sind dumm. Sie sind ehrlich gesagt ein bisschen dumm, aber sie sind wirklich süß. Oh, Hunde-Tricks, die nicht existieren.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Good. Alright. Thank you, Tanner. Okay, so this next thing is, he has a bunch of little ideas. I'm just going to read all of them. Steven T. Nimrod. Hi guys, this might be different.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Is Nimrod a last? That can't be a last name. No.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
That's his username. For a Green Day album.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Okay, Google him. Stephen T. Nimrod.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Hi guys, this might be different, but I have a lot of ideas in other outlets, so I'm just going to spray and pray with some ideas. Also, these are good ideas, so Lauren, don't read them all monotone. Bang. Scratch and sniff menu. Dining room table with... Can I just rip all them off, or do you want to talk about them? Nein, nur Rippen. Was war das? Bier Cappuccino?
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how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Ich weiß nicht, was das bedeutet. Oh, sie hätten eine Hatte auf der Seite. Dann würde ich schlafen auf der Seite. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
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how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Ich mag die Rip-Dollar-Assoziation.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Ich denke, ich starte meinen Basen-Tan für den Sommer. Ich habe eine Frage.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Ich habe nicht wirklich gebrannt, aber ich hätte sunscreent. Mein Nase ist ein bisschen rot, aber vielleicht ist mein Make-up es öffnen. Nicht, dass es zählt, ich wollte es nur teilen.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
It's literally not a word. You're trying to flonk me. Look it up. It's literally not a word.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Hey, hey, where was this girl? I feel like we were missing something.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Put on the sound so you can see this. Mm-hmm. Oh mein Gott.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Was zur Hölle haben sie gedacht, was passieren würde?
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
What did I think? Why did I think this video was gonna have like thousands?
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
I just want to watch a nature documentary all day. Nature documentary. Wait, can we go see the man one now?
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Ich bin verwirrt von seinem Körper. Was ist das?
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Ich weiß es nicht. Es gibt so viele Lumpen.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Oh, du meinst den Ostrich? Ja. Ich habe letzte Woche ein neues Buch angefangen und ich habe gestern 150 Seiten gelesen. Wow. Ich bin sehr stolz auf mich selbst. Was ist das Buch? Es heißt Gespräche mit Freunden von Sally Rooney. Es ist wie ein Transkript von einem Podcast. Es ist von Sally Rooney.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Ich habe das Buch noch nicht gelesen, aber ich habe das Show gesehen und das Show war unglaublich.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Das erste Mal, als ich das gehört habe, dachte ich, ich war falsch. Ich habe es noch nie gehört. Ich lebe im Mittleren Westen.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
It's funny that you bring this up. Me and Mia were joking about this the other day. We met some guy a couple weekends ago who his friends for his birthday bought him a fuck ton of Instagram followers. So me and Mia were joking saying that we were going to buy each other Instagram followers for our birthday. I can't believe people are out here doing that.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Ich denke nicht... Willst du jemanden als Katze fischen? Du solltest... Oh, das war nicht die Frage. Was? Ich weiß, aber... Weiter.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
I was just thinking about some meme where it's like when your friend mispronounces a word and it's like the funniest thing ever. Stupid. Poochie. Poochie.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Du solltest... Du solltest deinen Hinge aufsetzen, um alle wirklich verrückt... verrückt gedrehten Fotos von dir zu machen. Und dann einfach Leute für einen Loop zu werfen.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
He was like, it was on the tip of his tongue.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Strecke deinen Gesicht aus und mach dich wirklich doll.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
I feel like we've... No, he's that old, right? He's in his 80s, I think.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Alright, if you made it this far, comment.
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how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Das ist das gleiche, was du mit Drupi willst.
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how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Prinzessin, Diaries, Kass, was ist ihr Name?
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how we became the bad boys of podcasting
It's gonna get copyrighted. Alright. Sounds nice.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
I feel like I've already stolen her personality, but I'm taking Dochi's personality because I think she's awesome. You might have done that last week. No, it had to have been like a month ago. Not last week.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Ich dachte nur... Ich hatte zwei Hot Dogs.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Du hast es ein bisschen aufgedrückt. Ich weiß. Für Kontakte, wir hatten eine Bonfire bei Willys am Sonntag und Rusty hat sich überrascht, dass er keinen Burger bekommen hat.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Ein Drohne. So wie ein Mann, der eine Kamera hält.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Sie war so... Hör auf damit. Sie hat gesagt, sie mag es nicht mehr. Sie mag es nicht mehr.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Ich hätte den, den du genannt hast, genommen, aber ich weiß nicht.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Me and Ava didn't get there for so long. And I still managed to snag two dogs.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
What do you guys talk about on your podcast? Burger.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
I've only been in there a handful of times.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Guess what's tomorrow when this comes out?
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Für die vierte Zeit. Ich liebe Freaks & Geeks. Ich habe es noch nie gesehen. Oh mein Gott, Will. Ich liebe Freaks & Geeks.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Nice. Jason Segal. Jason Segal. Seth Rogen.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
Seth Rogen. Bitsy Phillips. Linda Cardellini.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
how we became the bad boys of podcasting
I don't even think I said her last name, right?
Will & Rusty's Playdate
eilise patton teaches us how to honey launder
You have a better recipe? Sure. There's nothing I like more than chili at 9 a.m.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
eilise patton teaches us how to honey launder
I one time saw the Jonas Brothers outside of Little Dom's, which is like a restaurant near my house. And they were all in like different colors. Like they look like the Wiggles. I don't know if they had just done like a... They always are dressed like they just did a music video or something. Like who's just casually wearing that purple shirt? That's crazy.
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eilise patton teaches us how to honey launder
But they were in like full different... It was like yellow, green. You guys are sticking out so much.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
eilise patton teaches us how to honey launder
And still he's, like, back in economy.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
eilise patton teaches us how to honey launder
I know, I always wonder, like, even if you're so rich, do you want to pay $10,000 sometimes for, like, it feels crazy. Like, they're so expensive.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
eilise patton teaches us how to honey launder
The COVID mask. No, look up Guy Fawkes mask. He's so rich. Oh, I can't say that, but.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
eilise patton teaches us how to honey launder
She's like, he's so rich because of the COVID mask. And then when the fires happened, he was like, and we're back.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
eilise patton teaches us how to honey launder
This is your grandmother's recipe?
Will & Rusty's Playdate
eilise patton teaches us how to honey launder
Yeah, but how is that an advancement that led to... Well, I guess if they created shadows in a painting, then you could see that there was like... You know what I'm talking about?
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eilise patton teaches us how to honey launder
Well, it's a nightmare there because they have a wall of pickup things.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
eilise patton teaches us how to honey launder
There's also a man who will call out your name.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
eilise patton teaches us how to honey launder
There's no way they can look at anything that's happening there because there's the wall and then the guy.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
eilise patton teaches us how to honey launder
Take care of. This man is kind of scary.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
eilise patton teaches us how to honey launder
Yes, like theater. How did you know he existed?
Will & Rusty's Playdate
eilise patton teaches us how to honey launder
Wait, looking at this guy reminded me of... I was doing thank you cards yesterday.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
eilise patton teaches us how to honey launder
I had to look up... My mom's friend for our wedding got us this...
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god bless her she got us this hanging like photo of a saint and it just has flowers on it and i don't know who this woman is i don't know what to do with it in my house and i've been like really putting off all the thank you cards because i don't know who it is or what to say about it and you don't know who the saint is she wrote it in like a thank you card and i've lost the card
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So I don't know who this young woman is, who is on it. And I, so yesterday I took a photo of it to Google reverse to see who the saint is. And I'm not kidding. It like showed me just dozens of images of this woman that like people are selling, like at even Bath and Body Works, like, or not Bath and Body Works, Bed Bath & Beyond, like as a, as a portrait. Let me show you. Wait, what's her name?
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i don't know there's no it's not a saint i think it's just a painting of like someone liked but she thinks it's a saint because i remember her being like this is some saint who is the patron saint of like marriage or something like very sweet and it's like made in italy but i'm telling this image you can just buy at like a bed bath and beyond like for your wall let me show you
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It's good chili. I haven't had Skyline though.
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It's just this woman. You can buy it at a Bed Bath & Beyond.
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Wait, what? And then the one she gave me, it's like covered in flowers. And I'm like, honey, you can get this at a Bed Bath & Beyond. And she ordered it from Italy. I'm like, this woman got played.
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But like this exact image you can like buy on several different sites. So I think she just got played and someone told her it was a saint and she bought it from Italy.
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and i still don't have a name yes the back of it is like it was made in italy the thing that she has but that thing she probably paid a lot of money i think so it feels like someone like a guy in a trench coat like opened it up and was like this is like this is the young shepherdess and like coerced the patron saint of marriage and she was like that's what they need so now in the thank you note i just have to be like thank you for young shepherd this sweet shepherdess woman really appreciate it this saint
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That's a good point. Not that that's the case with this lady, but... A good amount. No, yeah, this woman I actually know, she's like one of my mom's close friends. There are like... it feels like family, like I guess family in general that you love, but you don't, you know, you never see them.
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So if you were to have like a dinner party, some girl on TikTok was like, your wedding should be like, you shouldn't invite anyone that you wouldn't have at like a dinner party. And I'm like, yeah, also I'm not paying for this shit.
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No, literally my whole bridal party wouldn't pick up my FaceTime if they were in the middle of something. I was like, also I would never invite like,
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I haven't read a book. Michelle's my sister.
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That's a good amount, I feel like, for a book club.
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Well, when it was just you and Edge, that's just a friendship at that point.
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That's teaching men what a friend is.
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I think that there was a girl at a bar last weekend who was reading at a busy bar. That to me is exhausting.
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It was like withering heights. And I'm like, honey, this is Sharky's. Go home.
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out of his jersey i think she wore a huge hat like a derby yeah the kentucky derby that's fun yeah probably some sort of like the last week she was in like a louis vuitton situation i hated that yeah here's the thing i would die for each other stuff like number one fan but the outfits like have not been quite for me serving lately right
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No, I think that's just her. I also think when you get that level, you don't even know what's... You can decide the trend. No one would also tell you that it would probably be really hard to pick what to wear because everyone's like, that's amazing.
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That's why it would be weird about being famous. You got to have friends from growing up for sure because otherwise it'd be really scary to know
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because even if like a celebrity is even if you're not trying to be someone who's like chases after celebrities you're gonna be if you if you run into ryan gosling you're not gonna be rude to him you're gonna be like so nice and like just because they're famous and you're like oh that's cool so everyone no one's treating you like maybe maybe the answer is that blake lively used to be helping her with her outfits and now she doesn't have her advice wait why they broke up that's a whole bag of arms yeah they're not friends anymore
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It sounds like every film bro I've ever watched.
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If you look at all their text messages, Ryan Reynolds, too, he's like, just so you know, we work as a team. We always have, always will. And it was like they all communicate like freaks.
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he was like um if you can get the dates push i'll have your line producers uh name tattooed on my back for real it would mean the world like people are they're so weird like yours truly xo like ryan like to justin yeah i'd like to think that we would all stay normal if we got that level of success but i think we would turn pretty bizarre as well well as someone who's pretty much there um what do you think how's that been for you i don't find it that hard to stay humble
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I love it when the notes app has the most random shit. All it says... Can I say it? All it says is, Alvin or the chipmunks. It's like, all right, Willie D's heating up. What's he about to say?
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I love just going through the notes up and being like, what the hell did I mean with this?
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i mean this is just we're naked sundays oh this was um this is just a new thing i'm doing full frontal in my yard on sundays um no because i was on i was on set no worries i was on set for a commercial yeah a working actor and there was a kid like giving me unsolicited like skin advice oh And, you know, I had to pretend to be like, oh, I have. Well, why was he doing that?
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No, he was just like the makeup. One of the makeup people were like, oh, I love like your skin is great or something. And then he was like, just went on and on. And then I do this and then I do this. And then he was talking to me. So then I had to pretend to be writing stuff down. And so I wrote down Naked Sundays, the serum one.
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yeah it's just edge and i um i also wrote down bubba's auto and i remember what this is about i was getting my hair done and the girl next to me was like um she's like yeah i go to this new auto shop and they had like um a party one night it was like a customer appreciation party and i went and like their whole family was there and she's like and now next week we're all getting dinner like she's in with her auto shop yeah
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I was like that's that's crazy but also kind of a good way I guess to get they had a customer appreciation party night and it was like open bar at the auto shop yeah that's awesome I don't know if I'm going though yeah you have auto shop all the time your car is breaking yeah my car breaks all the time yeah she put it on her calendar and she was like I wasn't missing and I brought my she was like I brought my boyfriend and we went to Bubba's Bubba's Bubba's to compare or like to put the two together that feels like a like small town thing that doesn't really feel like an LA thing
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We're just messing up all over.
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We're learning. We're learning. We're learning on the point.
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Because I'm deathly afraid of heights and roller coasters. So I'm always like, I don't want to be left out. So I'm always like holding the lemonade for everyone when they go on. And I am leaving line. So I am usually the one leaving line.
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They're just chilling. They're like, yeah, so we killed our parents.
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I always feel bad when people talk about players and I guess they don't care, but when they're like, he's not the best player. I just feel like that would hurt my feelings. It is what it is. You're either better than other people, but with sports, when they talk about him on podcasts and they're like...
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Oh, okay. So she's got a sense of humor.
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People will say the smallest thing about your body, and that's stuff I've never thought about. One time someone said, I don't even want to say it, because it'll be like, yeah, I kind of see that. So it was like... why is her chin like that or something? I was like, my chin. I hadn't ever even thought of my chin.
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I'm like, Oh my God. They're like, yeah. Why is her chin? I think it was. Yeah. Why is her chin like that? Or, or like someone was like, wear her lips. And I was like, what the heck?
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We find out she's like a stand-up comedian.
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We're like, okay. Missed if you chapped us.
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I feel excited and I'm nervous. And I don't know, you guys are kind of the master of these things too. So it's always hard to go up against. But I feel ready too. Like a lot of emotions.
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yeah i'm essentially an inventor yeah and i'm like oh got work tomorrow and people are like mining for coal oh yeah willie got a really wet ass i was wondering about that earlier is this all my sweat thing yeah well i'm always looking at us better i can't blame you what what was it so do you do you know biking the the idea of it yeah the activity i was doing it today my bike to work oh it is sweat and no no the it's wet you know it's raining
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And I'm so happy the dog doesn't actually have to... Because I thought that was where the end of the story. And I was like, they were sitting in the morning with chili and the dog has to be put down.
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I never like I got a bike when I came out to California and I was like, this is going to be like my whole thing now. And it was like a cruiser one.
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It got stolen in like the first two weeks of college. And I was like, I guess that's not my thing anymore. So I never really got into it. But also like now on the east side, I feel like it's not as much biking. Everyone bikes around here and like by the beach. Like that's fun. I'd like to.
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It is like I would get scared of cars and stuff.
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My dad rode his motorcycle across the country. You ever hear stuff that you've heard? You're like, that's not the same guy.
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He's not, like, a motorcycle. I've never even known. That's just not his personality. But, I mean, good for him. It was, like, in college.
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what that was the longest it growled like so loud mine's grumbling too it's so weird because it's like i gave you chili i already fed you it shouldn't be doing that i fed both of you yeah i mean the energy drink chili combo is not sitting right at nine in the morning It's so scary.
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We were saying our dads rode motorcycles and you were talking about your dad who rollerblades, I think, is what I remember pretty sure.
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It's a Honey Baked Ham. Do you know Honey Baked Ham?
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So it's like a part of a franchise, you know.
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So like just the one location in Roanoke, Virginia, the profits aren't as good. But yeah, just the one. So they do like sandwiches, catering.
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Not much. Is it catering mostly? It's catering, yes. And who's going for a sandwich? We do, like, box lunches. So it has, like, a sandwich, you know, a side, cookies, and a drink.
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No, like, a potato salad, pasta salad, broccoli slaw. Like, I could list them all off.
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Just kind of living and just laughing, loving, being busy, but moving around. I'm trying to think of what's new in the world.
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So the cookies the side? I'm so dumb. Yeah, but normally it's like, yeah, the holidays are big and we do all the bone-in, boneless, spiral sliced, hand glazed.
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We hand glaze them in the back too.
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Yeah. My sister was like, like they have t-shirts that say like master glazer. And my dad's license plate was Da Ham Man.
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Which just kind of looked like, like Dahmer or like, because it was like D-A-H-A.
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Yes, which, by the way, that's like a hot name. I meant to tell you guys, that's like a hot name for your people. Like, because it's kind of like the Playboy.
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Because it might slow you down, you know?
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An app that just focuses on the parades that will be on your way.
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I have to like keep a log in my phone. Sometimes stuff like doesn't work here that would work on stage and stuff.
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So there's some things where like, like I did, we do, well, not to spoil, but for the live show, a little trampoline action bit. And that started at Groundlings. And then I was like, oh, but that's live. But I also think I'm thinking about we're doing like a, like you could film it here.
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But I guess you don't know what it's going to say. You'd have to put a lot of trust in it.
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If there's a glitch, they would be very confused with the other person.
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When the memories are, like, vague, too. And we've had such grand memories. Like, weird descriptors for what the memories are.
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It would be brutal, too, since they're doing it slowly. Like, if the message is sent by... It says that sent by ghost, whatever, and it's like, yeah, we'll see about Saturday. I'll let you know. And it's like, oh, God, it's beginning.
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It has timers for everything. That's brutal, but I like it.
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Hey, guys. I'm so excited to be here.
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Yeah, that's really cool. Also, I wanted to tell you that your email back because they keep mistaking. Willie just can't get on the email. They will not say he's doing the live show. They keep putting different men and they keep saying like, not you. And then you send an email and you go, I'm just Willie. You go, it's actually not Rusty. It's just going to be me. Just Willie.
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Whip it. 5 out of 10. Would it actually be a robot in your home?
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People aren't going to like this. I've seen all the movies. I haven't read any of the books.
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But I was obsessed with the movies. But what's funny is my whole family loved, loved, loved all the books. They've read them all a million times. Maybe it was the most recent one where, spoiler alert, when Harry didn't actually die.
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Okay. Um, I was like in the theater when I thought he died, sobbing, sobbing. I was like, Oh my, that's how they're going to end it. And like, of course everyone in the theater had like read the books and like no one was like emotional at all. I was like tears, but it was kind of fun to be on that ride for the first time.
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It's such a good name. I mean, isn't it weird how things just become a name? I'm like, yeah, Hermione.
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I mean, you know someone out there does that.
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I figure either way, there could be some success here.
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I was like, don't do yourself like that.
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Do you have a pitch or do I do a pitch?
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I want to make sure it's salty enough.
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so it's you can get like can i do like half everything half blueberry don't you think the scent and like essence of the everything would get on the blueberry well they're no it was like the bagel shop you start crying you come on my podcast one second one second get the bagel shop let's take it up throw up and come
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Yeah. if the essences are mixed.
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Um, okay. So this is kind of more like something that like couldn't really like actually exist, you know, cause it's not high level. Okay. Okay. Um, this is, Oh, okay. Wait, let me ask you, what's the worst part about being in a conversation with someone where you don't know? Well, I'm just telling you what the worst part is. Okay. What's the worst part about not having good movie knowledge?
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Oh, God, no, I'm sorry. Are you okay?
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What's the worst part about not knowing much about movies?
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Yes. Okay. Thank you. I agree. So this is called Quickie Wiki.
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okay and this is like when you're talking to someone and like have you ever like lied and they're like oh and you know that scene and whatever and you're like uh-huh and then they like keep talking to you about it for a while and you're in trouble because you really didn't know that thing and you can't go back and be like i don't know what that is so this is like the second that someone names a reference you don't know you can freeze time and it's just a little screen above your eye that gives you like the gemini like sum up of what it is that perplexity ai sum up
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and you can i guess like you would have maybe until you blink or something you could read it and then you can blink and then it goes back and then you can be a part of the conversation i like that a lot um just because that's how that could be we just that could exist we just gotta get like google glass yeah yeah maybe glasses you could wear or something yeah the freeze time aspect though that part's tough we haven't figured that out yet we'll get there we will get for sure do you think in our lifetime like time travel or like teleportation will be a thing
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Cut to next week. They got it.
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You can do it, but there's such severe consequences.
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We're kind of time traveling because this will come out post-Super Bowl.
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I had no idea. Joe has never said this to me.
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Oh, wait, can I use your phone for your TikTok? Because you know I don't have it on my phone now. Also, if any listeners want to sell me their phone that has TikTok.
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That's what someone said, but then I heard that it, like, wasn't working for people.
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We can look it up on the turn, too. Okay.
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It feels good. Did you guys start?
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That's actually the name of the shade of my foundation.
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I like when he said he can blend in with the snow.
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I like his Nirvana shirt. Lauren? I actually like his cadence.
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Those cases are indestructible. So kind of freaking out right now.
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It is kind of a nice check-in with the youth. Sometimes I get worried.
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Oh, yeah, it's on TikTok. You could Google Cassandra Bowman, Kenny Biggs. Have you seen this? I know Cassandra Bowman.
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guinea pigs i think it's like um sorry i should have sent this but again the tiktok situation this kid is so funny it might be like yeah they're the most popular one that this person has yeah that yeah click that first one
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Did you guys start the podcast being like, from the get-go, you knew you didn't want many women on?
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It's so insane. That's really the end of it. How does she believe it? Also, this guy's real voice is like your voice.
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Do I start? Okay. So this is just a general subject that I kind of learned about like last year. Very cool. Honey laundering. You familiar with this? So, you know, we're all familiar with money laundering.
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Yes. So basically how... You know, like it's really like the price of honey is really expensive. And I guess it's really hard to find. I guess most of the honey that's in stores is not real honey. Like it's a real problem that they have because a lot of countries are shipping it in and diluting it with like high fructose corn syrup or whatever because it's so hard to get honey.
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And then they sell it as like a super... They started with China and they were shipping it to like... They would ship it through like...
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uh kind of like a middleman and then they would say that it's from there but it was like still coming from china so it looks like it came from like amsterdam exactly and it's like actually whatever so they were basically misrepresenting it in order to bypass tariffs trade regulations and sell inferior products at higher prices um but it's like what's crazy is there's actually a honey mafia in italy like this is a real thing people are going to jail for because they'll steal hives and stuff too and then so there's like two problems people stealing hives and there's oh i want to remember the name of
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Yeah, that's always weird, too, because you like usually if my face looks insane or something, if I was in the last sketch, then you run back and like get dressed or whatever and run out. But whenever you're running out after any live show, I'm sure you feel this way, too, where you're like, do people think we're good?
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in drangheta is the mafia in italy that like in drangheta which is like oh in calabria and they were they were like the main people who are importing honey from like china and then selling it as like italian honey or whatever um and so now the u.s customs and border protection is like majorly cracking down on it which i think is such a funny job to be like yeah we're really like in charge of the honey trade is this related to like bees dying
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I think it has to do with that because it's harder to get honey or whatever. But yeah, people are like, there was like an article of these guys like in, like chained up for like, like they're in for honey laundering, which I just thought was funny.
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There should be more owls in horror movies because they're really scary.
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I'm with it. That's a new thing I'm trying to say.
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You just like walk out and you look around and you're like, and if all your friends are there too, it's so embarrassing. Like, tell me what you think it was good or, and everyone just has to like give you compliments.
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I don't think so. That's tough. I don't think so.
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How do they find DNA on something? That's what I'm wondering. That's really crazy.
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I really think that's not a real thing. I'm sure they could if they understood English.
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Do you think your tolerance has gone down? I think it does. Liam said his does.
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When you're drinking at that level for so long, I think it's different.
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That's crazy. Put a mattress on your head.
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We're going to do both, but what do we do first?
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I like that a lot. But what young, eligible, hot tailors are there?
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Oh, okay, this is Sleepless in Des Moines. Madeline Madison is a big wig doctor in New York City who specializes in insomnia. When her grandfather passes away and leaves her with one of the biggest farms in Des Moines, she's less than enthused. But after one trip to the farm and meeting the handsome stable boy, she may be changing her name to Dr. Doolittle. Also, I came up with this, by the way.
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I just got it to sound really good. And BTW, a little sleeplessness never killed nobody because they're having a lot of sex.
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with the stable boy yeah and then she's gonna maybe do that i don't know how the insomnia versus i started writing it thinking sleepless meant you can't wait you you can't sleep oh no no i started thinking that is when you're falling asleep during the day a lot and then i realized that's not that's the opposite so i had to i had to change my whole uh what is sleepless in seattle about
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It's like a late night radio host who does like segments at night, I think. Welcome back to Sleepless in Seattle. And there's like a woman, a guy who calls in. I think the woman is the radio. The woman is the radio host.
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Yeah, like, she's, I think, a late night, like, radio host, and he calls in, and then they, like, fall asleep, but she's engaged, and then they fall asleep, like, fall asleep. They fall in love over the air. They don't fall asleep during the day. They both fall asleep. The movie's really boring. They sleep the entire fucking time.
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Imagine if you didn't say anything and then I see you and then you are just there. That would have been really weird too.
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I actually love that. It's an easy shoot, too.
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Talk about Tyler. It sounds like he's got his name all over it.
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Yeah, they have a height thing here, right?
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So different than Taylor and the Taylor.
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No, no, no. Like if you were trying to escape and I just see you like, oh, it's just a joke.
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I like that a lot. That's fun. I only had one other one, but this is really not, I only did three as well.
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This is just, I was on the B train. So it was be mine. Yeah.
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No, like... Are you being serious? I was talking about when I was teaching you guys something about honey.
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I was on the classic B train at the Grove.
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I thought it was like a metro line or something.
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There's a B train. That's so funny.
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Um, yeah, I was, I was thinking about that. So this is two beekeepers meet at a farmer's market and sparks fly like, like the bees do. And when honey, but when honey is so dumb, when honey is valuable and there can only be so many players in the honey game relationship. Oh, I love how I put relationships will be tested and just, just gave up. So something there. Yeah, I like that.
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hornet horn wasp maybe they get really hornet they're definitely gonna get horny hornety yeah definitely and they're in their suits they're beekeeping suits which makes it like they can't get to each other yeah i like that love stings oh that would be the little you can't yeah and it would have a bee like dot dot dot dot dot love stings yeah um that's gorgeous
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And they fall in love? And he pulls it out of her.
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This woman is desperate. He's like, what? I just hit you with my bike. Just kiss me.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was like, oh, that's Rusty from work.
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Just kiss me. Your bike's inside of me. Just kiss me. It's brutal.
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He gives her... She's the headmaster?
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She just painted in the bar. She needs to eat it.
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His poor other girlfriend or fiance.
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It was like his mom's something.
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I like that. Oh, yeah. Popcorning.
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Eric's good at like just leading like with the most, sometimes they're like famous people who come to the show and later he'll be like, oh, yeah, that person was there the whole time and like three weeks later. I'm like, okay, good to know.
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Oh, but this is, I saw this on a book. So maybe either one. Okay. Um, did you make sure there's not a duck under the goose? This is when you don't want to get played. So make sure that you know all the information before you go in. So you don't end up with a duck under the goose, something smaller than what, you know, because the duck is smaller than the goose.
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Like you make sure like you check in with all your options. Make sure there's not a duck under the goose.
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You're like, well, if you're at sea... If you're at sea, wait, no, you're not at sea.
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Um, this one, I actually, I saw, I saw this was like a title of a kid's book, but I thought it could be a saying. Um, she thinks she's the camper and the counselor as someone who just plays all the roles. Like she thinks she's the expert. She's just like, whatever. Yeah.
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She wants to be the camper too.
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No, she thinks she's the camper and the counselor.
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We have a show that night, which is so brutal.
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It's really brutal. It's sold out.
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Oh my gosh. New AFTV YouTube coming this week. Or I guess the first one. It'll already have. Okay, watch our last AFTV YouTube. Oh, is that the Kyle Rittenhouse one? Yeah.
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Yeah, but the thing is... No, I mean, anyone would be lucky. A, it's like anyone would be lucky. Thank you for saying that. It's a nightmare. When Eric found out that it... Because it's like our big opening show is on that night too, which is usually like the best of show, which is just brutal because...
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So scary. Watch the AFTV from last week and we have a new one coming this week every Thursday.
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and come see show with the growlings every sunday and and we can now well oh yeah and we've got um check out the website because check out the website and the socials because we've got four new shows coming up in march some live shows in uh some cities near you pittsburgh toronto boston and arlington arlington va hometown show yeah so wait we have to do our last segment whose personality oh yeah is this a wednesday episode or is this a monday episode
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Wow. I feel really special then.
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I'm going to steal the personality of like a kitten this weekend who like, or like maybe just a cat, no, a normal cat, because I'm going to be like really meek and like chill. What does meek mean?
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meek like um when you're like kind of shy yep and not because like my brother's coming to town this weekend it's i know it's going to be a little rowdy and i'm going to try to not be like annoying and i'm going to be like kind of mysterious right and only talk to people like i want to and immediately leave if i don't want to talk to them like just be like very chill and like a cat love that i love that is younger brother younger brother so he's like in his like
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He turns 23 on the 16th. Yeah, yeah. Happy birthday, Brian.
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Your birthday is the 13th? Of May. Whoa.
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I don't know, my brother's coming into town because he was like, if the commanders lose, then I'll come because then it's fine. But when Eric found out that it was that night, it was like a denial. He was like, no, it's not. I felt so bad because he was like, why would they do that? He looked at me and was like, why would they do that? He goes, no, they didn't. Check your calendar.
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Oh my God, they would hate each other.
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No, so yeah, I'm going to be really chill and mysterious.
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There's no way they did that. I was like, they did. I'm sorry. He's like, these people don't care about anybody else but themselves. It was like me finding out I wasn't going to be able to watch like the bachelor finale or something. He was like, no, it's fine. I'll go. But I just like did.
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he was like so upset was there any conversation like of him being like but you obviously you probably don't even want me there yeah he was well there's a previews night so i was like if you want you could just go to the weekend before but my brother's coming down so he's like it's fine it's at 7 30 so it's like hope he was like hopefully the games blow out like but if it's really tight like what time is it no wait for the game at like three here the game's at three okay
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I'm just the first woman to say it. It makes me feel worse. I'm like, I actually got nothing going on. I guess so. Every other woman was like, I'm going to stay far away.
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I think, but still it's like, it goes four hours. Like you don't really want to be rushed, but I put it in his head. I was like, you guys should just have some beers, hang out at the house. And then like Uber to the show. Like you can come to the show really late. Cause you're already on the list. And he's like, okay.
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Right. That's my biggest worry.
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I'm excited. Are you guys excited? What are you guys doing for it?
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Yes. What are your predictions? And give me something niche that happens during the game.
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He got a book out that quickly?
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Which, by the way, I think is fake. Everything's a New York Times bestseller.
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They're like, I like when they were clashing the cheerleaders.
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He can't get any of the subscriptions. Yeah.
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I imagine him just crying. Like, I guess I just got it. Brother, it's $7.99 a month if you can swing it.
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Yeah, and she had to clarify that several times.
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Is that where that started? Like the rumor for not being able to read?
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They're like, can you write this out to my mom?
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Evanston, that's where Northwestern is.
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I've been there. I've been there, Lauren.
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You can't fart in the middle of the podcast. I did. Play the clip back.
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I did fart on the plane yesterday and I felt awful.
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I don't think that... Drop a hell yeah in the comment if you're from Chicago. All my Chicago people stand up. Jack, you don't think this looks good? Say, let's go to the Bean. I don't think that holds a candle to... In Portland, Maine, there's a restaurant called Cheese Louise.
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grill cheese themed and apparently it turns into a bar at night we were walking walking uh past it and my friend works there i guess and he was like yeah pop into cheese louise later if you guys want it was like midnight yeah and i didn't know it was a bar and i was like i don't think i'm gonna be hungry for a grilled cheese later there's a bar in boston that's a cheese grilled cheese place
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Und es hat eine, wenn du, es ist wie eine der Speakeasy-Tipps in der Mitte, wo du durch den Friseur in der Küche gehst. Ja. Und dann ist es alles wie alte Spiele und so. Aber das Beste ist, wenn du in einer der Bars in der Speakeasy-Tipps gehst, ist es nicht eine Lüge. Du lachst. Du denkst, ich bin eine Lüge zu dir? Ich bin ein kleiner Clown. Du lachst. Ich bin glücklich über deine Geschichte.
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Ich bin glücklich, auch. Ich bin gespannt. Ich habe nicht nur eine gute Partie. Du gehst in die Bar in der Mitte und die TVs sind einfach verbunden mit Xboxes. So, you can get a drink and then you'll be like, oh, can we get the controllers for that TV? So it's like one of the TVs at the bar and you can just play Mad Men with your buddy. Oh, that's great.
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Yeah, or you can play Fortnite and get the whole bar.
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Not because I... Because you hate gamers? Gamers, drop a big L in the chat if Lauren just totally razzed you.
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Everything has to lead to... Wait, what? Hell yeah! L! Bean Meat Up. What I think is so funny about speakeasies is the first time you go, obviously you struggle to get in, to figure out how to get in. But once you've figured it out, you think anyone who can't figure it out is a dumbass. I do, yeah. There's one in Portland where... Da ist ein Doppel... Da ist ein 2-Way-Mirror.
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Oh mein Gott, hast du schon Kevin's Chili gesehen?
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So, wenn du rein bist, kannst du sehen, wie Leute kämpfen. Oh, das ist lustig. Um rein zu kommen. Und da ist ein Boot, genau da. Und so, wie die erste Zeit, wo du gehst, du ziehst dich auf verschiedene... Es sieht aus, als wäre es ein Lockerraum. Du ziehst dich auf Stiefel.
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Und wenn das nicht funktioniert, hörst du auf der anderen Seite des 2-Way-Glases, was für ein Moron weiß, wie man hier rein muss. Komm schon, komm schon. Das ist sehr lustig. Ich mag das Setup. Was else machen wir? Oh, wir ghosten. Wir sprechen mit Ghosts.
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We channeled ghosts to predict the Super Bowl. It went really well. I can't tell you yet because our video comes out next Wednesday. Yeah, if you want our Super Bowl locks, you can go watch it. But I thought, I don't believe in ghosts. He believes in ghosts. Das war der erste Mal, wo ich dachte, das fühlt sich nicht wirklich an.
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Kevin's Chili. Spilling the Chili.
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Aber dieser Ort war nicht der schrecklichste Ort der Welt, also war es schwieriger, in diese Zone zu kommen. Aber wenn du in einem verlassenen Ort bist und du mit Leuten bist, die die... Technologie und so.
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Es ist einfacher zu glauben, dass dieser war wie Willi, der einfach die ganze Zeit lacht, also war es so, dass ich nicht, ich hatte einen schwierigen Zeitraum, in die Meinung zu kommen, es war verrückt, die Geister sind nicht realistisch, macht es Sinn, zu sagen, dass ich in Geister, aber nicht Geister glaube, weil ich fühle, dass Geister nur wie ein negativer, ein negativer, nein, nein, diese waren gute Geister, sie gaben uns die Superbowl-Präsentation, ich glaube, Geister sind einfach schlecht für mich, nein, was Casper,
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I heard that scene. Wait, Moments, they break character. It's like when Dwight says something and Jim totally breaks character in that one.
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Das ist wirklich sein Name, der freundliche Geist. Kasper, der freundliche Geist. Kasper, der freundliche Geist. Kasper, der freundliche Geist. Er rennt in einem Raum und ist so... Das ist ein freundlicher Geist. Ich versuche zu denken, wir hatten noch andere coole Dinge. Wir hatten wirklich virale Momente.
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He's like, I know this place like back, back in front. We're like, all right, cool. He kept like going off the course to like show us different parts of the city. But like, we kind of want to just like get to the hotel and check in. He took us to Nick Cage's future, uh, gravesite, which is a pyramid in like the sketchiest, uh, Wow, warum? Ist das eine antisemitische Sache? Bist du jüdisch?
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How would it be anti-Semitic then? I was just asking.
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My taxi driver, I take taxis from the airport because it's easier. And they ask for a tip after. I feel like that's the... Isn't the fare the whole thing? No, because they have to pay. They have to pay to get the cars from a taxi company. You should absolutely tip taxis. I tipped yesterday, but 90% of the time I'm in a taxi. Taking a taxi is just crazy.
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Maybe you will in the future, now that I know. Yeah. Denn sie müssen auszahlen. Sie zahlen wahrscheinlich mehr als... Oder genauso, wie Uber die Firma zahlt.
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ubers have to pay to the company yeah like a cut of they don't get the whole fare no i know but like they don't uber just takes that yeah well taxis they get the money up front then they have to pay it out yeah our uber driver the same guy was like yeah man you want to get around this city for cheap just pay people cash to drive you around we were like that's the worst advice anyone's ever given yeah he wanted you to get like attacked or something remote
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Aber es gibt ein paar Songs, die sagen, Amal. Zack Bryan geht nach Süden und sagt, ich bin raus, um einen Namen zu nennen und ein Verrückter aus Amal. Oh. Es gibt noch andere Songs, aber es ist ein lustiger Name, weil es in Songs kommt. Unser Freund Luke Boyd hat den Song Blue Boy für mich verloren, weil es klingt, als würde er sagen, Luke Boyd. Was ist mit ihm? Er war hier die ganze Nacht?
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Ja. Was, The Office? Ja. Ich habe The Office gesehen. Oh, du hast es nicht gesehen? Ich habe The Office gesehen.
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Er war hier bis 8.30 Uhr. Why? He was fixing up the plane episode, which came out today. Got it. It needed that much work? Ich glaube, er wurde ein bisschen verletzt, aber er brauchte ein paar Touch-Ups und dann war er in der Zone.
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Wir haben alle in der Adderall-Zone gewesen. Wir sollten eine Menge Adderall in unserem nächsten Video nehmen und sehen, was passiert. Ich habe Adderall seit der Schule gemacht und ich verliere es nicht. Ich verliere es so viel, Alter. Ich habe die meisten Lunchpläne gemacht. Es war großartig. Das sind die meisten Lunch-Pläne.
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Warum würde ich... Ich weiß nicht, wie du es sagst. Ich war in einem anderen... Ich weiß es nicht. Ich habe The Office gesehen. Das ist mein Lieblingsshow. Wahrscheinlich, wenn... Du weißt, die Chilis. Creed. Erinnerst du dich an alle Fragen, die ich Creed frage? Oh, das ist wahr. Oh, ja. Erinnerst du dich an die Chili-Szene? Oh ja, Kevin G! Erinnerst du dich an Kevin G?
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Und dann würde ich da sitzen und einfach alle, die ich liebe, texten und Pläne machen. Und dann würde ich am nächsten Tag aufwachen, wie ich studiert habe, nicht meine Papier fertig gemacht habe oder so. Und dann wäre ich so... Du hättest einen schockvollen Tag. Oh, großartig. Ich bin für die nächsten zwei Wochen gebookt. So lustig.
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That's like when the night starts dwindling down and everyone's hammered and it's like, dude, let's play golf in the morning. And everyone's like, yeah, that sounds like an awesome idea. Then you wake up at noon and you're like, we are not golfing. Das Podcast ist von Triple. Und es hat das Reisen am meisten Spaß gemacht. Du solltest es tun.
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Es hat das Reisen am meisten Spaß gemacht, was ich in meinem ganzen Leben gemacht habe. Alle waren so, der Kerl. Und du konntest immer noch steuern und alles und sicher landen? Ja. Well, no, you're not supposed to do. Do not do anything other than to hang out. If you're going to have a triple, the only thing you should be doing is kicking it. Don't do anything else.
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Oh, Mann. Warte, ich denke wieder an Adderall. Weil da war ein Mal, während meiner Noah-Khan-Flinge, habe ich ihn einfach nonstop über eine Song geschrieben. Er hat mir Videos von einer Song geschrieben, die ich geschrieben habe. War er respondiert? Ja. Hatte er es gefallen? Ja, er hat es gesagt. Aber ich erinnere mich, dass es so war. Glaubst du, er würde dich erinnern? Ja, hundertprozentig.
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Ich meine, wir haben uns verabschiedet. Wir kennen uns. Ich meine, er folgt mir auf Instagram. Oh, er folgt noch? Schön. Ich meine, aber... Sind er und Zach Bryan Freunde? Ja, sie haben ein Lied zusammen gemacht. Ja, ja. What do you think Zach's podcast is going to be about? Is he actually making one? I guess so. I don't know. He put out a new song called Blue Jean Baby.
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And I had a song called Blue Jean Baby. I can't claim. Obviously there's like Tiny Dancer. Blue Jean Baby. It's not exactly an original idea. In my comedy group in college, we used to go on retreat. And on retreat, we would have Blue Jean Saturdays. And I innovated Blue Jean Saturdays by making a song. And it went, a blue jean baby, a blue jean baby, a blue jean Saturday.
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Hey, hey, a blue jean baby. It's very fun.
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I love it. And then he puts out a song called Blue Jean Baby. And I'm like, Zach Bryan... wants this smoke, dude. He's coming after my songs. He wants to do a podcast. He... He made Rice Pee Off 3. Oh, God. That's probably next. Honestly. In my defense, I live rent-free in his head. But I want to fucking... I want to crack at that guy's ass. Ooh, you want to chip off his block?
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I want him to come on this podcast... Make out with me. We made out for... Speaking of.
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Er war super nervös daran, weil du nur einen Schuss daraus bekommst. Sonst würden sie die ganze Sache zerstören und es würde einen ganzen Tag dauern, um sie zu resetten. Und so war er einfach so verrückt, dass er es aufhören würde. Ich finde, er geht auf mehr Podcasts als jeder. Als jeder in der Welt. Und ich war auch nie mehr überrascht, dass jemand nicht so eine Stimme hat.
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There was a lot more. Did they cut most of it? Das macht es dann schlimmer. Sie haben euch nicht mal auf dem Bett gezeigt. Sobald ich euch aufschließe, endet das Video. Gut, also das Teil, wo du mein Lymphen-Bodys humpst, hat es nicht geklappt? Ich habe nicht dein Lymphen-Bodys. Du hast dich zurückgeschraubt. Als er mir gesagt hat, dass ich zu steif war, habe ich mich zurückgeschraubt.
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Da war ein bisschen Rückschraubung. Ja, das letzte Teil war für nichts. Es war nur für meine persönliche Kollektion. Aber ich habe diese Videos für immer. Weißt du, was sie sagen? Ein Video kostet 1.000 Bilder.
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We've been forgetting. Oh, I know a guy too. Jordan Mailata. Oh, I actually think I know who that is.
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Luke Jokel. Oh, warte. Er ist 76? Ja. Und ich habe Eric Fischer gesagt. Sie wurden Nr. 1 und Nr. 2 im selben Draft gewählt. Ich hätte Jokel gesagt. Fuck. Jokel? Jokel? Ich weiß es nicht. Er war der Nr. 2-Pick. Was sagst du? Ich weiß es nicht. Cooper Bowls kommen. Deine Socken. Was ist Cooper Bowls?
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Ich bin gestern in Birkenstocks zu meiner Frau nach Hause gegangen und habe vergessen, die Socken zu packen, also trage ich ihre Socken. Wow, es fühlt sich so an, als hätte sie keine Socken, die weniger in deinem Gesicht waren. Sie hat keine Mittkamen. Und also alle ihre Socken, es war entweder diese oder weiße, die hier stoppen. Ich mag sie. Was sagen sie?
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This one says fucker and the right one says mother. Oh, that's cute. No, I like that. So if they're next to each other, it says motherfucker. Fucker, mother? Oh, you just have your legs crossed. Speaking of, I am still... I was like faking doing the workout. Will and I... Oh, yeah, this is... Und dann habe ich diesen persönlichen Trainer für ein Video geholt.
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Bevor der Episode, hat Lauren gefragt, ob jemand in ihrer Schuhe sitzt, um sicherzustellen, dass die Kamera richtig gesetzt wurde. Und er hat gesagt, ich kann nicht aus der Schuhe kommen, es schmerzt zu viel. Du, das tut es. Meine Beine so wie diese... Weil du vier Squats gemacht hast. Du, spiel den Clip zurück. Schau, als ich meine Beine so wie diese habe, habe ich lautend gesagt, au. Au. Au.
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Kannst du mir einen Squat zeigen? Ich konnte es nicht machen. Hab ich dir gesagt, wie ich mich in den Waschraum wasche? Nein. Wenn ich den Top-Part mache, stelle ich den Handel auf den Boden und squatte darüber, um alle meine Knöpfe und Kräne zu bekommen. Ich konnte das nicht machen, als ich gestern in den Waschraum war. Du hattest also Stinkhals.
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Ich war einfach nur überzeugt, dass er es wirklich so war. Ja, auch wie, wie hast du diesen Kerl gedreht? Wir brauchen einen fatten, armen Kerl, um einen disableden Kerl zu spielen. Warte, ich habe immer darüber nachgedacht, wenn es einen Fatso in einem Episode gibt, was ist der... Ich meine, sie sind wahrscheinlich nur dumm darüber. Wir brauchen einen blöden Kind. Ja. Ja, das muss man.
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Nein, ich musste mit dem alten Fashionway arbeiten. Ich meine, wir hatten ein Workout, das 20 Minuten dauerte, wo wir ein paar Squats und Lunges gemacht haben. Und er hat sie nicht gemacht. Er war wie ein Verletzter. Wenn der Instruktor weggegangen ist, würde er stoppen. Nein, ich würde ihn nicht stoppen, ich würde ihn einfach fake machen. Ja. Und jetzt kann er nicht stehen oder aufstehen.
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Du, hast du zu viel Gewicht benutzt? Nein, ich habe fünf Pounder benutzt. Ich glaube, es waren drei oder fünf. Sie waren wie die kleinen, wie die kleinen, die sich auf dem Hintergrund eines Pelotons befinden. Wie kleine, wie Rubber-Dinge. Ja. Sorry, I'm not doing this. This is probably the first squat I've ever done in my entire life.
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She was trying to call it out, but I just wasn't. It was all in the knees for him. He wasn't pushing, he wasn't going back at all. Ja. Aber, weißt du, es war... Auf der Straße, da war eine Frau, die, weißt du, die Leute auf und runter auf der Straße machen. Sie machte das und sie lachte mich etwa sieben Mal, als ich auf dem Weg von der Parkplatte nach unserem Büro ging.
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Sie war auf und runter, und sie lachte mich etwa hundert Mal. Leute machen das? Ja. Könnte sein. Auf und runter auf der Straße. Könnte sein. What else? But how was your week, Lauren? What did you do while we were gone? Did you do something insane while we were gone?
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Oh yeah, she was doing that thing that would make a great story for a podcast. Yeah, what was that thing you did?
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Oh, the funniest... Because you got one bad comment? It's the funniest comment I've ever read in my entire life. I haven't read it, but Lauren read it to me. I saw it, it was all fine, yeah. Someone said that Lauren needs to play the theme song music like we do before ads, before one of her stories, so they know when to skip. Honestly. What was the story?
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Lauren, if you let one comment get to you, you're doing yourself.
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Sorry, wait, what? That should never be a feeling you feel when you're telling a story. You shouldn't black out. You should be very aware of what you're talking about. Lauren, when was the last time you blacked out? Last night, probably. Like from drinking? Yeah.
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I think he's going to turn the corner into February, too. It feels that way. Yeah, I'm not starting. I feel so good. That's great. I don't want to be one of those guys, though. I feel like sometimes sober people are insufferable. I don't think so. You are not being that. I feel like I'm trying not to make it anyone else's problem. No, you aren't. No, you're not. Er sagt dir, wie gut er sich fühlt.
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Du hast mich gefragt. Ich habe gesagt, die Nummer eins für mich ist Selbstvertrauen. Ich fühle mich selbstvertrauen. Das ist großartig. Fühlst du dich fitter? Ja, absolut. Aber das ist auch, weil ich 4-5 Tage pro Woche runne. Ich habe einen 5-Mile-Run gemacht am Freitag, der längste, den ich je gemacht habe. Ich war fliegend. Was denkst du, wenn du runnst? Musik hören.
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You know what? I had this killer run last Friday. Hey, folgt mir auf Strava. Einige Playmates haben angefangen zu schweigen. Ich habe jetzt etwa 10 Follower. Ich habe den alten Chance the Rapper gelesen. Und es ist großartig. Du brauchst etwas Upbeat. Aber ich mag es nicht, Songs zu hören, die ich nicht kenne.
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Ich denke, ich werde auf Strava kommen und starten, meine Strecke aus dem Parkzimmer zu hören. Mal sehen, ob ich meinen persönlichen Besten töten kann. Ich habe einen Mann gesehen, der einen Kühlschrank in den Kühlschrank macht.
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because you can create like segments that like that people could like if i went to your house i could try to beat your time oh that's so funny i love that all right follow me on i'm gonna get on strava uh follow me at at rusty featherstone if they if that username is um back to what you're what you're just talking about alcohol for a second even i'm happy that i don't have like the same appeal to it as i used to like last night i was right i got i left work like kind of late and i was like
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Wenn ich ein Spielmann wäre, würde ich mir ein kaltes Glas geben. Spielmanns sind überall.
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Nein, ich stimme dazu. Ja, absolut. Ich meine... Manchmal komme ich nach Hause und bin wirklich hungrig. Und dann habe ich ein Bier. And I go, I feel a little bit better. And then I have two beers and I'm like, I could not want to have dinner less. Which, that feels healthy, right? So that's another, yeah, so there's two flip sides of the same quesadilla. Yeah, it's a double-edged sword.
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It's two sides of a quesadilla, man.
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Wein ist günstiger. Ich bin wie ein Arschloch. Der Mann neben mir auf dem Flugzeug hier gestern sagte, dass er zu dem Flugzeuglehrer sprach, wie viel Wein er isst. Er hausierte diese zwölf Kälte Wein. Und dann kam der Mann zurück und er bestellte einen anderen. Und er sagte, wie viele hast du? Und er sagte, zwei. Und ich sagte, okay. Und er hatte etwa vier.
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I was telling Will, because I didn't know this was a rule. Apparently there is like, they're not supposed to give you more than like two or three. Yeah, I don't know if there's like a set rule or they're just supposed to be like... There have been flights where the flight attendant has given me like nine things of whiskey.
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And then there have obviously been times where like they just avoid me, but they've never been like... You're done. But there have been a couple of times where I've tried to flag one down and they just go right past me. I farted out loud on the plane yesterday. How'd that go? It went bad. Did anyone hear it? I don't know because I had my headphones in. I was watching Rogue One.
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The guy next to you vomits in his barf bag. But I thought it was going to be silent and I just had to get it out. And then it was not. So how do you know that it made noise? You know. Was du weißt, wenn es laut ist? Du weißt, wenn es Geräusche macht. Ja. Manchmal fühlst du es so, als ob dein Hals einfach öffnet und es auslöst und dann schließt.
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Aber wenn es irgendeine Resistenz gibt, dann macht es Geräusche. So wie das. Das wäre ein Beispiel, der Geräusche macht.
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Did you hear that line? You asked for an example from the tape. She said, give me an example. She said, give me an example. She said, give me an example. I'm going to stop doing the podcast. I have a new Delta goal. I was sitting next to a guy yesterday. Das ist eine neue Sache, die wir unschuldig machen.
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Der Flugzeuganwalt kam zu ihm und sie waren ihn aufzupacken und ich hatte meine Handzüge an und ich dachte mir, was könnten sie so lange darüber reden? Ich habe es aufgenommen, er war ein Millionenmeiler und der Flugzeuganwalt war so, ja, er war verbunden, er geht nach San Francisco, er ist so, häng einfach zurück. Er ist so, ich werde dich zum nächsten Flug nehmen.
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Ich sah, es gibt einen Medium-Builder. Oh, ja. Yeah, some of my favorite songs, I don't know the lyrics, I just know what the word sounds like. You know, like, have you ever listened to an Elliot Smith song? Like, oh, this is beautiful, but I don't totally understand what he's saying.
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Like, I was listening to Son of Sam when you and I were going to the airport yesterday, and I was reading the lyrics on Spotify as he was singing, and I was like, oh... Das ist es, was er sagt. Du hast gerade über Son of Sam gesprochen, oder? Ich dachte, es war nur eine lustige Lieder, die er geschrieben hat. Wahrscheinlich geht es um einen Mörder. Ja. Einen Serialkiller. Ja.
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Wir waren in der Raum, in einem der verheirateten Räume.
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Und... Ich habe eine Geschichte... Ich habe eine Geschichte von mir auf meinem Tisch geschrieben.
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Und die Frau, die den Ort besitzt, war so... Ich will, dass alle herumschauen und einfach, du weißt, es gibt viele Objekte in diesem Raum, wie du weißt, was wirklich anruft. Und so schaue ich herum und sie ist so, du weißt, Rusty, was anruft. Ich war so, naja, das Pistol spricht mir. Wie in einem Geist, es war alles wie geheimnisvolle Scheiße. Und es war so, was beckert dich?
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Und sie fragt Strider, was klingelt an dir? Und er sagt, diese Waffe spricht mit mir auf der Wand. Und dann kommt es zu Will. Und sie fragt Will, was klingelt an dir? Und er sagt, ich weiß es nicht wirklich. Und sie fragt, was ist es? Und er sagt, es ist das kleine schwarze Baby in der Runde. Und es gibt diese schwarze Baby-Dolle in der Runde. Und dann gab sie ihm die Chance, sich zu verdienen.
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Und sie fragt, was klingelt an dir? Und es gab noch ein anderes schwarzes Baby drüben. Und er sagt, das Baby da oben klingelt an mir auch. Und wir sagen, Alter, lach einfach. Sag einfach den Knopf. Aber du, also dieses Haus... Gott sei Dank, ich habe mich von Black Babies angerufen, okay?
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Ich... fucking... Was auch immer, Alter. Ich bin ein Typ. Du bist in den Black Babies, Mann. Das ist was auch immer. Paul... A-O-Pause. Das Haus, in dem wir waren, Lauren, dieser Typ lebte dort mit seiner Freundin. And after Katrina, they got in a fight and I guess he like strangled her to death on accident and didn't know what to do.
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Es war ein Busty Blonde in einem Bild hinter mir. Ich sah sie nicht als Busty. Es war einfach... Ich habe einen Poster in meinem Raum von einer animierten Blonden Frau mit einer kurzen Blonde. Animiert? Es ist ein Bild. Es ist nicht eine echte Frau. Okay. Es ist der Broke-Never-Cheap-Poster, den ich habe. Hast du das gesehen? Schau dir das an. Ich brauche nur eine Referenz.
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So he like went to work and he came home and was like, I need to get rid of the body, chopped her up in the bathtub and then cooked her in the oven to get rid of the evidence. For like 13 days? And the oven's still there. They rented the house out after and the landlord kept the oven and people used the oven. I almost don't believe that. Why would she lie to us? Because she sells ghost tours.
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Oh, a playmate came up to us at lunch and then she DM'd me that she does ghost tours in New Orleans. She like runs them? Yeah, which maybe she made up retroactively. She didn't mention it at the time. Interesting. A ghost is a tour. Do you ever ghost someone, Will? Yeah. How'd that go? Feels shitty. Tell me about it. What do you mean? What happened? I want to know, too. Just stop responding.
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Well, give us the lay of the land. Which time? You've done it multiple times. Yeah. Why do you ghost people? I get nervous. Why don't you just say, I don't want to talk anymore? Because some, I don't know, sometimes it's just like. Not if it's like a serious thing. Alright, we're going to give this person... I think that's totally normal. I don't think it's good, but I think it's pretty normal.
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Like if it's been like a once or one time thing or something. Yeah, I feel like that's... The conversation is kind of dwindling and then you just don't respond. Let's roleplay it. Lauren's the girl, your will. Lauren, text will.
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No, no, no. It's not usually... Well, I don't know. I don't know what we're talking about. I was just making a joke. Lauren, now let's roleplay. I'm going to show you how to healthfully end a conversation. I don't need your advice.
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I would say, well, why am I ghosting them? Let's get to the bottom. You lost interest. Okay, you hung out one time. Hit me.
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I hope you're doing well, by the way. I hope you're having a great week. But I think, you know, transparency is the best policy. And I, right now, I'm just not really looking for anything serious. So I think, you know, maybe if we're both in the right headspace down the road, I'd love to get back together. I mean, this would be an insane text to get.
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Okay, you want me to be serious?
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Wir stellen ein Bild davon hier.
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No, I would just say, like, I'm not looking... Hey, don't want to lead you on. I am kind of in a weird spot right now and I'm not looking for anything serious.
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But, you know, things can always change. I'd maybe love to see you down the road. That's probably what I would say.
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And you don't want to see me anymore.
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Yeah, next week I would go, oh, crazy, Tame Impala's in town. I have two tickets again, you wanna join? Oh, I would pretend, I fucking love Tame Impala. Okay, uh... I would go, I would go. You'd... Still woozies in town.
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Oh, da ist es. Es ist ein Entry-Level. Oh, ja. Ja, es ist dieses, aber es ist ein Poster. Also, ich habe das auf meinem Wall.
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What is that? But I need 20 bands for a fucking anklet. What is that? Dude, one of the maintenance guys was out there doing work on the wires or whatever they were fucking doing. That's awesome. Und ich war neben den Fireball-Stocken. Er meinte, sind das Boos mit Stockings? Ich meinte, ja. Und er stand da und ich meinte, willst du einen? Er meinte, ja.
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Ich gab ihn zu ihm, er fuhr in sein Auto und kam zurück und arbeitete.
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Ich bin froh, dass es dir gegeben wurde. Und jetzt ist er da. Wir gehen raus und sie sagen, zock, zock, zock. Okay, sollen wir in die RM gehen? Yeah, I'm glad we got to the bottom of that. Listen, I'm trying to be better about it. And I don't think it was as... If I took her to church and she met my mom, that would be a different... I mean, that would be your wife. That would be my wife.
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Ich habe eine Geschichte von mir veröffentlicht, das Poster war im Hintergrund. Laurens Freund Mia hat es aufgenommen. Lass mich die exaktere Gespräche lesen. Wait, so this is what you mean by sexting?
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He goes, call me. I accidentally sexted Mia. By sexting me, he means he... Well, you haven't even heard the story yet. Let me tell you the story. I thought that was the story. No, no, no, no.
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I know, but I don't... What did you say? She read it and used it perfectly and then she goes, I don't know.
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Lauren swipes... Mia swipes up on the story and she says, I like that print. Und ich habe gesagt, dass es von der Ausgangslage her ist, was eine Firma ist, die Will und ich lieben. Und dann habe ich es nachgedacht, indem ich gesagt habe, es sieht ein bisschen wie du aus. Und dann war meine Freundin neben mir und sagte, das ist eine seltsame Sache, das zu sagen. zu einer Frau.
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I like it. I mean, it feels like a goldmine. You have the income from the parents paying to leave them there and then you don't even have to tell the parents you're renting out their babies during the day. So it's like a normal daycare and then you're making all that money from people. That's genius. I love it. Imagine we had a few babies on this pod right now.
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You're on one today. I am on one today, I'm sorry. Dude needs milky. Dude needs milky bad. I'm sorry to anyone listening. I love it. I'm gonna rent your baby. Alright, I'm gonna rent you, baby. That's what I would say right before I rent it.
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That's a good pick-up line at the bar. Hey, yo, ma, I'm gonna rent you, baby. I'm talking about at the baby place. I would say, I'm gonna rent you, baby. Will that line work on you at the bar line?
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I'm gonna rent you tonight. You month to month or you a 12-month lease? What's the APR on that ass? What is APR? Annual Percentage.
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Wow. Alright, let's hear another pitch. And good at bowling.
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That's true. We should plan another... Maybe next... I can't. I can't this weekend or next weekend. Why not this weekend? My mom and dad are here. They could bowl with us. You do not want to see my dad. Is he good? Yeah, he got a six pack one time. I don't know. Six straight strikes. Jesus.
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Strong massage. A little black one. I was going to say Chinese.
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Have you seen those huge babies that the NFL teams comment on on TikTok? No. Google huge lions baby.
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The Detroit Lions called dibs? Yeah. Good Lord. Oh my God. She just posted a video of their baby and it was huge and the top comment was the Detroit Lions have come with dibs. Oh, I saw that. And then I've seen like other people post their huge ass babies and like tag NFL teams. Huge ass babies. That was a big ass baby. Big ass baby. With his little rolls.
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Und so habe ich es gelöscht, was es viel schlimmer gemacht hat und versucht, meine Tracks zu öffnen und dann habe ich das gelöscht. Und dann hat Mia gesagt, ich habe diese gelöschten Nachrichten gesehen und ich habe gesagt, ich panikiere, sie ist blond, du bist blond, tschüss.
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I like it a lot. One thing I've noticed since I got into reading is I will be... Ja. Ja. Ja. I mostly am only reading because I think it's cool that I read. I don't really care. Interesting.
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No, I'm very interested in the book, but I have to re-read it because half the time I think it would be awesome if someone walked in and saw me reading it.
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We can be friends on it. Yeah. Du kriegst Strava und Goodreads. Und nicht wirklich sowas. Okay, was ist das Schlimmste an Essen? Warte, wir haben noch nie über seinen Pitch gesprochen. Oh, sorry. Würden ihr das wollen? Kannst du lesen, wenn es Musik im Hintergrund gibt? Ja, ich liebe es, wenn es Musik im Hintergrund gibt.
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Und dann habe ich ihr ein Bild von meiner Freundin gesendet und ich habe gesagt, Prüf, meine Freundin hat mich geschaut, habe das getypt und habe nichts gesagt, bis es zu spät war. Und dann habe ich Lauren angerufen und ich war so verrückt, bevor wir es aufgeführt haben. Und ich war so sorry, ich habe Mia gefeuert. Und sie und Troy waren so, was? Das ist schrecklich. Warum bist du immer gefeuert?
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Ja, ich agree. Es müsste wie ein Beat sein. Ja. Oh mein Gott, als wir unsere Yoga-Session gemacht haben, war die Musik kopiert worden. Und der Sound-Guy hat gesagt, stopp. Für das Ghost-Hunting-Video machten wir eine Yoga-Session, um unsere Gedanken zu klären, bevor wir mit dem Ghost gesprochen haben.
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Also wir sind in diesem verblasenen Haus, Yoga zu machen, mit einem Yoga-Instruktoren aus Craigslist. Und ja, der Sound-Guy war so, wir sollten das wahrscheinlich ohne Musik spielen, wie sie es normalerweise für eine Yoga-Session spielen, weil es kopierbar ist, blablabla. Also haben wir die Musik ausgedrückt. Und dann die andere Frau, wir hatten einen persönlichen Trainer für später in der Video.
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Und sie war auch random von Craigslist. Sie sind beide Charaktere. Der persönliche Trainer war so, oh, mein Freund hat diese Band. Es ist so eine gute, ethereale Musik, die gut für Yoga wäre. Ich könnte das spielen, und dann wäre es kein Copyright-Issue. Und wir waren so, oh, perfekt. Und sie machte... Es fühlte sich an, als wären wir geprankt.
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Weil wir alle standen da, wie in Downward Dog, mit unseren Augen geschlossen. Und sie machte den schlimmsten Song, den jeder von uns gehört hat. Es war wie die schlimmste Version von Suicide Boys. Es war nicht ethereal. Es war wie Hard Rap mit Drill-Beats. Es war verrückt. War jemand in diesem Song? Nein. Es waren zwei ungewöhnliche Leute aus Craigslist, die sich interagierten.
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Und die Soundguide hat sie ausgelöst.
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Ja, es waren Schritte aus dem Ofen, wo diese Frau gekocht wurde. Was ist das Schlimmste über Essen im Bett, Dinge im Bett zu tun, außer schlafen? Du rollst dich auf. It's like hard to balance everything, right? So it's like if you have like your plates over, like there's like a bunch of dishes and stuff in the bed and it's like, this is a nightmare.
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What happens if I want to like put down the burrito? Yeah. My invention is called free hands. They come out of the ceiling and you can like just like hold the plate out. It'll grab it and you can have all your things in front of you. You could do it for like if you're working in bed, you'd like put like your laptop in one of the hands, like maybe a book in the other.
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Have you ever seen those things that are just like, Yeah, but this is like different. You know what I'm talking about? Like a little wood thing over here? Well, I don't want to have breakfast in bed. I want to be mobile. And when I want to put the burrito down to eat my chips, I want to be able to move around.
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So I just hold it out, the hand grabs it, hold it there, maybe hand it my phone, it can hold TikToks up. Wow, I like this. Free hands. How many are there? As many as you want. Wow. It's like a Wallace and Gromit ass. Yeah. Contraption. Never saw it.
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Du würdest es niemals sehen. Du würdest es niemals sehen. Du würdest es niemals sehen.
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Ich weiß, er macht es schlimmer. Was denkst du, dass du gefeuert bist?
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It's over at the end. You want more. No, it's too smooth. It's like a liquid or something.
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You want more like chunks? This is the thickie. It is dense. It is just like fruit and paste and it is like you eat it with a spoon out of a bowl. But it's way thicker than that. How do you drink it? You don't. You eat it out of a spoon. This is literally a smoothie bowl. It's a smoothie bowl. But it's way thicker than that. Oh, it's a thicky bowl. You've like cut it with the side of the spoon.
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It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like sorbet almost. You couldn't sip it. It's thicker. Whatever you're picturing, thicker. Speaking of thick men.
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No, I thought it was going to be a lot worse.
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One of the comments was like, I hope they talk about the biggest thing of yogurt ever today. That was still one of the craziest things I've ever been asked. I liked that question. I liked your line of thinking. Lauren, do you have a pitch today? No. Okay, well and rest here in the bathroom.
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Oh, the prank. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which one are we doing, Lauren? Wasn't there one that was like literally... Oh, it was the kid who was saying his mom doesn't know if her fence is technically a fence or a gate. And she's like worried that the city is like... Oh, do we not... Yeah. What? I didn't read it. Do we not have one picked? No, Lauren sent one that I thought was perfect.
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Okay, I wouldn't have thought... I mean, it's definitely a weird message to send.
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The kid was like, my mom is... Ja, bitte.
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Yeah. That's a cool name. It's like a good name for like a group of guys that smoke. Rollingwood, Texas. What county is that, Lauren? Was ist ihr Name? Julie? Hi Julie, this is... Hi Julie, this is Mark from the Travis County Permitting Division of the Building Department here in Travis County. I would say it once. Yeah, I know. I was correcting myself at the end.
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Did you say that into the mic? Yeah. Alright, ready?
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The lights got to him. I gotta call her back before she sees that voicemail.
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What do you mean? Because if she listens to that, she's gonna know it's fake. So you have to leave a new one? Wait, what? Fuck. Damn it. I blew it. That was an all-time joke. This is a build-up. He laughed. He laughed. Yeah, because you fucked it up twice.
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Das ist Mike für die... Alright. That was awesome. Will you tell him that... What's his name, Travis? No, that's the county. If she calls me back, I'll pick it up. Permitting division of the building department here in Travis. We made shirts that say it. I know. And they're available on our website right now. Go buy it. Almostfriday.shop slash playdate maybe?
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That voicemail could not have been... Ending it with fuck is bad. It's all done. I'm sorry I cursed in front of your mom, Travis. It's not Travis. What's his name?
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I have never fumbled a thing worse than that. No. Remember your last relationship? I didn't fumble that. Let me ask you a question. What do you hate about jeans, man? Stiff rubbing on my leg. I hate when things that are stiff rub on my leg, too. Especially jeans.
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I just wanna say, if there are playmates out there that like saggy diaper butts, steer clear. Steer clear. What can you do in the perfect jean? You can rescue stray cats like a denim superhero. You can manspread during game night. The hell's a denim superhero?
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Hottest Pilot, den ich je gesehen habe. Er war ein guter Pilot. Sie kommt raus und sagt, wie alt ich bin. Es wäre so, als ob eine Frau deiner Art aus dem Flugzeug fliegen würde. Das erste Instinkt ist, dass diese Person zu jung ist, um dieses Flugzeug zu fliegen. Er hat versucht, sie zu sexen. Nein, ich habe es nicht gemacht. Ich habe sie in den Cockpit gedroht. Ich zeige dir einen Cockpit. Okay.
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Fuck your khakis. Get the perfect jean. Alright, what's our next segment?
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Have you guys ever heard of the main hermit? No. I thought there was like a main one. There's like a primary hermit. Alright, the main hermit was... I'm like really nervous about her calling back now. The main hermit was this guy in Maine in the 70s. Yeah. He quit his job and... Oh, she's calling, she's calling. What? You got Willie D's. Der Main Hermit war dieser Typ und er war wie ein Rekluse.
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Und so fuhr er in sein Auto, begann durch Main zu fahren und fuhr es, bis es aus dem Gas fuhr. Und dann kam er raus und begann durch die Wälder zu laufen.
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He wanted to get away from society, found this like perfect spot deep in the woods that was like all these like boulders, whatever. He knew no hikers would come here, so he set up camp here, right?
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And in the middle of the night, he would like sneak down and steal someone's kayak and like kayak through the lake and like pop into people's houses and take like things, just like canned goods and stuff. He wasn't malicious at all, duct tape, things that he needed, whatever. And then we'd go back and he would like hoard all this stuff for the winter and just survive on his own.
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He didn't talk to anyone for, I think until like 2000 something, like 2006. He accidentally ran into a hiker. She said, hi, he said, hi. It was the only word he said to another human being for like 45 years. And then the, uh, People started to notice that their stuff was missing and they felt like a bear was maybe breaking in and taking their stuff. It wasn't like someone was robbing them.
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They were just taking food and then leaving. You were going in people's houses? Yeah. Post 9-11, I guess every... die Behördenverwaltungsbehörde von der Regierung. Und diese Stadt hat es mit Sicherheitskameras verwendet. Man hat Sicherheitskameras auf den Häusern auf diesem Pond aufgebaut. Und sie sahen diesen beigekleideten Mann reingehen, ein Stück Kornfleisch nehmen und dann weg.
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Ich dachte, das ist seltsam. Und sie haben ihn gefangen. Und er ging in den Gefängnis. Well, he's like awaiting trial, he's in there for like six months. He gets out, the judge and like even the victims, if you want to call them that, were like, oh, we don't even really care. This guy just like didn't want to be a part of society. He took like some soup, like we don't really care.
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So the judge realized that he didn't really do anything wrong, asked him how long he'd been in jail. He was like six months. They were like, all right, here's seven more days. And then they just released him and he went and lived with his mom for the rest of his life. He didn't go back? No, because he was on probation, so he had to go to his mom's house. Got it. Isn't that crazy?
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The 70s. Wow. 70s are a crazy time. Late 70s, early 80s maybe. The main hermit. Isn't that insane? Look up the main hermit camp.
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No, look up his camp. Oh, I feel bad. I was like interrupting her. Look up his camp though. Go to images.
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Her like phone call. Yeah, he just lived in this for like 40 years.
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Oh, like what if she's on a business call? And this guy, this kid keeps trying to prank call her in the middle of the day on Wednesday. It's really fine. She just declined it twice. Yeah, it's really okay. Also. You guys are like, I'm not doing business with you anymore. You get too many prank calls.
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But we didn't even get anything out of it. We just only bothered her. We got something out of it. Teach me something, will you? One of the cool things I got to do while I was in New Orleans was on Monday, me and Strider went to the World War II Museum. National World War II Museum. Which is heavily focused on D-Day. Because it used to be the National D-Day Museum.
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Aber sie kommt raus und meine initiale Reaktion war, das ist eine seltsame Uniform für einen Flugzeuganwalt. Warum inkriminierst du dich? Das ist nicht inkriminierend, sie war 25 Jahre alt. Was war sie an? Sie war an einem Pilotenuniform. Also warum ist das seltsam? Nein, es ist er, der sagt, das ist ein seltsames Outfit für einen Flugzeuganwalt.
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Because they made all the boats for D-Day in New Orleans. Or a lot of them. Anyway. I didn't know that. That's pretty cool. Yeah, the Higgins boat is what it's called. The one with the door that swung down.
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Before that, they would have to just put ramps and then climb up and go down. But then the Higgins boat had a releasable back that would just flop down. Was ich interessant fand an D-Day, was ich nicht wusste, war, dass die Nazis wirklich erwarteten, sie wussten, dass sie für die Atlantische Wand kommen.
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Sie erwarteten, dass sie in Calais kommen, weil das die leichteste Part von Frankreich aus England ist. It's like where the channel is the shortest, but they were going to check Normandy, but they wanted to keep the Nazis thinking that. So they built a bunch of, they made a bunch of like inflatable tanks and planes and like dummy paratroopers.
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And so they like had a bunch of them so that when they did recon, it looked like all their stuff was stationed near Calais. And then they dropped paratroopers over Calais that were just literally like, Sie waren wie Däume mit Paraschüten. Sie dachten, sie würden getötet, aber sie wussten nicht, dass sie in Normandie gehen. Das ist so cool. Look up these inflatable things. They're really cool.
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They would use them outside of that as well. In other battles. They would have these inflatable tanks. They would set up fake bases. So that whoever, the Germans, whatever, would go and bomb these things and be like, oh, we did some damage, but no one was there. That's so sick. You want to know something sad? Yeah, look how light it is. Those four guys could pick it up. Oh, yeah, wow.
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Or that's a real thing and those are the four strongest guys. The Germans obviously were doing a lot of fucked up stuff, but one of the worst things that I heard about them is they would... The Holocaust? Yeah. Ich wusste nicht, dass es um den Holocaust geht. Wir hören immer über 6 Millionen Juden. Das waren nur die jüdischen Menschen.
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Sie töteten Millionen von anderen Minderheiten, wie Gypsys und Polaks. Aber sie trainierten diese Hunde, unter Tanks zu fliegen, Lauren. And so, once they, like their own tanks, they would hide food and stuff under there and train them, like, that's where the thing is, you want to go under there?
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And they strapped a bomb to the dogs, the back of the dogs' back that had this latch, that when it hit the tank, when they ran under the tank, it would detonate. And so they could just, like, send a dog and it would, like, explode this tank from the bottom. Jesus. The Germans were fucked up. Fucked up people. Yeah, it was bad. Was it cool? It was fascinating. Yeah, I'm sure.
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They have like photos that I just, yeah.
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I thought you were going to say there was a Holocaust near my house.
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Guild like bears fans. Oh, speaking of, we were talking, I guess we were talking about, like, Lauren asked last week, like, how to get into history and stuff. And I completely forgot to say History is Dank. Strider, our friend Strider has a podcast called History is Dank. I went on it last week for, we talked about Pirates. So if you want to check out that, it's good. Liam and Angus have gone on.
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Das klingt total sexistisch, und ich habe dir das gesagt, als ich das gesagt habe. Ähm, und dann... Das ist anders. Und dann haben wir... Ich habe einen Text in der Gruppe geschickt, wie schön der Flugzeuglehrer ist. Und Will hat gesagt, dass sie vor ihm im Starbucks war und er, Quote, verliebt ist. Ja, ich meine, es gibt so etwas wie eine Frau in einer Uniform. Wie geht es dir?
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I think Will, you've gone on. I've gone on twice, talked about Pirates twice. Will hat einen offenen Anruf, aber er hat kein Auto, um dort zu kommen. Ja, es ist schwer zu bestätigen, wenn man aus dem Auto fährt. Wo ist es? Burbank. Ja, ja, ich meine, ich werde es irgendwann, aber ja, sie haben diese riesigen Flugzeuge und Scheiße, die B-17s und all das Gumbo.
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Und sie hatten, sie hatten diese Klappe, sie hatten diese Klappe, es war wie eine Klappe mit einer kleinen Waffe am Außen. Und es war designt, dass, wenn man jemanden schießt, er einen Schuss in sie schießt. Und wir waren so, no way, never heard about that. When did they use that? Yeah, how have we heard about that? And we read the thing. It was like, only 200 of these were ever made.
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I was like, alright. So this, they just wanted to include it. But I don't think it was a big part of World War II. But it was really cool. They walked you through Europe and the Pacific Theater. And the rooms you're in are like, they recreate, like when you're in the Pacific Theater part, it feels like you're in the jungle. There's sounds playing and trees and like...
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so you kind of get oh we were right by that like yeah um it was really cool world war two sucked i'm so out on world wars yeah like well i don't want that shit to happen again i the good news is willy if there is a world war three it's gonna be over pretty quick i don't know if that's true well it would just be first person to launch a nuke we all mean they had nukes in this too
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Und es war nicht das. Ich glaube, sie hatten ihn so, wie wir es hatten, wo es ist wie ein Knall in einem anderen Land in etwa sieben Minuten. Ja, ich meine, sie haben, weil wenn die Russen ihren Feuer und wir, wir würden nur unseren Mutual Destruction Feuer. Der einzige Grund, warum es ist, dass es keinen ist, ist der Threat des Mutual Destruction. Ja, das ist großartig.
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This guy Ross today. Okay, so I don't know if you guys are familiar with these people on AirDrop2. There is this group of people out there who their friend group is set up like a wolf pack. Also das ist General Alpha. Ja, da ist Beta. Da gibt es eine Menge. Sie alle haben verschiedene Wolfsnamen. Und dieser Typ ist normalerweise wirklich wütend. Und dann ist er in diesem Teil wirklich glücklich.
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Also arbeitet er an der Texas Roadhouse. Und es scheint, dass einer seiner Co-Arbeiter ihn ermutigt hat, den frischen Pickle-Hot Sauce Challenge zu machen. Viral. Viral. Ja. Hot Sauce Fried Pickle Challenge. Ja. Und das ist er, der ihm einen Schuss gegeben hat. Schauen wir mal. Sie haben es in zwei Teilen verbreitet, also weiß ich nicht, ob er es in diesem Teil wirklich isst.
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Aber du wirst... Ich denke, das ist... Der Hot Sauce sieht aus wie ein Taco Bell Hot Sauce. Also das ist einer davon. Das ist einer der drei. Das ist einer der drei Ebenen. Und ich denke, die Dynamik dieses Gruppes ist faszinierend.
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Shut up, Beta. I like this crew.
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So, I don't know what kind of people those are, but... You know exactly what kind of people those are. What does that mean? You've never met people like that? Uh, no. That type? No. I worked with a guy who was the reincarnation of this guy. Was it Alpha? No, but they just like... I don't even... I wish I had a better vocabulary to... Describe how I feel about these people.
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Liste Uniformen, die du an Frauen findest. Astronaut. Ja. Erlebt viel in der Imagination. Game over.
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Can you imagine if that was your life, Will? I mean, they seem happy. Go to their page. I don't want to spend too much time with these people. He's normally in the worst mood. Yeah, maybe the true alpha. Soccerballs55. I can't watch more of this guy. Do the part one of the full, legit Alpha Arm. Go down, go down, go down. This room probably smells so bad.
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Delta could clearly win, but he doesn't want to upset the pack.
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Ja. Es wäre lustig, wenn du sie sehen würdest. Irgendwas wie Blue Collar. Hot. Mechanisch. Oh, ja. Sie ist bereits geölt. Das wäre lustig, wenn die Astronauten-Uniform formfittig wäre. Stopp mit diesen Dingen.
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Yeah, I don't think you can do that.
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Alright, yeah, you get the gist.
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I just am empathizing for our audio listeners that just had to listen to that. Yeah. They're loving it, dude. Oh my god, that was the worst thing I've ever seen. I love those people. Lauren is right, though. That room probably smells like cheese. Straight coochie. Ew.
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Why did you say that? Ich habe es nicht gesagt. Das war Will. Nein, es war nicht. Ich habe das Audio schon gehört und manchmal kannst du nicht sagen, wer von uns spricht. Du hast es gerade gesagt. Ich lege die Hälfte unseres Publikums auf, dass er es gesagt hat. Oh, okay. Aber sind das nicht... Ich weiß nicht, was ich damit machen soll.
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Stell dir vor, dass du einen Tag wachst und du in ihrem Körper bist. Sie haben einen schönen Sinn für die Gemeinschaft und eine coole Gruppe. Ich gebe ihnen das. Glaubst du, dass jemand uns hängen sieht und sich so über uns fühlt? Wahrscheinlich. Nein. Sie könnten. Alright, show me who rocks, Willy. I think I slanked it to Bryn. You slanked it to Bryn? Yeah. Slack it to Brian.
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Brian is our fourth employee that just received slacks. My grandpa is... Yeah, the most recent one is actually my other segment, the name of the week. A funny name. Oh, no, you can do that now. Oh, okay, never mind.
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Yeah, I know. I mean, we didn't slot in the name thing, so we can do whatever. But we'll do it after this. Oh, you already liked it. I've already liked this? I don't remember this. Alright, this is someone's house is flooded, and then you find out why. Wait, but the caption says what, Willie? If we didn't have a camera, nobody would believe us. Oh mein Gott. Oh mein Gott. Isn't that awesome?
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I thought you guys, you little dog heads might like that. God, that's really good. Willi's Name of the Week. Willi's Name of the Week. Ready? Willi, Willi, Willi, Willi's Name of the Week. Willi, Willi, Willi, Willi's Name of the Week. Willi, Willi, Willi, Willi's Name of the Week. People started submitting these. Playmate submitted Name of the Week.
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This is high school star wide receiver Booby Feaster. That's what they called me in middle school. Crazy. Not because I was hooking up with girls, but because I was breastfed far too long. Yeah, he's going D1 probably. He's an elite 2027 wide receiver booby feaster. I love it. Oh wait, there's a comment right there tagging me and all time names.
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Yeah, you don't know about all time names? Scroll down.
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Grendlin. Grendlin. Oh yeah, yeah. Click on the first, both of those are hysterical. Das ist nicht wahr. Das ist wahr. Du musst das zurückbringen. Ich weiß. Posten auf Accounts ist mein Job. Es ist so schwer, in meinem Freetime ein Social Media Account zu starten. TikTok, both of those blew up. The Dusty Guthrum got like 5 million views or something. So we have like 10,000 followers on TikTok.
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Jesus Christi. Wir wollen dich nicht abdecken.
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Nice. But I never post. It's only like three videos. All right, should we do Super Bowls, Super Bowl commercials or prop bets? Oh, let's do commercials. All right, tee it up, Willie. Here's a question, Rusty. What are your all-time favorite Super Bowl commercials? I like the one where it's a couple sitting in bed and the guy keeps like really, really loudly farting.
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And the wife's getting kind of mad. And then finally she has enough and she leaves and she goes sleeps on the couch. You're like, oh, what's about to happen here? And then he pulls out a bag of Doritos from out under the covers. And he said, finally, I have you all to myself. Love that.
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Have you seen the Doritos commercial where the guy loves Doritos so much that he goes and plants one in his backyard hoping to grow a Dorito plant and then he comes back to check on it and his neighbor has dug up his entire yard because he got a taste of the first one and wanted to see if there were any more buried. I like that.
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One of my favorite ones is that kid, he's climbing the tree at Lauren's. One second, she's texting.
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One of my favorites is that kid, he's climbing the tree and he falls out of the tree and he breaks his back. And so they take him to the hospital and the doctor says, you know, unfortunately your health... So they take him to the hospital and the doctor comes out and he says, unfortunately your healthcare isn't going to cover this.
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Und sie gehen nach Hause und verlieren das Haus, weil sie die Billen aus der Tasche haben müssen. Und der Vater, in einem versuchten Versuch, Geld für seine Familie zu bekommen, fährt sein Auto auf eine Brücke, um ihnen ihre Lebensinsurance zu geben. Und du denkst dir, oh mein Gott, das ist grimm. Und dann kippt es und es ist ein Exekutiver auf der Straße.
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Und er ist der Exekutiver von United Healthcare. Und er trinkt eine Zigarette und trinkt eine Margarita. Und er schaltet die Kamera an und sagt, United Healthcare, wir hassen dich. That was really fun. I like that. Okay, what about the... Oh, you know what I love? The Bud Light commercial, where Shane Gillis and Post Malone swap bodies.
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Do I have to cut all this? Is this bad?
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And then Shane Gillis in Post Malone's body immediately starts saying the N-Word. And then finds out that Post Malone isn't black and gets his ass kicked. I love that. Yeah. Oh, I like the Can I have one commercial. So it's these two kids at a lunch table. The kid pulls out his lunch and the other kid goes, Oh, can I have one? Fast forward. Now they're in high school. They're behind the building.
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Kid pulls out a pack of cigarettes. The other kid's like, Oh, can I have one? Fast forward. Now they're like old men watching the Super Bowl. One guy pulls out a 12-pack of Bud Light. The other old man goes, can I have one? And then the narrator goes, some things never change. I love that.
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How about the Pizza Hut commercial where they order delivery and they're in Pennsylvania and they accidentally put the address as 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. So the pizza gets delivered to the White House. So then they have to go on a full-blown stealth mission, break into the White House to get their pizza. So it becomes like a spy thing. I love that. Oh, I like the one where the blind guy gets lost.
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Oh, really? Okay, I'm not normally like this.
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Okay. And he's like walking around town. He like can't find out where he is. And then this like beautiful aroma. He smells this beautiful aroma and he starts following the trail. And he walks in right in time as his wife is putting down the stove for his mac and cheese. And she goes, dinner's ready. Where have you been? He just goes, I was just in the living room. Love that.
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You see this? Beer, probably. In my coffee mug it says beer, probably. It's like probably a stiff one.
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Was ist mit dem Coca-Cola-Kommerz, wo es auf den Polar Bear öffnet und er tot ist, weil wir unseren Planeten töten? Ich habe wirklich die... Ja. Ich dachte, Lauren würde das mögen, weil sie so wach ist. Ja, du bist wie ein Lib. Ich mag den, wo... Oh, sie ist hungrig. Ich habe gesprochen. Ich mag den, wo...
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I like the one where the guys desert... Can you just... Enough! Enough! Enough! I'm pitching you a commercial that doesn't exist. Ready. I like the one where the guy's on the deserted island and finally help comes and they bring all the supplies that he would need to get him nourished and stuff. Why are you looking at me like that? I'm happy.
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I'm a big fan of the one where the guy's on the deserted island and finally help comes. They've seen his prayers and they have like food and water and all the stuff that he needs and he just walks right past them and goes in the cooler and grabs a Bud Light. Love that. A few of these are for Bud Light, no? Yeah. Shouldn't they be for Friday beers? You'd think we would have thought about that.
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If I was ever a director, I would insist on having this chair. And there would be a production assistant sprinting around with a small sofa. Churches have seats that need to be able to move quickly. Churches? Church basements. Youth group. Folding chairs. Yeah, I think Loren made a good point, though. That's easy to pop up from and make notes and then get back in.
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Ricky? Yeah, he walks right past them and grabs an ice-cold Ricky. Like that. The new bird commercial, where they announce all the new feathers and birds for this year. Nice. I mean, it's not always fun, but it's just good to know. Alright, those were Super Bowl commercials that don't exist.
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These are... I think you phrased it the same way. Super Bowl is this Sunday. What are some prop bets you're going to be betting on that you think are going to win? Oh, I'm excited to bet on how many incorrect notes are sung during the national anthem. Okay, yeah. I'm going to do any time. I'm going to bet probably 50 bucks or something on any time finger up the butt during a tush push.
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Yeah, that's true. Ich dachte, die Frau im Körper von Inspektor Monkey ist hysterisch.
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It's got to happen at least once, right? Oh, I'm excited to bet on how many cliches the winning team uses during their victory speech. Gotcha. I like that. Okay. Yeah, I got Taylor Swift anytime celeb call where she gets to call one play and it's a deep fade to Hollywood Brown. It's a total diversion where they think it's going to go to Travis. I like that. Yeah.
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Oh, over under arrests made in the city of the winning team during the riot. I like that. I've got Antonio. Fuck, not Antonio Brown. He quit. He actually quit on his team and now he runs Twitter. I've got AJ Brown to read his book upside down, minus 300. I feel like that could be an easy one. There's no way he's reading that book. No. Maybe like a sentence. Why do you think he can't read well?
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I don't think that he's reading a book during the middle of an NFL game. Wait, what? He reads like a self-help book. He reads in between drives. But I'm like, the adrenaline, it would be so hard to sit and read a book. What? It's like a self-help book. Yeah. I just want to know the amount of, you bet on the amount of beer drank during the Super Bowl across the whole country. Oh.
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Wir hatten einen sehr schönen Flugzeuganwalt. Oh, sie war ein Pilot. Auch du hast gesagt, sie war ein Flugzeuganwalt. Sie hat meinen Kopf getroffen. Er ist wie ein Wurm. Er ist wie das Ding in Rogue One, das auf deinen Kopf geht und all deine Erinnerungen ausdrückt. Ich habe gestern Rogue One geschaut. Okay, sorry. Was?
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So you could like bet the over and then just like try and put the team on your back. Yeah, I like that. I've got Andy Reid to trip a guy on the sidelines and then go... Hat er das gemacht? Nein. Ich möchte nur betten, wie viel Geld auf das Spiel gewählt wurde. Du könntest das überbetten und wenn du einen Lohn von einem Millionen Dollar bekommst, könntest du es in deinem Favorit helfen.
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Ich mag das. Ich habe Mike anytime touchdown. Mein Freund Mike. Du liebst Mike. Mike check. Hast du einen Freund namens Mike? Nein, du? Nein.
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Ich habe einen. Not that close. Alright, Lauren, whose personality are you gonna steal this week? This is a weird episode. It's been a bizarre one. I'm sorry. If this is anyone's first one, they're not normally like this. I'm all jet-lagged.
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I kind of want a three-peat. It's so bizarre. I do like the Chiefs. A lot of people hate the Chiefs. I think the Taylor Swift thing was a turn-off for a lot of people, but I like her. I love Taylor, yeah. I think it's cool. I actually like the Eagles, too.
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Ich denke, ich werde diese Woche in Body Shots kommen. Ich werde mehr Body Shots machen, also stehe ich wie eine frischere Mädchen auf den Spring Break Persönlichkeit und starte mehr Body Shots.
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Do you ever see my body shots sketch? No. I go, body shots! You've never seen body shots? Maybe. Look up Willie Donnell in TikTok. Look up Willie Donnell in TikTok.
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Oh, I might borrow some bread.
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How did you get that so quickly? Because she's on her back. Yeah, yeah. Watch it. Okay. It looks like I'm hard. You're like really eager to push a woman. It does look like you're hard. Alright. Guys, we love you. Is this a Wednesday or a Monday episode? How do you never know? Can you figure it out yourself? You've not gotten this right yet once. Think about it. What's today? He has to say it.
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Have a great Tuesday and we will see you... It's Monday. Have a great Tuesday and we will see you on Wednesday for our Wednesday episode. We love you so much. I'm talking to the playmates. Yeah, but you're saying the wrong days. They're all confused. Now they're all going to go to work on Saturday.
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Make your bio like chili emoji chili emoji links here and then it's like to your book club. What if you did a private Instagram and then you only accept girls?
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Wir sind auf einem seltsamen Start. Viele Leute haben meinen LinkedIn gefunden. LinkedIn. Ich bekomme like Pitch-Submissions zu meinem LinkedIn. Oh Mann. Fuck, was noch? Wir waren in New Orleans. Wir sind gestern wieder zurückgekommen.
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Warum ist das lustig? Ich dachte nur an das Ding, das auf der Straße passiert ist. Als ich in ein Loch gestanden bin? Yeah, but the way you did, we were walking and there was like an open manhole cover. There were a lot of like, Tom and Jerry or something. There were a lot of manhole covers on the sidewalks for some reason. And one was missing. It was just a hole.
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No, no, no. It was like a manhole. Yeah. And then right next to it is a closed manhole cover. Like a city drain.
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We know what a manhole is? Just a hole. Not like a pothole. It's a hole to go into the drain. And Will is walking and he's like, hey everyone, watch out for that one. And then steps on one that's closed, but that one wasn't screwed in. And his foot went down into the drain. But it was like there was a dummy one so that you would walk on the other. There were two side by side and one was a hole.
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So I was like, oh, watch out for that one. So I stepped on the other one and my foot just went right through it. Es war wie in einem Cartoon, wenn jemand auf ein Stück Kleidung steigt und es sich auf den Kopf schwingt. Und dann, 30 Schritte später, ist er auf dem Weg und er steigt in den tiefsten Potholder aller Zeiten und hat seinen Fuß komplett im Wasser verbreitet.
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Und der Typ hinter uns sagt, oh, Will hat einen Bourbon. Wir sind auf Bourbon Street. Ich habe einen fucking Bourbon. Wir sind in der ältesten Bar im Welt. I've heard there's one in Boston that says that. I think McGillins is the oldest bar in the US, I'm pretty sure. In Philly? In Philly. Okay, that's the one we want to know. Look up oldest bar in the world without New Orleans.
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Well, it's definitely not the world. Do oldest bar in the US. Oh yeah, you're right. The White Horse Tavern in Newport, Rhode Island? Yeah, that adds up. So it's none of them. But we, so we walked in... Other old bars. Click the down on there. Click show more. Click show more. Okay. Okay, it's one of them. We'll take it. So we go in. I'm kind of doing, I'm like doing a lot of beer runs.
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We're all at one table. And so like when I get up, when I get up to get a beer, I'd get Will a Diet Coke and get... I was off at DC. Dude, he was DC'd out of his gourd. And... Ich gehe hoch und dachte mir, hey, kann ich zwei... Ich trinke Yin-Ling. Ich habe einen Yin-Ling und zwei Miller Lights. Yin-Ling. Yin-Ling. Was habe ich gesagt? Yin-Ling. Cool. Du hast einfach Yin-Ling. Ich habe Ling-ed.
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I guess it's harder to get back in. It's easier to write your name on the back. I'm not buying it. It's a great question.
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Und es gibt drei, schau dir drei Bier an, alle in diesen klaren Plastikköpfen. Kannst du es, Lauren?
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And in my head, I could do the move where you kind of hold them like this. We'll open up. Open up your eyes. Where I could hold them like this and like put enough pressure on the inside, on the outside, that they would all kind of like bind together and I could carry them. What I didn't take into, which works with glasses. I can do it with glasses.
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What I didn't account for is that plastic cups flex. And when you create that much potential energy... Sobald du loslässt, schießt es alles in die eine Kuppe, die keine Druck mehr auf dich hat. Also ist der Bartender, der mich anschaut, versuchen, das zu tun. Ja. Und er hat so einen verdammten Lächeln auf seinem Gesicht. Und ich war so, ich kann jetzt nicht aufgeben.
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Er denkt nicht, dass ich es kann, also muss ich es jetzt tun. Ja. Und ich habe den Griff des vorderen verloren. Und all die Energie, die ich gebraucht habe, ging in den vorderen Cup. Es schlug über den Bar, schlug in den Lippen und spielte in den Drain mit all seinen Pen und Napkins. Und er sagt, ja, ich habe das gesehen, das kommt von einem Meilen weg.
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I think it's an outdated... I think one guy did it and he was just really cool. Here's a follow-up question. Why does every director have to wear a baseball hat? Have you noticed when guys start directing, they're all of a sudden wearing a hat? I think that's a rule. Wie bei John Crescent. Habt ihr ihn je im Büro gesehen? In der Zwischenzeit, als er eine Hatte trägt? Er legt sie an.
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Und dann der Kerl auf der anderen Seite des Bars, weil ich gerade dem Bartender gesagt habe, wo ich von bin. He asked where we were in from. The guy across the bar is like the oldest man alive. He was there when it opened. He was there when it opened. And he just goes, people from the west coast can't drink. And the whole fucking bar erupted laughing.
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And then the bartender was like, just go bring those over. I'll make you another one. And I had to walk back into the angry mob of people to get one more Miller Lite. Das ist Showbiz, glaube ich. Das ist Showbiz. Ja. Es war viral. Was noch? New Orleans war cool. Ich liebte alle Architektur. Und ich hatte einen wirklich guten Ham-Sandwich. Oh, das war der beste Sandwich, den ich je gehabt habe.
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Ham, Cranberry-Chutney, Dukes-Mayo, Arugula, Brot.
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Es war wie ein Herb-Mayo. Es war der Nummer 1 Restaurant in Amerika. Warte, was heißt es? Der Türkei und der Wolf.
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Which I'll say the turkey was pretty good, the wolf was a little gamey.
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Yeah, that first one is it. But click on the third one. Look what it says. Bon Appetit, number one best new restaurant in America.
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That wasn't the bread we had, Lauren. Don't think about that one. We were on the way there and Will goes, yeah, you know this is the best restaurant in the world? We were like, alright. I'm just gonna let him have this one because it feels like he really believes it. No. Sorry, continue. No, no, continue. No, no, no. No, you, no, you. He just was, it was like a big claim to make.
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We were like, it feels like you're kind of setting us up for failure because there's no way it's the best restaurant in America. In the world, I think is what you said. And we had it and it was like, yeah, it's a really good sandwich. Yeah, it was a really good sandwich.
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Well, I mean, there's a question. I mean, yeah, I mean, he can and he does. He's obviously quite cross about the situation. By this point, he's sort of starting to think, well, maybe I'll kind of wind up these wars so I'm not going to need quite so much money anymore. He basically decides that he wants to rule without Parliament. It's all too much of a hassle.
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So from now on, he will try to rule England without calling another Parliament for as long as he can.
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Yeah. So, I mean, Parliament at this point is it's something which doesn't sit permanently. It only sits when the king calls it. And what he then tried to do was he tried to find new and creative ways of raising money. And in order to do this, the new ways are basically the old ways. And one of his civil servants, a guy called Sir John Burra,
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had been ferreting away in the sort of 17th century equivalent of the National Archives, which is in the Tower of London. And he'd found all these kind of crazy medieval ways of raising money and everything from attacks on beer, for example, or attacks on death or attacks on lawyers, which I think would have been quite popular.
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But the two really crucial ones were, get this, fines for people who were wealthy enough to become knights but hadn't presented themselves to become knights at the king's coronation. So he fined people for that. It's called distraint of knighthood. It's very controversial, as you can imagine.
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And the other thing he did was he found the boundaries of the old medieval forests and he found that basically they covered about a third of the country. And said, right, OK, there's all these medieval laws against building houses or having land on the forests. And said, well, you know, I know there's a massive town here now, but in 1200, this was a forest. So I'm going to fine you as well.
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And again, it was very controversial and people didn't like it very much.
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Well, ship money is a well-established or was a well-established way of raising ships for the Navy. And basically what happened was that coastal communities were told you need to provide a ship for the Royal Navy and that would protect the country. What Charles did was he he kind of rolled it out to inland counties on the fairly sensible premise that basically they get protected as well.
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And it was very, very controversial because he was essentially doing a new tax and he was doing it without parliament. The way he did it was very, very clever. He said, basically, it's an emergency. And the emergency is the French and pirates and the Turks as well. And he said, there's loads of pirates in the English Channel. They keep coming here and being a pain. So it's an emergency.
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So I need to have a tax without parliament. And people argued, well, that's all very well. But, you know, it doesn't look like that much of an emergency. There's like two pirates, mate. Come on. And he says, well, I'm the king and I get to decide when it's an emergency. Rather cleverly, he's kind of basically said in emergencies, I can have your money and I get to decide when it's an emergency.
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Therefore, I can have your money. But it seems to work. You know, he raises quite a lot of money through it.
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Yeah, it is. I mean, to be fair, I get a lot of student essays where it has been autocorrected from Armenianism to Armenianism. Or it says things like Charles I had a lot of problems with Armenians, which I think is a very, very specific form of prejudice.
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But it comes to a Dutch theologian called Arminius, and he argued for essentially a form of faith where you're not completely predestined to heaven or hell. You have a certain amount of free will. And that then kind of ties into this English idea of ceremonialism. And, you know, again... interior design, putting the altar, putting the holy table at the East End.
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And it's connected by this sort of clumsy guy from Reading who is sort of a bit like a kind of short version of Ricky Gervais, who just alienates everyone, called William Lord. And he became the Archbishop of Canterbury. And he was very, very controversial because, you know, the Calvinists and the Puritans didn't like it very much.
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John, why is Peter Titley fun? Well, because he liked to bow and do all this kind of stuff so much that he would fall over and drop the prayer book and all this kind of stuff. And, you know, this was all in the name of decorum, of course.
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Well, basically what the king did in 1633 is said on the Sunday, these are the sports you can play. Puritans thought you could play no sports on the Sunday. They're like, you know, the very fact that you're suggesting we can play sports on the Sunday is entirely offensive.
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And Charles basically had all his ministers, all his clergymen around the country, they were forced to read this thing called the Book of Sports, which basically said these are the sports you can play. And if you're a Puritan minister, you were deeply offended by this. And some of them had clever ways of getting around it.
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So, for example, they would read it out before anyone had turned up in church. Oh, nice. Or there was one guy who read it out and then read the Ten Commandments and said, you've now heard the laws of God and the laws of the king. You can choose which one you obey. Wow. OK. Strong, that.
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So these sports are, we've got dancing. Yeah, so Morris dancing is very politicised. It's a kind of angry, radical form of dance.
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Dancing with Mao's Little Red. But one of my favourite ones is a kind of set of sports that are still with us today, which are the Cotswold Olympics. which was set up by a guy called Robert Dover. And it was a specific way of annoying the local Puritans because he was really trying to rub their noses in it.
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But he made sure it was all very hierarchical and it all kind of fitted the social hierarchy. So, you know, the rich would do things like hunting and shooting, whereas the peasants would basically do something called shin kicking, which sounds pretty horrible, to be honest.
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Root cause, it is inflation. There's a big growth in population. That means that there's more mouths to feed. There's also a series of really bad harvests from about 1628 onwards that led to food riots. There's also this kind of the fences, the enclosure that we talked about earlier.
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There's a big series of riots, particularly in the West, the Forest of Dean, led by a man who goes around dressed as a woman. There's a series of very, very significant riots there. There's a sense in the 1630s that the social order is really kind of fraying. There's a lot of anger out there.
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So one theory is that it's a disguise. The other is that the authorities tend to be a lot gentler to women rioters than men, although that doesn't really work because when they captured him, they would have probably found out quite quickly. The best explanation is that it represents this idea of the world turned upside down.
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Basically, the enclosers, the people who are taking this land away from the poor, are people who are overturning the social order. And it's a way of mocking that. It's a way of saying, you know... If you take away our land, you might as well have men dress as women, and that really would overturn the social order kind of thing. It's a very conservative society in lots of ways.
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Yeah, I mean, it's unusual that she was treated very, very harshly. It's very unusual for food rioters to be hanged in this period. And she was treated very, very harshly. And I think it is partly because there is this kind of political crisis and people are kind of basically saying, well, this is more serious now because of the political crisis.
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Yeah. And one of the things about the 1630s, which becomes very, very controversial, particularly later, is the strong control of the press by the government. So, for example, there is a decree against printed material in 1637. And there are a series of really quite nasty prosecutions for sedition. One of the earliest is a guy called Alexander Leighton.
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who's a Scot and writes about bishops in such a way that the king doesn't like. So he ends up being put in the pillory in a snowstorm just to make it worse. He had his ears cut off. He had one of his ears cut off. He was whipped and then thrown in prison. And he was forced to kind of sit in a prison cell with rats and mice for 10 years.
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And by the time he was released by Parliament, he was basically a complete mess, as you would be.
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Yes, I mean, women were very much involved in protests, particularly about food, because that was seen as kind of in women's domain. And so you would often see women leading food riots. There's also people like Lady Eleanor Davis, who's a really interesting character.
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She was an aristocratic lady and she began making prophecies early in the 17th century, including prophesying that her husband would die. He was a bit cross. He was... He was a bit cross about this and ended up sort of burning her papers. And then she had another husband who also burnt her papers. So she was quite sort of, you know, she ran up against the patriarchy, shall we say.
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And then in the 1630s, she found herself angry about William Lord. And at one point she went into Litchfield Cathedral and she poured a vat of boiling tar over the communion table because she thought it was in the wrong place for which she was sent to bedlam. which was a mental asylum and eventually the tower, although she was released eventually. So, yeah, women are very much involved in protest.
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Religion is one thing that women often end up protesting about. They're definitely part of the political nation in this period.
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Yes, and Charles saw himself as having what he called an imperial crown. So it was his duty to impose his ideas, his religion on Ireland and on Scotland. In Scotland, initially, it ran into a lot of difficulty. In 1637, Charles tried to impose Lordianism on Scotland. Scotland was particularly... anti this kind of thing. They particularly like their communion tables in the middle of the church.
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And so when a new prayer book was used in Edinburgh by the Dean of Edinburgh, apparently, according to legend, an Edinburgh woman called Jenny Geddes stood up and flung her stool at the Dean of Edinburgh before he was chased out of the city by a mob. That then led to the conditions of a massive rebellion in Scotland.
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And in 1638, the Scots en masse signed this thing called the Scottish National Covenant, where they basically said that they would protect their church, their kirk. They became called Covenanters. Charles agreed to convene an assembly of the kirk and a Scottish parliament, and they then abolished bishops. So they basically said, oh, thank you for a nice assembly.
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We're going to really go whole hog. And one of the things that Charles's father had said was no bishops, no king. He thought the bishops were absolutely central to the institution of the monarchy. And Charles agreed. So it's a real two fingers.
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Causes of the British Civil Wars: Royalists versus Parliamentarians
Funnily enough, Greg, I had exactly the same conversation with my editor a couple of years ago. Sadly, the possibly apocryphal Jenny Gedds had a, I think, I'm assuming, a kind of three-pronged piece of wooden furniture, picked it up and lobbed it at the Dean, saying something along the lines of, don't say mass in my lug, which is great. I love the word lug. It's good.
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Causes of the British Civil Wars: Royalists versus Parliamentarians
But no, it wasn't poo, I'm afraid. Sorry.
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Causes of the British Civil Wars: Royalists versus Parliamentarians
It was settled by a chess game. It was for and against. So Charles was fighting on the side of his bishops. The Scots were fighting against his bishops and Charles was trying to protect the bishops. The Scottish were trying to bash the bishops. It led to a plan by Charles to invade Scotland and it all went terribly badly wrong. By March 1639, the Covenant had seized most Scottish strongholds.
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Causes of the British Civil Wars: Royalists versus Parliamentarians
The King's soldiers under the Marquess of Hamilton met really, really tough resistance, including Hamilton's own mother. His mother, Anne, apparently was seen on a beach when he was trying to land, saying, if my son lands, I will shoot him myself with a pistol. So some family issues going on there.
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Causes of the British Civil Wars: Royalists versus Parliamentarians
i don't know what to say but that's my mum isn't it please don't don't don't kill her all right and he changed sides eventually he eventually did come out to the government so maybe maybe it worked maybe it worked eventually um it ends in a truce because the scots managed to kind of array their soldiers out to look like they had a lot more um and charles happened to be looking at them through a telescope and sort of went oh shit um they've got
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Causes of the British Civil Wars: Royalists versus Parliamentarians
More soldiers than I thought. And so eventually there was a truce, although it was always very much in bad faith. Charles was always planning to fight again.
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Causes of the British Civil Wars: Royalists versus Parliamentarians
Yeah, but also he can't dissolve it because he needs money. LAUGHTER They also then passed an act called the Triennial Act, which is terribly important, which says Parliament must sit every three years. And if it doesn't, if the king doesn't call it, then leading kind of lawyers and politicians can call it anyway.
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Causes of the British Civil Wars: Royalists versus Parliamentarians
And that is a massive constitutional revolution because previously Parliament had always been called by the king. That was the only way it could be called. And now they're saying Parliament is permanent and it can be called even if the king doesn't.
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Causes of the British Civil Wars: Royalists versus Parliamentarians
Yeah, I mean, Cromwell's basically a backbench MP from Cambridge. He's virtually, you know, very, very little significance at all. Pym is this kind of long standing, incredibly politically savvy guy. He is an absolute master of political timing and he is particularly good at organising committees. So it really is the thick of it. Like, you know, he's.
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Causes of the British Civil Wars: Royalists versus Parliamentarians
He's kind of Malcolm Tucker, but put in Parliament. He's incredibly clever. He's incredibly sophisticated and has this kind of group of MPs and peers who support him and want to reform the state.
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Causes of the British Civil Wars: Royalists versus Parliamentarians
No, no, his enemies. Oh, really? Yeah, so it's a kind of, it suggests that he wants to become king. He's ambitious. He's a traitor. So it's very much an insult. And when you hear it, it's normally someone in a pub in London saying, ah, that King Pim, I hope he gets fried in his own grease kind of thing. Oh, lovely. It's not his friends.
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Yeah. So after the execution of Stratford, I mean, literally the day of the execution of Stratford, Charles met with his negotiators from Scotland and they said he's surprisingly cheery for someone who's just had his lead advisor beheaded. And the reason was that Charles, in the summer of 1641, had decided to go to Scotland... and try and win power there.
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Causes of the British Civil Wars: Royalists versus Parliamentarians
And to do that, he engaged in plotting to try and have his enemies arrested and possibly killed. Meanwhile, in Ireland, which of course had been subject to British colonial rule for decades now, was suddenly kind of bubbling up into rebellion. And the issue was that, or one of the kind of immediate issues was, was that Stratford had created this army, of Irish Catholics.
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Causes of the British Civil Wars: Royalists versus Parliamentarians
And then he'd been beheaded and the army was left with nothing to do. There was a plan to give it to Spain and to France, but parliament were a bit reluctant to that. So essentially it just kind of sat there. And then these people became, these disbanded soldiers became very, very angry and that kind of fed into a rebellion. And in October,
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1641, it all kind of explodes with this plot to take Dublin Castle, which is betrayed, and then a huge uprising in Ulster, which quickly gets out of hand. And there are reports of massacres, really quite nasty bloodshed. And some of them are true, but also they're massively exaggerated by the English press. And that then creates a really kind of tense situation going into the end of 1641.
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Well, so it's basically a big document with 204 clauses. It's huge, which basically says what was wrong with Charles's rule, what we've done about it and how we're good and what we still need to do about it. And essentially, the kind of implication is that because Charles's government was so bad, we as Parliament need to take control over that government.
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Well, we're going to look at the period 1625 to 1642. So that's from the start of Charles's reign to the moment when it all kind of falls apart and the Civil War begins in England. But we're going to start with James I as well, because some of the things that we'll be thinking about will date back to the predecessor of Charles, his father.
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We need to have control over the appointment of government officers. So people like the Lord Treasurer, all those kind of things. And that's the implication. It's hugely, hugely controversial. MPs sit up until 2am in the morning debating it. Eventually it passes by a whisker because there's lots and lots of opposition to Pym in Parliament by this point.
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And then there's a kind of huge argument about whether it can be printed. And it ends up with Parliament saying that it can be published, but not printed. So immediately people are sent away to sort of make these manuscript copies, which are then sold in London.
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Causes of the British Civil Wars: Royalists versus Parliamentarians
But it's a moment where... And the really important thing, I think, about the Grand Remonstrance is it's a moment where it's clear that in Parliament itself, in the House of Commons in particular... MPs are divided. There are royalists and there are parliamentarians and it's a split down the middle. That hadn't been the case in 1640. It had been much more unified in opposition.
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So now we're getting closer to a situation where the political nation is divided and that can then lead to civil war.
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Causes of the British Civil Wars: Royalists versus Parliamentarians
Well, so the first thing that Charles did was he accused them publicly in the House of Lords on the 3rd of January and he accused five MPs and one peer. And the Lords were supposed to then say, yep, fine, we'll have them all arrested and we'll impound their papers because that will give incriminating evidence.
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Instead, the Lords say, actually, we think you've done this the wrong way because you've used a particular procedure which we don't think is correct. So Charles goes home. in a bit of a sort of, you know, a bit of a fuss. And then at some point he decides that the next day he will gather about sort of 500 armed cavaliers, march down to Westminster from Whitehall, and he will pull them out himself.
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Causes of the British Civil Wars: Royalists versus Parliamentarians
He will have the five MPs arrested. And so that's what he did. But by the time he got there, they'd run away. And the reason was that they knew he was coming. They'd had a series of warnings, one of which probably came from someone called Lady Carlisle, Lucy Hay, who was a courtier, one of Henrietta Maria's ladies-in-waiting, but who was also connected to him and his group.
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Causes of the British Civil Wars: Royalists versus Parliamentarians
Anyway, they kind of fled and went by boat into London and Charles kind of... sort of, oh, I can see my birds have flown and then went off again in a huff. The 4th of January, when this happened, was an utterly shocking moment for the country because Charles had basically taken an armed gang down to Parliament and threatened to arrest them.
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Now, he hadn't done it, he hadn't massacred them, but they thought he was within a whisker of basically having loads of MPs shot. It was a hugely, hugely shocking moment for the political nation.
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Well, I think, I mean, by this point, it's much more split down the middle. I mean, a lot of people are angry at the king, but there's a lot of people who are still loyal. And basically what happens is that both sides say we need to defend ourselves from the other side. So Parliament raises the militia and does so without the assent of the king, which they'd never done before.
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Whereas Charles used something called the commissions of array, which was a medieval way of getting people to come out together. to, you know, slay and kill people who were attacking the king. And both sides are raising these defensive forces. At the same time, they're saying, well, we're only doing it because the other side is raising forces.
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Causes of the British Civil Wars: Royalists versus Parliamentarians
And eventually that then cascades into the next step, which is to actually raise armies. But before then, Parliament had put together another document... which sounds a bit less like a ballroom dance, I reckon. The 19 propositions, or maybe it does. The 19 propositions, which basically is another attempt to say, look, things have got bad.
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Causes of the British Civil Wars: Royalists versus Parliamentarians
The way that we solve this is we get control of the government. We take it away from the king. We get control of the militia. And of course, there's no way that Charles would agree to this. It's two political positions which are very much apart.
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So James I was very short of money and that created an awful lot of problems and in particular it created a lot of problems in his relationship with Parliament because the assumption was at this time that for the King to take people's money they had to give consent to it in Parliament, which met when the King wanted it to and
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And that then, again, sort of feeds into this arming, creation of armies, by which and by the summer, basically, Charles has decided that it's all gone too far. The only way I can deal with this is to declare war on the rebels, as he calls them, on the Earl of Essex, their leader. And that's why he went to Nottingham and raised his standard on the 22nd of August. Yeah.
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Yeah, he just really hates Leicester. He wanted to give a bit of just a bit of a bit of trade to that. I mean, he does. I mean, one of the things that Charles was executed for was for laying waste to Leicester. That was literally in the charge against him. But no, it's because it's right in the centre of London. A bit of metropolitan elite there.
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It was right in the centre of the country and it was a great base for raising troops in the Midlands and also possibly going over towards Wales where Charles knew that he had a lot of support.
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Causes of the British Civil Wars: Royalists versus Parliamentarians
We're the BBC, so we need balance. So yeah, I'll be a parliamentarian on this one, I think.
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Causes of the British Civil Wars: Royalists versus Parliamentarians
But the trouble is that when James called parliaments, they tended to want grievances to be addressed. So there's that. He's short of money. It's a kind of perennial thing for the English and the British government. There's also a huge amount of kind of social stress in England at this period. There's been a long period of population growth. It means that people can't get on the housing ladder.
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So, I mean, it's very easy when you're thinking about the British Civil Wars to think that it's basically all Charles I's fault, and lots of historians think that's the case. I'm not saying he's a success by any stretch of the imagination. He toys with militarism, he toys with authoritarianism, he marches to Parliament with an armed gang. He basically does mess things up quite significantly.
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There's nothing which says that he has to impose his prayer book on Scotland. Nonetheless, I think one of the things that's really important to have in mind is the fact that there are these really kind of deep level problems in the country at the time. We talked a bit about inflation and all this kind of stuff, and that makes it much harder to run a government.
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We talked a little bit about unemployment. Social pressures. And again, that makes it much harder to rule the country. But also, you know, these kind of issues with Parliament are based on really kind of longstanding ideological differences. There are people who believe the king can kind of do what he wants. And there are people who believe that the king is much more restricted.
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It's very, very hard to rule the country which thinks intelligently about these issues and comes to different conclusions. And it's the same with religion. The country, it's complex the way it thinks about religion. There are Catholics, there are Puritans, there are Protestants in the middle. And it's very, very, very hard to run one country like that, let alone three.
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And remember that Scotland is more Protestant, more Puritan than England and Ireland is mostly Catholic. So it's very, very hard for Charles. So, again, I think with the Civil War, it's really, really important not to just pin this on one hopeless guy. And I'm not saying he's not hopeless, but it's important to think of other things that are going on. He's dealt a very, very difficult hand.
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Food prices are very, very high. There's a series of riots in 1607. This sounds familiar. Yeah.
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Causes of the British Civil Wars: Royalists versus Parliamentarians
During these riots in 1607 in the Midlands, people threw down fences, which may feel like a little bit of a kind of random thing to do, but these were enclosures which had kind of fenced people out of land. And to do that, they had to level the fences and they had to dig. They used spades to dig. So they took the names levellers and diggers.
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Causes of the British Civil Wars: Royalists versus Parliamentarians
And that then, later in the 17th century, they became the names applied to radical, democratic and indeed communist groups.
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Causes of the British Civil Wars: Royalists versus Parliamentarians
And there's a lot of religious issues which have hung over from the Reformation.
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Yeah, so Charles went on this kind of long and entirely kind of daft trip to Madrid where he basically kind of popped up in the Spanish court and tried to get the Infanta to marry him. And the King of Spain said no. And so he went home and he was absolutely mad about this. So he persuaded his father to join a war against Spain.
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If a woman says no to declare war on an entire country. I mean, the incel thing, it sounds flippant, but people thought that Charles was so sexually repressed that he had something called the green sickness, which kind of made him ill because he wasn't getting enough sex. So I'm going to get letters for this. But maybe he was the first incel. Who knows?
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Yeah, I mean, he doesn't take after his father, though. I mean, one of the first things he does is he tries to clean up his court and make it a little bit less debauched. I mean, he was terribly offended by the sort of drinking and the pissing and the shitting that had gone on under his father. So he did try and clean that up.
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But the issue of tax, you know, those phantom menace issues, let's call them that... It didn't go away and completely poisoned Charles's relationship with Parliament because he basically sort of says, well, you know, there's a war. I really should be able to just take your money. But Parliament says, well, actually, we have to vote it to you.
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And before we do that, we want you to address these grievances that we have.
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Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of anti-Catholicism in England at this point. It's not helped by the fact that in the church, there's a group which Charles rather likes who want to create a much more elaborate church with lots more sort of, you know, we'd call it high church, I guess.
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Yeah, he's married to a French Catholic and he's also, and this is a Mary and George thing, he's also still really intertwined with the Duke of Buckingham, who Parliament see as a thoroughly bad thing. They see him as corrupt. They see him as an upstart. They see him as very, very dangerous.
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Well, I mean, to the English common law mindset, it was distinctly filthy because it was a way that the crowd... and tried to take money without gaining consent from Parliament. Tonnage and poundage, as funny as it sounds, is apparently kind of, you know, it's a tax on imports and exports. And traditionally, Parliament had always granted it to the monarch at the start of their reign for life.
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But under Charles I, Parliament says you can have it for a year. And then we're going to kind of have another look and see if everything kind of tracks and everything's OK. And then it expired. So Charles was faced with a bit of a problem, which is that he suddenly lost this source of income.
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And he approached that problem in the most direct way you probably could, which is that he just collects it anyway. So parliamentarians, lawyers sort of think, well, this is sort of a little bit illegal, isn't it? Yeah.
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Yes. So the soldiers turn up to this castle to try and take it and they get out of their boats and they get out these ladders, which they've brought along to scale the walls. And they discover that they're too short. So they all get killed. And it is another another disaster. Buckingham, at this point, he's been impeached by Parliament and that's not worked.
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So in the end, the Buckingham problem is solved by assassination. He makes the mistake of going to Portsmouth. And he goes to an inn in Portsmouth. And as he comes out of that inn in Portsmouth, he is stabbed by a person called John Felton. I mean, it's one of these kind of dramatic scenes. As he was stabbed, no one could see who did it.
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And someone saw it and thought, assumed it was a French person because, you know, this is French. So they shouted out, a Frenchman, a Frenchman.
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I mean, what are they basing that on? Stabbed him with a baguette. But the actual stabber and the actual murderer, John Felton, thought they were saying his name. They said, Frenchman, Frenchman. He thought they were saying Felton. So instead of running away, he turned back and said, yes, was I. And they grabbed him and hung Drew and caught him. So it came to a grim end for him as well.
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I mean, you'd hope so, but no. And they've had a recent controversy over something called the petition of rights, whereby Parliament basically says non-parliamentary taxation is illegal. Charles eventually signs it or eventually gives his assent, but fudges it. And then they go back to arguing about punnage and townage and eventually end up also fighting about religion.
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There's this group within the English church which wants much more kind of high church, ceremonial smells, you know, that kind of thing. They are very much in the ascendancy. Charles likes them very, very much. MPs within Parliament got very angry about that because they saw it as a return to Catholicism and they started to challenge Charles in Parliament.
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Causes of the British Civil Wars: Royalists versus Parliamentarians
There's more sort of ceremony. There's a lot less focus on private prayer, listening to sermons. One of the biggest things is that the communion table, which in the English church at this period was traditionally in the middle, so it's kind of accessible to everyone, gets railed off and put at the east end.
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It's sort of protected, but also that looks like a Catholic altar and this is very offensive to quite a lot of people. Right.
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It is. And basically what he's doing is he's looking at the European scene and he's seeing that in France and in Spain, monarchs are at this point trying to rule increasingly without parliament. And he thinks that England will go down this route as well. Essentially, the monarchy is starting to look very, very authoritarian and parliament really kind of fights back against this.
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Yeah, he basically adjourns Parliament as a kind of prelude to dissolving it. But when he sends his messenger to the House of Commons, they basically bar the door so he can't get in. And they hold the speaker down in his chair for like an hour. And while they do that, MPs pass a series of resolutions, basically saying that if you support all this kind of stuff, you are a traitor.
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And at this time, it's one of these kind of very dramatic moments where MPs, because of course the MPs would all wear swords at this point. So they're all grabbing their swords and they're sort of banging them on the floor and they start calling each other patriots and royalists. So you start to get these kind of party labels, if you like. It's very disorderly scenes. Great fun.