Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1042 | Jase Goes Wide-Eyed at Alternate Realities in the Bible & 2 Super Awkward Bible Misquotes
Mon, 17 Feb 2025
Jase poses the idea that the love of Jesus is contagious, and Jesus drops a nugget in John that suggests he has a grasp of alternate realities. Al illustrates how an incorrect verse reference can wreak havoc and confusion, and the guys answer a question about how humanity will recognize Jesus at the end of time when Heaven becomes our eternal home. In this episode: John 4, verse 18, John 14, verse 23; 1 John 4, verse 18 — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is the central theme of the Bible study in this episode?
I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashamed. We're finally getting back to our study today in the book of John. And Jason, it was funny because I was at an event recently and I was signing books. And so, you know, we've written a few different books and I've contributed to other ones. So I've always tried to come up with like a unique verse for every book.
You know, the kind of whatever the verse is I write. Kind of fits the theme of the book, you know? And so problem is when you write several books, you sometimes forget what the verse is for the right book. So it causes me to have to think a second before I do it. And so I was telling this guy, we were saying, we have a book called desperate forgiveness.
And so I found this verse in Luke 747 where the woman is at Jesus' feet, and he looks at her, looks at Simon, who's judging her, the Pharisee, and he says, to the one who has been forgiven much, they will love much. And so that's Luke 747. So that was what I was going to sign in the book. But when we first came out with the book, I was signing John.
Just, you know, one little, yeah, I want you to look it up because it has quite a different message than Luke 747. So what does it say? John 747. It says, you mean he has deceived you also? The Pharisee retorted, which I don't know retorted is even in the Bible anywhere with this verse. So I did it for several books and nobody ever said anything. I never heard back from anybody.
And this book was new. And then finally, our old friend, Bob DeMoss, Sent me a note and said, hey, congrats on your new book. And he said, what did you mean, though, the reference in John 747? He has deceived you as well, which was so funny. And I was just laughing. I was like, oh, man. So I texted him back. I said, what do you think I meant by that? How many people got that? Probably 300 people.
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Chapter 2: What are the consequences of misquoting Bible verses?
So I'm sure someone... Oh, you've wrecked.
I'm sure someone... 300 people out there just wrecked because they're thinking, what have I done?
Someone out there in the understanding of the nation. But Alex sent me this. So this happened to someone else. This was someone who... was asked to read a text at a wedding. I thought it was appropriate since we're in the book of John. And the text this person was supposed to read is 1 John 4, 18, which says, There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear.
For fear has to do with punishment. Whoever fears has not been perfected in love. And so that's the verse they were supposed to read. Well, what they actually read was John... 418, which again had quite the different meaning. James, you want to read John 418? So not the perfect love. Instead, read it, James.
John 418 says, the fact is you've had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband. What you have said is quite true.
So that actually happened. And someone's wedding. Could you imagine this person reading that text and everybody looking around each other thinking, what does that have to do? That's kind of a sick joke here, Al.
I'm telling you, these are things that actually happen. You've got to be perfect. prepared when you go in, you know what I mean? You need to know what you're writing down.
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Chapter 3: How do we recognize Jesus at the end of time?
Well, I think the point is these numbers, they were created just so people could keep up with it. They were not written in this format.
Yeah. When John wrote his letters, he didn't say, you know, I think I'll call this one First John.
Well, it's like when Trump called, you know, Corinthians, Two Corinthians, which a lot of people do that. Right. They were like, oh, he's mispronouncing. Yeah. Because you say, I mean, I say 2 Corinthians. But I've heard a lot of preachers say 2 Corinthians. Yeah. But I've noticed most of them are not from this country. Right. So I don't know. Where to go with that?
But the bottom line is it's about a person. So maybe there's some truth in there. That's why I don't like these sermons that just go, these sermon series that just, when people say, hey, we go text by text, verse by verse. But sometimes you miss the big picture doing that.
It's called expository preaching. We preach expository, but we also will take...
time when we will do like a series like we're going through the book of mark but then we took a break to go into who is god so we had four weeks just on kind of like the doctrine of god who is god who is he and i think it's helpful i think it's both are helpful well james baines have a good point it's called exegetical preaching no exegetical is to oh here we go battle of words
Well, exegesis versus isegesis. Exegesis is I'm pulling out of the text what the text says. Isogesis is I'm reading into the text what I want it to say.
Well, let's make a deal. Drop the iso and the exa, and let's just talk about Jesus.
I'm ready. Y'all waiting on me. You're backing up. This is a joke.
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Chapter 4: What is the significance of Jesus' question, 'What do you want?'
Chapter 5: How does understanding love relate to our relationship with God?
Are you sure this is what we're supposed to be doing? It reminds me of that song, you know, you're still the one. Are you still the one? Right. You're still the one. So... These two disciples who we've, I guess we've deemed Peter and maybe John.
Well, Andrew and John originally, and then Andrew went to tell Peter.
Andrew and John, then they went and got Peter. Right. But all he says is he turns around and says, what do you want? And they said, where are you staying? Where are you staying? which they didn't answer the question, which I think it goes to our basic humanity. We're embarrassed that we're stalking people. I mean, the answer should have been, we wanted to know if you are the Messiah.
Because that's what they'd heard. Yeah. And that's what John had told them, John the Baptist. Normal human beings don't like confrontation or conflict, so they were a little deceitful.
Yeah.
Of course, so then it gets into this.
And we didn't talk about it, Jase, but it's interesting that they immediately called him rabbi. which would have put him in a different category in terms of how they viewed people. I mean, they, and I don't know that we, this is the first time we see him call this.
So I don't know if like Jesus's walk up until this point, if it was just his reputation or what, but he certainly didn't come through the hierarchy of, you know, and rabbinical teachings. I mean, they had schools. We know the school of Gamal that Paul went to. So he didn't go through any of those things.
And yet, simply, I'm assuming by the sheer force of his life and who he was and his reputation. Well, John the Baptist's recommendation. Right.
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Chapter 6: What does the Bible say about finding and seeking?
Chapter 7: How does the context of Jesus' teachings change our perception?
yeah and it was all of a sudden it was like wait you want me to go to talk to gentiles i mean like yeah that's that's the place you got to get to it was probably progressive um there's a great christian writer probably the great one of the greatest christian minds in history in terms of just from the standpoint of they contributed a lot to the christian faith was thomas aquinas and he wrote uh
I would call it a magnus opus. It's one of the core texts and books for Western Christian thought. It's hailed as like, this is one of the greatest works ever. And at the end of it, I find this interesting. He wrote the whole thing and he's at the very end of it. He said that he had a beatific vision, a beautiful vision of Christ that made all of his writings seem like straw.
And I think there's a lot of like, that's, that's the posture that I think when you're really with Jesus, like when you're with him and you're following him, you, all of our formulas, all of our, and I'm not to say doctrine doesn't matter. Of course it does, man. When you start thinking about who God is, I mean, really, whatever we think we figured out is about that small. It's just rubbish.
It's rubbish compared to who He is. And I think that's the transformation, and that is, I would say, Jace, is the vocation. The vocation is to be transformed into the image of the Son.
Well, I do think, and I agree, which Romans 8 says that, but... Al brings up a good point because subtly it's kind of like, well, who's choosing who here? Yeah. Which now later on in John 15, you remember what he says? He's like, you didn't choose me, but I chose you. Right. Well, because here you're like, well, they're following him. Yeah. And he's like, what do you want?
But remember what he says, I chose you to go and bear fruit. So it's like, well, there's that mission again. I have a job for you. That's why when you brought up Peter, because it's a struggle to say, well, a lot of religious people, they're like, well, see, he saved them right here because he chose them. And they're looking at it from purely, what's one of your words? Justification type.
But it's like, well, I'll make you fishers of men when you tie in what Mark does. And they're actually repeating what he just said when he said, come and see. When they said, where are you staying? He's like, come and see. What's fascinating is when you read the next paragraph, well, then you see them – Doing what he did.
Yeah.
Because he says the next day, this is in verse 43, Jesus decided to leave for Galilee. There's your word again. finding Philip, he said to him, follow me. So who's being found here? Yeah, exactly.
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