Video Gamers Podcast
Bungie's Blunder, Switch 2 Smackdown and Gamers Gonna Gamer - Gaming Podcast
Thu, 22 May 2025
Gaming hosts Josh, Ryan and John are breaking down this week’s video game news you need to know about. Bungie makes a HUGE gaming blunder at the worst possible time, Nintendo can brick your Switch 2, and gamers take advantage of the Darth Vader AI in Fortnite. All that plus more! It’s another gaming packed episode from the Video Gamers Podcast! Thanks to our MYTHIC supporters: Redletter, Disratory, Ol’ Jake, Gaius and Phelps Connect with the show: Support us on Patreon: patreon.com/videogamerspod Join our Gaming Community: https://discord.gg/Dsx2rgEEbz Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/videogamerspod/ Follow us on X: https://twitter.com/VideoGamersPod Subscribe to us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@VideoGamersPod?sub_confirmation=1 Visit us on the web: https://videogamerspod.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What major blunder did Bungie make?
Hello, fellow gamers, and welcome to the Video Gamers Podcast. There's nothing quite like gaming drama to get gamers fired up, and this week we've got the tea on Nintendo and Bungie, and word on the streets is things might get heated. But before the fireworks start, some introductions are in order. I am your host, Josh.
And joining me, you can find him trying to trick Darth Vader into saying, May the fart be with you. It's Ryan.
I didn't even think about that. But I saw him the other day, and I was pretty excited and messed around with Vader.
Yeah, we'll get to Vader here in a little bit. And joining us, Rockstar might be saying Grand Theft Auto 6 will be the best thing the world's ever seen, but he says the same thing every morning to his bathroom mirror. It's John.
That is not entirely inaccurate. Wake up, Flex. Doing all right today, man. Doing good, old man.
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Chapter 2: What are the concerns regarding Nintendo's Switch 2?
Looks like I lost a little bit of water weight overnight. Oh, boy, guys, this is we got some drama. We have not only do we have some drama, we got a lot of drama to talk about this week, man. You know, some weeks we got all kinds of like awesome game trailers to talk about game reveals, you know, other stuff. This week, the gaming world has just decided we didn't have enough drama, guys.
You know what? We're going to be talking about theft of artwork and Bungie. We're going to be talking about Nintendo and the Switch 2 and a crazy thing that they might be doing. We're going to talk about how gamers trick AI and try to interact with Darth Vader. We're even going to talk about...
like meeting your loved your your deceased loved ones in vr man like oh this is this is gonna be an interesting show if nothing else man because these are some interesting kind of deep subjects but hey man this is what the gaming world is a buzz about we kind of started talking about some of this before recording because it's definitely uh people have various opinions on a lot of these things too so i'll tell you what let's just get to it boys
Nintendo, we've been talking about Nintendo a lot lately.
We are. And hold on. I think the way you guys always go at it, I think there should be kind of like an announcement and you guys can just face off and go at it however you want to do it. But I will give you a little intro here for you guys. So. In the red corner, the Nintendo sympathizer who specializes in using logic and reason to defend the almighty Nintendo, it's John!
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Chapter 3: How are gamers using Darth Vader AI in Fortnite?
I got it. I'm a fighting, scrapping, Nintendo-loving machine. You got nothing on me, Josh. I got you.
And in the blue corner, he specializes in using excitement and being loud to prove his point and is an anti-establishment fighter known as Josh.
Get your hands out of my pockets, Nintendo. Quit trying to rob me blind. If I bought it, it's mine.
That's it, you're bricked. Okay, so Ryan, let's get a little context on the nature of this argument here. What are we arguing about?
So, you know, in all Nintendo's glory, they decide to just, you know, do something a little bit more crazy. Again, you know, have you guys ever, you know, heard of your friends, family, people that you know that like to just do a little bit of mods to systems, change things a little bit? You know, it's your property. You bought it. You can do what you want with it, right? Yep. If you want.
Not according to all glory to Nintendo. They will now brick your system, making it essentially a paperweight if you violate their terms of service and agreement, which they recently altered.
Oh, my goodness.
Okay. Shall I open? No, please. So, first of all, this type of thing is not unheard of. If you buy and own a firearm and add a bump stock in most states, that is illegal. You get that removed. If you were to buy and own a vehicle and you put in an unsafe brake system, that would no longer be a legal situation. With Nintendo... You are not just buying a Switch. You're not just buying a console.
You are buying a ecosystem that Nintendo helps to supply. You may own that physical device, but when you begin to alter that physical device, you become a potential liability to the community that you're buying into. And there's the practical concern, the very practical concern that I will take
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Chapter 4: What is the controversy over modifying gaming consoles?
If you should complain, even if it is your fault or not, I want to jump into already. Please.
I'm like, I'm like, first of all, corporate sympathizer company, man.
Okay. Allow me to address your first two points. When you buy a bump stock, you are making a weapon more lethal than it is intended to be to a wider number of people. Potential, in this case, people. This is why bump stocks are outlawed. When you modify your brakes, you are saying that you are making your vehicle unsafe towards other people.
So there are safety concerns with these sorts of things.
And those are both federal and state level issues as well, not a private entity.
And those issues are there for the safety of the common people to protect them against these sorts of modifications causing damage and bodily harm to other people. If I buy a car and I want to put... whatever leather seats in my car or modify it with a cold air filter, put nitro boost on it, whatever. That's my car. I paid for it. I own it. It's mine.
I can do whatever the heck I want to do to it. If I want to roll it with house paint to change the color of it, I can do that because it's mine. I own it. Now, if I break it in that process and I take my car to the dealership and I say, hey, man, my car's not working right. And they open it up and they're like, Dude, you modified this. This isn't covered under warranty.
I'm going to go, oh, yeah, you're right, because your warranty specifically implies what's covered and isn't covered. So if I screw it up, that's my fault. But to say that I am purchasing something, but I am not purchasing the physical product at that point. I am purchasing the rights to use this product, which is what Nintendo was saying. That is shady, scummy.
Now I feel like I'm at the used car lot with the guy that's slapping the hood going, this baby gets 50 miles to the gallon if you get out and push. You know, like... What the heck is Nintendo doing, man? They are so anti-consumer at this point. Nintendo. That is absolutely not. Oh, they absolutely are.
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Chapter 5: How does Nintendo's policy affect gamers?
No, because listen, here's the thing. You can't tell me that if I buy your product that I'm not allowed to modify your product at that point. Where does it stop? Can I put a screen protector on there? Because that's modifying the product.
Josh, I used to own a business with 120 people that did $40 million a year in revenue. This is exactly what I'm talking about. When we had customers who would, for instance, put what they wanted to be a sound barrier around an HVAC unit that we put outside. Yeah. They would do it with the best of intentions. But really what they were doing was they were restricting the air exchange and the unit.
The compressor would die early. That's their fault. Okay, it's their fault. But then they would say, well, you never told me this specific thing.
Don't be an idiot.
But hold on. But your company. We're talking about a world where irons have to put a safety disclaimer on the side of the box so people don't iron their clothes while it's on their body. I do not. People are dumb. Yes, they are. Common sense doesn't exist. Like Nintendo as a company, as a big company with a target on its back working in the entertainment industry, whatever you want to call it.
has the legal right to protect its IP. The Switch ecosystem includes proprietary software, hardware, services. These things, when people start to tamper with them, circumvent built-in protections and often lead to pathways for cybersecurity problems. If nothing else, if we're not talking about physical security, we're talking about the security of people's
information the security of people's ability to play a game without having to worry about whether somebody's got like an auto aim mod or something in a multiplayer game the system is designed to work in a particular way that nintendo can monitor the safety of it and any tampering with it outside of that creates liability.
And the most important thing here is that I won't say this for like, if we're talking about hardware mods, something like more or less harmless from a consumer standpoint of people like putting in their own joysticks or buttons that have, you know, response that is more ideal for them or whatever. Like my buddy CJ modifies arcade sticks. It's like a hobby of his.
But the grand majority of people who do this stuff do it to get, like, what do they call them? They do it for, like, emulators. Most of the modding community is for it. I get why people need them. Okay. Which is theft. It's categorically theft.
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Chapter 6: What implications do terms of service have for consumers?
Yeah.
You know, you let it, it breaks and you say, Hey, I'm sorry you did this. It's not covered.
Uh, right. But if that's just because it's not an option, then, Nintendo is doing this so that there is a deterrent from people even trying. Sure. Trust me, bro. Nintendo's doing this because they're evil! They're evil!
I'm actually more on John's side than I thought I would be, though.
It is corporate responsibility. Okay. Trust me, if I was installing people's HVAC systems, and especially the guarantees that we put into our systems, we're giving people a two-year, 100% money-back guarantee. But if somebody could just mess with it and then blame it on us, that would be a problem.
I would have absolutely in a second started installing technology that broke if a customer tampered with it. If there was some key that only allowed us to modify it and therefore maintain the integrity of our own warranty and guarantee system. you can bet your bouncy booty that I would have done that 100 times out of 100.
So if this is truly because of liability issues and not Nintendo being a greedy corporate giant that has completely lost its way to gamers, then why aren't Xbox and PlayStation doing this? You don't see Xbox and PlayStation going, we're going to brick your system, losers, if you try to modify it.
It's because the... That is a newer technology. Like, for instance, the original Xbox was basically a dummy computer in a shell. Do you guys remember that? Sure, yeah.
The original Xbox. Yeah, the box, yeah.
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Chapter 7: How do companies protect their intellectual property?
The technology exists. Why aren't they doing it now?
They're not doing it now, though.
Yeah. If it's truly liability, Microsoft, I don't know which company has a higher valuation, but I'm going to assume Microsoft has a higher valuation than Nintendo. You think this would be priority one for them if it's truly a liability issue for them to go, oh my gosh, guys, we got to protect ourselves. This is absolutely 100% because they do not want people modding things.
And I get that it is a deterrent for people, but for a company to say that if you mess with it, we are going to brick it, we are going to push the little red button that nukes this system to make it unusable is absolute overreach in my opinion. And it is taking advantage of the fact that the End User License Agreement, the EULA, nobody reads these things, dude. Nobody.
How many games have you just clicked the, yeah, let me into the game button so that you can play the freaking game? This is not Nintendo being like, man, we don't really want to get sued. This is absolutely Nintendo going, we don't want you to be able to do this because it takes money out of our pocket.
If we allow you to modify it and turn it into an emulator, you can put a thousand games on this thing. And now you're not buying our $60 overpriced game.
You can steal a thousand games and put it on our company. That is what you're saying.
It's not the company's responsibility to police its users.
A lot of those games are Nintendo IP.
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Chapter 8: What are the potential risks of modifying gaming hardware?
This is the thing. It's not Nintendo's responsibility. It is their right. It is their right to protect their IP. It is their product. They can do whatever they want. It is a legal right. Whatever your moral qualms about this are, this is the beauty of a free economy, Josh. If you don't like it, buy something else. No problem.
I'm going to because at this point, I am not buying a Switch 2. That's fine.
I'm pretty sure that was really sad. I mean... With the legality of it, I'm pretty sure from what I read also that in their terms of service now, they put in there that you can't sue them. Yeah, exactly. So if that happens, you can't come back. So they know what they're doing is a little – but I will say I do – You can sue anybody for anything. Well, yeah. It just won't go very far.
Regardless of what you sign.
I do see John's side a little bit more than I thought I would, but I think it's the accumulation of Nintendo just over decades. You can tell they're always just sticking it to the consumer with how they run everything and how their games are and stuff. Don't even. You can't. Come on. At least a little bit.
At least a little bit.
Here's the difference.
They're not sticking it. They're sticking it where the sun don't shine anymore. You don't have. No. This would be one thing if what we're talking about was like some totalitarian regime where you didn't have the option to do something. Dude, if you don't like the way Nintendo operates, go somewhere else.
For sure.
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