Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1047 | Jase Opens up About a Major Hurt in His Marriage & the Biggest Lie Satan Tells Couples
Wed, 26 Feb 2025
Jase, Al, and Lisa open up about the struggles they’ve faced in marriage, from following bad advice to rocky relationships with each other’s families. Jase confesses that he advised his son to schedule his wedding according to the LSU Tigers football schedule, and Phil has been known to dispense dubious marriage tips. Plus, Lisa reveals what she thinks is the single biggest lie that Satan sneaks into married couples’ lives. In this episode: Revelation 21, verses 1-5, 22-23; Ephesians 3, verse 2; Ephesians 4, verse 3 — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What major hurt does Jase reveal about his marriage?
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Welcome back to the Unashamed podcast. Jace, in the five minutes of interim between the last podcast and this one, we have traded crazy for beauty. Because we had Cy, who is not beautiful, but he is a little bit crazy and fun for Lisa, my bride.
I'm going to have to push back there. Uh-oh. Yep. Let me hear this. I should have said this while Cy was here. So I've traveled with, obviously, all my family members all over the world. What I've found fascinating, this is how many wonders of the world? Seven. There's seven. Well, here's number eight. Seven ancient wonders.
No, we already had eight. Tracer was number eight. Yeah. That is true.
We have jokingly said that Teresa Lee, who had worked as a model, among other things. I mean, she's like six foot tall, blonde hair. Beautiful. Beautiful. Very intelligent. And so you look at Si, you look at Teresa, and you say, there's the eighth wonder of the world. Maybe it makes up. Let me give you the ninth wonder of the world is that I mean, Si's married happily. Been married for what?
Almost 50 years now. Almost 50 years. I am shocked at the amount of women who love Si.
Yeah.
Like, uncomfortably, when I'm in public with him... I have seen women come up and kiss Psy on the cheek. And he'll bring up his wife, but there's something about Psy that they don't feel awkward, creepy, or threatened. They love Psy.
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Chapter 2: What humorous wedding advice did Jase give his son?
You'll have to.
I'll wait to the last minute. Yeah.
I didn't even bring it up in my crowd. Someone heard me say on the podcast that I wound up pulling for Philly during the Super Bowl so I wouldn't have to go through a parade in Kansas City.
I guess I said that. What's funny is these things are planned way in advance. Right, right. Who knew? So maybe there was something.
Yeah.
Cosmic. That is interesting. But I'm glad I got to go where they won. But you know what was crazy is when they won, they actually just started tearing up stuff and going crazy. So, you know, be careful what you wish for.
We've talked about that. That's so insane how the reaction is. It's almost just like. It's victory, but it's like, let's destroy things in victory. I don't know. You'd think the losers would be tearing up.
But we just did Jesus turning the water into wine. And even though that symbolizes our marriage to Christ, new beginnings, new creations, if you drink too much wine at a game, you start tearing stuff up. That's a good point. So there you go.
Zach, 2025 is a new year. I've made a decision, as most of our audience knows, to finally lose some weight, which has been needed for a while. I tried it on my own, didn't do very well. And so our good friends at PHD Weight Loss are helping me. And now you have joined the fray. I know you were traveling recently and travel is not always easy for any dad. How did you do on your opening?
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Chapter 3: What is the biggest lie that Satan tells couples?
And she hands the letter to the woman who had just said this and said, I want you to read that out loud. So she opens up the letter and she reads this plan for an expansion of the business into all the new things she wanted to do and all this. And she said, from the beginning, I've had this idea about where we will go.
She said, but I didn't want to bring it up early because you would have thought that She's just daydreaming, and we're never going to get there because we've got to get this work done.
Been overwhelming.
We've been overwhelming. And so she said, but now we're ready to do it. And then N.T. Wright makes the point that from God's perspective, this is what he did with his plan. He had it in place. It was functional. It was happening. It was leading towards something. But then all of a sudden came the time to pull out the envelope and say, but here's what it's really about. It's so much bigger.
And he said, imagine Paul being the young man in the story that realized that now his role is about to change dramatically. And what was going to happen in the spreading of this secret that she kept the whole time. And I just thought it was a beautiful picture. And I guess because I've experienced it, it exactly what happens when the time was revealed in the first century.
I mean, Jesus coming was the change agent for all eternity. Oh, yeah. And then the people that afterwards, the disciples, including Paul, who was, he said, one abnormally boring because he came so late in the game. would be then to get it to the Gentiles. It was just a fascinating story that I thought was in there.
Yeah, I think it's crazy when you go back to the beginning and try to make sense of it all. I don't know where I read this the other day, but I read something and I thought, huh. He's like, you know, the guy was preaching and he was saying, we've always taught in our churches that, well, the world was made perfect, and then we screwed up,
And he was kind of being sarcastic, and he was like, well, now God's like, well, I made a mistake. How am I going to fix this? But I was kind of playing along, and I was like, yeah, I've thought this before. And he said something that I'd never thought about. He's like, just because God made it good when he said, this is good, this is good, this is good. Oh, humans, very good.
He's like, it wasn't complete though. He had in mind, it wasn't like God was surprised. We tend to dumb down God to our level and he's like, it wasn't complete or perfect. There was a process he knew all along. You get that especially from John here because he's going back to the beginning, you know, where it would be more complete.
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Chapter 5: What are the struggles faced by couples in marriage?
Things happen, circumstances. This is not, I mean, I say this all the time. My wife and I, to not have set a better foundation. And oh my goodness, it's just been a struggle. Because I think that's the way it's just the nature of living with another human being.
But just think about those struggles, Jace, without Christ as the center of your marriage. And without you being his bridegroom.
Well, I'm thankful for them now. I'm thankful for the struggles. Because it, boy, it's something I can galvanize. And I want to say this. I mean, my wife has been a superstar with our situation with our parents. But I know part of her is doing that for me because it's a stressful situation.
We've talked about, you know, our parents are just not doing good, and it can be very difficult and stressful. But, boy, she has cooked so many meals. I mean, she's at the top of the list. And I noticed something that she's – which has been kind of crazy. This is kind of personal, but – Because Phil has raked her over the coals the last 35 years on multiple occasions.
Now, he didn't really mean anything by it because my dad, everybody.
Well, he picks on people he loves.
He does, but he's hurt her feelings multiple times. She's cried on the way from their house. I cannot believe he said that to me. I was like, babe. I tried to take up for him, but that compounds the problem. Are you endorsing this behavior? No. But one thing she's been doing is, Which was, first she told me she did this, but it was kind of touching. She cooked the meal for him.
Because now, since Phil likes her cooking so much, you can tell she's kind of moved up the batting order. Because as soon as she walks in, he gets up and is looking for a plate. He's like, okay, that's what we got today. Okay. So she said, well, the first time I left, she said, I thought, you know, Phil's never told me he loves me, and I'm fine with that because he's just not that way.
She said, but I thought, he's just not doing well. And so she came up there and kind of side-hugged him and said, I love you, Phil. And she said, I did that a couple times, and about the third time, he said, I love you too. And I was like, he did? Yeah. It's a miracle. But so she said last night, she said, he does that every time now, whether I say it or not.
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