Jane
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All right, this tea is gonna be great! Ooh, while I'm waiting for it to steep… Hey, David! What? I want something to drink too, please! Oh, okay, sure. Oh, there's some hot chocolate mix in here! Yum! Candy! Candy is the best! Yeah, let me grab this down. Hey, what the heck? You ate all the candy! Come on, hand it over right now! I'm serious! Give that to me right this second, I'm not joking!
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Yeah! Ah! Want some candy while we wait? We can't just have yellow. It's a green party too, Emma. See? Now it makes way more sense. You think green is better? Yellow in the center! Green! Yep. Yeah? It's so on. I'm up for the challenge. You sure about that? Gah! Just move your bowl, okay? It isn't fair! Yellow is stupid, Emma! No! Now look what you've done! Yikes. Well, we're back at square one.
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Unless… I know! Wanna combine some colors? First, melt the green candy down. Then add some heavy cream. Once it's mixed, pour it into tilted glasses. Careful not to fill them all the way. Then add in the next color. Chill them and serve! Sweet! Woohoo! Anybody in the mood for something sweet? Lemon and lime candy cups! Enjoy, friends! They're solid! You scoop it out like this! Mmm!
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This is gonna be a great party! Wow, it looks so good! It'll be so much fun! Do you want a drink? Ooh, pink lemonade! Nice! Ugh, I can't open it! My dentist is gonna hate me. Ouch! What? I want to drink it! That's not gonna work. This is starting to get annoying! This is stupid! I'm not giving up! There must be a way to open the bottle! Ugh! What are you doing? Give me the bottle. Watch this.
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Ready? What? How? Here you go. Wow. But… Mine isn't open! Oh well. Cheers! Try some of mine. Thanks! Let's party! Man, I'm so in the mood for bread! Time to get toasty! In the meantime, I'll start cutting the butter. Oh well. All done? Toast it to perfection. Ooh, it's butter time! And I like lots of it. But why isn't it coming off the knife? Hello? Stop stickin', will ya? Ugh!
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This is impossible! Get off! Stay calm. No more Mrs. Nice Toast. Let's do this. Emma? What's going on? No more messing around! Um… Ha! And slice! There! Whoa! Impressive! Still stuck! Again! Another apple? Ha! Awesome! Do a kiwi and an orange! Anyone order some fruit salad? Cause I've got some fresh slices coming at ya! Ah! One more! Yah! Seriously? What is this butter's problem?
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Oh, I have an idea! Wrap the blade in wax paper, and that butter will stick no more! Now the pieces will be ready to go! A good container is all you need! Put it on the slice of bread and let the spreading commence! Cheers! Tina, look at this! Ooh, that looks delicious! It's so big! Let's get bacon! I'll add some flour. Should we measure it? Nah, in go the eggs. Milk time! That should be enough.
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And I'll whisk it. Hmm. It's not going well. It's taking too long. Allow me! We need some power! Nice! This is much easier! I mean, it's better. Not bad. We can use this to mix the ingredients. Good thinking! But this is better. It's like a mini-workout. Okay, what's first? We'll use the dough! And I'll give it a spin! Oh, it's coming out! Think we should put an egg in it?
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I hope you like your desserts crunchy! Ugh, gross! What else can we put in? Chocolate! I love chocolate! It's so gooey! What about some Mentos? I like your thinking! And I've got some soda! This is gonna be awesome! Scan back, this might get messy. Hmm. I wonder what this is gonna taste like. Here comes the soda! I need to take a photo of this. Tina! No! You nearly crashed my phone! Oops!
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I have a candle for the cake! Aw, it looks cute! Mmm, it does look cute. This is so difficult! I'll pick this one. I'm looking forward to this. Mmm, that tastes amazing! Okay, it's just a chocolate bar. Settle down, class. Hey!
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Something smells good in here! For me? I made it myself! It's hot, be careful! Mmm! Ooh. Uh, little messy there, huh? You could say that. I think I've had enough. It tasted good, though! Hey! Let me show you a trick! Ready? Take a tortilla and slice it halfway like this. Then add different things to each quarter. It can be toppings or condiments.
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I thought that was a bad joke! No food allowed! I mean, how could you not know that? Get rid of it! Okay… And the rest? But… that's such a waste! Fine. Happy?
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Something's not right here. I've no idea what you're talking about. Just as I suspected. What? How did you do that? It belongs in the garbage. Busted. Why are you so happy? You need this. Mmm! It's so tasty! What are you doing? It's candy! I'll show you my secret! Remove the eraser from a pencil. Then slide a straw over the pencil.
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Cut the rest of the straw off, leaving a small piece above the pencil. Next, you'll need a candle. Heat a gummy bear over the candle. Use a metal spoon for this. Wait until the gummy bear is completely melted. Then pour the gummy liquid into the straw. Try not to spill any. Wait for the gummy liquid to set. Then remove the straw. Whoa! Let me have a pencil! Thanks! Wow, that's good!
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It's very hot. Let's lose the lab coats. We need to find a way to cool down. Hold on. I have an idea! I'm thinking the same thing. We'll start by dropping some lemon slices into a jug, then add some soda. Can't forget the ice cubes! Give it a stir! This is my kind of experiment. I think it's ready! Cheers! Mmm. That's better. Hmm. I have another idea. It's a very cool idea.
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In fact, it's ice cold! Sounds good! I need to be precise with my measurements. Now for the salt. I'll prepare the distilled water. I'll pour in the salt. And give it a stir. Do you think it's ready? We need to test it! We can use my lollipop! Look! It's freezing! We did it! It's covered in ice! Does this mean it's a popsicle? I'm gonna try this strawberry. Woah! This is crazy!
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This'll definitely cool us down! Mmm! That is so good! Oh, I know! Good idea! We're gonna be rich! Get your frozen strawberries here! Who's first?
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Then fold each quarter like this, one fold at a time. Last one! Perfect! Now it's totally spill-free! Here! So yummy, right? You'll never eat tacos the same way again! How am I gonna get all this done?
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Ugh, I'm so mad at you right now! But… candy! Ugh, fine. Take it back if it means that much to you. Yay! Thanks! Thanks, David! Well, great. Now I don't have any candy to eat. Okay, I don't see her anywhere. I can just sneak right in. Now to grab my bag of gummy worms that I stashed away here. Yes! I love gummy candies so much! They're my favorite! Hi, David! Can I have some gummy worms, please?
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Refill time. What happened in here? You spilled coffee on all of it? Aw, you poor thing. I wish I could help you. Actually, maybe I can. Gimme your mug. My chip lid fits right on it. That oughta save you another accident. Where was I?
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When was the last time we cleaned it? Ugh! It's so gross! Wait! I have an idea! We need this doll! I'll just lift off her hair. And pour in some water. Then replace her hair! Now we just need to put her in the microwave! Switch it on and let the doll do the work! Look at that! I think we're done! And now we just need to wipe it clean! All the dirt and grime just lifts right off! See?
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Look at the difference! It's so useful! What have you got? Hold on! Hi, mom! Don't mind me! David, stop making a mess. What do you mean? David! Don't you dare! No! Watch me. It's gonna fall! Oops. That's it! Temper, temper! Gotta go! David! Look at this mess! Wow, she's mad! I can't believe you! Should I leave? Look at the microwave! Can you clean it? Please? Okay, but just this once!
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Oh, it's sparkling! Looking good! There you go, honey! Now tidy up your mess! Aw, what a shame! Okay, it was worth it. This is thirsty work! I know. But we've got soda! Wait! I need to get something! Look at this cool bottle opener! The cap just snaps off! So quick and easy! Na na! It's your turn! If you say so. Uh, where's he going? Hey, can I have your bike? What? I'll pay you!
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I'll put it right here. Then use the pedal to remove the bottle cap. Wow! But did you just buy a bike? Sure did! Cheers! Mmm! Now I'll open the can. I just flip the bottle opener over. And it lifts the tab. Pretty good, huh? It's so handy! Uh, okay. I don't have anything that fancy. I guess I'll just use my fingers. It's pretty easy. But… Never mind. I guess it's a tie. Let's just enjoy our sodas.
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Hold it right there. This party has a no food or drinks rule. Oh no! He just sent that guy away for food! What am I gonna do about my candy? I'll just eat it all right now. Mmm! So good! Oh! I can hide some in here! Up the sleeves and in the socks! Okay, that should work. Time to get into that party! Hmm. Let me see. You got any food or drink on you? Are you kidding me with that?
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I can see your candy! Candy? These are just part of my luau outfit.
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Get outta here! Why didn't you believe me? Hey, wait a second. Maybe the lei can help me, though. Okay, I'll start by snipping the lei right here. There. And now I can start taking it apart. So long, flowers! There we go. That's the last one. Now I have the string for the lei. I'll just spread it out so it's nice and long and straight. And now, of course, it's time to introduce the candy strips.
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Ugh. Just take the whole bag then. She took it. But that was part of my plan. Because while she's eating those, I've got my even-secreter hidden stash. I took a tube of toothpaste and just squeezed it all out. Ooh, look at that gel. Okay, the tube is empty. I'll just ditch the toothpaste. And now to bring back my gummy worms. I'll just slide them into the tube. They're a perfect fit.
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I'll just line them up along the string like this. Yep, and now I can just repeat it all along the string. Look at all that candy! Delish! Time to flip these ends underneath. I need them to be ribbons that more or less hang on the string. Okay, let's add even more of them. Candy is the best! And then, of course, I have to bring the flowers back. So it's believable as the lay.
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Also, they're pretty, too. Okay, I think this is looking pretty good. Let me check it out. Yep, it turned into a really cute skirt. I'm so clever. Hey, can I go into the party now? Huh, you were the girl from before.
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You can do it! Yay! That was fun! Oh my gosh! That was so hard! I need some candy to get my energy back up! He has no clue! Delicious! And now I have energy to party the night away! Party, party, party!
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I'm really hungry all of a sudden. Wait! My pencil! Of course! What if it's actually candy? Yes! I'm gonna eat the heck out of this! Huh? What is he even doing over there? David, stop! Huh? What? You want some? Do I want some pencil? Pencil? Oh, right. I was just imagining that it was food. Oh, David! Here, let me show you how my pencil is different! I started out with some chocolate, naturally.
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Now I'll just put the cap back on to finish the disguise. And now that I want a gummy worm to eat, I've got one ready to go! Yes! I can't wait to chew this gummy deliciousness! Mm mm mm. So good. I'm gonna blow everyone away with this delicious dinner! It's all about using fresh ingredients! Ooh! Smells like the chicken's ready!
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Then I put it on a spoon and grabbed my hair dryer. It was time to melt that chocolate down. And then I needed my pencil. Erasers are easy enough to remove. I added a little tube over the end of that pencil. That way I could just pour the melted chocolate inside. Ooh, look at that! It looks so good! But I needed to try and set. Ta-da! A chocolate eraser on my pencil! Did you follow all of that?
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I hope so. Here, you can have this. Whoa, no way! Thanks, Madison, you're awesome! Mmm, that's so good.
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And then you add the flour! Any questions? Look alive, kids! Yes, sir! Very good. Now look closely. See these? You have to make them all! Now hop to it! Alrighty, let's do this! Wait, what's next? I don't follow recipes. I just use whatever speaks to me. Excuse me, no cheating! Whatever. I bet I could sneak a peek. Oh no! His glass! I got it! I got it! Yes! Did anybody see that?
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I'm just gonna keep it. And maybe even use it. First I'll stack up the goods. Then pierce it with the glass. Now for the fun part. Douse it in egg! And some flour! A little more… Then it's fry time! Look at that baby sizzle! Then cut into it! And enjoy the meaty, cheesy goodness! And some dip, obviously! Hey, teach! I'm done! And… spatula's down! What in heaven's name is that? Bellissimo!
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Incredible! What can I say? I'm a good cook! Still working, Liam? I'll make an extra one next time. Where in the book is that thing?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
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Well, I feel like I'll always have these photos now that I printed them. So they'll always have their space, whether we have kids or not.
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Little backstory. My husband and I had gone to visit my parents for like a long weekend. We had a wedding. My parents were selling their house, so their estate sale, like no furniture in the house, no beds, except for the one they were sleeping in. So...
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my husband and i basically slept on the floor one night because the air mattress deflated and then the next night patio cushions makeshift bed in the family room with my sister it was kind of a long weekend with that not sleeping well and then we were driving home and we were kind of like we haven't done the deed in a while the long weekend whatever happened the week before had been a while i just want to point out that i'm proud of you that a long weekend without was a long time it
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But normally the weekend, we try to make time for each other. You know, we're not working or stressed. So the week before and then the weekend, we were horny. We were on the ride home. We were like, all right, we got to stretch the itch when we get home. We get home, we unpack a little bit. And I think I was just like scrolling around.
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on my phone on the couch and my husband, you know, gave me the eye. We made our way to the bedroom and went from there. I think for those earlier reasons, I was a bit more vocal than normal.
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Yes. I had even, I really rarely do this, but like gave a little instruction, you know, a little to the left.
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Right. A great experience. And then we're nearing the end and I, My phone starts to vibrate like I'm getting a call. I kind of just ignore it. I'm like, oh, my sister's probably calling me. And then my husband's phone starts to buzz as well. But we're like so close to the end. We're like, we're just going to power through and figure it out after we finish.
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So immediately after he looks up and sees my phone is towards the head of the bed by the pillows. And he goes, are you on Instagram live right now? No, you are kidding me. No. No. I panic. I've never flipped over so fast to grab my phone. Oh, my God. I knew Monica would do it.
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I'm immediately like our phones were buzzing. So I flip over. I see it's like face up. Camera is facing to the ceiling. It's on live. There's a few names underneath. You can only see a few like who are in the live. Oh, wow.
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of course one of the only ones i saw was an ex-boyfriend and like an old friend that's all i see before i just panic exit out of everything your phone down the toilet i want to i immediately was just running around the house naked like what do i do with myself like i can't even fathom I got a call from a friend I hadn't talked to in forever.
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And she was like, I know we haven't talked in a long time, but I would have wanted you to call me if you noticed. And I was like, I have no words. I'm so embarrassed. She was like, I joined and immediately left and started calling you. People got messages like Janie went live.
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Piecing it together. call my sister up freaking out. My husband just was like, oh gosh, jumps in the shower. Doesn't give a fuck.
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Honestly, he's in the shower. I'm just pacing. He was like, you should just post on your story. Like, well, hope you enjoyed the show. Yeah. I really contemplated it. I was like, I guess we can own it. Yeah. Whatever.
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But my sister was like, ignore it. It never happened. Don't talk about it.
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Yeah. I've replayed the sex in my mind so many times. Like, what exactly was I saying? Yes. I...
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have nightmares i will often this happens honestly every other time now if i don't leave my phone outside of the room i mid sex i'm like i have to look at my phone and make sure it's off but mostly it seems like it was just girlfriends which whatever that's fine but the ex i don't know the ex-boyfriend was just even more wishing he was still with you that's a win it should be harder to go live
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I've never gone live before. You have to swipe up, hit start. Like, I don't know how my hand, I just threw my phone on the bed. So I got a notification from Instagram shortly after, like, you've been flagged for sexual activity. Oh, wow. Well, my sister's friend reported it because she thought it would, like, end it.
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thank god i'm private i don't know what co-workers thought i have no idea i'm a nurse there could have been doctors that i work with on and i don't know nobody has brought it up to me and i imagine all your interactions for the next week you're like hyper focused on like are they acting differently among me which makes you act differently which then could make them act differently yeah the flag on instagram like took it off and it said 7m underneath seven minutes
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No, that is long. Oh, no. I was like, maybe it was seven minutes ago. And then the longer I thought, I was like, no, that was the entire experience. Seven whole minutes. People going in and out. In and out of the live. Ew. I have no words. It was so scary in the moment, but I mean, I laugh about it. I tell everybody now.
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Right. And I was like, what did I sound hot? Yeah, I was calling friends. Like, did it sound good or was I like a beached whale?
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I like to think so. I'm sure it was. I really almost posted. Hope you enjoyed the show. Oh, that's great.
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I'll never not think about it when I'm having sex. Hopefully in a year, I'll not think about it.
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Well, that or they start like licking toes. Oh, God. We usually lock them out. But, you know, sometimes, you know, it's random. They're there.
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It's a good cautionary tale to keep your phones away out of the room. Well, I wanted to say thank you guys. We had a really rough year last year and this year is starting off better. And we are going into a fertility treatment in a couple of days. And I just feel so positive and happy and so excited. You guys really did that for me. And that means more than, you know, going into this process.
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A hundred percent. I did. It felt really good to hear people talking about it because you just see the same stories. You Google, it's the same people. There's not a lot. I appreciate you guys so much.
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During that time, I thought, I'm going to die. I just surrendered. I just told to myself that maybe this is the end of my life. The bosses continued to beat Jane in front of all her co-workers. They're trying to send the message that this is what will happen to you if you try to escape the compound. The only thing that I can remember is they told me no one can escape. No one can escape.
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exciting or most shocking or what's the highlight change let because let's operate under the assumption that all of this is real and true right like let's just do that even though it might not be right we're not sitting here and we're co-signing and saying all these things are happening but it's just easier if we exist in the world that these things are happening as they're said to be so what what leaves off the page what is the highlight for everybody playing at home and when i say everybody playing at home and everybody in this call which is not a call but a podcast
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So whichever, whichever one we want to start with.
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Why are you liking Alige to FaZe? Let's just get into it.
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Lots of things there. Lots of things to unpack, Chase. I would probably even go first time, right? Because if you look at, like, he came up with a lot of the other North American players, right? So he would look at a team like FaZe and there'd be the utmost respect for Kerrigan as an in-game leader, for Reign, what he's achieved because he's competed against him for the better part of 10 years.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Because it's not like John hasn't been around for a long time either, even though he's only 27, right? He's been around for an awfully long time too. And then you got Brokey and you got Frozen in there who are obviously very accomplished players in their own rights, right? So... Yeah, I think that respect level is going to be high.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
And the other one, I guess, is the fact that he is going to make that move over to Europe. So that's going to be interesting to see how that's facilitated, where he ends up, what that means in terms of him being... Is he going to be overseas permanently? Is he going to do a thing where he comes over and does boot camps and goes back and forth?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I guess that's something that we're going to have to learn, and that's going to come out in the wash. But obviously, the main one is how it's going to function within the team.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
if we are operating under the assumption that how everything stands right now is how it's going to go forward it'd be phased just with one change and then the question which is where the role cells come in is well this is not a one-for-one trade with robs right you pointed out the fact that frozen is probably going to go into a couple more of those types of positions even though you know he already felt like it was him and robs last alive a lot of the time regardless but maybe we'll see less overlap there but i'm excited by it as well i agree i like this extra aggression flavor and i think what it means
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
from my standpoint is carrigan needs to become more of a facilitator for a leash and rain as opposed to a martyr right like he he needs to be setting these players up not just going in there trying to take the space and just dying because like in how many games is carrigan being able to go in and take the space successfully he tries to take the space but he's not always impactful within that in terms of being able to get away with those kills right so i think if he can set up rain and a leash he's got two world-class opening fraggers right there
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yeah, I think like Frozen in the year was pretty good, right? We got to reference his last year now, unfortunately. But Frozen in 2024, I thought he was pretty good, right? I think he's still going to come within HLTV's top 20 and we're down to what the last 13 players. So I just think like, for me, it was, for example, the grand final with him just recently against Spirit, right?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
He looked a bit out of sorts, right? And I don't know how concerning that is. We'll have to wait and see if that continues. But Elish coming in, he brings a lot of pedigree. He brings a lot of experience in those environments. And the thing that I like about all these changes is it's not drastic enough where they have to completely rebuild the playbook, but they're all very experienced players.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
So they're going to be versatile enough to be able to make these changes. And if it doesn't work, in Bounty and Katowice, well then you have the runway of the rest of the season going into the major to the point of where those invites or however it's gonna work, because we're still waiting on details from Valve of how everything's gonna function for the major itself. So you get essentially like,
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
A four month lead time to make sure you just have your head above water enough to make sure you secure one of those 32 invites to the major based off the VRS. And then within that time, you can juggle things around and reconfigure until it feels right. And then you get the last stretch of time, depending on what events they're attending and whatnot.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
for the lead in directly to June and that Dallas, Austin major, not Dallas major, sorry, Texas. We only go to the one place normally. So I think like in terms, and this goes for a lot of teams, like you can say the same thing when we get into this conversation about vitality as well. I think there's a little bit more responsibility, which is a conversation we've had a lot about
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Vitality and maybe Apex taking away responsibility from his players because he doesn't trust them. Whereas I think that the players have a lot more responsibility and autonomy in FaZe. But at the same time, if Kerrigan makes a call, everybody's going to follow it to the T, right? And I think that there was another interesting thing with FaZe this year. You remember there was that point where
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
They were like, I don't remember exactly where this happened. Maybe it was coming out of the player break. And they're like, oh, we really, we like it when Kerrigan's, you know, making all these calls and everything's a bit looser. And what they'd been doing was kind of calling off of like a playbook, right?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yes. I wonder if they've found the correct balance for that, right? Because you need a bit of both, right? And also being able to have both means that you can be more unpredictable. That for me is going to be the biggest question because at least getting plugged in revitalizes everybody, right? That's the honeymoon period.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Everybody's back trying their best, working on the new dynamics and everything like that and what can grow. But that could still be an issue, right? Like that still feels like it needs to be something that they need to balance.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
More or less, that's the question.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
But I think, like, Janko, you talk about this with a lot of these big-name teams, right? You reference them as, like, prestige football clubs, and FaZe is essentially one of those, right? The whole premise is to stay within the orbit of always being dangerous for a trophy.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
If you're ever dropping out of that conversation, then you're not fulfilling your obligation as one of those top-tier organizations. So for FaZe, that's the goal. Just stay in the orbit of the top six or seven teams where any given Sunday, if the conditions are right, you can strike and win a trophy. And I feel with the Leafs, they should have that.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Like Liquid had some iterations that he played on where there was a couple of imports, so, you know.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I think in his position as well, right? Being in Europe, right? You want that guarantee that you're going to have a team.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I just think, to Janko's point, like...
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
either way that you spin it if you had extended the contract even if it was only by a little bit you would be selling it for money as opposed to giving him away for free you you don't want to give your enemies a weapon for free which is essentially what they've done by giving him over to vitality who we already have heard in the past you know they weren't willing to spend like wasn't rops meant to be linked to vitality in the past and like the the room was the time i wanted too much money and vitality weren't willing to pay like this was a couple years ago
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Maybe I just made that up. Maybe. I don't remember.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
yeah it's just kind of just kind of crazy well if we happen to time you know back to in back-to-back years phase loses a star player on free i think it just goes down to the yanker what you're saying like this organization there you you were part of it you know better than anybody right like it's essentially a self-run thing within counter-strike right you've got eddie there
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
uh there's that guy that's brazilian that's with him i don't know his name but he's always in the gym getting fucking jacked um and that's about it right you don't see many other people who are involved some some of the guys on social media get involved i saw um temper was talking about robs the other day and then tico he he gets involved in it too but they kind of leave them up to their own devices which i love because even though it's a big business they run it like a little i i fucking i'm all for it man just keep it as a bunch of dudes
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I think a change had to happen, right?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
And I also think that's weird. So like I was reading some of the Reddit comments to do with this and people were like, oh, that's pretty rich coming from ROPS considering the type of year he had, right? But you look at this team coming from 2023 going into 2024, there was just like back to back grand finals.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
They weren't obviously winning all of them, but they were really hyper competitive in the early days of CS2.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
um they were the team to beat starting the year and then they only really dropped off towards the middle period of the year and then their recovery was essentially them at the major to to close it all down right that was the end and um I guess at that point the it was impending that things were likely going to change at that point in some way shape or form um so you know they finished on a sweet-ish note even though they didn't win the major there but
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yeah, the thing with the team was it's just been such an up and down year. But I think that this change is good. And it's not one that completely readdresses the full identity of the team. It's still the same core, the same everything. Just plug in a new guy who's experienced and can also frag out. I like it. It's going to add that fresh blood and then we see what happens.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Whereas I don't know how I feel about the ROPS to Vitality because I think it's a really good change like one for one with Sphinx, right? Like I think that's good. And I think that obviously ROPS is much more experienced. I think ROPS is a better player than Sphinx. That's just my opinion.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
But I don't know how it's going to work for ROPS because he's gone with essentially being with Kerrigan as his in-game leader for the majority of his career. I know it wasn't the whole time, but for the majority of his career. And I think that there's a big demeanor difference between the likes of a Kerrigan and an Apex. I'm curious for Rops from that perspective how he's going to handle that.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Like, if he gets fucking told off by Apex mid-game, which would probably never happen from Kerrigan, is he going to shut down? Like, how is he going to handle that? Because, like, I think Dan is probably cut from a bit more of an elk similar to me. Like, if someone is doing something that I don't think they should be doing and the game's on, I'm going to fucking tell them.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Like, you know, whether it's... Well, I guess you need to learn if they're going to react poorly or not. But I... I'm curious to see how that dynamic kind of works. But the idea of Ropz with ZywOo and Flamesy, I think that's fucking sick.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
You might get more out of Flamesy, right? Because like this Sphinx thing, some of the positions that Sphinx had like are not one for one necessarily on where Ropz would play. Like you might, I think you have more overlap or at least you have some overlap with like Flamesy, this on the CT side with Ropz's positions.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
So then Flamesy might get to move into some of Sphinx's positions, which would give him a bit more movement and like freedom, which I think for Flamesy, he's a kid with like ants in his pants, right? Like you ever meet this guy's, fucking bouncing off the walls. And that's kind of what he has in the server too. So I think that there's certain scenarios where that can come in to play.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Ropz is going to have to play Vertigo in this team though. So that'll be something that they don't play Ancient, so that's not going to be on the table. But yeah, in terms of the whole voice situation, I think we'd always be wanting it to be Zywoo because he's one of the best players to ever touch the game, right? And someone who has really good intuition for it. but he's just not that guy, right?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Maybe he can become that guy. It's never too late. But I think that the interesting thing is the amount of firepower within this team. That's the thing that kind of just stands up.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yeah. It's just the consistency that those players can deliver with that firepower. And if they're being forced into type of rounds that they don't want to play or it doesn't put their firepower on display, then that's where some of the issues, I think, can start cropping up because you want to allow these guys to be able to play out rounds. You want to put them in positions to that as opposed to,
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
All right, guys, let's just contact because I have a read that this is the thing, right? It could work though. You just like walk into a bomb site and trade because you have so many people who can just bop heads. So I think there's a lot of different ways to look at it. I don't like have a lot of reservations with it. I think it's like, it's a slam dunk for Vitality.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Spinks doesn't want to be here. There's a few names who would be great replacements. Yeah, ROPS is definitely one of the tippy top of that list. There was rumors as well about the idea that they were looking to see if they could upgrade Mezzy too. I think Jimmy was one of those names that was being floated around for that potential.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
But that obviously is not happening as far as we're concerned right now. Anything could change. But yeah, I think, yeah, like you look at the year that we've just had, you have the three teams that are the ones in conversation for team of the year. You got Na'Vi, you've got G2, and you've got Spirit, right? Outside of that,
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Vitality have to be in that conversation alongside of probably Maus, but Janko, you bang on their own. It seems like harsh to say only one Cologne because we had such a competitive year of Counter-Strike where so many different teams were winning tournaments.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
We had two different major winners and Vitality were there in the conversation most of the time, but unable to seal the deal and be that consistent best. And that's tough because nobody was really the consistent best. Like Na'Vi had a patch, G2 were patchy, but... they had a bunch of them and then Spirit were the bookends of the year and they even picked up a couple of ones in the middle too.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
So, yeah, maybe we're just going to be in a period of Counter-Strike for a while where there's no, where there is just a, it's not a power struggle, right?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
But it's just hyper-competitive where we have, you know, a bunch of different teams going inconsistent and that's cool because then we can then start focusing in on, you know, not what makes this one team so great but where are the differences that lie between all of these teams. There's,
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Now it just comes down to the details, right? Like the break. MR12 has made it. Yeah.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I think you just hit the nail on the head though, Jason, right? You said everyone good enough with the utility or not highly tactical. I think that the level of those things is much better across the board and everybody at the top level... So it's hard to find an edge.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yeah, everybody has a very good understanding of these things because you're going into game to game and these players are sitting there and going, okay, so what did we do in our last three matches? Well, I have to change that because they're going to target this position. They're having to change things so regularly now that you need to be on top.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
You're not just going to be able to run the same thing for months at a time anymore. So everybody knows they need to keep changing. There's the mind games. There's what did we do in practice? What do they know about us from the last game? That is all really high. So then, yeah. And the thing is, we'd always joke about it. You know, what's the best strategy to run in Counter-Strike?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
The five headshot strategy. You know, like that's the best strategy you could possibly run. So yeah, then it does boil down to how hard can you shoot? How good are your mechanics? You know, like that's, and that I think is part of, what donk has shifted in the conversation. It's like, it doesn't matter what you do if this kid's just going to come into a bombsite and literally kill all of you.
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I know he's just one man, but he's one fucking really good man, right? So I think that's kind of where everybody's at. It's like, if we're not shooting hard, it doesn't matter how good our strategies are. It doesn't matter how good our preparation is. We're just going to get fucking donked, right? And that can be said for other players too, just obviously not to the donk level at the moment.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
They're going to get that core from Heroic.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Well, this is the joke.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yeah, but people were legitimately saying this on Twitter. They were like, yeah, get Snappy, Sampias, Madden, Shush, Spinks. So you get the core plus, and you have Sora as the coach, of the ENCE roster, right back together, just minus Nertz. And then the problem is you don't... Because Sampias wasn't on the roster most recently with Falcons. It was simple.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
So you don't get Falcons spot necessarily, right? So... that's the bit that kind of is tough. Do you know, Chad? Yeah? Do you know how long before you can swap that player out? I think it's just a couple months, right? So even if you just play one event, I don't know exactly, but I think if you play just one event bounty... Because this is the conversation around the Falcons roster, right?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
That's back in the extrovert era, back before all the players now just hang out on their own and nobody's at the bar afterwards, right? Everybody is just like they're with their staff, their coaches, their analysts, their managers, getting sports massages. No one's going and having it. But back in the day, it used to be a lot more social. We're sitting around the pool.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
They bought Degster, Tessus, and Kikson alongside of now Niko Magisk over there with Zonic as the coach. And the consensus seems to be, and this is what Stryker was thinking the other night as well, and he's in the back rooms. He's having these conversations with Nell and all these other guys about what the fuck's going on.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
But the consensus there is that they're just going to replace these players when they can. They'll get rid of Dexter. They'll get rid of Tessus. You'll get Montessi once his contract with G2 is almost done. You'll get Jimmy when his contract with Mouses is almost done. You'll get your boys. And at that point, after a couple of tournaments and this new Falcons roster just needing to do all right,
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
They have heroic spot now, which is just insane. Now they don't have to play any of the qualifiers. They don't have to worry about that wildcard position with bounty anymore. And then you can just go, okay, well, you know, thanks, Dexter. Thanks, Tessus. Bye. Like, we'll just replace you one at a time. Just as soon as... Like, keep kicks in. It's fine. You get yourself an in-game leader.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
You're all good. But just replace the other two over time and get yourself the roster you were looking for. So I think that's the move, even though they spent a shitload of money to get these three players. But yeah. Yeah.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
If they get enough money, right.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Draken was copping shots while we were talking with Simple. Who else were we talking with?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yeah, but Heroic also did pretty good. Heroic did good at the Major, right? Like, that'd be remiss of us to say that they didn't. And you've got the Heroic roster, now you've put in... No, but you don't have the good parts.
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care all that much it's the worst move think about this for teslas and dexter you've done this because you have no other option like your team is disintegrating notes is gone you're like well they're gonna pay us and we have to go like we don't have a choice we're losing everybody and it's like and the other two are like well fuck we were gonna bench dexter but now we're gonna go play with him and it's like well this point in our career is just gonna be over within six months we're
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Better get fucking paid, I'll tell you that much. Because you're going to blink and you miss it. And then Tess says, and Dexter is going to find himself on the bench. And then it's going to be, well, fuck me. They have to know that's going to happen. Because you've got Zonic probably going, we'll let you play for your careers. And he doesn't mean that.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
He means wait until Monacy is available from G2 and we're definitely fucking buying him. And we'll take Jimmy too. This is so temporary, mate.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
The alternative was just pick up a bunch of guys who did good at the Major, or have done good in recent time. Pick up a Ujerx, pick up a Jambo.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
No, but Jason, the landscape's different now. Na'Vi were getting positions because of partner leagues. There's no partner leagues anymore. They'd have to start from the ground zero.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
With that cup though, Jason, which you are moving on the table, that is a keep cup from Cologne, Germany.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Niko's winning the second major of the year. He's lifting the trophy in Budapest.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
You can get them anywhere, at any coffee shop there.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Guys, it's not going to be great, but it's not going to be that bad. He's not going to go play with a bunch of fucking invalids. Like, what are we talking about here?
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uh they were bad players they came from a fucking top they're the core yeah came from ents right yeah yeah so you say how that unfolded yeah i guess because they had to play with bob ross mate so mate the things that we know that guy was up to as opposed to playing right like what are we what are we doing it's not it's not the same is it
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So you don't want to bring them back and get the money that, you know, you're happy to keep them. They remind you.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Guys, you can't have me buy into, okay, Counter-Strike teams are professional now, G2 know it's over with Niko, the roster's changing in the future, but they're professionals, they're all going to sit here, focus on the task, and try their absolute best. And now we try that, there's that same conversation again, and you can't be like, oh, nah, things are just going to be shit.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
He must have known that that wasn't a guarantee, right? Hopefully. When he signed the deal because otherwise that's hubris at its absolute finest.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I think if they also made the play for Spinks to replace Hunter...
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
i'd be in right like i think that i think but they're not they're not making that play but if they made that play that that'd be huge i already think that the heavy god edition is is good like you look at where heavy gods come to in such a short period of time it was like eg sorry endpoint into og and then into cloud nine and he's had some like really hot moments as well but he's still very young like the core of that team now malbs monacy
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Even though Modesty are probably only going to be there temporarily. And Heavy God, that's a really young call for the team. There's no dig at Hunter. I think Hunter can still definitely deliver. But if you had Sphinx there as well, then the longevity of that team, I could get a lot more excited about it.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
But I still think it's a good pickup because Malibu is going to slot into a lot more of what Niko was doing. And now you won't have it in some of these situations where he was kind of overlapping. And he won't have to anchor anymore on the CT side. You can put Heavy God in. Even though Heavy God is in some rotator and more flexible roles, I think that they can balance it.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
But the power dynamic shifts now, like before it was essentially Niko's team, right? Like I know that Janka doesn't like us saying that because it gets framed from he makes all the choices. But I mean, in terms of more within the server, like Niko's very vocal player, right? He's going to say what he wants to do in a lot of the rounds or how he's reading the game. He should do.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Mate, Janko, I want you to elaborate because we could really become a right-wing podcast. With some of the things that we've been saying recently, this could be our chance.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
He's one of the best. He's arguably the best rifler of all time, right? Like he should be having that level of impact within the rounds. Um, but now you're going to have snacks in a position where he might be able to, they could potentially look at structuring things a little bit more, right?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Or, um, are they just going to go, okay, Malbs, now you have the responsibility of being able to fulfill exactly what Nico did. It'd be like, fuck me. Like, are you really going to give that to Malbs who is still within his first year, like calendar year of playing for a top tier team against top tier opponents all the time.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
And then with the heavy God, uh, addition alongside of Malbs, the question becomes for the two of them, because now they're going to have to be the two delivering the most in the rifle capacity, uh, How do they go in big games, right? Like consistently in big games, right? Because we've seen it for Malves a couple of times.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
For Heavy God, if they are getting deep within tournaments, it's going to kind of be the first time for him to be doing that. So how they handle the pressure and the nerves, that's going to be one of the bigger questions. It's not can they perform at a good level. Yes, we've seen it. But under the lights, saying that... Oh, someone's setting off fucking fireworks. Yeah.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
But you shouldn't have fireworks. It's not legal in Australia to have your own fireworks. We've...
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Doing a great time. Yeah, fuck. Sorry, everybody. I hope we didn't scare anybody away from the children operating all those lines. They fucking freaked me out a little too. But yeah, I think that we're talking about nerves. Now I'm freaking out.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
But yeah, that's going to be the concern for me. I think Hunter can still definitely deliver. Is this loud? How loud is this?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Did something happen at your place as well, JC?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
New Jersey was really excited about the last episode. I think we were in the newspaper in New Jersey.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I'm questioning the legality of that, you know. In Australia, everyone's going to be put in prison now just for watching. What are we talking about? Something about G2, Heavy God, yeah.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
They definitely should. Because Icy's going to VP, right? Boombl4 and Axl are rumored to be going to BetBoom. And that's going to be alongside of Siren.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
If they are going to, then they should just do a North American based. I think for it doesn't make any sense to be doing what they've done anyway. At the time that they picked up this roster was like, okay, that's Gambit, right? It makes sense. They're pretty good. And that was pretty much as the whole conflict was kicking off, really.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
So it was contentious at the time for them to be picking up that team. Now it doesn't, it just makes like less sense, right? From multiple different angles. The team hasn't made successful. It's just like, hey, if you're going to be giving anyone money, fucking see if you can build a North American team.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
yeah where i'm uh where i was like going with it i guess maybe not who knows i was listening to some like i was listening to something on the on the radio which is crazy because when i'm in europe and stuff i never listen to the radio i was in the car with one of my parents whatever and we're driving and they've got some people on there and they're banging on about the recycling stuff and they're like yeah so you know if you have your bottles and cans in bags make sure you don't put the bag in the bin because the bag's not recyclable recyclable just make sure and i'm like
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I don't know. How would you base it if you were Monacy? Put yourself in his shoes. So what would need to happen with this roster for you to want to stay?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Well, yeah, but he definitely, he's not going to lose that. I don't think he's going to lose that. Like, unless the team atmosphere is dog shit, and then he's like, well, then just get me out of here.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
probably after the first major but you know if it happens quick enough if you make that decision you could probably pull the trigger on something else well let's let's think about it from this perspective right because what teams could monacy join that would put give him the best chance to win right because at the end of the day as a player the thing that you want to do the most is win the tournaments right so if you look at he wouldn't be joining vitality right because they have zywOo so that's not going to happen unless zywOo decides i'm just going to rifle which i don't think that's going to be the case
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
So then outside of that, you could think Na'Vi, right? He could return to where he was part of the Academy. He could replace Wonderful.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
No, you don't think so? I was not getting him. Okay. No, but I'm not saying that right this second, but I'm just saying, you know... Yeah.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Oh, yeah. No, you're right. You're right. No, he won't because he's Russian. There you go. No, that's fine.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Mate, send him to Spirit. Replace Shira. People are going to think that's sacrilege, but still, get him in there.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
All right. Let's talk about liquid. He's waited this long, Janko. We've kept him waiting this long. Let's talk about liquid. All right, Jason. How do you feel?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
It's because you've been the biggest Jekinder hater. You're in the green rooms all the time. You're like this fucking Latvian cunt going in first, not getting any fucking kills. Get him out of this fucking team.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Should we just start... Should we all get a recycling fucking thing in our house and we just start melting shit down and making our own plastics? Is that where we should get to?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Should have. Okay, so the problem with this, Jason, because you're going to upset the role cells. You've already upset them. I don't give a fuck about them. All right, well, I'll speak for them because I don't agree with them, but at least not all the time. Sometimes they're all right. But, Jason, this isn't like a one-for-one kind of change with Yukinda for NERCH, right?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
They don't really fit the same profile. Because, like, the way that Yukinda was using himself was maybe a little bit more similar to how you would see some in-game leaders. 2014 Apex? Yeah. Well, yeah, but also how in-game leaders are going in to try and make that space, right? Because you look at this Liquid roster, and yeah, you said there aren't any more passive players.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Well, getting painted with that brush is JKS, NAF, and Twist, right? Twist also gets painted with the passive brush. And Nert's coming in. Even though he's explosive, and I think he's a game-changing type player and can be very good, and I actually think he's a great player. I'm happy for the pick-up. But the way that this is, it's like, well, how are things going to work, Jason?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
How's it all going to boil down? Who's going to take what responsibilities? Who's going to have to be more aggressive? Because I think people feel that there needs to be more than one change within this Liquid roster for it to make sense potentially role-wise. What do you have to say to that? in rebuttal?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Well, this is where the... the role conversation is a curious one because like with what Jason's saying, he thinks that nerds is going to be, the fuck is Jason doing?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
He thinks that it's going to be Nertz is the one to kind of be in those initiating positions alongside of Twists. I think they were already shifting so it was more JKS and Twists to take more map control positions on the T side. I don't think that was on all of the maps. For example, Jukinda was still fighting in canals and stuff and JKS was still taking aim and control.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
But you look at some of the shifting things like they didn't have Jukinder as their yard outside space taking guy on Nuke anymore, JKS was doing that. Taking mid on Mirage, JKS was playing in through underpass, Twist was playing in through top mid. They had Jukinder on the extremities. So they were changing things up with their approach anyway.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
And this is, they were already, like you think about when the Dust2 game against Spirit, they were sending Jukinder out late long as the long guy. And then it was JKS alongside of Twist and Ultimate as their mid control pack to take short. So they were already shifting. They were doing a lot.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
But don't you think it's a bit of a shift though, like Jason, like, because I'm thinking about this, right? When you're taking map control on certain maps, it's not even necessarily about finding the kill. It's about getting the space and being able to manipulate said space.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
So if you're getting across Secret, then you could potentially just be the player going down lower and looking for a kill, or you could be the player manipulating the rotations and being able to activate late, coming back up Secret, depending on what the round really entails. And I think players are better suited to that than Yukinda.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I think when they had Yukinda playing on Nuke in some of those games, they were using him in Lobby and they were like, Yukinda, you have really good aim. We're going to remove the amount of options for you getting spammed through a smoke or running and dying. You're just going to walk ramp and you're going to shoot the ramp holder in the head. And he did it, right? And that's the shift of the game.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I feel like the way that the tactics play out and everything like that. So it was trying to put him in a position that was more comfortable to get the most out of his assets in the meta, which I don't think they were hiding deficiencies. I just think they were trying to use him more aptly.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I think that the nerds addition for the CT sides is phenomenal, right? It doesn't even matter how you square up a lot of these positions, but you have two really strong CT sided anchors in NAF and JKS who can take both of these bomb sites and they could do what they need to do.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
And then in the more rotating type CT positions where they get to initiate a bit more or read the play, you've got a nerd and you've got a twist. So I'm like, oh shit, like that's great. I think...
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
nerds is a lot more reliable in those scenarios than your kinder is because you're bang on like anubis was that prime example of where they were using him for a lot of those aggressive maneuvers and then you have ultimate who needs to pick his battles a little bit more and not be so stubborn but he's still maturing into what tier one counter-strike is going to look like so you know we'll give him another season to see if he's able to develop in that fashion or if he's just going to go down as another
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
bad Liquid AWPer, right? Like, because you're starting to get a bit of a laundry list over there, unfortunately. So the CT side, I think, is where we're not going to have so many issues. Fuck.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
But yeah, I do think that currently Nertz is a better player than Yukinda. I don't think that's a stretch to say. I think the thing just to kind of cap off on the Yukinda point, and I'm not making excuses for the guy. I quite like the guy. He was always quite personable to talk to.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
But over the years, you saw differences in his personality when we were doing on-camera things because of how he was potentially being perceived or how his performances were going. And obviously Liquid put that thing out.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
about his struggles as well but there was that period of time so he came in and he was like oh the savior of liquid he's helping us with the macro everything from jane blah blah blah right then he takes over the leadership mantle it doesn't quite work there's a lot of chopping and changing around but you talk to anybody on that liquid roster and they say like in terms of the work that he's putting in and the effort and what he's helping with it's all really positive stuff i just think for a young man to get thrown through the ringer of that and he was more
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
extroverted and outgoing, right? But he got whacked on the nose with a newspaper. He was a Labrador and he got a little bit too excited one day and the owner got mad and now he's not an excited Labrador anymore, right? And I think that this is probably the best thing for Yukinda even though it sucks that he couldn't find this success that he would have been hoping for on Liquid.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I think a fresh start somewhere else is what he's going to need because to reinvent yourself after you've already... gone through all these different iterations in Liquid and you have so much negative press and pressure around you from a community standpoint, you're never going to shrug that.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
So every time that you're, you know, unless you just one day wake up and you're fucking reborn again, which the mental side of this is the toughest side of this. So I hope he does find success in the future, but I think this is a good thing for him and a good thing for Liquid.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I wish he would. But he's done both, right? He's been close, then he tried to get a little bit further away. I think that he should reunite with Jayme and Norbert.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I don't know where they're going. I don't know if they're going anywhere.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Liquid reached out about Nertz for the JKS position in the middle of the year. So they were already interested in Nertz. So maybe those conversations just resumed towards the tail end of the year.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
uh i'm not i'm not certain but yeah i know nerds was on the radar for liquid um so i think you know that's you you you're right though what was the what what was the conversation nerds was the first domino of the ents
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
So the rumor was Dexter was already benched. So if you're nerds and Dexter's benched, who are you getting to replace Dexter? Well, apparently it was meant to be some pious. But maybe they, you know, started to inquire about some pious and then Falcons were like, well, while we've got you on the line, how about we inquire about a kicks in a Dexter and a Tessa?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
It's like, well, we don't, we were going to put Dexter on the bench actually. So then, yeah, maybe that was the bit that enabled the conversation to happen for nerds, right? So if the team's not going to exist anymore anyway. then this would probably be a better move. But also like, I think it, it just seems like a better move on paper, even though they had a heroic had a better major than liquid.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
There's no doubt about that. The type of opponents that they were beating, right. The way that they played in general.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yeah. But I still think that this Liquid roster does have some good potential. I think for Justin, it's going to be really important for him to be able to show, because he did it on FaZe when he was standing in, right? He stood in for Robson, he stood in for Rain. So he did two very different versatile roles there. But Justin's no spring chicken. He's 29 now or 28 now, whatever the fuck he is.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
His birthday was in December, June, June, China. And he needs to be able to contribute to the team in a consistent fashion, right? Obviously, we're not just boiling this down to the statistics. We're going to be talking about the impact that he can find. But if he is taking more aggressive responsibilities, then he needs to make sure he's delivering because it's not a fun place to be, right?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Having to do that all the time. And especially if those moments aren't being capitalized on, if you're not finding any success. For him, I'm curious to see how the next six months go because he would likely be the next name to be changed within that roster if things don't work. And I think that they have a strong core of that team. It just depends on what ultimate becomes.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
At the moment, it's Hooksy. You could get Hooksy.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Right, that's what you're looking at. LaHooksey's a free agent right now. I don't think he's going to end up anywhere out of all of this. What if he kind of went to complexity, Jason?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Oh, then it's a European team though. Cause they already have Hauserk. So nevermind. They can't do that. I tried.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
We did try. Sorry, Jason.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
yes of course that's what it means there's a new engine in the car right the the jame colt it's finally been exposed what's that organization you have in america jason that kind of like deals with cults they go they embed themselves and they they take them down from the inside it's got a name um fbi no it's not those guys anyway there's someone in cults okay yeah what do you think i said
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
No. Colt. Colt versus Colt.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Okay. Well, we don't want to talk about which country invented the English language. Anyway. Where's my British passport?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yeah, then read a bit below that. Fuck off.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yeah, so the cult of Jayme no longer exists, which I think was necessary because there was a power struggle between Electronic and Jayme ever since Electronic had joined, and we had seen that in interviews, and if you're reading between the lines with some of the things that Jayme was saying, it seemed like he was well aware that his head was on the chopping block.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
So they've got rid of him, they've replaced the AWPing prowess with Icy, so Icy's more of an up-and-comer, so we'll see what is contributed there. But Electronic hasn't had a very good track record being an in-game leader, realistically. So that is the biggest problem they have going for them.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
In terms of adding Flammas, they've added more firepower, but they already had pretty good firepower with like Flit. Fames obviously having a bit of a tougher time recently, but the whole team was in a weird spot. So I like the fact that it's just kind of a fresh start, but it's a fresh start with a guy that hasn't been successful as an in-game leader. So that's the most worrying part.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
But I still think it'd be better than a team who's in a constant arm wrestle of how are we playing CS.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Excludes cap and label.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
That's what he does. Yeah. And then take them down from the inside. So, look, I agree with what Yanko is saying. I just would be ashamed with the talent on the team that they don't stick the landing. But I'm really interested to see how they divvy up responsibilities. Right. How is this even going to look?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
right that that's the bit i'm very curious about and i don't even want to start speculating about i just want to see kind of how all this shakes out the thing that i don't want to see is flammas being dulled immediately because he was such a fun player to watch during the major cycle with gamer legion um so you know it would suck for him to to go from you know in a real feel-good environment with a young hungry team to being in a broody bunch of boys so
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I don't know how it's going to unfold, but that's the one. I just hope they don't ruin Flamas. That's it, because it was fun to watch.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
It won't be the same as the old one. That's where I'm at. That's the main thing.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
We're changing the dynamic. We're going to talk about, Jason, composting. How do you feel about it?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Oh, yeah. Well, they're probably linked with fear, though. That was the rumor, that fear was going to get taken from... Oh, yeah, I saw that somewhere. So, I don't know what's going to happen there.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
Yeah, well, the only problem that they have, and I don't completely hate it. I just am trying to think of how it's going to work. You've got some pretty passive players there, right? You don't have many space takers. But the biggest issue there is with that, you're...
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whoever's going to take the risk organizationally to build a team of the leftover pieces is going to be foregoing um the vrs points from a core and they're going to have to work up through all open qualifiers and stuff which is going to be really tough because i think most of these open qualifiers actually i imagine all these open qualifiers are going to be just online counter-strike right and we know that how competitive that can be so that is the drama
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Unless they do something crazy, right? Like, imagine that they got the Gamer Legion core. They brought ZTR over to in-game lead. They got Slend and Volt or Torsten or something, right? And then they just completely rip the heart out of Gamer Legion. Or they get Jambo. They get Fia. They have, I don't know...
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if any i don't know right i'm just i'm getting a bit crazy with it um but we know that they got a lot of money well i don't know how much money but um over the course of the year they would have gotten a lot of money for the like let's say they're selling notes as well and these three players there's going to be money for heroic to work with where they could try and do that just from a lower team which sure doesn't mean that it's going to give them direct the invites and stuff but it will put them higher as opposed to having to go into these qualifiers
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So if you're a player, if you're like a hooksy, you're probably hoping that you can get into a team that already has VRS points instead of being a part of a new project because you cut out a lot of the bullshit. But at the end of the day, I think beggars can't be choosers, right? And how long do you want to be sitting on the sidelines?
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So the opportunities that come your way, especially as you're getting older as a player, it doesn't matter so much for an in-game leader. But some of these other names, you're going to have to take whatever comes at some point or you just...
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just don't you could just not right like that that's a that's an option too so um but yeah i don't know like with this there's so much wild speculation that we could be throwing out there which is why it's tougher to talk about these because i i'm not in these backroom conversations i'm not much in players dms i'm not talking to co i don't know what the fuck i'll just see what news comes out and try to be excited like everybody else and and see what's what's going down
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um okay here's a fun one uh big uh drop searson again uh and they've and they've also dropped so they're they're in a bit of a research i don't know what they do this is the thing like do they just get the guys from alter attacks like there's that uh is it hyped right there's that kid he's the orper i'm pretty sure um but then what other german players would they be looking at to kind of bring in
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So I'm really not certain what's going on there. It would be crazy. Imagine if they brought in two players that weren't German after all this fucking bullshit that we've heard from this team about wanting to stay German and everything like that. That would be crazy.
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Oh, wow, yeah. Fuck it now. Gade. And Zantaras somehow. Yeah.
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It was the lowest rated player at the major and had some stinkers. Had some real stinkers. Yeah. The thing that I'm interested in the most is Kyosuke and where he's going to go. Obviously, it goes saying that he's not going anywhere for the next six months or whatever. He's going to stay with Spirit. But we already had the Donk revelation coming quite quickly.
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Do you think if you're Kyosuke, you just stay in the academy for the next... You just stay until they need the upgrade in the main team?
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You know why?
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Jason, I just want to say your beard is looking equivalent to that one time we were in a taxi in Germany and the taxi driver asked if you were a terrorist.
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Yeah, well, and for him as well, it might seem enticing to go for that because you get to play. Like, the thing with the Academy team on Spirit, as far as I understand, they ban the same map as what the main Spirit roster bans, right? They don't play Inferno, I'm pretty sure. I think, you know, they actually are trying to filter players up if they are deserving, so...
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There are some other good players on that Academy roster as well. I will tune into some of their games. So it'll be interesting to see what happens over there. But gentlemen, I wrote this down and I wanted to, because we're at the end of the year or the start of this one and the HLTV award show is coming up, which I'll be seeing you guys at in a week's time.
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But with all of this, it does bring like a lot of community conversation. And I think it's good that HLTV do this because it's just another point of entertainment, right? And I think with the positions that we find ourselves in, the top 20 comes out and you go, yeah, okay, that's what they did, right?
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
But I'm not sitting there on Twitter arguing with people or going, oh, how the fuck did HLTV put this player here or there?
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like they're doing their own thing and i kind of have my own opinion and i wouldn't even sit there and make a top 20 list right i just have the players that i think are really good and that for anything as well i'd be putting players more into roles as opposed to just like players because uh everybody contributes something that's different um but the the question that i wanted to get to was just seeing what you guys landed on this uh so i've written down a couple of
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things right and i want you guys to put yourself you don't even i was going to say put yourself in a position of a player but i don't even think that's necessary just just as you guys would look at it right because you were both players previously so you you know what you think is important um i'm going to list off these things and maybe we can even add to this if you guys have other suggestions then tell me in what order that you would put these of importance
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So you've got like the number one player of the year, major MVP, your team being team of the year, a major win, or like four times second places at A to S tier tournaments. That last one's a bit of a stretch, but I felt I wanted to add a little bit more into the mix.
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What did you get for Christmas, Jason?
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but those like kind of accolades and accomplishments like if you're ranking things as a player right who's so wait what say them again what is it player of the year winning major win team of the year number one player of the year major mvp fuck the last one we can leave that off the list it's not necessary
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That's exactly how I had it.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
I think being recognized after the fact, like, and especially now in the downtime in the offseason, And the fanfare around it for the player is a positive thing. It's like, oh yeah, like within the play. And because now it's a bit of, what's the word? Not an institution. It's like a tradition, right? At the moment, like that's what it is.
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And there's so many players who are the legends, the elites who have been a part of the Hazel TV Top 20 in the past, that getting that, that is the honor there. In terms of it being your motivation throughout the year, I don't think that's... Maybe the first players, they're sitting there and they're doing their vision boards or whatever wanky shit we're doing these days.
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And they're like, I'd love to be a top 10 player in the world. Maybe that was to the level that we're talking about. But as you're in the season of playing and competing, you're there for one purpose and one purpose only. And if your focus isn't that, you're one of these fucking betas. You're one of those guys. And that's what you don't want to be.
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So what you're saying is nothing's for you anymore?
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Yeah, I would have a really hard time if I was tasked with building a top 20 list and having to come up for like justifications as to why I would put every player where. Like for me, it's clear who the best three players are this year.
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And that's the most exciting thing about the top 20 this year for me is we have this field that is a bit more open and you have these players who all kind of deliver something different and they have their own identity and it's really quite cool. Like it's really cool. Before it was Zoe versus Simple and they were...
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obviously still different in terms of their personality, but both delivering massive carry performances for their teams. That was fun within itself, and it was between the two of them. But now that it's a bit more open, I think that's great. And then outside of that, you have other elite-level players who have had great performances, like Unico's of the world, right?
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And they're still getting recognized as probably a top five or six player in the world. That, I think, is cool. But I'd put them in different bubbles, right? In different areas or different definitions, like these guys are AWPers, and these guys are this, and these guys are that.
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But it's just, I see so many people on Twitter and stuff as I'm flicking through, just getting into these like heated debates and I'm getting tagged in things. It's like, well, these guys were using Snapchat here. I'm like, what the fuck?
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i get it like it's great that it's an extension of the entertainment but if you want to make your own top 20 list as an individual like a literal in any human being in the whole world just just do it just make your list and like that's your list that's your perception um so yeah i just think that uh everybody you know shouldn't get so upset about what hazel tv are putting out there you get to make your own choices
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I have a question. How old is the kid now, Jason? He's going to turn two in January. Okay, so this is the thing. My mate, his kid just turned two. My sister's kid is two and a half. And there's a lot of, I'm not sure how much of this you're getting, right? Like, I don't know what the talking level is at, but they want to do everything themselves, even though it's things they can't do.
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Yeah, do your own list.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
They want to do it themselves. And I'm sitting there going, you can't do it yourself. You're two, you can barely walk. Can you just shut up and let me do it for you? But you can't say that because it's a two-year-old. You got to let them suffer.
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I think all kids are scared of me because I have this beard. They look at me and they go, who the fuck is this guy? They all look at me a little bit freaky, first of all. It took a little bit of a while for my sister's kid to warm up to me because I only come home once every couple of years, so.
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No, I'm swimming every day a lot. I'm down the beach. You probably can't tell with the flashbang screen that I got in my face right now, but I am starting to get a little bit browner. So that's a positive. But yeah, the conditions have been pretty windy. But you know, you get out there early enough. This is one thing you'll learn. The winds in the morning, not too bad.
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That's when you got to get out there. The swell has been all right the last couple of days. We haven't been catching any waves. Just been out there dodging the surfboards, doing a bit of body surfing, contemplating life and everything that comes with it as I exist on this globe completely on my lonesome. So yeah. No surfing, but the old man surfs.
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Sometimes I go out there and watch him trying to ride some waves. 61 years young, getting it done. Ginger. That's how you stay young. That's how you stay young. Super susceptible to skin cancer, getting melanoma cut out of him every couple of months. So yeah, he's doing great. He's having a great time. Make sure you slip, slop, slap everybody.
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Sunscreen, wear a hat, get a shirt on, wear the UVs at 11, make sure you're in the shade. All of these things, they're great tips. I don't know if any of you can use them, especially in Europe right now where it's cold and America where it's cold. Anyone north of the hemisphere? North of the hemisphere? North of the equator.
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Yeah. Except for you.
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Yeah. I'm so, like, because you guys know, I'm like a fucking party animal, man. No, so my parents came around. We ate some pizza on the balcony and watched the sunset and the fireworks on Rottnest Island. which were very distant. And then we played some games of Bananagram where I won. And then they went home and went to bed. And so did I at about 10 p.m. So, you know, had eight hours sleep.
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Pretty good night.
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Episode 120: The Rostermania Episode- FaZe, G2, Liquid, Vitality, Falcons, Cloud9, VP all changing
All three of us were in bed by midnight. Well, you guys have a good reason. You got kids. You don't have a choice.
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Yeah, it was a while ago. But I had a thought on how we could potentially do this. Because if we go through every ticket, I think we'll get through every item. But I think the way that this could be more exciting is with everything that did happen, what is the one that you guys think is the most...
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
How do I address my mom about how she plans to split her estate fairly? Given both of my brothers have passed away.
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
Both my brothers passed away young, one at 50 and one at 60. Jane, I'm sorry.
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
Yeah. So both of them left behind two kids, adult kids. Well, they were teens or early 20s, but adults. Both of them left behind two kids. So I am the sole one left and I also have two kids. So my mother is just doing her estate planning and hasn't really done much. My brothers are still on all the paperwork. So we're trying to figure all that out. And, you know, she's asking me questions.
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
I mean, does she do it where it's, you know, me one third and then both of my brother's kids would each split their father's portion?
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
Well, that was the question. She wasn't going to leave any of the third to my kids. They would have just gotten it once I passed away.
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
Other than the house, how about things where there's beneficiaries? Like, you know, accounts she has with different banks, CDs, all kinds of things like that. Does she split that?
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
And that would be split against the six grandkids then, not just the ones that lost their parents.
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
Yeah, that's what I was afraid of, so that's why I was asking.
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
No, she trusts me. Yeah, she trusts me. That's why she's listening to me to figure out.
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
None of them are married yet. So you don't know what the future will hold.
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
Um, they're mostly, a few of them have some issues, but yeah, cause they got a lot of money when their parent died. So that became a problem. Like you were kind of talking about, but they're pretty all established. Yeah.
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
I suggested that she didn't like that part.
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
Well, thank you very much for your advice. I'm going to just absorb it all in and talk to her some more.
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My Sexual Past Is Haunting My New Marriage
Hey, my question is, I was wondering how I could get my family to attend church despite my husband's resistance.
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My Sexual Past Is Haunting My New Marriage
So when we first got married, we used to go together all the time. Um, we've been together, gosh, over 10 years now. Um, and over the years he's just stopped wanting to go. Um, I, I still go, I like going, my kids like going, but it's hard when we're not all together. You know what I mean? And we've been, tell me about that being hard.
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My Sexual Past Is Haunting My New Marriage
Well, I'm a firm believer in God and everything happens for a reason. And he plays a big role in our lives. And even when you think he's not listening, he is. My husband doesn't have the same belief. I don't think it's really the church going that's bothering me. It's the lack of faith.
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My Sexual Past Is Haunting My New Marriage
And I don't know, I know he can't force anybody to do anything, but I just thought when, you know, the first however many years that it was a part of his life. And it turns out it's not anymore. And that matters a lot to me.
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My Sexual Past Is Haunting My New Marriage
I don't know. Trying to get him to talk about it is... Like pulling teeth with no Novocaine.
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My Sexual Past Is Haunting My New Marriage
I don't know. I found a book. It's called Pray For Him.
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My Sexual Past Is Haunting My New Marriage
Oh, it's a good one. It basically teaches you that you can control yourself and you keep praying for them to find their way. I've been following it. It just doesn't feel like he's wanting to change his opinions or feelings or thoughts. And I don't know if it's... worth pushing or if I just need to like stay back and be quiet about it or, and just keep going with the kids or like, you know?
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My Sexual Past Is Haunting My New Marriage
uh, we've been recently trying to get out of debt. Uh, we've been following Dave Ramsey's plan. That's kind of what sparked all this is, uh, because in Dave Ramsey's teachings, it's very, he's a very, he's a very, yeah, exactly. And I love it.
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My Sexual Past Is Haunting My New Marriage
Like he's bought, like he's bought me your books. He's bought, I think we bought pretty much everything we can from you guys. Okay. Help us get back on track. Right.
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My Sexual Past Is Haunting My New Marriage
Uh, just being happy, being able to be in a place where we can not have to worry about money or anything, you know, like the daily struggles, like to a point he doesn't have to go to work. He just, he can go to work. You know what I mean?
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My Sexual Past Is Haunting My New Marriage
Um, we're different people now than we were when we got together. Of course you were. Uh, we've, there's just a lot of things that have, what are they?
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My Sexual Past Is Haunting My New Marriage
No, no. And that's, that's the thing is like, I, I don't know what, what's changed with him. Like, He just tells me he's had these feelings come up and all of a sudden he's struggling. I'm like, okay, but where did it come from? Because I thought everything was fine.
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My Sexual Past Is Haunting My New Marriage
I know. I don't know what to say.
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My Sexual Past Is Haunting My New Marriage
You know, sometimes you just get a feeling. Yep, 100%.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Sexual Past Is Haunting My New Marriage
But I don't know. He likes to be left alone sometimes to just process things in his head and trying to respect that. But at the same time, I can see him hurting and I don't want to make anything worse. And that's kind of where I struggle. Because I care a lot. I know. Probably too much.
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My Sexual Past Is Haunting My New Marriage
All the time. Yep. Yeah, no one's perfect and I'm not in a place to judge.
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My Sexual Past Is Haunting My New Marriage
I just care. And it's hard to get through those walls.
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My Sexual Past Is Haunting My New Marriage
Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's one of the good ones. He's just hurting, I think.
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My Sexual Past Is Haunting My New Marriage
Right. It has no point in being married if you're going to leave each other alone. I know.
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My Sexual Past Is Haunting My New Marriage
I can tell him that. That's easy.
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I Gave My Husband an Ultimatum and Now He Wants a Divorce
That language kind of makes me feel weird.
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I Gave My Husband an Ultimatum and Now He Wants a Divorce
What lines and rules? That language kind of makes me feel weird.
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I’ve Been Smoking Weed Since I Was 14 (Should I Quit?)
So I was having a discussion with my sister about politics. Now, you know, I live here in Hawaii and she lives on the East coast. I know it's so, I was dumb. It was really, it's all good.
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I’ve Been Smoking Weed Since I Was 14 (Should I Quit?)
But, um, so our relationship has been over the phone primarily for the past 15 years. Oh, wow. Okay. And yeah, so we don't see each other in person. We talked, we were talking about every two, two or three times a week. Okay. Um, so calling each other all the time. Um, So, of course, we start talking about politics, and the topic of abortion came up, and I am very pro-life, and she is not.
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I’ve Been Smoking Weed Since I Was 14 (Should I Quit?)
So I made kind of the remark that I think abortion is murder, and she said, well, I guess I'm a murderer then. And... That was the end of the conversation. We haven't spoken in almost three weeks now. And so I don't, I don't know how to call, like she hasn't called me. I haven't called her. I don't know how to even call her. I don't even know what I would say.
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I’ve Been Smoking Weed Since I Was 14 (Should I Quit?)
Like, I don't know where, do I ignore it? Do I address it? I had no idea about this. I probably wouldn't have.
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I’ve Been Smoking Weed Since I Was 14 (Should I Quit?)
Well, if I think abortion is murder and then she said that she would be a murderer, then I... I think that's a leap. I guess I just... Yeah?
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I’ve Been Smoking Weed Since I Was 14 (Should I Quit?)
Yeah. I guess I hadn't thought about it that way.
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I’ve Been Smoking Weed Since I Was 14 (Should I Quit?)
Yeah. I mean, I feel like she weaponized it though. Like she just threw it out there and shut down. Yeah, but hold on.
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I’ve Been Smoking Weed Since I Was 14 (Should I Quit?)
True. Yeah, I am. Yeah.
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I’ve Been Smoking Weed Since I Was 14 (Should I Quit?)
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, she doesn't have to tell me. any of the details. I don't need to know, but I just want her to know that I'm on, you know, I'm still her sister. Like she's still my sister.
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I’ve Been Smoking Weed Since I Was 14 (Should I Quit?)
I know. I know. Um, So my position kind of comes from, I had a friend growing up and she, her parents made her have an abortion. And she said, you know, we were crying together and she said, my parents made me kill my baby. And so that's, I have a lot of, I was like 14, she was 16. And I have, so it brings up that,
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I’ve Been Smoking Weed Since I Was 14 (Should I Quit?)
story for me and and that emotion and and so I just I don't I didn't want to go there like I don't I don't want to revisit that feeling gotcha and I think your sister may have wished once that you would sit with her like you sat with your friend Yeah. I didn't even know.
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I’ve Been Smoking Weed Since I Was 14 (Should I Quit?)
It's so frustrating, too. Yeah. Like, it's also frustrating to be like, why didn't you tell me? Like, I talk to you all the time. Why didn't you tell me?
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My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
I didn't say, hey, come prepared with three goals or anything like that, which is kind of more brainstorming and let's just see how this goes. But when I asked him, hey, what are maybe some personal goals for you for the year? He didn't really have any. And so I tried to kind of press into that and...
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My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
You know, his response to me, which I love, he said, I just want to, you know, come home from work, hang out with my best friends, which is me and our two kids, and just raise my boys up in a Christian household. And so I definitely admire that. And, you know, it was just more of like, hey, if we could go anywhere on a trip, you know, outside of finances or whatever.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
you know, time restrictions or anything like that. And he's like, Hey, you know, it's not really my season to travel or anything. I just want to be at home and spend time with my family.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
Yeah. Right? Yeah.
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My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
Yeah. So I think even just simple, like, um, you know, you know, goals or anything for himself that, you know, at work, he just wants to, you know, he doesn't really want to, you know, move up in management or, you know, any, any professional goals, you know, anything move up that just kind of like status quo, but he does not like his job at all. So, um, you know, I'll
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
you know, try and help them, you know, we can look for a different job or do that. But he's like, no, it's fine. I'll just do that. You know, it's providing for my family. So I'm like, okay. Um, or, you know, I mean, he doesn't really have a good set of good guy friends to where he can, you know, pick up the phone and say, Hey, let's go play golf this weekend or something like that.
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My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
Or, you know, just small, small things like that. Um, just, I guess that community or have that group of guys for accountability. So I don't know.
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My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
I just feel the pressure of, of, I mean, yeah, I, like you said, I, I don't think I can create those goals or anything for him, but if there was anything I could do to encourage him to, you know, um, I don't know, some hobbies or do something for himself, I guess, or just saying, uh, what, what, where, um,
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
Yeah. So, you know, right now I'm, you know, I've got a six month old, but trying to get back into running. So I'm training for a half marathon at the end of the year. That's one, one kind of goal. And, you know, obviously just spending time with our kids too, you know, spending time with family, but yeah, Um, you know, my husband, he doesn't cook or anything.
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My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
Yeah, that's not how they have acted at all.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
So, I mean, I'm trying to figure out some recipes that are good for our family and that the boys will actually eat.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
It would be help with shared household chores around the house.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
You know, it'd be cooking dinner one night.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
Okay. Just having a real conversation with me.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
You know, just getting beneath the surface or, you know, like having a non-superficial conversation, I guess, just Talking about needs and wants and desires.
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My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
Well, I guess I've never allowed myself to think in this space.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
Um, I guess, I don't know. Yeah. Getting, getting back to our, like focusing on our marriage. I don't know, sitting on the couch and having a conversation versus going on our phones. Okay.
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My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
I wanted to reach out and see how I can help my husband develop passion or drive outside of our family.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
Hey, hey, doing good. Thanks so much for having me.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
Yeah, so I wanted to reach out and see how I can help my husband develop passion or drive outside of our family.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
Okay. So yeah, I recently got the idea from Rachel Cruz on her Instagram, saw her and Winston had their annual planning date. And so I brought that to my husband and said, Hey, I think we should do this. Just talk about our goals, finances, planning for the year, what that could look like for us. And so we, we did that and it's our first time to really do something like that. And so we,
The Dr. John Delony Show
Should I Tell My Teen Daughter I’m Not Her Father?
Uh, I'm okay. Uh, just trying to figure out how to deal with everything.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Should I Tell My Teen Daughter I’m Not Her Father?
I'm just really overwhelmed and anxious with moving here and all the politics that come along with moving here that I guess I wasn't really prepared for. It's very, very different from how I grew up. I grew up in a household that we didn't even talk about politics. I don't even know what my parents' politics necessarily are. It's a weird conversation in Canada, I guess.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Should I Tell My Teen Daughter I’m Not Her Father?
It's coming from both sides. I'd say I'm kind of in the middle because I live in a rural part of Ohio. I live in Cincinnati. So as you can imagine, most people around me are Republican. And then my parents and the rest of my family live in Canada, and they're not the biggest fan of the current president right now because of tariffs and everything. So every conversation I have is...
The Dr. John Delony Show
Should I Tell My Teen Daughter I’m Not Her Father?
one side of the aisle, the next side of the aisle, the one side of the aisle, the next side of the aisle. And it's a little bit much.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Should I Tell My Teen Daughter I’m Not Her Father?
I guess I would do what I'm doing in this situation. It's just I get quiet. Okay.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Should I Tell My Teen Daughter I’m Not Her Father?
I don't see any reason to be in the conversation. I don't really have an opinion when it comes to it. I don't really feel like I should in some ways, back and forth. And I just want them to feel heard. But then I'm kind of sick of hearing it, I guess, is an easy way to put it.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Should I Tell My Teen Daughter I’m Not Her Father?
Not exactly sure. Maybe my childhood. I'm not exactly sure.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Should I Tell My Teen Daughter I’m Not Her Father?
That's not a good feeling. That's not so very out of my comfort zone.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Should I Tell My Teen Daughter I’m Not Her Father?
Um, it's just because I don't know. I, I, I guess I'm a bit of a people pleaser.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Should I Tell My Teen Daughter I’m Not Her Father?
I don't like to make conflict. Uh, I like to keep everything at bay.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Should I Tell My Teen Daughter I’m Not Her Father?
But this, it's just, it's constant. It's all the time. It's in my face. I don't even feel like I can go on my phone anymore.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Should I Tell My Teen Daughter I’m Not Her Father?
Because I don't even see a single thing about politics. Doesn't matter what side it's on.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Should I Tell My Teen Daughter I’m Not Her Father?
Yes. And you can't talk to your friends.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Should I Tell My Teen Daughter I’m Not Her Father?
Yes. Even in my house. My husband talks about it all the time. He doesn't stop.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Should I Tell My Teen Daughter I’m Not Her Father?
See, this is where I start. I feel like freezing and just not saying anything. Okay, do me a favor. Exhale.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Should I Tell My Teen Daughter I’m Not Her Father?
Exactly. That's it. That's it.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Should I Tell My Teen Daughter I’m Not Her Father?
They don't probably could, but I don't think it would matter.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Should I Tell My Teen Daughter I’m Not Her Father?
I don't really want to talk about politics.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Should I Tell My Teen Daughter I’m Not Her Father?
Okay. Let's talk about what we're going to do this summer, or something along those lines, I guess.
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I’m in Love With Two Brothers
Am I right or wrong? Oh, gosh. Yeah, pretty much.
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I Had an Affair in the First Year of Marriage
Oh, I'm just perfect. You know, that's why I'm calling you. I have no problem. Yeah, obviously not.
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I Had an Affair in the First Year of Marriage
Yeah, well, one of the biggest ones currently, my father and father-in-law have recently cut ties with us because we are just really hesitant to jump back into resolving a very long ongoing issue or issues that we've had with them since we were married about a year ago.
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I Had an Affair in the First Year of Marriage
Oh dear. So I kind of wrote a summary and I can try to give you the story. There's just so much to the story. I'll start by also saying that I know what I'm about to say is going to sound like something straight off of Reddit, like something made it up. That's how we feel too. And it's our life. So I don't know.
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I Had an Affair in the First Year of Marriage
Yeah. So a little over a year ago, my husband and I got married and while things were initially great with my in-laws, tensions began to rise midway through our engagement. I think my mother-in-law ultimately struggled with the transition of my husband leaving home. He still lived at home at the time.
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I Had an Affair in the First Year of Marriage
So she was upset that we were not like spending enough time with them while he was still living at home, even though like we were still coming over like two to three times a week during the last two months of our engagement.
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I Had an Affair in the First Year of Marriage
So at the time, my husband was 22, about to be 23, and I was 24, about to be 25.
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I Had an Affair in the First Year of Marriage
So anyway, three weeks before the wedding, she completely lost it. And she actually physically attacked my husband and used horrible vulgarities to describe her feelings to him about me. She threatened to object to the wedding and told him that she was praying that we would break up.
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I Had an Affair in the First Year of Marriage
Yeah. So... It's the part where it sounds like I'm lying to you.
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I Had an Affair in the First Year of Marriage
Yeah. She said that I was a master manipulator and I was trying to take my husband away from his family. And the reason she gave for this was because I acted uncomfortable in her home. But she didn't really correlate that to the fact that she was not treating me very nicely. From the house during our engagement.
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I Had an Affair in the First Year of Marriage
He tried to the best way he knew how. Unfortunately, the behaviors of his mother and father were something that were normal to him. And I think he didn't really understand fully. You know what I mean? And it did cause a lot of issues for us. I'll be honest. And, you know, I'm so thankful that we...
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I Had an Affair in the First Year of Marriage
we fought for each other and we came through, but it was so, so hard because I, I did, I felt crazy and I felt like, you know, he was kind of unsure how to handle the situation fully. And since we've, you know, we'll get into that. We've been trying to move forward, but yeah, it, yeah.
The Dr. John Delony Show
I Had an Affair in the First Year of Marriage
Yeah, that's exactly what's going on.
The Dr. John Delony Show
I Had an Affair in the First Year of Marriage
Yeah, so to try to sum up, over the course of the last year, like last spring and summer, we tried continuously to reach out and talk to them. And every time we were met with hostility, they think they're blameless. They think that everything they did was justified and that we were the villains in the story.
The Dr. John Delony Show
I Had an Affair in the First Year of Marriage
I agree. It's, I, yeah, I know.
The Dr. John Delony Show
I Had an Affair in the First Year of Marriage
Um, we found out you're pregnant last, um, last September. And so at that point we were like, Oh no. Um, because we figured... We knew that they wanted grandkids, put it that way. But we obviously were still dealing with the behaviors that we're talking about.
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I Had an Affair in the First Year of Marriage
So we tried to invite them to meet us in a public place, and we wanted to try to talk calmly, try to address their feelings, try to talk about ours, try to reach common ground, if that makes sense. And That did not last long. They quickly resorted to yelling and accusing us of, you know, being the bad guys.
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I Had an Affair in the First Year of Marriage
And she actually, my mother-in-law left, after about five minutes of them screaming at us, she left there and told us that they were happier not talking to liars. So that was, at that point, I was like eight weeks pregnant.
The Dr. John Delony Show
I Had an Affair in the First Year of Marriage
Well, I think the bottom line is that, you know, obviously we love them and we don't want to just give them up and act like.
The Dr. John Delony Show
I Had an Affair in the First Year of Marriage
I would agree with that. I would, but.
The Dr. John Delony Show
I Had an Affair in the First Year of Marriage
The reality is now I'm due in about a month.
The Dr. John Delony Show
I Had an Affair in the First Year of Marriage
I don't know. Unfortunately, we felt that way for most of the big life events. That's how our wedding was. I know. Now it's the baby too.
The Dr. John Delony Show
I Had an Affair in the First Year of Marriage
Oh yeah. Yeah. We, we have a healthy relationship with my side.
The Dr. John Delony Show
I Had an Affair in the First Year of Marriage
It's hard. You know, it's very sad. I hate the statistics of, you know, the in-laws and the evil daughter-in-laws. And I don't want that to be our reality. I didn't want any of this to be the reality.
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I Had an Affair in the First Year of Marriage
I have a follow-up question, if that's possible.
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I Had an Affair in the First Year of Marriage
Yeah. So we're currently, we started going to counseling, just the two of us, trying to kind of sort through all this. And, you know, it's kind of been an idea of my husband's that, like, we could potentially still be around them in extended family settings for the sake of family.
The Dr. John Delony Show
I Had an Affair in the First Year of Marriage
Can I ask why you'd say no to that? Like, what's the reason for that?
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Harper’s Quitting School!
Harper's a crazy rap track writer. What did she read? What did she say?
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Harper’s Quitting School!
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Harper’s Quitting School!
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Harper’s Quitting School!
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Harper’s Quitting School!
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Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
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Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
A girl named Erica Givens who is a friend of mine's sister-in-law.
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Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
So that's how we find the nannies.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
Um, okay. So Trevor.
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Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
But the number one thing I do is like, I ask for a resume. And then the other thing too, is you do a vibe check when they get there and just know, just know, like you can always cancel even when they get there on the spot.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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Like, that's one thing I always tell myself is like, if she came here, I can, if I have to not go to the wedding, that's the, that peace of mind is, is the only thing that matters.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
Totally. And I think if you, this is a, what?
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
Yeah, and we text about every 30 minutes and just say update. And one thing that the nanny like did leave me on read for like 20 minutes. And I was asking her if she drank her bottles. And then she read the text and she didn't respond. And I was like, okay, I'm going to give her 30 minutes like tops to not reply. And if she doesn't reply at the 30-minute mark, I'm just going to go back and check.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
And then she responded and was like, sorry, I was putting her down for a nap.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
Yes.
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Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
Oh, that's very nice of you. You're welcome.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
So one thing we're going to talk about later in this episode is default parents because we had a listener write in, but I do want to say something right here. One thing I think you and I are good at that we weren't good at at the beginning, but we've gotten good at is delegating a task. So like I was on baby quip, which is the rentals and I was on nanny organization. You were on flights and hotel.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
Yeah, it could have. It could have. But no, I was down to take it. But I remember it was the Monday before we left and we were like, we need to do the nanny. And you said, can that be a you thing?
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
Just a different neighborhood. But the house is awesome. And they want to sell it. Okay, so we've got motivated sellers. The thing about the house we just saw, which... It was truly like my jaw was on the floor. It was unbelievable. It was floor to ceiling windows like unreal.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
She doesn't. Lippers and leapers. Lippers is kiss and leapers is sleep. Okay. Can we talk about Trevor now?
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
Okay. So Trevor worked at our hotel and he's a little three-year-old girl. I, we, we want to, I'm going to call the hotel, the line lights where we stayed and get Trevor's name, not name his Venmo, but okay. So Trevor was there working and Harrison and I, like we got delayed eight hours, I think.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
No, no. So we're sitting in the lobby and we just like, we're kind of basing out of the lobby and our flight was getting delayed by the hour. So like we would sit there, like work a little, go walk a little, come back. And so we were very clearly like displaced. And then Trevor came around and he was like, okay, what flight are you guys on? We were like the one to Austin.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
And they don't give you like a lot of clarity, especially at Aspen because there's four gates total, I think.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
Like it's such a small airport. So. Anyways, we're kind of confused. We call American Airlines. They were jaw droppingly unhelpful, which was, you know, it's fine. It's just you're in a line. But Trevor saw us doing this song and dance. He came over and he was like, all right, I'm going to figure this out for you. So he like walks off to the corner and he like makes a phone call.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
He comes back and he's like, the flight is going to land between 830 and nine. It'll be a 20 minute turnaround and it will take off tonight. And I was like, Trevor, how did you know that? And he's like, I also work at the airport. So I called my manager and I happen to work exactly at American Airlines. And I was like, oh, OK. On the weekends, maybe Trevor works at the airport.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
We go to the airport. OK. This is three hours later. We're boarding the flight. And at Aspen, you go outside to get on the airplanes. And this guy steps in front of me in this like full American Airlines gear. He's like, I need to see your boarding pass. And I was like, Trevor. And he was like, yep. And I was like, you're already. And he's like, yeah, I worked back to back. He worked at the hotel.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
He called the guy to like get the airline. And I'm like, Trevor, you probably knew you were going to be working our flight later. And he was. I loved it. Oh, my God. And I think he was happy that we recognized him because he was like all in the thing. And I was just staring at him like, Trevor? And he was like, yep.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
I just love stories like that. But what?
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
We're going to.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
We're calling the limelight. We're saying I need Trevor's Venmo.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
No, not at all. Trevor, if this gets to them, they need to know that Trevor needs a gold star for customer service.
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Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
He was incredible.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
No, I think that we need to give credit where credit is due.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
Yeah, and he's a three-year-old girl because when he first saw me with Bubbers, he walked by and he was like, I love that age. How old is she?
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
Yeah, we'll just set to see what we do.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
Totally. Yeah. Trevor's like, I would like to make a list of people who just, you know, on Christmas or something, just like once a year when a brand says like, cause I got, I got like four diaper bags the other day. I just want to give a different address. Pop those to Trevor. New customers to Magnetic Me.
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Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
Yeah.
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Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
Yeah. Well, we have to, I would love to think of another term of massage here, but we have to massage the idea.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
So we get on the airplane and if you've ever flown with a baby, you know that the number one thing to do when you're flying with a baby is you get up and you do the dad aisle paces. I call it where they're crying. But the moment you stand up, they're so happy. They're looking around and dad walks up and down the aisle and the babies are so happy. Tate has been on 14 flights on all 14 of them.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
on budget we'd have to stretch like it's it's so we have like the top of our budget and this is like 10 above that which not ideal and then the second thing about it is it's so funny when you have a kid the way you think about houses because like when it's just you and i oh we would have moved in that house in a minute yeah i actually think it's a dream house for when your parent when kids are gone to college like that would be the hq in austin we would live there we would like walk places
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
Harrison has done the dad pace. And he gets up to do the dad pace and the flight attendant goes over to him and he's like, sir, you cannot be walking up and down the aisles with the babies. And I was like, no, we needed that.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
And I just think like she was, she was a very sweet flight attendant. So it was kind of confusing, but she was really on this baby thing. And she was really on the dogs being under the seat and their carriers. She was like, the dog has to be in the carrier. And it was like, that dog's not hurting anyone.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
I'm fine with that as well. I just think the one, the other thing that kind of got me was then you said, okay, I'm going to go change your diaper because we were desperate. Like she needed to pace on this aisle. Can I go back? Yeah.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
I just think that also where it could have come from was like... Maybe one time a dad was pacing with a baby and like wasn't reading the room. Like you're very good about getting, it wasn't a full flight. So if somebody does get up to go to the bathroom and you're in their way, you can step into an empty seat. Like it's like a 50% full flight. And so I do think that's a big factor of it.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
But what happened, so then Harrison was like, okay, I'm going to go to the bathroom right there and I'll go in there and stand and I'll change her diaper. So he like stands up in the flight and he's like, what are you doing? And we're like, he's going to change her diaper. She was like, there's no changing table in there. And I just leaned over and I was like, what do you want us to do?
Two Parents & A Podcast
Being the “default parent” (+ moving into a hotel & crying babies on planes)
Like, I was like, he'll have to change her on his lap in the bathroom then. And she was like, okay, yeah. And I was like, I mean, what, you want us to change her on the floor right here?
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Right.
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Yeah, because I do think the dad pace in the aisle is pretty out of everyone's way.
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There was patios outside. The master suite was unreal. But like that's not where I want my square footage to go now. I want like a playroom.
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So my view on it's changed now having a kid.
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I like to think that... you know, just because you have a kid, you're allowed to travel, right? I don't think you should stay home because you have a baby. And what I've realized is most parents are doing the best they can to like keep their kids quiet and not be a nuisance for everybody. And like I very much so start sweating when she starts crying because I feel so bad for everyone around us.
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What I did notice though was I had my noise canceling headphones in yesterday and you were holding her and And it took me like 30 seconds to realize she was crying. So I just think, I do think in 2025, let's get some noise canceling headphones.
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We had that girl when we were that three across to wherever we were.
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He raw-dogged the flight. He had no book, no headphones, no phone.
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No headphones. No phone.
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He didn't do anything on the way there or back.
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In my mind, his name is Carl. And like he just, when he sat down beside us, I just thought you're joking me. And guess what he thought? You're joking me. We had him there and back. Carl. So Carl definitely lives in Austin. Yeah.
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And he's got a very cute dog.
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Well, let's go on the topic of flight. Let's go to my things that I DM'd you. So the things that I DM'd you is this frontier versus Southwest, um, little competition that's going on where basically Southwest, they redid some of their guidelines. And so now they're charging for bags.
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A playroom. in a big walk-in closet is on a top 10 list for me, but a playroom's a top two. You know, like I want a yard and a playroom.
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So Frontier clapped back and was like, okay, we're going to give people free bags if you use code, let's say, free bag. And they said for like a month. And we're going to see how many people, if it brings over a lot of new customers, we're going to keep doing free bags. I love it. I love a little internet like, it's very poppy versus ollie pop.
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Very like brand, one brand makes the other brand better.
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So do you remember back at the end of last year, there was that Spirit Airlines congressional hearing that came out? And basically, they were saying you've spent $26 million paying employees to find overweight bags. And on Spirit Airlines, when you have an overweight bag, they charge you $75. But $10 of that goes to the employee.
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So you know how on American, for example, if you go up there and your bag's 52 pounds, right? Most the time, if you're nice, then the gate agent's like, no big deal. Let's just push it through. Well, that Spirit Airlines person's getting $10 every time they find a bag overweight. So they're just popping you and then you have to pay $75.
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We need a playroom. No, like, and it doesn't have to be a big playroom either. It could be an area of the living room. But this house didn't have, like, where would she play? Oh, that's not fair.
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So they were paying the agents to find the overweight bags, which was just charging the consumers more money. Isn't that wild?
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Well, you just had a United... I just what? You just read like a United example.
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That I, you know, I can get behind the vibe change, but I do think a lot of times like they're weather dependent.
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Yeah, I mean, I don't understand how the passengers wouldn't be able to get on the plane without their passports. Unless they got on and left it in the bathroom or something, I guess. But my thing is this.
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The airlines, though, should go to bat for their pilots, right? They should go to bat for their passengers and their pilots. They should protect their pilots. So the airlines should say, everyone's getting $2,000.
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And a voucher.
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And just say, like, we're going to go to bat. Like, we're going to protect our employees, but we're also going to protect our passengers.
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I also just think you have to have a happy kid friendly house. This very much so is giving like bachelor pad or kid in high school.
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Good. How are you?
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Ready? We're going to go to what you deemed me now. Okay.
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You are doing great. I think you're doing a 9. You're doing a performance of a 9.
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Okay, so, all right, and then you, what did you DM me?
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Well, you DMed me about the little goldfish.
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I, the, the video that you specifically deemed as a little girl and she gives it the goldfish to her mom and says, you're welcome. And they're like so proud of her and they give her a kiss.
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Well, not even the genuine, like, okay. Yes, of course the genuine positives. I'd be like, I want to do that with her. There's so many little things out there that the internet teaches me that like sharing, for example, is what I'm really interested in. And so that's an exercise I would like to do with her like a couple of times a week.
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I think it's like in my TikTok that I made, that I'm making throughout the day today. Okay. So it is a bit in there. So the housing update is we are on the timeline. What is the date today? Yeah, I mean, we, okay, this is what we did do, though. So we made a what happens if. And April 15th, if we don't have our house, what do we do? We move into a hotel.
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Then at the wedding, I learned something too, where, so when they reach toddler age, okay. And they have like, let's say they're having a tantrum or something. One, like getting down on their level to speak to them. But two, okay, the baby did this on the trail. Do you remember this? There was that like three or four-year-old on the bike. And she said, watch out to us.
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And her mom said she was really sweet. I think her name was like Katie. She said, Katie, come back here. So Katie came back there and the mom got down. And she said, we don't talk to people saying watch out. We say sweeter words like excuse me.
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You didn't?
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Oh, I was like loving the whole interaction.
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No, but I loved how the mom was like mortified. She was like, oh my gosh, no. Sweetheart, say excuse me.
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No, I thought it... But I liked how the mom was like, let's say something sweeter.
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But the thing that I learned at the wedding was instead of saying just no, Like don't do that because they can't process no and they don't know where to go from no. So what you actually say is replace it with this.
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And so there's like little things like that, but the sharing is something that I would love to implement.
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No. I haven't seen that. So there's some videos where kids don't share.
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That's sad.
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No, but hopefully then the kids learn.
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Speaking of like that though, I do think if your kid didn't share, right, if you posted that video, do you know one area that I found to be very helpful?
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The comment section. And do you know where I found it to be helpful? That video I made talking to Tate where she kept grabbing my mouth.
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I thought it was because I was wearing red lipstick. Do you know why it actually was? So they say.
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She wants to touch where she sees the sound coming out of. So she sees it coming out of my mouth. And so she gets really like into my mouth and she tries to touch it.
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Isn't that the cutest thing ever?
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It's really the most amazing community ever. And one thing that you learned was you went and bought the cute little dress. And then the comment was saying, oh, you should make it a tradition.
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Yes. Go ahead and now respond to the comment.
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Yes. Let me find it. Um, okay. So do this year, Victoria, the travel planner says, do this every year for her birthday. Take her to pick out a special dress. It would make the sweetest tradition all the way up to her wedding day. I didn't know she said wedding day.
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And we play, instead of Eloise at the Plaza, we play Tate at the wherever. Okay. Like I don't want to do hotel life, but like it's our option. And so you teach me a lot about the power of perspective. And so we're just reframing it into that would be really fun.
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Are you going to go with her to get her wedding dress?
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I want to bring like... But every morning...
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Babas with taras.
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Every single morning.
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And leapers on the chest.
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She does leapers for 30 minutes and then she gets babas with taras.
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You're being hard on yourself because think about what you did during the holidays. She's only had one holiday and you killed those holidays. You killed Halloween, Thanksgiving and Christmas. And those are traditions, I think.
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You definitely can. Maybe it's taking her to see animals or something. Or an adventure once a month on a Saturday. But just see what naturally fits and then make that a tradition.
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It could be.
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You love taking her on the boat. That's a fun tradition.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Right.
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You used to take her to the coffee shop every morning.
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I love that you want to do things with her. This is kind of a fun segue into one thing that I want to talk about. Oh, let's hear the default parent.
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Because somebody wrote in talking about how, what's the specific question being the default parent is exhausting. Do you deal with this?
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Basically the default parent is the one who takes on the largest, like mental load, who an example is like knows the name of the kindergarten teacher. who knows, for example, for us, it would be knows how to pack the nanny share bag, who the majority of the heavy lifting falls on. That's the default parent. And the other parent doesn't know how to do their job, the person's job.
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So one way I think about it a lot is like, I think you assume most of the time the default parent's the mom. And where I want to give you a lot of credit is I think that we're both as even of default parents as we possibly can be.
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Well, we saw it this morning when you packed the nanny share bag.
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Yeah. This morning. So the path, like while we were gone, altitude was just hard on our girl and she was waking up every three hours to eat. And I think she was thirsty. That's a much better analogy. Milky is how she gets her water as well. That's her hydration. And I was waking up to chug water. So I know she was really thirsty. So I just wasn't sleeping while we were gone.
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And then last night, I had to pump when we got back. So I went to bed around like 2.30.
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morning then bubbers woke up at six because she was hungry and so it's like this i've lost a lot of sleep lately and so you just like looked at my calendar this morning saw i could sleep until 10 30 and just like set my alarm and then brought me my pump parts and brought me a coffee and like i i'm a better mom when i get that sleep when i lose sleep it's over the great rewards hunt is on so join the adventure with draft kings casino for fun seekers follow the trail to huge jackpots weekly bonuses and exclusive games
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Okay, but I actually don't... So there's two things I don't think we're... Okay, so I like this conversation. It was sweet. But we're not actually hitting default parent because this isn't actually... Now that I'm thinking about it, this isn't default parent stuff. This is you and I working together as parents. Default parent, I don't know...
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Default parent would be if somebody asked us how many ounces does she drink a day? And I know the answer, but you don't.
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So there's like five or six houses that we like, ish, we sort of like, and they're all So let me, I am trying to understand this. If one comes down, and we live in one right now, okay? This is an overpriced house. If one comes down, do they all come down? Or is somebody going to try to like hold on?
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And so I do want to say this on it, though. I don't think it's bad if there's a default parent. I think that I think there could be a default parent. Maybe one works a ton. And one doesn't. So maybe that is just more naturally the default parent. There was also an article I read that was talking about is if you are the default parent, is it your fault? Right.
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So also saying like, OK, do you just go do it all and don't have your partner come with you? Don't loop them in on it. Like the fact that she has a favorite blankie, you know. Maria texted me that. If I never told you this is her favorite one, maybe you wouldn't have known. But also the first time she did something was with you. And then you told me.
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So maybe I don't think that being a default parent is a bad thing at all or having a default parent is a bad thing. I just think it's a bad thing if you want to change it, if you don't like being the default parent, if you want more help. That's where I think you loop in your friend.
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Well, I've got another example.
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This is where I think default parent. Actually, I can hit it on the head right here.
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Something that the neighbor girl and I talked about. was every day at four o'clock, the nanny shares up, okay? One area where her and I are really thankful is it's very much so a text message conversation because the neighbors work kind of like we do, from home sometimes, at the office sometimes, but they're not at the office nine to five every day, okay? So we all kind of have the same work.
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But at four o'clock, it's not just that her and I have to go pick up the babies. It's very much so, are you getting her or am I getting her today? Or are we going together? But I don't feel like 4 o'clock falls on me every single day.
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So if somebody's like down to wait, then they'll wait till next year or something.
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And if 4 o'clock fell on me every single day and I was the only one rearranging my day and I went to get her and I was the one that always asked how much milk did she drink, that's where I think I would become the default parent. That's our most present day example I can think of.
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Yes, every single night you do.
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Yeah, I do track her milk.
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But it's good you know she drinks 25 ounces a day. Yeah. But you're going to take on, what did we just decide you're taking on? Solids. Solids.
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So we had a conversation on Monday and Harrison said, can I take on solids? And I was like, please take on solids. But it's looking like I'm going to take on the sleep transition. I'm actually going to ask you to tag team me on that one.
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But the market's not any better now, right?
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But I think, but I think what I think we're not, I think to answer the question is this, we had pumping was a very sore spot for me. And I, and I harbored a lot of resentment for you because I was like, I can't get very far away from her. Yep.
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I also can't stay up late and then wake up in the middle of the night and then do it again in the morning without a little bit more of attention from you, which where I have to give you a lot of credit is I said it once and you really heard me. So thank you.
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Yes, but I think that one thing that also could have worked was I was just fine doing it. But if you start to harbor the resentment, that's where I think you have to say something. Because guess what? There are a lot of moms and a lot of dads out there that would love to be the default parent. I didn't want to be the default parent. I really wanted it to be both of us.
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And so we kind of designed our life around that way. But I know a lot of girls who would love to be the default parent.
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And I think that's a really beautiful thing. But the person that wrote in, it's causing her a lot of anxiety. So what I would say to you, And I don't have all the answers, but I'll just tell you what I would do if I were in your shoes. I would pick two tasks, and this is what I did with pumping, that I really needed help on, and I would take them to him. And I would say, can you help me here?
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And I would imagine his answer will be, absolutely, thank you for asking.
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But on that note, a comment that I have received in my DMs, a couple, when I said I was going to keep going on pumping and breastfeeding, they messaged me and multiple girls. So shout out to the mom community. But they said, Quit pumping on a good day because then you'll respect your decision. Don't quit pumping the day you hang up the pumps and you say, I'm done pumping and you want to wean off.
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Do it on a day where like you're loving it because that's a mentally good decision. Don't do it on a day where you hate it. And I thought I will.
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Yeah. So that, that really sat with me. Um, so thank you guys for that. Um, okay. So our brain break is a fast one. It's, it's really sweet text.
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Well, one thing I have become extremely confident in is that we are responsible. Because like irresponsible me would have loved the house we just saw. But it took me five minutes after leaving. And it's just like, no, we're not going to live there.
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Well, I love it. I love that.
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What I think is cute is, like, their videos and, like, to have the screenshots is, like, probably on, like, a part of her face that's really cute. They take, like... I think that's the sweetest thing ever. But one thing that's cool for them... Because, like, I know your mom knows how to work TikTok and, like, does do the TikTok. She said... She said it the other day.
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She's like, I love to get in bed and just do a TikTok scroll. And I'm like, same. But to have like a digital scrapbook of your granddaughter is like a really cool thing.
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You know?
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So that's, it's kind of like a FaceTime with her.
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No, that's really cute. No, he follows this golfer guy.
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He showed me some golfer. I think he's maybe on YouTube. But yeah, there's a golfer guy out there that he likes. And he does something funny. I don't know what it is, but yeah. He has one guy that he follows, I think. Yeah, but you should call him.
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No, like we need to have a kid-friendly house that makes a lot of sense that we feel good about with the budget.
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I think that I'm going to because what I've learned about you is like – You are a dreamer. So you'll come back and be like, I'm 99% sure I saw the house that's like the house. And then I'll go see it. And I'll just be like, and with what money are we redoing the whole house?
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It does make sense. But I do think instead of, I think it's more important, not more important, but a good type of importance is realizing like we love the walkability of this house. Okay. There's a lot of good walkability places in Austin and we found a house that we absolutely loved, but you couldn't walk. Neither of us wanted it. So I think we value walkability.
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Yeah, so I think just acknowledging that is important.
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Yeah, and then adjusting accordingly what we want. Because we looked at some great houses, but you can't walk anywhere. Yep. Okay, so again, I wish we had another update, but the update is at April 15th, we will move, oh my God, into a hotel, which we will make fun of.
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Well, the way I'm handling it is I'm embracing it.
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You've taught me about that. Thank you. You've really changed my mind on that.
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Come with that what may. Okay, so we just got back from Aspen, the land of, as Harrison puts it, the good-looking ladies.
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No, I'm sorry. I don't mean like that. I just, you thought that like the women were, they looked really nice. Like not in a weird way.
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You said that the girls had good drip.
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We quite literally walked by a guy in a Louis Vuitton jacket with multicolored LVs all over it. And it was like white. Remember him?
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We passed him. I was like, do you want to go get one of those jackets? And Harrison just looked at me and shook his head and was just like, what? It's just like they find designer stuff and put that on.
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I see what you did there. That was funny. So whenever I bought my diaper bag, which is my most beloved thing because it just reminds me of Tatey's, they had the pink one, the pink handle, or they had the regular tan handle. And I remember you wanted me to get the tan one, but it's a diaper bag. The pink one feels diaper bag.
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So logistically, I love it because it's walkable. I think that, I like it. I actually think I would rate it my favorite ski town in America.
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It's unbelievable.
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Yeah, but they've preserved the character of the town, which I love. I do not understand what's happening with Kemosabe, though. We walked by, and what were they singing? Party rockin' on the house tonight.
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Yeah, like the classic hat store where you go and it's really Instagrammable. They need to be playing country. Or 80s or something like classic. I don't know. That really threw me off. But you had a bone to pick with Harrison Saul's first Birkin price, I think.
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I would say in another life, that was probably my dream house. But not with a kid.
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You made a TikTok about it.
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He came into the, you are, I was in the dressing room. He came in there and he was like, there is this purse. Guess how much this purse is. And I was like, I've never really like actually known like the prices of them. So I don't even think I could have really guessed. But there were Birkins all over that store. Kelly's or whatever you call them.
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But let's save this. Can we go? Okay, ready?
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Oh, wait. If it's coming off like we didn't have a blast, we had a blast.
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But I will say this, actually. Outside of that Caesar salad and the $90 shrimp cocktail, everything was, I would say, 10% above average, but not astronomically. I think they were New York prices.
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like which put my jaw on the floor several times throughout the weekend that's fair um i yeah i just thought that the pride like this the town itself is unbelievable and the fact that you landed at the airport and you're at your hotel in 15 minutes it's beautiful like i really enjoyed it yeah and the wedding we were at was like actually a 10 out of 10 wedding like nailed it all three nights um
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I do love like a ranch style wedding. It was out on this like beautiful ranch.
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Let's hop right into it because we just literally just came back from touring two houses, both of which we could walk to, which means the three L's of real estate are in play. Location, location, location. And they were two totally different houses.
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What's the show where you have a category and then you pick the 10 things below it?
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No, it's Jeopardy. Okay, let's play Jeopardy. It plays as not to take kids. So you go wedding.
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Movie theater.
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But we're playing a game.
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Okay, Family Feud.
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You got to pick one.
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Nightclub?
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She would hate it. She wants to go to Leapers.
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You got to go. I'm winning.
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Hair salon?
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The fumes?
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Workout class is a really good one.
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Okay. That could be distracting. I'm cooking class. She just likes to grab things.
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Do you have another one?
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No, I come on. We can do more. I think concerts are fine. She loved her hockey game.
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A painting class would be terrible. Can't do a painting class. She'd be grabbing. Okay. So a lot of people asked us when we were in Aspen, what did we do with tater tot whenever we left? And like, how do you find nannies or babysitters in these towns? One, you start with people, you know, so you ask them. Two, you call the hotel. And your sister had a great hack for this.
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If she's not staying, like if she's staying at an Airbnb or something, she calls a nice hotel and says like, I'm thinking about booking there, but I just want to make sure I can get a babysitter. Do you have a rec of babysitters? And they'll give her a list. And then in this case, there was this thing called askbanannies.com. And so I went to the website because I was a little skeptical of it.
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But I'm really proud of us. And we're seeing another one tonight at 5.30, which I'm hopeful for. Like, that is... Okay, so here's the thing, you guys. The two we saw today were bending for the location. This one that we're seeing later, still a great location.
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And you could tell by the website like this was a fully vetted service. So then they match you with a nanny. And then one thing that I always do is I ask for a resume. And then on the resume, I read to see if there's like recs and references. And there was. And so that's how we do it.
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He would have.
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And, uh, it's so, they did so much with so little, if you look at it just, you know, based on its appearance, I mean, it's not like a graphically spectacular game or graphically dynamic game, but gosh, do they execute it so well? The combat is so fun and so diverse and the, uh, the dialogue is so fun and engaging. And, uh, you know, it, it, it's, tremendous success.
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I don't have to say that to anybody, but tremendous success. I am so looking forward to the full release of the second one.
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Yeah. I was like when when you mentioned that this was going to be the topic of this show and we're sort of curating it. I started thinking immediately. I was like, my top five indies is almost my top five just games in general. You know, I. Yeah.
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And you can. It's a solid, yep.
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Yeah, which by anybody watching, there's a little, I just dropped it. Good job, John. There's a product called Backbone that's like a controller that you connect to your phone and it allows you to basically play any streaming service games like GeForce Now or Steam or Xbox Game Pass. And, man, if you don't have one, I think they're like $100, dude.
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You can take Halo and Hades with you on the go just about anywhere. You just connect it to your phone. It's a device that everyone has. It's like $100, man. It's like so worth it. Best portable gaming device I've ever seen.
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Is it avania something?
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I'd say it's my favorite, too. I don't know if it's just a nostalgia factor or something like that, but I love Metroidvanias, man.
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We've had several conversations about this where indie games tend to feel like they have a lot more heart and they're able to take better risks because the financial risk is not as important. Well, it's probably more important, honestly.
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I haven't. I was raised Catholic and we don't talk about religion or politics or anything on the show. But what I can tell you is, I don't think this is crossing any barriers saying this, is that Catholicism has some of the coolest lore in religions. Yeah.
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Um, whether, whether or not you are Catholic or Christian or, or whatever, uh, I think that you would gain some value going to the Vatican, Vatican city in, in Rome and just seeing the, the grandiosity of it. And it's like, so, so brilliantly bright and loving and so dark and grim at the same time. It's like, honestly, it's like the religious world.
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or something like the grim darkness of the far past or something. It's really cool, man. So the fact that you've made that comparison with this game, I may have to check it out.
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Well, you lost me there. It's not easy.
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I'll be waiting for you guys in the kiddie pool, I guess.
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They put a lot on the line. Yeah, exactly. Sink or swim. Yeah, a bad game will probably tank an independent studio. But it happens with the bigger titles, too. Anyway. Most of my favorite games are indies, so this is awesome.
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there's just nothing like it is one of the best roguelikes in my opinion of all time let alone indie games like just it's amazing can you explain the guy i'm like kind of embarrassed to say because you guys have gushed about this game so much but i i don't know anything about it i have a total blind spot to this game can you briefly explain like what it is
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Is it like an arena shooter? What is it?
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Thanks for butchering that quote, by the way. I know. My name is not Shirley. I like indie games.
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sort of a sub genre in indie games that really speaks to me. And it's the smaller, um, smaller sort of like action platformer horror games, like the whimsical horror games. And, uh, so there's like kind of like a couple of honorable mentions here, but like limbo, I loved limbo, um, inside. I loved inside. Either of those could have taken this, but, uh, this game, uh,
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This game is so impactful for me, especially on a soundtrack level that it just I mean, the whole game is just brilliant to me. I love it. This could have easily been like a number one game of all time contender for me. And it made it even cooler that we got to talk to not only the narrative director of this game, but also the composer of this game. And it is a game called Little Nightmares 2.
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Um, I've talked about it quite a bit on our discord where we kind of give each other game recommendations. The game only takes maybe five to six hours to beat, maybe a little longer if you want to really, uh, string it out or whatever. But the. Basically, you take the role of a nameless character who is running through these perfectly crafted little horror sequences.
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And you're kind of like unraveling the story as it goes. And it builds on the lore that was established in the first one. And I love it because there's not a lot of exposition. You are discovering what the story is, what the game is all about as you're playing it with basically no dialogue. But the ending of this game is one of the most impactful. I get chills just thinking about the ending.
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There's, it is so good guys. I mean, like it, you can, you can find it on like a Nintendo e-store or steam pretty cheap. Now it's been out for a while. And, uh, for the price of a movie ticket, basically you're going to get one of the most, if not the most finely crafted horror experiences that I've ever played. I cannot recommend it enough.
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And it helps that the people who made the game are freaking awesome people too. That always helps.
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Yeah, see, and this is tough. I think I really liked the first game quite a bit. The first game was was really good. And a lot of it's funny because my next game kind of falls into the same trap. So we'll get to that in a second. But The first game was good, but I think that if you didn't really like it, you might not have been so compelled to play the second one.
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But the second one is leaps and bounds better than the first one. Ace, bro, it's worth a few hours. I'm going to get to it.
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Ryan, I don't know if you're into this, but it would be very well worth your time, too.
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You want to be cool, man. This is what you listen to.
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It is the weakest, weakest weapon in the game.
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I think it's a game that would have broad appeal. There's a lot of indie games that fall into this where it's like, man, if anyone just gave this a chance, they would love it. This would appeal to so many people. But again, sort of double-edged blade of being indie is that they don't have the...
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Is it safe to say you're also like a Nickelback fan and a Creed fan? Like, like really over.
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We're just going to start comparing every movie or every game to a studio Ghibli movie. We'll, we'll have that. We'll have that market cornered.
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can't win if you don't play ace you know that's all there is to it yeah you're fair enough john do you know anything about lethal company are you familiar with it no um i'll be honest most of my gaming preferences are in sort of single player narratives so this type of game generally doesn't like have a
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Before any of us started working together on this podcast, I was a fan of this podcast for a long time, and there's a lot of talk about gaming nights and the community that... you know, was so strong that I'd heard about, but like, you know, I just never, that never appeal. I like games.
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There's a lot of big, steamy piles of poop that have made a lot of money out there.
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I like games for basically like being able to play a scenario through somebody else's lens and multiplayer gaming was never really a thing for me. And honestly, it's because of the exposure to you fine gentlemen and the discord community, which is the very best that exists in gaming. that I'm starting to have a budding interest, man.
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Playing Rivals and Halo with everybody has kind of opened things up. So I might be more open to a game like this in the future as long as I have some time between the absolute banger titles that are coming out over and over and over again this year. If I can find the time. Yeah, man. Maybe next year. I don't know. But yeah.
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So number two, um, again, this could have easily been one of my favorite games of all time. And this one out of all the games that are on my list for some reason seems to be the one that is most missed, even though there was a great initial game. Although the initial game is nothing compared to the sequel. Um,
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You know, there surely was a great audience, but I'm surprised there hasn't been like a whole franchise that was built around this. It is a game called Ori and the Will of the Wisps. I have that collection. And so this is a Metroidvania game. Again, one of my very...
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now i'm listening yeah this is a metroidvania with some of the most fun and dynamic platforming i've ever seen fantastic combat uh mechanics the controls are so responsive it is absolutely punishingly clear that if you are messing up it is your fault and not some glitch in the game
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And it looks something like if Pixar and perhaps like a Tim Burton movie or something had a, had a love baby and sprinkled in some, some, some really great score, you know, it is, it is such a gorgeous game through and through. Like when I think of beautiful games, it is, Probably the most beautiful game I've ever played. And again, it's a game that should have a lot of broad appeal.
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purest form of a game it's the dream straight from the mind of a developer completely unfiltered as long as it's you know legal you know what's interesting ace i i'm curious about your feedback on this i feel are you familiar with a24 movies that yes yes okay
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The character design is fantastic. It would appeal to you whether you are somebody who is younger or older. Very, very little in the way of exposition. It's another game that you're sort of discovering as it comes. And man, the character design for the primary antagonist of this game and then the reveal about the intentions behind it is... So good. World-class storytelling. Beautiful game.
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Should be on everyone's list. It's been out for several years now. You can pick it up cheap. You could probably blitz through this game in 10 to 12 hours. Oh, wow. Very short. That's like if you wanted to blitz through it. It's probably more of a 20-hour game. Yeah, that sounds about right. But I would absolutely recommend it. Like...
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Anybody, anybody would enjoy playing this game if for nothing else than like Ace, what you and I were talking about. There's something just so pure about that Metroidvania dynamic where you, you know, you. anybody can figure out the core mechanics of how to play these things pretty easily. And it is, it is very easy to grasp.
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Yeah, that's funny. Not to segue a little bit, but Elden Ring is another great example of this, where... If I'm being honest, man, I hate Souls-like games. I hate them. I hate games that you have to grind and grit your teeth through. I don't want to feel sweaty when I'm getting through a boss battle. I don't want to die. Those things make me want to throw my console across the room. I hate it.
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But the story was so good and unique where, again, you're kind of discovering it as you're playing. Without a whole ton of exposition, without a whole ton of dialogue, and the dialogue that is there is open to interpretation. Man, that really makes a game for me, man. I love that games have the immersive capacity to be able to allow you to transport yourself into...
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other universes and take a break from your reality man and uh and ori is absolute both games but especially the second one is such a great representative example of of being able to do that it's like did you ever see um never ending story by any chance yes oh yes never ending story story
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greg timestamp this um yeah but like when i was playing orion the will of the wisps i felt like uh i felt like sebastian bastion whatever his name is in uh never ending story like reading a book where he's like oh man i'm in this dude i am in this with these guys I love it, man. So highly recommend.
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So they ended up rising to prominence and they're releasing a lot of movies now because the AAA movie titles have lost so much money over time. Like they've become stale and sort of repetitive and A24 started investing in these more like esoteric titles that have done really well on smaller budgets. And now a lot of titles, a lot of bigger movie companies are sort of following suit.
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It's a little bit of both. Aesthetically, it is very dark, and you are, in contrast, a very bright character, which was done intentionally. It was an intentional style choice.
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But if you were going through... A good example would be if you've ever been on a Disney dark ride, like the slow-moving dark rides where it's dark on the inside because they don't want you to see the scaffolding and the lighting apparatus and stuff. Yeah, you can't see where the magic is. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's dark intentionally, but gorgeous at the same time. Like the darkness.
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Oh, my God. This is such a good metaphor for life, honestly. But the darkness makes you appreciate the light.
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There's one. Yeah, there's one I really got to get into.
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no i i am excited i think they're in mid-development of a mean of the hollower yeah uh and uh we've been we've been talking to the devs and we are going to have them on our show soon here i'm very excited for that and i'm very excited to tell them all about profound success of their property that they're still you know willing to this is another thing i love about indie titles man is that like
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It is not some corporate, slow-moving structure. These guys, like Shovel Knight, man, they've had several games, and they've all popped off and been popular by any measure of success, and they're still stoked to talk about it. There's still so much passion in it.
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I think personally... I believe so.
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That's interesting. I love him to death, man. I think some of the most, there's something about knights, but yeah, like either Shovel Knight or Hollow Knight.
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Uh, yeah, yeah. I like them. Uh, but this, this is honestly like, I love the ocean and I, I've surfed for a while now and I wanted in another life would have been a marine biologist slash sea world employee. Josh. I'm so jealous. I got to, yeah, I got to swim with dolphins under very dubious circumstances in Mexico.
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Uh, but man, it was, it was awesome, dude. They're like water dogs, bro. But yeah, I love the ocean. Missed this game completely. Honestly, I would have never even heard of this game if it wasn't for this podcast.
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Well, right. It is crazy. And that is just representative of how many amazing games there are out there, man. And it's like, How do you even keep up?
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I am ready to take her home. You know, I feel a bit weird talking about this one because I don't think we've talked about it enough. But it's a little game. I'm going to not bury the lead here. Called Claire Obscure Expedition 33. Which, guys... I, I, I want to tell you, I did a little bit of reflection on this as I was playing it.
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I was probably, it took me 60 hours to get through the game and I still want to go back and play some more, but about 20 hours into the game, I was like, this might be the best game I've ever played. And I was really hyped for it. So it was, it would have been very easy to let me down. And, uh, man, I was like, you know, is this just recency bias?
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Is the serpent eating its own tail? Exactly. That's the Batman thing. You either die a hero or you live long enough to become the villain. Oh, no.
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You know, like there's a lot of really good games out there and maybe this is just a nostalgic thing for you. And I was like, no, man, I just played ghost of Tsushima, which is, you know, a lot of people would say that's among one of the better games out there.
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And, uh, you know, I, I really try to be pragmatic about this and like I'm playing it right now and I'm really emotionally invested in it right now, but is this really the best game that I've ever played? And, uh, 60 hours in my wife was out of town. I was literally playing this game for 18 to 20 hours a day. You guys know, I sleep too. You don't sleep. So that doesn't surprise me at all.
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I was playing this game 18 to 20 hours a day. Wow. And I was upset. at anything that i had to divert my attention i was i was i was upset at this podcast i was upset at my own biology like when i had to go pee because i drink a ridiculous amount of coffee when i when i when i had to go pee i was like upset at my biology i was like maybe i can just like uh like Maybe I can't.
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Now maybe I could create some sort of apparatus. So this will happen. Maybe I'll get a catheter. Like maybe those, like maybe those are things that I could get. I was like, dude, obsessed with this game. I beat it. And I'm like, Oh yeah. Like I can, I can't think of it. It is all consuming this game guys. It is an, Every respect of the word. It is a work of art.
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The over-the-top nature of this from a visual and audio style while maintaining such a Firm grip on human emotions is unbelievable. I have never experienced it in another game before, and I've got a high mark. We play a lot of games here, guys. This is a gaming podcast. We play a lot of games. It's very easy for us to get jaded.
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And, you know, I'm a 43 year old man at the time of this recording and I have a lot of interest. I got a lot of things that I could be doing with my time. And I can't think of anything in my life more valuable short of marrying my wife, which I have to throw in here in the odd chance that she listens to this. That has been a better use of my time than playing that freaking game, guys.
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I cannot give it a higher recommendation.
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Yeah, and it's tough, man. I fear overselling it. Like, oh, John seems to really like this game, and I feel like I'm setting a really high standard for people to be disappointed. It's not just y'all, though.
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Oh, my God. I've never seen so much redacted text in my life, man. It's like our... our indie channel is like straight out of Roswell, New Mexico. Like it's just completely redacted, redacted, redacted with all these spoiler things. But yeah, it's, it's a game that like, I don't want to share too much about the story. Like we did in the deep dive.
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Uh, it is a game that is best going into it, knowing as little as possible. Um, I will say that like Ryan, there's the, you know, I don't like souls like games. If you don't like turn-based combat, uh, It's probably not going to be your cup of tea. But if you have any tolerance at all for turn-based combat, it is the best turn-based combat that I've ever played in a game.
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And the story is the best. It is my favorite story that I've ever played in a game, man. Like, I... I almost, I don't cry very often. Like, I cried when my dog died, and I cried at the end of Edward Scissorhands, and I think that's it.
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Oh, that's a good one, too. That got me. I came close to tears several times, and man, dude, like, the ending of this game. Ugh. Bro, like, there's so many opportunities for them to have dropped the ball on this game. And, dude, up until the very last frame... It kept you engaged, and what a gut-dropping reveal at the end, man. It's so good. It is so good.
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Uh, so my number five, this is a hard list to you, man. I mean, I knew this would be hard for you. I was hoping there, there are so many, there's so many great, smaller, impactful games that could have easily been on this top five, but right out of the gates, one that sticks out to me was the first tales of iron. We had a chance to, uh, meet Jack. Who's one of the developers odd bug.
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Dude, so I beat Prince of Persia Lost Crown recently. It's an Ubisoft title. And when it was going through the credits, it was like, I don't know, 30 minutes worth of credits, right? It's just person after person after person after person that was involved in the production of this game. And I was like, that's a lot of people for a Metroidvania, man. And to compare that to...
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a game that is, I don't know, man, more epic in scale than just about any other game that I've
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played i mean it's huge ryan you you mentioned this but like there's a lot of opportunities for them like in the in the background in the environments and stuff where they could have whiffed it they could have like fogged it out or something yeah like right again right every little like side environment is just so perfectly realized in in like multiple layers of depth and scale too it is it's just amazing man nothing in this game is phoned in at all
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Yeah, I got it. But like Ryan said, you know, my wife and I, I eat a ridiculous, I drink a lot of coffee and I eat a ridiculous amount of cake because my wife is a wonderful baker. We watched this show called the British Bake Off. Most people have heard about it. And they oftentimes will have like guests on the show who will make something with peanut butter.
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And the British folk don't eat peanut butter like we do in the United States.
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Who doesn't like peanut butter?
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Yeah, unless you're allergic to it.
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Yeah, but there are people that don't, and they're not wrong. That's just their taste. So if turn-based combat turns you off, that is a pretty big part of this game, and it may not be for you. But if you have any tolerance for it whatsoever, it is the most shining example of a 10 out of 10 game that I've ever played.
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You could not have said any higher praise than that, I don't think.
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Such an awesome guy. Such a great interview. And such a great game. And the art style, the sort of Souls-like mechanics on a 2D, you know, really unique 2D aesthetic in that game. That game just really knocked it out of the park. The narrative was great. The kind of medieval rats and the thick black... Everything about it just really clicked with me, man.
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What can I say? Ace, you've talked about this a lot, and it's going to be really hard for me. I tried to play a couple of games this morning. I played Slay the Spire, which is low lift. I've been a Magic the Gathering player for a long time, and it's basically virtual Magic the Gathering.
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slay the spire underrated and cheap by the way great great mobile game great game to play if you're yeah i can't wait man uh but um uh i i tried to play a couple other like triple a titles this morning and it's just like like nothing is nothing is filling that same nothing's nothing satisfying me after playing expedition 33 So I might have to do Ender Lilies.
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Dive into the world of Ender Lilies or Ender Magnolia.
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You don't say. Can you tell me the name of this podcast?
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Is it very on the nose? I love it.
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And, you know, I'm glad to see that they've had such success with a dev team of, what was it, like five people or six people or something like that? It was real small because they don't even have an office, he said. They do everything remote.
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Do it with us. I know nothing about this game. You can still say the words.
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We've said that several times today, man. It's going to be a marathon.
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I think I'm going back in, man. Plug me into the machine. We're just going to lose one game forever.
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Yeah, their audio people, like, live in a different country. You know, it's, like, crazy, man. So to see the little guy be so successful on such a novel project concept it was awesome and i just loved playing that game
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I thought you were going to say something cool.
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We're asking a lot of people. What I really want for people, honestly, is I want an excuse to go to France. Oh, okay. I reached out to Sandfall, who's the developer of Claire Obscura, and needless to say, they're getting lots and lots and lots of money. They're probably pretty busy, John. Yeah.
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but i want to go i asked them if we could go we we've had great luck with uh with big with big devs like uh you know like bungie and other big larger you show them my costume do you show them what i was wearing no i actually wanted them to like us yeah i don't think yeah maybe don't do that um Oh, come on.
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Tag Sandfall in this episode on Instagram, on Facebook, on YouTube. Tag them in this. I want to go to France. Give me a reason to go to France.
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Yeah, Ace, I would be a little hesitant to name him amongst our ranks today. Just with his very, very lukewarm response to Claire Obscure. I don't know. I don't know. He might be a defector in the making.
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Hey, I'm putting content over there.
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Well, and one of your, actually several of mine and several of yours. I mean, like, when I'm looking at the remainder of my top five, like, man, the soundtrack stands out in all of them, and your list too, dude. That is something that seems to be ubiquitous in indie games. We brought it up before.
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Well, I don't think either of you are really off base. I think it is more. It is more about the intent when you're making the game. And it also honestly has to do with the budget. I think that when you have a small budget, it requires you to be very creative and selective with it.
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I think something that I've noticed with indie games, like Tales of Iron is a great representation of this, or Slay the Spire even, is that because there's such a limited budget... they have to lean into style to carry itself. And they're not worried about it being the most expansive or timely or anything. It's just more, is this a good piece of art? Is this a good track?
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Does this resonate with us? It might not be the most popular thing or the most current thing, but it means something to this game. The visual style carries a lot too. Yeah. uh, tales of iron. If you were to pick it up today, the game several years old, it looks like it's brand new. You know, like it plays, it looks and it plays like it's brand new.
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If you were to pick up like, I don't know, halo three or, or one of the older, like, uh, beat them up, uh, God of wars or whatever. They didn't age too well, man. You know, like, There's something about a small budget.
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This extends itself to movies too, but smaller budget things tend to last a bit longer and I think maybe have a bit more of a resonant impact, if not a bigger splash like some of the AAA titles.
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There's two great contenders so far. I mean, between Claire Obscura and Kingdom Come. Do we actually even consider Kingdom Come 2?
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the indie part of gaming here for them to have come up with such a creative new game mechanic. Like I don't, I can't think of any games before that, that had that exact, that I feel like it was one of the first to the VR scene too.
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What do you got at number four? Well, this is a game that, even though it's not my number one, I think this is one of the most broadly appealing games because it is perfect in so many respects. It is a game that you can play for a couple of minutes at a time. It's a game that you can play for a few hours at a time. It's a game that you can take with you anywhere you want to go.
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It's a game with virtually endless replayability and also gets to a point where it can be punishingly brutal. This is a game that many people out there know. It's one of the more successful indie games out there. And it is a little game called Hades. Oh, cool.
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Before my wife and I sold our business in 2022, we did a lot of traveling around the U.S., appearing at conferences and that kind of thing. And Hades was like a constant buddy of mine at airports and train stations and bus stations. It was always on my switch and always just a couple of clicks away.
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In what way did you not like him?
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Hello. Hello, everyone. Yeah. Josh, I still haven't recovered, man. I still I beat this game. I don't know. A week and change ago. And I'm still recovering from it. But I gotta tell you, the one little bit of reprieve I've got is the fact that I think this is probably the first double deep dive in video game pod...
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Well, I thought it was going to tie into Verso, Renoir.
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My initial impression was that there's some sort of time thing, and Renoir is older Gustav.
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And there's something about that where older Gustav, who has lived in this world, is trying to stop... Ultimately, killing younger Gustav is better than allowing him to live in whatever... That's kind of where my brain was going. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
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You know, I actually, I had the opposite opinion. I, I kind of was really growing on Gustav. If nothing, if for nothing else, then I really loved the interactions between him and Sophie, where it was like, clearly there's something here that failed, but there's like a lot of reminiscent love and, and, and stuff.
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And then when, when Sophie died, it was just brutal, you know, right for me, right out of the gate. And so I, uh, I had stake in Gustav that I didn't immediately have in Verso. Once Gustav died and at the end of Act 1, there was the scene where Mael, she witnesses Gustav being killed. And then there's the sort of chemistry, if you'd call it that, between her and Renoir.
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At that point, to me, it became the story of Mael and Renoir. And the other characters were supporting characters, including Verso.
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Yeah, well, I think they did a really good job of foreshadowing a lot of this stuff without really selling the farm. There is a line of dialogue early in Act 1 where they say the paintress almost looks sad. And I was like, there's something to that. And then even as you kind of get closer and closer to the monolith, she is not, like, physically positioned in a stance of power.
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She's, like, almost weeping. I love that.
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uh, obscure is, is certainly in the, in the top two candidates for game of the year so far. And with the amount of hype that's getting and with GTA six off the table, I am thrilled to be diving back into, uh, into this world with you guys tonight.
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So, yeah, I, I think Ryan, well, I think I'm more like you. I like to experience it as it's happening. If for nothing, I had this terrible experience with my wife who we went to Scotland a couple of years ago. And one day we were kind of having like a hangover recovery day. And we decided to get a bunch of like cheeses and cured meats and watch Braveheart, which he'd never seen.
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And I loved Braveheart growing up. Absolutely loved that movie. Put it on. And right when the, gosh, what's her name? The female protagonist at the beginning gives young William Wallace the flower.
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Sarah goes, oh, she's going to die. He's going to basically declare war on the English. She called out the whole thing. I was like, oh, man. Just totally ruined this movie. I want to be in the moment and experience it with the characters and not worry too much about what I think is going to happen. And honestly, man, some of my very favorite movies have an ambiguous tone to them, like
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uh, memento is one of my favorite movies. Yeah. And, and that's a movie where I think you learn a little more about it every time you watch it. And I could see this being that type of game. Also, the more you, if you were to play it again, two, three times, you would be able to just interpret the story just a little bit deeper.
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really i don't know man so did you did you use him very much john i started in a similar position where you were where i was almost like irritated that he came on board like i got i got so um my party was pretty much the girls for for like most of it where i my l
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more and more ended up becoming like my glass cannon where I'm like, Oh my gosh, this, she can hit hard, but she needs, she needs some protection. And Luna became, you know, she's a very versatile character and she ended up healing. And then she was also got the great elemental damage. And then Sial, uh, I loved her, um, her combat, uh, dynamic, um, her combat mechanic.
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So it ended up being mostly them, and then if I needed some light damage, I brought Verso in once in a while. But by the time Minoko came in, I was like, you know, I have to earn all of his skills separately, and then it's just kind of like a lottery system as far as when you'd be able to maximize on them. But towards the end game, he was a main. He was like he never left my party.
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He gets very strong. Yeah.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Yeah, they snuck that shooting in, that shooting dynamic in pretty cleverly. Like, did you get to some of the Patank, you know, the little, like, circle? Like, I remember, like, gosh, this thing is freaking hard to kill. And, like, what I didn't realize is, like, you shoot the orb and then the orb is kind of all over the place and they cast Dizzy on. Yeah, exactly.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Yeah, that's the order they recommended. Yeah, that's kind of what I did too.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
This is really where it went from being kind of a linear, pretty straightforward story about, you know, hopelessness and a grand antagonist and, you know, some supporting characters to a, oh, wow, this is a lot deeper than I thought.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Yeah. And I don't know if it's too early to say this, but, you know, that it ends up becoming like the story is about the cycle of grief, you know, like rather, rather than just like fighting some big world ending enemy, it's like this perpetual cycle of grief that you're, you're playing through and how the different parties, parties are affected by it and stuff, man. I just, dude, I'm like,
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
The DeSondre family.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Yeah. I actually put my thoughts and kind of summarized the story to this point because it took... I had to like... It's hard. Well, yeah.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Okay, so... So here's kind of the brief summary, all right? The DeSondra family, as Josh was saying, it's Renoir, who's the father, Aline, who's the mother, Clea, who is the sister, Verso, who's the brother, and Alicia, who also is Mael in the game. They possess the ability to create these immersive worlds through painting on a canvas.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
that are powered by their thoughts and their painting styles, and they bring things that are in their real life into the game, like Monoko and I can't remember the little totem's name, like Monoko's friend's name.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Nako, yeah, thank you. But they're, like, inspired by their dogs, like their pets in real life. And the gesturals are all, you know, paintbrushes because their paintings are so good. Oh!
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
That's crazy. Again, there's all these little seeds that get planted through the games that really pay off between Act 2 and Act 3. Anyway, so by projecting their consciousness into these canvases, they're able to kind of live inside these worlds as an escape. But the longer they stay in them, their health... they start to like kind of lose themselves.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
So Aline and Renoir, both artists, uh, like in the very literal sense, Verso is a musician and they kind of like to stay in them a little bit. Aline warns Renoir not to lose himself in the painted worlds. Their son Verso, uh, creates his own kind of realm and fills it with these mannequin gesturals and characters that are based on his childhood toys and pets. So like, uh, Eskia is like a toy.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
It's something that was based on a toy that he grew up with. This world is once this sort of joyful space that they shared, that Verso and Clea specifically shared together. However, when this tragedy struck and the fire happened... It kind of like consumes the family. Verso dies. Alicia is badly burned.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
And Aline, the mom who's kind of like shattered by this whole situation ends up refusing the fact that Verso, you know, you, you, you think about mothers all the time where they kind of like refuse to accept the family.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
death of the child and they go into this like endless sort of cycle of grief so she enters the canvas to escape from it and becomes the paintress to try as as she might to stave off the death of like an avatar of her son who she created who ends up being like gustav
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
And she uses her powers, which is like ends up being this chroma stuff, the stuff that ends up being currency in the game or whatever, to create Lumiere, which is the world modeled after Paris and repopulates it with painted versions of her family, including the recreated Verso Gustave.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
So Renoir, who is disturbed by Aline's obsession and declining health, Renoir, the husband, uh, and you know, he's basically lost his wife at this point. He comes into the canvas as a being called the curator who ends up initially being a helpful entity for you because he like levels up your weapons and helps you in this fight against the painters.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Cause ultimately he wants, he wants his wife back in the real world. determined and to you know and this sort of paintresses influence he creates these entities called the axons who are like uh they are similes of his family so there there are actually four axons one you just don't see on screen but there's four axons one for each member of the family that are there to destroy Lumiere, the city.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
But Aline, the mother, resists, causing this massive event called the Fracture, which splits Lumiere in two and eventually ends up imprisoning Renoir.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
yeah yeah okay i'll cut to the chase so humanity ends up blaming the paintress for all this stuff but in reality what the paintress is like trying to retain the world while renoir is actually trying to destroy the world and um the the the numbers that you see on the monolith where it's like one you know one year at a time is actually her putting all of her
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
effort into trying to hold off this destruction of the world she's trying to give these people like as much time as humanly possible to get over to their side of the fracture and figure out what's actually going on and stop Renoir we actually find out that Renoir is more or less immortal like you can't really do anything against the guy Wait, so what? Hold on.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
They're like frozen. Yeah. Really? Okay. Painting. Yeah. It's such a cool like scene actually. It's, uh, It's like a prologue actually between act two and act three.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Mile slash Alicia. Like you see her in the outside world and she comes into this art gallery and is looking at Clea and sorry, not Clea. Mamon and Renoir. Yeah. Just literally frozen staring into a painting. Really cool visual.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Yeah.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Oh, what? Yeah. And several of them are Verso.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Oh, okay.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
John, who did you choose? Guess. Guess. Mael.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I chose Mael as well. And I went back and replayed it and got Verso's ending as well, and I felt like I played the ending first that I wanted. You know, I... Man, there are two. Well, it is hard, but I knew I knew at that point kind of what the what the end result of either was going to be.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
One is if you side with Verso and the family has to come to terms with the fact that he's dead and they escape the painting and they try to patch up their tattered family. But the idea of Mael continuing the delusion was a much more appealing and sort of sadly poetic kind of situation for me. And there are two sounds in this game that I will remember for the rest of my life.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Number one is Renoir's cane. And number two is that very last beat of... where you get to look into Myles' eyes, and she has the paintress covering on her eyes with that discordant piano chord. Dude, when it happened, I literally felt my stomach drop like I was on a roller coaster or something. I was like... Bravo! You have done it. This is one of the best endings I've ever seen in a game ever.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
We've been getting lots of new supporters and lots of people, lots and lots of people coming into the Discord, man. And then, I mean, the efforts of the community have been extremely noteworthy to the point where we were recently, as of this recording, recognized by Spotify as being number 18 in their top podcast in the leisure category. Out of a million people.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
It was so good, man. So, so good.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Yeah, that's pretty much it. So Verso ends the painting. He has this point where he reconciles with the boy, you know, the boy without the face that you see throughout the thing. And he just kind of just says, you know, it's time to go. You know, it's time to go. It's time to end this. And he gommages out. And then it cuts to a scene where they are burying his memory, basically.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
They're letting go of Verso's memory.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
mael is quite sad they're all very clearly outside of the painting at this point so she's alicia which is all disfigured and can't talk and all this stuff yep and and so they kind of just have a touching moment as a family where they recognize you know there's been this sort of bitter tragedy and there's been a lot of fighting between the members but it all came out of grief but the the cycle of grief functionally ends in that it's a much more
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Out of a million podcasts, number 18. So that is pretty awesome, guys. Wow.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
The Hollywood type ending, I would say.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Yeah, but at the same time, they are all just painted. They may think that they're self-aware, but it's hard to – this is one of those existential things. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to like. Are they really sentient beings or are these like similes of sentient beings? Do they actually have a soul? Are they just really good programs doing what they're designed to do?
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Yeah.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Yeah. I would agree with that. I think it's going to be very difficult to, to pull this off adequately as it is in a movie. It's just so many layers. And then again, just such a big pivot between act two and act three. But I could also see the Watchmen, the Alan Moore comic, The Watchmen. That was once considered to be completely unfilmable.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I really liked the Zack Snyder version of that movie, but they made some changes to make it filmable, which purists were really against. But they made a really good story out of it. I could definitely see an adaptation of this story being made to be movie friendly, and I would be stoked to see it.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I know what's coming up. Right before this recording, Ace was like, I just got through the prologue. I wish I wasn't recording myself. I got emotionally wrecked.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Yeah, it was for me, for certain. So you mentioned that they alluded to it in the trailer, and I think they did, but still, when I saw it, I was like, whoa! Oh my god, like, immediate stakes raised, like, right off the bat. Like, these guys don't stand a chance, you know what I'm saying? It must be, it must, you know, it rings to me like, um...
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
in world war ii normandy like when they were storming the beach and it's like you've just got like all these troops and the boats heading towards the beach with an unknown future and as soon as they get let out let out they're just mowed down absolutely mowed down it's like How absolutely helpless and vulnerable we are. I don't know.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
I thought it was just such a brilliant and shocking way to get them into the world.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
like the ground that one of the most iconic sounds in video games already.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Not at this point, but something that I loved, and I guess we won't go into it too far, but there is a very hard pivot at the end of Act 2 with regards to the direction of the game. And when we were exploring Act 1 and Act 2, there were certain design choices that you go like, does that even really fit in this game? Where does this art direction come from?
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
And I was noticing that some in, in act one and two, and it sets up just a great set of spoilers for act three. But, you know, what I started to notice going into act one was certain consistent aesthetics that ended up leading to a big pay payoff that we'll get to in a moment. So like the, The, uh, the, the, the gesturals for instance, was one of them.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
And then the, um, similarities between some of the characters and their counterparts like Gustav and Renoir, for instance, I started picking up. I was like, that's that that's is Renoir, just an older Gustav, you know, there's like things that they were planting without going nuts in the exposition and blown it off. And, uh, I think they banked it very, very well for when they do the reveal.
Video Gamers Podcast
Breaking Down Expedition 33 – Full Spoiler Dive into Story, Bosses, and The Ending(s)? | TWIG | Gaming Podcast
Yeah, I loved it. It felt very much like Ned Stark dying at the end of Game of Thrones Season 1, where I was like, ah, nobody's safe.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
I used pull my finger to save my relationship
This one's about ordering a pizza and people are taking slices too fast. Another one bites the crust. Another one bites the crust. Another one bites the crust. Another one bites the crust.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
I used pull my finger to save my relationship
Ich habe ihn nur ausgesprochen. Ich habe viel mehr Zeit verbracht als ich. Ich wusste nicht, was du sagst. Ich war nur im Bett letzte Nacht und hatte einen Ball.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
I used pull my finger to save my relationship
I had some anxiety after that night.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
I used pull my finger to save my relationship
Yeah, dude, they're gonna shred. We're gonna have so much fun without you.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
eilise patton teaches us how to honey launder
Different but similar. So what is her, what does she stand?
Will & Rusty's Playdate
eilise patton teaches us how to honey launder
Such a different app though. I like that better.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
eilise patton teaches us how to honey launder
Yeah, oh, but I need to find the link. This guy rocks. This guy rocks. This guy rocks today.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
eilise patton teaches us how to honey launder
What's going to be your first drink? That's going to be good. You're going to get freaking hammered.